madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[madjock]

Hi!

Does anyone here keeping record of which Nvidia driver is best for all types of custom refresh rates?

390.77 works for me.

[madjock]

How can I post a picture? which url is shared? others I have seen that they have posted other url.

Once you upload the image you share the link from it, the link you shared shares nothing, try the link you create before posting it to see if it works. If you click on the one you have shared already it does not show anything at all.

[LigH]

How can I post a picture? which url is shared? others I have seen that they have posted other url.

I don't have an account on ImageShack, I don't know how their site looks; but I would assume that they provide URL's for each specific image, possibly pre-formatted to paste as HTML snippet or bbCode (this would be the format for a web forum like this).

An easier to use image hoster may be: https://frupic.frubar.net (they don't provide pre-formatted URL's, but their page URL per image is short, and you may as well copy the image address by right-clicking the uploaded image).

[sat4all]

Hi guys,

Custom resolution is not working anymore with window fullscreen mode. i've tried to create custom resolution with both nvidia cp or madvr, the result will always produce 1 repeated frame in 4.xx min. switching back to FSE fix the problem. i've noticed also that windowed mode provide better rendering time 15ms vs FSE 21ms.
I'm on last windows 10 update and nvidia driver, any body else?

[gfxnow]

This might be a silly question but should I force enable my onboard Intel GPU (HD Graphics 630) in BIOS to use it as a D3D11 CB device in LAV? The logic being that it might free up resources on my GTX 1070 allowing me to further crank up MadVR settings.

[huhn]

fixed function hardware decoder doesn't cost notable performance you are wasting your time.

[gfxnow]

fixed function hardware decoder doesn't cost notable performance you are wasting your time.

Thanks, not gonna bother then!

[giulianoprs]

https://frupic.frubar.net/fullsize/36926

in this way is it visible?

[ryrynz]

It is, but geez it's kinda small. You resized it a bit much and if I click on it the tab just closes =/

[giulianoprs]

https://frupic.frubar.net/36927

I hope it's better now, and sorry if I'm bothering you, but I do not understand much the OSD data and I would like an opinion from some madvr expert, thanks and bye.

[Warner306]

How can I post a picture? which url is shared? others I have seen that they have posted other url.

postimage is easy to use and free.

[Warner306]

Hi guys,

Custom resolution is not working anymore with window fullscreen mode. i've tried to create custom resolution with both nvidia cp or madvr, the result will always produce 1 repeated frame in 4.xx min. switching back to FSE fix the problem. i've noticed also that windowed mode provide better rendering time 15ms vs FSE 21ms.
I'm on last windows 10 update and nvidia driver, any body else?

The lower rendering times are known to be artificial.

[Warner306]

https://frupic.frubar.net/36927

I hope it's better now, and sorry if I'm bothering you, but I do not understand much the OSD data and I would like an opinion from some madvr expert, thanks and bye.

It looks fine, to me. You could consider disabling scaling for upscales that small under zoom control.

[giulianoprs]

Thanks Warner, you say go to the "zoom control" section and disable the first "voice" '"disable scaling if image size changes by only"? What does this function do? I do not know what does zoom control and I left in default.
Anyway, everything else is ok? my vision of film and tv series is without shots, all smooth, the only problem are the high temperatures of my gpu, around 65 ° !!!
My gpu is an Asus strix rx 560 o.c. 4gb

[madjock]

Can someone explain why madVR + KODI and Dsplayer seems to stabilise frame rates compared to MPC-HC and madVR?

When a Movie starts in KODI, it must do a Reset to clear dropped frames on start and seems to stabilise instantly to days then back down to hours for Frame repeats.

[huhn]

even 80° is not a number to think about they are made for such temps.

the threshold is at about 90° don't quote me on that number modern GPU can take very very high temps without any issues.

[Warner306]

Can someone explain why madVR + KODI and Dsplayer seems to stabilise frame rates compared to MPC-HC and madVR?

When a Movie starts in KODI, it must do a Reset to clear dropped frames on start and seems to stabilise instantly to days then back down to hours for Frame repeats.

No idea. The players will behave slightly differently because they are coded differently. DSPlayer is a lot more complicated. If it doesn't bother you, I wouldn't worry about it.

[Warner306]

Thanks Warner, you say go to the "zoom control" section and disable the first "voice" '"disable scaling if image size changes by only"? What does this function do? I do not know what does zoom control and I left in default.
Anyway, everything else is ok? my vision of film and tv series is without shots, all smooth, the only problem are the high temperatures of my gpu, around 65 ° !!!
My gpu is an Asus strix rx 560 o.c. 4gb

Disable scaling won't upscale anything if it fits the criteria you set. It will just display the image with a black border. This can save a little performance.

[ryrynz]

@Giulianoprs, it's a waste of resources scaling up like only 8 pixels or so, and the difference is minor.
Also IMO change your chroma scaler to NGU AA, unless of course you prefer the sharper chroma.

[mkohman]

@Giulianoprs, it's a waste of resources scaling up like only 8 pixels or so, and the difference is minor.
Also IMO change your chroma scaler to NGU AA, unless of course you prefer the sharper chroma.What's the difference between AA and Sharp please? Thanks

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[ryrynz]

Well, NGU sharp isn't an upscaler I'd ever consider using for chroma, leave it for luma only, it's way too sharp.
The difference, well honestly just search the thread for chroma posts, there's lots of them with screenshots showing the difference.
All I can say about the both of them are that they're pretty much opposite sides of the upscaling spectrum, NGU AA (Anti-alias) is used for softer upscaling keeping edges looking natural.
NGU Sharp just goes all out on everything, both are quite advanced upscalers and offer better quality upscales than the traditional "dumb" scalers like Lanzcos, Bicubic etc.

