BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Shuttle99]

It shows x264 running on 4 cores and bouncing between 93 100% its been running now for about 6 hours and its a 35 gig file so it should be done at most in the next hour. No errors coming back in BD RB so I think it's fine and I will let it run another hour or so. I also refreshed the workfiles folder and the MKV file went from around 5 gig to 6 gig on the update.

It finished just fine.

Now testing on another with multiple files and it has stopped again at 22% on pass two of the third file. Seems to be random.

[steelfatboy]

Just running 29.01 and it's progress bar stopped at 50% but appears that it's still running according to the CPU. Is there anyway to tell the progress if it the progress bar stops.

I am experiencing the same thing encoding Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.

The movie is still encoding, it is just the progress bar that has stopped.

[steelfatboy]

Have you seen a message in the log that says "GUI issue, no hWnd returned"? If not, then it isn't that the progress bar isn't updating, it means it just happens to be going slow right now and if you give it some time it will update.



Oops, that message is not in the log, so it must just be going slow.

[bassnut]

I can confirm this as well ...... I have been stuck at 68.6% now for a bit but all 4 processors are lit. X264 is running and no message in the log.

http://209.91.177.82/Images/pic.jpg

[Shuttle99]

It's not slow it stops. I am running another movie now with multiple files and it randomly stops on them and starts again when it starts the next file in line.

[jdobbs]

It's not slow it stops. I am running another movie now with multiple files and it randomly stops on them and starts again when it starts the next file in line. All I can say is that if you don't get the message, BD-RB is getting the window handle. I guess there's always the possibility that X264 is frozen -- but I doubt it.

You didn't answer my question -- did you get the GUI error message?

[Shuttle99]

Sorry there was no error messages. The bar stopped 22% of pass 2 and started again at the end when the audio and video are being put together and it's writing the folder. BD Rb is working fine and not hanging nor is X264 it's only the progress bar that stops updating.

[bassnut]

Well it might be just slow as JD has stated. Movie (Hellboy 2)finished completely without any errors or messages. I did notice at the begining with quicker encode for extras that the gooy was not updating, it just seemed like it went from 0% to 2.5% ...... but then the files could just have been too small to require an update and BDRebuilder did it at the end though I have never seen this befor ver 29.01.

Windows Vista 64 Bit

[Shuttle99]

When it stops updating nothing updates speed, ETA,FPS, frames it all stops and never resumes. The first time it stopped was on a movie with a single file to process it only started again when it started to write the final folder. Then the next one it did it on had multiple files to process and when it sops on a file it only resumes when it starts the next file but then it will hang again. The program continues just fine so it's more cosmetic and has no affect in the end you just have no idea how its coming along.

Windows Vista x64 here.

[Sophocles]

Sorry there was no error messages. The bar stopped 22% of pass 2 and started again at the end when the audio and video are being put together and it's writing the folder.

I experienced what I thought was a reencode issue on the second pass that seemed to do something similar. It appeared as though nothing was going on, the meter simply wasn't moving. I avoided the temptation to restart BD RB, and I'm glad I did, because a short time later the reencode finished and everything played back perfectly. Since the entire process finished in 3 hours and 43 minutes with two pass (Eagle Eye) and that's about average for a standard 105 to 120 minute movies I can't say why that happened.BTW, it was on Windows 7 64 bit.

[MILLZY]

I wonder i somebody could please help me out.I am trying windows 7 on one of my pc`s and i am not comfortable editing the registry for the problems with vc-1.I have tried the tweaks but can not seem to get them to work.I am looking for the one-click batch file that turbojet came up with(thanks) but the link is dead.Any help please..........:confused:Thinking of going back to xp64

[jdobbs]

I experienced what I thought was a reencode issue on the second pass that seemed to do something similar. It appeared as though nothing was going on, the meter simply wasn't moving. I avoided the temptation to restart BD RB, and I'm glad I did, because a short time later the reencode finished and everything played back perfectly. Since the entire process finished in 3 hours and 43 minutes with two pass (Eagle Eye) and that's about average for a standard 105 to 120 minute movies I can't say why that happened.BTW, it was on Windows 7 64 bit. Was that also on v0.29.1? Did you get any kind of error message in the log?

[jdobbs]

Sorry there was no error messages. The bar stopped 22% of pass 2 and started again at the end when the audio and video are being put together and it's writing the folder. BD Rb is working fine and not hanging nor is X264 it's only the progress bar that stops updating. That's just really weird. I wonder if this is something related to the latest X264 updates? If you get to 22% it means it had to have had the window handle to show the status to that point... all that BD-RB does after that is check the window caption for updates a few times a second. The 22% was on the "Current Progress" bar, right (not "Overall Progress")?

[Groucho2004]

That's just really weird. I wonder if this is something related to the latest X264 updates? If you get to 22% it means it had to have had the window handle to show the status to that point... all that BD-RB does after that is check the window caption for updates a few times a second. The 22% was on the "Current Progress" bar, right (not "Overall Progress")?

Hi jdobbs,

I sent you a PM about this problem.

[Shuttle99]

I remember in one of the post there was a line you could add to bdrebuilder.ini that opened a dos window and you could see the progress there can you tell me the line to again and I can add it and run another and watch what happens beween BD rb and the dos open window.

Yes the 22% was on the current progress the overall was over 50% but nothing was updating.

[Capsbackup]

i remember in one of the post there was a line you could add to bdrebuilder.ini that opened a dos window and you could see the progress there can you tell me the line to again and i can add it and run another and watch what happens beween bd rb and the dos open window.

Yes the 22% was on the current progress the overall was over 50% but nothing was updating.

show_encoder=1

[Sophocles]

Was that also on v0.29.1? Did you get any kind of error message in the log?

Sorry should have posted that it was on the previous version. Was this an issue that was recently fixed?

[meatwad]

Just running 29.01 and it's progress bar stopped at 50% but appears that it's still running according to the CPU. Is there anyway to tell the progress if it the progress bar stops.


I found that if CoreAVC 1.9.5 is your default H264 decoder you'll experience symptoms like these. Check and see if CoreAVC is doing the decoding instead of FFDshow. I've experienced lock-ups of other running programs when this happens as well. It might possibly be due to having CUDA acceleration enabled, but I never did any further troubleshooting once I found out what was causing it on my system.

[writersblock29]

Windows XP X64 here. I can confirm that the progress bars aren't reporting back in real time; it's sporatic at best. Some streams, both bars read fine... then it'll hit a spot where both bars appear to freeze. Task manager still reports the CPU's being taxed. Framerate and frames encoded information also freezes.

I did Bee Movie last night, and when I noticed the behavior, I left it alone all night. The result was a completed project when I checked it this morning: And both bars showed 100% completion. I'm working on Braveheart, Disk One now, and six hours into it, it's showing an overall progress of .18% with no activity on the current progress bar. I'm betting that leaving it alone will result in completion, but point being, the progress bars aren't reporting accurately here, either.

To my recollection, earlier versions worked fine--but I won't swear to that, since I usually start projects in the evening, and ignore the computer until I wake up the following day. That, and I've been using Windows 7 RC right up until two days ago, when I re-installed XP X64. So I really hate to report anything on any platform that's A) Not yet supported, B) Itself, still in beta, and C) different than the environment I'm using now and noticing strange behavior on.

[Edit] A half an hour from posting this, I checked BDRB again out of curriousity. 54% overall, 13% current, with framerate info and encoded frames info going strong. So it jumped from .18% to 54% in a half an hour.

Also, this is using FFdshow as the decoder.

[meatwad]

Windows XP X64 here. I can confirm that the progress bars aren't reporting back in real time; it's sporatic at best. Some streams, both bars read fine... then it'll hit a spot where both bars appear to freeze. Task manager still reports the CPU's being taxed. Framerate and frames encoded information also freezes.

I did Bee Movie last night, and when I noticed the behavior, I left it alone all night. The result was a completed project when I checked it this morning: And both bars showed 100% completion. I'm working on Braveheart, Disk One now, and six hours into it, it's showing an overall progress of .18% with no activity on the current progress bar. I'm betting that leaving it alone will result in completion, but point being, the progress bars aren't reporting accurately here, either.

To my recollection, earlier versions worked fine--but I won't swear to that, since I usually start projects in the evening, and ignore the computer until I wake up the following day. That, and I've been using Windows 7 RC right up until two days ago, when I re-installed XP X64. So I really hate to report anything on any platform that's A) Not yet supported, B) Itself, still in beta, and C) different than the environment I'm using now and noticing strange behavior on.

[Edit] A half an hour from posting this, I checked BDRB again out of curriousity. 54% overall, 13% current, with framerate info and encoded frames info going strong. So it jumped from .18% to 54% in a half an hour.

Also, this is using FFdshow as the decoder.

So it's not CoreAVC? I've done two movies with 0.29.01 and haven't experienced this yet (using Windows 7 X86). Anyway, I'm sure J. Dobbs will get to the bottom of this for those that are experiencing this issue.

[writersblock29]

@Meatwad

At least in my case, no, it's not CoreAVC. I do own it, but haven't used or even installed it on this system. The projects do complete if left alone--and to keep checking back on a project that's "frozen," you'll sometimes see that it's frozen at a different spot than it was before. The disk I'm running now, Braveheart Disk One, went from locked up to running fine (it's chewing on the main feature now)... but I doubt the process of doing the work was interupted at all when the progress bars weren't operational. Bee Movie, last night, didn't seem to take any longer than a normal project. My daughter's watching it right now on our HTPC, and it's working fine.

[jdobbs]

@Meatwad

At least in my case, no, it's not CoreAVC. I do own it, but haven't used or even installed it on this system. The projects do complete if left alone--and to keep checking back on a project that's "frozen," you'll sometimes see that it's frozen at a different spot than it was before. The disk I'm running now, Braveheart Disk One, went from locked up to running fine (it's chewing on the main feature now)... but I doubt the process of doing the work was interupted at all when the progress bars weren't operational. Bee Movie, last night, didn't seem to take any longer than a normal project. My daughter's watching it right now on our HTPC, and it's working fine.Just brainstorming... have you changed the default priority?

[writersblock29]

Just brainstorming... have you changed the default priority?

No. When I was using Windows 7, I had to in order to get BDRB to work on it, but I've reinstalled Windows XP X64 two days ago. When installing FFdshow, I pretty much left everything to defaults other than enabling Mpeg2 and using the MT codec for H264.

[jdobbs]

Sorry should have posted that it was on the previous version. Was this an issue that was recently fixed? Yes. In v0.29.1 I rewrote the routine that collects the window's handle so it uses EnumWindows()...

This is a new issue completely. Now it never fails to collect the handle (or there would be an error report in the log) -- but for some reason it's not getting updates from the X264 window's caption at some point during the encode.

It's working 100% for me on Windows Vista.

[Capsbackup]

Yes. In v0.29.1 I rewrote the routine that collects the window's handle so it uses EnumWindows()...

This is a new issue completely. Now it never fails to collect the handle (or there would be an error report in the log) -- but for some reason it's not getting updates from the X264 window's caption at some point during the encode.

It's working 100% for me on Windows Vista.

Just to confirm, its working fine for me too, with XP Pro 32bit.
Both BD-RB's and x264's display are advancing/progressing congruently together, both on screen or when minimized.

[prospeed]

Same reported issue regarding progress bar updating..
x264.exe running fine. About 2.25hrs into job.

Pass 1/2 - Speed:0.0x - ETA: 00:00:00 - FPS:0.00
Frames: 000000 / 000000

[PurpleMan]

jdobbs,

I have reported this issue before, but never got a reply.

When doing titles that have seamless branching (disney titles, for instance), or in my case - Gladiator (original disc this time), in which the main movie is split across like 50 different m2ts's, the BD25 backup (complete backup) often shows a slight pause during playback in parts where there's a file-change.

For example, in Gladiator theatrical cut, PowerDVD7 completely hangs at the scene-change (and file-change) at around 1 hour 34 minutes, while PowerDVD9 shows a slight pause (less than 1 second) then resume playing.

This *might* be a powerdvd issue, but then again - it might not be.

You have any idea why this would/should happen?

[PurpleMan]

Also, another question.

I noticed that secondary audio (dd+) is usually mapped to track 6656 on original m2ts's (I suppose this signifies that it's a secondary audio stream), but on the bd25 backup, they are mapped to 435x (like primary audio tracks).

Is this on purpose?

[DK]

Concerning the "freezing issue" when jumping a chapter forward or backward I had problems with "Swing Vote" and 28.04 but I do NOT have this problem with 29.01 - at least not after re-doing Swing Vote.

Attached you may find log, inf, index.bdmv and movieobject.bdmv of both conversions in case it may be useful.

Thanx for all the effort!

[BZeeme]

BD Rebuilder v0.29.01 (beta)

This is the 1st version that properly did a movie-only backup of CJ7!
With other versions the backup would play until I jumped to a different chapter - then the video would turn to garbage (audio and subtitles were fine).

[jdobbs]

Also, another question.

I noticed that secondary audio (dd+) is usually mapped to track 6656 on original m2ts's (I suppose this signifies that it's a secondary audio stream), but on the bd25 backup, they are mapped to 435x (like primary audio tracks).

Is this on purpose?Not on purpose -- but the only way TSMUXER will do it. It plays back correctly...

[jdobbs]

jdobbs,

I have reported this issue before, but never got a reply.

When doing titles that have seamless branching (disney titles, for instance), or in my case - Gladiator (original disc this time), in which the main movie is split across like 50 different m2ts's, the BD25 backup (complete backup) often shows a slight pause during playback in parts where there's a file-change.

For example, in Gladiator theatrical cut, PowerDVD7 completely hangs at the scene-change (and file-change) at around 1 hour 34 minutes, while PowerDVD9 shows a slight pause (less than 1 second) then resume playing.

This *might* be a powerdvd issue, but then again - it might not be.

You have any idea why this would/should happen?Definitely a PowerDVD issue IMHO... it doesn't seem to be buffering enough to account for the delay associated with switching to a new file.

[drmih]

Not on purpose -- but the only way TSMUXER will do it. It plays back correctly...

Has there been any further developments on the other types of Secondary Audio (PiP) as that seems to be on the majority of discs?

[PurpleMan]

Definitely a PowerDVD issue IMHO... it doesn't seem to be buffering enough to account for the delay associated with switching to a new file.

Well, considering I'm playing it from a mounted ISO file, I'd reckon it doesn't take my HD a complete second to read another file.

Mentioning again that on PowerDVD7 it hangs altogether (doesn't resume playing even after many seconds).

[jdobbs]

Well, considering I'm playing it from a mounted ISO file, I'd reckon it doesn't take my HD a complete second to read another file.

Mentioning again that on PowerDVD7 it hangs altogether (doesn't resume playing even after many seconds). C'mon. I'm not going to argue about it... no other reports and PowerDVD only? Seems straightforward to me. Threre's really nothing I can do about bugs in PowerDVD.

[jdobbs]

Has there been any further developments on the other types of Secondary Audio (PiP) as that seems to be on the majority of discs? Not yet. The only way I can think of to support it is to demux and remux myself... and thats no small task.

[PurpleMan]

C'mon. I'm not going to argue about it... no other reports and PowerDVD only? Seems straightforward to me. Threre's really nothing I can do about bugs in PowerDVD.

I'm not arguing, I'm contemplating the idea. We're on the same side here :).

I just figured that if this was a PowerDVD issue, it would have been apparent on the original disc too, wouldn't it?

Since it's not, it should indicate that something is different on the backup up disc. Unless my logic is wrong here.

[Capsbackup]

I use PowerDVD 7.3, and my full movie backup to BD-25 has an ever so slight hesitation with Gladiator at 1:34:04, no freezing, and continues playing. However, when I play it back on my Sony BX1, it is hardly noticeable, but reminds me of a slight pause that is sometimes associated with a layer change when watching a DVD DL movie.
To me, this is extremely hard to detect, and if you blink, you would miss it. The original does seem to avoid this at this same location. This is not a concern to me though.

[jdobbs]

I've just updated the link on the first post of this thread with a new version of BD-RB (v0.29.02). The changes for this release are:- Made changes to the code for collecting the hWnd
of X264 and updating progress. It appears that
X264 can have more than one top level hWnd that
is associated with its process id, causing BD-RB
to sometimes look for status in the wrong place.
- Corrected an issue in which stopping an encode in
ABR mode, and then resuming in 2 pass could cause
BD-RB to fail (no .STATS file).
- Updated the Movie-Only playlist selection dialog
so it accurately displays chapters (rather than
marks). Also corrected the chapter output to the
.META file in the same way. This should prevent
meta files with too many chapters.
- Updated X264 version to the latest release (r1151)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[daberti]

I've just updated the link on the first post of this thread with a new version of BD-RB (v0.29.02). The changes for this release are:- Made changes to the code for collecting the hWnd
of X264 and updating progress. It appears that
X264 can have more than one top level hWnd that
is associated with its process id, causing BD-RB
to sometimes look for status in the wrong place.
- Corrected an issue in which stopping an encode in
ABR mode, and then resuming in 2 pass could cause
BD-RB to fail (no .STATS file).
- Updated the Movie-Only playlist selection dialog
so it accurately displays chapters (rather than
marks). Also corrected the chapter output to the
.META file in the same way. This should prevent
meta files with too many chapters.
- Updated X264 version to the latest release (r1151)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Just asking, but when will it be fixed the subtitles' error when encoding in 720p?

TIA

[jdobbs]

Just asking, but when will it be fixed the subtitles' error when encoding in 720p?

TIACan you give me a title for which it fails? The ones I've tested work fine.

[worknstiff]

:thanks: JDobbs for President! No Wait JDobbs for Master of the Universe! Besides the frozen status on RBLD 29.01, it still turned out an excellent copy of Watchmen in a high quality (slow) Movie Only BD9 encode that has fixed the FF/Chapter seek problem. It also picked out the correct playlist and not the longer Director's commentary movie, and produced a copy that is identical (on my 50in plazma using my 50+ eyes ) with the original. What more can I say! I think he has produced the holy grail of BD movie backup, the crown for the BD_DVDShrink if you will. I think there is lots of stuff going on with the Full Disk & PNP and java stuff that will be a pain but thats not what I am after. I have had Watchmen lying around with dust accumulating on it and the 3 duds I had previously burned for weeks and can finally put it away.
Thanks-Again JDobbs and soon as Paypal gets my deposit look for another donation for the great program.

[Sharc]

Can you give me a title for which it fails? The ones I've tested work fine.
Some titles work fine, some do not. One I had which did not work was PERFUME: The Story of a Murderer, Region B.
(I could give you more titles if it helps, all are Region B, however).

[PurpleMan]

Just finished doing Batman Begins again (full backup BD25).

Unfortunately, result has major PiP issues.
The problem is two-fold:

1. When you turn on the "in-movie experience" (pip), the secondary video appears even when it's not supposed to (which means I see a black frame in the pip, because there's no video there).

2. Even in parts that it IS supposed to be showing, it seems slight unsynced with when the video frame jumps from one side of the screen to another. I mean, PiP is in lower-right corner and we have this guy talking there. then the frame moves to the lower-left corner and you see the guy there for half a second, then it switches to another scene, as if that half of second was intended for BEFORE the frame moved from one side to the other. (I confirmed this on the original disc, in which it is indeed in sync with the frame-move).

I don't have a standalone player, but both these issues presented themselves in PowerDVD7, PowerDVD9 and TotalMedia Theatre 3. All of which play the original disc correctly with no problem.

[daberti]

Can you give me a title for which it fails? The ones I've tested work fine.

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1305325&postcount=3936

Title is Black Hawk Down (Region B)

[GaPony]

Maybe you Region B guys should send jdobbs your problematic movies... Consider it a sacrifice to science. :)

[stackner]

i have used bdrebuilder a few times now making bd25's all have worked well. however i have tried the original stargate movie to bd25 but it is compressing to 6gbs total. the movie stream is compressing to 2.5gb. im choosing bd25 so why is the final product coming out at 6gb? ive tried many different settings even. have not had this happen with any other movie and ive used all bd versions from 0.25.03 0.29.02

i tried both the latest versions 0.29.01 and 0.29.02 on the disc with same problem.

[setarip_old]

@stackner

Hi!

1) What region is your original, commercial BluRay disc?

2) What software and procedures did you use to eliminate/overcome the copy protection of the original disc?

[allright]

Using BD-Rebuilder v0.29.2

Now I'm getting a lot of these while encoding:
- [07:57:18] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- [07:57:18] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.

2-3 every second.

Movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132620/
Region: B.
Used DVDFAB 6.06 to rip.

[Groucho2004]

Using BD-Rebuilder v0.29.2

Now I'm getting a lot of these while encoding:
- [07:57:18] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- [07:57:18] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.

2-3 every second.

Movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132620/
Region: B.
Used DVDFAB 6.06 to rip.

Are you using "SHOW_ENCODER=1" in your ini file?

[drmih]

Using BD-Rebuilder v0.29.2

Now I'm getting a lot of these while encoding:
- [07:57:18] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- [07:57:18] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.

2-3 every second.

Movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132620/
Region: B.
Used DVDFAB 6.06 to rip.

I had this on a title but was doing about 3 other things at the same time (primarily copying files around). When I restarted the process without the other things it went through perfectly.

[tekmobile]

I had this on a title but was doing about 3 other things at the same time (primarily copying files around). When I restarted the process without the other things it went through perfectly.

The only time I get this too is when copying files around

[writersblock29]

Using BD-Rebuilder v0.29.2

"GUI issue, no hWnd returned." I'm getting these, too. My computer was left alone, however, from the time I started it to this morning, when I checked it. Task manager tells me that the CPU's still laboring under X264, so I'm assuming the encode is going through as planned. I'm leaving it alone to see if it finishes.

Braveheart, Disk One, Region A.
Windows XP X64, all supporting programs (AVISynth, FFdshow, ect) most current version.

[jdobbs]

Maybe you Region B guys should send jdobbs your problematic movies... Consider it a sacrifice to science. :) I was able to repeat the demuxing issue on Black Hawk Down with the Region A disc. It a TSMUXER issue, though, and I'm not sure I can do anything about it.

[jdobbs]

Using BD-Rebuilder v0.29.2

"GUI issue, no hWnd returned." I'm getting these, too. My computer was left alone, however, from the time I started it to this morning, when I checked it. Task manager tells me that the CPU's still laboring under X264, so I'm assuming the encode is going through as planned. I'm leaving it alone to see if it finishes.

Braveheart, Disk One, Region A.
Windows XP X64, all supporting programs (AVISynth, FFdshow, ect) most current version.Sigh... this thing is driving me nuts. I thought I had it this time.

[Capsbackup]

Using BD-Rebuilder v0.29.2

"GUI issue, no hWnd returned." I'm getting these, too. My computer was left alone, however, from the time I started it to this morning, when I checked it. Task manager tells me that the CPU's still laboring under X264, so I'm assuming the encode is going through as planned. I'm leaving it alone to see if it finishes.

Braveheart, Disk One, Region A.
Windows XP X64, all supporting programs (AVISynth, FFdshow, ect) most current version.

Same movie, same experience here too. Only "GUI issue, no hWnd returned" for the main .m2ts though (00006.m2ts), as the smaller ones work as normally expected. Movie completes successfully and plays perfectly fine too.

[jdobbs]

What do all of you have in common? I can run this thing forever and not get that error. But in testing, I found that there are more than one window associated with the X264 process id -- so I thought "maybe they're getting the wrong window randomly"... obviously that wasn't it.

There has to be some common thread or reason why this is happening only on certain systems.

Are you all using:

Windows XP 64?
Some 64 bit O/S (as opposed to 32 bit)?
What version of FFDSHOW? (don't say "latest")
What version of HAALI?
Are you using the version of X264 included with BD-RB?

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread to include links to a newer release of BD-RB (v0.29.03). Changes:September 8th, 2009 - v0.29.03
- Made another adjustment to attempt to prevent the
dreaded "GUI Issue, no hWnd returned" error.

September 7th, 2009 - v0.29.02
- Made changes to the code for collecting the hWnd
of X264 and updating progress. It appears that
X264 can have more than one top level hWnd that
is associated with its process id, causing BD-RB
to sometimes look for status in the wrong place.
- Corrected an issue in which stopping an encode in
ABR mode, and then resuming in 2 pass could cause
BD-RB to fail (no .STATS file).
- Updated the Movie-Only playlist selection dialog
so it accurately displays chapters (rather than
marks). Also corrected the chapter output to the
.META file in the same way. This should prevent
meta files with too many chapters.
- Updated X264 version to the latest release (r1151)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

I've increased the timeout period to 60 seconds (from 10) before BD-RB decides the the GUI issue exists.... hoping that on a very busy system, the issue is caused by delays in actual start of the encode process.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
XP Pro SP3, 32 bit
ffdshow - (rev 3026) (2009-07-05)
Haali Matroska Muxer - (2009-01-10)
x264 is what is included with BD-RB v2902.

This was the first time I experienced this issue. Movie Braveheart, Region A. Only happened on the main .m2ts, 00006.m2ts, which is 42.8 GB. All the smaller files worked properly.

[Aratar]

Today I used BD REBUILDER v0.29.02 to rip german blu-ray of 'The Reader'. I used KEEP_INTERLACING=1 because there are a lot of SD-quality (MPEG-2) interlaced filmed material on the disc, my hardware equipment does a better deinterlacing job than avisynth/decomb.dll does so I would prefer to keep interlaced material 'as is'. However, I noticed when using KEEP_INTERLACING=1, the field order (tff/bff) of the reencoded material is wrong, which results in strange motion jerkyness because the wrong two half pictures are assumed to be a full frame. Not sure if that's always the case when using KEEP_INTERLACING.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
XP Pro SP3, 32 bit
ffdshow - (rev 3026) (2009-07-05)
Haali Matroska Muxer - (2009-01-10)
x264 is what is included with BD-RB v2902.

This was the first time I experienced this issue. Movie Braveheart, Region A. Only happened on the main .m2ts, 00006.m2ts, which is 42.8 GB. All the smaller files worked properly. Since I can't make it happen even when I try, pretty much all the "fixes" have been stabs in the dark. I say "maybe if their system is doing X it might cause Y... so I'll see if I can prevent Y"... The way I'm doing it now should work. I call the O/S using EnumWindows() and pass it a callback routine. The callback should get called for every top-level window. I retrieve and compare the process id (PID) of the window to the process id of X264 (from when I created the process). Since there are more than one window associated with it -- I look for the caption showing that it is processing ("x264 [") -- if that matches I know I have the right window.

The last version kept looking for 10 seconds (which in computer time is a long time), I just changed it to look for 60 seconds in v0.29.03.

If this doesn't work it implies that the X264 you see running in the task manager doesn't have a window associated with it or that the caption isn't being updated with the status information... and that's just inconceivable (especially since it always works on my computer).

[Groucho2004]

I call the O/S using EnumWindows() and pass it a callback routine. The callback should get called for every top-level window. I retrieve and compare the process id (PID) of the window to the process id of X264 (from when I created the process). Since there are more than one window associated with it -- I look for the caption showing that it is processing ("x264 [") -- if that matches I know I have the right window.

The last version kept looking for 10 seconds (which in computer time is a long time), I just changed it to look for 60 seconds in v0.29.03.

If this doesn't work it implies that the X264 you see running in the task manager doesn't have a window associated with it or that the caption isn't being updated with the status information... and that's just inconceivable (especially since it always works on my computer).

I sniffed a bit around with Spy++ while x264 was running. x264 creates it's main window (which has the window class "ConsoleWindowClass") and sometimes a tooltip window (same caption but with the class name "tooltips_class32"). The tooltip window only gets created when the main window is not hidden and the mouse hovers over the taskbar icon.

Basically, all this seems to be normal behaviour and I can't see anything wrong the way you coded the window capture.

I'm curious about the percentage of users who experience this problem and as you mentioned, maybe there is something common among those.

[allright]

Are you all using:

Windows XP 64?
Some 64 bit O/S (as opposed to 32 bit)?
What version of FFDSHOW? (don't say "latest")
What version of HAALI?
Are you using the version of X264 included with BD-RB?

I'm using:

Vista Ultimate 64 bit
FFDSHOW v 2661
HAALI 1.9.42.1
Using the X264 included with BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

I sniffed a bit around with Spy++ while x264 was running. x264 creates it's main window (which has the window class "ConsoleWindowClass") and sometimes a tooltip window (same caption but with the class name "tooltips_class32"). The tooltip window only gets created when the main window is not hidden and the mouse hovers over the taskbar icon.

Basically, all this seems to be normal behaviour and I can't see anything wrong the way you coded the window capture.

I'm curious about the percentage of users who experience this problem and as you mentioned, maybe there is something common among those. When I scan for the PID there are two other windows that have the same process ID. One of them has a caption that says "ActiveMovie Window" --the other says "xTrayIconWnd". I'm guessing these are associated with AVISYNTH's frame serving to X264 and FFDSHOW.

[Edit] Maybe I'll look for the "ConsoleWindowClass" as opposed to the caption. That way at least I'd have the correct window and wouldn't have to worry about timeouts...

[samtroy]

jdobbs, may I ask for your personal recommendations for BD Rebuilder regarding the used decoders for H.264 and VC-1?

Would you prefer WMP9 or libavcodec for VC-1?

And what about H.264 sources? Is libavcodec always safe to use there too, also qualitywise?

I'm sure a lot of people are unsure about this.

[jdobbs]

I personally use libavcodec for AVC and MPEG-2 and WMV11 for VC-1 (install Windows Media Player 11 and then set VC-1 to "disabled" in FFDSHOW). If using Windows 7 (which I am not) there are a couple of other hoops to jump through for VC-1 -- do a seach of this thread for details.

[PurpleMan]

Just finished doing Batman Begins again (full backup BD25).

Unfortunately, result has major PiP issues.
The problem is two-fold:

1. When you turn on the "in-movie experience" (pip), the secondary video appears even when it's not supposed to (which means I see a black frame in the pip, because there's no video there).

2. Even in parts that it IS supposed to be showing, it seems slight unsynced with when the video frame jumps from one side of the screen to another. I mean, PiP is in lower-right corner and we have this guy talking there. then the frame moves to the lower-left corner and you see the guy there for half a second, then it switches to another scene, as if that half of second was intended for BEFORE the frame moved from one side to the other. (I confirmed this on the original disc, in which it is indeed in sync with the frame-move).

I don't have a standalone player, but both these issues presented themselves in PowerDVD7, PowerDVD9 and TotalMedia Theatre 3. All of which play the original disc correctly with no problem.

Just finished backing it up yet again and the problem recreated itself.
Don't know why I thought it would magically work now. Also, don't know why I've set it to 2-pass now. Oh well.

[Furiousflea]

Today I used BD REBUILDER v0.29.02 to rip german blu-ray of 'The Reader'. I used KEEP_INTERLACING=1 because there are a lot of SD-quality (MPEG-2) interlaced filmed material on the disc, my hardware equipment does a better deinterlacing job than avisynth/decomb.dll does so I would prefer to keep interlaced material 'as is'. However, I noticed when using KEEP_INTERLACING=1, the field order (tff/bff) of the reencoded material is wrong, which results in strange motion jerkyness because the wrong two half pictures are assumed to be a full frame. Not sure if that's always the case when using KEEP_INTERLACING.

Seems to be...not sure what the problem is there jdobbs? surely just an incorrect switch being used?

[tekmobile]

I've increased the timeout period to 60 seconds (from 10) before BD-RB decides the the GUI issue exists.... hoping that on a very busy system, the issue is caused by delays in actual start of the encode process.

The only time I see this issue is when im copying files when the encode starts I have SHOW_ENCODER on and the error always happens before the x264 windows actually appears

[Groucho2004]

When I scan for the PID there are two other windows that have the same process ID. One of them has a caption that says "ActiveMovie Window" --the other says "xTrayIconWnd". I'm guessing these are associated with AVISYNTH's frame serving to X264 and FFDSHOW.

[Edit] Maybe I'll look for the "ConsoleWindowClass" as opposed to the caption. That way at least I'd have the correct window and wouldn't have to worry about timeouts...

Here is a screen shot from Spy++ while x264 is running:
http://www.iol.ie/~schubert/Image1.png

I think the "ActiveMovie Window" is the Mediasplitter tray icon and the "ffdshow_tray_737" is the ffdshow tray icon. No idea what "xTrayIconWnd" is.

All this info still doesn't explain why the code fails in some situations...

The best way to debug this would be for the people who have problems to run Spy++ and post a screen shot or log. Spy++ comes with the full version of Visual Studio but I think it's also a freely available sample that anyone could compile and distribute. I'll check if I can make this available somehow.

[Groucho2004]

The only time I see this issue is when im copying files when the encode starts I have SHOW_ENCODER on and the error always happens before the x264 windows actually appears

@jdobbs:
Could it be that you are checking for the existance of the x264 window before it is actually created?

[Capsbackup]

Since I can't make it happen even when I try, pretty much all the "fixes" have been stabs in the dark. I say "maybe if their system is doing X it might cause Y... so I'll see if I can prevent Y"... The way I'm doing it now should work. I call the O/S using EnumWindows() and pass it a callback routine. The callback should get called for every top-level window. I retrieve and compare the process id (PID) of the window to the process id of X264 (from when I created the process). Since there are more than one window associated with it -- I look for the caption showing that it is processing ("x264 [") -- if that matches I know I have the right window.

The last version kept looking for 10 seconds (which in computer time is a long time), I just changed it to look for 60 seconds in v0.29.03.

If this doesn't work it implies that the X264 you see running in the task manager doesn't have a window associated with it or that the caption isn't being updated with the status information... and that's just inconceivable (especially since it always works on my computer).

This appears to have fixed the problem for me. I am 92% complete into pass 2 of Braveheart and no more "GUI issue, no hWnd returned" :)
For me, this "GUI issue, no hWnd returned" happened only one time and with v0.29.02, on Braveheart, and on the 2nd pass of a full movie backup to BD-25.
So the changes to BD-RBV02903 has corrected the issue for me.( with ETA 0:32:00 to go) :p

EDIT:
Completed Successfully!! I hope for all this corrects this annoyance. :D

[Race Guy]

Today I used BD REBUILDER v0.29.02 to rip german blu-ray of 'The Reader'. I used KEEP_INTERLACING=1 because there are a lot of SD-quality (MPEG-2) interlaced filmed material on the disc, my hardware equipment does a better deinterlacing job than avisynth/decomb.dll does so I would prefer to keep interlaced material 'as is'. However, I noticed when using KEEP_INTERLACING=1, the field order (tff/bff) of the reencoded material is wrong, which results in strange motion jerkyness because the wrong two half pictures are assumed to be a full frame. Not sure if that's always the case when using KEEP_INTERLACING.

I'll BET this is the issue on my Abbey Road rebuild:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1321265#post1321265

Come to think of it, I NEVER see "jerkiness" on 1080p/24, but depending on the content's "on screen motion", MANY of the 1080i sources I rebuilt can look jerky at times. The Abbey Road was absolutely HORRIBLE though!

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs:
Could it be that you are checking for the existance of the x264 window before it is actually created? Not really, because in the latest version I continue to check for it for a full 60 seconds...

[jdobbs]

I'll BET this is the issue on my Abbey Road rebuild:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1321265#post1321265

Come to think of it, I NEVER see "jerkiness" on 1080p/24, but depending on the content's "on screen motion", MANY of the 1080i sources I rebuilt can look jerky at times. The Abbey Road was absolutely HORRIBLE though! It sounds more like a field order issue than the link you posted. I'm not really sure how to adjust field order in X264, I'll have to go back and review the documentation. I'd suggest in the meantime that you leave BD-RB at the default setting and let it do deinterlacing.

[stackner]

i have used bdrebuilder a few times now making bd25's all have worked well. however i have tried the original stargate movie to bd25 but it is compressing to 6gbs total. the movie stream is compressing to 2.5gb. im choosing bd25 so why is the final product coming out at 6gb? ive tried many different settings even. have not had this happen with any other movie and ive used all bd versions from 0.25.03 0.29.02

i tried both the latest versions 0.29.01 and 0.29.02 on the disc with same problem


@stackner

Hi!

1) What region is your original, commercial BluRay disc?

2) What software and procedures did you use to eliminate/overcome the copy protection of the original disc?

it is commercial dvd (stargate) australian pal movie,
i used anydvd hd as always to rip.

same steps as all other movies that have worked. even re-ripped the disc twice. still full disc backup to bd25 is turning out 6gb.

[stax76]

I wonder why you work with handles and don't use the CreateProcess with CREATE_NO_WINDOW flag redirecting the console output. With VB.NET it's like 5 lines code to create a console process without window and redirect it's output.

I also wonder why you never migrated to .NET, every second year a new VB.NET and .NET Framework version adds tons of cool new features making programming easier.

[cybercurves]

I also got this when running 29.02 -

- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[04:38:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:38:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [04:51:02] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [04:51:13] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- [04:51:13] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- [04:51:13] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- [04:51:13] GUI issue, no hWnd returned......

I reverted back to 29.01 and it was fine.

I'm currently using 29.03 now and it appears to be back to normal.

cybercurves

[Capsbackup]

i have used bdrebuilder a few times now making bd25's all have worked well. however i have tried the original stargate movie to bd25 but it is compressing to 6gbs total. the movie stream is compressing to 2.5gb. im choosing bd25 so why is the final product coming out at 6gb? ive tried many different settings even. have not had this happen with any other movie and ive used all bd versions from 0.25.03 0.29.02

i tried both the latest versions 0.29.01 and 0.29.02 on the disc with same problem




it is commercial dvd (stargate) australian pal movie,
i used anydvd hd as always to rip.

same steps as all other movies that have worked. even re-ripped the disc twice. still full disc backup to bd25 is turning out 6gb.

It would be helpful if you could provide more info.. what OS are you using, BD-RB log and ini file, what settings.. 1 pass crf, hi speed, etc.

[setarip_old]

@stacknerit is commercial dvd (stargate) australian pal movieIf this is not a typo, you should be aware that BD Rebuilder only processes BluRay discs - and not DVDs, or anything else...

Perhaps you should try "DVD Rebuilder"...

[jdobbs]

I wonder why you work with handles and don't use the CreateProcess with CREATE_NO_WINDOW flag redirecting the console output. With VB.NET it's like 5 lines code to create a console process without window and redirect it's output.

I also wonder why you never migrated to .NET, every second year a new VB.NET and .NET Framework version adds tons of cool new features making programming easier. So now I'm getting programming lessons in my bug thread too? C'mon, give me a little credit. I work with handles because that's how Windows works, and I like having the kind of control that is lost when you bury it in layer after layer of virtualization. I started out life writing in machine code (note that I didn't say assembler) and I just don't like getting too far away from the real computer.

I don't use .NET because I don't want to use .NET. It may cause a couple of headaches and I have to actually write code to fix it, but in the long run its worth it to me.

[jdobbs]

@stacknerIf this is not a typo, you should be aware that BD Rebuilder only processes BluRay discs - and not DVDs, or anything else...

Perhaps you should try "DVD Rebuilder"... He's been using DVD Rebuilder for a long time (years).

I think it was a typo.

[stackner]

lol actually i was half asleep when doing that post. no im using bdrebuilder and its the stargate blu-ray not dvd sorry guys. however i have used dvd rebuilder for ages now. but ive done a few blu-ray backups first time i have this issue. ill try again and post the log file afterwards.

[writersblock29]

@Jdobbs

Is it conceivable that perhaps something in the Windows Updates might be what's throwing BDRB for a loop? I always keep my system as current as the OS allows, but I'm aware of several people (my wife included) who stick to the "why improve what ain't broke?" philosophy, and keep automatic updates turned off. This might explain why some of us report what others (using what on a forum appears to be similiar systems) don't have any issue whatsoever with. I'm more than happy to supply whatever information you feel might help. In all honesty, I don't recall a single hicup on Windows 7 X64 while I used it (after, of course, tweaking the directshow setting to allow FFdshow to run as it should). The only reason I've reinstalled XP X64 is that my Windows 7 Upgrade disk will be showing up in another month, and I needed something to upgrade FROM to install it.

If it means anything to you... the Braveheart disk works. It fails to show the menu buttons on PowerDVD9 (which is installed on the same system that's running Windows XP X64), but on Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre (which is on my HTPC), it's fine. Leaving it alone resulted in a very good BD9 copy--better than I expected with such a long movie.

[PurpleMan]

@Jdobbs

Is it conceivable that perhaps something in the Windows Updates might be what's throwing BDRB for a loop? I always keep my system as current as the OS allows, but I'm aware of several people (my wife included) who stick to the "why improve what ain't broke?" philosophy, and keep automatic updates turned off. This might explain why some of us report what others (using what on a forum appears to be similiar systems) don't have any issue whatsoever with. I'm more than happy to supply whatever information you feel might help. In all honesty, I don't recall a single hicup on Windows 7 X64 while I used it (after, of course, tweaking the directshow setting to allow FFdshow to run as it should). The only reason I've reinstalled XP X64 is that my Windows 7 Upgrade disk will be showing up in another month, and I needed something to upgrade FROM to install it.

If it means anything to you... the Braveheart disk works. It fails to show the menu buttons on PowerDVD9 (which is installed on the same system that's running Windows XP X64), but on Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre (which is on my HTPC), it's fine. Leaving it alone resulted in a very good BD9 copy--better than I expected with such a long movie.

Using Windows 7 x64, never experienced the issue as well.

[samtroy]

I personally use libavcodec for AVC and MPEG-2 and WMV11 for VC-1 (install Windows Media Player 11 and then set VC-1 to "disabled" in FFDSHOW). If using Windows 7 (which I am not) there are a couple of other hoops to jump through for VC-1 -- do a seach of this thread for details.

OK, thanks for sharing.

To all Windows 7 users (like me):

Could you guys please be so kind and tell me what decoders you use for BD Rebuilder in Win7 for H.264 and VC-1 and what your experiences are so far?

I've tried Win7's own (Microsoft) H.264 decoder so far with very good results. And for VC-1 movies I'm not sure yet if I should use WMP9 or libavcodec (of course I deleted the 'prefered' folder in the registry, otherwise VC-1 won't work).

I'm not even sure which VC-1 decoder is used when I select WMP9 in ffdshow. Is the most up-to-date MS decoder (WMP12?) used or is it really the 'old' WMP9 decoder like it says?

[spida_singh]

OK, thanks for sharing.

To all Windows 7 users (like me):

Could you guys please be so kind and tell me what decoders you use for BD Rebuilder in Win7 for H.264 and VC-1 and what your experiences are so far?

I've tried Win7's own (Microsoft) H.264 decoder so far with very good results. And for VC-1 movies I'm not sure yet if I should use WMP9 or libavcodec (of course I deleted the 'prefered' folder in the registry, otherwise VC-1 won't work).

I'm not even sure which VC-1 decoder is used when I select WMP9 in ffdshow. Is the most up-to-date MS decoder (WMP12?) used or is it really the 'old' WMP9 decoder like it says?

I always leave VC-1 in ffdshow set to wmv9, h.264 set to ffmpeg-mt, and never had any problems so far.

I use windows 7 x64.

regards

[PurpleMan]

I use libavcodec in ffdshow for VC1 (wmv9 simply doesn't work for me under windows 7 x64, never had a reason to find out why, as libavcodec works great).

and for h264 I use CoreAVC.

[wijko]

Hi,

I've been using BD Rebuilder for a few months now, but with the dutch retail of Pinocchio I came across an error that I haven't seen in the forum.

I hope someone can help. My OS is win7, all drives are NTFS. I used all quality settings and the new version (and two previous ones as well). The error message is as follows:

-----------------------
[17:10:27] BD Rebuilder v0.29.01 (beta)
- Source: PINOCCHIO_GBR_D1
- Input BD size: 31,82 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:52:11.558]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[17:10:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:10:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [17:27:21] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 18)
- [17:27:21] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [17:33:36] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 126.216 frames
- Bitrate: 16.246 Kbs
- [17:33:36] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:05:52] Video Encode complete
- [22:05:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:05:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[22:06:58] - Failed to build structure, aborted

Thanks for any insights on this issue.

[PurpleMan]

Hi,

I've been using BD Rebuilder for a few months now, but with the dutch retail of Pinocchio I came across an error that I haven't seen in the forum.

I hope someone can help. My OS is win7, all drives are NTFS. I used all quality settings and the new version (and two previous ones as well). The error message is as follows:

-----------------------
[17:10:27] BD Rebuilder v0.29.01 (beta)
- Source: PINOCCHIO_GBR_D1
- Input BD size: 31,82 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:52:11.558]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[17:10:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:10:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [17:27:21] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 18)
- [17:27:21] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [17:33:36] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 126.216 frames
- Bitrate: 16.246 Kbs
- [17:33:36] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:05:52] Video Encode complete
- [22:05:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:05:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[22:06:58] - Failed to build structure, aborted

Thanks for any insights on this issue.

That error is being returned from tsMuxer. Could you paste that metafile?

[h8t3d1]

Hello - I saw some of the posts about the dreaded
'GUI issue, no hWnd returned' I recieved it in version 0.29.03 and in 0.29.02. Been using the program since the begining and never saw this error before. I did see where you made a fix for this in the latest version so I wanted to share this log.
-----------------------
[01:13:37] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: FAST_AND_FURIOUS
- Input BD size: 43.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:05:13.498]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[01:13:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:13:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00238]
- [01:13:49] Reencoding: VID_00238 (1 of 35)
- [01:13:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00236]
- [01:13:57] Reencoding: VID_00236 (2 of 35)
- [01:14:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00237]
- [01:14:05] Reencoding: VID_00237 (3 of 35)
- [01:14:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [01:14:13] Reencoding: VID_00078 (4 of 35)
- [01:14:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
- [01:14:59] Reencoding: VID_00061 (5 of 35)
- [01:15:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [01:15:47] Reencoding: VID_00050 (6 of 35)
- [01:16:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [01:16:44] Reencoding: VID_00062 (7 of 35)
- [01:17:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00064]
- [01:17:44] Reencoding: VID_00064 (8 of 35)
- [01:18:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00212]
- [01:19:00] Reencoding: VID_00212 (9 of 35)
- [01:19:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00214]
- [01:20:02] Reencoding: VID_00214 (10 of 35)
- [01:21:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00225]
- [01:21:45] Reencoding: VID_00225 (11 of 35)
- [01:22:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00202]
- [01:23:02] Reencoding: VID_00202 (12 of 35)
- [01:24:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00215]
- [01:24:42] Reencoding: VID_00215 (13 of 35)
- [01:26:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00228]
- [01:27:17] Reencoding: VID_00228 (14 of 35)
- [01:29:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00216]
- [01:29:11] Reencoding: VID_00216 (15 of 35)
- [01:31:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00221]
- [01:31:51] Reencoding: VID_00221 (16 of 35)
- [01:33:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00217]
- [01:34:12] Reencoding: VID_00217 (17 of 35)
- [01:36:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00224]
- [01:36:47] Reencoding: VID_00224 (18 of 35)
- [01:38:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00223]
- [01:39:15] Reencoding: VID_00223 (19 of 35)
- [01:41:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00220]
- [01:41:40] Reencoding: VID_00220 (20 of 35)
- [01:43:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00226]
- [01:44:05] Reencoding: VID_00226 (21 of 35)
- [01:46:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00211]
- [01:46:48] Reencoding: VID_00211 (22 of 35)
- [01:49:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00219]
- [01:49:25] Reencoding: VID_00219 (23 of 35)
- [01:52:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00207]
- [01:52:42] Reencoding: VID_00207 (24 of 35)
- [01:55:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [01:56:07] Reencoding: VID_00011 (25 of 35)
- [02:00:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [02:00:41] Reencoding: VID_00205 (26 of 35)
- [02:04:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00204]
- [02:05:26] Reencoding: VID_00204 (27 of 35)
- [02:10:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00227]
- [02:11:56] Reencoding: VID_00227 (28 of 35)
- [02:17:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00222]
- [02:18:58] Reencoding: VID_00222 (29 of 35)
- [02:25:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00218]
- [02:26:52] Reencoding: VID_00218 (30 of 35)
- [02:27:57] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[02:30:53] - Failed video encode, aborted
Using Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit
Encoder settings = Idle/Highest/No One Pass
Setup = Color Boost Checked
Going to try it with the 0.29.01 version and see if it does it.

[wijko]

That error is being returned from tsMuxer. Could you paste that metafile?

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.MKV", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\VID_00001_2.AVS.MKV", fps=23.976, track=1, secondary, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4352.DTS", lang=eng
A_DTS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4353.DTS", lang=ita
A_DTS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4354.DTS", lang=spa
A_DTS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4355.DTS", lang=nld
A_AC3, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4356.AC3", lang=eng
A_AC3, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4357.AC3", lang=ita
A_AC3, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4358.AC3", lang=spa
A_AC3, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4359.AC3", lang=nld
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4608.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4609.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4610.sup", fps=23.976, lang=ita
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4611.sup", fps=23.976, lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4612.sup", fps=23.976, lang=nld
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4613.sup", fps=23.976, lang=ita
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4614.sup", fps=23.976, lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4615.sup", fps=23.976, lang=nld
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4616.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4617.sup", fps=23.976, lang=ita
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4618.sup", fps=23.976, lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4619.sup", fps=23.976, lang=nld
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4620.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4621.sup", fps=23.976, lang=ita
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4622.sup", fps=23.976, lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD25 REENCODES\FULL REENCODE\PINOCCHIO\WORKFILES\00001.track_4623.sup", fps=23.976, lang=nld

[Pntgrd]

OK, thanks for sharing.

To all Windows 7 users (like me):

Could you guys please be so kind and tell me what decoders you use for BD Rebuilder in Win7 for H.264 and VC-1 and what your experiences are so far?

I've tried Win7's own (Microsoft) H.264 decoder so far with very good results. And for VC-1 movies I'm not sure yet if I should use WMP9 or libavcodec (of course I deleted the 'prefered' folder in the registry, otherwise VC-1 won't work).

I'm not even sure which VC-1 decoder is used when I select WMP9 in ffdshow. Is the most up-to-date MS decoder (WMP12?) used or is it really the 'old' WMP9 decoder like it says?
I am not sure but I am guessing WMP that comes with Win7 x64. I used one of the Tweakers mentioned here and if you look in FFDSHOW it says VC-1 is set to disabled. But all the VC-1 titles I do work just fine.

[Race Guy]

It sounds more like a field order issue than the link you posted. I'm not really sure how to adjust field order in X264, I'll have to go back and review the documentation. I'd suggest in the meantime that you leave BD-RB at the default setting and let it do deinterlacing.

That's the problem jdobbs, I get the "jerkies" on certain 1080i scenes using the default settings.

[Aratar]

That's the problem jdobbs, I get the "jerkies" on certain 1080i scenes using the default settings.

Could be a playback issue too, e.g. for some reason my Samsung BR player uses 1080p/24 mode for extras that BD rebuilder deinterlaced (1080i->1080p) without keep_interlacing=1. However, the framerate is tagged 29.97 in clipinfo/playlist so it shouldn't actually use 1080p/24. Of course the playback then is jerky. My PS3 is using 1080p(60) mode instead, which looks fine. This is not a field order issue (at least I never had problem with the avisynth/decomb.dll deinterlacing itself) or a bug with bd rebuilder but another reason why I'd like to keep interlacing.

[Imperial Zeppelin]

Here's an error message I got today from McAfee when I tried to start v2.8.04...

McAfee has automatically blocked and removed a Trojan.

About this Trojan
Detected: Artemis!2EA64543AD3E (Trojan), Artemis!2EA64543AD3E (Trojan)
Location: C:\BD_Rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder.exe

Trojans appear as legitimate programs but can damage valuable files, disrupt performance, and allow unauthorized access to your computer.

[setarip_old]

@Imperial Zeppelin

Hi!

This has been addressed several times.

Also, there is no reason for you to be using an outdated version of BD Rebuilder.

[jdobbs]

Here's an error message I got today from McAfee when I tried to start v2.8.04...

McAfee has automatically blocked and removed a Trojan.

About this Trojan
Detected: Artemis!2EA64543AD3E (Trojan), Artemis!2EA64543AD3E (Trojan)
Location: C:\BD_Rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder.exe

Trojans appear as legitimate programs but can damage valuable files, disrupt performance, and allow unauthorized access to your computer. Search for "Artemis" in this thread essentially the answer is "McAfee's Artemis engine creates false positives". There is nothing wrong with BD-RB's downloads.

[Race Guy]

Could be a playback issue too, e.g. for some reason my Samsung BR player uses 1080p/24 mode for extras that BD rebuilder deinterlaced (1080i->1080p) without keep_interlacing=1. However, the framerate is tagged 29.97 in clipinfo/playlist so it shouldn't actually use 1080p/24. Of course the playback then is jerky. My PS3 is using 1080p(60) mode instead, which looks fine. This is not a field order issue (at least I never had problem with the avisynth/decomb.dll deinterlacing itself) or a bug with bd rebuilder but another reason why I'd like to keep interlacing.

Aratar, logic tells me that if the original disc plays "smooth" in my Oppo, but the rebuild looks "jerky", the player is NOT the issue.

x264 is somehow "corrupting" interlaced content. To me, this is a HUGE issue! What's the point if you get "right sized" vid that you CAN'T WATCH 'cause it looks like DUMP?

Are there any "beta testers" out there with this "Live From Abbey Road" disc that can process it default to BD-25 & see what they get??

[Furiousflea]

Aratar, logic tells me that if the original disc plays "smooth" in my Oppo, but the rebuild looks "jerky", the player is NOT the issue.

x264 is somehow "corrupting" interlaced content. To me, this is a HUGE issue! What's the point if you get "right sized" vid that you CAN'T WATCH 'cause it looks like DUMP?

Are there any "beta testers" out there with this "Live From Abbey Road" disc that can process it default to BD-25 & see what they get??

You are correct. Although it's not the fault of x264 but the switches that are being used for encoding.

The problem seems to be that BDRB is not deinterlacing to 60fps and then performing interlaced encoding as it should.

It's missing out the deinterlacing part so we just get some crappy zig zag video.

This is basic stuff! :eek:

[Dark Shikari]

The problem seems to be that BDRB is not deinterlacing to 60fps and then performing interlaced encoding as it should.You know that 60fps 1080p won't play on said Oppo player to begin with, right? :rolleyes:

[Race Guy]

You know that 60fps 1080p won't play on said Oppo player to begin with, right? :rolleyes:

The Oppo will play EVERYTHING. That's their "shtick". It's a "universal" player. Feel free to read the "spec sheet": http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/

The "original" video in question is MPEG-4 AVC 1920x1080i 29.97fps. When I hit the Oppo "on screen info" it says "AVC BDMV 29.97 Hz 16:9". That's 1080 "i" NOT "p". When I hit the "on screen info" on my Samsung screen, it says "1920x1080@60Hz" because the Oppo is outputting 1080p which is the native rez of my screen.

The Oppo plays the original PERFECTLY!

The same, "rebuilt" video shows the EXACT same specs as above, but it's UNWATCHABLE 'cause it's stuttering so bad! This particular vid (Abbey Road) just happens to be the "poster child" for seeing the "phenomenon", 'cause of the way it's shot. As I go thru other 1080i discs I've rebuilt, the jerkiness is in ALL of them. The only diff is, most of the other "productions" don't have the excessive panning the Abbey does.

On every 1080p/24 "rebuild" I've done, the Oppo plays them PERFECTLY! On a 24p flick, my TV screen info will say "1920x1080@24Hz" 'cause the Oppo has automatically adjusted it's output.

I have yet to see a "1080p/60" disc. Do you know of one, Dark Shikari? I'll go buy it & report back to you on how the Oppo plays it! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Race Guy]

You know that 60fps 1080p won't play on said Oppo player to begin with, right? :rolleyes:

Hey Mr. Dark Shikari........, I JUST noticed something!

Your "handle" says "x264 Developer".

Instead of worrying about what you think my player does or doesn't play......., why don't you tell jdobbs what "switches he needs to throw" to get a CLEAN 1080i rebuild?

It would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!! :) :) :)

See ya!

[Dark Shikari]

The Oppo will play EVERYTHING. That's their "shtick". It's a "universal" player.I'm good friends with the guy who runs the company that builds the Oppo player, and I'm pretty sure (not 100% though) that H.264 Level 4.2 is out of spec ;)

1080p60 is not 1080p24 or 1080p30.

[jdobbs]

I'm good friends with the guy who runs the company that builds the Oppo player, and I'm pretty sure (not 100% though) that H.264 Level 4.2 is out of spec ;)

1080p60 is not 1080p24 or 1080p30. It's just hard to get any respect around here isn't it... :) Forget the fact that you're one of the primary developers of the best X264 encoder on the planet --- oh yeah, and that you're doing it for free...

[jdobbs]

You are correct. Although it's not the fault of x264 but the switches that are being used for encoding.

The problem seems to be that BDRB is not deinterlacing to 60fps and then performing interlaced encoding as it should.

It's missing out the deinterlacing part so we just get some crappy zig zag video.

This is basic stuff! :eek: If its so basic, maybe you can tell me how to fix it?

I remember when I was asked to add the option to keep interlacing -- and I hesitated for exactly this reason... and it's also the reason it isn't the default and it is a hidden option.

I'd especially like to hear how deinterlacing somehow identifies whether the source is TFF or BFF so it can be reconstructed properly (which is the source of the problem we're discussing) -- especially since 90% of the sources are stored as frames rather than fields in the source even when interlaced.

I know I can scan the source, look at flags and determine field order (assuming it isn't a hybrid source and there isn't any pulldown)... but it's anything but basic. Oh... I forgot to mention... there isn't any guarantee that the field order won't change in the next scene -- so I'd have to scan THE ENTIRE SOURCE. At least that was my experience on the MPEG-2 side (and a major cause of my DVD Rebuilder headaches) where I had to scan and record the flags for every single frame so I could restructure it after encoding.

I just love the concept of adding another complete scan of 40 Gigabytes and recording of flags of the source followed by another complete scan/flag setting of the output to what is already too-long a process.

Everybody's a critic.

[Race Guy]

It's just hard to get any respect around here isn't it... :) Forget the fact that you're one of the primary developers of the best X264 encoder on the planet --- oh yeah, and that you're doing it for free...

It's got NOTHING to do with respect, jdobbs! He made a "wise ass" crack about my player that's prolly "state of the ART", instead of contributing a possible solution.

YOUR efforts are GREATLY appreciated!

I'm just pointing out a MAJOR bug in BD-RB.

This bug is SO BAD, if it's not fixed, you'll have to rename your product to "1080p/24-Rebuilder" 'cause there's NO WAY you could say it'll work on ALL Blu Rays.

Hopefully "Mr Dark" can help you out with 1080i fix! :) :) :)

Have a nice day!

[Dark Shikari]

It's got NOTHING to do with respect, jdobbs! He made a "wise ass" crack about my player that's prolly "state of the ART", instead of contributing a possible solution.Erm, telling you that a 1080p60 video won't play on a chip designed for Level 4.1 playback is "a wise ass crack"? :confused:

[Race Guy]

Erm, telling you that a 1080p60 video won't play on a chip designed for Level 4.1 playback is "a wise ass crack"? :confused:

WHERE in my "bug report" does the ability to play or not play "1080p/60" have any relevance?

The issue I'm reporting is the POOR quality of "MPEG-4 AVC 1920x1080i 29.97fps" rebuilds. Nothing more. I don't know how to make it any clearer!

[drmih]

This so called MAJOR bug effects how many discs?? All of us happy people who have done loads of discs which play perfectly have a different opinion to you of this great software. As your player spec pages says "* Compatibility with user-encoded contents or user-created discs is on a best-effort basis with no guarantee due to the variation of media, software and techniques used." - it's a pity the same consideration isn't extended to jdobbs and Dark Shikari!

[Dark Shikari]

WHERE in my "bug report" does the ability to play or not play "1080p/60" have any relevance?The problem seems to be that BDRB is not deinterlacing to 60fps:rolleyes:

[jdobbs]

It's got NOTHING to do with respect, jdobbs! He made a "wise ass" crack about my player that's prolly "state of the ART", instead of contributing a possible solution.

YOUR efforts are GREATLY appreciated!

I'm just pointing out a MAJOR bug in BD-RB.

This bug is SO BAD, if it's not fixed, you'll have to rename your product to "1080p/24-Rebuilder" 'cause there's NO WAY you could say it'll work on ALL Blu Rays.

Hopefully "Mr Dark" can help you out with 1080i fix! :) :) :)

Have a nice day! If we're going to talk about "wise ass" -- I'd ask that you please re-read this post and look at it from my perspective. When did terms like "beta" and freeware lose their meaning? Things get fixed -- but they get fixed when they are discovered and reported -- I've had all of a couple of days to look at this one (while, by the way, I'm busting my ass with a real job).

Saying "rename your product to 1080p/24-Rebuilder" isn't "wise-ass"? (Smiley faces don't always cover an insult)

Honestly, I don't know why I do this. Whip me! Beat me! Make me write bad checks! (because I'm obviously a glutton for punishment)

[drmih]

@jdobbs

Did you ever discover what was the issue with Universal discs and bd-9 on the Sony? We know that the same image plays fine on a bd-25 so it's a Sony firmware issue but it was more a case of curiosity. I have tried various discs (which tend to have PiP) by including and excluding the seconday video, and with secondary audio which can and can't be processed. However, all fail to play the main audio on bd-9. Rather than PiP, is it the menu system or U-Control which could be confusing the Sony's?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Did you ever discover what was the issue with Universal discs and bd-9 on the Sony? We know that the same image plays fine on a bd-25 so it's a Sony firmware issue but it was more a case of curiosity. I have tried various discs (which tend to have PiP) by including and excluding the seconday video, and with secondary audio which can and can't be processed. However, all fail to play the main audio on bd-9. Rather than PiP, is it the menu system or U-Control which could be confusing the Sony's?

Since the exact same image works when written to BD-25 -- it has to be related to how the Sony works with the BD-9, and not the structure of the BD-9 itself. One option would be for me to remove the secondary video and also remove any references to it in the MPLS... but that still wouldn't be a successful backup since the PiP would be missing.

But more clearly -- "No" I don't know why it is doing it. I wish I did. It's on the list of "do some investigation" items I'm keeping (its a fairly extensive list).

[Race Guy]

:rolleyes:

Mr Dark......, you misquoted me with:

"Originally Posted by Race Guy
The problem seems to be that BDRB is not deinterlacing to 60fps"

That's the "Flea's" line, NOT mine.

Personally, it's "above my pay grade" to suggest a cause/solution!

I'm just a "reporter" writing down what I see.

[Race Guy]

If we're going to talk about "wise ass" -- I'd ask that you please re-read this post and look at it from my perspective. When did terms like "beta" and freeware lose their meaning? Things get fixed -- but they get fixed when they are discovered and reported -- I've had all of a couple of days to look at this one (while, by the way, I'm busting my ass with a real job).

Saying "rename your product to 1080p/24-Rebuilder" isn't "wise-ass"? (Smiley faces don't always cover an insult)

Honestly, I don't know why I do this. Whip me! Beat me! Make me write bad checks! (because I'm obviously a glutton for punishment)

Yes......, I admit........, it was kinda "wise ass"!

Isn't the goal to get this released so you can get SHOWERED with CURRENCY of ALL TYPES??? I'm just trying to get a "real" bug kicked up to the top of the list to help you REACH that goal!

Sounds like I made a LITTLE progress, ain't it?

Keep up the good work!

[Race Guy]

This so called MAJOR bug effects how many discs?? All of us happy people who have done loads of discs which play perfectly have a different opinion to you of this great software. As your player spec pages says "* Compatibility with user-encoded contents or user-created discs is on a best-effort basis with no guarantee due to the variation of media, software and techniques used." - it's a pity the same consideration isn't extended to jdobbs and Dark Shikari!

This "bug" affects virtually ALL "live concert" discs.

IMO, that's THE big attraction of Blu......., HD Music. Flix are OK, but REALLY, how many times are you gonna watch the same flick? A rockin' good concert can be watched OVER & OVER & OVER AGAIN!

It also probably affects ANY disc shot live. Most film (1080p/24 stuff) is "scanned", correct?

See ya!

[drmih]

So probably about 1% or 2%. I've only done AC-DC Live at Donnington and that was fine to bd-9.

[chudm]

was on vacation, ill keep an eye on the newer betas :D thx jdobbs!

[Race Guy]

So probably about 1% or 2%. I've only done AC-DC Live at Donnington and that was fine to bd-9.

Is that 1 or 2% an "educated guess" or just a "plain ol' guess"?

Don't forget TV series Blu's that's all 1080i stuff too. LOTS of people buy that stuff. Does that bump us up to 3%?

That AC/DC was shot in 1992, pre HD cameras, so it may be film, meaning 1080p/24. I'll find out for sure.

[nurbs]

Don't forget TV series Blu's that's all 1080i stuff too.
I have a couple of TV series on blu-ray and they are all 1080p/24

Edit:
I did a little research on http://www.blu-raystats.com. The list 1791 blu-ray releases. 150 of those (~8%) are 1080i. 8 of those are TV series. The 1080i titles are mostly concerts and other live events and documentaries. There are also some TV series, movies, "screen savers" (fireplace,...) and porn (they have switched from MPEG2 to AVC recently). Only 15% are releases from major studios. I have no idea how accurate or complete the list is.

[jdobbs]

I have a couple of TV series on blu-ray and they are all 1080p/24

Edit:
I did a little research on http://www.blu-raystats.com. The list 1791 blu-ray releases. 150 of those (~8%) are 1080i. 8 of those are TV series. The 1080i titles are mostly concerts and other live events and documentaries. There are also some TV series, movies, "screen savers" (fireplace,...) and porn (they have switched from MPEG2 to AVC recently). Only 15% are releases from major studios. I have no idea how accurate or complete the list is. Ok... now take those 1080i numbers and reduce again based on the number that are encoded BFF (which will probably be tiny) and that is the number that would have an issue. I think 2% was a very conservative estimate.

In most cases it is best to just let BD-RB deinterlace them (and here I'm referring to real deinterlacing, not field separation which was called "deinterlacing" in a previous post) and you will have a very high quality 1080p encode. We're talking about 1080 here -- this isn't anything like people's experience with 480i. The blending is virtually impossible to detect.

Sometimes I'm just amazed at the insignificant things we choose to argue about here (I'm reminded of the discussions on level 4.1 and slicing) while we completely ignore the big picture. I'm seriously considering pulling the hidden interlacing option out so I don't have to deal with it any more. It's like saying "give me a pen so I can poke myself in the eye" -- and then complaining because you can't see as well anymore. I should have just said no when first asked to implement it.

[Dark Shikari]

Why not just leave the BDs as they are and not deinterlace them?

[jdobbs]

Right now if you set the option to encode as interlaced so it stays the same as the original, sometimes the output has the field order reversed. That was the root of the earlier bug report. I've never actually experienced it myself, but then I don't do a lot of concerts (where it has been reported to be seen).

[laneyhardcore]

First off please excuse my english :) Great job on the software ive noticed couple of bugs.

1) I did a 1080p BD9 full movie rip and it worked fine menus etc. Only problem was film was a bit long and wasn't giving me adequate quality, so I did a 720p one and it seemingly loads up fine with Powerdvd the menu background appears but none of the clickable text options do. In an attempt to fix this I used my original 1080p rip... I left the menu at 1080p and for all the other files I replaced with the 720p m2ts files, I loaded this up in Powerdvd and now the menus worked as did the film and extras but for some reason the subtitles refuse to work I know very little about BD disk structure but ive been trying to figure it out to no avail... any suggestions they work fine on the 1080p rip and the original 720p (when going directly to the movie title) before I chopped up the streams folder. Any chance of possibly adding a "leave menu at 1080p" button in a future release?

2) Another film I did as 1080p gets to the menu screen but none of the options are there Its a simple menu on original BD25 It has pictures etc for the chapter points but they do not show up i have to manually select the title (nothing to really moan about I know) but a bug none the the less is this something to Do with Java or PIP I keep hearing about?

I would give you names of these discs but they are obscure Japanese titles. Anyway thanks again... oh and to the man with the Oppo does it play full movie BD9/5 I have my eye on that player the DVD upscaling is great! :thanks:

[writersblock29]

@Jdobbs

V. 0.29.03 hasn't been throwing the "GUI Issue, no hWnd returned" message in the last two disks I've run through it. I'm not sure what changes you made, but at least here it appears to have worked.

[jdobbs]

@Jdobbs

V. 0.29.03 hasn't been throwing the "GUI Issue, no hWnd returned" message in the last two disks I've run through it. I'm not sure what changes you made, but at least here it appears to have worked. I'm just waiting longer before giving up on getting the info from the caption. Apparently some systems have a significant delay before the encode actually starts... I changed it from 10 seconds to 60 seconds. In the next version I've made it even better by looking for the window class instead of the caption when determining which window of the associated process id to use.

[laneyhardcore]

First off please excuse my english :) Great job on the software ive noticed couple of bugs.

1) I did a 1080p BD9 full movie rip and it worked fine menus etc. Only problem was film was a bit long and wasn't giving me adequate quality, so I did a 720p one and it seemingly loads up fine with Powerdvd the menu background appears but none of the clickable text options do. In an attempt to fix this I used my original 1080p rip... I left the menu at 1080p and for all the other files I replaced with the 720p m2ts files, I loaded this up in Powerdvd and now the menus worked as did the film and extras but for some reason the subtitles refuse to work I know very little about BD disk structure but ive been trying to figure it out to no avail... any suggestions they work fine on the 1080p rip and the original 720p (when going directly to the movie title) before I chopped up the streams folder. Any chance of possibly adding a "leave menu at 1080p" button in a future release?



Woo i managed to get the subs working I copied the relevant clpi and mlps files from the 720p rip I don't know if its necessary to copy both but but it worked so im happy :devil:

[GaPony]

Honestly, I don't know why I do this. Whip me! Beat me! Make me write bad checks! (because I'm obviously a glutton for punishment)

I honestly don't know why you bother, either... but I'm very glad that you do. Some people don't get it... if there's a particular movie/disc that doesn't work right, it can easily be put aside until the needed fix or feature comes along. Unfortunately, some people don't know the difference between beta tesing and wine tasting and your patience is, frankly amazing. I apologize for their lack of understanding of exactly what's going on with your program.

Apparently, some people are in a hurry to get their stuff copied, so they can avoid those killer late fees at Blockbuster. :eek:

Perhaps, some of the self procalimed experts around here will be releasing their own software and we can all take advantage of the "perfect" program.... and you can not only take a break, but sling a few arrows of your own. :)

@ Whomever... For the record, there is no such thing as a "State of the Art" Blu-Ray player. The closest thing to following any sort of standard is the Sony line, and everyone else is just playing catchup. A bunch of features referencing upconverting DVDs to 1080p aren't state of the art or earth shattering breakthroughs and have little to do with a players functionality with Blu-Ray (especially BD9/BD5) playback.

[vsj023]

i get thiserror when i start with this new version, i never had any problems before

[22:14:02] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: SUNSHINE_US
- Input BD size: 36.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:45:18.805]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[22:14:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:14:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: E:\VIDEOS\BLU-RAY\SUNSHINE_US\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: E:\VIDEOS\BLU-RAY\SUNSHINE_US\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
[22:14:06] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

and here is my settings:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\VIDEOS\BLU-RAY\SUNSHINE_US\
WORKING_PATH=C:\WORKING\

any ideas why this is happening. Thanks in advanced.

[Furiousflea]

Right now if you set the option to encode as interlaced so it stays the same as the original, sometimes the output has the field order reversed. That was the root of the earlier bug report. I've never actually experienced it myself, but then I don't do a lot of concerts (where it has been reported to be seen).

That's the problem, it happens on movies too. I'm not talking about those 1080i concerts. I'm talking about extras on discs like "The Matrix". I reported this a couple of months ago. For all intents and purposes the "keep interlacing" option is completely broken.

