BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[focuspuller]

No, It is not problem of windows 7 it also happen in windows vista. Also i use Win 7 without any problems for about a week.

Great, so you're saying even if i reinstall Vista I'm going to have this problem?

Have you found a solution? And is there any way to address or solve it as it's not a Windows 7 problem?

[leChameleon]

Do you support Windows 2008 Server 64-bit? It's officially released.

[HWK]

Great, so you're saying even if i reinstall Vista I'm going to have this problem?

I can’t speak for you but when I was using vista I ran into problem. However restarting encoding from beginning fixes it. (Just make sure to delete any working dir and and temp files) This may not always work!!!. Just one of those hiccups which happen during encoding especially since BDRB is BETA. But no need to reinstall vista again.

I will try with Windows Xp Media Center Edition and see if it does the same thing.

[jdobbs]

No, It is not problem of windows 7 it also happen in windows vista. Also i use Win 7 without any problems for about a week. This isn't aimed specifically at your response, but more generally to all Windows 7 users.

I can tell you that in 90% of the cases where you are running into an issue and you are using Windows 7 -- Windows 7 is the cause and it will work correctly in Vista or Xp.

You may fall into that other 10%, I don't know, but (as the huge number of Win7 issues posted across the Internet will confirm) -- Windows 7 is NOT READY FOR PRIME-TIME. If it were, people wouldn't have to make registry changes to make legacy software run!!!

That is very clearly why I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT until it is fixed. If you're convinced you know more than me -- fine, use Windows 7 to your heart's content and be happy. Just don't try to hand your headaches over to me. I will not attempt (at least not yet) to fix Microsoft's bugs or incompatibilities.

The exact same set of issues happened when NT, 95/98, XP, and Vista was released. Microsoft along with 3rd party vendors will clean it up -- but they haven't yet. "Hopeful thinking" and wishing it weren't true certainly isn't going to help. You can't just make the assumption that "Microsoft has changed -- and it will be different this time".

I probably do more discs in testing that any 10 other typical people -- and I just cruise from disc-to-disc and almost never hit an error. If I do, I fix it. If someone reports one, I will buy that disc and try it. If I hit the error, I will fix it (and have done so on plenty -- this is beta software after all). But I can't fix things that are caused by experimental setups... and others should have the common sense not to ask me to.

I guess it could be I'm just lucky -- but I don't believe in "luck". I believe we make our own luck. I can tell you very assuredly that jumping onto a Microsoft O/S as soon as they throw it onto the Internet is a good way to make your own bad luck.

I don't want to see any more "it's not Windows 7" posts. Run it on Vista or XP, and when you get the error we can talk... otherwise, figure it out yourself.

[jdobbs]

Do you support Windows 2008 Server 64-bit? It's officially released.No, and probably never will. Server operating systems are optimized for running a server. BD-RB is not a server.

[Furiousflea]

So after installing Acrsoft TotalMedia Theater 2 and updating it to v2.1.6.130 how does one set it as the decoder for BD-RB?

I've attempted to follow the other instructions posted but Arcsoft is not listed under 64-bit using Win7DSFilterTweaker v1.4. Some of the other links are dead.

I don't see anything in BD-RB's *.ini file either.

1. Download "graphstudio" after doing the registry tweak (basically just deleting that "preferred subtree").

2. Install "VC1 Tweaker (Haali)" 64bit version.

3. Graphstudio->insert filter->VC1 Tweaker (haali)->Click "Change Merrit"->Change to "Preferred +2"

4. Disable VC1 decoding in ffdshow.

Sorted...providing you have TMT2 installed.

[Furiousflea]

Great, so you're saying even if i reinstall Vista I'm going to have this problem?

Have you found a solution? And is there any way to address or solve it as it's not a Windows 7 problem?

