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DaMacFunkin
22nd February 2009, 17:50
Furthermore to the Wall-E problem, i have just done Wyatt Earp, and the main movie is split over 2 files, in full back up mode is there a way to select all the main movie files for Advanced encode, then leave the extras as "quicker encodes" because under the current system i can't have Quicker encode for extras because then nearly half the film will be encoded in differnet quality. so i have to Have advanced reencode (2 pass) enabled for the entire disk.

Capsbackup
22nd February 2009, 18:09
@jdobbs;
Not sure if the past undersizing issue you mentioned was related to BD-5 size or if you made any adjustments for that selection, or was it maybe just BD-25 and BD-9? I backed up Nights in Rodanthe, NTSC, with BD-RBV01906 to movie only BD-5, 4.27GB and it only came out to 4.13GB. This is a pretty short movie, so I do not believe there is any video quality reduction because of this, but I thought I would just tell you my results.
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[20:01:53] BD Rebuilder v0.19.06 (beta)
- Source: NIGHTS IN RODANTHE
- Input BD size: 14.43 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:37:06.111]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:01:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [20:07:14] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 5,062 Kbs
- [20:07:14] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:21:17] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:23:51] Video Encode complete
- [23:23:51] Reencoding audio tracks
- [23:25:12] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:26:51]PHASE ONE complete
[23:26:51]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:26:51] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:28:54] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23:28:54]JOB: NIGHTS IN RODANTHE completed.

[Status]
LABEL=NIGHTS IN RODANTHE
VERSION=v0.19.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=15496802304
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=15496802304
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=.295624120004261
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
PASS=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00004]
M2TS_TARGET=4581228544
RATE=5062
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=3888814080
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

GaPony
22nd February 2009, 18:39
Has anybody managed to backup Wall E in movie only mode ?

It is the UK distribution (region B) of Wall E.

I can't speak to the UK version, but I backed up the US version of WALL-E (Movie Only to BD9) with one of the earliest versions of BD Rebuilder...

It might be worth re-ripping it to the HDD with AnyDVD-HD (default setting). It couldn't hurt..

jdobbs
22nd February 2009, 18:52
Has anybody managed to backup Wall E in movie only mode ?

I managed with one of the earlier 18.x (07?) builds (but with the slow desyncing of the soundtrack over the course of the movie). With the more recent builds movie only backup of that disc no longer seems possible (full backup works).

When opening the disc in movie only mode, only file #nr 00004 of the entire playlist shows up as having an audio track (see below).

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Hence when you start backing up it fails at file #00000, not finding an audio track. If you switch to "full backup", all the files have an audio track and the backup works (see below) ...

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It is the UK distribution (region B) of Wall E. The reason I only show one stream with the audio track is because they all have to have the same audio choices (they are parts of a single PlayList). If I didn't do that people would make different selections for different parts and end up with output that changes languages midstream.

I've already seen cases of people doing that on full backups -- because they didn't realize that an M2TS sometimes is only a small part of an overall stream.

It may not be a bad idea for me to change the stream screen show it displays MPLS files (Playlists) rather than M2TS files.

Furiousflea
22nd February 2009, 18:56
I can confirm that the
BD Rebuilder has experienced error 8 [17:26:30] CreateBDFiles() 00076 8

error is no longer coming up with 0.19.06...

I DID just get this popup message on movie only mode using 0.19.06. Never had a popup error message before this.


Are there any popup error message at the time of the error? Also, can you post the contents of the AUD_00001.META file?

There are no pop up messages, here is the content of AUD_00001.META for my problem Sin City JAP disc...