I'm sure on the version you first introduced it, it worked properly on "The Matrix". Then from then on I always used that switch (why not?). When I actually went back to check the extras on my BDP-S550 I found all the extras on my discs looked like they weren't being deinterlaced into 60fps video but just had zig-zagging everywhere as if the flag hadn't been set for the player to deinterlace them.

This is not the player causing the problem as I have made backups of my single layer discs and they do not have the problem.

[Aratar]

Right now if you set the option to encode as interlaced so it stays the same as the original, sometimes the output has the field order reversed.

A compromise could be adding BFF/TFF option to keep interlacing command.

[laserfan]

A compromise could be adding BFF/TFF option to keep interlacing command.Sure, but I think jdobbs' issue is that there isn't any programmatic way to identify BFF vs. TFF, to set this automagically.

Whenever I've seen a question here on doom9 about de-interlacing, the answer always seems to be "you have to use your eyes".

[jdobbs]

A compromise could be adding BFF/TFF option to keep interlacing command.

BFF and TFF aren't options on the standard build of X264, they're only available through patching. I want to stick with the standard build.

[PurpleMan]

jdobbs:

I noticed that if I open 00000.m2ts (main movie) on the original batman begins disc using tsmuxergui all the audio tracks are flagged with timeshift=125ms. On the backup I made using BD-RB the 00000.m2ts does not have that flag. Is that on purpose?

I mean, is BD-RB compensating for the timeshift?

[jdobbs]

That's the problem, it happens on movies too. I'm not talking about those 1080i concerts. I'm talking about extras on discs like "The Matrix". I reported this a couple of months ago. For all intents and purposes the "keep interlacing" option is completely broken.

I'm sure on the version you first introduced it, it worked properly on "The Matrix". Then from then on I always used that switch (why not?). When I actually went back to check the extras on my BDP-S550 I found all the extras on my discs looked like they weren't being deinterlaced into 60fields per second (not fps, which is frames per second) video but just had zig-zagging everywhere as if the flag hadn't been set for the player to deinterlace them.

This is not the player causing the problem as I have made backups of my single layer discs and they do not have the problem. I'll go back and check to see if something new has broken the function. But from what I'm hearing in the other posts, this isn't the issue we're discussing. The other reports say they see "jittering" or "vibrations" that is normally indicative of an incorrect field order. What you're reporting is jagged edges, correct?

Your statement "deinterlaced into 60fps video" is confusing... because that doesn't typically happen. It is still 29.97fps video, but it has two fields of odd and even lines that are drawn in an alternating manner, first one and then the other separated by time. The original reason for interlacing was because the persistence of phosper on the face of a cathode ray tube couldn't hold it's brightness very well and would show a perceptable "flash" at 30fps. Interlacing at 60 fields per second (fps implies frames rather than fields) made it go away (to the human eye). I think there are TVs (I don't pay a lot of attention to this) that support 1080p60 -- but since there is no current 1080p60 input (that I know of) its just simulated and sales hype anyway.

The reason field order is important is because in field-based encodings the recording time of the two fields is actually 1/60th of a second apart, even though they appear to make up a single picture on the screen.

If you somehow invert the display order and there is movement (for example) from left to right on the screen, it appears to go back-and-forth -- because the first displayed field is being displayed 1/60th of a second too early, and the second displayed field is being displayed 1/60th of a second too late. It can also look like "blurring" on slow movements.

Deinterlacing is when you actually convert the field based video into a single picture removing the differences, there are lots of ways to do it but typically it averages the two fields so they appear to be one picture. That's what BD-RB does by default when the KEEP_INTERLACING flag isn't set. It also eliminates the possibility of field order errors.

What I think you are describing is a situation in which the fields have not been averaged (deinterlaced) -- but are somehow flagged as progressive (which is bad, because Blu-Ray only allows 1080p on 24fps video). In that case both fields are displayed simultaneously as if the source is frame-based when it is not. Since there is no 1/60th second alternating display time difference between the two fields, you can see the delta in movement as jagged edges.

Of course everything I'm talking about here is related to NTSC/ATSC and would have to be adjusted for other standards.

The reason this is becoming more-and-more a dead argument is because LCD TVs that are capable of 1080p typically deinterlace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080i) the 1080i signal before displaying it anyway (just like BD-RB does by default) -- and cathode ray tubes (picture tubes) are really becoming very rare while 1080p capability is becoming the norm. So the question is "What do you accomplish by keeping the original interlacing?" -- and the answer is "In most cases, nothing." On the plus side, when you do the deinterlacing during the encoding, you have more time and can (probably) do it better.

There was a lot of work done recently that could have affected the KEEP_INTERLACING setting, so I'll go back and see if I've screwed something up. I'll also go back and make sure I'm not somehow causing sources that are 1080i to be flagged as 1080p30.

[edit] Wow. I'm really verbose today. That must have been an especially good cup of coffee.

[Furiousflea]

Thanks for the lengthy explanation of the terms and information :) I wasn't really looking back to see if my issue was the same as other peoples. I am aware of there being 2 issues here (mine and the other peoples).

I have personally experienced that "jitter" after running a concert dvd through BDRB when keeping video interlaced to retain that smooth motion of video = you then get the crazy jittering.

However my issue isn't related to that, I am solely talking about extras such as "making of" documentaries that are typically 480\60i. That is to say as I'm sure you are aware that 60 frames per second are generated from the interlaced stream.

This is the effect of creating a live action smooth movement as you would see on modern soap operas\news\sport programs.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying you are incorrect about anything, you obviously have a far greater understanding of the workings of this stuff than me. But I can categorically say that the only way to retain that "live action look" is to keep the source interlaced as it is on the original. When you de-interlace you are halving the frame rate to 29.97fps which can cause some juddering on this "making of" type films. Having the knock on effect of in say "The Matrix" making of documentary making the behind the scense material looking like film material.

Just to give one final example, if you download say an episode of your favourite soap that is shot on video from a torrent site (just for arguments sake) these groups always release their video in progressive format so when you watch it the video has a "film" look to it.

You know like the difference between "live action\film"...

I would like to retain that live action look if at all possible. Sorry for my ramblings and likely repeating myself :)

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs:

I noticed that if I open 00000.m2ts (main movie) on the original batman begins disc using tsmuxergui all the audio tracks are flagged with timeshift=125ms. On the backup I made using BD-RB the 00000.m2ts does not have that flag. Is that on purpose?

I mean, is BD-RB compensating for the timeshift?

BDRB produces an out of synch backup for anyone who backs up Batman Begins, you could be on to something there.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the lengthy explanation of the terms and information :) I wasn't really looking back to see if my issue was the same as other peoples. I am aware of there being 2 issues here (mine and the other peoples).

I have personally experienced that "jitter" after running a concert dvd through BDRB when keeping video interlaced to retain that smooth motion of video = you then get the crazy jittering.

However my issue isn't related to that, I am solely talking about extras such as "making of" documentaries that are typically 480\60i. That is to say as I'm sure you are aware that 60 frames per second are generated from the interlaced stream.

This is the effect of creating a live action smooth movement as you would see on modern soap operas\news\sport programs.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying you are incorrect about anything, you obviously have a far greater understanding of the workings of this stuff than me. But I can categorically say that the only way to retain that "live action look" is to keep the source interlaced as it is on the original. When you de-interlace you are halving the frame rate to 29.97fps which can cause some juddering on this "making of" type films. Having the knock on effect of in say "The Matrix" making of documentary making the behind the scense material looking like film material.

Just to give one final example, if you download say an episode of your favourite soap that is shot on video from a torrent site (just for arguments sake) these groups always release their video in progressive format so when you watch it the video has a "film" look to it.

You know like the difference between "live action\film"...

I would like to retain that live action look if at all possible. Sorry for my ramblings and likely repeating myself :)I just did some 1080i encoding with KEEP_INTERLACING=1, and it seems to work correctly. It encodes it with the "--interlaced" flag and it is correctly flagged as 1080i in the output. It also plays back correctly on my PC, I'll burn it to disc and see how it looks on my player. I'll then run it with the default and see how it looks. After that I'll do some testing with 480i.

480/60i is not 60 frames per second, it is 59.94 fields per second (29.97 fps). Whether it is converted to 60fps by your television, I can't say... but it is stored on the Blu-ray disc as 29.97fps. If you review the settings at this site (http://www.emedialive.com/articles/readarticle.aspx?articleid=11397) it'll show you the legal types (resolution, aspect, field and frame rates) for Blu-ray video.

When you de-interlace you are halving the frame rate to 29.97fps which can cause some juddering on this "making of" type films. You're not halving the frame rate, it is 29.97fps either way -- but you are modifying the fields so they can be displayed concurrently without the jagged edges -- so it should have the opposite effect. It also isn't "halving" the field rate because the two lines (odd/even from each field) aren't identical -- but it is "modifying" what was there originally. And as I mentioned, if you have a modern 1080p monitor it is happening within the set anyway.

The names they are applying to video (like 480i/60) are the source of a lot of confusion.

I can tell you that when played back on my Sony 50" 1080p monitor from my Sony S360 BD player, a source that is 1080i looks better when I encode with the BD-RB default than when "KEEP_INTERLACING" is enabled (smoother edges) just because LCDs don't like interlaced output very much. If you have a CRT based HDTV that may not be the case (I can't really say because I just don't know -- I don't think phospher persistency is an issue anymore in modern sets).

[jdobbs]

jdobbs:

I noticed that if I open 00000.m2ts (main movie) on the original batman begins disc using tsmuxergui all the audio tracks are flagged with timeshift=125ms. On the backup I made using BD-RB the 00000.m2ts does not have that flag. Is that on purpose?

I mean, is BD-RB compensating for the timeshift? I have that disc, I'll do an encode and check it out.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the lengthy explanation of the terms and information :) I wasn't really looking back to see if my issue was the same as other peoples. I am aware of there being 2 issues here (mine and the other peoples).

I have personally experienced that "jitter" after running a concert dvd through BDRB when keeping video interlaced to retain that smooth motion of video = you then get the crazy jittering.

However my issue isn't related to that, I am solely talking about extras such as "making of" documentaries that are typically 480\60i. That is to say as I'm sure you are aware that 60 frames per second are generated from the interlaced stream.

This is the effect of creating a live action smooth movement as you would see on modern soap operas\news\sport programs.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying you are incorrect about anything, you obviously have a far greater understanding of the workings of this stuff than me. But I can categorically say that the only way to retain that "live action look" is to keep the source interlaced as it is on the original. When you de-interlace you are halving the frame rate to 29.97fps which can cause some juddering on this "making of" type films. Having the knock on effect of in say "The Matrix" making of documentary making the behind the scense material looking like film material.

Just to give one final example, if you download say an episode of your favourite soap that is shot on video from a torrent site (just for arguments sake) these groups always release their video in progressive format so when you watch it the video has a "film" look to it.

You know like the difference between "live action\film"...

I would like to retain that live action look if at all possible. Sorry for my ramblings and likely repeating myself :) I just did a comparison with KEEP_INTERLACING=1 and the default in BD-RB with a 1080i source. You definitely can see the combing on the edges when you use KEEP_INTERLACING and there is horizontal movement. But it is encoded correctly, I checked all settings in the MPLS, CLPI, etc.. and it's was done right. I have to assume it's just the nature of interlaced output to a modern TV -- either that or X264 isn't truely outputting as interlaced, and I don't think that's likely.

BUT... when I turned KEEP_INTERLACING off (the BD-RB default) -- I ended up with a beautiful 1080p picture that had nice smooth edges during horizontal movement...

I didn't look inside the M2TS for flags, but I have to assume X264 is encoding it correctly.

So the bottom line is -- I don't see anything to fix on the KEEP_INTERLACING=1 side.

One think I could do (and probably will), is still do the deinterlacing within AVISYNTH to clean up the edges but keep the output as 1080i so it matches the original...

I'm going to see if selecting movie-only makes a difference...

[Nkotok]

Sorry, I have not been able to follow the development of the program and wanted to know if any improvements have been made to 24f playability on Panasonic players (in BD25 Movie only mode) and also to more exact output size (undersized and sometimes oversized files were output before). Thank you in advance.

[Race Guy]

I can tell you that when played back on my Sony 50" 1080p monitor from my Sony S360 BD player, a source that is 1080i looks better when I encode with the BD-RB default than when "KEEP_INTERLACING" is enabled (smoother edges) just because LCDs don't like interlaced output very much. If you have a CRT based HDTV that may not be the case (I can't really say because I just don't know -- I don't think phospher persistency is an issue anymore in modern sets).

jdobbs......., doesn't the deinterlace happen in the player?

And isn't that the preferred method since the player would have MUCH more video "horsepower" than a screen would?

On the Oppo, it does the deinterlace & then outputs 1080p or 108p/24 to the screen. In the setup menu, I can select the following deinterlace modes:

Auto (that's where I leave it, 'cause 1080p & original "i" looks GREAT)
Film Bias Mode
Video Bias Mode
2:2 Odd
2:2 Even

Couldn't tell you what each of those are supposed to do, but I tried all those with the bum 1080i RB's & didn't see any real diff. I'd suspect, it's because the source is FUBAR up & can't be "saved".

[Race Guy]

BUT... when I turned KEEP_INTERLACING off (the BD-RB default) -- I ended up with a beautiful 1080p picture that had nice smooth edges during horizontal movement...

Where are you reading this "1080p" picture info. When you say "1080p", you mean 1080p/24?

Referring to my "poster child" 1080i RB done at "default", if I bring up the Oppo "on screen info", it says "AVC BDMV 29.97fps 16:9".

I can't believe the Oppo would LIE to me! Or maybe, something in the RB is "confusing" it, telling it to deinterlace when it shouldn't???

[Furiousflea]

I just did a comparison with KEEP_INTERLACING=1 and the default in BD-RB with a 1080i source. You definitely can see the combing on the edges when you use KEEP_INTERLACING and there is horizontal movement. But it is encoded correctly, I checked all settings in the MPLS, CLPI, etc.. and it's was done right. I have to assume it's just the nature of interlaced output to a modern TV -- either that or X264 isn't truely outputting as interlaced, and I don't think that's likely.

BUT... when I turned KEEP_INTERLACING off (the BD-RB default) -- I ended up with a beautiful 1080p picture that had nice smooth edges during horizontal movement...

I didn't look inside the M2TS for flags, but I have to assume X264 is encoding it correctly.

So the bottom line is -- I don't see anything to fix on the KEEP_INTERLACING=1 side.

One think I could do (and probably will), is still do the deinterlacing within AVISYNTH to clean up the edges but keep the output as 1080i so it matches the original...

I'm going to see if selecting movie-only makes a difference...

Okey dokey, thanx for looking into that. If I may be so cheeky, if you do have "The Matrix" (or any of the trilogy I would assume since they were released with matching extras) would you be so kind as to have a look at the main making of documentary with\without with "KEEP_INTERLACIN=1".

If you could then go to a bit that is live action behind the scenes and tell me if you can see the film look you get as you would in a main movie Vs how it looks on the original.

I guess there really is no way around it then, but I'm greatful for you having a good look at it as you have.

Cheers, Rob

[Sharc]

I was able to repeat the demuxing issue on Black Hawk Down with the Region A disc. It a TSMUXER issue, though, and I'm not sure I can do anything about it.
This sequence works for me:
1. demux the .m2ts with TSMUXER
2. re-size and re-encode the video
3. resize the original .sup from 1. using Sup2Sub.jar
4. remux 2. and 3. with TSMUXER

Perhaps you may want to include Sup2Sub in the Tools.

[Aratar]

I just did a comparison with KEEP_INTERLACING=1 and the default in BD-RB with a 1080i source. You definitely can see the combing on the edges when you use KEEP_INTERLACING and there is horizontal movement. But it is encoded correctly, I checked all settings in the MPLS, CLPI, etc.. and it's was done right.

When you see combing on interlaced encoded material then your playback filter/software isn't properly deinterlacing the interlaced material. There are several 'methods' to deinterlace the picture for a progressive screen playback. Not all of them 'reveal' field order issues. The issue I was talking about looks like that:

http://www.100fps.com/wrongfieldorder.avi
(taken from http://www.climaxtek.com/Faq/Deinterlacing.htm)

As I said, I encode interlaced material with the keep_interlacing=1 function (reason I mentioned earlier) and the output looks just like that on my standalone player as well as proper playback software like 'powerdvd 9' (deinterlacing is set to hardware).
I remember using mpeg2 encoding it was even possible to change the field order interpretation 'after' the encoding with a bitstream modifier (like pulldown.exe, restream or whatever) but I doubt that's possible with mpeg4 derivates.

[jdobbs]

Where are you reading this "1080p" picture info. When you say "1080p", you mean 1080p/24?

Referring to my "poster child" 1080i RB done at "default", if I bring up the Oppo "on screen info", it says "AVC BDMV 29.97fps 16:9".

I can't believe the Oppo would LIE to me! Or maybe, something in the RB is "confusing" it, telling it to deinterlace when it shouldn't??? You make a good point. The answer is "No." And that's an issue I have to fix for the next version. Even though every player I know of will play 1080p/29.97 -- it isn't in the BD standard.

[jdobbs]

Okey dokey, thanx for looking into that. If I may be so cheeky, if you do have "The Matrix" (or any of the trilogy I would assume since they were released with matching extras) would you be so kind as to have a look at the main making of documentary with\without with "KEEP_INTERLACIN=1".

If you could then go to a bit that is live action behind the scenes and tell me if you can see the film look you get as you would in a main movie Vs how it looks on the original.

I guess there really is no way around it then, but I'm greatful for you having a good look at it as you have.

Cheers, Rob I have "The Matrix" but not the others (yet). I'll test it.

[jdobbs]

Sorry, I have not been able to follow the development of the program and wanted to know if any improvements have been made to 24f playability on Panasonic players (in BD25 Movie only mode) and also to more exact output size (undersized and sometimes oversized files were output before). Thank you in advance. I can only say the my encodes are almost always exactly what I expect unless single-pass CRF is selected. I can't speak for others. I can say that most of the "sizing issues" I've heard of are against "tweaked" originals or "tweaked" processing. I can't address those.

[Capsbackup]

jdobbs:

I noticed that if I open 00000.m2ts (main movie) on the original batman begins disc using tsmuxergui all the audio tracks are flagged with timeshift=125ms. On the backup I made using BD-RB the 00000.m2ts does not have that flag. Is that on purpose?

I mean, is BD-RB compensating for the timeshift?

@PurpleMan;
I commented on this to you back on 8-22-08, post #4725 (page 237)


I am curious, if you burn your backup to BD-R/RE media and play it back on a standalone, does the movie have the audio in sync?
Mine was off by 250ms, very noticeable and not enjoyable to watch. It took some adjusting to finally get the audio in sync, but the backup looks great!
My region A original Batman Begins shows 83ms audio delay for all audio tracks. I and others (Furiousflea at least) have also reported this issue.
I was only able to get the audio in sync by doing a manual backup of 00000.m2ts by command line with the meta file from BD-RB, inserting timeshift = 250 in that meta file, rebuilding that 00000.m2ts file individually, and substituting it in place of the BD-RB version upon rebuild. ( 83ms did not correctly fix the async)
Tedious, yes, but the backup plays in sync now. ( I can be determined at times :p )
I reported this way back, and at that time seems like one of those rare discs that are troublesome. But timing is everything. :) I did not want to present jdobbs with an issue that is rare and not highly reported as a bug. ( not sure it is)
I believe jdobbs reported that audio delays are corrected with BD-RB, but not sure when. It would not have mattered with this disc anyway, since the actual 83ms delay was not enough to correct the async anyway.

[Aratar]

Another thing:

you can find out about the field order by evaluating movement using the avisynth command:

DirectshowSource("00xxx.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=10328, audio=false)
AssumeBFF().SeparateFields() <-- BFF if movement is fluent
#AssumeTFF().SeperateFields() <-- TFF if movement is fluent
ConvertToYV12()

as well as swap the field order for encoding with

SwapFields()

so I guess there'd be no need for a patched x264 version.

[jdobbs]

Another thing:

you can find out about the field order by evaluating movement using the avisynth command:

DirectshowSource("00xxx.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=10328, audio=false)
AssumeBFF().SeparateFields() <-- BFF if movement is fluent
#AssumeTFF().SeperateFields() <-- TFF if movement is fluent
ConvertToYV12()

as well as swap the field order for encoding with

SwapFields()

so I guess there'd be no need for a patched x264 version. Uhhh... and I'm supposed to make a program do that how???? Or were you suggesting that I put a person in the BD-RB zip file for distribution to look at the output?

Also, doing what you are suggesting would make it playback correctly on an output device. But it gets frame-served to the encoder, and if an encoder will only do one type (e.g. TFF) or it has nothing telling it that the field order and it is getting fed frames for encoding, this won't do a thing. This first example doesn't change the position of the lines in the frame in any way. Swapfields actually will change the fields assuming you know when it is wrong -- but they are now out of position (line 2 is now above line 1, etc.) and what do you do when you have hybrid streams or changing field orders?

[Edit] By the way -- I have no idea how X264 detects or outputs interlaced field order, so please don't quote me as saying it does it one way or the other.

[jdobbs]

When you see combing on interlaced encoded material then your playback filter/software isn't properly deinterlacing the interlaced material. There are several 'methods' to deinterlace the picture for a progressive screen playback. Not all of them 'reveal' field order issues. The issue I was talking about looks like that:

http://www.100fps.com/wrongfieldorder.avi
(taken from http://www.climaxtek.com/Faq/Deinterlacing.htm)

As I said, I encode interlaced material with the keep_interlacing=1 function (reason I mentioned earlier) and the output looks just like that on my standalone player as well as proper playback software like 'powerdvd 9' (deinterlacing is set to hardware).
I remember using mpeg2 encoding it was even possible to change the field order interpretation 'after' the encoding with a bitstream modifier (like pulldown.exe, restream or whatever) but I doubt that's possible with mpeg4 derivates. You can change the field order to what you want by shifting up or down one line. That's how CCE does it with its MPEG encoding. You can't change the order after encoding (pulldown.exe isn't related to that in any way, it works to change a framerate by using RFF/TFF flags to insert pseudoframes).

As I've said (several times now) the problem isn't in the changing of field order-- it is in the detection of field order. Just because a stream starts with one field order, there is no guarantee it stays that way. In fact you will find sources that also embed progressive content with pulldown in random places throughout the stream. I am trying to avoid having to do a 40GB scan of every source... I can do that very easily and simply by decombing the source. Which (surprise, surprise) is exactly what the default setting already does.

You're suggesting manual interface solutions as a solution and are making the assumption that since you can look at a screen and say "that doesn't look right" it should be easy to program the same. That very definitely isn't the case.

[jdobbs]

To all,

Enough on this interlacing subject. I appreciate the help, but I understand very well how all this all works. I'll work on it and do it the way I think is best. No more suggestions... let's please get back to bug reports.

[PurpleMan]

@PurpleMan;
I commented on this to you back on 8-22-08, post #4725 (page 237)


My region A original Batman Begins shows 83ms audio delay for all audio tracks. I and others (Furiousflea at least) have also reported this issue.
I was only able to get the audio in sync by doing a manual backup of 00000.m2ts by command line with the meta file from BD-RB, inserting timeshift = 250 in that meta file, rebuilding that 00000.m2ts file individually, and substituting it in place of the BD-RB version upon rebuild. ( 83ms did not correctly fix the async)
Tedious, yes, but the backup plays in sync now. ( I can be determined at times :p )
I reported this way back, and at that time seems like one of those rare discs that are troublesome. But timing is everything. :) I did not want to present jdobbs with an issue that is rare and not highly reported as a bug. ( not sure it is)
I believe jdobbs reported that audio delays are corrected with BD-RB, but not sure when. It would not have mattered with this disc anyway, since the actual 83ms delay was not enough to correct the async anyway.

You are mistaken, the only audio track with a 83ms delay is the secondary audio for the PiP. the rest of the tracks have a 125ms delay, and as far as I can tell when I delay the audio of my backup for 125ms it puts the movie in sync.
I might be wrong tho. Either way, this is an issue that needs to be addressed, so I think it's best we'll let jdobbs have a look at it, as he has the disc himself.

[jdobbs]

Okey dokey, thanx for looking into that. If I may be so cheeky, if you do have "The Matrix" (or any of the trilogy I would assume since they were released with matching extras) would you be so kind as to have a look at the main making of documentary with\without with "KEEP_INTERLACIN=1".

If you could then go to a bit that is live action behind the scenes and tell me if you can see the film look you get as you would in a main movie Vs how it looks on the original.

I guess there really is no way around it then, but I'm greatful for you having a good look at it as you have.

Cheers, Rob There's always a way around it, even if we don't yet know what it is yet... which (of the many) videos are you referencing? They all look like "making of" to me. If you know the M2TS, that would make it a lot easier.

[gandalf027]

Hey jdobbs,

Been a long time user of dvd rebuilder .. trying the br version ;)
I tried with The Shawshank Redemption movie only and i got this .. it seems it's the famous error.
I am runing on Windows 7.
Maybe it's the cause of the problem?
Thanks

[00:20:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:20:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [00:30:52] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 1)
- [00:30:52] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 205.076 frames
- Bitrate: 6.431 Kbs
- [00:30:52] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:31:53] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Encode failed. Retrying.

[Capsbackup]

You are mistaken, the only audio track with a 83ms delay is the secondary audio for the PiP. the rest of the tracks have a 125ms delay, and as far as I can tell when I delay the audio of my backup for 125ms it puts the movie in sync.
I might be wrong tho. Either way, this is an issue that needs to be addressed, so I think it's best we'll let jdobbs have a look at it, as he has the disc himself.

My Region A version is 83ms for ALL audio tracks. If yours is region A, then this will prove interesting!
I exhausted myself on this disc, and 83ms did not correct the async for me.
I agree that if jdobbs can address/confirm that any and all audio delays are corrected by BD-RB, this would be welcome.
As a side note, my BD-RB backup, if viewing the .m2ts file or the .mpls file, shows 0ms delay. The original .m2ts and .mpls files show the 83ms delay. If BD-RB does correct this delay, I am curious when and where. For most of my backups, I select do not reencode audio files, and keep HD audio for BD-25 backups. Thus the original audio file is kept. So where is the audio delay being corrected if not the .mpls, maybe the clpi? :confused:

[jdobbs]

Hey jdobbs,

Been a long time user of dvd rebuilder .. trying the br version ;)
I tried with The Shawshank Redemption movie only and i got this .. it seems it's the famous error.
I am runing on Windows 7.
Maybe it's the cause of the problem?
Thanks

[00:20:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:20:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [00:30:52] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 1)
- [00:30:52] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 205.076 frames
- Bitrate: 6.431 Kbs
- [00:30:52] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:31:53] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Encode failed. Retrying. What version are you using? I have to assume it's not that latest since that error is fixed now. I also noticed that you've stripped it from your post of the log.

[jointer]

Hi all

I have been tring to back up my new BD Grand Torino and State of Play and am having a fit. I've been using BD Rebuilder for almost a year without any issue now I've tried everthing and keep getting the error pasted below. As you can see I've tried the last 3 versions of BD Rebuilder with the same results. Any Ideas?

I've uninstalled and reinstalled the lates software posted here with no results.

I started using BD Rebuilder on Windows 7 beta x64 and now am using Windows 7 RC x64 I have not had any issues untill Grand Torino.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

jointer


[18:51:09] BD Rebuilder v0.29.01 (beta)
- Source: GRAN_TORINO
- Input BD size: 27.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:34.779]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[18:51:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:51:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [19:00:37] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[19:03:47] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[19:37:50] BD Rebuilder v0.29.02 (beta)
- Source: GRAN_TORINO
- Input BD size: 27.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:34.779]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19:37:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:37:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [19:47:20] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 1)
- [19:47:31] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.

[22:00:19] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: GRAN_TORINO
- Input BD size: 27.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:34.779]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[22:00:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:00:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [22:09:49] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 1)
- [22:10:50] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [22:11:51] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [22:12:52] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[22:12:53] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[22:27:27] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: GRAN_TORINO
- Input BD size: 27.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:34.779]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[22:27:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:27:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [22:36:55] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 1)
- [22:37:55] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [22:38:57] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [22:39:58] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[22:39:59] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[20:19:03] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: STATE_OF_PLAY
- Input BD size: 27.36 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:07:08.037]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:19:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:19:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [20:27:34] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 2)
- [20:28:34] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [20:29:40] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [20:30:42] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[20:30:43] - Failed video encode, aborted

[Status]
LABEL=GRAN_TORINO
VERSION=v0.29.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=29708101632
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=29708101632
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.279191052418707
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00004]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=10000000
M2TS_TARGET=8294236160
RATE=8068

[Status]
LABEL=STATE_OF_PLAY
VERSION=v0.29.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=29373247488
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=29373247488
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.282373822076993
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00010]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=10000
M2TS_TARGET=8292249694
RATE=7326

[Race Guy]

You make a good point. The answer is "No." And that's an issue I have to fix for the next version. Even though every player I know of will play 1080p/29.97 -- it isn't in the BD standard.

OK jdobbs, I think we've have "CLARITY" now!

Guess what?!?! The Oppo WILL NOT "process" 1080p/29.97, obviously 'cause "it isn't in the BD standard". My guess is, it sees "29.97fps" & goes "this needs to be deinterlaced". It then does that & out comes "trashed" video to my screen.

BUT........, all is NOT lost! In the Oppo setup menu, we have: "Video Setup >> Output Resolution". Then you get a list where you choose your screen's "native rez". At the bottom of the list, there's "Source Direct". Choosing that, bypasses the player's internal processing/deinterlacer.

So I choose that and BOOM, my Samsung screen can read "1080p/29.97" & my "unwatchable" disc now looks pretty much just like the original! If that's what you mean by "every player I know of will play 1080p/29.97", I guess the Oppo "plays it" too!

The BIG question is, WHERE do you go from here? Outputting "non BD standard" vid seems wrong on the face of it. I'll BET the Flea's "Matrix Extras" cause his player to "choke" the same way mine did. Let me guess, 480p/29.97 isn't "BD standard" either.

Once I get a few spare CPU cycles, I'm gonna try the "KEEP_INTERLACING=1" switch, let Mr. Oppo deinterlace it & we'll see what I get.

See ya!

[vsj023]

jdobbs

i posted this earlier and i know your very busy with this program that is awesome, updated to the newest version and everytime i try to backup my copy of "Sunshine" it gives me the following:
[22:01:29] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: SUNSHINE_US
- Input BD size: 36.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:45:18.805]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[22:01:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:01:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: E:\VIDEOS\BLU-RAY\SUNSHINE_US\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: E:\VIDEOS\BLU-RAY\SUNSHINE_US\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
[22:01:37] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Here's the INI:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\VIDEOS\BLU-RAY\SUNSHINE_US\
WORKING_PATH=C:\WORKING\

I re-installed latest ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid, latest Haali app and Avisynth_257 and i kee getting the same error. I have used this app from the beginning and i've never had problems until this version of BD Rebuilder. Any suggestions? I would really appreciate the help. Thanks.

[Furiousflea]

There's always a way around it, even if we don't yet know what it is yet... which (of the many) videos are you referencing? They all look like "making of" to me. If you know the M2TS, that would make it a lot easier.

Any of the 480i\60 m2ts will be fine as long as they contain "live action" video AND film too.

This results in...

1. zig-zags everywhere. (KEEP_INTERLACING=1)

OR

2. Juddering. (KEEP_INTERLACING=0)

(This is apparent on all discs I have checked in parts that were originally 480i\60)

If you run the m2ts through an encoding frontend like "Ripbot264" and set your output to 60fps AND de-interlace. You will see what the original looks like. Sure the 60fps might be interpolated technically from the fields, but it's how all live action video is output to get that 60fps look.

I'm just trying to retain that look.

[astraub]

Hi,

just tried to process Die hard 4 with BR RB - unfortunaely it tells me that the (decrypted) copy is not in BD format. I had a closer look and found that the main movie is 00020.m2ts instead of the usual 00001.mts. The first two numbers (00001.m2ts and 00002.m2ts) are completely missing on the disk !?

Any idea what could be done?

[jdobbs]

Hi,

just tried to process Die hard 4 with BR RB - unfortunaely it tells me that the (decrypted) copy is not in BD format. I had a closer look and found that the main movie is 00020.m2ts instead of the usual 00001.mts. The first two numbers (00001.m2ts and 00002.m2ts) are completely missing on the disk !?

Any idea what could be done? That means exactly what it says. The path you chose isn't properly formatted for BD. You are either missing M2TS, MPLS, or CLPI file(s) -- or one of the required directories. It was either a bad rip or files have been deleted. Sometimes people point to the wrong directory and cause this as well.

The directory isn't required to have 00001.m2ts or 00002.m2ts. It is only required to have some m2ts.

[jdobbs]

Any of the 480i\60 m2ts will be fine as long as they contain "live action" video AND film too.

This results in...

1. zig-zags everywhere. (KEEP_INTERLACING=1)

OR

2. Juddering. (KEEP_INTERLACING=0)

(This is apparent on all discs I have checked in parts that were originally 480i\60)

If you run the m2ts through an encoding frontend like "Ripbot264" and set your output to 60fps AND de-interlace. You will see what the original looks like. Sure the 60fps might be interpolated technically from the fields, but it's how all live action video is output to get that 60fps look.

I'm just trying to retain that look. Juddering?

I don't have a clue what outputting to 60fps has to do with anything... but I can assure you there is no BD standard for it.

[jdobbs]

OK jdobbs, I think we've have "CLARITY" now!

Guess what?!?! The Oppo WILL NOT "process" 1080p/29.97, obviously 'cause "it isn't in the BD standard". My guess is, it sees "29.97fps" & goes "this needs to be deinterlaced". It then does that & out comes "trashed" video to my screen.

BUT........, all is NOT lost! In the Oppo setup menu, we have: "Video Setup >> Output Resolution". Then you get a list where you choose your screen's "native rez". At the bottom of the list, there's "Source Direct". Choosing that, bypasses the player's internal processing/deinterlacer.

So I choose that and BOOM, my Samsung screen can read "1080p/29.97" & my "unwatchable" disc now looks pretty much just like the original! If that's what you mean by "every player I know of will play 1080p/29.97", I guess the Oppo "plays it" too!

The BIG question is, WHERE do you go from here? Outputting "non BD standard" vid seems wrong on the face of it. I'll BET the Flea's "Matrix Extras" cause his player to "choke" the same way mine did. Let me guess, 480p/29.97 isn't "BD standard" either.

Once I get a few spare CPU cycles, I'm gonna try the "KEEP_INTERLACING=1" switch, let Mr. Oppo deinterlace it & we'll see what I get.

See ya! I'm making some changes for the next release. When I'm done all interlaced sources will be decombed and output as interlaced.

[jdobbs]

Okey dokey, thanx for looking into that. If I may be so cheeky, if you do have "The Matrix" (or any of the trilogy I would assume since they were released with matching extras) would you be so kind as to have a look at the main making of documentary with\without with "KEEP_INTERLACIN=1".

If you could then go to a bit that is live action behind the scenes and tell me if you can see the film look you get as you would in a main movie Vs how it looks on the original.

I guess there really is no way around it then, but I'm greatful for you having a good look at it as you have.

Cheers, Rob I see what you mean. The extras in "The Matrix" are exceptionally ugly. I'm working on it to see if there's anything I can do.

[OEM]

My apologies if this is a known problem, I did a search and couldn't find anything;

I've had no problems with 1080p/DVD9, but I recently tried the 720p resize option with mixed results (on Windows 7). I tried the following movies:

The Happening (Region A)
Max Payne (Region B)
The Mirror (Region B)
Bedtime Stories (Region B)

Only Bedtime Stories came out at 720p, the rest were all 1080p. I tried again on a different computer running Vista 64 with the exact same results. I also tried older versions of BD Rebuilder again with no luck. I then tried The Dark Knight (Region B), and it came out at 720p. So that's two out of five movies that worked so far.

This is no big deal. BD Rebuilder is a terrific piece of software, and this is a minor problem. But I thought I'd mention it anyway. Could there be something wrong with my setup ?

[Sharc]

@OEM
Interesting; the same happened to me recently: I enabled resize to 720p, but the encode came out as 1080p (although the .log confirmed the resizing to 720p). Don't know if this may happen only when the BD contains PIP (secondary video).

[jdobbs]

My apologies if this is a known problem, I did a search and couldn't find anything;

I've had no problems with 1080p/DVD9, but I recently tried the 720p resize option with mixed results (on Windows 7). I tried the following movies:

The Happening (Region A)
Max Payne (Region B)
The Mirror (Region B)
Bedtime Stories (Region B)

Only Bedtime Stories came out at 720p, the rest were all 1080p. I tried again on a different computer running Vista 64 with the exact same results. I also tried older versions of BD Rebuilder again with no luck. I then tried The Dark Knight (Region B), and it came out at 720p. So that's two out of five movies that worked so far.

This is no big deal. BD Rebuilder is a terrific piece of software, and this is a minor problem. But I thought I'd mention it anyway. Could there be something wrong with my setup ? I don't know how that could happen... I'll take a look at it.

If may very well be that I disabled the resize when there is PiP (I seem to recall doing so), but I'll have to check.

[jdobbs]

Okey dokey, thanx for looking into that. If I may be so cheeky, if you do have "The Matrix" (or any of the trilogy I would assume since they were released with matching extras) would you be so kind as to have a look at the main making of documentary with\without with "KEEP_INTERLACIN=1".

If you could then go to a bit that is live action behind the scenes and tell me if you can see the film look you get as you would in a main movie Vs how it looks on the original.

I guess there really is no way around it then, but I'm greatful for you having a good look at it as you have.

Cheers, Rob I gotta tell you, for all the space that is available on BD, there is absolutely no excuse for how bad the quality is on the extras of "The Matrix" -- and I'm talking about the original disc, here, not the backup... it's a blocky mess.

[gandalf027]

What version are you using? I have to assume it's not that latest since that error is fixed now. I also noticed that you've stripped it from your post of the log.

Well i think it was Windows7 .. tried on a Vista 64b and no problem so far.

I'll give more feedback once it's finished.

cheers

[setarip_old]

@gandalf027

I believe "jdobbs" is asking you which version of BD Rebuilder you are using, not which O/S...

[gandalf027]

@gandalf027

I believe "jdobbs" is asking you which version of BD Rebuilder you are using, not which O/S...

It's the last version .. with windows7 it gave me te error .. with windows vista 64b all went well.

[astraub]

In the latest version the program does not automatically select the languages and subtitles, which have been selected in the programs preferences, anymore.

[Willobee]

@astraub

I am not having this problem. Automatic selection of langauges and subtitles is working for the BD's I have been rebuilding. Is this a problem on all of your BD's or just a single one?

Using v0.29.03 you can double click the subtitles and languages to toggle them off and on if the automatic slection does not work.

[samtroy]

@jdobbs

Is there a bug in the latest version? I'm doing tests with my purchased copy of ST and choose 2 different AC3 audiotracks (english and italian). I also choose 'Do not reencode AC3 streams'.

But BD Rebuilder DOES reencode the AC3 audiotracks! Afterwards there are *four* (not two!) AC3 files in the workfolder of almost the same size and similar names.

Why is that? Is this normal?

Here are the relevant ini settings:

RESIZE=0
MODE=1
TARGET_SIZE=8300
...
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8300
[Paths]
...

Thanks for your help.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Is there a bug in the latest version? I'm doing tests with my purchased copy of Sweeney Todd and choose 2 different AC3 audiotracks (english and italian). I also choose 'Do not reencode AC3 streams'.

But BD Rebuilder DOES reencode the AC3 audiotracks! Afterwards there are *four* (not two!) AC3 files in the workfolder of almost the same size and similar names.

Why is that? Is this normal?

Here are the relevant ini settings:

RESIZE=0
MODE=1
TARGET_SIZE=8300
...
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8300
[Paths]
...

Thanks for your help. No bug that I know of. Are you using BATCH mode? In BATCH, the settings are stored when you add it to the queue, and any changes made later has no effect on the BATCH encode.

Also, are you sure two of the tracks aren't secondary audio tracks? You said "similar names", which would be the case if that were so.

[edit] I just went back and looked at the code and it is implemented correctly. I did a couple of tests, and they appear to have worked correctly also.

[jdobbs]

I have just updated the link of the first page of this thread to a new version of BD-RB (v0.29.04). Changes for this version: - Made one more adjustment to prevent "GUI Issue,
no hWnd returned". I think this may be gone for
good now. It finally became clear as to what was
causing this to randomly occur.
- Fixed an error in which progressive output could
under some circumstances be created at an illegal
(29.97fps, 25fps) framerate.
- Changed the default processing for interlaced
sources. All sources that are interlaced now are
kept interlaced in the output. This means the
"KEEP_INTERLACING" INI setting has been removed
(as unnecessary)
- Added a "DEINTERLACING=" hidden option, see the
description in HIDDENOPTS.TXT for details.
- Changed the type of AVISYNTH preprocessing used to
ensure comb-free deinterlacing. Interlaced sources
should be more crisp, and free of jagged edges now.
- Corrected a "Selected source is not BD format" error
that could happen on very small sources.
- Added a "quick search" function to identify sources
that are Bottom Field First (BFF) interlaced.
- Added code to scan all M2TS files and find audio
streams that have delayed PTS times (for correction).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[chudm]

I have just updated the link of the first page of this thread to a new version of BD-RB (v0.29.04). Changes for this version: - Made one more adjustment to prevent "GUI Issue,
no hWnd returned". I think this may be gone for
good now. It finally became clear as to what was
causing this to randomly occur.
- Fixed an error in which progressive output could
under some circumstances be created at an illegal
(29.97fps, 25fps) framerate.
- Changed the default processing for interlaced
sources. All sources that are interlaced now are
kept interlaced in the output. This means the
"KEEP_INTERLACING" INI setting has been removed
(as unnecessary)
- Added a "DEINTERLACING=" hidden option, see the
description in HIDDENOPTS.TXT for details.
- Changed the type of AVISYNTH preprocessing used to
ensure comb-free deinterlacing. Interlaced sources
should be more crisp, and free of jagged edges now.
- Corrected a "Selected source is not BD format" error
that could happen on very small sources.
- Added a "quick search" function to identify sources
that are Bottom Field First (BFF) interlaced.
- Added code to scan all M2TS files and find audio
streams that have delayed PTS times (for correction).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

great news man! thx! :)

[PurpleMan]

- Added code to scan all M2TS files and find audio
streams that have delayed PTS times (for correction).

Is this refering to the Batman Begins timeshift bug? If so, could you elaborate what exactly was the problem and how we're working around it?

Thanks for the excellent work!

[jdobbs]

Is this refering to the Batman Begins timeshift bug? If so, could you elaborate what exactly was the problem and how we're working around it?

Thanks for the excellent work! Yes. In looking at the M2TS file, I noticed that the first Presentation Time Stamp (PTS) for the audio track doesn't start until 83ms after the first PTS for the video. That's where the sync error came from. I just added a routine that scans all M2TS files looking for the starting PTS for video/audio tracks and accounted for any delta. If there is one, I then put a corrective "timeshift=XXms" in the meta when demuxing the audio.

Interestingly, this is pretty rare -- I could only find one other disc of my standard working/test set that had an offset, and it wasn't enough to matter (about 6ms). But you have to cover all scenarios. The new scan will probably add a couple of seconds to the initial scan of most discs when you select the source path.

As long as I was scanning anyway -- I also added code that looks for the TFF flag on video streams -- so I can sense when a source was BFF (but not pulldown)... which, by the way, turned out to be part of the the issue with the "Making Of" extras on "The Matrix".

[Capsbackup]

Yes. In looking at the M2TS file, I noticed that the first Presentation Time Stamp (PTS) for the audio track doesn't start until 83ms after the first PTS for the video. That's where the sync error came from. I just added a routine that scans all M2TS files looking for the starting PTS for video/audio tracks and accounted for any delta. If there is one, I then put a corrective "timeshift=XXms" in the meta when demuxing the audio.

Interestingly, this is pretty rare -- I could only find one other disc of my standard working/test set that had an offset, and it wasn't enough to matter (about 6ms). But you have to cover all scenarios. The new scan will probably add a couple of seconds to the initial scan of most discs when you select the source path.

As long as I was scanning anyway -- I also added code that looks for the TFF flag on video streams -- so I can sense when a source was BFF (but not pulldown)... which, by the way, turned out to be part of the the issue with the "Making Of" extras on "The Matrix".

I agree, there are not many discs I have come across that have audio delays. However, could you clarify the correction.
If the original .mpls/m2ts shows a delay, for example Batman Begins 83ms, should BD-RB's backup also show a delay in the same mpls/m2ts?
If one chooses to keep HD audio and do not reencode ac3, will this delay be maintained per example above? Or is there another method for you to correct/address the delay?
I guess I am just curious how to determine that the delay is correct besides the visual check I always perform anyway. :p

[jdobbs]

I agree, there are not many discs I have come across that have audio delays. However, could you clarify the correction.
If the original .mpls/m2ts shows a delay, for example Batman Begins 83ms, should BD-RB's backup also show a delay in the same mpls/m2ts?
If one chooses to keep HD audio and do not reencode ac3, will this delay be maintained per example above? Or is there another method for you to correct/address the delay?
I guess I am just curious how to determine that the delay is correct besides the visual check I always perform anyway. :p No. Not normally. The audio stream is corrected to include the delay. For example, if you have an 83ms delay you would put 83ms of silence at the beginning of the audio stream. I'm actually letting TSMUXER do the adjustment during the demux by using the timeshift command -- but that would be my guess as to how it does it. Since the delay is added during the demux, it would carry through any reencode, or be there already if you do keep the HD original.

[Capsbackup]

No. Not normally. The audio stream is corrected to include the delay. For example, if you have an 83ms delay you would put 83ms of silence at the beginning of the audio stream. I'm actually letting TSMUXER do the adjustment during the demux by using the timeshift command -- but that would be my guess as to how it does it. Since the delay is added during the demux, it would carry through any reencode, or be there already if you do keep the HD original.

Interesting. Is there any way to tell if tsMuxer applies the delay to the demux?
My experiment with Batman Begins, doing just this and remuxing it back into BD-RB would still not bring the audio in sync.
Only after editing the BD-RB meta file for this m2ts file to "time shift=250",( 83ms was not enough) then rebuilding that m2ts thru the command line, and then substituting this new m2ts into the BD-RB rebuild was I able to get the audio in sync.
I noticed that when checking this new mpls/m2ts created with BD-RB with tsMuxeR, it now also showed the 250ms delay.
This worked for me for this disc, be it cumbersome, audio was now in sync.
So, not to be a bother, but this method of timeshift within the BD-RB meta file also works, and seems to reflect the original mpls/m2ts as well.

[jdobbs]

Interesting. Is there any way to tell if tsMuxer applies the delay to the demux?
My experiment with Batman Begins, doing just this and remuxing it back into BD-RB would still not bring the audio in sync.
Only after editing the BD-RB meta file for this m2ts file to "time shift=250",( 83ms was not enough) then rebuilding that m2ts thru the command line, and then substituting this new m2ts into the BD-RB rebuild was I able to get the audio in sync.
I noticed that when checking this new mpls/m2ts created with BD-RB with tsMuxeR, it now also showed the 250ms delay.
This worked for me for this disc, be it cumbersome, audio was now in sync.
So, not to be a bother, but this method of timeshift within the BD-RB meta file also works, and seems to reflect the original mpls/m2ts as well. Hmmm... I'm doing "Batman Begins" right now -- I'll let you know how it turns out. If it doesn't work like I thought, I can add the delay during the remux (which is what I'm guessing you did).

[Capsbackup]

Hmmm... I'm doing "Batman Begins" right now -- I'll let you know how it turns out. If it doesn't work like I thought, I can add the delay during the remux (which is what I'm guessing you did).

Correct. I inserted/edited BD-RB's meta file for that m2ts with "timeshift=250ms" in the appropriate location within that meta file.
However, just editing and saving this meta file inside the Workfiles folder was not working. Upon rebuild, BD-RB would change/correct my edits to back to the original meta. I had to run that edited meta from the command line, and then substitute this new m2ts/clpi into the BD-RB Workfiles folder for a new rebuild. ( Using a creative rebuild, canceling the rebuild just after the final m2ts is created, substituting the new m2ts/clpi for the ones BD-RB just rebuilt, and then selecting rebuild again and letting BD-RB just integrate all those m2ts/clpi/mpls files into the new BluRay structure. :)
EDIT:
I will be curious if you have audio sync this first time try. Though 83ms is the original delay, this was not enough to correct the async for me. Only after several tests/burns to BD-RE did I finally get audio sync, but it took 250ms. Definately an odd disc!

[jdobbs]

Correct. I inserted/edited BD-RB's meta file for that m2ts with "timeshift=250ms" in the appropriate location within that meta file.
However, just editing and saving this meta file inside the Workfiles folder was not working. Upon rebuild, BD-RB would change/correct my edits to back to the original meta. I had to run that edited meta from the command line, and then substitute this new m2ts/clpi into the BD-RB Workfiles folder for a new rebuild. ( Using a creative rebuild, canceling the rebuild just after the final m2ts is created, substituting the new m2ts/clpi for the ones BD-RB just rebuilt, and then selecting rebuild again and letting BD-RB just integrate all those m2ts/clpi/mpls files into the new BluRay structure. :)
EDIT:
I will be curious if you have audio sync this first time try. Though 83ms is the original delay, this was not enough to correct the async for me. Only after several tests/burns to BD-RE did I finally get audio sync, but it took 250ms. Definately an odd disc! I just tested it. 83ms is the correct value on my system, it synched up perfectly (after I did it right)... but in the release I did it ass-backwards. The "timeshift" parameter has to be (as you did it) on the mux, not the demux.

I've corrected it for the next release. Luckily there aren't very many discs out there that need it.

[Capsbackup]

I just tested it. 83ms is the correct value on my system, it synched up perfectly (after I did it right)... but in the release I did it ass-backwards. The "timeshift" parameter has to be (as you did it) on the mux, not the demux.

I've corrected it for the next release. Luckily there aren't very many discs out there that need it.

Great! Thankfully there are not many discs made with audio delays of significance, but when there is, you have it covered. :p :thanks:

[samtroy]

No bug that I know of. Are you using BATCH mode? In BATCH, the settings are stored when you add it to the queue, and any changes made later has no effect on the BATCH encode.

Also, are you sure two of the tracks aren't secondary audio tracks? You said "similar names", which would be the case if that were so.

[edit] I just went back and looked at the code and it is implemented correctly. I did a couple of tests, and they appear to have worked correctly also.

No, I didn't use batch mode but the normal movie-only mode. But I will do some more tests later on and let you know more specifics tomorrow.

Thanks for checking and generally for your awsome program :thanks:.

[chudm]

hi guys tried to do a rip and cant do it, says target is too small to continue, i wrote on the ini the force encode =1 option, but still had the same problem with the lastest 2 beta, any suggestion?

[jdobbs]

hi guys tried to do a rip and cant do it, says target is too small to continue, i wrote on the ini the force encode =1 option, but still had the same problem with the lastest 2 beta, any suggestion? It means that all the audio and subtitle selections you have made combined are already too big to fit on the output disc size you've chosen -- even without the video. The only way you can fix it is to either choose a bigger output size or select fewer audio/subs to keep. FORCE_ENCODE won't help becaus you can't reencode to a negative size... this is most likely seen when LPCM or lossless tracks exist and you're trying to output to BD-5/9.

[chudm]

It means that all the audio and subtitle selections you have made combined are already too big to fit on the output disc size you've chosen -- even without the video. The only way you can fix it is to either choose a bigger output size or select fewer audio/subs to keep. FORCE_ENCODE won't help becaus you can't reencode to a negative size... this is most likely seen when LPCM or lossless tracks exist and you're trying to output to BD-5/9.

im doing full backup to bd25

[Sharc]

I just tested it. 83ms is the correct value on my system, it synched up perfectly (after I did it right)... but in the release I did it ass-backwards. The "timeshift" parameter has to be (as you did it) on the mux, not the demux.

I've corrected it for the next release. Luckily there aren't very many discs out there that need it.
Looks like this would also solve the sync problem which I reported earlier for "DOUBT". It was actually the only disc I ever had a sync problem with :)

[Race Guy]

This bug is called "The Case Of The Missing Menu Text". But I don't think it's really a bug!

I've had 3 rebuilds that have ended up "stuck in an endless loop" on the top menu, because the "button text" is not there. I'm talking about the "Play", "Audio Select", "Special Features"....., etc "buttons".

On one of them (Elton 60), I'm able to use my player's "Go-To" button & then manually select the main title & then the disc takes off & plays fine. Even the pop up menu works to navigate chapter to chapter.

The other two, (Dave Matthews Radio City & Baraka) wont allow me to do that. On the latest one to fail, (Baraka) I did a little investigation With BD Info & found the culprit. The "interactive graphics stream (IGS)" is missing from the rebuilt menu video's remux.

Here's the Original:

Name_________Time In_______Length
00012.M2TS___0:00:00.000___0:08:45.525

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File___________PID___________Type___Codec
00012.M2TS___4113 (0x1011)___0xEA___VC-1
00012.M2TS___4352 (0x1100)___0x81___AC3
00012.M2TS___4353 (0x1101)___0x81___AC3
00012.M2TS___5120 (0x1400)___0x91___IGS

=======================================

Here's the Rebuild:

Name_________Time In_______Length
00012.M2TS___0:00:00.000___0:08:45.525

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File___________PID___________Type___Codec
00012.M2TS___4113 (0x1011)___0xEA___VC-1
00012.M2TS___4352 (0x1100)___0x81___AC3

=======================================

So then I reopened the project in BD-RB & discovered that it's not really a "bug"! I have my config setup to keep all English subs only. That IGS (for whatever reason???) had 3 "languages", 2 English & 1 Spanish. With my config, Spanish is eliminated which eliminated the WHOLE IGS!

Unfortunately, I dumped my workfiles, so for the helluvit, & rebuilt that menu vid again, this time with all the audio & all the sub languages. I then replaced those "corrected" m2ts & clpi files in the structure. I burned it to RE & it appears that I "saved" the project! The menu now comes up & functions & it appears all is good now!

Is what I did there really a "good" fix jdobbs?

I think the moral of this story is "keep ALL your subs"!!!

[chudm]

This bug is called "The Case Of The Missing Menu Text". But I don't think it's really a bug!

I've had 3 rebuilds that have ended up "stuck in an endless loop" on the top menu, because the "button text" is not there. I'm talking about the "Play", "Audio Select", "Special Features"....., etc "buttons".

On one of them (Elton 60), I'm able to use my player's "Go-To" button & then manually select the main title & then the disc takes off & plays fine. Even the pop up menu works to navigate chapter to chapter.

The other two, (Dave Matthews Radio City & Baraka) wont allow me to do that. On the latest one to fail, (Baraka) I did a little investigation With BD Info & found the culprit. The "interactive graphics stream (IGS)" is missing from the rebuilt menu video's remux.

Here's the Original:

Name_________Time In_______Length
00012.M2TS___0:00:00.000___0:08:45.525

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File___________PID___________Type___Codec
00012.M2TS___4113 (0x1011)___0xEA___VC-1
00012.M2TS___4352 (0x1100)___0x81___AC3
00012.M2TS___4353 (0x1101)___0x81___AC3
00012.M2TS___5120 (0x1400)___0x91___IGS

=======================================

Here's the Rebuild:

Name_________Time In_______Length
00012.M2TS___0:00:00.000___0:08:45.525

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File___________PID___________Type___Codec
00012.M2TS___4113 (0x1011)___0xEA___VC-1
00012.M2TS___4352 (0x1100)___0x81___AC3

=======================================

So then I reopened the project in BD-RB & discovered that it's not really a "bug"! I have my config setup to keep all English subs only. That IGS (for whatever reason???) had 3 "languages", 2 English & 1 Spanish. With my config, Spanish is eliminated which eliminated the WHOLE IGS!

Unfortunately, I dumped my workfiles, so for the helluvit, & rebuilt that menu vid again, this time with all the audio & all the sub languages. I then replaced those "corrected" m2ts & clpi files in the structure. I burned it to RE & it appears that I "saved" the project! The menu now comes up & functions & it appears all is good now!

Is what I did there really a "good" fix jdobbs?

I think the moral of this story is "keep ALL your subs"!!!

yeap had the same problems with foo fighters bluray, and this elton john bluray

[DK]

I'm having problems with Tomb Raider 1 Region B

==========================
[21:48:28] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
[21:48:28] BEGIN - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
-----------------------
[21:48:28] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
-----------------------
[08:06:27] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: LARA_CROFT_1
- Input BD size: 17,78 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:40:45.456]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[08:06:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:06:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [08:13:43] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 2)
- Analyzing 25,42 10,00 18,45 21,28 20,28 20,10 19,95 20,07 20,10 20,09 [20,09]
- [20:32:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [20:32:36] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 2)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00006.meta
- Can't open file: G:\DVD\TR1\WORKFILES\VID_00006.AVS.264
[20:32:45] - Failed to build structure, aborted

-----------------------

[22:32:23] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: LARA_CROFT_1
- Input BD size: 17,78 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:40:45.456]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[22:32:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:32:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [22:38:39] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 2)
- [11:11:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [11:11:51] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 2)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00006.meta
- Can't open file: G:\DVD\TR1\WORKFILES\VID_00006.AVS.264
[11:12:03] - Failed to build structure, aborted


VID_00006.AVS.264 is not present, only:

- VID_00006.AVS
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV.stats

The main movie is:
VID_00004.AVS.264 and this was created properly and completely together with the two sound streams.

Muxing video + audio streams woorked fine via tsmuxer, so the goal was achieved: a movie only backup but i have no idea why bd rebuilder got stuck with two different versions and slightly different settings:
1pass with version 0.28.03 and 2 passes with 0.29.04

[chudm]

about the problems with some musical blurays jdobbs commented once that its caused possibly by lpcm audio or something like that, hope he can fix it sometime :)

[Race Guy]

This bug is called "The Case Of The Missing Menu Text". But I don't think it's really a bug!

Now I know how jdobbs feels! Just when you think you have it all figured out, you DON'T.

I try to "repair" my Elton & Dave, thinking that all I'd have to do is "rebuild" & "substitute" the complete menu video file. I open the original Elton with BD-RB, but there's NO subtitles shown! BDInfo shows "Interactive Graphic Streams", so they must be there. I then go to the STREAMS folder & open the menu video m2ts with tsM. That gives an "Unsupported Format" warning that says "Some Tracks Not Recognized.", you click OK and tsM shows only video & audio streams "available", NO SUBTITLES!

So, my uneducated guess is, when that menu video gets demuxed & recoded, the IGS gets "lost" ('cause it can't be found) & it doesn't make it to the rebuild.

The only "easy fix" I can see is to set the "don't recode" limit bigger than the menu vids. This one happens to be 550MB. BUT, you wont know if you have a problem until you've done the first rebuild......., unless jdobbs can see a workaround for the "hidden subs"!

============================

I just replaced the first, rebuilt video menu on Elton (there's 7 total) with the original .m2ts & the .clpi & now that menu functions which allows you to hit "Play" & start the disc! BUT, if you hit "song selections" on that menu, it kicks you to another menu video that doesn't have subs, so you'd be stuck there.

There you go! It's got nothing to do with LPCM, it's "missing IGS".

[Sn8kbordin]

Trying to back up Walk Hard in Movie Only mode to DL-DVD. I am getting this error:

-----------------------
[14:44:47] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: WALK_HARD_DISC1_NA_P2
- Input BD size: 33.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:00:19.628]
- Target BD size: 8.10 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[14:44:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:44:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file I:\BD\4\WORKFILES\00000+00042+00002+00043+00004+00044+00006+00045+00008+00046+00010+00047+00012+00048+00014+00049+00016+00050+00018+00051+00020+00052+00022+00053+00024+00054+00026+00055+00028+00056+00030+00057+00032+00058+00034+00059+00036+00060+00038+00061+00040+00062.track_4352.ac3
[14:44:49] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I think the file name of that AC3 file is too long.

Q: What does Verbose status reporting do?

[GaPony]

WTF!!!

I did this movie (Walk Hard) recently to BD9 (DL DVD) with no problem. I used the Movie Only mode.

Verbose reporting gives a line by line activity report in the log. I find it very useful in letting me know whats going on.

[Sn8kbordin]

WTF!!!

I did this movie (Walk Hard) recently to BD9 (DL DVD) with no problem. I used the Movie Only mode.

Verbose reporting gives a line by line activity report in the log. I find it very useful in letting me know whats going on.

Thanks.
Did you do 90min or 2 hour extended version?

I'm trying to do 2 hour extended version.

[jdobbs]

I'm having problems with Tomb Raider 1 Region B



VID_00006.AVS.264 is not present, only:

- VID_00006.AVS
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV.stats

The main movie is:
VID_00004.AVS.264 and this was created properly and completely together with the two sound streams.

Muxing video + audio streams woorked fine via tsmuxer, so the goal was achieved: a movie only backup but i have no idea why bd rebuilder got stuck with two different versions and slightly different settings:
1pass with version 0.28.03 and 2 passes with 0.29.04 Can you post the settings from the INI. The value of MKV_INTERMEDIATE determines whether .264 or .MKV is used. If you start, stop, change the setting, and resume it could cause this kind of issue.

[writersblock29]

@Race Guy

It's funny that you mention the sub-less menus... when I did my copy of Braveheart, it behaved the same. Since I'm using PowerDVD9 on my encoding system--and I'm accoustomed to stupid bugs in that program--I burned it anyway. Playing it back on my HTPC (which uses TotalMedia Theatre 3), the options show up and work just fine. In my case, the subs weren't missing... but I thought it was pretty strange hearing someone report that their menu buttons were gone.

In PowerDVD, it was only the subs that were gone. If I stabbed around with my arrow keys, I could get the movie to play, call up a setup menu (which, oddly enough, had the text for the options), or play the timeline feature. So the buttons themselves were there, hidden. And for TotalMedia to play it back flawlessly, the subs had to have been physically present on the project... I guess just not in the manner PowerDVD expected. The source disk works fine on either player, as does the rip (verified by using an external hard drive). Strange.

[chudm]

@Race Guy

It's funny that you mention the sub-less menus... when I did my copy of Braveheart, it behaved the same. Since I'm using PowerDVD9 on my encoding system--and I'm accoustomed to stupid bugs in that program--I burned it anyway. Playing it back on my HTPC (which uses TotalMedia Theatre 3), the options show up and work just fine. In my case, the subs weren't missing... but I thought it was pretty strange hearing someone report that their menu buttons were gone.

In PowerDVD, it was only the subs that were gone. If I stabbed around with my arrow keys, I could get the movie to play, call up a setup menu (which, oddly enough, had the text for the options), or play the timeline feature. So the buttons themselves were there, hidden. And for TotalMedia to play it back flawlessly, the subs had to have been physically present on the project... I guess just not in the manner PowerDVD expected. The source disk works fine on either player, as does the rip (verified by using an external hard drive). Strange.

at least foo fighters and elton john bluray didnt worked on the ps3, no text on the menu, and cant select anything, on totalmedia theater 3 worked ok

[writersblock29]

@Chudm

Wow! So pretty much the same behavior I got out of PDVD9, with a PS3? That's something to raise an eyebrow at--I figured it was just another PDVD quirk. I wonder how set top boxes are faring.

[chudm]

@Chudm

Wow! So pretty much the same behavior I got out of PDVD9, with a PS3? That's something to raise an eyebrow at--I figured it was just another PDVD quirk. I wonder how set top boxes are faring.

yeah man, in fact, the foo fighters bluray was the 1st backup i made! and burnt it 3 times, on bd-r and never worked! i thought i was doing something wrong, cause always had the same behaviour on the ps3 but was working ok on TMT3, so i give it a try to batman and worked perfect on the ps3! as all my movies! but those blurays (foo fighters and elthon john) only worked on TMT3 but were missing the text on the menu when were played on the ps3

[DK]

Can you post the settings from the INI. The value of MKV_INTERMEDIATE determines whether .264 or .MKV is used. If you start, stop, change the setting, and resume it could cause this kind of issue.

1.
i did NOT interrupt the process but tried to restart/resume it, when i saw it failed.

after realizing that resuming failed just like the prvious run i started from scratch and instead of using 1 pass (resulted in 1gb oversized main movie) i used normal two passes

2.
here is an INI file content i found refering to tomb raider and then there is the INF file:

Batchitem.INI
LARA_CROFT_1, Movie-Only, BD-9, High Quality
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
CRF_ENCODING=1
TARGET_SIZE=7910
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ONEPASS_ENCODING=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\_BD\LARA CROFT 1\
WORKING_PATH=G:\DVD\TR1\


Lara_Croft_INF
[Status]
LABEL=LARA_CROFT_1
VERSION=v0.29.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=19090040832
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=19090040832
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.434479749571654
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
COMPLETED=1
[00004]
AUDIO=11
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=8294142729
RATE=9189
NSIZE=7279736832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
M2TS_TARGET=93431

[Roxx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capsbackup
Correct. I inserted/edited BD-RB's meta file for that m2ts with "timeshift=250ms" in the appropriate location within that meta file.
However, just editing and saving this meta file inside the Workfiles folder was not working. Upon rebuild, BD-RB would change/correct my edits to back to the original meta. I had to run that edited meta from the command line, and then substitute this new m2ts/clpi into the BD-RB Workfiles folder for a new rebuild. <cut>

I've corrected it for the next release. Luckily there aren't very many discs out there that need it.

Hi. Same problem (?) here with Dexter Season 2. (pic) (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/dexterx.jpg/)
BD_RB did not backup the disc correctly with v0.29.04, high speed bd25.
But will Capsbackup option work in v0.29.04? (editing and saving the meta file inside the Workfiles folder)
I don't know how to run it from a command line...:confused:

First problem for me with bd_rb. Great program. Thanks for your time & effort. Much appreciated.

[jdobbs]

I re-installed latest ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid, latest Haali app and Avisynth_257 and i kee getting the same error. I have used this app from the beginning and i've never had problems until this version of BD Rebuilder. Any suggestions? I would really appreciate the help. Thanks. This has to be something peculiar about this disc. Nothing has changed related to that routine in quite some time.

Normally that error occurs when there is some inconsistency between video & audio timing ("no sync"). So BD-RB looks for it, and attempts to demux the video and audio independently. It looks like in your case that demuxing the video alone still causes the error. That's why the error is logged twice.

Is there secondary video on that M2TS?

[jdobbs]

im doing full backup to bd25 Do a demux with TSMUXER and then add up all the audio and sub files... see what they come to.

[jdobbs]

I'm having problems with Tomb Raider 1 Region B



VID_00006.AVS.264 is not present, only:

- VID_00006.AVS
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV
- VID_00006.AVS.MKV.stats

The main movie is:
VID_00004.AVS.264 and this was created properly and completely together with the two sound streams.

Muxing video + audio streams woorked fine via tsmuxer, so the goal was achieved: a movie only backup but i have no idea why bd rebuilder got stuck with two different versions and slightly different settings:
1pass with version 0.28.03 and 2 passes with 0.29.04 You say the "Main Movie" is... but you're doing a movie-only encode... so if VID_00006.AVS isn't part of the main-movie is shouldn't be included.

I'll look at this. It might be that there is a small intro or exit M2TS associated with the main-movie that is field-based interlaced (so it gets converted for encoding). Does 00006 show up on the streams list with "**" next to its framerate?

[Kakashi Sensei]

Sorry if this was covered I tried search and most of the PiP stuff was for BD9/5. I just did a backup of Forgetting Sarah Marshall Full Disc BD25. Set it to encode the secondary tracks - Was that the wrong settings or does the Universal U-Control not work with the backup? Just wondering b/c when I tried to set U-Control PiP the audio for the movie goes low and nothing happens.

Here are the INI settings:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1


Thanks guys!

[jdobbs]

Sorry if this was covered I tried search and most of the PiP stuff was for BD9/5. I just did a backup of Forgetting Sarah Marshall Full Disc BD25. Set it to encode the secondary tracks - Was that the wrong settings or does the Universal U-Control not work with the backup? Just wondering b/c when I tried to set U-Control PiP the audio for the movie goes low and nothing happens.

Here are the INI settings:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1


Thanks guys! If it is DTS secondary audio there is still no way to include it, because TSMUXER won't process it. So it's just "left out" for now.

[DK]

You say the "Main Movie" is... but you're doing a movie-only encode... so if VID_00006.AVS isn't part of the main-movie is shouldn't be included.

I'll look at this. It might be that there is a small intro or exit M2TS associated with the main-movie that is field-based interlaced (so it gets converted for encoding). Does 00006 show up on the streams list with "**" next to its framerate?

yes, i was doing movie only

will check TR1 in BD Rebuilder later on - have a conversion running right now

i had a look at the original files and 00006 is a 4 sec m2ts file with nothing but black content and 216kb in size

[Kakashi Sensei]

If it is DTS secondary audio there is still no way to include it, because TSMUXER won't process it. So it's just "left out" for now.

I'll have to double check that b/c i think its AC3, but even if thats the case shouldn't the video play?

I'll re rip the movie and double check, thanks Jdobbs.

[jdobbs]

yes, i was doing movie only

will check TR1 in BD Rebuilder later on - have a conversion running right now

i had a look at the original files and 00006 is a 4 sec m2ts file with nothing but black content and 216kb in size It's not unusual to see something like that to be used as a chapter point for "end of movie".

[jdobbs]

I'll have to double check that b/c i think its AC3, but even if thats the case shouldn't the video play?

I'll re rip the movie and double check, thanks Jdobbs. I must have misunderstood. I though all that happened was a lowering of the volume on the primary audio track.

[Kakashi Sensei]

I must have misunderstood. I though all that happened was a lowering of the volume on the primary audio track.
Sorry I guess I didn't give all the info either. What happens is the volume lowers, i have the U Control icon with PiP and Visual Commentary. When i select either the volume lowers and no PiP video is displayed. I'll double check with the retail later tonight and compare to be sure.
This is a Universal release.

[Sn8kbordin]

Trying to back up Walk Hard in Movie Only mode to DL-DVD. I am getting this error:

-----------------------
[14:44:47] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: WALK_HARD_DISC1_NA_P2
- Input BD size: 33.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:00:19.628]
- Target BD size: 8.10 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[14:44:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:44:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file I:\BD\4\WORKFILES\00000+00042+00002+00043+00004+00044+00006+00045+00008+00046+00010+00047+00012+00048+00014+00049+00016+00050+00018+00051+00020+00052+00022+00053+00024+00054+00026+00055+00028+00056+00030+00057+00032+00058+00034+00059+00036+00060+00038+00061+00040+00062.track_4352.ac3
[14:44:49] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I think the file name of that AC3 file is too long.

Q: What does Verbose status reporting do?

BTW, I'm using Vista 64bit.

[GaPony]

Is it possible you lack enough free space on the HDD to create the workfiles folder... or that the path is wrong?

[DK]

Does 00006 show up on the streams list with "**" next to its framerate?

No - c.f. attached screenshot

+++++

there is one other thing i realized only recently and which i cannot properly describe so i think captured images may help a bit:

i have attached two images from DIE HARD 2

the ENCODED material shows something like a 1pixel (or so) white line at the top and the bottom whenever the neighboring areas is bright as well - this cannot be seen when the picture is dark/black

the original material is not affected - see last attached picture

this happened to the movie only version of tomb raider also but not other titles which were also done with the same bd rb version as of lately (fast and furious 4)

[Sn8kbordin]

Is it possible you lack enough free space on the HDD to create the workfiles folder... or that the path is wrong?

I checked for that. There was about 50GB of free space and I selected the paths right before starting the project.

That file name alone is 262 characters long and I think you are allowed 255 characters WITH the paths.

[jdobbs]

No - c.f. attached screenshot

+++++

there is one other thing i realized only recently and which i cannot properly describe so i think captured images may help a bit:

i have attached two images from DIE HARD 2

the ENCODED material shows something like a 1pixel (or so) white line at the top and the bottom whenever the neighboring areas is bright as well - this cannot be seen when the picture is dark/black

the original material is not affected - see last attached picture

this happened to the movie only version of tomb raider also but not other titles which were also done with the same bd rb version as of lately (fast and furious 4) I don't think that wouldn't have anything to do with BD-RB -- it may be a result of the codec (most likely) or possibly X264..

