BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[drmih]

That film doesn't come out here in the US until Tues, Dec 14th. I'll test it then. Can you post your BDREBUILDER.INI contents so I can try to reencode with the same settings as you and see if I can repeat it?

Also, can you post the INF file and LOG for your encode? I'm fumbling in the dark when I don't have any logs to work with.

It doesn't come out here until tomorrow but it just arrived yesterday. Unfortunately I deleted the rip on the HDD when everything seemed fine so I never checked the original in case there was a ripping error which caused the problem. However, here's the INF, which is the only file left as I've done another disc in the same directory today. The main problem M2TS is 00122.

[Status]
LABEL=SALT
VERSION=v0.36.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=48025667448
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=47943561216
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.17395570934803
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=72
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4377739
RATE=1559
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27648000
NSIZE=4386816
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=28843271
RATE=2207
NSIZE=29097984
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00011]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=52094664
RATE=1652
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30273120
NSIZE=52752384
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00021]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=61989
RATE=211
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27044640
NSIZE=43008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00022]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=182762
RATE=203
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27135360
NSIZE=122880
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00081]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=20564471
RATE=2547
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29700823
NSIZE=19279872
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00101]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=21883350
RATE=3647
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28899360
NSIZE=21510144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00104]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=22061837
RATE=3678
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28899360
NSIZE=21694464
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00105]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=103835560
RATE=1313
NSTART=27000000
NEND=48844800
NSIZE=105320448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00106]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=161165127
RATE=1314
NSTART=27000000
NEND=60899040
NSIZE=163282944
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00107]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=69840751
RATE=1315
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41695200
NSIZE=70993920
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00108]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=118957783
RATE=1313
NSTART=27000000
NEND=52018560
NSIZE=120637440
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00109]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=93274907
RATE=1305
NSTART=27000000
NEND=46569600
NSIZE=94476288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00110]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=382251623
RATE=1316
NSTART=27000000
NEND=107455680
NSIZE=387317760
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00111]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=386715933
RATE=1475
NSTART=27000000
NEND=100467360
NSIZE=389683200
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00113]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=24755172
RATE=2123
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28491840
NSIZE=24440832
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00114]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=463923812
RATE=1647
NSTART=27000000
NEND=55565760
NSIZE=466544640
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00115]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=50838843
RATE=1161
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30199680
NSIZE=51025920
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00116]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=194755936
RATE=1295
NSTART=27000000
NEND=40083360
NSIZE=196614144
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00117]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=14242614
RATE=1693
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27930720
NSIZE=14573568
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00118]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=368294374
RATE=1713
NSTART=27000000
NEND=49358880
NSIZE=370120704
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00119]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=14037407
RATE=984
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27861120
NSIZE=14309376
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00120]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=107555997
RATE=1452
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33642240
NSIZE=108085248
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00121]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=45161463
RATE=1347
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29739840
NSIZE=45594624
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00122]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=286164746
RATE=455
NSTART=27000000
NEND=46168320
NSIZE=290555904
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00123]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=19263761
RATE=1718
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28259040
NSIZE=19433472
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00124]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=155453546
RATE=1744
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36513600
NSIZE=156241920
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00125]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=51599817
RATE=1621
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30244800
NSIZE=52162560
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00126]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=315775403
RATE=996
NSTART=27000000
NEND=48555840
NSIZE=318547968
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00127]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=87941675
RATE=1083
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32296320
NSIZE=88719360
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00128]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=82976105
RATE=887
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31902240
NSIZE=83798016
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00129]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=78960684
RATE=1615
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31859040
NSIZE=79417344
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00130]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=118174365
RATE=1429
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34154400
NSIZE=118917120
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00131]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=192785098
RATE=1727
NSTART=27000000
NEND=39563520
NSIZE=194052096
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00132]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=181788381
RATE=1635
NSTART=27000000
NEND=38488320
NSIZE=182943744
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00133]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=28681884
RATE=1934
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28790400
NSIZE=28182528
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00134]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=302292695
RATE=1765
NSTART=27000000
NEND=45571200
NSIZE=303833088
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00135]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=55088327
RATE=1749
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30560160
NSIZE=55246848
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00136]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=120659287
RATE=1774
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34738080
NSIZE=121368576
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00137]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=59994045
RATE=1672
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30931680
NSIZE=60463104
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00138]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=86650584
RATE=1882
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32224800
NSIZE=87281664
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00139]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=651935721
RATE=1090
NSTART=27000000
NEND=72024000
NSIZE=657733632
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00140]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=31415833
RATE=3652
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29723040
NSIZE=30935040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00143]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=38159860
RATE=1989
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29359200
NSIZE=38135808
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00144]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=56041683
RATE=1433
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30648480
NSIZE=56150016
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00145]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=23259944
RATE=1647
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28536960
NSIZE=23629824
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00146]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=13963661
RATE=1671
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27921120
NSIZE=14260224
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00147]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=74302924
RATE=1724
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31819680
NSIZE=74526720
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00148]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=26441713
RATE=2020
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28632480
NSIZE=26677248
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00149]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=68926941
RATE=1731
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31457280
NSIZE=69537792
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00150]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=119405604
RATE=1758
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34689120
NSIZE=119881728
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00151]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=74714406
RATE=1769
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31808160
NSIZE=75122688
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00152]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=228746470
RATE=1739
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41872320
NSIZE=230160384
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00153]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=141716467
RATE=1689
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36296160
NSIZE=142706688
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00154]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=29674784
RATE=1941
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28850400
NSIZE=29190144
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00155]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=53735247
RATE=1722
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30490560
NSIZE=53895168
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00156]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=55026338
RATE=1757
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30551040
NSIZE=55191552
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00157]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=59961982
RATE=1670
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30931680
NSIZE=60426240
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00158]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=32934575
RATE=1717
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29141280
NSIZE=33232896
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00159]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=655443470
RATE=1201
NSTART=27000000
NEND=72731520
NSIZE=660897792
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00160]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=663181465
RATE=1524
NSTART=27000000
NEND=71943360
NSIZE=667109376
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00162]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=26287808
RATE=2939
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29793600
NSIZE=26413056
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00163]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=55142835
RATE=2285
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33189120
NSIZE=54325248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00164]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=60205665
RATE=2469
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33363360
NSIZE=59357184
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00165]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6345370
RATE=2737
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27720000
NSIZE=6672384
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00166]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=13314910
RATE=2879
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28442880
NSIZE=13375488
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00167]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=42205207
RATE=2469
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31461120
NSIZE=41527296
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00168]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6746164
RATE=2739
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27764640
NSIZE=6844416
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00169]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6919307
RATE=2815
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27764640
NSIZE=7176192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00170]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=32895030
RATE=2395
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30559680
NSIZE=32415744
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00205]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=2060615
RATE=3062
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27223348
NSIZE=2009088
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[04999]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=15016413
RATE=3719
NSIZE=14757888
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1


