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jkauff
23rd November 2016, 20:58
After more testing with several SD movies, I've gone back to NNEDI3 128 from NGU-high. A large part of my collection is B&W SD, with widely varying source quality.

madshi is right that NGU works best with high-quality sources. My Blu-rays look great with NGU-medium (the most my GTX 1060 can manage for high bitrate sources).

Thank goodness for profiles!

AngelGraves13
23rd November 2016, 21:47
madshi, I'd probably rename NGU-low/medium/high to 1X/2X/3X so that people know that they're passes and not really lower quality.

I'm able to do NGU-low for chroma and doubling luma + chroma w/ Jinc downscaling on my 1080 GTX to 1440p. NGU-med causes my MAX (5s) stats to hit 47ms once in awhile, so it's unacceptable to use it.

ryrynz
23rd November 2016, 22:01
not assuming that people don't know what they talking about would be. you're making one wrong assumption after the other instead of conceding that your discussion partner may be as competent as you are and taking him by the word.


Without continuing this discussion too much, if you test then specify you've tested and and post a relevant screenshot to what was stated in the post. And just perhaps if told it's a driver problem with your system, you could believe it rather than focusing on how wrong I am.


the previous version I had was v375.63. before I posted here I did try all the driver versions from the nvidia archive beginning with v359.06 (1.12.2015) with no avail.


Unfortunate, I'd be surprised if all working versions had this issue though or perhaps it's something else related to the system.


your assumption is wrong again. I did put several hours into it before I decided to ask if someone else knew this problem. which did help.


Fair enough, your assumption was wrong also. And yes StinDaWg I know when to use that word, talk about a petty post.

Sp00kyFox
23rd November 2016, 22:59
Without continuing this discussion too much, if you test then specify you've tested and and post a relevant screenshot to what was stated in the post. And just perhaps if told it's a driver problem with your system, you could believe it rather than focusing on how wrong I am.
the screenshot in my initial post was relevant to the problem, that's why I posted it. I even explicitily stated that it is not a performance or heat problem, knowing that this will be the first thought of some people. and it's not a question of believe. I just already considered the idea that it might be a driver problem. maybe it is but then it is not something that is specific to a certain version and thanks to your information we know that this can't be the only causing factor since you're using the same driver version without this problem.

Unfortunate, I'd be surprised if all working versions had this issue though or perhaps it's something else related to the system.
well it must be then. perhaps it is the GPU and the factor is more specific than the overall architecture type.

Fair enough, your assumption was wrong also.
I had various theories about the problem that haven't worked out so far. I'm still interested to hear what 32bit player you were using though.

ryrynz
23rd November 2016, 23:31
the screenshot in my initial post was relevant to the problem, that's why I posted it. I even explicitily stated that it is not a performance or heat problem, knowing that this will be the first thought of some people.


Pays to have what you say and what you link match for reference in future, but that wasn't that big a deal.


I had various theories about the problem that haven't worked out so far. I'm still interested to hear what 32bit player you were using though.

It won't be related to the player. I used MPC-BE x86.
Given that this issue occurs with quite different systems in the same area (32 bit OpenCL) it might possibly not be a driver bug. This will not be easy to troubleshoot, I can't recall ever having visual corruption with NNEDI3.
Did you try what huhn suggested? Also did you try running the reset defaults batch file in the madVR directory? I've found this to fix the odd issue like this over the years.

Also, just for the hell of it test madVR 0.87.21 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR08721.zip) & 0.87.0 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR087.zip) which are the first revisions where NNEDI3 made an appearance in case any madVR code changes have affect on the output.

Kotik
23rd November 2016, 23:45
You are not alone. I've had the same problem since the day one when I started usind madVR+LAV with 3d movies. Movie is fine but subtitles are in wrong depth. I've also tried different subtitle engines, original BluRay discs etc. but with no luck. :(

Nice to know that i am not the only one having this issue.

steakhutzeee
24th November 2016, 00:11
I've this issue, only running Madvr.

Only when reproducing (not in pause) and mostly noticeable on dark background, i've this sort of "flickering" like barely visible translucent horizontal bars. Like a sort of "signal interference". This can't be captured on screenshot.

What could be?

Q-the-STORM
24th November 2016, 00:14
//nevermind...

