BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Furiousflea]

@kanerulz69
Go the Mediainfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/) way ;)
Please just give us the resolution (i.e. 1080p or 720p) and bitrate.
Keep in mind that High-Speed is meant to be used with One-pass and BD-25.

@jdobbs
Some logs encoding Black Hawk Down, region B, movie only, PCM audio

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[19.59.39] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19.59.39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19.59.39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20.38.08] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 5,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 22,09 for encode.
[23.53.00]PHASE ONE complete
[23.53.00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23.53.00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00.11.44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00.11.44]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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[12.30.27] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[12.30.27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12.30.27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [13.20.35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 10,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 21,97 for encode.
[13.56.21]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
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[14.39.03] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[14.39.07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14.39.07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15.24.40] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 20,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 23,38 for encode.
[19.07.05]PHASE ONE complete
[19.07.05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19.07.05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[19.29.20] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[19.29.20]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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[19.48.19] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19.48.19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19.48.19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20.35.14] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 40,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 23,47 for encode.
[00.42.26]PHASE ONE complete
[00.42.27]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00.42.27] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[01.01.56] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[01.01.56]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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My understanding is that 20% sample should be the best option. I'll test Blade Runner (final cut) ASAP.

What use are these logs without getting a final output size? What was it, for each sample size. Thanx :)

[apophis906]

I think I might have found a bug. It is only with extras that are 480 and 4:3. When they are played back in my PS3 they are streched out to 16:9. I have done this on two different computers and get the same results. I tried redoing them by copying the lastcmd file and changing the SAR from 8:9 to 10:11. When doing that they stay 4:3 when played back on the PS3. Can someone else that has a PS3 check and see if they have 4:3 extras being stretched to 16:9.

[daberti]

What use are these logs without getting a final output size? What was it, for each sample size. Thanx :)

Destination meant was BD-25. Output achieved was waving between 17.7GB (10% sampling) and 17.9GB (40% sampling).

[jdobbs]

Basically any Universal title with PiP and probably others which are done to bd-9 full disc (the files that don't work on on a bd-9 are fine if coped to a bd-25) - some of the ones I've actually done:

Mummy series
Bourne series
day the earth (new)
changeling
frost nixon
twilight
wanted
madagascar 2

I'm hoping that when you release the version with PiP audio that that might nail the issue with those with suitable audio streams. You're obviously doing something differently than me -- because I've done both "Frost/Nixon" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" many times -- they are two of my PiP test discs -- and they work fine for me on both of my Sony players.

Are you preprocessing at all? Any editing or tweaking? What are you using to rip the discs?

[Furiousflea]

You're obviously doing something differently than me -- because I've done both "Frost/Nixon" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" many times -- they are two of my PiP test discs -- and they work fine for me on both of my Sony players.

Are you preprocessing at all? Any editing or tweaking? What are you using to rip the discs?

Are you burning to DVD9 though ;)

This problem has been known since way back hasn't it(?) Did you ever find an actual solution to this as I don't think the problem was ever tackled. It got bought up a few times but then conversation always moved on to something else.

I haven't tried DVD9 backups for any Universal titles since I got a BD writer but before that I did experience this exact problem (silence with no audio\subs selectable on BD9 backups) for "The Matrix".

FTR that was with no tweaking\pre processing. I even mentioned this in the list of players that support BDRB etc a few months ago. Unless something has changed since then and it should now be working?

[Furiousflea]

Destination meant was BD-25. Output achieved was waving between 17.7GB (10% sampling) and 17.9GB (40% sampling).

Cheers dude, interesting results. Looks like we should be able to get some pretty accurate results then, no? :)

[Capsbackup]

This problem has been known since way back hasn't it(?) Did you ever find an actual solution to this as I don't think the problem was ever tackled. It got bought up a few times but then conversation always moved on to something else.

I too experienced this issue many months back at BD-RB intro, when I was testing full backups to BD-5, usually DVD+RW, but I just figured it to be a limitation of AVCHD. I have only had success with a few full movie backups to BD-5. ( I was not after quality for the test, just success before trying BD-9 )
I now do full movie backups to BD-RE and BD-R, and they are almost always perfect.
I do movie only backups to BD-5, and have never had a failure yet! :D

[Mediogre]

You're obviously doing something differently than me -- because I've done both "Frost/Nixon" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still" many times -- they are two of my PiP test discs -- and they work fine for me on both of my Sony players.

Are you preprocessing at all? Any editing or tweaking? What are you using to rip the discs?

I am having the same problem as drmih. No pre-processing for me. I have found that the ones I have tried do play fine in Sony players but do not ( main movie does not start) in PowerDVD8 and Panasonic players.

[Furiousflea]

I am having the same problem as drmih. No pre-processing for me. I have found that the ones I have tried do play fine in Sony players but do not ( main movie does not start) in PowerDVD8 and Panasonic players.

That's not the same issue at all.

Completely different, he's talking about Universal titles ONLY where the video DOES play but there is no audio\subtitles and pressing anything on the remote won't let you switch them on. It's as if they aren't there.

Your issue is a common one for panasonic players where to fix it you have to turn OFF 24p playback on the player. I can't comment on the PowerDVD situation since I experience a similar quirk where a fair few discs just come up with a black screen. But I have noticed in the past that these discs are often fixed by downloading the latest PowerDVD update for your version.

[Furiousflea]

I too experienced this issue many months back at BD-RB intro, when I was testing full backups to BD-5, usually DVD+RW, but I just figured it to be a limitation of AVCHD. I have only had success with a few full movie backups to BD-5. ( I was not after quality for the test, just success before trying BD-9 )
I now do full movie backups to BD-RE and BD-R, and they are almost always perfect.
I do movie only backups to BD-5, and have never had a failure yet! :D

Could well be a limitation of AVCHD since BD5\BD9 backups are detected as such. But then BD-Live still works and other discs don't have problems and it's not like the PiP track is being displayed. Would be nice to know the actual reason...Personlly I'm not too fussed but hey :)

[jdobbs]

Are you burning to DVD9 though ;)

This problem has been known since way back hasn't it(?) Did you ever find an actual solution to this as I don't think the problem was ever tackled. It got bought up a few times but then conversation always moved on to something else.

I haven't tried DVD9 backups for any Universal titles since I got a BD writer but before that I did experience this exact problem (silence with no audio\subs selectable on BD9 backups) for "The Matrix".

FTR that was with no tweaking\pre processing. I even mentioned this in the list of players that support BDRB etc a few months ago. Unless something has changed since then and it should now be working? First -- I'm not even convinced yet that it "is" a problem yet. Especially with the PiP processing in the state of flux that it's in. Most of my backups are DVD-9. But I've also tested it on BD-25. You say it's "has been known since way back" -- but I can only remember one person who has reported it (albeit several times). I have two different Sony models -- and it never occurs. So I have to ask whether there is some "tinkering" going on.

Have you experienced it?

I did find some things in the STN tables that may be associated with this -- so maybe the new version (see below) will have an effect. Don't know, though, since it works okay for me either way.

[jdobbs]

I am having the same problem as drmih. No pre-processing for me. I have found that the ones I have tried do play fine in Sony players but do not ( main movie does not start) in PowerDVD8 and Panasonic players. But he's reporting the exact opposite -- that it doesn't work in Sony players. So what you're saying supports my point.

[jdobbs]

I've posted a new version for download on the first post of this thread. Lots of changes. The one-pass should be pretty accurate now (I finally gave up on the .stats approach, it was just too random, and borrowed some code from DVD Rebuilder). Here is a summary of the changes for this version:- Replaced the prediction algorithm for one-pass
encoding. It now does prediction passes until it
finds the correct CRF. This should be much more
accurate - but please remember it may take
slightly more time and is still experimental.
Note: On very small sources it can be faster to
do a first pass than to predict CRF. When BD-RB's
analysis indicates this to be the case, a two-pass
encode will be done, even when one-pass mode is
selected.
- Corrected issues found in update of MPLS STN
tables for secondary audio and video streams.
- Made changes to secondary audio processing that
should make DD+ PiP tracks start working. Note:
you must have "PROCESS_SECONDARY=1" set in INI.
- Updated X264 to r1183, this new version includes
speed improvements and other fixes/enhancements.
- Made changes to all X264 command lines to make
BD-RB compatible with new defaults starting in
X264 r1179. This means that BD-RB now requires
X264 version r1179 or higher.
- Added "--ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1" to the
encoding command line to lessen "pulsing" on
sources that are very highly compressed.
- Added code to recognize and workaround encoding
issues on very small sources.
- Changed "Quick Encode for Extras" so it is ON by
default. Most encode will benefit with faster
completion.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.Just a note on the prediction. I'm currently doing a 1% sample. It seems to work well, but if you are willing to sacrifice a little time, you can do a 2% sample and likely will get more accurate. If the 1% doesn't work out, I will change the default in the next release. You can change it now, if you're so inclined, by adding the following to the [Options] area of the INI (config):

23.976fps sources (default is 4800/48):

SAMPLE_GROUP=4800
SAMPLE_SIZE=96

25fps sources (default is 5000/50):

SAMPLE_GROUP=5000
SAMPLE_SIZE=100

29.97fps sources (default is 6000/60):

SAMPLE_GROUP=6000
SAMPLE_SIZE=120

You can also tweak the sizing with:

CRF_ADJUST=n.n

Legal values are .1 through 2.0, the default is .96. Very low values will probably crash. It adjusts the target size for CRF, the .96 is to allow 4% for inaccuracy. It's likely that .97 or .98 would probably be ok for a 2% sample. If you oversize because you've changed this value, though -- don't be surprised, and don't complain to me!

I'm also tweaking the algorithm that determines the number of prediction passes, so you may see some improvements there in upcoming versions.

[drmih]

First -- I'm not even convinced yet that it "is" a problem yet. Especially with the PiP processing in the state of flux that it's in. Most of my backups are DVD-9. But I've also tested it on BD-25. You say it's "has been known since way back" -- but I can only remember one person who has reported it (albeit several times). I have two different Sony models -- and it never occurs. So I have to ask whether there is some "tinkering" going on.

Have you experienced it?

I did find some things in the STN tables that may be associated with this -- so maybe the new version (see below) will have an effect. Don't know, though, since it works okay for me either way.

No tinkering and Anydvd to rip. The one thing which I have mentioned is that the same files encoded to bd-9 size on the Pc HDD will give this problem on a dvd-dl but work fine on a bd-rw. The one thing I haven't tried is different types of blank media.

[jdobbs]

Try the latest. Meanwhile I'll do Frost/Nixon again...

[Sharc]

I've posted a new version for download on the first post of this thread. Lots of changes. The one-pass should be pretty accurate now ........ I'm also tweaking the algorithm that determines the number of prediction passes, so you may see some improvements there in upcoming versions.
Good news .... Thanks :)

[chudm]

no bd-25 high speed option? should i select good quality (Faster)? btw thx man :D i should test again kung fu panda :P, and check if it will play the main movie fine on the panasonic bd-30

[jdobbs]

no bd-25 high speed option? should i select good quality (Faster)? btw thx man :D i should test again kung fu panda :P, and check if it will play the main movie fine on the panasonic bd-30 It's still there. You have to select BD-25 for it to show in the menu (same as the last version).

[Capsbackup]

Just for a point of reference, I reported this way back at the beginning. Also reported after testing the same disc with the Sony S301 that jdobbs has that it played perfectly. I still have the DVD-R disc, and I have tested it after the last few firmware updates for my BX1 to see if it may work, but still no luck. :rolleyes:


Well I just finished backing up The Scorpion King, NTSC, Full backup, 4.09GB and burned to DVD+RW. Not having much success here and I am not sure what the problem is. Let me clarify - the audio for the main movie just does not play when burned to a DVD+RW, as with previous attempts. The main menu only plays for about 33 seconds before pausing, and when it continues, there is only audio while the video remains a still image at the pause point. I can select the menu buttons for the disc, so all is still functioning. However, after selecting play, the movie starts and the video looks great, just no audio is heard. Also, as with other backup tests reported, I cannot select subtitles from the remote, no pop up or available subtitles are displayed. Same with audio button, no pop up to display other available tracks.
So I burn the same files to a BD-RE disc, and now the audio and subtitles play fine, with the ability to change both audio and subtitle tracks from the remote during playback of the movie.( There is only the 1 eng. AC3 audio file that plays of course, but the button on the remote brings up the options as if there were other tracks available). The menu video still does its pause at the same time interval as the DVD+RW. However, this is not a big concern since I usually press play before the menu loop anyway, but I just wanted to report my findings.
I only have the Sony BDP-BX1 to test with, so I don't know if it is player related or if it could be a BD-RB bug. I use only the default settings, and ImgBurn.
I have made numerous movie only backups, not with BD-RB, and never had a problem.BDP-BX1 plays back movie only perfectly. I hope these tests I have reported can help track down if there is a bug, or if I need to do or change something, I am open to any and all suggestions. I would like to be able to keep the menus and burn to DVD-R or DVD+R DL just like all of those succesful reports I have read!

Maybe a new test with this new release BD-RBV02502 would also be helpful. However, I seem quite content for BD-25 full movie backups, now that the BD media is at a more acceptable price, and BD-5 or BD-9 for movie only backups.
I'm just happy with all these options!!
Thanks jdobbs. :)

[chudm]

It's still there. You have to select BD-25 for it to show in the menu (same as the last version).

ohhh i see sorry my bad :thanks:

[jdobbs]

Just for a point of reference, I reported this way back at the beginning. Also reported after testing the same disc with the Sony S301 that jdobbs has that it played perfectly. I still have the DVD-R disc, and I have tested it after the last few firmware updates for my BX1 to see if it may work, but still no luck. :rolleyes:




Maybe a new test with this new release BD-RBV02502 would also be helpful. However, I seem quite content for BD-25 full movie backups, now that the BD media is at a more acceptable price, and BD-5 or BD-9 for movie only backups.
I'm just happy with all these options!!
Thanks jdobbs. :) It also plays correctly on the Sony BDP-S360. I'm hoping it has something to do with the way I was updating the MPLS tables and it will go away. My fear (and the probability), though, is that it is just a limitation on certain players related to PiP and DVD-5/9 discs. All the asking for "jdobbs to look at it" in the world isn't going to help in that scenario, because only Sony can fix it.

[Capsbackup]

It also plays correctly on the Sony BDP-S360. I'm hoping it has something to do with the way I was updating the MPLS tables and it will go away. My fear (and the probability), though, is that it is just a limitation on certain players related to PiP and DVD-5/9 discs. All the asking for "jdobbs to look at it" in the world isn't going to help in that scenario, because only Sony can fix it.

I do agree, and am glad I purchased a Sony. I can only guess how much time you spend trying to chase down bugs that are reported, that don't appear on Sony players. :p

[Furiousflea]

First -- I'm not even convinced yet that it "is" a problem yet. Especially with the PiP processing in the state of flux that it's in. Most of my backups are DVD-9. But I've also tested it on BD-25. You say it's "has been known since way back" -- but I can only remember one person who has reported it (albeit several times). I have two different Sony models -- and it never occurs. So I have to ask whether there is some "tinkering" going on.

Have you experienced it?

I did find some things in the STN tables that may be associated with this -- so maybe the new version (see below) will have an effect. Don't know, though, since it works okay for me either way.

Thanx for the new version :)

As said already, I have experienced it with "The Matrix" and discussed it here a while ago. This is with zero fiddling with the source. Straight rip with AnyDVD HD -> loaded in BDRB. Anyways I do agree that it is most likely a limitation of the player and personally it doesn't concern me. Was just attempting to clarify the other members postition as I have also experienced what he was talking about.

Regardless, not an issue for me since I don't use BD5\9 for anything other than animation with little extras.

Keep up the good work, will be sure to make another donation in the coming week or two.

[Furiousflea]

Just doing "The Matrix" now target BD25 will report back with results on PiP functionality on my S550 in a couple of hours :)

[daberti]

Cheers dude, interesting results. Looks like we should be able to get some pretty accurate results then, no? :)

Everything can always be improved. I wish to test my own Blade Runner EU (Final Cut) too, though. As I previously said I've the suspect that 20% analyzing should be the best compromise.

But...wait a while: new BD-RB version released.
My thoughts were made under 0.25.1 .

[Kakashi Sensei]

Cool new version to try out. Gonna try this on the Matrix and see if I get the stuttering picture issue i had with the previous ver.

But i'm starting to think its my source not BD-RB

[setarip_old]

@Kakashi Sensei

Hi!But i'm starting to think its my source not BD-RBHaven't you simply tried playing your original commercial BluRay disc on your pc and standalone(s) and/or PS3, to determine whether it's problematic?

[Kakashi Sensei]

@Kakashi Sensei

Hi!Haven't you simply tried playing your original commercial BluRay disc on your pc and standalone(s) and/or PS3, to determine whether it's problematic?

the Bluray plays fine but I think the AnyDVD HD rip went bad somewhere, i just didn't rerip to the PC yet. Should've done that first (i know rookie mistake) but i kept thinking it might be a PiP issue.
I'll find out soon enough ;)

Edit: The retail bluray wont play in Power DVD 7.3 though. it keeps on hicupping. Goes to a static menu, then plays the red warning screen in a continous loop. I wonder if my BD is botched :S

[GaPony]

Software players aren't the best judge, and you're using an older version of PowerDVD to boot. If it plays fine on your standalone player, it should play correctly on your software player. Of course playing and copying are two different things.

[setarip_old]

@Kakashi SenseiI think the AnyDVD HD rip went bad somewhereCreate an .ISO image file of the AnyDVD rip, mount it and see if it behaves any differently than the original BluRay disc...

BTW - Does the PIP work when you play the orginal BluRay disc?

Does it work if you play the mounted .ISO image?

[Kakashi Sensei]

@Kakashi SenseiCreate an .ISO image file of the AnyDVD rip, mount it and see if it behaves any differently than the original BluRay disc...

BTW - Does the PIP work when you play the orginal BluRay disc?

Does it work if you play the mounted .ISO image?

The orignal BD plays fine in the PS3. Not in Power DVD. PiP works fine in the PS3.
I'll try the ISO tomorrow. Thanks for the trouble shooting Tips. It could just be that i have an old ver of PowerDVD b/c the OEM one i have for my Burner wont play anything at all with a virtual drive enabled. :)

[Jake802]

Finally got some BluRay Discs and a chance to play around with some BluRay's.Making backups of the X-Men Movies used 0.25.01.Plays beautiful on my LG Player,I even lost the lil' blue spikey type thing that i really thought was my BluRay Player.Going to try out the newest version on the last X-Men Movie.Doing a full disc and then a movie only as well. Let everyone know when I am done. Thanks again for a great program!

[setarip_old]

@Kakashi Senseimy Burner wont play anything at all with a virtual drive enabledI am using PowerDVD v.7.3 (intentionally with NO updates) and have no such trouble using and playing .ISO image files mounted via "Virtual Clone Drive" (freeware)...

[Chiamos]

@Kakashi SenseiI am using PowerDVD v.7.3 (intentionally with NO updates) and have no such trouble using and playing .ISO image files mounted via "Virtual Clone Drive" (freeware)...

About the same here as commented by setarip_old. PowerDVD v.7.3, Pioneer BD-RW BDR-203 Burner and the latest version 5.4.3.2 of "Virtual Clone Drive" perform great together.

[Furiousflea]

Just burnt "The Matrix" to BD-R...

Everything works as in PiP....

EXCEPT the audio for the PiP track, it isn't selectable by cycling through audio tracks either. When you turn on PiP the audio track should change to the AC3+ one but it just switches back to TrueHD no matter what you have it on before selecting PiP.

...Still, progress from before, no freezing or stuttering as there was with the previous release :)

(The new sizing is pretty darn accurate, I selected 24000 as output size and got 22.9GB for The Matrix and 22.3GB for TDTESS)

EDIT...

Just tested "The Day The Earth Stood Still (2009)"....

Same problem as before, picture freezes at PiP points

(BDRB 0.25.02\Sony BDP-S550\Untouched source)

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
I am currently trying a 1-pass movie-only backup on BD5 target.
The crf prediction seems to go on and on ..... here the sequence:
- [10:54:27] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 26.16 8.31 13.89 19.04 21.09 19.53 20.86 19.81 20.74 19.95 20.65 20.00 20.60 20.04 20.59 20.06 20.58 20.08 20.56 20.09 20.55 20.10 ..... and still running.

Edit: I sent you a PM

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
I am currently trying a 1-pass movie-only backup on BD5 target.
The crf prediction seems to go on and on ..... here the sequence:
- [10:54:27] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 26.16 8.31 13.89 19.04 21.09 19.53 20.86 19.81 20.74 19.95 20.65 20.00 20.60 20.04 20.59 20.06 20.58 20.08 20.56 20.09 20.55 20.10 ..... and still running.

Edit: I sent you a PM Are you sure it's actually encoding? I look at these numbers and it is incrementing the bottom by .01 and decrementing the top by .01. That just doesn't seem possible. What movie are you doing?

[Sharc]

Yes, I am sure it's encoding. crf prediction finally settled at 20.33, then the real encoding started as expected.
Movie is DOUBT, Region B.

[jdobbs]

Is it an exceptionally small segment?

I'm using a modified version of this formula (from one of the posts):

nextCRF = (-6 * (targetsize - ssize) / ssize) + CRF

but my tests showed that I could reduce the number of interations because larger CRF values needed a bigger adjustment and smaller CRFs needed less. So I came up with this:

sScale = 6.8 - ((CRF - 16) * 10 / 100) I keep the 10 and 100 distinct just for clarity)
nextCRF = (-(sScale) * (targetsize - ssize) / ssize) + CRF

That way the "6" would be replaced by "5.4" on a crf of 30, and by a "6.7" for a CRF of 17. It's probably too conservative, but seemed to improve the result on my testing.

I also added code that limits nextCRF to a value that is somewhere between the HIGH and LOW of previously selected values (to prevent an endless loop).

I had also tried doing a simple binary search where:

nextCRF = (highCRF + lowCRF) / 2

But the average number of steps was very high because the size results of CRFs aren't linear.

[Sharc]

Hmmm... I will think about your prediction algorithm. But please have a look at my Excel (by email) as well and the algorithm there (based on well known Newton-Raphson principle), and check the PM I sent with some comparison. Looks as my method converges faster in all cases that I have tested.

And no, the segment is not small at all. I just re-ripped the disk, re-booted and did everything from scratch again. The situation is exactly reproducible.
I have 720 resize enabled, I don't think that this is an issue though.
Are you using a special patch version of x264, like for AVAQ? I imagine that this could bring along some undesired behaviour.
Strange .....

[jdobbs]

I'm looking at your spreadsheet right now. I don't think I understand it yet -- so bear with me. :)

I'm using the standard X264 32 bit version from http://www.x264.nl. (r1183)

[Kakashi Sensei]

@Kakashi SenseiI am using PowerDVD v.7.3 (intentionally with NO updates) and have no such trouble using and playing .ISO image files mounted via "Virtual Clone Drive" (freeware)...

I think you misread what i wrote. I use PowerDVD 7.3 B/C the OEM PDVD8 will not work when i have virtual drives on my PC.

[drmih]

Just burnt "The Matrix" to BD-R...

Everything works as in PiP....

EXCEPT the audio for the PiP track, it isn't selectable by cycling through audio tracks either. When you turn on PiP the audio track should change to the AC3+ one but it just switches back to TrueHD no matter what you have it on before selecting PiP.

...Still, progress from before, no freezing or stuttering as there was with the previous release :)

(The new sizing is pretty darn accurate, I selected 24000 as output size and got 22.9GB for The Matrix and 22.3GB for TDTESS)

EDIT...

Just tested "The Day The Earth Stood Still (2009)"....

Same problem as before, picture freezes at PiP points

(BDRB 0.25.02\Sony BDP-S550\Untouched source)

I have just done Madagascar 2 (to bd-9) and there is still the problem with the audio missing on the main movie and no reponse from the 'audio' button on the Sony 550 - I can't trigger the PiP. On a pc using TMT3 - here the default audio is a mismatch of the soundtrack and the commentary and at 192kbp - weird and echoey. When PiP is selected the window appears but there is no sound at all.
It can't be just me!

[jdobbs]

I have just done Madagascar 2 (to bd-9) and there is still the problem with the audio missing on the main movie and no reponse from the 'audio' button on the Sony 550 - I can't trigger the PiP. On a pc using TMT3 - here the default audio is a mismatch of the soundtrack and the commentary and at 192kbp - weird and echoey. When PiP is selected the window appears but there is no sound at all.
It can't be just me! No. It's not just you. I now stand corrected. I must have tested this on a BD-25 previously. The BD-9 version of Frost/Nixon I did last night has no audio in the main movie. I'll look at it -- but I'm not sure there is anything I can do. Since the exact same output works on a BD-25 -- it is an indicator that the limit is in the player, not BD-RB. Probably the best I can do is disable PiP on BD-5/9 -- but I'll keep looking at it.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Using v.0.25.02, I just completed an absolutely beautiful looking BD9, movie-only, "high" quality, version of "Seabiscuit" (running time 2:20:26), with 4 audiostreams.

The resultant BluRay "package" came in at 7.47Gb, or approximately 94% of capacity. Congratulations, as it looks like your new algorithm(s) is/are on the right track;>}

One minor point - At the very end of creating the BluRay "package" in the "Work" folder, the following ( apparently harmless) error message was generated:BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2904 [03:28:58] Correct EP Data () 00009 2904. Clicking on "OK" resulted in no further processing, as all files in the BluRay "package" had already been completed.

[drmih]

No. I don't believe its you, I believe it's your player. I don't think there is anything I can do about it. Probably about the best I could do is remove the PiP completely (including the MPLD references). What happens if you set PROCESS_SECONDARY=0?

I know it's the player but I just can't understand why it should be different to yours and others unless the UK ones have slightly different firmware. As people have said it's not a big issue as I can simply do them to bd-25. However, the problem with Madagascar 2 is a bug as it messes up on TMT3 as well. I'm guessing that as I have tried with versions since pretty much the beginning of your developement with bd-rb that the early ones would have ignored it anyway.

[jdobbs]

I know it's the player but I just can't understand why it should be different to yours and others unless the UK ones have slightly different firmware. As people have said it's not a big issue as I can simply do them to bd-25. However, the problem with Madagascar 2 is a bug as it messes up on TMT3 as well. I'm guessing that as I have tried with versions since pretty much the beginning of your developement with bd-rb that the early ones would have ignored it anyway. Reread my edited post. I hadn't yet tested my Frost/Nixon disc from last night when I responded.

[Jake802]

Hello, Just tried to do a movie only encode bd25 using custom setting on new version of BD got the following error msg:

-----------------------
[03:29:42] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BD_VIDEO
- Input BD size: 29.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:47.477]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[03:29:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:29:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [03:44:41] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 1)
[12:23:40]PHASE ONE complete
[12:23:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:23:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [12:36:41] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[17:54:55] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:54:55]JOB: BD_VIDEO finished.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Jake

[Kakashi Sensei]

Hello, Just tried to do a movie only encode bd25 using custom setting on new version of BD got the following error msg:

-----------------------
[03:29:42] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BD_VIDEO
- Input BD size: 29.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:47.477]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[03:29:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:29:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [03:44:41] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 1)
[12:23:40]PHASE ONE complete
[12:23:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:23:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [12:36:41] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[17:54:55] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:54:55]JOB: BD_VIDEO finished.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Jake

Looks like you got the same issue Seta_Rip got a few posts above. According to his account it didn't affect the outcome of the encode. But i guess he would be better to answer that.

KS

[setarip_old]

@Jake802CorrectEPData() 00009 2904Have you played back the created BluRay "package"? I believe you'll find it to be okay...

As to what causes that error message, I guess we'll have to wait and hear from "jdobbs" ;>}

[GaPony]

I have just done Madagascar 2 (to bd-9) and there is still the problem with the audio missing on the main movie and no reponse from the 'audio' button on the Sony 550 - I can't trigger the PiP. On a pc using TMT3 - here the default audio is a mismatch of the soundtrack and the commentary and at 192kbp - weird and echoey. When PiP is selected the window appears but there is no sound at all.
It can't be just me!

FWIW, I did that movie months ago in two different ways, both successful.

Full movie to BD25 - default program settings.

Movie only to BD9 - Using "Stricter compliance for AVCHD" enabled and everything else at default.

[ds9delta]

Error With 25.02 Still Trying Cars R0 (Australia)

- [09:44:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (56291 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[10:12:40] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22900
CRF_ENCODING=0
TARGET_SIZE=22900
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\AWAITING BLU-RAY BURN\NEW FOLDER\

Anyone Able To Help Please??? I Don't Even Get This Error! I've Never Heard Of It Before On Any Sort Of Video Encoding! Any Advice, Help, Or Explanation Greatly Appreciated! Cheers:)

[Jake802]

Thanks! Ill try burning it and see what happens!

[Sharc]

I'm looking at your spreadsheet right now. I don't think I understand it yet -- so bear with me. :)


Here my algorithm:

Step 0:
crf_0 = 20 # initial guess
=> Encode a sample. Result is ActualSize_0

Step 1:
crf_1 = crf_0 - 6*(TargetSize - ActualSize_0)/ActualSize_0
=> Encode a sample. Result is ActualSize_1

Step 2: from here onwards (n = 2, 3, 4, .... ) the recursive formula applies:
crf_n = crf_n-1 - (TargetSize - ActualSize_n-1)*(crf_n-1 - crf_n-2)/(ActualSize_n-2 - ActualSize_n-1)
=> Encode sample

.... etc.

We can stop if (TargetSize - ActualSize_n) / TargetSize < 5% (for example).
Normaly this requires very few steps only (2.....4) in my experience.

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi,

I did Seven Pounds with 25.01 1pass to bd-25, way undersized (about 70%)

Now with 25.02 I did Valkyrie, same settings, size is now great (97% of a BD-25)

I now to a high speed 1 pass of a problematic universal title with PiP. Hope it works now with PowerDVD.

Bye

[drmih]

FWIW, I did that movie months ago in two different ways, both successful.

Full movie to BD25 - default program settings.

Movie only to BD9 - Using "Stricter compliance for AVCHD" enabled and everything else at default.

I did as well - this was only to test out the PiP capability in the new version.

[datman]

Hello jdobbs, nice work on all the new features. I especially like the shut off at completion.

I have been getting this same error at the completion of all 3 encodes with 25.02 and it seems to disrupt the automatic shut off. The encode seems to be fine.

[DK]

My first run with 0.25.02 was full movie BD25 of Dances with wolves in fast BD-25 mode.

The result was way OVERsized (more than 40gb final size).
And I got this error message, which has been spken off before at the end of the process.

Now I'm runnning movie only with otherwise identical settings and will report back later on.

[jdobbs]

Error With 25.02 Still Trying Cars R0 (Australia)

- [09:44:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (56291 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[10:12:40] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22900
CRF_ENCODING=0
TARGET_SIZE=22900
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\AWAITING BLU-RAY BURN\NEW FOLDER\

Anyone Able To Help Please??? I Don't Even Get This Error! I've Never Heard Of It Before On Any Sort Of Video Encoding! Any Advice, Help, Or Explanation Greatly Appreciated! Cheers:)

BD-RB is just showing the error that it received from TSMUXER. I've never seen that one either.

[jdobbs]

Hello, Just tried to do a movie only encode bd25 using custom setting on new version of BD got the following error msg:

-----------------------
[03:29:42] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BD_VIDEO
- Input BD size: 29.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:47.477]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[03:29:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:29:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [03:44:41] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 1)
[12:23:40]PHASE ONE complete
[12:23:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:23:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [12:36:41] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[17:54:55] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:54:55]JOB: BD_VIDEO finished.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Jake This is certainly confusing. The 00009 is an indicator of a subscript that is out of range. The 2904 identifies where it happened. But the identifier 2904 has nothing to do with the CorrectEPData() subroutine. :confused:

[jdobbs]

My first run with 0.25.02 was full movie BD25 of Dances with wolves in fast BD-25 mode.

The result was way OVERsized (more than 40gb final size).
And I got this error message, which has been spken off before at the end of the process.

Now I'm runnning movie only with otherwise identical settings and will report back later on. Please post the INI and INF files. Was one-pass (experimental) selected?

[Sn8kbordin]

BD-RB 0.25.02 gives error "BD RB experienced an error 2904 CorrectEPData() 00009 2904" when doing movie only to DVD9, stricker AVCHD checked, when not resizing and when resizing to 720P.

-----------------------
[18:53:27] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLOW
- Input BD size: 23.40 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:03:26.440]
- Target BD size: 8.06 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[18:53:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:53:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [19:02:23] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [23:20:30] Video Encode complete
- [23:20:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:20:30] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:23:17]PHASE ONE complete
[23:23:17]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:23:17] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [23:25:25] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[06:57:37] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[06:57:37]JOB: BLOW finished.
-----------------------
[07:06:43] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLOW
- Input BD size: 23.40 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:03:26.440]
- Target BD size: 8.06 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Encoding cancelled.
-----------------------
[07:13:54] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: SPE_BDLIVE
- Input BD size: 27.40 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:03:05.419]
- Target BD size: 8.07 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
[07:13:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:13:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00262]
- [07:18:04] Collecting video information [00262]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 177,073 frames
- Bitrate: 7,800 Kbs
- [07:18:04] Reencoding: VID_00262, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:23:07] Reencoding: VID_00262, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:10:04] Video Encode complete
- [10:10:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:10:04] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:12:51]PHASE ONE complete
[10:12:51]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:12:51] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [10:14:40] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[10:22:46] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:22:46]JOB: SPE_BDLIVE finished.

[DK]

Movie only resulted in proper size this time but with error on end.

Why does BD-RB produce the strict avchd structure for a BD-25 conversion?

I have ticked this option in the settings but wasnt it in former version that the strict avchd structure only applied when bd-5/9 was chosen?

Here is the log for the oversized full movie bd-25 and the movie only bd-25 conversion:

-----------------------
[21:31:03] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: WOLF
- Input BD size: 43,12 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:23:14.153]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[21:31:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:31:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [21:31:09] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 15)
- [21:32:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [21:46:58] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 15)
- [04:31:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [04:31:19] Reencoding: VID_00007 (3 of 15)
- [04:33:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [04:33:59] Reencoding: VID_00008 (4 of 15)
- [04:36:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [04:36:36] Reencoding: VID_00009 (5 of 15)
- [04:39:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [04:39:56] Reencoding: VID_00010 (6 of 15)
- [04:42:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [04:42:51] Reencoding: VID_00011 (7 of 15)
- [04:46:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [04:46:10] Reencoding: VID_00012 (8 of 15)
- [04:49:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [04:49:38] Reencoding: VID_00013 (9 of 15)
- [04:53:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [04:53:37] Reencoding: VID_00014 (10 of 15)
- [04:57:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [04:57:30] Reencoding: VID_00015 (11 of 15)
- [05:00:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [05:00:28] Reencoding: VID_00016 (12 of 15)
- [05:00:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [05:00:31] Reencoding: VID_00017 (13 of 15)
- [05:00:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [05:00:38] Reencoding: VID_00021 (14 of 15)
- [05:04:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [05:04:23] Reencoding: VID_00022 (15 of 15)
[05:07:46]PHASE ONE complete
[05:07:46]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [05:07:46] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[05:07:51] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.
-----------------------
[06:58:20] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: WOLF
- Input BD size: 40,44 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:56:39.476]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[06:58:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [06:58:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [07:11:08] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 2)
- [12:56:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [12:56:43] Reencoding: VID_00016 (2 of 2)
[12:56:49]PHASE ONE complete
[12:56:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:56:49] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [14:04:21] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[17:16:35] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:16:35]JOB: WOLF finished.


Because I used the same directory I think the INF file was overwritten and this is only the latter version for the movie only bd-25 conversion (with the strict avchd structure):

[Status]
LABEL=WOLF
VERSION=v0.25.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=43425196032
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=43425196032
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55537453376671
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=2
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00006]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=24117234351
RATE=6275
NSIZE=11697641472
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00016]
M2TS_TARGET=13649
RATE=500
AUDIO=
NSIZE=18432
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


Was one-pass (experimental) selected?

I could swear it was NOT but will repeat the conversion.

[Shuttle99]

I have tested 25.02 twice movie only one @two pass dvd 9 and again one pass dvd9 both times gave me the same error ....2904 like the posts above the only difference it said something about correct path ...2904 but both times completed ok even with the error.

[jdobbs]

Yeah, I found it. It was related to the new code I'd added to support secondary audio and affects Movie-Only encodes. It won't hurt anything, and can be ignored, but is annoying. I'll put out a new version with the fix.

[jdobbs]

Just posted a new version, you can download it through the first post of this thread. Changes:
- Updated the prediction algorithm for one-pass
encoding. It should now be slightly more accurate
- Corrected bug that causes the error "00009 2904"
in CorrectEPData() when doing movie-only encodes.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[GaPony]

Don't you mean v.0.25.03 beta? :)

[jwjohnson]

I just did a movie only BD-25 of Harry Potter 5 - The Order of the Phoenix with 25.03. It completed very quickly, but came out way undersized. ImgBurn says the image is only 15.7 GB. It plays ok from the folder with TMT 2.1.6.130, but I don't like the wasted space. The Movie stream was shown to be 29 GB so it should have re-encoded it. Here's the log and I've attached the INI and INF files.

[18:37:58] BD Rebuilder v0.25.03 (beta)
- Source: HP5_PHOENIX
- Input BD size: 28.36 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:18:14.452]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[18:38:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:38:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [19:09:03] Collecting video information [00000]
- [19:09:03] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [19:09:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:11:02] Multiplexing M2TS
[19:19:48]PHASE ONE complete
[19:19:48]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:19:48] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[19:29:23] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[19:29:23]JOB: HP5_PHOENIX finished.


[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=F:\BD-RIPS\HP5_PHOENIX\
WORKING_PATH=F:\BD-RB WORK\


[Status]
LABEL=HP5_PHOENIX
VERSION=v0.25.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30447593472
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30447593472
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.792090449518729
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=10000000000000
PGS=100000000000000000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=24117248000
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=14973511680
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Jake802]

Trying it out on X3 now! Thanks JDobbs!

[jdobbs]

Don't you mean v.0.25.03 beta? :)Uhhh... yes I did. :)

[jdobbs]

I just did a movie only BD-25 of Harry Potter 5 - The Order of the Phoenix with 25.03. It completed very quickly, but came out way undersized. ImgBurn says the image is only 15.7 GB. It plays ok from the folder with TMT 2.1.6.130, but I don't like the wasted space. The Movie stream was shown to be 29 GB so it should have re-encoded it. Here's the log and I've attached the INI and INF files. That's because there was no need to reencode -- the film was small enough to fit as it was. It would REALLY be a waste of space to reencode just to make it bigger at the expense of quality.

[jwjohnson]

Could you send me the .stats file? dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com That's because there was no need to reencode -- the film was small enough to fit as it was. It would REALLY be a waste of space to reencode just to make it bigger at the expense of quality.
Where do I find the .stats file?

[jdobbs]

Where do I find the .stats file? I edited the post after I looked more closely at your LOG. There will be no .stats because there was no encode done.

[Sharc]

Just posted a new version, you can download it through the first post of this thread. Changes:
- Updated the prediction algorithm for one-pass
encoding. It should now be slightly more accurate


Just to report back: It looks much better now.

crf sequence for v0.25.02 (beta)
26.16 8.31 13.89 19.04 21.08 19.56 20.86 19.81 20.75 19.95 20.66 20.01 20.59 20.06 20.57 20.08 20.57 20.09 20.55 20.10 20.33 [20.33]

For v0.25.03 (beta)
26.16 9.34 22.69 20.80 20.49 [20.51]

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs...

Could the freezing\no audio problem with PiP backups on the Sony S550 be releated to that the PiP track is compressed using a different codec to the main feature after processing with BDRB...

Since the PiP track is left as is (VC1) and the main movie which was VC1 is now in MPEG4?

Does the rule apply that you can't mix codecs in an mpls even for PiP tracks apply?

Maybe this could be the problem and some players don't mind but others do? Maybe it would be worth adding the option to compress the PiP track to find out...

Just a thought :)

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs...

Could the freezing\no audio problem with PiP backups on the Sony S550 be releated to that the PiP track is compressed using a different codec to the main feature after processing with BDRB...

Since the PiP track is left as is (VC1) and the main movie which was VC1 is now in MPEG4?

Does the rule apply that you can't mix codecs in an mpls even for PiP tracks apply?

Maybe this could be the problem and some players don't mind but others do? Maybe it would be worth adding the option to compress the PiP track to find out...

Just a thought :)





EDIT





SOLUTION!!!!



Right, the problem seems to be because I had the S550 set to output in "pure" mode. This has the effect of outputting a bit stream for a receiver that can decode TrueHD\DTSMA (which mine can). However it seems there is a limitation in the player that it can't output the AC3+ audio mixed with that "pure" signal - which would make sense having the effect of not hearing the PiP audio (which should be mixed with the main TrueHD audio track - and NOT actually replace it)...

So "The Matrix" works fine now...TrueHD appears in when I press the "info" button on the remote, but I can actually hear the PiP track + the main TrueHD track together - (when I set the output to "mix" in the settings for the S550)


However there is a problem or an inconvenience, because I know for a face that the S550 when it encounters DTSMA and you have it set to mix - it will only output normal DTS...

Anyways, jdobbs...looks like this is resolved, at least for Blurays that have AC3+...

I'm not sure about "The Day The Earth Stood Still" though...as I think there could be a genuine problem there, since that original PiP track doesn't actually even have any audio but a freezing occurs when PiP video should appear.


EDIT

Problem with freezing is still there with "The Day The Earth Stood Still"....

Also...I'm using the "keep interlaced" option and when I look at this material on my Sony S550...There are clear interlaced zig zagging present as if the player isn't even attempting to deinterlace? Is this a known bug? This is on "The Matrix" special features.

[daberti]

BD-RB is just showing the error that it received from TSMUXER. I've never seen that one either.

I'm waiting for my 0.25.2 8% sample encode to finish, with 1%, 2%, 4% already done.
Black Hawk Down, regionB, Movie Only BD25 destination, High Speed+One-pass. More about this later.

Meanwhile a thought came into my mind: it has always been my understanding that Trellis should be somehow (but not necessarily) helpful in a 2-pass encoding environment and that could lead to unpredictable results in 1-pass only encoding. I just leave it disabled by default. What is your opinion?

EDIT 2009-07-23
Logs of 0.25.2 with 1%-2%-4%-8% follow (20.4GB-20.4GB-20.8GB-21.2GB respectively)
-----------------------
[10.59.50] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[10.59.50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10.59.50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11.18.39] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 207.624 frames
- [11.18.39] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [11.18.39] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 21,56 22,65 [22,76]
- [11.28.30] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [16.33.55] Video Encode complete
- [16.33.55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16.33.55] Multiplexing M2TS
[16.49.20]PHASE ONE complete
[16.49.20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16.49.20] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [17.11.29] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[17.20.07] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17.20.07]JOB: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN finished.
-----------------------
[17.34.59] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[17.34.59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17.34.59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [18.23.17] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 207.624 frames
- [18.23.18] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [18.23.18] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 21,56 22,65 [22,74]
- [18.34.57] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [22.15.37] Video Encode complete
- [22.15.37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22.15.37] Multiplexing M2TS
[22.31.06]PHASE ONE complete
[22.31.06]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22.31.06] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [22.51.34] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[23.49.15] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23.49.15]JOB: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN finished.
-----------------------
[13.29.30] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[13.29.30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13.29.30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [14.24.49] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 207.624 frames
- [14.24.50] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [14.24.50] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 21,56 22,53 [22,60]
- [14.47.17] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [18.36.22] Video Encode complete
- [18.36.22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18.36.22] Multiplexing M2TS
[18.51.38]PHASE ONE complete
[18.51.38]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18.51.38] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [19.13.39] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[19.49.09] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[19.49.09]JOB: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN finished.
-----------------------
[10.29.52] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[10.29.55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10.29.55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11.26.48] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 207.624 frames
- [11.26.48] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [11.26.48] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 21,56 22,40 [22,45]
- [12.22.04] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [17.31.48] Video Encode complete
- [17.31.48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17.31.48] Multiplexing M2TS
[17.47.34]PHASE ONE complete
[17.47.34]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17.47.34] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [18.09.18] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[19.44.25] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[19.44.25]JOB: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN finished.
-----------------------

Now 0.25.3 at default sampling is running....more later

[drmih]

EDIT





SOLUTION!!!!



Right, the problem seems to be because I had the S550 set to output in "pure" mode. This has the effect of outputting a bit stream for a receiver that can decode TrueHD\DTSMA (which mine can). However it seems there is a limitation in the player that it can't output the AC3+ audio mixed with that "pure" signal - which would make sense having the effect of not hearing the PiP audio (which should be mixed with the main TrueHD audio track - and NOT actually replace it)...

So "The Matrix" works fine now...TrueHD appears in when I press the "info" button on the remote, but I can actually hear the PiP track + the main TrueHD track together - (when I set the output to "mix" in the settings for the S550)


However there is a problem or an inconvenience, because I know for a face that the S550 when it encounters DTSMA and you have it set to mix - it will only output normal DTS...

Anyways, jdobbs...looks like this is resolved, at least for Blurays that have AC3+...

I'm not sure about "The Day The Earth Stood Still" though...as I think there could be a genuine problem there, since that original PiP track doesn't actually even have any audio but a freezing occurs when PiP video should appear.


EDIT

Problem with freezing is still there with "The Day The Earth Stood Still"....

Also...I'm using the "keep interlaced" option and when I look at this material on my Sony S550...There are clear interlaced zig zagging present as if the player isn't even attempting to deinterlace? Is this a known bug? This is on "The Matrix" special features.

I'll also try this later as I still have a stack of discs I have done to try and get around this.

**I'm not sure exactly what you have got working but I have 'old' discs which have the missing audio as well as one I did yesterday with the new options. I still get no audio. I assume that what you are changing is: Audio Settings->BD Audio Settings->Mix or Direct

[Sharc]

Just to report back on v0.25.03 (beta):
1-pass encode of movie only onto BD5 / 720p / 2 x audio ac3 480 /1 x sup
crf sequence: 27.78 10.83 24.61 22.83 22.44 [22.48] (it took 15 minutes)
Medium DVD5 filled to 97%. Excellent fit :)

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Do you know what would be causing this?

I downloaded the zip of v.0.25.03 from Post #1 of this thread.

When unzipping, McAfee indicated that it was removing "Artemis" trojan.

Anyone else seeing this?

[LowDead]

@setarip_old

No warnings with Norton 360 v3.0..

//LD

[Furiousflea]

I'll also try this later as I still have a stack of discs I have done to try and get around this.

**I'm not sure exactly what you have got working but I have 'old' discs which have the missing audio as well as one I did yesterday with the new options. I still get no audio. I assume that what you are changing is: Audio Settings->BD Audio Settings->Mix or Direct

That's correct. I even checked my original and that has no audio either (I didn't check before since I don't even watch "in movie experience" rubbish but still wanted it as an option for completeness).

However for "The Day The Earth Stood Still", that doesn't freeze on the original ;)

Do you have a receiver that can decode TrueHD? Since with TrueHD it is still sending that through mixed with the AC3+ (when you have the setting set to "mix" in the menu you described).

To prove this quirk with the S550, you'll also notice you get no menu audio when it is set to "direct". Basically "direct" stops any "mixing" at all working. But has the benefit of outputting genuine DTSMA as opssosed to DTS. It seems that the S550 doesn't have the cpu power to decode DTSMA, mix in anything else then recode to DTSMA -> output, but it can for TrueHD.

Maybe a firmware update might fix your problem? There was a new one about a month ago.

[iSeries]

I'm also getting the Artemis Trojan warning when trying to install latest version (using McAfee).

Something must have changed as I've never had this warning before when installing BD Rebuilder?

[Sharc]

@jdobbs

Do you know what would be causing this?

I downloaded the zip of v.0.25.03 from Post #1 of this thread.

When unzipping, McAfee indicated that it was removing "Artemis" trojan.

Anyone else seeing this?
No alert here. I am also using McAfee.....

[jdobbs]

No alert here. I am also using McAfee..... And so am I.

[jdobbs]

EDIT

Problem with freezing is still there with "The Day The Earth Stood Still"....

Also...I'm using the "keep interlaced" option and when I look at this material on my Sony S550...There are clear interlaced zig zagging present as if the player isn't even attempting to deinterlace? Is this a known bug? This is on "The Matrix" special features.Does the freezing happen even if the same files are burned to a BD-RE? I know I tested "The Matrix" successfully, but I can't remember if I tested it on BD-9.

[setarip_old]

@Sharc

If you would be good enough to NOW download it again and manually scan with McAfee, does McAfee indicate anything unusual (Quarantining the .exe, etc.)?

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs

Do you know what would be causing this?

I downloaded the zip of v.0.25.03 from Post #1 of this thread.

When unzipping, McAfee indicated that it was removing "Artemis" trojan.

Anyone else seeing this?

Yes, I am using McAfee and I get this "Artemis" trojan also. I am unable to use BD-RB anymore since it gets quarrantined. I lso tried 2501, same thing. 2402 is ok though.

[Sharc]

@Sharc

If you would be good enough to NOW download it again and manually scan with McAfee, does McAfee indicate anything unusual (Quarantining the .exe, etc.)?
I re-downloaded it just for that purpose before I posted. I forced a scan on the downloaded .zip. No alert, no quarantining.

[Capsbackup]

I just re-downloaded it also, and get the same "Artemis" trojan, and BD-RB gets quarantined. Something's up, and I am not having fun now! :angry:

EDIT:
BD-RBV02402 and BD-RBV02502 are ok, BD-RBV02501 and BD-RBV02503 are not.

[setarip_old]

@CapsbackupI lso tried 2501, same thing.This is really getting weird. I just manually scanned the 25.01 zip and it is now also showing the "Artemis" trojan - despite the fact that this wasn't the case when I originally downloaded and unzipped it!

I'd been using 25.01 since the day it was issued (7/08?), without incident, until the release of 25.02.

Just as you've noted, 25.02 is OK, while 25.01 and 25.03 indicate the trojan.

I'm mystified!

I don't know if the OS has any bearing on this, but I'm seeing this anomalous behavior on a system running Vista 64 Home Edition SP2...

[Capsbackup]

@setarip_old
I'm running XP Pro 32 bit with SP3.
My McAfee is the version that comes with ATT DSL.

[Sharc]

Getting curious, I re-downloaded again on 2 PCs, one with McAfee enterprise and 1 with the standard version. I also forced an update of the McAfee: No alarm, nothing, all clean ....:confused:

[Bosco82]

Avira is showing the TR/Crypt.XPACK.Gen - Trojan for .25.03 again so I have just disabled Avira so I can run it.

[jdobbs]

Yes, I am using McAfee and I get this "Artemis" trojan also. I am unable to use BD-RB anymore since it gets quarrantined. I lso tried 2501, same thing. 2402 is ok though. The difference is that for that one version (I assume you mean 2502), I didn't use EXECryptor (my license ran out over that weekend). So for 2502 I used ASPROTECT. I renewed the EXECryptor license and went back to it. You need to notify McAfee -- it has to be a false positive. I've been using that package for a long time -- including all the BD Rebuilder versions.

Honestly, I know we need these virus packages because of the high number of a$$holes in the world -- but sometimes I wonder if they are more trouble than they are worth.

[Capsbackup]

The difference is that for that one version 2402, I didn't use EXEncryptor (my license ran out over that weekend). I renewed the license and went back. You need to notify McAfee -- it has to be a false positive.

I can do this, but if you have ever tried to notify them before, and expect a speedy update, well.. I may as well watch my grass grow!!

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

From my previous experience with the folks at McAfee, such notification is comparable to resisting the Borg ;>}

More importantly, why would "Capsbackup" and I, both with the AT&T DSL version of McAfee be getting these presumed false positives, while you and "Sharc" are not?

[jdobbs]

I can do this, but if you have ever tried to notify them before, and expect a speedy update, well.. I may as well watch my grass grow!! I can repost it with ASPROTECT instead. I'll reversion it to 0.25.4. The main reason I use these packages is because they do a checksum of the executable before they will run -- which specifically protects it from trojan attachments. With freeware, you have to do something, or some jerk will hack a virus into it's tail and post it for download somewhere.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

From my previous experience with the folks at McAfee, such notification is comparable to resisting the Borg ;>}

More importantly, why would "Capsbackup" and I, both with the AT&T DSL version of McAfee be getting these presumed false positives, while you and "Sharc" are not?Resistance is futile.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

I can repost it with ASPROTECT instead.Please be good enough to post when you've accomplished this ;>}

[Furiousflea]

Does the freezing happen even if the same files are burned to a BD-RE? I know I tested "The Matrix" successfully, but I can't remember if I tested it on BD-9.

I'm not sure I follow. All my dialogue has been with the assumption that the backup target is BDR\BD25. I don't do any BD9 backups anymore except for animation. Do you mean just try to BD-RE as opposed to BD-R? If so I have done that with same results.

Sorry can't be more help :)

I can for certain say though that AC3+ audio tracks with PiP are working 100% as they should though on the S550.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs

Please be good enough to post when you've accomplished this ;>}

I second this and thank you for your patience, jdobbs. :)
I was feeling, well.. it reminds me of putting an ice cream cone in front of a child, and to see those eyes light up and tongue starts salivating, and just when they reach out to take that first lick, the scoop falls to the ground. ;)

[Kakashi Sensei]

Might have been answered in a previous post but i can't find it. How do i enable the video for secondary stream(PiP). It shows a red "X" were the video should be and i think thats why i get stuttering issues with Matrix and now with Coraline. On a side note I cant remove the audio for that either. These are BD25 backups.

Thank you :)

[Furiousflea]

Might have been answered in a previous post but i can't find it. How do i enable the video for secondary stream(PiP). It shows a red "X" were the video should be and i think thats why i get stuttering issues with Matrix and now with Coraline. On a side note I cant remove the audio for that either. These are BD25 backups.

Thank you :)

look in changes.txt

[Chiamos]

The difference is that for that one version (I assume you mean 2502), I didn't use EXECryptor (my license ran out over that weekend). So for 2502 I used ASPROTECT. I renewed the EXECryptor license and went back to it. You need to notify McAfee -- it has to be a false positive. I've been using that package for a long time -- including all the BD Rebuilder versions.

Honestly, I know we need these virus packages because of the high number of a$$holes in the world -- but sometimes I wonder if they are more trouble than they are worth.

I'm totally with you there. :)
I had a Trojan Warning with Avira on 2501 and now 2503, but by deselecting "Automatic Removal" from within Avira and giving me the selection option on making the calls on any of those warnings, so I just simply ticked "Ignore", and now I still have use of Avira and your super BD Rebuilder.:D

[Kakashi Sensei]

look in changes.txt

Thanks.... I figured it was somewhere obvious.

[jdobbs]

I'm not sure I follow. All my dialogue has been with the assumption that the backup target is BDR\BD25. I don't do any BD9 backups anymore except for animation. Do you mean just try to BD-RE as opposed to BD-R? If so I have done that with same results.

Sorry can't be more help :)

I can for certain say though that AC3+ audio tracks with PiP are working 100% as they should though on the S550. I'm really confused now. I thought that sound issue only happened on BD-9. The Frost/Nixon example I spoke of worked on BD-25, but failed on BD-9.

Hmmm... but then again I probably switched from the BD-S301 to the BD-S350 player in the meantime.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new version of BD-RB (v0.25.04). Changes:
- Modified EXE compression to prevent false positive
from AV program(s).
- Added code to prevent "forever loop" in one-pass
prediction under certain unusual circumstances.
- Added a default background image to be used when
blanking occurs. You can change if you wish, but
remember it will be stretched/shrunk to match the
source resolution. Look in the new MISC folder.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Added note: If you delete the "blank.jpg" file in the MISC folder, the program will use the old blanking technique.

[Chiamos]

Thanks jdobbs for another new beta version.:)

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Thank you for eliminating the cause of the false positive ;>}

[drmih]

I'm really confused now. I thought that sound issue only happened on BD-9. The Frost/Nixon example I spoke of worked on BD-25, but failed on BD-9.

Hmmm... but then again I probably switched from the BD-S301 to the BD-S350 player in the meantime.

I think that there are crossed wires. I replied to him assuming that he had identified a way of resolving the bd-9 issue when in fact it was to do with a different issue regarding the PiP audio playback on bd-r.
From what you mentioned before, is it possible to remove additional references to the PiP and associated audio above and beyond what the early versions of the programme did by effectively ignoring them. I've never bothered with this function but would like to keep 'full discs' for the other extras and yet see if it could be made to work as bd-9 on a Sony.

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi,

I tried Bourne Identity and Hellboy 2 (both Universal Titles with PiP) with PiP processing enabled in BD-RB 25.03. Full to BD25.

The main movie still does not play with PowerDVD.

Bye

[tekmobile]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new version of BD-RB (v0.25.04). Changes:
- Modified EXE compression to prevent false positive
from AV program(s).
- Added code to prevent "forever loop" in one-pass
prediction under certain unusual circumstances.
- Added a default background image to be used when
blanking occurs. You can change if you wish, but
remember it will be stretched/shrunk to match the
source resolution. Look in the new MISC folder.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Added note: If you delete the "blank.jpg" file in the MISC folder, the program will use the old blanking technique.

Does this also blank out on BD25 ReEncodes now if you choose not to copy VC-1 1080i files.

Also since you have now made quick encode for extra's on by default what happens with seamless branched discs does it do a full 2 pass on every segment of the movie of just the largest one
plus what happens if you choose to manually change the audio selections via the GUI on a seemless branched disc by say adding or removing an audio track does this also get reflected to all segments or just the one altered.

Thanks

[Sharc]

Movie "Doubt". BD-RB v0.25.03. Movie only / resize 720 / 2 x audio ac3 448 / 1x sup.
1-pass encoding. Disk (DVD5) filled to 98%. Perfect.
However, audio lags by about 1 second. (I never experienced a sync problem before with BD-RB).
Re-muxing didn't help. Any idea what could be wrong?

I did the same manually with the .m2ts file as source, using DG...NV for indexing and eac3to for audio demuxing / 448 ac3 conversion, and tsmuxer for blu-ray muxing. Audio/video sync is ok.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Thank you for eliminating the cause of the false positive ;>} Well... the cause of the false positive is McAfee, not BD-RB or EXECryptor. But I get your point.

[jdobbs]

Hi,

I tried Bourne Identity and Hellboy 2 (both Universal Titles with PiP) with PiP processing enabled in BD-RB 25.03. Full to BD25.

The main movie still does not play with PowerDVD.

Bye What can I say? It works on "real players" -- which to me is the test.

[jdobbs]

Movie "Doubt". BD-RB v0.25.03. Movie only / resize 720 / 2 x audio ac3 448 / 1x sup.
1-pass encoding. Disk (DVD5) filled to 98%. Perfect.
However, audio lags by about 1 second. (I never experienced a sync problem before with BD-RB).
Re-muxing didn't help. Any idea what could be wrong?

I did the same manually with the .m2ts file as source, using DG...NV for indexing and eac3to for audio demuxing / 448 ac3 conversion, and tsmuxer for blu-ray muxing. Audio/video sync is ok. Hmmm... not sure what could be causing that. I'll look at "Doubt", I think it is still on one of my hard drives.

[Capsbackup]

Well... the cause of the false positive is McAfee, not BD-RB or EXECryptor. But I get your point.

I thank you also for the new release. I have not tried out a movie yet, but at least I can unzip without McAfee going off!
Interesting tht I have used every version released of BD-RB and only had this happen on 2501 and 2503. :confused:
Oh well, just glad I can use BD-RB again!! :thanks:

[jdobbs]

Movie "Doubt". BD-RB v0.25.03. Movie only / resize 720 / 2 x audio ac3 448 / 1x sup.
1-pass encoding. Disk (DVD5) filled to 98%. Perfect.
However, audio lags by about 1 second. (I never experienced a sync problem before with BD-RB).
Re-muxing didn't help. Any idea what could be wrong?

I did the same manually with the .m2ts file as source, using DG...NV for indexing and eac3to for audio demuxing / 448 ac3 conversion, and tsmuxer for blu-ray muxing. Audio/video sync is ok. Does the other method indicate an audio delay?

[jdobbs]

I thank you also for the new release. I have not tried out a movie yet, but at least I can unzip without McAfee going off!
Interesting tht I have used every version released of BD-RB and only had this happen on 2501 and 2503. :confused:
Oh well, just glad I can use BD-RB again!! :thanks: Have you tried any of the older ones? I've been using EXECryptor for a long time -- in fact, I think it was on every BD-RB version other than 2502 and the one I just released. My guess would be that it was caused by an erroneous database update to your ATT McAfee.

[Capsbackup]

Have you tried any of the older ones? I've been using EXECryptor for a long time -- in fact, I think it was on every BD-RB version other than 2502 and the one I just released. My guess would be that it was caused by an erroneous database update to your ATT McAfee.

Yes, I have used every version from back in December 2008, from your initial release. Only 2501 and 2503 caused McAfee to react. I guess that is why I thought it was strange.

[jdobbs]

Yes, I have used every version from back in December 2008, from your initial release. Only 2501 and 2503 caused McAfee to react. I guess that is why I thought it was strange. I'm checking it out. It may be the combination of some recent code combined with EXECryptor, you never know. I removed those two versions from my site, just so I don't get complaints from McAfee users...

[Capsbackup]

I'm checking it out. It may be the combination of some recent code combined with EXECryptor, you never know. I removed those two versions from my site, just so I don't get complaints from McAfee users...

I thank you for this. Sorry to have brought about another one to your list. But I'm glad to be able to test the new version again. :cool:

[Sharc]

Does the other method indicate an audio delay?
I see no such indication from the log, and the tsmuxer .meta includes timeshift=0. The original audio formats for the 2 tracks are DTS HD XLL Multi-Ch and DTS Multi Ch which I convert to ac3 448kbps.

I will demux the audio with DGAVCIndex and see if it indicates a delay for the audio.

Added: DGAVCIndex flagged all audio tracks with DELAY 0ms

[Furiousflea]

I'm really confused now. I thought that sound issue only happened on BD-9. The Frost/Nixon example I spoke of worked on BD-25, but failed on BD-9.

Hmmm... but then again I probably switched from the BD-S301 to the BD-S350 player in the meantime.

lol, definately have some knots in communiaction here :)

I'll try to clarify.

You're right the audio problem with no audio\subs being selectable does only happen on BD9.

My problem isn't related to that. If you go back a page you will see that I managed to get the PiP AND PiP AC3+ audio tracks working by changing a setting on my player.

However I am still experiencing freezing issues on "The Day The Earth Stood Still" whenever a PiP window appears when watching the film. It will freeze just before it should appear. On this disc there is no audio track present for the PiP video. It should just show some storyboards and related silent things. The main audio track is DTSMA.

All AC3+ PiP discs are working PERFECTLY. They all use TrueHD as the main soundtrack

[Furiousflea]

Only other problem is that when playing the backup BD25 all interlaced material isn't getting deinterlaced instead got zig zag\scanlines all over the place (using KEEP_INTERLACING=1).

[daberti]

I'm waiting for my 0.25.2 8% sample encode to finish, with 1%, 2%, 4% already done.
Black Hawk Down, regionB, Movie Only BD25 destination, High Speed+One-pass. More about this later.

Meanwhile a thought came into my mind: it has always been my understanding that Trellis should be somehow (but not necessarily) helpful in a 2-pass encoding environment and that could lead to unpredictable results in 1-pass only encoding. I just leave it disabled by default. What is your opinion?

EDIT 2009-07-23
Logs of 0.25.2 with 1%-2%-4%-8% follow (20.4GB-20.4GB-20.8GB-21.2GB respectively)
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[10.59.50] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[10.59.50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10.59.50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11.18.39] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 207.624 frames
- [11.18.39] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [11.18.39] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 21,56 22,65 [22,76]
- [11.28.30] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [16.33.55] Video Encode complete
- [16.33.55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16.33.55] Multiplexing M2TS
[16.49.20]PHASE ONE complete
[16.49.20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16.49.20] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [17.11.29] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[17.20.07] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17.20.07]JOB: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN finished.
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[17.34.59] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[17.34.59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17.34.59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [18.23.17] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 207.624 frames
- [18.23.18] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [18.23.18] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 21,56 22,65 [22,74]
- [18.34.57] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [22.15.37] Video Encode complete
- [22.15.37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22.15.37] Multiplexing M2TS
[22.31.06]PHASE ONE complete
[22.31.06]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22.31.06] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [22.51.34] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[23.49.15] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23.49.15]JOB: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN finished.
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[13.29.30] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[13.29.30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13.29.30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [14.24.49] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 207.624 frames
- [14.24.50] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [14.24.50] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 21,56 22,53 [22,60]
- [14.47.17] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [18.36.22] Video Encode complete
- [18.36.22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18.36.22] Multiplexing M2TS
[18.51.38]PHASE ONE complete
[18.51.38]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18.51.38] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [19.13.39] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[19.49.09] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[19.49.09]JOB: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN finished.
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[10.29.52] BD Rebuilder v0.25.02 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[10.29.55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10.29.55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11.26.48] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 207.624 frames
- [11.26.48] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [11.26.48] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 21,56 22,40 [22,45]
- [12.22.04] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [17.31.48] Video Encode complete
- [17.31.48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17.31.48] Multiplexing M2TS
[17.47.34]PHASE ONE complete
[17.47.34]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17.47.34] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [18.09.18] CorrectEPData() 00009 2904
[19.44.25] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[19.44.25]JOB: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN finished.
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Now 0.25.4 at default sampling is running....more later..here it is: 20.2GB...
[15.53.03] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[15.53.06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15.53.06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [16.39.13] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 207.624 frames
- [16.39.13] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [16.39.13] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 21,56 22,71 [22,82]
- [16.46.17] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [20.26.16] Video Encode complete
- [20.26.16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20.26.16] Multiplexing M2TS
[20.40.59]PHASE ONE complete
[20.40.59]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [20.40.59] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[21.01.59] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[21.02.00]JOB: BLACK_HAWK_DOWN finished.

[jdobbs]

I'm waiting for my 0.25.2 8% sample encode to finish, with 1%, 2%, 4% already done.
Black Hawk Down, regionB, Movie Only BD25 destination, High Speed+One-pass. More about this later.

Meanwhile a thought came into my mind: it has always been my understanding that Trellis should be somehow (but not necessarily) helpful in a 2-pass encoding environment and that could lead to unpredictable results in 1-pass only encoding. I just leave it disabled by default. What is your opinion? I think one of the X264 programmers could answer better. But I don't think that's true -- otherwise why would the X264 default be CRF (one-pass) encoding with Trellis on? See here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148149)?

[daberti]

I think one of the X264 programmers could answer better. But I don't think that's true -- otherwise why would the X264 default be CRF (one-pass) encoding with Trellis on? See here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148149)?

Got it :)
Thanks

All of my high-speed 1-pass encodings have been done without Trellis. Tomorrow I'll give it a try.

[datman]

Hello jdobbs, nice work on all the new features. I especially like the shut off at completion.

I have been getting this same error at the completion of all 3 encodes with 25.02 and it seems to disrupt the automatic shut off. The encode seems to be fine.

25.03 fix the error at the end and the auto shutoff works Thanks

[jdobbs]

Got it :)
Thanks

All of my high-speed 1-pass encodings have been done without Trellis. Tomorrow I'll give it a try. It depends what quality setting you're using -- for the higher quality modes it is forced on anyway. In reality I was planning on removing that option from the SETUP screen. I just hadn't gotten around to it.

[massiah]

Thanks for the improvements in BD-RB, jdobbs!
I just did full movie backups with THE INCREDIBLE HULK and TROY last night in a little over 1Hr. and 1Hr. and 38 min. respectively!
My Q9650 had never achieved this before. Always took like 6-8 hrs.
This thing FLIES now!!!!!

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Just completed "Ghostbusters" movie-only, "One pass-experimental", set for BD-5, English 5.1 .AC3 only, and no subtitles.

The resultant BluRay "package", although of very good visual quality compared to the original BluRay disc, is only 3.65Gb...

I don't think it had any bearing on the outcome (since this was a movie-only conversion) but, I unchecked "Quicker encode for extras".

Your thoughts?

[meadrocks]

I did Watchmen Dir Cut, movie only, 2 pass. There are 2 versions of the movie on the disk;the main movie, and then there's the Max Movie Mode, w/ pop ups & the Director coming on screen & talking about the movie. When I do a movie only it seems to pick the track of the Max Movie Mode, not the track of just the movie. How do I select what track I want to do for a movie only copy? Is there a way to extract the track I want to another directory & let BD-RB work on that? Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I did Watchmen Dir Cut, movie only, 2 pass. There are 2 versions of the movie on the disk;the main movie, and then there's the Max Movie Mode, w/ pop ups & the Director coming on screen & talking about the movie. When I do a movie only it seems to pick the track of the Max Movie Mode, not the track of just the movie. How do I select what track I want to do for a movie only copy? Is there a way to extract the track I want to another directory & let BD-RB work on that? Thanks.Look under the MODE menu for "Alternate Movie-Only Playlist". Eventually I'll add a simple viewer so you can see which one is which.

[Chiamos]

Thanks for the improvements in BD-RB, jdobbs!
I just did full movie backups with THE INCREDIBLE HULK and TROY last night in a little over 1Hr. and 1Hr. and 38 min. respectively!
My Q9650 had never achieved this before. Always took like 6-8 hrs.
This thing FLIES now!!!!!

Hi massiah.
That is really great.:)
Please provide your BD Rebuilder settings.:thanks:

[meadrocks]

Look under the MODE menu for "Alternate Movie-Only Playlist". Eventually I'll add a simple viewer so you can see which one is which.

Sweet, thanks. I'll try it tonight.

[Capsbackup]

Just tested BD-RBV02504 on a full movie backup to BD-25 on Beowulf, region 1, NTSC with PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 set, since this is a PIP Blu-Ray. There is only PIP video in the original, no audio. Burned to BD-RE for playback on my Sony BDP-BX1.
The backup video pauses at the starting point of the pop up PIP, approx. 1 minute from the start of the movie. The time clock continues to advance. There is no PIP visible, only the border that would surround it if it were present.
If I select to play the movie only without the option of the PIP, it still pauses at the same time. The video remains a still picture from the start of where the PIP would pop up, and will not advance or resume.

EDIT:
The movie will not start, only a black screen when I tried to play back the BD-RE on my computer with PowerDVD 7.3.
It does play fine, including PIP with TMT 2.1.6.130 however.
It's just too bad I don't watch my movies from the PC. :(

[daberti]

It depends what quality setting you're using -- for the higher quality modes it is forced on anyway. In reality I was planning on removing that option from the SETUP screen. I just hadn't gotten around to it.

Got it.
Thanks

[laserfan]

Just completed "Ghostbusters" movie-only...The resultant BluRay "package", although of very good visual quality compared to the original BluRay disc, is only 3.65Gb...Seems to me you just might be "arguing with success". Maybe 3.65 Gb is all x264 needs to make a good quality copy.

If you are hell-bent to hit a target, perhaps you should use 2-pass instead.

