BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

jdobbs about

Removed the encoder choice menu item. FRIM as an encoder choice for 2D causes too many issues.
For those who would like to test it further, you can reenable it by adding ENCODER_MENU=1 to the config/ini file.

The option is still there in the settings menu to use in 47.06 (Use FRIMSource for frame serving). Forgot to remove it in the GUI or will it when selected on a 2D source automatically use x264 or DGdecNV instead?That's different. That's using FRIM for frame serving. I removed FRIMEncode and the ENCODING menu. You can still select FRIMSource.

[Ch3vr0n]

kk, then i never even saw it. Only saw that one :) Mine's at automatic ^^

[soneca]

What makes that odd is that BD Rebuilder also uses TSMUXER when it demuxes and remuxes the subtitles.

jdobbs, the same happened using RipBot264 which also uses tsMuxeR(1.10.6) to do the same job.
This has happened with other movie(can not remember the title) where the playlist was also composed of more than one stream. :confused:

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, the same happened using RipBot264 which also uses tsMuxeR(1.10.6) to do the same job.
This has happened with other movie(can not remember the title) where the playlist was also composed of more than one stream. :confused:Good. At least that rules out the newer TSMUXER version (2.6.12) that BD-RB uses.

I tested encoding "Delivery Man" and I get the same anomaly, the subtitles stop right at the connection point between the first and second M2TS.

It has to be something peculiar about this title (or the SUP) -- as I have lots of multipart examples that don't exhibit this issue.

[CraigWally]

Found it. That M2TS (00021.M2TS) was referenced in more than one MPLS. The first MPLS was using it as a 2D source and the second as 3D. My code wasn't accounting for that possibility. That's definitely a bug. I've fixed it for the next release. In fact I may create an interim release just to fix that one.

New version confirmed as working on my African Safari Disc

Thanks
Wally

[mparade]

All the elements of all the playlists under "Other Movie-Only Playlist" will not be considered extras by BD-RB during making a Full Backup.

Is this statement correct?

Thanks for the help in advance!

Edit: Yes, it is. They are considered as main content as they should be! Great job, jdobbs!

[dfox990]

Code:

Removed the encoder choice menu item. FRIM as an encoder choice for 2D causes too many issues.
For those who would like to test it further, you can reenable it by adding ENCODER_MENU=1 to the config/ini file.

Help, newbie here. Attempted to add "ENCODER_MENU=1" to config/ini in 0.47.06 but still does not show as an option under settings as it does in 0.47.05.

Thanks

[jdobbs]

Code:

Removed the encoder choice menu item. FRIM as an encoder choice for 2D causes too many issues.
For those who would like to test it further, you can reenable it by adding ENCODER_MENU=1 to the config/ini file.

Help, newbie here. Attempted to add "ENCODER_MENU=1" to config/ini in 0.47.06 but still does not show as an option under settings as it does in 0.47.05.

ThanksUnfortunately that is a mistake on my part. A last minute change caused the menu be enabled but not show up. I'll fix it for the next release. In the meantime in order to select FRIM for encoding you have to make sure both of these are set:

ENCODER_MENU=1
ENCODER=1

Note that ENCODER may already be in the INI, you just have to change the value.

Sorry about that.

[kaminar]

Hello,

This is my first post, even though I've been using the awesome BD-RB for a while now. I'm no expert, but am familiar with most options. Am sure there is a lot I must learn :)

I'm here to ask for some help..

I have an issue that has baffled me for some time. First, let's just say I like to encode Full BDs to BD25 and BD5. For the most part, BD5 results are amazing. My preferred BD-RB SETUP settings for BD5 are as follows:

==Either v0.47.04 or v0.47.06==

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Audio Language:
English (only)

Subtitle Language:
English and Spanish (only)

Video Encoding Options:
Resize 1920x1080 to 1280x720
Use Deinterlacer
Process 3D to 2D

Audio Encoding Options:
Do not convert DTS to ACS (Blu-ray only)
Do not reencode AC3 (Blu-ray only)
Keep HD Audio for BD25/Alternate intact

Alternative Decoding Options:
none (i have tried X264's internal LAVF, but have read it's ok to uncheck, since there is no difference)

General Encoding Options:
Strict AVCHD for BD5/9 movie only
Beep at job completion

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Config File:

[Options]
VERSION=0.47.0.6
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=20
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=1
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=1
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
DGDECIM=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=1
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
[Paths]

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My issue has to do with output size for BD5. Typically, I'd expect approximately 4.25GB size (settings show target is 4.36GB). This is great and most BD's encode near to that number (4.16 to 4.25).

Over the past year, I've noticed some BD's encode to smaller output sizes, from 4.09GB down to 3.58GB. This struck me as odd, and I've tried several methods to "work around" this issue, to no avail. I'm hoping someone can help me fix this situation.

Recently, I've noticed there is a correlation with M2TS Bitrate and total Frames. The correlation is this. On a BD5 of approx 4.16 to 4.25GB, Total Bitrate x Total Frames ~ 700,000,000+. Not sure what that number represents, only know that it's very consistent.

The actual range is approx. 690,000,000 to 710,000,000 (since output size varies, as mentioned above). I've never seen the bitrate too high to fit on a DVD-R. On the other hand, about 1 or 2 out of 10 BDs are encoding too small (outside the variation), due to video bitrate sizes.

