BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Race Guy]

I don't think I get the point. In this example the feature wouldn't suffer from all the languages... in fact if you didn't keep them all, it would get an improved bitrate because it also gets the bits from the removed languages. Either way, if it took up 60% of the available space on the original, it would also take up 60% of the available space on the target.

I get it now! I was looking at the "equation" back-asswards! Dumping sound leaves a "void" that gets filled by more video.

[setarip_old]

@datman problem with The Expendables
I did a movie only to BD-25 and all the extras are mixed in with the movie.You likely accepted the BD-RB selection of the largest file - which, in this somewhat rare instance, is actually the "PIP Extras" video...

[omegaman7]

I did a movie only to BD-25 and all the extras are mixed in with the movie. I'm going to try a full backup and see.

Please don't misunderstand me, because I mean no ill-will. But why would you do that? X264 is a freak of a good encoder. I can understand backing up a main title to BD-9 or BD-5, but BD-25 can handle A LOT of video space. I'm talking hours and hours. If it were possible to burn AVCHD compliancy to BD-25, you could put 9-10hrs on it, and barely notice a difference. Unless you use a projector ;)

I guess if you're after a quicker encode, then I understand. Myself, I prefer an exact backup.

[Denada]

Needed to upgrade to 36.01 because the version I had in use was no longer useable.. tried to make a BD25 disc of Inception EUR bluray, set the encoder to highest (very slow). Noticing the audio does not match the video, seems to be a slight delay.. made a BD25 disc of Superbad after this, no problem. Upgraded to 36.04 and tried Inception again, same problem.. Did a bd25 of the other guys with 36.04, again no problem..

Kinda strange, anyone else having problems with Inception?

[jdobbs]

Needed to upgrade to 36.01 because the version I had in use was no longer useable.. tried to make a BD25 disc of Inception EUR bluray, set the encoder to highest (very slow). Noticing the audio does not match the video, seems to be a slight delay.. made a BD25 disc of Superbad after this, no problem. Upgraded to 36.04 and tried Inception again, same problem.. Did a bd25 of the other guys with 36.04, again no problem..

Kinda strange, anyone else having problems with Inception?

Inception hasn't been released in the U.S. I believe it is scheduled for release on the 7th of Dec.

[omegaman7]

Inception won't be out in the states til next week :( I've had audio sync issues due to bad optical drives(Bad rip). In my experience, it has only happened with Lite-on drives. I'm not happy about it either...:mad:

[Capsbackup]

Inception won't be out in the states til next week :( I've had audio sync issues due to bad optical drives(Bad rip). In my experience, it has only happened with Lite-on drives. I'm not happy about it either...:mad:

I have been using a Lite-On drive for ripping my Blu-rays for almost two years, and have never had a bad rip! :cool:

[omegaman7]

Clearly, I simply have bad luck then LOL!

[Ch3vr0n]

Well inception is released in the EU :) BDRB processed my copy flawlessly :) AnyDVD + BDRB = killer combo :)

[Capsbackup]

Some HAALI versions fail to remove content from the "c:\program files\HAALI\MatroskaSplitter" folder, and it shows to BD-RB as the wrong version. You need to uninstall HAALI, then manually delete that folder and install the one from the first post of the Bug Reporting thread.

I think this should be added to the BD-RB FAQ, since it does seem to come up alot! :(

[jdobbs]

I think this should be added to the BD-RB FAQ, since it does seem to come up alot! :(Good idea.

[rilopes]

I made a full backup of Toy Story 3 from original region A BD to BD-25 using BD-Rebuilder default settings.

Everything seems fine, but the movie freezes every time that there's a specific language scene and plays back again seconds after.

Did anybody went through this ? Is it a BD-Rebuilder bug ?

Sorry if I insist with this question, but it's making me mad...

