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Blurayhd
26th April 2015, 10:48
None of that matters, as I said the cinavia fix hooks into CloneBD. You'd still need to process bdrb's output through CloneBD or it will trigger.

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I was tried CloneBD and when I insert the disc on Bluray player an custom menu just appear and when I play the movie every some minutes the movie just freeze

gonca
26th April 2015, 12:32
AmigaFuture
Thanks for the tip

jdobbs
26th April 2015, 13:57
Note there was a change to mkvmerge TrueHD handling in 7.7.0. Read last paragraph:
https://github.com/mbunkus/mkvtoolnix/wiki/TrueHD-and-AC3That explains it.

Thanks.

Glarioo
26th April 2015, 19:18
Is there something changed in "TWEAK_ALTERNATE"?
Just noticed that, in some cases, BD-RB set rc-lookahead to 24. This happens when i use CRF 18. Set CRF to 20, rc-lookahead is 40. The default for rc-lookahead is 40, am i right? Thought i did this tweak somewhere in the past succesfully...

LASTCMD: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --slow-firstpass --qpmin=0 --crf 18 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 40000 --rc-lookahead 40 --stats "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --output "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

Mediainfo: ... / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=40000 / ...

INI file:

jdobbs
26th April 2015, 20:44
BD Rebuilder never changes rc-lookahead -- so the default (for the given quality preset) will always be used (unless you change it). The default value you reference [40] would be applied for the "medium" preset. I believe the default for "--preset slow" (your example command line) is "--rc-lookahead 50".

None of the presets defaults to "--rc-lookahead 24" -- so I have no idea how that could get there unless it is specifically called out with a tweak. IMHO it's better to always leave rc-lookahead at its default.

Here's some info I found online -- I can't vouch for its currency, but it's probably still accurate:–preset Use a preset to select encoding settings [medium]
Overridden by user settings
- ultrafast:
–no-8x8dct –aq-mode 0 –b-adapt 0
–bframes 0 –no-cabac –no-deblock
–no-mbtree –me dia –no-mixed-refs
–partitions none –ref 1 –scenecut 0
–subme 0 –trellis 0 –no-weightb
–weightp 0
- veryfast:
–no-mbtree –me dia –no-mixed-refs
–partitions i8x8,i4x4 –ref 1
–subme 1 –trellis 0 –weightp 0
- faster:
–no-mbtree –no-mixed-refs –refs 2
–subme 4 –weightp 1
- fast:
–rc-lookahead 30 –ref 2 –subme 6
- medium:
Default settings apply.
- slow:
–b-adapt 2 –direct auto –me umh
–rc-lookahead 50 –ref 5 –subme 8
- slower:
–b-adapt 2 –direct auto –me umh
–partitions all –rc-lookahead 60
–ref 8 –subme 9 –trellis 2
- veryslow:
–b-adapt 2 –bframes 8 –direct auto
–me umh –me-range 24 –partitions all
–ref 16 –subme 10 –trellis 2
–rc-lookahead 60
- placebo:
–bframes 16 –b-adapt 2 –direct auto
–slow-firstpass –no-fast-pskip
–me tesa –me-range 24 –partitions all
–rc-lookahead 60 –ref 16 –subme 10
–trellis 2

Groucho2004
26th April 2015, 22:31
None of the presets defaults to "--rc-lookahead 24" -- so I have no idea how that could get there unless it is specifically called out with a tweak.
I'd have to look at the code (probably somewhere in encoder.c) but IIRC, keyint 24 would clamp rc-lookahead to 24.

Sharc
26th April 2015, 23:00
I'd have to look at the code (probably somewhere in encoder.c) but IIRC, keyint 24 would clamp rc-lookahead to 24.
Yes. From my records:
ultrafast => 0
superfast => 0
veryfast => 10
faster => 20
fast,medium,slow,slower,veryslow => 24 (constrained by --keyint)

jdobbs
26th April 2015, 23:44
I'd have to look at the code (probably somewhere in encoder.c) but IIRC, keyint 24 would clamp rc-lookahead to 24.Thanks. I can see how that would make sense.

@Glarioo

If Groucho2004 is correct, then you can just modify the ALTERNATE preset so it is using auto-GOP. Just add:

vKeyint=Auto

to the preset description you are using in ALTERNATE.TXT. That will set the keyint parameter to 10x the frame rate (so it would be 240 rather than 24). Of course that could limit seeking accuracy to about 10 seconds (depending on the player). The only time you wouldn't want to do that is if you are trying to maintain Blu-ray compatibility in your ALTERNATE backup.

