BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Ch3vr0n]

working fine here, check your system clock.

[wakko709]

thank you but no luck!

[wakko709]

never mind

[Lathe]

how do you know the extra's don't add up to the extra 15GB? Did you check every m2ts to see if they are an extra or not. No there isn't a bunch of "padding", if a disc is incorrectly decrypted and the same scene is played again they don't place the same scene a 2nd time on the disc. They just reference a 2nd time to that 1st scene in the playlist

Hmmm, well I guess that I just didn't understand the reasons behind some of these newer voluminous files; appreciate your explaining it.

[Lathe]

Okay, I got to thinking about it, and I THINK I can make it clearer as to what I am asking...

I have used BDRB hundreds of times to back up my Blu-rays. Now, up to THIS one that I'm asking about, almost every other one that I've done before, after BDRB loads the BDMV folder and analyzes it and then displays the 'Contents' of the Blu-ray, it has almost ALWAYS just consisted of maybe a few extras and one clear movie 'file' that is anywhere around 25-35 Gigs on the average (thus the need for BDRB) And, this movie 'file' shows below it the audio tracks available. And, you can clearly see the difference because the movie 'file' shows that is is like, say, 150,000 frames, which CLEARLY distinguishes it from all the small extras displayed in the contents.

NOW, in this case, it looks TOTALLY different. Instead of showing one big obvious movie file (and then the others which you can choose to 'blank' or 'preview' or whatever) you see literally 90 relatively small files of varying sizes which as you said apparently are all the little pieces of the movie. As a matter of fact, BDRB just got done processing the Blu-ray, and it literally made 90 2-Pass encodes. I've NEVER seen that before...

What I am asking, please, is WHY in THIS case does the resulting analysis of the contents of this Blu-ray look this way INSTEAD of what I've seen hundreds of times with other Blu-rays with the one CLEAR movie file and a number of other extras. In other words with 90 small pieces like that, doesn't that pretty much render the 'blanking' option irrelevant, because how can you possibly go through and identify what is what....?

I KNOW this probably sounds pretty dumb and basic compared to the MUCH more complex things you guys understand and deal with, but I am quite mystified why THIS blu-ray structure looks so very different and how BDRB processed it differently from almost all the hundreds of others that I've done.

Oh, BTW, you are right that this is indeed a Theatrical / Extended edition Blu-ray, so I don't know, would that be the ONLY reason why it looks this way? Would just that reason make this much difference in the way it is structured as compared to most others?

Thank you kindly for your time and help...

[Ch3vr0n]

bdrb uses a playlist and some algorithm to determine all the needed m2ts files to encode. That's why you see all those entries. Why does it look like that? I already told you, because cutting a movie into lots of smaller segments makes it easiers to include both a theatrical and extended cut on the same disc without having to include the entire movie a 2nd time. They just reference the extra segments in the playlist and that's it. It's one of two ways they can put a movie on the disc. 1 big file or lots of small ones. Nothing unusual, i've seen lots of those discs. They're more common than you think

If there's another reason i don't know but it's the only one i can think of and have encountered. If they didn't use those small segments and included the theatrical and extended movie in 1 big file each, they'd be needing the BDXL discs (upto 100GB each). Nothing unusual lots of small files

anyways. back on topic. This is a debug tread, not a discussion

[Ch3vr0n]

@jdobbs: just an FYI, "the hobbit, part 1" is another one of those movies where dgdecnv just "hangs" when it reaches the end of the extracting phase. the "current progress" bar stays at 100, never goes into encoding. dgdecnv process just sits there in the taskmanager and ya can leave it there for 15min, nothin happens as usual. The only fix is going back to x264's LAVF mode.

also: how close are you on releasing a build with full 3D support? I'd love to test it :)

[Sharc]

@jdobbs: just an FYI, "the hobbit, part 1" is another one of those movies where dgdecnv just "hangs" when it reaches the end of the extracting phase. the "current progress" bar stays at 100, never goes into encoding. dgdecnv process just sits there in the taskmanager and ya can leave it there for 15min, nothin happens as usual. The only fix is going back to x264's LAVF mode.
Hmmm ..... I recall posts #17738 ff.
In my case waiting 10 minutes, or aborting and resuming did the trick.

[Imperial Zeppelin]

Frozen driving anyone else nuts. I tried multiple boots, etc....