[Capsbackup]

I must have misunderstood. I though all that happened was a lowering of the volume on the primary audio track.

Sorry I guess I didn't give all the info either. What happens is the volume lowers, i have the U Control icon with PiP and Visual Commentary. When i select either the volume lowers and no PiP video is displayed. I'll double check with the retail later tonight and compare to be sure.
This is a Universal release.

This could be normal, since most, if not all discs with U Control use DTS Express secondary audio, and the main audio track's volume would lower when the secondary audio track is played. But since there would not be any secondary audio, and the main audio track does not know this, it lowers for the secondary audio to be heard.
Probably not a bug, just working as it should because it's expecting secondary audio. :confused:

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Trying a full movie backup to BD-25 of Pirates of the Caribbean 3, At World's End. I notice there is a -12ms audio delay for the three AC3 audio tracks, but a 0ms delay for the LPCM track. Though this delay amount would probably not be noticeable, there appears to be a problem with tsMuxeR remuxing a negative audio delay.( Or at least a -12ms delay for this disc)
I tried a remux from the command line and from the GUI, and both times tsMuxeR puts a 20ms delay instead of a -12ms delay.
Just wanted to bring this to your attention, and maybe you can run your own test on negative delays on remux, since this could affect your implementing audio delay corrections. :)

[ChBrig]

I got a problem with a movie codec VC-1: impossible to encode it with BD Rebuilder; error message as reencoding failed, error X.264.
I don't understand; I have WMV 11 installed on my computer and VC-1 codec is desabled in ffdshow.
What is wrong?

[Kakashi Sensei]

This could be normal, since most, if not all discs with U Control use DTS Express secondary audio, and the main audio track's volume would lower when the secondary audio track is played. But since there would not be any secondary audio, and the main audio track does not know this, it lowers for the secondary audio to be heard.
Probably not a bug, just working as it should because it's expecting secondary audio. :confused:

I figured as much. I just need to double check the disk. I should have looked at the audio type first. Other PiP disks played the Video PiP with no audio thats why i was asking as this one there is no video playing as well.

Thanks for the insight! :)

[setarip_old]

@ChBrig

Hi!I got a problem with a movie codec VC-1: impossible to encode it with BD Rebuilder; error message as reencoding failed, error X.264.What is the title and region of your original BluRay disc?

[Furiousflea]

I got a problem with a movie codec VC-1: impossible to encode it with BD Rebuilder; error message as reencoding failed, error X.264.
I don't understand; I have WMV 11 installed on my computer and VC-1 codec is desabled in ffdshow.
What is wrong?

Windows 7 by any chance?

If so, read the thread. This is getting repetative.

[jdobbs]

Also, if it is Windows 7, please note this statement in the first post of this thread:

BD Rebuilder has NOT BEEN MODIFIED/TESTED FOR USE ON WINDOWS 7. If you run into issues with Windows 7, please don't post bug reports. It will be updated, but not until the final version of Windows 7 is released in October 2009.

Frankly this VC-1 under Windows 7 discussion is getting annoying and has taken up way too much space in this thread (over and over and over and over). There is a solution, and it has been posted in this thread and other threads at least 20 times.

[Kakashi Sensei]

@Jdobbs

Not sure if the PiP is a bug with Forgetting Sarah Marsharll - There are 2 Secondary Audio and 2 Secondary Video, the audio is AC3+ not DTS Express.

There is no PiP audio or video when i use the U Control.

If you need more info please let me know.

[ChBrig]

Also, if it is Windows 7, please note this statement in the first post of this thread:



Frankly this VC-1 under Windows 7 discussion is getting annoying and has taken up way too much space in this thread (over and over and over and over). There is a solution, and it has been posted in this thread and other threads at least 20 times.

Excuse me but I don't use Windows 7 but Windows XP; I am leaving in Belgium and some users of your BD REbuilder have the same problem with codec VC-1 and try to find a solution. That is why I have posted on this forum.
Thank you for your support:thanks:

[ChBrig]

@ChBrig

Hi!What is the title and region of your original BluRay disc?

Region=Europe and the title is 'De l'ombre à la lumière' with Russel Crowne ('Cinderalla Man').
Sorry but I am leaving in Belgium

[PurpleMan]

jdobbs:

regarding the timeshift issue, I was wondering if other than the m2ts file itself, is there any other reference to the audio delay on the blu-ray disc structure? (maybe in the playlist? clipinf? something?)

Or the player knows how to properly play the file just by looking at the m2ts?

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs:

regarding the timeshift issue, I was wondering if other than the m2ts file itself, is there any other reference to the audio delay on the blu-ray disc structure? (maybe in the playlist? clipinf? something?)

Or the player knows how to properly play the file just by looking at the m2ts?

Thanks. Yes. The player would look at the M2TS for timing information. There wouldn't be any information to that level of detail in the CLPI or MPLS. They mainly link to points of entry in the M2TS (like FF/REW and chapter points).

[jdobbs]

Excuse me but I don't use Windows 7 but Windows XP; I am leaving in Belgium and some users of your BD REbuilder have the same problem with codec VC-1 and try to find a solution. That is why I have posted on this forum.
Thank you for your support:thanks: The only other possibility is if you (or others) have installed "codec packs" that reset the defaults for playback... that has been a consistent problem as well.

[setarip_old]

@ChBrigI have WMV 11 installed on my computer and VC-1 codec is desabled in ffdshow.Have you tried the other two VC-1 choices in "FFDShow"?

[jdobbs]

Also, if it is Windows 7, please note this statement in the first post of this thread:



Frankly this VC-1 under Windows 7 discussion is getting annoying and has taken up way too much space in this thread (over and over and over and over). There is a solution, and it has been posted in this thread and other threads at least 20 times.Ok, thanks.

[ChBrig]

@ChBrigHave you tried the other two VC-1 choices in "FFDShow"?

I am using FFDSHOW rev 2661 (as requested by Jdobbs on page 1) and VC-1 is disabled as also requested by Jdobbs. The two other choices I have are: libavcodec and wmv9.
So do you mean I must try libavcodec or wmv9 (even wmv11 is installed on my laptop)?

To Jdobbs: I don't have any "codec packs" installed; What I have is: FFDshow rev 2661, Matroska Splitter and Avisynth 2.57

[stackner]

im running windows 7 rtm 64 bit

i have been using bd rebuilder fine although today i go to use it and everytime i goto browse for a source i can only see

desktop and a folder names the same as my windows account of which i can browse but it is not listing my hdd's or optical drives......

my drives show in windows explorer and all other programs.

please help.

[jdobbs]

im running windows 7 rtm 64 bit

i have been using bd rebuilder fine although today i go to use it and everytime i goto browse for a source i can only see

desktop and a folder names the same as my windows account of which i can browse but it is not listing my hdd's or optical drives......

my drives show in windows explorer and all other programs.

please help. Hmm... it's gotta' be a Windows 7 bug -- because I'm simply calling the "browse" routine of the operating system.

[micha019]

Hello,

I'm trying to reencode a Movie with DTS-HD to a BD9.
My problem is that BD-Rebuilder always reencodes DTS-HD to AC3.
I activated the option: Do no convert DTS to AC3.
When I look into the workfiles directory it also extracted the core from the DTS-HD Track, but after reencoding is done it always makes an AC3 Audio.
I want a BD9 with DTS Core not with AC3, why doesn't it work?
Bd-Rebuilder has no problem with the secondary audio track in the M2ts which is only DTS (NOT HD). This track will not be reencoded.
I'm using the latest version.

An other problem is that the BD9 is always undersized, only 7,45GB. Which means ~0,5gb is is free on my DVD9 Media.

[stackner]

Hmm... it's gotta' be a Windows 7 bug -- because I'm simply calling the "browse" routine of the operating system.

thats what im guessing. just strange that everything else that browse for files is working fine.

[jdobbs]

I am using FFDSHOW rev 2661 (as requested by Jdobbs on page 1) and VC-1 is disabled as also requested by Jdobbs. The two other choices I have are: libavcodec and wmv9.
So do you mean I must try libavcodec or wmv9 (even wmv11 is installed on my laptop)?

To Jdobbs: I don't have any "codec packs" installed; What I have is: FFDshow rev 2661, Matroska Splitter and Avisynth 2.57 Try opening the associated AVS file (in the working directory) with either Media Player Classic or Windows Media Player. If there is a codec error, it should be displayed in the viewer.

[ChBrig]

Try opening the associated AVS file (in the working directory) with either Media Player Classic or Windows Media Player. If there is a codec error, it should be displayed in the viewer.

Sorry, what do you mean by "associated AVS file (in the working directory)"? What is that?

[Kakashi Sensei]

Hello,

I'm trying to reencode a Movie with DTS-HD to a BD9.
My problem is that BD-Rebuilder always reencodes DTS-HD to AC3.
I activated the option: Do no convert DTS to AC3.
When I look into the workfiles directory it also extracted the core from the DTS-HD Track, but after reencoding is done it always makes an AC3 Audio.
I want a BD9 with DTS Core not with AC3, why doesn't it work?
Bd-Rebuilder has no problem with the secondary audio track in the M2ts which is only DTS (NOT HD). This track will not be reencoded.
I'm using the latest version.

An other problem is that the BD9 is always undersized, only 7,45GB. Which means ~0,5gb is is free on my DVD9 Media.
Now I'm only guessing b/c i dont know what movie your re-encoding but HD audio is generally pretty big, so BD Rebuilder is probably re-encoding it b/c there would be no room on the BD9 for the video if it kept the DTS-HD MA.

[setarip_old]

@ChBrigThe two other choices I have are: libavcodec and wmv9.
So do you mean I must try libavcodec or wmv9Yes, that's what I was suggesting you try...

[setarip_old]

@stackner

Hi!i can only see desktop and a folder namesSilly/Obvious question, perhaps but, is one of the "desktop items" labelled "My Computer" or similar?

[jdobbs]

Sorry, what do you mean by "associated AVS file (in the working directory)"? What is that? Look at the name of the M2TS where the encode failed. It's a 5 digit number like "00017" or "00001". In the working directory there will be a file called (for example) "VID_00017.AVS" that matches the digits.

Right click on that file and select "Open With..." -- then choose "Media Player Classic" (if you have it installed on your computer) or "Windows Media Player".

If an error occurs as it tries to play the file, it will be displayed in the resulting window. The reason you do this is because pretty much the same playback sequence occurs when the file is frame-served (via DirectShow) to X264 for encoding.

[ChBrig]

Look at the name of the M2TS where the encode failed. It's a 5 digit number like "00017" or "00001". In the working directory there will be a file called (for example) "VID_00017.AVS" that matches the digits.

Right click on that file and select "Open With..." -- then choose "Media Player Classic" (if you have it installed on your computer) or "Windows Media Player".

If an error occurs as it tries to play the file, it will be displayed in the resulting window. The reason you do this is because pretty much the same playback sequence occurs when the file is frame-served (via DirectShow) to X264 for encoding.

Ok I will try.
Thank you

[ChBrig]

@ChBrigYes, that's what I was suggesting you try...

Ok I will try

Thank you

[stackner]

@stackner

Hi!Silly/Obvious question, perhaps but, is one of the "desktop items" labelled "My Computer" or similar?

no i already checked that but thanks for the idea.

looks like maybe a windows reinstall.

[Denada]

Hi all, been using bd rebuilder for some time now.. really cool stuff!

Only thing is, I am trying to get the most of a bdr disc filled with movie, so I have been experimenting a bit with the custom target size, but this still seems to be off most of the time. For instance, I have configured it on 24500 megabytes now, but the first disc gives me 19,5 gb output and the second one comes close to 21,5 gb.. I have tried a disc with the default 23500 and that gave me a 24 gb output disc structure.
btw, tried this on the last couple of version, the last one being the 2904 version..

Is there any way to get this more accurate, or is this still a work in progress?

Thanks jdobbs for a great program with great support!:thanks:

[dedwin99]

BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2702(14:43:57) Build Tree List ()35602
- [14:54:19] BuildTreeList() 35602 2702
- [14:54:41] BuildTreeList() 35602 2702
- [14:54:48] BuildTreeList() 35602 2702
- [14:55:17] BuildTreeList() 35602 2702
- [14:55:57] BuildTreeList() 35602 2702
- [14:55:59] BuildTreeList() 35602 2702
-----------------------
[14:56:28] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: XMEN_WOLVERINE
- Input BD size: 34.99 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:47:21.393]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
[14:56:29] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:56:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [15:14:32] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 2)
- [17:35:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [18:01:52] Reencoding: VID_00074 (2 of 2)
[22:13:07]PHASE ONE complete
[22:13:07]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:13:07] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- File name J:\WORKING\WORKFILES\00074.M2TS already exists.
[22:13:07] - Failed to REBUILD

[jefrey]

why BD Rebuilder always undersize the final output, for about 2 gig?
I've done monster Inc EUR, The International and Watchmen, and the final size was always 21.3gb instead of 23,45 gb :(

[Denada]

why BD Rebuilder always undersize the final output, for about 2 gig?
I've done monster Inc EUR, The International and Watchmen, and the final size was always 21.3gb instead of 23,45 gb :(

Good thing is, you always getting the same output size, you could give a custom size of 24,5gb a try for instance.. for some reason my output never seems to be the same, depending on the movie I use for input..

[turbojet]

Jdobbs: in order to get same as source framerate for 23.976 you need AssumeFPS(24000,1001) in avs. For 29.97 the avisynth needs AssumeFPS(30000,1001). 24, 25, 30 fps aren't affected by the directshowsource bug. x264 --fps has no effect when using avisynth input, its used to set framerate of raw input.

BDSup2Sub is a solution to the resize to 720p crashing tsmuxer issue.

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs: in order to get same as source framerate for 23.976 you need AssumeFPS(24000,1001) in avs. For 29.97 the avisynth needs AssumeFPS(30000,1001). 24, 25, 30 fps aren't affected by the directshowsource bug. x264 --fps has no effect when using avisynth input, its used to set framerate of raw input.

BDSup2Sub is a solution to the resize to 720p crashing tsmuxer issue.Thanks. I'll add AssumeFPS(). I'll have to check out BDSup2Sup, I've never tried it.

[Denada]

Good thing is, you always getting the same output size, you could give a custom size of 24,5gb a try for instance.. for some reason my output never seems to be the same, depending on the movie I use for input..


So now I tried The Bourne Supremacy, and first attempt is the default custom image size, and after that I tried the same movie again only now with a custom size of 25,5 Gb, should be too large to burn to disc..

Funny thing is, they only differ about 2 megabytes in size, biggerst one being the default custom image size..

[EDUDE]

Hello everyone.
I have the video card graphic
ATI RADEON 3300 onboard .. can be configured for H.264 compression
is made by the board
wonder from my ignorance!

[skylab1]

I am getting a strange error I never see before,

SPS picture order 127 not supported

This come out of wolverine BD,

22:30:54] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: XMEN_WOLVERINE
- Input BD size: 22.04 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:47:21.393]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[22:30:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:30:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- SPS picture order 127 not supported.
[22:44:37] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

txMuxerGUI is also getting the same error

Anyone know what this error is and how to fix the problem?

Thanks

[Sharc]

@jdobbs:
I had another case where the resizing to 720p did not take effect, although the resizing has been selected.
I reported this in an earlier post and speculated if this might be related to PiP. Did you have a chance to check the code?

[jdobbs]

I did, and I can't find any way that it could happen. Are you positive it just wasn't a mistake in the settings?

There is a possibility of it occurring if there is secondary video and the video was out of order in the CLPI file, but I've never seen that except possibly in a privately authored source (e.g. TSMUXER). Can you give me an example source?

[Sharc]

I did, and I can't find any way that it could happen. Are you positive it just wasn't a mistake in the settings?
Yes, positive - as much as I can.....
Here the log which confirms the setting:
[00:43:33] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: CHANGELING
- Input BD size: 33.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:21:54.505]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled

I did however neither find a resize command in temp.avs nor in the vid_xxxx.avs

[jdobbs]

Yes, positive - as much as I can.....
Here the log which confirms the setting:
[00:43:33] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: CHANGELING
- Input BD size: 33.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:21:54.505]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled

I did however neither find a resize command in temp.avs nor in the vid_xxxx.avs I've put code in to swap positions if the secondary video is listed before the primary in the CLPI. I have CHANGELING (but interestingly haven't watched it yet) -- I'm going to check it out and see if this is the case in that disc.

[Edit] Nope. I just checked out CHANGELING (Region A) and the video is in the correct order. I'll run a movie-only encode with resizing one and see what I get.

[DK]

c.f. this original post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1325812#post1325812)

I don't think that wouldn't have anything to do with BD-RB -- it may be a result of the codec (most likely) or possibly X264..

you were right

the problem was neither bd-rb nor x264 BUT the fact that i had (for testing pruposes in video playback a while ago) set ffdshow's config to SHARPEN (using asharpen)

this setting caused the white pixels at the top and bottom

the strange thing and one reason i did not realize this phenomenon before is the fact that those white pixel only occured rather "randomly" - some conversion showed them, others did NOT

i have attached two screenshots: one WITH asharpen, the second w/out

[Sharc]

I've put code in to swap positions if the secondary video is listed before the primary in the CLPI. I have CHANGELING (but interestingly haven't watched it yet) -- I'm going to check it out and see if this is the case in that disc.

[Edit] Nope. I just checked out CHANGELING (Region A) and the video is in the correct order. I'll run a movie-only encode with resizing one and see what I get.
I just noticed that I have 2 entries for resize in the config file, namely:
RESIZE=0
RESIZE_1080=1
Could one of these be a leftover from an earlier version?

[Capsbackup]

I am getting a strange error I never see before,

SPS picture order 127 not supported

This come out of wolverine BD,

22:30:54] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: XMEN_WOLVERINE
- Input BD size: 22.04 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:47:21.393]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[22:30:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:30:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- SPS picture order 127 not supported.
[22:44:37] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

txMuxerGUI is also getting the same error

Anyone know what this error is and how to fix the problem?

Thanks

I had no trouble with a movie only and full backup of this Region A version of this disc.
You did not report what OS you are using.
Since tsMuxeR gets the same error, it is a set-up problem.
Try reinstalling ffdshow, Matroska, avisynth and WMP11.
Set up ffdshow properly, and try again.

[jdobbs]

I just noticed that I have 2 entries for resize in the config file, namely:
RESIZE=0
RESIZE_1080=1
Could one of these be a leftover from an earlier version? Yes. RESIZE doesn't do anything right now.

I tested CHANGELING and had the same result as you. I traced it down and found out what was causing it to not resize. I've fixed it for the next release.

Interestingly, it may also have provided a clue as to why some of the UNIVERSAL titles are having audio issues on Sony players (BD-5/9 only) when there is PiP... I'm researching it.

[Capsbackup]

I just noticed that I have 2 entries for resize in the config file, namely:
RESIZE=0
RESIZE_1080=1
Could one of these be a leftover from an earlier version?

This is a good reason to delete the file and start over with a newly created one with BD-RB. Clean/fresh start after testing features can avoid this. :)

[Sharc]

That's what I normally do. But then I start to copy back all my previous personal settings - because I want to keep them.....

[skylab1]

I had no trouble with a movie only and full backup of this Region A version of this disc.
You did not report what OS you are using.
Since tsMuxeR gets the same error, it is a set-up problem.
Try reinstalling ffdshow, Matroska, avisynth and WMP11.
Set up ffdshow properly, and try again.

I don't see how this would be installation issue, I've been using the BD rebuilder for a long time and I just finish backup race to witch mountain, Indiana jone 4, and Disney Earth with no problem.
Anyone else having this problem with wolverine?
OS is Vista.

[jdobbs]

I just did Wolverine a couple of days ago. It worked flawlessly. Could it be a bad rip?

[nelly09]

can anyone tell me what the problem is here?

-----------------------
[21:05:21] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: BLOW
- Input BD size: 24.14 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:03:26.440]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[21:05:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:05:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:15:46] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:18:51] - Failed video encode, aborted


I am using windows 7 beta but i have rebuilt many several movies successfully, also if anyone could tell why there is a "failed to retrieve audio" error, any help would be great, thanks!

[skylab1]

I just did Wolverine a couple of days ago. It worked flawlessly. Could it be a bad rip?

Really! Well, I ripped it twice and both time it comes up with the same error. (the error only happen in BD rebuilder, the acutal
ripping part work fine with Anydvd HD). I am at lost here.

BTW, what does the error mean?

[setarip_old]

@skylab1

Hi!

What version of "AnyDVDHD" did you use?

I ask because according to postings at the SlySoft forum, a proper rip requires the use of v.6.5.8.1 beta...

[astraub]

Hi,

I have tried now multiple times to re-encode "Australia" (region B) and always failed with the error:

-----------------------
[00:22:35] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: AUSTRALIA
- Input BD size: 30,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:45:28.335]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[00:22:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:22:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00052]
- [01:06:05] Reencoding: VID_00052 (1 of 4)
- [01:06:05] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 2.527 frames
- Bitrate: 16.867 Kbs
- [01:06:05] Reencoding: VID_00052, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:06:06] Reencoding: VID_00052, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:09:39] Video Encode complete
- [01:09:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:21:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:22:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [02:47:49] Reencoding: VID_00045 (2 of 4)
- [02:47:49] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 223.403 frames
- Bitrate: 17.338 Kbs
- [02:47:49] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:47:50] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:46:20] Video Encode complete
- [08:46:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:52:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00053]
- [09:52:52] Reencoding: VID_00053 (3 of 4)
- [09:52:52] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 1.036 frames
- Bitrate: 14.473 Kbs
- [09:52:52] Reencoding: VID_00053, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:52:52] Reencoding: VID_00053, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:54:13] Video Encode complete
- [09:54:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:54:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
- [09:59:21] Reencoding: VID_00051 (4 of 4)
- [09:59:21] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 11.076 frames
- Bitrate: 17.274 Kbs
- [09:59:21] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:59:22] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:14:15] Video Encode complete
- [10:14:15] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:17:34]PHASE ONE complete
[10:17:34]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:17:34] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
-
[11:09:05] - Failed to REBUILD


The used meta files looks like this:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:05:03.886;00:06:08.785;00:16:17.893;00:22:30.557;00:26:59.117;00:32:40.333;00:41:30.613;00:52:23.014;00:57:29.320;01:00:07.520;01:09:48.893;01:14:57.409;01:18:07.099;01:29:32.450;01:38:19.226;01:44:46.655;01:47:32.320;01:54:33.074;01:56:05.583;02:03:37.660;02:08:31.370;02:14:35.108;02:23:16.838;02:33:59.563;02:37:46.373;02:45:28.084 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00052.M2TS"+"E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00045.M2TS"+"E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00053.M2TS"+"E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00051.M2TS", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
A_AC3, "E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\AUD_00052_4354.AC3", lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00052.track_4610.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=deu


I have now three questions:

- obviously the remux did not work - any idea why?
- I was using the "do not convert DTS to AC3" option. Why did it still convert the audio?
- the language code seems to be set to "deu" - shouldn't this be "ger" ?

Greetings and thanks for yout effort!

[DK]

I have now three questions:

- obviously the remux did not work - any idea why?
- I was using the "do not convert DTS to AC3" option. Why did it still convert the audio?
- the language code seems to be set to "deu" - shouldn't this be "ger" ?



- mux manually with tsmuxer.
audio, video + sups seems present and the chapter points are already mentioned above in the mux command line

- DID it convert an audio stream?

- there is nothing wrong with "deu" as language code

[astraub]

Hi,

yes, it actually did convert the DTS track to AC3 and also tried to mux the resultant .ac3 file into the final result. You can see this by looking at the time schedule - it took 12mins to convert the audio and it is trying to add in:

A_AC3, "E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\AUD_00052_4354.AC3", lang=deu

This is not what I expected. I wanted to have the original DTS track.

I did manage to manually mux the files (using the DTS track), but I would still like to know, why the script initiated mux failed.

[astraub]

I have one more question:

would it be possible to add a selection dialog to select the playlist to be used?

In the case of Australia I found that there are three different playlists, which differ in the text language used in the prolog and the text before the credits. It would be nice if I could at least edit the generated playlist.

Or - is there a way to edit the generated commands list in BD Rebulder and then start the process?

[jdobbs]

There's already a way to choose the playlist:
MODE/Alternate Movie-Only Playlist

[samtroy]

Hi,

I have tried now multiple times to re-encode "Australia" (region B) and always failed with the error:

-----------------------
[00:22:35] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
...
- [10:17:34] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
-
[11:09:05] - Failed to REBUILD


The used meta files looks like this:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:05:03.886;00:06:08.785;00:16:17.893;00:22:30.557;00:26:59.117;
00:32:40.333;00:41:30.613;00:52:23.014;00:57:29.320;01:00:07.520;01:09:48.893;01:14:57.409;
01:18:07.099;01:29:32.450;01:38:19.226;01:44:46.655;01:47:32.320;01:54:33.074;01:56:05.583;
02:03:37.660;02:08:31.370;02:14:35.108;02:23:16.838;02:33:59.563;02:37:46.373;02:45:28.084 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00052.M2TS"+"E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00045.M2TS"+"E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES
\00053.M2TS"+"E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00051.M2TS", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
A_AC3, "E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\AUD_00052_4354.AC3", lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "E:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00052.track_4610.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=deu


I have now three questions:

- obviously the remux did not work - any idea why?
- I was using the "do not convert DTS to AC3" option. Why did it still convert the audio?
- the language code seems to be set to "deu" - shouldn't this be "ger" ?

Greetings and thanks for yout effort!

Hhmmm... I had a similar problem last night with POTC3 (Region B, movie only, 2 audiotracks). It "failed to REBUILD", I don't have the log file anymore, sorry. HDD space was ok, latest BDR version.

Even more strangely there was the "--avchd" option present in the final muxing meta file. But I did NOT chose "stricter AVCHD compliance" in the settings (I doublechecked)! The correct parameter for TSMuxer should have been "--blu-ray" then, right? :confused:

I suspect that the intermediate MKV format was the reason for the error because BDR couldn't find some file (I think it was a MKV file). I think I'm going to disable the intermediate MKV format from now on using the MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0 ini-setting.

My question: Is it absolutely safe to disable BDR's MKV function for all movies from now on? I just do movie-only encodes. Or do I limit myself somehow if I turn it off?

[mousefan]

Have tried several times to re-encode Independence Day (Region A) "movie only" with no luck.

Steup is:

[Status]
LABEL=ID4_US_V2
VERSION=v0.29.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=37979387904
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=37979387904
TARGET_SIZE=25165824000
REDUCTION=.662617945913487
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
COMPLETED=1
[00001]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=1000001
M2TS_TARGET=25165803644
RATE=20000
NSIZE=22487697408
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
M2TS_TARGET=20356


The rebuilder log is:
-----------------------
[12:27:21] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: ID4_US_V2
- Input BD size: 35.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:48.680]
- Target BD size: 23.44 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[12:27:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:27:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [12:51:47] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [12:51:47] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 208,296 frames
- Bitrate: 20,000 Kbs
- [12:51:47] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:51:48] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:36:47] Video Encode complete
- [14:36:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:43:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:58:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:58:14] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [14:58:14] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [14:58:14] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:58:16] Video Encode complete
- [14:58:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
- Can't open file: F:\ID4\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264
[14:58:16] - Failed to build structure, aborted


However, I can do the full disc with no problem.

Rebuilder log is:
-----------------------
[15:57:57] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: ID4_US_V2
- Input BD size: 40.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:46:56.756]
- Target BD size: 23.44 GB
[15:57:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:57:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [15:57:59] Reencoding: VID_00017 (1 of 14)
- [15:58:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [15:58:02] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 14)
- [15:58:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [15:58:15] Reencoding: VID_00013 (3 of 14)
- [15:58:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [15:59:17] Reencoding: VID_00016 (4 of 14)
- [16:00:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [16:00:28] Reencoding: VID_00006 (5 of 14)
- [16:01:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [16:01:26] Reencoding: VID_00011 (6 of 14)
- [16:03:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [16:03:24] Reencoding: VID_00007 (7 of 14)
- [16:04:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [16:04:58] Reencoding: VID_00010 (8 of 14)
- [16:06:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [16:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00015 (9 of 14)
- [16:09:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [16:10:10] Reencoding: VID_00014 (10 of 14)
- [16:12:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [16:12:12] Reencoding: VID_00008 (11 of 14)
- [16:14:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [16:14:37] Reencoding: VID_00012 (12 of 14)
- [16:16:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [16:17:13] Reencoding: VID_00009 (13 of 14)
- [16:19:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [16:34:12] Reencoding: VID_00001 (14 of 14)
[18:36:20]PHASE ONE complete
[18:36:20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:36:20] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:36:48] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:36:50]JOB: ID4_US_V2 finished.

[chudm]

hi guys i had a problem doing a full backup to bd25, when was rebuilding file extructure:

error 2202, rebuildbdfiles() 00052 2202

this happened with the lastest beta, doing braveheart

[samtroy]

@jdobbs

Ok.. 4 people (including myself) with rebuild problems. It seems that there may be some sort of rebuild bug in the latest BDR versions.

Also, I still end up with 4 AC3 tracks in the workfolder when I only choose 2 AC3 tracks (eng/ger) and also choose *not* to reencode AC3 files.

Here are the filenames/sizes:

00001.track_4353.ac3 808.811.520 <- the original ones I guess
00001.track_4358.ac3 808.811.520 <- the original ones I guess
AUD_00001_4353.AC3 808.814.080 <- new ones created by BDR
AUD_00001_4358.AC3 808.814.080 <- new ones created by BDR

AUD_00001_4353.AVS:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.29.04 (beta)
LoadPlugin("D:\BD Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00001.track_4353.ac3").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,5,6) : audio
audio

AUD_00001_4358.AVS:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.29.04 (beta)
LoadPlugin("D:\BD Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00001.track_4358.ac3").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,5,6) : audio
audio

My settings:

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8300

I thought with those settings the original AC3 streams are left untouched... (?)

Why is BD Rebuilder writing/reencoding those tracks again? What happens there and does it affect the sound quality? Can it be turned off maybe with some ini-setting?

Thanks for any help.

[stackner]

i just ran the simpsons movie (aus region B version) through bd rebuilder asking for a bd25 size. however the size i got was 12gb. i then looked at the original source and unlike other bluray movies ive seen where the main movie is one large files say 30gb in size with the simpsons movie the main movie is split like a dvd into multiple smaller files

4 files actually first one being 1.6gb
second 2gb
third 9.5gb
fourth 9.2gb

would thei be making a problem for bd rebuilder?
im going to try it again and post the log file is it happens again.

[tekmobile]

i just ran the simpsons movie (aus region B version) through bd rebuilder asking for a bd25 size. however the size i got was 12gb. i then looked at the original source and unlike other bluray movies ive seen where the main movie is one large files say 30gb in size with the simpsons movie the main movie is split like a dvd into multiple smaller files

4 files actually first one being 1.6gb
second 2gb
third 9.5gb
fourth 9.2gb

would thei be making a problem for bd rebuilder?
im going to try it again and post the log file is it happens again.

No the splitting of the files won't affect the sizing

With this disc being clean animation it compresses very well meaning it does not require a high bitrate.

[stackner]

uh fair enough. id still like it to sit round the 25gb mark regardless since there is the room on the disc and since they used more than that space for the original. although i guess i am removing a few audio tracks so maybe the original VIDEO was small.

cheers again.

[chudm]

hi guys i had a problem doing a full backup to bd25, when was rebuilding file extructure:

error 2202, rebuildbdfiles() 00052 2202

this happened with the lastest beta, doing braveheart

any suggestion? :(

[Dark Shikari]

jdobbs, if you set qpmin=0, you'll get rid of undersizing forever ;)

[Capsbackup]

jdobbs, if you set qpmin=0, you'll get rid of undersizing forever ;)

Would this resulting file, though maybe larger in size, have any better quality characteristics?
Or, perhaps maybe satisfy those whom believe the quality is higher if the file size is larger. :p

[jdobbs]

Hhmmm... I had a similar problem last night with POTC3 (Region B, movie only, 2 audiotracks). It "failed to REBUILD", I don't have the log file anymore, sorry. HDD space was ok, latest BDR version.

Even more strangely there was the "--avchd" option present in the final muxing meta file. But I did NOT chose "stricter AVCHD compliance" in the settings (I doublechecked)! The correct parameter for TSMuxer should have been "--blu-ray" then, right? :confused:

I suspect that the intermediate MKV format was the reason for the error because BDR couldn't find some file (I think it was a MKV file). I think I'm going to disable the intermediate MKV format from now on using the MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0 ini-setting.

My question: Is it absolutely safe to disable BDR's MKV function for all movies from now on? I just do movie-only encodes. Or do I limit myself somehow if I turn it off? "--avchd" is used for all movie-only encodes. Strict compliance removes certain directories. If you want it to use "--blu-ray" add "FORCE_BLURAY=1" to your INI file. Warning: The blu-ray format will NOT work on some standalone players.

The MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0 really shouldn't make any difference -- but it has been reported to work better with certain systems.

[jdobbs]

any suggestion? :( There's a file missing... it's anybody's guess how it disappeared.

[jdobbs]

Would this resulting file, though maybe larger in size, have any better quality characteristics?
Or, perhaps maybe satisfy those whom believe the quality is higher if the file size is larger. :pOf course not (at least not in any detectable manner). But it would at least stop most of the continual "I want to fill up my disc" reports and make people feel good, so I think I'll add it. I still might get some undersizing, though, when people attempt to make BD-25 discs out of short sources and you hit the BD bitrate limit.

[worknstiff]

Sounds good to me. So how would that work? PADDING=1

[chudm]

There's a file missing... it's anybody's guess how it disappeared.

missing after i ripped the disc? or while it was rebuilding it? ill try to try again tonight cause nobody used the pc

[worknstiff]

I never get over how you could take a 3 hour plus movie at 30 gig and compress it down to 7.75 gig and not see a loss in quality. I kept trying to take Watchmen and split it into 2 pieces and then run BD_RBLDR on each 1:33 piece but It still looked the same either way. Finally I got it, size doesn't matter any more with x264.

[jdobbs]

Have tried several times to re-encode Independence Day (Region A) "movie only" with no luck.

Steup is:

[Status]
LABEL=ID4_US_V2
VERSION=v0.29.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=37979387904
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=37979387904
TARGET_SIZE=25165824000
REDUCTION=.662617945913487
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
COMPLETED=1
[00001]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=1000001
M2TS_TARGET=25165803644
RATE=20000
NSIZE=22487697408
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
M2TS_TARGET=20356


The rebuilder log is:
-----------------------
[12:27:21] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: ID4_US_V2
- Input BD size: 35.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:48.680]
- Target BD size: 23.44 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[12:27:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:27:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [12:51:47] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [12:51:47] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 208,296 frames
- Bitrate: 20,000 Kbs
- [12:51:47] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:51:48] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:36:47] Video Encode complete
- [14:36:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:43:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:58:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:58:14] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [14:58:14] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [14:58:14] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:58:16] Video Encode complete
- [14:58:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
- Can't open file: F:\ID4\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264
[14:58:16] - Failed to build structure, aborted


However, I can do the full disc with no problem.

Rebuilder log is:
-----------------------
[15:57:57] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: ID4_US_V2
- Input BD size: 40.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:46:56.756]
- Target BD size: 23.44 GB
[15:57:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:57:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [15:57:59] Reencoding: VID_00017 (1 of 14)
- [15:58:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [15:58:02] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 14)
- [15:58:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [15:58:15] Reencoding: VID_00013 (3 of 14)
- [15:58:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [15:59:17] Reencoding: VID_00016 (4 of 14)
- [16:00:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [16:00:28] Reencoding: VID_00006 (5 of 14)
- [16:01:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [16:01:26] Reencoding: VID_00011 (6 of 14)
- [16:03:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [16:03:24] Reencoding: VID_00007 (7 of 14)
- [16:04:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [16:04:58] Reencoding: VID_00010 (8 of 14)
- [16:06:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [16:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00015 (9 of 14)
- [16:09:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [16:10:10] Reencoding: VID_00014 (10 of 14)
- [16:12:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [16:12:12] Reencoding: VID_00008 (11 of 14)
- [16:14:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [16:14:37] Reencoding: VID_00012 (12 of 14)
- [16:16:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [16:17:13] Reencoding: VID_00009 (13 of 14)
- [16:19:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [16:34:12] Reencoding: VID_00001 (14 of 14)
[18:36:20]PHASE ONE complete
[18:36:20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:36:20] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:36:48] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:36:50]JOB: ID4_US_V2 finished.Thanks for the helpful report. Found it and fixed it.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs"--avchd" is used for all movie-only encodes.1) What is the earliest version of BD-RB to incorporate this as a default setting?

2) Does/Can this affect the "HDDVD_Compliant" setting in any way?

[skylab1]

@skylab1

Hi!

What version of "AnyDVDHD" did you use?

I ask because according to postings at the SlySoft forum, a proper rip requires the use of v.6.5.8.1 beta...


That may have explained the problem, I upgraded to the latest version after I already did the rip. AnyDVD HD did ask me to download an update before the rip so I though that would have been enough.

I try rip it again with the latest version see if the same problem occur.

Thanks for the tip.

[samtroy]

"--avchd" is used for all movie-only encodes. Strict compliance removes certain directories. If you want it to use "--blu-ray" add "FORCE_BLURAY=1" to your INI file. Warning: The blu-ray format will NOT work on some standalone players.

The MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0 really shouldn't make any difference -- but it has been reported to work better with certain systems.

Ok I see, thanks.

Well, my BD-Player (LG BD390) supports 'real' blu-ray BD9s without a problem. Would there be *any* disadvantage for me if I continue to use "--avchd"? Or is it better to use FORCE_BLURAY=1 in my case? Some disc navigation advantages maybe?

And would you please be so kind and share your thoughts on that "double AC3" problem I'm having again:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1327346#post1327346

It's driving me nuts.. ;)

Thanks alot for your time. :thanks:

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs1) What is the earliest version of BD-RB to incorporate this as a default setting?

2) Does/Can this affect the "HDDVD_Compliant" setting in any way?

1. v0.22.01 (May, 2009, it's in the change log)
2. No. AVCHD is the output file format and isn't related at all to what HDDVD_Compliant does.

[jdobbs]

Ok I see, thanks.

Well, my BD-Player (LG BD390) supports 'real' blu-ray BD9s without a problem. Would there be *any* disadvantage for me if I continue to use "--avchd"? Or is it better to use FORCE_BLURAY=1 in my case? Some disc navigation advantages maybe?

And would you please be so kind and share your thoughts on that "double AC3" problem I'm having again:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1327346#post1327346

It's driving me nuts.. ;)

Thanks alot for your time. :thanks:In most cases it is better to leave it at the default. If you set FORCE_BLURAY you may be creating a disc that isn't compatible with future players, etc. Give it another year and players are going to be under $100 -- and you'll start seeing multiple players in a single home (like DVD). You don't want to lock yourself into a single player brand/type.

There are no advantages I can think of for changing it... I just put the option in to maintain backward compatibility and "just in case".

I've gone through the code over-and-over and I can't see any way that an AC3 would be generated unless it is chosen to do so. As for the two instances of each -- that's perfectly normal. If you have selected to reencode AC3 you will have the original (demuxed) and the reencode (@ either 640Kbs or 448Kbs). The reason that is done (e.g. from 640Kbs to 640Kbs) is so other adjustments can be made (filtering, normalization, etc.) in future versions. Today the only adjustment is "AUDIO_AMPLIFY=" which can increase reencoded volume levels.

I've added an entry to the log that shows the audio settings at the start of the backup. That way, when I get a report of this type I can see absolutely what the settings are. Right now, until I can find a way it could happen, I have to assume the settings weren't what was thought at the time the job was started. Sometimes (especially in batch mode) the settings used for encoding aren't the ones you have in your INI file. They are what was there at the time the job was added to the queue.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new version of BD-RB (v0.29.05). Changes for this version are:- Corrected an issue in which, while the new audio
delay routine in v0.29.04 was finding the delays
correctly, they weren't being properly applied at
remux. It should work correctly now.
- Corrected an error in BATCH mode that could result
in "RebuildFiles() 00075 2202" when output folder
already exists.
- Corrected an error in which small files that are a
part of a multi-part movie-only encode could cause
a "Can't open file: ...\VID_XXX.AVS.264"
- Added code to adjust initial value when using CRF
while resizing to 720p. Should reduce prediction
passes.
- Fixed an error in which sometimes (when PiP exists)
the selection of 720p resizing was not following
through in the encode.
- Made changes to ensure that all 720p encodes held to
BD specs -- especially when converting 29.97 or 25fps
sources (requires framerate doubling).
- Added "AssumeFPS()" to the AVS file when appropriate
to make frame timing more exact.
- Corrected an error in which resizing would not occur
when destination space would not require encoding.
- Added a new setting to the SETUP dialog that will
convert standard definition (SD) sources (480/576)
to 720p. This mode is useful for SAPs that always
output in wide screen mode giving a "stretched"
appearance to SD sources. It may also improve
picture quality on some sources.
- Added "--qpmin=0" to all command lines. This should
reduce the likelihood of undersizing on high bitrate
encodes.
- Updated X264.EXE in zip distribution package to the
latest (r1159) version.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[chudm]

redoing for the 3rd time braveheart, last night had the same problem with this:

Corrected an error in BATCH mode that could result
in "RebuildFiles() 00075 2202" when output folder
already exists.

will let you know if it works! thx again jdobbs!

[samtroy]

I've gone through the code over-and-over and I can't see any way that an AC3 would be generated unless it is chosen to do so. As for the two instances of each -- that's perfectly normal. If you have selected to reencode AC3 you will have the original (demuxed) and the reencode (@ either 640Kbs or 448Kbs). The reason that is done (e.g. from 640Kbs to 640Kbs) is so other adjustments can be made (filtering, normalization, etc.) in future versions. Today the only adjustment is "AUDIO_AMPLIFY=" which can increase reencoded volume levels.

OK, just to be clear: Even if I choose NOT to reencode AC3 tracks, BD Rebuilder will process the demuxed original AC3 tracks anyway to "amplify" the sound by using nicaudio.dll?

Isn't this bad because reencoding the AC3 tracks will degrade the audio quality? Or is this "amplifying" done without really reencoding the audiodata?

Can this be turned off by any chance? I'm sure some users would like to leave the AC3 tracks completely untouched..

[jdobbs]

OK, just to be clear: Even if I choose NOT to reencode AC3 tracks, BD Rebuilder will process the demuxed original AC3 tracks anyway to "amplify" the sound by using nicaudio.dll?

Isn't this bad because reencoding the AC3 tracks will degrade the audio quality? Or is this "amplifying" done without really reencoding the audiodata?

Can this be turned off by any chance? I'm sure some users would like to leave the AC3 tracks completely untouched..It will reencode by default. You can decide not to reencode by choosing to keep the original AC3. You do that by selecting "Do not reencode AC3" in the SETUP dialog.

Be careful, though, because deciding to keep anything other than standard AC3 at 640Kbs or below -- you are violating the AVCHD specification for movie-only reencodes.

In most cases the reencode is not distinguishable from the original.

[samtroy]

It will reencode by default. You can decide not to reencode by choosing to keep the original AC3. You do that by selecting "Do not reencode AC3" in the SETUP dialog.

Be careful, though, because deciding to keep anything other than standard AC3 at 640Kbs or below -- you are violating the AVCHD specification for movie-only reencodes.

In most cases the reencode is not distinguishable from the original.

Thanks for your answer but I think we have some kind of misunderstandig here:

I *always* select not to reencode the AC3 track because I want to keep the original, untouched 640kbs AC3 tracks (when available).

But BD Rebuilder *always* does process the demuxed AC3 files anyway. They are written again to the workfolder with nicaudio.dlls amplify-settings applied. Which means they are now modified and not untouched anymore. Those new, modified AC3 files are also used at the end for the final muxing. Even if I have chosen not to re-encode AC3 tracks. I have checked with different movies.

My question was if this (automatic) AC3 amplifying step can be turned off, maybe by some ini-setting? Or some clarification on how this amplifying is done by nicaudio.dll: By completely re-encoding or only by modifying some volume values in the AC3 file and keeping the core audiodata untouched?

[samtroy]

Strange VC-1 encoding errors

I've noticed that with VC-1 sources there are strange picture distortions in certain scenes. The effect appears only in *very grainy scenes* (like the whole movie "300" is shot). The picture then has some kind of pulsating horizontal distortions. As soon as these grainy scenes are over the problem is completely gone.

This problem is absolutely *not* there with AVC/H.264 movies! I've already tried different VC-1 de-coders: ffdshow's internal one and WMP9. But both show the same problem :mad:. So it's apparently not a decoding issue..

I suspect it has something to do with x264's encoding. As if x264 has problems to properly encode VC-1 movies with very grainy scenes in it. Maybe it doesn't distribute the bitrate correctly.. ??

Could BD Rebuilder's encoding settings for x264 have something to do with it? Or has anyone had similar problems like this with VC-1 movies?

Latest BDR version, Win7 (also tried Vista), movie-only, BD9, no resizing, 2-pass high quality. Like I said, H.264 sources are perfectly OK.

Thanks for any help!

[jdobbs]

Strange VC-1 encoding errors

I've noticed that with VC-1 sources there are strange picture distortions in certain scenes. The effect appears only in *very grainy scenes* (like the whole movie "300" is shot). The picture then has some kind of pulsating horizontal distortions. As soon as these grainy scenes are over the problem is completely gone.

This problem is absolutely *not* there with AVC/H.264 movies! I've already tried different VC-1 de-coders: ffdshow's internal one and WMP9. But both show the same problem :mad:. So it's apparently not a decoding issue..

I suspect it has something to do with x264's encoding. As if x264 has problems to properly encode VC-1 movies with very grainy scenes in it. Maybe it doesn't distribute the bitrate correctly.. ??

Could BD Rebuilder's encoding settings for x264 have something to do with it? Or has anyone had similar problems like this with VC-1 movies?

Latest BDR version, Win7 (also tried Vista), movie-only, BD9, no resizing, 2-pass high quality. Like I said, H.264 sources are perfectly OK.

Thanks for any help!Not likely -- X264 doesn't know or care about the source of the frames, they are delivered by AVISYNTH as decoded frames. Have you looked at the source by playing back through the AVS files. My guess would be that the error is there before the encode.

But BD Rebuilder *always* does process the demuxed AC3 files anyway. They are written again to the workfolder with nicaudio.dlls amplify-settings applied. Are you using BATCH mode? I have done many, many encodes keeping the original -- and it never reencodes for me. It just remuxes with that AVC encode. Give me an example source upon which it happens and the contents of the INI file and I'll do the same encode on mine. If it happens I'll fix it -- but it hasn't happened yet.

[samtroy]

Are you using BATCH mode? I have done many, many encodes keeping the original -- and it never reencodes for me. It just remuxes with that AVC encode. Give me an example source upon which it happens and the contents of the INI file and I'll do the same encode on mine. If it happens I'll fix it -- but it hasn't happened yet.

I'm not saying it re-ENCODES, it just re-WRITES it and does something to it, maybe reencoding, maybe not. No, no batch mode. Also always deleted all relevant ini-files or log data produced by BDR to have a "clean start" ("do not reencode AC3" is checked of course).

I'm sending you the latest log/ini-files and more detailed info via private message.

[Furiousflea]

I'm not saying it re-ENCODES, it just re-WRITES it and does something to it, maybe reencoding, maybe not. No, no batch mode. Also always deleted all relevant ini-files or log data produced by BDR to have a "clean start" ("do not reencode AC3" is checked of course).

I'm sending you the latest log/ini-files and more detailed info via private message.

It would have to re-encode it. If you modify a compressed audio stream in any way it will be re-encoded. Much like if you alter a jpeg image and save it as a jpeg again.

I think you might be forgetting that BDRB ALWAYS encodes AC3 audio no matter what - it doesn't mean that you will be using that recoded stream when muxing though.

For proof load the m2ts in eac3to and check if "dialogue normalization" is present. If it is, that means it hasn't been touched since BDRB strips it when it re-encodes.

[Capsbackup]

I can also confirm on a movie only backup to BD5 that BD-RB does not reencode the AC3 and does remux this original demuxed AC3 back into the new reencoded .m2ts.
I have only one AC3 file in my WORKFILES folder.
For proof load the m2ts in eac3to and check if "dialogue normalization" is present. If it is, that means it hasn't been touched since BDRB strips it when it re-encodes.
Log after running eac3to does say:
M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1 subtitle track, 2:23:46, 24p /1.001
1: h264/AVC 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: AC3, English 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
3:Subtitle (PGS), English

[jdobbs]

I can also confirm on a movie only backup to BD5 that BD-RB does not reencode the AC3 and does remux this original demuxed AC3 back into the new reencoded .m2ts.
I have only one AC3 file in my WORKFILES folder.

Log after running eac3to does say:
M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1 subtitle track, 2:23:46, 24p /1.001
1: h264/AVC 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: AC3, English 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
3:Subtitle (PGS), English Same thing I'm seeing. I just did another disc with an AC3 source with this latest release to be sure. It certainly looks to be working correctly to me.
I think you might be forgetting that BDRB ALWAYS encodes AC3 audio no matter what - it doesn't mean that you will be using that recoded stream when muxing though.It used to do that -- but now it just skips over the encode step when the original audio is being kept.

[samtroy]

Thanks for the input. This is driving me crazy. I think I'm going to reinstall my OS (Win7 32bit) first.. and then check again.. :cool:

[GaPony]

Maybe you should step back to XP or Vista until jdobbs has a chance to ensure compatibility with Windows 7, once its officially released.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the input. This is driving me crazy. I think I'm going to reinstall my OS (Win7 32bit) first.. and then check again.. :cool: I can't for the life of me figure why it would act differently on Win7. The entire decision is based on the setting in the INI.

In the version I posted yesterday I added an entry in the log that shows the settings at the time the encode is started. If you run into it with that one please post the log so I can tell whether the setting is being read properly from the INI.

Where did you install BD Rebuilder (the path)? I worry that Win7 may have some of the quirks that were there with Vista when it was first released -- and when the INI is being read, it is from a virtual location rather than the true one. If you installed in the "Program Files" directory that may be the case.

[Brian5970]

1st post on the BD-Rebuilder, but I've been doing "movie only" most of the time. Works great, and the improvements are great! Right on Jdobbs! I find I do need to activate the "stricter AVC" option for the discs to play on my samsung player.

In regard to Windows 7 - I'm running 64 bit ultimate and just re-installed the avi-synth and matroska. VERY important to have the vc-1 turned off on ffdshow! It does work good with that WMV11. The boys at Microsoft have come up with a pretty nifty codec for HD playback on the media player here - uses almost no CPU to run a movie in HD. I was impressed. It also appears that win7 does have the same vista-like hang-up with the program being installed on the same drive as the os.

Hope this helped...

[samtroy]

@jdobbs

Before I run some more tests, could you be so kind and tell me what this file from the workfolder is for:

AUD_00000_4352.AVS

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.29.05 (beta)
LoadPlugin("D:\BD Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00000.track_4352.ac3").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,5,6) : audio
audio

What's exactly happening there?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Before I run some more tests, could you be so kind and tell me what this file from the workfolder is for:

AUD_00000_4352.AVS

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.29.05 (beta)
LoadPlugin("D:\BD Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00000.track_4352.ac3").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,5,6) : audio
audio

What's exactly happening there? That file is the AVISYNTH script that is used when/if audio reencoding is done. It is always created for any audio stream that has been selected, even if the audio isn't being reencoded. The number (4352) is the Packet Identifier (PID) for that specific audio stream (within the original M2TS file). The "00000" indicates which M2TS contains that stream ("00000.M2TS).

You can open it with Media Player Classic or Microsoft Media Player and it will convert the AC3 to PCM and play it back. When reencoding, this script feeds that audio as PCM to the AC3 encoder.

[samtroy]

OK, thanks. That's what I was thinking.

Funny thing is that I demuxed the AC3 audio from BD Rebuilder's BD9 output and compared it with the freshly demuxed AC3 track from the original movie. Result: They were NOT identical (I used AC3Tool). The BDR AC3 had a different dialog level (-31db compared to -27db on the original) and the Mixlevel info was missing completely. So it has been re-encoded using that Avisynth script! Although the AC3 re-encode setting in BDR was turned off (I checked 100 times)!

But I'm doing new tests with a different movie on a freshly installed OS as we speak..

[drjake]

I tried to do a BD25 Movie Only back up of Coraline (VC-1) and failed. I have successfully done other movie only backups, but with this one the Disc immediately stops after the player or Windvd reads it. I burned the disc with Imgburn. If I play the mts file with media player it works fine. However, if I try to play the disc, my BD35 and Windvd correctly identify the disc as Blu-Ray but it gets no further than that. On Windvd, once it reads the disc, the player says "Stop" and it won't go any further. The BD35 just gets no further than identifying the disc as a BD. Any thoughts as to what is going on?

[nurbs]

The BDR AC3 had a different dialog level (-31db compared to -27db on the original) and the Mixlevel info was missing completely.
Different dialog normalization doesn't mean it was reencoded. It's just a tag that can be changed. Most software changes it to -31db (= no normalization) by default for various reasons I don't want to list now (look in the audio subforum if you are interested). The same may be true for the mixlevel, but I'm not sure about that.

[samtroy]

Different dialog normalization doesn't mean it was reencoded. It's just a tag that can be changed. Most software changes it to -31db (= no normalization) by default for various reasons I don't want to list now (look in the audio subforum if you are interested). The same may be true for the mixlevel, but I'm not sure about that.

Of course you are right. But it proves that the used AC3 for the final muxing was not the original, untouched one (like it should have been). And just like jdobbs explained, the AviSynth file in question feeds the AC3 as PCM to the AC3 encoder (even with an amplify command added!). Very suspicious indeed ;)..

But like I said, maybe its an problem on my end. I'm doing some tests right now..

[TRONDROM]

Need help. I just want to make sure that I'm using the correct BD-RB Setup settings for a BD-25 encode. I've done about 15 so far and ten of them have come out fine, but five will not load or play in my Sony BDP-S300. I looked at the BD-Rebuilder notes and I get this error GUI issue, no hWnd returned. I will tell you that since I've updated to the newest version I've haven't had any problem, but just want to make sure that the bottom settings I'm using are the best settings for making a BD-25 full disc copy with DTS audio and one subtitle stream only.

Here are the settings I'm using.

Do not convert DTS to AC3 is checked.
Do not reencode AC3 is checked
Keep HD Audio for BD25 output is checked
Target size is BD-25 is checked

Configuration/INI Settings
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PROCESS_SECONDARY=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
SD_CONVERT=0

Is there anything wrong with these settings? I just want DTS English and English subtitles only, want all extras of the Bluray but AC3 sound is fine for the extras.

Just don't understand why some come out okay and others don't.

Also I use AnyDVD HD to remove Region Codes and remove any protection.

[DK]

I find I do need to activate the "stricter AVC" option for the discs to play on my samsung player.


Samsung player dont like AUXDATA folder; strict avchd is a wise move for BD5/9 and depending on the model stay away from booktyping to -rom.

[samtroy]

@jdobbs

OK, I've managed to reproduce the AC3 reencoding error:

First I did an BD5 backup of the movie with only *one* AC3 and subtitle track (eng), AC3 re-encode OFF, movie-only, no batch.

Everything was OK, no re-encoded/new AC3 track in the workfolder. The original AC3 track was used for the final muxing. No problems at all!

But...

Then I did the same movie again but now I changed the following things:

- not one but *two* AC3 and subtitle tracks (eng+ger)
- not BD5 but BD9
- I set MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0

All other settings stayed exactly the same!

And now BD Rebuilder DID re-encode the AC3 tracks although AC3 re-encoding was turned OFF in the settings! I ended up with *four* AC3 files in the workfolder, not two. I even made a screenshot of the processing which I attached for proof!

So there must be a bug somewhere which leads to the unwanted re-encoding of the AC3 tracks. Somewhere in the audio selection maybe, when *more than one* AC3/sub track is selected?

I hope you can trace it down.. :thanks:

[turbojet]

There's been reports of the samsung auxdata issue fixed in the july batch of firmwares for all but the BD-P1000. Are you guys using July or newer firmwares?

Also seems BD-Px600 series play mkv/mp4 with a firmware update.


Thanks jdobbs for the assumefps, now eac3to doesn't throw errors and panasonic/samsung 24p may just work now. It should be safe to remove --fps from the x264 command if you want, it has no effect either way.

Also I see that 20000 is max bitrate for BD25 is that right?
If so it takes over 2.5 hours of video\audio to fill a BD25 which could be the cause of the undersizing reports.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I am trying to do a full movie backup to BD-25, and test the new option to convert SD to HD (720p). When I select this box and select save changes, the box does not stay checked/selected.

EDIT:
The INI does seem to get the call though, SD_CONVERT=1.
If I close BD-RB, then reopen, box is not checked, but INI still says SD_CONVERT=1.
If I open BD-RB, select the box, then deselect the box, click save changes, then the INI says SD_CONVERT=0.
So appears to be working in the INI just not the GUI. :(

[Sn8kbordin]

@skylab1

Hi!

What version of "AnyDVDHD" did you use?

I ask because according to postings at the SlySoft forum, a proper rip requires the use of v.6.5.8.1 beta...

The current one is version 6.5.8.2, 2009-09-10.
Is this one good?

[setarip_old]

@Sn8kbordin

Hi!The current one is version 6.5.8.2, 2009-09-10. Is this one good?Logically, yes - unless a new bug was introduced with the new beta.

The only way to be sure is to try it ;>}

[jc243]

Great Work.

I have a project with multiple audio, and only select those who wanted to randomly deleting some, on the top menu does not work when I select that I want or to select another of the erased this works.

Example

Select French and Spanish is heard and if I select Spanish it does not sound.

Is possible add a blank audio on delete track?

[jdobbs]

Need help. I just want to make sure that I'm using the correct BD-RB Setup settings for a BD-25 encode. I've done about 15 so far and ten of them have come out fine, but five will not load or play in my Sony BDP-S300. I looked at the BD-Rebuilder notes and I get this error GUI issue, no hWnd returned. I will tell you that since I've updated to the newest version I've haven't had any problem, but just want to make sure that the bottom settings I'm using are the best settings for making a BD-25 full disc copy with DTS audio and one subtitle stream only.

Here are the settings I'm using.

Do not convert DTS to AC3 is checked.
Do not reencode AC3 is checked
Keep HD Audio for BD25 output is checked
Target size is BD-25 is checked

Configuration/INI Settings
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PROCESS_SECONDARY=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
SD_CONVERT=0

Is there anything wrong with these settings? I just want DTS English and English subtitles only, want all extras of the Bluray but AC3 sound is fine for the extras.

Just don't understand why some come out okay and others don't.

Also I use AnyDVD HD to remove Region Codes and remove any protection. I would get rid of the "SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;" and "SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1". Sometimes the PGS's are used for other functions. In most cases it's best (especailly in BD-25) to keep all subtitles.

[jdobbs]

There's been reports of the samsung auxdata issue fixed in the july batch of firmwares for all but the BD-P1000. Are you guys using July or newer firmwares?

Also seems BD-Px600 series play mkv/mp4 with a firmware update.


Thanks jdobbs for the assumefps, now eac3to doesn't throw errors and panasonic/samsung 24p may just work now. It should be safe to remove --fps from the x264 command if you want, it has no effect either way.

Also I see that 20000 is max bitrate for BD25 is that right?
If so it takes over 2.5 hours of video\audio to fill a BD25 which could be the cause of the undersizing reports.The maximum average bitrate for BD25 should be set to 35000 with a the maximum peak bitrate is 40000. But I'll make sure I haven't screwed it up. I changed it once (in several places) to 20000/25000 to accommodate moving to level 4.0 before the new "--slices" option was added to X264 -- it's possible I may have missed changing it back somewhere. I'll take a look at it.

[Edit] Yep. The maximum was set to 20000. Actually I think I did that a long time ago... I'll change it for the next release, but I'll have to figure out a good tradeoff. I was being cautious because the maximum combined bitrate for all streams (primary, secondary, audio and PGS) has to stay under 48000 Kbs. With a 5.1 LPCM audio up around 6MBs for a track and a secondary video track at 8Mbs it can gets a little risky at 35000/40000.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
I am trying to do a full movie backup to BD-25, and test the new option to convert SD to HD (720p). When I select this box and select save changes, the box does not stay checked/selected.

EDIT:
The INI does seem to get the call though, SD_CONVERT=1.
If I close BD-RB, then reopen, box is not checked, but INI still says SD_CONVERT=1.
If I open BD-RB, select the box, then deselect the box, click save changes, then the INI says SD_CONVERT=0.
So appears to be working in the INI just not the GUI. :( There's probably a syntax error in the line where it is read in SETUP. I'll look at it.

[jefrey]

I have a strange playback issue with le dobermann bluray. i have to skip the playback several times (intro, and other titles.)..until Title 3 starts to play, and that is the movie itself.
and the second issue is, thats extremly undersized:( 16gb @20000kbs max bitrate.
:confused:

[drjake]

I tried again with Coraline forcing a reencode to see if it had something to do with the VC-1. It still will not play in any standalone nor in Windvd. As soon as you press play it immediately stops and shows "Stop" on the screen. This is the only BD that has not worked for me. Here are my log file and ini files:

-----------------------
[10:53:51] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: CORALINE
- Input BD size: 19.28 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:40:36.238]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[10:53:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:53:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [11:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
[11:37:46]PHASE ONE complete
[11:37:46]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:37:46] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[11:58:21] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[11:58:21]JOB: CORALINE finished.


[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
FORCE_ENCODE=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\CORALINE\CORALINE\
WORKING_PATH=C:\TEMP\

Anybody have any ideas what is going on here.

I tried to do a BD25 Movie Only back up of Coraline (VC-1) and failed. I have successfully done other movie only backups, but with this one the Disc immediately stops after the player or Windvd reads it. I burned the disc with Imgburn. If I play the mts file with media player it works fine. However, if I try to play the disc, my BD35 and Windvd correctly identify the disc as Blu-Ray but it gets no further than that. On Windvd, once it reads the disc, the player says "Stop" and it won't go any further. The BD35 just gets no further than identifying the disc as a BD. Any thoughts as to what is going on?

[jdobbs]

I have a strange playback issue with le dobermann bluray. i have to skip the playback several times (intro, and other titles.)..until Title 3 starts to play, and that is the movie itself.
and the second issue is, thats extremly undersized:( 16gb @20000kbs max bitrate.
:confused: See the post a few back.

If it is as 20000Kbs -- any additional bitrate would almost assuredly be wasted anyway. The quality is important, not the size -- and the two don't always correlate. A good test would be to look in the stats files -- and I think you'll find QP values in the "under 16" range. That is an indicator of a virtually perfect backup.

I'm not aiming at you personally, but I have serious issues with reports that are looking at output size or say "it didn't fill the disc!"... in most cases it is meaningless. I'll be happy to add a zero filled file to the output to make it 24GB -- as in most cases that will do about the same to improve the quality as adding bitrate above 20000 Kbs.

[Capsbackup]

Just finished testing a full movie backup to BD-25 of The Shining with BD-RBV02905, with the option to convert SD to HD (720p), burned to BD-RE for playback on my BX-1.
I have to say that the quality of the 480i extras upconverted to 720p are absolutely perfect compared to the original disc. I was skeptical that upconverting could improve the original, and probably has not, but there is definately no loss from the original and visually it is equivalent! For a pretty old movie, I am impressed.
Another great option jdobbs, and your program has developed quite nicely. A big :thanks:

[TRONDROM]

I would get rid of the "SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;" and "SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1". Sometimes the PGS's are used for other functions. In most cases it's best (especailly in BD-25) to keep all subtitles.

All right, will do J....thanks for your help and your amazing program....:smile:

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Hi!

It appears that the newer methodology for creating HDDVD-compliant files ("HDDVD_COMPLIANT=1" in .INI) produces less compliant (Read as, "no longer works completely when used with "multiAVCHD") files than did the earlier concept of directly adding to the .INI two "custom" lines plus, if I remember correctly, a specific line for "ENCODE_QUALITY=" (was it "6"?) and, possibly, "FORCE_ENCODE=1".

I confirmed that "multiAVCHD" is not the cause of this, by using an earlier version of BD-RB that utilized the "custom" lines, etc. to compress the same BluRay to "movie-only" again - and "multiAVCHD" properly and successfully processed and converted it to HDDVD (Burned DVD5 plays perfectly on my Toshiba HDDVD standalone).

I also tried replacing "HDDVD_COMPLIANT=1" with the "custom" lines, etc. with both v.29.04 nd v.29.05. Both efforts resulted in the same previously described failure.

Your thoughts please?

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
v0.29.05. Movie Gladiator. Resize to 720p. Full backup.
Main feature is split into many .m2ts. Some of these are still not resized to 720p but stick to the original 1080p.
In one case, instead of starting a crf prediction the log just indicates "Reencoding: ....Pass 1 of 1". In the second case the crf prediction runs normally but the encode remains at 1080.
Any thoughts?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Hi!

It appears that the newer methodology for creating HDDVD-compliant files ("HDDVD_COMPLIANT=1" in .INI) produces less compliant (Read as, "no longer works completely when used with "multiAVCHD") files than did the earlier concept of directly adding to the .INI two "custom" lines plus, if I remember correctly, a specific line for "ENCODE_QUALITY=" (was it "6"?) and, possibly, "FORCE_ENCODE=1".

I confirmed that "multiAVCHD" is not the cause of this, by using an earlier version of BD-RB that utilized the "custom" lines, etc. to compress the same BluRay to "movie-only" again - and "multiAVCHD" properly and successfully processed and converted it to HDDVD (Burned DVD5 plays perfectly on my Toshiba HDDVD standalone).

I also tried replacing "HDDVD_COMPLIANT=1" with the "custom" lines, etc. with both v.29.04 nd v.29.05. Both efforts resulted in the same previously described failure.

Your thoughts please? Nothing has changed at all except the adding of "--slices 4" to all command lines. Could that be it?

Other than that, it uses the settings I was asked to use... you'll have to ask someone else what is correct -- as I don't have HD-DVD. It's a standard that is as dead as a doornail. If you can tell me what you want the settings to be I can set them. That's about the extent of my involvement (and as far as I plan to ever get involved).

By the way, the custom feature hasn't changed either.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
v0.29.05. Movie Gladiator. Resize to 720p. Full backup.
Main feature is split into many .m2ts. Some of these are still not resized to 720p but stick to the original 1080p.
In one case, instead of starting a crf prediction the log just indicates "Reencoding: ....Pass 1 of 1". In the second case the crf prediction runs normally but the encode remains at 1080.
Any thoughts? The "1 of 1" is normal. Extremely small segments can sometimes fail if you try to do two passes so it does a standard setting CRF pass.

I'll take a look at the 1080p thing...

[Sharc]

The "1 of 1" is normal. Extremely small segments can sometimes fail if you try to do two passes... I'll take a look at the 1080p thing...
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I went for One-Pass (crf) Encoding.
The segment was not even really small: 202 MB in the original / reencoded to 63 MB. So it has been reencoded, but not resized to 720p.

[DK]

There's been reports of the samsung auxdata issue fixed in the july batch of firmwares for all but the BD-P1000. Are you guys using July or newer firmwares?

Also seems BD-Px600 series play mkv/mp4 with a firmware update.


I'm using latest 2.02 FW for EU on my 1600.
Havent tested "Auxdata" present (if that's what you were driving at?) but -ROM booktyped media still does NOT work here.

And yes, MKV plays fine, i havent tested MP4 before because i only knew about MKV support along with YouTube and NTFS for external drives, which i really appreciate.

[jefrey]

Yes the size at that bitratevalue doesnt matter, i was just surprised about the size ;)

[jdobbs]

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I went for One-Pass (crf) Encoding.
The segment was not even really small: 202 MB in the original / reencoded to 63 MB. So it has been reencoded, but not resized to 720p. There's other critera involved as well. It's normal -- and needs to be there. Were the other segment(s) that were encoded at 1080p in the same boat?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Regarding HD-DVD:Nothing has changed at all except the adding of "--slices 4" to all command lines. Could that be it?
I'm afraid I have no way of knowing, so I'll ask the "other party"

Other than that, it uses the settings I was asked to use...By the way, the custom feature hasn't changed either. Did that include/require "a specific line for "ENCODE_QUALITY=6 and, possibly, "FORCE_ENCODE=1"?

If you can tell me what you want the settings to be I can set them.If the other party is willing to determine and provide the necessary settings, I'd greatly appreciate that ;>}

[Brian5970]

anybody having trouble re-encoding with windows 7 64? I had this working good w/ vista ultimate 64. Then I upgraded to 7 64 ultimate and the bd-rebuilder extracts the video fine, but when it goes to re-encode it hangs-up, retries 3 times and closes. I've been going over my ffdshow setting and matroska, AVIsynth and I think they're all set right. Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.

[whytellyou]

anybody having trouble re-encoding with windows 7 64? I had this working good w/ vista ultimate 64. Then I upgraded to 7 64 ultimate and the bd-rebuilder extracts the video fine, but when it goes to re-encode it hangs-up, retries 3 times and closes. I've been going over my ffdshow setting and matroska, AVIsynth and I think they're all set right. Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.

From the first page.....
BD Rebuilder has NOT BEEN MODIFIED/TESTED FOR USE ON WINDOWS 7. If you run into issues with Windows 7, please don't post bug reports. It will be updated, but not until the final version of Windows 7 is released in October 2009.

[deank]

[Color=Blue]@jdobbs

Regarding HD-DVD:
I'm afraid I have no way of knowing, so I'll ask the "other party"


@setarip: I emailed you but your email account seems to be suspended.


Level 4.0 = slices 0
Level 4.1 = slices 4

I guess using slices is not compatible with HD-DVD / hdddvdmux.

A suggestion would be to use NO slices if HDDVD-compliant option is used in BDRB's ini.

[jdobbs]

anybody having trouble re-encoding with windows 7 64? I had this working good w/ vista ultimate 64. Then I upgraded to 7 64 ultimate and the bd-rebuilder extracts the video fine, but when it goes to re-encode it hangs-up, retries 3 times and closes. I've been going over my ffdshow setting and matroska, AVIsynth and I think they're all set right. Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.Go back through the thread. Win7 needs some registry tweaking to work... unfortunately this kind of thing is the price you pay when you decide to upgrade to a new version of a Microsoft product before it is actually released.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
v0.29.05. Movie Gladiator. Resize to 720p. Full backup.
Main feature is split into many .m2ts. Some of these are still not resized to 720p but stick to the original 1080p.
In one case, instead of starting a crf prediction the log just indicates "Reencoding: ....Pass 1 of 1". In the second case the crf prediction runs normally but the encode remains at 1080.
Any thoughts?I just tried Gladiator and it seems to work correctly. I also went back through the code and can't find anything that could make it stay 1080p -- did you do any kind of external processing?

Can you tell me which M2TSs were showing oddness?

[Sharc]

I just tried Gladiator and it seems to work correctly. I also went back through the code and can't find anything that could make it stay 1080p -- did you do any kind of external processing?

Can you tell me which M2TSs were showing oddness?
No, I didn't do any preprocessing.
Files showing the oddness (re-encoded but not resized):
00002.m2ts (Studio intro)
00125.m2ts (Segment of the main feature). In addition, all audio (DTS) and sups were kept and muxed intact for this segment, instead of being selected and re-encoded to ac3 for audio. It is noted that the 00125.m2ts belongs to the playlist for the "extended version". It is not used for the "theatre version".

