madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[SecurityBunny]

Ok. In some situations the default location might be ok. But often it is not. E.g. look here, playing a DVD (using an LAV test build with the new LAV DVD subtitle export to madVR) with MPC-HC with the "notify media player" zoom control option activated:

default position (http://madVR.com/doom9/stuff/MpcNotifyDefault.png) - | - move up = down (http://madVR.com/doom9/stuff/MpcNotifyMove.png)

Or here with the "notify media player" zoom control option deactivated:

default position (http://madVR.com/doom9/stuff/MpcDefault.png) - | - move up (http://madVR.com/doom9/stuff/MpcMoveUp.png) - | - move down (http://madVR.com/doom9/stuff/MpcMoveDown.png)

Isn't any of the move options always better (in this example at least)? I think having one subtitle line in the active video area and one subtitle line in the black bar is rather bad, and it happens quite often with the standard location.

Ah, I can definitely see the advantage of the feature in that example. Fortunately for the content I watch, I don't require subtitles to be moved and in fact find it a bit displacing when it is due to moving my peripheral vision to keep up with the video and read subtitles at the same time.

Fullscreen Normal (http://i.imgur.com/EJE10m6.jpg) - Fullscreen Bottom (http://i.imgur.com/5OT0Ahb.jpg)
Half-screen Normal (http://i.imgur.com/ewUSoUq.jpg) - Half-screen Bottom (http://i.imgur.com/rqj8QHY.jpg)

Since I don't really watch any content where subtitles aren't already inside the video frame, I don't personally require the need to move subtitles into the active video area. I'd rather save the process calculation time if it is all the same.

[har3inger]

Just a quick question: when SuperRes under image enhancements gets updates, is superchromares also getting updated? If not, is the superres filter for chroma at all recommended, given how it's based off the old iteration of SuperRes that got scrapped?

[XMonarchY]

SO SuperRes Linear Light option is there to prevent brightness increase? Is that something I'd want for better quality pictures or for better accuracy? I use NNEDI3 + SuperRes Chroma Upscaling + SuperRes Image Refinement.

[zvans18]

R9 390, Windows 10

same here, win 8.1 and GTX 970

happens with BE and HC (but unless it's my imagination it seems slightly better in HC)

EDIT: retested after reboot and it isn't happening with either player. i'll see if it happens again in the future, but it was happening for at least a few releases

[nijiko]

What's wrong with 89.11? When playing video, computer is fully dead, hang up.

[nijiko]

The fucking death make me lost all my work on the desktop!!! I never know a video filter can make computer die!!!

[nijiko]

I can't find 89.10, and 89.9 is normal. What change between 89.9 and 89.11?

[Asmodian]

I can't find 89.10, and 89.9 is normal. What change between 89.9 and 89.11?

Both are on the previous page.

madVR v0.89.10 released

http://madshi.net/madVR.zip

* added SuperRes "sharpness" and "use linear light" options
* optimized SuperRes performance with high "strength" values
* modified subtitle mover to not change subtitle size, anymore
* added "zoom control" option to move subtitles
* added support for LAV DVD subtitle renderer
* fixed: XySubFilter: high-res PGS with smaller-res video: wrong sub position
* fixed: crash when LAV DVD subtitle renderer asked for a flush/clear
* fixed: Smooth Motion + NNEDI3 + Bilinear could cause aliasing artifacts
* fixed: #318: debanding sometimes caused black screen (once more)
XySubFilter users, please test madVR v0.89.10 with the new XySubFilter 745 build:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=168282


madVR v0.89.11 released

http://madshi.net/madVR.zip

* fixed stupid video size bug introduced in v0.89.10

[foxyshadis]

What's wrong with 89.11? When playing video, computer is fully dead, hang up.

The fucking death make me lost all my work on the desktop!!! I never know a video filter can make computer die!!!

Welcome to video driver bugs? It's not MadVR's fault, but it does use more of the driver than anything but games. Since you can lose everything at practically anytime anyway, if the power dies or anything else locks it up, you should always be autosaving. Computers suck.