Glarioo
27th April 2015, 17:55
Blu-ray compatibility in alternate backup is not so important to me, i play my mkv backups on a Dune mediaplayer.
I'm gonna add vKeyint=Auto --rc-lookahead 50 in TWEAK_ALTERNATE and do a test tonight.
Jdobbs, Groucho2004 and Sharc: thanks for your for your expert explanation. Tomorrow i'm gonna let you know what the results are.

Glarioo
27th April 2015, 19:57
vKeyint=Auto --rc-lookahead 50 didn't do it.

TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 40000 --rc-lookahead 50 vKeyint=Auto

LASTCMD: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --slow-firstpass --qpmin=0 --crf 18 --level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 40000 --rc-lookahead 50 vKeyint=Auto --stats "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --output "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"


Media info: .../ keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=40000 /...

Glarioo
27th April 2015, 20:46
Searching on the internet give me some info:
1. keyint=250 / keyint_min=25
2. keyint=240 / keyint_min=24
I've used the first for a test and this was the result:

INI: TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 40000 --rc-lookahead 50 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 25

LASTCMD: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --slow-firstpass --qpmin=0 --crf 18 --level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 40000 --rc-lookahead 50 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 25 --stats "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --output "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

Mediainfo: ... / keyint=250 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=40000 / ...

Only min-keyint didn't change.

Groucho2004
27th April 2015, 21:14
LASTCMD: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --slow-firstpass --qpmin=0 --crf 18 --level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 40000 --rc-lookahead 50 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 25 --stats "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --output "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"
If you don't need BD compliance, why do you put so many restrictions in your command line (--bluray-compat, --ref 4, --b-pyramid none, ...)? You're using "preset slow" but override several settings of that preset with following switches. That command line makes no sense.

I don't use BD Rebuilder so I think others will be better suited to advise you on the proper settings.

jdobbs
27th April 2015, 21:51
vKeyint=Auto --rc-lookahead 50 didn't do it.

TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 40000 --rc-lookahead 50 vKeyint=Auto

LASTCMD: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --slow-firstpass --qpmin=0 --crf 18 --level 4.1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 40000 --rc-lookahead 50 vKeyint=Auto --stats "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --output "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"


Media info: .../ keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=40000 /...You're not doing it correctly. "vKeyint=Auto" doesn't go on the command line via the TWEAK -- it gets added to the ALTERNATE encoding preset definition in the file called ALTERNATE.TXT. It is found in the MISC folder under the location where BD-RB is installed. Open the file with NOTEPAD and you'll see an explanation at the top and all the ALTERNATE presets following it.

It's done that way on purpose so you can create your own presets if you want.

Sharc
27th April 2015, 22:52
@jdobbs
Is there a specific reason for keeping --bluray-compat in the commandline even when encoding to .mkv alternate output?

jdobbs
27th April 2015, 23:39
Yes. I start with those settings -- and then override those that I want when BD compatibility isn't necessary. I spent a lot of time developing a balance of settings that I believe to give the best results -- and maintains compatibility on the widest variety of players. For example: b-pyramid causes issues on some players (it shouldn't -- but it does). You might want to get better quality with "preset slow" -- but it sets "ref 5" -- which is illegal for BD at 1080p -- so I specifically override it (I like having control and not trusting overall settings like "--bluray-compat" when I'm not checking the code with every release).

Working with these settings for the past several years, responding to bug and incompatibility reports, and knowing the impact is why BD Rebuilder backups always work -- where other software backups sometimes don't.

I personally like to keep BD compatibility in my ALTERNATE backups -- so I can simply mux-and-burn later if I want. Overriding BD compatibility gives very little benefit in most circumstances -- so what's the point? The one obvious exception might be GOP size -- that's why I put that option in the ALTERNATE file. I also have a hidden option that allows you to set b-pyramid to "strict" rather than "none".

Glarioo
28th April 2015, 18:19
You're not doing it correctly. "vKeyint=Auto" doesn't go on the command line via the TWEAK -- it gets added to the ALTERNATE encoding preset definition in the file called ALTERNATE.TXT. It is found in the MISC folder under the location where BD-RB is installed. Open the file with NOTEPAD and you'll see an explanation at the top and all the ALTERNATE presets following it.

