BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

Yes I did, I primarily use MKV now a days for my HTPC. Still do the odd BD25 when the extras are worth it.Hmm... interesting. I'll go back and review any changes I've made recently to the MKVMERGE command line. Strange, though, as you'd think it would be an issue all the time.

Hopefully when I run "Taken 2" I'll be able to repeat the issue. If I can do that it's usually an easy trace to find the fix.

[gonca]

Do you want me to check which version of MKVMERGE was in use at the time?

[jdobbs]

Do you want me to check which version of MKVMERGE was in use at the time?If it is the latest download, I know the version. (unless you have changed it)

[gonca]

I actually meant the MKVMERGE version for the good MKV encode.
6.0.0 on Feb 8,2013 according to MediaInfo

[jdobbs]

I actually meant the MKVMERGE version for the good MKV encode.
6.0.0 on Feb 8,2013 according to MediaInfoI see. The current version is 6.1.0. I have the job running now. Hopefully I'll see the same results.

[colinhunt]

I previously did Taken 2 to 1920x1080 DD640 with no issues. Could it be the resizing or a x264 tweak causing the issue?
Well, I'm not resizing and my tweak is "--tune film" only.

[colinhunt]

my disc is obviously different than his as the playlist doesn't match.
Oh, damn. So you wasted your money? :/

[omegaman7]

Making a discovery is hardly wasteful ;) But I know what you're saying.

[jdobbs]

Oh, damn. So you wasted your money? :/ It happens.

I found the issue in "Taken 2". It's related to the length of the chapter file name when there are enough parts to make the file name too long. I need to add some code to handle that possibility. I'm not positive if this is the issue on the other disc, but I'll see what I can find.

[jdobbs]

@colinhunt

I've corrected the issue I found in "Taken 2". But it doesn't seem to be related to the issue you've reported. Yours seems to be happening during MKVMERGE, and that one happened before MKVMERGE was executed. Since your release of "House at the End of the Street" seems to be different than mine, I'm not sure what I can do.

When you changed to Directshow, did you resume the last job or start over from scratch? If you resumed, could you try clearing the working folder and starting from scratch?

Is there any way you could point me (Amazon maybe?) to the version of the disc that is having the issue?

[colinhunt]

When you changed to Directshow, did you resume the last job or start over from scratch?
Started from scratch, always do in cases like this.

Is there any way you could point me (Amazon maybe?) to the version of the disc that is having the issue?
I bought mine second-hand (can't afford to buy many new ones these days) but the seller said it's the NA version. Same cover as the Amazon.com version, same subs too, but Amazon.com lists English, French and Spanish soundtracks whereas mine has only English. It's not the Spanish release either.

It's somewhat moot now, since the problem raised its ugly head again last night, but this time the source was not a Blu-ray. It was an MPEG-2 .ts 1080i/29.97fps HDTV transmission which BD-RB (0.44.15) attempted to encode into a de-interlaced 1080p/29.97fps MKV. Same error, "Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure - ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)". What's more, I was running the encode on another PC.

[lauguru]

bdrebuilder not recognize either the structure, and the extras are not.

[07/14/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.15 (beta)
[20:55:31] Source: THE_HOST
- Input BD size: 29,19 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:39:42.812]
- Target BD size: 23,77 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:55:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:55:38] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 5)
- [20:55:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:05:56] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 180.500 frames
- Bitrate: 13.733 Kbs
- [21:05:56] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:31:38] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:12:04] Video Encode complete
- [23:12:05] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (cat): Keeping original audio
- [23:12:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:24:26] Processing: VID_00010 (2 of 5)
- [23:24:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [23:24:30] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 328 frames
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [23:24:30] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:24:32] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:24:34] Video Encode complete
- [23:24:34] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- [23:24:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:24:38] Processing: VID_00011 (3 of 5)
- [23:24:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [23:24:42] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 120 frames

"C:\Users\xxxx\Desktop\xxxxxxx\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264-64.exe" "I:\BOOMREB\WORKFILES\00020.track_4113.264" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --demuxer lavf --fps 24000/1001 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --open-gop --qpmin=0 --bitrate 954 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "I:\BOOMREB\WORKFILES\00020.track_4113.264.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "I:\BOOMREB\WORKFILES\00020.track_4113.264.264"

[Ch3vr0n]

where's the rest of the log? You cut of the bottom part

[Traltixx]

Set the number of x264 instances you'd like running concurrently with the MULTIPROCESS hidden option. See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for documentation.