[Furiousflea]

Just tested BD-RBV02504 on a full movie backup to BD-25 on Beowulf, region 1, NTSC with PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 set, since this is a PIP Blu-Ray. There is only PIP video in the original, no audio. Burned to BD-RE for playback on my Sony BDP-BX1.
The backup video pauses at the starting point of the pop up PIP, approx. 1 minute from the start of the movie. The time clock continues to advance. There is no PIP visible, only the border that would surround it if it were present.
If I select to play the movie only without the option of the PIP, it still pauses at the same time. The video remains a still picture from the start of where the PIP would pop up, and will not advance or resume.

EDIT:
The movie will not start, only a black screen when I tried to play back the BD-RE on my computer with PowerDVD 7.3.
It does play fine, including PIP with TMT 2.1.6.130 however.
It's just too bad I don't watch my movies from the PC. :(

Well, this looks like exactly the same problem I had with The Day The Earth Stood Still and on a different SAD (Sony BDP-S550), This disc also has no audio on the PiP...

jdobbs, maybe there's a bug in the way PiP is handled if there is no audio...Is BDRB "expecting" an audio stream to be present and doing something wrong because there genuinely isn't one present on the original? As said already AC3+ with PiP is working perfectly for me with all discs I have tried, about 6

[jdobbs]

Well, this looks like exactly the same problem I had with The Day The Earth Stood Still and on a different SAD (Sony BDP-S550), This disc also has no audio on the PiP...

jdobbs, maybe there's a bug in the way PiP is handled if there is no audio...Is BDRB "expecting" an audio stream to be present and doing something wrong because there genuinely isn't one present on the original? As said already AC3+ with PiP is working perfectly for me with all discs I have tried, about 6 I handle audio/video separately, so I don't think that's it. Interesting, though, that the two examples I've seen that freeze include a video secondary with no audio.

So what's with the bold printing? Has your voice gotten deeper?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs, @laserfan

I just re-did "Ghostbusters" using identical settings, except I unchecked "One-pass(Experimental)".

The result was a 4.17Gb BluRay "package" of superior visual quality than the one of 3.65Gb.

Upon more careful re-examination of the 3.65Gb version, I was able to observe some small background pixelation and blocking that I hadn't noticed when I first created it. The fact that the original BluRay is very grainy didn't make it any easier for my old eyes to evaluate ;>}

BTW - The videostream of the original BluRay disc is 17.2Gb. The English audiostream is 481Mb

[setarip_old]

@laserfanSeems to me you just might be "arguing with success". Maybe 3.65 Gb is all x264 needs to make a good quality copy.
If you are hell-bent to hit a target, perhaps you should use 2-pass instead.From previous postings by "jdobbs", it's apparent to me that the intent regarding "One-pass (Experimental)" is to obtain the best possible quality result by, among other things, using (logically) as much disc space as is available.

My report of the result of using the "One-pass (Experimental)" is primarily intended to let "jdobbs" know that there appears to be a bug in his most recent algorithm regarding ending filesize - not to be personally satisfied or dissatisfied with the visual results (which is presented just as a sidenote)...

[jdobbs]

Well, this looks like exactly the same problem I had with The Day The Earth Stood Still and on a different SAD (Sony BDP-S550), This disc also has no audio on the PiP...

jdobbs, maybe there's a bug in the way PiP is handled if there is no audio...Is BDRB "expecting" an audio stream to be present and doing something wrong because there genuinely isn't one present on the original? As said already AC3+ with PiP is working perfectly for me with all discs I have tried, about 6 I'm running it again to be sure... but I'm pretty positive that I can run this on my system with PiP and it works (maybe it was the Sony BDP-S301). I'll try it on the BDP-S360 when it completes.

[Edit] Actually, it had to have run on the BDP-360 when I tested it. The BDP-S301 doesn't support PiP.

[worknstiff]

Using v0.25.03 and doing a BD-25 of Watchmen (movie only) regular 2 pass mode. I noticed this morning that Log shows Reencoding VID_00509 (10 of 25) then for 3 minutes it shows this error. [05:37:23] GUI Issue, No hwnd returned. It shows this error for 5 times for each sec. for 3 minutes untill [05:40:01] then stops and no further message till reencode starts for VID_00510 at [05:50:00]. I am running Vista Home premium 32k. I had internet off and no others apps running so wonder what made it quit communicating with the GUI for 3 minutes? Is this the frozen at 50% back again (just shorter duration) or was the encoder stuck and I need to start over? I had that frozen GUI a lot using earlier version but no problems untill this encode. I usually just do BD-9's all the timebut this DVD is 3Hrs plus and need the room. Thanks, BTW: Great program. I really enjoy using it and look forward to when it goes on sale. I will be one of the first to purchase.

[jdobbs]

Using v0.25.03 and doing a BD-25 of Watchmen (movie only) regular 2 pass mode. I noticed this morning that Log shows Reencoding VID_00509 (10 of 25) then for 3 minutes it shows this error. [05:37:23] GUI Issue, No hwnd returned. It shows this error for 5 times for each sec. for 3 minutes untill [05:40:01] then stops and no further message till reencode starts for VID_00510 at [05:50:00]. I am running Vista Home premium 32k. I had internet off and no others apps running so wonder what made it quit communicating with the GUI for 3 minutes? Is this the frozen at 50% back again (just shorter duration) or was the encoder stuck and I need to start over? I had that frozen GUI a lot using earlier version but no problems untill this encode. I usually just do BD-9's all the timebut this DVD is 3Hrs plus and need the room. Thanks, BTW: Great program. I really enjoy using it and look forward to when it goes on sale. I will be one of the first to purchase. Yeah. Same issue. I just put a message in so you'd know when it happens. It doesn't negatively affect anything -- but the GUI isn't being updated during the second pass. I sure wish I could figure out why sometimes the O/S -- only occasionally and randomly -- doesn't return a hWnd for a window that I KNOW is there (because it is executing).

[bassnut]

Wow allot has changed in the time I have been away. You have been busy jdobbs. I had a chance to sit down try out the new vession last night and remembered someone had issues with Die Hard 2. Movie processed fine and you might want to try it again with this new version.

Now I will dig out something with PIP and give that a go while I am catching up with things around the house here.

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[22:48:20] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: DIE_HARD_2_US
- Input BD size: 38.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:33:16.758]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:48:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:48:21] Collecting video information [00020]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps, 2,365 frames
- [22:48:21] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:48:21] Reencoding: VID_00020 (3 of 21)
- [22:48:48] Video Encode complete
- [22:48:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:48:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:48:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [22:48:50] Collecting video information [00024]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 712 frames

- [23:31:12] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 177,456 frames
- Bitrate: 18,670 Kbs
- [23:31:12] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:35:39] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:36:22] Video Encode complete
- [08:36:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:36:22] Multiplexing M2TS
[08:47:00]PHASE ONE complete
[08:47:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:47:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[08:47:11] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[08:47:11]JOB: DIE_HARD_2_US finished.

[DaMacFunkin]

Just found a bug with 2504, loaded in madagascar 2 region B, full back up to BD 25 keeping HD audio etc, and the pip video for the main video track is crossed out and won't let you select it for re-encode, but the 2nd audio is selected. Reinstalled 2402 and the pip video is correctly selected but the 2nd audio isn't won't???

[Capsbackup]

@bassnut;
Wow allot has changed in the time I have been away. You have been busy jdobbs. I had a chance to sit down try out the new vession last night and remembered someone had issues with Die Hard 2. Movie processed fine and you might want to try it again with this new version.

Did you try it with keep HD audio, DTS HD Master audio ?
If so, does it play back on a standalone ?
Also, do you have an HDMI receiver capable of playing DTS HD Master audio ?
The movie backed up fine for me, but only silence from the DTS HD Master audio track when played back on my BX1.
It plays the DTS HD Master audio fine on the PC though.

[worknstiff]

Wonder if anyone else has this problem but me. Did 12 Rounds in DVD-9 movie only and plays fine all the way thru but chapter skip or FF freeze up Panasonic BD-30 player. Haven't tried in any other player yet. Movie looks great but this problem bugs me because it is the only one this has happened on. I even burned 2 copys to see if that was the problem. Movie has the new MKV14 encryption and the chapter numbers are listed as 001 and 002 etc. anyone else have this prob? thanks

[Kakashi Sensei]

Has anyone been able to successfully back up Coraline to BD25? its got 2 movie tracks, the 2D and 3D. The 2D movie (the one i want) will not play, it freezes on playback on the PS3. However!! the 3D movie plays flawless with no stuttering or freezeing.

If anyone has any advice, settings or something i'm doing wrong, please advise.

[worknstiff]

Hello, I am trying to figure out space on a BD25. In BD_Rebuilder the default target size after selecting BD25 is ( 22.46 ). If I select Custom size of 24500 MB in setup and select it as custom size it returns a target size of ( 23.93 ). If I understand correctly a BD-R has a gross capacity of 25,025,314,816 bytes or decimal 25.025 GB or 23.307 binary. So is the target size stated in decimal or binary? If I get the near the target size of ( 23.93 ) will it fit on a BD-R or have I wasted 15+ hours encoding a file too big? Sorry if this has all ready been covered some where else but I can't figure it out. thanks

[worknstiff]

Has anyone been able to successfully back up Coraline to BD25? its got 2 movie tracks, the 2D and 3D. The 2D movie (the one i want) will not play, it freezes on playback on the PS3. However!! the 3D movie plays flawless with no stuttering or freezeing.

If anyone has any advice, settings or something i'm doing wrong, please advise.

Sorry all I backed up was just 2D to BD9 and it plays flawlessly. PQ is outstanding.I looked at the 3D on disk and I didn't see much of the 3D stuff on my plasma to make it worth keeping.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Sorry all I backed up was just 2D to BD9 and it plays flawlessly. PQ is outstanding.I looked at the 3D on disk and I didn't see much of the 3D stuff on my plasma to make it worth keeping.

Realistically I dont want the 3D movie as well. But i dont know how to do a BD25 with only the 2D movie. If i did that then the movie wouldn't need to be re-encoded.

[bassnut]

@bassnut;


Did you try it with keep HD audio, DTS HD Master audio ?
If so, does it play back on a standalone ?
Also, do you have an HDMI receiver capable of playing DTS HD Master audio ?
The movie backed up fine for me, but only silence from the DTS HD Master audio track when played back on my BX1.
It plays the DTS HD Master audio fine on the PC though.

Just burnt the movie to disk and it plays back as always. It's been along time since I have had any problems with BD Rebuilder. I have always kept HD Audio since it was enabled and for the most part just backup to BD25.

My System is ..

Sony BDP-S350 Player
Sony HT-SF2300 5.1 home theater

TMT3 shows the Audio Stream as DTS MASTER and BDP-S350 shows it as DTS3/2.1 48KHZ

[nelly09]

hey im a newbie to this forum but ive used bd rebuilder several times. I did benjamin button to bd25 full backup (using 24.02 beta), i didnt change any settings and when finished it had sync problems, audio lagged by a second or 2, then i backed up to bd9 "movie only" and had the same problem, i didnt burn it onto a bd-r to test it on the ps3, i just made an image and played it on powerdvd9. I had the same problem with 27 dresses to bd25 full backup. i have backed up many movies onto bd25 and bd9 that have come out flawless, i havent had a chance to skim through all the pages yet to see if anyone else had this problem but could you tell me what the problem could be?

[GaPony]

hey im a newbie to this forum but ive used bd rebuilder several times. I did benjamin button to bd25 full backup (using 24.02 beta), i didnt change any settings and when finished it had sync problems, audio lagged by a second or 2, then i backed up to bd9 "movie only" and had the same problem, i didnt burn it onto a bd-r to test it on the ps3, i just made an image and played it on powerdvd9. I had the same problem with 27 dresses to bd25 full backup. i have backed up many movies onto bd25 and bd9 that have come out flawless, i havent had a chance to skim through all the pages yet to see if anyone else had this problem but could you tell me what the problem could be?

Try the newest version... A software player isn't the most reliable method of testing the playback.

[Chefkoch_ico]

A software player isn't the most reliable method of testing the playback.
Why not? SAP dont have Software running? You even see from the duration between necessary updates of players, that SAP are not even better in quality.

I tried Bourne Identity and Hellboy 2 (both Universal Titles with PiP) with PiP processing enabled in BD-RB 25.03. Full to BD25.

The main movie still does not play with PowerDVD.
What can I say? It works on "real players" -- which to me is the test.

I did not expect you to comment this, its just a bug report.

Just did Kung Fu Panda which has AC3+ as PiP-Audio, the other titles had DTS HD. Same problem.

And AFAIK, Panasonic players suffer from the same problem.

[drmih]

I think that the issue is Powerdvd - I switched to TMT3 and have not looked back since. If it plays on TMT then I know that when it's burnt to disc that it will play on my standalone. I have 2 versions of Powerdvd installed (7.3 + 8) and some discs play with 7.3 but not 8 and vice versa. I don't know which one you're using but you can't rely on Powerdvd to say whether a encode is good or not.

[jdobbs]

Well, this looks like exactly the same problem I had with The Day The Earth Stood Still and on a different SAD (Sony BDP-S550), This disc also has no audio on the PiP...

jdobbs, maybe there's a bug in the way PiP is handled if there is no audio...Is BDRB "expecting" an audio stream to be present and doing something wrong because there genuinely isn't one present on the original? As said already AC3+ with PiP is working perfectly for me with all discs I have tried, about 6 I'm not sure what is going on with this disc or why you're having issues in BD-25 mode.

I tested this on my BDP-360 and I have the same issues as always on BD-9 -- no audio and no selections can be made. But when I burn the exact same set of files to a BD-25, it plays back with sound and the PiP works perfectly.

[jdobbs]

Just found a bug with 2504, loaded in madagascar 2 region B, full back up to BD 25 keeping HD audio etc, and the pip video for the main video track is crossed out and won't let you select it for re-encode, but the 2nd audio is selected. Reinstalled 2402 and the pip video is correctly selected but the 2nd audio isn't won't??? I don't think what you are seeing is a bug. Check the value of "PROCESS_SECONDARY=" which was implemented in v0.25.01. Secondary streams are not processed unless it is set to "1". (documented in the change log)

[jdobbs]

Hello, I am trying to figure out space on a BD25. In BD_Rebuilder the default target size after selecting BD25 is ( 22.46 ). If I select Custom size of 24500 MB in setup and select it as custom size it returns a target size of ( 23.93 ). If I understand correctly a BD-R has a gross capacity of 25,025,314,816 bytes or decimal 25.025 GB or 23.307 binary. So is the target size stated in decimal or binary? If I get the near the target size of ( 23.93 ) will it fit on a BD-R or have I wasted 15+ hours encoding a file too big? Sorry if this has all ready been covered some where else but I can't figure it out. thanks I guess I don't understand what you're saying. Binary only has two digits "0" and "1". You can never use the numbers that hard-drive manufacturers use to try and make their drives sound larger... A gigabyte is always a gigabyte (1073741824 bytes) -- not 1 billion bytes.

24500MB is the same thing as 23.93GB (24500 / 1024 = 23.92578)

25,025,314,816 bytes is equal to 23866MB which is equal to 23.30GB

Remember: 1 GB = 1024MB, 1MB = 1024KB, 1KB = 1024 bytes

Also remember: Estimates are estimates, and are not exact. If you set the output to 23866, you are very probably going to oversize. I'd suggest using the defaults.

[Furiousflea]

I'm not sure what is going on with this disc or why you're having issues in BD-25 mode.

I tested this on my BDP-360 and I have the same issues as always on BD-9 -- no audio and no selections can be made. But when I burn the exact same set of files to a BD-25, it plays back with sound and the PiP works perfectly.

I'm not talking about that!

I'm talking about 1 disc that I own where the original has...

1. PiP
2. No audio for PiP (THE ORIGINAL)
3. Disc is called "The Day The Earth Stood Still"


All my other discs that have PiP are working fine, however all of them HAVE an audio track for the PiP video...I thought this might just be a quirk and "my fault"...

But I am experiencing the exact same as what someone else is and they are using a different player.....But the common eleement is NO Audio track for the PiP video on their original disc.


So I have now done

8 discs that have AC3+ and PiP - All work perfectly
1 disc that has PiP only - Freezes at PiP point.

(Please forgive my tone, I'm not begging for a fix it's just I think you've got the wrong impression from your response. Only reason I'm making a big deal out of this and not putting it down to a problem at my end is because another user is reporting the same problem and has completely different player.)

:)

[Furiousflea]

I'm not sure what is going on with this disc or why you're having issues in BD-25 mode.

I tested this on my BDP-360 and I have the same issues as always on BD-9 -- no audio and no selections can be made. But when I burn the exact same set of files to a BD-25, it plays back with sound and the PiP works perfectly.

Sorry for my tone before, it looks like you do understand the problem. (disc plays, audio plays...PiP appears...freeze on BD25)

I'm sure it will start to manifest with other people and it will be a bug but until then. It's just the 1 disc :)

[jeffy]

I guess I don't understand what you're saying. Binary only has two digits "0" and "1". You can never use the numbers that hard-drive manufacturers use to try and make their drives sound larger... A gigabyte is always a gigabyte (1073741824 bytes) -- not 1 billion bytes.

24500MB is the same thing as 23.93GB (24500 / 1024 = 23.92578)

25,025,314,816 bytes is equal to 23866MB which is equal to 23.30GB

Remember: 1 GB = 1024MB, 1MB = 1024KB, 1KB = 1024 bytes

Also remember: Estimates are estimates, and are not exact. If you set the output to 23866, you are very probably going to oversize. I'd suggest using the defaults.

There are kilobytes and kibibytes...

kB vs. KiB, MB vs. MiB, GB vs.GiB
1 000/1 024, 1 000 000/1 048 576, 1 000 000 000/1 073 741 824 bytes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(data)
http://www.iec.ch/zone/si/si_bytes.htm
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html

[Atak_Snajpera]

There are kilobytes and kibibytes...

kB vs. KiB, MB vs. MiB, GB vs.GiB
1 000/1 024, 1 000 000/1 048 576, 1 000 000 000/1 073 741 824 bytes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(data)
http://www.iec.ch/zone/si/si_bytes.htm
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html

Windows and probably Linux as well still use GB as 2^10. Memory manufactures also use 2^10. However for unknown reason hard drive manufactures always were using 10^3 !?! I'm also confused with Kbps. Some audio/video encoders use 1024 and some like x264 use 1000. However in communication they use 2^10 rule . 1Mbps = 1024Kbps = 1048576 bps.

[Capsbackup]

Just burnt the movie to disk and it plays back as always. It's been along time since I have had any problems with BD Rebuilder. I have always kept HD Audio since it was enabled and for the most part just backup to BD25.

My System is ..

Sony BDP-S350 Player
Sony HT-SF2300 5.1 home theater

TMT3 shows the Audio Stream as DTS MASTER and BDP-S350 shows it as DTS3/2.1 48KHZ

Thanks for your reply. I mostly don't have a problem with BD-RB either. Just this one disc of the four Die Hard movies will not play the DTS HD Master audio on my BDP-BX1 only. PowerDVD and TMT play back fine, even the DTS HD Master audio. But the BX1 has only silence for that track.
Looks like your receiver may not be capable of DTS HD Master playback if it only shows the core (DTS3/2.1).
Every other movie I have tried with either DTS HD Master audio or Dolby True HD have worked flawlessly.

[Shuttle99]

Not sure what the problem is but I have converted 3 movies so far with 25.04 and all 3 have bad audio, sounds like a bad speaker connection crackle tried it on two different systems and does it on both. These are BD9 conversions. Going back to 24.02 which has never done that.

[Capsbackup]

I have just tested my first movie with PiP and Dolby Digital Plus secondary audio, Batman Begins, region A, NTSC, to BD-25 with keep HD audio( Dolby True HD), with PiP enabled. Backup completes successfully, burn to BD-RE for playback on my Sony BX1.
My BX1 is set to play audio direct, not mixed, so on my initial test, no audio is heard from the secondary audio track.
If I change the BX1 to mixed rather than direct, then the audio plays back.
However, now my receiver only says PCM on either the Dolby Digital track or the Dolby True HD track.
The original Blu-Ray does not require me to change the audio mode to mixed for the secondary Dolby Digital Plus track to be heard.
So, have I sacrificed HD audio for PiP audio to be heard by changing the BX1 to mixed mode ?
Is the HD audio ( Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master ) still being played at HD quality when the BX1 is set to mixed and the receiver says PCM ?
Also noticed that BDInfo says the secondary audio of the original DD Plus track is 192kbps 2.0/48kHz/192kbps.
BDInfo says BD-RB's backup is Dolby Digital Plus 2.0/48kHz, no Bit Rate or Bit Rate in the description column. What does this descrepancy mean, if any ?

This PiP option does seem encouraging, but I have noticed that most of my Blu-Ray's have DTS Express for the secondary audio, which I believe is still not an option for BD-RB or tsMuxeR.

EDIT:
I see Furiousflea has reported a similar finding to this back on page 204, post #2077, for the Sony S550.
I am still curious about my questions though.

[jdobbs]

Sorry for my tone before, it looks like you do understand the problem. (disc plays, audio plays...PiP appears...freeze on BD25)

I'm sure it will start to manifest with other people and it will be a bug but until then. It's just the 1 disc :) Yeah. But it's driving me nuts. Something is hiding in there, and if I find it, it may be the root of other errors too.

[jdobbs]

There are kilobytes and kibibytes...

kB vs. KiB, MB vs. MiB, GB vs.GiB
1 000/1 024, 1 000 000/1 048 576, 1 000 000 000/1 073 741 824 bytes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(data)
http://www.iec.ch/zone/si/si_bytes.htm
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html No. There are kilobytes and there is gibberish. A computer is a binary machine, everything works and is annotated in powers of 2. People who know this stuff don't argue that point.

If you were talking about a kiloton, kilometer, or a kilowatt I would agree. But kilobyte, megabyte, gigabyte, and terabyte all have a fixed finite value, not a wishy-washy "maybe" or "what if".

[Furiousflea]

Yeah. But it's driving me nuts. Something is hiding in there, and if I find it, it may be the root of other errors too.

lol I can only offer my sympathy mate. :)

I'm sorry but I also have to add another "problem" disc, Kung Fu Panda has the same freezing when the PiP appears. This one however DOES have an audio track for the PiP...So there goes my theory :(

Sorry dude.

[Furiousflea]

Here's a bit of info, using my Sony S550 for playback.

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+)

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point...(All AC3+ except TDTESS which doesn't have an audio track present on PiP track)

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E

[Capsbackup]

Here's a bit of info, using my Sony S550 for playback.

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+)

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point...(All AC3+ except TDTESS which doesn't have an audio track present on PiP track)

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E

Are you able to still play your HD audio, either DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD with your S550 set to audio mixed ?
My BX1, if set to mixed, makes my HDMI receiver say "PCM" . The secondary DD Plus will now play and is heard though. I am not sure if the HD audio is still being sent and played back though.
I guess my ears may not be able to tell, but my eyes see PCM and not Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master. :rolleyes:
It would be nice to know, since it may help me make the decision if PiP is in my future backups or not. :confused:

[Sharc]

@laserfanFrom previous postings by "jdobbs", it's apparent to me that the intent regarding "One-pass (Experimental)" is to obtain the best possible quality result by, among other things, using (logically) as much disc space as is available.

My report of the result of using the "One-pass (Experimental)" is primarily intended to let "jdobbs" know that there appears to be a bug in his most recent algorithm regarding ending filesize - not to be personally satisfied or dissatisfied with the visual results (which is presented just as a sidenote)...
What was the crf sequence you got?
You may want to increase the sample size to say 3% instead of the default 1% according to jdobb's post here, and check it's influence on the sizing:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1306763#post1306763

Main benefit of 1-pass crf encoding is saving time compared to 2-pass coding.

[worknstiff]

just for the record Watchmen Movie Only BD-r ( Movie only custom size 24500). Target size was 23.93 GB = Actual size returned 23.2 GB. This was all default settings except custom size. File just barely fit on BD-r at 24.93 GB ( which is darn close to 25 GB ) Whoopie! But played fine on TMT3 and plays fine on DMP-BD30 excellent PQ looks just like original. BUT!! CHAPTER SEEK & FF FREEZE Player. Have to eject to continue, but if left alone plays fine.

[scissors]

No. There are kilobytes and there is gibberish. A computer is a binary machine, everything works and is annotated in powers of 2. People who know this stuff don't argue that point.

If you were talking about a kiloton, kilometer, or a kilowatt I would agree. But kilobyte, megabyte, gigabyte, and terabyte all have a fixed finite value, not a wishy-washy "maybe" or "what if".


I'm surprised you let yourself get drawn into this. Particulary as the opening message of your own thread clearly states it's for reporting bugs only....

[worknstiff]

I'm so sorry about commenting on being confused about the maximum files size on BD-r 25 disks anyhow. I was really just wanting to know why if you put custom size at 24500 why it was showing 23.93 as targeted size. I am stingy with my few BD-25 and wanted the maximum amount of pure video quality on my 6 dollar verbatium disk. I go by the WEHS (where eyes hit screen) method of video copying. That is where I want the most emphasis placed IMO. I do care about all the full disk and PIP stuff in theory but for six bucks I don't need to have all the bells and whistles, just the maximum quality WEHS. LOL! Again sorry to have hit a sore point, just don't like only using 22.4 GB on a 25 GB disk if it will really hold every last "BITE" of 25 GB of actual bytes.

[Furiousflea]

Are you able to still play your HD audio, either DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD with your S550 set to audio mixed ?
My BX1, if set to mixed, makes my HDMI receiver say "PCM" . The secondary DD Plus will now play and is heard though. I am not sure if the HD audio is still being sent and played back though.
I guess my ears may not be able to tell, but my eyes see PCM and not Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master. :rolleyes:
It would be nice to know, since it may help me make the decision if PiP is in my future backups or not. :confused:

This is completely normal. All S550s do it, for original and backups. The problem is that the S550 cannot decode DTS Master Audio and PiP audio and mix them both and output...But it CAN for TrueHD and PiP audio.

So, if you have a DTSMA track on the main disc but have your audio output to "mix" in the S550 settings menu, you will ALWAYS only hear normal DTS at 1.5mbits.

TrueHD is not affected by this limitation and the S550 can output TrueHD+PiP audio at full lossless resolution...

There are positives in that you can only hear the "clicks" and "wooshes" on menus when you have it set to "mix". Also you can only hear PiP audio if it is set to "mix".

The reason you have PCM audio on your amp is because when "mix" is set. The player decodes all audio then mixes it together and then outputs an LPCM surround track.

I wrongly assumed that it would recode everything back to the format of the main audio tracks codec and then output. But thinking about it that is obviously not the case.

Seeing "PCM" on your amp\receiver is nothing to worry about and just means you have "mix" set on. It would appear your model works the same way as the S550.

EDIT - Just to clarify, with "mix" set on you will only hear the lossy core for DTS Master Audio, but you WILL hear HD Audio for TrueHD.

[DaMacFunkin]

How do you implement blanking? Have i missed something? I went on hols for a month and am strugling to catch back up...

[Capsbackup]

@Furiousflea;
Thank you for the explanation.
After purchasing a new HDMI receiver just for Blu-Ray HD audio, and reading the instructions from my Sony BX1, direct audio rather than mixed is the proper setting to play the Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master audio. But for secondary audio, mixed is the setting to select.
Seems odd to have to change the settings for the audio for the BD player to either be able to hear the secondary audio for PiP or HD audio for most normal movie playback. Menu selection options on the BD discs, for PiP feature, don't reference this necessary BD player audio change to enable this feature. ( nor will most people change it back and forth )
For me, unless something changes, it is looking like PiP viewing may need to stay with the original and not my backups. :(

[jdobbs]

@Furiousflea;
Thank you for the explanation.
After purchasing a new HDMI receiver just for Blu-Ray HD audio, and reading the instructions from my Sony BX1, direct audio rather than mixed is the proper setting to play the Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master audio. But for secondary audio, mixed is the setting to select.
Seems odd to have to change the settings for the audio for the BD player to either be able to hear the secondary audio for PiP or HD audio for most normal movie playback. Menu selection options on the BD discs, for PiP feature, don't reference this necessary BD player audio change to enable this feature. ( nor will most people change it back and forth )
For me, unless something changes, it is looking like PiP viewing may need to stay with the original and not my backups. :( I'm starting to feel the same way.

[Furiousflea]

I'm starting to feel the same way.

lol, maybe...

But in reference to Capsbackup post, his originals behave in exactly the same manner!!!!

His problem has nothing to do with BDRB, it's just the player...Go have a look Caps, you'll see your originals will have NO SOUND for PiP audio track if you have output set to "direct".

[Furiousflea]

@Furiousflea;
Thank you for the explanation.
After purchasing a new HDMI receiver just for Blu-Ray HD audio, and reading the instructions from my Sony BX1, direct audio rather than mixed is the proper setting to play the Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master audio. But for secondary audio, mixed is the setting to select.
Seems odd to have to change the settings for the audio for the BD player to either be able to hear the secondary audio for PiP or HD audio for most normal movie playback. Menu selection options on the BD discs, for PiP feature, don't reference this necessary BD player audio change to enable this feature. ( nor will most people change it back and forth )
For me, unless something changes, it is looking like PiP viewing may need to stay with the original and not my backups. :(

but your originals will behave in exactly the same way ;)

It's just a quirk of the player and the crappy beta technology that is "Blu-Ray". :)

[tekmobile]

lol, maybe...

But in reference to Capsbackup post, his originals behave in exactly the same manner!!!!

His problem has nothing to do with BDRB, it's just the player...Go have a look Caps, you'll see your originals will have NO SOUND for PiP audio track if you have output set to "direct".

I don't bother with PiP tracks partly for this reason

My player is set to direct and like all players will not pass Menu/PiP audio on originals either

It would of been great if the BD Spec/Disc incorporated a function that tells the player when to mix (menu's, movie w/PiP etc) and when to do direct (main movie etc) or the players in general were intellegent enough to know

[GaPony]

I'm so sorry about commenting on being confused about the maximum files size on BD-r 25 disks anyhow. I was really just wanting to know why if you put custom size at 24500 why it was showing 23.93 as targeted size. I am stingy with my few BD-25 and wanted the maximum amount of pure video quality on my 6 dollar verbatium disk. I go by the WEHS (where eyes hit screen) method of video copying. That is where I want the most emphasis placed IMO. I do care about all the full disk and PIP stuff in theory but for six bucks I don't need to have all the bells and whistles, just the maximum quality WEHS. LOL! Again sorry to have hit a sore point, just don't like only using 22.4 GB on a 25 GB disk if it will really hold every last "BITE" of 25 GB of actual bytes.

Just buy $3.50 Ritek discs instead and you won't have to be so stingy. :)

Sometimes... just making the copy bigger, doesn't necessarily make it any better. Most of the space is used by the audio anyway.

You might even be joyfully amazed at what you can do with copies to BD9. ;)

[Capsbackup]

but your originals will behave in exactly the same way ;)

It's just a quirk of the player and the crappy beta technology that is "Blu-Ray". :)

You are correct.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Here's a bit of info, using my Sony S550 for playback.

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+)

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point...(All AC3+ except TDTESS which doesn't have an audio track present on PiP track)

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E
Furiousflea - what are your settings for Matrix Series? All the encodes i do have choppy playback. Found the original source to playback smooth but every encode i do w/PiP and w/o PiP i just can't get it to encode properly.

Thanks
KS

[Furiousflea]

Furiousflea - what are your settings for Matrix Series? All the encodes i do have choppy playback. Found the original source to playback smooth but every encode i do w/PiP and w/o PiP i just can't get it to encode properly.

Thanks
KS

I don't use any specific settings, tried 2 pass\1 pass experimental\fast\slow\everything really. I don't select strict compliance...

Ummm....Could just be your player? Or your discs?

[Furiousflea]

Just done Resident Evil Degeneration...That also has the "Freezing"...

I've noticed that ALL Warner Bros PiP discs work Perfectly...

Anything else has the freezing.

Updated working\non working...

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+) These are all Warner Bros discs except RE Extinction...

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction (screen gems)
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point... These are Dreamworks\Universal\other.

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E
Resident Evil Degeneration
Added Pinnochio


I've noticed that the Warner Bros discs are all in a set style in terms of structure most likely due to being clones of their HDDVD counterparts, they don't have anything crazy like more than 1 PiP video track and all have AC3+ for audio...

jdobbs there must be some bug somewhere, maybe have a look at the differences between Warner Bros discs and others and see if you can find anything?....good luck :)

[Capsbackup]

@Furiousflea;
Does your Batman Begins backup have audio sync for the main movie?
I can notice a significant audio ahead of video, possibly as much as 250ms on my Region A backup.

[Furiousflea]

@Furiousflea;
Does your Batman Begins backup have audio sync for the main movie?
I can notice a significant audio ahead of video, possibly as much as 250ms on my Region A backup.

Yes it does appear out of synch, mine is Region B but I believe they are all the same between regions in this case.

It appears out of synch with and without PiP enabled.

I believe this has been discussed before about this disc, maybe not here but I'm quite sure that the disc has some authroing messups to be out of synch and this is exacorbated when enabling PiP due to the extra processing\mixing etc.

[jdobbs]

I don't bother with PiP tracks partly for this reason

My player is set to direct and like all players will not pass Menu/PiP audio on originals either

It would of been great if the BD Spec/Disc incorporated a function that tells the player when to mix (menu's, movie w/PiP etc) and when to do direct (main movie etc) or the players in general were intellegent enough to know Actually it does. There's a register that gets set when secondary is to be mixed. But I guess the player doesn't watch it.

[doffot]

help me ...! problem fast and furious 2009 low bitrate
problem for vc-1 1080i

[Kakashi Sensei]

I don't use any specific settings, tried 2 pass\1 pass experimental\fast\slow\everything really. I don't select strict compliance...

Ummm....Could just be your player? Or your discs?

Dont think its the PS3. when i play back the backup video in TMT3 and PS3 its the same result. Wierd, guess i'll just have to live without a backup for these ones lol.

Might give it one more shot and if its a fail then i give up and on to new movies :) thanks for the info.
KS

[chudm]

Dont think its the PS3. when i play back the backup video in TMT3 and PS3 its the same result. Wierd, guess i'll just have to live without a backup for these ones lol.

Might give it one more shot and if its a fail then i give up and on to new movies :) thanks for the info.
KS

dont think its the ps3, the ps3 its one of the best player i had tested! only had problems with full backup to bd9/5, but full backup to bd25 never had problems!

[SLOVEHEART]

I just tried BD rebuilder - first I tried a reduction of a BD50 to dvd9, the disk that I created was unsupported by my Panasonic BD80 with 24p off. Next I tried a BD25 output, it was playable, but there are many lines of green letters on the upper left hand part of the screen that do not go away, how can these be gotten rid of, what setting controls this - or are these just part of the output?

[setarip_old]

@SLOVEHEART

Hi!

1) What is the title of your original BluRay disc?

2) What software and procedures did you use to rip it?

3) Please post the EXACT "many lines of green lettering" that appear

[jdobbs]

Just done Resident Evil Degeneration...That also has the "Freezing"...

I've noticed that ALL Warner Bros PiP discs work Perfectly...

Anything else has the freezing.

Updated working\non working...

Fully working PiP discs...(All AC3+) These are all Warner Bros discs except RE Extinction...

The Matrix
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Constantine
Resident Evil Extinction (screen gems)
Batman Begins

Discs freeze at PiP point... These are Dreamworks\Universal\other.

The Day The Earth Stood Still
Kung Fu Panda
Wall-E
Resident Evil Degeneration
Added Pinnochio


I've noticed that the Warner Bros discs are all in a set style in terms of structure most likely due to being clones of their HDDVD counterparts, they don't have anything crazy like more than 1 PiP video track and all have AC3+ for audio...

jdobbs there must be some bug somewhere, maybe have a look at the differences between Warner Bros discs and others and see if you can find anything?....good luck :) Could you check something for me? Can you open up the original source on the ones that don't work with BDEdit and see if they all have Interactive Graphics on them? (IG)

I've found a disc that freezes like you described when it hits the PiP (Star Trek, the original series, Season 1, Disc 1). It has IG (which as far as I can tell isn't supported by TSMUXER). My copy of "Day the Earth Stood Still" doesn't have it, and (as I've mentioned) it works fine on my player. I'm looking to see if yours is different.

Kinda grasping at straws... :)

[SLOVEHEART]

@SLOVEHEART

Hi!

1) What is the title of your original BluRay disc?

2) What software and procedures did you use to rip it?

3) Please post the EXACT "many lines of green lettering" that appear
setarip:

1) the international (usa) BD50 used anydvdhd to rip to hard drive

2)bd rebuilder, I have installed all tools that come with bd rebuilder, the latest ffdshow, markosi splitter, avi snth latest.

I used one pass encoding (high speed encoding (for bd25))
kept hd for bd25, didn't use trellis encoding, didn't downmix dts to ac3, kept all languages and subtitles.

3)the green lettering may be due to checking verbose status reporting?

it starts after loading during trailers, then stops and restarts when movie begins to play. it seems to be file and settings information, the beginnings of the lines are cut off on my panasonic viera 46 pz85u 1080p tv, so I will post what is legable:

xx.xx%
? size:1920x1080
? size:1920x1080
? description: AVC(libavcodec h264)
?:libavcodec h264
FPS:23.976
? file name: 00011.m2ts
?file:C:\jeff's documents\anydvdhd\volume id\bdmv\stream\00011.m2ts
? aspect ratio SAR:1/1, DAR:16/9
/size and aspect ratio: 1920x1080 SAR:1/1, DAR 16/9

how does one get encoding w/o these details in upper lefthand corner?:(

[tekmobile]

setarip:

1) the international (usa) BD50 used anydvdhd to rip to hard drive

2)bd rebuilder, I have installed all tools that come with bd rebuilder, the latest ffdshow, markosi splitter, avi snth latest.

I used one pass encoding (high speed encoding (for bd25))
kept hd for bd25, didn't use trellis encoding, didn't downmix dts to ac3, kept all languages and subtitles.

3)the green lettering may be due to checking verbose status reporting?

it starts after loading during trailers, then stops and restarts when movie begins to play. it seems to be file and settings information, the beginnings of the lines are cut off on my panasonic viera 46 pz85u 1080p tv, so I will post what is legable:

xx.xx%
? size:1920x1080
? size:1920x1080
? description: AVC(libavcodec h264)
?:libavcodec h264
FPS:23.976
? file name: 00011.m2ts
?file:C:\jeff's documents\anydvdhd\volume id\bdmv\stream\00011.m2ts
? aspect ratio SAR:1/1, DAR:16/9
/size and aspect ratio: 1920x1080 SAR:1/1, DAR 16/9

how does one get encoding w/o these details in upper lefthand corner?:(

Do you have OSD selected in FFDshow and its nothing to do with verbose status reporting defently some setting in your decoder

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8601/ffdq.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/ffdq.jpg/)

[SLOVEHEART]

Do you have OSD selected in FFDshow and its nothing to do with verbose status reporting defently some setting in your decoder

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8601/ffdq.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/ffdq.jpg/)


YES I did have it selected, I am not very knowledgable about ffdshow, do you think this is the reason it showed up in the output? I thought it meant that ffdshow would show on desktop when in use. the items selected in the second window seem to correspond to the green lettering that showed up on the output...should i uncheck both OSD boxes???

Thanks for the help...

[tekmobile]

YES I did have it selected, I am not very knowledgable about ffdshow, do you think this is the reason it showed up in the output? I thought it meant that ffdshow would show on desktop when in use. the items selected in the second window seem to correspond to the green lettering that showed up on the output...should i uncheck both OSD boxes???

Thanks for the help...

Yes what they do is overlay the selected content onto the decoded video therefore this also gets reencoded and appears on the output from BD-rebuilder

[SLOVEHEART]

Yes what they do is overlay the selected content onto the decoded video therefore this also gets reencoded and appears on the output from BD-rebuilder

okay great, I learned something, I know ffdshow is used when i use moviemaker to encode dvr-ms files to dvd output, however the tray icon is blue rather than red, i guess that means it is the audio encoder rather than the video encoder... anyway thanks for your help - i appreciate the effort and time to assess a fairly stupid mistake. thanks again...

[tekmobile]

okay great, I learned something, I know ffdshow is used when i use moviemaker to encode dvr-ms files to dvd output, however the tray icon is blue rather than red, i guess that means it is the audio encoder rather than the video encoder... anyway thanks for your help - i appreciate the effort and time to assess a fairly stupid mistake. thanks again...

Yes the blue icon is the audio decoder and the red is the video decoder

We all make mistakes thats how you learn

[Capsbackup]

Could you check something for me? Can you open up the original source on the ones that don't work with BDEdit and see if they all have Interactive Graphics on them? (IG)
:)

Where with BDEdit would this IG be displayed?
I am checking Beowulf, Region A, NTSC, but not sure which column to look for it. BDMV, Playlist or Clipinf do not show IG, so maybe this disc does not have it.

EDIT:
Is it just me, or does BDEdit's values not align/fit within the display boxes?

[cruisinxx7]

Using BDRebuild 0.25.04, can't encode AVP2.

[23:29:17] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: AVP2
- Input BD size: 25.25 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:41:05.016]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:29:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:29:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file H:\WORKFILES\00010+00050+00011+00051+00012+00052+00013+00053+00014+00054+00015+00055+00016+00056+00017+00057+00018+00058+00019+00059+00020+00060+00021+00061+00022+00062+00023+00063+00024+00064+00025+00065+00026+00066+00027+00067+00028+00068+00029+00069.track_4352.dts
[23:29:17] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

The problem is likely the fact that it's trying to create a file that is 268 characters long (including the path). Vista only allows full path/file lengths of 260 characters. I specified the root of a drive as the working path so I can't make the path any smaller.

[deank]

Where with BDEdit would this IG be displayed?
I am checking Beowulf, Region A, NTSC, but not sure which column to look for it. BDMV, Playlist or Clipinf do not show IG, so maybe this disc does not have it.

EDIT:
Is it just me, or does BDEdit's values not align/fit within the display boxes?

If you're using large fonts (like I do) BDEdit texts won't fit :( and is hard to read sometimes:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/bde-igs.jpg

Go to Playlist tab, select the movie playlist (you may need to click 'read') then take a look on the right where you see the "STN" groupbox:

Vid/Aud/PGs/IGs/sVid/sAud/pid

Video, Audio, Presentation graphics (subtitles), Interactive graphics (menu), Secondary video, Secondary audio...

Dean

[Capsbackup]

@deank;
Thanks deank, and yes large fonts are necessary for me, and 1.5 for my eye glasses. :(

@jdobbs;
The movie Bewoulf has 0 below the column for IG, as well as the other columns, except Vi has a 1.

[jdobbs]

@deank;
Thanks deank, and yes large fonts are necessary for me, and 1.5 for my eye glasses. :(

@jdobbs;
The movie Bewoulf has 0 below the column for IG, as well as the other columns, except Vi has a 1. That's a little odd. That means there is no audio -- which probably means you aren't looking at the main-movie. I'm not sure if you are familiar with BDEdit, but there is a dropdown box under xxxxx.mpls that lets you select from all the playlists. You have to step through them until you find the one that represents the movie w/PiP. Each time you select an MPLS the attributes change.

[Capsbackup]

That's a little odd. That means there is no audio -- which probably means you aren't looking at the main-movie. I'm not sure if you are familiar with BDEdit, but there is a dropdown box under xxxxx.mpls that lets you select from all the playlists. You have to step through them until you find the one that represents the movie w/PiP. Each time you select an MPLS the attributes change.

I'm sorry, my bad. I did not select the main movie .mpls. BDInfo shows 00006.mpls and 00008.mpls for the main movie.
BDEdit should be for .00006.mpls:
Vi=1, Au=3, PG=7, IG=0, sV=1, sA=0, PIP=0.
BDEdit for .00008.mpls:
Vi=1, Au=3, PG=6, IG=0, sV=1, sA=0, PIP=0.
I can't blame my eyes for this mistake!! :p

[worknstiff]

Pardon Me,but does anyone here have to use AVCHD Patcher. The first few BD_RBLD movies I did refused to play on my ancient DMP-BD30 unless I ran the patcher on the index.bmmv. I still use it but I don't think it does anything anymore because it doesn't create a index.bdmv.bkup. It used to say patch completed and create a bkup, I think now it just checks the index.bdmv and if it is ok leaves it alone. Does anyone know if this is the case or if it needs to be used anymore? Does it create the chapter play issues I keep having with my full disk backups. Watchmen BD-25 movie only plays but if you hit chapter seek or FF it freezes up the player. I took it to BB and tried multiple players and all freeze up, I have a friend with a PS3and he has the same problem. Is it my Vista OS or the software I have installed or what? Does anyone else have this problem? I have made lots of playable BD-9 movies but for some reason this Watchmen movie only in BD-25 is really a big pain, I have spent 48 Hrs of encoding time and still no love. Ay Carrumba! Please help, I want to move on from this disaster, I can hope when I watch it that it's worth all the hassle. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[deank]

@worknstiff:

If you're using BD-25 as media and full-movie backup you don't need avchd patcher, because you're using blu-ray disc media.

If you're creating movie-only backup then it is different. You can try to use strict avchd mode and remove folders like auxdata and certificate before burning.

Did you try to play the output folder with a software player?

[worknstiff]

Yes it plays in both PDVD & TMT3

[worknstiff]

you know it's confusing when the BD-9 plays but not the real thing. lol

[Adbear]

I may have missed this, but I'm having a problem with a few discs, I'm trying to shrink 'Dr Who Planet of the Dead' and Torchwood Season 2 and 3 to BD25 as full discs, but I can't get it to work, as soon as I choose the BD25 option the main large video files disappear, it works fine with the other 100 plus discs I've done including other TV series discs but not with these.
One thing I have noticed is that when it lists them before I choose the BD 25 option it tells me that the files are '29.97**' with the two asterisks after the frame rate

[chudm]

hey guys im having problems with some extras, when doing full backup to bd-25 on the extras says: Audio/PGS sizing issues, what does this mean?

[tekmobile]

I may have missed this, but I'm having a problem with a few discs, I'm trying to shrink 'Dr Who Planet of the Dead' and Torchwood Season 2 and 3 to BD25 as full discs, but I can't get it to work, as soon as I choose the BD25 option the main large video files disappear, it works fine with the other 100 plus discs I've done including other TV series discs but not with these.
One thing I have noticed is that when it lists them before I choose the BD 25 option it tells me that the files are '29.97**' with the two asterisks after the frame rate

By any chance are these VC-1 1080i

[chudm]

hey jdobbs on this lastest beta i had tried like 3 or 4 blurays withhigh speed encode to bd-25 and noticed some blockiness i hadnt notice before! maybe something its wrong with the lastest x264 codec or something? im redoing those blurays with default settings!

[GaPony]

The faster you go, the more potential for just that occurrence. Slowing down the encode for better quality might be a good idea.

[chudm]

The faster you go, the more potential for just that occurrence. Slowing down the encode for better quality might be a good idea.

yep im doing that, only had this problem with last build high speed (bd 25) was pretty good on the other betas, anyway doing the default encoding :)

[Adbear]

By any chance are these VC-1 1080i
They are, but I've had no issues with other films or TV season discs using VC-1

[mirec412]

may I set in this program own bitrate?

[meadrocks]

I'm trying to do a movie only of Coraline, the 3D title though. The Alternate Playlist has 4 playlists though. How would I go about 'previewing' the 4 playlists to see which 1 is the 1 I want?

[worknstiff]

FWIW,I just got thru with a final attempt at Watchmen. I finally decided to do a custom target size of 15900 in BD_RBLD. That setting gave me a target size of 15.53 GB and returned an actual size of 15.32 GB. The file plays fine on PC. I used tsMuxeR v1.8.4 to split file into 2 BD-9 files and build bluray structure plus chapters every 5 minutes, also ran AVCHD.Patcher to complete the file for burning. After burning the chapters still freeze up my BD-30 player, go figure.I have burned lots of other BD-9 copys but this one is a piece of work. Oh well at least it plays.

[jdobbs]

yep im doing that, only had this problem with last build high speed (bd 25) was pretty good on the other betas, anyway doing the default encoding :) It's just the difference between one disc and another. There hasn't been any huge changes in that area in X264. It depends on size and complexity (action, water scenes, camera panning, etc.). I'd say the high-speed mode is pretty much safe for almost any movie-only encode... but when you start getting into discs with lots of extras, you need to start moving up the quality ladder.

[jdobbs]

I may have missed this, but I'm having a problem with a few discs, I'm trying to shrink 'Dr Who Planet of the Dead' and Torchwood Season 2 and 3 to BD25 as full discs, but I can't get it to work, as soon as I choose the BD25 option the main large video files disappear, it works fine with the other 100 plus discs I've done including other TV series discs but not with these.
One thing I have noticed is that when it lists them before I choose the BD 25 option it tells me that the files are '29.97**' with the two asterisks after the frame rate That means they are VC-1 field-based interlaced files. There is currently no decoder for that type, and it is removed from the process list because they have to be copied intact. If you are going to output to BD-5/9 they have to be blanked (because their bitrate is too high for intact copying).

1080i isn't the issue, 90%+ of all 1080i sources will work fine. It's only VC-1 1080i that is field based (rather than frame based) is what make these type of sources distinct. the "29.97**" is BD-RB's way of telling you it has found files with issues. Hopefully some day soon there will be a directshow codec that can handle those files.

[KarstenS]

Problems with the movie "Identity". I tried first full backup. Then movie only. First of movie only I tried German AC3. Second try was with Geman PCM. Always I get the same Error for the file with main movie.

BD-REBUILDER.LOG

-----------------------
[21:09:14] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 28,20 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:30:02.396]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
[21:09:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:09:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Unexpected byte
[21:11:57] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[21:50:50] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 28,20 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:30:02.396]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
[21:50:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:50:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Unexpected byte
[21:52:42] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID.INF

[Status]
LABEL=LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
VERSION=v0.25.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30276532224
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30276532224
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=.151312855452068
RESIZE_1080=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;ger;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
[00066]
AUDIO=00000100
PGS=11111111111101111111110000000000


AUD_00066.meta

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_LPCM, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS", track=4357, lang=deu,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=eng,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4609,lang=fra,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4610,lang=deu,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4611,lang=nld,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4612,lang=ara,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4613,lang=ces,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4614,lang=dan,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4615,lang=fin,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4616,lang=ell,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4617,lang=heb,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4618,lang=hin,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4619,lang=hun,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4621,lang=nor,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4622,lang=pol,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4623,lang=swe,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4624,lang=tur,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4625,lang=zho,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4626,lang=kor,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4627,lang=tha,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4628,lang=spa,mplsFile=00065
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BDMV\STREAM\00066.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4629,lang=por,mplsFile=00065

[Sharc]

@KarstenS
BD-RB fails with the extraction of certain subtitles when resizing to 720p is enabled.
Until this is fixed, you may either disable the resizing to 720, or unselect the subtitle(s).

[jdobbs]

@KarstenS
BD-RB fails with the extraction of certain subtitles when resizing to 720p is enabled.
Until this is fixed, you may either disable the resizing to 720, or unselect the subtitle(s). Do we have any idea what it is in the .meta that causes the error?

[mouw]

v25.04 Movie Only -> BD-25 (24300) Highest Quality - Keep HD Audio
Patriot has 2- m2ts files (41GB) Encode choked
v23.02 tried again -- Encode stops - Display won't come-up (same as B4)
Vista x64 new Computer == disabled PowerOff Display 20min (leave it ON)
reStarted v23.02 and it CONTINUED from where it left OFF
Encode COMPLETED good == Custom size 24300 = 24700+ final product

v25.04 doing Predator-2 now (Movie Only = same as above) looks good so far

[Sharc]

Do we have any idea what it is in the .meta that causes the error?
Not really, but apparently some subtitles do not cause the problem, and some do. I didn't find the reason for the different behaviour.
As far as I know it is no longer necessary to explicitly specify the resizing for the subtitles in the .meta because tsmuxer itself does it by default ("same sizing as movie"). I cannot try myself now because I am away from home.

[KarstenS]

@KarstenS
BD-RB fails with the extraction of certain subtitles when resizing to 720p is enabled.
Until this is fixed, you may either disable the resizing to 720, or unselect the subtitle(s).

Thanks for the workaround. I'll try that.

[drmih]

That means they are VC-1 field-based interlaced files. There is currently no decoder for that type, and it is removed from the process list because they have to be copied intact. If you are going to output to BD-5/9 they have to be blanked (because their bitrate is too high for intact copying).

1080i isn't the issue, 90%+ of all 1080i sources will work fine. It's only VC-1 1080i that is field based (rather than frame based) is what make these type of sources distinct. the "29.97**" is BD-RB's way of telling you it has found files with issues. Hopefully some day soon there will be a directshow codec that can handle those files.

I thought we may see a few posts like this, hence the thread I started about BBC HD blu-rays. There is a tweak which was detailed in a thread by Turbojet. I know he fell out of favour / shot himself in the foot, but the thread is quite useful and I thought it used to be in this folder.

[drmih]

I may have missed this, but I'm having a problem with a few discs, I'm trying to shrink 'Dr Who Planet of the Dead' and Torchwood Season 2 and 3 to BD25 as full discs, but I can't get it to work, as soon as I choose the BD25 option the main large video files disappear, it works fine with the other 100 plus discs I've done including other TV series discs but not with these.
One thing I have noticed is that when it lists them before I choose the BD 25 option it tells me that the files are '29.97**' with the two asterisks after the frame rate

There is a solution to handle the BBC HD blu-rays but it takes some fiddling. The thread, including links, was started by turbojet.

[Furiousflea]

There is a solution to handle the BBC HD blu-rays but it takes some fiddling. The thread, including links, was started by turbojet.

Yep, to find the thread you have to do a seach through google as it's expired.

jdobbs - sorry haven't reported back on the IG field in bdedit for those nonworking discs. Have been pretty busy but will do so shortly.

[jdobbs]

There is a solution to handle the BBC HD blu-rays but it takes some fiddling. The thread, including links, was started by turbojet. I assume you mean this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924)

[mouw]

following up on my last post 7 up
v25.04-Movie Only-Predator2-Highest Quality-Custom 24300-Keep HD audio
Encode again STOPS -- Screen Freeze-- actually NO screen
ReBoot computer-- StartUp again-- CONTINUES at beginning of 2/2 Encode (2nd Encode)
Appears to have Stopped between 1st & 2nd passes
only thing i have other than DEFAULT settings=
SHOW_ENCODER=1 (x264 DOS screen is active)
FORCE_BLURAY=1

[chudm]

did iron maiden with highest quality settings and trellis to bd 25 full backup (total content its around 3:30) but i get some blockiness sometimes only happens this with the newest beta, cause even on movies like matrix with high speed to bd25 never saw any blockiness (at least until beta 25.01), its this only hapenning to me?

[Furiousflea]

did iron maiden with highest quality settings and trellis to bd 25 full backup (total content its around 3:30) but i get some blockiness sometimes only happens this with the newest beta, cause even on movies like matrix with high speed to bd25 never saw any blockiness (at least until beta 25.01), its this only hapenning to me?

Trouble with your posts on this "blocking" issue is that there are variables other than the different version of BDRB at play. Do a backup with version X, then do the SAME backup with version Y and let us know the results.

It's no good comparing different discs with different versions, doesn't give any concrete information. Blocking is common on the highspeed BD25 mode from what I can tell although your not using that now so thats one thing out the way. The "Iron Maiden" disc may well have the blocking on the original and so on.

[chudm]

yep ill redo the discs on the weekeng with severals versions and will let you know :)

[chudm]

got this error with full backup to bd25 v25.04: with madagascar 2

[20:25:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00003.meta
- Matroska parser: read error at pos 1161519104
[20:26:49] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[Jake802]

Hey guys! I recently installed the latest version of BDRebuilder. I can't get it to work. I am trying to backup Watchmen, the first thing I noticed it wont let me add the 3rd Audio Track It says...
XAUD_003 (2nd) DTS-HD, Stereo, English

Then when I goto run i get nothing it just sits there....

-----------------------
[22:55:51] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:55:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:55:53] Reencoding: VID_00524 (1 of 50)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[22:57:14]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[22:59:26] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:59:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:59:27] Reencoding: VID_00524 (1 of 50)

Ive never had these issues what the heck am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Jake

SORRY GUYS forgot to mention I am trying Full Backup Custom Size,I did just notice when I do movie only I dont have any issues at all? Any ideas why?

I take that back that failed too....
-----------------------
[23:06:19] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 30.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:08:01.770]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:06:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:06:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [23:16:18] Reencoding: VID_00500 (1 of 25)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[23:19:28] - Failed video encode, aborted

[setarip_old]

Hi![22:59:26] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:59:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:59:27] Reencoding: VID_00524 (1 of 50)Whe you say, "It just sits there", it's quite likely that it's simply processing a large video - perhaps the main movie. Did you look at the bottom of the window to see if the number of frames was changing (as well as the "ETA")?

[Jake802]

Yea nothing changes it literally just sits there one of the times it came up encoding failed. But for the most part it just sits there.

[Capsbackup]

@Jake802;
The reason the 3rd audio track can't be added is you need to enable the PiP option with "PROCESS_SECONDARY=1" set in the INI. It is the secondary audio track for the PiP video track.( see the changes log ) BD-RB cannot decode DTS Express though.
This is not the issue though. The Watchman is VC-1, so you need to have Windows Media Player 11 and/or ffdshow decoder set correctly, I think VC-1 to wmv9.( worked for me )

[Jake802]

I tried like you said I got nothing! Thanks!

[Sharc]

@Jake802:
Is your video in VC-1 format?
If so, it may be field based interlaced for which there is still no free decoder available. Or worse even when VC-1 has some hybrid content of progressive and interlaced mix. I am not sure if DB-RB would copy intact (BD25) or blank (BD5,9) hybrid VC-1 content. If not, x264 may just abort.

[Jake802]

Thanks! I am thinking it is something to do with the disc itself. I just tried Green Lantern and that appears to be working I stopped it but got this far....

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[01:26:15] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: GREEN_LANTERN_FIRST_FLIGHT
- Input BD size: 16.61 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:52:05.124]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[01:26:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:26:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [01:26:19] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [01:26:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [01:26:43] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [01:26:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [01:26:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [01:26:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
[01:27:00]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

[apophis906]

I found something interesting I would like to share. I was trying to make an SD back up of 'Dr Who Planet of the Dead'. All normal ways for decoding would cause the encoder to crash after a few seconds. I found that if I take the m2ts and extract the video and output it as mvk that I can then decode and encode that mkv fine.

[drmih]

SD backup?? If you mean dvd resolution then it seems a bit pointless as it is released as a dvd as well.

[Capsbackup]

I have tested Transformers, region A, NTSC, full backup to BD-25, with keep PiP, burned to BD-RE for playback on Sony BX1. Video freezes after just a few seconds while the counter keeps going when playing the PiP track. If playing the regular movie track, the playback is fine. I do not have any other movies with a Dolby Digital Plus secondary audio track, the rest have DTS Express.
So I was successful with Batman Begins ( except audio is out of sync for the main movie, but PiP video and audio works fine ).
Unsuccessful with Beowulf and Transformers. ( both experience video freezing ) :(

[Kakashi Sensei]

Thanks! I am thinking it is something to do with the disc itself. I just tried Green Lantern and that appears to be working I stopped it but got this far....

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[01:26:15] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: GREEN_LANTERN_FIRST_FLIGHT
- Input BD size: 16.61 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:52:05.124]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[01:26:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:26:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [01:26:19] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [01:26:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [01:26:43] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [01:26:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [01:26:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [01:26:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
[01:27:00]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

Your Green Lantern First Flight bluray doesn't need to be re-encoded the source is smaller then a BD-25 so BD-RB wont do anything with the Video.

[Kakashi Sensei]

I have tested Transformers, region A, NTSC, full backup to BD-25, with keep PiP, burned to BD-RE for playback on Sony BX1. Video freezes after just a few seconds while the counter keeps going when playing the PiP track. If playing the regular movie track, the playback is fine. I do not have any other movies with a Dolby Digital Plus secondary audio track, the rest have DTS Express.
So I was successful with Batman Begins ( except audio is out of sync for the main movie, but PiP video and audio works fine ).
Unsuccessful with Beowulf and Transformers. ( both experience video freezing ) :(

Make sure you have the right FFDshow version installed. I was pulling my hair out and had freezing/stuttering video and couldn't figure it out. Found out i wasn't using Ver 2661 of FFDShow. Changed to that version and fixed all my problems.

[apophis906]

SD backup?? If you mean dvd resolution then it seems a bit pointless as it is released as a dvd as well.

Yes I know,but I am not going to buy the DVD when I already bought the Blu-ray. My point was in that I had a way to deal with the interlaced VC-1 that worked for me and thought it might help others in some way.

My main point was that I was having trouble with the same title dealing with the interlaced VC-1 and I found a way that I was able to decode it and not have a problem. All I know is that as long as the VC-1 was muxed as an m2ts that it would not work, once it was demuxed into an mkv on its own it decoded just fine.

[Capsbackup]

Make sure you have the right FFDshow version installed. I was pulling my hair out and had freezing/stuttering video and couldn't figure it out. Found out i wasn't using Ver 2661 of FFDShow. Changed to that version and fixed all my problems.

I do not have freezing video on any movies except PiP ones with PiP enabled. All other backups, movie only to BD-5 and full backups to BD-25 are fine. These same backups that don't work with PiP enabled do work properly without PiP enabled. So, for me, I don't believe that this is the issue.

[drmih]

Yes I know,but I am not going to buy the DVD when I already bought the Blu-ray. My point was in that I had a way to deal with the interlaced VC-1 that worked for me and thought it might help others in some way.

My main point was that I was having trouble with the same title dealing with the interlaced VC-1 and I found a way that I was able to decode it and not have a problem. All I know is that as long as the VC-1 was muxed as an m2ts that it would not work, once it was demuxed into an mkv on its own it decoded just fine.

But I think that this would only work if you are doing the movie only - I may be wrong. You can happily handle the discs using MakeMKV which will extract all of the tracks to mkv to process as you like but it was really the ability to make a blu-ray copy of the disc in entirety that is problemetic without switching codecs.
I still haven't got a clue why you're going to SD as the logic is that you could re-encode to a dvd-5 HD version.

[drmih]

@jdobbs

Is it possible to change the programme so that the message 'Audio and / or PGS size too large...' just records a warning? I am finding plenty of discs, particularly BBC ones, where there are lots of small files (~5Mb) which trigger this but still give a disc under the capacity if ignored. However, the programme just sits there waiting for you to click 'Yes' or 'No' which is a real pain if you set something going overnight.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Is it possible to change the programme so that the message 'Audio and / or PGS size too large...' just records a warning? I am finding plenty of discs, particularly BBC ones, where there are lots of small files (~5Mb) which trigger this but still give a disc under the capacity if ignored. However, the programme just sits there waiting for you to click 'Yes' or 'No' which is a real pain if you set something going overnight. But it isn't just a warning. It is telling you that with the audio/sub selections you have made there is no room for the video...

I think you are saying that you are getting this on small files only. If so, I would suggest you select "Quicker Encode for Extras" -- as it uses a CRF value to encode and the smaller encodes aren't tied to the required size. It is adjusted with the main movie is encoded.

[apophis906]

But I think that this would only work if you are doing the movie only - I may be wrong. You can happily handle the discs using MakeMKV which will extract all of the tracks to mkv to process as you like but it was really the ability to make a blu-ray copy of the disc in entirety that is problemetic without switching codecs.
I still haven't got a clue why you're going to SD as the logic is that you could re-encode to a dvd-5 HD version.

Well the reason for the SD encode is I do not have a Blu-ray player in every room. I want a copy for the bedroom that only has a dvd player and SD tv.

What I was trying to get at was that the VC-1 track was a problem decodoing from the m2ts. That once I demuxed it (which BD Rebuilder does now already) and output that as an mkv, that I was able to decode it with directshow just like any other video codec would be done in BD Rebuilder. My whole point in bringing this up is that their might be something to it. That its possible once the video track is demuxed into an mvk that it can be decoded for re-encoded into a BD-9 or BD-25. What I was trying to point out, was how it was said that the problem with the interlaced VC-1 was getting a reliable decoded. That I had found that if I extract the video out into an mvk that an interlaced VC-1 that was causing troulble, stops causing trouble and works fine.

[drmih]

But it isn't just a warning. It is telling you that with the audio/sub selections you have made there is no room for the video...

I think you are saying that you are getting this on small files only. If so, I would suggest you select "Quicker Encode for Extras" -- as it uses a CRF value to encode and the smaller encodes aren't tied to the required size. It is adjusted with the main movie is encoded.

I don't really want to use quick encode as I want the best quality possible. What I'm saying is that I've never had an instance where the files haven't fitted but I have to manually hit 'yes' ten or so times. Therefore I can't just leave the encode to proceed - that also brings up the question of batching as it'd be great to queue them as a typical disc takes 4 hours. All I would like is the option to 'continue with warnings'.

[drmih]

Well the reason for the SD encode is I do not have a Blu-ray player in every room. I want a copy for the bedroom that only has a dvd player and SD tv.

What I was trying to get at was that the VC-1 track was a problem decodoing from the m2ts. That once I demuxed it (which BD Rebuilder does now already) and output that as an mkv, that I was able to decode it with directshow just like any other video codec would be done in BD Rebuilder. My whole point in bringing this up is that their might be something to it. That its possible once the video track is demuxed into an mvk that it can be decoded for re-encoded into a BD-9 or BD-25. What I was trying to point out, was how it was said that the problem with the interlaced VC-1 was getting a reliable decoded. That I had found that if I extract the video out into an mvk that an interlaced VC-1 that was causing troulble, stops causing trouble and works fine.

Well it's probably not the wrapper so it would be worth trying using tsmuxer to output a new m2ts file and then put it back into the blu-ray structure and see what happens, or convert to mkv and then back again. It seem strange as I don't think that x264 checks the file before attempting the encode as it usually goes wrong sometime during the encode.

[apophis906]

Well it's probably not the wrapper so it would be worth trying using tsmuxer to output a new m2ts file and then put it back into the blu-ray structure and see what happens, or convert to mkv and then back again. It seem strange as I don't think that x264 checks the file before attempting the encode as it usually goes wrong sometime during the encode.

Yeah I have no idea what could be doing it. I just thought bringing up what I had found might help out some. To be honest I dont see how doing it into an mvk over its original m2ts actually makes it so it can be decoded, just that it does. Just another one of those weird things with interlaced VC-1 I guess.

I just tested and muxed the mvk into a blu-ray m2ts. It did the same thing as it did in the original m2ts. Not sure why its doing that, working as an mvk but not as an m2ts.

[chudm]

btw guys had problems ripping madagascar 2 on 25.04, had problems with meta files and that stuff, anyway today i did it wit 25.01 and worked perfect! i think ill stick to 25.01 at least for now :D

[jdobbs]

I found something interesting I would like to share. I was trying to make an SD back up of 'Dr Who Planet of the Dead'. All normal ways for decoding would cause the encoder to crash after a few seconds. I found that if I take the m2ts and extract the video and output it as mvk that I can then decode and encode that mkv fine. Thanks for the tip. This is an excellent piece of information. I just tried the same thing and it worked on a title that I haven't been able to encode since I first started this program. I may have to work on it a little --- but it looks like this may turn out to be the solution I've been looking for.


:goodpost:

[jdobbs]

btw guys had problems ripping madagascar 2 on 25.04, had problems with meta files and that stuff, anyway today i did it wit 25.01 and worked perfect! i think ill stick to 25.01 at least for now :D That's exactly what I DON'T want people to do. Which is the reason that version will soon timeout.

But thanks for the report. At least now I can see what the differences are.

Can you post the contents of the .META file from 25.01 that worked and the one from 25.04 that didn't?

[jdobbs]

I found something interesting I would like to share. I was trying to make an SD back up of 'Dr Who Planet of the Dead'. All normal ways for decoding would cause the encoder to crash after a few seconds. I found that if I take the m2ts and extract the video and output it as mvk that I can then decode and encode that mkv fine. Can you tell me what software you are using to convert to MKV? I tried it with MakeMKV and it worked -- but I want to use something that is clearly freeware or GNU and doesn't timeout.

[apophis906]

Thanks for the tip. This is an excellent piece of information. I just tried the same thing and it worked on a title that I haven't been able to encode since I first started this program. I may have to work on it a little --- but it looks like this may turn out to be the solution I've been looking for.


:goodpost:

wow your very welcome. I am glad I could help. I really enjoy this program, and have enjoyed DVD Rebuilder for years.:)

While I have you I noticed one other thing. When encoding any 480 thats 4:3 when its played back on a PS3 its stretched to 16:9. I found that if I copy the lastcmd and change the SAR from 8:9 to 10:11. That the video will then play the file back as 4:3 on the PS3 and not be stretched to 16:9.

[apophis906]

Can you tell me what software you are using to convert to MKV? I tried it with MakeMKV and it worked -- but I want to use something that is clearly freeware or GNU and doesn't timeout.

the latest version of eac3to. mvkinfo shows Muxing application: Haali DirectShow Matroska Muxer 1.9.42.1

[chudm]

That's exactly what I DON'T want people to do. Which is the reason that version will soon timeout.

But thanks for the report. At least now I can see what the differences are.

Can you post the contents of the .META file from 25.01 that worked and the one from 25.04 that didn't?

ill redoit again! cause i formatted that hard drive today, i dont know why but i have the sensation on this lastest beta that i can see more blockiness even with threllis algorithm and high quality settings!, this weekeng ill test some discs and will let you know!

ill do the bourne trilogy :)

[drmih]

Can I just add something into the mix. I have just found that my vc-1 tweak is no longer working on Vista 64 - regardless of the setting in ffdshow the programme picks up x264. On the BBC titles I'm testing this caused the usual crash. It may be that I need to reinstall TMT2 etc. However, to see if it was anything to do with 25.04 I tried 24.02 to resume the job (I know about the issues with going back) and although x264 was picked up the same, the version isn't crashing (so far) with the stream (which is definately shown with two **).

[jdobbs]

All,

Thanks to some insight from apophis906, I'll be including MKVMERGE in the next release (hopefully this weekend) and the dreaded "no directshow filter for field-based interlacing" problem will be gone... no more blanking necessary. I just did some testing on previously "unreencodable" sources -- and they're working. No need for tweaks, no need for TMT2, just smooth sailing. This very definitely rocks!

@apophis906 :thanks:

Now, if I can only get that annoying PiP problem corrected...

[tekmobile]

All,

Thanks to some insight from apophis906, I'll be including MKVMERGE in the next release (hopefully this weekend) and the dreaded "no directshow filter for field-based interlacing" problem will be gone... no more blanking necessary. I just did some testing on previously "unreencodable" sources -- and they're working. No need for tweaks, no need for TMT2, just smooth sailing. This very definitely rocks!

@apophis906 :thanks:

Now, if I can only get that annoying PiP problem corrected...

This is great news will you be now processing all video this way or just VC-1 1080i.

[Jake802]

I realize my Green Lantern BluRay doesnt need to be done. The point I was making was I ran it through the program and the program actually ran it didnt just sit there so I figured it was something to do with Watchmen. Thanks Though!

[jdobbs]

This is great news will you be now processing all video this way or just VC-1 1080i. It adds an additional unneeded step for other video, so only VC-1 field based interlaced (the ones with issues) will be converted.