This is the INI file for the next disc but I didn't change any settings.


[Options]
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
FULL_AVCHD=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=11000
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
VERSION=0.36.0.6
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\BD-FILES\

[jdobbs]

[00122]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=286164746
RATE=455
NSTART=27000000
NEND=46168320
NSIZE=290555904
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
Wow. You only have "English" selected -- but there are 8 of 11 audio tracks kept? That's unusual -- and probably the source of the issue. This appears to be a fairly small target -- but with all the audio tracks there is only 455Kbs left for the video.

I look forward to testing this one on Tuesday.

[drmih]

Wow. You only have "English" selected -- but there are 8 of 11 audio tracks kept? That's unusual -- and probably the source of the issue. This appears to be a fairly small target -- but with all the audio tracks there is only 455Kbs left for the video (17% of the file's original size).

I look forward to testing this one on Tuesday.

But the same applies to every chapter / part of the movie and they are okay and typically 3 to 4 time the bitrate. I would normally have ditched some of the audio tracks but with the movie made up by over 100 or so files, and wanting to keep the director's commentary, I just decided to keep everything. I have now found the log and here's the relevant bit:


-----------------------
[00:18:26] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: SALT
- Input BD size: 44.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:34:45.001]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[00:18:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:18:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [00:18:29] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 72)
- [00:18:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 346 frames
- Bitrate: 1,559 Kbs
- [00:18:29] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:18:36] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:18:47] Video Encode complete
- [00:18:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:18:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:18:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [00:18:51] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 72)
- [00:18:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,326 frames
- Bitrate: 2,207 Kbs
............................................
- [04:37:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00121]
- [04:37:19] Reencoding: VID_00121 (24 of 72)
- [04:37:19] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:37:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,460 frames
- Bitrate: 1,347 Kbs
- [04:37:24] Reencoding: VID_00121, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:38:22] Reencoding: VID_00121, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:39:41] Video Encode complete
- [04:39:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:39:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:39:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00122]
- [04:41:09] Reencoding: VID_00122 (25 of 72)
- [04:41:09] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:41:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,213 frames
- Bitrate: 455 Kbs
- [04:41:41] Reencoding: VID_00122, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:47:17] Reencoding: VID_00122, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:54:54] Video Encode complete
- [04:54:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:54:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:55:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [04:55:09] Reencoding: VID_00123 (26 of 72)
- [04:55:09] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:55:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 671 frames
- Bitrate: 1,718 Kbs
- [04:55:10] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:55:33] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:56:10] Video Encode complete
- [04:56:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:56:10] Multiplexing M2TS
.......................................................
[10:07:55]PHASE ONE complete
[10:07:55]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:07:55] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:08:19] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[10:08:20]JOB: SALT finished.