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
A_AC3, "D:\SINCITY\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", track=4354, lang=eng
A_AC3, "D:\SINCITY\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", track=4355, lang=eng
A_AC3, "D:\SINCITY\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", down-to-ac3, track=4352, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\SINCITY\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=eng

jdobbs
22nd February 2009, 18:57
@jdobbs;
Not sure if the past undersizing issue you mentioned was related to BD-5 size or if you made any adjustments for that selection, or was it maybe just BD-25 and BD-9? I backed up Nights in Rodanthe, NTSC, with BD-RBV01906 to movie only BD-5, 4.27GB and it only came out to 4.13GB. This is a pretty short movie, so I do not believe there is any video quality reduction because of this, but I thought I would just tell you my results.
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[20:01:53] BD Rebuilder v0.19.06 (beta)
- Source: NIGHTS IN RODANTHE
- Input BD size: 14.43 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:37:06.111]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:01:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [20:07:14] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 5,062 Kbs
- [20:07:14] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:21:17] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:23:51] Video Encode complete
- [23:23:51] Reencoding audio tracks
- [23:25:12] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:26:51]PHASE ONE complete
[23:26:51]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:26:51] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:28:54] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23:28:54]JOB: NIGHTS IN RODANTHE completed.

[Status]
LABEL=NIGHTS IN RODANTHE
VERSION=v0.19.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=15496802304
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=15496802304
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=.295624120004261
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
PASS=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00004]
M2TS_TARGET=4581228544
RATE=5062
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=3888814080
FLINK=0
MLINK=0From the INF file (highlighted above) I can see that I've given a bitrate that should result in a bigger target than was actually produces (NSIZE) -- that means that X264 undersized it. Saturation I guess??

Furiousflea
22nd February 2009, 19:00
...It may not be a bad idea for me to change the stream screen show it displays MPLS files (Playlists) rather than M2TS files...

Defo a good idea to have, if you could make it optional that would be fantasitc :)

jdobbs
22nd February 2009, 19:15
Are you sure he isn't talking about the DivX H.264 decoder?Good point...

DaMacFunkin
22nd February 2009, 20:05
Hah, i see, so is BD Rebuilder already doing mpls encoding as apposed to m2ts?, if so that completley nullifies what i said before and i've been interpreting the situation all wrong???...

jdobbs
22nd February 2009, 21:35
Yes. There are a large number of sources in which the movie is broken into numerous segments -- BD-RB would be very limited if it didn't process MPLSs for movie-only.

Talkietoaster
22nd February 2009, 21:58
I can't speak to the UK version, but I backed up the US version of WALL-E (Movie Only to BD9) with one of the earliest versions of BD Rebuilder...

It might be worth re-ripping it to the HDD with AnyDVD-HD (default setting). It couldn't hurt..

This is exactly what I am saying. It did work with an earlier version (with the desync bug), but it no longer seems to work with the current version.

Apparently the difference in the gui (screenshots) has nothing to do with it, yet I cant get it to work, be it ripped to harddisk or directly from BR.

I am backing up another movie now (kungfu panda), works like a charm.

MikeyBK
22nd February 2009, 23:04
I DID just get this popup message on movie only mode using 0.19.06. Never had a popup error message before this.
..

Hmmm, are you sure that wasn't still with version 0.19.05??

Because 0.19.06 hasn't shown any signs of that error for me, only 0.19.05.....

In fact 0.19.06 seems very smooth running, here's my latest log...

[02:56:34] BD Rebuilder v0.19.06 (beta)
- Source: INDIANA_JONES_4_D1
- Input BD size: 34.12 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:02:32.386]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[02:56:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [03:04:53] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 1)
[10:48:09]PHASE ONE complete
[10:48:09]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:48:09] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:53:21] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:53:21]JOB: INDIANA_JONES_4_D1 completed.

DaMacFunkin
22nd February 2009, 23:17
But in full back up mode, does it process the movie mpls with the advanced settings then the extras as quicker encode if that option is enabled, or can it not make that distinction in full back up mode?...

datman
22nd February 2009, 23:25
What operating system are you using? That should be installed along with Windows. You can download it from the Microsoft site. Save it to the windows\system32 directory and register it with REGSVR32.

vista 32 and also windows 7 64 both are missing that file. I found this;
FAQ
Component MSCOMCTL.OCX or one of its dependencies not currently registered ...

Sometime certain Microsoft Libraries can become unregistered when installing and uninstalling a lot of software. One very common problem is the MSCOMCTL.OCX.

To correct the error, first search your drive for MSCOMCTL.OCX to see if you have it. If not you can download it from HERE

The file should be placed in your C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory. Or, if you are C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 if you are using WinXP.