[MysteryX]

After reinstalling my graphic drivers (NVidia Geoforce 1080) madVR is causing MPC-HC to freeze and if I click on the tray icon I get "madVR instance didn't reply properly". I'm using the latest version.

What can I do from here?

[ryrynz]

MadVR probably isn't the "cause" here, have you tried doing anything else with the graphics card? Is reinstalling the graphics driver all you did? Why not perform a system restore to before you did the reinstall?

[mkohman]

Well, NGU sharp isn't an upscaler I'd ever consider using for chroma, leave it for luma only, it's way too sharp.
The difference, well honestly just search the thread for chroma posts, there's lots of them with screenshots showing the difference.
All I can say about the both of them are that they're pretty much opposite sides of the upscaling spectrum, NGU AA (Anti-alias) is used for softer upscaling keeping edges looking natural.
NGU Sharp just goes all out on everything, both are quite advanced upscalers and offer better quality upscales than the traditional "dumb" scalers like Lanzcos, Bicubic etc.Thank you.. I have 2 profiles in madVR one for 1080p and the other for 2160p.. I assume I will need to apply this when up scaling 1080p to 2160p? I'll give it a go and seek which I prefer as I currently have it on NGU sharp (High).. Thanks again

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[ryrynz]

You really should have more profiles than that to make the most of the content you have. I recommend using one of Asmodian's profiles and changing it to suit your card.

[mkohman]

You really should have more profiles than that to make the most of the content you have. I recommend using one of Asmodian's profiles and changing it to suit your card.Thank you.. Can you please elaborate on where I can find Asmodian's profiles please? .. Sorry if its a silly question.. Thanks for your help.. BTW I only have full HD bluray and 4K HDR movies..

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[madjock]

Thank you.. Can you please elaborate on where I can find Asmodian's profiles please? .. Sorry if its a silly question.. Thanks for your help.. BTW I only have full HD bluray and 4K HDR movies..

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https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1709584 :D

[mkohman]

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1709584 :DCheers for the link but the previous op recommended one of his profiles and changed it to suite my GPU.. I don't understand this part? Can't seem to see any actual profiles.. There is tons of fantastic information but can't see example of profiles..? Thanks

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[huhn]

you download the profile replace it with your setting.bin and change the settings to your liking.

[mkohman]

you download the profile replace it with your setting.bin and change the settings to your liking.Thanks much appreciated but the link is for information on madVR I can't seem to find a link for downloading profiles.. Sorry to be a pain..

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[huhn]

3 post settings.bin

[dioxholster]

What player should everyone use? MPC-HC (official or unoffical?) or something else (kodi, etc) x64 or x32?

[huhn]

what works best for you.

[mkohman]

3 post settings.binYup seen it now.. Many thanks.. Sorry to be so needy but how do I actually add this to madVR? Do I just copy and paste into the madVR folder? Thanks

Also what benefit will it provide me with respect to my current profiles as I only every have 1080p and 4K highest Bitrate movies in my library.. Not interested in 720p or lower quality movies or DVD's.

Here is my current profiles :

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[mkohman]

.. 1638016381163821638316384

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[huhn]

it's not adding the profiles it is replacing them. it actual replaces all your settings.

i don't know how they are packed or what ever but there will be a settings.bin in there and that file is used to replace your settings.bin

attachment need admin approval on this forum.

i don 't know what he has in it's profiles.

[mkohman]

Thanks.. I am pretty happy with my settings and took ages to get them all together but I will still check these settings out and compare..thanks

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[jkauff]

Also what benefit will it provide me with respect to my current profiles as I only every have 1080p and 4K highest Bitrate movies in my library.. Not interested in 720p or lower quality movies or DVD's.
No benefit if you have no lower quality sources. Keep your profiles as they are.

[mkohman]

No benefit if you have no lower quality sources. Keep your profiles as they are.Cheers..that's what I thought too. Will do [emoji106]

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[ryrynz]

no 720p? No separate profiles for 1080p24 and p60? =/ oh well.

[strumf666]

Some of us still watch 1080p23/24 on fullhd display 99% of time, so really no need for profiles in this case :)

[mkohman]

no 720p? No separate profiles for 1080p24 and p60? =/ oh well.Hi no, absolutely no 720p and I have a separate profile for 1080p as show in pictures along with 2160p.. Many thanks


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[Dorohedoro]

Some of us still watch 1080p23/24 on fullhd display 99% of time, so really no need for profiles in this case :)

Not true, some of us have a 4k display and watch 2160p content.

[ryrynz]

He did say some though.

[suanm]

@ryrynz
I've replaced LAV vider decoder with potplayer video in-built D3D11 decoder.Now i decrease screen resolution to 3835*2160p.When the playback of 4k HDR movies no frame drops.
I see madvr OSD.OSD displays chroma>bicubic60 A,image<bicubic150 LA
However, when i don't decrease screen resolution anymore,Restore the resolution to orginal 3840*2160p.Frames begin to drop.At this time i see once again madvr OSD.it displays chroma>bicubic60.No image column is displayed on madvr OSD.
The both difference is just 5 pixels in horizontal resolution.
I don't understand the reason why frames drop just 5 pixels distinction between 2135*2160p and 2140*2160p

[ryrynz]

Suanm post your OSD at 4K resolution.

[suanm]

@ryrynz
Theoretically the situation should not have happened just 5 pixels distinction in horizontal resolution.Only explanation is that the image downscaling algorithm can bring down CPU load(usages).
What do you think of my explanation?

[ryrynz]

That's what your OSD will help explain.

[suanm]

Suanm post your OSD at 4K resolution.

If i paste my screenshots,I'm afraid you can't see them.

[ryrynz]

As I said, upload them to an image host
https://imgbb.com/ is a good one, select 'bbcode full linked' and paste the code shown below in the forum.