madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[DragonQ]

Interestingly, although the "Aggressive Deinterlacing" workaround works for the ~hour of interlaced video after the progressive title sequence, it doesn't work for the pre-titles section, which is definitely interlaced video but not being detected as such. Tis possible the metadata is wrong in this section. Sample here. (http://www.mediafire.com/?yb995bwznf8ney7)

[pei]

IRC channel anyone? Maybe we could start one on NewNet? irc.virtual-dope.com #madvr (irc://irc.virtual-dope.com/madvr) if anyone is interested...

[chuuey]

hey guys, just wondering if I will get frame drops no matter what I do unless i get reclock? I managed to get my display refresh to a 23.976xx something - madVR displays that, but still I get a 1 frame repeat every 12-13 minutes - or so the OSD shows. Unless I configured something in madVR badly? Cheers :)

[dansrfe]

I think this would be a right time to make use of IRC for discussions related to madVR since the response time may be quicker for simple questions.

And to keep doom9 updated we can log the channel and maybe madshi could add a link to the log in the first post?

[mark0077]

hey guys, just wondering if I will get frame drops no matter what I do unless i get reclock? I managed to get my display refresh to a 23.976xx something - madVR displays that, but still I get a 1 frame repeat every 12-13 minutes - or so the OSD shows. Unless I configured something in madVR badly? Cheers :)

I honestly don't think matching rates can stop frame drops repeats. I was able to match my playback rate to my display rate reported by madvr down to like 0.0001hz using svp interpolation.

I still get drops. Madshi suggested it could be due to the clock deviation so your display will never exactly be 23.976. For those brief moments I guess you could drop a frame. That's my understanding
I actually made adjustments to my playback rate upwards in tiny increments using svp until I got 0 frame drops but can't really be sure that im not getting frame repeats. I think there's always a need for some software solution to sort out this type of problem I guess. Matching rates is good but not enough.

[Gelatinous]

IRC channel anyone? Maybe we could start one on NewNet? irc.virtual-dope.com #madvr (irc://irc.virtual-dope.com/madvr) if anyone is interested...

madshi has been asked before and wasnt interested in creating an IRC channel.

[dansrfe]

For some reason when I drag MPC-HC to my second screen MPC-HC freezes and creates a dump file. This just started happening out of the blue... :(

[kthxbye]

For some reason when I drag MPC-HC to my second screen MPC-HC freezes and creates a dump file. This just started happening out of the blue... :(

I have the exact same problem! Good to see it probably isn't my set-up.

--dump file attached--

[chuuey]

I honestly don't think matching rates can stop frame drops repeats. I was able to match my playback rate to my display rate reported by madvr down to like 0.0001hz using svp interpolation.

I still get drops. Madshi suggested it could be due to the clock deviation so your display will never exactly be 23.976. For those brief moments I guess you could drop a frame. That's my understanding
I actually made adjustments to my playback rate upwards in tiny increments using svp until I got 0 frame drops but can't really be sure that im not getting frame repeats. I think there's always a need for some software solution to sort out this type of problem I guess. Matching rates is good but not enough.

I see, thanks :) I guess I can live with 2 or 3 frame skips now and then, just was happy i managed to create a custom resolution that actually does 23.976 :)

[Jong]

hey guys, just wondering if I will get frame drops no matter what I do unless i get reclock? I managed to get my display refresh to a 23.976xx something - madVR displays that, but still I get a 1 frame repeat every 12-13 minutes - or so the OSD shows. Unless I configured something in madVR badly? Cheers :)
If you don't like the "barely supported" nature of Reclock these days There are alternatives players that encorporate "Reclock-like" technology that work together with MadVR, both mediaportal and JRiver MediaCenter
for example.

I don't use Mediaportal but JRiver MC is now my normal HTPC frontend and they are now aggressively incorporating both the latest MadVR and LAV builds (in fact they somewhat overzeleousy included a LAV beta in a full release a few days ago!). JRiver MC includes Videoclock which has all the benefits of Reclock in a supported package with LAV and MadVR.

[dansrfe]

madshi, I know that you're on leave from madVR but this issue of not being able to drag to the second screen without MPC-HC immediately crashing is making me sad :( If you need any files from the crash then please let me know and I'll post all of them.

