BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[DK]

What do you mean by output size?

The final size of the "new" movie data.

Like e.g. 24gb instead of 25gb or 7gb and not 8gb.

[JBear]

@jdobbs

we all have the same error with the same movie:gladiator

it's splitted in multiple m2ts.

@+
the patriot was similar to this i believe, but i dont recall multiple mpls files pointed at the same m2ts files like they are for gladiator.

[PurpleMan]

Interesting. It's only about 5 lines of code in that section. Everything is system calls to get a list the subdirectories in a folder. If you can provide me the name of a disc that causes the error I will chase it down.

Are all of you using Windows 7? It's possible it could be a new bug introduced in the system call for that O/S...

Are you using a USB attached hard drive? I remember running into a similar issue with a bad driver in the past.

I'm using Windows 7. But I'm not sure if it's a win7 issue, as I've been using bd-rb every single day for the past 30 days (on different discs) and this is the only disc that gave me this problem.

[leChameleon]

I have one machine for a few days... I've installed Win XP Pro (32-bit), SP3 + updates, BD-RB 0.28.04, ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid.exe, Matroska..., Avisynth_257.exe and WMP 11 as well. Changed ffdshow VC-1=wmv9 (didn't see option for wmv11).

Intel i7 940, 3GB RAM, etc...


SPY GAME (2001), REGION A, BD-RB LOG FILE
-------------------------------------------------------
[10:02:20] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: SPY_GAME
- Input BD size: 35.59 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:44:05.535]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[10:02:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:02:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [10:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 15)
- [10:16:36] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 182,184 frames
- Bitrate: 14,153 Kbs
- [10:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:47:05] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:35:35] Video Encode complete
- [16:35:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:35:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:44:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00056]
- [16:44:57] Reencoding: VID_00056 (2 of 15)
- [16:44:57] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 7,200 frames
- Bitrate: 3,289 Kbs
- [16:44:57] Reencoding: VID_00056, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:52:47] Reencoding: VID_00056, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:07:47] Video Encode complete
- [17:07:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:07:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:07:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
- [17:07:51] Reencoding: VID_00061 (3 of 15)
- [17:07:51] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,296 frames
- Bitrate: 3,836 Kbs
- [17:07:51] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:09:41] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:14:53] Video Encode complete
- [17:14:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:14:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:14:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [17:14:58] Reencoding: VID_00062 (4 of 15)
- [17:14:58] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,560 frames
- Bitrate: 5,868 Kbs
- [17:14:58] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:17:24] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:25:25] Video Encode complete
- [17:25:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:25:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:25:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [17:25:30] Reencoding: VID_00078 (5 of 15)
- [17:25:30] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,128 frames
- Bitrate: 3,796 Kbs
- [17:25:30] Reencoding: VID_00078, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:27:06] Reencoding: VID_00078, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:31:33] Video Encode complete
- [17:31:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:31:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:31:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00084]
- [17:31:37] Reencoding: VID_00084 (6 of 15)
- [17:31:37] Collecting video information
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps, 1,431 frames
- Bitrate: 2,332 Kbs
- [17:31:37] Reencoding: VID_00084, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[17:31:39] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any ideas what would cause this to fail? The size of VID_00084 is 27.81 MB. Do I need to set MIN_SIZE here? Quicker Encodes was disabled.

Man 32-bit is so much slower when testing Highest encode... Other encodes are not too bad.

[Capsbackup]

I have one machine for a few days... I've installed Win XP Pro (32-bit), SP3 + updates, BD-RB 0.28.04, ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid.exe, Matroska..., Avisynth_257.exe and WMP 11 as well. Changed ffdshow VC-1=wmv9 (didn't see option for wmv11).



ffdshow VC-1 = disabled if you want WMV11.

[Kakashi Sensei]

the patriot was similar to this i believe, but i dont recall multiple mpls files pointed at the same m2ts files like they are for gladiator.

Check the BDMV folder, I heard this release didn't have a AUXDATA folder that was causing some problems. Mine has was missing it as well. Going to test this out.

[shamoo]

Hello all, i have backed up 2 blu-rays with no problems, i went to back up Iron-Man when i got an error. there is 2 problems that keep occurring, one is the error message:
"Failed to build structure, aborted"
and the second one is for some reason whilst using BD rebuilder it is backing it up twice, so i have 2 20gb files? look at the image,
in the TMP folder is the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folder, why do i have the rest?