YxP
24th November 2016, 00:25
Well NGU seems to be pretty damn awesome. I can use NGU-low for chroma AND both luma and chroma doubling with my AMD HD7850 GPU and the fan isn't even 100%. I know that at least luma doubling is working, because of the obvious quality change, but from what I quickly gathered from this thread, this might not be how it is supposed to be? Should my setup be struggling? OSD seems to be working. Anyways, I'm not using either chroma or chroma doubling NGU other than for testing purposes. However, bilateral-NGU could be interesting, if it's within reasonable performance requirements.

On a personal note, I'm very happy to see NGU to land, since this is probably the first time that even my friends, who don't normally care for picture quality, actually noticed that things on the screen changed when I switched from super-xbr 100 to NGU-low. Can't give higher praise to madshi than that.

@leeperry Looks like you still have your 7850 and 13-series drivers? Could you report some numbers for comparison? I'm on the latest 64bit crimson. Same card.

@ryrynz You saw it necessary to tell me that big screens don't matter, only the distance from the screen. You do have some attitude and nobody is being too much of a dick about it. Let's all be friends, shall we?

ryrynz
24th November 2016, 00:29
@ryrynz You saw it necessary to tell me that big screens don't matter, only the distance from the screen. You do have some attitude and nobody is being too much of a dick about it. Let's all be friends, shall we?

Here I'm looking at a 24" screen I'm about 1 1/2 feet away from it.
My 65" TV is about 2 1/2 meters away, my 24" screen encompasses more of my vision than the 65" TV does and I can resolve more detail too.
This isn't attitude it's simple science mate.

YxP
24th November 2016, 00:34
Here I'm looking at a 24" screen I'm about 1 1/2 feet away from it.
My 65" TV is about 2 1/2 meters away, my 24" screen encompasses more of my vision than the 65" TV does and I can resolve more detail too.
This isn't attitude it's simple science mate.

Don't you think anyone in the world would understand that? And especially the people on this forum?

ryrynz
24th November 2016, 00:36
Don't you think anyone in the world would understand that? And especially the people on this forum?

Pretty easy to see this for yourself. But anyway.. keep to madVR topic :P

Georgel
24th November 2016, 00:59
Someone please sticky this!!!!!

DO NOT install SVP on Pascal GPUs based setups!!!!!!!

I made the ugly mistake of trying to use SVP on an 1080, madVR + mpcHC setup. That thing broke my drivers, I alost had to reinstall windows. After uninstalling it, madVR and MPC HC kept crashing, even reinstalling them, erasing all registry entries did not fix it.

Keep in mind, SVP breaks the Nvidia driver entirely!

On NGU, I don't use it until the coil whine will maybe get a fix. I'm scared of why no game and nothing else causes coil whine, but madVR w/ NGU does, so I'll just use it after this gets solved...

Sp00kyFox
24th November 2016, 01:07
It won't be related to the player. I used MPC-BE x86.
I was curious. but you're right, just tried the stable and the beta. no luck there. I think we can exclude the player as a factor.

Did you try what huhn suggested? Also did you try running the reset defaults batch file in the madVR directory? I've found this to fix the odd issue like this over the years.
yes. I also did a new clean installation of madVR and tried changing various settings.

Also, just for the hell of it test madVR 0.87.21 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR08721.zip) & 0.87.0 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR087.zip) which are the first revisions where NNEDI3 made an appearance in case any madVR code changes have affect on the output.
weird. with these versions I can tell madVR to use NNEDI but it just refuses to do so. the picture is not affected at all (just plain image upscaling) and in the OSD NNEDI isn't mentioned.

I reinstalled the current version and used GPU-Z to see if there is something noticeable with the sensor data. but all is fine, no value reaches the limit when using NNEDI.

ryrynz
24th November 2016, 01:13
weird. with these versions I can tell madVR to use NNEDI but it just refuses to do so. the picture is not affected at all (just plain image upscaling) and in the OSD NNEDI isn't mentioned.


Try 0.88.10 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR08810.zip) & 0.88.11 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR08811.zip)

plasma
24th November 2016, 01:19
Someone please sticky this!!!!!

DO NOT install SVP on Pascal GPUs based setups!!!!!!!

I made the ugly mistake of trying to use SVP on an 1080, madVR + mpcHC setup. That thing broke my drivers, I alost had to reinstall windows. After uninstalling it, madVR and MPC HC kept crashing, even reinstalling them, erasing all registry entries did not fix it.

Keep in mind, SVP breaks the Nvidia driver entirely!

