BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Sharc]

i'm waiting on that SBS ^^ dying to test it out. would be a major breakthrough in shrinking 3D discs. Aint using DVDCrap.
If you are under time pressure you may want to try BD3D2MK3 (http://download.videohelp.com/r0lZ/BD3D2AVS/BD3D2MK3D.7z)D. You can easily author the files to Blu-ray structure using tsMuxer. Works perfectly for movie only.

[AGKnotUser]

It did make a difference. Without the Threshold line no graphic was shown behind the menu, just black. Perhaps in this case the menu graphic is being stored differently from other discs.

Just an update. The menu problem also happens with "Lincoln".

[jdobbs]

Just an update. The menu problem also happens with "Lincoln". Unfortunately that's why it's still only activated through the "ENABLE_TEST" hidden option, and may stay that way. There is no definitive way to determine menus, or to say what is or isn't an extra. So the software has to just make educated guesses.

[AGKnotUser]

Unfortunately that's why it's still only activated through the "ENABLE_TEST" hidden option, and may stay that way. There is no definitive way to determine menus, or to say what is or isn't an extra. So the software has to just make educated guesses.

Thanks jdobbs, no problem, I understand.

[steveg32]

@jdobbs

- When reencoding "BATTLE: Los Angeles" in Quick-Play Mode I get this error message (see attached).

- When reencoding in Full Backup Mode (with or without Edit Mode enabled) there is no main movie audio in either Main Menu "Play Movie" or from Special Features play movie mode which includes Secondary Video and DTS Express Audio. Amazingly the Secondary Audio works (on my standalone Panasonic DMP-BD85) but not the main movie audio (original HD or 5.1). In addition, there is no Descriptive Audio sound in either playback mode.

- When reencoding in Movie Only Mode ALL is good.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4422], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.43.0.6, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Added to my config/INI file:
DTSX_ENABLE=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
DVD_SUB_COLOR=0

[jdobbs]

Weird. That error means "file already exists"... but I looked at that location, and there isn't an attempt to open a file there.

[Edit] I'll have to do some testing with "Battle Los Angeles" and see what's up. Can you post your complete settings and the contents of INF file created for the encode?

[steveg32]

Weird. That error means "file already exists"... but I looked at that location, and there isn't an attempt to open a file there.

[Edit] I'll have to do some testing with "Battle Los Angeles" and see what's up. Can you post your complete settings and the contents of INF file created for the encode?

@jdobbs

In this Quick-Play Mode attempt, I added to my config/INI file:

DTSX_ENABLE=0
ENABLE_TEST=1
DVD_SUB_COLOR=0

Still got same error message. Attached are the settings & INF.

[steveg32]

Weird. That error means "file already exists"... but I looked at that location, and there isn't an attempt to open a file there.

[Edit] I'll have to do some testing with "Battle Los Angeles" and see what's up. Can you post your complete settings and the contents of INF file created for the encode?

@jdobbs

In this Quick-Play Mode attempt, I added to my config/INI file:

DTSX_ENABLE=0
ENABLE_TEST=1
DVD_SUB_COLOR=0

Still got same error message. Attached are the settings & INF.

@jdobbs

Here's the BDREBUILDER.INI

[brunchto]

- Corrected an issue in which it may be possible
that odd angle count deviations within a single
playlist might make some angles unavailable for
movie-only selection.
- Fixed an issue in which selection of alternate
angles from the movie-only playlist dialog was
not correctly replacing primary angle playitems
with the angle playitem in some cases.

Angle selection works fine for me too now (tested on starwars & iceage3). Thanks !

[richardrpg]

i'm waiting on that SBS ^^ dying to test it out. would be a major breakthrough in shrinking 3D discs. Aint using DVDCrap.

LOL... I'm also waiting and I have been using DVDCrap in the interim, cant wait to see the difference between DVDCrap and BDrebuilder.

[sieve]

Based on your description it sounds like your system is experiencing a heat related instability. Pass two is where the processor is really under stress.

Possible, but not likely. The box I'm using I bought from some kid who was a big gamer. It has about 6 fans and big vents on 4 sides. Not to mention fluorescent lights for ambiance.

I'd check all the fans and clean any dust out of the heatsinks. If you're handy with computers, you may also want to re-seat the processor and replace the heatsink compound.

I did open up the box, and it was pretty clean inside. Nonetheless, I did run the vacuum on everything as long as I had it opened up.

[sieve]

@jdobbs

It seems to be working again.

I uninstalled everything. Then ran a registry cleaner (ccleaner). Then downloaded and reinstalled everything.
Have run through 2 BDs so far with no errors (like is used to be).

I guess along the way, one of the programs or associated .dlls must have gotten corrupted.

Anyway, so far, so good.
Thanks for the advice!

[RobertM]

I did run the vacuum on everything as long as I had it opened up.

This can be quite important,... especially the CPU heatsink fins.

[tinner45]

I have a problem, I purchased Take-2, I ripped it with DVDfab, used BD-RB to do it's thing, coppied with Imgburn, great job. Problem is The disc that I purchased wiil not play on my stand alone Blu-ray player. "Says it can not play this disc". This has happened on two disc now.

[omegaman7]

I have a problem, I purchased Take-2, I ripped it with DVDfab, used BD-RB to do it's thing, coppied with Imgburn, great job. Problem is The disc that I purchased wiil not play on my stand alone Blu-ray player. "Says it can not play this disc". This has happened on two disc now.

Do you mean "Taken 2"?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1397280/

My samsung was finicky about certain types of burnable media. Oddly, it would play older burnt movies on LTH TY's, but not any more. My guess is a firmware upgrade removed their playback capability. I'll never know the extent of the issues. The player became very unpredictable.

Since you ripped with DvdFab, that's another variable. It may not be a clean rip. I have heard of such cases.

I guess I have a reason to finally run this one. You say the disc you purchased won't play on the standalone. You do mean the burnt disc, right? I haven't heard of a movie requiring a massive update since Avatar! Though I'm sure it won't be the last...

---------------Update------------------
Looks like I already ran it with BDRB 42.08. Just haven't burnt it yet :S

[sytyguy]

I have a problem, I purchased Take-2, I ripped it with DVDfab, used BD-RB to do it's thing, coppied with Imgburn, great job. Problem is The disc that I purchased wiil not play on my stand alone Blu-ray player. "Says it can not play this disc". This has happened on two disc now.
I had the same problem with a purchased BD movie "Snatch". It would not play on Sony a BD player, but would play on my LG. I think the Sony needs a firmware update, but I'm too lazy to do it, since it works on my LG.

[jdobbs]

I had the same problem with a purchased BD movie "Snatch". It would not play on Sony a BD player, but would play on my LG. I think the Sony needs a firmware update, but I'm too lazy to do it, since it works on my LG.You're saying the original purchased disc wouldn't play, or the backup, or both?

[sytyguy]

You're saying the original purchased disc wouldn't play, or the backup, or both?
The original would not play, the backup played perfectly, movie only.

[omegaman7]

The original would not play, the backup played perfectly, movie only.

The keys probably need updated on the problematic player? Since the backup is encryption free, there would be no problem. The only time a backup, would cause a player to need an update, is if you're using a media that's new, and with little support. LTH discs for instance, were very sketchy with the early generation bd players ;)

[steveg32]

@jdobbs ... this one is crazy:

Reencode of SALT (has DTS Express audio) showed no errors but when playing back on PowerDVD10 or Panasonic DMP-BD85 standalone there is NO English Master Audio.
Next, (from SALT Main Menu) I selected English Stereo but playback is English Audio Descriptive Service.
Next, I selected English Audio Descriptive Service but playback is Filmmakers Commentary (which is actually from movie menu's Special Features :confused:).
Although I reencoded English only audio, I figured I'd follow the pattern so I next selected French Master Audio but playback is English Master Audio (on PowerDVD only. NO audio on standalone).

It's as if the audio tracks are not linking properly to the movie's Main Menu.

Next, when I selected PIP playback from Special Features there is PIP audio but no main movie audio.

There are no audio issues when playing back all other Special Features material.

I reencoded SALT twice. 1st time with Keep HD Audio checked. 2nd time with Keep HD Audio unchecked. Both resulting in same issues. Btw, original disc has no issues and clean rips from AnyDVD HD. I'm assuming doing a Movie Only reencode would result in no issues but I'd like to have Menus and everything else for this backup.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4422], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.43.0.6, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Attached are my files for your review.

Aloha and HAPPY EASTER!

UDPATE: Did a 3rd reencode of SALT. This time with DTS Express Audio disabled (DTSX_ENABLE=0). All main movie audio now associating properly with both the Main Menu and Pop Up Menu. But now I lose the PIP audio :confused:. Stream description is "AUD_001 (2nd) DTS-Express, Stereo, English". Is this something you can fix jdobbs?

[omegaman7]

Mmm, I had that problem with "The Other Guys". Audio was not associating properly. I ended up just keeping all the tracks. I may go back and try to figure the problem with that one.

[sytyguy]

The keys probably need updated on the problematic player? Since the backup is encryption free, there would be no problem. The only time a backup, would cause a player to need an update, is if you're using a media that's new, and with little support. LTH discs for instance, were very sketchy with the early generation bd players ;)
This is a fairly old movie, but not sure when the BD movie was created.

My Sony is newer than the LG, if that is any hint to the problem, it is also a 3D capable, which the LG is not.

I recently purchased another 3D player, and I might try that one on this movie.

[frank]

Alien (1st of anthology, seamless branching)

BDRB (Movie & Menus + Edit Mode, CRF)
After the main movie, a screen with the (german) voice actors is displayed (clip 01110 0.42 MB, mpls 00142) . This little stream has no audio.
BDRB does not convert to AVC properly. The result is a wrong playlist and a stream of 45msec instead of 2x 5sec.
The player is stuck at the end of the movie. Crash.

But the intro stream "FOX Home Entertainment" (clip 01030, mpeg2) is properly converted. It has audio.

[setarip_old]

@mikecrad29

Hi! Source: BOURNE_LEGACY_RENTAL_00801. Discussion of problems regarding commercial media that you don't own is not appreciated at the Doom9 Forum (and many other forums, as well)...

[rainfellow]

I am having difficulty with a particular disc when trying to downsize it from a BD50 to a BD25. It comes out over sized if I try to do a full back up. If I do movie only, it works fine.
The movie in question is Kiki’s Delivery Service (Japanese release).
When I look at the structure, one of the titles has a secondary video stream that is only in 480. Could this be the main vause of my problems?
I have tried setting the the options to reencode the video to 720, but it has the same result. The disc ends up oversized (25gb vs 22gb).
I can run it through again and give whatever files or information is needed.

Thanks to all that help.

[jdobbs]

It is very common for U.S. releases to use secondaries that are 480p for PiP presentation, so I wouldn't think that should be an issue. Not sure right now what could be the issue. I can't remember the last time I had an oversize. You weren't using CRF mode were you? That can sometimes be a little unpredictable even with the best prediction passes.

[rainfellow]

Since I'm not sure what CRF mode is, then that may or may not be an issue. What do I need to post to help you figure out what's going on?

Thanks again for making such an awesome program (DVD Rebuilder as well!!!)

[ricoman]

I don't know if this is a bug or what, but I don't know where else to report it. Please move to correct thread if this is an issue. Anyway, I was having a problem with failed encoding while processing Lincoln from an iso to a BD25 disc movie only. I had uninstalled a couple of old media players that I didn't like, so figuring that might have done something, I uninstalled and reinstalled the latest BDRB, and as instructed, did the same with Haali, Avisynth and ffshow. When I tried again, an error message popped up a couple of times, something like "ffmpeg.dll failed to load". However, after clicking OK a couple of times it continued to process. I burned the result and it seems to work OK (though I haven't watched entire movie yet). Is this likely to be a problem in the future? How do I get BDRB to load ffmpeg.dll? I do see the driver in the ffshow folder, but don't know if it is compromised or what. Any suggestions? Thanks.

[Capsbackup]

There appears to be a problem with BD-RBV04306 and selecting Mode: MP4 Container, 1920x1080, Auto-AAC. This is the second movie I have tested with this message.
Note: the first did resume after I select continue anyway and it completed successfull. This one has resumed and is still running...

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[04/04/13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.06 (beta)
[07:10:20] Source: FIGHT_CLUB_00010
- Input BD size: 31.82 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:19:08.381]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Mode: MP4 Container, 1920x1080, Auto-AAC
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:10:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:10:20] Processing: VID_00349 (1 of 1)
- [07:10:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00349]
- [07:16:54] Reencoding video [VID_00349]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 200,161 frames
- [07:17:02] Reencoding: VID_00349, Pass 1 of 1

[AmigaFuture]

@ Capsbackup

"Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" does the same thing "Audio/PGS sizing issue." in an extra that has a bunch of AC3 files for Music from the movie in it but it'll resume. I've not checked that extra though for completeness. I've not had BD-RB use the MP4 container with it either. Are there a bunch of audio tracks with that movie? Main Soundtrack and a bunch of commentaries, even if only 1 is selected for Alternate output..?

[Capsbackup]

@ Capsbackup

"Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" does the same thing "Audio/PGS sizing issue." in an extra that has a bunch of AC3 files for Music from the movie in it but it'll resume. I've not checked that extra though for completeness. I've not had BD-RB use the MP4 container with it either. Are there a bunch of audio tracks with that movie? Main Soundtrack and a bunch of commentaries, even if only 1 is selected for Alternate output..?

Happened again, and there is only two audio tracks on the Blu-ray, of which I have selected only one. Also, only four subtitle tracks, but BD-RB does not mux subtitles into the mp4 container.

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[04/04/13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.06 (beta)
[19:16:42] Source: THE_FIGHTER_00000
- Input BD size: 29.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:55:38.514]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Mode: MP4 Container, 1920x1080, Auto-AAC
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:16:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:16:42] Processing: VID_00414 (1 of 1)
- [19:16:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00414]
- [19:22:01] Reencoding video [VID_00414]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 166,358 frames
- [20:59:46] Reencoding: VID_00414, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:33:22] Video Encode complete
- [23:33:22] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AAC...
[23:46:16]PHASE ONE complete
[23:46:16]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:46:16] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[23:48:13] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

[jdobbs]

Happened again, and there is only two audio tracks on the Blu-ray, of which I have selected only one. Also, only four subtitle tracks, but BD-RB does not mux subtitles into the mp4 container.

----------------------
[04/04/13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.06 (beta)
[19:16:42] Source: THE_FIGHTER_00000
- Input BD size: 29.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:55:38.514]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Mode: MP4 Container, 1920x1080, Auto-AAC
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:16:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:16:42] Processing: VID_00414 (1 of 1)
- [19:16:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00414]
- [19:22:01] Reencoding video [VID_00414]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 166,358 frames
- [20:59:46] Reencoding: VID_00414, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:33:22] Video Encode complete
- [23:33:22] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AAC...
[23:46:16]PHASE ONE complete
[23:46:16]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:46:16] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[23:48:13] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.Change your target size. That only happens when the combined audio/pgc won't fit on the target. It's an error, of course -- because the target size shouldn't matter when outputting to MP4, I guess I just never noticed it before. I'll fix it for the next release.

[jdobbs]

@Capsbackup & AmigaFuture

Please let me know if that fixes it...

[Capsbackup]

Change your target size.

@Capsbackup & AmigaFuture
Please let me know if that fixes it...


Yes, this does fix it! :D

[jdobbs]

Hi Jdobbs,
First let me say I love the program and have used it without issues. Sorry if this is in the wrong section but I don't know where else to ask, so if I'm wrong I apologize.

I'm compressing a blu-ray copy of Zero Dark Thirty using BD Rebuilder to compress to 25GB Blu-Ray. I choose the 35GB M2TS Stream which is 00001MPLS. I am only presented with 3 PGS streams for subtitles. The first 2 are english and then a spanish one. None of which are the forced subtitle streams. So when I compress and play back on Blu-ray player it's either all the english subtitles or none. It won't just play the forced subtitle. Can anybody point me in the right direction to get this to work?
Thanks
PhilI ran this today... and maybe I'm just missing it -- but I can't find any forced subs in this, even on the original. Can you point out where they are supposed to be in the timeline?

[plouie10]

I ran this today... and maybe I'm just missing it -- but I can't find any forced subs in this, even on the original. Can you point out where they are supposed to be in the timeline?

Hi Jobbs
At 38:35 they are speaking a foreign language. It starts with a man saying "You know how this works?" then I think he says "God willing we won't have to use it". In another forum somebody told me that BDclown can find forced subs that are just marked as "forced" in the main subtitle track. They then sent me this link. http://scottjohnson.org/wiki/Dune/Forced_subtitles_with_ClownBD

I'm not sure how to totally run it as I'm still testing, but when I look at the log it did find 15 forced subtitles in the 2nd english subtitle pgs.

Thanks
Phil

[jdobbs]

Hi Jobbs
At 38:35 they are speaking a foreign language. It starts with a man saying "You know how this works?" then I think he says "God willing we won't have to use it". In another forum somebody told me that BDclown can find forced subs that are just marked as "forced" in the main subtitle track. They then sent me this link. http://scottjohnson.org/wiki/Dune/Forced_subtitles_with_ClownBD

I'm not sure how to totally run it as I'm still testing, but when I look at the log it did find 15 forced subtitles in the 2nd english subtitle pgs.

Thanks
PhilI really don't pay attention how other packages might do. I don't do comparisons, reviews, or competition -- they have no place in this forum. So I ask folks not to post "xxxx does it". That's a good way to get no answer.

As I've sad before, it's very easy to scan the SUP file... but it takes time and I don't want to add any more time to the process. BD-RB keeps the subs intact that you keep, and the flags for forcing are right there in the stream. So the question would be "how did they go away?" if you kept the original PGS stream.

[Edit] I just played back that section. Although they were speaking Arabic -- there were no forced subtitles at that point on my movie-only backup when I play it back using PowerDVD. Unfortunately, though... there also weren't any displayed on the original either.

[Edit] Ok... I just scanned the 3 PGS streams, and the second stream (PID 4609) does indeed have 15 subtitles that are flagged as forced. So the question now is: Why isn't PowerDVD displaying them?

[Edit] It appears to be a bug in PowerDVD. I just selected that sub and then turned it off as a test, from that point on the forced subs started working in both my backup and in the original (even though the stream wasn't selected). That's how it is supposed to work. Next I will burn the backup and test it on my Samsung standalone.

[RobertM]

Next I will burn the backup and test it on my Samsung standalone.

The forced subs for this 'movie-only' backup worked fine on my Standalone Sony, once I manually selected the correct sub stream.

I'm still a bit confused by BD subtitles. But it's not really a bug so I'll start a dedicated thread.

[plouie10]

I really don't pay attention how other packages might do. I don't do comparisons, reviews, or competition -- they have no place in this forum. So I ask folks not to post "xxxx does it". That's a good way to get no answer.

As I've sad before, it's very easy to scan the SUP file... but it takes time and I don't want to add any more time to the process. BD-RB keeps the subs intact that you keep, and the flags for forcing are right there in the stream. So the question would be "how did they go away?" if you kept the original PGS stream.

[Edit] I just played back that section. Although they were speaking Arabic -- there were no forced subtitles at that point on my movie-only backup when I play it back using PowerDVD. Unfortunately, though... there also weren't any displayed on the original either.

[Edit] Ok... I just scanned the 3 PGS streams, and the second stream (PID 4609) does indeed have 15 subtitles that are flagged as forced. So the question now is: Why isn't PowerDVD displaying them?

[Edit] It appears to be a bug in PowerDVD. I just selected that sub and then turned it off as a test, from that point on the forced subs started working in both my backup and in the original (even though the stream wasn't selected). That's how it is supposed to work. Next I will burn the backup and test it on my Samsung standalone.

Hi Jdobbs,
No disrespect intended. I was only pointing towards another product as a way of finding the flagged forced subs. I appreciate your efforts.
Thanks

[jdobbs]

Hi Jdobbs,
No disrespect intended. I was only pointing towards another product as a way of finding the flagged forced subs. I appreciate your efforts.
ThanksNo big deal -- I just need to be clear, there are lots of people out there who have nothing better to do with their time than start arguments about "what's better" or "why does product x work when product y doesn't" -- and I'm just not into any of that nonsense. So I always stop it even at the first hint, no offense intended -- I'm just trying to reiterate the point. From my perspective if someone finds a better way to backup than BD-RB -- they should use it and be done with it and leave me alone (of course I believe there isn't a better way, but I'm probably not a very product-agnostic reviewer for this area).

Anyway, back on topic. I burned my movie-only backup of "Zero Dark Thirty" and the forced subtitles aren't showing on my standalone. I'm sure this was working fine in the past, so I need to dig around and find out what's going on.

[ricoman]

Anyway, back on topic. I burned my movie-only backup of "Zero Dark Thirty" and the forced subtitles aren't showing on my standalone. I'm sure this was working fine in the past, so I need to dig around and find out what's going on.

Yes, I had the same issue and had to turn on all (of the annoying) subtitles to understand some of the extended foreign language scenes. I thought I had done something wrong so I didn't post at the time. Just verifying what you found.

[jdobbs]

Yes, I had the same issue and had to turn on all (of the annoying) subtitles to understand some of the extended foreign language scenes. I thought I had done something wrong so I didn't post at the time. Just verifying what you found.Well, I'm confused. I looked at the SUP stream that is in the backup and the forced_on_flag is very definitely set. So I have no idea why it isn't always displaying.

I looked at the standard, and it is very clear, with no ambiguities whatsoever, that the player should show the forced subs when forced_on_flag is set, even if no subtitle is selected.

I could fairly easily pull the individual forced subtitles into a SUP of their own and turn that one on... but that's NOT how it's supposed to work.

[longtom]

Again for subtitles.
Latest BDs have 2 subtitle tracks.
One is normal, Second is forced one (on original BD).
On this second subtitle track there are only a few subs (e.g. 10 in the whole movie as there are the forced ones).

But when i rip both (Main movie extraction) no subs are forced!
(So i don't see Subtitle 2 forced, only when i select it manually)

On original BD automatically Subtitle 2 are displayed.

[jdobbs]

Again for subtitles.
Latest BDs have 2 subtitle tracks.
One is normal, Second is forced one (on original BD).
On this second subtitle track there are only a few subs (e.g. 10 in the whole movie as there are the forced ones).

But when i rip both (Main movie extraction) no subs are forced!
(So i don't see Subtitle 2 forced, only when i select it manually)

On original BD automatically Subtitle 2 are displayed.While that might be a way to do it, that's not what I'm seeing as typical. More often I just see standard English subtitle streams with certain individual subtitle lines of text (as a graphic) flagged as forced. That's also how it is done in "Zero Dark Thirty" -- which is the disc we're discussing.

[longtom]

Yes, normally one stream with some forced flags, but i had this "new" way of forced subs in some BDs.
Do you see a possibility to force Subtitle stream 2?

[jdobbs]

Yes, normally one stream with some forced flags, but i had this "new" way of forced subs in some BDs.
Do you see a possibility to force Subtitle stream 2?As I said earlier, that second stream has about 15 individual subtitle lines of text (a subset of many lines in that PGS stream) that are properly set to be forced in the backup. That's easy to check, just demux them from the movie-only output and scan them. I'm not sure why they aren't always working... but right now I have to suspect TSMUXER, since it is the only software that is manipulating the streams (demuxing and muxing). If you turn on subtitle stream #2, you would get ALL the subtitles, not just he 15 that are flagged.

[longtom]

Maybe there is some misunderstanding.
e.g. Premium Rush or Threesome -> 2 German subtitle tracks.
First -> Standard no forced flag
Second -> lets assume 15 subtitles (in total) also no forced flag BUT these are displayed during normal playback on original BD (no subtitles set to on). -> So these are also somehow forced

[Sharc]

All of a sudden DB-RB refuses to start. I get:
System Error &H80004023 (-2147467229).
I am on WIN7 64bit.
Inspect.exe reports all ok but
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
Re-installing DB-RB, ffdshow, haali and system restart does not help.
Any suggestions?

[colinhunt]

I'm still getting the "Warning: Framerate [23,976fps] not BD compliant" error on 0.43.06 when trying to Import .M2TS and output into MKV.

[23:16:14] Importing M2TS: 00014
- Preparing M2TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Warning: Framerate [23,976fps] not BD compliant.
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[23:18:23] Video import completed successfully.

BUT BD-RB has no problem outputting that exact same M2TS into an MKV when the M2TS file is loaded using the "Other Movie-Only Playlist" feature. Unfortunately not all M2TS files can be processed via a playlist.

Is it possible this issue could have something to do with how decimal point is handled in different regions, as in comma vs. full stop; 23,976 vs. 23.976?

[jdobbs]

I'm still getting the "Warning: Framerate [23,976fps] not BD compliant" error on 0.43.06 when trying to Import .M2TS and output into MKV.

[23:16:14] Importing M2TS: 00014
- Preparing M2TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Warning: Framerate [23,976fps] not BD compliant.
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[23:18:23] Video import completed successfully.

BUT BD-RB has no problem outputting that exact same M2TS into an MKV when the M2TS file is loaded using the "Other Movie-Only Playlist" feature. Unfortunately not all M2TS files can be processed via a playlist.

Is it possible this issue could have something to do with how decimal point is handled in different regions, as in comma vs. full stop; 23,976 vs. 23.976?Yes, it's possible. But I'm not sure. I'll have to look at it.