[drjake]

I have pinned down where my problems with the movie only backup of Coraline stem from. I actually used TSMuxer and TSMuxer GUI to create BD-25 files out of the m2ts file created by BD Rebuilder and created a working backup. Thus, it appears that something is going wrong in the rebuild phase. Note that I successfully did movie-only backups in the past with earlier versions of BD-Rebuilder but can't pinpoint when it would have stopped working for me. I do know that the various .28 and .29 versions are not working in making movie-only backups for me. Note that the TSMUXER created files include the following folders that were not created with BD-Rebuilder for Coraline: Auxdata, BDJO, JAR and Meta.

I do not know if this is a bug or if somehow I have jumbled my installation of the support programs. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I tried again with Coraline forcing a reencode to see if it had something to do with the VC-1. It still will not play in any standalone nor in Windvd. As soon as you press play it immediately stops and shows "Stop" on the screen. This is the only BD that has not worked for me. Here are my log file and ini files:

-----------------------
[10:53:51] BD Rebuilder v0.29.04 (beta)
- Source: CORALINE
- Input BD size: 19.28 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:40:36.238]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[10:53:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:53:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [11:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
[11:37:46]PHASE ONE complete
[11:37:46]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:37:46] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[11:58:21] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[11:58:21]JOB: CORALINE finished.


[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
FORCE_ENCODE=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\CORALINE\CORALINE\
WORKING_PATH=C:\TEMP\

Anybody have any ideas what is going on here.

[Capsbackup]

@drjake;
The latest version is BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta).
Looking at your posted log, there is not a reencoding taking place, since the original is less than BD-25 size. If you want to reencode this movie, try setting the size to BD-9 or BD-5. Movie only will look great for BD-5, but your choice if you want BD-9.
All BD-RB is doing with your current settings is demuxing/remuxing and rebuilding, all still with the original codec. (VC-1?)
Depending on if you have selected Strict Compliance for movie only AVCHD, Auxdata, BDJO, JAR and Meta will either be present or not.
Or:
With tsMuxeR GUI, either select AVCHD or BluRay. The files will be there or not accordingly.

[drjake]

I understand that there is not a re-encoding going on. I was trying to use BD Rebuilder to do a movie only BD-25. I have checked off Stricter AVCHD compliance. The problem is that the BD-25 backup is not working with BD-Rebuilder. The files that it is producing do not create a working blu-ray disk. I can do it the more difficult way with TSMuxer but I am trying to figure out why I can't do a BD-25 with BD-Rebuilder when I have been able to do it in the past.

@drjake;
The latest version is BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta).
Looking at your posted log, there is not a reencoding taking place, since the original is less than BD-25 size. If you want to reencode this movie, try setting the size to BD-9 or BD-5. Movie only will look great for BD-5, but your choice if you want BD-9.
All BD-RB is doing with your current settings is demuxing/remuxing and rebuilding, all still with the original codec. (VC-1?)
Depending on if you have selected Strict Compliance for movie only AVCHD, Auxdata, BDJO, JAR and Meta will either be present or not.
Or:
With tsMuxeR GUI, either select AVCHD or BluRay. The files will be there or not accordingly.

[Capsbackup]

I understand that there is not a re-encoding going on. I was trying to use BD Rebuilder to do a movie only BD-25. I have checked off Stricter AVCHD compliance. The problem is that the BD-25 backup is not working with BD-Rebuilder. The files that it is producing do not create a working blu-ray disk. I can do it the more difficult way with TSMuxer but I am trying to figure out why I can't do a BD-25 with BD-Rebuilder when I have been able to do it in the past.

BD-RB only uses tsMuxeR to rebuild the same way tsMuxeR does when using the tsMuxeR GUI. So I doubt the problem is BD-RB. You can try both with and without Stricter AVCHD compliance, but I believe if you are using BD-R/RE media, use BluRay setting.

[EDUDE]

Hello everyone.
I've been made about 15 bluray and I had no problem except the following:
let only the ENGLISH and SPANISH audio and select all the subtitles on Bdrebuilder options
But when watching the movie with SPANISH audio on, for more than select subtitles off, subtitles appears...
and the truth that is annoying ... any ideas what might be the problem... and what the solution? thanxs!

[jdobbs]

Hello everyone.
I've been made about 15 bluray and I had no problem except the following:
let only the ENGLISH and SPANISH audio and select all the subtitles on Bdrebuilder options
But when watching the movie with SPANISH audio on, for more than select subtitles off, subtitles appears...
and the truth that is annoying ... any ideas what might be the problem... and what the solution? thanxs! BD-RB never defaults subtitles on. It's probable that your player is setup so in a way that causes them to be activated.

[EDUDE]

thanks for the reply jdoobs...Use the PLAYSTATION 3 as blu-ray player ... I just finished 007 Casino Royale ... I try the original , select SPANISH audio and the captions do not appear ... instead I try the copy and subtitles appears... I believe that it isnt an issue of the PS3 ... There is something in the program that makes the captions go whenever another language is chosen than the English ..what do you think could be the problem?

[Sharc]

Maybe it's not a bug, but I am wondering about the initial value for crf prediction for the same file and same settings and same target size (BD9).

Full backup mode:
- [21:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00009 (4 of 95)
- [21:07:18] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2'510 frames
- [21:07:18] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 17.91 19.18 18.79 [18.88]

Movie only mode:
- [12:47:13] Reencoding: VID_00009 (2 of 26)
- [12:47:13] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2'510 frames
- [12:47:13] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 58.13 10.00 46.66 37.93 31.49 26.81 23.50 21.16 19.55 18.55 17.92 17.68 17.46 17.24 17.08 17.18 17.14 17.11 [17.10]

Why is the initial crf value for "movie only" 58.13, (continuing with large initial swings)? It looks strange to me, because I would have expected it to be lower than for "full backup" mode as there is more space available for movie only (which is eventually confirmed by the final value of 17.10 vs 18.88).
I noticed this "oddness" of the initial crf throughout the disc for most of the segments and for other discs as well.
On the positive I like to mention that the final target size was nicely met in both cases - which is the most important of course :)

[jdobbs]

Maybe it's not a bug, but I am wondering about the initial value for crf prediction for the same file and same settings and same target size (BD9).

Full backup mode:
- [21:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00009 (4 of 95)
- [21:07:18] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2'510 frames
- [21:07:18] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 17.91 19.18 18.79 [18.88]

Movie only mode:
- [12:47:13] Reencoding: VID_00009 (2 of 26)
- [12:47:13] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2'510 frames
- [12:47:13] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 58.13 10.00 46.66 37.93 31.49 26.81 23.50 21.16 19.55 18.55 17.92 17.68 17.46 17.24 17.08 17.18 17.14 17.11 [17.10]

Why is the initial crf value for "movie only" 58.13, (continuing with large initial swings)? It looks strange to me, because I would have expected it to be lower than for "full backup" mode as there is more space available for movie only (which is eventually confirmed by the final value of 17.10 vs 18.88).
I noticed this "oddness" of the initial crf throughout the disc for most of the segments and for other discs as well.
On the positive I like to mention that the final target size was nicely met in both cases - which is the most important of course :) It's linked to the new code I added for 720p conversion -- I've fixed it for the next version. I got one that started with a value of 738... and I was very surprised that X264 didn't choke on it. :)

[jdobbs]

thanks for the reply jdoobs...Use the PLAYSTATION 3 as blu-ray player ... I just finished 007 Casino Royale ... I try the original , select SPANISH audio and the captions do not appear ... instead I try the copy and subtitles appears... I believe that it isnt an issue of the PS3 ... There is something in the program that makes the captions go whenever another language is chosen than the English ..what do you think could be the problem?As I said: It is NOT in the program. I'd have to write code to turn subtitles on -- and I haven't. I can't say whether it is something in TSMUXER -- but I've never seen it reported anywhere. I've also gotten no other reports of an issue of this type in BD-RB other than yours.

Sorry, but that pretty much just leaves your PS3... whether "you believe" or not.

Is this a full backup or a movie-only backup?

[EDUDE]

always full backup... TERMINATOR - 300 - BATMAN the dark knight to mention a few... on HIGHT QUALITY, others on HIGHEST.... coulde it be a codec problem instead?

[tekmobile]

Just got an error anyone know what it means

[02:22:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:22:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (55814 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[02:22:38] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[jdobbs]

always full backup... TERMINATOR - 300 - BATMAN the dark knight to mention a few... on HIGHT QUALITY, others on HIGHEST.... coulde it be a codec problem instead? I've done 300 and Batman (Region A) and I don't have any problems...

I can't imagine how it could be a CODEC issue... the subs are an overlay. There is a register in the player that gets set when a graphic overlay (subtitle) is to be displayed. Somehow the register is getting set -- and only a command sequence or the player itself can set it. The command sequences from the original disc aren't touched when a backup is made by BD-RB, they are kept completely intact.

Something has to be turning it on in your player (PS-3).

[EDUDE]

Thank you very much jdobbs for taking care of the matter ... i will check the configuration of the PS3 and see if i can find a solution!

[samtroy]

@jdobbs

This may be a silly question: Why is BD Rebuilder muxing the re-encoded .264-file into an .m2ts-file first before making the final muxing (movie-only, mkv_intermediate=0)?

Wouldn't it be possible to do the final muxing *directly* with the .264-videofile?

Sorry if this has been discussed before..

[4444405]

Thanks for the continued updates for BD Rebuilder, it is a great piece of software and I have backed up many of my blu-ray collection without any problems.
However there is a series called Torchwood here in the UK and the blu-ray's for both series 2 and 3 fail to compress to BD-25. Is it because there is simply too long a duration of video on the original discs?

[14:14:00] BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta)
- Source: TORCHWOOD_S3_D1
- Input BD size: 41.98 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:05:06.386]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7127]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:14:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:14:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:14:03] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 15)
- [14:14:03] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,434 frames
- Bitrate: 4,156 Kbs
- [14:14:03] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:14:04] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[14:17:10] - Failed video encode, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=TORCHWOOD_S3_D1
VERSION=v0.29.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45077149274
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=44544909312
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.52946584474573
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
[00002]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=35744383
RATE=4156

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

This may be a silly question: Why is BD Rebuilder muxing the re-encoded .264-file into an .m2ts-file first before making the final muxing (movie-only, mkv_intermediate=0)?

Wouldn't it be possible to do the final muxing *directly* with the .264-videofile?

Sorry if this has been discussed before.. There are reasons it is done the way it is. Actually, when doing a full backup, the files made are the final M2TS files. In Movie-Only it is a little different.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the continued updates for BD Rebuilder, it is a great piece of software and I have backed up many of my blu-ray collection without any problems.
However there is a series called Torchwood here in the UK and the blu-ray's for both series 2 and 3 fail to compress to BD-25. Is it because there is simply too long a duration of video on the original discs?

[14:14:00] BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta)
- Source: TORCHWOOD_S3_D1
- Input BD size: 41.98 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:05:06.386]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7127]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:14:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:14:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:14:03] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 15)
- [14:14:03] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,434 frames
- Bitrate: 4,156 Kbs
- [14:14:03] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:14:04] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[14:17:10] - Failed video encode, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=TORCHWOOD_S3_D1
VERSION=v0.29.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45077149274
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=44544909312
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.52946584474573
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=2
[00002]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=35744383
RATE=4156 Length shouldn't have any effect. Normally when this error occurs it means the CODEC is having issues. The best way to see what causes the problem is to open the affected .AVS file (VID_00002.AVS) directly with Media Player Classic or Windows Media Player. In most cases an error message will be displayed.

[7saigon5]

Is it possible to add an external subtitiles when rebuilt a BD?If not,try to improve with this function would be perfect....!

[astraub]

Hi,

I found that the latest BD Rebuilder version generates problems in video coding during the first roughly 30 secs of movies. If there is mainly a black background (for example during the title screens) this black is more a middle gray and additional blocking errors occur. After this initial phase everything appears to be fine.

I found this problems on both movies I encoded ("Transformers" and "The boat that rocked", both region B) and checked that this does not show up in the original rip. It appears to me like the video coder needs some time to "sync" to the video stream. I have not observed this in previous versions.

Greetings

PS: just saw, that this is still happening at the credits (on black background) .... so it only has to do with the fact that most of the picture is black. I am going back to 29.04 and hope for the best ...

[jdobbs]

Hi,

I found that the latest BD Rebuilder version generates problems in video coding during the first roughly 30 secs of movies. If there is mainly a black background (for example during the title screens) this black is more a middle gray and additional blocking errors occur. After this initial phase everything appears to be fine.

I found this problems on both movies I encoded ("Transformers" and "The boat that rocked", both region B) and checked that this does not show up in the original rip. It appears to me like the video coder needs some time to "sync" to the video stream. I have not observed this in previous versions.

Greetings

PS: just saw, that this is still happening at the credits (on black background) .... so it only has to do with the fact that most of the picture is black. I am going back to 29.04 and hope for the best ... The version of BD-RB probably won't make a difference -- since X264 is actually doing the encoding. Before going back, I'd look at the original -- you may see that it is where the issue is.

[drjake]

This gets more interesting. I did a BD9 backup of Coraline and it works fine. However, if I do a BD25 (don't worry, I am using a BD-RE to experiment), the disc will not play. However, if I run the m2ts file through TSMUXER again (using tsmuxer GUI), I am able to create a working BD25 disc. This leads me to believe that there is some bug in BD-Rebuilder that affects BD25 backups.

[jdobbs]

This gets more interesting. I did a BD9 backup of Coraline and it works fine. However, if I do a BD25 (don't worry, I am using a BD-RE to experiment), the disc will not play. However, if I run the m2ts file through TSMUXER again (using tsmuxer GUI), I am able to create a working BD25 disc. This leads me to believe that there is some bug in BD-Rebuilder that affects BD25 backups.

This is a full backup to BD-25 or a movie-only backup? Also, what kind of player are you using?

[drjake]

This is a full backup to BD-25 or a movie-only backup? Also, what kind of player are you using?

It is movie only, Panasonic BD35. The m2ts will play fine in WMP or Windvd. However, the disc will not play in either my PC using Windvd or on the BD35. The disc starts reading and is recognized as a BD and then goes immediately to Stop. The Windvd player shows Stop in the screen and the BD35 shows HDMI on its screen. The BD9 version works fine though.

Here are my logs from the failed BD25 and the BD9:

[16:39:09] BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta)
- Source: CORALINE
- Input BD size: 19.28 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:40:36.238]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[16:39:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:39:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [17:16:35] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [17:16:35] Collecting video information
- [17:16:35] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [17:16:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:16:35] Multiplexing M2TS
[17:25:22]PHASE ONE complete
[17:25:22]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:25:22] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:32:49] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:32:49]JOB: CORALINE finished.
-----------------------
[20:59:35] BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta)
- Source: CORALINE
- Input BD size: 19.28 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:40:36.238]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:59:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:59:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [21:37:05] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [21:37:05] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 144,725 frames
- Bitrate: 9,506 Kbs
- [21:37:05] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:21:18] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:07:33] Video Encode complete
- [08:07:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:11:40] Multiplexing M2TS
[08:16:08]PHASE ONE complete
[08:16:08]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:16:08] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[08:22:19] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[08:22:19]JOB: CORALINE finished.

[samtroy]

I'm currently playing around with encoding settings and I'd like to ask the following basic question:

Is it possible that one-pass CRF encoding produces better quality sometimes that the default two-pass (bitrate-based?) encoding mode? Or is the default two-pass mode *always* the better option?

I'm asking because I've read somewhere that in x264's CRF mode some things are done differently..

[jdobbs]

I'm currently playing around with encoding settings and I'd like to ask the following basic question:

Is it possible that one-pass CRF encoding produces better quality sometimes that the default two-pass (bitrate-based?) encoding mode? Or is the default two-pass mode *always* the better option?

I'm asking because I've read somewhere that in x264's CRF mode some things are done differently.. I guess it ends up as opinion -- but while one-pass CRF can come very close to 2 pass encoding, I think two pass will do better under most circumstances. On the other hand, if the encode isn't very challenging, you would probably not be able to see the difference (but could save a lot of time).

The real tradeoff is in output sizing accuracy compared to time-to-encode.

[TRONDROM]

Quick question, I encoded a full movie back up of Punisher 2 War Zone to a BD-25. The disc loads up fine and plays in my Sony BDP-S300, but I've noticed the movie is a bit jumpy and choppy in parts, like the frame rate is stuttering. What could cause this? This is not the first time I've encountered this problem. I ended up just taking the largest M2TS file and running it through Ripbot instead and made a 20gb BDMV AVCHD file instead and burned it and it plays beautiful, but I wanted the whole bluray, extras included. What could cause BD-Rebuilder to cause stuttering of the frame rate?

[EDUDE]

Following samtroy questions about quality: for BD-25 , is it
worth to Select HIGHEST QUALITY, or HIGH QUALITY is already sufficient? my question is whether it's worth the time it takes for HIGHEST QUALITY, to notice any difference with the DEFAULT HIGH QUALITY.... thanxs!!

[Sharc]

I would say that you really won't notice a difference on a BD-25. 'Highest' is a waste of time IMHO on a BD-25.
I suggest you may want to try GOOD and tell us your findings. You may be surprised about the quality.

Added: This is the thread for bug reports ....

[EDUDE]

yes my mistake!... thanxs for your reply...

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version (v0.30.01) of BD-RB. Changes for this release:- Corrected an issue in which the SETUP checkbox for
"SD to HD (720p)" was not being set properly when
the SETUP dialog is initialized.
- Updated the maximum bitrate for BD-25 encoding to
a higher rate to lower the undersizing probability.
- Removed "--slices 4" when HDDVD_COMPLIANT is set.
- Corrected an error in initial CRF calculation on
very high bitrate encodes.
- Corrected the CRF sample size calculation for those
instances where framerate is doubling (e.g. 29.97fps
is not allowed -- and is converted to 59.94fps when
720p resizing is selected).
- AVCHD output restrictions have been removed for all
BD-25 output. BD-25 movie-only now uses the TSMUXER
"--blu-ray" option.
- Added new restrictions that are enforced when "Strict
AVCHD for BD-5/9 Movie-Only" is selected. These new
restrictions are intended to make AVCHD work on more
players by becoming more compliant with the multiple
AVCHD standards being created by camcorders. Now when
this option is set all AVCHD output is limited to
to Level 4.0, "--slices" are not included, the bitrate
is set to a 17.5Mbs maximum, and audio is always
converted to Dolby Digital (DD is the only supported
audio codec in AVCHD).
- Added a new hidden parameter for those who wish to
ignore the AVCHD requirement for DOLBY DIGITAL audio.
"OVERRIDE_AVCHD_AUDIO_LIMIT=1" will remove the "always
convert to DD" restriction and audio will be included
per the choices made in the SETUP dialog. Using this
option is not recommended in most cases.
- Strict AVCHD compliance is now the default for BD-5
or BD-9 movie-only encodes. The "FORCE_BLURAY" hidden
option has been removed. The equivalent of that
setting can be created by deselecting "Strict AVCHD
BD-5/9 Movie-Only".
- Corrected channel mapping when converting from 7.1 to
5.1 audio for AC3 reencoding.
- Updated X264.EXE in zip distribution package to the
latest (r1171) version.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[samtroy]

jdobbs, first of all congrats to the new version :thanks:.

Two small things:

1) I added AUDIO_AMPLIFY=1.0 to BD Rebuilder's ini-file because I don't want the audio to be amplified. Especially not DTS which is louder than AC3 anyway. Or is there maybe a technical reason for amplifiying the audio?

However, BD Rebuilder still creates AUD_XXX.avs files with ".Amplify(1.2)" in it. Shouldn't it be ".Amplify(1.0)" then? As if the ini parameter has no effect. I also tried AUDIO_AMPLIFY=0 to turn it off completely, but also no effect, still ".Amplify(1.2)" in the AviSynth files.. :confused:

Is this setting broken maybe?

2) Just out of curiosity: Is BD Rebuilder using the "-pad 0" parameter when reencoding the audio with Aften? This is supposed to avoid a certain 10ms delay which results normally from the audio reencoding. But I'm pretty sure u already know that.. :o

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, first of all congrats to the new version :thanks:.

Two small things:

1) I added AUDIO_AMPLIFY=1.0 to BD Rebuilder's ini-file because I don't want the audio to be amplified. Especially not DTS which is louder than AC3 anyway. Or is there maybe a technical reason for amplifiying the audio?

However, BD Rebuilder still creates AUD_XXX.avs files with ".Amplify(1.2)" in it. Shouldn't it be ".Amplify(1.0)" then? As if the ini parameter has no effect. I also tried AUDIO_AMPLIFY=0 to turn it off completely, but also no effect, still ".Amplify(1.2)" in the AviSynth files.. :confused:

Is this setting broken maybe?

2) Just out of curiosity: Is BD Rebuilder using the "-pad 0" parameter when reencoding the audio with Aften? This is supposed to avoid a certain 10ms delay which results normally from the audio reencoding. But I'm pretty sure u already know that.. :oYes it's a bug. The underscore is missing when I read it from the INI. I'll fix it for the next version. In the meantime you can set it with:

AUDIOAMPLIFY=1.0

[samtroy]

OK, thanks for checking.

Whats your opinion on that '-pad 0' Aften parameter? Does it make sense? I mean 10ms is not very much but it's an delay nonetheless, right?

[landtank]

I've had a problem twice now and I'm not experienced enough to know what I'm doing wrong. On two occations I've taken a mkv file and used tsmuxer to make a bluray disk. And then had to use this software to fit it on a DVD9 disk. The result when played on my stand alone Sony player is that the image on the screen is cut in half vertically where the left side is OK and the right side is a ghost of the left.

I've tried adjusting resolutions on the player and TV with no results.

Any help would be appreciated.

[astraub]

As i mentioned before - the original dies NOT Show those artifacts ...

[Capsbackup]

@landtank;
Is this mkv from an original Blu-Ray disc? If not, that is your problem. BD-RB is not going to correct improper Blu-Ray resolutions. You need 1920x1080 or 1280x720, etc... to start with, which is what you will get if it is from an original Blu-Ray disc. Of course, extras could be 480i/p. So if this is not from an original Blu-Ray disc, keep searching! :rolleyes:

[samtroy]

@jdobbs

I'm currently converting a BD with two DTS audiotracks (one 5.1 DTS-HD, one normal 5.1 DTS, as told by BDInfo 0.52) to AC3.

I've noticed that in both audio AviSynth-files is now (v0.30.01):

audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio

compared to older versions:

audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,5,6) : audio

Is that OK? What happened to Channels 5 and 6 :eek:?

[landtank]

@landtank;
Is this mkv from an original Blu-Ray disc? If not, that is your problem. BD-RB is not going to correct improper Blu-Ray resolutions. You need 1920x1080 or 1280x720, etc... to start with, which is what you will get if it is from an original Blu-Ray disc. Of course, extras could be 480i/p. So if this is not from an original Blu-Ray disc, keep searching! :rolleyes:

thanks for the reply.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Just to let you know that v.30.01 "HDDVD_COMPLIANT=1" produces a perfect HDDVD-compliant file.

Thank you ;>}

[drjake]

New Version Solves the Problem

This is a full backup to BD-25 or a movie-only backup? Also, what kind of player are you using?

[DVD Maniac]

Have tried several times to re-encode Independence Day (Region A) "movie only" with no luck.

Steup is:

[Status]
LABEL=ID4_US_V2
VERSION=v0.29.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=37979387904
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=37979387904
TARGET_SIZE=25165824000
REDUCTION=.662617945913487
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
COMPLETED=1
[00001]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=1000001
M2TS_TARGET=25165803644
RATE=20000
NSIZE=22487697408
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
M2TS_TARGET=20356


The rebuilder log is:
-----------------------
[12:27:21] BD Rebuilder v0.29.03 (beta)
- Source: ID4_US_V2
- Input BD size: 35.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:48.680]
- Target BD size: 23.44 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[12:27:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:27:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [12:51:47] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [12:51:47] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 208,296 frames
- Bitrate: 20,000 Kbs
- [12:51:47] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:51:48] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:36:47] Video Encode complete
- [14:36:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:43:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:58:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:58:14] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [14:58:14] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [14:58:14] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:58:16] Video Encode complete
- [14:58:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
- Can't open file: F:\ID4\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264
[14:58:16] - Failed to build structure, aborted

.

Got exactly the same result for Silence of the Lambs Region B PAL on Movie Only run. Sorry I closed it down before I had a chance to copy the Logfile (is this stored anywhere for later retrieval?)

[turbojet]

jdobbs could you please change non-strict AVCHD movie only on DVD to --avchd? Most players won't play --bluray content on DVD. The only reason according to tsmuxer changelog for --bluray is to allow VC-1 to play on Panasonic players which was probably drjake's issue.

Also with current firmwares of all known players the non-strict AVCHD movie only is fully compatible. However strict AVCHD fails to play in Funai based (Phillips, Insignia, Sylvania, etc.) and Denon players. Strict AVCHD option recent changes are good considering this mode should only be meant for playback in PowerDVD/WinDVD from HDD which only supports AC3/LPCM audio. Maybe you would consider changing the default back to non-strict AVCHD with --avchd as it's the most compliant when output is DVD.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

I'm currently converting a BD with two DTS audiotracks (one 5.1 DTS-HD, one normal 5.1 DTS, as told by BDInfo 0.52) to AC3.

I've noticed that in both audio AviSynth-files is now (v0.30.01):

audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio

compared to older versions:

audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,5,6) : audio

Is that OK? What happened to Channels 5 and 6 :eek:? The old way was incorrect. The mapping for 7.1 LPCM (which is what you get as output from NicAudio) is:

L, R, C, LS, cs1, cs2, RS, lfe

For 5.1 LPCM the mapping is:

L, R, C, LS, RS, lfe

So the correct mapping is GetChannel (audio, 1,2,3,4,7,8).

On the DTS tracks you're describing the line has no affect at all. It only makes the conversion if there are more than 6 tracks i.e. "(AudioChannels(audio) > 6)".

[jdobbs]

New Version Solves the ProblemGood, I was hoping it would.

[jdobbs]

Got exactly the same result for Silence of the Lambs Region B PAL on Movie Only run. Sorry I closed it down before I had a chance to copy the Logfile (is this stored anywhere for later retrieval?) Use the newest version. That error should have been corrected in v0.29.5.

Yes. The logfile is written to the output directory.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs could you please change non-strict AVCHD movie only on DVD to --avchd? Most players won't play --bluray content on DVD. The only reason according to tsmuxer changelog for --bluray is to allow VC-1 to play on Panasonic players which was probably drjake's issue.

Also with current firmwares of all known players the non-strict AVCHD movie only is fully compatible. However strict AVCHD fails to play in Funai based (Phillips, Insignia, Sylvania, etc.) and Denon players. Strict AVCHD option recent changes are good considering this mode should only be meant for playback in PowerDVD/WinDVD from HDD which only supports AC3/LPCM audio. Maybe you would consider changing the default back to non-strict AVCHD with --avchd as it's the most compliant when output is DVD.Hmmm... I meant for it to work that way -- but I missed it. I planned for movie-only to BD-5/9 to be written as AVCHD. Right now it outputs as "--avchd" only when "Strict" is selected" (which is on by default). I'll fix it and put out a quick release.

Are you positive about the players, even with the new settings? The whole purpose of the new setting was to make it compatible across more players.

[samtroy]

@jdobbs & turbojet

jdobbs could you please change non-strict AVCHD movie only on DVD to --avchd? Most players won't play --bluray content on DVD. The only reason according to tsmuxer changelog for --bluray is to allow VC-1 to play on Panasonic players which was probably drjake's issue.

Also with current firmwares of all known players the non-strict AVCHD movie only is fully compatible. However strict AVCHD fails to play in Funai based (Phillips, Insignia, Sylvania, etc.) and Denon players. Strict AVCHD option recent changes are good considering this mode should only be meant for playback in PowerDVD/WinDVD from HDD which only supports AC3/LPCM audio. Maybe you would consider changing the default back to non-strict AVCHD with --avchd as it's the most compliant when output is DVD.

I would agree on that. Non-strict movie-only BD9s should probably be --avchd because of compatability reasons.

Although I like the Profile 4.0 encoding *without* slices very much. From what I have read slices only use up bitrate and are not really useful. I know they are needed for 4.1. How bout a checkbox maybe where profiles 4.0/4.1 could be changed? Would that make sense?

[jdobbs]

I just updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new release of BD-RB (v0.30.02). Changes for this version:- Fixed a bug in which the AUDIO_AMPLIFY hidden INI
setting was not being read properly.
- Corrected an error in which non-strict movie-only
output to BD-5/9 was being written as "--blu-ray"
rather than "--avchd". Also made "no slices" and
"--level 4.0" restrictions to BD-5/9 movie-only
encodes even when "strict" is not selected. Reversed
the v0.30.01 change -- "strict AVCHD" is no longer
the default. I'm afraid that change may cause too
much confusion for people who have found the "sweet
spot" for their particular player (especially the
removed directories).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Sn8kbordin]

- Corrected an error in which non-strict movie-only
output to BD-5/9 was being written as "--blu-ray"
rather than "--avchd". Also made "no slices" and
"--level 4.0" restrictions to BD-5/9 movie-only
encodes even when "strict" is not selected. Reversed
the v0.30.01 change -- "strict AVCHD" is no longer
the default. I'm afraid that change may cause too
much confusion for people who have found the "sweet
spot" for their particular player (especially the
removed directories).


Does this only apply when you select Target size BD-5 and BD-9?
Or does it also apply to custom size that would fit into DL DVD?

[Sharc]

No, I didn't do any preprocessing.
Files showing the oddness (re-encoded but not resized):
00002.m2ts (Studio intro)
00125.m2ts (Segment of the main feature). In addition, all audio (DTS) and sups were kept and muxed intact for this segment, instead of being selected and re-encoded to ac3 for audio. It is noted that the 00125.m2ts belongs to the playlist for the "extended version". It is not used for the "theatre version".
The problem (no resizing to 720p and no stripping of audio and sups for mentioned segment) still persists with v0.30.02. Any clue as to why this happens?

[jdobbs]

Does this only apply when you select Target size BD-5 and BD-9?
Or does it also apply to custom size that would fit into DL DVD?Both.

[jdobbs]

The problem (no resizing to 720p and no stripping of audio and sups for mentioned segment) still persists with v0.30.02. Any clue as to why this happens? No. I'll have to look at it.

[DVD Maniac]

Use the newest version. That error should have been corrected in v0.29.5.

Yes. The logfile is written to the output directory.

I was using 30.01........i'll try 30.02 and see what happens.

[TRONDROM]

I'm going to post this again because no one seems to want to answer my question.

Quick question, I encoded a full movie back up of Punisher 2 War Zone to a BD-25. The disc loads up fine and plays in my Sony BDP-S300, but I've noticed the movie is a bit jumpy and choppy in parts, like the frame rate is stuttering. What could cause this? This is not the first time I've encountered this problem. I ended up just taking the largest M2TS file and running it through Ripbot instead and made a 20gb BDMV AVCHD file instead and burned it and it plays beautiful, but I wanted the whole bluray, extras included. What could cause BD-Rebuilder to cause stuttering of the frame rate?

[Capsbackup]

I'm going to post this again because no one seems to want to answer my question.


Not the best way to start a question you would like help with! :rolleyes:
Anyway, more info is needed, like the BD-RB log, INI, and if this is a 1080i/p file, etc.. The more info you can provide regarding this disc, the more likely someone could reply.

[GaPony]

I'm going to post this again because no one seems to want to answer my question.

Quick question, I encoded a full movie back up of Punisher 2 War Zone to a BD-25. The disc loads up fine and plays in my Sony BDP-S300, but I've noticed the movie is a bit jumpy and choppy in parts, like the frame rate is stuttering. What could cause this? This is not the first time I've encountered this problem. I ended up just taking the largest M2TS file and running it through Ripbot instead and made a 20gb BDMV AVCHD file instead and burned it and it plays beautiful, but I wanted the whole bluray, extras included. What could cause BD-Rebuilder to cause stuttering of the frame rate?

It could be a bad burn, bad media, low resources, and about a million other things. How does the BD-Rebuilder result play from the hard drive? What settings are you using in BD-Rebuilder? Are you using the latest firmware for the Sony SAP? Maybe posting the log and .ini settings would give someone something to look at, in order to help answer your question(s).

[hudsucker]

I have serious issues with reports that are looking at output size or say "it didn't fill the disc!"... in most cases it is meaningless. I'll be happy to add a zero filled file to the output to make it 24GB -- as in most cases that will do about the same to improve the quality as adding bitrate above 20000 Kbs.

This is the time for me to make a confession: With every new version of BD Rebuilder I checked the maximum output size and maximum bitrate of my reference movie `The Siege` (29.7 GB) after encoding.
I belong to the group of users who still believe that in general a higher bitrate means higher picture quality and therefore hate wasting space on a BD-25.

And what can I say - with v030.01 you finally made it!

Updated the maximum bitrate for BD-25 encoding to a higher rate to lower the undersizing probability.

A big THANK YOU for this. For the first time I was able to fill up my disc with 23.2 GB with that movie. (BTW - with v029.05 the maximum size was no more than 17.4 GB)

I use BD Rebuilder to reencode movie-only to BD-25 and now I am REALLY HAPPY to burn my movies with the maximum possible bitrate.
Believe me, on a projector screen size of 98" there are scenes where you can spot the difference between a bitrate of 19,985 kbps with v029.05 and 26,513 kbps with v030.01


@jdobbs: I really appreciate your work very much - have sent you a donation.

[samtroy]

@jdobbs

Do you have any plans for adding an 'Force a particular subtitle to ON' setting in the next versions? So far I did use BDedit for that (which is definately *not* very user-friendly ;)). There's more and more sources that need a special subtitle stream to be forced ON for foreign dialoge or other stuff..

I know there's already an option like that present in BD Rebuilder's Mode menu but it's greyed out..

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Do you have any plans for adding an 'Force a particular subtitle to ON' setting in the next versions? So far I did use BDedit for that (which is definately *not* very user-friendly ;)). There's more and more sources that need a special subtitle stream to be forced ON for foreign dialoge or other stuff..

I know there's already an option like that present in BD Rebuilder's Mode menu but it's greyed out.. Yeah, I plan to enable that eventually.

[Tongariro]

I have a problem with Pic In Pic.

I was doing LABYRINTH that has Pic-In-Pic.
As you can see the 2nd audio isn't been selected even if i choose all languages.

The result is that i can see the PIP but i no pip sound just the original.

I got the same result in the HULK.
Am i doing something wrong or missing something?
I am attaching the ini file as well.

Thanks

By the way, Great S/W .
:thanks:


[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=20
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ang;eng;enm;heb;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
SHOW_ENCODER=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=7700
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
TARGET_SIZE=23000
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
KEEP_INTERLACING=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1
CRF_ENCODING=0
MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
SD_CONVERT=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=H:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\ORIG\

[Furiousflea]

I have a problem with Pic In Pic.

I was doing LABYRINTH that has Pic-In-Pic.
As you can see the 2nd audio isn't been selected even if i choose all languages.

The result is that i can see the PIP but i no pip sound just the original.

I got the same result in the HULK.
Am i doing something wrong or missing something?
I am attaching the ini file as well.

Thanks

By the way, Great S/W .
:thanks:


[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=20
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ang;eng;enm;heb;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
SHOW_ENCODER=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=7700
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
TARGET_SIZE=23000
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
KEEP_INTERLACING=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1
CRF_ENCODING=0
MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
SD_CONVERT=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=H:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\ORIG\

Yeah, you ain't done enuf reading up.

only EAC3+ PiP audio tracks are supported. There's no free DTS-Express muxer available yet. Also if you have a Sony SAP then you need to set audio output to "mix" in the system menu of the player.

[samtroy]

jdobbs, sorry for asking again but you never answered on that:

Is BD Rebuilder using the "-pad 0" parameter when reencoding audio with Aften? From what I've read, this setting should prevent a ~10ms delay on the reencoded audio.

Or is this negligible maybe?

[drmih]

@jdobbs
It has been said that the issue with the DTS-Express is that there isn't a freeware muxer. However, I've just been playing with eac3to with hd-dvd/blu-ray Stream Extractor as a GUI, and that is capable of writing out a dts-express track in a variety of formats - so far I've tried both ac3 and wav and the audio files created play fine. Isn't it possible to extract the 2nd audio and then remux it as an ac3 or can't the flag type be changed? Sorry for hassling you about this but I'm trying to see the flaw in this.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs
It has been said that the issue with the DTS-Express is that there isn't a freeware muxer. However, I've just been playing with eac3to with hd-dvd/blu-ray Stream Extractor as a GUI, and that is capable of writing out a dts-express track in a variety of formats - so far I've tried both ac3 and wav and the audio files created play fine. Isn't it possible to extract the 2nd audio and then remux it as an ac3 or can't the flag type be changed? Sorry for hassling you about this but I'm trying to see the flaw in this.

This could be a very cool find drmih!!
I am testing a demux now, and will confirm my findings as well. Hopefully, if this works, it will allow jdobbs to have full PiP functionality regardless of audio type. :)

[jdobbs]

I have a problem with Pic In Pic.

I was doing LABYRINTH that has Pic-In-Pic.
As you can see the 2nd audio isn't been selected even if i choose all languages.

The result is that i can see the PIP but i no pip sound just the original.

I got the same result in the HULK.
Am i doing something wrong or missing something?
I am attaching the ini file as well.

Thanks

By the way, Great S/W .
:thanks:

Unfortunately there is no way right now to demux DTS-Express, which is what is used for DTS secondary audio. TSMUXER rejects it.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, sorry for asking again but you never answered on that:

Is BD Rebuilder using the "-pad 0" parameter when reencoding audio with Aften? From what I've read, this setting should prevent a ~10ms delay on the reencoded audio.

Or is this negligible maybe?Definitely negligible. 10ms is much too small to be in need of correction.

[jdobbs]

This could be a very cool find drmih!!
I am testing a demux now, and will confirm my findings as well. Hopefully, if this works, it will allow jdobbs to have full PiP functionality regardless of audio type. :)Standard AC3 or WAV can't be used for secondary audio. Only Dolby Digital Plus or DTS Express are accepted. I'm not sure if there is a freeware AC3 Plus encoder out there...

[drmih]

duplicate posting

[Capsbackup]

Standard AC3 or WAV can't be used for secondary audio. Only Dolby Digital Plus or DTS Express are accepted. I'm not sure if there is a freeware AC3 Plus encode out there...

Oh well, wishful thinking. :p

[nelly09]

[22:04:11] BD Rebuilder v0.30.01 (beta)
- Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 20.92 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:59.983]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[22:04:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:04:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (60005 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[22:08:48] - Failed to retrieve audio, abort

any help with this? the movie is invincible, tried to do a movie only to bd25, highest quality, didnt change any other settings

[tooch22]

I have an LG Blu-ray standalone player. I have been burning movie only DVD-9's that can play on computers and PS3 for the whole summer but none of them worked on the LG. Until the .30.01 release then the LG could play them, but they ran into an error about 20mins in to 3 different movies compiled under both .30.01 and 30.02 all three movies had the same error. which is that they would freeze. you can't skip over this freeze either its like the whole end of the movie is unreadable to the LG. all three of these movies play perfectly on Computers and PS3. Thanks for the great program and you're hard work.

Dan Donatucci

[setarip_old]

@tooch22 Hi!all three of these movies play perfectly on Computers and PS3.If by this you mean that all three burned discs play on computers and your PS3, I'd suggest you try running a DVD/CD cleaning disc on your standalone player...

[Aratar]

Standard AC3 or WAV can't be used for secondary audio. Only Dolby Digital Plus or DTS Express are accepted. I'm not sure if there is a freeware AC3 Plus encode out there...

Nope, otherwise I'd have already suggested to reencode to ddp a while ago :/

[Kakashi Sensei]

I came across the same problem for some reason as Nelly09 and others with the extract audio issue. But I think i know what happened at least in my case. I stopped the encode early to do something else on my PC. When i restarted the encode right away the same M2TS fails with the above error. What seems to happen is that tsmuxer.exe isn't closed properly and holds the file in the system so BD rebuilder can't reopen it again. Just ending the process in task manager then the re-encode was able to continue.

Hope this helps other people.

[Furiousflea]

Unfortunately there is no way right now to demux DTS-Express, which is what is used for DTS secondary audio. TSMUXER rejects it.

You mean mux, not demux right. EAC3To can demux it.

[Furiousflea]

Standard AC3 or WAV can't be used for secondary audio. Only Dolby Digital Plus or DTS Express are accepted. I'm not sure if there is a freeware AC3 Plus encoder out there...

The Day The Earth Stood Still (2008 version) uses standard AC3 for the PiP track :)

[jdobbs]

You mean mux, not demux right. EAC3To can demux it. Yeah, but since I use TSMUXER for both it's six of one and a half-dozen of the other. :)

[jdobbs]

The Day The Earth Stood Still (2008 version) uses standard AC3 for the PiP track :) Then it's out of spec... it has to be DD-Plus or DTS-HD LBR (Express). Are you looking at the original or a backup? It's possible that the backup (since it uses TSMUXER) is DD-Plus but is showing up as AC3 because it isn't using the higher PID that is normally associated with secondary audio.

[Edit] I just looked at my copy of the original -- and there is no secondary audio at all, only secondary video.

[Nav1]

I have to wait 5 days before I can post. Hi everyone. Jdobbs first I want to say very nice program. Question for you jdobbs. I am using Bd rebuilder 8 month now. Started using older versions 20.03 and upgrading to newer versions. Some way along versions 20.09 to 24.01 not sure which versions everything started working fine. I have 14 blu ray movies which I rebuild to BD5,than burn with Img and than play on Sony blu ray player. It was superb video quality and sound no distortion at all. And each movie took to rebuild about 7 hours (Movie Only).Since I upgrading to newer versions and now I have 30.02.There is a bug.When it finish rebuild I burn with Img and than play on Sony blu ray player somewhere along the movie the video Freeze and audio is running in the background. Never happen with older versions. Is there a way I can download the older versions to test again. Because when I download the older versions and install on my PC it says "This beta has expired. Please upgrade to a newer versions" Any suggestion Jdobbs. Thanks.

Here’s the list of blu ray movies I rebuild to BD5 (Older Versions)
Valkyrie
Pink Panther
The Code
My Bloody Valentine
Push
Underworld
International
Defiance
Wanted
Friday The 13th
Yesman
The Spirit
Seven Pounds
Body Of Lies

[drmih]

Then it's out of spec... it has to be DD-Plus or DTS-HD LBR (Express). Are you looking at the original or a backup? It's possible that the backup (since it uses TSMUXER) is DD-Plus but is showing up as AC3 because it isn't using the higher PID that is normally associated with secondary audio.

[Edit] I just looked at my copy of the original -- and there is no secondary audio at all, only secondary video.

Has it ever been tried as non-conformant? At present you either keep 'silent' PiP or exclude it. I'm guessing that PCs may well handle non-conformant streams and perhaps even some SAPs. I know it's a bit sloppy but a beta which worked on some systems with AC3 as a second audio would surely be preferable to not at all, particularly if there is unlikely to be any movement on a freeware solution in the near future.

[drmih]

The Day The Earth Stood Still (2008 version) uses standard AC3 for the PiP track :)

A stupid question but does the redone version actually work re: 2nd audio stream as ac3.

[jdobbs]

Has it ever been tried as non-conformant? At present you either keep 'silent' PiP or exclude it. I'm guessing that PCs may well handle non-conformant streams and perhaps even some SAPs. I know it's a bit sloppy but a beta which worked on some systems with AC3 as a second audio would surely be preferable to not at all, particularly if there is unlikely to be any movement on a freeware solution in the near future. It doesn't matter. I won't write a program that (knowingly) creates non-compliant streams... I'll leave that to the hackers.

My plan is to demux/remux them myself if nothing else comes along soon. But I want to avoid having to do so if possible.

[jdobbs]

I have to wait 5 days before I can post. Hi everyone. Jdobbs first I want to say very nice program. Question for you jdobbs. I am using Bd rebuilder 8 month now. Started using older versions 20.03 and upgrading to newer versions. Some way along versions 20.09 to 24.01 not sure which versions everything started working fine. I have 14 blu ray movies which I rebuild to BD5,than burn with Img and than play on Sony blu ray player. It was superb video quality and sound no distortion at all. And each movie took to rebuild about 7 hours (Movie Only).Since I upgrading to newer versions and now I have 30.02.There is a bug.When it finish rebuild I burn with Img and than play on Sony blu ray player somewhere along the movie the video Freeze and audio is running in the background. Never happen with older versions. Is there a way I can download the older versions to test again. Because when I download the older versions and install on my PC it says "This beta has expired. Please upgrade to a newer versions" Any suggestion Jdobbs. Thanks.

Here’s the list of blu ray movies I rebuild to BD5 (Older Versions)
Valkyrie
Pink Panther
The Code
My Bloody Valentine
Push
Underworld
International
Defiance
Wanted
Friday The 13th
Yesman
The Spirit
Seven Pounds
Body Of Lies I put that timeout in specifically to keep people from using older versions. This is a beta test. It doesn't make a lot of sense to test versions that are months old... if you have a bug, report it. By the way, I have a Sony Player also -- and I've not seen any problems like this. Are you sure your burner is good? Discs?

You haven't really given me anything to work with as far as helping you. Are you doing movie-only? Full? What specific disc is causing the issue? What settings are you using?

I'm sorry, and I really don't want to be rude, but this is a beta test -- I need information so I can fix current versions, not requests for old ones (which, by the way, have Bugs that have since been fixed).

[Nav1]

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm doing movies only and the burner is Lite-on. The only setting I did in ffdshow is Mpeg2 enable and VC1 disable. The movies I have problem is Crank2 (High Voltage) and Battle of Terra is animation. PS I also disable in ffdshow WMV 1/7 WMV 2/8 WMV 3/9 is that correct. No setting change in BD Rebuilder.

[turbojet]

Hmmm... I meant for it to work that way -- but I missed it. I planned for movie-only to BD-5/9 to be written as AVCHD. Right now it outputs as "--avchd" only when "Strict" is selected" (which is on by default). I'll fix it and put out a quick release.

Thanks for the new version

Are you positive about the players, even with the new settings? The whole purpose of the new setting was to make it compatible across more players.

Ya I've still been keeping up with that database and while the audio formats matter in powerdvd/windvd, empty directories have a lot more to do with playability as weird as it sounds.

A wild guess but could the newly reported freeze problems have something to do with x264's --slices or new --nal-hrd implementation as opposed to tsmuxer's nal-hrd?

Also any news on BDSup2Sub? TSMuxer sub resizing success rate is decresing greatly for me on newer titles.

[DGenerateKane]

I'm having trouble with Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest. It always fails encoding at the same spot. I've ripped it multiple times with the last three stable versions of AnyDVD HD, and have tried two versions of BD-RE. Anyone know what my problem is? I know others have been successful so I'm hoping whatever my problem is can be fixed easily.

[23:10:23] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2
- Input BD size: 39.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:26.089]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:10:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:10:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [23:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 18)
- [23:10:26] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [23:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:10:27] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:10:27] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [23:10:29] Reencoding: VID_00013 (2 of 18)
- [23:10:29] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 217 frames
- [23:10:29] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:10:33] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [23:10:34] Reencoding: VID_00019 (3 of 18)
- [23:10:34] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 298 frames
- [23:10:34] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:10:41] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [23:10:42] Reencoding: VID_00027 (4 of 18)
- [23:10:42] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 393 frames
- [23:10:42] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:10:50] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [23:10:53] Reencoding: VID_00024 (5 of 18)
- [23:10:53] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,689 frames
- [23:10:53] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:11:25] Video Encode complete
- [23:11:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:11:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:11:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [23:11:29] Reencoding: VID_00018 (6 of 18)
- [23:11:29] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,176 frames
- [23:11:29] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:11:50] Video Encode complete
- [23:11:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:11:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:11:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [23:11:54] Reencoding: VID_00026 (7 of 18)
- [23:11:54] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,537 frames
- [23:11:54] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:12:28] Video Encode complete
- [23:12:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:12:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:12:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [23:12:32] Reencoding: VID_00010 (8 of 18)
- [23:12:32] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,057 frames
- [23:12:32] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:13:19] Video Encode complete
- [23:13:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:13:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:13:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [23:13:24] Reencoding: VID_00022 (9 of 18)
- [23:13:24] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,160 frames
- [23:13:24] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:14:02] Video Encode complete
- [23:14:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:14:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:14:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [23:14:07] Reencoding: VID_00012 (10 of 18)
- [23:14:07] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,824 frames
- [23:14:07] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:14:41] Video Encode complete
- [23:14:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:14:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:14:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [23:14:48] Reencoding: VID_00021 (11 of 18)
- [23:14:48] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,599 frames
- [23:14:48] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:16:04] Video Encode complete
- [23:16:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:16:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:16:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [23:16:13] Reencoding: VID_00017 (12 of 18)
- [23:16:13] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,697 frames
- [23:16:13] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:17:20] Video Encode complete
- [23:17:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:17:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:17:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [23:17:31] Reencoding: VID_00015 (13 of 18)
- [23:17:31] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,586 frames
- [23:17:31] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:18:41] Video Encode complete
- [23:18:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:18:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:18:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [23:18:52] Reencoding: VID_00016 (14 of 18)
- [23:18:52] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,612 frames
- [23:18:52] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:19:56] Video Encode complete
- [23:19:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:19:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:19:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [23:20:07] Reencoding: VID_00014 (15 of 18)
- [23:20:07] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,683 frames
- [23:20:07] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:21:13] Video Encode complete
- [23:21:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:21:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:21:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [23:21:35] Reencoding: VID_00023 (16 of 18)
- [23:21:35] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 14,173 frames
- [23:21:35] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:26:37] Video Encode complete
- [23:26:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:26:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:26:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [23:27:38] Reencoding: VID_00025 (17 of 18)
- [23:27:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 42,717 frames
- [23:27:38] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:42:53] Video Encode complete
- [23:42:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:42:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:43:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [23:52:14] Reencoding: VID_00001 (18 of 18)
- [23:52:14] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 216,720 frames
- Bitrate: 7,583 Kbs
- [23:52:14] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:52:14] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[23:55:17] - Failed video encode, aborted

[jdobbs]

I'm having trouble with Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest. It always fails encoding at the same spot. I've ripped it multiple times with the last three stable versions of AnyDVD HD, and have tried two versions of BD-RE. Anyone know what my problem is? I know others have been successful so I'm hoping whatever my problem is can be fixed easily.I'll check it out.

[marius1]

[22:04:11] BD Rebuilder v0.30.01 (beta)
- Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 20.92 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:59.983]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[22:04:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:04:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (60005 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[22:08:48] - Failed to retrieve audio, abort

any help with this? the movie is invincible, tried to do a movie only to bd25, highest quality, didnt change any other settings

I'm having the same problem with I Love You Man, except my log is missing the "AV frame too large" line.

[By-Tor]

I'm having trouble with Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest. It always fails encoding at the same spot. I've ripped it multiple times with the last three stable versions of AnyDVD HD, and have tried two versions of BD-RE. Anyone know what my problem is? I know others have been successful so I'm hoping whatever my problem is can be fixed easily.

[23:10:23] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2
- Input BD size: 39.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:26.089]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:10:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:10:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [23:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 18)
- [23:10:26] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [23:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:10:27] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:10:27] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [23:10:29] Reencoding: VID_00013 (2 of 18)
- [23:10:29] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 217 frames
- [23:10:29] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:10:33] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [23:10:34] Reencoding: VID_00019 (3 of 18)
- [23:10:34] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 298 frames
- [23:10:34] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:10:41] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [23:10:42] Reencoding: VID_00027 (4 of 18)
- [23:10:42] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 393 frames
- [23:10:42] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:10:50] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [23:10:53] Reencoding: VID_00024 (5 of 18)
- [23:10:53] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,689 frames
- [23:10:53] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:11:25] Video Encode complete
- [23:11:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:11:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:11:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [23:11:29] Reencoding: VID_00018 (6 of 18)
- [23:11:29] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,176 frames
- [23:11:29] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:11:50] Video Encode complete
- [23:11:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:11:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:11:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [23:11:54] Reencoding: VID_00026 (7 of 18)
- [23:11:54] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,537 frames
- [23:11:54] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:12:28] Video Encode complete
- [23:12:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:12:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:12:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [23:12:32] Reencoding: VID_00010 (8 of 18)
- [23:12:32] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,057 frames
- [23:12:32] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:13:19] Video Encode complete
- [23:13:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:13:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:13:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [23:13:24] Reencoding: VID_00022 (9 of 18)
- [23:13:24] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,160 frames
- [23:13:24] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:14:02] Video Encode complete
- [23:14:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:14:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:14:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [23:14:07] Reencoding: VID_00012 (10 of 18)
- [23:14:07] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,824 frames
- [23:14:07] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:14:41] Video Encode complete
- [23:14:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:14:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:14:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [23:14:48] Reencoding: VID_00021 (11 of 18)
- [23:14:48] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,599 frames
- [23:14:48] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:16:04] Video Encode complete
- [23:16:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:16:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:16:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [23:16:13] Reencoding: VID_00017 (12 of 18)
- [23:16:13] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,697 frames
- [23:16:13] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:17:20] Video Encode complete
- [23:17:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:17:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:17:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [23:17:31] Reencoding: VID_00015 (13 of 18)
- [23:17:31] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,586 frames
- [23:17:31] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:18:41] Video Encode complete
- [23:18:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:18:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:18:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [23:18:52] Reencoding: VID_00016 (14 of 18)
- [23:18:52] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,612 frames
- [23:18:52] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:19:56] Video Encode complete
- [23:19:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:19:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:19:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [23:20:07] Reencoding: VID_00014 (15 of 18)
- [23:20:07] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,683 frames
- [23:20:07] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:21:13] Video Encode complete
- [23:21:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:21:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:21:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [23:21:35] Reencoding: VID_00023 (16 of 18)
- [23:21:35] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 14,173 frames
- [23:21:35] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:26:37] Video Encode complete
- [23:26:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:26:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:26:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [23:27:38] Reencoding: VID_00025 (17 of 18)
- [23:27:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 42,717 frames
- [23:27:38] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:42:53] Video Encode complete
- [23:42:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:42:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:43:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [23:52:14] Reencoding: VID_00001 (18 of 18)
- [23:52:14] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 216,720 frames
- Bitrate: 7,583 Kbs
- [23:52:14] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:52:14] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[23:55:17] - Failed video encode, aborted



I had this problem doing that film and was advised to use DVDFAB HDDcrypter and it worked for me I had tried like you
doing various rips with no success until i used dvdfab, hope this helps ..... i think the posts where about 219 in forum

[GaPony]

I put POTC 2 (Dead Man's Chest) in to run before going to bed last night and it completed without any issues.. Final output was 21.4gb.

-----------------------
[02:34:11] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2
- Input BD size: 39.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:26.089]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[02:34:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:34:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [02:34:14] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 18)
- [02:34:14] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [02:34:14] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:34:15] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:34:15] Video Encode complete
- [02:34:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:34:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:34:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [02:34:17] Reencoding: VID_00013 (2 of 18)
- [02:34:17] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 217 frames
- [02:34:17] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:34:21] Video Encode complete
- [02:34:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:34:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:34:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [02:34:22] Reencoding: VID_00019 (3 of 18)
- [02:34:22] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 298 frames
- [02:34:22] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:34:28] Video Encode complete
- [02:34:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:34:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:34:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [02:34:30] Reencoding: VID_00027 (4 of 18)
- [02:34:30] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 393 frames
- [02:34:30] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:34:38] Video Encode complete
- [02:34:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:34:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:34:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [02:34:40] Reencoding: VID_00024 (5 of 18)
- [02:34:40] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,689 frames
- [02:34:40] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:35:12] Video Encode complete
- [02:35:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:35:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:35:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [02:35:15] Reencoding: VID_00018 (6 of 18)
- [02:35:15] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,176 frames
- [02:35:15] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:35:36] Video Encode complete
- [02:35:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:35:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:35:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [02:35:40] Reencoding: VID_00026 (7 of 18)
- [02:35:40] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,537 frames
- [02:35:40] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:36:12] Video Encode complete
- [02:36:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:36:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:36:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [02:36:15] Reencoding: VID_00010 (8 of 18)
- [02:36:15] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,057 frames
- [02:36:15] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:37:02] Video Encode complete
- [02:37:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:37:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:37:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [02:37:06] Reencoding: VID_00022 (9 of 18)
- [02:37:06] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,160 frames
- [02:37:06] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:37:44] Video Encode complete
- [02:37:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:37:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:37:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [02:37:49] Reencoding: VID_00012 (10 of 18)
- [02:37:49] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,824 frames
- [02:37:49] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:38:22] Video Encode complete
- [02:38:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:38:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:38:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [02:38:29] Reencoding: VID_00021 (11 of 18)
- [02:38:29] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,599 frames
- [02:38:29] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:39:42] Video Encode complete
- [02:39:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:39:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:39:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [02:39:51] Reencoding: VID_00017 (12 of 18)
- [02:39:51] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,697 frames
- [02:39:51] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:40:56] Video Encode complete
- [02:40:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:40:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:40:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [02:41:06] Reencoding: VID_00015 (13 of 18)
- [02:41:06] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,586 frames
- [02:41:06] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:42:15] Video Encode complete
- [02:42:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:42:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:42:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [02:42:25] Reencoding: VID_00016 (14 of 18)
- [02:42:25] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,612 frames
- [02:42:25] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:43:27] Video Encode complete
- [02:43:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:43:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:43:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [02:43:37] Reencoding: VID_00014 (15 of 18)
- [02:43:37] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,683 frames
- [02:43:37] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:44:43] Video Encode complete
- [02:44:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:44:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:44:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [02:45:03] Reencoding: VID_00023 (16 of 18)
- [02:45:03] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 14,173 frames
- [02:45:03] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:49:52] Video Encode complete
- [02:49:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:49:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:49:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [02:50:47] Reencoding: VID_00025 (17 of 18)
- [02:50:47] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 42,717 frames
- [02:50:47] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [03:05:13] Video Encode complete
- [03:05:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:05:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:05:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [03:13:20] Reencoding: VID_00001 (18 of 18)
- [03:13:20] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 216,720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,489 Kbs
- [03:13:21] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:26:26] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:13:18] Video Encode complete
- [10:13:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:13:18] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:23:03]PHASE ONE complete
[10:23:03]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:23:03] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:23:29] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[10:23:29]JOB: PIRATES2 finished.

[DGenerateKane]

I had this problem doing that film and was advised to use DVDFAB HDDcrypter and it worked for me I had tried like you
doing various rips with no success until i used dvdfab, hope this helps ..... i think the posts where about 219 in forum

Same problem at the same spot, wondering if there is a problem with the disc at this point.

[jdobbs]

Same problem at the same spot, wondering if there is a problem with the disc at this point. I ripped it with AnyDVD and it worked fine.

[dragonknight]

The audio on the movie is out of sync and does not match up with scenes. i can't even make out what is being said. also the org. rip with anydvdhd plays fine.


[23:33:44] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: OBSERVE_AND_REPORT
- Input BD size: 20.28 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:36:10.110]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[23:33:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:33:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [23:33:51] Reencoding: VID_00011 (1 of 27)
- [23:34:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [23:34:02] Reencoding: VID_00015 (2 of 27)
- [23:34:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [23:34:13] Reencoding: VID_00018 (3 of 27)
- [23:34:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [23:34:25] Reencoding: VID_00010 (4 of 27)
- [23:34:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [23:34:31] Reencoding: VID_00021 (5 of 27)
- [23:34:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [23:34:39] Reencoding: VID_00023 (6 of 27)
- [23:34:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [23:34:49] Reencoding: VID_00020 (7 of 27)
- [23:34:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [23:34:59] Reencoding: VID_00004 (8 of 27)
- [23:35:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [23:35:10] Reencoding: VID_00024 (9 of 27)
- [23:35:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [23:35:23] Reencoding: VID_00008 (10 of 27)
- [23:35:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [23:35:36] Reencoding: VID_00019 (11 of 27)
- [23:35:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [23:35:52] Reencoding: VID_00013 (12 of 27)
- [23:36:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [23:36:08] Reencoding: VID_00017 (13 of 27)
- [23:36:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [23:36:26] Reencoding: VID_00014 (14 of 27)
- [23:36:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [23:36:44] Reencoding: VID_00012 (15 of 27)
- [23:37:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [23:37:04] Reencoding: VID_00005 (16 of 27)
- [23:37:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [23:37:30] Reencoding: VID_00007 (17 of 27)
- [23:37:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [23:37:57] Reencoding: VID_00016 (18 of 27)
- [23:38:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [23:38:28] Reencoding: VID_00022 (19 of 27)
- [23:39:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [23:39:02] Reencoding: VID_00028 (20 of 27)
- [23:39:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [23:39:38] Reencoding: VID_00006 (21 of 27)
- [23:40:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [23:40:17] Reencoding: VID_00029 (22 of 27)
- [23:41:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [23:41:14] Reencoding: VID_00009 (23 of 27)
- [23:41:14] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [23:46:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [23:46:14] Reencoding: VID_00027 (24 of 27)
- [23:47:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [23:47:31] Reencoding: VID_00026 (25 of 27)
- [23:48:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [23:48:59] Reencoding: VID_00025 (26 of 27)
- [23:51:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [23:56:20] Reencoding: VID_00000 (27 of 27)
- [23:56:20] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
[03:28:43]PHASE ONE complete
[03:28:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [03:28:43] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[03:28:56] - Encode and Rebuild complete

[DGenerateKane]

I ripped it with AnyDVD and it worked fine.

I'm going to get another copy and try again soon.

[jdobbs]

The audio on the movie is out of sync and does not match up with scenes. i can't even make out what is being said. also the org. rip with anydvdhd plays fine. I'll take a look at it -- but having seen "Observe and Report" I might want to call this a hidden feature. You may end up thanking BD Rebuilder for saving you an hour and a half of your life.

[dragonknight]

I'll take a look at it -- but having seen "Observe and Report" I might want to call this a hidden feature. You may end up thanking BD Rebuilder for saving you an hour and a half of your life.


ok thanks and i am guessing that this wasn't a good movie?

[chudm]

ok thanks and i am guessing that this wasn't a good movie?

pretty lame! maybe worst seth rogen movie ever made! :p

anyway sorry for the offstopic!

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the new version



Ya I've still been keeping up with that database and while the audio formats matter in powerdvd/windvd, empty directories have a lot more to do with playability as weird as it sounds.

A wild guess but could the newly reported freeze problems have something to do with x264's --slices or new --nal-hrd implementation as opposed to tsmuxer's nal-hrd?

Also any news on BDSup2Sub? TSMuxer sub resizing success rate is decresing greatly for me on newer titles. I'm not going to use it. I don't want a dependency on the java engine built it. I'm in the process of writing my own code to resize the subtitles -- it's almost done.

[jdobbs]

pretty lame! maybe worst seth rogen movie ever made! :p

anyway sorry for the offstopic!It's could be called "Paul Blart, Mall Cop II" -- it's hard to believe that two studios could come up with the same terrible idea at almost the same time.

Too bad -- I normally like Seth Rogen.

[dragonknight]

The org. (NOTORIOUS BIG) rip with anydvdhd plays back fine.sorry for the off topic question but what firmware is your sony bdp s360 running and did you have any playback issues after you update it? i got the following error message:

[00:14:33] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: NOTORIOUS_BIG
- Input BD size: 41.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:48:58.370]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[00:14:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:14:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00157]
- [00:14:45] Reencoding: VID_00157 (1 of 86)
- [00:14:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [00:14:55] Reencoding: VID_00100 (2 of 86)
- [00:15:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00308]
- [00:15:03] Reencoding: VID_00308 (3 of 86)
- [00:15:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00306]
- [00:15:23] Reencoding: VID_00306 (4 of 86)
- [00:15:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00310]
- [00:15:47] Reencoding: VID_00310 (5 of 86)
- [00:16:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00314]
- [00:16:12] Reencoding: VID_00314 (6 of 86)
- [00:16:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00352]
- [00:16:41] Reencoding: VID_00352 (7 of 86)
- [00:16:41] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:17:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [00:17:24] Reencoding: VID_00001 (8 of 86)
- [00:17:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00350]
- [00:17:41] Reencoding: VID_00350 (9 of 86)
- [00:17:41] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:18:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00312]
- [00:18:45] Reencoding: VID_00312 (10 of 86)
- [00:19:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00313]
- [00:19:22] Reencoding: VID_00313 (11 of 86)
- [00:19:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00398]
- [00:19:58] Reencoding: VID_00398 (12 of 86)
- [00:21:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00397]
- [00:21:17] Reencoding: VID_00397 (13 of 86)
- [00:22:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00393]
- [00:22:37] Reencoding: VID_00393 (14 of 86)
- [00:23:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00370]
- [00:23:59] Reencoding: VID_00370 (15 of 86)
- [00:23:59] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:24:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00394]
- [00:24:18] Reencoding: VID_00394 (16 of 86)
- [00:25:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00374]
- [00:25:49] Reencoding: VID_00374 (17 of 86)
- [00:26:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00369]
- [00:26:14] Reencoding: VID_00369 (18 of 86)
- [00:26:14] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:26:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00340]
- [00:26:41] Reencoding: VID_00340 (19 of 86)
- [00:26:41] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:27:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00399]
- [00:27:56] Reencoding: VID_00399 (20 of 86)
- [00:29:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
- [00:29:34] Reencoding: VID_00328 (21 of 86)
- [00:29:34] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:30:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00307]
- [00:31:00] Reencoding: VID_00307 (22 of 86)
- [00:31:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [00:31:52] Reencoding: VID_00003 (23 of 86)
- [00:32:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00319]
- [00:32:19] Reencoding: VID_00319 (24 of 86)
- [00:32:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00309]
- [00:32:45] Reencoding: VID_00309 (25 of 86)
- [00:33:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00366]
- [00:33:36] Reencoding: VID_00366 (26 of 86)
- [00:33:36] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:33:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00364]
- [00:34:04] Reencoding: VID_00364 (27 of 86)
- [00:34:04] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:34:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00358]
- [00:34:33] Reencoding: VID_00358 (28 of 86)
- [00:34:33] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:34:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00344]
- [00:35:03] Reencoding: VID_00344 (29 of 86)
- [00:35:03] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:36:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00316]
- [00:36:40] Reencoding: VID_00316 (30 of 86)
- [00:37:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00359]
- [00:37:38] Reencoding: VID_00359 (31 of 86)
- [00:37:38] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:38:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00346]
- [00:38:10] Reencoding: VID_00346 (32 of 86)
- [00:38:10] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:39:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00305]
- [00:39:41] Reencoding: VID_00305 (33 of 86)
- [00:40:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00311]
- [00:40:17] Reencoding: VID_00311 (34 of 86)
- [00:41:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00330]
- [00:41:22] Reencoding: VID_00330 (35 of 86)
- [00:41:22] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:43:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00392]
- [00:43:08] Reencoding: VID_00392 (36 of 86)
- [00:45:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00395]
- [00:45:37] Reencoding: VID_00395 (37 of 86)
- [00:48:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00322]
- [00:48:13] Reencoding: VID_00322 (38 of 86)
- [00:48:13] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:50:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00355]
- [00:50:24] Reencoding: VID_00355 (39 of 86)
- [00:50:24] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:50:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00342]
- [00:51:06] Reencoding: VID_00342 (40 of 86)
- [00:51:06] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:53:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00332]
- [00:53:20] Reencoding: VID_00332 (41 of 86)
- [00:53:20] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:55:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00360]
- [00:55:26] Reencoding: VID_00360 (42 of 86)
- [00:55:26] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:56:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00338]
- [00:56:13] Reencoding: VID_00338 (43 of 86)
- [00:56:13] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:58:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00365]
- [00:58:26] Reencoding: VID_00365 (44 of 86)
- [00:58:26] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:59:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00337]
- [00:59:15] Reencoding: VID_00337 (45 of 86)
- [00:59:15] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:01:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00327]
- [01:01:39] Reencoding: VID_00327 (46 of 86)
- [01:01:39] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:04:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00367]
- [01:04:32] Reencoding: VID_00367 (47 of 86)
- [01:04:32] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:05:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00336]
- [01:05:24] Reencoding: VID_00336 (48 of 86)
- [01:05:24] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:08:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00341]
- [01:08:12] Reencoding: VID_00341 (49 of 86)
- [01:08:12] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:11:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00372]
- [01:11:14] Reencoding: VID_00372 (50 of 86)
- [01:14:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00347]
- [01:14:40] Reencoding: VID_00347 (51 of 86)
- [01:14:40] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:17:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00348]
- [01:17:49] Reencoding: VID_00348 (52 of 86)
- [01:17:49] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:20:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00333]
- [01:21:04] Reencoding: VID_00333 (53 of 86)
- [01:21:04] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:23:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00363]
- [01:24:03] Reencoding: VID_00363 (54 of 86)
- [01:24:03] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:27:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00315]
- [01:27:22] Reencoding: VID_00315 (55 of 86)
- [01:31:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00368]
- [01:31:20] Reencoding: VID_00368 (56 of 86)
- [01:31:20] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:34:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00373]
- [01:35:02] Reencoding: VID_00373 (57 of 86)
- [01:38:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00371]
- [01:39:13] Reencoding: VID_00371 (58 of 86)
- [01:43:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00396]
- [01:43:24] Reencoding: VID_00396 (59 of 86)
- [01:53:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00331]
- [01:53:59] Reencoding: VID_00331 (60 of 86)
- [01:53:59] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:57:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00304]
- [01:57:57] Reencoding: VID_00304 (61 of 86)
- [02:05:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00343]
- [02:06:08] Reencoding: VID_00343 (62 of 86)
- [02:06:08] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [02:10:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00324]
- [02:10:54] Reencoding: VID_00324 (63 of 86)
- [02:10:54] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [02:15:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00362]
- [02:15:55] Reencoding: VID_00362 (64 of 86)
- [02:15:55] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [02:20:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00356]
- [02:21:20] Reencoding: VID_00356 (65 of 86)
- [02:21:20] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [02:26:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00303]
- [02:26:57] Reencoding: VID_00303 (66 of 86)
- [02:36:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00334]
- [02:37:23] Reencoding: VID_00334 (67 of 86)
- [02:37:23] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [02:42:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00361]
- [02:43:20] Reencoding: VID_00361 (68 of 86)
- [02:43:20] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [02:50:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00321]
- [02:50:50] Reencoding: VID_00321 (69 of 86)
- [02:50:50] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [02:58:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00302]
- [02:58:46] Reencoding: VID_00302 (70 of 86)
- [03:20:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00301]
- [03:21:04] Reencoding: VID_00301 (71 of 86)
- [03:43:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00349]
- [03:43:41] Reencoding: VID_00349 (72 of 86)
- [03:43:41] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [03:51:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00339]
- [03:52:08] Reencoding: VID_00339 (73 of 86)
- [03:52:08] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [03:59:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00325]
- [04:00:07] Reencoding: VID_00325 (74 of 86)
- [04:00:07] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:08:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00351]
- [04:09:35] Reencoding: VID_00351 (75 of 86)
- [04:09:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:19:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00381]
- [04:20:03] Reencoding: VID_00381 (76 of 86)
- [04:20:03] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:31:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00383]
- [04:32:38] Reencoding: VID_00383 (77 of 86)
- [04:32:38] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:45:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00323]
- [04:46:23] Reencoding: VID_00323 (78 of 86)
- [04:46:23] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:59:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00354]
- Error in attempt to MKVMERGE.
[05:00:43] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[equad]

Hey,
Using a BD25 setting for resizing my blue ray. I have tried BD-25 and Custom size. The encoding is working, but i am getting total movie size of 5-10GB from a 30+GB original file. I feel that it should be a little closer to 22GB... Anyways u have tried encoding full movie and movie only. Also tried highest quality instead of high with same results. Also tried 3 different BD's.