[THEAST]

madVR flashes frame from the future (probably last in the queue) on frame step. Not on every one, but very often. It looks like that Frame1->Flashes Frame (something from the queue)->Frame2 it is easily reproducible with MPC-HC and CTRL+left arrow to frame step. Seems to happen only with DX11. Here is log http://1drv.ms/1MswFTV

I think you're experiencing what I reported two times before in this thread but nobody else confirmed it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1714313#post1714313
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1728827#post1728827

I can confirm this only happens with Smooth Motion enabled and is easily reproducible with WMV and AVI files. Detailed info has been provided in my previous reports.

[sneaker_ger]

I can't find 89.10, and 89.9 is normal. What change between 89.9 and 89.11?
The fucking death make me lost all my work on the desktop!!! I never know a video filter can make computer die!!!
Welcome to video driver bugs? It's not MadVR's fault, but it does use more of the driver than anything but games. Since you can lose everything at practically anytime anyway, if the power dies or anything else locks it up, you should always be autosaving. Computers suck.
Yesterday mpc-hc leaked lots of memory here. I did not yet (will do later) take a closer look but it was after I upgraded madvr. Did you maybe run out of RAM?

[dimitrik]

i just want to confirm one thing about the doubling/quadrupling functions: my understanding is that they work in sequence, not independently.

I.e. the doubling algorithm is applied first, and then if there is scope for quadrupling (depending on the scaling factor and settings) the quad algorithm is applied.

Or is the quad algorithm applied directly, if the scaling factor is such, skipping the doubling algo?

I think it's the first, but am not 100% sure.

[madshi]

.ASS looks good. PGS from a bluray is blurry. It's not even the same font as the .ASS. But the filters say xy->madVR.
PGS are bitmap subtitles. madVR does not know which text is in such subtitles. It's all just pixels. So all madVR can do is draw them onto the original video image (before upscaling) and then upscale the subtitle bitmaps together with the video. Which will of course be much blurrier than rendering text (SRT, ASS) subtitles in the final resolution of the upscaled video. If you want sharp subtitles, you'll have to use some subtitle tool to convert PGS to SRT or ASS.

At first the move subtitles wasn't working for me. Then it started to work. But it messes up when scrubbing through the video. With my .ASS sample it starts at the bottom if I have it selected, but if I scrub a bit then it goes higher up.
You probably have not updated XySubFilter to build 745 yet, have you?

Ah, I can definitely see the advantage of the feature in that example. Fortunately for the content I watch, I don't require subtitles to be moved and in fact find it a bit displacing when it is due to moving my peripheral vision to keep up with the video and read subtitles at the same time.

Fullscreen Normal (http://i.imgur.com/EJE10m6.jpg) - Fullscreen Bottom (http://i.imgur.com/5OT0Ahb.jpg)
Half-screen Normal (http://i.imgur.com/ewUSoUq.jpg) - Half-screen Bottom (http://i.imgur.com/rqj8QHY.jpg)

Since I don't really watch any content where subtitles aren't already inside the video frame, I don't personally require the need to move subtitles into the active video area. I'd rather save the process calculation time if it is all the same.
Ok, I understand. Was just wondering...

Just a quick question: when SuperRes under image enhancements gets updates, is superchromares also getting updated? If not, is the superres filter for chroma at all recommended, given how it's based off the old iteration of SuperRes that got scrapped?
No, SuperChromaRes has not been updated for quite a while. Although it's based on the same principle, it's a different algorithm, and it's still on my to do list to look into.

SO SuperRes Linear Light option is there to prevent brightness increase? Is that something I'd want for better quality pictures or for better accuracy? I use NNEDI3 + SuperRes Chroma Upscaling + SuperRes Image Refinement.
In theory you should uncheck "Linear Light" if the video you're playing has been downscaled by the studio by using gamma light (which is what most studios do, I suppose). And you should activate "Linear Light" if the video you're playing has been downscaled by the studio by using linear light - or if you're playing a video that hasn't been downscaled by the studio at all. Since it's very hard to know what the studio did, I can't really tell you which way to set that option. I prefer it unchecked, others prefer it checked. Unchecked thins black lines a bit, but may introduce a little bit of aliasing. So simply try and use what looks better to your eyes.

