BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[MrVideo]

I suspect this will make a big difference as well... the original UHD has Dolby Vision.

[jdobbs]

BD-RB doesn't currently have the direct capability to output a UHD BD disc as a standard BD. You can output the source video(s) to an MKV, etc. with alternate output (resizing to 1080p), and then import it and create a new disc/menus etc. -- but that's about it. It does have the ability, however, to go the other way (BD -> UHD-BD).

[Lathe]

I suspect this will make a big difference as well... the original UHD has Dolby Vision.

In using the program I recommended, you can choose to keep the HDR if you wish. Since our dear host's program doesn't happen to do that, I strongly suggest you check out that program. I have done many conversions with excellent results.

[MrVideo]

Is it a known issue that VLC will not play BDRB authored discs? The only thing that shows up is the background.

[jdobbs]

Is it a known issue that VLC will not play BDRB authored discs? The only thing that shows up is the background.I'm not aware of it. But, since the BD-RB discs are compliant with the standard, I would have to believe the issue is in the player. You might try creating a simple movie-only disc using just TSMUXER to see if it plays with no menu.

I can't think of anything that might make it not show the completed BD-RB menu. They're really not very complicated.

[RetsimLegin]

A long time ago (in my early use of BDRB) I tried using the onboard menuing and found that VLC does not "like" them. No idea why and I haven't looked again recently; as I do want to be able to test my compilations prior to committing to disc, I use a different authoring/menuing tool to generate disc .iso files.

[jdobbs]

I'm pretty confident the problem is with VLC -- not BD-RB. No other players I know of have any issues...

[MrVideo]

I had VLC load a commercial release and it had no issue loading the menu. I'll have to see if I can get their attention such that I can send then a simple/small sample.

[MrVideo]

As a side note, I thought I had a BDRB issue when my Sony UHD player basically refused to load the menu of a new UHD disc that I authored. The fact that it eventually did load the menu led me to believe otherwise. I rewrote the disc at a speed of 4X, instead of 10X and the disc played flawlessly. Even though the media can be burned at 10X, the player didn't like it. :devil:

[kufo]

As a side note, I thought I had a BDRB issue when my Sony UHD player basically refused to load the menu of a new UHD disc that I authored. The fact that it eventually did load the menu led me to believe otherwise. I rewrote the disc at a speed of 4X, instead of 10X and the disc played flawlessly. Even though the media can be burned at 10X, the player didn't like it. :devil:


Have you ever burned a formatted disc with imgburn? This allows you to create a larger area for faulty parts. Layer breaks often cause errors in 4K media. With this method, I no longer have any errors. The only drawback: If you set it to burn 4x, the program only burns 1.7x.

[Lathe]

Have you ever burned a formatted disc with imgburn? This allows you to create a larger area for faulty parts. Layer breaks often cause errors in 4K media. With this method, I no longer have any errors. The only drawback: If you set it to burn 4x, the program only burns 1.7x.

I've been using BurnAware for quite some time, I kept having trouble with the never updated ImgBurn...

[MrVideo]

Have you ever burned a formatted disc with imgburn? This allows you to create a larger area for faulty parts. Layer breaks often cause errors in 4K media. With this method, I no longer have any errors. The only drawback: If you set it to burn 4x, the program only burns 1.7x.
ImgBurn is all that I use. I don't normally burn BD50 discs. I do 1-to-1 copies of 3D releases. Everything else is BD25.

As mentioned, in this case, burned media at 10x is not liked by my UHD player.

Due to the speed of the USB interface, the external BD burner will only go as fast as 4x. I set the internal BD burner for a max of 6x. The burner will achieve that speed the closer it gets to the outside of the media.

I don't know where you get the 1.7x from, but the software reports that it burns at the requested speed.

[Lathe]

ImgBurn is all that I use. I don't normally burn BD50 discs. I do 1-to-1 copies of 3D releases. Everything else is BD25.

As mentioned, in this case, burned media at 10x is not liked by my UHD player.

Due to the speed of the USB interface, the external BD burner will only go as fast as 4x. I set the internal BD burner for a max of 6x. The burner will achieve that speed the closer it gets to the outside of the media.

I don't know where you get the 1.7x from, but the software reports that it burns at the requested speed.

IMGBurn was truly great Bro... at the time. But, it hasn't been updated in over a decade. Trust me... Dump it and try Burnaware, it is free, I've done hundreds of Blu-rays and data discs without a single hitch, AND at full speed. However, TBH, since I do not use 4k I really don't know if it supports it now that I think of it.

[MrVideo]

I've been using BurnAware for quite some time, I kept having trouble with the never updated ImgBurn...
Never heard of that program until now. I've downloaded and installed. We'll see how it goes.

