madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[vanden]

The recommended resolution isn't even 2048x1536 even though it's the highest listed, it's 1600x1200. LaCie also lists an aperture grille pitch of 0,24mm which for this tube size gives ~1690 lines.

(CRTs don't really have a 'native definition', btw)

You're right, I made an image with a white column and a black column repeated and indeed it is only in 1600 that we can tell the number of columns ... :
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/3055/QIngq0.jpg
Yet for me it's visually more beautiful in 1920 than in 1600 ...

[TheProfosist]

Trying to troubleshoot something. On my HTPC (Win10x64-1809v2, i7-4820K, 32GB ram, RTX2060, 4K HDR Sony TV) I cant seem to get pans to be smooth even though im withing the render times on a per frame basis. I can disable more things to lower it further and it doesn't seem to improve it. Yes smooth motion is on in the when needed but should be needed her 23fps content and display changed to 24fps. It doesnt show dropped or duplicated frames for how stuttery it is. Previously had the 1060 in there no real improvement going to the 2060.

Ideas on troubleshooting this would be helpful. I have tried:

using different decoders in lav filters. Anything other than CUVID just seems worse
MPC-HC versions 1.7.13 and 1.8.4
madVR versions 0.92.14 and now 0.92.17
upgraded the GPU
lower settings from NGU to superxbr to jinc
increasing buffer from 8 to 16 (though im not sure if 6GB vram is enough for this)

I have not completely wiped my madVR settings to see if it does it from scratch since I thought I would post here first to see if someone has ideas.

[ryrynz]

Are the pans even meant to be smooth though? Here's a test, copy your content on to a USB flash drive and play it back through the TV's USB port.
Worth taking note of the picture settings and make sure they're applied to your HDMI input you're using for the HTPC.

[Asmodian]

Trying to troubleshoot something. On my HTPC (Win10x64-1809v2, i7-4820K, 32GB ram, RTX2060, 4K HDR Sony TV) I cant seem to get pans to be smooth even though im withing the render times on a per frame basis.

Is the Nvidia control panel 3D setting "Power management mode" on Optimal Power? It should not be.

Is the Windows 10 Focus Assist enabled in anyway? Disable it, including the extra options, just the global disable is not enough.

Are you running F.lux?

[austinminton]

I cant seem to get pans to be smooth even though im withing the render times on a per frame basis.

Try full screen exclusive. It fixed stuttering issues for me on my 2080ti.

[TheProfosist]

Trying to troubleshoot something. On my HTPC (Win10x64-1809v2, i7-4820K, 32GB ram, RTX2060, 4K HDR Sony TV) I cant seem to get pans to be smooth even though im withing the render times on a per frame basis. I can disable more things to lower it further and it doesn't seem to improve it. Yes smooth motion is on in the when needed but should be needed her 23fps content and display changed to 24fps. It doesnt show dropped or duplicated frames for how stuttery it is. Previously had the 1060 in there no real improvement going to the 2060.

Ideas on troubleshooting this would be helpful. I have tried:

using different decoders in lav filters. Anything other than CUVID just seems worse
MPC-HC versions 1.7.13 and 1.8.4
madVR versions 0.92.14 and now 0.92.17
upgraded the GPU
lower settings from NGU to superxbr to jinc
increasing buffer from 8 to 16 (though im not sure if 6GB vram is enough for this)

I have not completely wiped my madVR settings to see if it does it from scratch since I thought I would post here first to see if someone has ideas.

would like to add that I have also tried moving the source to an NVMe SSD
I have also tried turning off HDR
neither of these show improvement




1060 will give you a baseline. Everything below 1060 shouldn't be bought at this point.

Everything more expensive than the 1060 has QUESTIONABLE benefits. But the benefits ARE THERE.

when going to 4K and using NGU I would have to agree. In some cases a 1060 is just enough which is why I went up to the 2060


Are the pans even meant to be smooth though? Here's a test, copy your content on to a USB flash drive and play it back through the TV's USB port.
Worth taking note of the picture settings and make sure they're applied to your HDMI input you're using for the HTPC.



yes these should be smooth. Examples would be in live action Ghost In the Shell when they pan up the buildings to where she is standing.

Another would be in the beginning of blade runner 2049 or really any time they pan across a large area.

