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sidneysides
19th October 2009, 18:21
Hi,
I have been experimenting with BDRebuilder with a Jamiroquai concert full backup to 25GB
The orginal is a shade over 40GB.
Whichever setting I use (high speed 25GB, default 2-pass etc) the smoothness of the original is not there. It is originally a 1080i according to Rebuilder but the resolution is 1920x1080 - isn't that 1080p?
ANyway, on playback it seems a lot less fluid. The movements are a little jerky and blurry whereas the original was smooth. Could it be something to do with interlacing / deinterlacing? Have I got it right - should it be 1080p at that resolution?? (I'm new to this so don't flame me!)

Screenshots attached...


After following the setup instructions I can't get WMV11 to install on Windows 7 - don't know whether this may affect it or not.
My other backups seem fine - just this one that's frustrating me.

An aside issue - anyone using High SPeed mode when doing full backups to BD25? Just wondered if you noticed any difference.

Cheers in advance

hudsucker
19th October 2009, 19:33
- [18:17:06] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[18:17:48]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

What happen with this?

Last encodes have this problem.

Thanks

Same problem for me with v.0.30.04:

- [22:33:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[04:26:43]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

Setting: Full backup mode with highest encoder quality.

kanerulz69
19th October 2009, 20:07
You can -- but if it actually is saturation -- it won't change anything.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about from your INF file:

For 00127.M2TS, BD-RB passed a bitrate to X264 that should result in a final (muxed) filesize of over 1187MB:

M2TS_TARGET=1187828657

But, looking at the output, you see that the actual size came out to be a little under 300MB.

NSIZE=291373056

The only other possibility I can think of is if you stopped the job at some point -- changed the audio settings (removing something), and then resumed, and I'm not even positive that would do it. If it were a miscalculation of some type, it would show in pretty much every encode -- so I don't think that's the issue.

I assume you weren't using one-pass encoding? Also, I can't really tell if this was movie-only because you didn't post the LOG.

[13:25:28] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: THE_LOST_BOYS
- Input BD size: 24.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:05:52.604]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:25:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:25:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
- [13:25:39] Reencoding: VID_00105 (1 of 16)
- [13:25:39] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:25:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [13:26:04] Reencoding: VID_00081 (2 of 16)
- [13:32:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [13:33:11] Reencoding: VID_00095 (3 of 16)
- [13:34:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
- [13:34:48] Reencoding: VID_00103 (4 of 16)
- [13:34:48] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:35:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [13:35:19] Reencoding: VID_00100 (5 of 16)
- [13:35:19] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:35:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [13:35:51] Reencoding: VID_00094 (6 of 16)
- [13:38:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00097]
- [13:38:29] Reencoding: VID_00097 (7 of 16)
- [13:38:29] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:38:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
- [13:39:02] Reencoding: VID_00093 (8 of 16)
- [13:41:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [13:42:08] Reencoding: VID_00092 (9 of 16)
- [13:46:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
- [13:46:50] Reencoding: VID_00096 (10 of 16)
- [13:46:50] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:47:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00099]
- [13:48:47] Reencoding: VID_00099 (11 of 16)
- [13:48:47] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:49:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
- [13:51:22] Reencoding: VID_00090 (12 of 16)
- [13:51:22] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:53:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00127]
- [13:54:29] Reencoding: VID_00127 (13 of 16)
- [14:02:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00126]
- [14:03:35] Reencoding: VID_00126 (14 of 16)
- [14:11:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00125]
- [14:12:45] Reencoding: VID_00125 (15 of 16)
- [14:20:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00056]
- [14:38:50] Reencoding: VID_00056 (16 of 16)
- [14:38:50] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[15:02:22]PHASE ONE complete
[15:02:22]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:02:22] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:03:43] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[15:03:45]JOB: THE_LOST_BOYS finished.

setarip_old
19th October 2009, 20:40
@klas, @hudsucker

Hi!

It might prove helpful if you stated the title and region of your original BluRay discs that have resulted in the problems you've indicated...