[cnote]

Overall progress reaches 100% but I run into a snag shortly after. Can anybody help me? Thank you in advance. This recently started. I am a newb, but have successfully backed up over 100 without a real issue. Thank you much! Oh and the only change that has been made to my machine has been attaching a new external hd. I highly doubt that has anything to do with this but you never know.
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[00:16:51] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[00:16:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:16:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [00:25:06] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [00:25:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 74,921 frames
- Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
- [00:25:07] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:27:44] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:37:57] Video Encode complete
- [04:38:00] PredictAndEncode() 00075 2809
[07:27:25] - Aborted by user request
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[07:28:07] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[07:28:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:28:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:31:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Can't open file: C:\USERS\BOSS\DESKTOP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264
[07:31:30] - Failed to build structure, aborted
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[07:41:12] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[07:41:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:41:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Can't open file: C:\USERS\BOSS\DESKTOP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264
[07:41:15] - Failed to build structure, aborted
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[07:41:24] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[07:41:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:41:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Can't open file: C:\USERS\BOSS\DESKTOP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264
[07:41:25] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[07:41:42] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[07:41:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:41:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Can't open file: C:\USERS\BOSS\DESKTOP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264
[07:41:43] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[jdobbs]

I made a full backup of Toy Story 3 from original region A BD to BD-25 using BD-Rebuilder default settings.

Everything seems fine, but the movie freezes every time that there's a specific language scene and plays back again seconds after.

Did anybody went through this ? Is it a BD-Rebuilder bug ?

Sorry if I insist with this question, but it's making me mad... What are you using to play it? If it is a software player -- that is likely the issue.

I've done the U.S. version of "Toy Story 3" in both full and movie-only backups and it works correctly.

[jdobbs]

Overall progress reaches 100% but I run into a snag shortly after. Can anybody help me? Thank you in advance. This recently started. I am a newb, but have successfully backed up over 100 without a real issue. Thank you much! Oh and the only change that has been made to my machine has been attaching a new external hd. I highly doubt that has anything to do with this but you never know.

...

The error you're getting now is because the encode was never actually completed. The encode died with a "00075 2809" error. That is a "Path not found" error. Either the path is bad or the drive was somehow unmounted. It sounds like your external drive's driver is flaky -- it certainly matches the error... I'd recommend you start over.

[royboy1]

I had the same problem with the expendables. The commentaries are all mixed in with the movie files and I couldn't find a way to eliminate the commentary files. These stream files with the commentaries are numbered from 00420 to 00431 but if they are deleted from the recording then part of the movie is deleted also. I could not find any one file that contained the movie only---somebody said that files 0004 and 0006 contain the 2 versions of the movie only, but if that is the case, neither of those 2 files will open and they do not contain much data either. anybody have any ideas?

[rilopes]

What are you using to play it? If it is a software player -- that is likely the issue.

I've done the U.S. version of "Toy Story 3" in both full and movie-only backups and it works correctly.

I'm trying to play it with software players ( PowerDVD, VLC, MediaPlayer-HC ) and with my BD player Samsung BD-P3600.

Did U.S. version have foreign language scenes ??

[cnote]

Thanks a lot. I will be sending you another donation over the holiday season. This program is incredible.

[jdobbs]

I had the same problem with the expendables. The commentaries are all mixed in with the movie files and I couldn't find a way to eliminate the commentary files. These stream files with the commentaries are numbered from 00420 to 00431 but if they are deleted from the recording then part of the movie is deleted also. I could not find any one file that contained the movie only---somebody said that files 0004 and 0006 contain the 2 versions of the movie only, but if that is the case, neither of those 2 files will open and they do not contain much data either. anybody have any ideas? You're confusing M2TS files with playlists. I've done that disc... you have to select a different playlist from the "Other movie-only playlist" menu in BD-RB. The longest one that gets picked by default isn't right. Pick the one that is the correct length for the movie (I think it's 103 minutes).

[pididdi]

hi there,
i´m using the latest version of bd-rebuilder to encode a multipart bd-movie (movie-only). everything worked fine (win7 x64, LAVF Decoding active, "degrainmedian" as avs-filter), but while i was watching the rebuildet AVCHD-Disc on my bd-player "philips bdp7500s2" the picture seemed to be instabil when one m2ts-part goes over to the next m2ts-part of the joined movie-stream. older bd-rb releases didn´t had this problem, i gues. i have tryed two differend movietitels with multipart-m2ts video... no change!
could it be that the LAVF decoding feature causes this problem?

sorry for my english, but i´m a little bit out of practice.

that´s all, thanks for comments!:thanks:

PS: the source video-codec was once avc/h264 and second vc-1

[datman]

Please don't misunderstand me, because I mean no ill-will. But why would you do that? X264 is a freak of a good encoder. I can understand backing up a main title to BD-9 or BD-5, but BD-25 can handle A LOT of video space. I'm talking hours and hours. If it were possible to burn AVCHD compliancy to BD-25, you could put 9-10hrs on it, and barely notice a difference. Unless you use a projector ;)

I guess if you're after a quicker encode, then I understand. Myself, I prefer an exact backup.

