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geomtchr
14th August 2010, 02:09
I am having trouble with some movies using Bd rebuilder. They are, The Number 23, Stranger Than Fiction, and Pitch Black. All completed successfully but when I play the in my Panasonic DMPBD85 and DMPBD60. it just cycles back to the menu screen. All other movies have copied flawlessly. Ripped with ANY DVD. But Total Media Theater plays all three with no problems.
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.34.0.7, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

jdobbs
14th August 2010, 04:44
I am having trouble with some movies using Bd rebuilder. They are, The Number 23, Stranger Than Fiction, and Pitch Black. All completed successfully but when I play the in my Panasonic DMPBD85 and DMPBD60. it just cycles back to the menu screen. All other movies have copied flawlessly. Ripped with ANY DVD. But Total Media Theater plays all three with no problems.
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.34.0.7, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: OkAre you backing up to DVD-5/9 or BD-25?

datman
14th August 2010, 05:01
I had the same problem, I was doing movie only and BD_RB didn't have any selectable audio even though you know there has to be something there. If I remember correctly, running it thru Clown_BD fails also, but I used tsMuxeR_GUI output to bluray format to finally get a 224K stream that BD_RB recognizes. Then if you set BD_RB to use 224 audio it comes out fine. (THIS IS FOR MOVIE ONLY OF COURSE). This kind of :confused: audio has shown up on a couple other foreign disks. Happy Encoding!

I must have is understood how to select the 224 audio. I used the 224 audio and BDRB encoded it fine but it was the director’s commentary.

I did used Tsmuxer to demux both and muxed the BDRB video back with the untouched master audio and it worked. It was 9g but that’s ok. One thing however this was the only encode that I have ever done that the picture was much worse than the original. As older movies go the original was also very grainy but noticeably better than the encode.

jdobbs
14th August 2010, 05:03
I must have is understood how to select the 224 audio. I used the 224 audio and BDRB encoded it fine but it was the director’s commentary.

I did used Tsmuxer to demux both and muxed the BDRB video back with the untouched master audio and it worked. It was 9g but that’s ok. One thing however this was the only encode that I have ever done that the picture was much worse than the original. As older movies go the original was also very grainy but noticeably better than the encode. With 9Gig in audio it's no wonder...

pasadena
14th August 2010, 07:17
Hi all and thanks to Jdobbs for his excellent work with BD Rebuilder.

PS. I apologise for the long post in advance and if this has been addressed previously. I have attempted to search and read this thread where I can to solve my issues.

Hardware/Software: DVDfab and AnydvdHD to rip movies, the latter where I can. Splash Lite, VLC, PowerDVD, Corel WinDVD Pro to test out my backups. I do movie only backups to DVD-5 for playback on my PS3 60GB. I use Win 7 Ultimate x64/Q9650/XFX5770 and a Pioneer BDR-205BK and BDC-202BK for ripping.

I am using the current build and have been since .04. I use AVIsynth 2.5.7, Haali Matroska Splitter and ffdshow-rev3507_20100707_x64. I set MPEG2 to libavcodec and VC-1 to wmv9. For bdrb, I set my output to a custom size 0f 4195mb to fit onto a fat32 file system, normal priority, highest (very slow), both one pass CRF and ABR encoding unchecked, use open gops for encoding and have selected 1 audio english track and english subtitles with limit to one track per language unchecked.

I have had no problems ripping my movies to the Hard Drive but have encountered issues with subtitles where I have not been able to enable forced subs to work or even to have subs working in the first place for foreign films through bdrb. These being 2012 and Kungfu hustle respectively.

Of late, BDrb has not been able to process Dark Knight and Nanny Mcphee. As well, Nanny Mcphee and the Big Bang and Clash of the Titans finish processing, plays back fine on a PC but get jerky video playback on the PS3, either from a passport connected to the PS3, playing it stored on the PS3 or streamed via PS3 Media Server. There's obviously something the way that these have been procesed that my PS3 seems to disagree on.

Nanny Mcphee (Region Free) and Nanny Mcphee and the Big Bang (Region B) is an AUS double disc blu-ray set.