Once it is there click START--> RUN and type "REGSVR32 MSCOMCTL.OCX" (No quotes) in the box.

That should fix the problem.


but it did not work with W7 64. I will trry with vista

datman
22nd February 2009, 23:32
didn't work with vista either

drmih
22nd February 2009, 23:53
I'm having issues with 19.06 where x264 keeps stopping working on vista 64. I have been watching the encode this evening and I managed to get it by the first file it had problems with by retrying over and over again - it doesn't keep stopping at the same position. I'm now on a second file on the same disc (it did the main movie no problem, it's the extras it's struggling with) and got it through the first pass after 10 mins of retrying but am still battling with the second pass - it's been an hour or so of retrying and rebooting. As the disc is at 96% I'm hanging in there (for information it is Burn after Reading).

##Got past the second file, did a few more and now stuck on a third but it's at 99%

Furiousflea
23rd February 2009, 00:10
Hmmm, are you sure that wasn't still with version 0.19.05??

Because 0.19.06 hasn't shown any signs of that error for me, only 0.19.05.....

In fact 0.19.06 seems very smooth running, here's my latest log...

[02:56:34] BD Rebuilder v0.19.06 (beta)
- Source: INDIANA_JONES_4_D1
- Input BD size: 34.12 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:02:32.386]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[02:56:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [03:04:53] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 1)
[10:48:09]PHASE ONE complete
[10:48:09]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:48:09] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:53:21] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:53:21]JOB: INDIANA_JONES_4_D1 completed.

Positive.

Furiousflea
23rd February 2009, 00:16
vista 32 and also windows 7 64 both are missing that file. I found this;
FAQ
Component MSCOMCTL.OCX or one of its dependencies not currently registered ...

Sometime certain Microsoft Libraries can become unregistered when installing and uninstalling a lot of software. One very common problem is the MSCOMCTL.OCX.

To correct the error, first search your drive for MSCOMCTL.OCX to see if you have it. If not you can download it from HERE

The file should be placed in your C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory. Or, if you are C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 if you are using WinXP.

Once it is there click START--> RUN and type "REGSVR32 MSCOMCTL.OCX" (No quotes) in the box.

That should fix the problem.


but it did not work with W7 64. I will trry with vista

I hardly think that jdobbs cares if it's working smoothly on Windows 7 at this point. It's quite common for the odd DLL etc to astray on any OS. Just download it again by doing a search on google. I don't even think it needs to be "registered". just place it in your path.

tekmobile
23rd February 2009, 00:17
didn't work with vista either
Are you running command prompt as administrator (Right click and run as administrator) if not it wont work

laserfan
23rd February 2009, 00:22
I notice MSCOMCTL.OCX is in my BD_Rebuilder directory. It's also in my DVD-RB directory, so presumably it's part of jdobbs' packages, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work for datman?

As an aside, I notice the version w/BD-RB and DVD-RB is ancient, from 2002 (ver 6.01.9545). The version in my XP Pro SP3 installation (system32 dir) is slightly less ancient, from 2005, ver 6.1.97.86. I don't know if an old version with a new system is a problem or not...

datman
23rd February 2009, 00:28
Are you running command prompt as administrator (Right click and run as administrator) if not it wont work

I did exactly what was stated I didn't need to run as administrator. I got some kind of a incompatible file error. I didn't copy it. As for W7 I'm reinstalling it. There is alot of info about this error out there for xp.w2k,and NT none for vista or W7. Odds are it will reinstall ok. My vista I would like to patch
:thanks:

datman
23rd February 2009, 00:46
Are you running command prompt as administrator (Right click and run as administrator) if not it wont work

sorry but right click what "exactly" I tried right clicking, I never knew how work as "administrator"

The file is in all BD rebuilder folders. the one I download was a different size

datman
23rd February 2009, 01:00
same thing in new W7 copy:mad:

ron spencer
23rd February 2009, 02:18
nothin' beats good ole windows XP....


sorry for problems, but there is not a person I know who has not had legacy issues with Vista. Hopefully it can be fixed.