[jdobbs]

I realize my Green Lantern BluRay doesnt need to be done. The point I was making was I ran it through the program and the program actually ran it didnt just sit there so I figured it was something to do with Watchmen. Thanks Though! I picked up Watchmen a couple of days ago but haven't had time to test it yet. I'll run it tonight.

[jdobbs]

While I have you I noticed one other thing. When encoding any 480 thats 4:3 when its played back on a PS3 its stretched to 16:9. I found that if I copy the lastcmd and change the SAR from 8:9 to 10:11. That the video will then play the file back as 4:3 on the PS3 and not be stretched to 16:9. Is 10:11 the correct setting? I thought that was for 704x480 sources and 8:9 was for 720x480... Does it always stretch or is this something on one particular disc?

[nelly09]

i just did another movie to bd25 with 25.04 beta, Man On Fire and there is an audio sync problem. this is the 3rd movie ive done that has this audio problem, its fine at the beginning then like 15 minutes into it there is audio lag for like 2 seconds throughout the rest of the movie, i just use default settings on everything. I was wondering if there is anything i need to change for settings to prevent this from happening? i have done several movies that played flawlessly, just wanted to know if its the movie or am i doing something wrong with the bd rebuilder program?

[Capsbackup]

I picked up Watchmen a couple of days ago but haven't had time to test it yet. I'll run it tonight.

Watchman has two .mpls, 00101.mpls which is 3:08:01 long and includes the bonus features.
00100.mpls is 3:06:28 and is the movie only.
Just need to make sure you select the correct .mpls for the movie only, since BD-RB will default to the longer version, which is NOT the one to use for movie only.
I did not try a full backup of this disc, but the movie only BD-9 looked really good. :)

[Capsbackup]

i just did another movie to bd25 with 25.04 beta, Man On Fire and there is an audio sync problem. this is the 3rd movie ive done that has this audio problem, its fine at the beginning then like 15 minutes into it there is audio lag for like 2 seconds throughout the rest of the movie, i just use default settings on everything. I was wondering if there is anything i need to change for settings to prevent this from happening? i have done several movies that played flawlessly, just wanted to know if its the movie or am i doing something wrong with the bd rebuilder program?

You did not say how you are playing this back, PC or standalone. Is this a movie only or full backup?
Is it a multi .m2ts movie? Does the BD-RB .m2ts play in sync if viewed with MPC?

[nelly09]

i used image burn to make an iso, played it on powerdvd9 and i did a full backup bd25 is there other ways i should be testing this? im sorry i dont know what MPC is

[mech61]

i used image burn to make an iso, played it on powerdvd9 and i did a full backup bd25 is there other ways i should be testing this? im sorry i dont know what MPC is

MPC = Media Player Classic

http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/

[nelly09]

yea i tried it with media player classic, it has the same audio lag problem, is mpc suppposed to be better then powerdvd?

[Capsbackup]

yea i tried it with media player classic, it has the same audio lag problem, is mpc suppposed to be better then powerdvd?

No just an alternative to PDVD to verify both has async. Is this movie a multi .m2ts to make up the movie?
If so, you could try Clownbd with eac3to on the movie, have it generate a new Blu-Ray movie, and then check that output's .m2ts file for audio sync. ( this is for movie only though ) Some multi .m2ts movies can have audio gaps, but I would be suprised that BD-RB did not overcome this.
Does the original have audio sync issues?

[nelly09]

the original does not have any audio sync problems at all. what do you mean by if it is a multi .m2ts to make up the movie? what is clownbd?

[nelly09]

i have also done benjamin button to bd25 bull backup with the same audio sync issue. i also did benjamin button to bd9 "movie only", burned it to a dual layer and played on a ps3 with the same audio sync problem, is there some settings i need to adjust for the backup?

[Jake802]

"Originally Posted by jdobbs View Post
I picked up Watchmen a couple of days ago but haven't had time to test it yet. I'll run it tonight."--Thanks

"Watchman has two .mpls, 00101.mpls which is 3:08:01 long and includes the bonus features. 00100.mpls is 3:06:28 and is the movie only. Just need to make sure you select the correct .mpls for the movie only, since BD-RB will default to the longer version, which is NOT the one to use for movie only. I did not try a full backup of this disc, but the movie only BD-9 looked really good."
I believe I tried this as well and had issues,but I would also prefer a full disc backup.I am trying the movie only to be sure thanks!

Yea I just tried Movie Only again and got the following:

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[23:02:31] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 30.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:08:01.770]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:02:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:02:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [23:10:33] Reencoding: VID_00500 (1 of 25)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.

[apophis906]

Is 10:11 the correct setting? I thought that was for 704x480 sources and 8:9 was for 720x480... Does it always stretch or is this something on one particular disc?

So far every video that is supposed to be 4:3 done with 8:9 is stretched on the PS3 to 16:9. I found 10:11 when I googled trying to figure out why it was always stretching it. This guide (http://www.networkedmediatank.com/wiki/index.php/Encoding_Guide_for_DVD_to_H264) is where I found it list 10:11 as the SAR for NTSC 4:3 720x480. I realized it was the way the video was encoded as I tried using the video file alone with tsMuxer and the outcome was still stretched. For some reason when i put that SAR of 10:11 in, the video always played correctly in the PS3. I checked this on two different ones to be sure it was not just the PS3, 8:9 stretched on both of them and 10:11 did not.

[Capsbackup]

@Jake802;
You are not selecting the correct playlist. Select "Mode" in BD-RB and then select "Alternate Movie-Only Playlist"., and select the shorter one ( 3:06:28 ). The .m2ts order should be 00500.m2ts, 00501.m2ts, 00502.m2ts, 00503, etc.. to 00524.m2ts.
Watchmen is VC-1, so you need to have ffdshow configured to decode it correctly. WMP 11 may also help for this.

[Capsbackup]

the original does not have any audio sync problems at all. what do you mean by if it is a multi .m2ts to make up the movie? what is clownbd?

Check your original with BDInfo, and you will see 1 or more .m2ts files for the main movie.(http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/File-CD-DVD-Catalog/BDInfo.shtml)
Clownbd is just an alternative tool to try if you have a multi .m2ts movie. BD-RB should be all you need, but you could try (http://www.clownbd.com/) clownbd just to see if it will make a difference.

[Jake802]

@Jake802;
You are not selecting the correct playlist. Select "Mode" in BD-RB and then select "Alternate Movie-Only Playlist"., and select the shorter one ( 3:06:28 ). The .m2ts order should be 00500.m2ts, 00501.m2ts, 00502.m2ts, 00503, etc.. to 00524.m2ts.
Watchmen is VC-1, so you need to have ffdshow configured to decode it correctly. WMP 11 may also help for this.

I tried both 1st:
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[23:53:41] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 30.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:08:01.770]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Encoding cancelled.
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[23:54:05] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 30.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:08:01.770]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:54:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:54:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [00:02:48] Reencoding: VID_00500 (1 of 25)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[00:05:54]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

2nd:
[00:06:49] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 32.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:06:28.385]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[00:06:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:06:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [00:15:02] Reencoding: VID_00500 (1 of 25)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[00:18:00]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

I thought I had ffdshow configured correctly, could you tell me what I need to do?

[jbecerril]

I've been having a problem with Fast and Furious. This is the first movie that I've had problems with. Downloaded BD-RB 25.04 beta and I just finished doing Curious Case of Benjamin Button in BD-25, no problems at all. I am runing windows 7 build 72.01. This is the issue:

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[00:22:16] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: FAST_AND_FURIOUS
- Input BD size: 45.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:40.004]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[00:22:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:22:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00238]
- [00:22:18] Reencoding: VID_00238 (1 of 15)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[00:25:20] - Failed video encode, aborted

[GaPony]

What settings are you using?

[Sharc]

It adds an additional unneeded step for other video, so ony VC-1 field based interlaced (the ones with issues).
Will the .mkv workaround also help with hybrid progressive / interlaced VC-1 sources (as often found in the Extras)? That would be great.

(Is there a specific reason why not to use eac3to for the conversion? It has solved audio sync issues which I posted in the past)

[tekmobile]

I've been having a problem with Fast and Furious. This is the first movie that I've had problems with. Downloaded BD-RB 25.04 beta and I just finished doing Curious Case of Benjamin Button in BD-25, no problems at all. I am runing windows 7 build 72.01. This is the issue:

-----------------------
[00:22:16] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: FAST_AND_FURIOUS
- Input BD size: 45.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:40.004]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[00:22:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:22:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00238]
- [00:22:18] Reencoding: VID_00238 (1 of 15)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[00:25:20] - Failed video encode, aborted

This movie has lots of interlaced VC1 files and by lots I mean 99% of the extras currently there is no way for BD-RB to do these and leaving untouched uses most of the BD25 leaving no room for the movie.

There may have been a solution found if you dont mind waiting for the next version hopefully in a couple of days.

[jdobbs]

i just did another movie to bd25 with 25.04 beta, Man On Fire and there is an audio sync problem. this is the 3rd movie ive done that has this audio problem, its fine at the beginning then like 15 minutes into it there is audio lag for like 2 seconds throughout the rest of the movie, i just use default settings on everything. I was wondering if there is anything i need to change for settings to prevent this from happening? i have done several movies that played flawlessly, just wanted to know if its the movie or am i doing something wrong with the bd rebuilder program?Movie-only or full disc? BD-5/9 or BD-25? Are you keeping HD audio? DTS or AC3? Are you reencoding to AC3?

[jdobbs]

I thought I had ffdshow configured correctly, could you tell me what I need to do? When you configure FFDSHOW, what do you have selected as the decoder for VC-1?

[jdobbs]

This movie has lots of interlaced VC1 files and by lots I mean 99% of the extras currently there is no way for BD-RB to do these and leaving untouched uses most of the BD25 leaving no room for the movie.

There may have been a solution found if you dont mind waiting for the next version hopefully in a couple of days. Are you telling me that it is 99% field-based interlaced? That just sounds really unlikely. If it is normal interlaced, there shouldn't be an issue. If there is an issue, the "**" will be shown next to fps in the source list. If it isn't there, it should decode/reencode without any problems.

[jdobbs]

Will the .mkv workaround also help with hybrid progressive / interlaced VC-1 sources (as often found in the Extras)? That would be great.

(Is there a specific reason why not to use eac3to for the conversion? It has solved audio sync issues which I posted in the past) I don't know -- in hundreds of discs I don't think I've seen a hybrid progressive/interlaced VC-1 source. What I had seen reported before turned out not to be when I scanned the files and found no pulldown flags. It was field-based interlaced. Can you point one out? It would probably end up with audio sync issues...

[tekmobile]

Are you telling me that it is 99% field-based interlaced? That just sounds really unlikely. If it is normal interlaced, there shouldn't be an issue. If there is an issue, the "**" will be shown next to fps in the source list. If it isn't there, it should decode/reencode without any problems.

As far as I can remember apart from a couple of extras then yes they are all like this.

I will rip it again to test the MKV workaround that may have been found.

[jdobbs]

As far as I can remember apart from a couple of extras then yes they are all like this.

I will rip it again to test the MKV workaround that may have been found. Hang on for a while and you can use the new version (probably later today).

[Sharc]

I don't know -- in hundreds of discs I don't think I've seen a hybrid progressive/interlaced VC-1 source. What I had seen reported before turned out not to be when I scanned the files and found no pulldown flags. It was field-based interlaced. Can you point one out? It would probably end up with audio sync issues...
You may perhaps want to try these VC-1 clips - I am not sure about the frame structure, but after all they caused problems unless I decoded them with DG....NV tools:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?rt4djjjjwam
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dg0dmmlziun

[Capsbackup]

@Jake802;
What OS are you using? Is it Windows 7, Vista, XP?
If you are using W7, let us know.
If you have Vista or XP, try installing Windows Media Player 11.
Also, try setting ffdshow video decoder for VC-1 to WMV9.
This worked for me for Watchmen.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Does BD-RB support Windows 7?
I seem to remember reading back a ways BD-RB, and its support software, has not yet supported W7, which, if true, may explain the decode issues of late.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
Does BD-RB support Windows 7?
I seem to remember reading back a ways BD-RB, and its support software, has not yet supported W7, which, if true, may explain the decode issues of late. No. I don't plan to spend any time attempting Windows 7 compatibility until I know Windows 7 isn't the source of potential problems. That probably means when it is actually released.

[jdobbs]

@Jake802;
What OS are you using? Is it Windows 7, Vista, XP?
If you are using W7, let us know.
If you have Vista or XP, try installing Windows Media Player 11.
Also, try setting ffdshow video decoder for VC-1 to WMV9.
This worked for me for Watchmen. I've found that if you have WMP 11 installed it is better to set the decoder to "disabled". That's the only setting that allows the WMV11 codec to be used.

[jdobbs]

You may perhaps want to try these VC-1 clips - I am not sure about the frame structure, but after all they caused problems unless I decoded them with DG....NV tools:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?rt4djjjjwam
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dg0dmmlziun Didn't check the frame structure, but playback/reencoding appears to work with the new MKV conversion procedure. :)

Cool... this has been a sore spot for me for quite some time.

BTW... this makes me suspect that it wasn't the CODEC that was at fault at all. It could be the way Matroska Splitter works with M2TS files. Don't know for sure, as there's always the possibility that the stream in altered in the conversion -- but both the WMV11 and WMV9 CODECs work when the same stream is put into an MKV container, and fails if you put it back into an M2TS.

[tekmobile]

Didn't check the frame structure, but playback/reencoding appears to work with the new MKV conversion procedure. :)

Cool... this has been a sore spot for me for quite some time.

BTW... this makes me suspect that it wasn't the CODEC that was at fault at all. It could be the way Matroska Splitter works with M2TS files. Don't know for sure, as there's always the possibility that the stream in altered in the conversion -- but both the WMV11 and WMV9 CODECs work when the same stream is put into an MKV container, and fails if you put it back into an M2TS.

I wonder if trying to decode the extracted raw VC-1 stream would work the same without putting it into a MKV container don't know if its ever been tried yet but it would save an extra step if its wasn't required.

[jdobbs]

I wonder if trying to decode the extracted raw VC-1 stream would work the same without putting it into a MKV container don't know if its ever been tried yet but it would save an extra step if its wasn't required. I'm not aware of anything that decodes a .vc1 file directly. Of course that doesn't mean it doesn't exist -- just that I haven't seen it (there are more things on heaven and earth than are dreamt of in my philosophy).

[Jake802]

When you configure FFDSHOW, what do you have selected as the decoder for VC-1?

It currently says wmv9? What should it be? Sorry guys I thought I had said earlier I am using Windows 7,I didn't think about it because this is the first time Ive had this type of problem. Win 7 64bit? FFDShow is VC-1 is set to wmv9.

[jdobbs]

I realize my Green Lantern BluRay doesnt need to be done. The point I was making was I ran it through the program and the program actually ran it didnt just sit there so I figured it was something to do with Watchmen. Thanks Though! I'm running "Watchmen" right now -- and there doesn't seem to be any issues...

[jdobbs]

I just posted a link to the newest release of BD-RB (v0.26.01) in the first post of this thread. Changes for this version:- Added MKVMERGE.EXE and supporting code within
BD-RB to enable reencoding of VC-1 field-based
sources, now no BD-5/9 backups will be blanked
automatically, and these streams will be reencoded
rather than copied for BD-25. My thanks to
apophis906 for pointing me in the right direction.
- Corrected a bug in which secondary audio was being
kept even when "PROCESS_SECONDARY=" is set to "0".
- Made changes to the way in which STN tables are
updated when "PROCESS_SECONDARY=" is set to "0".
- Added code to automatically adjust the source path
when someone selects BDMV or STREAM directories.
Some folks who have gotten accustomed to certain
other packages just have a hard time understanding
where the source path BD structure actually starts.
- Corrected an issue in which the type and sample
frequency of removed audio was sometimes not be
updated properly in the STN table of the MPLS.
- Made an additional adjustment to CRF estimation to
make it slightly more accurate.
- Corrected error "00011, PredictandEncode(), 2810"
that can occur on certain sources.
- Changed the SAR on 720x480 and 720x576 sources. It
has reported that the new settings solve widescreen
playback issues.
- Modified the error reporting for "Audio/PGS sizing
Issue" (when the audio/pgs that is kept makes the
output too large to fit what is required). Now it
only is reported on sources greater than 5 minutes.
Others continue with fixed CRF. Note that if you
have a source that consists of a LOT of < 5 minute
sections and you are keeping more audio than should
fit (very unlikely) you may see oversizing.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Jake802]

I'm running "Watchmen" right now -- and there doesn't seem to be any issues...

I dont know what Im doing wrong Ive never had any issues before...oh well!

[chudm]

i did watchmen with 25.04 without problems!, ill try new beta with the bourne trilogy

[jdobbs]

I dont know what Im doing wrong Ive never had any issues before...oh well! Have you upgraded to Windows 7 recently or changed your FFDSHOW settings?

[Jake802]

No I have been on Windows 7. I dont recall changing my FFDShow Settings But I Did a System Restore and it shows I did. I am gonna start by uninstalling FFDShow completely...back track a little I think.

[jbecerril]

Well I still have problems with Fast and Furious no matter what I do. I went to my ffdshow video config to change vc-1 to use decoder wmv9. BD-RB still says Encoding Failed. What are my other options?.

[jdobbs]

Well I still have problems with Fast and Furious no matter what I do. I went to my ffdshow video config to change vc-1 to use decoder wmv9. BD-RB still says Encoding Failed. What are my other options?. Open up the AVS file that fails (with Media Player) and see what error you get. 10 to 1 it's a configuration issue, though. Remove everything, go back to the first post of this thread, download and install specifically the versions of Haali and FFDSHOW that are there, and then reinstall BD-RB.

Then once it's configured and running, don't update or reconfigure Haali or FFDSHOW. That's typically where the problems start. It's also not unusual for "other" software to reconfigure your system without your knowledge when it installs (which is just plain rude).

[jdobbs]

Anyone using Windows 7 -- please read this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924) before posting bug reports. Your issue is very likely to be Windows, not BD-RB -- and as I've said before, when you try to test a beta on a beta, you're just begging for trouble. If your system can't playback the original M2TS files -- then neither can BD-RB for reencoding.

[Jake802]

Anyone using Windows 7 -- please read this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924) before posting bug reports. Your issue is very likely to be Windows, not BD-RB -- and as I've said before, when you try to test a beta on a beta, you're just begging for trouble. If your system can't playback the original M2TS files -- then neither can BD-RB for reencoding.

It's cool! I've been using Windows 7 almost from day one of BD-RB with no issues so that's why I was posting and thought it was odd! Thanks for the look, I'll see what's there!

[nelly09]

Movie-only or full disc? BD-5/9 or BD-25? Are you keeping HD audio? DTS or AC3? Are you reencoding to AC3?

i didnt change any of the settings, im sorry but i dont know what DTS or AC3 is, what difference would it make if i reencoded to AC3? if you could briefly explain that would be great, i did full backup to bd25, and movie only backop to bd9 and both had exact same issues, used beta 25.04, running windows 7

[HWK]

(Bd Rebuilder Log)

[02:51:41] BD Rebuilder v0.26.01 (beta)
- Source: DAT
- Input BD size: 35.08 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:36:44.686]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[02:51:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:51:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [02:51:42] Reencoding: VID_00003 (1 of 22)
- [02:51:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [02:52:00] Reencoding: VID_00007 (2 of 22)
- [02:53:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [02:54:05] Reencoding: VID_00006 (3 of 22)
- [02:55:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [02:56:15] Reencoding: VID_00010 (4 of 22)
- [02:57:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [02:58:05] Reencoding: VID_00017 (5 of 22)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00017.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[02:58:06] - Failed to build structure, aborted

Bd Rebuilder Config

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23000

ENCODE_QUALITY=5
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=F:\THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW\
SOURCE_PATH=G:\

LASTCMD

"C:\Users\-----\BD-RBV02601\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "F:\THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW\WORKFILES\VID_00017.AVS" --crf 23 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --bframes 3 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "F:\THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW\WORKFILES\VID_00017.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output "F:\THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW\WORKFILES\VID_00017.AVS.MKV"


Movie = Day After Tomorrow

Any Ideas what may have caused this ] - This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[02:58:06] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
DB-RB v0.26.01
If the field-based interlaced or hybrid VC-1 video is small enough i.e. not requiring compression to fit on the target, it is copied intact. The .mkv intermediate step is then apparently skipped and playback fails. In such case the .mkv step should be forced -- if my interpretation of the cause of the playback failure is correct.

[daberti]

@jdobbs
Latest beta's exe is recognized by McAfee as Artemis Malware.
Just FYI

For all of the users of McAfee I'd hotly recommend these links:
https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB53735
https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB60999&actp=search&searchid=1249204244621
there are some levels of Artemis protection...
L0 Sets "Very Low" on OAS, ODS and Email scan
L1 Sets "Low" on OAS, ODS and Email scan
And so on (read above pages).
In my Viruscan Plus environment you can tweak the settings by opening the Register Editor and pointing at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\McAfee\VirusScan\Artemis
You just need to tweak OAS, because running BD_Rebuilder won't be done from email ;)
NOTE: this hint is only for advanced users knowing their stuff. That's why I'm not going into a step by step guide ;)

[Jake802]

Installed 3 Different version of FFDShow(not sure in which order I believe 64Bit, 32Bit,& then a multithread version [ffdshow_rev3048_20090731_clsid_icl10] & Then ran the Win7DSFilterTweaker_1.4). I dont know how or why but I am back in business and Watchmen Full Disc appears to be working. Thanks for that post suggestion JDobbs! And again for all your efforts!

[drmih]

@jdobbs

Well done on the latest release. I have just completed a BBC disc which had both the Audio / PGS issue as well as having the main titles interlaced vc-1. No problems and works a dream.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Latest beta's exe is recognized by McAfee as Artemis Malware.
Just FYI

For all of the users of McAfee I'd hotly recommend these links:
https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB53735
https://kc.mcafee.com/corporate/index?page=content&id=KB60999&actp=search&searchid=1249204244621
there are some levels of Artemis protection...
L0 Sets "Very Low" on OAS, ODS and Email scan
L1 Sets "Low" on OAS, ODS and Email scan
And so on (read above pages).
In my Viruscan Plus environment you can tweak the settings by opening the Register Editor and pointing at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\McAfee\VirusScan\Artemis
You just need to tweak OAS, because running BD_Rebuilder won't be done from email ;)
NOTE: this hint is only for advanced users knowing their stuff. That's why I'm not going into a step by step guide ;) It's a false positive. I just recompiled and replaced the .ZIP file. It should be ok now. I wish I could figure out what McAfee is looking for... it seems to randomly show up -- and all I have to do is recompile on a different day to make it go away. From what I've read online, there are apparently other apps getting the same false positive.

[jdobbs]

Changes:- Recompiled to prevent false positive for "Artemis"
in McAfee.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Capsbackup]

Changes:- Recompiled to prevent false positive for "Artemis".
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Interesting that I downloaded BD-RBV02601 and ran a full movie backup last night, it completed successfully, and then auto shutdown. This morning I boot up, and open BD-RB, and McAfee goes off. I did not even see an update from McAfee. This can get a bit frustrating, speaking calmly. :devil:

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
DB-RB v0.26.01
If the field-based interlaced or hybrid VC-1 video is small enough i.e. not requiring compression to fit on the target, it is copied intact. The .mkv intermediate step is then apparently skipped and playback fails. In such case the .mkv step should be forced -- if my interpretation of the cause of the playback failure is correct. I don't think I understand. The only time the MKV step is needed is when the stream is being reencoded to AVC. The MKV is used as the source in AVISYNTH (the AVS file) -- and is frame served to X264. The M2TS source fails because it can't be decoded properly in AVISYNTH. If it doesn't need reencoding, it should be ok as-is.

What disc are you working?

[jdobbs]

Interesting that I downloaded BD-RBV02601 and ran a full movie backup last night, it completed successfully, and then auto shutdown. This morning I boot up, and open BD-RB, and McAfee goes off. I did not even see an update from McAfee. This can get a bit frustrating, speaking calmly. :devil: You think it's frustrating for you? Try sending out versions that pass the scan, only to find out they don't pass a day later. I do remember the McAfee update notice popping up in my system tray late yesterday.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have been checking a recent BD-RB PiP backup of Batman Begins with the original with CLIPINF Editor, and I have noticed a difference in the way it sees the Stream PID of the original versus BD-RB. It appears normal audio tracks have a Stream PID of 1100, 1101, 1102 etc..., while secondary audio has 1A00. Video is 1B00.
On my BD-RB backup, secondary audio is seen as 1102, the two audio tracks I kept, 1100 and 1101, plus the secondary PiP audio 1102.
This backup does seem to work fine, so you have adjusted the secondary audio to the correct track number. But does Blu-Ray compliance need to follow a certain standard ?

[Capsbackup]

You think it's frustrating for you? Try sending out versions that pass the scan, only to find out they don't pass a day later. I do remember the McAfee update notice popping up in my system tray late yesterday.

Yes, I meant for you. :) I'm just the lucky old stiff that still gets to use BD-RB after such a quick update. :p
Thanks for that!

[GaPony]

You think it's frustrating for you? Try sending out versions that pass the scan, only to find out they don't pass a day later. I do remember the McAfee update notice popping up in my system tray late yesterday.

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. This has been happening frequently with a few other programs I use. Its driving the developers nuts. Fortunately, I dumped McAfee long ago.

[bassnut]

Well I still have problems with Fast and Furious no matter what I do. I went to my ffdshow video config to change vc-1 to use decoder wmv9. BD-RB still says Encoding Failed. What are my other options?.

Fast and furious processed and worked for me with only a few PGC Oversizing errors. I had started this earlier but had some Video card issues and let it run overnight to finish as I was out and about. This is a region A Canadian release

[14:17:10] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: FAST_AND_FURIOUS
- Input BD size: 45.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:40.004]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[14:17:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:17:11] Collecting video information [00010]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 153,744 frames
- Bitrate: 3,357 Kbs
- [14:17:11] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:00:40] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:59:43] Video Encode complete
- [18:59:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:59:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:03:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [19:03:11] Collecting video information [00050]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,465 frames
- [02:04:16] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:04:16] Reencoding: VID_00050 (2 of 15)
- [02:05:10] Video Encode complete
- [02:05:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:05:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:05:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
- [02:05:14] Collecting video information [00061]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued... - Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,296 frames
- [02:05:19] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:05:19] Reencoding: VID_00061 (3 of 15)
- [02:06:05] Video Encode complete
- [02:06:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:06:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:06:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [02:06:09] Collecting video information [00062]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,560 frames
- [02:06:13] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:06:13] Reencoding: VID_00062 (4 of 15)
- [02:07:12] Video Encode complete
- [02:07:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:07:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:07:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00064]
- [02:07:17] Collecting video information [00064]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued... - Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,978 frames
- [02:07:21] Reencoding: VID_00064, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:07:21] Reencoding: VID_00064 (5 of 15)
- [02:08:33] Video Encode complete
- [02:08:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:08:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:08:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [02:08:38] Collecting video information [00078]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued... - Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,128 frames
- [02:08:42] Reencoding: VID_00078, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:08:42] Reencoding: VID_00078 (6 of 15)
- [02:09:21] Video Encode complete
- [02:09:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:09:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:09:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00202]
- [02:09:28] Collecting video information [00202]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued... - Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,616 frames
- [02:09:29] Reencoding: VID_00202, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:09:29] Reencoding: VID_00202 (7 of 15)
- [02:11:06] Video Encode complete
- [02:11:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:11:06] Multiplexing M2TS

- [03:22:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00238]
- [03:22:03] Collecting video information [00238]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 191 frames
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [03:22:03] Reencoding: VID_00238, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:22:09] Reencoding: VID_00238, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:22:14] Video Encode complete
- [03:22:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:22:14] Multiplexing M2TS
[03:22:15]PHASE ONE complete
[03:22:15]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [03:22:15] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[03:26:12] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[03:26:12]JOB: FAST_AND_FURIOUS finished.

[Sharc]

I don't think I understand. The only time the MKV step is needed is when the stream is being reencoded to AVC. The MKV is used as the source in AVISYNTH (the AVS file) -- and is frame served to X264. The M2TS source fails because it can't be decoded properly in AVISYNTH. If it doesn't need reencoding, it should be ok as-is.

What disc are you working?
Sorry, my post was not clear.
You are right of course that copying the m2ts file intact should have no playback issues on a standalone player.
The problem I have is with SW player (mpc-hc, vlc) which cannot play the sample clips (VC-1, field-based interlaced, or hybrid interlaced - progressive) which I posted/uploaded earlier -- the samples are excerpts from Extras of Hulk 2 Region B.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1310481#post1310481
However, when I make a blu-ray structure from these sample clips using tsMuxeR and force a re-encode with v0.26.02 the re-encoded .m2ts (AVC) can be played back with VLC (and with mpc-hc but audio/video desynched). So after all it may be just a SW player/decoder issue and nothing to really worry about.

[kanerulz69]

I'm running "Watchmen" right now -- and there doesn't seem to be any issues...

i did watchmen and it ran fine but it doesnt play the movie nor / title scenes or anything else, but the disc is full is it a bdr issue? and yes i tried it on my sony s350 player and computer using powerdvd and total media theatre 3 platinum, it plays the blu ray title scenes at the beginning / trailer scene etc

[jdobbs]

Sorry, my post was not clear.
You are right of course that copying the m2ts file intact should have no playback issues on a standalone player.
The problem I have is with SW player (mpc-hc, vlc) which cannot play the sample clips (VC-1, field-based interlaced, or hybrid interlaced - progressive) which I posted/uploaded earlier -- the samples are excerpts from Extras of Hulk 2 Region B.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1310481#post1310481
However, when I make a blu-ray structure from these sample clips using tsMuxeR and force a re-encode with v0.26.02 the re-encoded .m2ts (AVC) can be played back with VLC (and with mpc-hc but audio/video desynched). So after all it may be just a SW player/decoder issue and nothing to really worry about.Ok. I see. I'll add a "FORCE_ENCODE=1" hidden option to the next version.

[Sharc]

Ok. I see. I'll add a "FORCE_ENCODE=1" hidden option to the next version.
Thank you, much appreciated.

[sebishow]

Questions :

My Bluray input is 27,88 and my target is 22,46 but Bdrebuilder want to keep the Video and ALWAYS RE ENCODE the HD TRACK TO AC3....EVEN if i choose to KEEP HD TRACK.....to ovoid re encode the video...And keeping the HD TRACK...
Let me know how to solve that...

Thank in advance...

[Capsbackup]

McAfee just updated again and now BD-RBV02602 is removed/quarantined. This has become a real nuisance.

[Chefkoch_ico]

@jdobbs;
I have been checking a recent BD-RB PiP backup of Batman Begins with the original with CLIPINF Editor, and I have noticed a difference in the way it sees the Stream PID of the original versus BD-RB. It appears normal audio tracks have a Stream PID of 1100, 1101, 1102 etc..., while secondary audio has 1A00. Video is 1B00.
On my BD-RB backup, secondary audio is seen as 1102, the two audio tracks I kept, 1100 and 1101, plus the secondary PiP audio 1102.
This backup does seem to work fine, so you have adjusted the secondary audio to the correct track number. But does Blu-Ray compliance need to follow a certain standard ?
Interesting, could that be the problem with PowerDVD? Is there a way to manually change the IDs in both m2ts and clipinf, so I can try this?

[tekmobile]

McAfee just updated again and now BD-RBV02602 is removed/quarantined. This has become a real nuisance.

Perhaps it's time to get a new AV program.

[Capsbackup]

Perhaps it's time to get a new AV program.

Tempting, but it is free with my ATT DSL ( for what thats worth!)
This is the only software, be it I use quite often, that has this issue. I have used RipBot264, MeGui, eac3to, clownbd and others and have not experienced this.
I know jdobbs himself has McAfee, so it could be troublesome for him too.
If I have to uninstall McAfee, or disable it or use another program to be able to use BD-RB, I will.
But for now, I'm just making jdobbs aware of these issues.
I know there are far more important developments for BD-RB, and this could be just one little pain along the way. :rolleyes:

[Capsbackup]

Interesting, could that be the problem with PowerDVD? Is there a way to manually change the IDs in both m2ts and clipinf, so I can try this?

Not that I'm aware of, and I'm not even sure this is a viable concern. Just wanted to be another set of eyes out there, just in case it can provide a benefit for BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

Tempting, but it is free with my ATT DSL ( for what thats worth!)
This is the only software, be it I use quite often, that has this issue. I have used RipBot264, MeGui, eac3to, clownbd and others and have not experienced this.
I know jdobbs himself has McAfee, so it could be troublesome for him too.
If I have to uninstall McAfee, or disable it or use another program to be able to use BD-RB, I will.
But for now, I'm just making jdobbs aware of these issues.
I know there are far more important developments for BD-RB, and this could be just one little pain along the way. :rolleyes: It isn't just BD-RB. Other software is having this same issue. Frankly it's starting to piss me off.

[jdobbs]

Interesting, could that be the problem with PowerDVD? Is there a way to manually change the IDs in both m2ts and clipinf, so I can try this? Yes, secondary audio should be numbered 0x1A00 - 0x1A1F. But TSMUXER doesn't have the ability to mux using that PID. I could change it, but I'd have to scan and change the associated PID in every packet of the M2TS file -- I can and originally planned to do that, but it is a real pain, and it doesn't seem to make a difference. It would also add 20 minutes (or longer) to the backup process...

[Capsbackup]

It isn't just BD-RB. Other software is having this same issue. Frankly it's starting to piss me off.

I hear you, and am in agreement.
I am prepared to disable McAfee while running BD-RB, and this seems like the most logical choice. I rarely surf the internet or do anything else while backing up a movie, so it should be little risk for me.
Do you want to know and have it reported if McAfee is deleting BD-RB?

[Jake802]

Ok I do have one issue now my Windows Media Player is playing avi files but I am getting now sound,after playing with the windows tweaker how do i fix that?

[GaPony]

I'm not sure what that has to do with Blu-Ray movies.... Maybe you need to reinstall WMP or install WMP 11, if you didn't have it before...and stop tweaking stuff.

[Jake802]

It has to do with my earlier posts I was having issues getting BD-RB to work, and I couldn't come up with an answer why.JDobbs, referred me to a link with some solutions.I used one and it appeared to work but now I have no audio when playing avi files in wmp,and I was wondering if anyone here knew why,no need for you to be rude.

[GaPony]

I wasn't being rude... just to the point. You've been running Windows 7 with no problems until you ran into some VC-1 stuff. You changed ffdshow to wmv 9, when you maybe should have left it disabled (or set it to disabled) and installed Windows Media Player 11, if you didn't already have it installed and set up. I run this on a PC with Win 7 64-bit, another with Win 7 32-bit, and my main PC with Vista 64-Bit. All I did was follow JDobb's instructions for installing the assiciated software (ffdshow, Matroska Splitter, avisynth, etc.) and haven't had a single issue that wasn't effecting everyone else. I know turbojet said the WMP 11 codec didn't work outside of WMP, but something is doing the job.

It sounds like somewhere in the tweaking process you replaced a WMP audio codec with something else, but either doing a system restore to before the tweak, or reinstalling Windows Media Player would likely fix that problem. You weren't clear on the nexus between playing the AVI file and BD-Rebuilder, but I went back and looked at your posts and think I see where it went wrong. I don't have any of the problems turbojet was talking about in his post. I have TMT installed on the Win 7 32-bit and Vist 64-bit PCs, but not on the Win 7 64-bit PC and still no problems. Maybe I've just been lucky to avoid the problematic interlaced video files.

[kanerulz69]

i did watchmen and it ran fine but it doesnt play the movie nor / title scenes or anything else, but the disc is full is it a bdr issue? and yes i tried it on my sony s350 player and computer using powerdvd and total media theatre 3 platinum, it plays the blu ray title scenes at the beginning / trailer scene etc

nevermind i figured out it was dvdfab that was the problem using there bluray to hard drive and when i used anydvd it worked perfect, i figured i'd give theres a try and see how it worked since i always use anydvd hd and dvdfab is alot ALOT faster but not guaranteed to work perfect like anydvd hd

[Jake802]

I wasn't being rude... just to the point. You've been running Windows 7 with no problems until you ran into some VC-1 stuff. You changed ffdshow to wmv 9, when you maybe should have left it disabled (or set it to disabled) and installed Windows Media Player 11, if you didn't already have it installed and set up. I run this on a PC with Win 7 64-bit, another with Win 7 32-bit, and my main PC with Vista 64-Bit. All I did was follow JDobb's instructions for installing the assiciated software (ffdshow, Matroska Splitter, avisynth, etc.) and haven't had a single issue that wasn't effecting everyone else. I know turbojet said the WMP 11 codec didn't work outside of WMP, but something is doing the job.

It sounds like somewhere in the tweaking process you replaced a WMP audio codec with something else, but either doing a system restore to before the tweak, or reinstalling Windows Media Player would likely fix that problem. You weren't clear on the nexus between playing the AVI file and BD-Rebuilder, but I went back and looked at your posts and think I see where it went wrong. I don't have any of the problems turbojet was talking about in his post. I have TMT installed on the Win 7 32-bit and Vist 64-bit PCs, but not on the Win 7 64-bit PC and still no problems. Maybe I've just been lucky to avoid the problematic interlaced video files.

I did this as well, I ran into and issue with Watchmen,and I hadnt changed anything until it was suggested. It didn't work,I didnt, WMP was aleady installed when Windows 7 installed which hasnt been a problem ever,So I then did a restore taking off any FFDShows I had,Installed FFDShow 64Bit like I had on the computer and it still wasn't working,I then read JDobbs suggestion pointing me to that thread,That's where my tweaking started and I ran into the issue with the WMP.Everything else seemed find but I played my backup copy of watchmen and it skipped once or twice so I may just reformat everything and start from square one.Sorry your post just seemed rude or rude in nature when I was just asking to see if anyone else encountered the same issue and may now how to fix. I apologize if I took it the wrong way.

[Chiamos]

I hear you, and am in agreement.
I am prepared to disable McAfee while running BD-RB, and this seems like the most logical choice. I rarely surf the internet or do anything else while backing up a movie, so it should be little risk for me.
Do you want to know and have it reported if McAfee is deleting BD-RB?

Rather than disabling or even removing the antiviral program, as you may have an option to set an exception for BD-RB in the antiviral scan and guard configuration, so the warning and auto quarantine will not occur.:rolleyes:

[daberti]

McAfee just updated again and now BD-RBV02602 is removed/quarantined. This has become a real nuisance.

Read my post above to learn how to address once and for all this issue.

In short:
1)Go to notepad and open a new text file and name it as artemis_workaround.reg

2)Paste what is just below:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\McAfee\VirusScan\Artemis\On Access Scanner]
"ArtemisAllowed"=dword:00000001
"ArtemisEnabled"=dword:00000001
"ArtemisLevel"=dword:00000000

3)close and save the file

4)Via explorer double click on file

5)Shutdown PC

6)Start pc

Let me know it this solves

[daberti]

Rather than disabling or even removing the antiviral program, as you may have an option to set an exception for BD-RB in the antiviral scan and guard configuration, so the warning and auto quarantine will not occur.:rolleyes:

See my hint above. You'll easily notice that noting is dsabled.
Just need to set the proper OAS treshold for McAfee's Artemis action.

[jdobbs]

Once again posting to correct for McAfee's Artemis engine false positive.- Recompiled to prevent false positive for "Artemis"
in McAfee. Same as was necessary in v0.26.02.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[GaPony]

I did this as well, I ran into and issue with Watchmen,and I hadnt changed anything until it was suggested. It didn't work,I didnt, WMP was aleady installed when Windows 7 installed which hasnt been a problem ever,So I then did a restore taking off any FFDShows I had,Installed FFDShow 64Bit like I had on the computer and it still wasn't working,I then read JDobbs suggestion pointing me to that thread,That's where my tweaking started and I ran into the issue with the WMP.Everything else seemed find but I played my backup copy of watchmen and it skipped once or twice so I may just reformat everything and start from square one.Sorry your post just seemed rude or rude in nature when I was just asking to see if anyone else encountered the same issue and may now how to fix. I apologize if I took it the wrong way.

That might not be a bad idea... who knows what might have gotten "tweaked" along the way... I'm not using 64-bit bit versions of anything...just the 32-bit programs pointed to in the first post here. Maybe The Watchmen isn't the best movie to judge by. I've seen several posts referenceing that movie where problems had not been encountered by the person with other movies. I don't have it, so I couldn't tell you if I had problems with it. I do have a pretty strict policy of "When in doubt, make a movie only copy". :)

[daberti]

Once again posting to correct for McAfee's Artemis engine false positive.- Recompiled to prevent false positive for "Artemis"
in McAfee. Same as was necessary in v0.26.02.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

probably you may wish to avoid the hassle of recompiling again and again just by means of adding the .reg file to the package, to be run before file copying.
Just my thought though.

[jdobbs]

probably you may wish to avoid the hassle of recompiling again and again just by means of adding the .reg file to the package, to be run before file copying.
Just my thought though. People get pretty upset when you make mods to their system -- especially those related to security. I think this just points out a weakness of McAfee's Artemis system. I wonder if there are ways for companies to disable their competition (or software they don't like) by electronically reporting their signatures as "trojans" -- and causing McAfee to remove their executables?

Something to think about, eh?

[Capsbackup]

People get pretty upset when you make mods to their system -- especially those related to security. I think this just points out a weakness of McAfee's Artemis system. I wonder if there are ways for companies to disable their competition (or software they don't like) by electronically reporting their signatures as "trojans" -- and causing McAfee to remove their executables?

Something to think about, eh?

jdobbs, you may be on someone's radar!:rolleyes:

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, you may be on someone's radar!:rolleyes:It makes a nice conspiracy theory anyway. :) It lines up nicely with the contention that BD-RB was seen leaving hastily from the grassy knoll. Fact or fiction? You be the judge!

[daberti]

People get pretty upset when you make mods to their system -- especially those related to security. I think this just points out a weakness of McAfee's Artemis system. I wonder if there are ways for companies to disable their competition (or software they don't like) by electronically reporting their signatures as "trojans" -- and causing McAfee to remove their executables?

Something to think about, eh?

Quite my thought ;)
Anyway the workaround is at hand. Just what I said above.
Might be an idea to make it sticky -maybe- ;)

[Category 5]

I know viruc checkers seek out keygens and cracks and delete them as though they are viruses. Is it possible some organization has flagged your software as a threat to intellectual property and McAfee is playing ball and targeting your software.

I'm not a consipracy guy, but like I said...keygens get tagged so why not.

[Sophocles]

I find this virus discussion interesting because I received a report on another forum that Avira flagged BD RB for a virus or to quote. the latest version appears to have a TR/Crypt.XPACK.Gen - Trojan! in the file!

I immediately scanned my BD RB folder and nothing came up so I discounted the issue as a pre-existing problem. I do however find it odd that a similar discussion popped up on two separate forums with apparent connection.

So now proceed with your conspiracy theories. LOL:D

[Furiousflea]

I find this virus discussion interesting because I received a report on another forum that Avira flagged BD RB for a virus or to quote.

I immediately scanned my BD RB folder and nothing came up so I discounted the issue as a pre-existing problem. I do however find it odd that a similar discussion popped up on two separate forums with apparent connection.

So now proceed with your conspiracy theories. LOL:D

Not at all, there are commercial packers that lots of developers use to compress\hide their code from being reverse engineerd. These packers are often detcted by AV programs as being dodgy.

No conspiracy theory.


Anyways, jdobbs does the latest version have the freezing resolved for a lot of PiP discs if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks, (soz for still having not mentioned about IG field in bdedit) It will happen.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Think red herring...

[jdobbs]

Not at all, there are commercial packers that lots of developers use to compress\hide their code from being reverse engineerd. These packers are often detcted by AV programs as being dodgy.

No conspiracy theory.


Anyways, jdobbs does the latest version have the freezing resolved for a lot of PiP discs if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks, (soz for still having not mentioned about IG field in bdedit) It will happen. I don't think so, but you never know. I am working a fix for a PiP issue I found for the next version, though. It's more likely it may fix it -- still, since I haven't repeated it I really can't say.

[eTiMaGo]

A note on the whole "Encode Failed. Retrying.", I have been seeing this for quite a lot of movies I ripped (Benjamin Button Disc 1, Unborn, Cars, Beowulf, among others), so I did a lot more reading up on this error in here. My test subject is the Benjamin Button disc which is all 1080p VC1 files, none of which would convert. I'm using the Windows Server 2008 R2 RC, BTW (yeay, another can of worms!), which is really just win7 at the core. And doing BD25 conversions.

Anyway, I tried the trick to force VC1 decoding to WMV9 in ffdshow, to no avail. I tried the other registry tricks, nothing. Then just now out of desperation I set the VC1 decoder to "libavcodec", and now it's working! I set it as a single pass job so I don't waste time in case something goes wrong, but, is there a chance I'm just doing this all wrong and will have to resort to pulling out my hair soon?

[By-Tor]

Hi this my first post here so hope someone can help me i'm trying to back up POTC..TCOTBP and POTC..DMC but keep hitting the same problem with films i'm doing full disc backup
and keep getting to a certain point and failing to re-encode....here is a sample of what i get also I've used 3 different systems and get the same result i've carried out about 5 attempts on each machine with the exact same results

- Input BD size: 39.35 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:22:44.610]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[20:56:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:56:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [20:56:51] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 13)
- [20:57:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [20:57:05] Reencoding: VID_00014 (2 of 13)
- [20:57:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [20:58:00] Reencoding: VID_00022 (3 of 13)
- [20:59:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [20:59:11] Reencoding: VID_00019 (4 of 13)
- [21:04:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [21:04:39] Reencoding: VID_00021 (5 of 13)
- [21:10:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [21:10:54] Reencoding: VID_00010 (6 of 13)
- [21:18:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [21:18:53] Reencoding: VID_00012 (7 of 13)
- [21:24:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [21:24:47] Reencoding: VID_00017 (8 of 13)
- [21:31:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [21:31:43] Reencoding: VID_00016 (9 of 13)
- [21:45:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [21:45:44] Reencoding: VID_00013 (10 of 13)
- [21:56:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [21:57:59] Reencoding: VID_00018 (11 of 13)
- [22:51:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [22:55:58] Reencoding: VID_00020 (12 of 13)
- [01:43:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [02:00:55] Reencoding: VID_00001 (13 of 13)
- Analyzing 20.09 - Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- [02:04:04] PredictAndEncode() 00011 2810.

hope this is enough info!!!!!!!!

sorry forgot to say 2 machines xp and 1 is vista 32 bit



just carried out another back up.....same result

[Sn8kbordin]

Used BD-RB 0.26.03 to back up Watchmen in movie only, strict AVCHD mode to DVD9 and when fast forwarding faster than 1.5x on PS3 pictures goes black and stays black. Also this happens when stopping the movie and resuming it, when skipping chapters although it works fine to skip to chapter 2 and some other chapter halfway in the movie. You can hear sound but picture stays black.

Encoding again to see if it will be ok when strict AVCHD is not selected in movie-only.

Finally I tried to encode it into 720p but all working files were 1080p, and .avs files had no resize filter in it.

[tplat]

Has anyone been able to do 25gb movie only back-up of Sin City, with high-res audio?

Just tried beta 26.03 on Sin City and it also failed on movie only, tried with do not convert dts to ac3, do not re-encode ac3 and keep hd audio for bd25, also tried with nothing selected for audio options and it still failed on movie only however full back up seems to start will see the results later. By the way on the movie only option it fails to retrieve audio right after starting.

[isoss]

Heey everyone

i have a question i want to make a ful backup from movies with PiP bud first de schreen whent black and nou te menu hangsup what can i do to prefent it en make a good backup from my movies. i want to keep all of de subs and audio tracks i don't even won't reencode AC3 en DTS and i wan't to keep the HD audio.

can some one help me

[Furiousflea]

Heey everyone

i have a question i want to make a ful backup from movies with PiP bud first de schreen whent black and nou te menu hangsup what can i do to prefent it en make a good backup from my movies. i want to keep all of de subs and audio tracks i don't even won't reencode AC3 en DTS and i wan't to keep the HD audio.

can some one help me

Yeah, read the first post and have a look through the options and don't be so lazy.

[Furiousflea]

Yeah, read the first post and have a look through the options and don't be so lazy.

No disrespect intended with that post, it's just I looked through your post history and you have asked similar question time and time again.

I see you have a Panasonic model that needs 24p to be turned OFF on the player or you will just have a blank screen when going to watch the main movie after the menu. This has been covered countless times in this thread? Can't you do a search for "panasonic" in this thread?

Honestly the motivation for problem solving abilities by ones self in this day and age is tragic.

If you really still need help, then give more details. A demand that is common on all message boards throughout "teh internetz"

[jdobbs]

I've posted links to a new release of BD-RB (v0.27.01) in the first post of this thread. Changes for this version:- Added the capability to reencode secondary video
streams. These were previously copied intact, and
as a result used excessive amounts of space, making
the overall encode quality drop.
- Corrected an error related to secondary tracks and
how they are updated in the SPN tables. This fix
should correct some of the problems related to
playback of video with PiP. Some PiP issues remain
and are being researched.
- Fixed an issue in which on some multiangled sources
the angles may not be properly included in the list
of items to be reencoded. This should fix the issue
where one angle appears to work and another is blank.
- Modified encode quality settings so that they now use
the X264 PRESETS. This makes setting more managable
and keeps BD-RB in line with X264 development.
- Corrected an error in which the percent completed
reported during a minimized state could incorrectly
report 100% overall completion when not true.
- Updated the included X264.EXE in the TOOLS folder
to the lastest tested version (r1195).
- Implemented new settings for first pass of two pass
encodes. Should reduce overall encode times.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[chudm]

thx jdobbs testing it right now with elton john red piano bluray :)

[Furiousflea]

You "da man" dobbs!!!...testing a "freezing" PiP disc now with sceptical hope :) Thanks for the new release.

[worknstiff]

I will try out the newest version tonight and see how it goes. I finshed with the watchmen fiasco after using every trick I could think of. What is in the m2ts file that is so corrupted that even using TMT to reincode it to AVCH and reset the chapter points it still refuses to ff or chapter seek. I have tried Full disk BD25 backup, Movie Only BD25 and BD9 and finally decided that all you could do is move on. If every one else is able to make it work then maybe it is just my ripping or burning and my old BD30 player that is the problem. All the other movies I have copied have let me take the m2ts file and redo the chapter points and create a fully playable disk using the same configuration so I wonder if it is some new form of m2ts that has different frame rates or time counts or something. Oh well. So now my next problem. I am doing the new BSG 4.5 and really wish there was a way to select multiple alternate playlists to encode. I think that would really be a great extra feature to consider adding.

[Sharc]

Ok. I see. I'll add a "FORCE_ENCODE=1" hidden option to the next version.
Did it already make it for v0.27.01?

[jdobbs]

Did it already make it for v0.27.01?Hmmm... it seems I added it to the code, but didn't include a way to set it from the INI. :o Oh, well, looks like it will have to wait one more version.

[Capsbackup]

Thanks for the new update and your continued diligence. :thanks:
I will test my PiP discs, in particular, Beowulf, which had no secondary audio, but movie freezes.
Just curious, I have successfully backed up Batman Begins, which has PiP and DD Plus secondary audio, but the main movie does not have audio sync. I don't beleive it is a BD-RB issue. I was able to manually, thru tsMuxeR, correct the audio sync ( 250ms) for a movie only and full backup without PiP, but am not able to make all the necessary changes, etc.. for a successful full movie backup with PiP.
Is it possible to have an option within BD-RB to change the audio delay for a full backup or movie only backup?
It would be nice, if after a normal rebuild that has audio async, to be able to set a delay and do another rebuild only to try and correct the audio sync.( keeping Working folder files)

[Capsbackup]

Sorry to report, but a full movie backup of Beowulf, BD-25, burned to BD-RE for playback on my BX1 still has the picture freezing. :(
Also, the border surrounding the PiP window is all that is displayed before the picture freezes, never actually showing the PiP video.
I also noticed, which may be part of BD-RBV02701, that the backups are now reported by BDInfo as Baseline Profile 4.1 for the main movie and the secondary PiP track, where the original movie and the previous BD-RBV02603 is seen as High Profile 4.1 and 3.2, respectively. Not sure what, if any, this difference makes, but just my observation.
jdobbs, this PiP backup may be proving to be more trouble than it's worth, but if you are determined to make it work, I will continue to test it out on my end. :)

[dianasta]

Hi jdobbs,

I'm using BD-RB 0.27.01 rebuilding X Files 2. The secondary audio is not selected for some reason.

I have set the parameter PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 in the .ini file.

I have attached the picture for your review.


Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Sorry to report, but a full movie backup of Beowulf, BD-25, burned to BD-RE for playback on my BX1 still has the picture freezing. :(
Also, the border surrounding the PiP window is all that is displayed before the picture freezes, never actually showing the PiP video.
I also noticed, which may be part of BD-RBV02701, that the backups are now reported by BDInfo as Baseline Profile 4.1 for the main movie and the secondary PiP track, where the original movie and the previous BD-RBV02603 is seen as High Profile 4.1 and 3.2, respectively. Not sure what, if any, this difference makes, but just my observation.
jdobbs, this PiP backup may be proving to be more trouble than it's worth, but if you are determined to make it work, I will continue to test it out on my end. :)Baseline? I'll look at it -- but that sounds weird... what quality setting are you using? I used the "ultrafast" preset for the "High Speed (BD-25)" option. If you used that one it probably isn't surprising that it's baseline -- as it would make sense that it would be faster without processing b-frames. It shouldn't make a difference for BD playback, though.

[Capsbackup]

Baseline? I'll look at it -- but that sounds weird... what quality setting are you using? I used the "ultrafast" preset for the "High Speed (BD-25)" option. If you used that one it probably isn't surprising that it's baseline -- as it would make sense that it would be faster without processing b-frames. It shouldn't make a difference for BD playback, though.

I used High Speed Option, One Pass Encoding, Quicker Encode for Extras.

[jdobbs]

I also noticed, which may be part of BD-RBV02701, that the backups are now reported by BDInfo as Baseline Profile 4.1 for the main movie and the secondary PiP track, where the original movie and the previous BD-RBV02603 is seen as High Profile 4.1 and 3.2, respectively. Not sure what, if any, this difference makes, but just my observation.The "ultrafast" mode definitely sets bframes to "0" -- that's why it shows as baseline. I thought about adding "--bframes 3" to the command line to make it more consistent, but the real purpose of that setting is speed -- and in testing it this morning I found that it is 40% faster without the bframes.

If I start getting reports that the quality isn't good enough even on BD-25, I'll put the bframes back in.

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,

I'm using BD-RB 0.27.01 rebuilding X Files 2. The secondary audio is not selected for some reason.

I have set the parameter PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 in the .ini file.

I have attached the picture for your review.


Thanks. That's because it is a DTS secondary, which TSMUXER can't be extract right now.

[Fullasoul]

hey, guys....

So I ran into an "error in attempt to multiplex" error last night....searching this thread thoroughly before posting, I see that this particular question very rarely gets answered, but I DID see that the next logical step is to try and perform the function from the command line, so I did. Here's what came up:

Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame
rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
0.0% complete
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Decoding PGS stream (track 4): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
18.2% complete
Matroska parser: read error at pos 1063256064

Any idea what's going wrong???

[Capsbackup]

The "ultrafast" mode definitely sets bframes to "0" -- that's why it shows as baseline. I thought about adding "--bframes 3" to the command line to make it more consistent, but the real purpose of that setting is speed -- and in testing it this morning I found that it is 40% faster without the bframes.

If I start getting reports that the quality isn't good enough even on BD-25, I'll put the bframes back in.

I was not able to check the quality because the disc would freeze, but I did like the speed of this setting. I'm sure the quality would still be excellent for most full movie backups to BD-25 without a lot of extras. I'm all for a quick backup setting like this one. If I am after maximum quality, I know I can select that option too.

[By-Tor]

hello again sorry to keep asking, but i need some help .......i posted 2 days ago trying to find out if anyone else had any problems backing up
the pirates of the caribbean 1+2, I've been trying for over 2 months using various beta version's of bd-rebuilder but keep getting the same problem
in that i'm trying to do a full disc backup but it keeps failing giving me these reults.
- Input BD size: 39.35 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:22:44.610]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[20:56:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:56:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [20:56:51] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 13)
- [20:57:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [20:57:05] Reencoding: VID_00014 (2 of 13)
- [20:57:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [20:58:00] Reencoding: VID_00022 (3 of 13)
- [20:59:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [20:59:11] Reencoding: VID_00019 (4 of 13)
- [21:04:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [21:04:39] Reencoding: VID_00021 (5 of 13)
- [21:10:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [21:10:54] Reencoding: VID_00010 (6 of 13)
- [21:18:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [21:18:53] Reencoding: VID_00012 (7 of 13)
- [21:24:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [21:24:47] Reencoding: VID_00017 (8 of 13)
- [21:31:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [21:31:43] Reencoding: VID_00016 (9 of 13)
- [21:45:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [21:45:44] Reencoding: VID_00013 (10 of 13)
- [21:56:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [21:57:59] Reencoding: VID_00018 (11 of 13)
- [22:51:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [22:55:58] Reencoding: VID_00020 (12 of 13)
- [01:43:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [02:00:55] Reencoding: VID_00001 (13 of 13)
- Analyzing 20.09 - Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- [02:04:04] PredictAndEncode() 00011 2810.
-pass1/1
speed0.52x
eta 0:00
fps:12.46
frames 042710/042717
this was using version 27.01 today

hope this is enough info!!!



hope someone can guide with this one....
p/s borrowed another copy of the disc from a friend to make sure it's not my disc
still got the same result...HELP!!!!!!!!! Please.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Capsbackup]

@By-Tor;
What region is your POTC disc?
Have you been succsessful backing up any other discs?
Can you do a movie only backup successfully of this POTC disc?

[By-Tor]

hi disc's tried have been region B and i've managed to backup potc 3 no problems also various other BD's
only having trouble with potc curse of the black pearl and potc dead mans chest????????

[drmih]

hello again sorry to keep asking, but i need some help .......i posted 2 days ago trying to find out if anyone else had any problems backing up
the pirates of the caribbean 1+2, I've been trying for over 2 months using various beta version's of bd-rebuilder but keep getting the same problem
in that i'm trying to do a full disc backup but it keeps failing giving me these reults.
- Input BD size: 39.35 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:22:44.610]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[20:56:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:56:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [20:56:51] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 13)
- [20:57:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [20:57:05] Reencoding: VID_00014 (2 of 13)
- [20:57:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [20:58:00] Reencoding: VID_00022 (3 of 13)
- [20:59:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [20:59:11] Reencoding: VID_00019 (4 of 13)
- [21:04:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [21:04:39] Reencoding: VID_00021 (5 of 13)
- [21:10:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [21:10:54] Reencoding: VID_00010 (6 of 13)
- [21:18:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [21:18:53] Reencoding: VID_00012 (7 of 13)
- [21:24:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [21:24:47] Reencoding: VID_00017 (8 of 13)
- [21:31:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [21:31:43] Reencoding: VID_00016 (9 of 13)
- [21:45:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [21:45:44] Reencoding: VID_00013 (10 of 13)
- [21:56:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [21:57:59] Reencoding: VID_00018 (11 of 13)
- [22:51:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [22:55:58] Reencoding: VID_00020 (12 of 13)
- [01:43:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [02:00:55] Reencoding: VID_00001 (13 of 13)
- Analyzing 20.09 - Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- [02:04:04] PredictAndEncode() 00011 2810.
-pass1/1
speed0.52x
eta 0:00
fps:12.46
frames 042710/042717
this was using version 27.01 today

hope this is enough info!!!



hope someone can guide with this one....
p/s borrowed another copy of the disc from a friend to make sure it's not my disc
still got the same result...HELP!!!!!!!!! Please.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I've done all 6 discs Region B without a problem but my file structures looks different - also why are the files in a random order - it usually starts at the lowest id and works through. Perhaps there are one disc editions that you are doing and there's something quirky about them.

[dianasta]

That's because it is a DTS secondary, which TSMUXER can't be extract right now.

Is it possible to have an option to encode that type of audio in future releases?

Thanks.

[drmih]

Is it possible to have an option to encode that type of audio in future releases?

Thanks.

You'd have to ask that question of the team behind TSmuxer.

[DK]

trying to find out if anyone else had any problems backing up the pirates of the caribbean 1+2

No problem here with either of the three titles:

[14:41:59] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Input BD size: 41,31 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:21:15.179]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[14:41:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:41:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:41:59] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 10)
- [14:42:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [14:42:04] Reencoding: VID_00003 (2 of 10)
- [14:42:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [14:42:23] Reencoding: VID_00017 (3 of 10)
- [14:42:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [14:43:09] Reencoding: VID_00022 (4 of 10)
- [14:44:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [14:44:44] Reencoding: VID_00023 (5 of 10)
- [14:45:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [14:46:35] Reencoding: VID_00014 (6 of 10)
- [14:48:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [14:49:11] Reencoding: VID_00031 (7 of 10)
- [14:51:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [14:51:21] Reencoding: VID_00032 (8 of 10)
- [14:55:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [14:57:32] Reencoding: VID_00021 (9 of 10)
- [16:43:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [16:51:27] Reencoding: VID_00001 (10 of 10)
[20:41:45]PHASE ONE complete
[20:41:45]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [20:41:45] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[20:42:52] - Encode and Rebuild complete


[00:02:53] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Input BD size: 39,35 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:22:44.610]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[00:02:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:02:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [00:02:54] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 13)
- [00:02:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [00:02:59] Reencoding: VID_00014 (2 of 13)
- [00:03:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [00:03:23] Reencoding: VID_00022 (3 of 13)
- [00:03:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [00:03:53] Reencoding: VID_00019 (4 of 13)
- [00:05:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [00:05:51] Reencoding: VID_00021 (5 of 13)
- [00:07:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [00:07:56] Reencoding: VID_00010 (6 of 13)
- [00:10:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [00:10:50] Reencoding: VID_00012 (7 of 13)
- [00:12:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [00:12:51] Reencoding: VID_00017 (8 of 13)
- [00:15:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [00:15:28] Reencoding: VID_00016 (9 of 13)
- [00:20:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [00:20:23] Reencoding: VID_00013 (10 of 13)
- [00:24:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [00:24:54] Reencoding: VID_00018 (11 of 13)
- [00:43:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [00:44:52] Reencoding: VID_00020 (12 of 13)
- [01:42:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [01:49:47] Reencoding: VID_00001 (13 of 13)
[05:52:22]PHASE ONE complete
[05:52:22]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [05:52:23] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[05:52:56] - Encode and Rebuild complete


[15:14:56] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Input BD size: 42,93 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:04.335]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[15:14:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:14:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [15:14:57] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 10)
- [15:15:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [15:15:01] Reencoding: VID_00005 (2 of 10)
- [15:15:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [15:15:15] Reencoding: VID_00007 (3 of 10)
- [15:15:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [15:15:29] Reencoding: VID_00012 (4 of 10)
- [15:16:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [15:16:03] Reencoding: VID_00023 (5 of 10)
- [15:16:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [15:17:00] Reencoding: VID_00004 (6 of 10)
- [15:18:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [15:18:40] Reencoding: VID_00006 (7 of 10)
- [15:21:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [15:21:42] Reencoding: VID_00008 (8 of 10)
- [15:25:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [15:26:06] Reencoding: VID_00003 (9 of 10)
- [15:35:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [15:49:48] Reencoding: VID_00001 (10 of 10)
[20:56:30]PHASE ONE complete
[20:56:30]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [20:56:30] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[20:56:52] - Encode and Rebuild complete

[drmih]

Just checked Madagscar 2 with had PiP and DD+. Done it to both bd-25 and bd-9. In both case the audio is warbley and whatever you do the audio it plays with the movie is 192kbps, which is the DD+ track. According to TSmuxer the others are there. The PiP does work and you can just about figure out that the part of the audio is in sync with the PiP window.

As an aside, the bd-9, when played on a Sony 550 still gives no audio at all, or access to the PiP.

[jefrey]

whats about that error:

- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00226.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[17:54:09] - Failed to build structure, aborted

i've rebuild 1 BD and no errors appears, but after the 2st one, allways appears that error :(

[jdobbs]

Just checked Madagscar 2 with had PiP and DD+. Done it to both bd-25 and bd-9. In both case the audio is warbley and whatever you do the audio it plays with the movie is 192kbps, which is the DD+ track. According to TSmuxer the others are there. The PiP does work and you can just about figure out that the part of the audio is in sync with the PiP window.

As an aside, the bd-9, when played on a Sony 550 still gives no audio at all, or access to the PiP. Does it play the 192Kbs track even when the PiP isn't on? Is it definitely the PiP audio track?

[jdobbs]

I've done all 6 discs Region B without a problem but my file structures looks different - also why are the files in a random order - it usually starts at the lowest id and works through. Perhaps there are one disc editions that you are doing and there's something quirky about them. He probably has "quick encode for extras" selected. It then goes from smallest to largest.

[By-Tor]

thanx for that DK i will download the version of bd you have shown and try it........

[Chefkoch_ico]

Yes, secondary audio should be numbered 0x1A00 - 0x1A1F. But TSMUXER doesn't have the ability to mux using that PID. I could change it, but I'd have to scan and change the associated PID in every packet of the M2TS file -- I can and originally planned to do that, but it is a real pain, and it doesn't seem to make a difference. It would also add 20 minutes (or longer) to the backup process...

I will test this. To bad the usage of a hex editor is not suitable for this, because of the 16 Bit for PID there are actually the 3 MSB used for flags. They seem not setted by TSMuxer, but who knows.

Where else would I need to change the PID of the secondary video stream and audio streams? Only in the clpi file? I took a look there, do I need to replace all occurences in the clpi file?

Bye

[DK]

thanx for that DK i will download the version of bd you have shown and try it........

this minute i'm running some other conversion but tomorrow i'll give potc 2 a try with the latest bd-rb version and see if i run into any problem

[By-Tor]

thanx can you let me know how you get on.......

[chudm]

menu doesnt work on full bd25 backup with lastest beta and elton jonh 60 bday bluray concert! same problem happens with foo fighters full backup, menu doesnt work at all! :(

[drmih]

Does it play the 192Kbs track even when the PiP isn't on? Is it definitely the PiP audio track?

Yes the same track plays regardless of whether the PiP is on or not. For the bd-9 (the only copy I still have left) in the pre menu it has dd 640, and the menu is then dd224. When the movie is selected it's dd192 and you hear the movie and voice over merged together and very distorted. There are nine english languages shown in TMT3 (more than the original movie) and all are mixes, plus a secondary audio which doesn't seem to make a difference whether it's on or off. When PiP is switched on and you can see the faces you can just about sync the voice-over with the lips movement.

According to TSMuxer there are two video tracks and three audio (ac3 640 6C, ac3 224 2c and e-ac3 dd+ 192 2c)

The original has (True HD 6c, spa, spa, eng 224 2c, ita, por, por, deu, tur, then the PGS and finally E-AC3 DD+ 192 2c)

[Fullasoul]

hey, guys....

So I ran into an "error in attempt to multiplex" error last night....searching this thread thoroughly before posting, I see that this particular question very rarely gets answered, but I DID see that the next logical step is to try and perform the function from the command line, so I did. Here's what came up:

Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame
rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
0.0% complete
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Decoding PGS stream (track 4): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
18.2% complete
Matroska parser: read error at pos 1063256064

Any idea what's going wrong???

OK...so I get that nobody ever answers the "error in attempt to multiplex" questions....but can I ask why? Last person to actually get an answer to this question (back in February I might add) was told to run tsmuxer manually on the file. I did that in hopes of bettering my chances for an answer, but to no avail.

Not trying to stir the pot....just wondering if there's some logical reason why this question never gets answered here....

Anybody?

[tekmobile]

OK...so I get that nobody ever answers the "error in attempt to multiplex" questions....but can I ask why? Last person to actually get an answer to this question (back in February I might add) was told to run tsmuxer manually on the file. I did that in hopes of bettering my chances for an answer, but to no avail.

Not trying to stir the pot....just wondering if there's some logical reason why this question never gets answered here....

Anybody?

Maybe no one knows the answer

[jdobbs]

I will test this. To bad the usage of a hex editor is not suitable for this, because of the 16 Bit for PID there are actually the 3 MSB used for flags. They seem not setted by TSMuxer, but who knows.

Where else would I need to change the PID of the secondary video stream and audio streams? Only in the clpi file? I took a look there, do I need to replace all occurences in the clpi file?

ByeYou could use a hex editor, but you'd have to search through 130 million packets and change where necessary on a 25GB MT2S. :) If you could do two every minute you could finish in slightly over 123 years. I'll put in an option that will do it (it'll probably take 20-30 minutes with the computer). But I don't think it will make a difference.

[jdobbs]

OK...so I get that nobody ever answers the "error in attempt to multiplex" questions....but can I ask why? Last person to actually get an answer to this question (back in February I might add) was told to run tsmuxer manually on the file. I did that in hopes of bettering my chances for an answer, but to no avail.

Not trying to stir the pot....just wondering if there's some logical reason why this question never gets answered here....

Anybody? Because when I see a read error -- it is an indicator of a bad rip. It could be caused by a hundred things -- including the possiblity of hardware error, ripping software error, bad codecs, or even bad configuration. There's nothing I can do about that -- and in every one of those posts you mentioned I'll bet there is a corresponding post from someone that says "I did that exact same disc with no issues".

I can't fix something unless there is some consistency.

[flamme-demon]

Hello jdobbs,

Your program is very well designed! But we will have the opportunity to translate this program in the near future because many do not use your program because he does not understand. Do not make the same mistake with DVD Rebuilder. All communities expect a possibility of translation, it is still not too late to develop the multilanguage your program.

Thank you in advance to take this message because your program is really great


Bonjour jdobbs,

Votre programme est très bien conçu ! Mais auront nous la possibilité de traduire ce programme dans un futur proche, car beaucoup n'utilise pas votre programme car il ne le comprennent pas. Ne faite pas la même erreur que avec dvd rebuilder. Toute les communautés attendais une possibilité de traduction, il n'est pas encore trop tard pour développé le multilanguage de votre programme.

Je vous remercie par avance de tenir compte de ce message, car votre programme est vraiment génial

[By-Tor]

well tried again over night with the same result using v0.25.04 beta just like DK results but still get
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[21:48:52] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2_DEU
- Input BD size: 39.35 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:22:44.610]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[21:48:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:48:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [21:48:52] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 13)
- [21:49:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [21:49:11] Reencoding: VID_00014 (2 of 13)
- [21:50:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [21:50:12] Reencoding: VID_00022 (3 of 13)
- [21:51:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [21:51:31] Reencoding: VID_00019 (4 of 13)
- [21:56:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [21:56:41] Reencoding: VID_00021 (5 of 13)
- [22:02:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [22:02:47] Reencoding: VID_00010 (6 of 13)
- [22:10:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [22:10:38] Reencoding: VID_00012 (7 of 13)
- [22:15:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [22:16:19] Reencoding: VID_00017 (8 of 13)
- [22:22:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [22:23:26] Reencoding: VID_00016 (9 of 13)
- [22:36:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [22:37:52] Reencoding: VID_00013 (10 of 13)
- [22:49:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [22:51:22] Reencoding: VID_00018 (11 of 13)
- [23:55:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [00:02:10] Reencoding: VID_00020 (12 of 13)
- [03:12:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [04:15:45] Reencoding: VID_00001 (13 of 13)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[04:19:01] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[08:52:26] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2_DEU
- Input BD size: 39.35 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:22:44.610]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[08:52:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:52:31] Reencoding: VID_00001 (13 of 13)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[08:57:51] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[08:59:14] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2_DEU
- Input BD size: 39.35 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:22:44.610]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[08:59:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:59:16] Reencoding: VID_00001 (13 of 13)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[09:02:35] - Failed video encode, aborted

for some reason the frames don't match up : 042710 / 042717 i have cross checked this and it is the same on all atempts i have made
i have now used three different 2-disc editions of potc-dmc and get the same result with only the main feature disc the bonus disc backup no problem
so i'm confussed as to why this is happening
i have used every version of bd going back to bd v.2009 and i'm only having trouble with potc curse and potc dmc
p/s have installed all up todate drivers and codec's

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\
WORKING_PATH=C:\WORK\

thanx again for any help By-Tor

[DK]

Looks like your main movie m2ts is corrupted.

