BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[MrVideo]

(this almost reminds me of the old Monty Python sketch, 'Well, when I was young, we had to etch our own recordings in granite...')
Doesn't go back far enough. :D

[thekiller]

Hello,
How to have an HEVC + AC3 profile instead of AAC in the Alternate Output profile?
Thank you

[jdobbs]

Hello,
How to have an HEVC + AC3 profile instead of AAC in the Alternate Output profile?
Thank youJust add a new profile to the ALTERNATE.TXT file in the MISC folder. At the top of the file you'll see the settings that can be used. Here is an example of an HEVC profile with AC3 that could be added to the end of the file (assuming it hasn't been altered):[00039]
caption=MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, 448Kbs DD5.1
vEncoder=1
vBitrate=2000
vKeyint=Auto
aBitrate=448
aType=0
vFormat=5
cType=1

[CV91913]

I obviously have some setting screwed up somewhere as every DVD import to Alternate MP4 output I do has problems with "jumpy" video anytime there is action. I have never gotten a DVD conversion to work properly.

The psudo BD structure in the Import directory plays just fine. It is only the resulting MP4 that is jumpy.

Here are my logs and Alternate output settings.

[23:07:28] Importing DVD: SNOWDEN
- Processing DVD title [1 of 1 ]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
[23:13:38] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[02/03/17] BD Rebuilder v0.50.20
[23:17:53] Source: SNOWDEN_00001
- Input BD size: 5.46 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:14:49.581]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD to MP4, No Resize, Stereo-AAC
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[23:17:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:17:53] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [23:17:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [23:21:14] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 242,445 frames
- Bitrate: 3,288 Kbs
- [23:21:14] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:52:47] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:23:54] Video Encode complete
- [00:23:54] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AAC...
[00:30:26]PHASE ONE complete
[00:30:26]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:30:26] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[00:35:41] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[00:35:41] JOB: SNOWDEN finished.

[Status]
LABEL=SNOWDEN
VERSION=v0.50.20
SOURCE_SIZE=5861591040
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=5861591040
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=4.20389887862255
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=42
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00001]
AUDIO=1
PGS=100
MSCAN=2
SCANCOUNT=193960
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=24641536000
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[00042]
caption=DVD to MP4, No Resize, Stereo-AAC
vBitrate=2500
aBitrate=256
aType=1
vFormat=7
cType=5

[02/04/17] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.20
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Working Path Free Space: 347.16GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[02/04/17] Systems Settings Check complete

Hope someone has some ideas.

[jdobbs]

@CV91913

Have you tried turning on "IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown" in the SETUP dialog. I think you almost always need that on when converting from an NTSC DVD.

[Matrix789]

Hi everybody,

I demuxed a movie with eac3to, put only the video track into an mkv with mkvtoolnix and then encoded with bd rebuilder (best video quality and custom size 10240MB).
The encoding went fine but, when I made my final mkv with the encoded video track and the untouched audio, I noticed that the movie is now out of sync. The video track is in fact 5 seconds longer than the audio/original video track.

Do you know why, how to fix it and how to prevent it to happen again? I encoded only the video track because I wanted the target output size to be only focused on the video track.

Thank you

EDIT: I actually noticed that the video track appears to be 5 seconds longer even before the encoding. How is it even possible?

[CV91913]

@CV91913

Have you tried turning on "IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown" in the SETUP dialog. I think you almost always need that on when converting from an NTSC DVD.
I just tried that and can see no difference. Still jumpy. Creating MP4 from Bluray works great. Just DVD's are a problem.

I have tried constant and variable bitrates and 1 pass and 2 pass. Nothing seems to fix it. Any other suggestions?

[jdobbs]

I just tried that and can see no difference. Still jumpy. Creating MP4 from Bluray works great. Just DVD's are a problem.

I have tried constant and variable bitrates and 1 pass and 2 pass. Nothing seems to fix it. Any other suggestions?Is there any way you can create a snippet of the jumpy section so I can see what you mean?

[jdobbs]

Hi everybody,

I demuxed a movie with eac3to, put only the video track into an mkv with mkvtoolnix and then encoded with bd rebuilder (best video quality and custom size 10240MB).
The encoding went fine but, when I made my final mkv with the encoded video track and the untouched audio, I noticed that the movie is now out of sync. The video track is in fact 5 seconds longer than the audio/original video track.

Do you know why, how to fix it and how to prevent it to happen again? I encoded only the video track because I wanted the target output size to be only focused on the video track.

Thank you

EDIT: I actually noticed that the video track appears to be 5 seconds longer even before the encoding. How is it even possible?Sometimes the audio has a different start time than the video. You see that with intro studio symbols (not typically, but every now and again).

