BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

No problems here with the new 38.0.9 build . Three Blu's copied thus far with it (movie only) with DTS-DTS/HD everything went perfect and Blu's looks great . Seems the new build de-codes faster too (maybe my imagination ?) , but my files sizes are all about the same and the decoding just seemed to blaze through these last few movies (with no firmware update on my burner) .

Anyway ....Cudo's to the new build !Thanks. It's nice to get some good feedback. The next release should include "Menus and Movie Only" (blanking) mode and the ability to blank sections selectively.
:)

[omegaman7]

Incredible Jdobbs! Expect another donation soon then. I've been wondering all day what I'm gonna do with "Drag me to Hell". They didn't employ seamless branching, so there are 2 very large titles on the disc. I'd prefer blank the theatrical title ;)

[jdobbs]

Incredible Jdobbs! Expect another donation soon then. I've been wondering all day what I'm gonna do with "Drag me to Hell". They didn't employ seamless branching, so there are 2 very large titles on the disc. I'd prefer blank the theatrical title ;) So they have two complete independent titles? That's a pretty poor way to author it... but I guess they figure they have way more space on a BD-50 than is ever needed.

[omegaman7]

THat's exactly what I thought. Pretty poor. Perhaps lazy. Don't know about the coding involved. It is currently an obstacle for people who like to backup too. Perhaps that's why. Yes, they are independent. That's confirmed. I looked right at the files. They should have used seamless branching, and added some more extra features. I love gag reels!

[setarip_old]

A review from "Blu-ray.com" seems to indicate that MOST scenes are different in the two versions (as opposed to many other two-version videos with some additions only to a few scenes), making it necessaryto have two completely separate versions on the disc:

Please note the Blu-ray edition includes both the theatrical and unrated versions of the film. While both cuts are essentially the same length, the unrated version injects more blood into the proceedings and enhances some of the film's grosser gags. Alas, the results are a mixed bag. Some scenes have been improved (Christine's nosebleed and her fight with the old woman among them) but others are worse for the wear (a falling anvil produces a more cartoonish death, an animal sacrifice nets some over-the-top spatter, and a few CG effects are less effective).

[omegaman7]

Cheers! That explains it well ;)

[Sharc]

...the next release should include "menus and movie only" (blanking) mode and the ability to blank sections selectively.
:)
:) :)

[dfsooner]

The next release should include "Menus and Movie Only" (blanking) mode and the ability to blank sections selectively.
:)

Wow. I'm anxious to see that.

I've been using Clown_BD BD Copier to do that but it has some bugs which jump up and bite me occasionally.

[dfsooner]

So they have two complete independent titles? That's a pretty poor way to author it... but I guess they figure they have way more space on a BD-50 than is ever needed.

Both unrated and theatrical versions appear on many titles. That's why they segment the movies - so they can use segments in both, insert additional segments or leave out segments in the various versions without duplicating the footage.

[jdobbs]

Both unrated and theatrical versions appear on many titles. That's why they segment the movies - so they can use segments in both, insert additional segments or leave out segments in the various versions without duplicating the footage. You missed the point.

What is unusual is that in the example he gave they aren't segmented -- there are two complete movies with no shared segments.

[Rich86]

I've run into a problem with the "The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest" blu-ray when converting it to DVD-5. I am including both the swedish and english audio tracks, as well as the english subtitles in the conversion. The resulting DVD-5 has both audio tracks and the subtitles, but displays the subtitles out of sync (ahead of the audio). This occurs regardless of which audio track I am playing back, or where I play it back (computer or standalone players). The audio and video are in sync just fine.
There is something a little unusual in the source blu-ray that maybe contributes to this issue (this is the 3rd title in my Dragon Tattoo Trilogy blu-ray boxset). The opening scene is of the "Music Box" logo - with no audio track at all (not just silent - there is no audio track running or indicated). The audio track kicks in shortly after that first logo, when the "Yellow Bird" logo starts. That amount of time with no audio track active is approximately the amount of out of sync I am seeing in the output. Is it possible the subtitle synchronization drives off the start of the video and the audio track actually initializing and starting after the first brief logo scene throws it off?
Note that the defaults I selected (swedish audio + english subs) did not work either, in case that is relevant (maybe another result of no audio track or subtitles existing for the first scene?).
The original disc plays fine. The ripped blu-ray title plays fine off the hard disc. I am running the latest 38.09 version under Win7/64 on a quad core tower.
Maybe I did something wrong, so any advice is appreciated.

