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Audiophile1178
18th October 2013, 05:59
jdobbs,

First of all, I must say that this is a great tool for us encoders! I've been using it for a while now with very little problems. I recently stumbled upon a bug or two and want to report them, as well as, a request or two if that's ok. FYI, all of this information is regarding taking an original BD50 and encoding it down to a BD25.

Possible Bugs:
1. I just did the Mummy 2 and 3 which both have DTS Express for audio, as well as, including a Dolby Digital track for commentary. After BDRebuilder was done with each job it gave the commentary track the wrong ID (mPID) making the track hidden and not playable. I was able to easily fix it on each disc by changing the mPID in BDedit for the commentary track to one number lower than assigned by BDRebuilder therefore un hiding the track and making it functional again. I believe that BDRebuilder assigned the commentary tracks an mPID number that was after the DTS Express audio rendering it hidden. For instance, in the Mummy 3 it gave the commentary track an mPID number of 1102 (I believe if memory serves me right) which BDinfo stated that it was hidden. I then changed it to 1101 which un hid the track making it function normal again. It is also worth noting that I removed all audio language tracks that weren't English.
2. I use the option "Quick Encoding on Extras" with settings "QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1" and "QUICK_CRF=26" in BDRebuilder.ini. BDRebuilder is supposed to use one-pass CRF encoding on extras therefore reducing the extras significantly enabling more space to go towards the main movie title but in many cases it does two-pass encoding (same method on main movie) causing me to manually encode many parts of the disc by hand as they didn't get the proper encoding technique applied to them. After I encode the extras I then have to reencode the main title again to get it the proper size/bitrate that it was supposed to be. In a lot of recent movies extras are in 1080p with high bitrates so maybe BDRebuilder is getting confused?

Suggestions:
1. In many movies there can be a lot of extras and having to right-click to blank many VID's can be very tedious at times. I recently did a film where I had to blank 50 or more VID's. Would it be possible to enable BDRebuilder to use a keyboard key such as "b" on the keyboard when we have a VID selected in BDRebuilder to blank it therefore making it more efficient/faster to blank VID's?
2. This suggestion should help with possible bug #2. In seamless branching titles it's impossible to use "Quick Encoding on Extras" as BDRebuilder will encode many of the main movie VID's as extras. Would it be possible to enable the user to tell BDRebuilder what VID's are the main movie and what VID's are extras so that way the main movie would get high quality two-pass encoding settings applied to it while the extras would get the QUICK_CRF settings applied to them? It can be a hidden option just like blanking if you want. One method to possibly employ would be to right-click/use key "e" on keyboard on a VID and mark it as an extra and anything that doesn't have the extra flag assigned to it would get marked as main movie. This would help a lot of us users out tremendously if this feature was available. I can't stress enough how much this feature would help a lot of use out. :)

Thank you very much for your time and this great program of yours! :)

laserfan
18th October 2013, 13:29
I'm confused. I though you were talking about audio/subtitle selections that were being unchecked...

Those I have unchecked (deselected for inclusion) are coming-back again as Included.

BD-RB in Edit mode, with English checked under "Audio Langs to Keep" under Setup: In the Feature, de-select any of the "extra" English audiotracks, then Save as Project. Quit BD-RB. Launch BD-RB again and the Open Project i.e. the .epr you just saved. The audio track deselected before is selected again.

This same issue exists for the Subtitles i.e. de-select a sub and save the project, reload the project and the sub is selected again.
Well I thought I was clear but will try again: For example, in World War Z deselect (change to red X) the Descriptive Audio Service track (eng). Save to Project. Come-back later and Open that .epr. The Red X is gone and the DVS track is selected for inclusion again, wasting bits on this unwanted track.

Either running the project or including in Batch would not yield the desired result. It appears that the Setup checkbox "keep English..." always trumps the individual selections made under each video, or that the individual track selections are not included in the .epr.

So I can't go-thru and edit a movie to Save as Project and come-back to it later (and trust my settings), nor can I use Batch mode it seems.

AmigaFuture
19th October 2013, 05:31
@laserfan

I'm glad to see someone else is noticing that with edit, then Save the Project then load it again, and the edit(s) aren't kept.


BLANKED=00000011100 is being saved for Project. I haven't used Batch before. If I add a Project to Batch, it's saved there. Loading a Project doesn't retain, but the Batch profile does. Even if I exit BD-RB and reload. Batch is still there. Interesting. Okay, I'll do some more testing..

omegaman7
19th October 2013, 05:34
@laserfan

I'm glad to see someone else is noticing that with edit, then Save the Project then load it again, and the edit(s) aren't kept.

I have. Figured there was a reason for it. Haven't given it much thought. The way I run jobs, it's rare.

AmigaFuture
19th October 2013, 05:52
I updated my post. I rarely save Projects either because of all the other testing and using I've done with it. There are times when it WOULD be nice. Now that it seems Batch retains it, hehe, I'll try it as "Save Project". ;-)

Sharc
19th October 2013, 08:46
jdobbs,

2. This suggestion should help with possible bug #2. ...... Would it be possible to enable the user to tell BDRebuilder what VID's are the main movie and what VID's are extras so that way the main movie would get high quality two-pass encoding settings applied to it while the extras would get the QUICK_CRF settings applied to them? It can be a hidden option just like blanking if you want. One method to possibly employ would be to right-click/use key "e" on keyboard on a VID and mark it as an extra and anything that doesn't have the extra flag assigned to it would get marked as main movie. :)

Good suggestion, +1.
I am not sure whether it's a bug in the current version. There is just nothing which tells BDRB whether a file is an Extra, which leaves some uncertainty with the automatic decision.

jdobbs
20th October 2013, 00:31
I updated my post. I rarely save Projects either because of all the other testing and using I've done with it. There are times when it WOULD be nice. Now that it seems Batch retains it, hehe, I'll try it as "Save Project". ;-)Hmm... I must have overlooked that. I'll add it to the project as well.

I thought we were talking about audio/subtitles that were changed from the initial automatic selections -- not blanked titles...

MB2
20th October 2013, 17:10
Hi, tried to make a movie only of Curse Of Chucky and at the end it came up with this? Any ideas?

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[10/20/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[13:05:42] Source: CHUCKY_00801
- Input BD size: 26.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:41.045]
- Target BD size: 23.63 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:05:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:05:42] Processing: VID_00023 (1 of 10)
- [13:05:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [13:11:32] Reencoding video [VID_00023]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 39,087 frames
- Bitrate: 31,534 Kbs
- [13:11:32] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:21:26] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:10:08] Video Encode complete
- [14:10:09] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [14:12:25] Processing: VID_50357 (2 of 10)
- [14:12:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50357]
- [14:12:32] Reencoding video [VID_50357]
- [14:12:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:12:32] Processing: VID_50358 (3 of 10)
- [14:12:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50358]
- [14:14:58] Reencoding video [VID_50358]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 32,773 frames
- Bitrate: 31,684 Kbs
- [14:14:58] Reencoding: VID_50358, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:22:39] Reencoding: VID_50358, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:06:11] Video Encode complete
- [15:06:11] Processing: VID_50360 (4 of 10)
- [15:06:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50360]
- [15:06:21] Reencoding video [VID_50360]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,458 frames
- Bitrate: 32,102 Kbs
- [15:06:21] Reencoding: VID_50360, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:06:42] Reencoding: VID_50360, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:08:51] Video Encode complete
- [15:08:51] Processing: VID_50361 (5 of 10)
- [15:08:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50361]
- [15:09:57] Reencoding video [VID_50361]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,073 frames
- Bitrate: 31,833 Kbs
- [15:09:57] Reencoding: VID_50361, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:13:10] Reencoding: VID_50361, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:32:36] Video Encode complete
- [15:32:36] Processing: VID_50363 (6 of 10)
- [15:32:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50363]
- [15:32:43] Reencoding video [VID_50363]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 766 frames
- Bitrate: 32,125 Kbs
- [15:32:43] Reencoding: VID_50363, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:32:56] Reencoding: VID_50363, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:34:00] Video Encode complete
- [15:34:00] Processing: VID_50364 (7 of 10)
- [15:34:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50364]
- [15:35:09] Reencoding video [VID_50364]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,950 frames
- Bitrate: 32,084 Kbs
- [15:35:09] Reencoding: VID_50364, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:38:50] Reencoding: VID_50364, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:01:52] Video Encode complete
- [16:01:53] Processing: VID_50366 (8 of 10)
- [16:01:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50366]
- [16:02:00] Reencoding video [VID_50366]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 871 frames
- Bitrate: 32,045 Kbs
- [16:02:00] Reencoding: VID_50366, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:02:14] Reencoding: VID_50366, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:03:32] Video Encode complete
- [16:03:32] Processing: VID_50367 (9 of 10)
- [16:03:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50367]
- [16:05:31] Reencoding video [VID_50367]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 27,308 frames
- Bitrate: 31,881 Kbs
- [16:05:31] Reencoding: VID_50367, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:12:10] Reencoding: VID_50367, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:48:52] Video Encode complete
- [16:48:52] Processing: VID_50369 (10 of 10)
- [16:48:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50369]
- [16:49:28] Reencoding video [VID_50369]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,049 frames
- Bitrate: 31,736 Kbs
- [16:49:28] Reencoding: VID_50369, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:51:22] Reencoding: VID_50369, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:01:27] Video Encode complete
[17:01:27]PHASE ONE complete
[17:01:27]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:01:27] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: I:\CURSE OF CHUCKY\WORKFILES\00023.track_4113.264
[17:01:31] - Failed to REBUILD



Settings
[Status]
LABEL=CHUCKY
VERSION=v0.44.17 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=27996893184
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=27996893184
TARGET_SIZE=25375539200
REDUCTION=.906369825867033
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00023]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=7082942410
RATE=31534
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[50357]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=139675042
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50358]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=5966293857
RATE=31684
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50360]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=268858584
RATE=32102
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50361]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2573775208
RATE=31833
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50363]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=141351231
RATE=32125
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50364]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2755277027
RATE=32084
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50366]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=160335053
RATE=32045
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50367]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=5001682939
RATE=31881
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50369]
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=1285347848
RATE=31736
SPLITS=1
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

laserfan
20th October 2013, 17:21
Reencode of SALT (has DTS Express audio) showed no errors but when playing back on PowerDVD10 or Panasonic DMP-BD85 standalone there is NO English Master Audio.
I tried Salt myself yesterday and had a similar problem to the above post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1622155#post1622155) (and no LOG errors for me either) from late March v0.43.06 which AFAICT was never responded to or resolved, although I did find jdobbs that you said you'd done Salt w/o issues. Did you check that the DTS MA track was properly selected on playback for each of the three versions? None of them work for me.

I used "Movie & Menus (Auto-blank Extras)" and blanked some more things (trailers) before running, although for the main feature(s) I left all English audio & subtitles selected. But when I play it back, the audio track played is a 2-track 192kbps stereo track, not the DTS MA track, despite that according to MediaInfo these are all in the right place in the various .m2ts files.

Any ideas?

BDREBUILDER.INI
[Options]
DTSX_ENABLE=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=40
OUTPUT_FOLDER=E:\BD-RB_OUTPUT
OVERWRITE_PROMPT=0
SHOW_ENCODER=1
VERSION=0.44.0.17
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=1
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=V:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\BD-RB WORK\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGIndexNV\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGIndexNV\DGDecodeNV.dll

SALT.INF (start only, too big to include here)
[Status]
LABEL=SALT
VERSION=v0.44.17 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45952900759
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=45665476608
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.533315617354872
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=-1
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=158
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00011]
AUDIO=11110011111
PGS=110010101010
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
SPLITS=1
VIDEO2=2523852.94117647
V2MBRATE=7000
M2TS_TARGET=159712480
RATE=10551
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30273120
NSIZE=156223488
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
...

Audiophile1178
20th October 2013, 18:10
laserfan, it could be the same problem as I was having with my audio commentary with DTS Express audio. I didn't get an error as well with the two discs mentioned above. You might want to try to look at the mPID of the DTS-HD.MA audio to see what it is. BDRebuilder was consistently giving the audio commentary the wrong mPID number for my two discs as mentioned above. If that's what's wrong then it's really really easy to fix and should only take literally a min to fix in BDedit. When BDRebuilder gave the audio commentary the wrong mPID number for the commentary there was no audio as just like you were mentioning as the track was hidden.

For reference go to and look at possible bug #1 to get an idea of what I'm talking about:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1648474#post1648474

If you don't know how to use BDedit I might be able to give you some pointers on what to do. Changing the mPID number of the DTS-HD.MA audio track isn't that hard.

BTW, if BDRebuilder did give the DTS-HD.MA track the wrong mPID number and made it hidden you'd easily see this in BDinfo if you load the disc in it. You don't need to do any scans just load the disc. If it's hidden, it'll be indented with an asterisk noted that it's a hidden track.


P.S. I looked at your post back from march and these comments (to me) are a pretty good indicator of the wrong mPID number problem.

Next, (from SALT Main Menu) I selected English Stereo but playback is English Audio Descriptive Service.
Next, I selected English Audio Descriptive Service but playback is Filmmakers Commentary (which is actually from movie menu's Special Features ).
Although I reencoded English only audio, I figured I'd follow the pattern so I next selected French Master Audio but playback is English Master Audio (on PowerDVD only. NO audio on standalone).

It's as if the audio tracks are not linking properly to the movie's Main Menu.

I can't be certain without doing the disc myself but it can easily be tested in BDedit. One thing to note, it's always good to backup the mpls file (main movie mpls in this case) that you're going to modify in BDedit as a precaution. I know BDedit backs up the file anyway but I like to have my own backup as well.

jdobbs
21st October 2013, 15:51
I updated my post. I rarely save Projects either because of all the other testing and using I've done with it. There are times when it WOULD be nice. Now that it seems Batch retains it, hehe, I'll try it as "Save Project". ;-) I just looked at it, and "Save Project" adds that same line (as it should)... but I'll do some testing.

jdobbs
21st October 2013, 16:20
@Audiophile1178

I'm confused about the PID issue you're describing. I went back and read the post -- and it still isn't clear to me. You said the track had a DTS Express track and also a Dolby Digital track... but DTS Express is only used for PiP and isn't legal for a normal track. It appears you say it was 0x1100 -- that would make it a primary track, which isn't legal per the standard?? Are you sure it was DTS Express?

I can't imagine how BD-RB would assign a wrong PID, as it gives them back the same PID on a full backup -- and on a Movie-Only backup it wouldn't be aligned with any original settings so it wouldn't matter.

I'll pick up one of the Mummy movies you mentioned and see if I can repeat your issue... I'll also run SALT again using the settings laserfan posted.

laserfan
21st October 2013, 16:38
You might want to try to look at the mPID of the DTS-HD.MA audio to see what it is. BDRebuilder was consistently giving the audio commentary the wrong mPID

Thanks a lot AP for this. SALT has 3 different "main movie" mpls (different versions) and for each of them BDEdit shows mPID of 1011 under STN. I don't know what a mPID is, but when I look under any of the .clpi I see there PID numbers that show 1011 is the Video track. The DTS-HD XLL track is shown as 1100.

How would I use BDEdit to tell e.g. the Theatrical .mpls 00004 to use the 1100 audiotrack?

FWIW BDInfo does NOT show the DTS-HD MA track as hidden. It is the first audiotrack listed, and indeed MediaInfo shows the DTS track as the first one muxed-in to the .m2ts. There it's revealed that Audio #1 track 4352 is hex 0x1100. So it all *looks* fine to me but clearly the .mpls is screwed-up in some way?

:confused:
Oops in comparing the Original's first .clpi file to BD-RB's .clpi file, the video/audio tracks appear in different sequential order; for example, in the original the DTS-HD XLL hex 1100 track is number 3 on the list after the main Vid then the PIP Vid. But in the BD-RB .clpi the main vid is 1st but then next is the DTS 1100 track, and third is a DD stereo track. I'm pretty sure that stereo track is what the disc defaults to playing.

It seems I need to change the order of these--how to do that? But then too the original has 25 PIDs shown and my "blanked" BD-RB version has 17--some french and spanish tracks are gone.

jdobbs
21st October 2013, 16:56
Thanks a lot AP for this. SALT has 3 different "main movie" mpls (different versions) and for each of them BDEdit shows mPID of 1011 under STN. I don't know what a mPID is, but when I look under any of the .clpi I see there PID numbers that show 1011 is the Video track. The DTS-HD XLL track is shown as 1100.

How would I use BDEdit to tell e.g. the Theatrical .mpls 00004 to use the 1100 audiotrack?

FWIW BDInfo does NOT show the DTS-HD MA track as hidden. It is the first audiotrack listed, and indeed MediaInfo shows the DTS track as the first one muxed-in to the .m2ts. There it's revealed that Audio #1 track 4352 is hex 0x1100. So it all *looks* fine to me but clearly the .mpls is screwed-up in some way?

:confused:

I should note that the DTS audio 4352/hex1100 is consistent with the original BD numbering.If the PID is the same for both the original and the backup... then the same automatic or manual selection should follow through. I guess I need to see the disc to know what's going on. Which edition of the Blu-Ray are you using for the backup?

laserfan
21st October 2013, 17:12
If the PID is the same for both the original and the backup... then the same automatic or manual selection should follow through. I guess I need to see the disc to know what's going on. Which edition of the Blu-Ray are you using for the backup?

Yes the PIDs appear the same, just out of order (in the clpi files anyway).

Disc is US version as here (http://www.amazon.com/Salt-Deluxe-Unrated-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B0021L8V0W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382371654&sr=8-1) with most files dated 10/13/2010.

jdobbs
21st October 2013, 17:16
Yes the PIDs appear the same, just out of order (in the clpi files anyway).

Disc is US version as here (http://www.amazon.com/Salt-Deluxe-Unrated-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B0021L8V0W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382371654&sr=8-1) with most files dated 10/13/2010.Out of order?

I'm about ready to release the next version and I'd like to get this fixed and included...

Audiophile1178
21st October 2013, 17:41
@Audiophile1178

I'm confused about the PID issue you're describing. I went back and read the post -- and it still isn't clear to me. You said the track had a DTS Express track and also a Dolby Digital track... but DTS Express is only used for PiP and isn't legal for a normal track. It appears you say it was 0x1100 -- that would make it a primary track, which isn't legal per the standard?? Are you sure it was DTS Express?

I can't imagine how BD-RB would assign a wrong PID, as it gives them back the same PID on a full backup.

Jdobbs, thanks for the reply on the issue. You're getting slightly confused. I have no idea what the DTS Express track is getting assigned as it isn't shown in BDedit. My issue is regarding the mPID number of the dolby digital track (commentary). I believe that the DTS Express track is somehow triggering this bug. I'll provide screenshots to simulate what's going on as I already fixed it and don't know what BDRebuilder originally assigned for an mPID number of this track. The screenshots below are for the Mummy 3 which has 2 PIP videos and 2 DTS Express tracks. I believe that BDRebuilder assigned the dolby digital track (commentary) an mPID number of 1102 and that's what I did in my simulation as shown below.

Original Disc:
BDedit Screenshot
http://thumbnails101.imagebam.com/28315/a865b4283141507.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a865b4283141507)

BDRebuilder output:
BDedit Screenshot
http://thumbnails101.imagebam.com/28315/8b1b67283141503.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8b1b67283141503)
BDinfo Screenshot
http://thumbnails107.imagebam.com/28315/f37cb5283141510.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f37cb5283141510)

Fixed in BDedit:
BDedit Screenshot
http://thumbnails102.imagebam.com/28315/2f569a283141501.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2f569a283141501)
BDinfo Screenshot
http://thumbnails104.imagebam.com/28315/72010b283141509.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/72010b283141509)

Take notice of the last audio track (dolby digital) and you'll see that when it was assigned an mPID number of 1102 (BDRebuilder Output) the track is hidden as noted in BDinfo and wouldn't playback when selected in the menu on the disc. Once I changed it to 1101 it became un hidden and worked perfectly fine.

laserfan
21st October 2013, 17:56
Out of order?

Yes, as listed in the .clpi files by BDEdit. Might be completely irrelevant, I dunno, this is only an observation on my part. 00011.m2ts/.clpi happens to be the first linked file in every one of the three movie versions:

Original:
http://s21.postimg.org/n9x7ymlqf/SALTorig.jpg

Blanked/edited BD-RB output:
http://s21.postimg.org/mj4hsujd3/SALTbdrb.jpg

Audiophile1178
21st October 2013, 18:02
laserfan, I believe that the playlist is what really controls how audio/subs behave during playback. Click on the playlist for your movie and go to the STN section. In that section you'll see Vi Au PG etc... with numbers under them. Click on the number under Au (Audio) and it'll list all the audio tracks for that playlist. I believe that the audio tracks mPID and attrib should be the same as noted in the clipinf tab as shown in your screenshot in order for everything to work correctly so compare the clipinf with the playlist to make sure that everything matches up correctly.

To change the values of the audio tracks for the playlist just click on one of the audio tracks and below that box you'll see the mPID highlighted in blue with drop down boxes to the right of it. To change the mPID number type in a different value then click out of the box and hit save but before doing that copy the mpls files for the movie to another folder to back them up just to be safe.

BTW, I'm not saying that anything needs to be changed in your case. I don't know for sure but I'm merely trying to give some info on how to change the values.

laserfan
21st October 2013, 20:30
laserfan, I believe that the playlist is what really controls...

To change the values...

Audiophile, thanks! BDEdit needs a tutorial written; I nominate YOU! ;)

Seriously, I didn't know at all these basic BDEdit features, but I'm liking your train-of-thought here. Note the audiotracks below, where the missing/blanked audio tracks are assigned the same number 1100. But in any of the .m2ts files this .mpls is referring to the number 1100 seems to refer to the DTS-MA track.

I'm flying blind in re the 3 other eng tracks (for editing) but will muck-around and see if I can fix this by hand.

SALT mPIDs, Theatrical version 00004.mpls:

Original

1100 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, eng
1101 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1102 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1103 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, fra
1104 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, spa
1105 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng

BD-RB (with fra and spa blanked)

1101 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, eng
1102 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1103 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1100 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, fra
1100 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, spa
1104 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng

Well, I tried editing the .mpls and a Stereo 192kbps track is still first, and oddly the DTS-MA track is fourth, at least with Arcsoft TMT (my Sony player had the DTS track as the 4th selection also). Gotta dig some more.

g00g
21st October 2013, 20:33
g00g

If you are talking about Movie-only and seamless branching, the audio and subtitles you see in the one VID affects all the other VIDs. In other words, X out an audio stream in that one VID and it is automatically Xed out for all the VIDs

Actually this is not working for me.

Suppose the following:
Under setup the languages "english" and "spanish" are chosen and "limit to one track for each language" for audio and subtitle languages. When a BD which Main Movie consists of more than one VID file and contains the languages english, spanish und french is loaded only the languages english and spanish are chosen as they should. If I now add this job to the batch queue the entries audio=110110110 ... and subs= 110110110... can be found under the tab Batch > directory batch.
If I now remove the lastet entry under the tab Batch and decide to unset the spanish language for audio and subs under the tab Stream and add the job to batch queue again the entries audio and subs under the tab Batch > directory batch had changed just for one VID file and you can see something like audio=110100110... and subs=110100110...

IMHO the entries audio and subs should look like
audio=100100100... and subs=100100100

jdobbs
21st October 2013, 20:47
Audiophile, thanks! BDEdit needs a tutorial written; I nominate YOU! ;)

Seriously, I didn't know at all these basic BDEdit features, but I'm liking your train-of-thought here. Note the audiotracks below, where the missing/blanked audio tracks are assigned the same number 1100. But in any of the .m2ts files this .mpls is referring to the number 1100 seems to refer to the DTS-MA track.

I'm flying blind in re the 3 other eng tracks (for editing) but will muck-around and see if I can fix this by hand.

SALT mPIDs, Theatrical version 00004.mpls:

Original

1100 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, eng
1101 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1102 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1103 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, fra
1104 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, spa
1105 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng

BD-RB (with fra and spa blanked)

1101 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, eng
1102 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1103 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1100 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, fra
1100 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, spa
1104 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng

Well, I tried editing the .mpls and a Stereo 192kbps track is still first, and oddly the DTS-MA track is fourth, at least with Arcsoft TMT (my Sony player had the DTS track as the 4th selection also). Gotta dig some more. The 1100 is supposed to replace any removed audio tracks -- that's because in a full backup you can't just "remove", you have to reference a PID.

From what I see in your post, it looks like BD-RB did what it was supposed to do for those -- but for some reason the ACTUAL 1100 reference is off by one.

I have SALT running now... if you can wait a day or two it will be fixed.

g00g
21st October 2013, 20:47
Did auf Movie-Only backup of a DVD with DVD Rebuilder and importet this backup with BD Rebuilder. After import finished just the primary audio stream (in my case english) was in sync. Other stream lost sync after about 50 minutes. In the DVD backup all audio streams are in sync over the whole movie. Actually this is the first time I recognized this kind of error.

laserfan
21st October 2013, 21:33
I have SALT running now... if you can wait a day or two it will be fixed.

Thanks for doing this; let me know if you need me to confirm-or-check any of my settings.

gonca
21st October 2013, 23:58
g00g
In this case don't use DVD_RB as a middle man. Import the DVD with BD_RB. Sometimes a backup of a backup is not a good idea.

gonca
22nd October 2013, 00:00
Actually this is not working for me.

Suppose the following:
Under setup the languages "english" and "spanish" are chosen and "limit to one track for each language" for audio and subtitle languages. When a BD which Main Movie consists of more than one VID file and contains the languages english, spanish und french is loaded only the languages english and spanish are chosen as they should. If I now add this job to the batch queue the entries audio=110110110 ... and subs= 110110110... can be found under the tab Batch > directory batch.
If I now remove the lastet entry under the tab Batch and decide to unset the spanish language for audio and subs under the tab Stream and add the job to batch queue again the entries audio and subs under the tab Batch > directory batch had changed just for one VID file and you can see something like audio=110100110... and subs=110100110...

IMHO the entries audio and subs should look like
audio=100100100... and subs=100100100

Are you doing full disc or movie only backups?

Fooshnik
22nd October 2013, 00:16
Having issues with version 17. My backups are playing with scenes out of correct sequence. Not sure how many this has effected, but so far Peeples and Now You See Me. I have no idea if this is a faulty DVDFab 9 rip (though I think one was ripped by AnyDVD) or an issue with BD-R. I used DVDFab9 with earlier BD-R rips though and don't recall this issue.

Is there any way to use an older version to compare results and see if this is something specific to 17?

gonca
22nd October 2013, 00:24
Fooshnik
This might be a screenpass issue

Audiophile1178
22nd October 2013, 00:36
The 1100 is supposed to replace any removed audio tracks -- that's because in a full backup you can't just "remove", you have to reference a PID.


Yup, you can see this in action on my previous screenshots where I blanked ALL other languages other than English. That's why when you remove a language and select that language in the menu it'll play the first audio language (1100) as that's what's reference in the playlist.


From what I see in your post, it looks like BD-RB did what it was supposed to do for those -- but for some reason the ACTUAL 1100 reference is off by one.


Yea, I was going to post that if he changed each mPID in the playlist down one number that it might work as it should. This would be a lot easier and only take a min to do rather than have to run the whole disc again through BDRebuilder.

Try changing it to these values and see if it works:

1100 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, eng
1101 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1102 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1100 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, fra
1100 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, spa
1103 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng

Note, I believe that you said that there were three playlists that referenced the main movie so you'd have to do those edits to all three of those playlists to make sure that it works ok.

Audiophile, thanks! BDEdit needs a tutorial written; I nominate YOU! ;)

Seriously, I didn't know at all these basic BDEdit features, but I'm liking your train-of-thought here.
First of all, I didn't know about the mPID edits until about a month or so ago when another fellow doom9 member told me about it (You know who you are). :)

Secondly, thanks for the nomination but I hardly know how to use BDedit other than the playlist tab which I know how to use pretty well. I do agree that BDedit needs some sort of guide though as there are a lot of things that I want to do (like automatic English selection on Universal disc that ask for language at insertion of disc) as I know that it's possible but I'm clueless on how to do it. I really wish that there was some way to trace what a disc does as it's inserted into the player all the way until it hits the main menu. I think BDedit can do it but I don't know how as it's way over my head.

AmigaFuture
22nd October 2013, 00:41
Hmm... I must have overlooked that. I'll add it to the project as well.

I thought we were talking about audio/subtitles that were changed from the initial automatic selections -- not blanked titles...

Not with me.

I was only commenting about the contents of BLANKED= not being reselected when a Saved Project is reloaded. That could also affect audio/subtitles but I haven't checked them in a while.

Audiophile1178
22nd October 2013, 01:02
Having issues with version 17. My backups are playing with scenes out of correct sequence. Not sure how many this has effected, but so far Peeples and Now You See Me.

This might be a screenpass issue

^^^ Probably this. I'm sure that it has nothing to do with BDRebuilder but merely a way of circumventing copying the disc. I believe that "Now You See Me" uses seamless branching which is why it's playing out of order as the disc is probably referencing a playlist that tells it to play out of order. What I have done with this issue in the past is to find the correct playlist with BDinfo and find all the other playlists that are incorrect. Take the incorrect playlists and move them to another folder outside of the Blu-ray structure. Copy the the correct playlist x number of times and rename those copies to the same numbers of the incorrect playlists. It will probably play correctly now. If playback is good encode with BDRebuilder.

Example:

Correct Playlist: 00800.mpls
Incorrect Playlists: 00801.mpls, 00802.mpls, 00803.mpls, 00804.mpls.

1. Move incorrect playlists to another folder outside of your bluray structure.
2. Make 4 copies of 00800.mpls and rename those copies to 00801.mpls, 00802.mpls, 00803.mpls, 00804.mpls.
3. Verify proper playback in software player.
4. If #3 is good encode in BDRebuilder.

Note: The above method is merely an example (made up playlist numbers) of what you'd have to do for your two discs and NOT the actual playlist numbers.

gonca
22nd October 2013, 01:16
^^^ Probably this. I'm sure that it has nothing to do with BDRebuilder but merely a way of circumventing copying the disc. I believe that "Now You See Me" uses seamless branching which is why it's playing out of order as the disc is probably referencing a playlist that tells it to play out of order. What I have done with this issue in the past is to find the correct playlist with BDinfo and find all the other playlists that are incorrect. Take the incorrect playlists and move them to another folder outside of the Blu-ray structure. Copy the the correct playlist x number of times and rename those copies to the same numbers of the incorrect playlists. It will probably play correctly now. If playback is good encode with BDRebuilder.

Example:

Correct Playlist: 00800.mpls
Incorrect Playlists: 00801.mpls, 00802.mpls, 00803.mpls, 00804.mpls.

1. Move incorrect playlists to another folder outside of your bluray structure.
2. Make 4 copies of 00800.mpls and rename those copies to 00801.mpls, 00802.mpls, 00803.mpls, 00804.mpls.
3. Verify proper playback in software player.
4. If #3 is good encode in BDRebuilder.

Note: The above method is merely an example (made up playlist numbers) of what you'd have to do for your two discs and NOT the actual playlist numbers.

If doing a full disc back up this isn't necessary as the proper mpls is still there and used by the disc, if doing movie only then the proper playlist should be selected for the stream tab, with other movie-only playlist if need be.

Audiophile1178
22nd October 2013, 01:37
If doing a full disc back up this isn't necessary as the proper mpls is still there and used by the disc, if doing movie only then the proper playlist should be selected for the stream tab, with other movie-only playlist if need be.

I have to disagree with the full disc remark. If the copy protection wasn't removed correctly and the disc is referencing an improper playlist when you press the play button then what you need to do is replace that improper playlist with the correct one and my method as described above should work. Yes, you are correct that the proper playlist will be there on a whole disc backup but if the disc didn't have the copy protection properly removed then it'll have the playlist obfuscation problem which we had back in the day of when the "Hunger Games" first came out and AnyDVD didn't decode it properly. Everybody was getting incorrect playback of their "FULL DISC" as Fooshnik is describing. There has been discs to where there were 20 playlists for the main movie and there was only one correct playlist for the movie and all the others were the playlist obfuscation problem. Finding out which one is the correct playlist and removing all the other 19 incorrect playlists and follow the rest of my guide should fix this issue as even if a whole disc backup is referencing an incorrect playlist it wouldn't matter as you copied the correct playlist 19 times and renamed those copies to the same numbers as the incorrect playlist numbers so no matter what playlist the disc tries to access all 20 playlists are now correct.

Anyway, I was merely stating that it's most likely not a problem with BDRebuilder and made a suggestion on how to fix the issue.

Audiophile1178
22nd October 2013, 01:58
BTW, jdobbs I wasn't aware that you had a feature request thread and I posted my two requests in there. I'm sorry about putting them in here as up until now I wasn't aware that there was other threads for BDRebuilder as internet searches always lead me to this thread. :)

gonca
22nd October 2013, 02:08
I have to disagree with the full disc remark. If the copy protection wasn't removed correctly and the disc is referencing an improper playlist when you press the play button then what you need to do is replace that improper playlist with the correct one and my method as described above should work. Yes, you are correct that the proper playlist will be there on a whole disc backup but if the disc didn't have the copy protection properly removed then it'll have the playlist obfuscation problem which we had back in the day of when the "Hunger Games" first came out and AnyDVD didn't decode it properly. Everybody was getting incorrect playback of their "FULL DISC" as Fooshnik is describing. There has been discs to where there were 20 playlists for the main movie and there was only one correct playlist for the movie and all the others were the playlist obfuscation problem. Finding out which one is the correct playlist and removing all the other 19 incorrect playlists and follow the rest of my guide should fix this issue as even if a whole disc backup is referencing an incorrect playlist it wouldn't matter as you copied the correct playlist 19 times and renamed those copies to the same numbers as the incorrect playlist numbers so no matter what playlist the disc tries to access all 20 playlists are now correct.

The phony playlists, with the out of order m2ts files, isn't a copy protection per se. It is there more to mess up movie only back ups. With a multitude of similar length playlists it can make it awkward to pick the right playlist.

There is a similar type of protection, screen pass, which will play the wrong playlist while using BD-J to determine if it is a copy. I might have inadvertently misused the term screen pass for the first scenario. In this case you are right that the protection must be removed properly.

Audiophile1178
22nd October 2013, 02:34
There is a similar type of protection, screen pass, which will play the wrong playlist while using BD-J to determine if it is a copy.

That's what I'm trying to say. If the protection wasn't removed properly and it's playing the wrong playlist then using my method will work as you're removing ALL possible incorrect playlists and replacing them with the correct playlist. I have done this a few times as needed without issue. It does work!

gonca
22nd October 2013, 02:46
agreed

steveg32
22nd October 2013, 03:15
i have salt running now... If you can wait a day or two it will be fixed.

hooray! :d

AmigaFuture
22nd October 2013, 03:32
For a moment I thought there was something malfunctioning with Doom9's Web Page software when I saw the above JDobbs quote. I never saw a quote altered like that before till now.

Anyway... Dobbs, thanks for the IVTC_480i=n and IVTC_SELECTION=n options. They've proven a very useful combination for TiVo HD 1080i files. :D

jdobbs
22nd October 2013, 16:09
The phony playlists, with the out of order m2ts files, isn't a copy protection per se. It is there more to mess up movie only back ups. With a multitude of similar length playlists it can make it awkward to pick the right playlist.

There is a similar type of protection, screen pass, which will play the wrong playlist while using BD-J to determine if it is a copy. I might have inadvertently misused the term screen pass for the first scenario. In this case you are right that the protection must be removed properly. I call it "playlist obfuscation". If you are ripping with AnyDVD, by the way, you often don't have to worry about this. Much of the time AnyDVD detects the correct playlist and puts it in a file called "disc.inf". BD-RB looks at that file to see if a playlist is listed, and chooses the correct one.

jdobbs
22nd October 2013, 16:11
For a moment I thought there was something malfunctioning with Doom9's Web Page software when I saw the above JDobbs quote. I never saw a quote altered like that before till now.

Anyway... Dobbs, thanks for the IVTC_480i=n and IVTC_SELECTION=n options. They've proven a very useful combination for TiVo HD 1080i files. :D Which quote was that? Did I alter something?

g00g
22nd October 2013, 20:34
g00g
In this case don't use DVD_RB as a middle man. Import the DVD with BD_RB. Sometimes a backup of a backup is not a good idea.

Already tried that but it makes no difference.

As I have done all my backups via DVD_RB so fare and have never had any sync problems, I think this is another kind of problem.

Thanks.

g00g
22nd October 2013, 20:36
Are you doing full disc or movie only backups?

I am doing movie-only backups.

gonca
22nd October 2013, 21:49
I call it "playlist obfuscation". If you are ripping with AnyDVD, by the way, you often don't have to worry about this. Much of the time AnyDVD detects the correct playlist and puts it in a file called "disc.inf". BD-RB looks at that file to see if a playlist is listed, and chooses the correct one.

Playlist obfuscation. I kept trying to think of the term and it wouldn't come to me. Thanks. AnyDVD picks the correct one most of the times but every so often it will pick the wrong one. I notice that on some of these the US - Canada releases will have a different correct playlist even though all the playlist numbers are the same, apparently different parts of the US could have different correct playlists.

Ch3vr0n
22nd October 2013, 22:00
If it picks the wrong playlist you need to inform the folks at slysoft and provide a logfile for the affected disc so they can fix it that anydvd picks the right one

RobertM
22nd October 2013, 22:10
I notice that on some of these the US - Canada releases will have a different correct playlist even though all the playlist numbers are the same, apparently different parts of the US could have different correct playlists.

I agree, absolutely. I recently did 'Now You See Me' and it took quite a while to find the correct playlist from dozens of playlists with almost the same play length. I found that the 'obfuscated' playlists usually had repeating video segments, where a short video segment was duplicated with different m2ts file names and was then included multiple times in the playlist. I've seen this before, and now that I've got a feel for the pattern I think the next time will be quicker ;)

AmigaFuture
22nd October 2013, 22:55
Which quote was that? Did I alter something?

You didn't. I noticed this:

From this:
Originally Posted by jdobbs
I have SALT running now... if you can wait a day or two it will be fixed.

To this..in a reply by steveg32..

Originally Posted by jdobbs
i have salt running now... If you can wait a day or two it will be fixed.

hooray! :d

Which is why I wondered about the Software Doom9 is using. A fun observation.

gonca
22nd October 2013, 23:09
If it picks the wrong playlist you need to inform the folks at slysoft and provide a logfile for the affected disc so they can fix it that anydvd picks the right one

I realize that, however if a couple of people from my "region" have already submitted logs it may be better to be patient and wait for the Slysoft team to do its thing.

Lathe
22nd October 2013, 23:29
You didn't. I noticed this:

From this:


To this..in a reply by steveg32..



Which is why I wondered about the Software Doom9 is using. A fun observation.

AF, you are one OBSERVANT li'l bugger! :D

AmigaFuture
23rd October 2013, 00:06
AF, you are one OBSERVANT li'l bugger! :D

Hahaha!! Thanks. I Am (Usually...). I've also been told that many times in my life. Which is also why I can see quality differences in Video that most don't see and say is not possible. ;-) Annnnnything is possible...with focus and vibrational awareness. For more awesome insights into human possibilities...may I suggest Stan Lee's Superhumans?

Audiophile1178
23rd October 2013, 07:59
Jdobbs, I just wanted to inform you that I came across another disc with the improper mPID number to the dolby digital commentary tracks in the playlist. This movie (X-MEN: Wolverine) has 3 PIP videos and 3 DTS Express audio tracks. From what I can see I believe that BDRebuilder is somehow thinking that the DTS Express tracks belong in the main audio section and assigning the mPID numbers to the DD commentary tracks after the DTS Express tracks thus labeling the DD commentary tracks as hidden as noted in BDinfo. For instance on this disc there's the main DTS-HD.MA track that gets the value of 1200 and then I believe that BDRebuilder leaves the following values of 1201-1203 for the DTS Express tracks (that aren't in the list nor belong in that Au list) as there's three of them and then goes on to assign the DD tracks the values of 1204 and 1205. As you can see the DD tracks are far off from one number as they should have 1201 and 1202 as noted correctly in the clipinf screenshot shown below.

Source Info:

Playlist:
http://thumbnails107.imagebam.com/28370/43aee4283693758.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/43aee4283693758)

Clipinf:
http://thumbnails108.imagebam.com/28370/bfe9dc283693760.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/bfe9dc283693760)

BDinfo:
http://thumbnails104.imagebam.com/28370/888bfc283693763.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/888bfc283693763)

BDRebuilder output info:

BDedit Playlist (Note incorrect mPID numbers circled in RED):
http://thumbnails107.imagebam.com/28339/c1a02a283387853.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c1a02a283387853)

BDedit Clipinf (The DD tracks are correct in the Clipinf file):
http://thumbnails103.imagebam.com/28339/605e0a283387854.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/605e0a283387854)

BDinfo Screenshot of DD tracks hidden and not working due to incorrect mPID numbers:
http://thumbnails107.imagebam.com/28339/66e63b283387857.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/66e63b283387857)

You may take notice that in the BDedit playlist tab that there isn't any PIP videos or audio tracks shown. That's because there's four different playlist for this movie each having their own unique characteristics of what video/audio tracks are included in each one of them.

I'm also currently doing "Gangster Squad" which has a PIP & DTS Express track in it so I'm expecting that the DD audio commentary track will be one number off in the playlist since there's only one DTS Express track on this disc to trip it up.

Hopefully, these screenshots are helpful to you and if you need anymore info just let me know and I'll be glad to provide it to you to help assist you in this problem. :)

laserfan
23rd October 2013, 13:03
Yea, I was going to post that if he changed each mPID in the playlist down one number that it might work as it should. This would be a lot easier and only take a min to do rather than have to run the whole disc again through BDRebuilder.

Try changing it to these values and see if it works:

1100 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, eng
1101 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1102 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng
1100 DTS-HD XLL, Multi-ch., 48 kHz, fra
1100 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, spa
1103 DD, Stereo, 48 kHz, eng

FWIW AP I did try your suggestion and it didn't work. There's something more involved with this methinks, and I expect it may take a while, once he confirms the problem, for our capable host to unravel the mystery.

jdobbs
23rd October 2013, 13:22
FWIW AP I did try your suggestion and it didn't work. There's something more involved with this methinks, and I expect it may take a while, once he confirms the problem, for our capable host to unravel the mystery.I've fixed it. I did a full backup of SALT yesterday using your INI settings and it worked correctly.

It was caused by the audio tracks being out-of-order in the original CLPI. There's nothing in the spec that says they have to be in order -- but until this disc I hadn't seen any that weren't sequential. Anyway, its done.

laserfan
23rd October 2013, 17:51
Great to hear! Do you have an ETA for the new release e.g. Sunday "as usual"? :)

Audiophile1178
23rd October 2013, 17:51
FWIW AP I did try your suggestion and it didn't work. There's something more involved with this methinks, and I expect it may take a while, once he confirms the problem, for our capable host to unravel the mystery.

Yea, I just looked at your screenshots again and realized that you have 7 DD eng tracks in your clipinf file but you only stated that there were 3 DD eng tracks in the playlist that you had selected. You also stated that there were two other playlists so I only had 1/3 of the information and I'd be pretty certain that the other two playlists would be setup slightly different. I'd imagine that the other 4 DD eng tracks would go in the other two playlists somewhere but without having the disc in front of me it's pretty hard to give you 100% correct information as there's still 2/3 of the info still missing. I'm guessing that some of those DD tracks are hidden on certain playlists which is why there's only 3 on that one playlist that you posted. Like I said before it was merely a suggestion on what I've been doing to get my audio tracks working again but apparently you issue was a bit more involved. Anyway, jdobbs has you covered and you'll be good to go once he posts the new version. :)

I've fixed it. I did a full backup of SALT yesterday using your INI settings and it worked correctly.

It was caused by the audio tracks being out-of-order in the original CLPI. There's nothing in the spec that says they have to be in order -- but until this disc I hadn't seen any that weren't sequential. Anyway, its done.

Will this fix my issue as well?

BTW, I just did "Ganster Squad" last night and everything turned out fine. This bug was not present. Maybe it only happens when there's more than one playlist for the movie? Which may be why Ganster Squad wasn't effected as it only has one playlist for the movie.

jdobbs
23rd October 2013, 17:57
Will this fix my issue as well?You didn't post the original CLPI so I can't say for sure -- but it's likely it will.

jdobbs
23rd October 2013, 18:04
Great to hear! Do you have an ETA for the new release e.g. Sunday "as usual"? :)I've got what I believe to be a minor bug that I need to run down first -- then it should be ready.

Audiophile1178
24th October 2013, 20:17
You didn't post the original CLPI so I can't say for sure -- but it's likely it will.

I modified my post #18052 to include that info. If you need anything else let me know.

When you release the next version I'll test it out on these discs to see if it's fixed. From my understanding, if I follow the same process (removing audio tracks, blanking vids, etc) but don't encode the disc and run it through BDRebuilder it should tell me if the bug is present or not without having to go through the encoding process?

On a side note, would you ever consider adding my feature request into BDRebuilder (Post #180002 feature request #2) of manually marking vid's as extras? I'm merely just asking as I have two discs that I want to encode that have seamless branching with DTS Express and I'm wondering if I should try to figure out how to encode these discs the way that I want it (using CRF on extras) or wait for your implementation. Please understand that I'm not asking that it get done now but merely wondering if it's something that'll be added on your to do list so that I know how to proceed with these discs.

Again, thank you for this wonderful program and your continuing support for it! :)

Audiophile1178
24th October 2013, 20:34
jdobbs, I just found out that it looks like the recently updated tsMuxeR now supports DTS Express as I was able to demux the 3 DTS Express audio tracks for X-MEN: WOLVERINE. Will this mean that BDRebuilder will now support DTS Express properly to work correctly on all players?

jdobbs
24th October 2013, 20:53
jdobbs, I just found out that it looks like the recently updated tsMuxeR now supports DTS Express as I was able to demux the 3 DTS Express audio tracks for X-MEN: WOLVERINE. Will this mean that BDRebuilder will now support DTS Express properly to work correctly on all players?Yes... but that version of TSMUXER is still in early beta (it was alpha not long ago). I'll support it as soon as I've tested it enough and know it's stable.

HWK
24th October 2013, 21:11
jdobbs, I just found out that it looks like the recently updated tsMuxeR now supports DTS Express as I was able to demux the 3 DTS Express audio tracks for X-MEN: WOLVERINE. Will this mean that BDRebuilder will now support DTS Express properly to work correctly on all players?

Yes... but that version of TSMUXER is still in early beta (it was alpha not long ago). I'll support it as soon as I've tested it enough and know it's stable.

As jdobbs said it is early beta version and according release notes it is not fully finished yet either. However one of the great add-on so far is support for creating iso image directly within.

version 1.12.10(b):
- add DTS-express support. Is not fully complete yet, tsMuxeR doesn't produce subpath for secondary audio

jdobbs
24th October 2013, 21:39
As jdobbs said it is early beta version and according release notes it is not fully finished yet either. However one of the great add-on so far is support for creating iso image directly within. A great addition -- and the only way of truly supporting BD 3D.

Audiophile1178
24th October 2013, 21:48
Yes, I just read that but it's nice to know that the software is being worked on again as I know that jdobbs had trouble implementing DTS Express in the first place and if I remember reading correctly he stated that it would be a lot easier if tsMuxeR was updated to support DTS Express. It now looks like it's being worked on again so hopefully with enough time it'll be fully supported.

HWK
24th October 2013, 22:15
A great addition -- and the only way of truly supporting BD 3D.

Indeed it is just few days ago, physic said he would add support for processing full disc. My guess is it would go like this open or drag bdmv folder in tsmuxer and it will display all title on disc and user can modify title and it will rebuild disc and update necessary files.


Edit: Here is the link if any wants to read it.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1649212#post1649212

marco421
25th October 2013, 19:00
i have just installed bdrebuilder, ffdshow, haali splitter, avisynth, imgburn. i immedialely get an error 'failure to retrieve audio'. right above that msg, it said bitstream exception and contact somebody. win 7 64-bit, sp 1. was working fine, but i had to do a full recovery. ami i missing an app or file of some kind?

please help.

HWK
25th October 2013, 19:07
i have just installed bdrebuilder, ffdshow, haali splitter, avisynth, imgburn. i immedialely get an error 'failure to retrieve audio'. right above that msg, it said bitstream exception and contact somebody. win 7 64-bit, sp 1. was working fine, but i had to do a full recovery. ami i missing an app or file of some kind?

please help.

Just a quick question you source of download for ffdshow, haali splitter, avisynth were first thread of BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only. Jdobbs want specific version only.

Also post logs from BD-RB

Ch3vr0n
26th October 2013, 02:31
I've encountered a weird issue with "Man of Steel, barcode 5051888154366". When using DGdecNV, after demuxing tsmuxer closes and bdrb just "sits" there at 100% of "Extracting/indexing VID_00001". I doublechecked task manager and it was indeed not closed. Aborting and restarting results in "directory not empty, start over?". Extracting that way takes about half an hour and never goes into the recoding phase. Now here's the weird part. If i swap to internal x264 LAVF frameserving the extracting completes in 17 minutes and then goes about it's business as usual and goes into recoding phase.

so for some reason on this movie DGIndexNV is SLOWER than LAVF (afaik it should be the other way arround), and DGIndexNV never goes into the x264 encoding phase while LAVF just operates normally.

greslogo
26th October 2013, 03:21
I have the same problem with DGdecNV as you have but with The Conjuring. I started it, again, and the second time it went into the rebuild phase. In this case, it didn't need to reencode.

Fooshnik
26th October 2013, 06:18
I have to disagree with the full disc remark. If the copy protection wasn't removed correctly and the disc is referencing an improper playlist when you press the play button then what you need to do is replace that improper playlist with the correct one and my method as described above should work. Yes, you are correct that the proper playlist will be there on a whole disc backup but if the disc didn't have the copy protection properly removed then it'll have the playlist obfuscation problem which we had back in the day of when the "Hunger Games" first came out and AnyDVD didn't decode it properly. Everybody was getting incorrect playback of their "FULL DISC" as Fooshnik is describing. There has been discs to where there were 20 playlists for the main movie and there was only one correct playlist for the movie and all the others were the playlist obfuscation problem. Finding out which one is the correct playlist and removing all the other 19 incorrect playlists and follow the rest of my guide should fix this issue as even if a whole disc backup is referencing an incorrect playlist it wouldn't matter as you copied the correct playlist 19 times and renamed those copies to the same numbers as the incorrect playlist numbers so no matter what playlist the disc tries to access all 20 playlists are now correct.

Anyway, I was merely stating that it's most likely not a problem with BDRebuilder and made a suggestion on how to fix the issue.

Thanks gentlemen. Quick questions: What's the quickest way to verify the correct playlist? Is this something that's likely to only be an issue with Sony disks?

omegaman7
26th October 2013, 07:08
I have to disagree with the full disc remark. If the copy protection wasn't removed correctly and the disc is referencing an improper playlist when you press the play button then what you need to do is replace that improper playlist with the correct one and my method as described above should work. Yes, you are correct that the proper playlist will be there on a whole disc backup but if the disc didn't have the copy protection properly removed then it'll have the playlist obfuscation problem which we had back in the day of when the "Hunger Games" first came out and AnyDVD didn't decode it properly. Everybody was getting incorrect playback of their "FULL DISC" as Fooshnik is describing. There has been discs to where there were 20 playlists for the main movie and there was only one correct playlist for the movie and all the others were the playlist obfuscation problem. Finding out which one is the correct playlist and removing all the other 19 incorrect playlists and follow the rest of my guide should fix this issue as even if a whole disc backup is referencing an incorrect playlist it wouldn't matter as you copied the correct playlist 19 times and renamed those copies to the same numbers as the incorrect playlist numbers so no matter what playlist the disc tries to access all 20 playlists are now correct.

Anyway, I was merely stating that it's most likely not a problem with BDRebuilder and made a suggestion on how to fix the issue.

"Source code" came before "Hunger Games". Just saying... :p

Audiophile1178
26th October 2013, 07:41
Thanks gentlemen. Quick questions: What's the quickest way to verify the correct playlist? Is this something that's likely to only be an issue with Sony disks?

Usually if it's a big problem a google search will be your best friend. For instance, on the Hunger Games if you google search "Hunger Games correct playlist" (without quotes) will usually lead to some forum (most likely slysoft or dvdfab). I know it's not exactly what you want to hear but unless you really know the movie well or want to watch every playlist then an internet search will be your best option.

I'll try to help you:

Now You See Me:
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6972

Peeples:
I'm not sure about this disc as there isn't a lot that I found quickly on the net. I would probably use BDinfo to help look at all the playlists and time to try to determine which one might be correct.

The question was asked about this disc here but nobody responded:
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7122

Read through some of the information on here to possibly help you out on this disc:
https://forum.slysoft.com/forumdisplay.php?53-AnyDVD-HD

Basically, you could use BDinfo to see if there are m2ts files that are repeated in a playlist. If there is then you can eliminate those playlists as a movie isn't going to play the same m2ts file twice. You can also play certain parts to try to get an idea of how the movie should be played in order (like a jig saw puzzle). Find the first and last m2ts file (just like jig saw puzzle of starting with outside/corner pieces) and see what playlists have those m2ts files as the first and last. Then try to find out what m2ts file would play after the first one and keep on working the playlists like that until you found the correct one.

"Source code" came before "Hunger Games". Just saying... :p
LOL


BTW, this is SOOO off topic of BDRebuilder bugs reports.

jdobbs
30th October 2013, 01:18
I have SALT running now... if you can wait a day or two it will be fixed. Sorry for the delay. I've found a couple things that needed fixing -- and they turned out to be bigger than I thought. It shouldn't be much longer.

A.Fenderson
30th October 2013, 02:05
My apologies if this has been mentioned.

Selecting any input directory ending in (but not completely comprised of) "_BDMV" (and possibly just "BDMV") instantly throws an error that the content is not Blu-ray format. Adding anything to the end of one of these directories prevents this from happening.

jdobbs
30th October 2013, 03:02
My apologies if this has been mentioned.

Selecting any input directory ending in (but not completely comprised of) "_BDMV" (and possibly just "BDMV") instantly throws an error that the content is not Blu-ray format. Adding anything to the end of one of these directories prevents this from happening.Maybe I'm confused. But if a folder name isn't named exactly BDMV or it doesn't contain a folder called (exactly) BDMV -- then it isn't Blu-ray and the message seems appropriate.

AmigaFuture
30th October 2013, 03:20
Jdobbs, You're confused about many things (Haaa, Haaa, Haaa) but not that. :cool:

A.Fenderson
30th October 2013, 03:23
Maybe I'm confused. But if a folder name isn't named exactly BDMV or it doesn't contain a folder called (exactly) BDMV -- then it isn't Blu-ray and the message seems appropriate.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. The folder in question did contain both "BDMV" & "CERTIFICATE" folders and otherwise passed verification once it was renamed so that it did not end in "_BDMV".

The input folder was essentially named 'movie_name_here_BDMV' as it was a Blu-ray remux of a digital OTA TV show I had recorded the raw MPEG stream of. That input folder then contained both the BDMV and CERTFICATE folders created by tsMuxeR. Obviously, since I named these myself and it's preprocessed content, it's not a case of any particular Blu-ray giving a problem--more of a heads-up that whatever logic you have to test for proper Blu-ray format is overriden any time the input folder's name ends in "_BDMV" and in all cases a false-positive for it being incorrect format is reported. Once the name of the input folder is changed so that it does not end with "_BDMV" it is accepted and can then be processed.

pasadena
30th October 2013, 09:28
I have a question with regards to movies with TrueHD Sound tracks.

In short, BD's I have ripped with a DTS-HD track, authored to a movie only custom 12GB ISO image with high speed option works fine when playing back through either my Oppo BDP-95 or Popcornhour PCH-A400. When performing the above with TrueHD tracks, playback of the ISO images works perfectly fine through the Oppo BDP-95. Through the PCH-A400, the 10-15 seconds cannot be heard. Playing back the Full ISO image with TrueHD track on the A400 works fine.

There seems to be something during the encode that causes the A400 to dropout TrueHD audio in the first 10-15 seconds. Has anyone else come across this?

----------------------
[10/30/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[15:05:40] Source: TRANSFORMERS_3_EU_00800
- Input BD size: 42.47 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:34:23.295]
- Target BD size: 11.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:05:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:05:40] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 1)
- [15:05:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [15:15:14] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 222,097 frames
- Bitrate: 2,754 Kbs
- [15:15:14] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:15:15] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:12:35] Video Encode complete
- [16:12:35] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[16:12:35]PHASE ONE complete
[16:12:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:12:36] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:17:04] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[16:17:04] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- TRANSFORMERS_3_EU folder removed.
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[16:22:29] JOB: TRANSFORMERS_3_EU finished.

[Status]
LABEL=TRANSFORMERS_3_EU
VERSION=v0.44.17 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45600626688
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=45600626688
TARGET_SIZE=12582912000
REDUCTION=.27593726038224
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00800]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=00100000001
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=12582912000
RATE=2754
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=443846880

Thanks

Wizzu
30th October 2013, 12:11
Thanks again for the nifty app. :-) Its gets better and better with each release. Very glad user here.

To the subject:

Don't know if it's a bug, but ever since the "Quick play" feature exists, my Panasonic BD-75 player refuses to play discs made this way, with a "Copyright violation" message.

Full backups and movie-only backups play totally fine on this player, thus I'm wondering what can be different with Quick-play backups, to make my player refuse them...

laserfan
30th October 2013, 13:22
I have SALT running now... if you can wait a day or two it will be fixed.

Sorry for the delay. I've found a couple things that needed fixing -- and they turned out to be bigger than I thought. It shouldn't be much longer.

NP at all. Last night I watched the Theatrical version and it was A LOT better than I expected. I should have known from his review--I'm gonna miss Roger Ebert...

:(

Guest
30th October 2013, 16:53
Posts discussing forum rules have been deleted per rules 3 and 17. Please remain on topic and leave the moderating to the moderators. Thank you.

jdobbs
31st October 2013, 22:17
My apologies if this has been mentioned.

Selecting any input directory ending in (but not completely comprised of) "_BDMV" (and possibly just "BDMV") instantly throws an error that the content is not Blu-ray format. Adding anything to the end of one of these directories prevents this from happening. That was an odd one for someone to trip across. :) I've fixed it for the next release.

A.Fenderson
31st October 2013, 22:22
I have an unfortunate habit of finding outliers and oddities. :-)
Thanks for your continuing work on a great program.

ghasting
2nd November 2013, 00:25
This has happed twice with Step Brothers.

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[11/01/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[05:46:59] Source: STEP_BROTHERS_00004
- Input BD size: 25.24 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:37:48.278]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[05:46:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [05:46:59] Processing: VID_00274 (1 of 12)
- [05:46:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00274]
- [05:55:35] Reencoding video [VID_00274]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,749 frames
- Bitrate: 27,992 Kbs
- [05:55:35] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:59:43] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:19:23] Video Encode complete
- [06:19:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [06:19:24] Processing: VID_00328 (2 of 12)
- [06:19:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
- [06:19:30] Reencoding video [VID_00328]
- [06:19:30] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [06:19:30] Processing: VID_00329 (3 of 12)
- [06:19:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00329]
- [06:20:55] Reencoding video [VID_00329]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,120 frames
- Bitrate: 26,962 Kbs
- [06:20:55] Reencoding: VID_00329, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:27:13] Reencoding: VID_00329, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:50:02] Video Encode complete
- [06:50:02] Processing: VID_00330 (4 of 12)
- [06:50:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00330]
- [06:50:20] Reencoding video [VID_00330]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,618 frames
- Bitrate: 28,664 Kbs
- [06:50:20] Reencoding: VID_00330, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:51:29] Reencoding: VID_00330, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:55:50] Video Encode complete
- [06:55:50] Processing: VID_00331 (5 of 12)
- [06:55:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00331]
- [06:58:31] Reencoding video [VID_00331]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 27,095 frames
- Bitrate: 27,010 Kbs
- [06:58:31] Reencoding: VID_00331, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:10:30] Reencoding: VID_00331, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:50:44] Video Encode complete
- [07:50:44] Processing: VID_00332 (6 of 12)
- [07:50:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00332]
- [07:51:09] Reencoding video [VID_00332]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,010 frames
- Bitrate: 27,518 Kbs
- [07:51:09] Reencoding: VID_00332, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:52:40] Reencoding: VID_00332, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:58:28] Video Encode complete
- [07:58:28] Processing: VID_00333 (7 of 12)
- [07:58:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00333]
- [08:00:11] Reencoding video [VID_00333]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 17,679 frames
- Bitrate: 27,020 Kbs
- [08:00:11] Reencoding: VID_00333, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:06:53] Reencoding: VID_00333, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:31:34] Video Encode complete
- [08:31:34] Processing: VID_00334 (8 of 12)
- [08:31:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00334]
- [08:31:56] Reencoding video [VID_00334]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,392 frames
- Bitrate: 27,058 Kbs
- [08:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00334, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:33:12] Reencoding: VID_00334, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:38:04] Video Encode complete
- [08:38:04] Processing: VID_00335 (9 of 12)
- [08:38:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00335]
- [08:38:32] Reencoding video [VID_00335]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,602 frames
- Bitrate: 27,704 Kbs
- [08:38:32] Reencoding: VID_00335, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:40:34] Reencoding: VID_00335, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:48:41] Video Encode complete
- [08:48:41] Processing: VID_00336 (10 of 12)
- [08:48:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00336]
- [08:49:12] Reencoding video [VID_00336]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,505 frames
- Bitrate: 27,096 Kbs
- [08:49:12] Reencoding: VID_00336, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:51:16] Reencoding: VID_00336, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:59:04] Video Encode complete
- [08:59:04] Processing: VID_00337 (11 of 12)
- [08:59:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00337]
- [09:02:44] Reencoding video [VID_00337]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 36,805 frames
- Bitrate: 27,669 Kbs
- [09:02:44] Reencoding: VID_00337, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:16:54] Reencoding: VID_00337, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:09:15] Video Encode complete
- [10:09:15] Processing: VID_00338 (12 of 12)
- [10:09:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00338]
- [10:10:28] Reencoding video [VID_00338]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,761 frames
- Bitrate: 28,103 Kbs
- [10:10:28] Reencoding: VID_00338, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:13:56] Reencoding: VID_00338, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:25:00] Video Encode complete
[10:25:00]PHASE ONE complete
[10:25:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:25:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: D:\DVD WORK\BLU RAY\RECODE\WORKFILES\00274.track_4113.264
[16:20:27] - Failed to REBUILD

jdobbs
2nd November 2013, 03:07
Have you looked in the folder to see if 00274.track_4113.264 actually exists?

ghasting
2nd November 2013, 05:18
The track doesn't exist.

jdobbs
2nd November 2013, 13:55
The track doesn't exist.Interesting. The log shows that it completed both encode passes with no issues. I can't imagine how the .264 file could have simply disappeared?

RobertM
2nd November 2013, 19:06
Interesting. The log shows that it completed both encode passes with no issues. I can't imagine how the .264 file could have simply disappeared?

The exact same thing happened to me in the past too. Log looked fine up to the point where it tried to rebuild the BD structure and then it couldn't find the required files. It only happened that one time, and never again. The title was "Now You See Me".

Darth_Emma
5th November 2013, 04:15
I have been getting BDRB "not responding" errors when I launch the program. When I finally did get BDRB to launch, it takes several minutes to scan the source directory (the ISO mounted using Virtual Clone Drive). I tried to rebuild "Monsters University" and the rebuild failed after it ran for about an hour.

I'm running Windows7 64 bit and all other software is up to date.

Is anyone else getting such errors?

omegaman7
5th November 2013, 06:00
I have been getting BDRB "not responding" errors when I launch the program. When I finally did get BDRB to launch, it takes several minutes to scan the source directory (the ISO mounted using Virtual Clone Drive). I tried to rebuild "Monsters University" and the rebuild failed after it ran for about an hour.

I'm running Windows7 64 bit and all other software is up to date.

Is anyone else getting such errors?

That's a pretty new movie. I wonder if the ISO has been completely/properly decrypted.

WSLN 6
5th November 2013, 13:20
I have had problems with this movie as well. One conversion just ended up with a green screen. The next one worked, but av sync was off. Took a 150 msec amp adjustment to correct it.

jdobbs
5th November 2013, 14:50
I have had problems with this movie as well. One conversion just ended up with a green screen. The next one worked, but av sync was off. Took a 150 msec amp adjustment to correct it.It's probably something that needs to be addressed by Slysoft/AnyDVD -- but I'll take a look at it.

Darth_Emma
5th November 2013, 16:34
I agree. After fiddling with things for a bit, I think the problem is in the movie decryption. I will wait for a Slysoft update to try again.

BDRB runs fine is I don't have the Monsters University iso running in virtual clone drive in the source directory. So, it has to be that movie in particular.

I will report back after Slysoft updates their software.

Thanks for your help.

CV91913
5th November 2013, 18:00
You could try taking the virtual drive out of the equation. Rip the disk to the HD instead of an iso. Use the resulting hd structure as the source.

omegaman7
5th November 2013, 18:09
You could try taking the virtual drive out of the equation. Rip the disk to the HD instead of an iso. Use the resulting hd structure as the source.

If it's a 3D ISO, that would be ill advised. I've never had a problem using the Virtual drives. However I agree, if the virtual drive is the problem, it should be addressed.

CV91913
5th November 2013, 19:19
If it's a 3D ISO, that would be ill advised. I've never had a problem using the Virtual drives. However I agree, if the virtual drive is the problem, it should be addressed.
Agreed. Not familiar with the movie...did not realize it was 3d.

jdobbs
5th November 2013, 19:29
I didn't either. I have the 2D version running now doing a movie-only backup. What a cludge... there are over 300 CLPI files that had to be scanned... ughh.

omegaman7
5th November 2013, 19:32
I don't believe he suggested it was 3D. I was simply suggesting that running 3D jobs through Bd Rebuilder, may HAVE to be in ISO format.

RobertM
5th November 2013, 19:57
What a cludge...

Kludge!

jdobbs
5th November 2013, 20:22
Kludge!Correction noted.

Darth_Emma
5th November 2013, 21:22
I don't think the version of Monsters University I'm using is 3D. I don't see 3D on it anywhere. It's just Blu-ray disc.

I think BDRB is hanging because there are so many files in Monsters University to scan.

I contacted Slysoft and they sent me their latest beta of AnyDVD HD. I ripped the movie again to an iso using the beta they sent me. I got the same hang time while BDRB was scanning the source directory. I got the same error when it went to rebuild.

It ran through to "video encode complete", then the error occurred during the rebuild. I have added the last few lines of the log file below. (I couldn't paste the entire log, it was too long.)

(BTW, there are 4 alternate movie streams I could use under the "mode" tab. I've only ever had one movie that I needed to use that before (I think it was the Matrix). I used the stream the BDRB defaulted to.)

- [14:56:09] Reencoding: VID_01150, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:56:18] Video Encode complete
- [14:56:18] Processing: VID_01153 (132 of 132)
- [14:56:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01153]
- [14:56:25] Reencoding video [VID_01153]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 635 frames
- Bitrate: 32,820 Kbs
- [14:56:25] Reencoding: VID_01153, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:56:36] Video Encode complete
[14:56:36]PHASE ONE complete
[14:56:36]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:56:36] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: D:\TEMP\WORKFILES\00875.track_4113.264
[14:56:39] - Failed to REBUILD


Edit: I checked and that file does not exist. I guess it's the same issue ghasting reported with Step Brothers.

Nico8583
5th November 2013, 21:27
This has happed twice with Step Brothers.

---------------------
[11/01/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[05:46:59] Source: STEP_BROTHERS_00004
- Input BD size: 25.24 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:37:48.278]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[05:46:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [05:46:59] Processing: VID_00274 (1 of 12)
- [05:46:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00274]
- [05:55:35] Reencoding video [VID_00274]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,749 frames
- Bitrate: 27,992 Kbs
- [05:55:35] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:59:43] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:19:23] Video Encode complete
- [06:19:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [06:19:24] Processing: VID_00328 (2 of 12)
- [06:19:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
- [06:19:30] Reencoding video [VID_00328]
- [06:19:30] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [06:19:30] Processing: VID_00329 (3 of 12)
- [06:19:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00329]
- [06:20:55] Reencoding video [VID_00329]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,120 frames
- Bitrate: 26,962 Kbs
- [06:20:55] Reencoding: VID_00329, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:27:13] Reencoding: VID_00329, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:50:02] Video Encode complete
- [06:50:02] Processing: VID_00330 (4 of 12)
- [06:50:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00330]
- [06:50:20] Reencoding video [VID_00330]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,618 frames
- Bitrate: 28,664 Kbs
- [06:50:20] Reencoding: VID_00330, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:51:29] Reencoding: VID_00330, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:55:50] Video Encode complete
- [06:55:50] Processing: VID_00331 (5 of 12)
- [06:55:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00331]
- [06:58:31] Reencoding video [VID_00331]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 27,095 frames
- Bitrate: 27,010 Kbs
- [06:58:31] Reencoding: VID_00331, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:10:30] Reencoding: VID_00331, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:50:44] Video Encode complete
- [07:50:44] Processing: VID_00332 (6 of 12)
- [07:50:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00332]
- [07:51:09] Reencoding video [VID_00332]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,010 frames
- Bitrate: 27,518 Kbs
- [07:51:09] Reencoding: VID_00332, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:52:40] Reencoding: VID_00332, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:58:28] Video Encode complete
- [07:58:28] Processing: VID_00333 (7 of 12)
- [07:58:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00333]
- [08:00:11] Reencoding video [VID_00333]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 17,679 frames
- Bitrate: 27,020 Kbs
- [08:00:11] Reencoding: VID_00333, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:06:53] Reencoding: VID_00333, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:31:34] Video Encode complete
- [08:31:34] Processing: VID_00334 (8 of 12)
- [08:31:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00334]
- [08:31:56] Reencoding video [VID_00334]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,392 frames
- Bitrate: 27,058 Kbs
- [08:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00334, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:33:12] Reencoding: VID_00334, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:38:04] Video Encode complete
- [08:38:04] Processing: VID_00335 (9 of 12)
- [08:38:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00335]
- [08:38:32] Reencoding video [VID_00335]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,602 frames
- Bitrate: 27,704 Kbs
- [08:38:32] Reencoding: VID_00335, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:40:34] Reencoding: VID_00335, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:48:41] Video Encode complete
- [08:48:41] Processing: VID_00336 (10 of 12)
- [08:48:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00336]
- [08:49:12] Reencoding video [VID_00336]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,505 frames
- Bitrate: 27,096 Kbs
- [08:49:12] Reencoding: VID_00336, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:51:16] Reencoding: VID_00336, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:59:04] Video Encode complete
- [08:59:04] Processing: VID_00337 (11 of 12)
- [08:59:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00337]
- [09:02:44] Reencoding video [VID_00337]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 36,805 frames
- Bitrate: 27,669 Kbs
- [09:02:44] Reencoding: VID_00337, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:16:54] Reencoding: VID_00337, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:09:15] Video Encode complete
- [10:09:15] Processing: VID_00338 (12 of 12)
- [10:09:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00338]
- [10:10:28] Reencoding video [VID_00338]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,761 frames
- Bitrate: 28,103 Kbs
- [10:10:28] Reencoding: VID_00338, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:13:56] Reencoding: VID_00338, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:25:00] Video Encode complete
[10:25:00]PHASE ONE complete
[10:25:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:25:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: D:\DVD WORK\BLU RAY\RECODE\WORKFILES\00274.track_4113.264
[16:20:27] - Failed to REBUILD

Hi, I have the same problem with F&F 6. Encoding is OK but failed when it starts to rebuild... the track doesn't exist but there is several others .264 tracks in the folder...

RobertM
5th November 2013, 22:23
Oops,... I should probably have addressed this to ghasting...


Hi, I have the same problem with F&F 6. Encoding is OK but failed when it starts to rebuild... the track doesn't exist but there is several others .264 tracks in the folder...

Nico, it might be helpful if you could pin down what happens to those missing files.

For instance, could you run the process again, and after it completes the first task (Processing: VID_00274 (1 of 12)) look to see if "00274.track_4113.264" actually exists in the Workfiles folder. If it DOES exist at that point, keep looking in the Workfiles folder while the rest of the tasks are completed to see at what point it gets deleted.

Some extra detail like this might help narrow down what the cause might be.

Nico8583
5th November 2013, 22:29
I could give you some details tomorrow only... thanks !

worknstiff
6th November 2013, 01:15
I did Monsters University 2D a couple of days ago and had no problems. I just used Sly and did file copy to HD and then full BD25 backup while removing the previews and then replacing the Coming soon to Theaters & Coming soon to Blu-ray banner .m2ts with a couple of the 24kb dummy place holders from the BD Rebuilder files. It plays great and still had like a 14,000 bitrate. Thanks jdobb's for the latest release, I have been doing a lot of MKV's with HD audio and the forced subtitles are really working great.

Crocluvr92
6th November 2013, 08:52
Hello, on nearly all of my reencodes, I keep getting this error that says " h.264 encoder has stopped working " and it will not rebuild. This happens after extraction on all file and once it goes to start the encode, I get this error and have to shut down and it says reencode failed. I have over 2 TB free for the working folder and I have made sure my Inspect with BD Rebuilder is correct, I have uninstalled and reinstalled Haali Media Splitter, x264 Encoder, ffdshow and AviSynth and reinstalled all of them again per the versions need for the new beta of BD Rebuilder which is as of writing this is 0.44.17 and I even made the sure Uncompressed Audio is set for all supported and made sure wmv9 is used for VC-1 and MPEG2 is enabled and I even tried using libavcodec for VC-1 as well but to no avail, it always fails on movie I try to compress in any mode :( What am I doing wrong?