It's done that way on purpose so you can create your own presets if you want.

Okay, i see. Thanks.
Is it also possible to change min-keyint? And how do i add that?

Sharc
28th April 2015, 21:13
Yes. I start with those settings -- and then override those that I want when BD compatibility isn't necessary. I spent a lot of time developing a balance of settings that I believe to give the best results -- and maintains compatibility on the widest variety of players. For example: b-pyramid causes issues on some players (it shouldn't -- but it does). You might want to get better quality with "preset slow" -- but it sets "ref 5" -- which is illegal for BD at 1080p -- so I specifically override it (I like having control and not trusting overall settings like "--bluray-compat" when I'm not checking the code with every release).

Working with these settings for the past several years, responding to bug and incompatibility reports, and knowing the impact is why BD Rebuilder backups always work -- where other software backups sometimes don't.

I personally like to keep BD compatibility in my ALTERNATE backups -- so I can simply mux-and-burn later if I want. Overriding BD compatibility gives very little benefit in most circumstances -- so what's the point? The one obvious exception might be GOP size -- that's why I put that option in the ALTERNATE file. I also have a hidden option that allows you to set b-pyramid to "strict" rather than "none".
Understood, makes certainly sense.
I was just wondering why you leave --bluray-compat in, although you set all parameters explicitly anyway for the reasons you explained. But of course double stitching does no harm at all.

max4
28th April 2015, 22:56
hello
I need help with the following error:

[23:24:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- Error in attempt to MKVMERGE.
[23:25:42] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


I've never had this error
What I can do?

thanks in advance

omegaman7
28th April 2015, 23:17
hello
I need help with the following error:

[23:24:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- Error in attempt to MKVMERGE.
[23:25:42] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


I've never had this error
What I can do?

thanks in advance

Failed to retrieve audio during extract(or muxing for that matter) is usually a sign of a bad copy. But without more of your log, or settings, it's hard to say.

max4
28th April 2015, 23:28
Failed to retrieve audio during extract(or muxing for that matter) is usually a sign of a bad copy. But without more of your log, or settings, it's hard to say.

Here is more detailed


[04/28/15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.01
[15:03:59] Source: THE_PRINCESS_AND_THE_FROG_2009_
- Input BD size: 35,19 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:45:27.428]
- Target BD size: 46,26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[15:04:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:04:00] Blanking: VID_00067 (1 of 69)
- [15:04:00] Processing: VID_00100 (2 of 69)
- [15:04:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [15:04:46] Reencoding video [VID_00100]
- [15:04:46] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [15:07:08] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [15:07:08] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- [15:07:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:07:39] Processing: VID_00101 (3 of 69)
- [15:07:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [15:07:58] Reencoding video [VID_00101]
- [15:07:58] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [15:08:27] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [15:08:27] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- [15:08:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:08:38] Processing: VID_00102 (4 of 69)
- [15:08:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00102]
- [15:08:51] Reencoding video [VID_00102]
- [15:08:51] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [15:09:12] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [15:09:12] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- [15:09:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:09:19] Processing: VID_00103 (5 of 69)
- [15:09:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
- [15:09:43] Reencoding video [VID_00103]
- [15:09:43] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [15:10:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [15:10:37] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- [15:10:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:10:51] Processing: VID_00104 (6 of 69)
- [15:10:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [15:11:11] Reencoding video [VID_00104]
- [15:11:11] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [15:11:44] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [15:11:44] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- [15:11:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:11:55] Processing: VID_00105 (7 of 69)
- [15:11:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
- [15:12:33] Reencoding video [VID_00105]
- [15:12:33] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [15:14:23] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [15:14:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- [15:14:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:14:48] Processing: VID_00106 (8 of 69)
- [15:14:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- [15:15:47] Reencoding video [VID_00106]
- [15:15:47] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [15:19:04] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [15:19:04] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- [15:19:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:19:46] Processing: VID_00107 (9 of 69)
- [15:19:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00107]
- [15:20:09] Reencoding video [VID_00107]
- [15:20:09] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [15:20:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [15:20:53] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- [15:20:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:21:05] Processing: VID_00108 (10 of 69)
- [15:21:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- Error in attempt to MKVMERGE.
[15:22:55] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

DoctorM
29th April 2015, 01:00
I made my second or third quick menu'ed disc yesterday (Big Hero 6). Testing it I see it run the animated menu which is somewhat short and then it just stops on a black screen. (I can still make selections, but it is against a silent black screen).

