BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[worknstiff]

Wonder if anyone else has this problem but me. Did 12 Rounds in DVD-9 movie only and plays fine all the way thru but chapter skip or FF freeze up Panasonic BD-30 player. Haven't tried in any other player yet. Movie looks great but this problem bugs me because it is the only one this has happened on. I even burned 2 copys to see if that was the problem. Movie has the new MKV14 encryption and the chapter numbers are listed as 001 and 002 etc. anyone else have this prob? thanks

[Kakashi Sensei]

Has anyone been able to successfully back up Coraline to BD25? its got 2 movie tracks, the 2D and 3D. The 2D movie (the one i want) will not play, it freezes on playback on the PS3. However!! the 3D movie plays flawless with no stuttering or freezeing.

If anyone has any advice, settings or something i'm doing wrong, please advise.

[worknstiff]

Hello, I am trying to figure out space on a BD25. In BD_Rebuilder the default target size after selecting BD25 is ( 22.46 ). If I select Custom size of 24500 MB in setup and select it as custom size it returns a target size of ( 23.93 ). If I understand correctly a BD-R has a gross capacity of 25,025,314,816 bytes or decimal 25.025 GB or 23.307 binary. So is the target size stated in decimal or binary? If I get the near the target size of ( 23.93 ) will it fit on a BD-R or have I wasted 15+ hours encoding a file too big? Sorry if this has all ready been covered some where else but I can't figure it out. thanks

[worknstiff]

Has anyone been able to successfully back up Coraline to BD25? its got 2 movie tracks, the 2D and 3D. The 2D movie (the one i want) will not play, it freezes on playback on the PS3. However!! the 3D movie plays flawless with no stuttering or freezeing.

If anyone has any advice, settings or something i'm doing wrong, please advise.

Sorry all I backed up was just 2D to BD9 and it plays flawlessly. PQ is outstanding.I looked at the 3D on disk and I didn't see much of the 3D stuff on my plasma to make it worth keeping.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Sorry all I backed up was just 2D to BD9 and it plays flawlessly. PQ is outstanding.I looked at the 3D on disk and I didn't see much of the 3D stuff on my plasma to make it worth keeping.

Realistically I dont want the 3D movie as well. But i dont know how to do a BD25 with only the 2D movie. If i did that then the movie wouldn't need to be re-encoded.

[bassnut]

@bassnut;


Did you try it with keep HD audio, DTS HD Master audio ?
If so, does it play back on a standalone ?
Also, do you have an HDMI receiver capable of playing DTS HD Master audio ?
The movie backed up fine for me, but only silence from the DTS HD Master audio track when played back on my BX1.
It plays the DTS HD Master audio fine on the PC though.

Just burnt the movie to disk and it plays back as always. It's been along time since I have had any problems with BD Rebuilder. I have always kept HD Audio since it was enabled and for the most part just backup to BD25.

My System is ..

Sony BDP-S350 Player
Sony HT-SF2300 5.1 home theater

TMT3 shows the Audio Stream as DTS MASTER and BDP-S350 shows it as DTS3/2.1 48KHZ

[nelly09]

hey im a newbie to this forum but ive used bd rebuilder several times. I did benjamin button to bd25 full backup (using 24.02 beta), i didnt change any settings and when finished it had sync problems, audio lagged by a second or 2, then i backed up to bd9 "movie only" and had the same problem, i didnt burn it onto a bd-r to test it on the ps3, i just made an image and played it on powerdvd9. I had the same problem with 27 dresses to bd25 full backup. i have backed up many movies onto bd25 and bd9 that have come out flawless, i havent had a chance to skim through all the pages yet to see if anyone else had this problem but could you tell me what the problem could be?

[GaPony]

hey im a newbie to this forum but ive used bd rebuilder several times. I did benjamin button to bd25 full backup (using 24.02 beta), i didnt change any settings and when finished it had sync problems, audio lagged by a second or 2, then i backed up to bd9 "movie only" and had the same problem, i didnt burn it onto a bd-r to test it on the ps3, i just made an image and played it on powerdvd9. I had the same problem with 27 dresses to bd25 full backup. i have backed up many movies onto bd25 and bd9 that have come out flawless, i havent had a chance to skim through all the pages yet to see if anyone else had this problem but could you tell me what the problem could be?

Try the newest version... A software player isn't the most reliable method of testing the playback.

[Chefkoch_ico]

A software player isn't the most reliable method of testing the playback.
Why not? SAP dont have Software running? You even see from the duration between necessary updates of players, that SAP are not even better in quality.

I tried Bourne Identity and Hellboy 2 (both Universal Titles with PiP) with PiP processing enabled in BD-RB 25.03. Full to BD25.

The main movie still does not play with PowerDVD.
What can I say? It works on "real players" -- which to me is the test.

I did not expect you to comment this, its just a bug report.

Just did Kung Fu Panda which has AC3+ as PiP-Audio, the other titles had DTS HD. Same problem.

And AFAIK, Panasonic players suffer from the same problem.

[drmih]

I think that the issue is Powerdvd - I switched to TMT3 and have not looked back since. If it plays on TMT then I know that when it's burnt to disc that it will play on my standalone. I have 2 versions of Powerdvd installed (7.3 + 8) and some discs play with 7.3 but not 8 and vice versa. I don't know which one you're using but you can't rely on Powerdvd to say whether a encode is good or not.

[jdobbs]

Well, this looks like exactly the same problem I had with The Day The Earth Stood Still and on a different SAD (Sony BDP-S550), This disc also has no audio on the PiP...

jdobbs, maybe there's a bug in the way PiP is handled if there is no audio...Is BDRB "expecting" an audio stream to be present and doing something wrong because there genuinely isn't one present on the original? As said already AC3+ with PiP is working perfectly for me with all discs I have tried, about 6 I'm not sure what is going on with this disc or why you're having issues in BD-25 mode.

I tested this on my BDP-360 and I have the same issues as always on BD-9 -- no audio and no selections can be made. But when I burn the exact same set of files to a BD-25, it plays back with sound and the PiP works perfectly.

[jdobbs]

Just found a bug with 2504, loaded in madagascar 2 region B, full back up to BD 25 keeping HD audio etc, and the pip video for the main video track is crossed out and won't let you select it for re-encode, but the 2nd audio is selected. Reinstalled 2402 and the pip video is correctly selected but the 2nd audio isn't won't??? I don't think what you are seeing is a bug. Check the value of "PROCESS_SECONDARY=" which was implemented in v0.25.01. Secondary streams are not processed unless it is set to "1". (documented in the change log)

[jdobbs]

Hello, I am trying to figure out space on a BD25. In BD_Rebuilder the default target size after selecting BD25 is ( 22.46 ). If I select Custom size of 24500 MB in setup and select it as custom size it returns a target size of ( 23.93 ). If I understand correctly a BD-R has a gross capacity of 25,025,314,816 bytes or decimal 25.025 GB or 23.307 binary. So is the target size stated in decimal or binary? If I get the near the target size of ( 23.93 ) will it fit on a BD-R or have I wasted 15+ hours encoding a file too big? Sorry if this has all ready been covered some where else but I can't figure it out. thanks I guess I don't understand what you're saying. Binary only has two digits "0" and "1". You can never use the numbers that hard-drive manufacturers use to try and make their drives sound larger... A gigabyte is always a gigabyte (1073741824 bytes) -- not 1 billion bytes.

24500MB is the same thing as 23.93GB (24500 / 1024 = 23.92578)

25,025,314,816 bytes is equal to 23866MB which is equal to 23.30GB

Remember: 1 GB = 1024MB, 1MB = 1024KB, 1KB = 1024 bytes

Also remember: Estimates are estimates, and are not exact. If you set the output to 23866, you are very probably going to oversize. I'd suggest using the defaults.

[Furiousflea]

I'm not sure what is going on with this disc or why you're having issues in BD-25 mode.

I tested this on my BDP-360 and I have the same issues as always on BD-9 -- no audio and no selections can be made. But when I burn the exact same set of files to a BD-25, it plays back with sound and the PiP works perfectly.

I'm not talking about that!

I'm talking about 1 disc that I own where the original has...

1. PiP
2. No audio for PiP (THE ORIGINAL)
3. Disc is called "The Day The Earth Stood Still"


All my other discs that have PiP are working fine, however all of them HAVE an audio track for the PiP video...I thought this might just be a quirk and "my fault"...

But I am experiencing the exact same as what someone else is and they are using a different player.....But the common eleement is NO Audio track for the PiP video on their original disc.


So I have now done

8 discs that have AC3+ and PiP - All work perfectly
1 disc that has PiP only - Freezes at PiP point.

(Please forgive my tone, I'm not begging for a fix it's just I think you've got the wrong impression from your response. Only reason I'm making a big deal out of this and not putting it down to a problem at my end is because another user is reporting the same problem and has completely different player.)

:)

[Furiousflea]

I'm not sure what is going on with this disc or why you're having issues in BD-25 mode.

I tested this on my BDP-360 and I have the same issues as always on BD-9 -- no audio and no selections can be made. But when I burn the exact same set of files to a BD-25, it plays back with sound and the PiP works perfectly.

Sorry for my tone before, it looks like you do understand the problem. (disc plays, audio plays...PiP appears...freeze on BD25)

I'm sure it will start to manifest with other people and it will be a bug but until then. It's just the 1 disc :)

[jeffy]

I guess I don't understand what you're saying. Binary only has two digits "0" and "1". You can never use the numbers that hard-drive manufacturers use to try and make their drives sound larger... A gigabyte is always a gigabyte (1073741824 bytes) -- not 1 billion bytes.

24500MB is the same thing as 23.93GB (24500 / 1024 = 23.92578)

25,025,314,816 bytes is equal to 23866MB which is equal to 23.30GB

Remember: 1 GB = 1024MB, 1MB = 1024KB, 1KB = 1024 bytes

Also remember: Estimates are estimates, and are not exact. If you set the output to 23866, you are very probably going to oversize. I'd suggest using the defaults.

There are kilobytes and kibibytes...

kB vs. KiB, MB vs. MiB, GB vs.GiB
1 000/1 024, 1 000 000/1 048 576, 1 000 000 000/1 073 741 824 bytes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(data)
http://www.iec.ch/zone/si/si_bytes.htm
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html

[Atak_Snajpera]

There are kilobytes and kibibytes...

kB vs. KiB, MB vs. MiB, GB vs.GiB
1 000/1 024, 1 000 000/1 048 576, 1 000 000 000/1 073 741 824 bytes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(data)
http://www.iec.ch/zone/si/si_bytes.htm
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html

Windows and probably Linux as well still use GB as 2^10. Memory manufactures also use 2^10. However for unknown reason hard drive manufactures always were using 10^3 !?! I'm also confused with Kbps. Some audio/video encoders use 1024 and some like x264 use 1000. However in communication they use 2^10 rule . 1Mbps = 1024Kbps = 1048576 bps.

[Capsbackup]

Just burnt the movie to disk and it plays back as always. It's been along time since I have had any problems with BD Rebuilder. I have always kept HD Audio since it was enabled and for the most part just backup to BD25.

My System is ..

Sony BDP-S350 Player
Sony HT-SF2300 5.1 home theater

TMT3 shows the Audio Stream as DTS MASTER and BDP-S350 shows it as DTS3/2.1 48KHZ

Thanks for your reply. I mostly don't have a problem with BD-RB either. Just this one disc of the four Die Hard movies will not play the DTS HD Master audio on my BDP-BX1 only. PowerDVD and TMT play back fine, even the DTS HD Master audio. But the BX1 has only silence for that track.
Looks like your receiver may not be capable of DTS HD Master playback if it only shows the core (DTS3/2.1).
Every other movie I have tried with either DTS HD Master audio or Dolby True HD have worked flawlessly.

[Shuttle99]

Not sure what the problem is but I have converted 3 movies so far with 25.04 and all 3 have bad audio, sounds like a bad speaker connection crackle tried it on two different systems and does it on both. These are BD9 conversions. Going back to 24.02 which has never done that.

[Capsbackup]

I have just tested my first movie with PiP and Dolby Digital Plus secondary audio, Batman Begins, region A, NTSC, to BD-25 with keep HD audio( Dolby True HD), with PiP enabled. Backup completes successfully, burn to BD-RE for playback on my Sony BX1.
My BX1 is set to play audio direct, not mixed, so on my initial test, no audio is heard from the secondary audio track.
If I change the BX1 to mixed rather than direct, then the audio plays back.
However, now my receiver only says PCM on either the Dolby Digital track or the Dolby True HD track.
The original Blu-Ray does not require me to change the audio mode to mixed for the secondary Dolby Digital Plus track to be heard.
So, have I sacrificed HD audio for PiP audio to be heard by changing the BX1 to mixed mode ?
Is the HD audio ( Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master ) still being played at HD quality when the BX1 is set to mixed and the receiver says PCM ?
Also noticed that BDInfo says the secondary audio of the original DD Plus track is 192kbps 2.0/48kHz/192kbps.
BDInfo says BD-RB's backup is Dolby Digital Plus 2.0/48kHz, no Bit Rate or Bit Rate in the description column. What does this descrepancy mean, if any ?

This PiP option does seem encouraging, but I have noticed that most of my Blu-Ray's have DTS Express for the secondary audio, which I believe is still not an option for BD-RB or tsMuxeR.

EDIT:
I see Furiousflea has reported a similar finding to this back on page 204, post #2077, for the Sony S550.
I am still curious about my questions though.

[jdobbs]

Sorry for my tone before, it looks like you do understand the problem. (disc plays, audio plays...PiP appears...freeze on BD25)

I'm sure it will start to manifest with other people and it will be a bug but until then. It's just the 1 disc :) Yeah. But it's driving me nuts. Something is hiding in there, and if I find it, it may be the root of other errors too.

[jdobbs]

There are kilobytes and kibibytes...

kB vs. KiB, MB vs. MiB, GB vs.GiB
1 000/1 024, 1 000 000/1 048 576, 1 000 000 000/1 073 741 824 bytes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(data)
http://www.iec.ch/zone/si/si_bytes.htm
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html No. There are kilobytes and there is gibberish. A computer is a binary machine, everything works and is annotated in powers of 2. People who know this stuff don't argue that point.

If you were talking about a kiloton, kilometer, or a kilowatt I would agree. But kilobyte, megabyte, gigabyte, and terabyte all have a fixed finite value, not a wishy-washy "maybe" or "what if".

[Furiousflea]

Yeah. But it's driving me nuts. Something is hiding in there, and if I find it, it may be the root of other errors too.

lol I can only offer my sympathy mate. :)

I'm sorry but I also have to add another "problem" disc, Kung Fu Panda has the same freezing when the PiP appears. This one however DOES have an audio track for the PiP...So there goes my theory :(

Sorry dude.

[Furiousflea]

Here's a bit of info, using my Sony S550 for playback.

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+)

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point...(All AC3+ except TDTESS which doesn't have an audio track present on PiP track)

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E

[Capsbackup]

Here's a bit of info, using my Sony S550 for playback.

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+)

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point...(All AC3+ except TDTESS which doesn't have an audio track present on PiP track)

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E

Are you able to still play your HD audio, either DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD with your S550 set to audio mixed ?
My BX1, if set to mixed, makes my HDMI receiver say "PCM" . The secondary DD Plus will now play and is heard though. I am not sure if the HD audio is still being sent and played back though.
I guess my ears may not be able to tell, but my eyes see PCM and not Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master. :rolleyes:
It would be nice to know, since it may help me make the decision if PiP is in my future backups or not. :confused:

[Sharc]

@laserfanFrom previous postings by "jdobbs", it's apparent to me that the intent regarding "One-pass (Experimental)" is to obtain the best possible quality result by, among other things, using (logically) as much disc space as is available.

My report of the result of using the "One-pass (Experimental)" is primarily intended to let "jdobbs" know that there appears to be a bug in his most recent algorithm regarding ending filesize - not to be personally satisfied or dissatisfied with the visual results (which is presented just as a sidenote)...
What was the crf sequence you got?
You may want to increase the sample size to say 3% instead of the default 1% according to jdobb's post here, and check it's influence on the sizing:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1306763#post1306763

Main benefit of 1-pass crf encoding is saving time compared to 2-pass coding.

[worknstiff]

just for the record Watchmen Movie Only BD-r ( Movie only custom size 24500). Target size was 23.93 GB = Actual size returned 23.2 GB. This was all default settings except custom size. File just barely fit on BD-r at 24.93 GB ( which is darn close to 25 GB ) Whoopie! But played fine on TMT3 and plays fine on DMP-BD30 excellent PQ looks just like original. BUT!! CHAPTER SEEK & FF FREEZE Player. Have to eject to continue, but if left alone plays fine.

[scissors]

No. There are kilobytes and there is gibberish. A computer is a binary machine, everything works and is annotated in powers of 2. People who know this stuff don't argue that point.

If you were talking about a kiloton, kilometer, or a kilowatt I would agree. But kilobyte, megabyte, gigabyte, and terabyte all have a fixed finite value, not a wishy-washy "maybe" or "what if".


I'm surprised you let yourself get drawn into this. Particulary as the opening message of your own thread clearly states it's for reporting bugs only....

[worknstiff]

I'm so sorry about commenting on being confused about the maximum files size on BD-r 25 disks anyhow. I was really just wanting to know why if you put custom size at 24500 why it was showing 23.93 as targeted size. I am stingy with my few BD-25 and wanted the maximum amount of pure video quality on my 6 dollar verbatium disk. I go by the WEHS (where eyes hit screen) method of video copying. That is where I want the most emphasis placed IMO. I do care about all the full disk and PIP stuff in theory but for six bucks I don't need to have all the bells and whistles, just the maximum quality WEHS. LOL! Again sorry to have hit a sore point, just don't like only using 22.4 GB on a 25 GB disk if it will really hold every last "BITE" of 25 GB of actual bytes.

[Furiousflea]

Are you able to still play your HD audio, either DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD with your S550 set to audio mixed ?
My BX1, if set to mixed, makes my HDMI receiver say "PCM" . The secondary DD Plus will now play and is heard though. I am not sure if the HD audio is still being sent and played back though.
I guess my ears may not be able to tell, but my eyes see PCM and not Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master. :rolleyes:
It would be nice to know, since it may help me make the decision if PiP is in my future backups or not. :confused:

This is completely normal. All S550s do it, for original and backups. The problem is that the S550 cannot decode DTS Master Audio and PiP audio and mix them both and output...But it CAN for TrueHD and PiP audio.

So, if you have a DTSMA track on the main disc but have your audio output to "mix" in the S550 settings menu, you will ALWAYS only hear normal DTS at 1.5mbits.

TrueHD is not affected by this limitation and the S550 can output TrueHD+PiP audio at full lossless resolution...

There are positives in that you can only hear the "clicks" and "wooshes" on menus when you have it set to "mix". Also you can only hear PiP audio if it is set to "mix".

The reason you have PCM audio on your amp is because when "mix" is set. The player decodes all audio then mixes it together and then outputs an LPCM surround track.

I wrongly assumed that it would recode everything back to the format of the main audio tracks codec and then output. But thinking about it that is obviously not the case.

Seeing "PCM" on your amp\receiver is nothing to worry about and just means you have "mix" set on. It would appear your model works the same way as the S550.

EDIT - Just to clarify, with "mix" set on you will only hear the lossy core for DTS Master Audio, but you WILL hear HD Audio for TrueHD.

[DaMacFunkin]

How do you implement blanking? Have i missed something? I went on hols for a month and am strugling to catch back up...

[Capsbackup]

@Furiousflea;
Thank you for the explanation.
After purchasing a new HDMI receiver just for Blu-Ray HD audio, and reading the instructions from my Sony BX1, direct audio rather than mixed is the proper setting to play the Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master audio. But for secondary audio, mixed is the setting to select.
Seems odd to have to change the settings for the audio for the BD player to either be able to hear the secondary audio for PiP or HD audio for most normal movie playback. Menu selection options on the BD discs, for PiP feature, don't reference this necessary BD player audio change to enable this feature. ( nor will most people change it back and forth )
For me, unless something changes, it is looking like PiP viewing may need to stay with the original and not my backups. :(

[jdobbs]

@Furiousflea;
Thank you for the explanation.
After purchasing a new HDMI receiver just for Blu-Ray HD audio, and reading the instructions from my Sony BX1, direct audio rather than mixed is the proper setting to play the Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master audio. But for secondary audio, mixed is the setting to select.
Seems odd to have to change the settings for the audio for the BD player to either be able to hear the secondary audio for PiP or HD audio for most normal movie playback. Menu selection options on the BD discs, for PiP feature, don't reference this necessary BD player audio change to enable this feature. ( nor will most people change it back and forth )
For me, unless something changes, it is looking like PiP viewing may need to stay with the original and not my backups. :( I'm starting to feel the same way.

[Furiousflea]

I'm starting to feel the same way.

lol, maybe...

But in reference to Capsbackup post, his originals behave in exactly the same manner!!!!

His problem has nothing to do with BDRB, it's just the player...Go have a look Caps, you'll see your originals will have NO SOUND for PiP audio track if you have output set to "direct".

[Furiousflea]

@Furiousflea;
Thank you for the explanation.
After purchasing a new HDMI receiver just for Blu-Ray HD audio, and reading the instructions from my Sony BX1, direct audio rather than mixed is the proper setting to play the Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master audio. But for secondary audio, mixed is the setting to select.
Seems odd to have to change the settings for the audio for the BD player to either be able to hear the secondary audio for PiP or HD audio for most normal movie playback. Menu selection options on the BD discs, for PiP feature, don't reference this necessary BD player audio change to enable this feature. ( nor will most people change it back and forth )
For me, unless something changes, it is looking like PiP viewing may need to stay with the original and not my backups. :(

but your originals will behave in exactly the same way ;)

It's just a quirk of the player and the crappy beta technology that is "Blu-Ray". :)

[tekmobile]

lol, maybe...

But in reference to Capsbackup post, his originals behave in exactly the same manner!!!!

His problem has nothing to do with BDRB, it's just the player...Go have a look Caps, you'll see your originals will have NO SOUND for PiP audio track if you have output set to "direct".

I don't bother with PiP tracks partly for this reason

My player is set to direct and like all players will not pass Menu/PiP audio on originals either

It would of been great if the BD Spec/Disc incorporated a function that tells the player when to mix (menu's, movie w/PiP etc) and when to do direct (main movie etc) or the players in general were intellegent enough to know

[GaPony]

I'm so sorry about commenting on being confused about the maximum files size on BD-r 25 disks anyhow. I was really just wanting to know why if you put custom size at 24500 why it was showing 23.93 as targeted size. I am stingy with my few BD-25 and wanted the maximum amount of pure video quality on my 6 dollar verbatium disk. I go by the WEHS (where eyes hit screen) method of video copying. That is where I want the most emphasis placed IMO. I do care about all the full disk and PIP stuff in theory but for six bucks I don't need to have all the bells and whistles, just the maximum quality WEHS. LOL! Again sorry to have hit a sore point, just don't like only using 22.4 GB on a 25 GB disk if it will really hold every last "BITE" of 25 GB of actual bytes.

Just buy $3.50 Ritek discs instead and you won't have to be so stingy. :)

Sometimes... just making the copy bigger, doesn't necessarily make it any better. Most of the space is used by the audio anyway.

You might even be joyfully amazed at what you can do with copies to BD9. ;)

[Capsbackup]

but your originals will behave in exactly the same way ;)

It's just a quirk of the player and the crappy beta technology that is "Blu-Ray". :)

You are correct.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Here's a bit of info, using my Sony S550 for playback.

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+)

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point...(All AC3+ except TDTESS which doesn't have an audio track present on PiP track)

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E
Furiousflea - what are your settings for Matrix Series? All the encodes i do have choppy playback. Found the original source to playback smooth but every encode i do w/PiP and w/o PiP i just can't get it to encode properly.

Thanks
KS

[Furiousflea]

Furiousflea - what are your settings for Matrix Series? All the encodes i do have choppy playback. Found the original source to playback smooth but every encode i do w/PiP and w/o PiP i just can't get it to encode properly.

Thanks
KS

I don't use any specific settings, tried 2 pass\1 pass experimental\fast\slow\everything really. I don't select strict compliance...

Ummm....Could just be your player? Or your discs?

[Furiousflea]

Just done Resident Evil Degeneration...That also has the "Freezing"...

I've noticed that ALL Warner Bros PiP discs work Perfectly...

Anything else has the freezing.

Updated working\non working...

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+) These are all Warner Bros discs except RE Extinction...

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction (screen gems)
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point... These are Dreamworks\Universal\other.

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E
Resident Evil Degeneration
Added Pinnochio


I've noticed that the Warner Bros discs are all in a set style in terms of structure most likely due to being clones of their HDDVD counterparts, they don't have anything crazy like more than 1 PiP video track and all have AC3+ for audio...

jdobbs there must be some bug somewhere, maybe have a look at the differences between Warner Bros discs and others and see if you can find anything?....good luck :)

[Capsbackup]

@Furiousflea;
Does your Batman Begins backup have audio sync for the main movie?
I can notice a significant audio ahead of video, possibly as much as 250ms on my Region A backup.

[Furiousflea]

@Furiousflea;
Does your Batman Begins backup have audio sync for the main movie?
I can notice a significant audio ahead of video, possibly as much as 250ms on my Region A backup.

Yes it does appear out of synch, mine is Region B but I believe they are all the same between regions in this case.

It appears out of synch with and without PiP enabled.

I believe this has been discussed before about this disc, maybe not here but I'm quite sure that the disc has some authroing messups to be out of synch and this is exacorbated when enabling PiP due to the extra processing\mixing etc.

[jdobbs]

I don't bother with PiP tracks partly for this reason

My player is set to direct and like all players will not pass Menu/PiP audio on originals either

It would of been great if the BD Spec/Disc incorporated a function that tells the player when to mix (menu's, movie w/PiP etc) and when to do direct (main movie etc) or the players in general were intellegent enough to know Actually it does. There's a register that gets set when secondary is to be mixed. But I guess the player doesn't watch it.

[doffot]

help me ...! problem fast and furious 2009 low bitrate
problem for vc-1 1080i

[Kakashi Sensei]

I don't use any specific settings, tried 2 pass\1 pass experimental\fast\slow\everything really. I don't select strict compliance...

Ummm....Could just be your player? Or your discs?

Dont think its the PS3. when i play back the backup video in TMT3 and PS3 its the same result. Wierd, guess i'll just have to live without a backup for these ones lol.

Might give it one more shot and if its a fail then i give up and on to new movies :) thanks for the info.
KS

[chudm]

Dont think its the PS3. when i play back the backup video in TMT3 and PS3 its the same result. Wierd, guess i'll just have to live without a backup for these ones lol.

Might give it one more shot and if its a fail then i give up and on to new movies :) thanks for the info.
KS

dont think its the ps3, the ps3 its one of the best player i had tested! only had problems with full backup to bd9/5, but full backup to bd25 never had problems!

[SLOVEHEART]

I just tried BD rebuilder - first I tried a reduction of a BD50 to dvd9, the disk that I created was unsupported by my Panasonic BD80 with 24p off. Next I tried a BD25 output, it was playable, but there are many lines of green letters on the upper left hand part of the screen that do not go away, how can these be gotten rid of, what setting controls this - or are these just part of the output?

[setarip_old]

@SLOVEHEART

Hi!

1) What is the title of your original BluRay disc?

2) What software and procedures did you use to rip it?

3) Please post the EXACT "many lines of green lettering" that appear

[jdobbs]

Just done Resident Evil Degeneration...That also has the "Freezing"...

I've noticed that ALL Warner Bros PiP discs work Perfectly...

Anything else has the freezing.

Updated working\non working...

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+) These are all Warner Bros discs except RE Extinction...

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction (screen gems)
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point... These are Dreamworks\Universal\other.

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E
Resident Evil Degeneration
Added Pinnochio


I've noticed that the Warner Bros discs are all in a set style in terms of structure most likely due to being clones of their HDDVD counterparts, they don't have anything crazy like more than 1 PiP video track and all have AC3+ for audio...

jdobbs there must be some bug somewhere, maybe have a look at the differences between Warner Bros discs and others and see if you can find anything?....good luck :) Could you check something for me? Can you open up the original source on the ones that don't work with BDEdit and see if they all have Interactive Graphics on them? (IG)

I've found a disc that freezes like you described when it hits the PiP (Star Trek, the original series, Season 1, Disc 1). It has IG (which as far as I can tell isn't supported by TSMUXER). My copy of "Day the Earth Stood Still" doesn't have it, and (as I've mentioned) it works fine on my player. I'm looking to see if yours is different.

Kinda grasping at straws... :)