BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

@steveg32

I picked up SKYLINE (since that's one of the discs you reported as having sync issues). I've loaded your INI into my system and will run it today. I'll report the results. Well "Skyline" completed -- and it is 100% in-sync, and I encoded it with the exact same settings as you. This seems to be the pattern for this. Other's report sync problems, and when I run the exact same movie it works fine for me. It's really frustrating because there are several people who have reported sync issues on DVD output -- and I can't find a single disc with issues. Are you using the exact versions of FFDSHOW, HAALI, and AVISYNTH that are recommended in the first post of this thread?

I see that you're using Windows XP and I'm using Windows 7 -- but I can't see why that would matter.

What codec do you have selected for AVC in FFDSHOW? I'm using "ffmpeg-mt"... although I don't think it makes a difference either.

Are you using an original commercial disc as the source? What did you use to rip it? I used AnyDVD HD (v6.8.0.0).

What are you using for playback? Is it a standalone player?

How far off is the sync? A half second is a long time -- is it close?

Just a note: The output was undersized by quite a bit -- but that is normal because the resulting bitrate would have been too high if it tried to fill the disc (over 11Mbs, way too high for DVD, it's because the movie isn't very long).

[steveg32]

@jdobbs

Well "Skyline" completed -- and it is 100% in-sync, and I encoded it with the exact same settings as you. This seems to be the pattern for this. Other's report sync problems, and when I run the exact same movie it works fine for me. It's really frustrating because there are several people who have reported sync issues on DVD output -- and I can't find a single disc with issues. Are you using the exact versions of FFDSHOW, HAALI, and AVISYNTH that are recommended in the first post of this thread?

I see that you're using Windows XP and I'm using Windows 7 -- but I can't see why that would matter.

What codec do you have selected for AVC in FFDSHOW? I'm using "ffmpeg-mt"... although I don't think it makes a difference either.

Are you using an original commercial disc as the source? What did you use to rip it? I used AnyDVD HD (v6.8.0.0).

What are you using for playback? Is it a standalone player?

How far off is the sync? A half second is a long time -- is it close?

Just a note: The output was undersized by quite a bit -- but that is normal because the resulting bitrate would have been too high if it tried to fill the disc (over 11Mbs, way too high for DVD, it's because the movie isn't very long).

Yes, I am using the exact versions of FFDSHOW, HAALI, and AVISYNTH that are recommended in the first post of this thread. I always uninstall and default reinstall all 3 with each new version of BD-Rebuilder, then run Inspect.exe to make sure all is OK.

H.264/AVC is enabled (libavcodec) in FFDSHOW (I think this answers your question "What codec do you have selected for AVC in FFDSHOW? I'm using "ffmpeg-mt"...").

I used an original commercial disc as the source. I also used AnyDVD HD (v6.8.0.0) to rip it.

I use CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra version 7.3 for PC playback. My Blu-ray standalone is a Pioneer BDP-121 Blu-ray Disc Player. My DVD standalones are JVC DR-MV79B 1080p HD-Upconverting DVD-VCR Combo Recorder; and a LiteOn LVW-5045 HDD & DVD Recorder.

The sync is at least a half second long (very noticeable). Note: In all three attempts for Jackass 3 (1x @ DVD-5 Theatrical, 1x @ DVD-5 Director's Cut, & 1x @ DVD-9 Director's Cut), the movie starts out of sync then goes completely in sync till the end (at running time ?, Chapter ? - damn I already trashed it & overwrote the DVD - sorry). Skyline was out of sync from start to end. :confused: Btw, my Skyline B-r to BD-25 backup had no sync issues so I doubt it was a bad rip.

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Fyi, I'm not sure if BD-Reb's DVD Output auto overides Target Size in Settings, but if I do not select DVD-5 in Settings>Output Options>Target Size BD-5 (DVD-5), BD-Reb creates a DVD size that ImgBurn says is too big to burn to DVD-5 (it's close but still too large). Found this out when I left Target Size at BD-25. Didn't try DVD-9 so I don't know if results would be same with ImgBurn.

Also fyi, all titles I've listed with these issues have had no sync issues when I convert B-r to DVD using AVS Video Converter 7.0

Mahalo for all you do jdobbs. Go Silverswords! :)

[HatchetMan]

I have updated the first post of this thread with an updated version of BD-RB (v0.38.02).
A flawless full backup of HP5 to BD25, thanks!

[jdobbs]

Fyi, I'm not sure if BD-Reb's DVD Output auto overides Target Size in Settings, but if I do not select DVD-5 in Settings>Output Options>Target Size BD-5 (DVD-5), BD-Reb creates a DVD size that ImgBurn says is too big to burn to DVD-5 (it's close but still too large). Found this out when I left Target Size at BD-25. Didn't try DVD-9 so I don't know if results would be same with ImgBurn. The sizes selected for BD output are ignored. It's only the size you select from the ALTERNATE output list that matter for DVD output. However, even if you select DVD-9 you will only get a little less than 5GB for output. That's because the movie is only an hour and a half -- and you are maxing the bitrate.