Below are examples of low video bitrates:

AC3=640

[05/05/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.06 (beta)
[13:31:32] Source: TRANSFORMERS_00010
- Input BD size: 42.11 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:23:27.307]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resize: 1080p to 720p enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:31:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:31:39] Processing: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [13:31:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [13:38:39] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 206,369 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 206,369 frames
- Bitrate: 2,693 Kbs
- [13:38:39] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
[13:38:55]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
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AC3=448

[05/05/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.06 (beta)
[13:45:12] Source: TRANSFORMERS_00010
- Input BD size: 42.11 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:23:27.307]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resize: 1080p to 720p enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
- Resuming from previously started job.
[13:45:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:45:20] Processing: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [13:45:23] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 206,369 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 206,369 frames
- Bitrate: 2,907 Kbs
- [13:45:24] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
[13:45:35]PHASE ONE aborted by user request


By extrapolating, simple math shows the bitrate should be between 3343 to 3440 Kbs (690,000,000/206369=3343; 700,000,000/206,369=3391; 710,000,000/206369=3440)

Now, I realize this is very approximate, but I think it's relevant. I've tried searching here and on google for something relating to this issue. No luck until today. I found a post here on Doom9 which is slightly related:

Link: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=158828&highlight=bitrate+bd5&page=11#204

I also found a bitrate calculator which kind of confirms my theory (also via one of Doom9's threads):

Link: http://tools.twanwintjes.nl/index.php?page=avchdcalculator

It estimated the bitrate for BD5 should be 3438 Kbps (using AC3=640)

Could it be due to an internal x264 bitrate calculator that we have no control over?

Is there any solution for my dilemna?

Any help is much appreciated!! :)

Thank you!
-=K=-

[Sharc]

@kaminar
The video bitrate depends on:
- Target size (e.g. 4.36 GB)
- Duration of the movie (= number of frames/framerate)
- Number of audio streams you want to keep and audio format
- Number of subtitles you want to keep
- Multiplexing overhead (which itself depends on the audio format)

Apparently you aborted both of your examples before completion, assuming that the video bitrate is "low".
Did you ever complete and burn these 2 projects to disc, and if so, how was the resulting fill factor (in %) of these discs?
If it is in the order of 95% there is nothing to worry as you won't notice a visual difference compared to a 100% filled disc.

Secondly, it looks like you kept the DTS audio format. Uncheck "Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-ray only)" in the Settings/Setup, and you should then get a video bitrate around 3400 kbps.

[kaminar]

@kaminar
The video bitrate depends on:
- Target size (e.g. 4.36 GB)
- Duration of the movie (= number of frames/framerate)
- Number of audio streams you want to keep and audio format
- Number of subtitles you want to keep
- Multiplexing overhead (which itself depends on the audio format)

Apparently you aborted both of your examples before completion, assuming that the video bitrate is "low".
Did you ever complete and burn these 2 projects to disc, and if so, how was the resulting fill factor (in %) of these discs?
If it is in the order of 95% there is nothing to worry as you won't notice a visual difference compared to a 100% filled disc.

Secondly, it looks like you kept the DTS audio format. Uncheck "Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-ray only)" in the Settings/Setup, and you should then get a video bitrate around 3400 kbps.

I totally agree..for BD5, using just 1 language track (English) and 2 subs (Eng/Spa) whenever possible. I'll try unchecking the "Do Not Convert DTS to AC3", but it always converts to AC3 for BD5 (not for BD25). Not sure there would be much room for video otherwise. Is there a lot of overhead for AC3 at 640 Kbs?

Yes, I've completed them before..total output size is in the range of ~85% filled when completed, but I will try again today. TBH, the video doesn't look bad. The sound is great. It just nags at me that it could look 20%+ better (video, not total output), lol.

Will chime in again later.

-=K=-

[RobertM]

I noticed the same thing as you, Kaminar; consistent undersizing relative to what I want - but in my case it is on the BD-25 target size. My solution was to simply use a custom target size. I now specify 24200 MB as a matter of course, and my disc fills are consistently 97 to 98% - can't remember the last time I had an oversize. I would suggest just taking the default BD-5 size and add 5 to 10% and see what happens. If it ends up too large then back off a bit.

You'll have people say that you are risking bad read/writes at the edge of the disc, but you are burning to a single-layer medium, like i am, so that risk would manifest itself only in the credits for a movie-only rebuild (I presume that's what you're doing). Having said that, I've never seen a problem at the end of a disc - not once. I use respectable media, of course: Verbatim.

Yes, I've completed them before..total output size is in the range of ~85% filled when completed


I went back and looked at my old log files to see when I made this change. In fact, it was 2 years ago; Apr. 2012. Prior to that I had used the default setting for BD-25. But I started to notice that, at some point, my rebuilds started to seem smaller than I recalled in the past, with ImgBurn reporting fill sizes in the low 90% range, where I had been more used to the upper-mid 90% range.

At this point I can't say if this was mere perception on my part - lots of water under the bridge at this point - but I do recall deciding that I had to deviate from the default setting. My custom size is only 3% larger (24200 vs 23500) so it's not a big modification.

[jdobbs]

@kaminar

Please post the log after you've modified the DTS setting. My best guess is that the DTS file is huge and is the cause of the lower bitrate. It isn't unusual for DTS sources to take up a quarter to half of a BD-25 for the audio alone. Also, most audio formats are very inefficient to mux into an M2TS file, and require 14-15% overhead -- so you have to add 14% to the size of the DTS file.

In addition, as Sharc commented, I notice that you decided to keep HD audio. From that standpoint you were pretty lucky with this encode. With "Keep HD" set there are some discs in which the source might take up the entire BD-5 for DTS HD audio alone....

You pretty much always need to reencode to AC3 to backup a BD-5 disc.

[rusty666]

hi i have just done a 3d bd25 and set OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 and it didnt give me a ssif file just m2ts?

[Ch3vr0n]

did you do a movie only encode? That setting only applies to movie-only mode. If you do full disc mode it doesn't need the ssif types

[rusty666]

thanx. i just muxed it with tsmuxer and it gave the ssif file but it only played in 2d?