Same goes to you ^

[travhavlicek]

I did a full disc backup with 'Children of Men'. As soon as you select play from the DVD menu, it crashes PowerDVD 9. This is the first disc I've had a problem with. Here's the log:

[Status]
LABEL=CHILDREN_OF_MEN_G51
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=34288519429
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33367486464
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.695174179812024
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=9
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00009]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=21233536113
RATE=19726
NSIZE=20204052480
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00057]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=149558594
RATE=3704
NSIZE=70373376
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00080]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=83706001
RATE=5225
NSIZE=80756736
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00122]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=827095415
RATE=3290
NSIZE=808458240
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00123]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=173156699
RATE=3308
NSIZE=166281216
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00124]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=231718439
RATE=3290
NSIZE=228722688
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00125]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=142835804
RATE=3283
NSIZE=141496320
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00126]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111111111
M2TS_TARGET=263277967
RATE=3278
NSIZE=252573696
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00127]
AUDIO=1
PGS=111111111
M2TS_TARGET=91330004
RATE=3350
NSIZE=87754752
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

@Furiousflea

I was able to repeat the error on the Region A version of Pinnochio. I'm looking into it.

[jdobbs]

I did a full disc backup with 'Children of Men'. As soon as you select play from the DVD menu, it crashes PowerDVD 9. This is the first disc I've had a problem with.Have you tried it on a standalone player? If PowerDVD "crashes" on anything, it means there is an issue in PowerDVD. If it simply says "I can't play this" or "your disc sucks" and exits gracefully -- it may be a different story.

[chudm]

I did a full disc backup with 'Children of Men'. As soon as you select play from the DVD menu, it crashes PowerDVD 9. This is the first disc I've had a problem with.

try it with totalmedia theatre 3, if it works there then you know its a powerdvd problem

[setarip_old]

@travhavlicek

Hi!

Exactly what happens that you're describing as Power DVD "crashing"?

[HWK]

This isn't aimed specifically at your response, but more generally to all Windows 7 users.

That is understandable.

I can tell you that in 90% of the cases where you are running into an issue and you are using Windows 7 -- Windows 7 is the cause and it will work correctly in Vista or Xp.

No, I just started using windows 7 a week ago. Prior to it I was using Win Vista Sp2 and Win 7 as a dual boot and had some problems. I probably fall towards codec issue when something happen like this.

You may fall into that other 10%, I don't know, but (as the huge number of Win7 issues posted across the Internet will confirm) -- Windows 7 is NOT READY FOR PRIME-TIME. If it were, people wouldn't have to make registry changes to make legacy software run!!!

Again, Agree

That is very clearly why I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT until it is fixed. If you're convinced you know more than me -- fine, use Windows 7 to your heart's content and be happy. Just don't try to hand your headaches over to me. I will not attempt (at least not yet) to fix Microsoft's bugs or incompatibilities.

No Problem, As a beta tester I know the importance of being on same boat when testing software.


The exact same set of issues happened when NT, 95/98, XP, and Vista was released. Microsoft along with 3rd party vendors will clean it up -- but they haven't yet. "Hopeful thinking" and wishing it weren't true certainly isn't going to help. You can't just make the assumption that "Microsoft has changed -- and it will be different this time".

I agree with you, Microsoft think that “3rd party vendors will clean it up”

Just to sum it up I had problem in vista Sp2 as well. It is mention few post back. Also whenever I give bugs report I run it on Vista and Xp before talking about in forum. Any posts which belong to me and I mention BDRB bugs in it was under Win Vista or/ And Win XP. No Win 7 as it is beta.

[PurpleMan]

Well, I've found a bug!!

Trying to do Batman Begins, and it looks like BD-Rebuilder (0.28.03) is mixing the secondary video with the primary one.

It says it's encoding the secondary, using the secondary bitrate, but actually encoding the primary. here is the INF:

[Status]
LABEL=BATMAN_BEGINS
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=40040045985
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=36168726528
TARGET_SIZE=25165824000
REDUCTION=.588754611708954
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
[00000]
AUDIO=0100001
PGS=11111111111111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=14224421144
RATE=8190


As you can see in the images, the secondary video is 480p while the primary is 1080p, yet when BD-RB claims to encode the secondary (with a low 8mbit rate) it actually encodes the 1080p primary (I've also verified using the lastcmd.txt that the AVS it encodes is indeed of the primary, not secondary).