What's wrong with 89.11? When playing video, computer is fully dead, hang up.
I doubt it has much to do with 89.11. Probably the same would have happened with 89.9. This is probably a GPU driver or even OS problem, or a hardware problem.

Yesterday mpc-hc leaked lots of memory here. I did not yet (will do later) take a closer look but it was after I upgraded madvr. Did you maybe run out of RAM?
Oh, that would be ugly. Can you double check whether you can reproduce that problem, and whether it's a new problem introduced by madVR or by the latest MPC-HC build or by the GPU driver, maybe? There was an AMD beta driver recently which leaked lots of (GPU?) RAM.

i just want to confirm one thing about the doubling/quadrupling functions: my understanding is that they work in sequence, not independently.
Correct.

[dimitrik]

I'd try NNEDI3 64 for doubling + super-xbr 75 quadrupling.

Thanks, I'll give that a try. Could be a good mix between the softness of nnedi and the sharpness of super-xbr.

By the way, I have been thinking that because everyone is so keen on getting sharp pictures, we've got to a point where we accept too many artifacts, ringing and other distortions.

In in many cases, a softer image may in fact be a better option; we have to accept that compromises exist when upscaling and it's up to us, to set the balance between different aspects of the PQ.

It would be nice if we had a high quality deblocking filter that doesn't overly soften the image, but gets rid of some of these artifacts. I think as resolutions get higher (4K) this will be more useful, especially for lower quality SD sources.

[chros]

That's all technically possible, but I have rather limited development resources. I'll think about it, but the end result in the short term will probably be a *very* simple (and maybe somewhat ugly) solution. If you have a good idea for something like that, which I could implement in just a couple of minutes, let me know.
I can't help you with that (I'm not a C++ dev :( ), but you can ask the MPC-HC/BE dev teams, I think they are smart enough for that :)

Just a quick question: when SuperRes under image enhancements gets updates, is superchromares also getting updated? If not, is the superres filter for chroma at all recommended, given how it's based off the old iteration of SuperRes that got scrapped?
I'm against it at its current state, I made couple of screenshots around 1-2 week(s) ago, where you could easily see the unwanted modifications on the picture by it.

[aufkrawall]

In theory you should uncheck "Linear Light" if the video you're playing has been downscaled by the studio by using gamma light (which is what most studios do, I suppose). And you should activate "Linear Light" if the video you're playing has been downscaled by the studio by using linear light - or if you're playing a video that hasn't been downscaled by the studio at all. Since it's very hard to know what the studio did, I can't really tell you which way to set that option. I prefer it unchecked, others prefer it checked. Unchecked thins black lines a bit, but may introduce a little bit of aliasing. So simply try and use what looks better to your eyes.

Gamma correct also increases the brightness in the case of SuperRes in a noticeable way (independent from the source?), at least if you choose a sharpness option > 2.
I upscaled the brightness sensitive image you posted here to 1440p via Jinc AR:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1740010&postcount=38

No SR:
http://abload.de/thumb/nosrwqk0v.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=nosrwqk0v.png)

Strength 2, sharpness 3, no LL:
http://abload.de/thumb/llofflxj7b.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=llofflxj7b.png)

LL:
http://abload.de/thumb/llonnkjgn.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=llonnkjgn.png)

I also noticed the brightness increase without LL in other videos from the web.
So, if one wants to use SR as a sharpener , I think it's a good idea to use linear light.

[ashlar42]

madVR v0.89.10 released

http://madshi.net/madVR.zip

[code]* added SuperRes "sharpness" and "use linear light" options
* optimized SuperRes performance with high "strength" values
Hi madshi, you're on a winning streak! ;)

I wanted to ask you, concerning the above, is it expected to get seriously improved performance when, in "upscaling refinement" moving from SuperRes 3 to SuperRes 4? Is this what you are referring to when talking about "high strength"?

Previously SR wasn't impacting too much until 3, but 4 had a serious jump in computational power used. At least for me...