Capsbackup
20th October 2009, 02:03
@kanerulz69;
When you read the log file, BD-RB is not reencoding any files, just stripping audio/subs and rebuilding. No quality change is taking place. :)
EDIT:
Only some files are reencoded. :p

kanerulz69
20th October 2009, 02:03
The only other possibility I can think of is if you stopped the job at some point -- changed the audio settings (removing something), and then resumed, and I'm not even positive that would do it. If it were a miscalculation of some type, it would show in pretty much every encode -- so I don't think that's the issue.

I assume you weren't using one-pass encoding? Also, I can't really tell if this was movie-only because you didn't post the LOG.

the only way i was able to get it up to 22gb was going to the folder where the original lost boys rip folder was and copied the STREAM files that were encoded one at the time and pasted them over the ones BD-RB did and did that til it got to 22GB but never had to do that with any other movies.

mikeonecl
20th October 2009, 03:31
i have experienced a problem with encoding audio, i convert to dvd-9 and i don't select 448 kbs for AC3-encoding, also i dont select the option dot not reencode AC3. Before version 30.01 not problem, but from this version i cannot play on standalone, the sound on my receiver is identified like Dolby Digital but the sound is bad, have up and down volume.

is necesary to select 448 kbs on dvd-9???

what is the best setting for dvd-9???

thanks in advance, and i sorry for my english

best regard from Chile.

jdobbs
20th October 2009, 05:51
i have experienced a problem with encoding audio, i convert to dvd-9 and i don't select 448 kbs for AC3-encoding, also i dont select the option dot not reencode AC3. Before version 30.01 not problem, but from this version i cannot play on standalone, the sound on my receiver is identified like Dolby Digital but the sound is bad, have up and down volume.

is necesary to select 448 kbs on dvd-9???

what is the best setting for dvd-9???

thanks in advance, and i sorry for my english

best regard from Chile.You can choose 448Kbs or use 640Kbs (for 5.1)

jdobbs
20th October 2009, 05:52
@kanerulz69;
When you read the log file, BD-RB is not reencoding any files, just stripping audio/subs and rebuilding. No quality change is taking place. :)
EDIT:
Only some files are reencoded. :p Which, of course, explains the undersize... when you take out the audio that was selected for removal, it is already small enough to fit. BD-RB isn't going to reencode the original video just to make it larger -- that's crazy talk.

Of course if you wanted to do something ridiculously silly like that you could set "FORCE_ENCODE=1" in the INI.

GaPony
20th October 2009, 07:56
I'm thoroughly confused why some people are more concerned about size on the disc rather than Video Quality...

Fullasoul
20th October 2009, 13:00
Hey all,

Recently I've had a couple of rebuilds yield some sync problems. Each time, it was with extras (featurettes, trailers, etc.) and not the main feature. Is there a known issue that would yield such a problem? Or, does anyone have any suggestions as to what might cause such a thing?

jdobbs
20th October 2009, 15:36
Hey all,

Recently I've had a couple of rebuilds yield some sync problems. Each time, it was with extras (featurettes, trailers, etc.) and not the main feature. Is there a known issue that would yield such a problem? Or, does anyone have any suggestions as to what might cause such a thing? I've not seen any audio issue on any sources I've done. Can someone give me an example of a disc (Region A) and settings (the INI file) that result in audio sync issues?

jdobbs
20th October 2009, 15:39
Hi,
I have been experimenting with BDRebuilder with a Jamiroquai concert full backup to 25GB
The orginal is a shade over 40GB.
Whichever setting I use (high speed 25GB, default 2-pass etc) the smoothness of the original is not there. It is originally a 1080i according to Rebuilder but the resolution is 1920x1080 - isn't that 1080p?
ANyway, on playback it seems a lot less fluid. The movements are a little jerky and blurry whereas the original was smooth. Could it be something to do with interlacing / deinterlacing? Have I got it right - should it be 1080p at that resolution?? (I'm new to this so don't flame me!)

Screenshots attached...


After following the setup instructions I can't get WMV11 to install on Windows 7 - don't know whether this may affect it or not.
My other backups seem fine - just this one that's frustrating me.

An aside issue - anyone using High SPeed mode when doing full backups to BD25? Just wondered if you noticed any difference.