[jdobbs]

That means that the original had used very little bitrate for that segment, as a proportional reduction ended up with a super small bitrate. I wonder if this is something done purposely, making a single segment be encoded at a significantly lower bitrate, but enough to get by without notice on the original? Hmmm....

[drmih]

Interestingly, this segment is the main action / car chase / explosion part of the movie.

[omegaman7]

That means that the original had used very little bitrate for that segment, as a proportional reduction ended up with a super small bitrate. I wonder if this is something done purposely, making a single segment be encoded at a significantly lower bitrate, but enough to get by without notice on the original? Hmmm....

LOL! I've often wondered that about some dvds. Which is why its best to use CCE/Dvd rebuilder over transcoders ;)

[jdobbs]

Interestingly, this segment is the main action / car chase / explosion part of the movie. And it's not like it's negligible -- it's 7 minutes long...

I have an idea as to how I might distribute available bitrate differently... I'll do some testing.

[jdobbs]

Interestingly, this segment is the main action / car chase / explosion part of the movie. How much total time does BD Rebuilder say is on the disc (in hours, minutes, and seconds)?

[drmih]

According to the log file above 04:34:45.001

[KeVe1983]

How much total time does BD Rebuilder say is on the disc (in hours, minutes, and seconds)?

So i've a question.

Yesterday i did a encode of the earth Documantation.
If i set output to BD25 BD RB says a total Runtime of 3 Hours 56 Minutes. If i set the output to BD9 there is a total Runtime of 4 Hours 26 Minutes

Why?

[Capsbackup]

So i've a question.

Yesterday i did a encode of the earth Documantation.
If i set output to BD25 BD RB says a total Runtime of 3 Hours 56 Minutes. If i set the output to BD9 there is a total Runtime of 4 Hours 26 Minutes

Why?

For BD-25 backups, not all files need to be reencoded. They meet the standard for Blu-ray.
For AVCHD, they need to be compliant for the standard for bitrate, audio, etc...

[omegaman7]

For BD-25 backups, not all files need to be reencoded. They meet the standard for Blu-ray.
For AVCHD, they need to be compliant for the standard for bitrate, audio, etc...
Which raises an interesting question. At least to me :p
Could one create a BD-25 AVCHD compliant disk? Or would a blu ray player get confused by that currently? I guess what I'm curious about is, having hours and hours of video on a BD-25 that looks near lossless. Perhaps not lossless, but very agreeable and sharp!

[jdobbs]

Argghh... It was in your post... ok, I'm a little slow sometimes.

Four and a half hours is a lot to fit on a DVD-9, so that's a contributing factor... but I'd still hope it to be more evenly distributed than it was.

[jdobbs]

Which raises an interesting question. At least to me :p
Could one create a BD-25 AVCHD compliant disk? Or would a blu ray player get confused by that currently? I guess what I'm curious about is, having hours and hours of video on a BD-25 that looks near lossless. Perhaps not lossless, but very agreeable and sharp! Sure you could. You can even create an AVCHD on a flash drive. The question would be "Why?" -- since you have more capability with the complete Blu-Ray standard (like JAVA, DTS, VC-1, etc.) and also everything that is in AVCHD.

[Sharc]

How much total time does BD Rebuilder say is on the disc (in hours, minutes, and seconds)?
4:24:43 (Region 2).
I did that disc in movie only mode. None of the movie segments had an exceptional low bit rate, all segments have a comparable and reasonable bitrate, bitrate spread say within 10...15% between segments.

[omegaman7]

Sweet. Looks like they're thinking ahead with the new formats. My mind is firing away with new ideas! :)

[jdobbs]

4:24:43 (Region 2).
I did that disc in movie only mode. None of the movie segments had an exceptional low bit rate, all segments have a comparable and reasonable bitrate, bitrate spread say within 10...15% between segments. Interesting. The distribution should be the same (after including audio/subtitle sizes) whether it is movie-only or full backup.