[Ch3vr0n]

that wasn't the question

[rusty666]

full movie was ticked by mistake. it only seems to play in 2d on my player

[Ch3vr0n]

when backing up full disc it doesn't use ssif because it doesn't need to. it uses in-mux 3D. anyways i'd recommend to post a log

[rusty666]

thanx ill try again with movie only see if it will play in 3d

[kaminar]

I noticed the same thing as you, Kaminar; consistent undersizing relative to what I want - but in my case it is on the BD-25 target size. My solution was to simply use a custom target size. I now specify 24200 MB as a matter of course, and my disc fills are consistently 97 to 98% - can't remember the last time I had an oversize. I would suggest just taking the default BD-5 size and add 5 to 10% and see what happens. If it ends up too large then back off a bit.

You'll have people say that you are risking bad read/writes at the edge of the disc, but you are burning to a single-layer medium, like i am, so that risk would manifest itself only in the credits for a movie-only rebuild (I presume that's what you're doing). Having said that, I've never seen a problem at the end of a disc - not once. I use respectable media, of course: Verbatim.




I went back and looked at my old log files to see when I made this change. In fact, it was 2 years ago; Apr. 2012. Prior to that I had used the default setting for BD-25. But I started to notice that, at some point, my rebuilds started to seem smaller than I recalled in the past, with ImgBurn reporting fill sizes in the low 90% range, where I had been more used to the upper-mid 90% range.

At this point I can't say if this was mere perception on my part - lots of water under the bridge at this point - but I do recall deciding that I had to deviate from the default setting. My custom size is only 3% larger (24200 vs 23500) so it's not a big modification.


@RobertM

Yes, I just noticed the same thing for BD-25, with the same BD. Total output size was approx 13GB. Anyway, for the sake of trying, I encoded to a BD-25, then used that for the BD-5 encode. It worked very well for reaching the desired BD-5 output size, but encoding twice has always been frowned upon. Always "movie only" for BD-5.

Verbatim is great media. I use Verbatim DVD+RW for testing, then JVC/Taiyo-Yuden #TYG02 for final. In truth, if the Verbatim DVD+RWs were priced right, I'd use them instead for final. It has that lovely hard coat/silver bottom. The Taiyo-Yuden's are nice as well, but not as silvery on the bottom.

I've tried remuxing to MKV, but BD-5 encode from that is exactly the same as from original BD. I've also tried using custom size @ 4469 (instead of BD-5 default), with no impact. I can always try again :)

Still scratching my head in confusion. I may have to face it that some BDs cooperate as planned, and some do not. I won't give up and will continue testing :)

Sigh..

@kaminar

Please post the log after you've modified the DTS setting. My best guess is that the DTS file is huge and is the cause of the lower bitrate. It isn't unusual for DTS sources to take up a quarter to half of a BD-25 for the audio alone. Also, most audio formats are very inefficient to mux into an M2TS file, and require 14-15% overhead -- so you have to add 14% to the size of the DTS file.

In addition, as Sharc commented, I notice that you decided to keep HD audio. From that standpoint you were pretty lucky with this encode. With "Keep HD" set there are some discs in which the source might take up the entire BD-5 for DTS HD audio alone....

You pretty much always need to reencode to AC3 to backup a BD-5 disc.

@JDobbs

Thanks so much for your reply! I love your software :)

There may have been some confusion with settings used, since I did not include an image. For BD-5, all audio boxes checked or unchecked are for the purpose of encoding to AC3 5.1 @ 640 Kbs. With regard to the checkbox for "Do Not Convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-ray Only)", it has never had an effect for my BD-5s. It's my understanding that it only affects BD-25/50--is that correct? For BD-5, whether I keep it checked or unchecked has had no impact on audio. The conversion to AC3 is done correctly. Today I left it unchecked, as requested. Please see the log file below. The total output size is 3.66GB.

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[05/06/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.06 (beta)
[07:02:38] Source: TRANSFORMERS_00010
- Input BD size: 42.11 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:23:27.307]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resize: 1080p to 720p enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[07:02:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:02:49] Processing: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [07:02:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [07:09:37] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 206,369 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 206,369 frames
- Bitrate: 2,693 Kbs
- [07:09:37] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:43:34] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:41:27] Video Encode complete
- [08:41:27] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original core audio
[08:41:47]PHASE ONE complete
[08:41:47]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:41:47] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[08:45:25] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[08:45:25] JOB: TRANSFORMERS finished.

I checked MediaInfo for the resulting BD-5 .m2ts file to match up the bitrate with BD-RB. MediaInfo for the BD-5 is as follows:

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : V:\WORKING\TRANSFORMERS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 3.66 GiB
Duration : 2h 23mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 3 653 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 856 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.129
Stream size : 2.86 GiB (78%)

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 657 MiB (18%)

Text #1
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #2
ID : 4609 (0x1201)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144



Both logs show similar video bitrates (MediaInfo bitrate shows approx 6% larger). In my experience, AC3 5.1 audio is almost always 650-700Mb in size (my only guess is for 3-4 hour movies it should be larger). BD-RB settings are nearly automatic, so I am still stumped..for now. Am hoping a solution comes my way, and I shall keep testing as mentioned above. Just FYI, some other BDs that are not cooperating fully are Transformers: Dark of the Moon, Bram Stoker's Dracula and Rear Window. The output sizes vary slightly, but are all below 4GB. Please understand these are in the minority. 90% of BDs cooperate and output size is fairly uniform in the 4.10 to 4.25GB range.

I hope the logs help :)

Thanks again for all the kind responses!

-=K=-

[jdobbs]

hi i have just done a 3d bd25 and set OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 and it didnt give me a ssif file just m2ts?That can't happen. Unless you've said to ignore 3D you get an ISO file that has a SSIF folder.