Cheers in advance No. It shouldn't be 1080p. HD in 1080 comes in two flavors, 1920x1080i and 1920x1080p.

Fullasoul
20th October 2009, 16:40
I've not seen any audio issue on any sources I've done. Can someone give me an example of a disc (Region A) and settings (the INI file) that result in audio sync issues?

The 2 I've seen it on thus far are My Bloody Valentine (remake) and Dead & Buried. In both cases, the features themselves were fine, but trailers/featurettes were severely out of sync (5 seconds or more)

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=7910
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450

pakkman
20th October 2009, 17:40
I have had sync problems with the main movie on "Drag Me to Hell". If I copy movie only it's in sync and if I do 1:1 (48GB) in sync, but if backup whole disc to 25 GB the movie is out of sync from the beging to the end. Any ideas?

sidneysides
20th October 2009, 17:43
No. It shouldn't be 1080p. HD in 1080 comes in two flavors, 1920x1080i and 1920x1080p.

Oh ok. Can there be another reason why it looks less fluid? Something to do with deinterlacing? even if I do a movie only encode I still get this problem. The best way I can describe it is like in the old days when you used to get the field order wrong in CCE. Its not as bad as that but similar. For example, when the drummer is drumming, there is a blurry effect in his drumsticks beating that was not there in the original. Frame rate poroblem possibly (My TV is a 1080i Samsing 32" PAL if that helps, but obviously they all do PAL / NTSC these days anyway)

meadrocks
20th October 2009, 19:09
W/ 30.04, Snow White, Region 1, When I select Play Movie I have 2 options, orig 4x3, and another option of Disney View. The Disney View puts still images in the bookend areas, kind of a nice feature, instead of having black there. However in BD-RB when I select Movie Only, Alternate Playlist shows 2 playlists. I ran both thru BD-RB, the first one was the 4x3 version, the 2nd was an extras on the disk. How can I get the Disney View version as a movie only? Thanks jdobbs.

klas
20th October 2009, 20:03
Same problem for me with v.0.30.04:

- [22:33:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[04:26:43]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

Setting: Full backup mode with highest encoder quality.

I think I solved the problem. In ffdshow video decoder settings click on
H264/AVC = ffmpeg-mt

Regards

mikeonecl
21st October 2009, 01:47
You can choose 448Kbs or use 640Kbs (for 5.1)

on version 29.05 none problem with audio, but if i am use the same configuration without change on newest version, the audio cannot play on my receiver.

what is the problem, may be a bug???

setarip_old
21st October 2009, 03:55
@meadrocks

Hi!

I'm guessing that the "bookend" static images may actually be contained in a subpic file...

cruisinxx7
21st October 2009, 08:49
My movie encode fails immediately because BD Rebuilder is trying to create a file name that is larger than Windows can handle. Maximum file name is 260 characters (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247(VS.85).aspx) and the file name in the below log is 275 characters.

-----------------------
[07:31:06] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: AVP2
- Input BD size: 23.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:49.873]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:31:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:31:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file H:\BDTEMP\WORKFILES\00010+00030+00011+00031+00012+00032+00013+00033+00014+00034+00015+00035+00016+00036+00017+00037+00018+00038+00019+00039+00020+00040+00021+00041+00022+00042+00023+00043+00024+00044+00025+00045+00026+00046+00027+00047+00028+00048+00029+00049.track_4352.dts
[07:31:09] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Race Guy
21st October 2009, 14:07
I've not seen any audio issue on any sources I've done. Can someone give me an example of a disc (Region A) and settings (the INI file) that result in audio sync issues?

Here's one jdobbs! Full backup to BD-9. Everything basically default except I use an 8150 target. For encode, I have quick xtras, 2 pass HQ on main.

Everything is great until we get to the special features. They're all good except for all 3 trailers & one old documentary. Those 4 are WAY OOS....., like 3 to 5 seconds!

The OOS Vid#'s are: 0032, 0033, 0037 & 0051

Also if I recall, in the "streams" box, there was a couple of vids with asterisks behind them. BUT, those * vids ended up fine.

