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[Lathe]

OK, you were getting 20 fps results from 25 fps because you were doing IVTC to the video. 25 fps video doesn't have 2:3 pulldown, ever. The TFM().TDecimate() line needs to go away.

Oh wow, really...? Heh... I must've misunderstood what Sharc suggested I do then. How strange... I thought the IVTC was what was helping with all that combing and stuff.

I have a lot to learn... Well, it will be interesting to remove those lines and see how it looks. Thanks mate!

***EDIT

Yep, you are right! (Wow, twice in a row! :D)

The resulting frame rate is now 25. The video doesn't really look that different in motion for that first minute or so. I tried going back and forth between the encode with the IVTC and without and I couldn't see any difference other than changing the frame rate according to MediaInfo.

Well hmmm... I'll still need to see what I can do though to reduce that ghosting and combing. I have NO bloody idea what the parameters of the TComb line are doing, I just pasted an example script. So, should I change those values, will that help with the combing and stuff? Is there another plugin/script I should try to reduce that, because if I can get rid of more of that that would help. Just softening it though seems to have helped with that. I remember one encode where I had both the TemporalSoften and the Denoise cranked up, and it looked REALLY smooth and clean, but almost no detail :)

What to do... Well, at least my different plugins are mostly working now.

[MrVideo]

Oh wow, really...? Heh... I must've misunderstood what Sharc suggested I do then. How strange... I thought the IVTC was what was helping with all that combing and stuff.
IVTC = InVerse TeleCine
It removes the 2:3 pulldown used to get 23.976 fps video to play at 29.97 fps, i.e. 2:3 pulldown telecine..

In order to cheaply get 23.976/24 fps video to play at 25 fps, the video is sped up by 4%. If the audio isn't fixed, it will have a pitch change. By using an expensive commercial standards converter, the 23.976 video is converted to 25 fps without a pitch change. But, in doing so, there is frame blending involved.
The resulting frame rate is now 25. The video doesn't really look that different in motion for that first minute or so. I tried going back and forth between the encode with the IVTC and without and I couldn't see any difference other than changing the frame rate according to MediaInfo.
Out of every 5 frames, you should see a dropped/missing frame, which is why it became 20 fps.
I'll still need to see what I can do though to reduce that ghosting and combing. I have NO bloody idea what the parameters of the TComb line are doing, I just pasted an example script. So, should I change those values, will that help with the combing and stuff? Is there another plugin/script I should try to reduce that, because if I can get rid of more of that that would help. Just softening it though seems to have helped with that. I remember one encode where I had both the TemporalSoften and the Denoise cranked up, and it looked REALLY smooth and clean, but almost no detail :)
Instead of trying to find it, it there a link to a piece of the original 25 fps video?

My guess is that it is 25p and not 50i. Decombing only really works on interlaced video as it is working with two separate fields in order to create a new frame. If the video is progressive, there are no fields to work with. Since I never do any decombing, you'd have find a filter that will take the progressive frame and create two interlaced fields and then do the decombing. I do not know if there is a filter setting for progressive vs interlaced sources.

Since appears to be a very cheaply produced video, it is very possible they took a 29.97 2:3 pulldown video and converted it to 25 fps. Blending of frames would be a result.

I'd have to look at a file containing several minutes of the video.

[Lathe]

IVTC = InVerse TeleCine
It removes the 2:3 pulldown used to get 23.976 fps video to play at 29.97 fps, i.e. 2:3 pulldown telecine..

In order to cheaply get 23.976/24 fps video to play at 25 fps, the video is sped up by 4%. If the audio isn't fixed, it will have a pitch change. By using an expensive commercial standards converter, the 23.976 video is converted to 25 fps without a pitch change. But, in doing so, there is frame blending involved.

Out of every 5 frames, you should see a dropped/missing frame, which is why it became 20 fps.

Instead of trying to find it, it there a link to a piece of the original 25 fps video?

My guess is that it is 25p and not 50i. Decombing only really works on interlaced video as it is working with two separate fields in order to create a new frame. If the video is progressive, there are no fields to work with. Since I never do any decombing, you'd have find a filter that will take the progressive frame and create two interlaced fields and then do the decombing. I do not know if there is a filter setting for progressive vs interlaced sources.

Since appears to be a very cheaply produced video, it is very possible they took a 29.97 2:3 pulldown video and converted it to 25 fps. Blending of frames would be a result.

I'd have to look at a file containing several minutes of the video.