[Edit] Be careful, though. Pass 2 uses more CPU than pass 1 -- and setting MULTIPROCESS too high can actually give you diminishing returns.

Hello,
is there any way to increase BDRB processing speed?
My machine is a siemens fujitsu rx600 server with 4 x intel xeon 3 GHz - each of them can handle two threads.
Even BDRB uses all eight threads the overall processor load is only about 42 %.
How can I change that?

Greetings from Germany

Thanks for your answer!
Though my english is very poor you understood what I meant - I am glad about that :-) ...
I already tried out the MULTIPROCESS option at different settings (from "1" to "8") but BDRB responded only with endless efforts to "split" any files without the least progress. In fact the program stopped.
Did I make something wrong?

Greetings from my hometown Hamburg/Northern Germany
Glenn Garthmann

[montana72]

the blu ray Spanish of "the host", upon opening it happens a strange case. It appears only the film not the extras but then the weight of the extras if you have them in mind. I.e. the film weighs 24 gigabytes and extra 29, my intention was to remove the extras to not encode but not me to option to delete the extras since they do not appear.

If you need any single data you must tell me what

[jdobbs]

the blu ray Spanish of "the host", upon opening it happens a strange case. It appears only the film not the extras but then the weight of the extras if you have them in mind. I.e. the film weighs 24 gigabytes and extra 29, my intention was to remove the extras to not encode but not me to option to delete the extras since they do not appear.

If you need any single data you must tell me what
I'll pick that one up and take a look at it.

[jdobbs]

the blu ray Spanish of "the host", upon opening it happens a strange case. It appears only the film not the extras but then the weight of the extras if you have them in mind. I.e. the film weighs 24 gigabytes and extra 29, my intention was to remove the extras to not encode but not me to option to delete the extras since they do not appear.

If you need any single data you must tell me what Ok, I looked at the US version of "The Host" and I'm not seeing anything unusual. Maybe you could explain your issue a little more specifically?

If you only want the movie -- why not select "Movie-Only" mode instead of trying to remove the extras.

[montana72]

Hello, is that happens only with the Spanish Edition is of linking national editor, not Universal as the USA.

I do not usually select only movie because I think removes the menu and I like to leave the menu and only remove the extras.

As I said what happens is that you enter them do not appear on the toolbar content, only the film and the logos that appear at the beginning.

But then, if you have them in weight, i.e., says 29 gigabytes of the 22 that indicates only the film.

Thank you.

[jdobbs]

Hello, is that happens only with the Spanish Edition is of linking national editor, not Universal as the USA.

I do not usually select only movie because I think removes the menu and I like to leave the menu and only remove the extras.

As I said what happens is that you enter them do not appear on the toolbar content, only the film and the logos that appear at the beginning.

But then, if you have them in weight, i.e., says 29 gigabytes of the 22 that indicates only the film.

Thank you.Still not sure I fully understand, but try adding this to your Config/INI file's [OPTIONS] section:

MIN_M2TS_SIZE=0

[montana72]

I could draw as it is used DOWNRESIZE = s when the result record is a little big.?

Thank you.

[jdobbs]

I could draw as it is used DOWNRESIZE = s when the result record is a little big.?

Thank you.I'm sorry, but I don't understand. DOWNRESIZE allows you to select an alternate AVISYNTH filter for resizing to a smaller resolution (like 1080p to 720p). The default is BicubicResize(). It doesn't affect target sizes.