I don't know if my prior BD sources just had longer menus so I didn't notice or if it BD RB is supposed to loop a video like the original disc.

Sharc
29th April 2015, 12:27
I made my second or third quick menu'ed disc yesterday (Big Hero 6). Testing it I see it run the animated menu which is somewhat short and then it just stops on a black screen. (I can still make selections, but it is against a silent black screen).

I don't know if my prior BD sources just had longer menus so I didn't notice or if it BD RB is supposed to loop a video like the original disc.
The quick menu backdrop plays only once. I don't think there is an option to have it looped. Maybe this could become a feature request.

jdobbs
29th April 2015, 13:32
The quick menu backdrop plays only once. I don't think there is an option to have it looped. Maybe this could become a feature request.Yeah. I've been planning to have the menu loop, but I've not gotten around to it.

DoctorM
29th April 2015, 23:59
Yeah. I've been planning to have the menu loop, but I've not gotten around to it.
It looks like a lot of BDs play an initial menu video and when it finishes switches to a different M2TS that can be looped there after.

I don't know if that is even possible to be duplicated.

jdobbs
30th April 2015, 00:41
It looks like a lot of BDs play an initial menu video and when it finishes switches to a different M2TS that can be looped there after.

I don't know if that is even possible to be duplicated.Sure it can be done easy enough. I already find the MPLS for the menu, so finding the two M2TS files is easy. But 90% of the time the second video is just like the first -- except maybe without an intro sequence. So I don't know if it is worth it to take up twice the space for the second M2TS.

AmigaFuture
1st May 2015, 03:56
I've noticed something interesting recently. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed it. First, I thought it to be BD-RB + Alternate MKV. After doing those checks with "Contact" I thought I'd go ahead and have BD-RB make an MKV with the original (since I like commentaries and Scores when included) audio. It processed without errors and my Blu-ray Player wouldn't play it because of something about the video format being "bad" (it would really be sweet if they'd offer more than generic errors..). It's 1080p from the original. Then I used the Alternate 1080p with Intact Audio at Good quality. BD played fine. So, scratching my head...I processed the whole BD with Movie and Menus as BD-25 High Speed. BD Player played the disc. Rechecking some MKVs, I've noticed it's not only "Contact". So, for now, when Alternate MKV *seems to fail* I'll just process as movie only or full BD and use that for an MKV.

jdobbs
2nd May 2015, 02:02
I've noticed something interesting recently. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed it. First, I thought it to be BD-RB + Alternate MKV. After doing those checks with "Contact" I thought I'd go ahead and have BD-RB make an MKV with the original (since I like commentaries and Scores when included) audio. It processed without errors and my Blu-ray Player wouldn't play it because of something about the video format being "bad" (it would really be sweet if they'd offer more than generic errors..). It's 1080p from the original. Then I used the Alternate 1080p with Intact Audio at Good quality. BD played fine. So, scratching my head...I processed the whole BD with Movie and Menus as BD-25 High Speed. BD Player played the disc. Rechecking some MKVs, I've noticed it's not only "Contact". So, for now, when Alternate MKV *seems to fail* I'll just process as movie only or full BD and use that for an MKV.What media are you using for playback of the MKV, and how is it being played (DVD, BD, hard drive -- Direct from media, DLNA)? What preset are you using? Intact? Reencoded?

AmigaFuture
2nd May 2015, 06:24
Here it is with same details as before except less words. MKV played from USB Hard Drive connected to BD Player as well as copied to BD Player's Hard Drive (using BD Players basic copy menu). BD-RB kept as original 1080p. Wouldn't play with BD Player, both ways. Alternate Intact video and audio used to make MKV.

Then played from BD-RW 25 after BD-RB rerendered from Movie & Menu Auto-Blank extras in High Speed Mode (2 pass, DGDecNV).
Saw that functioned as expected in BD Player from disc. Then I used processed BD for Alternate Intact Video (1080p) and Audio MKV. Played fine with BD Player. More helpful? I'm not sure why rerendering it made it different. I haven't had the opportunity to check it further, yet. I don't think it's related to BD-RB, but that's why I typed the question.

jdobbs
2nd May 2015, 14:04
BD Player's Hard Drive? What kind of player has a hard drive? Or possibly it's a hard drive connected via USB?