Nico8583
6th November 2013, 10:51
Hi,
Here is the log of F&F 6 :
----------------------
[11/05/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[12:51:45] Source: FAST_AND_FURIOUS_6_G51_00800
- Input BD size: 32,17 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:10:06.673]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Subtitle [16] is defaulted ON.
- Audio [3] set to default.
[12:51:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:51:45] Processing: VID_00023 (1 of 22)
- [12:51:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [12:57:36] Reencoding video [VID_00023]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 16*421 frames
- Bitrate: 21*913 Kbs
- [12:57:36] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:03:01] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:27:01] Video Encode complete
- [13:27:01] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (fra): Keeping original audio
- [13:27:01] Processing: VID_50407 (2 of 22)
- [13:27:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50407]
- [13:27:07] Reencoding video [VID_50407]
- [13:27:07] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:27:07] Processing: VID_50403 (3 of 22)
- [13:27:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50403]
- [13:28:24] Reencoding video [VID_50403]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 39*375 frames
- Bitrate: 22*203 Kbs
- [13:28:24] Reencoding: VID_50403, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:40:32] Reencoding: VID_50403, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:39:59] Video Encode complete
- [14:39:59] Processing: VID_50408 (4 of 22)
- [14:39:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50408]
- [14:40:05] Reencoding video [VID_50408]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 519 frames
- Bitrate: 21*731 Kbs
- [14:40:05] Reencoding: VID_50408, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:40:15] Reencoding: VID_50408, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:40:49] Video Encode complete
- [14:40:49] Processing: VID_50359 (5 of 22)
- [14:40:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50359]
- [14:41:08] Reencoding video [VID_50359]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 6*451 frames
- Bitrate: 21*748 Kbs
- [14:41:08] Reencoding: VID_50359, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:43:08] Reencoding: VID_50359, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:51:39] Video Encode complete
- [14:51:39] Processing: VID_50409 (6 of 22)
- [14:51:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50409]
- [14:51:45] Reencoding video [VID_50409]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1*346 frames
- Bitrate: 21*704 Kbs
- [14:51:45] Reencoding: VID_50409, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:52:11] Reencoding: VID_50409, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:53:50] Video Encode complete
- [14:53:50] Processing: VID_50406 (7 of 22)
- [14:53:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50406]
- [14:54:02] Reencoding video [VID_50406]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 6*433 frames
- Bitrate: 22*691 Kbs
- [14:54:02] Reencoding: VID_50406, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:56:03] Reencoding: VID_50406, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:07:16] Video Encode complete
- [15:07:16] Processing: VID_50410 (8 of 22)
- [15:07:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50410]
- [15:07:22] Reencoding video [VID_50410]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 482 frames
- Bitrate: 22*712 Kbs
- [15:07:22] Reencoding: VID_50410, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:07:31] Reencoding: VID_50410, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:08:19] Video Encode complete
- [15:08:19] Processing: VID_50360 (9 of 22)
- [15:08:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50360]
- [15:08:40] Reencoding video [VID_50360]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 8*126 frames
- Bitrate: 21*664 Kbs
- [15:08:40] Reencoding: VID_50360, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:11:08] Reencoding: VID_50360, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:22:23] Video Encode complete
- [15:22:23] Processing: VID_50411 (10 of 22)
- [15:22:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50411]
- [15:22:28] Reencoding video [VID_50411]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 664 frames
- Bitrate: 21*472 Kbs
- [15:22:28] Reencoding: VID_50411, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:22:40] Reencoding: VID_50411, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:23:36] Video Encode complete
- [15:23:36] Processing: VID_50361 (11 of 22)
- [15:23:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50361]
- [15:23:48] Reencoding video [VID_50361]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 4*651 frames
- Bitrate: 21*918 Kbs
- [15:23:48] Reencoding: VID_50361, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:25:13] Reencoding: VID_50361, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:31:52] Video Encode complete
- [15:31:53] Processing: VID_50412 (12 of 22)
- [15:31:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50412]
- [15:31:58] Reencoding video [VID_50412]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 635 frames
- Bitrate: 21*352 Kbs
- [15:31:58] Reencoding: VID_50412, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:32:10] Reencoding: VID_50412, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:32:56] Video Encode complete
- [15:32:56] Processing: VID_50362 (13 of 22)
- [15:32:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50362]
- [15:33:09] Reencoding video [VID_50362]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 4*939 frames
- Bitrate: 21*847 Kbs
- [15:33:09] Reencoding: VID_50362, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:34:36] Reencoding: VID_50362, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:42:18] Video Encode complete
- [15:42:18] Processing: VID_50379 (14 of 22)
- [15:42:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50379]
- [15:42:25] Reencoding video [VID_50379]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1*445 frames
- Bitrate: 22*353 Kbs
- [15:42:25] Reencoding: VID_50379, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:42:52] Reencoding: VID_50379, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:45:24] Video Encode complete
- [15:45:24] Processing: VID_50363 (15 of 22)
- [15:45:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50363]
- [15:46:47] Reencoding video [VID_50363]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 61*710 frames
- Bitrate: 22*281 Kbs
- [15:46:47] Reencoding: VID_50363, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:05:02] Reencoding: VID_50363, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:47:06] Video Encode complete
- [17:47:06] Processing: VID_50413 (16 of 22)
- [17:47:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50413]
- [17:47:12] Reencoding video [VID_50413]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 477 frames
- Bitrate: 22*862 Kbs
- [17:47:12] Reencoding: VID_50413, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:47:21] Reencoding: VID_50413, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:48:13] Video Encode complete
- [17:48:13] Processing: VID_50368 (17 of 22)
- [17:48:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50368]
- [17:48:20] Reencoding video [VID_50368]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1*325 frames
- Bitrate: 23*062 Kbs
- [17:48:20] Reencoding: VID_50368, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:48:45] Reencoding: VID_50368, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:51:19] Video Encode complete
- [17:51:19] Processing: VID_50381 (18 of 22)
- [17:51:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50381]
- [17:51:25] Reencoding video [VID_50381]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1*020 frames
- Bitrate: 22*803 Kbs
- [17:51:25] Reencoding: VID_50381, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:51:44] Reencoding: VID_50381, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:53:37] Video Encode complete
- [17:53:37] Processing: VID_50404 (19 of 22)
- [17:53:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50404]
- [17:53:44] Reencoding video [VID_50404]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1*572 frames
- Bitrate: 22*813 Kbs
- [17:53:44] Reencoding: VID_50404, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:54:13] Reencoding: VID_50404, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:57:13] Video Encode complete
- [17:57:13] Processing: VID_50382 (20 of 22)
- [17:57:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50382]
- [17:57:18] Reencoding video [VID_50382]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 601 frames
- Bitrate: 22*746 Kbs
- [17:57:18] Reencoding: VID_50382, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:57:29] Reencoding: VID_50382, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:58:38] Video Encode complete
- [17:58:38] Processing: VID_50405 (21 of 22)
- [17:58:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50405]
- [17:59:07] Reencoding video [VID_50405]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 15*645 frames
- Bitrate: 22*228 Kbs
- [17:59:07] Reencoding: VID_50405, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:03:58] Reencoding: VID_50405, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:28:46] Video Encode complete
- [18:28:46] Processing: VID_50414 (22 of 22)
- [18:28:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50414]
- [18:29:08] Reencoding video [VID_50414]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 12*570 frames
- Bitrate: 22*231 Kbs
- [18:29:08] Reencoding: VID_50414, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:32:49] Reencoding: VID_50414, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:51:50] Video Encode complete
[18:51:50]PHASE ONE complete
[18:51:50]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:51:50] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: F:\RIPS\WORKFILES\00023.track_4113.264
[18:51:53] - Failed to REBUILD

I'm starting test to see if first encode create .264 file...

Nico8583
6th November 2013, 11:06
OK, now the file 00023.track_4113.264 exists... I don't know why this bug appears :/

BZeeme
6th November 2013, 11:30
Same problem I had with Breaking Dawn Part 2:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1645331#post1645331

- [15:08:36] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: G:\TBD2 ABORT\WORKFILES\00504.track_4113.264
[15:08:40] - Failed to REBUILD

File 00504.track_4113.264 did exist but disappeared later.

Nico8583
6th November 2013, 11:44
Yes same problem, when video encodes the file exists but after encoding, it renames to VID_00023.AVS.264...

jdobbs
6th November 2013, 14:08
Hello, on nearly all of my reencodes, I keep getting this error that says " h.264 encoder has stopped working " and it will not rebuild. This happens after extraction on all file and once it goes to start the encode, I get this error and have to shut down and it says reencode failed. I have over 2 TB free for the working folder and I have made sure my Inspect with BD Rebuilder is correct, I have uninstalled and reinstalled Haali Media Splitter, x264 Encoder, ffdshow and AviSynth and reinstalled all of them again per the versions need for the new beta of BD Rebuilder which is as of writing this is 0.44.17 and I even made the sure Uncompressed Audio is set for all supported and made sure wmv9 is used for VC-1 and MPEG2 is enabled and I even tried using libavcodec for VC-1 as well but to no avail, it always fails on movie I try to compress in any mode :( What am I doing wrong?That's almost assured to be a heat related issue or some other system instability. If you are overclocked, slow it down a bit. If not, check your heatsink etc.

jdobbs
6th November 2013, 14:26
Yes same problem, when video encodes the file exists but after encoding, it renames to VID_00023.AVS.264... I do somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5 encodes a day, every day, and I've never seen this happen. I need an exact set of repeatable circumstances and your BD-RB settings (the INI file) or I'll never be able to fix it.

Darth_Emma
6th November 2013, 16:26
I tried Monsters U again by ripping the movie as files to the hard drive. Then I used BDRB to encode movie only (25BD). I got the exact same error with the same missing file. Here are the last few lines of the log file...

[21:39:30]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:39:30] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: D:\TEMP\WORKFILES\00875.track_4113.264
[21:39:33] - Failed to REBUILD

jdobbs
6th November 2013, 16:56
I tried Monsters U again by ripping the movie as files to the hard drive. Then I used BDRB to encode movie only (25BD). I got the exact same error with the same missing file. Here are the last few lines of the log file...

[21:39:30]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:39:30] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: D:\TEMP\WORKFILES\00875.track_4113.264
[21:39:33] - Failed to REBUILD Something is peculiar about your system -- have you tried running it without anti-virus software enabled? Something is removing that file -- and at least at this point I don't see how it is BD-RB.

Are you doing a full backup or movie-only? Any odd settings? It's hard to help with only pieces of the log...

Darth_Emma
6th November 2013, 17:52
Something is peculiar about your system -- have you tried running it without anti-virus software enabled? Something is removing that file -- and at least at this point I don't see how it is BD-RB.

Are you doing a full backup or movie-only? Any odd settings? It's hard to help with only pieces of the log...


I am doing movie only. No odd settings I'm aware of.

I will post the log in multiple parts (this site won't let me list the whole thing). I will try again without antivirus running.

Log part 1:

[11/05/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[20:19:44] Source: MONSTERS_UNIVERSITY_00800
- Input BD size: 25.17 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:47.720]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:19:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:19:44] Processing: VID_00875 (1 of 132)
- [20:19:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00875]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00875]
- Extracting A/V from M2TS [VID_00875]
- [20:47:25] Reencoding video [VID_00875]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,176 frames
- Bitrate: 27,331 Kbs
- [20:47:25] Reencoding: VID_00875, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:48:09] Video Encode complete
- [20:48:09] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [20:48:09] Processing: VID_00876 (2 of 132)
- [20:48:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00876]
- [20:48:14] Reencoding video [VID_00876]
- [20:48:14] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [20:48:14] Processing: VID_00879 (3 of 132)
- [20:48:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00879]
- [20:48:26] Reencoding video [VID_00879]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,972 frames
- Bitrate: 29,410 Kbs
- [20:48:26] Reencoding: VID_00879, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:48:55] Video Encode complete
- [20:48:55] Processing: VID_00880 (4 of 132)
- [20:48:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00880]
- [20:49:00] Reencoding video [VID_00880]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 340 frames
- Bitrate: 27,446 Kbs
- [20:49:00] Reencoding: VID_00880, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:49:04] Video Encode complete
- [20:49:04] Processing: VID_00882 (5 of 132)
- [20:49:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00882]
- [20:49:21] Reencoding video [VID_00882]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,389 frames
- Bitrate: 28,510 Kbs
- [20:49:21] Reencoding: VID_00882, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:50:08] Video Encode complete
- [20:50:08] Processing: VID_00883 (6 of 132)
- [20:50:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00883]
- [20:50:17] Reencoding video [VID_00883]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,154 frames
- Bitrate: 28,635 Kbs
- [20:50:17] Reencoding: VID_00883, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:50:31] Video Encode complete
- [20:50:31] Processing: VID_00886 (7 of 132)
- [20:50:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00886]
- [20:50:38] Reencoding video [VID_00886]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 701 frames
- Bitrate: 27,381 Kbs
- [20:50:38] Reencoding: VID_00886, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:50:48] Video Encode complete
- [20:50:48] Processing: VID_00887 (8 of 132)
- [20:50:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00887]
- [20:50:53] Reencoding video [VID_00887]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 518 frames
- Bitrate: 28,193 Kbs
- [20:50:54] Reencoding: VID_00887, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:51:01] Video Encode complete
- [20:51:01] Processing: VID_00890 (9 of 132)
- [20:51:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00890]
- [20:51:08] Reencoding video [VID_00890]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 846 frames
- Bitrate: 30,225 Kbs
- [20:51:08] Reencoding: VID_00890, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:51:21] Video Encode complete
- [20:51:21] Processing: VID_00891 (10 of 132)
- [20:51:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00891]
- [20:51:28] Reencoding video [VID_00891]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 791 frames
- Bitrate: 27,398 Kbs
- [20:51:28] Reencoding: VID_00891, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:51:39] Video Encode complete
- [20:51:39] Processing: VID_00894 (11 of 132)
- [20:51:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00894]
- [20:51:47] Reencoding video [VID_00894]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,153 frames
- Bitrate: 28,153 Kbs
- [20:51:47] Reencoding: VID_00894, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:52:04] Video Encode complete
- [20:52:04] Processing: VID_00895 (12 of 132)
- [20:52:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00895]
- [20:52:13] Reencoding video [VID_00895]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,294 frames
- Bitrate: 27,461 Kbs
- [20:52:13] Reencoding: VID_00895, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:52:31] Video Encode complete
- [20:52:31] Processing: VID_00898 (13 of 132)
- [20:52:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00898]
- [20:52:40] Reencoding video [VID_00898]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,256 frames
- Bitrate: 27,378 Kbs
- [20:52:40] Reencoding: VID_00898, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:52:57] Video Encode complete
- [20:52:57] Processing: VID_00899 (14 of 132)
- [20:52:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00899]
- [20:53:02] Reencoding video [VID_00899]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 353 frames
- Bitrate: 27,466 Kbs
- [20:53:02] Reencoding: VID_00899, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:53:07] Video Encode complete
- [20:53:07] Processing: VID_00902 (15 of 132)
- [20:53:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00902]
- [20:53:12] Reencoding video [VID_00902]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 215 frames
- Bitrate: 29,964 Kbs
- [20:53:12] Reencoding: VID_00902, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:53:15] Video Encode complete
- [20:53:15] Processing: VID_00903 (16 of 132)
- [20:53:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00903]
- [20:53:20] Reencoding video [VID_00903]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 339 frames
- Bitrate: 32,558 Kbs
- [20:53:20] Reencoding: VID_00903, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:53:25] Video Encode complete
- [20:53:25] Processing: VID_00906 (17 of 132)
- [20:53:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00906]
- [20:53:30] Reencoding video [VID_00906]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 508 frames
- Bitrate: 27,210 Kbs
- [20:53:31] Reencoding: VID_00906, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:53:37] Video Encode complete
- [20:53:37] Processing: VID_00907 (18 of 132)
- [20:53:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00907]
- [20:53:42] Reencoding video [VID_00907]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 355 frames
- Bitrate: 29,735 Kbs
- [20:53:42] Reencoding: VID_00907, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:53:48] Video Encode complete
- [20:53:48] Processing: VID_00910 (19 of 132)
- [20:53:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00910]
- [20:53:53] Reencoding video [VID_00910]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 495 frames
- Bitrate: 27,449 Kbs
- [20:53:53] Reencoding: VID_00910, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:54:00] Video Encode complete
- [20:54:00] Processing: VID_00911 (20 of 132)
- [20:54:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00911]
- [20:54:05] Reencoding video [VID_00911]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 339 frames
- Bitrate: 27,272 Kbs
- [20:54:05] Reencoding: VID_00911, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:54:10] Video Encode complete
- [20:54:10] Processing: VID_00914 (21 of 132)
- [20:54:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00914]
- [20:54:18] Reencoding video [VID_00914]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 784 frames
- Bitrate: 30,535 Kbs
- [20:54:18] Reencoding: VID_00914, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:54:29] Video Encode complete
- [20:54:29] Processing: VID_00915 (22 of 132)
- [20:54:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00915]
- [20:54:35] Reencoding video [VID_00915]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 365 frames
- Bitrate: 34,143 Kbs
- [20:54:35] Reencoding: VID_00915, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:54:41] Video Encode complete
- [20:54:41] Processing: VID_00918 (23 of 132)
- [20:54:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00918]
- [20:54:47] Reencoding video [VID_00918]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 670 frames
- Bitrate: 31,473 Kbs
- [20:54:47] Reencoding: VID_00918, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:54:57] Video Encode complete
- [20:54:57] Processing: VID_00919 (24 of 132)
- [20:54:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00919]
- [20:55:03] Reencoding video [VID_00919]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 395 frames
- Bitrate: 34,141 Kbs
- [20:55:03] Reencoding: VID_00919, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:55:09] Video Encode complete
- [20:55:09] Processing: VID_00922 (25 of 132)
- [20:55:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00922]
- [20:55:15] Reencoding video [VID_00922]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 532 frames
- Bitrate: 29,829 Kbs
- [20:55:15] Reencoding: VID_00922, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:55:23] Video Encode complete
- [20:55:23] Processing: VID_00923 (26 of 132)
- [20:55:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00923]
- [20:55:30] Reencoding video [VID_00923]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 975 frames
- Bitrate: 28,864 Kbs
- [20:55:30] Reencoding: VID_00923, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:55:44] Video Encode complete
- [20:55:44] Processing: VID_00926 (27 of 132)
- [20:55:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00926]
- [20:55:48] Reencoding video [VID_00926]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 133 frames
- Bitrate: 27,557 Kbs
- [20:55:48] Reencoding: VID_00926, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:55:50] Video Encode complete
- [20:55:50] Processing: VID_00927 (28 of 132)
- [20:55:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00927]
- [20:55:55] Reencoding video [VID_00927]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 372 frames
- Bitrate: 27,436 Kbs
- [20:55:55] Reencoding: VID_00927, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:56:01] Video Encode complete
- [20:56:01] Processing: VID_00929 (29 of 132)
- [20:56:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00929]
- [20:56:07] Reencoding video [VID_00929]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 742 frames
- Bitrate: 26,999 Kbs
- [20:56:07] Reencoding: VID_00929, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:56:18] Video Encode complete
- [20:56:18] Processing: VID_00930 (30 of 132)
- [20:56:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00930]
- [20:56:23] Reencoding video [VID_00930]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 435 frames
- Bitrate: 27,280 Kbs
- [20:56:23] Reencoding: VID_00930, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:56:29] Video Encode complete
- [20:56:29] Processing: VID_00933 (31 of 132)
- [20:56:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00933]
- [20:56:39] Reencoding video [VID_00933]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,779 frames
- Bitrate: 27,792 Kbs
- [20:56:39] Reencoding: VID_00933, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:57:03] Video Encode complete
- [20:57:03] Processing: VID_00934 (32 of 132)
- [20:57:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00934]
- [20:57:10] Reencoding video [VID_00934]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 602 frames
- Bitrate: 28,475 Kbs
- [20:57:10] Reencoding: VID_00934, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:57:19] Video Encode complete
- [20:57:19] Processing: VID_00936 (33 of 132)
- [20:57:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00936]
- [20:57:29] Reencoding video [VID_00936]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,770 frames
- Bitrate: 28,167 Kbs
- [20:57:29] Reencoding: VID_00936, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:57:55] Video Encode complete
- [20:57:55] Processing: VID_00937 (34 of 132)
- [20:57:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00937]
- [20:58:00] Reencoding video [VID_00937]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 338 frames
- Bitrate: 28,141 Kbs
- [20:58:00] Reencoding: VID_00937, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:58:05] Video Encode complete
- [20:58:05] Processing: VID_00939 (35 of 132)
- [20:58:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00939]
- [20:58:12] Reencoding video [VID_00939]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 893 frames
- Bitrate: 27,540 Kbs
- [20:58:12] Reencoding: VID_00939, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:58:25] Video Encode complete
- [20:58:25] Processing: VID_00940 (36 of 132)
- [20:58:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00940]
- [20:58:30] Reencoding video [VID_00940]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 357 frames
- Bitrate: 28,664 Kbs
- [20:58:30] Reencoding: VID_00940, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:58:35] Video Encode complete
- [20:58:35] Processing: VID_00943 (37 of 132)
- [20:58:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00943]
- [20:58:47] Reencoding video [VID_00943]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,211 frames
- Bitrate: 28,165 Kbs
- [20:58:47] Reencoding: VID_00943, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:59:19] Video Encode complete
- [20:59:19] Processing: VID_00944 (38 of 132)
- [20:59:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00944]
- [20:59:24] Reencoding video [VID_00944]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 317 frames
- Bitrate: 27,529 Kbs

Darth_Emma
6th November 2013, 17:52
Part 2:

- [20:59:24] Reencoding: VID_00944, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:59:29] Video Encode complete
- [20:59:29] Processing: VID_00946 (39 of 132)
- [20:59:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00946]
- [20:59:34] Reencoding video [VID_00946]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 336 frames
- Bitrate: 27,643 Kbs
- [20:59:34] Reencoding: VID_00946, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:59:39] Video Encode complete
- [20:59:39] Processing: VID_00949 (40 of 132)
- [20:59:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00949]
- [20:59:44] Reencoding video [VID_00949]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 386 frames
- Bitrate: 27,263 Kbs
- [20:59:44] Reencoding: VID_00949, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:59:50] Video Encode complete
- [20:59:50] Processing: VID_00950 (41 of 132)
- [20:59:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00950]
- [20:59:55] Reencoding video [VID_00950]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 352 frames
- Bitrate: 27,360 Kbs
- [20:59:55] Reencoding: VID_00950, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:00:00] Video Encode complete
- [21:00:00] Processing: VID_00952 (42 of 132)
- [21:00:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00952]
- [21:00:08] Reencoding video [VID_00952]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 912 frames
- Bitrate: 27,676 Kbs
- [21:00:08] Reencoding: VID_00952, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:00:20] Video Encode complete
- [21:00:20] Processing: VID_00953 (43 of 132)
- [21:00:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00953]
- [21:00:25] Reencoding video [VID_00953]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 370 frames
- Bitrate: 26,750 Kbs
- [21:00:25] Reencoding: VID_00953, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:00:31] Video Encode complete
- [21:00:31] Processing: VID_00956 (44 of 132)
- [21:00:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00956]
- [21:00:36] Reencoding video [VID_00956]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 291 frames
- Bitrate: 27,543 Kbs
- [21:00:36] Reencoding: VID_00956, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:00:39] Video Encode complete
- [21:00:39] Processing: VID_00957 (45 of 132)
- [21:00:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00957]
- [21:00:44] Reencoding video [VID_00957]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 304 frames
- Bitrate: 28,343 Kbs
- [21:00:44] Reencoding: VID_00957, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:00:49] Video Encode complete
- [21:00:49] Processing: VID_00959 (46 of 132)
- [21:00:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00959]
- [21:01:20] Reencoding video [VID_00959]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,039 frames
- Bitrate: 28,633 Kbs
- [21:01:20] Reencoding: VID_00959, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:02:57] Video Encode complete
- [21:02:57] Processing: VID_00961 (47 of 132)
- [21:02:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00961]
- [21:03:04] Reencoding video [VID_00961]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 908 frames
- Bitrate: 27,536 Kbs
- [21:03:04] Reencoding: VID_00961, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:03:16] Video Encode complete
- [21:03:16] Processing: VID_00969 (48 of 132)
- [21:03:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00969]
- [21:03:23] Reencoding video [VID_00969]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 625 frames
- Bitrate: 28,101 Kbs
- [21:03:23] Reencoding: VID_00969, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:03:32] Video Encode complete
- [21:03:32] Processing: VID_00971 (49 of 132)
- [21:03:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00971]
- [21:03:37] Reencoding video [VID_00971]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 366 frames
- Bitrate: 27,566 Kbs
- [21:03:37] Reencoding: VID_00971, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:03:42] Video Encode complete
- [21:03:42] Processing: VID_00972 (50 of 132)
- [21:03:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00972]
- [21:03:48] Reencoding video [VID_00972]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 673 frames
- Bitrate: 28,086 Kbs
- [21:03:48] Reencoding: VID_00972, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:03:58] Video Encode complete
- [21:03:58] Processing: VID_00974 (51 of 132)
- [21:03:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00974]
- [21:04:02] Reencoding video [VID_00974]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 124 frames
- Bitrate: 27,490 Kbs
- [21:04:02] Reencoding: VID_00974, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:04:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:04:04] Processing: VID_00975 (52 of 132)
- [21:04:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00975]
- [21:04:10] Reencoding video [VID_00975]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 590 frames
- Bitrate: 27,595 Kbs
- [21:04:10] Reencoding: VID_00975, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:04:18] Video Encode complete
- [21:04:18] Processing: VID_00977 (53 of 132)
- [21:04:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00977]
- [21:04:26] Reencoding video [VID_00977]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,110 frames
- Bitrate: 27,350 Kbs
- [21:04:26] Reencoding: VID_00977, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:04:41] Video Encode complete
- [21:04:41] Processing: VID_00978 (54 of 132)
- [21:04:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00978]
- [21:04:46] Reencoding video [VID_00978]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 301 frames
- Bitrate: 28,353 Kbs
- [21:04:46] Reencoding: VID_00978, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:04:50] Video Encode complete
- [21:04:51] Processing: VID_00980 (55 of 132)
- [21:04:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00980]
- [21:04:55] Reencoding video [VID_00980]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 164 frames
- Bitrate: 28,000 Kbs
- [21:04:55] Reencoding: VID_00980, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:04:57] Video Encode complete
- [21:04:57] Processing: VID_00981 (56 of 132)
- [21:04:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00981]
- [21:05:02] Reencoding video [VID_00981]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 276 frames
- Bitrate: 28,578 Kbs
- [21:05:02] Reencoding: VID_00981, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:05:06] Video Encode complete
- [21:05:06] Processing: VID_00983 (57 of 132)
- [21:05:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00983]
- [21:05:14] Reencoding video [VID_00983]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,007 frames
- Bitrate: 27,266 Kbs
- [21:05:14] Reencoding: VID_00983, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:05:27] Video Encode complete
- [21:05:27] Processing: VID_00984 (58 of 132)
- [21:05:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00984]
- [21:05:33] Reencoding video [VID_00984]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 456 frames
- Bitrate: 27,275 Kbs
- [21:05:33] Reencoding: VID_00984, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:05:38] Video Encode complete
- [21:05:38] Processing: VID_00987 (59 of 132)
- [21:05:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00987]
- [21:06:03] Reencoding video [VID_00987]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,493 frames
- Bitrate: 27,294 Kbs
- [21:06:03] Reencoding: VID_00987, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:07:29] Video Encode complete
- [21:07:29] Processing: VID_00988 (60 of 132)
- [21:07:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00988]
- [21:07:34] Reencoding video [VID_00988]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 303 frames
- Bitrate: 27,003 Kbs
- [21:07:34] Reencoding: VID_00988, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:07:38] Video Encode complete
- [21:07:38] Processing: VID_00990 (61 of 132)
- [21:07:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00990]
- [21:07:43] Reencoding video [VID_00990]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 280 frames
- Bitrate: 27,339 Kbs
- [21:07:43] Reencoding: VID_00990, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:07:48] Video Encode complete
- [21:07:48] Processing: VID_00991 (62 of 132)
- [21:07:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00991]
- [21:07:53] Reencoding video [VID_00991]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 438 frames
- Bitrate: 28,285 Kbs
- [21:07:53] Reencoding: VID_00991, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:00] Video Encode complete
- [21:08:00] Processing: VID_00994 (63 of 132)
- [21:08:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00994]
- [21:08:04] Reencoding video [VID_00994]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 170 frames
- Bitrate: 28,060 Kbs
- [21:08:04] Reencoding: VID_00994, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:07] Video Encode complete
- [21:08:07] Processing: VID_00995 (64 of 132)
- [21:08:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00995]
- [21:08:12] Reencoding video [VID_00995]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 332 frames
- Bitrate: 27,608 Kbs
- [21:08:12] Reencoding: VID_00995, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:17] Video Encode complete
- [21:08:17] Processing: VID_00998 (65 of 132)
- [21:08:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00998]
- [21:08:22] Reencoding video [VID_00998]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 313 frames
- Bitrate: 27,315 Kbs
- [21:08:22] Reencoding: VID_00998, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:26] Video Encode complete
- [21:08:26] Processing: VID_01000 (66 of 132)
- [21:08:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01000]
- [21:08:30] Reencoding video [VID_01000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 101 frames
- Bitrate: 27,421 Kbs
- [21:08:30] Reencoding: VID_01000, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:32] Video Encode complete
- [21:08:32] Processing: VID_01001 (67 of 132)
- [21:08:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01001]
- [21:08:38] Reencoding video [VID_01001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 490 frames
- Bitrate: 27,481 Kbs
- [21:08:38] Reencoding: VID_01001, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:45] Video Encode complete
- [21:08:45] Processing: VID_01005 (68 of 132)
- [21:08:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01005]
- [21:08:50] Reencoding video [VID_01005]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 370 frames
- Bitrate: 27,731 Kbs
- [21:08:50] Reencoding: VID_01005, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:56] Video Encode complete
- [21:08:56] Processing: VID_01007 (69 of 132)
- [21:08:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01007]
- [21:09:12] Reencoding video [VID_01007]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,679 frames
- Bitrate: 27,828 Kbs
- [21:09:12] Reencoding: VID_01007, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:10:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:04] Processing: VID_01008 (70 of 132)
- [21:10:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01008]
- [21:10:10] Reencoding video [VID_01008]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 328 frames
- Bitrate: 28,224 Kbs
- [21:10:10] Reencoding: VID_01008, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:10:14] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:14] Processing: VID_01010 (71 of 132)
- [21:10:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01010]
- [21:10:19] Reencoding video [VID_01010]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 123 frames
- Bitrate: 29,913 Kbs
- [21:10:19] Reencoding: VID_01010, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:10:21] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:21] Processing: VID_01011 (72 of 132)
- [21:10:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01011]
- [21:10:26] Reencoding video [VID_01011]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 268 frames
- Bitrate: 31,123 Kbs
- [21:10:26] Reencoding: VID_01011, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:10:30] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:30] Processing: VID_01013 (73 of 132)
- [21:10:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01013]
- [21:10:35] Reencoding video [VID_01013]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 247 frames
- Bitrate: 34,155 Kbs
- [21:10:35] Reencoding: VID_01013, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:10:39] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:39] Processing: VID_01014 (74 of 132)
- [21:10:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01014]
- [21:10:44] Reencoding video [VID_01014]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 280 frames
- Bitrate: 30,391 Kbs
- [21:10:44] Reencoding: VID_01014, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:10:49] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:49] Processing: VID_01016 (75 of 132)
- [21:10:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01016]
- [21:10:53] Reencoding video [VID_01016]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 85 frames
- Bitrate: 33,894 Kbs
- [21:10:53] Reencoding: VID_01016, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:10:54] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:54] Processing: VID_01017 (76 of 132)
- [21:10:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01017]
- [21:11:02] Reencoding video [VID_01017]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 893 frames
- Bitrate: 29,380 Kbs
- [21:11:02] Reencoding: VID_01017, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:11:15] Video Encode complete
- [21:11:15] Processing: VID_01022 (77 of 132)
- [21:11:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01022]
- [21:11:34] Reencoding video [VID_01022]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,320 frames
- Bitrate: 27,685 Kbs
- [21:11:34] Reencoding: VID_01022, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:12:34] Video Encode complete
- [21:12:34] Processing: VID_01024 (78 of 132)
- [21:12:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01024]
- [21:12:39] Reencoding video [VID_01024]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 271 frames
- Bitrate: 28,813 Kbs
- [21:12:39] Reencoding: VID_01024, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:12:43] Video Encode complete
- [21:12:43] Processing: VID_01027 (79 of 132)
- [21:12:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01027]
- [21:13:00] Reencoding video [VID_01027]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,556 frames
- Bitrate: 27,646 Kbs
- [21:13:00] Reencoding: VID_01027, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:13:51] Video Encode complete
- [21:13:52] Processing: VID_01028 (80 of 132)
- [21:13:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01028]
- [21:13:56] Reencoding video [VID_01028]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 319 frames
- Bitrate: 29,125 Kbs
- [21:13:57] Reencoding: VID_01028, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:14:01] Video Encode complete
- [21:14:01] Processing: VID_01031 (81 of 132)
- [21:14:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01031]
- [21:14:19] Reencoding video [VID_01031]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,536 frames
- Bitrate: 30,929 Kbs
- [21:14:19] Reencoding: VID_01031, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:15:13] Video Encode complete
- [21:15:13] Processing: VID_01032 (82 of 132)
- [21:15:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01032]
- [21:15:29] Reencoding video [VID_01032]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,064 frames
- Bitrate: 28,892 Kbs
- [21:15:29] Reencoding: VID_01032, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:16:12] Video Encode complete
- [21:16:12] Processing: VID_01043 (83 of 132)
- [21:16:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01043]
- [21:16:17] Reencoding video [VID_01043]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 152 frames
- Bitrate: 27,234 Kbs
- [21:16:17] Reencoding: VID_01043, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:16:19] Video Encode complete
- [21:16:19] Processing: VID_01044 (84 of 132)
- [21:16:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01044]
- [21:16:27] Reencoding video [VID_01044]

Darth_Emma
6th November 2013, 17:56
Part 3:

- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,009 frames
- Bitrate: 27,426 Kbs
- [21:16:27] Reencoding: VID_01044, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:16:41] Video Encode complete
- [21:16:41] Processing: VID_01047 (85 of 132)
- [21:16:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01047]
- [21:16:48] Reencoding video [VID_01047]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 772 frames
- Bitrate: 27,516 Kbs
- [21:16:48] Reencoding: VID_01047, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:16:58] Video Encode complete
- [21:16:58] Processing: VID_01048 (86 of 132)
- [21:16:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01048]
- [21:17:03] Reencoding video [VID_01048]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 229 frames
- Bitrate: 27,246 Kbs
- [21:17:03] Reencoding: VID_01048, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:17:06] Video Encode complete
- [21:17:06] Processing: VID_01051 (87 of 132)
- [21:17:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01051]
- [21:17:14] Reencoding video [VID_01051]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 948 frames
- Bitrate: 28,655 Kbs
- [21:17:14] Reencoding: VID_01051, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:17:27] Video Encode complete
- [21:17:27] Processing: VID_01052 (88 of 132)
- [21:17:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01052]
- [21:17:49] Reencoding video [VID_01052]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,541 frames
- Bitrate: 29,357 Kbs
- [21:17:49] Reencoding: VID_01052, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:18:54] Video Encode complete
- [21:18:54] Processing: VID_01055 (89 of 132)
- [21:18:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01055]
- [21:18:59] Reencoding video [VID_01055]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 249 frames
- Bitrate: 28,068 Kbs
- [21:18:59] Reencoding: VID_01055, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:19:03] Video Encode complete
- [21:19:03] Processing: VID_01058 (90 of 132)
- [21:19:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01058]
- [21:19:14] Reencoding video [VID_01058]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,965 frames
- Bitrate: 27,887 Kbs
- [21:19:14] Reencoding: VID_01058, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:19:42] Video Encode complete
- [21:19:42] Processing: VID_01059 (91 of 132)
- [21:19:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01059]
- [21:19:47] Reencoding video [VID_01059]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 295 frames
- Bitrate: 28,578 Kbs
- [21:19:47] Reencoding: VID_01059, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:19:52] Video Encode complete
- [21:19:52] Processing: VID_01062 (92 of 132)
- [21:19:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01062]
- [21:20:02] Reencoding video [VID_01062]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,847 frames
- Bitrate: 28,612 Kbs
- [21:20:02] Reencoding: VID_01062, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:20:28] Video Encode complete
- [21:20:28] Processing: VID_01063 (93 of 132)
- [21:20:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01063]
- [21:20:33] Reencoding video [VID_01063]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 268 frames
- Bitrate: 28,514 Kbs
- [21:20:33] Reencoding: VID_01063, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:20:37] Video Encode complete
- [21:20:37] Processing: VID_01066 (94 of 132)
- [21:20:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01066]
- [21:20:44] Reencoding video [VID_01066]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 680 frames
- Bitrate: 28,361 Kbs
- [21:20:44] Reencoding: VID_01066, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:20:54] Video Encode complete
- [21:20:54] Processing: VID_01067 (95 of 132)
- [21:20:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01067]
- [21:20:59] Reencoding video [VID_01067]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 427 frames
- Bitrate: 27,492 Kbs
- [21:20:59] Reencoding: VID_01067, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:21:06] Video Encode complete
- [21:21:06] Processing: VID_01069 (96 of 132)
- [21:21:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01069]
- [21:21:12] Reencoding video [VID_01069]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 705 frames
- Bitrate: 27,338 Kbs
- [21:21:12] Reencoding: VID_01069, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:21:22] Video Encode complete
- [21:21:22] Processing: VID_01070 (97 of 132)
- [21:21:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01070]
- [21:21:27] Reencoding video [VID_01070]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 239 frames
- Bitrate: 27,314 Kbs
- [21:21:27] Reencoding: VID_01070, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:21:30] Video Encode complete
- [21:21:30] Processing: VID_01072 (98 of 132)
- [21:21:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01072]
- [21:21:35] Reencoding video [VID_01072]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 299 frames
- Bitrate: 27,342 Kbs
- [21:21:35] Reencoding: VID_01072, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:21:39] Video Encode complete
- [21:21:39] Processing: VID_01073 (99 of 132)
- [21:21:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01073]
- [21:21:45] Reencoding video [VID_01073]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 548 frames
- Bitrate: 27,171 Kbs
- [21:21:45] Reencoding: VID_01073, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:21:53] Video Encode complete
- [21:21:53] Processing: VID_01075 (100 of 132)
- [21:21:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01075]
- [21:22:06] Reencoding video [VID_01075]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,263 frames
- Bitrate: 29,402 Kbs
- [21:22:06] Reencoding: VID_01075, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:22:37] Video Encode complete
- [21:22:38] Processing: VID_01076 (101 of 132)
- [21:22:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01076]
- [21:22:44] Reencoding video [VID_01076]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 607 frames
- Bitrate: 30,228 Kbs
- [21:22:44] Reencoding: VID_01076, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:22:53] Video Encode complete
- [21:22:53] Processing: VID_01078 (102 of 132)
- [21:22:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01078]
- [21:23:00] Reencoding video [VID_01078]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 800 frames
- Bitrate: 27,527 Kbs
- [21:23:00] Reencoding: VID_01078, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:23:11] Video Encode complete
- [21:23:11] Processing: VID_01079 (103 of 132)
- [21:23:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01079]
- [21:23:16] Reencoding video [VID_01079]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 333 frames
- Bitrate: 29,339 Kbs
- [21:23:16] Reencoding: VID_01079, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:23:21] Video Encode complete
- [21:23:21] Processing: VID_01081 (104 of 132)
- [21:23:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01081]
- [21:23:27] Reencoding video [VID_01081]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 352 frames
- Bitrate: 31,761 Kbs
- [21:23:27] Reencoding: VID_01081, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:23:33] Video Encode complete
- [21:23:33] Processing: VID_01084 (105 of 132)
- [21:23:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01084]
- [21:23:40] Reencoding video [VID_01084]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 927 frames
- Bitrate: 31,100 Kbs
- [21:23:40] Reencoding: VID_01084, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:23:54] Video Encode complete
- [21:23:54] Processing: VID_01085 (106 of 132)
- [21:23:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01085]
- [21:24:00] Reencoding video [VID_01085]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 315 frames
- Bitrate: 29,216 Kbs
- [21:24:00] Reencoding: VID_01085, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:24:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:24:04] Processing: VID_01087 (107 of 132)
- [21:24:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01087]
- [21:24:09] Reencoding video [VID_01087]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 160 frames
- Bitrate: 35,000 Kbs
- [21:24:09] Reencoding: VID_01087, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:24:12] Video Encode complete
- [21:24:12] Processing: VID_01088 (108 of 132)
- [21:24:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01088]
- [21:24:18] Reencoding video [VID_01088]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 452 frames
- Bitrate: 30,335 Kbs
- [21:24:18] Reencoding: VID_01088, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:24:25] Video Encode complete
- [21:24:25] Processing: VID_01090 (109 of 132)
- [21:24:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01090]
- [21:24:30] Reencoding video [VID_01090]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 274 frames
- Bitrate: 34,739 Kbs
- [21:24:30] Reencoding: VID_01090, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:24:35] Video Encode complete
- [21:24:35] Processing: VID_01091 (110 of 132)
- [21:24:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01091]
- [21:24:40] Reencoding video [VID_01091]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 367 frames
- Bitrate: 31,195 Kbs
- [21:24:40] Reencoding: VID_01091, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:24:46] Video Encode complete
- [21:24:46] Processing: VID_01093 (111 of 132)
- [21:24:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01093]
- [21:24:51] Reencoding video [VID_01093]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 343 frames
- Bitrate: 30,931 Kbs
- [21:24:52] Reencoding: VID_01093, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:24:57] Video Encode complete
- [21:24:57] Processing: VID_01096 (112 of 132)
- [21:24:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01096]
- [21:25:03] Reencoding video [VID_01096]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 571 frames
- Bitrate: 31,419 Kbs
- [21:25:03] Reencoding: VID_01096, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:25:12] Video Encode complete
- [21:25:12] Processing: VID_01097 (113 of 132)
- [21:25:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01097]
- [21:25:18] Reencoding video [VID_01097]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 457 frames
- Bitrate: 27,255 Kbs
- [21:25:18] Reencoding: VID_01097, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:25:25] Video Encode complete
- [21:25:25] Processing: VID_01099 (114 of 132)
- [21:25:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01099]
- [21:25:34] Reencoding video [VID_01099]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,370 frames
- Bitrate: 29,350 Kbs
- [21:25:34] Reencoding: VID_01099, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:25:54] Video Encode complete
- [21:25:54] Processing: VID_01100 (115 of 132)
- [21:25:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01100]
- [21:25:59] Reencoding video [VID_01100]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 326 frames
- Bitrate: 29,882 Kbs

Darth_Emma
6th November 2013, 17:56
Part 4:

- [21:25:59] Reencoding: VID_01100, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:26:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:26:04] Processing: VID_01102 (116 of 132)
- [21:26:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01102]
- [21:26:09] Reencoding video [VID_01102]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 338 frames
- Bitrate: 28,161 Kbs
- [21:26:09] Reencoding: VID_01102, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:26:14] Video Encode complete
- [21:26:14] Processing: VID_01103 (117 of 132)
- [21:26:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01103]
- [21:26:20] Reencoding video [VID_01103]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 335 frames
- Bitrate: 29,815 Kbs
- [21:26:20] Reencoding: VID_01103, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:26:25] Video Encode complete
- [21:26:25] Processing: VID_01105 (118 of 132)
- [21:26:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01105]
- [21:26:38] Reencoding video [VID_01105]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,408 frames
- Bitrate: 28,680 Kbs
- [21:26:38] Reencoding: VID_01105, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:27:12] Video Encode complete
- [21:27:12] Processing: VID_01106 (119 of 132)
- [21:27:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01106]
- [21:27:17] Reencoding video [VID_01106]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 352 frames
- Bitrate: 27,864 Kbs
- [21:27:17] Reencoding: VID_01106, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:27:22] Video Encode complete
- [21:27:22] Processing: VID_01109 (120 of 132)
- [21:27:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01109]
- [21:27:34] Reencoding video [VID_01109]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,102 frames
- Bitrate: 27,161 Kbs
- [21:27:34] Reencoding: VID_01109, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:28:03] Video Encode complete
- [21:28:03] Processing: VID_01112 (121 of 132)
- [21:28:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01112]
- [21:28:21] Reencoding video [VID_01112]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,939 frames
- Bitrate: 27,876 Kbs
- [21:28:21] Reencoding: VID_01112, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:29:16] Video Encode complete
- [21:29:16] Processing: VID_01113 (122 of 132)
- [21:29:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01113]
- [21:29:21] Reencoding video [VID_01113]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 336 frames
- Bitrate: 27,444 Kbs
- [21:29:21] Reencoding: VID_01113, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:29:26] Video Encode complete
- [21:29:26] Processing: VID_01116 (123 of 132)
- [21:29:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01116]
- [21:30:18] Reencoding video [VID_01116]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,967 frames
- Bitrate: 28,214 Kbs
- [21:30:18] Reencoding: VID_01116, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:33:17] Video Encode complete
- [21:33:17] Processing: VID_01118 (124 of 132)
- [21:33:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01118]
- [21:33:22] Reencoding video [VID_01118]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 447 frames
- Bitrate: 27,243 Kbs
- [21:33:22] Reencoding: VID_01118, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:33:29] Video Encode complete
- [21:33:29] Processing: VID_01121 (125 of 132)
- [21:33:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01121]
- [21:33:34] Reencoding video [VID_01121]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 290 frames
- Bitrate: 27,313 Kbs
- [21:33:34] Reencoding: VID_01121, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:33:38] Video Encode complete
- [21:33:38] Processing: VID_01122 (126 of 132)
- [21:33:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01122]
- [21:33:48] Reencoding video [VID_01122]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,654 frames
- Bitrate: 27,851 Kbs
- [21:33:48] Reencoding: VID_01122, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:34:10] Video Encode complete
- [21:34:10] Processing: VID_01133 (127 of 132)
- [21:34:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01133]
- [21:34:21] Reencoding video [VID_01133]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,743 frames
- Bitrate: 27,345 Kbs
- [21:34:21] Reencoding: VID_01133, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:34:44] Video Encode complete
- [21:34:45] Processing: VID_01134 (128 of 132)
- [21:34:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01134]
- [21:34:52] Reencoding video [VID_01134]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- Bitrate: 26,360 Kbs
- [21:34:52] Reencoding: VID_01134, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:35:05] Video Encode complete
- [21:35:05] Processing: VID_01137 (129 of 132)
- [21:35:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01137]
- [21:35:10] Reencoding video [VID_01137]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 98 frames
- Bitrate: 33,695 Kbs
- [21:35:10] Reencoding: VID_01137, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:35:11] Video Encode complete
- [21:35:11] Processing: VID_01138 (130 of 132)
- [21:35:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01138]
- [21:36:02] Reencoding video [VID_01138]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,717 frames
- Bitrate: 25,371 Kbs
- [21:36:02] Reencoding: VID_01138, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:38:57] Video Encode complete
- [21:38:57] Processing: VID_01150 (131 of 132)
- [21:38:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01150]
- [21:39:03] Reencoding video [VID_01150]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 745 frames
- Bitrate: 24,058 Kbs
- [21:39:03] Reencoding: VID_01150, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:39:12] Video Encode complete
- [21:39:12] Processing: VID_01153 (132 of 132)
- [21:39:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01153]
- [21:39:19] Reencoding video [VID_01153]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 635 frames
- Bitrate: 32,820 Kbs
- [21:39:20] Reencoding: VID_01153, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:39:30] Video Encode complete
[21:39:30]PHASE ONE complete
[21:39:30]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:39:30] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: D:\TEMP\WORKFILES\00875.track_4113.264
[21:39:33] - Failed to REBUILD

jdobbs
6th November 2013, 18:31
@Darth_Emma

Do you have FORCE_ENCODE on? On my system all 132 parts of the movie add up to only 18.6GB -- and no encode is required.

[Edit] I think I see... you're keeping the HD audio, which must put it over the target output size. Can you post your config/INI file contents so I can make sure I'm using the same settings?

Darth_Emma
6th November 2013, 19:33
@Darth_Emma

Do you have FORCE_ENCODE on? On my system all 132 parts of the movie add up to only 18.6GB -- and no encode is required.

[Edit] I think I see... you're keeping the HD audio, which must put it over the target output size. Can you post your config/INI file contents so I can make sure I'm using the same settings?

I turned off MSSE/Defender antivirus and tried again (only thing I'm running for antivirus). Same error.

Can you tell me where the config.ini file is? I can't seem to locate it on my system. (Sorry to sound like such a noob.)

What audio setting should I select rather than the HD audio? I'd be happy to use another audio setting to get around this issue.

I really appreciate your help.

g00g
6th November 2013, 19:34
Did auf Movie-Only backup of a DVD with DVD Rebuilder and importet this backup with BD Rebuilder. After import finished just the primary audio stream (in my case english) was in sync. Other stream lost sync after about 50 minutes. In the DVD backup all audio streams are in sync over the whole movie. Actually this is the first time I recognized this kind of error.

As my backup order is always the same (first Movie Only backup von DVD-RB and afterwards Import to BD-RB) I checked all previous done Imports to BD-RB and all backups are OK but the latest ones (starts with BD-RB Version 0.44.17).

RobertM
6th November 2013, 19:49
Can you tell me where the config.ini file is? I can't seem to locate it on my system. (Sorry to sound like such a noob.)

Look in the same folder as BDRB.exe for the BDREBUILDER.INI file. This file holds your config settings for BDRB.

What audio setting should I select rather than the HD audio? I'd be happy to use another audio setting to get around this issue.

On the setup screen in BDRB de-select the "Keep HD audio" option.

jdobbs
6th November 2013, 21:35
I turned off MSSE/Defender antivirus and tried again (only thing I'm running for antivirus). Same error.

Can you tell me where the config.ini file is? I can't seem to locate it on my system. (Sorry to sound like such a noob.)

What audio setting should I select rather than the HD audio? I'd be happy to use another audio setting to get around this issue.

I really appreciate your help. It's in the installation path of BD-RB and it's called BDREBUILDER.INI.

But you can get to it by selecting "View/Edit Config File" from the FILE menu in BD-RB. Just cut-and-paste the contents into a post here.

Nico8583
6th November 2013, 22:01
Here is my config file :
[Options]
VERSION=0.44.0.17
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=fra;fre;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=fra;fre;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=47000
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\ORIGINAUX\FAST_AND_FURIOUS_6_G51\
WORKING_PATH=F:\RIPS\

I have made Star Trek this afternoon and no problem but it was not multiple parts, so perhaps is multiple parts movies ?
Fast & Furious 6 (French Blu ray) contains short and long version, with parts shared between the 2 versions for information. I select playlist 00800 for short version, keep DTS audio and french subtitle and I backup movie only.

Darth_Emma
6th November 2013, 22:19
It's in the installation path of BD-RB and it's called BDREBUILDER.INI.

But you can get to it by selecting "View/Edit Config File" from the FILE menu in BD-RB. Just cut-and-paste the contents into a post here.

Here it is. I very much appreciate your help.

[Options]
VERSION=0.44.0.17
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=D:\TEMP\
SOURCE_PATH=D:\MY MOVIES\TEMP\MONSTERS_UNIVERSITY\

Darth_Emma
6th November 2013, 22:39
On the setup screen in BDRB de-select the "Keep HD audio" option.


I do not have that check box on my BDRB set up screen.

Under Audio encoding I have 5 options:
"Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-Ray only)"
"Do not reencode AC3 (Blu-Ray only)"
"Use 448 Kbs for AC3 encoding"
"Use 192 Kbs, 2 ch for AC3 encoding"
"Keep HD Audio for BD25/Alternate Intact"

The first 2 are checked.

AmigaFuture
6th November 2013, 23:22
I do not have that check box on my BDRB set up screen.

Under Audio encoding I have 5 options:
"Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-Ray only)"
"Do not reencode AC3 (Blu-Ray only)"
"Use 448 Kbs for AC3 encoding"
"Use 192 Kbs, 2 ch for AC3 encoding"
"Keep HD Audio for BD25/Alternate Intact"

The first 2 are checked.

Check that. :)

Darth_Emma
7th November 2013, 01:33
Check that. :)

I believe the idea is to not use the HD audio to stop the BDRB from reencoding the video.

AmigaFuture
7th November 2013, 03:40
I believe the idea is to not use the HD audio to stop the BDRB from reencoding the video.

Under Audio encoding I have 5 options:
"Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-Ray only)"
"Do not reencode AC3 (Blu-Ray only)"
"Use 448 Kbs for AC3 encoding"
"Use 192 Kbs, 2 ch for AC3 encoding"
"Keep HD Audio for BD25/Alternate Intact"

The first 2 are checked.

Keep HD isn't checked and Uncheck your first Check. Try that. :)

RobertM
7th November 2013, 06:12
I believe the idea is to not use the HD audio to stop the BDRB from reencoding the video.

I have all 5 of those audio options unchecked.

The practical reason to un-check the "HD Audio" option is that it reduces the size of the audio tracks (by down-converting to AC3 640), without making any difference whatsoever to what you actually hear. Some people will argue about this, but all the objective testing says there is no difference at all. If you think you have golden ears, and are willing to spend big bucks on digital patch cords and huge speaker cables, then you might want to keep the HD audio tracks. But you'll likely be degrading the video quality by doing so, and this is more likely to be noticeable.

Crocluvr92
7th November 2013, 08:37
That's almost assured to be a heat related issue or some other system instability. If you are overclocked, slow it down a bit. If not, check your heatsink etc.

I checked my heatsink and downloaded CoreAVC and yet I still get the error! This never used to happen even with the new beta. Here is my log


[11/07/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[00:57:45] Source: LAST_SAMURAI
- Input BD size: 29.19 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:39:20.710]
- Target BD size: 23.31 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[00:57:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:57:47] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 16)
- [00:57:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [01:33:51] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 221,816 frames
- Bitrate: 14,440 Kbs
- [01:33:52] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[01:34:17] - Failed video encode, aborted

jdobbs
7th November 2013, 15:09
Well, before you posted your config I went ahead and did "Monsters University". It ran without issue. I'm not sure what to say. I'll load up your config and run it again, but I suspect it will be the same. I still suspect your anti-virus software. Files don't just "disappear" -- and about the only software (other than a virus) that removes files without your permission is anti-virus packages. Sometimes when you think they are disabled -- they really aren't. Here's the important parts of my log:
----------------------
[11/06/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.02 (beta)
[13:27:28] Source: MONSTERS_UNIVERSITY_00800
- Input BD size: 25.17 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:47.720]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:27:29] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:27:29] Processing: VID_00875 (1 of 132)
- [13:27:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00875]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00875]
- Extracting A/V from M2TS [VID_00875]
- [13:56:37] Reencoding video [VID_00875]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,176 frames
- Bitrate: 21,297 Kbs
- [13:56:37] Reencoding: VID_00875, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:57:17] Reencoding: VID_00875, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:59:32] Video Encode complete
- [13:59:32] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:59:32] Processing: VID_00876 (2 of 132)
- [13:59:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00876]
- [13:59:40] Reencoding video [VID_00876]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 395 frames
- Bitrate: 21,344 Kbs
- [13:59:40] Reencoding: VID_00876, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:59:46] Reencoding: VID_00876, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:00:03] Video Encode complete
...
- [16:17:50] Reencoding video [VID_01138]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,717 frames
- Bitrate: 19,769 Kbs
- [16:17:50] Reencoding: VID_01138, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:20:25] Reencoding: VID_01138, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:28:39] Video Encode complete
- [16:28:39] Processing: VID_01150 (131 of 132)
- [16:28:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01150]
- [16:28:48] Reencoding video [VID_01150]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 745 frames
- Bitrate: 18,747 Kbs
- [16:28:48] Reencoding: VID_01150, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:28:57] Reencoding: VID_01150, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:29:25] Video Encode complete
- [16:29:25] Processing: VID_01153 (132 of 132)
- [16:29:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01153]
- [16:29:32] Reencoding video [VID_01153]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 635 frames
- Bitrate: 25,574 Kbs
- [16:29:32] Reencoding: VID_01153, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:29:40] Reencoding: VID_01153, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:30:10] Video Encode complete
[16:30:10]PHASE ONE complete
[16:30:10]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:30:10] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:36:18] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[16:36:18] JOB: MONSTERS_UNIVERSITY finished.

jdobbs
7th November 2013, 15:12
I believe the idea is to not use the HD audio to stop the BDRB from reencoding the video.I just wanted to make sure I was replicating your settings... and if you didn't have some flag set set that forced encoding (and you did) no reencoding would have been done.

Capsbackup
7th November 2013, 15:43
I checked my heatsink and downloaded CoreAVC and yet I still get the error! This never used to happen even with the new beta. Here is my log


It has always been said to NOT have any other codec packs installed, only the ones on the first page of this thread! :(

jdobbs
7th November 2013, 16:19
I tried Monsters U again by ripping the movie as files to the hard drive. Then I used BDRB to encode movie only (25BD). I got the exact same error with the same missing file. Here are the last few lines of the log file...

[21:39:30]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:39:30] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: D:\TEMP\WORKFILES\00875.track_4113.264
[21:39:33] - Failed to REBUILDI just noticed something here. The that seems to be the wrong filename for a typical remux... I'll see what happens when the job with your settings completes.

[Edit] Well... it's definitely something that is related to your INI settings. I was able to repeat it. That's good -- if I can repeat it then I can fix it.

Darth_Emma
7th November 2013, 16:25
I just wanted to make sure I was replicating your settings... and if you didn't have some flag set set that forced encoding (and you did) no reencoding would have been done.

Thanks for all your help. So, I need to know exactly what to do here. Because I'm not 100% sure where I have set the flag to force encoding. (Again, my apologies for being a noob at this.)

Do I need to uncheck all 5 of the options under "Audio encoding"? I was running BD-RB with the first 2 audio options checked assuming it would produce better audio quality... I have a 7.1 set up.

I went back and reread the FAQ and I think I should have unchecked all of them. I just want to confirm that.

BTW, I'm off to donate to the BD-RB Paypal to get the Pro version. You have been awesome and I really appreciate your help.

jdobbs
7th November 2013, 16:55
Thanks for all your help. So, I need to know exactly what to do here. Because I'm not 100% sure where I have set the flag to force encoding. (Again, my apologies for being a noob at this.)

Do I need to uncheck all 5 of the options under "Audio encoding"? I was running BD-RB with the first 2 audio options checked assuming it would produce better audio quality... I have a 7.1 set up.

I went back and reread the FAQ and I think I should have unchecked all of them. I just want to confirm that.

BTW, I'm off to donate to the BD-RB Paypal to get the Pro version. You have been awesome and I really appreciate your help.You don't have to do anything. It's obviously a bug in BD-RB and I'm working on it.

I'll be appreciative of any donation -- but remember, there is no "Pro" version of BD-RB. It is currently based entirely on voluntary donations.

Darth_Emma
7th November 2013, 17:03
I just noticed something here. The that seems to be the wrong filename for a typical remux... I'll see what happens when the job with your settings completes.

[Edit] Well... it's definitely something that is related to your INI settings. I was able to repeat it. That's good -- if I can repeat it then I can fix it.

You don't have to do anything. It's obviously a bug in BD-RB and I'm working on it.


Thank you.

jdobbs
7th November 2013, 17:30
I checked my heatsink and downloaded CoreAVC and yet I still get the error! This never used to happen even with the new beta.I don't get the connection to CoreAVC at all...

HWK
7th November 2013, 17:42
My guess would be user checked heatsink and still it didn't work. Then OP probably thought let me try with coreavc since it can decode h.264 files as well.

HWK
7th November 2013, 17:44
I checked my heatsink and downloaded CoreAVC and yet I still get the error! This never used to happen even with the new beta. Here is my log


[11/07/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[00:57:45] Source: LAST_SAMURAI
- Input BD size: 29.19 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:39:20.710]
- Target BD size: 23.31 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[00:57:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:57:47] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 16)
- [00:57:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [01:33:51] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 221,816 frames
- Bitrate: 14,440 Kbs
- [01:33:52] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[01:34:17] - Failed video encode, aborted

Uninstall all the codecs pack including ffdshow and Haali Matroska Splitter and then reinstall only ffdshow and Haali Matroska Splitter from forum first page.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1227473#post1227473 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1227473#post1227473)

Nico8583
7th November 2013, 18:34
For me, file searched on second phase exists during the encoding process and it seems to be renamed after encoding finish...
And an other thing, all .stats files are auto deleted but the last .stats file isn't deleted. And this file is encoded but original .264 is also present in the directory and the size of original .264 is lower than .264 encoded...

jdobbs
8th November 2013, 18:52
The 3D discussion had pulled the thread way off topic -- so I've moved it to a thread of its own.

jdobbs
8th November 2013, 19:00
@Darth_Emma and others

I found the cause of the "file not found" error during rebuild and have fixed it for the next release.

mparade
8th November 2013, 20:01
I met with the following problem in BD-RB:

----------------------
[11.08.13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[18:20:40] Source: JACK_THE_GIANT_SLAYER_00100
- Input BD size: 27,09 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:08.883]
- Target BD size: 7,32 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:20:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:20:40] Processing: VID_00085 (1 of 1)
- [18:20:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00085]
- [18:29:38] Reencoding video [VID_00085]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 164*209 frames
- Bitrate: 6*769 Kbs
- [18:29:38] Reencoding: VID_00085, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:54:11] Reencoding: VID_00085, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:18:57] Video Encode complete
- [19:18:57] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [19:18:57] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [19:18:57] ReencodeAudio() 00070 1801
[19:20:14] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

I do not really understand because I marked the following options in the setup window which can affect on audio reencoding:

- Do not convert DTS to AC3;
- Do not reencode AC3;
- Keep HD Audio for BD25;

The other two options were unmarked.

Please advise.

Nico8583
8th November 2013, 20:29
I have made a new test (but I have seen you have found the bug). I have choose 47 GB output (instead of 25GB) and I have launch backup with same settings. All is working (it's logical, there is no encode) but strange result is final ISO file fit into a BD25 without reencode :confused:

jdobbs
8th November 2013, 20:35
I met with the following problem in BD-RB:

----------------------
[11.08.13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[18:20:40] Source: JACK_THE_GIANT_SLAYER_00100
- Input BD size: 27,09 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:08.883]
- Target BD size: 7,32 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:20:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:20:40] Processing: VID_00085 (1 of 1)
- [18:20:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00085]
- [18:29:38] Reencoding video [VID_00085]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 164*209 frames
- Bitrate: 6*769 Kbs
- [18:29:38] Reencoding: VID_00085, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:54:11] Reencoding: VID_00085, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:18:57] Video Encode complete
- [19:18:57] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [19:18:57] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [19:18:57] ReencodeAudio() 00070 1801
[19:20:14] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

I do not really understand because I marked the following options in the setup window which can affect on audio reencoding:

- Do not convert DTS to AC3;
- Do not reencode AC3;
- Keep HD Audio for BD25;

The other two options were unmarked.

Please advise.Error 70 is "Permission Denied". It could be that you don't have rights to the output folder, a file is locked by another process, you don't have rights to the file, and a couple of other circumstances. Bottom line is that it is related to rights.

I'm guessing the source is DTS and you're outputting to AVCHD. In that case the flags don't matter, because AVCHD doesn't accept DTS (it isn't part of the AVCHD standard). You might try unclicking "Strict AVCHD" in SETUP.

mparade
8th November 2013, 21:06
Error 70 is "Permission Denied". It could be that you don't have rights to the output folder, a file is locked by another process, you don't have rights to the file, and a couple of other circumstances. Bottom line is that it is related to rights.

I'm guessing the source is DTS and you're outputting to AVCHD. In that case the flags don't matter, because AVCHD doesn't accept DTS (it isn't part of the AVCHD standard). You might try unclicking "Strict AVCHD" in SETUP.

Yes, you are right, strict avchd remained checked.....

Darth_Emma
8th November 2013, 23:20
@Darth_Emma and others

I found the cause of the "file not found" error during rebuild and have fixed it for the next release.

Thank you. I will look for the new release and use that when you make it available.

mparade
8th November 2013, 23:40
I would like to know what is the basis of choosing between the VIDS to reencode when switching from one output option to the other in case of full backup mode? BD-rebuilder chooses by itself specific VIDS to reencode based on the given capacity on which to store. The VIDS which are not going to be reencoded will remain intact (supposed to be). I would just like to know the process "behind the curtain". I am asking it because it seems to me that it doesn't really depend on the size of the VIDS, there must be something else, too I think. For example if I switch the target size from BD-5 to BD-25 a lot of big sized VIDS are going to be left intact, but some with similar or even smaller sizes are about to be reencoded. Please advise.

jdobbs
8th November 2013, 23:58
I would like to know what is the basis of choosing between the VIDS to reencode when switching from one output option to the other in case of full backup mode? BD-rebuilder chooses by itself specific VIDS to reencode based on the given capacity on which to store. The VIDS which are not going to be reencoded will remain intact (supposed to be). I would just like to know the process "behind the curtain". I am asking it because it seems to me that it doesn't really depend on the size of the VIDS, there must be something else, too I think. For example if I switch the target size from BD-5 to BD-25 a lot of big sized VIDS are going to be left intact, but some with similar or even smaller sizes are about to be reencoded. Please advise. Look in the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file for MIN_M2TS_SIZE. The only other determining factor would be whether or not the file is determined to be a menu.

mparade
9th November 2013, 00:14
Look in the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file for MIN_M2TS_SIZE. The only other determining factor would be whether or not the file is determined to be a menu.

Ok, but it is still not clear, sorry. I have a VID with the size of 465 Mbyte for example, and I am in the output mode of BD-5, the program "wants" to reencode it, but if I simply switch to BD-25 mode the program ends up with the VID not located in the list anymore to be reencoded. It is not a menu and the size is above 100Mbyte, so there must be some other determining factor skipped.

jdobbs
9th November 2013, 20:55
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent release of BD-RB (v0.45.03). Note: This release has a LOT of changes and new code related to the way importing and Quick-Play reauthoring works. I ask that beta testers please concentrate on these features and post any issues you find. One other note - remember that an import or Quick-Play reauthored disc that only has one item does NOT create a menu, so it will be very much like a movie-only disc. At least two playlists have to match the import criteria (minimum threshold) to be included and invoke the need for a menu.

Changes for this release:- Made major changes to how the Quick-Play
reauthoring mechanism works. Implemented an
interactive menu to the reauthored output.
Now you can browse and select from multiple
titles on Quick-Play reauthored discs. This
feature applies also to all imported titles
(DVD, Videofile, and BD). This feature is
especially useful for combining and
reencoding multiple BD or DVD series discs
into a single BD-25 or BD-50. It is also
nice for creating a disc backup that comes
up-and-running without annoying leader and
sales information.
- Added significant new editing capabilities
associated with Quick-Play menu items. The
features include a dialog for viewing and/or
modifying title information for imports and
Quick-Play reauthored discs.
- Improved the algorithm for finding duplicate
playlists during import of multiple BDs via
Quick-Play reauthoring.
- Changed the MP4BOX temporary folder setting
to use the specified working folder rather
than the system default.
- Made a correction to the code related to
the hidden option FORCED_SUB_LANG. The
option wasn't working as designed in
v0.44.17. Also modified it so you can add
more than one language separated using a
semicolon. The languages are prioritized as
entered from left to right.
- Added a new hidden option REMOVE_IMPORT. If
set, BD-RB will remove the folder used for
import after the reencoding is successfully
completed. As with any auto-removal feature
you should be very careful in its use.
- Added a multiple BD import feature. Similar
to the DVD import function, if multiple BDs
are grouped together under a single selected
source folder, BD-RB gives you the option
of importing them as one (combining with the
Quick-Play reauthoring format). Please note
that the output to the IMPORT folder can be
very large (equal to all the combined source
BD folders).
- Improved the algorithm for determining title
playback order during IMPORT of DVDs or BDs.
- Added BD-50 as a selectable target size in
the OUTPUT OPTIONS menu. This should be of
particular use when creating collections via
the IMPORT functions.
- Removed DVD_IMPORT_THRESHOLD from the hidden
options. It was renamed to IMPORT_THRESHOLD,
now applies to both DVD imports and BD
imports, and is set via dialong.
- Added new option MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND. This
setting is currently experimental to some
degree. When set to "1" (the default) it
will tell BD-RB to attempt to find and
utilize a menu background & audio track from
the source disc when doing an import or
Quick-Play encode. Set via dialog.
- Made "zlib" compression the default for MKV
output to better comply with the Matroska
standard. Also added a new hidden option
"USE_ZLIB" that is documented in the
HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. Setting this option to
"0" disables zlib compression (for the few
players that may not support it).
- Corrected an issue in which an out-of-place
secondary audio stream could cause the PIDs
to be incorrectly updated in the MPLS file
during a full backup.
- Corrected an error in which LPCM sources in
DVDs were not being imported.
- Added code that will shorten the amount of
time used to scan sources on movie-only
backups -- especially in situations where the
number of M2TS files is large.
- Fixed an error that could result in failed
rebuild due to missing .264 file on certain
multipart sources being encoded in movie-only
mode.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to
the latest release (r2377).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE
to the latest release (r2377).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

jdobbs
9th November 2013, 21:38
I just noticed there is a bug I caused recently in the BD import function that results in "Runtime Error 9, Subscript out of Range" -- ugghhh... after two weeks of testing I cause an error in the last couple of changes.

Anyway, I'll find it, fix it, and post another version in the next hour or so.

[Edit] Ok, it's fixed and has been uploaded -- the first post has also been updated. I've also fixed it so any attempts to download v0.45.02 from the jdobbs site will actually get v0.45.03 as well.

RobertM
9th November 2013, 23:09
...a link to the most recent release of BD-RB (v0.45.03). Note: This release has a LOT of changes...

Boy, that looks like it was a lot of work! Thanks, again, JD, for keeping this app going - much appreciated. Without a doubt I'll be making my usual Christmas donation :)

jdobbs
9th November 2013, 23:21
Boy, that looks like it was a lot of work! Thanks, again, JD, for keeping this app going - much appreciated. Without a doubt I'll be making my usual Christmas donation :) It was definitely a lot of work. The reauthoring mechanism turned out to be a much bigger project than I anticipated.

I appreciate your support.

Glarioo
10th November 2013, 00:20
Two pass doesn't necessarily give better quality -- it just makes sure the output size is predictable. That's important when you have to fit your output on a DVD or BD disc, but not really that important for most MKV applications. It's more accurate to say that 2-pass gives the best quality available at a given average bitrate and CRF gives the most consistent quality level (keeping the Q about the same no matter how complex the picture) but with lots of variability in output size. The max bitrate would make a difference only in the most complex picture elements (assuming it is reasonable) -- and that would apply to both methods.

MKV vbv buffer/maxrate settings will be available in the next release. Be careful, though, you don't want to set the max bitrate too high. I used the 30Mbs value because it can be supported within the limitations of a blu-ray disc (e.g. storing MKVs on a BD-R). You'd likely have to increase resolution beyond 1080p to need more than that.

Is it possible to set vbv buffer/maxrate (2-pass MKV) in v0.45.0.3?
I can't find it the hidden options.

Darth_Emma
10th November 2013, 00:36
jdobbs:
FYI... the new version worked great on Monsters U.

Thanks for all the hard work you do.

I am sending a lil something via Paypal right now. Been meaning to do that for quite a while...

soneca
10th November 2013, 00:38
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent release of BD-RB (v0.45.03).

Thanks!!!:)

gonca
10th November 2013, 01:14
Import DVD(s)----Default menu works perfectly. Edited menu seems to hang. Must state that I am using TMT 6 to test. Doing encode with default menu now.

colinhunt
10th November 2013, 03:03
Testing multi-disc import in Quick-Play mode right now, and there's one thing I sorely miss: the option of forcing a subtitle track on, as in Movie-only mode. Discs have two English sub tracks on them, with different contents, and I'm guessing FORCED_SUB_LANG option is unable to decide which one to force on.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 04:29
Testing multi-disc import in Quick-Play mode right now, and there's one thing I sorely miss: the option of forcing a subtitle track on, as in Movie-only mode. Discs have two English sub tracks on them, with different contents, and I'm guessing FORCED_SUB_LANG option is unable to decide which one to force on. You should be able to do that after it is imported. Generally you would import, and then do a full backup (since the import has already been reauthored in Quick-Play.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 04:39
jdobbs:
FYI... the new version worked great on Monsters U.

Thanks for all the hard work you do.

I am sending a lil something via Paypal right now. Been meaning to do that for quite a while... Well... it fixed that specific issue -- but it looks like there is some other (protection?) issue with that disc that seems to make the audio float out of sync as you move through the film (at least with the default English track) when backing up in movie-only mode. I'm looking at that one now.

Snarko
10th November 2013, 05:41
re: 0.45.03

Looks like UPRESIZE is ignored?

colinhunt
10th November 2013, 11:47
You should be able to do that after it is imported. Generally you would import, and then do a full backup (since the import has already been reauthored in Quick-Play.
Could you elaborate a bit? You kinda lost me there :)

Nico8583
10th November 2013, 12:25
Thanks for the new release !
I've tried F&F6 but it starts to encode although it's not needed...

gonca
10th November 2013, 12:31
Import DVD(s)----Default menu works perfectly. Edited menu seems to hang. Must state that I am using TMT 6 to test. Doing encode with default menu now.

Issues seem to be TMT 6 related, but BD_RB appears okay.

@jdobbs
If you like I will try to find my old sony BD player and test

mparade
10th November 2013, 13:52
I have just realized that in the new version of BD-Rebuilder the FULL_3D=n command disappeared. What is the cause of that? Hopefully, I am going to deal with in the future just with Full 3D mkv files....

mparade
10th November 2013, 14:02
I have just realized that the number of VIDS in Full Backup Mode to reencode (located in window "stream") depends on the target size the one setup actually. According to my last information the only determining factors if a VID is reencoded or not are the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE" command and if the file is determined as a menu item. But due to some reason it seems to be depending on the target size, also.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 14:13
I have just realized that in the new version of BD-Rebuilder the FULL_3D=n command disappeared. What is the cause of that? Hopefully, I am going to deal with in the future just with Full 3D mkv files....It was actually removed a long time ago because it wasn't needed anymore after the "do not resize" option was added to ALTERNATE encoding. I'd just forgotten to take it out of the text file.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 14:19
Could you elaborate a bit? You kinda lost me there :) Import doesn't reencode. It simply takes the sources and pulls them into a BD format. Generally it only takes a matter of minutes to import (depending on the source size). For example, if I wanted to combine 3 series BDs or DVDs into a single disc, I could put them together in a folder and import the folder. The result would be a single BD structure containing the selected playlists and a menu, BUT that structure could be end up being as much as 150GB in size (3 BDs). AFTER it is imported you can then do a backup of it to shrink it down to your target size. That's when you might decide to force a subtitle.

If it happened that the imported BD structure was small enough to fit -- no problem, you'd still run the full backup, force a subtitle, and BD-RB would recognize that no reencoding was needed, and it would only take minutes.

Import is generally NOT meant to replace reencoding. It's main purpose it to combine multiple sources (BD, DVD, or video files) and/or convert them into a format and structure compatible with a blu-ray player.

I did add the ability to import a single BD. There are certain advantages that are obtained by doing so. For example, a multipart playlist is combined into a single CLPI/M2TS combination during import.

It is possible that some imports might be burned directly from the import folder (assuming it will fit on your target) if the source is DVD(s) or BD(s). For example, you might be able to import 10 single layer DVD movies and store them on a single BD-50 with no need for reencoding or quality loss. Since H.264 is roughly twice as efficient as DVD's MPEG-2, you might theoretically combine 20 DVD movies (single layer) without noticable loss of quality with H.264 reencoding. In testing I've created classic "collection" discs (like the old Sidney Toler Charlie Chan movies) holding several movies.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 14:25
re: 0.45.03

Looks like UPRESIZE is ignored?Nothing changed there from previous versions. I think you may be missing something, but I'd need more information.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 14:31
Thanks for the new release !
I've tried F&F6 but it starts to encode although it's not needed... Deciding to not reencode gets a little complicated with multipart sources, because the individual pieces can be referenced in more than one playlist, one or more of the other playlists might require reencoding, making it impossible to choose keeping only one piece intact -- and that was the root of the issue that was the original error. So I had to make the decision to keep a playlist intact a little more restrictive. I'm looking at revamping that entire routine. I'm trying to figure out a way to do it, though, that doesn't increase the scanning time too dramatically. It gets ugly when you have to scan 330 CLPI/M2TS combinations (like Monsters U) to see if each individual piece can be kept intact.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 15:38
Is it possible to set vbv buffer/maxrate (2-pass MKV) in v0.45.0.3?
I can't find it the hidden options. The way you that type of command line change would normally be done is via TWEAK_PASS_ONE and TWEAK_PASS_TWO (see HIDDENOPTS.TXT). But the VBV parameters aren't accepted in those options by BD-RB because they can cause the output to be unusable/unplayable by BD standards. If you add them they are ignored.