[drmih]

The actual film is only about 100 minutes so not too long for movie only. The rest of the film is very good quality on a bd-9, it's just the 7 minutes of action that are very blocky.

If when you get it you can't repeat it I will re-do it with a fresh rip and check the source first, just in case it was a glitch which caused the issue with that segment.

[LowDead]

I just did the old movie Twister to BD25 which showed pixelation in some intense scenes(dark with some lighning flashes). I got the feeling something just didn't cope with that much action on screen. I thought immediately about the 7 minutes scene you guys have been talking about. I haven't seen this behaviour before, and now I think out loud, can the new x264 or maybe the removed weightp setting be the cause of this? Probably not but as I said.. I was just thinking out loud :)

I will have a closer look at the original BD to see if I could notice this.

Keep it up JD!! :thanks:

[omegaman7]

Sure you could. You can even create an AVCHD on a flash drive. The question would be "Why?" -- since you have more capability with the complete Blu-Ray standard (like JAVA, DTS, VC-1, etc.) and also everything that is in AVCHD.

Imagine putting an entire season of say dexter on one Blu Ray disc. Seasons with 20+ episodes might be pushing it. But perhaps not. Nero Vision does not give me the option for creating an AVCHD with BD-25 as output size. That's why I was curious. I thought it might have something to do with the AVCHD standard. Which I'm obviously not well versed on :p

Sorry about off topic. I won't do this again. Clearly I have some reading to do ;)

[SquallMX]

That means that the original had used very little bitrate for that segment, as a proportional reduction ended up with a super small bitrate. I wonder if this is something done purposely, making a single segment be encoded at a significantly lower bitrate, but enough to get by without notice on the original? Hmmm....

Sony has been doing this since DVD times, using moderate bitrates for complex chapters and high bitrates for relatively easy to compress chapters, so DVD-Rs created with DVDShrink and Co will look with really bad quality in some cases, luckily DVD-RB with bitrate redistribution or OP-VBR is immune to this "protection" (from time to time the redistribution bitrates are bigger / equal than the original ones).
:helpful:

[jdobbs]

Imagine putting an entire season of say dexter on one Blu Ray disc. Seasons with 20+ episodes might be pushing it. But perhaps not. Nero Vision does not give me the option for creating an AVCHD with BD-25 as output size. That's why I was curious. I thought it might have something to do with the AVCHD standard. Which I'm obviously not well versed on :p

Sorry about off topic. I won't do this again. Clearly I have some reading to do ;) As long as you use the 720x480 format you'd be surprised what you can do with X264... I put 34 episodes on one disc for Season One of "Bonanza" -- it looks great.

[omegaman7]

As long as you use the 720x480 format you'd be surprised what you can do with X264... I put 34 episodes on one disc for Season One of "Bonanza" -- it looks great.

You're awesome man! As soon as I have funds, you will! Which shouldn't be long. I know i've said that before, but I do mean it!

[jdobbs]

Yeah thats a problem i had a few times now!

But in your case i dont understand why
BD9 is movie only, or not?

I have the same problems sometimes with my BD25 encodes.
If the Movie has more than 1 m2ts file, BD_RB encodes some parts as extras. So i've selected "Quicker encodes for extras" and so the Quality at some movie Parts is terrible and very blocking.

So if i see that the main movie has more than 1 m2ts file, i deselect "Quicker encodes for extras" and all seems fine.

My Disks with this Problems:

Wall-E -Encoded today with "Quicker encodes for extras" and some movie parts have heavy blocking. New encode with "Quicker encodes for extras" disabled = Encode is fine and i have no blocking

Inception
Salt
Knight and Day
Cop Out

I have no idea what you are doing differently -- but I can say I encoded "Inception" and "Cop Out" up one side and down the other with "Quicker" set on and off... and never experienced the issue you've mentioned.

I've also encoded "Wall-E" to death. I have to believe there is something unique going on with your system... are you using all the proper versions of the helper apps that are linked in the first post of this thread? It sure sounds like a CODEC frame serving issue -- or why would it not happen for me and others?

I would also suggest that trying to put 4 1/2 hours of high resolution video on a DVD-9 is really pushing the envelope. It's not impossible -- but it certainly is a lot to ask of even the greatest encoder.

[jdobbs]

So i've a question.

Yesterday i did a encode of the earth Documantation.
If i set output to BD25 BD RB says a total Runtime of 3 Hours 56 Minutes. If i set the output to BD9 there is a total Runtime of 4 Hours 26 Minutes

Why? You know, I've been thinking about chaning that for a long time... the total runtime displayed is the amount that is being reencoded rather the total amount of content on the original disc. I put it there to give an idea of how much time it's going to take to encode. When you're writing to a BD-25 a lot of the content might be kept as-is, making that value a little counter-intuitive.

