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Furiousflea
14th March 2009, 20:01
After previously blaming all x264 failures on bad rips, I now have one which is puzzling me, and my detection method. I have a rip of 300 which I was doing full disc, and on an extra it gave the 'x264 stopped working' message. I identified the stream and played it with MPC and sure enough it was blocky and pixelated. Normally I would re-rip it but in this case I double checked by playing the rip with powerdvd. It was perfect and no sign of any damage. Given this I tried to resume the job but I still get x264 errors, although typically at different percentages through.
Am I missing something obvious?
Simple mystery to solve :)
300 was released at the same time as HD DVD version. Virtually all HD DVDs were encoded completely (including extras) in VC1. So basically I bet that the only difference between 300 on bluray is that it has PCM audio on Bluray. What you describe is classic symptoms of interlaced VC1 content.
PowerDVD can play it fine because it has the nessacary inbuilt decoder to decode it correctly, however this decoder is not available outside the program as a direct show filter or whatever so that is why...
PowerDVD - plays fine
Generic media player using ffdshow codec - blocky mess
Edit - just because the extras play as a blocky mess doesn't mean it's a bad rip. They could be interlaced VC1 - or a bad rip. I dunno, I've ripped a fair few blurays and NONE have been "bad rips". The only bad rips I hear of are when the scene release groups get ahead of themselves and upload some crap to usenet with the BD+ protection still on the disc (usually just after BD+ has been updated and AnyDVD HD hasn't).
Most "normal" people wouldn't get hold of the disc before AnyDVD HD has been updated to support it anyway. Bad rips are ridiculously rare unless you have some faulty memory\hard drive on the blink. If you're getting them often to a "chkdsk" scan and see what turns up, bad sectors can be marked as bad and you can still use the drive as normal if that is the case. Failing that run "memtest" from a bootable CD and check your memory...Finally if you have got a disc much earlier than release date and it's not working wait for an AnyDVD HD update. Slysoft release updates in their forum before the final releases as stop gap measures.
drmih
14th March 2009, 20:22
Thanks - do I remember a setting where you can get the programme to exclude m2ts files under a certain size as I could do it as a bd-25 and not re-encode the troublesome extras?
jdobbs
14th March 2009, 20:48
What can I say I'm a moron. I just clicked it and unchecked it. I guess I should be banned. FuriousFlea we all can't be geniuses. I just ask a question. It could have been answered simply. You don't have to spend 3x the time pointing out how stupid I am, Implying how smart you are.
So so we're clear on this, it's not your fault, it's mine. I spend way too much time writing code and way too little time writing documentation.
Furiousflea
14th March 2009, 21:02
Thanks - do I remember a setting where you can get the programme to exclude m2ts files under a certain size as I could do it as a bd-25 and not re-encode the troublesome extras?
It's in the changelog for latest version ;)
MikeyBK
14th March 2009, 21:46
What can I say I'm a moron. I just clicked it and unchecked it. I guess I should be banned. FuriousFlea we all can't be geniuses. I just ask a question. It could have been answered simply. You don't have to spend 3x the time pointing out how stupid I am, Implying how smart you are.
So so we're clear on this, it's not your fault, it's mine. I spend way too much time writing code and way too little time writing documentation.
Nobody's fault at all... we've all had those moments datman... sometimes if the answer is too simple we tend to overlook it because we are looking for something complicated as the answer...lol :D. I'm sure we've all done that.
Anyways, furiousflea could easily add screenshots to his guide, that would help more for some....
That would free up JD's time to continue his modifications to the awesome BD-Rebuilder he has created for us...
klas
14th March 2009, 21:53
The last version have problems with Powerdvd 8. I can see with Powerdvd 7 but Powerdvd 8 detect avchd not bluray.
regards
Furiousflea
14th March 2009, 23:07
Nobody's fault at all... we've all had those moments datman... sometimes if the answer is too simple we tend to overlook it because we are looking for something complicated as the answer...lol :D. I'm sure we've all done that.
