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[Lathe]

I have a dumb question. Why would you want to rename Star Trek (any series) episode titles?

No, it's not dumb at all... (I'M the one around here asking 'Dumb' questions...) Basically what JD said (above) When you import the TNG discs (or any so far that I've noticed) BDRB shows the titles as: 00001, 00002, 00003, etc. So, when BDRB asks you about the titles that you are importing, I just go to the top of the page for each title highlighted and change it to the name of the episode. I am not currently burning these backups, but they are going to one of my (many) HDDs, so I don't know how they will actually play if I ever need to burn them, but from what I've seen of discs where I have imported a number of BD titles, each title simply shows on the basic menu that BDRB constructs for you. So, I'm ASSUMING that the episode titles that I have renamed will show on the menu.

[Rich86]

Hmmm, that is very interesting. I've never had any trouble at all with TrueHD whatsoever. I don't think I've watched too many titles though with seamless branching, so I don't remember if I had any trouble with that. As far as I can say, and I've played probably hundreds of Blu-ray titles on it (including many series) in the last 5 years, I haven't had any trouble with those things that I can remember. Besides, I would expect OPPO, who are VERY conscientious, to keep their players current with updates.

But, if that indeed IS the case, that is good to know... I frigg'n LOVE mine though! ;)

From what I've read, there isn't much Oppo can do about the problem as it is a hardware issue (processor in those models cannot handle Dolby TrueHD/Atmos in conjunction with complex seamless branching). The 103/105 models utilize a more powerful processor and work fine, but of course those have cinavia infected hardware/firmware.

[MrVideo]

If you are importing or re-authoring you are given default titles that are fairly meaningless (basic source disc/time text). So in the title editor you can replace those with actual text that matches that used officially for the episode -- for example you can get them from Wikipedia's episode indexes or the disc cover. The titles are used in the newly create menus, and are also used when you create an ALTERNATE output to MKV or MP4.

Oh, those titles. I thought it was episode titles. :rolleyes:

[Todd Sauve]

Hi,

I am having a terrible time trying to have BDRB process a concert I have while retaining both the DTS-MA and LPCM stereo audio tracks to a BD 25 disc size. It only retains the DTS-MA track and discards the LPCM track.

I have tried virtually every setting I can think of in the program but it always rejects the LPCM track, though one time it did compress both the DTS-MA and LPCM to DTS-Core and AC3 640. But I can't even remember that setting anymore! :(

Can someone show me the exact settings to use to accomplish this?

I have ripped the "Main Movie" to an MKV file using MakeMKV and it is about 36 GBs in size, and it retained both DTS-MA and LPCM audio tracks. This is the file I am working from and I am using BDRB 50.12.

[jdobbs]

Hi,

I am having a terrible time trying to have BDRB process a concert I have while retaining both the DTS-MA and LPCM stereo audio tracks to a BD 25 disc size. It only retains the DTS-MA track and discards the LPCM track.

I have tried virtually every setting I can think of in the program but it always rejects the LPCM track, though one time it did compress both the DTS-MA and LPCM to DTS-Core and AC3 640. But I can't even remember that setting anymore! :(

Can someone show me the exact settings to use to accomplish this?

I have ripped the "Main Movie" to an MKV file using MakeMKV and it is about 36 GBs in size, and it retained both DTS-MA and LPCM audio tracks. This is the file I am working from and I am using BDRB 50.12. By default BD-RB reencodes LPCM to AC3. Look for KEEP_HD_LPCM in HIDDENOPTS.TXT. But LPCM is an incredible waste of space with no return benefit and I don't recommend it.

[Todd Sauve]

Thanks for your reply.

However, I can't even get BDRB to keep the DTS-MA and also the LPCM converted to AC3 as a BD25 disc! I don't know why ...

I have found the HIDDENOPTS.TXT and chenged it from n to y. Is that how it is done or is there more to it?

I wouldn't have these troubles if DVDFAB would actually shrink my concert to the BD25 option properly, but it keeps making a file that is just a few megs too big to fit on my Optical Quantum BD25 blanks and it makes me very angry! ARGHH!

[jdobbs]

Read the directions at the top of the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. That file is just an informational text file telling you what hidden options are available. The changes have to be made to the [Options] section of BDREBUILDER.INI in the installation folder. You can get to it by selecting "View/Edit Config File" from the BD Rebuilder "File" menu.