If I try Full Backup either from a AnyDVD ISO RIP, ISOBURN RIP or right from the disc, all mediated by AnyDVD of course:
[03/22/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.14 (beta)
[08:11:22] Source: FROZEN
- Input BD size: 40.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:59:12.532]
- Target BD size: 21.92 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:11:24] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:11:24] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 44)
- [08:11:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [08:11:30] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 800 frames
- Bitrate: 16,620 Kbs
- [08:11:30] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:11:58] Video Encode complete
- [08:11:58] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [08:12:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:12:05] Processing: VID_00879 (2 of 44)
- [08:12:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00879]
- [08:12:11] Reencoding video [VID_00879]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,372 frames
- Bitrate: 16,370 Kbs
- [08:12:11] Reencoding: VID_00879, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:12:48] Video Encode complete
- [08:12:48] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- ERROR preparing intermediate audio.
[08:12:49] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

If I go Movie only in any flavor listed above, I get:
[03/22/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.14 (beta)
[08:09:38] Source: FROZEN_00810
- Input BD size: 25.19 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:13.043]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:09:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:09:40] Processing: VID_00879 (1 of 11)
- [08:09:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00879]
- [08:09:46] Reencoding video [VID_00879]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,372 frames
- Bitrate: 28,293 Kbs
- [08:09:46] Reencoding: VID_00879, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:10:26] Video Encode complete
- [08:10:26] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- ERROR preparing intermediate audio.
[08:10:33] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted
- [08:10:52] ScanDirectory() 00005 2506

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs: just an FYI, "the hobbit, part 1" is another one of those movies where dgdecnv just "hangs" when it reaches the end of the extracting phase. the "current progress" bar stays at 100, never goes into encoding. dgdecnv process just sits there in the taskmanager and ya can leave it there for 15min, nothin happens as usual. The only fix is going back to x264's LAVF mode.

also: how close are you on releasing a build with full 3D support? I'd love to test it :) I'll have to test "The Hobbit, Pt 1" -- I haven't gotten that one yet, but I probably will soon. Unfortunately with the lack of donations in the last month I'm not planning to pick up any discs that aren't for my personal use. "Frozen" falls out of that category. It's one thing to work for nothing, it's another to pay for the privilege.

I have full 3D backups working -- but there is an picture-sync issue with multipart sources that I'm working. I'm hoping to get a special test version out in the next week or so.

[Imlurker2]

JDobbs

My bad for NOT RTFM. It is short enough.
I'll download the latest release.

Thanks you.

[rusty666]

most of time im encodeing it seems to be out of sync of the output file

[jdobbs]

most of time im encodeing it seems to be out of sync of the output fileI have no idea what you are saying.

[rusty666]

the past few films i have encoded have been out of sync.

[gonca]

rusty666
Could you supply some information, such as logs etc.

the past few films i have encoded have been out of sync.
is not helpful for debugging, since the last few I have done are in sync.

[rusty666]

sorry i didnt keep the logs . i done pacific rim 3d iso to bd25 3d sbs . it was way out of sync about half way till the end

[rusty666]

and i wanted peabody from xvid to blu ray but that was out of sync aswell

[Guest]

Where did you get Peabody in xvid?

[Ch3vr0n]

that and afaik bdrb can't handle Xvid's

[Guest]

@Lathe

Use of profanity can lead to strikes. And drama doesn't do any good for reputations here. Follow up to PM if needed. Thank you for your understanding.

[rusty666]

it let me input peabody in bdrebuilder. im did try iso 3d pacific rim twice to see if was anything to do with my system but still out of sync when played the output file

[Capsbackup]

that and afaik bdrb can't handle Xvid's

Actually, BD-RB does accept import of Xvid! :cool:

[Guest]

@Rusty666

To clarify rule 6 material here, I asked where you got your source material Peabody. Will you answer it?

[rusty666]

it was only the ts of peabody wat is floating about

[Guest]

it was only the ts of peabody wat is floating about I see, thank you. Please follow our forum rules, especially rule 6.

[Imperial Zeppelin]

I'll have to test "The Hobbit, Pt 1" -- I haven't gotten that one yet, but I probably will soon. Unfortunately with the lack of donations in the last month I'm not planning to pick up any discs that aren't for my personal use. "Frozen" falls out of that category. It's one thing to work for nothing, it's another to pay for the privilege.

I have full 3D backups working -- but there is an picture-sync issue with multipart sources that I'm working. I'm hoping to get a special test version out in the next week or so.

Turns out Frozen was just a matter of too many updates without a purge, nuked my BD Rebuilder folder and reinstalled everything including support programs.

However, did tweak me to send in a donation. I always said I'd send something in when it went from Beta, but I'm thinking that's no longer the strategy. Keep up the appreciated work!!

