BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

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When i got my mind set to do something, you can bet your ass i'll try every damn method i can find. Even if it's in some obsure post i only found on 1 site. Turned out to be the working one too. Just a note though, after i attached that dummy plug. My main monitor no longer showed the ROG logo upon boot (applies to accessing bios too), no screen until lock screen. Seems like the onboard hdmi takes priority over that. Plug the monitor into that one and yup, visuals. But hardware decoding/encoding at least on my end currently results in severe artifacts.

So if the potentially artifact resolving tweak above doesn't fix the glitching, i'll disable QS again in the bios. I can live with a slower encode, i can't live with video artifacts :)

I don't wish to sidetrack this thread but I did want to reply to your post.

I still use DVI for my monitor. It works for my system and it's easier to setup, IMO. After adding the HDMI dummy, enabling iGFX in the BIOS, installing the drivers in Windows, etc, things are just the same at boot time. Still see the same graphics, etc, leading to logging into Windows. I'm going to speculate this is related to my using DVI for my discrete graphics which you aren't doing.

If this needs to be moved then that's fine. My apologies.

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[Ch3vr0n]

actually my primairy display is hooked up via DVI to the discrete gfx, cause the hdmi is used for a standalone blu-ray player hooked (cause primairy monitor is a 3D one and so's the player). I'll tinker some more with it over summer break (1 month off work) perhaps. I know the workaround if i have to (simply hook the monitor up to the on-board hdmi). In the mean time, waiting on @jdobbs to release that test build with the potential artifact fix :)

[ggtop]

There has to be some voodoo magic at play here.

Definitely. I'll do some more testing. I just loaded the original into BDRB rather than mounted ISO with the same effect.

Maybe someone elase has the disc "The Maze Runner" as well and can try it....

ggtop

[ggtop]

There has to be some voodoo magic at play here.

Update: Copied the whole content from the mouted ISO to disk and opened that folder. That works!

Maybe something in Virtual Clone Drive...doing some more testing.

Update 2: Just tried another tool for mounting images (WinCDEmu) which behaves the same as Elby's VCD. No idea!

ggtop

[Mark_Venture]

When i got my mind set to do something, you can bet your ass i'll try every damn method i can find. Even if it's in some obsure post i only found on 1 site. Turned out to be the working one too. Just a note though, after i attached that dummy plug. My main monitor no longer showed the ROG logo upon boot (applies to accessing bios too), no screen until lock screen. Seems like the onboard hdmi takes priority over that. Plug the monitor into that one and yup, visuals. But hardware decoding/encoding at least on my end currently results in severe artifacts.

So if the potentially artifact resolving tweak above doesn't fix the glitching, i'll disable QS again in the bios. I can live with a slower encode, i can't live with video artifacts :)
On my Asus Z710-Deluxe, there is a BIOS option (on the screen where you enable the iGPU), to select iGPU or PEG as the primary adapter. I have mine set to PEG, and the GTX970 is the primary monitor and works for the bios and video before windows starts.

Oh, I'm using an HDMI splitter that I had laying around, instead of the plug you linked to. While it shows as a video card and monitor (to extend my desktop too), I haven't tried any encoding software or anything yet...

[Ch3vr0n]

I fixed the no video on boot yesterday. Primary display was set to igpu by mistake

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[Yordan5]

I am still struggling to pinpoint what caused the massive increase in transcoding time with BD-RB for the past year or so.
I keep images of my system from various points in time and yesterday did a test.
Restored an image from April 2014 that had BD-RB 47.05 installed and set the PC date back to 27-April-2014 so that BD-RB 47.05 would work (not give the expired message). Below are the details of a movie I did back then and as you can see it had taken less than two hours to complete with the highest quality setting.

[04/27/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.05 (beta)
[20:58:17] Source: CLOSED_CIRCUIT_00000
- Input BD size: 25.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:01.546]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
[20:58:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:58:17] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [20:58:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:01:04] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 138,139 frames
- Bitrate: 5,481 Kbs
- [21:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:26:27] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:53:15] Video Encode complete
- [22:53:15] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[22:55:02]PHASE ONE complete
[22:55:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:55:02] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[22:55:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:55:47] JOB: CLOSED_CIRCUIT finished.

Yesterday, with the same movie and settings and with the same hardware and software installed (image restoration) from the same point in time, took over 14 hours to complete the same movie.
I am at my wits end to understand what is causing this. Beginning to think there may be a motherboard issue developing. In the past BD-RB with the highest quality setting never took more than 3.5 hours to complete a transcode. Now it is taking in excess of 12 hours on the same hardware.

