madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) [Archive] - Page 125

pie1394

21st March 2011, 14:06

The OSD composition works fine for FILM contents at 23.976 fps refresh rate output.

But it looks like madVR makes the GPU overloaded with the Core2Duo + Ion 9300M system + Win7 x64 at the following case:

- 1920x1080p24 FILM
- Down-scaled by 0.5x (Catmull-Rom)
- Window mode
- Screen is 1400x1050 at 72Hz.

As the attached captured video, it was noticed that Composition rate kept changing among 24 / 36 / 72 Hz. I guess it is the reason why the playback is not smoothy.

How about making the composition rate locked at source content frame rate? I did this before to save a lot of CPU computation power and memory bandwidth for program-based OSD.

Of course it will have some side-effects on the very fancy Karaok effects.

madshi

21st March 2011, 14:08

I just double-checked (MKV, DVD rip) and it seems to be working fine here, MPC-HC 2991. I seeked fwd and rev many times, synch appears to be correct and hold.
Thx for testing.

The OSD composition works fine for FILM contents at 23.976 fps refresh rate output.

But it looks like madVR makes the GPU overloaded with the Core2Duo + Ion 9300M system + Win7 x64 at the following case:

- 1920x1080p24 FILM
- Down-scaled by 0.5x (Catmull-Rom)
- Window mode
- Screen is 1400x1050 at 72Hz.

As the attached captured video, it was noticed that Composition rate kept changing among 24 / 36 / 72 Hz. I guess it is the reason why the playback is not smoothy.

How about making the composition rate locked at source content frame rate? I did this before to save a lot of CPU computation power and memory bandwidth for program-based OSD.

Of course it will have some side-effects on the very fancy Karaok effects.
The "composition rate" is controlled by Windows/Aero. I've zero influence on that. Try using fullscreen exclusive mode... ;)

pawlol83

21st March 2011, 14:41

No need to be sorry. Bug reports are useful. The only problem for me is that I can't reproduce this bug. Can anybody else? Can everybody who's planning to use the MPC-HC internal subtitle renderer please double check for correct subtitle sync with and without seeking? Thanks!

@ madshi Please, download a file from the sample of the video with subtitles. I attach an additional file with the settings Media Player Home Cinema ver. 1.5.2.2990. You can use it to verify the problem. Please play the file in evr custom mode (the problem does not occur with subtitles) and you madVR (subtitles appear for 5 seconds too early).

sample video: http://cid-33b9075ef19e9efa.office.live.com/self.aspx/Public/sample.zip

LoRd_MuldeR

21st March 2011, 15:27

For some reason I cannot go to "fullscreen exclusive mode" anymore. I always get "exclusive mode failed" error message. Any ideas?

The log is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?niamyrgruka4au7

madshi

21st March 2011, 16:39

@ madshi Please, download a file from the sample of the video with subtitles. I attach an additional file with the settings Media Player Home Cinema ver. 1.5.2.2990. You can use it to verify the problem. Please play the file in evr custom mode (the problem does not occur with subtitles) and you madVR (subtitles appear for 5 seconds too early).
Thanks for the sample. I can reproduce that madVR shows the subtitles too early. It's about 2 seconds on my PC, though and not 5 seconds. Furthermore with a different clip with different subtitles the problem does not occur. I don't know where the problem is coming from but the Haali Video Renderer shows exactly the same behaviour as madVR with both clips. So it seems to be a bug in MPC-HC and not in madVR. For your information: The Haali Video Renderer and madVR are using the same subtitle mechanism. EVR Custom uses a different mechanism. The solution used for EVR Custom can't be used for external renderers. I wish I could do more for you, but right now all I can say is that it seems to be a bug in MPC-HC and not in madVR.

For some reason I cannot go to "fullscreen exclusive mode" anymore. I always get "exclusive mode failed" error message. Any ideas?
The log doesn't really say so much. A google searach for the error code returned by DirectShow indicates that typical causes of the problem are either that your GPU RAM is too small or that some resources were not released properly before trying to switch to exclusive mode. Don't know if that helps much... ;-/

LoRd_MuldeR

21st March 2011, 16:47

The log doesn't really say so much. A google searach for the error code returned by DirectShow indicates that typical causes of the problem are either that your GPU RAM is too small or that some resources were not released properly before trying to switch to exclusive mode. Don't know if that helps much... ;-/

Too few GPU RAM can be excluded. I didn't change my hardware. It still is a GTX 260 with 896 MB of RAM.