In the INI you posted you have ALTERNATE/DVD selected for DVD-9 sizing. That's why it won't fit on a DVD-5.

[steveg32]

The sizes selected for BD output are ignored. It's only the size you select from the ALTERNATE output list that matter for DVD output. However, even if you select DVD-9 you will only get a little less than 5GB for output. That's because the movie is only an hour and a half -- and you are maxing the bitrate.

In the INI you posted you have ALTERNATE/DVD selected for DVD-9 sizing. That's why it won't fit on a DVD-5.

@jdobbs

Re: The sizes selected for BD output are ignored.

Yes, I realize DVD-9 sizing won't fit on a DVD-5 (I believe I previously mentioned I did not try burning my DVD-9 output with ImgBurn). I only played it back with PowerDVD and saw the same sync issues as my DVD-5 size playbacks.

Nonetheless, I am doing Jackass 3 again set for DVD-5 sizing. I purposely selected Target Size to BD-25 in Output Options to show how BD-Reb creates a DVD-5 size that ImgBurn says is too big to burn to a DVD-5. I will post results & screen shots when complete. Til then Aloha jdobbs.

[omegaman7]

I hate doing this, but I gotta ask. I usually use virtualdub Mod, for finding exact frames of Dvd/avi files. It apparently doesn't like M2TS files. Unless my version is severely outdated. Probably...
TMT3 can still Blu ray frames, but finding the exact frame every time would be challenging to say the least. Is there a program that I could use to accomplish this? I'm experiencing pixelation(darker scenery), in some of the outputs, and in order to post comparisons of my findings, I'm gonna need to find a program that can do this. I will of course continue my search for one, but I always welcome opinions/suggestions.

[PurpleMan]

I hate doing this, but I gotta ask. I usually use virtualdub Mod, for finding exact frames of Dvd/avi files. It apparently doesn't like M2TS files. Unless my version is severely outdated. Probably...
TMT3 can still Blu ray frames, but finding the exact frame every time would be challenging to say the least. Is there a program that I could use to accomplish this? I'm experiencing pixelation(darker scenery), in some of the outputs, and in order to post comparisons of my findings, I'm gonna need to find a program that can do this. I will of course continue my search for one, but I always welcome opinions/suggestions.

Just create an avisynth script and load into virtualdub. Install avisynth 2.5 or later, create a text file named "whatever.avs", and type the following lines:

DirectShowSource("c:\path\filename.mt2s")
converttorgb()

save the file and load the .avs into virtualdub.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Re: The sizes selected for BD output are ignored.

Yes, I realize DVD-9 sizing won't fit on a DVD-5 (I believe I previously mentioned I did not try burning my DVD-9 output with ImgBurn). I only played it back with PowerDVD and saw the same sync issues as my DVD-5 size playbacks.

Nonetheless, I am doing Jackass 3 again set for DVD-5 sizing. I purposely selected Target Size to BD-25 in Output Options to show how BD-Reb creates a DVD-5 size that ImgBurn says is too big to burn to a DVD-5. I will post results & screen shots when complete. Til then Aloha jdobbs. ??? So if you understand that sizes selected for BD output are ignored... why are you telling me that you are selecting "Target Size to BD-25 to show..." -- either you don't understand what I'm saying or I don't understand what you're saying.

[thegame]

Hi jdobbs, sorry up front for posting this question in this thread, but I didn't know where else to post it, and didn't want to start a new thread for such a simple question, first right up front I want to tell you this program is GREAT(I know I have said this before) I have had no issues whatsoever with any version you post(knocks on wood) but last night I did a project and noticed in the settings this,

"use open GOPs for encoding"

I am curious, what is the difference between encoding with open GOPS vs non open GOPs? does it affect quality?

Thanks for your time and GREAT software.

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs, sorry up front for posting this question in this thread, but I didn't know where else to post it, and didn't want to start a new thread for such a simple question, first right up front I want to tell you this program is GREAT(I know I have said this before) I have had no issues whatsoever with any version you post(knocks on wood) but last night I did a project and noticed in the settings this,

"use open GOPs for encoding"

I am curious, what is the difference between encoding with open GOPS vs non open GOPs? does it affect quality?

Thanks for your time and GREAT software. A closed GOP means that all dependencies/references are limited to a specific group of pictures. In BD-RB that would be either 24 frames or 48 frames depending upon bitrate. With open GOP the references can go across groups.

The upside to open GOPs is slightly better compression. The downside is dependencies outside of groups. I'd say that closed GOPs may have a bit of an advantage for broadcasting where there is a higher probability of data being lost -- but probably not so much for BD. So, generally it is probably better to use open GOPs. But don't expect to notice a huge difference in most cases.

[thegame]

A closed GOP means that all dependencies/references are limited to a specific group of pictures. In BD-RB that would be either 24 frames or 48 frames depending upon bitrate. With open GOP the references can go across groups.

The upside to open GOPs is slightly better compression. The downside is dependencies outside of groups. I'd say that closed GOPs may have a bit of an advantage for broadcasting where there is a higher probability of data being lost -- but probably not so much for BD. So, generally it is probably better to use open GOPs. But don't expect to notice a huge difference in most cases.