[Ch3vr0n]

@jdobbs any progress yet on that 3d test build?

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[mparade]

Hello there,

Here BD-RB doesn't want to reconfigure the default LAV settings during the first run as admin. It has only been struggling with it for several minutes and doesn't open finally. Task Manager tells it looks a very CPU and memory intensive process for BD-RB. I have win10 64 bit OS, anyone has an idea? I run it as admin as it is recommended in the first post of this thread.

Any help would be appreciated.

I have found a page that states I should buy some "PC scan and repair tool" from Reimage to make BD-RB open correctly.

[worknstiff]

@ Yordan5; RE: less than two hours to complete with the highest quality setting.

- Input BD size: 25.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:01.546]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass

WHAT QUALITY? If you are putting that much video on a DVD+R WHY???? You can buy quality BD-R's for the same price as DVD+R's now and not have to worry so much about the highest quality compression.

[musiclover]

I always wondered why I couldn't get BDRB to make a dvd from a 50 fps source. But today it went flawless after I unchecked the option "Assume PAL for DVD output". So I think BDRB has a bug that allowes it to make a NTSC dvd from a 50 fps source but fails to encode a PAL dvd from the same source.

Here is the log:
---------------------
[17:05:39] Importing TS: BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND
- Preparing TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[17:10:40] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------

This is the attempt to make a PAL dvd
----------------------
[05-26-18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[17:12:11] Source: BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND
- Input BD size: 1.81 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:44:57.079]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:12:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:12:11] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:12:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:13:58] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1280x720
- Rate/Length: 50.000fps, 134,854 frames
- Bitrate: 8,776 Kbs
- [17:13:59] Reencoding: VID_00000
[17:14:11] - Failed video encode, aborted
----------------------

And this is making the NTSC dvd
----------------------
[05-26-18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[17:14:40] Source: BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND
- Input BD size: 1.81 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:44:57.079]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:14:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:14:46] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:14:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:16:37] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1280x720
- Rate/Length: 50.000fps, 134,854 frames
- Bitrate: 8,776 Kbs
- [17:16:37] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [17:52:38] Video Encode complete
- [17:52:38] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[17:53:06]PHASE ONE complete
[17:53:06]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:53:06] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [17:53:06] Starting MPLEX.
- [17:55:26] Building DVD File Structure.
[17:58:37] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:58:38] JOB: BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND_DVD finished.

[Lathe]

I am still struggling to pinpoint what caused the massive increase in transcoding time with BD-RB for the past year or so.
I keep images of my system from various points in time and yesterday did a test.
Restored an image from April 2014 that had BD-RB 47.05 installed and set the PC date back to 27-April-2014 so that BD-RB 47.05 would work (not give the expired message). Below are the details of a movie I did back then and as you can see it had taken less than two hours to complete with the highest quality setting.

[04/27/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.05 (beta)
[20:58:17] Source: CLOSED_CIRCUIT_00000
- Input BD size: 25.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:01.546]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
[20:58:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:58:17] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [20:58:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:01:04] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 138,139 frames
- Bitrate: 5,481 Kbs
- [21:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:26:27] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:53:15] Video Encode complete
- [22:53:15] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[22:55:02]PHASE ONE complete
[22:55:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:55:02] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[22:55:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:55:47] JOB: CLOSED_CIRCUIT finished.

Yesterday, with the same movie and settings and with the same hardware and software installed (image restoration) from the same point in time, took over 14 hours to complete the same movie.
I am at my wits end to understand what is causing this. Beginning to think there may be a motherboard issue developing. In the past BD-RB with the highest quality setting never took more than 3.5 hours to complete a transcode. Now it is taking in excess of 12 hours on the same hardware.

Wow! For that high of a setting and that much compression, that is REALLY fast Bro! You must have one of the first working prototype Quantum Computers...

[Lathe]

@ Yordan5; RE: less than two hours to complete with the highest quality setting.

- Input BD size: 25.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:01.546]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass

WHAT QUALITY? If you are putting that much video on a DVD+R WHY???? You can buy quality BD-R's for the same price as DVD+R's now and not have to worry so much about the highest quality compression.