(And it used to work on my system not too long ago ^^)

About releasing resources: What should I look at? No other apps were running. And a reboot didn't help either...

namaiki

21st March 2011, 16:53

LoRd_MuldeR: multiple or single monitor?

LoRd_MuldeR

21st March 2011, 16:55

LoRd_MuldeR: multiple or single monitor?

Two monitors. But that didn't change either.

namaiki

21st March 2011, 16:57

Two monitors. But that didn't change either.

Just wondering as I get exclusive mode failed if I open madVR on one monitor and then drag it to the second one and put it into full screen there.

Razoola

21st March 2011, 17:04

madshi

21st March 2011, 17:04

Too few GPU RAM can be excluded. I didn't change my hardware. It still is a GTX 260 with 896 MB of RAM.

(And it used to work on my system not too long ago ^^)

About releasing resources: What should I look at? No other apps were running. And a reboot didn't help either...
Well, something must have changed. Did you install a different driver version? Updated to a newer MPC-HC build and/or newer madVR version? You could start by trying older madVR and MPC-HC builds. If older builds work it would be helpful if you could find out which version exactly breaks exclusive mode for you.

madshi

21st March 2011, 17:13

I still get subtitle problems in 047 but it is much much improoved compared to the issues I was seeing in 045. Once after seeking subtitles stopped working and I had to seek again to get them working again. I tried letting it play for a couple of minuted to see if they came back on their own but they did not. I have only got this problem to happen once however and I tried to reproduce with no luck yet.

I also have slight sync issues but not as much as 5 seconds pawlol83 mentions, I have seen issues of around .5 of a second. I read that you can reproduce it which is good news but its not a madvr issue. You mention a bug in MPC-HC, are you going to pass that onto them?
Depends. It would be great if you could double check any potential problems with the Haali Video Renderer. If the same problems occur with both renderers then the bug is in MPC-HC. If madVR shows a specific problem but Haali does not then it's likely a bug in madVR. This information alone is worth a lot to me because it saves me a lot of time.

I'm not sure about what to do if the bug is in MPC-HC. I guess it depends on how critical the bug is, how easy to reproduce and how much content (in percent) it affects. Generally I don't like hunting bugs in MPC-HC at all because I don't know the MPC-HC code well. Furthermore compiling MPC-HC is extremely painful, at least on my old and ageing development PC.

LoRd_MuldeR

21st March 2011, 17:17

Just wondering as I get exclusive mode failed if I open madVR on one monitor and then drag it to the second one and put it into full screen there.

I just tried to disable the second monitor (by disabling the device in the windows device manager), but after that Aero Glass was disabled for some reason and Windows complained that the driver doesn't support Aero Glass. Also I couldn't re-enable the second monitor, as it had disappeared from the device manager. Reboot didn't help, so I had to uninstall + re-install the video drivers. Now the second monitor is back alive. And, surprise surprise, MadVR works fine now (including "fullscreen exclusive mode"). I have no idea what was wrong before, as I re-installed the same driver version as before...

Well, something must have changed. Did you install a different driver version? Updated to a newer MPC-HC build and/or newer madVR version? You could start by trying older madVR and MPC-HC builds. If older builds work it would be helpful if you could find out which version exactly breaks exclusive mode for you.

That's what I tried first. Problem was with older MadVR and with older MPC-HC as well. But it has disappeared now...

I think I got it: It was the "Custom Resolution" that was blocking the "fullscreen exclusive mode" in MadVR! Too bad, only that I way I could force 50 Hz :eek:

BTW: Anybody else experience that playback continues in MPC-HC after closing the media? (might not be a MadVR-specifc issue though).

