BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[kufo]

@mparade
There's no problem, I think.
You only have to use the right settings for 3D encoding. Shrinking to BD25 works fine for me. A simple selection of of your fav. audio can 't be a problem in my opinion.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Will BD-RB have an option for chosing DGDecNV as the frameserver for UHD-BD encodings? I have a Pascal Card and latest DGDecNV now supports decoding of HEVC upto 12-bit without any issue. I have tested it and is working flawlessly.

Thanks for this amazing software.Right now I don’t have a card that supports it, so I have no way of testing it... so probably not for a while.

[jdobbs]

Is it possible to use Full Backup mode in case of BD3D source (including menus and extras) without reencoding the video (keeping intact)? I just want to throw out unwanted audio streams, reencode the English HD track to AC3 5.1 while keeping an other AC3 5.1 track of the main movie.

Giving thanks to any answer. :)I should be no problem. From that perspective BD-RB treats 3D like any other source.

[mparade]

@mparade
There's no problem, I think.
You only have to use the right settings for 3D encoding. Shrinking to BD25 works fine for me. A simple selection of of your fav. audio can 't be a problem in my opinion.

I am still thinking about shrinking the video of my 3DBD-s as well, I just do not have so much experience with FrimEncode. AFAIK FrimEncode doesn't have something like CRF mode. For my encodes, I always use fix "transparent" crf values like 18 for main movie and 20 for the extras and I generally am totally "satisfied with my care". :)

Does anyone here have experience with FrimEncode? My aim to achieve some "visual transparency" while keeping the original menus with extras and throwing out unwanted tracks.
Thanks again for any opinion shared.

[kufo]

@mparade
I did a lot of 3D movies using Frim. It´s quiet slow, but it works. On my system it´s about 16fps. A normal 2D Encode is about 10x faster... The results are fine on my beamer with a 120" screen.
i can´t say if it would be ok for you with my settings. I never had faulty encodes stay over 55% of the original size.
Make a test and watch the result.

[mparade]

Thanks. Do you use software decoding/encoding in BD-RB, right? Quality settings is set to default, right?

It seems to be quite difficult to determine a sufficient average bitrate for the VBR encodes because complexity of the source changes from one to an other. ~45% of bitrate saving sounds quite impressive, anyway. On top of it all, I would like to check the result on my small LG C6V 4K HDR (3D TV), so....

[Ch3vr0n]

jdobbs, the past couple weeks i've done a full system format (to fix an issue with the windows indexing service among other things) and to move from my Samsung 850 EVO to my Samsung 960 Pro. Naturally i'm using BDRB again and i've decided to go with LAV filters only. Now the instructions don't say if anything needs to be configured in the audio or video splitter. Do they, or are they just fine simply after installing? For the video splitter is it ok to enable nvidia cuvid/quicksync? When doing 3D should i set it to quicksync?

[kufo]

Thanks. Do you use software decoding/encoding in BD-RB, right? Quality settings is set to default, right?

Absolutly right: software decoding/encoding and quality settings to default. My last 3D projects were Star Wars VIII and Jumanji.
Even the dark scenes looked good and 3D was very impressive.
Finaly you´ll have to test it for your own, if this would fit for you.;)

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, the past couple weeks i've done a full system format (to fix an issue with the windows indexing service among other things) and to move from my Samsung 850 EVO to my Samsung 960 Pro. Naturally i'm using BDRB again and i've decided to go with LAV filters only. Now the instructions don't say if anything needs to be configured in the audio or video splitter. Do they, or are they just fine simply after installing? For the video splitter is it ok to enable nvidia cuvid/quicksync? When doing 3D should i set it to quicksync?LAV Filters should work fine with the defaults. The other settings (cuvid etc.) depend on your specific configuration. What they will do for you in most cases is increase speed. On my system I just tried them and selected the ones that worked best. You don’t need to change anything when doing 3D.

