BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[slvrsrfr]

@slvrsrfr

I don't remember if I asked this before... what player are you using?

The one I'm playing these on is a Panasonic DMP-BDT220.

[jdobbs]

The one I'm playing these on is a Panasonic DMP-BDT220.Ok. I just ran it and it is perfectly in sync at the point you mentioned, but my log doesn't look to be exactly like yours, so I'm changing a few settings and trying again.

[slvrsrfr]

Ok. I just ran it and it is perfectly in sync at the point you mentioned, but my log doesn't look to be exactly like yours, so I'm changing a few settings and trying again.

Drat! I don't get it... :scared:

[jdobbs]

Drat! I don't get it... :scared:In my previous run I noticed the audio had been reencoded and yours hadn't. So I changed the settings to match yours. Unfortunately, though, it completed again in perfect sync.

I don't know what else to do. All my instincts tell me something is wrong with your CODEC setup. But you've assured me everything is installed correctly and all of the recommended versions are in use. So I'm at a loss.

[CV91913]

Drat! I don't get it... :scared:
I have had this happen a few times over the years. Every time it has been a bad original source. As others have said, players are forgiving and encoders are not. Put the original disc in your set top player and move to about a minute before where you say it goes out of sync. Play from that point and watch for any kind of glitch. If there is something, the player will probably ignore it and keep playing in sync but it will screw up the encode. If you don't see a problem there, try the same thing with the rip.

[slvrsrfr]

In my previous run I noticed the audio had been reencoded and yours hadn't. So I changed the settings to match yours. Unfortunately, though, it completed again in perfect sync.

I don't know what else to do. All my instincts tell me something is wrong with your CODEC setup. But you've assured me everything is installed correctly and all of the recommended versions are in use. So I'm at a loss.

Is there anything else I can post for comparison, e.g., ffdshow settings screenshots? Like I said, I totally reinstalled Windows and ran all of the updates for it. Then I just added those other apps, which I didn't think would impact BDRB or the others, unless Office 2013 perhaps did. The reason I added it was to keep all of my screenshot setting for BDRB and ffdshow in one document for reference. For example, I took screenshots of ffdshow before and after I reinstalled Windows and noticed some of the codec settings were different.

I do have a copy of Windows 8, but haven't put it in the box that I run BDRB on yet, as I'm not ready to go there on it. What OS do you run?

[jdobbs]

Is there anything else I can post for comparison, e.g., ffdshow settings screenshots? Like I said, I totally reinstalled Windows and ran all of the updates for it. Then I just added those other apps, which I didn't think would impact BDRB or the others, unless Office 2013 perhaps did. The reason I added it was to keep all of my screenshot setting for BDRB and ffdshow in one document for reference. For example, I took screenshots of ffdshow before and after I reinstalled Windows and noticed some of the codec settings were different.

I do have a copy of Windows 8, but haven't put it in the box that I run BDRB on yet, as I'm not ready to go there on it. What OS do you run?I'm running Windows 7 (Home Premium). From the log you posted, it has the same version id as yours.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.46.13). Changes for this release:- Made a change to the processing of intact
video sources. This will eliminate blocking
artifacts that might be (rarely) introduced
in recent versions of TSMUXER.
- Further improved the algorithm for encoding
with LAVF frame serving. Due to updates in
newer versions of X264s LAVF, more source
formats are directly supported -- making
the need for reversion to DirectshowSource()
less likely.
- Corrected an error that could prevent BD-RB
from keeping 3D sources intact when they
would fit as-is in the target size.
- Corrected an issue that might prevent AVCHD
output from playing on certain players.
- Fixed a problem in which errant ".mpls" and
".clpi" files could be created in an AVCHD
movie-only authored structure.
- Fixed an issue that could cause incorrect
aspect ratio playback on certain rare
MPEG-2 sources.
- Disabled and removed PULLDOWN_720 from the
hidden options. In testing I've found too
many inconsistencies when it is set.
- Added working folder free space as a part
of the reported settings in error output
and "Inspect".
- Corrected an issue in which audio, subtitle,
and blanking options were not being properly
retained during a full backup via BATCH mode.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[slvrsrfr]

I'm running Windows 7 (Home Premium). From the log you posted, it has the same version id as yours.