Nanny Mcphee comes back with the following error:
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[02:56:38] BD Rebuilder v0.34.07 (beta)
- Source: NANNY_MCPHEE_GLO
- Input BD size: 29.17 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:36.952]
- Target BD size: 4.10 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[02:56:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:56:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00279]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[03:05:40] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I have ripped Nanny Mcphee twice with no probelms and plays back on a PC perfectly.

Dark Knight I get the following error:
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[13:58:30] BD Rebuilder v0.34.07 (beta)
- Source: THE_DARK_KNIGHT
- Input BD size: 34.76 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:32:13.332]
- Target BD size: 4.10 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[13:58:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:58:31] Reencoding: VID_00007 (1 of 1)
- [13:58:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 218,981 frames
- Bitrate: 2,830 Kbs
- [13:58:31] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.34.07 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3071, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[14:01:33] - Failed video encode, aborted

I have ripped Dark Knight twice with no probelms and plays back on a PC perfectly.

I am starting to think that backing up to BD-25 seems like the easiest option to bypass all these problems but the cost of BD-25 blanks is not exactly enticing YET. :) DVD-DL Verbatims are half the price but I'm going to run into the same problem as I am now by going to DVD-9.

Apart from Verbatim DL, what do u recommend for blank BD-25's? Are TDK BD-25's any good?

In the end, I need a solution where the wife or kids can chuck in a disc on the PS3 and start watching a movie. The DVD-5 option is ok but only limited to the PS3 and you have to go through menus to select the file on the disc to play it whereas BD-25 is the logical answer. Best case scenario I'd like to have both BD-25 and DVD-5. DVD-5 being that I can store the movie onto my 500gb PS3 and take the PS3 away on weekends or holidays and watch movie straight off the box.

Any helpful hints on what I need to set or what I have forgotten to set would be much appreciated and thanks for your help in advance.

Cheers
Pasadena.

setarip_old
14th August 2010, 08:34
@pasadena

Hi!

According to High-Def Digest: Universal says the family fantasy/comedy 'Nanny McPhee' starring Emma Thompson, Colin Firth, and Angela Lansbury is coming to Blu-ray on August 17.

That being the case, you'll likely have to wait a few days for a response, so that the Doom 9 members who purchase it have a chance to try to process it...

pasadena
14th August 2010, 10:03
@pasadena

Hi!

According to High-Def Digest:

That being the case, you'll likely have to wait a few days for a response, so that the Doom 9 members who purchase it have a chance to try to process it...

Hi and thanks for your response. This will give me a bit more time to experiment to see where and what's going wrong and also whether or not I want to commit down the BD-25 path.

Cheers

geomtchr
14th August 2010, 11:06
Are you backing up to DVD-5/9 or BD-25?

I am backing up to BD 25, Thanks

Capsbackup
14th August 2010, 14:36
@pasadena;

PS. I apologise for the long post in advance and if this has been addressed previously. I have attempted to search and read this thread where I can to solve my issues.

FFDSHOW: 3071, not recommended version

Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.

You must have missed the very first post, page 1, same place you downloaded BD-RB. :rolleyes:

worknstiff
14th August 2010, 14:37
I must have is understood how to select the 224 audio. I used the 224 audio and BDRB encoded it fine but it was the director’s commentary.

I did used Tsmuxer to demux both and muxed the BDRB video back with the untouched master audio and it worked. It was 9g but that’s ok. One thing however this was the only encode that I have ever done that the picture was much worse than the original. As older movies go the original was also very grainy but noticeably better than the encode.

@Datman: When I did the movie, I had tsMuxeR (the only program I could find that would even acknowledge there was an audio stream btw) just pull the audio\video and save both untouched to a bluray format. (If I remember correctly the audio was 224k on the original disk to start with.) Then I used Clown_BD to make another bluray and to make sure what I fed to BD_RB was what I really wanted before I wait 10 hours to find I have a problem, LOL. Too many times I learned that the audio was wrong or had sync problems so an extra 20 minutes with Clown_BD is well worth it.