I'd forgotten I was going to look into setting a hidden option for that... sorry. What I'll probably do instead is accept the VBV settings if the output is ALTERNATE, but I'll need to look at the implications of that.

gonca
10th November 2013, 16:00
10 episode DVD import. Burned to disc. Works perfect.

log
[07:24:57] Importing DVD: NIGHT_STALKER
- Processing DVD title [1 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [2 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [3 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [4 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [5 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [6 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [7 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [8 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [9 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [10 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[07:32:03] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[11/10/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.03 (beta)
[07:36:52] Source: NIGHT_STALKER
- Input BD size: 15.27 GB
- Approximate total content: [07:06:13.580]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[07:36:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:36:52] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 10)
- [07:36:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [07:37:38] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 78,522 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,818 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,882 Kbs
- [07:37:38] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:43:22] Video Encode complete
- [07:43:22] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [07:43:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:43:38] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 10)
- [07:43:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [07:44:23] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 77,622 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,098 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,958 Kbs
- [07:44:23] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:50:14] Video Encode complete
- [07:50:14] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [07:50:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:50:29] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 10)
- [07:50:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [07:51:14] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 77,592 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,074 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 7,000 Kbs
- [07:51:14] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:57:02] Video Encode complete
- [07:57:02] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [07:57:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:57:17] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 10)
- [07:57:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [07:58:01] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 74,926 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 59,941 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,931 Kbs
- [07:58:01] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:03:35] Video Encode complete
- [08:03:35] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:03:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:03:49] Processing: VID_00005 (5 of 10)
- [08:03:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [08:04:34] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 75,136 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 60,109 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 7,028 Kbs
- [08:04:34] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:10:10] Video Encode complete
- [08:10:10] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:10:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:10:25] Processing: VID_00006 (6 of 10)
- [08:10:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [08:11:07] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 76,694 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 61,355 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,590 Kbs
- [08:11:07] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:16:44] Video Encode complete
- [08:16:44] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:16:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:16:59] Processing: VID_00007 (7 of 10)
- [08:16:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [08:17:43] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 77,682 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,146 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,626 Kbs
- [08:17:43] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:23:23] Video Encode complete
- [08:23:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:23:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:23:39] Processing: VID_00008 (8 of 10)
- [08:23:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [08:24:19] Reencoding video [VID_00008]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 74,326 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 59,461 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,514 Kbs
- [08:24:19] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:29:46] Video Encode complete
- [08:29:46] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:29:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:30:00] Processing: VID_00009 (9 of 10)
- [08:30:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [08:30:42] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 76,284 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 61,027 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,531 Kbs
- [08:30:42] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:36:20] Video Encode complete
- [08:36:20] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:36:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:36:35] Processing: VID_00010 (10 of 10)
- [08:36:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [08:37:17] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 77,652 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,122 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,420 Kbs
- [08:37:17] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:42:54] Video Encode complete
- [08:42:54] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:42:54] Multiplexing M2TS
[08:43:08]PHASE ONE complete
[08:43:08]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:43:08] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[08:43:09] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[08:43:09] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.


ini
[Options]
VERSION=0.45.0.3
MULTIPROCESS=1
HC_PROFILE=BEST
DTSX_ENABLE=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=0
IMPORT_FOLDER=D:\
KEEP_HD_LPCM=1
DEINTERLACER_TYPE=3
UPRESIZE=LanczosResize
SD_PROGRESSIVE=1
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=0
REMOVE_IMPORT=0
USE_ZLIB=0
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
MENU_BACKGROUND=C:\Users\LUIS\Desktop\BD-RBV04503\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=15
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=10
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=1
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=1
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=6150
TARGET_SIZE=23500
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=10
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
AUTO_BURN=2
[Paths]
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\dgdecnv\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\dgdecnv\DGDecodeNV.dll
WORKING_PATH=W:\SERIES\
SOURCE_PATH=D:\IMPORTS\NIGHT_STALKER\


Works perfectly on sony 550

Nico8583
10th November 2013, 16:08
Deciding to not reencode gets a little complicated with multipart sources, because the individual pieces can be referenced in more than one playlist, one or more of the other playlists might require reencoding, making it impossible to choose keeping only one piece intact -- and that was the root of the issue that was the original error. So I had to make the decision to keep a playlist intact a little more restrictive. I'm looking at revamping that entire routine. I'm trying to figure out a way to do it, though, that doesn't increase the scanning time too dramatically. It gets ugly when you have to scan 330 CLPI/M2TS combinations (like Monsters U) to see if each individual piece can be kept intact.
Thanks ! This is for full backup and/or movie only ?

Darth_Emma
10th November 2013, 17:01
I will wait for the next release of BDRB and encode it again. Thanks again.

colinhunt
10th November 2013, 17:47
Import doesn't reencode. It simply takes the sources and pulls them into a BD format. Generally it only takes a matter of minutes to import (depending on the source size). For example, if I wanted to combine 3 series BDs or DVDs into a single disc, I could put them together in a folder and import the folder. The result would be a single BD structure containing the selected playlists and a menu, BUT that structure could be end up being as much as 150GB in size (3 BDs). AFTER it is imported you can then do a backup of it to shrink it down to your target size. That's when you might decide to force a subtitle.
Allrighty. I imported 4 anime discs into a single compilation, and opened it in the IMPORTS directory. Stream window lists VIDs 01-04, each has two English subtitle tracks. If I select Full Backup, I can't force either of the two sub tracks. Same thing with Quick-Play Backup. Movie-Only lets me force a sub track, but the backup will contain only one of the four VIDs.

Glarioo
10th November 2013, 18:02
For MKV container 1920x1080p 640Kbs DD5.1 (2-pass) vbv bufsize/maxrate is still limited to 15000.

LASTCMD:
C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 10372 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "

laserfan
10th November 2013, 18:55
Good work jdobbs I re-did Salt using 45.02 and the audio problems appear fixed. It *does* seem as though BD-RB ignores custom sizes though: I set the hiddenopt CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500, and under the Settings>Output Options is checked Custom Target Size ( 23500MB ), but in the BD-REBUILDER.LOG it says " - Target BD size: 22.95 GB" and the final result for me Windows Properties for the output folder shows

Size: 22.1 GB (23,813,710,577 bytes)

though maybe I am misunderstanding the "GB" and "MB" usages and thus the actual bytes of output is correct and to-be-expected? :confused:

Sharc
10th November 2013, 20:13
For MKV container 1920x1080p 640Kbs DD5.1 (2-pass) vbv bufsize/maxrate is still limited to 15000.

LASTCMD:
C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 10372 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "
15000 is perfectly right for SD media (BD5 and BD9). With higher values you risk to run into problems (stutter) during playback.
What is your target medium?

Sharc
10th November 2013, 20:53
Good work jdobbs I re-did Salt using 45.02 and the audio problems appear fixed. It *does* seem as though BD-RB ignores custom sizes though: I set the hiddenopt CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500, and under the Settings>Output Options is checked Custom Target Size ( 23500MB ), but in the BD-REBUILDER.LOG it says " - Target BD size: 22.95 GB" and the final result for me Windows Properties for the output folder shows

Size: 22.1 GB (23,813,710,577 bytes)

though maybe I am misunderstanding the "GB" and "MB" usages and thus the actual bytes of output is correct and to-be-expected? :confused:
These conversions tend to create confusion.
Strictly, the conversion factor between kB, MB, GB is 1000 while the conversion factor between kiB, MiB, GiB is 1024.
So in fact 23500 MiB = 22.949 GiB which is actually what you get but with the "wrong" (but more familiar) units GB instead of GiB. :devil:

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 22:19
Allrighty. I imported 4 anime discs into a single compilation, and opened it in the IMPORTS directory. Stream window lists VIDs 01-04, each has two English subtitle tracks. If I select Full Backup, I can't force either of the two sub tracks. Same thing with Quick-Play Backup. Movie-Only lets me force a sub track, but the backup will contain only one of the four VIDs.Hmmm.... I forgot about that. I'll add the capability to Quick-Play for the next release.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 22:24
Good work jdobbs I re-did Salt using 45.02 and the audio problems appear fixed. It *does* seem as though BD-RB ignores custom sizes though: I set the hiddenopt CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500, and under the Settings>Output Options is checked Custom Target Size ( 23500MB ), but in the BD-REBUILDER.LOG it says " - Target BD size: 22.95 GB" and the final result for me Windows Properties for the output folder shows

Size: 22.1 GB (23,813,710,577 bytes)

though maybe I am misunderstanding the "GB" and "MB" usages and thus the actual bytes of output is correct and to-be-expected? :confused: Yes. (22.95/1024)=23500.8

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 22:25
15000 is perfectly right for SD media (BD5 and BD9). With higher values you risk to run into problems (stutter) during playback.
What is your target medium? He's outputting to an MKV -- so I see his problem.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 22:26
These conversions tend to create confusion.
Strictly, the conversion factor between kB, MB, GB is 1000 while the conversion factor between kiB, MiB, GiB is 1024.
So in fact 23500 MiB = 22.949 GiB which is actually what you get but with the "wrong" (but more familiar) units GB instead of GiB. :devil:In computer terms they are all strictly multiples of an even binary number -- or at least it was when I went to college many years ago (and when I taught college a few years later). So 1KB = 1024 bytes. One megabyte is (1024 * 1024). One gigabyte is (1024 * 1024 * 1024). But hard drive manufacturers did it incorrectly to make is look like it is more than it really is and got all the notation screwed up -- so then people started adding GiB etc to confuse a fairly simple concept. So one true GB is 1,073,741,824 bytes, hexadecimal 0x40000000. In binary it is 1000000000000000000000000000000.

So if you buy 1GB of internal memory you are getting 1,073,741,824 bytes of memory. But if you get a 1GB hard drive it only has 1,000,000,000 bytes. I hate it when the same term means two different things and I refuse to accept it. ;) What good is a standard unit of measure that means two different things or changes definitions with at the drop of a hat?

laserfan
10th November 2013, 23:10
Yes. (22.95/1024)=23500.8

Ok, well then I have to ask why you would mix these in the program i.e. I put 23500MB into the CUSTOM as I said, and your Settings reports exactly that, but in the log it's stated another way. It seems to me I might not be the only user that's been confused by this.

I do concur with your long-standing arguments about "why risk over-running the 25,025,314,816 bytes total available" but in this case if you remember I had run it before already, and so thought this time I'd up the ante cuz before I'd left fully two gigabytes on the table vs. this time which was still about 1.2GB left over.

Just sayin' maybe to let the program report consistently so users don't have to second guess these.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 23:22
Ok, well then I have to ask why you would mix these in the program i.e. I put 23500MB into the CUSTOM as I said, and your Settings reports exactly that, but in the log it's stated another way. It seems to me I might not be the only user that's been confused by this.

I do concur with your long-standing arguments about "why risk over-running the 25,025,314,816 bytes total available" but in this case if you remember I had run it before already, and so thought this time I'd up the ante cuz before I'd left fully two gigabytes on the table vs. this time which was still about 1.2GB left over.

Just sayin' maybe to let the program report consistently so users don't have to second guess these.But it is consistent. I report in standard units in both instances. I made it possible to enter it in MB so you can have a greater level of granularity. If someone told you to go a kilometer, would you insist that he call it 1,000 meters instead?

Damn. I sure seem to be in an argumentative mood lately. Maybe I need to switch to decaf.

Sharc
10th November 2013, 23:41
He's outputting to an MKV -- so I see his problem.
I see, but wouldn't the 15000 limit nevertheless apply if the .mkv is going to be burnt to a SD disc (single or double layer "DVD") due to limited disk spinning speed? For other media it can be higher of course (40000 IIRC for BD25 or BD50).

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 23:44
@Darth_Emma

Do a Quick-Play backup of "Monsters University". It can do the backup with only the movie -- and keep the audio in-sync. Quick-Play keeps the original multi-part structure (it also can keep multiple angles or playlists that use the same pieces without increasing required storage). Right after selecting Quick-Play, click on "Edit Quick Play menu". You'll notice that there are three different versions of the film on the disc. I selected only the first one by itself, but you should be able to keep them all if you want with minimal impact. I'm not sure what the differences are -- maybe language or extended cuts, I didn't look.

Anyway, I ended up with a movie-only backup where everything is in-sync.

In any event, I still need to analyze the source to find why there is something making it different from other multi-part discs in a standard movie-only backup.

jdobbs
10th November 2013, 23:50
I see, but wouldn't the 15000 limit nevertheless apply if the .mkv is going to be burnt to a SD disc (single or double layer "DVD") due to limited disk spinning speed? For other media it can be higher of course (40000 IIRC for BD25 or BD50). Maybe, maybe not. If it was going to be played on a standalone player, probably so. But since computer drives can spin at more than the required 1x it may not matter. (added note: Actually I think AVCHD requires 2x if I remember properly -- but the point remains).

Anyway, I said I was going to do it, and I like to think I always keep my word.

Sharc
11th November 2013, 00:05
But it is consistent. I report in standard units in both instances. I made it possible to enter it in MB so you can have a greater level of granularity. If someone told you to go a kilometer, would you insist that he call it 1,000 meters instead?
No problem unless someone would insist on 1,024 meters :D

laserfan
11th November 2013, 00:10
Damn. I sure seem to be in an argumentative mood lately. Maybe I need to switch to decaf.
Maybe this will put you in a better mood--I just sent you $20 bucks. I do appreciate your work, despite that I don't always understand it...!

I wanna make a joke now about "opening a floodgate" of donations for you, but maybe the timing is wrong for that sensitive subject. It's obvious you sure have put a lot of work into the latest updates, and so my nit is ill-timed. Anyway,

:thanks:

BTW I think maybe you missed my point, which was simply: if I put 23500MB into CUSTOM, then the log should say 23,500MB (or 23.5GB). That's all I was saying; it looks wrong to the un-initiated.

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 01:16
No problem unless someone would insist on 1,024 meters :D If it were inside a computer generated virtual world... it would have to be. :)

AmigaFuture
11th November 2013, 01:49
So if you buy 1GB of internal memory you are getting 1,073,741,824 bytes of memory. But if you get a 1GB hard drive it only has 1,000,000,000 bytes. I hate it when the same term means two different things and I refuse to accept it. ;) What good is a standard unit of measure that means two different things or changes definitions with at the drop of a hat?

That's awesome and I agree completely.

I'm testing the Quick-Play Menu in the 4 modes with some iPad 2 videos 1080x720. The menus are displaying as they should, and are functioning very well. However, I may have misunderstood something...or..?? I also checked the hidden settings. Is there a switch or setting to set to dis/enable for the menu not to display after each video is played? Excellent for Episode...but perhaps not when you'd like the videos to play sequentially without the menu every time. Like, it's only displayed and interactive if you press the Menu button?

I appreciate the Share of your personal menu system.

Darth_Emma
11th November 2013, 02:34
@Darth_Emma

Do a Quick-Play backup of "Monsters University". It can do the backup with only the movie -- and keep the audio in-sync. Quick-Play keeps the original multi-part structure (it also can keep multiple angles or playlists that use the same pieces without increasing required storage). Right after selecting Quick-Play, click on "Edit Quick Play menu". You'll notice that there are three different versions of the film on the disc. I selected only the first one by itself, but you should be able to keep them all if you want with minimal impact. I'm not sure what the differences are -- maybe language or extended cuts, I didn't look.

Anyway, I ended up with a movie-only backup where everything is in-sync.

In any event, I still need to analyze the source to find why there is something making it different from other multi-part discs in a standard movie-only backup.


Thanks, I'll try that.

I am still not sure what to do with my audio settings under the setting/setup menu. I'm going to try it with all of them unchecked.

mparade
11th November 2013, 09:11
I have just realized that the number of VIDS in the stream list in Full Backup Mode seems to be hanging on the target size choosen, too. According to my last information the only determining factors if a VID is reencoded or not are the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE" command and if the file is determined as a menu item. But due to some reason it seems to be depending on the target size, also. To check this, while looking at the stream list just switch to another target size and the number of VIDS to reencode will change. (At least with Jack The Giant Slayer BD Disk).

Could you please check what did I wrong?

montana72
11th November 2013, 09:13
Differences between the monsters bluray videos is that on-screen texts appear in the selected language.

gonca
11th November 2013, 13:53
Multi DVD and BD import, with convert SD to 1080 for both sets, working as expected and the menu is fully functional.

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 13:56
That's awesome and I agree completely.

I'm testing the Quick-Play Menu in the 4 modes with some iPad 2 videos 1080x720. The menus are displaying as they should, and are functioning very well. However, I may have misunderstood something...or..?? I also checked the hidden settings. Is there a switch or setting to set to dis/enable for the menu not to display after each video is played? Excellent for Episode...but perhaps not when you'd like the videos to play sequentially without the menu every time. Like, it's only displayed and interactive if you press the Menu button?

I appreciate the Share of your personal menu system.Funny you'd say that. I had originally made it work that way, and then decided to change it so it exited to the menu. I'll add a switch.

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 13:58
Differences between the monsters bluray videos is that on-screen texts appear in the selected language.Ahh.. thanks. I figured it was something like that, I just never got around to looking.

laserfan
11th November 2013, 14:07
Maybe this will put you in a better mood--I just sent you $20 bucks.

You're welcome! :rolleyes:

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 15:01
You're welcome! :rolleyes:It is very much appreciated. I'm sorry I wasn't quicker with my response.

Blurayhd
11th November 2013, 15:12
November 9th, 2013 - v0.45.03
- Made major changes to how the Quick-Play reauthoring mechanism works. Implemented an interactive menu to the reauthored output. Now you can browse and select from multiple titles on Quick-Play reauthored discs. This feature applies also to all imported titles (DVD, Videofile, and BD). This feature is especially useful for combining and reencoding multiple BD or DVD series discs into a single BD-25 or BD-50

First of all excusme my English because i speak Spanish but i trying to do my best, dear jdobbs, iI have tried with two bluray discs and quick play to make everything on a disk but I can not do, not how. You can please help? Could you give me some link to some guide?

Thanks for your time

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 15:41
First of all excusme my English because i speak Spanish but i trying to do my best, dear jdobbs, iI have tried with two bluray discs and quick play to make everything on a disk but I can not do, not how. You can please help? Could you give me some link to some guide?

Thanks for your time Are you trying to create a single disc from two? Below is how. Keep in mind that you might want to use more meaningful names -- and you can edit your output menu's text:

1. Create a folder to hold the two discs. For example, you might create a folder called "D:\BOTH_DISCS"

2. Rip the two BDs into that folder. It might look like this:
D:\BOTH_DISCS
D:\BOTH_DISCS\DISC_1
D:\BOTH_DISCS\DISC_2

3. Open up BD-RB and select IMPORT and IMPORT BD(s) from the FILES menu. Then browse for D:\BOTH_DISCS

4. The import will take a few minutes, depending on how many discs you are importing. If you haven't created a default path for imports with the IMPORT_FOLDER hidden option, the result of the import will be in your Working Path. Let's say your working path is "D:\WORKING". So you should now have a new folder called "D:\WORKING\IMPORTS".

5. If you look in that folder you'll find another new folder called "BOTH_DISCS" -- if it is small enough (not likely) you could burn that folder. If you have a computer based player like PowerDVD 11, etc, you can point to it and test it. But since it is likely too large you move on to step 6.

6. From BD-RB select "D:\WORKING\BOTH_DISCS" as your source folder. Choose an output folder (or keep it as "D:\WORKING")... also choose an output target size.

7. Do a Full backup. At the end of the process you will have a folder called BOTH_DISCS in your working folder. It will be sized to match your target -- and you can burn it to disc.

gonca
11th November 2013, 16:26
Thanks for the new features and your hard work. $100 donation on the way.

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 16:32
Thanks for the new features and your hard work. $100 donation on the way. Wow. Thanks. I truly appreciate the support.

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 16:34
That's awesome and I agree completely.

I'm testing the Quick-Play Menu in the 4 modes with some iPad 2 videos 1080x720. The menus are displaying as they should, and are functioning very well. However, I may have misunderstood something...or..?? I also checked the hidden settings. Is there a switch or setting to set to dis/enable for the menu not to display after each video is played? Excellent for Episode...but perhaps not when you'd like the videos to play sequentially without the menu every time. Like, it's only displayed and interactive if you press the Menu button?

I appreciate the Share of your personal menu system. I've added this as an option under the Import/Quick Play settings dialog. If you choose sequential play, the only time it will automatically return to the menu is at the end the last play item (or, of course, if you select the MENU button from your remote).

gonca
11th November 2013, 16:44
I've added this as an option under the Import/Quick Play settings dialog. If you choose sequential play, the only time it will automatically return to the menu is at the end the last play item (or, of course, if you select the MENU button from your remote).

Will we have to re encode or just re import and copy the 99001 and 99002 m2ts files to make use of the sequential play

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 17:04
Will we have to re encode or just re import and copy the 99001 and 99002 m2ts files to make use of the sequential play You could just select Quick-Play and run it through with the new setting, it shouldn't need to reencode.

The change isn't actually in either of those two files, it would show up in MovieObject.bdmv in the BDMV folder (there's also a backup copy in the BDMV\BACKUP folder). If everything else is the same (for example if you imported the exact same list again and made the same edits, but didn't necessarily encode) you could probably just copy those two .bdmv files. But if anything had changed you might end up with an unplayable result.

gonca
11th November 2013, 17:17
Sounds good. If I understand correctly just do a Quick-Play import and that becomes my new "BD".

Once again, thank you for your hard work.

Capsbackup
11th November 2013, 17:53
Perhaps I am missing something, it wont be the first time. :confused:
I have Quick-Play backup enabled, I import 3 mpg titles created from a DVD recorder that are DVD compliant files via import video files, I edit the main title's name as well as the 3 individual titles names to my preferred, then click save and continue.
----------------------
[08:28:33] Importing: BDRB_MP
- [08:29:25] Importing video file: (1 of 3)
- Preparing MPG for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [08:30:34] Importing video file: (2 of 3)
- Preparing MPG for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [08:31:31] Importing video file: (3 of 3)
- Preparing MPG for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [08:32:33] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[08:32:37] Video import completed successfully.

When I test the folder that is created in the "Import" folder with TMT3, the first video starts and plays to completion. However, then the menu (still with stars and a moon) is displayed but none of the titles names are displayed to select. Only this picture is visible.
I can right click within TMT3 to select title 1, 2 or 3, but cannot select a title from the displayed menu since there is no titles even visible. :o
What am I doing wrong? :(

gonca
11th November 2013, 18:30
Capsbackup

I can tell you that TMT 6 has issues with the menus created by BD_RB, even worse than those. PowerDVD13 has no issues. My standalone Sony 550 has no issues. The problem is more than likely with TMT3 in your case. I pulled my Sony out of storage just to test the new features because of the way TMT6 was behaving.

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 19:11
Sounds good. If I understand correctly just do a Quick-Play import and that becomes my new "BD".

Once again, thank you for your hard work. Yes. An import reauthors and creates a BD structure from the multiple sources, and builds a Quick-Play menu for it -- but it doesn't reencode. The source can be BDs, video files (AVI, MKV, MP4, etc), or DVDs. It usually results in a structure that is too big to burn.

A Quick-Play backup will take any BD source (not multiple sources) and reauthor it keeping the significant playlists -- and also reencode it if necessary to fit the target size. All the settings in the SETUP dialog apply to a Quick-Play backup just like it would a full backup. None of them (beyond the Import/Quick-Play dialog) apply to an import.

As an example, in my testing I imported all three BD discs from Season 1 of one of my favorite series into a single structure. It imported into a single legal BD format that contained all 10 episodes plus a couple of "making of" extras -- but it was almost 150GB (the size of the three source BDs). When I imported, I also edited the titles so they matched the actual episode titles. I then did a full backup to a BD-50. In the end I had a single disc that had an entire season on it -- and because of the "Auto Menu" function -- it had a nice customized backdrop for the menus. And... it looks very, very good. I can't distinguish it from the originals.

jdobbs
11th November 2013, 19:23
Perhaps I am missing something, it wont be the first time. :confused:
I have Quick-Play backup enabled, I import 3 mpg titles created from a DVD recorder that are DVD compliant files via import video files, I edit the main title's name as well as the 3 individual titles names to my preferred, then click save and continue.


When I test the folder that is created in the "Import" folder with TMT3, the first video starts and plays to completion. However, then the menu (still with stars and a moon) is displayed but none of the titles names are displayed to select. Only this picture is visible.
I can right click within TMT3 to select title 1, 2 or 3, but cannot select a title from the displayed menu since there is no titles even visible. :o
What am I doing wrong? :(Capsbackup

I can tell you that TMT 6 has issues with the menus created by BD_RB, even worse than those. PowerDVD13 has no issues. My standalone Sony 550 has no issues. The problem is more than likely with TMT3 in your case. I pulled my Sony out of storage just to test the new features because of the way TMT6 was behaving. I'm confident that the menus created by BD-RB are 100% BD compliant. I spent a lot of time with the BD spec making sure that is the case. The issue is likely to be in TMT. Software players are rarely a good test. But I can tell you that it works correctly with PowerDVD 11 and every standalone I've tried.

I did find and fix a bug today related to importing while you have Quick-Play selected as your output mode... I'm not sure if it is related to what you're seeing, but try making sure you have either full-backup or movie-only selected when you're doing the import and let me know if that fixes your issue. The bug I fixed might conceivably have blanked out the menu title names during the authoring (the Quick-Play mode was "bumping-heads" with the import). You don't need Quick-Play selected to do an import.

If it does let me know, an I'll post an interim version with the fix rather than wait for more bug reports.

AmigaFuture
11th November 2013, 21:20
Funny you'd say that. I had originally made it work that way, and then decided to change it so it exited to the menu. I'll add a switch.

Ahhh...Haaaa...Haaaa! Sweet! Thank YOU. The benefit of choice will add to the nectar of the program. Trying to get tricky, eh? See if someone would notice?? :D

It did freeze a few times while importing and aborting import, so I had to force an exit. I...don't have it repeatable yet....so for now, FYI.

Blurayhd
11th November 2013, 23:16
Are you trying to create a single disc from two? Below is how. Keep in mind that you might want to use more meaningful names -- and you can edit your output menu's text:

1. Create a folder to hold the two discs. For example, you might create a folder called "D:\BOTH_DISCS"

2. Rip the two BDs into that folder. It might look like this:
D:\BOTH_DISCS
D:\BOTH_DISCS\DISC_1
D:\BOTH_DISCS\DISC_2

3. Open up BD-RB and select IMPORT and IMPORT BD(s) from the FILES menu. Then browse for D:\BOTH_DISCS

4. The import will take a few minutes, depending on how many discs you are importing. If you haven't created a default path for imports with the IMPORT_FOLDER hidden option, the result of the import will be in your Working Path. Let's say your working path is "D:\WORKING". So you should now have a new folder called "D:\WORKING\IMPORTS".

5. If you look in that folder you'll find another new folder called "BOTH_DISCS" -- if it is small enough (not likely) you could burn that folder. If you have a computer based player like PowerDVD 11, etc, you can point to it and test it. But since it is likely too large you move on to step 6.

6. From BD-RB select "D:\WORKING\BOTH_DISCS" as your source folder. Choose an output folder (or keep it as "D:\WORKING")... also choose an output target size.

7. Do a Full backup. At the end of the process you will have a folder called BOTH_DISCS in your working folder. It will be sized to match your target -- and you can burn it to disc.

Thankyou jdobbs for your detailed info.

I´ll try this as soon i can

AmigaFuture
12th November 2013, 04:11
Hmm... I did experience a hang with Quick-Play which led to a crash. Could be related to the other hang I haven't located.
After it crashed, reloaded. Had BD-RB do import again. I started editing the list because some filenames as the descriptions were to long. Once done, everything looks good in the log:

[18:53:47] Importing: GLACIER
- [18:54:34] Importing video file: (1 of 9)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [18:54:46] Importing video file: (2 of 9)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [18:55:12] Importing video file: (3 of 9)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [18:57:07] Importing video file: (4 of 9)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [18:57:18] Importing video file: (5 of 9)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [18:58:45] Importing video file: (6 of 9)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [18:59:29] Importing video file: (7 of 9)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [18:59:37] Importing video file: (8 of 9)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [18:59:56] Importing video file: (9 of 9)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [19:00:02] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[19:00:07] Video import completed successfully.
For a test before using my Standalone player, I ran PowerDVD 12, and the edited list is replaced with a generic. Yet, the titles.inf in the directory of the imported files contains my edits. Where the final doesn't. Doing more testing...perhaps I should replace some characters..

Capsbackup
12th November 2013, 05:48
I'm confident that the menus created by BD-RB are 100% BD compliant. I spent a lot of time with the BD spec making sure that is the case. The issue is likely to be in TMT. Software players are rarely a good test. But I can tell you that it works correctly with PowerDVD 11 and every standalone I've tried.

I did find and fix a bug today related to importing while you have Quick-Play selected as your output mode... I'm not sure if it is related to what you're seeing, but try making sure you have either full-backup or movie-only selected when you're doing the import and let me know if that fixes your issue. The bug I fixed might conceivably have blanked out the menu title names during the authoring (the Quick-Play mode was "bumping-heads" with the import). You don't need Quick-Play selected to do an import.

If it does let me know, an I'll post an interim version with the fix rather than wait for more bug reports.

It does appear to be a problem with TMT3, or TMT3 just doesn't like BD-RB's creation. ;)
Burned to DVD+RW and tried on my Sony S360 and the menu text is visible and works correctly, starting with title one, goes to menu with title two highlighted. At completion of title two, the menu is displayed with title three highlighted. (Yellow is default color?)
Can I set BD-RB to start at the menu when the disc is inserted into my S360? (nice on episode discs so you don't have to play title one first to get to the menu and is easier to get to the title you want to play)
Can I set chapter points per my own predetermined chapter times / text file?

Excellent addition to an already great program! :D
:thanks:

EDIT:
Is adding audio to the menu an option?
Can you change the position / placement of the menu buttons?

Sharc
12th November 2013, 09:29
The new Quick menu is a great feature :cool:

I just had 2 issues when doing a Quick-Play Backup of an episodic BD (4 episodes + 2 selected Extras) to BD9 target:

1. The CERTIFICATE folder is missing in the reauthored file structure. I get the Bdmv folder only.
2. The quick menu shows the title of the Disc for episode 4 instead of my edited title for that Episode.

Workaround:
I have to import the encoded BD9, edit the quick menu again and rebuild. The file structure in the Imports folder then includes the CERTIFICATE folder, and the quick menu is now correct, means I can burn the disc from the Imports Folder.

I had the same issues with 2 different disks. Do I miss something?

AmigaFuture
12th November 2013, 11:55
Workaround:
I have to import the encoded BD9, edit the quick menu again and rebuild. The file structure in the Import folder then includes the CERTIFICATE folder, and the quick menu is now correct, means I can burn the disc from the Import folder, but chapters seem to be off or lost then.

I had the same issues with 2 different disks. Do I miss something?

I confirm that with CERTIFICATE and Quick-Play Menu text, using MKV's processed with BD-RB.

gonca
12th November 2013, 12:11
The new Quick menu is a great feature :cool:

I just had 2 issues when doing a Quick-Play Backup of an episodic BD (4 episodes + 2 selected Extras) to BD9 target:

1. The CERTIFICATE folder is missing in the reauthored file structure. I get the Bdmv folder only.


Do you have STRICT_AVCHD checked in the settings?

Sharc
12th November 2013, 12:16
Do you have STRICT_AVCHD checked in the settings?
No.

But now another problem: After burning to disk, one of the menu buttons does not show up on TV, and the remaining menu buttons start the wrong episode (shifted by one, due to the missing button?)

@jdobbs:
While the structure in the titles.inf in the backup\playlist folder seems clear, it appears to me that the referenced playlists does not exist as .mpls. For example:
00120 = Episode 2
=> I don't find a corresponding 00120.mpls

Could this be the cause of the problem (or do the numbers in the titles.inf not refer to playlists)?

laserfan
12th November 2013, 14:04
Thanks for the new features and your hard work. $100 donation on the way.
Wow is that US or CDN?! ;)

Nice. BTW I have had some odd problems with using TMT3 to test my BD-RB backups, such as listing all subtitle and audio tracks as English. So I'm not surprised it makes mistakes with the new features.

I also have TMT5 and TMT6 that I've never installed but I guess they are broken too? Only PowerDVD11 works reliably?

Capsbackup
12th November 2013, 15:09
The new Quick menu is a great feature :cool:

1. The CERTIFICATE folder is missing in the reauthored file structure. I get the Bdmv folder only.


I too can confirm this missing CERTIFICATE folder!

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 15:29
Is adding audio to the menu an option?
Can you change the position / placement of the menu buttons? Audio: not yet but you will in the future. If you are importing from a BD, in fact, the audio is already included (along with the source menu background). Buttons: I can look at adding that, but it's a bit of a pain because I have to make adjustments to all. Letting the user is harder because of all the checks involved. Currently I have a 64 title limit implemented.
1. The CERTIFICATE folder is missing in the reauthored file structure. I get the Bdmv folder only.
2. The quick menu shows the title of the Disc for episode 4 instead of my edited title for that Episode. 1. So you have "Strict AVCHD" set? 2. Hmm... I'll have to test it. But if there were only three when you edit -- it will definitely add the other using the disc name later (for example if you changed the import threshold between two starts). If the source is on hard drive you can look at the "titles.inf" file that gets created in either the source root or BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST to see what is actually there.

One other thing to watch: make sure you accidentally uncheck one of the items you want to keep. I've done that a couple of times.

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 15:37
No.

But now another problem: After burning to disk, one of the menu buttons does not show up on TV, and the remaining menu buttons start the wrong episode (shifted by one, due to the missing button?)

@jdobbs:
While the structure in the titles.inf in the backup\playlist folder seems clear, it appears to me that the referenced playlists does not exist as .mpls. For example:
00120 = Episode 2
=> I don't find a corresponding 00120.mpls

Could this be the cause of the problem (or do the numbers in the titles.inf not refer to playlists)?After you import they will change to a sequentially numbered set of MPLSs. But if that isn't the case the names are exactly what BD-RB finds in the source.

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 15:38
I too can confirm this missing CERTIFICATE folder! I'll look at it. But if it is an BD-5 or BD-9 it isn't generally kept.

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 15:40
After burning to disk, one of the menu buttons does not show up on TV, and the remaining menu buttons start the wrong episode (shifted by one, due to the missing button?) Can you post the titles.inf file and show me what it says compared to what you were expecting? I also need to know if it was an import from BD, from DVD, or files (they each have separate import routines).

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 16:07
I'm thinking that some of these reported issues may be related to changing the threshold values. Unfortunately when the threshold changes, the edits can become wrong because the list doesn't match the original. Can anyone confirm that may be the case in their report? I may have to put the threshold value into the INF file and ignore previous edits when it doesn't match.

If that isn't the case, I'd appreciate it if someone could provide me with a specific set of steps that will make a playlist be out-of-order etc so I can debug it... thanks.

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 16:17
I too can confirm this missing CERTIFICATE folder!I'm a little confused about the CERTIFICATE folder reports -- because nothing should have changed related to that. Is it missing in the IMPORT folder or in the output after a reencode? If it's the latter -- I think it has always worked that way... because AVCHD doesn't use it.

Any additional information would be appreciated

I'd like to nail all these bugs soon and get out a new release.

Capsbackup
12th November 2013, 16:44
I'm a little confused about the CERTIFICATE folder reports -- because nothing should have changed related to that. Is it missing in the IMPORT folder or in the output after a reencode? If it's the latter -- I think it has always worked that way... because AVCHD doesn't use it.

Any additional information would be appreciated

I'd like to nail all these bugs soon and get out a new release.

Just repeated the missing CERTIFICATE folder. :p
I import 3 DVD compliant mpg files created from a set top DVD Recorder. These are 3 separate TV episode files.
I have "Quick-Play Backup" enabled, Strict AVCHD is not checked.
The contents of the IMPORTS folder has BDMV, CERTIFICATE and PSEUDO folders present.
After pressing backup, the newly created encoded folder only has the BDMV folder present!

Also:
The imports folder starts with episode 1, then goes to the menu upon completion.
The reencoded folder starts with the main menu.
I would like to have the main menu appear first always. Is it possible to have the Imports folder start at the main menu, or is reencoding necessary to achieve this ?

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 17:08
Just repeated the missing CERTIFICATE folder. :p
I import 3 DVD compliant mpg files created from a set top DVD Recorder. These are 3 separate TV episode files.
I have "Quick-Play Backup" enabled, Strict AVCHD is not checked.
The contents of the IMPORTS folder has BDMV, CERTIFICATE and PSEUDO folders present.
After pressing backup, the newly created encoded folder only has the BDMV folder present!

Also:
The imports folder starts with episode 1, then goes to the menu upon completion.
The reencoded folder starts with the main menu.
I would like to have the main menu appear first always. Is it possible to have the Imports folder start at the main menu, or is reencoding necessary to achieve this ? Currently I start at the menu if there are more than 3 menu items present, otherwise I start with the first playlist. It shouldn't change when you reencode. I do think I'll add an option in the Import/Quick-Play Setup dialog to either start at the menu or the first item.

It's been a long time since talking about this, but if I recall correctly, generally you don't output a CERTIFICATE folder to a BD-5 or BD-9 backup -- because there are players that won't play back a DVD+-R formatted for BD if the CERTIFICATE folder exists (along with a couple of other folders). But I was thinking I only enforced it if "Strict AVCHD" was selected (the default). I'll have to go back and look.

Capsbackup
12th November 2013, 17:32
Just ran another test, this time with "Full Backup" selected and "Strict AVCHD" is not checked again.
Both Imports folder and reencoded folder has both BDMV and CERTICATE folders present.

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 17:39
Just ran another test, this time with "Full Backup" selected and "Strict AVCHD" is not checked again.
Both Imports folder and reencoded folder has both BDMV and CERTICATE folders present.Definitely confusing. Full Backup and Quick-Play backup both use the same code for the copy/rebuild. I'll look and see if something changed.

Sharc
12th November 2013, 18:46
I'm thinking that some of these reported issues may be related to changing the threshold values. Unfortunately when the threshold changes, the edits can become wrong because the list doesn't match the original. Can anyone confirm that may be the case in their report? I may have to put the threshold value into the INF file and ignore previous edits when it doesn't match.
..........
Hmmm.... that could be true in my case. IIRC I played with the threshold values .....

CERTIFICATE folder: I confirm Capsbackup's findings. Something must have changed for the Quick-Play backup Scenario.

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 19:08
CERTIFICATE folder: I confirm Capsbackup's findings. Something must have changed for the Quick-Play backup Scenario. Yes it did. I've found it and fixed it. It was a line that was meant to eliminate JAR folders, etc. that have no use in a Quick-Play backup -- and CERTIFICATE got caught in the mix. I'd forgotten it was even there.

@All
Thanks, guys. I really appreciate all the testing.

Sharc
12th November 2013, 19:29
Can you post the titles.inf file and show me what it says compared to what you were expecting? I also need to know if it was an import from BD, from DVD, or files (they each have separate import routines).
I did a Quick-Play backup from a BD and edited the menus.
The titles.inf with my edited menu text is in the \Bdmv\Backup\Playlist\ folder:
[Titles]
Title=BREAKING BAD: Season 5 Disk 2
00084=Extra 1
00098=Extra 2
00100=
00119=Tödliche Fracht
00120=Buyout
00121=Sagen Sie meinen Namen
00122=Walt Whitman
[Position]
00084=5
00098=6
00100=0
00119=1
00120=2
00121=3
00122=4
[Selected]
00084=-1
00098=-1
00100=0
00119=-1
00120=-1
00121=-1
00122=-1
As you see, I deselected the item 00100 intentionally.
Looks all ok with the exception that this disk has no corresponding playlists in the same folder, like
00084.mpls
00098.mpls
00100.mpls
00119.mpls
00120.mpls
00121.mpls
00122.mpls

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 19:44
I did a Quick-Play backup from a BD and edited the menus.
The titles.inf with my edited menu text is in the \Bdmv\Backup\Playlist\ folder:

As you see, I deselected the item 00100 intentionally.
Looks all ok with the exception that this disk has no corresponding playlists in the same folder, like
00084.mpls
00098.mpls
00100.mpls
00119.mpls
00120.mpls
00121.mpls
00122.mplsAre you saying none of those MPLS files exist in the source BDMV\PLAYLIST folder? That's where BD-RB would look for them (but, of course, per the standard there should also be a backup for each of them in the BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST folder.

Sharc
12th November 2013, 19:51
Are you saying none of those MPLS files exist in the source BDMV\PLAYLIST folder? That's where BD-RB would look for them (but, of course, per the standard there should also be a backup for each of them in the BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST folder.

Yes, exatly this is what I am saying. Neither the BDMV\PLAYLIST nor the BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST (which are identical) contains any of those MPLS. How did BD-RB "invent" those numbers ? :confused:

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 19:52
Yes, exatly this is what I am saying. Neither the BDMV\PLAYLIST nor the BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST (which are identical) contains any of those MPLS. How did BD-RB "invent" those numbers ? :confused:I have absolutely no idea. It scans the BDMV\PLAYLIST folder to create the list.

I'll have to check and see if there is any way that the titles.inf file from one source scan can somehow get saved into another. That's the only way I can imagine MPLS numbers being created out of thin air.

Sharc
12th November 2013, 20:03
I have absolutely no idea. It scans the BDMV\PLAYLIST folder to create the list.

I'll have to check and see if there is any way that the titles.inf file from one source scan can somehow get saved into another. That's the only way I can imagine MPLS numbers being created out of thin air.
It happened in 2 cases here. I'll check if I find another BD which has such playlists.

Anyway, my workaround has been to import this encoded version and rebuild the quick menu. As you wrote, the MPLS then became sequentially renumbered and all was ok.

Added:
Now I deleted the titles.inf and started allover again, not touching the menus.
Here the generated titles.inf (untouched). Same mystery.
[Titles]
Title=BD_BREAKING_BAD_S5_D2
00119=01. Feature Presentation: [00:48:03.922]
00120=02. Feature Presentation: [00:47:25.884]
00121=03. Feature Presentation: [00:47:17.876]
00122=04. Feature Presentation: [00:47:21.880]00084=05. Disc Extra: [00:15:38.687]
00098=06. Disc Extra: [00:10:14.547]
00100=07. Disc Extra: [00:12:09.295]
[Position]
00119=1
00120=2
00121=3
00122=4
00084=5
00098=6
00100=7
[Selected]
00119=-1
00120=-1
00121=-1
00122=-1
00084=-1
00098=-1
00100=-1

There must be a "Translation" error when generating the .inf textfile from the MPLS.

Added2:In case it would help:
The correct playlists for the 4 features are 00804.mpls, 00805.mpls, 00806.mpls, 00807.mpls

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 21:30
Added:
Now I deleted the titles.inf and started allover again, not touching the menus.
Here the generated titles.inf (untouched). Same mystery[/CODE]

There must be a "Translation" error when generating the .inf textfile from the MPLS.

Added2:In case it would help:
The correct playlists for the 4 features are 00804.mpls, 00805.mpls, 00806.mpls, 00807.mplsOk.. when you started over, did you IMPORT or open with Quick-Play?

There's really no translation involved. The MPLS filenames are pulled into structure -- and remain a string throughout. I'll do a couple of tests and see if I can find anything.

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 21:37
Ok.. when you started over, did you IMPORT or open with Quick-Play?

There's really no translation involved. The MPLS filenames are pulled into structure -- and remain a string throughout. I'll do a couple of tests and see if I can find anything.Well that was easy enough. The first one I tested screwed up. I'll see what's up and get a fix in.

AmigaFuture
12th November 2013, 21:45
Using Full Backup and Importing 5 MOV files.

Quick-Play shows editor. I leave the displayed file names alone. Click save.
Files are imported and AAC's are conveted to AC3. Import is finished and 3
files are showing listed in BD-RB's Stream Tab. First 2 are of the correct file size,
but the 3rd is really short. The short is the menu background. The other 3 of 5 are not in
the list.

Run PowerDVD 12, select the directory under Import, and PowerDVD displays 5 items in the menu.
Also shows correct Menu name.

Play the first file (title) and looks and sounds ok. Menu returns with next (2nd) highlighted.
Repeat through to the 5th, and each are the correct file even though it doesn't match in BD-RB.

Burning to BD-RE 50 and playing with Standalone LG player the menu looks as it does in PowerDVD 12. The video
for each looks good, but the sound has a strange gapping sound. I'll include an attached video.. There's a choppy hissing sound.

I burned the m2ts files to the BD-RE overwriting the previous disk project, as well as copied them to a Verbatim USB. A/V are okay on both.
So, for fun, I moved the files completely away from the BD-RB Import and thought to try adding them as the m2ts files they now are.

I had BD-RB exit. I deleted the Import and WORKFILES directories. Ran BD-RB, had it import the files, leaving
the Quick-Play Edit menu alone. Files Imported, and I see 2 VIDs displayed and the menu in the list. However, BD-RB has "Not Responding" so..I'll
have it exit and delete the Imports directories again and repeat. This time all imported well.

Output being used is BD-25. Import/Quick-Play Parameters are stock. I decided not to post the video clip unless requested by you. Strict AVCHD is checked but since BD-25 is selected probably not part of it. I'll try unselecting it in next tests.

New burn has same audio "gaping"..video is fine. I'll now test the thresholds some.

Edit 1: If I switch BD-RB to Movie & Menus, with Edit mode ON.. All VIDs are there including Menu with a 5 files except Menu set to be blanked. Switch off Edit Mode and only, of course, the Menu VID is displayed.

jdobbs
12th November 2013, 22:08
It happened in 2 cases here. I'll check if I find another BD which has such playlists.

Anyway, my workaround has been to import this encoded version and rebuild the quick menu. As you wrote, the MPLS then became sequentially renumbered and all was ok.

Added:
Now I deleted the titles.inf and started allover again, not touching the menus.
Here the generated titles.inf (untouched). Same mystery.
[Titles]
Title=BD_BREAKING_BAD_S5_D2
00119=01. Feature Presentation: [00:48:03.922]
00120=02. Feature Presentation: [00:47:25.884]
00121=03. Feature Presentation: [00:47:17.876]
00122=04. Feature Presentation: [00:47:21.880]00084=05. Disc Extra: [00:15:38.687]
00098=06. Disc Extra: [00:10:14.547]
00100=07. Disc Extra: [00:12:09.295]
[Position]
00119=1
00120=2
00121=3
00122=4
00084=5
00098=6
00100=7
[Selected]
00119=-1
00120=-1
00121=-1
00122=-1
00084=-1
00098=-1
00100=-1

There must be a "Translation" error when generating the .inf textfile from the MPLS.

Added2:In case it would help:
The correct playlists for the 4 features are 00804.mpls, 00805.mpls, 00806.mpls, 00807.mplsMy mistake, I wasn't thinking. I was just reminded when I started reviewing the code that those references aren't the MPLS numbers. They are the position of the MPLS in the scanned order. It has to be done that way because of the possibility of multiple sources (e.g. during import) when MPLSs might often have identical names.

Sharc
12th November 2013, 22:36
My mistake, I wasn't thinking. I was just reminded when I started reviewing the code that those references aren't the MPLS numbers. They are the position of the MPLS in the scanned order. It has to be done that way because of the possibility of multiple sources (e.g. during import) when MPLSs might often have identical names.
So nothing wrong then, and my reported menu problems have possibly all been caused by changing the thresholds along the menu creation route?

gonca
12th November 2013, 22:51
Wow is that US or CDN?! ;)

Nice. BTW I have had some odd problems with using TMT3 to test my BD-RB backups, such as listing all subtitle and audio tracks as English. So I'm not surprised it makes mistakes with the new features.

I also have TMT5 and TMT6 that I've never installed but I guess they are broken too? Only PowerDVD11 works reliably?

US but the two currencies are close to par anyway.

TMT 6 doesn't like BD_RB menus.
PowerDVD 13 is good. According to jdobbs 11 is also good.
Sony 550 standalone is good with the menus also.

laserfan
13th November 2013, 00:14
US but the two currencies are close to par anyway.
Just teasing, and bumping your generous $100 donation to remind others to contribute. And your locale caught my eye as I have very fond memories from my several trips to Toronto. I love Canada and [most of] its people.

:)

TMT 6 doesn't like BD_RB menus.
PowerDVD 13 is good. According to jdobbs 11 is also good.
Sony 550 standalone is good with the menus also.
Thanks, I might have to invest in PDVD (again).

;)

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 00:15
US but the two currencies are close to par anyway.

TMT 6 doesn't like BD_RB menus.
PowerDVD 13 is good. According to jdobbs 11 is also good.
Sony 550 standalone is good with the menus also. As I said, I'm really confident that the menus follow the BD standard. Nothing is impossible -- but I was very careful in the way they are structured. So if the text, editor, or the content has issues I'm not that surprised -- because there is a lot of new code there, but if something can't play it I strongly suspect the player.

RobertM
13th November 2013, 00:24
I have very fond memories from my several trips to Toronto.

Peter Ustinov used to say the Toronto was like NY City but run by the Swiss. Now he'd probably say it was "under new management" ;)

AmigaFuture
13th November 2013, 00:51
An update. I'm using BD-RB to convert some BD-RB made Alternative MKVs and converting the AC-3's to AAC's while keeping video intact. I'll report soon if those are have the same "choppy" sound soon with my LG player.

After reading the updated thread, this "bug?" may have been corrected for the next release.


With respect to Canada, it's pretty Awesome. They have an awesome band that's not in a hurry, though their name suggests differently, that makes brilliant music and lyrics.

gonca
13th November 2013, 00:54
I love Canada and [most of] its people.

I know what you mean.

gonca
13th November 2013, 00:58
Peter Ustinov used to say the Toronto was like NY City but run by the Swiss. Now he'd probably say it was "under new management" ;)

Talking about our mayor are you. Why should the US have all the political comedians? ;)

gonca
13th November 2013, 01:00
As I said, I'm really confident that the menus follow the BD standard. Nothing is impossible -- but I was very careful in the way they are structured. So if the text, editor, or the content has issues I'm not that surprised -- because there is a lot of new code there, but if something can't play it I strongly suspect the player.

Hardware player --- no problem
PD 11 + 13 --- no problem
TMT --- problem

Money is on the issue being in TMT

Sorry for the previous OTs

gonca
13th November 2013, 01:02
An update. I'm using BD-RB to convert some BD-RB made Alternative MKVs and converting the AC-3's to AAC's while keeping video intact. I'll report soon if those are have the same "choppy" sound soon with my LG player.

After reading the updated thread, this "bug?" may have been corrected for the next release.


With respect to Canada, it's pretty Awesome. They have an awesome band that's not in a hurry, though their name suggests differently, that makes brilliant music and lyrics.

Rush is a pretty decent rock band.

RobertM
13th November 2013, 01:16
Talking about our mayor are you. Why should the US have all the political comedians? ;)

Actually, I previously thought that it was a toss-up between your Mayor and our Mayor in the 'Most Embarrassing Canadian Mayor' contest (we're just a couple of hours down the 401 from you guys). But your guy is well in the lead now. Congrats!

Bit OT though, so I'll stop now. ;)

Snarko
13th November 2013, 03:14
Nothing changed there from previous versions. I think you may be missing something, but I'd need more information.

When using the new import/basic menu & authoring function to import various MakeMKV-created files from various DVDs (or, just the AnyDVD rip of the whole disc) and upsizing to 720p (to get around the 480p24p and AR limitations the Blu-ray specs have), it always uses Spline16Resize in the avs script, ignoring the setting in the .ini. Seems to happen regardless of IVTC, DGDecNV, etc.

gonca
13th November 2013, 03:24
When using the new import/basic menu & authoring function to import various MakeMKV-created files from various DVDs (or, just the AnyDVD rip of the whole disc) and upsizing to 720p (to get around the 480p24p and AR limitations the Blu-ray specs have), it always uses Spline16Resize in the avs script, ignoring the setting in the .ini. Seems to happen regardless of IVTC, DGDecNV, etc.

Presently doing a season of a show on DVD
Resizing to 1080
Output to BD
LanczosResize selected in INI and it is being used according to the avisynth script
post your ini

AmigaFuture
13th November 2013, 03:49
Rush is a pretty decent rock band.

They're not really a rock or progressive rock band, but pretty decent? No worries. I'm having fun with you. I don't care at all what RNR Hall Of Fame says.


Anyway, to BD-RB... Ahhh!! I nailed it! Importing something from an iPad (2) or iPhone (5) from any Mode other than Movie-Only Backup with the new Quick-Play results in an interesting audio "jerking". To get around it, I have to FIRST Select Movie-Only Backup and Alternately output with Intact Video and have audio converted to AC-3 in MKV.

Edit: It's the Importing causing it..not Quick-Play.

Workaround: Which bypasses the AAC to AC-3 from the Quick-Play Import. Once they're converted and in MKV container that way, select whatever mode other than Movie-Only Backup and it seems Quick-Play is handling the Imported files without the "jerky" sound AND the Playlist Playing and accepting Editing well. Standalone player..I haven't used PDID 12 for these tests.

I went back to 44.06 as well as the newest version (45.03) to check on the Importing feature. Hmm...I didn't test Import well enough before.

I hope this helps, JD.

Kerry56
13th November 2013, 05:57
Used four dvds to make a new blu ray compilation through the Quick Play import in version 45.03. The menu will not play in PowerDVD 12, WinDVD 11, TMT 5 or TMT 6.

The individual m2ts files play ok in most players, including VLC, but the Arcsoft players don't do well with them even on an individual basis. Playback is jerky with them.

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 06:18
Used four dvds to make a new blu ray compilation through the Quick Play import in version 45.03. The menu will not play in PowerDVD 12, WinDVD 11, TMT 5 or TMT 6.

The individual m2ts files play ok in most players, including VLC, but the Arcsoft players don't do well with them even on an individual basis. Playback is jerky with them. I'd start looking at settings etc. I've done a LOT of discs in testing and they all play fine.

Kerry56
13th November 2013, 07:36
Here is the log file:

[19:30:41] Importing DVD: BOURNE_TETRALOGY
- Processing DVD title [1 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [2 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [3 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [4 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[19:45:51] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[11/12/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.03 (beta)
[19:50:11] Source: BOURNE_TETRALOGY
- Input BD size: 17.82 GB
- Approximate total content: [07:57:10.718]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quick-Play Reauthoring mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), CRF
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:50:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:50:11] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 4)
- [19:50:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [19:53:23] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- [19:53:23] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [19:53:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:53:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:54:34] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 4)
- [19:54:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [19:57:41] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [19:57:41] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [19:57:41] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:57:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:58:38] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 4)
- [19:58:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [20:01:34] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- [20:01:34] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [20:01:34] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [20:01:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:02:32] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 4)
- [20:02:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [20:05:45] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- [20:05:45] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [20:05:45] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [20:05:45] Multiplexing M2TS
[20:06:38]PHASE ONE complete
[20:06:38]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [20:06:38] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [20:06:38] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[20:06:44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[20:06:44] JOB: BOURNE_TETRALOGY finished.

There is no re-encoding going on, just re-authoring to blu ray and building the menu.

All of the various players on my computer can play commercial blu ray, and blu ray created by Adobe Encore, Easy BD Lite or DVD2BD Express with no issues. I've done this same compilation before, using AVStoDVD to build an oversized dvd, then authored to blu ray in DVD2BD, and that one works fine.

Sharc
13th November 2013, 08:38
Will deselecting an item in the Quick-Play menu editor only remove the menu button, or will it also exclude (remove) the corresponding video file(s) from the authoring process?

Sharc
13th November 2013, 10:44
@jdobbs
When I open a Quick-Play authored BD (ROM) in BD-RB via "Browse" I can go to the Menu Editor and make changes to the Quick menu.
When I now press "Save and Continue" it looks as if my changes became effective and I can proceed with "Backup" without a warning. Because the modified titles.inf cannot be written to the ROM (as I understand it the modified titles.inf is not saved to anywhere in this case?) I suggest that there should be an error message or a hint that one has to IMPORT the BD ROM in order to make any changes to the menu.
Maybe this is just too obvious or I have missed something, but if something can go wrong it will ....

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 15:32
Will deselecting an item in the Quick-Play menu editor only remove the menu button, or will it also exclude (remove) the corresponding video file(s) from the authoring process? It removes it from the authoring process completely.

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 15:36
@jdobbs
When I open a Quick-Play authored BD (ROM) in BD-RB via "Browse" I can go to the Menu Editor and make changes to the Quick menu.
When I now press "Save and Continue" it looks as if my changes became effective and I can proceed with "Backup" without a warning. Because the modified titles.inf cannot be written to the ROM (as I understand it the modified titles.inf is not saved to anywhere in this case?) I suggest that there should be an error message or a hint that one has to IMPORT the BD ROM in order to make any changes to the menu.
Maybe this is just too obvious or I have missed something, but if something can go wrong it will .... Because BD-RB can't write to the ROM the changes aren't saved. But they are kept in local memory and are used if you run the job before closing & reopening BD-RB. So if you edit, and then run immediately it should be ok.

I should probably give a warning, or possibly save the titles.inf file in the working folder until a new title is selected.

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 15:42
Here is the log file:

[19:30:41] Importing DVD: BOURNE_TETRALOGY
- Processing DVD title [1 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [2 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [3 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [4 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[19:45:51] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[11/12/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.03 (beta)
[19:50:11] Source: BOURNE_TETRALOGY
- Input BD size: 17.82 GB
- Approximate total content: [07:57:10.718]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quick-Play Reauthoring mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), CRF
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:50:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:50:11] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 4)
- [19:50:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [19:53:23] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- [19:53:23] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [19:53:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:53:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:54:34] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 4)
- [19:54:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [19:57:41] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [19:57:41] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [19:57:41] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:57:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:58:38] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 4)
- [19:58:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [20:01:34] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- [20:01:34] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [20:01:34] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [20:01:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:02:32] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 4)
- [20:02:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [20:05:45] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- [20:05:45] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [20:05:45] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [20:05:45] Multiplexing M2TS
[20:06:38]PHASE ONE complete
[20:06:38]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [20:06:38] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [20:06:38] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[20:06:44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[20:06:44] JOB: BOURNE_TETRALOGY finished.

There is no re-encoding going on, just re-authoring to blu ray and building the menu.

All of the various players on my computer can play commercial blu ray, and blu ray created by Adobe Encore, Easy BD Lite or DVD2BD Express with no issues. I've done this same compilation before, using AVStoDVD to build an oversized dvd, then authored to blu ray in DVD2BD, and that one works fine. I've tested it in PowerDVD and four different brands of standalone players with no issues. Have you tried it on a standalone player? Software players just aren't a good test because they are so notorious for bugs. That's why I generally don't accept bug reports from software players. But, I do know the menu works with PowerDVD -- which is why I suggested that there may be something with your settings or the source. Can you run INSPECT and post the results?

One thing I know for sure is that the DVD source can't be MPEG-1 (because it isn't supported in BD). But MPEG-1 based DVDs are exceptionally rare -- and usually not commercial.

I'm not familiar with BOURNE_TETRALOGY. Is it just the BOURNE DVDs combined? If it's not too expensive I'll see if I can find it.

Kerry56
13th November 2013, 15:54
Bourne Tetralogy is my term for the four Bourne movies...The Bourne Identity, The Bourne Supremacy, The Bourne Ultimatum and The Bourne Legacy. You won't find the complete set sold commercially under that name.

All four movies are bog standard mpeg2/ac3. All of the original files play in any player you want to try them in. All were ripped using AnyDVD HD.

Here is the Inspect snapshot you wanted:
13853

I have not burned this to a disc to try in a stand alone player, but I use an HTPC rather than a blu ray player and getting access to one is a problem.

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 16:10
I have those on BD but now DVD. I don't want to have to buy all of them, but I'll pick up one or two of them and give it a try later today. If I'm luck I might find the older ones on the discount rack.

Did you try it more than once?

What happens when you try to play it? Nothing? Blank screen? Backdrop w/no titles? Titles w/no action?


@ALL
Is anyone having any problems playing back Quick-Play menus on a standalone (real) Blu-ray player?

Sharc
13th November 2013, 16:33
Because BD-RB can't write to the ROM the changes aren't saved. But they are kept in local memory and are used if you run the job before closing & reopening BD-RB. So if you edit, and then run immediately it should be ok.
.....

Good to know, thanks. This is convenient.
Now it seems that the disk is getting fully reencoded even though it already fits the target and I only made changes to the Quick menu. I would assume that most of the .m2ts files could simply be copied (?). Is it because the files are no longer available in the WORKFILES folder?

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 16:35
Good to know, thanks. This is convenient.
Now it seems that the disk is getting fully reencoded even though it already fits the target and I only made changes to the Quick menu. I would assume that most of the .m2ts files could simply be copied (?). Is it because the files are no longer available in the WORKFILES folder? It's probably because it is multi-part and the one or more of the component files are referenced in another playlist.

That's something I have to work on.

Sharc
13th November 2013, 16:57
It's probably because it is multi-part and the one or more of the component files are referenced in another playlist.

That's something I have to work on.
I see. It is more complicated than I thought.
So for the time being when I see that it is getting re-encoded it is probably better to start from scratch, since the re-encoding of already encoded material will have a slightly negative impact on the final quality.

Capsbackup
13th November 2013, 17:09
I have not burned this to a disc to try in a stand alone player, but I use an HTPC rather than a blu ray player and getting access to one is a problem.

Unfortunately, HTPC and software players are not good options when playing back BD-RB created backups. :(
I like testing on software players before burning to disc, but using the quick play menu creation in BD-RB appears to not be very compatible for this for me too! :devil:

And I am not really interested in buying anymore software players! ;)

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 17:34
Unfortunately, HTPC and software players are not good options when playing back BD-RB created backups. :(
I like testing on software players before burning to disc, but using the quick play menu creation in BD-RB appears to not be very compatible for this for me too! :devil:

And I am not really interested in buying anymore software players! ;) My opinion is similar, but I would amend this to say "Unfortunately, HTPC and software players are not good options." and leave it at that. I could probably buy one of those packages and put workarounds into BD-RB to make it work with them... but I shouldn't have to.

If someone points out issues with a commercial standalone player, then I usually assume BD-RB has a problem.

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 17:39
I see. It is more complicated than I thought.
So for the time being when I see that it is getting re-encoded it is probably better to start from scratch, since the re-encoding of already encoded material will have a slightly negative impact on the final quality.I'm trying to figure out a way to scan for size across all references without adding an inordinate amount of time to the scan -- but that's difficult on sources that have a couple of hundred M2TS files that are referenced in a couple of hundred MPLSs. In the meantime BD-RB just says "Trying to investigate all these iterations is just too much work, the odds are good that I have to reencode -- so do it."

If you IMPORT rather than do a Quick-Play backup you'll never have cross referenced playlists -- but, you also lose multiple angles, language directed playlists, etc.

Sharc
13th November 2013, 18:40
@ALL
Is anyone having any problems playing back Quick-Play menus on a standalone (real) Blu-ray player?
Not with the menus as such (unless I messed something up with intermediate threshold changes).
However, I do experience random freeze during playback. It is not reproducible frame-accurate, and it depends on the playback sequence and switching sequence between chapters.
I suspected a bad burn, however it happens on 2 disks and I never had such effects before, so a bad burn seems a bit unlikely but I wouldn't totally exclude it.
I do my backups on BD9 rather than BD25, and I am not sure if my standalone (SONY BDP-S360) has issues in general with blu-ray structure with menus on BD9. I never had problems with Movie Only backups, and those few which I have done with "Movie and Menu" were normally ok with very few exceptions.
I need to do more tests, so just in case someone else has experienced occasional freezing as well ....

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 18:49
Not with the menus as such (unless I messed something up with intermediate threshold changes).
However, I do experience random freeze during playback. It is not reproducible frame-accurate, and it depends on the playback sequence and switching sequence between chapters.
I suspected a bad burn, however it happens on 2 disks and I never had such effects before, so a bad burn seems a bit unlikely but I wouldn't totally exclude it.
I do my backups on BD9 rather than BD25, and I am not sure if my standalone (SONY BDP-S360) has issues in general with blu-ray structure with menus on BD9. I never had problems with Movie Only backups, and those few which I have done with "Movie and Menu" were normally ok with very few exceptions.
I need to do more tests, so just in case someone else has experienced occasional freezing as well .... A random freeze during playback sounds more like media issues. Also, all muxing is done by TSMUXER (whether movie-only or full backup) and it does it exactly the same way in Quick-Play as it does with movie-only or full backup. So if there was an issue it wouldn't be related to Quick-Play or the menus.

My BDP-S360 does a pretty good job with BD-9 -- the only issue I remember having is with backups containing DTS Express on secondary tracks.

Hmm... I just remembered something though. When I use an original BD disc's video for a menu backdrop, I keep it intact. That could be an issue for a BD-5/9 because of the bitrate... I'd better look at that.

Sharc
13th November 2013, 18:58
A random freeze during playback sounds more like media issues. Also, all muxing is done by TSMUXER (whether movie-only or full backup) and it does it exactly the same way in Quick-Play as it does with movie-only or full backup. So if there was an issue it wouldn't be related to Quick-Play or the menus.

My BDP-S360 does a pretty good job with BD-9 -- the only issue I remember having is with backups containing DTS Express on secondary tracks.
My thoughts. The medium is definitely a candidate, or burner or reader (standalone) approaching end of life.
Good to know that S360 is fine with BD-9.

setarip_old
13th November 2013, 19:24
Using BD-RB v.0.44.16.

Trying to make a BD9 (including only English streams) of Disc 1 of "Man of Steel". Smallest size I'm able to create is 10.8Gb.

Are there any hidden or other default settings that need to be selected or deselected to allow for further compression?

Kerry56
13th November 2013, 19:30
I have those on BD but now DVD. I don't want to have to buy all of them, but I'll pick up one or two of them and give it a try later today. If I'm luck I might find the older ones on the discount rack.

Did you try it more than once?

What happens when you try to play it? Nothing? Blank screen? Backdrop w/no titles? Titles w/no action?


@ALL
Is anyone having any problems playing back Quick-Play menus on a standalone (real) Blu-ray player?

The blu ray movie output using the Quick play menu does different things in different software players. In the Arcsoft programs, the players try to start but hang up, and I have to use Ctl Alt Del to shut them down. There is no sign of the menu, just a blank screen. WinDVD and PowerDVD simply say that it is incompatible media.

I have tried recompiling it, but no change in the way the software players work with it. I also tried making an ISO with ImgBurn and mounting that, but again, there is no difference in the way the players react.

I'll try again using blu ray sources and see if there are any differences in the behavior of the software players.

Sharc
13th November 2013, 19:34
.....
Hmm... I just remembered something though. When I use an original BD disc's video for a menu backdrop, I keep it intact. That could be an issue for a BD-5/9 because of the bitrate... I'd better look at that.
Good point indeed!
I just checked the bitrate of the menu video with DGIndexNV: it indicates a Bitrate(max) of 30.873Mbps, and an average of 18.144 Mbps. This looks indeed too high for BD5/9. Means probably that the menu video has to be compressed.

Actually the freezing in my case depends from where during the menu playback I switch to the movie. Wouldn't this be an indication of a bitrate or buffer problem?

g00g
13th November 2013, 19:41
As my backup order is always the same (first Movie Only backup von DVD-RB and afterwards Import to BD-RB) I checked all previous done Imports to BD-RB and all backups are OK but the latest ones (starts with BD-RB Version 0.44.17).

Tested BD-RB Version 0.45.03 with several DVDs. Actually any video- and audio-stream of the tested DVDs has been in sync but one. The only difference I could figure out is, that the one not working has primary and secondary subtitles and a primary subtitle is activated at start.

AmigaFuture
13th November 2013, 20:49
@ALL
Is anyone having any problems playing back Quick-Play menus on a standalone (real) Blu-ray player?

All of my tests, so far, have shown the Quick-Play menu on my LG BD590 fine. I've not done enough to possibly get more than 1 page, but that's coming.

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 21:03
Using BD-RB v.0.44.16.

Trying to make a BD9 (including only English streams) of Disc 1 of "Man of Steel". Smallest size I'm able to create is 10.8Gb.

Are there any hidden or other default settings that need to be selected or deselected to allow for further compression? Is it possible the audio is the limiting factor? There really shouldn't be any other limitation.

Why v0.44.16 rather than a current version?

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 21:05
All of my tests, so far, have shown the Quick-Play menu on my LG BD590 fine. I've not done enough to possibly get more than 1 page, but that's coming.It never does more than 1 page. It will do up to 64 items (all on one page). If it gets higher than than that, it skips the menu. I figured that even if the items only average 15 minutes long, 64 items would still represent 16 hours of video.

At some point in the future I plan to add multi-page capability along with the use of selectable graphic button images rather than text.

AmigaFuture
13th November 2013, 21:17
@ JDobbs

Thank you for that info. I won't have BD-RB import enough to cause that then. Also, nice to know about future plans.

Merely curious, I know you're really focused on the Quick-Play displaying/functioning well.. So I don't expect any real focus, these days, on my MOV Import posts. Just want to know if you saw them..? Thank you.

Sharc
13th November 2013, 21:22
Using BD-RB v.0.44.16.

Trying to make a BD9 (including only English streams) of Disc 1 of "Man of Steel". Smallest size I'm able to create is 10.8Gb.

Are there any hidden or other default settings that need to be selected or deselected to allow for further compression?
I did MAN OF STEEL on BD9 without problems as Movie Only with 2 x AC3/640 + 2 x SUP. I resized to 1440x1080, High Quality (Default), One Pass CRF, and the resulting crf became 21.9.

jdobbs
13th November 2013, 21:46
@ JDobbs

Thank you for that info. I won't have BD-RB import enough to cause that then. Also, nice to know about future plans.

Merely curious, I know you're really focused on the Quick-Play displaying/functioning well.. So I don't expect any real focus, these days, on my MOV Import posts. Just want to know if you saw them..? Thank you. Yes, I saw it. What is the source of those MOV files? I've done quite a few videos that I recorded on my iPhone in testing and I didn't see anything odd about the result. The audio is PCM from the source -- but that should convert fine to AC3. If it is 44.1K sampled it needs to be converted to 48K samples -- but that's no big deal.

As for the Quicktime player -- ugghh, I couldn't imagine a poorer performing player for the PC. I don't think I've ever used it without stutter or problems of some type.

Maybe you could forward a short example that has issues?

Kerry56
13th November 2013, 22:23
More testing done. Thinking there might be some incompatibilities between PowerDVD 12 and Windows 8.1, I downloaded the trial version of PowerDVD 13. The Bourne blu ray movie works in this player as it should, with the first play being the menu. All the titles seem to work, as well as the chapters.

I made a second test movie, this time making a 50gb blu ray and using the movies Blade Runner and Moon as input. The originals are blu ray source. This second movie plays in both Arcsoft TMT 5 and PowerDVD 13, but the menu doesn't show up. It simply starts with the first title in both those players. It is possible to select the other title from within TMT 5, and it is possible to access the menu in PowerDVD 13 once it starts playing the first title.

So playback in the major software players is a bit hit or miss.

gonca
13th November 2013, 23:12
I have those on BD but now DVD. I don't want to have to buy all of them, but I'll pick up one or two of them and give it a try later today. If I'm luck I might find the older ones on the discount rack.

Did you try it more than once?

What happens when you try to play it? Nothing? Blank screen? Backdrop w/no titles? Titles w/no action?


@ALL
Is anyone having any problems playing back Quick-Play menus on a standalone (real) Blu-ray player?

I have 3 out 4 on DVD as well. If you want I can run a test encode for you. Just tell me what settings,or a copy of an ini, to use

AmigaFuture
13th November 2013, 23:16
Yes, I saw it. What is the source of those MOV files? I've done quite a few videos that I recorded on my iPhone in testing and I didn't see anything odd about the result. The audio is PCM from the source -- but that should convert fine to AC3. If it is 44.1K sampled it needs to be converted to 48K samples -- but that's no big deal.

As for the Quicktime player -- ugghh, I couldn't imagine a poorer performing player for the PC. I don't think I've ever used it without stutter or problems of some type.

Maybe you could forward a short example that has issues?

Source's are iPad 2; Windows Media Player Classic shows this:
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 29.97fps 10418kbps [Video]
Audio: AAC 44100Hz mono 63kbps [Audio]

For one of the files. The video and audio play well with my LG Player when burned to a BD-RE DL as a data disk or USB flash drive. AFTER each file file has been converted to MKV from MOV with BD-RB's Alternate Output with AC-3.

When Importing the MKV's the audio plays as should with my LG player. When Imported (before converting to MKV) from MOV and burned, there's an interesting audio "stutter" effect. I'll get some video ready for you and email...

I don't use QuickTime as a Player or editor (not even close to my preferred choice). All QuickTime extensions are assigned to Media Player Classic: Home Cinema (64-bit). Or I use VLC. I have QuickTime installed for use with iTunes an M4V - MP4 files for use with iDevices, you get the idea.

setarip_old
14th November 2013, 00:42
@Sharc

Thanks for your response, however, (Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I could have been) although I too had no problem making a movie only BD9 of "The Man of Steel", the problem arose when trying to make a FULL DISC copy.

Any thoughts and/or suggestions will be greatly appreciated ;>}

setarip_old
14th November 2013, 00:45
@jdobbs Why v0.44.16 rather than a current version?I've been occupied with personal matters and have not been able to devote much time to my favorite hobby, BD-RB ;>}


Is it possible the audio is the limiting factor? Yes - What can I do to adjust the audio, while using v.0.44.16?

jdobbs
14th November 2013, 00:59
More testing done. Thinking there might be some incompatibilities between PowerDVD 12 and Windows 8.1, I downloaded the trial version of PowerDVD 13. The Bourne blu ray movie works in this player as it should, with the first play being the menu. All the titles seem to work, as well as the chapters.

I made a second test movie, this time making a 50gb blu ray and using the movies Blade Runner and Moon as input. The originals are blu ray source. This second movie plays in both Arcsoft TMT 5 and PowerDVD 13, but the menu doesn't show up. It simply starts with the first title in both those players. It is possible to select the other title from within TMT 5, and it is possible to access the menu in PowerDVD 13 once it starts playing the first title.

So playback in the major software players is a bit hit or miss. If there is only one title there will be no menu? If there are fewer than 3 titles it starts on the first title and you have to choose MENU from the remote to see it (although that's changing in the next release).