HD audio, no offense taken :)

[jdobbs]

hi there,
i´m using the latest version of bd-rebuilder to encode a multipart bd-movie (movie-only). everything worked fine (win7 x64, LAVF Decoding active, "degrainmedian" as avs-filter), but while i was watching the rebuildet AVCHD-Disc on my bd-player "philips bdp7500s2" the picture seemed to be instabil when one m2ts-part goes over to the next m2ts-part of the joined movie-stream. older bd-rb releases didn´t had this problem, i gues. i have tryed two differend movietitels with multipart-m2ts video... no change!
could it be that the LAVF decoding feature causes this problem?

sorry for my english, but i´m a little bit out of practice.

that´s all, thanks for comments!:thanks:

PS: the source video-codec was once avc/h264 and second vc-1 The problem is that you are using a filter. You shouldn't use filters on multi-part sources... the reason is that filters force the use of AVS (the LAVF switch is ignored). There is a problem in AVS files in which a frame or two is "lost" from the end -- causing DirectShowSource() to repeat in order to hit the correct framecount. I believe the issue is in HAALI, but I'm not positive. It's no big deal on most sources because repeating a frame from the end of a title isn't a big deal... but when you have a multipart source, it needs to be addressed.

To counter this problem, BD-RB always uses LAVF for multi-part sources (no matter how you have it set) -- unless, of course, you have forced it to use AVS by choosing a filter or resizing.

Bottom line: get rid of the filter and the problem will go away.

[KeVe1983]

Sry, but the Source isn't corrupted!
I have ripped the movie 2 times again with Fab and Any.
All play fine on my PC and my Dune HD.

So here are some pictures:

00004.m2ts is a part of the Main Movie and you can see that this1 is just 1pass encoded.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/4vpg9o9p.jpg (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2355/4vpg9o9p_jpg.htm)

And here you can see the comparsion between the original, 1pass encode (quicker enc. f. extras enabled) and the 2pass encode (quicker enc. f. extras disabled)
Left is the original, middle1 is the 1pass encode and the right1 is the 2pass encode with Quicker encode for Extras Option disabled

http://s3.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/nlpyo7ee.png (http://s3.directupload.net/file/d/2355/nlpyo7ee_png.htm)http://s13.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/dlehgfmu.png (http://s13.directupload.net/file/d/2355/dlehgfmu_png.htm)http://s7.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/d2ai69sd.png (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2355/d2ai69sd_png.htm)

Hi jdobbs,

same Problem again with Cop Out Bluray.
Main Movie has some m2ts Files, and some m2ts files from the main movie are 1pass encoded, because of "quicker encode for extras" is enabled. The part of the movie is very pixelated and unwatchable.

I think i should encode every Bluray with main movie in more than 1 m2ts file with "quicker encode for extras" disabled.

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,

same Problem again with Cop Out Bluray.
Main Movie has some m2ts Files, and some m2ts files from the main movie are 1pass encoded, because of "quicker encode for extras" is enabled. The part of the movie is very pixelated and unwatchable.

I think i should encode every Bluray with main movie in more than 1 m2ts file with "quicker encode for extras" disabled. I will get "Cop Out" and give it a test to see if somehow it could use different encoding on different parts... but, frankly, I'm a little sceptical. If this were the case, you'd be missing parts when attempting to do a movie-only encode (it uses the same multipart list) -- and I'd have received a thousand bug reports on that by now.

Please send me the INI file that was used when you encountered a problem in "Cop Out". Also send me the INF file that resulted from the encode.

Also note that "Quick Encode" isn't the only time one-pass is used. It can be (correctly) selected as a result of "Automatic" settings, and applied to all parts of a multipart source. So the picture you provided doesn't mean anything to me. One-pass could very possibly be the correct method for that source.

But, as we all know, it's always possible there is something I'm missing... and if there is, I'll fix it.

[KeVe1983]

Hey jdobbs it's me again ^^

Edit: Get it to work if i select "Use X264's internal LAVF for encoding"

But maybe usefull for you?!

New problem!