[Mark_Venture]

@jdobbs

Will BD-RB have an option for chosing DGDecNV as the frameserver for UHD-BD encodings? I have a Pascal Card and latest DGDecNV now supports decoding of HEVC upto 12-bit without any issue. I have tested it and is working flawlessly.

Thanks for this amazing software.

Right now I don’t have a card that supports it, so I have no way of testing it... so probably not for a while.
Sorry, I'm still not sure I follow the status of BD-RB and UHD.. It doesn't support it, right? (not even for UHD -> Movie only MKV)..

Did you ever decide if you'll work on it? or will it be included or BD-RB or will it be a separate program?

[Mark_Venture]

Not necessarily a bug, but not a feature either.. more of a question..

Usually I rip BD's to HD, then setup a batch of multiple movies (Alt Movie only to MKV) and walk away..

Today I ran into a disc that gave me read errors trying to rip to HD... For gins and smiles, I decided to set the sources in BD-Rebuild as the bluray drive, and proceeded to do the Alt Movie Only... If there were read errors from the disc, would BD-RB have given an error message during the process?

Since it completed without error, is it possible the movie only MKV is actually fine? (I hope to get to watch it later today or tomorrow)

[ggtop]

If there were read errors from the disc, would BD-RB have given an error message during the process?

Not necessarilly from BD-RB, but from its helper apps such as TSMuxer or the chosen frameserver. In your case it sounds like you had read errors on files that are not part of the main title.

BTW You could try to copy all files with Windows Explorer to see which file is the culprit and then examine where it belongs to.

ggtop

[LowDead]

Hi! Getting these errors lately everytime I open a BD source. I have run the inspect with everything ok. Jdobbs maybe you could point me in the right direction for further troubleshooting?

05-16-18 [01:55:37] SourceCheck() 00009 2501
05-16-18 [01:56:23] SourceCheck() 00055 2501
05-16-18 [01:57:17] SourceCheck() 00009 2501
05-16-18 [01:58:54] SourceCheck() 00055 2501
05-16-18 [02:02:36] SourceCheck() 00009 2501
05-16-18 [02:03:07] SourceCheck() 00055 2501

[05-16-18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 32,40GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[05-16-18] Systems Settings Check complete

//LD

[Ch3vr0n]

Not a 100% sure but think that error means bdrb doesn't have enough free space to work with. You need a lot more than your 32gb to do a full disclosure backup. But can't be sure since you left out half the log.

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[thecrowler]

Hi all.
For the first time, I'm experiencing a target size problem with BD Rebuilder v0.50.25.
From "inspect", everything seems to be correct (gonna paste the log).
The BD I'm trying to shrink is multi-angle and multi-playlist: the resulting shrink is 26.4 GB.
It's a full backup, BD size output setting is BD-25, quality "automatic" and "Quicker encode for extras" is enabled (if disabled, the resulting folder is even bigger).
Languages selected are eng and ita only, audio is converted from dts to ac3.
x264 internal LAVF is used for frame serving.
No "Hidden" option is used.
The system is not overclocked.
Here's the conversion log(s):
16343

[LowDead]

Not a 100% sure but think that error means bdrb doesn't have enough free space to work with. You need a lot more than your 32gb to do a full disclosure backup. But can't be sure since you left out half the log.

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I don't get any log as it doesn't open the discs.. Have tried other temp drives with alot more space so it isn't that.

//LD

Edit reason: Scratch that. Seems to be a corrupt source. Sorry for taking up your time.

//LD

[Rodger]

Hi Together....since BD-Rebuilder has not been updated....maybe because of a lack of need ;)
x264/x265 encoder had further progress. Is there any info available which versions to pick from "http://msystem.waw.pl/x265/" for example ?

[jdobbs]

@LowDead

That's a subscript out of range error... which is very odd and makes me think (at first glance) it is a corrupt source. Can you tell me what disc and region you are trying to do?