These pans happen in anime very often as well found some good ones in Hozuki's Coolheadedness and Mardock Scramble that I have been testing with.

These all are normally buttery smooth but now they have are stutters. Not like the normal judder you'd see displaying 24fps on 60fps screen but more hitching than anything like some frames kind of catch and hang more than others.



Is the Nvidia control panel 3D setting "Power management mode" on Optimal Power? It should not be.

Is the Windows 10 Focus Assist enabled in anyway? Disable it, including the extra options, just the global disable is not enough.

Are you running F.lux?

its on Prefer maximum performance

Focus assist is completely turned off

no I'm not running that and I have not yet calibrated the TV as I haven't had the time to look into that yet, especially for HDR



Try full screen exclusive. It fixed stuttering issues for me on my 2080ti.

I always run full screen exclusive on this system since it only has one display and watching is all I will be doing on it.

[madjock]

These all are normally buttery smooth but now they have are stutters. Not like the normal judder you'd see displaying 24fps on 60fps screen but more hitching than anything like some frames kind of catch and hang more than others.

I read somewhere about a Windows 10 update that was affecting games and maybe video, did you just update ? change drivers etc...

The way you explain it is as if something has changed recently ?

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-kb4482887-cumulative-update-causing-major-stuttering-in-games/

[brazen1]

Use D3D11 auto/native in LAV Filter.
Turn off SM in madVR.
Match refresh rates using madVR for all resolutions in 2160p only.
Add 2 blank folders to madVR install directory named ShowHdrMode and ShowRenderSteps.
Link a screen shot of your OSD.

Slow pans should be butter smooth with absolutely no hitches in the giddy up at all. No judder, no blur, no dropped/repeated frames. Nothing but bliss no matter the resolution. Opening scene of Cowboys and Aliens or opening credits of The Wrestler are my go to test subjects.

[ryrynz]

Sounds like an OS/Driver issue. You should revert to your last good backup/System Restore point.

[tp4tissue]

Use D3D11 auto/native in LAV Filter.
Turn off SM in madVR.
Match refresh rates using madVR for all resolutions in 2160p only.
Add 2 blank folders to madVR install directory named ShowHdrMode and ShowRenderSteps.
Link a screen shot of your OSD.

Slow pans should be butter smooth with absolutely no hitches in the giddy up at all. No judder, no blur, no dropped/repeated frames. Nothing but bliss no matter the resolution. Opening scene of Cowboys and Aliens or opening credits of The Wrestler are my go to test subjects.

What does this mean, -match refresh rates using madvr for all resolutions- ?

[border.community]

Anybody have thoughts on why mpc-hc is freezing during 4k HDR 24p playback? Some movies i can get through no problems but others it can crash every 20 minutes or so. I thought 1050ti was good enough so trying to rule out the card as the problem---otherwise was thinking need to go 1060 or higher.

-1050ti 4gb
-HDR passthrough
-NGU AA med
-D3D11 FSE
-all trade quality for performance unchecked
-smooth motion off
-gpu/cpu queue size 12
-presenting 8 frames in advance
-nothing under "processing" folder turned on
-win10
-390.77
-ryzen 5

[brazen1]

It means sometimes alternate advice works too. Instead of using a player like MPC and entering refresh rates in its settings, use madVR exclusively and turn it off elsewhere for madVR player(s) used.

I have a native 2160p display I use for everything including 1080p 3D. Far too many times I see users suggesting to use players to control resolution switching instead of madVR. This is usually to work around other problems and in turn create even more problems except the one at hand. Furthermore, less experienced users don't match refresh rates at all and then we read complaints about judder. How many times have you seen an OSD screenshot playing 23.976 video and rendering at 60Hz with a 120Hz or higher display? Still others suggest to enter all the refresh rates a display handles instead of just the native highest which creates even more problems. For example, entering a bunch of 1080 resolutions when you are scaling everything to 2160 in the first place.

Thus my statement you clipped a bit "Match refresh rates using madVR for all resolutions in 2160p only".
This because the OP has a native 2160p display and I suggested to let madVR do all the scaling since it's been foolproof for me for years using a lot of diverse sources.
In that case I use these and only these and only entered in madVR for its comparable players aka "Match refresh rates using madVR". I have never run into a problem and again with lots of diverse titles.
2160p23, 2160p24, 2160p25, 2160p30, 2160p50, 2160p59, 2160p60 aka "all resolutions in 2160p only".