Thank you for the fast response, and explanation, I was also curious about that because I do a lot of x264 encoding and was having issues with chapter points(actually still am) and someone had mentioned that open GOPs vs non open might be the issue, I have been using the default setting of open and my chapter points don't all line up on my forced I-Frame, so back to BD-RB, so should that be ticked then and not the default un ticked? or just leave it alone?

Thanks again

[jdobbs]

Thank you for the fast response, and explanation, I was also curious about that because I do a lot of x264 encoding and was having issues with chapter points(actually still am) and someone had mentioned that open GOPs vs non open might be the issue, I have been using the default setting of open and my chapter points don't all line up on my forced I-Frame, so back to BD-RB, so should that be ticked then and not the default un ticked? or just leave it alone?

Thanks again It shouldn't be an issue if chapter points are set within X264 (which BD-RB does). I would think specifying a chapter point would force a closed GOP there. I tick it -- but as I said, don't expect a huge difference.

[Added] Well, that assumption isn't entirely correct. Here are the rules from wth X264 Wiki:qpfile
Manual override to standard ratecontrol. Specify a file that gives the quantizer and frametype for
specifiedframes. The format is 'framenum frametype quantizer'. For example:

0 I 18 < IDR (key) I-frame
1 P 18 < P-frame
2 B 18 < Referenced B-frame
3 i 18 < Non-IDR (non-key) I-frame
4 b 18 < Non-referenced B-frame
5 K 18 < Keyframe*

You don't need to specify every frame

Using -1 as the desired quantizer allows x264 to choose the optimal quantizer value, useful when
only needing toset the frametype . Having a large number of specified frame types and quantizers
while still letting x264 choose intermittently decreases x264's performance. 'Keyframe' is a generic
keyframe/seekpoint type that equates to a IDR I-Frame if --open-gop is none, otherwise it
equates to a Non-IDR I-Frame flagged with the Recovery Point SEI

[omegaman7]

@Purpleman, thanks! I'm very green when it comes to scripting. Which isn't good, considering I want to program one day. Gotta start somewhere I suppose ;) It works perfectly. You have yourself a wonderful day. You just made mine! :D

See, I'd like to compare the speed settings. It's possible, that setting the speeds higher/faster produces a less than desirable output quality. Of course this is logically true, but I was informed a while back, that the difference should be negligible...

[steveg32]

??? So if you understand that sizes selected for BD output are ignored... why are you telling me that you are selecting "Target Size to BD-25 to show..." -- either you don't understand what I'm saying or I don't understand what you're saying.

@jdobbs

My understanding is if BD output is ignored then it should not matter what Target Size is ticked in Settings>Output Options. So, if I tick Alternate Output to be "DVD-5, 720X480/576, AC Audio", my resulting DVD-5 size should be 4686086144 or approximately 4.36 GB, even if BD-25 is ticked in Settings>Output Options? If your answer to this is yes then why, in my described scenario, is my resulting DVD-5 size 4.41 GB (which ImgBurn states is too large to write to a DVD-5)?

Let me start over by asking 1 simple question:

If I select Movie-only Alternate Output to be "DVD-5, 720X480/576, AC Audio", should I also select "Target Size BD-5 (DVD-5)" in Settings>Output Options?

Mahalo for your patience & understanding in this matter.

[omegaman7]

Well, I'm afraid that won't work. I copied frame 42702 from Chronicles of narnia VOTDT, and the aspect ratio is wrong, and the numbered frames are erratic. What I mean by that is, If I grab 42702 at one moment, close the program and load it again, it'll be a different frame next time. So much for that. THanks anyway ;)

I'm an idiot. The aspect ratio is fine. I wasn't acknowledging my PC's Native 1920 x 1200 resolution. THe bars on top and bottom are normal on my screen. I suppose It's normal for most screens though. Even 16:9 screens. I wish they'd just pick a ratio... It's not right when a 16:9 tv has bars on top and bottom. In my opinion anyway. The frame numbers seem to vary though.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

My understanding is if BD output is ignored then it should not matter what Target Size is ticked in Settings>Output Options. So, if I tick Alternate Output to be "DVD-5, 720X480/576, AC Audio", my resulting DVD-5 size should be 4686086144 or approximately 4.36 GB, even if BD-25 is ticked in Settings>Output Options? If your answer to this is yes then why, in my described scenario, is my resulting DVD-5 size 4.41 GB (which ImgBurn states is too large to write to a DVD-5)?

Let me start over by asking 1 simple question:

If I select Movie-only Alternate Output to be "DVD-5, 720X480/576, AC Audio", should I also select "Target Size BD-5 (DVD-5)" in Settings>Output Options?

Mahalo for your patience & understanding in this matter. If you select "DVD-5, 720X480/576, AC Audio" -- it really doesn't matter what you select under Settings/Output Options. That setting is for normal processing -- ALTERNATE output is processed differently. In fact it is an entirely different set of routines.

The only exception to that rule is a check BD-RB does that warns when output won't fit -- I've been meaning to disable that for ALTERNATE output, but I keep forgetting.