Heh... well, that IS true :) However, be that as it may, the point here is that he IS doing that (for better or worse) and doing it DAMN fast! I'd sure love to know which Photon processor and what Holographic memory he is using... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif

[Yordan5]

In today’s terms my PC is a little outdated:

Intel Core i7-4770K (no overclocking)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750
RAM: 8 Gb
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45
Windows 7 64bit

What I cannot understand is why after an image restore on the same hardware, with the same software, to the same point back in time when it was taking no more than 3.5 hrs in the worst case scenario movie, now it takes overnight to complete the same movie.

Leaving the discussion "why I'm shrinking movies to 4.35 Gb" aside (I do it for quality comparision purposes), I'd really like to understand the tremendous increase in system's time to perform the same exercise.

Initially I thought It was the new versions of x264 and x265 included with BD-RB and thought the image restore test with BD-RB from that point in time should work the way it did back then. No hardware or software changes.
I keep Automatic Updates turned off on my system and unless somehow it has managed to install an update for “Meltdown” or “Spectre” into the processor itself, or a possible hardware fault developing, I cannot think of much else. This issue is only affecting BD-RB.

[varekai]

@Yordan5
I'm amazed that you only got 3.5 hours at that compression!
Why do you compress that much? Please explain?
If this was an BD-RB issue there would be lots of posts here.

You could use this tool to enable/disable “Meltdown” and “Spectre”.
Check if you have protection enabled, if that is the case disable it.
Reboot your machine and do a new encode.
You can then enable “Meltdown” and “Spectre”.
https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm

[Ch3vr0n]

Windows itself loads spectre/meltdown patches on boot (if you don't have bios ones). That said, they affect windows and windows only. There's NO IMPACT on third party applications at all. Disabling them even for a minute is a bad idea

[Yordan5]

@Yordan5
...
Why do you compress that much? Please explain?
...


As I mentioned in my post, I do it for Quality comparison purposes.
I check the Picture Quality of a very compressed copy (4.35 Gb, English stereo audio) against the PQ of a copy that has been compressed around 50% of the original (keeping original English audio track). I have to say that I am pressed to tell the difference on a 65 inch TV. I also do checks against CloneBD results and BD-RB always wins, but these are just my personal findings.
I always preferred to do movie transcodes with BD-RB (taking between 2 and 3.5 hrs) instead of CloneBD that takes around 15 min. to do the same job with Nvidia hardware acceleration enabled but producing slightly inferior Picture Quality.
However, now that BD-RB takes overnight for such tasks, using the other software makes a more compelling case.
I am fairly certain it is not BD-RB causing this “issue” and that is why I am trying to understand what else it might be.
By the way, the tool you linked to states that my system does not have Intel microcode installed for Spectre and Meltdown, so that’s ruled out.

[Lathe]

As I mentioned in my post, I do it for Quality comparison purposes.
I check the Picture Quality of a very compressed copy (4.35 Gb, English stereo audio) against the PQ of a copy that has been compressed around 50% of the original (keeping original English audio track). I have to say that I am pressed to tell the difference on a 65 inch TV. I also do checks against CloneBD results and BD-RB always wins, but these are just my personal findings.
I always preferred to do movie transcodes with BD-RB (taking between 2 and 3.5 hrs) instead of CloneBD that takes around 15 min. to do the same job with Nvidia hardware acceleration enabled but producing slightly inferior Picture Quality.
However, now that BD-RB takes overnight for such tasks, using the other software makes a more compelling case.
I am fairly certain it is not BD-RB causing this “issue” and that is why I am trying to understand what else it might be.
By the way, the tool you linked to states that my system does not have Intel microcode installed for Spectre and Meltdown, so that’s ruled out.

Wow, I guess that just shows how really good BDRB is...

(uh oh... JD's head is getter bigger!)

[Yordan5]

Wow, I guess that just shows how really good BDRB is...

(uh oh... JD's head is getter bigger!)

As JD has stated several times, it is x264 producing the amazing PQ after compression. BD-RB is giving us the tools to play with the settings of the encoder.

[jdobbs]

As JD has stated several times, it is x264 producing the amazing PQ after compression. BD-RB is giving us the tools to play with the settings of the encoder.BD-RB does a whole lot more than that... but, yes, X264 should get the credit for the high quality encodes.

[Jake802]

Is there anyway to get BD Rebuilder and RipBot to exist together? Once I run RipBot it installs some sort of modified version of AviSynth and the only way to get BD Rebuilder to work is uninstall all my AviSynth's and reinstall normal AviSynth.