Now if your display is not native 2160p unlike mine and the OP's which are, I suppose you would use a completely different set of resolution values and begin working around your true problem. Same goes if you have 3D problems that require 1080p values or HDMI 2.0 vs 1.4 junk capability devices and so on. Fwiw, I also suggest 'whitelisting' these and only these values in Kodi for the times you use its internal VideoPlayer instead of a madVR player since madVR will NOT be controlling the internal player since it is not a madVR related player. If I'm not mistaken, only Kodi v.18 offers these values allowing casual use converting HDR to SDR be possible without side affects such as postage stamping.

[ryrynz]

Anybody have thoughts on why mpc-hc is freezing during 4k HDR 24p playback? Some movies i can get through no problems but others it can crash every 20 minutes or so.

Ain't anything to do with madVR or mpc-hc or even the content itself.. You have a system issue. Test all hardware and revert to your last known good backup.

[brazen1]

Border.community, you're learning that what may be 'good enough' for one title doesn't exactly translate for another. Find the hardest title you have to play and lower your settings until it works. I use the Sony camp video at 60fps. 2nd hardest for me is The Hunger Games at 23.976. I can play this one perfectly for about 5 minutes and then it starts dropping frames the queue can't keep with. So, I lowered my aggressive settings that work fine with other titles 100% of the time and now this one is accommodated too. Granted I could tailor settings for every movie but who wants to that? If anything the easy to play titles are now even more relaxed and when a hard to decode and render is selected, it's possible.

On a side note, Green Book will be released in a couple days. I think you will find it the best upscaled 4k movie to date for its video properties. Right there, if not exceeding, Planet Earth II. Probably the cameras. And with madVR chroma...

[border.community]

Ain't anything to do with madVR or mpc-hc or even the content itself.. You have a system issue. Test all hardware and revert to your last known good backup.


You mean something with Windows or nvidia drivers? That wouldn't surprise me, yet brazen1 thinks the settings are too high which gets me second guessing whether 1050ti is good enough. And for reference, Blade Runner 2049 didn't have a hiccup, but Planet Earth II usually crashed a few times.

Think my best bet is a clean install and see how it does.

[tp4tissue]

You mean something with Windows or nvidia drivers? That wouldn't surprise me, yet brazen1 thinks the settings are too high which gets me second guessing whether 1050ti is good enough. And for reference, Blade Runner 2049 didn't have a hiccup, but Planet Earth II usually crashed a few times.

Think my best bet is a clean install and see how it does.

Are you using CPU decode or GPU dxva copyback.

Do you have CPU or Gpu overclock enabled.

[border.community]

Are you using CPU decode or GPU dxva copyback.

Do you have CPU or Gpu overclock enabled.


Using D3D11 hardware decoder if that's what you mean.

Overclocking the 1050ti, yes---it's the SC version.

Ryzen OC'd to 3.7 GHz.

[ryrynz]

Set clocks back to defaults before reinstalling. Highly recommend a system restore before blitzing an entire OS.

[border.community]

Set clocks back to defaults before reinstalling. Highly recommend a system restore before blitzing an entire OS.


I will unclock and report back.


As far as system restore, Planet Earth II was the second thing I ran on madvr and the freezes happened immediately, so not like I have a steady state to revert back to.

[tp4tissue]

I will unclock and report back.


As far as system restore, Planet Earth II was the second thing I ran on madvr and the freezes happened immediately, so not like I have a steady state to revert back to.

If it still crashes at Stock clocks, (assuming it's not software related), then that means the motherboard default detected settings are unstable.

USUALLY, it's the memory subtimings which are detected wrong, this is common to ryzen boards, since they're still fairly new.

Try lowering the memory clock to the next step below labeled speed + 0.1v to default and test again.

If everything is still crashing when cpu+gpu are at stock, and mem is at _reduced clock_.

THEN it's likely software.

You don't need to reformat, just plug in another disk (hdd or ssd), install a whole new windows 10.. just install madvr and the video drivers, if it crashes, then we're back to hardwrae.

Don't format your current disk, because if it's not the software, then you can save time and just plug it back in.

[TheProfosist]

I have gotten the stutter to stop but I had to default the settings for madVR which I was trying to avoid since I had spent some time getting my setting optimized and groups and shortcuts setup for my remote.

