BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Furiousflea]

@kanerulz69
Go the Mediainfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/) way ;)
Please just give us the resolution (i.e. 1080p or 720p) and bitrate.
Keep in mind that High-Speed is meant to be used with One-pass and BD-25.

@jdobbs
Some logs encoding Black Hawk Down, region B, movie only, PCM audio

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[19.59.39] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19.59.39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19.59.39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20.38.08] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 5,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 22,09 for encode.
[23.53.00]PHASE ONE complete
[23.53.00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23.53.00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00.11.44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00.11.44]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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[12.30.27] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[12.30.27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12.30.27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [13.20.35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 10,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 21,97 for encode.
[13.56.21]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
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[14.39.03] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[14.39.07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14.39.07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15.24.40] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 20,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 23,38 for encode.
[19.07.05]PHASE ONE complete
[19.07.05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19.07.05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[19.29.20] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[19.29.20]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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[19.48.19] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19.48.19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19.48.19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20.35.14] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 40,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 23,47 for encode.
[00.42.26]PHASE ONE complete
[00.42.27]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00.42.27] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[01.01.56] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[01.01.56]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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My understanding is that 20% sample should be the best option. I'll test Blade Runner (final cut) ASAP.

What use are these logs without getting a final output size? What was it, for each sample size. Thanx :)

[apophis906]

I think I might have found a bug. It is only with extras that are 480 and 4:3. When they are played back in my PS3 they are streched out to 16:9. I have done this on two different computers and get the same results. I tried redoing them by copying the lastcmd file and changing the SAR from 8:9 to 10:11. When doing that they stay 4:3 when played back on the PS3. Can someone else that has a PS3 check and see if they have 4:3 extras being stretched to 16:9.

[daberti]

What use are these logs without getting a final output size? What was it, for each sample size. Thanx :)

Destination meant was BD-25. Output achieved was waving between 17.7GB (10% sampling) and 17.9GB (40% sampling).

[jdobbs]

Basically any Universal title with PiP and probably others which are done to bd-9 full disc (the files that don't work on on a bd-9 are fine if coped to a bd-25) - some of the ones I've actually done:

Mummy series
Bourne series
day the earth (new)
changeling
frost nixon
twilight
wanted
madagascar 2

I'm hoping that when you release the version with PiP audio that that might nail the issue with those with suitable audio streams. You're obviously doing something differently than me -- because I've done both "Frost/Nixon" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" many times -- they are two of my PiP test discs -- and they work fine for me on both of my Sony players.

Are you preprocessing at all? Any editing or tweaking? What are you using to rip the discs?

[Furiousflea]

You're obviously doing something differently than me -- because I've done both "Frost/Nixon" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" many times -- they are two of my PiP test discs -- and they work fine for me on both of my Sony players.

Are you preprocessing at all? Any editing or tweaking? What are you using to rip the discs?

Are you burning to DVD9 though ;)

This problem has been known since way back hasn't it(?) Did you ever find an actual solution to this as I don't think the problem was ever tackled. It got bought up a few times but then conversation always moved on to something else.

I haven't tried DVD9 backups for any Universal titles since I got a BD writer but before that I did experience this exact problem (silence with no audio\subs selectable on BD9 backups) for "The Matrix".

FTR that was with no tweaking\pre processing. I even mentioned this in the list of players that support BDRB etc a few months ago. Unless something has changed since then and it should now be working?

[Furiousflea]

Destination meant was BD-25. Output achieved was waving between 17.7GB (10% sampling) and 17.9GB (40% sampling).

Cheers dude, interesting results. Looks like we should be able to get some pretty accurate results then, no? :)

[Capsbackup]

This problem has been known since way back hasn't it(?) Did you ever find an actual solution to this as I don't think the problem was ever tackled. It got bought up a few times but then conversation always moved on to something else.