Output from "DVD-5, 720X480/576, AC Audio" is targeted at between 4.20 - 4.30GB (I purposely avoid outer edges due to a tendency for a lot of discs to be weak there). I've never seen one oversize. I can say, though, that the ouput from the settings you posted (that I used for testing) were about 4.50GB -- but that was because "DVD-9, 720X480/576, AC Audio" was selected and the movie was too short to allow that high a bitrate.

[steveg32]

If you select "DVD-5, 720X480/576, AC Audio" -- it really doesn't matter what you select under Settings/Output Options. That setting is for normal processing -- ALTERNATE output is processed differently. In fact it is an entirely different set of routines.

The only exception to that rule is a check BD-RB does that warns when output won't fit -- I've been meaning to disable that for ALTERNATE output, but I keep forgetting.

Output from "DVD-5, 720X480/576, AC Audio" is targeted at between 4.20 - 4.30GB (I purposely avoid outer edges due to a tendency for a lot of discs to be weak there). I've never seen one oversize. I can say, though, that the ouput from the settings you posted (that I used for testing) were about 4.50GB -- but that was because "DVD-9, 720X480/576, AC Audio" was selected and the movie was too short to allow that high a bitrate.

@jdobbs

Storage Media "safe size" limits:

74 min Cd-Rom (650mb) = 681574400
80 (703mb) = 737148928
120 Dvd-R (4464mb)= 4680843264

..std dvdrom media stating "4.7 gig" is misleading as the lead in and lead out space required gobbles some of this
..so the 'common consensus' out there is make max write space limit the 4464 megabytes for Std Dvd Media.

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"BD-Reb" default target size for "DVD-5 MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT" mode is 4686086144.

Q: 4686086144 bytes = ? megabytes
A: 4469 megabytes (4.3642578125 gigabytes)

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If you change the default DVD-5 Target Size to 4680843264 (4464 MB), voila, no more oversize burning issues with ImgBurn or any other DVD burning software. Especially when burning to DVD+RW discs.

Please see my next post and screen shots. Mahalo for all you do jdobbs.

[omegaman7]

A dvd-r can handle closer to 4481Mb. Taiyo Yuden anyway. I trust them on the outer edge. THat really is pushing it though. I agree with Jdobbs on this one. I've experimented quite a bit on this. Dvd +R's hold even less. 4470 - 4472 I believe. The difference in video quality really is negligible when talking 30Mb...

I'll be re-encoding Chronicles of narnia at the slowest setting, to see if the difference is apparent. If it is, I'll no longer be using the faster/fastest settings. Pinpointing the exact frame is apparently gonna be slightly challenging :(

[steveg32]

??? So if you understand that sizes selected for BD output are ignored... why are you telling me that you are selecting "Target Size to BD-25 to show..." -- either you don't understand what I'm saying or I don't understand what you're saying.

@jdobbs

Here's the DVD-5, 720X480/576, AC3 Audio redo I did for Jackass 3:

Note: Sync issues start at beginning of movie and occurs until approx running time 00:30:15. Then I noticed a glitch at approx 00:30:16 (in Chapter 16 of 49). Following the glitch the sync issues end and the rest of the movie is in complete sync from 00:30:20 through the end of the movie (01:39:38).

Here's the INI:

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.2
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=1
ALTCRF=20
ALT_TARGET=1000
ALTMETHOD=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
ENCODER=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=H:\BD-REBUILDER\DVD-5, 720X480_576, AC3 AUDIO\
SOURCE_PATH=H:\ANYDVD HD BLU-RAY RIPS\JACKASS_3\

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Here's the INF:

[Status]
LABEL=JACKASS_3
VERSION=v0.38.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24442490880
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24442490880
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=1.00814340571823
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=1
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=15
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00246]
AUDIO=0001
PGS=10000
M2TS_TARGET=7495213615
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00261]
M2TS_TARGET=922316302
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00248]
M2TS_TARGET=4243482514
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00262]
M2TS_TARGET=354651752
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00250]
M2TS_TARGET=2078321085
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00263]
M2TS_TARGET=362078398
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00252]
M2TS_TARGET=662241241
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00264]
M2TS_TARGET=241418634
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00254]
M2TS_TARGET=585137917
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00265]
M2TS_TARGET=171946358
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00256]
M2TS_TARGET=598046282
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00266]
M2TS_TARGET=505265861
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00258]
M2TS_TARGET=4121063644
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00267]
M2TS_TARGET=182996513
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00260]
M2TS_TARGET=2117355882
AUDIO=0001
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

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Here's the LOG:

[20:37:57] BD Rebuilder v0.38.02 (beta)
- Source: JACKASS_3
- Input BD size: 22.76 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:39:44.561]
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:37:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:37:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00246]
- [20:59:01] Reencoding: VID_00246 (1 of 15)
- [20:59:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 43,582 frames
- Bitrate: 5,594 Kbs
- [20:59:01] Reencoding: VID_00246
- [22:16:53] Video Encode complete
- [22:16:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:22:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:22:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00261]
- [22:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00261 (2 of 15)
- [22:23:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,511 frames
- Bitrate: 5,432 Kbs
- [22:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00261
- [22:33:44] Video Encode complete
- [22:33:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:33:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00248]
- [22:38:01] Reencoding: VID_00248 (3 of 15)
- [22:38:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24,621 frames
- Bitrate: 5,607 Kbs
- [22:38:01] Reencoding: VID_00248
- [23:23:20] Video Encode complete
- [23:23:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:23:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00262]
- [23:23:44] Reencoding: VID_00262 (4 of 15)
- [23:23:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,105 frames
- Bitrate: 5,471 Kbs
- [23:23:44] Reencoding: VID_00262
- [23:27:38] Video Encode complete
- [23:27:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:27:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00250]
- [23:29:44] Reencoding: VID_00250 (5 of 15)
- [23:29:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,167 frames
- Bitrate: 5,553 Kbs
- [23:29:44] Reencoding: VID_00250
- [23:53:34] Video Encode complete
- [23:53:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:53:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00263]
- [23:53:57] Reencoding: VID_00263 (6 of 15)
- [23:53:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,131 frames
- Bitrate: 5,522 Kbs
- [23:53:57] Reencoding: VID_00263
- [23:57:50] Video Encode complete
- [23:57:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:57:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00252]
- [23:58:29] Reencoding: VID_00252 (7 of 15)
- [23:58:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,873 frames
- Bitrate: 5,559 Kbs
- [23:58:29] Reencoding: VID_00252
- [00:05:47] Video Encode complete
- [00:05:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:05:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00264]
- [00:06:02] Reencoding: VID_00264 (8 of 15)
- [00:06:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,424 frames
- Bitrate: 5,508 Kbs
- [00:06:02] Reencoding: VID_00264
- [00:08:30] Video Encode complete
- [00:08:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:08:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00254]
- [00:09:06] Reencoding: VID_00254 (9 of 15)
- [00:09:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,390 frames
- Bitrate: 5,616 Kbs
- [00:09:06] Reencoding: VID_00254
- [00:15:26] Video Encode complete
- [00:15:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:15:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00265]
- [00:15:38] Reencoding: VID_00265 (10 of 15)
- [00:15:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,009 frames
- Bitrate: 5,539 Kbs
- [00:15:38] Reencoding: VID_00265
- [00:17:31] Video Encode complete
- [00:17:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:17:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00256]
- [00:18:07] Reencoding: VID_00256 (11 of 15)
- [00:18:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,498 frames
- Bitrate: 5,559 Kbs
- [00:18:07] Reencoding: VID_00256
- [00:24:32] Video Encode complete
- [00:24:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:24:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00266]
- [00:25:03] Reencoding: VID_00266 (12 of 15)
- [00:25:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,980 frames
- Bitrate: 5,509 Kbs
- [00:25:03] Reencoding: VID_00266
- [00:30:08] Video Encode complete
- [00:30:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:30:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00258]
- [00:34:50] Reencoding: VID_00258 (13 of 15)
- [00:34:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 23,914 frames
- Bitrate: 5,606 Kbs
- [00:34:50] Reencoding: VID_00258
- [01:18:28] Video Encode complete
- [01:18:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:18:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00267]
- [01:18:39] Reencoding: VID_00267 (14 of 15)
- [01:18:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,050 frames
- Bitrate: 5,675 Kbs
- [01:18:39] Reencoding: VID_00267
- [01:20:26] Video Encode complete
- [01:20:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:20:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00260]
- [01:22:37] Reencoding: VID_00260 (15 of 15)
- [01:22:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,231 frames
- Bitrate: 5,634 Kbs
- [01:22:37] Reencoding: VID_00260
- [01:43:35] Video Encode complete
- [01:43:35] Multiplexing M2TS
[01:43:35]PHASE ONE complete
[01:43:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00246 [1 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00261 [2 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00248 [3 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00262 [4 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00250 [5 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00263 [6 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00252 [7 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00264 [8 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00254 [9 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00265 [10 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00256 [11 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00266 [12 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00258 [13 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00267 [14 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Rebuilding stream 00260 [15 of 15]
- [01:43:35] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [01:47:59] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [01:48:39] Starting MPLEX.
- [01:55:40] Multiplexing 1 subtitles into stream.
- [02:01:16] Building DVD File Structure.
[02:08:11] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[02:08:11]JOB: JACKASS_3 finished.

----------------------------

Mahalo for all you do jdobbs.

Here's the screen shots (in particular see # 11):

[jdobbs]

@steveg32

Something is causing an oversize and sync issues in your case -- I'll pick up "Jackass 3" and see what I can find.