[colinhunt]

jdobbs, I found an earlier post where you mentioned that Quality setting is applied to FRIMencoder. Have you mapped "ENCODE_QUALITY=4" to FRIMencoder quality setting, or is "ENCODE_QUALITY=3" the highest setting that affects FRIMencoder?

[jdobbs]

Turns out Frozen was just a matter of too many updates without a purge, nuked my BD Rebuilder folder and reinstalled everything including support programs.

However, did tweak me to send in a donation. I always said I'd send something in when it went from Beta, but I'm thinking that's no longer the strategy. Keep up the appreciated work!!It's been in beta for over 5 years. I am continually making large changes, which keep it in beta (e.g. I'm working on full 3D backups right now that make numerous modifications to the code and a few subroutine rewrites).

[soneca]

jdobbs, could add a hidden option to change the font size of the subtitles (.srt) in import mode?
It would be great because the subtitles are a bit large and occasionally exceed the limits of the screen.

[rusty666]

does that mean full backup with menu even on the 3d iso converted to sbs?

[jdobbs]

does that mean full backup with menu even on the 3d iso converted to sbs?Right now it means a full backup of a standard 3D-BD format to a standard 3DBD format. But, a 3D SBS backup can already be backed up... because it is simply a 2D disc that has SBS implemented.

[raul124]

I have the latest FFDSHOW from the 1st page, what's the correct setting to make FFDSHOW work together with BD-Rebuilder? What do I need to tweak to make it right, because when I play the stream from the back up before I burn it to a BD-5 or BD-9, I hear a pitch sound coming from the play back stream. any advice would be appreciate it, thank you

[jdobbs]

I have the latest FFDSHOW from the 1st page, what's the correct setting to make FFDSHOW work together with BD-Rebuilder? What do I need to tweak to make it right, because when I play the stream from the back up before I burn it to a BD-5 or BD-9, I hear a pitch sound coming from the play back stream. any advice would be appreciate it, thank youYou're probably keeping an HD audio stream that isn't supported in FFDSHOW. I'm guessing that the original does the same thing, right?

[jdobbs]

Frozen driving anyone else nuts. I tried multiple boots, etc....

If I try Full Backup either from a AnyDVD ISO RIP, ISOBURN RIP or right from the disc, all mediated by AnyDVD of course:
[03/22/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.14 (beta)
[08:11:22] Source: FROZEN
- Input BD size: 40.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:59:12.532]
- Target BD size: 21.92 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:11:24] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:11:24] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 44)
- [08:11:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [08:11:30] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 800 frames
- Bitrate: 16,620 Kbs
- [08:11:30] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:11:58] Video Encode complete
- [08:11:58] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [08:12:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:12:05] Processing: VID_00879 (2 of 44)
- [08:12:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00879]
- [08:12:11] Reencoding video [VID_00879]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,372 frames
- Bitrate: 16,370 Kbs
- [08:12:11] Reencoding: VID_00879, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:12:48] Video Encode complete
- [08:12:48] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- ERROR preparing intermediate audio.
[08:12:49] - Failed to reencode audio, abortedI got a couple donations, so I picked up a copy of "Frozen". I had no issues at all with a full-backup. I have to believe that you either have a bad rip, or something is wrong with your setup. Here's where it gets past the point your log stops:[03/24/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.01 (beta)
[15:52:02] Source: FROZEN
- Input BD size: 40.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:59:12.532]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[15:52:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:52:04] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 44)
- [15:52:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [15:52:12] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 800 frames
- Bitrate: 17,468 Kbs
- [15:52:12] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:52:19] Video Encode complete
- [15:52:19] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [15:52:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:52:27] Processing: VID_00879 (2 of 44)
- [15:52:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00879]
- [15:52:34] Reencoding video [VID_00879]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,372 frames
- Bitrate: 17,207 Kbs
- [15:52:34] Reencoding: VID_00879, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:52:47] Video Encode complete
- [15:52:47] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [15:52:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:52:57] Processing: VID_00880 (3 of 44)
...

[rusty666]

thanx ill try converting a 3d iso to 3dbr sbs with menu

[jdobbs]

thanx ill try converting a 3d iso to 3dbr sbs with menuWhy not just wait a day or two and you will be able to do the backup without needing SBS. I'm almost done with the 3D full backups. All that's left is some additional testing.

[Sharc]

Any chance that the Quick-Play reauthoring issue will be fixed with the next release as well?

