BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[pacificdune]

Hello!

I posted this before, but seems that everyone missed my post, or at least nobody knoew the answer... :)

I'm new here, but have been working with BD Rebuilder for several weeks. My current versions are BD Rebuilder 0.20.03, ffdshow 2744. When I first started working with the program I would get 100% utilization on 4 threads. Now I only seem to be getting 1 thread utilized and it runs painfully slow for that reason.

Does anyone have any insight on how I may be able to fix this?

Cheers!

PD

[datman]

2 films, Hunt for the red october and the jumper the audio is not synced with the picture. I have never seen this before. I tried to used the delay in tsmuxer but had no sucess.


I restarted the computer and it prompted me to do a check disk and ran through and deleted thousands of orphaned files. Everything seems to be ok. This is the 2nd time I've been through this with the chk dsk

[archie_here]

I am using Windows XP Pro.
When I use the script created by BD-RB, I am getting not able to play the avs script in MPC and i get a script error: Directshowsource does not have a named argument "framecount" (E:\WORKING\WORKFILES\VID_00141.AVS, line 2)

If I take the framecount out, I am able to play the script on MPC without problem.

Both ways BD-RB is failing to encode like below.

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1259707&postcount=1955

any insights guys? I definitely want to try BD-RB.

[smnckl]

Originally Posted by archie_here
I am using Windows XP Pro.
When I use the script created by BD-RB, I am getting not able to play the avs script in MPC and i get a script error: Directshowsource does not have a named argument "framecount" (E:\WORKING\WORKFILES\VID_00141.AVS, line 2)

If I take the framecount out, I am able to play the script on MPC without problem.

Both ways BD-RB is failing to encode like below.

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...postcount=1955


any insights guys? I definitely want to try BD-RB.

I have just tried with one of the VID_XXXXX.AVS files that I have saved from an earlier rebuild. Tested on both Windows XP SP3 and Windows Vista.

MPC-HC v1.2.908.0 handles the AVS file fine, tho without audio as expected.

1. Which version of MPC do you have installed?
2. Have you configured the filters under "View/Options..."?
3. Have you installed any external filters (which can be found on Sourceforge, on the same download page as MPC-HC itself?

I don't know why it does not work for you -- maybe you could try deleting the MPC folder and unzip again from the archive you downloaded. If it is not the v1.2.908.0 package,use Google to find that and try again.

Good luck.

[smnckl]

@archie_here


Originally Posted by archie_here

[22:13:37] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: 35990120_FEWGOODMEN
- Input BD size: 36.83 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:18:01.272]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:13:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:13:38] Reencoding: VID_00141 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[22:13:41] - Failed video encode, aborted

[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
TARGET_SIZE=4369
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
ENCODER=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\FGM\35990120_FEWGOODMEN\
WORKING_PATH=E:\WORKING\


I see that you are trying to shrink a 36.83GB movie down to a DVD5. Are you trying to keep the DTS soundtrack? If so, I believe that would not work as it would take up almost one-third of the DVD5. That might be the problem. Please provide more info about what you are trying to do.

To those who know better, please correct me if I am wrong.

@jdobbs

Could I suggest a short write-up on the switches/parameters in the BDREBUILDER.INI, appended to the first post, so that there can be no doubt as to what each switch does.

Or maybe someone else could do the write-up and have it made a sticky.

[GaPony]

Hello!

I posted this before, but seems that everyone missed my post, or at least nobody knoew the answer... :)

I'm new here, but have been working with BD Rebuilder for several weeks. My current versions are BD Rebuilder 0.20.03, ffdshow 2744. When I first started working with the program I would get 100% utilization on 4 threads. Now I only seem to be getting 1 thread utilized and it runs painfully slow for that reason.

Does anyone have any insight on how I may be able to fix this?

Cheers!

PD

I really don't know what to tell you about this... I've used every version of BD-Rebuilder since 17.11 and have changed through several versions of FFDShow, AviSynth, and Matroska Splitter... All four cores are always at 100% during encoding, and not so much during other phases of the copy process. I use a Q9650 with 8gb RAM...for what its worth.

I run at normal priority, as opposed to Idle priority, but I doubt that makes much difference unless maybe there would be a higher priority task running at the same time.

You might take a look at all the processes and services that you have running to see what might be pulling priority from BD-Rebuilder and its components.

[jdobbs]

any insights guys? I definitely want to try BD-RB.
You are using an old verion of AVISYNTH. From the CHANGES.TXT file:

January 20th, 2009 - v0.18.2
- PLEASE NOTE: Starting with this version, BD Rebuilder
REQUIRES AVISYNTH v2.57 or above. If you do not have it
installed, please download it from:
http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_257.exe
and install it. BD-RB will not work with older
versions of AVISYNTH. It's also listed in the first post of this thread:

2. Download and install AVISYNTH 2.57 or above. If you are a DVD-RB user, it is compatible, so no worry. It is required for BD Rebuilder to work. AVISYNTH v2.57 can be downloaded from http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_257.exe or from http://www.avisynth.org.

[jdobbs]

[Deleted, repeat]

[jdobbs]

In ffdshow video decoder configuration its the first option - H.264/AVC.

I changed it from libavcodec to ffmpeg-mt.

I then continued Kung fu Panda to the end and burned to re-writable and it plays fine in my samsung 1500.

This was a full back up as I only do full disk back up to BD25.

Kind regards.
Odd. I don't even have that as a choice. I can only choose between LIBAVCODEC and DISABLED. Maybe I need to upgrade?

[Biffa001]

just treid this and still getting the same x264.exe crash :(

Any other suggestions please as this excellent piece of s/w is just what I need!

I've updated AVISynth to the latest 2.58 version and tried again - still no joy, the same x264.exe crash.

- I've noticed in the BD_Rebuilder settings menu that ffmpeg is greyed out and only x264 is available to select - is that a problem?


- I've also noticed that when BD_Rebuilder gets to this point:

11:20:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:20:25] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,171 Kbs
- [11:20:25] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2

shouldn't Haali and FFDshow bee seen in the taskbar, as they aren't?

Any other suggestions please ? Thanks for your help, it's appreciated, hope we get to the bottom of this!

[espinha]

It happens a strange thing to me, with vista I work very weel with BD Rebuilder ( use it on 4 ou 5 to shrink to BD 25 and all work fine ).

I now format my pc and have XP64 version and when I start BDR gives this error :

[13:37:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:37:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00081]
- [13:37:45] Reencoding: VID_00081 (1 of 3)
- [13:38:18] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00110]
- [13:38:21] Reencoding: VID_00110 (2 of 3)
- [13:40:29] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00011]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[13:52:37] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

and simply stop.


please help:confused:

[Shuttle99]

I've had the same problem with X264 locking up on the same movie 3 times so last night I tried to set in ffdshow x264 to ffmpeg-mt but it was not an option so I looked for a new version of ffdshow and there was a new version so I installed it and now it has ffmpeg-mt as an option. So I set it to ffmpeg-mt and first try and it completed and no lockup on the same movie that locked up 3 times in a row. So for some reason it does work and it also seems to be faster taking about an hour less time.

[sholweger]

Audio sync question....

I've only run into problems with audio sync on movies where the main movie is spread out over multiple m2ts files. I've tried using tsmuxer first to create a new blu-ray folder with the movie only put into 1 m2ts file thinking that would help and was wrong. 2 specific movies I have tried are Hancock and My Best Friend's Girl and the audio sync difference is significant by end of movie.

Please advise....thanks!

[pacificdune]

I really don't know what to tell you about this... I've used every version of BD-Rebuilder since 17.11 and have changed through several versions of FFDShow, AviSynth, and Matroska Splitter... All four cores are always at 100% during encoding, and not so much during other phases of the copy process. I use a Q9650 with 8gb RAM...for what its worth.

I run at normal priority, as opposed to Idle priority, but I doubt that makes much difference unless maybe there would be a higher priority task running at the same time.

You might take a look at all the processes and services that you have running to see what might be pulling priority from BD-Rebuilder and its components.

Thanks for the reply...

The other processes are not consuming anything and my CPU utilization runs at 25%. I'm using a Q9450, but don't think processor or memory is making a difference. I am looking through all of the ffdshow settings and there are places where you can set the number of threads to use, but those do not seem to make a difference. I am thinking of deinstalling and then reinstalling everything.

If anyone else has any input it would be much appreciated!

PD

[jewish]

I've had the same problem with X264 locking up on the same movie 3 times so last night I tried to set in ffdshow x264 to ffmpeg-mt but it was not an option so I looked for a new version of ffdshow and there was a new version so I installed it and now it has ffmpeg-mt as an option. So I set it to ffmpeg-mt and first try and it completed and no lockup on the same movie that locked up 3 times in a row. So for some reason it does work and it also seems to be faster taking about an hour less time.

Glad it worked for you mate.

[jewish]

Odd. I don't even have that as a choice. I can only choose between LIBAVCODEC and DISABLED. Maybe I need to upgrade?

You definately need the upgrade mate.

[jewish]

Hi jdobbs and everyone else.

I still had a few films - Mr and Mrs Smith/ID4/FF4-Silver Surfer where it would fail to encode, eg;

[12:19:42] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: MRMRSSMITH_F1
- Input BD size: 31.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:26:33.493]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[12:19:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:19:43] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [12:27:15] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 20,511 Kbs
- [12:27:15] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[12:27:17] - Failed video encode, aborted

So since i had a few other codecs on my system which is Vista Ultimate i did some house cleaning.

I uninstalled Vista Codecs Pack and any others i could find. Regcleaned. Rebooted. Installed K-Lite Mega Codec Pack 470. Installed 472 update. Rebooted.

Trying Mr and Mrs Smith again and it has not failed within the first few mins as it did before. Going on 6 hours now and all going fine so far.

[12:52:00] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: MRMRSSMITH_F1
- Input BD size: 31.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:26:33.493]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[12:52:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:52:04] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [12:59:41] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 19,486 Kbs
- [12:59:41] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:52:58] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2


This encode failure has (i think) to do with the different codec packages people have on their PC`s.

Hope this helps everyone with "encode failed".

Will update when the encode has finished.

Kind regards all.

[Elesias]

the changeling plays perfecly on my bd35 with 1.3 european firmware and on ps3

I was wondering : in ffdshow video decoder configuration, in "Codecs" for VC-1, what decoder do you have ?

Mine is wmv9.

[GaPony]

shouldn't Haali and FFDshow bee seen in the taskbar, as they aren't?

FFDShow won't show up in the taskbar if you're working with VC-1 files... there's nothing for it to do if you have used "disabled" or "wmv9" for the VC-1 setting.

[Lif3styl3]

Hi,

so the next bd which won't work fine. i'am ripping one blu ray a day.
So, many reencoding procedures were working fine, but for the last few versions, no reencoding worked.

Today Reencoding of BAADER_MAINHOF_COMPLEX Results in an Error 8.

Don't know what it stands for. I have done a movie only copy, with all abailable langues and subtitles.

Any ideas ??

[archie_here]

You are using an old verion of AVISYNTH. From the CHANGES.TXT file:

January 20th, 2009 - v0.18.2
- PLEASE NOTE: Starting with this version, BD Rebuilder
REQUIRES AVISYNTH v2.57 or above. If you do not have it
installed, please download it from:
http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_257.exe
and install it. BD-RB will not work with older
versions of AVISYNTH. It's also listed in the first post of this thread:
@ jdobbs n smnckl

Well, I already had a modded 2.57 so didn't update it, but the one in your link is of later build i guess. Its working now. Started the rip. Hopefully my other utilities which depends on the modded version works on the new dll too.

Thanks.

[Furiousflea]

It looks like a lot of you haven't even tried to resolve problems yourself. Please learn to follow basic instructions instead of wasting people's time with your lazyness.

With all these questions, I'm surprised jdobbs gets anytime at all to actually work on the program.

[Shuttle99]

Can someone post a snapshot of their ffdshow settings so some of us out here that are unsure we have all the codecs set correctly know what they should be set to.

Thanks

[GaPony]

Can someone post a snapshot of their ffdshow settings so some of us out here that are unsure we have all the codecs set correctly know what they should be set to.

Thanks

How tough is this? This is the third time I've reposted what jdobbs has stated at least twice... All you have to do is read the thread, (actually just the very first post to this thread) or use the search feature...

He (jdobbs... the author and authority on this program) mentioned that he used libavcodec for the mpeg2 and H.264/AV settings. All others would be the default settings, as FFDShow installs them. You could actually keep the default setting of ffmpeg-mt for the H264/AV setting without any problem.

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...postcount=1952

[Shuttle99]

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[jewish]

This is my FFDSHOW settings for those that want it.

Kind regards all.

[rmeyers]

tsMuxeR v1.8.26 beta is supposed to have fixed the clpi issues it was having i believe

[stef73]

I was wondering : in ffdshow video decoder configuration, in "Codecs" for VC-1, what decoder do you have ?

Mine is wmv9.

mine is the same elisias

[Elesias]

So I don't understand why I have so many problems... Thanks for your answer though.

[turbojet]

You need wmp 11 installed to use wmv9, which does the same as disabled if wmvideo dmo decoder merit is the highest for vc-1.

[jdobbs]

Don't know if anyone else is experiencing this, but I just wanted to warn anyone who has upgraded FFDSHOW recently:

I ran into several problems (crashing) with the new release of FFDSHOW (ffdshow_rev2719_20090224_clsid) on Vista and was forced to step back to the previous release I was using (ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid). Everything is fine now. Anything WMV or VC-1 would cause a crash almost immediately (I tried it on two different computers, same result) even though it was disabled in the FFDSHOW setup and the default WMV11 should have been used. I just looked, and the bad one is what is still posted for download on the www.x264.com site -- which, unfortunately, is where I've been telling everyone to go.

So if you are experiencing failed encodes... look into this first before posting.

You can download the version that I know works from this link (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid.exe).

[Furiousflea]

All you people with codec problems and if you can't get *any* encodes to work indicating a setup problem on your computer. Why don't you post in my "guide for tools" thread. There is a guide there telling you what settings to use. It's not that well written :p but it does the job and tells you exactly what you need to know.

Now PLEASE stop posting in here. Yes, I know I'm not a mod, but nobody else seems to be standing up and saying what needs to be said.

If you need help with your particular setup and you know full well that it is not a bug, post in my thread, that way we can update the guide with any potential problems you might have and solutions.

[drmih]

With respect to the x264 crashing issues can people check the source material. I have helped a couple of people and the problem was corruption in the source material. Although nobody does it, if your source did come from a newsgroup then there are some with corruption, particularly in the extras. I have had also had a bad rip which caused a problem and redoing it sorted it.

If x264 crashes, see which m2ts file it was doing. Use something like MPC to play the m2ts stream and look for pixelation / blocking (if x264 crashed at xx%, then you can do a rough calc to see how far you should be watching from).

[setarip_old]

@drmih

Hi!if your source did come from a newsgroup then there are some with corruption, particularly in the extras. I have had also had a bad rip which caused a problem and redoing it sorted it.You might want to re-read Rule #6 and the announcement at the top of the "Newbies" sub-forum...

[drmih]

@drmih

Hi!You might want to re-read Rule #6 and the announcement at the top of the "Newbies" sub-forum...

I haven't got a clue what you're on about - I know the rule and neither condone or am personnally using these sources myself but as part of a debugging process if some people are reporting problems caused by damaged sources it's no help to the author.

[jdobbs]

I don't think he's advocating downloading... he's trying to tell people that doing so can result in corrupted files, and not to post bug reports.

I will add to that... if they are downloading files from the internet, they are obviously not legitimate and aren't reliable for beta testing -- so please don't post any bugs you find against those sources. I don't want to have to chase some half-ass hacker's screw-up.

[datman]

I just encoded Gandhi. I first set it up off a fresh rip and as you see the only audio option was 2ch the multichannel option was not available. Not liking that option I ran tsremuxer only selecting the mutichannel and set that up in 20.03 and it worked. I didn't want to post until I was sure it would be successful.

[jdobbs]

I don't understand what you're saying.

[Furiousflea]

I don't understand what you're saying.

I think he's saying that when he opened the source in BD-Rebuilder the multichannel audio didn't appear. He then ran it through tsmuxer and loaded that output in BD-Rebuilder and it then detected it.

[tyau]

I just encoded Gandhi. I first set it up off a fresh rip and as you see the only audio option was 2ch the multichannel option was not available. Not liking that option I ran tsremuxer only selecting the mutichannel and set that up in 20.03 and it worked. I didn't want to post until I was sure it would be successful.



I have had that exact problem before with a few movies, but my enquiry was not addressed. This is why I always use tsmuxer to select my preferred subtitles and audio prior to making movie-only backup using BD-RB.

[rmeyers]

what? you just double click on the audio you want, and it adds it. or, in the settings, make sure you have 'limit to one track for each language' unselected, and then it will automatically add all of the different audio for your specific language.

[MikeyBK]

I just encoded Gandhi. I first set it up off a fresh rip and as you see the only audio option was 2ch the multichannel option was not available. Not liking that option I ran tsremuxer only selecting the mutichannel and set that up in 20.03 and it worked. I didn't want to post until I was sure it would be successful.

I have had that exact problem before with a few movies, but my enquiry was not addressed. This is why I always use tsmuxer to select my preferred subtitles and audio prior to making movie-only backup using BD-RB.

what? you just double click on the audio you want, and it adds it. or, in the settings, make sure you have 'limit to one track for each language' unselected, and then it will automatically add all of the different audio for your specific language.

Wow... that is pretty basic guys.... you really didn't know that you could double-click each audio to enable or disable audio (or Subtitle) streams?
As rmeyers is stating, you could've simply disabled that 2 channel English audio and enabled the TrueHD English stream...

[jdobbs]

I think he's saying that when he opened the source in BD-Rebuilder the multichannel audio didn't appear. He then ran it through tsmuxer and loaded that output in BD-Rebuilder and it then detected it. I don't think so. I think he's saying it wasn't "checked" -- which of course means that in the SETUP screen he selected "English" and "Limit to One Track for each language".

I can see from the graphic he loaded that it was there -- only not selected. All that would take is a single double-click (or unchecking "Limit to One Track for each language").

[Furiousflea]

I don't think so. I think he's saying it wasn't "checked" -- which of course means that in the SETUP screen he selected "English" and "Limit to One Track for each language".

I can see from the graphic he loaded that it was there -- only not selected. All that would take is a single double-click (or unchecking "Limit to One Track for each language").

...Where's the initiative gone to these days...It's beyond belief. I wouldn't be surprised if a gang of monkeys could have worked that out together. You know one of those news reports when they show how some monkey managed to press a correct sequence of buttons for some munch...Itsn't this at that level?

Brick wall!

[datman]

...Where's the initiative gone to these days...It's beyond belief. I wouldn't be surprised if a gang of monkeys could have worked that out together. You know one of those news reports when they show how some monkey managed to press a correct sequence of buttons for some munch...Itsn't this at that level?

Brick wall!

What can I say I'm a moron. I just clicked it and unchecked it. I guess I should be banned. FuriousFlea we all can't be geniuses. I just ask a question. It could have been answered simply. You don't have to spend 3x the time pointing out how stupid I am, Implying how smart you are.

[Furiousflea]

What can I say I'm a moron. I just clicked it and unchecked it. I guess I should be banned. FuriousFlea we all can't be geniuses. I just ask a question. It could have been answered simply. You don't have to spend 3x the time pointing out how stupid I am, Implying how smart you are.

I have nice qualities too like wanting to help you numptees, which is why I wrote a guide. It's not in there though so will add to it at some point. We were all unenlightened once, I'm sure there's stuff you know what I should and I don't. I really didn't mean it personally. This is the internet :)

[laserfan]

This is the internet :)It is also Doom9.org, where Rule #4 says "Be nice to each other..."!

The only members not subject to this rule are Atak and DS! :devil:

[Furiousflea]

It is also Doom9.org, where Rule #4 says "Be nice to each other..."!

The only members not subject to this rule are Atak and DS! :devil:

Awwww but I'm nice really don't be a meany!

[DaMacFunkin]

Ive recently done a backup of taken with version 20.03 to bd5 & i noticed the forced subtitles are missing, not sure if the problem lies with bdrebuilder or tsmuxer, using tsmuxer independently it only shows one english sub stream but does say some tracks not recognsed. This is a region b disc im using.

This has been tested in my ps3 & on a sony 550 blu ray player, my burner is a samsung w163a & use only quality ritek discs.

Thanks
Are you sure the forced subs are even there? The copy i had didn't force any subs even on the original on my Panasonic BD30, i think you might find that it is a mastering error and that is the reason it is currently very hard to track down in UK shops on Blu-ray, if you read this thread http://forum.dvdtalk.com/archive/t-548889.html a few other people also claim that the UK release doesn't indeed have these subs, as too are they needed, yes they are, how do you know that the french police man is having neeson follows till it happens?? etc.

[drmih]

After previously blaming all x264 failures on bad rips, I now have one which is puzzling me, and my detection method. I have a rip of 300 which I was doing full disc, and on an extra it gave the 'x264 stopped working' message. I identified the stream and played it with MPC and sure enough it was blocky and pixelated. Normally I would re-rip it but in this case I double checked by playing the rip with powerdvd. It was perfect and no sign of any damage. Given this I tried to resume the job but I still get x264 errors, although typically at different percentages through.
Am I missing something obvious?

[Furiousflea]

After previously blaming all x264 failures on bad rips, I now have one which is puzzling me, and my detection method. I have a rip of 300 which I was doing full disc, and on an extra it gave the 'x264 stopped working' message. I identified the stream and played it with MPC and sure enough it was blocky and pixelated. Normally I would re-rip it but in this case I double checked by playing the rip with powerdvd. It was perfect and no sign of any damage. Given this I tried to resume the job but I still get x264 errors, although typically at different percentages through.
Am I missing something obvious?

Simple mystery to solve :)

300 was released at the same time as HD DVD version. Virtually all HD DVDs were encoded completely (including extras) in VC1. So basically I bet that the only difference between 300 on bluray is that it has PCM audio on Bluray. What you describe is classic symptoms of interlaced VC1 content.

PowerDVD can play it fine because it has the nessacary inbuilt decoder to decode it correctly, however this decoder is not available outside the program as a direct show filter or whatever so that is why...

PowerDVD - plays fine
Generic media player using ffdshow codec - blocky mess

Edit - just because the extras play as a blocky mess doesn't mean it's a bad rip. They could be interlaced VC1 - or a bad rip. I dunno, I've ripped a fair few blurays and NONE have been "bad rips". The only bad rips I hear of are when the scene release groups get ahead of themselves and upload some crap to usenet with the BD+ protection still on the disc (usually just after BD+ has been updated and AnyDVD HD hasn't).

Most "normal" people wouldn't get hold of the disc before AnyDVD HD has been updated to support it anyway. Bad rips are ridiculously rare unless you have some faulty memory\hard drive on the blink. If you're getting them often to a "chkdsk" scan and see what turns up, bad sectors can be marked as bad and you can still use the drive as normal if that is the case. Failing that run "memtest" from a bootable CD and check your memory...Finally if you have got a disc much earlier than release date and it's not working wait for an AnyDVD HD update. Slysoft release updates in their forum before the final releases as stop gap measures.

[drmih]

Thanks - do I remember a setting where you can get the programme to exclude m2ts files under a certain size as I could do it as a bd-25 and not re-encode the troublesome extras?

[jdobbs]

What can I say I'm a moron. I just clicked it and unchecked it. I guess I should be banned. FuriousFlea we all can't be geniuses. I just ask a question. It could have been answered simply. You don't have to spend 3x the time pointing out how stupid I am, Implying how smart you are.
So so we're clear on this, it's not your fault, it's mine. I spend way too much time writing code and way too little time writing documentation.

[Furiousflea]

Thanks - do I remember a setting where you can get the programme to exclude m2ts files under a certain size as I could do it as a bd-25 and not re-encode the troublesome extras?

It's in the changelog for latest version ;)

[MikeyBK]

What can I say I'm a moron. I just clicked it and unchecked it. I guess I should be banned. FuriousFlea we all can't be geniuses. I just ask a question. It could have been answered simply. You don't have to spend 3x the time pointing out how stupid I am, Implying how smart you are.

So so we're clear on this, it's not your fault, it's mine. I spend way too much time writing code and way too little time writing documentation.


Nobody's fault at all... we've all had those moments datman... sometimes if the answer is too simple we tend to overlook it because we are looking for something complicated as the answer...lol :D. I'm sure we've all done that.

Anyways, furiousflea could easily add screenshots to his guide, that would help more for some....
That would free up JD's time to continue his modifications to the awesome BD-Rebuilder he has created for us...

[klas]

The last version have problems with Powerdvd 8. I can see with Powerdvd 7 but Powerdvd 8 detect avchd not bluray.

regards

[Furiousflea]

Nobody's fault at all... we've all had those moments datman... sometimes if the answer is too simple we tend to overlook it because we are looking for something complicated as the answer...lol :D. I'm sure we've all done that.

Anyways, furiousflea could easily add screenshots to his guide, that would help more for some....
That would free up JD's time to continue his modifications to the awesome BD-Rebuilder he has created for us...

I'm on the case :)

[tyau]

The last version have problems with Powerdvd 8. I can see with Powerdvd 7 but Powerdvd 8 detect avchd not bluray.

regards

Which build of PowerDVD 8 do you have? The latest build, 2217, which I downloaded directly from Cyberlink 3 days ago doesn't have this problem. Though the build 2521 that is available mainly in torrents have the exact problem you are describing.

[tyau]

Wow... that is pretty basic guys.... you really didn't know that you could double-click each audio to enable or disable audio (or Subtitle) streams?
As rmeyers is stating, you could've simply disabled that 2 channel English audio and enabled the TrueHD English stream...


I am not sure if my problem is similar to datman's, but with one of the earlier versions (0.18.xx) of BD-RB and a couple of blu-ray that I tested, the audio could not be enabled with mere double clicks. The DTS-HD was simply not on the list of audio options.

Unfortunately I forgot which movie it was. I have made many more backup copies since then.

...Where's the initiative gone to these days...It's beyond belief. I wouldn't be surprised if a gang of monkeys could have worked that out together. You know one of those news reports when they show how some monkey managed to press a correct sequence of buttons for some munch...Itsn't this at that level?

Brick wall!

If being compared to monkeys is the response I get for reporting bugs and errors, then I guess I will refrain to do so in the future. My apologies for bringing idiocy to the community.

[MikeyBK]

then I guess I will refrain to do so in the future.

We all still have to report what we think are bugs..... if it turns out to be user inflicted, then no worries, easy to fix right...lol

I remember having an issue with The Secret Life of Bees, and reported it as a bug, was kinda pffffttt at because it seemed that there was no way it could be like I reported.
However it was, that BD had two main movie playlists, but each with completely different audio streams (both English Multichannel DTS-HD) that could not match up if crossed... and I had chosen the first audio stream but the longer second playlist was chosen by BD-RB... the result was some of the content woith completely wrong audio... When I went back and selected the second main audio stream, with BD-RB choosing the second main movie playlist, the audio then matched up.

Completely unique to this Bluray, I reported it as a bug and was in a way accused of pre-processing but I hadn't, ended up that it was indeed an issue if Blurays were authored in this way...... I had to be sure to select the correct main audio stream to match up with the playlist BD-RB chose.

So don't feel squemish about reporting what you feel might be a bug, it's the only way to rule it out. Even if it ends up being something you could've fixed yourself, betterr than not saying anything and continuing to live with something that could very easily be adjusted...

BTW, I didn't mean to come across as harsh, if I sounded that way, my apologies... I was just mentioning that it was pretty easy to fix. Cheers ;)

[Chefkoch_ico]

Which build of PowerDVD 8 do you have? The latest build, 2217, which I downloaded directly from Cyberlink 3 days ago doesn't have this problem. Though the build 2521 that is available mainly in torrents have the exact problem you are describing.

Dont tell wrong things. I downloaded this:
http://update.cyberlink.com/ftpdload/patch/powerdvd/8/CyberLink.2521_DVD081231-02.exe
more than a week ago. And its also linked on the download page too.

Btw. I dont do BD5 or BD9 but BD25 are working normal as they should.

Bye

[turbojet]

After previously blaming all x264 failures on bad rips, I now have one which is puzzling me, and my detection method. I have a rip of 300 which I was doing full disc, and on an extra it gave the 'x264 stopped working' message. I identified the stream and played it with MPC and sure enough it was blocky and pixelated. Normally I would re-rip it but in this case I double checked by playing the rip with powerdvd. It was perfect and no sign of any damage. Given this I tried to resume the job but I still get x264 errors, although typically at different percentages through.
Am I missing something obvious?

I had the same problem with 300. It is a few of the bigger interlaced VC-1 streams that have the issue. What I did was setup cyberlink to decode it by setting the merits in graphstudio and it worked. This is also another workaround (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138603). I wouldn't use cyberlink for all VC-1 streams though as I've seen it freeze a frame and continue to display it until the runtime is up, x264 really speeds up in these cases. WMVideo DMO (WMV9 in ffdshow) handled these streams just fine.

BTW this isn't really a BD-Rebuilder issue at all, I don't know if jdobbs can do anything about it either. I've tried contacting people involved in libavcodec with no luck and I'm not even going to try contacting microsoft as I think trying to contact them without knowing them is a lost cause.

Maybe jdobbs can put something in the original post in big bold as we have a lot of posts in this thread that involve decoder issues.

[DK]

it's not a bug actually only me being stupid but still i hope someone can help me out:

bd rebuilder failed with the final rebuilding - because the target drive was FULL

not being familiar with bd structures at all and because this was my very first go with bd rebuilder, can someone tell me how to "repeat" the final phase of rebuilder after having gone through hours of encoding?

with dvd-rb i'd have tha chance of using 3-click and then simply repeating rebuild-step but what can can do with bd rebuilder?

[tekmobile]

it's not a bug actually only me being stupid but still i hope someone can help me out:

bd rebuilder failed with the final rebuilding - because the target drive was FULL

not being familiar with bd structures at all and because this was my very first go with bd rebuilder, can someone tell me how to "repeat" the final phase of rebuilder after having gone through hours of encoding?

with dvd-rb i'd have tha chance of using 3-click and then simply repeating rebuild-step but what can can do with bd rebuilder?

If you just press the backup button it should just prompt you asking if you want to continue from where you let off.

[DK]

thanks, tekmobile - it did the magic

didn't dare to do so as i thought i'd repeat the entire encoding process.

good solution, jdoobs!

[Furiousflea]

thanks, tekmobile - it did the magic

didn't dare to do so as i thought i'd repeat the entire encoding process.

good solution, jdoobs!

Just make sure if it happens again that you don't change ANYTHING at all in a panic. If you do it won't give you the option to continue :)

[NexGen76]

I was doing BD-25 i had max QT setting & also had do not convert DTS to AC3 checked.......I lost my Log that's why couldn't post it.But my finish product over shot the target by 500MB.Blu-Ray Movie was King Kong using BD-RB 0.20.03.Just wanted to know if anyone else had this issue before ? Thxs

[Chefkoch_ico]

I was doing BD-25 i had max QT setting & also had do not convert DTS to AC3 checked.......I lost my Log that's why couldn't post it.But my finish product over shot the target by 500MB.Blu-Ray Movie was King Kong using BD-RB 0.20.03.Just wanted to know if anyone else had this issue before ? Thxs

Hi!

To not need to reencode all, reenoce some of the xtras with lower bitrate.

I made a small batch script, which logs all x264 commands, so you can easily encode with lower bitrate and rebuild.

@echo off
:start
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo new last cmd found...
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING -n 10 127.0.0.1>nul
goto start


Just let it run during BD-RB.

Bye

[DaMacFunkin]

Wanted Region B doesn't seem to work Both in my Panasonic BD30 and Power DVD 8, i have tried it with a few versions of BD Rebuilder and with a couple of different settings and it hangs at the same place on both players, even from a built image file of the output. The original full rip plays fine in power dvd 8 so something else must be wrong. Here is a list of what Happens:
1. Universal Logo Plays fine.
2. Top Menu to select audio (on the last encode i did i chose to keep japanese audio as well as this is the first audio track) choose either japanese or english as audio.
3. Shows copyright languages in whatever language was chosen.
4. Now shows Java Loading bar.
5. Shows Main menu in whatever language you chose. (note all the extras play fine)
6. Choose play movie option - disk (or image file) freezes.

With the original rip as an image file, at option 6. press play, i can tell from the info window on power dvd 8 that the files quickly cycle through different DTS audio settings within a couple of seconds - i.e. DTS 5.1 750kbps - DTS HD 5.1 1536 Kbps - DTS Master HD audio at whatever very large audio rate that is. Also with the the original Disk in my Panasonic, when pressing play at this point, the film starts but it takes my reciever a couple of seconds to pick the audio stream up. I don't know if any of this is significant but it does seem like rather odd behaviour.
Any Takers?

[NexGen76]

Hi!

To not need to reencode all, reenoce some of the xtras with lower bitrate.

I made a small batch script, which logs all x264 commands, so you can easily encode with lower bitrate and rebuild.

@echo off
:start
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo new last cmd found...
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING -n 10 127.0.0.1>nul
goto start


Just let it run during BD-RB.

Bye

I had my extras set on Fast encode so i was thinking maybe it was encoding at a lower Bitrate ? If fast extra's are set to this does this mean it will encode at a lower Bitrate ? Thxs

[Chefkoch_ico]

I had my extras set on Fast encode so i was thinking maybe it was encoding at a lower Bitrate ? If fast extra's are set to this does this mean it will encode at a lower Bitrate ? Thxs

Its doing just one pass. Anyway, you can reencode only some extras manually and see if it fits.

If the main movie on the original disc is not to big and in AVC, you can even NOT encode the main movie and use it as it is. Although its some manual steps involved.

Bye

[Chefkoch_ico]

Wanted Region B doesn't seem to work Both in my Panasonic BD30 and Power DVD 8, i have tried it with a few versions of BD Rebuilder and with a couple of different settings and it hangs at the same place on both players, even from a built image file of the output. The original full rip plays fine in power dvd 8 so something else must be wrong. Here is a list of what Happens:
1. Universal Logo Plays fine.
2. Top Menu to select audio (on the last encode i did i chose to keep japanese audio as well as this is the first audio track) choose either japanese or english as audio.
3. Shows copyright languages in whatever language was chosen.
4. Now shows Java Loading bar.
5. Shows Main menu in whatever language you chose. (note all the extras play fine)
6. Choose play movie option - disk (or image file) freezes.

With the original rip as an image file, at option 6. press play, i can tell from the info window on power dvd 8 that the files quickly cycle through different DTS audio settings within a couple of seconds - i.e. DTS 5.1 750kbps - DTS HD 5.1 1536 Kbps - DTS Master HD audio at whatever very large audio rate that is. Also with the the original Disk in my Panasonic, when pressing play at this point, the film starts but it takes my reciever a couple of seconds to pick the audio stream up. I don't know if any of this is significant but it does seem like rather odd behaviour.
Any Takers?

Same here with "The mummy 3", german and as far as I remember with "Kung fu panda", german. After playing the menu, when I choose "start movie", it hangs.

Bye

[jdobbs]

Just make sure if it happens again that you don't change ANYTHING at all in a panic. If you do it won't give you the option to continue :)It will always ask if it can continue, if not it will prompt you whether to overwrite the Working directory. If you say no to that one you are still safe.

Most of the time if you think it should let you continue, but it won't -- check your selections (source, destination, output size, movie-only/full, audio selections, etc). They have to be the same in order to continue on a previous encode..

[jdobbs]

Hi!

To not need to reencode all, reenoce some of the xtras with lower bitrate.

I made a small batch script, which logs all x264 commands, so you can easily encode with lower bitrate and rebuild.

@echo off
:start
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo new last cmd found...
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING -n 10 127.0.0.1>nul
goto start


Just let it run during BD-RB.

Bye
This seems like it would slow down the encode (because it is continually running and using the disc and processor)???

[Chefkoch_ico]

This seems like it would slow down the encode (because it is continually running and using the disc and processor)???

Yes of course. But should not be to much. Anyway its the easiest way to get a x264 command history.

It was not only once useful for me.

[DaMacFunkin]

Same here with "The mummy 3", german and as far as I remember with "Kung fu panda", german. After playing the menu, when I choose "start movie", it hangs.

Bye

Thats interesting, because The Mummy 3 is a Universal Title too!? Has anybody else had problems with these or other universal titles?

[tekmobile]

@echo off
:start
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo new last cmd found...
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING -n 10 127.0.0.1>nul
goto start


Just let it run during BD-RB.

Bye


@echo off
:start
START BD_Rebuilder.exe
ECHO Setup BD Rebuilder ONLY Dont start the backup then
PAUSE
CLS
set /p disc=What disc are you doing ?
echo Disc Title: %disc% >> CMDHistory.txt
echo Adding %disc% to CMDHistory
ECHO Copying the settings file to CMDHistory
TYPE BDREBUILDER.INI >> CMDHistory.txt
ECHO Writing commands to CMDHistory
ECHO You may now press the Backup button
:run
if not exist lastcmd.txt goto delay
echo Writing new command to CMDHistory
if exist prevcmd.txt del prevcmd.txt
ren lastcmd.txt prevcmd.txt
type prevcmd.txt >> CMDHistory.txt
:delay
PING 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 10000>null
goto run


I have made some additional mods to your code to also write the settings file to the CMDHistory and auto start BD Rebuilder at the start its asks for the name of the disc too (there may be any easier method to do this but im not sure) so its easier to know what commands are for what disc in the history file.

Also I have changed your ping command so it only pings once than waits 10 seconds instead of pinging 10 times this also reduces cpu usage

It may very slightly slow the encode down but its nothing noticable and may help in toubleshooting troublesome discs

[datman]

I have nice qualities too like wanting to help you numptees, which is why I wrote a guide. It's not in there though so will add to it at some point. We were all unenlightened once, I'm sure there's stuff you know what I should and I don't. I really didn't mean it personally. This is the internet :)


Sorry if I took it personal. I know you mean well and have helped me out alot.:o

[drpaulng]

There is a very annoying problem that for non-unicode language such as Chinese, the source path is invalid. We must set the non-unicode programing language to English in the "control center/language and region/advanced" and reboot in order to use BDRB. Otherwise, an error message (source check 00006) telling you the selected source is not BD format keeps on forever. Anyone knows any workaround other than doing the language setting? Because after setting the language to English, all other programs may have invalid path and the language should be re-set back to English and reboot again. Thanks in advance.

PS: Clown_BD_v0.40b.exe and CLIPINF_Editor_v0.02b.exe do not have the same problem for source path.

[spida_singh]

jdobbs....

Excellent program first off. But, more of a request than a bug report, but necessary as it could be classed as a bug in this thread. Whilst encoding Hellboy 2 (Movie only), my sister accidently took the disc out to play another movie on the pc. BDRB was minimsed. The job ran fine, and completed as if it was all successful, media info gave the correct duration. But, it came to light later when she told me she took the disc out, that the full movie had not been encoded. when playing back the stream, VLC reported it was a full length movie (full duration displayed), but, I can really only view up to about 45 minutes into the film (I could not seek to the end of the movie). I originally thought that BDRB had demuxed the files, and then ran off the workfiles folder, as no warning was given when the disc was ejected.

But now I can confirm that even though the job stated it ran 100%, and vlc as well media info reported back the correct duration of the stream, it was not all there in the end result, the file size was also correct.

Im just asking if it's possible to as a warning to state the disc has been ejected.

Unfortuantly I deleted the workfiles folder, and have started the job again, (so no logs etc) making sure the disc will not be ejected.

BTW: Using latest version 0.20.03

Many thanks

[tekmobile]

jdobbs....

Excellent program first off. But, more of a request than a bug report, but necessary as it could be classed as a bug in this thread. Whilst encoding Hellboy 2 (Movie only), my sister accidently took the disc out to play another movie on the pc. BDRB was minimsed. The job ran fine, and completed as if it was all successful, media info gave the correct duration. But, it came to light later when she told me she took the disc out, that the full movie had not been encoded. when playing back the stream, VLC reported it was a full length movie (full duration displayed), but, I can really only view up to about 45 minutes into the film (I could not seek to the end of the movie). I originally thought that BDRB had demuxed the files, and then ran off the workfiles folder, as no warning was given when the disc was ejected.

But now I can confirm that even though the job stated it ran 100%, and vlc as well media info reported back the correct duration of the stream, it was not all there in the end result, the file size was also correct.

Im just asking if it's possible to as a warning to state the disc has been ejected.

Unfortuantly I deleted the workfiles folder, and have started the job again, (so no logs etc) making sure the disc will not be ejected.

Many thanks

I also had this same problem doing a encode over a network (the image was stored an a windows home server) network connectivity was briefly interupted and BD-RB just proceeded to the next file without errors I wouldnt have known if it wasnt for the encode finishing much sooner than expected and obviously when testing

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs....

Excellent program first off. But, more of a request than a bug report, but necessary as it could be classed as a bug in this thread. Whilst encoding Hellboy 2 (Movie only), my sister accidently took the disc out to play another movie on the pc. BDRB was minimsed. The job ran fine, and completed as if it was all successful, media info gave the correct duration. But, it came to light later when she told me she took the disc out, that the full movie had not been encoded. when playing back the stream, VLC reported it was a full length movie (full duration displayed), but, I can really only view up to about 45 minutes into the film (I could not seek to the end of the movie). I originally thought that BDRB had demuxed the files, and then ran off the workfiles folder, as no warning was given when the disc was ejected.

But now I can confirm that even though the job stated it ran 100%, and vlc as well media info reported back the correct duration of the stream, it was not all there in the end result, the file size was also correct.

Im just asking if it's possible to as a warning to state the disc has been ejected.

Unfortuantly I deleted the workfiles folder, and have started the job again, (so no logs etc) making sure the disc will not be ejected.

BTW: Using latest version 0.20.03

Many thanks

I doubt very much this will be implemented. BDRB is designed for use with sources that have already been ripped to the hard drive. If your using AnyDVD HD just use the built in ripper or windows explorer and copy all the folders to a folder on your hard drive and load that folder into BDRB.

Encoding straight from a disc is ALWAYS a bad idea unless you simply can't make enough space for the process when ripping the disc to your computer. It places a lot of strain on your Bluray drive too. Encodes can take 10+ hours and reading with your bluray drive constantly like that is not a good idea generally speaking.

You'll have more reliable results reading from the hard drive also because you might find there is an error on the disc and then BDRB enocdes it, it won't "try again" like a disc ripper would by reducing the read speed right down etc.

Hope your getting what I'm saying. Rip it to your hard drive first ;) always.

[Furiousflea]

I also had this same problem doing a encode over a network (the image was stored an a windows home server) network connectivity was briefly interupted and BD-RB just proceeded to the next file without errors I wouldnt have known if it wasnt for the encode finishing much sooner than expected and obviously when testing

Same as the above really. And it is not a critisism of your method but for best results and to avoid those potential problems its a dead cert bad idea to encode from disc\network storage. Especially a NAS many of them don't like the massive bluray m2ts files and crash after copying large ones.

In any case, BDRB like DVDRB isn't really desinged as a simple "1 click" type tool (I don't think at least). So it might be a bit more hassle to have it on your local hard drive but hey, you're going to get good results hopefully that way.

[spida_singh]

I doubt very much this will be implemented. BDRB is designed for use with sources that have already been ripped to the hard drive. If your using AnyDVD HD just use the built in ripper or windows explorer and copy all the folders to a folder on your hard drive and load that folder into BDRB.

Encoding straight from a disc is ALWAYS a bad idea unless you simply can't make enough space for the process when ripping the disc to your computer. It places a lot of strain on your Bluray drive too. Encodes can take 10+ hours and reading with your bluray drive constantly like that is not a good idea generally speaking.

You'll have more reliable results reading from the hard drive also because you might find there is an error on the disc and then BDRB enocdes it, it won't "try again" like a disc ripper would by reducing the read speed right down etc.

Hope your getting what I'm saying. Rip it to your hard drive first ;) always.

Thats fine, it's handy from disc, saves time ripping, though i understand ripping to hard drive will always be best, il have to run my jobs during the night i guess. Thanks

[GaPony]

Saves time ripping????? How about ripping to the HDD saves you from having a Blu-Ray drive die prematurely. If that argument doesn't sway you, I would think the slow transfer rate of the optical drive would be enough to sell you on the idea of working from a folder on the hard drive.

I don't see where working from the optical drive is handy under any circumstances. The possibility for errors is exponentially greater, it would seem.

[spida_singh]

Saves time ripping????? How about ripping to the HDD saves you from having a Blu-Ray drive die prematurely. If that argument doesn't sway you, I would think the slow transfer rate of the optical drive would be enough to sell you on the idea of working from a folder on the hard drive.

I don't see where working from the optical drive is handy under any circumstances. The possibility for errors is exponentially greater, it would seem.

Relax....I am not a heavy encoder, i do the odd blu ray now and then, it takes a total of 6 hours max to do the highest quality backup using BD-RB. 3.4Ghz Q6600 under my hood :D

I will backup from HDD from now on....id rather have a drive than not:thanks:

[Furiousflea]

Relax....I am not a heavy encoder, i do the odd blu ray now and then, it takes a total of 6 hours max to do the highest quality backup using BD-RB. 3.4Ghz Q6600 under my hood :D

I will backup from HDD from now on....id rather have a drive than not:thanks:

lol :) I think he is relaxed it's just that it's really a very bad idea to work from the drive and he's just conveying that to you ;) In all honesty it might actually be around the same time working from a folder on your har drive because accessing the Bluray drive constantly especailly through AnyDVD HD which would use cpu cycles to decrypt + overhead of reading the folder would use more cpu cycles than reading straight from a folder. So you will find you might encode at an extra frame per second or 2 (guess ;)).

Anyway :) give it a go and let us know if it does go faster.

[lordraider]

First of all, Thx for this wonderfull program.

I have a little question, if you have a bd-50gb disc (you can get them but are still a little expensive :)) and want to let's say do a full untouched backup (not reencoded). Is this possible with BD-rebuilder? For example by setting the target size large enough or will it always reencode the audio and video? I know it will recreate menu structure and so but I like the video and audio untouched :).

Thx in advance

[spida_singh]

Guys, set off another encode, but, for some reason, i got BSOD?? Only did a fresh install about 2 weeks back, any ideas what could be causing it? The same happened with my Family guy rips when using automkv, i got BSOD after the audio encode, is x264.exe causing a crash (as this was used when converting to a .mp4)? Strange as it worked with my hellboy encode overnight??

[Furiousflea]

Guys, set off another encode, but, for some reason, i got BSOD?? Only did a fresh install about 2 weeks back, any ideas what could be causing it? The same happened with my Family guy rips when using automkv, i got BSOD after the audio encode, is x264.exe causing a crash (as this was used when converting to a .mp4)? Strange as it worked with my hellboy encode overnight??

A BSOD will usually mean an unstale overclock on your system (FSB\CPU\RAM), not enough volts or overheating. Just because one encode worked doesn't mean that it isn't the problem as you could be on the upper threshold and if the ambient temp is slightly warmer one day it could push a component over the edge in terms of heat etc.

Hard to say, but you should run Prim95 (latest version that tests all cores) for a couple of hours to check. Also run memtest to check the memory for a couple of hours afterwards.

[spida_singh]

A BSOD will usually mean an unstale overclock on your system (FSB\CPU\RAM), not enough volts or overheating. Just because one encode worked doesn't mean that it isn't the problem as you could be on the upper threshold and if the ambient temp is slightly warmer one day it could push a component over the edge in terms of heat etc.

Hard to say, but you should run Prim95 (latest version that tests all cores) for a couple of hours to check. Also run memtest to check the memory for a couple of hours afterwards.


PM Sent

[tekmobile]

First of all, Thx for this wonderfull program.

I have a little question, if you have a bd-50gb disc (you can get them but are still a little expensive :)) and want to let's say do a full untouched backup (not reencoded). Is this possible with BD-rebuilder? For example by setting the target size large enough or will it always reencode the audio and video? I know it will recreate menu structure and so but I like the video and audio untouched :).

Thx in advance

If you want to create a untouched BD-50 just rip to image using anydvd hd and then burn that image back to a BD-R50 using your favorite burning program (imgburn highly recomended) there is no need to do any modifications, encodes, rebuilds or anything else for that matter

[turbojet]

jdobbs: concerning the 720p sup bug I reported. BDSup2Sub (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277) currently works on the 3 BD's I know that are problematic in BD-RB it also resizes to match the same size as the original 1080p. It has command line support now too.

Would it be possible to either use this tool to do 1080p -> 720p sup resizing in BD-RB or talk to the developer about what he did in hopes of fixing BD-RB?

[GaPony]

First of all, Thx for this wonderfull program.

I have a little question, if you have a bd-50gb disc (you can get them but are still a little expensive :)) and want to let's say do a full untouched backup (not reencoded). Is this possible with BD-rebuilder? For example by setting the target size large enough or will it always reencode the audio and video? I know it will recreate menu structure and so but I like the video and audio untouched :).

Thx in advance

I think Tekmobile already answered the question pretty well, but that leaves me one for you....

Why bother with 50gb BD-R media? For that price you can buy another original movie (especially if you wait a couple weeks after the initial release) and not have to risk making a coaster. You really owe it to yourself to try BD-Rebuilder. You'll get excellant results and save a ton of money, since BD-25 media is below the $5.00 mark.

After all... the video and audio of even a 50gb Blu-Ray movie is still compressed from the original source.

[lordraider]

Damn,

I didn't know if I ripped a bluray via AnyDVD HD and just burns the image to a BD50 or BD25 (if it is a BD25 original) and put it in my PS3 it will just play like the original bluray disk??

Is this correct what I am saying? I thought the PS3 would see it is not a true genuine bluray movie and would not play it?

[turbojet]

Ya virtually all BD players including PS3 play original BD's and full backups from BD-RB on a BD25/50 just like it should.

[lordraider]

I thought I would need some program like Slysoft CloneDVD HD for this which doesn't exist ...

[GaPony]

I thought I would need some program like Slysoft CloneDVD HD for this which doesn't exist ...

Nope! Just use ImgBurn! The PS3 plays them just fine. Its only the full movies on BD5 & BD9 that its doesn't like.

Its nice to get good news...isn't it? :)

[lordraider]

Indeed good news :).
Amazing that PS3 plays a bluray copy.
I thought the mkv step was necessary and that means no subtitles on PS3 (yet) , no menu, no extra's.
Damn good news for me!
I am baffled I didn't found out this earlier. But you hear so much about those mkv's :).

[DaMacFunkin]

I decided to take it upon myself to see if there was a problem with some Universal titles after many unsucessful attempts at Wanted Region B (see my previous posts) so i thought i would try The Mummy 3 UK Release. The title keeps crashing x264 - some of the extras streams are VC1 1080i encoded.. Help!!!

[turbojet]

If VC-1 is really the problem this should work (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1261658#post1261658) as long as you have powerDVD 8 installed, you can always trial it if you don't.

[turbojet]

lordraider you are probably only one of millions out there hearing everything about mkv and nothing about BD.

You may in some cases be able to save some time by removing streams without encoding video and blanking extrsa (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144980) but it hasn't been tested by many yet.

[DaMacFunkin]

If VC-1 is really the problem this should work (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1261658#post1261658) as long as you have powerDVD 8 installed, you can always trial it if you don't.

Hmm, do you know of a guide or a step by step progress to use CLVC1Loader.ax ??? I'm stumped.
Cheers.

[turbojet]

Setting cyberlink splitter and decoder to a higher merit with graphstudio may work too. But otherwise you can use crude vc1tweak installer (http://www.sendspace.com/file/chnntj) I made a little bit ago.

[jewish]

Which folder do we put this file in ? CLVC1Loader.ax?

Kind regards

[lordraider]

i finished The incredible Hulk with BD rebuilder, everything went fine, no errors. Then i build an iso file with imgburn with udf 2.5. from the folder : "INCRED_HULK_2008_G51" which was created by bd rebuilder. When I mount it with virtual deamon powerdvd 8 starts and says : "There is a disc with an unsupported format in drive F:".

The content of the root is BDMV and CERTIFICATE just like the original bluray (which plays fine on powerdvd 8). What did I do wrong?

Anybody an Idea?

[DaMacFunkin]

Setting cyberlink splitter and decoder to a higher merit with graphstudio may work too. But otherwise you can use crude vc1tweak installer (http://www.sendspace.com/file/chnntj) I made a little bit ago.

Hi Turbojet, sorry to be a pain and thanks for your help, i have installed your tweak vc-1 on vista 64 bit, now what?
I have tried an encode of the troublesome file with libavcodec selected for vc-1 in ffd and all that outputs is a grey still.?

[DaMacFunkin]

i finished The incredible Hulk with BD rebuilder, everything went fine, no errors. Then i build an iso file with imgburn with udf 2.5. from the folder : "INCRED_HULK_2008_G51" which was created by bd rebuilder. When I mount it with virtual deamon powerdvd 8 starts and says : "There is a disc with an unsupported format in drive F:".

The content of the root is BDMV and CERTIFICATE just like the original bluray (which plays fine on powerdvd 8). What did I do wrong?

Anybody an Idea?
Did you rip using default settings with AnyDVD HD? Some disks don't like you taking anything at all out of them.

[turbojet]

virtual daemon is daemon tools?

virtual clonedrive is the only mounting software I know of that correctly mounts BD.

[turbojet]

DaMacFunkin load any vc-1 m2ts into graphstudio and see what is being used to decode. If it's anything other than cyberlink loader, go to graph > insert filter > directshow filters > cyberlink vc-1 loader > change merit and set to preferred +2 and try loading the m2ts again and see if cyberlink vc-1 loader is decoding it. After you are done with the troublesome file(s) make sure to uninstall vc1tweak as it's pretty buggy for encoding a lot of vc-1 streams.

[lordraider]

virtual daemon is daemon tools?

virtual clonedrive is the only mounting software I know of that correctly mounts BD.

I indeed use deamon tools, i'll try virtual clonedrive :). Thx for the tip.

[drmih]

I decided to take it upon myself to see if there was a problem with some Universal titles after many unsucessful attempts at Wanted Region B (see my previous posts) so i thought i would try The Mummy 3 UK Release. The title keeps crashing x264 - some of the extras streams are VC1 1080i encoded.. Help!!!

I also had this problem. The easiest solution I found was to identify the extra m2ts files which won't work and then find the size of the largest. Change the .ini setting to only encode files larger than the above, and do as a bd-25.

[schlaufer]

i finished The incredible Hulk with BD rebuilder, everything went fine, no errors. Then i build an iso file with imgburn with udf 2.5. from the folder : "INCRED_HULK_2008_G51" which was created by bd rebuilder. When I mount it with virtual deamon powerdvd 8 starts and says : "There is a disc with an unsupported format in drive F:".

The content of the root is BDMV and CERTIFICATE just like the original bluray (which plays fine on powerdvd 8). What did I do wrong?

Anybody an Idea?

I had a similar problem with a likely long label.
I've shortened the label with ImgBurn (under ISO/Tools) and it worked fine.

[lordraider]

Ok, I installed virtual clonedrive and now the movie starts in PowerDVD, the intro works, the menu's are working, loaded an extra , it worked too. But if I try to play the movie or select a scene it won't start, the screen stays black. I don't know if it is a powerdvd issue or bd rebuilder did something wrong.

I tried to open the mt2s file with windows mediaplayer and it plays fine.

It is a Universal Title (the incredible hulk)

Jdobbs if you need some more info or a file for debugging just ask and I'll send it to you.

Here is the log. (only from the movie part)

[Status]
LABEL=INCRED_HULK_2008_G51
VERSION=v0.20.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45492909958
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=44155416576
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.526585765032462
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=50
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00009]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=11111111110000000000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=12520246583
RATE=13122
NSIZE=12130719744
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Biffa001]

any more help on the below probs guys?

I'm stuck :(

I've updated AVISynth to the latest 2.58 version and tried again - still no joy, the same x264.exe crash.

- I've also noticed that when BD_Rebuilder gets to this point:



shouldn't Haali and FFDshow bee seen in the taskbar, as they aren't?

Any other suggestions please ? Thanks for your help, it's appreciated, hope we get to the bottom of this!

[turbojet]

Biffa001: Check stream window and if it's VC1 try the VC1tweak I mentioned earlier today. If its H.264 or MPEG2 make sure you have latest ffdshow (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ffdshow-tryout/ffdshow_rev2787_20090317_clsid.exe?use_mirror=osdn) and in video decoder options make sure H.264 is set to ffmpeg-mt (although libavcodec may decode more) and MPEG2 is set to (libavcodec). If you've tried all these can you cut out a part that doesn't decode with something like dgsplit and upload it to a place like http://www.sendspace.com and post the link?

Also what drmih works fine without all the hassle if you are encoding to BD25 but if you are encoding to BD5/9 you might not want to keep all streams smaller then the stream that is causing problems untouched. I know with 300 it was 3x 1.8-2 GB 1080i VC-1 streams that if I kept everything smaller it would be larger then the BD9 I was aiming for. However if VC1tweak doesn't work you don't really have another option as far as I know.

[mot]

When opening American Gangster(movie only) your latest 2003 gives error and aborts............any help for this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx for all your wonderful work!!!

[robinthehood]

While doing "Blindness" German Region B everything seemed fine until the closing minutes and then while "multiplexing M2TS file" i got this error
BD Rebuilder experienced an error 8 [08:25:13] DoEncoding() 00009 8, this is the first error i've had, anyone able to shed any light?

[tekmobile]

Using the latest version 0.20.03

Just done Quantum Of Solace full copy to BD25 but there was a problem with skipping through the movie when played back through TMT2.

By skipping im meaning every time you try to skip a chapter the chapter changes and the timeline moves but the movie restarts from the begining.

No errors were encountered or reported through the entire encode and the origional ISO plays properly with no issues.

[GaPony]

While doing "Blindness" German Region B everything seemed fine until the closing minutes and then while "multiplexing M2TS file" i got this error
BD Rebuilder experienced an error 8 [08:25:13] DoEncoding() 00009 8, this is the first error i've had, anyone able to shed any light?

Funny that you should mention that. I got the same error this morning when doing a movie only copy (BD9) with Pirates of the Caribbean 3. It first gave a notice of audio/PGS sizing issue and asked if I wanted to continue, then continued with the immediate error as you stated..

[turbojet]

Using the latest version 0.20.03

Just done Quantum Of Solace full copy to BD25 but there was a problem with skipping through the movie when played back through TMT2.

By skipping im meaning every time you try to skip a chapter the chapter changes and the timeline moves but the movie restarts from the begining.

No errors were encountered or reported through the entire encode and the origional ISO plays properly with no issues.

Does the backup have chapters?
You can check this in tsmuxer on the chapter page with the right mpls is loaded.

[Shuttle99]

Funny that you should mention that. I got the same error this morning when doing a movie only copy (BD9) with Pirates of the Caribbean 3. It first gave a notice of audio/PGS sizing issue and asked if I wanted to continue, then continued with the immediate error as you stated..


Had the same error and found a work around that worked for me had a few others do the same error. This is what I did and has worked 100% on all that gave me that error.
When I open the folder in BD Rebuilder I noticed there is an extra video file showing up under the audio so what ever file it was for eg 0002 I moved the file to another folder temporarily and told BD Rebuilder to open the folder again and now that extra file is not there, now click backup and you will get an erro "to be expected" in the BD log on the screen. Move that file back to where it came from and do not rescan the folder again and just click backup again and let it go. I've done this on about 5 so far and all work great. Not sure why it has worked but it has.

[jewish]

Hi jdobbs and every one.

Well i still had a few problems with some discs and even got the notice of audio/PGS sizing issue and asked if I wanted to continue, then continued with the immediate error 8 [08:25:13] DoEncoding() 00009 8.

So what i did was REMOVE ALL CODECS FROM MY SYSTEM. REBOOTED. REINSTALLED ONLY FFDSHOW V 2768, AVISYNTH V 258, AND HALI SPLITTER.

I`ve now had no errors at all and all working fine.

Hope this helps others.

Kind regards all.

[GaPony]

Hi jdobbs and every one.

Well i still had a few problems with some discs and even got the notice of audio/PGS sizing issue and asked if I wanted to continue, then continued with the immediate error 8 [08:25:13] DoEncoding() 00009 8.

So what i did was REMOVE ALL CODECS FROM MY SYSTEM. REBOOTED. REINSTALLED ONLY FFDSHOW V 2768, AVISYNTH V 258, AND HALI SPLITTER.

I`ve now had no errors at all and all working fine.

Hope this helps others.

Kind regards all.

This particular system has Windows XP (SP3), WMP 11, FFDshow, Hali Splitter, AviSynth, and BD-Rebuilder... nothing else, so it couldn't be a rogue codec... especially since I've done over 100 other movies on the same PC.

I ran it again for BD-25 and no problems... yet. :eek: :)

I'm thinking its just gremlins at work.

[klas]

I think that the last version have problems of rebuilding. The film Let the Right One In stop the menu and have problems of sync with the audio with all Powerdvd. The same reencoding with 0.20.0.1 no stop the menu and its ok.

I return to this old version because a couple of films only it is posible to se it with Power dvd 7 and not with Powerdvd 8.

regards

[tekmobile]

Does the backup have chapters?
You can check this in tsmuxer on the chapter page with the right mpls is loaded.

Looks like it has chapters this is the metafile output from tsmuxer on the movie playlist of the backup


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:04:10.124;00:07:27.530;00:10:20.536;00:15:16.832;00:17:47.649;00:20:24.306;00:22:51.369;00:26:28.420;00:29:06.369;00:33:16.911;00:35:48.104;00:39:02.131;00:44:19.156;00:47:21.797;00:52:30.897;00:56:29.010;01:01:17.173;01:04:51.012;01:11:04.802;01:12:34.433;01:17:16.423;01:21:05.694;01:24:17.719;01:29:19.937;01:36:15.519;01:37:59.248;01:41:39.134;01:46:14.117 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113, mplsFile=00001
A_DTS, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng, mplsFile=00001
A_AC3, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng, mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=eng, mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4609, lang=deu, mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4610, lang=spa, mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4611, lang=ita, mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4612, lang=dan, mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4613, lang=fin, mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4614, lang=nor, mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\HTPC\Desktop\QUANTUM_OF_SOLACE\BDMV\STREAM\00013.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4615, lang=swe, mplsFile=00001


I moved the folder to the desktop to allow BD-RB to do another rebuild from the working directory and that one one exacly the same i compared this to the origianal and the only difference I could see was the extra stripped audio tracks

[Furiousflea]

I'm getting a "audio PGC oversize" dialogue box appear after encoding the 2nd m2ts on "Animatrix Bluray" UK version.

-----------------------
[22:24:51] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: ANIMATRIX_WW
- Input BD size: 36.56 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:00:38.348]
- Target BD size: 7.93 GB
[22:24:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:24:51] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [22:25:02] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 37)
[22:28:39]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[22:28:55] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: ANIMATRIX_WW
- Input BD size: 36.56 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:00:38.348]
- Target BD size: 7.93 GB
[22:29:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:29:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [22:29:13] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 37)
- [22:37:34] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- [22:39:14] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 37)

[Status]
LABEL=ANIMATRIX_WW
VERSION=v0.20.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39255041552
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=39155785728
TARGET_SIZE=8514437120
REDUCTION=.214915398568605
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00000]
AUDIO=11000000
PGS=100000001000000001
M2TS_TARGET=454697547
RATE=4576
NSIZE=451928064
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
AUDIO=11111111
PGS=100000001000000001
M2TS_TARGET=79044192

Last CMD

"C:\Video Tools\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BLURAY\BD WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS" --crf 25 --level 4.1 --sar 8:9 --aud --vbv-bufsize 14500 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --bframes 3 --8x8dct --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "D:\BLURAY\BD WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264.stats" --pass 1 --output "D:\BLURAY\BD WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264"

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5214/48875901.gif

(command might show "fastest" encoding on, but I set this just to reproduce the error). System is clean as a whistle and not experienced this error before.

[Furiousflea]

Also I've been experiencing constant problems with Blurays that have 2 video tracks in an m2ts (PIP\video commentry track).

I haven't got any specifics on it I'm sorry but next time I do one I will provide the log.

[Shuttle99]

I'm getting a "audio PGC oversize" dialogue box appear after encoding the 2nd m2ts on "Animatrix Bluray" UK version.

I got this error on about 5 disc's and was about to give up on the backup's on them and then I tried a couple things and sure enough I found a work around.

A very simple one that has worked on all 5 that have given me the error. So now when I load up a folder I can tell before I run the backup and waste the hours that it's going to fail with this error.

I make the change and run the backup and none have given me the error since. Not sure why it works but maybe one of the future versions will fix it.

[GaPony]

Also I've been experiencing constant problems with Blurays that have 2 video tracks in an m2ts (PIP\video commentry track).

I haven't got any specifics on it I'm sorry but next time I do one I will provide the log.

I'm beginning to wonder if something in the program has timed out... Everything has been cookin' along just fine since 20.03 was released, and all of the sudden about 4 people report the same problem, with different movies, in one day...

[smnckl]

Also I've been experiencing constant problems with Blurays that have 2 video tracks in an m2ts (PIP\video commentry track).

I believe that jdobbs had stated that P-I-P was not a priority. Is it possible for you to de-select the second audio track when the mpls listing is displayed before you start the backup?

It is probably possible to find out which track it is using txMuxeR or eac3to.

Just my 2 cents.

[MikeyBK]

Well I just finished Australia last night with 20.03 just fine... just frickin took 13 hours though!!:eek:
I know this is a really long movie... but 13 hours!?!???

[03:29:09] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: AUSTRALIA
- Input BD size: 33.75 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:45:28.960]
- Target BD size: 8.06 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[03:29:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:29:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00013]
- [03:37:32] Reencoding: VID_00013 (1 of 1)
[16:23:46]PHASE ONE complete
[16:23:46]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:23:46] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:29:40] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[16:29:40]JOB: AUSTRALIA completed.

[smnckl]

I'm beginning to wonder if something in the program has timed out... Everything has been cookin' along just fine since 20.03 was released, and all of the sudden about 4 people report the same problem, with different movies, in one day...

It could well be BUT I have not experienced any issues so far -except from those senior moments that strike me every now and then.

I have been rebuilding the Harry Potter set without any issues, and those are VC-1 video tracks.

Have those with problems checked on the Slysoft forums about possible issues with the discs' authoring or maybe BD-Java?

Just my 2 cents.

[smnckl]

@ MikeyBK

Well I just finished Australia last night with 20.03 just fine... just frickin took 13 hours though!!:eek:
I know this is a really long movie... but 13 hours!?!???


I know this is OT but could you tell me whether the disc is worth buying. Is the movie good?

I'll now return you to the regular BD-RB programming. :thanks:\

[MikeyBK]

Yeah, as I posted about doing Australia with 20.03, I haven't had any problems with this version at all, from when it was released til now.
Just was a bit surprised at how long Aystralia took on my system, which usually geta all movies done in the 8 hour range , +/- an hour here or there...
@ MikeyBK



I know this is OT but could you tell me whether the disc is worth buying. Is the movie good?

I'll now return you to the regular BD-RB programming. :thanks:\

I hadn't had the time to set aside for such a long movie yet... well I did but wasn't quite up to it yet, and actually wanted to watch it on my BD-9 for results comparisons...

Will let you know maybe tommorrow... lol

[stef73]

morning guys just got up left bd rebuilder2003 last night with independence day trying to shrink to bd 25 got this error after 100% [08:09:09] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: ID4_F4
- Input BD size: 35.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:48.680]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[08:09:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:09:13] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [08:09:13] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [08:09:22] DoEncoding() 00009 8

any ideas tia :)

[stef73]

im using 8gb ocz 1333 ddr on asus p5e3 deluxe quad core 9300 vista 64 with asus limited edition fan and have also done over 100 blurays all to bd25 and burnt them all back onto traxdata bd-r and or sony bd-re or verbatim bd-re

[colinhunt]

I'm new to BD-RB (just became aware of its existence a couple of days ago) so please bear with me. I read Furiousflea's guide and got the impression I can keep original TrueHD tracks by ticking the "Do not reencode AC3" box. I tested Full Backup with Nikita (US) which has two TrueHD tracks (English and French). I de-selected the English one by double-clicking the track in Stream window and made sure I had ticked the "Do not reencode AC3", then started Backup.

Some 8 hours later and I was testing the output. Wow! Menus work, pop-up works as well... but there's no TrueHD audio - only 448kbps Dolby Digital. Did I do something wrong?

[MikeyBK]

I'm new to BD-RB (just became aware of its existence a couple of days ago) so please bear with me. I read Furiousflea's guide and got the impression I can keep original TrueHD tracks by ticking the "Do not reencode AC3" box. I tested Full Backup with Nikita (US) which has two TrueHD tracks (English and French). I de-selected the English one by double-clicking the track in Stream window and made sure I had ticked the "Do not reencode AC3", then started Backup.

Some 8 hours later and I was testing the output. Wow! Menus work, pop-up works as well... but there's no TrueHD audio - only 448kbps Dolby Digital. Did I do something wrong?

No, nothing went wrong... the 'do not reencode AC3' is if you are retaining an AC3 stream, then you can check that option so that BD-RB doesn't reencode that stream since it's not really needed.
JDobbs has purposely not enabled the abilty to retain TrueHD audio as of yet... he wants to keep the betas without some capabilities to help speed up bug issue fixes if there arises a need.

Anyways, sounds like you got a successful encoding on your first attempt... great job...:)
Also shows how far along BD-RB Is already..

[tekmobile]

I'm new to BD-RB (just became aware of its existence a couple of days ago) so please bear with me. I read Furiousflea's guide and got the impression I can keep original TrueHD tracks by ticking the "Do not reencode AC3" box. I tested Full Backup with Nikita (US) which has two TrueHD tracks (English and French). I de-selected the English one by double-clicking the track in Stream window and made sure I had ticked the "Do not reencode AC3", then started Backup.

Some 8 hours later and I was testing the output. Wow! Menus work, pop-up works as well... but there's no TrueHD audio - only 448kbps Dolby Digital. Did I do something wrong?


No TrueHD & DTS-HD are currently not supported although I have succesfully (works on my player at least) re-encoded a disc with DTS-HD still intact and working by seperatly demuxing the audio track and overwriting the DTS core track that BD-RB demuxed and letting it rebuild

[colinhunt]

No, nothing went wrong... the 'do not reencode AC3' is if you are retaining an AC3 stream, then you can check that option so that BD-RB doesn't reencode that stream since it's not really needed. JDobbs has purposely not enabled the abilty to retain TrueHD audio as of yet... he wants to keep the betas without some capabilities to help speed up bug issue fixes if there arises a need.
OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the info! Here's hoping JDobbs enables THD (and DTS-HD) support soonish.

Anyways, sounds like you got a successful encoding on your first attempt... great job...:)
Also shows how far along BD-RB Is already..
Yeah, it's a lovely piece of software. Made a donation already :D

Here's something I noticed a moment ago: As I disabled the English THD tracks as well as some of the subtitles, the output now lists two audio tracks, both French, and 7 subtitles, all English. The original has 7 subtitles, but they're all different languages.

[colinhunt]

No TrueHD & DTS-HD are currently not supported although I have succesfully (works on my player at least) re-encoded a disc with DTS-HD still intact and working by seperatly demuxing the audio track and overwriting the DTS core track that BD-RB demuxed and letting it rebuild
That's interesting. How did you do the "injection", exactly?

[colinhunt]

Thank you, tekmobile! I'll have to give that approach a try.

[Furiousflea]

I believe that jdobbs had stated that P-I-P was not a priority. Is it possible for you to de-select the second audio track when the mpls listing is displayed before you start the backup?

It is probably possible to find out which track it is using txMuxeR or eac3to.