Razoola

21st March 2011, 17:34

Depends. It would be great if you could double check any potential problems with the Haali Video Renderer. If the same problems occur with both renderers then the bug is in MPC-HC. If madVR shows a specific problem but Haali does not then it's likely a bug in madVR. This information alone is worth a lot to me because it saves me a lot of time.

I'm not sure about what to do if the bug is in MPC-HC. I guess it depends on how critical the bug is, how easy to reproduce and how much content (in percent) it affects. Generally I don't like hunting bugs in MPC-HC at all because I don't know the MPC-HC code well. Furthermore compiling MPC-HC is extremely painful, at least on my old and ageing development PC.

No problem I can test against haali before reporting anything else I find with subtitles.

About the issue you found in MPC-HC. Maybe you can just pass the info onto them so they can go a hunting for it. Normally with these things it would be given a higher priority if you were to pass the info to them about it compared to an average joe who probably could not correctly explain it on the bug tracker.

leeperry

21st March 2011, 17:35

I think I got it: It was the "Custom Resolution" that was blocking the "fullscreen exclusive mode" in MadVR! Too bad, only that I way I could force 50 Hz
On XPSP3, If I force a default refresh rate >60Hz in the last page of dxdiag, then no more FSE in mVR...I have it to set it back to "default".
Anybody else experience that playback continues in MPC-HC after closing the media? (might not be a MadVR-specifc issue though).
Very often, MPC/MPC-HC remains as a system process after I close it..it's a known bug. It's always happened, even w/ HR...nothing mVR-related on my box.

madshi

21st March 2011, 17:39

I think I got it: It was the "Custom Resolution" that was blocking the "fullscreen exclusive mode" in MadVR! Too bad, only that I way I could force 50 Hz :eek:
Don't know why a custom resolution should stop the exclusive mode from working. I'm using custom modes on my 9400 mainboard, too. However, my custom modes just redefine already existing resolutions. They don't create new ones. Maybe that's the difference. Anyway, this is out of my hands, as far as I can see. The problem might go away once I implement automatic refresh rate switching. Or not. I don't know.

About the issue you found in MPC-HC. Maybe you can just pass the info onto them so they can go a hunting for it. Normally with these things it would be given a higher priority if you were to pass the info to them about it compared to an average joe who probably could not correctly explain it on the bug tracker.
I don't know a single MPC-HC dev who has experience with subtitles. I don't know any MPC-HC dev who I could ask to fix a bug. Maybe Casimir, but haven't seen him for ages and I don't think he's much knowledge about subtitle internals, either.

LoRd_MuldeR

21st March 2011, 17:48

Don't know why a custom resolution should stop the exclusive mode from working. I'm using custom modes on my 9400 mainboard, too. However, my custom modes just redefine already existing resolutions. They don't create new ones. Maybe that's the difference. Anyway, this is out of my hands, as far as I can see. The problem might go away once I implement automatic refresh rate switching. Or not. I don't know.

I can definitely re-produce this behavior here. So maybe you should document this somewhere, as other users might run into the same problem...

Razoola

21st March 2011, 18:00

I can definitely re-produce this behavior here. So maybe you should document this somewhere, as other users might run into the same problem...

Its probably for the same reason as aero stopping to work. Adding custom resolutions is very broken if your on nvidia hardware and using the option in the nvidia control panel. It has a great tendancy of limiting other resolutions to 16bit once you add a new resolution, that kills aero right there. This is a nvidia driver issue if your on nvidia gfx card and nvidia don't seem keen to fix it.

LoRd_MuldeR

21st March 2011, 18:02

Its probably for the same reason as aero stopping to work. Adding custom resolutions is very broken if your on nvidia hardware and using the option in the nvidia control panel. It has a great tendancy of limiting other resolutions to 16bit once you add a new resolution, that kills aero right there. This is a nvidia driver issue if your on nvidia gfx card and nvidia don't seem keen to fix it.

Sorry, if that wasn't clear, but I don't get any Aero Glass problems with the custom resolution.

The Aero Glass problem didn't start until I disabled the second monitor in the Windows device manager for testing purposes :rolleyes:

apatch

21st March 2011, 18:10

For some reason I cannot go to "fullscreen exclusive mode" anymore. I always get "exclusive mode failed" error message. Any ideas?