[Capsbackup]

I was trying to import a 1920 x 1080, h264, 29.97 fps .ts file HD TV capture from my Hauppauge HD PVR to convert to DVD 9.
There appears to be a problem loading a .ts file by way of the "File, Import, Video Files" method. BD-RB allows the import, but as soon as you click "Backup", the error message "You must specify both SOURCE and WORKING directories" pops up. So even though the Source .ts file is imported correctly, it is not kept in the Source Path, so BD-RB throws out this error.
The Working path is set. :confused:

[jdobbs]

I was trying to import a 1920 x 1080, h264, 29.97 fps .ts file HD TV capture from my Hauppauge HD PVR to convert to DVD 9.
There appears to be a problem loading a .ts file by way of the "File, Import, Video Files" method. BD-RB allows the import, but as soon as you click "Backup", the error message "You must specify both SOURCE and WORKING directories" pops up. So even though the Source .ts file is imported correctly, it is not kept in the Source Path, so BD-RB throws out this error.
The Working path is set. :confused:That's weird. After it's imported it is an M2TS file in BD format -- and the IMPORT does all formats pretty much the same way. I'll create a TS file and do an import. If I can't repeat it, can you provide me with a clip that causes the issue?

[Capsbackup]

That's weird.If I can't repeat it, can you provide me with a clip that causes the issue?

Yes I can. :)

[jdobbs]

Yes I can. :) I'm thinking about getting the Hauppauge HD capture device or something similar. How do you like it?

[Racer]

Is it actually possible that BD Rebuilder creates one m2ts file instead of an iso file? Thanks!

[jdobbs]

Is it actually possible that BD Rebuilder creates one m2ts file instead of an iso file? Thanks!You can certainly make an M2TS. Just output to movie-only -- and then keep only the M2TS found in BDMV/STREAM.

An ISO is only created if you have that option enabled (under SETTINGS/OUTPUT OPTIONS).

[Racer]

You can certainly make an M2TS. Just output to movie-only -- and then keep only the M2TS found in BDMV/STREAM.

An ISO is only created if you have that option enabled (under SETTINGS/OUTPUT OPTIONS).

But even in movie-only there are sometimes several files for the movie, then I still need to merge.

[jdobbs]

But even in movie-only there are sometimes several files for the movie, then I still need to merge.In movie-only mode there will always be only one M2TS in the output.

[Racer]

Last time I made a "Quick-Play Backup" I had several single files of the main movie.

Anyway I have seen that BD Rebduiler can also make MKVs.
What would be the correct settings for it:
MKV Container, NO_RESIZE, AutoGOP, Auto-AAC
or
MKV Container, Intact Video, AutoGOP, Auto-AAC

And what size (MB) do I have to put in for "Two pass target size"
- for DVD-5
- for DVD-9

Auto-AAC means that also DTS is converted to AC3?

Sorry for all the questions! Thanks for your efforts!

[jdobbs]

Last time I made a "Quick-Play Backup" I had several single files of the main movie.

Anyway I have seen that BD Rebduiler can also make MKVs.
What would be the correct settings for it:
MKV Container, NO_RESIZE, AutoGOP, Auto-AAC
or
MKV Container, Intact Video, AutoGOP, Auto-AAC

And what size (MB) do I have to put in for "Two pass target size"
- for DVD-5
- for DVD-9

Auto-AAC means that also DTS is converted to AC3?

Sorry for all the questions! Thanks for your efforts!Quick Play is NOT Movie-Only. A Quick Play backup can also include the extras and is a reauthoring mechanism. You need to select "Movie-Only" to create a single M2TS.

The settings would depend on what you want. If you pick "Intact Video" you will get the untouched original video into the MKV (with the same video size as the original). If you pick NO_RESIZE it will be reencoded at the same resolution to whatever target you select.

If you are planning to make a BD -- don't select MKV as output. Making an MKV doesn't guarantee BD compatibility. If you pick MKV and wanted to create a BD, you'll likely have to reencode again.