[Sharc]

@kaminar
I am not sure if this really matters for BD5, however I notice that you still have HD=1 (Keep HD Audio ... ).
What happens when you unselect it? Maybe BD-RB calculates a larger muxing overhead when HD=1 is set? Just speculating. I didn't try but I always encode with HD=0 for BD5/9. I don't have your discs so I cannot verify.

[Edit]:
Hmmm....... the video bitrate of your encode would be just about right if you would have kept two AC3 640 audio tracks. But apparently you selected only one (english) audio, and 2 sups......

[rusty666]

ive restarted the project on movie only . i have checked ignore 3d=0 . but that means it not enabled doesnt it as you have to put =1?. hopefully it will output and play in 3d this time

[kaminar]

@kaminar
I am not sure if this really matters for BD5, however I notice that you still have HD=1 (Keep HD Audio ... ).
What happens when you unselect it? Maybe BD-RB calculates a larger muxing overhead when HD=1 is set? Just speculating. I didn't try but I always encode with HD=0 for BD5/9. I don't have your discs so I cannot verify.

[Edit]:
Hmmm....... the video bitrate of your encode would be just about right if you would have kept two AC3 640 audio tracks. But apparently you selected only one (english) audio, and 2 sups......

@Sharc

Thanks for replying! Like yourself, I keep HD=0 for BD-5. Whether I check or uncheck the "Do Not Convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-ray only)", it has no impact. BD-RB always converts to AC3. In the case of BD-5, HD=1 or HD=0 has the exact same result. Your suggestion re: muxing overhead is interesting..I will try both--one with the box checked (HD=0) and then unchecked (HD=1), to compare. Thank you :)

As for experimenting, I'm trying custom sizes for BD-5 for the BD listed above. So far, output results for custom size are as follows:

1. 4469 (3.66GB output size)
2. 4476 (3.66GB)
3. 5000 (4.70GB)
4. 4750 (3.93GB)
5. 4876 (??)

Am trying 4876 now. Will continue to narrow it down by half until the result falls into range. :) Heck, who knows, it could by my system. It shouldn't be, but impossible to say. The encodes are clean and relatively fast.

-=K=-

[mparade]

When making BD3D backups, is the AVC stream being reencoded by x264 (with the current setup parameters) while
the MVC stream is done by FrimEncode (using ABR method and similar quality parameters as the current ones for x264)? Can be used CRF method for the AVC stream in a BD3D backup?

[jdobbs]

When making BD3D backups, is the AVC stream being reencoded by x264 (with the current setup parameters) while
the MVC stream is done by FrimEncode (using ABR method and similar quality parameters as the current ones for x264)? Can be used CRF method for the AVC stream in a BD3D backup?No. That isn't possible because the MVC stream is actually dependent on the AVC portion and they must be encoded together. 3D encodes are done entirely by FRIMEncode.

No. CRF does not exist in FRIMEncode.

[mparade]

No. That isn't possible because the MVC stream is actually dependent on the AVC portion and they must be encoded together. 3D encodes are done entirely by FRIMEncode.

No. CRF does not exist in FRIMEncode.

Thank you very much for the information. Even by other very expensive MVC encoders CRF is not available either (just CBR and VBR). I was just interested in CRF because I am very satisfied with the results of that method in BD-RB.

[G1nger]

I have a 3D MKV MVC file (Gravity) made using MakeMKV approximately 26/27 GB in size. I'd like to make a 3D ISO file which I can burn to a 25GB disc. What are my best option selections for success? I just tried using the import option "Video File (SBS source)" and the ISO file output size was under 2GB. Should I be using the other import option "Video Files"? What am I doing wrong?

Thanks, G

[rusty666]

is theer any reason why the 3d bd25 encodes would not play proper on samsung player c. d. e series or ps3?

[jdobbs]

is theer any reason why the 3d bd25 encodes would not play proper on samsung player c. d. e series or ps3?No. The output is completely compliant with standards.

[rusty666]

thanx. it works fine in my player but just them series of samsung

[dfox990]

Recently did 3D BD25 iso movie only backup of "The legend Of Hercules" using FRIMEncode. Used media players PCH-A400 and Micca EP600 and a Panny DMP-BDT210 for playback. BDRB source was a AnyDVD iso. Created BDRB output would not play as 3D for either of the media players. However, a created 3D Disc played as 3D in the Panny. Also, a 3D iso, created by DVDFxx (from the same AnyDVD iso) played as 3D in both media players. Would like to add that FRIMENcode is great. Around 140 fps for AVC and 47 fps for MVC using i5-3570K. Will provide whatever logs, etc necessary upon request.

Thanks

Sorry guys, false alarm on the above. After reviewing the logs, I had overlooked that IMGBurn had an error when creating the iso. I reran the job today and both nedia players recognized it as 3D. I'll do my best to scrutinize the logs more closely in the future before posting.......peace

dfox990

[AmigaFuture]

A bug? The secondary video is being reencoded for each movie I process at BD50. Has anyone else noticed that? With FORCE_NOENCODE=1, too.