Anyways, furiousflea could easily add screenshots to his guide, that would help more for some....
That would free up JD's time to continue his modifications to the awesome BD-Rebuilder he has created for us...
I'm on the case :)
tyau
14th March 2009, 23:18
The last version have problems with Powerdvd 8. I can see with Powerdvd 7 but Powerdvd 8 detect avchd not bluray.
regards
Which build of PowerDVD 8 do you have? The latest build, 2217, which I downloaded directly from Cyberlink 3 days ago doesn't have this problem. Though the build 2521 that is available mainly in torrents have the exact problem you are describing.
tyau
14th March 2009, 23:28
Wow... that is pretty basic guys.... you really didn't know that you could double-click each audio to enable or disable audio (or Subtitle) streams?
As rmeyers is stating, you could've simply disabled that 2 channel English audio and enabled the TrueHD English stream...
I am not sure if my problem is similar to datman's, but with one of the earlier versions (0.18.xx) of BD-RB and a couple of blu-ray that I tested, the audio could not be enabled with mere double clicks. The DTS-HD was simply not on the list of audio options.
Unfortunately I forgot which movie it was. I have made many more backup copies since then.
...Where's the initiative gone to these days...It's beyond belief. I wouldn't be surprised if a gang of monkeys could have worked that out together. You know one of those news reports when they show how some monkey managed to press a correct sequence of buttons for some munch...Itsn't this at that level?
Brick wall!
If being compared to monkeys is the response I get for reporting bugs and errors, then I guess I will refrain to do so in the future. My apologies for bringing idiocy to the community.
MikeyBK
15th March 2009, 00:03
then I guess I will refrain to do so in the future.
We all still have to report what we think are bugs..... if it turns out to be user inflicted, then no worries, easy to fix right...lol
I remember having an issue with The Secret Life of Bees, and reported it as a bug, was kinda pffffttt at because it seemed that there was no way it could be like I reported.
However it was, that BD had two main movie playlists, but each with completely different audio streams (both English Multichannel DTS-HD) that could not match up if crossed... and I had chosen the first audio stream but the longer second playlist was chosen by BD-RB... the result was some of the content woith completely wrong audio... When I went back and selected the second main audio stream, with BD-RB choosing the second main movie playlist, the audio then matched up.
Completely unique to this Bluray, I reported it as a bug and was in a way accused of pre-processing but I hadn't, ended up that it was indeed an issue if Blurays were authored in this way...... I had to be sure to select the correct main audio stream to match up with the playlist BD-RB chose.
So don't feel squemish about reporting what you feel might be a bug, it's the only way to rule it out. Even if it ends up being something you could've fixed yourself, betterr than not saying anything and continuing to live with something that could very easily be adjusted...
BTW, I didn't mean to come across as harsh, if I sounded that way, my apologies... I was just mentioning that it was pretty easy to fix. Cheers ;)
Chefkoch_ico
15th March 2009, 00:15
Which build of PowerDVD 8 do you have? The latest build, 2217, which I downloaded directly from Cyberlink 3 days ago doesn't have this problem. Though the build 2521 that is available mainly in torrents have the exact problem you are describing.
Dont tell wrong things. I downloaded this:
http://update.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/powerdvd/8/CyberLink.2521_DVD081231-02.exe
more than a week ago. And its also linked on the download page too.
Btw. I dont do BD5 or BD9 but BD25 are working normal as they should.
Bye
turbojet
15th March 2009, 08:23
After previously blaming all x264 failures on bad rips, I now have one which is puzzling me, and my detection method. I have a rip of 300 which I was doing full disc, and on an extra it gave the 'x264 stopped working' message. I identified the stream and played it with MPC and sure enough it was blocky and pixelated. Normally I would re-rip it but in this case I double checked by playing the rip with powerdvd. It was perfect and no sign of any damage. Given this I tried to resume the job but I still get x264 errors, although typically at different percentages through.
Am I missing something obvious?