I too experienced this issue many months back at BD-RB intro, when I was testing full backups to BD-5, usually DVD+RW, but I just figured it to be a limitation of AVCHD. I have only had success with a few full movie backups to BD-5. ( I was not after quality for the test, just success before trying BD-9 )
I now do full movie backups to BD-RE and BD-R, and they are almost always perfect.
I do movie only backups to BD-5, and have never had a failure yet! :D

[Mediogre]

You're obviously doing something differently than me -- because I've done both "Frost/Nixon" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" many times -- they are two of my PiP test discs -- and they work fine for me on both of my Sony players.

Are you preprocessing at all? Any editing or tweaking? What are you using to rip the discs?

I am having the same problem as drmih. No pre-processing for me. I have found that the ones I have tried do play fine in Sony players but do not ( main movie does not start) in PowerDVD8 and Panasonic players.

[Furiousflea]

I am having the same problem as drmih. No pre-processing for me. I have found that the ones I have tried do play fine in Sony players but do not ( main movie does not start) in PowerDVD8 and Panasonic players.

That's not the same issue at all.

Completely different, he's talking about Universal titles ONLY where the video DOES play but there is no audio\subtitles and pressing anything on the remote won't let you switch them on. It's as if they aren't there.

Your issue is a common one for panasonic players where to fix it you have to turn OFF 24p playback on the player. I can't comment on the PowerDVD situation since I experience a similar quirk where a fair few discs just come up with a black screen. But I have noticed in the past that these discs are often fixed by downloading the latest PowerDVD update for your version.

[Furiousflea]

I too experienced this issue many months back at BD-RB intro, when I was testing full backups to BD-5, usually DVD+RW, but I just figured it to be a limitation of AVCHD. I have only had success with a few full movie backups to BD-5. ( I was not after quality for the test, just success before trying BD-9 )
I now do full movie backups to BD-RE and BD-R, and they are almost always perfect.
I do movie only backups to BD-5, and have never had a failure yet! :D

Could well be a limitation of AVCHD since BD5\BD9 backups are detected as such. But then BD-Live still works and other discs don't have problems and it's not like the PiP track is being displayed. Would be nice to know the actual reason...Personlly I'm not too fussed but hey :)

[jdobbs]

Are you burning to DVD9 though ;)

This problem has been known since way back hasn't it(?) Did you ever find an actual solution to this as I don't think the problem was ever tackled. It got bought up a few times but then conversation always moved on to something else.

I haven't tried DVD9 backups for any Universal titles since I got a BD writer but before that I did experience this exact problem (silence with no audio\subs selectable on BD9 backups) for "The Matrix".

FTR that was with no tweaking\pre processing. I even mentioned this in the list of players that support BDRB etc a few months ago. Unless something has changed since then and it should now be working? First -- I'm not even convinced yet that it "is" a problem yet. Especially with the PiP processing in the state of flux that it's in. Most of my backups are DVD-9. But I've also tested it on BD-25. You say it's "has been known since way back" -- but I can only remember one person who has reported it (albeit several times). I have two different Sony models -- and it never occurs. So I have to ask whether there is some "tinkering" going on.

Have you experienced it?

I did find some things in the STN tables that may be associated with this -- so maybe the new version (see below) will have an effect. Don't know, though, since it works okay for me either way.

[jdobbs]

I am having the same problem as drmih. No pre-processing for me. I have found that the ones I have tried do play fine in Sony players but do not ( main movie does not start) in PowerDVD8 and Panasonic players. But he's reporting the exact opposite -- that it doesn't work in Sony players. So what you're saying supports my point.

[jdobbs]