[rusty666]

its only because my dads mate only has a blu ray not a 3d blu ray player. up to know tho it dont say converting to side by side in 3d mode like it does when i do movie only . is that right?

[wakko709]

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD-RB v0.46.0.14, not current
not current? huh?

[mparade]

Why not just wait a day or two and you will be able to do the backup without needing SBS. I'm almost done with the 3D full backups. All that's left is some additional testing.

For me this means that a tiny bit of donation should be done urgently. :D

[rusty666]

i just did 3d iso to 3d br with sbs option full backup but all it did was a full backup 2d movie with menu not a sbs with menu

[Jackie Treehorn]

@Jackie Treehorn

Hi!

Such an apparently mystifying backup problem has been previously noted many times in this thread - and most often, believe it or not, the solution is to do a thorough cleaning of the disc and then perform the backup again...

Cleaned the disk and checked for scratches... same thing: sound throughout the entire movie, video frame gets stuck around halfway. Then I procured another copy of the original movie from a friend... same thing. I'm running out of ideas.

I have noticed two weird properties on the results though: each time I try to re-encode from the same file the frame seems to get stuck in a different location of the movie; and two, the resulting MP4 file size is way too small for a normal BD encode (1GB vs at least 8 normally) depite having sound and a stuck picture the entire movie.

Are these normal results from selecting the wrong playlists? Maybe AnyDVD is providing the wrong playlist?

Thanks for any further suggestions.

[Ch3vr0n]

well bad discs do come in batches. It could be that both of you have a copy of the movie that plays fine but is not fine to rip/shrink

[omegaman7]

Cleaned the disk and checked for scratches... same thing: sound throughout the entire movie, video frame gets stuck around halfway. Then I procured another copy of the original movie from a friend... same thing. I'm running out of ideas.

I have noticed two weird properties on the results though: each time I try to re-encode from the same file the frame seems to get stuck in a different location of the movie; and two, the resulting MP4 file size is way too small for a normal BD encode (1GB vs at least 8 normally) depite having sound and a stuck picture the entire movie.

Are these normal results from selecting the wrong playlists? Maybe AnyDVD is providing the wrong playlist?

Thanks for any further suggestions.

Sounds a lot like a problem I had once upon a time. It was a bad reading drive. I no longer use that drive for ripping discs. I only playback in real time now. I refuse to throw away a working-ish drive ;)
I would get a stuck frame at the exact same spot. Audio would continue. Ripped with a new LG drive, problem gone.

[Rileyrott]

For me this means that a tiny bit of donation should be done urgently. :D

On it's way. Thanks JDobbs! Awesome job, man!

[jdobbs]

For me this means that a tiny bit of donation should be done urgently. :D

On it's way. Thanks JDobbs! Awesome job, man!My thanks to you both. It is very much appreciated.

[rusty666]

it just did a 2d full fullback of the 3d iso not a sbs full backup?

[rusty666]

i mean i done a full backup with a 3d iso with sbs option but it came out a 2d full backup

[jdobbs]

Any chance that the Quick-Play reauthoring issue will be fixed with the next release as well?Not sure. I'm working on it now.

[FlipperBizkut]

Hello all. I hate to ask again, but I was wondering if anyone else was having problems importing mkv files and re-encoding them to 720p BD5s. I don't believe that it is my system, but it would be nice to know for sure that I'm not crazier than previously thought. Thanks!

As an aside, is there any way to make an older version of BD Rebuilder work again once you get the expired notice from said version?


Sorry if this has been mentioned before. I searched, and read, but did not find the issue.

I am using the import function to bring in an mkv. The mkv is encoded at 1080p. I am selecting the option to reduce it to 720p, and using BD5 as the output. I have done this many, many times with 100% success (speaking of, thanks for the excellent program!).

Once the 3D functionality was added to BD Rebuilder though, every time I attempt this conversion, I get an AVCHD with perfect audio, but only a gray screen for the video.

To try to debug this on my own, I re-ran the conversion with an older version of BD Rebuilder (45.05). It worked as expected, and the AVCHD came out fine. Doing it again (exactly the same way) in the newer version (46.07 at the time, and again with 46.14 now) yielded the gray screen result.

I believe that I have tracked the problem down to the new version of tsMuxeR.

I understand that most everyone is working on the new functionality of 3D, and Quick-Play, but I was hoping I could get someone to check out and see if there was a way to fix the previous functionality. I have been using multiAVCHD now for my conversions (which works), but for the vast majority of my needs, BD Rebuilder is the superior program.

Thanks, and thanks again for such a great program.