I think it might make more sense to say how much content of the entire disc will be written to the target so we know what kind of target we need to use rather than just showing the content that is being reencoded.

Any thoughts from others?

[Capsbackup]

I like knowing which titles will be reencoded. If all titles are listed, could the ones that will be reencoded be noted, as well as the ones that will be kept as is? ( for BD-25 output ) :)

[jdobbs]

I like knowing which titles will be reencoded. If all titles are listed, could the ones that will be reencoded be noted, as well as the ones that will be kept as is? ( for BD-25 output ) :) I guess I wasn't very clear. I have no intention of changing the title list, -- just the total content time display that shows in the info area at startup and in the log when an encode starts. The intent is to let you know how much total content time is going to be written to the target (which includes those not shown in the title list).

[Capsbackup]

I guess I wasn't very clear. I wouldn't change the title list, -- just the total content time line, so you know how much total content time is going to be written (which includes those not shown in the title list).

Yes, this would be welcome to me. It does make sense to recognize the entire contents on a disc for a full backup.
This will help with the decision of what media to use too, and hopefully avoid those low bitrate, too much content to backup to BD5/9 Blu-rays! :p

[omegaman7]

I converted the matrix movies from BD-25 to DVD-9, and then had dvd rebuilder/cce encode to Dvd-5(6 passes, even though it's overkill). Just for the heck of it LOL! They came out looking highly impressive. Took 4hrs each! I really should put a secondary hard drive in there. It probably would have shaved 10 - 15min off each job. I was uncertain how well and how long it would take to go to Dvd-5, so I went with DVD-9 option. Was this silly? If it were you, would you simply have BD rebuilder finish the whole job? CCE is tried and trusted, I guess that's why I did it :p

[jdobbs]

I converted the matrix movies from BD-25 to DVD-9, and then had dvd rebuilder/cce encode to Dvd-5(6 passes, even though it's overkill). Just for the heck of it LOL! They came out looking highly impressive. Took 4hrs each! I really should put a secondary hard drive in there. It probably would have shaved 10 - 15min off each job. I was uncertain how well and how long it would take to go to Dvd-5, so I went with DVD-9 option. Was this silly? If it were you, would you simply have BD rebuilder finish the whole job? CCE is tried and trusted, I guess that's why I did it :p I personally would have gone straight to DVD-5. While I've always been a big fan of CCE, I think HC has gotten to a point where it is just as good -- and you likely would lose a lot more through the double decode/encode processes than you would have gained from CCE even if it were better.

[omegaman7]

Noted. Thanks for your input. Very much appreciated! :)

I'm pretty sure the quality is better than the original dvd ever was! ;)

[jdobbs]

Noted. Thanks for your input. Very much appreciated! :)

I'm pretty sure the quality is better than the original dvd ever was! ;) I wouldn't doubt that at all. :)

[Hobojobo]

I just did two blu-ray titles with the 1pass-CRF-encoding settings.

I used 720p output and CRF=18.

Inception (2:28h) with 2 audio streams (AC3 640kbit) 4,0 GB
Night and Day (1:57h) with 2 audio streams (DTS/AC3 640kbit) 4,7 GB

Can that be right?
That means, that both movie are good to compress, doesn't it?

Both look good quality wise.
The file size of the movies is even smaller than the DVDs.


I'm impressed.

[jdobbs]

I just did two blu-ray titles with the 1pass-CRF-encoding settings.

I used 720p output and CRF=18.

Inception (2:28h) with 2 audio streams (AC3 640kbit) 4,0 GB
Night and Day (1:57h) with 2 audio streams (DTS/AC3 640kbit) 4,7 GB

Can that be right?
That means, that both movie are good to compress, doesn't it?

Both look good quality wise.
The file size of the movies is even smaller than the DVDs.


I'm impressed. A CRF of 18 will always provide excellent quality -- and it proves how X264 can do a lot with a little bitrate.