Also just to ask, the 1st time it did this the misses closed it down saying it was complete, i burned it using imgburn, and although the folders and movies is on the disk it doesn't play. is this to do with the error?

[jdobbs]

Hello all, i have backed up 2 blu-rays with no problems, i went to back up Iron-Man when i got an error. there is 2 problems that keep occurring, one is the error message:
"Failed to build structure, aborted"
and the second one is for some reason whilst using BD rebuilder it is backing it up twice, so i have 2 20gb files? look at the image,
in the TMP folder is the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folder, why do i have the rest?

Also just to ask, the 1st time it did this the misses closed it down saying it was complete, i burned it using imgburn, and although the folders and movies is on the disk it doesn't play. is this to do with the error? I don't think your source is not the original commercial disc (implying it has been preprocessed) or is corrupt. My copy of Iron Man has 99 M2TS files on disc one and 37 on disc two. The reason that concerns me is that in most cases like this the preprocessing is the likely cause of any errors.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Yup i'm getting the same error as the above people on Gladiator.

[shamoo]

i used BD rebuilder on the file after i used TsMuxer to take out all the stuff i didn't need, it went from 43.9gb to 29.7, does this help at all?

[jdobbs]

Yup i'm getting the same error as the above people on Gladiator. Unfortunately I've apparently loaned my copy of Gladiator to somebody (I guess I'm going to have to get myself a bar-code checkout system :)), either that or I've misplaced it in a recent move. I'll dig around some more...

[Kakashi Sensei]

Even with that error though it looks like all the files are being seen by BD-RB. I'm going to run it through tonight and see if I get a successful backup.

[PurpleMan]

Even with that error though it looks like all the files are being seen by BD-RB. I'm going to run it through tonight and see if I get a successful backup.

Don't bother. I tried it, it encoded everything, but rebuilding of bd-structure (last stage) failed (for no obvious reason)

[Capsbackup]

i used BD rebuilder on the file after i used TsMuxer to take out all the stuff i didn't need, it went from 43.9gb to 29.7, does this help at all?

Yes, that means you pre-processed the disc first. Try BD-RB on the original ripped Blu-Ray only.

[jdobbs]

Don't bother. I tried it, it encoded everything, but rebuilding of bd-structure (last stage) failed (for no obvious reason) Probably because its missing some files. The error is happening in scanning the original disc's directory structure.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Probably because its missing some files. The error is happening in scanning the original disc's directory structure.

Is there a way to verify the missing files? Maybe it was intentional from the manufacture :confused:

[shamoo]

Yes, that means you pre-processed the disc first. Try BD-RB on the original ripped Blu-Ray only.


Wont that make the quality worst? shrinking 43gb - 23gb with all the unessential material on it or taking out the unwanted material like foreign languages so its just the movie and audio left which is then 29gb? which is what i did.
All the other discs were done this way.
what i'm trying to achieve is a blu-ray quality disc, ideally like for like but since d/l blu-ray disc are about £10 thats too much.

and 1 question what is the best setting to have for encoding ?(for quality of picture purpose)

[vcarter]

hi

i know how to do a movie only backup with bd rb,but in this blu-ray there's the choice in the menu to choice the uncut or the original movie.

so how can i say bdrb to do " a movie only" of the uncut version?

maybe this is the reason of the error:i suppose there's a mpls for the uncut and one for the original.

@+

[Sharc]

Mode => Movie-only backup => Alternate Movie-only playlist
From the playlist select the uncut version.

[FZander]

Now I have a backup from my first movie with vc-1 codec.
I have remove a XP-Codec Pack. Reinstall all tools from the Description. After removing the no movie part, audio and video are small enought for a BD-25, but this disc not run in the panasonic bd80. I have read this is a timing/tsmuxer problem for panasonic player.
So I have force the encoding to AVC and its works fine.

[vcarter]

thanx for the help.

i've seen every m2ts in mpc,and i've choiced the uncut ones.there are some m2ts wich are the same for both,and some are different .
example:
00103.m2ts is the extended cut
00104.m2ts is the normal cut

i used "append" with tsmuxer gui with : the uncut version is 2.50.58 .i've spent a lot of time cause all the multiple m2ts are not in the good order.