Thanks

[nevcairiel]

madshi, I know that you're on leave from madVR but this issue of not being able to drag to the second screen without MPC-HC immediately crashing is making me sad :( If you need any files from the crash then please let me know and I'll post all of them.


Works fine for me.

Edit:
Are you using native DXVA and moving from one screen on a GPU that supports that file in DXVA to another screen which doesn't by any chance?

[dansrfe]

I'm using the same GPU with both screens and DXVA2 Native.

[kthxbye]

I'm using the same GPU with both screens and DXVA2 Native.

Me too. Radeon HD7950. It worked fine before, but the last update seems to have problems.

[Qaq]

Please remind, do I need to set Catalyst video to 16-235 for DXVA2 de-interlacing no matter I use 0-255 for output? Does it affect DXVA decoding or anything else somehow?

Is it known problem that madVR can't get the EDID from TV after TV turn off/turn on? I can get the picture but "device" is greyed in madVR's properties and any adjustments are not possible untill the whole PC reboot.

Is it known problem that saturation adjustment produces kinda banding? If not I'll try to provide some pics and samples.

[Superb]

Can confirm the crash w/ DXVA2 native and moving the MPC-HC window to another monitor. Latest drivers. Trunk MPC-HC. Latest madVR. Latest official LAV. Single GPU (GT430) for both monitors. One is connected via DVI while the other one (TV) connected via HDMI in "Extend" [desktop] mode. Both are 1080p. Computer monitor is 60Hz. TV is 23.976.

[madshi]

Could you guys with multi-monitor DXVA2 problems please test different madVR versions, different media players or media player versions and maybe even different decoders or decoder versions? This used to work before, didn't it? We need to find out where the problem is coming from (madVR update, media player update, decoder update). Since the crash doesn't seem to occur inside of madVR, this will be hard to fix for me if I can't reproduce it and if we don't know under which exact circumstances the problem occurs. There's a chance it might not be madVR's fault, too.

[nevcairiel]

It crashes in LAV because some D3D things seem to go wrong which were not checked properly, and i fixed those checks, you can grab a fixed version here:
http://files.1f0.de/lavf/LAVFilters-0.55.1-11-gc82c1a0.zip

However, i was told that even with the crash resolved, it takes several seconds for playback to resume after a screen switch (which supposedly it didn't in previous versions). I can't reproduce, its fast for me (and it also didn't crash for me, i worked on a MPC-HC crash dump)
I suggest to follow madshis advice and test in which madVR version it started, or if any other external factors are involved.

[dansrfe]

After dragging to the second screen LAV automatically switches from dxva2 native to avcodec software decoding.

madshi,

I've tried previous MPC-HC versions, previous LAV Filters, and madVR builds all the way back to the beginning of December. Still no luck. I wish I could pinpoint the exact software and update in which the problem started happening but I was away from my second monitor during the holidays visiting family.

I do remember getting a "Failed to created D3D device" error once in madVR during all LAV Filters version changes with madVR 0.85.7.

[nevcairiel]

Now that it stopped crashing, you should probably provide a madVR log of the problem, and keep the logs simple. Delete old log, open file, move, stop, zip new log. :)
I can move it around just fine here, and decoding resumes pretty fast and still in DXVA. The log may tell madshi where it fails to deliver a D3D device.

[dansrfe]

Start clip, move MPC-HC to second screen, wait for video to start playing again, immediately close MPC-HC.

madVR log:http://www.sendspace.com/file/54c6u4

[Libeluratio]

hey guys, just wondering if I will get frame drops no matter what I do unless i get reclock? I managed to get my display refresh to a 23.976xx something - madVR displays that, but still I get a 1 frame repeat every 12-13 minutes - or so the OSD shows. Unless I configured something in madVR badly? Cheers

In fact targetting a perfect 23.976024 isn't a good idea.
I managed once to get 23.97602 but still dropped frames... it's because that number in madvr isn't exact.