[23:19:40] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: TGW_KICKED_THE_HORNETS_NEST
- Input BD size: 18.71 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:27:10.947]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
- Audio [1] set to default.
[23:19:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:19:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [23:24:02] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 3)
- [23:24:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 240 frames
- Bitrate: 200 Kbs
- [23:24:02] Reencoding: VID_00001
- [23:24:14] Video Encode complete
- [23:24:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:28:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:28:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [23:32:25] Reencoding: VID_00000 (2 of 3)
- [23:32:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 211,394 frames
- Bitrate: 3,207 Kbs
- [23:32:25] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [02:55:37] Video Encode complete
- [02:55:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:55:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [02:55:37] Reencoding: VID_00017 (3 of 3)
- [02:55:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 97 frames
- Bitrate: 200 Kbs
- [02:55:37] Reencoding: VID_00017
- [02:55:41] Video Encode complete
- [02:55:41] Multiplexing M2TS
[02:55:41]PHASE ONE complete
[02:55:41]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:55:41] Rebuilding stream 00001 [1 of 3]
- [02:55:41] Rebuilding stream 00000 [2 of 3]
- [02:55:41] Rebuilding stream 00017 [3 of 3]
- [02:55:41] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [02:56:33] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [02:57:17] Starting MPLEX.
- [03:00:49] Multiplexing 1 subtitles into stream.
- [03:03:48] Building DVD File Structure.
[03:06:54] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

[jdobbs]

@Rich86

Does the audio appear to be in-sync?

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Does the audio appear to be in-sync?

Yes - the audio and video appear perfectly in sync . . . only the subtitles display is off.
The opening scene with no audio track is 10 seconds long. The subtitles display 10 seconds ahead of the proper audio/video scene afterwards.

[setarip_old]

@Rich86

Hi!

For kicks and giggles, try the following:

Regarding your specific problem, try loading ONLY the main movie .M2TS file into tsMuxeR and save as a "new" BluRay "package" - and then use it with BD Rebuilder.

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Hi!

For kicks and giggles, try the following:

Regarding your specific problem, try loading ONLY the main movie .M2TS file into tsMuxeR and save as a "new" BluRay "package" - and then use it with BD Rebuilder.

I confess to being one of those folks who relies on jdobbs program package for most everything. I know how to install, setup and select options within BD-RB, but I do not believe I know how to do what you are suggesting.

[Capsbackup]

@Rich86;
You might try looking at the other available playlists listed within the alternate movie choices, and if there is one that is close to the length of the one BD-RB defaults to, try selecting that one and run a new backup. :)

[Rich86]

@Rich86;
You might try looking at the other available playlists listed within the alternate movie choices, and if there is one that is close to the length of the one BD-RB defaults to, try selecting that one and run a new backup. :)

Yes - thanks for the suggestion - I generally do that to make sure I have the correct one, and this title only has 1 playlist listed.

And some additional info . . .
the very first file listed in the log above (Vid_00001) IS the file with that opening "Music Box" logo and when viewing it within BDRB indicates no audio nor subtitles in the file, so it is consistent. Unfortunately, when I try to preview the next file (Vid_00000) where the movie starts with the "Yellow Bird" logo MPC greys out audio and subtitles in the menu and simply uses the first audio file with no subtitles regardless of what I specify as defaults, so I cannot see if the subtitles are correctly sync'ed there.