It sounds as if your player possibly couldn't handle the original bitrate/maxrate when it was packed within an MKV. But that's a stab in the dark. Weird.

Yordan5
4th May 2015, 09:24
I have not kept very much up to date with the development of BDRB for about a year. Have I missed something important with regards to MVC 3D output to ISO as the current version of BDRB refuses to create one (at least on my PC)? I added OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 to the Config. file but it does not seem to work and I keep getting the standard BDMV folder structure instead of ISO. See log below:

[05/04/15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.06
[00:45:05] Source: TEENAGE_MUTANT_NINJA_TURTLES_00000
- Input BD size: 37.00 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:41:18.030]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[00:45:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:45:07] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [00:45:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [01:03:03] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 145,727 frames
- Bitrate: 9,734 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [01:03:03] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:08:13] Video Encode complete
- [08:08:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[08:09:00]PHASE ONE complete
[08:09:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:09:00] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
[08:14:02] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[08:14:02] JOB: TEENAGE_MUTANT_NINJA_TURTLES finished.
-------------------------------------------------------------

[Status]
LABEL=TEENAGE_MUTANT_NINJA_TURTLES
VERSION=v0.50.06
SOURCE_SIZE=39729801216
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=39729801216
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.211986019920186
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=8422162432
RATE=9734
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
---------------------------------------------------

jdobbs
4th May 2015, 12:58
I think your are mistaken, you should check your INI file (which wasn't posted). It appears you don't actually have OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 set. If you did, you would see "Creating MOVIE-ONLY BD-3D ISO..." in your log rather than "Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure"

Crocluvr92
4th May 2015, 13:00
Is there a way to use an older version of BD Rebuilder? I much more prefered the v0.46.13 beta when that came out for example. Any other current version just seems to cut off the last few seconds of clips on things like trailers, music videos or deleted scenes and it's driving me crazy! So again, if there is a way to use an older version can someone please tell me how to do it! Thanks! May the 4th be with you ;)

jdobbs
4th May 2015, 13:03
Is there a way to use an older version of BD Rebuilder? I much more prefered the v0.46.13 beta when that came out for example. Any other current version just seems to cut off the last few seconds of clips on things like trailers, music videos or deleted scenes and it's driving me crazy! So again, if there is a way to use an older version can someone please tell me how to do it! Thanks! May the 4th be with you ;)You can use any version (from v0.49.07 and up) you want, there's nothing to stop you -- just don't post any bug reports on anything but the latest release. There have been a lot of changes since v0.46.13 (that's over a year old), and many of them are very important. So I certainly wouldn't go back. As for "how" -- just download and install.

It would make a lot more sense to give an example of the issue so it can be corrected than to use an old outdated version. I've gotten no other reports of an issue in which anything is missing from the reencodes.

Crocluvr92
4th May 2015, 15:19
You can use any version (from v0.49.07 and up) you want, there's nothing to stop you -- just don't post any bug reports on anything but the latest release. There have been a lot of changes since v0.46.13 (that's over a year old), and many of them are very important. So I certainly wouldn't go back. As for "how" -- just download and install.

It would make a lot more sense to give an example of the issue so it can be corrected than to use an old outdated version. I've gotten no other reports of an issue in which anything is missing from the reencodes.

I understand what your saying, but I have tried to go over this issue for almost a year and no matter how many times I try to correct it, it just keeps doing that and v0.49.07 still causes that and I fear that no matter what I do it will continue with each newer version. I guess I am the Achilles heel of the users. So if you could please tell me the proper steps to using v0.46.13 it would be appreciated because no matter what I do for now, nothing will help. Thanks.

jdobbs
4th May 2015, 15:46
Sorry. But that's just not going to happen. I'm not going to open myself up to releasing old, outdated, buggy beta software. I suggest you give the information I've requested. Any issue can be fixed -- but only if it is expressed in a way that makes it possible to fix it.Any other current version just seems to cut off the last few seconds...Give me an example of a source where this happens.

Crocluvr92
4th May 2015, 15:52
Sorry. But that's just not going to happen. I'm not going to open myself up to releasing old, outdated, buggy beta software. I suggest you give the information I've requested. Any issue can be fixed -- but only if it is expressed in a way that makes it possible to fix it.Give me an example of a source where this happens.