The most important is to watch the clock deviation (has to be as little as possible) and the "1 frame repeat/dropped every" (of course has to be as big as possible). For exemple with my two gt 430 cards and custom nvidia resolution (took me 15h testing, and pc needs to be rebooted after every change or it does not correctly applies...), playing lord of the ring return of the king (extended so 4+h playing) I manage to get 0 video or audio drop and with the first, madvr displays 23.97532 and the other 23.97737, so see, targetting a 23.97602 here is not the way to go.

Sorry for my english !

[chuuey]

In fact targetting a perfect 23.976024 isn't a good idea.
I managed once to get 23.97602 but still dropped frames... it's because that number in madvr isn't exact.

The most important is to watch the clock deviation (has to be as little as possible) and the "1 frame repeat/dropped every" (of course has to be as big as possible). For exemple with my two gt 430 cards and custom nvidia resolution (took me 15h testing, and pc needs to be rebooted after every change or it does not correctly applies...), playing lord of the ring return of the king (extended so 4+h playing) I manage to get 0 video or audio drop and with the first, madvr displays 23.97532 and the other 23.97737, so see, targetting a 23.97602 here is not the way to go.

Sorry for my english !

Oh i see, ineteresting, I'll definetely do more testing, I though madVR displays an accurate refresh rate :( It's something around 23.976405 Thanks for the tip :)

[cyberbeing]

due to the clock deviation so your display will never exactly be 23.976.
There is only an indirect relationship between madVR's reported Refresh Rate and madVR's Clock Deviation calculation, so thinking in those terms will only cause confusion. madVR's refresh Rate calculation is accurate relative to other measurements from your computer, and that's all that matters for our purposes.

On the other hand, Clock Deviation has a direct relationship to your a/v Playback Rate which causes it to never be exactly 23.9760 FPS. Depending on your Clock Deviation, your actual Playback Rate would likely fall into the range of 23.9760 +/- 0.0005 FPS. Microsoft designed DirectShow in such a way that makes this skew completely invisible and transparent to the end-user. This can be confusing, since it results in all DirectShow playback FPS statistics being technically incorrect at face value.

If you match the Refresh Rate madVR reports to a multiple of your actual playback rate (calculated from Clock Deviation), you should never experience dropped frames assuming no madVR processing slowdowns or GPU driver glitches, but locking in such a high precision Refresh Rate is not always possible. See my post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1581585&postcount=13402) for how to calculate optimal Refresh Rate from madVR's Clock Deviation statistic.

Reclock works from the opposite direction, by adjusting your a/v Playback Rate to match your Refresh Rate.

[6233638]

23Hz is not 23.9670, it's 24/1.001 (which could be rounded to 23.9760, but madVR is using more precision than that)

Run ReClock, and your clock deviation will never be an issue. No dropped/duplicated frames or audio sync issues.
If you are running ReClock, I would also suggest targetting 24.0Hz. It's what films are natively shot at, and seems to have a much smaller deviation than 24/1.001 from a PC-based source.

23Hz is for legacy compatibility with NTSC. If you are running an HTPC source, you probably don't need that.

Unfortunately if you're running Windows 8, you can't get 24.0 with Nvidia now (and possibly AMD/Intel? I have no idea) as it seems to switch to 23Hz regardless.
It's unclear whether this is an Nvidia driver issue, Windows 8 issue, or compatibility issue with madVR and Windows 8.

[jmone]

I'm with 6233638 - use something like MC's "video clock", reclock etc and just pick a refresh rate close to the "real" one (eg 24, 25, 30, etc) and kick back - it will all be in sync. I can say from years of trying to chase tweaks to refresh rate on GPU to equal fps is a fools game.

[MSL_DK]

madshi> Are your own calibration solution still on your to do list?

[Vyral]

Hey people. For those who remember me, I made a graphic based on madVR algorithms to help make a range between the "Lowest" and "Highest" (previously "Ultra", heavy word). You can see it below.

http://i.imgur.com/8pNQv.png


Catmull-Rom AR & LL is better than Lanczos 4 AR for image downscaling ?

[nevcairiel]

Catmull-Rom AR & LL is better than Lanczos 4 AR for image downscaling ?

Yes, it produces a more natural image.
Higher algorithms don't necessarily produce better results.

[FlygeSoppen]

Hi

I have a strange problem I hope someone could help me with.

I have read through a large porsion of this thread and searched the internet for days,
but I have not found a solution for my problem yet.. Im about to go bananas!