Just my 2 cents.

The audio track corresponding to the PIP video track has been deselected with same results.

edit - maybe I mis-explained my problem - I'm not expecting the 2nd video track to work! :) Just that the main track plays with audio. A few discs with 2nd video tracks haven't played audio (not just the universal ones where there seems to be a quesion mark of a known problem there). Just reporting my findings, I'm not hounding for 2nd video track support I've learnt my lesson a while back that this is a beta.

[dmusicbest]

Hi, help me Bd Rebuilder 0.20.03 don't work with me.
i have windows xp sp3 with AMD Phenom II X4 920 2,80 hz with 4 GO of memory and an ATI Radéon HD 3600.
I install ffdshow halia media splitter avisynth 2.58 I do ffdshow with mpeg is on and vc1 out
What is the good configuration for audio ffdshow?
I have this message :
Input BD size: 24,09 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:35.718]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
[08:39:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:39:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [08:46:28] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- Bitrate: 25*000 Kbs
- [08:46:28] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:01:45] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:35:44] Video Encode complete
- [14:35:44] Reencoding audio tracks
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00000__4352.WAV]
[14:35:44] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

BD REBUILDER.INF :
VERSION=v0.20.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=25862699414
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=25812510720
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.950659886292533
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
[00000]
AUDIO=10100000
PGS=10100
M2TS_TARGET=22116891436
RATE=25000

anythink what i do the audio is error.
Help me please.

[Furiousflea]

I set a custom disc size 2GB smaller than a BD-25 this can be done by adding "TARGET_SIZE=21450" to the BDREBUILDER.INI file then in the program click the settings menu > options > custom target size (21450MB)

Then just started the encode as normal once BD-RB has extracted the audio/pgs streams for the movie and started doing the 1stpass I opened the movie m2ts in tsmuxerGUI and just selected the english DTS-HD track i wanted, click the demux checkbox and set the output to the workfiles directory of BD-RB this then overwrote the dts file that BD-RB extracted with the dts-hd that i selected.

After BD-RB had finished the encode it then proceeded to rebuild the m2ts file with the DTS-HD track I had demuxed to the workfiles directory did the rest of the disc and rebuilt the disc structure.

When I did this it was just a trial didnt expect it to work but the disc played back on my player with no problems states audio as DTS-HD MSTR everything worked perfect.

There may be more to it but it worked for me because if it was that simple im sure it would have been integrated from the start

TrueHD may be a different matter but only the very latest version of tsmuxer can do TrueHD properly (1.8.30 i believe)

You might have to sit in naughty corner when jdobbs reads this post ;) This would work most likely as DTS\DSTHD\DTSMA share same tag....TrueHD\AC3 share same tag. LPCM does not share same tag as AC3 which it would be encoded to so that wouldn't work at this time.

I'm posting this just so nobody wastes their time trying it with LPCM and please don't report any problems doing this here.

Your on your own

[deank]

They definitely not share the same tag. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1223582#post1223582)

[Furiousflea]

They definitely not share the same tag. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1223582#post1223582)

Well, it works :o

[tekmobile]

You might have to sit in naughty corner when jdobbs reads this post ;) This would work most likely as DTS\DSTHD\DTSMA share same tag....TrueHD\AC3 share same tag. LPCM does not share same tag as AC3 which it would be encoded to so that wouldn't work at this time.

I'm posting this just so nobody wastes their time trying it with LPCM and please don't report any problems doing this here.

Your on your own

Yes its important that if you try this method its at your own risk dont complain to jdobbs if you get errors etc

[tekmobile]

Well, it works :o

What works ?? are you refering to LPCM or DTS-HD/TrueHD

[Furiousflea]

What works ?? are you refering to LPCM or DTS-HD/TrueHD

Feel free to ignore the following, not BD related, just an answer to this question...

DTS\TrueHD both work. If you replace tsmuxer with new version that works with TrueHD. If you go back 10 pages or so you will see that I was looking for a solution that you list and in the end did what your suggesting although I didn't discuss it because jdobbs was getting pretty cheesed off with it all. At the time I was being abit narrow minded and couldn't see his problem as I didn't think there was much potential for it introducing bugs, I still don't. But it's not my forum and I'm not a coder so respect to the author and it being a beta means that I kept it to myself.

I shouldn't really be mentioning it at all. It's obviously going to be implemented at some point. I certainly won't be asking questions on it again.

The weird thing is that I noticed that clpi\playlist files DO get updated properly. Well BDedit reports the audio correctly, and eac3to with various frontends pick up the audio correctly too.

I haven't even tried it with LPCM to be honest because BDRB encodes all LPCM to AC3 so prolly never a good time to switch it since audio coding is done at end of 2nd pass.

I know it might be frowned on but I needed to do something with my ripped discs and I coudn't justify wasting a BD disc on anything but a full movie encode with HD audio.

I do not recommend anyone does this.

[smmonk]

I too have found a problem. After having tried a few editions (everything went fine from the first try), I upgraded to v0.20.03.
This time I tried Spider Man 3, 2 disc edition. I tried target size BD9. As it's orig. size is something like 46GB, I had to dump all audio except the LPCM track. I set resizing to 720P, but I'm afraid I have to say that the quality was really bad. The picture looked very low-res. On the second run I let it stay at 1080pm the other settings ware the same ... and now the picture looked much much better. How is this possible?
Before burning the iso that I created with ImgBurn, I decided to test it with PowerDVD. And that's where I found a strange bug that I haven't found before (although I'm still testing with other films).
Spider Man 3 has got quite a few subs, but the BD9 didn't show all of them correctly. The first two were correct. From the subs 3 to 9 (if I'm correct) the sequence was altered like the third one was put back in line: The third one I could select being Dutch, I selected it for playback and saw Arabic. When selecting Arabic, I saw Hebrew .. (instead of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, it became 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,9,3) while I did select the correct one in the menu. The subtitles 10-15 were correct.

Since I never saw this before, I tried switching back to v0.18.07, but it said 'trial expired' all of a sudden. So I cannot try this movie with an older version anymore.

[GaPony]

Version 19.06 still works... at least for the time being, but that wouldn't be useful from a beta tester standpoint.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs,
I may have missed this if it was mentioned before, so sorry in advance, but how long does each version work/last before expiration?

[datman]

I just encoded Changeling all seemed to go fine except the video stops about 1:49 min into it. The audio still runs all the way to the end correctly while the video is froze at 1:49

[MikeyBK]

I just encoded Changeling all seemed to go fine except the video stops about 1:49 min into it. The audio still runs all the way to the end correctly while the video is froze at 1:49

I did Changeling to a movie-only BD-9 and it played fine. Forget which BD-RB version it was with, gotta look it up in the log, but just wanted to give you feedback that it was fine to a BD-9. What were your settings?

[datman]

I did Changeling to a movie-only BD-9 and it played fine. Forget which BD-RB version it was with, gotta look it up in the log, but just wanted to give you feedback that it was fine to a BD-9. What were your settings?

for all I know this was a W7 error. Many of my problem are in my setup or just lack of understanding some of the little stuff. Many are just glitches and I have half a mind to go back to XP and see how it does

[GaPony]

I just encoded Changeling all seemed to go fine except the video stops about 1:49 min into it. The audio still runs all the way to the end correctly while the video is froze at 1:49

That's happened on two or three movies... Pride & Glory, Saw V, and another one, I think. I tried running them again and everything was back to normal. There were no errors in the log, so I don't know what happened. I place them under my normal category for flaws..... Gremlins.

[smmonk]

Spider Man 3 has got quite a few subs, but the BD9 didn't show all of them correctly. The first two were correct. From the subs 3 to 9 (if I'm correct) the sequence was altered like the third one was put back in line: The third one I could select being Dutch, I selected it for playback and saw Arabic. When selecting Arabic, I saw Hebrew .. (instead of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, it became 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,9,3) while I did select the correct one in the menu. The subtitles 10-15 were correct.

Hmmmm. I did Pursuit Of Happyness and that worked out just fine. But the retry of Spider Man 3 gave the same results (although the new sequence is 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,3 .. from 9-14 was correct).
Any thoughts how this is possible?

[Furiousflea]

You might have to sit in naughty corner when jdobbs reads this post ;) This would work most likely as DTS\DSTHD\DTSMA share same tag....TrueHD\AC3 share same tag. LPCM does not share same tag as AC3 which it would be encoded to so that wouldn't work at this time.

I'm posting this just so nobody wastes their time trying it with LPCM and please don't report any problems doing this here.

Your on your own

Just did a thorough check of this method to inject HD audio and it does NOT work. DTS will appear to be playing, but if you check it will only be normal DTS and not MA. TrueHD won't work at all.

Don't try it.

[Furiousflea]

for all I know this was a W7 error. Many of my problem are in my setup or just lack of understanding some of the little stuff. Many are just glitches and I have half a mind to go back to XP and see how it does

Vista 64 is good with 4GB+ of ram with a few tweaks applied.

W7 is still in beta. I really don't know why anyone is bothering with it.

[tekmobile]

Just did a thorough check of this method to inject HD audio and it does NOT work. DTS will appear to be playing, but if you check it will only be normal DTS and not MA. TrueHD won't work at all.

Don't try it.

Confirmed here too does not work on my standalone only plays DTS core and the clpi file is wrong although I fixed this (maybe) with clpi editor the mpls also states the audio as DTS tried to fix this with BD edit but the disc would then hang loading the movie best to keep using BD-RB as is this will allow for bugs etc to be fixed quicker.

[Sharc]

BD-Rebuilder v0.20.03 / movie only / resize 720p hangs during muxing, after a warning about an Audio/PGS sizing issue has been acknowledged with <continue>:
........
- [10:30:15] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:57:49] Video Encode complete
- [13:57:49] Reencoding audio tracks
- [14:07:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:12:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00007]
- [14:12:21] Collecting video information [00007]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- [14:12:40] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:12:40] Reencoding: VID_00007 (2 of 2)
- [14:12:44] Video Encode complete
- [14:12:44] Reencoding audio tracks
- [14:12:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:12:44] DoEncoding() 00009 8

Added:
Muxing of the files in the BD-RB Working Directory manually with tsMuxer 1.8.30(b) went smoothly though.

[Furiousflea]

Confirmed here too does not work on my standalone only plays DTS core and the clpi file is wrong although I fixed this (maybe) with clpi editor the mpls also states the audio as DTS tried to fix this with BD edit but the disc would then hang loading the movie best to keep using BD-RB as is this will allow for bugs etc to be fixed quicker.

Good call.:)

[tekmobile]

BD-Rebuilder v0.20.03 / movie only / resize 720p hangs during muxing, after a warning about an Audio/PGS sizing issue has been acknowledged with <continue>:
........
- [10:30:15] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:57:49] Video Encode complete
- [13:57:49] Reencoding audio tracks
- [14:07:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:12:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00007]
- [14:12:21] Collecting video information [00007]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- [14:12:40] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:12:40] Reencoding: VID_00007 (2 of 2)
- [14:12:44] Video Encode complete
- [14:12:44] Reencoding audio tracks
- [14:12:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:12:44] DoEncoding() 00009 8

Added:
Muxing of the files in the BD-RB Working Directory manually with tsMuxer 1.8.30(b) went smoothly though.

I had a problem using 1.8.30(b) where skipping chappters always caused the movie to start from the beginging after I went back to the version included with BD-RB everything was good again im going to try 1.8.34(b) to see if it fixes this issue.

[datman]

Vista 64 is good with 4GB+ of ram with a few tweaks applied.

W7 is still in beta. I really don't know why anyone is bothering with it.

well I have one copy of vista 32 that I use on my play back system. W7 was the chance to use a 64bit OS for free. So far it works pretty good some of the screens are cool.

I guess I could buy a copy of vista 64, but others have said XP 32 will run these programs just as good. Before I buy another copy of windows I'm going to try XP on this computer

[Elesias]

I mentioned my troubles when playing backups with my BD35. By the way, these backups play fine with the new LG BD370.

[wiggle]

Got same problem as Sharc, using version v.0.20.03

I get an error while RB Rebuilder is trying to "Integrating new files into BD structure."

An error popup window shows:
---------------------------
BD Rebuilder experienced an error 4 [00:24:10] DoEncoding() 00076 4
---------------------------

The logfile looks as follows:

-----------------------
[00:56:19] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: HOLLYWOOD_LAND
- Input BD size: 37,31 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:06:10.145]
- Target BD size: 23,93 GB
[00:56:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:56:22] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00084]
- [01:10:28] Reencoding: VID_00084 (1 of 1)
[00:07:52]PHASE ONE complete
[00:07:52]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:07:52] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [00:24:10] DoEncoding() 00076 4

----

This was also the first time that my encode was oversized (~380mb).. never had that problem with previous versions of BD Rebuilder.

[edit]
Also unable to close BD Rebuilder after this error.. program doesn't respond to the righttop cross nor the abort button. have to terminate it manually via windows taskmanager

[datman]

That's happened on two or three movies... Pride & Glory, Saw V, and another one, I think. I tried running them again and everything was back to normal. There were no errors in the log, so I don't know what happened. I place them under my normal category for flaws..... Gremlins.

Yep it was a Gremlin. I did it again and it works fine. Thanks for the "heads up" I might not have tried it again.

I have had a couple that had a "failure to encode audio" error and I did try them again and it failed the 2nd time too. I'm waiting for a new version and I'll try them again, might work. So far I have 82 sucessful encodes. I say I'm doing pretty good:D

[GaPony]

Yep it was a Gremlin. I did it again and it works fine. Thanks for the "heads up" I might not have tried it again.

I have had a couple that had a "failure to encode audio" error and I did try them again and it failed the 2nd time too. I'm waiting for a new version and I'll try them again, might work. So far I have 82 sucessful encodes. I say I'm doing pretty good:D

That's the way I do things. I will always try a second time. The first failure is always treated as a Gremlin. If it fails again, I set it aside until the next beta comes out. Eventually, I'll get them all done. :)

[datman]

I have had a couple that had a "failure to encode audio" error and I did try them again and it failed the 2nd time too.

I think it was this film Changeling that twice I tried processing off the fresh rip and both times I had failure to encode audio errors. So then I did the encoding off the tsmuxer-ed file and it worked, took 2 times but it worked

[robinthehood]

Got "DoEncoding() 00009 8" again this time while doing Leon film only to BD25, is it possible for me to rebuild the movie without the troublesome file? BDinfo shows it as 00:00:01 seconds and 24,576 bytes its the final file in the playlist
[16:09:09] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: LEON
- Input BD size: 31.69 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:12:51.380]
- Target BD size: 23.68 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[16:09:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:09:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- [16:17:56] Reencoding: VID_00005 (1 of 8)
- [21:52:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [21:52:59] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 8)
- [22:02:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [22:02:11] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 8)
- [01:09:53] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00008]
- [01:09:53] Reencoding: VID_00008 (4 of 8)
- [03:55:49] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00058]
- [03:55:49] Reencoding: VID_00058 (5 of 8)
- [05:12:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00059]
- [05:12:02] Reencoding: VID_00059 (6 of 8)
- [06:05:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00062]
- [06:05:40] Reencoding: VID_00062 (7 of 8)
- [09:15:39] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00075]
- [09:15:39] Reencoding: VID_00075 (8 of 8)
- [09:15:45] DoEncoding() 00009 8

[Furiousflea]

well I have one copy of vista 32 that I use on my play back system. W7 was the chance to use a 64bit OS for free. So far it works pretty good some of the screens are cool.

I guess I could buy a copy of vista 64, but others have said XP 32 will run these programs just as good. Before I buy another copy of windows I'm going to try XP on this computer

You can upgrade to Vista64 for about £7 mate, worth bearing in mind :)

[kyoshiro378]

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[21:36:41] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: WANTED
- Input BD size: 40.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:01:11.098]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:36:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:36:43] Reencoding: VID_00223 (6 of 32)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:37:14] - Failed video encode, aborted

x264 exits with the runtime error. why this happen? anybody tell me

[datman]

You can upgrade to Vista64 for about £7 mate, worth bearing in mind :)


I have a oem copy and I don't think you can upgrade it

[Furiousflea]

I have a oem copy and I don't think you can upgrade it

You are indeed correct. Tight swines at ms lol. :(

[stef73]

got my copy of vista 64 for £40 so its not that much and that was a year ago

[turbojet]

I mentioned my troubles when playing backups with my BD35. By the way, these backups play fine with the new LG BD370.

Is this full backups or movie only that have no problem on LG BD370?

[tyau]

From my experience, LG players, be it Blu-ray, DVD, or HD-DVD, play everything you throw at them. My LG player is not only capable of playing backup DVD's, it could also play damaged, scrached, or improperly recorded DVD's. Discs that failed to copy half-way due to recorder failure also played fine up to a certain point on the LG player! The same goes for the my Philips and Samsung DVD player.

Although I have no experience with the LG BD370 players, I would not be surprised if the LG BD370 could play different variations of BD backup, be it movie-only or full backup.

[[SLiM]D12]

so i try this program again, for maybe the 10th time, and again a non working rip.

This time it was Pineapple Express, and i put the disc in the PS3 and it just sits there, does nothing. Can't goto menu or anything.......it's rather frustrating wasting all that time on this project for it not to work. What must i do to have them work in my PS3? I've had some that have played, with no audio, but never had one that worked properly thus far...

[Furiousflea]

D12;1265446']so i try this program again, for maybe the 10th time, and again a non working rip.

This time it was Pineapple Express, and i put the disc in the PS3 and it just sits there, does nothing. Can't goto menu or anything.......it's rather frustrating wasting all that time on this project for it not to work. What must i do to have them work in my PS3? I've had some that have played, with no audio, but never had one that worked properly thus far...

Backing up to BD25 or BD9\BD5?

PS3 only plays BD25 with no problems at all.

[[SLiM]D12]

always to BD25. I burn to my BD-RE media, which i know works fine, seeing as i have 4 and i burn full BD discs and watch em with no issues

[GaPony]

D12;1265454']always to BD25. I burn to my BD-RE media, which i know works fine, seeing as i have 4 and i burn full BD discs and watch em with no issues


Watch with what... with no problems?

What do you see on the PS3 menu for representing the disc? Data Disc, BD ROM, AVCHD?

I've got 70-80 full movie backups to BD25 that play perfectly on the PS3. Not a single copy to BD25 has failed to play.

What settings are you using in BD Rebuilder? Are you doing any pre-processing or post-processing with another program?

[GaPony]

From my experience, LG players, be it Blu-ray, DVD, or HD-DVD, play everything you throw at them. My LG player is not only capable of playing backup DVD's, it could also play damaged, scrached, or improperly recorded DVD's. Discs that failed to copy half-way due to recorder failure also played fine up to a certain point on the LG player! The same goes for the my Philips and Samsung DVD player.

Although I have no experience with the LG BD370 players, I would not be surprised if the LG BD370 could play different variations of BD backup, be it movie-only or full backup.

Its impossible to make blanket statements about DVD players compatibility with BD-Rebuilder output based upon brand name alone. his is particularly true when talking making copies to BD9 & BD5 media.

[tyau]

Its impossible to make blanket statements about DVD players compatibility with BD-Rebuilder output based upon brand name alone. his is particularly true when talking making copies to BD9 & BD5 media.

It seems to me that you have a misconception about the term "blanket statement".

When I made a comment about LG BD370, I spoke with reservation, stating clearly that "I wouldn't be surprised if..."

[[SLiM]D12]

Watch with what... with no problems?

What do you see on the PS3 menu for representing the disc? Data Disc, BD ROM, AVCHD?

I've got 70-80 full movie backups to BD25 that play perfectly on the PS3. Not a single copy to BD25 has failed to play.

What settings are you using in BD Rebuilder? Are you doing any pre-processing or post-processing with another program?

I actually see the menu in the PS3 as if it were a bluray disc. I see the same menu as if the BD was inserted.

In BD-RB the settings are all default, all i change is the output size and press backup. No pre/post processing with anything. Just create the image in IMGBURN and go. Normally i can play the resulting image in PDVD and fool around with it. Pineapple Express didn't even work. I see people reporting issues about AnyDVDHD being open, so i'm going to try again with that app closed, and running from an iso with no protection. I'll see what happens..

[pkho]

I just make my first attempt with this wonderful software. Quantum of Solace full movie into BD5. When I drop the index.bdmv into AVCHD Patcher ver 1.05 and 1.06 both comes up with error "This file is not correct format". Only after some more reading I know full movie in BD5 is not suppose to work in PS3 so I gave up looking for solution. But the disc plays fine in HTPC with TMT. No luck with PDVD and WinDVD.

Only problem I found is that since I have resize 1080p to 720P and subtitles must be untouched so they becomes really BIG. Hope there is a fix to this.

I will try Movie Only next time. Is that with "Stricter AVCHD compliance" checked there is no need to run AVCHD Patcher anymore?

[kyoshiro378]

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[19:50:40] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: HELLBOY2_D1
- Input BD size: 41.72 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:29:18.650]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[19:50:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:50:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [19:50:42] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 61)
- [19:52:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [19:52:03] Reencoding: VID_00009 (2 of 61)
- [19:52:47] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00217]
- [19:52:50] Reencoding: VID_00217 (3 of 61)
- [19:55:41] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00220]
- [20:06:59] Reencoding: VID_00220 (4 of 61)
- [04:00:26] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00222]
- [04:00:37] Reencoding: VID_00222 (5 of 61)
- [04:09:16] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00269]
- [04:09:16] Reencoding: VID_00269 (6 of 61)
- [04:18:30] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00277]
- [04:18:33] Reencoding: VID_00277 (7 of 61)
- [04:21:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00278]
- [04:21:06] Reencoding: VID_00278 (8 of 61)
- [04:24:20] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00279]
- [04:24:22] Reencoding: VID_00279 (9 of 61)
- [04:26:30] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00280]
- [04:26:38] Reencoding: VID_00280 (10 of 61)
- [04:29:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00281]
- [04:29:49] Reencoding: VID_00281 (11 of 61)
- [04:31:46] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00282]
- [04:31:48] Reencoding: VID_00282 (12 of 61)
- [04:32:46] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00283]
- [04:32:47] Reencoding: VID_00283 (13 of 61)
- [04:33:18] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00284]
- [04:33:19] Reencoding: VID_00284 (14 of 61)
- [04:34:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00285]
- [04:34:04] Reencoding: VID_00285 (15 of 61)
- [04:34:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00286]
- [04:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00286 (16 of 61)
- [04:35:05] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00287]
- [04:35:06] Reencoding: VID_00287 (17 of 61)
- [04:36:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00288]
- [04:36:12] Reencoding: VID_00288 (18 of 61)
- [04:36:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00289]
- [04:37:09] Reencoding: VID_00289 (19 of 61)
- [04:55:38] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00291]
- [04:55:41] Reencoding: VID_00291 (20 of 61)
- [04:57:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00292]
- [04:57:56] Reencoding: VID_00292 (21 of 61)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
x264.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
why error?what's wrong with x264? anybody help me
anyone can explain to me why is this happened?

[GaPony]

I just make my first attempt with this wonderful software. Quantum of Solace full movie into BD5. When I drop the index.bdmv into AVCHD Patcher ver 1.05 and 1.06 both comes up with error "This file is not correct format". Only after some more reading I know full movie in BD5 is not suppose to work in PS3 so I gave up looking for solution. But the disc plays fine in HTPC with TMT. No luck with PDVD and WinDVD.

Only problem I found is that since I have resize 1080p to 720P and subtitles must be untouched so they becomes really BIG. Hope there is a fix to this.

I will try Movie Only next time. Is that with "Stricter AVCHD compliance" checked there is no need to run AVCHD Patcher anymore?


If a Movie Only is acceptable for your needs, then check the block for "Stricter compliance..." and it should register as an AVCHD on the PS3 and play.

At least for the time being, the PS3 (US Version) only works for full movies if you put them on BD25 discs. Its not a bug in BD-Rebuilder, its the PS3.

[stef73]

Is this full backups or movie only that have no problem on LG BD370?

i got a bd35 because the backups wont play in my ps3 and they all work fine done 80 up to yet :) burning them back with lg ggw h20l

[stef73]

my uk ps3 will not play full movie backups at all with bd rebuilder burnt onto sony and verbatim bd-res just keeps spinning like its wanting to read it but eventually just stops.
its a release 60 gb ps3 and was working with stuff until recently then wont touch either movie only or backups

[laserfan]

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[19:50:40] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: HELLBOY2_D1
...
- [04:55:41] Reencoding: VID_00291 (20 of 61)
- [04:57:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00292]
- [04:57:56] Reencoding: VID_00292 (21 of 61)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
x264.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
why error?what's wrong with x264? anybody help me
anyone can explain to me why is this happened?Can you play 000292.m2ts directly? If not, you have encountered a decoding problem with that particular video and your PC decoder filters, whereby it's feeding junk to x264 and causing it to crash.

[pkho]

Can you play 000292.m2ts directly? If not, you have encountered a decoding problem with that particular video and your PC decoder filters, whereby it's feeding junk to x264 and causing it to crash.

I have several x264 crash before but update ffdshow to the latest fix it for me.

[drmih]

The issue with Hellboy 2 is that some of the extras are in a format that x264 can't handle. There are loads of posts in this thread about it. I got around it by encoding to bd25 and using an minimum encode size which meant the problem extras were copied intact.

[drmih]

This thread must becoming unusable to jdobbs now as there are so many new posters who are highlighting issues that have come up several times over it's 110 page history. You can't really blame people for not being able to find the information they require givens it's length. Are any of the moderators or helpers with this thread capable of creating a known issues sticky, or problem discs and then starting a new bug reporting thread?

[drmih]

I have just tried to do Batman Begins Region B, and found the error with the audio encoding. Interestingly the track it has problems with is not the main audio but a 2 channel one designated AC3+. I therefore did the disc to bd9 and only selected the first audio (multichannel AC3), ignoring the True HD one and the AC3+. Disc completed okay but I have the recurring issue on Sony standalones where the audio isn't selectable.

[Furiousflea]

I have just tried to do Batman Begins Region B, and found the error with the audio encoding. Interestingly the track it has problems with is not the main audio but a 2 channel one designated AC3+. I therefore did the disc to bd9 and only selected the first audio (multichannel AC3), ignoring the True HD one and the AC3+. Disc completed okay but I have the recurring issue on Sony standalones where the audio isn't selectable.

This thing with the audio not being selectable seems to nearly always be when there is a PIP track on the original disc. I think Batman Begins has one too...

There is a rumour that it only affects "Universal" titles, but I call BS on that. I think it's more down to the fact that Universal released nearly all it's new HD DVDs with PIP tracks and then ported them to Bluray. So it's not universal, it's just that there are PIP tracks on all these discs Vs relatively few for studios that were 100% Bluray from the start since the 1st Bluray players didn't even support a PIP track...

Just my assumption....

[smnckl]

This thread must becoming unusable to jdobbs now as there are so many new posters who are highlighting issues that have come up several times over it's 110 page history. You can't really blame people for not being able to find the information they require givens it's length. Are any of the moderators or helpers with this thread capable of creating a known issues sticky, or problem discs and then starting a new bug reporting thread?

Creating a known issues thread would be ideal BUT given the nature of a beta program it would be impossible to maintain as the features change with every new version and what was a bug/feature in one version may/will be corrected in the next.

If I may be so bold as to suggest that those who post questions and/or bug reports follow a set procedure of

Provide proper documentation of their BD-RB configuration in their reports (BD-RB version number, copy of the .INF and .INI files)
Try to give a precise description of the issue, preferably with a copy of the .LOG file

When assistance/suggestions is been received from other users of BD-RB or a new version released by jdobbs is shown to correct the issue, the Original Poster then goes back to his original post and edits the post, adding the necessary information describing how the issue was resolved.

When others - both experienced users and newbies - do a search, they would find the original question/report and the resolution.

Until and unless the forum software is fully threaded by post (like what you find in blogs) I seriously doubt that the moderators or any other person would be able to keep track of every single post and maintain or make it into an FAQ sticky easily.

This is my 2 cents and It is way off topic here. I return you know to your favorite program... BD-ReBuilder. :p

Maybe a :helpful:... Maybe not... :devil:

[GaPony]

You're probably right. In the beginning jdobbs just started us off with considering all issues as bugs. He has probably achieved enough maturity that term "bug" can be more specific.

A known issues thread, locked by the mod, along with a new "Bugs Only" thread is probably a very good idea. I agree that this thread is too long and diverse to be of much use to him.

[turbojet]

I think if jdobbs put in the first post of this thread this thread would be easier to read:
- current decoding workarounds which a lot of the posts in this thread are and aren't even BD-RB bugs
- list of known bugs that he can work on and update the list so hopefully no one else reports
- hidden ini settings and what they do

To begin with this thread was a discussion piece and it's still kind of that way. I'm guilty of this as well, it was the only BD-RB thread to at first. I've also reported a few bugs here as well and I've also tried helping others out with their bugs and workarounds. Reading through the same discussion over and over again could become annoying but luckily there is 'view last unread' as long as you don't get too far behind.

[A.Fenderson]

I've been trying to do a movie-only HD-DVD to BD9 of "12 Monkeys" and can't get the audio right: I followed the guide by Furiousflea (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145024), and BD-Rebuilder seems to run just fine, but the resulting BD9's m2ts file has no audio, though it is larger than the m2ts (which oddly *does* have audio) that is left in the "workfiles" directory created by BD-RB. I considered replacing the m2ts file in the BD9 output structure, but I'm guessing there might be conflicts with metadata contained elsewhere in the BD structure. Any thoughts on why the final shrunken workfile m2ts file plays back just fine, but no audio on the larger m2ts that is part of the proper output?

Also, thanks to jdobbs for letting us test this very useful program and everyone else who is contributing in their respective ways.

[deadfrog]

I encoded wanted, about 40gig to bd25. Full movie rip. Kept dts audio, everything works fine except the movie wont play. all the extras work just as expected, but selecting play or a chapter to start at, it does nothing. Before i try again has anyone had problems with wanted? I have done about 10 other bd25 conversions and they all worked fine. Using 20.03 full movie with extras, there where no errors during the re-encode. Great program btw. Appreciate all the hard work you are putting in this.

[Furiousflea]

I've been trying to do a movie-only HD-DVD to BD9 of "12 Monkeys" and can't get the audio right: I followed the guide by Furiousflea (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145024), and BD-Rebuilder seems to run just fine, but the resulting BD9's m2ts file has no audio, though it is larger than the m2ts (which oddly *does* have audio) that is left in the "workfiles" directory created by BD-RB. I considered replacing the m2ts file in the BD9 output structure, but I'm guessing there might be conflicts with metadata contained elsewhere in the BD structure. Any thoughts on why the final shrunken workfile m2ts file plays back just fine, but no audio on the larger m2ts that is part of the proper output?

Also, thanks to jdobbs for letting us test this very useful program and everyone else who is contributing in their respective ways.

If you open a command prompt in the folder you extracted eac3to (hold shift while right clicking in the folder -> open command prompt here). Type...

eac3to -test

It will tell you what extra bits eac3to has\hasn't got access to. It could be that you are trying to decode an EAC3 to AC3 and the required decoder\encoder isn't there. Check in the EAC3TO thread in the audio forum (1st post) to be sure.

It turns out that you don't actually need to do the audio conversion and can leave it as is - even if EAC3 Reason I put that step in before was because BDRB wasn't picking up EAC3 streams, and technically EAC3 is only supposed to be used on bluray on streams with more than 5.1 channels. But I've seen a few BDs recently with 1\2 channel audio encoded in EAC3 so...It doesn't really matter.

I think that might be your problem, with the audio not playing.

[setarip_old]

@A.Fenderson

Hi!

You might want to check out the following guide [The HD-DVD to BluRay portion] as an alternative:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137151

[DaMacFunkin]

I encoded wanted, about 40gig to bd25. Full movie rip. Kept dts audio, everything works fine except the movie wont play. all the extras work just as expected, but selecting play or a chapter to start at, it does nothing. Before i try again has anyone had problems with wanted? I have done about 10 other bd25 conversions and they all worked fine. Using 20.03 full movie with extras, there where no errors during the re-encode. Great program btw. Appreciate all the hard work you are putting in this.

Ive already posted that Wanted doesn't work a few weeks ago, it seems that there are a few Universal titles that exhibit the exact same behaviour, upto now i aint seen or heard JD reply to the problem....

[DaMacFunkin]

I've been trying to do a movie-only HD-DVD to BD9 of "12 Monkeys" and can't get the audio right: I followed the guide by Furiousflea (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145024), and BD-Rebuilder seems to run just fine, but the resulting BD9's m2ts file has no audio, though it is larger than the m2ts (which oddly *does* have audio) that is left in the "workfiles" directory created by BD-RB. I considered replacing the m2ts file in the BD9 output structure, but I'm guessing there might be conflicts with metadata contained elsewhere in the BD structure. Any thoughts on why the final shrunken workfile m2ts file plays back just fine, but no audio on the larger m2ts that is part of the proper output?

Also, thanks to jdobbs for letting us test this very useful program and everyone else who is contributing in their respective ways.

Dolby Digital + streams in HD DVD are not Blu-ray compliant, on the titles i have done, i used eac3to to extract 6 wav files, then re-encode to 1500kbps DTS with DTS surcode, (this required me to have Nero 7.xx installed) remux back to the video file (note vc-1 files also need to be fixed) then run through BDRB to DVD-9

[A.Fenderson]

Dolby Digital + streams in HD DVD are not Blu-ray compliant, on the titles i have done, i used eac3to to extract 6 wav files, then re-encode to 1500kbps DTS with DTS surcode, (this required me to have Nero 7.xx installed) remux back to the video file (note vc-1 files also need to be fixed) then run through BDRB to DVD-9

Interesting, and thank you for the information/advice--but I used eac3to (with HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829)) to extract the EAC3 stream as AC3: I believe this down-converts it to standard, BD-compliant AC3/DD audio (can someone confirm?). In fact, the audio plays back just fine (via Media Player Classic) on the resulting m2ts workfile after BD-RB has successfully completed, but not at all on the output m2ts file in the BD structure that BD-RB creates as its final step.

[Furiousflea]

Interesting, and thank you for the information/advice--but I used eac3to (with HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829)) to extract the EAC3 stream as AC3: I believe this down-converts it to standard, BD-compliant AC3/DD audio (can someone confirm?). In fact, the audio plays back just fine (via Media Player Classic) on the resulting m2ts workfile after BD-RB has successfully completed, but not at all on the output m2ts file in the BD structure that BD-RB creates as its final step.

I use the exact steps that guy listed. Extract to wavs and encode with DTS Surcode...(surecode is not free). Nero BD\HD DVD plugin is also NOT free. Having Nero (must be version 7) installed is not enough. You have to pay for a serial to use the BD\HD DVD plugin. Also before you think of saving a few quid, there is NO valide keygen that will work to enable BD\HD DVD playback (even though it will say the serial is active, it won't active that Directshow decoding).

I only mention this piracy aspect, to avoid bug reports here. I do not advocate it and have actually purchased the plugin seperately. Think its about £15.

I'm not suggesting you are pirating, just a heads up if you find a brick wall etc.

To verify your extracted AC3 stream is valid, does it load ok when you add it to TSmuxer GUI? Is it listed as AC3.

( AC3+ IS in the Bluray standard. But the standard dictates that it can only be used on surround audio with more than 5.1 channels. However I can tell you 100% that it is actually used on a few of my Blurays as a mono directors commentry track)

So it's very unlikely that is your problem, though I would recommend against using it, as it isn't technically correct and fussy players might stick their tounge out at you.

As I said, just make sure that TSmuxer is showing an AC3 stream, make sure you chose a language or whatever also in the GUI.

Finally, just because your AC3 stream is playable doesn't mean it is valid for bluray...

I think HD DVDs have an AC3 core in the AC3+ track so you shouldn't need anything apart from eac3to....come to think of it? lol

[Furiousflea]

Ive already posted that Wanted doesn't work a few weeks ago, it seems that there are a few Universal titles that exhibit the exact same behaviour, upto now i aint seen or heard JD reply to the problem....

Can you check if this "Wanted" has 2 video tracks for the main movie? Thanks

[jdobbs]

I've been trying to do a movie-only HD-DVD to BD9 of "12 Monkeys" and can't get the audio right: I followed the guide by Furiousflea (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145024), and BD-Rebuilder seems to run just fine, but the resulting BD9's m2ts file has no audio, though it is larger than the m2ts (which oddly *does* have audio) that is left in the "workfiles" directory created by BD-RB. I considered replacing the m2ts file in the BD9 output structure, but I'm guessing there might be conflicts with metadata contained elsewhere in the BD structure. Any thoughts on why the final shrunken workfile m2ts file plays back just fine, but no audio on the larger m2ts that is part of the proper output?

Also, thanks to jdobbs for letting us test this very useful program and everyone else who is contributing in their respective ways.
Yeah, replacing an M2TS causes issues. The CLPI file has vectors into M2TS packets and both the CLPI and MPLS have information related to the makeup of the M2TS.

[DaMacFunkin]

Dolby Digital + streams in HD DVD are not Blu-ray compliant,\(note vc-1 files also need to be fixed)
I know Dolby Digital + is in the Blu-ray stabdard, but i also said that HD DVD dolby digital + isn't Blu-ray compliant ( i didn't feel the need to get technical), as for the original author of this problem, are you sure eac3to is extracting the core dolby digital 5.1? it doesn't sound like it is, also are you fixing your vc-1 stream before muxing (1080i 29.97fps fixed to 23.97 1080p)?

[Furiousflea]

I know Dolby Digital + is in the Blu-ray stabdard, but i also said that HD DVD dolby digital + isn't Blu-ray compliant ( i didn't feel the need to get technical), as for the original author of this problem, are you sure eac3to is extracting the core dolby digital 5.1? it doesn't sound like it is, also are you fixing your vc-1 stream before muxing (1080i 29.97fps fixed to 23.97 1080p)?

You don't need to do this anymore since versions from a couple of months ago ;)

If what your talking about is after you extract the video elementary .vc1 stream then load it in Tsmuxer it shoes as 1080i instead of 1080p?

It was a bug in eac3to, it's in the changelog if you wanna make sure and will save you a bit of time in furure.

Also you can save time by not doing eac3to -> 6 mono wavs -> surecode -> dts audio. The GUI for eac3to doesn't have an option for DTS output but you if you just do it with the command line you can do it in one go...Very easy...

eac3to your_m2ts.m2ts

This will list the streams and more importantly the numbers 1:, 2:, 3: etc. Find the number that corresponds to the audio you want....Then...

eac3to your_m2ts.m2ts 1:\2:\3:...etc then output, in your case just put a .dts at the end....

For example...

eac3to c:\movie\movie.m2ts 4: c:\movie\movie.dts

This would extract the movie audio into wav and then compress with surecode in 1 go.

You can put in other numbers as well in the same command line if you want to demux\encode other tracks at the same time :)

[A.Fenderson]

My thanks and apologies to all: it seems that similarities with an unrelated earlier error on my part--combined with a potentially buggy Media Player Classic--led me to believe the resulting m2ts file was defective as it wouldn't play back audio in MPC: it plays just fine once burned to BD9.

Thanks for all the advice, though: it still helped me to track down the error and to learn about the options and powers that the various programs involved allow me! :)
I'm having lots of fun using BD-Rebuilder. :thanks:

[Furiousflea]

"TimeWasters 101" ;)

[Digi]

Got "DoEncoding() 00009 8" again this time while doing Leon film only to BD25, is it possible for me to rebuild the movie without the troublesome file? BDinfo shows it as 00:00:01 seconds and 24,576 bytes its the final file in the playlist
[16:09:09] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: LEON
- Input BD size: 31.69 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:12:51.380]
- Target BD size: 23.68 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[16:09:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:09:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- [16:17:56] Reencoding: VID_00005 (1 of 8)
- [21:52:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [21:52:59] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 8)
- [22:02:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [22:02:11] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 8)
- [01:09:53] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00008]
- [01:09:53] Reencoding: VID_00008 (4 of 8)
- [03:55:49] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00058]
- [03:55:49] Reencoding: VID_00058 (5 of 8)
- [05:12:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00059]
- [05:12:02] Reencoding: VID_00059 (6 of 8)
- [06:05:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00062]
- [06:05:40] Reencoding: VID_00062 (7 of 8)
- [09:15:39] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00075]
- [09:15:39] Reencoding: VID_00075 (8 of 8)
- [09:15:45] DoEncoding() 00009 8

I have had exactly the same problem today with LEON trying to do a BD9 movie only rebuild log below

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[18:47:37] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: LEON
- Input BD size: 31.69 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:12:51.380]
- Target BD size: 7.96 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[18:47:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:47:37] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- [18:56:50] Collecting video information [00005]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 6,465 Kbs
- [18:56:50] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:32:57] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:27:58] Video Encode complete
- [00:27:58] Reencoding audio tracks
- [00:41:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:42:51] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [00:42:51] Collecting video information [00006]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 6,591 Kbs
- [00:42:51] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:45:11] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:51:01] Video Encode complete
- [00:51:01] Reencoding audio tracks
- [00:51:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:51:04] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [00:51:04] Collecting video information [00002]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 6,468 Kbs
- [00:51:04] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:40:40] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:39:13] Video Encode complete
- [04:39:13] Reencoding audio tracks
- [04:39:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:40:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00008]
- [04:40:02] Collecting video information [00008]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 6,466 Kbs
- [04:40:02] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:22:19] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:07:36] Video Encode complete
- [07:07:36] Reencoding audio tracks
- [07:07:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:08:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00058]
- [07:08:09] Collecting video information [00058]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 6,476 Kbs
- [07:08:09] Reencoding: VID_00058, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:27:33] Reencoding: VID_00058, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:15:58] Video Encode complete
- [08:15:58] Reencoding audio tracks
- [08:15:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:16:16] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00059]
- [08:16:16] Collecting video information [00059]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 6,482 Kbs
- [08:16:16] Reencoding: VID_00059, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:29:26] Reencoding: VID_00059, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:02:31] Video Encode complete
- [09:02:31] Reencoding audio tracks
- [09:02:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:02:43] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00062]
- [09:02:43] Collecting video information [00062]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 6,347 Kbs
- [09:02:43] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:00:23] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:20:47] Video Encode complete
- [12:20:47] Reencoding audio tracks
- [12:20:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:21:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00075]
- [12:21:48] Collecting video information [00075]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 37 Kbs
- [12:21:48] Reencoding: VID_00075, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:21:52] Reencoding: VID_00075, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:21:53] Video Encode complete
- [12:21:53] Reencoding audio tracks
- [12:21:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:21:54] DoEncoding() 00009 8

[massiah]

I tried to convert "WAR" for the past few days with as a full and movie only backup.
Both come back with the same error.

I am using the latest version BD-Rebuilder - v0.20.03beta.
I do not want to roll back to a prior release.

I have backed up up other movies with this version and others without a problem(except WANTED(had to do movie only) and AMERICAN GANGSTER).

Here is the log:

-----------------------
[01:45:24] BD Rebuilder v0.20.03 (beta)
- Source: WAR
- Input BD size: 25.11 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:00.215]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[01:45:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:45:27] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- [02:01:32] Reencoding: VID_00005 (1 of 1)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00005__4352.WAV]
[11:18:38] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

Any help is appreciated.

And this is a great program by the way. Thanks, jddobbs!!!

[drmih]

I have to say that the programme has been hugely successful so far but there are two or three reoccuring issues which seem to becoming more and more prominent. I wonder if there are workable solutions of whether jdobbs has an idea of how to address them.

I see them as:

1) Failed to reencode audio, aborted - this is obviously an external issue with the conversion of certain types
2) DoEncoding() - can't copy the original streams to recreate an image
3) Missing audio selection on standalones (seemingly put down to pip)
4) the vc1 m2ts extra files which x264 won't handle - assuming there isn't an easy fix would it be possible to select which streams to re-encode and then recalculate the size (using the min-encode size works but is too broadbrush if the problem extra is the largest one).

[jdobbs]

Sorry about the lack of updates recently. I've been really busy with other things the past couple of weeks.

I just updated the first post of this thread with a link to an updated version of BD-RB. Changes for this version:

- Corrected an error in which timing adjustments on
certain files may not have the PTS updated
correctly on LPCM streams.
- Added an option to SETUP to keep HD audio streams
intact (for BD25 encoding only).
- Extended the timeout of the beta. Since I haven't
had a lot of spare time lately, I want to make
sure the program doesn't timeout for anyone between
version releases. The timeout is NOT meant to limit
use but instead to keep me from having to readdress
the same bugs over-and-over.
- Made several changes to accommodate naming
convention in newer versions of TSMUXER.
- Updated X264 to version r1130. Includes several
speed improvements.
- Fixed an error related to pass reporting on certain
types of encodes.
- Reduced the default target size for BD-25. The new
setting of 24450 was too large for BD-RB (which has
a limit of 23098).
- Added setting of the CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE as an option
in the SETUP dialog.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[jdobbs]

I have to say that the programme has been hugely successful so far but there are two or three reoccuring issues which seem to becoming more and more prominent. I wonder if there are workable solutions of whether jdobbs has an idea of how to address them.

I see them as:

1) Failed to reencode audio, aborted - this is obviously an external issue with the conversion of certain types
2) DoEncoding() - can't copy the original streams to recreate an image
3) Missing audio selection on standalones (seemingly put down to pip)
4) the vc1 m2ts extra files which x264 won't handle - assuming there isn't an easy fix would it be possible to select which streams to re-encode and then recalculate the size (using the min-encode size works but is too broadbrush if the problem extra is the largest one). Anything can be fixed, none of this is especially difficult. In fact I think BD backups are considerably less complicated than DVDs (albeit slower). But you have to have the time -- and I haven't lately. #4, however, may take some thought. When doing BD-25 I can simply keep the original intact (since these are usually smaller files), but for BD-5/9 it won't work because the bitrate is too high. BTW, the issue is ONLY the mixed progressive/interlaced sources, and they are very rare. Those who are having other issues with VC-1 aren't following the recommendations for using WMV11.

[drmih]

Thanks for everything. I just wanted to pick out the reoccuring errors as the amount of post from people with 1 or 2 total posts to date regarding the same problem, every page or two, is bloating the thread.

[jdobbs]

Understood. :)

[drmih]

jdobbs

Just a quick one - I've just replaced it with the latest version and am trying to do a restart at the rebuild stage (to see if it may get around the DoRebuild error). However, whereas I could do this with the previous version the new one wants to start from scratch. I have tried the old inf file, and even tried to reproduce all of the settings in a new one but no joy. No great problem, it was just to save a few hours wasted time if it fails.

[jdobbs]

I can't think of any changes made that would cause it to not recognize the same parameters... if the previous version would resume, this one should too.

[tyau]

- Added an option to SETUP to keep HD audio streams
intact (for BD25 encoding only).

This is an awesome feature. Not just for BD-25 recording, but also great for people who want to store a compressed ISO of the BD-25 on their harddrive for backup for viewing on a computer.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs:
It is good to hear from you, it has been awhile, and thanks for your continued efforts to improve this great software you've developed! I have looked but can't seem to find the way to not reencode certain m2ts files, but to leave them as original and just copy them to the new project. What is the correct wording and location to put this to force BD-RB to not reencode a M2TS file? ( is it something like MIN_M2TS_SIZE...., and just below [Options] in the configuration settings or does it need to be placed in a specific location? ) Does the size of the M2TS files need to be in kb's or mb's? Though I have not needed to use this for any specific backup or file, it would be nice to understand the proper method and procedure just in case.

[Jake802]

Thanks! For another release JDobbs.I'm starting Punisher: War Zone now! Let you know how it goes
Very excited to have HD Audio!

[HWK]

@ Jdobbs

It's nice to have you back. Welcome back! :) I know somebody already said this but I think keep HD Audio should be greyed out if target size is not BD25. So people won't complain about poor quality on other media size.

Also do you still accept donation via mail.

[SilverBlade]

- Added an option to SETUP to keep HD audio streams intact (for BD25 encoding only).

This is a much welcomed feature. I for sure will be getting this program, once BD-R Media and burners become affordable enough.

[HWK]

[01:37:01] BD Rebuilder v0.20.04 (beta)
- Source: HORTON
- Input BD size: 37.12 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:32:20.814]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[01:37:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:37:07] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00013]
- [02:12:23] Collecting video information [00013]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 17,148 Kbs
- [02:12:24] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[02:13:24] - Failed video encode, aborted

BD Rebuilder Setup Information

[Status]
LABEL=HORTON
VERSION=v0.20.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39856742853
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=38132754432
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.587244743070754
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00013]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=1111111
M2TS_TARGET=15620551112
RATE=17148

LASTCMD

"D:\Documents and Settings\----\My Documents\BD-RBV02004\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "X:\HORTON\WORKFILES\VID_00013.AVS" --bitrate 17148 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 0 --me dia --bframes 3 --direct auto --weightb --partitions none --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "X:\HORTON\WORKFILES\VID_00013.AVS.264.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL

BD Rebuilder Option

[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=F:\
WORKING_PATH=X:\HORTON\
------------------------------
Also if option to encode extras is set to quick, it fails to encode video as well. As usual setting is same for the rest of it.
------------------------------

It fails on pass 1 of encoding. I can play "VID_00013.AVS" file in Windows Media Player and Nero Show time. Which doesn't have any sound but video plays fine. Also Anydvd is using it's default setting.

It is new project. In other words no resume from old one.

:thanks:

Let me know if you need something else related to it.

[HWK]

I was using same setting as above post. This time movie only.

I got this.

[02:49:01] BD Rebuilder v0.20.04 (beta)
- Source: HORTON
- Input BD size: 24.77 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:26:10.456]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[02:49:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:49:03] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00013]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[02:49:04] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[robinthehood]

@Shuttle99, Thank You :), Had the same error and found a work around that worked for me had a few others do the same error. This is what I did and has worked 100% on all that gave me that error.
When I open the folder in BD Rebuilder I noticed there is an extra video file showing up under the audio so what ever file it was for eg 0002 I moved the file to another folder temporarily and told BD Rebuilder to open the folder again and now that extra file is not there, now click backup and you will get an erro "to be expected" in the BD log on the screen. Move that file back to where it came from and do not rescan the folder again and just click backup again and let it go. I've done this on about 5 so far and all work great. Not sure why it has worked but it has.
Not sure how you came up with that but it worked for me on Blindness will have a go with Leon later tonight

[jdobbs]

@ Jdobbs

It's nice to have you back. Welcome back! :) I know somebody already said this but I think keep HD Audio should be greyed out if target size is not BD25. So people won't complain about poor quality on other media size.

Also do you still accept donation via mail. It won't give them poor quality on other targets, because it will be ignored.

[liquidskin76]

Added an option to SETUP to keep HD audio streams intact (for BD25 encoding only).[/code]

Great stuff. Can't wait to test.

Does this also include uncompressed LPCM, or is just TrueHD and DTS-HD MA?

Thanks

[HALL9000]

VERBATIM, MEMOREX, TDK, MAXELL BD-R 25 GB
Free Space: 25 025 314 816 bytes

BD-RE have less capacity, but this can be fix :
Start Imgburn -> Tools -> Settings -> "Write tab" -> "Prefer format without spare areas"

[BlackJack1]

BD-RE 24 220 008 448 bytes
BD-R 25 025 314 816 bytes

and my concert 25 074 234 720 bytes :(
Can I fit it on BD-R any way...?

[jdobbs]

Great stuff. Can't wait to test.

Does this also include uncompressed LPCM, or is just TrueHD and DTS-HD MA?

Thanks Any limitations would be those associated with TSMUXER. So if you follow those rules/limitations you should be ok. I have tried the new version of BD-RB with TSMUXER v1.8.4 thru v1.8.35 and they all work correctly. Please note, though, that only v1.8.4 has been extensively tested against multiple sources.

[jdobbs]

BD-RE 24 220 008 448 bytes
BD-R 25 025 314 816 bytes

and my concert 25 074 234 720 bytes :(
Can I fit it on BD-R any way...? I lowered the default output target size for BD-25 for that very reason on the most recent release. BD-RE is smaller than BD-R. Are you using a specified target size, or did you get that size from one of the defaults?

I wouldn't count on a good write with a source that is larger than the target disc. You could replace one of the audio streams with a smaller one (after some manual processing) and rebuild to a smaller size.

[wiggle]

Question.. why is --vbv-maxrate 35000 used by BD Rebuilder? Seems kinda weird/useless/unnecessary to have a bitrate peak limit.

[klas]

Any limitations would be those associated with TSMUXER. So if you follow those rules/limitations you should be ok. I have tried the new version of BD-RB with TSMUXER v1.8.4 thru v1.8.35 and they all work correctly. Please note, though, that only v1.8.4 has been extensively tested against multiple sources.


With Arcsoft Totalmedia Theatre 3 Platinum Dolby Tru-HD does not sound if the remux I was done with tsmuxer 1.8.4 and it if heard with 1.8.35.

[Furiousflea]

Question.. why is --vbv-maxrate 35000 used by BD Rebuilder? Seems kinda weird/useless/unnecessary to have a bitrate peak limit.

Because the Bluray video standard has a peak limit....:p

[jdobbs]

Question.. why is --vbv-maxrate 35000 used by BD Rebuilder? Seems kinda weird/useless/unnecessary to have a bitrate peak limit.
Incorrect. Look at the standard.

I would say you should get more informed before making such weird/useless/unnecessary statements.

[Furiousflea]

Thanks for adding HD audio retention jdobbs. Big :thanks:!!!

I've tried a few encodes today but 2 or the 3 I've tried have resulred in "encoding failed" during 1st pass analysis of main move (h264 encoded material)...

Tried replacing the x264 exe for an older one from 20.xx3 release but same results.

Happens on 28 Weeks Later and 300

Haven't included log as the error is just the generic "encoding failed, retrying...encoding failed retrying....."...Then failed again and automatically aborts in 1st pass.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for adding HD audio retention jdobbs. Big :thanks:!!!

I've tried a few encodes today but 2 or the 3 I've tried have resulred in "encoding failed" during 1st pass analysis of main move (h264 encoded material)...

Tried replacing the x264 exe for an older one from 20.xx3 release but same results.



Haven't included log as the error is just the generic "encoding failed, retrying...encoding failed retrying....."...Then failed again and automatically aborts in 1st pass. Try opening the AVS files with MPC and see what's happening. I haven't had any issues with the new version(s) -- but there are more things in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in my philosophy.

[HWK]

Is MPC Media Player Classic. I had same thing happening encoding failed. Retry. Also like I stated in previous post I can play AVS file with media player.

[HWK]

@ Furiousflea

Does same thing happen when you enable option "quicker, encode for extras"

[jdobbs]

Is MPC Media Player Classic. I had same thing happening encoding failed. Retry. Also like I stated in previous post I can play AVS file with media player. Try running the command line from LASTCMD.TXT (in the BD_REBUILDER directory) from the a DOS window. It should tell you what error X264 is sensing.

[HWK]

@ jdobbs

Could beta version of Anydvd cause problem. Even though it is only removing AACS and BD+ from my disc. I can also play entire movie stream in windows media player with help of ffdshow.

[tekmobile]

Any limitations would be those associated with TSMUXER. So if you follow those rules/limitations you should be ok. I have tried the new version of BD-RB with TSMUXER v1.8.4 thru v1.8.35 and they all work correctly. Please note, though, that only v1.8.4 has been extensively tested against multiple sources.

I have been using tsmuxer 1.8.34 on the previous build with no issues but for some reason 1.8.30 caused problems with chapter skipping and 1.8.35 just failed I think it was during the mux process but cannot remember now

thanks

[jdobbs]

I have been using tsmuxer 1.8.34 on the previous build with no issues but for some reason 1.8.30 caused problems with chapter skipping and 1.8.35 just failed I think it was during the mux process but cannot remember now

thanks
Use whichever one you trust... but make sure it supports muxing the HD stream you are keeping. I just can't keep up with the TSMUXER updates and how reliable they are... the TSMUXER thread seems to be all over the place. (hmm... sounds familiar)

[tekmobile]

Use whichever one you trust... but make sure it supports muxing the HD stream you are keeping. I just can't keep up with the TSMUXER updates and how reliable they are... the TSMUXER thread seems to be all over the place. (hmm... sounds familiar)

I am doing just a heads up for other people that may experience issues with some of the later versions afaik 1.8.34 works for both DTS-HD MA and TrueHD although im not sure about LPCM and correctly creates the clpi file without needing to be fixed so for now im sticking with this one as ive done quite a few rebuilds with this version and never experienced a problem so far

[HWK]

Is "LASTCMD" case senstive contents.

[wiggle]

Incorrect. Look at the standard.

I would say you should get more informed before making such weird/useless/unnecessary statements.

This is me trying to understand :)
Sorry for confusing choice of words, I want to learn/understand why this peak limit is used?

[HWK]

@ Jdobbs

Encoder is working fine from command line. Here are three screen shots taken at different intervals.

I created batch file and ran that instead.

[Furiousflea]

@ Furiousflea

Does same thing happen when you enable option "quicker, encode for extras"

No, I'm not encoding extras anyway as I have min m2ts switch set on so I can preserve 60fps interlaced playback on my interlaced extras.

Try opening the AVS files with MPC and see what's happening. I haven't had any issues with the new version(s) -- but there are more things in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in my philosophy.

Will try this, thanks.

[HWK]

After restart it fails with batch file and bd rebuilder itself.

Anaylze only upto first 150 frame. Before error occurs.

Gone try with command line.

Never mind, As long as "LASTCMD" batch file remain in bd rebuilder.exe directory it works and no crash. You have to only put batch file inside rebuilder directory once every restart and run after that you can put anywhere and run it.

Screenshot given

[jdobbs]

After restart it fails with batch file and bd rebuilder itself.

Anaylze only upto first 150 frame. Before error occurs.

Gone try with command line.Batch file? Do you mean the command line from LASTCMD.TXT?

[HWK]

Yes I copy all the contents of LASTCMD.TXT to batch file and run batch file instead.

Contents of my batch file know

@echo off
cls

"D:\Documents and Settings\Haris\My Documents\BD-RBV02004\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\TEMP\WORKFILES\VID_00013.AVS" --bitrate 17148 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 0 --me dia --bframes 3 --direct auto --weightb --partitions none --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "D:\TEMP\WORKFILES\VID_00013.AVS.264.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL

pause

Batch file has exactly same content of LASTCMD.txt

[HWK]

I start to see pattern, After computer restart or start up. The batch file must run at least once within BD rebuilder directory where BD_Rebuilder.exe reside. Once it has run you can encode within BD rebuilder as well then. As long as you don't shutdown or restart computer.

If I don't BD rebuilder fails and command line doesn't work either.

Something like this come up "encode failed, retry". Message come up.

Also I only anaylze first 2000 frame with batch file.Then close batch file. Which in return works in BD rebuilder after and complete encode with in bd rebuilder.

* This tricks also work for movie only mode. Where before it couldn't extract subs and audio before.

[HWK]

Thanks for adding HD audio retention jdobbs. Big :thanks:!!!

I've tried a few encodes today but 2 or the 3 I've tried have resulred in "encoding failed" during 1st pass analysis of main move (h264 encoded material)...

Tried replacing the x264 exe for an older one from 20.xx3 release but same results.



Haven't included log as the error is just the generic "encoding failed, retrying...encoding failed retrying....."...Then failed again and automatically aborts in 1st pass.

I was having same problem. Try what I did in post #2259. Just make sure you replace batch contents with your own "LASTCMD".txt contents. Run within BD_rebuilder directory where main exectuable of BD rebuilder reside.

[jdobbs]

I start to see pattern, After computer restart or start up. The batch file must run at least once within BD rebuilder directory where BD_Rebuilder.exe reside. Once it has run you can encode within BD rebuilder as well then. As long as you don't shutdown or restart computer.

If I don't BD rebuilder fails and command line doesn't work either.

Something like this come up "encode failed, retry". Message come up.

Also I only anaylze first 2000 frame with batch file.Then close batch file. Which in return works in BD rebuilder after and complete encode with in bd rebuilder.

* This tricks also work for movie only mode. Where before it couldn't extract subs and audio before.???? What I need to find out is "Why is it doing this?"

[HWK]

???? What I need to find out is "Why is it doing this?"


I have no idea. But I will see what I can find out by running in command line.

Jdobbs does it do samething on your machine.

[Furiousflea]

Bug Report :)

(A genuine one lol)

Checkout this image and the highlited bits. As you can see the audio is seen as 60 thousand odd seconds because it is trying to encode an TrueHD audio stream (instead of the core as it would if HD audio wasn't kept).

jdobbs I think you need to deactivate the process of forcing an encode of EVERYTHING when keeping HD audio.

I got around this by replacing the offending TrueHD audio stream with the extracted core and then at the final stage of BD-Rebuilding the bluray structure, cancelled it and swapped the proper TrueHD track back in.

This was for "The Godfathe Part I". I got some pretty nasty oversize on this, output was 24.1GB!!!

I'm doing it again with output set to 22550....

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9701/99503206.png

[Capsbackup]

No, I'm not encoding extras anyway as I have min m2ts switch set on so I can preserve 60fps interlaced playback on my interlaced extras.
Can someone who has used this option be kind enough to share the proper location and exact wording on how to use this "do not reencode" certain size .m2ts files. Does BD-RB reencode the .m2ts files regardless of the size, but only mux the original files above what the setting size is? What is the proper "syntax" needed to use this switch?
Thanks.

[Furiousflea]

Can someone who has used this option be kind enough to share the proper location and exact wording on how to use this "do not reencode" certain size .m2ts files. Does BD-RB reencode the .m2ts files regardless of the size, but only mux the original files above what the setting size is? What is the proper "syntax" needed to use this switch?
Thanks.

Read the changelog.txt ;)

...Specifically, notes for v20.04 :)

To answer your question, basically anything below the minimum size is copied over "untouched" by BD-Rebuilder. It's a botch job way of selecting stuff to not encode and isn't practical with blurays with "extra" m2ts's of a large size. I'm not sure if you are aware but it is also helpful as a dirty workaround to avoid the crashing of x264 on hybrid vc1 interlaced\progrssive mix material which is occassionally found on extras but never on the main movie.

[Capsbackup]

Read the changelog.txt

@Furiousflea:
OK thanks, senior moment I guess, which seems to happen more frequently now days. All this reading back page after page of all these posts, and it was short and quick in the changelog. :confused:
:thanks:

[jdobbs]

Bug Report :)

(A genuine one lol)

Checkout this image and the highlited bits. As you can see the audio is seen as 60 thousand odd seconds because it is trying to encode an TrueHD audio stream (instead of the core as it would if HD audio wasn't kept).

jdobbs I think you need to deactivate the process of forcing an encode of EVERYTHING when keeping HD audio.

I got around this by replacing the offending TrueHD audio stream with the extracted core and then at the final stage of BD-Rebuilding the bluray structure, cancelled it and swapped the proper TrueHD track back in.

This was for "The Godfathe Part I". I got some pretty nasty oversize on this, output was 24.1GB!!!

I'm doing it again with output set to 22550....

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9701/99503206.png Good point. I guess I need to disable reencoding of audio when it is being kept intact. I was keeping the encoding going on purpose -- but I guess I need to rethink that.

[jdobbs]

Read the changelog.txt ;)

...Specifically, notes for v20.04 :)

To answer your question, basically anything below the minimum size is copied over "untouched" by BD-Rebuilder. It's a botch job way of selecting stuff to not encode and isn't practical with blurays with "extra" m2ts's of a large size. I'm not sure if you are aware but it is also helpful as a dirty workaround to avoid the crashing of x264 on hybrid vc1 interlaced\progrssive mix material which is occassionally found on extras but never on the main movie. The real intent of the option is to avoid wasted time reencoding portions of a disc that are just too insignificant to worry about... but it can be used for other purposes as well.

[Furiousflea]

The real intent of the option is to avoid wasted time reencoding portions of a disc that are just too insignificant to worry about... but it can be used for other purposes as well.

Sorry, yes I meant within the context of his question. Didn't mean to misinform although I can see how it sounded reading it back. :)

[turbojet]

jdobbs did you notice the workaround by using BDSup2Sub for the 720p sup problem I reported a while back?

[ds9delta]

Many Many Many :thanks: For HD Audio This Is Awesome!
I Do Have A Question However You Mentioned That HD Audio Selection Is Restricted To BD-25 (Which I Fully Support By The Way) However Does HD Audio Selection Still Work With Custom Size? I Do All My Titles Do BD-25 However I Always Use Custom Size For I Like To Have A GB Or So Margin For Error (Specially On Some Cheaper Media LOL) Anyways That's My Question Will HD Audio Still Work Under Custom Size? And Thanks Again!!:):):):):)

[Furiousflea]

Many Many Many :thanks: For HD Audio This Is Awesome!
I Do Have A Question However You Mentioned That HD Audio Selection Is Restricted To BD-25 (Which I Fully Support By The Way) However Does HD Audio Selection Still Work With Custom Size? I Do All My Titles Do BD-25 However I Always Use Custom Size For I Like To Have A GB Or So Margin For Error (Specially On Some Cheaper Media LOL) Anyways That's My Question Will HD Audio Still Work Under Custom Size? And Thanks Again!!:):):):):)

yes ;)

[ds9delta]

Many Many Many :thanks: For HD Audio This Is Awesome!
I Do Have A Question However You Mentioned That HD Audio Selection Is Restricted To BD-25 (Which I Fully Support By The Way) However Does HD Audio Selection Still Work With Custom Size? I Do All My Titles Do BD-25 However I Always Use Custom Size For I Like To Have A GB Or So Margin For Error (Specially On Some Cheaper Media LOL) Anyways That's My Question Will HD Audio Still Work Under Custom Size? And Thanks Again!!:):):):):)

BD Rebuilder Failed To Encode Matrix Revolutions Region B On HD Audio Aften Froze (ROCK SOLID!) I Had To Task Manager End Process On The Command Window Then BDRB Reported... ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) I Must Agree With A Previous Suggestion That We Eliminate Aften (Audio Encoding In General) From BDRB's (Gene Pool) For The Next Version. And Again Thanks Jdobbs For A Fantastic Prog!:)

[Furiousflea]

BD Rebuilder Failed To Encode Matrix Revolutions Region B On HD Audio Aften Froze (ROCK SOLID!) I Had To Task Manager End Process On The Command Window Then BDRB Reported... ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) I Must Agree With A Previous Suggestion That We Eliminate Aften (Audio Encoding In General) From BDRB's (Gene Pool) For The Next Version. And Again Thanks Jdobbs For A Fantastic Prog!:)

I take it you are referring to my post a few up from this with the images embedded in the post. This is correct, there is a work around however.

1. Cancel the encoding at the aften\dosbox stage.

2. Use Tsmuxer to extract the "core" 640k 5.1 track from the TrueHD stream, rename the old TrueHD stream adding -orig at the end of it.

3. Place the 640k extracted stream in BD-RB work folder and continue the encode.

5. Once it has "completed" everything go back to your work folder and delete the 640k stream you placed there and rename the TrueHD track back to it's original name (so it has the same name as the 640k stream, deleting the -orig suffix you added).

6. Press backup again, chose to continue where you left off.

7. BD-RB will now just do the rebuilding stage and include the TrueHD stream as it should.


...As a side note, Aften HASN'T frozen ;) It will just be encoding junk though, and most likely take a HOURS to encode the junk due to the massive file size. I know this because last night I waited an hour and it was still on the aften encoding screen. But this morning I set a new encode to go over night with a TrueHD track and that had processed "succsessfully" by BD-RB.

...more just an FYI that last bit, that it will finish, but a complete waste of time obviously. jdobbs is aware and I'm sure he will release a new version shortly to not do the encoding of the TrueHD streams when HD audio retention is selected.

[BlackJack1]

Newest ver BD-Re tried to reencode MAN_ON_FIRE to fit 25Gb BD-RE disc.
This is my first contact with this application.
After 18 hours of work did not finish the job.
I've got dts file, a few ac3 files, sup and two meta files and folder TMP with BD structure.
What to do now?

AUD_00002.meta
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
A_DTS, "M:\HD\MAN_ON_FIRE\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", track=4352, lang=eng, mplsFile=00001
A_AC3, "M:\HD\MAN_ON_FIRE\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", track=4360, lang=pol, mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "M:\HD\MAN_ON_FIRE\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", fps=23.976, track=4633, lang=pol, mplsFile=00001


MUX_00002.meta
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "P:\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS


BD-REBUILDER.LOG
-----------------------
[15:16:27] BD Rebuilder v0.20.04 (beta)
- Source: MAN_ON_FIRE
- Input BD size: 37,19 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:26:07.842]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[15:16:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:16:27] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [15:27:50] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 1)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
[09:44:59] - Failed to build structure, aborted


BDREBUILDER.INF
[Status]
LABEL=MAN_ON_FIRE
VERSION=v0.20.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39931920384
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=39931920384
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.615775724371433
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;pol;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=pol;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=4
[00002]
AUDIO=10000000100
PGS=000000000000000000000000010000
M2TS_TARGET=24589107200
RATE=16360


Thx in advance for help.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread for a new version (v0.20.05). Changes for this version:

- Changed the processing so that audio encoding is
not done when intact audio selections are made.
This should correct errors caused by attempts to
use nicaudio/aften against HD sources.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[jdobbs]

@BlackJack1

Are the streams you are keeping HD audio?

[massiah]

I've updated the first post of this thread for a new version (v0.20.05). Changes for this version:

- Changed the processing so that audio encoding is
not done when intact audio selections are made.
This should correct errors caused by attempts to
use nicaudio/aften against HD sources.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Thanks, jddobbs!

Now I will try to do WAR again and post the results,tomorrow.
Should take about 7 hours.

I have a Q9650 Quad Core and 8GB RAM running Vista 64.
I have some 9600GT cards in there right now am about to change them out to some GTX 295s as soon as the UPS guy gets here today.

So...I don't want to start encoding yet.

[Furiousflea]

Newest ver BD-Re tried to reencode MAN_ON_FIRE to fit 25Gb BD-RE disc.
This is my first contact with this application.
After 18 hours of work did not finish the job.
I've got dts file, a few ac3 files, sup and two meta files and folder TMP with BD structure.
What to do now?

AUD_00002.meta


MUX_00002.meta


BD-REBUILDER.LOG


BDREBUILDER.INF


Thx in advance for help.

Looks suspiciously like you've ran out of hard drive space...

Could be wrong though?

[Furiousflea]

I've updated the first post of this thread for a new version (v0.20.05). Changes for this version:

- Changed the processing so that audio encoding is
not done when intact audio selections are made.
This should correct errors caused by attempts to
use nicaudio/aften against HD sources.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Thanks jdobbs!:)

[BlackJack1]

@BlackJack1

Are the streams you are keeping HD audio?

Yes. DTS-HD MA English and DD Polish.

[BlackJack1]

Looks suspiciously like you've ran out of hard drive space...

Could be wrong though?

Maybe...
And what to do now?

[unixman2]

This is a much welcomed feature. I for sure will be getting this program, once BD-R Media and burners become affordable enough.

I think these items are pretty affordable now, but I know for the masses the pricess have to get way down to DVD type prices.

Google is your friend. A 6x BD-R/2x BD-RE combo burner by LG you can get for $199.99 from newegg.com, but the sales ends today.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136155


As for BD-R 25GB single sided discs, the cheapest I've found is about $3.29 each (I've seen them slightly cheaper at times). Obviously not as cheap as DVD media, but look at the capacity vs DVD-9. I get mine from mediamegamall.com
but pay a 20 cents more so that I can have the inkjet printable ones. These are Optical Quantum 2x and have had no issues playing back on my PS3 and not one coaster yet...knock on wood!

http://www.mediamegamall.com/bluray-bdr-c-29_139_1224.html?gclid=CKvomLbkqZkCFQUWGgod3XAdpw

Maybe we should start some type of "Deals on Blu-ray media and Burners" thread or maybe added to the guides for sources of media.