GaPony
23rd February 2009, 02:58
nothin' beats good ole windows XP....


sorry for problems, but there is not a person I know who has not had legacy issues with Vista. Hopefully it can be fixed.

I guess I'm your first... but there are lots of us out here roaming around quietly, simply because we haven't had any problems to report.

datman: Is this a new occurence or has it always been happening?

jdobbs
23rd February 2009, 03:45
sorry but right click what "exactly" I tried right clicking, I never knew how work as "administrator"

The file is in all BD rebuilder folders. the one I download was a different size You have to run CMD.EXE with administrative privileges. The process itself has to have the priv, not the user. Right click on it and select "Run as administrator". The error message you are showing is exactly what you would get if you ran it without privs...

datman
23rd February 2009, 04:05
You have to run CMD.EXE with administrative privileges. The process itself has to have the priv, not the user. Right click on it and select "Run as administrator". The error message you are showing is exactly what you would get if you ran it without privs...

Thankyou jdobbs that was it now it runs:thanks:

ds9delta
23rd February 2009, 04:38
Sorry To Have To Report This But Using 19.06 Is Still Undersizing I Did Matrix Reloaded And Selected Target Size To Be 23000MB The Result Was 22192MB That's Almost A Gig Undersize I'd Call That Quite Significant For HD... I Have Included My INI Files... And As Always Thanks For The Great Work.

Further Issue Jdobbs I Just Tested Playback Of Matrix Reloaded And I Get A Black Screen With No Audio However The Counter Does Run...
In Addition Both The Video And Audio Playback Perfect Directly From The M2TS Stream... HELP!???

Capsbackup
23rd February 2009, 07:04
Problem doing a full backup of Nights in Rodanthe with 19.06.
Cannot finish rebuilding.

Edit: After shutting down BD-RB and restarting, it starts to rebuild but then stops/fails to mux 00015.
[22:41:41] BD Rebuilder v0.19.06 (beta)
- Source: NIGHTS IN RODANTHE
- Input BD size: 20.55 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:45:40.688]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:41:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[22:41:44]PHASE ONE complete
[22:41:44]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:41:44] Rebuilding stream 00003 [1 of 17]
- [22:41:44] Rebuilding stream 00022 [2 of 17]
- [22:41:45] Rebuilding stream 00018 [3 of 17]
- [22:41:45] Rebuilding stream 00001 [4 of 17]
- [22:41:46] Rebuilding stream 00011 [5 of 17]
- [22:41:46] Rebuilding stream 00008 [6 of 17]
- [22:41:47] Rebuilding stream 00021 [7 of 17]
- [22:41:47] Rebuilding stream 00020 [8 of 17]
- [22:41:48] Rebuilding stream 00019 [9 of 17]
- [22:41:49] Rebuilding stream 00023 [10 of 17]
- [22:41:51] Rebuilding stream 00010 [11 of 17]
- [22:41:52] Rebuilding stream 00025 [12 of 17]
- [22:41:54] Rebuilding stream 00013 [13 of 17]
- [22:41:55] Rebuilding stream 00015 [14 of 17]
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00015.meta
- Failed to rebuild BD file(s). Aborted.

KarstenS
23rd February 2009, 12:37
It may not be a bad idea for me to change the stream screen show it displays MPLS files (Playlists) rather than M2TS files.

Yes, that would make things much easier, as I always have to set audio manually and it is much work with movies, that are split into 50+ parts.

Furiousflea
23rd February 2009, 14:41
Sorry To Have To Report This But Using 19.06 Is Still Undersizing I Did Matrix Reloaded And Selected Target Size To Be 23000MB The Result Was 22192MB That's Almost A Gig Undersize I'd Call That Quite Significant For HD... I Have Included My INI Files... And As Always Thanks For The Great Work.

Further Issue Jdobbs I Just Tested Playback Of Matrix Reloaded And I Get A Black Screen With No Audio However The Counter Does Run...
In Addition Both The Video And Audio Playback Perfect Directly From The M2TS Stream... HELP!???