I had the same problem with 300. It is a few of the bigger interlaced VC-1 streams that have the issue. What I did was setup cyberlink to decode it by setting the merits in graphstudio and it worked. This is also another workaround (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138603). I wouldn't use cyberlink for all VC-1 streams though as I've seen it freeze a frame and continue to display it until the runtime is up, x264 really speeds up in these cases. WMVideo DMO (WMV9 in ffdshow) handled these streams just fine.
BTW this isn't really a BD-Rebuilder issue at all, I don't know if jdobbs can do anything about it either. I've tried contacting people involved in libavcodec with no luck and I'm not even going to try contacting microsoft as I think trying to contact them without knowing them is a lost cause.
Maybe jdobbs can put something in the original post in big bold as we have a lot of posts in this thread that involve decoder issues.
it's not a bug actually only me being stupid but still i hope someone can help me out:
bd rebuilder failed with the final rebuilding - because the target drive was FULL
not being familiar with bd structures at all and because this was my very first go with bd rebuilder, can someone tell me how to "repeat" the final phase of rebuilder after having gone through hours of encoding?
with dvd-rb i'd have tha chance of using 3-click and then simply repeating rebuild-step but what can can do with bd rebuilder?
tekmobile
15th March 2009, 14:29
it's not a bug actually only me being stupid but still i hope someone can help me out:
bd rebuilder failed with the final rebuilding - because the target drive was FULL
not being familiar with bd structures at all and because this was my very first go with bd rebuilder, can someone tell me how to "repeat" the final phase of rebuilder after having gone through hours of encoding?
with dvd-rb i'd have tha chance of using 3-click and then simply repeating rebuild-step but what can can do with bd rebuilder?
If you just press the backup button it should just prompt you asking if you want to continue from where you let off.
thanks, tekmobile - it did the magic
didn't dare to do so as i thought i'd repeat the entire encoding process.
good solution, jdoobs!
Furiousflea
15th March 2009, 15:55
thanks, tekmobile - it did the magic
didn't dare to do so as i thought i'd repeat the entire encoding process.
good solution, jdoobs!
Just make sure if it happens again that you don't change ANYTHING at all in a panic. If you do it won't give you the option to continue :)
NexGen76
15th March 2009, 17:45
I was doing BD-25 i had max QT setting & also had do not convert DTS to AC3 checked.......I lost my Log that's why couldn't post it.But my finish product over shot the target by 500MB.Blu-Ray Movie was King Kong using BD-RB 0.20.03.Just wanted to know if anyone else had this issue before ? Thxs
Chefkoch_ico
15th March 2009, 18:17
I was doing BD-25 i had max QT setting & also had do not convert DTS to AC3 checked.......I lost my Log that's why couldn't post it.But my finish product over shot the target by 500MB.Blu-Ray Movie was King Kong using BD-RB 0.20.03.Just wanted to know if anyone else had this issue before ? Thxs
Hi!
To not need to reencode all, reenoce some of the xtras with lower bitrate.
I made a small batch script, which logs all x264 commands, so you can easily encode with lower bitrate and rebuild.
@echo off
:start
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo new last cmd found...
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING -n 10 127.0.0.1>nul
goto start
Just let it run during BD-RB.
Bye
DaMacFunkin
15th March 2009, 18:28
Wanted Region B doesn't seem to work Both in my Panasonic BD30 and Power DVD 8, i have tried it with a few versions of BD Rebuilder and with a couple of different settings and it hangs at the same place on both players, even from a built image file of the output. The original full rip plays fine in power dvd 8 so something else must be wrong. Here is a list of what Happens:
1. Universal Logo Plays fine.
2. Top Menu to select audio (on the last encode i did i chose to keep japanese audio as well as this is the first audio track) choose either japanese or english as audio.