DarWun
14th August 2010, 20:53
I noticed something odd the other night when doing a Full Disk BD25 backup of Date Night using BD-Rebuilder 34.07. I wanted to retain the first and fourth audio tracks, both of which are English tracks. The second and third tracks are alternative languages that I wanted to discard. After setting everything up I added the project to the Batch Queue. I added a couple other backups to run overnight and clicked on Batch Backup. Once the backup had started, I clicked on the Stream Tab to check something. I noticed that the first and second audio tracks were selected instead of the first and fourth. I stopped the backup, reloaded the iso image, and checked the Stream Tab. The first and fourth tracks were selected as I wanted. I hit the Backup button, and checked the stream tab again. The first and fourth audio tracks were still selected. I stopped the backup, cleared the Batch Queue and added the project to the queue. After clicking on Batch Backup, I went back to the Stream Tab. Once again the first and second audio tracks were selected instead of the first and fourth.

When I get home from work tonight, I'll check some of my other backups to see if they exhibit the same behaviour.

datman
14th August 2010, 21:27
With 9Gig in audio it's no wonder...

no the total size was over 9g with the added audio.

datman
14th August 2010, 21:44
@Datman: When I did the movie, I had tsMuxeR (the only program I could find that would even acknowledge there was an audio stream btw) just pull the audio\video and save both untouched to a bluray format. (If I remember correctly the audio was 224k on the original disk to start with.) Then I used Clown_BD to make another bluray and to make sure what I fed to BD_RB was what I really wanted before I wait 10 hours to find I have a problem, LOL. Too many times I learned that the audio was wrong or had sync problems so an extra 20 minutes with Clown_BD is well worth it.

no the main audio is DTS 1536 Kbps there is a 2nd audio track that is 224 that is the directors commentary. Perhaps its a different version.

Was the video bad? I'm not at all happy with this release.

worknstiff
14th August 2010, 21:57
@Datman: Was the video bad? I'm not at all happy with this release.

Considering that the movie was from 1987, it looks pretty good. I was pleased with the compressed copy (BD_RB to BD-9), it was as good as the original IMO.

setarip_old
14th August 2010, 23:48
@pasadena Hi and thanks for your response. This will give me a bit more time to experiment to see where and what's going wrong and also whether or not I want to commit down the BD-25 path.It would be more meaningful if you waited to do your experimenting with the commercial version that you'll/we'll be able to purchase on August 17. That way "jdobbs" (the author of BD-RB) will know that he/we are not dealing with phantom problems that don't exist on the commercial BluRay disc...

colinhunt
15th August 2010, 00:02
A question about optimizing performance, if I may. During Pass 1, I'm getting 30fps while CPU load hovers at 20-25%. This is with the highest quality settings with added "--tune film" tweaks to both passes. Is there anything I can do to speed up the first pass? There's lots of idle CPU cycles to be taken advantage of, after all.

setarip_old
15th August 2010, 00:12
@DarWun

Hi! I noticed that the first and second audio tracks were selected instead of the first and fourth. (Just a guess) Did you happen to notice the Language labels as they now appeared? Were they labeled as the two English streams you'd selected?

setarip_old
15th August 2010, 00:16
@colinhunt

Hi! Is there anything I can do to speed up the first pass?I believe setting BD-RB's "Priority" setting to the highest possible should make for an overall improvement in processing speed...

colinhunt
15th August 2010, 00:33
I believe setting BD-RB's "Priority" setting to the highest possible should make for an overall improvement in processing speed...
For some reason I doubt it, to be honest. I'm running BD-RB at Normal priority and it's the only application running on the encoding rig (apart from Windows' own stuff, naturally). There's nothing stopping it from using more CPU that I'm aware of.

setarip_old
15th August 2010, 00:53
@colinhunt it's the only application running

Now that you've added this fact, I'd tend to agree with you ;>} - although there's still some background processes going on...

It would only take you a short while to test it.

DarWun
15th August 2010, 01:05
@DarWun

Hi! (Just a guess) Did you happen to notice the Language labels as they now appeared? Were they labeled as the two English streams you'd selected?

Both tracks I had selected were English. When viewing the streams during a batch encode, one of the streams was English and the other was French.

setarip_old
15th August 2010, 01:30
@DarWun

Did you let BD-RB do its full processing? If so, what was the actual end result regarding the selected audiostreams?

jdobbs
15th August 2010, 02:19
For some reason I doubt it, to be honest. I'm running BD-RB at Normal priority and it's the only application running on the encoding rig (apart from Windows' own stuff, naturally). There's nothing stopping it from using more CPU that I'm aware of. The first pass just isn't as demanding as the second and doesn't use as much processor speed.

What I could do when possible (where there is more than one M2TS to encode) is do the first pass of more than one job at a time... I'll take a look and see how hard that would be to do.

Ch3vr0n
15th August 2010, 02:28
The first pass just isn't as demanding as the second and doesn't use as much processor speed.

What I could do when possible (where there is more than one M2TS to encode) is do the first pass of more than one job at a time... I'll take a look and see how hard that would be to do.

That would simple be fantastic. No doubt it would speed up the backing up process a lot :)

ebjones
15th August 2010, 03:44
@ebjones

Please note this quote from the first post of this thread:Continually posting to try and give your problem priority will simply get it ignored.

I was not trying to circumvent the "system". I posted the bug over a week ago and received almost no response. Meanwhile, I've noted that several other bugs were reported and addressed. I prefaced my original message by admitting I was not sure if my post was following the correct protocol. I wasn't aware if I was doing something wrong that caused my post to be summarily ignored. Whether a solution was known or not, it would be nice to at least have the issue acknowledged/addressed so I'm not wondering what is going on. I mean how hard is it to say, "hey dude, i've never seen that let me get back 2 u" or "u know what, right now that's a ps3 issue and not a priority concern on this site" or a simple "dunno". Something... other than a reprimand to someone who patiently read thru hundreds of pages of bugs before even deciding to join so I could post a question and then had to wait 5 days to address the issue in the forum and then once was able to post waited several days w/o a word before resubmitting the information.

pasadena
15th August 2010, 04:26
@pasadena;







You must have missed the very first post, page 1, same place you downloaded BD-RB. :rolleyes:

Thanks for pointing out the revision of ffdshow I was using and I was aware I was using a more recent version but didn't think this would make a difference.

In any case, I installed the version as described on page 1 and ran 3 separate runs of Nanny Mcphee, Nanny Mcphee and the Big Bang and Dark Knight and all returned the same results as my first run of all three.

Nanny Mcphee and the Big Bang still plays back jerky/jittery on the PS3 and Nanny Mcphee failed to retrieve audio, aborted.

I'm going to re-run Dark Knght as I noticed some settings were not set when I re-installed the correct version of ffdshow so I'll do a re-run and post results when done.

I look forward to the official release as this is a great product to support. Well done Jdobbs and greatly appreciate your work and help.

Cheers
Pasadena

jdobbs
15th August 2010, 05:33
I was not trying to circumvent the "system". I posted the bug over a week ago and received almost no response. Meanwhile, I've noted that several other bugs were reported and addressed. I prefaced my original message by admitting I was not sure if my post was following the correct protocol. I wasn't aware if I was doing something wrong that caused my post to be summarily ignored. Whether a solution was known or not, it would be nice to at least have the issue acknowledged/addressed so I'm not wondering what is going on. I mean how hard is it to say, "hey dude, i've never seen that let me get back 2 u" or "u know what, right now that's a ps3 issue and not a priority concern on this site" or a simple "dunno". Something... other than a reprimand to someone who patiently read thru hundreds of pages of bugs before even deciding to join so I could post a question and then had to wait 5 days to address the issue in the forum and then once was able to post waited several days w/o a word before resubmitting the information.Typical. You act as if I "owe" you a response while you're using my free software at the expense of hundreds of hours of my time. People like you are exactly why I put that note in the first post of this thread. I don't know why I waste my time writing the software or debugging so that unappreciative people like yourself can take upon themselves to "correct" me when I ask nicely that they not post the same bug report multiple times...

colinhunt
15th August 2010, 09:36
What I could do when possible (where there is more than one M2TS to encode) is do the first pass of more than one job at a time... I'll take a look and see how hard that would be to do.
That would definitely fall in the "awesome" category :)

ebjones
15th August 2010, 10:15
Typical. You act as if I "owe" you a response while you're using my free software at the expense of hundreds of hours of my time. People like you are exactly why I put that note in the first post of this thread. I don't know why I waste my time writing the software or debugging so that unappreciative people like yourself can take upon themselves to "correct" me when I ask nicely that they not post the same bug report multiple times...

Wow... Unappreciative? I reported a bug. I was told by other members that I didn't post it right and I'd have to wait for my attachment to be approved. Upon hearing no other feedback, I re-posted trying to make sure I submitted the info as instructed. I hear nothing back from anyone. I send u a private pm asking if I was submitting the info correctly as noone was even acknowledging that I had asked a question about the software. No answer. So I submit the info a final time, double-checking that the info is as concise as possible and looks like all the other bugs I'm seeing reported and answered. I get scolded for posting the same issue too many times. And when I point out that maybe as a courtesy u could've at least addressed my issue even if to say u don't have time to look into it, you seem to find the time to tell me off.

Ur right. I don't appreciate that you ignored several of my posts only finally responding to tell me "nicely" that you would ignore me. Ur behaving as if I spammed the site numerous times within a 24 hr period. It's been nearly two weeks since I reported the issue and nothing I posted, save the last 2 perhaps, was anything but polite and unassuming. In that time I've patiently waited while others reported issues and had answers or at least feedback within hours if not minutes. Any issues I've had prior to the one I reported I worked out myself either thru trial and error or by reading thru the pages of this forum. On behalf of all my "kind", I apologize for the unreasonable expectation of at least receiving a response when I finally asked for help. U know people like "me" have purchased/donated for software they could have gotten elsewhere for free. Perhaps if u spent half the amount of time looking into my issue as u have chastising me, u would find that others like "myself" would be happy to show their appreciation for the hours u invest.

colinhunt
15th August 2010, 10:25
I reported a bug.
Yes, and he will get to it, eventually. You don't think he's got nothing else to do besides wrestling with BD-RB? Take a deep breath and chill.

longtom
15th August 2010, 11:59
I have a problem with 34.07 with Win7 in Parallels 5 VM.
Within the extracting A/V stream (from an other internal HDD) there comes the message TSMUXER could not resize, adjusting.
With the second try i get sometimes a BlueScreen.

bluestarCVO
15th August 2010, 13:21
Thanks for pointing out the revision of ffdshow I was using and I was aware I was using a more recent version but didn't think this would make a difference.

In any case, I installed the version as described on page 1 and ran 3 separate runs of Nanny Mcphee, Nanny Mcphee and the Big Bang and Dark Knight and all returned the same results as my first run of all three.

Nanny Mcphee and the Big Bang still plays back jerky/jittery on the PS3 and Nanny Mcphee failed to retrieve audio, aborted.

I'm going to re-run Dark Knght as I noticed some settings were not set when I re-installed the correct version of ffdshow so I'll do a re-run and post results when done.

I look forward to the official release as this is a great product to support. Well done Jdobbs and greatly appreciate your work and help.

Cheers
Pasadena

Why would you think that the version would not make a difference. If it did not make a difference jdobbs would not have wasted his time writing the first post of the thread, which it is very obvious that you did not read.
By the way, where is your source material coming from? Since Nanny McPhee has not been released on blu-ray yet, I have to wonder where you acquired the movie from??
Are all your source rips from the original disc?

jdobbs
15th August 2010, 14:26
Wow... Unappreciative? I reported a bug. I was told by other members that I didn't post it right and I'd have to wait for my attachment to be approved. Upon hearing no other feedback, I re-posted trying to make sure I submitted the info as instructed. I hear nothing back from anyone. I send u a private pm asking if I was submitting the info correctly as noone was even acknowledging that I had asked a question about the software. No answer. So I submit the info a final time, double-checking that the info is as concise as possible and looks like all the other bugs I'm seeing reported and answered. I get scolded for posting the same issue too many times. And when I point out that maybe as a courtesy u could've at least addressed my issue even if to say u don't have time to look into it, you seem to find the time to tell me off.

Ur right. I don't appreciate that you ignored several of my posts only finally responding to tell me "nicely" that you would ignore me. Ur behaving as if I spammed the site numerous times within a 24 hr period. It's been nearly two weeks since I reported the issue and nothing I posted, save the last 2 perhaps, was anything but polite and unassuming. In that time I've patiently waited while others reported issues and had answers or at least feedback within hours if not minutes. Any issues I've had prior to the one I reported I worked out myself either thru trial and error or by reading thru the pages of this forum. On behalf of all my "kind", I apologize for the unreasonable expectation of at least receiving a response when I finally asked for help. U know people like "me" have purchased/donated for software they could have gotten elsewhere for free. Perhaps if u spent half the amount of time looking into my issue as u have chastising me, u would find that others like "myself" would be happy to show their appreciation for the hours u invest. Here's some advice. Don't go away mad... just go away. I've seen people like you before... blah, blah, blah... I love to hear myself talk and I can type paragraph after paragraph explaining why I'm always right... blah, blah, blah. You're a cartoon.

Meanwhile I'll go back to doing useful work on BD-RB while we all wait with bated breath for your next ridiculous diatribe.

Guest
15th August 2010, 15:08
noone was even acknowledging that I had asked a question about the software That's an outright lie. setarip_old responded to you and you even thanked him for it.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1423136#post1423136

Also, maybe you can get more respect if you drop the kiddie-speak": "u", "ur", etc.

Further discussion about this should be taken to PM.

setarip_old
15th August 2010, 17:50
@bluestarCVO

Hi!

The questions you ask of "Pasadena" have already been asked (but not directly answered) twice before at:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1425903&postcount=9207

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1426103&postcount=9216

Hookahice
15th August 2010, 18:28
......I have recently ran into a problem backing up "The Warlords". My PS3 recognizes my BD-R and it appears to start, but then the screen goes blank/black and I'm unable to do anything except quit the movie.......

Hey there ebjones!

First of all, chillout!!!! Let's not make jdobbs engry... He is the freaking reason we are able to do what we do here using his knowledge and code! Let's keep this project going and be thankfull it has reached thus far!!!
And please remember, it’s not Dell Customer service center here...:p not everybody has the same environment/configuration so things that you may consider as bug(s) might be just on your side...no reason to get impatient.

Anyways, you are describing an exact same issue that I have seen before with PS3,,, Although this happened to me a while back so I can’t remember exactly what I did or which movie it was... (damn it!!!)
When inserting a movie (25GB encoded, tried both movie-only and full) into the PS3, the screen goes blank/black without the ability to do anything. Another movie did the same thing (blank/black screen) but audio was playing...
You might want to try and press "Select" on your PS3 controller to see what your PS3 is able to decode - this is an example of a movie that goes blank/black screen and plays music:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4827/ps3issue.jpg

As you can see the PS3 is unable to even decode or recognize the Video codec used in the movie and therefor not playing the video.

All I remember is that this is not consistent or pertaining to a specific codec... to better troubleshoot this, I should probably extract the information using BDEdit from the Blu-Ray movie that goes blank/black and do the same for the same movie that was successful (plays both audio and video) and see the differences (if any).
I will let you know if I find anything...or better yet, remember what I did to fix it...I just didn't run into this problem lately so it has been a while since I last encounter this issue...

Just a side question, have you tried using Movie-Only Backup? Or just Full Backup as your log describes? same results?

colinhunt
15th August 2010, 20:09
The first pass just isn't as demanding as the second and doesn't use as much processor speed.
Just one more slap on the hindquarters of this mare: what's stopping the first pass from using all available processor power and finishing sooner? It kinda flies in the face of logic that a math-intensive application would rather not use all the available CPU. Is there a bottleneck somewhere?

ebjones
15th August 2010, 21:28
That's an outright lie. setarip_old responded to you and you even thanked him for it.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1423136#post1423136

Also, maybe you can get more respect if you drop the kiddie-speak": "u", "ur", etc.

Further discussion about this should be taken to PM.

Are you serious?

I was told by other members that I didn't post it right and I'd have to wait for my attachment to be approved. Upon hearing no other feedback, I re-posted trying to make sure I submitted the info as instructed. I hear nothing back from anyone.

Please don't misrepresent me. And may I remind you I sent jdobbs a pm prior to him blasting me in the forum. Not asking him to hurry up and address my issue, but asking him if I had reported the info correctly as I was confused why it seemed noone had anything to say about what I posted. (Again this was my first time posting and setarip_old already told me my initial post wasn't submitted correctly) I wasn't sure if somthing was missing so I asked for help privately. How hard would it have been to just say, "yes, your bug has been reported" or "let me put that on the backburner" or "please double-check your settings". There are a myriad of responses that would've worked, but I got nothing. I've received plenty of feedback NOW via the forum and pm and I get it; jdobbs is a good dude who graciously donates much of his time to make sure we have this great software. I'm not saying he's not or trying to belittle anything he does; but please don't lose sight of the fact that I wasn't asking for priority support. I wasn't complaining that he had not resolved my issue. I just wanted an acknowledgement that my report had not fallen on deaf ears. And as I see it, he had multiple opportunities to do so before making me out to be the bad guy. I have no other point to make and hope that my future experience with this site, if any, will be a positive one. I trust that my grammer in this latest submission meets all requirements and does not cause me to be viewed with further disdain.

ebjones
15th August 2010, 21:42
Hey there ebjones!

First of all, chillout!!!! Let's not make jdobbs engry... He is the freaking reason we are able to do what we do here using his knowledge and code! Let's keep this project going and be thankfull it has reached thus far!!!
And please remember, it’s not Dell Customer service center here...:p not everybody has the same environment/configuration so things that you may consider as bug(s) might be just on your side...no reason to get impatient.

Anyways, you are describing an exact same issue that I have seen before with PS3,,, Although this happened to me a while back so I can’t remember exactly what I did or which movie it was... (damn it!!!)
When inserting a movie (25GB encoded, tried both movie-only and full) into the PS3, the screen goes blank/black without the ability to do anything. Another movie did the same thing (blank/black screen) but audio was playing...
You might want to try and press "Select" on your PS3 controller to see what your PS3 is able to decode - this is an example of a movie that goes blank/black screen and plays music:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4827/ps3issue.jpg

As you can see the PS3 is unable to even decode or recognize the Video codec used in the movie and therefor not playing the video.

All I remember is that this is not consistent or pertaining to a specific codec... to better troubleshoot this, I should probably extract the information using BDEdit from the Blu-Ray movie that goes blank/black and do the same for the same movie that was successful (plays both audio and video) and see the differences (if any).
I will let you know if I find anything...or better yet, remember what I did to fix it...I just didn't run into this problem lately so it has been a while since I last encounter this issue...

Just a side question, have you tried using Movie-Only Backup? Or just Full Backup as your log describes? same results?

Thanks for the reply. Although I won't rule out that the issue is "on my side", I will point out that I have backed up several movies before and after "The Warlords" with no issue using virtually the same settings. (I may have selected an extra audio track on one vs. the other) I have only tried full backup mode as my log described; but as that has been a constant in all my back-ups I didn't think to change that setting. One of the suggestions I received via pm suggested I invest in some bd-re's and/or try to play the back-up disc in another standalone blu-ray player to isolate if this is solely a PS3 issue. This is an excellent idea and I will look into both. Meanwhile, should you happen to remember the fix or find a solution I sincerely thank you in advance for letting me know.

DarWun
15th August 2010, 22:05
@DarWun

Did you let BD-RB do its full processing? If so, what was the actual end result regarding the selected audiostreams?

I didn't let BD-RB do its full processing. When I looked in the Working Directory after the a/v tracks were extracted, the two audio tracks located there were incorrect. I stopped the backup at that point.

setarip_old
15th August 2010, 22:43
@DarWun

Then you have no way of knowing whether the right or wrong tracks would actually be used (Perhaps they are just being "re-ordered" during processing)...

jdobbs
15th August 2010, 22:47
@ebjones

That's a strike for failing to follow the instructions of Neuron2. I'll be happy to give more for rules 3, 4 & 8 if you wish to continue this nonsense. Read the rules and comply, or go elsewhere. Frankly it's really getting annoying.

ebjones
15th August 2010, 23:33
@ebjones

That's a strike for failing to follow the instructions of Neuron2. I'll be happy to give more for rules 3, 4 & 8 if you wish to continue this nonsense. Read the rules and comply, or go elsewhere. Frankly it's really getting annoying.

My bad... I am in error as I did not read the forum rules. I figure they were just the usual "do not use profanity, do not belittle other's ideas/comments", etc... I thought you ran this site. I didn't realize there was a moderator team in place and that Neuron2 was part of such and giving me a directive. I thought he was just one of the software users putting in his "two-cents" worth. I also did not realize that the rules state that moderators will not answer topic discussions via pm. In any event, I have now thoroughly read the rules and will endeavor to comply in the future. Thank you.

DarWun
16th August 2010, 01:42
@DarWun

Then you have no way of knowing whether the right or wrong tracks would actually be used (Perhaps they are just being "re-ordered" during processing)...

I just tried a batch backup of Natural Born Killers. It has a couple of English Tracks that are separated by several alternative language tracks. All English tracks were retained as I selected in both normal and batch backup modes. So it seems to be an issue with the Date Night bluray.

Weird.

setarip_old
16th August 2010, 03:22
@DarWun

I wonder if it could have anything to do with the extended version versus the theatrical version?

SquallMX
16th August 2010, 04:38
Anyways, you are describing an exact same issue that I have seen before with PS3,,, Although this happened to me a while back so I can’t remember exactly what I did or which movie it was... (damn it!!!)
When inserting a movie (25GB encoded, tried both movie-only and full) into the PS3, the screen goes blank/black without the ability to do anything. Another movie did the same thing (blank/black screen) but audio was playing...
You might want to try and press "Select" on your PS3 controller to see what your PS3 is able to decode - this is an example of a movie that goes blank/black screen and plays music:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4827/ps3issue.jpg

As you can see the PS3 is unable to even decode or recognize the Video codec used in the movie and therefor not playing the video.



I was having the same problem, the cause was using MKV container as a intermediary format when using newer builds of x264 (any build using the official blu-ray HRD patch), selecting RAW output fixed the issue. :helpful:

DarWun
16th August 2010, 05:01
@DarWun

Then you have no way of knowing whether the right or wrong tracks would actually be used (Perhaps they are just being "re-ordered" during processing)...

Actually, I think I do. I played back the tracks to make sure they were what they said they were. After hearing french when I played back the one track, I knew there was a problem.

videoadvocate
16th August 2010, 16:31
I tried to do a full backup of Star Trek TOS season 3 disk 1 using BDR v3407 and have a really strange result. When I play the recorded disk on my Panasonic BD60, the disk fails when I select an episode from the TOP or POPUP menus. The machine tries to play something, then returns to the same menu. However, strangely enough, when I use a software player (PowerDVD10), everything seems to work fine. Any ideas? The log and ini files are attached. Thanks so much for the assistance and your generosity.



Yep. That one was caused by changes I made to support qpfile. The new version will come out when I finish the code for DTS Express -- which is taking much longer than I anticipated (not because it's so incredibly hard -- but because I've been incredibly busy lately).

ebjones
16th August 2010, 22:30
I was having the same problem, the cause was using MKV container as a intermediary format when using newer builds of x264 (any build using the official blu-ray HRD patch), selecting RAW output fixed the issue. :helpful:


Excuse my ignorance, but I don't follow. MKV container, RAW output...these things would come into play when ripping from disc to the hard drive?

Capsbackup
16th August 2010, 23:39
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't follow. MKV container, RAW output...these things would come into play when ripping from disc to the hard drive?

There is a text file in the BD-RB zip file called HIDDENOPTS, where there will various options, called hidden options, that can be placed in the BD-RB .ini to force certain parameters.
None are necessary, as BD-RB will perform just fine with the default settings. However, for some, be it more experienced users, or just user experience, some options may provide improvements or perceived visual enhancements, or maybe work arounds for certain conditions. ;)

You can also open the CHANGES text file located in the same folder to read about the bug fixes and updates from BD-RB's inception, and what these hidden options stand for.