[Status]

LABEL=DRIVE_2
VERSION=v0.30.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=35409180672
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=35409180672
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.694427454500351
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=24589107200
RATE=19585
NSIZE=5221109760
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

""
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
""
Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
""
[18:57:04] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:57:04]JOB: DRIVE_2 finished.

"C:\Users\equad\Desktop\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\USERS\EQUAD\DESKTOP\BD2\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset slow --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 19585 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "C:\USERS\EQUAD\DESKTOP\BD2\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "C:\USERS\EQUAD\DESKTOP\BD2\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.MKV"

Total size 8.87GB

[nelly09]

The audio on the movie is out of sync and does not match up with scenes. i can't even make out what is being said. also the org. rip with anydvdhd plays fine.

in my experience, ive rebuild alot of movies that had audio sync issues, i found out that it was the rip, when i looked at the properties of all the movies i did with audi sync issues they were ripped on the same day and i remember ripping with my laptop onto an external hdd with external BD burner, then i just re ripped it with the burner in my pc connected via sata and the rebuild came out fine. Off topic question: jdobbs, are you able to rebuild every BD movie with your PC?

[dragonknight]

in my experience, ive rebuild alot of movies that had audio sync issues, i found out that it was the rip, when i looked at the properties of all the movies i did with audi sync issues they were ripped on the same day and i remember ripping with my laptop onto an external hdd with external BD burner, then i just re ripped it with the burner in my pc connected via sata and the rebuild came out fine.


i have tryed re ripping and had no luck. it still came out the same.

[klas]

For the first time this has happened to me, resumming in the second pass is stopped.That does not happen without resuming.

This is the result

07:49:35] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: THE.WARRIORS
- Input BD size: 20,92 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:42:08.351]
- Target BD size: 7,96 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[07:49:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:49:36] Reencoding: VID_00003 (13 of 13)
- [07:49:36] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 135.216 frames
- Bitrate: 8.589 Kbs
- [07:49:36] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[07:49:39] - Failed video encode, aborted

this is the ini
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8152
TARGET_SIZE=8152
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
VERBOSE_STATUS=1

[DK]

The audio on the movie is out of sync and does not match up with scenes. i can't even make out what is being said. also the org. rip with anydvdhd plays fine.


I experienced a similar error with KNOWING (region 2).

BD-RB did for some reason include the studio intro logo as video BUT did not add the soundstream of that logo.

Instead the audio from the main title started with the intro and so the entire film was completely out of sync.

[cwh060]

Hey,
Using a BD25 setting for resizing my blue ray. I have tried BD-25 and Custom size. The encoding is working, but i am getting total movie size of 5-10GB from a 30+GB original file. I feel that it should be a little closer to 22GB... Anyways u have tried encoding full movie and movie only. Also tried highest quality instead of high with same results. Also tried 3 different BD's.
[/B][/I][/U]

I have a similar problem with Fast_Furious. Using BD version 03002, the original m2ts is 26G when run through encoding to BD25, the main movie is now 6G. I tried an earlier version but something keep crashing on my system and causing a reboot and BSOD.

Quite strange, first time it's ever happened. Not at home so can't post log or last cmd.

cwh

[equad]

I have a similar problem with Fast_Furious. Using BD version 03002, the original m2ts is 26G when run through encoding to BD25, the main movie is now 6G. I tried an earlier version but something keep crashing on my system and causing a reboot and BSOD.

Quite strange, first time it's ever happened. Not at home so can't post log or last cmd.

cwh

Hmmm, yea i was able to fully copy movies on older versions to 20-23GB, but that is on my other computer so i did not want to relate it to the problem on this computer.

[cwh060]

Hmmm, yea i was able to fully copy movies on older versions to 20-23GB, but that is on my other computer so i did not want to relate it to the problem on this computer.

I am using the same computer, Vista with an i920 x64. The earlier versions did not compress the main movie quite so much. The extras when looking at them are only compressed by ~10-20%, while the main is compressed about 450%. I did a back up of State of Play, Kill Bill 02 and Watchmen using 02905 and everything was normal.

I do not have any extra settings, just using whatever BDRB comes with when loading up. Only thing I do is select the output BD25 a working directory and let it go.

cwh

[jdobbs]

If you experience an undersize -- please send or post in a zip:

1. The .INF and .INI file.
2. The log file (complete).
3. The .stats file of the main movie.
4. Any special settings of "unusual" processing.

Otherwise I can't help, and it's a waste of a post to report it.

Thanks.

Hundreds of encodes... and not a single undersize from my end... what are you doing differently?

[jdobbs]

in my experience, ive rebuild alot of movies that had audio sync issues, i found out that it was the rip, when i looked at the properties of all the movies i did with audi sync issues they were ripped on the same day and i remember ripping with my laptop onto an external hdd with external BD burner, then i just re ripped it with the burner in my pc connected via sata and the rebuild came out fine. Off topic question: jdobbs, are you able to rebuild every BD movie with your PC? Yes. If I ever find one that won't rebuild, I figure out what is wrong and fix it immediately. The only issue I personally can confirm right now is if I try to do a 1280x720 resize. There is an problem in which TSMUXER bombs when trying to resize some SUPs. I'm fixing that by resizing it myself.

[cwh060]

If you experience an undersize -- please send or post in a zip:

1. The .INF file.
2. The log file (complete).
3. The .stats file of the main movie.
4. Any special settings of "unusual" processing.

Otherwise I can't help, and it's a waste of a post to report it. Agree.

I am out of town right now, if someone hasn't posted this information before my return later this week, I will send something.

I too have done, many, maybe not hundreds, and this is the first time I have ever experiened a problem. I don't have anything special added into the .INF file, just installed 03002 and tried Fast Furious, set the output to 25g.

By the way, BDRBv is a great little program. I've used DVDRebuilder for years. One of the best software programs I've ever purchased.


cwh

[equad]

If you experience an undersize -- please send or post in a zip:

1. The .INF and .INI file.
2. The log file (complete).
3. The .stats file of the main movie.
4. Any special settings of "unusual" processing.

Otherwise I can't help, and it's a waste of a post to report it.

Thanks.

Hundreds of encodes... and not a single undersize from my end... what are you doing differently?

Yea i have done about 30 on my other computer with no problem. Just though you may have an idea. I am going to play around with it and will post that all up if i can't figure it out in the next few days. THX

[allright]

Using BD-RB v0.30.02 and trying to do The X-Files I Want to believe region B (Full Movie), but got the following error:

OS: Windows Vista 64 bit
FFDSHOW rev. 2661 (7 feb. 2009)
Haali: 1.9.42.1


[01:12:15] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: THE.X-FILES.I.WANT.TO.BELIEVE.GER.DC.BLU-RAY.1080P.AVC.DTS-HD.5.1
- Input BD size: 42,52 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:26.751]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[01:12:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:12:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [01:13:03] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 35)
- [01:13:03] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:20:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: D:\THE.X-FILES.I.WANT.TO.BELIEVE.GER.DC.BLU-RAY.1080P.AVC.DTS-HD.5.1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: D:\THE.X-FILES.I.WANT.TO.BELIEVE.GER.DC.BLU-RAY.1080P.AVC.DTS-HD.5.1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
[01:20:50] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=THE.X-FILES.I.WANT.TO.BELIEVE.GER.DC.BLU-RAY.1080P.AVC.DTS-HD.5.1
VERSION=v0.30.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45654543097
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=39120009216
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.449455776503465
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=dan;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
[00001]
AUDIO=1001110
PGS=11111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=267118428
RATE=4811
NSIZE=256536576
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00002]
AUDIO=0000000
PGS=

[samtroy]

Can someone please tell me how seamless branching disks (like WALL-E) are done correctly with BD Rebuilder?

When choosing "Movie-Only" mode BD Rebuilder shows lots of different videostreams which can not be unchecked or deleted before starting the process.

Even after choosing another main title in the Alternate Playlist menu the other videostreams are still present and cannot be deleted.. :confused:

Is this some kind of playlist parsing bug?

[jdobbs]

Can someone please tell me how seamless branching disks (like WALL-E) are done correctly with BD Rebuilder?

When choosing "Movie-Only" mode BD Rebuilder shows lots of different videostreams which can not be unchecked or deleted before starting the process.

Even after choosing another main title in the Alternate Playlist menu the other videostreams are still present and cannot be deleted.. :confused:

Is this some kind of playlist parsing bug? No. It's not a bug. It's how BD works. An M2TS can be a part of any of a number of MPLS files. If you remove them, you remove part of the movie. In "WALL-E" it is a language thing. For example, when a page of a book shows up in the movie, and you have chosen the MPLS that represents the French version, the displayed page (during playback) will be in French.

[dragonknight]

hey jdobbs i posted a error that i am getting with NOTORIOUS BIG on the page before this one and was wondering if you looked at it and can give me some in sight on it.

[Wolffe]

I've successfully ripped (movie only) quite a few of my blu-rays. So far, the only one that has prevented me from being able to rip it has been WALL-E.

[21:19:18] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: WALL-E
- Input BD size: 22.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:11.927]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:19:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:19:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file D:\00000+00024+00001+00025+00002+00026+00003+00027+00004+00028+00005+00029+00006+00093+
00007+00031+00008+00032+00009+00033+00010+00034+00011+00035+00012+00036+00013+00037+00014+00038+00015+00039+
00016+00040+00017+00041+00018+00042+00019+00043+00020+00044+00021+00097+00022+00094.track_4352.dts
[21:19:19] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

That path name for that output file is just way too long. I've done quite a few searches, and while I've found maybe 2 or 3 posts with similar issues... I haven't seen a workaround yet.

Is there anything I can do to get around this? It looks to me like that is a temporary file so the actual file name probably doesn't matter.

[GaPony]

A movie only copy of WALL-E should be a piece of cake... I've copied this movie as movie only, countless times with various versions of BD Rebuilder. Try it with Strict AVCHD checked, AC3 audio at default, and uncheck the subtitles... unless you need them. My copy is from a Region 1 disc.

This movie was problematic for the first few versions, but it wan't too far into the process before it started copying.

[samtroy]

OK, thanks for your answers.

I've tried starting the job with the correct playlist (00081 I hope) and *lots* of videofiles in the stream window.

But now I have exactly the same problem like Wolffe two postings up:

[10:52:51] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: MOVIE
- Input BD size: 24.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:11.927]
- Target BD size: 8.11 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[10:52:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:52:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file D:\WORKFILES\00000+00024+00001+00025+00002+00026+00003+00027+00004+00028+00005+00029+00006+
00030+00007+00031+00008+00032+00009+00033+00010+00034+00011+00035+00012+00036+00013+00037+00014+00038+00015+00039+
00016+00040+00017+00041+00018+00042+00019+00043+00020+00044+00021+00045+50202+00023.track_4352.dts
[10:52:53] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

:confused::confused:

[jdobbs]

I've successfully ripped (movie only) quite a few of my blu-rays. So far, the only one that has prevented me from being able to rip it has been WALL-E.

[21:19:18] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: WALL-E
- Input BD size: 22.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:11.927]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:19:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:19:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file D:\00000+00024+00001+00025+00002+00026+00003+00027+00004+00028+00005+00029+00006+00093+
00007+00031+00008+00032+00009+00033+00010+00034+00011+00035+00012+00036+00013+00037+00014+00038+00015+00039+
00016+00040+00017+00041+00018+00042+00019+00043+00020+00044+00021+00097+00022+00094.track_4352.dts
[21:19:19] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

That path name for that output file is just way too long. I've done quite a few searches, and while I've found maybe 2 or 3 posts with similar issues... I haven't seen a workaround yet.

Is there anything I can do to get around this? It looks to me like that is a temporary file so the actual file name probably doesn't matter.I agree it's long -- but what makes it "too long?" Unfortunately I'm not sure there's anything I can do about that one because it is created by TSMUXER. I'll look at it.

[jdobbs]

OK, thanks for your answers.

I've tried starting the job with the correct playlist (00081 I hope) and *lots* of videofiles in the stream window.

But now I have exactly the same problem like Wolffe two postings up:

[10:52:51] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: MOVIE
- Input BD size: 24.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:11.927]
- Target BD size: 8.11 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[10:52:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:52:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file D:\WORKFILES\00000+00024+00001+00025+00002+00026+00003+00027+00004+00028+00005+00029+00006+
00030+00007+00031+00008+00032+00009+00033+00010+00034+00011+00035+00012+00036+00013+00037+00014+00038+00015+00039+
00016+00040+00017+00041+00018+00042+00019+00043+00020+00044+00021+00045+50202+00023.track_4352.dts
[10:52:53] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

:confused::confused:

Where did you get your copy of WALL-E? I'm looking at MPLS 00081 on the Region A version, and it only has two component parts.

[jdobbs]

hey jdobbs i posted a error that i am getting with NOTORIOUS BIG on the page before this one and was wondering if you looked at it and can give me some in sight on it.From the first post of this thread:If you decide to download and test -- please post any errors you find in this thread. Don't push bug resolution or keep asking for a fix. I will get to the reported bugs, but only when I can find the time..

[Kakashi Sensei]

Ok so I have to be doing something wrong. I get a runtime error 9 'Subscript out of Range' when i double click to add or remove an audio. I just recently reinstalled my OS. I have installed all the required apps from the first page. Any ideas what i'm missing to cause this?

Edit: I had the wrong setting, this happened with the default setting for BD5/9 - Sorry for that

[jdobbs]

Ok so I have to be doing something wrong. I get a runtime error 9 'Subscript out of Range' when i double click to add or remove an audio. I just recently reinstalled my OS. I have installed all the required apps from the first page. Any ideas what i'm missing to cause this?

Edit: I had the wrong setting, this happened with the default setting for BD5/9 - Sorry for that Which setting? Even if it is wrong I should be doing a bounds-check on it.

[samtroy]

Where did you get your copy of WALL-E? I'm looking at MPLS 00081 on the Region A version, and it only has two component parts.

It's the Region B version.

[setarip_old]

@samtroy
@jdobbs

Processing the REGION B version of "WALL-E" (Different than the Region A version) has already been discussed at length in the following thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1276826#post1276826

Try my suggested test/fix detailed in that thread...

[Kakashi Sensei]

Which setting? Even if it is wrong I should be doing a bounds-check on it.

I used the Matrix Revolutions - It was set to target size BD5 and when I tried to double click any audio/subtitle to remove them i got the run time error.

Just tell me what you want and i'll screen cap and give the ini. I think i can reproduce it.

[dragonknight]

ok sorry about that jdobbs just want to let you know about the other error that i had in another movie.

[Sn8kbordin]

I agree it's long -- but what makes it "too long?" Unfortunately I'm not sure there's anything I can do about that one because it is created by TSMUXER. I'll look at it.

The file name, " *.dts " is too long. NTFS allows file name up to 255 characters long according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems#Limits

[Sn8kbordin]

@samtroy
@jdobbs

Processing the REGION B version of "WALL-E" (Different than the Region A version) has already been discussed at length in the following thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1276826#post1276826

Try my suggested test/fix detailed in that thread...

This does work for movie only. Thanks for the tip.

[setarip_old]

@Sn8kbordinThis does work for movie only. Thanks for the tip.You're quite welcome ;>}

[setarip_old]

Further to something I mentioned about PS3 "freezing" problems, the following was noted at one of the lesser video-related forums:A class action lawsuit has been launched against Sony for their botched introduction of their latest PS3 firmware, 3.00 and 3.01, both of which have caused freezing and controller related problems.

The firmware updates are mandatory for anyone who wants to play online, and so many people have been forced into updating, only to find that their system freezes, that Blu-ray drive no longer reads any drive, or that their controllers stop working.

Sony will repair all machines for free if it is under warranty, but charges a standard $150 fee for out of warranty repairs, which has angered some users enough for them to sue Sony for 'compensation and restitution for breach of implied warranty.'

[equad]

I have a similar problem with Fast_Furious. Using BD version 03002, the original m2ts is 26G when run through encoding to BD25, the main movie is now 6G. I tried an earlier version but something keep crashing on my system and causing a reboot and BSOD.

Quite strange, first time it's ever happened. Not at home so can't post log or last cmd.

cwh

Hey, i went back and double checked all my settings since my encodes worked on my other computer. Turns out all i needed to do what update ffdShow to the latest version (from their site) instead of the one listed on page 1. I slightly remember having a problem like that when i set it up on my old computer a few months back. Hope that might also help you!

[GaPony]

Further to something I mentioned about PS3 "freezing" problems, the following was noted at one of the lesser video-related forums:

I have to admit that with much trepidation I finally took my new PS3 Slim out of the box, set it up, and updated the firmware to 3.01... Much to my surprise and amazement, everything works perfectly, including games, Blu-Ray and DVD movies, online gaming, and the soon-to-be infamous Playstation Store.

I have since updated the firmware on my other two PS3's and no problems there either. I'm not sure what all the screaming is about, but I have a feeling most of it from those users who think they're smarter than Sony and are hacking away with Linux... which the slim thankfully doesn't even support. The PS3 has always worked well with BD Rebuilder, within the constraints noted early on.

[TheGriF]

Hi,

I've been using BD Rebuilder for a few months now, but with the dutch retail of Pinocchio I came across an error that I haven't seen in the forum.

I hope someone can help. My OS is win7, all drives are NTFS. I used all quality settings and the new version (and two previous ones as well). The error message is as follows:

-----------------------
[17:10:27] BD Rebuilder v0.29.01 (beta)
- Source: PINOCCHIO_GBR_D1
- Input BD size: 31,82 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:52:11.558]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[17:10:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:10:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [17:27:21] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 18)
- [17:27:21] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [17:33:36] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 126.216 frames
- Bitrate: 16.246 Kbs
- [17:33:36] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:05:52] Video Encode complete
- [22:05:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:05:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[22:06:58] - Failed to build structure, aborted

Thanks for any insights on this issue.


Anyone found a solution for thise one?? i DO have made seach on forum, but can't find anything :(

I'm self running under Vista 64bit since Win 7 gave me to many movies that i couldnt enconder with BD Rebuilder..

and to jodbbs: YOU RULEZ! and my deaply respect for your really hardwork, to get os thise wonderfull tool!

[jdobbs]

Anyone found a solution for thise one?? i DO have made seach on forum, but can't find anything :(

I'm self running under Vista 64bit since Win 7 gave me to many movies that i couldnt enconder with BD Rebuilder..

and to jodbbs: YOU RULEZ! and my deaply respect for your really hardwork, to get os thise wonderfull tool! A guess would be a bad rip -- but I can't say for sure. The error is returned from TSMUXER.

[jdobbs]

No, I didn't do any preprocessing.
Files showing the oddness (re-encoded but not resized):
00002.m2ts (Studio intro)
00125.m2ts (Segment of the main feature). In addition, all audio (DTS) and sups were kept and muxed intact for this segment, instead of being selected and re-encoded to ac3 for audio. It is noted that the 00125.m2ts belongs to the playlist for the "extended version". It is not used for the "theatre version".
The problem (no resizing to 720p and no stripping of audio and sups for mentioned segment) still persists with v0.30.02. Any clue as to why this happens?
I looked at this. 00002.M2TS is not a studio intro, it is a menu background, and it not supposed to resize for that reason. Same for the audio... menu audio is not supposed to be reencoded.

00125.M2TS is not resized because it is not 1920x1080 -- it is 720x480. In my disc, at least, it is not a part of the extended version (it is an extra called "Advertising the Games").

So, at least from what I see, there isn't a bug.

[cwh060]

Hey, i went back and double checked all my settings since my encodes worked on my other computer. Turns out all i needed to do what update ffdShow to the latest version (from their site) instead of the one listed on page 1. I slightly remember having a problem like that when i set it up on my old computer a few months back. Hope that might also help you!

Thanks equad, I will give this a try tonight when I return home.

cwh

[Kakashi Sensei]

Just to let you know about FFDshow, I used a later version then whats on the main page and all my VC1 BD's re-encoded had stuttered video, ALL of them, this version on the front page gave me flawless encodes of any source. So test it out first if you are going to a newer version.

[jdobbs]

You just have to be careful and not "upgrade" the minute a new version of FFDSHOW is released -- give it some time. I'm currently using Revision 2857 and am not seeing any problems.

[Sharc]

I looked at this. 00002.M2TS is not a studio intro, it is a menu background, and it not supposed to resize for that reason. Same for the audio... menu audio is not supposed to be reencoded.
Yes, you are right, it's a (VC-1) menu background. I didn't know that it is not supposed to be resized. So that's ok then, thanks.
00125.M2TS is not resized because it is not 1920x1080 -- it is 720x480. In my disc, at least, it is not a part of the extended version (it is an extra called "Advertising the Games").
So, at least from what I see, there isn't a bug
Interesting. The 00125.m2ts is a full fledged AVC 1920x1088 video segment here (Region B). It is only used for the playback of a scene of the 'extended version'. Could there be an inconsistency with the playlist? What is the decision to resize - or not - based on?

[Furiousflea]

I use the Pioneer BD-203 in an external enclosure and can absolutely recommend it. It is very fast, has one of the best burning qualities on the market and runs very smooth and quiet independant if you use CD, DVD, BD-R or BD-RE. 100% thumbs up from me (after testing several other options as well).

Feel free to delete this, if you consider this too much off-topic.

I'd have deleted it ;)

All bluray burners are much of a muchness and all discs are much of a muchness. We haven't reached the point where companies are at rock bottom margins and most of the cheap discs are utter pants...

[jdobbs]

Got a question for you m8s.
I am in the process of buying a bd burner but i want to be sure that it's going to be the best bet.

I usualy rip or download blu-rays and then i use bd rebuilder to put them in bd9, my ps3 runs them fine.
But i want to go a step further and there are some movies i want to keep the HD audio so for this i think the best bet would be to burn them on bd25.
BD9 as a great Image Quality, can't find a difference on a 40" LCD.

So for keeping DTS, TRUE-DTS etc .. the best bet would be a br burner?

Thanks in advance.Please open another thread... this thread is for bug reports only.

[allright]

Hej

Discovered two zip files in the root of the disc, these zip files contains files in a folder named sync:
083824576\sync\083824576-dts_5_1-eng.iid
083824576\sync\083824576-dts_5_1-eng.syn

If you need more info, please let me know.

//Jesper

Using BD-RB v0.30.02 and trying to do The X-Files I Want to believe region B (Full Movie), but got the following error:

OS: Windows Vista 64 bit
FFDSHOW rev. 2661 (7 feb. 2009)
Haali: 1.9.42.1


[01:12:15] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: THE.X-FILES.I.WANT.TO.BELIEVE.GER.DC.BLU-RAY.1080P.AVC.DTS-HD.5.1
- Input BD size: 42,52 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:26.751]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[01:12:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:12:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [01:13:03] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 35)
- [01:13:03] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [01:20:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: D:\THE.X-FILES.I.WANT.TO.BELIEVE.GER.DC.BLU-RAY.1080P.AVC.DTS-HD.5.1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: D:\THE.X-FILES.I.WANT.TO.BELIEVE.GER.DC.BLU-RAY.1080P.AVC.DTS-HD.5.1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
[01:20:50] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=THE.X-FILES.I.WANT.TO.BELIEVE.GER.DC.BLU-RAY.1080P.AVC.DTS-HD.5.1
VERSION=v0.30.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45654543097
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=39120009216
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.449455776503465
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=dan;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
[00001]
AUDIO=1001110
PGS=11111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=267118428
RATE=4811
NSIZE=256536576
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00002]
AUDIO=0000000
PGS=

[marius1]

Hmm BD Rebuilder produced over 4.9GB of files even though I specified DVD-5, so ImgBurn refused to writes the files to disc. Is anyone else running into this problem? I'm re-running the whole thing now with the custom size set to 4.2GB. v0.30.02

[setarip_old]

@marius1

Hi!

I'm guessing you have a BluRay disc with multiple "heavy duty" audiostreams - and have not deleted enough of them to leave sufficient room for the video, making burning to DVD-5 infeasible...

[marius1]

@marius1

Hi!

I'm guessing you have a BluRay disc with multiple "heavy duty" audiostreams - and have not deleted enough of them to leave sufficient room for the video, making burning to DVD-5 infeasible...

Hmmm I only have one DD+ audio stream.. I also just realized that I was using a newer version of x264.exe than the one that came with v30.02. I reverted the binary and trying it again.

[cwh060]

You just have to be careful and not "upgrade" the minute a new version of FFDSHOW is released -- give it some time. I'm currently using Revision 2857 and am not seeing any problems.

@jdobbs, equad, Kakashi Sensei,

Reverting to ffdshow 2857 seems to have restored things back to normal. I have a conversion program that automatically updates ffdshow. I should have known this was the problem.

I backed up the dark knight and the file structure now looks correct.

thanks....cwh

[marius1]

Hmmm I only have one DD+ audio stream.. I also just realized that I was using a newer version of x264.exe than the one that came with v30.02. I reverted the binary and trying it again.

Nope that didn't help at all. Still produced 4.9GB. What could be going wrong?

[DGenerateKane]

I'm going to get another copy and try again soon.

I got a new disc to rip and yet I still get the same result. I have done almost two dozen discs without problems, I have no idea why this one is causing problems. :/

Edit: I just noticed the first Pirates movie failed as well, although it failed at a different spot.

==========================
[15:02:08] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
[15:02:08] BEGIN - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
-----------------------
[15:02:08] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
-----------------------
[15:02:09] BD Rebuilder v0.30.02 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES1
- Input BD size: 42.44 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:29:56.241]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:02:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:02:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [15:02:09] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 10)
- [15:02:09] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [15:02:09] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[15:05:11] - Failed video encode, aborted

[GaPony]

Nope that didn't help at all. Still produced 4.9GB. What could be going wrong?

Try using a custom target size of 4300 instead of BD5.

EDIT: I see you already tried that... oops! Just keep lowering it until you get to a number that either works or chokes immediately.

[Wolffe]

@samtroy
@jdobbs

Processing the REGION B version of "WALL-E" (Different than the Region A version) has already been discussed at length in the following thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1276826#post1276826

Try my suggested test/fix detailed in that thread...

Thanks for the replies guys.

I bought the disc used from the local video store so it shouldn't be a Region B disc, but my experience with ripping it seems to suggest it is. Region A discs don't seem to have the issue of being split into so many parts. Very strange!

Regardless, I read the post above which lead me to try a few things. I tried it with MakeMKV on the image I had already ripped via AnyDVD, but I couldn't get TsMuxer to recognise any of the subtitles afterwards.

Instead I just used TsMuxer to open the 0081 playlist and unselected the unnecessary video, audio, and subtitles. This generated a Blu Ray folder structure that seemed to play fine with TotalMedia Theatre and it included the subtitles.

I'm now feeding this into BD Rebuilder as I write this to see what comes out the other end. I realise that use of a modified source is unsupported though.

So is it TsMuxer that generates the really long filename shown in my previous post when going at it directly with BD-Rebuilder? I don't really know enough about this stuff just yet to know if I should be puzzled why it worked through the TsMuxer GUI?!

[turbojet]

I'm not going to use it. I don't want a dependency on the java engine built it. I'm in the process of writing my own code to resize the subtitles -- it's almost done.

I understand the issue relying on java, it also takes some registry checks to get external java programs to work on 64 bit OS's.

Good luck on the venture and I look forward to seeing resize work with subs on virtually everything.

[astraub]

Hi,

I have to come back on the black area encoding problem, as it drives me crazy. The latest BD RB compresses fine now, but whenever I have large areas of black I get compression artifacts of the worst kind. For example compressing a fully black screen results in an encoded mid grey screen (sometimes with very lively artifacts) that only changes to black when enough other picture content comes into the game.

I am sure that this is a problem with the avisynth re-encoding. Most likely any of the prameters used generate the problem? What can I do about this?
(Right now I am trying some parameters in the ffdshow output settings, like turning off the automatic BT601/709 setting and swithing it to ITU-R BT709 and setting the output level to TV/projector instead of computer monitor).

By the way - is there any GUI type interface that I could use only for the video resizing with Avisynth (like FitCD) that can generate the required Avisynth script?

[jdobbs]

Hmmm I only have one DD+ audio stream.. I also just realized that I was using a newer version of x264.exe than the one that came with v30.02. I reverted the binary and trying it again.

Post your .INF file -- it should show the target and actual sizes. Also post your .INI file. It will show your settings.

[jdobbs]

Hi,

I have to come back on the black area encoding problem, as it drives me crazy. The latest BD RB compresses fine now, but whenever I have large areas of black I get compression artifacts of the worst kind. For example compressing a fully black screen results in an encoded mid grey screen (sometimes with very lively artifacts) that only changes to black when enough other picture content comes into the game.

I am sure that this is a problem with the avisynth re-encoding. Most likely any of the prameters used generate the problem? What can I do about this?
(Right now I am trying some parameters in the ffdshow output settings, like turning off the automatic BT601/709 setting and swithing it to ITU-R BT709 and setting the output level to TV/projector instead of computer monitor).

By the way - is there any GUI type interface that I could use only for the video resizing with Avisynth (like FitCD) that can generate the required Avisynth script? I'm guessing you're using the "Fastest (BD-25)" setting. I experienced something similar in backup tests of up my "LOST Season 1" discs. I fixed it by adding CABAC back into the fastest setting. It makes is very slightly slower, but corrects the blockiness in those scenes. You'll see it in the next release.

[marius1]

Post your .INF file -- it should show the target and actual sizes. Also post your .INI file. It will show your settings.

Here's the INI. Where do i get the INF file?

[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
TRELLIS=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\BD\THE_READER\
WORKING_PATH=C:\FAB\REBUILDER\


Keep in mind that this is the first time i've run into this problem. I've rebuilt about a dozen blu-ray discs with success so far.

[chudm]

i tried to rip a friend, wizard of oz, european edition, when trying to extract 003.m2ts tsmuxer.exe closes, and everytime i do it, happens the same thing

[Dark Shikari]

I'm guessing you're using the "Fastest (BD-25)" setting. I experienced something similar in backup tests of up my "LOST Season 1" discs. I fixed it by adding CABAC back into the fastest setting. It makes is very slightly slower, but corrects the blockiness in those scenes. You'll see it in the next release.Sounds like the decoder in the Blu-ray player might have a broken decoder; an extremely common mistake is to forget to realize that CAVLC+8x8dct uses different nnz values for deblocking as it uses for context. This can cause serious artifacting in some cases, and if hardly anyone ever used CAVLC on the device, probably nobody would notice until now.

[elrond81]

Hi!

I unzipped BD_Rebuilder 0.30.02_beta to a folder on my PC and ran it. But it only showed "Beta version expired. Please upgrade to newer version."

Could somebody please tell me what I could do about this?

Cheers

[chudm]

Hi!

I unzipped BD_Rebuilder 0.30.02_beta to a folder on my PC and ran it. But it only showed "Beta version expired. Please upgrade to newer version."

Could somebody please tell me what I could do about this?

Cheers

check the date on your pc

[Wolffe]

Instead I just used TsMuxer to open the 0081 playlist and unselected the unnecessary video, audio, and subtitles. This generated a Blu Ray folder structure that seemed to play fine with TotalMedia Theatre and it included the subtitles.

I'm now feeding this into BD Rebuilder as I write this to see what comes out the other end. I realise that use of a modified source is unsupported though.

Just in case anyone is interested, this seemed to work just fine. The final movie-only Blu-Ray produced by BD-Rebuilder played fine under TotalMedia Theatre. I jumped through various chapters and the audio seemed to be in-sync throughout.

The only odd thing was that the progress bar in TotalMedia Theatre wouldn't work properly. The movie actually ends at about the 1/6 mark as if TotalMedia thinks the movie is about 6 times longer. Clicking the end of the progress bar makes Total Media jump to about 9:45:00. Odd... but I can live with that.

[turbojet]

x264 --fps changes framerate from avs input since r1271. This is OK for the most part except when converting 30 to 60 fps. x264 --fps 30000/1001 is used which outputs a choppy 30 fps stream.

There's many solutions to the problem but since DirectShowSource is the culprit I'd use AssumeFPS immediately after DSS and not use x264 --fps.

[DrKajun]

Had pretty good luck with BDRB thus far, but finally ran into an issue. I think this would be my frist one with HD audio and the file plays fine on the PC but when I put it to a BD and play it on the set-top the audio is slightly out of sync. What am I doing wrong?

Would FFDshow have anything to do with this? cuz I was running a newer verison untill I saw a previous post and have sencie down graded.

[jdobbs]

Sounds like the decoder in the Blu-ray player might have a broken decoder; an extremely common mistake is to forget to realize that CAVLC+8x8dct uses different nnz values for deblocking as it uses for context. This can cause serious artifacting in some cases, and if hardly anyone ever used CAVLC on the device, probably nobody would notice until now.The interesting thing is that it does it both on my PC (with MPC) and on my standalone but CABAC fixed it. Even more interesting is that I didn't see it on any other fade-ins or dark scenes (the bitrate is pretty high because this was a BD-25 encode) -- only the intro to LOST. Maybe because of the contrast of the large moving white letters (the LOST text) on a black background? Don't know.

[jdobbs]

I've just updated the first post of this thread with a link to an update to BD-RB (v0.30.03). Changes for this release are:- Changed default for "High Speed (BD-25)" setting
so that it now uses CABAC. This corrects the
blockiness experienced in fade-ins and low light
scenes.
- Modified settings so the VC-1 video is never set to
be blanked. Removed associated code.
- Added FFMS2.DLL to package. It is automatically
used for decoding when a failure is detected after
on attempt to encode. This should bypass certain
errors when DirectShow filters are misconfigured, or
when the Windows 7 registry fix wasn't completed.
- Added a hidden setting "USE_FFMS2=1". When enabled
this setting uses FFMS2.DLL as the primary method
of frame serving. Note: As of this release FFMS2
does not decode field based VC-1 sources (those marked
with a "**" in the stream list). But I'm hoping a
solution will be found for this soon.
- Removed "--fps" from the X264 command line. The
AVS now sets thet bitrate.
- Added a new hidden option "QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1" in
which, when set, BD-RB will use the currently chosen
quality level in quick extra encodes rather than the
default of "--ultrafast" mode.
- Fixed an error in which the source aspect ratio for
video resized from SD to HD was not being set
properly.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[DrKajun]

do you think .03 will resolve my sync issue?

[elrond81]

:thanks: CHUDM
Now it's working perfectly!

[chudm]

:thanks: CHUDM
Now it's working perfectly!

not a problem man :)

[lican]

a ringrazziamento to Mr. jobby x its job already I use dvd reb with great esteem .da some day use bd reb, if someone puo to help made me baikap of twilight audio dts but on my play does not feel audio .qualcuno me puo to help use then as it arranges op xp, or pure seven 64 bit would appeal to that it also worked them thanks I am up your news and thanks to the Mr. jobby when I want to leave language dts I put dulls just and on rows configurazzione ce dts =0 and just thus thanks

[Groucho2004]

a ringrazziamento to Mr. jobby x its job already I use dvd reb with great esteem .da some day use bd reb, if someone puo to help made me baikap of twilight audio dts but on my play does not feel audio .qualcuno me puo to help use then as it arranges op xp, or pure seven 64 bit would appeal to that it also worked them thanks I am up your news and thanks to the Mr. jobby when I want to leave language dts I put dulls just and on rows configurazzione ce dts =0 and just thus thanks

Very funny. Did you use Babelfish?

Mr. Jobby, I think he/she likes the program! :)

[lican]

si , mi dispiace non consco l inglese si fa quel che si puo scusate.

[Groucho2004]

si , mi dispiace non consco l inglese si fa quel che si puo scusate.

No need to apologize. You might want to try a different translation engine, the one you used is horrible.

[lican]

aiutare fatto mi |baikap| dei |dts| di audio di crepuscolo ma sul mio dramma non senta l'audio .qualcuno mi |puo| aiutare ad usare poi come esso accomoda |xp| di operazione, o il sette 64 pezzo puro farebbe appello a che li ha lavorato anche ringrazi sono sulle sue notizie e grazie a |jobby| il Sig. quando voglio lasciare i |dts| di lingua che io metto smussi giusto e su spingono i |dts| di |ce| di |configurazzione| =0 ed appena così ringrazi

[lican]

cosi va bene me sa di no

[jdobbs]

@lican -- Rule 13. Also --- please remember this thread is for bug reports only.

[turbojet]

Thanks a lot for the new version. 59.94 and crf extras are much more efficient. However a few things I've noticed that have changed.

- REBUILDER.INI is included in the zip again, which wipes out all settings, is that needed?
- x264 --me umh --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 don't exist any longer in the high settings, could they be used again for higher quality?

[Sharc]

BD-RB v0.30.03, 1-pass CRF mode.
I tried QUICK_USE_EXTRAS=1. It doesn't seem to have an effect. The Extras are still encoded 'ultrafast' -- as indicated by the lastcmd.txt and by analyzing the encoded file with MediaInfo.
I selected "High Quality" (default), which uses --preset medium IIRC, and enabled "Quicker" Encode for Extras. I would expect that QUICK_USE_EXTRAS=1 should now have taken the "High Quality" (i.e. --preset medium) switches.
Did I miss something?

Secondly, is it ok to use a preceding # to disable certain options in the config file for testing?

[turbojet]

BD-RB v0.30.03, 1-pass CRF mode.
I tried QUICK_USE_EXTRAS=1. It doesn't seem to have an effect. The Extras are still encoded 'ultrafast' -- as indicated by the lastcmd.txt and by analyzing the encoded file with MediaInfo.
I selected "High Quality" (default), which uses --preset medium IIRC, and enabled "Quicker" Encode for Extras. I would expect that QUICK_USE_EXTRAS=1 should now have taken the "High Quality" (i.e. --preset medium) switches.
Did I miss something?

QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1 is working for me

Secondly, is it ok to use a preceding # to disable certain options in the config file for testing?

I've never had a problem using it.

[PurpleMan]

@jdobbs:

I think I may have found a new bug with the way BD-Rebuilder handles MPLS files for pip discs.

I did Resident Evil: Extinction and left out the PiP in the full disc (BD25) backup. The result disc would play perfectly in powerdvd7 and tmt3, but would not play in PowerDVD9 (when you click 'play movie', it would show the FBI warnings then get back to the main menu, refusing to even start playing the main m2ts).

I figured this must be a PowerDVD9 bug with the disc, so I tried playing the original one. To my surprise, it played perfectly. So I started to dig - what could possibly make PowerDVD9 not play the bd-rb output? I replaced bd-rb's main-movie MPLS with the original disc MPLS (knowing it will screw up alot of stuff), just wanted to see if powerdvd will then at least start playing, and - IT DID! So I concluded that there's something in the BD-RB outputted MPLS that it did not like.

The original disc MPLS had the IN_TIME set to 00:00:11,650, and I know that BD-RB changes it in the rebuild to correspond with TSMuxer (IN_TIME = 00:10:00,000). Nothing wrong with that, and the chapters have been adjusted accordingly.

Further digging in BDEdit revealed something that is probably wrong. The sub-path chatper-points (used for the pip, I think) only had the IN_TIME adjusted to the new main m2ts IN_TIME (10mins). meaning, for each of the chapters the IN_TIME increased in ~10mins, which is good, but the OUT_TIME was not (and it should have been!). So the OUT_TIME for each of the chapters was BEFORE the IN_TIME (not good!)

I attached two screenshots of BDEdit illustrating this. One of the original disc, and one of the BD-RB output disc. You can see what I'm talking about there.

P.S.
This disc was done with 0.29.03, so if you addressed the bug since then, I apologize.

[turbojet]

PurpleMan: Would fixmpls (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41722) help you debug it further?

[PurpleMan]

PurpleMan: Would fixmpls (http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41722) help you debug it further?

I tried using fixmpls on the original MPLS file, but fixmpls does not fix sub-path chapter points, only main chapter points. I'm going to hex-edit the bd-rb mpls to fix this myself and see what happens.

Either way, I reckon this should be addressed by our beloved jdobbs :)

[Sharc]

QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1 is working for me
Good to know. Seems like those Extras which are 480i in the original and which I let BD-RB convert to 720p are still encoded 'ultrafast'. Maybe this is intentional?
I will try another disc with a simpler structure.

Added:
I found the 'bug': The correct command is QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1. I put in QUICK_USE_EXTRAS=1 as erroneously documented in the HIDDENOPTS.TXT. :p

[PurpleMan]

Progress report:

I've hex-editted the out_times, and now when I click play movie it indeed starts playing. So that's a winner.

However, if I try to seek or jump through chapters, powerdvd crashes. Which indicates I've either screwed up something in the MPLS while editting it, or that the timing values weren't the only thing wrong with the MPLS to begin with.

:(

[laserfan]

...fixmpls does not fix sub-path chapter points, only main chapter points.What's a "sub-path chapter point"?

Also, what is the magic incantation for downloading fixmpls--all I ever get is "Slow down, you have to wait 17 seconds..."?

[jdobbs]

BD-RB v0.30.03, 1-pass CRF mode.
I tried QUICK_USE_EXTRAS=1. It doesn't seem to have an effect. The Extras are still encoded 'ultrafast' -- as indicated by the lastcmd.txt and by analyzing the encoded file with MediaInfo.
I selected "High Quality" (default), which uses --preset medium IIRC, and enabled "Quicker" Encode for Extras. I would expect that QUICK_USE_EXTRAS=1 should now have taken the "High Quality" (i.e. --preset medium) switches.
Did I miss something?

Secondly, is it ok to use a preceding # to disable certain options in the config file for testing?I typed it wrong in the HIDDENOOPTS.TXT file. It is "QUICK_USE_QUALITY".

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs:

I think I may have found a new bug with the way BD-Rebuilder handles MPLS files for pip discs.

I did Resident Evil: Extinction and left out the PiP in the full disc (BD25) backup. The result disc would play perfectly in powerdvd7 and tmt3, but would not play in PowerDVD9 (when you click 'play movie', it would show the FBI warnings then get back to the main menu, refusing to even start playing the main m2ts).

I figured this must be a PowerDVD9 bug with the disc, so I tried playing the original one. To my surprise, it played perfectly. So I started to dig - what could possibly make PowerDVD9 not play the bd-rb output? I replaced bd-rb's main-movie MPLS with the original disc MPLS (knowing it will screw up alot of stuff), just wanted to see if powerdvd will then at least start playing, and - IT DID! So I concluded that there's something in the BD-RB outputted MPLS that it did not like.

The original disc MPLS had the IN_TIME set to 00:00:11,650, and I know that BD-RB changes it in the rebuild to correspond with TSMuxer (IN_TIME = 00:10:00,000). Nothing wrong with that, and the chapters have been adjusted accordingly.

Further digging in BDEdit revealed something that is probably wrong. The sub-path chatper-points (used for the pip, I think) only had the IN_TIME adjusted to the new main m2ts IN_TIME (10mins). meaning, for each of the chapters the IN_TIME increased in ~10mins, which is good, but the OUT_TIME was not (and it should have been!). So the OUT_TIME for each of the chapters was BEFORE the IN_TIME (not good!)

I attached two screenshots of BDEdit illustrating this. One of the original disc, and one of the BD-RB output disc. You can see what I'm talking about there.

P.S.
This disc was done with 0.29.03, so if you addressed the bug since then, I apologize.Hmmm... good catch. I'll check it out.

[jdobbs]

@PurpleMan

Thanks for the outstanding bug report. The detail was fantastic and pointed me in exactly the right direction.

I just looked at it, and this could be the cause of other problems also. When the new OUT value was rewritten, there was a character mistyped on the line of code that rewrote the value to the MPLS -- and (oddly enough) it didn't cause a compile error because here was another variable by that (mistyped) name. The value was written to the wrong location in the file.

I'm updating it and will post a fix.

[jdobbs]

Thanks a lot for the new version. 59.94 and crf extras are much more efficient. However a few things I've noticed that have changed.

- REBUILDER.INI is included in the zip again, which wipes out all settings, is that needed?
- x264 --me umh --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 don't exist any longer in the high settings, could they be used again for higher quality? "--me umh" is set in both the "High Quality (Default)" and "Highest (Very Slow)" modes as a part of the preset. Are you saying the defaults in X264 have changed? I don't remember seeing anything in the changelogs...

"--psy-rd 1.0:0.0" should be present in all settings except "Good" and "Highest Speed (BD-25)"

[PurpleMan]

@PurpleMan

Thanks for the outstanding bug report. The detail was fantastic and pointed me in exactly the right direction.

I just looked at it, and this could be the cause of other problems also. When the new OUT value was rewritten, there was a character mistyped on the line of code that rewrote the value to the MPLS -- and (oddly enough) it didn't cause a compile error because here was another variable by that (mistyped) name. The value was written to the wrong location in the file.

I'm updating it and will post a fix.

No, thank you!

And I find great pleasure in that I was able to help! Keep up the good work!

To continue our discussion, I wrote a small program that corrected all the OUT_TIMES on the BD-RB MPLS, and like I said, PowerDVD9 then agrees to start playing. Thing is, after only 1 minute of playback, the program crashes. Further digging revealed that it crashes EXACTLY at points where PiP would appear if I hadn't ripped it out with BD-RB. What do you think could cause this?

Maybe it's a bad idea to keep all the PiP info in the MPLS even though it doesn't actually exist on file (references to tracks 1A00 and 1B00, and the long list of sub-path chapter points).

Otherwise, there must be some reason PowerDVD9 crashes on the RB but not the original disc. We could say it's a PDVD9 bug since it's crashing instead of erroring, but it's obvious that it's seeing (or not seeing) something in the MPLS that it's not expecting to. And maybe it crashes because that thing is out-of-spec and the coders didn't think they'd need to handle such a case.

A penny for your thoughts.


Edit:
In addition to the main MPLS (00001.mpls), the disc has another playlist (00060.mpls) that is the same as the first, except it doesn't contain the subpath and pip data. I tried overwriting 00001.mpls with 00060.mpls, and viola - PowerDVD9 plays the disc perfectly, chapter selection works, seeking, and everything else. Could this, perhaps, validate my abovementioned point?

Edit 2:
I can now confirm that the OUT values calculated by 0.30.04 are correct. However, output still crashes on PDVD9 where PiP should be.

[jdobbs]

I've just updated the first post in this thread to include a link to the most recent release (v0.30.04) of BD-RB. Changes:- Corrected an error in which the SubPlayItem OUT
value was not being updated properly in the SubPath
table of the MPLS. This could be the root cause of
several reported inconsistencies.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[chudm]

hi jdobbs i kept having this problem with braveheart, region a bluray:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7097/braveheart.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/i/braveheart.jpg/)


what can i do?

[turbojet]

OLD SETTINGS
Firstpass: --subme 7 --me hex --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --threads auto
Very High Quality: --subme 9 --me umh --ref 4 --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --mixed-refs --8x8dct --direct auto --trellis 1 --weightb --threads auto --psy-rd 1.0:0.2
Description: Everything and the kitchen sink, but no insane settings.

Firstpass: --subme 2 --me dia --bframes 3 --direct auto --weightb --threads auto --partitions none
High Quality: --subme 7 --me umh--ref 3 --bframes 3 --direct auto --8x8dct --weightb --trellis 1 --threads auto --psy-rd 1.0:0.2
Description: A good balance.

Firstpass: --subme 2 --me dia --bframes 3 --direct auto --weightb --threads auto --partitions none
Medium Quality: --subme 6 --me hex --ref 2 --bframes 3 --direct auto --8x8dct --weightb --threads auto
Description: A good balance, but toned down a bit.

Firstpass: --subme 0 --me dia --bframes 3 --direct auto --weightb --threads auto --partitions none
Low Quality: --subme 3 --me hex --bframes 3 --8x8dct --weightb --threads auto
Description: Much faster, but with a significant quality penalty.

Firstpass: None
Ultra-Low Quality: --subme 1 --me dia --partitions i8x8,i4x4 --bframes 3 --8x8dct --threads auto
Description: Even faster, but with a very large quality penalty.

Firstpass: None
Ultra-Fast: --subme 0 --no-cabac --partitions none --me dia --aq-mode 0
Description: Incredibly fast, but with an enormous quality penalty.


NEW DEFAULTS
ultrafast: --ref 1 --scenecut 0 --nf --no-cabac --bframes 0 --partitions none --no-8x8dct --me dia --subme 0 --aq-mode 0
veryfast: --partitions i8x8,i4x4 --subme 1 --me dia --ref 1 --trellis 0
fast: --mixed-refs 0 --ref 2 --subme 5
default: --subme 7 --bframes 3 --weightb --8x8dct --ref 3 --mixed-refs --trellis 1 --crf 23 --threads auto


NEW EQUIVALENT (add --slices 4 -vbv-bufsize 14500 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --stats --output --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud )
very high p1: --pass 1 --slow-first-pass --b-adapt 2 --direct auto
very high p2: --pass 2 --subme 9 --me umh --ref 4 --b-adapt 2 --psy-rd 1.0:0.2
high p1: --pass 1
high p2: --pass 2 --me umh --direct auto --psy-rd 1.0:0.2
medium p1: --pass 1
medium p2: --pass 2 --subme 6 --ref 2 --direct auto
low p1: --pass 1 --subme 0
low p2: --pass 2 --subme 3 --ref 2
ultralow: --preset veryfast
ultrafast: --preset ultrafast

CURRENT HIGH QUALITY: --pass 2 --preset medium (this is default, redundant) --threads auto (default/redundant) --thread-input (default/redundant)

--me umh --direct auto --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 are missing from high setting, I don't know about the others.

[chudm]

hi jdobbs i kept having this problem with braveheart, region a bluray:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7097/braveheart.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/i/braveheart.jpg/)


what can i do?

how could i rebuild all the files myself? thx

[chudm]

how could i rebuild all the files myself? thx

i replaced the main movie on the original bluray (00006.m2ts) and copy the new clpi files and burnt the movie, but, instead of having the almost 3 hours movie, the movie ends about 1 hour before that, and then only gets a blank screen!

any suggestion guys?

[samtroy]

@turbojet:

Could you please explain for us "normal" users ;):

Does that mean that BD Rebuilders output is different now because x264's presets have changed in the newest version (r1281)?

[Sharc]

CURRENT HIGH QUALITY: --pass 2 --preset medium (this is default, redundant) --threads auto (default/redundant) --thread-input (default/redundant)

--me umh --direct auto --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 are missing from high setting, I don't know about the others.

--preset medium uses: --me hex, --psy-rd 1.0:0.0
The --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 would need to be extra set, or may be invoked by --tune film

(It may be easiest to check an encoded .m2ts with MediaInfo and read the encoder settings back to see what has eventually been set ..... not always easy to keep track of the changes..)

[jdobbs]

--preset medium uses: --me hex, --psy-rd 1.0:0.0
The --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 would need to be extra set, or may be invoked by --tune film

(It may be easiest to check an encoded .m2ts with MediaInfo and read the encoder settings back to see what has eventually been set ..... not always easy to keep track of the changes..) All the defaults are used (from MEDIUM) unless changed by the preset.

Here are the presets:

ultrafast (used in QUICK and FASTEST by default):
ref 1, scenecut 0, no-deblock, no-cabac, bframes 0, partitions none, no-8x8dct, me dia, subme 0, aq-mode 0, no-mixed-refs, trellis 0, b-adapt 0, no-mbtree

veryfast (Used for "GOOD"):
partitions i8x8,i4x4, me dia, subme 1, ref 1, no-mixed-refs, trellis 0, no-mbtree

fast (Used for "Better, Fast"):
ref 2, subme 6, rc-lookahead 30

medium (Used for "High Quality (Default)"):
No changes from the X264 defaults.

slow (Used for "Highest (Very Slow)")
me umh, subme 8, ref 5, b-adapt 2, direct auto, rc-lookahead 50

In addition to these settings I've added limiters to assure BD compliance, including B frame limitations, GOP length, REFS, appropriate bitrate limitations, and --SLICES settings.

I was mistaken, though, "--me umh" isn't used in the "High Quality (Default)" setting. It uses the default "--me hex." I've spent a lot of time optimizing these settings and don't plan on changing them back to what they were when BD-RB first started...

[Sharc]

All the defaults are used (from MEDIUM) unless changed by the preset.

I spent a lot of time optimizing these settings...
I have no doubt :)

[chudm]

any suggestion jdobbs about my problem i posted before? :(

[jdobbs]

any suggestion jdobbs about my problem i posted before? :( I can only say the the one time I've seen that error reported before was on a downloaded movie that was improperly formatted by the hacker. BD Rebuilder is meant to work with original movies and I don't support preprocessing (or hacking for that matter). That's why I didn't want to discuss it. Error 52 means "bad file name". As I recall, in the previous case the file name had illegal characters in it.

There's not really anything I can do. I get the filename from the Operating System via directory functions, then when I try to open it -- boom -- the name isn't legal. Garbage in, garbage out.

I'm not saying your copy is hacked -- but I am saying it has very probably somehow been trashed.

[chudm]

I can only say the the one time I've seen that error reported before was on a downloaded movie that was improperly formatted by the hacker. BD Rebuilder is meant to work with original movies and I don't support preprocessing (or hacking for that matter). That's why I didn't want to discuss it. Error 52 means "bad file name". As I recall, in the previous case the file name had illegal characters in it.

There's not really anything I can do. I get the filename from the Operating System via directory functions, then when I try to open it -- boom -- the name isn't legal. Garbage in, garbage out.

I'm not saying your copy is hacked -- but I am saying it has very probably somehow been trashed.

mine is original, but im using an old version of anydvdhd, and im on windows 7, maybe thats the problem? ill try to update anydvdhd! and will let you know :) thx for the answer

pd: btw can you give us a hint on what are you working for the future versions of bd rebuilder? had you looked over the bad overlay menu of many music blurays? selective extras? cause about pip i had tried severals and worked top notch :D thx about that! the only problems with pip are the ones with ac3+ but you cant do anything about it until some ac3+ free muxer comes out

[lican]

[12.54.25] BD Rebuilder v0.30.03 (beta)
- Source: ANGELS_AND_DEMONS
- Input BD size: 44,90 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:16:33.656]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12.54.25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12.54.25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [12.54.26] Reencoding: VID_00205 (1 of 67)
- [12.54.30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [12.54.30] Reencoding: VID_00104 (2 of 67)
- [12.54.39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12.54.40] Reencoding: VID_00000 (3 of 67)
- [12.54.48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_05033]
- [12.54.50] Reencoding: VID_05033 (4 of 67)
- [12.55.30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00527]
- [12.55.32] Reencoding: VID_00527 (5 of 67)
- [12.56.15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00530]
- [12.56.16] Reencoding: VID_00530 (6 of 67)
- [12.57.04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_04999]
- [12.57.06] Reencoding: VID_04999 (7 of 67)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- Encode failed. Retrying. errore x che

[Capsbackup]

@lican;
Release date for this movie is not until 11-24-09. How is it you have aquired it so early?

[lican]

in italia gia ce questo film

[chudm]

@lican;
Release date for this movie is not until 11-24-09. How is it you have aquired it so early?

like timmy turner says, i get it on the internet hahaha :devil:

[lican]

un aiuto ps3 vede come disco dati

[lican]

scusate son un italiano in mezzo a molti amici inglesi penso

[lican]

l inglese non lo conosco ma abbiamo in comune la passione x i film

[jdobbs]

l inglese non lo conosco ma abbiamo in comune la passione x i film I warned you before. This is an English forum -- and you're throwing useless trash into my bug thread.

[jdobbs]

[12.54.25] BD Rebuilder v0.30.03 (beta)
- Source: ANGELS_AND_DEMONS
- Input BD size: 44,90 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:16:33.656]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12.54.25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12.54.25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [12.54.26] Reencoding: VID_00205 (1 of 67)
- [12.54.30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [12.54.30] Reencoding: VID_00104 (2 of 67)
- [12.54.39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12.54.40] Reencoding: VID_00000 (3 of 67)
- [12.54.48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_05033]
- [12.54.50] Reencoding: VID_05033 (4 of 67)
- [12.55.30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00527]
- [12.55.32] Reencoding: VID_00527 (5 of 67)
- [12.56.15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00530]
- [12.56.16] Reencoding: VID_00530 (6 of 67)
- [12.57.04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_04999]
- [12.57.06] Reencoding: VID_04999 (7 of 67)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- Encode failed. Retrying. errore x che And... ? from what I see here it hasn't aborted yet, it's retrying. Also -- what is the "errore x che" trash follwing the error... that doesn't come from BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

Thanks a lot for the new version. 59.94 and crf extras are much more efficient. However a few things I've noticed that have changed.

- REBUILDER.INI is included in the zip again, which wipes out all settings, is that needed?
- x264 --me umh --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 don't exist any longer in the high settings, could they be used again for higher quality?I've added two new hidden options to the next release. That way you can tweak any of the settings in any way you want to.

For example if you choose "High Quality (Default)", but want to use "umh" and as the motion estimation method and "psy-rd 1.0:0.2" you could add:

TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--me umh --psy-rd 1.0:0.2
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--me umh --psy-rd 1.0:0.2

The tweaks are placed at the end of the command line so they can override any previous settings. Please note that the tweaks will be added to the command line of any and all quality levels.

NOTE TO ALL READING:
This setting makes it possible for you to screw yourself royally if you are not careful. If you use it, you do so at your own risk and I WILL NOT RESPOND TO BUG REPORTS that have failed encodes with tweaks. I also will not document this feature in the HIDDENOPTS file -- mainly because the vast majority of people really shouldn't be using it.

I'll probably put some checks in to prevent incompatibilities with Blu-Ray.

[Groucho2004]

@jdobbs

Perhaps the "bug" posted by "lican" is due to the following Per Amazon.com:



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Angels-Demons-Extended-Cut-Blu-ray/dp/B00243HD2Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1255303486&sr=8-1

[DGenerateKane]

Well the latest version fixed whatever problem I had with Pirates1, but I have a new problem with Pirates2. It got much further but still fails during encoding.

[17:41:48] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2
- Input BD size: 39.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:26.089]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:41:48] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:41:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [17:41:48] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 18)
- [17:41:48] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [17:41:48] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:41:49] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:41:49] Video Encode complete
- [17:41:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:41:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:41:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [17:41:51] Reencoding: VID_00013 (2 of 18)
- [17:41:51] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 217 frames
- [17:41:51] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:41:55] Video Encode complete
- [17:41:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:41:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:41:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [17:41:57] Reencoding: VID_00019 (3 of 18)
- [17:41:57] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 298 frames
- [17:41:57] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:42:03] Video Encode complete
- [17:42:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:42:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:42:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [17:42:05] Reencoding: VID_00027 (4 of 18)
- [17:42:05] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 393 frames
- [17:42:05] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:42:14] Video Encode complete
- [17:42:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:42:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:42:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [17:42:16] Reencoding: VID_00024 (5 of 18)
- [17:42:16] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,689 frames
- [17:42:16] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:42:50] Video Encode complete
- [17:42:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:42:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:42:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [17:42:54] Reencoding: VID_00018 (6 of 18)
- [17:42:54] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,176 frames
- [17:42:54] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:43:16] Video Encode complete
- [17:43:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:43:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:43:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [17:43:19] Reencoding: VID_00026 (7 of 18)
- [17:43:19] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,537 frames
- [17:43:19] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:43:54] Video Encode complete
- [17:43:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:43:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:43:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [17:43:58] Reencoding: VID_00010 (8 of 18)
- [17:43:58] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,057 frames
- [17:43:58] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:44:47] Video Encode complete
- [17:44:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:44:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:44:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [17:44:52] Reencoding: VID_00022 (9 of 18)
- [17:44:52] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,160 frames
- [17:44:52] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:45:32] Video Encode complete
- [17:45:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:45:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:45:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [17:45:38] Reencoding: VID_00012 (10 of 18)
- [17:45:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,824 frames
- [17:45:38] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:46:12] Video Encode complete
- [17:46:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:46:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:46:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [17:46:19] Reencoding: VID_00021 (11 of 18)
- [17:46:19] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,599 frames
- [17:46:19] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:47:36] Video Encode complete
- [17:47:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:47:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:47:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [17:47:45] Reencoding: VID_00017 (12 of 18)
- [17:47:45] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,697 frames
- [17:47:45] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:48:53] Video Encode complete
- [17:48:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:48:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:48:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [17:49:04] Reencoding: VID_00015 (13 of 18)
- [17:49:04] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,586 frames
- [17:49:04] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:50:15] Video Encode complete
- [17:50:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:50:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:50:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [17:50:26] Reencoding: VID_00016 (14 of 18)
- [17:50:26] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,612 frames
- [17:50:26] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:51:31] Video Encode complete
- [17:51:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:51:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:51:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [17:51:42] Reencoding: VID_00014 (15 of 18)
- [17:51:42] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,683 frames
- [17:51:42] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:52:51] Video Encode complete
- [17:52:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:52:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:52:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [17:53:12] Reencoding: VID_00023 (16 of 18)
- [17:53:12] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 14,173 frames
- [17:53:12] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:58:23] Video Encode complete
- [17:58:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:58:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:58:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [17:59:29] Reencoding: VID_00025 (17 of 18)
- [17:59:29] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 42,717 frames
- [17:59:29] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:15:05] Video Encode complete
- [18:15:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:15:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:15:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [18:25:22] Reencoding: VID_00001 (18 of 18)
- [18:25:22] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 216,720 frames
- Bitrate: 7,956 Kbs
- [18:25:22] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:25:22] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[18:49:23] - Failed video encode, aborted

[GaPony]

Well the latest version fixed whatever problem I had with Pirates1, but I have a new problem with Pirates2. It got much further but still fails during encoding.



You're still in that Windows 7 gray area of non-support... jdobbs really can't do much until until he's able to support that OS. I'm sure he still has his hands full chasing down general bugs that afflict everyone. Patience is a virtue, even when its required.

BD Rebuilder has NOT BEEN MODIFIED/TESTED FOR USE ON WINDOWS 7. If you run into issues with Windows 7, please don't post bug reports. It will be updated, but not until the final version of Windows 7 is released in October 2009.

[turbojet]

I've added two new hidden options to the next release. That way you can tweak any of the settings in any way you want to.

For example if you choose "High Quality (Default)", but want to use "umh" and as the motion estimation method and "psy-rd 1.0:0.2" you could add:

TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--me umh --psy-rd 1.0:0.2
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--me umh --psy-rd 1.0:0.2

The tweaks are placed at the end of the command line so they can override any previous settings. Please note that the tweaks will be added to the command line of any and all quality levels.

I'll probably put some checks in to prevent incompatibilities with Blu-Ray.

Thanks that will be even more helpful for advanced users.

Concerning restrictions, this may be an interesting post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1331521&highlight=--vbv-maxrate+15000#post1331521)

Were you plan on restricting something like this?
--ref 5+
--vbv-maxrate 18001+ --vbv-bufsize 18001+ for DVD5/9
--vbv-maxrate 40001+ --vbv-bufsize 30001+ for BD
--keyint 49+ if --vbv-maxrate 15000 or lower
--keyint 25+ if --vbv-maxrate 15001+
and will these custom settings be appended to CRF extra encodes if QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1?

Also is there a chance that custom sizing could be calculating 1 MB = 1000 KB instead of 1024 KB?

I did a couple tests with 5 different BD's
custom size 4480 2pass extras: 4,481,796 KB = 4,376 MB
custom size 4480 CRF extras: 4,512,492 KB = 4,406 MB
custom size 4555 CRF extras: 4,579,700 KB = 4472 MB
custom size 8145 2pass extras: 8,145,024 KB = 7954 MB
custom size 8305 crf extras: 8,332,000 KB = 8136 MB

With 2 pass extras the custom size was within 1000 KB if it's 1 MB = 1000 KB. With CRF extras it's off a bit.

I notice v0.30.04 doesn't have BDREBUILDER.INI anymore, thanks.

x264 r1286 released today looks like it could have an important vbv bug fix.

[dragonknight]

i got the same errors for OBSERVE_AND_REPORTand NOTORIOUS BIG as i did in v0.30.02 on v0.30.04.( errors shown on page 273)

[Willobee]

I have been using BD Rebuilder since version 29.01 upto version 30.04 and have not had any problems rebuilding several BD's until now. I am trying to rebuild The Godfather Part 3 region 1 and keep getting the same error. I thought I might have had a bad rip and ripped the disk again. Still the same error. I have FFDShow 2857 and Matroska Splitter 1.9.42.1 installed and have made the settings to FFDShow as instructed on the first page of this post. Here are the files from BD Rebuilder;

-----------------------
[00:01:46] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: GODFATHER_PART3
- Input BD size: 44.36 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:50:15.246]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[00:01:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:01:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [00:24:55] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [00:24:55] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 244,921 frames
- Bitrate: 11,995 Kbs
- [00:24:55] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[01:01:17] - Failed video encode, aborted

[Status]
LABEL=GODFATHER_PART3
VERSION=v0.30.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=47626125312
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=47626125312
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.506386942922761
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=10000000
M2TS_TARGET=24117248000
RATE=11995

[Options]
MODE=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\GODFATHER_PART3\
WORKING_PATH=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\BILL\MY DOCUMENTS\IMAGES\

[Bundy00]

Sorry if this questions has already been asked.

I did a "Watchmen" rebuild (full backup to BD25, german version) this weekend and everything works perfect, except:

I cannot switch off subtitles. If I choose "no subtitles" in the main menu the swedish subs are displayed. Of course all other subs (if I choose on another) are displayed correctly.

Bug in BD Rebuilder or my fault?

[jdobbs]

Were you plan on restricting something like this?
--ref 5+
--vbv-maxrate 18001+ --vbv-bufsize 18001+ for DVD5/9
--vbv-maxrate 40001+ --vbv-bufsize 30001+ for BD
--keyint 49+ if --vbv-maxrate 15000 or lower
--keyint 25+ if --vbv-maxrate 15001+
and will these custom settings be appended to CRF extra encodes if QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1

Don't know that I can agree with all this. Keyint must be less than one second. If, however, the maxrate goes below 15Mbs, then you can go up to 2 seconds. But, the effect of lowering maximum bitrate to less than 15Mbs (as opposed ot the current max of 17.5Mbs for BD-5/9) may have more negative impact than anything positive you'd get out of increasing keyint -- especially when you're only talking about the difference between 24 and 48 or 30/60.

The DPB is always limited to to 4 pictures (REF) for 1920x1080 (Level 4.1). For 720p and below it can go up to 6, but is there really any good reason to go above 4?

Actually I was planning on not allowing any changes to these settings... it just becomes too much of a maintenance/bug report nightmare. The biggest problem, as I've stated in the past, is that people never seem to acknowledge when a problem is self-inflicted -- because they are all convinced they are smarter than the rest of us.

[Persecutor]

I have installed BD Rebuilder versions 0.30.01 thru 03 and associated software. Used AnyDVD HD to rip Blu-ray to hard drive. Successfully re-encoded for DVD9 "Movie Only" the Soloist and Bedtime Stories. The first Blu-ray movie I ripped on this PC was Immortal and I have tried several times to re-encode lt with different versions of BD Rebuilder. The resultant movie every time has sound for introduction of ____________________ but the sound for the movie itself is missing. Is there some setting in DB Rebuilder I should select for Immortal's audio?

[08:58:32] BD Rebuilder v0.30.03 (beta)
- Source: IMMORTAL
- Input BD size: 17.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:05.679]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:58:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:58:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [09:05:46] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 3)
- [09:05:46] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 390 frames
- Bitrate: 9,038 Kbs
- [09:05:46] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:06:06] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:07:11] Video Encode complete
- [09:07:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:08:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:08:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [09:15:23] Reencoding: VID_00000 (2 of 3)
- [09:15:23] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 147,903 frames
- Bitrate: 9,192 Kbs
- [09:15:23] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:40:09] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:16:16] Video Encode complete
- [13:16:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:18:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [13:18:44] Reencoding: VID_00017 (3 of 3)
- [13:18:44] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 15 frames
- Bitrate: 783 Kbs
- [13:18:44] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:18:46] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:18:48] Video Encode complete
- [13:18:48] Multiplexing M2TS
[13:18:49]PHASE ONE complete
[13:18:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:18:49] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[13:22:26] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[13:22:26]JOB: IMMORTAL finished.

[Capsbackup]

@Persecutor;
What are you trying to play the movie back with? Standalone or PC, PowerDVD, etc... Also, if you play the BD-RB encoded file 00000.m2ts with MediaPlayer Classic, do you hear the audio?
If you open the 00000.m2ts file with tsMuxeR, does it show an audio file present?

[chudm]

jdobbs i need an advice, like you know, i commented before about some problems with music blurays (like foo fighters, elton john), after bd rebuilder works its done, no letters on option are displayed on the menu, i was wondering, if i do a movie only and use that 00000.m2ts on the original bluray, and burn it, maybe it should work as normal? cause i had only compressed the main movie, and everything else would be untouched, or it isnt so easy as i say? hope you can answer me, thx :), cause i had several music bluray i would like to backup, thx!

[dukefame]

hey JD.
Still trying to figure out the best way to correct an audio offset.
Basically, after rebuild , a feature length movie remains in sync for the first 1/3rd. then the sync drifts further and fyrther out.

Is there a one time fix, or does eash file require tweaking/

Thanks.

[DK]

Is there a one time fix, or does eash file require tweaking/


Could you possibly deal with a bad rip?
Can / have you tried a different ripping routine?

[jdobbs]

jdobbs i need an advice, like you know, i commented before about some problems with music blurays (like foo fighters, elton john), after bd rebuilder works its done, no letters on option are displayed on the menu, i was wondering, if i do a movie only and use that 00000.m2ts on the original bluray, and burn it, maybe it should work as normal? cause i had only compressed the main movie, and everything else would be untouched, or it isnt so easy as i say? hope you can answer me, thx :), cause i had several music bluray i would like to backup, thx! That won't work. If it were that simple you wouldn't need BD Rebuilder.

[jdobbs]

hey JD.
Still trying to figure out the best way to correct an audio offset.
Basically, after rebuild , a feature length movie remains in sync for the first 1/3rd. then the sync drifts further and fyrther out.

Is there a one time fix, or does eash file require tweaking/

Thanks. What is unique about your source, your method, or your system? I've done several hundred backups and have had no sync problems -- you have to be doing something different. If you tell me what that is, I may be able to help you.

[chudm]

That won't work. If it were that simple you wouldn't need BD Rebuilder.

what else can you suggest me? thx for any tip man :)

[setarip_old]

@dukefame

Hi!

1) What is your system configuration?

2) Are you playing back on your PC or on a standalone player? If on your PC, what software are you using for playback?

[turbojet]

Don't know that I can agree with all this. Keyint must be less than one second. If, however, the maxrate goes below 15Mbs, then you can go up to 2 seconds. But, the effect of lowering maximum bitrate to less than 15Mbs (as opposed ot the current max of 17.5Mbs for BD-5/9) may have more negative impact than anything positive you'd get out of increasing keyint -- especially when you're only talking about the difference between 24 and 48 or 30/60.

15 and 17.5 mbps max is very little difference for x264 in most cases and using almost half the amount of keyframes is more efficient. The only difference that may be noticeable rarely is not being able to fill a BD9 with content < 72 minutes. Where 17.5 mbps won't undersize until 65 minutes or less of content. I'm not suggesting that it be default but allowing people to use all compliant options would be a plus.

The DPB is always limited to to 4 pictures (REF) for 1920x1080 (Level 4.1). For 720p and below it can go up to 6, but is there really any good reason to go above 4?

IMO it's of no use going above --ref 4 but there are many that argue that. Using more for 720 or 480/576 might complicate things a lot but it's up to you. I was suggesting limiting all resoultions to 4.

Actually I was planning on not allowing any changes to these settings... it just becomes too much of a maintenance/bug report nightmare. The biggest problem, as I've stated in the past, is that people never seem to acknowledge when a problem is self-inflicted -- because they are all convinced they are smarter than the rest of us.

I understand your concern but with just a few restrictions all the reports except major undersize by someone settings --vbv-maxrate too low which can also be elimiinated with a restriction.

Frankly I would be content if you set high quality settings (only setting I use for final results) back to how they were originally or just allow a few changeable options through ini. With the latter I can see users coming back saying there settings weren't used even though they are fully compliant.