I've posted a new version for download on the first post of this thread. Lots of changes. The one-pass should be pretty accurate now (I finally gave up on the .stats approach, it was just too random, and borrowed some code from DVD Rebuilder). Here is a summary of the changes for this version:- Replaced the prediction algorithm for one-pass
encoding. It now does prediction passes until it
finds the correct CRF. This should be much more
accurate - but please remember it may take
slightly more time and is still experimental.
Note: On very small sources it can be faster to
do a first pass than to predict CRF. When BD-RB's
analysis indicates this to be the case, a two-pass
encode will be done, even when one-pass mode is
selected.
- Corrected issues found in update of MPLS STN
tables for secondary audio and video streams.
- Made changes to secondary audio processing that
should make DD+ PiP tracks start working. Note:
you must have "PROCESS_SECONDARY=1" set in INI.
- Updated X264 to r1183, this new version includes
speed improvements and other fixes/enhancements.
- Made changes to all X264 command lines to make
BD-RB compatible with new defaults starting in
X264 r1179. This means that BD-RB now requires
X264 version r1179 or higher.
- Added "--ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1" to the
encoding command line to lessen "pulsing" on
sources that are very highly compressed.
- Added code to recognize and workaround encoding
issues on very small sources.
- Changed "Quick Encode for Extras" so it is ON by
default. Most encode will benefit with faster
completion.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.Just a note on the prediction. I'm currently doing a 1% sample. It seems to work well, but if you are willing to sacrifice a little time, you can do a 2% sample and likely will get more accurate. If the 1% doesn't work out, I will change the default in the next release. You can change it now, if you're so inclined, by adding the following to the [Options] area of the INI (config):

23.976fps sources (default is 4800/48):

SAMPLE_GROUP=4800
SAMPLE_SIZE=96

25fps sources (default is 5000/50):

SAMPLE_GROUP=5000
SAMPLE_SIZE=100

29.97fps sources (default is 6000/60):

SAMPLE_GROUP=6000
SAMPLE_SIZE=120

You can also tweak the sizing with:

CRF_ADJUST=n.n

Legal values are .1 through 2.0, the default is .96. Very low values will probably crash. It adjusts the target size for CRF, the .96 is to allow 4% for inaccuracy. It's likely that .97 or .98 would probably be ok for a 2% sample. If you oversize because you've changed this value, though -- don't be surprised, and don't complain to me!

I'm also tweaking the algorithm that determines the number of prediction passes, so you may see some improvements there in upcoming versions.

[drmih]

First -- I'm not even convinced yet that it "is" a problem yet. Especially with the PiP processing in the state of flux that it's in. Most of my backups are DVD-9. But I've also tested it on BD-25. You say it's "has been known since way back" -- but I can only remember one person who has reported it (albeit several times). I have two different Sony models -- and it never occurs. So I have to ask whether there is some "tinkering" going on.

Have you experienced it?

I did find some things in the STN tables that may be associated with this -- so maybe the new version (see below) will have an effect. Don't know, though, since it works okay for me either way.

No tinkering and Anydvd to rip. The one thing which I have mentioned is that the same files encoded to bd-9 size on the Pc HDD will give this problem on a dvd-dl but work fine on a bd-rw. The one thing I haven't tried is different types of blank media.

[jdobbs]

Try the latest. Meanwhile I'll do Frost/Nixon again...

[Sharc]

I've posted a new version for download on the first post of this thread. Lots of changes. The one-pass should be pretty accurate now ........ I'm also tweaking the algorithm that determines the number of prediction passes, so you may see some improvements there in upcoming versions.
Good news .... Thanks :)

[chudm]

no bd-25 high speed option? should i select good quality (Faster)? btw thx man :D i should test again kung fu panda :P, and check if it will play the main movie fine on the panasonic bd-30

[jdobbs]

no bd-25 high speed option? should i select good quality (Faster)? btw thx man :D i should test again kung fu panda :P, and check if it will play the main movie fine on the panasonic bd-30 It's still there. You have to select BD-25 for it to show in the menu (same as the last version).

[Capsbackup]

Just for a point of reference, I reported this way back at the beginning. Also reported after testing the same disc with the Sony S301 that jdobbs has that it played perfectly. I still have the DVD-R disc, and I have tested it after the last few firmware updates for my BX1 to see if it may work, but still no luck. :rolleyes:


Well I just finished backing up The Scorpion King, NTSC, Full backup, 4.09GB and burned to DVD+RW. Not having much success here and I am not sure what the problem is. Let me clarify - the audio for the main movie just does not play when burned to a DVD+RW, as with previous attempts. The main menu only plays for about 33 seconds before pausing, and when it continues, there is only audio while the video remains a still image at the pause point. I can select the menu buttons for the disc, so all is still functioning. However, after selecting play, the movie starts and the video looks great, just no audio is heard. Also, as with other backup tests reported, I cannot select subtitles from the remote, no pop up or available subtitles are displayed. Same with audio button, no pop up to display other available tracks.
So I burn the same files to a BD-RE disc, and now the audio and subtitles play fine, with the ability to change both audio and subtitle tracks from the remote during playback of the movie.( There is only the 1 eng. AC3 audio file that plays of course, but the button on the remote brings up the options as if there were other tracks available). The menu video still does its pause at the same time interval as the DVD+RW. However, this is not a big concern since I usually press play before the menu loop anyway, but I just wanted to report my findings.
I only have the Sony BDP-BX1 to test with, so I don't know if it is player related or if it could be a BD-RB bug. I use only the default settings, and ImgBurn.
I have made numerous movie only backups, not with BD-RB, and never had a problem.BDP-BX1 plays back movie only perfectly. I hope these tests I have reported can help track down if there is a bug, or if I need to do or change something, I am open to any and all suggestions. I would like to be able to keep the menus and burn to DVD-R or DVD+R DL just like all of those succesful reports I have read!

Maybe a new test with this new release BD-RBV02502 would also be helpful. However, I seem quite content for BD-25 full movie backups, now that the BD media is at a more acceptable price, and BD-5 or BD-9 for movie only backups.
I'm just happy with all these options!!
Thanks jdobbs. :)

[chudm]

It's still there. You have to select BD-25 for it to show in the menu (same as the last version).

ohhh i see sorry my bad :thanks:

[jdobbs]

Just for a point of reference, I reported this way back at the beginning. Also reported after testing the same disc with the Sony S301 that jdobbs has that it played perfectly. I still have the DVD-R disc, and I have tested it after the last few firmware updates for my BX1 to see if it may work, but still no luck. :rolleyes:




Maybe a new test with this new release BD-RBV02502 would also be helpful. However, I seem quite content for BD-25 full movie backups, now that the BD media is at a more acceptable price, and BD-5 or BD-9 for movie only backups.
I'm just happy with all these options!!
Thanks jdobbs. :) It also plays correctly on the Sony BDP-S360. I'm hoping it has something to do with the way I was updating the MPLS tables and it will go away. My fear (and the probability), though, is that it is just a limitation on certain players related to PiP and DVD-5/9 discs. All the asking for "jdobbs to look at it" in the world isn't going to help in that scenario, because only Sony can fix it.

[Capsbackup]

It also plays correctly on the Sony BDP-S360. I'm hoping it has something to do with the way I was updating the MPLS tables and it will go away. My fear (and the probability), though, is that it is just a limitation on certain players related to PiP and DVD-5/9 discs. All the asking for "jdobbs to look at it" in the world isn't going to help in that scenario, because only Sony can fix it.

I do agree, and am glad I purchased a Sony. I can only guess how much time you spend trying to chase down bugs that are reported, that don't appear on Sony players. :p

[Furiousflea]

First -- I'm not even convinced yet that it "is" a problem yet. Especially with the PiP processing in the state of flux that it's in. Most of my backups are DVD-9. But I've also tested it on BD-25. You say it's "has been known since way back" -- but I can only remember one person who has reported it (albeit several times). I have two different Sony models -- and it never occurs. So I have to ask whether there is some "tinkering" going on.

Have you experienced it?

I did find some things in the STN tables that may be associated with this -- so maybe the new version (see below) will have an effect. Don't know, though, since it works okay for me either way.

Thanx for the new version :)

As said already, I have experienced it with "The Matrix" and discussed it here a while ago. This is with zero fiddling with the source. Straight rip with AnyDVD HD -> loaded in BDRB. Anyways I do agree that it is most likely a limitation of the player and personally it doesn't concern me. Was just attempting to clarify the other members postition as I have also experienced what he was talking about.

Regardless, not an issue for me since I don't use BD5\9 for anything other than animation with little extras.

Keep up the good work, will be sure to make another donation in the coming week or two.