[05/08/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.05 (beta)
[12:25:43] Source: NIMS_ISLAND
- Input BD size: 34.56 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:56:28.852]
- Target BD size: 46.26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:25:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00033 (1 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00021 (2 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00059 (3 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00057 (4 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00058 (5 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00020 (6 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00077 (7 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00055 (8 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00056 (9 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Blanking: VID_00004 (10 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Processing: VID_00087 (11 of 45)
- [12:25:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00087]
- [12:26:00] Reencoding video [VID_00087]
- [12:26:00] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:26:00] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:26:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:26:04] Processing: VID_00108 (12 of 45)
- [12:26:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- [12:26:08] Reencoding video [VID_00108]
- [12:26:08] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:26:08] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:26:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:26:12] Processing: VID_00104 (13 of 45)
- [12:26:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [12:26:17] Reencoding video [VID_00104]
- [12:26:17] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:26:17] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:26:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:26:22] Processing: VID_00097 (14 of 45)
- [12:26:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00097]
- [12:26:27] Reencoding video [VID_00097]
- [12:26:27] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:26:27] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:26:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:26:31] Processing: VID_00089 (15 of 45)
- [12:26:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00089]
- [12:26:36] Reencoding video [VID_00089]
- [12:26:36] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:26:36] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:26:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:26:40] Blanking: VID_00019 (16 of 45)
- [12:26:40] Processing: VID_00092 (17 of 45)
- [12:26:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [12:26:46] Reencoding video [VID_00092]
- [12:26:46] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:26:46] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:26:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:26:50] Processing: VID_00094 (18 of 45)
- [12:26:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [12:26:55] Reencoding video [VID_00094]
- [12:26:55] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:26:55] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:26:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:27:00] Processing: VID_00100 (19 of 45)
- [12:27:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [12:27:06] Reencoding video [VID_00100]
- [12:27:06] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:27:06] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:27:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:27:11] Processing: VID_00085 (20 of 45)
- [12:27:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00085]
- [12:27:16] Reencoding video [VID_00085]
- [12:27:17] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:27:17] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:27:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:27:22] Processing: VID_00103 (21 of 45)
- [12:27:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
- [12:27:27] Reencoding video [VID_00103]
- [12:27:27] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:27:27] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:27:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:27:32] Processing: VID_00098 (22 of 45)
- [12:27:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00098]
- [12:27:37] Reencoding video [VID_00098]
- [12:27:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:27:37] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:27:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:27:43] Processing: VID_00084 (23 of 45)
- [12:27:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00084]
- [12:27:48] Reencoding video [VID_00084]
- [12:27:48] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:27:48] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:27:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:27:53] Processing: VID_00099 (24 of 45)
- [12:27:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00099]
- [12:27:58] Reencoding video [VID_00099]
- [12:27:58] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:27:58] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:27:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:28:04] Processing: VID_00096 (25 of 45)
- [12:28:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
- [12:28:09] Reencoding video [VID_00096]
- [12:28:09] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:28:09] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:28:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:28:14] Processing: VID_00091 (26 of 45)
- [12:28:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00091]
- [12:28:21] Reencoding video [VID_00091]
- [12:28:21] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:28:21] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:28:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:28:26] Processing: VID_00093 (27 of 45)
- [12:28:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
- [12:28:32] Reencoding video [VID_00093]
- [12:28:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:28:32] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:28:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:28:38] Processing: VID_00086 (28 of 45)
- [12:28:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00086]
- [12:28:44] Reencoding video [VID_00086]
- [12:28:44] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:28:44] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:28:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:28:50] Processing: VID_00106 (29 of 45)
- [12:28:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- [12:28:56] Reencoding video [VID_00106]
- [12:28:56] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:28:56] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:28:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:29:02] Processing: VID_00101 (30 of 45)
- [12:29:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [12:29:08] Reencoding video [VID_00101]
- [12:29:08] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:29:08] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:29:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:29:15] Processing: VID_00102 (31 of 45)
- [12:29:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00102]
- [12:29:21] Reencoding video [VID_00102]
- [12:29:21] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:29:21] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:29:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:29:28] Processing: VID_00105 (32 of 45)
- [12:29:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
- [12:29:34] Reencoding video [VID_00105]
- [12:29:34] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:29:34] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:29:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:29:41] Processing: VID_00107 (33 of 45)
- [12:29:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00107]
- [12:29:47] Reencoding video [VID_00107]
- [12:29:47] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:29:47] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:29:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:29:54] Processing: VID_00080 (34 of 45)
- [12:29:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00080]
- [12:30:01] Reencoding video [VID_00080]
- [12:30:01] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:30:01] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:30:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:30:08] Processing: VID_00095 (35 of 45)
- [12:30:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [12:30:15] Reencoding video [VID_00095]
- [12:30:15] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:30:15] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:30:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:30:22] Processing: VID_00088 (36 of 45)
- [12:30:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00088]
- [12:30:29] Reencoding video [VID_00088]
- [12:30:29] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:30:29] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:30:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:30:38] Processing: VID_00090 (37 of 45)
- [12:30:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
- [12:30:45] Reencoding video [VID_00090]
- [12:30:45] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:30:45] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:30:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:30:53] Processing: VID_00079 (38 of 45)
- [12:30:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00079]
- [12:31:02] Reencoding video [VID_00079]
- [12:31:02] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:31:02] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:31:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:31:13] Processing: VID_00083 (39 of 45)
- [12:31:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00083]
- [12:31:23] Reencoding video [VID_00083]
- [12:31:23] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:31:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:31:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:31:38] Processing: VID_00081 (40 of 45)
- [12:31:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [12:31:47] Reencoding video [VID_00081]
- [12:31:47] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:31:47] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:31:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:32:01] Processing: VID_00074 (41 of 45)
- [12:32:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [12:32:12] Reencoding video [VID_00074]
- [12:32:12] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:32:12] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:32:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:32:27] Processing: VID_00082 (42 of 45)
- [12:32:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00082]
- [12:32:37] Reencoding video [VID_00082]
- [12:32:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:32:37] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:32:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:32:52] Processing: VID_00075 (43 of 45)
- [12:32:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00075]
- [12:33:03] Reencoding video [VID_00075]
- [12:33:03] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:33:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:33:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:33:19] Processing: VID_00078 (44 of 45)
- [12:33:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [12:33:33] Reencoding video [VID_00078]
- [12:33:33] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:33:33] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:33:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:33:53] Processing: VID_00002 (45 of 45)
- [12:33:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [12:40:42] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [12:40:42] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [12:46:42] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:46:42] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 6656 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:46:42] Multiplexing M2TS
[13:03:20]PHASE ONE complete
[13:03:20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:03:20] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[13:03:46] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[13:03:46] JOB: NIMS_ISLAND finished.

