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jdobbs
10th April 2010, 13:58
Hi i just tried this program, it converted my bd perfectly (it was only a 27gb file i shrunk down for a bd-25)

However, my computer has no Sound anymore when trying to play Video files.... no program will play a video file, the video plays just the sound is nil

i can still have sounds from say mp3's and windows sounds (test file sounds work as well for the speakers) youtube works too

its just my avi's mkv's m2ts etc It has to be something outside of BD-RB. I'd look at any other installations or configuration changes you may have made recentely. BD Rebuilder makes no changes to your system related to audio at all. It doesn't even use the system codecs to decode audio, it uses NicAudio.dll via AVISYNTH.

You may also want to check FFDSHOW's audio configuration and see what is and is not enabled.

jdobbs
10th April 2010, 19:44
Hi Jdobbs,

Did you find anytime to look at this issue of the forced subs missing after resizing from 1080p to 720p?

I tested the latest v0.33.04 (beta) and the forced subs are still not display separately from the main subs. Forced subs are still working correctly if 1080p size in not resized down to 720p.

A good latest movie to test on is "2012" at 1hr:19mins where they talk in Chinese.

Many thanks Was it a movie-only encode where you had to select the sub to default on, or a full backup?

Discoboy
10th April 2010, 20:30
I’ve never used BD_RB to default the subs to be on. I just select the main English sub which will include the forced subs in it.

I only ever run movie only projects.

For a 1080p movie only project the forced subs only will automatically be shown on my players.

For a 720p resized movie only project the forced subs will not automatically be shown. You have to additionally select the subs to be shown by the player, but then the players shows all subs and not just the forced subs and so not want I wanted to archive.

It seems to me that during BD_RB’s resizing the subs are resized but the forced subs are somehow not being defaulted to being ON separately when played on a player.

I hope the above make sense to you?

If you need more info just ask?

jdobbs
10th April 2010, 21:24
I’ve never used BD_RB to default the subs to be on. I just select the main English sub which will include the forced subs in it.

I only ever run movie only projects.

For a 1080p movie only project the forced subs only will automatically be shown on my players.

For a 720p resized movie only project the forced subs will not automatically be shown. You have to additionally select the subs to be shown by the player, but then the players shows all subs and not just the forced subs and so not want I wanted to archive.

It seems to me that during BD_RB’s resizing the subs are resized but the forced subs are somehow not being defaulted to being ON separately when played on a player.

I hope the above make sense to you?

If you need more info just ask? Hmmm... I'll have to think about this one and do some research. I didn't think any subs could force on (except hard subs that are in the film) in a movie-only encode by default (I have to tell it do to so).

Discoboy
10th April 2010, 21:42
If it helps you to locate the problem and or a work around for it. I’ve found that RipBot264 seems to have a way around this issue:

When using Ripbot264 to process this movie and after extracting the subs if there are any forced subs it creates 2 separate sub files for selection and loading into the encoding project i.e. subs and forced_subs.

So you can just select the forced_subs and not the main subs.

If you then want to resize from 1080p to 720p, RipBot automatically resizes the forced_subs file for you.

jdobbs
10th April 2010, 21:46
If it helps you to locate the problem and or a work around for it. I’ve found that RipBot264 seems to have a way around this issue:

When using Ripbot264 to process this movie and after extracting the subs if there are any forced subs it creates 2 separate sub files for selection and loading into the encoding project i.e. subs and forced_subs.

So you can just select the forced_subs and not the main subs.

If you then want to resize from 1080p to 720p, RipBot automatically resizes the forced_subs file for you.Thanks. I'll do some testing with "2012" and figure it out.

Discoboy
10th April 2010, 21:51
I understood there to be 3 types of subs:

1. Hardcoded types in the film such as location names, dates and times info in the movie

2. Forced subs that pop-up during a different language dialog otherwise you would not know what was being said

3. Standard subs which you turn on with the player if you want complete subs on thorough the film even though the language is the same

Hookahice
10th April 2010, 23:37
Hi Everyone,

First I would like to say THANK YOU for this awesome program!!! jdobbs, you are the fucking man for getting us thus far with BD Rebuilder. Great work!
I have been testing BD Rebuilder for many months now and have successfully re-encoded over 100 Blu-Rays.
Here are some of the feedbacks/bugs I have encountered overtime using BD Rebuilder, hopefully some can be fixed for the next version. If you notice however, that some things are wrong on my end, please let me know.

My Configuration:
I use ONLY the BD 25GB output option since I only burn movies on my blank 25GB BD's.
My testing device is PS3. I don't consider my computer BD burner/drive as a testing device since I have seen many times that computers with BD drives sometimes CAN play BD's that have wrong BD structure or will not play on standalone players but are fine on the computer.
So if it works on my PS3, it also works on my friend's Sony standalone player and I place the movie in my "verified & works" BD's spindle.
INSPECT.EXE:
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

All other settings are default. Nothing has been changed or modified in the ini file. (worked fine for the 100+ BD's I have done so far...) The only thing that I change back and forth is weather I want a "Full" or "Movie-Only" encodes. Which all still remain @ 25GB output.


So let's get to the bugs/problems:

Issue 1 - Disk Space:
If the working folder (Drives) runs out of space while in the process of re-encode, BD Rebuilder freezes (not-responding). It would be nice to have a message regarding this error + prompt a message with 2 options: "Abort" & "Retry". This way I can move some files (other junk in the drive somewhere else) and click "Retry" after I know I freed up some space to continue process...

Issue 2 - Foreign Characters:
Some of the BD's that I am trying to re-encode are not A1 region but C3. That means that the title/label may have a foreign characters in it (even though it is an American movie).

This causes BD Rebuilder to display ???? in its GUI interface (in place where the title goes) and in turn generate an error when the re-encoding process starts and Command Prompt is opened to remux the audio into the working folder. The reason this is happening is because Windows file system cannot create a folder with the "?" character since it's considered invalid. And BD Rebuilder creates a folder based on the title name which in this case is ????
See attached file (WinSharLimit) to see you cannot create a folder with special characters.

It would be nice to have the Unicode enabled/integrated but if it's too much work, have "Unidentified" instead of ???? or some other title that replaces "?" characters.

Issue 3 - Subtitles:
Often with all the movies I re-encode to fit on my 25GB BD's, I tend to remove other subtitles which I don't need. (Only need English). Everything goes as usual however when I test my BD on my PS3, and click the subtitle option, it goes from 1.English to 2.Spanish, 3. French and so on... only that the actual subtitles which works (displays) is only English. Others just stay blank.
It seems like that BD Rebuilder DOES remove the subtitles but doesn't remove the reference (or link) in the options. So if a movie has for instance 20 language subtitles, and you chose to remove 19 leaving English only - you have to scroll through 20 subtitle options in the PS3 which 19 of them are not even there... see what I'm saying - hopefully I made myself clear and not too confusing...

Issue 4 - Sherlock Holmes BD:
I have Sherlock Holmes BD which I am trying to re-encode (movie-only, not Full) into 25GB and 15 minutes into the process the following error:
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[03:15:39] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: SHERLOCK_HOLMES_2009_BLURAY_1080P_VC-1_DTS-HD_MA_5.1
- Input BD size: 25.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:24.738]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[03:15:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:15:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00155]
- [03:28:46] Reencoding: VID_00155 (1 of 23)
- [03:28:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,645 frames
- Bitrate: 22,440 Kbs
- [03:28:46] Reencoding: VID_00155, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[03:31:51] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any suggestions with this - nothing different with what I am doing here usually???


Issue 5 - New Rambo Film BD:
This is a problem that I encountered only with this film so far and it's very wired. :confused:
I also want to note that I have not re-tested the re-encoding of this with the new version of BD Rebuilder. It was done 2 months ago with an older version that was out at the time (can't remember which one)
So the problem is that when I tried to recode this film (can't remember if it was full or Movie-only) the disc starts playing normally on my PS3 but once it gets to "chapter 2" into the movie, the audio suddenly switches to the director's commentary audio track which the video remains the same but I start hearing all the comments made by the director on each scene. Skipping to Chapter 3 get it back to the normal sound track but it happens every few selected chapters (not random) which is very weird. It seems during the re-encode/remux of this film in BD Rebuilder, it associated the wrong audio tracks to the wrong video tracks... is this something that was resolved in the new (current) versions of BD Rebuilder? Or is it something on my end I am doing wrong?


Thanks for taking the time and reading this long thread.
This program is excellent, much appreciation!!!
-Liran
:thanks:

Ch3vr0n
11th April 2010, 00:31
about your issue nr 4. you don't have FFDShow set correctly for VC-1 video. Wich is probably the culprit. Go to the very first post and follow instructions. Search for VC-1 if you have to :)

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 02:24
I understood there to be 3 types of subs:

1. Hardcoded types in the film such as location names, dates and times info in the movie

2. Forced subs that pop-up during a different language dialog otherwise you would not know what was being said

3. Standard subs which you turn on with the player if you want complete subs on thorough the film even though the language is the same True, but I still thought you'd have to turn the forced subs on with a register just like a normal sub. Maybe I got it wrong.

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 02:36
@Hookahice

Issue 1: I'll try to see what I can do, but at the time you usually run out of disc space it's usually X264 that is running. I guess I can look and see what space is remaining before starting.

Issue 2: Not sure how that could happen unless the O/S is returning that value to me. I'll do a scrub and look for the "?" character and replace it with somethign (I already do that with some other characters).

Issue 3: Probably not much I can do. In order to remove all references (rather than just the stream), I'd probably have to put some type of AI into analyzing the commands of the virtual machine also... that can get a little hairy.

Issue 4: The reason I recommend using "wmv9" for VC-1 is because other codecs seem to fail on certain types of VC-1 sources. With your choice you are using whatever default sits behind FFDSHOW... which is probably WMP-12, but it's unpredictable.

Issue 5: Does that disc have secondary audio (PiP)? I think there may be some remaining issues with my handling of PiP. I'm working on a post rebuild scanner that changes PiP audio tracks back to their original PID -- that may fix it.

Discoboy
11th April 2010, 07:27
True, but I still thought you'd have to turn the forced subs on with a register just like a normal sub. Maybe I got it wrong.

If that is the case then you have BD_RB programmed correctly for 1080p (i.e. a non-resized movie) as the forced subs are defaulted to on when the output is played on a player and the standard subs and defaulted to off.

It’s when you resize to 720P with BD_RB that the programming of BD_RB gets it wrong and turns off the forced subs of the output and combines the forced_subs with the normal subs.

So you have to enable subs to on with the players, but it then plays both subs at once and not just the force_subs.

Discoboy
11th April 2010, 07:47
@Hookahice

Issue 3 - Subtitles:

In the “Setup” menu of BD-RB in the “Subtitle Languages to Keep:” do you have:

- Only “English (eng)” checkbox set to ON and ALL other Subtitle Language checkboxes set to OFF?
- The “Limit to one track for each language” option checkbox set to ON?

This is how I have BD-RB setup and I only then see 1 option of English subs on my player.

PhilippeB
11th April 2010, 15:48
I am having a strange issue with Lord of the ring - Fellowship of the Ring, and Return of the King.

I setted up the 3 movies to backup as 'Full' in BD-RD. Two towers went fine, but Fellowship of the ring and Return of the king came out with english audio tracks only, although i specified both english and french audio tracks.

At first, i though this was an error in my attention so i deleted every temporary files and re-done it again, this time being very torough how i setted up everything.

Now it came out (Again) a second time without French audio tracks.

Two towers makes it ok however. All 3 disks are comming from the same box set so i don't understand what is happening.

Also, i of course verified the originals with TS Muxer and they do have 2 audio tracks. English in Master audio 6.1 and French as Dolby digital 440kbps.

My settings are as follow:
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ang;eng;enm;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24500

:thanks:

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 16:37
I am having a strange issue with Lord of the ring - Fellowship of the Ring, and Return of the King.

I setted up the 3 movies to backup as 'Full' in BD-RD. Two towers went fine, but Fellowship of the ring and Return of the king came out with english audio tracks only, although i specified both english and french audio tracks.

At first, i though this was an error in my attention so i deleted every temporary files and re-done it again, this time being very torough how i setted up everything.

Now it came out (Again) a second time without French audio tracks.

Two towers makes it ok however. All 3 disks are comming from the same box set so i don't understand what is happening.

Also, i of course verified the originals with TS Muxer and they do have 2 audio tracks. English in Master audio 6.1 and French as Dolby digital 440kbps.

My settings are as follow:
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ang;eng;enm;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24500

:thanks: What language does BD-RB see and display in the streams list?

DarWun
11th April 2010, 19:29
True, but I still thought you'd have to turn the forced subs on with a register just like a normal sub. Maybe I got it wrong.

I recently did BD9 movie only backups of Angels and Demons, 2012, and District 9. All three movies have forced subtitles for non-english dialogue as a PGS track that is separate from the tracks with full subtitles. Rather than trying to figure out which track is the forced one by trial and error, I backed up these movies with all english subtitles selected. On playback of the backups, the forced subtitles are automatically on. I don't have to do anything to enable them.

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 20:21
I recently did BD9 movie only backups of Angels and Demons, 2012, and District 9. All three movies have forced subtitles for non-english dialogue as a PGS track that is separate from the tracks with full subtitles. Rather than trying to figure out which track is the forced one by trial and error, I backed up these movies with all english subtitles selected. On playback of the backups, the forced subtitles are automatically on. I don't have to do anything to enable them.Good to know. Thanks.

kalle2k3
11th April 2010, 20:49
For 2012, i can say that there are some captions forced inside the main english sub, there is no extra track for those forced subs. From my experience, only the presence of a forced caption inside a sub track or pure forced sub track will display the subs.

DarWun
11th April 2010, 21:10
For 2012, i can say that there are some captions forced inside the main english sub, there is no extra track for those forced subs. From my experience, only the presence of a forced caption inside a sub track or pure forced sub track will display the subs.

That's strange. I'll have to go back and take a look at the subtitles. I created an MKV of 2012 to put on my media server around the same time I backed the movie up with BD-Rebuilder. I had extracted all of the PGS subtitles and converted them to sub/idx files. The main english subs did not appear to have any forced subs so I ignored them. I found one PGS which contained what I thought were all the subs for non-english dialogue, so I included it in the MKV. I got subtitles in the first scene where chinese was spoken, so I thought all was good. I haven't bothered to watch the movie much past that point, so there very well could be scenes later in the movie where subtitles will be missing.

Discoboy
11th April 2010, 21:26
For 2012, i can say that there are some captions forced inside the main english sub, there is no extra track for those forced subs. From my experience, only the presence of a forced caption inside a sub track or pure forced sub track will display the subs.

I 2nd that.
That's exactly what I found with 2012 and why I reported the bug of the forced_subs being defaulted to off when down sized to 720p

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 21:57
I"m re-doing this movie. After it was done it looks like 33.02 sticks an extra mpls in there that's part of the extras.

00047 is wrong and not shown in BDedit

I'm using tssplitter now, which may have been how I did it before

edit; actually there are several 47, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20 and 21 they are nearly every other one placed incorrectlyI think you're looking at a different MPLS than the one selected in BD-RB.

Are you saying you are doing some sort of preprocessing before you run it through BD-RB?

PhilippeB
11th April 2010, 22:37
What language does BD-RB see and display in the streams list?

Before i start, it displays English and french for both Languages and subtitles. They are automatically selected due to my preferences.

But when the job is done, there is only English remaining in audio, and both PGS (presentation graphic streams / subtitles) english and french are muxed.

I started a workaround, i demuxed the original streams with TxMuxer to salvage the french audio track, then trying to remux with the previous result of BD RB but it won'T fit a BD.

One other workaround i though is redo the job again with BDRB telling it to compress 600Meg less than actual, then take the incomplete result at the end and then be able to add the french language track.

Theses two titles are the very first one to behave like that - never had this problem before.

Hookahice
11th April 2010, 23:28
Thank you jdobbs & Discoboy!
The issue with the subtitles is now resolved. All I had to do is to checkmark English only under the “Subtitle Languages to Keep” and checkmark the "Limit to one track for each language" under Options in BD Rebuilder as Discoboy suggested -that did it. Silly me...

I have also set "wmv9" for VC-1 in the FFDSHOW settings which fixed the issue with the Sherlock Holms Blu-Ray encode issue. Thanks again.

I will have to check Rambo BD and see if it does indeed have a secondary audio (PiP) and get back to this soon.
But thanks guys.

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 00:28
Before i start, it displays English and french for both Languages and subtitles. They are automatically selected due to my preferences.

But when the job is done, there is only English remaining in audio, and both PGS (presentation graphic streams / subtitles) english and french are muxed.

I started a workaround, i demuxed the original streams with TxMuxer to salvage the french audio track, then trying to remux with the previous result of BD RB but it won'T fit a BD.

One other workaround i though is redo the job again with BDRB telling it to compress 600Meg less than actual, then take the incomplete result at the end and then be able to add the french language track.

Theses two titles are the very first one to behave like that - never had this problem before. Are you doing the encode via batch mode or regular mode?

PhilippeB
12th April 2010, 00:32
Are you doing the encode via batch mode or regular mode?

Both times it was batch.

Also, everytime i start a batch, i cleanup (delete) everything that is in the destination folder to prevent anything from a previous job to interfere.

I can start it 'Single' this time to see if it works. I'll let you know tomorrow only because this one takes 10 hours to make in maximum quality mode (it is a 3H movie).

:thanks:

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 01:15
Both times it was batch.

Also, everytime i start a batch, i cleanup (delete) everything that is in the destination folder to prevent anything from a previous job to interfere.

I can start it 'Single' this time to see if it works. I'll let you know tomorrow only because this one takes 10 hours to make in maximum quality mode (it is a 3H movie).

:thanks: Ahh... that helps. When you load the batch, is the french selected (during the encode)? One thing to remember (you probably already know this) -- when a job is added to batch, any changes made after the instant it was added to the queue has no affect.

Jake802
12th April 2010, 13:01
I know I am doing something wrong and stupid here but I am having trouble reading the log file,can someone point me in the right direction. This is what I get when I got to do full disc backup of Watchmen Directors Cut...

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[07:59:58] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:31:32.192]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:00:00] Exited per user request.
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[08:00:51] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[08:00:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:00:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00524]
- [08:00:55] Reencoding: VID_00524 (1 of 50)
- [08:00:55] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [08:01:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 29 frames
- [08:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00524, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3274, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[08:01:01] - Failed video encode, aborted

colinhunt
12th April 2010, 13:06
v0.33.04 produced an error I've never seen before. Source is UK release of Life disc 1 (1080i50 with DTS-HD HR audio). Movie only, selected playlist which includes all three episodes.

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[14:39:45] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: LIFE_D1
- Input BD size: 40,70 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:56:28.000]
- Target BD size: 23,49 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:39:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- Error in attempt to MKVMERGE.
[14:51:33] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

update: Same thing happened with 0.33.02.

Dirk Diggler
12th April 2010, 14:24
I know I am doing something wrong and stupid here but I am having trouble reading the log file,can someone point me in the right direction. This is what I get when I got to do full disc backup of Watchmen Directors Cut...

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[07:59:58] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:31:32.192]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:00:00] Exited per user request.
-----------------------
[08:00:51] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[08:00:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:00:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00524]
- [08:00:55] Reencoding: VID_00524 (1 of 50)
- [08:00:55] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [08:01:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 29 frames
- [08:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00524, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3274, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[08:01:01] - Failed video encode, aborted

Where did you get your HAALI Splitter from? If you used the one from the first post it should work. Something changed in the latest version of HAALI Splitter and breaks BD-Rebuilder

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 14:51
I know I am doing something wrong and stupid here but I am having trouble reading the log file,can someone point me in the right direction. This is what I get when I got to do full disc backup of Watchmen Directors Cut...

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[07:59:58] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:31:32.192]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
...
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3274, not recommended version
...
[08:01:01] - Failed video encode, aborted It's telling you in the output exactly what your problem is. Correct your setup to the recommended versions.

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 14:55
v0.33.04 produced an error I've never seen before. Source is UK release of Life disc 1 (1080i50 with DTS-HD HR audio). Movie only, selected playlist which includes all three episodes.

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[14:39:45] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: LIFE_D1
- Input BD size: 40,70 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:56:28.000]
- Target BD size: 23,49 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:39:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- Error in attempt to MKVMERGE.
[14:51:33] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

update: Same thing happened with 0.33.02. There are certain types of VC-1 field-based sources that HAALI/FFDSHOW cannot decode properly from an M2TS source. So BD-RB has to use MKVMERGE to output it to an MKV (which is then used as input for the reencoding). It appears that MKVMERGE is having trouble trying to understand the source M2TS in 00106.m2ts.

I see your source is 1080i/50... so I don't think I'll be able to get my hands on the exact version you're using -- so the best I can do is try the US version of that disc and see if it has any issues.

colinhunt
12th April 2010, 16:00
There are certain types of VC-1 field-based sources that HAALI/FFDSHOW cannot decode properly from an M2TS source.
So it would appear, as this disc is causing severe headaches to multiAVCHD as well. The first episode alone has several scenes where bitrates climb extremely high, and those scenes come out severely garbled in x264's output for BD25. BDinfo reports max 1-sec rates such as 49 074, 50 677 and even 56 013 kbps.

I see your source is 1080i/50... so I don't think I'll be able to get my hands on the exact version you're using -- so the best I can do is try the US version of that disc and see if it has any issues.
US version is very likely to have a different framerate, methinks.

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 16:32
So it would appear, as this disc is causing severe headaches to multiAVCHD as well. The first episode alone has several scenes where bitrates climb extremely high, and those scenes come out severely garbled in x264's output for BD25. BDinfo reports max 1-sec rates such as 49 074, 50 677 and even 56 013 kbps.


US version is very likely to have a different framerate, methinks. You may want to try outputting to MKV first -- as that has fixed it all the cases I've tried. You still wouldn't be able to feed directly into X264, as FFMS2 doesn't support field-based interlacing yet either, but FFDSHOW via AVISYNTH's DirectShowSource() and "wmv9" seems to work with the US sources that I've found.

I'd be interested to know if it works with your source.

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 16:53
I think you're looking at a different MPLS than the one selected in BD-RB.

Are you saying you are doing some sort of preprocessing before you run it through BD-RB?@datman

I picked up "Deja Vu" confirmed this. BD-RB is selecting playlist 00050 by default and the streams listed are correct for that playlist.

If you want to encode using the other playlist, go into "Alternate Movie-Only Playlist" and select playlist 00030.

colinhunt
12th April 2010, 19:13
You may want to try outputting to MKV first -- as that has fixed it all the cases I've tried. You still wouldn't be able to feed directly into X264, as FFMS2 doesn't support field-based interlacing yet either, but FFDSHOW via AVISYNTH's DirectShowSource() and "wmv9" seems to work with the US sources that I've found.
You mean encapsulating the original VC-1 video stream in MKV first, then feeding that to x264 via FFDShow and AVISYNTH's DirectShowSource().... or?

PhilippeB
12th April 2010, 19:40
Ahh... that helps. When you load the batch, is the french selected (during the encode)? One thing to remember (you probably already know this) -- when a job is added to batch, any changes made after the instant it was added to the queue has no affect.

Yes it was - it is always as i alwas rebuild with two languages.
For batch mode, yes, i noticed that preferences were 'buffed' for each item (don't remember where i saw that though) and it does make sense.

3 more hours to go in 'single mode', i'll let you know if it works in 'single mode'.

If it still don'T work, i'll install the very last version (3304) as i'm still running 3208.

:thanks:

turbojet
12th April 2010, 19:59
With the 2012 forced subs issue it seems to me like TSMuxer isn't keeping the forced flag when resizing. BDSup2Sub is reported to keep it. I'd test if I had access to a forced flag sup.

PhilippeB
12th April 2010, 23:13
Yes it was - it is always as i alwas rebuild with two languages.
For batch mode, yes, i noticed that preferences were 'buffed' for each item (don't remember where i saw that though) and it does make sense.

3 more hours to go in 'single mode', i'll let you know if it works in 'single mode'.

If it still don'T work, i'll install the very last version (3304) as i'm still running 3208.

:thanks:

Jdobbs, i Finally finished Return of the King.
BD-RB DOES the job right if i go in single (not batch) mode. But there is definitly an issue with batch mode.

Now i recall i did made two towers in single mode (and it passed) and i had pushed both fellowship of the ring and return of the kind to batch, and french track disapeared.

-> To confirm that, remember i re-did the exercise and it did fail again in batch mode.

Finally, single mode passes. But why won't it do the job correctly in batch mode ? This is a complete mystery.

BTW it does that only with theses particular titles so far, as i have tested many other titles during the weekend and they all went well (both languaged tracks were kept).
Only Lord of the ring (i asume now any of the 3 titles) ran through batch mode will loose French (even if selected).

May i provide any further hints on what has gone wrong in batch mode, let me know. Meanwhile, i'll be keeping theses in 'single' mode.

From now on, i do an extra step at the end of any title, i drag and drop the final m2ts file over ts_muxer to make sure all languages had been included (see ? I had developped a new paranoia ! =)

:thanks:

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 23:47
Jdobbs, i Finally finished Return of the King.
BD-RB DOES the job right if i go in single (not batch) mode. But there is definitly an issue with batch mode.

Now i recall i did made two towers in single mode (and it passed) and i had pushed both fellowship of the ring and return of the kind to batch, and french track disapeared.

-> To confirm that, remember i re-did the exercise and it did fail again in batch mode.

Finally, single mode passes. But why won't it do the job correctly in batch mode ? This is a complete mystery.

BTW it does that only with theses particular titles so far, as i have tested many other titles during the weekend and they all went well (both languaged tracks were kept).
Only Lord of the ring (i asume now any of the 3 titles) ran through batch mode will loose French (even if selected).

May i provide any further hints on what has gone wrong in batch mode, let me know. Meanwhile, i'll be keeping theses in 'single' mode.

From now on, i do an extra step at the end of any title, i drag and drop the final m2ts file over ts_muxer to make sure all languages had been included (see ? I had developped a new paranoia ! =)

:thanks: The only thing BD-RB does differently in batch mode is save/read an entry in BDBATCH.INI that lists the selections. Maybe there are just an extreme number of selections and they won't fit..

Can you please set it up again and add the job to your batch file -- and then send me a copy of BDBATCH.INI? Send it to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com.

Jake802
13th April 2010, 01:58
Thanks! I knew I was overlooking something!

ezoch
13th April 2010, 08:34
Seems like new 2010 movies with PIP commentary features have problems with bd25 encoding. I had problems with Public Enemies Region A using bdrebuilder v0.32.08 all works perfectly until 5 minutes 30 seconds the movie get freeze, i can rewind or forward some seconds with the remote in my sony bdp-bx2 but then it freeze again in just a few seconds. Someone had succesful with this movie? i need help to see if there is a common problem or was just me.
Thanks in advance.

gwendal13
13th April 2010, 17:40
The only thing BD-RB does differently in batch mode is save/read an entry in BDBATCH.INI that lists the selections. Maybe there are just an extreme number of selections and they won't fit..

Can you please set it up again and add the job to your batch file -- and then send me a copy of BDBATCH.INI? Send it to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com.

I confirm in batchmode audio tracks are all reselected.

robinsj
13th April 2010, 21:05
jdobbs, is there anyway to implement a feature that you can just select the main movie to not be encoded, and only encode the extras, but you can still select audio/subtitles to be ripped from the main movie? Somewhat like how DVD shrink works. I love the software, but I don't want to compress the main movie, but would like to compress the extras and rip the extra audios out, while keeping the menu and such.... Thanks!!

theria05
14th April 2010, 00:07
BD Rebuilder works several times for me in the past, but now I get a windows popup error message "wavi.exe has stopped working"

Here is the lines a get in the log before the error :

[19:02:05] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: 82860856_DAVE_MATTHEWS_DISC_1
- Input BD size: 40.47 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:55:19.901]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:02:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:02:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [19:02:08] Reencoding: VID_00012 (1 of 4)

And this is from the cmd window:

C:\BD_Rebuilder>"C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\wavi.exe" "D:\WORKING\WORKFILES\AUD_00012
_4352.AVS" - | "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\aften.exe" -v 1 -b 224 -readtoeof 1 - "D
:\WORKING\WORKFILES\AUD_00012_4352.AC3"

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

Does anybody has a clue about what is the problem ?

Thanks,

Olivier

Oldfart13
14th April 2010, 13:31
I downloaded the test discs and burned them with Imgburn to Verbatim DVD-R single layer. My results for the Curtis DVD 1102 and a Samsung 42" LCD:

OLD_BD - works fine
NEW_BD - works fine
NEWBD CROP 720 - works fine
NEWBD CROP 1080 - works fine
AVCHD - works fine
AVCHD STRICT - works fine
AVCHD AUX - works fine
AVCHD CROP 720 - works fine
AVCHD CROP 1080 - works fine
AVCHD DTSHD - works fine
NEWBD TRUEHD - works fine
NEWBD DTSHD - works fine
AVCHD TRUEHD - no audio

I also tried an AVCHD converted from an MKV full movie and that displayed fine but no subtitles. It's an ongoing problem with players that don't display anything other than SRT subs and programs that can convert other sub formats to SRT and integrate them into the finished back up. I also don't have a double layer AVCHD or Blu Ray back up to test. Hopefully soon.

Hope this helps someone.

Tuxon86
14th April 2010, 14:28
Hi!

I did my first BD25 yesterday. I used 300 as a source and selected the english PCM audio and french AC3 audio (i did check the keep hd audio on bd25 option). I also told it to keep all the subs.

Once the process ended I tried the disk in my PS3 but I only get the english audio track and english subs only.

Is this normal? Does the multiple audio track not implemented yet?

mscsmyrpln
14th April 2010, 15:26
jdobbs-

Greetings! Two questions, when you have a chance:

1. Is there a way for full backups to force one CRF level for the main movie and another for extras? I tried combining hidden options "QUICK_CRF=18" and "FIXED_CRF=20" together, but it seems "FIXED_CRF=20" takes precedence and causes everything to use that setting.

2. An earlier post in this thread seems to confirm that BD-Rebuilder does modify MPLS files, as needed. For some reason my jobs are all resulting in PLAYLIST folders full of MPLS files identical to the original disc, even though I've had BD-Rebuilder strip out several unwanted language and subtitle tracks across each file. MediaInfo confirms the resulting M2TS files are devoid of these unwanted tracks. BDedit also confirms the MPLS files to be straight copies of their originals, still referring to language and subtitle tracks not present in the new M2TS files. I am using 33.04, but have experienced this problem with previous versions as well. My settings:

FREE_PROCESSOR=2
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=2
FIXED_CRF=22
QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1
SHOW_ENCODER=1
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=7910
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=1000
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0

By the way, thank you for this wonderful (beta) program. Since this program is not available for purchase yet, I bought a license of DVD-Rebuilder as a way of saying thanks. I look forward to using it some day, if I ever buy a DVD again.

guest135
14th April 2010, 15:48
First, let me say that BD-RB is an amazing program and that jdobbs has done a truly fantastic job. Thanks for all your hard work, jdobbs!

I have noticed that a few of the finished movie encodes seem to have very slight pauses or freezes throughout the movie. These freezes are perhaps half a second and are barely noticeable. The audio does not even get off sync. I have noticed that these freezes seem to appear in the encodes of movies in which BD-RB detects multiple video streams. I am not very knowledgeable about the subject, but I was wondering if somehow we are not getting seamless transitions between these video streams (please excuse my poor terminology).

I am encoding to a BD-5 ("Movie Only," "Very High Quality") and I have noticed these pauses in the encoded video files on my harddrive, so they are present even before I burn the movie to a disc. I am running Windows 7 64-bit, 6 gig RAM, 400 GB free HDD space, Intel i7.

I apologize if this issue has already been discussed. Thank you again for a truly incredible program!

Ch3vr0n
14th April 2010, 23:06
Hi!

I did my first BD25 yesterday. I used 300 as a source and selected the english PCM audio and french AC3 audio (i did check the keep hd audio on bd25 option). I also told it to keep all the subs.

Once the process ended I tried the disk in my PS3 but I only get the english audio track and english subs only.

Is this normal? Does the multiple audio track not implemented yet?

The multi audio & subs is implemented yes, but there is a setting in BDRB for that. Open up the setup menu and just below both the audio streams section & the subs section there each time is a tickbox that sais something like "limit to 1 stream per language". Untick that box and all should be well again :)

DK
14th April 2010, 23:44
The multi audio & subs is implemented yes, but there is a setting in BDRB for that. Open up the setup menu and just below both the audio streams section & the subs section there each time is a tickbox that sais something like "limit to 1 stream per language". Untick that box and all should be well again :)

That option should not disable a secondary language/subtitle but is meant for including MORE than one stream for a certain language - e.g. another commentary stream.