BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[colinhunt]

Are those PCM audio tracks 7.1ch?
I'm fairly sure they're actually 1.0ch.

[jdobbs]

I'm fairly sure they're actually 1.0ch.

I definitely don't understand the Mediainfo data. Bitrate "0" and Channels "0"??

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.37.01). Changes for this release:- Added a routine that automatically checks for
playlist links and, when changes are made to the
audio or subtitle selection the change ripples
through all members of a playlist. Please note
that a single M2TS file can be a member of more
than one playlist. For clarity, any entry that
is a component of a multi-part playlist will be
highlighted with a "*" in the BD-RB streams
list (ex: "VID_00001*") on full backups.
- Added a new audio type for ALTERNATE MKV output.
You can now set aType to keep the original audio
intact (unchanged). Also added a new profile as
an example ("MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact
Audio"). This allows AC3 as well as LPCM and DTS
output to MKV.
- Added a new hidden option "ALTERNATE_PAL=n". When
set to "1" while "Assume PAL for DVD Output" is
selected an alternate method is used to convert
FILM (23.976) sources. The framerate will be
directly assumed to be 25fps (rather than using
a conversion algorithm) and the audio will be
adjusted to match the new timeline. This method
can result in clearer video playback at the
expense of some slight audio change. Note: This
applies to DVD output only.
- Added code to prevent a system from going into
SLEEP mode while BD-RB is executing.
- Corrected a bug in which DVD-5/9 ALTERNATE output
combined with multiple audio tracks might combine
to exceed the DVD maximum bitrate and buffering,
and result in a "ERROR in attempt to mux (MPLEX)"
error.
- Corrected an error in the sizing algoritm for DVD
ALTERNATE output. Previously any changes in the
framerate (e.g. PAL from NTSC or FILM) could
result in oversizing/undersizing.
- Modified settings so that an SD source that is
being inverse telecined and converted to 1080 will
become 1080p @ 23.976fps rather than 1080i @ 29.97
via X264's pulldown mechanism.
- Corrected an issue in which BD-RB, under certain
circumstances and during movie-only encoding might
set the remux framerate incorrectly to NUL, and
cause audio desynchronization.
- Corrected an error in which a 7.1 LPCM audio that
is being converted to DD would fail causing BD-RB
to "freeze" while attempting to reencode audio.
- Refined the MPEG-2 scan to better detect pulldown
v.s. hybrid sources.
- Corrected a conditional decision so that LAVF will
not be used when pulldown is detected in a source.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Hobojobo]

Is it possible with BD_RB v0.37.01 to choose more then 1 audio track for the alternate mkv output?

[jdobbs]

Is it possible with BD_RB v0.37.01 to choose more then 1 audio track for the alternate mkv output?
No. All that changed is that you can now keep HD audio. But multiple audio selections might be in the next release.

[Sharc]

- Added a new hidden option "ALTERNATE_PAL=n". When
set to "1" while "Assume PAL for DVD Output" is
selected an alternate method is used to convert
FILM (23.976) sources. The framerate will be
directly assumed to be 25fps (rather than using
a conversion algorithm) and the audio will be
adjusted to match the new timeline. This method
can result in clearer video playback at the
expense of some slight audio change. Note: This
applies to DVD output only.

Thank you! :)

[omegaman7]

No. All that changed is that you can now keep HD audio. But multiple audio selections might be in the next release.

Are you saying that there is currently no way to keep "ALL" audio tracks, without conversion? I'm experiencing a problem with "The Other Guys" still. I thought I had it, but apparently I do not. When loading it into 2 software players, it acts as though it only kept 1 audio track. Foreign audio track. Possibly portugese, but do not quote me on this :p (Whether I play Theatrical or Unrated). I'd really just like to keep all the audio, so I don't have to worry about this. I burned the output files anyway, and the BD player freezes while loading the disc. It's loaded other discs of this type. I wonder if the PS3 updates are causing this, but I doubt it. They should probably be ignored by players that don't recognize the files/folders.

Uh oh, it's possible that I deleted my second attempt, and am still trying to play the first attempt. I'll be reencoding the files yet again today. :S

Ok. I noticed the ability to keep all audio. Even though it's not keeping everything :confused:


Sorry, it's now keeping virtually all tracks. Didn't notice that nice little check box...