Sharc
14th November 2013, 13:49
Yes - What can I do to adjust the audio, while using v.0.44.16?
Did you choose to re-encode the audio track to AC3 (448kbps), or did you leave the audio intact?

andref4
14th November 2013, 15:45
@ jdobbs

found a bug by creating 3d (mkv).

if automatically crop black borders is enabled, enconding wont start and process stops.
if automatically crop black borders is disabled, encoding process works fine.

would be nice if you can fix this in upcoming bd rebuilder version.

many thx and kind regards from germany
andref4

jdobbs
14th November 2013, 17:05
Source's are iPad 2; Windows Media Player Classic shows this:
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 29.97fps 10418kbps [Video]
Audio: AAC 44100Hz mono 63kbps [Audio]

For one of the files. The video and audio play well with my LG Player when burned to a BD-RE DL as a data disk or USB flash drive. AFTER each file file has been converted to MKV from MOV with BD-RB's Alternate Output with AC-3.

When Importing the MKV's the audio plays as should with my LG player. When Imported (before converting to MKV) from MOV and burned, there's an interesting audio "stutter" effect. I'll get some video ready for you and email...

I don't use QuickTime as a Player or editor (not even close to my preferred choice). All QuickTime extensions are assigned to Media Player Classic: Home Cinema (64-bit). Or I use VLC. I have QuickTime installed for use with iTunes an M4V - MP4 files for use with iDevices, you get the idea. It turns out that the issue exists because the video was 1280x720 @ 29.97fps -- which is an illegal BD format. During video imports BD-RB is supposed to catch that kind of thing and make adjustments. It missed that one. I've added code so that the input is resized (during reencode) to 1920x1080@29.97 (which is a legal format). The other option would have been to change the frame rate to 59.94fps -- but I think that would be a less optimal solution.

jdobbs
14th November 2013, 17:49
@ jdobbs

found a bug by creating 3d (mkv).

if automatically crop black borders is enabled, enconding wont start and process stops.
if automatically crop black borders is disabled, encoding process works fine.

would be nice if you can fix this in upcoming bd rebuilder version.

many thx and kind regards from germany
andref4I tested it. There's really nothing I can do other than preventing the use of autocropping with 3D. The AutoCrop function causes an access violation when the source is 3D. I have no idea why, but I suspect it is related to DirectshowMVCSource() -- since I know it can generate that same error when its path doesn't contain a certain character sequence. Both DirectshowMVCSource() and AutoCrop() are developed by a 3d party.

You may be able to do the crop manually with a filter. But it gets complicated keeping the aspect ratio right, since ALTERNATE output is set to a fixed height & width based on the ALTERNATE.TXT settings. It's not impossible, but you'd need to create a custom output format (actually you'd have to do that even if AutoCrop worked).

HWK
14th November 2013, 19:58
I tested it. There's really nothing I can do other than preventing the use of autocropping with 3D. The AutoCrop function causes an access violation when the source is 3D. I have no idea why, but I suspect it is related to DirectshowMVCSource() -- since I know it can generate that same error when its path doesn't contain a certain character sequence. Both DirectshowMVCSource() and AutoCrop() are developed by a 3d party.

You may be able to do the crop manually with a filter. But it gets complicated keeping the aspect ratio right, since ALTERNATE output is set to a fixed height & width based on the ALTERNATE.TXT settings. It's not impossible, but you'd need to create a custom output format (actually you'd have to do that even if AutoCrop worked).

Just my two cents, I have used directshowmvcsource with autocrop in past and it didn't cause any problem or lead to unexpected behavior for me. However I created monoscopic frame for further processing.

setarip_old
14th November 2013, 20:02
@Sharc Did you choose to re-encode the audio track to AC3 (448kbps), or did you leave the audio intact?I did NOT choose to re-encode the audio track to .AC3 - Because, if I remember correctly, if making a BD9, BD-RB AUTOMATICALLY re-encodes HD audio to .AC3 (640kbps)...

AmigaFuture
14th November 2013, 21:03
It turns out that the issue exists because the video was 1280x720 @ 29.97fps -- which is an illegal BD format. During video imports BD-RB is supposed to catch that kind of thing and make adjustments. It missed that one. I've added code so that the input is resized (during reencode) to 1920x1080@29.97 (which is a legal format). The other option would have been to change the frame rate to 59.94fps -- but I think that would be a less optimal solution.

I was really hoping the video would be left alone as to not degrade it any further. Even though iPad 2+ use a higher resolution, the actual quality isn't as good as it could be. If it were, though, a lot more data would be used on already small storage space. Mine is 64GB. I thought 1280x720 is legal for Blu-ray, but I knew 29.96fps isn't. I doubted there would be a way to change the FPS without reencoding. Still there was hope. :D Which explains why some other programs I tried making Blu-ray or AVCHD's with always reencoded.

Now I'm really curious and don't get something... Windows Media Player Classic shows this:

Original MOV: Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 29.97fps 10326kbps [Video]
Audio: AAC 44100Hz mono 63kbps [Audio]

Converted to m2ts during Import: Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 29.97fps [Video]
Audio: Dolby AC3 44100Hz stereo 192kbps [Audio]
Only the audio was changed.

From there clicked "Backup" and created Alternate MKV: Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 29.97fps [Video]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo 192kbps [Audio]

Then copied both M2TS and MKV to the directory of my originals. Exited (for testing) BD-RB, and deleted the Imports and MKV from the Working Path.

Then loaded BD-RB again, Imported the M2TS and MKV then burned the resulting output and played with my LG player. The M2TS import produced the "stuttering" sound, but when switching, Disc Menu and Selecting, the 2nd, from MKV, played just as the original..without "Stutter". So, it seems the video 1280x720 is okay and I see 2 changes in the audio. Mono to Stereo and frequency changes that SEEM to have something to do with it. Perhaps a bug unnoticed as of, yet? A lot of wondering here. Is my LG player playing fine...something that should be illegal in the audio and not the video?

jdobbs
14th November 2013, 22:40
Just my two cents, I have used directshowmvcsource with autocrop in past and it didn't cause any problem or lead to unexpected behavior for me. However I created monoscopic frame for further processing.I tried it with and then without, and the only change was commenting out the AutoCrop() line. It worked when commented out, it failed when it wasn't. That doesn't leave a lot to chance.

jdobbs
14th November 2013, 22:47
I was really hoping the video would be left alone as to not degrade it any further. Even though iPad 2+ use a higher resolution, the actual quality isn't as good as it could be. If it were, though, a lot more data would be used on already small storage space. Mine is 64GB. I thought 1280x720 is legal for Blu-ray, but I knew 29.96fps isn't. I doubted there would be a way to change the FPS without reencoding. Still there was hope. :D Which explains why some other programs I tried making Blu-ray or AVCHD's with always reencoded.

Now I'm really curious and don't get something... Windows Media Player Classic shows this:

Original MOV: Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 29.97fps 10326kbps [Video]
Audio: AAC 44100Hz mono 63kbps [Audio]

Converted to m2ts during Import: Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 29.97fps [Video]
Audio: Dolby AC3 44100Hz stereo 192kbps [Audio]
Only the audio was changed.

From there clicked "Backup" and created Alternate MKV: Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 29.97fps [Video]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo 192kbps [Audio]

Then copied both M2TS and MKV to the directory of my originals. Exited (for testing) BD-RB, and deleted the Imports and MKV from the Working Path.

Then loaded BD-RB again, Imported the M2TS and MKV then burned the resulting output and played with my LG player. The M2TS import produced the "stuttering" sound, but when switching, Disc Menu and Selecting, the 2nd, from MKV, played just as the original..without "Stutter". So, it seems the video 1280x720 is okay and I see 2 changes in the audio. Mono to Stereo and frequency changes that SEEM to have something to do with it. Perhaps a bug unnoticed as of, yet? A lot of wondering here. Is my LG player playing fine...something that should be illegal in the audio and not the video? All I can say is the example you gave me plays back fine on my SAMSUNG player after importing and encoding, even without the changes (both audio and video are fine). But that's probably because the player is loose with the standard. Strictly speaking it shouldn't play the 720p@29.97fps at all, no matter what. But... it is fine for MKV -- and might playback fine as an MKV even on the same player.

It's possible that BD-RB made a mistake when converting to stereo -- but I also know that MPC is wrong a lot when it reports audio types so I wouldn't make a bet either way. I see MPC reporting stereo as 6 channels all the time. I'll look at the AAC->AC3 reencode and see what's up.

It is possible to change a framerate from 29.97fps to 59.94fps without reencoding using pulldown/rff flags. But it doesn't work very well on blu-ray or with TSMUXER.

I wouldn't worry about reencoding. With the kind of bitrate you will typically get on this kind of backup, you're getting a virtually lossless backup even with reencoding.

HWK
14th November 2013, 23:10
I tried it with and then without, and the only change was commenting out the AutoCrop() line. It worked when commented out, it failed when it wasn't. That doesn't leave a lot to chance.

Hmm, I must have overlooked something. Let me try again and see what happens, in the meantime I am assuming your output is side by side and resize is done within script.

Also if not to much of hassle can you post avisynth script related to this. I really want to compare this with mine and see what is happening.

[Update] I just tried again and yes indeed it doesn't play nice with directshowmvcsource plugin. However I use different decoder ssifsource2, but labaled as ssifsource3 and so far autocrop worked since I am encoding right know.

[Update2] Jdobbs, this script works for me give it a try and let me know if it works for you as well.



LoadPlugin("D:\BD-RBV04502\BD_Rebuilder\stereoplayer.exe\SsifSource2.dll")

LoadPlugin("D:\BD-RBV04502\BD_Rebuilder\tools\autocrop.dll")

VIEW1=SsifSource3("J:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00950.ssif; 187800", avc_view = true, mvc_view = false)

VIEW2=SsifSource3("J:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00950.ssif; 187800", avc_view = false, mvc_view = true)

StackHorizontal(VIEW1,VIEW2).BicubicResize(1920,1080)

ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

Autocrop(Mode=0)



X264 encoder working as it should and I also viewed the result of output from encoder.

http://s24.postimg.org/adf0l8h51/Screenshot.jpg

AmigaFuture
15th November 2013, 01:32
@ JDobbs

I'm not worried at all. I know, that's a statement a lot of people make very loosely. I appreciate the info and you will check the AAC->AC-3 encoding. I'm going to do some further checking.

Blurayhd
15th November 2013, 03:27
Are you trying to create a single disc from two? Below is how. Keep in mind that you might want to use more meaningful names -- and you can edit your output menu's text:

1. Create a folder to hold the two discs. For example, you might create a folder called "D:\BOTH_DISCS"

2. Rip the two BDs into that folder. It might look like this:
D:\BOTH_DISCS
D:\BOTH_DISCS\DISC_1
D:\BOTH_DISCS\DISC_2

3. Open up BD-RB and select IMPORT and IMPORT BD(s) from the FILES menu. Then browse for D:\BOTH_DISCS

4. The import will take a few minutes, depending on how many discs you are importing. If you haven't created a default path for imports with the IMPORT_FOLDER hidden option, the result of the import will be in your Working Path. Let's say your working path is "D:\WORKING". So you should now have a new folder called "D:\WORKING\IMPORTS".

5. If you look in that folder you'll find another new folder called "BOTH_DISCS" -- if it is small enough (not likely) you could burn that folder. If you have a computer based player like PowerDVD 11, etc, you can point to it and test it. But since it is likely too large you move on to step 6.

6. From BD-RB select "D:\WORKING\BOTH_DISCS" as your source folder. Choose an output folder (or keep it as "D:\WORKING")... also choose an output target size.

7. Do a Full backup. At the end of the process you will have a folder called BOTH_DISCS in your working folder. It will be sized to match your target -- and you can burn it to disc.

Dear jdobbs

Just tried to play the quick play with the detailed guide you indicate, but as I could not play on my pc, just burn it on a BD25 and reproduced in my bluray player, tried with two full bluray disc of a tv show.

The problem is everything was fine, started the menu, images, music etc but i note that there was no play, no buttons to give play. Not even responded to the remote control commands. There was displayed as a panel where the buttons were supposedly are but did not appear either.

You can fix this dear jdobbs?

Sorry, Google translation, i really do my best

jdobbs
15th November 2013, 15:25
Dear jdobbs

Just tried to play the quick play with the detailed guide you indicate, but as I could not play on my pc, just burn it on a BD25 and reproduced in my bluray player, tried with two full bluray disc of a tv show.

The problem is everything was fine, started the menu, images, music etc but i note that there was no play, no buttons to give play. Not even responded to the remote control commands. There was displayed as a panel where the buttons were supposedly are but did not appear either.

You can fix this dear jdobbs?

Sorry, Google translation, i really do my bestIt sounds like the menu was never produced. I'd need more details (like the log showing the import and the encode) to see what might be happening.

jdobbs
15th November 2013, 16:54
I have updated the first post of this thread with links to the latest version (v0.45.04) of BD-RB. Changes for this release:- Corrected an issue in which setting of the
"Attempt to find original background" item
in the Import/Quick-Play dialog was not
functioning correctly.
- Added a new item to the Import/Quick-Play
setup dialog that enabled reauthoring
to play items sequentially rather than return
to the menu at completion of each.
- Fixed an error in which the overall Menu
Title was not appearing when importing DVDs
or video files while Quick-Play output was
selected. Also corrects possible loss of
edited title names, especially when importing
directly from a read-only device.
- Added an new item to the Import/Quick-Play
setup dialog that lets the user decide
whether to start disc playback at the menu or
go directly to the first play item.
- Changed the default foreground color for the
active MENU item to GREEN.
- Added a HIDDEN option MENU_ACTIVE_COLOR that
allows you to choose a color for characters
other than GREEN to represent the active
item in a menu. (see HIDDENOPTS.TXT).
- Added a HIDDEN option TWEAK_ALTERNATE that
allows adding specific X264 command line
options to encodes destined for alternate
output to MKV and MP4 (cTypes 1 & 5 only).
The tweaks are appended to any other defined
tweaks in TWEAK_PASS_ONE and TWEAK_PASS_TWO.
The TWEAK_ALTERNATE option is not filtered
to retain BD compliance as the other tweaks
are.
- Added checks so that previous MENU edits are
not retained when the IMPORT_THRESHOLD value
changes. This should avoid naming confusion
since the threshold can change the number
and position of playitems that are included
in an import.
- Fixed an error in which importing very small
video files followed by a full-backup could
result in an unplayable structure.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

A.Fenderson
15th November 2013, 16:59
Wow, jdobbs, you've been very busy--yet again! Thanks for another fast and promising update. :-)

jdobbs
15th November 2013, 17:02
Hmm, I must have overlooked something. Let me try again and see what happens, in the meantime I am assuming your output is side by side and resize is done within script.

Also if not to much of hassle can you post avisynth script related to this. I really want to compare this with mine and see what is happening.

[Update] I just tried again and yes indeed it doesn't play nice with directshowmvcsource plugin. However I use different decoder ssifsource2, but labaled as ssifsource3 and so far autocrop worked since I am encoding right know.

[Update2] Jdobbs, this script works for me give it a try and let me know if it works for you as well.

Quote:

LoadPlugin("D:\BD-RBV04502\BD_Rebuilder\stereoplayer.exe\SsifSource2.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\BD-RBV04502\BD_Rebuilder\tools\autocrop.dll")
VIEW1=SsifSource3("J:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00950.ssif; 187800", avc_view = true, mvc_view = false)
VIEW2=SsifSource3("J:\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\00950.ssif; 187800", avc_view = false, mvc_view = true)
StackHorizontal(VIEW1,VIEW2).BicubicResize(1920,1080)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)
Autocrop(Mode=0)

X264 encoder working as it should and I also viewed the result of output from encoder. I did a lot of testing with SSIFSource3 some time back. Unless it has changed a lot since then I found it to not be stable enough to include as an option. I can't remember all the issues -- but I do remember they were substantial. That's when I decided to stick only with DirectshowMVCSource.

HWK
15th November 2013, 17:11
I did a lot of testing with SSIFSource3 some time back. Unless it has changed a lot since then I found it to not be stable enough to include as an option. I can't remember all the issues -- but I do remember they were substantial. That's when I decided to stick only with DirectshowMVCSource.

Do you want to give another try and see if it works, at most you may loose some time to test it but you will be sure that it can be ruled out if it doesn't work.

Also few days back I remember new version of ssifsource was released. I am not sure if r0lz has included in his package or not.

jdobbs
15th November 2013, 17:27
Do you want to give another try and see if it works, at most you may loose some time to test it but you will be sure that it can be ruled out if it doesn't work.

Also few days back I remember new version of ssifsource was released. I am not sure if r0lz has included in his package or not.I'll test it, but I really don't want to put too much more time & effort into SBS & O/U 3D support. It works pretty well now and with recent updates to the new version of TSMUXER and newer tools that use the Intel MVC SDK, the time is getting close for reliably creating truly compliant BD 3D. I'd rather concentrate my efforts in that direction.

HWK
15th November 2013, 18:04
I'll test it, but I really don't want to put too much more time & effort into SBS & O/U 3D support. It works pretty well now and with recent updates to the new version of TSMUXER and newer tools that use the Intel MVC SDK, the time is getting close for reliably creating truly compliant BD 3D. I'd rather concentrate my efforts in that direction.

Marvelous, I think it is about time to steer into that direction. Just food for thought I found using pipe between decoder and encoder works best and if you plan to add it do consider this since it doesn't create temp file and not to mention when they are two of them.

Also small request, if possible create three steps process in BD-RB which is similar to DVD-RB Professional. I want to use Mainconcept MVC encoder since it can handle avisynth script and utilize all cores of cpu and processing power (12 * 4.2 GHZ)

My Idea is BD-RB prepare files to encode, then encode and rebuild and for me in second stage I redirect encoding task to Mainconcept instead of Intel Media SDK and once done just rebuild normally within BD-RB.

colinhunt
15th November 2013, 18:05
the time is getting close for reliably creating truly compliant BD 3D. I'd rather concentrate my efforts in that direction.
Yes, a million times yes.

colinhunt
15th November 2013, 18:35
Whoa. I re-purposed an 18-month old video editing PC for testing duties and I'm now running the first encode on the v0.45.04 on it. I've got quality set to 4, i.e. Ultra High, and making a full backup of disc 1 of Revolution tv show. BD-RB reported 101 fps for pass 1 and 16-19 fps for pass 2. That's pretty awesome, methinks.

jdobbs
15th November 2013, 18:39
Whoa. I re-purposed an 18-month old video editing PC for testing duties and I'm now running the first encode on the v0.45.04 on it. I've got quality set to 4, i.e. Ultra High, and making a full backup of disc 1 of Revolution tv show. BD-RB reported 101 fps for pass 1 and 16-19 fps for pass 2. That's pretty awesome, methinks.Cool.

soneca
15th November 2013, 18:48
I have updated the first post of this thread with links to the latest version (v0.45.04) of BD-RB.

Thanks jdobbs!:)

Glarioo
15th November 2013, 19:50
Thank you jdobbs! I'm glad to see there is an hidden option "TWEAK_ALTERNATE=s". But how can i change (tweak) the vbv buffer/maxrate, for a 2-pass MKV, to another value, e.g. 30000?
So i get following LASTCMD:
C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 10372 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "

jdobbs
15th November 2013, 19:57
Thank you jdobbs. I'm glad to see there is an hidden option "TWEAK_ALTERNATE=s". But how can the vbv buffer/maxrate (2-pass MKV) set (tweak) to e.g. 30000?
So i get following LASTCMD:
C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 10372 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 30000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "I'm confused. You're asking how to set it to 30000 -- and then show a LASTCMD file that is 30000???

If you want to set the vbv maxrate/buffer to some value -- let's use 25000 and 20000 as an example. You'd add the following to the [Options] area of the config/ini file:

TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 25000 --vbv-bufsize 20000

You don't have to worry about repeating something that is already in the command line -- because earlier settings will be overridden by later settings in the command line.

Those X264 command line options are documented here (http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings#vbv-maxrate).

Just remember that the tweak only applies to unrestricted MKV and MP4 output (cType=1 or 5). In other words, it doesn't apply to presets for iPod & iPad, for example. That's because these types of settings could make them incompatible with their target.

jdobbs
15th November 2013, 20:21
@Sharc I did NOT choose to re-encode the audio track to .AC3 - Because, if I remember correctly, if making a BD9, BD-RB AUTOMATICALLY re-encodes HD audio to .AC3 (640kbps)... Did you ever get this figured out?

Glarioo
15th November 2013, 20:29
I'm confused. You're asking how to set it to 30000 -- and then show a LASTCMD file that is 30000???

If you want to set the vbv maxrate/buffer to some value -- let's use 25000 and 20000 as an example. You'd add the following to the [Options] area of the config/ini file:

TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 25000 --vbv-bufsize 20000

You don't have to worry about repeating something that is already in the command line -- because earlier settings will be overridden by later settings in the command line.

Those X264 command line options are documented here (http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings#vbv-maxrate).

Just remember that the tweak only applies to unrestricted MKV and MP4 output (cType=1 or 5). In other words, it doesn't apply to presets for iPod & iPad, for example. That's because these types of settings could make them incompatible with their target.

Sorry jdobbs that i confused you. That LASTCMD file was just an example of how it could look after tweaking.
I understand now how to change vbv maxrate/buffer. I'm going to try it out this night and let you know what the results are. Thanks!

AmigaFuture
16th November 2013, 06:36
@ JDobbs

Hi. I selected Full Backup before importing 5 iPad 2 videos (720p). Only 2 show in the list, as I wrote about previously. After they were imported, all the AAC were converted to AC-3. I burned the PSEUDO from Imports....and same results as before. This time I set BD-RB to High-Speed Encode. Then burned the output project once the 5 file's video and audio were rerendered. Which means the Audio were rerendered twice, probably because I didn't check the settings in SETUP. Doh! Anyway, skipping that for now.. The 2 of 5 showing in the Full Backup list where rerendered to 1920x1080@29.97fps and without the "jerky" sound. The other 3 were left at original except for AAC to AC-3.

Note that I have Edit on in these tests.
Now switching to Movies & Menus and importing.

[20:32:41] Importing: GLACIER
- [20:32:42] Importing video file: (1 of 5)
- Preparing MOV for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [20:32:52] Importing video file: (2 of 5)
- Preparing MOV for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [20:32:59] Importing video file: (3 of 5)
- Preparing MOV for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [20:33:09] Importing video file: (4 of 5)
- Preparing MOV for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [20:33:18] Importing video file: (5 of 5)
- Preparing MOV for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting audio, Track #2, AAC to AC3...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [20:33:25] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[20:33:29] Video import completed successfully.

In the list all videos are set to be blanked except the menu. Unchecking them and having BD-RB preform a Backup.

That produced an output of all at 1080p@29.97fps and correct audio. I'll change audio setting in SETUP and see if that stops the rerendering..after clicking "Backup".

So, it looks like the bug I reported with Die Hard 4 is also part of the Import for Full Backup??

jdobbs
16th November 2013, 07:06
@ JDobbs

Hi. I selected Full Backup before importing 5 iPad 2 videos (720p). Only 2 show in the list, as I wrote about previously. After they were imported, all the AAC were converted to AC-3. I burned the PSEUDO from Imports....and same results as before. This time I set BD-RB to High-Speed Encode. Then burned the output project once the 5 file's video and audio were rerendered. Which means the Audio were rerendered twice, probably because I didn't check the settings in SETUP. Doh! Anyway, skipping that for now.. The 2 of 5 showing in the Full Backup list where rerendered to 1920x1080@29.97fps and without the "jerky" sound. The other 3 were left at original except for AAC to AC-3.

Note that I have Edit on in these tests.
Now switching to Movies & Menus and importing.

In the list all videos are set to be blanked except the menu. Unchecking them and having BD-RB preform a Backup.

That produced an output of all at 1080p@29.97fps and correct audio. I'll change audio setting in SETUP and see if that stops the rerendering..after clicking "Backup".

So, it looks like the bug I reported with Die Hard 4 is also part of the Import for Full Backup?? Is it possible only two showed in the list because of the IMPORT_THRESHOLD size? That's usually the case.

The second encode is necessary. The first one is simply part of the import in order to make it possible to put in BD format (AAC isn't allowed). The second encode (during the backup) is required to convert the audio to 48k sample rate. I wish I could do both in the AAC->AC3 conversion, but I couldn't find a parameter in FAAD or Aften that resamples -- and it has to be converted in order to continue the import.

Glarioo
16th November 2013, 08:00
Sorry jdobbs that i confused you. That LASTCMD file was just an example of how it could look after tweaking.
I understand now how to change vbv maxrate/buffer. I'm going to try it out this night and let you know what the results are. Thanks!

I thought i understood it, but i'm doing something wrong, i don't know what.
TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 35000 --vbv-bufsize 30000. vbv maxrate/buffer didn't change. I also tried your example TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 25000 --vbv-bufsize 20000. vbv maxrate/buffer changed either.

LASTCMD: "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00011.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 10166 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00011.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00011.AVS.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00011.AVS.264"

MediaInfo: Encoding settings: cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=48 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=48 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=10166 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=15000 / vbv_bufsize=15000 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00

[Options]
VERSION=0.45.0.4
TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 35000 --vbv-bufsize 30000
SHOW_ENCODER=1
MKV_CHAPTERS=1
MKV_MUXSUPS=1
USE_ZLIB=0
MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=1
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=16370
PRIORITY_CLASS=2
TARGET_SIZE=11160
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=10
ALTCRF=19
ALT_TARGET=10390
ALTMETHOD=2
ALTAUTOCROP=0
OUTPUT_3D=1
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=D:\BD-RB WORK\
SOURCE_PATH=D:\BLU-RAY\PACIFIC_RIM\
DirectShowMVCSource=D:\BD-RB Work\stereoplayer.exe\DirectShowMVCSource.dll

[Status]
LABEL=PACIFIC_RIM
VERSION=v0.45.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=35313825792
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=35313825792
TARGET_SIZE=17165189120
REDUCTION=.486075601695034
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=10
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00011]
AUDIO=00000001
PGS=1111111111111111000
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=17165189120
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[11/15/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.04 (beta)
[23:35:47] Source: PACIFIC_RIM_00100
- Input BD size: 32,89 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:11:16.910]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Subtitle [5] is defaulted ON.
[23:35:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:35:47] Processing: VID_00011 (1 of 1)
- [23:35:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [23:47:02] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 188.857 frames
- Bitrate: 10.166 Kbs
- [23:47:02] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:58:21] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:50:59] Video Encode complete
- [05:50:59] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4359 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[05:54:23]PHASE ONE complete
[05:54:23]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [05:54:23] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[06:12:44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

AmigaFuture
16th November 2013, 08:15
I wish I could do both in the AAC->AC3 conversion, but I couldn't find a parameter in FAAD or Aften that resamples -- and it has to be converted in order to continue the import.

Ahhhhh....Illumination about the AAC -> AC-3....dawns. I thought you were ignoring, missing or something!! NOW I get why the clicking Backup matters. That's been a puzzler for me for a bit. Thank You. Now I'll leave that spot on my head alone. Laughing!

Sharc
16th November 2013, 09:06
@jdobbs
Thanks for the update.
Some issues which I found with v0.45.04, Quick-Play backup to BD9:

- The CERTIFICATE folder is still missing. (I did NOT select Strict AVCHD).
- The menu background video has been replaced by the static stars picture. I have the "Attempt to find original Background" selected. The former version included the video. Did you replace the video by the static picture because of the too high bitrate of the original Video for BD9? If so, any plans to compress the video in future?
- It seems that the menu still got messed up in my case. I did NO threshold changes.

My configuration: (titles.inf of the source; looks correct to me))
[Titles]
Title=BREAKING BAD Season 5 Disk 1
Threshold=21600000
00090=Extra 1 [00:12:38.799]
00092=Extra 3 [00:11:00.701]
00099=Extra 2 [00:10:37.036]
00121=LEBE FREI ODER STIRB
00122=MADRIGAL
00123=GEFAHRENZULAGE
00124=51
[Position]
00090=5
00092=0
00099=6
00121=1
00122=2
00123=3
00124=4
[Selected]
00090=-1
00092=0
00099=-1
00121=-1
00122=-1
00123=-1
00124=-1

What I got after encoding: (titles.inf of the target; looks incorrect to me)
[Titles]
Title=BREAKING BAD Season 5 Disk 1
00000=Extra 3 [00:11:00.701]
00001=LEBE FREI ODER STIRB
00002=MADRIGAL
00003=GEFAHRENZULAGE
00005=Extra 1 [00:12:38.799]
00006=Extra 2 [00:10:37.036]

- Episode 4 (item 00124 with name 51) is missing in the titles.inf on the target, but the corresponding .m2ts file for Episode 4 does exist on the target.
- Extra 3 (which I unselected) is put in first position and still exists as encoded .m2ts file on the target i.e. it was not removed for authoring.

It's just what I see from the titles.inf. As it looks wrong to me I didn't burn the disc ...... (wrong conclusion?)

Added:
And when I now open the encoded BD9 in DB-RB and start the Quick Play Menu Editor, I am getting again something different, and right clicking / Preview This Item even plays the wrong files .... :confused:

jdobbs
16th November 2013, 16:19
@Sharc

Yes, I set the backdrop to the default because the source would require reencoding when outputting to BD-5/9. But I plan to add a reencode of the menu backdrop to the lower maximum bitrate so it is retained in the next release. I didn't have time to do it this time -- but I didn't want to create backdrops that cause the disc to fail.

I'll look at the CERTIFICATE thing again.

I'll do some testing with the Quick-Play authoring. I did quite a bit before posting this version, but apparently I must have missed something. That extra with a "0" for position shouldn't be in the output. Ughhh... I was hoping to take a break for a couple days, but I don't want to leave that sort of thing unaddressed.

Sharc
16th November 2013, 16:55
@Sharc

Yes, I set the backdrop to the default because the source would require reencoding when outputting to BD-5/9. But I plan to add a reencode of the menu backdrop to the lower maximum bitrate so it is retained in the next release. I didn't have time to do it this time -- but I didn't want to create backdrops that cause the disc to fail.

I'll look at the CERTIFICATE thing again.

I'll do some testing with the Quick-Play authoring. I did quite a bit before posting this version, but apparently I must have missed something. That extra with a "0" for position shouldn't be in the output. Ughhh... I was hoping to take a break for a couple days, but I don't want to leave that sort of thing unaddressed.

No rush. Just take yor days off as planned, you deserve it!

mparade
16th November 2013, 19:29
----------------------
[11.16.13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.03 (beta)
[15:48:33] Source: LORD_OF_THE_RINGS_FELLOWSHIP
- Input BD size: 39,07 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:20:35.598]
- Target BD size: 7,84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[15:48:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:48:39] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 19)
- [15:48:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:48:44] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1*152 frames
- [15:48:44] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:48:51] Video Encode complete
- [15:48:51] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (por): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (ces): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (hun): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (pol): Keeping original audio
- Track 4357 (rus): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (tha): Keeping original audio
- [15:48:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:48:57] Processing: VID_00001 (2 of 19)
- [15:48:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [15:58:18] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 256*641 frames
- Bitrate: 4*768 Kbs
- [15:58:18] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:27:03] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:02:45] Video Encode complete
- [19:02:45] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4355 (hun): Keeping original audio
- [19:02:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:04:55] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 19)
- [19:04:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [19:05:00] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 601 frames
- Bitrate: 3*726 Kbs
- [19:05:00] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:05:13] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:05:26] Video Encode complete
- [19:05:26] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:05:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:05:30] Processing: VID_00007 (4 of 19)
- [19:05:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [19:05:38] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3*577 frames
- Bitrate: 2*801 Kbs
- [19:05:38] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:06:34] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:07:33] Video Encode complete
- [19:07:33] Processing audio tracks
- [19:07:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:07:38] Processing: VID_00009 (5 of 19)
- [19:07:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [19:07:44] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 2*521 frames
- Bitrate: 2*973 Kbs
- [19:07:44] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.45.03 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[19:08:45] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any idea what I have done wrong? I guess it must be caused by setting the multiprocess option enabled....

I would really appreciate your help.

setarip_old
16th November 2013, 19:30
@jdobbs (re: Man of Steel)

After choosing to continue several times, despite seeing several messages stating that the resultant compressed disc would eventually be too big (due to audio and subtitles), the full disc compressed package created by BD-RB was something on the order of 10.18GB. Although most everything was processed properly, some of the extras were not.

So, I simply made a 25GB full disc, with no problems...

HWK
16th November 2013, 19:51
----------------------
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[19:08:45] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any idea what I have done wrong? I guess it must be caused by setting the multiprocess option enabled....

I would really appreciate your help.

See the things color in red, you need to fix them and they can be fixed by running BD-rb in admin mode and it should ask along lines of you system is not configured... would like me to do it for you, say yes to dialog box. If it doesn't appear you may have to start over by deleting whole folder.

If done correctly inspect.exe report would look like one shown below

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

mparade
16th November 2013, 20:09
See the things color in red, you need to fix them and they can be fixed by running BD-rb in admin mode and it should ask along lines of you system is not configured... would like me to do it for you, say yes to dialog box. If it doesn't appear you may have to start over by deleting whole folder.

If done correctly inspect.exe report would look like one shown below

I have just realized that your second advice will be the "winner"....Thanks!

rendez2k
16th November 2013, 20:28
Just tested the quickplay feature. Menu works great in PowerDVD but I only get the background (some static stars?) and no way to progress or select anything on my Sony BDP-S480. Any ideas?

AmigaFuture
16th November 2013, 20:43
@ JDobbs

I found why only 2 of 5 are showing. I had output set to "Target Size BD-25". When switched to BD-5/9 then all 5 show in the list including the menu; in Full Backup.

To get around the AAC -> AC-3 then AC-3 again, what about AAC to WAV making changes to it, then encode to AC-3? Using an uncompressed WAV it would be less degradation to the audio, right? Maybe detection for MOV files so it's the only time it's activated in such a way during Import? Your thoughts?

jdobbs
16th November 2013, 20:48
@ JDobbs

I found why only 2 of 5 are showing. I had output set to "Target Size BD-25". When switched to BD-5/9 then all 5 show in the list including the menu; in Full Backup.

To get around the AAC -> AC-3 then AC-3 again, what about AAC to WAV making changes to it, then encode to AC-3? Using an uncompressed WAV it would be less degradation to the audio, right? Maybe detection for MOV files so it's the only time it's activated in such a way during Import? Your thoughts?That's what you are always doing when you convert from one codec to another. FAAD gives you WAV output that is fed directly into AFTEN via pipe (which encodes to AC3). It's possible to keep it WAV for the mux... but it gets huge and slows things down. In most cases the source is 48Kbs already making the second encode unnecessary, and if you don't reencode from AAC to AC3 the first time, and decide to burn directly from the encode -- you're stuck with the huge audio. For many encodes that would also mean required video encoding to hit the target (PCM audio is huge) when it shouldn't be necessary.

The ideal solution would be to do the sample rate conversion in that same step as the AAC->AC3 conversion. I'm looking to see if I can find a tool that accepts pips for input, allows a pipe for output and resamples. That way it could be plugged into the command line. If I can't find one I can always write one.

Converting to AC3 at 640Kbs or higher (for 6 channels) has been proven to be undetectable to the human ear. Which means it is just as good as WAV from a practical standpoint. But there's no denying that too many conversions will eventually degrade audio.

jdobbs
16th November 2013, 21:31
No rush. Just take yor days off as planned, you deserve it!No such luck. I had a 3TB hard drive go bad this morning. It had a huge number of various sources on it used for testing. I don't want to have to try and create all those again. I'm in the middle of trying to recover it. :(

mparade
16th November 2013, 21:39
See the things color in red, you need to fix them and they can be fixed by running BD-rb in admin mode and it should ask along lines of you system is not configured... would like me to do it for you, say yes to dialog box. If it doesn't appear you may have to start over by deleting whole folder.

If done correctly inspect.exe report would look like one shown below

It is still not working.I went through the same process several times without any success, namely after clicking "yes" BD-RB is not going even to start....However, after trying to restart my computer windows says that BD-RB is still open and if I really want to force restart and close the program. So far I haven't experienced any similar issue yet.

jdobbs
16th November 2013, 21:43
It is still not working.I went through the same process several times without any success, namely after clicking "yes" BD-RB is not going even to start....However, after trying to restart my computer windows says that BD-RB is still open and if I really want to force restart and close the program. So far I haven't experienced any similar issue yet.Did you run it with administrative privileges?

mparade
16th November 2013, 22:00
Did you run it with administrative privileges?

Yes, for sure. I am quite sure now that I would have to change to an administrative profile also. I think it is not enough for some reason on my computer to use administrative privileges in my own profile. I have to change to an admin profile and reinstall all your packages. It is just assumption because it was not required for any other program I am currently using.

jdobbs
16th November 2013, 22:11
Yes, for sure. I am quite sure now that I would have to change to an administrative profile also. I think it is not enough for some reason on my computer to use administrative privileges in my own profile. I have to change to an admin profile and reinstall all your packages. It is just assumption because it was not required for any other program I am currently using. You can set those manually, but it's a bit of a pain. But it really needs to be done for BD-RB to run correctly. If you have admin privileges, all you have to do is right click on the BD-RB executable and select "Run as Administrator".

colinhunt
16th November 2013, 22:19
I had a 3TB hard drive go bad this morning.
Let me guess: Seagate?

AmigaFuture
16th November 2013, 22:37
No such luck. I had a 3TB hard drive go bad this morning. It had a huge number of various sources on it used for testing. I don't want to have to try and create all those again. I'm in the middle of trying to recover it. :(

This is why a clone backup is a good idea. I've been there, it's sometimes very challenging when a drive's circuit board is failing. I hope that's it and not platters. Replace that, which I'm sure you know, and usually good to go. :D Anyway, BEST wishes.

Using the BD-9 output option, since the iPad 2 files are functioning well, I thought I'd try Die Hard 4 again. Which, I see more files accessible...so trying a hunch/test..

jdobbs
16th November 2013, 22:53
Let me guess: Seagate? No, Western Digital. I've had the same experience, though, with Seagate, in fact I had my last one go bad about a month ago -- that's one of the reasons I try to stay with WD. But, even the best laid plans of mice and men...

HWK
16th November 2013, 23:18
No such luck. I had a 3TB hard drive go bad this morning. It had a huge number of various sources on it used for testing. I don't want to have to try and create all those again. I'm in the middle of trying to recover it. :(

Ouch, it must be painful to loose countless number of hours work. Well I wish you luck in salvage process.
Also have you thought of using raid 10 or similar for critical files.

mparade
17th November 2013, 00:41
You can set those manually, but it's a bit of a pain. But it really needs to be done for BD-RB to run correctly. If you have admin privileges, all you have to do is right click on the BD-RB executable and select "Run as Administrator".

I see. The problem can be described as follows (sorry but in hungarian English): I set up each of the decoding packages required for the BD-RB to function according to your "manual". Then right-clicked on the icon and run as administrator. Then I accepted so that BD-RB can do modifications on my computer. After that, BD-RB asked me if it can make some changes to the Directshow registry. Clicked "Yes". And then virtually nothing happened with BD-RB, even not opened. (But actually they are opened after each attempt and started to "eat" my CPU's capacity, according to my task manager the CPU usage was on constant 100%, as if I was encoding with each). If now, I try to open it without admin privileges it again asks if it can make some changes to the Directshow registry. If I click on "Yes", it says that sorry, but you do not have administrative privileges, and exit. Then the "story" is the same for each attempt to open BD-RB again. I do could work with your program recently because after starting it as an administrator I told the program to not make any changes to the Directshow registry. (It has been working until I tried to encode the "Lord of the Rings BD disk with VC-1 content".
I know it is not a bug related problem but if anyone have already been in such an issue, please help. Thanks for any help in advance.

AmigaFuture
17th November 2013, 00:49
@ mparade

Hi. Are you able to create a new user Administrator account with that computer? If so, do that..and try running BD-RB from it.

jdobbs
17th November 2013, 01:13
@jdobbs
Thanks for the update.
Some issues which I found with v0.45.04, Quick-Play backup to BD9:

- The CERTIFICATE folder is still missing. (I did NOT select Strict AVCHD).
- The menu background video has been replaced by the static stars picture. I have the "Attempt to find original Background" selected. The former version included the video. Did you replace the video by the static picture because of the too high bitrate of the original Video for BD9? If so, any plans to compress the video in future?
- It seems that the menu still got messed up in my case. I did NO threshold changes.

My configuration: (titles.inf of the source; looks correct to me))
[Titles]
Title=BREAKING BAD Season 5 Disk 1
Threshold=21600000
00090=Extra 1 [00:12:38.799]
00092=Extra 3 [00:11:00.701]
00099=Extra 2 [00:10:37.036]
00121=LEBE FREI ODER STIRB
00122=MADRIGAL
00123=GEFAHRENZULAGE
00124=51
[Position]
00090=5
00092=0
00099=6
00121=1
00122=2
00123=3
00124=4
[Selected]
00090=-1
00092=0
00099=-1
00121=-1
00122=-1
00123=-1
00124=-1

What I got after encoding: (titles.inf of the target; looks incorrect to me)
[Titles]
Title=BREAKING BAD Season 5 Disk 1
00000=Extra 3 [00:11:00.701]
00001=LEBE FREI ODER STIRB
00002=MADRIGAL
00003=GEFAHRENZULAGE
00005=Extra 1 [00:12:38.799]
00006=Extra 2 [00:10:37.036]

- Episode 4 (item 00124 with name 51) is missing in the titles.inf on the target, but the corresponding .m2ts file for Episode 4 does exist on the target.
- Extra 3 (which I unselected) is put in first position and still exists as encoded .m2ts file on the target i.e. it was not removed for authoring.

It's just what I see from the titles.inf. As it looks wrong to me I didn't burn the disc ...... (wrong conclusion?)

Added:
And when I now open the encoded BD9 in DB-RB and start the Quick Play Menu Editor, I am getting again something different, and right clicking / Preview This Item even plays the wrong files .... :confused: Well, that's the result of another one of those "this won't hurt anything" last minute changes before release. You think I'd learn. I've fixed it. The CERTIFICATE thing was fixed as well (there was two changes that needed to be made -- I'd only changed one).

HWK
17th November 2013, 01:59
I see. The problem can be described as follows (sorry but in hungarian English): I set up each of the decoding packages required for the BD-RB to function according to your "manual". Then right-clicked on the icon and run as administrator. Then I accepted so that BD-RB can do modifications on my computer. After that, BD-RB asked me if it can make some changes to the Directshow registry. Clicked "Yes". And then virtually nothing happened with BD-RB, even not opened. (But actually they are opened after each attempt and started to "eat" my CPU's capacity, according to my task manager the CPU usage was on constant 100%, as if I was encoding with each). If now, I try to open it without admin privileges it again asks if it can make some changes to the Directshow registry. If I click on "Yes", it says that sorry, but you do not have administrative privileges, and exit. Then the "story" is the same for each attempt to open BD-RB again. I do could work with your program recently because after starting it as an administrator I told the program to not make any changes to the Directshow registry. (It has been working until I tried to encode the "Lord of the Rings BD disk with VC-1 content".
I know it is not a bug related problem but if anyone have already been in such an issue, please help. Thanks for any help in advance.

Which antivirus you are using, I recently had case where program was being blocked by AV and all I had to do was turn of AV shield and BD-RB was able to make change.

I hate it when AV suppose to protect computer, instead the make user life miserable.

jdobbs
17th November 2013, 02:19
Which antivirus you are using, I recently had case where program was being blocked by AV and all I had to do was turn of AV shield and BD-RB was able to make change.

I hate it when AV suppose to protect computer, instead the make user life miserable.Amen to that. I've never had much of a problem from viruses... but I've had lots of issues caused by antivirus software. I have to disable it whenever I'm doing anything productive locally (like backups) because it slows the system down so terribly.

HWK
17th November 2013, 02:42
Amen to that. I've never had much of a problem from viruses... but I've had lots of issues caused by antivirus software. I have to disable it whenever I'm doing anything productive locally (like backups) because it slows the system down so terribly.

Sometime I do wonder if every time there is problem and it is caused by AV, how many lawsuit will be for manufacturer.

To make matter worse some AV companies even don't allow expert mode or similar apparently because in their opinion end user is dumb.

I understand their point of view but at least include with warning, rather than completely taking it of the program :mad:

AmigaFuture
17th November 2013, 03:16
The need for an Anti-Virus, flu shots, "Soul" servicing, and much more is based on fear...mostly. I have most Avast Shields off unless I deem needed. My systems are quick that way. I'm not into trading security for freedom and awareness.

Pptthh.... Update: I tried the BD-9 output with reencoding and FORCE_NOENCODE=1 but BD-RB (or tsMuxeR still) damages an extra I want to keep from Die Hard 4. Oh well....for now, I have to BD-50 backup or my original when little people are visiting. It's really cool having the Quick-Play and choice of sequential or not. Thanks a LOT for that! :D Like a small person playing in Toys'R'Us.

Sharc
17th November 2013, 08:20
@mparade
Maybe it has already been said but don't install BD-RB into the standard programs folder. Just put it somewhere else.

rendez2k
17th November 2013, 11:08
jdobbs, did you see my post yesterday about the menus not working on my Sony player (fine on PowerDVD)? Heres the log:

----------------------
[11/16/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.04 (beta)
[07:17:33] Source: PACIFIC.RIM.2013
- Input BD size: 41.77 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:19:23.284]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quick-Play Reauthoring mode enabled
- Resize SD to HD 720p enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:17:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:17:33] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 15)
- [07:17:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [07:17:43] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,889 frames
- Bitrate: 7,227 Kbs
- [07:17:43] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:19:39] Video Encode complete
- [07:19:39] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [07:19:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:19:46] Processing: VID_00011 (2 of 15)
- [07:19:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [07:26:34] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 188,857 frames
- Bitrate: 17,756 Kbs
- [07:26:34] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:28:36] Video Encode complete
- [08:28:36] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:28:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:38:28] Processing: VID_00013 (3 of 15)
- [08:38:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [08:38:39] Reencoding video [VID_00013]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,029 frames
- Bitrate: 7,299 Kbs
- [08:38:39] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:40:29] Video Encode complete
- [08:40:29] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:40:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:40:36] Processing: VID_00014 (4 of 15)
- [08:40:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [08:40:47] Reencoding video [VID_00014]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,491 frames
- Bitrate: 7,693 Kbs
- [08:40:47] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:42:33] Video Encode complete
- [08:42:33] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:42:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:42:40] Processing: VID_00015 (5 of 15)
- [08:42:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [08:42:52] Reencoding video [VID_00015]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,281 frames
- Bitrate: 7,220 Kbs
- [08:42:52] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:45:03] Video Encode complete
- [08:45:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:45:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:45:11] Processing: VID_00016 (6 of 15)
- [08:45:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [08:45:22] Reencoding video [VID_00016]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,150 frames
- Bitrate: 7,269 Kbs
- [08:45:22] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:47:30] Video Encode complete
- [08:47:30] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:47:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:47:38] Processing: VID_00017 (7 of 15)
- [08:47:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [08:47:48] Reencoding video [VID_00017]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,785 frames
- Bitrate: 7,246 Kbs
- [08:47:48] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:49:18] Video Encode complete
- [08:49:18] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:49:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:49:26] Processing: VID_00018 (8 of 15)
- [08:49:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [08:49:36] Reencoding video [VID_00018]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,625 frames
- Bitrate: 7,278 Kbs
- [08:49:36] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:51:18] Video Encode complete
- [08:51:18] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:51:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:51:24] Processing: VID_00020 (9 of 15)
- [08:51:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [08:51:34] Reencoding video [VID_00020]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,977 frames
- Bitrate: 7,150 Kbs
- [08:51:34] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:53:02] Video Encode complete
- [08:53:02] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:53:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:53:09] Processing: VID_00026 (10 of 15)
- [08:53:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [08:53:19] Reencoding video [VID_00026]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,697 frames
- Bitrate: 7,247 Kbs
- [08:53:19] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:55:03] Video Encode complete
- [08:55:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:55:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:55:10] Processing: VID_00027 (11 of 15)
- [08:55:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [08:55:26] Reencoding video [VID_00027]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,817 frames
- Bitrate: 7,260 Kbs
- [08:55:26] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:58:47] Video Encode complete
- [08:58:47] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:58:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:58:58] Processing: VID_00028 (12 of 15)
- [08:58:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [08:59:06] Reencoding video [VID_00028]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,489 frames
- Bitrate: 7,222 Kbs
- [08:59:06] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:00:20] Video Encode complete
- [09:00:20] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:00:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:00:25] Processing: VID_00029 (13 of 15)
- [09:00:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [09:00:34] Reencoding video [VID_00029]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,729 frames
- Bitrate: 7,212 Kbs
- [09:00:34] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:01:52] Video Encode complete
- [09:01:52] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:01:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:01:58] Processing: VID_00030 (14 of 15)
- [09:01:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [09:02:08] Reencoding video [VID_00030]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,857 frames
- Bitrate: 7,228 Kbs
- [09:02:08] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:03:42] Video Encode complete
- [09:03:42] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:03:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:03:48] Processing: VID_00041 (15 of 15)
- [09:03:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [09:03:55] Reencoding video [VID_00041]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,159 frames
- Bitrate: 2,140 Kbs
- [09:03:55] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:04:54] Video Encode complete
- [09:04:54] Processing audio tracks
- [09:04:54] Multiplexing M2TS
[09:04:59]PHASE ONE complete
[09:04:59]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:04:59] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [09:04:59] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[09:05:05] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:05:05] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[09:15:34] JOB: PACIFIC.RIM.2013 finished.

jdobbs
17th November 2013, 12:50
jdobbs, did you see my post yesterday about the menus not working on my Sony player (fine on PowerDVD)? Heres the log:

----------------------
[11/16/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.04 (beta)
[07:17:33] Source: PACIFIC.RIM.2013
- Input BD size: 41.77 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:19:23.284]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quick-Play Reauthoring mode enabled
- Resize SD to HD 720p enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:17:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:17:33] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 15)
- [07:17:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [07:17:43] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,889 frames
- Bitrate: 7,227 Kbs
- [07:17:43] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:19:39] Video Encode complete
- [07:19:39] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [07:19:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:19:46] Processing: VID_00011 (2 of 15)
- [07:19:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [07:26:34] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 188,857 frames
- Bitrate: 17,756 Kbs
- [07:26:34] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:28:36] Video Encode complete
- [08:28:36] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:28:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:38:28] Processing: VID_00013 (3 of 15)
- [08:38:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [08:38:39] Reencoding video [VID_00013]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,029 frames
- Bitrate: 7,299 Kbs
- [08:38:39] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:40:29] Video Encode complete
- [08:40:29] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:40:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:40:36] Processing: VID_00014 (4 of 15)
- [08:40:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [08:40:47] Reencoding video [VID_00014]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,491 frames
- Bitrate: 7,693 Kbs
- [08:40:47] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:42:33] Video Encode complete
- [08:42:33] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:42:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:42:40] Processing: VID_00015 (5 of 15)
- [08:42:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [08:42:52] Reencoding video [VID_00015]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,281 frames
- Bitrate: 7,220 Kbs
- [08:42:52] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:45:03] Video Encode complete
- [08:45:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:45:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:45:11] Processing: VID_00016 (6 of 15)
- [08:45:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [08:45:22] Reencoding video [VID_00016]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,150 frames
- Bitrate: 7,269 Kbs
- [08:45:22] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:47:30] Video Encode complete
- [08:47:30] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:47:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:47:38] Processing: VID_00017 (7 of 15)
- [08:47:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [08:47:48] Reencoding video [VID_00017]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,785 frames
- Bitrate: 7,246 Kbs
- [08:47:48] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:49:18] Video Encode complete
- [08:49:18] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:49:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:49:26] Processing: VID_00018 (8 of 15)
- [08:49:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [08:49:36] Reencoding video [VID_00018]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,625 frames
- Bitrate: 7,278 Kbs
- [08:49:36] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:51:18] Video Encode complete
- [08:51:18] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:51:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:51:24] Processing: VID_00020 (9 of 15)
- [08:51:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [08:51:34] Reencoding video [VID_00020]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,977 frames
- Bitrate: 7,150 Kbs
- [08:51:34] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:53:02] Video Encode complete
- [08:53:02] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:53:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:53:09] Processing: VID_00026 (10 of 15)
- [08:53:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [08:53:19] Reencoding video [VID_00026]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,697 frames
- Bitrate: 7,247 Kbs
- [08:53:19] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:55:03] Video Encode complete
- [08:55:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:55:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:55:10] Processing: VID_00027 (11 of 15)
- [08:55:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [08:55:26] Reencoding video [VID_00027]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,817 frames
- Bitrate: 7,260 Kbs
- [08:55:26] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:58:47] Video Encode complete
- [08:58:47] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:58:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:58:58] Processing: VID_00028 (12 of 15)
- [08:58:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [08:59:06] Reencoding video [VID_00028]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,489 frames
- Bitrate: 7,222 Kbs
- [08:59:06] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:00:20] Video Encode complete
- [09:00:20] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:00:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:00:25] Processing: VID_00029 (13 of 15)
- [09:00:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [09:00:34] Reencoding video [VID_00029]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,729 frames
- Bitrate: 7,212 Kbs
- [09:00:34] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:01:52] Video Encode complete
- [09:01:52] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:01:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:01:58] Processing: VID_00030 (14 of 15)
- [09:01:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [09:02:08] Reencoding video [VID_00030]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,857 frames
- Bitrate: 7,228 Kbs
- [09:02:08] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:03:42] Video Encode complete
- [09:03:42] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:03:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:03:48] Processing: VID_00041 (15 of 15)
- [09:03:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [09:03:55] Reencoding video [VID_00041]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,159 frames
- Bitrate: 2,140 Kbs
- [09:03:55] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:04:54] Video Encode complete
- [09:04:54] Processing audio tracks
- [09:04:54] Multiplexing M2TS
[09:04:59]PHASE ONE complete
[09:04:59]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:04:59] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [09:04:59] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[09:05:05] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:05:05] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[09:15:34] JOB: PACIFIC.RIM.2013 finished.Yes, I saw it. I'm not sure what I can do about it, but I saw it. I can go back to the spec and see if I find anything new -- but I've already gone over it very diligently. Have you tried more than one disc? Is it possible something went wrong in the burn?

I'll pick up "Pacific Rim" and give it a test -- but I don't expect to find anything. Can you post your settings so I can do an apples-to-apples test?

rendez2k
17th November 2013, 13:04
Thanks. Testing a second disc later today. I think the burn is OK as it worked in Cyberlink. Tested the same disc in the latest version and the previous version.

I think somebody further back had a similar issue?

jdobbs
17th November 2013, 13:12
Thanks. Testing a second disc later today. I think the burn is OK as it worked in Cyberlink. Tested the same disc in the latest version and the previous version.

I think somebody further back had a similar issue?I don't think I remember any issues reported with standalone players other than yours. What is the default language on your player?

rendez2k
17th November 2013, 13:13
I was thinking of this but might not be the same:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1653456&postcount=18307

gonca
17th November 2013, 13:28
jdobbs
I have Pacific Rim sitting on the PC still. If you want I can use rendez2ks INI and test it.

jdobbs
17th November 2013, 13:30
I was thinking of this but might not be the same:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1653456&postcount=18307Whenever I hear "my player" rather than a brand/model or the word "standalone" I assume it is something other than a standalone. For example, a playstation isn't a BD player. It is a game machine.

jdobbs
17th November 2013, 14:01
jdobbs
I have Pacific Rim sitting on the PC still. If you want I can use rendez2ks INI and test it. Thanks. But I need to pick that one up for testing anyway. It wouldn't hurt to have more than one test, though.

soneca
17th November 2013, 14:12
Amen to that. I've never had much of a problem from viruses... but I've had lots of issues caused by antivirus software. I have to disable it whenever I'm doing anything productive locally (like backups) because it slows the system down so terribly.

Off:
jdobbs, you can tell which is the antivirus you use?
For years I did not have this problem of slowness using Nod32. From time to time do testing with leading antivirus market and none has the lightness(less impact on the system)of Eset, which even protects very well.

mparade
17th November 2013, 14:38
Which antivirus you are using, I recently had case where program was being blocked by AV and all I had to do was turn of AV shield and BD-RB was able to make change.

I hate it when AV suppose to protect computer, instead the make user life miserable.

Eset Endpoint Antivirus. I disabled it, but the situation is exact the same as I wrote in my last letter. I tried to run it without AV enabled both from my own and from my admin profile with the same results......I think I have to turn to some win7 expert or search in google for a solution. Anyway, thank all of you for the help.

Sharc
17th November 2013, 14:41
Well, that's the result of another one of those "this won't hurt anything" last minute changes before release. You think I'd learn. I've fixed it. The CERTIFICATE thing was fixed as well (there was two changes that needed to be made -- I'd only changed one).
Good news that you could nail it down. Thanks.

jdobbs
17th November 2013, 14:51
Off:
jdobbs, you can tell which is the antivirus you use?
For years I did not have this problem of slowness using Nod32. From time to time do testing with leading antivirus market and none has the lightness(less impact on the system)of Eset, which even protects very well. I've gone through several. My criteria for "best" now is the one that is easiest to turn off/on. I'm currently using AVG.

Based on my experience ALL antivirus packages slow your system down without exception. Some may be better than others, but they all have a significant impact when enabled.

gonca
17th November 2013, 15:53
rendez2k
Do you have MIN_M2TS_SIZE set to anything but default

rendez2k
17th November 2013, 15:56
The only thing I changed thats different is in Import/QP settings, minimums changed to 10 & 5.

gonca
17th November 2013, 16:02
The only thing I changed thats different is in Import/QP settings, minimums changed to 10 & 5.

Can you post your INI file

rendez2k
17th November 2013, 16:03
[Options]
VERSION=0.45.0.4
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
MENU_BACKGROUND=C:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=10
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=5
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1
AUTO_BURN=2
TARGET_SIZE=23500
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=G:\TEMP\

gonca
17th November 2013, 17:05
@jdobbs--@rendez2k
Pacific Rim

[11/17/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.04 (beta)
[09:21:35] Source: PACIFIC_RIM
- Input BD size: 41.60 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:13:42.986]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quick-Play Reauthoring mode enabled
- Resize SD to HD 720p enabled
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[09:21:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:21:35] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 14)
- [09:21:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [09:21:42] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,889 frames
- Bitrate: 7,257 Kbs
- [09:21:42] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:22:23] Video Encode complete
- [09:22:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:22:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:22:26] Processing: VID_00011 (2 of 14)
- [09:22:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [09:24:24] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 188,857 frames
- Bitrate: 17,834 Kbs
- [09:24:24] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:47:01] Video Encode complete
- [09:47:01] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:47:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:48:25] Processing: VID_00013 (3 of 14)
- [09:48:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [09:48:31] Reencoding video [VID_00013]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,029 frames
- Bitrate: 7,330 Kbs
- [09:48:31] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:49:11] Video Encode complete
- [09:49:11] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:49:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:49:15] Processing: VID_00014 (4 of 14)
- [09:49:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [09:49:21] Reencoding video [VID_00014]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,491 frames
- Bitrate: 7,725 Kbs
- [09:49:21] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:50:05] Video Encode complete
- [09:50:05] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:50:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:50:09] Processing: VID_00015 (5 of 14)
- [09:50:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [09:50:16] Reencoding video [VID_00015]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,281 frames
- Bitrate: 7,250 Kbs
- [09:50:16] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:51:05] Video Encode complete
- [09:51:05] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:51:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:51:08] Processing: VID_00016 (6 of 14)
- [09:51:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [09:51:15] Reencoding video [VID_00016]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,150 frames
- Bitrate: 7,300 Kbs
- [09:51:15] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:52:03] Video Encode complete
- [09:52:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:52:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:52:07] Processing: VID_00017 (7 of 14)
- [09:52:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [09:52:12] Reencoding video [VID_00017]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,785 frames
- Bitrate: 7,277 Kbs
- [09:52:12] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:52:46] Video Encode complete
- [09:52:46] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:52:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:52:50] Processing: VID_00018 (8 of 14)
- [09:52:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [09:52:56] Reencoding video [VID_00018]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,625 frames
- Bitrate: 7,309 Kbs
- [09:52:56] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:53:34] Video Encode complete
- [09:53:34] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:53:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:53:38] Processing: VID_00020 (9 of 14)
- [09:53:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [09:53:44] Reencoding video [VID_00020]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,977 frames
- Bitrate: 7,181 Kbs
- [09:53:44] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:54:17] Video Encode complete
- [09:54:17] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:54:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:54:21] Processing: VID_00026 (10 of 14)
- [09:54:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [09:54:27] Reencoding video [VID_00026]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,697 frames
- Bitrate: 7,277 Kbs
- [09:54:27] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:55:06] Video Encode complete
- [09:55:06] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:55:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:55:10] Processing: VID_00027 (11 of 14)
- [09:55:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [09:55:19] Reencoding video [VID_00027]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,817 frames
- Bitrate: 7,291 Kbs
- [09:55:19] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:56:33] Video Encode complete
- [09:56:33] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:56:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:56:37] Processing: VID_00028 (12 of 14)
- [09:56:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [09:56:43] Reencoding video [VID_00028]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,489 frames
- Bitrate: 7,253 Kbs
- [09:56:43] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:57:09] Video Encode complete
- [09:57:09] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:57:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:57:13] Processing: VID_00029 (13 of 14)
- [09:57:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [09:57:19] Reencoding video [VID_00029]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,729 frames
- Bitrate: 7,242 Kbs
- [09:57:19] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:57:47] Video Encode complete
- [09:57:47] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:57:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:57:51] Processing: VID_00030 (14 of 14)
- [09:57:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [09:57:57] Reencoding video [VID_00030]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,857 frames
- Bitrate: 7,258 Kbs
- [09:57:57] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:58:31] Video Encode complete
- [09:58:31] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:58:31] Multiplexing M2TS
[09:58:34]PHASE ONE complete
[09:58:34]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:58:34] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [09:58:34] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[09:58:37] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:58:37] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[10:01:46] JOB: PACIFIC_RIM finished.

[Options]
VERSION=0.45.0.4
MODE=2
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
SD_CONVERT=1
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
MENU_BACKGROUND=C:\Users\LUIS\Desktop\BD-RBV04504\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=5
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=10
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=W:\HD\
SOURCE_PATH=I:\PACIFIC_RIM\

Folder structure

TMT 6 -- hangs as usual
PDVD13 -- works fine

BD-R

TMT 6 -- hangs
PDVD13 -- works fine
Sony BDP-S550 -- works fine --standalone

rendez2k
17th November 2013, 17:06
Wow! You must have a fast PC. Mine is still encoding my second attempt!

Worrying yours works though?

gonca
17th November 2013, 17:17
BD-R disc works on SONY and PDVD13, FOLDER works on PDVD13

jdobbs
17th November 2013, 17:41
[Options]
VERSION=0.45.0.4
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
MENU_BACKGROUND=C:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=10
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=5
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1
AUTO_BURN=2
TARGET_SIZE=23500
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=G:\TEMP\You have to be consistent with your reporting. The INI above isn't the settings used in the bug report: - Input BD size: 41.77 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:19:23.284]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quick-Play Reauthoring mode enabled
- Resize SD to HD 720p enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640

rendez2k
17th November 2013, 17:43
Well, the issue is that I removed Windows 8 after the encode yesterday. Due to too many issues and put Win 7 back-on. I'll be re-running the test after the disc I'm currently doing. But, Rim has failed twice under Windows 8.

tn jim
17th November 2013, 18:25
---
This is my second attempt with latest beta, first one on another BD movie was fine. Second attempt on another movie aborted. AnyDVD HD did it's thing without problems. Is this a bug or a problem with the original disc?

Log file below:

[11/17/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.04 (beta)
[11:59:13] Source: 94623009_THE_QUEEN_00000
- Input BD size: 19.71 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:22.154]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:59:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:59:14] Processing: VID_00009 (1 of 1)
- [11:59:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (65303 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[12:04:16] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

rendez2k
17th November 2013, 18:33
Tried a second disc, burnt to BD-RE again. Works fine on PDVD13 but all I get on the Sony is the background image and music. No buttons!

Edit: reburnt to standard BD-R still won't work. Happy to test anything further. Assume my Sony standalone isn't conforming to a certain spec?

HWK
17th November 2013, 18:35
---
This is my second attempt with latest beta, first one on another BD movie was fine. Second attempt on another movie aborted. AnyDVD HD did it's thing without problems. Is this a bug or a problem with the original disc?

Log file below:

[11/17/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.04 (beta)
[11:59:13] Source: 94623009_THE_QUEEN_00000
- Input BD size: 19.71 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:22.154]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:59:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:59:14] Processing: VID_00009 (1 of 1)
- [11:59:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (65303 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[12:04:16] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

This error message is coming from tsmuxer, not BD-RB and it is caused by bad rip. Re-rip original disc with anydvd and see what happens. Make sure to use anydvd default setting as well.

tn jim
17th November 2013, 22:24
This error message is coming from tsmuxer, not BD-RB and it is caused by bad rip. Re-rip original disc with anydvd and see what happens. Make sure to use anydvd default setting as well.

Ok, I did a do over without any changes to any of my setups and it worked fine?

soneca
17th November 2013, 22:27
I've gone through several. My criteria for "best" now is the one that is easiest to turn off/on. I'm currently using AVG.

Based on my experience ALL antivirus packages slow your system down without exception. Some may be better than others, but they all have a significant impact when enabled.

The Nod32 causes much less impact on the system and protects more compared to AVG. If you want to test and the like Nod32, I paid the license for you! :D

mparade
18th November 2013, 00:29
Which antivirus you are using, I recently had case where program was being blocked by AV and all I had to do was turn of AV shield and BD-RB was able to make change.

I hate it when AV suppose to protect computer, instead the make user life miserable.

Just to inform those who experienced similar problems like I did recently, finally done it with Win7DSFilterTweaker within less than 1 minute, so now my inspect.exe tells:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

jdobbs
18th November 2013, 00:36
Just to inform those who experienced similar problems like I did recently, finally done it with Win7DSFilterTweaker within less than 1 minute, so now my inspect.exe tells:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok Great. I would have suggested that to you -- but I'd forgotten the name.

whitelab
18th November 2013, 04:14
i installed bd-rebuilder on a new computer i build and bd-rebuilder gives me this error component MSCOMCLT.OCX or one of its dependencies not correctly registered a file is missing or invalid

Ch3vr0n
18th November 2013, 04:22
Go into the bdrb folder. You'll find a .bat file there with (near) identical name. Rightclick on it and run it as admin. That should.fix the problem

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

whitelab
18th November 2013, 04:36
the module MSCOMCLT.OCX failed to load make sure the binary is storedat the specified path or debug it to check it for problems with the binary or dependent .dll files the specified module could not be found

HWK
18th November 2013, 04:47
the module MSCOMCLT.OCX failed to load make sure the binary is storedat the specified path or debug it to check it for problems with the binary or dependent .dll files the specified module could not be found

Right click main executable of BD-RB and run as administrator and hopefully it should fix you problem, I did on win 7 and it worked.

Ch3vr0n
18th November 2013, 05:06
The main bdrb will afaik only fix ffdshow settings, iirc the bat file is needed to.register that file.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

HWK
18th November 2013, 05:14
In my case only thing I needed to do was to run BD-RB as admin and it managed to register "MSCOMCLT.OCX" and it worked.

HWK
18th November 2013, 05:18
i installed bd-rebuilder on a new computer i build and bd-rebuilder gives me this error component MSCOMCLT.OCX or one of its dependencies not correctly registered a file is missing or invalid

You can also use REGSVR32 /S MSCOMCLT.OCX to register this file.
To do so you need to run Windows Command Processor or CMD with admin privilege and type everything you see in blue and then try again to see if it works.

AmigaFuture
18th November 2013, 11:05
Based on my experience ALL antivirus packages slow your system down without exception. Some may be better than others, but they all have a significant impact when enabled.

"How do you slow a computer to almost non-stop??" - "Run an Anti-Virus, or crash a program low-level and a 2.X Ghz machine will run like a Commodore 64 infected or both." - I've experienced it, and repaired it..more than I can count. Wee!

The Quick-Play settings thresholds are only supposed to affect BD/DVD Authored Imports, right?

mparade
18th November 2013, 13:54
If I use (when making full backups) BD-5 or BD-9 as the output size, in the stream list it is possible even to blank the m2ts files relating to each menu item. If I change the output size to custom (for example to 10500Mbyte due to willing to keep a DTS-HD stream with the video content as well), these menu items marked with "*" disappear from the stream list not being able to edit them anymore even if I set hiddenopt min m2ts size to a very small unit. I usually make custom sized full backups and want to blank the menu items which are not in hungarian/english, but it seems that it can be only done if the output size is set to BD-5 or BD-9. I do not want to keep any space reserving content on my hard disk which I surely know will never be used. As far as I know, if a m2ts is not located in the streamlist it will be copied directly without any encoding process and remuxed with all the content finally which went through the encoding process. Could Mr. JDobbs check this? I do not want to keep space reserving content on my hard disk which I surely know will never be used. I just do not understand why I cannot blank menu items after I change the output size to custom, maybe I did something wrong.

dfsooner
18th November 2013, 18:31
One quick question and one comment.

Is it necessary to leave the titles.inf file in the source directory after processing is complete? Otherwise it has to be cleaned up manually.

I love the idea of combining video files into a BD with automatic menu generation. Menus not working with TMT is annoying but would not keep me from using the import/quick-play features. However, the fact that it also hangs up my Dune HD Smart H1 makes it a deal breaker. I suspect there are a lot of people like me that don't burn discs anymore but use their media players for everything.

Update:

The Dune problems seem to be alleviated with the latest update of BDRB. I am now a happy camper.

jdobbs
18th November 2013, 20:14
the module MSCOMCLT.OCX failed to load make sure the binary is storedat the specified path or debug it to check it for problems with the binary or dependent .dll files the specified module could not be foundRight click on the BAT file and run as administrator. You need privileges to register the OCX.

It's interesting that some Windows installations have the OCX already installed and some don't. That's why I added the file and the BAT file to it.

jdobbs
18th November 2013, 20:21
If I use (when making full backups) BD-5 or BD-9 as the output size, in the stream list it is possible even to blank the m2ts files relating to each menu item. If I change the output size to custom (for example to 10500Mbyte due to willing to keep a DTS-HD stream with the video content as well), these menu items marked with "*" disappear from the stream list not being able to edit them anymore even if I set hiddenopt min m2ts size to a very small unit. I usually make custom sized full backups and want to blank the menu items which are not in hungarian/english, but it seems that it can be only done if the output size is set to BD-5 or BD-9. I do not want to keep any space reserving content on my hard disk which I surely know will never be used. As far as I know, if a m2ts is not located in the streamlist it will be copied directly without any encoding process and remuxed with all the content finally which went through the encoding process. Could Mr. JDobbs check this? I do not want to keep space reserving content on my hard disk which I surely know will never be used. I just do not understand why I cannot blank menu items after I change the output size to custom, maybe I did something wrong. I don't think you've actually set the min size... or everything would show up. Recheck your INI -- also, if you've installed int "Program Files (x86)", make sure you are editing through BD-RB from the files menu. If you are directly editing the INI, Windows virtualization may be ignoring your changes (because the real file is elsewhere).

As I said before, the MIN_M2TS_SIZE is the only factor that decides what is shown for BD-25. It's a little different for BD-5/9 -- because the lower bitrate requirements of BD-5/9 makes it necessary to reencode almost everything.

mparade
18th November 2013, 20:58
I don't think you've actually set the min size... or everything would show up. Recheck your INI -- also, if you've installed int "Program Files (x86)", make sure you are editing through BD-RB from the files menu. If you are directly editing the INI, Windows virtualization may be ignoring your changes (because the real file is elsewhere).

As I said before, the MIN_M2TS_SIZE is the only factor that decides what is shown for BD-25. It's a little different for BD-5/9 -- because the lower bitrate requirements of BD-5/9 makes it necessary to reencode almost everything.

Thank you for the help. I did everything as it was mentioned by you above except one thing. Could you please detail this part "also, if you've installed int "Program Files (x86)""?
I would really appreciate your help, and please check the 3D discussion also if you will have some extra time besides dealing with such "stupid" question like you just got from me. :D

jdobbs
18th November 2013, 22:09
Thank you for the help. I did everything as it was mentioned by you above except one thing. Could you please detail this part "also, if you've installed int "Program Files (x86)""?
I would really appreciate your help, and please check the 3D discussion also if you will have some extra time besides dealing with such "stupid" question like you just got from me. :DStarting with Vista, Microsoft started protecting the "Program Files" folders. Depending on your configuration, sometimes when you read or write to something in the folder, it is actually written to an identical file in a hidden data area. The problem is that they don't tell you it is happening. So if you edit the INI from within BD-RB, you can be assured the active file is being referenced. If you do it manually by editing the BDREBUILDER.INI file in that folder -- your changes may not ever be recognized.

This is one of the reasons the instructions in my first post of this thread recommends installing somewhere other than "Program Files" and "Program Files (x86).

Ch3vr0n
18th November 2013, 22:10
or simply disable UAC and no more issues ^^

HWK
18th November 2013, 22:12
or simply disable UAC and no more issues ^^

No, that is to be used solve all issues :D

mparade
18th November 2013, 23:04
Starting with Vista, Microsoft started protecting the "Program Files" folders. Depending on your configuration, sometimes when you read or write to something in the folder, it is actually written to an identical file in a hidden data area. The problem is that they don't tell you it is happening. So if you edit the INI from within BD-RB, you can be assured the active file is being referenced. If you do it manually by editing the BDREBUILDER.INI file in that folder -- your changes may not ever be recognized.

This is one of the reasons the instructions in my first post of this thread recommends installing somewhere other than "Program Files" and "Program Files (x86).

Yes, I see and thank you for your time again, but I really did everything according to your instructions. The only vids missing from the stream list when a custom target size output option is selected (above the size of BD-9) are relating without any exception to the disk's menu content and are displayed with "*" mark in the stream list when BD-9 or BD-5 selected as an output option. Maybe the menu content of a disk cannot be reencoded/blanked at all in case of a custom target size output option which was set above BD-9 capacity.

Just to see I am not about to find some extra head-aches for you every time over the ones you are getting every day from the others, and that I really appreciate your continuous hard work on such a great program I have just sent you 20 extra bucks. :)

jdobbs
19th November 2013, 00:52
Yes, I see and thank you for your time again, but I really did everything according to your instructions. The only vids missing from the stream list when a custom target size output option is selected (above the size of BD-9) are relating without any exception to the disk's menu content and are displayed with "*" mark in the stream list when BD-9 or BD-5 selected as an output option. Maybe the menu content of a disk cannot be reencoded/blanked at all in case of a custom target size output option which was set above BD-9 capacity.

Just to see I am not about to find some extra head-aches for you every time over the ones you are getting every day from the others, and that I really appreciate your continuous hard work on such a great program I have just sent you 20 extra bucks. :)Thanks again for the support. The "*" indicates that the video is a part of a multi-part playlist.