On NGU, I don't use it until the coil whine will maybe get a fix. I'm scared of why no game and nothing else causes coil whine, but madVR w/ NGU does, so I'll just use it after this gets solved...

Maybe you are only one but I had no problems with my 1060 +svp+mdvr+mpc-hc. I could not find anything on the internet indicating that there is a problem with pascal gpus

Scyna
24th November 2016, 01:30
Also, just for the hell of it test madVR 0.87.21 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR08721.zip) & 0.87.0 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR087.zip) which are the first revisions where NNEDI3 made an appearance in case any madVR code changes have affect on the output.

Hmm madvr 0.87.21 works fine for me. I swap back to the latest madvr and back to nnedi3 not working. So something with newer Madvr broke nnedi3?

Edit: nm 0.87.21 nnedi3 doesn't work. it just defaults to jinc if you turn on neddi3.

Sparktank
24th November 2016, 01:47
Keep in mind, SVP breaks the Nvidia driver entirely!


what?

ryrynz
24th November 2016, 01:47
It just defaults to jinc if you turn on neddi3.

Yeah those earlier versions were pretty broken, try the other two I posted, I'm not sure if this has ever worked for your setups but it's worth a shot..

Scyna
24th November 2016, 01:59
Yeah those earlier versions were pretty broken, try the other two I posted, I'm not sure if this has ever worked for your setups but it's worth a shot..

yea same thing happens with both those versions.

Scyna
24th November 2016, 02:39
So after testing with ryrynz. It was Nvidia cuvid the culprit when you have it enabled in LAV video.

ryrynz
24th November 2016, 02:41
I've confirmed this on my 960 as well with it falling back to Jinc, it only happens when using 32 bit playback. Nice one Scyna.

khanmein
24th November 2016, 03:38
Someone please sticky this!!!!!

DO NOT install SVP on Pascal GPUs based setups!!!!!!!

I made the ugly mistake of trying to use SVP on an 1080, madVR + mpcHC setup. That thing broke my drivers, I alost had to reinstall windows. After uninstalling it, madVR and MPC HC kept crashing, even reinstalling them, erasing all registry entries did not fix it.

Keep in mind, SVP breaks the Nvidia driver entirely!

On NGU, I don't use it until the coil whine will maybe get a fix. I'm scared of why no game and nothing else causes coil whine, but madVR w/ NGU does, so I'll just use it after this gets solved...

try use NGU-low no coil whine on my cheap GTX 970 modded with 2 Noctua NF-F12 PWM.

Warner306
24th November 2016, 03:46
I finally had a chance to watch some crappy streaming content on Kodi. Can't say enough good things about NGU. SD looks HD. Who cares if it's pirated content.

ryrynz
24th November 2016, 03:47
On NGU, I don't use it until the coil whine will maybe get a fix. I'm scared of why no game and nothing else causes coil whine, but madVR w/ NGU does, so I'll just use it after this gets solved...

It's not something that can be fixed, it's related to the stress placed on the components and the vibration they create as a result of it, it's not overloading anything it's just not ideal design.
As a result you either give your card possibly more performance headroom (overclock) and see if that changes anything or just use another option that generates less stress. As advised above try the low setting.

Who cares if it's pirated content.

:scared:

Scyna
24th November 2016, 04:59
I remember my old HD 5850 fan would make noise and I would take it apart and put wd40 and it would stay fine for a couple of months. I'm not sure if coil whine is the same problem I had though.

Backflash
24th November 2016, 07:30
On NGU, I don't use it until the coil whine will maybe get a fix. I'm scared of why no game and nothing else causes coil whine, but madVR w/ NGU does, so I'll just use it after this gets solved...


do you have dx11 enabled with v-sync?
how high are your queues?
Also try software decoding

On Sapphire 390 Nitro I actually see lower temps and twice as lower loads than NNDI3 even at 16. Also coil whine is usually brand disease Asus messes up every second generation, Gigabyte, EVGA on lower end models has it almost every time they cheap out on inductors(EVGA cheaped out on vrm several cards blew up).
It won't get solved, it is your videocard problem you probably do not play many demanding games to notice.

markanini
24th November 2016, 07:47
An issue like coil whine must be why I'm not compelled to buy expensive GPUs, that and unnecessarily loud cooling systems. I can only assume people are protective of their investment to blame MadVR on coil whine.

Oguignant
24th November 2016, 09:33
Hi from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

These are my statistics with the new version of madvr. I hope they are of help.

