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Rich86
13th September 2011, 06:43
Interestingly most of the tests that I've seen reported were actually conducted by the same people who are "selling" you HD audio. There are lots of sources, but with a quick Google, here's a quote from the DTS Wiki:
Well, to me "perceptually transparent for most audio program material" means the differences are not noticeable most of the time, and I have no argument with that - even though it is a wiki quote that came from whomever. I'll try to track down some more definitive actual test results just for fun - tomorrow - football tonight . .
Football is done (it was a very fine football weekend for SF Bay Area fans!).
I came across a reference to this article. Just sharing it here - should probably start a new thread elsewhere if we want to discuss it further.
http://www.hemagazine.com/node/Dolby_TrueHD_DTS-MA_versus_Uncompressed_PCM
jdobbs
13th September 2011, 13:47
Sigh... that's really reaching. A double-blind test is scientific proof. If you can find scientific studies that prove to the contrary then I can listen -- but I'm confident you won't. The article you link is just some guys listening from chairs when they know which-is-which... hell that's not scientific, it is nonsense. I know of studies where people consistently identified one track as superior in quality to another --- when nothing had changed except the amplitude.
This is almost a religion -- and eventually it will come down to "faith". I'm really not that interested in talking about it anymore, as it divides people in to warring factions over an unimportant subject -- and frankly BD-RB already has the capability of keeping HD audio, so what's the point? Let's just drop it and get this thread back on topic.
laserfan
13th September 2011, 14:46
Let's just drop it and get this thread back on topic.
Yes, HD audio has been discussed (to death, many times!) already, and if anyone wants to keep everything on a BD, they need only burn BD-50s, right?
Capsbackup
13th September 2011, 14:52
Hmm... I was going through the code and remembered that "yes", I did add a switch to disable this. Just add the following line to your INI file:
AUDIO_DIRECTSHOW=0
This switch worked for me! :D Tried both multi-m2ts movies that had converted to DD 2.0, but now they convert to DD 5.1. :cool:
:thanks: jdobbs.
jdobbs
13th September 2011, 15:08
This switch worked for me! :D Tried both multi-m2ts movies that had converted to DD 2.0, but now they convert to DD 5.1. :cool:
:thanks: jdobbs. Great. I sure wish I knew why it was acting goofy, though. Maybe I should set NicDTSSource() back as the default and add a "SAMSUNG=" switch since that is the only player I've seen that appears to be affected by NicAudio's "inexactness" bug. Unfortunately it appears that NicAudio() and DirectShowSource() are the only options for audio decoding.
Rich86
13th September 2011, 18:30
Yes, HD audio has been discussed (to death, many times!) already, and if anyone wants to keep everything on a BD, they need only burn BD-50s, right?
Like I mentioned earlier - my focus is on getting the highest quality video and audio of the movie on a BD25. Using BDRE in movie only mode with the highest quality settings and including only the very best audio track plus a subtitle if needed works very well, thanks to the fine quality output available from jdobbs programs.
Rich86
13th September 2011, 18:34
Sigh... that's really reaching. A double-blind test is scientific proof. If you can find scientific studies that prove to the contrary then I can listen -- but I'm confident you won't. The article you link is just some guys listening from chairs when they know which-is-which... hell that's not scientific, it is nonsense. I know of studies where people consistently identified one track as superior in quality to another --- when nothing had changed except the amplitude.
This is almost a religion -- and eventually it will come down to "faith". I'm really not that interested in talking about it anymore, as it divides people in to warring factions over an unimportant subject -- and frankly BD-RB already has the capability of keeping HD audio, so what's the point? Let's just drop it and get this thread back on topic.
Finding folks sitting around talking about and posting comments on double blind test results they say they are aware of is easy . . finding an actual definitive report on a professionally conducted double blind test is not so easy. If I do come across something worthwhile I'll post it in a different thread. Thanks.
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 00:52
I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new release of BD-RB (v0.39.01). Changes for this release:- Corrected and issue in which certain types of
HDMV menus may not be flagged properly and as a
result they may not be processed as such.
- Corrected an error in which selected LPCM audio
sources from a multi-m2ts stream may cause AFTEN
to fail during reencoding.
- Changed default for IVTC selection. Some common
players appear to have playback difficulties with
AVC using 3:2 pulldown, resulting in "jerkiness".
- Added additional code to prevent encoding and/or
previewing failure on exceptionally small M2TS
sources.
- Corrected a problem in which it may be possible
for audio/pgs streams to be selected/deselected
and the effect doesn't ripple through all related
playlists via playlist siblings.
- Corrected an error in which angles that are a
part of the main feature MPLS could, under certain
circumstances be "quick encoded" rather than
following the required criteria of the MPLS.
- Corrected an error in which angles that are a
part of the main feature MPLS could under certain
circumstances not be encoded -- and as a result
might not match the coding type of the main
stream.
- Added a new "Unblock Chapter Skip" feature to
SETUP. This will get help you skip over those
annoying trailers at the beginning of discs that
force to to either watch or fast-forward through
them (ughh).
- Corrected a long-standing issue in which selection
or deselection of audio/subs could create issues
in stream lists that contain more than 255 items.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r2074).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r2074).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.
xterminater
15th September 2011, 01:10
Thank u very much for the new update! Can I ask if this version allows you to remove annoying trailers? And keep menu and movies only? Or is that still in the works :)
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 01:14
In the latest version of BD-RB (v0.39.01) I have added some undocumented features. I didn't want to make them widely available until there was some more widespread testing (so far I'm the only tester). The new features enable a "Movie and Menus" mode and also the ability to selectively blank playlists.
I expect that there will be a need for some additional tweaking before these features are ready for general consumption, so I ask that anyone who would like to test these features post anything they find in this thread.
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1. In order to enable the new features, use the menu "File/View/Edit Config" and add this line to the config/INI file:
ENABLE_TEST=1
2. The "Movie and Menus" selection will now appear in the MODE menu.
3. Movie and Menus works by blanking any playlist (other than menus) that is less than 20 minutes long. The size of playlists to exclude, however, can be modified by setting a parameter called BLANK_THRESHOLD in the config/INI file. The parameter is set by specifying the threshold size (in seconds). The default is 1200 (20 minutes) so if you added this:
BLANK_THRESHOLD=1800
You would raise the threshold and anything less than 30 minutes would be excluded. A point to remember: The threshold isn't related to an individual M2TS file -- it is associated with PLAYLISTS.
4. Sometimes you might want to select for yourself which things to blank/unblank. You can do that by entering "Edit Mode". You enter edit mode by double-clicking on the title of the current disc (right next to the icon and above the Streams List). I may change the way of doing that later. Edit mode will not work unless you have ENABLE_TEST=1 set.
5. When in edit mode, streams that are selected for blanking will be "grayed out" in the streams display. When not in "Edit Mode" they are not visible.
6. "Edit Mode" can only be entered when using either "Full Backup" or "Movie and Menus" modes -- it will not work on a "Movie-Only" backup (for obvious reasons).
7. Also remember -- when you edit (blank or unblank), you selection works against a PlayList. So blanking/unblanking a single item can result in multiple items (any that are siblings to the selected items in any Playlist. Another point: Items that BD-RB has flagged as menus cannot be blanked (normally they won't even show up on a BD-25 backup, but will on a BD-9 because they have to be reencoded).
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You'll find that by using "Edit Mode" you can get some pretty nice effects. For example, if you select "Full Backup" mode, and then enter edit mode and blank the feature -- you can create a disc that contains only the extras. Combine that with movie-only mode and... you can now create a two disc backup that contains all features of a disc.
You may also find that menus might not be correctly identified 100% of the time... but it's close, and I'm looking for ways to make it more accurate.
Anyway -- please play with it and let me know what you think. Any suggestions for making it more usable will also be appreciated -- but please be reasonable.
Thanks.
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 01:15
Thank u very much for the new update! Can I ask if this version allows you to remove annoying trailers? And keep menu and movies only? Or is that still in the works :) Read the post immediately following yours.
xterminater
15th September 2011, 01:42
Yea i just saw this after i posted it lol...
xterminater
15th September 2011, 02:58
jdobbs, I am trying out that new feature now. Will keep you updated on what happens. I am doing a BD9 of The Dark Knight and keeping the extras, bitrate is only 1900 so does that seem too low of a quality? Consider the movie is 2hr30min long and extra is an hour long! How should I go and put extra on a second disc, preferrably a bd5 and still keep menu? I'm guessing this is how I would do it?
Select movie and menu mode, then blank out that 1 hour extra using edit mode, then I will have a bd9 with just the main movie and a menu. Then once that finish encoding, just do the same but blank out the main movie, and keeping the 1hr feature?
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 03:46
jdobbs, I am trying out that new feature now. Will keep you updated on what happens. I am doing a BD9 of The Dark Knight and keeping the extras, bitrate is only 1900 so does that seem too low of a quality? Consider the movie is 2hr30min long and extra is an hour long! How should I go and put extra on a second disc, preferrably a bd5 and still keep menu? I'm guessing this is how I would do it?
Select movie and menu mode, then blank out that 1 hour extra using edit mode, then I will have a bd9 with just the main movie and a menu. Then once that finish encoding, just do the same but blank out the main movie, and keeping the 1hr feature?
Not sure I understand completely what you're asking. How you want to encode is sorta' up to you. Go into edit mode and look for other extras that are longer than 20 minutes, and see if you want to blank those. A 2.5 hour movie on a BD-9 should be somewhere over 6Mbs assuming a couple of audio tracks. The menus typically are pretty small so I wouldn't think they count for much.
You could set the threshold to 70 minutes and do "movie and menus" to one disc, then set "Full backup" and blank the feature on the second one. I would guess that BD-5 would be fine for the extras -- but I don't know how much there is.
xterminater
15th September 2011, 04:10
You mention from the post above that we should be able to do some nice effects, such as making a 2 disc back up having movie on one disc and extras on the other disc, which is what I'm trying to achieve. It was my fault, I looked at the wrong track, the 1900kpbs was the extra being re-encoded instead of the main feature. I am keeping only one audio track, the true-hd which have 640kpbs audio bitrate, regular AC3 I believe. I will report back what the main feature bitrate will be tomorrow once it finish encoding. I took off the extra and just encode the main movie previously just to see what the bitrate is and it was reporting 4948kbps which is in the ballpark of what you said about 6Mpbs.
owine
15th September 2011, 06:10
jdobbs you continue to impress with your work. I will be running a couple of discs overnight in Menu and Movie mode, I will report my findings. Thank you again for your fantastic software development.
omegaman7
15th September 2011, 06:22
Jdobbs. Thank you for sharing the ability to blank. I'll be testing it too. And this friday, I'll try and throw something your way. ;)
setarip_old
15th September 2011, 07:24
@jdobbs
Hi!You'll find that by using "Edit Mode" you can get some pretty nice effects. For example, if you select "Full Backup" mode, and then enter edit mode and blank the feature -- you can create a disc that contains only the feature. Combine that with movie-only mode and... you can now create a two disc backup that contains all features of a disc.Does this mean that, exactly as I suggested in my August 26th post regarding DTS Express:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1522094&postcount=1
that if you, jdobbs, were to allow the inclusion of UNTOUCHABLE/UNCONVERTED (other than splitting) DTS Express tracks, we would now be able to include the DTS Express track(s) on a two disc backup?
**EDIT** Based on jdobbs revision of his earlier post, I believe that what I suggested is still not possible. Please correct me if actually CAN be done ;>}
longtom
15th September 2011, 07:58
Thanks for the update to 0.39.01
Any timeframe for the forced subtitles?
colinhunt
15th September 2011, 12:22
New functionality in 0.39.01: wow! Can't wait to test it out; kudos for all the hard work, jdobbs!
RobertM
15th September 2011, 15:57
Hi JDobbs,
Kudos on this new feature set in 39.01. BDRB just gets better and better.
Some initial observations; minor stuff (do you want this f/b here, in the "bugs" thread, or should this maybe in the "features" thread?).
1. When I manually blank an item there is sometimes no visual indication that anything has changed until I move off that item and can then see the new, grey background. Not a problem when there are sibling playlist items nearby, because they "grey-out" right away and I can see immediately that something has changed. Perhaps you could change the blanked item's "film" icon to a red X, which would be consistent with what you do when you de-select audio and subtitle items.
2. When I expand (double-click) a blanked video item the associated audio and subtitle content is not greyed out. Perhaps they should be greyed-out too, to reinforce the fact that this content will also also blanked.
3. I like seeing the "this clip is set to be blanked" subtitle when previewing a blanked item -- neat. But there is no indication in the preview window of which item is currently being viewed, and the hi-light in the BDRB window disappears when the preview window takes focus; I have to click on the BDRB window again to remind myself which clip is playing. Can BDRB retain its hi-light when it looses focus, or is there a Windows limitation here?
4. How about allowing resizing of the app window -- especially vertically. It would be nice to see more of the list of streams, now that we will be playing around with these items more often.
5. In your description of how the new features work you state:
if you select "Full Backup" mode, and then enter edit mode and blank the feature -- you can create a disc that contains only the feature. That last word seems wrong.
6. Entering "edit" mode by double-clicking the title felt a little non-intuitive at first. I wonder if there really needs to be an "edit mode" at all. Maybe you could allow stream blanking at all times, and just have a "Show blanked streams" checkbox at the top of the "Stream" tab. I dunno.
Anyway, thanks again, and keep up the good work.
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 17:09
1. When I manually blank an item there is sometimes no visual indication that anything has changed until I move off that item and can then see the new, grey background. Not a problem when there are sibling playlist items nearby, because they "grey-out" right away and I can see immediately that something has changed. Perhaps you could change the blanked item's "film" icon to a red X, which would be consistent with what you do when you de-select audio and subtitle items.The red X makes perfect sense. I'm asking myself why I didn't think of that to make it consistent. :confused:2. When I expand (double-click) a blanked video item the associated audio and subtitle content is not greyed out. Perhaps they should be greyed-out too, to reinforce the fact that this content will also also blanked. I'll look at this and see how hard it will be.3. I like seeing the "this clip is set to be blanked" subtitle when previewing a blanked item -- neat. But there is no indication in the preview window of which item is currently being viewed, and the hi-light in the BDRB window disappears when the preview window takes focus; I have to click on the BDRB window again to remind myself which clip is playing. Can BDRB retain its hi-light when it looses focus, or is there a Windows limitation here? Good idea. That probably should have been added long ago.4. How about allowing resizing of the app window -- especially vertically. It would be nice to see more of the list of streams, now that we will be playing around with these items more often. I'll look at that as well.5. In your description... Yep, that statement was ass-backwards. I'll edit it.6. Entering "edit" mode by double-clicking the title felt a little non-intuitive at first. I wonder if there really needs to be an "edit mode" at all. Maybe you could allow stream blanking at all times, and just have a "Show blanked streams" checkbox at the top of the "Stream" tab. I dunno. I don't really like the idea of leaving them on by default. It clutters the screen and makes things look too complicated for those who aren't into "advanced features". I agree that the double-click is a little goofy -- I need to come up with something else (either a small button or a menu item).
MrT.
15th September 2011, 19:13
Thank you for the update and new features.
I'm trying to blank some angles, there is 10 of them and are 500mb ish.
"Blank this item" is greyed out. I have enabled test.
I have output set to bd25, and full backup.
Is it because it is angle? and not possible?
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 19:43
Thank you for the update and new features.
I'm trying to blank some angles, there is 10 of them and are 500mb ish.
"Blank this item" is greyed out. I have enabled test.
I have output set to bd25, and full backup.
Is it because it is angle? and not possible?
Are you in "Edit Mode"? You can blank an angle -- but unfortunately since it is typically linked to other playback items which have a common playlist, they must all be blanked. If you are in "Edit Mode" and it is still disabled, it may be connected to a menu and isn't really an "angle". Sometimes there are short video sequences that appear to be angles -- but they are actually transition videos for selection actions from a menu.
MrT.
15th September 2011, 19:46
how do I enter Edit mode? I looked around but could not figure it out.
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 19:48
how do I enter Edit mode? I looked around but could not figure it out. It's outlined in my post about "ENABLE_TEST". You double-click on the name of the selected disc at the top of the streams list. A small "Edit" box will appear when it is enabled.
You cannot enter "edit" when "Movie-Only" is selected.
MrT.
15th September 2011, 20:28
thanks jdobbs
when I blank an angle, it blanks all the other angles and movie.
Sharc
15th September 2011, 20:34
@jdobbs
Thanks for the Edit feature :)
I normally do my backups on BD5@720, movie only, or perhaps from now on possibly movie + menu. I notice that menus are not resized to 720. I use crf prediction mode, and some of the menu clips get a crf of say 35 and turn out to be blocky (reminds me on the mpeg2 days...). I wonder whether the blockyness would be less if menus would also be resized to 720 (i.e. same as feature)? Is there a good reason why menus are not getting resized?
k-c-ksum
15th September 2011, 21:28
Just wanted to give you an update. I did BOURNE SUPREMACY and for me the secondary channels encoded correctly (23.976, progressive). Are you sure your source isn't corrupted or has been modified by any preprocessing?
done fast five and that comes out progressive :)
i'll get back to the bournes soon., dont know if makes any diffrence but fast five was avc were as Bourne was vc1
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 21:29
thanks jdobbs
when I blank an angle, it blanks all the other angles and movie. It's supposed to. Otherwise the authoring will fail.
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 21:35
@jdobbs
Thanks for the Edit feature :)
I normally do my backups on BD5@720, movie only, or perhaps from now on possibly movie + menu. I notice that menus are not resized to 720. I use crf prediction mode, and some of the menu clips get a crf of say 35 and turn out to be blocky (reminds me on the mpeg2 days...). I wonder whether the blockyness would be less if menus would also be resized to 720 (i.e. same as feature)? Is there a good reason why menus are not getting resized? You can't resize the menu. Otherwise the HDMV or BD-J menuing action/positioning will fail. They are generally done out-of-mux.
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 21:37
done fast five and that comes out progressive :)
i'll get back to the bournes soon., dont know if makes any diffrence but fast five was avc were as Bourne was vc1 I just looked at "Bourne Supremacy" and the one I did (that came out correctly) was also VC-1.
acki
15th September 2011, 21:40
Hi,
I'm running version v0.38.09 (beta), windows 7 home premium 64 bit, with everything "Ok" when running inspect. I created a batch for 6 blurays and I got exactly the same error message in every one of them:
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[18:43:04] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: QUE_ME_IMPORTA
- Input BD size: 35,32 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:07.846]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[18:43:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:43:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [18:43:27] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 3)
- [18:43:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.416 frames
- Bitrate: 15.660 Kbs
- [18:43:27] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:44:52] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:50:56] Video Encode complete
- [18:50:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00009_4352.AVS]
[18:50:57] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted
Contents of AUD_00009_4352.AVS
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\BD-RBV03809\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00009.track_4352.ac3").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))
It seems that Aften doesn't like the "DTS-HD XLL" reported tracks. Any clue ?
And the million dollar question... is there an easy way to take advantage of the already compressed video and not have to re-compress again? I guess that playing with tsmuxer and bdedit I could get somewhere... but if there is an easier way, I'd love to hear.
Thanks.
Sharc
15th September 2011, 21:48
You can't resize the menu. Otherwise the HDMV or BD-J menuing action/positioning will fail. They are generally done out-of-mux.
I see, thank you.
Anyway, 2-pass encoding solved the problem as these critical menu files got more bitrate allocated compared to the crf prediction mode.
xterminater
15th September 2011, 23:02
worked great on a bd50 to bd9 backup non java bluray! jdobbs, if there is an asterik (*) beside the stream number, ie.. IVD_00388* does that mean those are dependent of another playlist? Is it ok to blank these out, or will it mess with the bluray structure? The reason why I want to blank them is for unecessary ads and logos of a bluray.
MrT.
15th September 2011, 23:03
It's supposed to. Otherwise the authoring will fail.
I don't understand. When I block one thing, the entire Blu-ray is grayed out and blocked, leaving nothing to shrink.
jdobbs
15th September 2011, 23:21
I don't understand. When I block one thing, the entire Blu-ray is grayed out and blocked, leaving nothing to shrink. It's complicated. The way a disc plays back anything is determined by playlists. A playlist can consist of multiple parts (M2TS/CLPI combinations). In addition, an M2TS/CLPI combination might be a part of more than one playlist. You can't just blank one part of a playlist, you have to do it as a whole -- if you didn't you might get a movie or extra that has a hole right in the middle of it.
So when you decide to blank something -- the decision has to ripple through every sibling in that playlist, and any other linked playlists.
In other words, if you decide to blank an angle for a main feature -- you are also deciding to blank the entire main feature, and therefore angles aren't really "ripe" for blanking.
MrT.
15th September 2011, 23:27
ok, thank you for the explanation.
Would "quicker encode for extras" be good to enable in this case? The main feature film is 33 GB and all the extras, angle parts are around 500mb. Would BD-RB see those 500mb parts as extras? and does this do anything to aid the main features video quality?
xterminater
15th September 2011, 23:32
Jdobbs, many bluray now comes out with dvd copy and digital copy on the bluray itself, including several that I own. Is there a feature in bd-rb that let us remove those unecessary video files to save bitrate?
jdobbs
16th September 2011, 00:32
ok, thank you for the explanation.
Would "quicker encode for extras" be good to enable in this case? The main feature film is 33 GB and all the extras, angle parts are around 500mb. Would BD-RB see those 500mb parts as extras? and does this do anything to aid the main features video quality? Now that I think about it, though, you could redirect the alternate angles so they point to the primary angle. But that'd be a project for another day.
500MB isn't going to get you much. In a case like that you're probably better to do a just full backup and possibly blank any annoying trailors, warnings or other items that happen automatically at startup.
Capsbackup
16th September 2011, 01:56
Jdobbs, many bluray now comes out with dvd copy and digital copy on the bluray itself, including several that I own. Is there a feature in bd-rb that let us remove those unecessary video files to save bitrate?
Go to Settings, then Setup, and select "Keep Only BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders". :cool:
Or you could just remove/delete the unecessary extra folders from your source if you ripped the disc to folders with AnyDVD HD. ;)
xterminater
16th September 2011, 02:25
Go to Settings, then Setup, and select "Keep Only BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders". :cool:
Or you could just remove/delete the unecessary extra folders from your source if you ripped the disc to folders with AnyDVD HD. ;)
So you're saying that the digital copy and the dvd copy is in a dif folder structure rather than the BDMV? I analyzed the bluray with multiavchd and bdinfo and saw a 480p video stream along with the 1080p one. But there is no extra folder though, that's the part I'm lost.
Capsbackup
16th September 2011, 02:57
So you're saying that the digital copy and the dvd copy is in a dif folder structure rather than the BDMV? I analyzed the bluray with multiavchd and bdinfo and saw a 480p video stream along with the 1080p one. But there is no extra folder though, that's the part I'm lost.
The only two folders you need for Blu-ray backups are BDMV and CERTIFICATE. The other folders will contain the extra material. ( ex. DCOPY, etc...)
The 480P video stream you saw with BDInfo is the secondary video for the movie, and this cannot be removed. :(
xterminater
16th September 2011, 02:59
ohhhh i c... so what is the 480p stream for? Is that for extra features? and also what about bluray that have both 3D and 2D stream? Is BD-RB able to remove the 3D and keep the 2D only?
Capsbackup
16th September 2011, 03:04
ohhhh i c... so what is the 480p stream for? Is that for extra features? and also what about bluray that have both 3D and 2D stream? Is BD-RB able to remove the 3D and keep the 2D only?
The 480P stream is an extra on the Blu-ray, a PiP ( Picture-in-Picture ) feature with usually the director and actors discussing the making of the film while the movie is played.
BD-RB does not, at this time, work with 3D Blu-rays.
xterminater
16th September 2011, 03:23
Thanks for the explanation. I think I'll do BD25 backups for any movie that is more than 3 hour long with extras! Anything less BD9 is fine :)
setarip_old
16th September 2011, 06:43
I used v.38.09 to make a FULL DISC backup of "Thomas and Friends - Day of the Diesel".
The main movie is 1080i. I wanted to convert it to 1080p (for subsequent use with another tool), so I selected "Deinterlace" under "Setup".
When the task was completed, I was disappointed/confused to note that the main movie had remained as 1080i.
I tried a second time, adding "Deinterlacer Type=4" (Progressive "Fake") to the .INI file. This yielded the same result. Am I misunderstanding something (Which wouldn't be too unusual)? Does the "Deinterlace" function not work with the main movie, or have I come across a bug.
Realistically, I find it hard to believe that a function that's been around for so long is faulty - but you never know...
**EDIT** I just noticed that a couple of the "Extras", originally 480i, also remained unchanged
acki
16th September 2011, 10:22
Hi again.
I don't mean to be rude... but my post http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1526507#post1526507 was completely ignored. I was looking for similar problems to check wether they were fixed, but found none.
Unless I'm missing something, I'd say this is a bug and like so, should be addressed... or am I wrong ?
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.
jdobbs
16th September 2011, 14:08
Hi again.
I don't mean to be rude... but my post http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1526507#post1526507 was completely ignored. I was looking for similar problems to check wether they were fixed, but found none.
Unless I'm missing something, I'd say this is a bug and like so, should be addressed... or am I wrong ?
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.Please note this text from the first post of this thread:If you decide to download and test -- please post any errors you find in this thread. Don't push bug resolution or keep asking for a fix. I will get to the reported bugs, but only when I can find the time. Can you please post the contents of AUD_00009_4352.AVS and AUD_00009.meta? BD-RB works with any type of legal BD audio format except DTS-E in secondary titles.
jdobbs
16th September 2011, 14:11
I used v.38.09 to make a FULL DISC backup of "Thomas and Friends - Day of the Diesel".
The main movie is 1080i. I wanted to convert it to 1080p (for subsequent use with another tool), so I selected "Deinterlace" under "Setup".
When the task was completed, I was disappointed/confused to note that the main movie had remained as 1080i.
I tried a second time, adding "Deinterlacer Type=4" (Progressive "Fake") to the .INI file. This yielded the same result. Am I misunderstanding something (Which wouldn't be too unusual)? Does the "Deinterlace" function not work with the main movie, or have I come across a bug.
Realistically, I find it hard to believe that a function that's been around for so long is faulty - but you never know...
**EDIT** I just noticed that a couple of the "Extras", originally 480i, also remained unchanged I'll check out the 1080i and see what's up. But 480i will never be converted because 480p is illegal in Blu-Ray (except as a secondary track to a progressive primary). Also -- if you set Deinterlacer to "Fake" it will always still show as interlaced, that's what "fake" means (making a progressive source appear interlaced to make it legal).
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