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi!

I have a problem with "The Prestige", German version.

Full Backup to BD25.

I get english audio, when choosing german, and german audio when choosing spanish. Its the same, when choose language via menu oder via PowerDVD directly.

In BD-RB 20.03 and 20.05 the same behaviour.

For the main movie the audio settings are:
[x]AUD_001 AC3 MuliCh Eng
[x]AUD_002 AC3 2-Ch Eng
[ ]AUD_003 AC3 MuliCh French
[ ]AUD_004 AC3 MuliCh Spanish
[x]AUD_005 AC3 MuliCh German

The INF File:
[Status]
LABEL=THE_PRESTIGE
VERSION=v0.20.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=26405903888
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=26299072512
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.912975794604326
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
COMPLETED=4
[00000]
AUDIO=11001
PGS=11111111111
M2TS_TARGET=13983072736
RATE=17346
NSIZE=19724752896
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00005]
AUDIO=11111
PGS=11111111111
M2TS_TARGET=3619399020
RATE=20749
NSIZE=3560620032
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00015]
AUDIO=11111
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=97983659
RATE=6277
NSIZE=98273280
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00032]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=153162572
RATE=3644
NSIZE=128004096
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


Settings file
[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
#AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
TARGET_SIZE=23000
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
#MIN_M2TS_SIZE=60
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23000
#KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\_BD_REBUILDER_TEMP\


Bye

[Furiousflea]

Maybe...
And what to do now?

Make sure that is your problem (remember when rebuilding BD-Rebuilder can need anywhere up to 25-30GB spare room during the rebuild phase).

...Ummmmm...Uninstall some games lol?

[StanHardy]

I got the same problem with Man on Fire as BlackJack1, it seems as though it was a poorly mastered encode, because if you cut the last few mins of credits of, and rerun it though bdrb it works perfectly

[GaPony]

I think these items are pretty affordable now, but I know for the masses the pricess have to get way down to DVD type prices.

Google is your friend. A 6x BD-R/2x BD-RE combo burner by LG you can get for $199.99 from newegg.com, but the sales ends today.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136155


As for BD-R 25GB single sided discs, the cheapest I've found is about $3.29 each (I've seen them slightly cheaper at times). Obviously not as cheap as DVD media, but look at the capacity vs DVD-9. I get mine from mediamegamall.com
but pay a 20 cents more so that I can have the inkjet printable ones. These are Optical Quantum 2x and have had no issues playing back on my PS3 and not one coaster yet...knock on wood!

http://www.mediamegamall.com/bluray-bdr-c-29_139_1224.html?gclid=CKvomLbkqZkCFQUWGgod3XAdpw

Maybe we should start some type of "Deals on Blu-ray media and Burners" thread or maybe added to the guides for sources of media.

It looks like you're in the catbird's seat. Just copy your post into a new thread. I'm sure it will be useful.

[osm]

Is anyone else having an issue like this?

I may change "Stricter AVCHD compliance" to include the 8.3 filenames and Level 4.0 (instead of 4.1) just to see if it has an impact.

Tried to backup "Into the Wild" on a BD25.

Plays fine with my PC, my Samsung BD-P1400, and no picture on my Panasonic BD35 (sound is good though).
Used v0.20.03, High Quality, Stricter AVCHD compliance, and Trellis Algorithm. Looks like I still have trouble with VC1 encoded video streams...

Using V0.20.04 tried Bolt and Transformers.
The BD-RB finished successfully but it wont play on Panasonic BD35

Menu is O.K and the sound is O.K, but there is no picture.
Works perfectly on the PC and on Sony 350 .

[BlackJack1]

I got the same problem with Man on Fire as BlackJack1, it seems as though it was a poorly mastered encode, because if you cut the last few mins of credits of, and rerun it though bdrb it works perfectly

Are you cutting credits first using tsMuxer? And save it as blu-ray structure or m2ts file?

[jr08toy]

I've backed up about 12 movies thus far and this program has been great. Lately, I've been getting a lot of x264 crashes either at the beginning or at the end when it's trying to rebuild everything. Are my settings wrong or something? I'm not going to claim to know a bunch about this whole process but I have been following here for a while and have been trying to learn as much as I can. This is what BDRB looks like after crash:

[20:55:58] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: 300
- Input BD size: 32.42 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:03:37.619]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[20:56:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:56:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [20:56:53] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 2,629 Kbs
- [20:56:53] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:00:38] - Failed video encode, aborted

Settings are:
[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
TARGET_SIZE=7910
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\USERS\JOSH\DESKTOP\300\
WORKING_PATH=C:\WORKING\

Last Command:
"C:\BDRB\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\WORKING\WORKFILES\VID_00004.AVS" --bitrate 2629 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --vbv-bufsize 14500 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me dia --bframes 3 --direct auto --weightb --partitions none --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "C:\WORKING\WORKFILES\VID_00004.AVS.264.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong, other than being a big noob?

Thanks all...

[jewish]

I've backed up about 12 movies thus far and this program has been great. Lately, I've been getting a lot of x264 crashes either at the beginning or at the end when it's trying to rebuild everything. Are my settings wrong or something? I'm not going to claim to know a bunch about this whole process but I have been following here for a while and have been trying to learn as much as I can. This is what BDRB looks like after crash:

[20:55:58] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: 300
- Input BD size: 32.42 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:03:37.619]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[20:56:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:56:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [20:56:53] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 2,629 Kbs
- [20:56:53] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:00:38] - Failed video encode, aborted


Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong, other than being a big noob?

Thanks all...

HI jr08toy.

Try changing H.264 in ffdsow to ffmpeg-mt from libavcodec and retry from start.

[jr08toy]

it won't let me. it's libavcodec or disabled for options. I'm using rev2787 20090317. Is there a newer version I should be using?

[jewish]

it won't let me. it's libavcodec or disabled for options. I'm using rev2787 20090317. Is there a newer version I should be using?

Yes mate.

Get the latest version here
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ffdshow

[jr08toy]

thanks!:)

[massiah]

Alright...
I installed the new update and tried to reencode WAR and I get the same thing:

Here is the Command Window output:

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

Found PCM audio: 8 channels, 48000 Hz, 16 bits, 6180.220000 seconds.
Warning: WAV file will be larger than 4 GB.
Writing WAV file...
input format: Microsoft WAVE Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz multi-channel
Unsupported # of channels passed to aften_wav_chmask_to_acmod
mismatch in channels, acmod, and lfe params
Error: Could not write to the standard output.

Movie only/BD-25 Keeping HD/Trellis disabled/Quicker encode for extras/ENG on both language options


Any clues?

[jr08toy]

Yes mate.

Get the latest version here
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ffdshow

@jewish
changed setting and ran again. x264 crash again at the same spot as before. Any other ideas...?

[jewish]

@jewish
changed setting and ran again. x264 crash again at the same spot as before. Any other ideas...?

Hi jr08toy,

I had the same kind of problems.

So what i did was REMOVE ALL CODECS FROM MY SYSTEM. REBOOTED. INSTALLED ONLY FFDSHOW , AVISYNTH V 258, AND HALI SPLITTER.

I`ve now had no errors at all and all working fine.

I`m running vista ultimate 32 bit.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards.

[Furiousflea]

BUG...

I'm doing a backup of Pirates of The Carribean, keeping HD audio. In this case LPCM. Here is a copy of my AUD_00001.meta file for 00001.m2ts (which will contain the main movie).

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
A_LPCM, "D:\BLURAY\PIRATES1_DEU\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng
A_AC3, "D:\BLURAY\PIRATES1_DEU\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BLURAY\PIRATES1_DEU\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BLURAY\PIRATES1_DEU\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4609, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BLURAY\PIRATES1_DEU\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4614, lang=eng

Which is correct, however here is the contents of MUX_00001.meta...

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\BLURAY\BD WORK 2\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "D:\BLURAY\BD WORK 2\WORKFILES\AUD_00001_4352.AC3", lang=eng
A_AC3, "D:\BLURAY\BD WORK 2\WORKFILES\00001.track_4353.AC3", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BLURAY\BD WORK 2\WORKFILES\00001.track_4608.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BLURAY\BD WORK 2\WORKFILES\00001.track_4609.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BLURAY\BD WORK 2\WORKFILES\00001.track_4614.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng


Which is incorrect, it looks like the HD audio retention switch hasn't worked as when I open the 00001.m2ts, instead of an LPCM track I am greeted by a 448k AC3 5.1 track. I have double checked and HD audio was selected, the same behaviour was exhibited on the sequel Pirates of The Carribean 2.

The only thing that I did that might not be considered "normal", was to cancel the encode on the 1st pass and restart it from where it left off (after demuxing).

EDIT

I think I might have found why this is happening...and the bug is quite simple...

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9229/82321741.png

If you look here, you can see 2 m2ts files. The 1st one in view is an EXTRA. The 2nd is the main movie m2ts, BD-Rebuilder is treating this 1st one in view as part of the main movie I suspect because it is over a certain size. But it IS an EXTRA. I can tell BD-Rebuilder is treating it as an extra because it is doing a 2pass encode on it when I have "quicker encoding for extras" turned on which should be 1pass. Also the m2ts's before this one that aren't visible in the screenshot were all encoded with 1pass as they should be. There is NO LPCM audio in this 1st one in view, so I suspect BD-Rebuilder is using the statistics of the extra's m2ts streams as the base for remuxing, and also as a base for setting the overall bitrate of the REAL main movie m2ts with this false assumption that the the audio streams are same.

This shouldn't be too hard to correct as the bad juju that is happening is purely a knock on effect from the incorrect assumption that this 6GB extra is part of the main movie?

[Lif3styl3]

Hi,

i've found an issue reencoding the blu ray der ewige gärtner.

I'Ve done a move only backup using the following settings:
[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=gmh;goh;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DOCUMENTS\DVDFAB\ISO\GAERTNER\
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\GAERTNER\

-----------------------
[06:15:52] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: GAERTNER
- Input BD size: 29,21 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:29.743]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[06:15:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [06:15:52] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [06:20:57] Reencoding: VID_00003 (1 of 2)
- [17:47:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- [19:05:38] Reencoding: VID_00005 (2 of 2)
- [19:05:42] DoEncoding() 00009 8

This Problem always occurs, when using movie only backup which consits out of more than one movie file.
Same movie works fine when using DVD Size as target Size

[drmih]

Can someone give me an idea about the error:

CorrectMPLS() 00009 5

I have just done Mummy Returns Region B to bd-9 full disc and right at the very end I get this.

I can't see anything obviously missing in the structure.

[drmih]

Not doing too well today. I have done The Devil Wears Prada and everything was fine and I burned a bd-9. I played it on a standalone and thought I might have a disc fault as about half way throught the film the pictures freezes but the audio continues. I checked the image on the hard disc and that was the same, but as expected the original and rip were fine.

[unixman2]

This is my first shot at using the newest BDRB (v0.20.05) with the HD audio support. I've read the latest posts here and even though others are having issues, I haven't seen anyone say they have made a working rebuild with HD audio that plays back on a PS3 or standalone play. (sorry PC playback doesn't count and I saw jdobbs post were he stated that he's tested the new version of BDRB without any issues)

I played back my rebuild of Traitor, movie only and there was no audio with the PS3 in LPCM mode and in Bitstream mode audio was very very choppy (audio cuts out/in) but video played properly. I haven't had any previous issues with HD audio with rebuilt movies on a BD-R 25 disk using other methods.

I did a quick rebuild with quality=5, kept the HD audio intack and output was set for BD-R 25. I created an iso file, mounted and played the rebuild movie using PowerDVD v. 7 and audio played fine showing True-HD. (no errors during the rebuild process)

I will run another quick render with BDRB using a movie with TrueHD that works just fine in the PS3 and I will also consider checking the AVCHD option this time around.

If anyone has any other ideas, I'm all ears.

Thanks in advance.

[Furiousflea]

I've just done my jap import of Phantom Of The Opera (full disc) retaining TrueHD....I get no audio, but video\subtitles work fine.

I'm just burning my "The Godfather Part I" which also has a TrueHD track and will edit this post with the results...

I have a nasty feeling TrueHD isn't working properly due to the version of Tsmuxer being used to remux at the rebuild stage.

EDIT UPDATE

TrueHD DOES NOT WORK.

Phantom Of The Opera - no TrueHD
The Godfather Part I - no TrueHD, commentry track plays fine though. There was no commentry track on Phantom Of The Opera but I assume it would be fine and the problem is only TrueHD audio

Will try a remux with a different version of Tsmuxer as I'm sure the one BDRB is using doesn't work with TrueHD.

[tekmobile]

I've just done my jap import of Phantom Of The Opera (full disc) retaining TrueHD....I get no audio, but video\subtitles work fine.

I'm just burning my "The Godfather Part I" which also has a TrueHD track and will edit this post with the results...

I have a nasty feeling TrueHD isn't working properly due to the version of Tsmuxer being used to remux at the rebuild stage.

EDIT UPDATE



Will try a remux with a different version of Tsmuxer as I'm sure the one BDRB is using doesn't work with TrueHD.

The one that comes with BD-RB does not work with TrueHD I use version 1.8.34 without issues on my standalone

[massiah]

I downloaded the new TsMuxer and will try WAR...again... movie only and see what happens...

[Capsbackup]

I have just tested Iron Man, NTSC, with keep HD audio, which is Dolby True HD, and there is no audio heard on playback on my Sony BDP-BX1. When I click display on the remote of this Sony, it shows Dolby Digital 2/0. BDInfo shows Dolby True HD as does TsMuxer. All the menu and extras have audio playback, but none of these are HD audio. However, the audio does playback fine on my computers Liteon Blue ray player, as well as my Dell laptops BD-RE. Just not the Sony standalone.

[tekmobile]

I have just tested Iron Man, NTSC, with keep HD audio, which is Dolby True HD, and there is no audio heard on playback on my Sony BDP-BX1. When I click display on the remote of this Sony, it shows Dolby Digital 2/0. BDInfo shows Dolby True HD as does TsMuxer. All the menu and extras have audio playback, but none of these are HD audio. However, the audio does playback fine on my computers Liteon Blue ray player, as well as my Dell laptops BD-RE. Just not the Sony standalone.

Did you replace the version of tsmuxer because the one included does not work correctly with TrueHD i use 1.8.34 but 1.8.35 is the latest but ive not tested that version with the latest build

[Furiousflea]

Did you replace the version of tsmuxer because the one included does not work correctly with TrueHD i use 1.8.34 but 1.8.35 is the latest but ive not tested that version with the latest build

Cheers Tekmobile...

I was just coming back to me computer to say that 1.8.35 fixes the TrueHD problem and you have already done it lol.

jdobbs, looks like your going to have to include a few different versions of Tsmuxer with BD-Rebuilder depending on audio type\target because I hear the newer versions fix some things and mess around with others (namely playback on the panasonic BD35).

Tekmobile, have you had been having any success with LPCM\DTSMA etc? Thanx :)

[Furiousflea]

I have just tested Iron Man, NTSC, with keep HD audio, which is Dolby True HD, and there is no audio heard on playback on my Sony BDP-BX1. When I click display on the remote of this Sony, it shows Dolby Digital 2/0. BDInfo shows Dolby True HD as does TsMuxer. All the menu and extras have audio playback, but none of these are HD audio. However, the audio does playback fine on my computers Liteon Blue ray player, as well as my Dell laptops BD-RE. Just not the Sony standalone.

It's definately the version of tsmuxer that is the problem. Download the latest one .34\.35, open the original m2ts (unprocessed) in tsmuxerGIU and extract the TrueHD track, close tsmuxerGUI and open it again, open the compressed m2ts in tsmuxerGUI, remove the offending TrueHD track, add the freshly extracted one and save it as an m2ts and replace the m2ts in your encoded copy.

edit - make sure you change the language code to "eng" after you have swapped the audio tracks in tsmuxer before saving as m2ts output. Also make sure you name the m2ts the same as the original (00004.m2ts) in my case for example.

Should sort it.

[mpiper]

Tried BD-Rebuilder with the BD of The Transporter. Got an "Error 3." Below is the Log. I've closed and restarted to see if it would work after a reboot. Still no luck.

Any Ideas?

-----------------------
[01:45:14] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: TRANSPORTER
- Input BD size: 22.38 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:52:08.513]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
[01:45:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:45:14] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [01:47:52] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 5,388 Kbs
- [01:47:52] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:31:14] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:59:36] Video Encode complete
- [05:59:36] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:05:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:09:06] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [06:09:10] Collecting video information [00003]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- [06:09:10] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:09:10] Reencoding: VID_00003 (2 of 19)
- [06:11:56] Video Encode complete
- [06:11:56] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:11:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:12:15] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [06:12:18] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- [06:12:18] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:12:18] Reencoding: VID_00004 (3 of 19)
- [06:14:35] Video Encode complete
- [06:14:35] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:14:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:14:49] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00030]
- [06:14:51] Collecting video information [00030]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,588 Kbs
- [06:14:51] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:16:29] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:18:51] Video Encode complete
- [06:18:51] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:18:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:18:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00031]
- [06:19:00] Collecting video information [00031]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,610 Kbs
- [06:19:00] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:21:29] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:24:52] Video Encode complete
- [06:24:52] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:24:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:24:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00032]
- [06:25:01] Collecting video information [00032]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,701 Kbs
- [06:25:01] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:26:03] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:27:29] Video Encode complete
- [06:27:29] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:27:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:27:32] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00033]
- [06:27:35] Collecting video information [00033]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,562 Kbs
- [06:27:35] Reencoding: VID_00033, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:30:18] Reencoding: VID_00033, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:33:52] Video Encode complete
- [06:33:52] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:33:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:33:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00034]
- [06:34:03] Collecting video information [00034]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,870 Kbs
- [06:34:03] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:36:53] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:40:58] Video Encode complete
- [06:40:58] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:41:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:41:05] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00035]
- [06:41:07] Collecting video information [00035]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,954 Kbs
- [06:41:08] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:43:01] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:45:56] Video Encode complete
- [06:45:56] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:46:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:46:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00036]
- [06:46:05] Collecting video information [00036]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,770 Kbs
- [06:46:05] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:49:04] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:53:16] Video Encode complete
- [06:53:16] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:53:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:53:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00037]
- [06:53:24] Collecting video information [00037]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,455 Kbs
- [06:53:24] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:56:04] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:59:47] Video Encode complete
- [06:59:47] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:59:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:59:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00038]
- [06:59:56] Collecting video information [00038]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,450 Kbs
- [06:59:56] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:01:16] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:03:07] Video Encode complete
- [07:03:07] Reencoding audio tracks
- [07:03:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:03:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00040]
- [07:03:11] Collecting video information [00040]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 2,992 Kbs
- [07:03:11] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:03:23] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:03:35] Video Encode complete
- [07:03:35] Reencoding audio tracks
- [07:03:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:03:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00041]
- [07:03:35] Collecting video information [00041]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 6,246 Kbs
- [07:03:35] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:03:47] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:03:59] Video Encode complete
- [07:03:59] Reencoding audio tracks
- [07:03:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:04:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00042]
- [07:04:00] Collecting video information [00042]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 3,660 Kbs
- [07:04:00] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:04:11] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:04:22] Video Encode complete
- [07:04:22] Reencoding audio tracks
- [07:04:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:04:23] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00044]
- [07:04:23] Collecting video information [00044]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 3,258 Kbs
- [07:04:23] Reencoding: VID_00044, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:04:34] Reencoding: VID_00044, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:04:45] Video Encode complete
- [07:04:45] Reencoding audio tracks
- [07:04:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:04:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00045]
- [07:04:46] Collecting video information [00045]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 5,005 Kbs
- [07:04:46] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:04:57] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:05:08] Video Encode complete
- [07:05:08] Reencoding audio tracks
- [07:05:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:05:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00046]
- [07:05:09] Collecting video information [00046]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 4,308 Kbs
- [07:05:09] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:05:20] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:05:32] Video Encode complete
- [07:05:32] Reencoding audio tracks
- [07:05:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:05:32] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00047]
- [07:05:33] Collecting video information [00047]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 4,662 Kbs
- [07:05:33] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:05:44] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:05:55] Video Encode complete
- [07:05:55] Reencoding audio tracks
- [07:05:55] Multiplexing M2TS
[07:05:56]PHASE ONE complete
[07:05:56]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:05:56] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [07:05:57] DoEncoding() 00005 3
-----------------------
[19:03:49] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: TRANSPORTER
- Input BD size: 22.38 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:52:08.513]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[19:03:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[19:03:54]PHASE ONE complete
[19:03:54]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:03:54] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [19:04:42] DoEncoding() 00005 3
-----------------------
[19:13:49] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: TRANSPORTER
- Input BD size: 22.38 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:52:08.513]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[19:13:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[19:13:52]PHASE ONE complete
[19:13:52]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:13:52] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [19:13:55] DoEncoding() 00005 3

[san mateo]

Not doing too well today. I have done The Devil Wears Prada and everything was fine and I burned a bd-9. I played it on a standalone and thought I might have a disc fault as about half way throught the film the pictures freezes but the audio continues. I checked the image on the hard disc and that was the same, but as expected the original and rip were fine.
Me too.The same error exactly. I don't remember what version I used, 0203 probably, but I'm not sure. I'll retry with the latest beta.

[Furiousflea]

Me too.The same error exactly. I don't remember what version I used, 0203 probably, but I'm not sure. I'll retry with the latest beta.

Don't report bugs with old versions, it's pointless.

[Furiousflea]

LPCM audio is DEFINATELY NOT retained as it should be.

I did my Pirates of the carribean 1 Bluray again to double check, BD-RB is still doing the rencoding of audio phase at the end and I'm left with 448k AC3 5.1 audio in the resulting output instead of LPCM.

ALSO...

EAC3TO reports all output from BD-Rebuilder has having 29.975 frames per second and it reports that the frame rate doesn't match the timestamp. I don't know if this is a "problem" just letting you know.

[Capsbackup]

@tekmobile:
Did you replace the version of tsmuxer because the one included does not work correctly with TrueHD i use 1.8.34 but 1.8.35 is the latest but ive not tested that version with the latest build
Just tried a rebuild of the same project but swapped out the tsmuxer included in BD-RBV02005 with tsMuxeR_1.8.35(b) and burned to BD-RE and audio plays back now. I could not tell which tsmuxer is included with BD-RBV2005, but the file size was 194kb versus 200kb for 1.8.35(b).

[dreamk]

I dont know sure if this is bug related or should be in "feature request" thread, but i run out of disc space just in final moments of encoding (overall progress was already in 94%), well that resulted BD-Rebuilder to freeze/crash.

Time when above happened BD-Rebuilder was doing "Multiplexing M2TS file...".

Should DB-Rebuilder recover from situation like this or not?

This was second movie i was encoding and first one worked fine so overall i think DB-Rebuilder works in my computer like it should be.

[massiah]

SAme thing with the new reencode on WAR.

Question?:

Should I just drop the new tsmuxer application file into the tools folder?
Include the tsMuxer GUI as well?
Place them somewhere else?

Thanks, for any help in advance...

[san mateo]

Don't report bugs with old versions, it's pointless.
Sorry.

Anyway, wiht the latest beta, it happend the same: video frozen in a particular frame, and audio playing fine all over the entire feature.

I check the scripts and al of them are fine:

Rebuiler log:
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[02:43:05] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: DEVILWEARSPRADAF1
- Input BD size: 32,68 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:49:24.391]
- Target BD size: 8,11 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[02:43:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:43:05] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [03:00:13] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
[09:29:20]PHASE ONE complete
[09:29:20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:29:20] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[09:36:35] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:36:35]JOB: DEVILWEARSPRADAF1 completed.

Rebuilder inf:
[Status]
LABEL=DEVILWEARSPRADAF1
VERSION=v0.20.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=35085582336
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=35085582336
TARGET_SIZE=8703180800
REDUCTION=.248055760245142
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1010000
PGS=1011100000000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=8703180800
RATE=8368
NSIZE=6550898688
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


Mux meta:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:03:27.707;00:04:37.193;00:10:00.558;00:11:50.334;00:14:55.811;00:18:05.626;00:19:45.976;00:21:49.725;00:24:29.426;00:27:21.431;00:30:20.193;00:34:43.790;00:38:11.080;00:40:19.792;00:43:28.439;00:45:12.584;00:48:22.774;00:54:20.465;00:57:19.978;01:00:52.523;01:06:46.711;01:09:50.060;01:12:54.578;01:17:34.483;01:20:04.007;01:23:33.299;01:26:07.245;01:28:29.929;01:31:40.411;01:35:25.177;01:39:27.878;01:41:32.878;01:42:39.236;01:43:55.395;01:45:20.314;01:49:24.140 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "P:\11111111111\BLU\WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "P:\11111111111\BLU\WORK\WORKFILES\AUD_00000_4352.AC3", lang=eng
A_AC3, "P:\11111111111\BLU\WORK\WORKFILES\AUD_00000_4354.AC3", lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "P:\11111111111\BLU\WORK\WORKFILES\00000.track_4608.SUP", fps=23.976, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "P:\11111111111\BLU\WORK\WORKFILES\00000.track_4610.SUP", fps=23.976, lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "P:\11111111111\BLU\WORK\WORKFILES\00000.track_4611.SUP", fps=23.976, lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "P:\11111111111\BLU\WORK\WORKFILES\00000.track_4612.SUP", fps=23.976, lang=spa

The movie are in one single m2ts (the first, 00000).
So I'll do this: with TSMuxer I'll make a new blu ray with movie only, and then BD Rebuilder to compress the new
structure.

Maybe that way the compression are fine, after all.

I'll keep you informed.

[Capsbackup]

@massiah:
Should I just drop the new tsmuxer application file into the tools folder?
Include the tsMuxer GUI as well?
I just renamed tsmuxer that came with BD-RB2005, and placed the latest tsmuxer in the tools folder where the original is located. Then BD-RB will just use the new one. You do not need the GUI with BD-RB since BD-RB makes it's own call to tsmuxer. If you need to go back to the old version of tsmuxer, you will still have it available and only have to change the name back.

[Capsbackup]

I have now had my second success with keep HD audio for bd-25, this time Quantum of Solace, NTSC. This was DTS-HD Master Audio, and playback on my Sony BDP-BX1 was excellent. Now I am not sure my aging ears can tell the difference, but BDinfo and TsMuxer say it's there, so just wanted to report it here. :)
Another BIG thanks jdobbs, as you continue to improve your program. Despite the occasional bug reports, my success rate remains quite high. :thanks:

[pkho]

First time I try to make BD25 full disc using latest version 20.05. Bluray is Barbra Streisand live in concert 2006. After about 25 hours it is done without crash. But picture is all very bright and grainny when playback from harddisk so I have not burn to BD yet. I have done some full disc and movie only to DVD-R before with previous version of the software and looking good. Is that a known bug or I have done something wrong? I see nothing I can change in the program to screw it. BTW the original rip playback just fine.

[massiah]

@massiah:

I just renamed tsmuxer that came with BD-RB2005, and placed the latest tsmuxer in the tools folder where the original is located. Then BD-RB will just use the new one. You do not need the GUI with BD-RB since BD-RB makes it's own call to tsmuxer. If you need to go back to the old version of tsmuxer, you will still have it available and only have to change the name back.


Thanks Caps...
I will try that and reencode later tonight.

[tekmobile]

Cheers Tekmobile...

I was just coming back to me computer to say that 1.8.35 fixes the TrueHD problem and you have already done it lol.

jdobbs, looks like your going to have to include a few different versions of Tsmuxer with BD-Rebuilder depending on audio type\target because I hear the newer versions fix some things and mess around with others (namely playback on the panasonic BD35).

Tekmobile, have you had been having any success with LPCM\DTSMA etc? Thanx :)

I havnt really had time to play about with the latest version much I tried the dark knight but ran into an error during the rebuild process.

The full encode went flawlessly and multiplexing the m2ts also went fine then it started copying the unchanged files from the origanal but as soon as it got to copying 00007.m2ts (the movie) which was the only one i ReEncoded because the extras were only 5GB in total it instantly failed with an error im trying it again now because I started this disc with version 20.04 and replaced this with 20.05 after the 1st pass was done although this shouldnt make a difference.

When ive done this ill try a LPCM and DTS-HD MA movie

[Furiousflea]

I havnt really had time to play about with the latest version much I tried the dark knight but ran into an error during the rebuild process.

The full encode went flawlessly and multiplexing the m2ts also went fine then it started copying the unchanged files from the origanal but as soon as it got to copying 00007.m2ts (the movie) which was the only one i ReEncoded because the extras were only 5GB in total it instantly failed with an error im trying it again now because I started this disc with version 20.04 and replaced this with 20.05 after the 1st pass was done although this shouldnt make a difference.

When ive done this ill try a LPCM and DTS-HD MA movie

Cheers dude :)

Although after some more research I'm quite sure it will fail. BD-Rebuilder still tries to do the re-encoding of audio at the end (it encodes the LPCM track with aften). So I assume jdobbs has forgotten to remove that step as he did from version .04-.05 for TrueHD. Haven't tried DTSMA yet myself either.

I'm not sure if you're up to speed but I read in the Bluray\HD DVD Authoring forum that the latest tsmuxer has won't mux DTSHD lossy audio properly (NOT DTSMA) and it can't be bitstreamed correctly.

[Furiousflea]

Thanks Caps...
I will try that and reencode later tonight.

Not sure if that was in reference to my post. I was giving instructions on how to fix an already finished encode without having to redo it :)

[Furiousflea]

First time I try to make BD25 full disc using latest version 20.05. Bluray is Barbra Streisand live in concert 2006. After about 25 hours it is done without crash. But picture is all very bright and grainny when playback from harddisk so I have not burn to BD yet. I have done some full disc and movie only to DVD-R before with previous version of the software and looking good. Is that a known bug or I have done something wrong? I see nothing I can change in the program to screw it. BTW the original rip playback just fine.

"All bright and grainy"

This could mean a lot of things.

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs, you might want to remove the minimum m2ts size that gets encoded that is imposed on BD25 encodes. Just came up against a quirk as a result of it.

I am encoding the Bluray "Rent". The extras on the disc are all encoded in MPEG-2. When I run it through BD-Rebuilder it obviously spits out MPEG-4. The problem is that there are mpls playlists that reference to both the MPEG-4 encoded parts that are over a certain size (I'm guessing your limit is 100mb), and the ones which are under that size which are still in MPEG-2 format copied untouched.

I don't know if this would cause a problem or not on playback but I did load the disc through EAC3TO and it complains about this and I suspect it would have playback problems on most standalone players?

Maybe a removal of the limit altogether? Or an analysis to see what m2ts are referenced\linked in an mpls playlist so that they are all encoded?

For all I know it might not be a problem at all...Can 2 different video codecs exist on the same track across a single MPLS file? I suspect not...

[tekmobile]

For all I know it might not be a problem at all...Can 2 different video codecs exist on the same track across a single MPLS file? I suspect not...

No you can't use 2 different codecs on the same track within a playlist they must be all AVC or all MPEG2

It would be a good idea (it may already do) if BD-Rebuilder read the MPLS files to determine which m2ts files need to be encoded and which can be ignored because ive ran across this before with seamless branched discs where some sections of the playlist were ignored and I had to change the MIN_M2TS value as for all parts to be re encoded

I just loaded the playlist into BD-Info to determine a safe minimum value

I believe if you set the MIN_M2TS value really low such as 1 it would re encode every file

[Furiousflea]

No you can't use 2 different codecs on the same track within a playlist they must be all AVC or all MPEG2

It would be a good idea (it may already do) if BD-Rebuilder read the MPLS files to determine which m2ts files need to be encoded and which can be ignored because ive ran across this before with seamless branched discs where some sections of the playlist were ignored and I had to change the MIN_M2TS value as for all parts to be re encoded

I just loaded the playlist into BD-Info to determine a safe minimum value

I believe if you set the MIN_M2TS value really low such as 1 it would re encode every file

Good call, didn't think of that. Cheers for the information :)

[liquidskin76]

Encoded 'Die Hard' (Region B UK version) to BD25 with v0.20.05 and all went ok. Retained DTS-HD MA audio and it's all good.

Running 'Casino Royale' to BD25 now. I've set it to retain the LPCM HD audio so i'll let you know if i get the same as Furiousflea (where the LPCM encodes to 448k AC3 5.1).

Cheers

[san mateo]

Update information about Devil Wears Prada: completely satisfactory demuxing and generating a new blu ray authoring with TSMuxer and then reencode. As I reported in another thread, with BD Rebuilder option movie only the video freezes.

I don't know what's the problem with this movie, but BD Rebuilder movie only, BD9, video wrong (and is not muxer fail, because the video itself is frozen).

[pkho]

"All bright and grainy"

This could mean a lot of things.

After another 13 hours run of movie only to BD-5, I finally learn my mistake. I have boost Gamma and Deinterlace in ffdshow setting to watch some poor quality web video before and it all shows in the BD Rebuilder encoding. Will have to do it all over again. :(

[tekmobile]

Encoded 'Die Hard' (Region B UK version) to BD25 with v0.20.05 and all went ok. Retained DTS-HD MA audio and it's all good.

Running 'Casino Royale' to BD25 now. I've set it to retain the LPCM HD audio so i'll let you know if i get the same as Furiousflea (where the LPCM encodes to 448k AC3 5.1).

Cheers

I can also confirm that LPCM still gets encoded to AC3

[massiah]

Not sure if that was in reference to my post. I was giving instructions on how to fix an already finished encode without having to redo it :)

LOL...No Caps...
That was in reference to the placement of the tsmuxer in the tools folder.
Thanks, again.
I have been reencoding since 9:30PM EST...
It is now 4:30 AM EST and I am at 80% progress.

WAR:

BD-25/Movie only/Eng/Eng-one track for each/
AVCHD Compliance/Keep HD Audio for BD-25/No Trellis...

I am waiting....

[dreamk]

Tryed Casino (european version) and at the end got "CorrectMPLS() 00009 5" error thing.

DVD-Rebuilder was already in 100% done and doing task "Integrating new files into BD structure."

DVD-Rebuilder.log
-----------------------
[19:43:47] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: CASINO
- Input BD size: 44.81 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:00:54.773]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[19:43:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:43:47] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [19:43:48] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 6)
- [19:47:07] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00020]
- [19:47:09] Reencoding: VID_00020 (2 of 6)
- [19:50:52] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00024]
- [20:01:15] Reencoding: VID_00024 (3 of 6)
- [08:53:13] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00029]
- [08:53:17] Reencoding: VID_00029 (4 of 6)
- [08:56:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00054]
- [08:56:25] Reencoding: VID_00054 (5 of 6)
- [09:42:25] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00055]
- [09:42:33] Reencoding: VID_00055 (6 of 6)
[09:55:50]PHASE ONE complete
[09:55:50]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:55:50] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [09:56:05] CorrectMPLS() 00009 5
[10:45:17] - Aborted at user request

---------------------------------------------
BDREBUILDER.INI file
[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
RESIZE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;fin;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\BLURAY_TESTIT\CASINO\
WORKING_PATH=D:\BD_REBUILDERTEMP\

So that happened in movie Casino (not Casino Royale), what i later realized that out of curiosity i changed tsmuxer to newer
1.8.35 version so, that might have effect also? I do rerun with older original tsmuxer version and report back tomorrow.

[liquidskin76]

Completed 'Casino Royale' (UK version) to BD25 with HD audio retained however i can confirm it has converted the HD LPCM to AC3 5.1.

Cheers

[massiah]

WAR:

BD-25/Movie only/Eng/Eng-one track for each/
AVCHD Compliance/Keep HD Audio for BD-25/No Trellis...

I am waiting....


NO GO...same thing... oh well...

[Capsbackup]

Completed 'Casino Royale' (UK version) to BD25 with HD audio retained however i can confirm it has converted the HD LPCM to AC3 5.1.

Cheers
I can also confirm Casino Royale, NTSC, does not keep the LPCM audio, it encodes it to 448kbps AC3.

[dreamk]

Tryed Casino (european version) and at the end got "CorrectMPLS() 00009 5" error thing.

BD-Rebuilder was already in 100% done and doing task "Integrating new files into BD structure."


Well i burned it to BD-RE disc and movie itself seems to be ok so are sounds and subtitles and menus, extras dont work. Disc size is 22.2Gb.

[tekmobile]

Any ideas what the problem may be doing the dark knight keep HD audio doing full disc but just encoding the main movie the rest of the disc is only about 5GB

-----------------------
[23:02:30] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: THE_DARK_KNIGHT
- Input BD size: 37.92 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:32:13.332]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[23:02:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:24:40] Reencoding: VID_00007 (1 of 1)
[16:28:56]PHASE ONE complete
[16:28:56]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:28:56] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [16:29:51] DoEncoding() 00052 3
-----------------------

[DaMacFunkin]

Obviously i want to keep HD Audio, so:
A, i need to replace tsmuxer with the new one, right?
B, what problems are these new versions throwing up with Panasonic players?
Thanks.

[stef73]

mate my panasonic BD35 isnt having any problems since i changed to latest (1.8.3.5) version of tsmuxer all is well and working have dts master hd and dolby true hd audio on bd25s :)

[PONIENTE]

I´ve same problem when encoding audio:

[10:40:53] BD Rebuilder v0.20.04 (beta)
- Source: SHINEALIGHT
- Input BD size: 34,61 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:33:35.000]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[10:40:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00000__4352.WAV]
[10:40:55] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

Could you help me?

[tekmobile]

I´ve same problem when encoding audio:

[10:40:53] BD Rebuilder v0.20.04 (beta)
- Source: SHINEALIGHT
- Input BD size: 34,61 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:33:35.000]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[10:40:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00000__4352.WAV]
[10:40:55] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

Could you help me?

If you trying to keep HD Audio this error has been fixed in version 0.20.05 (beta)

[stef73]

poniente you need to download version 0.20.05 thatll work when you replace tsremuxer with version 1.8.35

[PONIENTE]

Thank very much. I´ll try it

[PONIENTE]

I have the same problem with lastest version:

[10:54:29] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: SHINEALIGHT
- Input BD size: 34,61 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:33:35.000]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[10:54:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00000__4353.WAV]
[10:54:31] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

[tekmobile]

I have the same problem with lastest version:

[10:54:29] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: SHINEALIGHT
- Input BD size: 34,61 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:33:35.000]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[10:54:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00000__4353.WAV]
[10:54:31] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

Can you post your BDREBUILDER.INI file contents

[PONIENTE]

Of course:

[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=P:\PELÍCULAS BLU-RAY\50 GB\SUN ALIGHT\SHINEALIGHT\
WORKING_PATH=P:\PELÍCULAS BLU-RAY\

[tekmobile]

Of course:

[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=P:\PELÍCULAS BLU-RAY\50 GB\SUN ALIGHT\SHINEALIGHT\
WORKING_PATH=P:\PELÍCULAS BLU-RAY\

Is this your first go with the program

Not sure if it would cause problems but your source/working path includes non einglish characters "PELÍCULAS I dont think Aften accepts these but I could be wrong you could try renaming both directories and then updating the source and working paths to reflect

[PONIENTE]

Thanks again

[tekmobile]

Thanks again

Was that your problem

[tekmobile]

Ive been using BD-RB since the early 0.19.0x versions without any problems but the 2 latest discs i have tried both fail with the same error at the same point rebuilding the structure on 2 different computers with sufficiant free space

-----------------------
[06:58:23] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: KINGDOM_OF_CRYSTAL_SKULL
- Input BD size: 39.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:02:32.386]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[06:58:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [06:58:27] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [08:15:31] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 1)
[08:41:31]PHASE ONE complete
[08:41:31]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:41:31] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [08:42:14] DoEncoding() 00005 3
-----------------------

Any ideas ive tried everything i can think of

[PONIENTE]

Was that your problem

I´ve begun again the conversion. I´ll wait to know that is correct.

Thanks

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Hi!

Since my pre-BD_RB procedures are different than those of most members, I'll first describe them and will then describe the anomaly:

Procedures:

1) Rip the movie title only of a BluRay using "MakeMKV" (rather than "AnyDVD"). This results in a single .MKV representing the entire movie.

2) Use tsMuxer to convert the .MKV to a proper BluRay package, including chapter points set at every 5 minutes (I've used many versions, dating back to v.1.8.4 - and this has had no bearing on the problem)

3) Process the BluRay "package" with BD_RB (In addition to all of the requisite folders and files in the "package", the "Stream" folder contains only one .M2TS file - which is the movie only)

Problem:

1) If I select "Movie only" in BD-RB, chaptering behaves properly

2) If I select "Full movie" in BD_RB, ALL of the first 14 chapters point to the beginning of the movie! - And, as a totally unacceptable consequence, the chapter selection stops short of the end of the movie by (I believe) 70 minutes.

Additionally, when using software playback, seeking on the time line presents the same behavior.

3) On the other hand, if allowed to play from the start, without attempting to select chapters (or move along the time line), the movie will play properly, from start to finish.

Based on the above, I'm fairly certain that this anomalous behavior is the result of an inconsistency between the two BD_RB processing modes ("Full movie" and Movie only").

Please advise.

BTW - I'm fully aware that "Don't do that" is an easy solution, but I believe it may be important to get at the root cause of this behavior ;>}

[mouw]

2) If I select "Full movie" in BD_RB, ALL of the first 14 chapters point to the beginning of the movie! - And, as a totally unacceptable consequence, the chapter selection stops short of the end of the movie by (I believe) 70 minutes.

have u tried FixCLPI (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145092) on the BD_Rebuilder output??

[tekmobile]

Procedures:

1) Rip the movie title only of a BluRay using "MakeMKV" (rather than "AnyDVD"). This results in a single .MKV representing the entire movie.

2) Use tsMuxer to convert the .MKV to a proper BluRay package, including chapter points set at every 5 minutes (I've used many versions, dating back to v.1.8.4 - and this has had no bearing on the problem)

3) Process the BluRay "package" with BD_RB (In addition to all of the requisite folders and files in the "package", the "Stream" folder contains only one .M2TS file - which is the movie only)

Whats the point of doing things that way apart from having 5 min chapters opposed to letting BD-RB do either a Full or Movie ONLY backup that work

[setarip_old]

@tekmobile

Based on your partial quote of my post, I'm afraid I don't understand what you're asking - nor does what you're asking appear to be a solution to the behavior I've described...

[setarip_old]

@mouw

Hi!have u tried FixCLPI on the BD_Rebuilder output??No I haven't - because I'm fairly certain that I'd read that, based on changes to BD_RB (and, I believe, tsMuxer), it was no longer relevant.

If I'm wrong about the change to BD-RB, please correct me ;>}

And again, I know how to avoid this problem (By simply select "Movie only" in BD_RB). Beta testing is intended to root out bugs in the program - and that is the sole purpose of my post ;>}

[tekmobile]

@tekmobile

Based on your partial quote of my post, I'm afraid I don't understand what you're asking - nor does what you're asking appear to be a solution to the behavior I've described...

I quoted the wrong part


Procedures:

1) Rip the movie title only of a BluRay using "MakeMKV" (rather than "AnyDVD"). This results in a single .MKV representing the entire movie.

2) Use tsMuxer to convert the .MKV to a proper BluRay package, including chapter points set at every 5 minutes (I've used many versions, dating back to v.1.8.4 - and this has had no bearing on the problem)

3) Process the BluRay "package" with BD_RB (In addition to all of the requisite folders and files in the "package", the "Stream" folder contains only one .M2TS file - which is the movie only)


Do you have any reason for doing it this way because there are no issues if you use a direct BD rip and I believe the issue is arising from the extra processing by TsMuxer which is not needed

[ds9delta]

@mouw

Hi!No I haven't - because I'm fairly certain that I'd read that, based on changes to BD_RB (and, I believe, tsMuxer), it was no longer relevant.

If I'm wrong about the change to BD-RB, please correct me ;>}

And again, I know how to avoid this problem (By simply select "Movie only" in BD_RB). Beta testing is intended to root out bugs in the program - and that is the sole purpose of my post ;>}

BDRB Will NOT Work Correctly On Any Source Besides Blu-Ray (Sometimes HD-DVD) Becuase It Is NOT Designed To.. This Is An Old Argument Mentioned About 2 Months Ago I Believe jdobbs Stated That BDRB Is Designed As A BACK-UP TOOL ONLY Which Means You Are Expected To Own The Original Blu-Ray\HD-DVD (As The Case Maybe) And Using Anydvd Or Similar Converting The ORIGINAL M2TS Streams To A Movie Only Or Full Disc Back-up. I'm Sorry But What You Say In Regards To Input Of MKV Is NOT A Bug... We Are Working On This Project NOT To Support Illegal Downloads Etc... But To Back-Up What We Own. I Apologise If This Offends You That Is Not Intended It's Just That You Are One Of Many To Mention MKV. And Again My Apologies.

[Furiousflea]

BDRB Will NOT Work Correctly On Any Source Besides Blu-Ray (Sometimes HD-DVD) Becuase It Is NOT Designed To.. This Is An Old Argument Mentioned About 2 Months Ago I Believe jdobbs Stated That BDRB Is Designed As A BACK-UP TOOL ONLY Which Means You Are Expected To Own The Original Blu-Ray\HD-DVD (As The Case Maybe) And Using Anydvd Or Similar Converting The ORIGINAL M2TS Streams To A Movie Only Or Full Disc Back-up. I'm Sorry But What You Say In Regards To Input Of MKV Is NOT A Bug... We Are Working On This Project NOT To Support Illegal Downloads Etc... But To Back-Up What We Own. I Apologise If This Offends You That Is Not Intended It's Just That You Are One Of Many To Mention MKV. And Again My Apologies.

Was about to post that....minus the caps at the start of every word ;)

Forget the illegal download tomfoolery this guy is a doom9 veteran and doubt that he's up to that not that I judge on that sort of rubbish. But the point is that it COULD be tsmuxer at fault and at this stage jdobbs is looking more into problems from clean rips...

just my thoughts :o

[setarip_old]

@ds9delta

Please re-read my post carefully - the source material IS always an original BluRay disc (Starts with a BluRay disc, feeds BD_RB a valid BluRay disc "package") and works PERFECTLY under BD_RB (with the exception that I've posted about).

Forgive me for smiling, but I find it humorous that someone would be lecturing me about illegal downloads. If you familiarize yourself with my many posting at the Doom9 Forums (and elsewhere) , you'd become aware that I am one of the most vocal critics (sometimes to the dismay of mods) of illegal downloads ;>}

BTW - It sounds like you are not aware that there is a program NAMED "MakeMKV" that, in some ways, is similar to "AnyDVD" regarding ripping of ORIGINAL BluRays, HD-DVDs, and standard DVDs...

[setarip_old]

@tekmobile

Thanks for clarifying your question:Do you have any reason for doing it this wayYes - Because, for personal reasons, I choose not to purchase "AnyDVD"...

I believe the issue is arising from the extra processing by TsMuxer which is not neededI don't believe that's the cause of this behavior - Because as I said, using the identical procedures, it doesn't create any problem if I simply set BD_RB to "Movie only"

[kaiman]

Problem with Vicky Cristina Barcelona, i have made several movies but with this i have a problem, its a rare bluray because it features a PCM 3.0 soundtrack, its the only available sound, all went ok, but when i play the backup you cant hear the dialogue only the music and sound effects

Any ideas? Its the bluray from USA and i used v0.20.05 beta

[mouw]

@mouw

Hi!No I haven't - because I'm fairly certain that I'd read that, based on changes to BD_RB (and, I believe, tsMuxer), it was no longer relevant.
If I'm wrong about the change to BD-RB, please correct me ;>}

YES--- we both KNOW & READ what's supposed to BE
and i don't use FixCLIP anymore because of tsMuxeR v.35b
but then again U aren't doing things eXactly like the REST of us
which is Y i gave u the link.....CLIP files do affect CHAPTER jumps

try [COLOR="Red"]CLOWN's FixCLIP GUI (http://clownbd.techxt.com/Downloads/fixCLPI%20GUI%20v0.02b.exe)(only takes 10sec)

[Furiousflea]

Problem with Vicky Cristina Barcelona, i have made several movies but with this i have a problem, its a rare bluray because it features a PCM 3.0 soundtrack, its the only available sound, all went ok, but when i play the backup you cant hear the dialogue only the music and sound effects

Any ideas? Its the bluray from USA and i used v0.20.05 beta

BDRB is still encoding LPCM to AC3 even when you select to keep HD audio intact. I expect next release jdobbs will correct this.

It looks like BDRB doesn't support AC3 with 3 channels, I'm not even sure it is a valid audio type for AC3. So, it is encoding it as 2 channel stereo AC3, leaving out the centre audio track.

It's a simple fix and I'm sure jdobbs will see to it.

[datman]

Hi Guys,

I wanted to thank jdobbs for the new “keep HD audio” for BD-25 targets. It has worked pretty well. I have had some problems I will try to post them articulately. They may have nothing to do with the HD audio or BDRB.

I have had several audio sync problems, the audio lags behind by a few seconds. The titles I can think of are “Hunt for the red October”, “the secret life of bees”, both of these may be from bad discs or firmware updates and “Transformers”. I had to rip the secret life of bees on my other computer and my hunt for the red October would not rip at all. I originally archived it using tsmuxer off the disc. I got another copy and it is ripping right now. I have had a few discs that anydvd won’t rip and tsmuxer would.


I have also had a few gremlins where the video stopped somewhere during the film and the audio keeps going. These I have re-encoded the film again and it works. I have no info on why this happens or if it is from BDRB.

All my encodes are off fresh rips, except when it won’t rip then I use another tool to get it on the HDD.

I don’t think my logs are necessary as I’m just posting issues but can post them if needed.

[pan07]

BDRB is still encoding LPCM to AC3 even when you select to keep HD audio intact. I expect next release jdobbs will correct this.

It looks like BDRB doesn't support AC3 with 3 channels, I'm not even sure it is a valid audio type for AC3. So, it is encoding it as 2 channel stereo AC3, leaving out the centre audio track.

It's a simple fix and I'm sure jdobbs will see to it.

ffs how is jdobbs gonna fix lpcm please?this is a limitation of tsmuxer is it not?even someone of my very limited knowlege new this as soon as it was introduced to bdrebuider,please correct me if i am wrong

[Furiousflea]

ffs how is jdobbs gonna fix lpcm please?this is a limitation of tsmuxer is it not?even someone of my very limited knowlege new this as soon as it was introduced to bdrebuider,please correct me if i am wrong

lol, you are wrong ;) sortof.

with version 0.20.04 jdobbs added the option to keep HD audio but he hadn't actually tested it and although he'd done the code to keep the HD audio in the clipi\playlist files, he hadn't set BDRB to not encode all audio at the end of the video encoding. So you'd be left with AC3 audio no matter what\a corrupted encode etc. This was fixed for 0.20.04 but only for DTS-Master Audio, this was because the version of tsmuxer that is included is an old one that can't correctly mux TrueHD audio, This is correctable by swppaing the versions of tsmuxer with a new one.

The only problem left is with LPCM audio, it looks like jdobbs left LPCM audio the same as version 0.20.03, so it still re-encodes to AC3 at the end. I have no idea if the other clpi\playlist etc files are getting updated to reference the LPCM of they aren't being touched either as I haven't checked.

There could well be another issue AFTER he has changed the code to not re-encode the LPCM, I don't know but I do remember there being some problem importing wav files into TSmuxer.

I suspect there will be a 0.20.05 release that will support LPCM, we will find that the only change is the encoding of the LPCM not happening at the end and there will be a bug with tsmuxer not importing the audio correctly. I or someone else will post here to say as much and then by 0.20.06 it will be fixed. I believe someone has a tool that can be used to import wav audio properly into tsmuxer...saw it in someoens signature a few days ago...

...We don't know basically, what the score is but currently LPCM audio will NOT be retained no matter what you do and it's best to wait for jdobbs on this as he only added HD audio support a few days ago :)

Patience is a virtue :D

[Furiousflea]

Hi Guys,

I wanted to thank jdobbs for the new “keep HD audio” for BD-25 targets. It has worked pretty well. I have had some problems I will try to post them articulately. They may have nothing to do with the HD audio or BDRB.

I have had several audio sync problems, the audio lags behind by a few seconds. The titles I can think of are “Hunt for the red October”, “the secret life of bees”, both of these may be from bad discs or firmware updates and “Transformers”. I had to rip the secret life of bees on my other computer and my hunt for the red October would not rip at all. I originally archived it using tsmuxer off the disc. I got another copy and it is ripping right now. I have had a few discs that anydvd won’t rip and tsmuxer would.


I have also had a few gremlins where the video stopped somewhere during the film (it sounds like this is because you are making bad rips from your statement below) and the audio keeps going. These I have re-encoded the film again and it works. I have no info on why this happens or if it is from BDRB.

All my encodes are off fresh rips, except when it won’t rip then I use another tool to get it on the HDD. <-This makes no sense:scared:

I don’t think my logs are necessary as I’m just posting issues but can post them if needed.


There are some contradictions and oddities in your post, please explain? tsmuxer can't rip copy protected blurays...or any for that matter.???

[pan07]

i have replaced the txmuser flea and aware that the latest doesnt support lpcm how am i wrong,ihave succesfully backed up 5 blu-rays with true-hd and dtsmaster audio.
lpcm will not be corrected till tsmuxer supports it am i wrong?

[Furiousflea]

i have replaced the txmuser flea and aware that the latest doesnt support lpcm how am i wrong,ihave succesfully backed up 5 blu-rays with true-hd and dtsmaster audio.
lpcm will not be corrected till tsmuxer supports it am i wrong?

That's why I said "sortof" ;)

What I meant was that even if the tsmuxer included with BDRB does work. It still wouldn't be churning out LPCM discs because there are 2 problems. The first one being the code needed to properly process LPCM tracks isn't even correct.

I'm not too sure about the problem with tsmuxer and LPCM audio I'd only read it in a couple of posts, but you seem pretty sure of yourself so that's abit of a bummer :(

I wasn't critisizing you :) just making light of there being 2 problems in my usual childish manner...still a kid inside.:o

[Furiousflea]

i have replaced the txmuser flea and aware that the latest doesnt support lpcm how am i wrong,ihave succesfully backed up 5 blu-rays with true-hd and dtsmaster audio.
lpcm will not be corrected till tsmuxer supports it am i wrong?

Could this help with handling LPCM...

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138417&highlight=lpcm

That was the thread I saw the other day that had me thinking.

[setarip_old]

@mouw

Although I appreciate your suggestion (and reasoning), I have no interest in repairing these specific files for, as I said in another post here:

I know how to avoid this problem (By simply select "Movie only" in BD_RB). Beta testing is intended to root out bugs in the program - and that is the sole purpose of my post ;>}

[datman]

There are some contradictions and oddities in your post, please explain? tsmuxer can't rip copy protected blurays...or any for that matter.???

Glad to hope I can word this correctly. I assume it is known that anydvd is also running. I have had some of my] movies that had glitches and some are known glitches I read others have had. Either with anydvd or their drives firmware. If anydvd won't rip to image because of a read error I try ripping to folder. If that won't work I run tsmuxer from the disc and for some reason that usually works and if that won't work I use tsremux. As a matter of fact before BDRB I never even ripped many movies I ran tsmuxer from the disc. All I ever want on my archive is the movie only. I don't care about all that other sh*t they put on there.

Funny my copy of red october fails at 7% done and the new copy fails at 94% I'm thinking my drive is failing or anydvd has a bug that was not a problem before. But other movies work fine

edit; I'm now running an old version of anydvd if that works than it's an anydvd bug if not it may be my drive

[datman]

Glad to hope I can word this correctly. I assume it is known that anydvd is also running. I have had some of my] movies that had glitches and some are known glitches I read others have had. Either with anydvd or their drives firmware. If anydvd won't rip to image because of a read error I try ripping to folder. If that won't work I run tsmuxer from the disc and for some reason that usually works and if that won't work I use tsremux. As a matter of fact before BDRB I never even ripped many movies I ran tsmuxer from the disc. All I ever want on my archive is the movie only. I don't care about all that other sh*t they put on there.

Funny my copy of red october fails at 7% done and the new copy fails at 94% I'm thinking my drive is failing or anydvd has a bug that was not a problem before. But other movies work fine

edit; I'm now running an old version of anydvd if that works than it's an anydvd bug if not it may be my drive


anyhow the issue at hand is why on some films even fresh rips the audio is out of sync and why myself and at least one other member has had these video stopping errors. That require another encode

[pan07]

no worries flea i come on here to learn ,just thought the lpcm bug was common knowlege and jdobbs stated any problems with hd audio was a limatation with ts muxer, so shouldnt be reported on here.

[Furiousflea]

Glad to hope I can word this correctly. I assume it is known that anydvd is also running. I have had some of my] movies that had glitches and some are known glitches I read others have had. Either with anydvd or their drives firmware. If anydvd won't rip to image because of a read error I try ripping to folder. If that won't work I run tsmuxer from the disc and for some reason that usually works and if that won't work I use tsremux. As a matter of fact before BDRB I never even ripped many movies I ran tsmuxer from the disc. All I ever want on my archive is the movie only. I don't care about all that other sh*t they put on there.

Funny my copy of red october fails at 7% done and the new copy fails at 94% I'm thinking my drive is failing or anydvd has a bug that was not a problem before. But other movies work fine

edit; I'm now running an old version of anydvd if that works than it's an anydvd bug if not it may be my drive

The trouble is that you shouldn't be getting these errors. To make sure it IS just a glitch (personally I don't think it is, I think there's something wrong on your end, but just to prove it).

1. Try leaving the LATEST version of AnyDVD HD running in the background, put the disc in the drive and let it read it etc. Until it stops flashing it's little "disc reading" bubble in the system tray. Then go into AnyDVD HD settings and make sure it hasn't encountered an error with the disc in the log for the drive.

2. Turn AnyDVD HD off and exit

3. Rip the disc with Imgburn, it will give you a warning but just ignore it.

4. Run "Verify" mode in imgburn using your disc image against the original disc to compare (this will test your computer memory, if there is a difference, you need new memory)

4. Install "Virtual CloneDrive" (free virtual drive software from slysoft)

5. Mount the image

6. Start AnyDVD HD again and rip from the VirtualCloneDrive to a folder.

7. WORK WITH THE OUTPUT FROM HERE


(I give you these steps because I suspect you have either dodgy discs, incompatibilty with protection not being stripped, faulty memory, or bad sectors on your hard drive).

I have NEVER had a problem with the kind of behaviour you are describing, in terms of just the ripping of the disc with AnyDVD HD if it is kept up to date. I have never had it full stop and I have ripped well over 70 discs.

What you are describing is classical..."something is wrong with something on your computer". Going the sneaky way around it to get an "OK" from the computer doesn't mean it is "OK".


Good luck :)

Do not work with Tsmuxer directly with your bluray drive using AnyDVD HD in the background
Do not work with ANYTHING AT ALL other than a RAW folder that has been ripped.

AnyDVD HD may make things "transparent" but it cannot make your copy protected bluray act 100% as a normal one, what you're doing is just inviting a problem.

[Furiousflea]

no worries flea i come on here to learn ,just thought the lpcm bug was common knowlege and jdobbs stated any problems with hd audio was a limatation with ts muxer, so shouldnt be reported on here.

Have a read back the last 5-10 pages of this thread and you'll see the level jdobbs is up against ;)

Thank god I'm not him!

[datman]

Good luck :)

.

Thanks for the encouragement and the little guide to test my system.

The weird thing is I have 2 computers with BD drives and both will not rip either copy of hunt for the red October but with secret life of bees the laptop worked
:confused:

[vcarter]

@jdobbs

with BD RB 0.20.05

in setup,because i wanted to keep dts i've only checked "do not convert dts to ac3".

i had this audio;DTS 1.5 mbps and now i got AC3 448 kbs

here's the ini

DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0

if i only got one audio track "do not convert dts to ac3" has priority on the other options, isn't it?

so if there's DTS_REENCODE=0,you can't also have AC3_REENCODE=1

if i got the solution,can i use the files in "workfiles"?

thanx

[deank]

1) Rip the movie title only of a BluRay using "MakeMKV" (rather than "AnyDVD"). This results in a single .MKV representing the entire movie.

2) Use tsMuxer to convert the .MKV to a proper BluRay package, including chapter points set at every 5 minutes (I've used many versions, dating back to v.1.8.4 - and this has had no bearing on the problem)

Problem:

1) If I select "Movie only" in BD-RB, chaptering behaves properly


If you use makeMKV then you get a movie-only MKV, right? No menu/extras...

The normal thing you would do is to use Movie-Only in BD-RB - and as it is expected - it works okay for you.

Why do you need the "Full backup" mode? It will make BD-RB do many other things that are not required (as searching for menus/extras/processing mpls/clpi files in other fashion...) which may not work in your case.

There is nothing that BD-RB will do in "Full backup mode" to improve your original 'movie-only' - there is nothing to improve.

Or may be I miss something.

Dean

edit: it is possible that BD-RB doesn't read the chapter marks from tsmuxer's output and it causes you to have 14 pointing to the beginning and other not following the movie at all.

edit2: Also be advised that in movie-only mode BD-RB creates AVCHD styled index.bdmv but in Full-mode it will keep your BD-styled tsmuxer's index.

[tekmobile]

Error during audio encoding using aften full CMD window output
Title was AC/DC - No Bull


C:\Users\Public\rbtest\BD_Rebuilder>"C:\Users\Public\rbtest\BD_Rebuilder\tools\w
avi.exe" "C:\USERS\PUBLIC\RBTEST\WORKFILES\AUD_00000_4352.AVS" - | "C:\Users\P
ublic\rbtest\BD_Rebuilder\tools\aften.exe" -v 1 -b 192 -readtoeof 1 - "C:\USERS\
PUBLIC\RBTEST\WORKFILES\AUD_00000_4352.AC3"

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

Found PCM audio: 2 channels, 96000 Hz, 16 bits, 7414.415000 seconds.
Writing WAV file...
input format: Microsoft WAVE Signed 16-bit little-endian 96000 Hz stereo
output format: 96000 Hz stereo (2/0)

invalid sample rate
error initializing encoder
Error: Could not write to the standard output.


I suspect this to be due to the 96K sample rate

[dtshdma]

Not doing too well today. I have done The Devil Wears Prada and everything was fine and I burned a bd-9. I played it on a standalone and thought I might have a disc fault as about half way throught the film the pictures freezes but the audio continues. I checked the image on the hard disc and that was the same, but as expected the original and rip were fine. Me too.The same error exactly. I don't remember what version I used, 0203 probably, but I'm not sure. I'll retry with the latest beta.

I have same problem......BD-RB version is 20.05.
Please help us!!!!!!!!!!!! What`s wrong???

[setarip_old]

@deank

Hi!Why do you need the "Full backup" mode?I don't NEED the full backup mode.

As I've posted several times in this thread, I have become aware of the differing playback behavior (regarding chapters and timeline) resulting from using the two different compression modes on the same source material - and consider to to be a bug, so I am reporting this anomalous/inconsistent behavior to "jdobbs".

edit2: Also be advised that in movie-only mode BD-RB creates AVCHD styled index.bdmv but in Full-mode it will keep your BD-styled tsmuxer's index.Perhaps this is the reason for the differing results. However, my question (perhaps a bit naive) would then be - Why would it be necessary to deal with chaptering in the different ways for the two different modes, as you've suggested?

[Furiousflea]

Bad news to report here....

I assumed wrongly that the full disc backups I had done, only removing foreign audio tracks would play without problems but it looks like there's some incorrect mapping of channels going on using 0.20.05.

300 - Plays fine with proper main audio. But If I select commentry I get "english audio descritive", but if you select "english audio descriptive" you get the proper main TrueHD track.

Godfather Part III - Plays the commentry track when you first play the film, if you select the commentry track you then get the TrueHD english track so they are incorrectly swapped. You also then miss the forced subtitles so you can't enjoy the film because if you get the commentry subtitles with the TrueHD track.

Resident Evil Extinction - Plays the main TrueHD track fine, but when you select the commentry you get the "english audio descriptive" track. If you select the "english audio descritive" track you get the main TrueHD track (commentry is unselectable)

Incorrect mapping of channels for about 1\3 of discs :(


This was out of 9 BD-Rs I burnt. The rest play perfectly with all tracks and menu selections correct...

Iron Man
Rent
Bladerunner
Godfather Part I
Quantum Of Solace
28 Weeks Later

All worked perfectly.


EDIT

I have editited this because I mentioned that DTSMA was playing as DTS but it actually isn't.

...Sorry for the confusion, me being the douchebag that I am. I'd selected "mix" instead of "direct" in my settings for my bluray player, for some reason this has the effect of causing DTSMA to output as DTS. It has no effect on TrueHD though...Strangely. (Sony BDP-S550)


The swapping of enabled streams seems abit weird though and definately a bug

[Furiousflea]

@deank

Hi!I don't NEED the full backup mode.

As I've posted several times in this thread, I have become aware of the differing playback behavior (regarding chapters and timeline) resulting from using the two different compression modes on the same source material - and consider to to be a bug, so I am reporting this anomalous/inconsistent behavior to "jdobbs".

Perhaps this is the reason for the differing results. However, my question (perhaps a bit naive) would then be - Why would it be necessary to deal with chaptering in the different ways for the two different modes, as you've suggested?

Come to think of it I had a similar problem where if I had a "movie only" that is to say there was only 1 m2ts that I had created using tsmuxer containing the main movie. If I selected full disc mode I would get weird things going on...trouble is it was a while ago and I can't remember exactly what went wrong.

But it can't really be considered a bug if it only happens if you have a movie only in the first place. Maybe its normal, until it actually causes a problem for a full disc it's surely irrelevent?

[setarip_old]

@Furiousflea

Hi!Maybe its normal, until it actually causes a problem for a full disc it's surely irrelevent?It's not irrelevant that a program allows you to do something that yields flawed results.

In this instance, we are referring to only two possible choices ("Movie only" or "Full disc"). I'm fairly certain that it would be a trivial thing for "jdobbs" to add a check to see if all requisite files/folders for a true "Full disc" are present in the source material - and generate an informational error message, requiring the user to select the proper mode...

[datman]

Not doing too well today. I have done The Devil Wears Prada and everything was fine and I burned a bd-9. I played it on a standalone and thought I might have a disc fault as about half way throught the film the pictures freezes but the audio continues. I checked the image on the hard disc and that was the same, but as expected the original and rip were fine.

I have same problem......BD-RB version is 20.05.
Please help us!!!!!!!!!!!! What`s wrong???

this is one of the problems I have had. I am not burning to a disc at all (yet) but when I played from folder with pdvd 3319a on a few encodes at some point the picture freezes and the audio keeps going. This is a gremlin and when I re-encoded again it worked fine. I have noticed that on the failed encodes the speed became much faster during the encode. So if normally it takes 8 hours and you get one done in less than 6 it may be because of this error and perhaps the video freezing accouts for the increase in speed.

[DaMacFunkin]

where is the option that changes the minimum file size of which files are encoded, or do you have to add it in the ini, and if so what is the correct string?

[deank]

...my question ... would then be - Why would it be necessary to deal with chaptering in the different ways for the two different modes, as you've suggested?

I guess with movie-only BD-RB tells tsmuxer to create chapters (at 5mins points) and in Full-backup BD-RB tries to find the original ones from mpls files and recreate them in the final output (where may the problem lie - as a small bug :) ). It is strange that no one else reported such issue or people simply don't use chapters ;)

[tekmobile]

where is the option that changes the minimum file size of which files are encoded, or do you have to add it in the ini, and if so what is the correct string?

You have to add it yourself

MIN_M2TS_SIZE=300

just change the number to one that you want for example the one above would be 300MB

[mhammer]

I can confirm that you have to disable 24p playback on the Panasonic DMP-BD35 to successfully play a movie only BD-25 done with BD-RB. With 24p there is only sound and no picture.
(Using newest Tsmuxer and BD-RB)

Are there any solutions?

[tekmobile]

I guess with movie-only BD-RB tells tsmuxer to create chapters (at 5mins points) and in Full-backup BD-RB tries to find the original ones from mpls files and recreate them in the final output (where may the problem lie - as a small bug :) ). It is strange that no one else reported such issue or people simply don't use chapters ;)

I believe that BD-RB uses the same chaptering technique for both modes by getting them from the origanal MPLS

[deank]

Well, I believe not, but it's jdobbs that will tell us for sure. I somehow doubt that he keeps chapters from the original movies in movie-only mode, but I may be wrong. When he comes back, he'll let us know.

@setarip_old:
It's strange to put jdobbs's name in quotes. Also - a properly set input should NOT require SPECIAL recognition as "movie only" or "full" - it is simply impossible... One m2ts or not - it doesn't make a source suitable for movie-only!

I believe that there is something wrong with tsmuxer's output you used for "full backup" input and I won't blame BD-RB for that.

[Furiousflea]

What are people doing for movies with more than 1 m2ts for the main feature...Or multiple (e.g films like Wall-E)?

Since BDRB is reducing the bitrate for all m2ts other than the largets, unless the other m2ts are also very large. In the case of Wall-E this will force a lower bitrate for all m2ts except the largest, since it has LOADS of m2ts that make up the main move and not just 2 as is the case with many blurays.

Also, is seemless branching working? For titles like King Kong Directors cut etc.

Many thanx :)

[Capsbackup]

BD-RB does keep the original chapters from the movie in "movie only" mode, I can confirm to the several I have made, burned and tested. I have noticed that they don't seem to be exactly timed properly on playback with powerdvd, but start slightly before the perhaps correct point.( a short glimpse of the scene before the chapter change). I just figured this was powerdvd though, since I don't believe I noticed this on my Sony BDP-BX1. But I can't remember ever checking this that closely on the Sony, since it was close enough I guess, and I don't really jump thru chapters anyway.

[tekmobile]

What are people doing for movies with more than 1 m2ts for the main feature...Or multiple (e.g films like Wall-E)?

Since BDRB is reducing the bitrate for all m2ts other than the largets, unless the other m2ts are also very large. In the case of Wall-E this will force a lower bitrate for all m2ts except the largest, since it has LOADS of m2ts that make up the main move and not just 2 as is the case with many blurays.

Also, is seemless branching working? For titles like King Kong Directors cut etc.

Many thanx :)


I think BD-RB processes every m2ts in the main mpls the same regardless of its size even if its below the the MIN_M2TS value ill have to check up on it I dont have WALL-E to try that title though

[Furiousflea]

I think BD-RB processes every m2ts in the main mpls the same regardless of its size even if its below the the MIN_M2TS value ill have to check up on it I dont have WALL-E to try that title though

Don't think it does, dunno if you remember but couple of days ago you answered a question of mine where I was doing the bluray "Rent" where some m2ts were under a certain size and not being encoded wheras some were (they belonged to the same mpls).

Having said that, they belonged to more than one mpls. Their own individual one and a "play all". They would have played fine on their own but not if you selected the "play all" option.

?

Cheers :)

[deank]

What are people doing for movies with more than 1 m2ts for the main feature...
@Furiousflea: Well... I'd say this is one of the weirdest messages you posted for the last month... :D Either my english needs some schooling :) or you're saying and asking something that I can't figure out :)

[tekmobile]

Don't think it does, dunno if you remember but couple of days ago you answered a question of mine where I was doing the bluray "Rent" where some m2ts were under a certain size and not being encoded wheras some were (they belonged to the same mpls).

Having said that, they belonged to more than one mpls. Their own individual one and a "play all". They would have played fine on their own but not if you selected the "play all" option.

?

Cheers :)

Yes I remember but them files on rent were in the extras which I dont think it does MPLS checking which can be concidered a bug.
I was just refering to the main movie MPLS as in seamless branched discs where I think it does MPLS checking

[tekmobile]

Originally Posted by Furiousflea
What are people doing for movies with more than 1 m2ts for the main feature...