Now I need to rebuild my settings option by option and monitor for issues. @tp4tissue seemes like you have the settings for your 1060 nailed down think you could send some screenshots over or something just so I can see how yours compares to what I had?



I read somewhere about a Windows 10 update that was affecting games and maybe video, did you just update ? change drivers etc...

The way you explain it is as if something has changed recently ?

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-kb4482887-cumulative-update-causing-major-stuttering-in-games/

Nah its been since I have moved to Win10. I also did a clean install not an upgrade.



Use D3D11 auto/native in LAV Filter.
Turn off SM in madVR.
Match refresh rates using madVR for all resolutions in 2160p only.
Add 2 blank folders to madVR install directory named ShowHdrMode and ShowRenderSteps.
Link a screen shot of your OSD.

Slow pans should be butter smooth with absolutely no hitches in the giddy up at all. No judder, no blur, no dropped/repeated frames. Nothing but bliss no matter the resolution. Opening scene of Cowboys and Aliens or opening credits of The Wrestler are my go to test subjects.


If I may ask why D3D11 in lavvideo not cuvid?

Also why no smooth motion? Comes in handy when there an odd framrate or something. Not a huge deal when on the HTPC with a TV since it has 23,25,29,50,59 but with the correct setting it won't activate unless needed

Also what are the folders for/what do they do?

and yes it should be butter smooth and not stutter at all this is the experience I have had and did up until my recent clean install to Win10 and upgrades.



Sounds like an OS/Driver issue. You should revert to your last good backup/System Restore point.

This is on a clean install with latest driver and build of Win10 so I could properly make use of the new hardware and software features.

I did carry over my madVR folder though in hopes that I wouldn't have to reconfigure it.

[ryrynz]

I did carry over my madVR folder though in hopes that I wouldn't have to reconfigure it.

Keep a copy of that folder but do test madvr set with defaults also.

[madjock]

Anybody have thoughts on why mpc-hc is freezing during 4k HDR 24p playback? Some movies i can get through no problems but others it can crash every 20 minutes or so. I thought 1050ti was good enough so trying to rule out the card as the problem---otherwise was thinking need to go 1060 or higher.

-1050ti 4gb
-HDR passthrough
-NGU AA med
-D3D11 FSE
-all trade quality for performance unchecked
-smooth motion off
-gpu/cpu queue size 12
-presenting 8 frames in advance
-nothing under "processing" folder turned on
-win10
-390.77
-ryzen 5

I recently upgraded from a 1050 myself, but I found bringing the Q sizes down made it more stable for frame drops and the likes, but I never had crashes, this does sound more hardware orientated with overclocking as has been said. Something like 8/4/4 helped, I do have to say though upgrading to a used 1070 has changed everything, I am finding I am putting everything on high just to push it, having 8GB instead of 2GB onboard memory makes all the difference as well in my case.

[Siso]

Do you guys use anti-bloating filter (100%) with downscaling SSIM 1D 100%?

[el Filou]

Crashes always indicate system instability. A system that cannot keep up with madVR just drops frames but should not crash.
Also, a system that plays smooth at the beginning of a movie for a few minutes but starts dropping frames later is not because madVR settings are too high but because system components are thermal throttling or not keeping up with buffering (problems with storage/network).

[zaemon]

Hello,

So I just finished to setup my new rig and I'm really struggling to get back madVR playback to what it was before. I went from a GTX 1080 to an RTX 2080 Ti and from an i5 6400 to an i9 9900k. With the new rig I'm getting stuttering in full screen in every configuration I could think of. I basically tried everything. From the decoder to the renderer to the OS. In every configuration I got excellent to decent average render times (10 ms). The problem is the max render time which is very high (usually above 60 ms). I could be wrong but with the old rig I don't think I ever experienced such bad max render times. What is weird is that I have no dropped frames. I'm kinda limited with drivers because RTX is not supported with old drivers. I tried to install the one I think I was using before but it cannot be done.

It would be great if you had any kind of idea. 1080p playback is barely okay but UHD playback is just not watchable at the moment. In the past everything was running smooth with 3D LUT, HDR tone mapping and even some upscaling/zoom control. Something's really off but aside from the max render times, all looks good to me.