[kasper93]

I think you're experiencing what I reported two times before in this thread but nobody else confirmed it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1714313#post1714313
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1728827#post1728827

I can confirm this only happens with Smooth Motion enabled and is easily reproducible with WMV and AVI files. Detailed info has been provided in my previous reports.
Nope. SM is not related. I can reproduce without it.

[nijiko]

Welcome to video driver bugs? It's not MadVR's fault, but it does use more of the driver than anything but games. Since you can lose everything at practically anytime anyway, if the power dies or anything else locks it up, you should always be autosaving. Computers suck.

Because this old computer is for downloading, so the OS is still XP since 2006 without installing new OS, and driver is out at 2014.4 and not updated by ATI.

My computer is running well all the way before 89.11.

Yesterday mpc-hc leaked lots of memory here. I did not yet (will do later) take a closer look but it was after I upgraded madvr. Did you maybe run out of RAM?

Maybe? When I run MPC-HC, computer immediately being slowly to be idle in only 3 seconds. Each time. So, I can't do anything to check.

I doubt it has much to do with 89.11. Probably the same would have happened with 89.9. This is probably a GPU driver or even OS problem, or a hardware problem.

My computer is running MPC-HC 181 + LAV 66.0.26 + madVR 89.11/89.9, OS is XP SP3 with all patch, videocard is AMD ATI HD4850 with 14.4.

I'am the only one happenning this problem?

[clsid]

Did your computer freeze or did it reboot (BSoD)? Any details in the Windows Event Log?

[ibius]

Hi madshi,

I have a sample from an HDTV cap that SM FRC has trouble with, maybe you can improve it's behavior.
With the latest MPC-HCx64, madVR and LAV, in the first 5 seconds there's heavy frame jumping/repeating and after that it plays fine, disabling SM fixes issue at the start.
I tried different decoding modes in LAV to no avail, but madVR's rendering path made a difference.
The issue above only happens as described with D3D9 new path, with Overlay and D3D11 it's almost gone, and there's still something going on (huge rendering time spikes etc).
When tested with MPC-BEx64 and it's internal decoder the issue isn't as bad, but doesn't stop after 5 seconds and keeps occurring till the end.

Sample (http://wikisend.com/download/792446/King.Kong.2005.1080p.Open.Matte.HDTV.DD5.1.h264-Silu.mkv)

Win8.1 x64, Nvidia, Eizo 60Hz 8-bit.

[nijiko]

Did your computer freeze or did it reboot (BSoD)? Any details in the Windows Event Log?

No BSoD, only freezed, fully freezed. Press mouse or keyboard then system beep, and no event logs.

[ikarad]

madVR v0.89.10 released

http://madshi.net/madVR.zip

[code]* added SuperRes "sharpness" and "use linear light" options
* optimized SuperRes performance with high "strength" values
* modified subtitle mover to not change subtitle size, anymore
* added "zoom control" option to move subtitles
* added support for LAV DVD subtitle renderer
* fixed: XySubFilter: high-res PGS with smaller-res video: wrong sub position
* fixed: crash when LAV DVD subtitle renderer asked for a flush/clear

What is lav dvd subtitle renderer?

[sneaker_ger]

Oh, that would be ugly. Can you double check whether you can reproduce that problem, and whether it's a new problem introduced by madVR or by the latest MPC-HC build or by the GPU driver, maybe? There was an AMD beta driver recently which leaked lots of (GPU?) RAM.
It seems to have been introduced between 0.89.9 and 0.89.10. I was running Catalyst 15.7, now upgraded to 15.10 beta but it does not make a difference. I have reset settings to absolute defaults. I start a small video at 100% zoom (windowed). As long as the zoom stays the same the RAM usage does not seem to grow much but when I start maximizing the window, then go back to 100% zoom, then maximize again, then go back to 100% ... the usage keeps growing and growing.

I created a (huge!) log if it helps:
1. open at 100%, wait for RAM to stabilize
2. maximize, then go 100% again
3. wait for RAM to stabilize
4. maximize, then go 100% again
5. wait for RAM to stabilize
...
http://217.160.126.132/madVR_mem_leak_log.7z
At the end of the 2.5 minute 480p video MPC-HC was at 1.5 GB RAM.