Bubbator
19th November 2013, 02:25
Hi,
And thanks for a wonderful program!
I've never had a glitch using BD-Rebuilder, but installing 45.04 failed with Norton Internet Security.
45.04 seemed to install but then NIS threw up a red warning about trojan horse behavior and wiped the install.
No problem for 2D and not ready to compile a combined disk me. I'll just use 45.03.
Is this a new issue?
Bub:thanks:

Ch3vr0n
19th November 2013, 02:34
Nope no new issue. Just your Norton screwing up as it has done in the past. Its a false positive. You need inform Norton about that.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

Bubbator
19th November 2013, 02:40
Thanks Ch3vr0n, will do.
Bub
ps
random questions: wow:D

AmigaFuture
19th November 2013, 08:33
One quick question and one comment.

Is it necessary to leave the titles.inf file in the source directory after processing is complete? Otherwise it has to be cleaned up manually.

I love the idea of combining video files into a BD with automatic menu generation. Menus not working with TMT is annoying but would not keep me from using the import/quick-play features. However, the fact that it also hangs up my Dune HD Smart H1 makes it a deal breaker. I suspect there are a lot of people like me that don't burn discs anymore but use their media players for everything.

Update:

The Dune problems seem to be alleviated with the latest update of BDRB. I am now a happy camper.

I love the titles.info file remaining. That way it's able to be used again, or...maybe you want to copy something you entered. Auto-Delete would be a bug, to me. Kidding, JDobbs!

You'd be surprised. Digistor and Verbatim make very good products in conjunction with careful hands. Paper and pencil is also still relevant in a Digital World. :eek: :D

@Jdobbs

Open Project is still not setting the bits as was saved. FYI...no hurry.

Anyone else tested and able to confirm; omegaman7, Ch3vr0n? Thanks.

jdobbs
19th November 2013, 16:09
Hi,
And thanks for a wonderful program!
I've never had a glitch using BD-Rebuilder, but installing 45.04 failed with Norton Internet Security.
45.04 seemed to install but then NIS threw up a red warning about trojan horse behavior and wiped the install.
No problem for 2D and not ready to compile a combined disk me. I'll just use 45.03.
Is this a new issue?
Bub:thanks:Yes it's a new issue. But it's an issue with NIS, not BD-RB. I'd suggest you post a problem report on THEIR forum. Better yet, dump it and tell them you're tired of AV software being a bigger headache than viruses.

Hmm... maybe I could actually make some money if I created an anti-antivirus package that protects people from unwanted intrusions from their antivirus software.

rendez2k
19th November 2013, 16:14
Hi jdobbs, any further thoughts on my Quick Play issue? You said you might look over the specs again if you get chance. Or have I just got the worst BR player in the history of BR players :-)

jdobbs
19th November 2013, 16:16
I love the titles.info file remaining. That way it's able to be used again, or...maybe you want to copy something you entered. Auto-Delete would be a bug, to me. Kidding, JDobbs!

You'd be surprised. Digistor and Verbatim make very good products in conjunction with careful hands. Paper and pencil is also still relevant in a Digital World. :eek: :D

@Jdobbs

Open Project is still not setting the bits as was saved. FYI...no hurry.

Anyone else tested and able to confirm; omegaman7, Ch3vr0n? Thanks. I tend to agree. That's why I put it in the backup folder. It does no harm, and can come in handy at a later date. If you're combining discs via import it puts it above the individual disc folders -- so again it does no harm.

jdobbs
19th November 2013, 16:43
Hi jdobbs, any further thoughts on my Quick Play issue? You said you might look over the specs again if you get chance. Or have I just got the worst BR player in the history of BR players :-) I looked at everything, it's correctly structured. If it is anything, it may be something related to the way the M2TS containing the IGS is muxed since I do it manually. But I went over that again and didn't see any issues either. Maybe someone else could take a look since I'm a little too close to it. But, so far your post is the only one that reports an issue with a standalone player. Interestingly the Sony player is also the only one I believe had a reported issue with the remux of DTS-Express streams as well.

Glarioo
19th November 2013, 16:52
@jdobbs

Have you already found something what could go wrong with the TWEAK_ALTERNATE option? (page 917)

jdobbs
19th November 2013, 17:45
@jdobbs

Have you already found something what could go wrong with the TWEAK_ALTERNATE option? (page 917)Yeah. I fixed it.

rendez2k
19th November 2013, 18:08
I looked at everything, it's correctly structured. If it is anything, it may be something related to the way the M2TS containing the IGS is muxed since I do it manually. But I went over that again and didn't see any issues either. Maybe someone else could take a look since I'm a little too close to it. But, so far your post is the only one that reports an issue with a standalone player. Interestingly the Sony player is also the only one I believe had a reported issue with the remux of DTS-Express streams as well.

So no easy way around it then I guess? Real shame as thats a killer a feature :-(

Glarioo
19th November 2013, 18:33
Yeah. I fixed it.

Thank you!
So it will be available in the next release?

jdobbs
19th November 2013, 19:01
Thank you!
So it will be available in the next release?Yes. You'll probably see it this afternoon (Mountain Time).

HWK
19th November 2013, 19:59
Hmm... maybe I could actually make some money if I created an anti-antivirus package that protects people from unwanted intrusions from their antivirus software.

lol, that would be interesting and thanks for good laugh :D

jdobbs
20th November 2013, 02:02
I have updated the first post of this thread with links to the most recent version of BD-RB (v0.45.05). Changes for this release:- Fixed an error in which an unmounted IMPORT
source no longer causes "Runtime error 52".
- Corrected an issue that caused MENU items to
be incorrectly displayed when Quick-Play
mode is selected and editing results in
items being reordered or removed.
- Fixed an error in which TWEAK_ALTERNATE was
not being applied to some presets that have
the correct cType set.
- Added code to reencode automatic backgrounds
to meet lower bitrate reqts when BD-5/9 is
selected as the target during Quick-Play
backups.
- Corrected an issue related to ordering and
retention of streams when the first item of
an import is removed.
- Added code to appropriately set the MKV file
"stereo-mode" flag when outputting 3D content
to an MKV. This will enable auto-sensing of
3D content on some playback devices.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

soneca
20th November 2013, 02:08
Thank you! :cool:

HWK
20th November 2013, 02:10
Thank you, from my side as well.

mparade
20th November 2013, 11:11
Thank You!

Sharc
20th November 2013, 12:19
jdobbs :thanks: I will test the quick menu fixes today.

Capsbackup
20th November 2013, 15:41
Just repeated the missing CERTIFICATE folder. :p
I import 3 DVD compliant mpg files created from a set top DVD Recorder. These are 3 separate TV episode files.
I have "Quick-Play Backup" enabled, Strict AVCHD is not checked.
The contents of the IMPORTS folder has BDMV, CERTIFICATE and PSEUDO folders present.
After pressing backup, the newly created encoded folder only has the BDMV folder present!


I can confirm that there is no longer a missing CERTIFICATE folder! :cool:
:thanks:

jdobbs
20th November 2013, 15:50
I can confirm that there is no longer a missing CERTIFICATE folder! :cool:
:thanks: Hey! And it only took me two tries! ;)

Capsbackup
20th November 2013, 16:16
Hey! And it only took me two tries! ;)

:rolleyes: Yeah I guess your losing it a bit... it's tough staying at the top of your game!! :eek: :p

Sharc
20th November 2013, 23:23
Well, that's the result of another one of those "this won't hurt anything" last minute changes before release. You think I'd learn. I've fixed it. The CERTIFICATE thing was fixed as well (there was two changes that needed to be made -- I'd only changed one).

It is my pleasure to report back that all my quick menu issues are solved with the new release 0.45.05.
The re-compressed menu backdrop solved the stutter due to excessive bitrate for BD5/9, and the CERTIFICATE folder is back in place. :cool:
:thanks:

jdobbs
21st November 2013, 00:08
It is my pleasure to report back that all my quick menu issues are solved with the new release 0.45.05.
The re-compressed menu backdrop solved the stutter due to excessive bitrate for BD5/9, and the CERTIFICATE folder is back in place. :cool:
:thanks: Great!

Glarioo
21st November 2013, 16:18
Last night BD Rebuilder created two MKV's from the Bd's Trance & After Earth. Set TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 35000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 and it works great.
I just watched the Trance movie and it had a very good picture quality.
Nice work Mr. Jdobbs, a donation is coming you're way.

LASTCMD (After Earth): "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 10189 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --vbv-maxrate 35000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --stats "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264"

MediaInfo (Trance): Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=48 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=48 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=10367 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=35000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00

jdobbs
21st November 2013, 16:35
Good news. That makes me 3 for 3!

My next project is full 3D backup support...

andref4
21st November 2013, 18:51
Hi jdobbs

I have problems if I want to import an mkv file wich have subtitles in (vob)Sub format or srt text format.
BD-Rebuilder wont Import that subtitles. Only subtitles in pgs format works.

would be nice if it was fixable so that the created pseudo BD shows that subtitles too.

many thx and kind regards

De_Hollander
21st November 2013, 19:30
I have a problem with the newest beta version,

This is the playlist

DISC INFO:

Disc Title: Mary.Poppins.1964.COMPLETE.BLURAY-PCH
Disc Size: 45.608.432.147 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00800.MPLS
Length: 2:19:06.338 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 0 bytes
Total Bitrate: 0,00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD High-Res Audio English 2046 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Italian 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Dutch 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Dutch 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Dutch 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Dutch 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Dutch 0,000 kbps


settings movie only
By the settings audio, All audio are checked but it's taken only Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
The subs is no problem.

De_Hollander
21st November 2013, 20:21
When i make a remux and take playlist 800, and takes only DTS-HD High-Res Audio English 2046 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
and Dutch DD, then it's no problem with bd rebuilder.

Observer
21st November 2013, 20:30
The checkbox "Use SupTitle for Alternate Forced Subs" is not correctly initialized from the value stored in BDREBUILDER.INI. The checkbox is always unchecked when the setup dialog is opened independently of the value stored in BDREBUILDER.INI.

jdobbs
21st November 2013, 21:15
Hi jdobbs

I have problems if I want to import an mkv file wich have subtitles in (vob)Sub format or srt text format.
BD-Rebuilder wont Import that subtitles. Only subtitles in pgs format works.

would be nice if it was fixable so that the created pseudo BD shows that subtitles too.

many thx and kind regards I thought I had SRT subtitles covered, but it's been a while -- and I don't remember ever testing it. I'll look at it.

jdobbs
21st November 2013, 21:21
The checkbox "Use SupTitle for Alternate Forced Subs" is not correctly initialized from the value stored in BDREBUILDER.INI. The checkbox is always unchecked when the setup dialog is opened independently of the value stored in BDREBUILDER.INI.Hmm... I just tested it and you are correct. I'll fix it for the next release.

dfsooner
21st November 2013, 23:32
I thought I had SRT subtitles covered, but it's been a while -- and I don't remember ever testing it. I'll look at it.

I have imported mkv files with srt subtitles and have been unable to turn on the subtitles when playing with the Dune media player. I believe it may be because there is no popup menu defined, which is how I normally have to do it.

jdobbs
22nd November 2013, 00:43
I have imported mkv files with srt subtitles and have been unable to turn on the subtitles when playing with the Dune media player. I believe it may be because there is no popup menu defined, which is how I normally have to do it.How the player decides to let you choose subtitles is completely up to the player. The MKV is just a container that packages them with the audio/video. Anyway, that would be something different. The issue reported is the import of SRT subtitles from an MKV into BD-RB.

dfsooner
22nd November 2013, 04:31
How the player decides to let you choose subtitles is completely up to the player. The MKV is just a container that packages them with the audio/video. Anyway, that would be something different. The issue reported is the import of SRT subtitles from an MKV into BD-RB.

That's what I'm doing. I create mkv files, then mux in subtitles from an srt file. I can play the mkv file just fine and select the subtitles. When I use the import function to import the altered mkv's, it creates creates a BD structure. When I play the BD structure, there's no way to select and view the subtitles within the BD. The PG stream shows up in BDinfo.

I accept the fact that you're not responsible for how the players work. It's just that the menu created apparently doesn't work like most BD menus as regards subtitles.

mparade
22nd November 2013, 14:21
Good news. That makes me 3 for 3!

My next project is full 3D backup support...

I am sure that I am the happiest to hear it! Could you please detail a bit? I think I am able to make such procudures doing faster. :)

mparade
22nd November 2013, 14:29
Does anyone know why "blank this item" is permanently
greyed out in the stream list when right-clicking on any video stream? I think the answer will be "This feature is added in preparation for future stream editing options", but hoping some more positive answer from Mr. JDobbs....:)

jdobbs
22nd November 2013, 14:33
That's what I'm doing. I create mkv files, then mux in subtitles from an srt file. I can play the mkv file just fine and select the subtitles. When I use the import function to import the altered mkv's, it creates creates a BD structure. When I play the BD structure, there's no way to select and view the subtitles within the BD. The PG stream shows up in BDinfo.

I accept the fact that you're not responsible for how the players work. It's just that the menu created apparently doesn't work like most BD menus as regards subtitles.I'll look at it.

jdobbs
22nd November 2013, 14:39
Does anyone know why "blank this item" is permanently
greyed out in the stream list when right-clicking on any video stream? I think the answer will be "This feature is added in preparation for future stream editing options", but hoping some more positive answer from Mr. JDobbs....:)See this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1526277&highlight=enable_test%27#post1526277).

mparade
22nd November 2013, 15:17
See this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1526277&highlight=enable_test%27#post1526277).

I think it is a very useful feature, thank you!

jdobbs
22nd November 2013, 15:37
I think it is a very useful feature, thank you! Unfortunately the nature of the BD structure makes it difficult to implement without some human intervention and a little knowledge. That's why its still undocumented.

mparade
22nd November 2013, 16:00
If having interlaced sources on a BD complaint disk as an extra content (for example marked as MPEG-4 (AVC), 480i, 29.97 fps in the streamlist) how to get to know within BD-RB if is hard-telecined, soft-telecined, interlaced, mixed progressive and telecine, mixed progressive and interlaced?

Does BD-RB automatically recognize all these types of content and handle accordingly? I know that it is possible to set up both manually and automatically IVTC on hard and soft telecined sources, but I do not know if it is an entirely automatic process made by BD-RB or I should manually check each extra content outside of BD-RB to know the exact video type and set up BD-RB accordingly?

Please help even it is not a bug related issue, it would be much appreciated. I have read a lot from your changes.txt file but these are unfortunately still questions to me and a bit messed up after read some pages in the internet about specifying the video types.

Please help. Thank you in advance.

jdobbs
22nd November 2013, 18:18
If having interlaced sources on a BD complaint disk as an extra content (for example marked as MPEG-4 (AVC), 480i, 29.97 fps in the streamlist) how to get to know within BD-RB if is hard-telecined, soft-telecined, interlaced, mixed progressive and telecine, mixed progressive and interlaced?

Does BD-RB automatically recognize all these types of content and handle accordingly? I know that it is possible to set up both manually and automatically IVTC on hard and soft telecined sources, but I do not know if it is an entirely automatic process made by BD-RB or I should manually check each extra content outside of BD-RB to know the exact video type and set up BD-RB accordingly?

Please help even it is not a bug related issue, it would be much appreciated. I have read a lot from your changes.txt file but these are unfortunately still questions to me and a bit messed up after read some pages in the internet about specifying the video types.

Please help. Thank you in advance.Yes BD-RB recognizes them and handles them. One note, though, there's really no good way to tell hard telecining other than user interaction and visual analysis of the source. But there is a hidden setting to instruct BD-RB to iVTC if it actually is hard telecined.

If a source is telecined you will see a "*" next to the frame rate in the stream list. If it is a hybrid you'll see "***". If it is a VC-1 source with telecining you'll see "**" (VC-1 telecined sources require special considerations). Deinterlacing depends upon whether you have it selected in the SETUP dialog.

mparade
22nd November 2013, 21:16
Yes BD-RB recognizes them and handles them. One note, though, there's really no good way to tell hard telecining other than user interaction and visual analysis of the source. But there is a hidden setting to instruct BD-RB to iVTC if it actually is hard telecined.

If a source is telecined you will see a "*" next to the frame rate in the stream list. If it is a hybrid you'll see "***". If it is a VC-1 source with telecining you'll see "**" (VC-1 telecined sources require special considerations). Deinterlacing depends upon whether you have it selected in the SETUP dialog.

Thanks for the answer!

Shylock
22nd November 2013, 23:36
Hello jdobbs,

I'm experiencing this bug for the first time. Processing "Cars" french realease. Selecting full backup with BDRB 045.05. The title is heavily fragmented with 3 diiferent angles for english, french and dutch versions.
The process went flawessly as always for me but the result bd25 is freezing reaching some point (just in the junction of titles 00148 and 00149) on my oppo bd 103 player.
I ripped the disk with the last AnyDVDHD and the result iso image plays flawessly on TMT6.
Reading the log from BDRB, I notice that some parts of the main movie, for example title 00150 and 00151, are skipped by BDRB. thes parts are the 2 "other angles" of title 00149, consisting in languages variant of the same clip. For that reason, a large part of the disk is left untouched and for the parts reencoded, the bitrate is drastically reduced.
I never experienced any of these 2 issues with another disk before.

BDRB .ini:
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=F:\BDWORK\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGdecodeNV\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGdecodeNV\DGDecodeNV.dll
[Options]
VERSION=0.45.0.5
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUTO_BURN=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;jpn;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
DTSX_ENABLE=1
MULTIPROCESS=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
DGDECNV=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=2
ALTCRF=20
ALT_TARGET=1000
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=80
FORCE_ENCODE=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1

RESIZE_1440=0
OUTPUT_3D=0


Joining the log

EDIT:
It seems that if i try to play angle 1 (english) everything is OK. every part was processed by BDRB when backing up. Playing other angles freezes every time the player switch from processed part to untouched one

Sharc
23rd November 2013, 08:58
@jdobbs
I did a backup to BD9 of an episodic BD with 4 episodes:
Quick menu and backdrop are perfect. However, when I select any of the 4 episodes playback does not start but just jumps to the next item in the Quick Menu. After Episode 4 it jumps back to the first menu button for Episode 1 and so on....

Before burning to disk, I decided to skip one of the languages and unselected one of the audio streams in the Stream tab of BD-RB, pressed the Backup button, and as expected BD-RB asked if I want to resume the previous job. Pressing YES, BD-RB redid the Multiplexing and authoring and finished as expected.
Could the deselection of one of the Audio tracks be the cause for the menu problem?

Secondly, I noticed that the menu backdrop for the Quick Menu on BD5/9 is encoded with keyint =250. Shouldn't it be 24 or 48 for BD compliance? Does it matter at all?

Edit:
Adding the skipped audio track back did not help. Still trapped in the Quick Menu.

Crocluvr92
23rd November 2013, 21:34
Uninstall all the codecs pack including ffdshow and Haali Matroska Splitter and then reinstall only ffdshow and Haali Matroska Splitter from forum first page.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1227473#post1227473 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1227473#post1227473)
I have uninstalled Both ffdshow and Haali Media Splitter and re-installed them and I did the codec settings as instructed on the initial page for download. Once I reinstalled both programs, I made sure VC-1 is set to "wmv9" and made sure Uncompressed Audio is set to " All Supported " . I also uninstalled CoreAVC and downloaded the new beta of BD Rebuilder v.0.45.05 and made sure all the Setup settings were correct and I know my heatsink on my PC is good and I have a good computer for this program to work, it has for the past 2 years. I have an AMD Athlon II X 240 2.80 GHz Processor with 8 GB of RAM and 1.72 TB of free space on my external hard drive with plenty of room and I have never had this issue like I have been continuing to have for the past three weeks. I don't know whats wrong, I have run a thorough virus scan and have no virus, I have run registry cleaner, and no problems and I even had diagnostics run on my computer including hard drives and found no errors. I have tried to compress the movies off of both the Disc folder and off of ISO files with a Virtual Drive. I have had no luck, so can someone please tell me any other suggestions of what could be going wrong and why I keep getting an H.264 (MPEG-4 AVC) encoder has stopped working error everytime BD Rebuilder tries to reencode? Here is my newest log


[11/23/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[14:32:37] Source: MATRIX_RELOADED
- Input BD size: 37.02 GB
- Approximate total content: [07:25:31.613]
- Target BD size: 23.31 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Better (Faster), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[14:32:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:32:39] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 55)
- [14:32:39] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 198,893 frames
- Bitrate: 8,201 Kbs
- [14:32:39] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[14:33:44] - Failed video encode, aborted

Sharc
23rd November 2013, 23:40
Replace the x264.exe by the version from here:
http://download.videolan.org/pub/x264/binaries/win32/

I had once a similar mystery and replacement by another x264 binary helped.

Crocluvr92
24th November 2013, 07:50
Replace the x264.exe by the version from here:
http://download.videolan.org/pub/x264/binaries/win32/

I had once a similar mystery and replacement by another x264 binary helped.
I am guessing you replace the x264.exe file in the BD Rebuilder folder with the new one? Because if thats the case, I already did that and still the same problem. I even did an Inspect with BD Rebuilder and still everything was fine as far as that was concerned, but as I just stated, still the same problem with an H.264 crash on reencode.

HWK
24th November 2013, 08:00
I am guessing you replace the x264.exe file in the BD Rebuilder folder with the new one? Because if thats the case, I already did that and still the same problem. I even did an Inspect with BD Rebuilder and still everything was fine as far as that was concerned, but as I just stated, still the same problem with an H.264 crash on reencode.

Try downloading one from http://www.x264.nl/x264_main.php
Make sure to choose 8 bit depth and 32 bit if os is 32 bit.

Crocluvr92
24th November 2013, 08:40
Try downloading one from http://www.x264.nl/x264_main.php
Make sure to choose 8 bit depth and 32 bit if os is 32 bit.
I have a 64-bit Version of Windows 7. Could you please give me the proper steps on how to do this? Thank you :)

HWK
24th November 2013, 08:52
I have a 64-bit Version of Windows 7. Could you please give me the proper steps on how to do this? Thank you :)

ok, lets start by downloading files I have provided link here

http://mirror01.x264.nl/x264/32bit/8bit_depth/revision2334/x264.exe # This will download 32 Bit
http://mirror01.x264.nl/x264/64bit/8bit_depth/revision2334/x264.exe # This will download 64 Bit

make sure to save second one as x264-64, instead of x264. Move both files in BD-RB tools folder and replace files in there. If done correctly windows will ask do you want to replace and say yes.

Capsbackup
24th November 2013, 15:02
My guess is your problem started with CoreAVC. Still, either another codec pack is overriding the necessary BD-RB settings or your anti-virus software is the cause.
Anti-virus software seems to be the cause of many BD-RB problems for many people. Anti-virus = anti-productive! :rolleyes:

gonca
24th November 2013, 15:35
Crocluvr92
What anti virus are you running?
The encode ran for 1:05 before stopping, maybe something external interfered.
As Capsbackup said
Anti-virus software seems to be the cause of many BD-RB problems for many people. Anti-virus = anti-productive!

HWK
24th November 2013, 19:07
The encode ran for 1:05 before stopping, maybe something external interfered.

Most likely it may be cpu, if its unstable this would occur.

Crocluvr92
24th November 2013, 19:34
Most likely it may be cpu, if its unstable this would occur.
I am running Norton, no virus detected but I have tried running the program with and without Norton on and I still get the same problem. Oh and I replaced both x264's offered by HWK and still the same problem. I don't what to do at this point.

Sharc
24th November 2013, 20:20
Is your PC overclocked?
Is the problem with this particular source only? What if you try another source?

Crocluvr92
24th November 2013, 20:28
Is your PC overclocked?
I don't think so. I had a full diagnostic run done by Best Buy and it used to work on compressing but not anymore.

Sharc
24th November 2013, 20:36
Hmmm... rest assured that x264 drives your CPU to the limits for hours more than diagnostic tools....
Anyway, try another source now and see if you still have the issue.

Crocluvr92
24th November 2013, 21:00
Hmmm... rest assured that x264 drives your CPU to the limits for hours more than diagnostic tools....
Anyway, try another source now and see if you still have the issue.
I am still having no luck. Thanks for your help everyone. I am going to just have to start burning full 50gb discs. It costs more, but compressing is obviously not going to work anymore. Again, Thanks.

HWK
24th November 2013, 21:07
Before you give up, can you create virtual machine and run encoding inside it. Since VM will be clean of any issues it would help a lot to see if it is something with OS, possibly at kernel level.

Crocluvr92
24th November 2013, 21:55
Before you give up, can you create virtual machine and run encoding inside it. Since VM will be clean of any issues it would help a lot to see if it is something with OS, possibly at kernel level.
Virtual Machine did not work either. I give up, thanks again everyone, I really appreciate it.

AmigaFuture
25th November 2013, 01:47
Virtual Machine did not work either. I give up, thanks again everyone, I really appreciate it.

You could rename the "BDREBUILDER.INI" file to something else, like putting an "!" as the first character. Then try running the program again. If you still notice challenges, rename or delete the BD_Rebuilder directory and extract again from the first page.
If you remove the BD Rebuilder directory, then uninstall the programs from the first page and reset your machine. Or shut down completely. Then start it again...and install everything from the instructions.
BestBuy isn't always the best at diagnosing... I've fixed programs they've created.

Anyway, unless you're really good with computers...I'd not suggest a Virtual Machine to test. Most people become even more confused when attempting to do so. Try those steps before quitting. Learning is fun...just remember to breathe and relax while doing so. :-)

jdobbs
25th November 2013, 02:35
Virtual Machine did not work either. I give up, thanks again everyone, I really appreciate it.
There's really only a couple of things that could cause X264 to fail after a full minute. The most probable is a system instability, the second is a corrupt source.

Crocluvr92
25th November 2013, 08:14
There's really only a couple of things that could cause X264 to fail after a full minute. The most probable is a system instability, the second is a corrupt source.
Firstly, the x264 fails the instant it tries to reencode, not a minute. And my system is not unstable. I have good RAM, I even tested it, my hard drives are non-plattered, and as for the source, I have tried to compress 11 titles and all of them seem to fail once it comes time to reencode, so as I said before, I cannot figure out what the problem is, its obvious that this software no longer works for me, so thank you all for your efforts, goodbye.

laserfan
25th November 2013, 23:53
Today I tried 45.05 on Silver Linings Playbook in Movie and Menus (Auto Blank Extras) and Edit Mode (Manual Blanking) both selected, and managed to blank the main movie. Turns out that I'd Previewed it and instead of playing the Multi-Ch Engish DTS track, the preview mplayer used the French track that had been de-selected, which threw me off and so I accidentally blanked it w/o looking more closely.

Later I look at the mplayer header where it shows MPC_VIEW.AVS which is this:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.45.05 (beta)
DirectshowSource("V:\BDMV\STREAM\00006.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=175671)
BicubicResize(480,270)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

If I open and play 00006.m2ts (in the original disc) using BD-RB's mplayer it too plays the French track when I do that. But if I use instead my Media Player Classic - Home Cinema to open the file, it plays the English track as expected (though it "can't render file" if I try to open your .AVS file). Is this maybe an issue with the old media player you're using? I don't see anything in the .avs that determines audio track so am not sure why it should play this 2nd audiotrack the way it does.

BTW I am frequently confused when Previewing each of the VID_XXXXX which I always do, because when I right-click on each and select Preview This Item and the MPC_VIEW.AVS opens in Media Player Classic, the highlighting in the BD-RB window is lost until the Preview is closed and the BD-RB window is selected again. It would be nice if either the highlighting in the BD-RB window could be retained (i.e. stay blue-highlighted while mplayer is playing), or if the header of mpc player would show the VID number, so I know for sure which VID it is that I am previewing. I do typically get lost when Previewing and end-up re-playing some of the clips to be sure...

jdobbs
26th November 2013, 02:00
Today I tried 45.05 on Silver Linings Playbook in Movie and Menus (Auto Blank Extras) and Edit Mode (Manual Blanking) both selected, and managed to blank the main movie. Turns out that I'd Previewed it and instead of playing the Multi-Ch Engish DTS track, the preview mplayer used the French track that had been de-selected, which threw me off and so I accidentally blanked it w/o looking more closely.

Later I look at the mplayer header where it shows MPC_VIEW.AVS which is this:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.45.05 (beta)
DirectshowSource("V:\BDMV\STREAM\00006.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=175671)
BicubicResize(480,270)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

If I open and play 00006.m2ts (in the original disc) using BD-RB's mplayer it too plays the French track when I do that. But if I use instead my Media Player Classic - Home Cinema to open the file, it plays the English track as expected (though it "can't render file" if I try to open your .AVS file). Is this maybe an issue with the old media player you're using? I don't see anything in the .avs that determines audio track so am not sure why it should play this 2nd audiotrack the way it does.

BTW I am frequently confused when Previewing each of the VID_XXXXX which I always do, because when I right-click on each and select Preview This Item and the MPC_VIEW.AVS opens in Media Player Classic, the highlighting in the BD-RB window is lost until the Preview is closed and the BD-RB window is selected again. It would be nice if either the highlighting in the BD-RB window could be retained (i.e. stay blue-highlighted while mplayer is playing), or if the header of mpc player would show the VID number, so I know for sure which VID it is that I am previewing. I do typically get lost when Previewing and end-up re-playing some of the clips to be sure...
Unfortunately in viewing it just plays back whichever audio track happens to be first in the stream. Most of the time that's English -- but not always. The preview is really just to find help find which stream has what content and it doesn't do much else.

The highlighting acivity is controlled by the O/S rather than the app... And it likely is unhighlighted because it loses focus. I'll see if I can set the focus back just before making the call to MPC.

Crocluvr92
26th November 2013, 09:49
Ok, I haven't given up completely but can someone at least tell me why it will reencode all the way until it gets to the main title? It does this on every single title I have. It ALWAYS gives me the H.264 Has Stopped Working error once it gets there. Here is my log:

----------------------
[11/26/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[01:27:17] Source: SOURCE_CODE
- Input BD size: 26.93 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:55:14.390]
- Target BD size: 23.31 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[01:27:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:27:19] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 13)
- [01:27:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [01:27:48] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- [01:27:48] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,235 frames
- Bitrate: 22,439 Kbs
- [01:27:55] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:30:33] Video Encode complete
- [01:30:33] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 6656 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [01:30:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:30:44] Remuxing DTSX/IGS stream(s)
- [01:31:08] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 13)
- [01:31:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [01:31:23] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [01:31:23] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 559 frames
- Bitrate: 22,739 Kbs
- [01:31:27] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:32:36] Video Encode complete
- [01:32:36] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 6656 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [01:32:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:32:43] Remuxing DTSX/IGS stream(s)
- [01:32:54] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 13)
- [01:32:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [01:34:01] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- [01:34:01] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,989 frames
- Bitrate: 22,827 Kbs
- [01:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:45:10] Video Encode complete
- [01:45:10] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 6656 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [01:45:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:45:35] Remuxing DTSX/IGS stream(s)
- [01:46:34] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 13)
- [01:46:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [02:19:37] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- [02:19:37] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 93,629 frames
- Bitrate: 23,302 Kbs
- [02:45:30] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[02:47:39] - Failed video encode, aborted

varekai
26th November 2013, 10:24
I can feel your frustration!
The only times I had x264 crash the way you are describing it's all about my overclocked CPU.
When I lower the clock frequency just a few notches all is well.
So if you havn't tried that give it a shot.

Crocluvr92
26th November 2013, 10:34
I can feel your frustration!
The only times I had x264 crash the way you are describing it's all about my overclocked CPU.
When I lower the clock frequency just a few notches all is well.
So if you havn't tried that give it a shot.
It's not overclocked! I have NO idea why this is happening, my RAM is fine, nothing new has been installed on my computer other than reinstalling the three programs required, the log is correct, I know what I'm doing, I just can't understand why it's doing this to me! I have no viruses, my disks are defragmented, my computer is not lagging and is running just fine, but on every single movie it does this, so what could it be??????

gonca
26th November 2013, 11:52
Do you have any codec packs, coreavc or any such things installed.

laserfan
26th November 2013, 14:26
Unfortunately in viewing it just plays back whichever audio track happens to be first in the stream. Most of the time that's English -- but not always.
I wonder then how MPC-HC knows to open the English track. Anyway I will be more careful in the future.

The highlighting acivity is controlled by the O/S rather than the app... And it likely is unhighlighted because it loses focus. I'll see if I can set the focus back just before making the call to MPC.
I figured it might not be your issue. Thanks for looking. :)

rendez2k
26th November 2013, 15:40
jdobbs, remember I mentioned about my Sony BR player not displaying the buttons on QP menus? Well, today I purchased a Samsung BD-F6500 standalone. I now have the opposite issue! The disc buttons come up, but no background. Clicking on the buttons return back to the menu and won't play anything! I've only tested one BD-R 25GB disc so far, but that works great in PDVD 13. Any thoughts or anyone else with this player who can test for me?

HWK
26th November 2013, 18:12
Ok, I haven't given up completely but can someone at least tell me why it will reencode all the way until it gets to the main title? It does this on every single title I have. It ALWAYS gives me the H.264 Has Stopped Working error once it gets there. Here is my log:

----------------------
[11/26/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[01:27:17] Source: SOURCE_CODE
- Input BD size: 26.93 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:55:14.390]
- Target BD size: 23.31 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[01:27:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:27:19] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 13)
- [01:27:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [01:27:48] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- [01:27:48] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,235 frames
- Bitrate: 22,439 Kbs
- [01:27:55] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:30:33] Video Encode complete
- [01:30:33] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 6656 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [01:30:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:30:44] Remuxing DTSX/IGS stream(s)
- [01:31:08] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 13)
- [01:31:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [01:31:23] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [01:31:23] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 559 frames
- Bitrate: 22,739 Kbs
- [01:31:27] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:32:36] Video Encode complete
- [01:32:36] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 6656 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [01:32:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:32:43] Remuxing DTSX/IGS stream(s)
- [01:32:54] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 13)
- [01:32:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [01:34:01] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- [01:34:01] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,989 frames
- Bitrate: 22,827 Kbs
- [01:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:45:10] Video Encode complete
- [01:45:10] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (spa): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 6656 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [01:45:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:45:35] Remuxing DTSX/IGS stream(s)
- [01:46:34] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 13)
- [01:46:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [02:19:37] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- [02:19:37] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 93,629 frames
- Bitrate: 23,302 Kbs
- [02:45:30] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[02:47:39] - Failed video encode, aborted

Currently you are using 32 bit of X.264, let try 64-bit since it decode video without relying on directshow.

gonca
26th November 2013, 21:23
Firstly, the x264 fails the instant it tries to reencode, not a minute. And my system is not unstable. I have good RAM, I even tested it, my hard drives are non-plattered, and as for the source, I have tried to compress 11 titles and all of them seem to fail once it comes time to reencode, so as I said before, I cannot figure out what the problem is, its obvious that this software no longer works for me, so thank you all for your efforts, goodbye.

Are your drives SSD's?

A.Fenderson
27th November 2013, 02:29
It's not overclocked! I have NO idea why this is happening, my RAM is fine, nothing new has been installed on my computer other than reinstalling the three programs required, the log is correct, I know what I'm doing, I just can't understand why it's doing this to me! I have no viruses, my disks are defragmented, my computer is not lagging and is running just fine, but on every single movie it does this, so what could it be??????

Have you actually monitored your CPU core temps, and/or visually inspected your CPU's heat-sink? My pc started balking during encodes recently, and then I noticed my CPU heatsink was almost totally clogged with dust--blowing it out fixed everything.

HWK
27th November 2013, 04:27
Have you actually monitored your CPU core temps, and/or visually inspected your CPU's heat-sink? My pc started balking during encodes recently, and then I noticed my CPU heatsink was almost totally clogged with dust--blowing it out fixed everything.

I don't think this is the cause of problem here. Since Crocluvr92 can encode extras from video just fine and as soon as it start main movie encode it crashes and according to Crocluvr92 it is happening on all movie title he has tried.

RobertM
27th November 2013, 05:38
Since Crocluvr92 can encode extras from video just fine and as soon as it start main movie encode it crashes...

I wonder what would happen if he tried to encode ONLY the main title; movie-only mode? We might expect that it would crash immediately, based on his previous attempts, but it might be worth a try.

Crocluvr92
27th November 2013, 09:09
Do you have any codec packs, coreavc or any such things installed. I do not have other codecs, My drives are SSD's, I have tried all four versions x264 with replacing them in the Tools folder and they all fail as well. I also tried movie only and that fails too after reencode. It does this on my movies, not just one. My PC is cleaned out, I used compressed air, I even went to CompUSA today and bought some new Antec paste for my CPU and fan, I tried using my BluRay Source from the source folder from hard drive and from ISO format running on a Virtual Drive and still NOTHING works! Now do you all understand why I want to give up?

gonca
27th November 2013, 11:37
My drives are SSD's

Do you have a Samsung 840 EVO or Samsung Magician on your system?

mparade
27th November 2013, 12:33
Good news. That makes me 3 for 3!

My next project is full 3D backup support...

My player is capable of playing flawlessly "Full 3D" content without any resize of the frames. Could you ensure a hidden option in the future (like Full_3D) to make Full 3D backup (not movie-only backups but with menus, extras) with "full sized frames" (without any resize of the frames)? I know it violates the BD specs, but it can surely be playable on the newest media tanks. And on top of it all, if I set the output to non-3D on my player I am sure that I can play flawlessly a Full 3D content disk in 2D mode as it were according to BD 3D specs (we discussed in the 3D discussion forum). This way "full detailed full disk 3D backups" could easily be produced using the power of x264. For sure such contents could only be played on certain players.

I would really appreaciate it.

RobertM
27th November 2013, 14:08
My drives are SSD's

SSDs are usually pretty small. You do have room for all of the extract, working files and rebuild? I would say you need 100GB free space to be comfortable.

jdobbs
27th November 2013, 14:13
My player is capable of playing flawlessly "Full 3D" content without any resize of the frames. Could you ensure a hidden option in the future (like Full_3D) to make Full 3D backup (not movie-only backups but with menus, extras) with "full sized frames" (without any resize of the frames)? I know it violates the BD specs, but it can surely be playable on the newest media tanks. And on top of it all, if I set the output to non-3D on my player I am sure that I can play flawlessly a Full 3D content disk in 2D mode as it were according to BD 3D specs (we discussed in the 3D discussion forum). This way "full detailed full disk 3D backups" could easily be produced using the power of x264. For sure such contents could only be played on certain players.

I would really appreaciate it.
Sorry, But I have no plans to create a BD disc that is not compliant. That's just asking for trouble. I do, however, plan to create a version that builds full resolution backups that ARE BD compliant.

mparade
27th November 2013, 15:52
Sorry, But I have no plans to create a BD disc that is not compliant. That's just asking for trouble. I do, however, plan to create a version that builds full resolution backups that ARE BD compliant.

I see Mr. Dobbs, and sent 40 extra bucks to support having that function the sooner. :)

Crocluvr92
27th November 2013, 16:15
SSDs are usually pretty small. You do have room for all of the extract, working files and rebuild? I would say you need 100GB free space to be comfortable.


I have almost 1TB of free space for working and storing, thank you very much.

jdobbs
27th November 2013, 16:24
I have almost 1TB of free space for working and storing, thank you very much.
You really need to look at overheating. I know you don't want it to be a system stability issue... but everything points that way. When it works for a while before it crashes with the same type of video source (as you logs show), that's far and away the most likely cause.

Chuckwagon
27th November 2013, 17:15
I have almost 1TB of free space for working and storing, thank you very much.

I didn't see in your posts if you've tried this or not, but have you run x264 by itself, without running BDRB? If so, what errors did it display, if any?

RobertM
27th November 2013, 17:57
I didn't see in your posts if you've tried this or not, but have you run x264 by itself, without running BDRB? If so, what errors did it display, if any?

Another idea is to run a trial where x264 out of the loop. Set a custom target size of 50GB so no encoding will be necessary and see if the job completes correctly.

gonca
27th November 2013, 22:43
Crocluvr92
Do you have Samsung SSDs with Samsung magician software running on your system?

Audiophile1178
29th November 2013, 08:48
Crocluvr92, do you have another mechanical HDD to use and try? Whenever I'm diagnosing a computer issue (or any other issue) I find it's best to always strip everything down to the bare minimum and start from there and SLOWLY put one piece in at a time until you find what's causing the issue.

If I was in your situation this is what I'd do:

1. Make sure you're running at stock settings on your motherboard. This step isn't fully accurate as you still might have to do some fine tuning to keep it stable. For instance, when I built my new PC I couldn't run any CPU intensive tasks as the CPU vdroop was causing all sorts of freezing. I had to enable LLC at medium settings to offset vdroop enough just to run at stock as anything lower and my PC would freeze.
2. Get the SSD out of the equation and try a traditional mechanical HDD.
3. I don't know how much memory you're running but try using only one stick.

Regarding RAM, you stated that you tested it but you didn't state how you tested it or maybe I overlooked it. Did you use the newest Memtest (5.00 RC1) for your test? Also, when you tested your RAM did you test 1 stick at a time and run memtest for several hours doing multiple passes? I find that it's best to do 1 stick at a time so that you know for sure which stick is bad (if any).

Link to latest memtest versions:

http://www.memtest.org/download/beta/


BTW, I have my PC (AMD FX-8350) overclocked to 4.8GHz and can run BDRebuilder ALL DAY LONG without issues as well as other people so I think that it's probably hardware related. Now with that being said, my PC isn't 100% stable as I can't pass certain benchmarking tests but for everyday use I've never experience any issues. I'm currently running a disc through BDRebuilder as I type this.

P.S., Do what you want with the above info as I'm merely trying to help as diagnosing computer issues is never fun and is definitely time consuming.




One a side note, can you complete an entire run of x264 benchmark?

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=520

mtbgtr
29th November 2013, 16:01
I have read through all the posts, guides and FAQ's and have seen similar issues with other discs and may have missed the fix. I cannot make a movie-only BD-25 backup of Thor. I only get an 8GB m2ts file in the Stream folder. I apologize if this has already been answered.

slvrsrfr
29th November 2013, 21:44
Hi, Jdobbs,

I'm experiencing the same issue as rendez2k, re: this post:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1654202#post1654202

I have 3 standalone players, and the titles on the menu show correctly only on one player, which happens to be the newest one I purchased back in June. On the other 2 players, I only see the menu background picture.jpg. However, on the latter 2 players, if I enter in a number for a title, e.g. 6, the player will start title 6. On this particular BD-R, I have 12 episodes of Carivale Season 1, that were ripped from 6 DVDs (2 episodes/disc) using anydvd.

These are my 3 bd players, with #1 being the player that works as expected:

1) Sony BDP-S3100
2) Panasonic DMP-BDT210
3) Sony BDP-BX57

Please let me know if you want any other info - I'm super excited about the ability to compile/merge DVDs like this; I've been wanting to do this for a long time, and haven't had success w/ other programs!!! Thanks, JDOBBS!!!

wakko709
30th November 2013, 06:17
[11/29/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[19:36:35] Source: UNDER_THE_DOME_SEASON_1_DISC_3
- Input BD size: 23.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:53.642]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:36:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:36:37] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 4)
- [19:36:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [19:40:01] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 60,262 frames
- Bitrate: 19,899 Kbs
- [19:40:01] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:18:11] Video Encode complete
- [20:18:11] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [20:18:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:22:37] Processing: VID_00001 (2 of 4)
- [20:22:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [20:26:29] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 59,353 frames
- Bitrate: 21,235 Kbs
- [20:26:29] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:03:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:03:04] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [21:03:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:07:34] Processing: VID_00002 (3 of 4)
- [21:07:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [21:11:56] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [21:11:56] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:11:56] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [21:11:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
- Can't open file: E:\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264
[21:11:59] - Failed to build structure, aborted
---------------------
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

RobertM
30th November 2013, 14:33
[11/29/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[19:36:35] Source: UNDER_THE_DOME_SEASON_1_DISC_3
<SNIP>
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
- Can't open file: E:\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264
[21:11:59] - Failed to build structure, aborted


This problem, where files seem to get lost after they are created, has been reported before. I think JD is currently working on it.

wakko709
1st December 2013, 00:12
okay.

jdobbs
1st December 2013, 14:05
This problem, where files seem to get lost after they are created, has been reported before. I think JD is currently working on it.But it was fixed in the last release...

RobertM
1st December 2013, 14:18
But it was fixed in the last release...

Hmm.... Wakko is using the latest release, but his symptoms seem eerily familiar. It wasn't a common problem, to be sure. Only happened to me once, I believe.

jdobbs
1st December 2013, 14:27
Hmm.... Wakko is using the latest release, but his symptoms seem eerily familiar. It wasn't a common problem, to be sure. Only happened to me once, I believe.That error was exactly that was happening. I'll have to check and see if there is another way it could occur.

Shylock
1st December 2013, 20:08
@jdobbs

I'm having another issue when trying to backup my Disney/Pixar blu-ray collection.
This time it's with Brave. It's different from the bug I decribed in my unanswered post #18444.
The disc, Region B french release of "Brave" was ripped with AnyDVDHD 7.3.7.0 and the resulting iso image is playing fine.
BDRB processed the disc to the end reporting no issue whatsoever.
The resulting Blu-ray plays fine until it reaches almost the end. At this point, both on TMT 6 and my standalone player, it freezes for few seconds, then it resumes. The same bug a couple of minutes later, and then, flawessly to the end.
I notice that these bugs occurs at the junction of different m2ts parts of the disc.
Tryed to process again, but this time, just for test, I selected a BD50 target to avoid reencoding of video. The resulting Blu-ray issued the same bugs.
I join the .ini and the log

[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=F:\BDWORK\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGdecodeNV\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGdecodeNV\DGDecodeNV.dll
[Options]
VERSION=0.45.0.5
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUTO_BURN=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;jpn;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
DTSX_ENABLE=1
MULTIPROCESS=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
TARGET_SIZE=47366
DGDECNV=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=2
ALTCRF=20
ALT_TARGET=1000
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=30
ENABLE_BLANKING=1

RESIZE_1440=0
OUTPUT_3D=0

HWK
2nd December 2013, 03:50
@jdobbs

I'm having another issue when trying to backup my Disney/Pixar blu-ray collection.
This time it's with Brave. It's different from the bug I decribed in my unanswered post #18444.
The disc, Region B french release of "Brave" was ripped with AnyDVDHD 7.3.7.0 and the resulting iso image is playing fine.
BDRB processed the disc to the end reporting no issue whatsoever.
The resulting Blu-ray plays fine until it reaches almost the end. At this point, both on TMT 6 and my standalone player, it freezes for few seconds, then it resumes. The same bug a couple of minutes later, and then, flawessly to the end.
I notice that these bugs occurs at the junction of different m2ts parts of the disc.
Tryed to process again, but this time, just for test, I selected a BD50 target to avoid reencoding of video. The resulting Blu-ray issued the same bugs.
I join the .ini and the log

[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=F:\BDWORK\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGdecodeNV\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGdecodeNV\DGDecodeNV.dll
[Options]
VERSION=0.45.0.5
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUTO_BURN=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;jpn;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
DTSX_ENABLE=1
MULTIPROCESS=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
TARGET_SIZE=47366
DGDECNV=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=2
ALTCRF=20
ALT_TARGET=1000
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=30
ENABLE_BLANKING=1

RESIZE_1440=0
OUTPUT_3D=0

I recommend use tsmuxer to combine all files into one and use that for BD-RB. This will eliminate seamless branching from disc and see if it works for you.

1. Open mpls file in tsmuxer, not sure which one uses BDInfo to find out.
2. Choose output to Blu-ray folder with in tsmuxer.
3. Select blu-ray folder as a source for BD-RB.

Just a note, doing this will only backup movie only.

jdobbs
2nd December 2013, 04:44
I recommend use tsmuxer to combine all files into one and use that for BD-RB. This will eliminate seamless branching from disc and see if it works for you.

1. Open mpls file in tsmuxer, not sure which one uses BDInfo to find out.
2. Choose output to Blu-ray folder with in tsmuxer.
3. Select blu-ray folder as a source for BD-RB.

Just a note, doing this will only backup movie only.I'm not sure how that will help -- since BD-RB also uses tsmuxer to combine the files for movie-only, and you can't do a combine for a full backup (without reauthoring and eliminating its original structure).

HWK
2nd December 2013, 04:58
I'm not sure how that will help -- since BD-RB also uses tsmuxer to combine the files for movie-only, and you can't do a combine for a full backup (without reauthoring and eliminating its original structure).

New version of tsmuxer handle it differently. Especially if it is True-HD track and since Brave does have True-HD, it might help in this case, that is why suggested try that and see how it goes.

jdobbs
2nd December 2013, 05:00
New version of tsmuxer handle it differently. Especially if it is True-HD track and since Brave does have True-HD, it might help in this case, that is why suggested try that and see how it goes.Handles differently how? Does it keep the multiple parts separate? The OP was doing a full backup.

HWK
2nd December 2013, 05:02
Handles differently how? Does it keep the multiple parts separate?

From version 2.1.8
version 2.1.8(b)
- Fixed join files problem with True-HD track
- introduce MAC build

Which leads me to believe earlier version may have problem with this track.

jdobbs
2nd December 2013, 05:04
Oh, I see.

I'm hoping to use v2.4.1 for the next release. But I'll have to do a lot of testing to make sure there aren't any surprises. If required I may keep two versions and it will be used only for 3D backups.

Shylock
2nd December 2013, 08:14
Thanks for your awnsers

After looking more closely to the disc structure, Mediainfo reports that the french audio track is an E-AC3 track.
If I try to load any m2ts from this disc to tsmuxer using gui, it fails to recognize the french audio track and therefore dont process it.
Strangely, through BDRB, it's demuxed and remuxed by the same tsmuxer.
Is it possible that the bug is a tsmuxer issue and NOT a BDRB one.
In that case, I may post this issue in the right place.

Edit:
Tryed to process full backup again but keeping only english audio track: Backup plays fine to the end this time, so I guess the problem resides in tsmuxer dealing with E-AC3 french audio track

HWK
2nd December 2013, 11:58
Which Tsmuxer you used for this purpose.

Shylock
2nd December 2013, 12:20
I tryed the "old" version..the one included within BDRB.
with the new beta 2.4.1, It's reading every track.
As BDRB doesn't use the new one, that's why I report the bug.
BTW, can we use the new TsMuxer beta with BDRB?

HWK
2nd December 2013, 12:23
I tryed the "old" version..the one included within BDRB.
with the new beta 2.4.1, It's reading every track.
As BDRB doesn't use the new one, that's why I report the bug.
BTW, can we use the new TsMuxer beta with BDRB?

Ok, that is good. In this case I just recommend use new version instead of old one. Jdobbs is planning to support it, might as well use it.

Just a reminder old meta file generated by BD-RB may not work with new version of tsmuxer. So replacing tsmuxer under tools folder is not enough if this happens.

Shylock
2nd December 2013, 13:41
Tryed replacing tsmuxer.exe in the "tools" directory for the latest beta one.
Process went all through...but the resulting blu-ray is unplayable.
Thanks anyway

HWK
2nd December 2013, 17:33
Tryed replacing tsmuxer.exe in the "tools" directory for the latest beta one.
Process went all through...but the resulting blu-ray is unplayable.
Thanks anyway

Unplayable, error message or anything which you saw on screen. Just saying it doesn't play does not mean much and it certainly doesn't help any of us. I have done dozen of mux and never had issue in playback. However meta file generated by BD-RB may cause problem with new version.

Need to do more checks on this matter.

Shylock
2nd December 2013, 17:58
OK, that's what happen:
First title plays (Disney logo and language/angle selection) selecting whatever angle/language -> black screen
possible to select "title menu" on remote -> menu screen
Selecting "play"-> black screen and no more action possible.
Selecting whatever chapter point: same issue as "play"

HWK
2nd December 2013, 20:37
This is off course from movie Brave, but is there any special case for example disc being 3D or region of disc or country. I would like to try it and see what happens.

In the meantime can you try movie only.

Shylock
2nd December 2013, 21:02
Yes, It's from the same disc: "Brave" Region B, 2D french release.
BTW, I own also the Region A, Canadian bilingual release, which is different (other langage tracks and menu). I tried this disc also this afternoon and get the very same result in both case (old and new tsmuxer). Note that both french canadian and french tracks are E-AC3 encoded on each disc.
I'll try movie only backup with the 2 tsmuxer and see what will happen.

HWK
2nd December 2013, 21:10
Yes, It's from the same disc: "Brave" Region B, 2D french release.
BTW, I own also the Region A, Canadian bilingual release, which is different (other langage tracks and menu). I tried this disc also this afternoon and get the very same result in both case (old and new tsmuxer). Note that both french canadian and french tracks are E-AC3 encoded on each disc.
I'll try movie only backup with the 2 tsmuxer and see what will happen.

Are you gone use BD-RB to do movie only backup? If so I can do remux and and see if it works, if success then I will try to rebuild with BD-RB as well.

Shylock
2nd December 2013, 21:39
Yes, I'll try BDRB for movie only. My computer is processing now. To speed up the process, I've set a BD50 target, it will skip reencoding procedure.

EDIT:
When using "old" tsmuxer in BDRB: process done flawessly. Resulting Blu-ray start to play OK on TMT6, but chapter navigation is jerky and I was unable to go to the end of the movie-> TMT6 ends crashing
When using "latest" tsmuxer in BDRB: Process seems to go fine except it somehow hangs when rebuilding. Went to to the end anyway after a while reporting no errors, but the resulting Blu-ray crashes immediately TMT6 and I see that the m2ts is only 8gb instead of 25gb. When playing the m2ts manually with MPC-HC, it shows no video but only audio...
The 2 logs and .inf files are absolutely identical.

[12/02/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[21:04:31] Source: BRAVE_00801
- Input BD size: 24,72 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:12.229]
- Target BD size: 46,26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:04:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:04:33] Processing: VID_00952 (1 of 9)
- [21:04:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00952]
- [21:29:23] Reencoding video [VID_00952]
- [21:29:23] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:29:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [21:29:23] Processing: VID_00960 (2 of 9)
- [21:29:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00960]
- [21:29:32] Reencoding video [VID_00960]
- [21:29:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:29:32] Processing: VID_00954 (3 of 9)
- [21:29:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00954]
- [21:30:06] Reencoding video [VID_00954]
- [21:30:06] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:30:06] Processing: VID_00961 (4 of 9)
- [21:30:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00961]
- [21:30:21] Reencoding video [VID_00961]
- [21:30:21] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:30:21] Processing: VID_00956 (5 of 9)
- [21:30:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00956]
- [21:42:28] Reencoding video [VID_00956]
- [21:42:28] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:42:28] Processing: VID_00962 (6 of 9)
- [21:42:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00962]
- [21:42:59] Reencoding video [VID_00962]
- [21:42:59] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:42:59] Processing: VID_00958 (7 of 9)
- [21:42:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00958]
- [21:43:47] Reencoding video [VID_00958]
- [21:43:48] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:43:48] Processing: VID_00968 (8 of 9)
- [21:43:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00968]
- [21:43:57] Reencoding video [VID_00968]
- [21:43:57] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:43:57] Processing: VID_00959 (9 of 9)
- [21:43:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00959]
- [21:44:10] Reencoding video [VID_00959]
- [21:44:10] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[21:44:10]PHASE ONE complete
[21:44:10]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:44:10] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[21:59:17] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[21:59:17] JOB: BRAVE finished.
----------------------
[12/02/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[22:04:53] Source: BRAVE_00801
- Input BD size: 24,72 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:12.229]
- Target BD size: 46,26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:04:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:04:54] Processing: VID_00952 (1 of 9)
- [22:04:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00952]
- [22:19:14] Reencoding video [VID_00952]
- [22:19:14] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:19:14] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4356 (fra): Keeping original audio
- Track 4358 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [22:19:14] Processing: VID_00960 (2 of 9)
- [22:19:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00960]
- [22:19:23] Reencoding video [VID_00960]
- [22:19:23] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:19:23] Processing: VID_00954 (3 of 9)
- [22:19:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00954]
- [22:19:55] Reencoding video [VID_00954]
- [22:19:55] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:19:55] Processing: VID_00961 (4 of 9)
- [22:19:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00961]
- [22:20:09] Reencoding video [VID_00961]
- [22:20:09] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:20:09] Processing: VID_00956 (5 of 9)
- [22:20:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00956]
- [22:32:13] Reencoding video [VID_00956]
- [22:32:13] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:32:13] Processing: VID_00962 (6 of 9)
- [22:32:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00962]
- [22:32:43] Reencoding video [VID_00962]
- [22:32:43] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:32:43] Processing: VID_00958 (7 of 9)
- [22:32:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00958]
- [22:33:32] Reencoding video [VID_00958]
- [22:33:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:33:32] Processing: VID_00968 (8 of 9)
- [22:33:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00968]
- [22:33:42] Reencoding video [VID_00968]
- [22:33:42] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:33:42] Processing: VID_00959 (9 of 9)
- [22:33:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00959]
- [22:33:54] Reencoding video [VID_00959]
- [22:33:54] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[22:33:54]PHASE ONE complete
[22:33:54]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:33:54] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[22:41:36] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:41:36] JOB: BRAVE finished.
--------------------------------
[Status]
LABEL=BRAVE
VERSION=v0.45.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=26546915328
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=26546915328
TARGET_SIZE=49666850816
REDUCTION=1.87090854821895
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=3
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=9
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00952]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1111101
PGS=11111111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=461967014
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00960]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=237184985
AUDIO=1111101
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00954]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=1575681215
AUDIO=1111101
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00961]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=586720752
AUDIO=1111101
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00956]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=42014859041
AUDIO=1111101
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=282200273
[00962]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=1491722742
AUDIO=1111101
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00958]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2554445735
AUDIO=1111101
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00968]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=290337227
AUDIO=1111101
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00959]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=453932105
AUDIO=1111101
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

HWK
3rd December 2013, 00:05
Most likely it is meta file generated by BD-RB for tsmuxer which is causing problem, after all I remember reading old meta file has problem with new version of tsmuxer.

I ran some test as well and I have things to share, If I use old tsmuxer and then my outcome is similar to yours, playback is not playable. What works for me is use new version and create iso with muxer by reading mpls file and then use this iso to feed it to BD-RB. In first step eliminate seamless branching with new muxer and then use BD-RB on that as if it was same title with one large file for movie.

Doing this will keep movie only though.

Shylock
3rd December 2013, 07:37
OK, thanks HWK
I will try your workaround.
In conclusion, I think it's definitely not a BD-RB bug but more likely a tsmuxer issue when dealing with E-AC3 audio and seamless branching titles. The 2 only discs not working for me are "Brave" and "Monsters University". they share those 2 criterias.
As my purpose is to get a full backup with menus, I'll just wait for jdobbs to update his wonderfull piece of software with the new tsmuxer and give another shot to these titles.

BTW, many thanks jdobbs for your software, adding a $30 contribution. I hope it will help developping. I long to see full 3D backup working.

wakko709
4th December 2013, 00:17
----------------------
[12/03/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[14:26:13] Source: 00000078_TERMINATOR
- Input BD size: 23.03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:42:34.035]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:26:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:26:16] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 7)
- [14:26:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:26:28] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [14:26:28] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:26:28] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:26:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
- Can't open file: E:\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264
[14:26:31] - Failed to build structure, aborted
----------------------
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

HWK
4th December 2013, 00:52
- Can't open file: E:\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264


It seems BD-RB failed because it can't find this file. Double check it still exist in it's location.

jdobbs
4th December 2013, 18:15
----------------------
[12/03/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[14:26:13] Source: 00000078_TERMINATOR
- Input BD size: 23.03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:42:34.035]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:26:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:26:16] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 7)
- [14:26:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:26:28] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [14:26:28] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:26:28] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:26:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
- Can't open file: E:\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264
[14:26:31] - Failed to build structure, aborted
----------------------
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: OkThat's two reports, both from you, where this has happened. Can you describe you setup so I can see if there is anything unique about it?

RobertM
4th December 2013, 19:37
That's two reports, both from you, where this has happened. Can you describe you setup so I can see if there is anything unique about it?

Looking at this more closely, Wakko's reports are different than what I experienced in the past. In my case it happened after the processing of the individual components was finished, and BD-RB was trying to rebuild the BD file structure. Wakko's problems happen during the processing of the individual components, and on components where the original video was kept intact, without re-encoding. This does not seem to be the same problem that was reported before, although the error message looks similar.

wakko709
5th December 2013, 02:56
no nothing unique about the insistent

wakko709
5th December 2013, 05:10
----------------------
[12/04/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[18:22:58] Source: UNDER_THE_DOME_SEASON_1_DISC_3
- Input BD size: 23.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:53.642]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[18:23:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:23:02] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 4)
- [18:23:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [18:27:07] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 60,262 frames
- Bitrate: 19,899 Kbs
- [18:27:07] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:06:51] Video Encode complete
- [19:06:51] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:06:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:10:42] Processing: VID_00001 (2 of 4)
- [19:10:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [19:14:42] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 59,353 frames
- Bitrate: 21,235 Kbs
- [19:14:42] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:52:55] Video Encode complete
- [19:52:55] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [19:52:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:57:41] Processing: VID_00002 (3 of 4)
- [19:57:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [20:02:52] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [20:02:52] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [20:02:52] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [20:02:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
- Can't open file: E:\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264
[20:02:55] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------------
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
okay I have reinstalled every the jdobbs has listed.

jdobbs
5th December 2013, 14:00
no nothing unique about the insistentThat doesn't make sense. I am getting no other reports of this... and it seems to be happening a lot with your setup.

omegaman7
5th December 2013, 20:33
I believe I've seen that error, with a bad rip. Usually it happens after some time, not immediately. But bad rips can cause some strange behavior. Sort of like bad memory sticks can cause weird behavior.

Ahh! No video encode. It usually is an audio problem too! I'm even more likely to believe a bad rip :p

rysktkr
8th December 2013, 18:13
I am trying to run BD Rebuilder. Each time I try and run it I get a dialog box that pops up saying "System Error Microsoft Installer Error was encountered" I am running Windows 7 and also ran the inspect script and everything seems to be installed correctly. I also ran as admin and same error.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

gonca
8th December 2013, 18:33
rysktr
Does this error mention any applications. How about event viewer?
This error is not a BR_RB error, it is most likely an installation gone awry on your system.

jdobbs
8th December 2013, 20:37
@rysktr

That error isn't coming from BD-RB, Microsoft Installer isn't referenced in any way... I'd suggest you go to the first page of this thread and re-install everything.

wakko709
8th December 2013, 21:34
That doesn't make sense. I am getting no other reports of this... and it seems to be happening a lot with your setup.

Ive tried re-installing.

wakko709
8th December 2013, 22:26
Ive tried re-installing \.

every thing except bd rebuider!

wakko709
9th December 2013, 00:37
----------------------
[12/08/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[12:36:20] Source: UNDER_THE_DOME_SEASON_1_DISC_3
- Input BD size: 23.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:53.642]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:36:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:36:23] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 4)
- [12:36:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12:40:15] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 60,262 frames
- Bitrate: 19,899 Kbs
- [12:40:15] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:20:38] Video Encode complete
- [13:20:38] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:20:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:25:06] Processing: VID_00001 (2 of 4)
- [13:25:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [13:28:50] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 59,353 frames
- Bitrate: 21,235 Kbs
- [13:28:50] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:13:29] Video Encode complete
- [14:13:29] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:13:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:17:15] Processing: VID_00002 (3 of 4)
- [14:17:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [14:22:13] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [14:22:13] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:22:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:22:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00002.meta
- Can't open file: E:\WORKFILES\VID_00002.AVS.264
[14:22:17] - Failed to build structure, aborted
----------------------
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
what now? btw i re-installed bd-rebuilder

HWK
9th December 2013, 17:02
@wakko709 is this only disc generating this error or is it system wide.

jdobbs
9th December 2013, 17:15
@wakko709 is this only disc generating this error or is it system wide.He's reported it on at least a couple of discs (this one and TERMINATOR), but no one else is reporting it. That's what is confusing.

rysktkr
9th December 2013, 18:28
I uninstalled and reinstalled everything but I am still getting the BD Rebuilder pop-up. "System Error (with some hex number) A Microsoft Software Install error was encountered"

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

jdobbs
9th December 2013, 18:33
I uninstalled and reinstalled everything but I am still getting the BD Rebuilder pop-up. "System Error (with some hex number) A Microsoft Software Install error was encountered"

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: OkSorry, I have no idea what is causing that, but I don't see how it could possibly a bug in BD-RB. Capture the popup box and post what it says. I have doubts that it is a "BD Rebuilder pop-up" -- more likely it is coming from the O/S.

I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't related to antivirus software. They can cause some ridiculously hard-to-find errors.

rysktkr
9th December 2013, 18:48
Enclosed is picture of pop-up. Note I disabled my virus protection, I still see this pop-up.

jdobbs
9th December 2013, 18:55
Enclosed is picture of pop-up. Note I disabled my virus protection, I still see this pop-up.Yep. That is coming from you O/S. BD-RB does not create a popup with that error message. I have no idea how/why it is being generated -- but it has nothing to do with BD-RB itself. It's possible I guess (but not probable) that is may be coming from one of the apps called by BD-RB, but I can't imagine how or which one.

rysktkr
9th December 2013, 18:57
Any ideas on how to fix this? None of my other programs are seeing this issue.

jdobbs
9th December 2013, 19:03
Any ideas on how to fix this? None of my other programs are seeing this issue.Sorry but no idea. Something is wrong with your system or setup. Does it get far enough that you have a log to post? At least then we could see if it is one specific helper app that is kicking something for the system to handle.

HWK
9th December 2013, 19:24
@wakko709 is this only disc generating this error or is it system wide.

He's reported it on at least a couple of discs (this one and TERMINATOR), but no one else is reporting it. That's what is confusing.

Hmm, quite strange. Only way to find out what is happening is to monitor all system calls being made at kernel level. Especially for files, since they can't just delete themselves. I have Microsoft tool which can be used and then one of us or more experienced user can have look to see what is happening under the hood.

varekai
9th December 2013, 19:24
Any ideas on how to fix this? None of my other programs are seeing this issue.

Google this
---
System Error &H80004023 (-2147467229).
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http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1623244#post1623244

Maybe related?

Video Dude
9th December 2013, 19:27
Any ideas on how to fix this? None of my other programs are seeing this issue.

Do you have or did you ever have Microsoft Office installed?

A search of the Microsoft help site with that error message code shows that it is a Microsoft Office automation error. The solution is to delete specific registry keys.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/56edf118-891f-4ef1-b8ee-550a15bd1277/error-when-using-office-automation





http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1623244#post1623244

Maybe related?

Perhaps Microsoft Office installs a version of mscomctl.ocx that is not compatible with BD-RB and other programs?

jdobbs
9th December 2013, 20:39
Hmm, quite strange. Only way to find out what is happening is to monitor all system calls being made at kernel level. Especially for files, since they can't just delete themselves. I have Microsoft tool which can be used and then one of us or more experienced user can have look to see what is happening under the hood.I'll look at it more closely at some point in the near future, but right now I'm focused on getting 3D support incorporated, so I'm not spending much time on anything else.

The odds are that it is a bug in BD-RB that only gets hit under certain conditions.

rysktkr
9th December 2013, 23:06
Video Dude that was it! Yes, I recently installed MS Office 2013. BD_Rebuilder issue coincided with this install. Doing the below fixed the issue!

Try opening a command window in administrator mode -- and cut/past the command from REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT into the window (or type it in). I seem to remember a report once in which that was the only way that person could get it to register.

omegaman7
9th December 2013, 23:14
Mmmm, I've had weird issues like that before, between programs. I recall internet explorer 7(?) I think it was, caused some weird issue with Dvd Shrink (When I used it). Never rule out a possibility ;)

No... It was I.E. 8. I remember now.

jdobbs
9th December 2013, 23:37
Do you have or did you ever have Microsoft Office installed?

A search of the Microsoft help site with that error message code shows that it is a Microsoft Office automation error. The solution is to delete specific registry keys.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/56edf118-891f-4ef1-b8ee-550a15bd1277/error-when-using-office-automation

Perhaps Microsoft Office installs a version of mscomctl.ocx that is not compatible with BD-RB and other programs?Hah! I thought I'd heard that before somewhere -- but it had been so long I wasn't sure -- and when I did a forum search I couldn't find it.

wakko709
10th December 2013, 01:22
@wakko709 is this only disc generating this error or is it system wide.

no this error happens with another. 00000078_TERMINATOR

mparade
10th December 2013, 14:56
I have got several times (within the same disc's encoding process) an "audio and/or PGS size too large...." error message from BD-RB during encoding with 1-pass CRF.

It was quite strange because after clicking continue everything seemed to be OK, but after that due to some for me unknown reason the encoding process became much faster meaning it changed from around 0.63 fps encoding speed to around 6.5 fps and I got an extremely big sized image file. Mr. Dobbs, could you please advise
what did I wrong?

Some additional circumstances:

- LAVF was used for decoding;
- blanked a lot of m2ts file in which I was not interested
by using the edit mode;
- used FIXED_CRF hiddenopt;

Please help.

Thank you!

jdobbs
10th December 2013, 16:31
I have got several times (within the same disc's encoding process) an "audio and/or PGS size too large...." error message from BD-RB during encoding with 1-pass CRF.

It was quite strange because after clicking continue everything seemed to be OK, but after that due to some for me unknown reason the encoding process became much faster meaning it changed from around 0.63 fps encoding speed to around 6.5 fps and I got an extremely big sized image file. Mr. Dobbs, could you please advise
what did I wrong?

Some additional circumstances:

- LAVF was used for decoding;
- blanked a lot of m2ts file in which I was not interested
by using the edit mode;
- used FIXED_CRF hiddenopt;

Please help.

Thank you!That message means you have selected a set of options in which the size of the audio and pgs streams is so large there is no room for the video. You're probably keeping HD audio and outputting to a target that is too small to hold it. It isn't unusual, for example, for a single HD audio track to be larger than an entire BD-5. By telling it to continue you are agreeing to accept output that is oversized.

mparade
10th December 2013, 16:50
That message means you have selected a set of otions in which the size of the audio and pgs streams is so large there is no room for the video. You're probably keeping HD audio and outputting to a target that is too small to hold it. It isn't unusual, for example, for a single HD audio track to be larger than an entire BD-5. By telling it to continue you are agreeing to accept output that is oversized.

It is OK, but I thought if I used CRF encoding the output size control disappeared. So, I am using CRF this time because I have a fixed quality in mind instead of a fixed output size...

mparade
10th December 2013, 17:05
That message means you have selected a set of otions in which the size of the audio and pgs streams is so large there is no room for the video. You're probably keeping HD audio and outputting to a target that is too small to hold it. It isn't unusual, for example, for a single HD audio track to be larger than an entire BD-5. By telling it to continue you are agreeing to accept output that is oversized.

It is OK by now, thank you. I realized during a second encode that I should have considered the target size as well when using CRF encoding. I thought it is automatically ignored by BD-RB due to my choice for CRF encoding...

Giljorak
11th December 2013, 20:51
Ran into the following error while trying to convert the Internship into a movie only MKV, 2-pass 9000MB output size, 640Kbs DD5.1.

[12/11/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[00:37:59] Source: THE_INTERNSHIP_00851
- Input BD size: 29.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:05:01.410]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[00:38:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:38:04] Processing: VID_00600 (1 of 29)
- [00:38:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00600]
- [00:42:22] CreateAVS() 00000
[00:42:28] - Could not create AVS file

I tried the following but none helped:
- reboot, In a post from 3 years ago (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1421957#post1421957) you recommended a reboot for this error.
- different playlists
- re-rip the ISO with AnyDVDHD to a different source drive.
- change the working directory to another drive
- output an mkv with intact audio and intact video
- reinstall ffdshow, haali & avisynth from the first post of this thread.

Here is what worked for me:
- Using either of the two ISO rips convert to a BD9ish sized movie only.

[12/11/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[04:35:43] Source: THE_INTERNSHIP_00851
- Input BD size: 29.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:05:01.410]
- Target BD size: 8.79 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[04:35:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:35:46] Processing: VID_00600 (1 of 29)
- [04:35:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00600]
- [04:40:03] Reencoding video [VID_00600]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,865 frames
- Bitrate: 8,005 Kbs
.
.
.
- [06:04:19] Processing: VID_00642 (29 of 29)
- [06:04:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00642]
- [06:04:29] Reencoding video [VID_00642]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,954 frames
- Bitrate: 5,478 Kbs
- [06:04:29] Reencoding: VID_00642, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:05:17] Reencoding: VID_00642, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:06:03] Video Encode complete
[06:06:03]PHASE ONE complete
[06:06:03]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:06:03] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[06:08:50] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[06:08:50] JOB: THE_INTERNSHIP finished.

- then run this BD9 converted to iso with imgburn back through BD-RB to output an intact video and intact audio movie only mkv.

[12/11/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[06:47:33] Source: THE_INTERNSHIP_00000
- Input BD size: 7.98 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:05:01.439]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[06:47:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [06:47:36] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [06:47:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [06:49:01] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [06:49:01] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [06:49:01] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[06:49:01]PHASE ONE complete
[06:49:01]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:49:01] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[06:52:23] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[06:52:23] JOB: THE_INTERNSHIP finished.

Thanks for the awesome program.

jdobbs
11th December 2013, 21:32
It is OK by now, thank you. I realized during a second encode that I should have considered the target size as well when using CRF encoding. I thought it is automatically ignored by BD-RB due to my choice for CRF encoding...When you select CRF for BD output in BD-RB it works a little differently than an MKV or MP4 (ALTERNATE output). You can't ignore output size for BD, so BD-RB does a series of prediction passes to decide what CRF to use. So it kinda' works like two-pass -- only quicker.

jdobbs
11th December 2013, 21:35
@Giljorak

Can you post the INI file you used in the failed encode? I'd like to see if I can repeat it.

omegaman7
11th December 2013, 21:39
When you select CRF for BD output in BD-RB it works a little differently than an MKV or MP4 (ALTERNATE output). You can't ignore output size for BD, so BD-RB does a series of prediction passes to decide what CRF to use. So it kinda' works like two-pass -- only quicker.

Might I inquire, if this is your preferred method? For BD-25 backups.

Giljorak
11th December 2013, 21:59
As requested, I just reran a conversion to mkv with intact video & audio and got the same error.