Good explanation, thanks mate!

Yes, I think you are right because there is some kind of 'ghosting'(what looks like combing) going on. And yes the original HD video is encoded at 25 fps. It was kind of funny though that with the 2 softeners/denoisers cranked up, everything looked pretty damn smooth :) But, I have a feeling that I am only going to be able to get it to look so 'good' because of the original crappy encoding that was done.

You honestly CAN see though through all the crap that the basics underneath it do look quite a bit better than the absolutely washed out, though 'properly' encoded DVD. But, when you look at the DVD, the underlying substance is so weak that there is nothing much to work with. It's kind of like it's been watered down about 50% from the basic information in the HD print. Colours, definition, saturation, contrast. There is just more 'there' there in the HD print, thus my wanting to 'fix' the HD encode the best I can.

I will post a link to about a 5 minute snippet of the original video (I think my first post was only about 20 seconds) but it is going to be about 350 Megs, so if you don't mind downloading that. But yeah, I would LOVE to see what you think could be done with it. All I've been doing is shooting from the hip and guessing so far...

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/GCHD-001.mkv

[MrVideo]

Yep, that is a crappy conversion to HD @ 25 fps. It looks like it came from a VHS source.

They didn't bother to IVTC the source before converting to 25 fps, hence the 2:3 pulldown frames showing up with combing. And yes, their standards converter melded frames. All of which you will not be able to get rid of.

I'd be interested in seeing the first TOC file of the DVD. Since DVD files are only 1 GB in size, that would be just fine.

[Sharc]

Oh wow, really...? Heh... I must've misunderstood what Sharc suggested I do then. How strange... I thought the IVTC was what was helping with all that combing and stuff.
Sorry, you don't understand, do you?
I did IVTC the DVD version because it was telecined. IVTC is not a general tool to "help with all that combing and stuff".
The "HD" crap which you want to "fix" now is the work of a moron. It is no longer telecined, just totally borked. Ditch it.

[gonca]

I read your posts at VH, and Sharc is correct.
The DVD might be a better candidate for "improvement"

[MrVideo]

I don't need a copy of a DVD TOC file, as Sharc has already dug into the DVD.

[Lathe]

Sorry, you don't understand, do you?
I did IVTC the DVD version because it was telecined. IVTC is not a general tool to "help with all that combing and stuff".
The "HD" crap which you want to "fix" now is the work of a moron. It is no longer telecined, just totally borked. Ditch it.

Heh, okay, okay, got it! :) I was just SO damn determined that I could do SOMETHING to make it look better, but I think I got as far as I could.

Sorry about that. I posted back about your code for the DVD that I could not call the Spotless or the Sharpen that you suggested. I got errors which I posted on VideoHelp. But yeah, I'm AM coming to the point where I'll try to work with the DVD now, thanks! I don't know if I'm quite onboard with the greyscale, but if I can get the Spotless/Sharpen working or something like it, then I can play around and see about that.

***EDIT

Okay, just ONE last gasp... :D (I promise, and I won't bring this up any more UNLESS you guys are so impressed that you just MIGHT have some more suggestions)

And then, I'll get to work on the DVD. But guys, honestly, in my stumbling around for the last week or so and hours and hours of trial and error (mostly error) I THINK I've got this li'l bugger looking pretty good, considering what I have to work with.

Now, please just take a quick look at this latest encode. I believe that SOMEHOW, God knows how, I've been able to get rid of a lot of the combing and crap, and I honestly think it looks quite a bit better. Tell me honestly what you think... Please forgive this ONE last attempt (Sharc) I KNOW I am industriously polishing a big turd, but it is my turd! (somehow that sounded better before I wrote it...)

Seriously, for this last time, tell me truthfully what you'all think - I think I could live with this. Here is the code I ended up using:

TComb(mode=2, fthreshC=6, othreshC=6)
DeNoise(getvar=false, var=120, evar=160, xgrid=5, ygrid=7)

vsMSharpen(threshold=2.0, strength=90.0, mask=false, luma=true, chroma=true)
WarpSharp(depth=128, blur=3, bump=128, cubic=0.6)

I noticed that after adding the WarpSharp (it was the only other sharpener I could get working...) the picture was looking more defined. I will research its settings to see if I can bump it up some more, but as it is, compared to what it was, I honestly think it isn't too bad...

Thanks too gonca and Mr.Video for all your help and input!