[jdobbs]

Are you saying that there is currently no way to keep "ALL" audio tracks, without conversion? I'm experiencing a problem with "The Other Guys" still. I thought I had it, but apparently I do not. When loading it into 2 software players, it acts as though it only kept 1 audio track. Foreign audio track. Possibly portugese, but do not quote me on this :p (Whether I play Theatrical or Unrated). I'd really just like to keep all the audio, so I don't have to worry about this. I burned the output files anyway, and the BD player freezes while loading the disc. It's loaded other discs of this type. I wonder if the PS3 updates are causing this, but I doubt it. They should probably be ignored by players that don't recognize the files/folders.

Uh oh, it's possible that I deleted my second attempt, and am still trying to play the first attempt. I'll be reencoding the files yet again today. :S

Ok. I noticed the ability to keep all audio. Even though it's not keeping everything :confused:


Sorry, it's now keeping virtually all tracks. Didn't notice that nice little check box... I don't think I know what you're saying.

You can certainly keep all tracks in blu-ray, avchd, or even DVD backup. But when you output to an MKV or MP4 file (ALTERNATE output), only the first selected track is kept.

I've backed up "The Other Guys" every which way I can think of and am not having any issues.

[omegaman7]

I know how to keep all audio now. I misunderstood at first, how the selections worked. Blond moment LOL!!! What ever my problem is, I'm keeping all audio now, and I'll see how that does tonight when I get home from work. If that doesn't work, i'll upgrade to the new version. I need to know if my current version is SOMEHOW causing it.

[colinhunt]

I definitely don't understand the Mediainfo data. Bitrate "0" and Channels "0"??
Me neither. That's why I added how VLC and MPC-HC play the file. Must be a rare mux or audio configuration if MediaInfo does not recognize the format.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs, @colinhunt

Hi!

Regarding "Peeping Tom" - Online reviews indicate that this recently made Blu-ray of a (IIRC) 1950s movie contains only a (single channel) monaural PCM audiostream, which is very likely the cause of the backup and playback problems.

I believe this can be remedied (for a movie-only backup) by, before using BD-RB, extracting the audiostream and using EAC3 to convert it to (two channel) stereo PCM and then using tsMuxeR to replace the original audiostream with the revised version - and then process with BD-RB...

[omegaman7]

All is well now with "The Other Guys". But some dark scenery suffered more than I'd like. So I'll be running it once again, with some different audio settings, and a longer encode :)

Jdobbs. Do you have a Theoretical explanation even, of what would cause the program to mistake audio languages? My first encodes had instructions of English audio only, and yet it kept Portuguese(or some other language) only. Shame I can't preview/sample the audio source by right clicking, and opening with a media player ;) Then I could verify that the program is confused.
Dvd rebuilder has never done this before. Something weird must be going on to effect Bd rebuilder.

[setarip_old]

@omegaman7

Hi! Do you have a Theoretical explanation even, of what would cause the program to mistake audio languages? My first encodes had instructions of English audio only, and yet it kept Portuguese(or some other language) only. Shame I can't preview/sample the audio source by right clicking, and opening with a media playerHave you played the original Blu-ray disc to determine whether the audiostream selections work properly on it?

[omegaman7]

Yes. The uncompressed folder plays perfectly. So does my third attempt at the compressed output, keeping all audio tracks. I'm now running it again, removing select audio tracks manually. I won't be deleting the original folder for some time. I have to know what is causing this. This is really bizarre LOL!

You sure love that blue text lol.

[Sharc]

@Jdobbs
I tried the Alternative PAL DVD mode with ALTERNATE_PAL=1.
Perfect, no ghosted pictures any more.
Just to inform I set the Custom Size to 4483 MB and still got some undersize of 94% (video+1 audio) -- which on the positive side let me eventually add a nice menu ....

[jdobbs]

I know how to keep all audio now. I misunderstood at first, how the selections worked. Blond moment LOL!!! What ever my problem is, I'm keeping all audio now, and I'll see how that does tonight when I get home from work. If that doesn't work, i'll upgrade to the new version. I need to know if my current version is SOMEHOW causing it.

Well... there are rarely times when it is useful to keep all languages, unless you speak them all (which is rare). Every language you keep steals bandwidth from the video. If there is enough content, you're video quality may suffer noticably.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs, @colinhunt

Hi!