Thanks.

[tp4tissue]

Try older drivers first.

[tp4tissue]

Now I need to rebuild my settings option by option and monitor for issues. @tp4tissue seemes like you have the settings for your 1060 nailed down think you could send some screenshots over or something just so I can see how yours compares to what I had?
.

There's nothing to screen shot :D

The settings in my previous post is on the latest test build with the new HDR tweaks which are (more heavy, by 5-9ms) than the 92.17 official release.

They're set for 24p material, output to 4K TV, 24 cpu queue, 16 gpu

I tweaked each of the settings up until avg rendertime reach ~30-37ms/

(this is purposeful) such that it will not skip frames.

If the average was pushed closer to 41, then the peaks much greater than 41 may cause dropped frames.



This is a 6gb evga 1060 ftw+, 2.1ghz core 9ghz vram

[Nicog]

Try older drivers first.

Hi Everyone,

I have exactly same issue. What driver number do you suggest?

My config : I7 7700 + RTX2070, last Windows, last MadVR, last Nvidia drivers.

I tried also almost everything. Sometimes FSE works, sometimes not (I don't know why!)

The stangest thing is that if, with the mouse, I show the seek bar, or show contextual menu (right clic), no sluttering at all !!!

[tp4tissue]

Weird issue, enabling BBD on latest test build causes significant performance loss on 4K HDR remuxes. Without BBD it runs fine.

[tp4tissue]

Hi Everyone,

I have exactly same issue. What driver number do you suggest?

My config : I7 7700 + RTX2070, last Windows, last MadVR, last Nvidia drivers.

I tried also almost everything. Sometimes FSE works, sometimes not (I don't know why!)

The stangest thing is that if, with the mouse, I show the seek bar, or show contextual menu (right clic), no sluttering at all !!!

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=176013

If that doesn't work

There was also someone else who reported that Windows updated something recently which caused refreshrate mis-mash of some sort which caused stutter in madvr.

[Nicog]

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=176013

If that doesn't work

There was also someone else who reported that Windows updated something recently which caused refreshrate mis-mash of some sort which caused stutter in madvr.

Thanks,

I just read all the topic mensioned, and I didn't found any recommended driver for RTX cards...

Sorry but what is BBD?

[zaemon]

At 60 Hz it runs smooth aside from the frame repeat every 40 sec. With Smooth Motion on I think I can live with it. Probably some kind of driver issue. Stuttering is occuring with auto framerate and 23-24 Hz material.

[ryrynz]

Do you guys use anti-bloating filter (100%) with downscaling SSIM 1D 100%?

Most don't based on what I've seen. These are all personal choices..
Who cares what other people run with minor settings such as these? I'd never blindly set options without evaluating their results..
Your opinion is the only thing that matters at the end of the day.

[huhn]

At 60 Hz it runs smooth aside from the frame repeat every 40 sec. With Smooth Motion on I think I can live with it. Probably some kind of driver issue. Stuttering is occuring with auto framerate and 23-24 Hz material.

with SM the number is still calculated but it should never happen.

[tp4tissue]

Did madshi ever explain why Nvidi is better at NGU ?

[huhn]

no he didn't he was pretty disappointed when in my performance report form a RX 480 back then and it's not like you look at the code and know why. and NGU isn't generally better with nvidia is just that polaris has problem with it.

[Betroz]

Long time since I've been in here, so may I ask if Madshi has stopped development of MadVr for the time beeing? It's been over 5 months since version 0.92.17 came out now.

[ryrynz]

You should've used search before asking this, he's in deep development of HDR tone mapping.
If you wish you can follow development here (https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-digital-hi-end-projectors-3-000-usd-msrp/2954506-improving-madvr-hdr-sdr-mapping-projector.html)
This has been mentioned many multiple times, you're a semi regular here, did you forget or something?
Might see a final release in April.

[Betroz]

You should've used search before asking this, he's in deep development of HDR tone mapping.
If you wish you can follow development here (https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-digital-hi-end-projectors-3-000-usd-msrp/2954506-improving-madvr-hdr-sdr-mapping-projector.html)
This has been mentioned many multiple times, you're a semi regular here, did you forget or something?
Might see a final release in April.