[MrVideo]

Is the following a legal directive:
MENU_FONT_BOOK=1
There is a font I want to use has "book." Book is not part of the family name when using it in PhotoShop/Illustrator.

[MrVideo]

Dump it and try Burnaware
I'm doing a test burn of a BDRB authored disc. Not 4K though. I have noticed that it does not indicate the current burn speed. Only at the end.

[jdobbs]

IMGBURN will burn at whatever the media and drive supports. Nothing more, nothing less.

[kufo]

ImgBurn is all that I use. I don't normally burn BD50 discs. I do 1-to-1 copies of 3D releases. Everything else is BD25.

As mentioned, in this case, burned media at 10x is not liked by my UHD player.

Due to the speed of the USB interface, the external BD burner will only go as fast as 4x. I set the internal BD burner for a max of 6x. The burner will achieve that speed the closer it gets to the outside of the media.

I don't know where you get the 1.7x from, but the software reports that it burns at the requested speed.

Then, of course, that's not so interesting for you. If you were making copies on BD 50, it would be a little different.

[kufo]

I've been using BurnAware for quite some time, I kept having trouble with the never updated ImgBurn...


Of course, if you're not creating 4K media on BD 50, that's a different story. The formatting issue is actually intended for layer break and the error rate in that area.
So, that's not relevant to you either.
Even if Imgburn hasn't received an update in a few years, that's not a problem. There are no new media.

[kufo]

IMGBURN will burn at whatever the media and drive supports. Nothing more, nothing less.

You don't need anything more.

[MrVideo]

However, TBH, since I do not use 4k I really don't know if it supports it now that I think of it.
Not an issue. The burning software knows nothing about the contents of the BDMV directory. It just copies the files that are there.

[MrVideo]

Is the following a legal directive:
MENU_FONT_BOOK=1
There is a font I want to use has "book." Book is not part of the family name when using it in PhotoShop/Illustrator.
Not a legal directive. It seems that BDRB is only programmed to handle the main font family name and sub-names of regular (default), bold and italic. No idea if oblique (italic) is understood.

[JugHead]

is it possible to change the default player in the tools folder from mpc to MPC-BE? I am having some issues with sound & the video looks sub par when using the preview function. Thanks.

[jdobbs]

is it possible to change the default player in the tools folder from mpc to MPC-BE? I am having some issues with sound & the video looks sub par when using the preview function. Thanks.You should be able to put the path to MPC-BE in the BDREBUILDER.INI file's "[Paths]" area and it will likely work. Like this, for example:

[Options]
Your settings as they are now
...

[Paths]
MPC=C:\THE_PATH_TO\ProgramName.exe

Or there's a good chance that you could just rename MPC-BE to "mplayerc.exe" and replace it in the tools folder... but I haven't tried it. The command line used is just the player's path followed by the path to an AVS file that BD-RB creates.

[JugHead]

I tried renaming MPC-BE that didn't work... it did with MPC-HC though. I will try the .ini file next, Thanks.

[MrVideo]

For some strange reason, UHD backups to BD25 are taking A LOT longer recently. 576 frames took 55 seconds. It should breeze through that very fast. Yes, it is set to do hardware encoding. Any clues as to what to check?

UPDATE: A currently running job is only doing 10.5 fps. The GPU load is 3-4%.

UPDATE #2: A currently running job is doing 84.5 fps. GPU load is ~13%. No idea why the big change.

[MrVideo]

When doing a UHD backup, BDRB actually did a re-encode of a file only 6 frames long. As I type this, it even did one at 576 frames. Why?

I don't have IMPORT_THRESHOLD set, so that default is 15 minutes. I don't have MIN_M2TS_SIZE set either, so the 100 MB size should take affect, but it doesn't as the first file that it processes is only 6 KB in size. Also, the first three M2TS files are ignored. But the 2nd video file is larger than 100 MB, but only 4 secs long, so it fits one of the two restrictions.

I'm at a total loss as to why files that don't fit the two default settings are being processed.

[jdobbs]

There are a LOT of circumstances that might force a reencode. Some are less obvious than others, like having a filter enabled, or using a source that was imported (and needs to be made BD compliant).

[MrVideo]

There are a LOT of circumstances that might force a reencode. Some are less obvious than others, like having a filter enabled, or using a source that was imported (and needs to be made BD compliant).
USE_FILTERS=0
Browse to the UHD source. Not imported.

[jdobbs]

USE_FILTERS=0
Browse to the UHD source. Not imported.Part of a multi-part source maybe? Like I said, there are a lot of conditions that could cause forced reencoding.