[Furiousflea]

Just doing "The Matrix" now target BD25 will report back with results on PiP functionality on my S550 in a couple of hours :)

[daberti]

Cheers dude, interesting results. Looks like we should be able to get some pretty accurate results then, no? :)

Everything can always be improved. I wish to test my own Blade Runner EU (Final Cut) too, though. As I previously said I've the suspect that 20% analyzing should be the best compromise.

But...wait a while: new BD-RB version released.
My thoughts were made under 0.25.1 .

[Kakashi Sensei]

Cool new version to try out. Gonna try this on the Matrix and see if I get the stuttering picture issue i had with the previous ver.

But i'm starting to think its my source not BD-RB

[setarip_old]

@Kakashi Sensei

Hi!But i'm starting to think its my source not BD-RBHaven't you simply tried playing your original commercial BluRay disc on your pc and standalone(s) and/or PS3, to determine whether it's problematic?

[Kakashi Sensei]

@Kakashi Sensei

Hi!Haven't you simply tried playing your original commercial BluRay disc on your pc and standalone(s) and/or PS3, to determine whether it's problematic?

the Bluray plays fine but I think the AnyDVD HD rip went bad somewhere, i just didn't rerip to the PC yet. Should've done that first (i know rookie mistake) but i kept thinking it might be a PiP issue.
I'll find out soon enough ;)

Edit: The retail bluray wont play in Power DVD 7.3 though. it keeps on hicupping. Goes to a static menu, then plays the red warning screen in a continous loop. I wonder if my BD is botched :S

[GaPony]

Software players aren't the best judge, and you're using an older version of PowerDVD to boot. If it plays fine on your standalone player, it should play correctly on your software player. Of course playing and copying are two different things.

[setarip_old]

@Kakashi SenseiI think the AnyDVD HD rip went bad somewhereCreate an .ISO image file of the AnyDVD rip, mount it and see if it behaves any differently than the original BluRay disc...

BTW - Does the PIP work when you play the orginal BluRay disc?

Does it work if you play the mounted .ISO image?

[Kakashi Sensei]

@Kakashi SenseiCreate an .ISO image file of the AnyDVD rip, mount it and see if it behaves any differently than the original BluRay disc...

BTW - Does the PIP work when you play the orginal BluRay disc?

Does it work if you play the mounted .ISO image?

The orignal BD plays fine in the PS3. Not in Power DVD. PiP works fine in the PS3.
I'll try the ISO tomorrow. Thanks for the trouble shooting Tips. It could just be that i have an old ver of PowerDVD b/c the OEM one i have for my Burner wont play anything at all with a virtual drive enabled. :)

[Jake802]

Finally got some BluRay Discs and a chance to play around with some BluRay's.Making backups of the X-Men Movies used 0.25.01.Plays beautiful on my LG Player,I even lost the lil' blue spikey type thing that i really thought was my BluRay Player.Going to try out the newest version on the last X-Men Movie.Doing a full disc and then a movie only as well. Let everyone know when I am done. Thanks again for a great program!

[setarip_old]

@Kakashi Senseimy Burner wont play anything at all with a virtual drive enabledI am using PowerDVD v.7.3 (intentionally with NO updates) and have no such trouble using and playing .ISO image files mounted via "Virtual Clone Drive" (freeware)...

[Chiamos]

@Kakashi SenseiI am using PowerDVD v.7.3 (intentionally with NO updates) and have no such trouble using and playing .ISO image files mounted via "Virtual Clone Drive" (freeware)...

About the same here as commented by setarip_old. PowerDVD v.7.3, Pioneer BD-RW BDR-203 Burner and the latest version 5.4.3.2 of "Virtual Clone Drive" perform great together.

[Furiousflea]

Just burnt "The Matrix" to BD-R...

Everything works as in PiP....

EXCEPT the audio for the PiP track, it isn't selectable by cycling through audio tracks either. When you turn on PiP the audio track should change to the AC3+ one but it just switches back to TrueHD no matter what you have it on before selecting PiP.

...Still, progress from before, no freezing or stuttering as there was with the previous release :)

(The new sizing is pretty darn accurate, I selected 24000 as output size and got 22.9GB for The Matrix and 22.3GB for TDTESS)

EDIT...

Just tested "The Day The Earth Stood Still (2009)"....