[Edit] When I read back my original comment I sounded like an arrogant prick. It doesn't really bother me to be one -- but I don't lke to sound like it. So I've edited it. :)

[omegaman7]

It would appear that this particular scene has some slight artifacting to the left of the Rat on even the original/source video as well(Dark scenery). However smoother. The difference in all 3 appears to be minor. I do find there to be a fairly substantial difference between Faster and slowest settings. I'll likely be choosing Slowest output option from now on. Unless something doesn't require much compression ;) It would appear that the Jpg container introduced some moderate artifacting. use your imagination :p

Rather strange about the frame numbers. Not sure how that could happen :confused:

Here's the Original capture. Frame number 42673.
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5398/42673original.th.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/42673original.jpg/)
Here's a capture of the "Slowest" output speed. Frame number 42702.
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9953/42702slowest.th.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/42702slowest.jpg/)
Here's a capture of the "Faster" output speed. Frame number 42702.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5051/42702faster.th.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/42702faster.jpg/)

[jdobbs]

If you have blocking, it wouldn't be unusual for it to be slightly amplified in the reencode. That's because the encoder doesn't know it isn't supposed to be there -- and tries its best to reproduce it. But, honestly I don't really see it in your pictures (at least not on this computer).

I'd recommend in the future that you use PNG... JPG always introduces it's own version of the picture that can distort comparisons. PNG is lossless.

[omegaman7]

LOL, I realize PNG is lossless, but it would also eat bandwidth. The encoder does do a pretty good job reproducing it. It's just something I'll/we'll have to deal with. I really do need a new monitor :(
Any thoughts on how the frames from the output could be off numerically from the original?

[jdobbs]

LOL, I realize PNG is lossless, but it would also eat bandwidth. The encoder does do a pretty good job reproducing it. It's just something I'll/we'll have to deal with. I really do need a new monitor :(
Any thoughts on how the frames from the output could be off numerically from the original? Hmmm... the frame number mismatch is interesting. It's very, very close to the difference you'd expect between a 24fps source and a 23.976fps source for the same point in time -- close enough that I have to wonder about it. What disc is this?

[omegaman7]

Chronicles of narnia: Voyage of the dawn treader. region 1/A.

[jdobbs]

Chronicles of narnia: Voyage of the dawn treader. region 1/A. Hmmm... I think I still have that one on my hard drive. I think I may play with it a little and see what's up. You never know when some seemingly unimportant little glitch will turn up something unexpected.

[jdobbs]

@steveg32

Just loaded your settings into BD-Rebuilder (from your post) and ran "Jackass 3" -- it created a perfectly synched DVD that was 4.28GB.

I don't know what to say. But I'm using the exact same BD-RB and the exact same source disc you are and it works 100% correctly. That seems to just leave your computer, your settings, or your playback method. Something is different. Have you burned it to a blank DVD and played it back on a standalone player?

Frankly I'm not sure what else I can do?

[[SLiM]D12]

Just did an encode, Stand By Me R1 using BD-25 as size setting and it came out as 11GB. Not sure what went wrong. I've literally done HUNDREDS of backups and this being the first issue. Not sure what i need to provide, but plz let me know.

Thx
[SLiM]

[jdobbs]

D12;1502388']Just did an encode, Stand By Me R1 using BD-25 as size setting and it came out as 11GB. Not sure what went wrong. I've literally done HUNDREDS of backups and this being the first issue. Not sure what i need to provide, but plz let me know.

Thx
[SLiM] The most likely reason is that the original was 11GB (after removing unwanted audio) and BD-RB kept it intact (because it would fit as-is). It's never a good idea to reencode when it isn't necessary.

[1Bullet]

Prince of Persia, I have been reading all the posts on this movie in searches.
Looks more like the issues are with the film.
The movie is one hell of a test for BD Rebuilder.
Using windows 7 64bit ultimate.
I ripped the my Disc with DVDFab 8 however when I tried to do a movie only BD RB 0.38.32 was still scanning file 15 minutes later. It did the same thing with BD RB 0.37.07 as well.
I shut down BD rebuilder in task manager and restarted it again. Because BD rebuilder was trying to re open at the last file (prince of persia) it hung on opening. I moved the file to another location and then I could get BD RB opened.
Doing full back up will open after about a 5 minute scan with well over 250 files.
I did a movie only with DVDfab and the main movie was 139 video files. BD reduilder had issues opening the main movie that I had just ripped with DVDfab( I was just testing as main movie under 25 GB).
This is not an issue with my system as in my last post. Turn out to be either Power Dvd 11 or Total Media 5 had updated my Avisynth to 2.5.8.0 causing X264 to freeze.
Just a suggestion, maybe BD rebuilder should not remember last file opened.

[omegaman7]

Well...You can intervene this. Simply open the BDREBUILDER.INI file as TXT, delete the source directory and start fresh. ;) I had to do this once. Forget what the circumstances were :p

[steveg32]

@steveg32

Just loaded your settings into BD-Rebuilder (from your post) and ran "Jackass 3" -- it created a perfectly synched DVD that was 4.28GB.

I don't know what to say. But I'm using the exact same BD-RB and the exact same source disc you are and it works 100% correctly. That seems to just leave your computer, your settings, or your playback method. Something is different. Have you burned it to a blank DVD and played it back on a standalone player?

Frankly I'm not sure what else I can do?