Hope this is helpful!

[focuspuller]

This isn't aimed specifically at your response, but more generally to all Windows 7 users.

I can tell you that in 90% of the cases where you are running into an issue and you are using Windows 7 -- Windows 7 is the cause and it will work correctly in Vista or Xp.

You may fall into that other 10%, I don't know, but (as the huge number of Win7 issues posted across the Internet will confirm) -- Windows 7 is NOT READY FOR PRIME-TIME. If it were, people wouldn't have to make registry changes to make legacy software run!!!

That is very clearly why I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT until it is fixed. If you're convinced you know more than me -- fine, use Windows 7 to your heart's content and be happy. Just don't try to hand your headaches over to me. I will not attempt (at least not yet) to fix Microsoft's bugs or incompatibilities.

The exact same set of issues happened when NT, 95/98, XP, and Vista was released. Microsoft along with 3rd party vendors will clean it up -- but they haven't yet. "Hopeful thinking" and wishing it weren't true certainly isn't going to help. You can't just make the assumption that "Microsoft has changed -- and it will be different this time".

I probably do more discs in testing that any 10 other typical people -- and I just cruise from disc-to-disc and almost never hit an error. If I do, I fix it. If someone reports one, I will buy that disc and try it. If I hit the error, I will fix it (and have done so on plenty -- this is beta software after all). But I can't fix things that are caused by experimental setups... and others should have the common sense not to ask me to.

I guess it could be I'm just lucky -- but I don't believe in "luck". I believe we make our own luck. I can tell you very assuredly that jumping onto a Microsoft O/S as soon as they throw it onto the Internet is a good way to make your own bad luck.

I don't want to see any more "it's not Windows 7" posts. Run it on Vista or XP, and when you get the error we can talk... otherwise, figure it out yourself.


Firstly, as far as the problem I had, I was able to solve it. I simply reinstalled avisynth and everything is working again.

Related to the attempt to copy 12 Monkeys, still no go. And I tried it on a different computer, with Vista. So for the record "it's not windows 7". If I turn it into an ISO it works but there is something about this disc that simply won't work.

Now, I don't know if your post is directed toward me, but as far as your post goes, I can understand where you're coming from. You have stated that you don't support 7, but I wasn't aware of that until now.

And now I'm getting the same error on Vista.

Either way, other then this one disc, I have no problem. I enjoy using this program, and will continue to do so. I'm also very grateful for your hard work and support.

[focuspuller]

Same goes to you ^

Thanks for your help.

[Sharc]

Full backup / 1-pass / Quick Extras disabled:
crf prediction loops at crf=24.0 for one of the Extras.

Secondly: Any possibility to change the preset (eg as an hidden option) when "Quick for Extras" is enabled? Now BD-RB uses ultrafast at crf 28, can I change to a slower preset, like fast or medium?
(I enabled Quick for Extras to prevent the crf prediction looping issue ...)

[PurpleMan]

Well, I've found a bug!!

Trying to do Batman Begins, and it looks like BD-Rebuilder (0.28.03) is mixing the secondary video with the primary one.

It says it's encoding the secondary, using the secondary bitrate, but actually encoding the primary. here is the INF:

[Status]
LABEL=BATMAN_BEGINS
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=40040045985
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=36168726528
TARGET_SIZE=25165824000
REDUCTION=.588754611708954
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
[00000]
AUDIO=0100001
PGS=11111111111111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=14224421144
RATE=8190


As you can see in the images, the secondary video is 480p while the primary is 1080p, yet when BD-RB claims to encode the secondary (with a low 8mbit rate) it actually encodes the 1080p primary (I've also verified using the lastcmd.txt that the AVS it encodes is indeed of the primary, not secondary).

Hope this is helpful!


Forgot to mention, this is the INI file:

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24000
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=200
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\BATMAN_BEGINS\
WORKING_PATH=C:\1\

[jdobbs]

@Furiousflea

I was able to repeat the error on the Region A version of Pinnochio. I'm looking into it. I'm still looking at this -- but 00002.MPLS very definitely violates the BD standard. The offset to the data block (ext_data_start_address) in the first ExtensionData() entry is required by the specification to be on a dword boundary -- and it isn't. In fact the data_block_start_address itself must also start on a dword boundary and doesn't. I'll have to see if there is a way to correct it -- but the error is very definitely on the disc, not in BD Rebuilder.