[Capsbackup]

The work-around for now, until jdobbs can correct BD-RB, is to follow setarip_old's suggestion. Download tsMuxeR, http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR, load the 00000.m2ts file from the movie into tsMuxer, select Bluray for the output, select/deselect any audio/subtitles you desire and save to a new folder. Then direct BD-RB to perform a backup using this new Bluray folder you just created.

[Rich86]

The work-around for now, until jdobbs can correct BD-RB, is to follow setarip_old's suggestion. Download tsMuxeR, http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR, load the 00000.m2ts file from the movie into tsMuxer, select Bluray for the output, select/deselect any audio/subtitles you desire and save to a new folder. Then direct BD-RB to perform a backup using this new Bluray folder you just created.

Thanks for the steps and info - I will try that and see if it corrects the problem. Maybe the results of that test will assist jdobbs also.

Update: I ran tsMuxer as suggested creating a BD strcture with only the 00000 file - and ran that through BDRB - and the resulting DVD-5 has both audio tracks + subtitles and everything appears to be in sync. So apparently that first file #0001 in the playlist is what is causing the problem with BDRB syncing subtitles with the audio/video. Of course this new output DVD-5 isn't free of issues (original chapters gone, still doesn't set up the defaults I indicate in BDRB, and the dvd does not seem to end properly - but those could be the product of shoving a modified BD structure through BDRB).
I'm hoping this exercise provides jdobbs worthwhile info in analyzing and fixing the problem. All 3 of the Dragon Tattoo blu-rays include that opening logo scene with no audio track, so I expect the same problem will exist in all 3.
Thanks for the help.

[jdobbs]

opening the original in bdrb shows the secondard as 480p vc1
opening the reencode shows it as 480i avc

opening the m2ts re-encode in tsmuxer shows them as 480i 23.976


heres the cl of the first secondary vid.

all i changed in this encode was the speed

"E:\BD_Rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "E:\TEMP\BLU_RE-ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00009_2.AVS"
--preset ultrafast --cabac --bframes 3 --b-pyramid none --qpmin=0 --slow-firstpass --crf 25
--level 3.2 --sar 10:11 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 12000 --keyint 24
--min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 3500 --tff --threads auto
--thread-input --stats "C:\TEMP\BLU_RE-ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00009_2.AVS.264.stats"
--pass 1 --output "E:\TEMP\BLU_RE-ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00009_2.AVS.264"
Just wanted to give you an update. I did BOURNE SUPREMACY and for me the secondary channels encoded correctly (23.976, progressive). Are you sure your source isn't corrupted or has been modified by any preprocessing?

[setarip_old]

@Rich86

Glad to hear that my suggestion worked for you (as it had previously regarding this series of movies).

Just to let you know that, also via tsMuxer (with a little research on your part), you can use the original chapter settings, or default settings of every 5 minutes, or ANY chapter times that you'd care to set ;>}

[k-c-ksum]

Just wanted to give you an update. I did BOURNE SUPREMACY and for me the secondary channels encoded correctly (23.976, progressive). Are you sure your source isn't corrupted or has been modified by any preprocessing?

not that im aware of, same thing happened on The Bourne Identity, i ripped the disc, selecting anydvd to leave everything in place apart from bdlive.

opening the source shows is as 23.976 Progressive on the original rip, displayed in bdrb and tsmuxer but then interlaced on the re-encode :(

i'll try a movie from an alternate studio and see what happens there.

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Glad to hear that my suggestion worked for you (as it had previously regarding this series of movies).

Just to let you know that, also via tsMuxer (with a little research on your part), you can use the original chapter settings, or default settings of every 5 minutes, or ANY chapter times that you'd care to set ;>}

Well, I'm not sure what kind of research you are suggesting, but I can't see any options to retain the original chapter settings in tsmuxer. I see the every 5 minutes and custom and no chapters options only.

[jdobbs]

Well, I'm not sure what kind of research you are suggesting, but I can't see any options to retain the original chapter settings in tsmuxer. I see the every 5 minutes and custom and no chapters options only. I think it gathers the chapters is you open the playlist (MPLS) rather than the M2TS.