[MrVideo]

Part of a multi-part source maybe?
Multi-part, as in?

[jdobbs]

Multi-part, as in?When a single playlist has more than one M2TS associated with it. It happens fairly often, especially when a source might have more than one play sequence (like alternate endings, original and director's cuts, etc). In those circumstances you have to encode all parts of the playlist (no matter how small one of them may be).

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent version of BD-RB (v0.62.16). Changes for this release:- Made VCEENC (AMD GPU encoder) available on
the Encoder menu by default. When first
selected, BD-RB will do a test to ensure
the capability is present and advise if it
couldn't confirm it.
- Changed the default method by which BD-RB
will decode VC-1 sources to AVISYNTH when
using QSVENC or VCEENC. Tests have shown
faster encoding when compared to internal
software decoding.
- Corrected an error that can cause QSVENCC
to fail when converting VFR sources during
import of file(s).
- Corrected an issue in which switching
between GPU encoders could cause wrong
values to be set for Q operations.
- Corrected an issue in which importing may
fail rarely during conversion when importing
certain unusual codecs using QSVENC. This
fix also corrects the issue in GPUENCC.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[MrVideo]

When a single playlist has more than one M2TS associated with it. It happens fairly often, especially when a source might have more than one play sequence (like alternate endings, original and director's cuts, etc). In those circumstances you have to encode all parts of the playlist (no matter how small one of them may be).
That is what I figured. Just checking to make sure. I'll take a look to see if this was the case using the UHD version of BDEdit.

UPDATE: I don't remember which movie it was. I'll keep an eye on it going forward.

[Lathe]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent version of BD-RB (v0.62.16). Changes for this release:- Made VCEENC (AMD GPU encoder) available on
the Encoder menu by default. When first
selected, BD-RB will do a test to ensure
the capability is present and advise if it
couldn't confirm it.
- Changed the default method by which BD-RB
will decode VC-1 sources to AVISYNTH when
using QSVENC or VCEENC. Tests have shown
faster encoding when compared to internal
software decoding.
- Corrected an error that can cause QSVENCC
to fail when converting VFR sources during
import of file(s).
- Corrected an issue in which switching
between GPU encoders could cause wrong
values to be set for Q operations.
- Corrected an issue in which importing may
fail rarely during conversion when importing
certain unusual codecs using QSVENC. This
fix also corrects the issue in GPUENCC.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Thank you Sir! It's amazing that you still have time to devote to this... :thanks:

[jdobbs]

thank you sir! It's amazing that you still have time to devote to this... :thanks: :) :cool:

[Lathe]

:) :cool:

It's been a while and I've heard you've had it pretty tough having to turn tricks outside of Denny's and all. So, I just sent you a little something (Sorry it's so little... Sadly, that's what SHE said...)

Cheers!

Jamie.

[jdobbs]

It's been a while and I've heard you've had it pretty tough having to turn tricks outside of Denny's and all. So, I just sent you a little something (Sorry it's so little... Sadly, that's what SHE said...)

Cheers!

Jamie.We all have to make a living somehow... :scared:... :D

...and at least at Dennys you can have breakfast at the end of your shift!

[Lathe]

We all have to make a living somehow... :scared:... :D

...and at least at Dennys you can have breakfast at the end of your shift!

You've always been such a practical guy... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczP_acttxFxsxDHaQZvU8S0KwkhLppEefBFtDgYWJrfj1xhuuaHZMgFVCWL1jAm6OQcD7970CQbcyu-J-UPq5bWk189v_AV4sMKMA7KsgYunR5b5VMYRhLsx_vaq8aXDJ1Yuz6KDOIoQ60d2kHqvxSwYhg=w25-h18-s-no-gm?authuser=0

[MrVideo]

Here's a thought. Maybe it is time to update to tsmuxer v2.7.0. Development is now complete. There are no longer any nightly updates.

[jdobbs]

Here's a thought. Maybe it is time to update to tsmuxer v2.7.0. Development is now complete. There are no longer any nightly updates.I'll take a look at it. But, I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm a little worried that the huge number of changes in the last couple (few?) years may make it a major task.

[MrVideo]

Ya, there will be a lot to look into. One example is the extraction of audio. They've now changed the extension for a few of the audio types. It now allows for coreless DD+ audio, but not coreless TrueHD. I know you don't want to allow for BD, or UHD, authoring with coreless DD+, but AFAIK, today's UHD players will handle coreless DD+. At least mine does. :D

UPDATE: It might not be my UHD player that is handling the DD+, but the Denon AVR, as I have the UHD doing passthru of the audio, whereby the AVR is doing the work.

[Emulgator]

There is hope ;-)
I can't remember any need to match my tsMuxeR commandlines versionwise seriously over the last few years,
It all seemed to work nicely (no 3D-BD involved though, I relied on BD-RB to do these, and it went beautifully)
But of course i should not speak about the work that already went into BD-RD to match all use cases.
Lets hope the 2.7.0 did not break anything I did not mux yet.

[NewUser16]

Hi All,

Does bd rebuilder support 50-series GPUs and NVEnC? My previous 4070Ti was working great, but my new 5070Ti although has dual NVEnC, bd rebuilder tells me "BD-RB could not confirm capability"

Thank you

[jdobbs]

Hi All,

Does bd rebuilder support 50-series GPUs and NVEnC? My previous 4070Ti was working great, but my new 5070Ti although has dual NVEnC, bd rebuilder tells me "BD-RB could not confirm capability"

Thank youNot sure why it wouldn't recognize it. Try adding this line to the "[Options]" area of BDREBUILDER.INI and see if it makes it work:

NVENC_CAPABLE=1

Also, as a test, you could run the following from the command line:

d:\the\path\to\bd_rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe --check-features

Of course the drive would be the one upon which you installed BD-RB. The output should show text which includes "codec: h.264/avc" and "codec: h.265/hevc"

I'd be interested in the results.

[NewUser16]

Thank you very much jdobbs

Unfortunately, that didn't work. Adding the line seem to recognize it, but I get: "Failed video encode, aborted"
Also, tested cmd and end up with:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.26100.4652]
(c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Adam>D:\ScratchDisk\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nvenc\nvencc.exe --check-features
NVEncC (x86) 5.41 (r2064) by rigaya, Oct 14 2021 13:59:26 (VC 1929/Win)
[NVENC API v11.1, CUDA 11.1]
reader: raw, y4m, avi, avs, vpy, avsw, avhw [H.264/AVC, H.265/HEVC, MPEG2, VP8, VP9, VC-1, MPEG1, MPEG4, AV1]

Environment Info
OS : Windows 11 x64 (26100) [UTF-8]
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D 16-Core Processor [5.09GHz] (16C/32T)
RAM: Used 10073 MB, Total 97938 MB

gpuinfo: cuCtxCreate error:0x3e7 (CUDA_ERROR_UNKNOWN)
No GPU found suitable for NVEnc Encoding.
Failed to initialize CUDA.


Hopefully that can determine the issue

I had few, nearly 100GB 4K UHD videos and I remember when I used 4070Ti with bd rebuider with the highest settings and 1 pass SQM to 25gb, the output was nearly identical to org. and it took maybe 2hrs max to encode. I hope I can do this with my 5070.
I thought, maybe I got bad rip, but I have tried with # of other videos to no avail

[jdobbs]

@NewUser16

I did find this information (https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/issues/675) It looks like a newer version of NVENCC may work. I can't say whether it works, but you may want to try it.

[NewUser16]

Thank you, but still no go, the same thing.

Just did some search on 50 series cards and NVENC not playing nicely with other software e.g. OBS, DaVinci resolve and few other. Seem that the software needed support to be added for 50 series cards to make it work. Is it possible that bd rebuider lacking that?
Whether that is something you would even consider that is another thing as it could be ton of work, I would love to use it with my 5070, but now, I'm curious if that's case, so I don't pull my hair trying:)

Thank you

[MrVideo]

I can't remember any need to match my tsMuxeR commandlines versionwise seriously over the last few years,
It all seemed to work nicely (no 3D-BD involved though, I relied on BD-RB to do these, and it went beautifully)
But of course i should not speak about the work that already went into BD-RD to match all use cases.
Lets hope the 2.7.0 did not break anything I did not mux yet.
The issue with tsmuxer isn't a problem when you create the file for tsmuxer to run. It is when BDRB is used to do a backup of a disc. The new tsmuxer uses different extensions for some of the audio streams. BDRB, when trying to work with said audio file, uses the older tsmuxer audio stream extensions. It therefore can't correctly figure out the amount of space needed by the audio streams, nor how to mux them back into the disc because it can no longer find the audio stream file.

When you supply the file names, there isn't an issue.

[dietachi]

@NewUser16

I did find this information (https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/issues/675) It looks like a newer version of NVENCC may work. I can't say whether it works, but you may want to try it.



Can confirm that latest NVEnc (https://github.com/rigaya/NVEnc/releases) version works with RTX 50xx cards.


@NewUser16

Download the NVEncC_8.10_Win32.7z extract it and replace the files in the NVEnc in the Tools folder inside the BDRebuilder folder, with the one in the archive