[jdobbs]

Well, I've found a bug!!

Trying to do Batman Begins, and it looks like BD-Rebuilder (0.28.03) is mixing the secondary video with the primary one.

It says it's encoding the secondary, using the secondary bitrate, but actually encoding the primary. here is the INF:

[Status]
LABEL=BATMAN_BEGINS
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=40040045985
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=36168726528
TARGET_SIZE=25165824000
REDUCTION=.588754611708954
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
[00000]
AUDIO=0100001
PGS=11111111111111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=14224421144
RATE=8190


As you can see in the images, the secondary video is 480p while the primary is 1080p, yet when BD-RB claims to encode the secondary (with a low 8mbit rate) it actually encodes the 1080p primary (I've also verified using the lastcmd.txt that the AVS it encodes is indeed of the primary, not secondary).

Hope this is helpful!I'll look, but I think it's probably just reporting it wrong. In the BD-RB tables the secondary is a subelement of the primary. I think the attributes are being reported from the primary. But stranger things have happened.

The secondary is encoded immediately before the primary, so it's probable that by the time you look at LASTCMD.TXT you're seeing the command for the primary. Can you playback the output of the secondary encode and see if it is 480p?

[PurpleMan]

No, it's definitely doing it wrong.

I checked the lastcmd.txt, it is in fact encoding the PRIMARY video using the bitrate that's supposed to be for the secondary (8mbit).

and it's the first thing that's being encoded. so if you say the 2nd track should've been done BEFORE the the primary one, then it confirms that there is indeed a problem, because the primary one is the first one being encoded (with wrong bitrate).


Edit: actually, hold on that report. I wanna test again to make sure I'm not misleading you. I'll report back.

[Furiousflea]

No, it's definitely doing it wrong.

I checked the lastcmd.txt, it is in fact encoding the PRIMARY video using the bitrate that's supposed to be for the secondary (8mbit).

and it's the first thing that's being encoded. so if you say the 2nd track should've been done BEFORE the the primary one, then it confirms that there is indeed a problem, because the primary one is the first one being encoded (with wrong bitrate).


Edit: actually, hold on that report. I wanna test again to make sure I'm not misleading you. I'll report back.

I'm pretty sure your getting it mixed up, as jdobbs has said it doesn't distinguish between the video tracks in the m2ts, so it looks like it's only encoding one track. I have done batman begins with the version prior to 0.28.03 so if there does turn out to be a problem jdobbs use that for reference.

[Furiousflea]

I'm still looking at this -- but 00002.MPLS very definitely violates the BD standard. The offset to the data block (ext_data_start_address) in the first ExtensionData() entry is required by the specification to be on a dword boundary -- and it isn't. In fact the data_block_start_address itself must also start on a dword boundary and doesn't. I'll have to see if there is a way to correct it -- but the error is very definitely on the disc, not in BD Rebuilder.

Interesting...I'm quite sure I distinctly remember doing a full backup a couple of months ago without the PiP function and didn't receive the error at rebuild. Maybe need to relax some setting for this disc alone...on other hand maybe that's abit messy. Anyways, cheers for looking into it. :)

[Capsbackup]

@PurpleMan;
I'm not sure if this can help, but I also recently did a full movie backup to BD-25 of this movie with BD-RBV02803, and though I have deleted my files, my finished 00000.m2ts file was 14.5 GB. I kept the Dolby True HD and one 640kbps AC3 audio track as well as the DD Plus secondary audio. I seem to remember BD-RB had a bitrate set to approx. 9800kbps for the 1080P file.
BD-RB settings were:
High Quality(Default); Custom Target Size(23450 MB); Keep HD Audio.
All two-pass (Quicker Encode for Extras was NOT selected).
Total BD size finished 22.5 GB.
I am curious, if you burn your backup to BD-R/RE media and play it back on a standalone, does the movie have the audio in sync?
Mine was off by 250ms, very noticeable and not enjoyable to watch. It took some adjusting to finally get the audio in sync, but the backup looks great!

