BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Lathe]

Try it without the subtitles and see if there any issues at those points

I'm sorry... but, did anyone ask you...?

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/laugh2.gif

[Video Dude]

I have it working -- and in fact have done a couple backups. But there is still a lot of work to be done in automating the entire process and lots and lots of testing. I'm also sure I will find that there is a lot of tweaking to be done when I try more sources. I also have to consider that the holidays are coming up and which I will be entertaining visitors. I'm guessing I might have a UHD-BD version released by the end of the month -- but more probably it will be some time in January.


Will a standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player accept and play UHD backup discs that are on BD-R 50 discs?

[MrVideo]

Will a standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player accept and play UHD backup discs that are on BD-R 50 discs?
That is a damn good question, which might be vendor specific.

For example, my Samsung BD players will not accept BD authored material on DVD media.

[drmih]

I have used dvdfab to compress the same source to bd-50 and bd-25 and both play on an Xbox One S and a Panasonic standalone. However, a Playstation 4 Pro, which supports hdr / uhd (albeit with only a blu ray drive) tries but hangs on a black screen.

[Ch3vr0n]

what does that have to do with bdrb, this isn't a dvdfab problem thread

[drmih]

what does that have to do with bdrb, this isn't a dvdfab problem thread

Why don't you spend more time reading the two posts above mine than being a pillock!

[jdobbs]

Will a standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player accept and play UHD backup discs that are on BD-R 50 discs?4K on BD-50 is part of the standard -- so yes. My Sony standalone also plays 4K on BD-25 -- and I suspect most do.

[Lathe]

Why don't you spend more time reading the two posts above mine than being a pillock!http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/images/smilies/laugh_above.gif

[LowDead]

Will a standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player accept and play UHD backup discs that are on BD-R 50 discs?

My Samsung UBD-K8500 have no problem at all with UHD on BD50. Haven't tried BD25 but I don't see why not. What I want to know if anyone of the standalone players accepts BDXL..

//LD

[jdobbs]

My Samsung UBD-K8500 have no problem at all with UHD on BD50. Haven't tried BD25 but I don't see why not. What I want to know if anyone of the standalone players accepts BDXL..

//LDI suspect UHD on BD-25 will work on every player... as BD-50 is included in the specification, and I don't think players distinguish between BD-25/50 (except capacity, of course). BD-25 plays perfectly on my Sony UBP-X800. Since the spec increased the maximum bitrate on BD for UHD-BD, I'm thinking UHD-BD discs always spin at 2x too, but that's just a guess.

[ocean]

My Samsung UBD-K8500 have no problem at all with UHD on BD50. Haven't tried BD25 but I don't see why not. What I want to know if anyone of the standalone players accepts BDXL..

//LD

Maybe oppo 203 with jailbreak firmware support BD-XL, others standalone i do not know.

@jdobbs

For UHD projects, the disk types are:
BD_50_LTR: this output will 50GB, double layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 64 Mbps
BD_50_DTR: this output will 50GB, double layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 81.7 Mbps
BD_66_LTR :: This will produce a 66IT, double layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 81.7 Mbps
BD_66_DTR: this output will a 66IT, double layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 109 Mbps
BD_66_HTR: this output will a 66IT, double layer disc with maximum allowed bitrate up to 109 Mbps in the LTR area and 127.9 Mbps in the HTR zone
BD_100_LTR: this output will a 100GB, triple layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 81.7 Mbps
BD_100_DTR: this output will a 100GB, triple layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 109 Mbps
BD_100_HTR: this output will a 100GB, triple layer disc with maximum allowed bitrate of up to 109 Mbps in the LTR area and 127.9 Mbps in the HTR zone.

[jdobbs]

My Samsung UBD-K8500 have no problem at all with UHD on BD50. Haven't tried BD25 but I don't see why not. What I want to know if anyone of the standalone players accepts BDXL..

//LDI have a BD-XL burner and BD-XL rewritable disc -- I'll give it a try. I can say for sure, though, that my BD-XL drive won't read a standard UHD-BD disc.

[jdobbs]

@ocean -- Thanks. Yeah, I got that and some other good information related to the specification from the "White Paper Blu-ray Disc Read-Only Format (Ultra HD Blu-ray) Audio Visual Application Format Specifications for BD-ROM Version 3.1" which is publicly available for download.