@Furiousflea: Well... I'd say this is one of the weirdest messages you posted for the last month... :D Either my english needs some schooling :) or you're saying and asking something that I can't figure out :)

He was refering to Seamless Branched Discs :sly:

[Furiousflea]

@Furiousflea: Well... I'd say this is one of the weirdest messages you posted for the last month... :D Either my english needs some schooling :) or you're saying and asking something that I can't figure out :)

lol cheeky!

Thanks tekmobile, I'm not insane!

[Furiousflea]

Yes I remember but them files on rent were in the extras which I dont think it does MPLS checking which can be concidered a bug.
I was just refering to the main movie MPLS as in seamless branched discs where I think it does MPLS checking

Gotcha, will give Wall-E a go then...:)

[tekmobile]

Gotcha, will give Wall-E a go then...:)

I suppose one way to find out would be to set the MIN_M2TS value higher than the majority of the m2ts files of the main movie and see if the files with a lower filesize show up in the stream tab on BD Rebuilder if they do then you know you should be ok to go

[GaPony]

It's not irrelevant that a program allows you to do something that yields flawed results.



I don't see any relevence to this beta program. You're changing the conditions under which BD Rebuilder is expected to work. Ripping to an .MKV then reconverting to Blu-Ray structure isn't the same thing as working from the original structure from the disc.

I understand that you would like a resolution to the problem you're experiencing, but it seems to me you're throwing a monkeywrench into the process and calling it a bug.

It doesn't seem quite fair to jdobbs.

[tekmobile]

Gotcha, will give Wall-E a go then...:)


Just tried to load ratatoullie which is the same as wall-e with loads of m2ts file to make up the movie and set the MIN_M2TS value to 10GB and in full disc mode it just picked up the one segment at 16GB (1hr) ignoring the rest of the movie files so im guessing it dont do MPLS checking on the main movie either so best to either avoid these discs for now or set the MIN_M2TS value low enough to pick up all the m2ts files that make up the movie
I then tried setting MIN_M2TS to 0 and it then showed every m2ts including one as small as 0.67MB to be ReEncoded so you can have as much or little done as you require

[Furiousflea]

Just tried to load ratatoullie which is the same as wall-e with loads of m2ts file to make up the movie and set the MIN_M2TS value to 10GB and in full disc mode it just picked up the one segment at 16GB (1hr) ignoring the rest of the movie files so im guessing it dont do MPLS checking on the main movie either so best to either avoid these discs for now or set the MIN_M2TS value low enough to pick up all the m2ts files that make up the movie
I then tried setting MIN_M2TS to 0 and it then showed every m2ts including one as small as 0.67MB to be ReEncoded so you can have as much or little done as you require

Thanks for checking that out. :)

[stef73]

I can confirm that you have to disable 24p playback on the Panasonic DMP-BD35 to successfully play a movie only BD-25 done with BD-RB. With 24p there is only sound and no picture.
(Using newest Tsmuxer and BD-RB)

Are there any solutions?

thats not true mate ive got a BD35 too and 24p is not disabled and ive done over a 100 movies now and theyve all played perfectly im using LG GGW H20L burner and the BD35 is going through onkyo 805 so i know whether true hd or dts hd master or dts hi res etc is being played

[tekmobile]

thats not true mate ive got a BD35 too and 24p is not disabled and ive done over a 100 movies now and theyve all played perfectly im using LG GGW H20L burner and the BD35 is going through onkyo 805 so i know whether true hd or dts hd master or dts hi res etc is being played

Which version of TsMuxer are you using as this may be a bug that was introduced the the latest build which I think is still 1.8.35(b) and are you also doing movie only like mhammer because this may not be the case with full disc backups which can and probably will behave differently

[drmih]

Not doing too well today. I have done The Devil Wears Prada and everything was fine and I burned a bd-9. I played it on a standalone and thought I might have a disc fault as about half way throught the film the pictures freezes but the audio continues. I checked the image on the hard disc and that was the same, but as expected the original and rip were fine.

I have same problem......BD-RB version is 20.05.
Please help us!!!!!!!!!!!! What`s wrong???

Please don't jump on me if I'm wrong but I tried to get this to work for a friend who had this issue. When I checked the version had been downloaded from a newsgroup and there is a nearly unnoticable glitch in the original (she's just started to talk to some chap at a party or the like). If you are telling me you ripped this from your original disc then it must be a mastering error, but otherwise perhaps you should withdraw quietly.

[tekmobile]

Please don't jump on me if I'm wrong but I tried to get this to work for a friend who had this issue. When I checked the version had been downloaded from a newsgroup and there is a nearly unnoticable glitch in the original (she's just started to talk to some chap at a party or the like). If you are telling me you ripped this from your original disc then it must be a mastering error, but otherwise perhaps you should withdraw quietly.

True if there is a corrupt frame(s) then the movie can freeze on that corrupt frame for the rest of the encode.
If thats the case then its not really a bug but more a source problem if you own the disc try ripping it again if it is indeed a download then you may never be able to re encode the source files you currently have

[Furiousflea]

Just as an update to my discs that were getting the audio remapped by BDRB incorrectly when backed up full disc mode. I notice that one of the discs (resident evil extinction) has 2 video tracks and an EAC3+ mono track (that is supposed to be played with the 2nd video track by the looks of it)...I think there's an inherrant problem in the way BDRB deals with the 2nd video track and it has knock on consequences for channel mapping. I looked at the other discs that were having problems and can't find anything "complex" in them though (The Godfather Part III especially is pretty plain with no extra video track or weird AC3+ audio).

[tekmobile]

Just as an update to my discs that were getting the audio remapped by BDRB incorrectly when backed up full disc mode. I notice that one of the discs (resident evil extinction) has 2 video tracks and an EAC3+ mono track (that is supposed to be played with the 2nd video track by the looks of it)...I think there's an inherrant problem in the way BDRB deals with the 2nd video track and it has knock on consequences for channel mapping. I looked at the other discs that were having problems and can't find anything "complex" in them though (The Godfather Part III especially is pretty plain with no extra video track or weird AC3+ audio).

Just had a look at that resident evil 3 disc heres what i found

Playlist 00001.mpls references file 00011.m2ts (Movie with PiP)
Video(PlayItem): AVC 1080p
Audio(PlayItem): TrueHD in Eng, Fra
Audio(PlayItem): DD 5.1 Spa, Por
Audio(PlayItem): DD 2.0
SubVideo(PiP): AVC 480p
SubAudio(PiP): E-AC3 1.0
+ Subs

Playlist 00060.mpls references file 00011.m2ts (Movie Only)
Video(PlayItem): AVC 1080p
Audio(PlayItem): TrueHD in Eng, Fra
Audio(PlayItem): DD 5.1 Spa, Por
Audio(PlayItem): DD 2.0
+ Subs

Maybe something for jdobbs to look into at some point even if it means just demuxing every audio track and the 2nd PiP video track at the same time BD-RB demuxes the audio/subs then just multiplexes these back into the stream on rebuild for BD25 only

such as adding code that translates to something like

#DEMUX
IF VID_COUNT=1
DEMUX_AUD/SUB
ELSE DEMUX_AUD/SUB/PIPVID

do all encoding etc then multiplex either the video stream and selected audio or the normal streams and the PiP tracks if they were in the source

Dont know if it would work or not but its got to be better than just ignoring the second PiP Video track
I just demuxed the PiP track in TsMuxer and its only 2.6GB so it wont eat that much space and the PiP audio is only about 65MB

[Furiousflea]

by "channel mapping" I actually meant "stream mapping" just as not to confuse...if\when jdobbs reads this ;)

[dtshdma]

I have using three times BD-RB 0.20.05....Movieonly on DVD-9....Three time problem is the same:after playback 1.20.04 of movie picture is freezing.but sound is played correct.Title is Goldfinger. Blu-ray on hdd is played correct.
I don`t know,what my doing.....

[setarip_old]

@deank

(Just kidding with you)It's strange to put jdobbs's name in quotes.Didn't I read that you are the progeny of educators? I was taught (Loooooong ago) that when, in writing, you refer to someone by a pseudonym, the pseudonym is entered in quotation marks - whereas, on the other hand when, in writing, addressing that person by his/her pseudonym, there is no need to enter it into quotation marks.

[deank]

:devil: :D

[mhammer]

thats not true mate ive got a BD35 too and 24p is not disabled and ive done over a 100 movies now and theyve all played perfectly im using LG GGW H20L burner and the BD35 is going through onkyo 805 so i know whether true hd or dts hd master or dts hi res etc is being played

Which version of Bd-Rb and Tsmuxer you are using?
Which settings do you use?

I tried the included and the newest Tsmuer with Bd-Rb without success.
I always use "Movie only". Must be something with the settings of x264 reencodes, because Ripbot works just fine.

[stef73]

Which version of TsMuxer are you using as this may be a bug that was introduced the the latest build which I think is still 1.8.35(b) and are you also doing movie only like mhammer because this may not be the case with full disc backups which can and probably will behave differently

im using latest version of tsremuxer 1.8.35, settings in bd rebuilder are to keep full hd audio and tested with movie only and full movie and burning back to bd25s, im using sony, verbatim bd-re's and ive found out that infiniti bd-re's will burn back 23.2GB.
i bought a bd35 about 6 weeks ago for sheer reason my ps3 stopped playing the ps3 stopped playing backups, ive had an LG GGW H20L since november 2007 and ive been creating backups since then with tsmuxer etc. without any difficulty once id got my head round it and the lack of help lol took me a month to figure out how to rip and burn them properly, so after i got the BD35 i found after initial settings it works spot on with anything im throwing at it.
ive been using traxdata bd-rs at the minute and ive got some 6x sony bd-rs on order from japan store which ill test again but as far as i can tell every disk and setting ive used be full hd audio or standard audio has worked in the BD35 but not my ps3.

[tekmobile]

im using latest version of tsremuxer 1.8.35, settings in bd rebuilder are to keep full hd audio and tested with movie only and full movie and burning back to bd25s, im using sony, verbatim bd-re's and ive found out that infiniti bd-re's will burn back 23.2GB.
i bought a bd35 about 6 weeks ago for sheer reason my ps3 stopped playing the ps3 stopped playing backups, ive had an LG GGW H20L since november 2007 and ive been creating backups since then with tsmuxer etc. without any difficulty once id got my head round it and the lack of help lol took me a month to figure out how to rip and burn them properly, so after i got the BD35 i found after initial settings it works spot on with anything im throwing at it.
ive been using traxdata bd-rs at the minute and ive got some 6x sony bd-rs on order from japan store which ill test again but as far as i can tell every disk and setting ive used be full hd audio or standard audio has worked in the BD35 but not my ps3.

I have a SONY BDP-S350 so cannot comment the the BD30 using traxdata 4x BD-R25s and never had a bad burn yet using a LG Burner

Im just trying to figure out why it works for one and not another if you both have different firmware versions it could be a firmware issue

[stef73]

I have a SONY BDP-S350 so cannot comment the the BD30 using traxdata 4x BD-R25s and never had a bad burn yet using a LG Burner

Im just trying to figure out why it works for one and not another if you both have different firmware versions it could be a firmware issue

i dont know its confusing as the ps3 will play all original disks perfectly well thats why i decided to try something different this time and just got panasonic BD35 as was only £220 quid so thought id give it a go and at worst itd end up in bedroom.

[stef73]

im actually 7 hours in to doing the devil wears prada to bd25 again so ill try it and let you know if it does the same as yours at 1hr20mins

[jdobbs]

Just tried to load ratatoullie which is the same as wall-e with loads of m2ts file to make up the movie and set the MIN_M2TS value to 10GB and in full disc mode it just picked up the one segment at 16GB (1hr) ignoring the rest of the movie files so im guessing it dont do MPLS checking on the main movie either so best to either avoid these discs for now or set the MIN_M2TS value low enough to pick up all the m2ts files that make up the movie
I then tried setting MIN_M2TS to 0 and it then showed every m2ts including one as small as 0.67MB to be ReEncoded so you can have as much or little done as you requireHmm... MIN_M2TS should have no affect whatsoever on movie-only encodes. I'll check it out when I get back home. I'm currently on the road for some real-job work.

[tekmobile]

Hmm... MIN_M2TS should have no affect whatsoever on movie-only encodes. I'll check it out when I get back home. I'm currently on the road for some real-job work.

Sorry no this was on a full disc copy but I was just mentioning ratatoullie as I knew it was seamless branched

But any movie that is seamless branched can get some segments of the playlist get converted and some dont so you can end up with a MPLS thats gets corected referencing AC3/DTS as was encoded and the actual m2ts files that get converted will match but any that fall below the MIN_M2TS value just get copied untouched so have the wrong audio streams

The same can happen with the video if you have say a VC-1 seamless branched disc the segments that fall below the MIN_M2TS value remain as VC-1 where the ones above get encoded to AVC and the MPLS get corrected to reference AVC so you end up with a playlist with mixed audio/video content that wont play

This issue came into light when Furiousflea tried to do rent that had multiple M2TS files for the extras that were referenced in 2 different playlists and the output ended up with mixed video content I think in a MPLS file making it unplayable.

As a work around I suggested setting the MIN_M2TS value lower than the smallest stream so all the M2TS files in the playlist would get reencoded

Would it be difficult to add some kind of code to read the MPLS files in full disc mode and force a reencode of all M2TS files in the playlist even if they fall below the MIN_M2TS value

Or better still add a MPLS processing mode where BD Rebuilder would process full MPLS files instead of indervidual M2TS streams

For example you have a playlist that has the following files
00001.m2ts @ 300MB
00002.m2ts @ 600MB
00003.m2ts @ 80MB
00004.m2ts @ 120MB

As it is now with the default MIN_M2TS set at 100MB it will process streams 1, 2 & 4 but ignore 3 making it non complient

With a MPLS processing mode it could just see
00001.mpls @ 1100MB and encode every M2TS referenced in it including 00003.m2TS even though its below the MIN_M2TS value making it complient

Sorry if its hard to understand its getting late here for me and im tired and to be up early for work

[mhammer]

Tried Level 4.1 in Ripbot with this:

--level 4.1 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 40000 --vbv-maxrate 40000 --filter -3,-3 --ref 4 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --weightb --direct auto --subme 8 --trellis 1 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --mvrange 511 --sar 1:1 --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

works just fine on my PD-35 with 24p.

maybe "--nal-hrd" does the trick.

Bd-Rb uses:

--level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 7 --me umh --ref 3 --bframes 3 --direct auto --8x8dct --weightb --trellis 1 --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 --aq-strength 0.8 --threads auto

Next i will check Bd-Rb settings with "--nal-hrd"

[tekmobile]

Next i will check Bd-Rb settings with "--nal-hrd"

The option is not official and it's only present in patched builds

[Philippe62]

The same error occurs as the program wants to reencode the second part of the video without audio :

The LOG :
-----------------------
[17:51:43] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES_DES_CARAÏBES_3
- Input BD size: 39,97 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:48:31.101]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[17:51:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:51:43] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
[17:51:47]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[17:51:59] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES_DES_CARAÏBES_3
- Input BD size: 39,97 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:48:31.101]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[17:52:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:52:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [18:05:28] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [22:48:56] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [22:48:56] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [22:49:01] DoEncoding() 00009 8

and the inf file :
[Status]
LABEL=PIRATES_DES_CARAÏBES_3
VERSION=v0.20.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42912356352
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42912356352
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.193283167485941
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
[00001]
AUDIO=001100
PGS=001000000010
M2TS_TARGET=8294229035
RATE=3944
NSIZE=5274820608
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
M2TS_TARGET=7125
RATE=34

[mhammer]

The option is not official and it's only present in patched builds

I used Ripbot with custom profile.

But even with same x264 settings as Bd-Rb, its works just fine on my Bd-35.

Tried same x264 and tsmuxer version, Ripbot works, Bd-Rb doesn´t.

Maybe it has someting to do with the "ConvertToYV12()" in Avs script.

I would like to use Bd-Rb, but don´t know what to try next to get things working.

[Furiousflea]

It looks like BD-Rebuilder can't see "DTS Express" audio tracks and neither can tsmuxer...could be a problem? uhhh ohhhh ;)

disc in question is "Hancock". eac3to shows the track. BD-RB doesn't see it. tsmuxer says it encountered an "unrecognised track..."

[stef73]

the devil wears prada works fine on BD35 no playback issues at all

[mhammer]

the devil wears prada works fine on BD35 no playback issues at all

What Firmware on your BD35?

[Furiousflea]

It looks like BD-Rebuilder can't see "DTS Express" audio tracks and neither can tsmuxer...could be a problem? uhhh ohhhh ;)

disc in question is "Hancock". eac3to shows the track. BD-RB doesn't see it. tsmuxer says it encountered an "unrecognised track..."

...Just found this on the DTS website...

DTS uses a system called DTS Express to deliver Secondary or Sub Audio to your player. The DTS Express audio is mixed with the Primary Audio, giving you an intensely great interactive surround experience.

tsmuxer can't open this stuff, and it's used on a LOT of blurays with PIP tracks. I'd be curious to know what jdobbs has to say\thinks on the subject of PIP track and if this will cause a problem due to lack of muxing support...at least in the tsmuxer GUI.

[stef73]

What Firmware on your BD35?

hiya mhammer its latest 1.4 version

[tinker1971]

im using the latest build of bd rebuilder when i choose the keep hd audio for bd 25 i get no audio i get the other audio but no true hd im having to use tsmuxer to strip the true hd and remux into the film

[Furiousflea]

im using the latest build of bd rebuilder when i choose the keep hd audio for bd 25 i get no audio i get the other audio but no true hd im having to use tsmuxer to strip the true hd and remux into the film

That most likely won't work if becuase BDRB will have done other incorrect steps to the source causing the proble. It's not simply a case of swapping the tracks\track numbers in the m2ts.

There are some discs where BD-Rebuilder will incorrectly map the streams, normally discs with PIP.

What disc is it and does tsmuxer show the TrueHD track in the finished output from BDRB even though it's not playing...

[colinhunt]

Tested v0.20.05 for the first time last night. Did a Full Backup, but stripped one of the two TrueHD tracks. Process finished without problems. Burned the data on a BD-RE and it worked flawlessly on a PS3. Audio sync seems fine and PS3 reports it's playing a TrueHD track. I then tried to play the disc on a Panasonic DMP-BD55 and a Samsung P1500, and both refused to play the disc. (My apologies if this issue is already common knowledge.)

Panny tastes the disc and stops playback, showing STOP in its display. Samsung starts playing the disc, but stops at 0:00:00 and only a black screen is displayed. Dune BD Prime plays the disc, and so does a Sony S550.

[unixman2]

I then tried to play the disc on a Panasonic DMP-BD55 and a Samsung P1500, and both refused to play the disc. (My apologies if this issue is already common knowledge.)
Did you try to do a playback on your PC?

You could try doing a search "this thread" with keywords for your units while you're waiting for a response and that should help with already common knowledge issues. (not trying to flame)

You can check through this thread also: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145739

or this thread that speaks of compatible players: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=14467

Also post which title you are having a problem with.

[colinhunt]

Did you try to do a playback on your PC?
Not yet, no.

You could try doing a search "this thread" with keywords for your units while you're waiting for a response and that should help with already common knowledge issues. (not trying to flame)
Well, I wasn't looking for a response, simply reported my findings.

or this thread that speaks of compatible players
OK, so playback issues on Panasonics was old news :|

Also post which title you are having a problem with.
La Femme Nikita (US).

[tekmobile]

im using the latest build of bd rebuilder when i choose the keep hd audio for bd 25 i get no audio i get the other audio but no true hd im having to use tsmuxer to strip the true hd and remux into the film

Are you using the version of tsmuxer that was included with BD-RB if so thats your problem you need to replace it with 1.8.35

[mhammer]

I found the problem why my BD35 doesn´t play the reencodes in 24p.

Look at the video high: 1088 is wrong. Orginal is 1080.

If the Video is 1920x1080 all is fine.

@jdobbs: could you take a look at this! Thx

-- (done by Mediainfo)
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Duration : 9mn 59s
Bit rate : 25.1 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 088 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.501
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1136M 3f9ba82

[Furiousflea]

I found the problem why my BD35 doesn´t play the reencodes in 24p.

Look at the video high: 1088 is wrong. Orginal is 1080.

If the Video is 1920x1080 all is fine.

@jdobbs: could you take a look at this! Thx

-- (done by Mediainfo)
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Duration : 9mn 59s
Bit rate : 25.1 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 088 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.501
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1136M 3f9ba82

nope, 1088 is a valid vertical resolution believe it or not.

[mhammer]

nope, 1088 is a valid vertical resolution believe it or not.

But not for Blu-ray:

Resolution Frame rate Aspect ratio Codec
1920x1080 59.94-i, 50-i 16:9
1920x1080 24-p, 23.976-p 16:9
1920x800 24-p, 23.976-p 2.40:1
1440x1080 59.94-i, 50-i 16:9 MPEG-4 AVC / SMPTE VC-1 only
1440x1080 24-p, 23.976-p 16:9 MPEG-4 AVC / SMPTE VC-1 only
1280x720 59.94-p, 50-p 16:9
1280x720 24-p, 23.976-p 16:9
720x480 59.94-i 4:3/16:9
720x576 50-i 4:3/16:9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

[vcarter]

@jdobbs

with BD RB 0.20.05

in setup,because i wanted to keep dts i've only checked "do not convert dts to ac3".

i had this audio;DTS 1.5 mbps and now i got AC3 448 kbs

here's the ini

DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0

if i only got one audio track "do not convert dts to ac3" has priority on the other options, isn't it?

so if there's DTS_REENCODE=0,you can't also have AC3_REENCODE=1

if i got the solution,can i use the files in "workfiles"?

thanx

is there a solution for my problem,please?

bye

[tinker1971]

Are you using the version of tsmuxer that was included with BD-RB if so thats your problem you need to replace it with 1.8.35
no but i have just updated it cheers thanks for your reply:)

[Furiousflea]

But not for Blu-ray:

Resolution Frame rate Aspect ratio Codec
1920x1080 59.94-i, 50-i 16:9
1920x1080 24-p, 23.976-p 16:9
1920x800 24-p, 23.976-p 2.40:1
1440x1080 59.94-i, 50-i 16:9 MPEG-4 AVC / SMPTE VC-1 only
1440x1080 24-p, 23.976-p 16:9 MPEG-4 AVC / SMPTE VC-1 only
1280x720 59.94-p, 50-p 16:9
1280x720 24-p, 23.976-p 16:9
720x480 59.94-i 4:3/16:9
720x576 50-i 4:3/16:9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

I don't care what wikipedia doesn't say. I'm pretty sure I'm right. What do you mean "not for bluray"...What else would I be talking about in the BDRB thread?

[tinker1971]

no but i have just updated it cheers thanks for your reply:)
updated tsmuxer to the latest version worked great thanks for your help

[unixman2]

is there a solution for my problem,please?

It's hard to tell what your problem is. BDRebuider "will" extract the dts audio track properly if you don't keep the HD audio.


1. Start by reading this guide which will explain the proper use of the audio options if it's unclear to you. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145024

2. Make sure you are not using the version of tsmuxer that comes with 20.05, obtain the latest version, 1.8.35 works.

3. Start from scratch after you've done these 2 things. You could work from your working files, but it would be hard to explain if you only have basic experience with this stuff.

4. Try reading back through several days of this thread to get a feel of what others have been doing to solve their issues.

[drmih]

A bit of help please, slightly off topic.

I have just got Wallace and Gromit Loaf and Death and I'm going to make a back up before the kids have chance to trash it. The actual disc is only 9.5Gb, with the movie 6.5 Gb. I have run it through BD-RB fine and there is no issue. However, it's obvious that I can keep the main movie intact and only re-encode the extras. I therefore ran bd-rb again and forced a smaller custom size. This was fine and now I want to create a new structure. If I copy the m2ts and clpi file from the original everything functions correctly but I get dumped into the movie about halfway through. If I use the clpi from the bd-rb everything is fine except I can't access the True HD audio (it says Dolby Digital and there's no audio).
The question is which clpi (or other file) should I look to modify - the original with the wrong offset or the new one with the wrong audio flag. I have played a bit with bdedit, but can never figure a way of editing the audio streams, and have heard of fixclpi but that doesn't sound quite what I need.

[deank]

You'll need the original mpls file for the main movie, too. If it doesn't contain other m2ts files probably it will work.

[drmih]

You'll need the original mpls file for the main movie, too. If it doesn't contain other m2ts files probably it will work.

Thanks - that fixed it using the m2ts / clpi / mpls original files.

**Everything is fine on a PC but on a Sony standalone the main movie video and audio are very jerky - quite strange as they are untouched.

[vcarter]

It's hard to tell what your problem is. BDRebuider "will" extract the dts audio track properly if you don't keep the HD audio.


1. Start by reading this guide which will explain the proper use of the audio options if it's unclear to you. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145024

2. Make sure you are not using the version of tsmuxer that comes with 20.05, obtain the latest version, 1.8.35 works.

3. Start from scratch after you've done these 2 things. You could work from your working files, but it would be hard to explain if you only have basic experience with this stuff.

4. Try reading back through several days of this thread to get a feel of what others have been doing to solve their issues.

from what i can read

"The first option "Do no convert DTS to AC3". If this is selected and your bluray has a DTS\DTS-HD\DTSMA audio track, then it will not be re-encoded to AC3"

i can say there's a bug in 20.05,cause i get ac3 with this option selected.

may be it's tsmuxer,cause i've used the one in bdrb's package

@+

[DaMacFunkin]

Twilight Region B doesn't work, replaced tsmuxer with new one so i can keep HD audio (5.1 dts-hd master audio)
Summary of problem , disk boots fine, plays studio logos and trailers, goes to main menu - any attempt to play film either from play movie command or scene selection results in play looping back to main menu... any attempt to play extras results in audio, but no video :(
My reults are on panasonic BD30, i am no longer using fixclpi=0 since this was apparently fixed.
If you need any more details please let me know what.
p.s. if you count a lot of universal titles there is a mounting list of films that this program doesn't work with.... :scared:

[turbojet]

Twilight Region B doesn't work, replaced tsmuxer with new one so i can keep HD audio (5.1 dts-hd master audio)
Summary of problem , disk boots fine, plays studio logos and trailers, goes to main menu - any attempt to play film either from play movie command or scene selection results in play looping back to main menu... any attempt to play extras results in audio, but no video :(
My reults are on panasonic BD30, i am no longer using fixclpi=0 since this was apparently fixed.
If you need any more details please let me know what.
p.s. if you count a lot of universal titles there is a mounting list of films that this program doesn't work with.... :scared:

If you aren't already try a tsmuxer build between 1.8.30 and 1.8.34 like 1.8.30 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/tsMuxeR_1.8.30b.zip).
Older versions don't work well with HD audio, newer versions break playback in some standalones with bluray output (which BD-RB uses).

[stef73]

Twilight Region B doesn't work, replaced tsmuxer with new one so i can keep HD audio (5.1 dts-hd master audio)
Summary of problem , disk boots fine, plays studio logos and trailers, goes to main menu - any attempt to play film either from play movie command or scene selection results in play looping back to main menu... any attempt to play extras results in audio, but no video :(
My reults are on panasonic BD30, i am no longer using fixclpi=0 since this was apparently fixed.
If you need any more details please let me know what.
p.s. if you count a lot of universal titles there is a mounting list of films that this program doesn't work with.... :scared:

hiya mate i did twighlight yesterday and it plays perfectly well on my BD35

[GaPony]

It could have been an AnyDVD issue. There have been several beta releases over the past 24hrs. The current version is beta 6.5.3.9.

[DaMacFunkin]

If you aren't already try a tsmuxer build between 1.8.30 and 1.8.34 like 1.8.30 (http://www.videohelp.com/download/tsMuxeR_1.8.30b.zip).
Older versions don't work well with HD audio, newer versions break playback in some standalones with bluray output (which BD-RB uses).

Mmm i have already done a couple of disks with the new TS Muxer to keep HD Audio, and i havn't changed my anydvd this week, do you still think that is the problem? and if so will i lose HD Audio by going back to 1.8.30 and if so will i have to untick keep HD Audio :(

[turbojet]

If you already had some success with tsmuxer 1.8.35+ then it won't be that, it's just that the bluray output changed dramatically with these new versions and I haven't seen one report of a player that's working with it. 1.8.30 works fine with HD audio unless you have DTS MA and popcorn hour or tvix player.

[colinhunt]

Did South Park S12 D3 last night. Original disc is 26.6 GB and Full Backup turned out to be only 21.4 GB. So while the backup is undersized, it seems to be working perfectly, TrueHD audio and all. Used RB v0.20.05 with tsmuxer 1.9.1(b).

[Lif3styl3]

hi,

i've tried reenconding erin brokovich leaving true hd on disk,....

used actual bd-rebuilder and tsmuxxer 1.9.1(b).

the reencodes disc works on computer, laptop and my bd-55, but the sound is stuttering.

I've got this problem with any bd using keep hd audio.

I'always do a movie only backup with the following sound configuration:
keep hd audio = on
dts reencode = off
ac3 reencode = off
ac3_640 off

using tsmuxxer only to keep hd data, everything is ok,...., but the filsize is too high in some case so i have to use bd-rebuilder
any ideas ?

[stef73]

Mmm i have already done a couple of disks with the new TS Muxer to keep HD Audio, and i havn't changed my anydvd this week, do you still think that is the problem? and if so will i lose HD Audio by going back to 1.8.30 and if so will i have to untick keep HD Audio :(

hiya mate im using tsmuxer 1.8.35 and anydvd 6.5.2.6 and theyve all worked on panasonic BD35 but still not on my ps3

[DaMacFunkin]

hiya mate im using tsmuxer 1.8.35 and anydvd 6.5.2.6 and theyve all worked on panasonic BD35 but still not on my ps3

Looks like we are all searching for a definitive set up...

[deank]

The 'definitive' setup is to use the tools provided with BD-Rebuilder, not randomly update them to new versions - especially ones not tested by bdrb's author. Neither full backup or movie only will work for your PS3 (if you use DVD) if you're using the latest versions of tsmuxer - until jdobbs changes bdrb or/and the version he uses in the software.

[turbojet]

Normally I'd say that's true but jdobbs added HD audio support but didn't update tsmuxer with a version that worked with DTS-HD so if you are keeping it you'll get errors.

To reiterate 1.8.30 is the only one still available that has DTS-HD support and still supports PS3 and other SAPs that have always worked. 1.8.35 and 1.9.x versions break playback in PS3 for sure and probably other SAPs.

With anydvd it doesn't hurt to have the latest but if that's an issue it would throw errors in the anydvd log and during encoding and video would be all garbled it wouldn't just all of a sudden break playback on a standalone.

jdobbs: 720p sup's are still really error prone, please add support for BDSup2Sub in the next version so we can get 720 sup's as they are supposed to be. All that's required is java runtime environment a simple command line and < 30 seconds per sup.

[Furiousflea]

The 'definitive' setup is to use the tools provided with BD-Rebuilder, not randomly update them to new versions - especially ones not tested by bdrb's author. Neither full backup or movie only will work for your PS3 (if you use DVD) if you're using the latest versions of tsmuxer - until jdobbs changes bdrb or/and the version he uses in the software.

People are mainly using newer versions of tsmuxer than the one included with BDRB because the one included can't mux TrueHD correctly. You will get no audio at all on any stand alone, making the "keep HD audio" option useless for any disc that doesn't have DTSMA on.

[Furiousflea]

Normally I'd say that's true but jdobbs added HD audio support but didn't update tsmuxer with a version that worked with DTS HD so if you are keeping HD audio you'll get errors.

To reiterate 1.8.30 is the only one still available that has DTS-HD audio support and still supports PS3 and probably other SAPs that used to work, 1.8.35 and 1.9.x versions break playback in PS3 for sure.

With anydvd it doesn't hurt to have the latest but if that's an issue it would throw errors in the anydvd log and during encoding and video would be all garbled it would just all of a sudden break playback.

I think you mean TrueHD ;) DTSMA works fine for me with the one included on my sap Sony BDP-S550. Maybe the PS3 is a different story.

[turbojet]

Er ok I've never kept HD audio, but it's one of them.

[deank]

People are mainly using newer versions of tsmuxer than the one included with BDRB because the one included can't mux TrueHD correctly

I know why they're doing what they're doing, but when they decide on their own to use different tools than provided in BDRB version - no need to report it as a bug, because it's not.

[drmih]

Does anyone know how to track down the file(s) that are causing an issue with:

CorrectMPLS() 00009 5

As the process has almost completed (bd-rb actually says 100%), it can only be a case of the update to the playlist files and it may be possible to correct them using the originals.

[Carter]

i have 2 problems - i still cant figure out what the problem is.

1. bd rebuilder makes 2 pass encoding. i have a quad core. first pass it approx ~0.96 speed but the cores arnt loaded 100%. they are at about ~60% in total. second pass loades cores completely at 100% but speed is only ~0.50. Whats exactly the problem ?

2. why can i only choose x264 in the settings and not the ff version ? its greyed out

[tekmobile]

i have 2 problems - i still cant figure out what the problem is.

1. bd rebuilder makes 2 pass encoding. i have a quad core. first pass it approx ~0.96 speed but the cores arnt loaded 100%. they are at about ~60% in total. second pass loades cores completely at 100% but speed is only ~0.50. Whats exactly the problem ?

2. why can i only choose x264 in the settings and not the ff version ? its greyed out

1st Pass is always much faster than the second no matter what encoder you use and you can only select x264 because the code for ffmpeg is not implemented and may never be

[colinhunt]

Another undersized Full Backup, this time a more severe one. Tested v0.20.05 (with tsmuxer 1.9.1(b)) on Ghost in the Shell 2.0 by removing the Japanese LPCM 2.0 track and leaving everything else intact. Original disc is 24.3 GB and the LPCM track accounts for approx. 1.5 GB -- yet the backup is only 17.8 GB.

[Furiousflea]

Another undersized Full Backup, this time a more severe one. Tested v0.20.05 (with tsmuxer 1.9.1(b)) on Ghost in the Shell 2.0 by removing the Japanese LPCM 2.0 track and leaving everything else intact. Original disc is 24.3 GB and the LPCM track accounts for approx. 1.5 GB -- yet the backup is only 17.8 GB.

NOT A BUG

It's becausse it's anime and compresses like crazy and the bitrate has reached saturation.

It's pointless backing up anime to anything larger than a DVD9. Even if you're doing a full disc. If jdobbs would allow it you could prolly even fit a DTSMA\TrueHD\LPCM track on there too.

(assuming you have a bluray player that can play DVD9) :)

[Furiousflea]

hi,

i've tried reenconding erin brokovich leaving true hd on disk,....

used actual bd-rebuilder and tsmuxxer 1.9.1(b).

the reencodes disc works on computer, laptop and my bd-55, but the sound is stuttering.

I've got this problem with any bd using keep hd audio.

I'always do a movie only backup with the following sound configuration:
keep hd audio = on
dts reencode = off
ac3 reencode = off
ac3_640 off

using tsmuxxer only to keep hd data, everything is ok,...., but the filsize is too high in some case so i have to use bd-rebuilder
any ideas ?

Edit - sorry didn't read your post properly. You could still try a different version of tsmuxer as bdrb doesn't really do anything to the audio except run it through some basic tool that is included with bdrb and nobody has had a problem with it. Are you sure you were using the same version of tsmuxer that worked ok with bdrb?

[DaMacFunkin]

I know why they're doing what they're doing, but when they decide on their own to use different tools than provided in BDRB version - no need to report it as a bug, because it's not.
Got a bug, you can't keep HD audio, even though the option to keep it has been added....
Is that any better????

[vcarter]

I know why they're doing what they're doing, but when they decide on their own to use different tools than provided in BDRB version - no need to report it as a bug, because it's not.

so if i only use tools provided in bdrb 20.05 package,and that i got ac3 even with only "do not convert dts to ac3" checked,can i say it's a bug?

using another tsmuxer isn't a solution in a topic called "BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only" cause we have to find bugs with the package provided.

and if jddobs give us just an exe (not a sfx for sure),how would you change the tools compiled?

[DaMacFunkin]

Retried this withtsmuxer 1.8.30 and still got the same prob with the movie, and now the extras that played audio with no video, now just attempt to play (black screen, couple of resolution changes) then back to main menu..???
If anyone has done a full back up of twilight region b, could you please forward all settings and tools revisons please... i am currently gonna re-rip using the good friday release of anydvd, so i will check back in a couple of hours ( :eek: oh my god)
LOL

[archaeo]

After a number of tries, I've been unable to backup the BD disc 'Cloverfield'.

All audio/sub extractions go fine, but it will not encode - failed, retry, abort.

I was pulling my hair out on this one since I originally suspected it was a problem with ffdshow/matroska (based on other posts), but after numerous attempts at reinstalling various programs (including ffdshow, avisynth, matroska, etc) I went back and tried a disc that was previously successful, and voila, that particular title went into the reencode flawlessly, so the system/configuration appears good.
I can only infer that it's this particular title.
I'm not sure what else to try to get it to encode :(

Here's the data:

LOG:
[21:10:01] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: CLOVERFIELD
- Input BD size: 23.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:24:40.533]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[21:10:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:10:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [21:21:57] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 6,165 Kbs
- [21:21:57] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:22:01] - Failed video encode, aborted


INF:
[Status]
LABEL=CLOVERFIELD
VERSION=v0.20.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24852836352
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24852836352
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=.184334233691252
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=1000000
M2TS_TARGET=4581228544
RATE=6165


AVS:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.20.05 (beta)
DirectshowSource("X:\BLURAY\CLOVERFIELD\CLOVERFIELD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=121811, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()

[Sharc]

Is the source VC-1 or AVC encoded? (You find this in the Stream Tab of BD-RB GUI, or by opening the m2ts in MediaInfo)
Can you play the AVS in MPC?
Can you play the m2ts in MPC-HC?

[tekmobile]

Is the source VC-1 or AVC encoded? (You find this in the Stream Tab of BD-RB GUI, or by opening the m2ts in MediaInfo)
Can you play the AVS in MPC?
Can you play the m2ts in MPC-HC?

I believe that title is VC-1

[archaeo]

Is the source VC-1 or AVC encoded? (You find this in the Stream Tab of BD-RB GUI, or by opening the m2ts in MediaInfo)
Can you play the AVS in MPC?
Can you play the m2ts in MPC-HC?


Yes, it is VC-1.
EDIT: In MPC it is described as 'WVC-1', and it will not play.

Interestingly, my other disc that I tried numerous times to re-encode (ie: 'How the West was Won') is also a WVC-1 and this also will not play in MPC.

From MPC:

Media Type 1:
--------------------------
Video: WVC1 1920x1080 23.98fps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {31435657-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_VideoInfo {05589F80-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 0
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 122

[Sharc]

Yes, VC-1
Haven't yet tried to play in MPC, since I don't have that installed.
I haven't seen the BluRay version of CLOVERFIELD. From the DVD version I guess that it was shot with a video camera, possibly interlaced or perhaps even worse hybrid progressive/interlaced which causes a headache for decoding.
Still, you may want to check the settings of the ffdshow codec: If you have WMP11 installed you should deactivate the VC-1 in ffdshow. If you don't have WMP installed in your systen you should set the ffdshow VC-1 decoder to wmv9. If it's purely interlaced it should help.
(You find more on this subject somewhere earlier in this thread.)

[colinhunt]

It's becausse it's anime and compresses like crazy and the bitrate has reached saturation.
Yeah, I know how well modern, clean anime compresses. Ghost in the Shell 2.0 however has noise, grain and gradients so it doesn't compress quite as well.

Anyways, I did another compress of a live-action shot-on-film movie last night and it came out severely undersized as well. Japanese release of a movie called "Chapter 27"; original disc is 26 GB and Full Backup came out as 18,7 GB. All I did was remove one audio track (approx. 1GB).

It's pointless backing up anime to anything larger than a DVD9. Even if you're doing a full disc.
Well, that's something we'll have to agree to disagree on :)

[archaeo]

I haven't seen the BluRay version of CLOVERFIELD. From the DVD version I guess that it was shot with a video camera, possibly interlaced or perhaps even worse hybrid progressive/interlaced which causes a headache for decoding.
Still, you may want to check the settings of the ffdshow codec: If you have WMP11 installed you should deactivate the VC-1 in ffdshow. If you don't have WMP installed in your systen you should set the ffdshow VC-1 decoder to wmv9. If it's purely interlaced it should help.
(You find more on this subject somewhere earlier in this thread.)

Thanks... I set the VC-1 to wmv9 (it was diabled) which didn't help. I may be missing some codec or another.

EDIT: I went back and set the VC-1 codec to libavcodec, and success! MPC did play the m2ts.
I'm going to try to run it through BDRB again right now..

[tekmobile]

Thanks... I went ahead and set the VC-1 to wmv9 (it was diabled) which didn't help. I may be missing some codec or another.

So what have you (or others) used that will consistently play these stubborn VC-1 files?
Has VLC been working with the latest builds?

I'm thinking about installing the XP-Codec-Pack 2.4.6, which includes a full MPC as well as a gamut of other codecs. I'm just concerned that it may override some of ffdshow's settings and possibly bork the whole setup...

All I have installed is FFDshow no other codecs and wouldnt recommend it either
MPEG2: FFDshow libavcodec
AVC: FFDshow libavcodec
VC-1: FFDshow disabled (defaults to WMV codec from WMP)

FFDshow Version: ffdshow tryouts revision 2275 Oct 26 2008

Everything works that i throw at it apart from mixed i/p VC-1 which just causes x264 to crash the same as everyone else

[archaeo]

All I have installed is FFDshow no other codecs and wouldnt recommend it either
MPEG2: FFDshow libavcodec
AVC: FFDshow libavcodec
VC-1: FFDshow disabled (defaults to WMV codec from WMP)

FFDshow Version: ffdshow tryouts revision 2275 Oct 26 2008

Everything works that i throw at it apart from mixed i/p VC-1 which just causes x264 to crash the same as everyone else

Thanks for the feedback -

I just ran Cloverfield again using the VC-1 codec libavcodec, and it's working :) Finally. Hopefully it will work throughout.

[Furiousflea]

Yeah, I know how well modern, clean anime compresses. Ghost in the Shell 2.0 however has noise, grain and gradients so it doesn't compress quite as well.

Anyways, I did another compress of a live-action shot-on-film movie last night and it came out severely undersized as well. Japanese release of a movie called "Chapter 27"; original disc is 26 GB and Full Backup came out as 18,7 GB. All I did was remove one audio track (approx. 1GB).


Well, that's something we'll have to agree to disagree on :)

It's not my opinion. It is the community at large's opinion :)

But anyway, another reason for your undersizing is that BDRB imposes a bitrate limit on the video that is lower than the actual bluray specification.

What you are experiencing is definately saturation, no doubt about it. If your sources are 25GB or thereabouts you're not going to get output of 22.5GB or whatever the default jdobbs has it set as.

It's not a bug, it's just that space isn't needed. It's a bug in x264 if anything which isn't something jdobbs can really do anything about. The artificial bitrate limit jdobbs imposes is there for poor media\you don't need a limit higher than what he has set (in his opinion).

[colinhunt]

It's not my opinion. It is the community at large's opinion :)
Argumentum ad populum; also, the studios and authoring shops appear to disagree by releasing two-hour anime films as 30-40 GB encodes with average bitrates of over 35mbps. But yeah, whatever :)

It's not a bug, it's just that space isn't needed. It's a bug in x264 if anything which isn't something jdobbs can really do anything about. The artificial bitrate limit jdobbs imposes is there for poor media\you don't need a limit higher than what he has set (in his opinion).
OK, that explains it. Cheers.

Edit: also have to mention that BDRB has, all in all, worked marvelously well for me. I've done 5 full backups with it and every one has gone through without a hitch on first try. Kudos to jdobbs; there's definitely another donation looming in the horizon.

[Dark Shikari]

It's not a bug, it's just that space isn't needed. It's a bug in x264 if anythingNo it isn't, it's entirely intentional behavior. x264 abides by the qpmin value--if it didn't, that would be a bug. If jdobbs wants x264 to waste bitrate arbitrarily as necessary (roughly equivalent in result to throwing a bunch of zeroes at the end of the file) to reach the exact filesize, he can set qpmin to zero.

[Furiousflea]

No it isn't, it's entirely intentional behavior. x264 abides by the qpmin value--if it didn't, that would be a bug. If jdobbs wants x264 to waste bitrate arbitrarily as necessary (roughly equivalent in result to throwing a bunch of zeroes at the end of the file) to reach the exact filesize, he can set qpmin to zero.

I knew I shouldn't have put it like that...Was just trying to make it clear that the "undersizing" is more due to x264 than a bug in BDRB. Of course the undersizing is a good thing in terms of efficiency but to some people who don't realise the bits aren't needed they might not realise that it's a positive and their source not needing the bits is the "problem".

"undersizing" implies a bug. But it isn't and that is what I was trying to get across.

[Furiousflea]

Argumentum ad populum; also, the studios and authoring shops appear to disagree by releasing two-hour anime films as 30-40 GB encodes with average bitrates of over 35mbps. But yeah, whatever :)


OK, that explains it. Cheers.

Edit: also have to mention that BDRB has, all in all, worked marvelously well for me. I've done 5 full backups with it and every one has gone through without a hitch on first try. Kudos to jdobbs; there's definitely another donation looming in the horizon.

:) aye mate, wasn't trying to start a "I'm right your wrong". Again I was a little brash with my assertion. I should have just said anime compresses better than live action film and a source that is already very close to fitting on a BD25 could well undersize, regardless of it being quite rough. Main point being that it isn't really a problem as such, blame x264 for being too good at it's job ;)

[meatwad]

Retried this withtsmuxer 1.8.30 and still got the same prob with the movie, and now the extras that played audio with no video, now just attempt to play (black screen, couple of resolution changes) then back to main menu..???
If anyone has done a full back up of twilight region b, could you please forward all settings and tools revisons please... i am currently gonna re-rip using the good friday release of anydvd, so i will check back in a couple of hours ( :eek: oh my god)
LOL


I tried substituting 1.8.30 as well and got the same results you did for full disc. It probably works fine for movie only but I can confirm that extras won't play if you use 1.8.30. Has anyone tried 1.9.7(b) yet?

[archaeo]

Update: BD disc 'Cloverfield' backed up successfully using ffdshow libavcodec enabled for VC-1.

[Lif3styl3]

Edit - sorry didn't read your post properly. You could still try a different version of tsmuxer as bdrb doesn't really do anything to the audio except run it through some basic tool that is included with bdrb and nobody has had a problem with it. Are you sure you were using the same version of tsmuxer that worked ok with bdrb?

i'am using the discribed version, which works fine with bd rebuilder. only the hd data would not be feteched correct.

so far as i know, the version which is delivered by bdreb doesn't support fetching hd data.

using the newest tsmuxxer version fetching hd data with tsmuxxer only works, but i combination with bdrb i've got stuttering hd data

[Furiousflea]

Someone mentioed using tsmuxer 1.8.30b was a good combination to retain HD audio correctly and no picture problems on some player.

I tried this version and I got problems just getting my SAP Sony BDP-S550 (which is the most compatible player series available) to recognise the disc. Won't even load it, showing an error message on my LCD display.


I'm using 1.8.35b with ZERO problems and I'd recommend to at least try that.

I think 1.9.7 will clear up a lot of problems but I tried that too with no success but I think this is because it has couple of very big changes that need new switches from BDRB to select the right output type (bluray\avchd).

[k-c-ksum]

Yeah, I know how well modern, clean anime compresses. Ghost in the Shell 2.0 however has noise, grain and gradients so it doesn't compress quite as well.

Anyways, I did another compress of a live-action shot-on-film movie last night and it came out severely undersized as well. Japanese release of a movie called "Chapter 27"; original disc is 26 GB and Full Backup came out as 18,7 GB. All I did was remove one audio track (approx. 1GB).


Well, that's something we'll have to agree to disagree on :)

just use tsmuxer to remove unwnted audio if the original is just a shade over 25gb

[Furiousflea]

just use tsmuxer to remove unwnted audio if the original is just a shade over 25gb

He will only have the movie only then though, I suspect that since he chose "full disc" mode he wanted everything except audio intact.

[punisher12]

Hi guys,

I am getting the same error after installing the updated bd rebuilder on several titles, tried national treasure again as i still had it ripped on the H/D and got this error.

[17:22:30] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: NATIONAL_TREASURE_GBR
- Input BD size: 32.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:11:04.481]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[17:22:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:22:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00136]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[17:22:31] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborte

updated all the relevent tools provided as well in case it was those.

Any chance I can have the old version back to download/install? I'm halfway through my collection and it worked brilliantly for me.

[DIEGO7-5]

Hi guys,
Any chance I can have the old version back to download/install? I'm halfway through my collection and it worked brilliantly for me.

Try this

http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV02005.zip

and change 2005 to 2004 for example.

[unixman2]

Hi guys,

I am getting the same error after installing the updated bd rebuilder on several titles, tried national treasure again as i still had it ripped on the H/D and got this error.


- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[17:22:31] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborte

updated all the relevent tools provided as well in case it was those.

Well, you didn't indicate what version of tsmuxer you are using with BDRB. As a personal rule with me, I don't just keep updating stuff to be updating. I keep 2 copies of BDRB with 2 different versions of tsmuxer. Copy #1 is 1.8.35(b) which has been working perfectly with HD audio and I work with copy # 2 that has the newest version. That way if ever I run into an issue, I don't have to scratch my head wondering, I just go back to my baseline with copy #1 to rule out the newer tsmuxer.

When I ran into an issue like yours, I was short disk space so as a general rule make sure you have atleast 45-50GB of FREE space before running BDRB. Also, I would suggest going back to one of the previous versions of txmuxer.

One other thing, rarely do you need an older copy of BDRB, the problem usually lies somewhere else.

[punisher12]

Try this

http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV02005.zip

and change 2005 to 2004 for example.

cheers the older version i have comes up with the error message beta expired need to update to newer version.

[punisher12]

Well, you didn't indicate what version of tsmuxer you are using with BDRB. As a personal rule with me, I don't just keep updating stuff to be updating. I keep 2 copies of BDRB with 2 different versions of tsmuxer. Copy #1 is 1.8.35(b) which has been working perfectly with HD audio and I work with copy # 2 that has the newest version. That way if ever I run into an issue, I don't have to scratch my head wondering, I just go back to my baseline with copy #1 to rule out the newer tsmuxer.

When I ran into an issue like yours, I was short disk space so as a general rule make sure you have atleast 45-50GB of FREE space before running BDRB. Also, I would suggest going back to one of the previous versions of txmuxer.

One other thing, rarely do you need an older copy of BDRB, the problem usually lies somewhere else.

thats great, got more than enough H/D space, the old bd rebuilder comes up with beta expired need to update version for me, if i could get the old one back i would be more than happy as I have completed 30 + copies without one coaster.

[Furiousflea]

thats great, got more than enough H/D space, the old bd rebuilder comes up with beta expired need to update version for me, if i could get the old one back i would be more than happy as I have completed 30 + copies without one coaster.

Use that thing inside your head you were borne with.

You know how to change the date and time in windows....right?

DO NOT REPORT ANY BUGS YOU GET WITH THE OLD VERSION. YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN IF YOU USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE LATEST VERSION.

[punisher12]

Use that thing inside your head you were borne with.

You know how to change the date and time in windows....right?

DO NOT REPORT ANY BUGS YOU GET WITH THE OLD VERSION. YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN IF YOU USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE LATEST VERSION.

I WAS REPORTING A BUG WITH THE LATEST VERSION, GENIUS

AND WANTED THE PREVIOUS BETA RELEASE TO CONTINUE COPYING WHILST THE PROBLEM
THAT I AND SEVERAL OTHERS HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH THE LATEST RELEASE.

:eek:

[Furiousflea]

I WAS REPORTING A BUG WITH THE LATEST VERSION, GENIUS

AND WANTED THE PREVIOUS BETA RELEASE TO CONTINUE COPYING WHILST THE PROBLEM
THAT I AND SEVERAL OTHERS HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH THE LATEST RELEASE.

:eek:

I know ;)

jdobbs has expressed his view that no support should be given whatsoever on old versions. I was saying this pre-emptively so if you have a problem with it. Don't expect any help, his reasoning for this is because the problem you potentially could have using old versions could have been fixed in newer versions.

The primary concern with this thread is to fix bugs for an eventually proper non beta release. Not to help people make and enjoy working backups. I have done the same thing as you in the past and was told to not expect any help with old releases. I was just echoing that sentiment before you post again with a problem with an old version. This is not being critical, rude or heavy handed. Just posting for you information.

All the old releases are available at http://www.videohelp.com

Do a seach for "bd-rebuilder".

There are some serious bugs in older versions, especially the last couple before 0.20.05 (current latest as of this post). One of which will prevent backups of discs where you have selected to keep HD audio altogether.

It is fairly obvious the first port of call in the event of any "....expired" message would be to change your system clock back. The reason jdobbs has gone to the lengths to impose the expired message is because he really doesn't want people using old versions.

Anyway, good luck to you and hope it works out with the older version. :)

[punisher12]

I know ;)

jdobbs has expressed his view that no support should be given whatsoever on old versions. I was saying this pre-emptively so if you have a problem with it. Don't expect any help, his reasoning for this is because the problem you potentially could have using old versions could have been fixed in newer versions.

The primary concern with this thread is to fix bugs for an eventually proper non beta release. Not to help people make and enjoy working backups. I have done the same thing as you in the past and was told to not expect any help with old releases. I was just echoing that sentiment before you post again with a problem with an old version. This is not being critical, rude or heavy handed. Just posting for you information.

All the old releases are available at http://www.videohelp.com

Do a seach for "bd-rebuilder".

There are some serious bugs in older versions, especially the last couple before 0.20.05 (current latest as of this post). One of which will prevent backups of discs where you have selected to keep HD audio altogether.

It is fairly obvious the first port of call in the event of any "....expired" message would be to change your system clock back. The reason jdobbs has gone to the lengths to impose the expired message is because he really doesn't want people using old versions.

Anyway, good luck to you and hope it works out with the older version. :)


Thanks m8ty, changed the time and the older version worked straight away, when i have time i can work at fixing the latest version to work for me as something has changed that my setup didnt like.

only another 30 to go!! so prob. a months worth of work!! LOL!!

[MikeyBK]

LOL FuriousFlea, you get no love for being the BD-RB support intern here huh???.. :p:)

I've not had any issues with all the latest releases of BD-RB. All to BD-9 without worrying about HD audio of course. All BD-9s play incredibly crisp on my 42" 1080p HDTV, 'AND' the AC3 sound is 'thunderous' to say the least... ;)
Gotta be around 50 Blurays backed-up by now.

I have only appreciation and thanks to JDobbs for this great program.........

[GaPony]

Same here... 20.05 has worked very well when working with BD9 and BD25 discs.

Only 50 movies??? Rookie! ;)

[turbojet]

Someone mentioed using tsmuxer 1.8.30b was a good combination to retain HD audio correctly and no picture problems on some player.

I tried this version and I got problems just getting my SAP Sony BDP-S550 (which is the most compatible player series available) to recognise the disc. Won't even load it, showing an error message on my LCD display.


I'm using 1.8.35b with ZERO problems and I'd recommend to at least try that.

I think 1.9.7 will clear up a lot of problems but I tried that too with no success but I think this is because it has couple of very big changes that need new switches from BDRB to select the right output type (bluray\avchd).

That's very odd as 1.8.30 uses the same basic output except for the fixed TrueHD that 1.8.18 that comes with BD-RB uses.

1.8.35 was the first version of the major change to bluray output and it has some not working reports as a standalone app and a few days later a 'fixed' 1.9.1 version came out.

[Furiousflea]

That's very odd as 1.8.30 uses the same basic output except for the fixed TrueHD that 1.8.18 that comes with BD-RB uses.

1.8.35 was the first version of the major change to bluray output and it has some not working reports as a standalone app and a few days later a 'fixed' 1.9.1 version came out.

I don't know what to say to that then :confused:

Don't really want to go back and try again just in case it doesn't work. I can't be sure of course than the backups I'm making will work on all SAPs like the PS3 for example.

Just reporting my findings with my BDP-S550. Could have been a strange couple of discs, who knows. I do know that BDRB reported no errors however.

Make of it what you will :)

[unixman2]

[17:22:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:22:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00136]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[17:22:31] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted



Hey punisher, are you still having this problem? I have two more ideas. If you haven't already, pick a previous movie that is similar (same video and audio type) to the one you're having problem with that has worked to see if that movie has an issue. If it fails also then you know something has changed on your computer and for a longshot, boot to safe mode and run BDRB on the movie again to see if you get the same results.


Update: I ran into ths issue again with another movie today, it's AVP 2 for Blu-ray with DTS HD MA while using BDRB2005 with tsmuxer _1.9.9(b) to BD-25. I found a workabound for my problem by running the same movie files through tsMuxeRGUI_1.9.9 (confirimed version) and I extracte only the HD video file and the DTS-HD audio file output to Blu-ray disk files. Then I used the same copy of BDRB again, which failed previously using the same ver./copy of tsmuxer copy) and this time BDRB was able to do it's thing. (I'll let the experts speculate as where the problem might be)

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi!

I have again problems with a Universal disc: Bourne Identity (EUR).

Full Copy to BD25.

Regardless to what I do in BD-RB, the movie does not start when I choose Play movie in the menu.

The time index stays at 00:00 and the screen stays black.

I also tried to set the MIN_M2TS_SIZE=2000. In this case, only the main movie was encoded, all the extras were only copied from the disc. Also no effect, problem stays the same.

Bye

[Bundy00]

Hi there,

I have a problem with this constellation:

I've re-encoded Hellboy2 (full to BD25) without any errors with latest Rebuilder version, latest TsMuxeR version.
(I get around the problem with VC1 interlaced by using the INI para MIN_M2TS_SIZE=460).

When I try to play it with my Pana BD35 (Firmware 1.4) I get the Universal trailer and then the main menu.

If I choose the language (no matter if german or english) nothing happens and player just stops. (It really shows STOP in the panel display).

Some days ago I did a full rebuild of Quantum of Solace.
Here I ran into the Pana 24p issue - plays fine with 24p disabled but only sound with 24p enabled. (During rebuild I had an older TsMuxeR in place).

But why is Hellboy2 just stopping in the main menu??

Any idea?

Have a nice day!

[tekmobile]

Ive got Full Metal Jacket (Deluxe Version) here that im wanting to do but the full disc is only 1.5GB over the BD25 limit by just removing the LPCM track and leaving just the DD5.1 it will easily fit on a BD25 without any re encoding.

My question is it possible for BD-RB to do this just yet because its wanting to reencode the video when its simply not required

I tried to do it manually by remapping the audio tracks in the mpls, updating the clpi etc and it did play but the IN, OUT and chapter marks in the mpls were wrong because I dont know what values to use with the modified m2ts

[unixman2]

Ive got Full Metal Jacket (Deluxe Version) here that im wanting to do but the full disc is only 1.5GB over the BD25 limit by just removing the LPCM track and leaving just the DD5.1 it will easily fit on a BD25 without any re encoding.

My question is it possible for BD-RB to do this just yet because its wanting to reencode the video when its simply not required

I tried to do it manually by remapping the audio tracks in the mpls, updating the clpi etc and it did play but the IN, OUT and chapter marks in the mpls were wrong because I dont know what values to use with the modified m2ts

I think txMuxeRGUI should handle that. You should be able to load in all of the files for a full movie, then just remove some of the unwanted audio tracks and output to Blu-ray disk.

[pfreak]

i become every time the same failure

The Blu Ray is "Tiesto - elements of Life"

http://www.pic-upload.de/view-1893362/tiesto.jpg.html

[tekmobile]

I think txMuxeRGUI should handle that. You should be able to load in all of the files for a full movie, then just remove some of the unwanted audio tracks and output to Blu-ray disk.

Yes TsMuxer can do this but im wanting to keep the full disc and not movie only

[turbojet]

tekmobile: have you tried something like I explained here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274432#post1274432)?
Someone else came up with this hack a few months ago and described it better but I can't find it. But indeed it would be nice if BD-Rebuilder could handle this without encoding the video or even an external app that could blank/replace/strip streams.

jdobbs: I think the stream removal isn't quite right in full backup mode. Seems powerDVD and possibly some standalones can see and select the streams. I have a feeling it because the mpls files aren't updated. I've uploaded bd-rb and 'corrected' clpi and mpls files (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?kyijiwdjww4) if you could take a look it would be much appreciated. Also BDSup2Sub integration for 720p subs or bd-rb resizing properly would be a nice bug fix.

[tekmobile]

tekmobile: have you tried something like I explained here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274432#post1274432)?
Someone else came up with this hack a few months ago and described it better but I can't find it. But indeed it would be nice if BD-Rebuilder could handle this without encoding the video or even an external app that could blank/replace/strip streams.

jdobbs: I think the stream removal isn't quite right in full backup mode. Seems powerDVD and possibly some standalones can see and select the streams. I have a feeling it because the mpls files aren't updated. I've uploaded bd-rb and 'corrected' clpi and mpls files (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?kyijiwdjww4) if you could take a look it would be much appreciated. Also BDSup2Sub integration for 720p subs or bd-rb resizing properly would be a nice bug fix.

In theory that will work but the only problem is the mpls is missing audiotracks that the menu is referencing

I edited the orig playlist and just re mapped the missing LPCM audio track to kept DD and also had to remap all the tracks following because they didnt match the ones in the clpi I might try taking the IN, OUT and Chapter marks from the mpls that TsMuxer outputted unless I can add the missing menu referenced tracks to the mpls

[turbojet]

LPCM is the first audio track?

If so I can understand the issue of audio tracks getting out of order with the menu buttons/commands.

It would really be nice if an app that blanks/strips/replaces/command editor through menu button navigation and also could blank other titles not called by the menu existed for BD but I don't know if anyone with knowledge would be up to the task.

[tekmobile]

Audio mapping bug
The audio streams in the mpls don't match the ones in the clpi (see images) also the eng/spa subs are mixed up

Audio/Subs (order in RB files)
CLPI
PID1100 Eng DTSHD - correct
PID1101 Eng DD - correct
PID1102 Eng DD - correct
PID1103 Fra DD - correct
PID1200 Eng Sub - correct
PID1201 Fra Sub - correct
PID1202 Spa Sub - correct
MPLS
PID1100 Eng DTSHD - correct
PID1101 Fra DD - wrong - ends up as english commentry track (1102)
PID1102 Eng DD - wrong - ends up as english commentry track (1103)
PID1103 Eng DD - wrong - ends up as Fra track
PID1200 Eng Sub - correct
PID1201 Spa Sub - wrong - ends up as Fra subs
PID1202 Fra Sub - wrong - ends up as hard of hearing subs

Audio/Subs (order in orig files)
CLPI
PID1100 Eng DTSHD
PID1101 Eng DD
PID1102 Eng DD
PID1200 Eng Sub
PID1201 Fra Sub
PID1202 Spa Sub (Really Eng Hard Hearing subs)
PID1103 Fra DD
MPLS
PID1100 Eng DTSHD
PID1103 Fra DD
PID1101 Eng DD
PID1102 Eng DD
PID1200 Eng Sub
PID1202 Spa Sub (Really Eng Hard Hearing subs)
PID1201 Fra Sub

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3534/clpi.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5253/mpls.jpg

[liquidskin76]

Audio mapping bug
The audio streams in the mpls don't match the ones in the clpi (see images) also the eng/spa subs are mixed up

Audio/Subs (order in RB files)
CLPI
PID1100 Eng DTSHD - correct
PID1101 Eng DD - correct
PID1102 Eng DD - correct
PID1103 Fra DD - correct
PID1200 Eng Sub - correct
PID1201 Fra Sub - correct
PID1202 Spa Sub - correct
MPLS
PID1100 Eng DTSHD - correct
PID1101 Fra DD - wrong - ends up as english commentry track (1102)
PID1102 Eng DD - wrong - ends up as english commentry track (1103)
PID1103 Eng DD - wrong - ends up as Fra track
PID1200 Eng Sub - correct
PID1201 Spa Sub - wrong - ends up as Fra subs
PID1202 Fra Sub - wrong - ends up as hard of hearing subs

Audio/Subs (order in orig files)
CLPI
PID1100 Eng DTSHD
PID1101 Eng DD
PID1102 Eng DD
PID1200 Eng Sub
PID1201 Fra Sub
PID1202 Spa Sub (Really Eng Hard Hearing subs)
PID1103 Fra DD
MPLS
PID1100 Eng DTSHD
PID1103 Fra DD
PID1101 Eng DD
PID1102 Eng DD
PID1200 Eng Sub
PID1202 Spa Sub (Really Eng Hard Hearing subs)
PID1201 Fra Sub

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3534/clpi.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5253/mpls.jpg

I'm seeing similar results with '300' (UK version), full backup to BD25, retaining original Dolby TrueHD audio. BD-RB is set to retain only English audio tracks.

The audio isn't matching the choices on the disc's pop-up menu. First option is standard 5.1 Dolby, however TrueHD plays. Second option is TrueHD, however standard 5.1 Dolby plays.

[Furiousflea]

I'm seeing similar results with '300' (UK version), full backup to BD25, retaining original Dolby TrueHD audio. BD-RB is set to retain only English audio tracks.

The audio isn't matching the choices on the disc's pop-up menu. First option is standard 5.1 Dolby, however TrueHD plays. Second option is TrueHD, however standard 5.1 Dolby plays.

I reported the exact same thing a week or so ago.

It seems this discs has a PIP track...

However I got my jap import of Sin City backed up yesterday too and that also has swapped audio streams (plays with commentry to begin with) have to select commentry to get it to play the TrueHD track. All tracks are selectable but they are all mapped incorrectly.

However Sin City doesn't have a PIP track.

I can confirm that on all the discs I do, I can still select all the audio tracks...

Tekmobile...are you saying this shouldn't be the case

[tekmobile]

I reported the exact same thing a week or so ago.

It seems this discs has a PIP track...

However I got my jap import of Sin City backed up yesterday too and that also has swapped audio streams (plays with commentry to begin with) have to select commentry to get it to play the TrueHD track. All tracks are selectable but they are all mapped incorrectly.

However Sin City doesn't have a PIP track.

I can confirm that on all the discs I do, I can still select all the audio tracks...

Tekmobile...are you saying this shouldn't be the case

I can select all the audio tracks and they all play but apart from the 1st one all the rest are incorrectly mapped

Its fixable using BDedit by changing the PIDs in the MPLS to match the correct streams in the CLPI file

This seems to happen when the PIDs in the MPLS are not in the same sequence with the ones in the CLPI because BD-RB always writes them in sequence (PiP tracks are usually at the end but after TsMuxer has remuxed the streams it places them to the top throwing out the correct sequence)

[tekmobile]

Ive got Full Metal Jacket (Deluxe Version) here that im wanting to do but the full disc is only 1.5GB over the BD25 limit by just removing the LPCM track and leaving just the DD5.1 it will easily fit on a BD25 without any re encoding.

My question is it possible for BD-RB to do this just yet because its wanting to reencode the video when its simply not required

I tried to do it manually by remapping the audio tracks in the mpls, updating the clpi etc and it did play but the IN, OUT and chapter marks in the mpls were wrong because I dont know what values to use with the modified m2ts

Sorted this out now using TsMuxer and a HexEditor (might seem weird but works perfect)

I demuxed the english AC3 track then built a blu-ray structure from the movie using the movie MPLS and keeping the orig chapter times replacing the orig LPCM with the demuxed AC3 so there are 2 copies if this track (I had plenty of free space) giving the correct number of Audio tracks as the orig, I then checked and corrected any mapping issues on the output with BD edit renamed the M2TS/CLPI to match the orig and used a HexEditor on the MPLS to correct the M2TS then
copied the modded files back to the orig structure.

[liquidskin76]

I reported the exact same thing a week or so ago.

It seems this discs has a PIP track...

I've just checked and it appears that the UK version of '300' doesn't have a PIP track.

[Furiousflea]

I've just checked and it appears that the UK version of '300' doesn't have a PIP track.

Just checked again, you are right :p

[DIVX2009]

Fail recode Bourne Ultimatum vc1...
vc1 is not compatible whit bd rebuilder???

[tekmobile]

Fail recode Bourne Ultimatum vc1...
vc1 is not compatible whit bd rebuilder???

Yes VC-1 is compatable with BD-RB

Was this on the main movie or extra's and have you had any success with other codecs

[DIVX2009]

main movie and full disc

[tekmobile]

main movie and full disc

Have you have previous success before with other codecs or was this your first encode

[DIVX2009]

many blu ray but avc or h264 ...not vc1

[DaMacFunkin]

Madagascar Escape 2 Africa doesn't work, all the extras work fine but any attempt to start film or select scene results in disk hanging... am i right in saying that dreamworks are essentially Universal? and if so it seems a couple of versions down the line, and various upgrades to tsmuxer this problem with Universal titles still exists, it is the same problem all the time. Has anybody heard anything anywhere as to what the problem could be???
Thanks.

[tekmobile]

many blu ray but avc or h264 ...not vc1

What do you have VC-1 set to under FFDshow's settings

[Furiousflea]

Madagascar Escape 2 Africa doesn't work, all the extras work fine but any attempt to start film or select scene results in disk hanging... am i right in saying that dreamworks are essentially Universal? and if so it seems a couple of versions down the line, and various upgrades to tsmuxer this problem with Universal titles still exists, it is the same problem all the time. Has anybody heard anything anywhere as to what the problem could be???
Thanks.

I've had success and no problems with the dreamworks discs I've done on my Sony S550. Can't remember specific discs but remember the annoying sleazy hollywoodesque cloudy dreamworks logo with some dude fishing sitting on a letter that makes me wanna spew (with annoying music) and wish that america...no sorry I don't mean that...lets just say steven spielberg...didn't exist as far as film is concerned. :)

[jdobbs]

1. Just getting back online after some intense travel etc. Can someone who has kept up summarize the top 5 or so bugs that need to be fixed? This thread is becoming really tough to follow and I'd kinda' like to see what I can do this weekend.

2. Is the newer version of TSMUXER (1.9.8?) working with BD Rebuilder? Any new bugs introduced that are something I need to worry about or adjust for?

Thanks.

[Furiousflea]

1. Just getting back online after some intense travel etc. Can someone who has kept up summarize the top 5 or so bugs that need to be fixed? This thread is becoming really tough to follow and I'd kinda' like to see what I can do this weekend.

2. Is the newer version of TSMUXER (1.9.8?) working with BD Rebuilder? Any new bugs introduced that are something I need to worry about or adjust for?

Thanks.



1. Latest tsmuxer is 1.9.9 and it isn't a beta. I would release BDRB with that. It has corrected all audio bugs (including the bug that introduced not passing through DTSHD (not MA) correctly at around version 1.8.35. I'm sure you're aware it has different modes (bluray for burning to BD-R, and AVCHD for burning to DVD media). I believe the old versions of tsmuxer were always using AVCHD mode with parts of bluray mode...ala. Go check the thread in HD DVD\Bluray authoring forum...




2. Seems to be a bug where enabled streams are getting swapped for due to BDRB expecting all streams to be in numerical order and so a mismatch is made between the mpls and the clipi files....something like that (have a 1-2 pages back) reported by tekmobile\turbojet. They seem to think it would be easy to correct.


(2. + 3. Kinda related)

3. Encoding of secondary video track, not sure if you want to add encoding of this in yet, but you might want to add some workaround by just adding it without encoding. Since it is causing problems with streams getting incorrectly mapped. For example, the commentry tracks encoded with DTS Express have the audio embedded in this track...Might be easier just to demux, the track then remux it...Not sure if tsmuxer can handle these tracks correctly though. I know eac3to CAN.