Hmmm, so I'm basically willing to do any test you'd recommend. I did do a search on Office 2013 and people complain that they can't play videos w/ it when they could w/ older versions of Office...so maybe there's something there. I'm going to do one more fresh install of Windows and nothing else but the components for BDRB!

I'm probably a big PITA, but I do really appreciate all of your suggestions and effort to help me resolve this!!! :)

[jdobbs]

Hmmm, so I'm basically willing to do any test you'd recommend. I did do a search on Office 2013 and people complain that they can't play videos w/ it when they could w/ older versions of Office...so maybe there's something there. I'm going to do one more fresh install of Windows and nothing else but the components for BDRB!

I'm probably a big PITA, but I do really appreciate all of your suggestions and effort to help me resolve this!!! :)I just posted a new version. It's the one I used for the last couple of test runs. I don't think it will change anything from your end... but you never know.

[slvrsrfr]

I just posted a new version. It's the one I used for the last couple of test runs. I don't think it will change anything from your end... but you never know.

I just started reloading Windows - so I'll grab this version once the updates finish. I'll give up if it doesn't work w/ just Windows and the the BDRB relevant apps. :)

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
Thank you for the new release.
I notice that BD-RB 0.46.13 still wants to add the sky background Clip as an Extra to the Quick-Menu. It happens after importing, when launching the Quick-Play Menu Editor and Save:
[Titles]
Title=SCRATCH
Threshold=27000000
00001=BC1
00002=BC2
00003=03. Disc Extra: [00:00:01.042]
[Position]
00001=1
00002=2
00003=3
[Selected]
00001=-1
00002=-1
00003=-1
It's a minor issue. One just has to manually unselect it or get it as a surprise on the burnt disc.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Thank you for the new release.
I notice that BD-RB 0.46.13 still wants to add the sky background Clip as an Extra to the Quick-Menu. It happens after importing, when launching the Quick-Play Menu Editor and Save:
[Titles]
Title=SCRATCH
Threshold=27000000
00001=BC1
00002=BC2
00003=03. Disc Extra: [00:00:01.042]
[Position]
00001=1
00002=2
00003=3
[Selected]
00001=-1
00002=-1
00003=-1
It's a minor issue. One just has to manually unselect it or get it as a surprise on the burnt disc.I guess I don't understand. Why would you do a Quick Menu backup of an imported disc? The menu has already been created during the import. The intention was to do a full backup after importing. You'd also have to set the Quick Menu threshold really low...

But I'll look at it and make changes as necessary.

[HWK]

Jdobbs, do we need option write to iso file with imgBurn anymore. Since tsmuxer can do that just fine.

Also I was thinking frimdecode can decode MPEG2, H.264 AVC, H.264 MVC (3D) and VC1 as well, by adding that option for frame-serving it would provide another option.

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs, do we need option write to iso file with imgBurn anymore. Since tsmuxer can do that just fine.

Also I was thinking frimdecode can decode MPEG2, H.264 AVC, H.264 MVC (3D) and VC1 as well, by adding that option for frame-serving it would provide another option.TSMUXER can only do it for a movie-only encode. IMGBURN can do a complex disc such as full backups.

The downside to FRIMDecode (and FRIMSource) is speed compared to other methods. Right now I'm thinking X264's LAVF might be a better option for decoding. Both, though, have quite a few downsides -- especially in the areas of resizing, deinterlacing, iVTC, hybrid sources etc... AVISYNTH gives a lot of power that is difficult to do without. If you set FRIMDecode as an option -- you have to disable a lot of capability in order to use it.

[HWK]

TSMUXER can only do it for a movie-only encode. IMGBURN can do a complex disc such as full backups.

The downside to FRIMDecode (and FRIMSource) is speed compared to other methods. Right now I'm thinking X264's LAVF might be a better option for decoding. Both, though, have quite a few downsides -- especially in the areas of resizing, deinterlacing, iVTC, hybrid sources etc... AVISYNTH gives a lot of power that is difficult to do without. If you set FRIMDecode as an option -- you have to disable a lot of capability in order to use it.

Oh, I see you point of view. Yeah without avisynth help lot of things are limited. Silly me I didn't take that into account.