BD Rebuilder will keep any audio you have selected. You can set rules for what is kept from the SETUP dialog. You can also override the settings by double-clicking on the audio stream in the streams list (an X means it isn't being kept). You can also force BD-RB to keep (rather than reencode) audio -- look at the FAQ sticky (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157143) for more info.

[MrVideo]

I wouldn't have these troubles if DVDFAB would actually shrink my concert to the BD25 option properly, but it keeps making a file that is just a few megs too big to fit on my Optical Quantum BD25 blanks and it makes me very angry! ARGHH!

It seems that 9.2.3.1, and the previous version, have this problem. I too have run into the issue.

[Sharc]

Not a bug in BD-RB, just for information:
Since recently I experienced a number of mysterious and random "Encode failed. Aborting" cases. I am normally using DGdecNV as frame server and I noticed that the index file .dgi did not get created. Apparently the indexing process did not start for some reason.
Eventually I found that DGindexNV.exe does sometimes not start, but fails silently instead. In Donald's forum I received the hint that a virus scanner could be the root cause, and indeed, disabling the real-time scanner of Windows Defender (W10) seems to have solved the issue.
I thought I would post this, as same or similar might be the cause for mysterious "Encode failed. Aborting" messages of BD-RB.
I stay corrected:
Startup problem was not due to Defender.
Download the latest DGDecNV binaries (slipstream of 2nd March) where the start-up problem got definitely solved.

[Todd Sauve]

It seems that 9.2.3.1, and the previous version, have this problem. I too have run into the issue.

I went scrounging through my older downloads and found DVDFAB 9205 and it works properly, shrinking everything down to a properly working size for a BD25 disc. If you can lay your hands on that version you will be good to go again.

[jdobbs]

I went scrounging through my older downloads and found DVDFAB 9205 and it works properly, shrinking everything down to a properly working size for a BD25 disc. If you can lay your hands on that version you will be good to go again.This is not a DVDFAB thread. Please stay on topic. It's appropriate to talk about DVDFAB as it applies to it's use with BD-RB, but this thread is already big enough without using it as a catch-all.

[jdobbs]

I already asked a while ago:
Still not endorsing AviSynth 2.60? A lot of other software now requires it, and switching between different versions (while possible) is just annoying.


Cheers
manolitoI've been using it for quite a while now, and have had no issues. BD-RB's INSPECT doesn't give any errors when you have it installed (in fact the only requirement is that the version be 2.57 or higher).

I guess what you mean by "endorsing" is changing the first post of this thread to read v2.60 rather than v2.58 -- so I guess I can do that.

[Sharc]

BD-RB still distributes decomb521.dll with the package.
Is there a reason for not updating to decomb524.dll which has been optimized for avisynth 2.6 AFAIK?

[soneca]

I stay corrected:
Startup problem was not due to Defender.
Download the latest DGDecNV binaries (slipstream of 2nd March) where the start-up problem got definitely solved.

Replacing only the DGIndexNV.exe file with the new version is enough?

[Sharc]

Yes. But you have to re-download the latest slipstream.

[soneca]

Thank you!

[manolito]

I guess what you mean by "endorsing" is changing the first post of this thread to read v2.60 rather than v2.58 -- so I guess I can do that.

Exactly...
Thanks :thanks:

[MrVideo]

Yes. But you have to re-download the latest slipstream.

Slipstream? I've been using DGDecNV for a long time. I have no idea what slipstream is.

[Lathe]

Slipstream? I've been using DGDecNV for a long time. I have no idea what slipstream is.

It's Anthony Hopkins' directorial debut... :D

[Sharc]

Slipstream? I've been using DGDecNV for a long time. I have no idea what slipstream is.

http://rationalqm.us/board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=463#p4739

[MrVideo]

http://rationalqm.us/board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=463#p4739

Thanks. Now I know. I'll probably never end up using it.

[mparade]

Thanks for this amazing feature.
I have just started testing it on my BD collection.
I just do not know how to support your efforts from here...:confused:

[mparade]

In case of using the new archiving mode, all the audio tracks will be converted to AAC-LC format with the same quality chosen through the hiddenopt "ARCHIVE_AUDIO" keeping all the channels (without downmixing)?

[sieve]

I wiped HDD with Win 8 and installed Win 10. I reinstalled BD rebuilder and all the regular accompanying programs. I set all the settings like I had them before. I think.... The strange problem I have now is that the program hangs when starting the second pass encode. It sits there with zero of zero frames processed. At the same time, H.264 continues to put an incredible load on the CPU (it maxes it out to 100% load), yet no encoding is apparently done. If left alone for quite a while, I will get Failed video encode, aborted.