Why not just create a profile that leaves the audio untouched -- and let BD-RB do all the work? It automatically adjusts when the audio timestamp deviates from that of the video.

[meadrocks]

I'm having challenges with this title. I'm doing movie only, alternate output, mkv file, auto-aac, auto-gop. It is Playlist 00001. The audio is out of sync and there are no subtitles being displayed. I selected original swedish audio & english subtitles, not forced on.

Here is the setup info.
[Status]
LABEL=GIRL_WITH_THE_DRAGON_TATTOO
VERSION=v0.50.23
SOURCE_SIZE=19614609408
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=19614609408
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.238907951034127
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=17
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=4
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00001]
AUDIO=
PGS=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=1397394
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00000]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=4684376098
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00017]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=54310
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00018]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=258342

Here's the output from bd-rebuilder log file.

==========================
[19:58:45] BD Rebuilder v0.50.23
[19:58:45] BEGIN - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
-----------------------
[19:58:45] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
----------------------
[02/02/17] BD Rebuilder v0.50.23
[04:21:40] Source: GIRL_WITH_THE_DRAGON_TATTOO_00001
- Input BD size: 18.27 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:33:02.214]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, Auto-AAC, AutoGOP
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[04:21:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:21:41] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 4)
- [04:21:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [05:03:47] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 240 frames
- [05:03:47] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:03:58] Video Encode complete
- [05:03:58] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (swe): Reencoding audio to AAC...
- [05:22:25] Processing: VID_00000 (2 of 4)
- [05:22:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [05:31:33] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 219,720 frames
- [05:31:33] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:30:15] Video Encode complete
- [10:30:15] Processing: VID_00017 (3 of 4)
- [10:30:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [10:30:21] Reencoding video [VID_00017]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 96 frames
- [10:30:21] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:30:25] Video Encode complete
- [10:30:25] Processing: VID_00018 (4 of 4)
- [10:30:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [10:30:29] Reencoding video [VID_00018]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 97 frames
- [10:30:29] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:30:33] Video Encode complete
[10:30:34]PHASE ONE complete
[10:30:34]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:30:34] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[10:35:18] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:35:18] JOB: GIRL_WITH_THE_DRAGON_TATTOO finished.
==========================
[10:35:18] END - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

Thanks.

[CV91913]

Is there any way you can create a snippet of the jumpy section so I can see what you mean?
No problem. I have about 2 min that should demonstrate the problem. It is about 43mb. Where should I upload it?

[Matrix789]

Sometimes the audio has a different start time than the video. You see that with intro studio symbols (not typically, but every now and again).

Why not just create a profile that leaves the audio untouched -- and let BD-RB do all the work? It automatically adjusts when the audio timestamp deviates from that of the video.


Thank you for your reply.
The reason why I don't encode all together is because I want the video track to be the size that I set and not the whole file.
Also, I tried to encode the whole thing (leaving the dts audio untouched) but at the end of the process I couldn't hear any audio and on MediaInfo it looked like the audio track had been "touched" anyway.

Will it work I delay the audio track by 5 seconds with mkvtoolnix? And if yes, do I have to delay also the subtitles and chapters tracks or they are fine?

Thanks

EDIT: ok this is weird. I demuxed everything from the blu ray and I put it into a mkv: the movie duration is correct, 1hr 30min 40sec.
If I import the same mkv into bd rebuilder it shows that the movie length is 5 sec longer, 1hr 30min 45 sec. That's why after encoding the video track I can't put it back with the untouched audio: bd rebuilder "thinks" that the video is 5 sec longer than it actually is.
How do I fix it? I need bd rebuilder to see the correct length. Delaying or stretching the audio track didn't work.

[mparade]

Hello,

I was away from this forum for a long time...
Sorry for asking such things here, but can someone send a link/tell how the donation is working now?

After pushing "donation" I was linked to "Amazon.com eGift Cards"
page. E.g. what to write into the "to" field?

Sorry for asking such things that may have been answered here several times already.

[meadrocks]

Hello,

I was away from this forum for a long time...
Sorry for asking such things here, but can someone send a link/tell how the donation is working now?

After pushing "donation" I was linked to "Amazon.com eGift Cards"
page. E.g. what to write into the "to" field?

Sorry for asking such things that may have been answered here several times already.

Buy an Amazon Gift card & PM jdobbs the code. Don't need anything in the To field.

[gonca]

Hello,

I was away from this forum for a long time...
Sorry for asking such things here, but can someone send a link/tell how the donation is working now?