[jdobbs]

Oh, I see you point of view. Yeah without avisynth help lot of things are limited. Silly me I didn't take that into account.It really would be simpler, though, to have a package that doesn't rely on proper installation of AVISYNTH, FFDSHOW, and HAALI.

[DVD Maniac]

Hi jdobbs
When in Full Backup mode I just can't seem to get the title blanking feature to work. Read the various posts on this and added the ENABLE_TEST=1 line to the .INI file but still no joy. Happens with all BD sources, right click any title and the Preview works fine but the "Blank this item" option is always greyed out and not selectable.

Options Settings as follows -

[Options]
ENABLE_TEST=1
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=3500
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
OPEN_GOP=1
DEINTERLACE=0
AC3_192=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
VERSION=0.46.0.13
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=1
RESIZE_1440=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
RESIZE_720=0
NEROAAC=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=11
ALTCRF=18
ALT_TARGET=18000
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
IGNORE_3D=0
OUTPUT_SBS=1
SUPTITLE=0

[gonca]

Try adding ENABLE_BLANKING=1 as well.

[jdobbs]

Source: BD with 4 Episodes + Extras

Case 1: (working correctly)
Import/Quick Play Settings: Thresholds = 10
=> The 4 episodes are shown in the Menu Editor
=> The Extras are skipped, as expected
Backup and Quick-Menu are all ok.

Case 2: (Problem)
Import/Quick Play Settings: Thresholds = 6
=> The 4 Episodes + Extras are listed in the Quick-Play Menu Title Editor, as expected. The Preview of the Episodes and Extras is also correct.
Now I deselect the Extras in the Editor and Save
=> Importing starts, but only the deselected Extras are imported, and the selected Episodes are skipped.

So something gets messed up.

Case 3: (working correctly)
Same as case 2, but instead of deselecting all the Extras I select the Episodes and keep at least one of the Extras
=> Import and Menu creation are correct

So the problem seems to exist only when I unselect all the Extras.
The cases are reproducible.

Edit:
I seem to have been too optimistic with Case 3.

In General:
- The Quick-Menu proposal when importing a BD, let's call it 'Version A'
- My Quick-Menu edit (text edit and titles selection) is 'Version B'
- What gets then imported into the IMPORT Folder is 'Version C'
- What I finally get -- as a surprise -- on the burned disc is 'Version D'

So the only method which seems to work reliably is Case 1 above, i.e. selecting the import threshold high enough such that only the episodes are selected, and forget any Extras.

The issue is probably related to the weird menu & playlist structure of this disc, I believe.

Edit2:
Hmm.... could the screwing up be caused by the truncation (max. number of characters) of the Quick-Menu text strings ...?Well, I finally found out what was causing this and fixed it for the next release. Too bad I didn't catch it yesterday and it could have been fixed in v0.46.13. The interesting thing is that this bug has been there for a long time -- and it just wasn't noticed by anyone. It only affects BD imports. I guess that tells me how many people actually import BDs and edit the import list. ;)

[DVD Maniac]

Try adding ENABLE_BLANKING=1 as well.

Thanks! Working fine now and trying a first experiment. I notice that you cannot select Alternative File output with blanking which is a shame as I much prefer the single file MKV result (better quality vs file size IMHO and easier to work with). Ideally I would like a multi title + custom blanking + menu in MKV format - I assume that is not available!

[Sharc]

I guess I don't understand. Why would you do a Quick Menu backup of an imported disc? The menu has already been created during the import. The intention was to do a full backup after importing. You'd also have to set the Quick Menu threshold really low...

But I'll look at it and make changes as necessary.
Sorry for not being clear.
My scenario is to import a couple of files (videocam, TV recordings) and to create a Quick-Menu. All goes well until -- before pressing the 'Backup' button -- I decide to edit the quick menu via Mode/Quick-Play Backup/Edit Quick-Play Menu. The menu editor opens and the menu background file (the default night sky video) is appended to the menu items as an "Extra" (the thresholds are set to 10, so I would not expect the sky video to be included as an Extra in the Quick-Menu)
Not a critical issue but I thought it's probably not intentional, and it might be the root cause for the weird menu creation reported earlier (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1667947&postcount=19196).

[gonca]

Thanks! Working fine now and trying a first experiment. I notice that you cannot select Alternative File output with blanking which is a shame as I much prefer the single file MKV result (better quality vs file size IMHO and easier to work with). Ideally I would like a multi title + custom blanking + menu in MKV format - I assume that is not available!