[Status]
LABEL=CASABLANCA_1942_DD1.0_192K_23161MB
VERSION=v0.30.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24274306884
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24087164928
TARGET_SIZE=8598323200
REDUCTION=.349197644020881
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=16
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00038]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=21455
NSIZE=43008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3919774
NSIZE=2402304
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4149340
NSIZE=2537472
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=5820661
NSIZE=6930432
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00035]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=29935747
NSIZE=25165824
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00051]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=32523185
NSIZE=32913408
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00032]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=40465716
NSIZE=40525824
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00012]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=42699150
NSIZE=20121600
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00033]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=51315359
NSIZE=37914624
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00036]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=88534978
NSIZE=83927040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00028]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=120521795
NSIZE=84221952
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00050]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=148179053
NSIZE=133128192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00037]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=330921634
NSIZE=367921152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00030]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=616700427
NSIZE=507457536
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00029]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1483616330
NSIZE=1105201152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=1111
M2TS_TARGET=5960769724
RATE=6820
NSIZE=5839632384
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

jdobbs
21st October 2009, 14:36
Here's one jdobbs! Full backup to BD-9. Everything basically default except I use an 8150 target. For encode, I have quick xtras, 2 pass HQ on main.

Everything is great until we get to the special features. They're all good except for all 3 trailers & one old documentary. Those 4 are WAY OOS....., like 3 to 5 seconds!

The OOS Vid#'s are: 0032, 0033, 0037 & 0051

Also if I recall, in the "streams" box, there was a couple of vids with asterisks behind them. BUT, those * vids ended up fine.
Thanks. I have "CASABLANCA", so I'll do some testing. Unfortunately I've been really busy in my "real paying job" and haven't been able to spend much time on BD-RB... hopefully I'll get caught up soon. Can you post the BDREBUILDER.INI file you used to encode so I can use the same settings? It's located in the same folder as BD_REBUILDER.EXE.

jdobbs
21st October 2009, 14:43
on version 29.05 none problem with audio, but if i am use the same configuration without change on newest version, the audio cannot play on my receiver.

what is the problem, may be a bug???Hmmm... I looked at the changes for the next release (v0.30.01) and I didn't see anything that would have any effect on the playback of audio.

marius1
21st October 2009, 16:01
I told BD Rebuilder not to re-encode AC3 but it looks like it's spending at least a few min processing the file:

- [15:08:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:11:38] Multiplexing M2TS

Is that normal?

- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640

meadrocks
21st October 2009, 17:34
@meadrocks

Hi!

I'm guessing that the "bookend" static images may actually be contained in a subpic file...

So how can I get BD-RB to back it up?

Race Guy
21st October 2009, 18:53
Thanks. I have "CASABLANCA", so I'll do some testing. Unfortunately I've been really busy in my "real paying job" and haven't been able to spend much time on BD-RB... hopefully I'll get caught up soon. Can you post the BDREBUILDER.INI file you used to encode so I can use the same settings? It's located in the same folder as BD_REBUILDER.EXE.

Like I said, pretty much default, with an 8200 target, plus quick extras & 2P HQ for encode. With that 8200 target, the project ended up at "7.89 GB (8,477,086,476 bytes)".

I recently dialed my target down to 8150 'cause that 7.89GB number was about 65MB short of oversize.

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=8200
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8200
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=F:\Z\BLU RAY\
SOURCE_PATH=D:\Z\BLU RAY\CASABLANCA_1942_DD1.0_192K_23161MB

meadrocks
21st October 2009, 19:00
@meadrocks

Hi!

I'm guessing that the "bookend" static images may actually be contained in a subpic file...

The bookend images change thru the movie, different scenes have different images. It's not 1 for the entire movie. Even so, it doesn't sound like BD-RB is ready to handle a movie only w/ this 'feature' yet.

setarip_old
21st October 2009, 19:04
@meadrocksSo how can I get BD-RB to back it up?By including/selecting the applicable subpic stream (If my guess is correct) in your BD-RB setup for this disc.

By doing so, when playing your burned BD-RB BluRay disc, hopefully, you'll simply have to use your remote or keyboard to select the subtitle stream...

The bookend images change thru the movie, different scenes have different images. It's not 1 for the entire movie.Yes, so what's your point? That's the same type of behavior you see with text-like subtitles...