[JJB]

Well, I'm not sure what kind of research you are suggesting, but I can't see any options to retain the original chapter settings in tsmuxer. I see the every 5 minutes and custom and no chapters options only.



Download tsMuxeR.
Find the m2ts that hold main movie - could be 00001.m2ts - and find the according playlist - would be 00001.mpls.
Add only the playlist in tsMuxeR and the according m2ts will be imported.
Go to the Blu-ray tab at top of tsMuxeR and select "Custom chapters list".

Your done.

Edit: Sorry, got in late....

[Rich86]

I think it gathers the chapters is you open the playlist (MPLS) rather than the M2TS.

Yes - I can see where it loads the "custom chapters" box with the original chapters when you choose the playlist (00001).
However - it also includes the opening 10 second scene (00001.m2ts) which confounds BDRB afterwards when you select the playlist. The whole purpose of this exercise is to eliminate the first scene since it seems to cause BDRB to push subtitles out of sync for dvd-5 output. It seems to me that this will result in a blu-ray structure that looks exactly like what BDRB sees as the main movie if it just points to the original directory.
I tried to upload an image of the tsmux screen, but the website has decided it is not a valid image file for some reason (155kb, .jpg).

[jdobbs]

Yes - I can see where it loads the "custom chapters" box with the original chapters when you choose the playlist (00001).
However - it also includes the opening 10 second scene (00001.m2ts) which confounds BDRB afterwards when you select the playlist. The whole purpose of this exercise is to eliminate the first scene since it seems to cause BDRB to push subtitles out of sync for dvd-5 output. It seems to me that this will result in a blu-ray structure that looks exactly like what BDRB sees as the main movie if it just points to the original directory.
I tried to upload an image of the tsmux screen, but the website has decided it is not a valid image file for some reason (155kb, .jpg). Hmm... good point.

[Rich86]

Hmm... good point.

Have you had a chance to decide if the subtitle out of sync problem with DVD-5 output is fixable in BDRB? I realize it is probably an issue only with a small number of titles - BDRB has certainly been very reliable for me with DVD-5 output until the Dragon Tattoo BDs.

[setarip_old]

@Rich86 Yes - I can see where it loads the "custom chapters" box with the original chapters when you choose the playlist (00001).
However - it also includes the opening 10 second scene (00001.m2ts) The "new" movie-only Blu-ray that you created should only contain "00000.M2TS" and, likewise, "00000.mpls" and, if I remember correctly, should no longer include the problematic opening 10-11 second scene...

Here's a little "magic" regarding tsMuxer and chapters:

If you first load the original .MPLS into tsMuxer and then "Remove" it, you'll note that the original chapters remain listed.

If you then load the NEW .M2TS into tsMuxer, you'll see that the ORIGINAL chapters are still there - Then resave as Blu-ray ;>}

Note: - I haven't done this in quite a while, so, if loading the new M2TS DOESN'T retain the original chapters, start fresh and perform the same procedure starting with opening tsMuxer anew, load the original .MPLS, etc. ...

[Rich86]

@Rich86 The "new" movie-only Blu-ray that you created should only contain "00000.M2TS" and, likewise, "00000.mpls" and, if I remember correctly, should no longer include the problematic opening 10-11 second scene...

Here's a little "magic" regarding tsMuxer and chapters:

If you first load the original .MPLS into tsMuxer and then "Remove" it, you'll note that the original chapters remain listed.

If you then load the NEW .M2TS into tsMuxer, you'll see that the ORIGINAL chapters are still there - Then resave as Blu-ray ;>}

Note: - I haven't done this in quite a while, so, if loading the new M2TS DOESN'T retain the original chapters, start fresh and perform the same procedure starting with opening tsMuxer anew, load the original .MPLS, etc. ...



Very neat little trick.
Now another question:
Since these chapter designations from the playlist were related to the playlist which included that opening 10 second scene which we've now effectively deleted, should I assume all these chapter points being applied to only the 2nd video file from the playlist are 10 seconds off and try to adjust them down by 10 seconds each before I run tsmuxer again?