As far as I know you are correct

[jdobbs]

Thanks! Working fine now and trying a first experiment. I notice that you cannot select Alternative File output with blanking which is a shame as I much prefer the single file MKV result (better quality vs file size IMHO and easier to work with). Ideally I would like a multi title + custom blanking + menu in MKV format - I assume that is not available!It wouldn't work anyway. Blanking doesn't allow you to remove only a portion of a playlist.

[DVD Maniac]

It wouldn't work anyway. Blanking doesn't allow you to remove only a portion of a playlist.

Doesn't the blanking feature work at individual m2ts file level rather than playlists?

Also I noticed that the list of video titles displayed in the stream tab is restricted. The cut off point seems to be file sizes less than 10kb? In the test I ran the annoying copyright / fbi stuff is less than this cutoff so I did not get the option to blank them.

Tried the following in the INI file - "MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=0" which does not make a difference..... I guess there is something obvious i'm missing:stupid:

[jdobbs]

Doesn't the blanking feature work at individual m2ts file level rather than playlists?

Also I noticed that the list of video titles displayed in the stream tab is restricted. The cut off point seems to be file sizes less than 10kb? In the test I ran the annoying copyright / fbi stuff is less than this cutoff so I did not get the option to blank them.

Tried the following in the INI file - "MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=0" which does not make a difference..... I guess there is something obvious i'm missing:stupid:It can't. You'd be removing a piece of what should be a complete unit. Also, a single M2TS may be a component of many playlists (over 100 on some discs).

Look for MIN_M2TS_SIZE in HIDDENOPTS.TXT. MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS only applies to the selection of other movie-only playlists (in the popup dialog).

[Stigmatta]

Hey, so i made a backup of game of thrones using Full Backup BD-5/DVD-5 option. I burned the files using Imgburn. When i try to play the dvd-r in my bluray player or in PowerDVD, its giving me an error saying it cant read the disc...This is my first time backing up a TV series type bluray with BDR. Is there a specific way to backup these type of blurays? Am i missing some special settings in the ripping or burning? Should tv series type blurays not use full backup option? Any tips? Ive never had an issue with NON-Series type blurays.

Other settings im using
*Use 448 kbs
*Strict avchd for bd5/9 movie-only

thx for any help/tips

[DoctorM]

Downloaded 46.13 tonight. All discs:

- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Network Optix tsMuxeR. Version 2.6.12. www.networkoptix.com
[19:21:29] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Zuh?

[Ch3vr0n]

@Doctorm: where's the rest of the bdrb log. Jdobbs can't do a damn thing with 3 lines of text

@stigmata: it could simpy be that your player does not support BD5/9. Although burned to a DVD blank, the disc structure is still blu-ray

[Stigmatta]

@stigmata: it could simpy be that your player does not support BD5/9. Although burned to a DVD blank, the disc structure is still blu-ray

Nah cuz as i stated before ive never had any problems with backing up and playing everyday Movie Only bd5/9 rips. But these discs are a tv series and something seems to be not going right...:(

[jdobbs]

Hey, so i made a backup of game of thrones using Full Backup BD-5/DVD-5 option. I burned the files using Imgburn. When i try to play the dvd-r in my bluray player or in PowerDVD, its giving me an error saying it cant read the disc...This is my first time backing up a TV series type bluray with BDR. Is there a specific way to backup these type of blurays? Am i missing some special settings in the ripping or burning? Should tv series type blurays not use full backup option? Any tips? Ive never had an issue with NON-Series type blurays.

Other settings im using
*Use 448 kbs
*Strict avchd for bd5/9 movie-only

thx for any help/tipsMost of the time your player has to support AVCHD before it will play from DVD-R. Also -- AVCHD doesn't support JAVA. So that could be a factor as well. Some players will play it back anyway -- but some may not.

Not sure about PowerDVD. Are you sure it is burning without errors?

I'll do a couple of full backups of some series discs tonight to BD-9 just to make sure nothing has happened. But, honestly, I don't think there will be any issues.