Alternate Movie-only playlist =>playlist 00010 (or 00013)=> error ScanDirectory() 00052 2601

here's the m2ts exact list for the uncut version (did not write the 2 first 00 of all the m2ts)
102/198/103/105/107/201/203/204/205/208/207/206/209/210/212/213/214/215/216/217/218/219/220/221/222/223/224

here's the exact m2ts list for the ever seen movie:
102/198/104/105/106/201/236/204/226/208/227/206/228/210/229/213/230/215/231/217/232/210/233221/234/223/235

@+

[drmih]

Not being cynical but Gladiator isn't officially released in the UK or USA until September but about 4 days ago a partially pre-processed version was released on a newsgroup and suddenly there are lots of people not being able to re-encode it using bd-rb. It doesn't bother me but for jdobbs sake can people actually confirm that they have ripped an original disc, done no pre-processing, and still got errors.

[shamoo]

Not being cynical but Gladiator isn't officially released in the UK or USA until September but about 4 days ago a partially pre-processed version was released on a newsgroup and suddenly there are lots of people not being able to re-encode it using bd-rb. It doesn't bother me but for jdobbs sake can people actually confirm that they have ripped an original disc, done no pre-processing, and still got errors.

i have had a "failed to build structure" on a ripped original of Iron-Man, the failed happened was on a pre-processed file. Before i try it again on the original folder, what is the best set up to have? i want the best quality and if i chose to keep hd-audio would my ac-receiver down convert manually? the reason i want to keep hd audio is for the future when i get an av-receiver that does play hd audio, in encoder settings its currently on high quality, should i change it to highest? in the set up section what audio should i have ticked? if i have "keep hd audio for BD25 encoding" ticked, (excuse the dumb question) but will the av-receiver be able to down convert it?
one last question (for now :eek:) why not use BD rebiulder on a pre-processed file?

[Kakashi Sensei]

just b/c it hasn't hit the shelves doens't mean it isnt for sale early...

[Kakashi Sensei]

i have had a "failed to build structure" on a ripped original of Iron-Man, the failed happened was on a pre-processed file. Before i try it again on the original folder, what is the best set up to have? i want the best quality and if i chose to keep hd-audio would my ac-receiver down convert manually? the reason i want to keep hd audio is for the future when i get an av-receiver that does play hd audio, in encoder settings its currently on high quality, should i change it to highest? in the set up section what audio should i have ticked? if i have "keep hd audio for BD25 encoding" ticked, (excuse the dumb question) but will the av-receiver be able to down convert it?
one last question (for now :eek:) why not use BD rebiulder on a pre-processed file?

It can affect the output and cause unknown errors. BD-RB is meant to used on an unaltered Retail Disc that was ripped to the hard drive for backup of retail owned Bluray, not for piracy.

[FZander]

i want the best quality and if i chose to keep hd-audio would my ac-receiver down convert manually?
I keep also the best audio for later change the receiver. On my LCD (40" Sony) i can not see the difference between 14 or 20 Mbps video. But i can hear a differenz from 384 kbps AC-3 to DTS with 640 kbs or more.
And also now my old receiver convert the new formats fine.

[drmih]

just b/c it hasn't hit the shelves doens't mean it isnt for sale early...

That's not the issue - as I've said I'm not bothered myself. However, for those who have been helping here since the beginning we are aware of several times where a bug was actually a problem with a specific 'downloaded' iso - if it comes from several different rips then it's probably a bug, but if it's from several people all with the same rip then it can cause chaos. If you own an original Gladiator and have found a bug then that's important to know.

[Kakashi Sensei]

That's not the issue - as I've said I'm not bothered myself. However, for those who have been helping here since the beginning we are aware of several times where a bug was actually a problem with a specific 'downloaded' iso - if it comes from several different rips then it's probably a bug, but if it's from several people all with the same rip then it can cause chaos. If you own an original Gladiator and have found a bug then that's important to know.
I understand, trying to figure out a bad rip for a true bug :)

[leChameleon]

Since BD-RB won't process a few entire jobs can someone PM be and let me know how to put together 1 mts and 1 audio file so I can see if that part works on a home player? I can't figure out why on the smallest file BD-RB fails. It it plays fine on its own. Also tested two different rippers as well.