Regarding "Peeping Tom" - Online reviews indicate that this recently made Blu-ray of a (IIRC) 1950s movie contains only a (single channel) monaural PCM audiostream, which is very likely the cause of the backup and playback problems.

I believe this can be remedied (for a movie-only backup) by, before using BD-RB, extracting the audiostream and using EAC3 to convert it to (two channel) stereo PCM and then using tsMuxeR to replace the original audiostream with the revised version - and then process with BD-RB... Hmmm... mono tracks are completely legal and BD-RB should handle them, although I'm not sure I have run into any.

[jdobbs]

All is well now with "The Other Guys". But some dark scenery suffered more than I'd like. So I'll be running it once again, with some different audio settings, and a longer encode :)

Jdobbs. Do you have a Theoretical explanation even, of what would cause the program to mistake audio languages? My first encodes had instructions of English audio only, and yet it kept Portuguese(or some other language) only. Shame I can't preview/sample the audio source by right clicking, and opening with a media player ;) Then I could verify that the program is confused.
Dvd rebuilder has never done this before. Something weird must be going on to effect Bd rebuilder. You can right click on the extracted audio before encoding and play it, or you could right click on the AUD_XXXXX.AVS file and play it.

The only way I could see that happening is if somehow the audio PID in the M2TS is not configured to match the one in the CLPI and/or M2TS. If that's true, then the source is corrupted. There's nothing BD-RB could do about that. As I may have said before -- after a couple thousand test runs against a huge number of commercial BDs... I have never gotten the wrong language.

[jdobbs]

@Jdobbs
I tried the Alternative PAL DVD mode with ALTERNATE_PAL=1.
Perfect, no ghosted pictures any more.
Just to inform I set the Custom Size to 4483 MB and still got some undersize of 94% (video+1 audio) -- which on the positive side let me eventually add a nice menu .... How is the sound after the compaction? I did a few tests, and couldn't notice much difference if any...

[williamtel]

@jdobbs

I do not know if this will be important to anyone else but I just wanted to share what I expirienced.
I was backing up "Salt" US version, when file 50 of 64 caused an error of tsmuxer.exe to stop working. Tried a couple of times and then I decieded to download the the latest version of Halli Media Spliter which was released on Nov 21, 2010. Program ran fine with no issues. I don't know if this info will help anyone else but this worked for me and I wanted to let someone else know. Thanks.

[omegaman7]

Thanks for the tip about running the workfiles. But the numbering scheme used by avisynth compared to Bd rebuilders numbering scheme is a bit cumbersome at best. I think I understand though. I'm even more baffled now. If I'm understanding avisynth correctly, the english audio track IS the english audio track. Which confuses me even more LOL!

I removed the extra english tracks, and the HD french track, and was happily greeted by HD english audio upon playing the main title. This would sure be easier if the main title was a single M2TS file. Wonder why they did it this way... Basterds! LOL!

I will now run it again at super fast settings, to hurry along the testing, so that I may understand the error. By the way, I can't seem to play the AVS files. "Cannot Render file". I'm gonna try to create the error once again, to be sure this is an error at all, and not just a fluke. The way it happened before, was keeping HD audio (English only).

Hmm the other machine plays the AVS files. Likely an association issue...

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

I do not know if this will be important to anyone else but I just wanted to share what I expirienced.
I was backing up "Salt" US version, when file 50 of 64 caused an error of tsmuxer.exe to stop working. Tried a couple of times and then I decieded to download the the latest version of Halli Media Spliter which was released on Nov 21, 2010. Program ran fine with no issues. I don't know if this info will help anyone else but this worked for me and I wanted to let someone else know. Thanks. There are other issues with that HAALI version -- when I tested it I got random X264 crashes. Use it if you wish, it's your computer -- but please don't post any bug reports, because I already know the cause.

Try enabling or disabling "Uncompressed" audio decoding in FFDSHOW and see if it has an effect.

I did the US version of "Salt" with no issues.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the tip about running the workfiles. But the numbering scheme used by avisynth compared to Bd rebuilders numbering scheme is a bit cumbersome at best. I think I understand though. I'm even more baffled now. If I'm understanding avisynth correctly, the english audio track IS the english audio track. Which confuses me even more LOL!