Bluray:

VACANCY/Motel

Settings:

[Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.4
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=F:\
WORKING_PATH=E:\BLURAY\MOTEL BD 25\


VACANCY.INF:

[Status]
LABEL=VACANCY
VERSION=v0.36.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30316958574
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30253953024
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.812407239163167
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00081]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=96040106


BD-REBUILDER.LOG:

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[20:11:30] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: VACANCY
- Input BD size: 28,23 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:01:25.236]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:11:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:11:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [20:11:34] Reencoding: VID_00081 (1 of 11)
- [20:11:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.440 frames
- [20:11:34] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[20:11:39] - Failed video encode, aborted

[jdobbs]

Can you post the file: "VID_00081.AVS"? If it runs with LAVF, it would make sense that it was something in the AVS file.

Also... do you have MPEG-2 decoding enabled in your FFDSHOW settings? That's the most likely problem.

1. Download and install FFDSHOW and the Haali Matroska Splitter. They are required for BD-RB to work and are free. After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Do the same using "Audio Decoder Configuration" to ensure "Uncompressed" is set to "All Supported".

[KeVe1983]

MPEG2 = libavcodec

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.36.04 (beta)
DirectshowSource("F:\BDMV\STREAM\00081.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=1440, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

[jdobbs]

MPEG2 = libavcodec

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.36.04 (beta)
DirectshowSource("F:\BDMV\STREAM\00081.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=1440, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001) Most likely then, some other software package that has been installed is intercepting and screwing up. Remove any players/codec packs etc...

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,

same Problem again with Cop Out Bluray.
Main Movie has some m2ts Files, and some m2ts files from the main movie are 1pass encoded, because of "quicker encode for extras" is enabled. The part of the movie is very pixelated and unwatchable.

I think i should encode every Bluray with main movie in more than 1 m2ts file with "quicker encode for extras" disabled.
I will get "Cop Out" and give it a test to see if somehow it could use different encoding on different parts... but, frankly, I'm a little sceptical. If this were the case, you'd be missing parts when attempting to do a movie-only encode (it uses the same multipart list) -- and I'd have received a thousand bug reports on that by now.

Please send me the INI file that was used when you encountered a problem in "Cop Out". Also send me the INF file that resulted from the encode.

Also note that "Quick Encode" isn't the only time one-pass is used. It can be (correctly) selected as a result of "Automatic" settings, and applied to all parts of a multipart source. So the picture you provided doesn't mean anything to me. One-pass could very possibly be the correct method for that source.

But, as we all know, it's always possible there is something I'm missing... and if there is, I'll fix it. I just completed a full backup of "Cop Out" with Quick Encode selected -- and everything was encoded properly. I'll try switching settings around since you haven't provided the INI or INF... are there any special settings in use I should know about?

[KeVe1983]

Hi,

i've deleted the Disk and the Encode after encoding, so i cant show you the inf, or ini. Sry!

My Setting:

Full Backup
Quicker Encode for Extras
BD 25
High Quality (default) - 2pass
No reencode for Audio
LAV was disabled

The Encode runs fine, but the result was not good.
A part of the end of the movie was 1pass encoded.
It was very pixelated.

I get the Disc again today and tell you which m2zs file it was.

I had the same problems with Harry Potter 1 and 2.
The Extended ones.
So the extended parts of the movie where pixelated.

[jdobbs]

Hi,

i've deleted the Disk and the Encode after encoding, so i cant show you the inf, or ini. Sry!

My Setting:

Full Backup
Quicker Encode for Extras
BD 25
High Quality (default) - 2pass
No reencode for Audio
LAV was disabled

The Encode runs fine, but the result was not good.
A part of the end of the movie was 1pass encoded.
It was very pixelated.

I get the Disc again today and tell you which m2zs file it was.

I had the same problems with Harry Potter 1 and 2.
The Extended ones.
So the extended parts of the movie where pixelated. I tried it with every setting I could think of... and reviewed all the logs. Never did it use the "Quick Encode" for a part of the main feature.

I also went through the code, and could only find one place where something like that could happen. That would be if somehow the total amount of the audio/pgs information added to more than the output size allocated to the entire M2TS. In that instance, if the length of the video was less than 5 minutes, it will encode with a fixed CRF rather than abort with a "Destination too small" error. For that to happen should be almost impossible -- and I tried everything I could to make it happen -- and couldn't.