I can select all the audio tracks and they all play but apart from the 1st one all the rest are incorrectly mapped

Its fixable using BDedit by changing the PIDs in the MPLS to match the correct streams in the CLPI file

This seems to happen when the PIDs in the MPLS are not in the same sequence with the ones in the CLPI because BD-RB always writes them in sequence (PiP tracks are usually at the end but after TsMuxer has remuxed the streams it places them to the top throwing out the correct sequence)




4. LPCM still isn't being handled correctly. It seems that tsmuxer outputs the LPCM in 4GB chunks of audio, using this audio as a source to mux back seems to be problematic for tsmuxer. Someone has created a utility that adds the nessacary header information for the LPCM to be treated in the as a wav file...Someone in the HD DVD\Bluray athoring forum...can't remember who but it was in their sig, and I linked to the thread a couple of pages back (maybe 3-4 though).

Edit - here's the program that helps with this....
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138417&highlight=lpcm
Pcm2Tsmu .....(I think at least)



5. Rebuilding - Without re-encoding, so we can just remove some foreign audio streams and rebuild without re-encoding for discs that are slightly over a BD25. Apparently, this is again quite easy, look 1 page back. Would be a very useful addition.




6. Correct handling of seemless branching (directors cut\extended edition discs). King Kong\Hancock both have this problem where if you press the play button on the main menu the movie won't start or acts very weird - not useable backup.




7. Remove "min m2ts to encode" base that you have set (make it 0). It's causing problems, for example the default value for a BD25 is 100mb I believe, this will have potential problems for...

* movies made up of loads of m2ts (some parts of main movie might get encoded with a different codec due to being below min m2ts threshold = not play)

* some mpls have multiple m2ts in, for example if you view bonus material you might click to "play all" bonus material which would be it's own m2ts. with the way you have set it, it might mean some stuff would\wouldn't be encoded = m2ts in an mpls would be encoded with a different codec if original isn't MPEG4.

*** The above 2 stars wouldn't be an issue if you respected each videos mpls and encoded based on that...

So you could have a sort of "tree view" in BDRB, would be much more intuitive also...I don't know how difficult\easy that would be to implement but it would be the ideal solution and save lots of problems.

If you don't want to do that then removing the m2ts minimum encode threshold is essential.

tsmuxer has fixed the bug where it wouldn't properly extract very small video segments (<1mb) so it shouldn't be an issue to remove the threshold




8. Not a bug as such, but adding 720p resize for extras only would be a good idea (the program that can resize subtitles can now do it reliably to 720p...) BDSupEdit

9. Maintaining of interlaced source. It looks like interlaced material is all turned to progressive. This causes 59.94i (shows as 29.97i in BDRB) to have it's frame rate halved. I have no idea on the practicalities of interlaced encoding so feel free to ignore 8. and 9. as they are requests :)

10...Finally, I've noticed some strangeness with setting of custom output size. It doesn't always seem to get updated when you set and then save it in the options menu. You might want to remove this from the ini as the values aren't always in synch...maybe I'm just stupid.

11...Ohhhh one more...I've noticed that if I get say half way through and encode and have in the options to "keep all subtitles" then when I go back to encode and untick some subtitles - the encode WILL resume. But when it comes to rebuilding there will be major problems = wonky backup. In that scenario I'd blame myself, but there are times when it's the other way round so I may have english subs to be kept, but one or two foreign subs that are MANUALLY added. If BDRB stops for any reason, exits...etc. When you open it again it will default to only have the subs selected that are set to be enabled in the options screen.

Can cause major headache again, especially if you can't remember exactly which ones you have enabled\haven't.

I noticed this with AUDIO streams also...I was doing the film "Any Given Sunday" this has what looks to me as the 1st sign of crappy extra protections like with DVD where junk audio\video is added to the discs to puff it out. In this case only audio though (The main movie has about Dolby Digital 640 audio streams) that doesn't need to be there. So basically, it would be good if BDRB saved what you have selected once you press the encode button...

When reloading...Reload from what was actually set when encoding for each m2ts (or mpls if you decide to change the way encoding is done);), NOT what was set in the options.

That's all I can think of....(sorry I say "all"...lol...I don't envy you!!!) ;)


Thanks, Rob

[turbojet]

I see a few reports of tsmuxer 1.9.9 outputting unplayable BD's in this thread, I think it will take some thorough testing of 1.9.9 --avchd before using it as the tsmuxer.exe in the pack. While this testing is going on it would be nice to use a 1.8 version that muxes TrueHD properly like 1.8.30 - 1.8.34 other than that little fix it's --bluray output is identical to the current tsmuxer.exe used in BD-RB.

To add to the bug reports the 720p subs are still way too big and fall off the screen, BDSup2Sub integration would solve this. Check subtitle section of this forum for more info, it has command line support so integration should be fairly simple but it needs java runtime installed.

Also there's an issue with removed streams not getting removed from the mpls files which I mentioned here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274545#post1274545).

[DaMacFunkin]

Me and some others are still having probs with full back ups of Universal titles..
Me and a some others can't get full back ups of Twilight region B.
Sometimes the output is too big to fit on a BD-RE, but not a BD-R???

[Furiousflea]

Me and some others are still having probs with full back ups of Universal titles..
Me and a some others can't get full back ups of Twilight region B.
Sometimes the output is too big to fit on a BD-RE, but not a BD-R???

If you format a BD-RE in ImgBurn using the maximum available space. It will hold the same amount of data as a BD-R. Look at my guide for details, it's listed in it's own heading.

You only need to format it once, from then on you can just write over with more data and for all intents and purposes it will hold same data as a BD-R

[Mediogre]

Problem with aspect ratio on 480i 16/9 video:

I think this happens on all 480i 16/9 video that gets processed by BD-RB. At least on all that I've processed. I'll use the 00022.m2ts video in I Robot as the example. After shrinking with BD-RB to a BD25 I play the movie and this file is played with a 4/3 aspect ratio which is wrong. I use MPC to play the 00022.m2ts file directly and it plays with the correct aspect ratio. MediaInfo correctly reports the aspect ratio of it:

MediaInfo:
General
ID : 1
Complete name : F:\####\I.ROBOT\BDMV\STREAM\00022.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 1.37 GiB
Duration : 34mn 24s
Overall bit rate : 5 684 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 34mn 22s
Bit rate : 5 226 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 5 155 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.505
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1130 8475977


However, BDInfo does not:

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 29.970 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps


Upon further inspection I find that the associated CLPI file says its 4/3. I then used the CLIPINF Editor program to edit it back to 16/9 and now this video plays fine within the movie. Note that the original CLPI file (the one not processed by BD-RB) has the correct aspect ratio. So it looks like the CLPI file is being generated incorrectly for 480i 16/9 video. Let me know if you need any more info and thanks for a great program.

[tekmobile]

Problem with aspect ratio on 480i 16/9 video:

I think this happens on all 480i 16/9 video that gets processed by BD-RB. At least on all that I've processed. I'll use the 00022.m2ts video in I Robot as the example. After shrinking with BD-RB to a BD25 I play the movie and this file is played with a 4/3 aspect ratio which is wrong. I use MPC to play the 00022.m2ts file directly and it plays with the correct aspect ratio. MediaInfo correctly reports the aspect ratio of it:

MediaInfo:
General
ID : 1
Complete name : F:\####\I.ROBOT\BDMV\STREAM\00022.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 1.37 GiB
Duration : 34mn 24s
Overall bit rate : 5 684 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 34mn 22s
Bit rate : 5 226 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 5 155 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.505
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1130 8475977


However, BDInfo does not:

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 29.970 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps


Upon further inspection I find that the associated CLPI file says its 4/3. I then used the CLIPINF Editor program to edit it back to 16/9 and now this video plays fine within the movie. Note that the original CLPI file (the one not processed by BD-RB) has the correct aspect ratio. So it looks like the CLPI file is being generated incorrectly for 480i 16/9 video. Let me know if you need any more info and thanks for a great program.

Ive had the same issue and always fixed with clpinfeditor but this is a issue with TsMuxer there is a option that can be wrote in the meta file to state the aspect ratio but I dont know the commands, detecting from the video may have been fixed in the latest release but im still using 1.8.35

EDIT: Just done a very quick movie only rebuild with the latest version of TsMuxer 1.9.9 on some 480i 16:9 material and unlike earlier version the aspect ratio was correct don't know how it performs with a full BD-RB task though

[jdobbs]

2. Seems to be a bug where enabled streams are getting swapped for due to BDRB expecting all streams to be in numerical order and so a mismatch is made between the mpls and the clipi files....something like that (have a 1-2 pages back) reported by tekmobile\turbojet. They seem to think it would be easy to correct.Can you elaborate? When the streams are remuxed through TSMUXER they should be in numerical order... I'm a little confused.

[tekmobile]

Can you elaborate? When the streams are remuxed through TSMUXER they should be in numerical order... I'm a little confused.

See this post http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274615#post1274615

The streams in the clpi and mpls seem to be out of order on some titles but as BD Rebuilder puts them in the correct order this is resulting in incorrect mapping

[Mediogre]

Ive had the same issue and always fixed with clpinfeditor but this is a issue with TsMuxer there is a option that can be wrote in the meta file to state the aspect ratio but I dont know the commands, detecting from the video may have been fixed in the latest release but im still using 1.8.35

EDIT: Just done a very quick movie only rebuild with the latest version of TsMuxer 1.9.9 on some 480i 16:9 material and unlike earlier version the aspect ratio was correct don't know how it performs with a full BD-RB task though

Thanks. I too did a couple quick tests. 1.8.4 does have this bug and 1.9.9 does not (like you said). So I guess I'll wait for jdobbs to update TsMuxer then. Not a big deal since I wrote a script which looks for all 480i 16/9 source video and then just fix them with clpinf editor.

[tekmobile]

Thanks. I too did a couple quick tests. 1.8.4 does have this bug and 1.9.9 does not (like you said). So I guess I'll wait for jdobbs to update TsMuxer then. Not a big deal since I wrote a script which looks for all 480i 16/9 source video and then just fix them with clpinf editor.

If the latest version of TsMuxer works ok with your player then can update it yourself by overwriting the tsmuxer in the BD Rebuilders tool directory with the latest.

A quick test shows the latest version of TsMuxer is compatable with BD Rebuilders commands

[jdobbs]

See this post http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274615#post1274615

The streams in the clpi and mpls seem to be out of order on some titles but as BD Rebuilder puts them in the correct order this is resulting in incorrect mappingOk. I see. The original had the stream ID's correct but they were out of order in the MPLS. Interesting -- I didn't expect that. I'll fix it.

[jangai]

I am running into the following Gordian knot :
-Want to make a BD25 backup of a 37,7 GB BD (Gattaca) with BD_RB (0.20.05) keeping only EN and FR audio and subtitles tracks.
-Feature of this movie is that ALL audio tracks are TrueHD ones

If I have have well understood, I CAN save TrueHD audio format with BD25 target by asking that into setting menu...

Alas, BD_RB rip make a 102% BD25 size that I can't burn on a 25GB disk...

I try to rip with manually reduced target size : Result is OK for BD 25 burning, but... TrueHD tracks don't works... ( Only allowed for true BD25 size ?)

It seems that in case of TrueHD tracks, size calculation is too large...

Could we have "TrueHD conservation" allowed for manually BD25 target adjusted ???

Thanks by advance

[MILLZY]

I have a sony BDP S300 i have done quite a few back-ups to bdr 25s the quality is fantastic my only problem is that the seems to be a little lag when i choose source direct on the player 1080/24p(my television can source 24p)But when i select 1080p instead everything is fine,No big deal but has anyone else seen this,Not sure if it is a bug or the player and tv can`t handle it well at source direct.:confused:

[mhammer]

I have a sony BDP S300 i have done quite a few back-ups to bdr 25s the quality is fantastic my only problem is that the seems to be a little lag when i choose source direct on the player 1080/24p(my television can source 24p)But when i select 1080p instead everything is fine,No big deal but has anyone else seen this,Not sure if it is a bug or the player and tv can`t handle it well at source direct.:confused:

It seems there is a problem with 24p on some players, my panasonic bd35 has only sound and no picture with 24p, with 60hz its plays fine.

[MILLZY]

It seems there is a problem with 24p on some players, my panasonic bd35 has only sound and no picture with 24p, with 60hz its plays fine.

No probs though, looks great at 1080p and 60hz i dont think you would notice the difference anyway! Or would you?

[mhammer]

No probs though, looks great at 1080p and 60hz i dont think you would notice the difference anyway! Or would you?

Looks great at 1080p 60hz, but without judder in 24p it looks truely better.

[Furiousflea]

I have a sony BDP S300 i have done quite a few back-ups to bdr 25s the quality is fantastic my only problem is that the seems to be a little lag when i choose source direct on the player 1080/24p(my television can source 24p)But when i select 1080p instead everything is fine,No big deal but has anyone else seen this,Not sure if it is a bug or the player and tv can`t handle it well at source direct.:confused:

It's not the player.

I have the S550 which is pretty much the same player but with DTSMA decoding. I output at 24p for loads of discs and never had that happen.

[MILLZY]

It's not the player.

I have the S550 which is pretty much the same player but with DTSMA decoding. I output at 24p for loads of discs and never had that happen.

Do you mean originals or backups? With my originals i can source at 24p with no probs.

[Furiousflea]

Do you mean originals or backups? With my originals i can source at 24p with no probs.

Both, sorry forgot to say I was referring to backups (DVD\BD-R all fine). The Sony BDP-XXX are the most compatible models, it's very unlikely that it is the cause of your out of synch issue.

[MILLZY]

Both, sorry forgot to say I was referring to backups (DVD\BD-R all fine). The Sony BDP-XXX are the most compatible models, it's very unlikely that it is the cause of your out of synch issue.

The back ups are not out of synch just a slight judder when at 24p source direct,Nothing major but i can notice it especially viewing on a 50inch plasma........Any ideas why this is occurring?Fantastic program by the way.:thanks:

[Furiousflea]

The back ups are not out of synch just a slight judder when at 24p source direct,Nothing major but i can notice it especially viewing on a 50inch plasma........Any ideas why this is occurring?Fantastic program by the way.:thanks:

Again, no problem there either, sounds pretty weird.

Sure you haven't got "motionflow" or an eqivalent for your LCD\Plasma set to high when checked out your original\backup. Some screens these days smooth movement to make your source look more like video with that setting on. It can cause problems if you have compressed your source by a large amount. I haven't experienced any problem like that apart from when watching extrememly highly compressed extras, as in juddering that shouldn't be there and needs the motionflow to be turned off

[Tongariro]

i ment no video only sound on 24P.
great on 60P mode.

I have the same problem with panasonic bd35 great on 60P no video.
its like this since i got the pana.
I had notice there are few like me on this forum.
Any idea???


Again, no problem there either, sounds pretty weird.

Sure you haven't got "motionflow" or an eqivalent for your LCD\Plasma set to high when checked out your original\backup. Some screens these days smooth movement to make your source look more like video with that setting on. It can cause problems if you have compressed your source by a large amount. I haven't experienced any problem like that apart from when watching extrememly highly compressed extras, as in juddering that shouldn't be there and needs the motionflow to be turned off

[Lif3styl3]

after trying newer tsmuxer version to get hd sound data i've given up.

But there is another problem. Now i've got the newest version with all tools jdobbs provides.

In my case every backed up blu ray has got dolby digital. All sound streams are converted into this format while using the following config

[Status]
LABEL=MAX_PAYNE
VERSION=v0.20.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=25980413952
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=25980413952
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.94644786050867
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=gmh;goh;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00002]
AUDIO=000100
PGS=0000001110000010
M2TS_TARGET=24589107200
RATE=25000
NSIZE=20099702784
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=gmh;goh;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DOCUMENTS\DVDFAB\ISO\MAX_PAYNE\
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\MAX_PAYNE\

Is there any known workarround ?

[stef73]

i ment no video only sound on 24P.
great on 60P mode.

I have the same problem with panasonic bd35 great on 60P no video.
its like this since i got the pana.
I had notice there are few like me on this forum.
Any idea???

my bd35 works with everything at the minute since i started using the latest software 1080p/24p so it must be settings guys

[Furiousflea]

i ment no video only sound on 24P.
great on 60P mode.

I have the same problem with panasonic bd35 great on 60P no video.
its like this since i got the pana.
I had notice there are few like me on this forum.
Any idea???

Known issue, no solution to my knowledge that is certain to work. I don't have one but the person posting above this post is the first I've heard of them getting 24p to work with a Panasonic BD-XX model.

[Cela]

BD Rebuilder is a charm!
I'm still a moron but already becoming a BD Rebuilder fan!

@jdobbs, thanks for your great program!
@Furiousflea, thanks for your moron-proof guide!
@deank, thanks for goBD which made BDRB's output BD9-disks PS3 ready!

Last weekend I had my first encounter with BDRB.
Surprise, moron me was successful with backing up my first 4 BDs to BD9-disks!

Let me report some observations and ask a few questions:
1. I use BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
and these components (because I have them installed for TSPE):
AviSynth 2.58, build: May 17 2007,
ffdshow tryouts revision 2527 Dec 17 2008
Codecs: H.64/AVC deactivated
Codecs: MPEG2 libmpeg2 (libmpeg2_ff.dll 0.5.0, build Dec 17 2008)
...
Haali Media Splitter 1.9.42.1
CoreCodec / CoreAVC H.264 Video Decoder PE 1.9.5 with CUDA OFF
Are these components also ok for BDRB?

2. My first backup was a Movie-Only Backup and it was a full success:
2.0 There was one m2ts to the main movie.
2.1 I did the settings strictly according to Furiousflea's Guide, clicked at "Backup", waited 16 hours, did "Write files/folders to disc" with Imageburn.
2.2 The BD9 disk (Fujifilm DVD+ R DL) is playing properly with may (European version) PS3 and with my software players Nero9 ShowTime and Cyberlink PowerDVD Ultra 7
2.3 The BD9 folder on hard disk is accepted and played well with Nero9 ShowTime.
2.4 The BD9 folder on hard disk is accepted by PowerDVD Ultra 7 for "Open movie file on hard disk drive" but NOT played well: starts at Time:17:14:00 / 00:00:00 Title: 0/0 Chapter: 0/0 Video: MPEG-2, black screen!

3. "Movie-Only Backup" for movies with more than one m2ts?
I was not able to "Movie-Only Backup" my other BDs because the main movies used two m2t of almost same size (~19 GB each).
3.1 Option "Movie-Only Backup" offered me either the first or the second part (.m2ts) of the main movie, only.
3.2 Because I am interested in the whole movie with the original chapters and subtitles, I am forced to do a "Full Backup" for these cases.
3.2 Are Movie-Only Backups only for movies with _one_ m2ts?
What about movies with more than one m2ts? And retain original chapters and subs?

4. "Full Backup" calculated fine following Furiousflea's Guide.
4.1 The BD9 folder on hard disk is NOT accepted and NOT played well with my software players Nero9 ShowTime and PowerDVD Ultra 7.
4.2 The BD9 disk (Fujifilm DVD+ R DL) only plays as Data Disk on my PS3 although I used the "Stricter AVCHD compliance...!" General Encoding Option also for "Full Backup". There is no compliance with my PS3.

5. goBD by deank makes my "Full Backups" on BD9-disks work:
5.1 After applying goBD the BD9 folders on hard disk play well with Nero9 ShowTime; but are still not accepted by PowerDVD Ultra 7.
5.2 After applying goBD to the BD9 folders the resulting BD9 disks (Fujifilm DVD+ R DL) play well on my PS3 and in both software players Nero9 ShowTime and PowerDVD Ultra 7.
5.3 Thus, I will use goBD after BDRB in my standard workfolw.

6. How to make the BD9 folders ready for playing as AVCHD from FAT32 USB disk at the PS3 ???
This would be a really useful feature. This is what I miss most now! I prefer not to burn to any BD or DVD disk, but to simply copy the BD9 folder to an external 1GB+ USB disk and play form there.
Hope that in some near future also my Poppy (PCH A-110) will play the BD9 folder as BD with chapter selection and subs selection enabled and not only the single m2ts in sort of Data Disk mode.
6.1 In "Movie-Only Backup" to BD9 the movie is in one single m2ts which is > 4GB and therefore is not FAT32 compliant.
6.2 In "Full Backup" to BD9 there is a chance that all m2ts could be < 4GB each, but is this sufficient?
6.3 I tried AVCHD_Me and MultiAVCHD, but being a moron, was not too successful. MultiAVCHD always wanted to process the contents of the BD9 folder _twice_ and did not split the too big m2ts into two parts. And would it have adjusted the chapter and subs references form the original one-m2ts to the FAT32 compliant splitting into _two_-m2ts ???

@deank
Could you please upgrade your "goBD" to "goAVCHD" to make the BD9 folders ready for FAT32 USB disks for PS3 (sort of an AVCHD_ME for BDRB's BD9 output folders) including adjusted chapter and subs references ?

7. Some Audio feature requests:
7.1 LPCM, 2 ch is converted by default to ac3, 2ch, 192 kbps.
Could you please enable to select some higher bitrate: ac3, 2ch, 256 kbps and/or 448 kbps?
7.2 Or could you please enable a more general conversion to "conventional" audio?
7.2.1 From HD Audio, DTS, LPCM, AC3 to AC3 or MP2, 2ch or 6ch, 192, 256, 320, 448, 640 kbps.
7.2.2 In most cases my personal favourite audio selection for a backups would be "MP2, 2ch, 256" or "MP2, 2ch, 320" (because I am used to these audio attributes from DVB Video and DVB Radio channels on Astra 19.2 East).

Many thanks!

Cela

[deank]

5.2 After applying goBD to the BD9 folders the resulting BD9 disks (Fujifilm DVD+ R DL) play well on my PS3 and in both software players Nero9 ShowTime and PowerDVD Ultra 7.
5.3 Thus, I will use goBD after BDRB in my standard workfolw.


I'd suggest you to follow this thread, because jdobbs will probably change BD-RB and you won't need goBD.


6. How to make the BD9 folders ready for playing as AVCHD from FAT32 USB disk at the PS3 ???
6.3 I tried AVCHD_Me and MultiAVCHD, but... multiAVCHD always wanted to process the contents of the BD9 folder _twice_ and did not split the too big m2ts

You need to import your MPLS file into multiAVCHD. When you drag your folder it will ask you (if you have some of the latest builds) and will process your folder, keeping chapters/subtitles/etc, creating FAT32 names for USB and will split m2ts files to 4gb chunks. If you need help - post in multiAVCHD thread.

@deank
Could you please upgrade your "goBD" to "goAVCHD" to make the BD9 folders ready for FAT32 USB disks for PS3

In fact goBD does exactly what you ask for - changes the index to look like as AVCHD and it will work from USB (if you have filenames renamed to 8.3 format).
Dean

[stef73]

just done the day the earth stood still full disk to bd25 and it works spot on on both ps3 (i know wooohooooo!) been a coulpe of months since ps3 played a backup and on my BD35 1080p/24 it looks awesome guys :)

[jangai]

Nobody here kind enough to give me the beginning of an answer ? I can't believe it...

I am running into the following Gordian knot :
-Want to make a BD25 backup of a 37,7 GB BD (Gattaca) with BD_RB (0.20.05) keeping only EN and FR audio and subtitles tracks.
-Feature of this movie is that ALL audio tracks are TrueHD ones

If I have have well understood, I CAN save TrueHD audio format with BD25 target by asking that into setting menu...

Alas, BD_RB rip make a 102% BD25 size that I can't burn on a 25GB disk...

I try to rip with manually reduced target size : Result is OK for BD 25 burning, but... TrueHD tracks don't play... ( Is "Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding" option strictly allowed for "Target size BD25" option ?)

It seems that in case of TrueHD tracks, size calculation is too large...

Could we have "TrueHD conservation" allowed for manually BD25 target adjusted ???

Thanks by advance

[deank]

May be the developer jdobbs is the only one who can answer and help you with that - that's why no one answered... And he is away for few days/weeks - just be patient - it will get solved.

[jangai]

May be the developer jdobbs is the only one who can answer and help you with that - that's why no one answered... And he is away for few days/weeks - just be patient - it will get solved.
OK, thank you to pump up my moral and apologizes for my lack of patience...
:cool:

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi!

I just tried another universal title, Bourne Supremicy (EUR).

Just like all other Universal title I tried (Bourne Identity, Hellboy 2), The main movie does not start in full backup mode.

After pressing "play movie" the screen stays black.

Bye

[Cela]

...In fact goBD does exactly what you ask for - changes the index to look like as AVCHD and it will work from USB (if you have filenames renamed to 8.3 format).
DeanYes, for MOVIE ONLY-BD9s. :)
But, how about the full FULL_BD9 with the original menus, extras, etc. ? :rolleyes:

[gillie]

First off just wanted to say BD Rebuilder is great.

I've been using without problem for weeks but have now got access to a new workstation (Dual Intel Xeon 3GHz, Quad-core processors and 16GB RAM). Currently running Vista x64 and have been using 32-bit versions of software and getting rebuild times of about 4-hours.

I was wondering whether I can use 64-bit versions of ffdshow and x264 to increase performance/reduce rebuild times? I have downloaded the 64-bit versions of the software but I'm getting rebuild errors. Does anyone have this working? Does it reduce rebuild times?

p.s. Apologies if this question has already been asked/answered but I cannot find any reference in this thread.

[setarip_old]

@Chefkoch_ico

Hi!After pressing "play movie" the screen stays black.Are you referring to playback on your computer or on a standalone player?

If this is happening on your computer, be advised that I have experienced occasions when PowerDVD has taken an inordinately long amount of time (more than two or three minutes) after initially loading to start playing...

[drmih]

Hi!

I just tried another universal title, Bourne Supremicy (EUR).

Just like all other Universal title I tried (Bourne Identity, Hellboy 2), The main movie does not start in full backup mode.

After pressing "play movie" the screen stays black.

Bye

I can confirm that I have done all of those titles in full backup mode (the Bournes to bd-9 and Hellboy 2 to bd-25 because of an issue with one of the vc1 extras) and the video and menus all work fine on my standalone.

[drmih]

First off just wanted to say BD Rebuilder is great.

I've been using without problem for weeks but have now got access to a new workstation (Dual Intel Xeon 3GHz, Quad-core processors and 16GB RAM). Currently running Vista x64 and have been using 32-bit versions of software and getting rebuild times of about 4-hours.

I was wondering whether I can use 64-bit versions of ffdshow and x264 to increase performance/reduce rebuild times? I have downloaded the 64-bit versions of the software but I'm getting rebuild errors. Does anyone have this working? Does it reduce rebuild times?

p.s. Apologies if this question has already been asked/answered but I cannot find any reference in this thread.

I asked the question some weeks ago and the response was:
"Currently you'd need 64 bit avisynth (doesn't seem to work) and 64 bit directshow filters like ffdshow 64 or you'd need to be able to pipe with avs2yuv which BD-RB currently doesn't support."

[Furiousflea]

First off just wanted to say BD Rebuilder is great.

I've been using without problem for weeks but have now got access to a new workstation (Dual Intel Xeon 3GHz, Quad-core processors and 16GB RAM). Currently running Vista x64 and have been using 32-bit versions of software and getting rebuild times of about 4-hours.

I was wondering whether I can use 64-bit versions of ffdshow and x264 to increase performance/reduce rebuild times? I have downloaded the 64-bit versions of the software but I'm getting rebuild errors. Does anyone have this working? Does it reduce rebuild times?

p.s. Apologies if this question has already been asked/answered but I cannot find any reference in this thread.

You could, if\when jdobbs sets BDRB to "recognise" 64bit x264.

[MILLZY]

Again, no problem there either, sounds pretty weird.

Sure you haven't got "motionflow" or an eqivalent for your LCD\Plasma set to high when checked out your original\backup. Some screens these days smooth movement to make your source look more like video with that setting on. It can cause problems if you have compressed your source by a large amount. I haven't experienced any problem like that apart from when watching extrememly highly compressed extras, as in juddering that shouldn't be there and needs the motionflow to be turned off

Sorry for the late reply,I have checked and there is no motionflow or anything of that sort on the plasma.Still trying to get to the bottom of this slight judder at 24p.I have tried using coreavc on its own ,but it is still there ever so slightly.I have also used just ffdshow but still the same result.I was thinking it could be a compatibillity issue.Furiousflea could you please tell me what settings you have with ffdshow and should i keep coreavc on my system.:thanks:

[pbeumer2001]

Hello,

I did a BD25 full movie backup of The Bourne Supremacy with HD sound. Worked like a charm on my PS3. Now i`m deleting de extra`s by replacing the files with a black screen movie file of 30KB so I have more GB left for the main movie. Running it trough rebuilder right now.

For those who after rebuilder is finished have oversize. Just replace one of the extra`s with a smaller file.

[gillie]

Just seen my first problem with BD Rebuilder.
Trying a Movie Only rebuild on I, Robot and sound has shifted out of sync by about 1-2 seconds.
Tried rebuild multiple times on multiple systems and same result.
Also saw this with Fantastic 4 - Rise of the Silver Surfer but thought that I'd messed up with AnyDVD rip to disk on that one, but maybe it was same problem.

[Lif3styl3]

How do you get the hd sound copys working ??

I've tried at lot of differnet tsmuxxer version. I'am only getting stuttering sound when using leave hd sound on disc.

Can you post your tool versions and the settings of your bd rebuilder ??

[Furiousflea]

How do you get the hd sound copys working ??

I've tried at lot of differnet tsmuxxer version. I'am only getting stuttering sound when using leave hd sound on disc.

Can you post your tool versions and the settings of your bd rebuilder ??

Use latest version (1.9.9), works fine for DTSHD\MA\TrueHD.

No version works properly for LPCM. If your audio is LPCM your out of luck for now.

[MILLZY]

Sorry for the late reply,I have checked and there is no motionflow or anything of that sort on the plasma.Still trying to get to the bottom of this slight judder at 24p.I have tried using coreavc on its own ,but it is still there ever so slightly.I have also used just ffdshow but still the same result.I was thinking it could be a compatibillity issue.Furiousflea could you please tell me what settings you have with ffdshow and should i keep coreavc on my system.:thanks:


Sorry for the late reply

[pbeumer2001]

Use latest version (1.9.9), works fine for DTSHD\MA\TrueHD.

No version works properly for LPCM. If your audio is LPCM your out of luck for now.

That`s correct I also used the latest version and it worked great. Didn`t know that LPCM won`t work at the moment. Too bad. Just a matter of time.

[Cela]

BD Rebuilder is a charm!
I'm still a moron but already becoming a BD Rebuilder fan!

@jdobbs, thanks for your great program!
@Furiousflea, thanks for your moron-proof guide!
@deank, thanks for goBD which made BDRB's output BD9-disks PS3 ready!
...
Many thanks!
...
Cela

@jdobbs for BDRB
1. Please add a feature to produce FAT32 compliant output!
(see 6. of my post #2562 at page 129 LINK (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1276399#post1276399) ). (Similar to 4. below)
2. Please, integrate deank's goBD into BDRB to boost PS3 compatibility
3. Please add some Audio features
Let the user define the default for audio conversion. Apply this default also to LPCM input.
(see 7. in LINK (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=129))

@deank for multiAVCH
4. PLEASE, upgrade multiAVCHD to process the FULL BD9 Backup from BDRB with the original menus, extras, etc as it already now processes one selected mpls!
As a result of this upgrade any BD9 Backup from BDRB would become FAT32 compliant. (Similar to 1. above)
5. Please add an option to redo a previous run of multiAVCHD with user edited chapter (and subtitle) input. This would enable the user to modify chapters and subtitles inherited from the BDRB backup.

@idbirch2 for AVCHDManager:
6. Your AVCHDManager is so cool!
Now, where it is so easy to do it on the computer, from a user's point of view, a boost of user friendlyness would be to let a PS3_native_AVCHDManager application quickly select the AVCHD default out of the bunch of candidates on the 1TB USB disk directly at the PS3 and immediately play the selected show!

PS3 programmers! Here is an interesting task for you! ;)

Cheers

Cela

[DaMacFunkin]

Hi!

I just tried another universal title, Bourne Supremicy (EUR).

Just like all other Universal title I tried (Bourne Identity, Hellboy 2), The main movie does not start in full backup mode.

After pressing "play movie" the screen stays black.

Bye

I too am having lots of problems with Universal Titles, and some Dreamworks titles which are essentially Universal, get the same probs as you either on Power DVD 8.0 or Panasonic BD-30, i have left them trying to load on power dvd for up to an hour....

[jewish]

i too am having lots of problems with universal titles, and some dreamworks titles which are essentially universal, get the same probs as you either on power dvd 8.0 or panasonic bd-30, i have left them trying to load on power dvd for up to an hour....

i`m having the same problem with bourne ult and chronicles of riddick.

Disc loads but when trying to play film nothing happens.

[Chefkoch_ico]

I too am having lots of problems with Universal Titles, and some Dreamworks titles which are essentially Universal, get the same probs as you either on Power DVD 8.0 or Panasonic BD-30, i have left them trying to load on power dvd for up to an hour....

I am using PowerDVD 7.3 on my "work" PC and PowerDVD 8 on my HTPC. Both of them show the described problems. I waited 30 minutes.

not @DaMacFunkin:
I dont need a SAP, my HTPC can do much more than them. And:
- the Original AnyDVD precessed BluRay works fine
- the BD-RB one does not

So its a Bug. And even if it works on some SAP, its likely that on others it does not work.

Bye

[pbeumer2001]

I just finnished The Bourne Supremacy EUR. As I said before I replaced all the extra`s with a 30kb black screen file (saved me over 4 GB of space) and ran it through rebuilder. Disc plays fine. Boots up the menu starts the main movie with HD SOUND!!! When I want to see the extra`s the screen goos black for 5 sec. en goes back to the menu.

Tested it on PS3 EUR.

Great Prog. Now starting with Independence Day with extra`s replaced!!!

[setarip_old]

@pbeumer

Of what use is it to retain the menu if you've eliminated the extras?

Also, what does your post have to with bugs in BD-RB?

[Lif3styl3]

whats about the settings in bdrb,...

Are my settings coreect ?

I've choosed don't reencode dts and dolby digital and leave hd sound on dis using bd25 rip.

[vcarter]

hi here is my error

- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00000.meta
[12:22:58] - Failed to build structure, aborted

i just had to mux h264 and ac3 from Workfiles.in workfiles i can find a file called TMP in wich there's the output BD without the sound

@+

[archaeo]

No version works properly for LPCM. If your audio is LPCM your out of luck for now.

That explains the issue I've had with 'The Man Who Fell To Earth'. The main track is only available in LPCM. :(

I wasn't sure if it was something I was doing...

Is there any way to retrieve and convert LPCM audio on this disc so that I can remux back into the final stream?

[Furiousflea]

That explains the issue I've had with 'The Man Who Fell To Earth'. The main track is only available in LPCM. :(

I wasn't sure if it was something I was doing...

Is there any way to retrieve and convert LPCM audio on this disc so that I can remux back into the final stream?

It's fine if you don't mind the audio being converted to 640k AC3. Just when keeping the LPCM it won't rebuild correctly. There is no "1 click way" or a way without some complex hex editing to my knowledge (limited in this area).

The problem is muxing the LPCM. jdobbs could get around the limitation of tsmuxer by doing a bit of reverse thinking maybe by using the original m2ts and stripping the streams according to BDRBs encoding profile and muxing the video\audio back to the original so the LPCM is never actually touched.

Since the problem with tsmuxer is importing the LPCM this could be a possible solution (or a load of balls...but you never know).

:)

Sorry can't offer any actual solution, tekmoible might know and turbojet also prolly does.

[pbeumer2001]

@pbeumer

Of what use is it to retain the menu if you've eliminated the extras?

Also, what does your post have to with bugs in BD-RB?

It`s a personal thing. I like my movies with original menu and just the main movie. But you`re right I won`t post anything more since it`s not related to Bugs.

[archaeo]

It's fine if you don't mind the audio being converted to 640k AC3.

That's better than no audio at all at this point. I'll give that a try and see how it works.

[jdobbs]

That explains the issue I've had with 'The Man Who Fell To Earth'. The main track is only available in LPCM. :(

I wasn't sure if it was something I was doing...

Is there any way to retrieve and convert LPCM audio on this disc so that I can remux back into the final stream?You can convert the LPCM to AC3 using BD-RB -- that works fine.

[edit] Looks like I'm late with that response...

[MILLZY]

I posted what i thought was a bug a few days a go about my backup bdrs juddering when played at source direct 1080/24p,Only to find out that it is my television (samsung series 5 model)i have found out that it will not play at 1080/24p properly even thought it states that it does on the reviews and box and instruction manual.The whole point of buying the television was because of the 24p.just letting people know if they come across the same thing i did with the juddering.I have a battle on now with currys who now are sending out a engineer tues:mad:

[Lif3styl3]

Hi,

now i tried reencoding baader meinhof komplex.
always get an error op proably pgs oversize.

after ripping the video with ts muxxer and then started another turn with bdrb it works,...

Seems to me that bdrb has got a problem with a videotrack with no audio and no subtitle.

thing this is a little homework for jdobbs.
attached a screnshot of the blu ray.


also tried erin brokovic. its a blu ray with dlby true hd sound. on this hs sound i am getting stuttering sound with newest tsmuxxer. all other hd sound formats are working perefectly.

an ideas for getting this blu ray with correct sound ?

[Capsbackup]

I know this thread has become way too hard to follow for bug reports, and things have been quite slow as of lately, but I will report a recent finding anyway. I tried to back up Terminator 3, NTSC, to BD-R. It is 29.1GB, and has an " In-Movie Experience" video track with a directors comment and PIP window as the movie plays. I chose to keep all 6 audio tracks and all subtitle tracks. The movie starts right after the brief FBI warning intro and the Warner Home Video intro, without the main menu, so there is nothing to select to start with. Almost immediately the audio is out of sync, and at the 5 min mark into the movie, it is behind by 90 seconds. It continues to fall behind further and further later into the movie. At the conclusion of this, the main menu starts, and I select to play the In-Movie Experience option, and it plays perfectly the entire movie, with the backround audio and directors comments perfectly in sync with the PIP window. All the extras on the disc also appear to play back fine, no problems with them. Has anyone tried this movie or had a similar experience?

[Category 5]

jdobbs - Love this program. I will buy it at the price you name when it reaches a final build. A couple of ideas.

1 - No option to preserve original encode when the main movie and a single audio track will already fit on a BD-r? How about when the main movie and a 448kbps AAC track are used? My main concern here is time because the PQ is great even when re-encoding.

2 - How about ability to select extras like shrink used to allow? i.e. main movie then one or two particular extras play in sequence without menus.

*3 - I have a slew of HD-DVDs. Any chance we'll see an HD->BD option, even if it's just keeping the main movie since menus, etc. will not work anyway. I'd love to be able to transfer some of my discs over without rebuying them.

4 - Option to keep HD audio even when going to BD-9. This seems like too much for the smaller BD-9 but would be great for concert discs where the video is "somewhat" of a wash in comparison to audio.

*5 - A test option that allows a small 3 minute sample to be produced, just to check quality and that the correct audio has been used. It's is such a bummer to encode for 14 hours and then discover an error.

Thanks again for this fantastic software. Keep up the great work!

[DaMacFunkin]

How do i convert LPCM to ac3 and keep True HD in the same stream / film?
Transporter 3, i want to keep the True HD film track, but commentary tracks are in LPCM...
Any ideas?

[GaPony]

How do i convert LPCM to ac3 and keep True HD in the same stream / film?
Transporter 3, i want to keep the True HD film track, but commentary tracks are in LPCM...
Any ideas?

The AnyDVD-HD rip is only 21.2gb, just burn it to a 25gb disc with ImgBurn. :)

[DaMacFunkin]

Must be 2 Region B versions because my rip is 31.8 GB with the main stream being 29 GB...
Any other suggestions?

[archaeo]

You can convert the LPCM to AC3 using BD-RB -- that works fine.


Just to be sure, do I check 'use 640kbs for AC3 encoding' or just leave all options under <audio encoding options> unchecked?

[Furiousflea]

Just to be sure, do I check 'use 640kbs for AC3 encoding' or just leave all options under <audio encoding options> unchecked?

check it and it will give you 640k AC3, unchecked 448k AC3.

...As long as HD audio is unchecked. HD audio check will overule.

[DaMacFunkin]

check it and it will give you 640k AC3, unchecked 448k AC3.

...As long as HD audio is unchecked. HD audio check will overule.
Thats the problem, i want (need) to re-encode the LPCM to ac3, but i want to keep the main movie TRUE HD Track....

[Lif3styl3]

Ok,
i've now tried erin brokovich again. Same issue.
Using tsmuxxer only everything is fine, exceptionally the filesize which is to high for a bd-25.

The i tried to downsize that movie with one dolby true hd soundstream left.
The result is stuttering sound.

PowerDvD tells me the videostream is called mpeg-4 avc.
Is the problem related to the used videostream ???

If i don't check keep hd audio, i will get a working copy with dolby digital using bdrb.

Any ideas ??
Or do u need more information ?

[Jake802]

Hello Did I miss something? I just used latest version of BD Rebuilder for X-Men. Did a Movie-Only Backup, Target Size BD-25.Kept all English Audio Tracks & English Subtitles,I had the following boxes checked:
Stricter AVCHD Compliance for movie only
Trellis Algorithm
Do Not Convert DTS to AC3
Do not reencode AC3
Use 640Kbs for AC3 encoding
Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding

The disc shows as a DATA Disc in my LG Player shows as AVCHD through PowerDVD on my computer and has no sound?!?!
The movie looks great but I have no sound?!?!

Any ideas would be great! Thanks!

[GaPony]

I don't mess with checking any of the audio boxes. I do check the box for "Stricter AVCHD Compliance for movie only".

My Movie Only copies to BD9 and BD25 came out fine. I'd rather have 448kbs AC3 audio than no audio at all, so I'm not too adventurous with the settings.

I don't think the "Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding" thing is 100% ready for primetime yet.

[jdobbs]

Just posted a new link for the latest update on the first page of this thread. Still several things to fix -- but thought with limited time lately I'd post what I've done so far...

Changes for this version:- Made changes to MPLS processing code to correct for
mismatch errors when MPLS/CLPI PID orders are not
ordered the same.
- Rewrote several sections that perform audio encoding
and integrated new routines for processing.
- Corrected an error in which under certain conditions
some small parts of a multi-part playlist might not
be reencoded -- and result in a video type mismatch.
- Updated X264.EXE to the latest release (r1145)
- Updated TSMUXER.EXE to the latest release (v1.9.9)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[turbojet]

jdobbs: I hate to sound like a broken record but do you have any plans to write the 2-3(?) lines of code to implement bdsup2sub to fix the 720p subs issue I reported back in february?

[jdobbs]

I've never seen anything in my life (and it's a long life) that was solved in 3 lines of code... even if the Messiah were writing it I'd expect no fewer than 10 -- and I'm no Messiah. :)

[turbojet]

if 720p (
bdsup2sub <params>
)
?
Anyhow outside the amount of lines, I mainly mean to say the command line is all set to go and it should be very easy to implement. Do you plan on fixing it by implementing bdsup2sub or another way?

Also I notice that if MODE=1 in ini (movie only) it says 'selected source is not BD format' if I change back to full movie it loads the same content just fine. Vista 64 bit OS.

[Lif3styl3]

hi jdobbs,

did you fixed the bug with the stuttering dolby true hd sound reencoding with bd rebuilder in some cases e.g. erin brokovic??

i have used v0.20.05 and tsmuxxer 1.9.9 which results in the described error.

[Furiousflea]

Just posted a new link for the latest update on the first page of this thread. Still several things to fix -- but thought with limited time lately I'd post what I've done so far...

Changes for this version:- Made changes to MPLS processing code to correct for
mismatch errors when MPLS/CLPI PID orders are not
ordered the same.
- Rewrote several sections that perform audio encoding
and integrated new routines for processing.
- Corrected an error in which under certain conditions
some small parts of a multi-part playlist might not
be reencoded -- and result in a video type mismatch.
- Updated X264.EXE to the latest release (r1145)
- Updated TSMUXER.EXE to the latest release (v1.9.9)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Cheers dobbsy, will give my copy of 300 a shot see if the mapping is correct :)

[MikeyBK]

Thanks JD, for the update, and for your hard work on this marvelous program.

Just an FYI...I've not had any Issues/Bugs whatsoever with the last up-teen versions.... all my encodings are movie-only to BD-9...

I once again would like to call upon all those who are benefiting from BD-Rebuilder & JDobbs' hard work to find it in themselves to donate what they can if they haven't done so already...
Cheers...:thanks:

[datman]

Thanks for the update jdobbs.

should the speed be 4x faster? I was testing 20.06 and it was running at least 4x faster. I knew something was wrong so I rebooted and ran BDRB again, it's still very,very fast.

I know it's to good to be true but I'm going to let it run. At this speed it will be done by 9pm

[Furiousflea]

Thanks for the update jdobbs.

should the speed be 4x faster? I was testing 20.06 and it was running at least 4x faster. I knew something was wrong so I rebooted and ran BDRB again, it's still very,very fast.

I know it's to good to be true but I'm going to let it run. At this speed it will be done by 9pm

no, somethings wrong...or something that was wrong is now right ;)

[steelfatboy]

Version 0.20.06 gives an error "selected source is not BD format" for "movie only." Works OK for full.

On Vista x64.

[Furiousflea]

"min m2ts size =" has stopped working properly...

It looks like at least now BDRB is checking the mpls to see which m2ts are buddies, but I tried setting min m2ts to "5000" for the film 300 and there's still a load of m2ts that shouldn't be there (they are about 10 m2ts, all part of 1 mpls)

edit - having said that, this is the exception and not the rule, it seems to be ok for other discs, only tried about 7-8 so far though.

[datman]

Version 0.20.06 gives an error "selected source is not BD format" for "movie only." Works OK for full.

On Vista x64.

On W7 too, I thought it was connected to my other error

[datman]

no, somethings wrong...or something that was wrong is now right ;)

the encode ended up failing. I figured out was caused the speed increase, because I had to do a full movie backup ( I always do movie only) there were 480p files that were encoded first and they were fast the 1080p files were normal

[rickwj324]

Version 0.20.06 gives an error "selected source is not BD format" for "movie only." Works OK for full.

On Vista x64.

I just downloaded this version a few minutes ago and also got that error. I am also running Vista x64. Tried two blu's and got the same results. Reverted back to the previous version and they were read with no problems.

Great program!!! Cannot wait for it to get beyond BETA stage. Will gladly donate for it as I've done with DVD-RB! Thanks JDobbs!!

--RickWJ324

[cyberdoggy]

"selected source is not BD format" I got this error too for movie-only mode in v0.20.06 and yes it works fine if I make full backup too.

[Capsbackup]

I have now received this error on both v0.20.05 and v0.20.06. BD-RB does not seem to want to direct stream copy a VC-1, 29.97fps, 1080i. I used the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=14000" switch so not to reencode the file, and the crash happens just when it starts copying this file. It reencodes and rebuilds the VC-1, 23.976fps, 1080P file, which is the only one I have set to reencode, and it is the largest .m2ts. This is a full movie backup of Terminator 3 to BD-25.

-----------------------
[12:01:40] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: TERMINATOR_3
- Input BD size: 29.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:59.241]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[12:01:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:01:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [12:07:03] Collecting video information [00002]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 9,062 Kbs
- [12:07:03] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:29:12] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:12:42] Video Encode complete
- [16:12:42] Reencoding audio tracks
- [16:12:42] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:18:00]PHASE ONE complete
[16:18:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:18:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [16:18:03] DoEncoding() 00052 3

[Jake802]

Hello! I am getting the source selected is not BD Format too on Movie only.I am using Vista Home Premium 64! Sorry forgot to add it sees the source fine if I select Full Backup!

[Jake802]

Hello Did I miss something? I just used latest version of BD Rebuilder for X-Men. Did a Movie-Only Backup, Target Size BD-25.Kept all English Audio Tracks & English Subtitles,I had the following boxes checked:
Stricter AVCHD Compliance for movie only
Trellis Algorithm
Do Not Convert DTS to AC3
Do not reencode AC3
Use 640Kbs for AC3 encoding
Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding

The disc shows as a DATA Disc in my LG Player shows as AVCHD through PowerDVD on my computer and has no sound?!?!
The movie looks great but I have no sound?!?!

Any ideas would be great! Thanks!

I am going back to version 0.20.04 and give that a try because i do not recall having the sound issue with that version. Ill let you guys know if it works or not! Thanks!

Keep up the good work JDobbs!

[turbojet]

mpls files still contain stripped audio/subs so some players will try to access them.

[Sophocles]

This seems to be a genuine bug because the same issue has been mentioned in another thread far far away.

[tekmobile]

I have now received this error on both v0.20.05 and v0.20.06. BD-RB does not seem to want to direct stream copy a VC-1, 29.97fps, 1080i. I used the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=14000" switch so not to reencode the file, and the crash happens just when it starts copying this file. It reencodes and rebuilds the VC-1, 23.976fps, 1080P file, which is the only one I have set to reencode, and it is the largest .m2ts. This is a full movie backup of Terminator 3 to BD-25.

-----------------------
[12:01:40] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: TERMINATOR_3
- Input BD size: 29.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:59.241]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[12:01:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:01:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [12:07:03] Collecting video information [00002]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 9,062 Kbs
- [12:07:03] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:29:12] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:12:42] Video Encode complete
- [16:12:42] Reencoding audio tracks
- [16:12:42] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:18:00]PHASE ONE complete
[16:18:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:18:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [16:18:03] DoEncoding() 00052 3

I have also noticed that encodes fail on full backups during the rebuild process if only one m2ts needs to be encoded

[whytellyou]

Thanks JD, for the update, and for your hard work on this marvelous program.

Just an FYI...I've not had any Issues/Bugs whatsoever with the last up-teen versions.... all my encodings are movie-only to BD-9...

I once again would like to call upon all those who are benefiting from BD-Rebuilder & JDobbs' hard work to find it in themselves to donate what they can if they haven't done so already...
Cheers...:thanks:
I second this statement! Great program. I will send a few more $'s your way in a few days JD.

[michael1971]

"selected source is not BD format" I got this error too for movie-only mode in v0.20.06 and yes it works fine if I make full backup too.

Me too... on vista pro 32bits...

[jdobbs]

This "Source selected is not BD format" error is really weird... I rans several tests before posting and they were all fine... but I read the posts and tried it, I get that error also now.

That sucks.


I'll find it, fix it, and post today.

Ugghh...

[jdobbs]

I just updated the first post in this thread with a link to BD-RB v0.20.07. Changes for this version are:- Corrected an error introduced in v0.20.06 that made
movie-only mode selection result in "Source selected
is not BD format".
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.I apologize for the movie-only bug caused by v0.20.06. I made a last minute change to a single statement for readability and pretty much hosed movie-only mode... it should work correctly now.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have a strange problem with a backup of Terminator 3, NTSC, where the source is 1080i, 29.97fps, VC-1, and neither full backup nor movie only backup can be done with the audio in sync with the video. The only successful way I can back this one up is to use TsMuxer to remove pulldown on the source .m2ts file first, then create a new BluRay with TsMuxer, and then run the movie only option with BD-RB on the newly created 23.976 1080P Bluray. For some reason, the video plays ahead of the audio on the BD-RB backup on the 29.97fps 1080i original, but after the remove pulldown option thru TsMuxer, the audio and subs play perfectly in sync.

[datman]

@jdobbs;
I have a strange problem with a backup of Terminator 3, NTSC, where the source is 1080i, 21.97fps, VC-1, and neither full backup nor movie only backup can be done with the audio in sync with the video. The only successful way I can back this one up is to use TsMuxer to remove pulldown on the source .m2ts file first, then create a new BluRay with TsMuxer, and then run the movie only option with BD-RB on the newly created 23.976 1080P Bluray. For some reason, the video plays ahead of the audio on the BD-RB backup on the 29.97fps 1080i original, but after the remove pulldown option thru TsMuxer, the audio and subs play perfectly in sync.

This may be the same problem I've had a few times. I don't fully understand how you fixed it can you explain it on this thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146441
:thanks:

[Capsbackup]

@datman;
The problem seems to be the original authoring of this movie was a VC-1 29.97fps, 1080i (I corrected my typo above of 21.97). The original plays back just fine, but for some reason, after reencoding with BD-RB, the audio goes out of sync. BDInfo reports both the original and reencoded BD-RB as 29.97fps, but the audio is behind the video and gradually gets a longer delay further into the movie. So I ran TsMuxer on the original .m2ts file and it allowed me to select "change fps" and "remove pulldown", which I did and selected 24000/1001, and then selected to create a new Blu-ray disk. This now played back in sync. I then used BD-RB to create a movie only backup, and then the audio was in sync as well as the subs. I also tried a manual backup of the .m2ts file with MeGui to create the .x264 and TsMuxer to rebuild, and the results were also a success. However, I could not create a successful full movie backup this way since I was not able to change/substitute the original 29.97fps .m2ts file with the newly created and in sync 23.976fps .m2ts, and keep the working menu after the substitution of the clpi files from the new bluray creation. I tried with BDEdit and CLIPINF_Editor_v0.04b, but my lack of knowledge in this area prevents me from making the necessary changes to fix the broken pointers I made from changing the frame rate.

[Category 5]

Before I could even post the bug jdobbs fixed it! ...so I dontaed $5 to the cause.

thanks!

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi!

The fix for the Audio and Subs IDs fixed my problem with Madagascar (Ger).

In 20.05 the wrong subtitles were displayed. in 20.06 it is correct.

I will now try "The Prestige" where the wrong audio is played.

Thanks again.

Bye

[Furiousflea]

Why does every m2ts that should be 23.976 show up as 23.975 after processing withb BDRB in EAC3To?

I asked this a while ago but nobody responded :)

[MILLZY]

I have also noticed that encodes fail on full backups during the rebuild process if only one m2ts needs to be encoded


Never really had a problem before untill now:


[20:39:14] BD Rebuilder v0.20.06 (beta)
- Source: BDS1EGE1
- Input BD size: 30.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:23.529]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[20:39:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:39:14] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00033]
- [20:39:14] Reencoding: VID_00033 (1 of 35)
- [20:39:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00034]
- [20:39:19] Reencoding: VID_00034 (2 of 35)
- [20:39:25] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00037]
- [20:39:25] Reencoding: VID_00037 (3 of 35)
- [20:39:30] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00036]
- [20:39:30] Reencoding: VID_00036 (4 of 35)
- [20:39:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00090]
- [20:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00090 (5 of 35)
- [20:39:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00091]
- [20:39:40] Reencoding: VID_00091 (6 of 35)
- [20:39:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00089]
- [20:39:45] Reencoding: VID_00089 (7 of 35)
- [20:39:49] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00021]
- [20:39:49] Reencoding: VID_00021 (8 of 35)
- [20:39:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00028]
- [20:39:54] Reencoding: VID_00028 (9 of 35)
- [20:39:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00035]
- [20:39:57] Reencoding: VID_00035 (10 of 35)
- [20:40:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00027]
- [20:40:02] Reencoding: VID_00027 (11 of 35)
- [20:40:06] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00030]
- [20:40:06] Reencoding: VID_00030 (12 of 35)
- [20:40:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00031]
- [20:40:09] Reencoding: VID_00031 (13 of 35)
- [20:40:13] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00019]
- [20:40:13] Reencoding: VID_00019 (14 of 35)
- [20:40:17] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00029]
- [20:40:17] Reencoding: VID_00029 (15 of 35)
- [20:40:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00087]
- [20:40:21] Reencoding: VID_00087 (16 of 35)
- [20:40:25] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00044]
- [20:40:26] Reencoding: VID_00044 (17 of 35)
- [20:40:42] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00047]
- [20:40:44] Reencoding: VID_00047 (18 of 35)
- [20:40:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00013]
- [20:41:00] Reencoding: VID_00013 (19 of 35)
- [20:41:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00007]
- [20:41:30] Reencoding: VID_00007 (20 of 35)
- [20:41:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00102]
- [20:42:01] Reencoding: VID_00102 (21 of 35)
- [20:43:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00042]
- [20:43:12] Reencoding: VID_00042 (22 of 35)
- [20:44:17] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [20:44:17] Reencoding: VID_00003 (23 of 35)
- [20:45:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00040]
- [20:46:08] Reencoding: VID_00040 (24 of 35)
- [20:48:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [20:48:40] Reencoding: VID_00002 (25 of 35)
- [20:51:13] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00016]
- [20:51:22] Reencoding: VID_00016 (26 of 35)
- [20:53:12] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00043]
- [20:53:23] Reencoding: VID_00043 (27 of 35)
- [20:55:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00045]
- [20:55:59] Reencoding: VID_00045 (28 of 35)
- [20:59:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00041]
- [20:59:17] Reencoding: VID_00041 (29 of 35)
- [21:03:17] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [21:03:42] Reencoding: VID_00006 (30 of 35)
- [21:11:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [21:12:26] Reencoding: VID_00009 (31 of 35)
- [21:19:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00008]
- [21:20:03] Reencoding: VID_00008 (32 of 35)
- [21:30:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [21:31:45] Reencoding: VID_00010 (33 of 35)
- [21:45:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00011]
- [21:46:46] Reencoding: VID_00011 (34 of 35)
- [22:05:36] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [22:24:02] Reencoding: VID_00000 (35 of 35)
[07:09:00]PHASE ONE complete
[07:09:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:09:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [07:09:16] DoEncoding() 00076 4
-----------------------
[09:38:07] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: BDS1EGE1
- Input BD size: 30.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:23.529]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[09:38:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[09:38:09]PHASE ONE complete
[09:38:09]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:38:09] Rebuilding stream 00033 [1 of 35]
- [09:38:10] Rebuilding stream 00034 [2 of 35]
- [09:38:10] Rebuilding stream 00037 [3 of 35]
- [09:38:11] Rebuilding stream 00036 [4 of 35]
- [09:38:12] Rebuilding stream 00090 [5 of 35]
- [09:38:12] Rebuilding stream 00091 [6 of 35]
- [09:38:13] Rebuilding stream 00089 [7 of 35]
- [09:38:13] Rebuilding stream 00021 [8 of 35]
- [09:38:14] Rebuilding stream 00028 [9 of 35]
- [09:38:14] Rebuilding stream 00035 [10 of 35]
- [09:38:15] Rebuilding stream 00027 [11 of 35]
- [09:38:15] Rebuilding stream 00030 [12 of 35]
- [09:38:16] Rebuilding stream 00031 [13 of 35]
- [09:38:16] Rebuilding stream 00019 [14 of 35]
- [09:38:17] Rebuilding stream 00029 [15 of 35]
- [09:38:18] Rebuilding stream 00087 [16 of 35]
- [09:38:18] Rebuilding stream 00044 [17 of 35]
- [09:38:19] Rebuilding stream 00047 [18 of 35]
- [09:38:20] Rebuilding stream 00013 [19 of 35]
- [09:38:22] Rebuilding stream 00007 [20 of 35]
- [09:38:24] Rebuilding stream 00102 [21 of 35]
- [09:38:28] Rebuilding stream 00042 [22 of 35]
- [09:38:32] Rebuilding stream 00003 [23 of 35]
- [09:38:40] Rebuilding stream 00040 [24 of 35]
- [09:38:50] Rebuilding stream 00002 [25 of 35]
- [09:38:59] Rebuilding stream 00016 [26 of 35]
- [09:39:05] Rebuilding stream 00043 [27 of 35]
- [09:39:15] Rebuilding stream 00045 [28 of 35]
- [09:39:27] Rebuilding stream 00041 [29 of 35]
- [09:39:36] Rebuilding stream 00006 [30 of 35]
- [09:39:48] Rebuilding stream 00009 [31 of 35]
- [09:39:57] Rebuilding stream 00008 [32 of 35]
- [09:40:12] Rebuilding stream 00010 [33 of 35]
- [09:40:32] Rebuilding stream 00011 [34 of 35]
- [09:41:04] Rebuilding stream 00000 [35 of 35]
- [10:01:27] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [10:01:37] DoEncoding() 00076 4

Seem to be getting this error now at rebuild with 06,07 beta at full disc backup and quicker extras on a 25 bdr .When it failed the first time i still kept the workfiles.I then tried to just resume from a previous started job which was from v0.20.06 but recievied this different error code.

[DK]

thanx for all the hard work, jdobbs and this wonderful tool

$30 donated

[Capsbackup]

@MILLZY;
Seem to be getting this error now at rebuild with 06,07 beta at full disc backup and quicker extras on a 25 bdr .When it failed the first time i still kept the workfiles.I then tried to just resume from a previous started job which was from v0.20.06 but recievied this different error code.
This error seems to be a similar error code as to the one I posted above at #2623, but yours appears to be on the rebuilding of the reencoded files. My error was on a direct stream copy of a file that was not reencoded. Hopefully jdobbs will be able to nail this one down since more people are reporting this type of problem.

[Furiousflea]

Never really had a problem before untill now:


[20:39:14] BD Rebuilder v0.20.06 (beta)
- Source: BDS1EGE1
- Input BD size: 30.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:23.529]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[20:39:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:39:14] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00033]
- [20:39:14] Reencoding: VID_00033 (1 of 35)
- [20:39:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00034]
- [20:39:19] Reencoding: VID_00034 (2 of 35)
- [20:39:25] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00037]
- [20:39:25] Reencoding: VID_00037 (3 of 35)
- [20:39:30] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00036]
- [20:39:30] Reencoding: VID_00036 (4 of 35)
- [20:39:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00090]
- [20:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00090 (5 of 35)
- [20:39:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00091]
- [20:39:40] Reencoding: VID_00091 (6 of 35)
- [20:39:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00089]
- [20:39:45] Reencoding: VID_00089 (7 of 35)
- [20:39:49] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00021]
- [20:39:49] Reencoding: VID_00021 (8 of 35)
- [20:39:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00028]
- [20:39:54] Reencoding: VID_00028 (9 of 35)
- [20:39:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00035]
- [20:39:57] Reencoding: VID_00035 (10 of 35)
- [20:40:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00027]
- [20:40:02] Reencoding: VID_00027 (11 of 35)
- [20:40:06] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00030]
- [20:40:06] Reencoding: VID_00030 (12 of 35)
- [20:40:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00031]
- [20:40:09] Reencoding: VID_00031 (13 of 35)
- [20:40:13] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00019]
- [20:40:13] Reencoding: VID_00019 (14 of 35)
- [20:40:17] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00029]
- [20:40:17] Reencoding: VID_00029 (15 of 35)
- [20:40:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00087]
- [20:40:21] Reencoding: VID_00087 (16 of 35)
- [20:40:25] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00044]
- [20:40:26] Reencoding: VID_00044 (17 of 35)
- [20:40:42] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00047]
- [20:40:44] Reencoding: VID_00047 (18 of 35)
- [20:40:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00013]
- [20:41:00] Reencoding: VID_00013 (19 of 35)
- [20:41:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00007]
- [20:41:30] Reencoding: VID_00007 (20 of 35)
- [20:41:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00102]
- [20:42:01] Reencoding: VID_00102 (21 of 35)
- [20:43:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00042]
- [20:43:12] Reencoding: VID_00042 (22 of 35)
- [20:44:17] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [20:44:17] Reencoding: VID_00003 (23 of 35)
- [20:45:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00040]
- [20:46:08] Reencoding: VID_00040 (24 of 35)
- [20:48:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [20:48:40] Reencoding: VID_00002 (25 of 35)
- [20:51:13] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00016]
- [20:51:22] Reencoding: VID_00016 (26 of 35)
- [20:53:12] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00043]
- [20:53:23] Reencoding: VID_00043 (27 of 35)
- [20:55:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00045]
- [20:55:59] Reencoding: VID_00045 (28 of 35)
- [20:59:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00041]
- [20:59:17] Reencoding: VID_00041 (29 of 35)
- [21:03:17] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [21:03:42] Reencoding: VID_00006 (30 of 35)
- [21:11:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [21:12:26] Reencoding: VID_00009 (31 of 35)
- [21:19:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00008]
- [21:20:03] Reencoding: VID_00008 (32 of 35)
- [21:30:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [21:31:45] Reencoding: VID_00010 (33 of 35)
- [21:45:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00011]
- [21:46:46] Reencoding: VID_00011 (34 of 35)
- [22:05:36] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [22:24:02] Reencoding: VID_00000 (35 of 35)
[07:09:00]PHASE ONE complete
[07:09:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:09:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [07:09:16] DoEncoding() 00076 4
-----------------------
[09:38:07] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: BDS1EGE1
- Input BD size: 30.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:23.529]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[09:38:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[09:38:09]PHASE ONE complete
[09:38:09]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:38:09] Rebuilding stream 00033 [1 of 35]
- [09:38:10] Rebuilding stream 00034 [2 of 35]
- [09:38:10] Rebuilding stream 00037 [3 of 35]
- [09:38:11] Rebuilding stream 00036 [4 of 35]
- [09:38:12] Rebuilding stream 00090 [5 of 35]
- [09:38:12] Rebuilding stream 00091 [6 of 35]
- [09:38:13] Rebuilding stream 00089 [7 of 35]
- [09:38:13] Rebuilding stream 00021 [8 of 35]
- [09:38:14] Rebuilding stream 00028 [9 of 35]
- [09:38:14] Rebuilding stream 00035 [10 of 35]
- [09:38:15] Rebuilding stream 00027 [11 of 35]
- [09:38:15] Rebuilding stream 00030 [12 of 35]
- [09:38:16] Rebuilding stream 00031 [13 of 35]
- [09:38:16] Rebuilding stream 00019 [14 of 35]
- [09:38:17] Rebuilding stream 00029 [15 of 35]
- [09:38:18] Rebuilding stream 00087 [16 of 35]
- [09:38:18] Rebuilding stream 00044 [17 of 35]
- [09:38:19] Rebuilding stream 00047 [18 of 35]
- [09:38:20] Rebuilding stream 00013 [19 of 35]
- [09:38:22] Rebuilding stream 00007 [20 of 35]
- [09:38:24] Rebuilding stream 00102 [21 of 35]
- [09:38:28] Rebuilding stream 00042 [22 of 35]
- [09:38:32] Rebuilding stream 00003 [23 of 35]
- [09:38:40] Rebuilding stream 00040 [24 of 35]
- [09:38:50] Rebuilding stream 00002 [25 of 35]
- [09:38:59] Rebuilding stream 00016 [26 of 35]
- [09:39:05] Rebuilding stream 00043 [27 of 35]
- [09:39:15] Rebuilding stream 00045 [28 of 35]
- [09:39:27] Rebuilding stream 00041 [29 of 35]
- [09:39:36] Rebuilding stream 00006 [30 of 35]
- [09:39:48] Rebuilding stream 00009 [31 of 35]
- [09:39:57] Rebuilding stream 00008 [32 of 35]
- [09:40:12] Rebuilding stream 00010 [33 of 35]
- [09:40:32] Rebuilding stream 00011 [34 of 35]
- [09:41:04] Rebuilding stream 00000 [35 of 35]
- [10:01:27] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [10:01:37] DoEncoding() 00076 4

Seem to be getting this error now at rebuild with 06,07 beta at full disc backup and quicker extras on a 25 bdr .When it failed the first time i still kept the workfiles.I then tried to just resume from a previous started job which was from v0.20.06 but recievied this different error code.

I am also receving this error (I have set min m2ts high enough that only the main movie m2ts is being encoded due to hybrid interlaced vc1 being present causing crash if that gets encoded).

DoEncoding() 00076 4

[turbojet]

In movie only mode it's using --avchd which is good with tsmuxer 1.9.9 but it doesn't create the AUXDATA directory that Denon's and Pioneer's need. I would suggest creating that directory if strict AVCHD is disabled and don't create it if it's enabled.

[Furiousflea]

Sort out "set min m2ts="

It's screwed in the latest 0.20.06\7 versions.

You set it to something stupidly high like 4000 and I'm still seeing m2ts files that I shouldn't be seeing.

Is this because BDRB is really now doing it based on mpls size?

bad idea. surely that should be a seperate setting, and shouldn't set m2ts size=...but mpls=...

In any case, The main program should either show a tree with the different m2ts in each mpls with the mpls showing it's total size etc (like a flowchart)...

Or the old way...

Way it is now just makes stuff not work, since BDRB isn't actually showing what is in each mpls, but does seem to be analysing it based on how it's behaving with setting the min m2ts...Means we have to use eac3to to check out what m2ts goes in each mpls to make sure there isn't 2 different codecs being used causing out of spec output.

[bigcman1973]

Hey all, just want to say great job jdobbs. This is an absolutely great program. I downloaded the newest version and tried to shrink Step Brothers full disk and i get the message failed to encode and then it trys again and fails encode again and then quits. 2.0.0.5 seems to still encode. Thought you should know. Thanks for the program cant wait for the final version.

[jdobbs]

Sort out "set min m2ts="

It's screwed in the latest 0.20.06\7 versions.

You set it to something stupidly high like 4000 and I'm still seeing m2ts files that I shouldn't be seeing.

Is this because BDRB is really now doing it based on mpls size?

bad idea. surely that should be a seperate setting, and shouldn't set m2ts size=...but mpls=...

In any case, The main program should either show a tree with the different m2ts in each mpls with the mpls showing it's total size etc (like a flowchart)...

Or the old way...

Way it is now just makes stuff not work, since BDRB isn't actually showing what is in each mpls, but does seem to be analysing it based on how it's behaving with setting the min m2ts...Means we have to use eac3to to check out what m2ts goes in each mpls to make sure there isn't 2 different codecs being used causing out of spec output.It will not skip encoding on M2TS files that are part of a larger MPLS that have some part being encoded because of the issues reported earlier (in fact I think you reported it) with mismatched video types... so the minimum size doesn't apply to them. If you can figure out a way to encode and not encode at the same time -- let me know.

In any case, The main program should either show a tree with the different m2ts in each mpls with the mpls showing it's total size etc (like a flowchart)... It doesn't matter. You have an issue with any way you show them.

If you show by MPLS you can't change the settings correctly because the contributing M2TS files may be a part of more than one MPLS. If you list by M2TS you have the issue in reverse. So the bottom line is -- if an M2TS is a part of an MPLS that has any part to be encoded -- all the component parts have to be encoded.

Means we have to use eac3to to check out what m2ts goes in each mpls to make sure there isn't 2 different codecs being used causing out of spec output. That is exactly what was fixed and is causing the MIN size to seem to be ignored.... you can't have it both ways.

I'd love a suggestion as to how I can solve one issue without causing the other.

[jdobbs]

Hey all, just want to say great job jdobbs. This is an absolutely great program. I downloaded the newest version and tried to shrink Step Brothers full disk and i get the message failed to encode and then it trys again and fails encode again and then quits. 2.0.0.5 seems to still encode. Thought you should know. Thanks for the program cant wait for the final version. Can you do a little testing for me? If you use v0.20.07 with the older X264 version does it still fail? There were no changes to that part of the code except the X264 update.

[jdobbs]

Seem to be getting this error now at rebuild with 06,07 beta at full disc backup and quicker extras on a 25 bdr .When it failed the first time i still kept the workfiles.I then tried to just resume from a previous started job which was from v0.20.06 but recievied this different error code. DoEncoding() 00076 4That error is a "Path Not Found" that is returned. Judging by where it is happening (the "4") it seems to be when an attempt is made to read the INF file. But based on the LOG that seems impossible.

Even more confusing is how it is getting that error when REBUILDING -- DoEncoding() isn't even called then...

Can you give me some exact instructions that could make it repeat?

