madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[Manni]

Thank you, sir. For some reason I thought I was replying to the driver thread. In there it's claimed they're passing correct metadata and a few other awesome fixes for us. This could be our new benchmark driver finally.

I replied there too, but as we mentioned it here and as it's on topic, I'm happy to report that 430.39 seems to fix the HDFR passthrough bug and seems to be able to switch to HDR in 8bits as well.

I've only checked with my LG 4K monitor, I'll do more tests tonight with the JVC and I'll report back if there is anything worthy of interest.

[jorsan]

For a Nvidia 2070 gpu, where can I find only the drivers without the gforce experience app, just the driver?. Thanks in advance

[Klaus1189]

currently no Nvidia card here, but if I remember correctly, do a custom install and deselect that feature.

[brazen1]

Keep in mind 430.39 no longer offers 3D vision.

[FDisk80]

Keep in mind 430.39 no longer offers 3D vision.

Yea, why would the also remove the driver for the 3D Blu-ray playback. Didn't really care about 3D gaming but 3D movies I still like to watch once in a while. :mad:

Any solution for this? Can someone maybe rip the latest driver for the 3D Blu-ray support so we can install it as a stand alone?

[brazen1]

See my post here https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1872531#post1872531 or here https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=229692&pid=2848560#pid2848560

[SamuriHL]

For a Nvidia 2070 gpu, where can I find only the drivers without the gforce experience app, just the driver?. Thanks in advance

Do an advanced install and you can unselect it. I do the same thing...driver only.

[FDisk80]

See my post here https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1872531#post1872531 or here https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=229692&pid=2848560#pid2848560

So no solution? We are stuck with old drivers forever if we want to ever watch a 3D movie again? Seriously WTH NVIDIA.

There must be a way to override this. :confused:

[nevcairiel]

You should give feedback to NVIDIA, maybe its not entirely intentional that 3D movie playback is broken without the 3D Vision components - since 3D Vision is what they really wanted to discontinue, not HDMI 3D.

Pro-tip to make your feedback get actually read: Stay classy and professional. :)

[brazen1]

Discontinued Support
•3D Vision
•Beginning with Release 430, the NVIDIA driver no longer supports the following 3D Vision technologies and features:
•NVIDIA 3D Stereoscopic Driver, including the 3D Vision driver and USB (emitter) driver
•NVAPI-based stereo APIs for Direct3D applications.

It appears they want to discontinue entire 3D support and not just the one aspect of it, 3D Vision. You really can't blame them. Too many people complained about 3D and they got their wish. Thank them.

Here is where you can complain to nVidia if you think it's going to change anything https://surveys.nvidia.com/index.jsp?pi=6e7ea6bb4a02641fa8f07694a40f8ac6

[dzonibegood]

Hey guys, I need a bit of assistance to this puzzle. Now i've been using VLC3.0.x player for HDR playback (sony XF90 is the display) and it is very comparable but i was suggested by several people that madVR is more precise for HDR playback.
Now I have freshly installed MPC and potplayer just for madVR and for some reason on both players when i select madVR renderer and when i compare it with the VLC, players with madVR have this very feint green tint color to it. Do i have to select something on the madVR to get the best color reproduction that's identical to the blu ray players?

So far VLC had the most colorful and precise reproduction to the players with madVR. I'm asking because surely i'm using madVR wrong as it has been suggested by everyone so far that madVR is the closest to the real thing.



All the movies are blu ray rips in a remux and they aren't altered and compressed versions but uncompressed both video and audio.


Hey guys! Managed to get some time to fiddle around but for some apparent reason the MPC is freezing when i'm playing the video in fullscreen on my TV with madVR. Non full screen keeps playing without freezing. Image will just freeze and i can't do anything else with the MPC but restart it and in doing so it crashes beforehand. It is MPC-HC.1.7.13. Version. The latest one as well as madVR is the latest.

IS there maybe something I have to turn on? Why is it freezing with HDR display? While on my PC monitor it is playing with madVR as output renderer just fine.