That's the problem, I wouldn't know how. Even if I show you the log, ut will appear correct but the output video cuts off. I guess I can make a screen capture and show you a private link on YouTube if you want a demonstration?

jdobbs
4th May 2015, 16:42
That's the problem, I wouldn't know how. Even if I show you the log, ut will appear correct but the output video cuts off. I guess I can make a screen capture and show you a private link on YouTube if you want a demonstration?What's the title of the disc that displays that problem? That's part of what the log will show. Your settings (config file contents) might also give a clue -- so why not post them? Anything. You can't just expect me to throw down chicken bones on the sidewalk and hope it somehow shows me the bug.

Yordan5
4th May 2015, 19:36
I think your are mistaken, you should check your INI file (which wasn't posted). It appears you don't actually have OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 set. If you did, you would see "Creating MOVIE-ONLY BD-3D ISO..." in your log rather than "Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure"

This is what's in the INI file. I added the last line OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 before starting the job:

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.6
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=F:\WORKING\
SOURCE_PATH=G:\
OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1

jdobbs
4th May 2015, 19:45
@Yordan5

It's in the wrong place. You have it in the [Paths] area. It should be in the [Options] area.

Yordan5
4th May 2015, 19:58
@Yordan5

It's in the wrong place. You have it in the [Paths] area. It should be in the [Options] area.

Thank you for the quick reply. Totally overlooked this.

Yordan5
4th May 2015, 20:16
I think your are mistaken, you should check your INI file (which wasn't posted). It appears you don't actually have OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 set. If you did, you would see "Creating MOVIE-ONLY BD-3D ISO..." in your log rather than "Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure"

After placing the command OUPUT_3D_ISO=1 in the OPTIONS section of the INI file (rather than PATHS like I had it originaly) the log still says Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure but this time it did output to ISO.

[05/04/15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.06
[20:05:12] Source: TEENAGE_MUTANT_NINJA_TURTLES_00000
- Input BD size: 37.00 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:41:18.030]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Resuming from previously started job.
[20:05:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[20:05:14]PHASE ONE complete
[20:05:14]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [20:05:14] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
[20:09:28] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[20:09:28] JOB: TEENAGE_MUTANT_NINJA_TURTLES finished.

Thank you for your prompt assistance.

Lathe
4th May 2015, 23:18
What's the title of the disc that displays that problem? That's part of what the log will show. Your settings (config file contents) might also give a clue -- so why not post them? Anything. You can't just expect me to throw down chicken bones on the sidewalk and hope it somehow shows me the bug.

I don't know... I've heard that you are pretty darn handy with chicken bones... :cool:

fgm
6th May 2015, 22:24
I don't think this is a bug, probably just a lack of understanding on my part. I have 7 DVDs that I wanted to import to a single BD-25. I put all the DVDs in a single folder and it weights in at 28.1 GB. I used the Import – DVD(s) – Quick reauthored to import the DVDs to a BD structure. Now it creates an Imports folder that weights 27.1 GB. OK so I only need to reduce the size by some 20% and it will fit into a BD-25, so let’s process it…. It took more than 24 hours and it created a 87.2 GB ISO! I had a BD-25 target, write to ISO, full backup and no “Quicker” encode for extras.

My guess is that Rebuilder is upscaling from 720x480 to 1920x1080. What am I doing wrong? log and Ini included.