After pushing "donation" I was linked to "Amazon.com eGift Cards"
page. E.g. what to write into the "to" field?

Sorry for asking such things that may have been answered here several times already.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1784130#post1784130

[jdobbs]

Buy an Amazon Gift card & PM jdobbs the code. Don't need anything in the To field.Or send it to dvd-rb@jdobbs.net

[CV91913]

Is there any way you can create a snippet of the jumpy section so I can see what you mean?
Yes, I uploaded a 8mb snippet to your dvd-rb@jdobbs.net email.

[jdobbs]

I've been doing some interesting testing recently. I've been thinking about using HEVC for my SERVIIO playback rather than AVC. I've been using X264 and X265 as the encoders with CRF encoding. I'm kinda' disappointed with the results I'm seeing in the tests. It seems that, while the same CRF value on the surface appears to save space, HEVC/X265 is actually using more space to get equivalent SSIM results. This definitely isn't what I was expecting. In fact the only time I'm seeing comparable or better results is at high CRF values that I wouldn't normally use.

Has anyone else seeing this kind of behavior? I saw a report that Netflix did some tests that disagree with what I'm seeing. In fact, they're saying X265 can compete with X264 at half the bitrate. Only at very-low bitrates, maybe?

Also -- at what value does SSIM reach a point that is generally considered "acceptable"? (I know this is really subjective and probably changes based on resolution, but I'm hoping that there's a consensus somewhere).

I think I'm going to run some tests using fixed bitrates rather than CRF and see what happens.

[Sharc]

I've been doing some interesting testing recently. I've been thinking about using HEVC for my SERVIIO playback rather than AVC. I've been using X264 and X265 as the encoders with CRF encoding. I'm kinda' disappointed with the results I'm seeing in the tests. It seems that, while the same CRF value on the surface appears to save space, HEVC/X265 is actually using more space to get equivalent SSIM results. This definitely isn't what I was expecting. In fact the only time I'm seeing comparable or better results is at high CRF values that I wouldn't normally use.

Has anyone else seeing this kind of behavior? I saw a report that Netflix did some tests that disagree with what I'm seeing. In fact, they're saying X265 can compete with X264 at half the bitrate. Only at very-low bitrates, maybe?

Also -- at what value does SSIM reach a point that is generally considered "acceptable"? (I know this is really subjective and probably changes based on resolution, but I'm hoping that there's a consensus somewhere).

I think I'm going to run some tests using fixed bitrates rather than CRF and see what happens.
I think that we have to take CRF out of the equation for comparing x264 with x264 because the CRF are not really calibrated (aligned) between the two encoders. So SSIM (or similar) and file size are probably the only objective measures for comparison (apart from subjective visual impression, and encoding speed if this matters).
There exist some threads in doom9 comparing the two encoders, and if I remember this correctly a sort of general consensus was (or still is?) that x265 shines at low bitrates (where x264 collapses), and at high resolutions (4k), but the savings in bitrate of 1:2 as a rule of thumb seems still very ambitious. It's certainly worth to follow the discussion in the relevant threads.
I haven't been doing much testing with x265.

[jdobbs]

I think that we have to take CRF out of the equation for comparing x264 with x264 because the CRF are not really calibrated (aligned) between the two encoders. So SSIM (or similar) and file size are probably the only objective measures for comparison (apart from subjective visual impression, and encoding speed if this matters).
There exist some threads in doom9 comparing the two encoders, and if I remember this correctly a sort of general consensus was (or still is?) that x265 shines at low bitrates (where x264 collapses), and at high resolutions (4k), but the savings in bitrate of 1:2 as a rule of thumb seems still very ambitious. It's certainly worth to follow the discussion in the relevant threads.
I haven't been doing much testing with x265.Yeah, I'm aware that the CRF values aren't aligned. But the surprising part is that to get the same SSIM result, the file size of the X265 encode is sometimes larger than that of X264 (especially when the SSIM value is larger than .99xxx). I never would have expected that.

[Sharc]

Yeah, I'm aware that the CRF values aren't aligned. But the surprising part is that to get the same SSIM result, the file size of the X265 encode is sometimes larger than that of X264 (especially when the SSIM value is larger than .99xxx). I never would have expected that.
Does this happen mainly for grainy/noisy sources? There have been lot of discussions about grain retention with x265.

[jdobbs]

Does this happen mainly for grainy/noisy sources? There have been lot of discussions about grain retention with x265.No. I ran encodes on over 300 different movies doing a 1% sample (SelectRangeEvery(4800,48)). They ranged in size from 720x480 to 1920x1080. It seems to be consistent across all of them.