I removed the extra english tracks, and the HD french track, and was happily greeted by HD english audio upon playing the main title. This would sure be easier if the main title was a single M2TS file. Wonder why they did it this way... Basterds! LOL!

I will now run it again at super fast settings, to hurry along the testing, so that I may understand the error. By the way, I can't seem to play the AVS files. "Cannot Render file". I'm gonna try to create the error once again, to be sure this is an error at all, and not just a fluke. The way it happened before, was keeping HD audio (English only).

Hmm the other machine plays the AVS files. Likely an association issue...Numbering scheme? Huh?

[omegaman7]

Ok. I think I was intimidated by a number which made no sense to me. I think it does now. E.g. "AUD_00125_4352". 4352 is simply a way of distinguishing a different audio track within a clip(4352 should be english, and 4360 could be Portuguese). AUD_00125, is part of VID_00125. It has simply been Demuxed. Sorry, i'm about as green as it gets. I'm more than anything explaining this to myself ;)

[Sharc]

How is the sound after the compaction? I did a few tests, and couldn't notice much difference if any...
Sound is good. I don't really notice a pitch shift when comparing the recoded ac3 with the original DTS. The 'time stretch/tempo' algo seems to perform very well.

[jdobbs]

Ok. I think I was intimidated by a number which made no sense to me. I think it does now. E.g. "AUD_00125_4352". 4352 is simply a way of distinguishing a different audio track within a clip(4352 should be english, and 4360 could be Portuguese). AUD_00125, is part of VID_00125. It has simply been Demuxed. Sorry, i'm about as green as it gets. I'm more than anything explaining this to myself ;) Ok. But don't confuse that number with languages. It is the PID (packet identifier) that distinguishes elementary streams that are muxed within an M2TS. PID 4352 could be any language (not just English).

[omegaman7]

I mean that 4352 was/is english in this particular M2TS's case. I hope I don't look stupid for this :S

I'm officially throwing my arms up on this BD. I redid The Other Guys exactly as I did the first time, and now the audio is english. It appears some unkown error occurred, and I have no way of knowing what happened :( From now on, I rename the INF files in such a way(1st, 2nd, etc) that BD rebuilder can't overwrite it. It's a shame it doesn't offer doing this for testing purposes. Sorry about any grief I've caused.

Don't ever think for a moment, that you're a bad teacher. I have a problem focusing on things at times. Plus I'm more a hands on guy ;)

[jdobbs]

I mean that 4352 was/is english in this particular M2TS's case. I hope I don't look stupid for this :S I sometimes post answers for the sake of all who are reading, not necessarily just the person who's post I'm answering... that's why I made that clarification.

[omegaman7]

I post answers for the sake of all who are reading, not necessarily just the person who's post I'm answering... that's why I made that clarification.

Ahh, yep yep. That's the general idea for a forum :D

I have now burned a different media for The Other Guys. This burn worked well, so it was not the PS3 updates that were on the disc. I did doubt that LOL! I strongly recommend staying away from Optical Quantum(Philps media). They were decent at first, but now I'm noticing minor - major flaws in the dye's. I usually stick with Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden. But as you all know, they're currently rather spendy :(

[JJB]

Ahh, yep yep. That's the general idea for a forum :D

I have now burned a different media for The Other Guys. This burn worked well, so it was not the PS3 updates that were on the disc. I did doubt that LOL! I strongly recommend staying away from Optical Quantum(Philps media). They were decent at first, but now I'm noticing minor - major flaws in the dye's. I usually stick with Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden. But as you all know, they're currently rather spendy :(

I was not aware Ty made Blu-Ray disc. Do you have a link?

I have made about 150 backups using Optical Quantum (Blu-Ray) burning on 2 LG's and 1 Pioneer and have yet to have a failure verifying with Imgburn or watching them. Your setup maybe?;)

[omegaman7]

No.... I have used lights to reveal dark spots on the dye, which I find highly questionable. My setup is not the issue here. Thankfully! These spots cannot be read by either of my BD drives. They lock up trying to read through the spots. You're lucky you haven't experienced this. TY I don't worry about these spots. Dvds show high failures/errors when scanning with scan software, on these dark spots. TY discs seem to be ok with these imperfections, where as other media are questionable. I imagine BD discs are similarly the same. If you use the Quantum discs, strongly recommend not burning beyond 2X.