[Stigmatta]

Ya my player plays avchd all the time. Like i said, this is the first time ive done a TV Series type disc and i dont know if they need to be ripped/burnt some specific way...:confused:
If you get a positive working backup, let me know how you did it! Id greatly appreciate it!:D

[DoctorM]

Pop-up error: tsmuxer.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Seriously, that log was about it. Here is the full log going from a BD25 to BD25 movie only (just for the quick log):
[02/19/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.13 (beta)
[01:59:35] Source: ***
- Input BD size: 21.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:09:44.777]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), CRF
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[01:59:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:59:37] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [01:59:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Network Optix tsMuxeR. Version 2.6.12. www.networkoptix.com
[02:00:07] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Has there been a change in the version of tsMuxeR? Does the new one have different system requirements or something?

Edit: Yeah, swapped out the tsmuxer.exe with an older one and it works fine. Something hinky in new version.
Edit 2: Just tested a dozen versions of tsmuxer, I can't run any version past 1.10.6. Something in the new code either doesn't like my WinXP or old CPU.
Hopefully, I can keep copying 1.10.6 into your new releases and it'll work. My PC isn't getting upgraded any time soon and I sure won't want to be doing without BDRB.

Edit 3: Noticed something else. "Input BD size" shown in the log still includes the disabled audio and subtitle tracks.
I've now seen this force an unnecessary re-encoding. It probably also causes undersized discs.

[Taurus]

@DoctorM
You must have a very old CPU, guessing AMD Athlon XP?
Without SSE2 instructions, no go with new tsmuxer.
You have to stick with the old version or buy a new PC :D

[jdobbs]

Pop-up error: tsmuxer.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Seriously, that log was about it. Here is the full log going from a BD25 to BD25 movie only (just for the quick log):
[02/19/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.13 (beta)
[01:59:35] Source: ***
- Input BD size: 21.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:09:44.777]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), CRF
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[01:59:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:59:37] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [01:59:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Network Optix tsMuxeR. Version 2.6.12. www.networkoptix.com
[02:00:07] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Has there been a change in the version of tsMuxeR? Does the new one have different system requirements or something?

Edit: Yeah, swapped out the tsmuxer.exe with an older one and it works fine. Something hinky in new version.
Edit 2: Just tested a dozen versions of tsmuxer, I can't run any version past 1.10.6. Something in the new code either doesn't like my WinXP or old CPU.
Hopefully, I can keep copying 1.10.6 into your new releases and it'll work. My PC isn't getting upgraded any time soon and I sure won't want to be doing without BDRB.

Edit 3: Noticed something else. "Input BD size" shown in the log still includes the disabled audio and subtitle tracks.
I've now seen this force an unnecessary re-encoding. It probably also causes undersized discs.The new version of TSMUXER has been there for the last several releases. It's not a good idea to swap out the version, there are several functions that depend on it -- and I won't support bug reports that use the old one.

[jdobbs]

@DoctorM
You must have a very old CPU, guessing AMD Athlon XP?
Without SSE2 instructions, no go with new tsmuxer.
You have to stick with the old version or buy a new PC :DAMD's processors have supported SSE2 since 2003. I would hope no one is using a processor that old for HD encoding???

[Stigmatta]

hey jdobbs, any luck with the season bd?
Any possibility the issue could be similar to what Sharc was having? Maybe i should be using Quick-Play instead of Full Backup options for TV series blurays and BDR is having an issue with menus for them?

[jdobbs]

hey jdobbs, any luck with the season bd?
Any possibility the issue could be similar to what Sharc was having? Maybe i should be using Quick-Play instead of Full Backup options for TV series blurays and BDR is having an issue with menus for them?If I understand correctly you are doing full backups of series discs. That is different from Sharc, who is importing the episodes. His issue is different as well.

I had a crash during my series backups last night (something entirely my fault due to some test code), so they didn't complete. I'll have to run them today sometime.

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs, do we need option write to iso file with imgBurn anymore. Since tsmuxer can do that just fine.

Also I was thinking frimdecode can decode MPEG2, H.264 AVC, H.264 MVC (3D) and VC1 as well, by adding that option for frame-serving it would provide another option.I decided to play with this a little... one other note (in addition to my original response): It seems FRIMDecode can't decode VC-1 interlaced files (or at least the one I'm trying right now from M2TS imput). It seems to just freeze and never output anything.