[leChameleon]

...
2. Install "VC1 Tweaker (Haali)" 64bit version.
...As there seem to be many versions of this posted can you point me to the correct one? I've tried a few but either they do not install properly either error or are not listed in GraphStudio.

[jdobbs]

No, it's definitely doing it wrong.

I checked the lastcmd.txt, it is in fact encoding the PRIMARY video using the bitrate that's supposed to be for the secondary (8mbit).

and it's the first thing that's being encoded. so if you say the 2nd track should've been done BEFORE the the primary one, then it confirms that there is indeed a problem, because the primary one is the first one being encoded (with wrong bitrate).


Edit: actually, hold on that report. I wanna test again to make sure I'm not misleading you. I'll report back.I believe you are mistaken. I just looked at it. The attributes of the secondary tracks are not even displayed. You are looking at the command for the primary track.

The only way to tell is to do what I asked -- look at the actual video that was encoded for the secondary track. I've just finished testing several -- and it is being done correctly.

[jdobbs]

Interesting...I'm quite sure I distinctly remember doing a full backup a couple of months ago without the PiP function and didn't receive the error at rebuild. Maybe need to relax some setting for this disc alone...on other hand maybe that's abit messy. Anyways, cheers for looking into it. :) I'm glad I took the time to check this one out. I found what was caused it. Even though the table was very definitely authored incorrectly by the BD standard -- that wasn't what was causing the error. I was incrementing an index incorrectly. On most sources it wouldn't matter because there is only one entry in that table -- but in Pinnochio it had a couple hundred.

You wouldn't have gotten the error on one of the old versions because this was fairly new code. Of course on the older versions the PiP wouldn't have worked... :)

Good catch. Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I've just updated the links in the first post of this thread to a new version of BD Rebuilder (0.28.04). Changes in this release:- Changed the default behavior for handling
PiP/secondary audio/video. PROCESS_SECONDARY
now defaults to "1" (true) and full backups will
include secondary audio/video.
- Fixed an error related to PiP and extension data
tables in which some timestamp entries may not have
been updated.
- Fixed possible "CorrectMPLS()00006 2408" that may
occur during rebuild.
- Added a specialized hidden setting that is meant
for special circumstances. "HDDVD_COMPLIANT=1" in
the "[Options]" area of the INI will force certain
parameters to be used and will limit bitrate to
that legal for HD-DVD playback. Note: This does
NOT mean you can playback your output on an HD-DVD
player. It only means the stream will be encoded
in a way that is compliant for certain post BD-RB
software packages to use it in creating HD-DVDs.
If selecting this option with BD-25, it is likely
you will undersize due to bitrate constraints.
- Added code to better select the movie-only MPLS.
Now when there are two large MPLSs within 10% of
each other, the default is the 2nd largest (which
is generally the non-extended or non-commentary
version). You should still check the "Alternate
Movie-Only Playlist" just to be sure.
- Corrected an error in the CRF prediction routine.
- Updated X264.EXE to the most recent version (r1222)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs"HDDVD_COMPIANT=1"

THANK YOU ;>}

[deank]

Will "compLiant" also work? :-P

[GaPony]

That's a different update.. :)

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

THANK YOU ;>} Hmmm.... maybe that's why I write so little documentation. It's "HDDVD_COMPLIANT". You don't know how many times I've misspelled it "COMPLAINT"... :)

[Chiamos]

Hmmm.... maybe that's why I write so little documentation. It's "HDDVD_COMPLIANT". You don't know how many times I've misspelled it "COMPLAINT"... :)
Now see what some people have done to some of your train of thought. :rolleyes:

[Capsbackup]

Vocabulary... very overrated!! Thats why I just say " do what I think, not what I say". :cool:
Well, I think we know what you meant anyway. :) Thanks for the new update.
:thanks:

[jdobbs]

Firstly, as far as the problem I had, I was able to solve it. I simply reinstalled avisynth and everything is working again.