----------------------
[12/11/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[13:50:48] Source: THE_INTERNSHIP_00851
- Input BD size: 29.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:05:01.410]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:50:48] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:50:48] Processing: VID_00600 (1 of 29)
- [13:50:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00600]
- [13:55:05] CreateAVS() 00000
[13:55:11] - Could not create AVS file


bdrebuilder.ini
[Options]
ENABLE_TEST=1
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=45000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
MKV_MUXSUPS=1
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=9000
AUTO_BURN=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=3
ALTCRF=20
ALTMETHOD=2
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
SHOW_ENCODER=1
VERSION=0.45.0.5
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
HC_PROFILE=BEST
ALT_TARGET=9000
DVD_SUB_COLOR=1
AUTO_BLANK=0
ENABLE_BLANKING=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
DGDECNV=0
RESIZE_1440=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
RESIZE_720=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\
WORKING_PATH=E:\BD_RB WORK\
SupTitlePath=D:\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\SupTitle.dll

the_internship.inf - I don't know if it is needed but I'll include it.
[Status]
LABEL=THE_INTERNSHIP
VERSION=v0.45.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=31279656960
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=31279656960
TARGET_SIZE=9437184000
REDUCTION=.30170356446262
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=3
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00600]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=10000000
PGS=110000000000000
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
[00602]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00603]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00605]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00606]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00608]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00609]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00611]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00612]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00614]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00615]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00617]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00618]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00620]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00621]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00623]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00624]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00626]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00627]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00629]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00630]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00632]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00633]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00635]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00636]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00638]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00639]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00641]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00642]
USE_ORIGINAL=1

Sharc
11th December 2013, 22:29
Might I inquire, if this is your preferred method?
For me this is the preferred method for my backups on BD5 or BD9. In most cases the disk is filled 92 .... 98%. The risk is that you my occasionally run into an oversize problem because of the prediction which is based on samples (snippets) rather than on the entire movie. "Occasional" means perhaps 1 out of 20 cases. If this happens I repeat the encode with a slightly higher fixed CRF which can be set as an option in the .ini.

mparade
11th December 2013, 22:45
When you select CRF for BD output in BD-RB it works a little differently than an MKV or MP4 (ALTERNATE output). You can't ignore output size for BD, so BD-RB does a series of prediction passes to decide what CRF to use. So it kinda' works like two-pass -- only quicker.

Thank you for the answer. Is "so BD-RB does a series of prediction passes to decide what CRF to use" true even if I used e.g. FIXED_CRF=16? The hiddenopt is telling "(output size control disappears)".

Sharc
11th December 2013, 23:01
Thank you for the answer. Is "so BD-RB does a series of prediction passes to decide what CRF to use" true even if I used e.g. FIXED_CRF=16? The hiddenopt is telling "(output size control disappears)".
No, in this case the encode will be 1-pass at CRF=16.

mparade
12th December 2013, 00:04
No, in this case the encode will be 1-pass at CRF=16.

That is why I do not really understand the "audio and/or PGS size too large...." error message while using the FIXED_CRF hiddenopt. If in case of FIXED_CRF, size control disappears why does still BD-RB cares about the size?Maybe the menu (which is not going to be reencoded due to a custom sized (even if using FIXED_CRF the user is forced to mark a target size) full backup setup>BD-9 can mess it up, I think....Anyway, thank you for the reply.

jdobbs
12th December 2013, 01:57
Might I inquire, if this is your preferred method? For BD-25 backups.No. I generally do two-pass backups.

That is why I do not really understand the "audio and/or PGS size too large...." error message while using the FIXED_CRF hiddenopt. If in case of FIXED_CRF, size control disappears why does still BD-RB cares about the size?Maybe the menu (which is not going to be reencoded due to a custom sized (even if using FIXED_CRF the user is forced to mark a target size) full backup setup>BD-9 can mess it up, I think....Anyway, thank you for the reply.Because the vast majority of people don't have a clue what CRF means -- and if I don't warn them it will oversize -- and they'll blame it on the software.

laserfan
12th December 2013, 20:06
I generally do two-pass backups.
How's that happen? I'm set to "Automatic Quality Settings", which I believe is the default, and most of my logs display

- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR

and only one that I can find ATM that says

- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass

I think you've always said you use defaults? Or maybe you backup to DVDs instead e.g. BD-25 assuming that would make a difference.

laserfan
12th December 2013, 23:03
One oddity: I typically do Full Menus with Blanking, and it seems that every single time I click to Backup, the program says WORK FOLDER NOT EMPTY - DELETE ALL FILES? or some such, and what I find odd about this is that I've always started with a clean slate i.e. empty Work folder. Then I review all streams, make my changes re: blanked or not, and then I get the above and in WORKFILES I typically find a bunch of .CHP files in there.

Is this correct behavior or am I doing something wrong? It's disconcerting to deal with this every time...

Ch3vr0n
12th December 2013, 23:19
previewing creates those files, that's why that "error" occurs

jdobbs
12th December 2013, 23:37
How's that happen? I'm set to "Automatic Quality Settings", which I believe is the default, and most of my logs display

- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR

and only one that I can find ATM that says

- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass

I think you've always said you use defaults? Or maybe you backup to DVDs instead e.g. BD-25 assuming that would make a difference.Yes, that is the default, and that's how I usually have mine set. But it is rare that I ever see a disc that isn't two-pass. It pretty much always is two-pass to BD-9. I guess it would be more common on movie-only backups than full backups. I also sometimes just set my system to "High Quality (Default)" when I'm running a job overnight and don't care about time.

But "Automatic" is the way to go 90+% of the time. While you can set it to one of the higher fixed settings, you probably won't see an improvement for the additional time involved, and in "Automatic" BD-RB will adjust up to one of those when it thinks it needs to.

laserfan
13th December 2013, 00:00
Thanks for your reply; I do always use BD-25 when doing Menu & Extras so that's no doubt the difference vs. your BD-9 where you get two-pass.

I can certainly vouch for your assertion that Auto is the way to go setting-wise. I'm always surprised by how fast it works, and I have never seen any degradation in video quality on-screen.

:)

Yes, that is the default, and that's how I usually have mine set. But it is rare that I ever see a disc that isn't two-pass. It pretty much always is two-pass to BD-9. I guess it would be more common on movie-only backups than full backups. I also sometimes just set my system to "High Quality (Default)" when I'm running a job overnight and don't care about time.

But "Automatic" is the way to go 90+% of the time. While you can set it to one of the higher fixed settings, you probably won't see an improvement for the additional time involved, and in "Automatic" BD-RB will adjust up to one of those when it thinks it needs to.

laserfan
13th December 2013, 18:03
One oddity: I typically do Full Menus with Blanking, and it seems that every single time I click to Backup, the program says WORK FOLDER NOT EMPTY - DELETE ALL FILES? or some such, and what I find odd about this is that I've always started with a clean slate i.e. empty Work folder. Then I review all streams, make my changes re: blanked or not, and then I get the above and in WORKFILES I typically find a bunch of .CHP files in there.

Is this correct behavior or am I doing something wrong? It's disconcerting to deal with this every time...
No ideas about this one?

jdobbs
13th December 2013, 18:21
No ideas about this one?Ch3vr0n answered that one. When you preview there is an AVS created in the WORKFILES folder. Since the folder isn't empty, it prompts before clearing it.

The .CHP files get created along with .AVS files. I'll look at it, but I have to be careful about removing things -- because you can stop/preview/resume at any time. You don't want to have to start over.

laserfan
14th December 2013, 00:01
Ch3vr0n answered that one. When you preview there is an AVS created in the WORKFILES folder. Since the folder isn't empty, it prompts before clearing it.

The .CHP files get created along with .AVS files. I'll look at it, but I have to be careful about removing things -- because you can stop/preview/resume at any time. You don't want to have to start over.
Yeah I'd forgotten about Preview creating the .AVS files cuz they do get deleted, just not the .CHP. Well it's not a big deal but I thought I'd ask.

Thanks for looking at it.

Audiophile1178
14th December 2013, 01:27
laserfan, another way of previewing the files without going through BDRebuilder is to go to the STREAM folder on the disc in windows explorer and double click on the m2ts file that corresponds to the VID file number in BDRebuilder and play it back in MPC-HC or MPC. This is how I always preview the VID files without having to directly do it in BDRebuilder. That way nothing gets created and you never have that message pop-up.

mparade
14th December 2013, 15:33
Just sent $110,00 USD (not Canadian one as previously made by gonca :)) for BD-RB software development implemented in the near past and hopefully in the near future. (Please consider it a Christmas present also :))

P.S. I wish for Mr. Dobbs and for all member of this small community of BD-RB happy holidays!

laserfan
14th December 2013, 16:12
laserfan, another way of previewing the files without going through BDRebuilder is to go to the STREAM folder on the disc in windows explorer and double click on the m2ts file that corresponds to the VID file number in BDRebuilder and play it back in MPC-HC or MPC.
At first I thought "more work!" but then I see what you're saying. I will try that thanks, might even be quicker huh.

Just sent $110,00 USD...
Wow, make us all feel bad! :cool:

Good work mparade & I hope others follow suit and not to be too intimidated by your generosity.

Donations are especially appropriate as IIRC BD-RB celebrates its fifth anniversary this month! Longest beta trial in history maybe (calling Guinness right now...).

:D

Too bad though we are still well away from creating 1000 pages in this thread. Oh well another reason to celebrate in 2014..

HWK
14th December 2013, 16:50
Just sent $110,00 USD (not Canadian one as previously made by gonca :)) for BD-RB software development implemented in the near past and hopefully in the near future. (Please consider it a Christmas present also :))

P.S. I wish for Mr. Dobbs and for all member of this small community of BD-RB happy holidays!

I sense big smile from jdobbs :D

gonca
14th December 2013, 16:58
Just sent $110,00 USD (not Canadian one as previously made by gonca :)) for BD-RB software development implemented in the near past and hopefully in the near future. (Please consider it a Christmas present also :))

P.S. I wish for Mr. Dobbs and for all member of this small community of BD-RB happy holidays!

That was $100.00 US:D
Did I start a trend? Either way, let's keep it going, It is the season.

HWK
14th December 2013, 17:11
Did I start a trend? Either way, let's keep it going, It is the season.

It may very well be, you have started trend and let's hope it continues. I think Roman deserve donation too, without his work on muxer BD-RB would have been in blue print.

jdobbs
14th December 2013, 17:11
Just sent $110,00 USD (not Canadian one as previously made by gonca :)) for BD-RB software development implemented in the near past and hopefully in the near future. (Please consider it a Christmas present also :))

P.S. I wish for Mr. Dobbs and for all member of this small community of BD-RB happy holidays!Wow! That will get me three more 3D discs! I'll be heading down to Best Buy today.

Your continued support is very much appreciated. I hope you and your family have a happy holiday season.

jdobbs
14th December 2013, 17:18
Donations are especially appropriate as IIRC BD-RB celebrates its fifth anniversary this month! Longest beta trial in history maybe (calling Guinness right now...).

:D

Too bad though we are still well away from creating 1000 pages in this thread. Oh well another reason to celebrate in 2014.. Yeah. It 's been in beta for an eternity. Every time I get it stable I decide to add some major change that makes it a beta again. The last big one was the IMPORT/Quick-Play with authored menus, and now 3D support. I want this to eventually become the single tool needed for any/all BD backup and authoring needs -- so I'm not sure when it will ever end.

gonca
14th December 2013, 17:18
It may very well be, you have started trend and let's hope it continues. I think Roman deserve donation too, without his work on muxer BD-RB most likely BD-RB would have been in blue print.

+1 Agreed

Just did. Good reminder

omegaman7
14th December 2013, 18:20
I'll be able to help you in February Jdobbs. Assuming uncle sam doesn't hurt me too bad LOL! Perhaps even in a week. I get 3 paychecks next week :D

jbromley
15th December 2013, 16:04
Hi folks, I was looking for some assistance with BD-Rebuilder...

I am attempting to shrink down some BDs that I have so I can keep them away from the kids. Most are about 30-40GB, and I want to upload them onto a central NAS, but am running out of space.

Anyhoo - I constantly get the following error message when the process has gone 50% (or thereabouts) through, ie when it has done the decoding.

CorrectMPSL error() 00009 2401.

I am using the following equipment to do this.

First the BRs are ripped straight to NAS, using AnyDVD and straight file copy, also including hidden files.

Next I have a virtual Windows 7 box, which has been installed using proper software, and has nothing else on apart from BD Rebuilder and required decoders. If I run INSPECT everything comes up ok.

I am using a second drive space of 80GB, which appears to be fine, for my Workfiles.

I've now tried about 10 different blu-rays, all to no avail...

Latest log file enclosed...

----------------------
[12/15/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[10:14:25] Source: HANNA
- Input BD size: 38.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:44:25.521]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[10:14:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:14:25] Processing: VID_50201 (1 of 11)
- [10:14:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50201]
- [10:39:43] Reencoding video [VID_50201]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 159,730 frames
- Bitrate: 19,256 Kbs
- [10:39:43] Reencoding: VID_50201, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:10:56] Video Encode complete
- [13:10:56] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:10:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:28:52] Processing: VID_50278 (2 of 11)
- [13:28:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50278]
- [13:29:03] Reencoding video [VID_50278]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,748 frames
- Bitrate: 5,358 Kbs
- [13:29:03] Reencoding: VID_50278, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:30:15] Video Encode complete
- [13:30:15] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:30:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:30:20] Processing: VID_50283 (3 of 11)
- [13:30:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50283]
- [13:30:33] Reencoding video [VID_50283]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,247 frames
- Bitrate: 6,130 Kbs
- [13:30:34] Reencoding: VID_50283, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:32:02] Video Encode complete
- [13:32:02] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:32:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:32:07] Processing: VID_50285 (4 of 11)
- [13:32:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50285]
- [13:32:27] Reencoding video [VID_50285]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,112 frames
- Bitrate: 13,367 Kbs
- [13:32:27] Reencoding: VID_50285, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:33:56] Video Encode complete
- [13:33:56] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:33:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:34:02] Processing: VID_50286 (5 of 11)
- [13:34:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50286]
- [13:34:44] Reencoding video [VID_50286]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,440 frames
- Bitrate: 13,397 Kbs
- [13:34:44] Reencoding: VID_50286, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:38:39] Video Encode complete
- [13:38:39] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:38:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:38:49] Processing: VID_50287 (6 of 11)
- [13:38:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50287]
- [13:41:50] Reencoding video [VID_50287]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 19,080 frames
- Bitrate: 13,321 Kbs
- [13:41:50] Reencoding: VID_50287, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:56:58] Video Encode complete
- [13:56:58] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:56:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:57:39] Processing: VID_50288 (7 of 11)
- [13:57:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50288]
- [13:59:25] Reencoding video [VID_50288]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,821 frames
- Bitrate: 13,321 Kbs
- [13:59:25] Reencoding: VID_50288, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:08:26] Video Encode complete
- [14:08:26] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:08:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:08:50] Processing: VID_50289 (8 of 11)
- [14:08:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50289]
- [14:10:04] Reencoding video [VID_50289]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,789 frames
- Bitrate: 13,319 Kbs
- [14:10:04] Reencoding: VID_50289, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:16:32] Video Encode complete
- [14:16:32] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:16:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:16:43] Processing: VID_50290 (9 of 11)
- [14:16:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50290]
- [14:17:03] Reencoding video [VID_50290]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,576 frames
- Bitrate: 13,333 Kbs
- [14:17:03] Reencoding: VID_50290, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:20:30] Video Encode complete
- [14:20:30] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:20:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:20:40] Processing: VID_50291 (10 of 11)
- [14:20:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50291]
- [14:21:00] Reencoding video [VID_50291]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,168 frames
- Bitrate: 13,317 Kbs
- [14:21:00] Reencoding: VID_50291, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:23:23] Video Encode complete
- [14:23:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:23:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:23:30] Processing: VID_50292 (11 of 11)
- [14:23:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50292]
- [14:23:46] Reencoding video [VID_50292]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,132 frames
- Bitrate: 13,287 Kbs
- [14:23:46] Reencoding: VID_50292, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:25:20] Video Encode complete
- [14:25:20] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:25:20] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:25:25]PHASE ONE complete
[14:25:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:25:25] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [14:25:28] CorrectMPLS() 00009 2401
[14:37:39] - Aborted per user request

gonca
15th December 2013, 16:17
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1513653
Read this page, same error

jdobbs
15th December 2013, 16:49
Hi folks, I was looking for some assistance with BD-Rebuilder...

I am attempting to shrink down some BDs that I have so I can keep them away from the kids. Most are about 30-40GB, and I want to upload them onto a central NAS, but am running out of space.

Anyhoo - I constantly get the following error message when the process has gone 50% (or thereabouts) through, ie when it has done the decoding.

CorrectMPSL error() 00009 2401.

I am using the following equipment to do this.

First the BRs are ripped straight to NAS, using AnyDVD and straight file copy, also including hidden files.

Next I have a virtual Windows 7 box, which has been installed using proper software, and has nothing else on apart from BD Rebuilder and required decoders. If I run INSPECT everything comes up ok.

I am using a second drive space of 80GB, which appears to be fine, for my Workfiles.

I've now tried about 10 different blu-rays, all to no avail...

Latest log file enclosed...

...
That error is an indicator of a subscript being out of range, the 2401 identifies the section of BD-RB where the error occurred. I looked at it, and it is a very small section of code. The only way I can see that error occurring is if the playlist has been modified somehow or has been deleted between the time the encodes were started and the rebuild began. I'm not sure how that would be possible -- but it might somehow be related to the availability of the NAS drive.

Also, 80GB is a very small space to use as your workdrive. It is likely that at some point you are going to hit an error due to no disc space being available.

jbromley
15th December 2013, 17:10
Okay, hmmm, interesting thoughts. I've looked at that error link before, but there doesn't seem to be a conclusion to it.

I'm only using 80GB, as I have limited data storage on the virtual device. I will just try something else on the VM and make it a thick client.

As to whether the original files are being changed, I find that unlikely, as they're not being used by anything else, and what other program would be changing the files? Admittedly it does take 5+ hours (usually 10) to do the first 1/2 of decoding.

Otherwise, any ideas?

I'm just trying another rip direct from the BD player, but this isn't really practical for a final solution, as the BD drive is on a laptop that is constantly moving around, and can't be kept on all the time.

jdobbs
15th December 2013, 17:27
Okay, hmmm, interesting thoughts. I've looked at that error link before, but there doesn't seem to be a conclusion to it.

I'm only using 80GB, as I have limited data storage on the virtual device. I will just try something else on the VM and make it a thick client.

As to whether the original files are being changed, I find that unlikely, as they're not being used by anything else, and what other program would be changing the files? Admittedly it does take 5+ hours (usually 10) to do the first 1/2 of decoding.

Otherwise, any ideas?

I'm just trying another rip direct from the BD player, but this isn't really practical for a final solution, as the BD drive is on a laptop that is constantly moving around, and can't be kept on all the time. I looked at the link, but I didn't see the connection. As for the error -- while there could be any of many possible causes, I don't see how it could be caused by a bug in BD-RB. It is simply trying to access an array that was created from the first scan of an MPLS file using an index it pulled from that same file later. I could be missing something (it wouldn't be the first time). But there are only about 25 lines of code in section 2401.

Audiophile1178
15th December 2013, 18:52
jbromley, I'm not sure if this is related to what you're trying to do but one time I tried to use the source and working path for BDRebuilder through the network as I was low on space on my local rig at that time and BDRebuilder wouldn't work properly. I think it was due to not being able to access the files properly as I was doing the encoding on my main rig but using my network drives as the space for the work that were on another pc in the network What I didn't think of at the time and this idea MAY work for you. If you want to use your network drives to do the work but use another pc for encoding you might want to try mapping the remote drives on your encoding rig to have BDRebuilder think that those drives are local as windows explorer will show that drive as a local drive with a drive letter. You would then use those mapped drives as your source and encoding folders.

It's just an idea that may or may not help you accomplish what you're trying to do. :)

gonca
15th December 2013, 21:59
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1513653
Read this page, same error

dfsooner had the same error

jbromley
16th December 2013, 00:04
jbromley, I'm not sure if this is related to what you're trying to do but one time I tried to use the source and working path for BDRebuilder through the network as I was low on space on my local rig at that time and BDRebuilder wouldn't work properly. I think it was due to not being able to access the files properly as I was doing the encoding on my main rig but using my network drives as the space for the work that were on another pc in the network What I didn't think of at the time and this idea MAY work for you. If you want to use your network drives to do the work but use another pc for encoding you might want to try mapping the remote drives on your encoding rig to have BDRebuilder think that those drives are local as windows explorer will show that drive as a local drive with a drive letter. You would then use those mapped drives as your source and encoding folders.

It's just an idea that may or may not help you accomplish what you're trying to do. :)

Thanks, I may well try that. I'm just moving my virtual systems to a much bigger server, so if it works that will solve that, also for the past 7 hours I've been trying to do the whole thing from a local machine, and also with the bd files copied to a local drive.

jdobbs
16th December 2013, 00:19
dfsooner had the same errorOh, so the link pointed to the wrong post, you are referencing the post that was 4 responses below that one. I see.

In his case, this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1514782#post1514782) was his response on the next page.

gonca
16th December 2013, 00:32
Oh, so the link pointed to the wrong post, you are referencing the post that was 4 responses below that one. I see.

In his case, this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1514782#post1514782) was his response on the next page.
I was linking to the page
Just saw how to link to an actual post :o

AmigaFuture
16th December 2013, 08:37
Wow, make us all feel bad! :cool:

Donations are especially appropriate as IIRC BD-RB celebrates its fifth anniversary this month! Longest beta trial in history maybe (calling Guinness right now...).


Hmm...Nope. It doesn't ...make...me feel bad. I am supposed to be included in that "All" statement? Wink! Even if I hadn't donated in that $ range?? :D

It's all part his Master Plan for major fame...longest Beta in history. We're on to you.....!!!

AmigaFuture
16th December 2013, 08:53
Hi folks, I was looking for some assistance with BD-Rebuilder...

I am attempting to shrink down some BDs that I have so I can keep them away from the kids. Most are about 30-40GB, and I want to upload them onto a central NAS, but am running out of space.

Anyhoo - I constantly get the following error message when the process has gone 50% (or thereabouts) through, ie when it has done the decoding.

CorrectMPSL error() 00009 2401.

I am using the following equipment to do this.

First the BRs are ripped straight to NAS, using AnyDVD and straight file copy, also including hidden files.

Next I have a virtual Windows 7 box, which has been installed using proper software, and has nothing else on apart from BD Rebuilder and required decoders. If I run INSPECT everything comes up ok.

I am using a second drive space of 80GB, which appears to be fine, for my Workfiles.

I've now tried about 10 different blu-rays, all to no avail...

Latest log file enclosed...

----------------------
[12/15/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[10:14:25] Source: HANNA
- Input BD size: 38.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:44:25.521]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[10:14:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:14:25] Processing: VID_50201 (1 of 11)
- [10:14:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50201]
- [10:39:43] Reencoding video [VID_50201]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 159,730 frames
- Bitrate: 19,256 Kbs
- [10:39:43] Reencoding: VID_50201, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:10:56] Video Encode complete
- [13:10:56] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:10:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:28:52] Processing: VID_50278 (2 of 11)
- [13:28:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50278]
- [13:29:03] Reencoding video [VID_50278]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,748 frames
- Bitrate: 5,358 Kbs
- [13:29:03] Reencoding: VID_50278, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:30:15] Video Encode complete
- [13:30:15] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:30:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:30:20] Processing: VID_50283 (3 of 11)
- [13:30:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50283]
- [13:30:33] Reencoding video [VID_50283]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,247 frames
- Bitrate: 6,130 Kbs
- [13:30:34] Reencoding: VID_50283, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:32:02] Video Encode complete
- [13:32:02] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:32:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:32:07] Processing: VID_50285 (4 of 11)
- [13:32:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50285]
- [13:32:27] Reencoding video [VID_50285]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,112 frames
- Bitrate: 13,367 Kbs
- [13:32:27] Reencoding: VID_50285, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:33:56] Video Encode complete
- [13:33:56] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:33:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:34:02] Processing: VID_50286 (5 of 11)
- [13:34:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50286]
- [13:34:44] Reencoding video [VID_50286]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,440 frames
- Bitrate: 13,397 Kbs
- [13:34:44] Reencoding: VID_50286, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:38:39] Video Encode complete
- [13:38:39] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:38:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:38:49] Processing: VID_50287 (6 of 11)
- [13:38:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50287]
- [13:41:50] Reencoding video [VID_50287]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 19,080 frames
- Bitrate: 13,321 Kbs
- [13:41:50] Reencoding: VID_50287, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:56:58] Video Encode complete
- [13:56:58] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:56:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:57:39] Processing: VID_50288 (7 of 11)
- [13:57:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50288]
- [13:59:25] Reencoding video [VID_50288]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,821 frames
- Bitrate: 13,321 Kbs
- [13:59:25] Reencoding: VID_50288, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:08:26] Video Encode complete
- [14:08:26] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:08:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:08:50] Processing: VID_50289 (8 of 11)
- [14:08:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50289]
- [14:10:04] Reencoding video [VID_50289]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,789 frames
- Bitrate: 13,319 Kbs
- [14:10:04] Reencoding: VID_50289, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:16:32] Video Encode complete
- [14:16:32] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:16:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:16:43] Processing: VID_50290 (9 of 11)
- [14:16:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50290]
- [14:17:03] Reencoding video [VID_50290]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,576 frames
- Bitrate: 13,333 Kbs
- [14:17:03] Reencoding: VID_50290, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:20:30] Video Encode complete
- [14:20:30] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:20:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:20:40] Processing: VID_50291 (10 of 11)
- [14:20:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50291]
- [14:21:00] Reencoding video [VID_50291]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,168 frames
- Bitrate: 13,317 Kbs
- [14:21:00] Reencoding: VID_50291, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:23:23] Video Encode complete
- [14:23:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:23:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:23:30] Processing: VID_50292 (11 of 11)
- [14:23:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50292]
- [14:23:46] Reencoding video [VID_50292]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,132 frames
- Bitrate: 13,287 Kbs
- [14:23:46] Reencoding: VID_50292, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:25:20] Video Encode complete
- [14:25:20] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:25:20] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:25:25]PHASE ONE complete
[14:25:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:25:25] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [14:25:28] CorrectMPLS() 00009 2401
[14:37:39] - Aborted per user request


Are you using a Mac using VMWare Fusion or Parallels? If so, which Mac OS X version? I may be able to help as I've come across that before.

TobiMan
17th December 2013, 19:07
Hi,

when trying to import a .ts file into bd-rebuilder the log shows the following error:

[18:21:31] Importing TS: NUHR_2013_-_DER_JAHRESRÜCKBLICK
- Preparing TS for processing...
[18:24:34]ERROR: Gathering source file information. Aborted.
[18:24:35]ERROR: Gathering source file information. Aborted.
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
[18:24:35]ERROR: Gathering source file information. Aborted.

The file was recorded from TV and has the following specs:

h264, 50 FPS progressive, 1280x720
AC3 2.0, 48 KHz, 448 kBit

Any idea why this happens and how to get it working (inspect.exe shows no errror)?

Thanks,

Tobi

jdobbs
17th December 2013, 19:12
Hi,

when trying to import a .ts file into bd-rebuilder the log shows the following error:

[18:21:31] Importing TS: NUHR_2013_-_DER_JAHRESRÜCKBLICK
- Preparing TS for processing...
[18:24:34]ERROR: Gathering source file information. Aborted.
[18:24:35]ERROR: Gathering source file information. Aborted.
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
[18:24:35]ERROR: Gathering source file information. Aborted.

The file was recorded from TV and has the following specs:

h264, 50 FPS progressive, 1280x720
AC3 2.0, 48 KHz, 448 kBit

Any idea why this happens and how to get it working (inspect.exe shows no errror)?

Thanks,

TobiThat error occurs when BD-RB attempts to run MEDIAINFO against your source and the application returns an error. You might try running it manually and see what happens (MEDIAINFO.EXE can be found in the BD-RB TOOLS folder).

TobiMan
17th December 2013, 19:47
That error occurs when BD-RB attempts to run MEDIAINFO against your source and the application returns an error. You might try running it manually and see what happens (MEDIAINFO.EXE can be found in the BD-RB TOOLS folder).

Thanks for pointing me out. Mediainfo showed more detailed information but no error. However, somehow I got the idea to shorten the filename and everything is fine now.

So my guess is either long filenames and/or spaces in filenames caused the issue. I will try later to find out as I am encoding right now ;-).

Thanks again

Tobi

nounours18200
17th December 2013, 20:36
As said in the very firstpost, the first time BD Rebuilder is lauched, there is a message to change the Codec in the Windows Ragistry.

Is there any risk that this change disturb the other programs installed in the PC ?

Tks

TobiMan
17th December 2013, 21:03
So my guess is either long filenames and/or spaces in filenames caused the issue.

OK, I guessed wrong. The issue was because of German Umlauts (i. e. ä ö ü). Now that I know it is no problem to avoid this.

Thanks again!

Tobi

jdobbs
17th December 2013, 22:45
As said in the very firstpost, the first time BD Rebuilder is lauched, there is a message to change the Codec in the Windows Ragistry.

Is there any risk that this change disturb the other programs installed in the PC ?

TksNo, it shouldn't. It changes the default Directshow CODECs for VC-1, MPEG-2, and AVC to those found in FFDSHOW. The Directshow interface has been standardized, and if other programs access Directshow, these CODECs will work with them.

MrT.
18th December 2013, 02:34
Hi
thank you for your works on bdrb
I was wondering if there were other reasons for the video to freeze, but audio/subtitles to continue? With the common reason being a bad rip, some sort of video glitch.

At first this common reason was sound, for me. I tried doing planes, trains and automobiles and I saw a , maybe a .3-5 seconds freeze before scene change, and the re encode got stuck on that the rest of way. But then it has happened to me again with The right stuff. And with that latest one the Original video looks fine. I did a newer title recently and no issues.

I was just wondering if there was something I could do to look into it.
I recently did a fresh install, everything updated and configured.

A log would not shed light on this I believe? I mean..bd-rb finished the shrink to bd25 as per normal. No errors.
Maybe this is just a coincidence? maybe viewing the original video for glitches does not tell all and theres something wrong with the rip.
thank you for any insight.

jdobbs
18th December 2013, 02:48
Hi
thank you for your works on bdrb
I was wondering if there were other reasons for the video to freeze, but audio/subtitles to continue? With the common reason being a bad rip, some sort of video glitch.

At first this common reason was sound, for me. I tried doing planes, trains and automobiles and I saw a , maybe a .3-5 seconds freeze before scene change, and the re encode got stuck on that the rest of way. But then it has happened to me again with The right stuff. And with that latest one the Original video looks fine. I did a newer title recently and no issues.

I was just wondering if there was something I could do to look into it.
I recently did a fresh install, everything updated and configured.

A log would not shed light on this I believe? I mean..bd-rb finished the shrink to bd25 as per normal. No errors.
Maybe this is just a coincidence? maybe viewing the original video for glitches does not tell all and theres something wrong with the rip.
thank you for any insight.The only idea I have is that somehow the video did not complete encoding correctly. That would typically be because of a corrupt source.

SFiedor
18th December 2013, 04:25
First I want to say what a wonderful job you are doing on BD-Rebuilder!

I'm wondering if someone can help me. I just tried to backup the Season 1 BDs for the original Star Trek TV Series. On Season 1 Disk 2, I am trying to backup track 00010 using the "Other movie-only playlist" under the mode tab. It completes Phase 1 and when Phase 2 starts it comes back with the following error:
18:43:48]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:43:48] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: D:\MULTIMEDIA FILES\TEMP\E5\WORKFILES\00075.track_4352.DTS
[18:43:51] - Failed to REBUILD

A similar error is also happening with track 00002 of the Season 1 Disc 3 Star Trek TV series. (Season 1 Disk 1 episodes backed up just fine).

Now if I take the two (Disk 2 and 3) BD rips and do a full backup of them - BD-Rebuilder backs up the rips successfully. I can also drag the 00010.mpls file or Disk 2 and the 00002.mpls file of disk 3 from their BD Playlist Rip folder to MPC and it plays fine.

I'm ripping the BDs to the hard drive using the latest version of AnyDVD HD. I'm just using BD-Rebuilder to strip away unwanted languages, subtitles, warning messages and previews, extras etc.

I'm not doing any compression on my BD-Rebuilder backups but I am backing up using the movie-only backup option to the hard drive. I've tried these backups on two different Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate machines with the same two errors when using BD-Rebuilder V0.45.05.

I've backed up several hundred BD movies using these settings with virtually no problems. But this is the first time that I tried backing-up TV BDs and by episode. I figured that 2 errors on 3 BDs seemed worth mentioning.

Any thoughts? :confused:

Attached is the log and BD-Rebuilder config files as well.

jdobbs
18th December 2013, 13:55
First I want to say what a wonderful job you are doing on BD-Rebuilder!

I'm wondering if someone can help me. I just tried to backup the Season 1 BDs for the original Star Trek TV Series. On Season 1 Disk 2, I am trying to backup track 00010 using the "Other movie-only playlist" under the mode tab. It completes Phase 1 and when Phase 2 starts it comes back with the following error:
18:43:48]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:43:48] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: D:\MULTIMEDIA FILES\TEMP\E5\WORKFILES\00075.track_4352.DTS
[18:43:51] - Failed to REBUILD

A similar error is also happening with track 00002 of the Season 1 Disc 3 Star Trek TV series. (Season 1 Disk 1 episodes backed up just fine).

Now if I take the two (Disk 2 and 3) BD rips and do a full backup of them - BD-Rebuilder backs up the rips successfully. I can also drag the 00010.mpls file or Disk 2 and the 00002.mpls file of disk 3 from their BD Playlist Rip folder to MPC and it plays fine.

I'm ripping the BDs to the hard drive using the latest version of AnyDVD HD. I'm just using BD-Rebuilder to strip away unwanted languages, subtitles, warning messages and previews, extras etc.

I'm not doing any compression on my BD-Rebuilder backups but I am backing up using the movie-only backup option to the hard drive. I've tried these backups on two different Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate machines with the same two errors when using BD-Rebuilder V0.45.05.

I've backed up several hundred BD movies using these settings with virtually no problems. But this is the first time that I tried backing-up TV BDs and by episode. I figured that 2 errors on 3 BDs seemed worth mentioning.

Any thoughts? :confused:

Attached is the log and BD-Rebuilder config files as well.The name of the file indicates that it is being kept intact -- and is the result of a simple extraction. But somehow at a point somewhere between extraction and rebuild the file has gone missing.

Why not just use the IMPORT function?

SFiedor
18th December 2013, 15:34
Yes the import function worked. Thank you for your help, jdobbs!

nounours18200
18th December 2013, 20:14
No, it shouldn't. It changes the default Directshow CODECs for VC-1, MPEG-2, and AVC to those found in FFDSHOW. The Directshow interface has been standardized, and if other programs access Directshow, these CODECs will work with them.

Thanks !

anavarza
19th December 2013, 12:55
How do I get from the menu screen bd25... png, jpeg...

Ch3vr0n
19th December 2013, 16:47
why'd u want that. BDRB is to shrink discs, not to grab disc items. Use windows explorer and explore the BDMV folder of the disc. If ur lucky the artwork will not be hidden inside a java runtime

nounours18200
19th December 2013, 20:44
Hi,

When the original Bluray disk has been shrink onto the hard drive by using BD-rebuilder, what software do you use to burn it on a recordable Bluray disk ?

Tks

gonca
19th December 2013, 20:53
ImgBurn for burning to disc

Ch3vr0n
19th December 2013, 20:59
and if you install IMGBurn, BDRB will see that it is installed and offer you 2 new options in output settings. 1) burn output to ISO & 2) Burn directly to disc. Personally i always pick option 1. That way you can simply mount the iso in a virtual drive like Slysoft's "Virtual Clone Drive" and test to see if the rebuilt disc works before you burn it to a blank to avoid a "coaster".

omegaman7
19th December 2013, 21:44
I used to use Nero burning Rom religiously(For DVD's anyhow). Then I discovered Imgburn/Dvd Decryptor, and haven't looked back :D

SFiedor
20th December 2013, 00:52
Yes the import function worked. Thank you for your help, jdobbs!

The name of the file indicates that it is being kept intact -- and is the result of a simple extraction. But somehow at a point somewhere between extraction and rebuild the file has gone missing.

Why not just use the IMPORT function?

jdobbs - the plot thickens. As mentioned above, I tried the IMPORT function and it successfully completed backing up the bad episodes. BUT when I went to play them - I found something interesting. For example: the Star Trek Episode called ARENA had duplicate scenes within the Episode and the total playtime was 59:01 for the IMPORTED file versus the 50:33 actual playtime found listed on IMDB. I noticed that all the imported files had playtimes much greater than actual IMDB times and the imported files also replayed different scenes multiple times. I tried using the "OTHER MOVIE-ONLY PLAYLIST" option again on 2 additional BD rips and had the "Can't open file " problem occur for one episode out of 8 total.

When I back-up by using the episode play lists - the back-up episode playtime is correct with no duplicated scenes.

Any thoughts or other ideas?

proxpilot
20th December 2013, 05:46
anyone else having problems with out of order scenes? Im doing movie only to DVD5 conversion, i had the problem with Now You See Me. Most movies i add into BD rebuilder show up as one single file. but when i add Now You see Me it shows multiple files, Disneys Planes does this too but i haven been able to watch it yet to see if it is also out of order.

HWK
20th December 2013, 05:54
anyone else having problems with out of order scenes? Im doing movie only to DVD5 conversion, i had the problem with Now You See Me. Most movies i add into BD rebuilder show up as one single file. but when i add Now You see Me it shows multiple files, Disneys Planes does this too but i haven been able to watch it yet to see if it is also out of order.

Out of order usually happens when disc protection is not removed correctly or selecting wrong mpls file. Provide more info on what was used to rip and setting.

proxpilot
20th December 2013, 05:58
Out of order usually happens when disc protection is not removed correctly or selecting wrong mpls file. Provide more info on what was used to rip and setting.
i use AnydvdHD to rip. with what i assume are default settings. then i just put the entire file into BD rebuilder

RobertM
20th December 2013, 12:14
i use AnydvdHD to rip. with what i assume are default settings. then i just put the entire file into BD rebuilder

But sometimes there are dozens of different playlists with only one containing the correct order of individual pieces. This is done intentionally by the studios in an effort to combat piracy. BD-RB does not know which playlist is the correct one; it guesses, but it sometimes guesses wrongly.

omegaman7
20th December 2013, 12:51
But sometimes there are dozens of different playlists with only one containing the correct order of individual pieces. This is done intentionally by the studios in an effort to combat piracy. BD-RB does not know which playlist is the correct one; it guesses, but it sometimes guesses wrongly.

Slysoft developers have said faulty playback, is due to a bug in anydvd HD. I find that laughable, since their software is one of the most sophisticated I've used ;) I don't call it a bug. I call it just how you have. An attempt by the industry, to combat piracy. "Source Code", is one of the earliest I remember having the problem. And then the twilight movies. But apparently, they have stated that once Anydvd HD has been updated, problem solved.

SFiedor
20th December 2013, 15:51
Out of order usually happens when disc protection is not removed correctly or selecting wrong mpls file. Provide more info on what was used to rip and setting.

I agree, HWK and have seen that too. In my case, there is MPLS CHAPTER and ANGLE 2 file for each Star Trek Episode on a BD. When I drop the CHAPTER MPLS file directly into MPC player, MPC always plays the Episode MPLS correctly and has the exact playtime reported by IMDb, AND has the chapter selection tabs enabled on the MPC play progress bar.
When the Episodes are backed up using the BD Rebuilder's OTHER MOVIE-ONLY PLAYLIST mode, they work correctly almost all the time. On average 1 in 7 episodes fail to backup. For the ones that fail, BD Rebuilder reports the same missing file and doesn't start PHASE 2 of the backup. It also seems to be the last episode on a BD that fails.
When I took jdobbs' suggestion to use the IMPORT option, all episodes were backed up but incorrectly across multiple BDs. They had duplicate scenes and the playtimes were minutes longer than the correct versions. I had one Episode that was 128 minutes long after backing up when it should have been around 50 minutes. This leads me to think that there is something going on with BD Rebuilder.
BTW - I also used AnyDVD HD (most current version) to rip, and have tried the backups on two different PCs with exactly the same results. I also save the rips and the backups directly to hard drive. I never use the burn backup option. All BD Rebuilder backups are configured for no video encoding and to keep the original audio tracks intact.
Also, I've never have gotten the Chapter select to work on any of my BD Backups. The Chapters are there, however, after AnyDVD HD rips.

proxpilot
20th December 2013, 15:56
so basically there is no way to fix it until Anydvd fixes it?

Capsbackup
20th December 2013, 16:08
so basically there is no way to fix it until Anydvd fixes it?

Why not post the log from BD-RB? :confused:
BD-RB is great, but it does require some user intervention to achieve certain results. The easiest with the least user effort is to do a full backup. You need only choose the audio and subtitles that way.
Movie only requires knowledge of the correct playlist to choose. This is not BD-RB's fault if the incorrect playlist is selected by BD-RB! This is where the user needs to know which one is correct, which does require more effort to find and choose correctly! :rolleyes:

You could check this AnyDVD post regarding "Now You See Me"
https://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?57828-Now-You-See-Me-US-Bluray

SFiedor
20th December 2013, 16:29
so basically there is no way to fix it until Anydvd fixes it?

I'm thinking that it isn't AnyDVD's problem to fix... All of my AnyDVD HD MPLS files work correctly. I can understand having multiple MPLS files to confuse products like BD Rebuilder. I just find the right MPLS file and use it. I don't view this as a big deal. :-)
What I'm seeing, in this particular instance, is that the correct AnyDVD HD MPLS file works when dragged directly into MPC BD player and the backed up file created from the same MPLS file does not play correctly after being processed by BD Rebuilder.
Don't get me wrong. BD Rebuilder is a fantastic product and works as advertised 99% of all times. But I think that there may be some kinks that still need to be worked through.

jdobbs
20th December 2013, 16:54
I'm thinking that it isn't AnyDVD's problem to fix... All of my AnyDVD HD MPLS files work correctly. I can understand having multiple MPLS files to confuse products like BD Rebuilder. I just find the right MPLS file and use it. I don't view this as a big deal. :-)
What I'm seeing, in this particular instance, is that the correct AnyDVD HD MPLS file works when dragged directly into MPC BD player and the backed up file created from the same MPLS file does not play correctly after being processed by BD Rebuilder.
Don't get me wrong. BD Rebuilder is a fantastic product and works as advertised 99% of all times. But I think that there may be some kinks that still need to be worked through.It's a real stretch, though, to think that BD-RB could "juggle" the order of the playlist. It would have to try to do that...

Are you actually using an original, unaltered, unpreprocessed source?

omegaman7
20th December 2013, 21:23
It's a real stretch, though, to think that BD-RB could "juggle" the order of the playlist. It would have to try to do that...

Are you actually using an original, unaltered, unpreprocessed source?

Ok... I have to chime in here. I have Star Trek TOS backups waiting for me to process them. I'll have to give them a run soon ;) I haven't done them yet, for other reasons. Namely, a great deal of content, even for BD-25. I was unimpressed with the last run. So, I put it on the back burner. I think it's time to test it again.

deadfrog
20th December 2013, 23:25
I am not sure if this is a bug or my ignorance showing. I am using import video files type MKV that have English and Japanese languages. It also has English and Japanese subtitles. When I import the files I import both languages and also select subtitles for both. When I get the finished disk there are no subtitles I can select. Is there some trick I can use to include them? On a few that are subbed only there are no subtitles and I don't speak Japanese. Using VLC I can select both language tracks and both subtitle tracks. Is there a workaround for this? As I was testing with cyberdvd13 as I know what you think of software players I burned a disk. When tried in a Sony and a Panasonic player all i got was the Star Screen background no menu items at all. In dvd13 all menus items showed up, there are 26 and It also chained from one to the next correctly.

laserfan
20th December 2013, 23:42
...we don't want to be leeches so c'mon everybody: December 24 happens to be the "official" 5th anniversary of BD-RB Beta. Let's all show jdobbs some appreciation by making a donation so he can put more BDs under the tree this Christmas (or pay his electric bill as the case may be)!

:D

omegaman7
21st December 2013, 00:09
@SFiedor, would you like me to try episode, "Arena" first? If so or not, what settings?

@laserfan, I'd send you a PM, but you've refused to receive them. I did send a Donation. Merry christmas to everyone.

gonca
21st December 2013, 01:10
As omegaman7 said... Merry Christmas to everyone
To jdobbs ... $50 on the way to help with expenses
To mparade... That's US, like last time, not CAN.

HWK
21st December 2013, 02:06
...we don't want to be leeches so c'mon everybody: December 24 happens to be the "official" 5th anniversary of BD-RB Beta. Let's all show jdobbs some appreciation by making a donation so he can put more BDs under the tree this Christmas (or pay his electric bill as the case may be)!

:D

I have done already, Jdobbs should look under the his tree. I sneak into his house and put few dollars under Christmas tree, but it was few days ago :D

jdobbs
21st December 2013, 03:00
I have done already, Jdobbs should look under the his tree. I sneak into his house and put few dollars under Christmas tree, but it was few days ago :DSo that was you crawling around the living room? Thanks!

@gonca and laserfan

Your support is truly appreciated.

@all
3D support is coming. I've run into a couple of glitches, so it isn't there as fast as I wanted, but it shouldn't be too terribly long.

HWK
21st December 2013, 03:19
So that was you crawling around the living room? Thanks!


Damn, Jdobbs found out. Next time I am gone be ghost so he will not find out :)

nounours18200
21st December 2013, 11:26
I have used BD_rebuilder to shrink a Bluray "Les Tontons Flingueurs", that is a French film.

The result is absolutely perfect with the the images, but I get NO sound at all.

What could be wrong ?

Thanks

Ch3vr0n
21st December 2013, 12:42
well what are your language settings? Did ya allow for french to be kept? That's the only thing that could be wrong, your settings. The BD-Rebuilder settings ask you with languages you want to KEEP, not which ones you wish to REMOVE.

nounours18200
21st December 2013, 13:09
well what are your language settings? Did ya allow for french to be kept? That's the only thing that could be wrong, your settings.

The film has ONLY one language : see the attached screen capture herebelow.

http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/12/21/mini_13122101125065565.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=13122101125065565.jpg)

Where can I indicate to BD_rebuilder to keep the French audio ??

EDIT : OK I have found the settings menu : I start another rip to check if the French audio is present... Sorry for my mistake...

Tks

Ch3vr0n
21st December 2013, 13:16
normally according to that pic the audio should be kept. There's no red X on the left of the stream. How are you playing the output

nounours18200
21st December 2013, 14:22
normally according to that pic the audio should be kept. There's no red X on the left of the stream. How are you playing the output

The output has no particular parameter : what do you mean ?

Strange: I have seen in the settings window that only the English language was supposed to be kept : so I have changed this to keep the French audio, and I have started a new BD_rebuilder process, which is currently in progress.
As soon as it is finished, I post a reply to tell you if the audio is there .

Tks

laserfan
21st December 2013, 14:47
I did send a Donation. Merry christmas to everyone.

As omegaman7 said... Merry Christmas to everyone
To jdobbs ... $50 on the way to help with expenses
To mparade... That's US, like last time, not CAN.
Wow that's the spirit. Good going guys.

With still 4 or 5 shopping days left! :D

Ch3vr0n
21st December 2013, 15:24
The output has no particular parameter : what do you mean ?

I didn't say anything about a parameter. Normally when an audio / video stream will be removed that icon on the left of the stream changes from that wmp icon to a red x indicating removal


Strange: I have seen in the settings window that only the English language was supposed to be kept

That would explain why the audio was removed. BDRB was told to only keep the english language audio on a process, but since the audio was french and is labelled as such BDRB removed it. Your next rebuild should turn out just fine

nounours18200
21st December 2013, 15:44
Well, problem : the new process has finished, and I still have NO audio.

EDIT: except on the Bonus tracks ! This is very strange ?! could the bonus tracks be seen by BD_rebuilder a having another language than the film itself ?? It is an old film (black and white, 4/3rd, released in 1963...), and in the parameters there is an option "French, old 842-ca 1400 (fro)" that is not selected, and another "French, middle, 1400-1600 (frm)" that is not selected. Could the pb come from this ?

Here are the languages settings:

http://nsa34.casimages.com/img/2013/12/21/mini_131221034904427861.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=131221034904427861.jpg)

and here is a view of the BD messages during the process:

http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/12/21/mini_131221035038625847.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=131221035038625847.jpg)

I hoped that it would have been OK with these parameters, but audio is still missing on the film : any idea ??

EDIT: I have launched a new BD encoding after having selected ALL the listed "French languages" in the settings: no way, there is still no audio on the film.

if it can help, here is a capture of the MEDIAINFO report on one of the streams:

http://nsa34.casimages.com/img/2013/12/21/mini_131221060058640189.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=131221060058640189.jpg)


Tks

gonca
21st December 2013, 18:28
I believe mediainfo is shpwing a french audio track

255 Kbps 48.0 Khz 24 bit 2 channel DTS french

brunchto
21st December 2013, 18:37
I've just tested "Les tontons flingueurs"
BR iso to film-only BR iso.
no sound problem
my log:

----------------------
[12/21/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[17:36:55] Source: BD_LESTONTONSJAVA_00000
- Input BD size: 17,45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:50:52.687]
- Target BD size: 46,26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25+), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:36:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:36:55] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:36:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:53:28] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [17:53:28] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [17:53:28] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (fra): Keeping original audio
[17:53:28]PHASE ONE complete
[17:53:28]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:59:33] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:08:53] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:08:53] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- BD_LESTONTONSJAVA folder removed.
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:22:36] JOB: BD_LESTONTONSJAVA finished.

Blurayhd
21st December 2013, 18:37
Hello jdobbs

i have a collection of tv show on mkv format and each season have at least 16 episodes. So, i wish to create (lets say 4) episodes per disc. And i don´t know the way for use Bd Rebuilder to put in the same disc those 4 episodes with standar menu, obviously converted a bluray format disc.

Can you help me? Any guide? Happy christmas

Guest
21st December 2013, 18:39
i have a collection of tv show on mkv format Where did you get these MKV files?

nounours18200
21st December 2013, 19:27
OK I have reduced the problem : I have no sound on my PC, but I do have sound when I read the Bluray (made with BD_rebuilder from the BD_rebuilder files) on my standalone OPPO Bluray player ...

So the pb is limitedto the PC: maybe a codec a missing ? do you have any idea about what could be wrong ?


Here is my log, looks different than yours:

----------------------
[12/21/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[16:27:51] Source: BD_LESTONTONSJAVA
- Input BD size: 30,08 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:40:21.606]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:27:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:27:52] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 6)
- [16:27:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [16:38:21] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 159*505 frames
- Bitrate: 14*507 Kbs
- [16:38:21] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:08:02] Video Encode complete
- [17:08:02] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (fra): Keeping original audio
- [17:08:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:11:11] Processing: VID_00001 (2 of 6)
- [17:11:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [17:12:54] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x576
- Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 34*532 frames
- Bitrate: 7*106 Kbs
- [17:12:54] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:14:52] Video Encode complete
- [17:14:52] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (fra): Keeping original audio
- [17:14:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:15:16] Processing: VID_00002 (3 of 6)
- [17:15:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [17:16:15] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x576
- Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 32*510 frames
- Bitrate: 5*998 Kbs
- [17:16:15] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:17:48] Video Encode complete
- [17:17:48] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (fra): Keeping original audio
- [17:17:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:18:08] Processing: VID_00003 (4 of 6)
- [17:18:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [17:22:28] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 77*943 frames
- Bitrate: 10*674 Kbs
- [17:22:28] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:36:20] Video Encode complete
- [17:36:20] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (fra): Keeping original audio
- [17:36:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:37:27] Processing: VID_00004 (5 of 6)
- [17:37:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [17:38:02] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 5*235 frames
- Bitrate: 10*672 Kbs
- [17:38:02] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:38:53] Video Encode complete
- [17:38:53] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (fra): Keeping original audio
- [17:38:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:39:03] Processing: VID_00103 (6 of 6)
- [17:39:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
- [17:39:21] Reencoding video [VID_00103]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1*440 frames
- Bitrate: 17*453 Kbs
- [17:39:21] Reencoding: VID_00103, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:39:42] Video Encode complete
- [17:39:42] Processing audio tracks
- [17:39:42] Multiplexing M2TS
[17:39:48]PHASE ONE complete
[17:39:48]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:39:48] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[17:40:29] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:40:29] JOB: BD_LESTONTONSJAVA finished.

Any idea on how to fix the sound pb on my PC ?

AmigaFuture
21st December 2013, 19:49
...we don't want to be leeches so c'mon everybody: December 24 happens to be the "official" 5th anniversary of BD-RB Beta. Let's all show jdobbs some appreciation by making a donation so he can put more BDs under the tree this Christmas (or pay his electric bill as the case may be)!

:D

I will not celebrate Christmas because it's Roman Emperor Constantine's creation. A little later, a bit after December another donation is coming. :D

I have "Now You See Me [Extended]"...so I'll also check to see if AnyDVD HD rips it correctly as per previous posts soon and relay.

brunchto
21st December 2013, 19:54
OK I have reduced the problem : I have no sound on my PC, but I do have sound when I read the Bluray (made with BD_rebuilder from the BD_rebuilder files) on my standalone OPPO Bluray player ...

So the pb is limitedto the PC: maybe a codec a missing ? do you have any idea about what could be wrong ?


Here is my log, looks different than yours:



Any idea on how to fix the sound pb on my PC ?

I've "keep hd for BD25" checked

AmigaFuture
21st December 2013, 20:18
I did that with The Mentalist episodes (5 seasons worth). TiVo capture, and used Closed Captions for Subtitles extracted from .TiVo file. Converted everything to MKV files (lots of them) then used BD-RB's Import now that the sweet Menu option is functioning well (for me;...Donation after December).

nounours18200
21st December 2013, 21:40
To brunchto:

I've "keep hd for BD25" checked

OK, I have checked this option and I launch a new necoding. I will post the result tomorrow because it is time to sleep in my country !...

Ch3vr0n
22nd December 2013, 01:13
What software are you using for playback and how are you passing it. In disc mode or simply opening the main movie file. Now with you saying no sound on PV in starting to think the problem lies with your playback software not being able to decode the hd audio properly.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

nounours18200
22nd December 2013, 10:20
I've "keep hd for BD25" checked

OK, I have checked this option and I launch a new necoding. I will post the result tomorrow because it is time to sleep in my country !...

Thank you Brunchto : this is the magic parameter : the sound is back on my PC !

jdobbs
22nd December 2013, 16:14
Hello jdobbs

i have a collection of tv show on mkv format and each season have at least 16 episodes. So, i wish to create (lets say 4) episodes per disc. And i don´t know the way for use Bd Rebuilder to put in the same disc those 4 episodes with standar menu, obviously converted a bluray format disc.

Can you help me? Any guide? Happy christmasFrom the FILES menu, select "Import Videofiles". Select the four you want together. They will be imported into a pseudo BD structure and it will be selected as the source. Then you just run BD-RB against the source (using full backup).

[Edit] Looks like this advice was too late...

greslogo
22nd December 2013, 18:35
Downloaded the latest Beta yesterday and got this error for the first time. Fast 6

- [12:17:37] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD Remove Annoying Adverts: Incompatible
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[12:17:37] - Failed video encode, aborted

greslogo
22nd December 2013, 18:48
Crap..... how did that get turned on.

Unfortunately I've ripped 3 BD's with that setting on, I think. I don't have them anymore.

Thanks.

Guest
22nd December 2013, 19:09
I don't have them anymore. Then you are not allowed to discuss this per forum rule 6, and members must not help you with this issue. Follow-up to PM if you need to clarify this; posting about rules etc. is forbidden by rule 17.

greslogo
22nd December 2013, 19:14
I understand and I apologize.

Guest
23rd December 2013, 00:37
Thanks for your understanding. We do this to protect the forum, not to hassle you. Knowledge is power -- if you know the rules you'll know how to post without causing problems for the forum.

Happy Holidays to you!

greslogo
23rd December 2013, 03:04
The same to you.

Sharc
24th December 2013, 12:16
DVD Subtitles are ignored when importing DVD's.
Is this a limitation of tsMuxeR's demuxer, or do I miss something?

RobertM
24th December 2013, 12:29
Well, it's December 24th. Time for my annual BD-RB Christmas donation....


...Done! Merry Christmas JD.

Mark_Venture
24th December 2013, 13:07
anyone else having problems with out of order scenes? Im doing movie only to DVD5 conversion, i had the problem with Now You See Me. Most movies i add into BD rebuilder show up as one single file. but when i add Now You see Me it shows multiple files, Disneys Planes does this too but i haven been able to watch it yet to see if it is also out of order.I saw the same thing. BD-Rebuilder picked the wrong play list. I had to manually pick playlist 651 to get the right order.

jdobbs
24th December 2013, 16:02
DVD Subtitles are ignored when importing DVD's.
Is this a limitation of tsMuxeR's demuxer, or do I miss something?They aren't ignored. They are converted to BD format and imported.

jdobbs
24th December 2013, 16:02
Well, it's December 24th. Time for my annual BD-RB Christmas donation....


...Done! Merry Christmas JD.
Thank you very much!

jdobbs
24th December 2013, 16:06
I saw the same thing. BD-Rebuilder picked the wrong play list. I had to manually pick playlist 651 to get the right order.There is no magic method for choosing a playlist. Nothing definitively differentiates a feature from any other playlist. BD-RB looks at a number of factors and make a determination which is the most probable to be the feature and chooses it. It's right about 99+% of the time -- but every now and then (especially when the source has been purposely convoluted to confuse) it misses and you have to find the playlist yourself.

Sometimes AnyDVD can identify the correct playlist on an obfuscated disc during decryption and stores it in a file called "disc.inf" in the root folder. If that's the case, BD-RB will use the specified playlist. So if you are copying to hard drive, make sure you always copy that file as well as the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders.

Sharc
24th December 2013, 16:13
They aren't ignored. They are converted to BD format and imported.
Hmmm..., that's what I thought it would do, however:
[10:18:15] Importing DVD: CLAN_DES_SICILIENS
- Processing DVD title [1 of 1]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Source issue, subtitle 1 ignored.
- Source issue, subtitle 2 ignored.
- Source issue, subtitle 3 ignored.
- Source issue, subtitle 4 ignored.
- Source issue, subtitle 5 ignored.
- Source issue, subtitle 6 ignored.
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
[10:31:27] DVD import completed successfully.

I could manually demux the Subs with eac3to, but not with tsMuxeR (1.10.6)
I did a lot of testing lately, so it could be that I have messed up something. Never mind.

Merry X-mas!

jdobbs
24th December 2013, 16:39
Hmmm..., that's what I thought it would do, however:


I could manually demux the Subs with eac3to, but not with tsMuxeR (1.10.6)
I did a lot of testing lately, so it could be that I have messed up something. Never mind.

Merry X-mas!They are ignored when BD-RB gets an error trying to decode them. I'm not familiar with that disc. Is there any way you can send me a short sample where the subtitle is ignored?

BD-RB doesn't use TSMUXER to demux DVDs, it does it itself.

Mark_Venture
24th December 2013, 16:41
There is no magic method for choosing a playlist. Nothing definitively differentiates a feature from any other playlist. BD-RB looks at a number of factors and make a determination which is the most probable to be the feature and chooses it. It's right about 99+% of the time -- but every now and then (especially when the source has been purposely convoluted to confuse) it misses and you have to find the playlist yourself.

Sometimes AnyDVD can identify the correct playlist on an obfuscated disc during decryption and stores it in a file called "disc.inf" in the root folder. If that's the case, BD-RB will use the specified playlist. So if you are copying to hard drive, make sure you always copy that file as well as the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders.Yeah, it has done a good job. There just those occasional movies. Now You Seem Me is one, Planes is another. And there are a few other Disney animated blurays I've backed up for my son.

But I would say about 95% or more of the time its been right on with picking the right playlist. The ones it gets wrong are the ones with like "25 million" play lists on them. I've looked in the disc.inf for these movies, and there is no entries or marking in it.

What I've ended up doing is searching the internet for threads about backing them up. I can usually find discussions and what others suggested.

omegaman7
24th December 2013, 16:44
There is no magic method for choosing a playlist. Nothing definitively differentiates a feature from any other playlist. BD-RB looks at a number of factors and make a determination which is the most probable to be the feature and chooses it. It's right about 99+% of the time -- but every now and then (especially when the source has been purposely convoluted to confuse) it misses and you have to find the playlist yourself.

Sometimes AnyDVD can identify the correct playlist on an obfuscated disc during decryption and stores it in a file called "disc.inf" in the root folder. If that's the case, BD-RB will use the specified playlist. So if you are copying to hard drive, make sure you always copy that file as well as the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders.
That's very good info. Thanks! :D

Sharc
24th December 2013, 17:22
They are ignored when BD-RB gets an error trying to decode them. I'm not familiar with that disc. Is there any way you can send me a short sample where the subtitle is ignored?

BD-RB doesn't use TSMUXER to demux DVDs, it does it itself.
Sample is in your mailbox.

jdobbs
24th December 2013, 22:49
To all the BD Rebuilder Beta Testers:

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

setarip_old
24th December 2013, 23:00
@jdobbs

And All the Best to You and Yours ;>}

Ch3vr0n
25th December 2013, 00:33
All the best as well, may the 3d implementation go smooth as well as other future developments.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

gonca
25th December 2013, 00:56
To jdobbs and everyone else

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
(and may the donations keep flowing)

HWK
25th December 2013, 05:25
To all the BD Rebuilder Beta Testers:

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Thank you and same goes for you as well :D

@ All, hope your new year is filled with the very best of everything!

AmigaFuture
25th December 2013, 06:20
Happy Winter Solstice JD and All! 2014 will Rock as all of them do. It's not the yearly/traditional celebrations that mean something..it's the moments OF/IN those that do.

slvrsrfr
25th December 2013, 17:07
Merry Chritmas, Jdobbs, and everyone else!

Jdobbs-I wanted to follow up on my post:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1655931#post1655931

Could this be related to the version of java on the bd players - i verified that all 3 bd players have the lastest firmware from the manufacturer. Can you think of another factor that would cause this behavior (i thought java version, for a lack of knowing anything else!).

thx.

jdobbs
25th December 2013, 21:28
Merry Chritmas, Jdobbs, and everyone else!

Jdobbs-I wanted to follow up on my post:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1655931#post1655931

Could this be related to the version of java on the bd players - i verified that all 3 bd players have the lastest firmware from the manufacturer. Can you think of another factor that would cause this behavior (i thought java version, for a lack of knowing anything else!).

thx.I have found something that may be related to that in the M2TS that holds the menu IGS stream. I'm still working on it. You should see an update in the next release.

sonate
26th December 2013, 14:20
To all the BD Rebuilder Beta Testers:

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

To you too JD and your close ones. A warm joyful Christmas and peaceful healthy New Year. Thank you for all you have done here.

slvrsrfr
27th December 2013, 04:10
I have found something that may be related to that in the M2TS that holds the menu IGS stream. I'm still working on it. You should see an update in the next release.

Wow, excellent, thanks for the hard work!

DMagic1
27th December 2013, 07:01
Yeah, I guess I'm due to make another($$).

Thanks for all the hard work over all these years with this project and past ones.

Sharc
28th December 2013, 12:35
When I import a couple of files I get as last Quick Menu title BD-RB's stars menu backdrop, together with the menu text, something like:
01. my title 1
02. my title 2
03. my title 3
04. Disc Extra: [00:00:01.042]Can/should I just delete this last menu text and leave the file 04. ticked (if I want to keep the stars backdrop), or should I leave this untouched?

gonca
28th December 2013, 13:16
You can edit it to 04. Disc Extra or possibly to 04.
You can add your own backdrop Sharc

laserfan
28th December 2013, 15:09
Does anyone here using DGIndexNV for DGI file creation point BD-RB to the 64-bit executable? I have had some trouble getting .DGIs created reliably and am trying to eliminate possibilities.

What happens is that a corrupt .DGI gets created and x264 chokes on the encoding attempt i.e. "Failed to encode video, aborting". It's easy to "fix" just by deleting the corrupt .DGI but something's flaky with my setup.

gonca
28th December 2013, 18:02
laserfan
If you want I can try it later. I will let you know if it works when I get a chance to try it, in a few hours.

laserfan
28th December 2013, 18:07
laserfan
If you want I can try it later. I will let you know if it works when I get a chance to try it, in a few hours.
Thanks gonca, though I'm not sure you'd see a problem in casual testing, given I don't see it reliably myself. So I was looking for someone else who has been using 64-bit DGIndexNV reliably for a while i.e. with a lot of discs.

Guest
28th December 2013, 18:08
Does anyone here using DGIndexNV for DGI file creation point BD-RB to the 64-bit executable? I have had some trouble getting .DGIs created reliably and am trying to eliminate possibilities.

What happens is that a corrupt .DGI gets created and x264 chokes on the encoding attempt i.e. "Failed to encode video, aborting". It's easy to "fix" just by deleting the corrupt .DGI but something's flaky with my setup. Can you show me one of these corrupt DGI files? Better yet, can you also provide a source stream that acts that way?

gonca
28th December 2013, 18:14
any reason why you don't use the 32 bit version of DGIndexNV?

laserfan
28th December 2013, 20:05
Can you show me one of these corrupt DGI files? Better yet, can you also provide a source stream that acts that way?
Don the only reason I've "picked-on" DGIndexNV is because it made a few broken .DGI files whereupon x264 choked on them resulting in the "Encode failed. Aborting...". But when I delete the faulty file(s) and run it again, it works fine so it's NOT repeatable.

Wondered if any other BD-RB'er regularly uses it sucessfully because I frankly don't use BD-RB very often, though I do use DGIndexNV.exe 64-bit regularly in my own custom .cmd files and it always performs flawlessly for me! So I think: the way it's called? A conflict with another running process? A glitch in the drive serving the .iso? VirtualCloneDrive? AnyDVDHD? My CPU or memory? Not likely to be a DG issue but thought I'd ask if others here use it regularly.

A couple sample "corrupt" .DGI files I had the presence of mind to save:

DGVC1IndexFileNV14 DGIndexNV 2046 X64
C:\Program Files (x86)\DGIndexNV\

V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts 754575360

DEVICE 0
DECODE_MODES 0,1,0
STREAM 1
PKTSIZ 192
VPID 4113
CLIP 0 0 0 0
RANGE 0 0 754575359 0
AUDIO

SEQ 798 1 1 0 5
ENTRY 823 0 64
0:FRM 0 0 2
1:FRM 3 0 2
2:FRM 1 0 2
3:FRM 3 0 2
4:FRM 1 0 2
5:FRM 3 0 2
6:FRM 1 0 2
7:FRM 3 0 2
8:FRM 1 0 2
9:FRM 1 0 2
10:FRM 3 0 2
11:FRM 1 0 2
12:FRM 3 0 2
13:FRM 1 0 2
SEQ 343902 1 1 0 5
ENTRY 343927 0 0
14:FRM 3 0 2
15:FRM 0 0 2
16:FRM 3 0 2
17:FRM 1 0 2
18:FRM 3 0 2
19:FRM 3 0 2
20:FRM 3 0 2
21:FRM 3 0 2
22:FRM 1 0 2
SEQ 2024478 1 1 0 5
ENTRY 2024503 0 0
23:FRM 3 0 2
24:FRM 0 0 2
25:FRM 3 0 2
26:FRM 3 0 2
27:FRM 1 0 2
28:FRM 3 0 2
29:FRM 1 0 2
30:FRM 1 0 2
31:FRM 3 0 2
32:FRM 1 0 2
33:FRM 1 0 2
34:FRM 3 0 2
35:FRM 1 0 2
36:FRM 3 0 2
37:FRM 1 0 2
38:FRM 3 0 2
39:FRM 1 0 2
40:FRM 1 0 2
41:FRM 3 0 2
42:FRM 1 0 2
43:FRM 3 0 2
44:FRM 1 0 2
45:FRM 3 0 2
46:FRM 1 0 2
47:FRM 3 0 2
48:FRM 3 0 2
49:FRM 1 0 2
50:FRM 3 0 2
51:FRM 1 0 2
52:FRM 1 0 2
SIZ 0 x 0
FPS 0 / 0
CODED 53
PLAYBACK 53
0.00% FILM
ORDER 1


DGAVCIndexFileNV14 DGIndexNV 2046 X64
C:\Program Files (x86)\DGIndexNV\

V:\BDMV\STREAM\00029.m2ts 138829824

DEVICE 0
DECODE_MODES 0,1,0
STREAM 1
PKTSIZ 192
VPID 4113
CLIP 0 0 0 0
RANGE 0 0 138829823 0
AUDIO

SIZ 0 x 0
FPS 0 / 0
CODED 0
PLAYBACK 0
0.00% FILM
ORDER -1

any reason why you don't use the 32 bit version of DGIndexNV?
Nah, only that it's what I use most of the time, so I've pointed BD-RB at it in my .INI file.

Guest
28th December 2013, 20:13
Well the problem is obviously the size being set as 0 x 0 and FPS as 0 / 0. And the second one has no frames at all. I've never seen anything like this, either using DGIndexNV standalone or with MEGUI (I haven't used BDRB).

You'd have to find a repeatable case and provide the stream to allow me to diagnose it. Maybe others can comment on your suggested causes.

EDIT: I can't even see a code path that would allow DGIndexNV to print 0 / 0 as the frame rate! So memory issues, etc., are possible.

Sharc
28th December 2013, 21:10
Does anyone here using DGIndexNV for DGI file creation point BD-RB to the 64-bit executable? I have had some trouble getting .DGIs created reliably and am trying to eliminate possibilities.

What happens is that a corrupt .DGI gets created and x264 chokes on the encoding attempt i.e. "Failed to encode video, aborting". It's easy to "fix" just by deleting the corrupt .DGI but something's flaky with my setup.
I am using DGIndex 64bit. Now you write this I remember that I had some time ago exactly the same. I noticed that the .dgi was 0 bytes, and opening it in a text editor showed that it was indeed empty.
I deleted the .dgi, restarted the indexing and all went smooth. I didn't pay much attention to the incident as it has happened only once. Unfortunately I don't remember the source. If I can trace it back I could try to reproduce the case.

laserfan
28th December 2013, 21:43
I can't even see a code path that would allow DGIndexNV to print 0 / 0 as the frame rate! So memory issues, etc., are possible.
Yikes, well I just re-ran the entire job yet again and there were no problems so I have to consider that it's unrelated to your program or to BD-RB either really. I'm going to run a chkdsk on my eSATA drive that the ISO is mounted from. Maybe it was just a noise problem over the eSATA cable--I've had problems with eSATA before though not from this drive. Anyway thanks Donald for looking at it.

And thank you too Sharc for chiming-in. I must say I impressed myself ;) by finding why x264 choked. That the job merely resumes after letting DGIndexNV try again is a relief of course.

Sorry for the distraction fellas--my money's on a weak eSATA link. :o

Guest
28th December 2013, 21:51
Run some good RAM checks also. I doubt the eSATA theory because I see only a memory corruption as a possibility. DGIndexNV reads the fps_num and fps_den from the stream. If either is seen as zero it changes it to 25fps. The only mechanism I can think of is that it reads the fps_num and fps_den correctly but then subsequently the memory gets trashed before the DGI is written.

Guest
28th December 2013, 21:54
I remember that I had some time ago exactly the same. I noticed that the .dgi was 0 bytes, and opening it in a text editor showed that it was indeed empty. That's not exactly the same. Here we have a DGI written but with bad values, not an empty DGI. In your case, something could have hung the process, so that the DGI was never written.

jdobbs
28th December 2013, 22:32
When I import a couple of files I get as last Quick Menu title BD-RB's stars menu backdrop, together with the menu text, something like:
01. my title 1
02. my title 2
03. my title 3
04. Disc Extra: [00:00:01.042]Can/should I just delete this last menu text and leave the file 04. ticked (if I want to keep the stars backdrop), or should I leave this untouched? Not sure I understand completely. You wouldn't see that during an import unless you ave the import threshold set very, very low.

jdobbs
28th December 2013, 22:35
Does anyone here using DGIndexNV for DGI file creation point BD-RB to the 64-bit executable? I have had some trouble getting .DGIs created reliably and am trying to eliminate possibilities.

What happens is that a corrupt .DGI gets created and x264 chokes on the encoding attempt i.e. "Failed to encode video, aborting". It's easy to "fix" just by deleting the corrupt .DGI but something's flaky with my setup.Never actually tried it.

Having trouble in what way? I've never had an issue with DGIndexNV...

Sharc
28th December 2013, 23:35
Not sure I understand completely. You wouldn't see that during an import unless you ave the import threshold set very, very low.
My settings were:
MENU_BACKGROUND=C:\Program Files Video\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=6
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=6
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1

laserfan
28th December 2013, 23:42
Run some good RAM checks also. I doubt the eSATA theory because I see only a memory corruption as a possibility. DGIndexNV reads the fps_num and fps_den from the stream. If either is seen as zero it changes it to 25fps. The only mechanism I can think of is that it reads the fps_num and fps_den correctly but then subsequently the memory gets trashed before the DGI is written.
FWIW when I watch BD-RB work I see a --demux meta file in BD-RB's WORKFILES but I don't see the result of the --demux i.e. the .m2ts file needed to make the .dgi. Maybe it goes into a TMP folder or is somehow done on-the-fly perhaps. Might it be possible to start the --demux and comment the .dgi creation concurrently? I wouldn't think so...I'd expect the .m2ts to be locked until demux is over. In any case the PC's been working real hard today and this last run's been perfect that I've now burned to disk.

I'm going to move my eSATA drive anyway and then I just might do the Memtest86+ and/or torture-test program whose name escapes me atm.

Guest
28th December 2013, 23:54
I don't see the result of the --demux i.e. the .m2ts file Not following you here. M2TS files do not need to be demuxed from anything.

laserfan
29th December 2013, 16:23
Well I had been looking at this AUD_00011.meta file, which purports to demux the video, though now that I look again at the .DGI file it does refer instead to the original .m2ts on the disc (see .DGI above):

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=29.97, track=4113
A_AC3, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4608,lang=jpn
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4609,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4610,lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4611,lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4612,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4613,lang=nld

So I admit I don't know what the demux of the vid is for here (result is "00011.track_4113.vc1") given it appears not to be for the .DGI file to act in concert with. I guess I will try to run it again just to watch how things unfold. I can't imagine that tsMuxeR could be demuxing the audio from the .m2ts at the same time that DGIndexNV is trying to index the very same m2ts file...?

EDIT: OK I'm running it again and clearly tsMuxeR.exe is running to demux the audio (and the videotrack) while DGIndexNV is running simultaneously, apparently (to me anyway) to index the very same .m2ts being demuxed. I wouldn't have thought this was possible, that the m2ts would be locked by one process or the other, but I am not a programmer.

:confused:

Guest
29th December 2013, 17:11
As you say it depends on whether the file is locked. But if you are just reading there is no need to lock it when opening it, and concurrent processes can read the same file. When writing a file you want exclusive access to avoid collisions.

jdobbs
29th December 2013, 17:59
Well I had been looking at this AUD_00011.meta file, which purports to demux the video, though now that I look again at the .DGI file it does refer instead to the original .m2ts on the disc (see .DGI above):

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", fps=29.97, track=4113
A_AC3, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4608,lang=jpn
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4609,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4610,lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4611,lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4612,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "V:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts",fps=29.97, track=4613,lang=nld

So I admit I don't know what the demux of the vid is for here (result is "00011.track_4113.vc1") given it appears not to be for the .DGI file to act in concert with. I guess I will try to run it again just to watch how things unfold. I can't imagine that tsMuxeR could be demuxing the audio from the .m2ts at the same time that DGIndexNV is trying to index the very same m2ts file...?

EDIT: OK I'm running it again and clearly tsMuxeR.exe is running to demux the audio (and the videotrack) while DGIndexNV is running simultaneously, apparently (to me anyway) to index the very same .m2ts being demuxed. I wouldn't have thought this was possible, that the m2ts would be locked by one process or the other, but I am not a programmer.