Anyone know which Catalyst versions exactly had the mem leak problem?

[aufkrawall]

Catalyst 15.9. There was a fix for this with 15.9.1, but maybe it's not fully fixed or there is another problem.

[Asmodian]

What is lav dvd subtitle renderer?

A very new (released last night?) feature of LAV filters.

[madshi]

Gamma correct also increases the brightness in the case of SuperRes in a noticeable way (independent from the source?), at least if you choose a sharpness option > 2.
Oh, ok, didn't really expect that, but I guess it makes sense.

I wanted to ask you, concerning the above, is it expected to get seriously improved performance when, in "upscaling refinement" moving from SuperRes 3 to SuperRes 4? Is this what you are referring to when talking about "high strength"?

Previously SR wasn't impacting too much until 3, but 4 had a serious jump in computational power used. At least for me...
You're not saying strength 4 is faster than strength 3, are you? It's not supposed to be that way, if that's what you're saying.

Yes, the performance optimization mostly benefits high strength settings. The previous madVR build got very slow when using high strength. The latest build should still lose some performance when turning up strength, but far less.

I have a sample from an HDTV cap that SM FRC has trouble with, maybe you can improve it's behavior.
With the latest MPC-HCx64, madVR and LAV, in the first 5 seconds there's heavy frame jumping/repeating and after that it plays fine, disabling SM fixes issue at the start.
I tried different decoding modes in LAV to no avail, but madVR's rendering path made a difference.
The issue above only happens as described with D3D9 new path, with Overlay and D3D11 it's almost gone, and there's still something going on (huge rendering time spikes etc).
When tested with MPC-BEx64 and it's internal decoder the issue isn't as bad, but doesn't stop after 5 seconds and keeps occurring till the end.

Sample (http://wikisend.com/download/792446/King.Kong.2005.1080p.Open.Matte.HDTV.DD5.1.h264-Silu.mkv)

Win8.1 x64, Nvidia, Eizo 60Hz 8-bit.
Ok, will have a look at that later...

It seems to have been introduced between 0.89.9 and 0.89.10. I was running Catalyst 15.7, now upgraded to 15.10 beta but it does not make a difference. I have reset settings to absolute defaults. I start a small video at 100% zoom (windowed). As long as the zoom stays the same the RAM usage does not seem to grow much but when I start maximizing the window, then go back to 100% zoom, then maximize again, then go back to 100% ... the usage keeps growing and growing.

I created a (huge!) log if it helps:
1. open at 100%, wait for RAM to stabilize
2. maximize, then go 100% again
3. wait for RAM to stabilize
4. maximize, then go 100% again
5. wait for RAM to stabilize
...
http://217.160.126.132/madVR_mem_leak_log.7z
At the end of the 2.5 minute 480p video MPC-HC was at 1.5 GB RAM.
Strange. I've checked my code and on a quick check I can't find anything that would explain a difference in RAM consumption between v0.88.9 and v0.88.10. Are you using XySubFilter? If so, can you check whether the same problem occurs with the MPC-HC internal subtitle renderer?

[sneaker_ger]

Yesterday I had the problem using ISR, I turned it off and played a video without subtitles to rule that out today. (I do have XySubFilter 746 installed, though.)

[kasper93]

Could you tell what problems you had with ISR, thanks.

[sneaker_ger]

What I meant: the problem happens with and without ISR, i.e. ISR is not the problem.

[kasper93]

Oh, ok. I though you had different issue with ISR and you disabled it. :)

[tahaa7]

I just noticed something interesting: when I watch a video in MPC-HC in windowed (non-Exclusive) mode, madvr seems not to be using GPU acceleration, and the CPU usage is 90-100%, while the GPU is at 10% or less. This of course reflects itself in video stuttering. However, when I switch to fullscreen exclusive mode and monitor CPU and GPU usage, it then becomes more like 50-50.

Is there a specific reason for that? Is that expected behaviour?

[madshi]

Yesterday I had the problem using ISR, I turned it off and played a video without subtitles to rule that out today. (I do have XySubFilter 746 installed, though.)
And you can 100% reproduce the problem with v0.89.11, but not at all with v0.89.9, without using XySubFilter, is that correct?