I was semi regular here. Ohh sorry, I asked the same question I did 6 months ago... how rude of me ;)

[tp4tissue]

no he didn't he was pretty disappointed when in my performance report form a RX 480 back then and it's not like you look at the code and know why. and NGU isn't generally better with nvidia is just that polaris has problem with it.

What about the new Radeon 7. Any madvr lifts reported on the new architecture ?

[nevcairiel]

What about the new Radeon 7. Any madvr lifts reported on the new architecture ?

Its not "new", its the same architecture as Vega.

[tp4tissue]

Its not "new", its the same architecture as Vega.

Annnnd, Vega was a no-improve on NGU ?

[chros]

Annnnd, Vega was a no-improve on NGU ?
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1820190#post1820190, but its power consumption is far from ideal for a HTPC :) Maybe the next gen Navi GPus.

[tp4tissue]

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1820190#post1820190, but its power consumption is far from ideal for a HTPC :) Maybe the next gen Navi GPus.

Does the user snowknight have the vega 56 or 64 ?

[TheProfosist]

Hello,

So I just finished to setup my new rig and I'm really struggling to get back madVR playback to what it was before. I went from a GTX 1080 to an RTX 2080 Ti and from an i5 6400 to an i9 9900k. With the new rig I'm getting stuttering in full screen in every configuration I could think of. I basically tried everything. From the decoder to the renderer to the OS. In every configuration I got excellent to decent average render times (10 ms). The problem is the max render time which is very high (usually above 60 ms). I could be wrong but with the old rig I don't think I ever experienced such bad max render times. What is weird is that I have no dropped frames. I'm kinda limited with drivers because RTX is not supported with old drivers. I tried to install the one I think I was using before but it cannot be done.

It would be great if you had any kind of idea. 1080p playback is barely okay but UHD playback is just not watchable at the moment. In the past everything was running smooth with 3D LUT, HDR tone mapping and even some upscaling/zoom control. Something's really off but aside from the max render times, all looks good to me.

Thanks.

sounds like my situation minus the render times. backup your madvr folder and reset settings to default and rebuild your profiles see if that fixes it.

[Nicog]

Hi Everyone,

I have exactly same issue. What driver number do you suggest?

My config : I7 7700 + RTX2070, last Windows, last MadVR, last Nvidia drivers.

I tried also almost everything. Sometimes FSE works, sometimes not (I don't know why!)

The stangest thing is that if, with the mouse, I show the seek bar, or show contextual menu (right clic), no sluttering at all !!!

Work also very well (no sluttering) if I press the Windows key on my keyboard…

It looks like it works only if there is another layer in front of my movie...

[border.community]

Anybody have thoughts on why mpc-hc is freezing during 4k HDR 24p playback? Some movies i can get through no problems but others it can crash every 20 minutes or so. I thought 1050ti was good enough so trying to rule out the card as the problem---otherwise was thinking need to go 1060 or higher.

-1050ti 4gb
-HDR passthrough
-NGU AA med
-D3D11 FSE
-all trade quality for performance unchecked
-smooth motion off
-gpu/cpu queue size 12
-presenting 8 frames in advance
-nothing under "processing" folder turned on
-win10
-390.77
-ryzen 5


I am probably using the terms "freezing" and "crashing" too loosely here so let me clarify.

When I am watching something like Planet Earth II the image will freeze on the screen but the sound keeps playing fine. Only way for me to fix is to restart MPC.

Not sure if that changes anybody's opinion about what my problem is but wanted to be more specific. I haven't tried watching unclocked yet but will soon.

[Asmodian]

Work also very well (no sluttering) if I press the Windows key on my keyboard…

You have the GPU not using "Optimal Power" in 3D Settings? Don't use FSE. Do you have a Gsync or Freesync display? Also make sure Windows 10's Focus Assist is completely disabled, including the other options on that config page, even though they don't seem like they would cause problems they do seem to.

Windowed Overlay is also something to try.

Sorry if you already tried those. :o

[bboynk]

Hiya m8's

I'm having an absolutely infuriating time with MPC-HC and Mad VR, no matter what combinations of options I use (default, fullscreen, windowed etc...) the moment I try to match my display (lg c7 + rtx 2080) with the source, I get crazy jitters, however when I don't match the display it jitters a tad but it's more bearable to watch, any reason why matching the display with source would cause the jitters? I've tried with adaptive, optimal and max power (gpu wise) too