[mparade]

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[05.09.14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.05 (beta)
[22:29:03] Source: THE_CROODS
- Input BD size: 5,04 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:35.479]
- Target BD size: 2,27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Ultra High Quality (Extremely Slow), ABR
- Output folder: E:\adat\Downloads\BD-RB\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:29:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:29:03] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [22:29:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [22:30:30] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
- Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 141*887 frames
- Bitrate: 2*263 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for AVC encoding
- [22:30:30] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
[22:30:31] - Failed video encode, aborted

The same encode was successfully completed with x264 CRF method.
The only difference in the set up was changing to custom target size due to ABR encoding.

If someone has an idea, please let me know, it
would be much appreciated.

[RobertM]

What are you actually rebuilding? That's not a legit input size for any BD disc that I've seen.

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[05.09.14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.05 (beta)
[22:29:03] Source: THE_CROODS
- Input BD size: 5,04 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:35.479]
- Target BD size: 2,27 GB

[mparade]

What are you actually rebuilding? That's not a legit input size for any BD disc that I've seen.

This is my Croods DVD and would like to accomplish an AVC encoded stream made by FRIM on it's main movie title using the import function of BD-RB. I think the problem may be with the frame-serving, but I haven't checked yet other than DirectShowSource.

[Groucho2004]

This is my Croods DVD and would like to accomplish an AVC encoded stream made by FRIM on it's main movie title using the import function of BD-RB. I think the problem may be with the frame-serving, but I haven't checked yet other than DirectShowSource.
Why do you want to use the inferior FRIM encoder?

[mparade]

Why do you want to use the inferior FRIM encoder?

Just to compare the result to the one made by x264 by putting them into a quality measurement tool for testing through avs scripts.

@jdobbs
Sorry, I did not want to generate possible bug reports due to my test purposes.

[polik]

Hi. When BD-3D is reencoded or not reencoded too, to the in-mux structure for BD-3D output and then when I open movie playlist in the tsmuxer 2.6.12 something it's not right.
Tsmuxer open that playlist and everything looks ok but when I’m trying to export movie it shows error: "Current playlist file doesn't has MVC track info. Please, remove MVC track from the track list".
Tsmuxer is not able to do anything with that playlist.

[jdobbs]

Hi. When BD-3D is reencoded or not reencoded too, to the in-mux structure for BD-3D output and then when I open movie playlist in the tsmuxer 2.6.12 something it's not right.
Tsmuxer open that playlist and everything looks ok but when I’m trying to export movie it shows error: "Current playlist file doesn't has MVC track info. Please, remove MVC track from the track list".
Tsmuxer is not able to do anything with that playlist.Hmmm.... unfortunately my first guess is that this may be an error in TSMUXER. You can open the M2TS fine directly, but you get that error when you try opening the MPLS.

I'll do some testing and see what I can find.

[Edit]

Yes. I can confirm it is a TSMUXER error. I just tried to remux from a commercial disc that uses in-mux MVC (e.g. AVATAR 3D, playlist 00003) and TSMUXER fails there as well. TSMUXER issues are beyond my control.

There is no issue, however, when using BD Rebuilder. BD-RB uses the M2TS directly and it applies all MPLS characteristics (such as chapters) during the rebuild. So, since BD-Rebuilder processes the MPLS itself, the TSMUXER error doesn't affect the its functioning.

If you want to create a movie-only version of an in-mux 3D, just select that playlist from within BD-RB and let it run. No problems.

The bottom line is that while your report is accurate -- it has no impact on, nor is it a bug within BD Rebuilder.

[andref4]

Hi jdobbs,

I have problems with full 3D backup of the movie Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 3D. The movie has multi-view/ multi-angle with multiple playlists.
If I mount the iso, rebuilding stops at the end by converting SSIF file references (see log).
If I rip the movie to an HDD folder, rebuilding finish but the movie hangs between 7.30 - 7,50min. and crashes.
Same result with xVxFab. But a movie only rip or 3D SBS full 3D backup works! I try to make a full 3D 25GB backup of this movie since end of February with diffrent programs but no one can handle this movie. At the moment the only thing is to burn the movie to a BD 50GB or make a movie only backup to BD 25GB. :(