[ocean]

Thank you for everything you did for all of us, if necessary, I have a compatible system full Blu-Ray UHD: Mainboard ASRock Z270, CPU Kaby Lake I7 7700 iGPU 630, drive Pioneeer BDR-S11J-BK and LG BH16NS55, Samsung UBD-K8500, Xbox ONE X.

[LowDead]

I have a BD-XL burner and BD-XL rewritable disc -- I'll give it a try. I can say for sure, though, that my BD-XL drive won't read a standard UHD-BD disc.

Thanks.. And maybe I should say that I tried BDXL on the Samsung but it didn't work.

//LD

[jdobbs]

I'm still working on the UHD-BD capability in BD-RB -- but I thought some of you might find this post (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=175120) interesting in the meantime.

Merry Christmas!

[Acerjen]

Merry Christmas to you too, Jdobbs.

Quick question on UHD-BD...when re-encoding video streams to fit onto a BD-25 or BD-50, do you lose HDR or is it somehow retained? Thanks.

Later,
Acerjen

[jdobbs]

Merry Christmas to you too, Jdobbs.

Quick question on UHD-BD...when re-encoding video streams to fit onto a BD-25 or BD-50, do you lose HDR or is it somehow retained? Thanks.

Later,
AcerjenThat would depend upon what you are using to serve the frames. But, yes, you can retain it when reencoding with X265.

[sneaker_ger]

Do you mean x265? x264 cannot set master display information AFAIK.

[jdobbs]

Do you mean x265? x264 cannot set master display information AFAIK.Yep. My mistake. I corrected it.

[Acerjen]

That would depend upon what you are using to serve the frames. But, yes, you can retain it when reencoding with X265.

Which frame server will allow you to retain the HDR info? And will you make it the default frame server for re-encoding UHD-BD?

[jdobbs]

Which frame server will allow you to retain the HDR info? And will you make it the default frame server for re-encoding UHD-BD?FFMPEG apparently allows it... and it will be used by BD-RB for UHD-BD encodings.

[laserfan]

I'm still working on the UHD-BD capability in BD-RB -- but I thought some of you might find this post (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=175120) interesting in the meantime.

Merry Christmas!

Yikes TSM2UHD???

I recall when BD-RB was just a gleam in your eye, what, eight? nine? years ago? and here you (still) are approaching 10 million views of this thread.

Congrats, Merry Christmas, and may you find some Amazon Wish List goodies under your tree!

[jdobbs]

Yikes TSM2UHD???

I recall when BD-RB was just a gleam in your eye, what, eight? nine? years ago? and here you (still) are approaching 10 million views of this thread.

Congrats, Merry Christmas, and may you find some Amazon Wish List goodies under your tree!Hard to believe it was that long ago, isn't it? I'm still hoping to earn the "longest software in beta" award.

[soneca]

I remember until today when Mr. Jerry Dobbs decided to release the first version of BD Rebuilder in 2008 for us more or less at that time, time flies, I was only testing after several versions because it was still "nailed" to DVD-Rebuilder and had not yet purchased a blu-ray driver. Although I participate little, I am always following this thread.

Merry Christmas to all!

[varekai]

Yep! DVD-Rebuilder was/is a great software and BD-RB is one-of-a-kind!
Happy holidays jdobbs!

[jdobbs]

Happy Holidays to all of you.

[Sharc]

Quick-play reauthoring mode with attempt to find the original background for BD import/Quick-play.
All went fine until:-
- Building menu structure .... ¨
seemed to last forever, until I noticed that the full feature was about to be copied as menu backdrop.

Inspecting the clip 00000.m2ts which most probably should have been used for the menu backdrop with media info:
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : K:\BD Movies\BD LOTR_RETURN_OF_THE_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
CompleteName_Last : K:\BD Movies\BD LOTR_RETURN_OF_THE_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00029.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video

I wonder whether the blue line was the culprit? (I have never seen the "CompleteName_Last" before.)

Anyway, I eventually remuxed with a static menu backdrop picture and all went fine.

Happy Holidays!

[jdobbs]

Quick-play reauthoring mode with attempt to find the original background for BD import/Quick-play.
All went fine until:-
- Building menu structure .... ¨
seemed to last forever, until I noticed that the full feature was about to be copied as menu backdrop.

Inspecting the clip 00000.m2ts which most probably should have been used for the menu backdrop with media info:
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : K:\BD Movies\BD LOTR_RETURN_OF_THE_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
CompleteName_Last : K:\BD Movies\BD LOTR_RETURN_OF_THE_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00029.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video

I wonder whether the blue line was the culprit? (I have never seen the "CompleteName_Last" before.)