Same here, although to DVD9. I set 8140 as target bitrate but my backups when I do movie only always turn out at around 7.65-7.75GB - 250mb undersize. If you muliply that by 3.5 which is the size of a BD25 (roughly) it is about a GB.

As stated before I don't understand this as x264 is easily within 1% when target size is set, there must be other variable overhead or something I would expect relating to m2ts container.

jdobbs
23rd February 2009, 16:24
Same here, although to DVD9. I set 8140 as target bitrate but my backups when I do movie only always turn out at around 7.65-7.75GB - 250mb undersize. If you muliply that by 3.5 which is the size of a BD25 (roughly) it is about a GB.

As stated before I don't understand this as x264 is easily within 1% when target size is set, there must be other variable overhead or something I would expect relating to m2ts container. I've been playing it safe until we have more information. Currently I am assuming 7% in overhead for muxing the video (M2TS format). I'll adjust it down to 6% and it should get us closer to hitting the target size.

Honestly though, I don't see the big deal in a 1% undersize buffer on a disc...

deank
23rd February 2009, 16:31
@Furiousflea: I'd say that a difference of 3-4% is almost a miracle and you should be satisfied, as with m2ts container it is REALLY hard to predict overhead with so many different audio/subtitles/menu streams.

Chefkoch_ico
23rd February 2009, 16:44
Hi!

This problem:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1244787&postcount=969#
I was able to "fix" with the new parameter MIN_M2TS_SIZE=400

Are you interested into making a real fix for this? What Information will you need?

Bye

jdobbs
23rd February 2009, 16:51
@Furiousflea: I'd say that a difference of 3-4% is almost a miracle and you should be satisfied, as with m2ts container it is REALLY hard to predict overhead with so many different audio/subtitles/menu streams.Amen.

Furiousflea
23rd February 2009, 18:52
I've been playing it safe until we have more information. Currently I am assuming 7% in overhead for muxing the video (M2TS format). I'll adjust it down to 6% and it should get us closer to hitting the target size.

Honestly though, I don't see the big deal in a 1% undersize buffer on a disc...

No worries, wasn't a complaint just an fyi. I think a few pages back undersize was mentioned and in the recent release you said undersize was corrected. Just reporting that the undersize is exactly the same as before - no change.

I'm not really fussed as I just set the target to 8250MB and get about 7.8-7.9GB. The reason I bring it up is because this is pretty much a certainty and shows that even with all this variable overhead it still CAN hit the target bang on. Only the target that is set in the INI is not the real target.

My only suggestion is that it should be? Fair enough have the default set at a conservative value as it is already. But since it's a hidden setting to set a custom value is it really a good idea for a user to need to set 8250MB to achieve 7.8-7.9GB?

I'm prolly not explaining myself very well. I'm saying that the undersize is consistent AND predictable. Given this, shouldn't the custom value be hard set in reality :p ...It seems that even the custom value is conservative too which makes no sense.

Here's some examples...

Harry Potter 5 - custom value 8140 - 7.82GB output (movie only)
The Notebook - custom 8140 - 7.84GB output (full disc)
Mamma Mia - custom value - 8140 - 7.81GB output (movei only)
Harry Potter 1 - default value 7910? - 7.64GB output (movie only)
Independence Day - custom value 8200 - 7.87GB output (movie only)
Mulholland Drive - default 7910 - 7.64GB output (movie only)


I won't bring this up again but as you can see, your target sizing is pretty darn accurate so there really isn't any need for me needing to set a falsely high value in the ini to achive a full disc :)

8140 should be the full capacity of a DVD9, given that your sizing IS accurate you would be at no risk by allowing 8140 to mean 8140 ONLY in the ini for experienced users. (obviously not as a default as this would be cutting it fine). I believe you did this with DVD-Rebuilder with no complaints ;) Your current sizing is no less accurate than CCE doing a DVD encode.

(sorry I don't mean to go on and am trying to help)

I would disagree with out fellow mathsmaticians who claim this is only like 1% difference, you don't calculate how much of the total to work out whats wasted, you calculate how much is lost relative to the size of your video since audio quality is a constant this extra wasted space would be spent directly on video encoding, most of which on the main feature.