@jdobbs

Yes I did burn to blank DVDs and the sync issues appeared on all my previously listed standalones. Oh well, can't win them all. Guess I'll continue to convert B-r to DVD using "AVS Converter 7.0". For some reason that program has never given me sync issues when converting B-r to DVD :confused: Only drawback is that it converts any HD, DTS, 7.1, 5.1 type audio to 2 Channel Stereo. :mad:

No pilikia jdobbs. Mahalo for all your kokua. I really appreciate it. U still da man in my book! My B-r backups are always flawless thanks to you. Aloha, brah :)

[omegaman7]

I've converted at least 6 Bd's to Dvd. I had no sync issues. I'm as curious as you are though. It's highly rare that I see the need to convert to dvd though. I love HD :D I do however understand the need to do it ;)

[[SLiM]D12]

The most likely reason is that the original was 11GB (after removing unwanted audio) and BD-RB kept it intact (because it would fit as-is). It's never a good idea to reencode when it isn't necessary.

I'm not sure i understand. The original BD was 29 GB in size, and i didn't do anything different in BD-RB, it just came out that much smaller.....

[RobertM]

If you are saying that the entire disc was originally 29GB then that can contain all kinds of stuff, including the "extras", such as outtakes, previews and directorial comments.

It you are saying that only the original m2ts stream (usually the biggest file in the "stream" folder) is 29GB, then that can include multiple audio and subtitle streams.

Either way, the most likely reason is that the original video content on the disc is ACTUALLY only 11GB (or a little less) once all of the other stuff is removed.

You can test this by looking at the BD-Rebuilder log file. When it gets to the stage where it wants to re-encode the video, does it ACTUALLY do any re-encoding, or does it just keep the original? The log file will say what it has done. If it just keeps the original then you can be assured that your rebuild contains the exact same video data that was on the original disc.

Regards,
Bob

[jdobbs]

D12;1502456']I'm not sure i understand. The original BD was 29 GB in size, and i didn't do anything different in BD-RB, it just came out that much smaller..... You need to post your log -- then I can tell you for sure.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Yes I did burn to blank DVDs and the sync issues appeared on all my previously listed standalones. Oh well, can't win them all. Guess I'll continue to convert B-r to DVD using "AVS Converter 7.0". For some reason that program has never given me sync issues when converting B-r to DVD :confused: Only drawback is that it converts any HD, DTS, 7.1, 5.1 type audio to 2 Channel Stereo. :mad:

No pilikia jdobbs. Mahalo for all your kokua. I really appreciate it. U still da man in my book! My B-r backups are always flawless thanks to you. Aloha, brah :) I really wish I could figure out why it isn't working for you. I've gotten a couple of other similar reports -- while it seems to be working correctly for the majority of users.

There has to be some common thread... but findng it has become a pain in the okole... :)

[jdobbs]

@steveg32

Something is causing an oversize and sync issues in your case -- I'll pick up "Jackass 3" and see what I can find.

[Edit] When I read back my original comment I sounded like an arrogant prick. It doesn't really bother me to be one -- but I don't lke to sound like it. So I've edited it. :) I was just reviewing the two INF files and noticed that they aren't matching. Did you choose an alternate playlist when you did Jackass?

[KillingTime]

I got a couple of donations on Sunday so I've ordered Heartbreak Ridge (couldn't find it locally). I should be able to test it in a couple days. Can you post your .INI file? I have to make sure I'm using the same setup as you so I can repeat your issue.

I appreciate your offer -- but honestly I'd rather work with donations and make my own choices as to when, where, and what discs I test. Thanks, though. :)

OK.

The ini file was posted with the original report here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=591

I've linked to it rater than reposting to avoid duplication.

Also, I've just noticed that errors in raw source material caused by optical read errors can force the audio to jump out of sync with the video. This is not the fault of BDRebuilder as you don't write the mpeg encoding engine, and I'm not sure if there's anything you can do to detect this, but the log file on a recent rebuild of 'Flags of Our Fathers
' reported success when there were obviously probs. The source video jumped once or twice, and BDRebuilder video output went white for a few seconds in the same place. The audio was out of sync from that point forward. The obvious solution is to clean the disc and try again. This could be what has happened with Heartbreak Ridge, but if it is, I can't see where the problem is on the source material, and cleaning the disc has not changed anything.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

OK.

The ini file was posted with the original report here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=591

I've linked to it rater than reposting to avoid duplication.

Also, I've just noticed that errors in raw source material caused by optical read errors can force the audio to jump out of sync with the video. This is not the fault of BDRebuilder as you don't write the mpeg encoding engine, and I'm not sure if there's anything you can do to detect this, but the log file on a recent rebuild of 'Flags of Our Fathers
' reported success when there were obviously probs. The source video jumped once or twice, and BDRebuilder video output went white for a few seconds in the same place. The audio was out of sync from that point forward. The obvious solution is to clean the disc and try again. This could be what has happened with Heartbreak Ridge, but if it is, I can't see where the problem is on the source material, and cleaning the disc has not changed anything.

Thanks. Heartbreak Ridge got delivered yesterday (I ordered it online), but I haven't run it yet. There shouldn't be errors reading -- as the reading software should pick that up via CRC errors. I've never had any issues of that type with AnyDVD HD.