[setarip_old]

@Kakashi Sensei

Hi!just b/c it hasn't hit the shelves doens't mean it isnt for sale early...Since you raised the topic, I'll tell you that, if in fact, a legitimate retailer has sold you a legitimate copy of a BluRay (or standard DVD) prior to its offiicial release date, that retailer has violated his/her contract (with its distributor and/or the studios) and the two of you have participated an illegal transaction...

[setarip_old]

@leChameleon

Hi!how to put together 1 mts and 1 audio fileUse "tsMuxeR" and drag and drop each of the two files into the main window, then select whatever will suit your standalone player - either "BluRay" or "AVCHD"...

[jdobbs]

Not being cynical but Gladiator isn't officially released in the UK or USA until September but about 4 days ago a partially pre-processed version was released on a newsgroup and suddenly there are lots of people not being able to re-encode it using bd-rb. It doesn't bother me but for jdobbs sake can people actually confirm that they have ripped an original disc, done no pre-processing, and still got errors.Hah! That explains why I can't find it!!! I was thinking of my DVD copy... and it's on the shelf. :eek:

[jdobbs]

Since BD-RB won't process a few entire jobs can someone PM be and let me know how to put together 1 mts and 1 audio file so I can see if that part works on a home player? I can't figure out why on the smallest file BD-RB fails. It it plays fine on its own. Also tested two different rippers as well. I'm exhausted by this cryptic talk... if there is a bug -- report it! But simply saying "BD-RB won't process" is B.S. This is a bug report thread, not a gossip column.

Hundreds of discs processed I haven't found one yet that it "wouldn't process" -- the odds are the problem is your computer and/or your settings.

[Kakashi Sensei]

@Kakashi Sensei

Hi!Since you raised the topic, I'll tell you that, if in fact, a legitimate retailer has sold you a legitimate copy of a BluRay (or standard DVD) prior to its offiicial release date, that retailer has violated his/her contract (with its distributor and/or the studios) and the two of you have participated an illegal transaction...

HI!
Thanks for the advice, point taken! But as stated its a bug report, and its not a pirated copy so I dont see the problem. In the future i will wait until the official release date to post any bug i may encounter, I'm sorry for wasting space in this issue.

I'll report back if the problem is still there on September 1st. Again sorry for the confusion!

[setarip_old]

As my final somewhat O.T. comment, for the sake of all of us, I hope the following godawful reviews at Amazon.com were about the pre-release version mentioned by "dmih" and not about the true release purchased in advance by "Kakashi Sensei":

Avoid this one. It's not what you think

The butchering of a cinematic masterpiece - now available on Blu-Ray!

A Total Mess

AVOID this BD Release of Gladiator!

Gladiator in Wax City

DO NOT BUY WARNING!!!

WAIT FOR THE RERELEASE

Overprocessed video look on Blu Ray

[leChameleon]

I'm exhausted by this cryptic talk... if there is a bug -- report it! But simply saying "BD-RB won't process" is B.S. This is a bug report thread, not a gossip column.

Hundreds of discs processed I haven't found one yet that it "wouldn't process" -- the odds are the problem is your computer and/or your settings.I beg your pardon, I've asked for assistance before to help attempt to determine if the problem lies within BD-RB or external. As "Hundreds of discs" may run perfectly well in your environment it may not be the case for everyone else. I understand your limitations in testing all these environments and don't expect that you could test them all. I think your tone is a bit in appropriate.

[robinthehood]

Anyone explain to me what this means "GUI issue, no hWnd returned."

[FZander]

Anyone explain to me what this means "GUI issue, no hWnd returned."
A windows error, that should you never seen. (no handle for a windows)

[robinthehood]

A windows error, that should you never seen. (no handle for a windows)

Thanks, will try restarting the job later :)

[Kakashi Sensei]

As my final somewhat O.T. comment, for the sake of all of us, I hope the following godawful reviews at Amazon.com were about the pre-release version mentioned by "dmih" and not about the true release purchased in advance by "Kakashi Sensei":



Those reviews are spot on about the video quality :( Not the greatest BD out there. Too bad for such a great movie.

[vcarter]

Those reviews are spot on about the video quality

+1

this is about dnr and ee

do you remember the beginning battle?on the blu-ray,most of the flaming arrows aren't visible

@+

[hudsucker]

Hi all,

I have tried a movie only back up of `The Siege` to BD-25. In order to get a maximum bit rate I wanted to get as close as possible to the BD-25 maximum size of 23.2 GB.