BenieUK
23rd February 2009, 19:16
Just reporting that the under-size is exactly the same as before - no change.

Maybe for some but for me the under-size bug has gone... I been doing full disc backups keeping all audio and subs, high quality (default) , do not convert audio (both) since about v18.?? and my end results (the ones that got all the way through) were ending up 16GB ish NOT the 25GB i had selected... since this new version v19.06 all 4 BD's i have done in the last 2 days all work 100% and are around the 22-23GB mark :)

Also the ones that kept getting errors during encode also went all the way with out probs... THANKS JDOBBS !!

Movies i have done in the last 2 days are:

The Day After Tomorrow
Heroes - Season 1 - Disc 1
Resident Evil 3
Pirates 2 (not pirates of the Caribbean, lol :)

All UK Region B

Only thing i'm waiting for now is the option to keep original DTS-HD etc.. but dont mind the wait :)

Keep up the great work :) 2nd donation on its way soon... Thanks again.

BenieUK
23rd February 2009, 19:18
Also thanks to all others involved in the programs that make this package what it is :)

MikeyBK
23rd February 2009, 21:29
Just wanted to give feedback that 0.19.06 seems to be running very, very smooth on my system..... 100% success on all BD-9s I've thrown at it so far...



:thanks:

procorea
23rd February 2009, 21:49
@JD, congrats for this great program.

I've been agonizing to make my 1st posting due to the 5-day rule since joining...

Meanwhile on the other hand I've been re-trying the processing of some BD rips with every new version of BD Rebuilder since 0.18.7, so whatever errors I'm still getting can be trusted as consistent I guess; the X264 errors have gone away but the following errors remain, affecting 5 of about a dozen titles I have used BD Rebuilder on:

[my usual setup: movie-only mode, DVD-9 target, selecting whenever available English & French 5-ch AC3 audio tracks (or HD if available), leaving all subtitles in; btw I'm on Win XP SP3 in English but with some French Canadian settings like for the keyboard]

Problem 1:

Failing to retrieve audio, aborting right at beginning; this happens with 2 of my rips, "Meet the Robinsons" and "Wall-E", below is a typical log (this one when trying "Wall-E"; btw when I last tried with "Meet the Robinsons" BD Rebuilder was reporting 144GB for input BD size, obviously incorrect; in Explorer the folder is seen to have a total size of 38.9GB):

[15:23:58] BD Rebuilder v0.19.06 (beta)
- Source: QUACK_D1_CAN
- Input BD size: 22.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:54.636]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[15:23:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Extracting audio/subs [VID_00091]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[15:23:59] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
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Problem 2:

Failing at final mux, getting message "Audio-PGS sizing issue", but the m2ts and audio files seem to all be in the work folder, is there a way to re-use these files to make a successful build without re-processing all the files ? This happens with 2 of my rips, "Pirates of the Carribean 3" and "From Hell". Typical description of windows that pop up , BD rebuilder log and program behavior:

A) Pop-up windows:

(1) "Audio and/or PGS size too large. Probable oversize. Continue ?

(after clicking "Yes"):

(2) BD Rebuilder experienced an error 8 [11:50:26] DoEncoding ()00009 8

after that, BD Rebuilder displays "Multiplexing M2TS file..."
but is obviously frozen (left running very long);
clicking "Abort" button coes not work

B) BD Rebuilder log:

-----------------------
[20:23:32] BD Rebuilder v0.19.04 (beta)
- Source: _BD RB FAILING AT FINAL MUX_AUDIO-PGS SIZING ISSUE_BD RIP_FROM HELL
- Input BD size: 22.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:02:13.326]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:23:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [20:32:57] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 2)
- Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- [11:50:22] Reencoding: VID_00003 (2 of 2)
- [11:50:26] DoEncoding() 00009 8

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Problem 3:

Generating a very undersized target: happened on my BD rip "Live Free or Die Hard"; instead of about 7.72BG, files generated amounted to 4.45GB (bummer, had it been under 4.37GB I probably wouldn't have minded).

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That's it for what I think might be problems.