[madjock]

IS there maybe something I have to turn on? Why is it freezing with HDR display? While on my PC monitor it is playing with madVR as output renderer just fine.

Maybe if you stopped posting the same questions and answered people who are trying to help ?

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1872369#post1872369

[dzonibegood]

Maybe if you stopped posting the same questions and answered people who are trying to help ?

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1872369#post1872369

If you can notice, i did not post the same question but i just QUOTED the question because it is 3 or 4 pages jump so that people who answered me know who the heck i am so that they don't have to dig and look to know what i asked exactly as i didn't have time to fiddle at that time.

Now i have time to fiddle and i'm having difficulties making MPC HC work with madVR and lav filters have been added as well as preferred. I want to take those screenshots but as you can see i am having difficulties in doing so with madVR.

[madjock]

The OSD was just one of the questions, what about your hardware and driver versions etc, ther is no point in asking again or editing your post after, you could have quoted the question to you and then typed in some helpful information.

[dzonibegood]

The OSD was just one of the questions, what about your hardware and driver versions etc, ther is no point in asking again or editing your post after, you could have quoted the question to you and then typed in some helpful information.

All of that is pointless to answer currently as i'm having the basic setup. Why are you arguing with me? Are you going to help me diagnose this and setup or are you just going to waste both of our times?

[FDisk80]

Discontinued Support
•3D Vision
•Beginning with Release 430, the NVIDIA driver no longer supports the following 3D Vision technologies and features:
•NVIDIA 3D Stereoscopic Driver, including the 3D Vision driver and USB (emitter) driver
•NVAPI-based stereo APIs for Direct3D applications.

It appears they want to discontinue entire 3D support and not just the one aspect of it, 3D Vision. You really can't blame them. Too many people complained about 3D and they got their wish. Thank them.

Here is where you can complain to nVidia if you think it's going to change anything https://surveys.nvidia.com/index.jsp?pi=6e7ea6bb4a02641fa8f07694a40f8ac6

I think at this point it's pointless to even complain to nVidia. We will need to cook something of our own to bring back 3D Blu-ray support that overrides the driver check and doesn't give the driver mismatch error.

After extracting the latest working 3D Vision installer it looks like the check is being done by the installer when the "NvStWiz.exe" is initiated.
You can see the driver is being installed anyway but it just cant add the 3D Vision options in the latest Control Panel version when the "NvStWiz.exe" is being run.

That stupid Control Panel wizard is not even needed, somehow there must be a way to enable it so it would kick in anyway.
madVR had a registry file that did just that, but in this case it doesn't work. Still something is missing for the driver to actually kick in and switch the HDMI mode to 3D.

[huhn]

someone should first confirm that the test is all you need and the presentation pipe isn't removed first.

while i can totally understand why they stop supporting 3d i have no real understand why as far as i can see they disable is completely.

[mclingo]

worse case scenario you could rip to SBS and not use MVC 3D, not ideal as you'll get resolution loss but better than nothing, that is if you are a gamer and need to be on latest drivers, if not just stay on an old version, obviously.

[jcwc]

@jcwc, you probably need the Universal CRT. You can get that by installing these VCRedist:
https://download.microsoft.com/download/9/3/F/93FCF1E7-E6A4-478B-96E7-D4B285925B00/vc_redist.x86.exe
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=746571

Thanks for the suggestion.

I did install the VCRedist 2017, but the problem still persists.

[clsid]

... It is MPC-HC.1.7.13 version. The latest one ...
Latest version is 1.8.6 (https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases)

[Q-the-STORM]

worse case scenario you could rip to SBS and not use MVC 3D, not ideal as you'll get resolution loss but better than nothing, that is if you are a gamer and need to be on latest drivers, if not just stay on an old version, obviously.

No need to reencode, you can play MCV 3D in SBS/OU.

And if you have a 2160p TV, there shouldn't be any resolution loss either.