Same problem as before, picture freezes at PiP points

(BDRB 0.25.02\Sony BDP-S550\Untouched source)

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
I am currently trying a 1-pass movie-only backup on BD5 target.
The crf prediction seems to go on and on ..... here the sequence:
- [10:54:27] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 26.16 8.31 13.89 19.04 21.09 19.53 20.86 19.81 20.74 19.95 20.65 20.00 20.60 20.04 20.59 20.06 20.58 20.08 20.56 20.09 20.55 20.10 ..... and still running.

Edit: I sent you a PM

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
I am currently trying a 1-pass movie-only backup on BD5 target.
The crf prediction seems to go on and on ..... here the sequence:
- [10:54:27] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 26.16 8.31 13.89 19.04 21.09 19.53 20.86 19.81 20.74 19.95 20.65 20.00 20.60 20.04 20.59 20.06 20.58 20.08 20.56 20.09 20.55 20.10 ..... and still running.

Edit: I sent you a PM Are you sure it's actually encoding? I look at these numbers and it is incrementing the bottom by .01 and decrementing the top by .01. That just doesn't seem possible. What movie are you doing?

[Sharc]

Yes, I am sure it's encoding. crf prediction finally settled at 20.33, then the real encoding started as expected.
Movie is DOUBT, Region B.

[jdobbs]

Is it an exceptionally small segment?

I'm using a modified version of this formula (from one of the posts):

nextCRF = (-6 * (targetsize - ssize) / ssize) + CRF

but my tests showed that I could reduce the number of interations because larger CRF values needed a bigger adjustment and smaller CRFs needed less. So I came up with this:

sScale = 6.8 - ((CRF - 16) * 10 / 100) I keep the 10 and 100 distinct just for clarity)
nextCRF = (-(sScale) * (targetsize - ssize) / ssize) + CRF

That way the "6" would be replaced by "5.4" on a crf of 30, and by a "6.7" for a CRF of 17. It's probably too conservative, but seemed to improve the result on my testing.

I also added code that limits nextCRF to a value that is somewhere between the HIGH and LOW of previously selected values (to prevent an endless loop).

I had also tried doing a simple binary search where:

nextCRF = (highCRF + lowCRF) / 2

But the average number of steps was very high because the size results of CRFs aren't linear.

[Sharc]

Hmmm... I will think about your prediction algorithm. But please have a look at my Excel (by email) as well and the algorithm there (based on well known Newton-Raphson principle), and check the PM I sent with some comparison. Looks as my method converges faster in all cases that I have tested.

And no, the segment is not small at all. I just re-ripped the disk, re-booted and did everything from scratch again. The situation is exactly reproducible.
I have 720 resize enabled, I don't think that this is an issue though.
Are you using a special patch version of x264, like for AVAQ? I imagine that this could bring along some undesired behaviour.
Strange .....

[jdobbs]

I'm looking at your spreadsheet right now. I don't think I understand it yet -- so bear with me. :)

I'm using the standard X264 32 bit version from http://www.x264.nl. (r1183)

[Kakashi Sensei]

@Kakashi SenseiI am using PowerDVD v.7.3 (intentionally with NO updates) and have no such trouble using and playing .ISO image files mounted via "Virtual Clone Drive" (freeware)...

I think you misread what i wrote. I use PowerDVD 7.3 B/C the OEM PDVD8 will not work when i have virtual drives on my PC.

[drmih]

Just burnt "The Matrix" to BD-R...

Everything works as in PiP....

EXCEPT the audio for the PiP track, it isn't selectable by cycling through audio tracks either. When you turn on PiP the audio track should change to the AC3+ one but it just switches back to TrueHD no matter what you have it on before selecting PiP.

...Still, progress from before, no freezing or stuttering as there was with the previous release :)

(The new sizing is pretty darn accurate, I selected 24000 as output size and got 22.9GB for The Matrix and 22.3GB for TDTESS)

EDIT...

Just tested "The Day The Earth Stood Still (2009)"....