[jdobbs]

@By-Tor

Whe BD Rebuilder fails in an encode, I need to see what is causing the failure in X264.

In the BD Rebuilder folder there is a file called LASTCMD.TXT. It contains the last X264 command line executed. Open that file and cut the command to the clipboard. Then open a command windows (CMD.EXE) and paste the command. When it runs you should be able to see an error message from X264 when it fails. If you can report that it may help find a solution.

[jdobbs]

Looks like your main movie m2ts is corrupted. Unfortunately everyone automatically assumes that all rips are good and that just isn't the case.

[Adbear]

Just thought I'd let you know, there's an issue when trying to encode on Dual Nehalem systems. All works fine unless you have field based VC-1.
If you try to encode field based VC-1 it doesn't like having the hyper-threading on. If you turn off hyper-threading and let the system just see the physical cores then it encodes them fine on high quality, but if you turn it on then it just fails to encode those files, sometimes it'll do the first pass but never the second(it works if you set it to BD-25 and fast encode for BD25)
I suspect it's to do with the number of cores as it has no issue with single i7 systems

[By-Tor]

@By-Tor

Whe BD Rebuilder fails in an encode, I need to see what is causing the failure in X264.

In the BD Rebuilder folder there is a file called LASTCMD.TXT. It contains the last X264 command line executed. Open that file and cut the command to the clipboard. Then open a command windows (CMD.EXE) and paste the command. When it runs you should be able to see an error message from X264 when it fails. If you can report that it may help find a solution.

O.K will do as soon as other work finished on systems
thanx for getting back

[jdobbs]

Just thought I'd let you know, there's an issue when trying to encode on Dual Nehalem systems. All works fine unless you have field based VC-1.
If you try to encode field based VC-1 it doesn't like having the hyper-threading on. If you turn off hyper-threading and let the system just see the physical cores then it encodes them fine on high quality, but if you turn it on then it just fails to encode those files, sometimes it'll do the first pass but never the second(it works if you set it to BD-25 and fast encode for BD25)
I suspect it's to do with the number of cores as it has no issue with single i7 systems Hmmm... it might be because it is reading from an MKV on those, while all the other encodes are reading from an M2TS. What error do you get if you run it from a command line?

If you can try it from the command line (using the command in LASTCMD.TXT), see what happens if you remove the "--thread-input" parameter.

[Chiamos]

The "ultrafast" mode definitely sets bframes to "0" -- that's why it shows as baseline. I thought about adding "--bframes 3" to the command line to make it more consistent, but the real purpose of that setting is speed -- and in testing it this morning I found that it is 40% faster without the bframes.

If I start getting reports that the quality isn't good enough even on BD-25, I'll put the bframes back in.

Quality with High Speed, One Pass Encode and Keep HD Audio for both Full and Only Movie is really great and now so much faster. You got my vote to keep it always going faster.

[jefrey]

no ideas about my error message? :(

[leChameleon]

The Fast And The Furious (2001), Region A

BD-Rebuilder
-----------------------
[10:32:06] BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta)
- Source: TFATF
- Input BD size: 38.44 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:27:52.259]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[10:32:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:32:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [10:37:32] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 21)
- [10:37:32] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 153,864 frames
- Bitrate: 15,199 Kbs
- [10:37:32] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[10:40:00] - Failed video encode, aborted


Execute command in LASTCMD.TXT
----------------------------------
"D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "J:\BD25 4\THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS (2001)\WORKFILES\VID_00010.AVS" --preset slow --bitrate 15199 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "J:\BD25 4\THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS (2001)\WORKFILES\VID_00010.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL


x264 ERROR MESSAGE
---------------------
avis [error]: unsupported input format (DIB )
x264 [error]: could not open input file 'J:\BD25 4\THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS (2001)\WORKFILES\VID_00010.AVS'


...\WORKFILES\VID_00010.AVS
--------------------------------
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.27.01 (beta)
DirectshowSource("F:\TEMP - THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS (2001)\TFATF\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=153864, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()


Any idea why this might be failing?

[jdobbs]

no ideas about my error message? :( Try removing AVISYNTH, HAALI, and BD-RB. Then reinstall using the versions linked in the first post of this thread.

[Adbear]

Hmmm... it might be because it is reading from an MKV on those, while all the other encodes are reading from an M2TS. What error do you get if you run it from a command line?

If you can try it from the command line (using the command in LASTCMD.TXT), see what happens if you remove the "--thread-input" parameter.

Will give it a go on Monday when I'm back at the machine

[leChameleon]

Try removing AVISYNTH, HAALI, and BD-RB. Then reinstall using the versions linked in the first post of this thread. Was there any change between BD-RBV02603 and BD-RBV02701? I just completed a fresh install of OS and all the linked files a few days ago.

On 04-AUG-2009 all files were downloaded, seemed to work flawlessly.
BD-RBV02603
AVISYNTH
HAALI
FFSHOW

On 06-AUG-2009 only BD-RB was updated, then 3 failures thus far, none completed.
BD-RBV02701

[Chiamos]

Was there any change between BD-RBV02603 and BD-RBV02701? I just completed a fresh install of OS and all the linked files a few days ago.

On 04-AUG-2009 all files were downloaded, seemed to work flawlessly.
BD-RBV02603
AVISYNTH
HAALI
FFSHOW

On 06-AUG-2009 only BD-RB was updated, then 3 failures thus far, none completed.
BD-RBV02701

Since the fresh System install, then did you do as jdobbs suggested, as that is the usual fix? Reports that some always reinstall the necessary components with every BD-RB update and with like programs to reassure having no problems.

[jefrey]

I'Ve found the bug?!
if i select keep lpcm tracks, and disable encoding of 448 ac3 audio, THEN the error appears...

now ive enabled ac3 encoding @448 and now it works fine

[jdobbs]

I'Ve found the bug?!
if i select keep lpcm tracks, and disable encoding of 448 ac3 audio, THEN the error appears...

now ive enabled ac3 encoding @448 and now it works fine What disc are you doing? I'd like to run a test on it.

[jefrey]

the error is back againd, :scared:
source is vc1, t2 skynet edit, and planet terror
target is a bd 25gig backup:(

[jdobbs]

the error is back againd, :scared:
source is vc1, t2 skynet edit, and planet terror
target is a bd 25gig backup:( You know, you'd get a lot better response if you laid out the details a little better. What exactly do you mean "edit"?

[tekmobile]

You know, you'd get a lot better response if you laid out the details a little better. What exactly do you mean "edit"?

As a guess I would say its meaning

Terminator 2 Skynet Edition

[flamme-demon]

Hello, excuse me jdobbs of attention, but I did not get an answer to my question. I would like you to read or reread in order to meet me.

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1312152&postcount=4415

Thank you to you

[Furiousflea]

Hello, excuse me jdobbs of attention, but I did not get an answer to my question. I would like you to read or reread in order to meet me.

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1312152&postcount=4415

Thank you to you

He didn't answer because it's not a bug report but a feature request. I'm sure jdobbs is well aware that english isn't the only language in the world but may I ask if you're aware if the christian bible was translated to different languages before it was written?

The influx of 1-5 post people in this thread in desperation of pirating blurays is rather amusing.

[jdobbs]

He didn't answer because it's not a bug report but a feature request. I'm sure jdobbs is well aware that english isn't the only language in the world but may I ask if you're aware if the christian bible was translated to different languages before it was written?

The influx of 1-5 post people in this thread in desperation of pirating blurays is rather amusing. Exactly. Right now I'm more interested in making it work (e.g. PiP) than making it work in Latin... but things come to those who wait.

BTW, I started a thread long ago for DVD-RB in which I provided commands and asked people to translate for me -- I got one response. It is apparently not important enough to others to spend 20 minutes translating -- so it certainly isn't important enough for me to spend hours implementing.

[leChameleon]

Can someone shed more light on what the differences are behind the scene using Encoder Settings (A) High Quality, (B) Highest and (C) High-Speed Option for a BD-50 to BD-25 backup? I was trying to test these options to see if there is any difference and moreover any quality degradation between them. I'm unclear what the High-Speed Option really does that can't be done with High Quality and changing a few settings in Setup no to process the audio files.

[Adbear]

Hmmm... it might be because it is reading from an MKV on those, while all the other encodes are reading from an M2TS. What error do you get if you run it from a command line?

If you can try it from the command line (using the command in LASTCMD.TXT), see what happens if you remove the "--thread-input" parameter.

If I run the last command line I get '2nd pass has more frames than first pass (107070 vs 75)' with or without the '--thread-input' line, but if I turn off the hyper-threading in the BIOS it works fine

[flamme-demon]

Exactly. Right now I'm more interested in making it work (e.g. PiP) than making it work in Latin... but things come to those who wait.

BTW, I started a thread long ago for DVD-RB in which I provided commands and asked people to translate for me -- I got one response. It is apparently not important enough to others to spend 20 minutes translating -- so it certainly isn't important enough for me to spend hours implementing.


I hope a translation will be possible, the system. Ini file is very simple to translate.

DVD-RB we asked long ago the response has more than 1 year I am sorry but people had already migrated elsewhere for non-English speaking country.

Thank you for your reply and waits so this possibility

[daberti]

Exactly. Right now I'm more interested in making it work (e.g. PiP) than making it work in Latin... but things come to those who wait.

BTW, I started a thread long ago for DVD-RB in which I provided commands and asked people to translate for me -- I got one response. It is apparently not important enough to others to spend 20 minutes translating -- so it certainly isn't important enough for me to spend hours implementing.

Please point me to that thread and I'll be glad to make Italian translation :)

[jefrey]

Yes, terminator 2 skynet edition

[jdobbs]

Can someone shed more light on what the differences are behind the scene using Encoder Settings (A) High Quality, (B) Highest and (C) High-Speed Option for a BD-50 to BD-25 backup? I was trying to test these options to see if there is any difference and moreover any quality degradation between them. I'm unclear what the High-Speed Option really does that can't be done with High Quality and changing a few settings in Setup no to process the audio files. As the quality setting gets higher, more X264 quality-enhancing features are used. As these features are added, the encode speed slows down.

BD-RB begins with a set of consistent parameters that are always there for Blu-ray compliance (--keyint, --min-keyint, vbv-maxrate, vbv-bufsize, etc.). Then with each step up in the quality selection, it adds X264 features. The impact is that with each of these features the quality will improve at a given bitrate, while the extra processing slows down the encode. Why use them? As bitrate drops (such as when encoding to BD-5/9), the quality is difficult to retain, so you have to use these tools to keep the movie at a level where it is crisp, clear, and watchable.

You can get an idea of the features of X264 at this site (http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings). Pay particular attention to the section on PRESET -- which is what BD-RB uses since it was implement a few (x264) releases ago. It will also tell you what "tools" are employed for each of the settings below.

High Speed (BD-25) uses the "ultrafast" preset -- note that it uses only the very basic levels of AVC. It doesn't use CABAC, Trellis, 8x8dct -- pretty basic. As a result it runs as fast as X264 can go. On a BD-25 the bitrate for a given project is about 5x higher than a BD-5. So typically this setting is ok.

Good (Faster) = " --preset veryfast"
Better (Fast) = " --preset fast"
High Quality (Default) = " --preset medium"
Highest (Very Slow) = " --preset slow --ref 4 --b-adapt 1"

Note: The "--ref 4 --b-adapt" is added because by default the "--slow" setting sets "ref" to "5", but Blu-ray only permits a value of "4" or less for 1080p. "--b-adapt 1" is added to override the default value of "--b-adapt 2" -- because it really, really slows down the encode and I just don't see a corresponding improvement.

For people who don't care about time, there is also another "hidden" quality level. You can set it in the INI file:

ENCODE_QUALITY=4

Extreme Quality (Extremely Slow) = " --preset slower --ref 4 --b-adapt 1"

There are always new things being added to X264, it's a very active project. As they are added, they are implemented in BD-RB. The newest thing (x264 r1198) is "Macroblock Tree Rate Control" which can make some pretty dramatic quality differences.

[jdobbs]

Please point me to that thread and I'll be glad to make Italian translation :) It was probably back in 2004 or 2005... I tossed out the idea because of lack of interest.

[jdobbs]

If I run the last command line I get '2nd pass has more frames than first pass (107070 vs 75)' with or without the '--thread-input' line, but if I turn off the hyper-threading in the BIOS it works fine That just means the second pass couldn't be done becuase the first pass crashed at 75 frames. Try running both the first and second passes without "--thread-input" set (just change where it says "--pass 2" to "--pass 1").

[Adbear]

Even though it took nearly an hour to do the first pass and works with hyper-threading switched off?

Will I need to do this with all 3 files on the disc then?

[jefrey]

now the problem is gone, i've deleted the Config.ini from the BD rebuilder folder and now it run and run and run without errors. really strange

[Shuttle99]

Anyone done AVP2 movie only to BD9 I keep getting error failed to retrieve audio as soon as it starts?

[tekmobile]

Anyone done AVP2 movie only to BD9 I keep getting error failed to retrieve audio as soon as it starts?

No but ive done it full disc sucessfully to BD25.

Have you tried ripping the disc again

[leChameleon]

I think I may have found a bug in BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta).

Windows 7 (64-bit).... if I open the Setup form and enable [x] Remove WORKFILES after rebuild, then press Save Changes which should save the form options to disk and close the form. If I reopen the form that option is disabled [ ] Remove WORKFILES after rebuild.

Is this the expected behavior of the product or is there something resetting the GUI each time it's opened?

[leChameleon]

SETTINGS BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta)
-----------------------------------------
Mode:
[x] Full Backup
[x] Quicker Encode for Extras
Settings:
* Encoder = x264
* Encoder Settings:
[x] Normal Priority
[x] Highest
* Options = Target Size BD-25
[x] Verbose Status Reporting



VALKYRIE.INF BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta)
-----------------------------------------
[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.27.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00181]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=161535800
NSIZE=184645632
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00182]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=192287211
NSIZE=187392000
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00177]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=370272238
NSIZE=778070016
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00178]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=379302850
NSIZE=1013809152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00175]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=407406470
NSIZE=925132800
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00172]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=493466521
NSIZE=1117188096
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00176]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=860912620
NSIZE=1654714368
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00183]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=914677858
NSIZE=777326592
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00184]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=5307561551
RATE=5514
NSIZE=272670720
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=16838596203
RATE=13160
NSIZE=3913721856
FLINK=0
MLINK=0



VALKYRIE BD-REBUILDER.LOG
-----------------------------------------
[02:24:28] BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta)
- Source: VALKYRIE
- Input BD size: 39.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:24:24.653]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[02:24:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
...
[06:04:19]PHASE ONE complete
[06:04:19]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:04:19] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[06:04:24] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[06:04:25]JOB: VALKYRIE finished.


The final data size output is 11.2 GB. The same settings were run on SLING BLADE and TAKEN which yielded the same results.

I'm attempting to test and see if the video encode options affect any of the audio options.

What I'm not clear about is why is the final size about half of 25 GB for all three Blu-ray DVD's?

The same job was submitted using the High-Speed encoding option and the final file size was just under 25 GB which one would expect.


SLING_BLADE BD-REBUILDER.LOG
-----------------------------------------
[23:58:36] BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta)
- Source: SLING_BLADE
- Input BD size: 45.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:33:04.986]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[23:58:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
...
[02:22:30]PHASE ONE complete
[02:22:30]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:22:30] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[02:22:41] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[02:22:42]JOB: SLING_BLADE finished.

Final size 12.3 GB

Sorry the information for TAKEN was deleted.

[leChameleon]

SETTINGS BD Rebuilder v0.26.03 (beta)
-----------------------------------------
Mode:
[x] Full Backup
[x] Quicker Encode for Extras
Settings:
* Encoder = x264
* Encoder Settings:
[x] Normal Priority
[x] Highest
* Options = Target Size BD-25
[x] Verbose Status Reporting

PRIDE_PREJUDICE_D1.INF BD Rebuilder v0.26.03 (beta)
-----------------------------------------
[Status]
LABEL=PRIDE_PREJUDICE_D1
VERSION=v0.26.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=46737024412
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=46408544256
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.51259457122326
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=5
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00004]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=6008845819
RATE=11649
NSIZE=5893945344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=12598
RATE=500
NSIZE=12288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00007]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=5995517638
RATE=11647
NSIZE=5880913920
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00008]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=5931194680
RATE=11640
NSIZE=5817563136
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00009]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=5853197109
RATE=11641
NSIZE=5741408256
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


PRIDE_PREJUDICE_D1 BD-REBUILDER.LOG
-----------------------------------------
[01:46:03] BD Rebuilder v0.26.03 (beta)
- Source: PRIDE_PREJUDICE_D1
- Input BD size: 43.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:40:30.383]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[01:46:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:46:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [01:48:31] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 5)
- [05:02:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [05:02:51] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 5)
- [05:02:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [05:05:56] Reencoding: VID_00007 (3 of 5)
- [08:20:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [08:23:27] Reencoding: VID_00008 (4 of 5)
- [11:36:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [11:38:50] Reencoding: VID_00009 (5 of 5)
[14:49:24]PHASE ONE complete
[14:49:24]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:49:24] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[14:49:28] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[14:49:29]JOB: PRIDE_PREJUDICE_D1 finished.

Final size 23.6 GB as one would expect.

[leChameleon]

Windows 7 (64-bit).... Setup form: When selecting [x] All Languages (all) under both Audio Languages to Keep and Subtitle Languages to Keep then pressing Save Changes to write these settings to disk and close the form, I find it does reflect the corresponding reference in the main BD-RB window under Stream. It appears to keep only the first English setting and disable other English audio and subtitle.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8002/subsj.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7136/mainz.jpg

Notice here not ALL of the languages and subtitles are selected. Is this the expected behavior of the product?

You can't see it in the graphic but only 1 of each language in each category is selected, all other audio and subtitles are unselected.

[leChameleon]

Thank you jdobbs for answering my question about the encoding options (above). :) This helped quite a bit.

Is there anything behind these scene in these selections controlling the audio portion or is that strictly handled in the setup form only?

[chudm]

Windows 7 (64-bit).... Setup form: When selecting [x] All Languages (all) under both Audio Languages to Keep and Subtitle Languages to Keep then pressing Save Changes to write these settings to disk and close the form, I find it does reflect the corresponding reference in the main BD-RB window under Stream. It appears to keep only the first English setting and disable other English audio and subtitle.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8002/subsj.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7136/mainz.jpg

Notice here not ALL of the languages and subtitles are selected. Is this the expected behavior of the product?

You can't see it in the graphic but only 1 of each language in each category is selected, all other audio and subtitles are unselected.

you have to deactivate the option: limit to one track for each language

[Shuttle99]

Anyone done AVP2 movie only to BD9 I keep getting error failed to retrieve audio as soon as it starts?

So I need more help, I did a full backup BD-9 and it made it through and completed. Now after I burned the disc my Panasonic BD55 player won't play it and says unsupported disc also does not play in PS3. What do I have to do to make it compatible? Also movie only works just fine just no full backups work.Thanks

[leChameleon]

you have to deactivate the option: limit to one track for each language Understood, I guess what I was referring to is more of a usability model. One might consider ALL to mean all when its not the case if the other condition is set.

Perhaps it may be clearer if there are two options in the list field.

Audio Languages to Keep:
(*) All Languages "All Tracks"
( ) All Languages "One Track Per Language"

Subtitle Languages to Keep:
(*) All Languages "All Subtitles"
( ) All Languages "One Subtitle Per Language"

This way the form acts like a radio button and is mutually exclusive rather than dependent.

[jdobbs]

Even though it took nearly an hour to do the first pass and works with hyper-threading switched off?

Will I need to do this with all 3 files on the disc then? I have no idea how it happened... but if it says there are only 75 frames -- there are only 75 frames.

[jdobbs]

I think I may have found a bug in BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta).

Windows 7 (64-bit).... if I open the Setup form and enable [x] Remove WORKFILES after rebuild, then press Save Changes which should save the form options to disk and close the form. If I reopen the form that option is disabled [ ] Remove WORKFILES after rebuild.

Is this the expected behavior of the product or is there something resetting the GUI each time it's opened?Yep. It was set properly, but wasn't being initialized in the checkbox when the dialog opened. I fixed it for the next version.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Understood, I guess what I was referring to is more of a usability model. One might consider ALL to mean all when its not the case if the other condition is set.

Perhaps it may be clearer if there are two options in the list field.

Audio Languages to Keep:
(*) All Languages "All Tracks"
( ) All Languages "One Track Per Language"

Subtitle Languages to Keep:
(*) All Languages "All Subtitles"
( ) All Languages "One Subtitle Per Language"

This way the form acts like a radio button and is mutually exclusive rather than dependent.
I believe it is consistent. Consider if you say "I want all the candy in the bowl" -- and then you further deliniate by saying "But I want no more than one piece of each flavor" -- do you still have the entire bowl?

[jdobbs]

[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=16838596203
RATE=13160
NSIZE=3913721856
FLINK=0
MLINK=0 It looks like the last M2TS file in the list (of SLINGBLADE example you posted) massively undersized... by about 13GB. Are you sure it completed? Does is playback end-to-end?

Sometimes (especially when you use "Quick Encode for Extras") you may get to the largest of the files and find that there is way too much space available -- and the encoder "saturates". That means it hits its highest level of quality (QP=10) and refuses to use all the available space (as it would be wasted). I've see that happen before, but never to that level...

One way to check is to open up the .stats file and look at the values for Q for each frame. If you see a lot of "10s" in there -- you are saturating.

[worknstiff]

FWIW. I have found that the movie only rebuilds I have done all work in my DMP-BD30 EXCEPT the ones that have lots of m2ts files chained together. Ex. Watchmen 25 .m2ts files & BSG_4.5 Disk 3 with 28 .m2ts files. These movies were completed and burned, they look great but freeze up when FF or Chapter skip is used on STB. They do how ever play correctly in PDVD & TMT2 on my computer. Is there a maximum limit to how many files you can put together in TsMuxer and still get a file that some but not all players can play? Am I the only one that has this problem?

[equad]

Thx for the beta, been playing around with this program for a few weeks now and it really is great! Have done several successful movies but currently having a problem.

I used Txmuxer (tsMuxeR_1.10.6) to remove main movie down to 1 file (1 audio/1video/1sub). I then used BD-RBV02602 to successfully resize for BD-25.
I then used Txmuxer to take the same movie and chop it into 17x 2GB segments (1 audio/1video/1sub) and i am getting a fail

[16:54:23] BD Rebuilder v0.26.02 (beta)
- Source: MEMOIRS_OF_A_GEISHA2
- Input BD size: 30.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:25:08.694]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[16:54:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:54:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [16:54:48] Reencoding: VID_00016 (1 of 17)
- [18:38:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [18:38:54] Reencoding: VID_00010 (2 of 17)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[18:38:55] - Failed video encode, aborted

LASTCMD
"C:\Documents and Settings\equad\Desktop\BD-RBV02602\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "G:\RDY\BD\WORKFILES\VID_00010.AVS" --slow-firstpass --bitrate 15584 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me dia --bframes 3 --direct auto --partitions none --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --stats "G:\RDY\BD\WORKFILES\VID_00010.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL

Workfile
[Status]
LABEL=MEMOIRS_OF_A_GEISHA2
VERSION=v0.26.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=32726097404
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=32725948416
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.736941179073941
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=1
[00016]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=551663083
RATE=14642
NSIZE=523302912
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=1473408404
RATE=15584


Any thoughts? Noticed the time it takes to convert 17x 2GB files would be much faster then doing 1x 34GB file (Not sure why, but may just be something with my system or the constant workload).

[Capsbackup]

FWIW. I have found that the movie only rebuilds I have done all work in my DMP-BD30 EXCEPT the ones that have lots of m2ts files chained together. Ex. Watchmen 25 .m2ts files & BSG_4.5 Disk 3 with 28 .m2ts files. These movies were completed and burned, they look great but freeze up when FF or Chapter skip is used on STB. They do how ever play correctly in PDVD & TMT2 on my computer. Is there a maximum limit to how many files you can put together in TsMuxer and still get a file that some but not all players can play? Am I the only one that has this problem?

Just for a test, try to use clownbd on the original, selecting only the audio and subtitles you want to keep, and let it create a new Blu-Ray. Clownbd will create a new movie with only one .m2ts. Then run BD-RB on this newly created Blu-Ray, creating a new AVCHD movie only. I would suggest a BD-5 size that can be burned to DVD+RW.
I have found, on a few discs that have multi .m2ts files, that this new movie only will not have FF/RW/change chapters issues.
If you do not select FF or skip chapter, does the movie play through correctly?
The ones that I tried played fine all the way through as long as I did not FF/RW or change chapters.

[Capsbackup]

@equad;
I used Txmuxer (tsMuxeR_1.10.6) to remove main movie down to 1 file (1 audio/1video/1sub). I then used BD-RBV02602 to successfully resize for BD-25.
I then used Txmuxer to take the same movie and chop it into 17x 2GB segments (1 audio/1video/1sub) and i am getting a fail

If I am reading this correctly, this does not sound like a BD-RB problem. Any preprocessing of files is not supported by jdobbs, nor should he be expected to help track down a problem like you have here. :readrule:

[setarip_old]

@equad

Hi!Source: MEMOIRS_OF_A_GEISHA2Is this something different than the 2007 BluRay release of "Memoirs of a Geisha"?

If it's a sequel, or yet something different, would you please let me know where I can purchase it?

Thank you.

[equad]

@equad

Hi!Is this something different than the 2007 BluRay release of "Memoirs of a Geisha"?

If it's a sequel, or yet something different, would you please let me know where I can purchase it?

Thank you.

No this is the 2007 BluRay release of "Memoirs of a Geisha"?
I have many copies of this on my HDD that ive been playing around with BD-RB with (Labled 2, 3, 4, 5...).

[equad]

@equad;


If I am reading this correctly, this does not sound like a BD-RB problem. Any preprocessing of files is not supported by jdobbs, nor should he be expected to help track down a problem like you have here. :readrule:

Sorry i am fairly new to these forums, though i have read probably the last 50 pages of this posting. I thought Jdobbs laid it out in the first post (I cannot find these "rules", please point them out). "Post bugs here". I am not asking, nor need help with tsMuxeR. I am reporting a scenerio that i thought should of worked in BD-RB and resulted in failure of BD-RB. Ive learned in earlier posts to be very specific and include last cmd, workfiles, ect. If you are saying this forum is for "full disc" testing right now, it may fall outside of the scope of this forum. But as far as im concerned a snipped movie should have less reasons to fail then a full disc, but i am no expert.

[Capsbackup]

equad;
BD-RB is for movie only or full backups, on a clean ripped Blu-Ray source with Anydvdhd or other equivalent ripper.
Using other programs, like tsMuxeR, clownbd, eac3to, etc... takes away jdobbs ability to track down bugs. So if you want to preprocess or post process, you can't expect help from this thread.

[setarip_old]

@equad

Thanks for clarifying ;>}

[equad]

equad;
BD-RB is for movie only or full backups, on a clean ripped Blu-Ray source with Anydvdhd or other equivalent ripper.
Using other programs, like tsMuxeR, clownbd, eac3to, etc... takes away jdobbs ability to track down bugs. So if you want to preprocess or post process, you can't expect help from this thread.

Sounds good. Will try to see if i can split file size of my "main movie" content with AnydvdHD or DVDfab. May solve my problem right there. If not i will repost. Else it looks like i may have to wait for the software to get out of beta :P

[GaPony]

Sorry i am fairly new to these forums, though i have read probably the last 50 pages of this posting. I thought Jdobbs laid it out in the first post (I cannot find these "rules", please point them out). "Post bugs here". I am not asking, nor need help with tsMuxeR. I am reporting a scenerio that i thought should of worked in BD-RB and resulted in failure of BD-RB. Ive learned in earlier posts to be very specific and include last cmd, workfiles, ect. If you are saying this forum is for "full disc" testing right now, it may fall outside of the scope of this forum. But as far as im concerned a snipped movie should have less reasons to fail then a full disc, but i am no expert.


Maybe this will clarify it...



Yes on both counts. BD-RB is beta software -- which by definition means there are bugs. Why multiply that?

The same is true for preprocessed sources. I feel fairly confident that a bug reported on a commercial source is legitimate. But preprocessing doesn't only have to take into consideration the software in use -- but also the decisions made by the person sitting in front of the computer. Powerful software like TSMUXER and others also give the user a large amount of control --resulting in a high probability of problems.

Here's an example: TSMUXER will let you mux a stream into BD format that is completely outside the BD standard.

I have in the past, and always will refuse to respond to bug reports on preprocessed sources. Why? Because in more than 90% of the cases in my experience that involved preprocessed sources -- the preprocessing was the cause of the error, and I spent way too much time crawling down rabbit holes trying to find an error that didn't exist.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't preprocess for whatever reason you want... I just ask that you not report any issues until you try the same reencode on the original source.

[equad]

Maybe this will clarify it...

Thx, that will def. help me in making what i am trying to do work. I was not aware that TSMUXER streamed into a odd format.

Of course I did successfully encode the Original Full BD copied through Anydvdhd and the original "Movie Only" taken out from TSMUXER into 1 file. So as that points out if i have successfully reecncoded the original source (I have!) someone may be interested in seeing the findings :P

[daberti]

It was probably back in 2004 or 2005... I tossed out the idea because of lack of interest.

Got it .

[jdobbs]

FWIW. I have found that the movie only rebuilds I have done all work in my DMP-BD30 EXCEPT the ones that have lots of m2ts files chained together. Ex. Watchmen 25 .m2ts files & BSG_4.5 Disk 3 with 28 .m2ts files. These movies were completed and burned, they look great but freeze up when FF or Chapter skip is used on STB. They do how ever play correctly in PDVD & TMT2 on my computer. Is there a maximum limit to how many files you can put together in TsMuxer and still get a file that some but not all players can play? Am I the only one that has this problem? I found one example in which it had issues when the number of chapters got over 32 -- don't know why, though. Others worked fine.

[worknstiff]

Just for a test, try to use clownbd on the original, selecting only the audio and subtitles you want to keep, and let it create a new Blu-Ray. Clownbd will create a new movie with only one .m2ts. Then run BD-RB on this newly created Blu-Ray, creating a new AVCHD movie only. I would suggest a BD-5 size that can be burned to DVD+RW.
I have found, on a few discs that have multi .m2ts files, that this new movie only will not have FF/RW/change chapters issues.
If you do not select FF or skip chapter, does the movie play through correctly?
The ones that I tried played fine all the way through as long as I did not FF/RW or change chapters.
Hi Capsbackup, I am running ClownBD and will see if this will work on the chapter seek problem. Like you said it plays all the way thru if you leave it alone so I don't think it is in the rip or the encode but its funny that it just messes up the multi m2ts file movies. It even works on the ones that have a dozen or less m2ts files.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to BD-RB v0.28.01. Updates for this version:- Added a Batch processing feature. This allows you
to queue up multiple jobs, especially useful when
you decide to let BD-RB run overnight. Right-click
in the batch area to see action options.
- Rewrote the MPLS update routines to better handle
SubPath() updates related to remuxing of secondary
audio and video streams. Also fixed the updating
of pip_metadata() tables. This should correct the
remaining issues with PiP video processing with
the exception of DTS secondary audio demuxing and
muxing.
- Added a "hidden" option to force encoding (helpful
when using filters) even when the source would fit
in the output. You can set it by adding the line
"FORCE_ENCODING=1" to the "[Options]" area of the
config file (INI).
- Updated some encode settings to ensure Blu-ray/4.1
compliance for the "Highest Quality" mode.
- Upgraded the included X264 executable to r1198. This
version includes "Macroblock Tree Rate Control". It
should produce higher quality if you are using the
"Better, High Quality, or Highest" encoding settings.
Note: This is really cool -- Dark Shikari rules.
- Corrected an error in which the "Remove WORKFILES"
option was not being correctly set at dialog startup.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Kakashi Sensei]

I have a quick question. Trying to do a backup of Golden Compass RA North American BD. Problem is there are 2 vid sets. One 24GB that has just the main movie, the second has the main movie with a hard coded PiP. Is there a way i can just blank out the second m2ts so BD-RB will just take the main movie and keep the menus?

Thanks!

[jdobbs]

I have a quick question. Trying to do a backup of Golden Compass RA North American BD. Problem is there are 2 vid sets. One 24GB that has just the main movie, the second has the main movie with a hard coded PiP. Is there a way i can just blank out the second m2ts so BD-RB will just take the main movie and keep the menus?

Thanks!Eventually, but not yet.

[Capsbackup]

Thanks for the update. I will try another run at Beowulf and see how PiP turns out. The only other movie I have with PiP and DD Plus is Batman Begins, and for some reason, this movie was successful for the PiP backup, but the main movie will not have audio sync.
Have you experienced this with this movie?

[DK]

- Added a Batch processing feature.

that's really great news - thanx so much!

[Adbear]

I have a quick question. Trying to do a backup of Golden Compass RA North American BD. Problem is there are 2 vid sets. One 24GB that has just the main movie, the second has the main movie with a hard coded PiP. Is there a way i can just blank out the second m2ts so BD-RB will just take the main movie and keep the menus?

Thanks!
You could just move that file out of the folders completely then see if the original disc structure still works, if it does then you could just re-encode with it removed from the folders

[chudm]

I have a quick question. Trying to do a backup of Golden Compass RA North American BD. Problem is there are 2 vid sets. One 24GB that has just the main movie, the second has the main movie with a hard coded PiP. Is there a way i can just blank out the second m2ts so BD-RB will just take the main movie and keep the menus?

Thanks!

that would be great :D if we can choose what to keep on the bluray or not, we will have to wait ;)

[jdobbs]

I have a quick question. Trying to do a backup of Golden Compass RA North American BD. Problem is there are 2 vid sets. One 24GB that has just the main movie, the second has the main movie with a hard coded PiP. Is there a way i can just blank out the second m2ts so BD-RB will just take the main movie and keep the menus?

Thanks!You could just move that file out of the folders completely then see if the original disc structure still works, if it does then you could just re-encode with it removed from the foldersthat would be great :D if we can choose what to keep on the bluray or not, we will have to wait ;)This is a "Bug Reports Only" thread. If you have a feature request, please put it in the "Feature Requests" thread. It's getting really hard to find bug reports here with all the extraneous discussions.

[jdobbs]

Updated the first post of this thread with a new version of BD-RB (v0.28.02). Changes:[v0.28.02]
- Updated the one-pass CRF routine to prevent a rare
but possible "forever loop".
- Fixed an error introduced in v0.28.01 that could
cause timing issues on some very small sources.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[v0.28.01]
- Added a Batch processing feature. This allows you
to queue up multiple jobs, especially useful when
you decide to let BD-RB run overnight. Right-click
in the batch area to see action options.
- Rewrote the MPLS update routines to better handle
SubPath() updates related to remuxing of secondary
audio and video streams. Also fixed the updating
of pip_metadata() tables. This should correct the
remaining issues with PiP video processing with
the exception of DTS audio demuxing/muxing.
- Added a "hidden" option to force encoding (helpful
when using filters) even when the source would fit
in the output. You can set it by adding the line
"FORCE_ENCODING=1" to the "[Options]" area of the
config file (INI).
- Updated some encode settings to ensure Blu-ray/4.1
compliance for the "Highest Quality" mode.
- Upgraded the included X264 executable to r1198. This
version includes "Macroblock Tree Rate Control". It
should produce higher quality if you are using the
"Better, High Quality, or Highest" encoding settings.
Note: This is really cool -- Dark Shikari rules.
- Corrected an error in which the "Remove WORKFILES"
option was not being correctly set at dialog startup.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Sharc]

Updated the first post of this thread with a new version of BD-RB (v0.28.02). Changes:
[v0.28.01]

- Added a "hidden" option to force encoding (helpful
when using filters) even when the source would fit
in the output. You can set it by adding the line
"FORCE_ENCODING=1" to the "[Options]" area of the
config file (INI).
Cool. Together with the .mkv intermediate step it helps a lot with difficult interlaced vc-1 sources.

Added:
v0.28.02:
But unfortunately the FORCE_ENCODING=1 in the [Options] section seems to have no effect. The small source is still skipped.
I can only force the encoding by setting the target size low ...

[jdobbs]

Cool. Together with the .mkv intermediate step it helps a lot with difficult interlaced vc-1 sources.

Added:
v0.28.02:
But unfortunately the FORCE_ENCODING=1 in the [Options] section seems to have no effect. The small source is still skipped.
I can only force the encoding by setting the target size low ... I guess I misunderstood. I didn't configure it to do the ones that weren't in the streams list.

[Capsbackup]

A big congrats jdobbs, PiP backup of Beowulf with BD-RBv2801 was a success!! No more freezing picture. Play back on my BX1 is absolutely perfect.
Your efforts and time spent to accomplish this is appreciated. :thanks:

EDIT:
Very fast too! Approx. 2:08:00 for BD-RB to reencode, 5:00 to build image and 45:00 to burn with IMGBurn. Awesome!! :D

[jdobbs]

A big congrats jdobbs, PiP backup of Beowulf with BD-RBv2801 was a success!! No more freezing picture. Play back on my BX1 is absolutely perfect.
Your efforts and time spent to accomplish this is appreciated. :thanks:

EDIT:
Very fast too! Approx. 2:08:00 for BD-RB to reencode, 5:00 to build image and 45:00 to burn with IMGBurn. Awesome!! :D Good news. I've been burning the midnight oil trying to get it right...

[dianasta]

Hi,

I'm working on full backup X_FILES_2 and getting the following error with v0.28.02


-----------------------
[18:22:37] BD Rebuilder v0.28.02 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_US
- Input BD size: 43.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:33:28.683]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[18:22:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:22:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized.
Please, verify stream fps. File name: I:\BDMV\STREAM\00012.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized.
Please, verify stream fps. File name: I:\BDMV\STREAM\00012.m2ts
[18:22:49] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[18:23:11] BD Rebuilder v0.28.02 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_US
- Input BD size: 43.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:33:28.683]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[18:23:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:23:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [18:23:17] Reencoding: VID_00041 (1 of 38)
- [18:23:17] Collecting video information
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps, 30 frames
- [18:23:17] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:23:20] Video Encode complete
- [18:23:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:23:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:23:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [18:23:22] Reencoding: VID_00017 (2 of 38)
- [18:23:22] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:23:24] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 120 frames
- [18:23:24] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:23:30] Video Encode complete
- [18:23:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:23:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:23:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [18:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00030 (3 of 38)
- [18:23:33] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [18:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:23:35] Video Encode complete
- [18:23:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:23:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:23:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [18:23:38] Reencoding: VID_00028 (4 of 38)
- [18:23:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,515 frames
- [18:23:38] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:24:44] Video Encode complete
- [18:24:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:24:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:24:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [18:24:50] Reencoding: VID_00031 (5 of 38)
- [18:24:50] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,088 frames
- [18:24:50] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:26:34] Video Encode complete
- [18:26:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:26:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:26:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [18:26:39] Reencoding: VID_00034 (6 of 38)
- [18:26:39] Collecting video information
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps, 11,285 frames
- [18:26:39] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:28:51] Video Encode complete
- [18:28:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:28:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:28:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [18:29:15] Reencoding: VID_00004 (7 of 38)
- [18:29:15] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:29:24] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,866 frames
- [18:29:24] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:30:47] Video Encode complete
- [18:30:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:30:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:30:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [18:30:55] Reencoding: VID_00032 (8 of 38)
- [18:30:55] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,736 frames
- [18:30:55] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:32:54] Video Encode complete
- [18:32:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:32:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:32:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [18:33:01] Reencoding: VID_00029 (9 of 38)
- [18:33:01] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,823 frames
- [18:33:02] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:35:11] Video Encode complete
- [18:35:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:35:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:35:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized.
Please, verify stream fps. File name: I:\BDMV\STREAM\00012.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized.
Please, verify stream fps. File name: I:\BDMV\STREAM\00012.m2ts
[18:35:23] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[leChameleon]

It looks like the last M2TS file in the list (of SLINGBLADE example you posted) massively undersized... by about 13GB. Are you sure it completed? Does is playback end-to-end?

Sometimes (especially when you use "Quick Encode for Extras") you may get to the largest of the files and find that there is way too much space available -- and the encoder "saturates". That means it hits its highest level of quality (QP=10) and refuses to use all the available space (as it would be wasted). I've see that happen before, but never to that level...

One way to check is to open up the .stats file and look at the values for Q for each frame. If you see a lot of "10s" in there -- you are saturating.Here are the results from the same exact run, same settings, same machine, etc... with BD Rebuilder v0.26.03.

SLING_BLADE.INF BD Rebuilder v0.26.03
--------------------------------------
[Status]
LABEL=SLING_BLADE
VERSION=v0.26.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=49329246396
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=48674899968
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.482032866784011
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=49
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00613]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=10111111111100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=15806352106
RATE=10385
NSIZE=15301140480
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00616]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=123232589
RATE=2603
NSIZE=123113472
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00630]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=1058609701
RATE=2624
NSIZE=1058211840
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00631]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=192892617
RATE=2613
NSIZE=192565248
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00643]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=208929734
RATE=2610
NSIZE=208637952
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00644]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=181905044
RATE=2594
NSIZE=181721088
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00645]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=554428188
RATE=2636
NSIZE=553758720
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00651]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=85169978
RATE=2561
NSIZE=85112832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00652]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=111235107
RATE=2656
NSIZE=111095808
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00655]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=105077920
RATE=2634
NSIZE=104792064
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00656]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=7904537
RATE=7902
NSIZE=7335936
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00658]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=7883806
RATE=8159
NSIZE=7643136
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00659]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=172297581
RATE=12988
NSIZE=166877184
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00660]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=249089165
RATE=11360
NSIZE=241784832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00661]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=111069257
RATE=12823
NSIZE=107464704
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00662]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=220672518
RATE=12952
NSIZE=213688320
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00663]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=182307823
RATE=12291
NSIZE=176750592
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00696]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=8100003
RATE=8109
NSIZE=7796736
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00697]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=8088157
RATE=8097
NSIZE=7882752
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00698]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=8058541
RATE=8065
NSIZE=7858176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00700]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=187404753
RATE=12648
NSIZE=181721088
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00701]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=170724966
RATE=8210
NSIZE=165758976
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00702]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=164185731
RATE=7656
NSIZE=159197184
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00703]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=73353155
RATE=8126
NSIZE=71055360
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00706]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=122145678
RATE=8039
NSIZE=118536192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00722]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=7895652
RATE=7893
NSIZE=7311360
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00723]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=187404753
RATE=12648
NSIZE=181702656
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00728]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=55162947
RATE=2595
NSIZE=55025664
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00729]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=89502814
RATE=2597
NSIZE=89149440
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00730]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=166540211
RATE=2611
NSIZE=166275072
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00731]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=100049107
RATE=2607
NSIZE=99944448
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00732]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=131371093
RATE=2620
NSIZE=131217408
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00733]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=189797734
RATE=2623
NSIZE=189566976
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00734]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=98953311
RATE=2614
NSIZE=98936832
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00735]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=157362182
RATE=2542
NSIZE=157132800
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00736]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=135348536
RATE=2603
NSIZE=135192576
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00737]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=60025910
RATE=2595
NSIZE=59412480
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00738]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=228772521
RATE=2551
NSIZE=228710400
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00739]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=83905371
RATE=2574
NSIZE=83767296
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00741]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=298349623
RATE=2626
NSIZE=297940992
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00742]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=176651148
RATE=2612
NSIZE=176351232
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00743]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=147591831
RATE=2635
NSIZE=147320832
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00744]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=329304370
RATE=2618
NSIZE=328765440
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00745]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=169247123
RATE=2614
NSIZE=168990720
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00746]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=118603593
RATE=2614
NSIZE=118327296
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00747]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=82581531
RATE=2633
NSIZE=82397184
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00748]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=198318286
RATE=2615
NSIZE=197984256
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00749]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=49064992
RATE=2591
NSIZE=48918528
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00750]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=79978276
RATE=2581
NSIZE=79804416
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


BD-REBUILDER.LOG
--------------------------------------
[01:43:03] BD Rebuilder v0.26.03 (beta)
- Source: SLING_BLADE
- Input BD size: 45.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:33:04.986]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[01:43:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
...
[13:15:47]PHASE ONE complete
[13:15:47]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:15:47] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[13:15:56] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[13:15:57]JOB: SLING_BLADE finished.


Final size is 23.6 GB. What gives between v0.26.03 and v0.27.01?

[jdobbs]

Here are the results from the same exact run, same settings, same machine, etc... with BD Rebuilder v0.26.03.



BD-REBUILDER.LOG
--------------------------------------
[01:43:03] BD Rebuilder v0.26.03 (beta)
- Source: SLING_BLADE
- Input BD size: 45.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:33:04.986]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[01:43:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
...
[13:15:47]PHASE ONE complete
[13:15:47]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:15:47] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[13:15:56] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[13:15:57]JOB: SLING_BLADE finished.


Final size is 23.6 GB. What gives between v0.26.03 and v0.27.01? I don't know. You didn't post the information for Slingblade in your earlier posts.

I can tell you, though, that 0.27.1 uses a newer version of X264 and it is the first version where PRESETS are used. That means the the "--ultrafast" option was used for your encoding. I've done a lot of encoding with that setting, though, and have never seen undersizing anywhere near the extent that you're seeing -- and yours is the only report of it.

[leChameleon]

I don't know. You didn't post the information for Slingblade in your earlier posts.

I can tell you, though, that 0.27.1 uses a newer version of X264 and it is the first version where PRESETS are used. That means the the "--ultrafast" option was used for your encoding. I've done a lot of encoding with that setting, though, and have never seen undersizing anywhere near the extent that you're seeing -- and yours is the only report of it.Oh sorry... it was the same run as Valkyrie showing a very reduced data size. I'm rerunning Valkyrie now with v0.28.2 to see what it does.

I figured there was some change between *26 and *27 since the results were so different.

I completely uninstalled all required software for BD-RB and reinstalled it fresh after rebooting with *28.2. We'll see what this run yields... fingers crossed.

Thanks for letting me know the differences in *26 and *27. :)

[Adbear]

That just means the second pass couldn't be done becuase the first pass crashed at 75 frames. Try running both the first and second passes without "--thread-input" set (just change where it says "--pass 2" to "--pass 1").I ran the first pass as requested with hyper-threading on and it only encodes 75 frames then stops, doesn't come up with any error, just finishes as if it thinks that's the whole file. Turn hyper-threading back off and it goes through fine.
The same discs work fine on a standard i7 with hyper-threading, just not on a Dual Xeon i7 system

[Furiousflea]

I'm getting this error

08/10/09 [00:47:32] RebuildBDFiles() 00075 2202
08/10/09 [09:02:43] CorrectMPLS() 00063 2408

With...

Pinnochio
Resident Evil Degeneration

Cheers for nailing the PiP problems...This i assume is just some final teething problem.

[jdobbs]

I'm getting this error



With...

Pinnochio
Resident Evil Degeneration

Cheers for nailing the PiP problems...This i assume is just some final teething problem. Did you get both errors on each source? Also, were you using v0.28.01 or v0.28.02?

The first one is in the routine that copies files from the original to the destination directory. It says that the path was bad... odd because there haven't been any changes in that section for a long time. Any chance the source path was unmounted or corrupted in some way?

The second one is in an area of new code I added for the PiP processing where it updates the pip tables in the extension area, so it's likely I've made some kind of mistake there. I'll probably have to find one of those two titles to fix it (I don't own either).

It may be possible that that first error cause the second one -- but I don't know until I do some testing.

[Edit] I think I've found the source of the second one. I made a classic mistake by concentrating only on the PiP when testing -- I check the extension area of the MPLS for PiP without first checking whether extension data even exists! I'll see if I can find anything on the first error and post a fix early today.

[leChameleon]

Valkyrie (2008) Region A: BD-RBV02603

BD-RBV02603 VALKYRIE.INF
----------------------------------------------
[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.26.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=13775500522
RATE=10005
NSIZE=13321525248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00172]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=493466521
RATE=6451
NSIZE=481892352
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00175]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=407406470
RATE=6451
NSIZE=398475264
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00176]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=860912620
RATE=6451
NSIZE=841138176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00177]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=370272238
RATE=6449
NSIZE=361598976
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00178]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=379302850
RATE=6450
NSIZE=370563072
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00181]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=161535800
RATE=9577
NSIZE=156776448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00182]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=192287211
RATE=9624
NSIZE=186691584
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00183]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=914677858
RATE=2667
NSIZE=902025216
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00184]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6194183489
RATE=6476
NSIZE=6046654464
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


BD-RBV02603 BD-REBUILDER.LOG
----------------------------------------------
[18:51:40] BD Rebuilder v0.26.03 (beta)
- Source: VALKYRIE
- Input BD size: 39.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:24:24.653]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[18:51:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:51:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [18:57:13] Collecting video information [00074]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 173,130 frames
- Bitrate: 10,005 Kbs
- [18:57:13] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:16:51] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:58:23] Video Encode complete
...
[09:04:35]PHASE ONE complete
[09:04:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:04:35] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[09:04:41] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[09:04:41]JOB: VALKYRIE finished.

Final size = 23.4 GB as expected.


Valkyrie (2008) Region A: BD-RBV02701
The information for BD-RBV02701 has already been posted.


Valkyrie (2008) Region A: BD-RBV02802

BD-RBV02802 VALKYRIE.INF
----------------------------------------------

[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.28.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
COMPLETED=1
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=13775500522
RATE=10005
NSIZE=3916130304
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00172]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=493466521
RATE=6451


BD-RBV02802 BD-REBUILDER.LOG
----------------------------------------------
[16:59:13] BD Rebuilder v0.28.02 (beta)
- Source: VALKYRIE
- Input BD size: 39.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:24:24.653]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[16:59:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:59:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [17:04:47] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 10)
- [17:04:47] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 173,130 frames
- Bitrate: 10,005 Kbs
- [17:04:47] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:00:51] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:18:33] Video Encode complete
- [18:18:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:18:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:20:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00172]
- [18:20:27] Reencoding: VID_00172 (2 of 10)
- [18:20:27] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 16,429 frames
- Bitrate: 6,451 Kbs
- [18:20:27] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:20:31] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[18:20:33] - Failed video encode, aborted

BD-RBV02802 LASTCMD.TXT
----------------------------------------------
"D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02802\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe"
"J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS" --preset slow
--ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --bitrate 6451 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001
--aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1
--pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --thread-input
--stats "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats"
--pass 2 --output "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV"


CMD: LASTCMD.TXT
----------------------------------------------
x264 [error]: can't open output file `J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV'

Correct since the file does not exist.



There is obviously something going on between these three builds.

[jdobbs]

Correct since the file does not exist. Not really. It should overwrite it or at least prompt to overwrite it. Does something else have the file open?

I'm confused. What happened to all the other M2TS files that were in your original post (the order is different now)?

[Chefkoch_ico]

[v0.28.01]- Rewrote the MPLS update routines to better handle
SubPath() updates related to remuxing of secondary
audio and video streams. Also fixed the updating
of pip_metadata() tables. This should correct the
remaining issues with PiP video processing with
the exception of DTS audio demuxing/muxing.[/code]

O my god, you did it, I tried Kung Fu Panda (PiP title previously not playable with PowerDVD). What can I say, PowerDVD plays it. THX.

It is one of the titles with AC3+. I can watch the PiP track normally. However I do not hear the PiP audio, but thats not a big issue for me. Previously the complete movie did not play.

I just tested, I do not even hear the PiP audio on the original disc with PowerDVD.

best regards.

[leChameleon]

Not really. It should overwrite it or at least prompt to overwrite it. Does something else have the file open?

I'm confused. What happened to all the other M2TS files that were in your original post (the order is different now)?This is the directory listing of the files that reside on disk after the application was closed.

Version BD-RBV02802

J:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\WORKFILES>dir /b
00074.track_4113.264
00074.track_4352.dts
00074.track_4608.sup
00074.track_4609.sup
00074.track_4610.sup
00074.track_4611.sup
00074.track_4612.sup
00074.track_4614.sup

Perhaps since [x] Remove WORKFILES... was selected it deleted them afterward before I closed the application. Is this the expected behavior of the product? If so perhaps it may be a benefit to only Remove WORKFILES if successful.

[EDIT] I'm rerunning the full job yet again without Remove WORKFILES...

[Shuttle99]

Is there a thread on here for people that are using BD-RB that are having problems like the disc won't play and the player says incompatible disc, it only says this on full back, movie only works great. Thanks.

[tekmobile]

Is there a thread on here for people that are using BD-RB that are having problems like the disc won't play and the player says incompatible disc, it only says this on full back, movie only works great. Thanks.

What player is it

[Shuttle99]

It is a Panasonic BD55. They also won't play in the PS3 either.

[chudm]

Is there a thread on here for people that are using BD-RB that are having problems like the disc won't play and the player says incompatible disc, it only says this on full back, movie only works great. Thanks.

maybe you are doing full backup to bd5, or bd9, ps3 at least cant read those, only full backup to bd25

[deank]

No need to flood this thread with the topic.

Check these threads before you decide to post about compatibility:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339

[Shuttle99]

I did a full backup to BD9 to try it but I can see the player won't play it. Thanks for the replies and I will check out the links.

[leChameleon]

Valkyrie (2008), Region A: BD-RBV02802


http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9351/settingsc.jpg


BD-RBV02802: VALKYRIE.INF
----------------------------------------------

[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.28.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
COMPLETED=1
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=13775500522
RATE=10005
NSIZE=4591945728
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00172]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=493466521
RATE=6451



BD-RBV02802: BD-REBUILDER.LOG
----------------------------------------------
[14:02:53] BD Rebuilder v0.28.02 (beta)
- Source: VALKYRIE
- Input BD size: 39.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:24:24.653]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[14:02:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:02:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [14:08:22] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 10)
- [14:08:23] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 173,130 frames
- Bitrate: 10,005 Kbs
- [14:08:23] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:04:12] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:55:38] Video Encode complete
- [16:55:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:55:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:57:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00172]
- [16:57:43] Reencoding: VID_00172 (2 of 10)
- [16:57:43] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 16,429 frames
- Bitrate: 6,451 Kbs
- [16:57:43] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:57:47] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[16:57:49] - Failed video encode, aborted


BD-RBV02802: J:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02802\WORKFILES\
----------------------------------------------
00074.clpi
00074.m2ts
00074.track_4352.dts
00074.track_4608.sup
00074.track_4609.sup
00074.track_4610.sup
00074.track_4611.sup
00074.track_4612.sup
00074.track_4614.sup
00172.track_4352.ac3
AUD_00074.meta
AUD_00074_4352.AVS
AUD_00172.meta
AUD_00172_4352.AVS
MUX_00074.meta
VID_00074.AVS
VID_00074.AVS.MKV
VID_00074.AVS.MKV.stats
VID_00172.AVS
VID_00172.AVS.MKV
VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats
VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.mbtree


BD-RBV02802: LASTCMD.TXT
----------------------------------------------
"D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02802\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02802\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS" --preset slow --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --bitrate 6451 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02802\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02802\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV"


avis [info]: 1920x1080 @ 29.97 fps (16429 frames)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264 [error]: 2nd pass has more frames than 1st pass (16429 vs 77)
x264 [error]: x264_encoder_open failed


http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4373/cpuzo.jpg


Please let me know what additional information you'd like to see... All three software releases are referencing the same set of master data.

Thank you!

[jdobbs]

I just updated the first post of this thread to include links to an update version of BD-RB (v0.28.03). Changes:- Corrected an error introduced in v0.28.01 that
could result in an incorrect update to the MPLS
file or more likely "CorrectMPLS() 00063 2408".
- Added code to reduce the number of iterations
needed to reach CRF in the GetCRF() estimation
process. It was affected by the MBTREE algorithm.
- Updated the X264 executable to r1206.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[chudm]

I just updated the first post of this thread to include links to an update version of BD-RB (v0.28.03). Changes:- Corrected an error introduced in v0.28.01 that
could result in an incorrect update to the MPLS
file or more likely "CorrectMPLS() 00063 2408".
- Added code to reduce the number of iterations
needed to reach CRF in the GetCRF() estimation
process. It was affected by the MBTREE algorithm.
- Updated the X264 executable to r1206.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

thx again man! hahaha so many versions these days :eek: :goodpost:

[jdobbs]

thx again man! hahaha so many versions these days :eek: :goodpost: Whenever you have a version that has a lot of code (like v0.28.01) there's always a need to post a couple quick follow-ups to fix the things you didn't catch in testing. ;)

The next biggy will be support for DTS PiP audio. I'll probably have to write code for demuxing/remuxing it myself as TSMUXER looks like it's not going to see any updates for a while. I'm not really looking forward to it. :(

[chudm]

Whenever you have a version that has a lot of code (like v0.28.01) there's always a need to post a couple quick follow-ups to fix the things you didn't catch in testing. ;)

The next biggy will be support for DTS PiP audio. I'll probably have to write code for demuxing/remuxing it myself as TSMUXER looks like it's not going to see any updates for a while. I'm not really looking forward to it. :(

yeah! i dont want to be on your shoes man! :scared:

[chudm]

btw jdobbs do you have any hint about the problems some of us had with some musical blurays, like the elton john one or the foo fighters, where we cant see any letters or options on the menu, so we cant access to the content of the bluray?

[Jake802]

How exactly does the batching work? Am I going to need to setup 3 different working folders or what? Thanks!

[jdobbs]

How exactly does the batching work? Am I going to need to setup 3 different working folders or what? Thanks! It depends how trusting you are. You can use the same working forlder for all of them -- but if one of the screws up, you have to start over. You could also set up 3 working folders. The choice is yours.

[jdobbs]

btw jdobbs do you have any hint about the problems some of us had with some musical blurays, like the elton john one or the foo fighters, where we cant see any letters or options on the menu, so we cant access to the content of the bluray? Probably issues with LPCM -- but I haven't really looked at it. I don't own any music BDs. I'm concentrating on the more common movie formats first.

[chudm]

Probably issues with LPCM -- but I haven't really looked at it. I don't own any music BDs. I'm concentrating on the more common movie formats first.

its pretty weird, cause doesnt have any extras, the ones i got, but still menu doesnt works, and its pretty lame to just forward without menu! ahahaha well have to wait then, thx for the good work!

[jdobbs]

@leChameleon

I'm about halfway through the second pass of Valyrie Region A, VID_00172 (the one you posted about) and it is chugging away with no issues. My guess is that you've configured your codecs strangely or have something else set up wrong. I'm going to let it finish, then I'm going to set "Quicker Encode for Extras" and see how the sizing goes.

[Added]

Ok... I'm not sure what's going on, but back in your first post on Valyrie, this is the first part of what you posted:

[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.27.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00181]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=161535800
NSIZE=184645632
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00182]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=192287211
NSIZE=187392000
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


Here is my output for the same source:

[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42912135865
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.558226615040767
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=2
[00181]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=161534098
NSIZE=165783552
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00182]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=192285186
NSIZE=187871232
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Notice the difference in sizing (NSIZE) between yours and mine on 00181... what's up with that? The only difference is you computer and your settings -- and theres a 20MB difference in sizing?
Are you using all the version listed for download in the first post of this thread? Somethings up...

We'll see what happens overnight. I'll post the log in the morning when it completes.

[Sharc]

I refer to my earlier post here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1307824#post1307824
I did it again with v0.28.02, 1-pass, BD5, FORCE_ENCODING=1 because I was hoping it might fix the sync issue.
a) CRF sequence
- Analyzing 26.16 10.00 22.53 20.20 18.83 18.62 18.42 18.23 18.05 18.18 18.15 18.12 18.10 18.08 18.09 [18.09]
It is rather long -- but I just noticed that this has already been addressed with v0.28.3 by now.
b) Movie is oversized: 4.886 GB
c) Video/audio still out of sync.

I'll try again with v0.28.03 and report back.

[leChameleon]

Hi jdobbs,

The information for each configuration of BD-RB is default from each form setting. I'm not modifying or pre-setting anything thus the values for NSIZE are output directly from BD-RB.

Is your machine setup for 'hyper threading' or does it use multiple cores? Could it be that the code might be sensitive to the system environment outside of BD-RB's configuration that is causing this problem? If so can you please list BD-RB's external dependencies?

What I'm uncertain of is why are the *.INF files quite different between v*26 and v*28 ?

Thank you!

[EDIT] I'll be more than happy to setup a VNC session if you'd like so you can see for yourself.

[leChameleon]

I discovered there was some issue post v0.26.3 thus I started to test each video option against each audio option to help determine the root cause of the problem. This is why I was asking more specific questions earlier.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs, @leCameleon

Hi!

I don't know if the following is significant but, there are also differing values for "SOURCE_SIZE", as follows:

leChameleon: SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717

jdobbs: SOURCE_SIZE=42912135865

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,

The information for each configuration of BD-RB is default from each form setting. I'm not modifying or pre-setting anything thus the values for NSIZE are output directly from BD-RB.

Is your machine setup for 'hyper threading' or does it use multiple cores? Could it be that the code might be sensitive to the system environment outside of BD-RB's configuration that is causing this problem? If so can you please list BD-RB's external dependencies?

What I'm uncertain of is why are the *.INF files quite different between v*26 and v*28 ?

Thank you!

[EDIT] I'll be more than happy to setup a VNC session if you'd like so you can see for yourself. As I explained before, they are different because X264 changed. If you're talking about the order/sequencing of the input files, its because the order changes between normal and "quick encode" modes. If any code is sensitive to hyperthreading it would be X264 -- but I don't think so.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs, @leCameleon

Hi!

I don't know if the following is significant but, there are also differing values for "SOURCE_SIZE", as follows:

leChameleon: SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717

jdobbs: SOURCE_SIZE=42912135865 At first I thought that was due to a fix that was implemented related to angles, but I just remembered that was implemented in v0.27.01. It could be the he didn't copy the CERTIFICATE folder when ripping the original. The VIDEO_SIZE is the same, so they are the same source disc.

[Edit]
I never use the "Highest" setting, and I just was reminded why -- the encode of Valkyrie is only 38% complete after encoding all night. Ugghhh.

[Adbear]

As I explained before, they are different because X264 changed. If you're talking about the order/sequencing of the input files, its because the order changes between normal and "quick encode" modes. If any code is sensitive to hyperthreading it would be X264 -- but I don't think so.

If the code isn't sensitive to Hyper-threading then maybe it's sensitive to the number of cores as it always seems to fail on my Dual Xeon i7 when hyperthreading is on when encoding field based VC-1

[leChameleon]

How is NSIZE being calculated?

It appears that VALKYRIE.INF is generated by BD-RB prior to invoking x264, no? If this is true then isn't this guiding the setup initialization for x264 thus if the inputs are different then one would expect the outputs to be different as well.


[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.26.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=13775500522
RATE=10005
NSIZE=13321525248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
...

[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.27.01 (beta)...........................Note: The only difference here was
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717.................................[x] Quick Encode for Extras
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296.......................[x] Remove WORKFILES....
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=16838596203
RATE=13160
NSIZE=3913721856
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
...

[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.28.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
COMPLETED=1
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=13775500522..............<-- Sames as v0.26.03
RATE=10005
NSIZE=4591945728
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
...

Note:
v0.26.03 the job finished with expected output size.
v0.27.01 the job finished with significant reduction in output size.
v0.28.02 the job failed to complete.

[jdobbs]

No it isn't generated prior to X264, it is updated as the encodes progress. NSIZE isn't calculated. It is the size in bytes of the output file. It shows how close the encoder hit the target. If you are that far off, something is certainly wrong. The problem is that I have no reports of that level of undersizing from anyone but you. Can you post your BDREBUILDER.INI file for the v0.28.xx encodes?

M2TS_TARGET is the target size of the resulting M2TS. NSIZE is typically close to it, but it can deviate based upon the size of other parts of the M2TS (audio, subs, secondary video/audio).

[Edit]

I deleted my comments related to sizing here because I just realized this encode is using "Faster encode for extras" which is SUPPOSED to result in deviations from the target size (in order to keep a constant quality value). The differences are adjusted when the large (usually main-movie) sections are encoded.

[leChameleon]

I added the INF information for all three jobs (above) to make it easier to see the problem more clearly.

[leChameleon]

Is there any option to save a debug log to see exactly what all the commands are output to x264 from BD-RB?
If so this may help us run the same command string in various supporting x264 builds to see what's going on there.

[sype]

Trying to back up lakeview terrace, using the latest version, to bd25, and im getting this error.
BD rebuilder experienced an error 2202[18:39:38]RebuildBDFiles() 00052 2202.

[14:05:35] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 32.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:31:55.064]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[14:05:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:05:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00309]
- [14:05:42] Reencoding: VID_00309 (1 of 17)
- [14:05:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00704]
- [14:05:50] Reencoding: VID_00704 (2 of 17)
- [14:06:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00312]
- [14:06:10] Reencoding: VID_00312 (3 of 17)
- [14:06:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00315]
- [14:06:31] Reencoding: VID_00315 (4 of 17)
- [14:06:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00314]
- [14:06:52] Reencoding: VID_00314 (5 of 17)
- [14:07:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00310]
- [14:07:21] Reencoding: VID_00310 (6 of 17)
- [14:07:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00311]
- [14:07:52] Reencoding: VID_00311 (7 of 17)
- [14:08:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00317]
- [14:08:36] Reencoding: VID_00317 (8 of 17)
- [14:09:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [14:09:40] Reencoding: VID_00081 (9 of 17)
- [14:10:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00603]
- [14:10:31] Reencoding: VID_00603 (10 of 17)
- [14:11:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00313]
- [14:11:39] Reencoding: VID_00313 (11 of 17)
- [14:12:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00316]
- [14:12:58] Reencoding: VID_00316 (12 of 17)
- [14:14:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00602]
- [14:14:43] Reencoding: VID_00602 (13 of 17)
- [14:17:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00601]
- [14:18:01] Reencoding: VID_00601 (14 of 17)
- [14:19:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00600]
- [14:20:34] Reencoding: VID_00600 (15 of 17)
- [14:23:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00700]
- [14:28:24] Reencoding: VID_00700 (16 of 17)
- [14:58:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [15:54:03] Reencoding: VID_00011 (17 of 17)
[18:35:53]PHASE ONE complete
[18:35:54]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:35:54] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [18:35:54] RebuildBDFiles() 00052 2202
[18:36:48] - Aborted at user request

It seems to be stoping just before the Rebuild.

[Sharc]

I refer to my earlier post here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1307824#post1307824
I did it again with v0.28.02, 1-pass, BD5, FORCE_ENCODING=1 because I was hoping it might fix the sync issue.
a) CRF sequence
- Analyzing 26.16 10.00 22.53 20.20 18.83 18.62 18.42 18.23 18.05 18.18 18.15 18.12 18.10 18.08 18.09 [18.09]
It is rather long -- but I just noticed that this has already been addressed with v0.28.03 by now.
b) Movie is oversized: 4.886 GB
c) Video/audio still out of sync.

I'll try again with v0.28.03 and report back.

Here the results with v0.28.03, 1-pass, BD5 (movie only), FORCE_ENCODING=0
a) CRF sequence
- Analyzing 24.85 10.00 21.70 19.60 18.40 17.80 [17.85]
=> much better than before
b) Movie fills DVD-5 to 94% => no oversize although final CRF is even lower than with v0.28.02
c) Video/audio (448 ac3) still out of sync :(
(Audio and subs are in sync)

[sype]

Trying to back up lakeview terrace, using the latest version, to bd25, and im getting this error.
BD rebuilder experienced an error 2202[18:39:38]RebuildBDFiles() 00052 2202.



It seems to be stoping just before the Rebuild.

Started the job again using version 26.03 and the same settings. it asked if i wanted to resume the job, which i clicked yes. it then rebuild the files normally.
sorry if im not very good at explaining what im doing.

[samtroy]

Sorry for this slightly offtopic question:

Is ffdshow still nessessary in Windows 7?

I did *not* install it (just avisynth and haali) and BD Rebuilder did work without a problem.

The BD9 result was 600MB undersized though. Could the missing ffdshow be the reason for that? Would it be advisable to install ffdshow even in Win7?

Thanks in advance.
S.

[GaPony]

Started the job again using version 26.03 and the same settings. it asked if i wanted to resume the job, which i clicked yes. it then rebuild the files normally.
sorry if im not very good at explaining what im doing.

I'm not sure resuming a job started with a different version is very useful... maybe trying some different settings with the current version would be more productive, if you're trying to get a good copy of a problematic movie.

[leChameleon]

VALKYRIE v0.28.03 Highest encoder setting.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9351/settingsc.jpg


[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
COMPLETED=1
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=13775500522
RATE=10005
NSIZE=3915626496
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00172]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=493466521
RATE=6451


-----------------------
[09:41:56] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: VALKYRIE
- Input BD size: 39.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:24:24.653]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[09:41:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:41:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [09:50:26] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 10)
- [09:50:26] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 173,130 frames
- Bitrate: 10,005 Kbs
- [09:50:26] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:50:46] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:30:39] Video Encode complete
- [11:30:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:30:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:32:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00172]
- [11:32:38] Reencoding: VID_00172 (2 of 10)
- [11:32:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 16,429 frames
- Bitrate: 6,451 Kbs
- [11:32:38] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [11:32:56] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[11:32:58] - Failed video encode, aborted


"D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS" --preset slow --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --bitrate 6451 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV"

avis [info]: 1920x1080 @ 29.97 fps (16429 frames)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264 [error]: 2nd pass has more frames than 1st pass (16429 vs 64)
x264 [error]: x264_encoder_open failed


Directory of J:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803\WORKFILES
08/11/2009 11:32 AM <DIR> .
08/11/2009 11:32 AM <DIR> ..
08/11/2009 11:32 AM 40,208 00074.clpi
08/11/2009 11:32 AM 3,915,626,496 00074.m2ts
08/11/2009 09:50 AM 3,326,385,148 00074.track_4352.dts
08/11/2009 09:50 AM 29,028,564 00074.track_4608.sup
08/11/2009 09:50 AM 24,495,097 00074.track_4609.sup
08/11/2009 09:50 AM 27,215,553 00074.track_4610.sup
08/11/2009 09:50 AM 22,068,786 00074.track_4611.sup
08/11/2009 09:50 AM 14,099,704 00074.track_4612.sup
08/11/2009 09:50 AM 26,646,806 00074.track_4614.sup
08/11/2009 11:32 AM 15,349,376 00172.track_4352.ac3
08/11/2009 09:41 AM 897 AUD_00074.meta
08/11/2009 09:50 AM 262 AUD_00074_4352.AVS
08/11/2009 11:32 AM 266 AUD_00172.meta
08/11/2009 12:10 PM 262 AUD_00172_4352.AVS
08/11/2009 11:30 AM 946 MUX_00074.meta
08/11/2009 09:50 AM 184 VID_00074.AVS
08/11/2009 11:30 AM 21,625,441 VID_00074.AVS.MKV
08/11/2009 10:50 AM 14,011,638 VID_00074.AVS.MKV.stats
08/11/2009 12:10 PM 309 VID_00172.AVS
08/11/2009 12:11 PM 0 VID_00172.AVS.MKV
08/11/2009 11:32 AM 5,668 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats
08/11/2009 11:32 AM 375,383 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.mbtree

[sype]

I'm not sure resuming a job started with a different version is very useful... maybe trying some different settings with the current version would be more productive, if you're trying to get a good copy of a problematic movie.