I just noticed something interesting: when I watch a video in MPC-HC in windowed (non-Exclusive) mode, madvr seems not to be using GPU acceleration, and the CPU usage is 90-100%, while the GPU is at 10% or less. This of course reflects itself in video stuttering. However, when I switch to fullscreen exclusive mode and monitor CPU and GPU usage, it then becomes more like 50-50.

Is there a specific reason for that? Is that expected behaviour?
Sounds strange. Has that always been that way? Or is it a new problem? Are you using software decoding or copyback or native hardware decoding? What GPU? OS? This is not an Optimus system, is it?

[sneaker_ger]

And you can 100% reproduce the problem with v0.89.11, but not at all with v0.89.9, without using XySubFilter, is that correct?
Correct. (video has no subtitles to begin with, ISR is off, I even uninstalled XySubFilter to make sure just now)

I'm not using Aero. (In case it makes a difference)

[Knight77]

I can't help you with that (I'm not a C++ dev :( ), but you can ask the MPC-HC/BE dev teams, I think they are smart enough for that :)


I'm against it at its current state, I made couple of screenshots around 1-2 week(s) ago, where you could easily see the unwanted modifications on the picture by it.
Are you suggesting to do not use Superres in chroma upscaling? Just to understand. What about image refinement in case of image not upscaled (I.e. 1080p>1080p)? Which refinement do you suggest ?

Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

[Arm3nian]

You probably have not updated XySubFilter to build 745 yet, have you?

Na, that was on 745. I also noticed with double lined subs, when the video frame is set to normal on a larger resolution screen (1080 on 4k), one line is on the edge on the bottom of the video frame instead of inside, and one is in the black bars. Looks a bit weird.

[madshi]

Correct. (video has no subtitles to begin with, ISR is off, I even uninstalled XySubFilter to make sure just now)

I'm not using Aero. (In case it makes a difference)
I've tried to reproduce it here. I've reset madVR to default settings. Then I've played a NTSC DVD with DXVA deinterlacing and software decoding, switching back and forth between windowed and fullscreen playback (both FSE and windowed maximized). RAM consumption seems to be stable here. We're talking CPU RAM, not GPU RAM, right? Can you also try with default madVR settings and a DVD, so we do the same tests? If you can't reproduce the problem that way, either, could you please find out where the difference is between a setup that produces the problem and a setup which doesn't?

At first the move subtitles wasn't working for me. Then it started to work. But it messes up when scrubbing through the video. With my .ASS sample it starts at the bottom if I have it selected, but if I scrub a bit then it goes higher up.
What exactly do you mean with "scrub"? It's not a term I'm familiar with in the context of video playback. Which subtitle move setting do you have selected? Can I have a sample of the video you have this problem with, and step-by-step guide to reproduce the problem with that sample?

[dansrfe]

Screenshot and sample, please! :)

Vobsub problem sample cut:
http://expirebox.com/download/556b09503c5358055a1f823043bca9e3.html

Can't get the screenshot with the subtitles in FSE/overlay/windowed.

[sneaker_ger]

We're talking CPU RAM, not GPU RAM, right?
Correct.

Can you also try with default madVR settings and a DVD, so we do the same tests?
I don't have any NTSC DVD at hand.
I used that sample:
wget -U quicktime http://movietrailers.apple.com/movies/paramount/missionimpossibleroguenation/missionimpossibleroguenation-tlr2_h480p.mov
(I can upload it somewhere if you don't have wget)

[madshi]

Vobsub problem sample cut:
http://expirebox.com/download/556b09503c5358055a1f823043bca9e3.html

Can't get the screenshot with the subtitles in FSE/overlay/windowed.
What should I see with that sample? It seems to work fine here, either with or without "move subtitles" enabled.

I don't have any NTSC DVD at hand.
I used that sample:
wget -U quicktime http://movietrailers.apple.com/movies/paramount/missionimpossibleroguenation/missionimpossibleroguenation-tlr2_h480p.mov
(I can upload it somewhere if you don't have wget)
Have you tried with madVR reset to default settings? Are we talking about CPU RAM or GPU RAM? How are you measuring RAM consumption? And which RAM consumption numbers do you get with v0.89.9 and v0.89.11? Thanks!