(My reference to "static" images meant STILL versus MOVING images...)

ron spencer
21st October 2009, 22:22
I just tried transformers 2 to bd-25 movie only....all was ok..perfect, except one spot on the movie has about 1 second of a series of macroblocks all along the bottom of the encode. Any idea why this would occur. It does not appear in the original..only in the encode. other than that, perfect.

Capsbackup
21st October 2009, 23:10
I just tried transformers 2 to bd-25 movie only....all was ok..perfect, except one spot on the movie has about 1 second of a series of macroblocks all along the bottom of the encode. Any idea why this would occur. It does not appear in the original..only in the encode. other than that, perfect.

At what time into the movie does this occur? I did not see anything on mine. Unless I blinked at that moment. :p

ron spencer
21st October 2009, 23:18
18:24 at bottom of frame...again it is not there on original rip, so occurred during encode I guess....is it possible to redo encode with same stats file? Took a long time to encode...looks perfect except for that...bizarre.

jdobbs
21st October 2009, 23:35
18:24 at bottom of frame...again it is not there on original rip, so occurred during encode I guess....is it possible to redo encode with same stats file? Took a long time to encode...looks perfect except for that...bizarre. I just bought that one today. I'll run it through and see if I get anything similar. Unfortunately, while you can reuse the stats file, you would also need the file that is used for mb-tree -- and BD-RB automatically removes that after a successful encode (because it's rather large).

ron spencer
21st October 2009, 23:42
maybe it is just at my end...who knows....really perfect except for that 1 sec part LOL...but is noticeable.

Maybe as a suggestion, if I may, can you make it so that mb-tree thing is not removed. I have a ton of drives...perhaps an option to specify where it can be stored so one could use it later?

nice program though....congrats so far!!!

one thing I did do is update x264 to 1301, but I doubt that should make a difference for 1 sec or so

jdobbs
22nd October 2009, 00:07
maybe it is just at my end...who knows....really perfect except for that 1 sec part LOL...but is noticeable.

Maybe as a suggestion, if I may, can you make it so that mb-tree thing is not removed. I have a ton of drives...perhaps an option to specify where it can be stored so one could use it later?

nice program though....congrats so far!!!

one thing I did do is update x264 to 1301, but I doubt that should make a difference for 1 sec or soI don't think it's an issue with 1301, I've been testing it since it was released also, but I guess you never know.

Dark Shikari
22nd October 2009, 00:25
I just tried transformers 2 to bd-25 movie only....all was ok..perfect, except one spot on the movie has about 1 second of a series of macroblocks all along the bottom of the encode. Any idea why this would occur.Could be a VBV issue.

jdobbs
22nd October 2009, 00:35
Could be a VBV issue.Do you mean the processing -- or the could it be the setting used?

nelly09
22nd October 2009, 00:39
what does this mean? " - Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding." everytime this shows up the end result is audio sync issues, 3 times this happened in BD9 movie only

Dark Shikari
22nd October 2009, 00:39
Do you mean the processing -- or the could it be the setting used?Neither; x264 will react strongly if it ever nears a VBV underflow.

mikeonecl
22nd October 2009, 00:56
Hmmm... I looked at the changes for the next release (v0.30.01) and I didn't see anything that would have any effect on the playback of audio.

on others threads i look problems like order of channels on encoder, can you chech this??

thanks in advance

Sharc
22nd October 2009, 00:58
My movie encode fails immediately because BD Rebuilder is trying to create a file name that is larger than Windows can handle. Maximum file name is 260 characters (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247(VS.85).aspx) and the file name in the below log is 275 characters.