Yes your probably correct but i thought the information may help jdobbs track down what caused the error. just trying to be a helpful newbie...:helpful:

[leChameleon]

... Can you post your BDREBUILDER.INI file for the v0.28.xx encodes?

Per your request. :)

D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02802\BD_Rebuilder\BDREBUILDER.INI
-------------------------------------------------------
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
TARGET_SIZE=23000
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=F:\TEMP - VALKYRIE (2008)\VALKYRIE\
WORKING_PATH=J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02802\


D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\BDREBUILDER.INI
-------------------------------------------------------
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=F:\TEMP - VALKYRIE (2008)\VALKYRIE\
WORKING_PATH=J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HQ\

Note: BD-RBV02803's INI may have changed as I'm running a test with "High Quality" now on VALKYRIE to see if this has the same problem, but I think that's the only chance as I'm trying to keep a controlled environment here for us. Hence the _HQ folder extension.

[leChameleon]

VALKYRIE v0.28.03 High Quality encoder setting.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9351/settingsc.jpg

D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\BDREBUILDER.INI
--------------------------------------------------------------------
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=F:\TEMP - VALKYRIE (2008)\VALKYRIE\
WORKING_PATH=J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HQ\


J:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HQ\VALKYRIE.INF
--------------------------------------------------------------------
[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
COMPLETED=1
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=13775500522
RATE=10005
NSIZE=5565782016
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00172]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=493466521
RATE=6451


J:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HQ\BD-REBUILDER.LOG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
[12:23:32] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: VALKYRIE
- Input BD size: 39.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:24:24.653]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[12:23:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:23:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [12:32:24] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 10)
- [12:32:24] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 173,130 frames
- Bitrate: 10,005 Kbs
- [12:32:24] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:32:21] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:01:28] Video Encode complete
- [15:01:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:01:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:03:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00172]
- [15:03:49] Reencoding: VID_00172 (2 of 10)
- [15:03:49] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 16,429 frames
- Bitrate: 6,451 Kbs
- [15:03:49] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:03:53] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[15:04:04] - Failed video encode, aborted



D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\LASTCMD.TXT
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HQ\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS" --preset medium --bitrate 6451 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HQ\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HQ\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV"

avis [info]: 1920x1080 @ 29.97 fps (16429 frames)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264 [error]: 2nd pass has more frames than 1st pass (16429 vs 64)
x264 [error]: x264_encoder_open failed


J:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HQ\WORKFILES
--------------------------------------------------------------------
08/11/2009 03:03 PM <DIR> .
08/11/2009 03:03 PM <DIR> ..
08/11/2009 03:03 PM 40,720 00074.clpi
08/11/2009 03:03 PM 5,565,782,016 00074.m2ts
08/11/2009 12:32 PM 3,326,385,148 00074.track_4352.dts
08/11/2009 12:32 PM 29,028,564 00074.track_4608.sup
08/11/2009 12:32 PM 24,495,097 00074.track_4609.sup
08/11/2009 12:32 PM 27,215,553 00074.track_4610.sup
08/11/2009 12:32 PM 22,068,786 00074.track_4611.sup
08/11/2009 12:32 PM 14,099,704 00074.track_4612.sup
08/11/2009 12:32 PM 26,646,806 00074.track_4614.sup
08/11/2009 03:03 PM 15,349,376 00172.track_4352.ac3
08/11/2009 12:23 PM 897 AUD_00074.meta
08/11/2009 12:32 PM 262 AUD_00074_4352.AVS
08/11/2009 03:03 PM 266 AUD_00172.meta
08/11/2009 03:03 PM 262 AUD_00172_4352.AVS
08/11/2009 03:01 PM 970 MUX_00074.meta
08/11/2009 12:32 PM 184 VID_00074.AVS
08/11/2009 03:01 PM 1,601,140,470 VID_00074.AVS.MKV
08/11/2009 01:32 PM 14,011,649 VID_00074.AVS.MKV.stats
08/11/2009 03:03 PM 309 VID_00172.AVS
08/11/2009 03:09 PM 0 VID_00172.AVS.MKV
08/11/2009 03:03 PM 5,669 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats
08/11/2009 03:03 PM 375,383 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.mbtree
22 File(s) 10,666,648,091 bytes

[jdobbs]

If the code isn't sensitive to Hyper-threading then maybe it's sensitive to the number of cores as it always seems to fail on my Dual Xeon i7 when hyperthreading is on when encoding field based VC-1 I'd report that to the X264 developers, as there's really nothing BD-RB can do about it.

[Dark Shikari]

All of the error reports here are completely useless because the merely say that the first pass failed, but they don't show any of the logs from said first pass.

[jdobbs]

Trying to back up lakeview terrace, using the latest version, to bd25, and im getting this error.
BD rebuilder experienced an error 2202[18:39:38]RebuildBDFiles() 00052 2202.



It seems to be stoping just before the Rebuild. Odd. That's two error reports I've gotten in that same area -- in a section of code that hasn't changed in several months. When Furiousflea reported something similar I went back and checked the code, It is byte-for-byte identical to v0.26.03, which you said you used to complete the rebuild.

:confused: Are you sure your source isn't corrupt or was dismounted during the rebuild?

One idea: what is the label name of the BD? It shows at the top of the STREAM tab.

[jdobbs]

All of the error reports here are completely useless because the merely say that the first pass failed, but they don't show any of the logs from said first pass.And, of course, there are also the other usual suspects like version of windows, AVISYNTH, CODEC (probable) and "tinkering".

[Furiousflea]

- [01:05:25] CorrectMPLS() 00006 2408

Error still occurs with latest version that was supposed to fix this. Title is "Pinnochio".

[jdobbs]

Error still occurs with latest version that was supposed to fix this. Title is "Pinnochio". Ughh. I thought that one was fixed. Did the other error go away?

[Furiousflea]

Ughh. I thought that one was fixed. Did the other error go away?

I think the other one has gone :)

[leChameleon]

Hi jdobbs,

Were you able to complete your run on VALKYRIE yet? If so can you comment on your results?

I'm testing a High-Speed encode job right now running v0.28.3. 70% finished now. Its working on VID_00177 now.

[Adbear]

I'd report that to the X264 developers, as there's really nothing BD-RB can do about it.
Even though it only has this issue on field based VC-1? Any other type of file works fine with the hyper threading on and it rockets through them using 100% of all 16 cores

[Jake802]

It depends how trusting you are. You can use the same working forlder for all of them -- but if one of the screws up, you have to start over. You could also set up 3 working folders. The choice is yours.

Lol! Ok well so far youve been pretty good at this maybe ill be risky and see what happens! Thanks! Ill make another donation soon! Im expecting a bonus check so Ill try to help out some more! Thanks for the continued efforts!

Jake

[leChameleon]

VALKYRIE BD-RBV02803 with High-Speed encoding option.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9351/settingsc.jpg


D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\BDREBUILDER.INI
-------------------------------------------------------------------
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=F:\TEMP - VALKYRIE (2008)\VALKYRIE\
WORKING_PATH=J:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HS\


J:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HS\VALKYRIE.INF
-------------------------------------------------------------------
[Status]
LABEL=VALKYRIE
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42911885717
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42544183296
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.55823249476346
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00074]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111010
M2TS_TARGET=13775500522
RATE=10005
NSIZE=13338132480
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00172]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=493466521
RATE=6451
NSIZE=479612928
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00175]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=407406470
RATE=6451
NSIZE=397344768
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00176]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=860912620
RATE=6451
NSIZE=837378048
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00177]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=370272238
RATE=6449
NSIZE=359835648
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00178]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=379302850
RATE=6450
NSIZE=364498944
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00181]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=161535800
RATE=9577
NSIZE=156248064
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00182]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=192287211
RATE=9624
NSIZE=186464256
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00183]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=914677858
RATE=2667
NSIZE=903358464
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00184]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6194183489
RATE=6476
NSIZE=6020923392
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


J:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HS\BD-REBUILDER.LOG
-------------------------------------------------------------------
[15:15:06] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: VALKYRIE
- Input BD size: 39.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:24:24.653]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[15:15:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:15:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [15:24:11] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 10)
- [15:24:12] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 173,130 frames
- Bitrate: 10,005 Kbs
- [15:24:12] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:24:13] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:05:10] Video Encode complete
- [18:05:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:05:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:15:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00172]
- [18:15:41] Reencoding: VID_00172 (2 of 10)
- [18:15:41] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 16,429 frames
- Bitrate: 6,451 Kbs
- [18:15:47] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:15:48] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:35:03] Video Encode complete
- [18:35:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:35:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:35:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00175]
- [18:35:43] Reencoding: VID_00175 (3 of 10)
- [18:35:43] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 13,565 frames
- Bitrate: 6,451 Kbs
- [18:35:44] Reencoding: VID_00175, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:35:44] Reencoding: VID_00175, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:51:32] Video Encode complete
- [18:51:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:51:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:51:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00176]
- [18:52:22] Reencoding: VID_00176 (4 of 10)
- [18:52:22] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 28,663 frames
- Bitrate: 6,451 Kbs
- [18:52:22] Reencoding: VID_00176, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:52:23] Reencoding: VID_00176, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:24:18] Video Encode complete
- [19:24:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:24:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:24:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00177]
- [19:24:55] Reencoding: VID_00177 (5 of 10)
- [19:24:55] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 12,332 frames
- Bitrate: 6,449 Kbs
- [19:24:55] Reencoding: VID_00177, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:24:55] Reencoding: VID_00177, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:37:27] Video Encode complete
- [19:37:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:37:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:37:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00178]
- [19:38:03] Reencoding: VID_00178 (6 of 10)
- [19:38:03] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 12,631 frames
- Bitrate: 6,450 Kbs
- [19:38:03] Reencoding: VID_00178, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:38:04] Reencoding: VID_00178, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:50:29] Video Encode complete
- [19:50:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:50:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:50:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00181]
- [19:50:49] Reencoding: VID_00181 (7 of 10)
- [19:50:50] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,862 frames
- Bitrate: 9,577 Kbs
- [19:50:51] Reencoding: VID_00181, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:50:52] Reencoding: VID_00181, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:53:21] Video Encode complete
- [19:53:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:53:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:53:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00182]
- [19:53:32] Reencoding: VID_00182 (8 of 10)
- [19:53:32] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,391 frames
- Bitrate: 9,624 Kbs
- [19:53:32] Reencoding: VID_00182, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:53:32] Reencoding: VID_00182, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:55:55] Video Encode complete
- [19:55:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:55:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:56:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00183]
- [19:56:33] Reencoding: VID_00183 (9 of 10)
- [19:56:33] Collecting video information
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps, 70,040 frames
- Bitrate: 2,667 Kbs
- [19:56:33] Reencoding: VID_00183, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:56:33] Reencoding: VID_00183, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:10:40] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:10:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:11:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00184]
- [21:15:04] Reencoding: VID_00184 (10 of 10)
- [21:15:04] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 164,374 frames
- Bitrate: 6,476 Kbs
- [21:15:04] Reencoding: VID_00184, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:15:05] Reencoding: VID_00184, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:02:10] Video Encode complete
- [22:02:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:02:10] Multiplexing M2TS
[22:04:06]PHASE ONE complete
[22:04:06]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:04:06] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[22:04:20] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:04:20]JOB: VALKYRIE finished.


J:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_HS\VALKYRIE\BDMV\STREAM
-------------------------------------------------------------------
08/11/2009 10:04 PM <DIR> .
08/11/2009 10:04 PM <DIR> ..
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 313,344 00001.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 16,508,928 00014.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 41,048,064 00015.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 430,080 00038.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 66,035,712 00045.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 792,576 00070.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 528,384 00072.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 546,816 00073.m2ts
08/11/2009 06:15 PM 13,338,132,480 00074.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 1,314,816 00115.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 1,302,528 00116.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 313,344 00134.m2ts
08/11/2009 06:35 PM 479,612,928 00172.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 78,145,536 00173.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 78,133,248 00174.m2ts
08/11/2009 06:51 PM 397,344,768 00175.m2ts
08/11/2009 07:24 PM 837,378,048 00176.m2ts
08/11/2009 07:37 PM 359,835,648 00177.m2ts
08/11/2009 07:50 PM 364,498,944 00178.m2ts
08/11/2009 07:53 PM 156,248,064 00181.m2ts
08/11/2009 07:56 PM 186,464,256 00182.m2ts
08/11/2009 09:11 PM 903,358,464 00183.m2ts
08/11/2009 10:04 PM 6,020,923,392 00184.m2ts
23 File(s) 23,329,210,368 bytes


Do you have any idea why the High-Speed encode option finishes successfully yet the High Quality and Highest encode options do not? This seems to prove the data set can be processed buy BD-RB v0.28.3. I'm unable to tell how x264 is being called to know if one encode option might invoke other environment dependencies such as hyper-threading, etc... to know what the root cause of the failures are.

I inquired before, is there some way to capture more of a verbose log file or a complete transaction list of what's submitted to x264 at each step so we can attempt to debug that?

Let me know if I can provide you any additional information I my have omitted.

[happycase]

Was Trellis replaced with Macroblack tree?

[Adbear]

And, of course, there are also the other usual suspects like version of windows, AVISYNTH, CODEC (probable) and "tinkering".
I'm using a completely clean install of Vista 64 with the versions of everything that you link to at the beginning of this thread, nothing else installed except chipset, soundcard and graphics drivers. I did this because I thought maybe it was something to do with my install so I made a fresh clean install on a new hard drive.
Where do I find the log that Dark Shakiri is requesting?

[By-Tor]

Thanx to the help of D.K
we have managed to solve the problems with POTC1 + POTC2.
so thanx again for the help

[DK]

Thanx to the help of D.K
we have managed to solve the problems with POTC1 + POTC2.
so thanx again for the help

you're more than welcome but maybe you could point other readers to what the solution was :)

[Furiousflea]

@leChameleon

You really don't need to post all that info. Just stick to to posting the log\details that pertain to your problem, it also has the effect of me not being able to quote you to answer your question as I'm too lazy to bother deleting half of what you have copy\pasted.

Personally I think your having problems with the high quality settings because your CPU or memory is crapping out on you after a certain amount of time. Also note that on the high speed setting your CPU might not be maxed out constantly, as in it might fluctuate it's load down to 95~ percent more often - this will have a massive effect on stability.

Can't think of any other reason for your finding except for something like that. (inadequate cooling)

[jdobbs]

I think the other one has gone :)Of course -- that's the one I couldn't find. :) Hmm... maybe I shouldn't have fixed the second one -- then it would have went away too!

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,

Were you able to complete your run on VALKYRIE yet? If so can you comment on your results?

I'm testing a High-Speed encode job right now running v0.28.3. 70% finished now. Its working on VID_00177 now. Yes. It ended up at 22GB.

Target size: 24,117,248,000
Actual size: 23,695,384,576

So it hit 98.2% of the target size.

[Furiousflea]

you're more than welcome but maybe you could point other readers to what the solution was :)

Too right!!! (not for me but for the principle!)

[jdobbs]

Was Trellis replaced with Macroblack tree? No. But I removed Trellis as an option in the SETUP dialog because it is automatically enabled/disabled based up the level of quality you select. (it's part of the PRESET).

[jdobbs]

I'm using a completely clean install of Vista 64 with the versions of everything that you link to at the beginning of this thread, nothing else installed except chipset, soundcard and graphics drivers. I did this because I thought maybe it was something to do with my install so I made a fresh clean install on a new hard drive.
Where do I find the log that Dark Shakiri is requesting? Actually if it is only happening with VC-1, it's unlikely it has anything to do with X264 -- it's more likely the CODEC you are using. What setting do you have for VC-1 in the FFDSHOW setup?

[jdobbs]

Sorry for this slightly offtopic question:

Is ffdshow still nessessary in Windows 7?

I did *not* install it (just avisynth and haali) and BD Rebuilder did work without a problem.

The BD9 result was 600MB undersized though. Could the missing ffdshow be the reason for that? Would it be advisable to install ffdshow even in Win7?

Thanks in advance.
S. I really don't know, as I'm not using Windows 7. It's possible that it includes all the codecs you need. Vista and XP certainly don't. That level of undersizing is at about 7%, which is more than a typical delta for two pass. What mode did you use to encode? If it was one-pass CRF, that's probably about about right.

[Adbear]

Actually if it is only happening with VC-1, it's unlikely it has anything to do with X264 -- it's more likely the CODEC you are using. What setting do you have for VC-1 in the FFDSHOW setup?

I've had it set to disabled, libavcodec and wmv9, does the same with all 3, but only with settings that do a first pass, if I set it to the fast BD-25 option it has no problem as it skips the first pass

[sype]

Odd. That's two error reports I've gotten in that same area -- in a section of code that hasn't changed in several months. When Furiousflea reported something similar I went back and checked the code, It is byte-for-byte identical to v0.26.03, which you said you used to complete the rebuild.

:confused: Are you sure your source isn't corrupt or was dismounted during the rebuild?

One idea: what is the label name of the BD? It shows at the top of the STREAM tab.

Im not quite sure what your getting at. but im running it again on my other pc to see what happens.
The label name is VOLUME_ID but the film is Lakeview terrace. region b.

[leChameleon]

Yes. It ended up at 22GB.

Target size: 24,117,248,000
Actual size: 23,695,384,576

So it hit 98.2% of the target size.Thanks for letting me know. What I fail to understand is that 8 earlier builds including v0.26.3 work perfectly yet only v0.27.1 and later fail on certain DVD's.

I'm highly confident it is not hardware issues as this machine is stored in a temperature controlled server room and is used for far more CPU intensive jobs than this. Moreover at the times certain jobs failed they were the only one running at that time. I've had as many as 3 BD-RB jobs running plus running other very intensive jobs in the background and all jobs completed successful.

What I suspect is that there may be certain cases where switching to the new x264 release may still have some issues.

I can't presume that I'm the only one having this issue when others have PM'd me to let me know they have run into similar issues.

Please let me know if you're finished looking into this matter as it worked for you, thus you're unable to reproduce it. Otherwise please let me know how you'd like to proceed and if I can be of any help.

[leChameleon]

[Status]
LABEL=TAKEN
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=41190650834
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=40713363456
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.580643764486526
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=30
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00074]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=2493073026
RATE=17941
NSIZE=477032448
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00133]
AUDIO=0
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=742295286
RATE=4989
NSIZE=728850432
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00183]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=57864449
RATE=7888
NSIZE=123856896
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00184]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=65748570
RATE=8306
NSIZE=129398784
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00185]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=1440239719
RATE=17636
NSIZE=1050193920
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00186]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=172808503
RATE=10631
NSIZE=198119424
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00187]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=196385947
RATE=9453
NSIZE=231843840
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00188]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=3944514617
RATE=18070
NSIZE=2119299072
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00189]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=273033154
RATE=14556
NSIZE=288270336
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00190]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=333162950
RATE=15134
NSIZE=331290624
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00191]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=2360298731
RATE=17767
NSIZE=1466204160
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00192]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=739255797
RATE=16870
NSIZE=499316736
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00193]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=891533480
RATE=17129
NSIZE=623695872
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00194]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=984184380
RATE=17525
NSIZE=742711296
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00195]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=2034370621
RATE=17323
NSIZE=1260730368
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00196]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=2228266470
RATE=17485
NSIZE=1356564480
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00197]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=1307436884
RATE=15102
NSIZE=774561792
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00199]
AUDIO=0
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=793991570
RATE=20423
NSIZE=188307456
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00200]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=139470446
RATE=20691
NSIZE=115685376
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00201]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=533376798
RATE=21067
NSIZE=308004864
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00202]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=145606504
RATE=20746
NSIZE=110020608
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00203]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=367542709
RATE=21175
NSIZE=231340032
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00204]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=283849739
RATE=20952
NSIZE=192000000
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00205]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=417276882
RATE=21187
NSIZE=270059520
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00207]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=98412373
RATE=10002
NSIZE=116219904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00208]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=97374238
RATE=9985
NSIZE=121288704
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00209]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=203178420
RATE=10057
NSIZE=195459072
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00210]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=205122694
RATE=10640
NSIZE=202475520
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00211]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=88947861
RATE=10089
NSIZE=102666240
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00213]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1337803
RATE=1424
NSIZE=841728
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

Thanks for letting me know. What I fail to understand is that 8 earlier builds including v0.26.3 work perfectly yet only v0.27.1 and later fail on certain DVD's.

I'm highly confident it is not hardware issues as this machine is stored in a temperature controlled server room and is used for far more CPU intensive jobs than this. Moreover at the times certain jobs failed they were the only one running at that time. I've had as many as 3 BD-RB jobs running plus running other very intensive jobs in the background and all jobs completed successful.

What I suspect is that there may be certain cases where switching to the new x264 release may still have some issues.

I can't presume that I'm the only one having this issue when others have PM'd me to let me know they have run into similar issues.

Please let me know if you're finished looking into this matter as it worked for you, thus you're unable to reproduce it. Otherwise please let me know how you'd like to proceed and if I can be of any help.PMs don't help anybody. If they have an issue they need to post it. I can't fix things reported in someone elses's PM.

The bottom line is that I did the exact same disc with the exact same settings and it sized correctly. What else can I say? The only difference left is your configuration and system. And secret PMs aside, I'm not getting any other reports of massive undersizing on two pass encodes.

I really don't need any more input from your side. I have plenty. I'm going to go through what I have and see if there are any exceptions or circumstances that could make it do something weird.

[Edit] One thing I'd like to know. When if finishes the last M2TS (the one with the huge undersize), what bitrate is listed in LASTCMD.TXT? My encode shows 8853 for 00074.

[leChameleon]

-----------------------
[01:50:56] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: TAKEN
- Input BD size: 38.36 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:35:32.447]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[01:50:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:50:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [01:51:49] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 30)
- [01:51:49] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 19,972 frames
- Bitrate: 17,941 Kbs
- [01:51:49] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:58:41] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:00:57] Video Encode complete
- [02:00:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:00:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:01:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00133]
- [02:01:23] Reencoding: VID_00133 (2 of 30)
- [02:01:23] Collecting video information
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps, 33,090 frames
- Bitrate: 4,989 Kbs
- [02:01:23] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:04:54] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:16:10] Video Encode complete
- [02:16:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:16:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:16:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00183]
- [02:16:19] Reencoding: VID_00183 (3 of 30)
- [02:16:19] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 867 frames
- Bitrate: 7,888 Kbs
- [02:16:19] Reencoding: VID_00183, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:16:41] Reencoding: VID_00183, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:18:04] Video Encode complete
- [02:18:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:18:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:18:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00184]
- [02:18:08] Reencoding: VID_00184 (4 of 30)
- [02:18:08] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 939 frames
- Bitrate: 8,306 Kbs
- [02:18:08] Reencoding: VID_00184, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:18:31] Reencoding: VID_00184, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:19:59] Video Encode complete
- [02:19:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:19:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:20:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00185]
- [02:20:33] Reencoding: VID_00185 (5 of 30)
- [02:20:33] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 11,691 frames
- Bitrate: 17,636 Kbs
- [02:20:33] Reencoding: VID_00185, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:24:35] Reencoding: VID_00185, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:40:36] Video Encode complete
- [02:40:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:40:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:40:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00186]
- [02:40:55] Reencoding: VID_00186 (6 of 30)
- [02:40:55] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,132 frames
- Bitrate: 10,631 Kbs
- [02:40:55] Reencoding: VID_00186, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:41:43] Reencoding: VID_00186, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:44:40] Video Encode complete
- [02:44:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:44:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:44:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00187]
- [02:44:48] Reencoding: VID_00187 (7 of 30)
- [02:44:48] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,618 frames
- Bitrate: 9,453 Kbs
- [02:44:48] Reencoding: VID_00187, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:45:45] Reencoding: VID_00187, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:49:10] Video Encode complete
- [02:49:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:49:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:49:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00188]
- [02:50:38] Reencoding: VID_00188 (8 of 30)
- [02:50:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 31,494 frames
- Bitrate: 18,070 Kbs
- [02:50:38] Reencoding: VID_00188, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:01:25] Reencoding: VID_00188, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:38:41] Video Encode complete
- [03:38:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:38:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:39:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00189]
- [03:39:31] Reencoding: VID_00189 (9 of 30)
- [03:39:31] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,548 frames
- Bitrate: 14,556 Kbs
- [03:39:31] Reencoding: VID_00189, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:40:27] Reencoding: VID_00189, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:44:20] Video Encode complete
- [03:44:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:44:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:44:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00190]
- [03:44:33] Reencoding: VID_00190 (10 of 30)
- [03:44:33] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,011 frames
- Bitrate: 15,134 Kbs
- [03:44:33] Reencoding: VID_00190, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:45:39] Reencoding: VID_00190, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:50:10] Video Encode complete
- [03:50:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:50:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:50:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00191]
- [03:51:06] Reencoding: VID_00191 (11 of 30)
- [03:51:06] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 19,091 frames
- Bitrate: 17,767 Kbs
- [03:51:06] Reencoding: VID_00191, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:57:39] Reencoding: VID_00191, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:22:20] Video Encode complete
- [04:22:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:22:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:22:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00192]
- [04:22:57] Reencoding: VID_00192 (12 of 30)
- [04:22:57] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 6,312 frames
- Bitrate: 16,870 Kbs
- [04:22:57] Reencoding: VID_00192, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:25:10] Reencoding: VID_00192, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:33:38] Video Encode complete
- [04:33:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:33:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:33:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00193]
- [04:34:05] Reencoding: VID_00193 (13 of 30)
- [04:34:05] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 7,490 frames
- Bitrate: 17,129 Kbs
- [04:34:05] Reencoding: VID_00193, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:36:43] Reencoding: VID_00193, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:46:12] Video Encode complete
- [04:46:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:46:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:46:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00194]
- [04:46:47] Reencoding: VID_00194 (14 of 30)
- [04:46:47] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 8,164 frames
- Bitrate: 17,525 Kbs
- [04:46:47] Reencoding: VID_00194, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:49:38] Reencoding: VID_00194, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:00:33] Video Encode complete
- [05:00:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:00:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:00:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00195]
- [05:01:32] Reencoding: VID_00195 (15 of 30)
- [05:01:32] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 16,574 frames
- Bitrate: 17,323 Kbs
- [05:01:32] Reencoding: VID_00195, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:07:11] Reencoding: VID_00195, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:29:46] Video Encode complete
- [05:29:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:29:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:30:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00196]
- [05:30:57] Reencoding: VID_00196 (16 of 30)
- [05:30:57] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 17,973 frames
- Bitrate: 17,485 Kbs
- [05:30:57] Reencoding: VID_00196, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [05:43:11] Reencoding: VID_00196, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:08:04] Video Encode complete
- [06:08:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:08:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:08:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00197]
- [06:08:57] Reencoding: VID_00197 (17 of 30)
- [06:08:57] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 11,949 frames
- Bitrate: 15,102 Kbs
- [06:08:57] Reencoding: VID_00197, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:13:05] Reencoding: VID_00197, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:22:13] Video Encode complete
- [06:22:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:22:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:22:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00199]
- [06:22:45] Reencoding: VID_00199 (18 of 30)
- [06:22:45] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 6,918 frames
- Bitrate: 20,423 Kbs
- [06:22:45] Reencoding: VID_00199, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:25:09] Reencoding: VID_00199, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:31:27] Video Encode complete
- [06:31:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:31:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:31:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00200]
- [06:31:33] Reencoding: VID_00200 (19 of 30)
- [06:31:33] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,188 frames
- Bitrate: 20,691 Kbs
- [06:31:33] Reencoding: VID_00200, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:32:02] Reencoding: VID_00200, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:33:54] Video Encode complete
- [06:33:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:33:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:33:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00201]
- [06:34:09] Reencoding: VID_00201 (20 of 30)
- [06:34:09] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 4,463 frames
- Bitrate: 21,067 Kbs
- [06:34:09] Reencoding: VID_00201, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:35:44] Reencoding: VID_00201, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:40:54] Video Encode complete
- [06:40:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:40:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:40:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00202]
- [06:41:01] Reencoding: VID_00202 (21 of 30)
- [06:41:01] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,237 frames
- Bitrate: 20,746 Kbs
- [06:41:01] Reencoding: VID_00202, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:41:30] Reencoding: VID_00202, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:43:00] Video Encode complete
- [06:43:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:43:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:43:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00203]
- [06:43:11] Reencoding: VID_00203 (22 of 30)
- [06:43:11] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,060 frames
- Bitrate: 21,175 Kbs
- [06:43:11] Reencoding: VID_00203, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:44:17] Reencoding: VID_00203, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:47:45] Video Encode complete
- [06:47:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:47:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:47:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00204]
- [06:47:55] Reencoding: VID_00204 (23 of 30)
- [06:47:55] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,388 frames
- Bitrate: 20,952 Kbs
- [06:47:55] Reencoding: VID_00204, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [06:50:30] Reencoding: VID_00204, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:53:26] Video Encode complete
- [06:53:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:53:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:53:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [06:53:39] Reencoding: VID_00205 (24 of 30)
- [06:53:39] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,472 frames
- Bitrate: 21,187 Kbs
- [06:53:39] Reencoding: VID_00205, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:54:53] Reencoding: VID_00205, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:59:32] Video Encode complete
- [06:59:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:59:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:59:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00207]
- [06:59:38] Reencoding: VID_00207 (25 of 30)
- [06:59:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,673 frames
- Bitrate: 10,002 Kbs
- [06:59:38] Reencoding: VID_00207, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [07:00:52] Reencoding: VID_00207, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:03:04] Video Encode complete
- [07:03:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:03:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:03:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00208]
- [07:03:09] Reencoding: VID_00208 (26 of 30)
- [07:03:09] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,658 frames
- Bitrate: 9,985 Kbs
- [07:03:09] Reencoding: VID_00208, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [07:04:23] Reencoding: VID_00208, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:06:26] Video Encode complete
- [07:06:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:06:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:06:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00209]
- [07:06:34] Reencoding: VID_00209 (27 of 30)
- [07:06:34] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,436 frames
- Bitrate: 10,057 Kbs
- [07:06:34] Reencoding: VID_00209, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:07:47] Reencoding: VID_00209, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:11:53] Video Encode complete
- [07:11:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:11:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:11:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00210]
- [07:12:01] Reencoding: VID_00210 (28 of 30)
- [07:12:01] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,287 frames
- Bitrate: 10,640 Kbs
- [07:12:01] Reencoding: VID_00210, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:13:12] Reencoding: VID_00210, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:17:18] Video Encode complete
- [07:17:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:17:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:17:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00211]
- [07:17:23] Reencoding: VID_00211 (29 of 30)
- [07:17:23] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,535 frames
- Bitrate: 10,089 Kbs
- [07:17:23] Reencoding: VID_00211, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:17:58] Reencoding: VID_00211, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:19:52] Video Encode complete
- [07:19:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:19:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:19:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00213]
- [07:19:54] Reencoding: VID_00213 (30 of 30)
- [07:19:54] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 143 frames
- Bitrate: 1,424 Kbs
- [07:19:54] Reencoding: VID_00213, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:20:00] Reencoding: VID_00213, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:20:03] Video Encode complete
- [07:20:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:20:03] Multiplexing M2TS
[07:20:03]PHASE ONE complete
[07:20:03]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:20:03] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[07:20:11] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[07:20:11]JOB: TAKEN finished.


Directory of J:\Bd25 4\Taken (2008)\TAKEN\BDMV\STREAM
08/12/2009 07:20 AM <DIR> .
08/12/2009 07:20 AM <DIR> ..
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 350,208 00001.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 16,508,928 00014.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 41,048,064 00015.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 430,080 00038.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 66,035,712 00045.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 145,889,280 00059.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 792,576 00070.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 528,384 00072.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 534,528 00073.m2ts
08/12/2009 02:01 AM 477,032,448 00074.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 847,872 00115.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 847,872 00116.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 118,861,824 00132.m2ts
08/12/2009 02:16 AM 728,850,432 00133.m2ts
08/12/2009 02:18 AM 123,856,896 00183.m2ts
08/12/2009 02:20 AM 129,398,784 00184.m2ts
08/12/2009 02:40 AM 1,050,193,920 00185.m2ts
08/12/2009 02:44 AM 198,119,424 00186.m2ts
08/12/2009 02:49 AM 231,843,840 00187.m2ts
08/12/2009 03:39 AM 2,119,299,072 00188.m2ts
08/12/2009 03:44 AM 288,270,336 00189.m2ts
08/12/2009 03:50 AM 331,290,624 00190.m2ts
08/12/2009 04:22 AM 1,466,204,160 00191.m2ts
08/12/2009 04:33 AM 499,316,736 00192.m2ts
08/12/2009 04:46 AM 623,695,872 00193.m2ts
08/12/2009 05:00 AM 742,711,296 00194.m2ts
08/12/2009 05:30 AM 1,260,730,368 00195.m2ts
08/12/2009 06:08 AM 1,356,564,480 00196.m2ts
08/12/2009 06:22 AM 774,561,792 00197.m2ts
08/12/2009 06:31 AM 188,307,456 00199.m2ts
08/12/2009 06:33 AM 115,685,376 00200.m2ts
08/12/2009 06:40 AM 308,004,864 00201.m2ts
08/12/2009 06:43 AM 110,020,608 00202.m2ts
08/12/2009 06:47 AM 231,340,032 00203.m2ts
08/12/2009 06:53 AM 192,000,000 00204.m2ts
08/12/2009 06:59 AM 270,059,520 00205.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 2,304,000 00206.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:03 AM 116,219,904 00207.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:06 AM 121,288,704 00208.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:11 AM 195,459,072 00209.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:17 AM 202,475,520 00210.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:19 AM 102,666,240 00211.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 595,968 00212.m2ts
08/12/2009 07:20 AM 841,728 00213.m2ts
44 File(s) 14,951,884,800 bytes

44 File(s) 14,951,884,800 bytes which don't match the target sizes. Why?

[leChameleon]

PMs don't help anybody. If they have an issue they need to post it. I can't fix things reported in someone elses's PM. Perhaps they have.

[leChameleon]

To reiterate.... What I fail to understand is that 8 earlier builds including v0.26.3 work perfectly yet only v0.27.1 and later fail on certain DVD's. Do you have any idea's or explanation for this?

[jdobbs]

To reiterate.... What I fail to understand is that 8 earlier builds including v0.26.3 work perfectly yet only v0.27.1 and later fail on certain DVD's. Do you have any idea's or explanation for this? No. Because I get approximately the same either way.

Arguing doesn't help. I said I'd still look at it, but I can only do what I can do. Maybe you can point me the post where someone else reported an undersize that of 50% on a two pass encode?

[leChameleon]

No. Because I get approximately the same either way.

Arguing doesn't help. I said I'd still look at it, but I can only do what I can do.I'm not arguing with you hope you don't feel that way. I'm trying to figure out if you want me to continue testing your code to help you. I've not been demanding or insinuated any sense of urgency to have anything done. What I have been doing is trying to provide you with clear detailed information to see if this helps you. I also understand that it may be difficult to debug or diagnose this sort of problem as I come from a software development background so I can sympathize with you and praise you for what your doing as well as your motivation.

[leChameleon]

Maybe you can point me the post where someone else reported an undersize that of 50% on a two pass encode?I'm unclear how you came to this conclusion from my original comment. There is nothing in the statement you quoted that says anything about "undersize that of 50% on a two pass encode".

[leChameleon]

For what its worth the max CPU temperature over that last 24 hours (since that's all we log) was 27C.

[leChameleon]

I really don't need any more input from your side. I have plenty. I'm going to go through what I have and see if there are any exceptions or circumstances that could make it do something weird.

[Edit] One thing I'd like to know. When if finishes the last M2TS (the one with the huge undersize), what bitrate is listed in LASTCMD.TXT? My encode shows 8853 for 00074.As there were complaints that I was posting too much information I only posted the LOG and INF. Unfortunately I've started another job to test something thus the LASTCMD.TXT has been overwritten. Is there a way in the future to store this with the WORKFILES? I'll be glad to restart the job again to see if I can get this information for you, assuming the results yield the same result. I'll let you know.

Thank you for your time and patients. :)

[jdobbs]

I'm unclear how you came to this conclusion from my original comment. There is nothing in the statement you quoted that says anything about "undersize that of 50% on a two pass encode". The main movie (00074) was undersized by much more than 50%.

[jdobbs]

As there were complaints that I was posting too much information I only posted the LOG and INF. Unfortunately I've started another job to test something thus the LASTCMD.TXT has been overwritten. Is there a way in the future to store this with the WORKFILES? I'll be glad to restart the job again to see if I can get this information for you, assuming the results yield the same result. I'll let you know.

Thank you for your time and patients. :) I hate to put you through that. As I found from my attempt to repeat the error, the "Highest" mode takes a LOT of time.

[sype]

You can ignore my error message that i posted earlier.
Its rebuilding correctly now, must have been a one off error.
I will not post an error message again unless i get the same error a few times.

[daberti]

@jdobbs
Are SAMPLE_GROUP=4800 and SAMPLE_SIZE=96 still the defaults for 0.28.x as under the dominion of 0.27.x or something has changed? Thanks

[By-Tor]

you're more than welcome but maybe you could point other readers to what the solution was :)

yeah ..o.k
was unable to rebuild potc1 + potc2 using anydvd 6.5.7.1 HD
but managed to solve the problem under advice from DK
to use fab hd decrypter instead which worked just fine
if more info needed check my earlier posts which have more indepth info.:thanks:

[pbeumer2001]

I sit possible that the new version is slower than the previous one? I use the default quality settings every time. Good enough for me. But I`ve lost about 5 frames per second on the first pass with the new version. Any idea?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Are SAMPLE_GROUP=4800 and SAMPLE_SIZE=96 still the defaults for 0.28.x as under the dominion of 0.27.x or something has changed? ThanksDefaults are:

NTSC @ 23.976
SAMPLE_GROUP=4800
SAMPLE_SIZE = "48"

NTSC @ 29.97
SAMPLE_GROUP=6000
SAMPLE_SIZE=60

PAL @ 25
SAMPLE_GROUP=5000
SAMPLE_SIZE=50

[jdobbs]

I sit possible that the new version is slower than the previous one? I use the default quality settings every time. Good enough for me. But I`ve lost about 5 frames per second on the first pass with the new version. Any idea? Actually the first pass should be faster starting with v0.27.1 -- in any later versions the settings haven't changed in any way that would affect speed other than a very, very slight effect of MBTREE.

[Capsbackup]

PMs don't help anybody. If they have an issue they need to post it. I can't fix things reported in someone elses's PM.

The bottom line is that I did the exact same disc with the exact same settings and it sized correctly. What else can I say? The only difference left is your configuration and system. And secret PMs aside, I'm not getting any other reports of massive undersizing on two pass encodes.

I really don't need any more input from your side. I have plenty. I'm going to go through what I have and see if there are any exceptions or circumstances that could make it do something weird.

[Edit] One thing I'd like to know. When if finishes the last M2TS (the one with the huge undersize), what bitrate is listed in LASTCMD.TXT? My encode shows 8853 for 00074.

If I'm reading the very next post correctly, #4565, IeChameleon's log says for 00074.mt2s is:
[01:50:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:50:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [01:51:49] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 30)
- [01:51:49] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 19,972 frames
- Bitrate: 17,941 Kbs
- [01:51:49] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:58:41] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:00:57] Video Encode complete
- [02:00:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:00:57] Multiplexing M2TS
This would appear to be more than double the 8853 for 00074 per jdobbs.
But this probably will not help anyway, because sometimes things just don't compute. :rolleyes:

[pbeumer2001]

Actually the first pass should be faster starting with v0.27.1 -- in any later versions the settings haven't changed in any way that would affect speed other than a very, very slight effect of MBTREE.

Maybe the newer version op x264 can be a bit slower?

[dianasta]

Hi,

I'm working on full backup X_FILES_2 and getting the following error with v0.28.02


-----------------------
[18:22:37] BD Rebuilder v0.28.02 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_US
- Input BD size: 43.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:33:28.683]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[18:22:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:22:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized.
Please, verify stream fps. File name: I:\BDMV\STREAM\00012.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized.
Please, verify stream fps. File name: I:\BDMV\STREAM\00012.m2ts
[18:22:49] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[18:23:11] BD Rebuilder v0.28.02 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_US
- Input BD size: 43.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:33:28.683]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[18:23:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:23:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [18:23:17] Reencoding: VID_00041 (1 of 38)
- [18:23:17] Collecting video information
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps, 30 frames
- [18:23:17] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:23:20] Video Encode complete
- [18:23:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:23:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:23:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [18:23:22] Reencoding: VID_00017 (2 of 38)
- [18:23:22] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:23:24] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 120 frames
- [18:23:24] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:23:30] Video Encode complete
- [18:23:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:23:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:23:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [18:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00030 (3 of 38)
- [18:23:33] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [18:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:23:35] Video Encode complete
- [18:23:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:23:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:23:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [18:23:38] Reencoding: VID_00028 (4 of 38)
- [18:23:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,515 frames
- [18:23:38] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:24:44] Video Encode complete
- [18:24:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:24:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:24:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [18:24:50] Reencoding: VID_00031 (5 of 38)
- [18:24:50] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,088 frames
- [18:24:50] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:26:34] Video Encode complete
- [18:26:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:26:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:26:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [18:26:39] Reencoding: VID_00034 (6 of 38)
- [18:26:39] Collecting video information
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps, 11,285 frames
- [18:26:39] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:28:51] Video Encode complete
- [18:28:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:28:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:28:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [18:29:15] Reencoding: VID_00004 (7 of 38)
- [18:29:15] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:29:24] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,866 frames
- [18:29:24] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:30:47] Video Encode complete
- [18:30:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:30:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:30:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [18:30:55] Reencoding: VID_00032 (8 of 38)
- [18:30:55] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,736 frames
- [18:30:55] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:32:54] Video Encode complete
- [18:32:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:32:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:32:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [18:33:01] Reencoding: VID_00029 (9 of 38)
- [18:33:01] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,823 frames
- [18:33:02] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:35:11] Video Encode complete
- [18:35:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:35:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:35:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized.
Please, verify stream fps. File name: I:\BDMV\STREAM\00012.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized.
Please, verify stream fps. File name: I:\BDMV\STREAM\00012.m2ts
[18:35:23] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Hi jdobbs,

What are your thougths on the above error?

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Maybe the newer version op x264 can be a bit slower? If it is it isn't noticable on my Phenom system.

[jdobbs]

PMs don't help anybody. If they have an issue they need to post it. I can't fix things reported in someone elses's PM.

The bottom line is that I did the exact same disc with the exact same settings and it sized correctly. What else can I say? The only difference left is your configuration and system. And secret PMs aside, I'm not getting any other reports of massive undersizing on two pass encodes.

I really don't need any more input from your side. I have plenty. I'm going to go through what I have and see if there are any exceptions or circumstances that could make it do something weird.

[Edit] One thing I'd like to know. When if finishes the last M2TS (the one with the huge undersize), what bitrate is listed in LASTCMD.TXT? My encode shows 8853 for 00074.

If I'm reading the very next post correctly, #4565, IeChameleon's log says for 00074.mt2s is:
[01:50:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:50:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [01:51:49] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 30)
- [01:51:49] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 19,972 frames
- Bitrate: 17,941 Kbs
- [01:51:49] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:58:41] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:00:57] Video Encode complete
- [02:00:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:00:57] Multiplexing M2TS
This would appear to be more than double the 8853 for 00074 per jdobbs.
But this probably will not help anyway, because sometimes things just don't compute. :rolleyes: I thought I'd asked earlier if this was a complete encode? Of course it's undersized.... that segment should have 173,130 frames. It's obviously crashing -- which is definitely a system instability. I've seen it before with overclocking... Don't know if that's the case for him.

Since he's reporting success on earlier versions, it could possibly be an incompatibility between his system and X264... but if that were the case there'd be dozens of reports on the AVC forum. All I know is that BD-RB is never going to make 19,972 frames look like 173,130 and I'm on to something else.

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,

What are your thougths on the above error?

Thanks. I'd guess there's something odd about the original mux and TSMUXER can't handle it. One way to get around it is to demux the audio and video separately. You can do it manually. Maybe I'll look for that error and try two demuxes.

I just hate having to keep building workarounds for bad muxes, poor authoring, and bad behaviour. In DVD Rebuilder I probably have a hundred "if this happens because of bad authoring, stand on your head and whistle while building" routines. I always call them "made the code more robust".


[Edit]

Hmmm... I thought that sounded familiar. I already wrote code to redo the demux individually... I'll look at it again -- but frankly right now I'm not sure how you can get the error unless the "redo" doesn't fix it in your case.

[leChameleon]

No overclocking is permitted on our production machines.

[meadrocks]

I backup Wall-E Region 1 w/ 28.03 last night, 3 batch jobs, movie only, bd5, High quality, 1 pass. I queued up 3 Alternate Playlists, 95, 81, then 82. Each job had it's own work directory. 24 hours later it's still working on the 1st job. Here's the .ini file.

-----------------------
[21:37:02] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: QUACK_D1
- Input BD size: 21.36 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:24.565]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[21:37:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:37:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_20001]
- [21:44:00] Reencoding: VID_20001 (1 of 2)
- Analyzing 21.30 10.00 18.20 16.60 16.10 15.70 15.90 16.00 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10

<snipped out 100 lines>

16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 16.10 [16.10]
- Aborted...
[20:42:29]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
[20:42:29] BATCH ABORTED...
==========================

BDBATCH File.

$$$$QUACK_D1, Movie-Only, BD-5, High Quality
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
CRF_ENCODING=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=J:\BD-RD-TEMP\WORK1\
$$$$QUACK_D1, Movie-Only, BD-5, High Quality
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
CRF_ENCODING=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=J:\BD-RD-TEMP\WORK2\
$$$$QUACK_D1, Movie-Only, BD-5, High Quality
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
CRF_ENCODING=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=J:\BD-RD-TEMP\WORK3\


BATCHITEM File ...

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
CRF_ENCODING=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=J:\BD-RD-TEMP\WORK1\



[20:42:29] END - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================

[baudi]

Even though it only has this issue on field based VC-1? Any other type of file works fine with the hyper threading on and it rockets through them using 100% of all 16 cores

Same problems with my system, an i7 920, encoding VC-1 Jonh Q Blu-Ray (Movie-only Backup at High Quality):

-----------------------
[09:45:12] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: BD_MIO
- Input BD size: 23,93 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.208]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[09:45:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:45:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [09:51:46] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[09:51:51] - Failed video encode, aborted


LastCMD.Txt:
"C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\JOHN_Q_BD_MIO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset medium --bitrate 25000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "D:\JOHN_Q_BD_MIO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL

Thank you.

[Capsbackup]

@baudi;
What OS are you using? XP, Vista, W7?
I have an I7 920, using XP Pro 32bit, and have backed up many region 1, NTSC, VC-1 discs to BD-25 full movie and BD-5 movie only, and have never had a problem like this. I don't recall if these are field based VC-1 or not, just whats on the disc works. You will need to provide more info than this for any helpful suggestions.

[deank]

I hate to put you through that. As I found from my attempt to repeat the error, the "Highest" mode takes a LOT of time.

About the HUGE undersize.

Last night I got reports from multiAVCHD users about x264 generating a weird output.

I tested it myself and couldn't replicate the specific case, but I got the same problem after trying different things...

I compared an 'old' x264 and the new one I'm using. 100% same switches (taking into account the changes):

* new x264 creates blocky AVC with bitrates ~50-300kbps, although bitrate is set to 5700kbps

* old x264 creates pristine AVC with bitrate ~5400-5800kbps, with bitrate set to 5700kbps

I have no idea if this is related to this case, but I can't find the reason it happens to me.

old x264: core:67 r1153M 7b6ce6a
new x264: core:69 r1198 a1ed468

Dean

[leChameleon]

To test the theory of potentially system instability, I ran 2 BD-RB jobs (different software versions) and one other CPU intensive job over the last 24 hours. MAD MEN SEASON2 DISC1 using v026.3 finished successfully having the correct output size of 23.4 GB. CAPOTE running v0.28.3 has not completed and is at 54%. Note both jobs have the same setup and initialization settings. MAD MEN was the larger of the two initial file sizes. Max CPU temperature reached 28C. My other job not related to BD-RB is still running as well. The odd thing is that v0.28.3 launched x264 and seems to have hung, I'm monitoring the memory and CPU usage through task manager as well as watching Haali's properties graphic. I'll update later with its status.

[Dark Shikari]

About the HUGE undersize.

Last night I got reports from multiAVCHD users about x264 generating a weird output.

I tested it myself and couldn't replicate the specific case, but I got the same problem after trying different things...

I compared an 'old' x264 and the new one I'm using. 100% same switches (taking into account the changes):

* new x264 creates blocky AVC with bitrates ~50-300kbps, although bitrate is set to 5700kbps

* old x264 creates pristine AVC with bitrate ~5400-5800kbps, with bitrate set to 5700kbps

I have no idea if this is related to this case, but I can't find the reason it happens to me.

old x264: core:67 r1153M 7b6ce6a
new x264: core:69 r1198 a1ed468

DeanThat isn't the latest x264, and may have bugs in it that are now fixed.

If you're going to distribute old x264s, choose one before a set of major changes, not in the middle of them.

[Furiousflea]

To test the theory of potentially system instability, I ran 2 BD-RB jobs (different software versions) and one other CPU intensive job over the last 24 hours. MAD MEN SEASON2 DISC1 using v026.3 finished successfully having the correct output size of 23.4 GB. CAPOTE running v0.28.3 has not completed and is at 54%. Note both jobs have the same setup and initialization settings. MAD MEN was the larger of the two initial file sizes. Max CPU temperature reached 28C. My other job not related to BD-RB is still running as well. The odd thing is that v0.28.3 launched x264 and seems to have hung, I'm monitoring the memory and CPU usage through task manager as well as watching Haali's properties graphic. I'll update later with its status.

Your temperature readings are wrong, there's no way any modern CPU capable of running BDRB in less than a couple of days could be running that cool unless it is on water. I think you said you had an i7 thought right? If so that concrete's it. NO i7 will run under 50c under full load on ANY air cooling.

Download a program called "RealTemp" and prepare to be shocked ;) (it's a tiny program that runs from a single exe).

Also, when you said your production systems aren't overclocked how come you had if I remember correctly a few pages ago your i7 920 which has a default clock of 2.67Ghz...at 3Ghz!

I could be wrong on any of this...just my memory?

In all honesty thought your testing is futile and shows nothing of use to diagnose\confirm a problem\no problem. You need a proper stress testing program to really work it out. Try the multithreaded version of "Prime95", run it on 8 threads if you have HyperThreading on and are on an i7...If you can run that for 6 hours or so your *basically* stable for everyday use. Apologies for my aggressive tone btw just trying to keep it clear :)

[deank]

That isn't the latest x264, and may have bugs in it that are now fixed.

If you're going to distribute old x264s, choose one before a set of major changes, not in the middle of them.

It is a HRD-patched version from last friday, so yes there are new versions. It is that this 'new' version works fine for me, but "fails" only with *some* sources. I'll check later revisions. And - yes - I keep (use) a working one before the major revisions.

Thanks for the input.

[samtroy]

I really don't know, as I'm not using Windows 7. It's possible that it includes all the codecs you need. Vista and XP certainly don't. That level of undersizing is at about 7%, which is more than a typical delta for two pass. What mode did you use to encode? If it was one-pass CRF, that's probably about about right.

Thanks for your answer. I used two pass HQ.

[Adbear]

Your temperature readings are wrong, there's no way any modern CPU capable of running BDRB in less than a couple of days could be running that cool unless it is on water. I think you said you had an i7 thought right? If so that concrete's it. NO i7 will run under 50c under full load on ANY air cooling.

Download a program called "RealTemp" and prepare to be shocked ;) (it's a tiny program that runs from a single exe).

Also, when you said your production systems aren't overclocked how come you had if I remember correctly a few pages ago your i7 920 which has a default clock of 2.67Ghz...at 3Ghz!

I could be wrong on any of this...just my memory?

In all honesty thought your testing is futile and shows nothing of use to diagnose\confirm a problem\no problem. You need a proper stress testing program to really work it out. Try the multithreaded version of "Prime95", run it on 8 threads if you have HyperThreading on and are on an i7...If you can run that for 6 hours or so your *basically* stable for everyday use. Apologies for my aggressive tone btw just trying to keep it clear :)

He's running a 940 not a 920 and it was reporting it running at 3.05

[drmih]

@jdobbs

I got around to trying Madagascar2 again but it's still not working correctly. Doing a full backup to bd-25 the main audio is fine, as is the film makers commentary. However, when you switch on 'Animators Corner' the PiP appears but there is no sound. This applies to both TMT3 and a Sony 550. Tsmuxer says the sound is present and TMT3 shows the secondary audio switched on. I have tried playing the original and that is fine and appears to have all of the same settings for PiP using TMT3.
The only thing slightly different is in TSMuxer where on the original you have the videos, then the main audio tracks, then the PGS and finally the secondary audio track. On the re-encoded one (allowing for the missing non-english ones) the secondary audio is the last audio track but before the PGSs.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs

I got around to trying Madagascar2 again but it's still not working correctly. Doing a full backup to bd-25 the main audio is fine, as is the film makers commentary. However, when you switch on 'Animators Corner' the PiP appears but there is no sound. This applies to both TMT3 and a Sony 550. Tsmuxer says the sound is present and TMT3 shows the secondary audio switched on. I have tried playing the original and that is fine and appears to have all of the same settings for PiP using TMT3.
The only thing slightly different is in TSMuxer where on the original you have the videos, then the main audio tracks, then the PGS and finally the secondary audio track. On the re-encoded one (allowing for the missing non-english ones) the secondary audio is the last audio track but before the PGSs.

Is your Blu-Ray player's audio setup set to "Direct" for audio playback? If so, you may need to change it to "Mixed" to hear the secondary audio being played. I believe this is true for DTS HD Master, but not sure for True HD.( You will still hear your HD audio, it just might not be displayed on your receiver as such).
Thanks to Furiousflea for pointing this out to me. :)

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs...

Just an update, it seems that Pinnochio is now the ONLY disc I own with PiP problems (obviously containing eac3 and not DTS express).

For now, I would maybe write it off as a quirk of this disc...

[Eisy]

How or where can I modify the encoder settings ?

[setarip_old]

@Elsy

Hi!

I guess you overlooked the title of this thread, which is:BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[GaPony]

@ setarip_old

He's preparing to make some bugs to report. :)

[jdobbs]

How or where can I modify the encoder settings ?Not in this thread. For that matter, not in BD-RB. You can choose the quality level and the settings associated, but not the specific command lines.

Thats purposeful and isn't likely to change. There a certain settings that are required to be Blu-ray compliant -- and I insist that I contol them to ensure it works. I've had too many problems with "creative users" causing a self-inflicted-sucking-chest-wound and then screaming at me...

Sorry.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs...

Just an update, it seems that Pinnochio is now the ONLY disc I own with PiP problems (obviously containing eac3 and not DTS express).

For now, I would maybe write it off as a quirk of this disc... I'm going to have PiP processing enabled by default in the next release.

I'd still like to see what the issue is on Pinnochio.

[Capsbackup]

Just completed a full movie backup to BD-25 of Transformers, Region A, a PiP movie with DD Plus secondary audio. The movie backs up successfully, but the secondary video track does not play like the original.
The original starts with some pop up descriptive subtitles surrounded by a border. BD-RB has only the english subtitles to the audio track, not the descriptive ones with the border around it. The PiP video and audio that starts at approx. six minutes into the movie works fine, just like the original.
So only the descriptive portion of the PiP does not seem to work correctly.

[jdobbs]

Just completed a full movie backup to BD-25 of Transformers, Region A, a PiP movie with DD Plus secondary audio. The movie backs up successfully, but the secondary video track does not play like the original.
The original starts with some pop up descriptive subtitles surrounded by a border. BD-RB has only the english subtitles to the audio track, not the descriptive ones with the border around it. The PiP video and audio that starts at approx. six minutes into the movie works fine, just like the original.
So only the descriptive portion of the PiP does not seem to work correctly. Look at your Subtitle selections in SETUP. For example, if you tell it to keep only one subtitle in a language, it might be stripping the one you're missing.

[Capsbackup]

Look at your Subtitle selections in SETUP. For example, if you tell it to keep only one subtitle in a language, it might be stripping the one you're missing.

I chose to select all subtitles. BD-RB appears to have hard coded the english subtitles to the english audio language track, and I cannot turn it off or change the selection.
Subtitles available for this 00010.m2ts are 2 eng,1 Fre, 1 Spa, and 1 Port.

EDIT:
Subtitles even play over the PiP video window. On the original, subtitles are not displayed and are not selectable either.
EDIT:
It looks like I missed a subtitle track after all. :o
I should know better, thats what the scroll bar is for. :p
I apologize, and will give it another try.

[drmih]

Is your Blu-Ray player's audio setup set to "Direct" for audio playback? If so, you may need to change it to "Mixed" to hear the secondary audio being played. I believe this is true for DTS HD Master, but not sure for True HD.( You will still hear your HD audio, it just might not be displayed on your receiver as such).
Thanks to Furiousflea for pointing this out to me. :)

..but the original plays fine on the same kit, and I tend to use TMT3 to check all of the settings to see what's 'on' and what's 'off'. TMT3 on a pc plays the ripped original fine but loses the secondary audio output on the bd-25 version.

[baudi]

@baudi;
What OS are you using? XP, Vista, W7?
I have an I7 920, using XP Pro 32bit, and have backed up many region 1, NTSC, VC-1 discs to BD-25 full movie and BD-5 movie only, and have never had a problem like this. I don't recall if these are field based VC-1 or not, just whats on the disc works. You will need to provide more info than this for any helpful suggestions.

Problem solved!

By installing MS Windows Media Video 11 my VC-1 problems were resolved.

My O.S. is Windows XP Pro 32bit SP3.

Thank you.

[daberti]

Defaults are:

NTSC @ 23.976
SAMPLE_GROUP=4800
SAMPLE_SIZE = "48"

NTSC @ 29.97
SAMPLE_GROUP=6000
SAMPLE_SIZE=60

PAL @ 25
SAMPLE_GROUP=5000
SAMPLE_SIZE=50

Thanks :)

One thing I cannot understand, though: all of my Blurays are labelled as Region B and PAL. Yet they are 23.976 .
Where is the trick?

[jdobbs]

Thanks :)

One thing I cannot understand, though: all of my Blurays are labelled as Region B and PAL. Yet they are 23.976 .
Where is the trick? If it's 23.976 it will use 4800/48 -- I guess I shouldn't have labeled that one as NTSC, since it's used in both (it wasn't in DVD).

[jdobbs]

To test the theory of potentially system instability, I ran 2 BD-RB jobs (different software versions) and one other CPU intensive job over the last 24 hours. MAD MEN SEASON2 DISC1 using v026.3 finished successfully having the correct output size of 23.4 GB. CAPOTE running v0.28.3 has not completed and is at 54%. Note both jobs have the same setup and initialization settings. MAD MEN was the larger of the two initial file sizes. Max CPU temperature reached 28C. My other job not related to BD-RB is still running as well. The odd thing is that v0.28.3 launched x264 and seems to have hung, I'm monitoring the memory and CPU usage through task manager as well as watching Haali's properties graphic. I'll update later with its status. Well no matter what results you get -- here's the bottom line. Your system isn't finishing a full encode. No one else is reporting the same problem as you. I ran the exact same disc on my computer and it came out right.

Just those three things alone make it virtually 100% clear that it is your system that is the issue, not BD-RB or X264. So no matter how the tests come out -- your system (the only remaining variable) is the issue.

Sorry -- but I've been doing this a long time, and when you remove the things that are proven ok from the equation, the problem is somewhere in the part that is remaining.

[jdobbs]

I sit possible that the new version is slower than the previous one? I use the default quality settings every time. Good enough for me. But I`ve lost about 5 frames per second on the first pass with the new version. Any idea? I'm wondering too. I'm in the middle of an encode at High Quality that is running at 4.59fps. While there's always the possibility that it could just be something peculiar in this source, I've always run at 8-9fps before and would only occasionally drop into the 7's.

After this pass is over I'll run a side-by-side comparison.

[Update] My virus scanner was running in background... duhhh.... I guess I'm not wondering anymore. :)

[Dark Shikari]

(assuming you're using a recent x264) MB-tree requires more processing in the lookahead of the first pass, so with large numbers of cores the first pass may be significantly slower. Second pass should be faster though.

This will be mostly mitigated when the threaded slicetype patch is done--it almost is.

Also, the Handbrake guys' testing has reported gains on TV and DVD sources of about 10-30%+ quality-wise with MB-tree, so I'd say it's worth it.

[jdobbs]

This is the second pass (using r1210). It's on four cores (all running at 100%). It's too early to report as fact, though. This movie has 2 1/2 hours of encoding left. When it's done I'll do some testing with old/new versions.

I've definitely seen improvement in quality with MB-tree, especially when the bitrate gets challenging. I have a Firefly series disc with 5 hours of HD video on it that never looked quite good enough in a backup to me before -- the newer versions cleaned it up nicely.

[jdobbs]

(assuming you're using a recent x264) MB-tree requires more processing in the lookahead of the first pass, so with large numbers of cores the first pass may be significantly slower. Second pass should be faster though.

This will be mostly mitigated when the threaded slicetype patch is done--it almost is.

Also, the Handbrake guys' testing has reported gains on TV and DVD sources of about 10-30%+ quality-wise with MB-tree, so I'd say it's worth it. Whatever it is it has nothing to do with MB-tree. I just killed the job and then took the commandline and ran it (pass 2) in two dos windows (exact same settings except --no-mbtree in one).

The window with mb-tree enabled is running about 6% faster than the "--no-mbtree" command.

[Capsbackup]

Just to confirm, Transformers does backup successfully with PiP working properly, descriptive subs and video, with PowerDVD 7.3. I will burn to BD-RE for final test on my BX1.
Thanks jdobbs for quickly finding my mistake. :p

[jdobbs]

Whatever it is it has nothing to do with MB-tree. I just killed the job and then took the commandline and ran it (pass 2) in two dos windows (exact same settings except --no-mbtree in one).

The window with mb-tree enabled is running about 6% faster than the "--no-mbtree" command.Same conclusion between versions. I also just ran two windows side-by-side (using r1195 and r1210) on pass 2 -- and r1210 is faster. So it's obviously something on my system or the source that's slowing it down, and nothing to do with X264 updates.

[jdobbs]

Problem solved!

By installing MS Windows Media Video 11 my VC-1 problems were resolved.

My O.S. is Windows XP Pro 32bit SP3.

Thank you. We discussed that along the way in this thread -- and the recommendation is that WMV11 should be the codec of choice. Unfortunately it is buried somewhere in this very long thread. I'll add it as a recommendation on the first post.

[Capsbackup]

..but the original plays fine on the same kit, and I tend to use TMT3 to check all of the settings to see what's 'on' and what's 'off'. TMT3 on a pc plays the ripped original fine but loses the secondary audio output on the bd-25 version.

I don't own TMT3, so I cannot comment there, but if you try to change the audio setup on your S550 to "mixed", I think the secondary audio will now be heard.
I just tested Transformers, which has True HD for the main audio track, and DD Plus for the secondary track. Unless I change my Sony BDP-BX1's audio selector to mixed from direct, I do not hear the secondary audio either. This is true for the original and the BD-RB backup.
This is certainly an inconvenience, a shortcoming on behalf of the Blu-Ray Mfg's and Blu-Ray authoring company's, to have to change a setup for the BD player to be able to enjoy a feature on the disc. ( I believe anyway :rolleyes: )

[baudi]

We discussed that along the way in this thread -- and the recommendation is that WMV11 should be the codec of choice. Unfortunately it is buried somewhere in this very long thread. I'll add it as a recommendation on the first post.

+1

Thanks master.

[drmih]

I don't own TMT3, so I cannot comment there, but if you try to change the audio setup on your S550 to "mixed", I think the secondary audio will now be heard.
I just tested Transformers, which has True HD for the main audio track, and DD Plus for the secondary track. Unless I change my Sony BDP-BX1's audio selector to mixed from direct, I do not hear the secondary audio either. This is true for the original and the BD-RB backup.
This is certainly an inconvenience, a shortcoming on behalf of the Blu-Ray Mfg's and Blu-Ray authoring company's, to have to change a setup for the BD player to be able to enjoy a feature on the disc. ( I believe anyway :rolleyes: )

You're quite right that does work on the Sony and therefore it'll do but I do think that as the original ripped version works on a pc with TMT3 and the bd-25 doesn't that something is slightly wrong.

[Furiousflea]

You're quite right that does work on the Sony and therefore it'll do but I do think that as the original ripped version works on a pc with TMT3 and the bd-25 doesn't that something is slightly wrong.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm only saying it to be sure that you're reporting a genuine bug

My suspicion is that you have downloaded the "original" and and mounted that as an ISO on your hard drive and run it on TMT3 and it works with the PiP audio intact (as it should). However you have only tried the ISO on your standalone after running it through BDRB and burning to BD25 and playing that on your standalone...Thereby experiencing the missing audio that happens on the Sony bluray players unless you have the audio output set to "Mix" in the setup menu.

Thus, jumping to the conclusion that the original wouldn't do this because it doesn't with TMT3 having never actually tested the original ISO with the Sony standalone since you don't have a BD50 disc.

Sorry dude for assuming this, but it's defo a likely scenario for some people ain't making a judgment on morals or anything here.

[GaPony]

How does the original Blu-Ray disc act on the SAP. You should be comparing the BD-RB copy to the original disc, not to the ripped file playing on TMT.

[Lif3styl3]

Hi,

tried reencoding DER_VORLESER, but i'am getting the message reencoding failed every time i tried it.

-----------------------
[10:56:54] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: DER_VORLESER
- Input BD size: 27,68 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:14.688]
- Target BD size: 21,92 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[10:56:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:56:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11:07:02] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[11:10:19] - Failed video encode, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=DER_VORLESER
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=29724641280
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=29724641280
TARGET_SIZE=23540531200
REDUCTION=.791953415963982
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00000]
AUDIO=000
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=23540531200
RATE=23450


I'am using windows 7 as Operating System. It's the real Version which is available at MSDNAA since last week. So it's an original licended version and no beta or rc.

Other movies worked fine,....

Any ideas ?

[DK]

Same title, different settings, no problems

-----------------------
[22:51:50] BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta)
- Source: DER_VORLESER
- Input BD size: 29,62 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:14.697]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:51:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:51:52] Reencoding: VID_00005 (1 of 1)
[12:13:01]PHASE ONE complete
[12:13:01]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:13:01] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:22:02] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[12:22:02]JOB: DER_VORLESER finished.


[Status]
LABEL=DER_VORLESER
VERSION=v0.27.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=31802757120
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=31802757120
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.260802424415711
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
COMPLETED=1
[00005]
AUDIO=1100
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=8294236160
RATE=7240
NSIZE=7093045248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

Hi,

tried reencoding DER_VORLESER, but i'am getting the message reencoding failed every time i tried it.







I'am using windows 7 as Operating System. It's the real Version which is available at MSDNAA since last week. So it's an original licended version and no beta or rc.

Other movies worked fine,....

Any ideas ? BD-RB does not currently support Windows 7 (which isn't scheduled to be released until October 22nd). It has been reported to work, but that O/S still has bugs that are being worked.

BTW... if it were the "real" verstion and not a beta or rc, Microsoft would have it on the shelves already. They don't keep a completed product in their development shop for two months awaiting release... more typically they release it before its ready and clean it up afterward. JMHO

[Lif3styl3]

Hi Jdobbs,

i think you arent't informed correctly. Microsoft has launched a community for universitys a few years ago. There are all microsoft products available for free with licence keys which are downloaded directly via microsoft servers.

The public production for windows 7 and win 2008 r2 was started 3 weeks ago, and since last week microsoft has published the final version for students in their msdnaa community.

Thats the link to our university:
Our MSdnAA (http://msdn40.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=lah_wirtsch)

Ok,...
Then i will try reencoding this movie on my laptop using win xp.

[Furiousflea]

BD-RB does not currently support Windows 7 (which isn't scheduled to be released until October 22nd). It has been reported to work, but that O/S still has bugs that are being worked.

BTW... if it were the "real" verstion and not a beta or rc, Microsoft would have it on the shelves already. They don't keep a completed product in their development shop for two months awaiting release... more typically they release it before its ready and clean it up afterward. JMHO

It is the RTM version been available for the past couple of weeks. Similar to the cracked Vista release where a bios emulator is used to maintain activation with an OEM volume license key from that bios manufacturer. Ummm anyways :)

[jdobbs]

Hi Jdobbs,

i think you arent't informed correctly. Microsoft has launched a community for universitys a few years ago. There are all microsoft products available for free with licence keys which are downloaded directly via microsoft servers.

The public production for windows 7 and win 2008 r2 was started 3 weeks ago, and since last week microsoft has published the final version for students in their msdnaa community.

Thats the link to your university:
Our MSdnAA (http://msdn40.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=lah_wirtsch)

Ok,...
Then i will try reencoding this movie on my laptop using win xp. Just for the record. It is Microsoft's job to make sure that their Operating System remains compatible with the standards they themselves developed -- not the other way around. If there is an issue with software running on Windows 7 -- they should fix Windows 7, not expect 100,000 software developers to adapt to their poor planning and configuration control. Again JMHO.

The release date I quoted is directly from the Microsoft 7 site. If they're wrong then... well I guess that wouldn't surprise me either.

Frankly I'm tired of having to clean up their mess every two years or so.

[Furiousflea]

Hi Jdobbs,

i think you arent't informed correctly. Microsoft has launched a community for universitys a few years ago. There are all microsoft products available for free with licence keys which are downloaded directly via microsoft servers.

The public production for windows 7 and win 2008 r2 was started 3 weeks ago, and since last week microsoft has published the final version for students in their msdnaa community.

Thats the link to our university:
Our MSdnAA (http://msdn40.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=lah_wirtsch)

Ok,...
Then i will try reencoding this movie on my laptop using win xp.

You will have problems encoding VC1 material in Windows 7 unless you do some registry editing? Is that m2ts that is failing encoded in VC1? Were the other successful discs encoded in VC1? I'm using an evaluation RTM version of Windows 7 and have done a good 10-15 discs with no problem after setting the registry correctly.

[jdobbs]

You will have problems encoding VC1 material in Windows 7 unless you do some registry editing? Is that m2ts that is failing encoded in VC1? Were the other successful discs encoded in VC1? I'm using an evaluation RTM version of Windows 7 and have done a good 10-15 discs with no problem after setting the registry correctly. I guess I'm going to have to make BD-RB look at those registry settings and change them when is sees Windows 7 so their Operating System remains consistent with it's previous version. Otherwise I'll keep getting bug reports for Microsoft's FU. I was kinda' hoping they'd correct that when they get to a final release.

If I sound pissed at MS its because I am. I got an automatic Windows Update for Vista yesterday that screwed my system up, rearranged my desktop, and reset my video to the wrong resolution. So I won't be saying anything nice about them for a while. Buncha' Dicks. :)

[Lif3styl3]

hi,

you 're right its my first disc in vc1 since i'am using windows 7

which value has to be changed ??

[Lif3styl3]

jdobbs, you are right about the release date.
Since Windows Vista Microsoft do a pre Release for all msdnaa users after the final version started to be produced.

And your opinion about microsofts behaviour, regarding ignoring there own standards is also right.

I'am programmer too.

by the way for me the problem regarding hd tracks are reencoded to dolby digital tracks isn't solved.
In my case bd rebuilder has got the hd soundfiles in his working directory, but did't use them.

So i have got the oppertunity to change this by myself, but it wouldn't be nicer bd-rebuilder would do the job for me.
I've got this problem since winxp in all of your versions which supported keep hd audio.

[jdobbs]

hi,

you 're right its my first disc in vc1 since i'am using windows 7

which value has to be changed ??I think it's in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924). But I don't have Windows 7, so I can't really say what works and what doesn't.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, you are right about the release date.
Since Windows Vista Microsoft do a pre Release for all msdnaa users after the final version started to be produced.

And your opinion about microsofts behaviour, regarding ignoring there own standards is also right.

I'am programmer too.

by the way for me the problem regarding hd tracks are reencoded to dolby digital tracks isn't solved.
In my case bd rebuilder has got the hd soundfiles in his working directory, but did't use them.

So i have got the oppertunity to change this by myself, but it wouldn't be nicer bd-rebuilder would do the job for me.
I've got this problem since winxp in all of your versions which supported keep hd audio. I don't think I understand. You are selecting to keep HD but it is still being reencoded to AC3? If so, please post your BDREBUILDER.INI file so I can see your settings.

[Lif3styl3]

I think it's in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924). But I don't have Windows 7, so I can't really say what works and what doesn't.


i have found this thread by myself. Nevertheless thanks.
I give it a try.

[Lif3styl3]

I don't think I understand. You are selecting to keep HD but it is still being reencoded to AC3? If so, please post your BDREBUILDER.INI file so I can see your settings.

here's my ini file

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22450
TARGET_SIZE=22450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DOCUMENTS\DVDFAB\ISO\DER_VORLESER\
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\

Using the same configuration for every BluRay.
The target_size is reduced by 1Gb, because the hd audio doesn't fit, wehen bd rebuilder has switched to dolby digital.

The Result of ever bd rb disc is, that my hd data is lost, but hd data is still availabe in the workingfile, which i'am using to create a blu ray with hd audio.

After reencoding of DER_VORLESER i could post the newest results.

[Lif3styl3]

ok,...

after changing the registry and editing the vc1 encoder the reencoding of the vorleser is still running.
So it seems to be working.

[Furiousflea]

For anyone still having problems with Windows 7 VC1 encoding...

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283290#post1283290

Do that and it will work, follow the link in his step by step guide. It's pretty simple really. I've got everything working same as Vista by doing that and then even getting interlaced hybrid VC1 working by having TMT2 and the VC1 Tweaker installed...

It's not complicated but might take a few times to get it working, for me I wasn't sure which version of the tweaker to install. Also note that TMT2 itself doesn't actually work in Windows 7 but the decoding engine does work. (which is used by BDRB once you have set it to use the TMT2 decoding for VC1 for those interested)

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
From the discussion going on here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148826), I wonder if DB-RB should set --level 4.0 for best blu-ray compliance, because x.264 doesn't use slices.
Secondly, is --nal-hrd set by tsmuxer?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
From the discussion going on here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148826), I wonder if DB-RB should set --level 4.0 for best blu-ray compliance, because x.264 doesn't use slices.
Secondly, is --nal-hrd set by tsmuxer? I'll check out the link, but I've been involved in similar discussions before. Frankly I think its much ado about nothing. If you set to 4.0 you're also limiting other parts of the encode (like bitrate). Level 4.1 is what Blu-ray intended, but 4.0 works. I may set it if I ever hear of problems that appear to be related.

nal-hrd is set by TSMUXER, so you don't have to worry about it in X264. If/when I finish my own muxer module it will do it as well.

[leChameleon]

Furiousflea and jdobbs, Are either of you running a Intel i7 940 on a x58 architecture? Or is anyone else here running this architecture?

[Capsbackup]

Furiousflea and jdobbs, Are either of you running a Intel i7 940 on a x58 architecture? Or is anyone else here running this architecture?

I7 920, 2.67GHz, x58, Asus P6T Deluxe, 3 GB triple channel memory(1333), 1000watt PSU, XP Pro SP3.
Very pleased, no stability issues. Fast.

[Adbear]

I've had no issues on 3 systems running 920's with 6GB ram and Vista 64, my issues have only been on Dual Xeon i7 systems

[Lif3styl3]

Hi Jdobbs, i've got the same Problem with der_voleser. Every track was reencoded to Dolby Digital, even the normal DTS tracks.

Heres the mux_movie_only.meta where you will see the reencodinh to AC3:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:06:52.912;00:16:16.308;00:22:53.455;00:27:38.656;00:37:13.689;00:46:02.468;01:04:15.393;01:09:16.443;01:18:17.359;01:25:33.169;01:34:09.644;01:41:52.731;01:53:34.557;02:04:14.447 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\VID_00005.AVS.MKV", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\AUD_00005_4352.AC3", lang=deu
A_AC3, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\AUD_00005_4354.AC3", lang=deu
A_AC3, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\AUD_00005_4355.AC3", lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\00005.track_4608.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=deu

[Category 5]

The latest version from the first page is giving me a "expired - try newer version" message. PC date and time are correct and there is no newer version so what gives?

[Furiousflea]

Furiousflea and jdobbs, Are either of you running a Intel i7 940 on a x58 architecture? Or is anyone else here running this architecture?

Well I got a 920\x58 based motherboard at 4.1Ghz. All i7 chips are the same basically.

[jdobbs]

The latest version from the first page is giving me a "expired - try newer version" message. PC date and time are correct and there is no newer version so what gives? The one on the first page doesn't expire for over a a month from now... and it's running right now on my system. I think you're mistaken. Are you sure you're pointing to that version?

If the file has been modified/hacked in any way it might also cause that message. I'd suggest you do a virus scan on your system and then download again.

[GaPony]

His shortcut is probably aimed at an older version. I've done that several times. :)

[brogan]

JDobbs, thanks for all the hard work. Love this app very much. W/the latest build, have been experiencing the same error when trying to rebuild a BD50 to BD25. I also now get this error w/earlier versions of BD-RB. I'm currently using Windows 7 Ultimate x64 w/a i920 & 6GB of triple channel memory. Have been able to rebuild a couple dozen movies before I started getting this error. I uninstalled Avisynth, Haali & ffdshow then reinstalled but I still get this error...can anyone help me?



-----------------------
[11:18:36] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: BLUE.THUNDER.1983.1080P.BLURAY.AVC.TRUEHD.5.1-HDC
- Input BD size: 32.22 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:56:00.616]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[11:18:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:18:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00513]
- [11:18:37] Reencoding: VID_00513 (1 of 11)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00513.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[11:18:38] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[13:26:08] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: BLUE_THUNDER_-_BD
- Input BD size: 32.22 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:56:00.616]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[13:26:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:26:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00513]
- [13:26:10] Reencoding: VID_00513 (1 of 11)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00513.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[13:26:11] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[16:32:26] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: THE_EMPIRE_STRIKES_BACK
- Input BD size: 39.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:17:29.991]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[16:32:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:32:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [16:32:28] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 5)
- [16:32:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [16:32:30] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 5)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00006.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[16:32:30] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[Furiousflea]

JDobbs, thanks for all the hard work. Love this app very much. W/the latest build, have been experiencing the same error when trying to rebuild a BD50 to BD25. I also now get this error w/earlier versions of BD-RB. I'm currently using Windows 7 Ultimate x64 w/a i920 & 6GB of triple channel memory. Have been able to rebuild a couple dozen movies before I started getting this error. I uninstalled Avisynth, Haali & ffdshow then reinstalled but I still get this error...can anyone help me?



-----------------------
[11:18:36] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: BLUE.THUNDER.1983.1080P.BLURAY.AVC.TRUEHD.5.1-HDC - Input BD size: 32.22 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:56:00.616]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[11:18:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:18:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00513]
- [11:18:37] Reencoding: VID_00513 (1 of 11)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00513.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[11:18:38] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[13:26:08] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: BLUE_THUNDER_-_BD
- Input BD size: 32.22 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:56:00.616]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[13:26:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:26:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00513]
- [13:26:10] Reencoding: VID_00513 (1 of 11)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00513.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[13:26:11] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[16:32:26] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: THE_EMPIRE_STRIKES_BACK
- Input BD size: 39.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:17:29.991]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[16:32:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:32:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [16:32:28] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 5)
- [16:32:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [16:32:30] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 5)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00006.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[16:32:30] - Failed to build structure, aborted

BLUE.THUNDER.1983.1080P.BLURAY.AVC.TRUEHD.5.1-HDC :rolleyes:

You want help with a pirated source?

Furthermore, The Empire Strikes Back isn't even available on Bluray...I suggest you sling your hook and don't post.

Just looked at your post history...

BDRB is not for backing up your downloaded Blurays, home made blurays...Its for backing up UNMODIFIED store bought blurays.

[brogan]

FF,

thanks for all your help, much appreciated
:p

[focuspuller]

Hi. I love the program and rarely get errors. I have now, however run into a problem that I don't know how to solve and was wondering if you could help me. The source is 12 Monkeys US. Do you need any other information?

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[17:52:58] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: 12_MONKEYS_G51_GLO
- Input BD size: 39.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:09.816]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[17:53:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:53:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [18:03:39] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 2)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.

[Category 5]

The one on the first page doesn't expire for over a a month from now... and it's running right now on my system. I think you're mistaken. Are you sure you're pointing to that version?

If the file has been modified/hacked in any way it might also cause that message. I'd suggest you do a virus scan on your system and then download again.

Hmm. Somehow my system date got set back 10 days. Resetting fixed it. Funny thing is, it didn't fix it until I redownloaded it after resetting the correct date. AT any rate its working now, so thanks.

[jdobbs]

Hi. I love the program and rarely get errors. I have now, however run into a problem that I don't know how to solve and was wondering if you could help me. The source is 12 Monkeys US. Do you need any other information?

-----------------------
[17:52:58] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: 12_MONKEYS_G51_GLO
- Input BD size: 39.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:09.816]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[17:53:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:53:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [18:03:39] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 2)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.Whenever you see this error, immediately copy the command line from LASTCMD.TXT in the BD-RB directory and paste it into a command window. Then you will be able to see what error X264 is running into.

If you've recently upgraded to Win7 -- search the thread.

[drmih]

Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm only saying it to be sure that you're reporting a genuine bug

My suspicion is that you have downloaded the "original" and and mounted that as an ISO on your hard drive and run it on TMT3 and it works with the PiP audio intact (as it should). However you have only tried the ISO on your standalone after running it through BDRB and burning to BD25 and playing that on your standalone...Thereby experiencing the missing audio that happens on the Sony bluray players unless you have the audio output set to "Mix" in the setup menu.

Thus, jumping to the conclusion that the original wouldn't do this because it doesn't with TMT3 having never actually tested the original ISO with the Sony standalone since you don't have a BD50 disc.

Sorry dude for assuming this, but it's defo a likely scenario for some people ain't making a judgment on morals or anything here.

I appreciate that the Sony has a flaw / limitation and I hadn't tried the original on it for PiP - it's set to direct as I also have a LG which doesn't output 7 channels independently which does play the disc fine (again I've just checked it). I can honestly say I've never watched a PiP or intend to start but this issue was more to do with the Sony losing the main audio on bd-9 and perhaps it would be resolved with a 'proper' PiP structure. It's nonsense to suggest, as others have, that verifying the outputs with TMT on the pc first is somehow a flawed process. The ripped image, or playing the disc on a pc with TMT, works fine. The bd-25 version doesn't allow the secondary audio to be played - somehow there is a difference apart from encoding. It doesn't matter from my perspective regarding the bd-25, but as this thread is about identifying bugs it might be that some small tweak could impact on other functionality.

I didn't take this the wrong way as we all appreciate that problems caused from those who have downloaded corrupt versions.

[Furiousflea]

I appreciate that the Sony has a flaw / limitation and I hadn't tried the original on it for PiP - it's set to direct as I also have a LG which doesn't output 7 channels independently which does play the disc fine (again I've just checked it). I can honestly say I've never watched a PiP or intend to start but this issue was more to do with the Sony losing the main audio on bd-9 and perhaps it would be resolved with a 'proper' PiP structure. It's nonsense to suggest, as others have, that verifying the outputs with TMT on the pc first is somehow a flawed process. The ripped image, or playing the disc on a pc with TMT, works fine. The bd-25 version doesn't allow the secondary audio to be played - somehow there is a difference apart from encoding. It doesn't matter from my perspective regarding the bd-25, but as this thread is about identifying bugs it might be that some small tweak could impact on other functionality.

I didn't take this the wrong way as we all appreciate that problems caused from those who have downloaded corrupt versions.

:) does seem a bit weird, could you say which title is giving this issue. Maybe someone else has this disc.

[drmih]

Madagascar 2

[nwg]

Hi. I love the program and rarely get errors. I have now, however run into a problem that I don't know how to solve and was wondering if you could help me. The source is 12 Monkeys US. Do you need any other information?

-----------------------
[17:52:58] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: 12_MONKEYS_G51_GLO
- Input BD size: 39.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:09.816]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[17:53:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:53:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [18:03:39] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 2)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.

I got the same problem and was down to a corrupted Haali Media Splitter. I reinstalled and it is fine now.

[leChameleon]

Is there a x264 build difference released in BD-RB v0.26.03 and v0.28.03?
If so what are the build numbers for each BD-RB release?

[jdobbs]

Is there a x264 build difference released in BD-RB v0.26.03 and v0.28.03?
If so what are the build numbers for each BD-RB release? Yes. It is documented in the change log ("changes.txt").

[leChameleon]

v0.26.03 uses x264 r1183, v0.28.03 uses r1206.

I was wondering if the command syntax is the same, at least for the "LASTCMD.TXT" commands BD-RB submits or where can one reference the x264 command syntax for each build? I don't see it listed on wiki or videolan's web site.

I want to see if I'm able to replace x264's exe for testing from v0.26.03 to v0.28.03.

[leChameleon]

dupe, sorry.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Hi Guys,

Just got my copy of Dexter Season 3 - RETAIL!! not from the newsgroups!!!!

And its working now on the 2 pass but it got stuck in a loop on the 1pass encode.

Here is the log file. After i'm done the 2 pass i'm going to check the 1 pass again and see if this is still happening of if it was a random error. It basically got stuck in a loop analyzing the video:

[08:32:19] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: DEXTER_S3D1
- Input BD size: 42.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:33:11.612]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[08:32:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:32:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [08:32:34] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 6)
- Analyzing 18.95 22.50 23.00 23.50 23.20 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10
23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.05 [23.05]
- Aborted...

[setarip_old]

@Kakashi Sensei

Hi!RETAIL!! not from the newsgroups!!!!Why, oh why, would you go out of your way to (totally unnecessarily) mention this?

[Kakashi Sensei]

B/C i got it early and seen some people get flamed for DL'ing askin questions about Blurays they downloaded. Wanted to be clear it was retail.

Sorry if it was unnecessary, not my intention.

[jc243]

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[22:17:18] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: DIEHXXX3_US
- Input BD size: 41,09 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:01:39.092]
- Target BD size: 22,80 GB
[22:17:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:17:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [22:25:22] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 22)
- [08:43:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [08:44:25] Reencoding: VID_00003 (2 of 22)
- [09:13:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [09:13:42] Reencoding: VID_00004 (3 of 22)
- [09:13:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [09:14:16] Reencoding: VID_00005 (4 of 22)
- [09:44:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [09:44:18] Reencoding: VID_00006 (5 of 22)
- [09:50:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [09:50:13] Reencoding: VID_00007 (6 of 22)
- [09:58:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [09:58:42] Reencoding: VID_00008 (7 of 22)
- [10:04:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [10:04:28] Reencoding: VID_00009 (8 of 22)
- [10:06:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [10:07:09] Reencoding: VID_00010 (9 of 22)
- [10:17:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [10:17:46] Reencoding: VID_00011 (10 of 22)
- [10:31:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [10:31:57] Reencoding: VID_00012 (11 of 22)
- [10:44:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [10:44:12] Reencoding: VID_00019 (12 of 22)
- [10:48:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [10:48:42] Reencoding: VID_00020 (13 of 22)
- [10:53:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [10:53:10] Reencoding: VID_00021 (14 of 22)
- [10:53:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [10:53:17] Reencoding: VID_00022 (15 of 22)
- [10:59:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [10:59:28] Reencoding: VID_00023 (16 of 22)
- [11:01:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [11:01:15] Reencoding: VID_00024 (17 of 22)
- [11:08:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [11:08:41] Reencoding: VID_00025 (18 of 22)
- [11:10:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [11:10:42] Reencoding: VID_00026 (19 of 22)
- [11:15:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [11:15:51] Reencoding: VID_00027 (20 of 22)
- [11:26:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [11:26:30] Reencoding: VID_00028 (21 of 22)
- [11:36:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [11:36:09] Reencoding: VID_00029 (22 of 22)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[11:36:11] - Failed video encode, aborted

VID_00029 ONLY 30KB IN M2TS SOURCE

[jdobbs]

v0.26.03 uses x264 r1183, v0.28.03 uses r1206.

I was wondering if the command syntax is the same, at least for the "LASTCMD.TXT" commands BD-RB submits or where can one reference the x264 command syntax for each build? I don't see it listed on wiki or videolan's web site.

I want to see if I'm able to replace x264's exe for testing from v0.26.03 to v0.28.03. No it isn't. Later versions of X264 use PRESET settings. When those were implemented I started using them instead of discrete settings.

[jdobbs]

Hi Guys,

Just got my copy of Dexter Season 3 - RETAIL!! not from the newsgroups!!!!

And its working now on the 2 pass but it got stuck in a loop on the 1pass encode.

Here is the log file. After i'm done the 2 pass i'm going to check the 1 pass again and see if this is still happening of if it was a random error. It basically got stuck in a loop analyzing the video:

[08:32:19] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: DEXTER_S3D1
- Input BD size: 42.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:33:11.612]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[08:32:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:32:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [08:32:34] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 6)
- Analyzing 18.95 22.50 23.00 23.50 23.20 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10
23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.10 23.05 [23.05]
- Aborted...

Ughh.. I'll look at it.

[Lif3styl3]

hi jdobbs,

is there another handling for fast blu ray encoding (with 25gb) regarding the audio stream ???

Using this option i'am getting the hd audio tracks, using the normal endocding i'am getting only dolby digital tracks.

tested with der_vorleser.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Ughh.. I'll look at it.

Just so you know I aborted it b/c it was in a loop, BD-RB didn't.

After its done a successful encode i'll test it out again in 1 pass. Anything you want me to do in particular that would help in troubleshooting?

[jdobbs]

v0.26.03 uses x264 r1183, v0.28.03 uses r1206.

I was wondering if the command syntax is the same, at least for the "LASTCMD.TXT" commands BD-RB submits or where can one reference the x264 command syntax for each build? I don't see it listed on wiki or videolan's web site.

I want to see if I'm able to replace x264's exe for testing from v0.26.03 to v0.28.03. You won't be able to use the older version because the newer command line (from BD-RB) needs PRESETs, and the older version has command options that are no longer supported in the newer versions.

[leChameleon]

BD-RB v0.28.03

WINDOWS 7 ENTERPRISE 64-bit
INTEL i7 940 @ 2.93GHz
CORSAIR 12 GB Triple Channel DDR3 RAM
EVGA X58 SLI Motherboard (not the Classified model)
===================================================
[12:09:36] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: VALKYRIE
- Input BD size: 39.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:24:24.653]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[12:09:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:09:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [12:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 10)
- [12:15:00] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 173,130 frames
- Bitrate: 8,519 Kbs
- [12:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:37:31] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:42:26] Video Encode complete
- [17:42:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:42:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:47:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00172]
- [17:47:18] Reencoding: VID_00172 (2 of 10)
- [17:47:18] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 16,429 frames
- Bitrate: 6,451 Kbs
- [17:47:18] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[17:47:29] - Failed video encode, aborted

"D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS" --preset slow --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --bitrate 6451 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL

x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 4.1
x264 [error]: x264_encoder_encode failed26 kb/s, eta 0:07:10

Questions:
1. Is it normal that BD-RB would write "--output NUL" in the command string?
2. BD-RB successfully completed "00074.m2ts" just before outputting this command. What might cause VID_00072 to fail? Both are MPEG-4 (AVC) files.

"D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe"
"K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00074.AVS"
--preset slow
--ref 4
--b-adapt 1
--bitrate 8519
--level 4.1
--sar 1:1
--fps 24000/1001
--aud
--vbv-bufsize 25000
--keyint 24
--min-keyint 1
--ipratio 1.1
--pbratio 1.1
--vbv-maxrate 35000
--threads auto
--thread-input
--stats "K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00074.AVS.MKV.stats"
--pass 2
--output "K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00074.AVS.MKV"

This created "00074.m2ts" at 12.93 GB under WORKFILES.

NOTE: VID_00174 is 1080p while VID_00172 us a 1080i.

I've tested the LASTCMD.txt with VC-1=diabled and VC-1=wmv9, both yield the same result.

[leChameleon]

Is there any way to capture all of BD-RB's commands it's submitting to x264?

[focuspuller]

Whenever you see this error, immediately copy the command line from LASTCMD.TXT in the BD-RB directory and paste it into a command window. Then you will be able to see what error X264 is running into.

If you've recently upgraded to Win7 -- search the thread.

Ok. Is this what You mean? :

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
CRF_ENCODING=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\12_MONKEYS\12_MONKEYS_G51_GLO\
WORKING_PATH=E:\WORK\

I have always used windows 7 while using this program and I have not once failed to shrink a single disc, until now. Any ideas?

In either case I love the program and use it a lot. I can't say that enough.

[jdobbs]

BD-RB v0.28.03

WINDOWS 7 ENTERPRISE 64-bit
INTEL i7 940 @ 2.93GHz
CORSAIR 12 GB Triple Channel DDR3 RAM
EVGA X58 SLI Motherboard (not the Classified model)
===================================================
[12:09:36] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: VALKYRIE
- Input BD size: 39.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:24:24.653]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[12:09:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:09:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [12:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 10)
- [12:15:00] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 173,130 frames
- Bitrate: 8,519 Kbs
- [12:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:37:31] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:42:26] Video Encode complete
- [17:42:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:42:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:47:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00172]
- [17:47:18] Reencoding: VID_00172 (2 of 10)
- [17:47:18] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps, 16,429 frames
- Bitrate: 6,451 Kbs
- [17:47:18] Reencoding: VID_00172, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[17:47:29] - Failed video encode, aborted

"D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS" --preset slow --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --bitrate 6451 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL

x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 4.1
x264 [error]: x264_encoder_encode failed26 kb/s, eta 0:07:10

Questions:
1. Is it normal that BD-RB would write "--output NUL" in the command string?
2. BD-RB successfully completed "00074.m2ts" just before outputting this command. What might cause VID_00072 to fail? Both are MPEG-4 (AVC) files.

"D:\Downloads\BD-RB\BD-RBV02803\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe"
"K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00074.AVS"
--preset slow
--ref 4
--b-adapt 1
--bitrate 8519
--level 4.1
--sar 1:1
--fps 24000/1001
--aud
--vbv-bufsize 25000
--keyint 24
--min-keyint 1
--ipratio 1.1
--pbratio 1.1
--vbv-maxrate 35000
--threads auto
--thread-input
--stats "K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00074.AVS.MKV.stats"
--pass 2
--output "K:\BD25 4\VALKYRIE (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00074.AVS.MKV"

This created "00074.m2ts" at 12.93 GB under WORKFILES.

NOTE: VID_00174 is 1080p while VID_00172 us a 1080i.

I've tested the LASTCMD.txt with VC-1=diabled and VC-1=wmv9, both yield the same result. I don't have a clue what point you're trying to make with this long post????

Yes it is normal for the output to be converted from "i" to "p" -- if you look at the AVS file you'll see the conversion.

Yes it is normal for the first pass to output to NUL -- it saves time, and all that is really need for pass two is the stats info.

Just as a test, try opening VID_00172.AVS with the media player and see what is displayed. It may be that the AVISYNTH filters aren't working correctly.

[jdobbs]

Ok. Is this what You mean? :

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
CRF_ENCODING=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\12_MONKEYS\12_MONKEYS_G51_GLO\
WORKING_PATH=E:\WORK\

I have always used windows 7 while using this program and I have not once failed to shrink a single disc, until now. Any ideas?

In either case I love the program and use it a lot. I can't say that enough. That's good info - but not what I was requesting. It's probably too late now, as I'm not sure what you have done since the error occurred.

[focuspuller]

That's good info - but not what I was requesting. It's probably too late now, as I'm not sure what you have done since the error occurred.

I have made no changes to the computer since I have been using BD Rebuilder, other then using upgrades. I even tried using a few older versions of the program, same result. To recap, I backed-up the disc using ANYDVD and then tried to shrink it. No sucess yet. My guess is that Haali Media Splitter is somehow related to the problem.

[ArcticFox]

Having problems shrinking Firefly, i did Lost Season 1 and didnt have any issues at all.

-----------------------
[07:54:13] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: RIPPEDBLURAY
- Input BD size: 43.77 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:11:04.023]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
[07:54:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:54:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Unexpected byte
[07:54:20] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

---

[Status]
LABEL=RIPPEDBLURAY
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=46993282576
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=46765621248
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.172489418866535
RESIZE_1080=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=100000

Has it corrupted when ripping?

[leChameleon]

I don't have a clue what point you're trying to make with this long post????

Yes it is normal for the output to be converted from "i" to "p" -- if you look at the AVS file you'll see the conversion.

Yes it is normal for the first pass to output to NUL -- it saves time, and all that is really need for pass two is the stats info.

Just as a test, try opening VID_00172.AVS with the media player and see what is displayed. It may be that the AVISYNTH filters aren't working correctly. 1. I'm trying to understand why only running 64-bit seems to fail. In doing so I'm noting the differences between BD-RB builds, the commands it's submitting to x264 and the differences in the the video content being processed.


2. K:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS is < 1kb in size and WMP12 does not recognize the file and is unable to play it.

Directory of K:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES

8/18/2009 05:47 PM 15,349,376 00172.track_4352.ac3
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 266 AUD_00172.meta
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 262 AUD_00172_4352.AVS
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 309 VID_00172.AVS
8/18/2009 06:33 PM 258,048 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.mbtree.temp
8/18/2009 06:33 PM 4,096 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.temp


3. The original video content VID_00074 is 1080p and BD-RB v0.28.03 processes just fine where VID_00172 is 1080i and fails. I was wondering if there was any special way the "interlaced" content is required to be processed using a 64-bit platform. Noted in my previous post I've tested setting both VC-1 (disabled and wmv9) but the results are the same. The same exact job running XP SP3 32-bit works perfectly with ffdshow's default settings.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6826/tmpe.jpg

[Furiousflea]

1. I'm trying to understand why only running 64-bit seems to fail. In doing so I'm noting the differences between BD-RB builds, the commands it's submitting to x264 and the differences in the the video content being processed.


2. K:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS is < 1kb in size and WMP12 does not recognize the file and is unable to play it.

Directory of K:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES

8/18/2009 05:47 PM 15,349,376 00172.track_4352.ac3
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 266 AUD_00172.meta
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 262 AUD_00172_4352.AVS
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 309 VID_00172.AVS
8/18/2009 06:33 PM 258,048 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.mbtree.temp
8/18/2009 06:33 PM 4,096 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.temp


3. The original video content VID_00074 is 1080p and BD-RB v0.28.03 processes just fine where VID_00172 is 1080i and fails. I was wondering if there was any special way the "interlaced" content is required to be processed using a 64-bit platform. Noted in my previous post I've tested setting both VC-1 (disabled and wmv9) but the results are the same. The same exact job running XP SP3 32-bit works perfectly with ffdshow's default settings.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6826/tmpe.jpg

64 bit version of Windows 7 shouldn't cause a problem. I use it with no problems at all.

Looks just like a codec issue to me. You do realise that getting ffdshow or any "seperate" codec to work where Windows 7 already has one is a pain in the backside?

Look back in my post history, about 4-8 posts ago I linked to a post containing a guide someone had made to get BDRB to use ffdshow codecs and TMT2 codec for VC1 (since this is one of the only ways to decode 1080i hybrid video)

There is no "free" software that can decode those hybrid interlaced VC1 material to my knowledge.

EDIT - Just seen that the VC1 decoding isn't the problem...but the first part of my post is relevent still as it will allow you to use ffdshow decorder as maybe Windows 7 decoder can't handle that interlaced stream.

[leChameleon]

64 bit version of Windows 7 shouldn't cause a problem. I use it with no problems at all.

Looks just like a codec issue to me. You do realise that getting ffdshow or any "seperate" codec to work where Windows 7 already has one is a pain in the backside?

Look back in my post history, about 4-8 posts ago I linked to a post containing a guide someone had made to get BDRB to use ffdshow codecs and TMT2 codec for VC1 (since this is one of the only ways to decode 1080i hybrid video)

There is no "free" software that can decode those hybrid interlaced VC1 material to my knowledge.

EDIT - Just seen that the VC1 decoding isn't the problem...but the first part of my post is relevent still as it will allow you to use ffdshow decorder as maybe Windows 7 decoder can't handle that interlaced stream.Thank you for confirming my suspicions...

To my recollection the TMT2 workaround supports 32-bit only, but I could be mistaken.

If BD-RB v0.27.01 or later fails on a Windows 64-bit architecture using Encode Settings: HIGHEST or HIGH QUALITY, the easy solution to:
A) Use BD-RB v0.26.03
B) Use BD-RB v0.28.03 or later on a 32-bit machine if one has access.

Note in general (not directed toward you):
I think it would be a good idea to start a Known Problems & Solutions document that is released with BD-RB noting potential issues and/or suggested solutions one my try as well as which OS and bit depth they are for. I find there is quite a bit of information captured in this forum but it would be nice to see it captured in one document. I know this might entail additional work for someone, or some volunteers but the benefit should out weigh the work then can easily be maintained going forward.

[leChameleon]

Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit ships with WMP12, I'm not yet been able to find out which decoder it uses. I'm unclear if one must install WMP9 or WMP11 when attempting to use ffdshow or it has its own codec for wmv9 contained within it's installation.

The odd part is that ffdshow "ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid.exe" referenced on page one of this forum hasn't changed. BD-RB v0.26.03 and prior releases complete successfully Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit. It's only the releases after that that fail. I'm unable to determine, since I'm unable to capture the commands BD-RB submits to 3rd party software, if the problem lies in a newer 3rd party software packaged with BD-RB or the new command syntax or extracted files on the BD-RB side that may cause the 3rd party software to fail for some reason. If there was a way to capture BD-RB's commands submitted to 3rd party software I could test this independently to definitively know where the problem is.

I wish there was a debug mode/option that would output and retain all information, this would be very useful.

[Furiousflea]

Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit ships with WMP12, I'm not yet been able to find out which decoder it uses. I'm unclear if one must install WMP9 or WMP11 when attempting to use ffdshow or it has its own codec for wmv9 contained within it's installation.

The odd part is that ffdshow "ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid.exe" referenced on page one of this forum hasn't changed. BD-RB v0.26.03 and prior releases complete successfully Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit. It's only the releases after that that fail. I'm unable to determine, since I'm unable to capture the commands BD-RB submits to 3rd party software, if the problem lies in a newer 3rd party software packaged with BD-RB or the new command syntax or extracted files on the BD-RB side that may cause the 3rd party software to fail for some reason. If there was a way to capture BD-RB's commands submitted to 3rd party software I could test this independently to definitively know where the problem is.

I wish there was a debug mode/option that would output and retain all information, this would be very useful.

Windows 7 x64 works just fine with the TMT2 decoding dll files that are needed for decoding via directshow as BDRB does. It's just the actual TMT2 player that doesn't work ;)

[Adbear]

Actually BD rebuilder already manages to convert VC-1 1080i as I've used it to convert all my Torchwood and Dr Who which uses field based 1080i VC-1, it just has a problem on Dual Xeoon i7 with hyperthreading turned on, works fine with hyper threading off or on a standard single i7 system

[Capsbackup]

I can also confirm BD-RBV02803 had no trouble with field based VC-1 interlaced files, as a full movie backup to BD-25 of the movie 300 worked perfectly. There were six **.m2ts files on this disc, all processed with no trouble on my I7 920, XP Pro, 32bit.

[chudm]

I can also confirm BD-RBV02803 had no trouble with field based VC-1 interlaced files, as a full movie backup to BD-25 of the movie 300 worked perfectly. There were six **.m2ts files on this disc, all processed with no trouble on my I7 920, XP Pro, 32bit.

i had no problems doing 300 several weeks ago with previous betas

[saphire199]

Um, I just downloaded the newest beta, 28.0.3. I extracted it and went to run it and i get the message "this beta has expired". I made sure that I was running the correct exe version, in fact when I drag the message out of the way, it says 28.0.3. What could be causing this?

saphire199

sorry - I mean v0.28.03

[Capsbackup]

@saphire199;

The one on the first page doesn't expire for over a a month from now... and it's running right now on my system. I think you're mistaken. Are you sure you're pointing to that version?

If the file has been modified/hacked in any way it might also cause that message. I'd suggest you do a virus scan on your system and then download again.

His shortcut is probably aimed at an older version. I've done that several times. :)

Here's a couple suggestions, just a few pages back. :)

[saphire199]

@saphire199;





Here's a couple suggestions, just a few pages back. :)

Thanks, I am doing a full scan but I do not believe this is the case - I had JUST downloaded it, extracted it and used it. And I did not create a shortcut, I am trying to open the exe file by double clicking on it and it definitely says v0.28.03.

saphire199

[saphire199]

ok, this is solved - and anyone that has problems with this, you need to check your system dates. I found out my girlfriend was checking out future dates on calendar and had hit apply - effectively making the date 2 months into the future. I didn't even think to check that, but that's what it was. Category 5 had the same issue. Sorry this even came up.

saphire199

[jdobbs]

Um, I just downloaded the newest beta, 28.0.3. I extracted it and went to run it and i get the message "this beta has expired". I made sure that I was running the correct exe version, in fact when I drag the message out of the way, it says 28.0.3. What could be causing this?

saphire199

sorry - I mean v0.28.03 The only thing that can cause it is for the date on your system to be wrong -- or if the EXE has been changed in any way.

[Edit] Whoops. I see you'd already corrected it a few posts down.

[focuspuller]

So I tried something different and started again. I reripped the Disc (again using ANYDVD) but this time I upgraded my computer to the official release version of Windows 7. It still didn't work, but the results were different. This is what I got:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
CRF_ENCODING=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\12_MONKEYS\12_MONKEYS_G51_GLO\
WORKING_PATH=E:\WORK\
-----------------------
[18:35:14] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: 12_MONKEYS_G51_GLO
- Input BD size: 39.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:09.816]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[18:35:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:35:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [18:52:02] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 2)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00009.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[18:52:03] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------

I've never gotten this error before. Could you tell me what it means?

[leChameleon]

So after installing Acrsoft TotalMedia Theater 2 and updating it to v2.1.6.130 how does one set it as the decoder for BD-RB?

I've attempted to follow the other instructions posted but Arcsoft is not listed under 64-bit using Win7DSFilterTweaker v1.4. Some of the other links are dead.

I don't see anything in BD-RB's *.ini file either.

[focuspuller]

Now I can't get any copy to work! With every project I get this:

- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851

Please help!

[focuspuller]

I just read that you're not supporting Windows 7. While I am disappointed, I have been grateful how bieng able to use the program this long. Windows 7 aside, Is there anyway to get around this particular error?

Thank you very much for your time.

[jdobbs]

I'll have to support it eventually... but not until it is officially released and all the bugs/incompatibilities are worked out. There's a price to pay for jumping on a bandwagon too soon.

[focuspuller]

I'll have to support it eventually... but not until it is officially released and all the bugs/incompatibilities are worked out. There's a price to pay for jumping on a bandwagon too soon.

Well, as I've said I've enjoyed using the program so far and I look forward to when you do support it. Thank you for your obviously hard work.

Is there anyway around this?

"- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851"

Perhaps it's not a Windows 7 problem. Any ideas?

[HWK]

Well, as I've said I've enjoyed using the program so far and I look forward to when you do support it. Thank you for your obviously hard work.

Is there anyway around this?

"- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851"

Perhaps it's not a Windows 7 problem. Any ideas?

No, It is not problem of windows 7 it also happen in windows vista. Also i use Win 7 without any problems for about a week.

[focuspuller]

No, It is not problem of windows 7 it also happen in windows vista. Also i use Win 7 without any problems for about a week.

Great, so you're saying even if i reinstall Vista I'm going to have this problem?

Have you found a solution? And is there any way to address or solve it as it's not a Windows 7 problem?

[leChameleon]

Do you support Windows 2008 Server 64-bit? It's officially released.

[HWK]

Great, so you're saying even if i reinstall Vista I'm going to have this problem?

I can’t speak for you but when I was using vista I ran into problem. However restarting encoding from beginning fixes it. (Just make sure to delete any working dir and and temp files) This may not always work!!!. Just one of those hiccups which happen during encoding especially since BDRB is BETA. But no need to reinstall vista again.

I will try with Windows Xp Media Center Edition and see if it does the same thing.

[jdobbs]

No, It is not problem of windows 7 it also happen in windows vista. Also i use Win 7 without any problems for about a week. This isn't aimed specifically at your response, but more generally to all Windows 7 users.

I can tell you that in 90% of the cases where you are running into an issue and you are using Windows 7 -- Windows 7 is the cause and it will work correctly in Vista or Xp.

You may fall into that other 10%, I don't know, but (as the huge number of Win7 issues posted across the Internet will confirm) -- Windows 7 is NOT READY FOR PRIME-TIME. If it were, people wouldn't have to make registry changes to make legacy software run!!!

That is very clearly why I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT until it is fixed. If you're convinced you know more than me -- fine, use Windows 7 to your heart's content and be happy. Just don't try to hand your headaches over to me. I will not attempt (at least not yet) to fix Microsoft's bugs or incompatibilities.

The exact same set of issues happened when NT, 95/98, XP, and Vista was released. Microsoft along with 3rd party vendors will clean it up -- but they haven't yet. "Hopeful thinking" and wishing it weren't true certainly isn't going to help. You can't just make the assumption that "Microsoft has changed -- and it will be different this time".

I probably do more discs in testing that any 10 other typical people -- and I just cruise from disc-to-disc and almost never hit an error. If I do, I fix it. If someone reports one, I will buy that disc and try it. If I hit the error, I will fix it (and have done so on plenty -- this is beta software after all). But I can't fix things that are caused by experimental setups... and others should have the common sense not to ask me to.

I guess it could be I'm just lucky -- but I don't believe in "luck". I believe we make our own luck. I can tell you very assuredly that jumping onto a Microsoft O/S as soon as they throw it onto the Internet is a good way to make your own bad luck.

I don't want to see any more "it's not Windows 7" posts. Run it on Vista or XP, and when you get the error we can talk... otherwise, figure it out yourself.

[jdobbs]

Do you support Windows 2008 Server 64-bit? It's officially released.No, and probably never will. Server operating systems are optimized for running a server. BD-RB is not a server.

[Furiousflea]

So after installing Acrsoft TotalMedia Theater 2 and updating it to v2.1.6.130 how does one set it as the decoder for BD-RB?

I've attempted to follow the other instructions posted but Arcsoft is not listed under 64-bit using Win7DSFilterTweaker v1.4. Some of the other links are dead.

I don't see anything in BD-RB's *.ini file either.

1. Download "graphstudio" after doing the registry tweak (basically just deleting that "preferred subtree").

2. Install "VC1 Tweaker (Haali)" 64bit version.

3. Graphstudio->insert filter->VC1 Tweaker (haali)->Click "Change Merrit"->Change to "Preferred +2"

4. Disable VC1 decoding in ffdshow.

Sorted...providing you have TMT2 installed.

[Furiousflea]

Great, so you're saying even if i reinstall Vista I'm going to have this problem?

Have you found a solution? And is there any way to address or solve it as it's not a Windows 7 problem?

Same goes to you ^

[travhavlicek]

I did a full disc backup with 'Children of Men'. As soon as you select play from the DVD menu, it crashes PowerDVD 9. This is the first disc I've had a problem with. Here's the log:

[Status]
LABEL=CHILDREN_OF_MEN_G51
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=34288519429
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33367486464
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.695174179812024
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=9
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00009]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=21233536113
RATE=19726
NSIZE=20204052480
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00057]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=149558594
RATE=3704
NSIZE=70373376
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00080]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=83706001
RATE=5225
NSIZE=80756736
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00122]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=827095415
RATE=3290
NSIZE=808458240
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00123]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=173156699
RATE=3308
NSIZE=166281216
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00124]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=231718439
RATE=3290
NSIZE=228722688
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00125]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=142835804
RATE=3283
NSIZE=141496320
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00126]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=263277967
RATE=3278
NSIZE=252573696
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00127]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=91330004
RATE=3350
NSIZE=87754752
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

@Furiousflea

I was able to repeat the error on the Region A version of Pinnochio. I'm looking into it.

[jdobbs]

I did a full disc backup with 'Children of Men'. As soon as you select play from the DVD menu, it crashes PowerDVD 9. This is the first disc I've had a problem with.Have you tried it on a standalone player? If PowerDVD "crashes" on anything, it means there is an issue in PowerDVD. If it simply says "I can't play this" or "your disc sucks" and exits gracefully -- it may be a different story.

[chudm]

I did a full disc backup with 'Children of Men'. As soon as you select play from the DVD menu, it crashes PowerDVD 9. This is the first disc I've had a problem with.

try it with totalmedia theatre 3, if it works there then you know its a powerdvd problem

[setarip_old]

@travhavlicek

Hi!

Exactly what happens that you're describing as Power DVD "crashing"?

[HWK]

This isn't aimed specifically at your response, but more generally to all Windows 7 users.

That is understandable.

I can tell you that in 90% of the cases where you are running into an issue and you are using Windows 7 -- Windows 7 is the cause and it will work correctly in Vista or Xp.

No, I just started using windows 7 a week ago. Prior to it I was using Win Vista Sp2 and Win 7 as a dual boot and had some problems. I probably fall towards codec issue when something happen like this.

You may fall into that other 10%, I don't know, but (as the huge number of Win7 issues posted across the Internet will confirm) -- Windows 7 is NOT READY FOR PRIME-TIME. If it were, people wouldn't have to make registry changes to make legacy software run!!!

Again, Agree

That is very clearly why I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT until it is fixed. If you're convinced you know more than me -- fine, use Windows 7 to your heart's content and be happy. Just don't try to hand your headaches over to me. I will not attempt (at least not yet) to fix Microsoft's bugs or incompatibilities.

No Problem, As a beta tester I know the importance of being on same boat when testing software.


The exact same set of issues happened when NT, 95/98, XP, and Vista was released. Microsoft along with 3rd party vendors will clean it up -- but they haven't yet. "Hopeful thinking" and wishing it weren't true certainly isn't going to help. You can't just make the assumption that "Microsoft has changed -- and it will be different this time".

I agree with you, Microsoft think that “3rd party vendors will clean it up”

Just to sum it up I had problem in vista Sp2 as well. It is mention few post back. Also whenever I give bugs report I run it on Vista and Xp before talking about in forum. Any posts which belong to me and I mention BDRB bugs in it was under Win Vista or/ And Win XP. No Win 7 as it is beta.

[PurpleMan]

Well, I've found a bug!!

Trying to do Batman Begins, and it looks like BD-Rebuilder (0.28.03) is mixing the secondary video with the primary one.

It says it's encoding the secondary, using the secondary bitrate, but actually encoding the primary. here is the INF:

[Status]
LABEL=BATMAN_BEGINS
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=40040045985
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=36168726528
TARGET_SIZE=25165824000
REDUCTION=.588754611708954
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
[00000]
AUDIO=0100001
PGS=11111111111111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=14224421144
RATE=8190


As you can see in the images, the secondary video is 480p while the primary is 1080p, yet when BD-RB claims to encode the secondary (with a low 8mbit rate) it actually encodes the 1080p primary (I've also verified using the lastcmd.txt that the AVS it encodes is indeed of the primary, not secondary).

Hope this is helpful!

[focuspuller]

This isn't aimed specifically at your response, but more generally to all Windows 7 users.

I can tell you that in 90% of the cases where you are running into an issue and you are using Windows 7 -- Windows 7 is the cause and it will work correctly in Vista or Xp.

You may fall into that other 10%, I don't know, but (as the huge number of Win7 issues posted across the Internet will confirm) -- Windows 7 is NOT READY FOR PRIME-TIME. If it were, people wouldn't have to make registry changes to make legacy software run!!!

That is very clearly why I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT until it is fixed. If you're convinced you know more than me -- fine, use Windows 7 to your heart's content and be happy. Just don't try to hand your headaches over to me. I will not attempt (at least not yet) to fix Microsoft's bugs or incompatibilities.

The exact same set of issues happened when NT, 95/98, XP, and Vista was released. Microsoft along with 3rd party vendors will clean it up -- but they haven't yet. "Hopeful thinking" and wishing it weren't true certainly isn't going to help. You can't just make the assumption that "Microsoft has changed -- and it will be different this time".

I probably do more discs in testing that any 10 other typical people -- and I just cruise from disc-to-disc and almost never hit an error. If I do, I fix it. If someone reports one, I will buy that disc and try it. If I hit the error, I will fix it (and have done so on plenty -- this is beta software after all). But I can't fix things that are caused by experimental setups... and others should have the common sense not to ask me to.

I guess it could be I'm just lucky -- but I don't believe in "luck". I believe we make our own luck. I can tell you very assuredly that jumping onto a Microsoft O/S as soon as they throw it onto the Internet is a good way to make your own bad luck.

I don't want to see any more "it's not Windows 7" posts. Run it on Vista or XP, and when you get the error we can talk... otherwise, figure it out yourself.


Firstly, as far as the problem I had, I was able to solve it. I simply reinstalled avisynth and everything is working again.

Related to the attempt to copy 12 Monkeys, still no go. And I tried it on a different computer, with Vista. So for the record "it's not windows 7". If I turn it into an ISO it works but there is something about this disc that simply won't work.

Now, I don't know if your post is directed toward me, but as far as your post goes, I can understand where you're coming from. You have stated that you don't support 7, but I wasn't aware of that until now.

And now I'm getting the same error on Vista.

Either way, other then this one disc, I have no problem. I enjoy using this program, and will continue to do so. I'm also very grateful for your hard work and support.

[focuspuller]

Same goes to you ^

Thanks for your help.

[Sharc]

Full backup / 1-pass / Quick Extras disabled:
crf prediction loops at crf=24.0 for one of the Extras.

Secondly: Any possibility to change the preset (eg as an hidden option) when "Quick for Extras" is enabled? Now BD-RB uses ultrafast at crf 28, can I change to a slower preset, like fast or medium?
(I enabled Quick for Extras to prevent the crf prediction looping issue ...)

[PurpleMan]

Well, I've found a bug!!

Trying to do Batman Begins, and it looks like BD-Rebuilder (0.28.03) is mixing the secondary video with the primary one.

It says it's encoding the secondary, using the secondary bitrate, but actually encoding the primary. here is the INF:

[Status]
LABEL=BATMAN_BEGINS
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=40040045985
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=36168726528
TARGET_SIZE=25165824000
REDUCTION=.588754611708954
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
[00000]
AUDIO=0100001
PGS=11111111111111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=14224421144
RATE=8190


As you can see in the images, the secondary video is 480p while the primary is 1080p, yet when BD-RB claims to encode the secondary (with a low 8mbit rate) it actually encodes the 1080p primary (I've also verified using the lastcmd.txt that the AVS it encodes is indeed of the primary, not secondary).

Hope this is helpful!


Forgot to mention, this is the INI file:

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24000
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=200
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\BATMAN_BEGINS\
WORKING_PATH=C:\1\

[jdobbs]

@Furiousflea

I was able to repeat the error on the Region A version of Pinnochio. I'm looking into it. I'm still looking at this -- but 00002.MPLS very definitely violates the BD standard. The offset to the data block (ext_data_start_address) in the first ExtensionData() entry is required by the specification to be on a dword boundary -- and it isn't. In fact the data_block_start_address itself must also start on a dword boundary and doesn't. I'll have to see if there is a way to correct it -- but the error is very definitely on the disc, not in BD Rebuilder.

[jdobbs]

Well, I've found a bug!!

Trying to do Batman Begins, and it looks like BD-Rebuilder (0.28.03) is mixing the secondary video with the primary one.

It says it's encoding the secondary, using the secondary bitrate, but actually encoding the primary. here is the INF:

[Status]
LABEL=BATMAN_BEGINS
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=40040045985
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=36168726528
TARGET_SIZE=25165824000
REDUCTION=.588754611708954
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
[00000]
AUDIO=0100001
PGS=11111111111111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=14224421144
RATE=8190


As you can see in the images, the secondary video is 480p while the primary is 1080p, yet when BD-RB claims to encode the secondary (with a low 8mbit rate) it actually encodes the 1080p primary (I've also verified using the lastcmd.txt that the AVS it encodes is indeed of the primary, not secondary).

Hope this is helpful!I'll look, but I think it's probably just reporting it wrong. In the BD-RB tables the secondary is a subelement of the primary. I think the attributes are being reported from the primary. But stranger things have happened.

The secondary is encoded immediately before the primary, so it's probable that by the time you look at LASTCMD.TXT you're seeing the command for the primary. Can you playback the output of the secondary encode and see if it is 480p?

[PurpleMan]

No, it's definitely doing it wrong.

I checked the lastcmd.txt, it is in fact encoding the PRIMARY video using the bitrate that's supposed to be for the secondary (8mbit).

and it's the first thing that's being encoded. so if you say the 2nd track should've been done BEFORE the the primary one, then it confirms that there is indeed a problem, because the primary one is the first one being encoded (with wrong bitrate).


Edit: actually, hold on that report. I wanna test again to make sure I'm not misleading you. I'll report back.

[Furiousflea]

No, it's definitely doing it wrong.

I checked the lastcmd.txt, it is in fact encoding the PRIMARY video using the bitrate that's supposed to be for the secondary (8mbit).

and it's the first thing that's being encoded. so if you say the 2nd track should've been done BEFORE the the primary one, then it confirms that there is indeed a problem, because the primary one is the first one being encoded (with wrong bitrate).


Edit: actually, hold on that report. I wanna test again to make sure I'm not misleading you. I'll report back.

I'm pretty sure your getting it mixed up, as jdobbs has said it doesn't distinguish between the video tracks in the m2ts, so it looks like it's only encoding one track. I have done batman begins with the version prior to 0.28.03 so if there does turn out to be a problem jdobbs use that for reference.

[Furiousflea]

I'm still looking at this -- but 00002.MPLS very definitely violates the BD standard. The offset to the data block (ext_data_start_address) in the first ExtensionData() entry is required by the specification to be on a dword boundary -- and it isn't. In fact the data_block_start_address itself must also start on a dword boundary and doesn't. I'll have to see if there is a way to correct it -- but the error is very definitely on the disc, not in BD Rebuilder.

Interesting...I'm quite sure I distinctly remember doing a full backup a couple of months ago without the PiP function and didn't receive the error at rebuild. Maybe need to relax some setting for this disc alone...on other hand maybe that's abit messy. Anyways, cheers for looking into it. :)

[Capsbackup]

@PurpleMan;
I'm not sure if this can help, but I also recently did a full movie backup to BD-25 of this movie with BD-RBV02803, and though I have deleted my files, my finished 00000.m2ts file was 14.5 GB. I kept the Dolby True HD and one 640kbps AC3 audio track as well as the DD Plus secondary audio. I seem to remember BD-RB had a bitrate set to approx. 9800kbps for the 1080P file.
BD-RB settings were:
High Quality(Default); Custom Target Size(23450 MB); Keep HD Audio.
All two-pass (Quicker Encode for Extras was NOT selected).
Total BD size finished 22.5 GB.
I am curious, if you burn your backup to BD-R/RE media and play it back on a standalone, does the movie have the audio in sync?
Mine was off by 250ms, very noticeable and not enjoyable to watch. It took some adjusting to finally get the audio in sync, but the backup looks great!

[leChameleon]

...
2. Install "VC1 Tweaker (Haali)" 64bit version.
...As there seem to be many versions of this posted can you point me to the correct one? I've tried a few but either they do not install properly either error or are not listed in GraphStudio.

[jdobbs]

No, it's definitely doing it wrong.

I checked the lastcmd.txt, it is in fact encoding the PRIMARY video using the bitrate that's supposed to be for the secondary (8mbit).

and it's the first thing that's being encoded. so if you say the 2nd track should've been done BEFORE the the primary one, then it confirms that there is indeed a problem, because the primary one is the first one being encoded (with wrong bitrate).


Edit: actually, hold on that report. I wanna test again to make sure I'm not misleading you. I'll report back.I believe you are mistaken. I just looked at it. The attributes of the secondary tracks are not even displayed. You are looking at the command for the primary track.

The only way to tell is to do what I asked -- look at the actual video that was encoded for the secondary track. I've just finished testing several -- and it is being done correctly.

[jdobbs]

Interesting...I'm quite sure I distinctly remember doing a full backup a couple of months ago without the PiP function and didn't receive the error at rebuild. Maybe need to relax some setting for this disc alone...on other hand maybe that's abit messy. Anyways, cheers for looking into it. :) I'm glad I took the time to check this one out. I found what was caused it. Even though the table was very definitely authored incorrectly by the BD standard -- that wasn't what was causing the error. I was incrementing an index incorrectly. On most sources it wouldn't matter because there is only one entry in that table -- but in Pinnochio it had a couple hundred.

You wouldn't have gotten the error on one of the old versions because this was fairly new code. Of course on the older versions the PiP wouldn't have worked... :)

Good catch. Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I've just updated the links in the first post of this thread to a new version of BD Rebuilder (0.28.04). Changes in this release:- Changed the default behavior for handling
PiP/secondary audio/video. PROCESS_SECONDARY
now defaults to "1" (true) and full backups will
include secondary audio/video.
- Fixed an error related to PiP and extension data
tables in which some timestamp entries may not have
been updated.
- Fixed possible "CorrectMPLS()00006 2408" that may
occur during rebuild.
- Added a specialized hidden setting that is meant
for special circumstances. "HDDVD_COMPLIANT=1" in
the "[Options]" area of the INI will force certain
parameters to be used and will limit bitrate to
that legal for HD-DVD playback. Note: This does
NOT mean you can playback your output on an HD-DVD
player. It only means the stream will be encoded
in a way that is compliant for certain post BD-RB
software packages to use it in creating HD-DVDs.
If selecting this option with BD-25, it is likely
you will undersize due to bitrate constraints.
- Added code to better select the movie-only MPLS.
Now when there are two large MPLSs within 10% of
each other, the default is the 2nd largest (which
is generally the non-extended or non-commentary
version). You should still check the "Alternate
Movie-Only Playlist" just to be sure.
- Corrected an error in the CRF prediction routine.
- Updated X264.EXE to the most recent version (r1222)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs"HDDVD_COMPIANT=1"

THANK YOU ;>}

[deank]

Will "compLiant" also work? :-P

[GaPony]

That's a different update.. :)

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

THANK YOU ;>} Hmmm.... maybe that's why I write so little documentation. It's "HDDVD_COMPLIANT". You don't know how many times I've misspelled it "COMPLAINT"... :)

[Chiamos]

Hmmm.... maybe that's why I write so little documentation. It's "HDDVD_COMPLIANT". You don't know how many times I've misspelled it "COMPLAINT"... :)
Now see what some people have done to some of your train of thought. :rolleyes:

[Capsbackup]

Vocabulary... very overrated!! Thats why I just say " do what I think, not what I say". :cool:
Well, I think we know what you meant anyway. :) Thanks for the new update.
:thanks:

[jdobbs]

Firstly, as far as the problem I had, I was able to solve it. I simply reinstalled avisynth and everything is working again.

Related to the attempt to copy 12 Monkeys, still no go. And I tried it on a different computer, with Vista. So for the record "it's not windows 7". If I turn it into an ISO it works but there is something about this disc that simply won't work.

Now, I don't know if your post is directed toward me, but as far as your post goes, I can understand where you're coming from. You have stated that you don't support 7, but I wasn't aware of that until now.

And now I'm getting the same error on Vista.

Either way, other then this one disc, I have no problem. I enjoy using this program, and will continue to do so. I'm also very grateful for your hard work and support.So grateful that you rated it a "1" for value for the money (I guess free isn't cheap enough) and "1" for functionality on VIDEOHELP.COM? I guess the fact that it is the ONLY program existing that does full backups of BDs to BD-25 today while still in beta doesn't get any points for functionality.

I don't think I'd hold my breath the next time you ask me for support of your "beta testing"...

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs You don't know how many times I've misspelled it "COMPLAINT"That's on a par with all of the Christmas stories that take place in a "manager" ;>}.

The important thing is that we all "new whut jew railee ment" - and thank you for your efforts...

[MikeyBK]

So grateful that you rated it a "1" for value for the money (I guess free isn't cheap enough) and "1" for functionality on VIDEOHELP.COM? I guess the fact that it is the ONLY program existing that does full backups of BDs to BD-25 today while still in beta doesn't get any points for functionality.

I don't think I'd hold my breath the next time you ask me for support of your "beta testing"...

Don't mind the naysayers JD... you and your great software is most appreciated by the overwhelming majority. I know that I am extremely grateful to you for BD-RB.... and I know that I speak for just about everyone else here...

So much thanks Bro.... and BTW, I've nolt had any bugs to report, thus why I haven't posted too much lately on this thread.... all my back-ups are movie only BD-9s...

And lastly, focuspuller made a gramatical error... he meant to add those two 1's together..... '11' is what he should've rated it since I don't see anyone else stepping up to offer such a great software as you have to all for free, hope he donated atleast 'something' for your efforts...

[Furiousflea]

As there seem to be many versions of this posted can you point me to the correct one? I've tried a few but either they do not install properly either error or are not listed in GraphStudio.

Not sure dude, I downloaded a "pack" off rapidshare linked somewhere on this part of the forum. Only 1 of the versions of "VC1 Tweaker" in that pack worked. The rest either just hung on the encoding stage with no error, or gave a "memory access violation" error dialogue box.

In the pack there were 32\64 bit versions for each one with a batch file included you just double click to install as well as an uninstaller for each one too...

do a search typing "tweaker" or somethin and have a rummage in the threads ;)

[focuspuller]

So grateful that you rated it a "1" for value for the money (I guess free isn't cheap enough) and "1" for functionality on VIDEOHELP.COM? I guess the fact that it is the ONLY program existing that does full backups of BDs to BD-25 today while still in beta doesn't get any points for functionality.

I don't think I'd hold my breath the next time you ask me for support of your "beta testing"...

Yes I am, and yes I did. And it's not free if you pay for it.

If you're going to bring it up then you should explain further. I rated 6 of 10 for Ease Of Use, 1 of 10 for Functionality (based on the fact that the program stopped working completely on all projects), 1 of 10 for Value For Money (for the same reason), and 4 of 10 for Overall Score. I wrote the following review:

"While it's a wonderful program, it has one major flaw. It does not support Windows 7. This will be a huge problem going forward and may not change any time soon given the comments of it's creator."

The fact stated is that you don't support Windows 7, you don't, as you have said yourself. You have also stated that "90% of the cases where you are running into an issue and you are using Windows 7, Windows 7 is the cause".

The rest is opinion, but clearly one that matters to you since you choose to address it.

Let me be clear. My comments were made (both here and videohelp.com) as a Windows 7 user, and is directed to such users. When I wrote those number ratings I based them on the fact that BD rebuilder stopped working. This fact has changed, and as things stand now, everything works with the exception of one disc. To be fair, I number scored the way I did mostly out of frustration and the assuption that BD Rebuilder wouldn't work again on Windows 7 based on your statements. If I wrote that review now, the number score would be higher, but the statement would be the same.

You say that you don't support Windows 7, and that problems related to using BD Rebuilder ("90%") are Windows 7's fault, therefore the two should not be expected to work together.

But when a user states essentially the same thing and criticizes your program, you get on the defensive. You can't have it both ways.

Your adversarial comments aside, I like this program very much. I like what it does, how it does it, and I applaud your hard work. It was not my intention to make you feel defensive. But I will not shy from saying that something doesn't work, when it doesn't (which I thought was the point of this thread, and hopefully helpful to you). I will also not apologize for being part of a growing number of users to an operating system that comes out about a month or two from now, and, in all likelihood will be the largest group of Blu-ray users/copiers.

You may have the only BD shrink program out there. But how long will that last? And how will your strategy change when the time comes?

As for "holding my breath" for help, why? Because you've been so warn, fuzzy, and helpful so far? Don't worry, I'm sure that after dropping you a donation (which I have done) that I will receive the same excellent treatment.

In closing, despite the statements I have made regarding this program's issues (which is the point of this thread) I am a fan of this program and the work that goes into it. I am one of the people you make this program for. So pick another battle because there is no battle here.

p.s. If you need details regarding my donation let me know.

[jdobbs]

It does work with Windows 7, as others have already said. Unfortunately I can't come and hand-hold everyone who wishes to use it. You just have to bypass Microsofts screw-ups.

If you want to use the software -- feel free, that's why I wrote it. But I don't owe you or anyone else anything and the fact that you are willing to eat free pie and then bitch about it simply pisses me off -- and quite frankly, it has me thinking that I should put this project on permanent hold. If you were in my shoes, you'd be defensive too.

I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH LIFE THINKING SOMEHOW THE WORLD OWES THEM. I don't like rude behavior in a person and I won't tolerate it. When I do something for someone, I don't expect or care whether I get thanks -- but accepting bitching is beyond what I can stand.

I suggest you send your verbose comments and your donation to one of those non-existent other packages you're talking about when they come out in 2-3 years. Send me an e-mail so I know it's you and I'll happily refund it.

I have a real job in addition to this, and I spend lots of hours (my free time) just to make software for others to use -- but I can prove very easily that doing so is completely my choice.

1 of 10 for Value For Money (for the same reason) So I guess you want me to send you money for using it? That's pretty much the only way I can think to make it cheaper...

I'm sure you think you're right in what you're saying... that's the sad pathetic part.

[Guest]

@focuspuller

As a disinterested mod, I instruct you to take further OT discussion in this vein to PM.

@all

Stay on topic: bug reports only!

[Capsbackup]

Well, I would like to respond to this with my 2 cents, but will refrain...:mad:

My first attempt to using the Batch option, I noticed that the subtitle selections, or deselections, are not kept after starting the Batch job. I normally only keep English subs on a movie only backup, but after starting the batch job, all subs were still present in the Workfiles folder.
I appreciate all your effort and time, and just want to say :thanks:

[jdobbs]

Well, I would like to respond to this with my 2 cents, but will refrain...:mad:

My first attempt to using the Batch option, I noticed that the subtitle selections, or deselections, are not kept after starting the Batch job. I normally only keep English subs on a movie only backup, but after starting the batch job, all subs were still present in the Workfiles folder.
I appreciate all your effort and time, and just want to say :thanks: Hmmm... I'm not sure how that could happen. I'll take a look at it. One thing to remember, though -- when you put the job in the queue all settings are put there with it, so any changes you make after that don't apply. You'd have to add it to the queue again.

When a batch job is started, all current settings are saved, then the batch jobs' settings are loaded as they execute. When you finish (or abort) a set of batch jobs, all the original (before batch) settings are restored.

[Capsbackup]

Hmmm... I'm not sure how that could happen. I'll take a look at it. One thing to remember, though -- when you put the job in the queue all settings are put there with it, so any changes you make after that don't apply. You'd have to add it to the queue again.

When a batch job is started, all current settings are saved, then the batch jobs' settings are loaded as they execute. When you finish (or abort) a set of batch jobs, all the original (before batch) settings are restored.

I have tried both Add Current Project to Batch Queue and Save Project, but both appear to not save the selected subtitles before choosing the Add/Save. Subtitles are just as they were, the default setting of BD-RB, as when I first open the project.

[GaPony]

Well, I would like to respond to this with my 2 cents, but will refrain...:mad:

My first attempt to using the Batch option, I noticed that the subtitle selections, or deselections, are not kept after starting the Batch job. I normally only keep English subs on a movie only backup, but after starting the batch job, all subs were still present in the Workfiles folder.
I appreciate all your effort and time, and just want to say :thanks:

I haven't noticed that... but I'll go back and take a look. I copy all my movies as Movie Only with English subs (though I've never actually used them). The way I understand that its supposed to work is that you set up each job with its own settings, the add them to the batch queue and it just executes one project after another. I did find that its important to assign each job its own WORKFILES folder.

On a side note: I think BD Rebuilder will take the PS3 community by storm once people figure out how easily you can get a Blu-Ray movie into a single .m2ts file and stream it effortlessly from the PC to the PS3 with PS3MediaServer. No real need for burning to a disc at all!

[FZander]

Hei
Ich have use BD Rebuilder for two Film to make a DB-25 copy. The first works fine, but the second (VC-1) has wrong aspect ration. The Target has no black stripes on top and button.

What is wrong?

[ChBrig]

Hi JDOBBS,

I am a user of BD Rebuider and have to say that it is very useful.
The last version I have used in June 2009 was 0.22.03 and no problem at all.
I got some new ripp in July 2009 and trying to open BD Rebuider, I got a message: version has expired. So I have downloaded the last one: 0.28.03 and problem (same with 0.28.02 and 0.26.03):
1) all codecs are ok
2) When I double click on the shorcut BD Rebuilder to open it, I get a window on my screen: WINDOWS INSTALLER with the following message --> the feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable. Click OK to try again or enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package "Fms.msi" in the box below. I never got that message in the past. If I double click several times "cancel" at the end BD Rebuilder is opening but when I use it on different rips I have a problem of multiplexing (see 3)
3) Error message:
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[21:51:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:51:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:25:56] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 2)
- [00:41:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [00:50:38] Reencoding: VID_00011 (2 of 2)
[02:22:16]PHASE ONE complete
[02:22:16]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:22:16] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Matroska parser: read error at pos 9831448576
[02:37:48] - Failed to REBUILD
4) I have tested 3 different ripps and always the same error and with version 0.28.03, 0.28.02 and 0.26.03
5) I have downloaded BD Rebuider (the 3 noted versions) on the laptop of my wife working with vista and no problem at all. And I don't get that window Windows installer on her laptop when I open BD Rebuilder.

So I think that the problem is coming from that message of Windows installer but I don't know what it means (I have windows XP Professional). And again in the past no problem and no window Windows installer opening. So I don't understand

Could you help me ?

Thank you

[ChBrig]

Hi again JDOBBS,

I have another question.
I can see on your new version, the new encoder setting "High-Speed Option (BD25)". What is it? I have tried it (movie only back up) and wrote a BD 25 but I have the feeling that I have lost in Quality (picture). I am using normally the option High Quality (Default) and movie-back up only and write on BD-25.

[FZander]

Hi again JDOBBS,

I have another question.
I can see on your new version, the new encoder setting "High-Speed Option (BD25)". What is it? I have tried it (movie only back up) and wrote a BD 25 but I have the feeling that I have lost in Quality (picture). I am using normally the option High Quality (Default) and movie-back up only and write on BD-25.

I use this option for two films and I can not see a different between the original disk on a 40" LCD, but the recoding from a Film with vc-1 codec has not the correct aspect ratio.

[Sharc]

Full backup / 1-pass / Quick Extras disabled:
crf prediction loops at crf=24.0 for one of the Extras.

Just to report back: v0.28.04 (beta) solved the looping issue.
1-pass full disc backup filled the BD9 to 96%. Very good.

[jdobbs]

Hi JDOBBS,

I am a user of BD Rebuider and have to say that it is very useful.
The last version I have used in June 2009 was 0.22.03 and no problem at all.
I got some new ripp in July 2009 and trying to open BD Rebuider, I got a message: version has expired. So I have downloaded the last one: 0.28.03 and problem (same with 0.28.02 and 0.26.03):
1) all codecs are ok
2) When I double click on the shorcut BD Rebuilder to open it, I get a window on my screen: WINDOWS INSTALLER with the following message --> the feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable. Click OK to try again or enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package "Fms.msi" in the box below. I never got that message in the past. If I double click several times "cancel" at the end BD Rebuilder is opening but when I use it on different rips I have a problem of multiplexing (see 3)
3) Error message:
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[21:51:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:51:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:25:56] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 2)
- [00:41:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [00:50:38] Reencoding: VID_00011 (2 of 2)
[02:22:16]PHASE ONE complete
[02:22:16]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:22:16] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Matroska parser: read error at pos 9831448576
[02:37:48] - Failed to REBUILD
4) I have tested 3 different ripps and always the same error and with version 0.28.03, 0.28.02 and 0.26.03
5) I have downloaded BD Rebuider (the 3 noted versions) on the laptop of my wife working with vista and no problem at all. And I don't get that window Windows installer on her laptop when I open BD Rebuilder.

So I think that the problem is coming from that message of Windows installer but I don't know what it means (I have windows XP Professional). And again in the past no problem and no window Windows installer opening. So I don't understand

Could you help me ?

Thank youThat means something else you installed has made one of the codecs (probably) a part of some other installation... That is more than likely also the problem with the aspect ratio. It's not an issue with BD Rebuilder, it is an issue with your PC configuration. I can assure you the WINDOWS INSTALLER call is NOT a part of BD-RB.

I would uninstall any "codec packs" you've downloaded. I would also reinstall FFDSHOW (to override any changes the other software has modified).

[jdobbs]

I have tried both Add Current Project to Batch Queue and Save Project, but both appear to not save the selected subtitles before choosing the Add/Save. Subtitles are just as they were, the default setting of BD-RB, as when I first open the project. Yep, the changes aren't being saved in the INI. I remember doing that now, because you can select differently for individual M2TS files-- and it could make the selection list gigantic (e.g. on discs with a 100 to 200 M2TS files). I just looked at a Star Trek disc I have and it has about 160 listed. Multiply that times 4 languages, and I'd have to somehow in the INI account for 1280 individual selections (audio/subs). That's a lot of 1's and 0's to put in the INI. I did it in DVD-RB, but there were typically a lot fewer choices.

One other thing I have to look at is selecting audio/subs by MPLS rather than M2TS. Right now someone who is unfamiliar with the structure could set different audio for individual parts of a playlist (individual M2TS files), so it could switch back and forth between languages as it plays.