[Arm3nian]

What exactly do you mean with "scrub"? It's not a term I'm familiar with in the context of video playback. Which subtitle move setting do you have selected? Can I have a sample of the video you have this problem with, and step-by-step guide to reproduce the problem with that sample?

I mean jumping to different parts of the video. Remember the crash involving smooth motion? Like that.

The anime I tested with is 1080 with no black bars, so it takes up the full screen when upscaled to 4k, I guess a 1080 screen with a 1080 source would also work. When I have "to the bottom of the screen/window" selected and I start the video, the subtitles start on the very bottom as expected. But if I jump around, the subtitles move north, and end up where the subtitles would be if I had selected "into active video area". So I guess you could say the first option in 'move subtitles' doesn't work correctly.

[sneaker_ger]

Have you tried with madVR reset to default settings?
Yes. (But as I said I don't use Aero, which means "Old Path" windowed mode)

Are we talking about CPU RAM or GPU RAM?
CPU RAM

How are you measuring RAM consumption?
Looking at the MPC-HC process in the Windows Task Manager.

And which RAM consumption numbers do you get with v0.89.9 and v0.89.11? Thanks!
0.89.9: at start goes to 330k and stays about there no matter what I do
0.89.11: at start goes to 330k, then after first max.->min. to 580k, 2nd max.->min. to 820k and just keeps on growing with roughly that speed to 1G, 2G...

[aufkrawall]

Could someone please do me a favor and post a profile rule which activates a profile via a certain scalingFactor.x/y value?

[ashlar42]

You're not saying strength 4 is faster than strength 3, are you? It's not supposed to be that way, if that's what you're saying.

Yes, the performance optimization mostly benefits high strength settings. The previous madVR build got very slow when using high strength. The latest build should still lose some performance when turning up strength, but far less.
No, I'm saying that going from 3 to 4 previously absolutely killed performance, while now is far more affordable. Good job! :)

[Arm3nian]

Could someone please do me a favor and post a profile rule which activates a profile via a certain scalingFactor.x/y value?
What do you want the rule to do?
I'm guessing generally you would want something like this:
if (scalingFactor.x >= 1.2) and (scalingFactor.y >= 1.2) "Profile 1"
else "Profile 2"

[agustin9]

The subtitle margin changes with scale using XySubFilter, not with the internal mpc engine.

Example:
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2moz15l.jpg
http://oi62.tinypic.com/2e3sx9v.jpg

I'm using madvr 0.89.11 and XySubFilter 3.1.0.746...
Thanks!

[baii]

What do you want the rule to do?
I'm guessing generally you would want something like this:
if (scalingFactor.x >= 1.2) and (scalingFactor.y >= 1.2) "Profile 1"
else "Profile 2"

Could someone please do me a favor and post a profile rule which activates a profile via a certain scalingFactor.x/y value?
The scaling factor rule don't work properly last I tried.

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[Arm3nian]

The scaling factor rule don't work properly last I tried.

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Worked fine for me. Most likely an error in your script. There's a little green check mark that comes up when it thinks everything is correct.

[zvans18]

i actually do have a problem i can't seem to resolve on my own: for a few releases automatic refresh rate changing hasn't worked. it's not a big deal as the only thing it helps with is 25 fps (i have 50, 60, and 66 profiles in nvidia settings) which i don't watch often. all that happens is occasionally the screen will flicker after player close, if it happens at all

doesn't matter if i use dx9 or 11, fse or not, switch on playback start or fullscreen

win 8.1, gtx 970, 358.50 drivers, MPC-BE x64 1.4.5 787, madvr 89.11, lav 66

i don't want to nuke madvr settings because of how many profiles i have, but will if it's the only fix, i've been overwrite installing madvr since somewhere in late 87.x (whatever the first KCP x64 used)

followup question: what's a good rule of thumb for fresh installing, other than 'when weird stuff starts happening'?

[AngelGraves13]

I switched to the internal subtitle renderer in MPC-BE and all problems are gone.