Having installed MPC-HC + Madvr + Lav on different computers without problems.

One old gaming pc with Opteron cpu, a Geforce 620 card and WinXP, worked! but as expected a little choppy.

One Dell Precision M4300 Laptop With Quadro Card and WinXP, a little choppy in window mode but worked great in full screen.

I Did the same on my Home computer, Specs:
P5K Premium mainboard, QX6850 Quad core 3ghz(overclocked to 3.6ghz), 8gb RAM, Geforce 670 card, Xfi soundcard and WinXP.
It did not work out that well. I have tryed to follow different guides on the net without any success.

When all is installed and configured just like the other computers, all I get is about 1minute of hanging blackness
with choppy sound and then some laggy film afterwards.. Its the same in window and fullscreen.

Configurations on the my home computer is exactly the same as the others.
Windows is updated, I have tried different Nvidia drivers(i am now using 310.90)
Having tested all different settings within MadVr, LAV filters, MPC and Nvidia drivers,
All is the newest versions. Nothing helps! All of the Frameworks versions is allso updated..

This computer is completely stable, new games work great and all other codecs and filters work except MadVr.

Does anybody know what it could be?

Any help would be very mouch appreciated:)

[agustin9]

Why are you still using a 11 years old OS?

[chuuey]

There is only an indirect relationship between madVR's reported Refresh Rate and madVR's Clock Deviation calculation, so thinking in those terms will only cause confusion. madVR's refresh Rate calculation is accurate relative to other measurements from your computer, and that's all that matters for our purposes.

On the other hand, Clock Deviation has a direct relationship to your a/v Playback Rate which causes it to never be exactly 23.9760 FPS. Depending on your Clock Deviation, your actual Playback Rate would likely fall into the range of 23.9760 +/- 0.0005 FPS. Microsoft designed DirectShow in such a way that makes this skew completely invisible and transparent to the end-user. This can be confusing, since it results in all DirectShow playback FPS statistics being technically incorrect at face value.

If you match the Refresh Rate madVR reports to a multiple of your actual playback rate (calculated from Clock Deviation), you should never experience dropped frames assuming no madVR processing slowdowns or GPU driver glitches, but locking in such a high precision Refresh Rate is not always possible. See my post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1581585&postcount=13402) for how to calculate optimal Refresh Rate from madVR's Clock Deviation statistic.

Reclock works from the opposite direction, by adjusting your a/v Playback Rate to match your Refresh Rate.

That's an ineteresting note - I'll definetely do some testing :) By the way, since it's so problematic to get a fluid 23.976 playback rate without any additional tools - maybe something can be done in future versions of madVR about it? Or that's the player's responsibility? Anyway thanks for all the input :)

[FlygeSoppen]

Still love my Xp:)
It works great for me, for most things..
I have a Win7 partition on my main computer also but use it only for modern games.
I dont like all the extra fanzy stuff that came along with win7,
I have tweaked it down to look like Xp though:)
Its a taste thing I guess hehe

But does anybody know what it could be that makes it so MadVr doesent work on my main computer?
It is certainly powerful enough..
And it works on the other Xp machines I have tried it on.

[njfoses]

23Hz is not 23.9670, it's 24/1.001 (which could be rounded to 23.9760, but madVR is using more precision than that)

Run ReClock, and your clock deviation will never be an issue. No dropped/duplicated frames or audio sync issues.
If you are running ReClock, I would also suggest targetting 24.0Hz. It's what films are natively shot at, and seems to have a much smaller deviation than 24/1.001 from a PC-based source.

23Hz is for legacy compatibility with NTSC. If you are running an HTPC source, you probably don't need that.

Unfortunately if you're running Windows 8, you can't get 24.0 with Nvidia now (and possibly AMD/Intel? I have no idea) as it seems to switch to 23Hz regardless.
It's unclear whether this is an Nvidia driver issue, Windows 8 issue, or compatibility issue with madVR and Windows 8.

Excuse my ignorance as i have never used reclock but reclock and bitstreaming DTS-HD/TRUE-HD do not get along correct?

[huhn]

correct but what is more important perfect video playback or perfect audio?