[Blurayhd]

Jdobbs As we know Bd rebuilder has an option for shutdown the computer when the jbo is finish but sometimes I let my computer all night encoding but for some razon the encoding just abort and my computer obviously dont turn of, so because that I wish to ask you there´s any possibility that you can add an option for shutdown the computer even if the encoding job just get any error? So Bd rebuilder detect the job was interrupted and just shutdown? I´ll so appreciate it, if you could add this function?

[varekai]

Is there anyway to get BD Rebuilder and RipBot to exist together? Once I run RipBot it installs some sort of modified version of AviSynth and the only way to get BD Rebuilder to work is uninstall all my AviSynth's and reinstall normal AviSynth.
Look here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1836151#post1836151

[MrVideo]

I have a really weird problem. (Win7-64)

Here is the log:[06:12:26] Importing: VIDEO_1
- [06:12:28] Importing video file: (1 of 1)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [06:13:32] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[06:13:43] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[06:13:51] Importing: VIDEO_2
- [06:13:53] Importing video file: (1 of 1)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [06:15:27] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[06:15:36] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[06:15:43] Importing: VIDEO_3
- [06:15:44] Importing video file: (1 of 1)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [06:17:31] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[06:17:41] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[06:30:53] Importing: S3-D3
- [06:31:04] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[06:32:27]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
----------------------
[06:41:46] Importing: S3-D3
- [06:41:51] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[06:43:38]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
----------------------
[06:45:51] Importing: S3-D3
- [06:45:58] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[06:46:40]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
----------------------
[06:57:18] Importing: S3-D3
- [06:57:29] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[06:58:51]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
----------------------
[14:18:39] Importing: S3-D3
- [14:18:46] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[14:20:05]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
BDRB has no issues when the videos are worked on separately. But, do it with any two and BDRB errors out. Unfortunately BDRB does not report what the source issue is. Therefore, no idea what it is trying to correct.

As a side note, the first two discs worth of videos had no issues. Just tried working on D4, but it has other issues. So, I converted a M2TS file to MKV and BDRB said that it had inconsistancies. Huh? It was the same program the converted the D3 files to MKV and BDRB didn't complain about those.

Not my day.

[Lathe]

I have a really weird problem...

We know... and that is why we all here really try to be understanding and patient with you...

[jdobbs]

I always wondered why I couldn't get BDRB to make a dvd from a 50 fps source. But today it went flawless after I unchecked the option "Assume PAL for DVD output". So I think BDRB has a bug that allowes it to make a NTSC dvd from a 50 fps source but fails to encode a PAL dvd from the same source.
...Can you show the content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set?

[musiclover]

Can you show the content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set?

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,576)
ConvertToYV12().ConvertFPS(25000,1000)
------------------------------------------------

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" NOT set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,480)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(50000,1000)

[MrVideo]

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,576)
ConvertToYV12().ConvertFPS(25000,1000)
50 frames/sec is not a legal DVD frame rate. Not even a legal BD frame rate. 25 fps is the 576i/p frame rate. So, the ConvertFPS is correct.
content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" NOT set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,480)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(50000,1000)
Again, 50 fps is not a legal value. For 480i/p video, the legal frame rate is 30 (29.97). So, the AssumeFPS is incorrect on two counts.

[Sharc]

50 frames/sec is not a legal DVD frame rate. Not even a legal BD frame rate. 25 fps is the 576i/p frame rate. So, the ConvertFPS is correct.

Again, 50 fps is not a legal value. For 480i/p video, the legal frame rate is 30 (29.97). So, the AssumeFPS is incorrect on two counts.

Well, 1280x720 16:9 progressive 50 fps is a legal BD format

[jdobbs]

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,576)
ConvertToYV12().ConvertFPS(25000,1000)
------------------------------------------------

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" NOT set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,480)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(50000,1000)This makes no sense to me based on the code I looked at yesterday. The fist one is what I would expect to see with that setting... and I have no idea why it would generate an error. The second one should be impossible when your output is set to DVD.

I guess I'll have to grab me a 720p/50fps source and trace it to see how it can happen.

[MrVideo]

Well, 1280x720 16:9 progressive 50 fps is a legal BD format
Not for the image sizes under discussion.

[jdobbs]

@musiclover

Well at least I know why you are getting the error with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set. BD-RB was improperly using ConvertFPS(). In that instance is should have been using ChangeFPS() so frames would be dropped.