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[05.07.14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.06 (beta)
[04:21:27] Source: CLOUDY_2
- Input BD size: 31,57 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:05:56.170]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[04:21:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:21:27] Processing: VID_00102 (1 of 5)
- [04:21:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00102]
- [04:21:42] Reencoding video [VID_00102]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 6.887 frames
- Bitrate: 5.999 Kbs
- [04:21:42] Reencoding: VID_00102, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:23:30] Video Encode complete
- [04:23:30] Processing audio tracks
- [04:23:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:23:41] Processing: VID_00341 (2 of 5)
- [04:23:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00341]
- [04:23:55] Reencoding video [VID_00341]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.051 frames
- Bitrate: 17.094 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [04:23:55] Reencoding: VID_00341, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:31:26] Video Encode complete
- [04:31:26] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [04:31:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:31:36] Scanning for 3D CLPI info...
- [04:31:40] Processing: VID_00344 (3 of 5)
- [04:31:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00344]
- [04:33:42] Reencoding video [VID_00344]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 10.903 frames
- Bitrate: 25.167 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [04:33:42] Reencoding: VID_00344, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:13:09] Video Encode complete
- [05:13:09] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [05:13:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:15:12] Scanning for 3D CLPI info...
- [05:15:43] Processing: VID_00345 (4 of 5)
- [05:15:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00345]
- [05:15:55] Reencoding video [VID_00345]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 425 frames
- Bitrate: 22.232 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [05:15:55] Reencoding: VID_00345, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:17:30] Video Encode complete
- [05:17:30] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [05:17:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:17:36] Scanning for 3D CLPI info...
- [05:17:37] Processing: VID_00346 (5 of 5)
- [05:17:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00346]
- [05:35:09] Reencoding video [VID_00346]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 125.112 frames
- Bitrate: 24.366 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [05:35:09] Reencoding: VID_00346, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:00:18] Video Encode complete
- [13:00:19] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:00:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:16:24] Scanning for 3D CLPI info...
[13:22:23]PHASE ONE complete
[13:22:23]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:22:23] Converting SSIF file references
- ERROR: 3D remuxing failed. Aborted.
- Failed to rebuild BD file(s). Aborted.
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[05.07.14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.06 (beta)
[13:25:01] Source: CLOUDY_2
- Input BD size: 31,57 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:05:56.170]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[13:25:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[13:25:09]PHASE ONE complete
[13:25:09]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:25:09] Converting SSIF file references
- ERROR: 3D remuxing failed. Aborted.
- Failed to rebuild BD file(s). Aborted.
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[jdobbs]

@andref4

I don't have that disc so I ordered it. This will be my first time ordering a used disc through Amazon, so I'm not sure about the delivery date... I just have to try and keep my personal costs down so it is limited to no more than my donation totals -- I just can't justify (to myself) going in the hole financially to maintain freeware.

[Patrick]

I just noticed that BD rebuilder versions starting with 0.47.xx cannot open "Lord of the rings - return of the king extended edition (disc2)"
Error 2501 (20:58:56) SourceCheck() 00055 2501
appears in V00.47.05
All versions prior to 00.47.xx have no problems.

[andref4]

@andref4

I don't have that disc so I ordered it. This will be my first time ordering a used disc through Amazon, so I'm not sure about the delivery date... I just have to try and keep my personal costs down so it is limited to no more than my donation totals -- I just can't justify (to myself) going in the hole financially to maintain freeware.

many thanks jdobbs. I have the EU (german) version of the disc but the international version have the same multiple playlists and multi-view/angle.

[Cedvano]

Hi,

When i try to encode FINAL DESTINATION 4 3D, BD Rebuilder want encode only 3D files.
But the 2D bonus are big and need to be reduced.

How BD Rebuilder can word with 2D and 3D files ?

[jdobbs]

Hi,

When i try to encode FINAL DESTINATION 4 3D, BD Rebuilder want encode only 3D files.
But the 2D bonus are big and need to be reduced.

How BD Rebuilder can word with 2D and 3D files ?Please post your INI file and log.

[scotlandman]

Hi jdobbs

I would first like to thank you for the fantastic software you have provided us all with it is truly phenomenal thanks.

The reason for my post today is to ask for your feedback on my recent attempt to make a Movie only 3D BD25 of Marvels the Avengers (Avengers Assemble).

The Source for my movie is USA Retail Blu-ray. I used AnyDVD HD 7.4.6.0 for decrypting the movie then set up BD Rebuilder v0.47.06 (beta) as follows.

http://t.imgbox.com/Q0zSfZj2.jpg (http://imgbox.com/Q0zSfZj2) http://t.imgbox.com/SaTz68Lj.jpg (http://imgbox.com/SaTz68Lj) http://t.imgbox.com/GMRLJge1.jpg (http://imgbox.com/GMRLJge1) http://t.imgbox.com/FWQRrm99.jpg (http://imgbox.com/FWQRrm99)

My INI File and Log along with BDInfo and Media Info for comparison are as follows.

LOG:
----------------------
[05/08/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.06 (beta)
[21:16:12] Source: MARVELS_THE_AVENGERS_3D_00800
- Input BD size: 40.19 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:22:54.899]
- Target BD size: 23.83 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:16:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:16:12] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 1)
- [21:16:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [21:18:50] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 205,592 frames
- Bitrate: 16,090 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [21:18:50] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:15:14] Video Encode complete
- [07:15:14] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[07:15:14]PHASE ONE complete
[07:15:14]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:15:15] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
[07:19:54] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[07:19:54] JOB: MARVELS_THE_AVENGERS_3D finished.
----------------------


INI
[Status]
LABEL=MARVELS_THE_AVENGERS_3D
VERSION=v0.47.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=43156592640
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=43156592640
TARGET_SIZE=25585254400
REDUCTION=.592846951876505
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
SSIF_MODE=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00800]
AUDIO=100
PGS=1011111111111000
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=25585254400
RATE=16090
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


BDInfo taken once Attempted conversion has finished.