[SamuriHL]

Both. Decode to bit perfect PCM.

[huhn]

that not the point reclock resamples

[chuuey]

well I decided to go for reclock, too much of pain adjusting those custom resolutions, I can't believe after so many years it's still an issue ;) But with reclock it works flawless, using 24hz :) Thanks for the tips :)

[njfoses]

Both. Decode to bit perfect PCM.

Right now i bitstream all my audio via lav via hdmi to my av receiver. Is there a guide anywhere that shows how to setup reclock with lav and madvr? I know i would not be able to bitstream anymore but if i can still use pcm it may be worth it for perfect video. I have played with custom resolutions and have gotten close but not perfect.

[SamuriHL]

Depends on your player. ReClock is the audio renderer. Then LAV can be set to decode audio, and if you have the ArcSoft dts decoder dll in your LAV instance, it will decode DTS-HD MA bit perfect. This is the ideal solution.

[konakona]

Hello there.
I've checked some pulldown detection patterns: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1276064/1920x1080-24-25-30fps-test-patterns-detect-pulldown-issues

and i do have same issue as the person that posted these patterns(long quote here) "(Pulldown / Frame Interpolation: One thing I've noticed that is interesting with the test files, it shows you what pull down and frame interpolation is being applied by the PC and/or TV. Each of the test files is only encoded with only 1 red square per frame. So when playing say the NTSC test file (29.97) you see two red squares when played at 60hz...in this case (I guess) the video renderer or TV displays each frame twice but overlaps them with the following frame. Now the interesting thing is when I play the Blu-ray test file (23.976) at 24hz I see 3 red boxs on my setup. As this is not being done in the PC, it looks like it must be the TV doing a 3:3 frame interpolation (though the documentation on the PIO LX608 is pretty vague on it's settings and options here)."

i do have screen forced to 72hz,and using reclock,but it looks like something in the video chain is putting some frame interpolation and i see 3(or 2,its really hard to see) red boxes. ive tried to force vsync,and play with pulldown detection in catalyst control center but in vain. Im using madvr+newest lav filters+reclock,playing using mpc-hc,screen is dvi-d connected with custom-reduced blanking times to allow 72hz on single-link using powerstrip.

im using xp 32bit,hd4870 and dell 2209wa (the 3squares also appear when i run 30fps test on 60hz,so i dont think its a screen issue,no one else reported that too)

[Jong]

that not the point reclock resamples
But resampling is a mathematically precise process and resampling in Reclock is done to a suitably high precision. Provided the adjustments Reclock is needing to make are low (<=0.1% if adjusting up to what is needed for NTSC slow down) it should have no noticeable impact for 99.9% of user, except for almost certainly noticeably smoother video. Of course there will always be audiophiles who do not want the audio touched at all and they will need to accept less smooth video. But for most of the population I think getting video smooth is the better trade off.

[njfoses]

Depends on your player. ReClock is the audio renderer. Then LAV can be set to decode audio, and if you have the ArcSoft dts decoder dll in your LAV instance, it will decode DTS-HD MA bit perfect. This is the ideal solution.

I use mpc-hc. Im assuming i would just uncheck all the options under bitstreaming in lav audio. I have the ArcSoft dts decoder. I just dont know what settings to choose in reclock for bit exact audio and perfect 24p playback.

[SamuriHL]

In MPC-HC you set ReClock as the audio renderer. I haven't used ReClock in forever so I don't remember all the checkboxes to check.

[njfoses]

In MPC-HC you set ReClock as the audio renderer. I haven't used ReClock in forever so I don't remember all the checkboxes to check.

Thanks, ill search around for reclock settings.

[6233638]

Excuse my ignorance as i have never used reclock but reclock and bitstreaming DTS-HD/TRUE-HD do not get along correct?LAV Audio can do lossless decoding of DTS-HD and TrueHD. (DTS requires the Arcsoft dtsdecoderdll.dll copied into LAV's directory)

ReClock has to resample audio to work, but it is high quality, and any theoretical loss of quality should be imperceptible.
ReClock also gives you the option to upsample the audio if your hardware supports it, in which case there should be no loss in quality at all.
If you have CPU cycles to spare, you can also try this resampler.dll (http://www.datafilehost.com/download-dc45ff3d.html), which offers slightly better resampling, at a big CPU cost compared to the current resampler.