[Furiousflea]

It will not skip encoding on M2TS files that are part of a larger MPLS that have some part being encoded because of the issues reported earlier (in fact I think you reported it) with mismatched video types... so the minimum size doesn't apply to them. If you can figure out a way to encode and not encode at the same time -- let me know.

It doesn't matter. You have an issue with any way you show them.

If you show by MPLS you can't change the settings correctly because the contributing M2TS files may be a part of more than one MPLS. If you list by M2TS you have the issue in reverse. So the bottom line is -- if an M2TS is a part of an MPLS that has any part to be encoded -- all the component parts have to be encoded.

That is exactly what was fixed and is causing the MIN size to seem off.... you can't have it both ways.

I haven't explained myself clearly.

Even if I set the min m2ts to 20GB, there are m2ts still showing that should definately not be, they are not part of the main movie m2ts, the sum of the m2ts is not more than 20GB - They should not be appearing.

This is evident in many discs (Noteable one is the film "300"). Which tested to see if the stream mapping has been corrected and it has, thanx for that :)


I can see what you are doing, I'm just saying that maybe it would be a good idea to have a +\- like for expanding folder etc in windows explorer...would clean the ui up a little. Not an issue to me though.


I mean the whole reason the set m2ts options is so useful is pretty much purely (I think this is generally true) for the hybrid vc1 that x264 crasges with. Maybe just being able to select the mpls to not compress would be a good idea, because it's very wasteful to select encoding based on a maximum size...means all the stuff that isn't hybrid doesn't get encoded either.

Anyways, this does sound like a moan, was just trying to draw attention to the weird min m2ts thing that's going on.

[jdobbs]

I haven't explained myself clearly.

Even if I set the min m2ts to 20GB, there are m2ts still showing that should definately not be, they are not part of the main movie m2ts, the sum of the m2ts is not more than 20GB - They should not be appearing.

This is evident in many discs (Noteable one is the film "300"). Which tested to see if the stream mapping has been corrected and it has, thanx for that :)


I can see what you are doing, I'm just saying that maybe it would be a good idea to have a +\- like for expanding folder etc in windows explorer...would clean the ui up a little. Not an issue to me though.


I mean the whole reason the set m2ts options is so useful is pretty much purely (I think this is generally true) for the hybrid vc1 that x264 crasges with. Maybe just being able to select the mpls to not compress would be a good idea, because it's very wasteful to select encoding based on a maximum size...means all the stuff that isn't hybrid doesn't get encoded either.

Anyways, this does sound like a moan, was just trying to draw attention to the weird min m2ts thing that's going on.
But they might be a part of another (not the MAIN MPLS) that has a component part that is being encoded. For example: suppose you have a very short section that is added to the end of the main MPLS... and it is also added to the end of several other shorter MPLSs. Then it has to be encoded (because it is in the MAIN) and so do all the others (because it is a component part of each of them).

I have "300" on my hard drive. Tell be what I need to do to see what problem you're describing?

I'm starting to think it might be better to just throw away the MIN setting and reencode everything. But then I have to find another way to get around those hybrid VC-1 streams. Even if I set it so you can choose them, though, you can't say "don't encode this section" if it is a component part of another MPLS that has any part of it encoded.

This is a tough nut to crack.

[bigcman1973]

I tried swapping the x264 and still the same thing. This is what it shows.

-----------------------
[19:28:58] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: STEP_BROTHERS
- Input BD size: 44.29 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:11.141]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[19:28:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:28:59] Reencoding: VID_00385 (1 of 65)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[19:29:01] - Failed video encode, aborted

[bigcman1973]

Sorry i just tried something else and now it works. i turned off the "Quicker" Encode for Extras and now it works. Hope this helps.

[turbojet]

When you change to quicker extras it moves the shortest clips to the top so it's almost always going to change the original numerical order in how it encodes. Are you sure it encoded VID_00385 successfully?

[bigcman1973]

Yes, like i said once i unchecked Quicker Encodes for Extras it started working fine, infact its running right now.

[Jake802]

I give up couldnt get audio on any of the versions of BD I used even newest.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Can you give me some exact instructions that could make it repeat?
This is the disc and error I received which seems to be similar to MILLZY.

I have now received this error on both v0.20.05 and v0.20.06. BD-RB does not seem to want to direct stream copy a VC-1, 29.97fps, 1080i. I used the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=14000" switch so not to reencode the file, and the crash happens just when it starts copying this file. It reencodes and rebuilds the VC-1, 23.976fps, 1080P file, which is the only one I have set to reencode, and it is the largest .m2ts. This is a full movie backup of Terminator 3 to BD-25.

-----------------------
[12:01:40] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: TERMINATOR_3
- Input BD size: 29.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:59.241]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[12:01:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:01:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [12:07:03] Collecting video information [00002]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 9,062 Kbs
- [12:07:03] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:29:12] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:12:42] Video Encode complete
- [16:12:42] Reencoding audio tracks
- [16:12:42] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:18:00]PHASE ONE complete
[16:18:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:18:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [16:18:03] DoEncoding() 00052 3

[jdobbs]

@MILLZY;

This error seems to be a similar error code as to the one I posted above at #2623, but yours appears to be on the rebuilding of the reencoded files. My error was on a direct stream copy of a file that was not reencoded. Hopefully jdobbs will be able to nail this one down since more people are reporting this type of problem.Direct stream copy? Explain please.

[MILLZY]

Tried the exact same movie again with version v0.20.05 (beta):


[19:10:45] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: BDS1EGE1
- Input BD size: 30.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:21:05.415]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[19:10:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:10:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [19:10:45] Reencoding: VID_00003 (1 of 13)
- [19:12:22] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00040]
- [19:12:30] Reencoding: VID_00040 (2 of 13)
- [19:14:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [19:14:54] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 13)
- [19:17:14] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00016]
- [19:17:23] Reencoding: VID_00016 (4 of 13)
- [19:19:03] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00043]
- [19:19:13] Reencoding: VID_00043 (5 of 13)
- [19:21:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00045]
- [19:21:39] Reencoding: VID_00045 (6 of 13)
- [19:24:30] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00041]
- [19:24:44] Reencoding: VID_00041 (7 of 13)
- [19:28:30] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [19:28:52] Reencoding: VID_00006 (8 of 13)
- [19:36:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [19:37:06] Reencoding: VID_00009 (9 of 13)
- [19:43:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00008]
- [19:44:11] Reencoding: VID_00008 (10 of 13)
- [19:54:33] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [19:55:12] Reencoding: VID_00010 (11 of 13)
- [20:08:03] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00011]
- [20:09:25] Reencoding: VID_00011 (12 of 13)
- [20:27:07] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [20:42:46] Reencoding: VID_00000 (13 of 13)
[05:03:41]PHASE ONE complete
[05:03:41]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [05:03:41] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [05:04:11] DoEncoding() 00076 4

The only thing that is the same as the last time it failed is the update for x264.Ive never had any probs with version v0.20.05 (beta) but getting them now.

[tekmobile]

@jdobbs;

This is the disc and error I received which seems to be similar to MILLZY.

I have now received this error on both v0.20.05 and v0.20.06. BD-RB does not seem to want to direct stream copy a VC-1, 29.97fps, 1080i. I used the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=14000" switch so not to reencode the file, and the crash happens just when it starts copying this file. It reencodes and rebuilds the VC-1, 23.976fps, 1080P file, which is the only one I have set to reencode, and it is the largest .m2ts. This is a full movie backup of Terminator 3 to BD-25.

-----------------------
[12:01:40] BD Rebuilder v0.20.05 (beta)
- Source: TERMINATOR_3
- Input BD size: 29.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:59.241]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[12:01:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:01:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [12:07:03] Collecting video information [00002]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 9,062 Kbs
- [12:07:03] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:29:12] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:12:42] Video Encode complete
- [16:12:42] Reencoding audio tracks
- [16:12:42] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:18:00]PHASE ONE complete
[16:18:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:18:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [16:18:03] DoEncoding() 00052 3

Ive come across this when you set the min m2ts high enough to only encode the main m2ts this first came apparant on the dark knight that only had about 5GB of extras but after some playing about I found it happened on pretty much every title where the extras were just a small part of the disc and therefore could be skipped by setting the min m2ts

[Furiousflea]

But they might be a part of another (not the MAIN MPLS) that has a component part that is being encoded. For example: suppose you have a very short section that is added to the end of the main MPLS... and it is also added to the end of several other shorter MPLSs. Then it has to be encoded (because it is in the MAIN) and so do all the others (because it is a component part of each of them).

I have "300" on my hard drive. Tell be what I need to do to see what problem you're describing?

I'm starting to think it might be better to just throw away the MIN setting and reencode everything. But then I have to find another way to get around those hybrid VC-1 streams. Even if I set it so you can choose them, though, you can't say "don't encode this section" if it is a component part of another MPLS that has any part of it encoded.

This is a tough nut to crack.

I've taken in what you're saying and it is a tough nut to crack for sure. But this is a serperate issue, of course that is just what I *think*. If you have the film "300" you should be able to repeat it by loading the "300" film, setting BD25 output and full disc mode...Then setting min m2ts to 4000-Any number.

You will find that the main movie m2ts is there (25GB VC1 23.976p with TrueHD\LPCM\other stuff)

You will also find 10-12 extra m2ts that are part of their own mpls they are about 200-300mb each and are 480i 29.97 with just a big load of Dolby Digital 2.0 for audio.

There is no way these are part of the same m2ts...

...Again, I think :)

Cheers for looking into it.

[Capsbackup]

Direct stream copy? Explain please.
I was only reencoding the one .m2ts, so I believed it was just copying the remaining .m2ts files directly as they are on the original disc. Maybe that is not the correct way of phrasing it.
The reason I tried this was this disc has 2 main .m2ts files.The first, 00001.m2ts is the main movie with 6 audio tracks and 4 subtitle tracks. BDInfo reports it as a VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps. The second .m2ts, 00002.m2ts is basically the same as the first 00001.m2ts except BDInfo reports it as VC-1, 1080P, 23.976fps. It has only 1 audio track and no subtitle tracks. It is the main movie with an occasional pop up window with the director and actors comments. This pop up window is not a seperate .m2ts but part of the encoding of this 00002.m2ts. For some reason, whether I try to do a full backup or movie only backup of this movie, the audio goes out of sync for the main 00001.m2ts file. The second .m2ts, which I would not want for a movie only backup since it has the pop up window with the director and actor comments, does keep perfect audio sync though. So, since the second 00002.m2ts file is larger than the first 00001.m2ts file, I believed by using the Min_M2TS switch would only reencode the second .m2ts file and leave the first alone and just copy it, thus keeping the audio in sync, since the original is in sync. However, that is where the "DoEncoding()" error happens. The only reencoded file, 00002.m2ts was created and rebuilt, and there is a new 00002.m2ts and clpi file in the Workfiles folder, but the crash prevents all the rest of the untouched .m2ts files from being copied/recreated in there original state.

EDIT
Though this does not contribute to the problem of the "DoEncoding" error, this is what I did to ultimately make a perfectly in sync movie only backup.

@datman;
The problem seems to be the original authoring of this movie was a VC-1 29.97fps, 1080i (I corrected my typo above of 21.97). The original plays back just fine, but for some reason, after reencoding with BD-RB, the audio goes out of sync. BDInfo reports both the original and reencoded BD-RB as 29.97fps, but the audio is behind the video and gradually gets a longer delay further into the movie. So I ran TsMuxer on the original .m2ts file and it allowed me to select "change fps" and "remove pulldown", which I did and selected 24000/1001, and then selected to create a new Blu-ray disk. This now played back in sync. I then used BD-RB to create a movie only backup, and then the audio was in sync as well as the subs. I also tried a manual backup of the .m2ts file with MeGui to create the .x264 and TsMuxer to rebuild, and the results were also a success. However, I could not create a successful full movie backup this way since I was not able to change/substitute the original 29.97fps .m2ts file with the newly created and in sync 23.976fps .m2ts, and keep the working menu after the substitution of the clpi files from the new bluray creation. I tried with BDEdit and CLIPINF_Editor_v0.04b, but my lack of knowledge in this area prevents me from making the necessary changes to fix the broken pointers I made from changing the frame rate.

[DaMacFunkin]

Full back up to Bd 25 of Max Payne doesn't work, it does exactly the same as what a lot of my back ups from over the last 3 months do, Loads fine, plays extras fine, hangs when selecting play movie, i originally only encountered this problem on a lot of universal titles, but now it doesn't seem to be such an exclusive problem. i keep my BD Rebuilder and tools upto date, and i would definatley say that about 40% of the films i try exhibit this problem, and i know that other people have the same problems has i do with the same films....?

[Shuttle99]

Not sure what happened between 20.05 & 20.07 but the movie only convert no longer auto loads & plays on my Panasonic BD55 player. They do play on the PS3 but only manually loading the stream & they used to auto play. Settings are the same on both versions someone mention the auxdata folder might be missing but it there so not sure what has changed and am going back to 20.05.

[jdobbs]

Full back up to Bd 25 of Max Payne doesn't work, it does exactly the same as what a lot of my back ups from over the last 3 months do, Loads fine, plays extras fine, hangs when selecting play movie, i originally only encountered this problem on a lot of universal titles, but now it doesn't seem to be such an exclusive problem. i keep my BD Rebuilder and tools upto date, and i would definatley say that about 40% of the films i try exhibit this problem, and i know that other people have the same problems has i do with the same films....? Max Payne has the PiP problem I mentioned earlier. I'm working on it.

[jdobbs]

Not sure what happened between 20.05 & 20.07 but the movie only convert no longer auto loads & plays on my Panasonic BD55 player. They do play on the PS3 but only manually loading the stream & they used to auto play. Settings are the same on both versions someone mention the auxdata folder might be missing but it there so not sure what has changed and am going back to 20.05. I'll look into it -- but frankly nothing has changed in the disc or folder formatting so I'm not sure how it could be different.

[Discoboy]

Not sure what happened between 20.05 & 20.07 but the movie only convert no longer auto loads & plays on my Panasonic BD55 player. They do play on the PS3 but only manually loading the stream & they used to auto play. Settings are the same on both versions someone mention the auxdata folder might be missing but it there so not sure what has changed and am going back to 20.05.

I Believe it’s because of tsMuxer 1.9.9 now used in BD_RB. BD_RB is using the BD output mode of tsMuxer. The output needs to be set to AVCHD mode otherwise it is will not play on Panny SAP’s. Run the final output project of BD_RB back through tsMuxer but set the output mode to AVCHD.

[Shuttle99]

I Believe it’s because of tsMuxer 1.9.9 now used in BD_RB. BD_RB is using the BD output mode of tsMuxer. The output needs to be set to AVCHD mode otherwise it is will not play on Panny SAP’s. Run the final output project of BD_RB back through tsMuxer but set the output mode to AVCHD.

I am not sure what needs to be set to AVCHD mode. Let me know & I will try it.

Thanks

[Discoboy]

It’s not a setting in BD_RB but an option for the output of tsMuxeR since v1.8.35. You need to run the ouput project files of your BD_RB project back through tsMuxer v1.9.9 using the tsMuxer GUI application standalone from BD_RB

[jdobbs]

It’s not a setting in BD_RB but an option for the output of tsMuxeR since v1.8.35. You need to run the ouput project files of your BD_RB project back through tsMuxer v1.9.9 using the tsMuxer GUI application standalone from BD_RBAre you saying all Movie-Only encodes should be set to AVCHD now? Any impact on other players?

[massiah]

Just wanted to post my experience with the current and last release of BD RB.
I have gotten the same error as others on here with the no Movie Only encode allowed on the previous release(20.06).
I also have tried to do Full Movie encode with both versions and they both have locked up my PC at about 6%-7% on every attempt's Total Progress.
This never happened to me before with any version of BDRB, even while browsing the internet and encoding at the same time.

I tried two movies that have come out recently-BABYLON A.D. and NOTORIOUS and both have frozen my PC.

I run a Vista 64bit Ultimate OS with 8GB RAM and multiple SATA hard drives(internal and external).
No other stuff going on in the background; not even torrents because I use a seedbox now.

Here is my config file...maybe someone can tell me what's up:


[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
TRELLIS=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=Q:\VIDEOS\BABYLON_AD\
WORKING_PATH=E:\BD REBUILDER FOLDER\

[turbojet]

Are you saying all Movie-Only encodes should be set to AVCHD now? Any impact on other players?

--avchd is like the old --bluray except it removes the empty folders as well.

The problem with --avchd in 1.9.9 is it doesn't output AUXDATA directory which denon and phillips BD players need. A solution is to either make that directory when strict avchd setting is disabled or you could use tsmuxer 1.10.1 which outputs AUXDATA directory in --avchd mode.

PS3 and some Panasonics have trouble with --bluray output on DVD see here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339) for results that have been gathered with that switch.

[Chefkoch_ico]

I just tried another universal title, Bourne Supremicy (EUR).

Just like all other Universal title I tried (Bourne Identity, Hellboy 2), The main movie does not start in full backup mode.

After pressing "play movie" the screen stays black.


I too am having lots of problems with Universal Titles, and some Dreamworks titles which are essentially Universal, get the same probs as you either on Power DVD 8.0 or Panasonic BD-30, i have left them trying to load on power dvd for up to an hour....

I was hoping, the latest BD-RB version fixed this problem, but it does not.

Tried "The mummy 3", problem stayed.

Bye

[liquidskin76]

- Rewrote several sections that perform audio encoding
and integrated new routines for processing.

@jdobbs

Just curious regarding this change in v0.20.06, is it referring to the problem of the original HD LPCM audio still being reencoding to 5.1 Dolby, when the option to keep HD audio is enabled?

Thanks

[jdobbs]

I've taken in what you're saying and it is a tough nut to crack for sure. But this is a serperate issue, of course that is just what I *think*. If you have the film "300" you should be able to repeat it by loading the "300" film, setting BD25 output and full disc mode...Then setting min m2ts to 4000-Any number.

You will find that the main movie m2ts is there (25GB VC1 23.976p with TrueHD\LPCM\other stuff)

You will also find 10-12 extra m2ts that are part of their own mpls they are about 200-300mb each and are 480i 29.97 with just a big load of Dolby Digital 2.0 for audio.

There is no way these are part of the same m2ts...

...Again, I think :)

Cheers for looking into it. Well, I have to correct myself. I went through the code -- and the way that I had done the multi-part MPLS check was incorrect. The result was that any M2TS (regardless of size) was being included if it was a part of a multipart MPLS (even if none of the parts were large enough to force a "keep").

I've fixed it for the next version.

[Jake802]

Last time I checked the AVCHD box my LG Player wouldnt read my movie only encoded disc it kept seeing it as a DATA Disc and my LG is supposed to be able to play AVCHD.Just wanted to let you guys know.It must have been some fluke, I tried again....and the Movie Only Rip of X2 worked for computer,Checking the Blu-Ray Player a little later today! Thanks!

[rafrag]

I'll look into it -- but frankly nothing has changed in the disc or folder formatting so I'm not sure how it could be different.

i noticed that too, i did one title using .07 and it resulted in copy that only works by selecting actual stream from bd\stream folder.
later i did it again using ver. 05 and same work folder so it only muxed files that were transcoded and it works fine.

[datman]

Well this is one of the 2 errors I have had several times. I'm trying to encode Davinci code and it just won't do it. It's the error where the video stops but the sound keeps going while the last frame is frozen.

My observation is that the problem occurs during the first pass and if you happen to check on it you will see the speed has increased sharply and the CPU usage has dropped. From that point on the speed remains very fast. In the past when this happened I dust had to re-encode once and it would work.
This dvd, I tried off a fresh ISO rip and a fresh rip to folder both using anydvd. All the ISO attempts the video froze within the first 5 minutes. The folder rip made more that half way before it froze. I’m trying another folder rip maybe it will go all the way.

Oddly with this dvd I can’t even mux it with any tool

I know I’m not the only one having this error.

[turbojet]

Well this is one of the 2 errors I have had several times. I'm trying to encode Davinci code and it just won't do it. It's the error where the video stops but the sound keeps going while the last frame is frozen.

My observation is that the problem occurs during the first pass and if you happen to check on it you will see the speed has increased sharply and the CPU usage has dropped. From that point on the speed remains very fast. In the past when this happened I dust had to re-encode once and it would work.
This dvd, I tried off a fresh ISO rip and a fresh rip to folder both using anydvd. All the ISO attempts the video froze within the first 5 minutes. The folder rip made more that half way before it froze. I’m trying another folder rip maybe it will go all the way.

Oddly with this dvd I can’t even mux it with any tool

I know I’m not the only one having this error.

Sounds like a decoding error could you cut a short clip of that frame that froze and upload it to sendspace or mediafire?

[DaMacFunkin]

Max Payne has the PiP problem I mentioned earlier. I'm working on it.

Cheers dude, keep going... :devil:

[Jake802]

I ran into problem trying to do Full BD-25 Backup of The Spirit...

-----------------------
[00:34:32] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: THE_SPIRIT
- Input BD size: 40.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:53:09.462]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[00:34:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:34:32] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00232]
- [00:34:38] Reencoding: VID_00232 (1 of 14)
- [00:49:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00233]
- [00:49:52] Reencoding: VID_00233 (2 of 14)
- [01:02:39] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00240]
- [01:02:39] Reencoding: VID_00240 (3 of 14)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[01:02:40] - Failed video encode, aborted

[turbojet]

I ran into problem trying to do Full BD-25 Backup of The Spirit...

-----------------------
[00:34:32] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: THE_SPIRIT
- Input BD size: 40.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:53:09.462]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[00:34:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:34:32] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00232]
- [00:34:38] Reencoding: VID_00232 (1 of 14)
- [00:49:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00233]
- [00:49:52] Reencoding: VID_00233 (2 of 14)
- [01:02:39] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00240]
- [01:02:39] Reencoding: VID_00240 (3 of 14)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[01:02:40] - Failed video encode, aborted

Sounds like a decoder error, more than likely interlaced VC-1. Can you cut a little part 00240.m2ts and upload it to sendspace or mediafire?

[onihei]

I got a following message with version 0.20.07.

Message:
BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1 [22:26:13] SourceCheck() 00006 1

What is a problem ?

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs...Just done "300" again and the disc works (TrueHD audio correctly mapped etc etc).

However a single extra does not work, I know you have the disc so if you could try going to the main menu and selecting the 1st extra on the left just below the commentry selection boxes. When I go to play it the screen goes black then just appears again with a still image of the menu background with no text overlay.

This extra wasn't even being encoded in when I did the disc. I suspect this is due to the incorrect handling of the mpls thing that you have changed in the last 06\07 versions.

Could you have a look at that for me please. I tested on both 06\07 with same results.

Every single one of the other extras is working (ones that were encoded and ones that weren't...so that could throw the mpls theory to the wind...)

[Tongariro]

I had encounter a wierd problem in my last two Movies.
The movies are "The Spirit" and "the incredible Hulk" US.

Using the BD-RB 0.20.07 version, everything works(menu's extra etc..) beside the movie it self which i getting black screen the Player Freezes(pana BD35).
I tried the BD on the PC using PowerDvd and the same.
I did some investigation using the workfile directory:
The original(before BD-RB process) m2ts is working properly.
The movie.h264 in the BD-RB work directory works perfect.
The Sound.dts also works O.K

I tried to mux those together using tsMuxer 1.9.9 to m2ts file and the result was exactly like in the original output from the BD-RB, black screen and player freezes.

I think its because the DTS HD audio.

Is anyone encounter this problem?
And if so what can be done to solve it?

[jdobbs]

jdobbs...Just done "300" again and the disc works (TrueHD audio correctly mapped etc etc).

However a single extra does not work, I know you have the disc so if you could try going to the main menu and selecting the 1st extra on the left just below the commentry selection boxes. When I go to play it the screen goes black then just appears again with a still image of the menu background with no text overlay.

This extra wasn't even being encoded in when I did the disc. I suspect this is due to the incorrect handling of the mpls thing that you have changed in the last 06\07 versions.

Could you have a look at that for me please. I tested on both 06\07 with same results.

Every single one of the other extras is working (ones that were encoded and ones that weren't...so that could throw the mpls theory to the wind...)I'll check it out. I'm not sure how long ago I did the backup I have now, so I'll have to redo from scratch -- it'll be a few hours before I can give feedback.

[jdobbs]

I had encounter a wierd problem in my last two Movies.
The movies are "The Spirit" and "the incredible Hulk" US.

Using the BD-RB 0.20.07 version, everything works(menu's extra etc..) beside the movie it self which i getting black screen the Player Freezes(pana BD35).
I tried the BD on the PC using PowerDvd and the same.
I did some investigation using the workfile directory:
The original(before BD-RB process) m2ts is working properly.
The movie.h264 in the BD-RB work directory works perfect.
The Sound.dts also works O.K

I tried to mux those together using tsMuxer 1.9.9 to m2ts file and the result was exactly like in the original output from the BD-RB, black screen and player freezes.

I think its because the DTS HD audio.

Is anyone encounter this problem?
And if so what can be done to solve it? I have "The Spirit" (bought it today) but haven't tried it yet. I'll do it after "300" finishes. Can you try reencoding the DTS HD to AC3 and see how it works?

[jdobbs]

@Furiousflea

You mentioned that you think the first extra didn't get reencoded.

1. Did you reencode for BD-25 with MIN_M2TS_SIZE set?
2. If so, what was the setting?

[cyberdoggy]

O.K. I did a full convert and a movie only convert with v0.20.07 (witch by the way kicks some serious butt with speed now) but when I went to play in my panasonic standalone player did not work whatsoever, Kept coming up Disk incompatible. made me wonder being I never had a problem before, so I I then tried it without redoing the whole thing over, I just deleted the output dir that I was suppose to burn to disk and replaced the TSMUXER.exe file with the one from v0.20.05 and then let it do a rebuild again and burned that to disk and got no problem at all. So in conclusion I am thinking something is different with the tsmuxer.exe file that was updated, so if you Panny people are having difficulty try that too or just do a manual mux yourself with the newest tsmuxer with the AVCHD setting and try that, I'm not sure but I am thinking that may work too.

[Furiousflea]

@Furiousflea

You mentioned that you think the first extra didn't get reencoded.

1. Did you reencode for BD-25 with MIN_M2TS_SIZE set?
2. If so, what was the setting?

1. Yes BD25 default set - not changed.

2. MIN_M2TS_SIZE=4000


(due to bug as you outlined earlier, about 12 mpeg2 m2ts' are still encoded, I believe these are the extras on the right in the menu for the disc).

I went through all the extras on the disc. As I said the 1st one on the left won't play. The rest on the left will and are all in VC1 as expected. The ones on the right are all encoded (they are small little featurette thingys) and appear as AVC.

(according to my Sony BDP-S550).

[Category 5]

Tried to do K.Bill1 movie only to a BD25 today. Got "error unable to decode audio" no matter if I selected uncompressed or DD audio in 2.0.7. Went back to 2.0.5 and all works. Any ideas why?

[jdobbs]

I do these all the time, and the only time I've ever gotten that was when TSMUXER was not functioning correctly or the path pointer (in the INI) to TSMUXER.EXE is wrong. Try a different version of TSMUXER (put it in the TOOLS folder under BD-RB's directory). I'd suggest you try the one from v0.20.05.

[Tongariro]

I have "The Spirit" (bought it today) but haven't tried it yet. I'll do it after "300" finishes. Can you try reencoding the DTS HD to AC3 and see how it works?


Running right now it will take few hours.

I forgot to tell yo it is DTS Master Audio not HD.

I had DTS HD before with no problem.
Those two are my first master Audio backup.

By the way Great S/W and thanks for all the Help.

[Category 5]

I do these all the time, and the only time I've ever gotten that was when TSMUXER was not functioning correctly or the path pointer (in the INI) to TSMUXER.EXE is wrong. Try a different version of TSMUXER (put it in the TOOLS folder under BD-RB's directory). I'd suggest you try the one from v0.20.05.

If this was directed at me I'll try as soon as 2.05 gets done with the encode. I'll report back if that solved the problem.

[jdobbs]

Just posted a new download link on the first post of this thread for another update (BD-RB v0.20.08). Here are the changes for this version:- Corrected source of "DoEncoding() 76 4" error.
- Corrected an error in which some files were being
incorrectly reencoded even though they were smaller
than the MIN_MT2S_SIZE parameter (BD-25 only). Note
that there may still be (and should be) times when
files smaller than MIN_M2TS_SIZE are encoded (when
included in an MPLS than also has a larger M2TS).
- Changed processing so that now selecting "Stricter
AVCHD Compliance..." in the SETUP menu now sets the
"--avchd" flag for TSMUXER.
- Updated TSMUXER.EXE to the latest release (v1.10.1).
- Improved error handling and identification system.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[PNYBOY]

Help with Sin City. Trying to do a BD-25 movie only with HD audio (DTS HD MAster). When I hit "Back-up", I get an error code that it can't extract the audio. Any ideas?

[datman]

Sounds like a decoding error could you cut a short clip of that frame that froze and upload it to sendspace or mediafire?

I'm guessing I had a problem ripping the movie, because I was also unable to run tsmuxer from either rip or iso-rip. I just ran tsmuxer off the disc and it worked fine. Tonight I will try encoding it again:thanks:

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Is the DoEncoding() 76 4 error a different error than DoEncoding() 00052 3 ? I will try this new release on Terminator 3 again, however I do not believe it is related in any way to the other issue I had with this movie, which was the audio going progressively more and more out of sync with the video as the movie plays.( post # 2633 and # 2635 three pages back).

[Jake802]

Sounds like a decoder error, more than likely interlaced VC-1. Can you cut a little part 00240.m2ts and upload it to sendspace or mediafire?

I could. How do I do that though?

[Jake802]

I am going to try the newest version and see what happens with that. Then if I have the same issue, and someone could explain to me about sending/uploading the small piece of the file, I would be glad to!

[Category 5]

Help with Sin City. Trying to do a BD-25 movie only with HD audio (DTS HD MAster). When I hit "Back-up", I get an error code that it can't extract the audio. Any ideas?

Same error I got with 2.07 trying to do KBill1 movie only. Retried with 2.05 and it worked fine.

What version are you using?

[turbojet]

Movie only mode still only plays on a handful of players and strict avchd option no longer does what it used to do.

To get it back to how it was, which worked well, with the latest tsmuxer builds use --avchd for both movie only modes.
Make BDMV/JAR and BDMV/META directories when strict avchd is disabled (this may not make a difference).
Delete BDMV/AUXDATA directory when strict avchd is enabled.

720p subs are still completely unusable and stripped streams aren't removed from mpls files so accessible by some players.

[Category 5]

2.05 worked for Kill Bill 1 but the subtitles need to be turned on manually. is there a way to make the second subtitle track forced (1st is whole movie, second is only foreign language subs)?

I will try 2.08 now, with the old file from 2.05

[Furiousflea]

0.20.08 is SCREWED

EDIT - Not screwed...see post below...;)

[turbojet]

I just loaded 8 retail BD iso's just fine here. I think it's something besides BD-Rebuilder or maybe an option that breaks it, like movie only did in 0.28.07

[MILLZY]

0.20.08 is SCREWED

Just attempting to load a bluray structure from the hard drive that works perfectly fine on all previous releases...

A dialogue box appears...

"Stop Statement Encountered"....


Jdobbs, it's a faulty release good man.... :)


EDIT - IT won't load ANYTHING at all.

Just loaded a few bluray folders with no problems.Trying bedtime stories again at fast encode to see if i have the same probs as last time.(full backup)

[Furiousflea]

I just loaded 8 retail BD iso's just fine here. I think it's something besides BD-Rebuilder or maybe an option that breaks it, like movie only did in 0.28.07

Weird, I just tried a load of old versions...no problem.

This version...default options...get that dialogue every time.

[Furiousflea]

0.20.08 is SCREWED

Just attempting to load a bluray structure from the hard drive that works perfectly fine on all previous releases...

A dialogue box appears...

"Stop Statement Encountered"....


Jdobbs, it's a faulty release good man.... :)


EDIT - IT won't load ANYTHING at all.

Found the problem, and the problem is with BDRB not my system.

1. If I did a copied BDRB to a "fresh" folder (not overwriting) and don't chane ANY options before loading a bluray folder, you will get the error...try it and see ;)

2. If you do it to a "fresh" folder...go into the options first and change the settings then save them...It will load fine :)

...Something to do with loading the settings from the ini before the options are present...I think.

So it's working fine now, but might want to chance the way it goes on the first run jdobbs...

[GaPony]

You're talking about the program files, right? Such as creating a new folder like... C:\BD_R-2008 instead of overwriting existing program files in a C:\BD_Rebuilder folder.

It would make sense that a new release of BD-Rebuilder would come without an .ini file and the old one from the previous version would cause a problem. I always create a new folder for each release, so I haven't seen the problem you mentioned.

I'm glad you got it sorted, but your "0.20.08 is screwed" comment made me a bit gunshy to even check out the new release. You might want to edit those posts for a bit less panicky initial response to the new release. :)

[turbojet]

Found the problem, and the problem is with BDRB not my system.

1. If I did a copied BDRB to a "fresh" folder (not overwriting) and don't chane ANY options before loading a bluray folder, you will get the error...try it and see ;)

2. If you do it to a "fresh" folder...go into the options first and change the settings then save them...It will load fine :)

...Something to do with loading the settings from the ini before the options are present...I think.

So it's working fine now, but might want to chance the way it goes on the first run jdobbs...

I can't reproduce this with the pesky ini or deleting the ini and letting it make it's own. Does C:\ exist on your computer?

I really wish the ini wasn't included in the pack as it doesn't really do anything except sets idle priority which could just as well be done on first load if no ini.

I've already requested this as well as 2 fairly big but easy to fix bugs and I've offered solutions but it's getting awfully frustrating when the developer doesn't reply.

[jdobbs]

I found it. I'd left a STOP statement in for the work I'm doing on secondary audio/video tracks. It happens when the stream type is not one of the standard values. I'll fix it and repost. I just found another error doing "300" that I need to fix also.

[jdobbs]

I can't reproduce this with the pesky ini or deleting the ini and letting it make it's own. Does C:\ exist on your computer?

I really wish the ini wasn't included in the pack as it doesn't really do anything except sets idle priority which could just as well be done on first load if no ini.

I've already requested this as well as 2 fairly big but easy to fix bugs and I've offered solutions but it's getting awfully frustrating when the developer doesn't reply.Of course the developer could also just turn this whole project off because he also has to make a living. You know what is frustrating? Trying to build something for the convenience of others -- with virtually nothing in return -- and still having to take criticism from those you are helping because you're not moving fast enough.

[Capsbackup]

Of course the developer could also just turn this whole project off because he also has to make a living.

Free pie is hard to complain about.
I HEAR you loud and clear!! I agree completely. But I hope you consider the majority then the few when it comes to appreciation. Beta software, lets not forget.
Thanks again for your generosity and time you spend developing this software. :thanks:

[turbojet]

Back in February you said you'd look into the 720 sup problem. Now since there is a solution you seem to be ignoring me completely on the matter but keep on pumping out versions fixing bugs from other people in this thread even if it only affects 1 BD. These 3 issues I talk about affect every BD depending on the options. I understand being busy but the least you could say is 'I'll look into it' or 'I don't plan on fixing the problem'. Hopefully you are thinking the former but I'm under the assumption it's the latter as I don't get any replies about it after 3 months.

A few weeks ago I posted about --bluray changing and to not use it with new tsmuxer, I was obviously ignored and now you are facing more bug reports. But now that it's being used I'm giving you ways to fix it, already been ignored once on this, let's see if it happens again.

Also a few weeks ago I posted that disabled streams weren't being removed from mpls and I included a fixed version but also got not one reply about it.

I'm here to help the program but is it any use when the other side seems to ignore the help?

[jdobbs]

I do what I can do with the time I have. You can't make the assumption that I've read every post you have put here. I was away for several weeks and there's no way I can catch up.

If that isn't a good enough answer... then screw it.

A few weeks ago I posted about --bluray changing and to not use it with new tsmuxer...Is this still an issue with v1.10.1?

...disabled streams weren't being removed from mpls... They never were meant to be -- doing so causes more issues than it corrects. Instead they should still exist, but point to a PID that is kept.

...you'd look into the 720 sup problem... It isn't really a "problem" -- the subs show large on the screen because the picture resolution was reduced. As I said before, I'll look at it. But I think it is more important to fix the problems that cause discs not to work before attacking the cosmetic problems.

[turbojet]

Since I have your attentino now. For all 3 can you answer if you plan on fixing it, don't plan on fixing ir or don't understand the issue?

[archaeo]

Of course the developer could also just turn this whole project off because he also has to make a living. You know what is frustrating? Trying to build something for the convenience of others -- with virtually nothing in return -- and still having to take criticism from those you are helping.

Just my two cents - I do have to say that the tone here seems more demanding (and critical) than what I'd seen during the years of development of DVDRB... I've followed the development of jdobbs Rebuilder proggies since somewhere around v.50, and it's been kind of an eye opener at times to hear the tone in this thread. Really, sometimes one has to step back and realize three things: 1) It's a beta 2) he's doing it on his own time, and 3) there's a difference between constructive feedback and criticism

[MILLZY]

Back in February you said you'd look into the 720 sup problem. Now since there is a solution you seem to be ignoring me completely on the matter but keep on pumping out versions fixing bugs from other people in this thread even if it only affects 1 BD. These 3 issues I talk about affect every BD depending on the options. I understand being busy but the least you could say is 'I'll look into it' or 'I don't plan on fixing the problem'. Hopefully you are thinking the former but I'm under the assumption it's the latter as I don't get any replies about it after 3 months.

A few weeks ago I posted about --bluray changing and to not use it with new tsmuxer, I was obviously ignored and now you are facing more bug reports. But now that it's being used I'm giving you ways to fix it, already been ignored once on this, let's see if it happens again.

Also a few weeks ago I posted that disabled streams weren't being removed from mpls and I included a fixed version but also got not one reply about it.

I'm here to help the program but is it any use when the other side seems to ignore the help?

There are plenty of posts that jdobbs does not reply too.How about giving the guy a break and letting him get on with it instead of bitching about all the comments that he has not answered.He does have a life at the end of the day away from this.

[turbojet]

I must be really unlucky then because as he's been replying to almost everyone else's legitimate bug reports. He hasn't replied to any of mine since February except for when I said that it might take 3 lines of code to use an external program that requires 1 command line. Even then he didn't reply about the real issue, 720p subs, but instead said he hasn't seen anything that would only require 3 lines of code.

I'll give him a break by not posting any bug reports until he acknowledges the current ones.

[laserfan]

Of course the developer could also just turn this whole project off because he also has to make a living.I for one would not blame you one iota if you did this--heck I might even *admire* you for it! It appears to me that BD backups are sufficiently complex, what with the myriad of codecs supported, and extras, and pop-ups, and PIPs, and... well lets just say it's at least an order-of-magnitude more complex than DVD, and unlikely to be anything but a huge support issue well into the future. Gosh it took a few years to get DVD Rebuilder "perfect" (and it is), but you gotta wonder about BR discs given what an ugly mess they are.

If it were me I'd have likely given-up (a public release that is, vs. for my own personal amusement) long ago! :eek:

[MILLZY]

I have just tried a previous backup again that failed at the rebuild process on all beta releases aswell as v0.20.08.I presume it is just one that will not backup, here`s the log:

[10:13:45] BD Rebuilder v0.20.08 (beta)
- Source: BEDTIME STORIES
- Input BD size: 30.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:21:51.461]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[10:13:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:13:46] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00044]
- [10:13:47] Reencoding: VID_00044 (1 of 16)
- [10:14:04] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00047]
- [10:14:05] Reencoding: VID_00047 (2 of 16)
- [10:14:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00042]
- [10:14:22] Reencoding: VID_00042 (3 of 16)
- [10:15:22] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [10:15:22] Reencoding: VID_00003 (4 of 16)
- [10:16:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00040]
- [10:17:05] Reencoding: VID_00040 (5 of 16)
- [10:19:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [10:19:29] Reencoding: VID_00002 (6 of 16)
- [10:21:49] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00016]
- [10:21:58] Reencoding: VID_00016 (7 of 16)
- [10:23:38] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00043]
- [10:23:48] Reencoding: VID_00043 (8 of 16)
- [10:26:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00045]
- [10:26:13] Reencoding: VID_00045 (9 of 16)
- [10:29:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00041]
- [10:29:15] Reencoding: VID_00041 (10 of 16)
- [10:32:53] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [10:33:16] Reencoding: VID_00006 (11 of 16)
- [10:40:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [10:41:24] Reencoding: VID_00009 (12 of 16)
- [10:47:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00008]
- [10:48:19] Reencoding: VID_00008 (13 of 16)
- [10:58:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [10:58:58] Reencoding: VID_00010 (14 of 16)
- [11:11:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00011]
- [11:12:29] Reencoding: VID_00011 (15 of 16)
- [11:29:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [11:45:32] Reencoding: VID_00000 (16 of 16)
[15:38:07]PHASE ONE complete
[15:38:07]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:38:07] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [15:38:31] RebuildBDFiles() 00076 220

Did this backup at fast encode just to try.

[pbeumer2001]

I just wanna say that I`m verry pleased with this prog. Made severel backups without any problem.


So JDobbs Thanx for this Prog!!!!

[turbojet]

I do what I can do with the time I have. You can't make the assumption that I've read every post you have put here. I was away for several weeks and there's no way I can catch up.

If that isn't a good enough answer... then screw it.

Is this still an issue with v1.10.1?

Thanks for answering, yes --bluray is really only there now for VC-1 on Panasonic BD35 but it hasn't been reported if it works or not. It should theoretically work well if burning on BDR but it's not well tested.

What I wrote earlier about --avchd w/stricter AVCHD option removing BBMV/AUXDATA and w/0 stricter AVCHD you probably could leave output alone but older versions had BDMV/BDJO and BDMV/META files is how it used to be and I believe what's to be intended.

They never were meant to be -- doing so causes more issues than it corrects. Instead they should still exist, but point to a PID that is kept.

Is the issue with disabling stream 1 while keeping stream 2?

It isn't really a "problem" -- the subs show large on the screen because the picture resolution was reduced. As I said before, I'll look at it. But I think it is more important to fix the problems that cause discs not to work before attacking the cosmetic problems.

While the larger size isn't pleasant the bigger problem is it misaligns some subs and these often fall off the screen.

[jdobbs]

1. Yes BD25 default set - not changed.

2. MIN_M2TS_SIZE=4000
I found the bug that caused the issue you reported in "300". It was caused by the fact that 00004.M2TS was larger than 2GB and my routine had a bug. It only shows when MIN_M2TS_SIZE is set larger than 2GB and there are files larger than that being copied. I'm fixing it.

[Furiousflea]

You're talking about the program files, right? Such as creating a new folder like... C:\BD_R-2008 instead of overwriting existing program files in a C:\BD_Rebuilder folder.

It would make sense that a new release of BD-Rebuilder would come without an .ini file and the old one from the previous version would cause a problem. I always create a new folder for each release, so I haven't seen the problem you mentioned.
I'm glad you got it sorted, but your "0.20.08 is screwed" comment made me a bit gunshy to even check out the new release. You might want to edit those posts for a bit less panicky initial response to the new release. :)

You got it the wrong way round. Of course I completely agree with you...Can't stand stupid people just overwriting stuff and expecting it to work. That is not what I'm doing...The problem arises when you DO create a new folder from scratch and load a bluray folder without changing ANY options.

Give it a go and see...

No other version does it...Well, not the last few lol. I think it's because no ini is created until some options are set. The ini is needed to load the bluray folder for it's paremeters...

something like that ;) prolly :)

I editied my post already to tell people to read the bit giving more info, but I do think it was warranted. It is screwed if you were a noob and didn't know to change the options first etc...well not screwed...but a bug for sure.

[Furiousflea]

lol at the hissy fits the last couple of pages...

The problem here is that BDRB is in a very early stage where there are lots of problems with each release, of course. However there are technically minded people who just say it how it is (turbojet). Then there are the parasites who are just here for a free lunch, don't contribute any meaningful bug reports but are "ever so greatful to the god that is jdobbs". It's you guys who need to sort your act out and provide proper bug reports etc and not the usual crap that 9\10 people post. turbojet and tekmobile are basically the only 2 people here that give decent bug reports etc.

Also yeah sure it was much more chilled with DVDRB, but that was very simple, very few bugs except for complex discs and advanced features. Personally, I've spent a lot of time testing discs out to HELP, not just do all my backups then sod off like the rest of you crawlers do. So yeah sure, you people who worship jdobbs have you provided 1 decent bug report...

I rest my case and you should zip it and try understand that constructive critisism in intellectual circles is A-OK. Go flush your ego down the toilet because it's not needed.

jdobbs cheers for lukin into the issue with 300, look forward to having a good backup.

[Furiousflea]

I found the bug that caused the issue you reported in "300". It was caused by the fact that 00004.M2TS was larger than 2GB and my routine had a bug. It only shows when MIN_M2TS_SIZE is set larger than 2GB and there are files larger than that being copied. I'm fixing it.

Cheers :)

[MILLZY]

lol at the hissy fits the last couple of pages...

The problem here is that BDRB is in a very early stage where there are lots of problems with each release, of course. However there are technically minded people who just say it how it is (turbojet). Then there are the parasites who are just here for a free lunch, don't contribute any meaningful bug reports but are "ever so greatful to the god that is jdobbs". It's you guys who need to sort your act out and provide proper bug reports etc and not the usual crap that 9\10 people post. turbojet and tekmobile are basically the only 2 people here that give decent bug reports etc.

Also yeah sure it was much more chilled with DVDRB, but that was very simple, very few bugs except for complex discs and advanced features. Personally, I've spent a lot of time testing discs out to HELP, not just do all my backups then sod off like the rest of you crawlers do. So yeah sure, you people who worship jdobbs have you provided 1 decent bug report...

I rest my case and you should zip it and try understand that constructive critisism in intellectual circles is A-OK. Go flush your ego down the toilet because it's not needed.

jdobbs cheers for lukin into the issue with 300, look forward to having a good backup.

We have got a little chip on our shoulder havent we,Talk about blowing your own trumpet!As you say this is about bug reports and yes most of us are not technically minded but we are still trying to help out.I myself have spent many hours testing many a disc to try a help out.At the end of the day this is a forum were people technically minded or not try to help out.

[archaeo]

lol at the hissy fits the last couple of pages...

The problem here is that BDRB is in a very early stage where there are lots of problems with each release, of course. However there are technically minded people who just say it how it is (turbojet). Then there are the parasites who are just here for a free lunch, don't contribute any meaningful bug reports but are "ever so greatful to the god that is jdobbs". It's you guys who need to sort your act out and provide proper bug reports etc and not the usual crap that 9\10 people post. turbojet and tekmobile are basically the only 2 people here that give decent bug reports etc.

Also yeah sure it was much more chilled with DVDRB, but that was very simple, very few bugs except for complex discs and advanced features. Personally, I've spent a lot of time testing discs out to HELP, not just do all my backups then sod off like the rest of you crawlers do. So yeah sure, you people who worship jdobbs have you provided 1 decent bug report...

I rest my case and you should zip it and try understand that constructive critisism in intellectual circles is A-OK. Go flush your ego down the toilet because it's not needed.

jdobbs cheers for lukin into the issue with 300, look forward to having a good backup.

Hmmm... So how constructive is this comment 'intellectually'?

rule #4

Edit: Furiousflea: I do want to say that you have been a help to myself and others on this forum, and there's no doubt you have contributed to the development of BDRB... But c'mon - sometimes you really cross the line into outright insults to others.

[MikeyBK]

Whoa guys... you need to relax A Bit... :cool:

It's one thing to report bugs to try and help 'the developer' of a Beta software, but completely a different thing when you come accross as if you can produce a better software.... which I know you can't. So come on guys, RELAX!!

Just because most of the users of BD-Rebuilder are appreciative towards JDobbs, that doesn't constitute that they'll be building him a shrine-temple anytime soon!! LOL... What's wrong with being thankful towards him for his time and efforts?

I for one, have had success after success in the last 50 some Blurays using BD-RB... so either I'm the luckiest bastard on the planet or you aren't as super-tech as you claim to be...because you seem to have a shietload of problems using BD-RB when many barely have some of the issues you mention??


Just because I don't test every Bluray in 9 different BD-Rebuilder configurations per disc nowadays makes me supposedly here for a 'free lunch'?? or don't contribute anything? I've reported any bugs that I encountered previously, but just haven't run into any since, can't remember when...

put your money where your mouth is furiousflea..and contribute some more $$ to JD, I have.... as has many others already. And if you haven't contributed anything, contribute whatever you can... let's help the brother out...

[drmih]

I found the bug that caused the issue you reported in "300". It was caused by the fact that 00004.M2TS was larger than 2GB and my routine had a bug. It only shows when MIN_M2TS_SIZE is set larger than 2GB and there are files larger than that being copied. I'm fixing it.

This is also the issue with The Mummy 3 so I'll retry that when you've updated it.
Thanks

[drmih]

I think most of the 'attitude' issues are caused by the size of this thread. It really needs closing and a new one starting with the discs which can't currently be done updated at the top with the problems catagorised and work arounds shown where known. This would prevent repetitive posts and also give jdobbs a way of bracketing typical problems (such as extras which x264 can't handle, pip issues).

[MikeyBK]

I think most of the 'attitude' issues are caused by the size of this thread. It really needs closing and a new one starting with the discs which can't currently be done updated at the top with the problems catagorised and work arounds shown where known. This would prevent repetitive posts and also give jdobbs a way of bracketing typical problems (such as extras which x264 can't handle, pip issues).


Very decent suggestion Bro...

[turbojet]

I think most of the 'attitude' issues are caused by the size of this thread. It really needs closing and a new one starting with the discs which can't currently be done updated at the top with the problems catagorised and work arounds shown where known. This would prevent repetitive posts and also give jdobbs a way of bracketing typical problems (such as extras which x264 can't handle, pip issues).

I agree the lenght of this thread is a problem. I have suggested having a known bug list in the original post a few times so they don't keep getting reported. I've also posted a workaround for VC-1 interlaced decoding issues which so far has been the only type of stream that's confirmed to have decoding problems and this is not a BD-RB issue but basic lack of a decent VC-1 decoder. If both of these were in the original post the thread would probably be less than half of what it is and the same thing wouldn't have to be repeated a bunch of times. In turn maybe my posts would have gotten recognized like they were the first 3 months of the program and not posted around like they have been the past 3 months.

My criticism finally got what I had been looking for the past 3 months, a reply to my legitimate bug reports. I think jdobbs will survive just fine and personally I don't see how someone mentioning they are frustrated because they are getting ignored could be taken as offensive but to each his own. All I can hope is that he pays attention to real bug reports like he used to and that I or someone else doesn't get frustrated enough to mention it again. I think 3 months of reporting the bug about every 2 weeks is more patience then most would have.

[Shuttle99]

Did the txmuxer problem get fixed where it was not writing the correct avchd format to play on panasonic players?

[datman]

I'm guessing I had a problem ripping the movie, because I was also unable to run tsmuxer from either rip or iso-rip. I just ran tsmuxer off the disc and it worked fine. Tonight I will try encoding it again:thanks:

yes I sucessfully encoded using the tsmuxer copy:)

[GaPony]

Given the tone of the past few pages... Yea, I'd start a new bug thread. I'd probably require a properly composed, pre-formatted, on-line form and if it didn't meet the strict standards, reject it.... but that's just me. jdobbs is working to provide the world with the first (so far as I know) real comprehensive Blu-Ray backup program, already supports a DVD copying program, and has to travel extensively as part of the job that actually feeds his family.

Give it a rest! If you have a bug, report it. Nobody needs to hear how the bug is wasting your time or upsetting you.

If you have another issue, or question, you can easily post it someplace else on here. There are other bright people who can, and I'm sure will be glad to help for most other non-bug things.... like TXMuxer problems, x264 issues, etc. Fewer posts in this section might give jdobbs time to read the important ones. I totally understand why he'd like to have all the bug reports in one thread.

Just a suggestion.

[turbojet]

Did the txmuxer problem get fixed where it was not writing the correct avchd format to play on panasonic players?

Broken in 0.20.07.
Works with 0.20.06 and before.
In 0.20.08 you need to enable strict avchd option but it breaks playback in Samsung players (AUXDATA exists).

Hopefully next version it will be fixed so without the strict avchd option enabled it will play on all but Samsung players and enable strict avchd will allow Samsung to play the output again.

[GaPony]

Broken in 0.20.07.
Works with 0.20.06 and before.
In 0.20.08 you need to enable strict avchd option but it breaks playback in Samsung players (AUXDATA exists).

Hopefully next version it will be fixed so without the strict avchd option enabled it will play on all but Samsung players and enable strict avchd will allow Samsung to play the output again.

So just remove the AUXDATA folder before burning, as we did several versions back, and all is ok again?

[Shuttle99]

Broken in 0.20.07.
Works with 0.20.06 and before.
In 0.20.08 you need to enable strict avchd option but it breaks playback in Samsung players (AUXDATA exists).

Hopefully next version it will be fixed so without the strict avchd option enabled it will play on all but Samsung players and enable strict avchd will allow Samsung to play the output again.

Great, thanks for the update I will try it.

[turbojet]

So just remove the AUXDATA folder before burning, as we did several versions back, and all is ok again?

Yes, with v0.20.08 movie only w/strict avchd and full backup modes with Samsung players. Unfortunately Denon and Phillips players need the AUXDATA directory to play. On all other players tested so far the AUXDATA directory has no meaning. This post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339) has playable and unplayable results.

[jdobbs]

It would sure be nice if there was some standardization between players... there are more exceptions than there are rules.

[MikeyBK]

Well I double checked the Movie-Only BD9s that I created with 0.20.07 & 0.20.08 and they won't autoplay on PS3s... they play pefectly fine on my Sony BDP-BX1 player though.

It appears that the newer TSMuxers output an m12ts file that is 0000.m2ts, whereas it had always been 0001.m2ts prior.... not sure if this is why PS3s no longer can autoplay these BD9s any longer. All those I did with BD-RB 0.20.05 work pefectly on my Sony and my kids' PS3s.

I'm not quite certain if this was mentioned the way I have, earlier in this thread... I do rmember someone mentioning that it didn't autoplay on their PS3, but not sure if they mentioned what the differencces were from prior TSMuxers in BD-RB 0.20.05 & before.

[turbojet]

It would sure be nice if there was some standardization between players... there are more exceptions than there are rules.

deank may have found a one for all solution with multiAVCHD's AVCHD output but it needs confirmation to work on Phillips, Denons and any other unknown player that needs BDMV/AUXDATA directory.

Well I double checked the Movie-Only BD9s that I created with 0.20.07 & 0.20.08 and they won't autoplay on PS3s... they play pefectly fine on my Sony BDP-BX1 player though.

It appears that the newer TSMuxers output an m12ts file that is 0000.m2ts, whereas it had always been 0001.m2ts prior.... not sure if this is why PS3s no longer can autoplay these BD9s any longer. All those I did with BD-RB 0.20.05 work pefectly on my Sony and my kids' PS3s.

I'm not quite certain if this was mentioned the way I have, earlier in this thread... I do rmember someone mentioning that it didn't autoplay on their PS3, but not sure if they mentioned what the differencces were from prior TSMuxers in BD-RB 0.20.05 & before.

From what I learned from deank's posts the issue involves index.bdmv.
With --bluray it produces V0200 without IDEX which is what all retail BD's use.
With --avchd it produces V0100 with IDEX which is what AVCHD software produce however it goes beyond that but I don't know what that is, deank knows though.

Thanks for the BX1 report, I added NEWBD as playable in the table.

[Jake802]

Hello! I got The Spirit to work with the newest version of BDRebuilder(V 0.20.08).Also checked the stream files and they played with sound. I did full backup BD25.I am setting up to burn now.The BD-RE I am using is only 2x though.Once it is finished Ill let you guys know if it plays correctly on PS3 and my LG Player! Thanks Again JDobbs! I get paid next and I am going to attempt to send you a donation then.I apologize for it not being done sooner,money has been tight lately!

[tekmobile]

Im having problems with Tenacious D: The Complete Masterworks Vol 2

I've done this disc many times in both movie only and full disc with every BD-RB version since 0.20.05 to the latest and always have the same problem.

It works perfect through total media theatre but for some reason it always locks up my SONY BDP-S350 in the exact same place at the start of the concert ive tried different versions of TsMuxer and different versions of x264 with no change.

The original disc plays fine on the BDP-S350

[Tongariro]

I have "The Spirit" (bought it today) but haven't tried it yet. I'll do it after "300" finishes. Can you try reencoding the DTS HD to AC3 and see how it works?

jdobbs

I did as you requested, the spirit that convert DTS to Ac3 and as expected the output works perfect.
I did some testing using the latest tsMuxer:

Muxed to m2ts the h264 with sub and with DTS Master- not working (freezez)

Muxed to m2ts the h264 with sub and the AC3 from the workfile - working perfect

So it seems the problem is the DTS Master.
The file.dts by it self works O.K on my pc(using powerDvd).

Any idea what is going on??

[cyberdoggy]

Did a Movie-only backup with v0.20.08 with Stricter AVCHD and I am glad to say it went perfect for my Panasonic standalone, played perfectly. Good job Jdobbs ;) That seems to have fixed the problem with the newer tsmuxer.exe.

[Furiousflea]

I'm getting that "Stop Statement" dialogue box then BDRB automatically closing when I click "OK" on the dialogue box when i set min m2ts to =0 with...

Kung Fu Panda - UK\EU version.
Royal Space Force - The Wings of Honneamise - Jap import.

...Setting it to =10 and I don't get it...defo something wrong there...

[Chefkoch_ico]

@jdobbs:
beside your Sony Player, do you have PowerDVD available for testing?

Full Backups of most european Universal titles (for example The mummy 3, Bourne Triology), dont work with PowerDVD and some Panasonic Players.

The menu starts fine, but pressing "Play Movie" menu item results in black screen ( I waited more than 1 hour ).

For other players, its OK. Anyway, I assume other players will have this problem too.

Bye

[setarip_old]

@Chefkoch_ico

Hi!do you have PowerDVD available for testing?That's too general a question, as there are a multitude of versions of PowerDVD.

I have found that my intentionally NOT updated version of Power DVD v.7.3 successfully plays all BD-RB conversions...

[turbojet]

When using quick extras --stats parameter is unnecessary.

Also not deinterlacing may allow playback in more players because most menus are 30i and 30p isn't BD standard at the least they will look better at around the same size/effeciency but must use --tff and --bff in x264.

[Furiousflea]

When using quick extras --stats parameter is unnecessary.

Also not deinterlacing may allow playback in more players because most menus are 30i and 30p isn't BD standard at the least they will look better at around the same size/effeciency but must use --tff and --bff in x264.

So all the 29.97fps Progressive video BDRB gives from 60i sources isn't compatible BD technically?

I really don't know why BDRB insists on converting my silky smooth 60i extras -> jeryky badly deinterlaced (when they weren't even supposed to be de-interlaced but simply the fields blended with 60fps..) stuttery messes...

Is x264 not capable of encoding proper compliant genuine interlaced video from an interlaced source? Keeping the 60 fields per second...?

? :)

(I never will understand why so many people can't tell the difference between "live action" video and film)...

Hope I'm not being rude, but this has been troubling me for a while. I know encoding as interlaced 60fps isn't as efficient as de-interlacing it down to 30fps...But when you lose the original "making of" feel to a "making of...insert movie hear" due to the "live action" video now looking like film....whats the point?

[turbojet]

So all the 29.97fps Progressive video BDRB gives from 60i sources isn't compatible BD technically?


I don't have the standards but what's going around is 30p is nowhere in the standards.


I really don't know why BDRB insists on converting my silky smooth 60i extras -> jeryky badly deinterlaced (when they weren't even supposed to be de-interlaced but simply the fields blended with 60fps..) stuttery messes...

Is x264 not capable of encoding proper compliant genuine interlaced video from an interlaced source? Keeping the 60 fields per second...?

? :)

x264 can encode interlaced but it doesn't seem to give nearly enough bitrate to scenes in crf mode compared to 24p. It still looks better at a smaller size at 60i then it does at 30p to my eyes.

(I never will understand why so many people can't tell the difference between "live action" video and film)...

Hope I'm not being rude, but this has been troubling me for a while. I know encoding as interlaced 60fps isn't as efficient as de-interlacing it down to 30fps...But when you lose the original "making of" feel to a "making of...insert movie hear" due to the "live action" video now looking like film....whats the point?

Well some extras are still soft telecined unfortunately and they really should be ivtc'd as opposed to kept interlaced.

[laserfan]

Is x264 not capable of encoding proper compliant genuine interlaced video from an interlaced source? Keeping the 60 fields per second...?Look at x264 --longhelp and you'll find --tff and -bff options for producing interlaced .264 output.

Not with BD-RB, but I have done both i.e. deinterlaced then re-encoded progressive, and left interlaced when re-encoding. The latter IIRC was owing to the original being a mix of video & film and I didn't want to bother with trying to sort it all out for progressive.

[turbojet]

Look at x264 --longhelp and you'll find --tff and -bff options for producing interlaced .264 output.

Not with BD-RB, but I have done both i.e. deinterlaced then re-encoded progressive, and left interlaced when re-encoding. The latter IIRC was owing to the original being a mix of video & film and I didn't want to bother with trying to sort it all out for progressive.

And with hybrid source the ability to use interlacing with DVD/BD is your best friend.

From my experiences almost every interlaced extra I've seen on a BD is really interlaced or hybrid.

Actually x264 is pretty good at encoding interlaced at decent settings and higher settings. Now we just need to be able to crf extras with some decent settings. Possible to change non quick extras to use --crf instead of 2 pass?

Although we should be able to choose things that aren't extras too.

[hoagie666]

Dont know exactly how to report a bug, but when loading Black Hawk Down into BDRebuilder v0.20.08 I get the following error..

Stop Statement Encountered

But when I open it in v0.20.07 it works with no problems, have tried to tell it to backup yet.

Thanx hope this helps

[Chiamos]

@Chefkoch_ico

Hi!That's too general a question, as there are a multitude of versions of PowerDVD.

I have found that my intentionally NOT updated version of Power DVD v.7.3 successfully plays all BD-RB conversions...

Same great playback here with that version of PowerDVD.:)

[G_M_C]

It would sure be nice if there was some standardization between players... there are more exceptions than there are rules.

Nah, my guess it that the real problem stems from the fact that the required documentation is really closed source (like it is some national secret). If the required documentation was more open, then we would be able to develop muxers that can make BD's that are fully compliant with the standards. And as per definition, BD's that are fully compliant with the standard should work in any player, no matter what brand, wouldn't they ?

[DaMacFunkin]

@jdobbs:
beside your Sony Player, do you have PowerDVD available for testing?

Full Backups of most european Universal titles (for example The mummy 3, Bourne Triology), dont work with PowerDVD and some Panasonic Players.

The menu starts fine, but pressing "Play Movie" menu item results in black screen ( I waited more than 1 hour ).

For other players, its OK. Anyway, I assume other players will have this problem too.

Bye
I'm with you on this problem m8, maybe it is the PiP problem for these titles, and maybe when he sorts that problem these will automatically be fixed...? It's got to be a concern for him because there are an increasing number of titles not working in full back up mode, so to bring his fruits to bear so to speak he will have to sort it out eventually, heres hoping it is soon. :thanks:

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs...

Have you given this

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138417

Anymore thought as a perfect solution to tracks with LPCM audio to be backed up correctly maintaing the HD LPCM audio. I understand the only problem prohibiting backup of LPCM is due to tsmuxer not accepting it's own LPCM demuxed output as it will only take a .wav file with proper headers...

This utility should fit the bill and solve the problem.

[datman]

jdobbs...

Have you given this

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138417

Anymore thought as a perfect solution to tracks with LPCM audio to be backed up correctly maintaing the HD LPCM audio. I understand the only problem prohibiting backup of LPCM is due to tsmuxer not accepting it's own LPCM demuxed output as it will only take a .wav file with proper headers...

This utility should fit the bill and solve the problem.

is this the reason why my last 2 encodes the HD audio was converted to 448?

I tried Passion of Christ and Apocalypto and no matter what I did the audio is converted to 448.

[Furiousflea]

is this the reason why my last 2 encodes the HD audio was converted to 448?

I tried Passion of Christ and Apocalypto and no matter what I did the audio is converted to 448.

If it's LPCM, yes.

[massiah]

OK...
I have used BD-RB since version 17. I have not had any problems with it except for the LPCM issue not converting.

I have ran the program perfectly up to and including 20.05.
I tried to encode NOTORIOUS and BABYLON AD and they both freeze my PC at the 11% mark in overall progress.

I have restarted my PC and tried to restart the encode from the resume and from a fresh starting point. SAME RESULT.
This was about a week to a week and half ago.

I have not installed any programs except for FlashFXP and AnyDVD updates in that time period.
I do not run any other programs in the background.
I have all the encoding applications(AviSynth, Matroska,tsMuxer,ffdShow ) up to date.
I have also tried to uninstall everything, used CCcleaner to clean my registry of any dangling files and restarted my PC.
I even re-downloaded and reinstalled everything(with the correct settings)including version 20.05 and 20.08 at separate times to see if this works and I still get the same result.
I also restarted my PC after those re-installations.

RipBot 264 doesn't even work.


I am stuck and I do not have anything to reencode my BluRays completely. I am a little ticked because it worked on every disc I had so far except AMERICAN GANGSTER and WAR(LPCM issue).

I am running my PC with these specs:
Q9650(No OC)
Vista 64
8GB RAM
Multiple Hard Drives:
1 for the program to run
1 for the program to build the encode
1 for the source

I would greatly appreciate help from anyone at this point and I posted just in case it happens to anyone else.

I have attached my Programs list to see if there could be a conflict which anyone knows of... thanks, guys.
Thanks Jdobbs for the great program.


--------------------------------------------------

UPDATE:
I tried changing the settings in ffdshow for VC-1 to wmv9 and it seemed to make the encode I was doing go past the 11% mark.

It froze my PC up again at about the 25-26% mark...I restarted and resumed and then it froze again at about the 28% and 45% marks.

No errors listed in the log to speak of.
I changed the VC-1 setting to disabled and restarted the encode from the beginning and still no go . It froze up at about the 6% mark again.

Seems like no one has any ideas...so I may not have helped myself but, I hope I helped someone else if it happens to them.

Thanks, again for what I am sure will become a great program once jdobbs has the time to commit to it.

[datman]

If it's LPCM, yes.

Apocalypto is LPCM but Passion of Christ is DTS-HD XLL. Dose this audio format work?

[Furiousflea]

Apocalypto is LPCM but Passion of Christ is DTS-HD XLL. Dose this audio format work?

DTS-HD XLL is just the proper technical name for DTS-HD Master Audio :p

[datman]

DTS-HD XLL is just the proper technical name for DTS-HD Master Audio :p

so should BDRB be able to encode this disc? I know other disc have worked fine;)

[Furiousflea]

so should BDRB be able to encode this disc? I know other disc have worked fine;)

YES!!!!!!

There hasn't been a problem with DTSHD\MA for a while.

[datman]

The "strickter AVCHD" option, quite some time ago when this was added after doing a few with it. I found none of them would play after converting to ISO to play from HDD with PDVD-8. Well 20.08 still won't play. Is thar normal or am I not doing something right?

[Jake802]

I FINALLY got to check out The Spirit backup happy to say no Issues what so ever!

[turbojet]

The "strickter AVCHD" option, quite some time ago when this was added after doing a few with it. I found none of them would play after converting to ISO to play from HDD with PDVD-8. Well 20.08 still won't play. Is thar normal or am I not doing something right?

Since 0.28.06 you cannot produce anything that plays in PowerDVD and BD players.

Prior to 0.28.06 if you leave strict AVCHD unchecked it will play in PowerDVD and all but 2 (maybe even 1) BD players but that will probably be 0 soon since samsung already fixed 2 of 4 in the past 2 weeks. Strict AVCHD with these earlier versions will produce files that won't play in PowerDVD and 4 BD players.

[Discoboy]

Since 0.28.06 you cannot produce anything that plays in PowerDVD and BD players.

Prior to 0.28.06 if you leave strict AVCHD unchecked it will play in PowerDVD and all but 2 (maybe even 1) BD players but that will probably be 0 soon since samsung already fixed 2 of 4 in the past 2 weeks. Strict AVCHD with these earlier versions will produce files that won't play in PowerDVD and 4 BD players.

@ turbojet and @ dataman,

I did some deep testing today and found that the latest PowerDVD’s players very strictly comply with AVCHD format!

Tests made with both BD_RB with TsMuxer 1.10.1 and TsMuxer 1.10.3 standalone using stricter AVCHD mode

If you burn the AVCHD ouput files to a DVD and play on PowerDVD, ALL versions of PowerDVD will play no problem and also on a SAP Panasonic BD35

If you make an ISO image of the AVCHD ouput files and mount on a virtual drive on the PC then play on PowerDVD only version 7.3.3119 or below will play it. Versions upto 9.0.1531 will NOT play it.

So it seems the latest versions of PowerDVD will only play AVCHD via DVD media

If add the following empty folders to your AVCHD output files:
BDMV: add “BDJO” + “JAR” + “META”
BDMV\BACKUP: add “BDJO”
Then make an ISO image of the AVCHD output files and mount on a virtual drive on the PC and then play on PowerDVD, ALL versions will play it

So I believe the problem is not with BD_RB or TsMuxer but that PowerDVD very strictly complying with AVCHD format.

To prove this point a DTS 1.5Mbps sound stream is not officially supported in the AVCHD format and if used on a AVCHD burned DVD, PowerDVD’s after version 7.3.3119 will NOT play the DTS sound. If you instead make a ISO image + the missing folders with DTS sound ALL versions of PowerDVD will play the sound

@ dataman

To get your ISO image to play on PowerDVD either:
- Use version 7.3.3119
- Add the above additional folders
- Burn the image to a DVD then play on PowerDVD

Regards
Discoboy

[turbojet]

Ya discoboy I reported all the software player caveats along with most BD players here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339)

I've never heard of Panasonic BD35 having problems with all empty folders except it will with tsmuxer's new bluray output.
Is this movie only backup?
If so are you sure you aren't using v0.28.07 or v0.28.08 without strict AVCHD enabled?

[Discoboy]

Hi turbojet,

I know about your linked thread and have been following it for some time ;-)

I just wanted you to know that if using Strict AVCHD in BD_RB (AKA TsMuxer AVCHD mode) ALL PowerDVD versions will play an AVCHD disk if burnt to a DVD media but NOT if via an ISO image mounted on the PC and then played on PowerDVD above version 7.3.3119

I think you misunderstood what I said about the BD35 not playing. With strict AVCHD enabled (AKA Tsmuxer AVCHD mode) and the files missing, the BD35 plays with NO problems

Regards,
Discoboy

[turbojet]

Hi turbojet,

I know about your linked thread and have been following it for some time ;-)

I just wanted you to know that if using Strict AVCHD in BD_RB (AKA TsMuxer AVCHD mode) ALL PowerDVD versions will play a AVCHD disk if burnt to a DVD media but NOT if via an ISO image mounted on the PC and then played on PowerDVD above version 7.3.3119

Oh interesting find.

I think you misunderstood what I said about the BD35 not playing. It will only NOT play if you add the following files:
BDMV: add “BDJO” + “JAR” + “META”
BDMV\BACKUP: add “BDJO”
With strict AVCHD enabled (AKA Tsmuxer AVCHD mode) and the files missing BD35 plays with NO problems

Regards,
Discoboy

Theoretically this should be OLDBD and has been reported to work many times, I've also tested it. Was there some recent firmware that changed this?

[Discoboy]

Oh interesting find.



Theoretically this should be OLDBD and has been reported to work many times, I've also tested it. Was there some recent firmware that changed this?