2k to 4k upscaling

(hardware info: Core i7 6820HK, 32GB DDR4-3000Mhz, SSD 960 Pro, GIGABYTE NVIDIA GTX 1080 GAMING G1 OC GPU 2150Mhz/Mem 5622Mhz)

Guardians.of.the.Galaxy.2014.1080p.BluRay.REMUX.DTS-HD.MA.7.1.mkv (uncompressed)

File size: 31.2 GiB
Duration: 2 h 0 min
Overall bit rate mode: Variable
Overall bit rate: 37.0 Mb/s
Width: 1 920 pixels
Height: 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate mode: Constant
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space: YUV
Chroma subsampling: 4:2:0

chroma upscaling NGU High
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NGU High
image upscaling Jinc
Average 31,27 ms
Max 32,73 ms

chroma upscaling NGU Med
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NGU Med
image upscaling Jinc
Average 14,10 ms
Max 15,17 ms

chroma upscaling NNEDI3 64
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NNEDI3 128
image upscaling Jinc
Average 29,51 ms
Max 33,49 ms

chroma upscaling NNEDI3 64
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NNEDI3 64
image upscaling Jinc
Average 20,16 ms
Max 23,76 ms

chroma upscaling NNEDI3 64
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NGU high
image upscaling Jinc
Average 28,20 ms
Max 30,26 ms

chroma upscaling NGU high
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NNEDI3 128
image upscaling Jinc
Average 32,57 ms
Max 34,43 ms

chroma upscaling NGU med
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NNEDI3 128
image upscaling Jinc
Average 26,64 ms
Max 29,80 ms

all whitout any upscaling refinement...

Does anyone recommend me best settings for 2k to 4k upscaling of REMUX mkv files?

Thks!

Georgel
24th November 2016, 09:59
Maybe you are only one but I had no problems with my 1060 +svp+mdvr+mpc-hc. I could not find anything on the internet indicating that there is a problem with pascal gpus

Dig deeper, SVP team advises clearly to NOT install SVP with recent Nvidia drivers, they break the drivers, performance goes a lot down for the entire card.

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2671

It's something that I found on an easy search after I had a few black screens, but it gets worse, it can cause GPU to disconnect and eventually break down - this is known by SVP team and has been for a while, but they did NOT fix it yet.

what?

See above, SVP is not to be used with Nvidia drivers.

It's not something that can be fixed, it's related to the stress placed on the components and the vibration they create as a result of it, it's not overloading anything it's just not ideal design.
As a result you either give your card possibly more performance headroom (overclock) and see if that changes anything or just use another option that generates less stress. As advised above try the low setting.



:scared:

Actually, this is one of the problems, I can play most games at super ultra mega resolutions and fps and quality settings, and there is no coil whine. I can play videos at NNEDI 256 and there is no coil whine. NGU causes coil whine even at low for me, and I've no idea why... I'm just scared of coil whine to be honest.

I'm going to be fair, NGU does not stress the GPU too much, it's only the coil whine that scares me. The algorithm is quite efficient actually.

I noticed a similar effect when applying very heavy FX on very large images (>8000x8000 pixels) in photoshop...

Will keep testing.

do you have dx11 enabled with v-sync?
how high are your queues?
Also try software decoding

On Sapphire 390 Nitro I actually see lower temps and twice as lower loads than NNDI3 even at 16. Also coil whine is usually brand disease Asus messes up every second generation, Gigabyte, EVGA on lower end models has it almost every time they cheap out on inductors(EVGA cheaped out on vrm several cards blew up).
It won't get solved, it is your videocard problem you probably do not play many demanding games to notice.


Let's see, I will try playing with vSync and GSync - I usually have both turned off since they're a pain to see, maybe fast Vsync could fix the problem....

Queues are max possible, I think I have not tried software decoding yet, just to keep presenting times as low as possible.

An issue like coil whine must be why I'm not compelled to buy expensive GPUs, that and unnecessarily loud cooling systems. I can only assume people are protective of their investment to blame MadVR on coil whine.

It's only NGU and some really specific tasks that cause coil whine... A GPU is a tool made to be used to achieve something, if it fails achieveing it's purpose, it's not worth the bother. But at this rate, I don't want destroy-ing the GPU if I can avoid it. If only a specific task stresses the GPU in the way necessary to create coil whine, maybe that specific task is best to be avoided. Something like I fear it can break just a tiny piece on the GPU while it does not stress the GPU very bad...