Same problem as before, picture freezes at PiP points

(BDRB 0.25.02\Sony BDP-S550\Untouched source)

I have just done Madagascar 2 (to bd-9) and there is still the problem with the audio missing on the main movie and no reponse from the 'audio' button on the Sony 550 - I can't trigger the PiP. On a pc using TMT3 - here the default audio is a mismatch of the soundtrack and the commentary and at 192kbp - weird and echoey. When PiP is selected the window appears but there is no sound at all.
It can't be just me!

[jdobbs]

I have just done Madagascar 2 (to bd-9) and there is still the problem with the audio missing on the main movie and no reponse from the 'audio' button on the Sony 550 - I can't trigger the PiP. On a pc using TMT3 - here the default audio is a mismatch of the soundtrack and the commentary and at 192kbp - weird and echoey. When PiP is selected the window appears but there is no sound at all.
It can't be just me! No. It's not just you. I now stand corrected. I must have tested this on a BD-25 previously. The BD-9 version of Frost/Nixon I did last night has no audio in the main movie. I'll look at it -- but I'm not sure there is anything I can do. Since the exact same output works on a BD-25 -- it is an indicator that the limit is in the player, not BD-RB. Probably the best I can do is disable PiP on BD-5/9 -- but I'll keep looking at it.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Using v.0.25.02, I just completed an absolutely beautiful looking BD9, movie-only, "high" quality, version of "Seabiscuit" (running time 2:20:26), with 4 audiostreams.

The resultant BluRay "package" came in at 7.47Gb, or approximately 94% of capacity. Congratulations, as it looks like your new algorithm(s) is/are on the right track;>}

One minor point - At the very end of creating the BluRay "package" in the "Work" folder, the following ( apparently harmless) error message was generated:BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2904 [03:28:58] Correct EP Data () 00009 2904. Clicking on "OK" resulted in no further processing, as all files in the BluRay "package" had already been completed.

[drmih]

No. I don't believe its you, I believe it's your player. I don't think there is anything I can do about it. Probably about the best I could do is remove the PiP completely (including the MPLD references). What happens if you set PROCESS_SECONDARY=0?

I know it's the player but I just can't understand why it should be different to yours and others unless the UK ones have slightly different firmware. As people have said it's not a big issue as I can simply do them to bd-25. However, the problem with Madagascar 2 is a bug as it messes up on TMT3 as well. I'm guessing that as I have tried with versions since pretty much the beginning of your developement with bd-rb that the early ones would have ignored it anyway.

[jdobbs]

I know it's the player but I just can't understand why it should be different to yours and others unless the UK ones have slightly different firmware. As people have said it's not a big issue as I can simply do them to bd-25. However, the problem with Madagascar 2 is a bug as it messes up on TMT3 as well. I'm guessing that as I have tried with versions since pretty much the beginning of your developement with bd-rb that the early ones would have ignored it anyway. Reread my edited post. I hadn't yet tested my Frost/Nixon disc from last night when I responded.

[Jake802]

Hello, Just tried to do a movie only encode bd25 using custom setting on new version of BD got the following error msg:

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[03:29:42] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BD_VIDEO
- Input BD size: 29.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:47.477]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[03:29:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:29:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [03:44:41] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 1)
[12:23:40]PHASE ONE complete
[12:23:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:23:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [12:36:41] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[17:54:55] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:54:55]JOB: BD_VIDEO finished.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Jake

[Kakashi Sensei]

Hello, Just tried to do a movie only encode bd25 using custom setting on new version of BD got the following error msg:

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[03:29:42] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BD_VIDEO
- Input BD size: 29.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:47.477]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[03:29:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:29:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [03:44:41] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 1)
[12:23:40]PHASE ONE complete
[12:23:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:23:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [12:36:41] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[17:54:55] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:54:55]JOB: BD_VIDEO finished.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Jake

Looks like you got the same issue Seta_Rip got a few posts above. According to his account it didn't affect the outcome of the encode. But i guess he would be better to answer that.

KS

[setarip_old]

@Jake802CorrectEPData() 00009 2904Have you played back the created BluRay "package"? I believe you'll find it to be okay...

As to what causes that error message, I guess we'll have to wait and hear from "jdobbs" ;>}