Just rechecked, my error and you are correct the BD35 does play all OK without the missing folders and also if the folders are manually added again. FW is the latest v1.4

[klas]

Arcsoft Totalmedia Theatre 3 plays everithing. All versions of BD.

[DaMacFunkin]

i have a problem with the latest version and The Day The Earth Stood Still (2009) the main movie file has re-encoded fine, but the next file which is 0.18mb will not re-encode.. so i eneterd the Min_M2TS entry to the ini to get rid of just that file from the list, but now it wants to start from the begining.. which i don't wanna do.
So a). i have a bug with this file..
b). is there anything i can do to get it to skip this file without starting again?

[pbeumer2001]

i have a problem with the latest version and The Day The Earth Stood Still (2009) the main movie file has re-encoded fine, but the next file which is 0.18mb will not re-encode.. so i eneterd the Min_M2TS entry to the ini to get rid of just that file from the list, but now it wants to start from the begining.. which i don't wanna do.
So a). i have a bug with this file..
b). is there anything i can do to get it to skip this file without starting again?


Ones you change the parameters BD Rebuilder sees it as a new job. Maybe you can replace the file with a other m2ts file (a small one because of the target output) set the parameters back ans see if rebuilder except it.

[turbojet]

jdobbs: with tsmuxer 1.10.4 and newer you should safely be able to use --avchd for movie only and do what you used to do with strict AVCHD, removing CERTIFICATE/AUXDATA/BDJO/JAR/META if any of these are missing with full backup they should be created. Plus subtitles are being resized automatically so your subtitle resize code can be disabled. Pcm2TSmu app would fix the issue with keeping LPCM

Sorry for bigger font, I just want him to notice and I don't mean this is as yelling.

[Furiousflea]

i have a problem with the latest version and The Day The Earth Stood Still (2009) the main movie file has re-encoded fine, but the next file which is 0.18mb will not re-encode.. so i eneterd the Min_M2TS entry to the ini to get rid of just that file from the list, but now it wants to start from the begining.. which i don't wanna do.
So a). i have a bug with this file..
b). is there anything i can do to get it to skip this file without starting again?

Sorry dude, tought luck.

Those tiny m2ts <0.5mb often have problems encoding and you will be left with an m2ts of 0kb in size and obviously your output bluray won't play in most cases.

To make sure you don't waste hours of time only to find you have one of them, make sure you do "quciker encode for extras". It should put the small files first...then just check your output folder for any 0kb m2ts\status window for errors.

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs...

Have you given this

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138417

Anymore thought as a perfect solution to tracks with LPCM audio to be backed up correctly maintaing the HD LPCM audio. I understand the only problem prohibiting backup of LPCM is due to tsmuxer not accepting it's own LPCM demuxed output as it will only take a .wav file with proper headers...

This utility should fit the bill and solve the problem.

turbojet, would you mind passing comment on this ^. I posted this exact message a few weeks ago but nobody seemed interested. Curious if it's a non starter or what?

[turbojet]

I put it in big font type but I have just as much problem getting him to see things as you do.

I was thinking of making another bug reports thread where the first post would be known bugs but I don't think it's really my responsibility to do so.

[MikeyBK]

Don't you think that JD has the prerogative to progress 'HIS' software (which he offers to all of us for FREE!) at a pace of HIS choosing?? I mean come on guys!!... He is doing this for us without any demands towards us.. whether monetary or work. The least that we can do is be thankful just for whatever he has given us to this point.:cool:

I can understand if you paid big bucks for his software, or at the very least, donated a 'HUGE' amount towards his work, considering the constant badgering you guys are doing....

I wouldn't blame him if he just got fed up altogether and shut this thing down.... let's just appreciate what he can get to for the time being....
He Does Have a Real Job in Real Life Guys!! Give it a rest already...PLEASE... before he shuts it down...

[turbojet]

I'm not writing in big letters for any other reason then for him to see an important post.

He's already said before that he didn't see my posts that would have prevented him from getting in this mess of players not playing the output it used to because of incorrect tsmuxer output which jdobbs did change.

I'm not pressuring him in any way to do it, I'm simply letting him know the correct way of doing it so he can get those bugs off his back.

One of the most important things of a solo project is good user feedback and that's what I'm giving him.

Once again when I said I was frustrated because he hasn't been seeing my important bug report posts over the past 3 months should not be taken as offensive but for some reason that's what some people are trying to see it as.

I dont know about jdobbs but personally I'd rather be able to look at one post for bug reports compared to the 2783 posts in this thread, most of which are discussion.

[MikeyBK]

Once again when I said I was frustrated because he hasn't been seeing my important bug report posts over the past 3 months should not be taken as offensive but for some reason that's what some people are trying to see it as.



Does his tone in the posts below sound promising to you??+
Of course the developer could also just turn this whole project off because he also has to make a living. You know what is frustrating? Trying to build something for the convenience of others -- with virtually nothing in return -- and still having to take criticism from those you are helping because you're not moving fast enough.

I do what I can do with the time I have. You can't make the assumption that I've read every post you have put here. I was away for several weeks and there's no way I can catch up.

If that isn't a good enough answer... then screw it.

Is this still an issue with v1.10.1?

They never were meant to be -- doing so causes more issues than it corrects. Instead they should still exist, but point to a PID that is kept.

It isn't really a "problem" -- the subs show large on the screen because the picture resolution was reduced. As I said before, I'll look at it. But I think it is more important to fix the problems that cause discs not to work before attacking the cosmetic problems.

[turbojet]

Does his tone in the posts below sound promising to you??+

Since then he has replied to me, asked me a question about tsmuxer and released a new version.

Take it however you want.

I have helped him in the past with BD-RB and would like to continue helping him develop the software and all I ask for is to be heard.

If I were in jdobbs shoes I wouldn't want all this discussion, as such I'm not going to reply on this matter ever again.

[Nkotok]

OK, guys. I am a new member and was waiting for 5 days to be able to post for the first time.
I don't know if it is a bug of BD RB or something else, but I am concerned with the output size of the final result. It seems to be very inconsistent. Sometimes it gives me folders that are only 20 or 21 GB large, which sucks b.c. I waste space on a BD-R but is not that big of a deal. The main problem though is when BD RB recodes and still gives me too big of a size to fit on a BD-R. Like by about 500MB bigger than fits on a blank. I noticed that it happens mostly when I check Keep HD Audio in the options. That is what I am mostly interested in.

I choose Movie Only, BD25, in audio options I don't check anything BUT Keep HD Audio. That's it.

It also seems that the bigger the movie (like if it is 40Gb or bigger) the chance that BD Rb will screw up with the final size is bigger, too.

Could it be fixed?

Thanks

[GaPony]

As is common in a beta... there are still some issues with the newer feature of keeping the HD audio. For the time being, you might want to either not keep the HD audio, or at least check the size before committing to disc. Using BD-RE media would also be a good idea for the short term.

In any case, jdobbs is working on it... This software has come a long way in just over 4 months, so be patient.

[DaMacFunkin]

Sorry dude, tought luck.

Those tiny m2ts <0.5mb often have problems encoding and you will be left with an m2ts of 0kb in size and obviously your output bluray won't play in most cases.

To make sure you don't waste hours of time only to find you have one of them, make sure you do "quciker encode for extras". It should put the small files first...then just check your output folder for any 0kb m2ts\status window for errors.

Cheers (oh Fudge!!!) LOL

[old-hack]

I'm getting that "Stop Statement" dialogue box then BDRB automatically closing when I click "OK" on the dialogue box when i set min m2ts to =0 with...

Kung Fu Panda - UK\EU version.
Royal Space Force - The Wings of Honneamise - Jap import.

...Setting it to =10 and I don't get it...defo something wrong there...

I'm also getting the "Stop" statement when processing Monster's Ball with 0.20.08. No log is generated so I can't help out that way. I haven't tried 0.20.07. Just wanted to get this into the bug thread.

[bassnut]

well finally I can post something. I am fairly new to BD Rebuilder but a long time user of DVD Rebuilder and have to say thank Jdobbs for another great program.

I have had a chance not to play with BD Rebuilder for a couple weeks and am surprised with the results ...... of the 17 BLU-RAYS that I have tried I have only had problems with 2 where the movie actually freeze on me and thought I would pass those along to you all. All movies are Canadian Release Region A.

1) Wanted - Freezes in Chapter 11 this is almost the end of the movie just after all the rats explode. Sound contiues to play right to the end but no more video just a frosen still shot.

2) Alien VS Predator - Freezes at chapter 13 this is right after the guy falls to the bottom of the ice shaft and the 2 aliens walk by ..... video and audio though the Audio plays on for a few seconds longer. To shut the movie off you have to unplug the Stand alone player. ..... Sony BDP S350

Now with Alien Vs Predator I can skip this part and the movie will play through without any more problems. I have encoded this one a couple times and burnt a couple time as well with 0.20.05, .07 and .08

3) Mummy 3 - Allot of people seemed to have an issue with this movie but it backed up for me almost without a problem. No video in the extras:

The Making of the Mummy 3
From City To Desert

No video just a white screen though the audio works and can select the menue as well. Everything else seems to be as it should be and working.

Some other movies that did work for me that I think I seen error reports for:

National Treasure II, The Incredible Hulk, Death Race, Punisher, War Zone, Ghost Rider, 300, Quantum Of Solace.

If there is any help you might require shout or PM me. With the exception of 8 movies that have LPCM where I will wait till it is fully supported before I do them I have a computer sitting doing nothing.

:helpful:

[Furiousflea]

Don't you think that JD has the prerogative to progress 'HIS' software (which he offers to all of us for FREE!) at a pace of HIS choosing?? I mean come on guys!!... He is doing this for us without any demands towards us.. whether monetary or work. The least that we can do is be thankful just for whatever he has given us to this point.:cool:

I can understand if you paid big bucks for his software, or at the very least, donated a 'HUGE' amount towards his work, considering the constant badgering you guys are doing....

I wouldn't blame him if he just got fed up altogether and shut this thing down.... let's just appreciate what he can get to for the time being....
He Does Have a Real Job in Real Life Guys!! Give it a rest already...PLEASE... before he shuts it down...

We're trying to help by offering ideas\solutions.

This is a bug report thread and that is what is being discussed - Bugs.

Has political correctness madness reached doom9?

If there's a problem to be reported, it gets reported. This isn't happy teddy bears picnic\talking shop\womens institute...

turbojet obviously knows what he's talking about, maybe jdobbs should be greatful to him. He is literally receiving nothing in return for posting here.

That was a rhetorical question but you get my point. We're all trying to help out :) Haven't always got time to say please and thankyou at the end of every post. I assume it's a given, when a new release comes out I always post a word of thanks etc for problems addressed. It's just an unspoken resepect thing most of the time.

We've been over this already! What's the problem...Just the tone? Well sorry dude, but we're all of different nationality, all of different backgrounds and I think everyone here is curteous most the time.

[Furiousflea]

I'm also getting the "Stop" statement when processing Monster's Ball with 0.20.08. No log is generated so I can't help out that way. I haven't tried 0.20.07. Just wanted to get this into the bug thread.

Aye, there are a couple of discs where the "stop" thingy appears no matter what size you have the min m2ts as, or if the option is removed altogether.

The problem isn't present in any previous versions to my knowledge (only affects 0.20.08).

[Rail-Runner]

Being a newbie not sure if this is a settings or hardware limitation causeing this error to freeze things at 42.82% when reencodeing Crank, my PC is a (new)Lenovo K series dual core,BD25 full movie tried BDRB 2005 & 2008 with same error stopping progress.
C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe
Aften:A/52 audio encoder
version SUN
2006-2007
Found PCM audio: 8 channels,48000 Hz,16 bits,5262.260000 seconds.
Writeing WAV file...
Input format: Microsoft WAVE signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz multi- channel
Unsupported # of channels passed to aften_wav_chmask_to_acmod
mismatch in channels, acmod,and lfe params
Error: Could not write to the standard output
Love the program but have only had 2 of 5 make it to a perfect final burn status. Transformers and I am Legend came out as perfect as the original on BD25, but Terminator 2, Shoot Em Up and Crank were no goes, Crank had the above listed error when running both 2005 & 2008 versions of BDRB

[MikeyBK]

Can anyone else verify that the TSMuxer version in 0.20.08 causes no auto play on PS3s?
I've done what JD suggested and placed the TSMuxer version from 0.20.05 into the 0.20.08 Tools folder and all plays fine now on PS3.

@ Turbojet... it's all good Bro, your input is appreciated... just that this wasn't necessary IMHO
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1283919&postcount=2781

[turbojet]

No auto play meaning you have to navigate to the m2ts to play it?
If so 'strict AVCHD' disabled won't work but if it's enabled with 0.20.08 tsmuxer it should work on PS3 but it won't work in PowerDVD and 1-2 samsung players. To fix PowerDVD playback replace with tsmuxer 1.10.04+. A few weeks and Samsung players may be fixed. I know exactly why it happens (--avchd vs. --bluray) and there's a few posts in this thread from others and me on how to fix it. The tsmuxer (1.8.4) from 0.28.05 works like 1.10.04+ except no TrueHD output.

I just think he gets as frustrated as I have when the person who needs to hear isn't hearing or isn't around to hear you. More organization of the info might help a lot.

[Furiousflea]

I just think he gets as frustrated as I have when the person who needs to hear isn't hearing or isn't around to hear you. More organization of the info might help a lot.

Pretty much :)

[tekmobile]

Being a newbie not sure if this is a settings or hardware limitation causeing this error to freeze things at 42.82% when reencodeing Crank, my PC is a (new)Lenovo K series dual core,BD25 full movie tried BDRB 2005 & 2008 with same error stopping progress.
C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe
Aften:A/52 audio encoder
version SUN
2006-2007
Found PCM audio: 8 channels,48000 Hz,16 bits,5262.260000 seconds.
Writeing WAV file...
Input format: Microsoft WAVE signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz multi- channel
Unsupported # of channels passed to aften_wav_chmask_to_acmod
mismatch in channels, acmod,and lfe params
Error: Could not write to the standard output
Love the program but have only had 2 of 5 make it to a perfect final burn status. Transformers and I am Legend came out as perfect as the original on BD25, but Terminator 2, Shoot Em Up and Crank were no goes, Crank had the above listed error when running both 2005 & 2008 versions of BDRB

This is caused by a limitation of aften because it does not support 8 Channel LPCM

[Rail-Runner]

Just wondering if I need a sound card upgrade or is this more of BDRB that may be addressed in a newer beta version, I appoligise for asking a question in the bug report thread, but would greatly appreciate any info that may help out.

[tekmobile]

Just wondering if I need a sound card upgrade or is this more of BDRB that may be addressed in a newer beta version, I appoligise for asking a question in the bug report thread, but would greatly appreciate any info that may help out.

its a BD RB issue its nothing to do with your soundcard and will get addressed when a solution is available.
Aften is a 3rd party tool so out of the hands of jdobbs

[Rail-Runner]

Thank You tekmobile

[MikeyBK]

No auto play meaning you have to navigate to the m2ts to play it?
If so 'strict AVCHD' disabled won't work but if it's enabled with 0.20.08 tsmuxer it should work on PS3 but it won't work in PowerDVD and 1-2 samsung players. To fix PowerDVD playback replace with tsmuxer 1.10.04+. A few weeks and Samsung players may be fixed. I know exactly why it happens (--avchd vs. --bluray) and there's a few posts in this thread from others and me on how to fix it. The tsmuxer (1.8.4) from 0.28.05 works like 1.10.04+ except no TrueHD output.

I just think he gets as frustrated as I have when the person who needs to hear isn't hearing or isn't around to hear you. More organization of the info might help a lot.

I have no desire to retain Dolby TrueHD nor LPCM, because frankly speaking, there is not much gain over simple AC3 audio streams on a decent sound system...
I've already fixed what I need to attain my BD back-ups, just got caught not paying attention when versions 0.20.07 & 0.20.08 came out... but all's good now. And it was really only an issue with PS3s because my Sony BDP-BX1 plays all my back-ups.

I just wanted to reconfirm if others with PS3s were experieincing the same with BD-RB 0.20.08 using the new version of TSMuxer... and if so, then that using the TSMuxer version from 0.20.05 will fix that auto-play issue without needing to check the 'Strict AVCHD' option... which according to you would cause issues with other players.
;)

[hoju3508]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

What the heck????

[HiDefNOob]

I dont know how to get the error message LSTCMD thingy to work. but I did see this in the error log when I try to back up Indepence Day
it's the us version.

[17:17:03] DoEncoding() 00009 2008

[Tongariro]

YES!!!!!!

There hasn't been a problem with DTSHD\MA for a while.


From some reason my output gets freezes when movie have DTS-MA.

It looks like something wrong with tsmuxer.

I tried to demux using the newest tsMuxeR 1.10.6 - no problem.
mux it back to m2ts just the video and the dts files - no problem in the muxing process.

m2ts freezes.

The same happens using BD RB 20.08 (i tried 07 and 05 and different tsmuxer all same result).

if its working for you can you guess what i am doing wrong?

[pull10k]

I have the movie the orphanage. I am using 20.08. As soon as it scans the directory I get an instant message in a pop up window "Stop statement encountered".
As a test I set BACK my clock so 20.05 would work and it reads the directories no problem. Any thoughts?
All updated and necessary programs are there. Plus I have Vista and XP both and it is the same in both.

[tekmobile]

I have the movie the orphanage. I am using 20.08. As soon as it scans the directory I get an instant message in a pop up window "Stop statement encountered".
As a test I set BACK my clock so 20.05 would work and it reads the directories no problem. Any thoughts?
All updated and necessary programs are there. Plus I have Vista and XP both and it is the same in both.

This is a known problem hence the reason im still using 0.20.07

[DMagic1]

Its my first time testing BDRebuilder as I never had access to a full Bluray on my harddrive. I've created other BD9 using tsmuxer and multiAVCHD with no issues working on my PS3.

I just created a movie only project with BDRebuilder burned with Imgburn and the PS3 sees it as a data disc.

Any solution to this?

Version used is v0.20.08 with only tools from the released package. No apps switched.

[Nkotok]

I don't know what to think of the output size option in BD RB as it always gives me a different size at the end. So when I choose BD25, I only remotely can hope that it will be close enough and will fit on a BD25 (as I mentioned earlier all that when I check Keep HD Audio option).

So I started using another way to get the size right with higher success rate.

I use TSmuxer and rip HD Audio from the main movie. Then I look at the size of the audio track I got. Then I deduct this size from the size of BD-R and put the result size into Custom Size option in BD Rebuilder. Then I reencode the movie only in BD RB without audio. At the end I put the reencoded video and audio from earlier into TSmuxer again and mux them together and build blu-ray structure.

So far it seems to be working better than to just rely on BD Rebuilder alone.

[turbojet]

You can use goBD (http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD-tool.exe) on the index.bdmv of the output

To solve it from happening with future encodes done with 0.20.08 enable strict AVCHD in options.

[DaMacFunkin]

I have the movie the orphanage. I am using 20.08. As soon as it scans the directory I get an instant message in a pop up window "Stop statement encountered".
As a test I set BACK my clock so 20.05 would work and it reads the directories no problem. Any thoughts?
All updated and necessary programs are there. Plus I have Vista and XP both and it is the same in both.

The Full disk of The Orphanage is only about 18 gig, you can just back up straight to BD 25.

[DMagic1]

You can use goBD (http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD-tool.exe) on the index.bdmv of the output

To solve it from happening with future encodes done with 0.20.08 enable strict AVCHD in options.

Does goBD allow menus with the PS3?

[jdobbs]

Sorry for the slow fixes and updates. My real job is killing me. I've posted a new version on the first page of this thread. Changes:
- Fixed a bug in which a "STOP" statement (meant for
testing) was left enabled in v0.20.08 and could be
encountered randomly.
- Corrected an error in which a value larger than
2000 for MIN_M2TS_SIZE could cause a failure in
attempting to copy files.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[turbojet]

Does goBD allow menus with the PS3?

Full backup you mean? If so first generation EU PS3's are confirmed to work, don't know about other generations.

I've checked a newer US PS3 without luck.

[Furiousflea]

Sorry for the slow fixes and updates. My real job is killing me. I've posted a new version on the first page of this thread. Changes:
- Fixed a bug in which a "STOP" statement (meant for
testing) was left enabled in v0.20.08 and could be
encountered randomly.
- Corrected an error in which a value larger than
2000 for MIN_M2TS_SIZE could cause a failure in
attempting to copy files.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Cheers :)

[DMagic1]

Full backup you mean? If so first generation EU PS3's are confirmed to work, don't know about other generations.

I've checked a newer US PS3 without luck.

Thanks
I have a newer US Ps3 and it tries to play it but then states "cant play video", or something.

I think its a problem with the Rebuilder output though because PowerDVD wont play the first title either. It just sits there and crashes if I try to skip to next title.

Any input jdobbs?

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Sorry for the slow fixes and updates. My real job is killing me. I've posted a new version on the first page of this thread.
Thankyou for your continued efforts and bug fixes, and I hope you find some time for enjoyment away from " the real job". ;)
I'm glad to see you are still here!

[noosy]

@jdobbs;

I am French and my English is very bad but I would like to thank you for BD-Rebuilder and updates it as you do on your spare time in addition to your work.

If you want to make a pro version no problem for me because I think all work deserves pay; As long as you can pay by Paypal ...

Again thank you for this excellent software.

[gamo62]

I got an error, 2203 at the end when it was rebuilding the files. the program closed, and I cannot resume the job. I have all of the files in the workfiles directory, and need to find a way to rebuild them.
This is from the log.

-[03:42:16]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [03:42:16] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [03:42:27] RebuildBDFiles() 00075 2203

I now have the files and need to find a way to continue the process.

[Rail-Runner]

Sorry for the slow fixes and updates. My real job is killing me. I've posted a new version on the first page of this thread. Changes:
- Fixed a bug in which a "STOP" statement (meant for
testing) was left enabled in v0.20.08 and could be
encountered randomly.
- Corrected an error in which a value larger than
2000 for MIN_M2TS_SIZE could cause a failure in
attempting to copy files.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Great work jdobbs, haveing more success with every version, not sure if this was a bug or conflict, Shoot Em Up, came out perfect when I left all boxs unchecked in General Encodeing Options and removed from my system Dvd Blaster and Roxio, not sure if there may have been a conflict with there codecs or drivers when I tried this movie before I had only checked Do not convert DTS to AC3 with no success, this try only had 1 minor problem when it reached the last sector for reencodeing, the microsoft x264 banner looking to solve problem popped up, once it closed it automatically retried reencodeing with complete success to BD25 on Vista OS

[Nkotok]

Does BD RB leave original chapter marks in Movie Mode only up 60 minute mark or maybe I am confusing it with the latest TSmuxer that for some reason in Custom chapter list only gives chapter until 60 minutes?

[Capsbackup]

Does BD RB leave original chapter marks in Movie Mode only up 60 minute mark?

BD-RB keeps all the original chapters for the entire movie, regardless of length.

[Nkotok]

BD-RB keeps all the original chapters for the entire movie, regardless of length.

Cool, then it must be TSmuxer. ANybody knows why the latest TSmuxer does not go beyond 60 minutes in custom chapters?

[Nkotok]

Also, I still try to figure out: do I need to check "stricter AVCHD compliance" option if I make a Movie only reencode for BD25 and play on a standalone Panny? Thanks in advance.

[hoju3508]

It does. Just replace whatever is in the box with your chapters. I just did it for Da Vinci Code (~3 hrs) with a lot of chapters.

Cool, then it must be TSmuxer. ANybody knows why the latest TSmuxer does not go beyond 60 minutes in custom chapters?

[Wolfe999]

I'm posting here without knowing if it's a bug or not. If it's not, my apologies in advance.

This week I got my new PC, just bought to work only with BD-Rebuilder, I will use it for nothing else. Some generic specs: i7 920 - Asus mobo - 6 GB RAM - 512 MB dedicated graphics - LG Blu Ray burner - 2 HDD 500MB each & Windows7 RC 7100 x64. It has no problem at all ripping BluRays to the HDD.

The "Problem" is: when I load the original of HULK in the LG burner, PowerDVD freezes whenever I try to play it; it doesn't either accept images mounted on VirtualCloneDrive, but MediaPlayerClassic Home Cinema plays the movie very smoothly. However, after doing the movie with BD-Rebuilder (always "movie only" plus 2 languages & 2 subtitles) and burn it to DVD, MPC HC plays it in a very shaky and jumpy way, BUT Power DVD plays it beautifully :?:. I did the movie several times changing settings in BD-Rebuilder and always got the same results. As I have no standalone playear, I only can test it through the PC.

I'd really appreciate if somebody could shed a light on this.

Thanx and regards :)
Wolfe999

[turbojet]

I'm posting here without knowing if it's a bug or not. If it's not, my apologies in advance.

This week I got my new PC, just bought to work only with BD-Rebuilder, I will use it for nothing else. Some generic specs: i7 920 - Asus mobo - 6 GB RAM - 512 MB dedicated graphics - LG Blu Ray burner - 2 HDD 500MB each & Windows7 RC 7100 x64. It has no problem at all ripping BluRays to the HDD.

The "Problem" is: when I load the original of HULK in the LG burner, PowerDVD freezes whenever I try to play it; it doesn't either accept images mounted on VirtualCloneDrive, but MediaPlayerClassic Home Cinema plays the movie very smoothly. However, after doing the movie with BD-Rebuilder (always "movie only" plus 2 languages & 2 subtitles) and burn it to DVD, MPC HC plays it in a very shaky and jumpy way, BUT Power DVD plays it beautifully :?:. I did the movie several times changing settings in BD-Rebuilder and always got the same results. As I have no standalone playear, I only can test it through the PC.

I'd really appreciate if somebody could shed a light on this.

Thanx and regards :)
Wolfe999

For the powerDVD not playing original do you have the latest powerDVD build installed?

As for the MPC-HC issue a quick fix is setting MKV_INTERMEDIATE=1 in BDREBUILDER.INI

It's not really a BD-Rebuilder bug but it could easily be worked around with BD-Rebuilder. But it's an MPC-HC bug that they don't seem to care at all about. It's also reported to be a bug in Arcsoft TMT2/TME.

[Nkotok]

I'm posting here without knowing if it's a bug or not. If it's not, my apologies in advance.

This week I got my new PC, just bought to work only with BD-Rebuilder, I will use it for nothing else. Some generic specs: i7 920 - Asus mobo - 6 GB RAM - 512 MB dedicated graphics - LG Blu Ray burner - 2 HDD 500MB each & Windows7 RC 7100 x64. It has no problem at all ripping BluRays to the HDD.

The "Problem" is: when I load the original of HULK in the LG burner, PowerDVD freezes whenever I try to play it; it doesn't either accept images mounted on VirtualCloneDrive, but MediaPlayerClassic Home Cinema plays the movie very smoothly. However, after doing the movie with BD-Rebuilder (always "movie only" plus 2 languages & 2 subtitles) and burn it to DVD, MPC HC plays it in a very shaky and jumpy way, BUT Power DVD plays it beautifully :?:. I did the movie several times changing settings in BD-Rebuilder and always got the same results. As I have no standalone playear, I only can test it through the PC.

I'd really appreciate if somebody could shed a light on this.

Thanx and regards :)
Wolfe999

Which DVD did you burn it onto? DVD5, DVD9. Or maybe even BD25?

I used BD RB for BD25 reencodes and got several results that came out jumpy (or shaky if you will) whehn watched on a standalone BD player and lcd.
I think people will not be able to help you here more than just say that BD RB is in beta and is being worked on.

[Nkotok]

For the powerDVD not playing original do you have the latest powerDVD build installed?

As for the MPC-HC issue a quick fix is setting MKV_INTERMEDIATE=1 in BDREBUILDER.INI

It's not really a BD-Rebuilder bug but it could easily be worked around with BD-Rebuilder. But it's an MPC-HC bug that they don't seem to care at all about. It's also reported to be a bug in Arcsoft TMT2/TME.

Taking this into consideration, maybe Wolfe999"s problem is only with MPC-HC. But mine is still with BD RB's encodes. As I watch all the results on a standalone player. Some reencodes do seem jumpy.

[Furiousflea]

Sorry for the slow fixes and updates. My real job is killing me. I've posted a new version on the first page of this thread. Changes:
- Fixed a bug in which a "STOP" statement (meant for
testing) was left enabled in v0.20.08 and could be
encountered randomly.
- Corrected an error in which a value larger than
2000 for MIN_M2TS_SIZE could cause a failure in
attempting to copy files.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

BUG....maybe.

Just did "300" again since this version should be able to do it properly. However in the final output folder there is 1 file less than in the original.

Had a look through and it is an MPLS. In the original playlists folder in the "BACKUP" folder than are 26 MPLS starting from 00000.mpls. Once processed by BDRB there are 25 MPLS in this folder starting with 00001.mpls.

This is only in the "BACKUP" (BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST), the actual "PLAYLIST" folder in (BDMV\PLAYLIST) has 26 MPLS files present...

Just wanted to report it as it seems incorrect to me...

Could you let us know?

Thanks.

[turbojet]

Also, I still try to figure out: do I need to check "stricter AVCHD compliance" option if I make a Movie only reencode for BD25 and play on a standalone Panny? Thanks in advance.

Theoretically both should work on Panasonics but strict AVCHD enabled will not work on powerDVD/winDVD and 1-2 samsung players. w/o strict AVCHD it should work on all but not very well tested. The most tested and proven output can be produced by replacing tsmuxer.exe with 1.10.6 and enabling strict AVCHD.

Taking this into consideration, maybe Wolfe999"s problem is only with MPC-HC. But mine is still with BD RB's encodes. As I watch all the results on a standalone player. Some reencodes do seem jumpy.

I haven't seen this reported before and in that case I'd suspect a bad burn or weak laser.

[Wolfe999]

For the powerDVD not playing original do you have the latest powerDVD build installed?

As for the MPC-HC issue a quick fix is setting MKV_INTERMEDIATE=1 in BDREBUILDER.INI

It's not really a BD-Rebuilder bug but it could easily be worked around with BD-Rebuilder. But it's an MPC-HC bug that they don't seem to care at all about. It's also reported to be a bug in Arcsoft TMT2/TME.

Thank you for the explanation and the solution. I will change the ini right now. But I'll report later as now I'm ripping Bullit's HD DVD as I want to try the guide by furiousflea.

About Power DVD, I use v7 (with the latest patch) because I've been told it's the last one that accepts HD DVD and because it came with my BluRay burner.

Which DVD did you burn it onto? DVD5, DVD9. Or maybe even BD25?

The first time I did the movie as a BD9, and my plan is doing it always that size, but as I don't have rewritable DVD DLs and didn't want to take the risk of losing several that way, I redid the movie to BD5 (with excellent results, BTW) and burnt it to a DVD5.

Frankly, I'm greatly pleased and grateful for the help I'm already getting here, being an absolute noob on this matter.

Regards :)
Wolfe

but strict AVCHD enabled will not work on powerDVD/winDVD

It's strange. Because following your advise in another thread, I enabled strict AVCHD, and after burning it to DVD5, that's when PowerDVD played it smoothly.

(edited to include latest turbojet comment)

[turbojet]

Thank you for the explanation and the solution. I will change the ini right now. But I'll report later as now I'm ripping Bullit's HD DVD as I want to try the guide by furiousflea.

About Power DVD, I use v7 (with the latest patch) because I've been told it's the last one that accepts HD DVD and because it came with my BluRay burner.

Hmm then I'm not sure why powerDVD would freeze.

It's strange. Because following your advise in another thread, I enabled strict AVCHD, and after burning it to DVD5, that's when PowerDVD played it smoothly.

(edited to include latest turbojet comment)

The inconsistencies are because the TSMuxer included with BD-RB produces different output then the newest TSMuxer. Also many standalone players can play different outputs on BD then they can on DVD. I know it's confusing and can be a headache at times.

[Nkotok]

The inconsistencies are because the TSMuxer included with BD-RB produces different output then the newest TSMuxer. Also many standalone players can play different outputs on BD then they can on DVD. I know it's confusing and can be a headache at times.

Is Tsmuxer built into Bd RB? IF so, what version of TSmuxer is in the latest Bd RB?
Sorry if it is a silly question.
It is just you said to use the latest Tsmuxer and enabe strict AVCHD.

[turbojet]

Is Tsmuxer built into Bd RB? IF so, what version of TSmuxer is in the latest Bd RB?
Sorry if it is a silly question.
It is just you said to use the latest Tsmuxer and enabe strict AVCHD.

No BD_Rebuilder\tools\tsmuxer.exe is called from BD-RB, in the current version it's 1.10.1. You can check version by running tsmuxer.exe from command line.

[Nkotok]

No BD_Rebuilder\tools\tsmuxer.exe is called from BD-RB, in the current version it's 1.10.1. You can check version by running tsmuxer.exe from command line.

O.K. Then a question. If there is TSmuxer1.10.6 out now and the latest BD RB was posted today (or yesterday) why is the tsmuxer in it still 1.10.1?

[turbojet]

O.K. Then a question. If there is TSmuxer1.10.6 out now and the latest BD RB was posted today (or yesterday) why is the tsmuxer in it still 1.10.1?

Only jdobbs can accurately answer this.

[Furiousflea]

Only jdobbs can accurately answer this.

Something todo with only using versions that are known to work correctly...

God knows... :confused:;)

[GaPony]

I'm pretty sure its simply a case of him using the latest version with which he tested his latest build of BDRebuilder. He has kept updating TSMuxer with new versions, but can't possibly stay current with the developers of TSMuxer, since they seem to update every other day.

[Wolfe999]

The problem continues after changing the ini line suggested by turbojet. I frankly can't understand it. I will summarize it:

- Power DVD freezes with original BD & MPC-HC plays it but doesn't give whole access to languages, subtitles & menu.
- Once ripped to HDD, PowerDVD says something (it's a translation) "format not recognized or not BD compatible" and MPC-HC plays it smoothly.
- Once done by BD-Rebuilder and converted to iso and mounted on virtual drive, PowerDVD still doesn't recognize it and MPC-HC plays it very shakily.
- But once burnt (I just burnt HULK to a DVD-DL), PowerDVD plays it without a glitch and with full access to both languages and subtitles.

I frankly don't understand a thing. I just hope I'm not burning coasters, as I'm planning on buying the LG B370 mentioned by Turbojet (loved the reviews) in 2 weeks approximately. Meanwhile, I only have the PC burner/player.

Regards :)

Aside from this and hoping everything is OK, the quality is just awesome!

[Capsbackup]

@Wolfe999;

I frankly don't understand a thing. I just hope I'm not burning coasters, as I'm planning on buying the LG B370 mentioned by Turbojet (loved the reviews) in 2 weeks approximately. Meanwhile, I only have the PC burner/player.

I would suggest you take a few of your discs you have created to a local store that carrys the player that you want to purchase, and perhaps some other players, and test them for compatibility before you purchase. This could prove valuable that you are making the proper choice for your backups.

[turbojet]

The problem continues after changing the ini line suggested by turbojet. I frankly can't understand it. I will summarize it:

I will try to make it as to the point as I can but it may just really confuse you.

- Power DVD freezes with original BD & MPC-HC plays it but doesn't give whole access to languages, subtitles & menu.

No clue why powerDVD isn't playing it well.

- Once ripped to HDD, PowerDVD says something (it's a translation) "format not recognized or not BD compatible" and MPC-HC plays it smoothly.

For powerDVD to play from HDD it can only have these folders BDMV\BACKUP+CLIPINF+PLAYLIST+STREAM and it will only play AC3 audio.

- Once done by BD-Rebuilder and converted to iso and mounted on virtual drive, PowerDVD still doesn't recognize it and MPC-HC plays it very shakily.

For PowerDVD to play it from iso it needs these directories: BDMV\AUXDATA+BACKUP+BDJO+CLIPINF+JAR+META+PLAYLIST+STREAM
and CERTIFICATE Using TSmuxer 1.10.6 and checking enable strict AVCHD output for movie only outputs this. If you are doing full backup you need to make empty directories if any are missing.

With the MPC-HC issue if you look in BD-RB WORKFILES is there an .mkv or a .264 file? If it's mkv the only thing I can suspect is the decoder used. If it's .264 recheck MKV_INTERMEDIATE=1 in the ini, you might have to restart BD-RB after changing it.

- But once burnt (I just burnt HULK to a DVD-DL), PowerDVD plays it without a glitch and with full access to both languages and subtitles.

for PowerDVD to play from DVD\BD it only needs these folders: BDMV\CLIPINF+PLAYLIST+STREAM but it can have other folders as well and can play all types of audio.

I frankly don't understand a thing. I just hope I'm not burning coasters, as I'm planning on buying the LG B370 mentioned by Turbojet (loved the reviews) in 2 weeks approximately. Meanwhile, I only have the PC burner/player.

Regards :)

Aside from this and hoping everything is OK, the quality is just awesome!

If you are buying a non-EU BD370 it doesn't play mkv, xvid or stream from USB or LAN which may make the reviews you read misleading.

[jdobbs]

I'm pretty sure its simply a case of him using the latest version with which he tested his latest build of BDRebuilder. He has kept updating TSMuxer with new versions, but can't possibly stay current with the developers of TSMuxer, since they seem to update every other day. I've just been too busy lately to keep up. All you have to do is replace it with the latest version if that's the choice someone might want to make.

[turbojet]

I've just been too busy lately to keep up. All you have to do is replace it with the latest version if that's the choice someone might want to make.

I don't know if you noticed it or not but latest also resizes sup files to 720p if video-width=1280,video-height=720 is in the sup line of the meta. That's one thing you don't have to mess with but it needs BD-RB's sub resize code disabled to work correctly.

Also these few changes should theoretically fix all playback issues other than PIP:
- both movie only modes use --avchd
- movie only with strict AVCHD enabled removes BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META and CERTIFICATE
- full backup adds these empty directories if they don't exist: BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META
- mkv is always used for elementary

There's been quite a bit of talk about playability lately. Other than that the STOP issue that seems fixed and there's some DO_ENCODING bug reports.

[Lif3styl3]

i've tried encoding of transporter 3.
Everything works fine, except the audio.

i've used the tsmuxxer version which was provided with bd rebuilder to make a movie only copy without reencoding. in this case i've got the dts-hd audio.

Using bdrebuilder it doesn't work.
I'am only getting dxolby digital 5.1 output.

Please note, the audio is calles DTS-HD XLL. I've tried another bd, where the audio was called dts-hd, there the hd data was kept.

[Wolfe999]

@Turbojet: Thanx for your explanation, I will do as you say & see the results. About the LG, it's from the EU and also the reviews I read :)

@Capsbackup: of course my intention was to goto the store with several BD9s done by me and try them with the player I'd buy. Anyway, thanx for reminding it to me :)

As I don't want to highjack this thread and seeing that most probably my problems are software produced and having had never a error from BD-Rebuilder, during the "only movie" I've done till now its work during the process has been perfect. Don't know, as its not my intention of doing ever so, what could happen with a "full backup".

So, my gratitude to everybody and congrats JDobbs for making another program that makes such a process so simple.

regards :)

[sesko]

Frst thanks for this great program.

I have one question. I heard that the best settings for x264 in backuping to BDR-25 GB are:
-A minimum of 3 ref frames and subme 7 must be used for encoding
-The encoding process must respect Level 4.1, meaning that 5 ref frames can't be used

So can somebody please tell me where can I see this settings in BD rebuilder or are settings in BD rebuilder set by deafult like this?

Thank you for your answers

Kind regards

[Sharc]

You can for example see the settings by opening the Lastcmd.txt file which you find in the BD Rebuilder program directory. BD Rebuilder sets these parameters by default to ensure compliance with the blu-ray spec. You should not change these unless you know what you are doing.

[DMagic1]

Tried my title again and still PowerDVD wont play it. It recognizes the disc and what movie it is but fails when it tries to play. PS3 also states can't play video message. Original disc and backed up files to harddrive and put in image play fine with PowerDVD.

This a full backup by the way with the lastest release of BDR.

[turbojet]

Frst thanks for this great program.

I have one question. I heard that the best settings for x264 in backuping to BDR-25 GB are:
-A minimum of 3 ref frames and subme 7 must be used for encoding
-The encoding process must respect Level 4.1, meaning that 5 ref frames can't be used

So can somebody please tell me where can I see this settings in BD rebuilder or are settings in BD rebuilder set by deafult like this?

Thank you for your answers

Kind regards

I'm pretty sure these are the x264 settings used for each quality setting (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1237162#post1237162)

[jdobbs]

I'm pretty sure these are the x264 settings used for each quality setting (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1237162#post1237162)
Very close, with a couple of requirements added to meet Blu-Ray specific req'ts (like how often you get a key frame).

[woodman]

Hello, i have just encoded a 43gb film to fit target size BD-25, the output file size that BD-Rebuilder created is 22.7gb, is this small enough to fit on the BD-25 disc because when i tried to burn it useing Imageburn it said not enough space on disc. I continued to burn (useing Verbatim BD-RE) and it got to 98% and expectedly failed, i then tried an LG BD-RE and that got to 99%. Are my discs at fault or output file size. Thanks

[DaMacFunkin]

i've tried encoding of transporter 3.
Everything works fine, except the audio.

i've used the tsmuxxer version which was provided with bd rebuilder to make a movie only copy without reencoding. in this case i've got the dts-hd audio.

Using bdrebuilder it doesn't work.
I'am only getting dxolby digital 5.1 output.

Please note, the audio is calles DTS-HD XLL. I've tried another bd, where the audio was called dts-hd, there the hd data was kept.
You have to be careful with Transporter 3, DTS-HD XLL isn't the default audio track on this film, it is LPCM 2.0 which BD Rebuilder doesn't fully support yet, i did a full back up to BD 25, and couldn't keep HD Audio because of the LPCM, so i chose not to keep HD Audio, and to Not re-encode DTS to ac3, this left me with a 1536kbps 5.1 DTS file, which is still pretty good.
You may need to re-check your audio settings.

[DaMacFunkin]

Sex Drive Region B doesn't work in full back up to BD25 using the latest BD Rebuilder... on the menus the overlay buttons don't appear, so you can't select anything, either on Stand alone or power DVD, i have chose to keep all subtitles, and have not limited to one per language. The rip Burned to a BD-50 works fine, is this a java problem?

[DaMacFunkin]

Hello, i have just encoded a 43gb film to fit target size BD-25, the output file size that BD-Rebuilder created is 22.7gb, is this small enough to fit on the BD-25 disc because when i tried to burn it useing Imageburn it said not enough space on disc. I continued to burn (useing Verbatim BD-RE) and it got to 98% and expectedly failed, i then tried an LG BD-RE and that got to 99%. Are my discs at fault or output file size. Thanks

You need to re-format your BD-RE to use the maximum space on the disk, i had this problem too, there is a tutorial somewhere else in the DVD rebuilder forum (can't remember the name of the post)

[stef73]

Sex Drive Region B doesn't work in full back up to BD25 using the latest BD Rebuilder... on the menus the overlay buttons don't appear, so you can't select anything, either on Stand alone or power DVD, i have chose to keep all subtitles, and have not limited to one per language. The rip Burned to a BD-50 works fine, is this a java problem?

yes it does just press stop when you get to the menu, then press play and it works with the menu popping up in the bottom left hand corner works on panasonic bd35 ps3 and samsung bdp 1500 like that

[DaMacFunkin]

yes it does just press stop when you get to the menu, then press play and it works with the menu popping up in the bottom left hand corner works on panasonic bd35 ps3 and samsung bdp 1500 like that

Already tried this and just tried again to make sure, on my Panny BD-30, press stop once when on menu loop, then press play and the menu loop continues, but no pop up menu appears, or can be called, tried on the R rated selection and the unrated selection, to no avail.. as mentioned also tried on Power DVD too.

[stef73]

Already tried this and just tried again to make sure, on my Panny BD-30, press stop once when on menu loop, then press play and the menu loop continues, but no pop up menu appears, or can be called, tried on the R rated selection and the unrated selection, to no avail.. as mentioned also tried on Power DVD too.

not sure why its not working then on yours, what version of anydvd hd are you using cos i had lots of trouble and had to update it to 6.5.4.9 then used bdrb full movie with hd audio and avchd compliance, also didnt tick quicker encode for extras

[woodman]

You need to re-format your BD-RE to use the maximum space on the disk, i had this problem too, there is a tutorial somewhere else in the DVD rebuilder forum (can't remember the name of the post)
Thanks for your help, i will try and source the post.

[DaMacFunkin]

not sure why its not working then on yours, what version of anydvd hd are you using cos i had lots of trouble and had to update it to 6.5.4.9 then used bdrb full movie with hd audio and avchd compliance, also didnt tick quicker encode for extras

Why would you use AVCHD compliance for a full disk back up?
I thought AVCHD was for movie only back up.
p.s. isn't a ANYDVD HD Prob (although it was ripped using 6.5.4.9) coz like i said BD-50 burn plays perfectly.
p.p.s. I never use quicker encode for extras.

[leChameleon]

I'm new to this forum thus this is my first post so please forgive me if I make a mistake.

First of all thank you for developing this software as well as your personal time and effort. Great work!

I didn't find any instructions so far if there is a preferred way to post/report bugs so I'll attempt to do so here.

There are a few blu-ray titles which I have tested with previous beta releases as well as the current one 0.20.90 which seem to fail in and around the same place when attempting both Full Backup or Movie-Only Backup.

These titles include:

1. Body Of Lies (2008)
2. JFK (1991) {Director's Cut}

These movies were ripped to hard disk drive using AnyDVD HD 6.5.4.9.


-----------------------
[17:05:17] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: BODY_OF_LIES
- Input BD size: 25.50 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:18.273]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[17:05:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:05:17] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [17:09:41] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 7,381 Kbs
- [17:09:41] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[17:12:45] - Failed video encode, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=BODY_OF_LIES
VERSION=v0.20.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=27381719040
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=27381719040
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.302911447885487
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00000]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=111100
M2TS_TARGET=8294236160
RATE=7381


-----------------------
[14:14:37] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: BODY_OF_LIES
- Input BD size: 36.57 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:27:16.603]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[14:14:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:14:37] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [14:18:51] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 4,951 Kbs
- [14:18:51] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[14:21:55] - Failed video encode, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=BODY_OF_LIES
VERSION=v0.20.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39264881470
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=39222927360
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.210394343447597
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00000]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=111100
M2TS_TARGET=5760958800
RATE=4951


JFK seems to fail in the same spot. Please let me know if you would like me to post this information as well. Or for that matter any other information you may need.

Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
RAM: 12GB
Processor: Intel Core i7 940

[leChameleon]

Blu-ray South Pacific "Disc 2" failed at 99.93% of the Overall Progress attempting a Full Backup.

This movie was ripped to hard disk drive using AnyDVD HD 6.5.4.9.


-----------------------
[18:07:23] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: SOUTH_PACIFIC_DISC2
- Input BD size: 42.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:27:18.318]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[18:07:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:07:25] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [18:09:34] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 1,062 Kbs
- [18:09:34] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:36:01] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:26:22] Video Encode complete
- [19:26:22] Reencoding audio tracks
- [19:28:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:28:36] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [19:32:34] Collecting video information [00002]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 5,496 Kbs
- [19:32:34] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:00:35] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:34:52] Video Encode complete
- [00:34:52] Reencoding audio tracks
- [00:35:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:36:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [00:37:25] Collecting video information [00003]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 5,538 Kbs
- [00:37:25] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:47:19] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:16:54] Video Encode complete
- [01:16:54] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:16:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:17:05] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [01:17:06] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 2,007 Kbs
- [01:17:06] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:17:11] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:17:20] Video Encode complete
- [01:17:20] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:17:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:17:20] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- [01:17:21] Collecting video information [00005]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 529 Kbs
- [01:17:21] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:17:33] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:17:50] Video Encode complete
- [01:17:50] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:17:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:17:51] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [01:17:52] Collecting video information [00006]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 530 Kbs
- [01:17:52] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:18:04] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:18:22] Video Encode complete
- [01:18:22] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:18:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:18:23] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00013]
- [01:18:23] Collecting video information [00013]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,130 Kbs
- [01:18:23] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:18:41] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:19:22] Video Encode complete
- [01:19:22] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:19:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:19:24] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00014]
- [01:19:42] Collecting video information [00014]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 5,548 Kbs
- [01:19:42] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:24:43] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:41:20] Video Encode complete
- [01:41:20] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:41:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:41:27] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00015]
- [01:41:35] Collecting video information [00015]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 5,569 Kbs
- [01:41:35] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:43:59] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:50:44] Video Encode complete
- [01:50:44] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:50:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:50:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00016]
- [01:51:03] Collecting video information [00016]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 1,218 Kbs
- [01:51:03] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:56:27] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:10:25] Video Encode complete
- [02:10:25] Reencoding audio tracks
- [02:10:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:10:38] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00017]
- [02:10:44] Collecting video information [00017]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 1,223 Kbs
- [02:10:44] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:12:41] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:17:04] Video Encode complete
- [02:17:04] Reencoding audio tracks
- [02:17:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:17:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00018]
- [02:17:10] Collecting video information [00018]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 1,183 Kbs
- [02:17:10] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:17:25] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:17:59] Video Encode complete
- [02:17:59] Reencoding audio tracks
- [02:18:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:18:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00019]
- [02:18:01] Collecting video information [00019]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 1,173 Kbs
- [02:18:01] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:18:11] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:18:37] Video Encode complete
- [02:18:37] Reencoding audio tracks
- [02:18:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:18:38] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00020]
- [02:18:39] Collecting video information [00020]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 2,520 Kbs
- [02:18:39] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[02:21:41] - Failed video encode, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=SOUTH_PACIFIC_DISC2
VERSION=v0.20.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45652363595
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=45526935552
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.17942802470572
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=13
[00001]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=11111100000
M2TS_TARGET=2224942600
RATE=1062
NSIZE=2257993728
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=4399381785
RATE=5496
NSIZE=4313899008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00003]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=657876085
RATE=5538
NSIZE=644007936
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00004]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=2995237
RATE=2007
NSIZE=3022848
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00005]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=9812514
RATE=529
NSIZE=10260480
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00006]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=9296588
RATE=530
NSIZE=9719808
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00013]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=11848657
RATE=3130
NSIZE=11642880
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00014]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=321685315
RATE=5548
NSIZE=314763264
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00015]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=127639849
RATE=5569
NSIZE=124323840
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00016]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=260397065
RATE=1218
NSIZE=268849152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00017]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=112119078
RATE=1223
NSIZE=115691520
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00018]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=15186742
RATE=1183
NSIZE=15685632
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00019]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=9992206
RATE=1173
NSIZE=10297344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00020]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=5634396
RATE=2520


Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
RAM: 12GB
Processor: Intel Core i7 940

[Furiousflea]

...More strange "Playlist" nonsense...

My backup of "From Russia With Love" contains 494 files...

Original contains 519 files...


Why is the latest BDRB not copying over correctly the files in the "\BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST" (where the difference in files is - and ONLY here.)

This is the 2nd disc out of 2 discs where there has been this discrepancy. The other being "300" where there I think was only 1 less file...

Are these files needed?

Is this normal?

ta, :)

[leChameleon]

Blu-ray Milk (2008) failed attempting a Full Backup.

This movie was ripped to hard disk drive using AnyDVD HD 6.5.4.9.


-----------------------
[04:19:01] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: MILK
- Input BD size: 40.00 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:51.303]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[04:19:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:19:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [04:19:03] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,407 Kbs
- [04:19:03] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[04:22:14] - Failed video encode, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=MILK
VERSION=v0.20.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42948668771
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42922893312
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.192635213122699
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=12349169
RATE=3407


Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
RAM: 12GB
Processor: Intel Core i7 940

[bassnut]

Re tried Alien Vs Predator last night with the new version. I had problems before witht his title as quoted below.

2) Alien VS Predator - Freezes at chapter 13 this is right after the guy falls to the bottom of the ice shaft and the 2 aliens walk by ..... video and audio though the Audio plays on for a few seconds longer. To shut the movie off you have to unplug the Stand alone player. ..... Sony BDP S350

Now with Alien Vs Predator I can skip this part and the movie will play through without any more problems. I have encoded this one a couple times and burnt a couple time as well with 0.20.05, .07 and .08

tried 3 different rips result Encode failed at the same point All were full backup to BD 25:

[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
RESIZE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUTO_BURN=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\
WORKING_PATH=C:\DVD_TEMP\


With Disk img IMGBRN & AnyDVD 6.5.4.9

[23:15:15] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: ALIEN_VS_PREDATOR
- Input BD size: 30.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:06.094]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
.......

- [10:10:11] Reencoding: VID_00060 (41 of 41)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[10:14:27] - Failed video encode, aborted


-----------------------------------------------------
Files ripped with AnyDVD Ripper ..... 6.5.4.9


[10:18:46] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: 85725123_ALIEN_VS_PREDATOR
- Input BD size: 30.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:06.094]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[10:18:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:18:46] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]

....................................

- [18:02:09] Reencoding: VID_00060 (41 of 41)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[18:02:11] - Failed video encode, aborted

---------------------------------------------------------

Strate from Disk using Any DVD 6.5.4.9

[18:17:44] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 30.21 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:06.094]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[18:17:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:17:44] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]

............................

- [02:59:50] Reencoding: VID_00060 (41 of 41)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[02:59:52] - Failed video encode, aborted

Could this be a problem with AnyDVD 6.5.4.9? Or something else?

Going to try a rolback to AnyDVD 6.5.4.4

[stef73]

Already tried this and just tried again to make sure, on my Panny BD-30, press stop once when on menu loop, then press play and the menu loop continues, but no pop up menu appears, or can be called, tried on the R rated selection and the unrated selection, to no avail.. as mentioned also tried on Power DVD too.

hiya again damacfunkin ive just tried it again and now if you select which version of sex drive you want to see click stop then top menu the gui will pop up tried it on panasonic bd35 in living room and its working

[colinhunt]

leChameleon & bassnut: I can tell from experience that x264.exe is quite a fickle little program, and requires very stable PC hardware. It's practically like running Prime95 for 12 hours to see how well your hardware holds up. I fooled around with overclocking my Core i7 920 last weekend and while Windows appeared stable, I started getting "Encode failed. Retrying." and "Reached retry limit. Aborting." errors. Those went away once I restored BIOS settings to defaults.

Also, leChameleon, are you sure the problem is not with Windows 7 compatibility? Just a guess, nothing more.

[turbojet]

x264 encoder crashes are not really a BD-RB bug, it's usually a decoder issue but encrypted source could also do it.

leChameleon: It seems you don't have a VC-1 decoder installed, try installing WMP11 and try again

bassnut: see if 00060.m2ts is VC-1 interlaced, if it is try this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924)

[bassnut]

@ turbojetThanks for the imput turbojet will check it out ....... The funny thing with this movie is, I had burnt it before though it did freez on me in chapter 13 but I could skip this section and play the movie right through to finish. So I am leaning towards something that has changed since my last build which could only be ..... AnyDVD and I installed Total Media Theater 3.

@ colinhunt ..... When I started with BD Rebuilder I found that 24 - 28 hours for a recode was a bit long for me to tie up my couputer so I did a bit of an upgrade my encode times are now down to 8 - 12 hours depending on the title.

Curently running:
Vista 64 Ultimate, Asus M378 VM with AMD Phenom II 940 Quad, 8 Gig DDr2 PC6400 and an Asus EAH4850. My only bottle neck is the BD Burner which is a Lite-on LH-2B1S which is only a 2X burner. An upgrade may be in the works but this one works fine for now.

This is a complete fresh build less than a month old which I have not tried to overclock in anyway. When I am doing a BD That is all the computer is doing. I am 70% through another recode and will see what happens in about 2 or 3 hours. If it fails again I will dig a bit geaper ito your suggestion as well as turbojets.

Thanks for the time.

[HWK]

]leChameleon & bassnut:

Windows 7 is still beta. If possible don't use when encoding. This may be part of problem.

[Sophocles]

It's really easy to get miffed when a reencode fails because of the shear time involved in completing it. For that reason I have one rig a Q9550@7.4 Ghz dedicated to that purpose, another rig a Q9650@3.94 GHz which I use for many purposes, and 3 fast dual core systems for backup. I don't know how many rigs jdobbs has to test with. One has to consider that if it takes us such a long time to complete a reencode that it will probably also take jdobbs a long time. Now imagine if you are given titles of movies that failed and then have to try them yourself, make some corrections, and then retest them again and again. Now how long would that take? This isn't going to move along like it did with DVD RB simply because of the time involved in moving forward, but if were all patient I suspect that jdobbs will see thing improve over time.:thanks:

[leChameleon]

leChameleon & bassnut: I can tell from experience that x264.exe is quite a fickle little program, and requires very stable PC hardware. It's practically like running Prime95 for 12 hours to see how well your hardware holds up. I fooled around with overclocking my Core i7 920 last weekend and while Windows appeared stable, I started getting "Encode failed. Retrying." and "Reached retry limit. Aborting." errors. Those went away once I restored BIOS settings to defaults.

Also, leChameleon, are you sure the problem is not with Windows 7 compatibility? Just a guess, nothing more. Not using the 0.20.90 release but with previous releases I used Windows XP Pro SP3 (32-bit) and ran into the same sort of issues. I switched to Windows 7 (64-bit) to speed up my testing from 3 days to 4.2 hours. I'm not certain where the problem resides, if it is the OS, 3rd party or BD-Rebuilder.

The new Windows 7 machine is stock, not overclocked in my case.

[leChameleon]

]leChameleon & bassnut:

Windows 7 is still beta. If possible don't use when encoding. This may be part of problem. OK, I'll try Windows Vista (64-bit) on this machine as Windows XP Pro (64-bit) is one I would not consider. From our testing many other applications for commercial production use (not associated with this) we've found that Windows 7 is more stable with 99% of all applications tested. Again this just our personal benchmarking.

In reading the 1st page there is no indication as to which OS is designed, tested and compatible with each version. I don't see this in the README.txt file or other files included/packaged with the release.

[leChameleon]

It's really easy to get miffed when a reencode fails because of the shear time involved in completing it. For that reason I have one rig a Q9550@7.4 Ghz dedicated to that purpose, another rig a Q9650@3.94 GHz which I use for many purposes, and 3 fast dual core systems for backup. I don't know how many rigs jdobbs has to test with. One has to consider that if it takes us such a long time to complete a reencode that it will probably also take jdobbs a long time. Now imagine if you are given titles of movies that failed and then have to try them yourself, make some corrections, and then retest them again and again. Now how long would that take? This isn't going to move along like it did with DVD RB simply because of the time involved in moving forward, but if were all patient I suspect that jdobbs will see thing improve over time.:thanks: For me I'm not upset at all. I'm just providing feedback for the developer. I hope my posts are not taken as any sort of aggression.

[ozmale]

Guys,
I have backed up several movies to BD-9 and played them on my Panasonic DMP-BD30 without problem.
However, Quantium of Solace will not play, but it will play on a Sony set top Bluray player.

Also if I burn the same BD-9 file set to a BD-25 it plays just fine in the panasonic.

Any ideas ? or is this some sort of a bug.

[turbojet]

Guys,
I have backed up several movies to BD-9 and played them on my Panasonic DMP-BD30 without problem.
However, Quantium of Solace will not play, but it will play on a Sony set top Bluray player.

Also if I burn the same BD-9 file set to a BD-25 it plays just fine in the panasonic.

Any ideas ? or is this some sort of a bug.

It's a known issue since 28.05. Until jdobbs fixes it all I can suggest is replacing tools/tsmuxer.exe with the one from tsmuxer 1.10.6 and enable strict AVCHD in BD-RB settings.

To fix your current output you can load the index.bdmv file in goBD (http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD-tool.exe), check set INDX 00100 and ADD ID-EX then reburn.

[ozmale]

It's a known issue since 28.05. Until jdobbs fixes it all I can suggest is replacing tools/tsmuxer.exe with the one from tsmuxer 1.10.6 and enable strict AVCHD in BD-RB settings.

To fix your current output you can load the index.bdmv file in goBD (http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD-tool.exe), check set INDX 00100 and ADD ID-EX then reburn.

Thanks heaps Turbojet. I will give that a try. However the GOBD tool link does not currently work.

[turbojet]

Thanks heaps Turbojet. I will give that a try. However the GOBD tool link does not currently work.

Welcome, I uploaded it here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?y3yydmzwznz)

[bassnut]

Alien Vs predator failed again at the same place ........... hmmmmmmm

Tried going back to BD Rebuilder 20.08 ...... used the same file, picked up where 20.09 and failed in the same palce 67% of VID_00060
strange thing is tried with 20.07 but it did not see the old build and started from scratch......... hmmmmm
I am off to bed, 4 am comes quick and this should be done by the time I get up.


- Reencoding: VID_00060 (41 of 41)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- Failed video encode, aborted

[turbojet]

leChameleon: this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283290#post1283290) may fix your VC-1 in windows 7 problem.

[setarip_old]

@bassnut

Perhaps your original disc/rip is flawed?

[bassnut]

Ripped it 3 times now today. Eyes are going blurry ........ long weekend and all. Tomorrow I'll be able to think more clearly.

@turbojet ....... will look into your suggestions tomorrow when I can see and think more clearly and don't have as much on the go.

Thanks and have a good night all.

[leChameleon]

leChameleon: this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283290#post1283290) may fix your VC-1 in windows 7 problem.Hi turbojet, thank you for pointing me to this fix. Please forgive my ignorance but how does one tell if a "VC-1" scenario exists and of the two encoders/decoders which one to choose for the right application? I have read the linked information however I'm uncertain to know how to proceed. As I am working with production machines I need to be careful and log which modifications I make to the environment and why.

FFDShow - {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}
MPCVideoDecoder - {008BAC12-FBAF-497B-9670-BC6F6FBAE2C4}


Edit 01:
I believe now I see where to locate the VC-1 information.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4628/vc1.jpg

[leChameleon]

leChameleon: this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283290#post1283290) may fix your VC-1 in windows 7 problem. I have attempted to update the following key only (not delete all keys as suggested) in the registry for Windows 7 64-bit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred\
Replace {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD} # Default
with {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7} # FDDShow

Here are the results:

[23:17:04] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: MILK
- Input BD size: 40.00 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:51.303]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[23:17:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:17:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [23:17:09] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,407 Kbs
- [23:17:09] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[23:20:12] - Failed video encode, aborted

[turbojet]

I have attempted to update the following key only (not delete all keys as suggested) in the registry for Windows 7 64-bit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred\
Replace {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD} # Default
with {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7} # FDDShow


What you are doing is changing the DVD decoder to ffdshow (if 64 bit ffdshow64 in 64 bit players).

Only use the hack7mc link to take permission of
(32bit) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred or in
(64bit) HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred

Then continue on to step 2 of Atak_Snajpera which is right click the preferred folder -> export to backup, right click the folder again and delete.

Then on to step 3 of his post.

It does work on Win7 64 and doesn't seem to affect WMP12/MCE. Some good news is I was able to fully encode a few VC-1 clips I have that crashed x264 with Vista/XP WMP11. Bad news is it didn't decode them properly and broke up into a bunch of pixels.

[pan07]

bassnut, i got the exact same problem as you on alien v predator, however i'm pretty sure i was successful first time by selecting quicker encode for extras.
will have another go when i get more time.

[leChameleon]

What you are doing is changing the DVD decoder to ffdshow (if 64 bit ffdshow64 in 64 bit players).

Only use the hack7mc link to take permission of
(32bit) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred or in
(64bit) HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred

Then continue on to step 2 of Atak_Snajpera which is right click the preferred folder -> export to backup, right click the folder again and delete.

Then on to step 3 of his post.

It does work on Win7 64 and doesn't seem to affect WMP12/MCE. Some good news is I was able to fully encode a few VC-1 clips I have that crashed x264 with Vista/XP WMP11. Bad news is it didn't decode them properly and broke up into a bunch of pixels.Hi turbojet,
I first tried only to update 2 registry keys as I'm working on a production machine. I have not yet finished analyzing what the ramifications are for deleting the "Preferred" folder and all of its contents. I need to ensure it will not affect anything to do with ensuring a failure. I wrote a PM to Atak_Snajpera asking if he knew more about what he's asked to delete. In the mean time I'm reviewing each one trying to cross reference what's going on.

To confirm what you are saying, if the "Preferred" keys are backed up then deleted BD-Rebuilder 0.20.09 will complete these "VC-1" BD DVD rips?

I do want to thank you for finding this workaround and pointing me to it. :thanks:

[leChameleon]

Sorry again for my ignorance. Where dose one make the necessary modifications requested here?
"3) change VC-1 decoder to wmv9 (FFDShow Video Decoder Configuration)"

Am I right to assume that I just need to change "disabled" to "wmv9" below?

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2926/fddshow.jpg

[hoju3508]

That's correct.

Sorry again for my ignorance. Where dose one make the necessary modifications requested here?
"3) change VC-1 decoder to wmv9 (FFDShow Video Decoder Configuration)"

Am I right to assume that I just need to change "disabled" to "wmv9" below?

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2926/fddshow.jpg

[DaMacFunkin]

hiya again damacfunkin ive just tried it again and now if you select which version of sex drive you want to see click stop then top menu the gui will pop up tried it on panasonic bd35 in living room and its working

Yes it does seem to work like that Does Jdobbs or anybody know why this happens? Its obviously a bug...

[iSeries]

Hi,

Not sure if its a bug with BD-RB or something else (x264?). I've been backing up my blu-rays (all movie-only) to BD-25, and after some experimentation when first using the program discovered that a custom target size of 24166mb (23.6gb) will consistently fill 98% of the disc (consistentlly as in 100% of the time).

However my last couple of encodes have been massively undersized, The Bourne Supremacy came out at 21.1gb, which only fills 91% of the disc, and Interview With The Vampire came out even less, only filling 90% of the disc!

Thinking it may be a problem with the latest version, I rolled back to v0.20.05 and did them again - with the exact same results.

Anyone have any ideas why all of a sudden I've got such a big undersize? Nothing has changed on my system.

Log:

[21:53:32] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: BOURNE_SUPREM_G51
- Input BD size: 31.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:31.505]
- Target BD size: 23.60 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[21:53:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:53:32] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [22:07:04] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 1)
[18:31:06]PHASE ONE complete
[18:31:06]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:31:06] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:43:37] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:43:37]JOB: BOURNE_SUPREM_G51 completed.

INI:

[Status]
LABEL=BOURNE_SUPREM_G51
VERSION=v0.20.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=34219560960
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=34219560960
TARGET_SIZE=25339887616
REDUCTION=.740508846551841
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00009]
AUDIO=01000000
PGS=0000000000000000000000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=25339887616
RATE=25000
NSIZE=21269501952
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Capsbackup]

@iSeries;
Anyone have any ideas why all of a sudden I've got such a big undersize? Nothing has changed on my system.

Perhaps encoder saturation. This does not appear to be a very long movie [01:48:31.505], so unless there is a lot of extras to fill out the disc, it undersizes. More important, how does the encode look? Filling up the disc does not mean better quality.

[bassnut]

Ok turbojet I had a chance to read the info from your threads you sent me ...... VID_00060 is MPEG2 not VC1.

http://209.91.177.82/Images/Pred1.jpg

I tried setting MIN_M2TS_SIZE=400 but since VID_00060 is part of a bigger set BD Rebuilde Ignores this setting if my reading is correct and I understand it completely.

Still not sure why it worked last time but not this time. This was the very first BD I tried to back up to BD 25 and can't remember the settings I used ...... pan07 might be right I might have used quicker encode for extras.

Ran the disk through BDINFO but didn't see anything that stood out, but then I don't really quite understand it all yet.

PRED 1.txt (http://209.91.177.82/Images/Pred1.txt)

If you have any thoughts cool if not then then I will let it be till later and try again. Either way Thanks for your help.

[leChameleon]

Thank you turbojet and hoju3508. Many of the issues I filed above have been resolved thus far with your help.

turbojet was correct in my case with "VC-1" video on Windows 7 64-bit.
I hope sometime in the future not to have to delete registry keys but for now there have been no ramifications and our production continues without interruption.

I've not yet had the chance to view the quality of the video using wmv9 however 4 of the films that were failing have successfully run through using BD-Rebuilder 0.20.09. :)

[GaPony]

This isn't the only set of issues to accompany the latest revision of Windows 7. I'm sure Microsoft has some cleanup to do before going with its official release. Hopefully the wide release of the beta will provide them adequate feedback to get a good initial release to the streets this summer...or whenever it comes. I'd rather see them get it right, than on time.

[turbojet]

bassnut: with latest ffdshow tryouts from today installed go to video decoder settings, codec page, for MPEG2 set libavcodec. If it still doesn't work can you upload 00060.m2ts to a site like mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/) and share the download link.

leChameleon: your welcome I just remembered Atak_Snapjera's post which I think will be widely used info in the future.

GaPony: in my hour or so with windows 7 I was able to make WMP12 crash 3 times, definitely some work still needs to be done. While I could probably reproduce the problem, reporting bug reports to microsoft has proven impossible to me so far and I've given up.

[iSeries]

@ Capsbackup

Before re-encoding I always use tsMuxer to mux out just the movie with the main audio track to see if it will fit on a BD-R without re-encoding - in the case of The Bourne Supremacy it came out at over 25gb and needed to be re-encoded.

I did another test last night on an episode of Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The episode is 6.5gb. I used a custom size of 5.7gb (I have already successfully re-encoded this episode previously to this exact target size). The encode came out undersized at 4.6gb. I just can't understand why this has suddenly started happening.

[bassnut]

Well just as I read your post turbojet I looked over on the other computer as Alien Vs Predator completed. Quicker Encode For Extras ........ worked, it's burning now, not sure why though. I will download the new FFDshow later when I get home from work at 1X burn it won't be done before I leave and update everything then and see if it all worked.

When I read Pan07's comments it reminded me of the 3 coasters I had when I first burnt this movie ....... didn't take me long to go out and buy a few BD RE's for testing first after that. :p Up here the olny option is the big box stores for media and there, BD R's are $9 per pop. Unless they are on sale as they are now ...... reminds me I gotta go to best buy tonight.

I can order online but duty here kills the savings though Tiger Direct has Optical Quantum disks at $148 / 25. Anyone evere heard of them? They are supposed to tag out as Ritek which is what I am using now but they don't have samples to buy and a no return policy which amkes me hesitant.

Thanks for your help.

[Furiousflea]

Well just as I read your post turbojet I looked over on the other computer as Alien Vs Predator completed. Quicker Encode For Extras ........ worked, it's burning now, not sure why though. I will download the new FFDshow later when I get home from work at 1X burn it won't be done before I leave and update everything then and see if it all worked.

When I read Pan07's comments it reminded me of the 3 coasters I had when I first burnt this movie ....... didn't take me long to go out and buy a few BD RE's for testing first after that. :p Up here the olny option is the big box stores for media and there, BD R's are $9 per pop. Unless they are on sale as they are now ...... reminds me I gotta go to best buy tonight.

I can order online but duty here kills the savings though Tiger Direct has Optical Quantum disks at $148 / 25. Anyone evere heard of them? They are supposed to tag out as Ritek which is what I am using now but they don't have samples to buy and a no return policy which amkes me hesitant.

Thanks for your help.

I've burnt around a 1000 BD-R discs mostly at friends houses until recently and never had a problem with any brand other than the odd 1\20 coaster which is to be expected. (burning at 4x)

Personally I don't believe you can go wrong with ANY brand at the moment because the price point hasn't reached such a low level that manufacturers are cutting corners in quality as well as there only being about 3? manufactuers Matsushita\Ritek...who else?

Maybe the problem lies somewhere else, like where you're storing them\sunlight\?...

[GaPony]

I've had about the same experience with BD-R media. I've only burned about 200 BD-R 25 discs, of various brands, and have yet to get a coaster. I'd just look for the best price, as they all seem to be pretty good.