If you choose to bitstream, that means you are locked to the audio clock, rather than the refresh rate, which means either dropping/duplicating frames in order to keep video in sync with the audio (obvious stuttering) or allowing the audio to go out of sync.
Either of those options are far more destructive to film quality than ReClock's resampling.


I have never seen anyone able to output an exact 24/1.001 from an HTPC, and even with very minimal clock deviation (e.g. madVR reports one dropped frame every 5+ hours) while it may theoretically be one frame dropped outside the duration of the film, it usually tends to happen at least once if not more during playback despite that estimate, in my experience.


These are my ReClock settings - some of which you probably don't want to change, unless you're having problems.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/reclock-1t0pz7.png (http://www.abload.de/img/reclock-1t0pz7.png) http://www.abload.de/thumb/reclock-2wzotd.png (http://www.abload.de/img/reclock-2wzotd.png) http://www.abload.de/thumb/reclock-3f7o32.png (http://www.abload.de/img/reclock-3f7o32.png)

Page 1: WASAPI Exclusive output will bypass your drivers, and block all other system sounds. It will also throw up an error if your sampling rate, format, and the number of channels being played are not supported by your hardware. (LAV Audio has options for downmixing to a supported number of channels)

DirectSound output is easier, as it lets all other sounds play, and any output format will work - but that may result in the Windows Mixer resampling it.

No need to change the sound pre-buffer or latency options unless you're having problems. I just wanted to have it as low as possible. If it's too low, you will start getting pops & clicks or crackling in the audio.

If you are using DirectSound output, set sampling rate and format to the highest options. With WASAPI output, set sampling rate to 96kHz if your hardware supports it, and the highest format supported. Generally there's no need to go beyond 96kHz. It may result in theoretically better resampling, but most (if not all) DAC chips actually perform worse once you go over 96kHz.

Time stretching will pitch-shift audio when slowing it down or speeding it up, to keep it at the original pitch. I do not recommend turning this on, as it is generally considered to be a lossy process, and the majority (if not all) of PAL or 24/1.001 content is not pitch-corrected, so it will actually play at the correct pitch with this option disabled.

Page 2: Set the "assumed framerate when not found" to what is most common with the formats you watch, or just leave it at <unknown>.

Page 3: I prefer to not have ReClock automatically load in any application - I only want it to load where specified. In my case, I just have it set as the default audio renderer in MPC-HC's preferences.


When playing a video, there is an additional preference dialogue you can bring up either from the tray icon (if enabled) or the filter list in your player.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/reclock-4yoyms.png (http://www.abload.de/img/reclock-4yoyms.png)

Under no circumstances should you enable the "slave reference clock to audio" option, as that effectively disables ReClock's resampling/sync corrections.

You should not use ReClock's V-Sync correction with madVR, or DSound resampling. (low quality) Most of these options are greyed out due to the other preferences I have set.

Note: Where ReClock says "Media Speed changed to 24.000fps" ignore it, it's not just outputting 24.000fps. It's a message that should have been changed a long time ago, but it seems no-one got round to it.

PAL SpeedDown is optional, and should only be enabled if you will be watching PAL film content, rather than PAL video content. (which is likely 25/50fps native) There is a corresponding option in madVR's preferences as well. If you are not watching PAL content (25/50fps) then it doesn't matter what this is set to.

Have you got the same comparison for JINC 3-4-8 with and without AR (or only if AR is already 'the best quality that we can have)Just thought I would mention that I did not miss this post, and I will try and get a comparison done soon. Hopefully by the end of the week.

[njfoses]

LAV Audio can do lossless decoding of DTS-HD and TrueHD. (DTS requires the Arcsoft dtsdecoderdll.dll copied into LAV's directory)

ReClock has to resample audio to work, but it is high quality, and any theoretical loss of quality should be imperceptible.
ReClock also gives you the option to upsample the audio if your hardware supports it, in which case there should be no loss in quality at all.
If you have CPU cycles to spare, you can also try this resampler.dll (http://www.datafilehost.com/download-dc45ff3d.html), which offers slightly better resampling, at a big CPU cost compared to the current resampler.