Therefore I have set the target to 24.41 GB and even to 29.39 GB with different versions and speed settings:

20:50:24] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 24,41 GB

-----------------------
[21:40:43] BD Rebuilder v0.26.01 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 29,39 GB


But no matter what I have tried, the maximum output size was no more than 21.9 GB, still a waste of 1.3 GB.

Is there anything I can do to increase the output size?

Is it because the maximum bit rate is limited?
(The original bit rate of the movie is around 34500 kbps)



Thanks.

[Capsbackup]

@hudsucker;
Welcome to the forum. This is really not a "bug report".
I believe the term is called encoder saturation, and because x264 is awesome, it will not just increase the file size to fill out the disc.
You will not be able to tell the difference between the original and this backup. Do not get caught up in this misleading idea that since you did not fill up the disc to its capacity that you somehow did not get the highest quality. Check for yourself, let your eyes be the judge. 1.3 GB is not going to change the visible quality. Just your perception. ;)

[meatwad]

I believe I may have found a bug with "The Matrix" (Region A) using pip secondary audio. On playback in TMT3 both the 5.1 and pip secondary audio audio tracks are playing as if they are merged. The audio is distorted and jumpy. I also tried to encode it leaving the TrueHD track instead. With TrueHD as the main track there is no simultaneous distorted playback of it and the secondary audio. However, when you do try to play the secondary audio on pip it lowers the main track volume as it should but I can never hear the secondary audio. I verified that the secondary audio track was present and listed as separate tracks in the .m2ts file with TSMuxer. Both attempts were on a Windows 7 machine and I will make another in XP to rule out the OS. Here are the logs from my most recent attempt:

[02:06:41] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: THE_MATRIX
- Input BD size: 37.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:35:52.495]
- Target BD size: 23.54 GB
[02:06:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:06:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [02:12:45] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 29)
- [02:12:45] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [11:19:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [11:19:55] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 29)
- [11:21:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [11:21:29] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 29)
- [11:22:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [11:22:13] Reencoding: VID_00003 (4 of 29)
- [11:28:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [11:28:19] Reencoding: VID_00004 (5 of 29)
- [11:31:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [11:31:35] Reencoding: VID_00005 (6 of 29)
- [11:52:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [11:53:06] Reencoding: VID_00006 (7 of 29)
- [11:55:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [11:55:50] Reencoding: VID_00007 (8 of 29)
- [11:58:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [11:58:15] Reencoding: VID_00016 (9 of 29)
- [12:00:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [12:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00018 (10 of 29)
- [12:03:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [12:03:26] Reencoding: VID_00019 (11 of 29)
- [12:32:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [12:32:40] Reencoding: VID_00020 (12 of 29)
- [12:34:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [12:34:39] Reencoding: VID_00021 (13 of 29)
- [12:38:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [12:39:00] Reencoding: VID_00022 (14 of 29)
- [12:46:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [12:46:28] Reencoding: VID_00023 (15 of 29)
- [12:50:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [12:50:14] Reencoding: VID_00024 (16 of 29)
- [12:52:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [12:52:33] Reencoding: VID_00025 (17 of 29)
- [12:53:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [12:53:23] Reencoding: VID_00026 (18 of 29)
- [12:56:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [12:57:00] Reencoding: VID_00027 (19 of 29)
- [12:59:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [12:59:06] Reencoding: VID_00028 (20 of 29)
- [13:01:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [13:01:57] Reencoding: VID_00029 (21 of 29)
- [13:02:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [13:02:51] Reencoding: VID_00030 (22 of 29)
- [13:04:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [13:05:00] Reencoding: VID_00032 (23 of 29)
- [13:22:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
- [13:23:00] Reencoding: VID_00037 (24 of 29)
- [13:42:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [13:42:18] Reencoding: VID_00038 (25 of 29)
- [14:04:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [14:04:23] Reencoding: VID_00039 (26 of 29)
- [14:31:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [14:31:35] Reencoding: VID_00040 (27 of 29)
- [14:43:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [14:43:38] Reencoding: VID_00041 (28 of 29)
- [14:53:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
- [14:54:24] Reencoding: VID_00043 (29 of 29)
[18:53:54]PHASE ONE complete
[18:53:54]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:53:54] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:54:03] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:54:03]JOB: THE_MATRIX finished.

[jdobbs]

I beg your pardon, I've asked for assistance before to help attempt to determine if the problem lies within BD-RB or external. As "Hundreds of discs" may run perfectly well in your environment it may not be the case for everyone else. I understand your limitations in testing all these environments and don't expect that you could test them all. I think your tone is a bit in appropriate. Inappropriate or not... this is a bug report thread, not a comment thread. If you have a bug report it, then post it wait for a fix. But multiple posts on the same issue followed by "BD-RB won't process" comments is not only inappropriate but inaccurate.

I'm not trying to be a jerk -- honestly I'm a nice guy. But it's gotten to the point that I have to go through 10 pages of this thread just to find a true bug report to work on (as opposed to the 900 exact same "encode failed" reports with no other supporting information that are CODEC related and no one wants to read the previous 899 reports that explain how to fix it). Of course I guess I can hardly blame them -- as they have to read 6000 posts like the one I'm typing and responding to right now to find them...

[Capsbackup]

@meatwad;
I think you will find if you try this backup with PowerDVD, or better yet, burn to a BD-R/RE, and test it on a standalone, this will not happen. I too have experienced this with TMT2 and TMT3, and not with PowerDVD or on my Sony BX1. Though the original may play without this mixing, I have never had a BD-RB backup display this after burning to BD media and played back on my standalone.

[jdobbs]

Anyone explain to me what this means "GUI issue, no hWnd returned." Yeah. It's a problem I've been working on for a long time. Occasionally when BD-RB tries to find the X264 window (to get the handle so it can update its display) the operating system just doesn't seem to return it -- even though it is running.

The upside is that the encode is actually running when you see that and BD-RB is working... the downside is that the progress bars and percentages don't show progress while the encode is being executed.

It has never happened to me -- but has been reported as an inconsistent bug by several users. I've haven't yet been able to find a common thread so I can find the cause.

[jdobbs]

Those reviews are spot on about the video quality :( Not the greatest BD out there. Too bad for such a great movie. What a disappointment. I love that movie. Maximus reminds me so much of me... ok... except maybe for that whole bravery and honor stuff... oh, and I'm not really very good with a sword... and I guess he could be a little more buff than me... I forgot, he's also a natural born leader of men and I'm a geek programmer... but other than that we're pretty much like twins (except we don't really look anything alike). Fraternal twins, maybe?

After a lecture on keeping this thread focused on bugs, I post a note like this. I really should strike myself.

[jdobbs]

Hi all,

I have tried a movie only back up of `The Siege` to BD-25. In order to get a maximum bit rate I wanted to get as close as possible to the BD-25 maximum size of 23.2 GB.

Therefore I have set the target to 24.41 GB and even to 29.39 GB with different versions and speed settings:

20:50:24] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 24,41 GB

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[21:40:43] BD Rebuilder v0.26.01 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 29,39 GB


But no matter what I have tried, the maximum output size was no more than 21.9 GB, still a waste of 1.3 GB.

Is there anything I can do to increase the output size?

Is it because the maximum bit rate is limited?
(The original bit rate of the movie is around 34500 kbps)



Thanks. You're probably hitting encoder saturation, and the quality is as high as it is going to go. That's a good thing in most cases... it's really not a waste, because if you filled the other 1.3GB (and saturation is the case) it would be with the equivalent of zeros anyway. There are ways in X264 that you can cause it to waste bits so you fill a disc -- but there really isn't any logic to doing so.

Of course I'm just speculating that it is saturation, but it isn't that uncommon on BD-25 backups. X264 is just a really, really efficient encoder.

[Edit] Too late on the trigger... I see that Capsbackup already explained this... :)

[meatwad]

@meatwad;
I think you will find if you try this backup with PowerDVD, or better yet, burn to a BD-R/RE, and test it on a standalone, this will not happen. I too have experienced this with TMT2 and TMT3, and not with PowerDVD or on my Sony BX1. Though the original may play without this mixing, I have never had a BD-RB backup display this after burning to BD media and played back on my standalone.

Thanks, I'll give it a try. I watch more movies off my PC than my standalone and I'm not a big fan of PowerDVD anymore (try to watch Close Encounters of the Third Kind with it and you'll understand why). Plus it no longer supports playing BR from a folder.