[LowDead]

@ jdobbs

Thats an US funimation release of chunibyo rikka version. Well it was a corrupt source and/or hdd. After rerip everything goes smothly.

//LD

[jdobbs]

Cool.

[Lathe]

I'm experiencing a size problem...



I've never had to worry about that...

[thecrowler]

i've never had to worry about that...

rotfl :d

[Lathe]

rotfl :d

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[gonca]

I've never had to worry about that...

Yeah, no size, no problem LITTLE Lathe

[varekai]

I've never had to worry about that...
duh... everybody knows that it's not about size, its color and frequency that matters...

[Lathe]

duh... everybody knows that it's not about size, its color and frequency that matters...

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/laugh.gif http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif

[Ch3vr0n]

@Jdobbs and others interested. I have an update on that issue where i was unable to get Intel QuickSync to work with BDRB while having my GTX 1080 being used for actual display.

Now: as to the update. After doing some research last monday (again), i read one on of the sites that even though the iGPU would be enabled in the motherboard BIOS that it would shut itself off if no display was connected. So i though, "i wonder if there's something to simulate an attached display". So i went onto Amazon (UK), and entered "HDMI dummy plug". Lo and behold, there was. Multiple ones. So i looked through a couple and ordered this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072PV6K8J

It arrived today, i just got home, grabbed it, plugged it straight in to the onboard hdmi. Instantly an "Intel HD Graphics" icon popped up in my system tray and when i checked windows control panel > Display, there was indeed a "third monitor". So i though, i wonder if it'll work. If it doesn't back to amazon. So i loaded a 3D iso in VCD. Fired up BDRB and placed the following in the ini file "FRIM_SW_DECODE=0" and "FRIM_SW_ENCODE=0" to let everything being handled automatically. Pressed "Backup" and after about 5 min of demuxing, where it would first stall for about 10-15sec and then fail, after mere seconds the FPS started ticking... 10, 20, 30 (passed that 88 someone mentioned) and it's peaking out at 116,8!!!! fps on "Sin_City_2_3D".

So i guess it worked! Long story short, if you fail to enable FRIM quicksync with bdrb on 3D sources with a discrete graphics card used for your monitors. Grab a $10 hdmi or DVI dummy plug and install that. Problem solved!

Now to hope there won't be any graphical glitches (or has that problem that was present in early builds with hardware encoding being used) been solved?

** edit ** FPS capped out at 117.11FPS. Not bad coming from 20-24 FPS. Thats nearly x5. Multipluxing the wanted streams back together took a whopping 33 seconds :p, then proceeded to scanning the 3D CLPI info

[jdobbs]

@Ch3vr0n

Way cool!

[Ch3vr0n]

Lol and the build to ISO on my samsung 960 Pro took a whopping 50 seconds :D 99-106x.

That only leave's this @Jdobbs

Now to hope there won't be any graphical glitches (or has that problem that was present in early builds with hardware encoding being used) been solved?

Is that fixed?

**edit** nupe. Setting 0/0 results in severe pixellation issues. Guess i have some tinkering to do to find out which settings work best.

[worknstiff]

@ Ch3vr0n; RE: severe pixellation issues. Same here also. The quicksync encodes all have some pretty serious crosstalk issues. Wonder if this is why Clone doesn't do full 3D backup. Kudos to BD_Rebuilder for PERFECT 3D backups, even if slow software FRIM.

[jdobbs]

I do full speed FRIM backups on my notebook computer with no pixelation issues.. I do remember having to find the right DLLs to make it work correctly, though.

[Ch3vr0n]

0/0 and 1/0, result in pixellations. Trying 0/1 next. Are those dll's included in the current release of bdrb? If not, care to link them? Maybe my FRIM could use an update but there's no link to an officially supported version in 1st post. Found this though https://www.videohelp.com/software/FRIM. Are those the ones or are you using others. (x86 or x64) You also say dlls plural, i only have frimsource.dll in bdrb folder.