The log is here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?niamyrgruka4au7

Same problem here, cannot go to "fullscreen exclusive mode" in all players : mpc - hc, potplayer & kmplayer.

Last working version is 0.43, and reverthing to this one fixed my problem, both 0.45 and 0.47 when entering "fullscreen exclusive mode" result in error :
"madVR report:
- reseting Direct3D device failed (8876086c)"
or just hung the player.

Thanks for any response, and btw there's no way my rig can't candle this. ;)

madshi

21st March 2011, 18:24

Same problem here, cannot go to "fullscreen exclusive mode" in all players : mpc - hc, potplayer & kmplayer.

Last working version is 0.43, and reverthing to this one fixed my problem, both 0.45 and 0.47 when entering "fullscreen exclusive mode" result in error :
"madVR report:
- reseting Direct3D device failed (8876086c)"
or just hung the player.

Thanks for any response, and btw there's no way my rig can't candle this. ;)
Have you updated to the latest MPC-HC version (1.5.2.2988 or newer)? PotPlayer and kmplayer probably need an update to support the subtitle capability of madVR v0.45+.

apatch

21st March 2011, 19:03

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.27295 latest Beta version, my MPC -HC in fact is old, after update -fullscreen works but not in exclusive mode, KMPlayer is a dead player for me, no updates available since [2010/11/08] The KMPlayer 3.0.0.1439 Release. Potplayer is my main player and I think I found a walkaround.

This problems happend when something works in background OSD like : Ati Tray Tool -OSD FPS counter or in my case new TeamViewer 6, it has a fuction to switch your remote desktop view with another parter, this function adds a graphical menu button besides standard windows menu in this order : switch desktop, window minimize, windows maximize, close window. So when you close all TeamViewer6 windows, all problems are gone and madVR 0.47 works ok in all players.

This is an example, look at right up corner
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3069/madvrerror2.jpg

I'm using few displays too (in fact even few different connections to single display so it's complicated), but problem occours when single display using too.

tdoll

21st March 2011, 19:12

With every version higher than 0.36 Win7 switches to Basic Colour Sceme when the movie gets toggled to fullcreen. Actually I am using two screens, a monitor and plasma tv. I usually select D3D Mode if I want the movie to play fullscreen on the plasma. Otherwise I deselect D3D Mode and can watch the movie windowed on the PC-Monitor. This used to work perfect. But with all versions higher than 0.36 Aero ist turned off. On top of that the D3D Funktion in MPC-HC is not available any more.

I could need some help here. Are there any other ways of using madvr I am not aware of? Or am I missing something else?

madshi

21st March 2011, 19:17

This problems happend when something works in background OSD like : Ati Tray Tool -OSD FPS counter or in my case new TeamViewer 6, it has a fuction to switch your remote desktop view with another parter, this function adds a graphical menu button besides standard windows menu in this order : switch desktop, window minimize, windows maximize, close window. So when you close all TeamViewer6 windows, all problems are gone and madVR 0.47 works ok in all players.
Just to confirm: So the problem was not madVR v0.47 but some other software?

With every version higher than 0.36 Win7 switches to Basic Colour Sceme when the movie gets toggled to fullcreen. Actually I am using two screens, a monitor and plasma tv. I usually select D3D Mode if I want the movie to play fullscreen on the plasma. Otherwise I deselect D3D Mode and can watch the movie windowed on the PC-Monitor. This used to work perfect. But with all versions higher than 0.36 Aero ist turned off.
Newer madVR versions turn off Aero by default if the media player goes into fullscreen. You can disable this behaviour in the madVR settings dialog.

On top of that the D3D Funktion in MPC-HC is not available any more.
What did you need/use that for? I've removed it because I thought it would be useless.

tdoll

21st March 2011, 19:53

Newer madVR versions turn off Aero by default if the media player goes into fullscreen. You can disable this behaviour in the madVR settings dialog.

What did you need/use that for? I've removed it because I thought it would be useless.