:confused:That demux is there to get the PGS and Audio files. The video is also demuxed but is only kept if BD-RB calculates that it is small enough to keep intact. Otherwise it is removed and the M2TS index (DGIndexNV) is used.

The file isn't locked... both processes are reading it simultaneously. That saves a lot of time because at any point one or the other is finding its records in cache rather than having to do a physical read. In most cases it takes about half as long as having to do each process sequentially.

laserfan
29th December 2013, 18:24
Ok I didn't know if this was possible; only thinking maybe 64-bit DGIndexNV might be too "quick on the draw" for tsMuxeR or something. That's a technical term...

Thanks for the explanations fellas. I had thought about "demux the video in case you use it as-is" but it's nice to get confirmation about that too J.

:o :) :D

jdobbs
29th December 2013, 18:50
Ok I didn't know if this was possible; only thinking maybe 64-bit DGIndexNV might be too "quick on the draw" for tsMuxeR or something. That's a technical term...

Thanks for the explanations fellas. I had thought about "demux the video in case you use it as-is" but it's nice to get confirmation about that too J.

:o :) :DI'd be very surprised if there is any significant difference in speed between 32 bit and 64 bit. Even if there was, that isn't going to increase disc access speeds. Just remember that BD-RB uses the 32 bit version of AVISYNTH -- so you must use the 32 bit version of DGDecNV.

It's possible the two apps may get out-of-sync in their reading, but that's rare. Generally the app that is behind in reading catches up because its data is cached, and it may even become the leader -- causing the other app to be cached and catch up. They may change positions several times during execution -- but most of the time they finish within a second of each other.

Blurayhd
30th December 2013, 05:21
Hi @jdobbs

You know i do not how to do with bd rebuilder, what options to use, I have some movies on Bluray discs and need to pass them directly to mkv format with no loss of both audio and video and subtitles , that is, all intact. I tried eg MakeMKV but give me a problem and I try to Bd rebuilder but it insists to make a "reencoding". There is an option of passing directly without "touching" audio and video and subs?

Thanks for your time!

sorry to bother you, I had not seen the option to intact audio / video

Thanks again

AmigaFuture
30th December 2013, 07:19
When I import a couple of files I get as last Quick Menu title BD-RB's stars menu backdrop, together with the menu text, something like:
01. my title 1
02. my title 2
03. my title 3
04. Disc Extra: [00:00:01.042]Can/should I just delete this last menu text and leave the file 04. ticked (if I want to keep the stars backdrop), or should I leave this untouched?

Switch BD-RB to Full Backup before importing; then....import. :D

Hi @jdobbs
sorry to bother you, I had not seen the option to intact audio / video

Thanks again

From BD-RB Menu select Mode. Movie-Only Backup. Alternate Movie-Only Output. It's in the list. :D

dfsooner
30th December 2013, 17:34
My settings were:
MENU_BACKGROUND=C:\Program Files Video\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=6
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=6
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1

Where are these MENU_ options documented? I couldn't find them in HIDDENOPTS or CHANGES.

Sharc
30th December 2013, 18:07
Switch BD-RB to Full Backup before importing; then....import. :D
D
Ahh......this did the trick. It depends on the workflow. Thanks.

Sharc
30th December 2013, 18:23
Where are these MENU_ options documented? I couldn't find them in HIDDENOPTS or CHANGES.
It's a copy from the .ini what is written there depending on your quick menu settings in the GUI.

dfsooner
30th December 2013, 19:02
It's a copy from the .ini what is written there depending on your quick menu settings in the GUI.

Then I suppose the .ini has to be edited manually to get an alternative background and change the other settings. However, there is nothing to indicate what alternate settings are permitted or what they mean.

Never mind. I found it under Settings/Import Quick-Play settings.

kristian65
30th December 2013, 19:38
Hi sorry for stupid question but i saw before a post how to turn off secondery forced subs so it wont be procesed.
Since im using swedish subs i not need eng forced subs. :)

gonca
30th December 2013, 23:05
Hi sorry for stupid question but i saw before a post how to turn off secondery forced subs so it wont be procesed.
Since im using swedish subs i not need eng forced subs. :)

What type of back-up

AmigaFuture
31st December 2013, 07:45
Ahh......this did the trick. It depends on the workflow. Thanks.

It was a fun adventure for me to notice also. "Oh, not a funky feature or a rodent in the program...ahhhh!" You're welcome.

Racer
31st December 2013, 18:15
Hello jdobbs,

is it actually possible to run the first pass with a CRF (e.g. 20) and only run the second pass if the target size would be exceeded?
This would help to reduce the size and also limit the size to a given value. Thanks!

Blurayhd
31st December 2013, 18:33
Hi jdobbs

They lent me a large collection of favorite movies on bluray. I would like to pass them as I always do with bd rebuilder but somehow able to remove the extras and things i do not want but retaining the original menu. I don´t know the option is there any way?

Cheers and have a happy new year, you and everyone on the forum!

Guest
31st December 2013, 18:44
They lent me a large collection of favorite movies on bluray. This violates our forum rule 6, putting our forum in jeopardy. You cannot make backups of copyrighted videos that someone has lent to you. Stop this nonsense or strikes will follow.

I also see that you are cross-posting, violating rule 8. You need to read and follow our forum rules or you will run into difficulties here.

Blurayhd
31st December 2013, 22:21
This violates our forum rule 6, putting our forum in jeopardy. You cannot make backups of copyrighted videos that someone has lent to you. Stop this nonsense or strikes will follow.

I also see that you are cross-posting, violating rule 8. You need to read and follow our forum rules or you will run into difficulties here.

@neuron2

Thanks for alerting me and tell me about this. I'll read the rules

Honestly, I do not know, there was no bad intention

Thank you again!

Guest
31st December 2013, 22:28
Thank you for your understanding and have a prosperous 2014.

kristian65
31st December 2013, 23:11
What type of back-up

movie only

gonca
31st December 2013, 23:41
From HIDDENOPTS.txt
FORCED_SUB_LANG=s s = 3 letter preferred language codes -- default is "eng", can be multiples (e.g. "ger;deu")

Make sure this is set for the Swedish language in BDREBUILDER.ini

kristian65
1st January 2014, 00:07
From HIDDENOPTS.txt
FORCED_SUB_LANG=s s = 3 letter preferred language codes -- default is "eng", can be multiples (e.g. "ger;deu")

Make sure this is set for the Swedish language in BDREBUILDER.ini

Thanks alot :)

DoctorM
2nd January 2014, 01:16
Tried a BD5 today with a one-pass CRF. The CRF value was 16.33 and the final disc 4.00gb.

When DVD Rebuilder misses the target by that much on a one-pass I'd normally deincrement the Q value, click 'Encode' then 'Rebuild'.
Although a CRF of 16.33 probably can't be improved by much, is a similar method available to tune BD RB? Is a 3 step vs one-click setting coming in the future?

What is the target size set to for a BD5, 4482mb or something less?

@ Racer - If the target size of a one-pass fails, doing a second pass shouldn't improve either quality or encoding speed. A new CRF encoding after adjusting the value is the best answer (if it is possible).

gonca
2nd January 2014, 01:37
@DoctorM
BD5_SIZE=n n = Change the output size (in one megabyte units) for BD-5 writes -- default = 4469
BD9_SIZE=n n = Change the output size (in one megabyte units) for BD-9 writes -- default = 8032
FIXED_CRF=n n = 10..50 - force CRF encoding to use this CRF value (output size control disappears)
From the HIDDENOPTS.txt file

DoctorM
2nd January 2014, 02:17
@DoctorM

From the HIDDENOPTS.txt file

Cheers.

I just noticed that the analysis only tested one really low value below the one it selected. Is that normal?
- Analyzing 21.27 15.64 16.74 16.36 [16.33]

gonca
2nd January 2014, 02:34
It decided that 16.33 was the best value for BD5. As for how many high or low values, it focus in to the value it needs. Next time it could be reversed.

DoctorM
2nd January 2014, 20:59
@gonca - I know when I've manually encoded using CRF (with MeGUI), tenths of a point rarely made much difference. Later I'm going to try testing clips and comparing 16.33 to 16.00. The bitrate difference should be awfully minor. To extrapolate 16.33 as the best with the next lower tested value is .69 below that seems like a pretty big estimation. Still, I don't know the algorithm used... and DVD RB's method always seemed damn good so I'm willing to assume it's still the best possible system.

@jdobbs - I'm a bit concerned about something though. Doing some further playing around with a BD25 to BD5 one pass CRF, I decided I wanted to compare source vs encode for quality.

source=ffmpegsource2("(Source)\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts").subtitle("Source")
encode=ffmpegsource2("(BDRB Encode)\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts").subtitle("Encode")
interleave(source,encode)

Just a few hundred frames in they go out of sync by a couple frames and then it moves back and forth throughout. No more than a few frames, but I'm at a loss to figure out why. ffms2 should be frame accurate and DVDRB encoding with directshowsource should be perfect since it is being encoded linearly. I'm not sure if I should be worried or not about this, but I've never seen that with encodings before. Any thoughts on this?

jdobbs
2nd January 2014, 22:12
@DoctorM

Are you playing end-to-end or jumping around and looking at the frames? ffpmegsource2 isn't frame-accurate when an M2TS is a source. From the ffmpegsource2 user manual:
M2TS, TS: Seeking seems to be off a few frames here and there

mparade
2nd January 2014, 22:42
@gonca - I know when I've manually encoded using CRF (with MeGUI), tenths of a point rarely made much difference. Later I'm going to try testing clips and comparing 16.33 to 16.00. The bitrate difference should be awfully minor. To extrapolate 16.33 as the best with the next lower tested value is .69 below that seems like a pretty big estimation. Still, I don't know the algorithm used... and DVD RB's method always seemed damn good so I'm willing to assume it's still the best possible system.

@jdobbs - I'm a bit concerned about something though. Doing some further playing around with a BD25 to BD5 one pass CRF, I decided I wanted to compare source vs encode for quality.

source=ffmpegsource2("(Source)\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts").subtitle("Source")
encode=ffmpegsource2("(BDRB Encode)\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts").subtitle("Encode")
interleave(source,encode)

Just a few hundred frames in they go out of sync by a couple frames and then it moves back and forth throughout. No more than a few frames, but I'm at a loss to figure out why. ffms2 should be frame accurate and DVDRB encoding with directshowsource should be perfect since it is being encoded linearly. I'm not sure if I should be worried or not about this, but I've never seen that with encodings before. Any thoughts on this?

In what program do you load the avs script? I would like to make some quality check also but with MPEG-4 sources to know which CRF value fits best to my need.

My current script is:

LoadPlugin("E:\Users\X\Downloads\dgavcdec109\DGAVCDecode.dll")
a = DirectShowSource("L:\BD-50\THE DARK KNIGHT RISES\DISC1\DARK_KNIGHT_RISES\BDMV\STREAM\00020.m2ts")
b = DirectShowSource("F:\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts")
Interleave(a,b)

DoctorM
3rd January 2014, 20:26
@DoctorM

Are you playing end-to-end or jumping around and looking at the frames? ffpmegsource2 isn't frame-accurate when an M2TS is a source. From the ffmpegsource2 user manual:

That's probably it. Will extract the video and try again.

@mparade - directshowsource is definitely not frame accurate. You will need to index the files before you can do this. Demux the video streams and use either ffmpegsource2 or DGAVCIndex.

For viewing, I'm a throwback and still use VirtualDubMod. It still works so I've never felt a reason to change.

mparade
3rd January 2014, 21:57
That's probably it. Will extract the video and try again.

@mparade - directshowsource is definitely not frame accurate. You will need to index the files before you can do this. Demux the video streams and use either ffmpegsource2 or DGAVCIndex.

For viewing, I'm a throwback and still use VirtualDubMod. It still works so I've never felt a reason to change.

Thank you for the help. Anyway, I have been still using VirtualdubMod as well since the beginning of the release of DVD-RB. :o

MuttLover
3rd January 2014, 23:24
First off, thank-you for making such a useful product. I donated to and used the original DVD Rebuilder product and I have donated to and use the BD Rebuilder product.
I apologize if this has been reported before. I did a search on this thread and did not see the issue come up.
I have been backing up the holiday DVDs and ran across some strange behavior in The Wolverine, NTSC, Movie-only backup, Keep HD soundtrack, all English subtitles, all English soundtracks, BD. The forced subtitles in the film do not automatically clear off the screen. To get them to clear, I had to fast forward. Otherwise the last subtitle would stay up.

FYI:
I have run inspect.exe and all items check out OK.
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [3326], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Windows 7.0, 64 Bit Home premium up-to-date

I was working on a series of backups so I did not get a log file.

Thanks for your help, and as I said before, my apologies if you were already aware of this.

Encoder settings, automatic, this is the vanilla version of the BDREBUILDER.ZIP.

Setup changes:
unchecked "Limit to one track for each language" for both audio and subtitles
checked "Keep HD Audio for BD25/Alternate intact"
All other setup is the vanilla setup.
Movie-only mode

RobertM
4th January 2014, 00:00
The forced subtitles in the film do not automatically clear off the screen.

Hmm... Interesting. I recently had an instance like this. And it may well have been on "The Wolverine" (can't remember exactly). Could be a bug in the original subtitle stream, I suppose.

jdobbs
4th January 2014, 00:23
I just did a movie-only backup of Wolverine two days ago... but I was reencoding the soundtrack to AC3. I run it again keeping the HD audio and see what happens.

DoctorM
4th January 2014, 02:28
Demuxed the video tracks with tsMuxerGUI, indexed with DGAVCIndex, modified the script and bing the frames line up perfectly. Whew.
Sorry for stupidly freaking out. Everyone always crow about how great ffmpegsource is, but not it's failures like issues with transport streams.

The final encoding from an animated film, 19gb down to 4gb, BDRB made a pristine copy. I'm hard pressed to find any differences randomly checking frames. Great stuff.

Guest
4th January 2014, 02:32
Everyone always crow about how great ffmpegsource is, but not it's failures like issues with transport streams. +1

M2TS, TS: Seeking seems to be off a few frames here and there After all, it is so hard to parse a transport stream. ;)

Call it the dark side of open source software.

manolito
4th January 2014, 04:38
Sorry if this has been answered before, but what is your current opinion regarding ffdshow vs. LAV filters?

So far I have been using the recommended versions of ffdshow and Haali from the first post of this thread without any issues. But recently I ran into troubles decoding source files with a non-mod4 width, and switching from ffdshow to LAV filters solved all these problems.

Since ffdshow is not developped any more, and Haali does not support some current formats, is it safe to ditch ffdshow and Haali and use the current (0.59.1) version of LAV filters instead?



Cheers
manolito

DoctorM
4th January 2014, 05:55
Sorry if this has been answered before, but what is your current opinion regarding ffdshow vs. LAV filters?

So far I have been using the recommended versions of ffdshow and Haali from the first post of this thread without any issues. But recently I ran into troubles decoding source files with a non-mod4 width, and switching from ffdshow to LAV filters solved all these problems.

Since ffdshow is not developped any more, and Haali does not support some current formats, is it safe to ditch ffdshow and Haali and use the current (0.59.1) version of LAV filters instead?



Cheers
manolito
The last build I see of ffdshow was December 3rd (rev 4527). I don't know what you're following.

manolito
4th January 2014, 06:05
The last build I see of ffdshow was December 3rd (rev 4527). I don't know what you're following.

What am I following???

The last official and recommended version of ffdshow on sourceforge is from 2013-01-06 - ffdshow 1.3.4500

The version jdobbs endorses is ffdshow_rev4504_20130312_clsid.exe from March 2013.

And here is a recent quote from qyot27:
ffdshow's development has almost halted, and on top of that, it relies on an internal copy of the libav* libraries, whereas LAV Filters doesn't. So basically, LAV is actively maintained and uses much more up-to-date versions of avcodec, avformat, etc. It's also capable of playing both HEVC and Opus - ffdshow can't (and unless there's been a recent update, Haali can't deal with Opus streams in MKV, despite Opus-in-MKV being finalized back in July).


Plus a few posts by clsid:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1645211#post1645211
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1656467#post1656467
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1656599#post1656599


So this is what I am following...:mad:


Cheers
manolito

jdobbs
4th January 2014, 17:31
Sorry if this has been answered before, but what is your current opinion regarding ffdshow vs. LAV filters?

So far I have been using the recommended versions of ffdshow and Haali from the first post of this thread without any issues. But recently I ran into troubles decoding source files with a non-mod4 width, and switching from ffdshow to LAV filters solved all these problems.

Since ffdshow is not developped any more, and Haali does not support some current formats, is it safe to ditch ffdshow and Haali and use the current (0.59.1) version of LAV filters instead?



Cheers
manolitoIt's been a while, but if I recall correctly the LAV filters have difficulty with VC-1 interlaced content. I'll give it a test later today and let you know if that is still the case.

DoctorM
4th January 2014, 21:06
What am I following???

The last official and recommended version of ffdshow on sourceforge is from 2013-01-06 - ffdshow 1.3.4500

The version jdobbs endorses is ffdshow_rev4504_20130312_clsid.exe from March 2013.

And here is a recent quote from qyot27:



Plus a few posts by clsid:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1645211#post1645211
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1656467#post1656467
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1656599#post1656599


So this is what I am following...:mad:


Cheers
manolito

So your quote regarding ffdshow's development is from a programmer of LAV filters. I'd take that with a grain of salt.

I'm not looking to start a fight, but BD RB already works. Have you found a bug with BD RB and ffdshow that you are reporting or are you just voicing your preference for your favorite filter? Do you have HEVC and Opus BD that need re-encoding?

Guest
4th January 2014, 23:36
manolito has already clearly stated his motivation:

"But recently I ran into troubles decoding source files with a non-mod4 width, and switching from ffdshow to LAV filters solved all these problems."

jdobbs
4th January 2014, 23:50
Sorry if this has been answered before, but what is your current opinion regarding ffdshow vs. LAV filters?

So far I have been using the recommended versions of ffdshow and Haali from the first post of this thread without any issues. But recently I ran into troubles decoding source files with a non-mod4 width, and switching from ffdshow to LAV filters solved all these problems.

Since ffdshow is not developped any more, and Haali does not support some current formats, is it safe to ditch ffdshow and Haali and use the current (0.59.1) version of LAV filters instead?



Cheers
manolitoIt's been a while, but if I recall correctly the LAV filters have difficulty with VC-1 interlaced content. I'll give it a test later today and let you know if that is still the case.Well at least on the VC-1 interlaced source I tested today it appear X264's LAVF function is now decoding it properly. I'll do some more testing.

Right now, though, if LAVF is selected and BD-RB encounters a VC-1 interlaced source BD-RB reverts to DirectshowSource() for frame serving. The same happens when there is resizing or other AVISYNTH filter requirements based upon settings.

If my continued testing confirms what this one source suggests, I may have to change the process flow. X264 has some internal filtering capabilities (like resizing) so I may be able to make LAVF work in more scenarios than now. Assuming all is well, it may even be worth consideration to make LAVF the default at some point.

nozuul
5th January 2014, 02:33
Not sure I know what I am doing with this one. This is the first time I have tried using the forced subs feature. Also the first time I got a fail in quite awhile.

Here is the Log.

[01/04/14] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[14:34:56] Source: THE_WOLVERINE_00800
- Input BD size: 40.82 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:18:05.277]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: iPad 2+/iPhone 4s+, 720x480/576, 128Kbs AAC
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:34:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:34:57] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 1)
- [14:34:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [14:44:13] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 198,648 frames
- [14:44:14] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[14:44:15] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any ideas?

Thanks

nozuul
5th January 2014, 03:00
Never mind, I had installed the x64 version of SupTitle

Once I installed the x86 files, it seems to be chugging along just fine.

My bad.

Thanks anyway!

manolito
5th January 2014, 04:06
If my continued testing confirms what this one source suggests, I may have to change the process flow. X264 has some internal filtering capabilities (like resizing) so I may be able to make LAVF work in more scenarios than now. Assuming all is well, it may even be worth consideration to make LAVF the default at some point.

Thanks a lot jdobbs for looking into it.:thanks:


Cheers
manolito

laserfan
7th January 2014, 23:08
I was fiddling with my "Mud" BD today and noticed that the .meta file for my BD-9 Movie-Only mux was set for MUXOPT --avchd. This surprised me as I don't have "Strict AVCHD for BD-5/9 Movie Only" checked and the .INI file has AVCHD=0.

Is this normal or did I find a bug of some sort? I don't think I've ever tried a BD-9 before with BD-RB, and the several BD-25s I've done of course are all muxed as Blu-ray.

gonca
8th January 2014, 00:10
@laserfan
Don't quote me on this, I have been known to be wrong -- in fact well known ;), but Movie-Only and BD-9 make it AVCHD. The strict setting applies to audio, AC3 only, bit rates etc -- strict adherence to the spec. If it is not checked BD_RB doesn't enforce the spec as tightly.

laserfan
8th January 2014, 14:27
@laserfan
Don't quote me on this, I have been known to be wrong -- in fact well known ;), but Movie-Only and BD-9 make it AVCHD. The strict setting applies to audio, AC3 only, bit rates etc -- strict adherence to the spec. If it is not checked BD_RB doesn't enforce the spec as tightly.
Thanks, I had read in the changelog something about defaulting to AVCHD back in 2011, but then I find that setting which is why I'm confused.

I'm surprised jdobbs if you didn't put a hidden opt or override somewhere for this muxing variation.

jdobbs
8th January 2014, 15:20
It's just a way of ensuring a broader range of compatibility. If it is BD-5 or BD-9 it is output using TSMUXER's "--avchd" option. There's really no reason to override it. There are other settings that are specific to BD-5/9 as well. For example, the maximum bitrate has to be lowered because a DVD+-R disc/drive can't read at BD specification rates.

laserfan
8th January 2014, 16:19
OK, thanks for that jdobbs. I do wonder what (if any) are the ins-and-outs of --avchd vs --blu-ray i.e. the 200 vs 100 designations & whatnot. I remember there was a lot of discussion about this years ago but I'm not able to resurrect those posts (or brain cells). Maybe it was as simple as "some settop players *need* --avchd for BD-5/9 and/or homemade discs or they won't play" or something, though obviously my players don't care as I have always (manually, not BD-RB) made all my backups using --blu-ray.

The above disc (Mud) I did not burn as --avchd so I won't find-out from that. I had to trim a horribly loud/obnoxious LIONSGATE thing off'n the front of the movie so I changed the meta to --blu-ray.

jdobbs
8th January 2014, 16:34
OK, thanks for that jdobbs. I do wonder what (if any) are the ins-and-outs of --avchd vs --blu-ray i.e. the 200 vs 100 designations & whatnot. I remember there was a lot of discussion about this years ago but I'm not able to resurrect those posts (or brain cells). Maybe it was as simple as "some settop players *need* --avchd for BD-5/9 and/or homemade discs or they won't play" or something, though obviously my players don't care as I have always (manually, not BD-RB) made all my backups using --blu-ray.

The above disc (Mud) I did not burn as --avchd so I won't find-out from that. I had to trim a horribly loud/obnoxious LIONSGATE thing off'n the front of the movie so I changed the meta to --blu-ray.Personally I'd leave it at avchd unless you're planning on using the same player forever. But, as always, the choice is yours. The version numbers are different in the different configuration (mpls, clpi, etc.) files (e.g. the header in the index.bdmv file is "INDX0100" rather than "INDX0200" for blu-ray) -- which some players require for BD-5/9 playback.

Honestly, though, now that BD-R discs are almost the same price as DVD+R DL, I do most of my backups to BD-R (I used to do most to DVD+R DL).

laserfan
8th January 2014, 18:36
I do most of my backups to BD-R (I used to do most to DVD+R DL).
Yeah me too, which is why I hadn't noticed this AVCHD thing before.

Thanks for your comments. I believe some day that I will get a 3D or 4K or ??? player, but for my current use I have three players, one I use a little and the other two I don't use at all, so I don't worry about AVCHD or Cinavia for example. These are gonna last a very long time...

:)

ripburnlearn
9th January 2014, 04:52
I'm trying to compress the new Robocop Blu-Ray (the unrated Director's cut) from 50GB to 25GB. Every time I run the BD-RB app it crashes. I'm using the latest version 0.45.05.

I saw on your website jdobbs a BD-RB System Inspection app. I ran it and here are the results:
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 4504, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- More info available if run from BD-RB folder

I made sure to download the "recommended" versions of each of these apps in the first post of this thread and I got the above. Why is it coming up as "not recommended" in this app?

ripburnlearn
9th January 2014, 04:59
The forum won't let me edit my last post. And just to add to my last post, it crashes my entire computer while it is encoding the film someone around 30%. I think I had this issue before but I can't remember what the exact solution it was. I think I installed in older version of one of the apps. I'm not sure if this Blu ray is the culprit for this app to crash.

EDIT: Ohhhhh, I downloaded the inspection app from the videohelp website. I guess that app is old or something? I went inside of my BDRB folder and I found the same Inspect app and it says:
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.45.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Everything is OK but my computer. It has crashed and reset itself so many times during my attempts to encode.

RocKKer
9th January 2014, 15:45
ripburnlearn,

You seem to have all the supporting software correct.

If your not overclocking, resets while stressed can many times be caused by faulty memory. It could be other things, but I would start by testing memory first.

If it is overclocked, return it to default settings and try BDRB again.

pm sent.

Guest
9th January 2014, 15:56
Also check all fans, clean heat sink fins, and general cooling.

Ch3vr0n
9th January 2014, 16:41
@ripburnlearn: it would help if you would post the entire log from the rebuild attempt and not just the inspect.exe results. Those alone don't mean a damn thing.

ripburnlearn
9th January 2014, 21:47
Love you guys! That was the problem, my overclock was causing the crashes. I have an AMD FX 8350 and I overclocked it to 4.3GHz. It was causing problems with other apps, I guess this BD Rebuilder app is a true CPU tester. I have to go back to 4GHz now, boooo. haha. I'm getting about 72FPS encoding speeds. Is that good? It was at 74-75FPS with the overclock.

It looks like the new Robocop 4K Remastered Edition has been compressed (the movie title is confusing, the film isn't in 4K its in 1080P). Consider me very happy! You can get the movie at Best Buy for $8, it comes with $7.50 of free Hollywood Movie Cash which can be used at almost all movie theaters. I think you can only use it for the new Robocop movie that is coming out though. Still, that's a really awesome movie deal!

jdobbs
9th January 2014, 22:08
Love you guys! That was the problem, my overclock was causing the crashes. I have an AMD FX 8350 and I overclocked it to 4.3GHz. It was causing problems with other apps, I guess this BD Rebuilder app is a true CPU tester. I have to go back to 4GHz now, boooo. haha. I'm getting about 72FPS encoding speeds. Is that good? It was at 74-75FPS with the overclock.

It looks like the new Robocop 4K Remastered Edition has been compressed (the movie title is confusing, the film isn't in 4K its in 1080P). Consider me very happy! You can get the movie at Best Buy for $8, it comes with $7.50 of free Hollywood Movie Cash which can be used at almost all movie theaters. I think you can only use it for the new Robocop movie that is coming out though. Still, that's a really awesome movie deal!I'm also running an FX-8350 on my main video encoding computer. I run at 4.2Ghz and I'm cooling with a Corsair water-cooled system. Even with that I have to clean out the radiator every month or two to keep my system from overheating.

X264 is the ultimate test for overclocking.

jdobbs
11th January 2014, 14:47
I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new version of BD-RB (v0.46.03). Changes for this release:- Added fully BD compliant 3D support for
movie-only backups. SBS and O/U 3D output
is still supported via selection of the
"Enable SBS 3D Movie-Only output" option
in the setup menu and the "TYPE_OF_3D"
hidden option output, but is not the pre-
ferred 3D method. NOTE: This feature
requires Windows 7 or higher, and will be
disabled on lower O/S versions.
- Created a new hidden option, OUTPUT_3D_ISO.
By default movie-only backups are written
directly to an ISO image for burning rather
than a folder. Setting this option to "0"
will create a folder instead. Note: Using
the folder option will result in degraded
output due to the structure of 3D discs.
- Added a hidden option "MENU_FORCE_QUICK=1"
that will create a quick menu even when
only one playlist is selected to be kept.
This applies only to Quick-Play backups,
not to imports.
- Updated code to fully support DTS Express
secondary streams without the need for
special processing.
- Fixed an issue in which the Quick-Plan and
import MENU's IGS M2TS file could be
incorrectly timed -- which could cause
problems on some players.
- Corrected an error in which the SupTitle
checkbox was not being properly initiated
when the SETUP dialog form is loaded.
- Corrected an error in which some PGCs could
be incorrectly ignored during DVD imports.
- Added a new hidden option, ALTPATH, that is
read at program start. This creates a path
to a customized ALTERNATE.TXT file that can
be created by a user. Note that the option
must be placed in the "[Paths]" area of the
config/INI file. See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more
details.
- Corrected an issue in which menu backgrounds
created for IMPORT/Quick-Play could have
GOP lengths that are too long when a target
size of BD-5 or BD-9 has been selected.
- Fixed an error in backup of 3D sources to
SBS or O/U format that could result in sizes
that are significantly smaller than selected
targets.
- Corrected an error in which multipart VC-1
interlaced sources or secondary video in
movie-only mode could cause BD-RB to stop
with "Error in attempt to MKVMERGE" during
A/V extraction.
- Corrected an error in which the main feature
could (under odd circumstances) be ignored
and not appear in the BD IMPORT list.
- Fixed a problem in which collecting/using
a menu background that used VC-1 was not
working during BD IMPORT.
- Added FRIMDecode and FRIMEncode (v1.19) to
BD-RB's included set of tools.
- Updated the included version of TSMUXER to
a newer release (v2.6.11).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes. Note that there have been significant modifications to this release in order to implement 3D movie-only processing and to reorganize the process flow for the future possibility of full 3D backups -- please report any newly found issues in this thread. Another example of why the software is in a seemingly never-ending "beta" state. Next up -- enabling the software to run without a requirement for AVISYNTH, HAALI, and FFDSHOW.

Ch3vr0n
11th January 2014, 14:58
Jdobbs, can you explain why 3d requires w7? Why won't it work with vista for example. That is my main rig and I can't upgrade it without risking issues with custom software that would require a costly technician to come round to the house. There isn't that much difference between vista and w7. W7 is built on vista.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 met Tapatalk

laserfan
11th January 2014, 15:16
Changes for this release:
- Updated the included version of TSMUXER to
a newer release (v2.6.11).

I have been wondering whether 2.6.11 was "ready for prime-time" yet. Your endorsement is good enough for me. Thanks!

jdobbs
11th January 2014, 15:21
Jdobbs, can you explain why 3d requires w7? Why won't it work with vista for example. That is my main rig and I can't upgrade it without risking issues with custom software that would require a costly technician to come round to the house. There isn't that much difference between vista and w7. W7 is built on vista.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 met TapatalkIt needs to be decoded with FRIMDecode and encoded with FRIMEncode. They require Windows 7. There is no other viable option, nor one that I see on the near horizon.

jdobbs
11th January 2014, 15:24
I have been wondering whether 2.6.11 was "ready for prime-time" yet. Your endorsement is good enough for me. Thanks! It still has some things that need to be worked out. But from my testing either those things don't have an impact, or I've found a workaround for use in BD-RB's operation. We'll know more after this version gets some good rubber-on-the-road testing from everyone.

Ch3vr0n
11th January 2014, 16:04
Ah well, I suppose I can fire up that dual boot on the rig one you manage to implement full disc 3d backup. Got w7 installed, Just never use it unless I have to.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 met Tapatalk

laserfan
11th January 2014, 16:28
It still has some things that need to be worked out. But from my testing, either those things don't have an impact, or I've found a workaround for use in BD-RB's operation. We'll know more after this version gets some good rubber-on-the-road testing from everyone.
Thank you for cautioning. :)

jdobbs
11th January 2014, 17:20
Ah well, I suppose I can fire up that dual boot on the rig one you manage to implement full disc 3d backup. Got w7 installed, Just never use it unless I have to.

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I don't have Vista installed on any of my systems right now, so I can't test it. What version number shows when BD-RB runs under Vista (I can't remember)?

Ch3vr0n
11th January 2014, 18:31
well there won't be issues with windows itself, but their may be issues with the custom (accounting) software. For pdf functionality, it relies on a custom built (by them) of a pdf printer (non-adobe) which may stop working on the upgrade, same for in-app invoice mailing capabilities.

Inspect shows: windows version 6.0 [6002] for vista

jdobbs
11th January 2014, 18:48
well there won't be issues with windows itself, but their may be issues with the custom (accounting) software. For pdf functionality, it relies on a custom built (by them) of a pdf printer (non-adobe) which may stop working on the upgrade, same for in-app invoice mailing capabilities.

Inspect shows: windows version 6.0 [6002] for vistaIf you want I can create a test version for you that will accept 6.0 for testing (now it looks for 6.1) -- and you can test it to see if it works.

Ch3vr0n
11th January 2014, 18:56
that would be AWESOME, it would both help me and perhaps even you as you'd know if vista (ultimate x64 in my case) would work or not. Got a couple 3D discs i can test it on :)

rendez2k
11th January 2014, 19:05
Quick question with the new 3D mode - is there anywhere that states its a 3D disc before conversion? For instance, should I be seeing a '3D Movie Only' option in the menu?

Sharc
11th January 2014, 20:07
I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new version of BD-RB (v0.46.03). Changes for this release:- Added fully BD compliant 3D support for
movie-only backups. SBS and O/U 3D output
is still supported via selection of the
"Enable SBS 3D Movie-Only output" option
in the setup menu and the "TYPE_OF_3D"
hidden option output, but is not the pre-
ferred 3D method. NOTE: This feature
requires Windows 7 or higher, and will be
disabled on lower O/S versions.
- Created a new hidden option, OUTPUT_3D_ISO.
By default movie-only backups are written
directly to an ISO image for burning rather
than a folder. Setting this option to "0"
will create a folder instead. Note: Using
the folder option will result in degraded
output due to the structure of 3D discs.
- Added a hidden option "MENU_FORCE_QUICK=1"
that will create a quick menu even when
only one playlist is selected to be kept.
This applies only to Quick-Play backups,
not to imports.
- Updated code to fully support DTS Express
secondary streams without the need for
special processing.
- Fixed an issue in which the Quick-Plan and
import MENU's IGS M2TS file could be
incorrectly timed -- which could cause
problems on some players.
- Corrected an error in which the SupTitle
checkbox was not being properly initiated
when the SETUP dialog form is loaded.
- Corrected an error in which some PGCs could
be incorrectly ignored during DVD imports.
- Added a new hidden option, ALTPATH, that is
read at program start. This creates a path
to a customized ALTERNATE.TXT file that can
be created by a user. Note that the option
must be placed in the "[Paths]" area of the
config/INI file. See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more
details.
- Corrected an issue in which menu backgrounds
created for IMPORT/Quick-Play could have
GOP lengths that are too long when a target
size of BD-5 or BD-9 has been selected.
- Fixed an error in backup of 3D sources to
SBS or O/U format that could result in sizes
that are significantly smaller than selected
targets.
- Corrected an error in which multipart VC-1
interlaced sources or secondary video in
movie-only mode could cause BD-RB to stop
with "Error in attempt to MKVMERGE" during
A/V extraction.
- Corrected an error in which the main feature
could (under odd circumstances) be ignored
and not appear in the BD IMPORT list.
- Fixed a problem in which collecting/using
a menu background that used VC-1 was not
working during BD IMPORT.
- Added FRIMDecode and FRIMEncode (v1.19) to
BD-RB's included set of tools.
- Updated the included version of TSMUXER to
a newer release (v2.6.11).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes. Note that there have been significant modifications to this release in order to implement 3D movie-only processing and to reorganize the process flow for the future possibility of full 3D backups -- please report any newly found issues in this thread. Another example of why the software is in a seemingly never-ending "beta" state. Next up -- enabling the software to run without a requirement for AVISYNTH, HAALI, and FFDSHOW.
Wow!!! Busy weekend for testing in sight!
Thanks a lot for the new version.

Sharc
11th January 2014, 20:41
Quick question with the new 3D mode - is there anywhere that states its a 3D disc before conversion? For instance, should I be seeing a '3D Movie Only' option in the menu?
Good question.
Is 3D enabled "silently"? The menu structure and Settings look like before for 2D. I may probably be missing something ..... ?

Edit:
I just found that 3D encoding gets automatically enabled for "movie only" if the source is 3D. No special settings required. :o
Now the question remains what to do it if I want the Movie Only backup in 2D? :devil:

jdobbs
11th January 2014, 21:03
Quick question with the new 3D mode - is there anywhere that states its a 3D disc before conversion? For instance, should I be seeing a '3D Movie Only' option in the menu?You'll see "MVC 3D Output Mode enabled" and "Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode" in the log.

jdobbs
11th January 2014, 21:22
that would be AWESOME, it would both help me and perhaps even you as you'd know if vista (ultimate x64 in my case) would work or not. Got a couple 3D discs i can test it on :)Check your PM.

Monty11
12th January 2014, 04:26
When BD-RB v0.45.05 processes a 704x464 pixel MKV file I have, it imports the file OK, but when I press Backup the process fails with the message "Haali Media Splitter. Error: can't open file: The media type of this file is not recognized." The file was produced by VidCoder (= Handbrake). Inspect.exe gives OK for all tests.

Here are the MKV file details: Width : 704 pixels Height : 464 pixels Display aspect ratio : 4:3 Original display aspect ratio : 4:3 Frame rate : 29.970 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame)

[jdobbs kindly commented on this problem in the tsMuxeR GUI thread, but moved the discussion (by mistake, I think) to the DVD Rebuilder thread rather than the BD-RB thread.]

Sharc
12th January 2014, 11:19
...Note that there have been significant modifications to this release in order to implement 3D movie-only processing and to reorganize the process flow for the future possibility of full 3D backups -- please report any newly found issues in this thread. Another example of why the software is in a seemingly never-ending "beta" state. Next up -- enabling the software to run without a requirement for AVISYNTH, HAALI, and FFDSHOW.
I want to report back that a 3-D backup on BD-9 finished successfully without issues. Quality is quite good for the 90 minutes movie.
It is perhaps a bit irritating that the log lists the irrelevant settings for 2-D as well, like
- RESIZE 1920 to 1440 enabled
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
These have no effect though; pure cosmetics.

Sharc
12th January 2014, 12:33
They are ignored when BD-RB gets an error trying to decode them. I'm not familiar with that disc. Is there any way you can send me a short sample where the subtitle is ignored?

BD-RB doesn't use TSMUXER to demux DVDs, it does it itself.
These subs are still ignored by the latest version 0.46.03.
I sent you a short sample; anything special with the format? Not terribly important as I had this problem only with this particular disc so far.

brunchto
12th January 2014, 12:34
Hi,

thanks for the last BDRB version !!!
I 've tried to make a BR3D movie only backup. i wish to do this without reencoding, but i cannot find how.
for BR2D, if final size is lower than destination, then there is no reencode. but for 3D, there is always reencoding of the video part.

Is there a way to do 3DBR without reencoding?

Sharc
12th January 2014, 12:41
Hi,

thanks for the last BDRB version !!!
I 've tried to make a BR3D movie only backup. i wish to do this without reencoding, but i cannot find how.
for BR2D, if final size is lower than destination, then there is no reencode. but for 3D, there is always reencoding of the video part.

Is there a way to do 3DBR without reencoding?
Did you try with
FORCE_NOENCODE=1
in the BDREBUILDER.ini ?
(see hiddenopts.txt)

jdobbs
12th January 2014, 14:14
When BD-RB v0.45.05 processes a 704x464 pixel MKV file I have, it imports the file OK, but when I press Backup the process fails with the message "Haali Media Splitter. Error: can't open file: The media type of this file is not recognized." The file was produced by VidCoder (= Handbrake). Inspect.exe gives OK for all tests.

Here are the MKV file details: Width : 704 pixels Height : 464 pixels Display aspect ratio : 4:3 Original display aspect ratio : 4:3 Frame rate : 29.970 fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame)

[jdobbs kindly commented on this problem in the tsMuxeR GUI thread, but moved the discussion (by mistake, I think) to the DVD Rebuilder thread rather than the BD-RB thread.]I moved it to a thread of its own.

jdobbs
12th January 2014, 14:15
I want to report back that a 3-D backup on BD-9 finished successfully without issues. Quality is quite good for the 90 minutes movie.
It is perhaps a bit irritating that the log lists the irrelevant settings for 2-D as well, like
- RESIZE 1920 to 1440 enabled
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
These have no effect though; pure cosmetics.I'll have to add code to suppress those messages. I'd made a note to do that but never got around to it.

jdobbs
12th January 2014, 14:16
These subs are still ignored by the latest version 0.46.03.
I sent you a short sample; anything special with the format? Not terribly important as I had this problem only with this particular disc so far.Sorry, I haven't worked on it yet.

jdobbs
12th January 2014, 14:17
Hi,

thanks for the last BDRB version !!!
I 've tried to make a BR3D movie only backup. i wish to do this without reencoding, but i cannot find how.
for BR2D, if final size is lower than destination, then there is no reencode. but for 3D, there is always reencoding of the video part.

Is there a way to do 3DBR without reencoding?Currently it doesn't do the "keep original" check. It's related to the code I've added for future full 3D backup. I'll have to fix that.

minhjirachi
12th January 2014, 16:15
Can I use this soft to fix bug on 3D Blu-ray Disc? Because I have a problem with pop-up menu. So that if I keep the Pop-Up menu, it can play in 3D. But if I remove the Pop-Up menu in the playlist, I can play 3D clip normally. I think it's a problem when I using tsmuxer to remux the main clip and when I re-add the old Pop-up menu in to that playlist, it does not match the ID anymore. So does your software can correct that problem?

So I want to know clearly before going to use your software.

Thank you so much.

jdobbs
12th January 2014, 18:20
Can I use this soft to fix bug on 3D Blu-ray Disc? Because I have a problem with pop-up menu. So that if I keep the Pop-Up menu, it can play in 3D. But if I remove the Pop-Up menu in the playlist, I can play 3D clip normally. I think it's a problem when I using tsmuxer to remux the main clip and when I re-add the old Pop-up menu in to that playlist, it does not match the ID anymore. So does your software can correct that problem?

So I want to know clearly before going to use your software.

Thank you so much.I'm not positive I understand what you're saying. But if it failed when adding after-the-fact with TSMUXER, it's likely going to have the same result when you do the it with BD-RB.

How are you re-adding the pop-up, with BDEDIT? 3D gets tricky because there is additional stream information kept in MPLS and CLPI extensions.

Ch3vr0n
12th January 2014, 18:48
Well i figure it' be worth mentioning here for all the ppl here that might still use vista like myself. 3D rebuild will NOT work on vista, the test build i received from Jdobbs works fine on the extraction part but FRIM errors out on the actual frameserving / encoding part. So w7 and up is mandatory.

Yordan5
12th January 2014, 20:14
Thanks for the heads up but I don't imagine many people would be on Vista as even Microsoft admitted it was one to forget.

DoctorM
12th January 2014, 21:09
Sooo... I assume that means no XP support. :-)

HWK
12th January 2014, 21:39
Sooo... I assume that means no XP support. :-)

No, need to assume. You can be assured no XP support and no it is not Jdobbs fault. Program he uses require win 7 at minimum to work.

Ch3vr0n
13th January 2014, 00:37
@hwk pretty sure he was being a bit sarcastic. Smiley at the back.

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DarWun
13th January 2014, 01:07
When doing a movie only copy of Hugo 3D to BD-9 on a Windows 8.1 system, the reencode using FRIMEnoder has failed on two attempts. On the first, it failed on the first pass at around 99%, and on the second it failed on the first pass at around 83%. The log file simply says Failed video encode.

Let me know if what I need to provide to help in the troubleshooting. In the mean time I'm going to attempt a rebuild of a different movie to see if the same thing occurs.

Limobar
13th January 2014, 01:51
Does the new 3D mode only use ABR? I started a 2-pass encode, but an ABR encode does actually start.

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 02:19
Does the new 3D mode only use ABR? I started a 2-pass encode, but an ABR encode does actually start.Yes. FRIMEncode only supports 1 pass encoding.

minhjirachi
13th January 2014, 05:48
I'm not positive I understand what you're saying. But if it failed when adding after-the-fact with TSMUXER, it's likely going to have the same result when you do the it with BD-RB.

How are you re-adding the pop-up, with BDEDIT? 3D gets tricky because there is additional stream information kept in MPLS and CLPI extensions.

Yup. You're right. I'm using BDEdit to add the Pop-Up menu. With those movies, which contain IGS Menu, I have to use Scenarist to remux in order to keep the original menu. But if I using the Scenarist, I will lost the original 3D Offset. If you gain something, you also lose something. If we have a software, which can export the OFS file to re-import into Scenarist, it's pretty good. But if your software can fix that problem, I hope I will be the first person to test it.

Thank you for your answer.

Limobar
13th January 2014, 10:38
Yes. FRIMEncode only supports 1 pass encoding.
OK and only ABR, not CRF.

I have a question about the quality of the new 3D mode. Does it make a difference in quality to use the existing (x264) quality profiles, or is there just one quality?

I assume that the tweak lines concerning encoder settings do not work in this new 3D mode. Am I right?

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 14:38
OK and only ABR, not CRF.

I have a question about the quality of the new 3D mode. Does it make a difference in quality to use the existing (x264) quality profiles, or is there just one quality?

I assume that the tweak lines concerning encoder settings do not work in this new 3D mode. Am I right?Yes. Tweaking relates specifically to X264 settings, so it wouldn't apply. As for CRF, FRIMEncode does appear to have a QP mode, but that generally creates a larger file than CRF for the same quality -- and currently there is no reasonable method for seeking, so estimating output size is out of the question.

I could add tweak settings that are specifically aimed at FRIMEncode if that's any help.

HWK
13th January 2014, 15:32
Jdobbs, not sure if you considered this but I was wondering if you process 3d disc, does you program give option to copy as 2D or will it force 3D output. If it does 3D can you add option to have final output 2D instead of 3D.

Also I think we don't need this anymore as a hidden option, what do you think.

DTSX_ENABLE=n n = 0/1 - 0=Ignore DTS Express secondary audio, 1= Enable experimental DTS Express muxing

Since you added full DTS Express Processing

- Updated code to fully support DTS Express secondary streams without the need for special processing.

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 15:48
Jdobbs, not sure if you considered this but I was wondering if you process 3d disc, does you program give option to copy as 2D or will it force 3D output. If it does 3D can you add option to have final output 2D instead of 3D.

Also I think we don't need this anymore as a hidden option, what do you think.



Since you added full DTS Express ProcessingThere is an undocumented hidden option called IGNORE_3D that can be used. It's only undocumented because I forgot... You'd just add IGNORE_3D=1 to the [Options] area of the Config/INI file.

I need to remove the DTSX_ENABLE setting and add the new one (IGNORE_3D). DTSX_ENABLE has no effect now.

Yordan5
13th January 2014, 15:51
My impression was that if you do not specifically chose 3D iso output option, BD-RB will produce a 2D BD from a 3D title. Thx for the clarification above.

HWK
13th January 2014, 15:59
Jdobbs, Can BD-RB capable of handling of secondary video processing with new version of tsmuxer.

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 16:06
Jdobbs, Can BD-RB capable of handling of secondary video processing with new version of tsmuxer.BD-RB has always been able to handle secondary video. It shouldn't have changed.

HWK
13th January 2014, 16:10
BD-RB has always been able to handle secondary video.

I am not thinking straight :D coffee time for me.

HWK
13th January 2014, 16:21
Also may I suggest to add check of frim decoder and encoder version to inspect.exe report

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 16:25
Also may I suggest to add check of frim decoder and encoder version to inspect.exe reportI'll do that.

HWK
13th January 2014, 16:49
I'll do that.

While you are at it, you may want to check the following. Basically I replace tsmuxer.exe with new version from Roman (tsMuxeR_2.6.12) and inspect said ok in my case, it shouldn't be doing that or it is expected.

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 17:05
While you are at it, you may want to check the following. Basically I replace tsmuxer.exe with new version from Roman (tsMuxeR_2.6.12) and inspect said ok in my case, it shouldn't be doing that or it is expected. Unfortunately the version number doesn't seem to be a part of the EXE file's header. So I just check for filesize. It seems, though, that each release of TSMUXER has exactly the same file size, which seems odd. I'll have to figure out another way to determine the version. I may have to do a file checksum, it's a pain, but that would at least distinguish it.

Adbear
13th January 2014, 18:32
There is an undocumented hidden option called IGNORE_3D that can be used. It's only undocumented because I forgot... You'd just add IGNORE_3D=1 to the [Options] area of the Config/INI file.

I need to remove the DTSX_ENABLE setting and add the new one (IGNORE_3D). DTSX_ENABLE has no effect now.
Would it not be possible to add the 2D/3D output as a menu option, as I often make a 2d & 3d version of my discs

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 18:39
Would it not be possible to add the 2D/3D output as a menu option, as I often make a 2d & 3d version of my discsYes, I'll do that.

HWK
13th January 2014, 19:10
How about ability to choose encoder when backing up to 2D between HC, X264 and FRIM Encoder.

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 19:36
How about ability to choose encoder when backing up to 2D between HC, X264 and FRIM Encoder.I can't imagine why anyone would want to use anything other than X264 except for MVC or DVD output. HC would result in MPEG-2 which would look poor in comparison, and X264 creates better quality at a give bitrate and is faster for AVC.

HWK
13th January 2014, 19:46
You are right, x264 is quite fast and it doesn't make sense to change default.

I was thinking if output is BD25, ability to choose encoder would be good option but like you mention there is no need for this.

Finally, I am not sure if you have considered this or not but since tsmuxer can create iso means no need for ImgBurn unless burning. Maybe for 2D part use tsmuxer and create iso as well.

DoctorM
13th January 2014, 20:23
@hwk pretty sure he was being a bit sarcastic. Smiley at the back.

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A bit of both. I knew it wouldn't work but doesn't mean I wouldn't give it a go with XP if it did support it.

HWK
13th January 2014, 20:29
Didn't want to sound harsh but Intel compiled Media SDK in such way that it doesn't work with anything below Windows 7.

On a side note Microsoft is ending support in April are you gone stay with Xp after that.

Sharc
13th January 2014, 20:51
jdobbs
This (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1661954&postcount=453)could be interesting for BD-RB.

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 21:00
jdobbs
This (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1661954&postcount=453)could be interesting for BD-RB. Cool, I'd asked laserfan3d for that -- and it should solve the DirectShowSourceMVC() need as now I can feed SBS or O/U video directly into X264.

Adbear
13th January 2014, 21:14
Yes, I'll do that.
Thank you

Sharc
13th January 2014, 21:17
.....and it should solve the DirectShowSourceMVC() need as now I can feed SBS or O/U video directly into X264.
Exactly, and get around the "magic folder" and licensing issues .... trying .....

Added:
hurray, it works!

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 21:51
Exactly, and get around the "magic folder" and licensing issues .... trying .....

Added:
hurray, it works!I love it when a plan comes together. :)

DarWun
13th January 2014, 22:24
When doing a movie only copy of Hugo 3D to BD-9 on a Windows 8.1 system, the reencode using FRIMEnoder has failed on two attempts. On the first, it failed on the first pass at around 99%, and on the second it failed on the first pass at around 83%. The log file simply says Failed video encode.


I completed a rebuild of both Dredd 3D and Hugo 3D to BD-25 without FRIMEncode failing. I'm going to go back and retry a rebuild of Hugo 3D to BD-9 this evening to see if the video encode fails like it did in my first attempt. I'll post back with my findings.

HWK
13th January 2014, 22:33
I am gone do some testing later today or tomorrow. Jdobbs any specify movie you want me to do.

Limobar
13th January 2014, 22:43
I did "Epic 3D". The encode went without errors.

The playback in both PowerDVD and TMT5 shows shacking and artifacts. It looks like there is a compatibility issue between the FRIM encoder and the decoders used by PowerDVD and TMT5.

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 22:45
I did "Epic 3D". The encode went without errors.

The playback in both PowerDVD and TMT5 shows shacking and artifacts. It looks like there is a compatibility issue between the FRIM encoder and the decoders used by PowerDVD and TMT5.I've tested on PowerDVD 11 and I'm not seeing any issues.

Have you tried playback on a standalone device? That the definitive test.

jdobbs
13th January 2014, 22:46
Exactly, and get around the "magic folder" and licensing issues .... trying .....

Added:
hurray, it works!Here's a working command line for half-SBS encoding using X264:

FRIMDecode.exe -i::mvc 00000.track_4113.264 00000.track_4114.mvc -sbs -o - | x264.exe - --demuxer raw --input-res 3840x1080 --fps 23.976 --crf 18 --video-filter resize:width=1920,height=1080,sar=1:1,method=bilinear --output out3d.264

Of course you could replace the CRF with a "--bitrate" option, and you could do two passes in two consecutive command lines. You could also use "bicubic", "spline", or "lanczos" for the resizing method.

Limobar
13th January 2014, 22:55
I've tested on PowerDVD 11 and I'm not seeing any issues.

Have you tried playback on a standalone device? That the definitive test.

I cannot test that, because my Blu-Ray player does not play 3D.

This is the first time I see this happening. Other 3D encodes, retail Blu-Rays, DVDFab re-encodes and 3DT re-encodes, play fine using PowerDVD and TMT5?

Did you mean that you also tried "Epic 3D"?

jdobbs
14th January 2014, 00:14
I am gone do some testing later today or tomorrow. Jdobbs any specify movie you want me to do.Not really. Just let me know if you find any issues.

Sharc
14th January 2014, 00:30
Here's a working command line for half-SBS encoding using X264:

FRIMDecode.exe -i::mvc 00000.track_4113.264 00000.track_4114.mvc -sbs -o - | x264.exe - --demuxer raw --input-res 3840x1080 --fps 23.976 --crf 18 --video-filter resize:width=1920,height=1080,sar=1:1,method=bilinear --output out3d.264

Of course you could replace the CRF with a "--bitrate" option, and you could do two passes in two consecutive command lines. You could also use "bicubic", "spline", or "lanczos" for the resizing method.

Or if one prefers OU instead of SBS:
FRIMDecode.exe -i::mvc 00098.track_4113.264 00098.track_4114.mvc -tab -o - | x264.exe - --demuxer raw --sar 1:1 --crf 18 --input-res 1920x2160 --sar 1:1 --video-filter resize:width=1920,height=1080,sar=1:1,method=bilinear --fps 23.976 --output "C:\temp\FRIMtox264-OU.h264"

HWK
14th January 2014, 00:57
Not really. Just let me know if you find any issues.

Ok, commencing test sequence. I will start with avatar and see how it comes out.

Sharc
14th January 2014, 01:04
Ok, commencing test sequence. While at it I was wondering would this be good time to get rid of ffdshow and use frimdecode to decode avc, mvc, mpeg2 and vc-1 stream or do you plan to phase out in stages if at all.
See jdobb's footnote here (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1661571&postcount=18755)

HWK
14th January 2014, 01:13
Thanks, after close examination I realized as long as we have Vc-1 ffdshow is going nowhere, unless jdobbs is also working on developing decoder for all supported formats.

jdobbs
14th January 2014, 01:59
Thanks, after close examination I realized as long as we have Vc-1 ffdshow is going nowhere, unless jdobbs is also working on developing decoder for all supported formats.I've found that the newest version of X264 includes LAVF filters that handle every format very well. The only thing holding it back in the past was it's VC-1 interlaced limitations, and those seem to have gone away.

One other limitation of feeding X264 directly is that, even though you can resize internally, there aren't any common releases that include the ability to pad -- so some of BD-RB's features (like resizing 4:3 into a 16:9 window) might still need AVISYNTH. I'm looking for a workaround. There are patches that filter, so I guess I could always start creating my own builds. I just hate to do that.

HWK
14th January 2014, 02:25
I've found that the newest version of X264 includes LAVF filters that handle every format very well. The only thing holding it back in the past was it's VC-1 interlaced limitations, and those seem to have gone away.

One other limitation of feeding X264 directly is that, even though you can resize internally, there aren't any common releases that include the ability to pad -- so some of BD-RB's features (like resizing 4:3 into a 16:9 window) might still need AVISYNTH. I'm looking for a workaround. There are patches that filter, so I guess I could always start creating my own builds. I just hate to do that.

Jdobbs, I was reading somewhere that x264 LAVF can decode and serve frame to other encoders like HC. If so you can create two instance of x264 one for decode and another one for encode and use avisynth between them to process.

HWK
14th January 2014, 02:37
Not really. Just let me know if you find any issues.

Ok, commencing test sequence. I will start with avatar and see how it comes out.

Jdobbs, Couple of things I noticed during encode

1. Max bitrate allowed is up to 60000, you have set 35000 isn't that low for both views combined.

2. Tsmuxer is extracting all subtitle from disc, even though option of having one was selected in BD-RB.

3. What does MKV have to do with this according VID_00001 file

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.03 (beta)
DirectshowSource("E:\BD_OUT\WORKFILES\00001.track_4113.mkv", fps=23.976, framecount=232608, ConvertFPS=true, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

DarWun
14th January 2014, 02:58
I have a question about the quality of the new 3D mode. Does it make a difference in quality to use the existing (x264) quality profiles, or is there just one quality?

Yes. Tweaking relates specifically to X264 settings, so it wouldn't apply.

I just want to make sure I'm not missing something. Are you saying that for a 3D rebuild using FRIMEncode, the encoder quality settings Good, Better, etc. don't matter? If this is the case then I am a bit confused as to why a 3D rebuild with the encoder quality set at Highest took 7hours, and one done with automatic settings took 3.5hours.

HWK
14th January 2014, 03:03
I just want to make sure I'm not missing something. Are you saying that for a 3D rebuild using FRIMEncode, the encoder quality settings Good, Better, etc. don't matter? If this is the case then I am a bit confused as to why a 3D rebuild with the encoder quality set at Highest took 7hours, and one done with automatic settings took 3.5hours.

No, it is tweak related to x264 which has no effect, an example can be given of tune film value which is specific to x264 encoder in this case. Quality wise it will make difference since program change internal value of encoder to balance between speed and quality. For example I am using Ultra High Quality in BD-RB and for that preset in frimencode is given value of (2)

Frim quality scale goes from 1-7, 1 highest quality and 7 optimized for speed and 4 is balanced. As a result when you change quality setting BD-RB automatically set scale in encoder to predetermined value.

DarWun
14th January 2014, 03:26
Thanks for the clarification HWK.

jdobbs
14th January 2014, 06:28
Jdobbs, Couple of things I noticed during encode

1. Max bitrate allowed is up to 60000, you have set 35000 isn't that low for both views combined.

2. Tsmuxer is extracting all subtitle from disc, even though option of having one was selected in BD-RB.

3. What does MKV have to do with this according VID_00001 file

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.03 (beta)
DirectshowSource("E:\BD_OUT\WORKFILES\00001.track_4113.mkv", fps=23.976, framecount=232608, ConvertFPS=true, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)It was probably VC-1 interlaced or pulldown. DirectshowSource() can't read it properly from an M2TS (actually I think the issue is HAALI) so it has to be remuxed into an MKV first. There are a lot of things BD-RB has to do as workarounds for limitations in the tools.

Limobar
14th January 2014, 10:57
I did "Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2" and got the exact same artifacts I got with "Epic", using PowerDVD 12. It's the 3D part that has the artifacts. The 2D part is clean.

http://i39.tinypic.com/k31un6.jpg

Acerjen
14th January 2014, 15:36
- Updated code to fully support DTS Express
secondary streams without the need for
special processing.

Does this mean that DTS Express audio tracks should work or is this something entirely different? All of the titles I have come across that have DTS Express audio, use it for the PIP video. I ran a few titles through the newest version and the DTS Express track is not working. Basically, its the same as its been since DTS Express support was put in experimentally a while back. PIP video works great but the audio isn't there. I checked the M2TS file with tsMuxer and the DTS Express track is there but is not playing. Before I posted anything specific, I wanted to ask if maybe I am misunderstanding what the above statement is saying. Thank you for your time and a great program. Later.

Acerjen

jdobbs
14th January 2014, 16:40
Does this mean that DTS Express audio tracks should work or is this something entirely different? All of the titles I have come across that have DTS Express audio, use it for the PIP video. I ran a few titles through the newest version and the DTS Express track is not working. Basically, its the same as its been since DTS Express support was put in experimentally a while back. PIP video works great but the audio isn't there. I checked the M2TS file with tsMuxer and the DTS Express track is there but is not playing. Before I posted anything specific, I wanted to ask if maybe I am misunderstanding what the above statement is saying. Thank you for your time and a great program. Later.

AcerjenIt should definitely work. It's working on all my players.

HWK
14th January 2014, 17:10
It was probably VC-1 interlaced or pulldown. DirectshowSource() can't read it properly from an M2TS (actually I think the issue is HAALI) so it has to be remuxed into an MKV first. There are a lot of things BD-RB has to do as workarounds for limitations in the tools.

Avatar 3D main movie is not interlaced and vc-1. So I am not quite sure about this response being correct. FrimDecode is decoding this movie so I bit confused at this stage.

jdobbs
14th January 2014, 17:31
Avatar 3D main movie is not interlaced and vc-1. So I am not quite sure about this response being correct. FrimDecode is decoding this movie so I bit confused at this stage.If FRIM is being used, then that AVS file is doing nothing anyway. But I still don't see how it could be pointing to an MKV -- I'll go back and look.

HWK
14th January 2014, 18:45
Jdobbs, Can you also check why BD-RB is extracting all subtitle stream (6) in case of avatar. Even though I want English only in final output. This one doesn't include one with 80mb + size.

HWK
14th January 2014, 18:56
I did "Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2" and got the exact same artifacts I got with "Epic", using PowerDVD 12. It's the 3D part that has the artifacts. The 2D part is clean.

http://i39.tinypic.com/k31un6.jpg

Can you provide more info about GPU and system?

DarWun
14th January 2014, 18:58
I completed a rebuild of both Dredd 3D and Hugo 3D to BD-25 without FRIMEncode failing. I'm going to go back and retry a rebuild of Hugo 3D to BD-9 this evening to see if the video encode fails like it did in my first attempt. I'll post back with my findings.

Another update. After having success with a rebuild of Hugo 3D to BD-25, I retried a rebuild to BD-9. The video encode failed on three separate attempts. This may not have anything to do with the failures, but BD-Rebuilder Priority was set on idle and I was doing other CPU/GPU intensive things on the PC while the rebuild was happening (i.e. playing Civilization 5). The reason I mention this is that when I ran two BD-9 rebuilds of the same movie with different quality settings in batch mode overnight, they both completed successfully. I usually run rebuilds in the background while doing other things on the PC without an issue.

HWK
14th January 2014, 19:02
Hmm, interesting find. So it seems OS is having difficulty locating CPU time to applications or it would seem so with game. What is even more interesting is I am gamer as well and never came across such a thing.

jdobbs
14th January 2014, 19:16
Another update. After having success with a rebuild of Hugo 3D to BD-25, I retried a rebuild to BD-9. The video encode failed on three separate attempts. This may not have anything to do with the failures, but BD-Rebuilder Priority was set on idle and I was doing other CPU/GPU intensive things on the PC while the rebuild was happening (i.e. playing Civilization 5). The reason I mention this is that when I ran two BD-9 rebuilds of the same movie with different quality settings in batch mode overnight, they both completed successfully. I usually run rebuilds in the background while doing other things on the PC without an issue.Can you post your settings? I'm interested what you are using for frame serving.

I also noticed that your log post doesn't include the output showing whether you settings are correct. That makes me wonder why you decided to remove that part. Can you run INSPECT and post the results?

[Note] Actually I forgot this was a 3D encode... so obviously you're using FRIMDecode for frame serving. I may have to do some testing and see if FRIMDecode is vulnerable/affected by CPU usage.

DarWun
14th January 2014, 19:55
Can you post your settings? I'm interested what you are using for frame serving.

I also noticed that your log post doesn't include the output showing whether you settings are correct. That makes me wonder why you decided to remove that part. Can you run INSPECT and post the results?

Weird. I didn't edit the log files at all (other than to change the extensions so that I could attach them to my post). I'm not sure why the Inspect information isn't there. I'll run inspect when I get home tonight and post the results.

I may be wrong about this, but my recollection is that when doing a normal 2D rebuild in the past using DGDecNV, not all my CPU's cores were used. I'm pretty sure all six cores were running at 100% when doing the 3D rebuild. I'll check that tonight as well to make sure that is actually the case.

Edited to add: I looked back through the forum to see where the inspect information is supposed to be showing up in the log file. In the posts I found with logs for failed rebuilds, it looks like the inspect information is supposed to be tacked on after the encode fails. None of my failed encode log files I looked at last night had that information in them. The last line in all the logs was the same as it was in the log I attached to my original post: "Failed video encode, aborted".

Limobar
15th January 2014, 02:32
[screenshot that shows artifacts]

Can you provide more info about GPU and system?

i7 920@3.8Ghz
nVidia GTX 460
6 GB RAM
Windows 7 (64 bit)

Your request for more info got me thinking. I disabled hardware acceleration in TMT5 and then the artifacts are gone. I tried it also with PowerDVD 12, but that software appears to disallow disabling of hardware acceleration.

Blu-Ray players use hardware acceleration. Does that mean that FRIM encodes do not get decoded correctly?

I cannot test it myself, because I don't have a 3D compatible Blu-Ray player. I created a sample (130 MB). Please, try it and report back.

Here's the sample: https://www.hightail.com/download/elNLQmtjcklrUm52WnRVag

DarWun
15th January 2014, 02:35
I ran across another potential bug when trying to do multiple rebuilds using FRIMEncode with different quality settings in batch mode. The attached BDBATCH file shows that the encode quality settings for the two tasks were set at 0 (good) and 3 (high). The attached BATCHITEM file shows that the second high quality encode task was completed using an encode quality of 0 instead of 3. This is the first time I've tried batch mode using different quality settings. So I'm not sure if this is something new to this version of BD-Rebuilder or something that has carried over from a previous version.

HWK
15th January 2014, 02:56
i7 920@3.8Ghz
nVidia GTX 460
6 GB RAM
Windows 7 (64 bit)

Blu-Ray players use hardware acceleration. Does that mean that FRIM encodes do not get decoded correctly?



No, if it was the case encoder will crash on garbage input. Sound more like video card issue since GPU acceleration off result in good and clean playback.

Anyways I will try on software and hardware and see what is happening.

Limobar
15th January 2014, 02:59
...Sound more like video card issue since GPU acceleration off result in good and clean playback.

I highly doubt that. It's only with FRIM encodes that the artifacts show.

HWK
15th January 2014, 03:03
I highly doubt that. It's only with FRIM encodes that the artifacts show.

Hmm, Can you share more info about movie and setting you were using. If I have the movie I can test and see what is happening with this .

I will also try to run with another MVC encoder and see if there is something I can come up with regards to encoder or its setting.

DarWun
15th January 2014, 03:05
Weird. I didn't edit the log files at all (other than to change the extensions so that I could attach them to my post). I'm not sure why the Inspect information isn't there. I'll run inspect when I get home tonight and post the results.

Here are the results from INSPECT:

- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4504], Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.46.0.3, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Here are the contents of the settings file from the BD-Rebuilder installation directory:

[Options]
VERSION=0.46.0.3
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
DTSX_ENABLE=1
MULTIPROCESS=1
DISABLE_VIDEO_SLEEP=1
FULL_3D=1
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
STATUS_LOG=1
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=1
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=50000
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=D:\TEMP\
DGIndexNV=D:\Program Files (x86)\DGDecNV\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=D:\Program Files (x86)\DGDecNV\DGDecodeNV.dll
DirectShowMVCSource=D:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\stereoplayer.exe\DirectShowMVCSource.dll
SupTitlePath=D:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\SupTitle\SupTitle.dll
SOURCE_PATH=I:\

Limobar
15th January 2014, 03:12
Hmm, Can you share more info about movie and setting you were using. If I have the movie I can test and see what is happening with this .

I will also try to run with another MVC encoder and see if there is something I can come up with regards to encoder or its setting.

The movie is: "Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2". I used the "Highest Quality" setting. The Movie "Epic" gives the same artifacts with hardware acceleration.


Log:
----------------------
[01/14/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[10:59:08] Source: CLOUDY_2_00001
- Input BD size: 29.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:50.684]
- Target BD size: 23.68 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[10:59:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:59:08] Processing: VID_00344 (1 of 3)
- [10:59:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00344]
- [11:05:20] Reencoding video [VID_00344]
- [11:05:20] Reencoding: VID_00344, Pass 1 of 1
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:11:11] Processing: VID_00345 (2 of 3)
- [12:11:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00345]
- [12:11:16] Reencoding video [VID_00345]
- [12:11:16] Reencoding: VID_00345, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:13:42] Processing: VID_00346 (3 of 3)
- [12:13:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00346]
- [12:22:06] Reencoding video [VID_00346]
- [12:22:06] Reencoding: VID_00346, Pass 1 of 1
[23:35:05]PHASE ONE complete
[23:35:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:35:05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:46:12] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23:46:12] JOB: CLOUDY_2 finished.

Setup info:

[Status]
LABEL=CLOUDY_2
VERSION=v0.46.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=32143816704
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=32143816704
TARGET_SIZE=25427968000
REDUCTION=.791068721992673
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=3
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00344]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=1111111
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2080530686
RATE=30866
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00345]
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=74387293
RATE=28312
AUDIO=1111
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00346]
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=23273050021
RATE=30089
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

DarWun
15th January 2014, 03:26
Hmm, interesting find. So it seems OS is having difficulty locating CPU time to applications or it would seem so with game. What is even more interesting is I am gamer as well and never came across such a thing.

It's new to me as well. If I can find some time I'm going to play around a bit more tonight to see if I can reproduce the occurrence. I should point out that of the three rebuild failures that occurred last night, only two of them occurred while I was gaming. The third occurred while I was backing up my NAS to an external hard drive. I don't recall that being very CPU intensive. But then again don't usually pay much attention to CPU performance while completing backups (unless I'm bored ;-) ).

HWK
15th January 2014, 03:38
The movie is: "Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2". I used the "Highest Quality" setting. The Movie "Epic" gives the same artifacts with hardware acceleration.


Log:
----------------------
[01/14/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[10:59:08] Source: CLOUDY_2_00001
- Input BD size: 29.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:50.684]
- Target BD size: 23.68 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[10:59:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:59:08] Processing: VID_00344 (1 of 3)
- [10:59:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00344]
- [11:05:20] Reencoding video [VID_00344]
- [11:05:20] Reencoding: VID_00344, Pass 1 of 1
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:11:11] Processing: VID_00345 (2 of 3)
- [12:11:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00345]
- [12:11:16] Reencoding video [VID_00345]
- [12:11:16] Reencoding: VID_00345, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:13:42] Processing: VID_00346 (3 of 3)
- [12:13:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00346]
- [12:22:06] Reencoding video [VID_00346]
- [12:22:06] Reencoding: VID_00346, Pass 1 of 1
[23:35:05]PHASE ONE complete
[23:35:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:35:05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:46:12] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23:46:12] JOB: CLOUDY_2 finished.

Setup info:

[Status]
LABEL=CLOUDY_2
VERSION=v0.46.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=32143816704
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=32143816704
TARGET_SIZE=25427968000
REDUCTION=.791068721992673
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=3
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00344]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=1111111
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2080530686
RATE=30866
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00345]
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=74387293
RATE=28312
AUDIO=1111
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00346]
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=23273050021
RATE=30089
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Thank you, I will add to do list and will also check out your sample.

HWK
15th January 2014, 03:39
It's new to me as well. If I can find some time I'm going to play around a bit more tonight to see if I can reproduce the occurrence. I should point out that of the three rebuild failures that occurred last night, only two of them occurred while I was gaming. The third occurred while I was backing up my NAS to an external hard drive. I don't recall that being very CPU intensive. But then again don't usually pay much attention to CPU performance while completing backups (unless I'm bored ;-) ).

Are you doing compression or similar before sending to NAS which may cause cpu to be high side.

HWK
15th January 2014, 04:13
@ Limobar

I just downloaded your sample and I am experience the same thing when playing with TMT 5. Acceleration on causing artifact in video and with off video is doing zigzag(not in focus) seem to be related to tsmuxer(I had with other situation as well)

Limobar
15th January 2014, 04:16
...video is doing zigzag(not in focus) seem to be related to tsmuxer(I had with other situation as well)

Left and right mixed up, probably.

HWK
15th January 2014, 04:19
Left and right mixed up, probably.

Not quite, even static background is moving. Best I can describe is going between point a and b which are very close and it is doing rapidly.

Hardware acceleration does not cause this problem.

DarWun
15th January 2014, 05:31
Are you doing compression or similar before sending to NAS which may cause cpu to be high side.

No compression.

HWK
15th January 2014, 05:34
@ Limobar

I finish analyzing sample you have provided and I can confirm FRIMEncode is at fault over here. I ran five different test to make sure it is not random occurrence and for all test FRIMDecode was used. Part of test was to use pipe between two processes, create yuv files and check number of frames are equal in both view.

I can upload sample which I fixed with another encoder so you can test as well, for my test TMT 5 with hardware acceleration turned on.

System Info
Intel core i7 3930K
nVidia GTX 580
32GB Ram
Windows 7 (64 bit)

I am also gone test with different version of FRIMEncode to see if I find one where problem does not occur.

I forgot to add all test were done outside of BD-RB environment with FRIM tools.

DarWun
15th January 2014, 05:45
[Note] Actually I forgot this was a 3D encode... so obviously you're using FRIMDecode for frame serving. I may have to do some testing and see if FRIMDecode is vulnerable/affected by CPU usage.

I had two rebuilds running through the day while I was at work to evaluate the impact of the encoder quality settings. They both completed fine. I started a rebuild when I got home from work. It ran unattended for about 30minutes. Ten minutes after I loaded Civilization 5, the video encode failed. I can now confirm without any doubt that the log file does not summarize inspect results after the failure.

HWK
15th January 2014, 05:59
Do you have other game which you can use and test to see if this happens again. A game which is not much demanding would be best candidate.

DarWun
15th January 2014, 08:46
Do you have other game which you can use and test to see if this happens again. A game which is not much demanding would be best candidate.

I do. I'm heading out of town for a few days so I won't be able to get back to it until the weekend though.

jdobbs
15th January 2014, 14:50
I highly doubt that. It's only with FRIM encodes that the artifacts show. This doesn't make sense. If the issue was in the encode it would always be there. How could it correct itself when you change playback settings? It has to be a result of the playback device.

HWK
15th January 2014, 16:34
This doesn't make sense. If the issue was in the encode it would always be there. How could it correct itself when you change playback settings? It has to be a result of the playback device.

Jdobbs, I decided to do cloudy with chance of meat ball 2 as well and with frimencode and I can repeat this each time I encode; but like you mention how it can change with playback is still mystery.

I am gone play on hardware player and see what is happening, when I played on software player my result is identical limobar.

jdobbs
15th January 2014, 16:43
Jdobbs, I decided to do cloudy with chance of meat ball 2 as well and with frimencode and I can repeat this each time I encode; but like you mention how it can change with playback is still mystery.