[Nkotok]

@ Capsbackup

Before re-encoding I always use tsMuxer to mux out just the movie with the main audio track to see if it will fit on a BD-R without re-encoding - in the case of The Bourne Supremacy it came out at over 25gb and needed to be re-encoded.

I did another test last night on an episode of Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The episode is 6.5gb. I used a custom size of 5.7gb (I have already successfully re-encoded this episode previously to this exact target size). The encode came out undersized at 4.6gb. I just can't understand why this has suddenly started happening.

I do the same thing as you do. And I have written about this problem here. BD RB has always been inconsistent with output size. I never get the same size. Most of the time it is undersized (I get around 94% of BD25 space) and one time the output size was too big to fit on a BD25! So I guess you were juts lucky for some time to get your reencodes' sizes right. Now welcome to reality.

[iSeries]

@ Nkotok

I have a hard time believing it was just pot luck - back when I first started using BD-RB, setting target output size to BD-25 I always only got 92%-93% of the disc size. That's when I experimented and came up with the custom size of 24166mb - which without fail had filled 98% of the disc (up until now that is). I also did the same for output to DVD-9 - setting a custom target size of 8244mb filled 98% of the disc without fail.

The reason I re-encoded the Sarah Connor Episodes to weird custom sizes was to get the whole series on 2 discs rather than 3 (5 episodes on disc 1, 4 episodes on disc 2). One of the episodes that I had previously successfully hit the correct target size of 5858mb, this time came out over 1gb smaller! I believe this test rules out encoder saturation.

[Nkotok]

@ Nkotok

I have a hard time believing it was just pot luck - back when I first started using BD-RB, setting target output size to BD-25 I always only got 92%-93% of the disc size. That's when I experimented and came up with the custom size of 24166mb - which without fail had filled 98% of the disc (up until now that is). I also did the same for output to DVD-9 - setting a custom target size of 8244mb filled 98% of the disc without fail.

The reason I re-encoded the Sarah Connor Episodes to weird custom sizes was to get the whole series on 2 discs rather than 3 (5 episodes on disc 1, 4 episodes on disc 2). One of the episodes that I had previously successfully hit the correct target size of 5858mb, this time came out over 1gb smaller! I believe this test rules out encoder saturation.

When you re encode movie only, what audio option do you check? Do you keep HD Audio?

[Wolfe999]

leChameleon: this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283290#post1283290) may fix your VC-1 in windows 7 problem.

This problem was driving me nuts, till this morning that I saw this possible solution. It has DONE it. At this very moment BD is encoding a VC-1 p film when before it always aborted as soon as it came to the video. In about 6 hours I'll see the results.

Thank you again, turbojet! :)

[iSeries]

@ Nkotok

Nope, when encoding to BD-25 I've been using either DD 640kbps or DTS 1536kbps - in other words the 'core' from the hi-def stream (I've just been leaving everything unticked for DVD-9 - 448kbps)

Obviously I only use BD-RB if the movie+core audio stream remux from tsMuxer comes out at over 25gb.

I'm baffled.

[Nkotok]

@ Nkotok

Nope, when encoding to BD-25 I've been using either DD 640kbps or DTS 1536kbps - in other words the 'core' from the hi-def stream (I've just been leaving everything unticked for DVD-9 - 448kbps)

Obviously I only use BD-RB if the movie+core audio stream remux from tsMuxer comes out at over 25gb.

I'm baffled.

I see. Well, I usually try to leave hd audio untouched and it seems like that is when the problems with output size of BD RB start to occur. When you convert hd audio to something smaller, BD RB seems to do a better job outputting the right size.

[bassnut]

Well whatever the problem was with Alien Vs Predator the sollution was to select "Quick Encode For Extras" :rolleyes: I just finished watching it. Strange :rolleyes:

Thanks for your imput turbojet

[mouw]

@ Capsbackup
Before re-encoding I always use tsMuxer to mux out just the movie with the main audio track to see if it will fit on a BD-R without re-encoding - in the case of The Bourne Supremacy it came out at over 25gb and needed to be re-encoded

i always check size==
can i direct copy entire DISC ?
can i TsMuxeR and copy just MOVIE ?
if it's close== reduce THD/DTS MASTER--> CORE (smaller audio file)

but wait.... it comes out just a little over BD-R > 25.025gb
(say 25.5 or 26.0) Now What??

Newer Movies have 3-7minutes of End Credits on a 2hr movie==
(25.5/25) - 1 x 120 = 2.4 minutes
(26.0/25) - 1 x 120 = 4.8 minutes

since the CAST credits are generally 1st (or near the TOP)
i would only loose some CREDITS i rarely read anyway

Image Burn will COMPLAIN by Default (ISO too big)
press past tell it to CLOSE DISC and it always works 4me (BD-R and BD9)
learned by mistake after 12hrs of encoding Hunt for Red October--> BD9
play back on PowerDVD-8 and Sony BDP-S350

4 movie only: i been using CUSTOM SIZE = 24000--24500 (BD-R)
can use BIGGER #S when RE-encoding Audio--> 640bps
SIZING algorithm works better when it RE-encodes audio

[Tongariro]

Is anyone now how BD-RB edit the MPLS files?
Is done by external S/W or its been done by the RB it self?

If it is what are the changes ?

I tried to compere the before and after files and couldn't figure out the changes.
I am trying to solve the LPCM problem but for that i need to edit the MPLS files.

Thanks

[leChameleon]

Blu-ray Disc Title: THE BOURNE SUPREMACY (2004) PART 1 of 2

Testing code to a different extreme than I have done before.

Here I attempted to keep everything and only reduce the Video portion to fit in a BD-R 25GB disc.

Here are BD-RB's setup.
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/322/bdrebuildersetup.jpg

Here is the INF and LOG file.

[Status]
LABEL=BOURNE_SUPREM
VERSION=v0.20.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=41828731758
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=40701069312
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.564839841866806
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=50
[00010]
AUDIO=11111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=17717213363
RATE=14198
NSIZE=17562697728
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=375515504
RATE=4073
NSIZE=370759680
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00050]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=64024967
RATE=4065
NSIZE=63971328
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00056]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=121518686
RATE=2988
NSIZE=52015104
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00060]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=47880778
RATE=3321
NSIZE=48027648
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00061]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=54026813
RATE=3385
NSIZE=54177792
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00062]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=81012457
RATE=5205
NSIZE=80658432
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00064]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=89962557
RATE=4141
NSIZE=89960448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00065]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=197047949
RATE=4226
NSIZE=194598912
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00066]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=182475840
RATE=4240
NSIZE=180271104
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00067]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=146734438
RATE=4228
NSIZE=144838656
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00068]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=174091411
RATE=4229
NSIZE=171884544
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00069]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=159120209
RATE=4243
NSIZE=157132800
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00070]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=217783445
RATE=4238
NSIZE=214990848
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00071]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=248760021
RATE=4237
NSIZE=245569536
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00072]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=171433103
RATE=4247
NSIZE=169273344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00073]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=174611968
RATE=4246
NSIZE=172394496
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00074]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=171842608
RATE=4222
NSIZE=169832448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00075]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=205491373
RATE=4205
NSIZE=202930176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00077]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=254326504
RATE=6952
NSIZE=253569024
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00078]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=244956489
RATE=7163
NSIZE=243879936
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00079]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=230273328
RATE=7140
NSIZE=229705728
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00080]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=234857695
RATE=7130
NSIZE=233711616
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00081]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=293531342
RATE=7160
NSIZE=292153344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00082]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=250734665
RATE=7303
NSIZE=249366528
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00083]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=251435681
RATE=7033
NSIZE=250060800
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00084]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=278292921
RATE=7399
NSIZE=277346304
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00346]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=88737514
RATE=6784
NSIZE=86452224
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00348]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=67273239
RATE=3697
NSIZE=65906688
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00350]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=75362685
RATE=4194
NSIZE=73684992
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00351]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4365733
RATE=8146
NSIZE=4669440
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00352]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3387087
RATE=8251
NSIZE=3753984
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00353]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3633484
RATE=8251
NSIZE=3864576
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00354]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6222384
RATE=8374
NSIZE=6094848
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00355]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=5646302
RATE=8405
NSIZE=5634048
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00356]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6506955
RATE=8421
NSIZE=6469632
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00357]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=8665529
RATE=8428
NSIZE=8232960
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00358]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3352383
RATE=8162
NSIZE=3710976
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00359]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3210098
RATE=8040
NSIZE=3692544
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00360]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3335031
RATE=8242
NSIZE=3784704
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00361]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=7027511
RATE=8384
NSIZE=6586368
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00362]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6784585
RATE=8391
NSIZE=6236160
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00363]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=8148443
RATE=8464
NSIZE=7888896
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00364]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=10501358
RATE=8371
NSIZE=10174464
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00365]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=7294730
RATE=8405
NSIZE=7335936
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00366]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6146036
RATE=8335
NSIZE=6014976
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00367]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=7815287
RATE=8429
NSIZE=7409664
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00368]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=7926339
RATE=8385
NSIZE=7680000
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00369]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4893230
RATE=8400
NSIZE=4995072
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00370]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4383085
RATE=7729
NSIZE=4534272
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00371]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=10411
RATE=1172



For the life of me I can not figure out why during the last stages it fails.

Does anyone else have any clues or have they successfully back up this film before?

Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
RAM: 12GB
Processor: Intel Core i7 940

[leChameleon]

Blu-ray Disc Title: THE BOURNE SUPREMACY (2004) PART 2 of 2


-----------------------
[08:19:46] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: BOURNE_SUPREM
- Input BD size: 38.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:35:17.312]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[08:19:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:19:55] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [08:25:05] Collecting video information [00010]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 14,198 Kbs
- [08:25:05] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:41:30] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:03:05] Video Encode complete
- [14:03:05] Reencoding audio tracks
- [14:03:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:10:44] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00011]
- [14:10:51] Collecting video information [00011]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 4,073 Kbs
- [14:10:51] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:12:33] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:18:39] Video Encode complete
- [14:18:39] Reencoding audio tracks
- [14:18:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:18:43] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00050]
- [14:18:44] Collecting video information [00050]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 4,065 Kbs
- [14:18:44] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:19:21] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:20:44] Video Encode complete
- [14:20:44] Reencoding audio tracks
- [14:20:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:20:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00056]
- [14:20:45] Collecting video information [00056]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 2,988 Kbs
... (data removed to post in forum)
- [16:29:53] Reencoding: VID_00370, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:29:56] Reencoding: VID_00370, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:30:02] Video Encode complete
- [16:30:02] Reencoding audio tracks
- [16:30:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:30:03] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00371]
- [16:30:03] Collecting video information [00371]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 1,172 Kbs
- [16:30:03] Reencoding: VID_00371, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[16:30:04] - Failed video encode, aborted

[jdobbs]

Is anyone now how BD-RB edit the MPLS files?
Is done by external S/W or its been done by the RB it self?

If it is what are the changes ?

I tried to compere the before and after files and couldn't figure out the changes.
I am trying to solve the LPCM problem but for that i need to edit the MPLS files.

Thanks
It does it itself. The changes are many and are dependent up on what the original needs and what choices you make... so telling you what changes it makes would be very difficult.

[mhammer]

Known issue, no solution to my knowledge that is certain to work. I don't have one but the person posting above this post is the first I've heard of them getting 24p to work with a Panasonic BD-XX model.

Is there any news on this ?

I´ve done some research, but couldn´t find any reason why it works in RipBot264, but not in BD-RB. There is some difference in the encodes, because if try to play to Bd-Rb .264 file with mpc-hc it´s like a sildeshow playing. The Ripbot264 .264 file works fine. (mpc-hc with ffdshow H264 codec)

I tried the complete Bd-Rb H264 settings in Ripbot (Custom Profile) and it works great with my Bd35 in 24p.

But i would like to use Bd-rb, because in Ripbot there is no option for 2nd audio and kepping the hd-audio.

I know Bd-Rb works for "stef73", but there are some guys with the same problem.

Is there anything i could try ?

Thx in advance.
mhammer

[Nkotok]

Is there any news on this ?

I´ve done some research, but couldn´t find any reason why it works in RipBot264, but not in BD-RB. There is some difference in the encodes, because if try to play to Bd-Rb .264 file with mpc-hc it´s like a sildeshow playing. The Ripbot264 .264 file works fine. (mpc-hc with ffdshow H264 codec)

I tried the complete Bd-Rb H264 settings in Ripbot (Custom Profile) and it works great with my Bd35 in 24p.

But i would like to use Bd-rb, because in Ripbot there is no option for 2nd audio and kepping the hd-audio.

I know Bd-Rb works for "stef73", but there are some guys with the same problem.

Is there anything i could try ?

Thx in advance.
mhammer

Yes, something should be done about that. Why would not Panny players play reencodes with 24fp enabled? I deleted many encodes because of that at the time when I did not know what was wrong. I would burn a blank and try to play it and then there was only sound and no picture (good that I used BD-RW! :)

Need to move on to try RipBot.

[leChameleon]

Blu-ray Disc Title: THE BOURNE SUPREMACY (2004) PART 2 of 2


-----------------------
[08:19:46] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: BOURNE_SUPREM
- Input BD size: 38.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:35:17.312]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[08:19:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
...
... (data removed to post in forum)
...
- [16:30:03] Reencoding: VID_00371, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[16:30:04] - Failed video encode, aborted



Note: File 00371.m2ts in the original/master rip folder ...\BOURNE_SUPREM\BDMV\STREAM is only 18.0 KB. Could this have something to do with the reason BD-RB 0.20.09 failed?

When viewing this file there is only "black" in color, no picture/data thus one might assume it used as a filler.

[Furiousflea]

Blu-ray Disc Title: THE BOURNE SUPREMACY (2004) PART 2 of 2




Note: File 00371.m2ts in the original/master rip folder ...\BOURNE_SUPREM\BDMV\STREAM is only 18.0 KB. Could this have something to do with the reason BD-RB 0.20.09 failed?

When viewing this file there is only "black" in color, no picture/data thus one might assume it used as a filler.

1. You don't need to post the stupidly long log you posted further up the page in this thread. Use some common sense to trim the irrelevent stuff in future if you don't mind.

2. The answer to your assumption is almost definately "yes". If you send in m2ts's of around 0-1mb they can often fail due to the video in them being so small that tsmuxer doesn't treat them correctly and you get the error you are experiencing.

To correct this, look in changes.txt around the release of 0.20.03 roughly, an option was added to set the minimum m2ts size to process...

Use that and set it high enough so you don't have any problems, further to this make sure you are using "quicker encoding for extras" so you don't waste hours of time for an encode that is going to fail.

...And further again ;)

You may well experience crashes when encoding m2ts that contain both interlaced and progressive material. I believe the bourne series may well contain this type of video. If you experience this then you will have to set the min m2ts size to encode to a size high enough so BDRB doesn't touch that video.

...Or look at the solutution posted by turbojet in another thread with appropriate title. You will need TotalMedia Theatre though to get it to work properly.

There is no "free" decoder that can properly handle that material. It is not a bug. :)

[bassnut]

@leChameleon

Ran into A similar issue as you did here. Not sure if it is the exact same but follow turbojets suggetion ....... install the newest version of ffdshow tryouts (http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/) if you have not already .... see below ...... and set quick encode for extras ........ this is what worked for me with Alien Vs Predator. Mind you there is not allot of extras in that disk ....... you'll have to see how that works with your movie.

with latest ffdshow tryouts from today installed go to video decoder settings, codec page, for MPEG2 set libavcodec.

[leChameleon]

What is not apparently clear to me here "default MIN_M2TS_SIZE to default to 100MB for BD-25 encodes" is if the default size is 100MB then why is the 12KB file being submitted for encoding? Perhaps I'm not understanding this feature entirely.

BD-RB 0.20.09 CHANGES.TXT
...
March 7th, 2009 - v0.20.03
...
- Changed default MIN_M2TS_SIZE to default to 100MB for BD-25 encodes to save time. You can change the the value with MIN_M2TS_SIZE=nnnn. This has no effect on BD-5 and BD-9 encodes. It will also not affect M2TS files that are a part of the main MPLS>

[leChameleon]

Can one conclude that an "extra" is anything other than the largest *.m2ts file in the ...\BDMV\STREAM folder?
One might assume an "extra" could be trailers, etc... not a "blank" filler, at least this is what I assumed.

[bassnut]

- Changed default MIN_M2TS_SIZE to default to 100MB for BD-25 encodes to save time. You can change the the value with MIN_M2TS_SIZE=nnnn. This has no effect on BD-5 and BD-9 encodes. It will also not affect M2TS files that are a part of the main MPLS>

what that means is any file that is part of an MPLS that requires encoding ........ even if it is just 1 M2TS file of the set all M2TS files from that set get encoded regardless of the size of the MIN_M2TS_SIZE=nnnn setting. jdobbs mentioned something along this line back around page 135 or so.

[Furiousflea]

what that means is any file that is part of an MPLS that requires encoding ........ even if it is just 1 M2TS file of the set all M2TS files from that set get encoded regardless of the size of the MIN_M2TS_SIZE=nnnn setting. jdobbs mentioned something along this line back around page 135 or so.

Yeah, it's technically not very clear now since BDRB has changed to take the mpls into account. Like I said just change the min m2ts value to a lower one so it doesn't get encoded.

It's "normal".

[jdobbs]

Yes, something should be done about that. Why would not Panny players play reencodes with 24fp enabled? I deleted many encodes because of that at the time when I did not know what was wrong. I would burn a blank and try to play it and then there was only sound and no picture (good that I used BD-RW! :)

Need to move on to try RipBot.Somebody tell me what is different and what would fix it... frankly I believe the issue is the Panasonic, but it there is a workaround I'd like to hear it.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have followed your program from the initial release, as I am sure have many others, and I am grateful and impressed with its capabilities. I have made a donation as well to further assist you with its development. There have been too many to count "bug reports", some valid to the program and some due to setup issues at the user end, some due to incompatible players not capable of playing AVCHD content, etc... It has become difficult to keep up. Also, with your busy schedule, perhaps some of the more credible "bug reports" go either unoticed or are not replied to. As has been reported by others, I too enjoy trying to help develop your program, and do spend considerable time reading and testing and reporting the results, with hope to assist you with BD-RB's improvement. And of course, I do benefit from it!
However, as of late, possible due to your busy schedule and/or some overly critical posts, or potentially numerous others, this thread has not been very helpful anymore.
I would like to ask if you could inform us, perhaps in a different thread or something you only post in, as to the status of:
- bugs you have recognized and are working on.
-features to implement.
I believe your time is too valuable to respond to everyone that reports a problem, but a thread that we could quickly read and follow your progress, view if a bug has been reported, and see your status would be extremely helpful.
Thanks for this wonderful program! :thanks:

[bigcman1973]

Hey everyone, i just upgraded to the new windows 7 rc1, i beleive this was a big mistake, now bd rebuilder keeps crashing, i know this is a beta program and windows 7 is as well, but just was hoping someone has tried this to and figured out how to make it work. Thanks in advance

[Furiousflea]

@jdobbs;
I have followed your program from the initial release, as I am sure have many others, and I am grateful and impressed with its capabilities. I have made a donation as well to further assist you with its development. There have been too many to count "bug reports", some valid to the program and some due to setup issues at the user end, some due to incompatible players not capable of playing AVCHD content, etc... It has become difficult to keep up. Also, with your busy schedule, perhaps some of the more credible "bug reports" go either unoticed or are not replied to. As has been reported by others, I too enjoy trying to help develop your program, and do spend considerable time reading and testing and reporting the results, with hope to assist you with BD-RB's improvement. And of course, I do benefit from it!
However, as of late, possible due to your busy schedule and/or some overly critical posts, or potentially numerous others, this thread has not been very helpful anymore.
I would like to ask if you could inform us, perhaps in a different thread or something you only post in, as to the status of:
- bugs you have recognized and are working on.
-features to implement.
I believe your time is too valuable to respond to everyone that reports a problem, but a thread that we could quickly read and follow your progress, view if a bug has been reported, and see your status would be extremely helpful.
Thanks for this wonderful program! :thanks:

...Let's hope so. I agree with you on this 100%.

This thread has become a joke, I know that sounds blunt and rude but it has. jdobbs if you want people to keep making bug reports something has to be done. Like Capsbackup says, thanks for the program it's just the forum situation that is counterproductive and frustrating to everyone involved.

[turbojet]

Somebody tell me what is different and what would fix it... frankly I believe the issue is the Panasonic, but it there is a workaround I'd like to hear it.

The video RipBot264 produces doesn't have the issues in MPC-HC like BD-RB using .264 elementary streams does either. That said I've had no problems with 24p on a Panasonic BD30 using mkv as an elementary stream. The mkv appending issue I found awhile back has been fixed in tsmuxer. This would be my best suggestion.

Hey everyone, i just upgraded to the new windows 7 rc1, i beleive this was a big mistake, now bd rebuilder keeps crashing, i know this is a beta program and windows 7 is as well, but just was hoping someone has tried this to and figured out how to make it work. Thanks in advance

Try the Windows 7 workaround mentioned earlier in this thread and here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283215#post1283215). BD-RB is working fine for me on Windows 7 x86 and x64 after the fix. Remember you need haali and ffdshow-tryouts installed as mentioned in the first post of this thread.

Another possible reason for BD25 undersizing is I see it can only use a maximum average bitrate of 25 mbps. I think it's safe to use a max of 50 mbps at least.

[Furiousflea]

...

Another possible reason for BD25 undersizing is I see it can only use a maximum average bitrate of 25 mbps. I think it's safe to use a max of 50 mbps at least.

50mbps would be out of spec though wouldn't it?

I have an import of Akira that uses 192khz 5.1 TrueHD track that is 12GB in size. Along with an English TrueHD track + PCM audio...This coupled with a 50mbps peak video bitrate would surely cause serious stuttering in places on certain SAD players...I'm guessing but prolly abit risky?

I don't really know though, what's your view?

I can't see something like 35mbps being a problem and would surely be the "optimal" or thereabouts maximum...Can't imagine any source needing anything higher than that at 1920x1080. 25mbps on the other hand could in rare circumstances not quite be enough in my experience.

[turbojet]

BD spec max is 50 mbps video bitrate, 62.5 mbps total bitrate as far as I know.

I've seen some retail BD's up around 45 mbps video bitrate but you are right it might be better off to play it a little safer and take the undersize.

I know x264 doesn't really even need 25 mbps average in most cases but major sizing issues will always be seen as a bug as long as you are able to set a target size.

[jdobbs]

...Let's hope so. I agree with you on this 100%.

This thread has become a joke, I know that sounds blunt and rude but it has. jdobbs if you want people to keep making bug reports something has to be done. Like Capsbackup says, thanks for the program it's just the forum situation that is counterproductive and frustrating to everyone involved. Check your attitude at the door. You're right -- you are being blunt and rude.

I have been very busy making a living -- high pressure and short timelines in my real job. If you don't like it, then suggest a way to feed my family on the less-than-mcdonalds money I make on donations. Otherwise keep your comments to yourself.

Is that a blunt and rude enough answer for you? If not I can return to the first comment I made and edited out...

I had no idea I'd be this busy when I started this project -- but I have to do what I have to do, and if BD Rebuilder suffers, well I have to eat. I can tell you this, though, making rude comments and demands on a free software program is competely unacceptable and will only result in less attention.

As for the thread... go back through the last 30 pages or so and see how many bugs are actually reported. There is so much commentary (like your post) that its hard to find a bug report -- especially when you only have time to come and read them occasionally.

BTW. Here is a quote from the first post of this thread that I wrote back in December:

If you decide to download and test -- please post any errors you find in this thread. Don't push bug resolution or keep asking for a fix. I will get to the reported bugs, but only when I can find the time.

Was that not honest and clear? I guess it was just as clear as this quote from the first post:Please do not post any non-bug-related messages in this thread. I'd like to reserve it for bug reports only. If you want to start a "I wish" or "let's debate something" discussion, let's put it somewhere else, ok?

[Furiousflea]

You got the wrong end of the stick, again!!!

This is to help YOU, nobody else. christ...I give up.

You want it so when you do get a chance to work on BDRB that you have a nice streamlined collection of bugs to work on and not trawl through page upon page, potentially missing importants ones.

This thread has become far too rotten to ever save.

Make a delete this abomination, make a few new sticky threads.

1. General discussion, for people who need help etc

2. Genuine bug reports set out in a clear and concise way following a template you can set in the op.

3. Feature requests

Suspensions for people who violate\etc. Like myself. Simple.

I can't fathom your attitude towards my comments of them being rude in the way you seem to have taken them. Only reason I mentioned it is because you seem to be very caught up in your real job at the moment. It wasn't a complaint. The miscommunication of the internet in all it's glory. OK might not be my place to say...and none of my business but it's quite a common setup.

Feel free to ignore, just a suggestion. :(

[Jake802]

Hi! I wish my donation could be more,but unfortunately I have a McDonalds-like budget to live off of. I think you guys all do a great job,for THE MOST PART,of right and wrong.I do think EVERYONE here needs to realize he does this of his own accord and I don't feel he ignores anyone.I work 2 jobs from 730am-10 sometimes 11pm. I think everyone has to realize JDobbs takes it all in and tackles rough one when he can and easier when time allows..and just post and try to be patient.I mean usually when he post a NEW VERSION,HE DOES POST WHAT HE FIXED OR ATTEMPTED TO FIX. Just leave it at that. I like all of you have got frustrated at points but i realize the time constraints of one man and try not to take it out on JD.Rather post my experience or issues with the programs and at times look to others like you Furious,Turbo,etc for suggestions when JD cant help. You're all great and help a great deal,just take too much TOO Personal in my own opinion.Alright Ill step off my Soap Box and thank JD again!

[jdobbs]

Hi! I wish my donation could be more,but unfortunately I have a McDonalds-like budget to live off of. I think you guys all do a great job,for THE MOST PART,of right and wrong.I do think EVERYONE here needs to realize he does this of his own accord and I don't feel he ignores anyone.I work 2 jobs from 730am-10 sometimes 11pm. I think everyone has to realize JDobbs takes it all in and tackles rough one when he can and easier when time allows..and just post and try to be patient.I mean usually when he post a NEW VERSION,HE DOES POST WHAT HE FIXED OR ATTEMPTED TO FIX. Just leave it at that. I like all of you have got frustrated at points but i realize the time constraints of one man and try not to take it out on JD.Rather post my experience or issues with the programs and at times look to others like you Furious,Turbo,etc for suggestions when JD cant help. You're all great and help a great deal,just take too much TOO Personal in my own opinion.Alright Ill step off my Soap Box and thank JD again!
You make a really good point. While I may write the code and post changes, I'm not the only person helping/working on BD-RB. The people who find bugs and post help for others are working it as well. We all are volunteering our time here -- and I appreciate everyone's input very much.

[drmih]

I still believe that if you were to close this thread, start a new one with your input at the top, followed by another containing the 'state of play' by furious, turbo etc that the very few actual bugs would be identified straight away. Along with some of the work arounds it would be a thread containing everything anyone needs to know.

[Lif3styl3]

hi jdobbs,

i can't answer the question regarding the difference between 24p playback with panasonic players and other ones.

The only thing i can tell you is, that a bd which runs through tsmuxer works finde with 24p enabled in my panasonic bd-55.

With your software i've got still the same problem.

By the way a working dts-hd encondung would be nice,too. Tried to report this several times but nothing happend,...

Hope u continue your great work until this point.
Now DVD Fab has a BluRay encoding functions, which results in playback witout movie an sound, ......

So BD Rebuilder is my choice ;-)

by the way:
if you like, i would install a bugzilla on my server to create specific bug reports which could be selected and filtered to get a overview which problems are the biggest ones and whats the best way to solve them,...

we are using this tool in our company,..., it's freeware

[jdobbs]

I still believe that if you were to close this thread, start a new one with your input at the top, followed by another containing the 'state of play' by furious, turbo etc that the very few actual bugs would be identified straight away. Along with some of the work arounds it would be a thread containing everything anyone needs to know. If people ignored the instructions on this thread, is it really likely that they will suddenly decide to "follow the rules" just because I start a new thread? The is an old saying "The definition of insanity is when you do the exact same thing -- and expect a different outcome."

[jdobbs]

hi jdobbs,

i can't answer the question regarding the difference between 24p playback with panasonic players and other ones.

The only thing i can tell you is, that a bd which runs through tsmuxer works finde with 24p enabled in my panasonic bd-55.

With your software i've got still the same problem.

By the way a working dts-hd encondung would be nice,too. Tried to report this several times but nothing happend,...

Hope u continue your great work until this point.
Now DVD Fab has a BluRay encoding functions, which results in playback witout movie an sound, ......

So BD Rebuilder is my choice ;-)

by the way:
if you like, i would install a bugzilla on my server to create specific bug reports which could be selected and filtered to get a overview which problems are the biggest ones and whats the best way to solve them,...

we are using this tool in our company,..., it's freeware That's confusing as hell... since both of the software packages use TSMUXER to do the muxing... I can't imagine what setting could be changed that would cause it work.

[jdobbs]

By the way a working dts-hd encondung would be nice,too. Tried to report this several times but nothing happend,... Please explain. Right now you should be able to keep DTS-HD if you are encoding to BD-25. If not, the issue is size -- if you kept HD audio on BD-9 the picture would suffer terribly.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbsIf people ignored the instructions on this thread, is it really likely that they will suddenly decide to "follow the rules" just because I start a new thread?Just as they've successfully done in preventing "key requests" in some of the "Decrypting" threads, I'm sure that one or two of the more aggressive moderators could see to it that posters to your "bugs only" thread abide by your wishes...

[drmih]

I have just had a quirky problem which I can't remember seeing anywhere. I did the Mummy 3 and everything went okay. The disc is fine in a pc, but on my Sony 550, although the extras are fine, if I try and play the movie, or go to a scene, the player shuts down.
Obviously nothing in the way of a log as it seems fine but just not seen anything like this (I made two burns to check against a dodgy disc).

[jdobbs]

I posted an update for BD Rebuilder in the first post of this thread. Summary of changes:
- Added code to take advantage of PGS (sub) resizing
now included in TSMUXER for 1280x720 resizing.
- Fixed an error in which PGS (sub) adjustments were
not being made when doing movie-only reencoding.
- Corrected an error in which LPCM files were not
being retained correctly when selecting "Keep HD
Audio for BD25". It still needs some testing, but
should work correctly now.
- Corrected a problem in which multi-part LPCM files
were not being reintegrated properly into Movie-Only
encodes to BD-25.
- Removed BDREBUILDER.INI from installation .ZIP. It
prevents accidental overwriting when updating.
- Updated X264 to version (r1153)
- Updated TSMUXER to latest release (v1.10.6). Note:
This version and later REQUIRES TSMUXER v1.10.6 or
higher due to use of new features.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[rack04]

Yes, something should be done about that. Why would not Panny players play reencodes with 24fp enabled? I deleted many encodes because of that at the time when I did not know what was wrong. I would burn a blank and try to play it and then there was only sound and no picture (good that I used BD-RW! :)

Need to move on to try RipBot.

Is the issue with playback to a 24p device or something in the encoding? If I understand correctly if the Panasonic is set to output 24p to a 24p device a disc authored by BD-Rebuilder will not play. I wish I could test but my Samsung HL-6187W won't accept 24p.

[jdobbs]

Is the issue with playback to a 24p device or something in the encoding? If I understand correctly if the Panasonic is set to output 24p to a 24p device a disc authored by BD-Rebuilder will not play. I wish I could test but my Samsung HL-6187W won't accept 24p.
My suggestion: advise people not to buy the Panasonic. That's the only way to force them to create a compliant player.

If someone could point out what needs to change, I would happily modify BD-RB for a workaround -- but not owning a Panasonic player, I have no way of knowing what to change.

[Nkotok]

My suggestion: advise people not to buy the Panasonic. That's the only way to force them to create a compliant player.

If someone could point out what needs to change, I would happily modify BD-RB for a workaround -- but not owning a Panasonic player, I have no way of knowing what to change.

Well, they say RipBot's encodes play on Panasonic's players in 24p mode just fine. So RipBot reencodes somehow different, I guess.
I tried RipBot the other day and I there are things I liked and did not like (the same as with BD Rebuilder) - and wish one program would exist that would have good things from both RipBot and BD Rebuilder.

What I liked about Ripbot is it reencodes in a way that the result can be played in 24p on Pannys (I noticed that both passes in Ripbot took long time, while 1st pass in Bd RB does not take much time) and the final size is spot on (makes exactly 100% of a BD25 and not 94 or 96% as it is the case with BD RB most of the time).

What I did not like in RipBot is that it still does not have an option to keep HD Audio track, which is very very bad (and I would guess to add this option would not be that hard).

So if I had to choose between two now: for movies for which I don't care to keep hd audio I would defensively choose Ripbot.

But I got used to BD Rebuilder. Only if there was a way to improve the reencoding process to get output size spot on all the time and get the result to play in 24p on Pannys, that would be great.

[jdobbs]

Try setting "Stricter AVCHD compliance" in the SETUP screen of BD-RB.

[Nkotok]

Try setting "Stricter AVCHD compliance" in the SETUP screen of BD-RB.

I always tried to find out what this option was for and if I should check it if I try to create a blu-ray structure to burn on a BD25 and play on a stand alone. I never got a clear answer but understood that it was not supposed be checked for bd25s that one wants to play on stand alone players?
I will try it now though.

[Furiousflea]

I posted an update for BD Rebuilder in the first post of this thread. Summary of changes:
- Added code to take advantage of PGS (sub) resizing
now included in TSMUXER for 1280x720 resizing.
- Fixed an error in which PGS (sub) adjustments were
not being made when doing movie-only reencoding.
- Corrected an error in which LPCM files were not
being retained correctly when selecting "Keep HD
Audio for BD25". It still needs some testing, but
should work correctly now.
- Corrected a problem in which multi-part LPCM files
were not being reintegrated properly into Movie-Only
encodes to BD-25.
- Removed BDREBUILDER.INI from installation .ZIP. It
prevents accidental overwriting when updating.
- Updated X264 to version (r1153)
- Updated TSMUXER to latest release (v1.10.6). Note:
This version and later REQUIRES TSMUXER v1.10.6 or
higher due to use of new features.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Thanks for the update.

May I ask if this means that retention of LPCM is now supported for the whole movie where the LPCM audio is larger than 4GB?

Cheers

[turbojet]

Thanks for the new version especially sup resize support and no .ini for easier updating.

I see that the playability issue that have been brought up by many still exist since movie only is still using --bluray if you are confused on the matter see this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1286079#post1286079) which should revert it back to how movie only was before the tsmuxer update and allow more software (hardware?) players to play both movie only and full backups.

I also found a few new bugs:
- DTS gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- AC3 gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- HD audio gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- while its really a tsmuxer bug which they know about and are fixing, BD-RB can work around keeping resized sups most original by using: bottom-offset=0,font-border=0

Also a few requests that should be fairly simple but they affect quite a few peoples usability:
- like DVD-RB by default don't deinterlace (deinterlace as option?) and use x264.exe --tff to keep the motion smooth, retain all the video data (fielddeinterlace removes half the lines) and interlaced compresses better.
- increase max bitrate to prevent major undersize. 25 mbps with DVD has been very well tested successfully with RipBot264, BD should support 50 mbps video bitrate but maybe play it safe with 40 mbps
- use mkv as default x264 output and have 264_INTERMEDIATE ini option since 264 has issues with some software players and very well could be the reason for the Panasonic 24p issue

Any chance of any of these in a not so distant future version?

[Bundy00]

Is the issue with playback to a 24p device or something in the encoding? If I understand correctly if the Panasonic is set to output 24p to a 24p device a disc authored by BD-Rebuilder will not play. I wish I could test but my Samsung HL-6187W won't accept 24p.

I did not find time to test so far - but has anyone checked the 24p/BD-RB issue with Panasonic's latest 1.5 firmware (out for a week now)??

[Nkotok]

I did not find time to test so far - but has anyone checked the 24p/BD-RB issue with Panasonic's latest 1.5 firmware (out for a week now)??

You are talking like there is only one model of Panasonic players and only one version of FW. What 1.5. are you talking about? BD30, for example, is on 2.8 now.

[Nkotok]

I also found a few new bugs:
- DTS gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- AC3 gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- HD audio gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- while its really a tsmuxer bug which they know about and are fixing, BD-RB can work around keeping resized sups most original by using: bottom-offset=0,font-border=0


Are these bugs that happen from time to time? Because when I keep HD audio, it always stays HD.

EDIT: Nevermind, I was thinking you still meant the previous release. Did not notice there is a new one out today!

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the update.

May I ask if this means that retention of LPCM is now supported for the whole movie where the LPCM audio is larger than 4GB?

CheersYes. I tested it on one last night and it worked correctly.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the new version especially sup resize support and no .ini for easier updating.

I see that the playability issue that have been brought up by many still exist since movie only is still using --bluray if you are confused on the matter see this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1286079#post1286079) which should revert it back to how movie only was before the tsmuxer update and allow more software (hardware?) players to play both movie only and full backups.

I also found a few new bugs:
- DTS gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- AC3 gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- HD audio gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- while its really a tsmuxer bug which they know about and are fixing, BD-RB can work around keeping resized sups most original by using: bottom-offset=0,font-border=0

Also a few requests that should be fairly simple but they affect quite a few peoples usability:
- like DVD-RB by default don't deinterlace (deinterlace as option?) and use x264.exe --tff to keep the motion smooth, retain all the video data (fielddeinterlace removes half the lines) and interlaced compresses better.
- increase max bitrate to prevent major undersize. 25 mbps with DVD has been very well tested successfully with RipBot264, BD should support 50 mbps video bitrate but maybe play it safe with 40 mbps
- use mkv as default x264 output and have 264_INTERMEDIATE ini option since 264 has issues with some software players and very well could be the reason for the Panasonic 24p issue

Any chance of any of these in a not so distant future version? I'll look at the audio retention bugs, I may have hacked something up when I added the LPCM code. You did test it with BD-25 output, right? HD isn't supposed to be retained with BD-9/5.

I'm not sure what you mean with the sups -- the ones I tested at 1280x720 look perfect.

As for the bitrate -- you're way to high. Even though the BD spec allows video bitrates up to 40Mbs (on BD media), it also has a maximum bitrate of 48Mbs for all streams combined. If you retain a couple of HD audio streams along with the video you'll bust the spec very easily. 25Mbs is plenty of bitrate for HD/AVC. As for BD-9 -- I really don't care what has been tested -- the spec doesn't allow 25Mbs, and I won't support it. I don't need any more incompatibilities floating around, the player spectrum is non-standard enough as it is.

As for using MKV instead of 264 -- there are some very severe problems imposed when I do that (if I recall correctly, multipart sources won't work anymore). It seems the only player with issues related to that is the Panasonic... which, as I've said, should be fixed by Panasonic, not BD-RB. When every other brand works correctly it make it pretty clear where the issue is.

[jdobbs]

I also found a few new bugs:
- DTS gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- AC3 gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not to
- HD audio gets converted to AC3 even if its checked not toAre you sure you have your setup right? I just tried a DTS source and it worked correctly and did not convert it to AC3 when it was checked.

[Update] Same thing with AC3. It worked like it was supposed to.

[Update] Ok. I have done several of them now and they all work correctly... I have to assume you were mistaken.

[MikeyBK]

For movie only back-ups played back on PS3s, you still need to set the 'Stricter AVC-HD Compliance' in order for proper playback in PS3s....
either setting back-ups plays perfectly fine on my Sony BDP-BX1.

This is in reference to BD-RB v0.21.01

[turbojet]

I'll look at the audio retention bugs, I must have hacked something up when I added the LPCM code. You did test it with BD-25 output, right? HD isn't supposed to be retained with BD-9/5.

Yes however it could very well be the very short source I'm using to test. I'm using a 1 minute clip with DTS-HD, TrueHD, and 640 kbps AC3 and target output set to BD25. All audio gets encoded to 448 or 640 kbps depending on 'use 640 kbps for encoding AC3' which is the only audio option that has any effect in this case. I've tested it on x64 versions or win7/vista/xp. However v20.09 and 20.05 show the same behavior but I remember being able to keep DTS and AC3 without encoding. I'm thinking it might be something to do with the size of the source. Can you shine any light on this?

As for the bitrate -- you're way to high. Even though the BD spec allows video bitrates up to 40Mbs (on BD media), it also has a maximum bitrate of 48Mbs for all streams combined. If you retain a couple of HD audio streams along with the video you'll bust the spec very easily. 25Mbs is plenty of bitrate for HD/AVC. As for BD-9 -- I really don't care what has been tested -- the spec doesn't allow 25Mbs, and I won't support it. I don't need any more incompatibilities floating around, the player spectrum is non-standard enought as it is.

Oh I thought I read somewhere BD spec is 50 mbps video, 62.5 mbps combined. It's not that x264 really needs more than 25 mbps bitrate but it will prevent people from reporting major undrersize as a bug. As we already know how close BD players handle the AVCHD spec I think testing is the only real way to go as much of a hassle as it sounds.

As for using MKV instead of 264 -- there are some very severe problems imposed when I do that (if I recall correctly, multipart sources won't work anymore). It seems the only player with issues related to that is the Panasonic... which, as I've said, should be fixed by Panasonic, not BD-RB. When every other brand works correctly it make it pretty clear where the issue is.

Ya I reported that issue with mkv appending but I did the same problematic seamless branching BD and another one within the past month and it worked fine. While it's not in the changelog tsmuxer must have fixed the issue. You can also add MPC and Arcsoft TMT2/TME players to the list of players that won't play BD-RB output correctly. I think the issue goes beyond the x264 .264 output as RipBot264 uses .264 output and it works fine for all these players. But using mkv output with BD-RB fixex MPC and Arcsoft with panasonic yet TBD but I've never had an issue with Panasonic BD30 and 24p using mkv or RipBot264 output.

[bassnut]

Thanks for the update Jdobbs ........ Much aprieciated. Will give it a run tonight and see how it handles the LPCM which is what I ahve been waiting for. I can't do it today but a donation will be forth coming soon as I can get around to it these 16 hour days tend to eat up allot of my time ....... what I need is about another 6 hours added to the day to get caught up.

[jdobbs]

Yes however it could very well be the very short source I'm using to test. I'm using a 1 minute clip with DTS-HD, TrueHD, and 640 kbps AC3 and target output set to BD25. All audio gets encoded to 448 or 640 kbps depending on 'use 640 kbps for encoding AC3' which is the only audio option that has any effect in this case. I've tested it on x64 versions or win7/vista/xp. However v20.09 and 20.05 show the same behavior but I remember being able to keep DTS and AC3 without encoding. I'm thinking it might be something to do with the size of the source. Can you shine any light on this? Hmmm... I can't think of a reason why size would make it act differently. I'll create some short test clips and see what it does.

[turbojet]

Hmmm... I can't think of a reason why size would make it act differently. I'll create some short test clips and see what it does.

OK thanks. I'm running a full length movie encode right now to see if it works.

Do you still need the pictures from my previous post concerning the sups? Feel free to remove the links if you don't.

Also found a bug when extracting streams from Slumdog Millionaire region A in movie only mode keeping DTS-HD and 3 subs, stripping 3x AC3 audio
[19:00:25] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

It works OK with v0.20.09

[jdobbs]

OK thanks. I'm running a full length movie encode right now to see if it works.

Do you still need the pictures from my previous post concerning the sups? Feel free to remove the links if you don't.

Also found a bug when extracting streams from Slumdog Millionaire region A in movie only mode keeping DTS-HD and 3 subs, stripping 3x AC3 audio
[19:00:25] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

It works OK with v0.20.09 No. I see what you mean. I've changed the settings for the next release.

I have Slumdog Millionaire and have backed it up successfully in the past -- I'll do it again. The only thing I could think of is that it might be the newer TSMUXER.

How long does it take before it hits the error? It seems to be extracting the audio fine on my system.

[Furiousflea]

I'll look at the audio retention bugs, I may have hacked something up when I added the LPCM code. You did test it with BD-25 output, right? HD isn't supposed to be retained with BD-9/5.

I'm not sure what you mean with the sups -- the ones I tested at 1280x720 look perfect.

As for the bitrate -- you're way to high. Even though the BD spec allows video bitrates up to 40Mbs (on BD media), it also has a maximum bitrate of 48Mbs for all streams combined. If you retain a couple of HD audio streams along with the video you'll bust the spec very easily. 25Mbs is plenty of bitrate for HD/AVC. As for BD-9 -- I really don't care what has been tested -- the spec doesn't allow 25Mbs, and I won't support it. I don't need any more incompatibilities floating around, the player spectrum is non-standard enough as it is.

As for using MKV instead of 264 -- there are some very severe problems imposed when I do that (if I recall correctly, multipart sources won't work anymore). It seems the only player with issues related to that is the Panasonic... which, as I've said, should be fixed by Panasonic, not BD-RB. When every other brand works correctly it make it pretty clear where the issue is.

You didn't give your view on retaining the interlaced nature of the source video. :) Apparently BDRB as it is goes against the spec in that regards (29.97p video after encoding not part of standard)

[Furiousflea]

Yes. I tested it on one last night and it worked correctly.

If so....

LEGEND!!!! :)

[turbojet]

No. I see what you mean. I've changed the settings for the next release.

I have Slumdog Millionaire and have backed it up successfully in the past -- I'll do it again. The only thing I could think of is that it might be the newer TSMUXER.

OK thanks, I removed the images.

How long does it take before it hits the error? It seems to be extracting the audio fine on my system.

1% in but I've narrowed it down to a tsmuxer issue when resizing the subs. I reported the issue in the tsmuxer thread. Without resizing everything goes as normal.

Also the full movie encode finished and it kept DTS audio. However does the reencoding audio tracks message need to be in the log in this case?

- [04:04:10] Video Encode complete
- [04:04:10] Reencoding audio tracks
- [04:04:10] Multiplexing M2TS

There also seems to be a bug catching x264 status. It's reproducable by starting an x264 encode in any program. While it's running start a BD-Rebuilder encode and when it starts encoding video it will pickup the progress and speed of the first x264 process. Any chance for a fix by locking to PID or something?

[stef73]

I did not find time to test so far - but has anyone checked the 24p/BD-RB issue with Panasonic's latest 1.5 firmware (out for a week now)??

bundy as ive said before its working on my bd 35 perfectly well with 24p on ive done over 500 blurays and theyve almost all worked but i always tick the stricter avchd, im using a samsung led tv which is brand new got a ps3 60gb that played my backups since november 2007 that suddenly stopped working sp bought panasonic and samsung bdp 1500 which has up to yet played everything too

[Nkotok]

Can anybody tell me what is the benefit of not checking "Stricter AVCHD compliance"? Does it take less time if you don't check it?
I never checked it as I was told not to and as result my reencodes don't play in 24p on Panasonic. Somebody here said that he checked it and the result played fine in 24p.

So why couldn't the option be checked by default, so most people get better results and those who really don't need it, could uncheck it. Or a good explanation about the purpose of this option would be nice (in some .txt file or something).

[Bundy00]

You are talking like there is only one model of Panasonic players and only one version of FW. What 1.5. are you talking about? BD30, for example, is on 2.8 now.

Sorry! You're right. :o
I meant 1.5 for BD35 (the european version).

[Lif3styl3]

Sorry! You're right. :o
I meant 1.5 for BD35 (the european version).

i've tested the new 1.5 on my bd-55.

Git the same 24p problem.

Know i will give it a try with strict avcd enabled.

Please explain. Right now you should be able to keep DTS-HD if you are encoding to BD-25. If not, the issue is size -- if you kept HD audio on BD-9 the picture would suffer terribly.

i started reencoding of transporter 3 trying to get the hd audio.
WIll report the result tomorrow.

That's confusing as hell... since both of the software packages use TSMUXER to do the muxing... I can't imagine what setting could be changed that would cause it work.

regarding to the 24p issue on my panasonic, this meta informations are creating a working 24p bd disk through tsmuxxer,..
if u would tell me the meta file ypu are using to create an output via tsmuxxer, i will try these settings with tsmuxxer and would report my results on my bd-55

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:08:03.250;00:17:15.166;00:24:33.250;00:41:44.416;00:48:54.541;01:06:40.458;01:20:40.833;01:33:51.166 --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00054.m2ts"+"C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=24, track=4113, mplsFile=00009
A_DTS, "C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00054.m2ts"+"C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4352, lang=deu, mplsFile=00009
#A_DTS, "C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00054.m2ts"+"C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng, mplsFile=00009
#A_DTS, "C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00054.m2ts"+"C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4354, lang=eng, mplsFile=00009
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00054.m2ts"+"C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=24, track=4608, lang=deu, mplsFile=00009
#S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00054.m2ts"+"C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=24, track=4609, lang=eng, mplsFile=00009
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00054.m2ts"+"C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=24, track=4610, lang=deu, mplsFile=00009
#S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00054.m2ts"+"C:\Users\Lifestyle\Documents\DVDFab\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=24, track=4611, lang=eng, mplsFile=00009

[GaPony]

Can anybody tell me what is the benefit of not checking "Stricter AVCHD compliance"? Does it take less time if you don't check it?
I never checked it as I was told not to and as result my reencodes don't play in 24p on Panasonic. Somebody here said that he checked it and the result played fine in 24p.

So why couldn't the option be checked by default, so most people get better results and those who really don't need it, could uncheck it. Or a good explanation about the purpose of this option would be nice (in some .txt file or something).

I ALWAYS check the block for "stricter compliance..." for my movie only copies to BD9 and they ALWAYS playback in 24p mode on my PS3, Sony 550, and Samsung BD-P2500 players. This setting has no effect on Full Movie Copies, which is fine with me, as I only put those on BD25 discs.

For movie only copies, I can see no benefit to not checking the box, but it depends on the brand/model SAP you're using. Since you're not having any success up to now, there certainly isn't any downside to at least trying a copy with that option checked (enabled).

[jdobbs]

There also seems to be a bug catching x264 status. It's reproducable by starting an x264 encode in any program. While it's running start a BD-Rebuilder encode and when it starts encoding video it will pickup the progress and speed of the first x264 process. Any chance for a fix by locking to PID or something? Really? Interesting. I'll fix it.

[jdobbs]

Can anybody tell me what is the benefit of not checking "Stricter AVCHD compliance"? Does it take less time if you don't check it?
I never checked it as I was told not to and as result my reencodes don't play in 24p on Panasonic. Somebody here said that he checked it and the result played fine in 24p.

So why couldn't the option be checked by default, so most people get better results and those who really don't need it, could uncheck it. Or a good explanation about the purpose of this option would be nice (in some .txt file or something). It's really no big deal. In earlier versions of BD-RB this would remove certain directories created by the TSMUXER --blu-ray option. Now it uses the --AVCHD option when it writes movie-only, and TSMUXER does the directory adjustment. Check it if you have a Panasonic.

[Furiousflea]

Just to confirm, LPCM audio retention seems to be working fine on 2 discs I tried (Hellboy\POTC1)

So now ALL HD Audio formats are working :)

[jdobbs]

There also seems to be a bug catching x264 status. It's reproducable by starting an x264 encode in any program. While it's running start a BD-Rebuilder encode and when it starts encoding video it will pickup the progress and speed of the first x264 process. Any chance for a fix by locking to PID or something?Ok I fixed it. I can't for the life of me remember why I didn't originally grab the window handle using the PID instead of the caption. But I'm doing it by PID now and it is working... It'll be posted in the next release.

[jdobbs]

Just to confirm, LPCM audio retention seems to be working fine on 2 discs I tried (Hellboy\POTC1)

So now ALL HD Audio formats are working :)Every now and then I do something right... ;)

[tekmobile]

Just to confirm, LPCM audio retention seems to be working fine on 2 discs I tried (Hellboy\POTC1)

So now ALL HD Audio formats are working :)

Good to know im just doing Tenacious D: The Complete Masterworks Vol2 for about the 5th titme now lol

This is the only disc I have thats giving my SONY BDP-S350 any trouble because on every encode I do it locks my player up in the exact same place mere seconds into the main feature.

Ive tried Movie Only to DVD9, Movie Only to BD25 and full disc to BD25 everyone locks up in the exact same place tried on 3 different versions of BD-RB Re Ripped the disc about 3 times using different versions of AnyDVD HD just cannot figure out whats causing it its been encoded with different versions of x264 and TsMuxer but this time im using the latest tryouts of ffdshow if this does the same I will try RipBot and see if thats the same the original plays perfect both from the disc and decrypted and burned to a BD-RE 50.

All the discs play start to finish like they should in Total Media Theatre its got me stumped and that takes some doing lol.

Ill let you all know how it turns out but I have a feeling it will be the same as all the others.

The source on this disc is only 720p but that shouldn't make a difference.

[Capsbackup]

Every now and then I do something right... ;)

Well since your on a roll, maybe you could venture in to the 1080i VC-1 problem that I and others have mentioned in this thread and it's own thread within DVD-RB. ;)
Anyway, congrats on the latest fixes and new release! I am now testing Casino Royale, NTSC, which has a LPCM audio. :thanks:

[tekmobile]

Well since your on a roll, maybe you could venture in to the 1080i VC-1 problem that I and others have mentioned in this thread and it's own thread within DVD-RB. ;)
Anyway, congrats on the latest fixes and new release! I am now testing Casino Royale, NTSC, which has a LPCM audio. :thanks:

The 1080i VC-1 problem is not really a BD-RB bug its decoder issue all that can be done for now is workarounds.

For me the best option would be to just ignore them and automaticly copy them over no matter what there size.

[jdobbs]

The 1080i VC-1 problem is not really a BD-RB bug its decoder issue all that can be done for now is workarounds.

For me the best option would be to just ignore them and automaticly copy them over no matter what there size. I can do that for BD-25 (first I have to find a way to identify them with a quick scan), but the bitrate is too high and will freeze a BD-9. But VC-1 is only an issue with mixed (hybrid) interlaced/progressive -- as I've had no problem at all with straight interlaced or progressive using WMP11 codecs. I did see that Windows 7 was having issues without the registry patches -- but I'm not even close to worrying about Windows 7 yet.

I may go back remove the defaulted deinterlacing as suggested (or add a hidden option). I need to see how it looks at playback.

[tekmobile]

I can do that for BD-25 (first I have to find a way to identify them with a quick scan), but the bitrate is too high and will freeze a BD-9. But VC-1 is only an issue with mixed (hybrid) interlaced/progressive -- as I've had no problem at all with straight interlaced or progressive using WMP11 codecs. I did see that Windows 7 was having issues without the registry patches -- but I'm not even close to worrying about Windows 7 yet.

I may go back remove the defaulted deinterlacing as suggested (or add a hidden option). I need to see how it looks at playback.

There normally pretty small files usually only used in the extras anyway so its not like it would waste much space and in my experience a full BD compressed to BD-9 looks pretty awful 99% of the time the only real exeption is animation.

Personally I would only allow Full backups to BD-25 and movie only to BD5/9/25

[Lif3styl3]

Hi Jdobbs,
as i told you i have started reenconding of transporter 3.
Again i've got only Dolby Digital.

Info;
-----------------------
[19:41:39] BD Rebuilder v0.21.01 (beta)
- Source: TRANSPORTER_3_BD
- Input BD size: 28,48 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:51.583]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19:41:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:41:39] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00054]
- [19:49:48] Reencoding: VID_00054 (1 of 2)
- [19:59:22] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [19:59:22] Reencoding: VID_00000 (2 of 2)
[04:30:30]PHASE ONE complete
[04:30:30]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [04:30:30] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[04:47:12] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[04:47:12]JOB: TRANSPORTER_3_BD completed.

Log:
[Status]
LABEL=TRANSPORTER_3_BD
VERSION=v0.21.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30581772288
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30581772288
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.788615119257277
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ger;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=2
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00054]
AUDIO=000
PGS=1000
M2TS_TARGET=53719301
RATE=16369
NSIZE=40495104
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00000]
M2TS_TARGET=24063528699
RATE=25000
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=20279654400
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Settings:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ger;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DOCUMENTS\DVDFAB\ISO\TRANSPORTER_3_BD\
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\TRANSPORTER_3_BD_2\


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:08:03.250;00:17:15.166;00:24:33.250;00:41:44.416;00:48:54.541;01:06:40.458;01:20:40.833;01:33:51.166 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\TRANSPORTER_3_BD_2\WORKFILES\VID_00054.AVS.264"+"C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\TRANSPORTER_3_BD_2\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264", fps=24, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\TRANSPORTER_3_BD_2\WORKFILES\AUD_00054_4352.AC3", lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\TRANSPORTER_3_BD_2\WORKFILES\00054.track_4608.SUP",fps=24,lang=deu

If you take a look at this file, the file containing the dts audio wasn't used, but it was created with a size of 3,08GB,

Here the ac3 file was used,....

That's the pic of the DTS-HD XXL selection.
http://www.lifeshammer.de/Unbenannt.jpg

[turbojet]

It's really no big deal. In earlier versions of BD-RB this would remove certain directories created by the TSMUXER --blu-ray option. Now it uses the --AVCHD option when it writes movie-only, and TSMUXER does the directory adjustment. Check it if you have a Panasonic.

Actually currently not enabling strict AVCHD still uses --bluray which only works on a handful of players when it's burned on DVD so it is quite a big deal and there's well over 100 posts in this thread concerning this issue. If it were to use --avchd it would be no difference between the two but strict AVCHD should remove some folders that aren't part of the avchd structure like it used to.

Hopefully next version will fix this issue so 95%+ people will get playable output every time from the program by default. Have you taken a look at this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1286079#post1286079) I referred to a few days ago and apply it to the next version?

Ok I fixed it. I can't for the life of me remember why I didn't originally grab the window handle using the PID instead of the caption. But I'm doing it by PID now and it is working... It'll be posted in the next release.

Thanks, just sort of an annoying cosmetic bug.

I may go back remove the defaulted deinterlacing as suggested (or add a hidden option). I need to see how it looks at playback.

Ok but just a reminder to use --tff in x264 command line or else the encode won't be nearly as efficient. Also finding out the field order might be able to be done with an avisynth function like: last.getparity() ? 1 : 0 . It accurately finds the correct field order however I have no idea how to pipe it to x264.

[drmih]

There normally pretty small files usually only used in the extras anyway so its not like it would waste much space and in my experience a full BD compressed to BD-9 looks pretty awful 99% of the time the only real exeption is animation.

Personally I would only allow Full backups to BD-25 and movie only to BD5/9/25

I haven't got a clue what settings you are using but I've now done well over a hundred full backups to bd-9 and I struggle to be able to identify them from the originals.

The last thing people want is to have restrictions placed on them and quite the opposite I would like to have no restrictions but with a warning about quality when selected. For instance I was doing the latest Wallace and Gromit movie and the original is just about 10 Gb yet there is no automatic way of keeping the audio intact and encoding to bd-9 because of a hard coded restriction.

[Capsbackup]

I have successfully backed up Casino Royale, Region A, before but without the HD audio (LPCM), but this attempt with the latest version of BD Rebuilder v0.21.01 (beta) failed. It was trying to encode a 468KB (00061.M2TS) file when it aborted. I was of the belief on BD-25 backups, 100MB or less would be skipped. Is this true? Should BD-RB try to reencode any and all files, even below 1 MB?

EDIT; I think I found out why this happened. I had inserted "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=", below options, but I removed the value/number and left it just like in the quotes. When I completely remove "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=" from below "Options", it then does not try to reencode the less than 100 MB files. So even though I did not have a value after "=", BD-RB sees it as "0MB", and trys to reencode all files. Oh well, I guess operator error on this one. :rolleyes:

Is there a way to recover this partial encode after a mistake such as this? I notice that BD-RB wants to delete the working directory if I change/remove the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=" .

-----------------------
[17:06:41] BD Rebuilder v0.21.01 (beta)
- Source: CASINO_ROYALE
- Input BD size: 44.05 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:21:07.101]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[17:06:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:06:41] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [17:16:24] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 10,158 Kbs
- [17:16:24] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:56:36] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:42:36] Video Encode complete
- [22:42:36] Reencoding audio tracks
- [22:42:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:58:16] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [22:58:57] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 8,530 Kbs
- [22:58:57] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:16:42] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:00:07] Video Encode complete
- [00:00:07] Reencoding audio tracks
- [00:00:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:00:29] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [00:01:05] Collecting video information [00002]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 8,561 Kbs
- [00:01:05] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:17:57] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:57:03] Video Encode complete
- [00:57:03] Reencoding audio tracks
- [00:57:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:57:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [00:57:29] Collecting video information [00003]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 2,849 Kbs
- [00:57:29] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:59:41] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:04:47] Video Encode complete
- [01:04:47] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:04:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:04:52] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [01:05:02] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 2,857 Kbs
- [01:05:02] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:08:01] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:14:58] Video Encode complete
- [01:14:58] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:14:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:15:04] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- [01:15:14] Collecting video information [00005]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 2,842 Kbs
- [01:15:14] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:18:04] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:24:37] Video Encode complete
- [01:24:37] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:24:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:24:43] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [01:24:45] Collecting video information [00006]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 2,594 Kbs
- [01:24:45] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:25:23] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:26:33] Video Encode complete
- [01:26:33] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:26:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:26:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00007]
- [01:26:40] Collecting video information [00007]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 12,207 Kbs
- [01:26:40] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:28:17] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:32:31] Video Encode complete
- [01:32:31] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:32:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:32:34] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00008]
- [01:32:38] Collecting video information [00008]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 8,264 Kbs
- [01:32:38] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:34:16] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:37:59] Video Encode complete
- [01:37:59] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:37:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:38:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [01:38:09] Collecting video information [00009]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 14,044 Kbs
- [01:38:09] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:39:51] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:44:31] Video Encode complete
- [01:44:31] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:44:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:44:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [01:44:38] Collecting video information [00010]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 9,945 Kbs
- [01:44:38] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:45:24] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:47:09] Video Encode complete
- [01:47:09] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:47:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:47:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00060]
- [01:47:11] Collecting video information [00060]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 7,372 Kbs
- [01:47:11] Reencoding: VID_00060, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:47:32] Reencoding: VID_00060, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:47:55] Video Encode complete
- [01:47:55] Reencoding audio tracks
- [01:47:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:47:55] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00061]
- [01:47:55] Collecting video information [00061]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [01:47:55] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[01:47:56] - Failed video encode, aborted

[jdobbs]

Actually currently not enabling strict AVCHD still uses --bluray which only works on a handful of players when it's burned on DVD so it is quite a big deal and there's well over 100 posts in this thread concerning this issue. If it were to use --avchd it would be no difference between the two but strict AVCHD should remove some folders that aren't part of the avchd structure like it used to.

Hopefully next version will fix this issue so 95%+ people will get playable output every time from the program by default. Have you taken a look at this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1286079#post1286079) I referred to a few days ago and apply it to the next version?



Thanks, just sort of an annoying cosmetic bug.



Ok but just a reminder to use --tff in x264 command line or else the encode won't be nearly as efficient. Also finding out the field order might be able to be done with an avisynth function like: last.getparity() ? 1 : 0 . It accurately finds the correct field order however I have no idea how to pipe it to x264.I guess I didn't word that response correctly. I meant that --AVCHD is used if you select strict AVCHD.

--tff gives an "unknown option" error in X264. There is a --interlaced switch.

[turbojet]

I guess I didn't word that response correctly. I meant that --AVCHD is used if you select strict AVCHD.

--tff gives an "unknown option" error in X264. There is a --interlaced switch.

Oh --tff is a switch in modified with nalhrd_interlaced patch but I just encoded 3 little tff clips in crf and --tff and --interlaced produced bit identical files. I don't think I have any bff clips to test they are fairly rare, but --interlaced should be just as good as --tff / --bff and maybe even better if it auto-detects field order.

[Dark Shikari]

Oh --tff is a switch in modified with nalhrd_interlaced patch but I just encoded 3 little tff clips in crf and --tff and --interlaced produced bit identical files. I don't think I have any bff clips to test they are fairly rare, but --interlaced should be just as good as --tff / --bff and maybe even better if it auto-detects field order.It doesn't detect field order; it doesn't even write a particular field order to the bitstream.

[turbojet]

Even though x264 gave identical stats for --tff (alias to --interlaced) and --bff there is 2 bit differences in the mkv's and 100's of differences in the tsmuxer m2ts's. I can't tell a difference when viewing the m2ts's with MPC-HC and TMT3. Does anyone know if there is any signifigant difference in the 2 options in this situation?

[drmih]

I've just re-tried Godfather and Godfather 2 to bd-25 with the audio untouched and both came in oversized by about 500 Mb.

If I use a custom size am I still able to leave the audio untouched or is that hard coded for the bd-25 option only?

[tekmobile]

I've just re-tried Godfather and Godfather 2 to bd-25 with the audio untouched and both came in oversized by about 500 Mb.

If I use a custom size am I still able to leave the audio untouched or is that hard coded for the bd-25 option only?

What was the output size in bytes ?

On previous versions I have been able to keep HD audio with a custom size but there are limits if you go too low it will not keep it but I don't know what they are of if its changed.

[drmih]

What was the output size in bytes ?

On previous versions I have been able to keep HD audio with a custom size but there are limits if you go too low it will not keep it but I don't know what they are of if its changed.

23.6 Gb (25,357,897,728)

[tekmobile]

23.6 Gb (25,357,897,728)

Thats ok then

I was just wondering because ive seen many people complain about oversizing by a few hundered megs that were trying to burn to BD-RE when in fact the image was not oversize its just the BD-RE was not formatted to its full capacity (common with ImgBurn)

[Nkotok]

Thats ok then

I was just wondering because ive seen many people complain about oversizing by a few hundered megs that were trying to burn to BD-RE when in fact the image was not oversize its just the BD-RE was not formatted to its full capacity (common with ImgBurn)


No, it is BD RB that oversizes. I did Godfather movies for BD25s and they also came out oversized by about 500MB. It has nothing to do with BD-RE.

[Lif3styl3]

hi jdobbs,

by the way,...
the bd transpporter is undersized. it seems to be that bd-rb has calculated the hd audio size and pushed the dolby digital file on disc.

the difference is the audio size. Next info, i've got the dts hd audio file in my working directory, but it wasn't used,...

[drmih]

jdobbs

Given that some movies are oversized, would it be possible to remove the restrictions on Custom Size so that discs could still be done with the audio untouched?

[Capsbackup]

Casino Royale backed up perfectly to BD-25 with 1 LPCM and 1 AC3 448kbps. I Selected the standard Target Size BD-25, and the finished ISO is 22.0GB (23,627,890,688 bytes). I have not tried Custom Target Size for BD-25, nor do I feel compelled to try it when the potential oversize is not worth the questionable gain. I also believe, as jdobbs has said before, it is better to leave some room on the disc, to not burn to the outer edges where the possibility is greater for future damage.

[jdobbs]

I've just re-tried Godfather and Godfather 2 to bd-25 with the audio untouched and both came in oversized by about 500 Mb.

If I use a custom size am I still able to leave the audio untouched or is that hard coded for the bd-25 option only? Any size that is larger than a BD-9 is considered "BD-25"...

Give me some info on how oversized we're talking? I use a standard parameter to estimate how large the HD audio will be when remuxed into M2TS -- I can adjust it if I know how much it is oversizing. Even better would be a size adjustment that is specific to muxing overhead for each HD type. Then I could get very accurate. I just haven't had time to run tests. I'll see what I can do this weekend.

[jdobbs]

No, it is BD RB that oversizes. I did Godfather movies for BD25s and they also came out oversized by about 500MB. It has nothing to do with BD-RE. Oversized by your specified settings, or oversized using the standard BD-25 setting?

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I am trying to backup X-Men, Region A, to BD-25. From a previous experience with Casino Royale and BD-RB aborting when trying to reencode very small files ( less than 1MB), I was trying to avoid this from happening again. So I inserted the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=100", and also tried "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=250", but BD-RB still shows several files less than this, one being .57MB. When viewing this file with MPC, it is just a .02 second Twentieth Century Fox advert, and should not be needed or displayed to be reencoded. And of course, it is the very last .M2TS to be reencoded, so I was hoping to avoid the ultimate and potential abort at the very end. Is this normal? Shouldn't BD-RB overlook these files when using this setting?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
I am trying to backup X-Men, Region A, to BD-25. From a previous experience with Casino Royale and BD-RB aborting when trying to reencode very small files ( less than 1MB), I was trying to avoid this from happening again. So I inserted the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=100", and also tried "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=250", but BD-RB still shows several files less than this, one being .57MB. When viewing this file with MPC, it is just a .02 second Twentieth Century Fox advert, and should not be needed or displayed to be reencoded. And of course, it is the very last .M2TS to be reencoded, so I was hoping to avoid the ultimate and potential abort at the very end. Is this normal? Shouldn't BD-RB overlook these files when using this setting?No.

If it is smaller than your setting but is still showing in the list, that means it is a part of a multipart MPLS that has at least one section meeting your criteria. If any part of an MPLS is to be reencoded, all other M2TSs in that MPLS must also be reencoded. If you don't do that you may end up with an MPLS that has one part AVC and another VC-1, or one part containing one type of audio and another that doesn't match. The result would be something unplayable because the MPLS descriptions wouldn't match at least some part of the video/audio.

I don't think I've seen any problems reencoding small video segments in a long time... can you describe the issue?

[Capsbackup]

No.

If it is smaller than your setting but is still showing in the list, that means it is a part of a multipart MPLS that has at least one section meeting your criteria. If any part of an MPLS is to be reencoded, all other M2TSs in that MPLS must also be reencoded. If you don't do that you may end up with an MPLS that has one part AVC and another VC-1, or one part containing one type of audio and another that doesn't match. The result would be something unplayable because the MPLS descriptions wouldn't match at least some part of the video/audio.

I don't think I've seen any problems reencoding small video segments in a long time... can you describe the issue?

I did not think that this .02 second advert would be part of the main .mpls, but maybe it is. The main .m2ts is one .m2ts, 00074, and is 27.7GB.
From my post above, #2981, BD-RB aborted trying to reencode a file that was 468KB in size ( Casino Royale). My attachment, waiting for approval, will show my concern for X-Men. It is running now, so I guess I will know if there is a problem in about 8 hours.

[tekmobile]

I did not think that this .02 second advert would be part of the main .mpls, but maybe it is. The main .m2ts is one .m2ts, 00074, and is 27.7GB.
From my post above, #2981, BD-RB aborted trying to reencode a file that was 468KB in size ( Casino Royale). My attachment, waiting for approval, will show my concern for X-Men. It is running now, so I guess I will know if there is a problem in about 8 hours.

It doesn't have to be the main MPLS there are 100s of them it could be included in some extras thats plays inbetween trailers for instance

Ive only ever had one instance where a m2ts wouldnt encode and that was really small but I have sucessfully done m2ts as small as 200KB in the past

[Furiousflea]

Oversized by your specified settings, or oversized using the standard BD-25 setting?

The Godfather movies do all oversize by a good 1GB roughly. Although they are the exception and certainly not the rule. Most my BD25 backups using your default conservative target pop out at 22-22.3GB

I think that's a good default the way it is. 1GB undersize is more than reasonable and takes care of the odd disc that is only a few hundred mb under the 23.3GB capacity of a BD-R.


If you could tune the target sizing more accurately then it would be a good idea to change your default target size obviously. I'm quite happy how it is though in all honesty. Not perfect but it is good enough.

[drmih]

Oversized by your specified settings, or oversized using the standard BD-25 setting?

Oversized using the standard bd-25 setting - I also had the same which is where my question came from.

The size on the hard disc was 23.6 Gb (25,357,897,728).

If by using a slightly smaller custom size I can still get untouched audio then there's no issue for me, although I suppose it could be annoying if you have a slow pc which is taken a day or so.