Sp00kyFox
24th November 2016, 10:15
Try 0.88.10 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR08810.zip) & 0.88.11 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/madVR08811.zip)
same behavior. NNEDI is ignored and it only uses the normal image upscaler.

Backflash
24th November 2016, 10:19
Georgel lower queues to default 8, this might be why GPU is over spinning. It doesn't do anything performance wise anyway.

Coil whine is not dangerous, it's just annoying. Simply what happens is vibration of inductor it doesn't increase the temperature or lowers GPU life.

ryrynz
24th November 2016, 10:20
same behavior. NNEDI is ignored and it only uses the normal image upscaler.
Switch from CUVID to DXVA2 CB In LAV.

pose
24th November 2016, 10:34
Dig deeper, SVP team advises clearly to NOT install SVP with recent Nvidia drivers, they break the drivers, performance goes a lot down for the entire card.

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2671
There is literally nothing like what youre talking about in that old thread. You are clearly the only one having this problem. Probably because u f**ked up some settings again....

Georgel
24th November 2016, 10:40
There is literally nothing like what youre talking about in that old thread. You are clearly the only one having this problem. Probably because u f**ked up some settings again....

1st question: What do you mean by again?

2nd question: What's up with the aggressiveness?

Georgel
24th November 2016, 10:42
Georgel lower queues to default 8, this might be why GPU is over spinning. It doesn't do anything performance wise anyway.

Coil whine is not dangerous, it's just annoying. Simply what happens is vibration of inductor it doesn't increase the temperature or lowers GPU life.

I will try to see what happens!

When I read that the coil whine is caused by the physical vibrations of a certain component, I feared that it might mean the component would degrade faster..

pose
24th November 2016, 10:43
1st question: What do you mean by again?
From what ive seen you always use some weird settings that make no sense at all.

2nd question: What's up with the aggressiveness?
What triggered you? Im not aggressive.

Georgel
24th November 2016, 10:51
From what ive seen you always use some weird settings that make no sense at all.


What triggered you? Im not aggressive.

I just posted a friendly advice that should be posted everywhere.

SVP will break Nvidia drivers and only fresh reinstall of drivers will fix it. This is what happened to me and could happen to anyone. It is a friendly advice, no need to attack me, if it works for you and you're 100% sure it does, good, but it might break some people's setup and it's hard to fix.

pose
24th November 2016, 11:05
SVP will break Nvidia drivers and only fresh reinstall of drivers will fix it. .
Thats like... your opinion. You act like its a fact while there is nothing on the internet to support your claim. If someone disagrees with you it doesnt mean that they're attacking you, lul. Friendly advice: dont change setting you're not sure/know nothing about. Use DDU in safe mode to delete your old video driver if you want to reinstall or update it.

markanini
24th November 2016, 11:31
I will try to see what happens!

When I read that the coil whine is caused by the physical vibrations of a certain component, I feared that it might mean the component would degrade faster..

How long do you plan to keep it?

Georgel
24th November 2016, 11:53
Thats like... your opinion. You act like its a fact while there is nothing on the internet to support your claim. If someone disagrees with you it doesnt mean that they're attacking you, lul. Friendly advice: dont change setting you're not sure/know nothing about. Use DDU in safe mode to delete your old video driver if you want to reinstall or update it.

Thanks, but yes, I know how to use DDU, and I;m not exactly an un experienced user...

At the same time, I know for a fact that SVP broke my Nvidia drivers a few times, tried configuring it, still happens.

What happens is a video plays, but it crashes at random times. IT keeps on crashing even after uninstalling SVP.

This is a known problem over at SVP, whether you can find it or not is a matter of what you searched for. This happened to me on multiple configurations with multiple settings even on default settings(GTX 960M, GTX 1080), with or without any OC.

How long do you plan to keep it?

The card?

As long as possible, it does it's job just fine. 2-3 years would be great, maybe 4 if I won't need to push it more..

I'm not even close as enthused about Skylake 6700K tho..

Sp00kyFox
24th November 2016, 11:56
Switch from CUVID to DXVA2 CB In LAV.
I wasn't using CUVID. DXVA2 CB is my standard setting.

hannes69
24th November 2016, 13:25
I will try to see what happens!

When I read that the coil whine is caused by the physical vibrations of a certain component, I feared that it might mean the component would degrade faster..