[huhn]

i haven't seen a dingle UHD device that support SBS or TB when set to UHD.

it's an obvious thing to support but 3D is that dead.

[jorsan]

Do an advanced install and you can unselect it. I do the same thing...driver only.

Thanks samuriHL, will do that.

[katodevin]

New Nvidia Drivers. Changes and Fixed Issues in Version 430.39:
Fixed Issues in this Release
 [madVR][HDR]: MadVR is not rendering videos in HDR mode using MPC player.
[200505657]
 [Surround][G-SYNC][Pascal GPU]: G-SYNC does not engage when using Surround
resolution. [200505986]
 Random desktop flicker occurs on some multi-display PCs [2453059]
 Memory leaks occur when launching games. [2551904]

Can anyone verify if this fixes the Turing bug with stuttery playback?

[hotripper]

@hotripper
just stick to power saving. it not changing the power that's send over HDMI and it does other more complicated things... and it will not lower your general performance it just trys to waste less power.
and you should leave pre rendered frames to application control madVR by default uses 3 or 8 by default depending on the rendering surface and we still can't see your image.

Cant do that, Power saver eventually lags very bad. And using 1 shader max results in having to set -300ms delay.

But I think I have found the culprit. So when using madvr with mpc-hc I set LAV to D3D11 native. But I noticed when I use EVR LAV settings are different.

So does anyone know if Madvr and EVR carry their own unique settings for LAV?

And as a side note why do I not receive email notifications from my subscribed threads on this forum? I set all to "instant"

[huhn]

EVR doesn't support d3d11 native so it will use a fall back.

and you are using more shader then you believe far more.
AV shouldn't go async audio is the master clock so madVR has to adapt.

[toki]

Can anyone verify if this fixes the Turing bug with stuttery playback?It's fixed it over here. I'm on a 1660ti and am pretty pleased with this new driver so far.

[hotripper]

EVR doesn't support d3d11 native so it will use a fall back.

and you are using more shader then you believe far more.
AV shouldn't go async audio is the master clock so madVR has to adapt.

I just dont know what is wrong with the 2070, tried two different cards same result. Put the 970 back in and no stuttering no matter which settings I use.

I change something in settings and it works, then doesnt. Then it will just work on its own. Totally random.

Frustrated.

[x7007]

They fixed the Madvr HDR playing, now it doesn't switching like crazy in Potplayer .

What should we do with the 3D situation ? I am using PowerDVD 3D blu rays, what am I'm supposed to do now ?

[FDisk80]

What should we do with the 3D situation ? I am using PowerDVD 3D blu rays, what am I'm supposed to do now ?

Yea, in the same boat. Maybe someone can look in to the "NvStWiz.exe" compatibility issue with future drivers. The installation can be extracted from previous driver but does a version check and throws an error at you.

You can find the latest 3DVision drivers in this location:
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\Display.3DVision.{......................................}

Inside that folder there is "3DVision.exe" file that you can right click and extract with WinRAR.

After extracting you will find the all the 3DVision installation files.