-----------------------
[07:31:06] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: AVP2
- Input BD size: 23.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:49.873]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:31:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:31:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file H:\BDTEMP\WORKFILES\00010+00030+00011+00031+00012+00032+00013+00033+00014+00034+00015+00035+00016+00036+00017+00037+00018+00038+00019+00039+00020+00040+00021+00041+00022+00042+00023+00043+00024+00044+00025+00045+00026+00046+00027+00047+00028+00048+00029+00049.track_4352.dts
[07:31:09] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I guess I run into the same problem here
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1335364#post1335364
Such long concatenated strings seem to be not so unusual for discs containing extended version and theatre version.
I was lucky though that by shortening the path I could just make it fit.

jdobbs
22nd October 2009, 01:08
what does this mean? " - Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding." everytime this shows up the end result is audio sync issues, 3 times this happened in BD9 movie only It means you don't have the primary decoder(s) configured properly using FFDSHOW/HAALI (see the first post of this thread)-- so it is switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding as a backup rather than saying "encoding failed".

As for audio sync issues -- I'd need a lot more information like "what disc", "what settings", "what version", "status log", "INF file", and any other appropriate details so I can see if FFMS2 is having problems with that source.

jdobbs
22nd October 2009, 01:13
on others threads i look problems like order of channels on encoder, can you chech this??

thanks in advanceThat wouldn't have any effect on sync.

ron spencer
22nd October 2009, 01:26
Could be a VBV issue.

can this occur only in one spot though? Maybe there are others..who knows. Is there a way to see for sure? Not sure if under/overflows logged anywhere or not

Dark Shikari
22nd October 2009, 01:31
can this occur only in one spot though? Maybe there are others..who knows. Is there a way to see for sure? Not sure if under/overflows logged anywhere or notSure, it can occur only in one spot. The current algorithm is very good, so if it fails, it will likely fail rarely.

Some notes about VBV: a slow firstpass will significantly improve VBV on the second pass. 1-pass VBV is probably more accurate than 2-pass with a fast first pass. Finally, very large numbers of threads will reduce the accuracy of VBV.

Capsbackup
22nd October 2009, 01:48
18:24 at bottom of frame...again it is not there on original rip, so occurred during encode I guess....is it possible to redo encode with same stats file? Took a long time to encode...looks perfect except for that...bizarre.

Definately not there on mine! I used 2 pass mode, high quality (default).

vamsiklak
22nd October 2009, 02:11
hey fellows
Alot of good information
iam good fan of BD Rebuilder

iam just wondering
i wanna backup my bluray to dvd9
i did with my transformer2 with ac3 audio , works great
now my question is when iam want to make dvd9 from my bluray
I want to keeo HD audio(true-hd,dts-hd,dts-hd ma,lcpm,dts)
can i make a back up to dvd9 with rest HD audio codecs not only with or mutli audio formats ac3 format

Chiamos
22nd October 2009, 02:21
Definately not there on mine! I used 2 pass mode, high quality (default).

Definitely not here either! Full Movie (Everything), BD-25, Hi-Speed, One pass ABR. Completed in 2 hours and 12 minutes with an almost 2 year old Stock Pentium Quad Q6700. :) Taking the shortest path.

Amazing Quality! Best Ever!! :D

nelly09
22nd October 2009, 03:38
It means you don't have the primary decoder(s) configured properly using FFDSHOW/HAALI (see the first post of this thread)-- so it is switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding as a backup rather than saying "encoding failed".

As for audio sync issues -- I'd need a lot more information like "what disc", "what settings", "what version", "status log", "INF file", and any other appropriate details so I can see if FFMS2 is having problems with that source.

LABEL=EAST_PROM
VERSION=v0.30.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=20597569536
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=20597569536
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.402680333012276
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00110]
AUDIO=100
PGS=111000
M2TS_TARGET=8294236160
RATE=9428
NSIZE=7476252672
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Movie only to DVD-9 using 30.04, idle priority, highest quality(very slow), i didnt change any other settings, im sorry but i dont know what INF file is

GaPony
22nd October 2009, 04:40
hey fellows
Alot of good information
iam good fan of BD Rebuilder

iam just wondering
i wanna backup my bluray to dvd9
i did with my transformer2 with ac3 audio , works great
now my question is when iam want to make dvd9 from my bluray
I want to keeo HD audio(true-hd,dts-hd,dts-hd ma,lcpm,dts)
can i make a back up to dvd9 with rest HD audio codecs not only with or mutli audio formats ac3 format

You're likey to have more audio than the BD9 (DL DVD) disc can accomodate, leaving no room for the movie itself.