[jdobbs]

Have you had a chance to decide if the subtitle out of sync problem with DVD-5 output is fixable in BDRB? I realize it is probably an issue only with a small number of titles - BDRB has certainly been very reliable for me with DVD-5 output until the Dragon Tattoo BDs. It's easy enough to fix -- but unfortunately by doing so I'd probably cause other problems.

It's not unusual for audio to be delayed in the way you've described, and BD-RB corrects for it. But in most cases I don't believe the subtitles aren't delayed as well. In those cases adjusting the subtitles would make it off in the other direction.

I'll find some examples and see if I can spot where the behaviour is consistent.

[Rich86]

It's easy enough to fix -- but unfortunately by doing so I'd probably cause other problems.

It's not unusual for audio to be delayed in the way you've described, and BD-RB corrects for it. But in most cases I don't believe the subtitles aren't delayed as well. In those cases adjusting the subtitles would make it off in the other direction.

I'll find some examples and see if I can spot where the behaviour is consistent.

It almost seems like BDRB is initiating the subtitles timing based upon the overall playlist timing - rather than the audio from the specific video file the subtitles came from.

[jdobbs]

It almost seems like BDRB is initiating the subtitles timing based upon the overall playlist timing - rather than the audio from the specific video file the subtitles came from. The display times of the subtitles come from the PGS (subtitle file) itself. It actually has nothing to do with the audio presentation times. They are set by the original authoring.

[setarip_old]

@Rich86 Since these chapter designations from the playlist were related to the playlist which included that opening 10 second scene which we've now effectively deleted, should I assume all these chapter points being applied to only the 2nd video file from the playlist are 10 seconds off and try to adjust them down by 10 seconds each before I run tsmuxer again?
FIRST, try it just as I suggested...

[xterminater]

jdobbs, how are u doing? i have a question in one of my bluray. It has a 480p avc video in it along with a 1080p video, and it's a java bluray, how would I go and "blank" out the unneeded 480p to save bitrate. I'm guessing it's because it is a bluray+dvd+digital copy all in one disc. I read in the thread and I believe you are implementing a feature where you can do menu+main movie or the ability to blank out unecessary track now?

[Rich86]

The display times of the subtitles come from the PGS (subtitle file) itself. It actually has nothing to do with the audio presentation times. They are set by the original authoring.

I'm learning much here today . . so please bear with me . .

Is the PGS associated with a playlist - or a video file?
It would appear the PGS in question is associated with the main movie video file (0000.m2ts), but somehow being applied against the timing associated with the overall playlist (00001.mpls) which includes the 10 second long 00001.m2ts file ahead of the main movie? I was originally focused on the fact that that first 10 second file being played had no audio track as the source of the problem - but maybe the very existence at all of that 10 second .m2ts is the problem if the PGS is being timed to the overall playlist instead of specifically the main movie file it belongs to? Since the blu-ray plays the subtitles correctly, I'm assuming it is not an authoring error.
Just thinking it through out loud . . .

[Rich86]

@Rich86
FIRST, try it just as I suggested...

too late - I had decided that the 10 second adjustment on every chapter would be necessary and made them and reran tsmuxer. The resulting blu-ray formatted video looks correct - the chapters appear to be in the correct place when compared to the original blu-ray title. It would appear that the original chapter stops are established in relation to the overall playlist timing, but the subtitles (pgs) relate to the specific main movie video file.
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Update: I ran a test of this title to BD output also - simply selected the ripped BD directory as input and chose BD output for main movie title - that seems to work just fine (both audio tracks are there, subtitles are there, everything is in sync, defaults selected (swedish audio with english subtitles) showed up in the output files and work.
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Summary (the 3rd Dragon Tattoo BD): The subtitles sync problem appears to be restricted to DVD output from this BD source. The movie playlist (00001.mpls) includes 3 videos (m2ts files) including:
1. 00001.m2ts - an opening "Music Box" logo scene with no audio or subtitles lasting about 10 seconds
2. 00000.m2ts - the main movie beginning with the "Yellow Bird" logo including both swedish and english audio tracks and english subtitles
3. 00017.msts - a very brief closing logo scene
When BDRB processes this to DVD-5 output, the subtitles in the main movie are out of sync by approximately 10 seconds too early, which is the length of the opening 00001.m2ts video. It appears the subtitles pgs is being processed as though the entries relate to the total playlist in BDRB much like chapters, whereas the pgs entries appear to be tied to the 00000.m2ts video itself (resulting in subtitles appearing 10 seconds too early in this case).
Any audio or subtitles default selections made in BDRB are not honored either (I do not know if that is unique to this title being processed to DVD-5, but I can say default selections seem to work when processing to BD output).
I hope these notes are somewhat helpful to jdobbs when investigating the problem further.