[Sharc]

In DVD-5 PAL alternate mode it appears that HCenc produces intermittently blended fields in the VIDxxxxx.avs.m2ts files (i.e. ghost pictures for the bottom and top field when separating fields).
The Blu-ray source is clean, progressive.
Not sure if I got this right, but I wouldn't have expected blended fields... :eek:

Added:
I also also sometimes get the HC ERROR "..source mismatch found in pass 2 starting at frame: 0,count 1 frames". Could this be related to the ghosting of some fields?

It's a multi-segment BD source.

Added 2:
Ooops! I just noticed that I have a non-recommended (more recent) version of ffdshow installed. Could the field blending be related to this?

[proper88]

hi jdobbs,
your software is great but i am missing only one feature/option to detect Forced UT in specific language.
For example:
German, only forced UT
If the filme has no forced UT there are no further subtitles in the final image.
If the films has "Forced UT", only one "Forced UT" is in the final image.

Now i have read to the subtitles manually withBDSup2Sub to get the Forced UT.

Is this possbile ?

/proper88

[JJB]

In DVD-5 PAL alternate mode it appears that HCenc produces intermittently blended fields in the VIDxxxxx.avs.m2ts files (i.e. ghost pictures for the bottom and top field when separating fields).
The Blu-ray source is clean, progressive.
Not sure if I got this right, but I wouldn't have expected blended fields... :eek:

Added:
I also also sometimes get the HC ERROR "..source mismatch found in pass 2 starting at frame: 0,count 1 frames". Could this be related to the ghosting of some fields?

It's a multi-segment BD source.

I don't think it is PAL related as I get it with NTSC builds on 3 different PC's.

[jdobbs]

In DVD-5 PAL alternate mode it appears that HCenc produces intermittently blended fields in the VIDxxxxx.avs.m2ts files (i.e. ghost pictures for the bottom and top field when separating fields).
The Blu-ray source is clean, progressive.
Not sure if I got this right, but I wouldn't have expected blended fields... :eek:

Added:
I also also sometimes get the HC ERROR "..source mismatch found in pass 2 starting at frame: 0,count 1 frames". Could this be related to the ghosting of some fields?

It's a multi-segment BD source.

Added 2:
Ooops! I just noticed that I have a non-recommended (more recent) version of ffdshow installed. Could the field blending be related to this? Hmmm... I can't imagine blended fields unless you have "Deinterlace with DECOMB" selected -- and that would only be applied to an interlaced source.

That HC error frame count error has been reported -- but right now I have no idea what is causing it.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Hi!

I'm posting this request for an update only because you mentioned a timeframe in which you were going to check this out:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1458896&postcount=10244

It seems to be one of several variants on the same basic problem, namely, disappearing audio and subs for the main movie, when BDRB has made a full disc copy in Blu-ray format to a DVD9 ("BD9") and it is played on a SONY 360 (Plays properly under PowerDVD7.3). Similar but more extreme behavior recently noted with "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World".

When you get a chance, any additional insight will be appreciated ;>}

[drmih]

Isn't this a purely firmware issue as the discs are fine on other standalones and when I took the bd-9 contents and put them on a bd-25 the Sony plays them fine? I have also noticed that the Sonys get confused on branching titles (multi segment titles - typically ones with extended versions) where the sound suddenly vanishes and then returns at the next scene, whereas the discs are fine on other players.

[Capsbackup]

My experience has been any Blu-ray title with PiP, if a full backup is burned to BD5/9 media will have no audio heard nor selectable subtitles for the main feature. If this same backup is burned to BD-R/RE media, the main titles audio and subtitles work just as they are suppose to. I experience this with both my Sony BX1 and S360.
So whatever's the case, as long as BD-R/RE media is used, my PiP backups work perfectly. ( of course not DTS Express secondary audio ) :(

[setarip_old]

@drmih

Hi! Isn't this a purely firmware issueIf you're referring to my post #10387, I'll simply suggest to you that if things were that clear cut and certain, I'm quite sure that "jdobbs" would have stated that, rather than saying, as he did, "...I'll check it tomorrow..."

I would hope that if the stated purpose of BD-RB continues to include making viable full disc backups on DVD-9s, "jdobbs" will be able to resolve this issue - since not everybody doing the beta testing owns a Blu-ray burner and uses Blu-ray media...