3. Shows copyright languages in whatever language was chosen.
4. Now shows Java Loading bar.
5. Shows Main menu in whatever language you chose. (note all the extras play fine)
6. Choose play movie option - disk (or image file) freezes.
With the original rip as an image file, at option 6. press play, i can tell from the info window on power dvd 8 that the files quickly cycle through different DTS audio settings within a couple of seconds - i.e. DTS 5.1 750kbps - DTS HD 5.1 1536 Kbps - DTS Master HD audio at whatever very large audio rate that is. Also with the the original Disk in my Panasonic, when pressing play at this point, the film starts but it takes my reciever a couple of seconds to pick the audio stream up. I don't know if any of this is significant but it does seem like rather odd behaviour.
Any Takers?
NexGen76
15th March 2009, 19:02
Hi!
To not need to reencode all, reenoce some of the xtras with lower bitrate.
I made a small batch script, which logs all x264 commands, so you can easily encode with lower bitrate and rebuild.
@echo off
:start
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo new last cmd found...
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING -n 10 127.0.0.1>nul
goto start
Just let it run during BD-RB.
Bye
I had my extras set on Fast encode so i was thinking maybe it was encoding at a lower Bitrate ? If fast extra's are set to this does this mean it will encode at a lower Bitrate ? Thxs
Chefkoch_ico
15th March 2009, 19:05
I had my extras set on Fast encode so i was thinking maybe it was encoding at a lower Bitrate ? If fast extra's are set to this does this mean it will encode at a lower Bitrate ? Thxs
Its doing just one pass. Anyway, you can reencode only some extras manually and see if it fits.
If the main movie on the original disc is not to big and in AVC, you can even NOT encode the main movie and use it as it is. Although its some manual steps involved.
Bye
Chefkoch_ico
15th March 2009, 19:35
Wanted Region B doesn't seem to work Both in my Panasonic BD30 and Power DVD 8, i have tried it with a few versions of BD Rebuilder and with a couple of different settings and it hangs at the same place on both players, even from a built image file of the output. The original full rip plays fine in power dvd 8 so something else must be wrong. Here is a list of what Happens:
1. Universal Logo Plays fine.
2. Top Menu to select audio (on the last encode i did i chose to keep japanese audio as well as this is the first audio track) choose either japanese or english as audio.
3. Shows copyright languages in whatever language was chosen.
4. Now shows Java Loading bar.
5. Shows Main menu in whatever language you chose. (note all the extras play fine)
6. Choose play movie option - disk (or image file) freezes.
With the original rip as an image file, at option 6. press play, i can tell from the info window on power dvd 8 that the files quickly cycle through different DTS audio settings within a couple of seconds - i.e. DTS 5.1 750kbps - DTS HD 5.1 1536 Kbps - DTS Master HD audio at whatever very large audio rate that is. Also with the the original Disk in my Panasonic, when pressing play at this point, the film starts but it takes my reciever a couple of seconds to pick the audio stream up. I don't know if any of this is significant but it does seem like rather odd behaviour.
Any Takers?
Same here with "The mummy 3", german and as far as I remember with "Kung fu panda", german. After playing the menu, when I choose "start movie", it hangs.
Bye
jdobbs
15th March 2009, 19:38
Just make sure if it happens again that you don't change ANYTHING at all in a panic. If you do it won't give you the option to continue :)It will always ask if it can continue, if not it will prompt you whether to overwrite the Working directory. If you say no to that one you are still safe.
Most of the time if you think it should let you continue, but it won't -- check your selections (source, destination, output size, movie-only/full, audio selections, etc). They have to be the same in order to continue on a previous encode..
jdobbs
15th March 2009, 19:42
Hi!
To not need to reencode all, reenoce some of the xtras with lower bitrate.
I made a small batch script, which logs all x264 commands, so you can easily encode with lower bitrate and rebuild.
@echo off
:start
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo new last cmd found...
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING -n 10 127.0.0.1>nul
goto start
Just let it run during BD-RB.
Bye
This seems like it would slow down the encode (because it is continually running and using the disc and processor)???
Chefkoch_ico
15th March 2009, 20:21
This seems like it would slow down the encode (because it is continually running and using the disc and processor)???