DISC INFO:

Disc Title: MARVELS_THE_AVENGERS_3D
Disc Size: 24,302,338,296 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00001.MPLS
Length: 2:22:54.899 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 24,302,125,056 bytes
Total Bitrate: 22.67 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 8776 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 5217 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 5217 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 36.579 kbps
Presentation Graphics Russian 30.633 kbps
Presentation Graphics Ukrainian 31.781 kbps
Presentation Graphics Swedish 25.619 kbps
Presentation Graphics Norwegian 24.535 kbps
Presentation Graphics Danish 30.107 kbps
Presentation Graphics Finnish 26.513 kbps
Presentation Graphics Greek 32.475 kbps
Presentation Graphics Bulgarian 31.138 kbps
Presentation Graphics Latvian 26.197 kbps
Presentation Graphics Lithuanian 30.866 kbps
Presentation Graphics Estonian 30.008 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00000.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:22:54.899 24,302,125,056 22,673


First Media Info file shows how this attempt was done:

General
Complete name : F:\\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00001.mpls
Format : Blu-ray Playlist
File size : 714 Bytes
Duration : 2h 22mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 bps

Video #1
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 19.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
format_identifier : HDMV
Source : 00000.m2ts / 00000.m2ts

Video #2
ID : 4114 (0x1012)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Stereo High@L4.1
MultiView_Count : 2
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 32
Duration : 2h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 15.9 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
format_identifier : HDMV
Source : 00000.m2ts / 00000.m2ts

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA / Core
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 2h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : Unknown / 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 8 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy
Language : English
Source : 00000.m2ts / 00000.m2ts



Second Media Info shows the Proper file information for some reason BD Rebuilder does not include file 00872.m2ts in the encode.


General
Complete name : F:\\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00800.mpls
Format : Blu-ray Playlist
File size : 878 Bytes
Duration : 2h 22mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 bps

Video
ID : 4114 (0x1012) / 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Stereo High@L4.1 / High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 35.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
format_identifier : HDMV
Source : 00872.m2ts / 00800.m2ts

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA / Core
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 2h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : Unknown / 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 8 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy
Language : English
Source : 00800.m2ts

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 654 MiB (2%)
Language : Russian
bsid : 6
dialnorm : -31
dialnorm/String : -31 dB
compr : 3.52
compr/String : 3.52 dB
dynrng : 3.52
dynrng/String : 3.52 dB
acmod : 7
lfeon : 1
dialnorm_Average : -31
dialnorm_Average/String : -31 dB
dialnorm_Minimum : -31
dialnorm_Minimum/String : -31 dB
dialnorm_Maximum : -31
dialnorm_Maximum/String : -31 dB
dialnorm_Count : 560
compr_Average : 3.44
compr_Average/String : 3.44 dB
compr_Minimum : -0.28
compr_Minimum/String : -0.28 dB
compr_Maximum : 6.02
compr_Maximum/String : 6.02 dB
compr_Count : 560
dynrng_Average : 3.49
dynrng_Average/String : 3.49 dB
dynrng_Minimum : 0.00
dynrng_Minimum/String : 0.00 dB
dynrng_Maximum : 6.02
dynrng_Maximum/String : 6.02 dB
dynrng_Count : 560
format_identifier : AC-3
Source : 00800.m2ts

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 654 MiB (2%)
Language : Ukrainian
bsid : 6
dialnorm : -31
dialnorm/String : -31 dB
compr : 5.74
compr/String : 5.74 dB
dynrng : 5.60
dynrng/String : 5.60 dB
acmod : 7
lfeon : 1
dialnorm_Average : -31
dialnorm_Average/String : -31 dB
dialnorm_Minimum : -31
dialnorm_Minimum/String : -31 dB
dialnorm_Maximum : -31
dialnorm_Maximum/String : -31 dB
dialnorm_Count : 560
compr_Average : 3.68
compr_Average/String : 3.68 dB
compr_Minimum : -0.28
compr_Minimum/String : -0.28 dB
compr_Maximum : 6.02
compr_Maximum/String : 6.02 dB
compr_Count : 560
dynrng_Average : 3.74
dynrng_Average/String : 3.74 dB
dynrng_Minimum : 0.00
dynrng_Minimum/String : 0.00 dB
dynrng_Maximum : 6.02
dynrng_Maximum/String : 6.02 dB
dynrng_Count : 560
format_identifier : AC-3
Source : 00800.m2ts



Thank you for taking the time to help me I hope that I have not missed any simple steps in the process as I believe I have done everything correctly.

[Cedvano]

Here the INI file :
[Options]
VERSION=0.47.0.6
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ang;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=100
SUPPRESS_FF_WARNING=1
OUTPUT_3D_ISO=0
SHOW_ENCODER=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
AUTO_BURN=0
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
ENCODER=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=2
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=1
MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=1
DGDECIM=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=R:\
WORKING_PATH=G:\BLU-RAY\


[Status]
LABEL=FINAL_DESTINATION_4_3D
VERSION=v0.47.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=28254282843
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=23043440640
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.843220164061403
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;frm;fro;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ang;fra;fre;frm;fro;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
SSIF_MODE=-1
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00058]
AUDIO=
PGS=

----------------------
[05 13 14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.06 (beta)
[23:35:12] Source: FINAL_DESTINATION_4_3D
- Input BD size: 26,31 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:14:06.742]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[23:35:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:35:12] Processing: VID_00058 (1 of 3)
- [23:35:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00058]
[23:35:18]PHASE ONE aborted by user request


There is 25 bonus in 2D (3,5 GB) and I don't see in "Stream", I see only 3D files (0.05MB, 119.04 MB and 21 856.85MB)

Thanks

[jetli]

hi, i have a problem with version 47.04.
i was compressing main movie only of DELIVERY MAN.
RB completed as always, video ok, audio ok, 1 eng sub NOT ok.
playlist 100 is what it selected and it contains 4 min of 6.m2ts and 140 min of 7.m2ts.
after the 1st 4 minutes the subtitles do NOT track, the 1st 4 min is fine.
i've never really had a problem before using your tools.
what i did to solve this is use tsmuxer to extract the subs from playlist 100 in the same source used by RB
and mux out your result and mux in the extracted result.
that works, the subs are fine throughout the movie, but i have 3 extra minutes of NOTHING at the end of the video playtime,
which i then cut and i have a workable disk.
i am just curious as to why this would happen now.

below is my RB system inspection ...
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3882, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok

the above versions have always worked before, no issues.
please respond, thanks or your attention to this matter.