Thanks! Found it and it works perfect. By the way why ist Aero turened off by default. I never realized any problems with Aero. However I must admit every once in a while I red that it might have a negative effect. For me it never was a problem.

I used the D3D Fullscreen feature to decide wether I want to play a movie in fullscreen on my second monitor (plasma tv) or in windowed mode on my first monitor (computer monitor). D3D turned on the movie played right away fullscreen on the plasma tv. turned off it played in a window on the computer monitor. Just perfect. Right now I even do not know how to start the movie from the computer monitor playing it on the plasma tv. The second good thing about playing the movie that was was that the mpc-hc window was still available on the computer monitor, ready to do all kind of menue adjustments.

On top of all that. Using mpc-hc, the only way to really get rid of tearing is to use the D3D function. I must admit, I do not really understand what it does. But I used it with various renderers and the only way to get rid of tearing was to switch the D3D function on.

Anyway, thanks for your help so far.

apatch

21st March 2011, 20:06

Just to confirm: So the problem was not madVR v0.47 but some other software?

Sorry but I don't see it that way. madVR 0.43 works with all software without problems, newer versions not, so I'm using this old version cause don't want to close TeamViewer6 or any other programs, I'm sure that are not the only ones but just wait for users report. I heard about similar problems with OSD, Ati Tray Tool + Steam (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1194042) , MSIAfterburner and few others. madVR is different than overlay and I'm not a technical guru but maybe there's a similar problem.

Hypernova

21st March 2011, 21:03

After watched some video for real instead of short testing last night I notice that
1. Sometimes, some lines did not show up.
2. When paused, the sub disappeared. Have to do quick double pause to (randomly) make it stay. I actually depends on this since a lot of time I paused the video to read the sub.

I haven't test with Haali yet. The first one is random so I don't have much hope for how to reproduce it. It happened enough to be noticeable though. Please let me know if there is any information I can give to be useful.

bjd

21st March 2011, 23:10

Just want to say thanks to Madshi for his continued development of MadVR. It is fantastic that Mpc-Hc internal subtitle renderer is supported and working really well.

The renderer has also made me assess every part of my HTPC such as chipset drivers, system memory performance and DDR timings. As a result I have been able to really optimise my system and squeeze out the last percentile of performance.

iSeries

21st March 2011, 23:27

Hi Madshi, thanks for adding sub support, really appreciated!

I calibrated my LCD TV (its the only display connected to my PC) with a Spyder3, using the Spyder3 utility software. When Windows loads it automatically loads LUT data from the ICC profile onto the graphics card. I don't really know what this means or what it's doing 'behind the scenes' so wondered if it in any way degrades MadVR image quality?

leeperry

21st March 2011, 23:35

I calibrated my monitor with a Spyder3, using the Spyder3 utility software. When Windows loads it automatically loads LUT data from the ICC profile onto the graphics card. I don't really know what this means or what it's doing 'behind the scenes' so wondered if it in any way degrades MadVR image quality?
Some ICC's do not use a LUT and require "color managed" applications. If you care about PQ, you may wanna give ARGYLLCMS a shot...it'll provide you w/ a much more accurate correction than the Spyder3 app ever will. You can also use Color.HCFR to spy on them afterwards.
That's ARGYLLCMS w/ a brand new i1lt(average ΔE lower than 1): http://thumbnails41.imagebam.com/12457/0970a2124563367.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0970a2124563367)

ARGYLLCMS uses 10bit CLUT's, so it definitely won't ruin mVR's job.

iSeries

21st March 2011, 23:48

The Spyder3 utility definitely loads a LUT after startup. From the log:

21/03/2011 19:56 - Load Video Card LUT for Generic PnP Monitor-1 from profile -- > C:\Windows\system32\spool\drivers\color\Spyder3Express.icm
21/03/2011 19:56 - The calibration data from the profile was SUCCESSFULLY LOADED into the video card.

Thanks for the suggestions, however I don't really want to get in to anything more complicated than putting the device on the screen and pressing 'Start', my OCD is bad enough as it is, and I don't need any more obsessions :)

leeperry

22nd March 2011, 00:46

The biggest PQ improvement you could experience is by using Argyll instead of the s3 app...double-check its poor correction using Color.HCFR and you'll see. Plus, the s3 sensor is pretty much blind in low IRE's, so it takes a lot of crossed measurements to get it OK'ish....and Color.HCFR will give you the proper R/G/B xy coordinates measurements, so you can map gamuts on the go in mVR.

Anyway, yeah...the rabbit hole always goes deeper :D

goldie

22nd March 2011, 05:03

On top of all that. Using mpc-hc, the only way to really get rid of tearing is to use the D3D function. I must admit, I do not really understand what it does. But I used it with various renderers and the only way to get rid of tearing was to switch the D3D function on.
AFAIK, madVR is always tearing-free whether D3D Fullscreen enabled or not,
so you can be assured to use madVR without it enabled. :rolleyes:

pirlouy

22nd March 2011, 08:23

AFAIK, madVR is always tearing-free whether D3D Fullscreen enabled or not,
so you can be assured to use madVR without it enabled. :rolleyes:
Nope. I need Exclusive mode in order not to get tearing. And I'm not the only one (i.e. I remember discussion about it in this thread).

fairchild

22nd March 2011, 09:11

Nope. I need Exclusive mode in order not to get tearing. And I'm not the only one (i.e. I remember discussion about it in this thread).

I think he may mean with FSE enabled (which is the default config of MadVR).

On my system Aero on = no tearing regardless of settings or renderer. Aero off = tearing unless you are using FSE + MadVR or the D3D fullscreen option + EVR-CP.

Hypernova

22nd March 2011, 09:31

madshi,

I've test with Haali and "2. When paused, the sub disappeared. Have to do quick double pause to (randomly) make it stay. I actually depends on this since a lot of time I paused the video to read the sub" does not happen with Haali renderer. The sub stayed just fine, so I think this one is madVR's.

goldie

22nd March 2011, 09:48

I think he may mean with FSE enabled (which is the default config of MadVR).
Nope. I need Exclusive mode in order not to get tearing. And I'm not the only one (i.e. I remember discussion about it in this thread).
Yes, I mean madVR in FSE mode, because I almost use it in FSE mode. Sorry, didn't help much.

VincAlastor

22nd March 2011, 11:11

thanks for madVR - the quality is amazing!
but i have one problem. mediaportal 1.2.0.0 uses as external player mpc-hc 1.5.2.2991 to play my videos. mpc-hc uses madVR 0.47 and ffdshow revision 3771. if the video starts mediaportal and mpc-hc change the frame rate mostly from 60 hz to 23,976 hz (23 hz). but the now playing video is stuttering in that case. i have to switch quickly one time between the fullscreen and windowed mode, then the stutter problem is solved. if i start the video directly with mpc-hc there is no stuttering at the beginning. there are just the known two or three heavy judder, when the refresh rate has to sync again, because of little differences between video frame rate and tv frame rate.
what should i change in the settings to prevent these problems? i'm sorry to ask you guys, but i could't find match howto's and help files/docs.

with mpc-hc's evr video renderer there is no stuttering, just the heavy judder two or three times. hardware config: nvidia 9800 gt, hdmi video pass to onkyo a/v-receiver and hdmi pass through to 24p compatible hdtv (it need a while to change the frame rate - it is a little bit older :D)

zeroo

22nd March 2011, 12:24

I get exclusive mode failed on the secondary monitor, too. On the primary everything is ok. I need the exclusive mode because that's the only case when the video doesn't stutter. I use MPC-HC 1.5.2993, CoreAVC and gtx460.

pawlol83

22nd March 2011, 13:21

Thanks for the sample. I can reproduce that madVR shows the subtitles too early. It's about 2 seconds on my PC, though and not 5 seconds. Furthermore with a different clip with different subtitles the problem does not occur. I don't know where the problem is coming from but the Haali Video Renderer shows exactly the same behaviour as madVR with both clips. So it seems to be a bug in MPC-HC and not in madVR. For your information: The Haali Video Renderer and madVR are using the same subtitle mechanism. EVR Custom uses a different mechanism. The solution used for EVR Custom can't be used for external renderers. I wish I could do more for you, but right now all I can say is that it seems to be a bug in MPC-HC and not in madVR.

Thank you for your help and information.

pdanpdan

22nd March 2011, 21:34

I also get exclusive mode failed, but only when the interface is on one monitor, and the movie starts there in window mode, and on fullscreen it moves on the other monitor.
If fullscreen is on the same monitor where the movie starts everything is ok.
Win 7 64, ATI HD2400, Cat 11.4, MPC-HC 1.5.2.2993

nevcairiel

22nd March 2011, 21:37

pdanpdan

22nd March 2011, 22:45

I thought that was only in earlier versions - because then it didn't work at all. Now it seems to work well except exclusive mode.

tdoll

23rd March 2011, 17:29

madshi has commented on that before, the player requires to be on the monitor you want playbacke *before* the file is opened.

With the D3D funktion I was able to start the fullscreen movie (running on the second monitor) from the first one. Wile playing the movie in fullscreen on the second monitor the application (mpc-hc) stayed open on the first monitor. You could even get into the menue and do stuff, like checking which filters are used. The movie on the other hand played perfecly smooth, no stutter or tearing at all.

It is too bad that in the latest versions of mpc-hc this funktion ist blocked out.

Win7 64bit and Radeon HD 5770.

madshi

23rd March 2011, 19:18

why ist Aero turened off by default. I never realized any problems with Aero. However I must admit every once in a while I red that it might have a negative effect. For me it never was a problem.
The main reason is that the switch between exclusive <-> windowed mode is noticeably quicker and nicer with Aero disabled. Of course it all depends on GPU and driver version and OS etc.

I used the D3D Fullscreen feature to decide wether I want to play a movie in fullscreen on my second monitor (plasma tv) or in windowed mode on my first monitor (computer monitor). D3D turned on the movie played right away fullscreen on the plasma tv. turned off it played in a window on the computer monitor. Just perfect. Right now I even do not know how to start the movie from the computer monitor playing it on the plasma tv. The second good thing about playing the movie that was was that the mpc-hc window was still available on the computer monitor, ready to do all kind of menue adjustments.
Ok, I understand.

Sorry but I don't see it that way. madVR 0.43 works with all software without problems, newer versions not, so I'm using this old version cause don't want to close TeamViewer6 or any other programs
I was just double checking to make sure I understood you correctly. Ok, which setting in TeamViewer6 do I have to activate to reproduce the problem on my PC?

After watched some video for real instead of short testing last night I notice that
1. Sometimes, some lines did not show up.
Can you describe it in a bit more detail? E.g. when it happens, is it always only one line that is missing? Or does the "missing" problem last for a while, maybe a couple of seconds or so? Also, is it in the middle of playback that this problem occurs? Or directly after a seek? Do subtitles flicker before/during/after this problem, or is the "look" stable, just something is missing? Anything else worth reporting about this problem? If you can reproduce it at least sometimes, can you double check this with Haali?

2. When paused, the sub disappeared.
Yes, I've noticed that myself. I don't know yet if I can fix it with the current render chain. I plan to modify the rendering chain in a couple of weeks, fixing problems like "subtitles draw over the madVR GUI" etc. After that this problem should definitely be fixed. Maybe I can fix it before then, not sure right now.

mediaportal 1.2.0.0 uses as external player mpc-hc 1.5.2.2991 to play my videos. mpc-hc uses madVR 0.47 and ffdshow revision 3771. if the video starts mediaportal and mpc-hc change the frame rate mostly from 60 hz to 23,976 hz (23 hz). but the now playing video is stuttering in that case. i have to switch quickly one time between the fullscreen and windowed mode, then the stutter problem is solved.
In the situation when the stuttering occurs: Does it continue to stutter forever (until you do something to stop it)? Is madVR in exclusive mode at that moment? Which OS are you on? Do you let madVR disable Aero in fullscreen mode? If the problem occurs in windowed mode, what does the madVR OSD say about Aero composition rate (if Aero is enabled)?

I get exclusive mode failed on the secondary monitor, too. On the primary everything is ok.
Do you move the media player to the secondary monitor before loading the video file?