[jdobbs]

Interesting... and helpful. That, of course, means that there has to be a timing glitch somewhere in the conversion.

[a.k.a.]

Hello,

Getting an all clear from Inspect.exe, but when I hit the Phase 2 / Rebuild process, MPLEX fails.

Here's the log:
[02:21:49] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: GREAT_MIGRATIONS_DISC_1
- Input BD size: 14.85 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:50:00.931]
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-9, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[02:21:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[02:21:53]PHASE ONE complete
[02:21:53]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:21:53] Rebuilding stream 00022 [1 of 1]
- [02:21:53] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [02:25:40] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [02:26:22] Starting MPLEX.
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MPLEX)
[02:30:56] - Failed to REBUILD

What other info do you want from me?

And in the meantime, is there another program I can run the Phase 1 Encoding / Temp folder output through to get a DVD9 burn at this point? Earlier today, I also tried a DVD9 conversion via multiAVCHD but am also throwing errors.

Thanks!

[a.k.a.]

The other thing to note is that BDRB has extracted only 1 of 3 episodes from the BD ISO listed above. (The last of 3 episodes.)

[jdobbs]

The other thing to note is that BDRB has extracted only 1 of 3 episodes from the BD ISO listed above. (The last of 3 episodes.)When you are doing a movie-only backup you are selecting a single playlist as "the movie" -- in order to do multiple episodes you have to select other playlists from the menu.

[sfcav]

I searched for a simple answer but didn't find one.

BD-RB works flawlessly with any BD or mkv file I throw at it, but I'm consistently having an audio sync issue with most of my captured 1080i mpg files. These files are 1080i ac3 mpg and they play fine on their own. However, I like converting them to 1080p and shrinking them to fit on DL or SL disks, which is where BD-RB comes in. I've tried numerous versions up to 3808, but still get what appears to be a several second difference between the audio and video. Using Handbreak, the files turn out fine but it takes several times longer than BD-RB.

Inspect reports the following:
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14 Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok


My settings are:

- Use Deinterlacer
- Do not reencode AC3

One post here indicated that certain Haali splitters may be an issue (most current?).

Thoughts or suggestions welcome :)

sfcav

[Rich86]

too late - I had decided that the 10 second adjustment on every chapter would be necessary and made them and reran tsmuxer. The resulting blu-ray formatted video looks correct - the chapters appear to be in the correct place when compared to the original blu-ray title. It would appear that the original chapter stops are established in relation to the overall playlist timing, but the subtitles (pgs) relate to the specific main movie video file.
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Update: I ran a test of this title to BD output also - simply selected the ripped BD directory as input and chose BD output for main movie title - that seems to work just fine (both audio tracks are there, subtitles are there, everything is in sync, defaults selected (swedish audio with english subtitles) showed up in the output files and work.
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Summary (the 3rd Dragon Tattoo BD): The subtitles sync problem appears to be restricted to DVD output from this BD source. The movie playlist (00001.mpls) includes 3 videos (m2ts files) including:
1. 00001.m2ts - an opening "Music Box" logo scene with no audio or subtitles lasting about 10 seconds
2. 00000.m2ts - the main movie beginning with the "Yellow Bird" logo including both swedish and english audio tracks and english subtitles
3. 00017.msts - a very brief closing logo scene
When BDRB processes this to DVD-5 output, the subtitles in the main movie are out of sync by approximately 10 seconds too early, which is the length of the opening 00001.m2ts video. It appears the subtitles pgs is being processed as though the entries relate to the total playlist in BDRB much like chapters, whereas the pgs entries appear to be tied to the 00000.m2ts video itself (resulting in subtitles appearing 10 seconds too early in this case).
Any audio or subtitles default selections made in BDRB are not honored either (I do not know if that is unique to this title being processed to DVD-5, but I can say default selections seem to work when processing to BD output).
I hope these notes are somewhat helpful to jdobbs when investigating the problem further.