[musiclover]

@musiclover

Well at least I know why you are getting the error with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set. BD-RB was improperly using ConvertFPS(). In that instance is should have been using ChangeFPS() so frames would be dropped.

And shouldn't the same go for when "Assume PAL for DVD output" is NOT set?

[jdobbs]

And shouldn't the same go for when "Assume PAL for DVD output" is NOT set?That is a different problem -- especially why it keeps it at 50fps. I just haven't looked at that yet.

[musiclover]

That is a different problem -- especially why it keeps it at 50fps. I just haven't looked at that yet.

There is no hurry. Thanks for the quick respons.

[Blurayhd]

Dear Jdobbs please dont get me wrong with this I need to ask you and my English is not perfect but as you know Im doing my best. The other day I need to make a backup copy of one of my Bd50 Bluray movies so, BD rebuilder show me an error and I have to use a third program (I writing that correct?) DVDfab with GPU encode movie and that program do the job in almost 40 minutes and the image on my tv 55 was amazing, so because that I so wish to ask you if BD rebuilder could have the GPU encode option I´ll get the same best quality that if I encode with x264? Please Jdobbs if Im breaking any rules please let me know and forget this post I really appreciate Bd rebuilder, I use it and I really hope the next release. I so wish if you can answer me that

Please have a nice day!!

[jdobbs]

I'll tell you... you are not getting the same quality from anywhere else that you can get from X264. Also, the generic term "GPU" could mean multiple things as there are more than one kind of GPU.

Now, if I understand correctly, you are asking me to change my Mercedes so it performs more like a Fiat because you tried the Fiat and it was good enough for you. Does that sum it up?

[Lathe]

I'll tell you... you are not getting the same quality from anywhere else that you can get from X264. Also, the generic term "GPU" could mean multiple things as there are more than one kind of GPU.

Now, if I understand correctly, you are asking me to change my Mercedes so it performs more like a Fiat because you tried the Fiat and it was good enough for you. Does that sum it up?

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/doh.gif

[MrVideo]

I had to re-run a build because I needed to change the background menu image. But, for some reason it now fails:
BD Master Toolkit experienced an error 4000 (17:16:53)
Create Quick Menu() 00076 4000
During: Building menu structure [1]
Current progress 98.90%

I tried it twice. The reason for that is because I also keep getting Permission errors, which go away with a 2nd run. It would be nice to know why I keep getting permission errors.

UPDATE: BDRB is constantly getting BD Master Toolkit errors.

FOUND THE BUG:

MENU_ITEMS_PAGE=6
Kinda works. If there are 17 videos, only two menus are created, when there should have been 3 (6, 6, 5)
MENU_ITEMS_PAGE=4,3,2
Fails with the BD Master Toolkit error. There are 9 videos in the case, If I set it for 5/page, then it works.

I'm pretty sure that I've done a comma separated list before, but it was on the XP-64 box. This is on the Win7-64 box.

BUG UPDATE:

I wanted to look at the menus for the run that only created 2 with 17 items. But, the overall size was too large for the media, so I re-ran it with one less video (16 total) and it created 3 menus.

I've been testing all morning and it is hit-n-miss. Sometimes the comma separated page list works and sometimes it doesn't. I've not found a pattern. Need more info in the log as to why it is failing. I'm hoping that it isn't my W7 that is the issue.

It just might be. I copied all of the files for one of the discs to the XP-64 box and it ran to completion.

[Mark_Venture]

I'll tell you... you are not getting the same quality from anywhere else that you can get from X264. Also, the generic term "GPU" could mean multiple things as there are more than one kind of GPU.

Now, if I understand correctly, you are asking me to change my Mercedes so it performs more like a Fiat because you tried the Fiat and it was good enough for you. Does that sum it up?I have to agree, I'm very happy with your "Mercedes" as it is.. don't change it! :D

I've tried other apps to back up my blurays... but I keep using BD-Rebuilder... the others use "GPU acceleration" like Cuda or QuickSync, etc.. so while they are much faster (especially if I've already ripped the bluray to my hard drive)... their resulting video quality isn't as good.

For example, one other tool I can convert a 2D Movie Only MKV in 15 minutes or less from hard drive, where as BD-RB it takes about an hour. No matter what settings I use, while it make take a little longer, the MKV produced by BD-RB always looks better, so the wait is worth it!


If you ever feel the desire to add "GPU", please make it an option, so we can select/deselect it...