[Hobojobo]

It is the the quality/size what impresses me.
But, I guess, I will come across movies, which won't let me use crf 18,720p to fit on a BD5.:devil:

[Sephiroth0000]

AUDIO ISSUES STILL...
Ok after afew months I have once again come back to BDRebuilder and yet still have the same issue which is audio out of sync afew chapters in. I attempted to do 'Hancock' this time and still problems, does anyone have any suggestions please as what BDRebuilder offers is brilliant if I can get it to work. I have included the log file to see if that is of any help and I do follow the install to the letter and yet still problems. Even when I run 'inspect' everything comes up as ok/passed so where is this going wrong? I have also done the encode/install on different machines and still the same problem. The only thing all machines have in common is that they are running x64 bit OS's


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[13:02:34] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: HANCOCK
- Input BD size: 25.72 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:14.336]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:02:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:02:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [13:07:01] Reencoding: VID_00123 (1 of 19)
- [13:07:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
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- Bitrate: 5,069 Kbs
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- [13:33:40] Video Encode complete
- [13:33:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:35:18] Multiplexing M2TS
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- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
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- [14:05:24] Video Encode complete
- [14:05:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:05:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00125]
- [14:06:35] Reencoding: VID_00125 (3 of 19)
- [14:06:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 15,851 frames
- Bitrate: 4,893 Kbs
- [14:06:35] Reencoding: VID_00125, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:20:23] Reencoding: VID_00125, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:56:55] Video Encode complete
- [14:56:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:57:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00142]
- [14:57:32] Reencoding: VID_00142 (4 of 19)
- [14:57:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,798 frames
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- [14:57:32] Reencoding: VID_00142, Pass 1 of 2
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- [15:19:28] Video Encode complete
- [15:19:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:19:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00127]
- [15:19:57] Reencoding: VID_00127 (5 of 19)
- [15:19:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,617 frames
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- [15:19:57] Reencoding: VID_00127, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:25:43] Reencoding: VID_00127, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:40:25] Video Encode complete
- [15:40:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:40:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00143]
- [15:40:37] Reencoding: VID_00143 (6 of 19)
- [15:40:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
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- [15:40:37] Reencoding: VID_00143, Pass 1 of 2
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- [15:48:36] Video Encode complete
- [15:48:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:48:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00129]
- [15:50:02] Reencoding: VID_00129 (7 of 19)
- [15:50:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
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- [15:50:02] Reencoding: VID_00129, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:08:09] Reencoding: VID_00129, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:56:07] Video Encode complete
- [16:56:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:56:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00144]
- [16:56:26] Reencoding: VID_00144 (8 of 19)
- [16:56:26] Collecting video information
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- [16:56:26] Reencoding: VID_00144, Pass 1 of 2
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- [17:01:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00131]
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- [17:01:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,657 frames
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- [17:01:33] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:04:43] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:12:53] Video Encode complete
- [17:12:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:12:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00145]
- [17:12:59] Reencoding: VID_00145 (10 of 19)
- [17:12:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
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- [17:12:59] Reencoding: VID_00145, Pass 1 of 2
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- [17:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00133 (11 of 19)
- [17:16:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,332 frames
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- [17:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 1 of 2
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- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [17:26:45] Video Encode complete
- [17:26:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00133.meta
- Demuxing time: 35 sec
[17:32:23] - Failed to build structure, aborted
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[17:32:35] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
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- Input BD size: 25.72 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:14.336]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:32:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
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- [17:32:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00146]
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- [17:33:21] Collecting video information
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- [17:33:21] Reencoding: VID_00146, Pass 1 of 2
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- [18:06:57] Multiplexing M2TS
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- [18:07:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,432 frames
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- [18:07:17] Reencoding: VID_00135, Pass 1 of 2
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- [18:18:20] Video Encode complete
- [18:18:20] Multiplexing M2TS
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- [18:18:42] Reencoding: VID_00147 (14 of 19)
- [18:18:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,227 frames
- Bitrate: 4,877 Kbs
- [18:18:42] Reencoding: VID_00147, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:23:15] Reencoding: VID_00147, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:35:13] Video Encode complete
- [18:35:13] Multiplexing M2TS
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- [18:35:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,309 frames
- Bitrate: 5,325 Kbs
- [18:35:33] Reencoding: VID_00137, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:39:20] Reencoding: VID_00137, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:50:22] Video Encode complete
- [18:50:22] Multiplexing M2TS
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- [18:50:34] Reencoding: VID_00148 (16 of 19)
- [18:50:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,229 frames
- Bitrate: 5,363 Kbs
- [18:50:34] Reencoding: VID_00148, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:52:34] Reencoding: VID_00148, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:57:48] Video Encode complete
- [18:57:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:57:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00139]
- [18:58:48] Reencoding: VID_00139 (17 of 19)
- [18:58:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,519 frames
- Bitrate: 4,848 Kbs
- [18:58:49] Reencoding: VID_00139, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:11:11] Reencoding: VID_00139, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:43:27] Video Encode complete
- [19:43:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:43:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00149]
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- [19:43:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 737 frames
- Bitrate: 5,350 Kbs
- [19:43:39] Reencoding: VID_00149, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:44:18] Reencoding: VID_00149, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:46:03] Video Encode complete
- [19:46:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:46:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00150]
- [19:47:39] Reencoding: VID_00150 (19 of 19)
- [19:47:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 23,456 frames
- Bitrate: 4,890 Kbs
- [19:47:39] Reencoding: VID_00150, Pass 1 of 2
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- [20:52:51] Video Encode complete
- [20:52:51] Multiplexing M2TS
[20:53:03]PHASE ONE complete
[20:53:03]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
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[20:54:49] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[20:54:49] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[20:56:54]JOB: HANCOCK finished.