I've noticed that NEC chipped drives (Optiarcs) do well with spots like that. They seem to slow and adapt. Man I love nec! Can't wait for a True NEC optiarc Blu Ray burner!

JVC TY makes a BD-R LTH 4X disc, that was available in japan early last year. I haven't seen it in the states yet... :(

[L4a-Thompson]

hello,
i tested the new alternative pal and it works verry well. the sound and the movie streams are synchronous now.
but on the standalone dvd player on my tv i saw the change between the files from the original bd who they was merged by a verry small stop in the video.
if the bd movie have 100 files, i see 100 small stop`s in the merged dvd.
but if i look the dvd on my pc i don`t have these stop`s.

i`m sorry for my english but i do my best to write the right words i hope you guy`s understand my sentence.

a question i have about the subtitles: do you implement the subtitle function for the dvd output?

good night all

[The_Unknown]

@Jdobbs: Big thanks for the last update concerning the playlist linking routine!! This is a pleasure :)

Another question: In all of my backups, the subtitles are activated by default (mostly the English ones) so that I have to disable them while playing everytime. Do I have done something wrong in configure BD-RB?

[omegaman7]

I haven't had a subtitle problem with the BD's yet. Perhaps it's your player?

[The_Unknown]

The bug is in my Philips BDP7500/B2 and in the software players PowerDV 10 and Arcsoft Total Media Theatre :( But it's not really a problem. Just wanted to report it ;)

[omegaman7]

My version of TMT 3 and Powerdvd 10 are fine :confused:

[The_Unknown]

Mhm, don't know. It's strange because I didn't change anything concerning subtitle settings. Well, nevermind ;)

[scsa]

Bug Error 2203 I got it makes you delete your folder for the bd and then gives the error and you are sol because it makes the working files the size of the bd but you can't rebuild it since you have no bdmv or movie folder for it.

[L4a-Thompson]

@jdobbs
i tested the dvd output with the new alternate_Pal and without three times.
it worke`s great, the new alternate_Pal.
my question now: what is the diffrence between my pc and your, that your dvd output is synchronous without the alternat_Pal and i need the alternate_Pal?
are there any setting i have to set?

great work, keep it up!

mfg
Thompson

[colinhunt]

Hmmm... mono tracks are completely legal and BD-RB should handle them, although I'm not sure I have run into any.
I've done several discs that have mono PCM on them without problems. There's something odd about the audio on this particular m2ts file. I'll demux the tracks to see if I can find out anything more.

[jdobbs]

Bug Error 2203 I got it makes you delete your folder for the bd and then gives the error and you are sol because it makes the working files the size of the bd but you can't rebuild it since you have no bdmv or movie folder for it. A little information might help. There is no error 2203 -- that's a location. LOG file? INF file? INI file?

[scsa]

Jdobb I get it when I was using BDRebuilder and it was at 60 percent done it then asked if I wanted to overwrite the folder since there was already a folder with the same name which was the bd movie. I clicked yes and it erased everything and then gave the error. Thanks Oh and here is the error log file
01/04/11 [14:19:45] ScanDirectory() 00071 2603
01/04/11 [23:44:12] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:45:34] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:46:20] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:47:28] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203

[laserfan]

I tried 37.01 yesterday with an eye to the new Power change, my W7 x64 PC normally set to High Perf and "Sleep after 30 minutes", and the PC still went to Sleep/Standby while BD-RB was running:

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 1/4/2011 8:39:28 PM
Event ID: 42
Task Category: (64)
Level: Information
Keywords: (4)
User: N/A
Computer: Quadcore
Description: The system is entering sleep.
Sleep Reason: System Idle

From the BD log it appears it Slept during "Extracting A/V streams (VID_00007)", then I discovered that the PC was asleep and woke it at 21:19, upon which BD-RB dutifully resumed its operations no problem, and then I changed the Power Options to Sleep "Never" so it wouldn't do it again. The remaining processes ran w/o issue for another 14 hours or so and then the PC went to sleep again upon completion, as I'd selected the Shutdown/Sleep option in BD-RB):

- [16:24:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73,191 frames
- Bitrate: 4,668 Kbs
- [16:24:28] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:23:06] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:35:38] Video Encode complete
- [20:35:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:35:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:37:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [21:27:25] Reencoding: VID_00007 (5 of 10)
- [21:27:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 75,266 frames
- Bitrate: 4,666 Kbs
- [21:27:25] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:28:24] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:49:20] Video Encode complete
- [01:49:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:49:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:51:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [02:03:44] Reencoding: VID_00008 (6 of 10)
- [02:03:44] Collecting video information...