more info (ie. another problem) . . .

The 4th disc in the Dragon Trilogy BD Set set has documentaries and extras. The primary playlist runs those 5 documentaries in sequence (a "play all" selection in the BDs main menu). The first title in that playlist has english audio and no subtitles. The following 4 titles have swedish audio and english subtitles. I chose "movie only" output to DVD-5 in BDRB. It sees and defaults to the primary playlist described above. This is fine - except BDRB sees the 1 audio track and no subtitles in the first file, and seems to assume the rest are the same, as the subtitles in the following video files are not indicated as being available nor offered or converted to dvd anywhere.
If I select "Full Backup" in BDRB, the program sees and offers all the subtitles in the titles that have subtitles.

Update:
Just for info: I ran BDRB off a different playlist which only plays the first title (the "making of" documentary with english audio and no subtitles) to create dvd files of that. Then I used tsmuxer again to combine the remaining 4 video files that have swedish audio and english subtitles into a BD formatted directory - which I then ran through BDRB to convert to dvd files. That gave me 2 dvd structures on hard disk. I ran DVDShrink to combine those into 1 DVD. A lot of steps - but when done, at least I had all the videos and all the proper audio tracks and subtitles in the proper playback sequence.

[Ch3vr0n]

@sfcav: - HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14 Isn't recommended version

There's your problem. Switch to the right one

[sfcav]

@sfcav: - HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14 Isn't recommended version

There's your problem. Switch to the right one

Thanks Ch3vrOn - For clairfication, the inspect tool simply says that the HAALI version it finds isn't the recommended version (I added in the info), but it IS the version linked on the first page of this forum (just checked again), which seems odd. Could there be an error in the link??

[Ch3vr0n]

Then that inspect.exe bug jdobbs has been working on still isnt fixed.

[RobertM]

I thought that bug wasn't finally fixed until the LATEST version of BDRB (v0.38.0.9). sfcav is running v0.38.0.8, so perhaps he should try the current version (and the bundled current version of inspect.exe) and then maybe that HAALI error will disappear.

[sfcav]

Here's an update - I reinstalled HAALI media splitter and now Inspect indicates that my setup is Ok:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

I therefore tried BD-RB and, as before, the audio was not in sync (sound ahead of video by up to several seconds).

Per RobertM's suggestion, I set up v03809, and Inspect reports the following:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.9, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Will try again with v03809 and let you know what happens.

Thanks for the suggestions : )

[Capsbackup]

BD-RB works flawlessly with any BD or mkv file I throw at it, but I'm consistently having an audio sync issue with most of my captured 1080i mpg files. These files are 1080i ac3 mpg and they play fine on their own.

The most likely reason, which is not a BD-RB bug, is the program you use to edit your capture, remove commercials, etc... The only reliable program I have found, that leaves a 0ms audio delay and treats the time stamps of this edit properly is VideoRedo. Others are not so reliable in this regard. :(
So though your source may play in sync, the reencode may not! ;)

[sfcav]

Thanks Capsbackup

I too have found VideoRedo to be the best editor, and it is what I use to remove leading and trailing non-movie info from the mpg files. Using MediaInfo or tsMuxeR, there is no audio delay listed in either the original or the BD-RB files.

BD-RB 3809 just finished, and it too has the audio out of sync.

I'm befuddled : (