Anyway, I eventually remuxed with a static menu backdrop picture and all went fine.

Happy Holidays!Now that's interesting.

[Lathe]

Quick-play reauthoring mode with attempt to find the original background for BD import/Quick-play.
All went fine until:-
- Building menu structure .... ¨
seemed to last forever, until I noticed that the full feature was about to be copied as menu backdrop.

Inspecting the clip 00000.m2ts which most probably should have been used for the menu backdrop with media info:
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : K:\BD Movies\BD LOTR_RETURN_OF_THE_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
CompleteName_Last : K:\BD Movies\BD LOTR_RETURN_OF_THE_KING\BDMV\STREAM\00029.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video

I wonder whether the blue line was the culprit? (I have never seen the "CompleteName_Last" before.)

Anyway, I eventually remuxed with a static menu backdrop picture and all went fine.

Happy Holidays!

Well, that WOULD save you one click if the movie were playing as the menu background...

[MrVideo]

Happy Holidays to ALL! :cool:

[Sharc]

Well, that WOULD save you one click if the movie were playing as the menu background...
Sharp reasoning! Bravo!

[duftopia]

Happy Holidays to ALL! :cool:

May your Beta bdrebuilder years last another 2 decades, and your forum live on forever in the library of congress :logfile:

[Lathe]

Sharp reasoning! Bravo!

Thanks! I must admit that I've learned a LOT from all you guys here... I really owe all I am and all I know to all of you! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif

[MrVideo]

Thanks! I must admit that I've learned a LOT from all you guys here... I really owe all I am and all I know to all of you! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif
I feel sorry for your school teachers. How did you ever graduate high school? :D

[Lathe]

I feel sorry for your school teachers. How did you ever graduate high school? :D


... and who says that I even WENT to high school...? http://lathe-of-heaven.com/neo.gif

[MrVideo]

... and who says that I even WENT to high school...?
There is that.

[gonca]

Thanks! I must admit that I've learned a LOT from all you guys here... I really owe all I am and all I know to all of you!
And after 10 seconds you must have fallen asleep

... and who says that I even WENT to high school...?
We didn't even accuse you of seeing the inside of a kindergarten room

[Lathe]

We didn't even accuse you of seeing the inside of a kindergarten room

Well, I just might see them more often now than you think, but, I don't really think it's necessary to get into that right now... :cool:

[jdobbs]

Well, I just might see them more often now than you think, but, I don't really think it's necessary to get into that right now... :cool:
That comment might be taken as a little scary...

[Lathe]

That comment might be taken as a little scary...

No, no, noooooo..... No NO! Not at all... Nah... Nope! Move along...
Nothing at all to see here... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/rolleyes2.gif

[AmigaFuture]

Does anyone have Stargate SG-1 Season 1 DVD 1?

Are you able to get the Pilot episode to look GOOD with IVTC or Deinterlace OR both? As well as not ignore the 16:9 during import OR okay after Import but not durring BD-25 Rerender (that's the objective with the rest of the episodes)? A little frustrated, I'll post more soon..

[MrVideo]

Does anyone have Stargate SG-1 Season 1 DVD 1?
I have it, but have no reason to do anything with the content.
Are you able to get the Pilot episode to look GOOD with IVTC or Deinterlace OR both?
One does not IVTC and de-interlace at the same time. It is one or the other. If you de-interlace, you can't IVTC and if you IVTC, there is nothing to de-interlace.

UPDATE: I took the first chapter of the pilot and ran it through my script to IVTC it and recode to H.264 (720x480p23.976 16:9). I used 4Mbps, 2-pass. The result looked really good, considering the 6Mbps MPEG-2 source.

I did have an issue in that the encoder doesn't seem to like 480i video (MPEG-2 or H.264), as it results in a green bar at the bottom of the image. But, as a test, I resized the video to 1020x1080 before recoding and the same green bar is there. The upscaled video looked damn good, again considering the source. So, it isn't the encoder, but the filter that does the IVTC work. Yep, it was the AVS filter set that I used. I changed to a different one and all was well.

Bottom line, I had no trouble doing IVTC to 23.976 and recoding to H.264.

[Thor263]

I've been playing around with BD Rebuilder and importing MKV files I've created myself with MakeMKV from my various discs. I've been trying some movie only MKVs, but am not having much success. Here's an example:

[12/26/17] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Working Path Free Space: 60.33GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[12/26/17] Systems Settings Check complete
----------------------
[19:16:59] Importing MKV: ELF
- Preparing MKV for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[21:02:30]ERROR: Failed to build BD structure. Aborted.
----------------------

There isn't much to go on in the log. Any ideas as to what I can check or try? Thanks!

[MrVideo]

I've been playing around with BD Rebuilder and importing MKV files I've created myself with MakeMKV from my various discs. I've been trying some movie only MKVs, but am not having much success.

There isn't much to go on in the log. Any ideas as to what I can check or try? Thanks!
Post the mediainfo output from one of your MKV files.

[duftopia]

I seriously Slept through High School, that is the picture they posted in the year book. I woke up in college, was amazed that there was actually something to be taught in the American School system. I look back on those de-population days and now think, GOD I can't wait to graduate from this....

Happy New Year (to smart eguys!), I'm 54 my brain is jello now!
DTroot!
Duf

[Lathe]

I seriously Slept through High School, that is the picture they posted in the year book. I woke up in college, was amazed that there was actually something to be taught in the American School system. I look back on those de-population days and now think, GOD I can't wait to graduate from this....

Happy New Year (to smart eguys!), I'm 54 my brain is jello now!
DTroot!
Duf

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif

[Thor263]

Post the mediainfo output from one of your MKV files.

Sure...

General
Unique ID : 41011939381608869408184187379477506722 (0x1EDA9CBA01D2DD16311208AC025DEAA2)
Complete name : /Volumes/Backups/Rip/Elf.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 16.9 GiB
Duration : 1 h 36 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 25.1 Mb/s
Movie name : elf
Encoded date : UTC 2017-12-17 17:30:48
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.10.8 darwin(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.10.8 (1.3.5/1.4.7) darwin(x64-release)
Original source medium : Blu-ray

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@L3
Codec ID : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / WVC1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 1 h 36 min
Bit rate : 22.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.442
Stream size : 14.8 GiB (88%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Audio
ID : 2
ID in the original source medium : 4353 (0x1101)
Format : TrueHD
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 1 h 36 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 512 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 2 970 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 1 200.000 FPS (40 spf)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 1.02 GiB (6%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text #1
ID : 3
ID in the original source medium : 4608 (0x1200)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 1 h 30 min
Bit rate : 409 kb/s
Count of elements : 13409
Stream size : 265 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #2
ID : 5
ID in the original source medium : 4609 (0x1201)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 1 h 30 min
Bit rate : 446 kb/s
Count of elements : 13090
Stream size : 289 MiB (2%)
Language : German
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #3
ID : 7
ID in the original source medium : 4610 (0x1202)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 1 h 36 min
Bit rate : 356 kb/s
Count of elements : 12785
Stream size : 245 MiB (1%)
Language : Spanish
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #4
ID : 9
ID in the original source medium : 4611 (0x1203)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 1 h 29 min
Bit rate : 139 kb/s
Count of elements : 4362
Stream size : 88.6 MiB (1%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #5
ID : 11
ID in the original source medium : 4612 (0x1204)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 1 h 29 min
Bit rate : 164 kb/s
Count of elements : 4364
Stream size : 105 MiB (1%)
Language : German
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #6
ID : 13
ID in the original source medium : 4613 (0x1205)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Duration : 1 h 29 min
Bit rate : 157 kb/s
Count of elements : 4362
Stream size : 100 MiB (1%)
Language : Spanish
Default : No
Forced : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:03:45.934 : en:Chapter 02
00:08:59.247 : en:Chapter 03
00:14:42.423 : en:Chapter 04
00:21:44.511 : en:Chapter 05
00:25:20.810 : en:Chapter 06
00:33:31.551 : en:Chapter 07
00:38:17.837 : en:Chapter 08
00:42:48.607 : en:Chapter 09
00:51:21.286 : en:Chapter 10
00:57:59.809 : en:Chapter 11
01:05:09.071 : en:Chapter 12
01:07:14.905 : en:Chapter 13
01:12:01.275 : en:Chapter 14
01:17:48.372 : en:Chapter 15
01:25:31.876 : en:Chapter 16
01:31:12.175 : en:Chapter 17

[MrVideo]

Looks like the boss, jdobbs, is going to have to chime in on this one. I was thinking it was an audio issue, but that shouldn't be it. I've suggested that more info regarding errors be placed in the log, to help with problems like this.

[gonca]

Thor263
Try running your MKV thru MKVToolNIX and then try to import the result