[3D Vision Experience] <DIR> 09/04/2019 14:57 -a-
[amd64] <DIR> 09/04/2019 14:46 -a-
layout.bin 491 09/04/2019 14:55 -a-
data1.cab 6,223,040 09/04/2019 14:55 -a-
data2.cab 512 09/04/2019 14:55 -a-
_setup.dll 335,672 09/04/2019 14:57 -a-
ISSetup.dll 551,920 09/04/2019 14:57 -a-
npnv3dv.dll 808,488 09/04/2019 14:55 -a-
npnv3dvstreaming.dll 293,632 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
Nv3DVisionIePlugin.dll 274,176 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
Nv3DVisionIePlugin64.dll 326,400 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
Nv3DVStreaming.dll 141,808 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
Nv3DVStreaming64.dll 171,776 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
Nv3DVStreamingIePlugin.dll 198,920 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
Nv3DVStreamingIePlugin64.dll 169,784 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvImage.dll 1,028,680 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvImage64.dll 1,333,832 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
NvSCPAPI.dll 649,288 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
NvSCPAPI64.dll 738,888 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvstapisvr.dll 378,952 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvstapisvr64.dll 413,768 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvStereoApiI.dll 329,800 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvStereoApiI64.dll 380,728 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
NvStRes.dll 3,745,592 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
NvStRes64.dll 3,636,024 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
NvStWizRes.dll 7,380,792 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvwl.dll 117,048 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvwl64.dll 130,872 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
NvStereoUtilityOGL.exe 1,146,440 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvStInst.exe 407,112 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvstlink.exe 2,373,704 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvStreaming.exe 141,384 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
nvStReg.exe 819,272 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
NvStTest.exe 2,754,360 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
NvStView.exe 4,403,000 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
NvStWiz.exe 442,680 09/04/2019 14:56 -a-
setup.exe 388,464 09/04/2019 14:57 -a-
data1.hdr 28,868 09/04/2019 14:55 -a-
NVSTEREO.INF 7,405 22/03/2019 19:35 -a-
nvTimings.ini 107,200 09/04/2019 14:53 -a-
setup.ini 841 09/04/2019 14:55 -a-
setup.inx 263,759 09/04/2019 14:53 -a-
setup.isn 76,009 19/04/2007 05:47 -a-
setup.iss 418 22/03/2019 19:35 -a-
NvStDef.reg 1,755 22/03/2019 19:35 -a-
OGLStReg.reg 10,217 09/04/2019 14:50 -a-
42,122 k in 44 files

You can Install it but as soon as the installation runs "NvStWiz.exe" it will say that it is incompatible.

Edit: Maybe we can use the Windows 10 3D mode API instead of nVidia's one?
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/display/stereoscopic-3d

Can madVR or LAV or MPC-BE use that API instead?

.

[madjock]

They fixed the Madvr HDR playing, now it doesn't switching like crazy in Potplayer .

What should we do with the 3D situation ? I am using PowerDVD 3D blu rays, what am I'm supposed to do now ?

Start a 3D Thread, this is madVR :p

[mclingo]

continue the 3D discussion here, this is what I created it for, its a 3D issue but it affects MADVR playback -

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=175769

[Q-the-STORM]

i haven't seen a dingle UHD device that support SBS or TB when set to UHD.

My E6 supports both in UHD, but I'm really not into 3D so I haven't looked if any others do, I just assumed since it's such a simple feature when the TV already supports 3D. If it's a rare feature, then it's obviously no solution for most people.

[mclingo]

the E6 was the last gen which suopported 3D on the OLED side, samsung gave up on 3D LED a year before that, I have an EF950 OLED which also supports 3D in UHD mode, you only get 2k though but as all 3D is 1080p thats no issue.

I can even get 3D in HDR mode, but obviously there are no 3D / HDR movies anyway but it works... :)

[katodevin]

It's fixed it over here. I'm on a 1660ti and am pretty pleased with this new driver so far.

Thanks so much. I'll try throwing my 1660 back into my system. Are you forcing vsync or FSE mode? Assuming you're using MPC or MPCBE?

[toki]

Thanks so much. I'll try throwing my 1660 back into my system. Are you forcing vsync or FSE mode? Assuming you're using MPC or MPCBE?FSE on MPC, not forcing VSync

[katodevin]

FSE on MPC, not forcing VSync

Have you tried to see if full screen windowed works again? If not, no worries, I can try myself.

[toki]

Have you tried to see if full-screen windowed works again? If not, no worries, I can try myself.I'm not pushing my luck right now. I've been tinkering away trying to get the best settings for quality with madVR itself without going overboard on the settings. I'm just so happy it stopped stuttering. The frustration that came along with getting this card and have that going on non-stop with no real fix for it.

[jorsan]

Hi, I have a W10, I5, 8gb and RTX 2070. Under this configuration, a 1080 movie in a 4k TV applayng (under chroma and image upsampling) any NGU upsampling options, it sttuters and I think this is not normal. Can this improved if I overclock my card?, what is the best that I can do with my RTX 2070 card?. Thanks in advance for your input.