Also I did another full backup with 2 pass extras and output was again within 1000 KB if 1 MB = 1000 KB. I notice with CRF extras the more extras there are the more it goes over. Have you been able to look into seeing if 1 MB = 1000 KB?

[PurpleMan]

@jdobbs:

Are there any plans for feature enhancements in the near future? One that I'm personally waiting for is the ability to "blank" certain m2ts's (trailers, fbi warning, etc..) on full-disc backups (in a similar way that VOBBlanker does it for DVD).

Do you think that would happen soon?

[samtroy]

Short encoding question:

Is it qualitywise *absolutely safe* to use One-Pass CRF encoding (HQ) for BD-25 Movie-Only?

Or would it be better to use Two-Pass encoding even at those high bitrates? I suspect there would be no benefits except for an more exact output size, right?

[PurpleMan]

Short encoding question:

Is it qualitywise *absolutely safe* to use One-Pass CRF encoding (HQ) for BD-25 Movie-Only?

Or would it be better to use Two-Pass encoding even at those high bitrates? I suspect there would be no benefits except for an more exact output size, right?

2-pass encoding will always result in better quality. Only you can decide whether or not you see the difference, But I certainly do, especially on long (over 90mins) movies.

[Rumbah]

1 pass CRF and 2 pass use the same mechanics in x264 so for equal file size the quality is almost identical. Of course if your CRF encode is smaller, you'll get less quality. But I'll doubt that you'll notice any difference for 50-100kbit/s (if the CRF encode is slightly smaller) at these high bitrates so it should be safe to use the CRF mode.

It would be best to use a hard to encode sample (e.g. a very long action movie) and try both ways and compare the quality.

[PurpleMan]

1 pass CRF and 2 pass use the same mechanics in x264 so for equal file size the quality is almost identical.

Not really, bit distribution would be different.

[jdobbs]

Short encoding question:

Is it qualitywise *absolutely safe* to use One-Pass CRF encoding (HQ) for BD-25 Movie-Only?

Or would it be better to use Two-Pass encoding even at those high bitrates? I suspect there would be no benefits except for an more exact output size, right?CRF Encoding uses the exact same command line as two-pass. The only difference is that the bitrate is replaced by a CRF value. The only risk of CRF is possible oversizing/udersizing.

[jdobbs]

Not really, bit distribution would be different.True. But CRF has been optimized very well, and the difference isn't as great as some think.

Hmmm.... I wonder if there is a graph around anywhere in which the bit distribution has been analyzed for comparison between the two. I'm sure sombody has done that by now.

[PurpleMan]

True. But CRF has been optimized very well, and the difference isn't as great as some think.

Hmmm.... I wonder if there is a graph around anywhere in which the bit distribution has been analyzed for comparison between the two. I'm sure sombody has done that by now.

To my understanding, CRF will prefer assigning less bits to fast motion and more bits to slow motion (to accommodate for human eye perception).

To me, this sounds like a bad thing for quality fanatics, and a good thing for not very perceptive people. I'll admit, however, that I don't fully understand the way it operates so I could be wrong.

If there's a tool to analyze h264 streams, I'll make two encodes and compare the graphs.

[Dark Shikari]

To my understanding, CRF will prefer assigning less bits to fast motion and more bits to slow motion (to accommodate for human eye perception).

To me, this sounds like a bad thing for quality fanatics, and a good thing for not very perceptive people. I'll admit, however, that I don't fully understand the way it operates so I could be wrong.

If there's a tool to analyze h264 streams, I'll make two encodes and compare the graphs.No, both CRF and 2-pass use the exact same method of bit distribution.

[PurpleMan]

No, both CRF and 2-pass use the exact same method of bit distribution.

Are you saying that if I do a 2-pass encode and a CRF encode, and both (let's say) turn out the exact size, then they are both identical?

[Dark Shikari]

Are you saying that if I do a 2-pass encode and a CRF encode, and both (let's say) turn out the exact size, then they are both identical?Not literally identical, but generally quite close.

[PurpleMan]

Not literally identical, but generally quite close.

I see. When you say "quite close", where (in general) would I see differences?

Also, based on your comments, would it be correct to say that the only advantage of 2-pass mode is filesize accuracy?

Thanks for the explanations.

[Dark Shikari]

I see. When you say "quite close", where (in general) would I see differences?Nowhere in particular. The first few frames may be larger in CRF due to it taking time for CRF to adapt.Also, based on your comments, would it be correct to say that the only advantage of 2-pass mode is filesize accuracy?Yes.

[PurpleMan]

I see. Well, you learn something new every day! :)

Thank you!

[samtroy]

Very interesting, thanks for all the info!

[Persecutor]

@Persecutor;
What are you trying to play the movie back with? Standalone or PC, PowerDVD, etc... Also, if you play the BD-RB encoded file 00000.m2ts with MediaPlayer Classic, do you hear the audio?
If you open the 00000.m2ts file with tsMuxeR, does it show an audio file present?

Playing initially in my PC using Cyberlink PowerDVD 8 (use ImgBurn to convert to ISO and mount via Virtual CloneDrive 5.4.3.5 - if plays then I burn onto DVD9).

Have not ever used or downloaded MediaPlayer Classic or tsMixeR,

[Capsbackup]

Playing initially in my PC using Cyberlink PowerDVD 8 (use ImgBurn to convert to ISO and mount via Virtual CloneDrive 5.4.3.5 - if plays then I burn onto DVD9).

Have not ever used or downloaded MediaPlayer Classic or tsMixeR,

If you try MPC and the audio is heard, this can rule out a problem with BD-RB. PowerDVD is not always the best to check with.
If you want to avoid burning a coaster, you could try a backup to BD-5 (DVDRW), which will look very good for this movie. Then, if all is well, burn to BD-9.

[nelly09]

hey jdobbs, i have 4gb ddr3 ram, 2 days ago i bought 4 more gigs (2 x 2gb sticks) and added it on, and when i did an encode to bd25 movie only it finished with a result of a 3.26 gb file, i did other movies as well and they turned out smaller then what i had set it to, usually to less then 4 gb, the movie will play but it has huge pixelation issues, then i took out the 4gb newly purchased ram and encoded the same movie to bd25 and it came out fine, any help with this issue? the new ram is corsair and g skill ram was already on board, dont know if brand makes a difference

[GaPony]

The software desn't care what RAM you have, or how much... It sounds like a RAM or other PC problem. Mismatched RAM in a fast PC is not a good idea.

[Mr. Movies]

tsMuxeR is crashing when I run Rebuilder on the new X-Men Wolverine after an error when extracting audio/subs from [VID_00074]. My Rebuilder wasn't the most current so I upped it to v0.30.04 and it still crashes. I downloaded tsMuxeR v1.10.6 and placed that in the Tools folder but of course that didn't fix the issue.

All other movies I've ripped work in my currect configuration with exception to The Matrix which decodes fine but when it re-encodes the sound tracks get messed up default English moves to track 2 and track 1 becomes director or actors audio sub and is garbled. Has anyone ripped The Matrix OK or had this problem.

Here is the info I have from the X-Men Wolverine crash;

Windows Crash Window:
tsmuxer.exe has stopped working

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: tsmuxer.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4a077b02
Fault Modula Name: tsmuxer.exe
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 4a077b02
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00045794
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

XMEN_WOLVERINE.INF:
[Status]
LABEL=XMEN_WOLVERINE
VERSION=v0.30.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=25755804538
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=25265344512
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.935146083710762
RESIZE_1080=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
[00074]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=111111

BD-REBUILDER.LOG:
-----------------------
[13:51:44] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: XMEN_WOLVERINE
- Input BD size: 23.99 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:58:13.836]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:51:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:51:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- 12.1% complete
[13:53:57] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


LASTCMD.TXT:
"E:\Program Files (x86)\BD Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "E:\MOVIES\TEMP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset medium --qpmin=0 --bitrate 20000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "E:\MOVIES\TEMP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "E:\MOVIES\TEMP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.MKV"


BDREBUILDER.INI:
[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
RESIZE=0
ENCODER=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=1
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=18000
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
SD_CONVERT=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\MOVIES\BD\XMEN_WOLVERINE\
WORKING_PATH=E:\MOVIES\TEMP\

[turbojet]

Do you have subs selected? If so try disabling resize or disable the subs.

TSMuxer has problems resizing some subs.

Jdobbs said he was writing his own code to resize subs which should fix the problem.

[Persecutor]

If you try MPC and the audio is heard, this can rule out a problem with BD-RB. PowerDVD is not always the best to check with.
If you want to avoid burning a coaster, you could try a backup to BD-5 (DVDRW), which will look very good for this movie. Then, if all is well, burn to BD-9.

I downloaded and installed MPC HomeCinema X64. I was unable to play the AnyDVD HD ripped IMMORTAL.iso when it was mounted in Virtual CloneDrive as I am able with PowerDVD. The BD-RB recoded and ImgBurn engendered IMMORTAL.iso played in PowerDVD (still without sound) but not in MPC. The IMMORTAL.iso is only 4.3Gb (despite my selection of DVD9) instead of 7.8Gb as other BD-RB recoded iso are.

[Capsbackup]

Persecutor
If you open the 00000.m2ts file with MPC, not the ISO, does it play with sound?
MPC is just to check to see if that one .m2ts file plays with audio.

[GaPony]

I downloaded and installed MPC HomeCinema X64. I was unable to play the AnyDVD HD ripped IMMORTAL.iso when it was mounted in Virtual CloneDrive as I am able with PowerDVD. The BD-RB recoded and ImgBurn engendered IMMORTAL.iso played in PowerDVD (still without sound) but not in MPC. The IMMORTAL.iso is only 4.3Gb (despite my selection of DVD9) instead of 7.8Gb as other BD-RB recoded iso are.

Why are you ripping to an .iso? Just rip it to a folder..

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have noticed that my last few movie only backups to BD-5 with BD-RBV03002 and BD-RBV03004 have been using High Profile 4.0, where my previous backups with the pre-BD-RBV03000 versions used High Profile 4.1.
I did read the discussions on the previous few pages, but perhaps I missed if you were implementing a change on movie only BD5/9 backups to this 4.0 profile.
Full movie backup to BD-25 of this same movie is still High Profile 4.1. :confused:

[Persecutor]

Persecutor
If you open the 00000.m2ts file with MPC, not the ISO, does it play with sound?
MPC is just to check to see if that one .m2ts file plays with audio.

I opened the 00000.m2ts file with MPC, and although MPC said it was playing no video appeared nor was sound heard.

[Persecutor]

Why are you ripping to an .iso? Just rip it to a folder..

When I first downloaded BD-RB I found a guide in which the author always ripped with AnyDVD HD to .iso on hard drive and used a virtual drive to mount. Doing it that way I can test in PowerDVD if the AnyDVD .iso and later the BD-RB recoded .iso play completely. This especially helpful before burning to a DVD9 or BD25.

[Race Guy]

Speaking of 1 pass vs 2 pass, let's say I'm set to do a full backup to BD-25 at 2 pass HQ.

Is there a "switch" or a "hidden op" to limit the largest m2ts that's going to get the "2 pass treatment"? Something like "quicker encode for extras up to x MB large". The reason I ask is, there's been a few flicks I've done with very large "extras" like the one I'm currently processing.

On this particular flick, the first 7 VIDs identified for processing get blown thru with 1 pass. Then we hit VID 8 of 9 & it's 118,000 frames of 1080i. There's no reason to 2 pass it from my POV, but BD-RB thinks it should & it does! VID 9 of 9 on this particular example is 127,000 frames of 1080/24, so I'm probably doubling the process time for no good reason.

How can I stop those sized vids from getting 2 passed, jdobbs?

See ya!

[Capsbackup]

I opened the 00000.m2ts file with MPC, and although MPC said it was playing no video appeared nor was sound heard.

It would appear you do not have ffdshow set up properly. I would suggest reinstalling ffdshow and matroska splitter. Also, install Windows Media Player 11, if you don't already have that installed.

[Persecutor]

It would appear you do not have ffdshow set up properly. I would suggest reinstalling ffdshow and matroska splitter. Also, install Windows Media Player 11, if you don't already have that installed.

Can you tell me what settings you have in ffdshow? My programs are up to date.

[Capsbackup]

Can you tell me what settings you have in ffdshow? My programs are up to date.

h264/avc=libavcodec; mpeg2=libmpeg2; VC-1=disabled (if you have WMP11 installed)
Also, uninstall any other codec packs you may have installed.

[Persecutor]

h264/avc=libavcodec; mpeg2=libmpeg2; VC-1=disabled (if you have WMP11 installed)
Also, uninstall any other codec packs you may have installed.

I had h264/avc=disabled in ffdshow video decoder configeration. What about in ffdshow audio decoder configuration?

[marius1]

Has anyone gotten the "- [20:39:31] CorrectEPData() 00006 2008" error? Happens immediately after this: " - [20:33:57] Multiplexing M2TS"

V0.30.02

[GaPony]

You should be using version 30.04. See if you get the error with it.

[Mr. Movies]

Do you have subs selected? If so try disabling resize or disable the subs.

TSMuxer has problems resizing some subs.

Jdobbs said he was writing his own code to resize subs which should fix the problem.

Most probably that will work with Matrix but didn't work with Wolverine, tsMuxeR still crashes at 12.10% even if I disable subs or rip movie only with subs disabled.

Any other thoughts? Has anyone been able to transcode this movie?

[Sharc]

.....Has anyone been able to transcode this movie?
No problem here, movie only, 1280x720, including subs (Region B).

[DK]

Has anyone been able to transcode this movie?

Movie only, 2 audio streams, dvd-9, region b: flawless

[GaPony]

Movie Only, AC3, no subs, to BD9, Region 1.... no problem.

[Capsbackup]

Full movie backup to BD-25 and movie only to BD-5, Region 1 (A), perfect!!

[setarip_old]

@Mr. Movies

Hi!

Is the following information from your earlier post regarding a full disc copy or a movie-only copy?:

[13:51:44] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: XMEN_WOLVERINE
- Input BD size: 23.99 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:58:13.836]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB

[DGenerateKane]

I also had no problems with Wolverine Region A full BD-25 Backup.

[Sharc]

I got a problem now with retrieving the audio:

[09:00:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:00:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00505]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file C:\USERS\USER1\APPDATA\LOCAL\BD REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00505+00506+00509+00511+00512+00514+00515+00517+00518+00520+00521+00523+00524+00526+00527+05032+00530+00532+00533+00535+00536+00538+00539+00542+00545+05033+00548+00550+00551+00553+00554+00556+00557+00559.track_4352.dts
[09:00:15] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Could the problem be the path length?

[Mr. Movies]

There must be someting in my configuration goofed up if you all are able to run with out errors so I'll have to go back and look closer at my codecs and so on. Thanks for the feed back it really helps to know it should be working.

@Sharc
If your running Vista or 7 that could cause you problems I personally wouldn't output to my user/application data folders that's really for programs to use for user settings and is considered Windows system files area so it is protected somewhat. Make a temp folder in your root directory and output there not in APPDATA, USERS, WINDOWS, DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS, or PROGRAMDATA subfolders.

@setarip_old
The settings shown previously are for a full backup which is my prefered mode as I do like to have some of the special features in my backups that way I can archive my retail disc keeping it safe. But I have tried it both ways as stated in my secound post just didn't see a need to re-post all the same info with just that little change since the out come was exactly the same.

[Sharc]

@Sharc
If your running Vista or 7 that could cause you problems I personally wouldn't output to my user/application data folders that's really for programs to use for user settings and is considered Windows system files area so it is protected somewhat. Make a temp folder in your root directory and output there not in APPDATA, USERS, WINDOWS, DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS, or PROGRAMDATA subfolders.

This seems to have solved the problem. Thanks!
Strange, I have always been using the APPDATA/LOCAL folder in Vista and never had an issue. Looks like the problem popped up with the recent updates of Vista; I am not sure though.

[setarip_old]

@Mr. Movies[13:51:44] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: XMEN_WOLVERINE
- Input BD size: 23.99 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:58:13.836]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB Although I can't offer an explanation, I'd suggest that part of your problem may have to do with the indicated "Approximate total content" of only 1:58 for the full disc.

I say this because IMDB and multiple other sites indicate the movie-only running time to be 1:47 - which would leave only 11 minutes regarding extras and others. Can anyone verify the "approximate total content" indicated for their successful full disc rip of "Wolverine"?

[marius1]

You should be using version 30.04. See if you get the error with it.

I'm trying again with 30.04. I will know in a couple of days whether it worked or not.

[Sharc]

@Mr. MoviesAlthough I can't offer an explanation, I'd suggest that part of your problem may have to do with the indicated "Approximate total content" of only 1:58 for the full disc.

I say this because IMDB and multiple other sites indicate the movie-only running time to be 1:47 - which would leave only 11 minutes regarding extras and others. Can anyone verify the "approximate total content" indicated for their successful full disc rip of "Wolverine"?
Good point setarip_old.
Here my value for the full disc:
- Approximate total content: [03:39:26.936]
This looks different, doesn't it?

[setarip_old]

In light of all the effort by "jdobbs" (and Doom9 members aiding in beta testing) to track down and correct true bugs related to commercial BluRays, I hope another Gladiator-like "situation" hasn't arisen to waste "jdobbs" time...

[Guest]

For the unwashed, what do you mean by a "Gladiator-like situation"?

[Kakashi Sensei]

There was an invalid character in a file on the Gladiator BD that was on the newsgroups, caused a problem for some people trying to re-encode it with BD-Rebuilder... It was an illegal download situation and not a real bug.

[dukefame]

@dukefame

Hi!

1) What is your system configuration?

2) Are you playing back on your PC or on a standalone player? If on your PC, what software are you using for playback?

the fininsed disks are being played back on both a Panasonic bD rw and an LG bluray player.
The audio sync issue is noted exactly the same on both devices

[setarip_old]

@neuron2

Hi!

As long as you've asked:

"Kakakshi Sensei" has provided you with the essence of the "Gladiator situation" - As a consequence, "jdobbs" and beta testers spent a lot of time chasing their/our tails, trying to track down a bug that didn't exist on the legitimate commercial release.

Perhaps similarly, you may have read a while ago, that a pre-release "workprint" of "Wolverine" was leaked. The pre-release version was lacking, among other things, some final touches regarding special effects. According to the studio, this lack of refinement actually resulted in the bootlegged workprint running about 10 minutes LONGER than the final 107 minute release...

[Furiousflea]

In light of all the effort by "jdobbs" (and Doom9 members aiding in beta testing) to track down and correct true bugs related to commercial BluRays, I hope another Gladiator-like "situation" hasn't arisen to waste "jdobbs" time...

Guilty as charged over here on the Gladiator situation. But just an FYI that rip was 100% retail apart from the extra file with an invalid filename that appeard on it. I can't see why you mention the "Wolverine" workprint that was released in context with any of this though? :confused:

[setarip_old]

@Furiousflea

Hi!

The common point regarding both "Gladiator" and the "Wolverine" workprint (If, indeed, this proves to be the case with postings regarding "Wolverine") is source material that is other than purchased, commercial BluRay discs...

[setarip_old]

@dukefame

1) Does your original, commercial BluRay disc play back properly on the same two devices, or does it also exhibit eventual A/V asynchronous behavior?

2) What is the title and region of your original BluRay Disc?

[kanerulz69]

jdobbs: how come the output size is 16.4GB ? the original was only 24.8GB, i've done other movies around that size with BDRB and it never went that far undersized.

my settings are
Encoder Settings: Idle Priority, High Quality (Default)
Options: Target Size BD-25

Setup: (things that are checked)
Audio Languages To Keep:
English(eng)
Limit to one track for each language

Subtitle Languages To Keep:
English(eng)
Limit to one track for each language

General Encoding Options:
Remove WORKFILES after rebuild

Audio Encoding Options:
Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding



[Status]
LABEL=THE_LOST_BOYS
VERSION=v0.30.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=26668952324
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=26043906048
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.902022979222199
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=16
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00105]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=148470962
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=116416512
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00081]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=160192354
NSIZE=105394176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00095]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=179622708
NSIZE=38744064
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00103]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=180509433
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=140906496
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00100]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=208141990
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=171767808
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00094]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=209078593
NSIZE=55308288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00097]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=215523973
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=169469952
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00093]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=226153585
NSIZE=74360832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00092]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=332665844
NSIZE=96061440
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00096]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=671195155
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=527953920
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00099]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=710959214
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=572172288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00090]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=1146557166
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=903942144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00127]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=1187828657
NSIZE=291373056
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00126]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=1188903811
NSIZE=270237696
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00125]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=1191813376
NSIZE=304939008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00056]
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=0100000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=19653154044
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=13234169856
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

jdobbs: how come the output size is 16.4GB ? the original was only 24.8GB, i've done other movies around that size with BDRB and it never went that far undersized.

my settings are
Encoder Settings: Idle Priority, High Quality (Default)
Options: Target Size BD-25

Setup: (things that are checked)
Audio Languages To Keep:
English(eng)
Limit to one track for each language

Subtitle Languages To Keep:
English(eng)
Limit to one track for each language

General Encoding Options:
Remove WORKFILES after rebuild

Audio Encoding Options:
Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding
It looks like every single item undersized when it encoded. I'd would normally guess saturation -- but this version of BD-RB sets qpmin to 0....

[kanerulz69]

is there a way or setting i can do to fix this? set the target size higher or something?

[jdobbs]

is there a way or setting i can do to fix this? set the target size higher or something? You can -- but if it actually is saturation -- it won't change anything.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about from your INF file:

For 00127.M2TS, BD-RB passed a bitrate to X264 that should result in a final (muxed) filesize of over 1187MB:

M2TS_TARGET=1187828657

But, looking at the output, you see that the actual size came out to be a little under 300MB.

NSIZE=291373056

The only other possibility I can think of is if you stopped the job at some point -- changed the audio settings (removing something), and then resumed, and I'm not even positive that would do it. If it were a miscalculation of some type, it would show in pretty much every encode -- so I don't think that's the issue.

I assume you weren't using one-pass encoding? Also, I can't really tell if this was movie-only because you didn't post the LOG.

[kanerulz69]

You can -- but if it actually is saturation -- it won't change anything.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about from your INF file:

For 00127.M2TS, BD-RB passed a bitrate to X264 that should result in a final (muxed) filesize of over 1187MB:

M2TS_TARGET=1187828657

But, looking at the output, you see that the actual size came out to be a little under 300MB.

NSIZE=291373056

The only other possibility I can think of is if you stopped the job at some point -- changed the audio settings (removing something), and then resumed, and I'm not even positive that would do it. If it were a miscalculation of some type, it would show in pretty much every encode -- so I don't think that's the issue.

I assume you weren't using one-pass encoding? Also, I can't really tell if this was movie-only because you didn't post the LOG.

no i was using high quality default none of the options at the botton of that like 1 was was installed, i used 2pass, also this was full backup, not movie only. i guess i'll try making a folder and move some of the files there so bd-rb doesnt see them and encodes some and movie the other files back after its done and see if it is around the correct file size, thats the only choice i have, dont see needing 2 go back to a previous version of bd-rb, but i will if it dont work and see if i get a different filesize with an older version

[klas]

- [18:17:06] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[18:17:48]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

What happen with this?

Last encodes have this problem.

Thanks

[sidneysides]

Hi,
I have been experimenting with BDRebuilder with a Jamiroquai concert full backup to 25GB
The orginal is a shade over 40GB.
Whichever setting I use (high speed 25GB, default 2-pass etc) the smoothness of the original is not there. It is originally a 1080i according to Rebuilder but the resolution is 1920x1080 - isn't that 1080p?
ANyway, on playback it seems a lot less fluid. The movements are a little jerky and blurry whereas the original was smooth. Could it be something to do with interlacing / deinterlacing? Have I got it right - should it be 1080p at that resolution?? (I'm new to this so don't flame me!)

Screenshots attached...


After following the setup instructions I can't get WMV11 to install on Windows 7 - don't know whether this may affect it or not.
My other backups seem fine - just this one that's frustrating me.

An aside issue - anyone using High SPeed mode when doing full backups to BD25? Just wondered if you noticed any difference.

Cheers in advance

[hudsucker]

- [18:17:06] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[18:17:48]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

What happen with this?

Last encodes have this problem.

Thanks

Same problem for me with v.0.30.04:

- [22:33:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[04:26:43]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

Setting: Full backup mode with highest encoder quality.

[kanerulz69]

You can -- but if it actually is saturation -- it won't change anything.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about from your INF file:

For 00127.M2TS, BD-RB passed a bitrate to X264 that should result in a final (muxed) filesize of over 1187MB:

M2TS_TARGET=1187828657

But, looking at the output, you see that the actual size came out to be a little under 300MB.

NSIZE=291373056

The only other possibility I can think of is if you stopped the job at some point -- changed the audio settings (removing something), and then resumed, and I'm not even positive that would do it. If it were a miscalculation of some type, it would show in pretty much every encode -- so I don't think that's the issue.

I assume you weren't using one-pass encoding? Also, I can't really tell if this was movie-only because you didn't post the LOG.

[13:25:28] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: THE_LOST_BOYS
- Input BD size: 24.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:05:52.604]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:25:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:25:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
- [13:25:39] Reencoding: VID_00105 (1 of 16)
- [13:25:39] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:25:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [13:26:04] Reencoding: VID_00081 (2 of 16)
- [13:32:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [13:33:11] Reencoding: VID_00095 (3 of 16)
- [13:34:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
- [13:34:48] Reencoding: VID_00103 (4 of 16)
- [13:34:48] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:35:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [13:35:19] Reencoding: VID_00100 (5 of 16)
- [13:35:19] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:35:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [13:35:51] Reencoding: VID_00094 (6 of 16)
- [13:38:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00097]
- [13:38:29] Reencoding: VID_00097 (7 of 16)
- [13:38:29] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:38:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
- [13:39:02] Reencoding: VID_00093 (8 of 16)
- [13:41:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [13:42:08] Reencoding: VID_00092 (9 of 16)
- [13:46:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
- [13:46:50] Reencoding: VID_00096 (10 of 16)
- [13:46:50] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:47:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00099]
- [13:48:47] Reencoding: VID_00099 (11 of 16)
- [13:48:47] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:49:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
- [13:51:22] Reencoding: VID_00090 (12 of 16)
- [13:51:22] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:53:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00127]
- [13:54:29] Reencoding: VID_00127 (13 of 16)
- [14:02:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00126]
- [14:03:35] Reencoding: VID_00126 (14 of 16)
- [14:11:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00125]
- [14:12:45] Reencoding: VID_00125 (15 of 16)
- [14:20:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00056]
- [14:38:50] Reencoding: VID_00056 (16 of 16)
- [14:38:50] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[15:02:22]PHASE ONE complete
[15:02:22]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:02:22] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:03:43] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[15:03:45]JOB: THE_LOST_BOYS finished.

[setarip_old]

@klas, @hudsucker

Hi!

It might prove helpful if you stated the title and region of your original BluRay discs that have resulted in the problems you've indicated...

[Capsbackup]

@kanerulz69;
When you read the log file, BD-RB is not reencoding any files, just stripping audio/subs and rebuilding. No quality change is taking place. :)
EDIT:
Only some files are reencoded. :p

[kanerulz69]

The only other possibility I can think of is if you stopped the job at some point -- changed the audio settings (removing something), and then resumed, and I'm not even positive that would do it. If it were a miscalculation of some type, it would show in pretty much every encode -- so I don't think that's the issue.

I assume you weren't using one-pass encoding? Also, I can't really tell if this was movie-only because you didn't post the LOG.

the only way i was able to get it up to 22gb was going to the folder where the original lost boys rip folder was and copied the STREAM files that were encoded one at the time and pasted them over the ones BD-RB did and did that til it got to 22GB but never had to do that with any other movies.

[mikeonecl]

i have experienced a problem with encoding audio, i convert to dvd-9 and i don't select 448 kbs for AC3-encoding, also i dont select the option dot not reencode AC3. Before version 30.01 not problem, but from this version i cannot play on standalone, the sound on my receiver is identified like Dolby Digital but the sound is bad, have up and down volume.

is necesary to select 448 kbs on dvd-9???

what is the best setting for dvd-9???

thanks in advance, and i sorry for my english

best regard from Chile.

[jdobbs]

i have experienced a problem with encoding audio, i convert to dvd-9 and i don't select 448 kbs for AC3-encoding, also i dont select the option dot not reencode AC3. Before version 30.01 not problem, but from this version i cannot play on standalone, the sound on my receiver is identified like Dolby Digital but the sound is bad, have up and down volume.

is necesary to select 448 kbs on dvd-9???

what is the best setting for dvd-9???

thanks in advance, and i sorry for my english

best regard from Chile.You can choose 448Kbs or use 640Kbs (for 5.1)

[jdobbs]

@kanerulz69;
When you read the log file, BD-RB is not reencoding any files, just stripping audio/subs and rebuilding. No quality change is taking place. :)
EDIT:
Only some files are reencoded. :p Which, of course, explains the undersize... when you take out the audio that was selected for removal, it is already small enough to fit. BD-RB isn't going to reencode the original video just to make it larger -- that's crazy talk.

Of course if you wanted to do something ridiculously silly like that you could set "FORCE_ENCODE=1" in the INI.

[GaPony]

I'm thoroughly confused why some people are more concerned about size on the disc rather than Video Quality...

[Fullasoul]

Hey all,

Recently I've had a couple of rebuilds yield some sync problems. Each time, it was with extras (featurettes, trailers, etc.) and not the main feature. Is there a known issue that would yield such a problem? Or, does anyone have any suggestions as to what might cause such a thing?

[jdobbs]

Hey all,

Recently I've had a couple of rebuilds yield some sync problems. Each time, it was with extras (featurettes, trailers, etc.) and not the main feature. Is there a known issue that would yield such a problem? Or, does anyone have any suggestions as to what might cause such a thing? I've not seen any audio issue on any sources I've done. Can someone give me an example of a disc (Region A) and settings (the INI file) that result in audio sync issues?

[jdobbs]

Hi,
I have been experimenting with BDRebuilder with a Jamiroquai concert full backup to 25GB
The orginal is a shade over 40GB.
Whichever setting I use (high speed 25GB, default 2-pass etc) the smoothness of the original is not there. It is originally a 1080i according to Rebuilder but the resolution is 1920x1080 - isn't that 1080p?
ANyway, on playback it seems a lot less fluid. The movements are a little jerky and blurry whereas the original was smooth. Could it be something to do with interlacing / deinterlacing? Have I got it right - should it be 1080p at that resolution?? (I'm new to this so don't flame me!)

Screenshots attached...


After following the setup instructions I can't get WMV11 to install on Windows 7 - don't know whether this may affect it or not.
My other backups seem fine - just this one that's frustrating me.

An aside issue - anyone using High SPeed mode when doing full backups to BD25? Just wondered if you noticed any difference.

Cheers in advance No. It shouldn't be 1080p. HD in 1080 comes in two flavors, 1920x1080i and 1920x1080p.

[Fullasoul]

I've not seen any audio issue on any sources I've done. Can someone give me an example of a disc (Region A) and settings (the INI file) that result in audio sync issues?

The 2 I've seen it on thus far are My Bloody Valentine (remake) and Dead & Buried. In both cases, the features themselves were fine, but trailers/featurettes were severely out of sync (5 seconds or more)

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=7910
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450

[pakkman]

I have had sync problems with the main movie on "Drag Me to Hell". If I copy movie only it's in sync and if I do 1:1 (48GB) in sync, but if backup whole disc to 25 GB the movie is out of sync from the beging to the end. Any ideas?

[sidneysides]

No. It shouldn't be 1080p. HD in 1080 comes in two flavors, 1920x1080i and 1920x1080p.

Oh ok. Can there be another reason why it looks less fluid? Something to do with deinterlacing? even if I do a movie only encode I still get this problem. The best way I can describe it is like in the old days when you used to get the field order wrong in CCE. Its not as bad as that but similar. For example, when the drummer is drumming, there is a blurry effect in his drumsticks beating that was not there in the original. Frame rate poroblem possibly (My TV is a 1080i Samsing 32" PAL if that helps, but obviously they all do PAL / NTSC these days anyway)

[meadrocks]

W/ 30.04, Snow White, Region 1, When I select Play Movie I have 2 options, orig 4x3, and another option of Disney View. The Disney View puts still images in the bookend areas, kind of a nice feature, instead of having black there. However in BD-RB when I select Movie Only, Alternate Playlist shows 2 playlists. I ran both thru BD-RB, the first one was the 4x3 version, the 2nd was an extras on the disk. How can I get the Disney View version as a movie only? Thanks jdobbs.

[klas]

Same problem for me with v.0.30.04:

- [22:33:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[04:26:43]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

Setting: Full backup mode with highest encoder quality.

I think I solved the problem. In ffdshow video decoder settings click on
H264/AVC = ffmpeg-mt

Regards

[mikeonecl]

You can choose 448Kbs or use 640Kbs (for 5.1)

on version 29.05 none problem with audio, but if i am use the same configuration without change on newest version, the audio cannot play on my receiver.

what is the problem, may be a bug???

[setarip_old]

@meadrocks

Hi!

I'm guessing that the "bookend" static images may actually be contained in a subpic file...

[cruisinxx7]

My movie encode fails immediately because BD Rebuilder is trying to create a file name that is larger than Windows can handle. Maximum file name is 260 characters (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247(VS.85).aspx) and the file name in the below log is 275 characters.

-----------------------
[07:31:06] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: AVP2
- Input BD size: 23.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:49.873]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:31:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:31:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file H:\BDTEMP\WORKFILES\00010+00030+00011+00031+00012+00032+00013+00033+00014+00034+00015+00035+00016+00036+00017+00037+00018+00038+00019+00039+00020+00040+00021+00041+00022+00042+00023+00043+00024+00044+00025+00045+00026+00046+00027+00047+00028+00048+00029+00049.track_4352.dts
[07:31:09] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[Race Guy]

I've not seen any audio issue on any sources I've done. Can someone give me an example of a disc (Region A) and settings (the INI file) that result in audio sync issues?

Here's one jdobbs! Full backup to BD-9. Everything basically default except I use an 8150 target. For encode, I have quick xtras, 2 pass HQ on main.

Everything is great until we get to the special features. They're all good except for all 3 trailers & one old documentary. Those 4 are WAY OOS....., like 3 to 5 seconds!

The OOS Vid#'s are: 0032, 0033, 0037 & 0051

Also if I recall, in the "streams" box, there was a couple of vids with asterisks behind them. BUT, those * vids ended up fine.

[Status]
LABEL=CASABLANCA_1942_DD1.0_192K_23161MB
VERSION=v0.30.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24274306884
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24087164928
TARGET_SIZE=8598323200
REDUCTION=.349197644020881
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=16
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00038]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=21455
NSIZE=43008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3919774
NSIZE=2402304
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4149340
NSIZE=2537472
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=5820661
NSIZE=6930432
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00035]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=29935747
NSIZE=25165824
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00051]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=32523185
NSIZE=32913408
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00032]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=40465716
NSIZE=40525824
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00012]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=42699150
NSIZE=20121600
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00033]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=51315359
NSIZE=37914624
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00036]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=88534978
NSIZE=83927040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00028]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=120521795
NSIZE=84221952
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00050]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=148179053
NSIZE=133128192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00037]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=330921634
NSIZE=367921152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00030]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=616700427
NSIZE=507457536
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00029]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1483616330
NSIZE=1105201152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=1111
M2TS_TARGET=5960769724
RATE=6820
NSIZE=5839632384
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

Here's one jdobbs! Full backup to BD-9. Everything basically default except I use an 8150 target. For encode, I have quick xtras, 2 pass HQ on main.

Everything is great until we get to the special features. They're all good except for all 3 trailers & one old documentary. Those 4 are WAY OOS....., like 3 to 5 seconds!

The OOS Vid#'s are: 0032, 0033, 0037 & 0051

Also if I recall, in the "streams" box, there was a couple of vids with asterisks behind them. BUT, those * vids ended up fine.
Thanks. I have "CASABLANCA", so I'll do some testing. Unfortunately I've been really busy in my "real paying job" and haven't been able to spend much time on BD-RB... hopefully I'll get caught up soon. Can you post the BDREBUILDER.INI file you used to encode so I can use the same settings? It's located in the same folder as BD_REBUILDER.EXE.

[jdobbs]

on version 29.05 none problem with audio, but if i am use the same configuration without change on newest version, the audio cannot play on my receiver.

what is the problem, may be a bug???Hmmm... I looked at the changes for the next release (v0.30.01) and I didn't see anything that would have any effect on the playback of audio.

[marius1]

I told BD Rebuilder not to re-encode AC3 but it looks like it's spending at least a few min processing the file:

- [15:08:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:11:38] Multiplexing M2TS

Is that normal?

- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640

[meadrocks]

@meadrocks

Hi!

I'm guessing that the "bookend" static images may actually be contained in a subpic file...

So how can I get BD-RB to back it up?

[Race Guy]

Thanks. I have "CASABLANCA", so I'll do some testing. Unfortunately I've been really busy in my "real paying job" and haven't been able to spend much time on BD-RB... hopefully I'll get caught up soon. Can you post the BDREBUILDER.INI file you used to encode so I can use the same settings? It's located in the same folder as BD_REBUILDER.EXE.

Like I said, pretty much default, with an 8200 target, plus quick extras & 2P HQ for encode. With that 8200 target, the project ended up at "7.89 GB (8,477,086,476 bytes)".

I recently dialed my target down to 8150 'cause that 7.89GB number was about 65MB short of oversize.

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=8200
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8200
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=F:\Z\BLU RAY\
SOURCE_PATH=D:\Z\BLU RAY\CASABLANCA_1942_DD1.0_192K_23161MB

[meadrocks]

@meadrocks

Hi!

I'm guessing that the "bookend" static images may actually be contained in a subpic file...

The bookend images change thru the movie, different scenes have different images. It's not 1 for the entire movie. Even so, it doesn't sound like BD-RB is ready to handle a movie only w/ this 'feature' yet.

[setarip_old]

@meadrocksSo how can I get BD-RB to back it up?By including/selecting the applicable subpic stream (If my guess is correct) in your BD-RB setup for this disc.

By doing so, when playing your burned BD-RB BluRay disc, hopefully, you'll simply have to use your remote or keyboard to select the subtitle stream...

The bookend images change thru the movie, different scenes have different images. It's not 1 for the entire movie.Yes, so what's your point? That's the same type of behavior you see with text-like subtitles...

(My reference to "static" images meant STILL versus MOVING images...)

[ron spencer]

I just tried transformers 2 to bd-25 movie only....all was ok..perfect, except one spot on the movie has about 1 second of a series of macroblocks all along the bottom of the encode. Any idea why this would occur. It does not appear in the original..only in the encode. other than that, perfect.

[Capsbackup]

I just tried transformers 2 to bd-25 movie only....all was ok..perfect, except one spot on the movie has about 1 second of a series of macroblocks all along the bottom of the encode. Any idea why this would occur. It does not appear in the original..only in the encode. other than that, perfect.

At what time into the movie does this occur? I did not see anything on mine. Unless I blinked at that moment. :p

[ron spencer]

18:24 at bottom of frame...again it is not there on original rip, so occurred during encode I guess....is it possible to redo encode with same stats file? Took a long time to encode...looks perfect except for that...bizarre.

[jdobbs]

18:24 at bottom of frame...again it is not there on original rip, so occurred during encode I guess....is it possible to redo encode with same stats file? Took a long time to encode...looks perfect except for that...bizarre. I just bought that one today. I'll run it through and see if I get anything similar. Unfortunately, while you can reuse the stats file, you would also need the file that is used for mb-tree -- and BD-RB automatically removes that after a successful encode (because it's rather large).

[ron spencer]

maybe it is just at my end...who knows....really perfect except for that 1 sec part LOL...but is noticeable.

Maybe as a suggestion, if I may, can you make it so that mb-tree thing is not removed. I have a ton of drives...perhaps an option to specify where it can be stored so one could use it later?

nice program though....congrats so far!!!

one thing I did do is update x264 to 1301, but I doubt that should make a difference for 1 sec or so

[jdobbs]

maybe it is just at my end...who knows....really perfect except for that 1 sec part LOL...but is noticeable.

Maybe as a suggestion, if I may, can you make it so that mb-tree thing is not removed. I have a ton of drives...perhaps an option to specify where it can be stored so one could use it later?

nice program though....congrats so far!!!

one thing I did do is update x264 to 1301, but I doubt that should make a difference for 1 sec or soI don't think it's an issue with 1301, I've been testing it since it was released also, but I guess you never know.

[Dark Shikari]

I just tried transformers 2 to bd-25 movie only....all was ok..perfect, except one spot on the movie has about 1 second of a series of macroblocks all along the bottom of the encode. Any idea why this would occur.Could be a VBV issue.

[jdobbs]

Could be a VBV issue.Do you mean the processing -- or the could it be the setting used?

[nelly09]

what does this mean? " - Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding." everytime this shows up the end result is audio sync issues, 3 times this happened in BD9 movie only

[Dark Shikari]

Do you mean the processing -- or the could it be the setting used?Neither; x264 will react strongly if it ever nears a VBV underflow.

[mikeonecl]

Hmmm... I looked at the changes for the next release (v0.30.01) and I didn't see anything that would have any effect on the playback of audio.

on others threads i look problems like order of channels on encoder, can you chech this??

thanks in advance

[Sharc]

My movie encode fails immediately because BD Rebuilder is trying to create a file name that is larger than Windows can handle. Maximum file name is 260 characters (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247(VS.85).aspx) and the file name in the below log is 275 characters.

-----------------------
[07:31:06] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: AVP2
- Input BD size: 23.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:49.873]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:31:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:31:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file H:\BDTEMP\WORKFILES\00010+00030+00011+00031+00012+00032+00013+00033+00014+00034+00015+00035+00016+00036+00017+00037+00018+00038+00019+00039+00020+00040+00021+00041+00022+00042+00023+00043+00024+00044+00025+00045+00026+00046+00027+00047+00028+00048+00029+00049.track_4352.dts
[07:31:09] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I guess I run into the same problem here
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1335364#post1335364
Such long concatenated strings seem to be not so unusual for discs containing extended version and theatre version.
I was lucky though that by shortening the path I could just make it fit.

[jdobbs]

what does this mean? " - Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding." everytime this shows up the end result is audio sync issues, 3 times this happened in BD9 movie only It means you don't have the primary decoder(s) configured properly using FFDSHOW/HAALI (see the first post of this thread)-- so it is switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding as a backup rather than saying "encoding failed".

As for audio sync issues -- I'd need a lot more information like "what disc", "what settings", "what version", "status log", "INF file", and any other appropriate details so I can see if FFMS2 is having problems with that source.

[jdobbs]

on others threads i look problems like order of channels on encoder, can you chech this??

thanks in advanceThat wouldn't have any effect on sync.

[ron spencer]

Could be a VBV issue.

can this occur only in one spot though? Maybe there are others..who knows. Is there a way to see for sure? Not sure if under/overflows logged anywhere or not

[Dark Shikari]

can this occur only in one spot though? Maybe there are others..who knows. Is there a way to see for sure? Not sure if under/overflows logged anywhere or notSure, it can occur only in one spot. The current algorithm is very good, so if it fails, it will likely fail rarely.

Some notes about VBV: a slow firstpass will significantly improve VBV on the second pass. 1-pass VBV is probably more accurate than 2-pass with a fast first pass. Finally, very large numbers of threads will reduce the accuracy of VBV.

[Capsbackup]

18:24 at bottom of frame...again it is not there on original rip, so occurred during encode I guess....is it possible to redo encode with same stats file? Took a long time to encode...looks perfect except for that...bizarre.

Definately not there on mine! I used 2 pass mode, high quality (default).

[vamsiklak]

hey fellows
Alot of good information
iam good fan of BD Rebuilder

iam just wondering
i wanna backup my bluray to dvd9
i did with my transformer2 with ac3 audio , works great
now my question is when iam want to make dvd9 from my bluray
I want to keeo HD audio(true-hd,dts-hd,dts-hd ma,lcpm,dts)
can i make a back up to dvd9 with rest HD audio codecs not only with or mutli audio formats ac3 format

[Chiamos]

Definately not there on mine! I used 2 pass mode, high quality (default).

Definitely not here either! Full Movie (Everything), BD-25, Hi-Speed, One pass ABR. Completed in 2 hours and 12 minutes with an almost 2 year old Stock Pentium Quad Q6700. :) Taking the shortest path.

Amazing Quality! Best Ever!! :D

[nelly09]

It means you don't have the primary decoder(s) configured properly using FFDSHOW/HAALI (see the first post of this thread)-- so it is switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding as a backup rather than saying "encoding failed".

As for audio sync issues -- I'd need a lot more information like "what disc", "what settings", "what version", "status log", "INF file", and any other appropriate details so I can see if FFMS2 is having problems with that source.

LABEL=EAST_PROM
VERSION=v0.30.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=20597569536
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=20597569536
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.402680333012276
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00110]
AUDIO=100
PGS=111000
M2TS_TARGET=8294236160
RATE=9428
NSIZE=7476252672
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Movie only to DVD-9 using 30.04, idle priority, highest quality(very slow), i didnt change any other settings, im sorry but i dont know what INF file is

[GaPony]

hey fellows
Alot of good information
iam good fan of BD Rebuilder

iam just wondering
i wanna backup my bluray to dvd9
i did with my transformer2 with ac3 audio , works great
now my question is when iam want to make dvd9 from my bluray
I want to keeo HD audio(true-hd,dts-hd,dts-hd ma,lcpm,dts)
can i make a back up to dvd9 with rest HD audio codecs not only with or mutli audio formats ac3 format

You're likey to have more audio than the BD9 (DL DVD) disc can accomodate, leaving no room for the movie itself.

[DQL]

Thanks. That is the most recent version according to SourceForge -- apparently I was using an older version (SVN). The next release will include v0.0.8

The most recent version of BD Rebuilder 0.30.04 still seems to be coming with the "SVN" version of aften, which crashes on my XP machine. Upgrading to the most recent 0.0.8 version of aften fixed the problem.

[ron spencer]

well I tried transformers 2 again...movie only one pass abr quick...no issues this time. Must have been a weird encoder problem.

You know, the quick one pass seems to look just as good (ABR) as the high quality many hours encode on my 50" plasma. Why would this be?

[Fullasoul]

Out of curiosity, has anyone managed to get the picture-in-picture type tracks (sometimes they're trivia tracks like on Halloween, sometimes they're actual full-motion video like on Friday the 13th: Killer Cut) to work? So far I only own a couple of discs that have that, but none ever work after being backed up to DVD9. Anyone else have better luck than me yet?

[Capsbackup]

Out of curiosity, has anyone managed to get the picture-in-picture type tracks (sometimes they're trivia tracks like on Halloween, sometimes they're actual full-motion video like on Friday the 13th: Killer Cut) to work? So far I only own a couple of discs that have that, but none ever work after being backed up to DVD9. Anyone else have better luck than me yet?

Probably an AVCHD compatibility issue, or maybe not supported to DVD media. No problems with PiP on BD-25 media on my full movie backups. I do movie only backups to BD5/9 media, and my full movie backups to BD-25 media.

[Capsbackup]

well I tried transformers 2 again...movie only one pass abr quick...no issues this time. Must have been a weird encoder problem.

You know, the quick one pass seems to look just as good (ABR) as the high quality many hours encode on my 50" plasma. Why would this be?

x264, one great encoder!!
BD-RB, great program!!
Thanks again to Dark Shikari and the x264 team.
And jdobbs, all this time and effort to create another great backup program. And still all free!!
:thanks:

[jdobbs]

The most recent version of BD Rebuilder 0.30.04 still seems to be coming with the "SVN" version of aften, which crashes on my XP machine. Upgrading to the most recent 0.0.8 version of aften fixed the problem. The key question would be "why is it crashing on your system?" -- because the vast majority of BD-RB users are on XP -- and they are not crashing. If I recall correctly (which isn't guaranteed) -- I tried that version and and it had issues, convincing me to go back. It's been a while, though, so I'm not sure.

[Update]January 3rd, 2009 - v0.17.13
- Updated AFTEN to the most recent SVN version.

July 8th, 2009 - v0.25.01
- Regressed the version of AFTEN in order to prevent
hangs on some AVS sources.

[Fullasoul]

Probably an AVCHD compatibility issue, or maybe not supported to DVD media. No problems with PiP on BD-25 media on my full movie backups. I do movie only backups to BD5/9 media, and my full movie backups to BD-25 media.

Hmm...definately not a media issue, since the capability is absent even just playing the output directory from hard disk.

I asked about this a few months back and the impression I remember getting was that it was fairly common for such tracks NOT to work. I just figured, with months passed, I would ask again and see what people say. Glad to see your BD25's retain the capability....has anyone else had positive results with PiP tracks on DVD9 backups?

[Capsbackup]

Hmm...definately not a media issue, since the capability is absent even just playing the output directory from hard disk.

I asked about this a few months back and the impression I remember getting was that it was fairly common for such tracks NOT to work. I just figured, with months passed, I would ask again and see what people say. Glad to see your BD25's retain the capability....has anyone else had positive results with PiP tracks on DVD9 backups?

AVCHD issue, not DVD media issue. AVCHD may not support PiP.

[marius1]

I told BD Rebuilder not to re-encode AC3 but it looks like it's spending at least a few min processing the file:

- [15:08:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:11:38] Multiplexing M2TS

Is that normal?

- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640

jdobbs? any idea what it's doing for 3 min if it's not re-encoding the ac3? thx

[GaPony]

Checking to see what audio tracks exist and whether or not it needs to do anything.....maybe? Then a quick smoke break before the next step. :)

You're not telling it to assume everything is AC3, only to not reencode it.

[JohnnyB.Good]

For Blu-rays that have 2 versions of the movie, ie. Dark City or Drag Me to Hell... Is there a way to use the full back-up option to keep the menus yet eliminate one of the versions?

I tried deleting the video entirely and adding a redundant .m2ts file and renamed to the original file number but it makes my blu-ray player crash occasionally depending on what I do in the menu, a bug that's probably more my fault than BD-Rebuilder's doing.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

For Blu-rays that have 2 versions of the movie, ie. Dark City or Drag Me to Hell... Is there a way to use the full back-up option to keep the menus yet eliminate one of the versions?

I tried deleting the video entirely and adding a redundant .m2ts file and renamed to the original file number but it makes my blu-ray player crash occasionally depending on what I do in the menu, a bug that's probably more my fault than BD-Rebuilder's doing.

Thanks.No. But it will likely be included in a future version.

[chudm]

No. But it will likely be included in a future version.

awaiting that :devil: what about deselecting some extras? ehh sorry about this post, this doesnt belongs here :p

[vamsiklak]

You're likey to have more audio than the BD9 (DL DVD) disc can accomodate, leaving no room for the movie itself.

hey Thankyou for repy
Iunderstand that
the way i want to create is dvd9 with ac3+moive one disc
true-hd+movie one dvd9
i wanna create multiple discs

[hudsucker]

Originally Posted by hudsucker
Same problem for me with v.0.30.04:

- [22:33:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[04:26:43]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

Setting: Full backup mode with highest encoder quality.


I think I solved the problem. In ffdshow video decoder settings click on
H264/AVC = ffmpeg-mt

Regards

Thanks, but changing the settings in ffdshow did not work for me. Same crash as before. Anyway, I´ll have a try with the next version.

[setarip_old]

@hudsucker

Hi!

Again, What's the title and region of your problematic original BluRay disc?

Other members might be able to help you (or determine the nature of a new bug) if we knew this information...

[hudsucker]

@hudsucker

Hi!

Again, What's the title and region of your problematic original BluRay disc?

Other members might be able to help you (or determine the nature of a new bug) if we knew this information...

Hi setarip,

the Blu-ray is `Angel & Demons` region B.

I have remuxed the movie with TsMuxer before to see if I can avoid the reencoding process for BD-R 25. Maybe that´s part of the problem, but I have done that several times before with other discs and never encountered a similar problem.

Anyway, it´s just a test as I have the original disc to watch the movie, but it is still a bit weird that it doesnt´t work like so many times before...


Thanks,
hudsucker

[setarip_old]

It's only cold comfort to you, but you should know that member "lican" appeared to have encountered the same problem with the same disc at:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1333638&postcount=5563

[jdobbs]

Here's one jdobbs! Full backup to BD-9. Everything basically default except I use an 8150 target. For encode, I have quick xtras, 2 pass HQ on main.

Everything is great until we get to the special features. They're all good except for all 3 trailers & one old documentary. Those 4 are WAY OOS....., like 3 to 5 seconds!

The OOS Vid#'s are: 0032, 0033, 0037 & 0051

Also if I recall, in the "streams" box, there was a couple of vids with asterisks behind them. BUT, those * vids ended up fine.Thanks for the info. I ran this through and was able to repeat the issue. It appears I wasn't checking far enough into the M2TS in all cases to find the flag sequences that indicate pulldown and on some sources it wasn't detecting it properly. I've corrected it for the next release.

[chudm]

Thanks for the info. I ran this through and was able to repeat the issue. It appears I wasn't checking far enough into the M2TS in all cases to find the flag sequences that indicate pulldown and on some sources it wasn't detecting it properly. I've corrected it for the next release.

great news :)

[chudm]

hey jdobbs did u checked the issues on the menu when a full backup to bd25 were performed on some concert blurays? (like foo fighters, elton john)

[jdobbs]

hey jdobbs did u checked the issues on the menu when a full backup to bd25 were performed on some concert blurays? (like foo fighters, elton john) I think I've fixed that too. But I won't know for sure until someone tries it on the next release.

[Giddeon]

Hi.

I just thought I'd post to let you know I'm having trouble with the second X-Files Movie. I'm doing full disc backup to BD25 and this is the error I'm getting...

[03:34:11] BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_F1
- Input BD size: 42.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:26.751]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.2 [3790]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[03:34:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:34:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [03:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 35)
- [03:34:29] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [03:35:02] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 4,014 frames
- Bitrate: 8,476 Kbs
- [03:35:02] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:38:29] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:51:08] Video Encode complete
- [03:51:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:51:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:51:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: H:\RIPPEDBLURAYS\XFILES2\X_FILES_2_F1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: H:\RIPPEDBLURAYS\XFILES2\X_FILES_2_F1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
[03:51:43] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted



This is same for versions 0.29.05, 0.30.02 and 0.30.04 and its a UK version of the disc. Has anyone else had this same problem with this film? Is this something you need to know to help improve your BD Rebuilder?

If you need any more info then please let me know :)

[chudm]

I think I've fixed that too. But I won't know for sure until someone tries it on the next release.

thx man :) as soon as you post it ill try it!

[DK]

I think I've fixed that too. But I won't know for sure until someone tries it on the next release.

looking forward to do so as i have one concert bd (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1305740#post1305740) as well, which bd-rb cannot handle until now

[tekmobile]

hey jdobbs did u checked the issues on the menu when a full backup to bd25 were performed on some concert blurays? (like foo fighters, elton john)

I did the foo fighters without problems but had to increase the min_m2ts to not encode the menu

[CATWILDUK]

-----------------------
[12:19:22] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: GHOST_RIDER
- Input BD size: 42.39 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:02.366]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:19:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:19:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00069]
- [12:19:24] Reencoding: VID_00069 (1 of 7)
- [12:19:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00091]
- [12:19:50] Reencoding: VID_00091 (2 of 7)
- [12:20:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [12:21:08] Reencoding: VID_00092 (3 of 7)
- [12:22:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
- [12:23:48] Reencoding: VID_00090 (4 of 7)
- [12:38:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00070]
- [12:41:14] Reencoding: VID_00070 (5 of 7)
- [13:01:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00089]
- [13:03:36] Reencoding: VID_00089 (6 of 7)
- [13:21:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- [13:39:13] Reencoding: VID_00066 (7 of 7)
[14:31:58]PHASE ONE complete
[14:31:58]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:31:58] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[14:32:15] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[14:32:15]JOB: GHOST_RIDER finished.



ENCODER SETTINGS--IDLE PRIORITY
HIGHT SPEED OPTION BD-25


OPTIONS--TARGET SIZE BD-25


SETUP--AUDIO ENGLISH ((ONLY))

SUBS - NONE


ONLY GOT TICKED BELOW SETTINGS..!!!

DO NOT CONVERT DTS TO AC3
DO NOT REENCODE TO AC3
KEEP HD AUDIO FOR BD 25 ENCODE
LIMIT TO ONE TRACK FOR EACH LAUNGAGE

HOPE THIS HELPS SOME PEOPL..!!!!E

TO CONVERT THE 42.39 GIG
TO BD 25 DISK


:helpful:

[CATWILDUK]

- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640

please can some one point out the audio settings above i.e the 0 or the 1

is it better to keep these settings..???
all as 1`S TO KEEP AC3 DTS AND HD AUDIO..???




:stupid:

[deank]

AVCHD issue, not DVD media issue. AVCHD may not support PiP.

Yep, AVCHD certainly does not support PIP (at least it is not a requirement for the standard).

[Race Guy]

I did the foo fighters without problems but had to increase the min_m2ts to not encode the menu

chudm......., This is what you need to do on Elton 60 also.

I believe the min_m2ts setting needs to be 600MB, maybe 800?? I forget.

The issue is, tsMuxeR can't handle the IGStream, so it gets "lost" if you process the menu VIDS. Changing that min_m2ts setting, tells BD-RB to skip those VIDS.

Try it, you'll like it!

[chudm]

chudm......., This is what you need to do on Elton 60 also.

I believe the min_m2ts setting needs to be 600MB, maybe 800?? I forget.

The issue is, tsMuxeR can't handle the IGStream, so it gets "lost" if you process the menu VIDS. Changing that min_m2ts setting, tells BD-RB to skip those VIDS.

Try it, you'll like it!

thx will do that :):thanks:

[old-hack]

Thanks, but changing the settings in ffdshow did not work for me. Same crash as before. Anyway, I´ll have a try with the next version.

By chance do you have multiAVCHD installed? This happened to me after I installed multiAVCHD and went away after I removed it. The audio sync problem made me look at what had changed since the last time I used BD-rebuilder.

[jdobbs]

Hi.

I just thought I'd post to let you know I'm having trouble with the second X-Files Movie. I'm doing full disc backup to BD25 and this is the error I'm getting...

[03:34:11] BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_F1
- Input BD size: 42.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:26.751]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.2 [3790]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[03:34:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:34:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [03:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 35)
- [03:34:29] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [03:35:02] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 4,014 frames
- Bitrate: 8,476 Kbs
- [03:35:02] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:38:29] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:51:08] Video Encode complete
- [03:51:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:51:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:51:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: H:\RIPPEDBLURAYS\XFILES2\X_FILES_2_F1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: H:\RIPPEDBLURAYS\XFILES2\X_FILES_2_F1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
[03:51:43] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted



This is same for versions 0.29.05, 0.30.02 and 0.30.04 and its a UK version of the disc. Has anyone else had this same problem with this film? Is this something you need to know to help improve your BD Rebuilder?

If you need any more info then please let me know :) That's usually an indicator of a bad rip...

[PurpleMan]

@jdobbs:

I think I found some more MPLS bugs.

I did 3 movies this weekend: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, and Wanted. All of which are REGION B universal studios releases that has PiP, which I ripped to BD25 full backup (*without* the PiP). All of them suffered from the same problem - played in PowerDVD9, In the main menu if you click on Play Movie, the playback hangs.

Searching this thread I found posts of people reporting similar issues with similar discs in the past. As I've stated in previous bug reports, we could just say "it's a pdvd bug", but I don't think so (original discs play fine). I once again suspected the MPLS, so I tried swapping the BD-RB one with the original (just to see if it won't hang, didn't actually expect a proper playback) - and voila, it didn't hang.

So I concluded that there's something in the BD-RB MPLS file that PowerDVD does not like/expect. I started digging in BDEdit, comparing the original MPLS with the BD-RB one, and here are my findings (all of which you can see for yourself in the screenshots I've attached):

1) On both the original disc and the BD-RB output there are substreams in the MPLS that are flagged as SubPath subtitles instead of regular PlayItem. On the original disc, however, the SPID's of those streams are mapped correctly to actual subpath items. On BD-RB's output they are mapped to NON-EXISTING subpath items (see images).

2) The actual subpath items (which are the textsubs) have their IN/OUT times untouched in the backup, even tho they should have been updated to match the new in-time of the main video (10 mins). I could be wrong here, look in the image.

3) Even after fixing the IN/OUT times and the substreams SPID's (hex-editted), the disc would STILL not play, which makes me believe there is an additional problem with that MPLS that I still haven't figured out (even so, the abovementioned problems should still be addressed, I think). I attached the original MPLS and the BD-RB MPLS as well, so you can see if you spot anything that's doesn't look right.

I hope this helps,
-PurpleMan

[chudm]

@jdobbs:

I think I found some more MPLS bugs.

I did 3 movies this weekend: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, and Wanted. All of which are REGION B universal studios releases that has PiP, which I ripped to BD25 full backup (*without* the PiP). All of them suffered from the same problem - played in PowerDVD9, In the main menu if you click on Play Movie, the playback hangs.

Searching this thread I found posts of people reporting similar issues with similar discs in the past. As I've stated in previous bug reports, we could just say "it's a pdvd bug", but I don't think so (original discs play fine). I once again suspected the MPLS, so I tried swapping the BD-RB one with the original (just to see if it won't hang, didn't actually expect a proper playback) - and voila, it didn't hang.

So I concluded that there's something in the BD-RB MPLS file that PowerDVD does not like/expect. I started digging in BDEdit, comparing the original MPLS with the BD-RB one, and here are my findings (all of which you can see for yourself in the screenshots I've attached):

1) On both the original disc and the BD-RB output there are substreams in the MPLS that are flagged as SubPath subtitles instead of regular PlayItem. On the original disc, however, the SPID's of those streams are mapped correctly to actual subpath items. On BD-RB's output they are mapped to NON-EXISTING subpath items (see images).

2) The actual subpath items (which are the textsubs) have their IN/OUT times untouched in the backup, even tho they should have been updated to match the new in-time of the main video (10 mins). I could be wrong here, look in the image.

3) Even after fixing the IN/OUT times and the substreams SPID's (hex-editted), the disc would STILL not play, which makes me believe there is an additional problem with that MPLS that I still haven't figured out (even so, the abovementioned problems should still be addressed, I think). I attached the original MPLS and the BD-RB MPLS as well, so you can see if you spot anything that's doesn't look right.

I hope this helps,
-PurpleMan

rememeber to test the discs on players like ps3,or any bluray player (not only pc), cause power dvd has many issue, the only way to see if the disc works properly is playing it on a bluray player not just pc :)

[PurpleMan]

rememeber to test the discs on players like ps3,or any bluray player (not only pc), cause power dvd has many issue, the only way to see if the disc works properly is playing it on a bluray player not just pc :)

Thanks for the input, although that is completely ignoring the fact that I pointed to several issues in the MPLS files.

The fact that certain players (like ps3 or a certain standalone player) are less restrictive about the disc's compliance and agree to play properly even if something is off-spec does not mean the disc is perfect. The fact that there is a player that refuses to play the disc indicates that it's possible that there's something not quite right with it.

[jangai]

Since few weeks, when i make following tasks, i get always the same error 1605 after end of audio extraction /:http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=10422&stc=1&d=1256410190
just at the end of audio extraction...

Sources : mkv (video H264, audio DTS or AC3 and some srt)
BD construction with tsMuxeR (V1.10.6)
BD Rebuild to BD5 or BD9 with BD-RB in Movie Only mode

Unsuccessful tests have been made with different :
-Sources files
-BD-RB releases

Log:
-----------------------
[21:05:13] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: MUSIQUE_A_VERSAILLES
- Input BD size: 4,74 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:28:37.645]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:05:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:05:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:14:26] ExtractAudioSubs() 00058 1605
[22:13:26] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Any idea ?

[Capsbackup]

Thanks for the input, although that is completely ignoring the fact that I pointed to several issues in the MPLS files.

The fact that certain players (like ps3 or a certain standalone player) are less restrictive about the disc's compliance and agree to play properly even if something is off-spec does not mean the disc is perfect. The fact that there is a player that refuses to play the disc indicates that it's possible that there's something not quite right with it.

Logically, I tend to agree with you. I use to believe software players like PowerDVD were less finicky, at least when backing up DVD's. However, I made several that played back fine on PowerDVD but not my standalone. But with Blu-Rays, it seems to be the opposite. I have done several full movie backups to BD-25 that PowerDVD would not play, TMT would play, as well as my Sony BDP-BX1.
I know jdobbs has tried a Samsung Blu-Ray player, but returned it because it was not as compatible as the Sony.
As far as making full movie backups, whether BD5/9 or BD-25, compatible with software players, I believe there may be too many strict restrictions placed on them to allow for most of these backups to play. I no longer trust the playback of my backups to be judged by software players alone.
For a successful backup, it would be ideal if it would play back just as the original, on both software players and standalones. That day may come, based on the time and effort we all have seen from jdobbs, especially with the limited Blu-Ray specs available.
For now, I am quite pleased, extremely satisfied, with my results! :)
And I commend you for trying to help uncover some of the mysteries and bugs that can affect us all. ;)

[PurpleMan]

But with Blu-Rays, it seems to be the opposite. I have done several full movie backups to BD-25 that PowerDVD would not play, TMT would play, as well as my Sony BDP-BX1.


Considering that I have yet to see PowerDVD9 fail playback on an original disc (latest version, that is), I think we should not ignore the fact that it fails to play some backups, especially when it's a series of discs that have something in common (in this case, Universal Studios discs of REGION B).

I believe there may be too many strict restrictions placed on them to allow for most of these backups to play.

And an on-spec disc should follow all these restrictions. They are there for a reason. Our goal should be to have a backup that matches the original and in accordance with the blu-ray specifications to gain playability on all certified players, not only those that are less restrictive about off-spec materials (even tho it might be most players).

And I commend you for trying to help uncover some of the mysteries and bugs that can affect us all. ;)

Thank you. I'm trying to help development as much as possible. That's why I didn't just say "hey, PowerDVD fails so bd-rb is no good", I did my homework and came up with evidence as of why. Hopefully this helps jdobbs catch more bugs and reach that optimal playability level you mentioned.

I see no reason whatsoever to why a certain player should play all original discs but won't play some backups. This means it can obviously tell a difference, for now.

[drmih]

I think that we all have found that Universal discs are always a problem for re-encoding. Either because of the PiP issue (because of the problem with the secondary audio) or the vanishing main audio selection on bd-9 and Sony SAP. I also think something is slightly off but I've never been able to find anything to help jdobbs.

[gandalf027]

Don't know if i can qualify this as a bug, but here it goes.
I'm trying to put the galactica series on bd25, the original one has two large .m2ts files witht he episodes.
BD Rebuilder will only see one as the movie and will encode the one as extras?
Is there any way to go around this?

Thanks

[worknstiff]

Don't know if i can qualify this as a bug, but here it goes.
I'm trying to put the galactica series on bd25, the original one has two large .m2ts files witht he episodes.
BD Rebuilder will only see one as the movie and will encode the one as extras?
Is there any way to go around this?

Thanks

Hi Gandalf27, Here is the roundabout way I used to get them to fit on a DV9. First play the different episodes to get the play times of the different episodes. Next use BD_RB to reencode the different playlists using the alternate file selection. After you get the pieces I used TSMUXER GUI to glue them together into a BD format and used BD_RB to get the file size back down. Considering the video quality of the original was sort of lackluster anyhow (imo), I got 2 to 3 episodes on each DL disk and was pleased with the result.
(sorry that this is off topic, I wish there was a thread for reporting various BD_RB stuff like this to teach how to better use BD_RB.) thanks JDobbs!

[drmih]

Don't know if i can qualify this as a bug, but here it goes.
I'm trying to put the galactica series on bd25, the original one has two large .m2ts files witht he episodes.
BD Rebuilder will only see one as the movie and will encode the one as extras?
Is there any way to go around this?

Thanks

Does it really matter if you're doing a full disc copy to bd-25. As long as you haven't got 'quicker encode for extras' selected it will just do all of the files.

[PurpleMan]

@jdobbs:

I think I found some more MPLS bugs.

I did 3 movies this weekend: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, and Wanted. All of which are REGION B universal studios releases that has PiP, which I ripped to BD25 full backup (*without* the PiP). All of them suffered from the same problem - played in PowerDVD9, In the main menu if you click on Play Movie, the playback hangs.

Searching this thread I found posts of people reporting similar issues with similar discs in the past. As I've stated in previous bug reports, we could just say "it's a pdvd bug", but I don't think so (original discs play fine). I once again suspected the MPLS, so I tried swapping the BD-RB one with the original (just to see if it won't hang, didn't actually expect a proper playback) - and voila, it didn't hang.

So I concluded that there's something in the BD-RB MPLS file that PowerDVD does not like/expect. I started digging in BDEdit, comparing the original MPLS with the BD-RB one, and here are my findings (all of which you can see for yourself in the screenshots I've attached):

1) On both the original disc and the BD-RB output there are substreams in the MPLS that are flagged as SubPath subtitles instead of regular PlayItem. On the original disc, however, the SPID's of those streams are mapped correctly to actual subpath items. On BD-RB's output they are mapped to NON-EXISTING subpath items (see images).

2) The actual subpath items (which are the textsubs) have their IN/OUT times untouched in the backup, even tho they should have been updated to match the new in-time of the main video (10 mins). I could be wrong here, look in the image.

3) Even after fixing the IN/OUT times and the substreams SPID's (hex-editted), the disc would STILL not play, which makes me believe there is an additional problem with that MPLS that I still haven't figured out (even so, the abovementioned problems should still be addressed, I think). I attached the original MPLS and the BD-RB MPLS as well, so you can see if you spot anything that's doesn't look right.

I hope this helps,
-PurpleMan

UPDATE:

I opened the main movie M2TS file in tsmuxer, and produced a new Blu-ray disc with just that file and chapter points. I then took the MPLS file tsmuxer produced and replaced it with the faulty one that BD-RB outputted.
Naturally, the new MPLS doesn't contain any SubPath play items, and the disc now plays perfectly with that new MPLS.

My conclusion is that the source of the problem definitely lies in the MPLS, and specifically involves the SubPath playitems. All of them are of m2ts's that were untouched by bd-rb, their IN/OUT times were not adjusted, and neither were their Sync PTS values.

(worth noticing that the CLPI files also contain the Sync PTS value of each m2ts. So maybe if we end up changing the values in the MPLS we'll also need to adjust the CLPI?)

A penny for your thoughts, jdobbs :)

[marius1]

Checking to see what audio tracks exist and whether or not it needs to do anything.....maybe? Then a quick smoke break before the next step. :)

You're not telling it to assume everything is AC3, only to not reencode it.

Figuring out that the audio track is AC3 should not take 3-4min right? I just want to make sure that bd rebuilder is not re-encoding the track. I don't care about the extra 3 min - I just don't want to get more lossy.

[Lynxs]

I'm having a bit of a problem with the audio re-encoding of my backup on my store bought Monsters vs Alien BD.

First of all let me say this program is great. I've successfully backed up several full BD-9 with movie+menu+extras without issue .. until recently.

My encode for M vs. A completes with no error , however the audio problem I'm having is that it seems that the secondary audio and the main movie audio sound like they've been mixed together when the movie is played -> sounds garbled (funny it is however in sync with the video). If I remove the processing the secondary video then no problem .. the main movie audio works fine. However, I'd really like to keep the secondary video. It's become like a personal vendetta for me right now to get this to work..

This is the first time I've experienced this and I've played with the switches all the way from not converting the DTS & AC3 to encoding all the audio tracks on the disc. I've tried every version of BD-Rebuilder since version 28 to see if this would get corrected but they all produce the same results. I'm wondering if it could be how my system has been configured or could this be a real bug.

Anybody else experienced this backing up M vs. A. as a full BD-9?

[Capsbackup]

A high probability is AVCHD does not support PiP.
If you burn that same backup to BD-RE, does it work properly?
Does this problem happen when you play it back to software player like PowerDVD / TMT, or on a standalone?