[colinhunt]

Did a Full backup of La Grande Illusion (StudioCanal Collection) to BD25 on BD-RB v0.46.11. Process finished without errors but the backup won't play on anything. A Blu-ray mastering application could not open the backup, it simply complained something about being unable to initialize BDMV content.

I'll do another run on the new version of BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

hey jdobbs, any luck with the season bd?
Any possibility the issue could be similar to what Sharc was having? Maybe i should be using Quick-Play instead of Full Backup options for TV series blurays and BDR is having an issue with menus for them?I just did one full backup of a series disc (Modern Family) with no issues. It was to a BD-9, and I played it back with PowerDVD and also on my Samsung standalone player. I have a second job (STNG) running now.

[Stigmatta]

I just did one full backup of a series disc (Modern Family) with no issues. It was to a BD-9, and I played it back with PowerDVD and also on my Samsung standalone player. I have a second job (STNG) running now.

Do you mind sharing what you used for all your settings? Could it be because i used DVD-5? Also, did you use Imgburn.

[Rodger]

DVD5 is brutal. How much video is there?
Or to make it short...what bitrate is used to reencode?

For HD you really shouldn´t go below 4Mbit.

Differences will be visible eventually.
On my 55" Samsung TV BD Backups look fine....With my Epson Beamer on 90" Canvas I can see the difference between original Blu-Ray and BD25 !!!

[Stigmatta]

Im sure there is alot of video seeing its a series disc. Im using 448kbs as far as sound goes. I guess i could try again using DVD-9, 448kbs, and full backup this time and see how it goes...

[omegaman7]

I've seen some pretty impressive results at low bitrate. :p

[jdobbs]

Do you mind sharing what you used for all your settings? Could it be because i used DVD-5? Also, did you use Imgburn.BD-5 & 9 are processed identically, so, while the picture may not be as good, if it works on a BD-9 it will work on a BD-5.

My settings are the default that comes with BD-RB, except I am using DGDecNV. But that would have no effect on the structure of the output.

[DoctorM]

I completely understand you not supporting a really old CPU. I'll continue to swap tsmuxer or use old versions as long as I have to. That's my problem.
But the calculations for that take place before Tsmuxer becomes involved.

Unless you've addressed an issue with the "BD Input Size" being wrong recently, you should take a look. Same log: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1669241#post1669241
The original M2TS is 21.79gb as being reported, but more than a gig of audio tracks were disabled there. BDRB doesn't deduct that and forces a re-encode even though only a rebuild is needed.

True for Movie Only and Movie with Menus.

[jdobbs]

I completely understand you not supporting a really old CPU. I'll continue to swap tsmuxer or use old versions as long as I have to. That's my problem.
But the calculations for that take place before Tsmuxer becomes involved.

Unless you've addressed an issue with the "BD Input Size" being wrong recently, you should take a look. Same log: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1669241#post1669241
The original M2TS is 21.79gb as being reported, but more than a gig of audio tracks were disabled there. BDRB doesn't deduct that and forces a re-encode even though only a rebuild is needed.

True for Movie Only and Movie with Menus.I'll look at it. But I don't get what you're saying. The input size is the size before removal or reencoding -- thus the name "Input Size". It includes everything except files that will be copied intact (full backup mode).

The determination as to whether it is kept intact is made when the file is extracted. If the video + kept-audio + kept-subtitles are small enought to hit the target without encoding... then encoding is avoided.

[Stigmatta]

im gonna try again using DGDecNV, never used that before :scared:
Do i need to adjust anything in DGDecNV itself to work correctly or just leave it default and 32bit.
thanks for your help btw

[jdobbs]

im gonna try again using DGDecNV, never used that before :scared:
Do i need to adjust anything in DGDecNV itself to work correctly or just leave it default and 32bit.
thanks for your help btwNo, all you have to do is selected it (and browse to it) in SETUP. But, while I always recommend DGDecNV to anyone with a compatible video card because it is faster and more stable, I don't see how that could possibly affect the playback issues you're having. DGDecNV provides frame serving -- but the output comes from X264 either way, and is built with TSMUXER.

Also, DGDecNV is not freeware and does not come with BD-RB.

Your best bet might be to uninstall BD-RB, AVISYNTH, HAALI, and FFDSHOW -- and then reinstall everything following the first post of this thread exactly.