I am gone play on hardware player and see what is happening, when I played on software player my result is identical limobar.Like I said, though, if the problem is in the encode it would have to always be there. That, to me, says it is absolutely a problem in the playback mechanism.

This is why I hesitate to accept bug reports from software players -- you never know whether the issue is in the player (and it usually is).

HWK
15th January 2014, 16:53
True, hardware player would be big help. I am gone run some test and hopefully have meaningful report.

Just quick question can you test sample as well. It is only 29 second and it would add weight to report.

jdobbs
15th January 2014, 16:58
True, hardware player would be big help. I am gone run some test and hopefully have meaningful report.

Just quick question can you test sample as well. It is only 29 second and it would add weight to report.I'll pick up "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2" at some point and run a backup.

HWK
15th January 2014, 17:07
I'll pick up "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2" at some point and run a backup.

I will do the same, in fact I already ordered it and hopefully I will have it soon.

jdobbs
15th January 2014, 17:24
It looks like it isn't going to be released in 3D here until January 28th.

J666RST
15th January 2014, 17:26
Hi jdobbs, HWK & Limobar, played the iso sample on my Panasonic DMP-BDT210 3D player and sample played fine in 3D

Hope that helps

Lee

HWK
15th January 2014, 17:42
Thank you, marvelous to hear such a news. I am doing backup as well and will also test for sure (extra test doesn't hurt)

AmigaFuture
16th January 2014, 00:06
No, need to assume. You can be assured no XP support and no it is not Jdobbs fault. Program he uses require win 7 at minimum to work.

I'm glad WinDoze 8 isn't required. I'm staying with XP, Doze 7 and Mac OS X Mavericks. I do not like the functionality/bland look of 8 at all.

I'm loving the DTS Express support. Thus far, Karate Kid is doing well with PowerDVD 12 and LG Player. I have some others to try soon. Yay!

Limobar
16th January 2014, 00:35
This doesn't make sense. If the issue was in the encode it would always be there. How could it correct itself when you change playback settings? It has to be a result of the playback device.

The explanation is not so hard to imagine. There is a difference in encoder settings used that the hardware accelerated- and the software decoders within TMT 5 allow.

That it's the hardware accelerated decoding that gives artifacts and not the software decoding, is odd. I would think that HW decoding has strict rules and that software decoding can be more forgiving when it comes to used encoder settings.

Knowing that HW decoding goes wrong, there's no reason to exclude the FRIM encoder as the reason for the artifacts, at this point.

jdobbs
16th January 2014, 01:11
The explanation is not so hard to imagine. There is a difference in encoder settings used that the hardware accelerated- and the software decoders within TMT 5 allow.

That it's the hardware accelerated decoding that gives artifacts and not the software decoding, is odd. I would think that HW decoding has strict rules and that software decoding can be more forgiving when it comes to used encoder settings.

Knowing that HW decoding goes wrong, there's no reason to exclude the FRIM encoder as the reason for the artifacts, at this point.I disagree completely. The encoded stream is the encoded stream. It isn't variable, or changing. If it can be decoded correctly -- then the stream is fine. The only variable is the player. In other words, since the blocks you see aren't in the encoded stream (obviously because they aren't always there) -- they have to be created by the decoder.

I've seen hardware acceleration cause problems in all kinds of scenarios. That's why it's an option that can be disabled. This scenario is no different.

I have no vested interest in whether FRIMEncode works or doesn't work -- I'm just using logic here, and everything points to the decoder.

Limobar
16th January 2014, 01:24
You can disagree with me, but what I'm saying is logical.

You can create an encode that gets decoded fine by more forgiving decoders, but if that encode doesn't meet the required standard it is supposed to meet, the encode is still to blame and not the decoder that only allows that required standard.

jdobbs
16th January 2014, 01:28
You can disagree with me, but what I'm saying is logical.

The bottom line is that the ONLY good test is using a standalone player, and having done a large number of 3D discs with FRIMEncoder I have not encountered a single one that has playback issues (on two different brands of players).

While anything is possible in a quantum world, the probabilities point heavily toward the decoder.

HWK
16th January 2014, 01:31
The bottom line is that the ONLY good test is using a standalone player, and having done a large number of 3D discs with FRIMEncoder I have not encountered a single one that has playback issues (on two different players).

I finish test and OPPO player provide exceptional playback of video and 3D experience, Ps3 also play without any issue. Although subtitle depth is lost when BD-RB mux assets after encode. Another thing I notice is on TMT5 frequency of problem occurring has gone down significantly.

FRIM Version 1.20

jdobbs
16th January 2014, 01:34
I finish test and OPPO player provide exceptional playback of video and 3D experience, Ps3 also play without any issue. Although subtitle depth is lost when BD-RB mux assets after encode.Same with my Samsung and Sony players.

I'll check on the subtitle depth issue.

HWK
16th January 2014, 01:40
Same with my Samsung and Sony players.

I'll check on the subtitle depth issue.

I am quite happy with compression of FRIM, I am gone do movie with longest run time I have and see how it goes.

jdobbs
16th January 2014, 01:55
I am quite happy with compression of FRIM, I am gone do movie with longest run time I have and see how it goes. I ran a group of PSNR tests with 2D encodes from FRIM and X264 at different settings. X264 did better overall, but it really wasn't as great a difference as I would have thought, and I think it was mainly due to it's two pass ability. I may do another comparison using ABR on both.

HWK
16th January 2014, 02:02
You really can't compare them even with ABR, unless disable advance options such as lookahead and MB Tree etc.

HWK
16th January 2014, 02:08
Jdobbs, I notice something interesting I was extracting main movie from cloudy with chance of meat balls 2 and I used mpls, but when I finish tsmuxer only extracted mvc stream from first segment which is 7 min 34 sec.

I am wondering if it has to do something with faulty playback of 3D in software when mux is done.

I am gone send this info to Roman as well.

HWK
16th January 2014, 02:15
I'll check on the subtitle depth issue.

Are you experiencing this problem with every movie?

jdobbs
16th January 2014, 06:11
Are you experiencing this problem with every movie?Honestly I haven't given enough thought or attention to the subtitles.

AmigaFuture
16th January 2014, 07:10
While anything is possible in a quantum world, the probabilities point heavily toward the decoder.

Which is why quantum mechanics and physics is a rediscovery of the massive Law of Attraction. Ah, the Teenage years of Science we're in...

Anyway... After editing a TiVo file and exporting to MPG... I'm not able to reproduce a Progressive file with BD-RB as HandBrake does. If I drag an MPG file to HandBrake and select the Filters tab then select "Detelecine: Default" which is usually "Off", and change Video Framerate to 23.976 and switch from Peekframe Rate to Constant Framerate. The desired Progressive MKV is obtained.

I have the following in BD-RB.
SD_PROGRESSIVE=1
IVTC_TELECIDE=0
IVTC_SELECTION=1
IVTC_480i=0

IVTS for 3:2 pulldown is disabled.

I've tried different combinations with BD-RB. It's not producing the same effect HangBrake is. Is this a bug? Seems like like BD-RB (or I) am missing something. If I use Media Player Classic - Home Cinema to "step" through the frames once passed I'm able to see repeated frames after using BD-RB (44.03).

Wanting 1080i to 1280x720. Anyone have any ideas I may entertain?

Sharc
16th January 2014, 09:05
I ran a group of PSNR tests with 2D encodes from FRIM and X264 at different settings. X264 did better overall, but it really wasn't as great a difference as I would have thought, and I think it was mainly due to it's two pass ability. I may do another comparison using ABR on both.
Hmmm..., I would have to disagree at some point.
x264 is really stronger at low bitrates IMHO, like those you get for BD5/9.
In flat scenes with flat backgrounds the Intel Encoder tends to produce visible blocks and gop pulsing. Similar can happen at scene transitions. Such occasional transient effects may barely deteriorate the PSNR values, they are however clearly visible even by "uneducated" viewers at normal viewing distance (and unfortunately one tends to remember these occasional "ooops".... )
In motion and panning scenes details get suppressed (blurred), but this is less of a problem because it is usually not noticeable when watching the movie.
I trust it may be different at BD25+ bitrates, but I didn't try as I still do all my backups on BD5/9.
Not a big issue, it is really great to finally have a free and good quality MVC suite with FRIM/Intel, even though there seems to be some room for improvement.

jdobbs
16th January 2014, 14:42
Hmmm..., I would have to disagree at some point.
x264 is really stronger at low bitrates IMHO, like those you get for BD5/9.
In flat scenes with flat backgrounds the Intel Encoder tends to produce visible blocks and gop pulsing. Similar can happen at scene transitions. Such occasional transient effects may barely deteriorate the PSNR values, they are however clearly visible even by "uneducated" viewers at normal viewing distance (and unfortunately one tends to remember these occasional "ooops".... )
In motion and panning scenes details get suppressed (blurred), but this is less of a problem because it is usually not noticeable when watching the movie.
I trust it may be different at BD25+ bitrates, but I didn't try as I still do all my backups on BD5/9.
Not a big issue, it is really great to finally have a free and good quality MVC suite with FRIM/Intel, even though there seems to be some room for improvement. You're right. I was testing at a given bitrate (generally aimed at BD-25) and didn't do anything exhaustive. It's very likely that X264 would do considerably better at lower bitrates. I don't want to give the wrong impression. I still believe X264 is the best h.264 encoder around. But no matter how much we like it -- it still doesn't do MVC.

Acerjen
16th January 2014, 20:10
It should definitely work. It's working on all my players.

Thanks for your response. One of the movies I am having trouble with is Battle: Los Angeles. Everything works except the DTS Express track. When I choose the bonus material that uses it, the movie begins playing and occasionally a PiP video will pop up. The PiP video plays fine, but the audio that plays is the main DTS-HD track. I used tsMuxer and verified that the DTS Express track is there, but it is not playing. I believe I have provided everything below that is usually requested when reporting a problem. The text in these files would have spanned across 3-4 posts. So, I decided to attach them instead. If anything else is needed, please ask. Thanks for your help. Later.

Acerjen

Yordan5
16th January 2014, 21:22
Could someone confirm if using the Quality settings would make any difference at all to the final movie (3D iso) even though when using the Best setting it takes much longer to process the iso.

jdobbs
16th January 2014, 21:42
Could someone confirm if using the Quality settings would make any difference at all to the final movie (3D iso) even though when using the Best setting it takes much longer to process the iso.The BD-RB quality setting is applied to FRIMEncode. In my PSNR tests I can confirm that the higher quality settings resulted in better PSNR results than lower settings. So the answer should be "yes", using a higher quality setting would make a difference -- remember, though, that different sources may have different degrees of results.

colinhunt
17th January 2014, 16:13
Running my first test with the new BD-RB, doing a movie-only 3D backup. I'm a bit puzzled as to why BD-RB began re-encoding the movie, because the ISO image is 24.3GB and the movie itself is only 22936MB (including two 5.1 channel DTS-HD MA tracks, one of which is disabled, saving approx. 1GB). I expected a quick 1:1 copy instead of a re-encode as I'm using a Custom output size of 24350MB.

jdobbs
17th January 2014, 18:31
Running my first test with the new BD-RB, doing a movie-only 3D backup. I'm a bit puzzled as to why BD-RB began re-encoding the movie, because the ISO image is 24.3GB and the movie itself is only 22936MB (including two 5.1 channel DTS-HD MA tracks, one of which is disabled, saving approx. 1GB). I expected a quick 1:1 copy instead of a re-encode as I'm using a Custom output size of 24350MB. Currently BD-RB always reencodes for 3D. I'm working on "keep original" for 3D for the next release.

colinhunt
17th January 2014, 19:52
Currently BD-RB always reencodes for 3D. I'm working on "keep original" for 3D for the next release.
Ah, well that explains it perfectly :)

colinhunt
18th January 2014, 10:51
First movie-only 3D backup result: image is extremely corrupted.

Log:

[01.18.14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[20:08:32] Source: OUT_OF_INFERNO_3D_00001
- Input BD size: 27,36 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:47:19.516]
- Target BD size: 23,68 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Ultra High Quality (Extremely Slow), ABR
- Output folder: T:\_ENCODES\
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Subtitle [3] is defaulted ON.
[20:08:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:08:35] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [20:08:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20:24:43] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 154*394 frames
- Bitrate: 26*950 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC reencoding
- [20:24:43] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:53:07] Video Encode complete
- [06:53:07] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (zho): Keeping original audio
[06:53:07]PHASE ONE complete
[06:53:07]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:53:07] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[06:57:31] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[06:57:31] JOB: OUT_OF_INFERNO_3D finished.


Similar image corruption took place several times when I was testing the command line versions of FRIMdecoder/encoder/transcode. It happened when decoding was done in hardware instead of software. I ran this backup job on a Core i7-3930K which supports HW acceleration for both decode and encode.

jdobbs
18th January 2014, 14:40
First movie-only 3D backup result: image is extremely corrupted.

Log:

[01.18.14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[20:08:32] Source: OUT_OF_INFERNO_3D_00001
- Input BD size: 27,36 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:47:19.516]
- Target BD size: 23,68 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Ultra High Quality (Extremely Slow), ABR
- Output folder: T:\_ENCODES\
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Subtitle [3] is defaulted ON.
[20:08:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:08:35] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [20:08:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20:24:43] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 154*394 frames
- Bitrate: 26*950 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC reencoding
- [20:24:43] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:53:07] Video Encode complete
- [06:53:07] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (zho): Keeping original audio
[06:53:07]PHASE ONE complete
[06:53:07]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:53:07] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[06:57:31] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[06:57:31] JOB: OUT_OF_INFERNO_3D finished.


Similar image corruption took place several times when I was testing the command line versions of FRIMdecoder/encoder/transcode. It happened when decoding was done in hardware instead of software. I ran this backup job on a Core i7-3930K which supports HW acceleration for both decode and encode.By default hw/sw is auto detected. I'll force sw on the next release.

colinhunt
18th January 2014, 14:44
By default hw/sw is auto detected. I'll force sw on the next release.
Could you instead make two toggles or hidden options, one each for decoding and encoding? HW encoding works fine on my system, it's the HW decoding that causes issues.

jdobbs
18th January 2014, 15:17
Could you instead make two toggles or hidden options, one each for decoding and encoding? HW encoding works fine on my system, it's the HW decoding that causes issues.Understood

HWK
18th January 2014, 19:23
I ran this backup job on a Core i7-3930K which supports HW acceleration for both decode and encode.

Strange, I have same processor but mine never in hardware acceleration. No I didn't use -sw option. Perhaps it has to do with motherboard one is using.

[update]

It is indeed related to motherboard and one I am using does not have GPU built in which also explain why I can't turn it on.

jdobbs
18th January 2014, 19:35
Strange, I have same processor but mine never in hardware acceleration. No I didn't use -sw option. Perhaps it has to do with motherboard one is using.Mine are all AMD processors, so I guess I never have to worry about it. I've added a couple of hidden options to force SW decoding/encoding for the next release.

slvrsrfr
19th January 2014, 02:03
Imported The Simpsons Season 3 from 4 DVDs to BD. The sound lags behind the video on all 24 episodes. The lag discrepancy grows longer as the further the episode is...here's the log and my settings. Plz. let me know if you want any other info:
==========================
[12:54:00] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[12:54:00] BEGIN - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
-----------------------
[12:54:00] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
----------------------
[01/15/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[12:54:02] Source: SIMPSONS_S3
- Input BD size: 27.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [09:12:09.203]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[12:54:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:54:03] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 24)
- [12:54:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [12:55:23] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,479 frames
- Bitrate: 5,169 Kbs
- [12:55:24] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:05:15] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:52:56] Video Encode complete
- [13:52:56] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [13:52:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:54:07] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 24)
- [13:54:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [13:56:02] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,421 frames
- Bitrate: 5,129 Kbs
- [13:56:02] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:06:14] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:57:53] Video Encode complete
- [14:57:53] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:57:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:58:39] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 24)
- [14:58:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [14:59:59] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,301 frames
- Bitrate: 4,905 Kbs
- [14:59:59] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:09:23] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:55:03] Video Encode complete
- [15:55:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [15:55:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:55:47] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 24)
- [15:55:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [15:57:38] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,391 frames
- Bitrate: 5,072 Kbs
- [15:57:39] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:07:24] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:54:03] Video Encode complete
- [16:54:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [16:54:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:54:49] Processing: VID_00005 (5 of 24)
- [16:54:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [16:56:06] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,479 frames
- Bitrate: 4,897 Kbs
- [16:56:07] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:05:43] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:52:18] Video Encode complete
- [17:52:18] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [17:52:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:53:29] Processing: VID_00006 (6 of 24)
- [17:53:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [17:55:45] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,479 frames
- Bitrate: 5,040 Kbs
- [17:55:46] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:06:31] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:58:13] Video Encode complete
- [18:58:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [18:58:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:59:29] Processing: VID_00007 (7 of 24)
- [18:59:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [19:03:00] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,361 frames
- Bitrate: 5,527 Kbs
- [19:03:01] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:14:02] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:06:55] Video Encode complete
- [20:06:55] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [20:06:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:08:21] Processing: VID_00008 (8 of 24)
- [20:08:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [20:10:09] Reencoding video [VID_00008]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,479 frames
- Bitrate: 5,217 Kbs
- [20:10:09] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:20:43] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:11:53] Video Encode complete
- [21:11:53] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [21:11:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:13:06] Processing: VID_00009 (9 of 24)
- [21:13:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [21:14:59] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,271 frames
- Bitrate: 5,071 Kbs
- [21:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:26:54] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:22:04] Video Encode complete
- [22:22:04] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [22:22:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:23:07] Processing: VID_00010 (10 of 24)
- [22:23:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [22:24:54] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,361 frames
- Bitrate: 4,945 Kbs
- [22:24:55] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:34:35] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:20:23] Video Encode complete
- [23:20:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [23:20:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:21:08] Processing: VID_00011 (11 of 24)
- [23:21:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [23:22:30] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,361 frames
- Bitrate: 3,758 Kbs
- [23:22:31] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:31:38] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:14:14] Video Encode complete
- [00:14:14] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [00:14:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:14:51] Processing: VID_00012 (12 of 24)
- [00:14:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [00:16:40] Reencoding video [VID_00012]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,421 frames
- Bitrate: 5,035 Kbs
- [00:16:40] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:26:20] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:13:14] Video Encode complete
- [01:13:14] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [01:13:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:14:00] Processing: VID_00013 (13 of 24)
- [01:14:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [01:15:22] Reencoding video [VID_00013]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,449 frames
- Bitrate: 5,265 Kbs
- [01:15:22] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:25:18] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:13:08] Video Encode complete
- [02:13:08] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [02:13:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:13:55] Processing: VID_00014 (14 of 24)
- [02:13:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [02:15:48] Reencoding video [VID_00014]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,479 frames
- Bitrate: 5,257 Kbs
- [02:15:48] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:25:32] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:10:18] Video Encode complete
- [03:10:18] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [03:10:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:11:05] Processing: VID_00015 (15 of 24)
- [03:11:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [03:12:58] Reencoding video [VID_00015]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,415 frames
- Bitrate: 5,266 Kbs
- [03:12:59] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:22:57] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:10:37] Video Encode complete
- [04:10:37] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [04:10:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:11:24] Processing: VID_00016 (16 of 24)
- [04:11:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [04:12:47] Reencoding video [VID_00016]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,421 frames
- Bitrate: 5,448 Kbs
- [04:12:47] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:22:40] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:09:42] Video Encode complete
- [05:09:42] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [05:09:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:10:30] Processing: VID_00017 (17 of 24)
- [05:10:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [05:12:24] Reencoding video [VID_00017]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,421 frames
- Bitrate: 5,291 Kbs
- [05:12:25] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:22:21] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:10:13] Video Encode complete
- [06:10:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [06:10:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:11:00] Processing: VID_00018 (18 of 24)
- [06:11:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [06:12:23] Reencoding video [VID_00018]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,449 frames
- Bitrate: 5,459 Kbs
- [06:12:24] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:22:23] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:11:39] Video Encode complete
- [07:11:39] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [07:11:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:12:27] Processing: VID_00019 (19 of 24)
- [07:12:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [07:14:19] Reencoding video [VID_00019]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,001 frames
- Bitrate: 5,278 Kbs
- [07:14:20] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:24:21] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:12:46] Video Encode complete
- [08:12:46] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:12:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:13:33] Processing: VID_00020 (20 of 24)
- [08:13:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [08:14:57] Reencoding video [VID_00020]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,361 frames
- Bitrate: 5,477 Kbs
- [08:14:58] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:24:46] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:12:52] Video Encode complete
- [09:12:53] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [09:12:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:13:41] Processing: VID_00021 (21 of 24)
- [09:13:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [09:15:04] Reencoding video [VID_00021]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,391 frames
- Bitrate: 5,273 Kbs
- [09:15:04] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:24:57] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:13:17] Video Encode complete
- [10:13:17] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [10:13:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:14:04] Processing: VID_00022 (22 of 24)
- [10:14:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [10:15:33] Reencoding video [VID_00022]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,301 frames
- Bitrate: 4,108 Kbs
- [10:15:33] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:24:45] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:08:00] Video Encode complete
- [11:08:00] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [11:08:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:08:40] Processing: VID_00023 (23 of 24)
- [11:08:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [11:09:54] Reencoding video [VID_00023]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,449 frames
- Bitrate: 4,344 Kbs
- [11:09:55] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:19:18] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:03:47] Video Encode complete
- [12:03:48] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:03:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:04:28] Processing: VID_00024 (24 of 24)
- [12:04:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [12:05:36] Reencoding video [VID_00024]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 40,911 frames
- Bitrate: 4,078 Kbs
- [12:05:37] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:14:34] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:56:08] Video Encode complete
- [12:56:08] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:56:08] Multiplexing M2TS
[12:56:47]PHASE ONE complete
[12:56:47]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:56:47] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:57:02] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:57:02] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- SIMPSONS_S3 folder removed.
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[13:25:04] JOB: SIMPSONS_S3 finished.
==========================
[13:25:04] END - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
[Options]
VERSION=0.46.0.3
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
ENABLE_TEST=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=21
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BDS\SIMP_S3\IMPORTS\SIMPSONS_S3\
WORKING_PATH=F:\BDS\SIMP_S3\

jdobbs
19th January 2014, 02:19
@slvrsrfr

Could you post the content of one of the .AVS files so I can look at it? I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that these are hybrid files. That means that parts of them are telecined and other parts aren't.

slvrsrfr
19th January 2014, 05:01
You bet - I appreciate your alacrity! :)

So, the season 3 files were wiped, but I had the same behavior on season 8. There were 2 acs files per episode, let me know if you want anything else!

VID_00001.AVS contents:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.03 (beta)
DirectshowSource("F:\BDS\SIMP_S8\IMPORTS\SIMPSONS_S7\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=41999, ConvertFPS=true, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Temp\Software\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=true)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)

AUD_00001_4352.AVS contents:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.03 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Temp\Software\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00001.track_4352.ac3")
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

jdobbs
19th January 2014, 06:43
You bet - I appreciate your alacrity! :)

So, the season 3 files were wiped, but I had the same behavior on season 8. There were 2 acs files per episode, let me know if you want anything else!

VID_00001.AVS contents:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.03 (beta)
DirectshowSource("F:\BDS\SIMP_S8\IMPORTS\SIMPSONS_S7\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=41999, ConvertFPS=true, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Temp\Software\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=true)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)

AUD_00001_4352.AVS contents:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.03 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Temp\Software\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00001.track_4352.ac3")
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))It looks right. The "convertfps=true" statement should have corrected the hybrid stream.

I guess I'm going to have to get my hands on one of those discs so I can run some in-depth tests.

omegaman7
20th January 2014, 17:19
It looks right. The "convertfps=true" statement should have corrected the hybrid stream.

I guess I'm going to have to get my hands on one of those discs so I can run some in-depth tests.

I suspect if you can fix his problem, it may correct mine. It's not often that I convert from DVD to BD, so I never mentioned anything. I too, had major sync issues. But so did Multiavchd. I never tried decoding with DGDecNV though. (That recently corrected an issue I was having.)

jdobbs
20th January 2014, 17:45
I suspect if you can fix his problem, it may correct mine. It's not often that I convert from DVD to BD, so I never mentioned anything. I too, had major sync issues. But so did Multiavchd. I never tried decoding with DGDecNV though. (That recently corrected an issue I was having.)Interesting. I've done dozens of compilations in which I've pulled multiple DVDs into BD format, and I've never had a single import that was out of sync.

I will say, though, that DGDecNV helps any decoding/reencoding headaches considerably. It's a very worthwhile investment if you have a video card that supports CUDA.

omegaman7
20th January 2014, 17:48
It's been a while since I retried the attempt. If it fails again, I can offer to ship the problematic disc/s to you.

If by some chance you have it, I've been attempting "Legend of the Overfiend". "Urotsukidōji".

These are original discs, not downloads, for those that are worried about the source material :p

I'm importing directly from disc this time. Perhaps that will have a better result ;) Before, I used DVD shrink, to create a single large VOB file. (mmm... I recall dvd rebuilder not liking large vob files)

slvrsrfr
20th January 2014, 22:34
Interesting. I've done dozens of compilations in which I've pulled multiple DVDs into BD format, and I've never had a single import that was out of sync.

I've done about 10 of these, and it seems to be isolated to reencoding the hybrid mpeg-2 files: I've done seasons 1 and 4 of the Simpons without issue, but the total source content was < 21GB, so it kept the original files.

omegaman7
20th January 2014, 23:38
I encoded using X264/lavf a few hours ago. Everything appeared in sync, though frames seemed to stutter. The original was 29.97, and finished job was 23.976. This wouldn't be the first time I've seen that happen, encoders in general. Now I'm gonna see what happens using DGDecNV. I've had it correct issues in the past. I'll post back tonight, when it's finished.

Seems to totally be a decode issue. MPCHC has a problem playing the ripped files properly. Similar, to how the encoded files behaved, but not quite as erratic. TMT 5 plays the ripped files flawlessly. It can't be a bad rip, the disc is in near perfect condition. Though I have heard of people getting bad pressed discs. I really doubt that here.

I wonder if this:
Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
is being handled incorrectly.
Not sure what this means (Warning: SD Progressive Output in effect)

I hope DGDecNV corrects the problem. It's going substantially faster! :D

jdobbs
21st January 2014, 01:01
I encoded using X264/lavf a few hours ago. Everything appeared in sync, though frames seemed to stutter. The original was 29.97, and finished job was 23.976. This wouldn't be the first time I've seen that happen, encoders in general. Now I'm gonna see what happens using DGDecNV. I've had it correct issues in the past. I'll post back tonight, when it's finished.

Seems to totally be a decode issue. MPCHC has a problem playing the ripped files properly. Similar, to how the encoded files behaved, but not quite as erratic. TMT 5 plays the ripped files flawlessly. It can't be a bad rip, the disc is in near perfect condition. Though I have heard of people getting bad pressed discs. I really doubt that here.

I wonder if this:
Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
is being handled incorrectly.
Not sure what this means (Warning: SD Progressive Output in effect)

I hope DGDecNV corrects the problem. It's going substantially faster! :DI am positive IVTC is being done correctly. About 90% of the U.S. discs I process are telecined.

That warning is just letting you know that the SD source is being encoded as progressive. The BD standard specifies SD progressive @ 23.976 only on secondary video. But I have never seen or heard of a player that accept play it, and the BD flags also allow it. It gives much better quality than telecining so I allow it. You can disable it with , however, with a hidden option, but I wouldn't recommend it.

omegaman7
21st January 2014, 05:51
Well it definitely worked that time. I have a new appreciation for DGDecNV. Decoding/frameserving was no doubt the problem with X264/LAVF(Given how MPCHC handled it incorrectly). But I'm certainly no expert. It appears absolutely stutter free, perfectly in sync now :) I don't install any extra codecs. Just FFDshow, Haali, and of course Rebuilder. I haven't installed a codec pack in years ;)

dfsooner
21st January 2014, 16:10
Interesting. I've done dozens of compilations in which I've pulled multiple DVDs into BD format, and I've never had a single import that was out of sync.

I will say, though, that DGDecNV helps any decoding/reencoding headaches considerably. It's a very worthwhile investment if you have a video card that supports CUDA.

Is there an equivalent of DGDecNV for us Intel fans?

jdobbs
21st January 2014, 16:37
Not that I know of.

omegaman7
21st January 2014, 19:19
Guess I shouldn't have spoke too soon. Couple of problems I noticed. I imported all 4 titles of Overfiend, and ran the job. Imported folder was 23.5Gb. No "PSEUDO" folder was in the resulting import folder(might I recommend defaulting to "Forced Encode", when PSEUDO sources are detected, depending on source I suppose). I removed Japanese audio, so apparently rebuilder figured it did not need to encode. Because the resulting output, was 22.7Gb. However, because I imported videos that were 29.97Fps, it does need to reencode to 23.976, eh??? I plan to "Force Encode" on the next run. I have a feeling this will correct most of the problems I'm encountering.

Title 1 Input was 1:44:57, output was 2:11:ish. I suspect because TMT is seeing the proper 29.97 framerate. resulting in a blownup time frame. I suspect other players will behave the same(but I don't know).

Probably why TMT freezes when I click play too.

And a question about the resulting menu. I had to manually move titles up, respective to their playback order. The resulting menu shows this. (perhaps the numbers on the left, can be respective to their proper placement? Or, no
number at all)

--Never mind about editing the numerical titles. I found the way to remove them.--

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww302/omegaman7/Titles_zps87714bc9.png (http://s730.photobucket.com/user/omegaman7/media/Titles_zps87714bc9.png.html)
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww302/omegaman7/Resultingmenu_zpsa6464179.png (http://s730.photobucket.com/user/omegaman7/media/Resultingmenu_zpsa6464179.png.html)

mparade
21st January 2014, 22:57
In my full disc backups I am using "high" FIXED_CRF values with "highest (very slow)" encoder setting for my main movies most of the time and want to use some lower quality CRF setting for the extras. But on the other hand I want to keep the very slow setting for the extras too. "Quicker" encode for extras means quicker setting with a finally bigger file size (I do not want it at all because it would be against efficiency and I do not care about the encoding time at all) or just the opportunity to set a lower quality setting for the extras while keeping the same "highest (very slow)" profile for them that was already set up for the main feature in the "encoder setting" previously?

Really appreciate for the help.

Sharc
22nd January 2014, 00:04
......while keeping the same "highest (very slow)" profile for them that was already set up for the main feature in the "encoder setting" previously
QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1
encodes the Extras with the same quality settings as the feature.

mparade
22nd January 2014, 00:25
QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1
encodes the Extras with the same quality settings as the feature.

It is great! Thanks!

omegaman7
22nd January 2014, 08:01
I am positive IVTC is being done correctly. About 90% of the U.S. discs I process are telecined.

That warning is just letting you know that the SD source is being encoded as progressive. The BD standard specifies SD progressive @ 23.976 only on secondary video. But I have never seen or heard of a player that accept play it, and the BD flags also allow it. It gives much better quality than telecining so I allow it. You can disable it with , however, with a hidden option, but I wouldn't recommend it.

All is well now. I had to force encode, and frameserve with DGDecNV, but all is well now. Oddly, All four inputs were originally 29.97Fps. While all of them reencoded nicely, only title one has the new framrate of 23.976 :confused:

jdobbs
22nd January 2014, 14:42
All is well now. I had to force encode, and frameserve with DGDecNV, but all is well now. Oddly, All four inputs were originally 29.97Fps. While all of them reencoded nicely, only title one has the new framrate of 23.976 :confused:The 23.976 will occur only on telecined sources. BD-RB scans the MPEG source looking for flags that indicate telecining is occurring.

omegaman7
22nd January 2014, 17:19
The 23.976 will occur only on telecined sources. BD-RB scans the MPEG source looking for flags that indicate telecining is occurring.

Thank you for educating me :)

If anyone is interested in using a different background for menus, let me know. I'm capable of generating some nice imagery. Just let me know what you like, via PM, and we can talk. The default image is agreeable, but what if you're making something completely different? I think Jdobbs foreseen this, so made it easy to replace the default image ;)

AmigaFuture
23rd January 2014, 07:19
I think he foresaw it also..which is why we're able to choose instead of him embedding it with the program. Hehe. :D I might PM you after a bit.

Yordan5
23rd January 2014, 10:26
Same with my Samsung and Sony players.

I'll check on the subtitle depth issue.

Same here, subtitle 3D effect is lost after compression with BD-RB.

jdobbs
23rd January 2014, 14:37
Same here, subtitle 3D effect is lost after compression with BD-RB.It's complicated. The actual offset values are stored in the MVC stream. Sometimes the new MVC seems to have it, and sometimes it doesn't. While I don't have it figured out yet, I believe the solution will have to rely on some changes to TSMUXER.

jdobbs
23rd January 2014, 22:48
Thank you for educating me :)

If anyone is interested in using a different background for menus, let me know. I'm capable of generating some nice imagery. Just let me know what you like, via PM, and we can talk. The default image is agreeable, but what if you're making something completely different? I think Jdobbs foreseen this, so made it easy to replace the default image ;)If you have some backgrounds already developed that you'd like to share, let me know. I can put them in the MISC folder and distribute them with BD-RB.

I've been thinking about adding some backgrounds for a while now but never got around to it. I was thinking the existing stars work well for sci-fi, but I thought I might create one for comedy, action/adventure, romantic comedy, tv series, love story, documentary, horror, mystery, and war movies.

In addition to the static backgrounds, BD-RB can also automatically seek out and insert an existing video menu background when importing BDs.

omegaman7
23rd January 2014, 22:51
If you have some backgrounds already developed that you'd like to share, let me know. I can put them in the MISC folder and distribute them with BD-RB.

I've been contemplating a general Blu-Ray look. I'll let you know :) Nothing at the moment, because I usually generate menus with a theme relating to the movie i'm running ;)

My mind's already whirring with new ideas LOL!

brunchto
25th January 2014, 12:02
Hi,

i try to make a mkv of Riddick BR and i've got an error when creating mkv (MKV, intact video, intact audio):
----------------------
[01/25/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[10:45:00] Source: RIDDICK_00107
- Input BD size: 24,09 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:36:47.575]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[10:45:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:45:03] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 3)
- [10:45:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [10:53:38] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- [10:53:38] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [10:53:38] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (fra): Keeping original audio
- [10:53:38] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 3)
- [10:53:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [11:00:08] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [11:00:08] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [11:00:08] Processing: VID_00004 (3 of 3)
- [11:00:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [11:02:11] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- [11:02:11] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[11:02:11]PHASE ONE complete
[11:02:11]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:02:11] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[11:08:50] - Failed to REBUILD
Total content is strange but ...
if i demux with tsmuxer (2.6.12) then remux with mkvmerge (6.7.0), no error. any clue to solve it?

gonca
25th January 2014, 13:04
- Approximate total content: [03:36:47.575]
Did you pick the correct playlist? All BD_RB is doing is repacking the video and audio files into a new container.

jdobbs
25th January 2014, 15:10
Hi,

i try to make a mkv of Riddick BR and i've got an error when creating mkv (MKV, intact video, intact audio):
----------------------
[01/25/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[10:45:00] Source: RIDDICK_00107
- Input BD size: 24,09 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:36:47.575]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[10:45:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:45:03] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 3)
- [10:45:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [10:53:38] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- [10:53:38] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [10:53:38] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (fra): Keeping original audio
- [10:53:38] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 3)
- [10:53:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [11:00:08] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [11:00:08] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [11:00:08] Processing: VID_00004 (3 of 3)
- [11:00:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [11:02:11] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- [11:02:11] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[11:02:11]PHASE ONE complete
[11:02:11]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:02:11] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[11:08:50] - Failed to REBUILD
Total content is strange but ...
if i demux with tsmuxer (2.6.12) then remux with mkvmerge (6.7.0), no error. any clue to solve it?I discovered that issue a couple of days ago. It has been corrected for the next release (later today or tomorrow).

soneca
25th January 2014, 17:22
A similar problem using DGDecNV, and when I returned to DirectShow the process was completed, but the audio is out of sync.
jdobbs, could add a hidden option to keep the audio intact when using ALTERNATE OUTPUT?


[01/24/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[21:46:58] Source: DEAD_ZONE_T01_E03_00001
- Input BD size: 2,40 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:43:51.028]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 720x480/576, 128Kbs AC3
- Output folder: E:\VIDEOS\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[21:47:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:47:02] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [21:47:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [21:48:33] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 78.852 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [21:48:33] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:54:57] Video Encode complete
- [21:54:57] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[21:55:18]PHASE ONE complete
[21:55:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:55:18] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[21:55:28] - Failed to REBUILD

[01/25/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[13:15:56] Source: DEAD_ZONE_T01_E03_00001
- Input BD size: 2,40 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:43:51.028]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 720x480/576, 128Kbs AC3
- Output folder: E:\VIDEOS\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[13:15:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:15:59] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [13:15:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [13:17:27] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 78.852 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [13:17:27] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:24:15] Video Encode complete
- [13:24:15] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[13:24:36]PHASE ONE complete
[13:24:36]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:24:36] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[13:24:44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- IMPORT folder removed.
[13:24:44] JOB: DEAD_ZONE_T01_E03 finished.

jdobbs
25th January 2014, 17:31
The same problem happened using DGDecNV, and when I returned to directshow the process was completed but the audio is out of sync.

jdobbs, could add a hidden option to keep the audio intact when using ALTERNATE OUTPUT?


[01/24/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[21:46:58] Source: DEAD_ZONE_T01_E03_00001
- Input BD size: 2,40 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:43:51.028]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 720x480/576, 128Kbs AC3
- Output folder: E:\VIDEOS\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[21:47:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:47:02] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [21:47:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [21:48:33] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 78.852 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [21:48:33] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:54:57] Video Encode complete
- [21:54:57] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[21:55:18]PHASE ONE complete
[21:55:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:55:18] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[21:55:28] - Failed to REBUILD

[01/25/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.03 (beta)
[13:15:56] Source: DEAD_ZONE_T01_E03_00001
- Input BD size: 2,40 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:43:51.028]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 720x480/576, 128Kbs AC3
- Output folder: E:\VIDEOS\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[13:15:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:15:59] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [13:15:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [13:17:27] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 78.852 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [13:17:27] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:24:15] Video Encode complete
- [13:24:15] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[13:24:36]PHASE ONE complete
[13:24:36]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:24:36] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[13:24:44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- IMPORT folder removed.
[13:24:44] JOB: DEAD_ZONE_T01_E03 finished.You can already keep the audio intact for ALTERNATE. Either select one of the options currently available, or create a new profile in ALTERNATE.TXT.

If you are going to say "the same problem occurred" -- please reference the report that is "same". There are a lot of posts here, and I can't go back and search the thread attempting to find a reference for every new post.

DVD Maniac
25th January 2014, 17:33
Tried the new 3D feature of v46.03 with not much success with this title. Original is ripped to iso using AnyDVD. In BDRB setup I have first tried the "Enable SDS 3D Movie Only Output" which asks for a path to DirectShowMVCSource.dll file which I don't have on my system. Despite considerable searching on the web I just cannot seem to find a download site fir this file - does one exist? Closest I got was a DirectShowMVCSource.exe file which I was hopeful when run would install the dll - it odoesn't :confused:

Reading the BDRB release notes it states "Added fully BD compliant 3D support for movie-only backups. SBS and O/U 3D output is still supported via selection of the "Enable SBS 3D Movie-Only output" option in the setup menu and the "TYPE_OF_3D" hidden option output, but is not the preferred 3D method. NOTE: This feature requires Windows 7 or higher, and will be disabled on lower O/S versions"

So I tried using the new feature above (which I assume doesn't require the DirectShowMVCSource.dll). BDRB appaers to select the correct Playlist for the 3D version to process but I just get the 2D version as output. Navigating to the SSIF directory directly won't work either BDRB only accepts the root directory as input source.

Can anyone help with either sourcing the above dll file or ways to make the new feature above to work correctly please.

jdobbs
25th January 2014, 17:40
Tried the new 3D feature of v46.03 with not much success with this title. Original is ripped to iso using AnyDVD. In BDRB setup I have first tried the "Enable SDS 3D Movie Only Output" which asks for a path to DirectShowMVCSource.dll file which I don't have on my system. Despite considerable searching on the web I just cannot seem to find a download site fir this file - does one exist? Closest I got was a DirectShowMVCSource.exe file which I was hopeful when run would install the dll - it odoesn't :confused:

Reading the BDRB release notes it states "Added fully BD compliant 3D support for movie-only backups. SBS and O/U 3D output is still supported via selection of the "Enable SBS 3D Movie-Only output" option in the setup menu and the "TYPE_OF_3D" hidden option output, but is not the preferred 3D method. NOTE: This feature requires Windows 7 or higher, and will be disabled on lower O/S versions"

So I tried using the new feature above (which I assume doesn't require the DirectShowMVCSource.dll). BDRB appaers to select the correct Playlist for the 3D version to process but I just get the 2D version as output. Navigating to the SSIF directory directly won't work either BDRB only accepts the root directory as input source.

Can anyone help with either sourcing the above dll file or ways to make the new feature above to work correctly please. In most circumstances you don't want to output to SBS unless you are outputting to ALTERNATE format -- so keep that unchecked.

BD-RB automatically detects 3D and by default it outputs to a BD compliant ISO image for 3D. Make sure you check for that.

It would help a lot if you'd post a log. I can't respond properly when I haven't a clue as to what is going on.

As for DirectShowMVCSource() -- it is a third party product that has been discussed throughout the forum. It has special rules to be used -- and I've made it clear that it is meant only for those who are familiar with it.

With that said, the next release will no longer require DirectShowMVCSource -- it uses FRIMSource(), which will be included in the package.

soneca
25th January 2014, 17:41
Sorry, lacked attention.... :rolleyes:

brunchto
25th January 2014, 17:44
I discovered that issue a couple of days ago. It has been corrected for the next release (later today or tomorrow).

ok :), thanks for answering.

jdobbs
25th January 2014, 18:06
Sorry, lacked attention.... :rolleyes:Just a warning. If you are getting audio out of sync, it is very, very unlikely that it is related to the re-encoding of the audio. If you keep the original intact audio you're likely to get the same thing.

DVD Maniac
25th January 2014, 18:13
In most circumstances you don't want to output to SBS unless you are outputting to ALTERNATE format -- so keep that unchecked.

Thanks for the quick reply. I now do all my backups to MKV format with intact audio one pass as I prefer the single file result. So I guess selecting the Alternative Output format overides the new feature - I will try a standard output to BD / AVCHD compliant structure and see what happens.

BD-RB automatically detects 3D and by default it outputs to a BD compliant ISO image for 3D. Make sure you check for that.

Output file was MKV not ISO and I did not the flag for file output so this seems to support above assumption

It would help a lot if you'd post a log. I can't respond properly when I haven't a clue as to what is going on.

Will post one if above does not work!

As for DirectShowMVCSource() -- it is a third party product that has been discussed throughout the forum. It has special rules to be used -- and I've made it clear that it is meant only for those who are familiar with it.

With that said, the next release will no longer require DirectShowMVCSource -- it uses FRIMSource(), which will be included in the package.

OK, I will be patient and wait for the next release if I want MKV output with SBS 3D!

jdobbs
25th January 2014, 19:43
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version (v0.46.05) of BD-RB. Changes for this release:- Modified the log display so that messages
that do not apply to 3D backups are not
displayed during 3D mode.
- Added a new option under the SETTINGS
dialog, By selecting "Process 3D Video
sources as 2D for backup", you can tell
BD-RB to create 2D backups of 3D sources.
- Fixed an error in which the DOWNRESIZE
hidden option was not being properly set
during initialization.
- Added a new hidden option. MENU_TOP allows
you to set the highermost pixel of the menu
item selection area for Quick-Play and
IMPORT menus. See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more
details.
- Corrected the TSMUXER meta file to include
proper settings for 3D subtitles (a hat tip
goes to HWK for helping).
- Added two new hidden settings. Adding the
option FRIM_SW_DECODE=1 or FRIM_SW_ENCODE=1
to the config/INI options area will force
software decoding and/or software encoding.
The default is autodetection.
- Modified conditions so that VC-1 interlaced
sources no longer disables LAVF decoding.
The updated LAVF demuxer included in newer
releases of X264 can handle VC-1 interlaced
video now.
- Created a workaround for an issue in which
oddly muxed MKV files could, during video
file import result in a"ERROR: Collecting
video file streams." error.
- Modified routines so MVC sources are also
checked and can be kept intact when they
are already small enough to fit on a BD-25+
target.
- Updated code so that side-by-side and other
types of alternate 3D formats sources no
longer requires DirectshowMVCSource to be
installed (a third party package requiring
a license). Decoding for SBS from MVC is now
accomplished via FRIMSource().
- Fixed a problem with some multi-part sources
that could result in a "ERROR in attempt to
mux (MKVMERGE)" error when ALTERNATE output
has been selected.
- Updated the included version of TSMUXER to
a newer release (v2.6.12).
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r2389).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r2389).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

soneca
25th January 2014, 21:23
jdobbs, thanks for the new version!

Using DGDecNV the process does not complete.
Using DirectShow the process is completed.

[17:17:39] Importing DVD: TESTE
- Processing DVD title [1 of 1]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
[17:18:27] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[01/25/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.05 (beta)
[17:18:34] Source: TESTE_00001
- Input BD size: 1,10 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:44:01.071]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 720x480/576, Intact Audio
- Output folder: E:\VIDEOS\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[17:18:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:18:36] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [17:18:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [17:19:24] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 79.153 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [17:19:25] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:25:59] Video Encode complete
- [17:25:59] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[17:25:59]PHASE ONE complete
[17:25:59]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:25:59] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[17:26:09] - Failed to REBUILD
----------------------
[17:28:45] Importing DVD: TESTE
- Processing DVD title [1 of 1]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
[17:29:31] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[01/25/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.05 (beta)
[17:29:35] Source: TESTE_00001
- Input BD size: 1,10 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:44:01.071]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 720x480/576, Intact Audio
- Output folder: E:\VIDEOS\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[17:29:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:29:37] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [17:29:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [17:30:27] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 79.153 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [17:30:27] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:50:35] Video Encode complete
- [17:50:35] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[17:50:35]PHASE ONE complete
[17:50:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:50:35] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[17:50:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- IMPORT folder removed.
[17:50:47] JOB: TESTE finished.


Using DirectShow, a discrepancy occurs in the progress bar when the IVTC is active. Does not take into account the new cadence.

http://s20.postimg.org/ez6s16zgt/BDREBUILDER.png

With DGDecNV it does not.

http://s20.postimg.org/oxrqno8wd/BDREBUILDER1.png

jdobbs
25th January 2014, 21:40
There is no difference between the way output from DGDecodeNV or DirectShow is handled in rebuild. It is the exact same code.

I do notice that DGDecNV took 6 minutes to encode and Directshow took 20. That is suspicious...

I'd suggest you try it again... if it doesn't work let me know and I'll go back over the code.

Ch3vr0n
25th January 2014, 22:10
lol AVAST Internet security flags the latest bdrb as Win32: EVO [GEN] lolz

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9230/6m8o.png

Already reported it as false positive

rpareja
25th January 2014, 22:43
Kaspersky Pure 3.0 on Windows 8.1 Enterprise reports INSPECT.exe as infected, but not BDRB.exe.

jdobbs
25th January 2014, 23:15
lol AVAST Internet security flags the latest bdrb as Win32: EVO [GEN] lolz

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9230/6m8o.png

Already reported it as false positiveI'm sure it's a false positive, but I'll scan my system just to be sure. Since when does ASPROTECT create a condition? It is a commercial package, and the reason I use it is to prevent others from modifying the code and introducing something foreign. It does a self check.
Kaspersky Pure 3.0 on Windows 8.1 Enterprise reports INSPECT.exe as infected, but not BDRB.exe.That one doesn't even have ASPROTECT engaged.

rpareja
25th January 2014, 23:34
I trust your software 100%, I was just making a comment because this is the first time Kaspersky has reported anything from you.

As always, thanks for your effort and great program!

slvrsrfr
25th January 2014, 23:41
Avast flagged it too -screenshot attached:

Ch3vr0n
26th January 2014, 00:08
@jdobbs: that's what I got from the site when I looked up what asprotect was. Read it was software to protect code so knew it was safe. Especially since that evo-gen is a generic message for suspected virus. First time it gets flagged, weird thing is with avast is that when you scan the zip file directly it does not trigger. The alert only triggers when extracting the zip, making it even more obvious it is a falls positive if the av suite can't give consecutive results

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 met Tapatalk

jdobbs
26th January 2014, 03:18
I finished my scan and AVG Antivirus tells me everything is clean. I really, really, really hate antivirus packages. The only thing worse than an antivirus package is a virus -- and I'm not sure it is that much worse (considering that both can prevent your computer from working properly).

False positive -- send a nasty e-mail to your A/V provider and tell them to get it together.

Ch3vr0n
26th January 2014, 03:32
already did, via the link they provide in the "popup" when they detect a "threat" and via support ticket. In the mean time added the executable to the exclusion list. I remember you changed the name from bdrebuilder.exe to BDRB.exe due to an AV doing just that. Generating false positive

RobertM
26th January 2014, 03:34
The only worse than an antivirus package is a virus

I think Oscar Wilde said that first ;)

HWK
26th January 2014, 05:24
Avast flagged it too -screenshot attached:

I finished my scan and AVG Antivirus tells me everything is clean. I really, really, really hate antivirus packages. The only worse than an antivirus package is a virus -- and I'm not sure it is that much worse (considering that both can prevent your computer from working properly).

False positive -- send a nasty e-mail to your A/V provider and tell them to get it together.

If that is not enough, here is post created by myce user who is not happy with avast, and shows how far companies will go to annoy end user.

http://club.myce.com/f186/virus-checkers-irritating-pop-up-ads-335156/

brunchto
26th January 2014, 13:28
I discovered that issue a couple of days ago. It has been corrected for the next release (later today or tomorrow).

Thanks. it works fine now.

I've noticed that when making movie only film, angle selection works fine if i do a backup, but not if i do a batch backup.
in the batch info, MAIN_MPLS_ANGLE=0 instead of 3 if i 've select angle 4 of the playlist. i've changed it manually in the BDBATCH.INI and it seems to be ok after that.

jdobbs
26th January 2014, 15:39
Thanks. it works fine now.

I've noticed that when making movie only film, angle selection works fine if i do a backup, but not if i do a batch backup.
in the batch info, MAIN_MPLS_ANGLE=0 instead of 3 if i 've select angle 4 of the playlist. i've changed it manually in the BDBATCH.INI and it seems to be ok after that.Thanks for letting me know. I'll check it out.

colinhunt
26th January 2014, 16:50
Angles reminded me of this: I did a full backup of Re-Animator special edition (German edition) which has a Multi-angle Storyboards special feature on it. For some reason 0.45.05 discarded angle 2 from it. Could it be because source is MPEG-2 720x576?

jdobbs
26th January 2014, 16:59
Angles reminded me of this: I did a full backup of Re-Animator special edition (German edition) which has a Multi-angle Storyboards special feature on it. For some reason 0.45.05 discarded angle 2 from it. Could it be because source is 720x576?It sounds like PiP. Are you saying the secondary (PiP) video was 720x576?

colinhunt
26th January 2014, 17:07
Something else I recently noticed. A full backup came out slightly oversized so I decided to re-encode only one small m2ts, then replace m2ts and clipinf of the original backup with files from the re-encode.

Imported the m2ts into BD-RB (import > video files) but after it had collected a/v streams and built a pseudo-BD source, the Stream window listed only video. The source has 24bit 48kHz PCM audio. Log is of no help:

[17:43:05] Importing M2TS: 00004
- Preparing M2TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[17:43:26] Video import completed successfully.

The 00000.m2ts file in the IMPORTS/00004/BDMV/STREAM directory contains a video stream only.

colinhunt
26th January 2014, 17:09
It sounds like PiP. Are you saying the secondary (PiP) video was 720x576?
Sorry for being unclear. No, it's not a PiP feature. It's a multi-angle feature, a relic from DVD era, where you choose which "angle" you view by pressing the Angle button on the remote. It's like two full-screen video streams and you choose which one to view. Either/or, instead of one inside the other.

Source stream is MPEG-2 encoded 720x576 and includes two alternative video streams (angles). Oddly enough I can see no sign of it when examining the file in MediaInfo, but the Angle button works and switches between a storyboard and final scene.

update: figured out why MediaInfo claims there's only one video stream in the source. Because there is only 1 video stream in the source file! Multi-angle feature is done by having the "angles" in two separate files: 00408.m2ts and 00410.m2ts.

Why switching angles does not work in the full back-up, I don't have the foggiest.

gonca
26th January 2014, 22:04
jdobbs

- Fixed a problem with some multi-part sources
that could result in a "ERROR in attempt to
mux (MKVMERGE)" error when ALTERNATE output
has been selected.

[01/26/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.05 (beta)
[14:49:53] Source: CHERNOBYL_DIARIES_00100
- Input BD size: 14.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:25:53.690]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:49:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:49:53] Processing: VID_00083 (1 of 1)
- [14:49:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00083]
- [14:51:24] Reencoding video [VID_00083]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 123,565 frames
- [14:51:24] Reencoding: VID_00083, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:52:21] Video Encode complete
- [15:52:21] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[15:52:21]PHASE ONE complete
[15:52:21]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:52:21] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[15:52:37] - Failed to REBUILD

[Status]
LABEL=CHERNOBYL_DIARIES
VERSION=v0.46.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=15812855808
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=15812855808
TARGET_SIZE=34603008000
REDUCTION=2.18828328166338
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=6
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=4
DGDECNV=-1
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00083]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=00000
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=34603008000
SPLITS=4
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Alternate output muxing issue popped up again
One file with a 4 way split for multi processing

jdobbs
26th January 2014, 23:38
That wouldn't be related. The issue I fixed had to do with multiple part sources and your report only has one.

What happens if you eliminate the 4-way processing?

gonca
26th January 2014, 23:41
Trying it now. Will know the results in about 20 minutes

gonca
27th January 2014, 00:13
jdobbs

Still fails

[01/26/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.05 (beta)
[17:03:01] Source: CHERNOBYL_DIARIES_00100
- Input BD size: 14.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:25:53.690]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:03:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:03:01] Processing: VID_00083 (1 of 1)
- [17:03:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00083]
- [17:04:32] Reencoding video [VID_00083]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 123,565 frames
- [17:04:32] Reencoding: VID_00083, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:57:47] Video Encode complete
- [17:57:47] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[17:57:47]PHASE ONE complete
[17:57:47]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:57:47] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[17:57:47] - Failed to REBUILD

jdobbs
27th January 2014, 00:51
jdobbs

Still failsI guess I'll have to see if I can find that one (tomorrow) and see if I can repeat it.

gonca
27th January 2014, 00:54
Jdobbs

This error occurs on more movies with this version of BD_RB. Bridget Jones Diary also failed.

P.S.
Might be a good idea to try one of the movies you have first.
This isn't that good a movie, maybe not worth you spending your money if you don't have to.

jdobbs
27th January 2014, 04:13
Jdobbs

This error occurs on more movies with this version of BD_RB. Bridget Jones Diary also failed.

P.S.
Might be a good idea to try one of the movies you have first.
This isn't that good a movie, maybe not worth you spending your money if you don't have to.Can you post your settings so I can be sure I'm duplicating them?

gzr
27th January 2014, 08:33
I know you won't think this is important but since you're using tsmuxer version 2.6.11 and now 2.6.12 the m2ts file in the blu ray structure is impossible to see with players like vlc and mpc-hc while befere the were no problems at all. Maybe this can show some hidden problem with tsmuxer.

gonca
27th January 2014, 11:44
Here are the settings

[Options]
VERSION=0.46.0.5
MULTIPROCESS=1
HC_PROFILE=BEST
DEFAULT_LANG=eng
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=0
IMPORT_FOLDER=D:\
KEEP_HD_LPCM=1
DEINTERLACER_TYPE=3
UPRESIZE=LanczosResize
SD_PROGRESSIVE=1
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=0
REMOVE_IMPORT=1
USE_ZLIB=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
MENU_BACKGROUND=D:\IMPORTS\4.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=15
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=10
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=1
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=1
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=33000
TARGET_SIZE=33000
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=6
ALTCRF=18
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
AUTO_BURN=0
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=W:\MKV\
SOURCE_PATH=I:\CHERNOBYL_DIARIES\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\dgdecnv\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\dgdecnv\DGDecodeNV.dll

jdobbs
27th January 2014, 14:41
Here are the settingsHave you made a lot of modifications to the ALTERNATE.TXT file? With the settings you posted I'm getting 720x480 & AC3 as the selected ALTERNATE selection.

jdobbs
27th January 2014, 14:44
I know you won't think this is important but since you're using tsmuxer version 2.6.11 and now 2.6.12 the m2ts file in the blu ray structure is impossible to see with players like vlc and mpc-hc while befere the were no problems at all. Maybe this can show some hidden problem with tsmuxer.Can someone confirm this?

HWK
27th January 2014, 15:33
Can someone confirm this?

I am on it and will let you know.

[Update]

I use MPC-HC and it works for me with and without ffdshow. However I just demux and mux again with nothing added and removed and used tsmuxer 2.6.12

http://s27.postimg.org/4nk0ti8df/Sample.png

jdobbs
27th January 2014, 16:12
@gonca

I was able to repeat the ALTERNATE muxing issue. I'm working on it now.

@HWK

Thanks.

soneca
27th January 2014, 16:43
@gonca

I was able to repeat the ALTERNATE muxing issue. I'm working on it now.

Jdobbs, actually the process is only completed using directshow and progress bar only goes wrong when using the directshow.

[01/27/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.05 (beta)
[12:18:08] Source: MISTERIOS_DO_NILO_00001
- Input BD size: 10,48 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:47:38.814]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1280x720, 448Kbs DD5.1
- Output folder: E:\VIDEOS\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[12:18:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:18:08] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [12:18:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [12:25:13] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 68.543 frames
- [12:25:13] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:46:31] Video Encode complete
- [12:46:31] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[12:47:39]PHASE ONE complete
[12:47:39]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:47:39] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[12:48:56] - Failed to REBUILD
----------------------
[01/27/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.05 (beta)
[13:04:48] Source: MISTERIOS_DO_NILO_00001
- Input BD size: 10,48 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:47:38.814]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1280x720, 448Kbs DD5.1
- Output folder: E:\VIDEOS\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[13:04:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:04:50] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [13:04:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [13:08:04] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 68.543 frames
- [13:08:04] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:32:49] Video Encode complete
- [13:32:49] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[13:33:58]PHASE ONE complete
[13:33:58]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:33:58] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[13:34:45] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- IMPORT folder removed.
[13:34:45] JOB: MISTERIOS_DO_NILO finished.

http://s20.postimg.org/ohtyhbkzx/bdrebuilder.png

Stigmatta
27th January 2014, 19:49
Ive been having an odd situation lately where no matter what settings i use for making mkv/mp4 files, the file sizes keep coming out to be 4.30gb range, regardless of the length of the movie. Ive never had this issue before in the past and most of my files would usually be around 2-3gb range. Has anyone else experienced this? Have a possible solution? Ive tried both DirectShow and X264/LAVF, but not DGD.

jdobbs
27th January 2014, 20:12
Ive been having an odd situation lately where no matter what settings i use for making mkv/mp4 files, the file sizes keep coming out to be 4.30gb range, regardless of the length of the movie. Ive never had this issue before in the past and most of my files would usually be around 2-3gb range. Has anyone else experienced this? Have a possible solution? Ive tried both DirectShow and X264/LAVF, but not DGD.Post the contents of LASTCMD.TXT in the BD-RB folder right after running a job and I'll be able to tell you for sure -- but since it looks like you are using CRF, the output size is determined by that setting and there is no expected target size. Have you changed the CRF value recently?

Stigmatta
27th January 2014, 20:50
I think this should be the last one. Also, sorry if im attaching these wrong, not sure how you guys are doing the scrollable attaching, its been a while for me since ive attached stuff in forums lol.
I have been using CRF 23

jdobbs
27th January 2014, 21:13
I think this should be the last one. Also, sorry if im attaching these wrong, not sure how you guys are doing the scrollable attaching, its been a while for me since ive attached stuff in forums lol.
I have been using CRF 23That command line used a CRF of 23. So whatever size the file is... it is what is necessary to maintain a CRF of 23. In other words, there is nothing wrong.

gonca
27th January 2014, 23:01
Sorry it took so long to reply, just got home from work.
Here is my ALTERNATE.TXT just in case you still need to see it.

# The options below show up in the Alternate Output Dialog
# Settings:
# caption=Text to show on alternate selection list
# vBitrate=Bitrate to use for two-pass video encoding, * = variable (DVD only)
# aBitrate=Bitrate to use for audio encoding, * = automatic (not allowed for iPod & iPad)
# aType=Output Audio Type, 0=AC3, 1=AAC (Note: Audio bitrate less than 384Kbs implies stereo downmix)
# 2=[Intact audio -- MKV & MP4 only]
# vFormat=Video Format: 0=320x240/180, 1= 480x360/270, 2= 640x480/360, 3= 1024x768/576,
# 4= 1280x720, 5= 1920x1080, 6= 720x480/576, 7= No Resizing, 8=Intact
# vKeyint=Video GOP size (interval): Default=24, "Auto" = 10x framerate (MKV & MP4 only)
# cType= Container/limits type, 0=iPod (mp4), 1=MKV, 2=iPad (mp4), 3=DVD-5, 4=DVD-9, 5=MP4 6=iPad 2+ (MP4)

[00001]
caption=DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
vBitrate=*
aBitrate=*
aType=0
vFormat=6
cType=3
[00002]
caption=DVD-9, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
vBitrate=*
aBitrate=*
aType=0
vFormat=6
cType=4
[00003]
caption=MKV Container, 720x480/576, 448Kbs DD5.1
vBitrate=872
aBitrate=448
aType=0
vFormat=6
cType=1
[00004]
caption=MKV Container, 720x480/576, Intact Audio
vBitrate=872
aType=2
vFormat=6
cType=1
[00005]
caption=MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
vBitrate=5120
aBitrate=640
aType=0
vFormat=5
cType=1
[00006]
caption=MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio
vBitrate=20000
aType=2
vFormat=5
cType=1
[00007]
caption=MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
aType=2
vFormat=8
cType=1
[00008]
caption=MKV Container, Intact video, 640 kbs DD5.1
vFormat=8
aBitrate=640
aType=0
cType=1

HWK
28th January 2014, 00:31
Jdobbs, were you able to get 3D offset working or waiting for Roman to fix it.

omegaman7
28th January 2014, 00:42
I had to rerun a job, which was no big deal, since .m2ts files don't have to be reencoded(depending on a few factors). Rebuilder decided to use Jdobbs default picture instead, despite my renaming my file, to the appropriate name.

I had renamed his, to "menuback DEFAULT.jpg". Rebuilder still used it. So, the next time around, I called it "JD background". That did the trick.

It's possible that "I" screwed up somehow, so I'll be looking into this further. Just thought I'd report back on this.

gonca
28th January 2014, 01:04
omegaman7
Just use Settings > Import/Quick Play Settings to establish a new default background. Works every time.

omegaman7
28th January 2014, 01:12
omegaman7
Just use Settings > Import/Quick Play Settings to establish a new default background. Works every time.

OMG... Shaking my head! I'm such a newb LOL!!!

gonca
28th January 2014, 01:21
OMG... Shaking my head! I'm such a newb LOL!!!

BD_RB is growing fast:)
I'm always reading the changelogs and hiddenopts to see what new features are avaiable.

jdobbs
28th January 2014, 02:04
I had to rerun a job, which was no big deal, since .m2ts files don't have to be reencoded(depending on a few factors). Rebuilder decided to use Jdobbs default picture instead, despite my renaming my file, to the appropriate name.

I had renamed his, to "menuback DEFAULT.jpg". Rebuilder still used it. So, the next time around, I called it "JD background". That did the trick.

It's possible that "I" screwed up somehow, so I'll be looking into this further. Just thought I'd report back on this.It looks for the background with the default name or the name that has been selected in the settings, so I think it must have been a mistake of some kind.

omegaman7
28th January 2014, 05:31
BD_RB is growing fast:)
I'm always reading the changelogs and hiddenopts to see what new features are avaiable.

So do I :o But somehow, I overlooked that little tidbit LOL! Naturally, we'd be able to select another image :D

AmigaFuture
28th January 2014, 08:46
I had to rerun a job, which was no big deal, since .m2ts files don't have to be reencoded(depending on a few factors). Rebuilder decided to use Jdobbs default picture instead, despite my renaming my file, to the appropriate name.

I had renamed his, to "menuback DEFAULT.jpg". Rebuilder still used it. So, the next time around, I called it "JD background". That did the trick.

It's possible that "I" screwed up somehow, so I'll be looking into this further. Just thought I'd report back on this.

Is the menu being read with "menuback*.jpg"? Otherwise it was locked while BD-RB is still running?

jdobbs
28th January 2014, 13:39
Is the menu being read with "menuback*.jpg"? Otherwise it was locked while BD-RB is still running?It is only opened/closed when a menu is being created. So if you renamed a file while BD-RB is running it should work except for that few seconds.

mparade
30th January 2014, 08:48
When do you recommend using EXTENDED_GOP=1? Is it just to improve compression efficiency for BD-5/9 output at the cost of seeking precision?

Any help is appreciated.

musiclover
30th January 2014, 10:20
On the first page of this thread is given to ensure that Uncompressed audio is set to "All Supported" in ffdshow. In the readme in the bd_rebuilder archive however this step is omitted. Is this step still valid?

AmigaFuture
30th January 2014, 11:21
Ah, good to have the forum back.

MKV output from multiple files is functioning well here. I didn't realize it wasn't since with the previous version I hadn't really used that feature. I've tested with several movies, and...Nice! I think I found a different kind of bug.

When I edited Total Recall (Original not remake), and Iron Main 3 I edited both with BD-50 active with main machine. Noreencode happened except for audio.. As per normal. Then played both, and all looked/sounded good. Transfered them to my other machine for encoding in Batch BD25.
I checked them each, unchecking the extras I had kept before and making sure the (banked) were set the same as with my machine. I repeated this for the other movie. Later, I check to find with Iron Man 3 some Extras weren't kept, and for Total Recall
the same. Anyone else doing this and notice it? Using 0.46.05, Thanks.

Sharc
30th January 2014, 11:41
When do you recommend using EXTENDED_GOP=1? Is it just to improve compression efficiency for BD-5/9 output at the cost of seeking precision?

Any help is appreciated.
Yes. Longer GOPs improve compression efficiency because there will be less I frames. On BD5/9 this makes sense, as high efficiency is most crucial for low bitrate encoding.

pididdi
30th January 2014, 15:52
I had pulsating dtc-blocks in bd-dvd output from a certain Bluray-source with BD-RBV04605, so i have taken a short 10 min. clip from the certain Bluray-source for a test-run and encoded it with v0.45.03 with the latest x264.exe from v0.46.05. the result was quite better, there were no dtc-blocks anywhere to find. Here is the avs-script i have used everytime.

LoadPlugin("C:\video\dgdecnv2045\DGDecodeNV.dll")
DGSource("C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00001.DGI", fieldop=0)
BicubicResize(1440,1080)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1000)

Now i will encode the whole bluray-source with v0.45.03!

jdobbs
30th January 2014, 16:51
I had pulsating dtc-blocks in bd-dvd output from a certain Bluray-source with BD-RBV04605, so i have taken a short 10 min. clip from the certain Bluray-source for a test-run and encoded it with v0.45.03 with the latest x264.exe from v0.46.05. the result was quite better, there were no dtc-blocks anywhere to find. Here is the avs-script i have used everytime.

LoadPlugin("C:\video\dgdecnv2045\DGDecodeNV.dll")
DGSource("C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00001.DGI", fieldop=0)
BicubicResize(1440,1080)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1000)

Now i will encode the whole bluray-source with v0.45.03!I'm sorry, but I don't see how that is logically possible. The two versions should use identical settings in the encode.

The encode command line is stored in LASTCMD.TXT in the BD-RB folder. If you see a difference, please report it. The same version of X264, with the same source and the same command line cannot create different output. In fact I suspect they will have bit-for-bit identical .264 files.

jdobbs
30th January 2014, 18:23
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the newest version of BD-RB (v0.46.06). Changes for this release:- Added a new type of IMPORT function. BD-RB
will now import video files in 3D side-by-
side (SBS) format, and when reencoding the
created pseudo source to BD-5/9/25/50 they
will be converted back to standard MVC for
3D playback in 3D-capable BD players.
- Corrected an error the could result in a
failed encode when outputting to ALTERNATE
formats from a 3D source without having the
"Enable SBS 3D Movie-Only output" selected.
- Fixed a problem with some non-multipart
sources using multiprocessing settings that
could result in a "ERROR in attempt to mux
(MKVMERGE)" error when ALTERNATE output has
been selected.
- Fixed an issue in which an ALTERNATE choice
from a 3D source that has been selected for
intact video output without SBS mode chosen
might sometimes incorrectly reencode.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

omegaman7
30th January 2014, 18:31
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the newest version of BD-RB (v0.46.06). Changes for this release:- Added a new type of IMPORT function. BD-RB
will now import video files in 3D side-by-
side (SBS) format, and when reencoding the
created pseudo source to BD-5/9/25/50 they
will be converted back to standard MVC for
3D playback in 3D-capable BD players.
- Corrected an error the could result in a
failed encode when outputting to ALTERNATE
formats from a 3D source without having the
"Enable SBS 3D Movie-Only output" selected.
- Fixed a problem with some non-multipart
sources using multiprocessing settings that
could result in a "ERROR in attempt to mux
(MKVMERGE)" error when ALTERNATE output has
been selected.
- Fixed an issue in which an ALTERNATE choice
from a 3D source that has been selected for
intact video output without SBS mode chosen
might sometimes incorrectly reencode.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

You're amazing JD! Donation when I get my return! ;)

Here's a good question. When outputting to 3DBD(25/50), does it automatically create an .iso, or is user intervention required? We need to manually tell it to create the .iso?

jdobbs
30th January 2014, 19:52
You're amazing JD! Donation when I get my return! ;)

Here's a good question. When outputting to 3DBD(25/50), does it automatically create an .iso, or is user intervention required? We need to manually tell it to create the .iso?It follows the same rules as backing up a 3D disc. By default it creates an ISO, but it can be changed with a hidden setting. I highly recommend ISO output, however, as currently (because of the way BD3D works) you will reduce quality when outputting to a folder.

omegaman7
30th January 2014, 20:07
It follows the same rules as backing up a 3D disc. By default it creates an ISO, but it can be changed with a hidden setting. I highly recommend ISO output, however, as currently (because of the way BD3D works) you will reduce quality when outputting to a folder.

Very logical, as I thought. Thanks ;)

pididdi
30th January 2014, 20:18
I had pulsating dtc-blocks in bd-dvd output from a certain Bluray-source with BD-RBV04605, so i have taken a short 10 min. clip from the certain Bluray-source for a test-run and encoded it with v0.45.03 with the latest x264.exe from v0.46.05. the result was quite better, there were no dtc-blocks anywhere to find. Here is the avs-script i have used everytime.

LoadPlugin("C:\video\dgdecnv2045\DGDecodeNV.dll")
DGSource("C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00001.DGI", fieldop=0)
BicubicResize(1440,1080)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1000)

Now i will encode the whole bluray-source with v0.45.03!

here is the inf of the main-movie "odd thomas" in question (if this will help):

[Status]
LABEL=ODD_THOMAS
VERSION=v0.46.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=29937389568
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=29937389568
TARGET_SIZE=4771020800
REDUCTION=.15936662711233
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=-1
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
[00003]
AUDIO=11
PGS=11
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=707924
SPLITS=1

i have used LAVF and DgdecoderNV - no change! and with older versions of bd-rebuilder i have the same problem. would it help to increase the target size?

oh man, i'm sorry for this! but i have to run some tests! the problem in question appeares by rebuilding the main movie. Now i have tried strict avchd option.

"C:\video\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset medium --bluray-compat --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 4650 --level 4.0 --qpfile "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00001.CHP" --sar 4:3 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 13000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "C:\VIDEO\FILM\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264"

i go to sleep now!

jdobbs
30th January 2014, 20:41
@pididdi

Please read my response (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1664985#post1664985) to your first post.

HWK
30th January 2014, 21:42
Jdobbs, for SBS option. Does program accept full and half option or is it limited to one type.

jdobbs
30th January 2014, 21:52
Jdobbs, for SBS option. Does program accept full and half option or is it limited to one type.I'll have to look at it. I aimed at half-SBS at 1080 or less and didn't give much thought to full. If it doesn't work at full, I'll add it for the next release, it shouldn't be a big deal. The only other limitation is that it must be 23.976fps, as the output will be 1080p. I may add the ability to import 50/60fps at some point in the future for 720p backup, but I think those types of files will be pretty rare.

HWK
30th January 2014, 21:59
I'll have to look at it. I aimed at half-SBS at 1080 or less and didn't give much thought to full. If it doesn't work at full, I'll add it for the next release, it shouldn't be a big deal. The only other limitation is that it must be 23.976fps, as the output will be 1080p. I may add the ability to import 50/60fps at some point in the future for 720p backup, but I think those types of files will be pretty rare.

Thinking about it I realize FRIM want full SBS with resolution 3840*1080, so the way I see is use avisynth resize filter to make correct size for half SBS.

Aldo did you notice or aware of frimsource.dll increase frame rate by 2.

mparade
30th January 2014, 22:28
Yes. Longer GOPs improve compression efficiency because there will be less I frames. On BD5/9 this makes sense, as high efficiency is most crucial for low bitrate encoding.

Thanks.

jdobbs
30th January 2014, 22:32
Thinking about it I realize FRIM want full SBS with resolution 3840*1080, so the way I see is use avisynth resize filter to make correct size for half SBS.

Aldo did you notice or aware of frimsource.dll increase frame rate by 2.Yes. I currently upsize to 3840x1080 via AVISYNTH when I feed it to FRIMEncode.

I'm not having any issues with output from frimsource() in my testing, so I don't think it has an impact.

mparade
30th January 2014, 22:52
Sorry for my neither bug nor 3D related questions....:(

From changes.txt: "any bitrate you use for secondaries is stolen directly from the primary video." If I used FIXED_CRF for primary video encoding would this statement be still remained? So, will the primary video's quality "suffer" some in this case as well?

Thank you for the help.

jdobbs
30th January 2014, 23:24
Sorry for my neither bug nor 3D related questions....:(

From changes.txt: "any bitrate you use for secondaries is stolen directly from the primary video." If I used FIXED_CRF for primary video encoding would this statement be still remained? So, will the primary video's quality "suffer" some in this case as well?

Thank you for the help.No... but the output size would be unpredictable. It may or may not be small enough to fit on your selected target.

jdobbs
30th January 2014, 23:36
Jdobbs, for SBS option. Does program accept full and half option or is it limited to one type.I had to make one small change to enable full SBS support. I'm doing a test now, and will post an update (assuming it works ok).