Right now it goes back to what you have configured in SETUP when it loads them for batch processing.

I'll have to figure something out.

[Capsbackup]

Since subtitles usually take up very little space, this is not a problem, even for BD-5. It was just an observation I made from a first time test of this new feature. It would be a concern if this happened for audio selections though. :)

[ChBrig]

That means something else you installed has made one of the codecs (probably) a part of some other installation... That is more than likely also the problem with the aspect ratio. It's not an issue with BD Rebuilder, it is an issue with your PC configuration. I can assure you the WINDOWS INSTALLER call is NOT a part of BD-RB.

I would uninstall any "codec packs" you've downloaded. I would also reinstall FFDSHOW (to override any changes the other software has modified).


Ok I will investigate.
Thank you

What about ma question on High-Speed Option (BD25)? When do you use that option? No lower quality of picture?

[jdobbs]

Hei
Ich have use BD Rebuilder for two Film to make a DB-25 copy. The first works fine, but the second (VC-1) has wrong aspect ration. The Target has no black stripes on top and button.

What is wrong? See post #4752

[FZander]

See post #4752
OK, during the BD Rebuilder Installation I have new installed ffshow and all the other Parts from the description. If the Movie codec not VC-1 it works fine. Which codec I must uninstall and reinstall for VC-1

Thanks

[FZander]

Can I use a tools like Ifoedit, to only set a correct ratio for make a copy from my blu-ray with the wrong value.

[focuspuller]

I found a second disc that wasn't able to work.

[11:56:42] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: BSG_S4_AND_A_HALF_D1
- Input BD size: 43.74 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:56:21.605]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[11:56:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:56:43] Reencoding: VID_00050 (3 of 16)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.

I noticed that in cases where the encode failed, the file itself fails to play as a file, for example on Windows Media Player

[jdobbs]

OK, during the BD Rebuilder Installation I have new installed ffshow and all the other Parts from the description. If the Movie codec not VC-1 it works fine. Which codec I must uninstall and reinstall for VC-1

Thanks I would recommend you download Windows Media Player 11 and install it. Then go into FFDSHOW and disable VC-1 (that will tell it to use WMV11). That recommendation is also on the first (instruction) page of this thread.

If you're using Windows 7... you need to search the thread and find links to the registry patches that have to be done.

[jdobbs]

I found a second disc that wasn't able to work.

[11:56:42] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: BSG_S4_AND_A_HALF_D1
- Input BD size: 43.74 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:56:21.605]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[11:56:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:56:43] Reencoding: VID_00050 (3 of 16)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.

I noticed that in cases where the encode failed, the file itself fails to play as a file, for example on Windows Media PlayerWhat you need to check is whether the AVS plays (with WMP).

[FZander]

I would recommend you download Windows Media Player 11 and install it. Then go into FFDSHOW and disable VC-1 (that will tell it to use WMV11). That recommendation is also on the first (instruction) page of this thread.

I have Media Player 11 installed (during a update for my windows XP) and I have disable VC-1 in FFDSHOW like your instruction. Is there a configuration for Media Player 11?

[jdobbs]

I have Media Player 11 installed (during a update for my windows XP) and I have disable VC-1 in FFDSHOW like your instruction. Is there a configuration for Media Player 11? What O/S are you running? Also, have you installed any other codec packs? When encodes fail it is almost always related to CODEC misconfiguration (often by third party installers).

[jdobbs]

Just to report back: v0.28.04 (beta) solved the looping issue.
1-pass full disc backup filled the BD9 to 96%. Very good. Yeah, I had to go back and make a few changes there. Part of what I'd put in to lower the prediction passes with mb-tree had also caused the possibility of a forever loop.

[FZander]

What O/S are you running? Also, have you installed any other codec packs? When encodes fail it is almost always related to CODEC misconfiguration (often by third party installers).

I have Windows XP (with all SP an Patches). This is over six years old with many software. But I have a VM with XP (and all Patches) only OS and few tools. I must rebuild three BD iso with AVS movie to get free space. Than I can test a VC-1 Blu-ray Rip in the VM.

Another Question. If I rebuild a BD with AVS Movie source and target has AVS codec. But if I rebuild the VC-1 movie source is VC-1 but target is AVS , is this right?

[jdobbs]

I have Windows XP (with all SP an Patches). This is over six years old with many software. But I have a VM with XP (and all Patches) only OS and few tools. I must rebuild three BD iso with AVS movie to get free space. Than I can test a VC-1 Blu-ray Rip in the VM.

Another Question. If I rebuild a BD with AVS Movie source and target has AVS codec. But if I rebuild the VC-1 movie source is VC-1 but target is AVS , is this right?????? The AVS (via AVISYNTH) will frame server the VC-1 source to the encoder. AVS is not a CODEC. The AVS script generated by BD-RB will use directshow. DirectshowSource() will use the VC-1 CODEC that is configured by the system.

Are you talking about AVC? All output of BD-RB that has been reencoded is in AVC (H.264, MPEG-4, Part 10), that's the only thing X264 will output.

By the way, did you reinstall FFDSHOW and AVISYNTH? If not, do so. I also asked if you had installed codec packs and didn't get an answer... I can't help you if you don't answer my questions and don't do what I ask you to do.

[FZander]

????? The AVS (via AVISYNTH) will frame server the VC-1 source to the encoder. AVS is not a CODEC. The AVS script generated by BD-RB will use directshow. DirectshowSource() will use the VC-1 CODEC that is configured by the system.

Are you talking about AVC? All output of BD-RB that has been reencoded is in AVC (H.264, MPEG-4, Part 10), that's the only thing X264 will output.

By the way, did you reinstall FFDSHOW and AVISYNTH? If not, do so. I also asked if you had installed codec packs and didn't get an answer... I can't help you if you don't answer my questions and don't do what I ask you to do.
Oh big sorry, wrong letter, i mean AVC. The most movie from me have AVC and works fine. Also source AVC, target AVC works. It is right if source is VC-1, the target is also AVC?
I have all tools from your description in the newest version, without AVISYNTH (my version is 2.57) installed.
How can i show with codec are installed?

My latest installation was the newest FFDSHOW with AVISYNTH 2.57. and the other Tools from your description.

[jdobbs]

By the way, did you reinstall FFDSHOW and AVISYNTH?Oh big sorry, wrong letter, i mean AVC. The most movie from me have AVC and works fine. Also source AVC, target AVC works. It is right if source is VC-1, the target is also AVC?
I have all tools from your description in the newest version, without AVISYNTH (my version is 2.57) installed.
How can i show with codec are installed?

My latest installation was the newest FFDSHOW with AVISYNTH 2.57. and the other Tools from your description. Did you reinstall them again? Today? They can be corrupted by other codec installs....

[FZander]

Did you reinstall them again? Today? They can be corrupted by other codec installs....

Ist was my last software installation on this computer before 10 days, but after this i was in holyday to yesterday. And today i have only update your bd rebuilder from 28.03 to 28.04. The one good BD rebuild and the one with wrong aspect ratio, was with rebuilder 28.03.

[Sophocles]

I realize that this is not a bug but it might have relevance. Using the latest version of BD RB (28.04( I just did a backup of Eagle Eye, movie only, to single layer DVD. The result came out quite satisfactory in that there were no viable or audible flaws. The operating system however makes it noteworthy: I was using Windows 7 64 bit which I thought there was an issue with so I guess jdobbs corrected it, and I'm certain that there are others here also having success with it as well.

[worknstiff]

File Plays in TMT3 & PDVD so I'm guessing rip is ok.
Running Vista 32 and no changes since doing lots of other encodes. Puzzled!

[11:24:18] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: SURVEILLANCE
- Input BD size: 18.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:37:30.845]
- Target BD size: 8.06 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[11:24:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:24:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11:31:12] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[11:34:16] - Failed video encode, aborted

Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8250
TARGET_SIZE=8200
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\WORKING\
SOURCE_PATH=B:\BD_FULL_MOVIE_BACKUPS\SURVEILLANCE_BD\SURVEILLANCE\

[worknstiff]

OOP's forgot to mention: Vid MPEG-4 AVC & Aud is DTS-HDXLL Multi-CH Eng

[worknstiff]

BIG OOP's : While I was posting my error on here I was also reinstalling ffdshow, hali & all the tools. Surprise! It is all working again. Don't know what Vista stuff was going on in the background to break BD_Rebuilder but now it's OK. Sorry

[jdobbs]

BIG OOP's : While I was posting my error on here I was also reinstalling ffdshow, hali & all the tools. Surprise! It is all working again. Don't know what Vista stuff was going on in the background to break BD_Rebuilder but now it's OK. Sorry That's why I keep emphasizing reinstalls. Some of the other software packages (like codec packs) that people often like to download change settings without telling you (rude, isn't it?).

[baggins49]

total noob here so sorry if wrong section..

used bd rebuiler a few times now and think its awesome but suddenly when i select full back up i get target size too small ???

probally something really simple but looked everywhere for a answer..

again sorry if this is a stupid fault of my own ..

regards

[FZander]

I have a new problem. I have a movie with vc-1 codec, but movie only is so small, that recoded is not needed. Also the process works fine, but the disk on my Panasonic BD80 not play. Is there an option that i can force recode to AVC. All my movie with AVC as source and target works fine.

[jdobbs]

total noob here so sorry if wrong section..

used bd rebuiler a few times now and think its awesome but suddenly when i select full back up i get target size too small ???

probally something really simple but looked everywhere for a answer..

again sorry if this is a stupid fault of my own ..

regards That usually means you have selected too many audio language, and they (combined) don't leave enough room for the video on your target disc. This typically happens when BD-5/9 is selected along with a large audio list.

[jdobbs]

I have a new problem. I have a movie with vc-1 codec, but movie only is so small, that recoded is not needed. Also the process works fine, but the disk on my Panasonic BD80 not play. Is there an option that i can force recode to AVC. All my movie with AVC as source and target works fine. Select to "View/Edit Config File" under the "FILE" menu, and then add a line in the "[Options]" area that looks like this:

FORCE_ENCODE=1

That should do it.

[FZander]

Select to "View/Edit Config File" under the "FILE" menu, and then add a line in the "[Options]" area that looks like this:

FORCE_ENCODE=1

That should do it.
Oh thanks for this Option. Just I test a rebuild on a BE-RE with Alternative Movie Only Playlist. The default playlist is 0003, but the movie is 0000 and 0003 and 0000 have the same komplet movie time.
Is this not works, I test Force recode.

[vcarter]

hi

i got a big problem with a movie.it seems this blu-ray movie is splitted in multiple m2ts
here are the error i can see
08/24/09 [15:28:35] ScanDirectory() 00052 2601
the selected path exceed curent limits

it's an exented cut with added cut and normal cut .
an example:
00103.m2ts is the extended cut
00104.m2ts is the normal cut

can bd rb works on such an extended cut?

bye

[baggins49]

That usually means you have selected too many audio language, and they (combined) don't leave enough room for the video on your target disc. This typically happens when BD-5/9 is selected along with a large audio list.

ok but i selected bd 25 :-( i will keep at it.. as soon as i do movie only its fine ?

thxs

[Tongariro]

Hi

I got a weird problem:
doing Movie only BD-9 successfully.
Making ISO Image of the result on my HDD, playing perfect audio and video.
Burning the same ISO to DVD-DL resulted in perfect video and No sound.
It happens to me twice with "Race to witch mountain" and "Forgetting Sara Marshal".
It also happened in two different version of BD_RB with 25.03 and 24.02.

Am i doing something wrong?
Did anybody had this problem?

Thanks

[FZander]

My second try with the other playlist entry also not start in the player. Now I have a second movie with vc-1 and after choice movie only it rebuild without recoding an mux the original movie source. But this has only one playlist entry.
Now i burn it to test in the player.

Here the log
[17:11:49] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: BATMAN_BEGINS
- Input BD size: 22,50 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:20:02.852]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[17:11:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:11:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [18:02:33] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [18:02:33] Collecting video information
- [18:02:33] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:02:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:02:33] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:19:28]PHASE ONE complete
[18:19:28]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:19:28] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:41:56] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:41:57]JOB: BATMAN_BEGINS finished.

[FZander]

ok, the disk from this test also not run. Building a BD with unmodified Audio and VC-1 video not run on Panasonic BD80. Now I test the same movie with forced encoding to AVC.

[PurpleMan]

hi

i got a big problem with a movie.it seems this blu-ray movie is splitted in multiple m2ts
here are the error i can see
08/24/09 [15:28:35] ScanDirectory() 00052 2601
the selected path exceed curent limits

it's an exented cut with added cut and normal cut .
an example:
00103.m2ts is the extended cut
00104.m2ts is the normal cut

can bd rb works on such an extended cut?

bye

The error indicates that the path you're trying to use for source directory is too long. Try moving it to C:\MOVIE_NAME instead.

[travhavlicek]

@travhavlicek

Hi!

Exactly what happens that you're describing as Power DVD "crashing"?

PowerDVD closes without any error messages. Just as if I'd clicked the 'X' on the corner of the window.


Have you tried it on a standalone player? If PowerDVD "crashes" on anything, it means there is an issue in PowerDVD. If it simply says "I can't play this" or "your disc sucks" and exits gracefully -- it may be a different story.

I tried burning to a disc and playing on my PS3 and it works fine. So it appears to be a PowerDVD problem.

[FZander]

Another question, what make the Option:
Stricker AVCHD compliance for movie-only

Have I the choice for play in standelone player?

[jdobbs]

hi

i got a big problem with a movie.it seems this blu-ray movie is splitted in multiple m2ts
here are the error i can see
08/24/09 [15:28:35] ScanDirectory() 00052 2601
the selected path exceed curent limits

it's an exented cut with added cut and normal cut .
an example:
00103.m2ts is the extended cut
00104.m2ts is the normal cut

can bd rb works on such an extended cut?

bye That means that the place you have placed the source is too far downs in your directory structure (the total length of the pathname is too long). Just move it somewhere else (with a shorter path) and it should work.

If you're doing a full backup you don't have to worry about normal/extended cuts. If you are doing a movie-only backup, you can choose the one you want to use with the "Alternate Movie-Only Playlist" menu selection under the "MODE" menu.

[jdobbs]

ok but i selected bd 25 :-( i will keep at it.. as soon as i do movie only its fine ?

thxs It's still possible if the selected languages are (for example) LPCM or lossless. Selecting Movie-Only eliminates some of the disc making more room, so it's very possible it may fit then.

[jdobbs]

Hi

I got a weird problem:
doing Movie only BD-9 successfully.
Making ISO Image of the result on my HDD, playing perfect audio and video.
Burning the same ISO to DVD-DL resulted in perfect video and No sound.
It happens to me twice with "Race to witch mountain" and "Forgetting Sara Marshal".
It also happened in two different version of BD_RB with 25.03 and 24.02.

Am i doing something wrong?
Did anybody had this problem?

Thanks I've seen this happen on my Sony player on certain PiP discs... I'm still looking at it, but I think it may be a limitation of the player related to using BD-5/9. I've burned the exact same image to BD-RE and the sound works.

[PurpleMan]

@jdobbs

Got any idea what this means?

BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2601 [01:39:58] ScanDirectory() 00052
2601

This happens when I choose the source dir. I made sure it's not too long (Currently pointing to c:\2\INPUT\GLADIATOR)

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Got any idea what this means?

BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2601 [01:39:58] ScanDirectory() 00052
2601

This happens when I choose the source dir. I made sure it's not too long (Currently pointing to c:\2\INPUT\GLADIATOR) That means "bad path". Are you selecting the path from the button, or did you type it into the INI? I can't imagine how the error could occur if you've selected it. I guess there's also the possibility that the source was unmounted during the scan.

[PurpleMan]

That means "bad path". Are you selecting the path from the button, or did you type it into the INI? I can't imagine how the error could occur if you've selected it. I guess there's also the possibility that the source was unmounted during the scan.

Didn't type manually, I opened it using the button and selecting it from the tree. Did it twice in 2 different locations. it's just files on the HD, not a mounted on iso, so that rules out that possibility as well.

I should also mention that after receiving the error and clicking OK, it seems like it DOES work, I get an updated bd-structure view in BD-RB and I can start encoding (however I don't know if it's only showing a partial scan or a complete one).

Another thing I noticed that may be the reason is that this BD has a considerable amount of files in the STREAM folder (more than the average disc, iirc). I'll attach the dirlist when I get home from work.

Btw, I posted a lot of messages, reported various issues and received excellent support, but I never stopped to say thanks, so I'll do that now - Thank you for your all your hard work and dedication, and your resilience to unappreciative fools who think they deserve everything.

[Furiousflea]

I'm getting this too...

"BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2601 [09:42:02] ScanDirectory() 00052
2601"

Can't remember which disc, my apologies as I put it aside and deleted the folder. Sozzle, will have a look this evening.

[vcarter]

live the others i got the problem with gladiator.

i used ts muxer gui to append all the m2ts.

all the multiple m2ts are not in the good order,and every m2ts are a part of the movie.

if you want the uncut scene you choose a m2ts,and if you don't ,you choose another m2ts.it's a puzzle

actually bd rebuilder can't ripp it.it seems they found a way to prevent ripping

[jdobbs]

I'm getting this too...

"BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2601 [09:42:02] ScanDirectory() 00052
2601"

Can't remember which disc, my apologies as I put it aside and deleted the folder. Sozzle, will have a look this evening. Interesting. It's only about 5 lines of code in that section. Everything is system calls to get a list the subdirectories in a folder. If you can provide me the name of a disc that causes the error I will chase it down.

Are all of you using Windows 7? It's possible it could be a new bug introduced in the system call for that O/S...

Are you using a USB attached hard drive? I remember running into a similar issue with a bad driver in the past.

[ChBrig]

Hi Jdobbs,

Could you tell me what is the new option "one pass (CRF) Encoding"? For which application do you use it (BD-25, movie only Back up? ...)?


Thank you

[vcarter]

@jdobbs

we all have the same error with the same movie:gladiator

it's splitted in multiple m2ts.

@+

[jdobbs]

Hi Jdobbs,

Could you tell me what is the new option "one pass (CRF) Encoding"? For which application do you use it (BD-25, movie only Back up? ...)?


Thank you You can use it with any of the quality options. The upside is that is will take less time to encode, the downside is that the output size won't be as accurate (likely there may be a slight undersize).

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

we all have the same error with the same movie:gladiator

it's splitted in multiple m2ts.

@+ The multiple M2TS doesn't really have any impact. I have that disc and I'll test it later tonight.

[ChBrig]

You can use it with any of the quality options. The upside is that is will take less time to encode, the downside is that the output size won't be as accurate (likely there may be a slight undersize).

What do you mean by output size?

[DK]

What do you mean by output size?

The final size of the "new" movie data.

Like e.g. 24gb instead of 25gb or 7gb and not 8gb.

[JBear]

@jdobbs

we all have the same error with the same movie:gladiator

it's splitted in multiple m2ts.

@+
the patriot was similar to this i believe, but i dont recall multiple mpls files pointed at the same m2ts files like they are for gladiator.

[PurpleMan]

Interesting. It's only about 5 lines of code in that section. Everything is system calls to get a list the subdirectories in a folder. If you can provide me the name of a disc that causes the error I will chase it down.

Are all of you using Windows 7? It's possible it could be a new bug introduced in the system call for that O/S...

Are you using a USB attached hard drive? I remember running into a similar issue with a bad driver in the past.

I'm using Windows 7. But I'm not sure if it's a win7 issue, as I've been using bd-rb every single day for the past 30 days (on different discs) and this is the only disc that gave me this problem.

[leChameleon]

I have one machine for a few days... I've installed Win XP Pro (32-bit), SP3 + updates, BD-RB 0.28.04, ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid.exe, Matroska..., Avisynth_257.exe and WMP 11 as well. Changed ffdshow VC-1=wmv9 (didn't see option for wmv11).

Intel i7 940, 3GB RAM, etc...


SPY GAME (2001), REGION A, BD-RB LOG FILE
-------------------------------------------------------
[10:02:20] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: SPY_GAME
- Input BD size: 35.59 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:44:05.535]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[10:02:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:02:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [10:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 15)
- [10:16:36] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 182,184 frames
- Bitrate: 14,153 Kbs
- [10:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:47:05] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:35:35] Video Encode complete
- [16:35:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:35:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:44:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00056]
- [16:44:57] Reencoding: VID_00056 (2 of 15)
- [16:44:57] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 7,200 frames
- Bitrate: 3,289 Kbs
- [16:44:57] Reencoding: VID_00056, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:52:47] Reencoding: VID_00056, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:07:47] Video Encode complete
- [17:07:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:07:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:07:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
- [17:07:51] Reencoding: VID_00061 (3 of 15)
- [17:07:51] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,296 frames
- Bitrate: 3,836 Kbs
- [17:07:51] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:09:41] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:14:53] Video Encode complete
- [17:14:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:14:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:14:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [17:14:58] Reencoding: VID_00062 (4 of 15)
- [17:14:58] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,560 frames
- Bitrate: 5,868 Kbs
- [17:14:58] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:17:24] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:25:25] Video Encode complete
- [17:25:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:25:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:25:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [17:25:30] Reencoding: VID_00078 (5 of 15)
- [17:25:30] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,128 frames
- Bitrate: 3,796 Kbs
- [17:25:30] Reencoding: VID_00078, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:27:06] Reencoding: VID_00078, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:31:33] Video Encode complete
- [17:31:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:31:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:31:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00084]
- [17:31:37] Reencoding: VID_00084 (6 of 15)
- [17:31:37] Collecting video information
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps, 1,431 frames
- Bitrate: 2,332 Kbs
- [17:31:37] Reencoding: VID_00084, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[17:31:39] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any ideas what would cause this to fail? The size of VID_00084 is 27.81 MB. Do I need to set MIN_SIZE here? Quicker Encodes was disabled.

Man 32-bit is so much slower when testing Highest encode... Other encodes are not too bad.

[Capsbackup]

I have one machine for a few days... I've installed Win XP Pro (32-bit), SP3 + updates, BD-RB 0.28.04, ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid.exe, Matroska..., Avisynth_257.exe and WMP 11 as well. Changed ffdshow VC-1=wmv9 (didn't see option for wmv11).



ffdshow VC-1 = disabled if you want WMV11.

[Kakashi Sensei]

the patriot was similar to this i believe, but i dont recall multiple mpls files pointed at the same m2ts files like they are for gladiator.

Check the BDMV folder, I heard this release didn't have a AUXDATA folder that was causing some problems. Mine has was missing it as well. Going to test this out.

[shamoo]

Hello all, i have backed up 2 blu-rays with no problems, i went to back up Iron-Man when i got an error. there is 2 problems that keep occurring, one is the error message:
"Failed to build structure, aborted"
and the second one is for some reason whilst using BD rebuilder it is backing it up twice, so i have 2 20gb files? look at the image,
in the TMP folder is the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folder, why do i have the rest?

Also just to ask, the 1st time it did this the misses closed it down saying it was complete, i burned it using imgburn, and although the folders and movies is on the disk it doesn't play. is this to do with the error?

[jdobbs]

Hello all, i have backed up 2 blu-rays with no problems, i went to back up Iron-Man when i got an error. there is 2 problems that keep occurring, one is the error message:
"Failed to build structure, aborted"
and the second one is for some reason whilst using BD rebuilder it is backing it up twice, so i have 2 20gb files? look at the image,
in the TMP folder is the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folder, why do i have the rest?

Also just to ask, the 1st time it did this the misses closed it down saying it was complete, i burned it using imgburn, and although the folders and movies is on the disk it doesn't play. is this to do with the error? I don't think your source is not the original commercial disc (implying it has been preprocessed) or is corrupt. My copy of Iron Man has 99 M2TS files on disc one and 37 on disc two. The reason that concerns me is that in most cases like this the preprocessing is the likely cause of any errors.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Yup i'm getting the same error as the above people on Gladiator.

[shamoo]

i used BD rebuilder on the file after i used TsMuxer to take out all the stuff i didn't need, it went from 43.9gb to 29.7, does this help at all?

[jdobbs]

Yup i'm getting the same error as the above people on Gladiator. Unfortunately I've apparently loaned my copy of Gladiator to somebody (I guess I'm going to have to get myself a bar-code checkout system :)), either that or I've misplaced it in a recent move. I'll dig around some more...

[Kakashi Sensei]

Even with that error though it looks like all the files are being seen by BD-RB. I'm going to run it through tonight and see if I get a successful backup.

[PurpleMan]

Even with that error though it looks like all the files are being seen by BD-RB. I'm going to run it through tonight and see if I get a successful backup.

Don't bother. I tried it, it encoded everything, but rebuilding of bd-structure (last stage) failed (for no obvious reason)

[Capsbackup]

i used BD rebuilder on the file after i used TsMuxer to take out all the stuff i didn't need, it went from 43.9gb to 29.7, does this help at all?

Yes, that means you pre-processed the disc first. Try BD-RB on the original ripped Blu-Ray only.

[jdobbs]

Don't bother. I tried it, it encoded everything, but rebuilding of bd-structure (last stage) failed (for no obvious reason) Probably because its missing some files. The error is happening in scanning the original disc's directory structure.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Probably because its missing some files. The error is happening in scanning the original disc's directory structure.

Is there a way to verify the missing files? Maybe it was intentional from the manufacture :confused:

[shamoo]

Yes, that means you pre-processed the disc first. Try BD-RB on the original ripped Blu-Ray only.


Wont that make the quality worst? shrinking 43gb - 23gb with all the unessential material on it or taking out the unwanted material like foreign languages so its just the movie and audio left which is then 29gb? which is what i did.
All the other discs were done this way.
what i'm trying to achieve is a blu-ray quality disc, ideally like for like but since d/l blu-ray disc are about £10 thats too much.

and 1 question what is the best setting to have for encoding ?(for quality of picture purpose)

[vcarter]

hi

i know how to do a movie only backup with bd rb,but in this blu-ray there's the choice in the menu to choice the uncut or the original movie.

so how can i say bdrb to do " a movie only" of the uncut version?

maybe this is the reason of the error:i suppose there's a mpls for the uncut and one for the original.

@+

[Sharc]

Mode => Movie-only backup => Alternate Movie-only playlist
From the playlist select the uncut version.

[FZander]

Now I have a backup from my first movie with vc-1 codec.
I have remove a XP-Codec Pack. Reinstall all tools from the Description. After removing the no movie part, audio and video are small enought for a BD-25, but this disc not run in the panasonic bd80. I have read this is a timing/tsmuxer problem for panasonic player.
So I have force the encoding to AVC and its works fine.

[vcarter]

thanx for the help.

i've seen every m2ts in mpc,and i've choiced the uncut ones.there are some m2ts wich are the same for both,and some are different .
example:
00103.m2ts is the extended cut
00104.m2ts is the normal cut

i used "append" with tsmuxer gui with : the uncut version is 2.50.58 .i've spent a lot of time cause all the multiple m2ts are not in the good order.

Alternate Movie-only playlist =>playlist 00010 (or 00013)=> error ScanDirectory() 00052 2601

here's the m2ts exact list for the uncut version (did not write the 2 first 00 of all the m2ts)
102/198/103/105/107/201/203/204/205/208/207/206/209/210/212/213/214/215/216/217/218/219/220/221/222/223/224

here's the exact m2ts list for the ever seen movie:
102/198/104/105/106/201/236/204/226/208/227/206/228/210/229/213/230/215/231/217/232/210/233221/234/223/235

@+

[drmih]

Not being cynical but Gladiator isn't officially released in the UK or USA until September but about 4 days ago a partially pre-processed version was released on a newsgroup and suddenly there are lots of people not being able to re-encode it using bd-rb. It doesn't bother me but for jdobbs sake can people actually confirm that they have ripped an original disc, done no pre-processing, and still got errors.

[shamoo]

Not being cynical but Gladiator isn't officially released in the UK or USA until September but about 4 days ago a partially pre-processed version was released on a newsgroup and suddenly there are lots of people not being able to re-encode it using bd-rb. It doesn't bother me but for jdobbs sake can people actually confirm that they have ripped an original disc, done no pre-processing, and still got errors.

i have had a "failed to build structure" on a ripped original of Iron-Man, the failed happened was on a pre-processed file. Before i try it again on the original folder, what is the best set up to have? i want the best quality and if i chose to keep hd-audio would my ac-receiver down convert manually? the reason i want to keep hd audio is for the future when i get an av-receiver that does play hd audio, in encoder settings its currently on high quality, should i change it to highest? in the set up section what audio should i have ticked? if i have "keep hd audio for BD25 encoding" ticked, (excuse the dumb question) but will the av-receiver be able to down convert it?
one last question (for now :eek:) why not use BD rebiulder on a pre-processed file?

[Kakashi Sensei]

just b/c it hasn't hit the shelves doens't mean it isnt for sale early...

[Kakashi Sensei]

i have had a "failed to build structure" on a ripped original of Iron-Man, the failed happened was on a pre-processed file. Before i try it again on the original folder, what is the best set up to have? i want the best quality and if i chose to keep hd-audio would my ac-receiver down convert manually? the reason i want to keep hd audio is for the future when i get an av-receiver that does play hd audio, in encoder settings its currently on high quality, should i change it to highest? in the set up section what audio should i have ticked? if i have "keep hd audio for BD25 encoding" ticked, (excuse the dumb question) but will the av-receiver be able to down convert it?
one last question (for now :eek:) why not use BD rebiulder on a pre-processed file?

It can affect the output and cause unknown errors. BD-RB is meant to used on an unaltered Retail Disc that was ripped to the hard drive for backup of retail owned Bluray, not for piracy.

[FZander]

i want the best quality and if i chose to keep hd-audio would my ac-receiver down convert manually?
I keep also the best audio for later change the receiver. On my LCD (40" Sony) i can not see the difference between 14 or 20 Mbps video. But i can hear a differenz from 384 kbps AC-3 to DTS with 640 kbs or more.
And also now my old receiver convert the new formats fine.

[drmih]

just b/c it hasn't hit the shelves doens't mean it isnt for sale early...

That's not the issue - as I've said I'm not bothered myself. However, for those who have been helping here since the beginning we are aware of several times where a bug was actually a problem with a specific 'downloaded' iso - if it comes from several different rips then it's probably a bug, but if it's from several people all with the same rip then it can cause chaos. If you own an original Gladiator and have found a bug then that's important to know.

[Kakashi Sensei]

That's not the issue - as I've said I'm not bothered myself. However, for those who have been helping here since the beginning we are aware of several times where a bug was actually a problem with a specific 'downloaded' iso - if it comes from several different rips then it's probably a bug, but if it's from several people all with the same rip then it can cause chaos. If you own an original Gladiator and have found a bug then that's important to know.
I understand, trying to figure out a bad rip for a true bug :)

[leChameleon]

Since BD-RB won't process a few entire jobs can someone PM be and let me know how to put together 1 mts and 1 audio file so I can see if that part works on a home player? I can't figure out why on the smallest file BD-RB fails. It it plays fine on its own. Also tested two different rippers as well.

[setarip_old]

@Kakashi Sensei

Hi!just b/c it hasn't hit the shelves doens't mean it isnt for sale early...Since you raised the topic, I'll tell you that, if in fact, a legitimate retailer has sold you a legitimate copy of a BluRay (or standard DVD) prior to its offiicial release date, that retailer has violated his/her contract (with its distributor and/or the studios) and the two of you have participated an illegal transaction...

[setarip_old]

@leChameleon

Hi!how to put together 1 mts and 1 audio fileUse "tsMuxeR" and drag and drop each of the two files into the main window, then select whatever will suit your standalone player - either "BluRay" or "AVCHD"...

[jdobbs]

Not being cynical but Gladiator isn't officially released in the UK or USA until September but about 4 days ago a partially pre-processed version was released on a newsgroup and suddenly there are lots of people not being able to re-encode it using bd-rb. It doesn't bother me but for jdobbs sake can people actually confirm that they have ripped an original disc, done no pre-processing, and still got errors.Hah! That explains why I can't find it!!! I was thinking of my DVD copy... and it's on the shelf. :eek:

[jdobbs]

Since BD-RB won't process a few entire jobs can someone PM be and let me know how to put together 1 mts and 1 audio file so I can see if that part works on a home player? I can't figure out why on the smallest file BD-RB fails. It it plays fine on its own. Also tested two different rippers as well. I'm exhausted by this cryptic talk... if there is a bug -- report it! But simply saying "BD-RB won't process" is B.S. This is a bug report thread, not a gossip column.

Hundreds of discs processed I haven't found one yet that it "wouldn't process" -- the odds are the problem is your computer and/or your settings.

[Kakashi Sensei]

@Kakashi Sensei

Hi!Since you raised the topic, I'll tell you that, if in fact, a legitimate retailer has sold you a legitimate copy of a BluRay (or standard DVD) prior to its offiicial release date, that retailer has violated his/her contract (with its distributor and/or the studios) and the two of you have participated an illegal transaction...

HI!
Thanks for the advice, point taken! But as stated its a bug report, and its not a pirated copy so I dont see the problem. In the future i will wait until the official release date to post any bug i may encounter, I'm sorry for wasting space in this issue.

I'll report back if the problem is still there on September 1st. Again sorry for the confusion!

[setarip_old]

As my final somewhat O.T. comment, for the sake of all of us, I hope the following godawful reviews at Amazon.com were about the pre-release version mentioned by "dmih" and not about the true release purchased in advance by "Kakashi Sensei":

Avoid this one. It's not what you think

The butchering of a cinematic masterpiece - now available on Blu-Ray!

A Total Mess

AVOID this BD Release of Gladiator!

Gladiator in Wax City

DO NOT BUY WARNING!!!

WAIT FOR THE RERELEASE

Overprocessed video look on Blu Ray

[leChameleon]

I'm exhausted by this cryptic talk... if there is a bug -- report it! But simply saying "BD-RB won't process" is B.S. This is a bug report thread, not a gossip column.

Hundreds of discs processed I haven't found one yet that it "wouldn't process" -- the odds are the problem is your computer and/or your settings.I beg your pardon, I've asked for assistance before to help attempt to determine if the problem lies within BD-RB or external. As "Hundreds of discs" may run perfectly well in your environment it may not be the case for everyone else. I understand your limitations in testing all these environments and don't expect that you could test them all. I think your tone is a bit in appropriate.

[robinthehood]

Anyone explain to me what this means "GUI issue, no hWnd returned."

[FZander]

Anyone explain to me what this means "GUI issue, no hWnd returned."
A windows error, that should you never seen. (no handle for a windows)

[robinthehood]

A windows error, that should you never seen. (no handle for a windows)

Thanks, will try restarting the job later :)

[Kakashi Sensei]

As my final somewhat O.T. comment, for the sake of all of us, I hope the following godawful reviews at Amazon.com were about the pre-release version mentioned by "dmih" and not about the true release purchased in advance by "Kakashi Sensei":



Those reviews are spot on about the video quality :( Not the greatest BD out there. Too bad for such a great movie.

[vcarter]

Those reviews are spot on about the video quality

+1

this is about dnr and ee

do you remember the beginning battle?on the blu-ray,most of the flaming arrows aren't visible

@+

[hudsucker]

Hi all,

I have tried a movie only back up of `The Siege` to BD-25. In order to get a maximum bit rate I wanted to get as close as possible to the BD-25 maximum size of 23.2 GB.

Therefore I have set the target to 24.41 GB and even to 29.39 GB with different versions and speed settings:

20:50:24] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 24,41 GB

-----------------------
[21:40:43] BD Rebuilder v0.26.01 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 29,39 GB


But no matter what I have tried, the maximum output size was no more than 21.9 GB, still a waste of 1.3 GB.

Is there anything I can do to increase the output size?

Is it because the maximum bit rate is limited?
(The original bit rate of the movie is around 34500 kbps)



Thanks.

[Capsbackup]

@hudsucker;
Welcome to the forum. This is really not a "bug report".
I believe the term is called encoder saturation, and because x264 is awesome, it will not just increase the file size to fill out the disc.
You will not be able to tell the difference between the original and this backup. Do not get caught up in this misleading idea that since you did not fill up the disc to its capacity that you somehow did not get the highest quality. Check for yourself, let your eyes be the judge. 1.3 GB is not going to change the visible quality. Just your perception. ;)

[meatwad]

I believe I may have found a bug with "The Matrix" (Region A) using pip secondary audio. On playback in TMT3 both the 5.1 and pip secondary audio audio tracks are playing as if they are merged. The audio is distorted and jumpy. I also tried to encode it leaving the TrueHD track instead. With TrueHD as the main track there is no simultaneous distorted playback of it and the secondary audio. However, when you do try to play the secondary audio on pip it lowers the main track volume as it should but I can never hear the secondary audio. I verified that the secondary audio track was present and listed as separate tracks in the .m2ts file with TSMuxer. Both attempts were on a Windows 7 machine and I will make another in XP to rule out the OS. Here are the logs from my most recent attempt:

[02:06:41] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: THE_MATRIX
- Input BD size: 37.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:35:52.495]
- Target BD size: 23.54 GB
[02:06:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:06:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [02:12:45] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 29)
- [02:12:45] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [11:19:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [11:19:55] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 29)
- [11:21:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [11:21:29] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 29)
- [11:22:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [11:22:13] Reencoding: VID_00003 (4 of 29)
- [11:28:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [11:28:19] Reencoding: VID_00004 (5 of 29)
- [11:31:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [11:31:35] Reencoding: VID_00005 (6 of 29)
- [11:52:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [11:53:06] Reencoding: VID_00006 (7 of 29)
- [11:55:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [11:55:50] Reencoding: VID_00007 (8 of 29)
- [11:58:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [11:58:15] Reencoding: VID_00016 (9 of 29)
- [12:00:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [12:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00018 (10 of 29)
- [12:03:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [12:03:26] Reencoding: VID_00019 (11 of 29)
- [12:32:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [12:32:40] Reencoding: VID_00020 (12 of 29)
- [12:34:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [12:34:39] Reencoding: VID_00021 (13 of 29)
- [12:38:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [12:39:00] Reencoding: VID_00022 (14 of 29)
- [12:46:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [12:46:28] Reencoding: VID_00023 (15 of 29)
- [12:50:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [12:50:14] Reencoding: VID_00024 (16 of 29)
- [12:52:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [12:52:33] Reencoding: VID_00025 (17 of 29)
- [12:53:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [12:53:23] Reencoding: VID_00026 (18 of 29)
- [12:56:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [12:57:00] Reencoding: VID_00027 (19 of 29)
- [12:59:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [12:59:06] Reencoding: VID_00028 (20 of 29)
- [13:01:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [13:01:57] Reencoding: VID_00029 (21 of 29)
- [13:02:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [13:02:51] Reencoding: VID_00030 (22 of 29)
- [13:04:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [13:05:00] Reencoding: VID_00032 (23 of 29)
- [13:22:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
- [13:23:00] Reencoding: VID_00037 (24 of 29)
- [13:42:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [13:42:18] Reencoding: VID_00038 (25 of 29)
- [14:04:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [14:04:23] Reencoding: VID_00039 (26 of 29)
- [14:31:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [14:31:35] Reencoding: VID_00040 (27 of 29)
- [14:43:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [14:43:38] Reencoding: VID_00041 (28 of 29)
- [14:53:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
- [14:54:24] Reencoding: VID_00043 (29 of 29)
[18:53:54]PHASE ONE complete
[18:53:54]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:53:54] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:54:03] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:54:03]JOB: THE_MATRIX finished.

[jdobbs]

I beg your pardon, I've asked for assistance before to help attempt to determine if the problem lies within BD-RB or external. As "Hundreds of discs" may run perfectly well in your environment it may not be the case for everyone else. I understand your limitations in testing all these environments and don't expect that you could test them all. I think your tone is a bit in appropriate. Inappropriate or not... this is a bug report thread, not a comment thread. If you have a bug report it, then post it wait for a fix. But multiple posts on the same issue followed by "BD-RB won't process" comments is not only inappropriate but inaccurate.

I'm not trying to be a jerk -- honestly I'm a nice guy. But it's gotten to the point that I have to go through 10 pages of this thread just to find a true bug report to work on (as opposed to the 900 exact same "encode failed" reports with no other supporting information that are CODEC related and no one wants to read the previous 899 reports that explain how to fix it). Of course I guess I can hardly blame them -- as they have to read 6000 posts like the one I'm typing and responding to right now to find them...

[Capsbackup]

@meatwad;
I think you will find if you try this backup with PowerDVD, or better yet, burn to a BD-R/RE, and test it on a standalone, this will not happen. I too have experienced this with TMT2 and TMT3, and not with PowerDVD or on my Sony BX1. Though the original may play without this mixing, I have never had a BD-RB backup display this after burning to BD media and played back on my standalone.

[jdobbs]

Anyone explain to me what this means "GUI issue, no hWnd returned." Yeah. It's a problem I've been working on for a long time. Occasionally when BD-RB tries to find the X264 window (to get the handle so it can update its display) the operating system just doesn't seem to return it -- even though it is running.

The upside is that the encode is actually running when you see that and BD-RB is working... the downside is that the progress bars and percentages don't show progress while the encode is being executed.

It has never happened to me -- but has been reported as an inconsistent bug by several users. I've haven't yet been able to find a common thread so I can find the cause.

[jdobbs]

Those reviews are spot on about the video quality :( Not the greatest BD out there. Too bad for such a great movie. What a disappointment. I love that movie. Maximus reminds me so much of me... ok... except maybe for that whole bravery and honor stuff... oh, and I'm not really very good with a sword... and I guess he could be a little more buff than me... I forgot, he's also a natural born leader of men and I'm a geek programmer... but other than that we're pretty much like twins (except we don't really look anything alike). Fraternal twins, maybe?

After a lecture on keeping this thread focused on bugs, I post a note like this. I really should strike myself.

[jdobbs]

Hi all,

I have tried a movie only back up of `The Siege` to BD-25. In order to get a maximum bit rate I wanted to get as close as possible to the BD-25 maximum size of 23.2 GB.

Therefore I have set the target to 24.41 GB and even to 29.39 GB with different versions and speed settings:

20:50:24] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 24,41 GB

-----------------------
[21:40:43] BD Rebuilder v0.26.01 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 29,39 GB


But no matter what I have tried, the maximum output size was no more than 21.9 GB, still a waste of 1.3 GB.

Is there anything I can do to increase the output size?

Is it because the maximum bit rate is limited?
(The original bit rate of the movie is around 34500 kbps)



Thanks. You're probably hitting encoder saturation, and the quality is as high as it is going to go. That's a good thing in most cases... it's really not a waste, because if you filled the other 1.3GB (and saturation is the case) it would be with the equivalent of zeros anyway. There are ways in X264 that you can cause it to waste bits so you fill a disc -- but there really isn't any logic to doing so.

Of course I'm just speculating that it is saturation, but it isn't that uncommon on BD-25 backups. X264 is just a really, really efficient encoder.

[Edit] Too late on the trigger... I see that Capsbackup already explained this... :)

[meatwad]

@meatwad;
I think you will find if you try this backup with PowerDVD, or better yet, burn to a BD-R/RE, and test it on a standalone, this will not happen. I too have experienced this with TMT2 and TMT3, and not with PowerDVD or on my Sony BX1. Though the original may play without this mixing, I have never had a BD-RB backup display this after burning to BD media and played back on my standalone.

Thanks, I'll give it a try. I watch more movies off my PC than my standalone and I'm not a big fan of PowerDVD anymore (try to watch Close Encounters of the Third Kind with it and you'll understand why). Plus it no longer supports playing BR from a folder.

[Sharc]

v0.24.04 / full backup including secondary video on BD-5 / resize 720 / audio re-encoded to AC3 448 / 1-pass CRF.

Everything perfect and the quality is amazingly good, but final size was 4.74 GB which exceeds the disc capacity of the DVD5 by about 8%. I am aware of the sizing risk with 1-pass, so it's probably not a bug. Just wondering a little about the +8% oversize, because previous backups ended up at perfect 96 .... 98% of the disc capacity.

[Groucho2004]

Yeah. It's a problem I've been working on for a long time. Occasionally when BD-RB tries to find the X264 window (to get the handle so it can update its display) the operating system just doesn't seem to return it -- even though it is running.

How do you try to get the window handle? FindWindow()?

I wrote a couple of programs that retrieve the window handle from a console window. I use EnumWindows() periodically to enumerate all windows and have a callback function (EnumWindowsProc()) that checks the properties of the windows (GetWindowText(), for example). This never failed to retrieve the window handle I need.

You may already do it the same way but if not you might give it a try...

[shamoo]

It can affect the output and cause unknown errors. BD-RB is meant to used on an unaltered Retail Disc that was ripped to the hard drive for backup of retail owned Bluray, not for piracy.

I backed up again using the original folder and it worked, although the folder is 50gb, let me explain,.. in the iron-man folder there are 2 folders, "workfiles" & "iron-man" in workfiles there is 36gb of stuff in there and in the iron-man folder is the BDMV & CERTIFICATE folders, why is it putting a workfiles folder in it and can i delete it?

also thanks for your help :D

[jdobbs]

How do you try to get the window handle? FindWindow()?

I wrote a couple of programs that retrieve the window handle from a console window. I use EnumWindows() periodically to enumerate all windows and have a callback function (EnumWindowsProc()) that checks the properties of the windows (GetWindowText(), for example). This never failed to retrieve the window handle I need.

You may already do it the same way but if not you might give it a try... Thanks for the tip. Yes, I'm using FindWindow(). I'll switch over to EnumWindow() and see if that serves me better. Much appreciated.

[jdobbs]

v0.24.04 / full backup including secondary video on BD-5 / resize 720 / audio re-encoded to AC3 448 / 1-pass CRF.

Everything perfect and the quality is amazingly good, but final size was 4.74 GB which exceeds the disc capacity of the DVD5 by about 8%. I am aware of the sizing risk with 1-pass, so it's probably not a bug. Just wondering a little about the +8% oversize, because previous backups ended up at perfect 96 .... 98% of the disc capacity. I assume you meant v0.28.4. Yes, I've noticed that the sizing has started going over as well with one pass CRF. The same thing happened to me on an encode recently. I think it is related to the recent change I added to prevent the looping, but I'm not sure. I'm looking at it to see why that would do it. Odd for sure, that something like that could cause an oversize -- but since it started happening right afterwards, the chances are high that it is related.

[jdobbs]

I backed up again using the original folder and it worked, although the folder is 50gb, let me explain,.. in the iron-man folder there are 2 folders, "workfiles" & "iron-man" in workfiles there is 36gb of stuff in there and in the iron-man folder is the BDMV & CERTIFICATE folders, why is it putting a workfiles folder in it and can i delete it?

also thanks for your help :D Workfiles is where BD-RB does all it's extracting, encoding, converting, etc. The other (in this case IRON-MAN) folder is the actual output that is meant to be written to disc. You can delete the WORKFILES folder, but not until the rebuild is complete. The reason BD-Rebuilder doesn't delete it automatically is so if something goes wrong, expert users can manually make corrections and continue without having to start from scratch.

At some point, when everything is working more reliably I'll probably make automatic removal of the WORKING folder the default. For right now you can go into the SETUP dialog and click on "Remove WORKFILES after Rebuild" and it will do so.

[pbeumer2001]

Hi all,

I have tried a movie only back up of `The Siege` to BD-25. In order to get a maximum bit rate I wanted to get as close as possible to the BD-25 maximum size of 23.2 GB.

Therefore I have set the target to 24.41 GB and even to 29.39 GB with different versions and speed settings:

20:50:24] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 24,41 GB

-----------------------
[21:40:43] BD Rebuilder v0.26.01 (beta)
- Source: AUSNAHME_DT
- Input BD size: 29,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:05.823]
- Target BD size: 29,39 GB


But no matter what I have tried, the maximum output size was no more than 21.9 GB, still a waste of 1.3 GB.

Is there anything I can do to increase the output size?

Is it because the maximum bit rate is limited?
(The original bit rate of the movie is around 34500 kbps)



Thanks.

Are you sure it`s encoding? Seems like it`s not necessary to encode and that the main movie file stays intact.

[jdobbs]

Are you sure it`s encoding? Seems like it`s not necessary to encode and that the main movie file stays intact. Hah! Good point. I should have noticed that. It has nothing to do with saturation -- it's staying the same size because it doesn't need to reencode and isn't doing so. There's no "wasted space" when you keep the original -- because no reencode is ever better than the original (ignoring filtering for cleanup).

@hudsucker
If you're determined to fill the disc at the expense of quality, you should be able to add:

FORCE_ENCODE=1

to the "[Options]" are of the INI and BD-RB will reencode anyway. I wouldn't recommend it, though.

[MikeyBK]

Wonder if anyone is having some chapter navigation issues when using the batch encoding? v0.28.04

I set up three BDs to BD-9, movie only.... and only the first one runs properly. The second jumps back to the beginning of the movie when trying to jump to next chapter, and the third doesn't do anything when pressing to jump forward. Both jumps backwards to the beginning like normal.

-----------------------
[23:45:18] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
-----------------------
[23:45:18] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: ADVENTURELAND
- Input BD size: 29.65 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:46:54.866]
- Target BD size: 8.15 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:45:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:45:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00069]
- [23:52:49] Reencoding: VID_00069 (1 of 1)
[04:36:08]PHASE ONE complete
[04:36:08]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [04:36:08] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[04:41:04] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[04:41:04]JOB: ADVENTURELAND finished.
-----------------------
[04:41:04] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [2]
-----------------------
[04:41:06] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: DUPLICITY
- Input BD size: 21.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:05:02.494]
- Target BD size: 8.15 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[04:41:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:41:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [04:47:51] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
[10:03:52]PHASE ONE complete
[10:03:52]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:03:52] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:08:57] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:08:57]JOB: DUPLICITY finished.
-----------------------
[10:08:57] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [3]
-----------------------
[10:08:59] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: FIGHTING
- Input BD size: 21.51 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:44:56.707]
- Target BD size: 8.15 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[10:08:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:08:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00082]
- [10:15:11] Reencoding: VID_00082 (1 of 1)
[15:07:41]PHASE ONE complete
[15:07:41]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:07:41] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:12:44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[15:12:44]JOB: FIGHTING finished.
==========================
[15:12:44] END - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================

[Status]
LABEL=ADVENTURELAND
VERSION=v0.28.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=31840014336
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=31840014336
TARGET_SIZE=8755609600
REDUCTION=.274987614879948
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00069]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=1000000000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=8755609600
RATE=9394
NSIZE=7868467200
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


[Status]
LABEL=DUPLICITY
VERSION=v0.28.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=23518513152
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=23518513152
TARGET_SIZE=8755609600
REDUCTION=.372285847468866
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00010]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=10000
M2TS_TARGET=8755609600
RATE=7911
NSIZE=7795052544
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


[Status]
LABEL=FIGHTING
VERSION=v0.28.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=23098546176
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=23098546176
TARGET_SIZE=8755609600
REDUCTION=.379054574832823
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00082]
AUDIO=100
PGS=10000
M2TS_TARGET=8755609600
RATE=9578
NSIZE=7908446208
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[MikeyBK]

Actually, it might be an issue with the version and not just the Batch encoding. I actually redid Fighting because I did the theatrical version with the batch process, but the unrated version which I did seperately also has the same chapter jumping issue... press to jump forward and it returns to the beginning of the movie instead.

[worknstiff]

Hi Mikey, I had the same problem with a couple of movie only BDRB backups to BD9. The two movies I had that would either freeze up or go back to the start would also not fast forward. Both of the movies had mutiple .mpls files and somehow that messes with the original chapter locations. (I think) As a solution someone told me to use Clown BD and have it rebuild the .mpls into one large .mpls and use BD_Rebuilder on it instead of the original rip. That fixed the one movie (12 Rounds) but not Watchman. Still can't figure it out. BTW is your player a Panasonic? Mine is an old BD-30. and plays all BDRB BD-9 movies except those two. I did try them on a couple of Sony's but it did the same freeze up.

[setarip_old]

@worknstiff

Hi!

If you're willing to do something a bit differently, in order to get a successful movie-only of "Watchmen", try the following:

1) Use "MakeMKV" (Do NOT use "AnyDVDHD" with it) to both rip the original BluRay disc and convert it to an MKV

2) Load the MKV into "tsMuxeR" and save as "BluRay"

3) Load this NEW BluRay "package" into BD-RB and process as "Movie-only" - Yes, you'll have correct chaptering ;>}

[MikeyBK]

Hi Mikey, I had the same problem with a couple of movie only BDRB backups to BD9. The two movies I had that would either freeze up or go back to the start would also not fast forward. Both of the movies had mutiple .mpls files and somehow that messes with the original chapter locations. (I think) As a solution someone told me to use Clown BD and have it rebuild the .mpls into one large .mpls and use BD_Rebuilder on it instead of the original rip. That fixed the one movie (12 Rounds) but not Watchman. Still can't figure it out. BTW is your player a Panasonic? Mine is an old BD-30. and plays all BDRB BD-9 movies except those two. I did try them on a couple of Sony's but it did the same freeze up.

Well first, as you can see in my posted logs, they are all single m2ts file movie-onlys.
And this chapter navigation issue only surfaced with this latest version of BD-RB, both when played from the HDD with Arcsoft TMT player or from BD-9 disc on my Sony BDP-BX1.

I'm certain this is related to the rebuild stage, and due to it being VC-1. But will wait for JD to inject his thoughts.+

Oh BTW... I had no issues whatsoever with Watchmen..


[23:51:15] BD Rebuilder v0.25.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 32.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:06:28.385]
- Target BD size: 8.15 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:51:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:51:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [23:58:07] Reencoding: VID_00500 (1 of 25)
- [00:03:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00501]
- [00:03:14] Reencoding: VID_00501 (2 of 25)
- [00:04:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00502]
- [00:04:37] Reencoding: VID_00502 (3 of 25)
- [00:07:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00503]
- [00:07:57] Reencoding: VID_00503 (4 of 25)
- [00:13:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00504]
- [00:13:43] Reencoding: VID_00504 (5 of 25)
- [00:38:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00505]
- [00:38:50] Reencoding: VID_00505 (6 of 25)
- [00:43:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00506]
- [00:44:26] Reencoding: VID_00506 (7 of 25)
- [01:22:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00507]
- [01:22:09] Reencoding: VID_00507 (8 of 25)
- [01:26:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00508]
- [01:26:38] Reencoding: VID_00508 (9 of 25)
- [01:35:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00509]
- [01:35:12] Reencoding: VID_00509 (10 of 25)
- [01:38:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00510]
- [01:38:36] Reencoding: VID_00510 (11 of 25)
- [01:45:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00511]
- [01:45:20] Reencoding: VID_00511 (12 of 25)
- [01:50:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00512]
- [01:50:54] Reencoding: VID_00512 (13 of 25)
- [02:30:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00513]
- [02:30:54] Reencoding: VID_00513 (14 of 25)
- [02:34:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00514]
- [02:35:35] Reencoding: VID_00514 (15 of 25)
- [03:27:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00515]
- [03:28:06] Reencoding: VID_00515 (16 of 25)
- [03:34:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00516]
- [03:34:56] Reencoding: VID_00516 (17 of 25)
- [04:06:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00517]
- [04:06:12] Reencoding: VID_00517 (18 of 25)
- [04:11:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00518]
- [04:11:42] Reencoding: VID_00518 (19 of 25)
- [04:33:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00519]
- [04:33:39] Reencoding: VID_00519 (20 of 25)
- [04:38:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00520]
- [04:38:53] Reencoding: VID_00520 (21 of 25)
- [04:45:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00521]
- [04:45:16] Reencoding: VID_00521 (22 of 25)
- [04:49:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00522]
- [04:50:01] Reencoding: VID_00522 (23 of 25)
- [05:16:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00523]
- [05:16:25] Reencoding: VID_00523 (24 of 25)
- [05:23:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00524]
- [05:23:06] Reencoding: VID_00524 (25 of 25)
[05:23:08]PHASE ONE complete
[05:23:08]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [05:23:08] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[05:31:27] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[05:31:27]JOB: WATCHMEN finished.

[jdobbs]

I don't think it has anything to do with the BD-RB version... but I can say that I have the same problem with Watchmen (Region A) and I'm still trying to figure it out. I can do a complete backup and there are no issues, but if I do a movie-only, it will play fine as long as you don't jump chapters, but if you go a couple of chapter jumps into the film it locks and you only get sound.

I'm pretty sure it is a TSMUXER issue. Because the only thing I could imagine that would cause that is the CLPI file. If you look at the .META file used for muxing it looks correctly structured to me (but very long with lots of combined parts). I even removed the chaptering and used 5 minute defaults with no joy. On movie-only rebuilding, the TSMUXER output isn't modified after completion.

@MikeyBK

If it worked for you, can you send me your settings? Maybe it has something to do with audio or subs kept...

[MikeyBK]

I don't think it has anything to do with the BD-RB version... but I can say that I have the same problem with Watchmen (Region A) and I'm still trying to figure it out. I can do a complete backup and there are no issues, but if I do a movie-only, it will play fine as long as you don't jump chapters, but if you go a couple of chapter jumps into the film it locks and you only get sound.

I'm pretty sure it is a TSMUXER issue. Because the only thing I could imagine that would cause that is the CLPI file. If you look at the .META file used for muxing it looks correctly structured to me (but very long with lots of combined parts). I even removed the chaptering and used 5 minute defaults with no joy. On movie-only rebuilding, the TSMUXER output isn't modified after completion.

@MikeyBK

If it worked for you, can you send me your settings? Maybe it has something to do with audio or subs kept...

For Watchmen I didn't save the inf, I had it set to output custom BD-9 size of 8350 MBs, Keeping only one English audio and one PGS, also selecting an alternative movie-only playlist. High Quality setting but I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. Also did not resize.
Seems TSMuxer is having some issues with certain BDs on the rebuild, and especially I guess with alternative movie-only playlist or multi-m2ts movies.

[Capsbackup]

The first time I tried Watchmen, I also experienced this. However, I tried it again, but first ran the original rip thru ClownBD, letting it strip the unnecessary audio and subtitle tracks, and creating a new Blu-Ray with one .m2ts ( Of course, movie only ). I'm not sure why, but this new Blu-Ray was selected as my source with BD-RB, and after BD-RB reencoded to BD-9, the outcome came out perfect, no more video stopping but audio still playing. Chapter advance worked, both forward and backward.
So I'm not sure what ClownBD, along with eac3to and tsMuxeR, does differently that BD-RD does on its own, but the outcome did work this way and not with BD-RB all by itself.
I know this is considered preprocessing, and I normally will not preprocess my movies unless there is an issue like this. ( which has been rare )
I am NOT recommending this procedure, but did want to share my experience and results with this movie.
I have tried eac3to on occasion, and it does seem to be an excellent program, very usefull at times. However, I do not know if this is the reason I was successful with backing up Watchmen. Maybe the second time thru tsMuxeR, once with ClownBD/eac3to and then again with BD-RB, had something to do with it. :confused:

[Sharc]

..... I have tried eac3to on occasion, and it does seem to be an excellent program, very usefull at times. However, I do not know if this is the reason I was successful with backing up Watchmen. Maybe the second time thru tsMuxeR, once with ClownBD/eac3to and then again with BD-RB, had something to do with it. :confused:
Just to add: I had an issue with BD-RB producing audio/video out of sync (movie only) in one case. Using eac3to for the demuxing and for audio conversion solved it.

[MikeyBK]

I've run the movie only m2ts from Fighting through TSMuxer version that is in BD-RB v0.28.04, and will run the resulting Bluray files thru BD-RB tonite... will see if that makes a difference with the chapter navigational issue on this title.

Couple more tests I ran... I ran the BD-9 files that was output from BD-RB and was having navigational issues, thru TSMuxer (both an older version of TSMuxer and the version in BD-RB v0.28.04), and both resulting BD-9 files have proper chapter jumping capabilities now.
I also checked the files that I ran thru TSMuxer (two versions again), directly from the full Bluray itself, to a movie-only 20 GB Bluray... and they both chapter navigate properly.

Not sure if any of this info helps, but wonder if something else is causing the issue somewhere between x264 and TSMuxer?

[worknstiff]

Not sure if this is helpful or not but when I did Watchman all the rips and reencodes that I tried would play great on computer but it was only after burning to disk and playing on my BD-30 that I had problems.

[DK]

I'm having the same "jump forward" issues with BD-9 - the picture freezes, sounds come out normal.

Will any log or inf help?

++++

Not sure if this is helpful or not but when I did Watchman all the rips and reencodes that I tried would play great on computer but it was only after burning to disk and playing on my BD-30 that I had problems.

Similar here: playing the title from HDD AND from DVD-DL with TMT3 the picture does NOT freeze.

[hudsucker]

Are you sure it`s encoding? Seems like it`s not necessary to encode and that the main movie file stays intact.


Hah! Good point. I should have noticed that. It has nothing to do with saturation -- it's staying the same size because it doesn't need to reencode and isn't doing so. There's no "wasted space" when you keep the original -- because no reencode is ever better than the original (ignoring filtering for cleanup).

@hudsucker
If you're determined to fill the disc at the expense of quality, you should be able to add:

FORCE_ENCODE=1

to the "[Options]" are of the INI and BD-RB will reencode anyway. I wouldn't recommend it, though.


Yes, I´m sure it went through the encoding process.

I should have mentioned that I always use TsMuxer before to check if the movie fits to BD-25 without encoding.

So the input size of 29.43 GB is the size of the movie with german audio only. I simply was surprised that the smallest reduction in size with best quality settings has always been below the BD-25 size of 23.2 GB. If it is because of `encoder saturation` of x264 it is ok because I know I will have the best possible quality. I just wanted to be sure to have not wasted any bit rate improvement. I use a projector with 100" screen size for viewing, so a maximum of quality is all I want on my BD-25.

Anyway, thanks for your comments, very much appreciated.

(Now I might add english audio to BD-25 without loss of video quality to fill up the disc to the maximum of 23.2GB)

[jdobbs]

I've run the movie only m2ts from Fighting through TSMuxer version that is in BD-RB v0.28.04, and will run the resulting Bluray files thru BD-RB tonite... will see if that makes a difference with the chapter navigational issue on this title.

Couple more tests I ran... I ran the BD-9 files that was output from BD-RB and was having navigational issues, thru TSMuxer (both an older version of TSMuxer and the version in BD-RB v0.28.04), and both resulting BD-9 files have proper chapter jumping capabilities now.
I also checked the files that I ran thru TSMuxer (two versions again), directly from the full Bluray itself, to a movie-only 20 GB Bluray... and they both chapter navigate properly.

Not sure if any of this info helps, but wonder if something else is causing the issue somewhere between x264 and TSMuxer?Can you send me the .META files from each of the two muxes (the one from BD-RB and from TSMUXER)? Obviously there is some difference and if I can see what it is I can fix it.

[jdobbs]

Yes, I´m sure it went through the encoding process.

I should have mentioned that I always use TsMuxer before to check if the movie fits to BD-25 without encoding.

So the input size of 29.43 GB is the size of the movie with german audio only. I simply was surprised that the smallest reduction in size with best quality settings has always been below the BD-25 size of 23.2 GB. If it is because of `encoder saturation` of x264 it is ok because I know I will have the best possible quality. I just wanted to be sure to have not wasted any bit rate improvement. I use a projector with 100" screen size for viewing, so a maximum of quality is all I want on my BD-25.

Anyway, thanks for your comments, very much appreciated.

(Now I might add english audio to BD-25 without loss of video quality to fill up the disc to the maximum of 23.2GB) So you're saying the source was preprocessed? Please, please, please don't use preprocessed sources with BD-RB. I can't guarantee anything nor can I accept bug reports on sources that have been "adjusted" before it gets to BD-RB. I have no idea what could have happened in the preprocessing, and a lot of people (not necessarily you) think they know a lot more about the standard than they really do. What I CAN be sure of is that TSMUXER can create a non-compliant source because it is powerful and lets people do whatever they want.

If you try TSMUXER first, that's fine... but if it doesn't fit -- don't use the TSMUXER output for BD-RB, point BD-RB to the original.

[jdobbs]

I've run the movie only m2ts from Fighting through TSMuxer version that is in BD-RB v0.28.04, and will run the resulting Bluray files thru BD-RB tonite... will see if that makes a difference with the chapter navigational issue on this title.

Couple more tests I ran... I ran the BD-9 files that was output from BD-RB and was having navigational issues, thru TSMuxer (both an older version of TSMuxer and the version in BD-RB v0.28.04), and both resulting BD-9 files have proper chapter jumping capabilities now.
I also checked the files that I ran thru TSMuxer (two versions again), directly from the full Bluray itself, to a movie-only 20 GB Bluray... and they both chapter navigate properly.

Not sure if any of this info helps, but wonder if something else is causing the issue somewhere between x264 and TSMuxer? I'm going to run WATCHMEN again today. I'll then try manually linking all the files through TSMUXER and see if I get a good result. If it works, then obviously BD-RB is doing something wrong.

[SuSELinux]

Hello,

it's some time ago i reencode some BD's. So i updated to version 28.04. I reencode 3 movies (movie only) in the batch Queue. All with german audio and german subtitles selected.
But all three movies have NO audio and NO subtitles. Have this anything to do with batch? I never had this problem before. (First time i use batch with the new version)

Anyone have a idea? Or did i something wrong?

Thanks!

[MikeyBK]

Can you send me the .META files from each of the two muxes (the one from BD-RB and from TSMUXER)? Obviously there is some difference and if I can see what it is I can fix it.

I'm going to run WATCHMEN again today. I'll then try manually linking all the files through TSMUXER and see if I get a good result. If it works, then obviously BD-RB is doing something wrong.

I don't have the Meta files from the the Bluray straight thru BD-RB anymore, I erased those workfiles (I'd have to run it again straight from the disc thru BD-RB later tonite)....and the TSMuxer output didn't create one.

But the TSMuxer movie-only output that I ran thru BD-RB last night came out fine with proper chapter navigation. Not sure if that info helps you any.
I'll save the meta from this TSMuxere-to-BD-RB job, and I'll run it straight from the Bluray again, then send you both sets of Meta files.... from the work folders right?

[Capsbackup]

I don't think it has anything to do with the BD-RB version... but I can say that I have the same problem with Watchmen (Region A) and I'm still trying to figure it out. I can do a complete backup and there are no issues, but if I do a movie-only, it will play fine as long as you don't jump chapters, but if you go a couple of chapter jumps into the film it locks and you only get sound.

I'm pretty sure it is a TSMUXER issue. Because the only thing I could imagine that would cause that is the CLPI file. If you look at the .META file used for muxing it looks correctly structured to me (but very long with lots of combined parts). I even removed the chaptering and used 5 minute defaults with no joy. On movie-only rebuilding, the TSMUXER output isn't modified after completion.

If the resulting files from the output from ClownBD, which uses tsMuxeR for the output of the new Blu-Ray, could be of benefit to you, I will run it again and provide it for you ( or you may wish to run it yourself to control the parameters better ).
The tsMuxeR version used with ClownBD is also 1.10.6.
This step did seem to correct the chapter advance issue.

[MikeyBK]

If the resulting files from the output from ClownBD, which uses tsMuxeR for the output of the new Blu-Ray, could be of benefit to you, I will run it again and provide it for you ( or you may wish to run it yourself to control the parameters better ).
The tsMuxeR version used with ClownBD is also 1.10.6.
This step did seem to correct the chapter advance issue.

ClownBD does not need to be involved at all IMHO... I used TSMuxer 1.10.6 on it's own, then ran that output thru BD-RB and it's all good.
Just gotta sort out why TSMuxer 1.10.6 doesn't remux correctly within BD-RB.

[Capsbackup]

ClownBD does not need to be involved at all IMHO... I used TSMuxer 1.10.6 on it's own, then ran that output thru BD-RB and it's all good.
Just gotta sort out why TSMuxer 1.10.6 doesn't remux correctly within BD-RB.

That is possible, but I did not try it that way. Besides, ClownBD also uses eac3to, so I wanted that known too, just in case jdobbs wants an additional way to test the output, in the outside chance the results were different.
I really hate even reporting to preprocessing, since I know the potential problems that can bring! But for this instance, and movie, this is what I did to make it work.
So the info is there, be it of value or not.
My intentions are not for jdobbs to spend any additional time on this method, but to disclose what seemed to work for this movie, and if there could be a discovery of some benefit to BD-RB, we all will benefit too. ;)

[jdobbs]

ClownBD does not need to be involved at all IMHO... I used TSMuxer 1.10.6 on it's own, then ran that output thru BD-RB and it's all good.
Just gotta sort out why TSMuxer 1.10.6 doesn't remux correctly within BD-RB. I just used TSMUXER on its own and it showed the exact same problem. I'm now burning in Blu-Ray format rather than AVCHD to see if that make a difference. Next I will use .264 files instead of MKV. Then I will try encoding using something other than "Fastest". Eventually I will find what TSMUXER is tripping over.

As I said earlier, BD-RB doesn't build the CLPI file for movie-only, it uses what is created by TSMUXER. In this case the problem has to be TSMUXER. All the fast-forwarding and chapter jumping is handled via tables in the CLPI. I'm looking for a workaround -- but I want to be clear... it HAS TO BE TSMUXER or it wouldn't happen when I take BD-RB out of the picture. Period, end of story, fact, absolute, no doubt, concrete, solid, positive, no room for debate.

The reason the ClownBD version worked is probably because it was combined (not building from multiple sources) when fed to BD-RB. You could probably do the same thing by running BD-RB twice on the same source, do movie-only and then use the movie-only output as source and do it again (I haven't tried it, but at some point I'm sure I will).

I'll work it out.

[MikeyBK]

I just used TSMUXER on its own and it showed the exact same problem. I'm now burning in Blu-Ray format rather than AVCHD to see if that make a difference. Next I will use .264 files instead of MKV. Then I will try encoding using something other than "Fastest". Eventually I will find what TSMUXER is tripping over.

As I said earlier, BD-RB doesn't build the CLPI file for movie-only, it uses what is created by TSMUXER. In this case the problem has to be TSMUXER. All the fast-forwarding and chapter jumping is handled via tables in the CLPI. I'm looking for a workaround -- but I want to be clear... it HAS TO BE TSMUXER or it wouldn't happen when I take BD-RB out of the picture. Period, end of story, fact, absolute, no doubt, concrete, solid, positive, no room for debate.

The reason the ClownBD version worked is probably because it was combined (not building from multiple sources) when fed to BD-RB. You could probably do the same thing by running BD-RB twice on the same source, do movie-only and then use the movie-only output as source and do it again (I haven't tried it, but at some point I'm sure I will).

I'll work it out.

One question about something else I kinda noticed... would the size of the playlist .mpls file have any impact on the chapter navigation? The reason I'm asking is that, from the two BD-9s I created... the first from the Bluray itself, and the second from the TSMuxered movie-only source.... the only difference is the size of the mpls file. Everything else seems exactly the same.
In fact, the other movie that I just experienced the issue out of the three, Dup[licity, also has a smaller than normal mpls file.
The only working movie out of the three, Adventureland, has the normal size mpls file...about 480 bytes. As does the TSMuxered version of Fighting (as has 'all' the other BD-9s I've made in the past with BD-RB), but the problemic copy of Fighting and Duplicity, both have only mpls sizes of 200 bytes or 186 bytes.

Not sure if that has anything to do with the TSMuxer issue, but just thought I'd mention it since it seems to be the only difference from the two BD-9's I made of Fighting, one that works properly and one that doesn't.