Update: I replaced the internal HD, reinstalled everything, and no more problems. There must have been issues with the drive even though a SMART analysis reported good health.

[jdobbs]

Update: I replaced the internal HD, reinstalled everything, and no more problems. There must have been issues with the drive even though a SMART analysis reported good health.Thanks for the update.

[jdobbs]

In case of using the new archiving mode, all the audio tracks will be converted to AAC-LC format with the same quality chosen through the hiddenopt "ARCHIVE_AUDIO" keeping all the channels (without downmixing)? Right now it is reencoded using the core audio. So you will get no more than 6 channels. But you can choose to keep HD audio via the SETUP dialog and it will be honored. Unfortunately, though, that will use a LOT of space in the ARCHIVE since the audio will be kept intact.

I will look at ways to keep 7.1 audio reencoded to AAC and you may see it in a future release.

[mparade]

Right now it is reencoded using the core audio. So you will get no more than 6 channels. But you can choose to keep HD audio via the SETUP dialog and it will be honored. Unfortunately, though, that will use a LOT of space in the ARCHIVE since the audio will be kept intact.

I will look at ways to keep 7.1 audio reencoded to AAC and you may see it in a future release.

Great! For the current audio reencoding, if I have Nero AAC encoder in my system, will BD-RB use that instead of FAAC?

[Ch3vr0n]

Not unless you tell it to in the settings to load the dll

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[mparade]

Not unless you tell it to in the settings to load the dll

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this is the case with the new archiving mode as well?
I mean, if BD-RB is told using Nero AAC encoder in the settings dialogue, will it use it if archive mode is enabled, or not?

[Ch3vr0n]

I'm no expert and don't have a use for archive mode but I would assume it uses the same code to recode the audio. Try it and find out :-)

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[mparade]

I'm no expert and don't have a use for archive mode but I would assume it uses the same code to recode the audio. Try it and find out :-)

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The next step would have been to try it and find out. But it was much simpler to ask you. :)

[jdobbs]

Great! For the current audio reencoding, if I have Nero AAC encoder in my system, will BD-RB use that instead of FAAC?Did some experimenting... unfortunately, while I can reencode to AAC with 7 channels -- there's no way to reencode back to AC3 (when converting back) because there is no freeware solution for doing AC3 in more than 5 channels. So that's pretty much a no-go.

Yes. If you have Nero AAC configured for use with BD-RB it will use it instead of FAAC.

[mparade]

Did some experimenting... unfortunately, while I can reencode to AAC with 7 channels -- there's no way to reencode back to AC3 (when converting back) because there is no freeware solution for doing AC3 in more than 5 channels. So that's pretty much a no-go.

Yes. If you have Nero AAC configured for use with BD-RB it will use it instead of FAAC.

Nice. I hope this would be my last question:
Does ARCHIVE_CRF overwrite both QUICK_CRF and SECONDARY_CRF as well as FIXED_CRF?

[jdobbs]

The others (QUICK_CRF, SECONDARY_CRF, and FIXED_CRF) don't apply to ARCHIVE mode. Only ARCHIVE_CRF is used.

I may make it possible to use the apple AAC encoder when Quicktime is installed. Some reviews I've read say it is better than Nero. Honestly I personally can't hear a difference in any of the three. Almost all the tests are done subjectively, and I think the winner is always the one the reviewer wants to believe is best.

[Pod7381]

I have been using BDRebuilder for years with no issues. I had to reformat my computer yesterday and reinstall all the programs. I must have done something wrong when configuring BDRebuilder or the programs that run with BDRebuilder because for the first time I had a problem with the output not being complete. Only 53 minutes of the 2 hr. movie were in the output file.
I set up BDRebuilder for an output file size of 23,500Mb but I got a file of only 12,353Mb. When I inspect my settings in BDRebuilder everything shows as OK.. I ripped it with AnyDVD to an ISO file, mounted the ISO to a virtual drive, and pointed BDRebuilder to the virtual drive.
The movie is Jurassic World 3D
Does anyone know from experience what setting(s) I need to fix to get a complete backup? Really appreciate any help with this. Thanks.

[Sharc]

@pod7381:
Can you post the log?

[mparade]

The others (QUICK_CRF, SECONDARY_CRF, and FIXED_CRF) don't apply to ARCHIVE mode. Only ARCHIVE_CRF is used.

I may make it possible to use the apple AAC encoder when Quicktime is installed. Some reviews I've read say it is better than Nero. Honestly I personally can't hear a difference in any of the three. Almost all the tests are done subjectively, and I think the winner is always the one the reviewer wants to believe is best.