But, to create an MKV that will fit on a DVD-5, 4469 is a good number. For a DVD-9: 8032

AAC is NOT AC3. It is a completely different audio format that is very popular today and uses advanced algorithms to give higher quality at lower bitrates (e.g. it is used on iPods/iPads and is routinely used in MP4). AAC is not compatible with BD or DVD playback standards.

[Capsbackup]

I'm thinking about getting the Hauppauge HD capture device or something similar. How do you like it?

It is the best one I could find for HD capture with DD 5.1 audio. Mine is the USB version, model 1212.
I can capture HBO, etc... 1080i, 720P or to whatever the content is delivered as.
The main issue I have with it is the captured recording cannot be directly burned to BD/AVCHD because the TFF, 29.97fps capture experiences horrible combing and jittery playback associated with what I think is the wrong field order captured. Thus I am forced to reencode to either deinterlace or TIVTC to 23.976 fps progressive. This works quite well!
I have done Dexter, Game of Thrones, Homeland, Weeds and others with quite impressive results. :cool:

[jdobbs]

It is the best one I could find for HD capture with DD 5.1 audio. Mine is the USB version, model 1212.
I can capture HBO, etc... 1080i, 720P or to whatever the content is delivered as.
The main issue I have with it is the captured recording cannot be directly burned to BD/AVCHD because the TFF, 29.97fps capture experiences horrible combing and jittery playback associated with what I think is the wrong field order captured. Thus I am forced to reencode to either deinterlace or TIVTC to 23.976 fps progressive. This works quite well!
I have done Dexter, Game of Thrones, Homeland, Weeds and others with quite impressive results. :cool: Do you capture from HDMI or Component outputs?

What I like is the ability to capture classic movies in HD that haven't been released on BD. I see them all the time, and the picture is beautiful compared to DVD.

I wonder if the issue is related to pulldown?

[Capsbackup]

Do you capture from HDMI or Component outputs?

What I like is the ability to capture classic movies in HD that haven't been released on BD. I see them all the time, and the picture is beautiful compared to DVD.

I wonder if the issue is related to pulldown?

I use Component, so I can capture protective content too! ;)
Not sure about pulldown. Is that necessary for straight HD capture to AVCHD? :confused:
A typical script I use that works quite well for HBO, Showtime, and Starz is:
(tfm(order=1).tdecimate())

[Capsbackup]

Just tried BD-RB again on the source that would not work yesterday, and it is now working! :)
Not sure what happened, but operator error seems to be the culprit! :o

[dfsooner]

I'm thinking about getting the Hauppauge HD capture device or something similar. How do you like it?

I've been using this device for about 3 years and it works very well with Arcsoft TME 2. I use it mostly for sporting events but have never tried using the captured data with BDRB unless I have first authored a BD with TMPgenc Authoring Works. Then I've had trouble with the menus. I think BDRB doesn't recognize the menu
m2ts file as a menu.

[Rich86]

Forced Subtitles:
Forced Subtitles still do not seem to work correctly. "Dead Man Down" blu-ray - making a movie only blu-ray from the source.
The forced subtitles work fine in the original with subtitles set to off. There are 48 forced subtitle entries in 2 of the 4 english .sup files.
I included all 4 english subtitles when creating the movie only blu-ray with version 44.15 of BDRB. But the forced subtitles do not work.
Check for this around the 13 minute mark when she is looking out the window waving to Colin Farrell, then has a conversation in french with her mother.
Is there a setting I am missing for this?

[MrT.]

I saw that FFDSHOW link in first post was newer than what I was using, so I updated it as well.
In video decoder config, I went to enable mpeg2. There was always 2 options to enable it, but with this new update, gives just one. Does everyone else just have 1 as well?
it was libavcodec and ive always used the other one :|

[jdobbs]

I saw that FFDSHOW link in first post was newer than what I was using, so I updated it as well.
In video decoder config, I went to enable mpeg2. There was always 2 options to enable it, but with this new update, gives just one. Does everyone else just have 1 as well?
it was libavcodec and ive always used the other one :|Mine still has two choices. When I installed it I installed over the last (without removing first). I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

[MrT.]