[jdobbs]

One question about something else I kinda noticed... would the size of the playlist .mpls file have any impact on the chapter navigation? The reason I'm asking is that, from the two BD-9s I created... the first from the Bluray itself, and the second from the TSMuxered movie-only source.... the only difference is the size of the mpls file. Everything else seems exactly the same.
In fact, the other movie that I just experienced the issue out of the three, Dup[licity, also has a smaller than normal mpls file.
The only working movie out of the three, Adventureland, has the normal size mpls file...about 480 bytes. As does the TSMuxered version of Fighting (as has 'all' the other BD-9s I've made in the past with BD-RB), but the problemic copy of Fighting and Duplicity, both have only mpls sizes of 200 bytes or 186 bytes.

Not sure if that has anything to do with the TSMuxer issue, but just thought I'd mention it since it seems to be the only difference from the two BD-9's I made of Fighting, one that works properly and one that doesn't. The MPLS does contain the PlayListMark table which defines at what point the chapters start (in terms of time) -- but the specific offset into the M2TS is stored in the CLPI. I also can't think of anything in the MPLS that would be related to FF/RW -- that's also in the CLPI.

Your MPLS is shorter because you don't have a lot of PlayItems anymore -- in Movie-Only you'll only have one as opposed to the 25 or so you might have in the original. There's all so additional information for the multiple angles in the original "WATCHMEN".

I did a compare of the MPLS and CLPI from the BD-RB directed mux and using TSMUXER alone. They were bit identical.

[MikeyBK]

Well I can confirm that swapping those mpls files had an impact on the respective BD-9s...

I took the 200 byte mpls file from the copy of Fighting that wasn't properly chapter jumping, and put it into the working copies Playlist folder, and now that copy had the same chapter navigation issue...
And the same vice versa... taking the 480 byte mpls from the working copies playlist folder and putting that into the other copies playlist folder in place of the smaller 200 byte mpls file, then made that BD-9 chapter navigate properly..

Hopefully that helps you narrow down what's going wrong with TSMuxer when it processed within BD-RB's call-up commands. Well, at least I hope that helps you some.... I wouldn't know, but thought it might be valuable info for you JD.

[jdobbs]

Well I can confirm that swapping those mpls files had an impact on the respective BD-9s...

I took the 200 byte mpls file from the copy of Fighting that wasn't properly chapter jumping, and put it into the working copies Playlist folder, and now that copy had the same chapter navigation issue...
And the same vice versa... taking the 480 byte mpls from the working copies playlist folder and putting that into the other copies playlist folder in place of the smaller 200 byte mpls file, then made that BD-9 chapter navigate properly..

Hopefully that helps you narrow down what's going wrong with TSMuxer when it processed within BD-RB's call-up commands. Well, at least I hope that helps you some.... I wouldn't know, but thought it might be valuable info for you JD. I wouldn't think you could just swap them -- but I guess if they were the same in every other way... by the way -- the MPLS is created by TSMUXER in Movie-Only mode also.

[MikeyBK]

Would sending you the CLPI and MPLS files of both working and non-working copies help you in any way?

I'll just attach it and you can look if it'd help.

[jdobbs]

Well I can confirm that swapping those mpls files had an impact on the respective BD-9s...

I took the 200 byte mpls file from the copy of Fighting that wasn't properly chapter jumping, and put it into the working copies Playlist folder, and now that copy had the same chapter navigation issue...
And the same vice versa... taking the 480 byte mpls from the working copies playlist folder and putting that into the other copies playlist folder in place of the smaller 200 byte mpls file, then made that BD-9 chapter navigate properly..

Hopefully that helps you narrow down what's going wrong with TSMuxer when it processed within BD-RB's call-up commands. Well, at least I hope that helps you some.... I wouldn't know, but thought it might be valuable info for you JD. I guess I should have checked this out earlier... you can't even jump through the M2TS file of WATCHMENT when playing it back in MPC. Since that doesn't use the CLPI or the MPLS, I guess the problem has to be in the M2TS. Weird.

[jdobbs]

Would sending you the CLPI and MPLS files of both working and non-working copies help you in any way?

I'll just attach it and you can look if it'd help. You never know.

[jdobbs]

@MikeyK

Did you use the "High-Speed Option (BD-25)" when you did "Fighting"?

[MikeyBK]

@MikeyK

Did you use the "High-Speed Option (BD-25)" when you did "Fighting"?

I used the High Quality/ Default setting to BD-9.

[jdobbs]

I used the High Quality/ Default setting to BD-9.Thanks. I found it. When you have multiple MKV intermediate files TSMUXER has problems merging them together into a single M2TS (at least on this disc). If I use the exact same X264 output as a .264 or .M2TS the problem goes away and the disc works fine.

I'll change the next version so it doesn't use MKVs for multipart movie-only multiplexing.

[MikeyBK]

Both Fighting and Duplicity are single m2ts movie-only files.... so didn't have the multipart multiplexing need as Watchmen did.
Not sure why these two Blurays had the issue, but will run Fighting again now, but won't get any results for 4-5 hours from now.... if you need, or I'll just wait til your next version instead.

[jdobbs]

Both Fighting and Duplicity are single m2ts movie-only files.... so didn't have the multipart multiplexing need as Watchmen did.
Not sure why these two Blurays had the issue, but will run Fighting again now, but won't get any results for 4-5 hours from now.... if you need, or I'll just wait til your next version instead. If that's the case, we may be chasing two different problems...

[Capsbackup]

Thanks. I found it. When you have multiple MKV intermediate files TSMUXER has problems merging them together into a single M2TS (at least on this disc). If I use the exact same X264 output as a .264 or .M2TS the problem goes away and the disc works fine.

I'll change the next version so it doesn't use MKVs for multipart movie-only multiplexing.

Good find! I believe I used BD-RB v0.25.04 on Watchmen when I experienced this problem. Was that version similar to this latest version regarding multiple MKV intermediate files?
I did a BD5 backup of Duplicity and it worked perfectly, no issues with this movie. FF/RW and chapter advance works fine.

[MikeyBK]

Good find! I believe I used BD-RB v0.25.04 on Watchmen when I experienced this problem. Was that version similar to this latest version regarding multiple MKV intermediate files?
I did a BD5 backup of Duplicity and it worked perfectly, no issues with this movie. FF/RW and chapter advance works fine.

US Region? Also how many bytes is your MPLS file (of the BD-5)? Could you ZIP up that mpls file from your BD-5 of Duplicity and I can test it with my BD-9?

I'm currently running Fighting again, just to save the working files from it.

[MikeyBK]

If that's the case, we may be chasing two different problems...

Possible, I'm not experiencing any stalling, just that the chapter forward command returns the movie back to the beginning on Fighting, and chapter foward does nothing on Duplicity.

[Capsbackup]

US Region? Also how many bytes is your MPLS file (of the BD-5)? Could you ZIP up that mpls file from your BD-5 of Duplicity and I can test it with my BD-9?

I'm currently running Fighting again, just to save the working files from it.

US Region A.
452 bytes

[MikeyBK]

US Region A.
452 bytes

Thanks Bro, my mpls file was only 186 bytes (200 bytes for the non-working Fighting). All the other outputs from BD-RB (all versions) has mpls files in that 450+ byte range... so I think that may have something to do with why these two BD-9s are having problems with chapter navigation.

[MikeyBK]

I just re-did Fighting again, but this time it cam out fine...with the mpls file being 466 bytes. This title does have 4 separate play lists, two for theatrical and two for extended.. I think I selected the different extended playlist than the one that didn't chapter jump correctly...

Strange... but I hope what you found in Watchmen will correct whatever was going wrong with my two... thanks JD....

[DaMacFunkin]

I havn't had a bug to report for a while ;-) ... but region b of 50 dead men walking has a bug with latest version, during full back up to BD25, some of the extras work fine, but some only play back with sound, no picture. I'm not sure what other info you need dudes so let me know.
Thanks.

[drmih]

I havn't had a bug to report for a while ;-) ... but region b of 50 dead men walking has a bug with latest version, during full back up to BD25, some of the extras work fine, but some only play back with sound, no picture. I'm not sure what other info you need dudes so let me know.
Thanks.

Are they actually blanked? There is a setting to treat field based sources via mkvmerge but if this is not the default then any sources will be blanked.

[drmih]

HI!
Thanks for the advice, point taken! But as stated its a bug report, and its not a pirated copy so I dont see the problem. In the future i will wait until the official release date to post any bug i may encounter, I'm sorry for wasting space in this issue.

I'll report back if the problem is still there on September 1st. Again sorry for the confusion!

I've also just had a quick look at Gladiator and it does seem to be fine on the original but bd-rb seems to have problems - as this may be something 'new' I thought I'd supply the information I gathered incase jdobbs can see anything obvious. Basically as soon as you open the directory you get an error (I have copied the error to the top of the log file). I did continue and the encoding process had no issues until the rebuild when it failed trying to integrate the files - the actual m2ts files created are all fine within the WORKFILES directory.

If you can see if this matches your findings it would help.

[DaMacFunkin]

Are they actually blanked? There is a setting to treat field based sources via mkvmerge but if this is not the default then any sources will be blanked.

Dunno m8, they don't show the "blank" image, just black screen.

[Kakashi Sensei]

I've also just had a quick look at Gladiator and it does seem to be fine on the original but bd-rb seems to have problems - as this may be something 'new' I thought I'd supply the information I gathered incase jdobbs can see anything obvious. Basically as soon as you open the directory you get an error (I have copied the error to the top of the log file). I did continue and the encoding process had no issues until the rebuild when it failed trying to integrate the files - the actual m2ts files created are all fine within the WORKFILES directory.

If you can see if this matches your findings it would help.

I honestly didn't want to cause anymore probs in the bug report. I didn't finish the encode as you stated it couldn't rebuild. I'm not sure why I'm getting the error as soon as it loads up the files. I did notice it didn't have an AUXDATA folder and added a blank one myself so it'll play in TMT3 or PowerDVD.

really thats the only thing i can tell other then that they didn't use 2 different M2TS files for regular/Extended cut. It seems all mixed up like a puzzle.

KS

[drmih]

I honestly didn't want to cause anymore probs in the bug report. I didn't finish the encode as you stated it couldn't rebuild. I'm not sure why I'm getting the error as soon as it loads up the files. I did notice it didn't have an AUXDATA folder and added a blank one myself so it'll play in TMT3 or PowerDVD.

really thats the only thing i can tell other then that they didn't use 2 different M2TS files for regular/Extended cut. It seems all mixed up like a puzzle.

KS

The disc is fine and plays fine in TMT3 once ripped to a pc HDD. The way they have done it is that rather than being the 'director's cut' this is the theatrical and extended versions - therefore there are just extra scenes put into the theatrical version. Rather than waste space (and theoretically quality) they have broken the original and extended scenes into individual m2ts files and then the playlist just picks up the required files so that you don't have any duplication. The encode that bd-rb did seems fine and the relevant m2ts files are redone and in the WORKFILES directory along with their clpi files.

It suprising as this has been done in conjunction with a new cinema release which is digitally remastered that the quality is perhaps not the best.

All I was asking was for you to confirm the same error codes as I have listed - once the attached file is approved.

[Kakashi Sensei]

The disc is fine and plays fine in TMT3 once ripped to a pc HDD. The way they have done it is that rather than being the 'director's cut' this is the theatrical and extended versions - therefore there are just extra scenes put into the theatrical version. Rather than waste space (and theoretically quality) they have broken the original and extended scenes into individual m2ts files and then the playlist just picks up the required files so that you don't have any duplication. The encode that bd-rb did seems fine and the relevant m2ts files are redone and in the WORKFILES directory along with their clpi files.

It suprising as this has been done in conjunction with a new cinema release which is digitally remastered that the quality is perhaps not the best.

All I was asking was for you to confirm the same error codes as I have listed - once the attached file is approved.
Yeah for sure! i dont mind at all. Sorry about that, little misunderstanding :P

[Furiousflea]

The disc is fine and plays fine in TMT3 once ripped to a pc HDD. The way they have done it is that rather than being the 'director's cut' this is the theatrical and extended versions - therefore there are just extra scenes put into the theatrical version. Rather than waste space (and theoretically quality) they have broken the original and extended scenes into individual m2ts files and then the playlist just picks up the required files so that you don't have any duplication. The encode that bd-rb did seems fine and the relevant m2ts files are redone and in the WORKFILES directory along with their clpi files.

It suprising as this has been done in conjunction with a new cinema release which is digitally remastered that the quality is perhaps not the best.

All I was asking was for you to confirm the same error codes as I have listed - once the attached file is approved.

There's nothing "new" going on, most "Director's Cut" discs use the method of having multiple m2ts with 1 playlist referencing extra scenes.

Director's Cut = Extended Cut ;) in 95% of cases. Sure there are some lazy discs with 2 seperate versions but that's the exception.

[drmih]

There's nothing "new" going on, most "Director's Cut" discs use the method of having multiple m2ts with 1 playlist referencing extra scenes.

Director's Cut = Extended Cut ;) in 95% of cases. Sure there are some lazy discs with 2 seperate versions but that's the exception.

The 'new' thing going on is that it causes a bug in bd-rb when it tries to scan the directory - this has been identified by at least two different sources - not the breakdown of the m2ts files which I was explaining for Kakashi Sensei's benefit. Please read the original post rather than jumping in half way on the wrong thing.

[Kakashi Sensei]

There's nothing "new" going on, most "Director's Cut" discs use the method of having multiple m2ts with 1 playlist referencing extra scenes.

Director's Cut = Extended Cut ;) in 95% of cases. Sure there are some lazy discs with 2 seperate versions but that's the exception.

LOL cool thats good to know, i guess its just "new" to me. All the other disc's I have were done that way, Coraline for 3d (i guess it had to be done that way) Golden Compass. Trust me i prefer the multiple nultiple M2TS way as it saves space for better video. I always wondered why they would do 2 of the same movie on one disc, guess it is lazy.

I'm new to BD Authoring but i'm not that new ;)

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi.

Win7 is really a pain in the ***. In MPC the WMVideo DMO Filter for m2ts with VC1 is loaded normally. Also Haali is loaded.

But not for AVS. There Haali is loaded but the script times out (if opened via x264 or MPC).

I tried alot of things suggested here or on other sites (I have not yet tried with other filters than WMVideo DMO, since it works with MPC)

If you could NOT overwrite the AVS file when an encode is started, when it already exists, we could prepare our own AVS scripts (for example with a working graph file).

Thx and best regards

[Furiousflea]

The 'new' thing going on is that it causes a bug in bd-rb when it tries to scan the directory - this has been identified by at least two different sources - not the breakdown of the m2ts files which I was explaining for Kakashi Sensei's benefit. Please read the original post rather than jumping in half way on the wrong thing.

Think you'll find I was the 1st person to report the problem with Gladiator last week ;)

The breakdown of the m2ts files is likely not the problem since BDRB has backed up similar discs with no problem in the past (King Kong for example uses this method). The problem most likely is an unintentional authoring error, the disc as a whole feels very badly made with "AUXDATA" folder missing etc.

edit - looks like your saying the same thing...sorry about that...there's me jumping the gun again.

[Furiousflea]

Hi.

Win7 is really a pain in the ***. In MPC the WMVideo DMO Filter for m2ts with VC1 is loaded normally. Also Haali is loaded.

But not for AVS. There Haali is loaded but the script times out (if opened via x264 or MPC).

I tried alot of things suggested here or on other sites (I have not yet tried with other filters than WMVideo DMO, since it works with MPC)

If you could NOT overwrite the AVS file when an encode is started, when it already exists, we could prepare our own AVS scripts (for example with a working graph file).

Thx and best regards

Not supported yet

[Kakashi Sensei]

Think you'll find I was the 1st person to report the problem with Gladiator last week ;)

The breakdown of the m2ts files is likely not the problem since BDRB has backed up similar discs with no problem in the past (King Kong for example uses this method). The problem most likely is an unintentional authoring error, the disc as a whole feels very badly made with "AUXDATA" folder missing etc.

edit - looks like your saying the same thing...sorry about that...there's me jumping the gun again.
Not meaning to go off topic but the funny thing is these are supposed to be "sapphire edition" releases from Paramount which they are boasting to have extra care taken to create the Blurays and have superior video quality, I think they missteped with this one. I'm dreading to see what they do with Braveheart and Forrest Gump :(

[GaPony]

Hi.

Win7 is really a pain in the ***. In MPC the WMVideo DMO Filter for m2ts with VC1 is loaded normally. Also Haali is loaded.

But not for AVS. There Haali is loaded but the script times out (if opened via x264 or MPC).

I tried alot of things suggested here or on other sites (I have not yet tried with other filters than WMVideo DMO, since it works with MPC)

If you could NOT overwrite the AVS file when an encode is started, when it already exists, we could prepare our own AVS scripts (for example with a working graph file).

Thx and best regards

If you use Windows 7, you probably use a dual boot system of some sort. Just put BD Rebuilder on your other system and wait for Win 7 to be supported after its official release.

It doesn't make alot of sense reporting problem with an OS that isn't supported at the moment and pre or post processing just eliminates any potential for jdobbs to even consider advising on the subject. It has absolutely nothing to do with bugs in BD Rebuilder... you're just out there on your own for now.

[Groucho2004]

It doesn't make alot of sense reporting problem with an OS that isn't supported at the moment

...and hasn't even been released yet! JDobbs should probably put a note in the first post listing the supported OS's. In bold. In the first paragraph. And even then some people will still ignore it, I guess.

[Chefkoch_ico]

...and hasn't even been released yet! JDobbs should probably put a note in the first post listing the supported OS's. In bold. In the first paragraph. And even then some people will still ignore it, I guess.

I know Win7 is not supported yet. Anyway its not a BD-RB problem, its in DirectShow. Thats why I decided to post it here and point out a way how an experienced user could make it work.

BD-RB itself works fine with Win7.

If you want to know, I have a MSDN account and I was able to get the final Version from there.

Its basically its the only problem I ran into when using this OS, so if jdobbs decides to support this OS somewhen its good to know, where the problems are.

Bye

[Groucho2004]

If you want to know, I have a MSDN account and I was able to get the final Version from there.

You're missing the point. Most people are using public betas or realease candidates of W7.

There are plenty of API changes in W7 which a developer has to consider. The fact that BD-RB works for you on W7 doesn't mean that it will behave the same way in all situations and configurations as it would on XP.

However, I suppose it would be helpful for jdobbs if someone who is actually running the RTM build of W7 reported problems with BD-RB for future reference.

[Furiousflea]

You're missing the point. Most people are using public betas or realease candidates of W7.

There are plenty of API changes in W7 which a developer has to consider. The fact that BD-RB works for you on W7 doesn't mean that it will behave the same way in all situations and configurations as it would on XP.

However, I suppose it would be helpful for jdobbs if someone who is actually running the RTM build of W7 reported problems with BD-RB for future reference.

Yep pretty much. I've been using the RTM for the past month with the usual problem of Windows 7 insisting on using it's own h264 decoder along with VC1 decoding not working because it's not supported outside of media player. With the known registry edit there are no problems at all using Windows 7 - But that's up to the user to sort out, like you say.

There really aren't any changes in Windows 7 that cause any serious issues that aren't resolvable with some pretty basic meddling that is fully documented.

Although I'm with you in that this isn't jdobbs problem and really wish the ignorant (no offense) would at least do a bit of googleing to sort out the issue themselves. It's just plain annoying, it just appears lazy really.

[Imperial Zeppelin]

BD-RB has locked up 3X on this in the same spot. I used AnyDVD HD to rip to disc. I tried 2X with new rips from one disc and then got another disc and ripped that. All locked up at the same point.

I have been successful backing up multiple BD-25s including the 1st 2 Pirate BDs as well as BD-5s with this setup so it's not hardware/drivers/software.

Anyone got any ideas?

Here's the log:

[05:03:00] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES3
- Input BD size: 41.93 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:05:16.980]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[05:03:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [05:03:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [05:15:38] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 14)
- [14:07:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:07:31] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 14)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[14:07:33] - Failed video encode, aborted

Here's the INF file:
[Status]
LABEL=PIRATES3
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45025676366
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=44407148544
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.529165257136849
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
COMPLETED=1
[00001]
AUDIO=1100
PGS=10000
M2TS_TARGET=21956407025
RATE=7910
NSIZE=20763838464
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=19507
RATE=500

[GaPony]

Beta v.23.04 is the current version. You might try using that.

I copied all the POTC movies back in January or February (Movie Only to BD9), so it must be a setting someplace.

Did you happen to try restarting the process (resume)?

[Furiousflea]

More than likely just a case of the m2ts being too small to be encoded properly...look through changes.txt for how to set the minimum m2ts size to encode.

I've done all 3 POTC films on BD25 with no issues.

[setarip_old]

I'm sure "GaPony" meant v.28.04 and not v.23.04 ;>}

[Imperial Zeppelin]

v.28.03 and the previous version did puke on it. I'll try 28.04, but I'm not holding by breath. I'm wondering if an older version may be the ticket. I may also try movie only if I can't get past this impasse...

Yes, I've tried resuming when getting the error and it immediately errors again.

[Capsbackup]

Anyone got any ideas?



VID_00002.m2ts is a 0.04 MB blank clip, and is part of the .mpls of VID_00001.m2ts, so BD-RB wants to reencode it to make sure it is compliant. I don't believe you can set MIN_M2TS_SIZE for this instance.
I thought this problem was corrected. :confused:
You should not have a problem with movie only.
You might try the High-Speed Option, One Pass (CRF) Encoding, and "Quicker" Encode for Extras with BD-RBV02804, just in case it does not work again you will find this out quicker. :(

[Imperial Zeppelin]

28.04 puked too so the problem has not been resolved. Will try Movie Only I guess, but will give One Pass a shot first...

Thanks Folks!

UPDATE: The One Pass / High Speed / Quicker Encode for Extras worked fine. I'll try the INI suggestion listed below and report back.

[Capsbackup]

28.04 puked too so the problem has not been resolved. Will try Movie Only I guess, but will give One Pass a shot first...

Thanks Folks!

I don't know if this will have any benefit, but others have reported doing full movie backups to BD-25 successfully before, and as of v0.22.01, BD-RB did make this change:
( BD-RB now uses the MKV intermediate file format as
the default for rebuilds. If for some reason you
wish to force the use of .264 files as the default
(as in prior BD-RB releases) add this switch to
the config (.INI) file: "MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0")
So you could test "MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0".
Probably will have no consequence, but worth a shot.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Hi!

Regarding "Watchmen", you said,I'm pretty sure it is a TSMUXER issue.That may not be the case. If you read my post #4863 to this thread, you'll see that by using "MakeMKV" to rip the 44 chapter, no subs movie-only (Which is actually bigger in filesize than the so-called "Director's Cut" video, which contains only 13 chapters, while covering close to the same running time as the movie-only) and using "tsMuxeR" (v.1.10.6) to convert to a BluRay "package", you'll have a perfectly performing (Chapter jumps and all) "package" containing a 27.4Gb M2TS file ready to be processed by BD-RB ;>}

Since it's obvious that the movie-only and the Director's Cut share some A/V data (Otherwise the disc would be over 60Gb in total combined filesize, including extras), the difficulties being encountered may have to do with this.

BTW - I'd suggest you watch the "Director's Cut", as I believe it uses "unusual" techniques for using this "shared" data.

[Race Guy]

Just did a full "HQ/fast on extras", v28.04 backup to BD-25 of "Live From Abbey Road".

All the "functions" work perfectly on the BU. The issue is the quality of the video. The flick is a BBC TV show, done using hand held & robotic cameras, so there's a LOT of "pans & zooms". It's a VERY "nervous" production!

Watching the BU on my Oppo, when they do certain pans, there's a "stutter" to the video. It's VERY distracting! When the camera is steady or zooming, it's beautiful, indistinguishable from the original.

It seems to happen the most on medium speed pans. It's almost like a "strobe" effect. The camera starts moving, the picture "defocuses" with "motion blur", then it seems to freeze & snap into focus for a frame or two, then it defocuses, etc...., etc. It's hard to gauge timing between "stutters", 'cause the pans don't last very long, but I'd guess 4 to 5 times per second. It is NOT a good look, I'd even go so far as to say it's "unwatchable"! If I spin my original, there's no hint of it.

I'd guess it's an x264 issue, but since it's part of the "package" I'd say it's DEFINITELY a bug! According to the Oppo's info, it calls the video "AVC BDMV" @ 29.97fps.

Any thoughts on how to eliminate the stutter?

[drmih]

Just did a full "HQ/fast on extras", v28.04 backup to BD-25 of "Live From Abbey Road".

All the "functions" work perfectly on the BU. The issue is the quality of the video. The flick is a BBC TV show, done using hand held & robotic cameras, so there's a LOT of "pans & zooms". It's a VERY "nervous" production!

Watching the BU on my Oppo, when they do certain pans, there's a "stutter" to the video. It's VERY distracting! When the camera is steady or zooming, it's beautiful, indistinguishable from the original.

It seems to happen the most on medium speed pans. It's almost like a "strobe" effect. The camera starts moving, the picture "defocuses" with "motion blur", then it seems to freeze & snap into focus for a frame or two, then it defocuses, etc...., etc. It's hard to gauge timing between "stutters", 'cause the pans don't last very long, but I'd guess 4 to 5 times per second. It is NOT a good look, I'd even go so far as to say it's "unwatchable"! If I spin my original, there's no hint of it.

I'd guess it's an x264 issue, but since it's part of the "package" I'd say it's DEFINITELY a bug! According to the Oppo's info, it calls the video "AVC BDMV" @ 29.97fps.

Any thoughts on how to eliminate the stutter?

When you look at the stream info in bd-rb are there asterisks against some of the video streams? I have found that the BBC Blu-Ray discs require the use of mkvmerge (before that the vc-1 tweak was the only solution). I thought it was me being over-sensitive but I have seen something similar in BBC discs I've done.

[MikeyBK]

Just experieinced the same chapter navigation issue with the Bluray State of Play... playlist mpls is only 186 bytes and I can't navigate forward at all.

[worknstiff]

I just did same movie and it's weird because it does not have the multiple m2ts files that Watchmen has. I noticed that it does let me FF and when attempting to Chapter skip it just throws up a Operation Disabled message and continues to play. Before it gave no message and either froze or jumped to the beginning. I did a Movie Only BD9 and used Default Quality with Higher AVCH compatability checked. Guess I will try the Clown_BD solution first and redo in BD_RBLD and see if it helps.

[By-Tor]

28.04 puked too so the problem has not been resolved. Will try Movie Only I guess, but will give One Pass a shot first...

Thanks Folks!

UPDATE: The One Pass / High Speed / Quicker Encode for Extras worked fine. I'll try the INI suggestion listed below and report back.

I've had this problem a couple of months ago and was advised by DK to use dvdfab hd decrypter and this worked on all three films
i had this problem using anydvd hd so i hope this helps you;)

[Capsbackup]

Just experieinced the same chapter navigation issue with the Bluray State of Play... playlist mpls is only 186 bytes and I can't navigate forward at all.

I just did same movie and it's weird because it does not have the multiple m2ts files that Watchmen has. I noticed that it does let me FF and when attempting to Chapter skip it just throws up a Operation Disabled message and continues to play. Before it gave no message and either froze or jumped to the beginning. I did a Movie Only BD9 and used Default Quality with Higher AVCH compatability checked. Guess I will try the Clown_BD solution first and redo in BD_RBLD and see if it helps.

I had NO problems with this disc, FF/RW and chapter advance work perfectly. Movie only to BD-5.
Did you both use the default playlist that BD-RB selects?
There are three playlists: two that are 2:07:08 (00000.mpls & 00001.mpls ) and one that is 2:07:01 ( 01056.mpls )
BD-RB defaults to 01056.mpls. This playlist has only 1 chapter. Playlist 00000.mpls has 21 chapters. Playlist 00001.mpls has 2 chapters.
Playlist 00000.mpls and 00001.mpls brings up two .m2ts files (00010.m2ts and 00083.m2ts) to reencode.
Playlist 01056.mpls brings up only one .m2ts (00010.m2ts).
I selected playlist 00000.mpls.
MikeyBK, my playlist is 466 bytes.

[worknstiff]

Hi, Capsbackup, I am really going to have to start looking at the other alternative playlists. I had no idea that this movie was split up so many ways. How do you find out how many chapters that a specific playlist has? Do you just always try Clown_BD or do you have another way to check? When I play it in a DVD player it shows chapters but not the playlist it is playing from. thanks for the info! :D

[Capsbackup]

I first look at BD-RB and check the alternative playlist options. Then just use tsMuxeR and open the .mpls file, not the .m2ts file. You can then click the chapter tab in tsMuxeR and see what it displays for chapters.
You can also use BDInfo for the available options/.mpls/.m2ts files.
I have only used ClownBD on a few movies, since normally BD-RB does just fine. Also, if I use ClownBD first, I would never report a bug if things dont work properly. ( Preprocessing )

[Race Guy]

When you look at the stream info in bd-rb are there asterisks against some of the video streams? I have found that the BBC Blu-Ray discs require the use of mkvmerge (before that the vc-1 tweak was the only solution). I thought it was me being over-sensitive but I have seen something similar in BBC discs I've done.

If you mean the log drmih, there's nothing out of the ordinary there.

The disc has 2 "parts" which means there's two separate, m2ts files, probably 17GB each. I can "grab" either of those 2 files with tsMuxeR & build it into a BD-25. If I burn & play that, it's SMOOTH as BUTTER, so it's not the de/remux.

I'm thinking "BBC stuff" was originally shot "PAL" & it was then converted to NTSC (25 to 29.97fps??). Now you mess with it with x264, & it makes your SAP go HAYWIRE!

I'm gonna ask Oppo what would make the vid stutter so bad.

[MikeyBK]

I had NO problems with this disc, FF/RW and chapter advance work perfectly. Movie only to BD-5.
Did you both use the default playlist that BD-RB selects?
There are three playlists: two that are 2:07:08 (00000.mpls & 00001.mpls ) and one that is 2:07:01 ( 01056.mpls )
BD-RB defaults to 01056.mpls. This playlist has only 1 chapter. Playlist 00000.mpls has 21 chapters. Playlist 00001.mpls has 2 chapters.
Playlist 00000.mpls and 00001.mpls brings up two .m2ts files (00010.m2ts and 00083.m2ts) to reencode.
Playlist 01056.mpls brings up only one .m2ts (00010.m2ts).
I selected playlist 00000.mpls.
MikeyBK, my playlist is 466 bytes.

Yes, I did check 1056.mpls because I did not want the MPAA message... but did not realize they'd throw a BS playlist with screwed up playlists... seems like something they are doing on purpose to throw off copying programs?>?

I guess we need to definately pay attention to make sure we check to see if they are placing BS playlists in there on purpose.

Thanks Bro, will be on my toes for sure now.;):sly:

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Regarding the hidden "trigger" code for HDDVD compliance that you added in 0.28.04 (instead of directly entering the two lines of code), you said only the following:- Added a specialized hidden setting that is meant for special circumstances. "HDDVD_COMPLIANT=1" in the "[Options]" area of the INI will force certain parameters to be used and will limit bitrate to that legal for HD-DVD playback. Note: This does NOT mean you can playback your output on an HD-DVD player. It only means the stream will be encoded
in a way that is compliant for certain post BD-RB software packages to use it in creating HD-DVDs. If selecting this option with BD-25, it is likely you will undersize due to bitrate constraints.

It might be worthwhile to reiterate that this will only function properly if two-pass modes are selected (Selecting ANY one-pass mode [including "One pass CRF encoding"] will negate this function).

[MikeyBK]

I had NO problems with this disc, FF/RW and chapter advance work perfectly. Movie only to BD-5.
Did you both use the default playlist that BD-RB selects?
There are three playlists: two that are 2:07:08 (00000.mpls & 00001.mpls ) and one that is 2:07:01 ( 01056.mpls )
BD-RB defaults to 01056.mpls. This playlist has only 1 chapter. Playlist 00000.mpls has 21 chapters. Playlist 00001.mpls has 2 chapters.
Playlist 00000.mpls and 00001.mpls brings up two .m2ts files (00010.m2ts and 00083.m2ts) to reencode.
Playlist 01056.mpls brings up only one .m2ts (00010.m2ts).
I selected playlist 00000.mpls.
MikeyBK, my playlist is 466 bytes.

Yes, I did check 1056.mpls because I did not want the MPAA message... but did not realize they'd throw a BS playlist with screwed up playlists... seems like something they are doing on purpose to throw off copying programs?>?

I guess we need to definately pay attention to make sure we check to see if they are placing BS playlists in there on purpose.

Thanks Bro, will be on my toes for sure now.;):sly:

Thanks Caps, I TSMuxed the 00000 playlist and took the 466 byte mpls file from that output, and replaced the 186 byte mpls in the BDRB BD-9... and it now plays perfect... So an easy fix since BD-RB & x264 already did a superb job on the encoding, just had to get the new mpls from TSMuxer using the 00000 playlist...;)

[leChameleon]

WINDOWS XP PRO 32-BIT
FDDSHOW=VC-1 disabled (using WMV11 instead of WMV9).
Ripped using ANYDVD HD 6.5.7.4

*.LOG
-------------------------------------------
[09:17:44] BD Rebuilder v0.26.03 (beta)
- Source: SPY_GAME
- Input BD size: 32.46 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:06:38.591]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[09:17:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:17:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [09:28:48] Collecting video information [00010]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 182,184 frames
- Bitrate: 18,793 Kbs
- [09:28:48] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:14:37] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:13:07] Video Encode complete
- [21:13:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:13:07] Multiplexing M2TS
[21:20:27]PHASE ONE complete
[21:20:27]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:20:27] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[21:30:17] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[21:30:17]JOB: SPY_GAME finished.

*.INI
-------------------------------------------
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\TEMP - SPY GAME (2001)\SPY_GAME\
WORKING_PATH=K:\BD25 4\SPY GAME (2001)\


Question:
Even when "MOVIE ONLY" is selected shouldn't BD-RB output a CERTIFICATE folder and it's contents?
It only output the K:\Bd25 4\Spy Game (2001)\SPY_GAME\BDMV.

It was my understanding that a Blu-ray disc requires the CERTIFICATE folder and contents as well, no?

[MikeyBK]

Just experieinced the same chapter navigation issue with the Bluray State of Play... playlist mpls is only 186 bytes and I can't navigate forward at all.

I had NO problems with this disc, FF/RW and chapter advance work perfectly. Movie only to BD-5.
Did you both use the default playlist that BD-RB selects?
There are three playlists: two that are 2:07:08 (00000.mpls & 00001.mpls ) and one that is 2:07:01 ( 01056.mpls )
BD-RB defaults to 01056.mpls. This playlist has only 1 chapter. Playlist 00000.mpls has 21 chapters. Playlist 00001.mpls has 2 chapters.
Playlist 00000.mpls and 00001.mpls brings up two .m2ts files (00010.m2ts and 00083.m2ts) to reencode.
Playlist 01056.mpls brings up only one .m2ts (00010.m2ts).
I selected playlist 00000.mpls.
MikeyBK, my playlist is 466 bytes.

I just checked Fighting and it also has four playlists, with two playlists, one extended and one theatrical, that has only two chapters....while the other two, one extended and one theatrical, that has the full array of chapters.
This seems to be a new tactic or method they are using. All so far have been VC-1.

Hopefully this is welcome info for JD. It appears that BD-RB, 'and' TSMuxer was indeed doing their jobs, just the extra bogus playlists seem to be what's causing the chapter navigation issues.

[GaPony]

It was my understanding that a Blu-ray disc requires the CERTIFICATE folder and contents as well, no?

BD-Rebuilder doesn't create a CERTIFICATE, BDMV\AUXDATA, BDMV\META, BDMV\JAR, or BDMV\BDJO folders when you enable (check the block) for "Strict compliance with AVCHD for Movie Only Copies"

You created an AVCHD disc, not a Blu-Ray disc. If you want the \CERTIFICATE folder, either uncheck the block, or enable ImgBurn to create it.

Its been discussed a dozen times in this thread...

[drmih]

If you mean the log drmih, there's nothing out of the ordinary there.

The disc has 2 "parts" which means there's two separate, m2ts files, probably 17GB each. I can "grab" either of those 2 files with tsMuxeR & build it into a BD-25. If I burn & play that, it's SMOOTH as BUTTER, so it's not the de/remux.

I'm thinking "BBC stuff" was originally shot "PAL" & it was then converted to NTSC (25 to 29.97fps??). Now you mess with it with x264, & it makes your SAP go HAYWIRE!

I'm gonna ask Oppo what would make the vid stutter so bad.

Not in the Log. If you select your source and then chose the 'Stream' tab, it shows all of the parts it is going to encode. If there are asterisks against any of the video streams then it will be using mkvmerge.

[leChameleon]

BD-Rebuilder doesn't create a CERTIFICATE, BDMV\AUXDATA, BDMV\META, BDMV\JAR, or BDMV\BDJO folders when you enable (check the block) for "Strict compliance with AVCHD for Movie Only Copies"

You created an AVCHD disc, not a Blu-Ray disc. If you want the \CERTIFICATE folder, either uncheck the block, or enable ImgBurn to create it.

Its been discussed a dozen times in this thread...Hi GaPony, Thank you for your comment. I guess what was not clear to me was it the output was set to BD25 then BD-RB would result in blu-ray however if BD-9 was selected then AVCHD would be the result. i.e. One could enable "Strict..." in the Settings and depending on the output size then it would take affect or not.

Perhaps at some point it may be advantagous to document this more clearly and post/print it in the setup/help files.

[worknstiff]

I just checked Fighting and it also has four playlists, with two playlists, one extended and one theatrical, that has only two chapters....while the other two, one extended and one theatrical, that has the full array of chapters.
This seems to be a new tactic or method they are using. All so far have been VC-1.

Hopefully this is welcome info for JD. It appears that BD-RB, 'and' TSMuxer was indeed doing their jobs, just the extra bogus playlists seem to be what's causing the chapter navigation issues.

GREAT CATCH, MikeyBK & Capsbackup, Finally I know what is going on with these titles that caused a big reject stack on my desk. WOW! I hate to waste even one and lately I have wasted a lotof them. I will preview from now on. Adding 15 minutes of prep time on the front end is better than wasting 10 hours on the back. Thanks Again! Congrats to Both of You & Jdobbs too. :thanks:

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Regarding the hidden "trigger" code for HDDVD compliance that you added in 0.28.04 (instead of directly entering the two lines of code), you said only the following:

It might be worthwhile to reiterate that this will only function properly if two-pass modes are selected (Selecting ANY one-pass mode [including "One pass CRF encoding"] will negate this function). Hmmm... I'll go back and look at it and correct it to work with single pass modes (if possible).

[GaPony]

Hi GaPony, Thank you for your comment. I guess what was not clear to me was it the output was set to BD25 then BD-RB would result in blu-ray however if BD-9 was selected then AVCHD would be the result. i.e. One could enable "Strict..." in the Settings and depending on the output size then it would take affect or not.

Perhaps at some point it may be advantagous to document this more clearly and post/print it in the setup/help files.

Documentation? You got documentation? Real men never read that stuff. :D

The best thing you can do is search this thread for whatever it is you're looking for. You may have to use a few different keywords, and several searches, but eventually you'll find what you need.

Given the early development of the program, I'm sure jdobbs would rather concentrate on stability and functionality, than on writing documentation and specs, at the moment. Which makes alot of sense, since there's always a huge possibility that fundemental changes will occur.

[jdobbs]

I just checked Fighting and it also has four playlists, with two playlists, one extended and one theatrical, that has only two chapters....while the other two, one extended and one theatrical, that has the full array of chapters.
This seems to be a new tactic or method they are using. All so far have been VC-1.

Hopefully this is welcome info for JD. It appears that BD-RB, 'and' TSMuxer was indeed doing their jobs, just the extra bogus playlists seem to be what's causing the chapter navigation issues. I'll pick up a copy of "Fighting" and do some investigating. Maybe I can programmatically pick this out and save the manual labor...

By the way, this is very definitely not related to the issue I found in WATCHMEN. It only has two choices, the movie and the commentary.

[leChameleon]

Documentation? You got documentation? Real men never read that stuff. :D

The best thing you can do is search this thread for whatever it is you're looking for. You may have to use a few different keywords, and several searches, but eventually you'll find what you need.

Given the early development of the program, I'm sure jdobbs would rather concentrate on stability and functionality, than on writing documentation and specs, at the moment. Which makes alot of sense, since there's always a huge possibility that fundemental changes will occur.Based on the result it would appear that the BD25 iso I made and played in a Sony BDP-350 shows that it is not AVCHD format it is BD format. When I ran the same test and burned a DVD9 dvd that shows the AVCHD format.

So either there is a bug that if [x] Strict... is set and either output size should be AVCHD format as you say then its not being encoded that way. Otherwise if you're incorrect and only when the DVD9 size is selected then it will encode AVCHD, and when BD25 is selected it will disregard the setting and output blu-ray format.

[jdobbs]

Based on the result it would appear that the BD25 iso I made and played in a Sony BDP-350 shows that it is not AVCHD format it is BD format. When I ran the same test and burned a DVD9 dvd that shows the AVCHD format.

So either there is a bug that if [x] Strict... is set and either output size should be AVCHD format as you say then its not being encoded that way. Otherwise if you're incorrect and only when the DVD9 size is selected then it will encode AVCHD, and when BD25 is selected it will disregard the setting and output blu-ray format. Please take this kind of irrelevent stuff to another thread, ok? It's not a bug, and that has been explained to you.

Your player says that because of the disc type (BD-25) -- Sony players are notorious for being wrong. Hell, my player can't even make up its mind between two discs of the same type. BTW -- this has also been discussed further back in this thread.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Regarding HD-DVD compatibility:Hmmm... I'll go back and look at it and correct it to work with single pass modes (if possible).Although that would be wonderful, in my personal opinion, don't take time away from your efforts regarding "real" bugs. Considering what I presume will be the limited usage of this particular capability, I'd suggest that rather than spending your time trying to enhance it, you simply have your program generate an "informational popup notice" if someone attempts to select both a one pass mode and the HDDVD compatibility "trigger"...

[drmih]

@jdobbs

Did you get chance to look at those Gladiator files as I wonder if it's the same problematic playlists as on 'Fighting'?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Did you get chance to look at those Gladiator files as I wonder if it's the same problematic playlists as on 'Fighting'?

I was putting that one off until the commercial release (which was Tuesday) -- but have been real busy with the paying job the last few days and haven't had time to work it as yet.

[pbeumer2001]

With the latest build I found that I have mayer undersize. Last disc I did was Children of Men. Output was 15 GB. Target was set at 24166 MB.

[bobodude]

JDOBBS

Have been using your wonderful program for some time with little problems. Thank you very much. I have run into a movie that stops your program in its tracks. I tried shrinking The Last Starfighter and it failed. It didn't work on a early version 22 so I got your latest and it still didn't work. Here's the log

-----------------------
[15:25:02] BD Rebuilder v0.28.04 (beta)
- Source: LASTSTARFIGHTER
- Input BD size: 24.21 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:40:34.186]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[15:25:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:25:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:37:18] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [15:37:18] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 144,676 frames
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [15:37:18] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[15:37:21] - Failed video encode, aborted

I have it set to a BD-25 and most everything else is default. Any ideas?

[jdobbs]

With the latest build I found that I have mayer undersize. Last disc I did was Children of Men. Output was 15 GB. Target was set at 24166 MB. If you want to get it corrected I need something to work with. Throw me a bone here. I have no idea what your settings were, I have no idea what mode you were in, I have no idea if it was two pass or one pass, no idea if it is a movie-only or full backup, no identification of the disc being worked... just that there was an undersize. For all I know the source was also 15GB and it was a perfect backup...

I like to think I'm pretty good at most of this backup stuff, but reading minds isn't something I do well.

[Capsbackup]

@ bobodude;
What OS are you using?
This movie appears to be VC-1. What are your ffdshow settings?
Do you have WMP11 installed?

[jdobbs]

To all those who reported issues with Gladator:

I bought this disc today and I cannot repeat the error reported (ScanDirectory() 00052). Somebody please tell me what you have to do to cause it -- because it sure seems to be ok to me... with the reports of bad quality (but to be honest I haven't even watched it yet) I'd hate to think I threw my money away...

[sebishow]

for GLADIAOR : The movie release on NG...is a bad rip...i have use TSMUXER with playlist mode for correct the error frame then i was able to bd rebuilder..with no problme...

[PurpleMan]

To all those who reported issues with Gladator:

I bought this disc today and I cannot repeat the error reported (ScanDirectory() 00052). Somebody please tell me what you have to do to cause it -- because it sure seems to be ok to me... with the reports of bad quality (but to be honest I haven't even watched it yet) I'd hate to think I threw my money away...

I was extremely excited when they announced that Gladiator release and I immediately pre-ordered it. Unfortunately, I was just too anxious to watch it so I, indeed, downloaded the complete disc ISO off usenet, thinking there's no harm in that since I bought it anyway (no flame wars please).

It played fine, but BD-RB gave that error we've discussed. The original disc arrived yesterday, so I was curious and compared the folders looking for something wrong with the downloaded ISO, and indeed I found that there was a file in the BACKUP\BDJO directory with an illegal character in its name. As soon as I've removed it, the error disappeared.

I did a complete backup of the ORIGINAL (self-ripped) disc today and it finished flawlessly. So I can conclude that there's nothing wrong with BD-RB (perhaps just needs better error messages?)

I didn't mention that it's a downloaded release because I know it's wrong and didn't want to violate forum rules. However, I was under the impression that even if the disc is bad and processed, BD-RB should still manage to read the directory so I thought it's a bug to report (was really only trying to help the software development).

I sincerely apologize, lesson learned.

[Kakashi Sensei]

To all those who reported issues with Gladator:

I bought this disc today and I cannot repeat the error reported (ScanDirectory() 00052). Somebody please tell me what you have to do to cause it -- because it sure seems to be ok to me... with the reports of bad quality (but to be honest I haven't even watched it yet) I'd hate to think I threw my money away...
What did you use to rip? AnyDVD HD? or DVD FAB HD? I'll rip mine again and see what happens.. Damn sorry if it was a bad rip :S

[jdobbs]

AnyDVD v6.5.7.4

[jdobbs]

I was extremely excited when they announced that Gladiator release and I immediately pre-ordered it. Unfortunately, I was just too anxious to watch it so I, indeed, downloaded the complete disc ISO off usenet, thinking there's no harm in that since I bought it anyway (no flame wars please).

It played fine, but BD-RB gave that error we've discussed. The original disc arrived yesterday, so I was curious and compared the folders looking for something wrong with the downloaded ISO, and indeed I found that there was a file in the BACKUP\BDJO directory with an illegal character in its name. As soon as I've removed it, the error disappeared.

I did a complete backup of the ORIGINAL (self-ripped) disc today and it finished flawlessly. So I can conclude that there's nothing wrong with BD-RB (perhaps just needs better error messages?)

I didn't mention that it's a downloaded release because I know it's wrong and didn't want to violate forum rules. However, I was under the impression that even if the disc is bad and processed, BD-RB should still manage to read the directory so I thought it's a bug to report (was really only trying to help the software development).

I sincerely apologize, lesson learned. Thanks for the honest answer. You make a good point. What I need to do is change that section of BD-RB so that it announces it found a bad filename and continues rather than just aborting. But of course on the other hand, how many "what should be impossible" situations can BD-RB reasonably be expected to compensate for? Illegal filenames with restricted characters shouldn't exist on a file system.

Thanks.

[laserfan]

I was extremely excited when they announced that Gladiator release and I immediately pre-ordered it. Unfortunately, I was just too anxious to watch it so I, indeed, downloaded the complete disc ISO off usenet... I did a complete backup of the ORIGINAL (self-ripped) disc today and it finished flawlessly. So I can conclude that there's nothing wrong with BD-RBIt's amusing to go-back thru this thread and see how many members have (illegally, of course) downloaded the defective iso (and reported/confirmed the "bug" in BD-RB)! :devil:

There are thieves everywhere, so I don't worry too much about them, but gobbling-up of 'net bandwidth for monster files like this is another matter entirely... :(

[jdobbs]

It's amusing to go-back thru this thread and see how many members have (illegally, of course) downloaded the defective iso (and reported/confirmed the "bug" in BD-RB)! :devil:

There are thieves everywhere, so I don't worry too much about them, but gobbling-up of 'net bandwidth for monster files like this is another matter entirely... :( Let's not go there...

Back to bug reports.

[PurpleMan]

Thanks for the honest answer. You make a good point. What I need to do is change that section of BD-RB so that it announces it found a bad filename and continues rather than just aborting. But of course on the other hand, how many "what should be impossible" situations can BD-RB reasonably be expected to compensate for? Illegal filenames with restricted characters shouldn't exist on a file system.

Thanks.

I'm not exactly sure it's an illegal filename on the filesystem, but the char was definitely not an English letter.

Windows had no problem copying/reading/writing the file, so I'm guessing it's legal in the NTFS file system.

While I do agree that BD-RB should not be expected to compensate for "next to impossible" situations, if it's a matter of adding 3 lines of code to give a proper error message for that situation, then why not? it might assist in preventing bogus bug reports in the future, or help diagnose a real bug should one occur. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work!

[jdobbs]

Agreed.

But let me expand my response a little further... the error is coming from the operating system. I ask for the next directory entry, and it says "here you go", I then ask for the attributes of that directory entry, and it say "that directory doesn't exist" -- so you can see why I didn't put an error capture there.

[bobodude]

@ bobodude;
What OS are you using?
This movie appears to be VC-1. What are your ffdshow settings?
Do you have WMP11 installed?

I am using XP pro. I checked FFDshow settings and found VC-1 disabled with WM ver 9. I have been burning BD's for months and this has never come up but I may have not shrunk a VC-1 in some time. Does WMP 11 have the codec I need?

Thanks

[jdobbs]

I am using XP pro. I checked FFDshow settings and found VC-1 disabled with WM ver 9. I have been burning BD's for months and this has never come up but I may have not shrunk a VC-1 in some time. Does WMP 11 have the codec I need?

Thanks Yes. WMV9 works for most, but I've found that there are certain conditions where it doesn't. After you install WMV11 make sure VC-1 is "Disabled" in FFDSHOW so the WMV11 codec will be used.

BTW, this information is listed in the "what you need to do to make it work" section of the first post of this thread.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

It looks like McAfee is at it again!

I've been using v.0.28.04, without incident since its release.

During the processing of a BluRay, the executable of v.0.28.04 was deleted/"Quarantined" for supposedly containing an "Artemis!2EA64543AD3E" trojan.

Of course, downloading the 0.28.04 zip again was useless, as McAfee deletes the executable from that when you unzip it (or scan it).

[pbeumer2001]

If you want to get it corrected I need something to work with. Throw me a bone here. I have no idea what your settings were, I have no idea what mode you were in, I have no idea if it was two pass or one pass, no idea if it is a movie-only or full backup, no identification of the disc being worked... just that there was an undersize. For all I know the source was also 15GB and it was a perfect backup...

I like to think I'm pretty good at most of this backup stuff, but reading minds isn't something I do well.

Your right I`m sorry.

Full Backup 2 pass encode. Original disc 40GB. I allready deleted the inf and log file. Next time I`ll save them fur sure.

I allready did a backup using the same settings in version 28.03 and that came out perfectly.

[Race Guy]

Not in the Log. If you select your source and then chose the 'Stream' tab, it shows all of the parts it is going to encode. If there are asterisks against any of the video streams then it will be using mkvmerge.

Nothing out of the ordinary in "Streams".

Both of the main titles are: "MPEG-4 (AVC) 1920x1080i 29.97fps"

See ya!

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

It looks like McAfee is at it again!

I've been using v.0.28.04, without incident since its release.

During the processing of a BluRay, the executable of v.0.28.04 was deleted/"Quarantined" for supposedly containing an "Artemis!2EA64543AD3E" trojan.

Of course, downloading the 0.28.04 zip again was useless, as McAfee deletes the executable from that when you unzip it (or scan it). You're going to have to deal with McAfee on that one. I can't keep responding to their ridiculous Artemis engine.

By the way Artemisxxxx isn't actually even a real name for a trojan -- it is just a name their truly screwed up Artemis engine inserts when it's "heuristic" reasoning decides to BUFU another program. Version 0.28.04 doesn't even have the same protection/compression software in use that was causing this false positive before.

I've been using McAfee for a long time now -- and this is the first time I've made this comment: GARBAGE. When your virus software becomes more of a pain than the viruses it is supposed to protect you from, it's time to sh*tcan it.

By the way MY MCAFEE, WHICH WAS UPDATED TODAY DOESN'T FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH V0.28.4. I scanned it about 5 minutes ago. There's consistency for you.

[bobodude]

Yes. WMV9 works for most, but I've found that there are certain conditions where it doesn't. After you install WMV11 make sure VC-1 is "Disabled" in FFDSHOW so the WMV11 codec will be used.

BTW, this information is listed in the "what you need to do to make it work" section of the first post of this thread.

I uploaded WMV11, installed and rebooted. FFDshow showed the VC-1 still disabled and BdRebuilder still failed to encode the video. I went and uploaded the latest FFDshow and it then showed the VC-1 enabled under WMV9 and it is now encoding Last Starfighter.
My FFDshow must have gotten corrupted somehow. On the next one I will try and disable WMV9 and see if the WMV11 will take its place. Strange.. Thanks for your help.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbsBy the way Artemisxxxx isn't really even a real name for a trojanThanks for that insight.

Based on this, I've just removed from quarantine and reinstated the executable. I'll see if it holds up okay. If it gets quarantined again, I'll definitely communicate this to our "friends and protectors" at McAfee ;>}

[jdobbs]

I uploaded WMV11, installed and rebooted. FFDshow showed the VC-1 still disabled and BdRebuilder still failed to encode the video. I went and uploaded the latest FFDshow and it then showed the VC-1 enabled under WMV9 and it is now encoding Last Starfighter.
My FFDshow must have gotten corrupted somehow. On the next one I will try and disable WMV9 and see if the WMV11 will take its place. Strange.. Thanks for your help. I'm sure it will work. Did you also update HAALI in the process? That one seems to be easily corrupted when certain codec packs and other packages are "user friendly" enough to replace it without telling you.

When I get BD-RB beyond the beta stage I'll create an installer that will make sure all the required components are there and up-to-date.

[Capsbackup]

I'm sure it will work. Did you also update HAALI in the process? That one seems to be easily corrupted when certain codec packs and other packages are "user friendly" enough to replace it without telling you.

When I get BD-RB beyond the beta stage I'll create an installer that will make sure all the required components are there and up-to-date.

This will be great! Too bad you may have to put up with more of these improper "set-ups" for now. :p
Of course, if more people would :search:, and :readfaq:, you may avoid most of these so called "bugs". :)

[jdobbs]

I just checked Fighting and it also has four playlists, with two playlists, one extended and one theatrical, that has only two chapters....while the other two, one extended and one theatrical, that has the full array of chapters.
This seems to be a new tactic or method they are using. All so far have been VC-1.

Hopefully this is welcome info for JD. It appears that BD-RB, 'and' TSMuxer was indeed doing their jobs, just the extra bogus playlists seem to be what's causing the chapter navigation issues. I picked up a copy of "Fighting" and I'm looking at this. I see what you are saying -- but I don't get the issue with this one. BD-RB (at least on my computer) picks the correct playlist anyway (00002.mpls)?

[Chiamos]

AnyDVD v6.5.7.4

Latest version v6.5.7.8.(beta)
Nice improvements with each new one.:cool:

[PurpleMan]

Okay, I'm seriously going insane here, you have to help me.

I did a full backup of Batman Begins to BD25, the backup works flawlessly. So I take a look at the 00000.m2ts and I see that it's size is 13,950,455,808 bytes. All is nice and well.

I then look at the WORKFILES folder of the rip, and I found the file VID_00000.AVS.MKV (which according to the MUX_00000.META file was used for the muxing).

So VID_00000.AVS.MKV's size is 11,100,012,151 bytes. I used mkvextract to isolate only the h264 stream, and I got roughly the same size (not much overhead for MKV).

Now here's the kicker: when I use tsmuxer to demux the 00000.m2ts file of bd-rb's output, no matter what I do the main demuxed video track (00000.track_4113.264) is only 8,608,006,257 bytes (!!!) out of the 13,950,455,808 bytes which are the m2ts. So I figured maybe the audio/subs have something to do with this, so I demuxed the entire thing, and the demuxed files totalled in ~11gb. still 2gb short, and I doubt m2ts has a 2gb overhead.

Now here's the kicker #2: the demuxed 8,608,006,257 bytes file indeed contains the entire movie! I indexed it using dgavcindex and browsed through it, it contains the entire thing. So I muxed all the demuxed file back into a "new" 00000.m2ts file, and it's 2gb smaller than the one I started with!

So to sum things up:

* BD-RB used VID_00000.AVS.MKV (11,100,012,151 bytes) to build its 00000.m2ts output (which indeed plays and contains the entire movie).
* Demuxing the 00000.m2ts output video track results in 8,608,006,257 bytes file which is completely playable and contains the entire movie!
* Remuxing it back (with all the audio and tracks) results in an m2ts file 2gb smaller than the one bd-rb produced, USING THE SAME FILES!

What the hell am I missing here?!

[update]
if I just load the bd-rb outputted 00000.m2ts file in tsmuxergui, choose m2ts output and click go, it results in an m2ts file of the same size (13,xxx,xxx,xxx bytes), but if I demux everything and remux (even if I use the bd-rb mux meta file) I get a 11,xxx,xxx,xxx bytes file.

I just can't figure out what is going on here!

[MikeyBK]

I picked up a copy of "Fighting" and I'm looking at this. I see what you are saying -- but I don't get the issue with this one. BD-RB (at least on my computer) picks the correct playlist anyway (00002.mpls)?

Yeah, we basically figured out that BD-RB, as well as TSMuxer did their jobs... it was just that I picked the extended version playlist (00001.mpls) which just happened to be one that had only one chapter. Had I picked 00000.mpls, that extended version playlist would have had the proper amount of chapters (which explains why it came out fine when I last redid it)...I must've picked the proper extended version playlist.

Anyways, I'll alsop check State of Play and Matrix to see if BD-RB correctly chooses the proper playlist. Just curious if all the extra playlists are inserted just to be aggravating to us...lol

EDIT: On the State of Play Bluray, BD-RB defaults in selecting playlist 01056.mpls... which happens to have no chapters at all.
As for The Matrix... BD-RB selects playlist 00052, which is only 4.2 GBs, despite it saying that it is 2 hours and 5 minutes long (Basically a behind the scenes vid in 480i). Do you think this is sort of along the lines of bogus playlists? (EDIT-2: Just wanted to add that it is indeed a 2 hour 5 minute behind the scene video, all in 480i)

[Furiousflea]

Yeah, we basically figured out that BD-RB, as well as TSMuxer did their jobs... it was just that I picked the extended version playlist (00001.mpls) which just happened to be one that had only one chapter. Had I picked 00000.mpls, that extended version playlist would have had the proper amount of chapters (which explains why it came out fine when I last redid it)...I must've picked the proper extended version playlist.

Anyways, I'll alsop check State of Play and Matrix to see if BD-RB correctly chooses the proper playlist. Just curious if all the extra playlists are inserted just to be aggravating to us...lol

EDIT: On the State of Play Bluray, BD-RB defaults in selecting playlist 01056.mpls... which happens to have no chapters at all.
As for The Matrix... BD-RB selects playlist 00052, which is only 4.2 GBs, despite it saying that it is 2 hours and 5 minutes long (Basically a behind the scenes vid in 480i). Do you think this is sort of along the lines of bogus playlists? (EDIT-2: Just wanted to add that it is indeed a 2 hour 5 minute behind the scene video, all in 480i)

The Matrix one isn't, it's a genuine documentary...

Personally I don't believe there is any release out yet with intentional bogus playlists apart from one and that is "Goodfellas" it is padded out to be over a BD25 with 2 copies of all the extras but the "spare" copy contains no audio track.

I've noticed on some older catalogue Universal discs that there is often 25-30 audio tracks for any given extra when the disc only actually makes use of 1 of those.

Whether this is some kind of effort to make backups use more space and deteriorate backup video quality is beyond me though...I'm leaning towards human error as they are all a bunch of douchebags at those companies that master the discs and quite honestly most discs show that they don't really know what they're doing and prolly just didn't bother tidying up as they go through their workflow.

[vcarter]

To all those who reported issues with Gladator:

I bought this disc today and I cannot repeat the error reported (ScanDirectory() 00052)

for GLADIAOR : The movie release on NG...is a bad rip

original blu-ray+any dvd hd=blu-ray on NG

may be that's only anydvd which corrupts the files and give an error in bd rb.

I sincerely apologize, lesson learned.

sorry too.

I'd hate to think I threw my money away...


you mean you buy problematic blu-ray to give us a perfect bd-rb?you're really a great man.

[jdobbs]

original blu-ray+any dvd hd=blu-ray on NG

may be that's only anydvd which corrupts the files and give an error in bd rb.



sorry too.



you mean you buy problematic blu-ray to give us a perfect bd-rb?you're really a great man. That's pretty much the purpose of the donations. But don't give me too much credit -- I like that movie and probably wouldn't have been able to resist buying it anyway.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the download link in the first post of this thread to a new version of BD-RB (v0.29.01). Changes included in this update are:

- Added a new "One-Pass ABR Mode" selection to the
"Encoder Settings" menu. This will perform the
encode at the quality level you've selected but
will use one-pass ABR encoding. Generally this
mode results in lower quality than two pass mode
with the same quality setting, but it is faster.
Aimed primarily for use on BD-25 encodings.
- Added code to CRF estimation routine that reduces
the probability of oversizing. CRF prediction is
never exact, but this should make it less inexact.
- Rewrote routine to find X264 window handle. This
fixes the possibility that BD-RB might incorrectly
report the status of another concurrently running
X264 process. It also should fix the "GUI Issue,
no hWnd returned" error that seems to randomly
occur on certain systems. Thanks to Groucho2004.
- Changed the X264 command lines for all encoding
modes to implement the new "--slices" parameter.
This enables the software to ensure 100% compliance
with the BD standard -- even on this unique rule
that has not been enforced on any currently known
playback system.
- Implemented a workaround for a bug in TSMUXER in
which it doesn't properly multiplex multiple MKV
files into a movie-only M2TS stream. This should
fix issues with chapter jumps and FF/RW on certain
sources.
- Made a change to the Movie-Only selection criteria
to avoid selecting "low chapter" MPLS files when
more standard chapter counts are available. Also
added an indicator in the Playlist selection dialog
that shows how many chapters each MPLS contains.
- Added code to ScanDirectory() to prevent crash if
an illegal filename is encounterd (error 00052).
- Updated X264 version to most recent (r1247) which
includes speed improvements, new options and small
bug fixes.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[bassnut]

Cool ....... Great work Jdobbs. Love this program.

[PurpleMan]

jdobbs, could you offer your opinion on the weird issue I'm experiencing? (a few posts back)

Thank you.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, could you offer your opinion on the weird issue I'm experiencing? (a few posts back)

Thank you. I'd like to -- but it doesn't make any sense to me either...

[MikeyBK]

- Made a change to the Movie-Only selection criteria
to avoid selecting "low chapter" MPLS files when
more standard chapter counts are available. Also
added an indicator in the Playlist selection dialog
that shows how many chapters each MPLS contains.
Thanks Bro, that was fast! I'll test it out on those Blurays.


EDIT: Just to report back...Fighting and State of Play detected and showed the chapter counts perfectly. But Matrix and Matrix Reloaded both show higher than actual chapter counts...Matrix shows playlists with 195 chapters and Reloaded with 221 chapters, not sure why.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4563/reloadedchapterlist.th.png (http://img117.imageshack.us/i/reloadedchapterlist.png/)
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/805/matrixchapterlist.th.png (http://img117.imageshack.us/i/matrixchapterlist.png/)

[Capsbackup]

IMO, on these multi playlist movies, I think it may be just as easy, and to be certain, to do a quick check with the original disc in the PC's BD drive or a standalone, start the movie, change chapters and advance to the end of the movie, making note of the chapter count. Then for movie only backups, there will be less confusion with these multiple playlists movies that are being displayed.
Does The Matrix have ILVU, similar to the white rabbit on the DVD, that may account for this high chapter count playlist?

[jdobbs]

Thanks Bro, that was fast! I'll test it out on those Blurays.


EDIT: Just to report back...Fighting and State of Play detected and showed the chapter counts perfectly. But Matrix and Matrix Reloaded both show higher than actual chapter counts...Matrix shows playlists with 195 chapters and Reloaded with 221 chapters, not sure why.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4563/reloadedchapterlist.th.png (http://img117.imageshack.us/i/reloadedchapterlist.png/)
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/805/matrixchapterlist.th.png (http://img117.imageshack.us/i/matrixchapterlist.png/)I'm actually showing the number of Playlist Marks in the MPLS -- typically chapters. I could have looked at the mark type and got it exact, but I didn't feel like scanning the table for it since it's only informational. I guess I could call it "Marks" instead of chapters. It's only reporting what it finds... I noticed, though, with Matrix that is still selects the correct MPLS (with 34 chapters).

[Edit] I was just lazy... I'll add a loop that looks at the mark type so it accurately reflects chapters.

[Capsbackup]

I'm actually showing the number of Playlist Marks in the MPLS -- typically chapters. I could have looked at the mark type and got it exact, but I didn't feel like scanning the table for it since it's only informational. I guess I could call it "Marks" instead of chapters. It's only reporting what it finds... I noticed, though, with Matrix that is still selects the correct MPLS (with 34 chapters).

[Edit] I was just lazy... I'll add a loop that looks at the mark type so it accurately reflects chapters.

I made a full backup of Gladiator to BD-25, and it works and looks as good as the original. Another successful backup!
Now I am testing a movie only backup to BD-9 with BD-RBV02901, and I notice that there are two alternate playlists for the two versions of this movie, with 28 chapters for each. BD-RB selects 00013.mpls ( 2:50:58 ) Just for comparison, if I open ClownBD, it only sees/offers one playlist for each version of this movie. ( 00010.mpls - 2:50:59 ; 00011.mpls - 2:35:01 )
Interesting that BD-RB selects a playlist that is not even available with ClownBD.
Could this be the "mark type" you are referring to?
I'm not sure ClownBD has chosen correctly, maybe both would work fine, but I did want to share this just in case it has value.

[MikeyBK]

I'm actually showing the number of Playlist Marks in the MPLS -- typically chapters. I could have looked at the mark type and got it exact, but I didn't feel like scanning the table for it since it's only informational. I guess I could call it "Marks" instead of chapters. It's only reporting what it finds... I noticed, though, with Matrix that is still selects the correct MPLS (with 34 chapters).

[Edit] I was just lazy... I'll add a loop that looks at the mark type so it accurately reflects chapters.

I see, so it's seeing 195 'marks' which might not necessarily reflect chapter marks... OK I understand now, wouldn't have known that otherwise...lol

Anyways, as for The Matrix, that 34 chapter default selection is actually that 4 GB documentary I (and FuriousFlea) was mentioning, and it is actually the full 2 hours long, and 34 chapters, but just in 480i.
Probably not too many Blurays will have that long of added content anyways. The chapter indicators added in the Alternative Playlists menu is a great plus, we should be able to figure it out even if there are a couple weird numbers showing... Thanks

[jdobbs]

IMO, on these multi playlist movies, I think it may be just as easy, and to be certain, to do a quick check with the original disc in the PC's BD drive or a standalone, start the movie, change chapters and advance to the end of the movie, making note of the chapter count. Then for movie only backups, there will be less confusion with these multiple playlists movies that are being displayed.
Does The Matrix have ILVU, similar to the white rabbit on the DVD, that may account for this high chapter count playlist? Already fixed it. As I said, I used the PlayMark count which matches chapters most of the time. In "The Matrix" there were a lot more. I just put a quick loop in that looks at all the PlayMarks and only counts the ones that are marked as chapter entry points.

[jdobbs]

I see, so it's seeing 195 'marks' which might not necessarily reflect chapter marks... OK I understand now, wouldn't have known that otherwise...lol

Anyways, as for The Matrix, that 34 chapter default selection is actually that 4 GB documentary I (and FuriousFlea) was mentioning, and it is actually the full 2 hours long, and 34 chapters, but just in 480i.
Probably not too many Blurays will have that long of added content anyways. The chapter indicators added in the Alternative Playlists menu is a great plus, we should be able to figure it out even if there are a couple weird numbers showing... Thanks Hmmm... I guess I can add another check that only selects HD content... I'd like to get it to a point that people don't even have to even look at the selection. It can never be perfect -- but I'd like it to be right somewhere around 99% of the time.

[kanerulz69]

so in the new beta which would be better quality output the One Pass (CRF) or the One Pass (ABR) ? also Is one faster than the other?

[jdobbs]

so in the new beta which would be better quality output the One Pass (CRF) or the One Pass (ABR) ? also Is one faster than the other? That's a little tough, because it's not a one-to-one comparison. But when using them in BD-RB, generally CRF will give better quality at the same filesize. The rub is, that the filesize in CRF is a little unpredictable. CRF can sometimes not be accurate in sizing (it undersizes/oversizes occasionally and you may have to start over if it oversizes, for example). ABR will give sizing accuracy but lower quality (at the same size). What you have to consider, though, is that on some sources (expecially movie-only BD-25 backups) the bitrate is so high that it really doesn't matter.

I just added it so people have the option and can decide for themselves. I think they're probably about the same speed, but I really haven't done any testing.

[kanerulz69]

That's a little tough, because it's not a one-to-one comparison. But when using them in BD-RB, generally CRF will give better quality at the same filesize. The rub is, that the filesize in CRF is a little unpredictable. CRF can sometimes not be accurate in sizing (it undersizes/oversizes occasionally and you may have to start over if it oversizes, for example). ABR will give sizing accuracy but lower quality (at the same size). What you have to consider, though, is that on some sources (expecially movie-only BD-25 backups) ABR the bitrate is so high that it really doesn't matter.

I just added it so people have the option and can decide for themselves. I think they're probably about the same speed, but I really haven't done any testing.

i always do full bd-r25 back ups no movie only, so your saying if i have the time to spare i should just leave the one pass alone then if im worried about quality and would rather have it done right the first time go round right?

[jdobbs]

i always do full bd-r25 back ups no movie only, so your saying if i have the time to spare i should just leave the one pass alone then if im worried about quality and would rather have it done right the first time go round right? If time isn't a consideration -- the highest quality at a given bitrate/size comes from a standard two-pass encode. X264 actually has the ability to do even more passes... but after two it becomes placebo pretty fast.

[Shuttle99]

Just running 29.01 and it's progress bar stopped at 50% but appears that it's still running according to the CPU. Is there anyway to tell the progress if it the progress bar stops.

[jdobbs]

Just running 29.01 and it's progress bar stopped at 50% but appears that it's still running according to the CPU. Is there anyway to tell the progress if it the progress bar stops.
How long has it been at 50%?

If you open the Task Manager you should see X264 running under PROCESSES.

Have you seen a message in the log that says "GUI issue, no hWnd returned"? If not, then it isn't that the progress bar isn't updating, it means it just happens to be going slow right now and if you give it some time it will update.

No matter what, if X264 stops, BD-RB will tell you and retry...