[jdobbs]

0/0 and 1/0, result in pixellations. Trying 0/1 next. Are those dll's included in the current release of bdrb? If not, care to link them? Maybe my FRIM could use an update but there's no link to an officially supported version in 1st post. Found this though https://www.videohelp.com/software/FRIM. Are those the ones or are you using others. (x86 or x64) You also say dlls plural, i only have frimsource.dll in bdrb folder.If I recall correctly, they were the DLLs that support quicksync on your PC, not the ones that come with FRIM. It's been a while, though.

[MrVideo]

So i guess it worked! Long story short, if you fail to enable FRIM quicksync with bdrb on 3D sources with a discrete graphics card used for your monitors. Grab a $10 hdmi or DVI dummy plug and install that. Problem solved!
True if:
1) You have an internal GPU chipset and
2) The internal GPU is an Intel chipset.

[Lathe]

Yeah, no size, no problem LITTLE Lathe



Was this the GIF that you had attached...? I felt bad for you, so I did a search for the name of that one. WOW, 'size' is right! :)


https://archive-media-1.nyafuu.org/bant/image/1499/81/1499810903757.gif

[Ch3vr0n]

If I recall correctly, they were the DLLs that support quicksync on your PC, not the ones that come with FRIM. It's been a while, though.

Did you just have to paste the dlls in the bdrb folder? If so, if you don't mind grabbing them for me :)

@jdobbs

i did some looking into the Intel Media SDK and found this

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=170315

Starting post 6 and beyond it becomes interesting. The glitching might be specific to the right eye stream. The fix might be

b) A broken right view is produced by bad settings in tsMuxeR (please uncheck "continually insert PPS/SPS" and CHECK "do not change SEI and VUI data" for AVC and MVC tracks)

Can you make test build for me with that setting fixed?

[mparade]

@jdobbs

In archive x264 mode, is each of the hidden and non-hidden full-backup related settings applied? Is it exactly like a full-backup mode except for using fix crf value for all of the titles including extras and secondary video streams as well?

Archive_AUDIO is only for x265 mode?
In x264 mode, Archive_CRF parameter overrides all other CRF values concurrently set as well?
If I leave ARCHIVE_QUALITY on default value while using non-auto quality settings, will my quality settings be picked up by BD-RB?

This feature sounds very promising anyway for my archiving purposes.

Thank you very much for the help.

[jdobbs]

Did you just have to paste the dlls in the bdrb folder? If so, if you don't mind grabbing them for me :)

@jdobbs

i did some looking into the Intel Media SDK and found this

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=170315

Starting post 6 and beyond it becomes interesting. The glitching might be specific to the right eye stream. The fix might be



Can you make test build for me with that setting fixed?Interesting, I hadn't seen that. Was it confirmed as fixing the issue by others? I'll put that in as a hidden option so you can test it and I'll post an interim release.

[Ch3vr0n]

No idea if it was confirmed. I stopped reading after I read about the switch. Figured I'd let you know immediately. There's only one way to find out if it'll work and that's to try it with bdrb.

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[Wolfe999]

Having just acquired a new PC for editing, was forced to migrate to Win 10. With this O.S. I suffer a constant drawback with Multiavchd ( I've been using this software for many years for multiepisodic BD's with satisfactory results): it doesn't accept my menu image and always uses its default.

Sorry for the digresion.

Decided to try a way to do it with BD-Rebuilder that I copied and kept years ago.

When I import the MKV files set in the same folder with the name of the BD I want (all mkv's are compliant), the process always aborts when it enounters latin accentuated words, in this specific case, of 12 files, 4:

-Satélite
-Tecnología
-Área
-Titánico

I'm sure there must be a way to solve it, but I wasn't able to locate it. Would appreciate any help.