[Lynxs]

Never tried backing it up as a BD-RE.

The player I'm using is TMT. I don't have Power DVD so I don't know.

If I use VLC Media Player, I can pull up all the videos and audio separately and all look and sound fine. It just sounds garbled in TMT 2.6 and 3.0 platinum. Just wondering if any else has tried it and the full BD-9 has worked in TMT, PowerDVD and/or standalone?

I'll try making a BD-RE and see if it gives me the same problem

[gandalf027]

Got a audio sync problem with Battlestar Galactica - The Plan.
The imagem doesn't play normaly, it breaks from time to time and the audio is out of sync from chapter two.
Here is the log:

[17:59:28] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: BD-BSGTP
- Input BD size: 28,69 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:51:22.676]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:59:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:59:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [18:29:38] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [18:29:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 160.224 frames
- Bitrate: 22.755 Kbs
- [18:29:38] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- [20:46:55] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:19:59] Video Encode complete
- [08:19:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:19:59] Multiplexing M2TS
[08:34:00]PHASE ONE complete

Any ideas?

Thanks

[jdobbs]

A high probability is AVCHD does not support PiP.
If you burn that same backup to BD-RE, does it work properly?
Does this problem happen when you play it back to software player like PowerDVD / TMT, or on a standalone?It certainly shouldn't since it only supports one video stream.

[drmih]

Got a audio sync problem with Battlestar Galactica - The Plan.
The imagem doesn't play normaly, it breaks from time to time and the audio is out of sync from chapter two.
Here is the log:

[17:59:28] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: BD-BSGTP
- Input BD size: 28,69 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:51:22.676]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:59:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:59:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [18:29:38] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [18:29:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 160.224 frames
- Bitrate: 22.755 Kbs
- [18:29:38] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- [20:46:55] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:19:59] Video Encode complete
- [08:19:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:19:59] Multiplexing M2TS
[08:34:00]PHASE ONE complete

Any ideas?

Thanks

Given that your source is bd-bgstp ("bd-bsgtp.nfo" yEnc (1/1)), I'm guessing it's the version recently posted on the net rather than a rip you can verify from the original.

[gandalf027]

Given that your source is bd-bgstp ("bd-bsgtp.nfo" yEnc (1/1)), I'm guessing it's the version recently posted on the net rather than a rip you can verify from the original.

The original is ok, audio is fine.
Tried another time and some thing. Oh well maybe will buy a bdr 50gb.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs:

I think I found some more MPLS bugs.

I did 3 movies this weekend: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, and Wanted. All of which are REGION B universal studios releases that has PiP, which I ripped to BD25 full backup (*without* the PiP). All of them suffered from the same problem - played in PowerDVD9, In the main menu if you click on Play Movie, the playback hangs.

Searching this thread I found posts of people reporting similar issues with similar discs in the past. As I've stated in previous bug reports, we could just say "it's a pdvd bug", but I don't think so (original discs play fine). I once again suspected the MPLS, so I tried swapping the BD-RB one with the original (just to see if it won't hang, didn't actually expect a proper playback) - and voila, it didn't hang.

So I concluded that there's something in the BD-RB MPLS file that PowerDVD does not like/expect. I started digging in BDEdit, comparing the original MPLS with the BD-RB one, and here are my findings (all of which you can see for yourself in the screenshots I've attached):

1) On both the original disc and the BD-RB output there are substreams in the MPLS that are flagged as SubPath subtitles instead of regular PlayItem. On the original disc, however, the SPID's of those streams are mapped correctly to actual subpath items. On BD-RB's output they are mapped to NON-EXISTING subpath items (see images).

2) The actual subpath items (which are the textsubs) have their IN/OUT times untouched in the backup, even tho they should have been updated to match the new in-time of the main video (10 mins). I could be wrong here, look in the image.

3) Even after fixing the IN/OUT times and the substreams SPID's (hex-editted), the disc would STILL not play, which makes me believe there is an additional problem with that MPLS that I still haven't figured out (even so, the abovementioned problems should still be addressed, I think). I attached the original MPLS and the BD-RB MPLS as well, so you can see if you spot anything that's doesn't look right.

I hope this helps,
-PurpleManInteresting. I picked up "The Mummy" and found that it worked alright for me. I'd heard the "Universal" issue mentioned several time, and wondered why I've never experienced the issue.... so I went back and looked at the structure.

Apparently, based on your BDEDIT graphics, it appears be something specific to the PAL versions... because none of the SubPaths you showed exist in my disc (which is NTSC). That's going to make it a little harder to debug -- but using your notes, I think I have an idea of what could be causing it. I'll make some changes for the next release and hopefully you can report on the impact.

Thanks for the excellent report.

[PurpleMan]

Interesting. I picked up "The Mummy" and found that it worked alright for me. I'd heard the "Universal" issue mentioned several time, and wondered why I've never experienced the issue.... so I went back and looked at the structure.

Apparently, based on your BDEDIT graphics, it appears be something specific to the PAL versions... because none of the SubPaths you showed exist in my disc (which is NTSC). That's going to make it a little harder to debug -- but using your notes, I think I have an idea of what could be causing it. I'll make some changes for the next release and hopefully you can report on the impact.

Thanks for the excellent report.

Yes, I have the region A version of mummy as well (in addition to Reg B for which I reported the bug), and it's bd-rb-proof, no subpath and it plays well. So this indeed seems to be an issue with the way they authored the region B titles.

To be fair, though, PAL and NTSC would be the wrong terminology, because both releases are 1920x1080 at 23.976fps
(region A and region B).

Could you share the technical information of what you think is wrong in the way it's currently handled?

[jdobbs]

Yes, I have the region A version of mummy as well, and it's bd-rb-proof, no subpath and it plays well. So this indeed seems to be an issue with the way they authored the region B titles.

To be fair, though, PAL and NTSC would be the wrong terminology, because both releases are 1920x1080 at 23.976fps
(region A and region B).

Could you share the technical information of what you think is wrong in the way it's currently handled? Yeah, it's probably better to refer to it as Regions A/B. I'd guess the difference is due to the number of languages that need to be supported in Region B. Do you know of any NTSC releases that show similar behavior/subpaths? It sure would be nice to have one to work with so I can fix it.

The "12s" are easy, that was a mistake in the code that wasn't looking at the "Type" setting of the stream_entry() properly. The "12" was the first byte of a PID that was stored incorrectly for that type. That's an easy fix.

What I'm trying to determine now is whether I have to scan the M2TSs associated with the SubPlayItems() and change the PTS/DTSs, or just update the IN and OUT times in the table. I'm thinking it's the latter, but I'm not positive. It would be a lot easier to debug/test if I had an example source to work with.

[Sharc]

I've added two new hidden options ....
For example if you choose "High Quality (Default)", but want to use "umh" and as the motion estimation method and "psy-rd 1.0:0.2" you could add:

TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--me umh --psy-rd 1.0:0.2
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--me umh --psy-rd 1.0:0.2

The tweaks are placed at the end of the command line ....
I added
TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--me umh --tune film
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--me umh --tune film
but it doesn't seem to be added to the command line (lastcmd.txt). I am using 1-pass crf mode. Does the tweak work for 2-pass encodes only?

[jdobbs]

I haven't released the version with the tweaks yet...

[Sharc]

Sorry for my impatience; I wasn't aware that this is yet to come .... :o

[jdobbs]

Sorry for my impatience; I wasn't aware that this is yet to come .... :oUnfortunately I've been tied up with other work and haven't had much time to get a new release out.

[DK]

i have a problem with the "alternate movie only playlist" in 0.30.04 with region B "angels & demons":

since there is a theatrical and extended version on the disc i wanted to choose the longer extended version which is 2:26h instead of 2:18h
i clicked (and double clicked) the corresponding entry for the longer version but no matter what bd-rb always uses the shorter version which is the first entry in the list

i have run the conversion now two times and i have no idea how to make bd-rb select and convert the extended edition - does anyone have a piece of advice as to how i may solve this problem?

thanks for any hint.

[Capsbackup]

@DK,
My experience is if you set everything up first, encoder settings, BD5/9/25, 2 pass etc..., then last select the playlist that you want and click backup, BD-RB will hold the setting. If you make any other changes, it will default back to the other playlist.
Also, are you trying it with Batch mode? If so, try without(regular).

[DK]

hi capsbackup,
i did select the playlist as the latest step - all else was set before, BUT indeed i used batch mode

will try w/out batch mode and report back

[jdobbs]

hi capsbackup,
i did select the playlist as the latest step - all else was set before, BUT indeed i used batch mode

will try w/out batch mode and report backHmm... The selected playlist isn't stored in the INI, so it wouldn't be honored in BATCH mode. I didn't save it there because it is specific only to a certain encode (not settings in general).

I'll have to get creative and I'll see what I can do to fix it.

[DK]

capsbackup's assumption was right on spot:

i've started angels&demons now without batchmode and after only a few seconds of processing i think it will run fine this time as the log already states the correct title length of 2:26h where before it stated 2:18h in batch mode (i let it run then because i didnt know if maybe it would change the length in some miracle way, which it didnt)

[Capsbackup]

capsbackup's assumption was right on spot:

i've started angels&demons now without batchmode and after only a few seconds of processing i think it will run fine this time as the log already satets the correct title length of 2:26h where before it stated 2:18h in batch mode (i let it run then because i didnt know if maybe it would change the length in some miracle way, which it didnt)

Well, another way to look at it is you will have both versions available now, and can view either as you please. :cool:

[DK]

the shorter version will be deleted :p

[DK]

just for the record: the final result was fine with a running time of 2:26h in non-batch mode

[Lynxs]

I'm having a bit of a problem with the audio re-encoding of my backup on my store bought Monsters vs Alien BD.

First of all let me say this program is great. I've successfully backed up several full BD-9 with movie+menu+extras without issue .. until recently.

My encode for M vs. A completes with no error , however the audio problem I'm having is that it seems that the secondary audio and the main movie audio sound like they've been mixed together when the movie is played -> sounds garbled (funny it is however in sync with the video). If I remove the processing the secondary video then no problem .. the main movie audio works fine. However, I'd really like to keep the secondary video. It's become like a personal vendetta for me right now to get this to work..

This is the first time I've experienced this and I've played with the switches all the way from not converting the DTS & AC3 to encoding all the audio tracks on the disc. I've tried every version of BD-Rebuilder since version 28 to see if this would get corrected but they all produce the same results. I'm wondering if it could be how my system has been configured or could this be a real bug.

Anybody else experienced this backing up M vs. A. as a full BD-9?

Never tried backing it up as a BD-RE.

The player I'm using is TMT. I don't have Power DVD so I don't know.

If I use VLC Media Player, I can pull up all the videos and audio separately and all look and sound fine. It just sounds garbled in TMT 2.6 and 3.0 platinum. Just wondering if any else has tried it and the full BD-9 has worked in TMT, PowerDVD and/or standalone?

I'll try making a BD-RE and see if it gives me the same problem

Ok I'm back

I tried ripping it as a full BD-25 and tried again as a full BD-9 this time ensuring that all the english audio tracks were included. For the PIP there is no audio and still the same garbled audio in the main video audio (sounding again like a merging of the secondary audio with the main). I'm using TMT 2.6 and 3.0.

Has anyone tried this so I can confirm it's not my setup. Thanks.

BTW: I've played the original iso from AnyDVD and no issues... something's going on in how the audio is being re-encoded

[Capsbackup]

@Lynxs;
I have experienced this before with playback on TMT 2 and 3, and did not on PowerDVD 7.3. More important, since playback on software players can be unpredictable, can you try it to a BD-25 on a standalone player? This way has always worked for me. Full backup to BD-9 does not support PiP.

[Julian124]

I have had sync problems with the main movie on "Drag Me to Hell". If I copy movie only it's in sync and if I do 1:1 (48GB) in sync, but if backup whole disc to 25 GB the movie is out of sync from the beging to the end. Any ideas?


I seem to be having the same problem, and I tried moving around the settings in the audio, but still nothing. Does anyone know how we may be able to fix this issue?

[gandalf027]

I seem to be having the same problem, and I tried moving around the settings in the audio, but still nothing. Does anyone know how we may be able to fix this issue?

Same here with Battlestar Galactica - The Plan. Weird stuff.

[Lynxs]

@Lynxs;
I have experienced this before with playback on TMT 2 and 3, and did not on PowerDVD 7.3. More important, since playback on software players can be unpredictable, can you try it to a BD-25 on a standalone player? This way has always worked for me. Full backup to BD-9 does not support PiP.

Thanks for the response. I going to to try PowerDVD as well just to be sure.

I don't understand why full backup to BD-9 does not support PiP and full backup to BD-25 does. What's the difference? Don't they both go through the same re-encoding routines only differing from the size ratios required?

[Capsbackup]

From a previous post:
A high probability is AVCHD does not support PiP.
If you burn that same backup to BD-RE, does it work properly?
Does this problem happen when you play it back to software player like PowerDVD / TMT, or on a standalone?

It certainly shouldn't since it only supports one video stream.

So its nothing your doing wrong, except you need to choose BD-25 if you want all the extras, PiP, etc... :)

You could burn your reencoded backup to BD-RE, and you would probable discover it now works. But to BD9, SOL. :p

Note: BD-RB does not support DTS Express secondary audio, only AC3 Plus.

[Chiamos]

From a previous post:




So its nothing your doing wrong, except you need to choose BD-25 if you want all the extras, PiP, etc... :)

You could burn your reencoded backup to BD-RE, and you would probable discover it now works. But to BD9, SOL. :p

Note: BD-RB does not support DTS Express secondary audio, only AC3 Plus.

This Title as a BD-25 plays Main Movie and HD audio just fine with TMT 3, but the PIP has that two different audio streams playing at same time problem and some menus and some extra features may hang. I've really never had much of any kind of playback problems occur with TMT 3, but not until I had tried this Movie. PowerDVD 9 plays the Main Movie quite well, and the PIP does not have that two audio streams playing, but it is not in snyc, as audio is about 5 seconds before the video. I also tried different setups with same results. Sorry, no standalone Player yet, but maybe somebody might be able to give it go.;)

[deank]

By chance do you have multiAVCHD installed? This happened to me after I installed multiAVCHD and went away after I removed it. The audio sync problem made me look at what had changed since the last time I used BD-rebuilder.

Just for the record: multiAVCHD doesn't install/uninstall codecs, directshow filters and splitters, etc, nor will touch anything in the registry. It means that it can't possibly cause any conflicts/troubles as those described by you.

Dean

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the response. I going to to try PowerDVD as well just to be sure.

I don't understand why full backup to BD-9 does not support PiP and full backup to BD-25 does. What's the difference? Don't they both go through the same re-encoding routines only differing from the size ratios required?PiP is supported on a full backup to BD-9. It isn't supported, as you might expect, on any movie-only backup. There are, though, a couple of DTS-Audio PiP sources though that I've seen result in completely silent audio on BD-9 while playing back on BD-25 with a Sony player. One is "The Day the Earth Stood Still". That one is almost certainly something in the player firmware -- because the exact same image plays correctly on BD-25.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a new version of BD-RB (v0.31.01). The changes for this release are:- Corrected an error in which some larger menus were
not being processed as such, and did not display
graphic overlays correctly.
- Corrected an error that can result in out-of-sync
audio and playback problems on some MPEG-2 sources
that use pulldown flags.
- Created two new hidden options that will allow a
user to tweak the X264 command line. The options
are "TWEAK_PASS_ONE=" AND "TWEAK_PASS_TWO=". Any
assigned options will be passed to and override
setting on the default command line. Note: Any
settings that could contradict BD standards are not
allowed to pass through to the command line.
- Added hidden option "KEEP_MBTREE". Normally BD-RB
removes the .stats.mbtree file after successful
encode. This will keep the (rather large) file so
additional passes might be done (manually).
- Corrected an error in the updating of the STN_table()
related to type of stream_entry(). This could be a
cause of issues on certain titles with PiP.
- Fixed an error in the calculation of the new sync
start PTS of some SubPlayItems.
- Corrected a glitch in BATCH mode so that Alternate
Playlists are recorded and used during batch.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1310).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[cwh060]

Hi there, using 031.01 and trying to backup Tranformers_2.

Using Mode "Full Movie backup", if I select Target size BD-5 or BD-9 all the extras appear in the Stream Log window.

If I select BD-25 or Custom Target Size the extras disappear as if the Mode is set to "Movie-only backup"

The size of the MPEG 4 file is 45.2g.

I tried previous versions of BDRB they do the same thing. I've not see this before, nor have I seen anything in the forum.

Am I missing something here? Here is my ini file.

[Options]
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=H:\BD MOVIES\TRANSFORMERS\TRANSFORMERS_2_D1_AC\
WORKING_PATH=H:\BD MOVIES\WORKING PATH\



cwh

[jdobbs]

Hi there, using 031.01 and trying to backup Tranformers_2.

Using Mode "Full Movie backup", if I select Target size BD-5 or BD-9 all the extras appear in the Stream Log window.

If I select BD-25 or Custom Target Size the extras disappear as if the Mode is set to "Movie-only backup"

The size of the MPEG 4 file is 45.2g.

I tried previous versions of BDRB they do the same thing. I've not see this before, nor have I seen anything in the forum.

Am I missing something here? Here is my ini file.

[Options]
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=H:\BD MOVIES\TRANSFORMERS\TRANSFORMERS_2_D1_AC\
WORKING_PATH=H:\BD MOVIES\WORKING PATH\



cwhThat's because the extras are insignificantly small and are left alone (copied intact). Combined they add up to only about 350MB on that disc. It's supposed to do that. The disc will still be a full backup. It can't do intact file copying on BD-5/9 because the bitrate could be too high for those types of discs.

If you want to bypass this feature, see this option from the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file:

MIN_M2TS_SIZE=n n = minimum size required for BD-RB processing on BD-25 in MB, default is 100

[jdobbs]

I seem to be having the same problem, and I tried moving around the settings in the audio, but still nothing. Does anyone know how we may be able to fix this issue? I'll see if I can find that movie...

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Perhaps I misinterpreted a previous post, but is full movie backups to BD5/9, including PiP and secondary audio, supported by standalone players as well as software players?

[cwh060]

@jdobbs,

That's because the extras are insignificantly small and are left alone (copied intact). Combined they add up to only about 350MB on that disc. It's supposed to do that. The disc will still be a full backup. It can't do intact file copying on BD-5/9 because the bitrate could be too high for those types of discs.

Great, thanks for the answer.

cwh

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
Perhaps I misinterpreted a previous post, but is full movie backups to BD5/9, including PiP and secondary audio, supported by standalone players as well as software players?They work on my Sony...

[Lynxs]

@jdobbs,

@jdobbs;
Perhaps I misinterpreted a previous post, but is full movie backups to BD5/9, including PiP and secondary audio, supported by standalone players as well as software players?

They work on my Sony...

Do you think the latest BD-R version will address the audio issue I'm having. I'm re-encoding a BD-9 full backup with v0.31.01 right now.

And is there any special settings you can suggest that may solve my audio issue?

I'm trying to use BD-R as "turnkey" with standard settings to fully backup onto a DVD-DL which I know is stating the obvious since that why we are reporting potential bugs here.

For the last backups I've done, BD-R has been fantastic. Just completed the kids "ICE AGE 3" and it was a perfect dupe so I'm pretty confident with my settings -> just want to make sure I haven't missed any small tweaks that can address some of these particular BDs with higher audio and video track complexity in the main movie and extras (PiP,additional tracks, commentary, etc.).

Thanks

[jdobbs]

I have had sync problems with the main movie on "Drag Me to Hell". If I copy movie only it's in sync and if I do 1:1 (48GB) in sync, but if backup whole disc to 25 GB the movie is out of sync from the beging to the end. Any ideas?


I seem to be having the same problem, and I tried moving around the settings in the audio, but still nothing. Does anyone know how we may be able to fix this issue? Ok, guys. I need some help here. I did a full backup of "Drag Me to Hell" to BD-25 last night and it (both versions) is in perfect sync. You need to give me more details or I can't help you. What O/S are you using? What settings? What region are you in? How about the log and the INF file?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs,

Do you think the latest BD-R version will address the audio issue I'm having. I'm re-encoding a BD-9 full backup with v0.31.01 right now.

And is there any special settings you can suggest that may solve my audio issue?

I'm trying to use BD-R as "turnkey" with standard settings to fully backup onto a DVD-DL which I know is stating the obvious since that why we are reporting potential bugs here.

For the last backups I've done, BD-R has been fantastic. Just completed the kids "ICE AGE 3" and it was a perfect dupe so I'm pretty confident with my settings -> just want to make sure I haven't missed any small tweaks that can address some of these particular BDs with higher audio and video track complexity in the main movie and extras (PiP,additional tracks, commentary, etc.).

Thanks I can only tell you that v0.31.01 addresses audio problems related to MPEG-2 sources with pulldown. I haven't been able to replicate any other reported audio problems, and no one so far is giving me any useful details that might help find what is causing their problems. If I get a disc reported with issues and when I run it everything is fine (especially when I get no details) -- I always have to assume it is caused by "tinkering" and go on to the next problem.

I'm going to pick up a copy of "Monsters vs Aliens" this afternoon and see what it does for me.

[Lynxs]

@jdobbs,

Ok, guys. I need some help here. I did a full backup of "Drag Me to Hell" to BD-25 last night and it (both versions) is in perfect sync. You need to give me more details or I can't help you. What O/S are you using? What settings? What region are you in? How about the log and the INF file?

I can only tell you that v0.31.01 addresses audio problems related to MPEG-2 sources with pulldown. I haven't been able to replicate any other reported audio problems, and no one so far is giving me any useful details that might help find what is causing their problems. If I get a disc reported with issues and when I run it everything is fine (especially when I get no details) -- I always have to assume it is caused by "tinkering" and go on to the next problem.

I'm going to pick up a copy of "Monsters vs Aliens" this afternoon and see what it does for me.

I get your point and that's fair. When I complete the BD-9 on M vs. A's (estimate tomorrow morning), I'll let you know if I have better luck producing a BD-9 (fb) using TMT using v0.31. And I'll also post my O/S, Region, settings, INI, inf, and log file.

And thanks for trying to reproduce my problem.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs,

I get your point and that's fair. When I complete the BD-9 on M vs. A's (estimate tomorrow morning), I'll let you know if I have better luck producing a BD-9 (fb) using TMT using v0.31. And I'll also post my O/S, Region, settings, INI, inf, and log file.

And thanks for trying to reproduce my problem. Were you keeping the original audio or reencoding to AC3?

[Lynxs]

@jdobbs,

Tried turning both on and off at the same time. If I understood you to mean "do not include DTS convert to AC3" and "Do not reencode AC3" for BD-9. And also turning on and off "Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding" when I tried to re-encode for BD-25 ... for me I couldn't find a setting that made any difference to the output..

[drmih]

Were you keeping the original audio or reencoding to AC3?

I've done M v A to bd-9 full disc and it works fine on a pc with TMT 3. However, it's one of those discs where the audio is unselectable when played on a sony sap.

[Lynxs]

@drmih,

That's great. Did you enode the seconday video as well ie. does the PiP audio work with the "Animator's Corner" extra and if so, could you please let me know your settings.. thks

[LowDead]

When I did Royal Space Force last night I got an audio encode error.

ReencodeAudio() 00075 1801

My setup was not to convert DTS, not reencode AC3 and not keep HD audio. I'm not sure what has happened here so here comes the logs:

LOG:

-----------------------
[22:04:01] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: ROYAL_SPACE_FORCE
- Input BD size: 32,72 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:12.351]
- Target BD size: 23,73 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[22:04:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:04:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:19:54] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 8)
- [09:30:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [09:30:26] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 8)
- [09:31:37] ReencodeAudio() 00075 1801
[18:18:15] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

INF:


[Status]
LABEL=ROYAL_SPACE_FORCE
VERSION=v0.31.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=35128576000
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=35044798464
TARGET_SIZE=25480396800
REDUCTION=.724690121704904
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
COMPLETED=1
[00000]
AUDIO=111
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=24179667480
RATE=23129
NSIZE=23431065600
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=111
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=41759961
RATE=6038

INI:

[Options]
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24300
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=J:\TEMP\ROYAL SPACE FORCE\
WORKING_PATH=G:\TEMP\ROYAL SPACE FORCE\

LASTCMD:

"C:\DVD-Rip\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "G:\TEMP\ROYAL SPACE FORCE\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset slow --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 6038 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "G:\TEMP\ROYAL SPACE FORCE\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "G:\TEMP\ROYAL SPACE FORCE\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.MKV"

Hope this helps if it is a bug.

Edit: One thing I came to think of was that I manually choosed which audio tracks to keep in the "stream" window as my default options didn't apply on this disc. My OS is a freshly installed Win7. I never had any problems before, but yet again it is freshly installed so I could have missed something.

//LD

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
Thanks for providing the Tweaks as hidden options. I tried it and it works well. :).
Now my question: If I do 1-pass crf encode, will the tweaks be applied for crf prediction pass as well?
I am asking because I set
TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--me umh --tune film
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--me umh --tune film
and got an oversize (BD5 movie only) which I never have experienced before. Therefore my question whether the tweaks are applied for the crf prediction pass (actually they should), or if not, if this could be the cause of the oversize?

[turbojet]

I see the same oversize issue with TWEAK_PASS_TWO= --me umh --psy-rd 1:0 --direct-auto.

custom size 4555 MB = 4449 MB (4,455,xxx KB) without tweak with tweak 4489 MB (4,596,xxx KB).

I'll try to find another calculation that works consistently with tweak.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Thanks for providing the Tweaks as hidden options. I tried it and it works well. :).
Now my question: If I do 1-pass crf encode, will the tweaks be applied for crf prediction pass as well?
I am asking because I set
TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--me umh --tune film
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--me umh --tune film
and got an oversize (BD5 movie only) which I never have experienced before. Therefore my question whether the tweaks are applied for the crf prediction pass (actually they should), or if not, if this could be the cause of the oversize?If you use CRF, it will use the tweak from TWEAK_PASS_TWO. I might add a TWEAK_CRF=n for the next release.

I made a change to the CRF routine that rounds to the nearest .1 while looping (trying to reduce the number of passes). That's probably what caused the oversize. I'll go change it back.

[psycoxl]

Maybe im missing it or maybe it's feature request but is there any possibility to make a working bluray with menu. I want to rip all audio streams except one and i want to add one audio stream (cause i want to convert a PCM to DTS).

tia

michiel

[Race Guy]

BD-RB (v0.31.01)
- Corrected an error that can result in out-of-sync
audio and playback problems on some MPEG-2 sources
that use pulldown flags.

Hi jdobbs! This was the fix for those Casablanca OOS extras, correct?

If so, I just tried to run it again & two of the problem vids were good on sync (0032 & 0051), but the other two vids (0033 & 0037) were just as OOS as before.

See ya!

[pakkman]

Ok, guys. I need some help here. I did a full backup of "Drag Me to Hell" to BD-25 last night and it (both versions) is in perfect sync. You need to give me more details or I can't help you. What O/S are you using? What settings? What region are you in? How about the log and the INF file?

I've Done this in Vista and Win7. I just tried it again in win7 with 31.01 and got the same result. I did this as a single pass

here is the ini

[Options]
MODE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23000
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=D:\ISO\
SOURCE_PATH=C:\BD BACKUP\DRAG_ME_TO_HELL\

[Sharc]

If you use CRF, it will use the tweak from TWEAK_PASS_TWO. I might add a TWEAK_CRF=n for the next release.

I made a change to the CRF routine that rounds to the nearest .1 while looping (trying to reduce the number of passes). That's probably what caused the oversize. I'll go change it back.
Hmmm... , not sure if any rounding to .1 is the cause for the oversize. Here my sequence:
- [18:17:48] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 11.00 30.50 25.20 21.60 19.50 18.40 18.00 18.10 18.05 18.08 18.09 [18.09]
The steps are .01 rather than 0.1.

[happycase]

-----------------------
[17:44:52] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: BATMAN_AND_ROBIN_WW
- Input BD size: 30.25 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:53.861]
- Target BD size: 4.35 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:44:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:44:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [18:00:10] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[18:01:15] - Failed video encode, aborted


Could someone please tell me what this error means? I just set Windows 7 (yes, authentic student upgrade official release) up on a new machine and didn't encounter this under Vista.

This is also a VC-1 disk and a legitimate rip.

[jdobbs]

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[17:44:52] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: BATMAN_AND_ROBIN_WW
- Input BD size: 30.25 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:53.861]
- Target BD size: 4.35 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:44:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:44:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [18:00:10] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[18:01:15] - Failed video encode, aborted


Could someone please tell me what this error means? I just set Windows 7 (yes, authentic student upgrade official release) up on a new machine and didn't encounter this under Vista.

This is also a VC-1 disk and a legitimate rip.1. Did you install: AVISYNTH, FFDSHOW, and HAALI?

2. Did you enable the proper CODECs in FFDSHOW?

[Lynxs]

@happycase,

I believe you don't want to be talking windows 7 in this forum ... it's kind of a dirty word. I've read enough to know that these bug reports are specific to Vista and XP operating systems.

But it sounds like a codec issue. It seems like it isn't recognizing the VC-1 format in win7. I know in vista and xp, it is indirectly supported in Windows media player 11.. not sure about win7

[jdobbs]

Not any longer. Windows 7 has been officially released. I have always said I would support it after it was out of beta -- and now it is. I'm glad I waited too, because (as I suspected) it appears that the issues went away with the betas.... who'd a' thought, eh?

I'm running BD-RB on Windows 7 right now. In my system VC-1 is supported directly (I have it disabled in FFDSHOW).

[Lynxs]

Sweeeett!!! Cause I already got my win7 upgrade in the mail.

[jdobbs]

Sweeeett!!! Cause I already got my win7 upgrade in the mail. I got a three system family pack for $129 at Sam's Club. Not a bad deal. I was planning to have to do some reprogramming to get it to work -- but I just upgraded my Vista system directly and boddabam-boddaboom, it worked first time I tried it with no need for any changes. I'm going to do another computer from scratch to see if it works out-of-the-box with no existing O/S in place.

[happycase]

1. Did you install: AVISYNTH, FFDSHOW, and HAALI?

2. Did you enable the proper CODECs in FFDSHOW?

In ffdshow, I have MPEG2 set to libmpeg2, and VC1 set to libavcodec. I also just reinstalled the programs with UAC turned off in case that was the issue.

Another symptom I am having is that when I open the decrypted m2ts in Media Player, I get sound but no video. Is my computer missing a codec perhaps?

Thanks for the help so far.

[happycase]

[QUOTE=jdobbs;1339842 In my system VC-1 is supported directly (I have it disabled in FFDSHOW).[/QUOTE]

Could you elaborate more on this, because I am fairly sure that my issue is VC1 and ffdshow related.

[Sharc]

Hmmm... , not sure if any rounding to .1 is the cause for the oversize. Here my sequence:
- [18:17:48] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 11.00 30.50 25.20 21.60 19.50 18.40 18.00 18.10 18.05 18.08 18.09 [18.09]
The steps are .01 rather than 0.1.
I redid the backup without the tweaks and now the file size is perfect. Here the crf prediction without tweaks:
- Analyzing 11.00 30.50 24.80 21.20 18.90 18.10 17.40 [17.30].
So it looks as if the tweaks (--me umh --tune film) have jeopardized the 1-pass crf process in this case.

[Discoboy]

Nice work JDobbs :thanks: ........ Just sent you donation ;)
Discoboy

[Lynxs]

I get your point and that's fair. When I complete the BD-9 on M vs. A's (estimate tomorrow morning), I'll let you know if I have better luck producing a BD-9 (fb) using TMT using v0.31. And I'll also post my O/S, Region, settings, INI, inf, and log file.

Ok re-encoded full backup BD-9 M vs. A with BD-R v0.31.01

First let me be clear on the issue I'm having:

- while playing the movie and invoking the PiP extra "Animator Corner" I get the following issue(s) with these software players:

AnyDVD: - no issues when ISO ripped directly using AnyDVD. PiP is fine
Arcsoft 2.6/3.0: - garbled sound (mixed main and secondary audio) while playing just the movie and no sound from the PiP. PiP however does come up
PowerDVD9: - sound played fine in movie but no sound came up in PiP
standalone players: haven't checked so don't know

Other than that it was a perfect re-encode


I haven't burn the disc due to these problems so I've only tested the ISOs into VirtualClone Drive (lost a DL disc this way cause the problem was still there) in order to check

Operating System: XP MCE SP2
Region: A
Settings: Defaults w v0.31.01 except for audio and subtitle selection (unchecked limit 1 track per language)

Please see attached for all my other settings

Any help would be appreciated

-Lynx

[jdobbs]

In ffdshow, I have MPEG2 set to libmpeg2, and VC1 set to libavcodec. I also just reinstalled the programs with UAC turned off in case that was the issue.

Another symptom I am having is that when I open the decrypted m2ts in Media Player, I get sound but no video. Is my computer missing a codec perhaps?

Thanks for the help so far.Try setting VC-1 to "disabled"

[DK]

Hmm... The selected playlist isn't stored in the INI, so it wouldn't be honored in BATCH mode. I didn't save it there because it is specific only to a certain encode (not settings in general).

I'll have to get creative and I'll see what I can do to fix it.

I still have issues with Angels & Demons and batch mode using v0.31.01:

I wanted to test batch mode of the latest version and had two titles added.

A&D was title two, the long/extended alternate playlist was chosen and it started correctly in batch mode with a predicted running time of 2:26h.

Then i aborted and resumed and by doing so bd-rb picked the first/shorter playlist again and created a movie with the theatrical running time of 2:18h


-----------------------
[21:33:03] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
-----------------------
[02:42:33] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: ANGELS_AND_DEMONS
- Input BD size: 35,49 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:26:15.683]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=448
[02:42:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:42:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00505]
- [02:53:36] Reencoding: VID_00505 (1 of 34)
[03:16:26]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
[03:16:26] BATCH ABORTED...
==========================
[03:16:26] END - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
-----------------------
[03:21:25] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: ANGELS_AND_DEMONS
- Input BD size: 33,59 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:18:37.308]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=448
[03:21:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding



Problem # 2 is this:

having burned one of those conversion i have doen of A&D (the longer one from non batch mode) i am NOT able to get the proper /german in this case) subtitles to play in the beginning of the movie (starting ~4:18, when Vittoria and colleagues talk french and italian).

the german subtiles ARE present on the converted material, as TMT3 plays them fine when audio language GERMAN is chosen and NO subs are selected within the player BUT the standalone player (samsung bd-p1600) will not display GEMRAN subs.

ENGLISH subs are shown when i select the english audio stream but i cannot manage to have those german subs to be displayed.

of course i tried all 15 subtile entries but none of them is a correct one.

only the first two [english+german] lead to a result showing complete subtitles for everything spoken but not the ones for the dialogue in languages different from the audio streams.


what can i do in order to narrow down this "mistake/weird behavior"?

[jdobbs]

Nice work JDobbs :thanks: ........ Just sent you donation ;)
DiscoboyMuch appreciated.

[jdobbs]

I still have issues with Angels & Demons and batch mode using v0.31.01:

I wanted to test batch mode of the latest version and had two titles added.

A&D was title two, the long/extended alternate playlist was chosen and it started correctly in batch mode with a predicted running time of 2:26h.

Then i aborted and resumed and by doing so bd-rb picked the first/shorter playlist again and created a movie with the theatrical running time of 2:18h


Problem # 2 is this:

having burned one of those conversion i have doen of A&D (the longer one from non batch mode) i am NOT able to get the proper /german in this case) subtitles to play in the beginning of the movie (starting ~4:18, when Vittoria and colleagues talk french and italian).

the german subtiles ARE present on the converted material, as TMT3 plays them fine when audio language GERMAN is chosen and NO subs are selected within the player BUT the standalone player (samsung bd-p1600) will not display GEMRAN subs.

ENGLISH subs are shown when i select the english audio stream but i cannot manage to have those german subs to be displayed.

of course i tried all 15 subtile entries but none of them is a correct one.

only the first two [english+german] lead to a result showing complete subtitles for everything spoken but not the ones for the dialogue in languages different from the audio streams.


what can i do in order to narrow down this "mistake/weird behavior"?Did you use what was already in the batchlist, or clear it and start over? You have to do the latter. Is this a commercial release of Angels and Demons? It isn't released in the U.S. until next Tuesday...

[DK]

hmm, i'm sure i did NOT clear the batch list

the first title had finished and A&D had started as you see in the log file ~40 min before i aborted

the extended edition is available here for some days:
http://www.amazon.de/Illuminati-Extended-Version-Amaray-Blu-ray/dp/B002R0DZJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257090821&sr=1-1

[jdobbs]

hmm, i'm sure i did NOT clear the batch list

the first title had finished and A&D had started as you see in the log file ~40 min before i aborted

the extended edition is available here for some days:
http://www.amazon.de/Illuminati-Extended-Version-Amaray-Blu-ray/dp/B002R0DZJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257090821&sr=1-1 I wonder why these films seem to be always be released earlier in Europe than in the U.S?

Clear was the wrong word... the title had to be added to the batch list from within v0.31.01 (not already be in the list) because the MPLS selection information is inserted when the title is added.

[VistaVick]

In ffdshow, I have MPEG2 set to libmpeg2, and VC1 set to libavcodec. I also just reinstalled the programs with UAC turned off in case that was the issue.

Another symptom I am having is that when I open the decrypted m2ts in Media Player, I get sound but no video. Is my computer missing a codec perhaps?

Thanks for the help so far.


Does ffdshow actually run when bd rebuilder is running? I installed the proper codecs with windows 7, but had to do some fooling around with codec tools to get ffdshow to take over window 7's codecs.

[DK]

I wonder why these films seem to be always be released earlier in Europe than in the U.S?

Clear was the wrong word... the title had to be added to the batch list from within v0.31.01 (not already be in the list) because the MPLS selection information is inserted when the title is added.

OK, since it is not too common to interrupt a batch process that's seems to be more than fair

the severe problem still stays with the subtile, which must be present but does not show up

does anyone have an idea on how to look into the structure of this rebuilt version and maybe get a clue as to what may perhaps not be referenced perfectly fine?

since i have never ever experienced any such problem with the samsung 1600 i cant help but think it's in the movie only conversion

[happycase]

Does ffdshow actually run when bd rebuilder is running? I installed the proper codecs with windows 7, but had to do some fooling around with codec tools to get ffdshow to take over window 7's codecs.

I watched BD RB during the extraction phase which it got through 100% and then try to go on to the encode. I watched the task manager after the extraction phase to see if ffdshow was running at all and it was not. It looks like I might have the same problem you encountered. How did you fix it?

[happycase]

Try setting VC-1 to "disabled"

I gave that a try and am BD RB is still failing to encode. As far as I can tell, ffdshow is not even being called by BD RB, but I don't know anything for certain.

[jdobbs]

I watched BD RB during the extraction phase which it got through 100% and then try to go on to the encode. I watched the task manager after the extraction phase to see if ffdshow was running at all and it was not. It looks like I might have the same problem you encountered. How did you fix it?There are some registry settings you can make -- look through the thread, I believe Turbojet posted a .bat file that will make them for you. Are you using one of the Windows 7 releases that predated the official release? I used the official release and didn't have to run the batch.

[jdobbs]

I gave that a try and am BD RB is still failing to encode. As far as I can tell, ffdshow is not even being called by BD RB, but I don't know anything for certain. You may not be able to see it directly. It's a CODEC that get's used referenced AVISYNTH via X264 -- which in turn gets called by BD Rebuilder.

[DGenerateKane]

Still having problems with Pirates2 in Windows 7 with latest version of BD-RB...

Options:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=A:\DVDS\BLU-RAY ANYDVD RIPS\PIRATES2\
WORKING_PATH=D:\BLU-RAY RIPS\BD-25\BDRE FILES\FULL DISC\
Log:

[19:49:32] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2
- Input BD size: 39.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:26.089]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:49:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:49:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [19:49:33] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 18)
- [19:49:33] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 24 frames
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [19:49:33] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:49:33] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:49:34] Video Encode complete
- [19:49:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:49:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:49:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [19:49:35] Reencoding: VID_00013 (2 of 18)
- [19:49:35] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 217 frames
- [19:49:35] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:49:40] Video Encode complete
- [19:49:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:49:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:49:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [19:49:41] Reencoding: VID_00019 (3 of 18)
- [19:49:41] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 298 frames
- [19:49:41] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:49:48] Video Encode complete
- [19:49:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:49:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:49:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [19:49:49] Reencoding: VID_00027 (4 of 18)
- [19:49:49] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 393 frames
- [19:49:49] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:49:58] Video Encode complete
- [19:49:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:49:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:49:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [19:50:00] Reencoding: VID_00024 (5 of 18)
- [19:50:00] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,689 frames
- [19:50:00] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:50:34] Video Encode complete
- [19:50:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:50:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:50:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [19:50:37] Reencoding: VID_00018 (6 of 18)
- [19:50:37] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,176 frames
- [19:50:37] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:51:00] Video Encode complete
- [19:51:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:51:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:51:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [19:51:03] Reencoding: VID_00026 (7 of 18)
- [19:51:03] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,537 frames
- [19:51:03] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:51:37] Video Encode complete
- [19:51:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:51:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:51:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [19:51:41] Reencoding: VID_00010 (8 of 18)
- [19:51:41] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,057 frames
- [19:51:41] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:52:30] Video Encode complete
- [19:52:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:52:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:52:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [19:52:34] Reencoding: VID_00022 (9 of 18)
- [19:52:34] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 2,160 frames
- [19:52:35] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:53:15] Video Encode complete
- [19:53:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:53:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:53:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [19:53:20] Reencoding: VID_00012 (10 of 18)
- [19:53:20] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 1,824 frames
- [19:53:20] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:53:54] Video Encode complete
- [19:53:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:53:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:53:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [19:54:01] Reencoding: VID_00021 (11 of 18)
- [19:54:01] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,599 frames
- [19:54:01] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:55:19] Video Encode complete
- [19:55:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:55:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:55:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [19:55:28] Reencoding: VID_00017 (12 of 18)
- [19:55:28] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,697 frames
- [19:55:28] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:56:36] Video Encode complete
- [19:56:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:56:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:56:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [19:56:47] Reencoding: VID_00015 (13 of 18)
- [19:56:47] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,586 frames
- [19:56:47] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:57:59] Video Encode complete
- [19:57:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:57:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:58:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [19:58:09] Reencoding: VID_00016 (14 of 18)
- [19:58:09] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,612 frames
- [19:58:09] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:59:15] Video Encode complete
- [19:59:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:59:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:59:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [19:59:26] Reencoding: VID_00014 (15 of 18)
- [19:59:26] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 3,683 frames
- [19:59:26] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:00:35] Video Encode complete
- [20:00:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:00:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:00:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [20:00:55] Reencoding: VID_00023 (16 of 18)
- [20:00:55] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 14,173 frames
- [20:00:55] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:06:08] Video Encode complete
- [20:06:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:06:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:06:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [20:07:13] Reencoding: VID_00025 (17 of 18)
- [20:07:13] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 42,717 frames
- [20:07:13] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:22:37] Video Encode complete
- [20:22:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:22:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:22:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [20:32:47] Reencoding: VID_00001 (18 of 18)
- [20:32:47] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 216,720 frames
- Bitrate: 7,966 Kbs
- [20:32:47] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:32:47] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[20:56:46] - Failed video encode, aborted

[GaPony]

I got a three system family pack for $129 at Sam's Club. Not a bad deal. I was planning to have to do some reprogramming to get it to work -- but I just upgraded my Vista system directly and boddabam-boddaboom, it worked first time I tried it with no need for any changes. I'm going to do another computer from scratch to see if it works out-of-the-box with no existing O/S in place.

Thanks for the information. I've been keeping my Win 7 package for my BD-Rebuilder PC sitting on the shelf until I got your confirmation.

Are the the utilities and versions listed in the first thread still valid with the official Win 7 release? I almost hate to touch anything since I've been running with zero failures making my Movie Only copies to BD9... on XP.

[DK]

I've been keeping my Win 7 package for my BD-Rebuilder PC sitting on the shelf until I got your confirmation.

I almost hate to touch anything since I've been running with zero failures making my Movie Only copies to BD9... on XP.

absolutely the same here

have switched one pc to win7/64 but did not dare touching the encoding machine as it runs just fine

[LowDead]

Heres a follow up on the ReencodeAudio() 00075 1801 error. I tried to continue the job and it went on just fine with the next segment. No complaining at all. So probably a glitch at my end or something. Though I did get eac3to to report an audio overlap at (almost certain) the right spot.

BD-RB LOG continued:

-----------------------
[22:04:01] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: ROYAL_SPACE_FORCE
- Input BD size: 32,72 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:12.351]
- Target BD size: 23,73 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[22:04:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:04:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:19:54] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 8)
- [09:30:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [09:30:26] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 8)
- [09:31:37] ReencodeAudio() 00075 1801
[18:18:15] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted
-----------------------
[00:04:50] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: ROYAL_SPACE_FORCE
- Input BD size: 32,72 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:12.351]
- Target BD size: 23,73 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[00:04:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:04:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [00:04:59] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 8)
- [00:05:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [00:05:31] Reencoding: VID_00003 (4 of 8)
- [00:07:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [00:08:06] Reencoding: VID_00004 (5 of 8)
- [00:14:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [00:14:48] Reencoding: VID_00005 (6 of 8)
- [00:38:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [00:38:24] Reencoding: VID_00008 (7 of 8)
- [00:38:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [00:38:48] Reencoding: VID_00009 (8 of 8)
[00:40:52]PHASE ONE complete
[00:40:52]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:40:52] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00:40:54] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:40:54]JOB: ROYAL_SPACE_FORCE finished.


eac3to log:

eac3to v3.17
command line: "C:\DVD-Rip\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "J:\TEMP\Royal Space Force\" 2) -demux
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks, 2:00:50, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 6 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: TrueHD/AC3, Japanese, 5.1 channels, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
(embedded: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB)
4: RAW/PCM, Japanese, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
5: AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: Subtitle (PGS), English
7: Subtitle (PGS), Japanese
Creating file "00000 - Chapters.txt"...
[s07] Extracting subtitle track number 7...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[s06] Extracting subtitle track number 6...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a05] Extracting audio track number 5...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a04] Reading RAW/PCM...
[a03] Extracting TrueHD stream...
[a03] Extracting TrueHD stream...
[a04] Swapping endian...
[a03] Removing TrueHD dialog normalization...
[a03] Removing TrueHD dialog normalization...
[a04] Swapping endian...
[a03] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a03] Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
[a05] Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
[v02] Creating file "00000 - 2 - h264, 1080p24.h264"...
[a03] Creating file "00000 - 3 - TrueHD+AC3, Japanese, 5.1 channels, 48khz.thd+ac3"...
[a04] Creating file "00000 - 4 - PCM, Japanese, 2.0 channels, 16 bits, 48khz.pcm"...
[a05] Creating file "00000 - 5 - AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 640kbps, 48khz.ac3"...
[s07] Creating file "00000 - 7 - Subtitle (PGS), Japanese.sup"...
[s06] Creating file "00000 - 6 - Subtitle (PGS), English.sup"...
[a03] [libav] End of stream indicated <WARNING>
[a03] [libav] End of stream indicated <WARNING>
[a04] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits.
[a05] Audio overlaps for 26ms at playtime 1:59:57. <WARNING>
[a03] [libav] End of stream indicated <WARNING>
[a03] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits.
[a05] Starting 2nd pass...
[a05] Realizing (E-)AC3 gaps...
[a05] Creating file "00000 - 5 - AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 640kbps, 48khz.ac3"...
Video track 2 contains 173838 frames.
Subtitle track 6 contains 1182 captions.
Subtitle track 7 contains 1020 captions.
eac3to processing took 16 minutes, 19 seconds.
Done.

Could this be a sign of a badly authored disc or a bad anydvd rip? VID_00001 is the beginning of end titles. Right at the 1:59.57 mark where eac3to reports the overlap.

I have also burnt it to a bd-re and there is no problem at all playing it in my ps3. No glitch in audio or picture. It plays perfect.

I hope this will come in handy, otherwise please ignore ^^

//LD

[VistaVick]

I watched BD RB during the extraction phase which it got through 100% and then try to go on to the encode. I watched the task manager after the extraction phase to see if ffdshow was running at all and it was not. It looks like I might have the same problem you encountered. How did you fix it?

well I installed the win 7 codec pack from http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html

It has a handy utility, make sure ffdshow is used appropriately, not microsoft codecs. Before this, bd rebuilder encoded a movie without errors, but it was very choppy video, not sure if it used ffdshow properly or what. But now everything works great, by default ffdshow should appear somewhere in your notification area when bd rebuilder starts to encode. This utility also forced windows media player and center to use ffdshow and not its own codec. I used to use gspot on vista to tweak which codecs were being used, but I didn't even see ffdshow listed anywhere.

[Julian124]

I've Done this in Vista and Win7. I just tried it again in win7 with 31.01 and got the same result. I did this as a single pass

here is the ini

[Options]
MODE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23000
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=D:\ISO\
SOURCE_PATH=C:\BD BACKUP\DRAG_ME_TO_HELL\

I have the same settings as above, in my ini.
Could one of the settings be conflicting with another, to cause the problem?
O/S is Windows 7 btw.

[Duppie]

Hi,

I am testing different applications to see which can best compress a Blu-Ray (Movie Only) to a DVD-9 media. So far I have played with DVDFab and BD-RB. From my compressions I have noticed that the Picture Quality produced by BD-RB was better than what DVDFab has produced, but then again DVDFab is much faster again. Anyway, I do not want to start a conversation / war on this. I have decided to stick with BD-RB for now and do some more tests. The problem I am currently experiencing is that BD-RB always re-encodes the audio to ac-3. Is there a way to set the program to take the core, either DTS / DD, and only work with that without re-encoding with "aften"? I have selected and un-selected the 2 settings regarding "Audio" but it does not seem to work. Does anybody have any idea to accomplish this for "Movie-Only" compressed to BD-9?

Thanks for a great tool.

[happycase]

Jdobbs:

I was searching other forums for solutions to the VC1 problem and I found a post that stated installing Ripbot onto the computer after installing ffdshow, avisynth, and media splitter would make them work with BD RB. I installed Ripbot last night and then ran BD RB and the encode went off without a hitch.

I hope this helps with future programming to improve Windows 7 compatibility.

[jdobbs]

Hi,

I am testing different applications to see which can best compress a Blu-Ray (Movie Only) to a DVD-9 media. So far I have played with DVDFab and BD-RB. From my compressions I have noticed that the Picture Quality produced by BD-RB was better than what DVDFab has produced, but then again DVDFab is much faster again. Anyway, I do not want to start a conversation / war on this. I have decided to stick with BD-RB for now and do some more tests. The problem I am currently experiencing is that BD-RB always re-encodes the audio to ac-3. Is there a way to set the program to take the core, either DTS / DD, and only work with that without re-encoding with "aften"? I have selected and un-selected the 2 settings regarding "Audio" but it does not seem to work. Does anybody have any idea to accomplish this for "Movie-Only" compressed to BD-9?

Thanks for a great tool.Go into the setup dialog and click on "Do not reencode AC3" and "Do not convert DTS to AC3." It will not reencode audio if those are selected (make sure you SAVE CHANGES) -- I've tested it many, many times with those settings after other similar reports and have never seen it reencode when it was told not to.

Please note, though: If you are doing a movie-only encode and have "Strict AVCHD" selected -- DTS and AC3 will always be reencoded to AC3. DTS is not included in the AVCHD standard -- and I reencode AC3 to ensure it stays within the AVCHD 640Kbs/5.1 limits. If you want to override those limits (at your own risk) you can add the following to the "[Options]" area of the config file:

OVERRIDE_AVCHD_AUDIO_LIMIT=1

[gandalf027]

jdobbs,
One quick question, for you and all the others that tried it.
The diference between Highest (Very Slow) to High Speed option (BD25) in Image Quality is noticeable in a 40" screen?
I mean if the diference in hours is worth it. I know this probably will change from user to user.

Thanks

[Giddeon]

That's usually an indicator of a bad rip...

Cheers mate, I'll chalk it up to a bad rip then and try to re-rip when i get chance. I'll try CATWILDUK's settings just once first though before i can bring myself to delete it :)

Glad to see BDRebuilder doing so well - keep it up!

[pakkman]

well I installed the win 7 codec pack from http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html

It has a handy utility, make sure ffdshow is used appropriately, not microsoft codecs. Before this, bd rebuilder encoded a movie without errors, but it was very choppy video, not sure if it used ffdshow properly or what. But now everything works great, by default ffdshow should appear somewhere in your notification area when bd rebuilder starts to encode. This utility also forced windows media player and center to use ffdshow and not its own codec. I used to use gspot on vista to tweak which codecs were being used, but I didn't even see ffdshow listed anywhere.

This worked and fixed my "Drag Me to Hell" sync problem.

Thanks

[pakkman]

jdobbs,
One quick question, for you and all the others that tried it.
The diference between Highest (Very Slow) to High Speed option (BD25) in Image Quality is noticeable in a 40" screen?
I mean if the diference in hours is worth it. I know this probably will change from user to user.

Thanks

I do this option all the time on a 61" and it looks great

[GaPony]

jdobbs,
One quick question, for you and all the others that tried it.
The diference between Highest (Very Slow) to High Speed option (BD25) in Image Quality is noticeable in a 40" screen?
I mean if the diference in hours is worth it. I know this probably will change from user to user.

Thanks

I can't imagine a scenario where it would be noticeable on a 40" screen. I can't really see much, if any, difference when using the fastest mode to a BD25 copy on a 52" screen.

[Duppie]

jdobbs, Thanks for clarifying this.

I had "Movie-Only" selected together with "Strict-AVCHD" and did
not know that only AC-3 is supported in AVCHD structure.

Works fine now.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, Thanks for clarifying this.

I had "Movie-Only" selected together with "Strict-AVCHD" and did
not know that only AC-3 is supported in AVCHD structure.

Works fine now. It can also be LPCM (up to 7.1). But that severely limits how much you can put on a DVD-5/9.

[Julian124]

well I installed the win 7 codec pack from http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html

It has a handy utility, make sure ffdshow is used appropriately, not microsoft codecs. Before this, bd rebuilder encoded a movie without errors, but it was very choppy video, not sure if it used ffdshow properly or what. But now everything works great, by default ffdshow should appear somewhere in your notification area when bd rebuilder starts to encode. This utility also forced windows media player and center to use ffdshow and not its own codec. I used to use gspot on vista to tweak which codecs were being used, but I didn't even see ffdshow listed anywhere.

Hey, can you share your settings for the FFDShow configuration or anything that you may have changed to make it work? Because I made Tinkerbell 2, and the video is choppy, you say you fixed, can you please share how exactly you did that? :thanks:

[VistaVick]

Was ffdshow running when bd rebuilder was encoding? If not, I would uninstall any codecs or codec packs (but not avisynth) and install sharks package for simplicity sake. Then launch the settings application for sharks and make sure in the h264 tab ffdshow is selected to be used and not windows own codec. Then hopefully when you run bd rebuilder ffdshow will launch properly and the video will not be choppy.

You don't have to wait for a full encode job to check the quality of the video, just wait for one or two smaller videos to finish being encoded and browse to the work folder.

[Sharc]

BD-RB v0.31.01, Movie NCFM, Movie only, 2 x audio AC3 448, 1-pass crf, no resize, strict avchd, BD5:
=> Audio lags video by about 1 sec for both audio tracks.

Extracting the audio with eac3to from the original disc reports no delay for the LPCM track (eng), and a delay of 1001 ms for the ac3 tracks.
BD-RB selects the LPCM track as first audio (eng) and one of the ac3 tracks as second audio.
Any suggestion?

[gandalf027]

Thx PacMan and GaPony .. will start using the quick option for bd25.

[Julian124]

Was ffdshow running when bd rebuilder was encoding? If not, I would uninstall any codecs or codec packs (but not avisynth) and install sharks package for simplicity sake. Then launch the settings application for sharks and make sure in the h264 tab ffdshow is selected to be used and not windows own codec. Then hopefully when you run bd rebuilder ffdshow will launch properly and the video will not be choppy.

You don't have to wait for a full encode job to check the quality of the video, just wait for one or two smaller videos to finish being encoded and browse to the work folder.

Yeah it was, but I checked both the actual movie and the backup, both were having the same problem, turns out i was just my bluray player.
Also, I am having problems with Shark007 codecs and trying to rebuild the movie, The Ugly Truth. To other, supposedly installing the Shark007 codecs fixed the out of sync problems. But I am still running into them, how would I fix this?

Thank you for replying to my questions. :)

UPDATE:
I've been having quite some trouble with the following movies being out of sync:
Fighting
Drag Me to Hell
Nothing Like the Holidays
The Ugly Truth
Has anyone else been experiencing similar issues?

[Capsbackup]

@Julian124;
What are you using to play back the files that have audio async?
What is your cpu/video card/ram specs?
Have you tried playing just the .m2ts file with Media Player Classic, and is the audio async this way too?
Have you defragmented your hard drives?

[Julian124]

@Julian124;
What are you using to play back the files that have audio async?
What is your cpu/video card/ram specs?
Have you tried playing just the .m2ts file with Media Player Classic, and is the audio async this way too?
Have you defragmented your hard drives?

I am using VLC and Windows Media Player, also, burning the backup to a disc and playing it via my BDROM and BD Player.
I have a Dell Studio XPS 8000 w/ i7 Processor & 8.0 GB of RAM.
Not specifically with MPC but with WMP & VLC.
No I actually havent, but its a fairly new computer, how would that affect what was happening?

Thank you for replying.

[Duppie]

It can also be LPCM (up to 7.1). But that severely limits how much you can put on a DVD-5/9.

Thanks

For LPCM I will most probably use AC-3 since the LPCM audio track can be quite big, as you mentioned. From all your own tests and tests from the people of this threat, would you recommend me using 720p / 1080p for DVD-9? I know it lies is the eye of the beholder but at the moment I do not have an HD display and will only have one by the end of the year.

I doubt there will be much of a difference in 720p and 1080p. I just think the re-encode will be much closer to the real thing at 720p than at 1080p since you use half the bandwidth of a regular BD movie at 20 Gig.

[jdobbs]

bd-rb v0.31.01, movie ncfm, movie only, 2 x audio ac3 448, 1-pass crf, no resize, strict avchd, bd5:
=> audio lags video by about 1 sec for both audio tracks.

Extracting the audio with eac3to from the original disc reports no delay for the lpcm track (eng), and a delay of 1001 ms for the ac3 tracks.
Bd-rb selects the lpcm track as first audio (eng) and one of the ac3 tracks as second audio.
Any suggestion?ncfm?

[jdobbs]

Thanks

For LPCM I will most probably use AC-3 since the LPCM audio track can be quite big, as you mentioned. From all your own tests and tests from the people of this threat, would you recommend me using 720p / 1080p for DVD-9? I know it lies is the eye of the beholder but at the moment I do not have an HD display and will only have one by the end of the year.

I doubt there will be much of a difference in 720p and 1080p. I just think the re-encode will be much closer to the real thing at 720p than at 1080p since you use half the bandwidth of a regular BD movie at 20 Gig.I personally leave them at the original resolution for BD-9. The exception might be if you have a series disc with 4 hours of video... but for most discs you'd be hard pressed to see the difference. Of course if someone did decide to keep LPCM it could change the outcome a lot... Don't let the ridiculously high bitrates used on originals fool you -- it normally isn't really needed with AVC and VC-1.

[Capsbackup]

I am using VLC and Windows Media Player, also, burning the backup to a disc and playing it via my BDROM and BD Player.
I have a Dell Studio XPS 8000 w/ i7 Processor & 8.0 GB of RAM.
Not specifically with MPC but with WMP & VLC.
No I actually havent, but its a fairly new computer, how would that affect what was happening?

Thank you for replying.

Just suggestions, process of elimination. Your specs are quite adequate to play back HD material.
If you open the corresponding .mpls playlist for the main movie that has async audio with tsMuxeR, highlight the audio streams you are keeping, do they show an audio delay?
I have backed up quite a few movies, not the ones you mention though, and have had only one with async audio ( Batman Begins ). I believe jdobbs has corrected the rare audio delay issue that some movies have.
However, if there is a negative audio delay present with the described detection method I just mentioned, I think tsMuxeR is not able to correct it. Negative delays, with my testing, are not properly corrected upon remux.

[dragonknight]

@ jdobbs

this was ripped with the latest anydvdhd and the org. files play back fine. well it looks like it maybe a windows 7 pro 64bit problem because i do not get the error in windows xp pro 32bit. also this is all taking place on the same computer that dual booted into one os or the other.

[23:43:56] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: PELHAM_123
- Input BD size: 41.62 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:03.420]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[23:43:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:43:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [23:43:57] Reencoding: VID_00205 (1 of 24)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00205.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[23:43:58] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[Sharc]

ncfm?
No Country for Old Men, Region B.
The audio lags the video by about 2 seconds.
At the beginning of the video there are studio intros of about 25 seconds duration.
Here the MUX_MOVIE_ONLY meta:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:03:44.474;00:13:41.904;00:20:50.415;00:27:52.837;00:36:58.382;00:41:52.426;00:52:17.050;01:04:59.312;01:13:08.801;01:20:05.801;01:27:35.875;01:34:35.127;01:42:21.009;01:47:22.644;01:56:32.652 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "C:\TEMP\BD REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00000.M2TS", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
A_AC3, "C:\TEMP\BD REBUILDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00000_4352.AC3", timeshift=1001, lang=deu
A_AC3, "C:\TEMP\BD REBUILDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00000_4353.AC3", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\TEMP\BD REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00000.track_4609.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=deu

[DK]

No Country for Old Men, Region B.
The audio lags the video by about 2 seconds.
At the beginning of the video there are studio intros of about 25 seconds duration.

Similar experience here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1331709#post1331709

[santito]

i just rebuild the elton 60 bluray

and still have the same problem with the menu ... it "dissapears"

[Lynxs]

this was ripped with the latest anydvdhd and the org. files play back fine.

[23:43:56] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: PELHAM_123
- Input BD size: 41.62 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:03.420]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[23:43:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:43:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [23:43:57] Reencoding: VID_00205 (1 of 24)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00205.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[23:43:58] - Failed to build structure, aborted

@dragonknight,

Strange.. this one encoded for me almost perfectly the first time as a full backup BD-9... looks like you're trying to do the same thing...


The only issue I had was the initial menu video looked extremely pixelated but I also tried to reencode the whole disk without the "Quicker Extra" switch turn off. To correct it I just reencoded again separately with the "Quicker Extra" switch turn on; I imported the menu video file (I believe it was m2ts.0001) over to my original re-encode and everything worked.

Other than that I had absolutely no problem reencoding this one Seems like a muxing problem.. are you using the tsmuxer that's in the BD-R or are you using a different version?

Again please let the team know your specs and settings... this BD should not give you a problem

Sorry, just noticed you're using windows 7 ... I'm using XP MCE.. so maybe there could be something there...

[Sharc]

Similar experience here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1331709#post1331709
Are these movies from MIRAMAX ?
I'm asking because I had sync problems in two cases so far. Both happen to be from MIRAMAX studio.

[dragonknight]

@dragonknight,

Strange.. this one encoded for me almost perfectly the first time as a full backup BD-9... looks like you're trying to do the same thing...


The only issue I had was the initial menu video looked extremely pixelated but I also tried to reencode the whole disk without the "Quicker Extra" switch turn off. To correct it I just reencoded again separately with the "Quicker Extra" switch turn on; I imported the menu video file (I believe it was m2ts.0001) over to my original re-encode and everything worked.

Other than that I had absolutely no problem reencoding this one Seems like a muxing problem.. are you using the tsmuxer that's in the BD-R or are you using a different version?

Again please let the team know your specs and settings... this BD should not give you a problem

Sorry, just noticed you're using windows 7 ... I'm using XP MCE.. so maybe there could be something there...

@Lynxs
yes i was doing encode in windows 7 pro 64bit and that when i got the following error listed above. however, when i switched over to windows xp pro 32bit it worked fine with now error at all.

[Julian124]

Just suggestions, process of elimination. Your specs are quite adequate to play back HD material.
If you open the corresponding .mpls playlist for the main movie that has async audio with tsMuxeR, highlight the audio streams you are keeping, do they show an audio delay?
I have backed up quite a few movies, not the ones you mention though, and have had only one with async audio ( Batman Begins ). I believe jdobbs has corrected the rare audio delay issue that some movies have.
However, if there is a negative audio delay present with the described detection method I just mentioned, I think tsMuxeR is not able to correct it. Negative delays, with my testing, are not properly corrected upon remux.

How would I open the bluray playlist for a full backup movie?
There is like over 25 playlists in the PLAYLIST folder. How would I know which one to open? Thank you for helping me.

[Capsbackup]

How would I open the bluray playlist for a full backup movie?
There is like over 25 playlists in the PLAYLIST folder. How would I know which one to open? Thank you for helping me.

Use BDInfo to tell you what .mpls corresponds to the .m2ts file/files.

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
Not a bug, but I am not so sure if setting cqmin=0 is a good choice. It seems to drive crf to unnecessary high values for 1-pass crf encodes for a given target size.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Not a bug, but I am not so sure if setting cqmin=0 is a good choice. It seems to drive crf to unnecessary high values for 1-pass crf encodes for a given target size. But it would undersize if not... which is where I was getting so many complaints. I can't think of any downside to a higher than needed value -- and it keeps the "why doesn't it fill my disc?" crowd off my back.

[VistaVick]

Well, after successfully reencoding angels and demons blu-ray to a 22.46 gb target size a few days ago, under windows 7 64 bit I can not get the program to use ffdshow with the drag me to hell UK bluray with the same settings and target size.

It keeps trying to load ffms2.dll apparantly because it cant find ffdshow. Ffdshow does not show up in the background. Yet, it had no problems loading ffdshow with angels and demons. And it still doesn't as I just tried reencoding angels and demons again.

I did encode drag me to hell letting it use ffms2.dll, it completed, but the audio/video sync was horribly out of whack, while angels and demons was perfect.

I've tried various settings with sharks win 7 codec pack with no luck, all the similiar mpeg/mkv file types play correctly with ffdshow.

Here is the log, I aborted it myself this time:

[21:37:56] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: DRAG_ME_TO_HELL
- Input BD size: 45.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:55:52.096]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:37:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:37:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [21:38:01] Reencoding: VID_00078 (1 of 19)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[21:39:16]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

[Capsbackup]

The more posts I read about the adventures of Windows 7, the more content I become with XP. :p
I know jdobbs has reported no problems, at least yet, with his upgrade, but there sure seems to be plenty that do not have this experience. :(
I continue to have no problems with my setup, so for this computer that does my BD backups, it will stay as is!! :)

[VistaVick]

Yah, it's hit or miss, never had any problems recently in vista. I'm sure it has to do with codec settings, which has been complicated by the fact that windows 7 wants its own taking over, but I don't think it will be too hard to fix. I'm just not smart enough to know how.

[Duppie]

@jdobbs

Can we always use the latest x264 from http://www.x264.nl/ or do we need to wait until BD Rebuilder is updated?

Just one final question, I am getting very familiar with all the settings now except "Color Boost 10%". What is your intention with this? What benefit will it bring to the final burn and how much does it slow the encode down to?

Thanks

[GaPony]

Personally... I think most of the problems associated with BD-Rebuilder, regardless of OS, can be found right on the PC that is having the problems. Some people with their 20 different sets of codecs, pre-processing, post-processing, tweaks to the command line, downloaded movies, etc., etc., probably account for at least 90% of the issues falsely reported as bugs along with the obligatory... "It couldn't be anything I did!" There's a big difference between a bug and a "I screwed up" which we don't seem to se much of..

@Capsbackup... I'm with you on using XP on my dedicated BD-Rebuilder PC for now, only because it works flawlessly. For everything else, Win 7 is the way to go.

[MvB]

Hi,

the last version i have been trying was 1809 and that version worked flawless (movie only to dvd5).

Yesterday i tried the new version 0.31.01 and the output (movie only, strict avhcd) is not useable on a ps3. Audio is out of sync about 1 minute at the second chapter and the video played a litte jerky as if there were the pulldown flags missing in the stream. The audio goes further out of sync the further the movie goes on...
The movie was BSG_THE_PLAN.
There were no errors in the log.
I'm using XP Professional.

So i wanted to try the old Version again and it said: this beta is expiered.

Thanks for that great programm anyway. Hope this problem can be resolved.
MvB

[Sharc]

But it would undersize if not... which is where I was getting so many complaints. I can't think of any downside to a higher than needed value -- and it keeps the "why doesn't it fill my disc?" crowd off my back.
Thanks, I see your point. In practice I think the undersizing is perhaps more of an issue for 2-pass encodes. No problem, I can always tweak the command line with --cqmin 10 if I want to change it.

[DK]

Are these movies from MIRAMAX ?
I'm asking because I had sync problems in two cases so far. Both happen to be from MIRAMAX studio.

AFAIK it wasnt a Miramax title.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Can we always use the latest x264 from http://www.x264.nl/ or do we need to wait until BD Rebuilder is updated?

Just one final question, I am getting very familiar with all the settings now except "Color Boost 10%". What is your intention with this? What benefit will it bring to the final burn and how much does it slow the encode down to?

ThanksNone, really. Early on I thought I was seeing color washout when I ran backups -- so I added that option. But I'm pretty sure it was my imagination. I'll probably eventually remove it.

[jdobbs]

Thanks, I see your point. In practice I think the undersizing is perhaps more of an issue for 2-pass encodes. No problem, I can always tweak the command line with --cqmin 10 if I want to change it.--qpmin 10 :)

[jdobbs]

Hi,

the last version i have been trying was 1809 and that version worked flawless (movie only to dvd5).

Yesterday i tried the new version 0.31.01 and the output (movie only, strict avhcd) is not useable on a ps3. Audio is out of sync about 1 minute at the second chapter and the video played a litte jerky as if there were the pulldown flags missing in the stream. The audio goes further out of sync the further the movie goes on...
The movie was BSG_THE_PLAN.
There were no errors in the log.
I'm using XP Professional.

So i wanted to try the old Version again and it said: this beta is expiered.

Thanks for that great programm anyway. Hope this problem can be resolved.
MvB What region?

This program is a beta and right now exists for only one reason: bug testing. It doesn't do any good for anyone to debug a version that is 9 months old and 37 revisions ago (yep, I counted 'em)... you are expressing exactly why I put the expiration in.

Some details might help if you'd like to see it fixed. Region, type of audio, type of video, maybe posting the INF and/or INI files, the log, the AVS file of the out-of-sync audio, or maybe the .meta file? I like to thing I'm good -- but I can't fix things by putting my hands on a monitor and shouting "HEAL!".

But thanks for your great bug report anyway.

[jdobbs]

BD-RB v0.31.01, Movie NCFM, Movie only, 2 x audio AC3 448, 1-pass crf, no resize, strict avchd, BD5:
=> Audio lags video by about 1 sec for both audio tracks.

Extracting the audio with eac3to from the original disc reports no delay for the LPCM track (eng), and a delay of 1001 ms for the ac3 tracks.
BD-RB selects the LPCM track as first audio (eng) and one of the ac3 tracks as second audio.
Any suggestion?I'll pick that one up. There has to be something weird about it (or the way I'm reading it).

[happycase]

Yah, it's hit or miss, never had any problems recently in vista. I'm sure it has to do with codec settings, which has been complicated by the fact that windows 7 wants its own taking over, but I don't think it will be too hard to fix. I'm just not smart enough to know how.

Try installing Ripbot. When I had Windows 7 BD RB problems, installing that program fixed everything and configured ffdshow for me.

[Kassette1]

Hi,

Thank you very much for your app, it is very helpful.

For days now I am trying to get this to work on Windows XP 64-bit and Windows 7 64-bit.