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/Encode002.mkv

***EDIT 2

Notice particularly the two close ups of Anthony Hopkins face around 1:30 and a few seconds later as he backs from the room.

[gonca]

Yep, you polished it
But it is still a turd (yours)
I've seen old up scaled DVDs look better
Work with the DVD

[Sharc]

Plastic look (overfiltered), blurry, combing artefacts, horrible colors .......
You're wasting your time, but to each his own :)

[Lathe]

You guys... Have some faith! :D

Well, FWIW I just got finished watching my highly polished turd. It is a damn good movie! Good ol' Levinson/Link and their brilliant convoluted Crime Thrillers (FWIW, a fairly obscure 1979 Telefilm called 'MURDER BY NATURAL CAUSES' that they did is even better than this one) I transfered (and polished it) many years ago to DVD. Great little film!

So, now that I've pretty much done the 'best' I could with the mangled HD print, I'm going to see what I can do with the DVD print. It's true that it doesn't have the multiple issues that the HD print has, but the print itself is SO washed out, especially if grey scaled, that honestly I think that would bother me in this particular case much more so than the weird issues with the HD print.

BUT... I do very much appreciate the input and help because it has helped me a lot to reacquaint myself with Avisynth and really helped me to get my plugins and all the supporting software in order. Actually, once I had my 'brilliant' AVS script put together, I did indeed drop it right into BDRB and had it do the encode. But, this time I used the Archive function which I should have used in the first place and everything came out pretty well considering...

I'll drop some screenshots here of what I ended up with. Other than flushed and waxy faces, I really don't think it turned out that bad. Also, watching it played as a Blu-ray through my OPPO player helped. I THINK it may have detected and incorporated more filters automatically in playback, thus perhaps helping some with any residual combing. On my ancient 50" Plasma though, it honestly looked pretty good.

This is the script I ended up using, purely by trial and error. I have like 3 strong sharpeners in a row, that was the best I could come up with, although I'm sure you guys could come up with better ones:

TComb(mode=2, fthreshC=6, othreshC=6)
DeNoise(getvar=false, var=120, evar=160, xgrid=5, ygrid=7)
vsMSharpen(threshold=2.0, strength=100.0, mask=false, luma=true, chroma=true)
LimitedSharpenFaster(strength=200, edgemode=0)
WarpSharp(depth=200, blur=3, bump=200, cubic=0.6)

For the most part, stationary surfaces came across very well, and overall I honestly didn't even notice any combing while watching the film. I think for this kind of 'Hip' 1985 Telefilm, the brighter and more robust presentation, although not the best, just seems to lend itself better than a more trouble free but super faded/washed out looking nearly B&W print - Now, if this were a Classic period 1940's Film Noir or something along those lines, that would be a completely different story of course.

It will be interesting (and hopefully instructive) now to start working on the DVD print just to see how 'good' I can get it to look. Maybe I will be surprised :)

A sincere 'Thank You' though for your guys' help and input, I'm still applying it as I go...

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[Lathe]

Okay, I am working with the DVD print now. I am using Sharc's suggested settings, but without the Greyscale and using the FluxSmooth plugin because I can't seem to get Spotless running, and I can't get MDegrain working either, so I left off any sharpeners for now. So, here is a comparison (so far) of what I've got with the DVD and a similar snapshot of the 'finished' HD print. I guess I can see where maybe with some more saturation and if I can figure out a good sharpener, I MIGHT get a better result. But, just as is, you can see the darker outlines, the sharper delineation, and just the deeper, richer colours of the HD print (for now...) There just seems to be more 'substance' there...