Related to the attempt to copy 12 Monkeys, still no go. And I tried it on a different computer, with Vista. So for the record "it's not windows 7". If I turn it into an ISO it works but there is something about this disc that simply won't work.

Now, I don't know if your post is directed toward me, but as far as your post goes, I can understand where you're coming from. You have stated that you don't support 7, but I wasn't aware of that until now.

And now I'm getting the same error on Vista.

Either way, other then this one disc, I have no problem. I enjoy using this program, and will continue to do so. I'm also very grateful for your hard work and support.So grateful that you rated it a "1" for value for the money (I guess free isn't cheap enough) and "1" for functionality on VIDEOHELP.COM? I guess the fact that it is the ONLY program existing that does full backups of BDs to BD-25 today while still in beta doesn't get any points for functionality.

I don't think I'd hold my breath the next time you ask me for support of your "beta testing"...

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs You don't know how many times I've misspelled it "COMPLAINT"That's on a par with all of the Christmas stories that take place in a "manager" ;>}.

The important thing is that we all "new whut jew railee ment" - and thank you for your efforts...

[MikeyBK]

So grateful that you rated it a "1" for value for the money (I guess free isn't cheap enough) and "1" for functionality on VIDEOHELP.COM? I guess the fact that it is the ONLY program existing that does full backups of BDs to BD-25 today while still in beta doesn't get any points for functionality.

I don't think I'd hold my breath the next time you ask me for support of your "beta testing"...

Don't mind the naysayers JD... you and your great software is most appreciated by the overwhelming majority. I know that I am extremely grateful to you for BD-RB.... and I know that I speak for just about everyone else here...

So much thanks Bro.... and BTW, I've nolt had any bugs to report, thus why I haven't posted too much lately on this thread.... all my back-ups are movie only BD-9s...

And lastly, focuspuller made a gramatical error... he meant to add those two 1's together..... '11' is what he should've rated it since I don't see anyone else stepping up to offer such a great software as you have to all for free, hope he donated atleast 'something' for your efforts...

[Furiousflea]

As there seem to be many versions of this posted can you point me to the correct one? I've tried a few but either they do not install properly either error or are not listed in GraphStudio.

Not sure dude, I downloaded a "pack" off rapidshare linked somewhere on this part of the forum. Only 1 of the versions of "VC1 Tweaker" in that pack worked. The rest either just hung on the encoding stage with no error, or gave a "memory access violation" error dialogue box.

In the pack there were 32\64 bit versions for each one with a batch file included you just double click to install as well as an uninstaller for each one too...

do a search typing "tweaker" or somethin and have a rummage in the threads ;)

[focuspuller]

So grateful that you rated it a "1" for value for the money (I guess free isn't cheap enough) and "1" for functionality on VIDEOHELP.COM? I guess the fact that it is the ONLY program existing that does full backups of BDs to BD-25 today while still in beta doesn't get any points for functionality.

I don't think I'd hold my breath the next time you ask me for support of your "beta testing"...

Yes I am, and yes I did. And it's not free if you pay for it.

If you're going to bring it up then you should explain further. I rated 6 of 10 for Ease Of Use, 1 of 10 for Functionality (based on the fact that the program stopped working completely on all projects), 1 of 10 for Value For Money (for the same reason), and 4 of 10 for Overall Score. I wrote the following review:

"While it's a wonderful program, it has one major flaw. It does not support Windows 7. This will be a huge problem going forward and may not change any time soon given the comments of it's creator."

The fact stated is that you don't support Windows 7, you don't, as you have said yourself. You have also stated that "90% of the cases where you are running into an issue and you are using Windows 7, Windows 7 is the cause".

The rest is opinion, but clearly one that matters to you since you choose to address it.

Let me be clear. My comments were made (both here and videohelp.com) as a Windows 7 user, and is directed to such users. When I wrote those number ratings I based them on the fact that BD rebuilder stopped working. This fact has changed, and as things stand now, everything works with the exception of one disc. To be fair, I number scored the way I did mostly out of frustration and the assuption that BD Rebuilder wouldn't work again on Windows 7 based on your statements. If I wrote that review now, the number score would be higher, but the statement would be the same.

You say that you don't support Windows 7, and that problems related to using BD Rebuilder ("90%") are Windows 7's fault, therefore the two should not be expected to work together.

But when a user states essentially the same thing and criticizes your program, you get on the defensive. You can't have it both ways.

Your adversarial comments aside, I like this program very much. I like what it does, how it does it, and I applaud your hard work. It was not my intention to make you feel defensive. But I will not shy from saying that something doesn't work, when it doesn't (which I thought was the point of this thread, and hopefully helpful to you). I will also not apologize for being part of a growing number of users to an operating system that comes out about a month or two from now, and, in all likelihood will be the largest group of Blu-ray users/copiers.

You may have the only BD shrink program out there. But how long will that last? And how will your strategy change when the time comes?

As for "holding my breath" for help, why? Because you've been so warn, fuzzy, and helpful so far? Don't worry, I'm sure that after dropping you a donation (which I have done) that I will receive the same excellent treatment.

In closing, despite the statements I have made regarding this program's issues (which is the point of this thread) I am a fan of this program and the work that goes into it. I am one of the people you make this program for. So pick another battle because there is no battle here.

p.s. If you need details regarding my donation let me know.

[jdobbs]

It does work with Windows 7, as others have already said. Unfortunately I can't come and hand-hold everyone who wishes to use it. You just have to bypass Microsofts screw-ups.

If you want to use the software -- feel free, that's why I wrote it. But I don't owe you or anyone else anything and the fact that you are willing to eat free pie and then bitch about it simply pisses me off -- and quite frankly, it has me thinking that I should put this project on permanent hold. If you were in my shoes, you'd be defensive too.

I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH LIFE THINKING SOMEHOW THE WORLD OWES THEM. I don't like rude behavior in a person and I won't tolerate it. When I do something for someone, I don't expect or care whether I get thanks -- but accepting bitching is beyond what I can stand.

I suggest you send your verbose comments and your donation to one of those non-existent other packages you're talking about when they come out in 2-3 years. Send me an e-mail so I know it's you and I'll happily refund it.

I have a real job in addition to this, and I spend lots of hours (my free time) just to make software for others to use -- but I can prove very easily that doing so is completely my choice.

1 of 10 for Value For Money (for the same reason) So I guess you want me to send you money for using it? That's pretty much the only way I can think to make it cheaper...

I'm sure you think you're right in what you're saying... that's the sad pathetic part.

[Guest]

@focuspuller

As a disinterested mod, I instruct you to take further OT discussion in this vein to PM.

@all

Stay on topic: bug reports only!

[Capsbackup]

Well, I would like to respond to this with my 2 cents, but will refrain...:mad:

My first attempt to using the Batch option, I noticed that the subtitle selections, or deselections, are not kept after starting the Batch job. I normally only keep English subs on a movie only backup, but after starting the batch job, all subs were still present in the Workfiles folder.
I appreciate all your effort and time, and just want to say :thanks:

[jdobbs]

Well, I would like to respond to this with my 2 cents, but will refrain...:mad:

My first attempt to using the Batch option, I noticed that the subtitle selections, or deselections, are not kept after starting the Batch job. I normally only keep English subs on a movie only backup, but after starting the batch job, all subs were still present in the Workfiles folder.
I appreciate all your effort and time, and just want to say :thanks: Hmmm... I'm not sure how that could happen. I'll take a look at it. One thing to remember, though -- when you put the job in the queue all settings are put there with it, so any changes you make after that don't apply. You'd have to add it to the queue again.

When a batch job is started, all current settings are saved, then the batch jobs' settings are loaded as they execute. When you finish (or abort) a set of batch jobs, all the original (before batch) settings are restored.

[Capsbackup]

Hmmm... I'm not sure how that could happen. I'll take a look at it. One thing to remember, though -- when you put the job in the queue all settings are put there with it, so any changes you make after that don't apply. You'd have to add it to the queue again.

When a batch job is started, all current settings are saved, then the batch jobs' settings are loaded as they execute. When you finish (or abort) a set of batch jobs, all the original (before batch) settings are restored.

I have tried both Add Current Project to Batch Queue and Save Project, but both appear to not save the selected subtitles before choosing the Add/Save. Subtitles are just as they were, the default setting of BD-RB, as when I first open the project.

[GaPony]

Well, I would like to respond to this with my 2 cents, but will refrain...:mad:

My first attempt to using the Batch option, I noticed that the subtitle selections, or deselections, are not kept after starting the Batch job. I normally only keep English subs on a movie only backup, but after starting the batch job, all subs were still present in the Workfiles folder.
I appreciate all your effort and time, and just want to say :thanks:

I haven't noticed that... but I'll go back and take a look. I copy all my movies as Movie Only with English subs (though I've never actually used them). The way I understand that its supposed to work is that you set up each job with its own settings, the add them to the batch queue and it just executes one project after another. I did find that its important to assign each job its own WORKFILES folder.

On a side note: I think BD Rebuilder will take the PS3 community by storm once people figure out how easily you can get a Blu-Ray movie into a single .m2ts file and stream it effortlessly from the PC to the PS3 with PS3MediaServer. No real need for burning to a disc at all!

[FZander]

Hei
Ich have use BD Rebuilder for two Film to make a DB-25 copy. The first works fine, but the second (VC-1) has wrong aspect ration. The Target has no black stripes on top and button.

What is wrong?

[ChBrig]

Hi JDOBBS,

I am a user of BD Rebuider and have to say that it is very useful.
The last version I have used in June 2009 was 0.22.03 and no problem at all.
I got some new ripp in July 2009 and trying to open BD Rebuider, I got a message: version has expired. So I have downloaded the last one: 0.28.03 and problem (same with 0.28.02 and 0.26.03):
1) all codecs are ok
2) When I double click on the shorcut BD Rebuilder to open it, I get a window on my screen: WINDOWS INSTALLER with the following message --> the feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable. Click OK to try again or enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package "Fms.msi" in the box below. I never got that message in the past. If I double click several times "cancel" at the end BD Rebuilder is opening but when I use it on different rips I have a problem of multiplexing (see 3)
3) Error message:
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[21:51:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:51:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:25:56] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 2)
- [00:41:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [00:50:38] Reencoding: VID_00011 (2 of 2)
[02:22:16]PHASE ONE complete
[02:22:16]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:22:16] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Matroska parser: read error at pos 9831448576
[02:37:48] - Failed to REBUILD
4) I have tested 3 different ripps and always the same error and with version 0.28.03, 0.28.02 and 0.26.03
5) I have downloaded BD Rebuider (the 3 noted versions) on the laptop of my wife working with vista and no problem at all. And I don't get that window Windows installer on her laptop when I open BD Rebuilder.

So I think that the problem is coming from that message of Windows installer but I don't know what it means (I have windows XP Professional). And again in the past no problem and no window Windows installer opening. So I don't understand

Could you help me ?

Thank you

[ChBrig]

Hi again JDOBBS,

I have another question.
I can see on your new version, the new encoder setting "High-Speed Option (BD25)". What is it? I have tried it (movie only back up) and wrote a BD 25 but I have the feeling that I have lost in Quality (picture). I am using normally the option High Quality (Default) and movie-back up only and write on BD-25.

[FZander]

Hi again JDOBBS,

I have another question.
I can see on your new version, the new encoder setting "High-Speed Option (BD25)". What is it? I have tried it (movie only back up) and wrote a BD 25 but I have the feeling that I have lost in Quality (picture). I am using normally the option High Quality (Default) and movie-back up only and write on BD-25.

I use this option for two films and I can not see a different between the original disk on a 40" LCD, but the recoding from a Film with vc-1 codec has not the correct aspect ratio.

[Sharc]

Full backup / 1-pass / Quick Extras disabled:
crf prediction loops at crf=24.0 for one of the Extras.

Just to report back: v0.28.04 (beta) solved the looping issue.
1-pass full disc backup filled the BD9 to 96%. Very good.