[hotripper]

Hi, I have a W10, I5, 8gb and RTX 2070. Under this configuration, I can't run a 1080 movie in a 4k TV using (under chroma and image upsampling) any ofthe NGU upsampling options and I think this is not normal. Can this improved if I overclock my card?, what is the best that I can do with my RTX 2070 card?. Thanks in advance for your input.

What do u mean cant run? It stutters? Or just unwatchable at and no sound? Which i5 do you have?

I dont think OCing the card is gonna help much. I have NGU AA on both of those options and it runs.

[oldpainlesskodi]

Hi All.

Is anyone else but me getting banding in HDR (passthrough) in Nvidia driver 430.39? tested in both DX11 and DXVA FSE and non-FSE.

Should add, Full-Full-Full and tested in both 8bit and 12bit.

[jorsan]

Hotripper, sorry about the description. The I5 is 6th generation and yes, the problem is that sttuters but sound is ok. Thanks

[ryrynz]

I finally upgraded 385.28 to 430.39 and decided to waste a few hours trying to get custom resolutions working, I didn't succeed the first time with previous upgrades.
Any way of getting these resolutions rejected by the driver to have a chance? Or does anyone know of an edit I can make to the custom res that's likely to give me what I want? Cheers.

[Charky]

Hi, I have a W10, I5, 8gb and RTX 2070. Under this configuration, a 1080 movie in a 4k TV applayng (under chroma and image upsampling) any NGU upsampling options, it sttuters and I think this is not normal. Can this improved if I overclock my card?, what is the best that I can do with my RTX 2070 card?. Thanks in advance for your input.
GPU Driver ? What player ? Madvr version ? Other settings used (upscaling refinement... ?) ?

OSD screenshot ?

It's not normal anyway. My GTX 1070 can upscale 1080p to 2160p with NGU AA High (Chroma) and NGU Sharp High (Luma) without a hitch.

I finally upgraded 385.28 to 430.39 and decided to waste a few hours trying to get custom resolutions working, I didn't succeed the first time with previous upgrades.
Any way of getting these resolutions rejected by the driver to have a chance? Or does anyone know of an edit I can make to the custom res that's likely to give me what I want? Cheers.
I personnaly couldn't make custom res work flawlessly on both my displays (LG C8 and Sony HW40ES) with any newer driver than 385.28, with madvr integrated tool or with CRU.

[chros]

I personnaly couldn't make custom res work flawlessly on both my displays (LG C8 and Sony HW40ES) with any newer driver than 385.28, with madvr integrated tool or with CRU.
+1 (I only tried out drivers <400.xx)

[madjock]

Strange thing I have found is the TV plays a big part, something I was not aware of, I can create one in the NCP no problem since I got a Phillips 4K TV.

https://imgur.com/a/Sugg1Tu

[oldpainlesskodi]

I finally upgraded 385.28 to 430.39 and decided to waste a few hours trying to get custom resolutions working, I didn't succeed the first time with previous upgrades.
Any way of getting these resolutions rejected by the driver to have a chance? Or does anyone know of an edit I can make to the custom res that's likely to give me what I want? Cheers.

I use CRU with the settings below and get 1 repeat frame in 6-8 hours plus.

https://ibb.co/Qd0c42F

Hope it helps.

[mclingo]

never heard of anyone getting 6-8 hours on an NVIDIA card, thats impressive, unheard of even, you wont get that with 3D though mate.

[nevcairiel]

never heard of anyone getting 6-8 hours on an NVIDIA card, thats impressive, unheard of even

Thats not exactly hard to do with a custom resolution, assuming your TV is flexible enough to accept it.

[iSeries]

Thats not exactly hard to do with a custom resolution, assuming your TV is flexible enough to accept it.

Indeed, I have 3 days with a custom res for my 1050ti