I understand.
I uninstalled, rebooted, than install new version. Is "libavcodec " the correct choice? The MPEG2 setting has always stumped me and I always confuse. If libavcodec is right I guess I should be happy now :) to go along with your BD-RB contributuion.. <3

[mikeonecl]

i have glitch and frame skip on processing fast and the furious USA version on full movie, occurs on diferent parts of the movie, including the universal start. v.4.4.15 and 4.4.14

somebody can test to avoid a bad rip

thanks

[jdobbs]

I understand.
I uninstalled, rebooted, than install new version. Is "libavcodec " the correct choice? The MPEG2 setting has always stumped me and I always confuse. If libavcodec is right I guess I should be happy now :) to go along with your BD-RB contributuion.. <3 I tested both a long time ago, and the speed and quality looked the same to me. I'm currently using "libavcodec".

[setarip_old]

@mikeonecl

Hi! i have glitch and frame skip on processing fast and the furious USA version on full movie... Try using several different players...

[mikeonecl]

i tried, and the problem is on conversion. i try bd50 no problems.

@mikeonecl

Hi! Try using several different players...

[gonca]

i have glitch and frame skip on processing fast and the furious USA version on full movie, occurs on diferent parts of the movie, including the universal start. v.4.4.15 and 4.4.14

somebody can test to avoid a bad rip

thanks

What kind of blank media do you use? What burning speed?

[worknstiff]

RE: CONVERSION BITRATE??
Not really a "BUG" report per se but maybe a prob that needs looked into or at least something I'm wondering about. I made a custom multiAVCHD disk of GOT. It was comprised of three .m2ts files from individual episodes created with BD_Rebuilder. The 1st was 9.05gb, 2nd one was 13.2gb, and the 3rd was 9.63gb. When I compressed it down here is part of the logs--------

GAME_OF_THRONES_S1D2_MULTIAVCHD
- Input BD size: 31.99 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:47:54.331]
- Target BD size: 23.68 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640


The BD_Rebuilder compression bitrates are as follows--------

---(9.05gb .m2ts)
Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 3)
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 78,078 frames
- Bitrate: 15,592 Kbs

---(13.2gb .m2ts)
Processing: VID_00001 (2 of 3)
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 75,688 frames
- Bitrate: 23,869 Kbs

---(9.63gb .m2ts)
Processing: VID_00002 (3 of 3)
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 83,128 frames
- Bitrate: 15,602 Kbs

The resulting file sizes are respectively as follows (6.47gb, 9.48gb, and 6.90gb)

I can sort of understand if the middle .m2ts file was smaller and ended up with more bitrate but for it to give the larger file more bitrate seems counter-intuitive, at least to my admittedly limited understanding of the process. I am going to run it through again and see if the results are the same, but I noticed the previous compilation had skewed distribution also. I guess it could just be an anomaly of my system or of the pre-processing of multiAVCHD, even though it says it left the video and audio untouched.

thanks jdobbs for your amazing program, I don't know what I did with all my spare time until it came along, lol.

[jdobbs]

The bitrates are relative to the original bitrate. So if the middle file had a higher bitrate on the original -- it would have a higher bitrate on the backup. That's to keep the allocation consistent with the original authoring -- which typically is allocated based upon complexity.

[worknstiff]

ok , that makes sense, but it still makes me think I'm not utilizing the limited space the best but maybe I can't really tell the difference in quality between 23,000 bitrate and 15,000 anyhow. Come to think of it, the bigger .m2ts came from a 50gb disk with only one episode and lots of extras, that's why I wanted to re-author it anyhow, doh! Thanks for your
quick reply to my questions, worknstiff

[mikeonecl]

the glitch occurs including the conversion saved on hard disk. somebody can test the usa version of the film???

What kind of blank media do you use? What burning speed?

[gonca]

@mikeonecl
Which fast and furious movie, the first or the fourth, since they have very similar names.