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[humphammer]

I don't know if this is a bug or not and unfortunately I have deleted the files because I didn't know I was having problems until I tried to play my back-up's all the way through....I have backed up three movies with the latest version of BDRB movie only all on Verbatim BD-R 25 and all three at some point in the movie will pause and jump ahead a few seconds, they may play fine for a chapter or two and then start doing it again....have I run into a batch of bad media, or is anyone else having problems like this with 36.06? BTW these are from the spindle that I have used on over 30 sucessful back-ups, and the movies were Inception, Planet 51, and Shrek Forever After.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

[jdobbs]

I don't know if this is a bug or not and unfortunately I have deleted the files because I didn't know I was having problems until I tried to play my back-up's all the way through....I have backed up three movies with the latest version of BDRB movie only all on Verbatim BD-R 25 and all three at some point in the movie will pause and jump ahead a few seconds, they may play fine for a chapter or two and then start doing it again....have I run into a batch of bad media, or is anyone else having problems like this with 36.06? BTW these are from the spindle that I have used on over 30 sucessful back-ups, and the movies were Inception, Planet 51, and Shrek Forever After.

Thanks in advance for any replies. If you are playing on a standalone playre, it's almost certainly media. If you're playing on a PC -- it could be the PC's CODEC or video.

[jdobbs]

- [17:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00133 (11 of 19)
- [17:16:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,332 frames
- Bitrate: 4,996 Kbs
- [17:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:22:02] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [17:26:45] Video Encode complete
- [17:26:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00133.meta
- Demuxing time: 35 sec
[17:32:23] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[17:32:35] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: HANCOCK
- Input BD size: 25.72 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:14.336]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:32:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:32:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:32:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00146]
- [17:33:21] Reencoding: VID_00146 (12 of 19)
- [17:33:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,349 frames
- Bitrate: 5,028 Kbs
- [17:33:21] Reencoding: VID_00146, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:42:24] Reencoding: VID_00146, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:06:57] Video Encode complete
- [18:06:57] Multiplexing M2TS Notice in the log that there was a failure to mux VID_00133... and when it was resumed it started at VID_00146. So the questions are:

1. Why did it fail? Was it incomplete?
2. It looks like the mux completed too quickly (less than one second) when it restarted... indicating the input was incomplete.
3. Why did it not pick up where it left off instead of going on to VID_00146?

I can look at the second and third questions... unless you modified the INF between the two. But the first issue indicates something external -- like a corrupted disc or a flaky system. Are you overclocked? Are you positive you are using the helper apps linked in the first post of this thread? I ask because the problem you are seeing is indicative of an incorrect HAALI or FFDSHOW version in use.

Also what are you using to rip the source? If it isn't AnyDVD, I would download the demo and try that instead of your method.

Also, can you run INSPECT.EXE and post the results? All of these discs have been done successfully by myself and others, so something unique is at play in your environment.

[humphammer]

If you are playing on a standalone playre, it's almost certainly media. If you're playing on a PC -- it could be the PC's CODEC or video.
Just tried the Shrek back-up it does the same thing at the same spots in the movie on both my Sony 400 disc Blu-Ray changer, and my Dell laptop....so bad media is no doubt the problem....maybe Santa will bring me a new spindle, but three coasters out of 41 perfect ones used out of a 50 pack spindle is not bad.