I completely agree. I am just making my first BD (The Grey) in "ARCHIVE MODE" using x265 and some filters through AVS filter editor (very noisy source) and very curious about the results. According to the current status of the x265 command window BD-RB will reach around 85% bitrate saving on the feature. :eek:

[Pod7381]

@pod7381:
Can you post the log?

Hi Sharc,
I have these logs:

[03/04/16] BD Rebuilder v0.50.12
[16:13:27] Source: JURASSICWORLD3D_NA_00800
- Input BD size: 38.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:29.462]
- Target BD size: 23.14 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[16:13:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:13:27] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 1)
- [16:13:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [16:24:13] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 179,088 frames
- Bitrate: 18,811 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [16:24:13] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:54:19] Video Encode complete
- [19:54:19] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[19:54:19]PHASE ONE complete
[19:54:19]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:54:19] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
[20:03:44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[20:03:44] JOB: JURASSICWORLD3D_NA finished.
[03/05/16] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.12
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 66.66GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[03/05/16] Systems Settings Check complete

INF File:
[Status]
LABEL=JURASSICWORLD3D_NA
VERSION=v0.50.12
SOURCE_SIZE=40810217472
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=40810217472
TARGET_SIZE=24851251200
REDUCTION=.608946796645975
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00800]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=10000
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=24851251200
RATE=18811
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

[Sharc]

What does MediaInfo report about the encoded .m2ts?

What is the size of the .264 in the workfolder?

[Sharc]

BD-RB still distributes decomb521.dll with the package.
Is there a reason for not updating to decomb524.dll which has been optimized for avisynth 2.6 AFAIK?

@jdobbs
Should it be upgraded as well?

[jdobbs]

It's been a while so I don't remember clearly... but I think there is an incompatibility that convinced me not to upgrade to that one.

[sieve]

So, AnyDVD stopped working for me as it can't access the online database before ripping. I tried installing Makemkv and ripped the BD to the HD. BDR started its process, but hung at encoding pass 1. It just sat there and didn't process any frames. I uninstalled makemkv and installed passkey. Ripped the BD to the HD. BDR started, but hung again when starting encoding pass 1. I haven't changed any settings in BDR, which did work a few days ago in encoding BD files ripped from AnyDVD. Is there something I need to change in BDR to get it to work with these other rippers?

Log files attached.
Thanks in advance for assistance.

[Ch3vr0n]

Anydvd can access the OPD just fine. There was a host file fix when using build 7690 available for the past few weeks, and a couple days ago build 7691 was released to access the new RedFox OPD for people who have an existing license that's still valid. I don't know what planet you've been living on the past month but there was plenty of info posted on both myce and torrentfreak about it.

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[DoctorM]

Quick Q. On discs where the movie can only be played in 3D (like most of Disney and Marvel's films), if they are rebuilt, is it possible to access the film in 3D and 2D? Would it have to be Movie Only?

[Ch3vr0n]

Full disc 3d is possible.

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[Sharc]

Quick Q. On discs where the movie can only be played in 3D (like most of Disney and Marvel's films), if they are rebuilt, is it possible to access the film in 3D and 2D? Would it have to be Movie Only?
I can watch any 3D rebuild as 2D or 3D. May depend on TV though.
SBS watching as 2D might require special player settings. Stereoscopic player has this option. It's also possible with MPC-HC via pan-scan setting.

[jdobbs]

Quick Q. On discs where the movie can only be played in 3D (like most of Disney and Marvel's films), if they are rebuilt, is it possible to access the film in 3D and 2D? Would it have to be Movie Only?In a full backup it would work exactly as the original. The original author make the determination whether to allow it to be viewed in 2D. Technically it can on any disc -- but it can be prevented via code.

[varekai]

i don't know what planet you've been living on the past month... (https://image.spreadshirtmedia.net/image-server/v1/designs/14552369,width=178,height=178,version=1384858985/funny-vintage-comic-book-speech-balloon-with-sigh-slogan-humour-for-geek-bachelor-stag-hen-school-t-shirts.png)
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[DoctorM]

In a full backup it would work exactly as the original. The original author make the determination whether to allow it to be viewed in 2D. Technically it can on any disc -- but it can be prevented via code.
So as long as the original menus are stripped, 2D or 3D should be 'unlocked'?

[MrVideo]

So as long as the original menus are stripped, 2D or 3D should be 'unlocked'?

It isn't in the menus. The code is run before you get to the menus.