I tried to convert various Blu-Rays. Sadly, I always get this error message:

-----------------------
[13:53:19] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: XXXXXXXXX
- Input BD size: 26,48 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:46:14.357]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:53:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:53:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [14:02:12] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00000.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[14:06:36] - Failed to build structure, aborted

I do not have any problems with this program on Windows 7 32-bit and Windows XP 32-bit.

I installed the progran the same way each time. I only changed the x264.exe file on the 64-bit systems as I should.

Is there a solution to this problem?

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

kassette (analog)

[jdobbs]

Hi,

Thank you very much for your app, it is very helpful.

For days now I am trying to get this to work on Windows XP 64-bit and Windows 7 64-bit.

I tried to convert various Blu-Rays. Sadly, I always get this error message:



I do not have any problems with this program on Windows 7 32-bit and Windows XP 32-bit.

I installed the progran the same way each time. I only changed the x264.exe file on the 64-bit systems as I should.

Is there a solution to this problem?

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

kassette (analog) I'm planning to install the 64 bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium on my quad-core system this weekend. Hopefully I'll see what issues there are and I can integrate automatic configuration into BD Rebuilder. I've been occupied (real job) most of this week and haven't had time to do much with the program.

[Sharc]

I'll pick that one up. There has to be something weird about it (or the way I'm reading it).
I got it right in perfect sync by doing it manually:
- Index the .m2ts with DGAVCIndexNV
- Extract audio and sups with eac3to (extracts the tracks one by one), and convert audio to ac3 448.
- encode video with x264
- mux video and audio with tsmuxer (timeshift=0)
No idea what was key to the success: DGindex or eac3to.
(Just to exclude any previous mistake I did everything again with BD-RB, but again it was out of sync).

[jdobbs]

I got it right in perfect sync by doing it manually:
- Index the .m2ts with DGAVCIndexNV
- Extract audio and sups with eac3to (extracts the tracks one by one), and convert audio to ac3 448.
- encode video with x264
- mux video and audio with tsmuxer (timeshift=0)
No idea what was key to the success: DGindex or eac3to.
(Just to exclude any previous mistake I did everything again with BD-RB, but again it was out of sync). I'll fix it. With all the horsecrap I'm seeing reported related to sync, there has to be a pony in there somewhere. :) The scary thing seems to be the fact that in at least on some of the reports the sync issues goes away when Windows 7 does... which means it could be CODEC related and not an issue with BD-RB at all.

I wish there was a single place that clearly says exactly what needs to be set (and why) in order for Windows 7 to use the FFDSHOW codecs. I can build the changes in -- but I don't want to just make them on faith without knowing what the consequences are. There are too many people doing that already, like Microsoft, for instance, when they made the Directshow changes for this release!

[Sharc]

Yeah, things can be frustrating ..... Btw I am still on Vista.

[Nkotok]

I have not used BD Rebuilder for a while now and forgot if two audio tracks can be kept unchanged for BD25 movie only: one HD and one ac3? If yes, what fields must be checked to achieve that? Thanks.

[deank]

Originally Posted by Kassette1
Hi,

Thank you very much for your app, it is very helpful.
For days now I am trying to get this to work on Windows XP 64-bit and Windows 7 64-bit.
I tried to convert various Blu-Rays. Sadly, I always get this error message:
...
I do not have any problems with this program on Windows 7 32-bit and Windows XP 32-bit.

I installed the program the same way each time. I only changed the x264.exe file on the 64-bit systems as I should.


I'm planning to install the 64 bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium on my quad-core system this weekend. Hopefully I'll see what issues there are and I can integrate automatic configuration into BD Rebuilder. I've been occupied (real job) most of this week and haven't had time to do much with the program.

Just to spare you some time:

64bit version of x264 requires 64bit version of avisynth - otherwise it won't work.

So either keep x264 (32bit) with standard 32bit AviSynth or don't treat it as a problem.

I did a lot of tests last week and despite all the efforts I wasn't able to make 64bit x264 to work with some 'patched' 64bit avisynth dlls or whatever.

The same .avs script passed to 32bit x264 works perfectly but not with 64bit x264.

[jdobbs]

I have not used BD Rebuilder for a while now and forgot if two audio tracks can be kept unchanged for BD25 movie only: one HD and one ac3? If yes, what fields must be checked to achieve that? Thanks. In the SETUP dialog, click on "Do not convert DTS" and "Do not reencode AC3" -- and if you want to keep them as HD, click on "Keep HD Audio for BD-25".

[jdobbs]

Just to spare you some time:

64bit version of x264 requires 64bit version of avisynth - otherwise it won't work.

So either keep x264 (32bit) with standard 32bit AviSynth or don't treat it as a problem.

I did a lot of tests last week and despite all the efforts I wasn't able to make 64bit x264 to work with some 'patched' 64bit avisynth dlls or whatever.

The same .avs script passed to 32bit x264 works perfectly but not with 64bit x264. Is there really that much difference in speed between the 64 bit and the 32 bit versions (of Windows and X264)? If the reports I've read of typical 10% speed increases are true, it hardly seems worth it. When you're talking about the difference between a 5 hour encode and a 4.5 hour encode... I'm not sure it's that big a deal?

Have you seen any tests that show performance diffs with X264's 32 and 64 bit versions?

[deank]

I gave the same answer to people who asked me about 64bit support. It is too much trouble to get both 64bit x264 and 64bit avisynth working together (if possible at all at the moment) and the speed gain (if any) would be negligible.

So may be it is worth mentioning it somewhere in the first post - just stick with 32bit versions of both applications or just warn users (again) not to change the tools provided in the distribution of BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

I gave the same answer to people who asked me about 64bit support. It is too much trouble to get both 64bit x264 and 64bit avisynth working together (if possible at all at the moment) and the speed gain (if any) would be negligible.

So may be it is worth mentioning it somewhere in the first post - just stick with 32bit versions of both applications or just warn users (again) not to change the tools provided in the distribution of BD-RB. To all: When you change something in the included ZIP, always assume that change is the problem until proven otherwise. The specific software versions in the ZIP are included for a reason.

Edit: I added an entry #9 in the first post...

[Race Guy]

Hi jdobbs!

I just did Pink Panther (from 1963), region A, full backup using v31.01 to BD-9 (8150MB custom). Everything else basically default.

The menu videos lacked the "button text" to launch the disc. The m2ts vid numbers in question are 00012 & 00013.

I substituted the original vids & clpi's into the rebuild & the disc now functions. Unfortunately, that put me about 50MB over a BD-9, so I'm rerunning the job with a little more headroom. Let me know if you need any more info than that.

Also, did you get my earlier report about the OOS Casablanca extras where you fixed two of the four, but not all four?

See ya!

[Hoffes]

Hi

thanks to jdobbs for the wonderful proggie! I am from Germany We have 25 fps for the video and the aften.exe 8or whatever) is doing 24 fps for audio. So its async..
I worked around with the the ac3 file in the workfiles folder hoppen to reencode eac3to and multiplexing with mkvtoolnix. It didnt work. Is there a way so my programming is poor to very bad and my software trying is at its end. I have no further ideas.
Your tools DVD rebuilder and the new BD Rebuilder are marvelous..

[MvB]

What region?

This program is a beta and right now exists for only one reason: bug testing. It doesn't do any good for anyone to debug a version that is 9 months old and 37 revisions ago (yep, I counted 'em)... you are expressing exactly why I put the expiration in.

Some details might help if you'd like to see it fixed. Region, type of audio, type of video, maybe posting the INF and/or INI files, the log, the AVS file of the out-of-sync audio, or maybe the .meta file? I like to thing I'm good -- but I can't fix things by putting my hands on a monitor and shouting "HEAL!".

But thanks for your great bug report anyway.


Sorry, didn't want to offend you.

Reencoded the movie again, so that i can give you some information.
The audio is out of sync to the movie, at the beginning about 10s, in the end about 10 min.
The movie plays jerky on the pc and the ps3, stutters ca. once per second.

It is Battlestar Galactica blu ray - the plan american version, codefree
first the inf:
[Status]
LABEL=BSG_THE_PLAN
VERSION=v0.31.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30804099072
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30804099072
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=.148721393646088
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
[00010]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111

now the log file
[12:09:59] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: BSG_THE_PLAN
- Input BD size: 28,69 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:51:22.676]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:10:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:10:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [12:23:52] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[22:25:35]PHASE ONE complete
[22:25:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:25:35] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[22:28:25] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:28:25]JOB: BSG_THE_PLAN finished.


The Video AVS File

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.31.01 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\ffms2.dll")
FFVideoSource("C:\BD_REBUILDER\THE PLAN\BSG_THE_PLAN\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", cachefile="D:\BDRBWORK\WORKFILES\00010.track_4113.ffindex")
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)


The Audio AVS File

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.31.01 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("00010.track_4352.dts").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
audio

Mux_movie_only.meta

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:07:08.553;00:15:15.664;00:21:40.173;00:24:51.114;00:28:22.033;00:34:08.004;00:39:55.309;00:46:27.784;00:52:14.005;00:56:07.572;01:01:48.246;01:08:03.788;01:12:40.856;01:21:01.856;01:25:48.101;01:30:50.736;01:35:21.966;01:41:48.936;01:46:56.326;01:51:22.425 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\BDRBWORK\WORKFILES\00010.M2TS", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS, track=4113
A_AC3, "D:\BDRBWORK\WORKFILES\AUD_00010_4352.AC3", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDRBWORK\WORKFILES\00010.track_4608.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDRBWORK\WORKFILES\00010.track_4609.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDRBWORK\WORKFILES\00010.track_4610.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=fra

The aud_00010.meta

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "C:\BD_REBUILDER\THE PLAN\BSG_THE_PLAN\BDMV\STREAM\00010.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "C:\BD_REBUILDER\THE PLAN\BSG_THE_PLAN\BDMV\STREAM\00010.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=eng, mplsFile=00000
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\BD_REBUILDER\THE PLAN\BSG_THE_PLAN\BDMV\STREAM\00010.M2TS",fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=eng, mplsFile=00000
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\BD_REBUILDER\THE PLAN\BSG_THE_PLAN\BDMV\STREAM\00010.M2TS",fps=23.976, track=4609,lang=spa, mplsFile=00000
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\BD_REBUILDER\THE PLAN\BSG_THE_PLAN\BDMV\STREAM\00010.M2TS",fps=23.976, track=4610,lang=fra, mplsFile=00000

the mux_00010.meta
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\BDRBWORK\WORKFILES\VID_00010.AVS.MKV", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS


Hope that helps more.

sorry for my meaningless post before.

[jdobbs]

@MvB

I'm thinking it may be FFMS2.DLL that's causing many of these sync problems. I notice from your post that it has been used. What I don't understand is why it is even being called on your system? Do you have FFDSHOW and HAALI installed per the first post of this thread? FFMS2.DLL was only put there to cover some issues in Windows 7.

I think I'm going to pull it out in the next version of BD Rebuilder. It's more trouble than it's worth. I've already added some checks for FFDSHOW and HAALI.

[chudm]

i dont know if its only me, but some times when i do a full backup to bd25 with batch mode on, the disc wont play on my ps3, im using windows 7 ultimate 64bits, and it works on totalmedia theater 3, but on ps3 says unvalid disc, dont know why

[Smabbage]

I'm performing a single pass encode using CRF movie only mode at High Quality with normal priority squeezing the output to a BD-9. The rebuild is taking place on a 2 Ghz dual core 64bit Intel processor with 4 Gigs of RAM and a Geforce 9600M GT video card (chipset I guess since this is a laptop). I've selected x264 as the actual encoder. I'm getting a whopping 3 fps during the encode. Is this typical? If not, what can I do to speed this up? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[DK]

Smabbage, this s typical - x264 for HD resolutions is very demanding but provides great results

@ hoffes
24 is fine for BD in Germany - check your input with tsmuxer

[Dark Shikari]

I'm performing a single pass encode using CRF movie only mode at High Quality with normal priority squeezing the output to a BD-9. The rebuild is taking place on a 2 Ghz dual core 64bit Intel processor with 4 Gigs of RAM and a Geforce 9600M GT video card (chipset I guess since this is a laptop). I've selected x264 as the actual encoder. I'm getting a whopping 3 fps during the encode. Is this typical? If not, what can I do to speed this up? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks."High quality" mode is slow, especially on slower CPUs ;)

[stinman]

I want to express my gratitude for this program,It is great,all my backups have been great.I only do main movie,cut all out with tsmuxer first,keep hd audio.I never cut the movie down more than .5 and keep hd audio,then run it through eac3to and change it to mkv/flac.Then on to mkvtoolnix.Done this about 12 times not one problemThanks!

stin

[turbojet]

The current way of using x264 x64 with avs2yuv is actually slower overall then x86 x264 in 2 pass mode unless x86 is used for first pass and x64 for second pass on high/highest quality settings. The only time it might be a little faster is with CRF using high or highest setting even then you'll be lucky to see 10%, usually 5% or less. If coreavc 2 comes with a workable x64 haali media splitter so the whole process is x64 it could be much more significant speed increase.

Something that's always been faster in my tests is DGNV tools. With 1080p it's normally 10-15% faster then the fastest ffdshow decoder. When using nvidia's resize to 720p I saw up to 70% speed increase over lanczosresize+ffdshow. It also has a very fast single/double rate deinterlacer that outputs great quality. The only bad part about it is it needs nvidia 8 series or newer video card and it's not free although reasonably priced.

[Moviewatcher666]

Hello everyone,

First post to this forum. First, I wish to thank jdobbs for his programming genius. Great work!

Not sure if this a bug but this seems to be the place all the experts gather and it is the best place for solutions to problems.

My computer:
AMD Phenom II Tri-core CPU with 4 gig memory running WinXP x64 service pack 2. Installed RD-RB with associated programs required as per jdobbs instructions.

Blu-ray Player:
Panasonic DMP-BD35

What I have tried:
First success with RD-RB ver. .29 Monsters vs. Aliens Region A. Ripped with AnyDVD HD. Shrunk to BD-25 as Full Backup, Quick Encode on, High Speed BD-25, Do not convert DTS on, Do not re-encode AC3 on, Keep HD Audio on. Plays perfectly on BD player.

Problem:
Ripped Groundhog Day Region A with AnyDVD HD. Used RD-RB ver. .31.01 to shrink to BD-25 as full backup.

[21:23:06] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: GROUNDHOG_DAY
- Input BD size: 29.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:34:10.766]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.2 [3790]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:23:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:23:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00514]
- [21:23:12] Reencoding: VID_00514 (1 of 15)
- [21:23:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00508]
- [21:23:16] Reencoding: VID_00508 (2 of 15)
- [21:23:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00510]
- [21:23:20] Reencoding: VID_00510 (3 of 15)
- [21:23:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00511]
- [21:23:26] Reencoding: VID_00511 (4 of 15)
- [21:23:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00512]
- [21:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00512 (5 of 15)
- [21:23:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00513]
- [21:23:43] Reencoding: VID_00513 (6 of 15)
- [21:23:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00518]
- [21:23:59] Reencoding: VID_00518 (7 of 15)
- [21:24:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [21:24:23] Reencoding: VID_00081 (8 of 15)
- [21:24:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00517]
- [21:24:48] Reencoding: VID_00517 (9 of 15)
- [21:25:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00516]
- [21:25:22] Reencoding: VID_00516 (10 of 15)
- [21:26:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00515]
- [21:26:23] Reencoding: VID_00515 (11 of 15)
- [21:27:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00507]
- [21:28:07] Reencoding: VID_00507 (12 of 15)
- [21:31:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00506]
- [21:32:06] Reencoding: VID_00506 (13 of 15)
- [21:35:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00505]
- [21:36:21] Reencoding: VID_00505 (14 of 15)
- [21:42:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [21:53:19] Reencoding: VID_00011 (15 of 15)
- [21:53:19] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [21:59:21] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[22:11:11]PHASE ONE complete
[22:11:11]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:11:11] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[22:11:16] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[22:11:17]JOB: GROUNDHOG_DAY finished.

INI File
[Options]
MODE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23000
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
ENCODER=0
FIX_CLPI=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\GROUNDHOG_DAY\
WORKING_PATH=E:\GROUNDHOG_DAY TRANSCODED\

Everything seemed to work great as shown above. Burned to RB-RE. Plays Sony Pictures credit then hangs and stays at Black screen. Movie plays perfect on computer with PowerDVD 9.

I have read elsewhere that could be problems with Panasonic. I don't have 24p issue as it is turned off (can't even turn it on actually). But jdobbs states that BD-25 should run on all players. What is different from my success with Monsters vs. Aliens to the failure of Groundhog Day. I find that weird. All BD not created equal? All transcoding not created equal?

So I am hoping that there is a solution. I am happy to answer any questions for information that I may have forgotten to mention.

Thanks,

Moviewatcher666


NOTE: Just for s**ts and giggles, I copied the CLIPINF and PLAYLIST files from the original rip and placing into the transcoded folder and burned again. This time Groundhog Day played the Sony Pictures credit then paused where it should have played the Blu-ray advertisment and then went right to the menu. But now no videos will play when selected from the menu. The screen just goes off for a few seconds then comes back to the menu. So maybe there is something not quite right in the rebuilding of the BD menu structure that the Panasonic does not quite like.

jdobbs...does this bear further investigation? I am happy to offer whatever services I can with my Panasonic player.

Thanks!

[chudm]

hi jdobbs, i had a problem with some blurays, i had batch encode option on, and some of the backups (full backup to bd25) doesnt plays on my ps3 or sony s360 bluray player, says unvalid disc, but i tried again those discs without batch encode to figure out if that was the problem and every disc worked perfect on both players, did i miss something?

[jdobbs]

hi jdobbs, i had a problem with some blurays, i had batch encode option on, and some of the backups (full backup to bd25) doesnt plays on my ps3 or sony s360 bluray player, says unvalid disc, but i tried again those discs without batch encode to figure out if that was the problem and every disc worked perfect on both players, did i miss something?Not that I know of... there should be no difference. In fact, all batch does is load the options and then call the same code.

[Smabbage]

Thanks DK and Dark Shikari, I was just curious. I knew the process was quite intense and put a huge load on the CPU but wasn't expecting that much. I would have expected say 10 or 15 fps, not 3. :) At any rate, great job jdobbs and company! Love the results.

[chudm]

Not that I know of... there should be no difference. In fact, all batch does is load the options and then call the same code.

its a very strange behaviour, ill run some test again, and let you know, cause i dont understand why im having those problems with bacth mode :p

[Chiamos]

@MvB

I'm thinking it may be FFMS2.DLL that's causing many of these sync problems. I notice from your post that it has been used. What I don't understand is why it is even being called on your system? Do you have FFDSHOW and HAALI installed per the first post of this thread? FFMS2.DLL was only put there to cover some issues in Windows 7.

I think I'm going to pull it out in the next version of BD Rebuilder. It's more trouble than it's worth. I've already added some checks for FFDSHOW and HAALI.

Please pull it out, as it appears sometimes even with Vista 64 Bit for some undiscovered reasons, and it can be very much just as you indicated, "It's more trouble than it's worth." That is definitely why I am very hesitant to go with Win7, as I don't want that FFM2.DLL suddenly appearing anymore that it has already.

My humble thanks for all your efforts.

[MvB]

@MvB

I'm thinking it may be FFMS2.DLL that's causing many of these sync problems. I notice from your post that it has been used. What I don't understand is why it is even being called on your system? Do you have FFDSHOW and HAALI installed per the first post of this thread? FFMS2.DLL was only put there to cover some issues in Windows 7.

I think I'm going to pull it out in the next version of BD Rebuilder. It's more trouble than it's worth. I've already added some checks for FFDSHOW and HAALI.

Thanks for your great programm and all the effort in bringing that thing to work correctly.

I've installed ffdshow and haali on my XP 32 bit.

Is there a possibility to tell BD-Rebuilder not to use ffms2.dll for decoding?

Thanks
MvB

[Lynxs]

Hello everyone,

Blu-ray Player:
Panasonic DMP-BD35

What I have tried:
First success with RD-RB ver. .29 Monsters vs. Aliens Region A. Ripped with AnyDVD HD. Shrunk to BD-25 as Full Backup, Quick Encode on, High Speed BD-25, Do not convert DTS on, Do not re-encode AC3 on, Keep HD Audio on. Plays perfectly on BD player.


@Moviewatcher666,

Could you do me a favour and report back? For your Monsters vs. Aliens copy, could you check the "Animator's Corner" PiP extra when the movie is playing and see if you have audio.

I'm having a few problem with full backup BD-9. If you've got audio then I'm going to try to recode using your settings. Thanks

-Lynx

[Moviewatcher666]

@Moviewatcher666,

Could you do me a favour and report back? For your Monsters vs. Aliens copy, could you check the "Animator's Corner" PiP extra when the movie is playing and see if you have audio.

I'm having a few problem with full backup BD-9. If you've got audio then I'm going to try to recode using your settings. Thanks

-Lynx

Hey Lynx,

I did not do as BD9. I did as BD25.

Second audio on PIP video works but is seriously out of sync. Never noticed before.

jdobbs--Why would the audio of PIP video be out of sync on full backup BD25 shrink of Monsters vs. Aliens?

Moviewatcher666

[jdobbs]

BD-RB v0.31.01, Movie NCFM, Movie only, 2 x audio AC3 448, 1-pass crf, no resize, strict avchd, BD5:
=> Audio lags video by about 1 sec for both audio tracks.

Extracting the audio with eac3to from the original disc reports no delay for the LPCM track (eng), and a delay of 1001 ms for the ac3 tracks.
BD-RB selects the LPCM track as first audio (eng) and one of the ac3 tracks as second audio.
Any suggestion?I did this movie (Region A) overnight. Movie-Only, kept both English audio tracks and reencoded at 448, used 1-pass CRF, no resize, strict AVCHD, and output to BD-5. On my disc there was no audio delay on either of the tracks.

It came out with the audio synched correctly. Could you post your INI so I can make sure my settings match yours? Also, could you look at MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.META and see if the audio is adjusted for either of the tracks? If it is you should see "timeshift=" in the line associated with the track.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for your great programm and all the effort in bringing that thing to work correctly.

I've installed ffdshow and haali on my XP 32 bit.

Is there a possibility to tell BD-Rebuilder not to use ffms2.dll for decoding?

Thanks
MvBYou can add this:

[Paths]
FFMS2=

It will see the path as empty, and assume it doesn't exist.

But I'm not sure it will help in your case -- because it won't even try to load it until it fails with FFDSHOW.

[Sharc]

I did this movie (Region A) overnight. Movie-Only, kept both English audio tracks and reencoded at 448, used 1-pass CRF, no resize, strict AVCHD, and output to BD-5. On my disc there was no audio delay on either of the tracks.

It came out with the audio synched correctly. Could you post your INI so I can make sure my settings match yours? Also, could you look at MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.META and see if the audio is adjusted for either of the tracks? If it is you should see "timeshift=" in the line associated with the track.
My version is region B.

Here the .ini (to my best knowledge as it was ...):
[Options]
#FIXED_CRF=19
QUICK_CRF=26
#TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--me umh --tune film
#TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--me umh --tune film
#KEEP_MBTREE
QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1
SHOW_ENCODER=1
FORCE_ENCODE=0
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;ger;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
ONEPASS_ENCODING=1
TARGET_SIZE=4369
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\TEMP\BD REBUILDER\
SOURCE_PATH=F:\BD MOVIES\BD NCFM\

The MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.META is here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1340846#post1340846)

[Tongariro]

Hello everyone

I am trying to do Full Backup BD25 for Transformer2 and Star Trek generation.
Using 31.01(Keep HD udio , high quality 2 pass) the backup was successful but i cant even see the movie on my PowerDVD 9 nor my Panasonic BD player(BD35).

When Inserting the BD i can see back screen with the timer counting endlessly no menu no video.

what am I doing wrong?

[DVD Maniac]

I thought I saw a update entry stating this was fixed but I don't think it has based on my recent efforts with 24 Seties 7. Pending the title blanking feature i'm resorting to a Movie Only route, each time i'm going for Alternative Movie choice and selecting each episode in turn, saving to a new processing path and saving as a backup project to run in Batch mode. I tried running these last night in Batch mode but the 2nd, 3rd and 4th disc episodes are just repeats of the first disc episode (ie - the job file does not appear to be saving the specific title I want run each time - it just resorts to the first title each time).

[skylab1]

@MvB

I'm thinking it may be FFMS2.DLL that's causing many of these sync problems. I notice from your post that it has been used. What I don't understand is why it is even being called on your system? Do you have FFDSHOW and HAALI installed per the first post of this thread? FFMS2.DLL was only put there to cover some issues in Windows 7.

I think I'm going to pull it out in the next version of BD Rebuilder. It's more trouble than it's worth. I've already added some checks for FFDSHOW and HAALI.


I am having the same Sync problem as well, I am doing Amadeus and the audio and video won't sync at all. I never had this problem until the FFMS2.dll start to pop up. As of now I can't back anything until this problem is fix.

This is the log:
[19:51:25] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: AMADEUS
- Input BD size: 31.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:25.689]
- Target BD size: 19.53 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:51:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:51:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20:40:16] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[21:06:16]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

[MvB]

I am having the same Sync problem as well, I am doing Amadeus and the audio and video won't sync at all. I never had this problem until the FFMS2.dll start to pop up. As of now I can't back anything until this problem is fix.

This is the log:
[19:51:25] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: AMADEUS
- Input BD size: 31.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:25.689]
- Target BD size: 19.53 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:51:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:51:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20:40:16] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[21:06:16]PHASE ONE aborted by user request


8. Recommended: Download and install WMV11 from Microsoft, and set VC-1 decoding to "disabled" in FFDSHOW (allowing the WMV11 codec to be used). This seems to be the codec with the fewest problem on VC-1.



@skylab1


But I'm not sure it will help in your case -- because it won't even try to load it until it fails with FFDSHOW.


Thanks jdobbs, now i know why bdrebuilder was loading ffms2.dll.
skylab, did you install wmp11 on your system or did you check in ffdshow video encoder whether vc1 decoding is activated?

Found out because the demuxing bdrebuilder created a .vc1 file. My mistake, after installing wmp11 it seems to work without calling ffms2. Seems like i overlooked number 8.

let's see whether that helps. Encoding will be finished in 11 hours :)

[MvB]

it were the missing wmp11 and vc1. Now everything's working. Thanks for the help.

[skylab1]

@skylab1



Thanks jdobbs, now i know why bdrebuilder was loading ffms2.dll.
skylab, did you install wmp11 on your system or did you check in ffdshow video encoder whether vc1 decoding is activated?

Found out because the demuxing bdrebuilder created a .vc1 file. My mistake, after installing wmp11 it seems to work without calling ffms2. Seems like i overlooked number 8.

let's see whether that helps. Encoding will be finished in 11 hours :)


I have wmp12 installed, comes with win7 ult 64, I disable VC-1 and now it won't even encode.

[11:57:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:57:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12:46:20] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[12:49:56] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[13:30:49] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: AMADEUS
- Input BD size: 31.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:25.689]
- Target BD size: 19.53 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[13:30:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:30:51] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.

When I re-enable the VC-1 in ffdshow, the ffms2 come back.
I am at a lost at the point, the last BD I did was superman return and it work fine as always no sync problem.

I also try add ffms2= and that didn't work either, I think removing ffms2 out of the program is the best option.

[marius1]

Please note, though: If you are doing a movie-only encode and have "Strict AVCHD" selected -- DTS and AC3 will always be reencoded to AC3. DTS is not included in the AVCHD standard -- and I reencode AC3 to ensure it stays within the AVCHD 640Kbs/5.1 limits. If you want to override those limits (at your own risk) you can add the following to the "[Options]" area of the config file:

OVERRIDE_AVCHD_AUDIO_LIMIT=1

This totally explains why all my AC3 files have been re-encoded by BD Rebuilder. Mystery solved finally. Is there a place where you have all of the hidden options listed and explained? thanks.

[skylab1]

Also there is no way to go back to WMP11 once wmp 12 is installed.

[GaPony]

Also there is no way to go back to WMP11 once wmp 12 is installed.

Apparently there is... http://www.blogsdna.com/2409/downgrade-windows-media-player-12-to-wmp-11-on-windows-7.htm

[Duppie]

Hi There,

I know for VC-1 you must install WMP11 and disable VC-1 in FFDSHOW. I have tested this and it works great. Now for H.264/AVC what codec setting do you use "libavcodec" or "ffmpeg-mt"? Installing the latest FFDSHOW defaults to "ffmpeg-mt", if I am correct. Which one produced the best results for you with the least problems?

Thanks.

[skylab1]

Apparently there is... http://www.blogsdna.com/2409/downgrade-windows-media-player-12-to-wmp-11-on-windows-7.htm


Thanks for the tip, I'll try that.

[skylab1]

Hi There,

I know for VC-1 you must install WMP11 and disable VC-1 in FFDSHOW. I have tested this and it works great. Now for H.264/AVC what codec setting do you use "libavcodec" or "ffmpeg-mt"? Installing the latest FFDSHOW defaults to "ffmpeg-mt", if I am correct. Which one produced the best results for you with the least problems?

Thanks.

My is default to ffmpeg-mt, apparently Amadeus use VC-1 and superman return is not. I would not even notice the problem if I wasn't trying to backup Amadeus.

[Lynxs]

This totally explains why all my AC3 files have been re-encoded by BD Rebuilder. Mystery solved finally. Is there a place where you have all of the hidden options listed and explained? thanks.

@marius1,

You can check the "HIDDENOPTS.TXT" listed in the root of the BD-R directory. They are listed there, however, I've noticed that in browsing jdobbs forum postings that not all of them are listed.

@jdobbs,

For future releases is it possible to have them all listed - cause there seems to be some great switches out there that give this program a lot of flexibility for advanced users?

-Lynx

[Duppie]

Thanks Skylab1

What I would like to know is what is recommended by jdobbs for encoding H.264/AVC in FFDSHOW and what is preferred by the users? From what I have read in this threat is it seems that Windows 7 / problematic users uses "ffmpeg-mt" but which one (libavcodec / ffmpeg-mt) would produce the best quality?

Thanks

[skylab1]

Thanks Skylab1

What I would like to know is what is recommended by jdobbs for encoding H.264/AVC in FFDSHOW and what is preferred by the users? From what I have read in this threat is it seems that Windows 7 / problematic users uses "ffmpeg-mt" but which one (libavcodec / ffmpeg-mt) would produce the best quality?

Thanks

I haven't notice any difference on the quality, I don't think you can really tell the difference at all.

BTW, downgrade to wmp 11 failed, it did not work; now the wmp12 is not working either, lucky I don't really use much of wmp12 anyway.

Looks like I won't be able to do any BD that is VC1 encoded for a while, I hope jdobbs can have a fix on this soon.

[GreenSnake]

Hi,

I'm a Windows 7 x64 user.

Like some of you guy (VistaVick, MvB etc)
The audio is out of sync about 1 minute on the movie : Two lovers
It use also : "Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding"

I have ffdshow and also this : http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html installed
But maybe not well configured

Have you found a by pass to do not use FFMS2.DLL ?
Or I have to wait a futur version ?

thanks

[DVD Maniac]

I thought I saw a update entry stating this was fixed but I don't think it has based on my recent efforts with 24 Seties 7. Pending the title blanking feature i'm resorting to a Movie Only route, each time i'm going for Alternative Movie choice and selecting each episode in turn, saving to a new processing path and saving as a backup project to run in Batch mode. I tried running these last night in Batch mode but the 2nd, 3rd and 4th disc episodes are just repeats of the first disc episode (ie - the job file does not appear to be saving the specific title I want run each time - it just resorts to the first title each time).

@jdobbs - maybe you missed this?

This bug repeats for Movie's as well. Let's say you want to run a movie only backup of 2 different cuts of the same film (eg Gladiator Original Cut and the new Directors cut). If you create 2 backup projects specifying the required Alternate Movie Playlists with 2 different work paths BDRebuilder runs the same task each time (the First batch file run). Seems in batch mode with the same source directory the first source plyalist and work folder is retained regardless of what is stored in the batch settings for subsequent jobs....

[jdobbs]

I am having the same Sync problem as well, I am doing Amadeus and the audio and video won't sync at all. I never had this problem until the FFMS2.dll start to pop up. As of now I can't back anything until this problem is fix.

This is the log:
[19:51:25] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: AMADEUS
- Input BD size: 31.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:25.689]
- Target BD size: 19.53 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:51:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:51:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20:40:16] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[21:06:16]PHASE ONE aborted by user requestLook at post #5906 -- it tells you how to get rid of FFMS2.

[jdobbs]

This totally explains why all my AC3 files have been re-encoded by BD Rebuilder. Mystery solved finally. Is there a place where you have all of the hidden options listed and explained? thanks.It's in a file called "HIDDENOPTS.TXT" in the zip and the BD-RB folder.

[VistaVick]

I would try those fixes, but transformers revenge encoded properly last night and didn't use the alternate dll, 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Next time it refuses to use ffdshow I will tweak.

[Nkotok]

Tried to do movie only for BD25 keeping a TrueHD track, a AC3 track and subtitles. The result covered only 91% of a BD-R. So there is still no consistency with the final size in BD-Rebuilder, right? Is it because of an HD audio?

[skylab1]

Look at post #5906 -- it tells you how to get rid of FFMS2.

Yes I tried that already, it did get rid of FFMS2 but it also get me this error:

[00:02:22] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: AMADEUS
- Input BD size: 31.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:25.689]
- Target BD size: 19.53 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[00:02:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:02:23] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.

I think this is because the I have WMP12 instead of WMP11, correct?

With the FFMS2 in place then it would do this:

[00:06:18] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: AMADEUS
- Input BD size: 31.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:25.689]
- Target BD size: 19.53 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[00:06:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:06:19] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.

The end product is out of sync.

[GaPony]

I haven't notice any difference on the quality, I don't think you can really tell the difference at all.

BTW, downgrade to wmp 11 failed, it did not work; now the wmp12 is not working either, lucky I don't really use much of wmp12 anyway.

Looks like I won't be able to do any BD that is VC1 encoded for a while, I hope jdobbs can have a fix on this soon.

A system restore should get the registry back to where it was.

[skylab1]

A system restore should get the registry back to where it was.

Yes it would, lucky for me I do have a full backup of my C drive.
:)

[jdobbs]

A system restore should get the registry back to where it was. You should be able to set FFDSHOW as the preferred -- and select WMV9.

I'd reinstall WMV12 first.

[hoju3508]

I see the same issue when keeping HD audio. I run it a second time by adjusting the Custom Size then I get 100% on a BD-R.

Tried to do movie only for BD25 keeping a TrueHD track, a AC3 track and subtitles. The result covered only 91% of a BD-R. So there is still no consistency with the final size in BD-Rebuilder, right? Is it because of an HD audio?

[Capsbackup]

I see the same issue when keeping HD audio. I run it a second time by adjusting the Custom Size then I get 100% on a BD-R.

Tried to do movie only for BD25 keeping a TrueHD track, a AC3 track and subtitles. The result covered only 91% of a BD-R. So there is still no consistency with the final size in BD-Rebuilder, right? Is it because of an HD audio?

@jdobbs;
It looks like you may never be able to satisfy the "fill the disc" desire! Lets see if we can get to 24,995, then the disc would be filled to 99.99999 %!!
Then the new complaints can be either coasters or an edge of a disc gets scratched and it no longer plays.
But, that higher quality filled disc will look so much better than the 91% one that I guess it will be worth it.
Just IMHO and my 2 ¢. :rolleyes: :p

[ben_franklin]

Is there a way to just get BD rebuilder to use the main movie file? I cant get it to just pick an m2ts file by itself. Since its easier to just copy the main file onto the machine it seems that would be a valid option....

[GaPony]

Make a movie only copy... you only get the main movie output to a single .m2ts file within the BDMV/STREAMS folder. The original source for the main movie isn't always just a single file, you know..

[Sharc]

Is there a way to just get BD rebuilder to use the main movie file? I cant get it to just pick an m2ts file by itself. Since its easier to just copy the main file onto the machine it seems that would be a valid option....
If you just want to re-encode a single .m2ts file you may want to try one of the many GUIs discussed in the MPEG-4 GUI forum here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1043055#post1043055). Have fun :)

[hoju3508]

You can also add Clown_BD (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=25818) to the list.

[MickJT]

skylab1, just want to poke my head in, and say I have the EXACT same problem you have.

Windows 7 x64 (retail, not beta/rc). VC1 m2ts files (well, at least on the disc I was experimenting with) will not load up via DirectShow. The AviSynth script is called, Haali Media Splitter is invoked, and it times out waiting for a graph (if I load up the avs elsewhere).

I have tried using clsid's application, and also a method I discovered myself a long time ago, to just rename mp4sdec.dll, forcing Windows to use other 3rd party DirectShow filters.

Then BD-Rebuilder falls back to the other method, and the whole discs encodes seemingly without a hitch, but the audio is out by a lot!

I'm not sure whether simply demuxing the vc1 video from the .m2ts first, then having the .avs use that instead would work. I have to experiment. In any case, as soon as you press "Backup", the .avs files are replaced with new ones, so without some trickery, it'd have to be done in an update of BD-Rebuilder.

Sorry if it's all been tried before. I only just started looking in this thread yesterday. I'd like to try out DVDFab but apparently that can't do the whole disc with menus yet (if re-encoding/shrinking).

[pbeumer2001]

Hello,

I have the following problem,

I`ve done some movies with reencoding the lpcm track to ac3. They work great on my Ps3 but my Sony BD300 gives me a terrible sound. The sound is cracking all over the place.

Does it has to do something with the encode or my player?

Any ideas?

[setarip_old]

@pbeumer2001

Hi!Does it has to do something with the encode or my player?Since you have the problem only on your SONY BD300 and not on your PS3, logically it would seem obvious that the problem has to do with the SONY BD300 and not the encode...

[atcjpn]

Was working great till I installed win 7 then went back to vista, now getting "component 'mscomctl.ocx' missing or invalid. never had trouble before. any ideas?

[GaPony]

It sounds more like a setup problem on your BD300 or the input setting of your reciever for the BD300, if you're using a receiver. If it sounds good on one of those two devices, it stands to reason the disc itself is ok..

[Capsbackup]

Was working great till I installed win 7 then went back to vista, now getting "component 'mscomctl.ocx' missing or invalid. never had trouble before. any ideas?

That file, MSCOMCTL.OCX, is located within the zip file and is part of the BD-RB package. Make sure it is inside the unzipped folder. Also, I remember reading somewhere that you may not want to place the BD-RB folder in the Programs folder with Vista, but perhaps just on the desktop, or keep the paths short, like C:\BD-RBV03101.

[MickJT]

Was working great till I installed win 7 then went back to vista, now getting "component 'mscomctl.ocx' missing or invalid. never had trouble before. any ideas?

Run BD-Rebuilder as an Administrator, just once.

[Duppie]

Hi There,

Have you guys backed up very long movies like "King Kong" and "Dark Knight" which is over 3 Hours. Is it worth doing this? Is the quality still acceptable in terms of Blu-Ray standards? For these long movies do you stick to 1080P or down convert to 720P?

Thanks

[GaPony]

I've done both movies as Movie Only with AC3 audio to BD9 (1080p) and they look as good as the original. I don't think I'd try it to a BD5 disc though...

This really doesn't have anything to do with bug reporting..

[Duppie]

Thanks GaPony,

Sorry, my mistake. I actually wanted to post it in the BD Rebuilder threat and slipped.

[skylab1]

skylab1, just want to poke my head in, and say I have the EXACT same problem you have.


I'm not sure whether simply demuxing the vc1 video from the .m2ts first, then having the .avs use that instead would work. I have to experiment. In any case, as soon as you press "Backup", the .avs files are replaced with new ones, so without some trickery, it'd have to be done in an update of BD-Rebuilder.

Sorry if it's all been tried before. I only just started looking in this thread yesterday. I'd like to try out DVDFab but apparently that can't do the whole disc with menus yet (if re-encoding/shrinking).

MickJT:

demuxing would not work I've tried that, beside Amadeus is too big to fit in BD25 without recode to a smaller size. For movie that is VC1 encoded and the main m2ts is less then 23GB you can build the BD folder with BD-rebuilder or multiAVCHD, as long as you don't recode to a smaller file size you are fine.

I haven't have time to reinstall the WMP12 yet, may be in the weekend.

[Bullet1979]

Was the option to blank videos taken out in the later/latest versions? I seem to remember you used to be able to right-click on a stream and a context menu would appear with various options (blank/watch/etc.). The blank option was never selectable but it seems that functionality is not there now and was just wondering if it was taken out or if it's an issue on my end...

[jdobbs]

Was the option to blank videos taken out in the later/latest versions? I seem to remember you used to be able to right-click on a stream and a context menu would appear with various options (blank/watch/etc.). The blank option was never selectable but it seems that functionality is not there now and was just wondering if it was taken out or if it's an issue on my end...It was disabled until the features are available. It just confuses people and was never supposed to show until it was completd.

[atcjpn]

Run BD-Rebuilder as an Administrator, just once.

your fix worked perfectly, thank you

[ChldsPlay]

Hello, I'm trying to shrink Big Trouble in Little China and the program runs fine through phase one and creates all the necessary files, but when Phase Two starts I get this error:

11/07/09 [02:29:23] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200

In the target folder there is a sort of loop that occurs where inside the BDMV folders is another folder with the target folders name and inside that is a folder with the disc name, and inside that the target folder and so on and so forth.
I tried taking the created *.m2ts files and *.clpi files, etc. and replacing them into the original files and it worked except for some reason it played the first chapter 5 times in a row, or on my PS3 kept a still image until the 6th chapter was supposed to start and began from there. Ultimately it caused the last 10 min. or so to be cut off during playback.

Now I've also done G.I. Joe and it seemed to work fine and works fine with PowerDVD, but on my PS3 is stuck at the beginning with a black screen.

[MickJT]

SOLUTION to Windows 7 (32 and 64bit) VC-1 video with AviSynth

1) Install ffdshow rev3124_20091103_clsid both generic and x64 builds consecutively.

Load up the ffdshow directshow video config utility for both 32bit and 64bit, and select "libavcodec" for VC-1. It is disabled by default. If you can't find it, it is underneath the "WMV" codecs in the list.

Download from http://www.codecguide.com/windows7_preferred_filter_tweaker.htm and run Win7DSFilterTweaker (make sure you have done the above step first).

ffdshow should now be an option for VC-1 in both 32bit and 64bit sections. Select them.

Reboot the computer.

It should now work in AviSynth.
These steps also of course, stop ffms2.dll from being used.

[Category 5]

did Brothers Bloom to BD25 movie only twice and get a output file that is 7.29GB and looks pretty bad. What could be causing this one?

[mikeq]

I'm downsizing a BluRay that has 4 very small (~12K) m2ts files.... I set the minimum m2ts size to anything (I've tried 1, 100, 200) and BD-Rebuilder wants to rebuild these small files even though they're under the minm2ts size.... When I set it to 3000 (to just rebuild the largest, then it doesn't try to rebuild the small ones). I'm rebuilding from a 50G to a 25G (actually using a 23800 target size, since the default size seems to undersize a fair bit).

The menu also doesn't work if the rebuild of these small files happens.... (This is the WG SW1 BluRay - a fan BluRay)....

BTW - I currently resize everything to 720p, then replace the clpi and m2ts and playlist of the main movie with the original, and run a 2nd time to make the main movie 1080p (the 2nd time, I set the minm2ts size large enough to just redo the main movie) - it would be great if you'd add leaving the main movie 1080p as an option!

[setarip_old]

Hi!This is the WG SW1 BluRay - a fan BluRayIf this means that your source material is somethig other than a purchased, commercial BluRay disc, you should not be posting about it at the Doom9 Forums, for at least two reasons...

[drmih]

I think he's probably referring to the Star Wars set created from the German and UK HDTV transmissions with the DTS dvd audio.
I have got to say that my only concern would be that the mastering process may not be compliant and hence a bit of a red-herring bugwise. I actually admire these fans who go to ridiculous lengths to provide something that isn't available as you know that the people producing them, and probably downloading them, have purchased several versions over the years and coughed up each time Mr Lucas needed an injection of cash.

[mikeq]

It's true - it might not be compliant since it's not an original mastered BluRay from a studio, but the problem seems so obviously wierd I thought I'd bring it up.... However, it does play using normal computer software and in my Sony BluRay player, so it can't be too wierd. And it seems like a size filter is pretty straightforward, unless there's some odd linkage with another m2ts that is being resized forcing one of these small guys to be resized....

[setarip_old]

@mikeq

As I mentioned before, there are TWO reasons you shouldn't be posting about this source material at the Doom9 Forums - one has to do with an inviolate "thou shalt not" rule "jdobbs" has established for the BD-RB subforum and the other has to do with a similar but stronger "thou shalt not" rule estabished by "Doom9" for all of the Doom9 forums and sub-forums...

[mikeq]

Fine - jdobbs can ignore the post, or the moderators can censure me. I've contributed a few time to jdobbs over the years, so I don't feel too bad mentioning something that might be slightly off from what he normally wants (he's certainly free to not look at it), and I certainly own enough copies of this "copyrighted" material (2 versions of laserdiscs and all of the DVDs, as well as Hidef video captures on my DVR [at least as HiDef as Dish Network gives you]). If I could purchase BluRays, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[GaPony]

It really doesn't matter how many versions of this or any other movie you have. If THIS movie isn't in the proper Blu-Ray format and structure as the source material for BD-Rebuilder...its not a reportable bug. jdobbs has made this clear over and over. I'm sure he doesn't mind chasing bugs, but they need to be from a source that he can verify and attempt to duplicate the error. I'm sure you understand that.

If you're not using actual Blu-Ray original source discs, there are many other ways to do whatever conversions you need to get done, without using a program that clearly isn't designed for the material you have.

[skylab1]

SOLUTION to Windows 7 (32 and 64bit) VC-1 video with AviSynth

1) Install ffdshow rev3124_20091103_clsid both generic and x64 builds consecutively.

Load up the ffdshow directshow video config utility for both 32bit and 64bit, and select "libavcodec" for VC-1. It is disabled by default. If you can't find it, it is underneath the "WMV" codecs in the list.

Download from http://www.codecguide.com/windows7_preferred_filter_tweaker.htm and Win7DSFilterTweaker (make sure you have done the above step first).

ffdshow should now be an option for VC-1 in both 32bit and 64bit sections. Select them.

Reboot the computer.

It should now work in AviSynth.
These steps also of course, stop ffms2.dll from being used.

It works great, ffms2.dll is no longer been use and VC-1 coded video is once again working and no more sync problem in win7. :)

[MickJT]

It works great, ffms2.dll is no longer been use and VC-1 coded video is once again working and no more sync problem in win7. :)

Glad to hear it works. jdobbs might want to have BD-Rebuilder check for this? It'll certainly stop a lot of complaints.

[jwjohnson]

I just had a problem doing a movie only BD-25 from Transformers 2 (USA version)
I'm using XP SP3. This system has worked great with BD_Rebuilder up until now with everything I've tried. I have changed nothing to do with AV stuff on the system. (Just installed Adobe Lightroom 2.5)

Here is the log:
-----------------------
[21:48:23] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: TRANSFORMERS_2_D1_AC
- Input BD size: 41.58 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:29:53.025]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:48:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:48:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [22:31:31] Reencoding: VID_00003 (1 of 1)
- [22:31:31] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 215,617 frames
- Bitrate: 14,830 Kbs
- [22:31:31] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:55:57] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:24:06] Video Encode complete
- [07:24:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:24:06] Multiplexing M2TS
[07:32:52]PHASE ONE complete
[07:32:52]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:32:52] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
-
[07:40:00] - Failed to REBUILD


Here is the .ini file:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
TARGET_SIZE=23000
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=F:\BD-RIPS\TRANSFORMERS_2_D1_AC\
WORKING_PATH=F:\BD-RB WORK\


Here is output from running the text in LastCMD:
"F:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "F:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00003.AVS" --preset medium --qpmin=0 --bitrate 14830 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "F:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00003.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "F:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00003.AVS.MKV"


Thanks

[jdobbs]

I just had a problem doing a movie only BD-25 from Transformers 2 (USA version)
I'm using XP SP3. This system has worked great with BD_Rebuilder up until now with everything I've tried. I have changed nothing to do with AV stuff on the system. (Just installed Adobe Lightroom 2.5)

Here is the log:


Here is the .ini file:


Here is output from running the text in LastCMD:


ThanksI did that one as a full backup with no problems. I'll give it a try as MOVIE-ONLY and see how it comes out.

[Capsbackup]

I just had a problem doing a movie only BD-25 from Transformers 2 (USA version)
I'm using XP SP3. This system has worked great with BD_Rebuilder up until now with everything I've tried. I have changed nothing to do with AV stuff on the system. (Just installed Adobe Lightroom 2.5)

Here is the log:


Here is the .ini file:


Here is output from running the text in LastCMD:


Thanks

I did a movie only to BD9, also Region A, with no problems. Using XP Pro SP3, 32bit.
You would be suprised at the least expecting software install or hiccups that can make for chaos. :confused: :p

[hoju3508]

I did a movie only BD25, and it was fine.

I did that one as a full backup with no problems. I'll give it a try as MOVIE-ONLY and see how it comes out.

[jwjohnson]

I uninstalled Lightroom and a couple of other programs. I re-expanded the BDRB zip to where I ran it from and then ran the same setup. It resumed the previous build and completed fine. I just tried the result in TMT and it seems to work fine.

So... as you guys suggested, probably nothing in BDRB, just the minor change in my setup.

Thanks for the help.

-----------------------
[11:55:34] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: TRANSFORMERS_2_D1_AC
- Input BD size: 41.58 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:29:53.025]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[11:55:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[11:55:39]PHASE ONE complete
[11:55:39]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:55:39] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:11:39] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:11:39]JOB: TRANSFORMERS_2_D1_AC finished.

[skylab1]

I just had a problem doing a movie only BD-25 from Transformers 2 (USA version)
I'm using XP SP3. This system has worked great with BD_Rebuilder up until now with everything I've tried. I have changed nothing to do with AV stuff on the system. (Just installed Adobe Lightroom 2.5)

Here is the log:


Here is the .ini file:


Here is output from running the text in LastCMD:


Thanks

I've done a movie only backup on this title and works fine for me. I don't have PS3 but I did make a copy for a friend who does have PS3 and he hasn't complaint on not working. You could try import the finished backup folder to multiAVCHD which does have a better support for PS3, it might solve the problem, I don't know but is worth the try.

[InfiniteImp]

THANK YOU!!

Man, I've been looking for this solution. I could not do a backup of I Am Legend and Death Race (both discs with 2 versions of the same movie) without the audio being about 5-7 seconds out of sync. It would work just fine if I ripped the movie alone but never as a complete disc.

Thanks a lot for your post.


SOLUTION to Windows 7 (32 and 64bit) VC-1 video with AviSynth

1) Install ffdshow rev3124_20091103_clsid both generic and x64 builds consecutively.

Load up the ffdshow directshow video config utility for both 32bit and 64bit, and select "libavcodec" for VC-1. It is disabled by default. If you can't find it, it is underneath the "WMV" codecs in the list.

Download from http://www.codecguide.com/windows7_preferred_filter_tweaker.htm and run Win7DSFilterTweaker (make sure you have done the above step first).

ffdshow should now be an option for VC-1 in both 32bit and 64bit sections. Select them.

Reboot the computer.

It should now work in AviSynth.
These steps also of course, stop ffms2.dll from being used.

[InfiniteImp]

JDobbs, my thanks to you for the excellent work on BD Rebuilder. I appreciate the regular improvements and the time it must take to make it happen.

Donation sent - hope it helps you out.

I'd encourage others here to contribute as well. Money well spent.

[fawlty99]

Another problem in trying to backup Transformers 2 to BD25. All appears to go ok however when viewing the results the video will stop at approx 1:07:30 although the counter & audio continues to movie end. If I skip past this point the video is fine but there is no audio for the rest of the movie. The original rip plays fine and repeating BD Rebuilder produces the identical problem. If I include the directors comments the comments contine but no main audio.
Pretty sure I'm using the latest software required including BD Rebuilder 031.01. OS is Windows 7 64bit.
Rebuild options were movie only, keep HD audio. Burn was with Nero 9 (udf 2.5). Movie was ripped using DVDfab6 (movie only)

rebuilder.ini:
MODE=1
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
VERBOSE_STATUS=0
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\DVD_RIPS\TRANSFORMERS2\MAINMOVIE\TRANSFORMERS_2_D1_AC\
WORKING_PATH=D:\TEMP\

log:

[21:20:38] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: TRANSFORMERS_2_D1_AC
- Input BD size: 38.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:29:52.400]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:20:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:20:40] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [21:20:40] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 215,602 frames
- Bitrate: 16,417 Kbs
- [21:20:40] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:31:57] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:43:58] Video Encode complete
- [10:43:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:43:58] Multiplexing M2TS
[11:00:15]PHASE ONE complete
[11:00:15]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:00:15] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:12:01] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[16:12:01]JOB: TRANSFORMERS_2_D1_AC finished.



Any suggestions?

[Capsbackup]

Movie was ripped using DVDfab6 (movie only)
Probably not the problem if the original is OK, but ANYDVDHD is probably a better choice.
Burn was with Nero 9 (udf 2.5).
Definately use IMGBurn. It's free, and what the BD-RB author (jdobbs) supports.
More than likely, it's something to do with your OS and codecs. :)

[setarip_old]

@fawlty99

Hi!Movie was ripped using DVDfab6 (movie only)Try ripping the full disc - and then use BD-RB to p[rocess "movie-only"...

[ChldsPlay]

Any help?

Hello, I'm trying to shrink Big Trouble in Little China and the program runs fine through phase one and creates all the necessary files, but when Phase Two starts I get this error:

11/07/09 [02:29:23] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200

In the target folder there is a sort of loop that occurs where inside the BDMV folders is another folder with the target folders name and inside that is a folder with the disc name, and inside that the target folder and so on and so forth.
I tried taking the created *.m2ts files and *.clpi files, etc. and replacing them into the original files and it worked except for some reason it played the first chapter 5 times in a row, or on my PS3 kept a still image until the 6th chapter was supposed to start and began from there. Ultimately it caused the last 10 min. or so to be cut off during playback.

Now I've also done G.I. Joe and it seemed to work fine and works fine with PowerDVD, but on my PS3 is stuck at the beginning with a black screen.

[Capsbackup]

@ChldsPlay;
What did you use to rip the original BluRay?
You should have the original BluRay ripped folder and inside that folder is 2 folders, BDMV and CERTIFICATE.
Then, if you create a new folder, say BTLC BDRB, then open BD-RBV03101, select the original folder as your source path, the new folder you created as your Working, make your selections for either movie only or full backup, select file size, etc.. and click Backup. When complete, you will have a newly created BD-RB folder with the options you selected with your movies name inside the BTLC BDRB folder. It will be ready to burn with IMGBurn.
EDIT:
Post your log file, so this error upon rebuild can be viewed.

[GaPony]

Just to add... If you plan on playing it back on a PS3, you need to either make a Movie Only (AVCHD) copy, or a full copy to BD25. A full copy to BD5 (SL DVD) or BD9 (DL DVD) won't play in the PS3.... at least I don't know of it working on a US version of the PS3.

[rippn]

Let me start by saying that all my encodes are going to BD25. I'm having a couple of issues, one is with the PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 hidden option, I paste this into the BDREBUILDER.INI and it still does not let me remove the red X from secondary audio on groundhogs day or twilight both region A which are the only 2 I have that have secondary audio. It seems as though when I put this option in the BDREBUILDER.INI that it should automatically remove the X on it's own since when you save the .INI changes it applies those changes automatically to the current project. Anyway, the work around I found for this was to deselect all languages, then manually remove the red x's from all audio tracks, but this is time consuming and seems to cause another issue.

When I do the above on groundhogs day it seems that now my computer appears hang on about 85% complete when it tries to convert the AC3 using the aften.exe, if I don't do the above and let it cut out the secondary audio it runs through no problem, is there a way to get around this? Now I say appears to hang because there is still hard drive activity, but the progress in the command window is showing 0% so I don't know.

Which brings me to another question, if I have a tick in Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-Ray only), a tick in Do not reencode AC3 (Blu-Ray only), and a tick in Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding, should it even be converting the audio in the first place? And is it recommended to use any of these options if you don't want any audio loss, or is it noticeable at all?

Another issue I ran in to was with Harry Potter 1 region A, where if I have "quicker" encode for extras activated, it appears to remove all but the main movie and I think 1 trailer, there are a total of 9 different video sets, and this is with the full backup mode ticked. Easily got around this by removing the tick from "quicker" encode for extras, but just thought I would report the bug.

Even with the issues, this is a great program, big fan of your work jdobbs, happily purchased DVD Rebuilder a couple years ago and will happily buy this one as well when it becomes final or whenever you change it to a purchasable program, may even donate a little when I get some extra funds.

Sorry for the winded post, but started using this program last Wednesday, and the doom9 5 day gag order for new members is insane! Anyway thanks for your help!

[Pod7381]

I have been having this problem since I started using the newer builds of BD-Rebuilder. Today, I tried again using the newest BD-Rebuilder, to see what would happen but same problem: In Movie-Only mode to a BD25 disk the output file was only 8.8GB. The DVD was a retail (Netflix) of Silverado. I ripped it using the latest version of AnyDVD HD. My OS is Win7 x64. Unfortunately, I did not save the ini file from today. This started happening back when I was still running Vista x64, so I think it's a BD-Rebuilder bug and not an Win7 issue. I have successfully backed up about 30 movies running Vista using earlier builds of BD-Rebuilder. That is why I think it has something to do with the newer builds. The way I get around this problem is to select Full-Movie mode. In this mode the output file is ok at 22+GB. But, I am really not interested in preserving all the extras on the DVD that take up space that could go towards better video quality on my backup. If anyone has a solution to this problem, please let me know.

[jdobbs]

I have been having this problem since I started using the newer builds of BD-Rebuilder. Today, I tried again using the newest BD-Rebuilder, to see what would happen but same problem: In Movie-Only mode to a BD25 disk the output file was only 8.8GB. The DVD was a retail (Netflix) of Silverado. I ripped it using the latest version of AnyDVD HD. My OS is Win7 x64. Unfortunately, I did not save the ini file from today. This started happening back when I was still running Vista x64, so I think it's a BD-Rebuilder bug and not an Win7 issue. I have successfully backed up about 30 movies running Vista using earlier builds of BD-Rebuilder. That is why I think it has something to do with the newer builds. The way I get around this problem is to select Full-Movie mode. In this mode the output file is ok at 22+GB. But, I am really not interested in preserving all the extras on the DVD that take up space that could go towards better video quality on my backup. If anyone has a solution to this problem, please let me know. You need to post your LOG, INF, and INI files... without them it is just a guess as to what is happening.

[Capsbackup]

@rippn;
If the secondary audio is DTS Express, BD-RB will not be able to include this audio, since there is no support for it as of yet.

[laserfan]

I have been having this problem since I started using the newer builds of BD-Rebuilder...The DVD was a retail (Netflix) of Silverado.Does Netflix sell DVDs?

[Sn8kbordin]

Does Netflix sell DVDs?

I used to buy Netflix DVDs from Half.com for about $5 and you could buy them from their website too.
I don't know about Bluray

[rippn]

@rippn;
If the secondary audio is DTS Express, BD-RB will not be able to include this audio, since there is no support for it as of yet.

That must be the problem, though the cover art doesn't mention DTS Express, both movies do have the picture in picture feature, thanks for the response!

So what exactly does the PROCESS_SECONDARY= do? "if set to 0, BD-RB will not process secondary audio/video on full backup" does this mean it's on by default?

[Pod7381]

Thanks Jdobbs, here's the info you asked for. First of all, I tried the Full Backup mode instead of Movie-Only mode and now that mode also produces a very small output file. The output file for Silverado was only 8.9GB.
Here, is the INI,INF & LOG files:

[Status]
LABEL=SILVERADO
VERSION=v0.31.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=43348981209
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42876758016
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.551464847183095
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00081]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=65192357
NSIZE=10764288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00542]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=71172530
NSIZE=41060352
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00543]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=114700735
NSIZE=71933952
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00545]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=122161552
NSIZE=93671424
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00547]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=126589929
NSIZE=142952448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00544]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=138113197
NSIZE=127315968
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00546]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=278659123
NSIZE=191852544
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00539]
AUDIO=1
PGS=00
M2TS_TARGET=544351604
NSIZE=336254976
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00541]
AUDIO=1
PGS=00
M2TS_TARGET=989967670
NSIZE=797816832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=0000000
M2TS_TARGET=21831402023
RATE=17398
NSIZE=8903577600
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Options]
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\TEMP DVD\SILVERADO\
WORKING_PATH=E:\ BD REBUILDER WORKING\

-----------------------
[10:43:52] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: SILVERADO
- Input BD size: 40.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:20:59.222]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[10:43:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:43:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [10:43:57] Reencoding: VID_00081 (1 of 10)
- [10:44:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00542]
- [10:44:20] Reencoding: VID_00542 (2 of 10)
- [10:44:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00543]
- [10:44:54] Reencoding: VID_00543 (3 of 10)
- [10:45:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00545]
- [10:45:30] Reencoding: VID_00545 (4 of 10)
- [10:46:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00547]
- [10:46:15] Reencoding: VID_00547 (5 of 10)
- [10:46:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00544]
- [10:47:07] Reencoding: VID_00544 (6 of 10)
- [10:47:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00546]
- [10:48:05] Reencoding: VID_00546 (7 of 10)
- [10:49:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00539]
- [10:49:47] Reencoding: VID_00539 (8 of 10)
- [10:52:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00541]
- [10:53:18] Reencoding: VID_00541 (9 of 10)
- [10:57:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [11:20:27] Reencoding: VID_00011 (10 of 10)
[15:18:33]PHASE ONE complete
[15:18:33]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:18:33] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:18:51] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[15:18:51]JOB: SILVERADO finished.

I hope there is a solution available because right now my ability to backup my BD disks is gone.
Thanks for your help.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.31.02). Changes for this version are:- Removed FFMS2.DLL from the installation as a backup
method when FFDSHOW was not being called. It seems
to have caused more problems than it solved.
- Added checks for necessary software installations at
startup to identify shortfalls and help prevent
"failed encoding" errors. Note: You MUST have
HAALI, FFDSHOW, and AVISYNTH installed to run BD-RB
now -- there are too many issues when they are not.
- Added code to configure FFDSHOW as the preferred
CODECs for DirectShow in Windows 7 when not set
correctly. BD-RB also generates a file called
"FF_RESET.BAT" in the BD-RB folder that will reset the
original DirectShow preferences (in case they need to
be restored for some reason). A special thanks to
Atak_Snajpera for his helpful insight.
- Added a batch file "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" that can be
used to register the .OCX file when it isn't already.
You may have to run this as Administrator. This step
will not be necesary when the program gets out of
beta and has its own installation package.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1342).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[ChldsPlay]

Here's the files for the GI Joe (Disc 1). It works perfectly on PowerDVD, but all I get is a black screen on my PS3. It's a full disc backup to BD-25.

[Options]
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=19000
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\GIJOE\FULLDISC\GIJOE_AC\
WORKING_PATH=C:\GIJOESHRINK\




-----------------------
[16:57:17] BD Rebuilder v0.31.01 (beta)
- Source: GIJOE_AC
- Input BD size: 40.33 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:07:57.419]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[16:57:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:57:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01015]
- [16:57:23] Reencoding: VID_01015 (1 of 6)
- [16:58:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01011]
- [16:58:10] Reencoding: VID_01011 (2 of 6)
- [16:59:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01013]
- [16:59:22] Reencoding: VID_01013 (3 of 6)
- [17:00:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01014]
- [17:00:54] Reencoding: VID_01014 (4 of 6)
- [17:02:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01012]
- [17:02:29] Reencoding: VID_01012 (5 of 6)
- [17:04:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01002]
- [17:30:23] Reencoding: VID_01002 (6 of 6)
[18:53:40]PHASE ONE complete
[18:53:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:53:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:54:01] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:54:01]JOB: GIJOE_AC finished.

[Status]
LABEL=GIJOE_AC
VERSION=v0.31.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=43304787382
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42750695424
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.551175970549751
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=6
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[01015]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=82076787
NSIZE=57962496
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01011]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=125517849
NSIZE=109443072
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01013]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=173384968
NSIZE=130062336
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01014]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=187353972
NSIZE=137238528
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01012]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=200957242
NSIZE=190537728
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01002]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=101100
M2TS_TARGET=22937911882
RATE=18662
NSIZE=21948788736
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


I'll have to rerun Big Trouble in Little China to get those files.

[setarip_old]

@Pod7381

Hi!The output file for Silverado was only 8.9GB.Is the output file a complete copy of what you were backing up?

[Capsbackup]

That must be the problem, though the cover art doesn't mention DTS Express, both movies do have the picture in picture feature, thanks for the response!

So what exactly does the PROCESS_SECONDARY= do? "if set to 0, BD-RB will not process secondary audio/video on full backup" does this mean it's on by default?

Yes, it is on by default. You do not have to do anything unless you do not want to have the secondary video at all.
BD-RB will say what type the secondary audio is, and if it is Dolby Digital Plus, it will be enabled. DTS will not.

[Capsbackup]

@ChldsPlay;
I don't own a PS3, so I can't help you there.
Definately use BD-RE until you become successful.
Just a thought, the folder you burn should only have the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders, and not a folder within a folder where the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders are.(hope that makes sense) So, for example: if you open the folder GIJOESHRINK, it will have the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders. This is what you burn.

[rippn]

I've done GI Joe, and tested in power dvd, I will burn to bd-re and test in the PS3 and let you know if I have any issue.

Edit: Tested and confirmed working in the PS3, no issues at all, probably just a bad burn or bad authoring. Good luck!

[Pod7381]

@Pod7381

Hi!Is the output file a complete copy of what you were backing up?


Hello- Yes, I just ran the 8.9GB .m2ts file in Windows media player and it is the complete movie.

[raul124]

BD-Rebuilder problem
I hope this the right forum to get help? If not IM sorry.

Hi Forum: I have tried all kinds of blu ray software combinations to burn the movie only to a 25GB R-DVD with no success. I like the Guide to blu-ray backup: by milOtis> and yes I have downloaded all the necessary software required to make this guide work. The truth is all would work except for BD_REBUILDER latest version. I have downloaded all the latest software from videohelp.com.

Sly soft anydvd hd purchased
Haali Media Splitter
Avisynth
FFdshow
Deamon Tools
ImBurn
Avchd-Patcher
BD-REBUILDER?

The problem with the BD-Rebuilder is when I extract it to the Desktop and the build
Folder with it components parts, I click on the BD-builder icon to run the software, a warning message pops up> Component ‘MSCOMCTI.OCX or one of its dependencies not correctly register: a file is missing or invalid<>and I can’t continue to use it. I have tried many different ways to get it running. I have uninstalled many times, I have uninstalled the other required software components to start the installation first with BD_Rebuilder or Uninstall it last and still it doesn’t make a different, that warning message pops up and I can’t use this software. I have built a brand new computer from brand new component parts and VISTA 32 bit O/S. I have used DVDFABHD and ANYDVDHD (purchased) but the dvdfabhd is only a trial version. The full version, costs a lot and I already pd for the other lifetime support…If this bug with BD-rebuilder continues to give me problems, could someone direct me to a better solution in burning from the HHD to a 25GBR-DVD. I would greatly appreciate it, plus a guide of how to make it work. Thanks a lot….Raul










O/S-------------------------Windows Vista 32 bit
MB-------------------------ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo LGA 775 Intel P45
GRPHIC-------------------ASUS EAH4650 HD SILENT
CPU------------------------Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400
C/DRIVE------------------Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 Hard Drive-750GB
E/DRIVE-------------------Barracuda 7200.12 Hard Drive- 1TB
MEMORY-----------------OCZ SLI-Ready Dual Channel 1096MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz
Blu-ray- Burner &HD DVD-ROM Drive Model GGW_H20L LightScribe Support

[jdobbs]

Component ‘MSCOMCTI.OCX or one of its dependencies not correctly registerThis can happen on some systems, depending upon the way the O/S was installed. There is a file in the BD Rebuilder folder (make sure you download the latest version: v0.31.02) called REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT. Right click on it and select "Run as Administrator". It will register the .OCX. When the software gets out of beta I'll register it as a part of the installation process. I extract it to the Desktop I highly recommend you create a folder on your hard drive (such as c:\applications\bd_rebuilder) and unzip into that instead of the desktop. Using the Desktop for installation of software isn't a good idea.I have used DVDFABHD and ANYDVDHD (purchased) but the dvdfabhd is only a trial version. The full version, costs a lot and I already pd for the other lifetime support
AnyDVDHD is recommended -- it is an excellent piece of software and I have yet to find a disc that it didn't reliably decrypt.If this bug with BD-rebuilder continues to give me problems, could someone direct me to a better solution in burning from the HHD to a 25GBR-DVD.As of today there are no other ways to do a full disc backup... but there are a couple of ways to manually do movie-only.

[ChldsPlay]

I've done GI Joe, and tested in power dvd, I will burn to bd-re and test in the PS3 and let you know if I have any issue.

Edit: Tested and confirmed working in the PS3, no issues at all, probably just a bad burn or bad authoring. Good luck!

That's weird. I've burned 3 discs, all do the same thing. All discs work perfectly with Power_DVD though. The PS3 even displays the GI Joe Icon, and it starts up and has the play symbol in the corner, but it just stays at the black screen. The little film strip thing never pops up before the menu loads.

This is the only movie that hasn't played at all in the PS3 for me.

[nunavik40]

hello has all here my 1st post, I specify that I am French and that my English is limited enough thus j' use data base rebuilder but j' always have the same problem of sound, impossible to keep is the track its Hd with a brd of 25go or even impossible to keep dts the BDR on a dvd-9 or a dvd-4.7 each time the track its is converted into dolby 5.1, I specify that I notch well put necessary in the menu setup. here a log of my backup of Braveheart in which I wanted to keep the track its in BDR.

[09:00:50] BD Rebuilder v0.31.02 (beta)
- Source: BRAVEHEART_F1
- Input BD size: 35,29 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:57:44.654]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[09:00:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:00:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [09:14:26] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
[10:34:23]PHASE ONE complete
[10:34:23]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:34:23] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:47:08] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:47:08]JOB: BRAVEHEART_F1 finished.


[Status]
LABEL=BRAVEHEART_F1
VERSION=v0.31.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=37887350784
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=37887350784
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.636551447935621
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00001]
AUDIO=01000
PGS=010000000000000000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=24117248000
RATE=16088
NSIZE=22229821440
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

hello has all here my 1st post, I specify that I am French and that my English is limited enough thus j' use data base rebuilder but j' always have the same problem of sound, impossible to keep is the track its Hd with a brd of 25go or even impossible to keep dts the BDR on a dvd-9 or a dvd-4.7 each time the track its is converted into dolby 5.1, I specify that I notch well put necessary in the menu setup. here a log of my backup of Braveheart in which I wanted to keep the track its in BDR. You probably have "Strict AVCHD" selected. DTS is not supported in the AVCHD standard, so it has to be converted.

[ChldsPlay]

Big Trouble in Little China has now run 100% fine without any errors. I'm thinking I may have confused BD RB because I believe I named my target folder "backup" so when it tried to restructure the files it got mixed up with the BACKUP folder in the structure.

[Pod7381]

You need to post your LOG, INF, and INI files... without them it is just a guess as to what is happening.

Hi jdobbs, I posted the info you requested (Post# 5986).
I was wondering if you had a chance to analyze my problem. Please advise...Many Thanks.

[jdobbs]

If you decide to download and test -- please post any errors you find in this thread. Don't push bug resolution or keep asking for a fix. I will get to the reported bugs, but only when I can find the time. I'm pretty busy with my real life right now.Just a friendly reminder from the first post of this thread... :cool: