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worknstiff
19th December 2012, 16:15
@ Bruchto RE: can someone explain me this point? from the same ISO, Other Movie Only playlist
Why when i choose a 50Gb custom target, the final ISO is 17Gb in size (no reencode)

If you do a "Movie Only" backup then the movie is in 61 different .m2ts files and BD_Rebuilder is combining them into only one 00000.m2ts file. It has to re-encode to "Build" the movie only file. Also you need to select the other "Movie Only" playlist because the actual movie is only 1:58:18 minutes instead of the 2:10.16.30 that you have selected. hope that explained it, worknstiff

brunchto
19th December 2012, 17:12
@ Bruchto RE: can someone explain me this point? from the same ISO, Other Movie Only playlist
Why when i choose a 50Gb custom target, the final ISO is 17Gb in size (no reencode)

If you do a "Movie Only" backup then the movie is in 61 different .m2ts files and BD_Rebuilder is combining them into only one 00000.m2ts file. It has to re-encode to "Build" the movie only file. Also you need to select the other "Movie Only" playlist because the actual movie is only 1:58:18 minutes instead of the 2:10.16.30 that you have selected. hope that explained it, worknstiff

both are movie only and the same playlist is selected, then the same 61 m2ts files.
2h10 because it's a long version

gzr
20th December 2012, 03:47
[Added] It's a little scary that these are about 2MB smaller than the X264.NL version. That makes me wonder what wasn't included in the build?
Komisar says that the 2MB of difference in the size of the files is because he don't use audio decoders from ffmpeg library

PillPu$her
21st December 2012, 03:37
I'm trying to rebuild Total Recall as well. The first playlist (2:10) is the commentary. The actual movie playlist is the other playlist. But whenever I preview a VID file, the language is french, even though TRUE HD, Multichannel English is the only Audio selected. I tried unselecting that audio track and trying others, but it always previews in french. So either the preview player is not controlled by what I select in the audio stream, or something won't let me change it. What do you think?

Adbear
21st December 2012, 07:42
I'm pretty sure this is because the preview player can't play back HD audio so it defaults to the next available audio track which in this case is French. The preview player in BD Rebuilder is there so you can check the video for that file so you know if it's a trailer etc and then you know if you can blank it out or not, it's not there to play it back with the specific audio you choose

jdobbs
22nd December 2012, 14:26
Komisar says that the 2MB of difference in the size of the files is because he don't use audio decoders from ffmpeg library

Ahh... makes sense. BD-RB doesn't use the audio decoder anyway. Great.

jdobbs
22nd December 2012, 14:28
I'm pretty sure this is because the preview player can't play back HD audio so it defaults to the next available audio track which in this case is French. The preview player in BD Rebuilder is there so you can check the video for that file so you know if it's a trailer etc and then you know if you can blank it out or not, it's not there to play it back with the specific audio you choose It's also possible that it is related to which shows up first in the M2TS file. The order doesn't have to match that of the BD PIDs.

HiQ123
22nd December 2012, 17:32
One Question: In v0.42.06 AUTO_QUALITY=0, but in v0.42.07 AUTO_QUALITY=1. Both have the same settings, what does this mean?

jdobbs
22nd December 2012, 18:38
AUTO_QUALITY is now and has always defaulted to 1. It is turned on/off based upon the SETTINGS/ENCODER SETTINGS/AUTOMATIC QUALITY SETTINGS menu selection.

Sharc
22nd December 2012, 23:39
@jdobbs
Could you already look at this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1606271#post1606271)? I believe it is a bug, or is it beyond the purpose of the import function?

setarip_old
23rd December 2012, 03:44
@PillPu$her

Hi! I'm trying to rebuild Total Recall as well. The first playlist (2:10) is the commentary.Just to let you know that you are mistaken. The 2hr10m playlist is for the extended version of the movie...

setarip_old
23rd December 2012, 03:47
@jdobbs If I recall, though, you don't allow updates on your 360? Your recollection is correct ;>}

setarip_old
23rd December 2012, 03:51
@jdobbs unless maybe it has updated its BIOS and is subject to CinaviaAbsolutely not - and besides, if it DID have Cinavia-updated hardware, it would rear its ugly head (Onscreen message and befouled audiostream) on a BD25 as well as "BD"9...

setarip_old
23rd December 2012, 03:56
@gonca

Hi! The 360 doesn't seem to like full disk (BD) on DVD media I wish it was that simple - but I have several hundred FULL DISC "BD"5s and "BD"9s that play perfectly on my SONY 360...

Capsbackup
23rd December 2012, 05:18
@gonca

Hi! I wish it was that simple - but I have several hundred FULL DISC "BD"5s and "BD"9s that play perfectly on my SONY 360...

What if the original has PiP and Dolby Digital Plus secondary audio? ( same is true with DTS Express secondary audio)
I have done numerous full backups as well and my S360 will behave just as you reported if DVD media is used, but works perfectly if BDR/RE media is used.
I have no problems with full disc backups to DVD media as long as the original Blu-ray does not have PiP.

setarip_old
23rd December 2012, 08:34
@Capsbackup What if the original has PiP and Dolby Digital Plus secondary audio?I believe I noted the behavior you described for that specific structure (PiP and Dolby Digital Plus secondary audio) regarding backing up some "Disney Nature" Blu-rays - and had suggested privately to jdobbs that perhaps he could substitute DD+ for backups that contain DTSExpress.

I'll have to research those discs to be sure that "BD"9s and "BD"5s did, in fact, display the PIPs, but without any audio...

gonca
23rd December 2012, 16:02
@setarip_old
My memory must be going, getting old I guess.
My Sony has been wrapped up for a while in favor of a htpc.
Sorry for the bad tip, maybe I was thinking of Capsbackup point.
Going to take my geritol now. :o

SquallMX
23rd December 2012, 20:56
Is it normal for multi-angle/Seamless branching titles to be encoded using LAVF instead of DirectShow?

jdobbs
24th December 2012, 00:20
Is it normal for multi-angle/Seamless branching titles to be encoded using LAVF instead of DirectShow? Yes. Directshow can occasionally lose a frame or two at the end of an encode. While that is no big deal for most encodes because it is at the end -- it can be an issue with multi-part sources (possibly causing a slight "hiccup"). So when Directshow is selected and you are encoding a multi-part source -- BD-RB uses LAVF (just to be safe) when there is no other factor that would exclude it (like resizing, etc).

SquallMX
24th December 2012, 00:39
Yes. Directshow can occasionally lose a frame or two at the end of an encode. While that is no big deal for most encodes because it is at the end -- it can be an issue with multi-part sources (possibly causing a slight "hiccup"). So when Directshow is selected and you are encoding a multi-part source -- BD-RB uses LAVF (just to be safe) when there is no other factor that would exclude it (like resizing, etc).

Thanks for the explanation, I'm asking because just like all the content encoded using LAVF the framerate is detected as 25 fps, causing an small undersize (like 4%), and potential out-of-specs streams (in my experience the resulting discs play fine with my El cheapo standalone, PC and PS3).

:thanks:

RobertM
24th December 2012, 14:17
Has anyone else noticed any audio problems when rebuilding Total Recall 2012? My movie-only rebuild (BD-RB 42.07) went flawlessly, with no error messages, but the resulting audio was loud, distorted and SLIGHTLY slow. Sync was fine at the start, but got progressively worse until, by the end, it was about 1/2 second behind the video -- quite noticeable. Note that the original video stream rip comprised 70 pieces.

I solved the problem by demuxing the rebuild (to grab the rebuilt, single-part video), shortening the English audio track from the rip by 12 frames (approx 1/2 sec) and manually remuxing these back together. I sat down and watched the entire result on my standalone and the sync is now pretty good.

It's the first time I've noticed a problem like this. I'm using the current versions of helper software and Inspect.exe reports clean. I stepped back to to BD-RB 42.04 (with its older version of FFSDHOW) and got the same result. The log is way too long to post, but I can do so (removing most of the 70 parts) if anyone is interested.

As I've said, my rebuild is now good, so I don't really need any help, but I'm wondering if someone else might be seeing a similar thing.

jdobbs
24th December 2012, 15:42
Has anyone else noticed any audio problems when rebuilding Total Recall 2012? My movie-only rebuild (BD-RB 42.07) went flawlessly, with no error messages, but the resulting audio was loud, distorted and SLIGHTLY slow. Sync was fine at the start, but got progressively worse until, by the end, it was about 1/2 second behind the video -- quite noticeable. Note that the original video stream rip comprised 70 pieces.

I solved the problem by demuxing the rebuild (to grab the rebuilt, single-part video), shortening the English audio track from the rip by 12 frames (approx 1/2 sec) and manually remuxing these back together. I sat down and watched the entire result on my standalone and the sync is now pretty good.

It's the first time I've noticed a problem like this. I'm using the current versions of helper software and Inspect.exe reports clean. I stepped back to to BD-RB 42.04 (with its older version of FFSDHOW) and got the same result. The log is way too long to post, but I can do so (removing most of the 70 parts) if anyone is interested.

As I've said, my rebuild is now good, so I don't really need any help, but I'm wondering if someone else might be seeing a similar thing. I'll pick it up and give it a test.

RobertM
24th December 2012, 15:50
I'll pick it up and give it a test.

It's on me, bud! Merry Christmas.

jdobbs
24th December 2012, 15:51
Thanks for the explanation, I'm asking because just like all the content encoded using LAVF the framerate is detected as 25 fps, causing an small undersize (like 4%), and potential out-of-specs streams (in my experience the resulting discs play fine with my El cheapo standalone, PC and PS3).

:thanks: I don't see how the undersize could be related to the fps. The frame count remains the same no matter what framerate you use and that's what determines the size. The reason you're not seeing out-of-spec and it plays fine is because the framerate is set correctly by TSMUXER during the mux. BD-RB uses the framerate from the CLPI and MPLS files for the mux and for when it calculates bitrate.

But I'll play with it a little, just to be positive.

[Edit] I just tested it. LAVF defaults to 25fps only when it can't detect the framerate from the source. My tests show that LAVF is correctly detecting the frame rate from the .264 source that is used for encoding. But I'll add some code to force the encoding rate for LAVF anyway.

Capsbackup
24th December 2012, 16:19
I had no problems with Total Recall 2012, audio looks perfectly in sync. Mine is a full backup to BDR, keeping the original Dolby True HD audio.
This is a multi-part Blu-ray, with an option to watch the movie with behind the scenes video. (It is not a true PiP 480P secondary video/audio type though, but an alternative playlist)

RobertM
24th December 2012, 16:41
I had no problems with Total Recall 2012, audio looks perfectly in sync. Mine is a full backup to BDR, keeping the original Dolby True HD audio.

I'll try a full disc backup to a BD-RE-50 disc and see what happens.

Capsbackup
24th December 2012, 17:33
I'll try a full disc backup to a BD-RE-50 disc and see what happens.

Mine was to BD-25, so there was reencoding of all multi-part m2ts files, but I just kept the HD audio.

SquallMX
24th December 2012, 18:01
I don't see how the undersize could be related to the fps. The frame count remains the same no matter what framerate you use and that's what determines the size. The reason you're not seeing out-of-spec and it plays fine is because the framerate is set correctly by TSMUXER during the mux. BD-RB uses the framerate from the CLPI and MPLS files for the mux and for when it calculates bitrate.

But I'll play with it a little, just to be positive.

[Edit] I just tested it. LAVF defaults to 25fps only when it can't detect the framerate from the source. My tests show that LAVF is correctly detecting the frame rate from the .264 source that is used for encoding. But I'll add some code to force the encoding rate for LAVF anyway.

Thanks for your help, my logs for the movie Chronicle (2012, FOX).

[12/23/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.04 (beta)
[13:44:38] Source: CHRONICLE
- Input BD size: 30.88 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:19:01.373]
- Target BD size: 23.05 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[13:44:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:44:40] Processing: VID_00616 (100 of 112)
- [13:44:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00616]
- [13:46:30] Reencoding video [VID_00616]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 20,748 frames
- Bitrate: 17,150 Kbs
- [13:46:30] Reencoding: VID_00616, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:57:00] Reencoding: VID_00616, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:32:22] Video Encode complete
- [14:32:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [14:32:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:33:20] Processing: VID_00617 (101 of 112)
- [14:33:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00617]
- [14:33:30] Reencoding video [VID_00617]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,074 frames
- Bitrate: 16,920 Kbs
- [14:33:30] Reencoding: VID_00617, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:34:01] Reencoding: VID_00617, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:35:53] Video Encode complete
- [14:35:53] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [14:35:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:35:59] Processing: VID_00618 (102 of 112)
- [14:35:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00618]
- [14:36:59] Reencoding video [VID_00618]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 13,343 frames
- Bitrate: 12,447 Kbs
- [14:36:59] Reencoding: VID_00618, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:42:14] Reencoding: VID_00618, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:54:59] Video Encode complete
- [14:54:59] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [14:54:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:55:28] Processing: VID_00620 (103 of 112)
- [14:55:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00620]
- [14:55:51] Reencoding video [VID_00620]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,147 frames
- Bitrate: 16,825 Kbs
- [14:55:51] Reencoding: VID_00620, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:58:05] Reencoding: VID_00620, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:04:18] Video Encode complete
- [15:04:18] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:04:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:04:30] Processing: VID_00621 (104 of 112)
- [15:04:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00621]
- [15:04:45] Reencoding video [VID_00621]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,418 frames
- Bitrate: 17,415 Kbs
- [15:04:45] Reencoding: VID_00621, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:06:01] Reencoding: VID_00621, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:10:27] Video Encode complete
- [15:10:27] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:10:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:10:36] Processing: VID_00622 (105 of 112)
- [15:10:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00622]
- [15:10:43] Reencoding video [VID_00622]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 784 frames
- Bitrate: 17,321 Kbs
- [15:10:43] Reencoding: VID_00622, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:11:11] Reencoding: VID_00622, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:12:30] Video Encode complete
- [15:12:30] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:12:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:12:36] Processing: VID_00623 (106 of 112)
- [15:12:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00623]
- [15:12:45] Reencoding video [VID_00623]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,347 frames
- Bitrate: 17,162 Kbs
- [15:12:45] Reencoding: VID_00623, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:13:35] Reencoding: VID_00623, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:15:46] Video Encode complete
- [15:15:46] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:15:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:15:53] Processing: VID_00624 (107 of 112)
- [15:15:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00624]
- [15:16:01] Reencoding video [VID_00624]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,096 frames
- Bitrate: 17,303 Kbs
- [15:16:01] Reencoding: VID_00624, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:16:40] Reencoding: VID_00624, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:18:32] Video Encode complete
- [15:18:32] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:18:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:18:38] Processing: VID_00625 (108 of 112)
- [15:18:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00625]
- [15:18:45] Reencoding video [VID_00625]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 882 frames
- Bitrate: 17,394 Kbs
- [15:18:45] Reencoding: VID_00625, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:19:14] Reencoding: VID_00625, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:20:53] Video Encode complete
- [15:20:53] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:20:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:20:59] Processing: VID_00626 (109 of 112)
- [15:20:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00626]
- [15:21:06] Reencoding video [VID_00626]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 753 frames
- Bitrate: 17,175 Kbs
- [15:21:06] Reencoding: VID_00626, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:21:29] Reencoding: VID_00626, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:22:32] Video Encode complete
- [15:22:32] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:22:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:22:37] Processing: VID_00627 (110 of 112)
- [15:22:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00627]
- [15:22:45] Reencoding video [VID_00627]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 970 frames
- Bitrate: 16,818 Kbs
- [15:22:45] Reencoding: VID_00627, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:23:17] Reencoding: VID_00627, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:24:53] Video Encode complete
- [15:24:53] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:24:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:24:59] Processing: VID_00628 (111 of 112)
- [15:24:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00628]
- [15:25:06] Reencoding video [VID_00628]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 760 frames
- Bitrate: 17,248 Kbs
- [15:25:06] Reencoding: VID_00628, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:25:29] Reencoding: VID_00628, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:26:52] Video Encode complete
- [15:26:52] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:26:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:26:57] Processing: VID_00629 (112 of 112)
- [15:26:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00629]
- [15:28:01] Reencoding video [VID_00629]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 13,223 frames
- Bitrate: 12,583 Kbs
- [15:28:01] Reencoding: VID_00629, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:33:24] Reencoding: VID_00629, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:46:05] Video Encode complete
- [15:46:05] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (jpn): Keeping original audio
- Track 4359 (por): Keeping original audio
- [15:46:05] Multiplexing M2TS
[15:46:33]PHASE ONE complete
[15:46:33]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:46:33] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:46:49] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[15:46:49] JOB: CHRONICLE finished.
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1Bullet
24th December 2012, 19:38
Has anyone else noticed any audio problems when rebuilding Total Recall 2012? My movie-only rebuild (BD-RB 42.07) went flawlessly, with no error messages, but the resulting audio was loud, distorted and SLIGHTLY slow. Sync was fine at the start, but got progressively worse until, by the end, it was about 1/2 second behind the video -- quite noticeable.

@ RobertM
I had same issue, problem maybe with what you ripped with.
I used DVDfab 9.0.1.5 and ripped main movie out.(Directors cut). It played fine with Arcsoft total media, with out sync issues.
When I ran it thru BD rebuiler audio was out at end. I could visible see sync issue by chapter middle of chapter 14
I then ripped entire BD disc and let BD rebuilder do movie-only backup of the entire rip and audio is now in sync.

jdobbs
24th December 2012, 19:50
@ RobertM
I had same issue, problem maybe with what you ripped with.
I used DVDfab 9.0.1.5 and ripped main movie out.(Directors cut). It played fine with Arcsoft total media, with out sync issues.
When I ran it thru BD rebuiler audio was out at end. I could visible see sync issue by chapter middle of chapter 14
I then ripped entire BD disc and let BD rebuilder do movie-only backup of the entire rip and audio is now in sync.@RobertM

Did you let BD Rebuilder do the movie-only, or did you use another package to do the breakout first (as 1Bullet mentioned)?

I picked up "Total Recall". I'll let you know what I find when I reencode it to movie-only.

1Bullet
24th December 2012, 19:53
I did both
Issue after I let DVDFab break it out.
No issue when I let BD rebuilder break it out.

For any complaints on slight hesitations about 4 during film with duration of 1/8 of a second , they are in the original BD disc as well.

jdobbs
24th December 2012, 19:55
did both
Issue after I let DVDFab break it out.
No issue when I let BD rebuilder break it outThanks. I saw that you had -- I was actually asking RobertM to see if his problem was from the same procedure.

RobertM
24th December 2012, 20:14
@RobertM
Did you let BD Rebuilder do the movie-only, or did you use another package to do the breakout first (as 1Bullet mentioned)?

I just followed my usual procedure:

Rip with AnyDVD-HD
Choose movie-only stream in BD-RB.
High-Quality
2-pass
Keep only one audio stream (re-encode HD to AC3)
Keep all English subs
Custom size 24200 MB.

Note that this was NOT the director's cut, so 1:58 duration.

I also tried keeping the HD audio with the same result.

jdobbs
24th December 2012, 20:45
I just followed my usual procedure:

Rip with AnyDVD-HD
Choose movie-only stream in BD-RB.
High-Quality
2-pass
Keep only one audio stream (re-encode HD to AC3)
Keep all English subs
Custom size 24200 MB.

Note that this was NOT the director's cut, so 1:58 duration.

I also tried keeping the HD audio with the same result.

Ok. That's the one I'm encoding right now.

gonca
24th December 2012, 20:58
@RobertM
Is your disc the region free version from the USA. There are reports of some versions of this movie having a badly authored TRUEHD track.

1Bullet
24th December 2012, 21:05
When using BD rebuild on the entire ripped disc with then process movie only I end up with directors cut duration 2:10:16. as BD rebuilder choose's playlist 801 for Main Movie Only by default.
The only way for for me to get Theatrical is to choose Other Movie Only and selecting playlist 800.

Both have 16 chapters.

For others complaining of slight hesitations (1\8 of a second) about 4 or 5 times during film they are in the original disc.
My movie only with BD rebuilder from total rip now has no hesitations. I going to have to do both versions now.
I will do theatrical cause movie my first extended version plays better than the original disc.

setarip_old
25th December 2012, 00:14
I wonder if the included Verance/"Cinavia" audio watermarking was done in a less-than-perfect way for this disc?

gonca
25th December 2012, 00:33
@setarip_old
Ironically it is the USA region free disc that is not problematic. My disc has the theatrical release and a 2:10 "commentary" type track. No extended version. This seems to be the disc with no trouble.

RobertM
25th December 2012, 01:39
@setarip_old
Ironically it is the USA region free disc that is not problematic. My disc has the theatrical release and a 2:10 "commentary" type track. No extended version. This seems to be the disc with no trouble.

That sounds like the same disc that caused my problem. Theatrical release plus commentary. The disc is printed "Made in the U.S.A."

setarip_old
25th December 2012, 06:47
Rental?

meadrocks
25th December 2012, 07:54
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gonca
25th December 2012, 13:26
@setarip_old
No. In Canada we have a special release with extended version, and regular disc, without. Our releases tend to be the same as the USA, but this could be a demographics thing. The MPAA has declared Canada a major pirating coutry, and this way they think that they will slowdown the downloads.
By releasing the extended, special, version a couple of weeks later they hope people will buy it twice.

jdobbs
25th December 2012, 14:41
I just followed my usual procedure:

Rip with AnyDVD-HD
Choose movie-only stream in BD-RB.
High-Quality
2-pass
Keep only one audio stream (re-encode HD to AC3)
Keep all English subs
Custom size 24200 MB.

Note that this was NOT the director's cut, so 1:58 duration.

I also tried keeping the HD audio with the same result. I was able to repeat it. It looks like the sync is slightly out at the end of the picture. It's not dramatic -- but definitely there.

I'll look at it and see what's happening. One thing I noticed was an audio mismatch in the PAT/PMT table on one of the parts close to the middle of the movie... that may have something to do with it, but I don't know yet.

setarip_old
25th December 2012, 20:07
By releasing the extended, special, version a couple of weeks later they hope people will buy it twice. Greed, pure and simple...

lauguru
28th December 2012, 17:32
that encode type is this? , Quality: EQ6_Mode, Two Pass (ENCODE_QUALITY=6)

The most I had seen it ENCODE_QUALITY = 4 ultra high quality

Sharc
28th December 2012, 18:34
Problems with Windows 7 64bit.
BD-RB gives this error:
12.28.12 [18:24:46] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1604
All ok with inspect exe and ffdshow is successfully configured using ffreset.bat run as administrator.
Any clue?

Sharc
28th December 2012, 19:14
Problems with Windows 7 64bit.
BD-RB gives this error:
12.28.12 [18:24:46] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1604
All ok with inspect exe and ffdshow is successfully configured using ffreset.bat run as administrator.
Any clue?

Ooops! I found it: Path to DGdecNV in BDREBUILDER.INI was wrong.

D-Train61
29th December 2012, 17:48
Hi guys,
I'm getting a lot of the same types of error messages, most of which seem to be able to be ignored. For instance every time I run BD-RB (by right clicking and selecting "run as administrator") I still get the message that FFDShow is not configured correctly and would I like BD-RB to configure it for me. I say Yes and it opens a DOS window saying the system could not find the path specified. Then "unsuccessful - must run it as administrator"
After I press any key to continue it tells me "Your Windows 7 system was successfully configured to run FFDShow with BD Rebuilder"??
This happens EVERY TIME I use BD-RB, and then it seems to work OK, I just ignore it but thought I'd mention it to see if you guys can tell me how to make it go away.

Also, the latest Blu-Ray I've tried to backup gives me the 1801 error message:

[08:29:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:29:19] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 3)
- [08:29:19] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [08:29:20] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00002_4352.AVS]
[08:29:20] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

This has never occurred before and I'm not sure how to get around it. Any ideas?
Thanks!!

P.S. I'm trying to redo the movie selecting "Movie Only" this time instead of entire disk"I also told it to only save English subtitles instead of all languages this time. Not sure if these options will be more successful or not?

Nope, here is the new results:

[08:53:06] Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID_00001
- Input BD size: 19.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:21:35.932]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:53:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:53:09] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 1)
- [08:53:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [09:29:12] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [09:29:12] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [09:29:12] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [09:29:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00002_4352.AVS]
[09:29:13] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

HELP!?!?

omegaman7
29th December 2012, 20:16
Hi guys,
I'm getting a lot of the same types of error messages, most of which seem to be able to be ignored. For instance every time I run BD-RB (by right clicking and selecting "run as administrator") I still get the message that FFDShow is not configured correctly and would I like BD-RB to configure it for me. I say Yes and it opens a DOS window saying the system could not find the path specified. Then "unsuccessful - must run it as administrator"
After I press any key to continue it tells me "Your Windows 7 system was successfully configured to run FFDShow with BD Rebuilder"??
This happens EVERY TIME I use BD-RB, and then it seems to work OK, I just ignore it but thought I'd mention it to see if you guys can tell me how to make it go away.

Also, the latest Blu-Ray I've tried to backup gives me the 1801 error message:

[08:29:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:29:19] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 3)
- [08:29:19] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [08:29:20] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00002_4352.AVS]
[08:29:20] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

This has never occurred before and I'm not sure how to get around it. Any ideas?
Thanks!!

P.S. I'm trying to redo the movie selecting "Movie Only" this time instead of entire disk"I also told it to only save English subtitles instead of all languages this time. Not sure if these options will be more successful or not?

Nope, here is the new results:

[08:53:06] Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID_00001
- Input BD size: 19.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:21:35.932]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:53:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:53:09] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 1)
- [08:53:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [09:29:12] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [09:29:12] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [09:29:12] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [09:29:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00002_4352.AVS]
[09:29:13] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

HELP!?!?

I don't use the UAC, I disable it.

As for the audio error, I don't compress the HD audio. Whenever I tried to convert LPCM audio(as well as another type) I would receive same/similar error. So I just keep the HD audio now. Since X264 is so intelligent about compression, one can highly compress video, usually without noticing the difference. The only time I compress, is if I choose DVD output(Naturally). Or of course BD-5 or BD-9, or MKV/MP4.

Let's see the Inspect log???

Capsbackup
30th December 2012, 02:03
- Input BD size: 19.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:21:35.932]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
Since no reencoding is necessary, why not just use the original as is? ;)