If you choose to bitstream, that means you are locked to the audio clock, rather than the refresh rate, which means either dropping/duplicating frames in order to keep video in sync with the audio (obvious stuttering) or allowing the audio to go out of sync.
Either of those options are far more destructive to film quality than ReClock's resampling.


I have never seen anyone able to output an exact 24/1.001 from an HTPC, and even with very minimal clock deviation (e.g. madVR reports one dropped frame every 5+ hours) while it may theoretically be one frame dropped outside the duration of the film, it usually tends to happen at least once if not more during playback despite that estimate, in my experience.


These are my ReClock settings - some of which you probably don't want to change, unless you're having problems.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/reclock-1t0pz7.png (http://www.abload.de/img/reclock-1t0pz7.png) http://www.abload.de/thumb/reclock-2wzotd.png (http://www.abload.de/img/reclock-2wzotd.png) http://www.abload.de/thumb/reclock-3f7o32.png (http://www.abload.de/img/reclock-3f7o32.png)

Page 1: WASAPI Exclusive output will bypass your drivers, and block all other system sounds. It will also throw up an error if your sampling rate, format, and the number of channels being played are not supported by your hardware. (LAV Audio has options for downmixing to a supported number of channels)

DirectSound output is easier, as it lets all other sounds play, and any output format will work - but that may result in the Windows Mixer resampling it.

No need to change the sound pre-buffer or latency options unless you're having problems. I just wanted to have it as low as possible. If it's too low, you will start getting pops & clicks or crackling in the audio.

If you are using DirectSound output, set sampling rate and format to the highest options. With WASAPI output, set sampling rate to 96kHz if your hardware supports it, and the highest format supported. Generally there's no need to go beyond 96kHz. It may result in theoretically better resampling, but most (if not all) DAC chips actually perform worse once you go over 96kHz.

Time stretching will pitch-shift audio when slowing it down or speeding it up, to keep it at the original pitch. I do not recommend turning this on, as it is generally considered to be a lossy process, and the majority (if not all) of PAL or 24/1.001 content is not pitch-corrected, so it will actually play at the correct pitch with this option disabled.

Page 2: Set the "assumed framerate when not found" to what is most common with the formats you watch, or just leave it at <unknown>.

Page 3: I prefer to not have ReClock automatically load in any application - I only want it to load where specified. In my case, I just have it set as the default audio renderer in MPC-HC's preferences.


When playing a video, there is an additional preference dialogue you can bring up either from the tray icon (if enabled) or the filter list in your player.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/reclock-4yoyms.png (http://www.abload.de/img/reclock-4yoyms.png)

Under no circumstances should you enable the "slave reference clock to audio" option, as that effectively disables ReClock's resampling/sync corrections.

You should not use ReClock's V-Sync correction with madVR, or DSound resampling. (low quality) Most of these options are greyed out due to the other preferences I have set.

Note: Where ReClock says "Media Speed changed to 24.000fps" ignore it, it's not just outputting 24.000fps. It's a message that should have been changed a long time ago, but it seems no-one got round to it.

PAL SpeedDown is optional, and should only be enabled if you will be watching PAL film content, rather than PAL video content. (which is likely 25/50fps native) There is a corresponding option in madVR's preferences as well. If you are not watching PAL content (25/50fps) then it doesn't matter what this is set to.

Just thought I would mention that I did not miss this post, and I will try and get a comparison done soon. Hopefully by the end of the week.



Thanks! This really helped me setup reclock.

[njfoses]

Is there anyway to automatically launch a file in full screen exclusive mode with mpc-hc? Right now once the file starts playing i have to right click and select fullscreen.

[Neeto]

Is there anyway to automatically launch a file in full screen exclusive mode with mpc-hc? Right now once the file starts playing i have to right click and select fullscreen.

There is a command line option that lets you do that.
Something like "fullscreen"

[6233638]

Is there anyway to automatically launch a file in full screen exclusive mode with mpc-hc? Right now once the file starts playing i have to right click and select fullscreen.I don't think it launches directly into fullscreen exclusive mode, but if you open MPC-HC's preferences, you can go to Playback > Fullscreen and enable the "Launch files in fullscreen" option.