Now I have a question about transportability of burned DVDs (w/ ImgBurn and I followed the instructions, selecting UDF 2.5 etc.):

Discs were burned using a desktop PC, they play back very well on this PC's PowerDVD 8.

But they don't work if I put the DVD in my laptop's drive, on the same OS and PowerDVD8 installation. Actually this laptop is the PC from which I made the BD rips because it equipped with a BD-RE burner. I get no video, audio plays for a few seconds then stops. Play timer keeps running. If I click to advance chapter the whole thing freezes.

So far I have 2 burned discs that behave like this on my laptop, I didn't burn any other yet until I get advice on how to fix this, in case the fix requires manipulation of the output files before burning them (or maybe the fix needs to be applied on the laptop itself ?). I have 8 titles whose outputs (20-25GB each for the workfiles & output folders) are standing by due to this issue, I'd like to free up that space if I can...

jdobbs
23rd February 2009, 22:22
1. I'd need more information. For that error I'd need for you to try running the AUD_00091.META file through TSMUXER in a command window so I can see what error it is receiving.
2. The audio/pgs error means that your target isn't big enough. If all the selected audio and pgs files are added together, there is no room for the video.
3. Not sure what could be the issue -- but make sure you use the latest version because there were some updates related to sizing.

aAs for the last comment. It sounds like flakey discs or a flakey drive to me. If you are using the same version of PowerDVD and OS that's the only reasonable source for the issue.

Shuttle99
23rd February 2009, 22:23
I keep getting and error "Audio & PG Size to large continue" at the end of pass 2/2 with Pirates 3 movie only with every version of BD rebuilder so far. Any ideas why this is happening? If I say to continue it looks like it might be continue but then it does nothing.

jdobbs
23rd February 2009, 22:24
See #2 on the post before yours. It means your audio/pgs selection is too big to fit on your selected destination size -- even without encoding the video.

Well... more accurately it means that the audio/pgs is too big to fit in the allocated size of the output for the specific file being encoded... but the result is the same. You'd have to encode the video to a negative size in order to make the encode possible.

Shuttle99
23rd February 2009, 23:24
Thanks for the quick answer so the next question is I tried this again to DVD9 and still the same thing is their a way around it there is two audio's LPCM and AC3 I tried each one separately and still no go. Any sugestions? I found a disc I made with one of the early versions I think 17.13 the whole disc and it worked fine but the quality was bad thats when I decided to do movie only and now it won't do it.

turbojet
23rd February 2009, 23:33
The undersize issue gets more and more affected by number of subs and audio included too.

RipBot264 author, Atak_Snajpera, seems to have overhead for 1 audio stream and multiple sub streams nailed down to a science. I think he's had some problems with multiple audio streams though. That program lacks the much needed 720 sups.

Now if only 2 heads could come together and make both software that much better.

jdobbs
24th February 2009, 00:36
Thanks for the quick answer so the next question is I tried this again to DVD9 and still the same thing is their a way around it there is two audio's LPCM and AC3 I tried each one separately and still no go. Any sugestions? I found a disc I made with one of the early versions I think 17.13 the whole disc and it worked fine but the quality was bad thats when I decided to do movie only and now it won't do it.
1. What do you have set as the output size?
2. How long is the total video?

If the audio is too big to fit on your target, you have to raise the output size to dual layer or BD-25. This is a necessity set forth by physics, not BD-RB. I'm guess you're trying to fit more on a DVD-5 than will fit.