----------------------
[14:45:44] Importing DVD: IMPORT DVD TEST
- Processing DVD title [1 of 7]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [2 of 7]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [3 of 7]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [4 of 7]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [5 of 7]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [6 of 7]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [7 of 7]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[15:28:06] DVD import completed successfully.
==========================
[15:47:11] BD Rebuilder v0.50.06
[15:47:11] BEGIN - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
-----------------------
[15:47:11] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
----------------------
[05/04/15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.06
[15:47:15] Source: IMPORT DVD TEST
- Input BD size: 27.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [10:51:23.159]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow [4-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=192
[15:47:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:47:15] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 8)
- [15:47:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [15:59:09] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 170,158 frames
- Bitrate: 4,669 Kbs
- [15:59:09] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:47:12] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:33:00] Video Encode complete
- [19:33:00] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:33:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:44:20] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 8)
- [19:44:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [19:47:01] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 166,796 frames
- Bitrate: 4,209 Kbs
- [19:47:01] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:28:44] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:58:51] Video Encode complete
- [22:58:51] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [22:58:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:09:17] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 8)
- [23:09:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [23:12:10] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 167,143 frames
- Bitrate: 4,518 Kbs
- [23:12:10] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:54:31] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:28:31] Video Encode complete
- [02:28:31] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [02:28:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:40:44] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 8)
- [02:40:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [02:43:46] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 169,362 frames
- Bitrate: 4,516 Kbs
- [02:43:46] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:25:44] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:01:13] Video Encode complete
- [06:01:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [06:01:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:11:16] Processing: VID_00005 (5 of 8)
- [06:11:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [06:13:56] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 160,675 frames
- Bitrate: 4,523 Kbs
- [06:13:56] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:54:13] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:19:52] Video Encode complete
- [09:19:52] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:19:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:28:52] Processing: VID_00006 (6 of 8)
- [09:28:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [09:31:55] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 158,800 frames
- Bitrate: 4,521 Kbs
- [09:31:55] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:19:34] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:18:01] Video Encode complete
- [13:18:01] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:18:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:28:39] Processing: VID_00007 (7 of 8)
- [13:28:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [13:31:41] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 168,304 frames
- Bitrate: 4,514 Kbs
- [13:31:41] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:16:24] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:03:28] Video Encode complete
- [17:03:28] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [17:03:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:14:26] Processing: VID_99001 (8 of 8)
- [17:14:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_99001]
- [17:14:39] Reencoding video [VID_99001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,068 frames
- Bitrate: 2,056 Kbs
- [17:14:39] Reencoding: VID_99001, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:15:43] Reencoding: VID_99001, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:17:41] Video Encode complete
- [17:17:41] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [17:17:41] Multiplexing M2TS
[17:17:46]PHASE ONE complete
[17:17:46]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:17:46] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[17:17:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:17:47] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:16:28] JOB: IMPORT DVD TEST finished.
==========================
[18:16:28] END - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================


[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.6
MODE=0
MULTIPROCESS=1
FORCE_NOENCODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
ENABLE_TEST=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=10
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
MENU_BACKGROUND=D:\Program Files\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=5
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=5
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=1
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=23
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
ENCODER=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=F:\IMPORT DVD TEST\
SOURCE_PATH=D:\MOVIE BD\IMPORT DVD TEST\

jdobbs
7th May 2015, 00:25
It's not upscaling, your settings verify that. But even if it did -- it wouldn't have an effect on the output size.

I can tell you this, though. If I was working on something that took that long, I certainly wouldn't have REMOVE_WORKFILES=1 set in my INI file. Now to try again, you have to reencode everything.

I'll have to add up all the bitrates and framecounts in the job and see how the target should have sized. But I've never seen an oversize like that before.

Sharc
7th May 2015, 08:01
…. It took more than 24 hours and it created a 87.2 GB ISO! .........
That's strange. From your log I would estimate:
- Total video size: 20.4 GB
- Audio (192 kbps) estimate: 0.9 GB
Including a muxing overhead of say 7% yields 22.7 GB alltogether which looks ok........

musiclover
7th May 2015, 16:53
Am I right in thinking that is it not (yet) possible to compress a blu-ray containing both the 2d and the 3d version of a movie?
I searched this thread, but could not find the answer.

Ch3vr0n
7th May 2015, 17:22
You think wrong. That's perfectly possible, the only catch is that windows 7 or higher is required by FRIM for encoding/decoding that's all.

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musiclover
7th May 2015, 17:52
You think wrong. That's perfectly possible, the only catch is that windows 7 or higher is required by FRIM for encoding/decoding that's all.

Can you give me some pointers how to do this. I tried it twice. The first time I got only 2d and the second time only 3d output.
I run windows 7 64bit.

Ch3vr0n
7th May 2015, 17:59
Pointers? Full disc backup, that's how I did it. Works just fine on even more complicated discs such as resident evil which has 2d, 3d and anaglyph 3d all into 1. All I can say is there has to be something you're doing wrong

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musiclover
7th May 2015, 18:19
Pointers? Full disc backup, that's how I did it. Works just fine on even more complicated discs such as resident evil which has 2d, 3d and anaglyph 3d all into 1. All I can say is there has to be something you're doing wrong

1. Full backup. In settings "Enable SBS 3d movie-only output" NOT enabled. Results in only 2d output.

2. Full backup. In settings "Enable SBS 3d movie-only output" enabled. Results in only 3d output.