[Sharc]

@musiclover

Well at least I know why you are getting the error with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set. BD-RB was improperly using ConvertFPS(). In that instance is should have been using ChangeFPS() so frames would be dropped.
Would it perhaps make sense to make an interlaced DVD out of the 1280x720 50fps progressive source, instead of dropping every 2nd frame?

[jdobbs]

Would it perhaps make sense to make an interlaced DVD out of the 1280x720 50fps progressive source, instead of dropping every 2nd frame?You'd essentially be doing the same thing -- as you'd have to drop every even or odd line of alternating frames during encoding if you made it interlaced. Personally I'd rather have a 25fps progressive souce than an interlaced one.

[Sharc]

You'd essentially be doing the same thing -- as you'd have to drop every even or odd line of alternating frames during encoding if you made it interlaced. Personally I'd rather have a 25fps progressive souce than an interlaced one.
Yes, but I was thinking of preserving the temporal resolution for high motion scenes. The bobbing deinterlacers of TVs are pretty good these days.
A matter of the source and personal preference, probably.

[MrVideo]

Yes, but I was thinking of preserving the temporal resolution for high motion scenes. The bobbing deinterlacers of TVs are pretty good these days.
But, you will lose the temporal resolution when the two fields are joined into one. You have to display the interlaced video as interlaced in order to keep it. But, no TV does interlaced these days.

[Blurayhd]

I'll tell you... you are not getting the same quality from anywhere else that you can get from X264. Also, the generic term "GPU" could mean multiple things as there are more than one kind of GPU.

Now, if I understand correctly, you are asking me to change my Mercedes so it performs more like a Fiat because you tried the Fiat and it was good enough for you. Does that sum it up?

Jdobbs you are amazing buddy I so appreciate your sense of humor, you make me laugh and I never change your Bd rebuilder, like I said I had to use that other program with GPU mode because and error and because that my question.

Bd rebuilder is the only think that I really trust on quality terms and if you can tell when you spect to relese next release?

PS: could you add the option to extract the audio/subtitle files so I dont need other program else? I mean, I so wish to use Bd rebuilder for all

[Jake802]

Look here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1836151#post1836151

I will! Thanks!

[Sharc]

But, you will lose the temporal resolution when the two fields are joined into one. You have to display the interlaced video as interlaced in order to keep it. But, no TV does interlaced these days.
The monitors are progressive, yes, but the TV or player will deinterlace (bob-deinterlace) interlaced content (broadcasted or from DVD or BD) without just throwing one field away and loosing the temporal resolution. How it is exactly done depends on the (smart) playback device.
Many TV station broadcast HD at 1080i, means interlaced, and the TV takes care of smart deinterlacing and playing it back at double rate (or even higher) without disregarding the temporal information which is available in the source.
So if the temporal resolution is available in a source, one might be interested in preserving it (at the cost of spatial resolution in motion scenes), which would eventually mean encoding as interlaced in the case of DVD.
Just a thought, not a request for BD-RB, as there are pros and cons.

[MrVideo]

The monitors are progressive, yes, but the TV or player will deinterlace (bob-deinterlace) interlaced content (broadcasted or from DVD or BD) without just throwing one field away and loosing the temporal resolution. How it is exactly done depends on the (smart) playback device.
I didn't say it would throw a field away. The two fields are combined into a single frame, reducing the temporal info in half.
Many TV station broadcast HD at 1080i, means interlaced, and the TV takes care of smart deinterlacing and playing it back at double rate (or even higher) without disregarding the temporal information which is available in the source.
Not many, but all broadcast TV, in the states anyway, is 720p or 1080i. No 1080p. It depends on the TV. those that do not do 60, 120, or more, will do as I mentioned, and combine the two fields into a single frame.

[MrVideo]

I've run into an issue of text vertical placement. I only have two lines that I want to place starting at 950, but BDRB refuses to place the text there. Instead it is placed around 200. Is there a lower limit?

[jdobbs]

I've run into an issue of text vertical placement. I only have two lines that I want to place starting at 950, but BDRB refuses to place the text there. Instead it is placed around 200. Is there a lower limit?Are you talking about menu text? If so, look at the MENU_HORIZONTAL, MENU_VERTICAL, and MENU_TOP hidden options. There is an upper limit of 910 on MENU_VERTICAL and MENU_TOP, I'm guessing that's your issue? If you go above that it defaults to 200.