Simply no. Nothing is degrading faster. Coil whine means there is a quality issue on the manufacturers side who decided to choose components which are cheap and more prone to such issues. Coil whine is not affecting performance, heat, stability, function and so on. It is simply going on your nerves when too loud. It can be dependant on the load (amount of load and sort of load) as seen here. NGU probably creates a sort of load that triggers this phenomenon easier than other algorithms. Sounds like esoteric but can be physically possible.
I have a R7 250 Radeon card, can use NGU low for my use case (720p files) and have NO coil whine (XFX card).
If I would have coil whine I would try to fix it as mentioned earlier in this thread.

Sparktank
24th November 2016, 14:07
Dig deeper, SVP team advises clearly to NOT install SVP with recent Nvidia drivers, they break the drivers, performance goes a lot down for the entire card.

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2671

It's something that I found on an easy search after I had a few black screens, but it gets worse, it can cause GPU to disconnect and eventually break down - this is known by SVP team and has been for a while, but they did NOT fix it yet.

I've not ever had that issue after upgrading to Win10.
For every update to NVidia, I've always chosen the Clean Install and rebooted to ensure things go smoothly.

I don't use Cuvid, not for a long time.
It's always been set to DXVA2 CB.

With current driver for NVidia on my GTX 750ti, I can use NGU-low on 1080p sources and SVP without frame drops.
The minute I try NGU-med, I get drops.
Maybe if I disable the Artifact Removal settings, I can use NGU-med.

Uoppi
24th November 2016, 15:06
Does "NGU = Jinc" etc. in the OSD mean madvr is reverting to Jinc instead of using NGU (for whatever reason)?

pirlouy
24th November 2016, 15:22
This one thread for everything is boring to read, that's why there are some aggressive comments. It's difficult to find useful information/question between repetitive old questions from new/less advanced people or specific content from very advanced users.

I find this harder to read for everyone including Madshi, but he still prefers this so bad luck for guys like me.
I think I made a made a post with interesting (I think) stats which can allows users to verify if normal behavior or not. Already 10 pages away. Won't do this again. :D

markanini
24th November 2016, 15:37
Simply no. Nothing is degrading faster. Coil whine means there is a quality issue on the manufacturers side who decided to choose components which are cheap and more prone to such issues. Coil whine is not affecting performance, heat, stability, function and so on. It is simply going on your nerves when too loud. It can be dependant on the load (amount of load and sort of load) as seen here. NGU probably creates a sort of load that triggers this phenomenon easier than other algorithms. Sounds like esoteric but can be physically possible.
I have a R7 250 Radeon card, can use NGU low for my use case (720p files) and have NO coil whine (XFX card).
If I would have coil whine I would try to fix it as mentioned earlier in this thread.

Nice to hear from someone that understands electronics. I suspected these fears of coil whine were overblown. Especially now considering the fairly short practical lifespan of a graphics card.

Sp00kyFox
24th November 2016, 17:24
I think I made a made a post with interesting (I think) stats which can allows users to verify if normal behavior or not. Already 10 pages away. Won't do this again. :D
don't let this big thread discourage you. I'm pretty sure based on madshis posts that he reads everything. and many other users do also, it's just that somtimes there isn't anything to add or say to a post, even if it shares interesting information.

ROKUGAN
24th November 2016, 18:40
Someone please sticky this!!!!!

DO NOT install SVP on Pascal GPUs based setups!!!!!!!

I made the ugly mistake of trying to use SVP on an 1080, madVR + mpcHC setup. That thing broke my drivers, I alost had to reinstall windows. After uninstalling it, madVR and MPC HC kept crashing, even reinstalling them, erasing all registry entries did not fix it.

Keep in mind, SVP breaks the Nvidia driver entirely!

On NGU, I don't use it until the coil whine will maybe get a fix. I'm scared of why no game and nothing else causes coil whine, but madVR w/ NGU does, so I'll just use it after this gets solved...

I have exactly that setup GTX 1080 + madVR + mpcHC/mpcBE + SVP4 and is working flawlessly :D
Both on 32&64 bits setups btw.

Q-the-STORM
24th November 2016, 20:37
Does "NGU = Jinc" etc. in the OSD mean madvr is reverting to Jinc instead of using NGU (for whatever reason)?

Do you mean "NGU > Jinc" ?
because that simply means you upscale to more than double resolution...
like a 720p video on a 2160p screen, you first double to 1440p with NGU and then upscale to 2160p with Jinc...