DVD print:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/O2fHSIeHdZjnRxDRcqIMhndHj3IZ30iE15ZXeSDBdOl39DkQtDvInfav9xT73ncay3yTZ5NCcf7e8DI1psk9K-VSiRdGV0Gu17M3Xomp16m2To4KDrzyDGpDm4j19vurxncIIFMK9oOWJdFofnMhBaJKmFie_zlwfotI-hZIxpy88Dy1RtXmuTJm1xL-vT5o40381LDkdHRZeODgeUbMXwpY0N3ldHhYc4542qRDXrJzHkV0EkiSMggwMM4LYAjiJumalY6002wcLXTfYPEc77Q02GookRluXz1OZAbegJCdzDwTZB3SgZAPE_m3sBrbWNCCXWpPJ6LSjOLDbgRe5bWgiBGZ3s_qWwo4csYa_0dE-mpcfLTuP6RQuvbpQZWFXu_8T-TzAlW2jB3PFf0KWeecA4a9he12Oyi9uxx-E5uhookTCCd2e5Ki1Q5Ff7FDWPqJtRLU-OsiPD5WbnRc_Tsdy0OjQwmGrM99-WcLgjepLkLdksEyiQ6FxicrwD-W8mM-uxx7mHX6o7HBittEd3bUH8GXur3SOSfC_z_fa31sWGMwxSprK2axzaB3BNaYguao6F2WWBddVjxlp_goI_XirAME0LUGpLmQQSfZOP_6Ih_cyZok0nbqk4bZO3y9WOadxYSiz24m_igR4NBEXDEDvKStygXDu0WOheb3hp80D0E8X3hqpeFXvWOGm8tMg5BNSd-4jLEwDF_jj1wzFNV7NaMpTHxVVQFKAn6AwxKQVkV6VEey-aS_fM8VZya_zzbmgMWzpvRp4K-NHpUtn6BedkY5wI9z3Wf1gz7wYbIsDNTbbj9sZhjXXnMZmkaVf2M1RkBqxsQEzSFYvaGcP1qvAbYjPYjOnQk8-mCVZoNZMtFDVIcdZ-OofoODWv-yul6QYqE9E468B_MVMDTPfMt-iBR3AOscx_DNOh0Ld-khKXbPlSUCD05FD3I2mFsnPNi7DOiAf0E4qZpMf4Xy=w853-h626-s-no?authuser=0

'Processed' HD print:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/d8zAVpNjRotctZUpv5DJWIsKOayxUutJ0n78hKqegIk9NCkUOFKD7LyddbiarlHZ1gVhqf50qKrMQFzp24yH4K0rs5a8F2oPmqCE2NnME3UixvvTaWBCwDyIccdVfVsqipHD90W9xPyw901Myxa6or-lzLjVVUCvN-wy8PvOXD17hy0XrcPaO3wuNGeDIUibR42Uf7vTDuHAw13WklLR4jsO2k8WcxZLRPhLre-qPdharpFv6ufIJjy5EetvMAoljvBG_1UmOPjjAbntDy45JagJmMw3qyWBCcryFVwNCP1FB8htCgYHQQEfoaex-YhD1nXS8zaY1pgv7HJqY6YD1Nfe0gRZ_hJunrUDCWtWHC06dOosoKkyzmTvFNscAn9TiumOvcUS0KiEyQdJhfHbVZdc04h7jpQhCIl6bSahfxNXCYp-NONpbMo44ekCXIWEHiT8hu5TKH_jgw8G3BB8T4QLHqJrSn2HvgsamvRprihs56ASVWtFXtCDUY9aO0xjzMykEE-bFCZ_8Jw1ONlutNu4JRbRMo7Zs1kzmb5RFwPQQFGWyD3ZNQ7sbPP7cQ_zpjtP7S0Gw8l0H74SczWJTc1ImlrJTGM8Z-Vy9jaaF-37-hxRYhKrmpX5_sWPxxs9dzK9l6mapkfzdSGZtRpt_fUGZy7MEIrMKcdWRp_DDBrsAHimOh9eVmoqINVA0KnxLOSMUaEvBlcgEp9CbF6ZskAFo5wPm7Cmksl-mmK9_KMcGk1XZHRkz-1hSUfLUIeTv5FBATWLFD4vCgRCyL3zToCgzKisWIeQXDjtbvF7E8m0Mh58vt2EP6moaT4VuGV160PYxK2iFmDdTxzPmmg0LoLif7uIiViYqj85yHXm6X7QQS4gy5H-SUFEXGowR1NFuYaOnMlVbnxpKPDPbLkoJGa57EIVHM5a185b3IrMmMDRkzovrURiQgiDC2wsJKVzhs27YKoyI3rI8SZANzXI=w1116-h628-s-no?authuser=0

[SeeMoreDigital]

Out of interest... What's the movie?

[Emulgator]

https://www.amazon.com/Guilty-Conscience-Slim-Anthony-Hopkins/dp/B000B6TSN8/

[cartman0208]

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/AVSSnippet.mkv

Do you have the original of that snippet available? 20FPS looks a bit off.
I'd like to give it a try with AI support ;-)

[MrVideo]

Do you have the original of that snippet available? 20FPS looks a bit off.
As pointed out in a posting, the 20fps was a result of doing IVTC on a video that didn't have 2:3 pulldown and was 25fps.

[jdobbs]

Just a note for anyone who has experienced an error when trying to import a file encoded with NVENCCRE into BD-RB to make a BD:

It is caused by a bug in MKVEXTRACT (a component of MKVTOOLNIX). It can be fixed by replacing MKVEXTRACT in the BD-RB TOOLS folder with the one in http://www.jdobbs.com/downloads/mkvextract.zip. I've tested this version and it works well with BD-RB.

[MrVideo]

Thanks for the update.

[magnexx]

Hello,

i have a Problem with BD Rebuilder v.0.61.28

I get always an the End this error:

[11:28:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:28:25] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[11:28:26] - Failed to REBUILD

Can anyone help me?

By the way, is BD Rebuilder still being updated and further developed? The last update was over a year ago. Will it eventually support QSVEnc and VCEEncC as well?

Thank you.

[MrVideo]

[11:28:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:28:25] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[11:28:26] - Failed to REBUILD
Did you look at the latest posting from jdobbs about mkvmerge?
By the way, is BD Rebuilder still being updated and further developed? The last update was over a year ago.
Sooner, or later, another update will happen.
Will it eventually support QSVEnc and VCEEncC as well?
I seriously doubt it. Software encoders are extremely slow. Using hardware encoding is extremely fast and produces great results.

[gonca]

Will it eventually support QSVEnc and VCEEncC as well?
Those might be Intel's and AMD's hardware encoders

[magnexx]

I seriously doubt it. Software encoders are extremely slow. Using hardware encoding is extremely fast and produces great results.

maybe my english is bad, but QSVEnc and VCEEncC are hardware encoder.

Those might be Intel's and AMD's hardware encoders
of course. QSVEnc is Intel and VCEEnc is AMD. I use BDRebuilder since 15 Years and this is the first time i usw another software, because BDRebuilder dosent work with intel or amd. only with nvidea.

[MrVideo]

Those might be Intel's and AMD's hardware encoders
I looked them up, but obviously didn't read far enough.

In order to support them, that would mean having to purchase different display cards for other computers. An expense I personally wouldn't do for a project without any real income.

[DoctorM]

FYI, I was rebuilding a remuxed MKV file back to Blu-ray today and BD Rebuilder couldn't handle the main audio track. It seems that because it was Dolby TrueHD without a DD core, tsMuxeR couldn't work with it.
I downloaded a nightly build and that fixed the issue. BD RB could use an update.

[KaraokeAmerica]

I'm trying to convert a Full SBS 3D file (ie a 3840x1080 2D file) to 3D MVC, but it's not working. I get the error....

I looked at the next several pages of comments but have still not seen a response to this. Did you figure this out?

[jdobbs]

FYI, I was rebuilding a remuxed MKV file back to Blu-ray today and BD Rebuilder couldn't handle the main audio track. It seems that because it was Dolby TrueHD without a DD core, tsMuxeR couldn't work with it.
I downloaded a nightly build and that fixed the issue. BD RB could use an update.If you updated it in the BD-RB folder, just don't complain here when one of your next jobs fails.

They've made numerous changes that change the way TSMUXER works -- making it unlikely (but not impossible, I guess) to be compatible with BD-RB. Apparently consistency with previous versions isn't a priority (at least at the command line level).

[Edit] Also -- creating a disc with a Dolby TrueHD audio track that doesn't contain a DD core violates the BD standard. It may work great on one player -- but fail on another. I wouldn't allow it within BD-RB for that reason as well.

[MrVideo]

If you updated it in the BD-RB folder, just don't complain here when one of your next jobs fails.
Correct. That is why I have two shortcuts: one that points to the original install and one that points to an install in which I have the tsMuxer changed out. I suggest that anyone else who has changed out the tsMuxer do the same.

[DeathStalker77]

I have 2 authored BDs in folder structure - both play perfectly fine - both run through DVDFab just fine. However BDRB does not recognize them as being BDs - not v0.61.28 or v0.50.25. I have also tried after running then through DVDFab, with the same result.

Any ideas???!

Thanks!

--- DS

[DoctorM]

If you updated it in the BD-RB folder, just don't complain here when one of your next jobs fails.

They've made numerous changes that change the way TSMUXER works -- making it unlikely (but not impossible, I guess) to be compatible with BD-RB. Apparently consistency with previous versions isn't a priority (at least at the command line level).

[Edit] Also -- creating a disc with a Dolby TrueHD audio track that doesn't contain a DD core violates the BD standard. It may work great on one player -- but fail on another. I wouldn't allow it within BD-RB for that reason as well.

Thanks. No, I didn't update TSMUXER in BDRB, I used it separately... and my test burn did fail to play.

[Ch3vr0n]

Been a while since i needed to use this. Recently built a new system and need to process a 3D disc. So naturally went to BDRB as there are no quality alternatives. I'm stuck on the REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT step. Will not register on W11Pro x64. (file cannot be found). Manually ran BDRB once as admin. Same effect?

Anything i need to enable again in hiddenopts to enable 3D support (in-mux)/blanking/multiprocess? Old system was based on a Z390 9900k GTX 1080, new one is Z790 13900k RTX 4090

[bjones]

Been a while since i needed to use this. Recently built a new system and need to process a 3D disc. So naturally went to BDRB as there are no quality alternatives. I'm stuck on the REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT step. Will not register on W11Pro x64. (file cannot be found). Manually ran BDRB once as admin. Same effect?

Anything i need to enable again in hiddenopts to enable 3D support (in-mux)/blanking/multiprocess? Old system was based on a Z390 9900k GTX 1080, new one is Z790 13900k RTX 4090

First you need to make sure you have the file MSCOMCTL.OCX on the system which is the target for the command. It's located @ c:\windows\SysWOW64 on my Win10x64 machine and how I did it

If it's there pull up an administrative command prompt and cd to that location then run the regsvr32 command that's in .bat file -
cd C:Windows\SysWOW64 (to change the current directory of Command Prompt)
regsvr32 mscomctl.ocx (to register MSCOMCTL.OCX on Windows 10)

If its not there there's a copy in the directory with BDRB you can place there

Hope this helps

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.61.29). Changes for this release:- Corrected an issue in which default AAC
encoding can fail when using fixed bitrates.
- Fixed an error in which resizing from the
SETTINGS menu while using NVENCC was not
working correctly.
- Added the ability to convert BD/DVD
subtitles to SRT in NVENCCRE. Note that it
requires that the program has access to the
same subfolders as BD-RB.
- Updated MKVEXTRACT.EXE to v7.1.0. The
previous version used had some issues with
AAC audio that was created with NVENCC. Can't
find any docs for MKVTOOLNIX that explains
why -- but the newer version fixed the issue.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[varekai]

Thanks! Much appreciated!

[raul124]

Thank you,

[whatever_gong82]

Thanks for the update.

[bjones]

Appreciate the update !

[bjones]

Added the ability to convert BD/DVD
subtitles to SRT in NVENCCRE. Note that it
requires that the program has access to the
same subfolders as BD-RB.

I think I stumbled on an issue with this. I'm trying to take an .mkv with PGS subs to .mp4 converted to timed text. It appears that the subtitle track gets combined into the chapters section. If I try to carry 2 subtitles over I end up with 2 chapter sections. Same settings except from mkv to mkv results in no subtitles coming over at all. Audio and Video are set at passthrough. The only change to the container I was wanting to make was convert the subs

Thanks if you can give it a look and tell me what I'm doing wrong - bjones

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.61.29). Changes for this release:[...]
- Fixed an error in which resizing from the
SETTINGS menu while using NVENCC was not
working correctly.
[...]

Thanks for this fix, jdobbs. I had experienced it but was convinced that it was somehow my own fault and never reported it.

[jdobbs]

Added the ability to convert BD/DVD
subtitles to SRT in NVENCCRE. Note that it
requires that the program has access to the
same subfolders as BD-RB.

I think I stumbled on an issue with this. I'm trying to take an .mkv with PGS subs to .mp4 converted to timed text. It appears that the subtitle track gets combined into the chapters section. If I try to carry 2 subtitles over I end up with 2 chapter sections. Same settings except from mkv to mkv results in no subtitles coming over at all. Audio and Video are set at passthrough. The only change to the container I was wanting to make was convert the subs

Thanks if you can give it a look and tell me what I'm doing wrong - bjonesI can't even imagine how that could happen???

Are you reencoding, or have to set the program to "Keep Original (Intact)"? If so, could you try it with another setting (H264 or H265)?

[bjones]

I can't even imagine how that could happen???

Are you reencoding, or have to set the program to "Keep Original (Intact)"? If so, could you try it with another setting (H264 or H265)?

Yes, keep original video and audio both intact, all I was trying to do was convert the subtitles from PGS to SRT just like it happens in alternate outputs with the convert subtitles setting checked in BDRB. Watching the job, nothing reencodes it just shows the audio and video copying over. If you look at the Mediainfo's I posted you'll see those both copy over correctly, it's when it gets to subtitles and chapters it get messed up. I have used both AVC and X265 material, makes no difference since the video portion copies directly over correctly

[jdobbs]

Yes, keep original video and audio both intact, all I was trying to do was convert the subtitles from PGS to SRT just like it happens in alternate outputs with the convert subtitles setting checked in BDRB. Watching the job, nothing reencodes it just shows the audio and video copying over. If you look at the Mediainfo's I posted you'll see those both copy over correctly, it's when it gets to subtitles and chapters it get messed up. I have used both AVC and X265 material, makes no difference since the video portion copies directly over correctlyAhh... that makes a difference. NVENCC doesn't actually have the ability to do the job and keep the video intact (it has to encode the video). So when you select "Keep Intact" for the video, the job is, in fact, being done by FFMPEG. I'll check the code and make sure FFMPEG is correctly handling the SRTs that are being created. I probably didn't test that scenario well enough.

I'll take a look at it and let you know what I find.

[Lathe]

Do you have the original of that snippet available? 20FPS looks a bit off.
I'd like to give it a try with AI support ;-)

Heh, I'm sorry Bro, but not getting any prompts for replies from Doom9, which I know it's been that way forever, I forgot to come back and check for comments, my humble apologies.

I don't think I have any of the snippets anymore, although I do have the original messed up HD file. I can extract and post another snippet if you wanna mess around with it. When I got it as good as I did I guess after spending all the hours and hours on it, I was done! :D

[Lathe]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.61.29). Changes for this release:- Corrected an issue in which default AAC
encoding can fail when using fixed bitrates.
- Fixed an error in which resizing from the
SETTINGS menu while using NVENCC was not
working correctly.
- Added the ability to convert BD/DVD
subtitles to SRT in NVENCCRE. Note that it
requires that the program has access to the
same subfolders as BD-RB.
- Updated MKVEXTRACT.EXE to v7.1.0. The
previous version used had some issues with
AAC audio that was created with NVENCC. Can't
find any docs for MKVTOOLNIX that explains
why -- but the newer version fixed the issue.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Thank you Sir!

[doobre]

Hi all
Can someone confirm whether it is possible to to encode a UHD 4K disc to a BD25 through the ALTERNATE MOVIE-ONLY setting within BD-RB.. version 0.61.28

AND IF SO based on my details below -
1. tell me where am I going wrong.?!
2. please point me in the right direction
cheers CD

I think I am following the current suggested process but ended up with an .mkv file of only 2.56gb and the colours/tones are all washed out.!

here is the log file
-----------------------------------------------
[07/09/23] BD Rebuilder v0.61.28
[01:48:39] Source: 00001_00000
- Input BD size: 82.39 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:49:04.217]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- UHD-BD source detected.
- Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[01:48:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:48:39] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [01:48:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [02:07:20] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 243,218 frames
- [02:07:20] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:13:28] Video Encode complete
- [08:13:28] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
[08:13:33]PHASE ONE complete
[08:13:33]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:13:33] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[08:15:27] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[08:15:28] JOB: 00001 finished.
--------------------------------------------------------
here is the BDREBUILDER.ini settings
---------------------------------------------------------
[Options]
VERSION=0.61.0.28
ALTERNATE_BLURAY=1
ENCODER=0
FORCE_NOENCODE=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
PRIORITY_CLASS=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=1
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=50000
NVENC_CAPABLE=1
MENU_BACKGROUND=D:\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
MENU_AUDIO=D:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\blankclip\blank.ac3
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=15
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=10
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_AUTO_DVDAUDIO=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1
IMPORT_LIMIT_LANG=1
IMPORT_KEEP_PLAYALL=0
IMPORT_PREPARE_MKV=0
AUTO_BURN=2
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=10
ALTCRF=23
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALT_CRF_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=H:\RENDERS\BD-RB RENDER\IMPORTS\00001\
WORKING_PATH=H:\RENDERS\BD-RB RENDER\
----------------------------------------------------
here is the LASTCMD.txt report
--------------------------------------------------
"E:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "H:\RENDERS\BD-RB RENDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset medium --bluray-compat --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --slow-firstpass --qpmin=0 --crf 23 --level 4.1 --qpfile "H:\RENDERS\BD-RB RENDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "H:\RENDERS\BD-RB RENDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --output "H:\RENDERS\BD-RB RENDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"
-----------------------------------------------
here is the ALTERNATE MOVIE-ONLY settings
------------------------------------------------------
attachment

[jdobbs]

Don't select ALTERNATE OUTPUT. That is for sending to an MKV, MP4, etc. Select either FULL BACKUP or MOVIE-ONLY BACKUP (and uncheck ALTERNATE OUTPUT). You should also make sure you have OUTPUT set to BD-25.

[doobre]

Thank you for the prompt reply, much appreciated.. I'll give it a go tonight.. cheers CD

[doobre]

Hi there again... I must be doing something weird..! or perhaps didn't explain correctly...

The file output was the right size for a BD-25 and the HDR tones/colours are correct... but it is still 2160p HEVC/265.

I was expecting 1080p and AVC/264.

here is the BD-REBUILDER log
-----------------------------------
[07/09/23] BD Rebuilder v0.61.28
[15:19:05] Source: INTERSTELLAR_T00_00000
- Input BD size: 70.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:49:04.217]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), 1-Pass VBR
- UHD-BD source detected.
- Decoding/Frame serving: NVENCC
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[15:19:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:19:07] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [15:19:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:36:07] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 243,218 frames
- Bitrate: 17,284 Kbs
- [15:36:08] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:49:01] Video Encode complete
- [16:49:01] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[16:52:47]PHASE ONE complete
[16:52:47]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:52:47] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:57:45] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[16:57:45] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- INTERSTELLAR_T00 folder removed.
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[17:05:57] JOB: INTERSTELLAR_T00 finished.
-------------------------------------------------
here is the LASTCMD.txt
--------------------------------------------------
"E:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe" --avhw --fps 23.976 -i "D:\EXPORTS\MakeMKV Export\Interstellar 4K rip\Interstellar_t00.mkv" --codec hevc --preset quality --profile main10 --output-depth 10 --repeat-headers --chromaloc 2 --colorprim bt2020 --transfer smpte2084 --colormatrix bt2020nc --master-display G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(40000000,50) --max-cll 1242,436 --qp-min 0 --vbr 17284 --aq --aq-temporal --keyfile "H:\RENDERS\BD-RB RENDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --sar 1:1 --aud --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 45000 --max-bitrate 48000 --lookahead 24 --no-b-adapt --gop-len 24 -o "H:\RENDERS\BD-RB RENDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.hevc"
-----------------------------------------------

[MrVideo]

The file output was the right size for a BD-25 and the HDR tones/colours are correct... but it is still 2160p HEVC/265.

I was expecting 1080p and AVC/264.

Not gonna happen. By specification, HDR is only available in 2160p/HEVC. Streamed MKV files can be 1080p/HDR, but can only be HEVC. That is because HDR is only available in HEVC. The H.264 spec does not support HDR.

What have you got against 2160p?

[doobre]

Hi there Mr.V.. thanks for the confirmation.
Nothing against HEVC, but my older player will not play it, only 264 flavour discs and files.. So wondering about the possibility of creating 4K in a 264 jacket, tis all..
cheers CD

[bjones]

Ahh... that makes a difference. NVENCC doesn't actually have the ability to do the job and keep the video intact (it has to encode the video). So when you select "Keep Intact" for the video, the job is, in fact, being done by FFMPEG. I'll check the code and make sure FFMPEG is correctly handling the SRTs that are being created. I probably didn't test that scenario well enough.

I'll take a look at it and let you know what I find.

I'm sure you want to figure out the weird subtitles/chapters mashup on that probably 1 off use case.

Can you consider an Alternate Movie-only option for the alternate.txt file that does no video encode and just a straight video intact (like the intact audio one) or is there a trick with existing options or a combination of them I could use to accomplish that that I'm missing? If that was possible then the existing BDRB setup checkbox for converting subtitles via SubtitleEdit would accomplish the PGS to SRT conversion like it does beautifully on all the other alternate encode options which is my end goal.

What I started off trying was the Movie-only option but the subtitles don't convert in that mode and I'm guessing the reason why is then the resultant BD structure wouldn't be Blu-ray compliant anymore with SRT instead of PGS subtitles?

Also the intact audio option that's limited to .mkv's could probably have the restriction lifted since .mp4's no longer have those audio problems I've found.

PM if interested in the 'why', I'm stumbled across something pretty interesting but I don't want to load up the thread