Thanx :)

[jdobbs]

Did you just have to paste the dlls in the bdrb folder? If so, if you don't mind grabbing them for me :)

@jdobbs

i did some looking into the Intel Media SDK and found this

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=170315

Starting post 6 and beyond it becomes interesting. The glitching might be specific to the right eye stream. The fix might be



Can you make test build for me with that setting fixed?One thing you can do to test this is to edit the MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta file and remove the ", insertSEI" entry from the video muxing line. Then just manually run TSMUXER to create the structure using the modified meta file.

[Ch3vr0n]

yeah i'll pass. Not too savvy when it comes to running command line stuff. I can wait :)

[ggtop]

yeah i'll pass. Not too savvy when it comes to running command line stuff. I can wait :)

It's really easy :-)

Open a CMD window in your working Directory (SHIFT + right click in Win Explorer will give you the option to open a prompt) and enter:
"path/to/tsmuxer" MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta "path/to/working directory"

path/to/tsmuxer is in BD-RB tools subdirectory

That's it!

[ggtop]

Hi,

I just wanted to create an movie-only backup of "The Maze Runner" (2014). The Bluray is a combined 2 & 3D one. BD-RB setup: "Process 3D Video sources as 2D for backup".

The correct playlist is 00800.mpls which points to 00800.m2ts only. That one can also be seen in "Other movie-only playlist" dialog, but it can't be chosen. BDRB always picks others which are definitely not the main movie.

Finally I was able to convince BDRB through importing the Bluray and picking up 00800. The result is fine.

Any ideas?

ggtop

[jdobbs]

The correct playlist is 00800.mpls which points to 00800.m2ts only. That one can also be seen in "Other movie-only playlist" dialog, but it can't be chosen.Can't be chosen???? Why? What stops it from being chosen?

[ggtop]

Can't be chosen???? Why? What stops it from being chosen?

Good question. When choosing 00800 I am presented something else (00232). Interestingly choosing 0850 picks another one (00290). But BDInfo says it is the same m2ts. Strange that I (or someone else) had such an issue after a large number of backups.
BTW Same result with INI entry "Process 3D Video sources as 2D for backup" set off (IGNORE_3D=0). In that case only "3D" is shown in the VID...line.

INFO: The main movie is not in 3D. It's just some extras on the disc that are.

I made some screenshots.

ggtop

[jdobbs]

That makes no sense. BD-RB reads the M2TS information directly from the MPLS. I've never seen, nor have I previously had a report of BD-RB reading the disc information incorrectly. The MPLS info in the dialog even has the correct time for the movie.

There has to be some voodoo magic at play here.

[Lathe]

That makes no sense. BD-RB reads the M2TS information directly from the MPLS. I've never seen, nor have I previously had a report of BD-RB reading the disc information incorrectly. The MPLS info in the dialog even has the correct time for the movie.

There has to be some voodoo magic at play here.

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/voodoo.gif

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

@Jdobbs and others interested. I have an update on that issue where i was unable to get Intel QuickSync to work with BDRB while having my GTX 1080 being used for actual display...

:thanks:

Just wanted to add my thanks for this post. I had been lazy and never got around to getting QuickSync to work along with discrete graphics on my system. Now it's working. Actually a lot easier & quicker than I anticipated. Nice to have it when/if I need it.

[Ch3vr0n]

When i got my mind set to do something, you can bet your ass i'll try every damn method i can find. Even if it's in some obsure post i only found on 1 site. Turned out to be the working one too. Just a note though, after i attached that dummy plug. My main monitor no longer showed the ROG logo upon boot (applies to accessing bios too), no screen until lock screen. Seems like the onboard hdmi takes priority over that. Plug the monitor into that one and yup, visuals. But hardware decoding/encoding at least on my end currently results in severe artifacts.

So if the potentially artifact resolving tweak above doesn't fix the glitching, i'll disable QS again in the bios. I can live with a slower encode, i can't live with video artifacts :)