Yes of course. But should not be to much. Anyway its the easiest way to get a x264 command history.
It was not only once useful for me.
DaMacFunkin
15th March 2009, 20:37
Same here with "The mummy 3", german and as far as I remember with "Kung fu panda", german. After playing the menu, when I choose "start movie", it hangs.
Bye
Thats interesting, because The Mummy 3 is a Universal Title too!? Has anybody else had problems with these or other universal titles?
tekmobile
15th March 2009, 21:39
@echo off
:start
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo new last cmd found...
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING -n 10 127.0.0.1>nul
goto start
Just let it run during BD-RB.
Bye
@echo off
:start
START BD_Rebuilder.exe
ECHO Setup BD Rebuilder ONLY Dont start the backup then
PAUSE
CLS
set /p disc=What disc are you doing ?
echo Disc Title: %disc% >> CMDHistory.txt
echo Adding %disc% to CMDHistory
ECHO Copying the settings file to CMDHistory
TYPE BDREBUILDER.INI >> CMDHistory.txt
ECHO Writing commands to CMDHistory
ECHO You may now press the Backup button
:run
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo Writing new command to CMDHistory
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 10000>null
goto run
I have made some additional mods to your code to also write the settings file to the CMDHistory and auto start BD Rebuilder at the start its asks for the name of the disc too (there may be any easier method to do this but im not sure) so its easier to know what commands are for what disc in the history file.
Also I have changed your ping command so it only pings once than waits 10 seconds instead of pinging 10 times this also reduces cpu usage
It may very slightly slow the encode down but its nothing noticable and may help in toubleshooting troublesome discs
datman
16th March 2009, 03:17
I have nice qualities too like wanting to help you numptees, which is why I wrote a guide. It's not in there though so will add to it at some point. We were all unenlightened once, I'm sure there's stuff you know what I should and I don't. I really didn't mean it personally. This is the internet :)
Sorry if I took it personal. I know you mean well and have helped me out alot.:o
drpaulng
16th March 2009, 15:24
There is a very annoying problem that for non-unicode language such as Chinese, the source path is invalid. We must set the non-unicode programing language to English in the "control center/language and region/advanced" and reboot in order to use BDRB. Otherwise, an error message (source check 00006) telling you the selected source is not BD format keeps on forever. Anyone knows any workaround other than doing the language setting? Because after setting the language to English, all other programs may have invalid path and the language should be re-set back to English and reboot again. Thanks in advance.
PS: Clown_BD_v0.40b.exe and CLIPINF_Editor_v0.02b.exe do not have the same problem for source path.
spida_singh
16th March 2009, 16:21
jdobbs....
Excellent program first off. But, more of a request than a bug report, but necessary as it could be classed as a bug in this thread. Whilst encoding Hellboy 2 (Movie only), my sister accidently took the disc out to play another movie on the pc. BDRB was minimsed. The job ran fine, and completed as if it was all successful, media info gave the correct duration. But, it came to light later when she told me she took the disc out, that the full movie had not been encoded. when playing back the stream, VLC reported it was a full length movie (full duration displayed), but, I can really only view up to about 45 minutes into the film (I could not seek to the end of the movie). I originally thought that BDRB had demuxed the files, and then ran off the workfiles folder, as no warning was given when the disc was ejected.
But now I can confirm that even though the job stated it ran 100%, and vlc as well media info reported back the correct duration of the stream, it was not all there in the end result, the file size was also correct.
Im just asking if it's possible to as a warning to state the disc has been ejected.
Unfortuantly I deleted the workfiles folder, and have started the job again, (so no logs etc) making sure the disc will not be ejected.
BTW: Using latest version 0.20.03
Many thanks
tekmobile
16th March 2009, 17:35
jdobbs....
Excellent program first off. But, more of a request than a bug report, but necessary as it could be classed as a bug in this thread. Whilst encoding Hellboy 2 (Movie only), my sister accidently took the disc out to play another movie on the pc. BDRB was minimsed. The job ran fine, and completed as if it was all successful, media info gave the correct duration. But, it came to light later when she told me she took the disc out, that the full movie had not been encoded. when playing back the stream, VLC reported it was a full length movie (full duration displayed), but, I can really only view up to about 45 minutes into the film (I could not seek to the end of the movie). I originally thought that BDRB had demuxed the files, and then ran off the workfiles folder, as no warning was given when the disc was ejected.
But now I can confirm that even though the job stated it ran 100%, and vlc as well media info reported back the correct duration of the stream, it was not all there in the end result, the file size was also correct.
Im just asking if it's possible to as a warning to state the disc has been ejected.
Unfortuantly I deleted the workfiles folder, and have started the job again, (so no logs etc) making sure the disc will not be ejected.
Many thanks
I also had this same problem doing a encode over a network (the image was stored an a windows home server) network connectivity was briefly interupted and BD-RB just proceeded to the next file without errors I wouldnt have known if it wasnt for the encode finishing much sooner than expected and obviously when testing
Furiousflea
16th March 2009, 21:55
jdobbs....
Excellent program first off. But, more of a request than a bug report, but necessary as it could be classed as a bug in this thread. Whilst encoding Hellboy 2 (Movie only), my sister accidently took the disc out to play another movie on the pc. BDRB was minimsed. The job ran fine, and completed as if it was all successful, media info gave the correct duration. But, it came to light later when she told me she took the disc out, that the full movie had not been encoded. when playing back the stream, VLC reported it was a full length movie (full duration displayed), but, I can really only view up to about 45 minutes into the film (I could not seek to the end of the movie). I originally thought that BDRB had demuxed the files, and then ran off the workfiles folder, as no warning was given when the disc was ejected.
But now I can confirm that even though the job stated it ran 100%, and vlc as well media info reported back the correct duration of the stream, it was not all there in the end result, the file size was also correct.
Im just asking if it's possible to as a warning to state the disc has been ejected.
Unfortuantly I deleted the workfiles folder, and have started the job again, (so no logs etc) making sure the disc will not be ejected.
BTW: Using latest version 0.20.03
Many thanks
I doubt very much this will be implemented. BDRB is designed for use with sources that have already been ripped to the hard drive. If your using AnyDVD HD just use the built in ripper or windows explorer and copy all the folders to a folder on your hard drive and load that folder into BDRB.
Encoding straight from a disc is ALWAYS a bad idea unless you simply can't make enough space for the process when ripping the disc to your computer. It places a lot of strain on your Bluray drive too. Encodes can take 10+ hours and reading with your bluray drive constantly like that is not a good idea generally speaking.
You'll have more reliable results reading from the hard drive also because you might find there is an error on the disc and then BDRB enocdes it, it won't "try again" like a disc ripper would by reducing the read speed right down etc.
Hope your getting what I'm saying. Rip it to your hard drive first ;) always.
Furiousflea
16th March 2009, 21:59
I also had this same problem doing a encode over a network (the image was stored an a windows home server) network connectivity was briefly interupted and BD-RB just proceeded to the next file without errors I wouldnt have known if it wasnt for the encode finishing much sooner than expected and obviously when testing
Same as the above really. And it is not a critisism of your method but for best results and to avoid those potential problems its a dead cert bad idea to encode from disc\network storage. Especially a NAS many of them don't like the massive bluray m2ts files and crash after copying large ones.
In any case, BDRB like DVDRB isn't really desinged as a simple "1 click" type tool (I don't think at least). So it might be a bit more hassle to have it on your local hard drive but hey, you're going to get good results hopefully that way.
spida_singh
17th March 2009, 00:10
I doubt very much this will be implemented. BDRB is designed for use with sources that have already been ripped to the hard drive. If your using AnyDVD HD just use the built in ripper or windows explorer and copy all the folders to a folder on your hard drive and load that folder into BDRB.
Encoding straight from a disc is ALWAYS a bad idea unless you simply can't make enough space for the process when ripping the disc to your computer. It places a lot of strain on your Bluray drive too. Encodes can take 10+ hours and reading with your bluray drive constantly like that is not a good idea generally speaking.
You'll have more reliable results reading from the hard drive also because you might find there is an error on the disc and then BDRB enocdes it, it won't "try again" like a disc ripper would by reducing the read speed right down etc.
Hope your getting what I'm saying. Rip it to your hard drive first ;) always.
Thats fine, it's handy from disc, saves time ripping, though i understand ripping to hard drive will always be best, il have to run my jobs during the night i guess. Thanks
GaPony
17th March 2009, 02:40
Saves time ripping????? How about ripping to the HDD saves you from having a Blu-Ray drive die prematurely. If that argument doesn't sway you, I would think the slow transfer rate of the optical drive would be enough to sell you on the idea of working from a folder on the hard drive.
I don't see where working from the optical drive is handy under any circumstances. The possibility for errors is exponentially greater, it would seem.
spida_singh
17th March 2009, 10:36
Saves time ripping????? How about ripping to the HDD saves you from having a Blu-Ray drive die prematurely. If that argument doesn't sway you, I would think the slow transfer rate of the optical drive would be enough to sell you on the idea of working from a folder on the hard drive.
I don't see where working from the optical drive is handy under any circumstances. The possibility for errors is exponentially greater, it would seem.
Relax....I am not a heavy encoder, i do the odd blu ray now and then, it takes a total of 6 hours max to do the highest quality backup using BD-RB. 3.4Ghz Q6600 under my hood :D
I will backup from HDD from now on....id rather have a drive than not:thanks:
Furiousflea
17th March 2009, 12:20
Relax....I am not a heavy encoder, i do the odd blu ray now and then, it takes a total of 6 hours max to do the highest quality backup using BD-RB. 3.4Ghz Q6600 under my hood :D
I will backup from HDD from now on....id rather have a drive than not:thanks:
lol :) I think he is relaxed it's just that it's really a very bad idea to work from the drive and he's just conveying that to you ;) In all honesty it might actually be around the same time working from a folder on your har drive because accessing the Bluray drive constantly especailly through AnyDVD HD which would use cpu cycles to decrypt + overhead of reading the folder would use more cpu cycles than reading straight from a folder. So you will find you might encode at an extra frame per second or 2 (guess ;)).
Anyway :) give it a go and let us know if it does go faster.
lordraider
17th March 2009, 13:28
First of all, Thx for this wonderfull program.
I have a little question, if you have a bd-50gb disc (you can get them but are still a little expensive :)) and want to let's say do a full untouched backup (not reencoded). Is this possible with BD-rebuilder? For example by setting the target size large enough or will it always reencode the audio and video? I know it will recreate menu structure and so but I like the video and audio untouched :).
Thx in advance
spida_singh
17th March 2009, 14:42
Guys, set off another encode, but, for some reason, i got BSOD?? Only did a fresh install about 2 weeks back, any ideas what could be causing it? The same happened with my Family guy rips when using automkv, i got BSOD after the audio encode, is x264.exe causing a crash (as this was used when converting to a .mp4)? Strange as it worked with my hellboy encode overnight??
Furiousflea
17th March 2009, 14:57
Guys, set off another encode, but, for some reason, i got BSOD?? Only did a fresh install about 2 weeks back, any ideas what could be causing it? The same happened with my Family guy rips when using automkv, i got BSOD after the audio encode, is x264.exe causing a crash (as this was used when converting to a .mp4)? Strange as it worked with my hellboy encode overnight??
A BSOD will usually mean an unstale overclock on your system (FSB\CPU\RAM), not enough volts or overheating. Just because one encode worked doesn't mean that it isn't the problem as you could be on the upper threshold and if the ambient temp is slightly warmer one day it could push a component over the edge in terms of heat etc.