Did not think it was your program it has been perfect for my use so far and if you go from beta to retail I would certainly purchase....until then a donation has been made.
:thanks: Humphammer

[omegaman7]

Why does it have to be the media? Why not a flaky burner? I've had them. So far my LG WH10LS30 is an excellent burner. My Lite-on iHES108 BD-Rom however, is only a So so reading drive. It seems to ignore read errors on occasion. So I only allow it to read Brand new BD discs. It even screwed up reading a DVD once upon a time. Given BD drives are still spendy, I only allow BD discs in them now. I was merely breaking it in when I bought it :p So far every BD-R I've thrown at the LG, has came out flawless. Though the Philips/Optical quantums may not be the best. Or at least the living room player stuck its nose up once...(Which could be due to firmware issue)

[humphammer]

Why does it have to be the media? Why not a flaky burner? I've had them. So far my LG WH10LS30 is an excellent burner. My Lite-on iHES108 BD-Rom however, is only a So so reading drive. It seems to ignore read errors on occasion. So I only allow it to read Brand new BD discs. It even screwed up reading a DVD once upon a time. Given BD drives are still spendy, I only allow BD discs in them now. I was merely breaking it in when I bought it :p So far every BD-R I've thrown at the LG, has came out flawless. Though the Philips/Optical quantums may not be the best. Or at least the living room player stuck its nose up once...(Which could be due to firmware issue)
I sure do hope it's not the burner....it's just six months old, I guess time will tell.

[jdobbs]

Why does it have to be the media? Why not a flaky burner? I've had them. So far my LG WH10LS30 is an excellent burner. My Lite-on iHES108 BD-Rom however, is only a So so reading drive. It seems to ignore read errors on occasion. So I only allow it to read Brand new BD discs. It even screwed up reading a DVD once upon a time. Given BD drives are still spendy, I only allow BD discs in them now. I was merely breaking it in when I bought it :p So far every BD-R I've thrown at the LG, has came out flawless. Though the Philips/Optical quantums may not be the best. Or at least the living room player stuck its nose up once...(Which could be due to firmware issue) Not likely -- since it's happening at the same spot(s). But anything is possible.

[Sephiroth0000]

YES I am overclocked. I am running a Intel Dualcore E5200 2.50Ghz O/C to 3.45Ghz. But it is completely stable so far as I know. Could this possibly be an issue? I have used all the versions specificed on the first page to the letter aswell as running inspect.exe with no problems also. I have no doubt that the problem is my system. I just can't figure out why :(

[jdobbs]

YES I am overclocked. I am running a Intel Dualcore E5200 2.50Ghz O/C to 3.45Ghz. But it is completely stable so far as I know. Could this possibly be an issue? I have used all the versions specificed on the first page to the letter aswell as running inspect.exe with no problems also. I have no doubt that the problem is my system. I just can't figure out why :( What I believe you'll find is that if you slow down your system a little, the problem will likely disappear. X264 will stress you system to the max -- a lot more than other "stress testers"... I've seen it happen many times before, usually after a couple of hours of running.

[Sephiroth0000]

What I believe you'll find is that if you slow down your system a little, the problem will likely disappear. X264 will stress you system to the max -- a lot more than other "stress testers"... I've seen it happen many times before, usually after a couple of hours of running.

What if I were to set the priorty to low within BDRebuilder? That way the processors are not 'stressed' so to speak. My friend done the overclock and he lives in australia now. Funny you say x264 being the issue though because MeGui did not work for me either coming back with a x264 error.

This is the inspect report aswell.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.6, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[Capsbackup]

What if I were to set the priorty to low within BDRebuilder? That way the processors are not 'stressed' so to speak. My friend done the overclock and he lives in australia now. Funny you say x264 being the issue though because MeGui did not work for me either coming back with a x264 error.


This confirms the suspicion! :p
No setting will change the fact that your system is not running stable with such a high stress application like x264.
You could try opening the side of your PC case, set up an external room fan and blast away, seeing if you can make it run cooler. :rolleyes:
The real solution is to back off your over-clocking to get your processor running stable, since you need stable to get reliable BD-RB or any x264 backups. :cool:

[omegaman7]

Ahh yes. X264, the ultimate way to test stability ;) I fear it would find a problem with my 965 overclock :S It was too easy an overclock, at a low voltage.

[jdobbs]

What if I were to set the priorty to low within BDRebuilder? That way the processors are not 'stressed' so to speak. That makes no difference whatsoever. The priority is relative to the processes running... when there is nothing competing with X264 it will still max processor(s) out -- and even if X264 wasn't only process, the combination of X264 and other processors would max out the processors.

There's nothing wrong with overclocking -- but you have to make sure you back it down to a stable level. My guess is that yours is slightly faster than it should be.

[cnote]

I sure do hope it's not the burner....it's just six months old, I guess time will tell.

I had an LG Blu-ray burner fail on me after only 5 months. I blame most of on burning at Max speed though. Burn at 4x to get great value out of your drive.