[jdobbs]

No. I ran encodes on over 300 different movies doing a 1% sample (SelectRangeEvery(4800,48)). They ranged in size from 720x480 to 1920x1080. It seems to be consistent across all of them.I may have spoken too soon. Rather than just looking at the numbers randomly, I decided to write a program that scans through them and does calculations on the results. It's not as bad as I thought -- but a lot less impressive than I would have expected -- and nowhere near halving the output size. I'm running it again, but instead of doing the first 300 files in the database -- I'm having it randomly select the files to encode.

[gonca]

And then the big question
Is the size reduction worth the extra computing power and time to compress and then view?

[jdobbs]

And then the big question
Is the size reduction worth the extra computing power and time to compress and then view?With what I know at this point, no. I think the price of disc space is shrinking faster than any savings you'd get over time. If I were a company like Netflix that had to pay for transmission bandwidth it might be different.

We'll see what I get in this second round. It'll take most of the day to run.

[gonca]

I would say that for the same quality results you might be looking at 3x encode time to come down to 75% size
Plus the softening/blurring effect of x265
This is at 1080p though
At 4k it might be different

[Lathe]

Yep...

Long Live x264!

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/Rock On1.gif

[CraigWally]

Quick Menu question
This is the first time I've tried this, so still learning
I have imported 17 episodes (The Prisoner) into BDRB.
The Menu it creates lists episode 1-16 in a column then episode 17 on it's own in a second column. This looks rather silly.
How can I tell BDRB to even things up a bit
eg 1-9, then 10-17
or 1-6, 7-12, 13-17

TIA Wally

[jdobbs]

Quick Menu question
This is the first time I've tried this, so still learning
I have imported 17 episodes (The Prisoner) into BDRB.
The Menu it creates lists episode 1-16 in a column then episode 17 on it's own in a second column. This looks rather silly.
How can I tell BDRB to even things up a bit
eg 1-9, then 10-17
or 1-6, 7-12, 13-17

TIA WallyRight now the row count is fixed. I'll probably change that at some point. But you could add MENU_MAXITEMS=9, and it would create two pages with 9 items on the first and 8 on the second.

[CraigWally]

Right now the row count is fixed. I'll probably change that at some point. But you could add MENU_MAXITEMS=9, and it would create two pages with 9 items on the first and 8 on the second.

Thanks for quick answer

[thekiller]

Just add a new profile to the ALTERNATE.TXT file in the MISC folder. At the top of the file you'll see the settings that can be used. Here is an example of an HEVC profile with AC3 that could be added to the end of the file (assuming it hasn't been altered):[00039]
caption=MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, 448Kbs DD5.1
vEncoder=1
vBitrate=2000
vKeyint=Auto
aBitrate=448
aType=0
vFormat=5
cType=1

Thank you very much, by cons I have as problem on 2 movies


[02/16/17] BD Rebuilder v0.50.23
[21:44:17] Source: MAGNIFICENT_SEVEN_00356
- Input BD size: 34,11 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:53:07.752]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, 448Kbs DD5.1
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[21:44:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:44:19] Processing: VID_00350 (1 of 40)
- [21:44:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00350]
- [21:55:02] Reencoding video [VID_00350]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2*011 frames
- Bitrate: 1*480 Kbs
- [21:55:02] Reencoding: VID_00350, Pass 1 of 2
[21:55:08] - Failed video encode, aborted



is there a solution ??

thank

[gonca]

Can you post your inspect results?

[jdobbs]

Thank you very much, by cons I have as problem on 2 movies


[02/16/17] BD Rebuilder v0.50.23
[21:44:17] Source: MAGNIFICENT_SEVEN_00356
- Input BD size: 34,11 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:53:07.752]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, 448Kbs DD5.1
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[21:44:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:44:19] Processing: VID_00350 (1 of 40)
- [21:44:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00350]
- [21:55:02] Reencoding video [VID_00350]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2*011 frames
- Bitrate: 1*480 Kbs
- [21:55:02] Reencoding: VID_00350, Pass 1 of 2
[21:55:08] - Failed video encode, aborted



is there a solution ??

thank1. Please post the contents of your ALTERNATE.TXT file so I can see if it's entered correctly.
2. Are any other encodes working?
3. As gonca suggested, please post INSPECT results.

[colinhunt]

Looks like PS4 won't play "inmux 3D" as 3D. Anybody else tested on PS4? Just wondering if it's only on my PS4 set-up for some reason.

[jdobbs]

Looks like PS4 won't play "inmux 3D" as 3D. Anybody else tested on PS4? Just wondering if it's only on my PS4 set-up for some reason.If it doesn't -- it is in violation of the standard. But I have my doubts that is the issue.