Hard to say, but you should run Prim95 (latest version that tests all cores) for a couple of hours to check. Also run memtest to check the memory for a couple of hours afterwards.
spida_singh
17th March 2009, 15:17
A BSOD will usually mean an unstale overclock on your system (FSB\CPU\RAM), not enough volts or overheating. Just because one encode worked doesn't mean that it isn't the problem as you could be on the upper threshold and if the ambient temp is slightly warmer one day it could push a component over the edge in terms of heat etc.
Hard to say, but you should run Prim95 (latest version that tests all cores) for a couple of hours to check. Also run memtest to check the memory for a couple of hours afterwards.
PM Sent
tekmobile
17th March 2009, 15:25
First of all, Thx for this wonderfull program.
I have a little question, if you have a bd-50gb disc (you can get them but are still a little expensive :)) and want to let's say do a full untouched backup (not reencoded). Is this possible with BD-rebuilder? For example by setting the target size large enough or will it always reencode the audio and video? I know it will recreate menu structure and so but I like the video and audio untouched :).
Thx in advance
If you want to create a untouched BD-50 just rip to image using anydvd hd and then burn that image back to a BD-R50 using your favorite burning program (imgburn highly recomended) there is no need to do any modifications, encodes, rebuilds or anything else for that matter
turbojet
17th March 2009, 15:34
jdobbs: concerning the 720p sup bug I reported. BDSup2Sub (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277) currently works on the 3 BD's I know that are problematic in BD-RB it also resizes to match the same size as the original 1080p. It has command line support now too.
Would it be possible to either use this tool to do 1080p -> 720p sup resizing in BD-RB or talk to the developer about what he did in hopes of fixing BD-RB?
GaPony
17th March 2009, 16:11
First of all, Thx for this wonderfull program.
I have a little question, if you have a bd-50gb disc (you can get them but are still a little expensive :)) and want to let's say do a full untouched backup (not reencoded). Is this possible with BD-rebuilder? For example by setting the target size large enough or will it always reencode the audio and video? I know it will recreate menu structure and so but I like the video and audio untouched :).
Thx in advance
I think Tekmobile already answered the question pretty well, but that leaves me one for you....
Why bother with 50gb BD-R media? For that price you can buy another original movie (especially if you wait a couple weeks after the initial release) and not have to risk making a coaster. You really owe it to yourself to try BD-Rebuilder. You'll get excellant results and save a ton of money, since BD-25 media is below the $5.00 mark.
After all... the video and audio of even a 50gb Blu-Ray movie is still compressed from the original source.
lordraider
17th March 2009, 16:32
Damn,
I didn't know if I ripped a bluray via AnyDVD HD and just burns the image to a BD50 or BD25 (if it is a BD25 original) and put it in my PS3 it will just play like the original bluray disk??
Is this correct what I am saying? I thought the PS3 would see it is not a true genuine bluray movie and would not play it?
turbojet
17th March 2009, 16:36
Ya virtually all BD players including PS3 play original BD's and full backups from BD-RB on a BD25/50 just like it should.
lordraider
17th March 2009, 16:41
I thought I would need some program like Slysoft CloneDVD HD for this which doesn't exist ...
GaPony
17th March 2009, 17:39
I thought I would need some program like Slysoft CloneDVD HD for this which doesn't exist ...
Nope! Just use ImgBurn! The PS3 plays them just fine. Its only the full movies on BD5 & BD9 that its doesn't like.
Its nice to get good news...isn't it? :)
lordraider
17th March 2009, 19:48
Indeed good news :).
Amazing that PS3 plays a bluray copy.
I thought the mkv step was necessary and that means no subtitles on PS3 (yet) , no menu, no extra's.
Damn good news for me!
I am baffled I didn't found out this earlier. But you hear so much about those mkv's :).
DaMacFunkin
17th March 2009, 19:49
I decided to take it upon myself to see if there was a problem with some Universal titles after many unsucessful attempts at Wanted Region B (see my previous posts) so i thought i would try The Mummy 3 UK Release. The title keeps crashing x264 - some of the extras streams are VC1 1080i encoded.. Help!!!
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