[Capsbackup]

@setarip_old;
unfortunately there appears to be a limitation for certain types of full backups to DVD media, and I believe this is what you are up against. The Sony players are perhaps the most compatible players, but we have found where they have trouble.
It would be nice if jdobbs could find a cure for this, but I think even he has his doubts. Time will tell. I still do the majority of my backups to BD5/9, so I do understand. ;)
Besides, if the same backup works properly when burned on BD-R/RE media, it's hard to argue BD-RB even has a problem!
There is a work around for this if you are so determined, but it does not retain the PiP. The main features audio and subtitles will work properly, so you can still make full movie backups to DVD media where the original Blu-ray has PiP. :)

[Sharc]

Hmmm... I can't imagine blended fields unless you have "Deinterlace with DECOMB" selected -- and that would only be applied to an interlaced source.

That HC error frame count error has been reported -- but right now I have no idea what is causing it.

Field blending (fields with ghost picture):
I notice that you set *INTERLACED in HC.ini. Could it be the reason for the blended fields? The source is progressive.

From the HC manual:
*INTERLACED
parameter
Status not required
Default -
Example *INTERLACED
Use this command if your source is interlaced.If this command is used also the alternate scan method is set.

Frame count error:
I had this in previous versions as well, and Hank gave some explanation about it. IIRC it is not critical. I remember there are also some posts in the HCenc (0.24?) thread.

[jdobbs]

Field blending (fields with ghost picture):
I notice that you set *INTERLACED in HC.ini. Could it be the reason for the blended fields? The source is progressive.

From the HC manual:
*INTERLACED
parameter
Status not required
Default -
Example *INTERLACED
Use this command if your source is interlaced.If this command is used also the alternate scan method is set.

Frame count error:
I had this in previous versions as well, and Hank gave some explanation about it. IIRC it is not critical. I remember there are also some posts in the HCenc (0.24?) thread. In DVD all sources are "interlaced" by standard. Even if they are progressive they are considered interlaced -- there just happens to be no time difference between the two fields (which is what truly defines progressive). I could see how reencoding a true interlaced source as progressive might cause ghosting, but going the other way shouldn't. I'll take a look at it though.

[Sharc]

In DVD all sources are "interlaced" by standard. Even if they are progressive they are considered interlaced -- there just happens to be no time difference between the two fields (which is what truly defines progressive). I could see how reencoding a true interlaced source as progressive might cause ghosting, but going the other way shouldn't. I'll take a look at it though.
Here my latest findings:
The source is VC-1. The ghosted pictures are already present when watching the .avs script in a player. So the ghosting has definitely nothing to do with HCenc. I tried your recommended as well as the most recent version of ffdshow set to wmv-9, it's all the same.
When I do the decoding with neuron2's DGdecNV everything is clean - no ghosts.
Is it possibly a problem of the ffdshow/wmv-9 decoder?

[jdobbs]

Here my latest findings:
The source is VC-1. The ghosted pictures are already present when watching the .avs script in a player. So the ghosting has definitely nothing to do with HCenc. I tried your recommended as well as the most recent version of ffdshow set to wmv-9, it's all the same.
When I do the decoding with neuron2's DGdecNV everything is clean - no ghosts.
Is it possibly a problem of the ffdshow/wmv-9 decoder? That's all it could be... but I've never seen anything like that.

[Adbear]

I'm also having issues with interlaced VC-1. I've just encoded the 6 disc boxset of Dr Who season 5 down to BD-R 25 and they all have ghosting/jerky images on fast movement and especially on the closing credits. I tried with and without decomb just to make sure. Original ripped discs play fine

[The_Unknown]

Hello jdobbs,

at first: the BD-RB works great for me. But one bug there is inside. When I check some languages in the setup-dialog the program doesn't seem to notice that. I checked English and German and the program only selects the English track, not the German one. This happens with every disc I inserted.

Also I would like to ask for one feature: Could you please make it possible not only to check the languages to keep but also keep English when no other language is available (for example in the extras there's in most cases only English). That's because checking only a language which isn't English can result in not having any audio track in the extras.

So now I have to check every single video track for the right languages which can be quiet annoying ;)

[Kampfwurstwasser]

Did you select German (Ger) and German (Deu) in the setup?

[The_Unknown]

I attached the settings. I couldn't find German (deu).

[Adbear]

German (deu) is under in the 'D' section not under 'G'

[The_Unknown]

Ah, I see. Now it checks the German language. But when I select only German to keep I still have no English track in the extras although it's the only language there :( Would it be possible to change that?

And would it also be possible to make the main window resizeable?