Capsbackup
24th February 2009, 03:03
@jdobbs:
I beleive I found a partial explanation to the error I experienced in full backup of Nights in Rodanthe, post #1579. I had deselected the non-english subtitles, so when I received the error, I ran the mux_00015.meta file from the command line and it said it could not find the 00015.track_4609.sup. So I demuxed this subtitle with TsMuxer and put it in the workfiles folder, and clicked backup again, and then it worked. However, I had to demux all the removed subtitles from the original .m2ts files, and put them in the workfiles folder to avoid the same errors on the other mux_****.meta files it was crashing on. However, after a promising looking rebuild, at the very end I received the error "[17:44:25] CorrectMPLS() 00009 5" like before.
[17:40:39] BD Rebuilder v0.19.06 (beta)
- Source: NIGHTS IN RODANTHE
- Input BD size: 20.55 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:45:40.688]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:40:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[17:40:41]PHASE ONE complete
[17:40:41]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:40:41] Rebuilding stream 00003 [1 of 17]
- [17:40:41] Rebuilding stream 00022 [2 of 17]
- [17:40:42] Rebuilding stream 00018 [3 of 17]
- [17:40:43] Rebuilding stream 00001 [4 of 17]
- [17:40:43] Rebuilding stream 00011 [5 of 17]
- [17:40:44] Rebuilding stream 00008 [6 of 17]
- [17:40:44] Rebuilding stream 00021 [7 of 17]
- [17:40:45] Rebuilding stream 00020 [8 of 17]
- [17:40:47] Rebuilding stream 00019 [9 of 17]
- [17:40:49] Rebuilding stream 00023 [10 of 17]
- [17:40:51] Rebuilding stream 00010 [11 of 17]
- [17:40:55] Rebuilding stream 00025 [12 of 17]
- [17:40:56] Rebuilding stream 00013 [13 of 17]
- [17:40:59] Rebuilding stream 00015 [14 of 17]
- [17:41:08] Rebuilding stream 00017 [15 of 17]
- [17:41:22] Rebuilding stream 00012 [16 of 17]
- [17:41:53] Rebuilding stream 00004 [17 of 17]
- [17:44:21] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [17:44:25] CorrectMPLS() 00009 5
[17:45:31] - Aborted at user request

m1482
24th February 2009, 03:29
The resize function is not working anymore unless the target size is BD-25!!!

jdobbs
24th February 2009, 04:49
You mean the 1280x720 resize? I'll have to look at that. No reason for resizing if you're going to BD-25...

jdobbs
24th February 2009, 04:51
@jdobbs:
I beleive I found a partial explanation to the error I experienced in full backup of Nights in Rodanthe, post #1579. I had deselected the non-english subtitles, so when I received the error, I ran the mux_00015.meta file from the command line and it said it could not find the 00015.track_4609.sup. So I demuxed this subtitle with TsMuxer and put it in the workfiles folder, and clicked backup again, and then it worked. However, I had to demux all the removed subtitles from the original .m2ts files, and put them in the workfiles folder to avoid the same errors on the other mux_****.meta files it was crashing on. However, after a promising looking rebuild, at the very end I received the error "[17:44:25] CorrectMPLS() 00009 5" like before.
[17:40:39] BD Rebuilder v0.19.06 (beta)
- Source: NIGHTS IN RODANTHE
- Input BD size: 20.55 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:45:40.688]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:40:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[17:40:41]PHASE ONE complete
[17:40:41]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:40:41] Rebuilding stream 00003 [1 of 17]
- [17:40:41] Rebuilding stream 00022 [2 of 17]
- [17:40:42] Rebuilding stream 00018 [3 of 17]
- [17:40:43] Rebuilding stream 00001 [4 of 17]
- [17:40:43] Rebuilding stream 00011 [5 of 17]
- [17:40:44] Rebuilding stream 00008 [6 of 17]
- [17:40:44] Rebuilding stream 00021 [7 of 17]
- [17:40:45] Rebuilding stream 00020 [8 of 17]
- [17:40:47] Rebuilding stream 00019 [9 of 17]
- [17:40:49] Rebuilding stream 00023 [10 of 17]
- [17:40:51] Rebuilding stream 00010 [11 of 17]
- [17:40:55] Rebuilding stream 00025 [12 of 17]
- [17:40:56] Rebuilding stream 00013 [13 of 17]
- [17:40:59] Rebuilding stream 00015 [14 of 17]
- [17:41:08] Rebuilding stream 00017 [15 of 17]
- [17:41:22] Rebuilding stream 00012 [16 of 17]
- [17:41:53] Rebuilding stream 00004 [17 of 17]
- [17:44:21] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [17:44:25] CorrectMPLS() 00009 5
[17:45:31] - Aborted at user requestI'm going to have to put some code in to prevent resuming when the audio/sub selections change... that's a problem.