[jdobbs]

1. Please post the contents of your ALTERNATE.TXT file so I can see if it's entered correctly.
2. Are any other encodes working?
3. As gonca suggested, please post INSPECT results.I guess it's more fun to post a report than to post information that might be required to fix it?

[Lathe]

I guess it's more fun to post a report than to post information that might be required to fix it?

C'mon guys... you get the Boss all worked up and then leave him hangin'... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/no.gif

[gonca]

4 posts in 7 years...

[jetli]

hi, how can i get a quick play disk
with each video getting a subtitle forced on?

is this possible?

thanks tony

[Avinash KN]

Hi, I am observing issues with subtitle when i try to back up my multi file BD movies. These are standard movie discs purchased from store. The video and audio has no problem. But subtitle goes out of sync after first file. I see the text for second file getting displayed for some other file after merger. This issue doesn't happen for all split file movies. But only for some of them. I am not able to differentiate between the two types of split file movies, one which works and another which wouldn't. My setting are listed below. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Let me know if any more details are needed. Thanks.

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.23
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=47366
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
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[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\SHERLOCK\
WORKING_PATH=D:\NEW FOLDER\

Warm Regards,
Avinash K N

[Avinash KN]

Sorry. missed out some more info:

I have enabled Movie-only backup option. Alternate output is not enabled.

[Weirdo]

I think I got confirmation on something I've always wanted to ask: can the user-set settings of LAV filters (outside of BD-RB) interfere with a a backup? I completed a backup (I've deleted it) of a Blu-Ray with 1080i/25fps content and everything played in slow motion in the backup. This also happens with "Preview this item" in BD-RB.

In the LAV Video Configuration, I have Software Deinterlacing/YADIF enabled. If I disable it, the Preview plays fine in BD-RB with this Blu-Ray and I assume a new backup will also work fine.

Can BD-RB ignore the LAV user-settings or do the LAV Filters always need to be set in a specific way?

[Lathe]

...everything played in slow motion

Hmmm, so, uh..., were you maybe smok'n a little somethin...?





http://lathe-of-heaven.com/shroom.gif

[Weirdo]

Hmmm, so, uh..., were you maybe smok'n a little somethin...?
Much slower speed, if you prefer. No smoking involved and I still have the BD anyway so it's easily reproduced.

[Lathe]

Much slower speed, if you prefer. No smoking involved and I still have the BD anyway so it's easily reproduced.

:D

That really IS odd... JD or one of the other experts here will likely know why...

[Weirdo]

Just created another backup and indeed it works perfectly with YADIF disabled in the LAV settings. The problem is obviously with the interlaced videos. Also note that when YADIF is enabled on the 25p/30p setting, the problem also doesn't appear. My original setting was 50p/60p, and that's what causes trouble.

[colinhunt]

If it doesn't -- it is in violation of the standard. But I have my doubts that is the issue.
Was there a hidden option that would force BD-RB to make BDMV + SSIF directory structure for 3D back-ups? My memory's kinda hazy on that.

[jdobbs]

Was there a hidden option that would force BD-RB to make BDMV + SSIF directory structure for 3D back-ups? My memory's kinda hazy on that.Only for movie-only backups. But, as I said, it's likely something other than in-mux -- since that is a standard backup that is also present on commercial discs. I suspect you are blaming the wrong problem.

[jdobbs]

I think I got confirmation on something I've always wanted to ask: can the user-set settings of LAV filters (outside of BD-RB) interfere with a a backup? I completed a backup (I've deleted it) of a Blu-Ray with 1080i/25fps content and everything played in slow motion in the backup. This also happens with "Preview this item" in BD-RB.

In the LAV Video Configuration, I have Software Deinterlacing/YADIF enabled. If I disable it, the Preview plays fine in BD-RB with this Blu-Ray and I assume a new backup will also work fine.

Can BD-RB ignore the LAV user-settings or do the LAV Filters always need to be set in a specific way?There are lots of ways you can create an issue in a backup. Using filters is a good example. I don't see how deinterlacing would do it -- but if combined with certain settings maybe... of possibly it is showing up as 1080i/25p (which is illegal)?

I'd need an example and your settings to test it.

[Weirdo]

I'd need an example and your settings to test it.
http://thumbnails117.imagebam.com/53370/ff2b82533699114.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/ff2b82533699114)

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[12:03:39]PHASE ONE complete
[12:03:39]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
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[12:03:41] - Encode and Rebuild complete
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[12:03:41] JOB: finished.

[02-20-17] Checking System Settings
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- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[02-20-17] Systems Settings Check complete