I generally love Windows 7, but the aggressive power management changes are very annoying! :devil:

I dunno that this is worth your time to try to fix jdobbs; we users can just turn-off the friggin' PM when using BD-RB. :argh:

[jdobbs]

Jdobb I get it when I was using BDRebuilder and it was at 60 percent done it then asked if I wanted to overwrite the folder since there was already a folder with the same name which was the bd movie. I clicked yes and it erased everything and then gave the error. Thanks Oh and here is the error log file
01/04/11 [14:19:45] ScanDirectory() 00071 2603
01/04/11 [23:44:12] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:45:34] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:46:20] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:47:28] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203 What you're getting is an "Error 00071" at location 2603. Error 00071 means "Disc not ready". It's a hardware issue. You can get it when you are attempting to access a BD/DVD drive that is empty, from a nonexistent drive path, or from something that has been unmounted. Another less likely possiblity is a bad hard drive or a timeout on a network drive. That error is reported to BD-RB from the operating system.

The other errors are just a consequence of the first.

[scsa]

Thanks Jdobb so there is no way to get my movie back because the workfiles are the size of the bd. They are 42gb should I just erase them and not get the movie. Thanks

[jdobbs]

@Laserfan

I'll do some testing. I'm pretty sure I'm doing it right... when I set the flags and then check them from within BD-RB it says they are set correctly. Ughh...

[jdobbs]

I was not aware Ty made Blu-Ray disc. Do you have a link?

I have made about 150 backups using Optical Quantum (Blu-Ray) burning on 2 LG's and 1 Pioneer and have yet to have a failure verifying with Imgburn or watching them. Your setup maybe?;) I've used bunches of Optical Quantum discs too (well over 50)... no problems yet. Of course I guess there is always the chance of a bad batch.

[omegaman7]

Thats why I don't like running networked rebuilds. All that time put in to encoding, it would sure suck to be 99% complete, and have the network fail somehow. I can't seem to load networked folders anyway. I load a folder, and it says "Selected source is not BD format". Aww well. That's why my computers have multiple drives. Rebuilder is one of the few programs I can't network files. I drag folders across the network to any media player without hitch. Windows 7 networking really bothers me. XP I never had these issues. It's quite literally the only problem I have with windows 7 though, so I'll get over it :p

Yep Jdobbs, I got an obvious bad batch. One of the discs was revoltingly bad. I'm talking hundreds of dark spots. And unfortunately, the spots don't show up til burnt :(

[jdobbs]

Thats why I don't like running networked rebuilds. All that time put in to encoding, it would sure suck to be 99% complete, and have the network fail somehow. I can't seem to load networked folders anyway. I load a folder, and it says "Selected source is not BD format". Aww well. That's why my computers have multiple drives. Rebuilder is one of the few programs I can't network files. I drag folders across the network to any media player without hitch. Windows 7 networking really bothers me. XP I never had these issues. It's quite literally the only problem I have with windows 7 though, so I'll get over it :p

Yep Jdobbs, I got an obvious bad batch. One of the discs was revoltingly bad. I'm talking hundreds of dark spots. And unfortunately, the spots don't show up til burnt :( I use BD Rebuilder on my network all the time. In fact one of my computers does all it's disc I/O for video encoding through the nework. It's hard to blame a program for network issues. BD-RB just accesses the drive/data, it has no "special network routine". If there is an issue it is in either the network or the way the drive is shared.

I ran into a bad disc with spots that caused problems last year -- I can't remember the brand, I think maybe Ridata, but it was only one out of many...

[omegaman7]

It's likely something I haven't learned about windows 7. Which comes easily to everyone else :p I share the route of my W:\ drive so that everything is seen on my encoding machine. Perhaps after my next reinstall of windows, the problem will magically disappear LOL!