Also, the post in your link doesn't contain the INI file. That is the LOG and the INF file. The INI is called BDREBUILDER.INI and is located in the installation folder. It contains all the saved settings.

[Sharc]

I ran some tests and have found this issue. It appears that the "End of Display" segment on the clearing portion of the subtitle display in the example you gave me isn't using the same time as the "Window Defiinition Segment" for that action. I think it is something peculiar to the way TSMUXER writes it (when it does the resizing) -- as I'd never seen that before in my testing.

Anyway, I've fixed it for the next release.
Will the fix be applied to the 720p downsized sup, or would I have to redo everything from scratch starting from the original 1080p disc?

[omegaman7]

I've ripped lots of discs. BD and DVD. I've had 2 lite-on drives that will ignore read errors. My current iHES108 drive is one of them. The other was an iHAP424.

@killingtime, is this disc translucent? I've also had trouble in the past, with discs like that. Really rather an ignorant design. The technology employs a light/eye/beam, and then they make a disc, that light can travel through. Genius... :rolleyes:

[jdobbs]

Will the fix be applied to the 720p downsized sup, or would I have to redo everything from scratch starting from the original 1080p disc? The fix will take care of it from the 720 downsized SUP, so you don't have to redo anything. BD-RB just takes the timing from the clearing Windows-Definition-Segment instead. But just as an FYI, as of a couple versions ago BD-RB doesn't use TSMUXER for resizing SUPs anymore (because it has a tendency to fail sometimes). BD-RB does the resize itself. So that oddity in the timestamp of the End-of-Display-Segment is gone from that point on.

[A.Fenderson]

Also, I've just noticed that errors in raw source material caused by optical read errors can force the audio to jump out of sync with the video
...
The source video jumped once or twice, and BDRebuilder video output went white for a few seconds in the same place. The audio was out of sync from that point forward. The obvious solution is to clean the disc and try again. This could be what has happened with Heartbreak Ridge, but if it is, I can't see where the problem is on the source material, and cleaning the disc has not changed anything.

I've had this happen as well, and while the issue is very manifest on playback of the rebuild, it can be very difficult to see any visible artifacts during playback of the rip it's based on: I only saw them once I identified the exact moment the rebuild messed up, then went back frame-by-frame, examining each in detail: I eventually found very small areas of flat-colored macroblocks on just a couple of frames. In my case, cleaning and reripping worked eventually, but I actually ended up ripping with a newer BD drive just to be sure. Never did AnyDVD-HD (ripping program) or BD-RB report an error while ripping/rebuilding the corrupted file.

I don't know if it's feasible, and somehow doubt it is, but some check on the integrity of the original video stream may help eliminate this problem with bad rips.

[jdobbs]

I've had this happen as well, and while the issue is very manifest on playback of the rebuild, it can be very difficult to see any visible artifacts during playback of the rip it's based on: I only saw them once I identified the exact moment the rebuild messed up, then went back frame-by-frame, examining each in detail: I eventually found very small areas of flat-colored macroblocks on just a couple of frames. In my case, cleaning and reripping worked eventually, but I actually ended up ripping with a newer BD drive just to be sure. Never did AnyDVD-HD (ripping program) or BD-RB report an error while ripping/rebuilding the corrupted file.

I don't know if it's feasible, and somehow doubt it is, but some check on the integrity of the original video stream may help eliminate this problem with bad rips. That would be virtually impossible. A frame-by-frame examination would take as long as an encode. Interesting, though, that in a couple thousand encodes I've never seen it. I guess I've been lucky with my drives.

[omegaman7]

That would be virtually impossible. A frame-by-frame examination would take as long as an encode. Interesting, though, that in a couple thousand encodes I've never seen it. I guess I've been lucky with my drives.
A cool computer case helps ;) Most cases have pretty dire cooling...

[[SLiM]D12]

Re-encoded again using custom size, was 7GB this time.........here's the log:


[12:13:28] BD Rebuilder v0.37.08 (beta)
- Source: STAND_BY_ME
- Input BD size: 29.25 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:42:11.511]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:13:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:13:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [12:13:29] Reencoding: VID_00021 (1 of 14)
- [12:13:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [12:13:29] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:13:30] Video Encode complete
- [12:13:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:13:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:13:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [12:13:35] Reencoding: VID_00081 (2 of 14)
- [12:13:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
- [12:13:35] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:13:50] Video Encode complete
- [12:13:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:13:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:13:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [12:13:55] Reencoding: VID_00101 (3 of 14)
- [12:13:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- [12:13:55] Reencoding: VID_00101, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:14:10] Video Encode complete
- [12:14:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:14:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:14:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [12:14:16] Reencoding: VID_00104 (4 of 14)
- [12:14:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- [12:14:16] Reencoding: VID_00104, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:14:31] Video Encode complete
- [12:14:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:14:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:14:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00107]
- [12:14:40] Reencoding: VID_00107 (5 of 14)
- [12:14:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,040 frames
- [12:14:40] Reencoding: VID_00107, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:15:01] Video Encode complete
- [12:15:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:15:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:15:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- [12:15:10] Reencoding: VID_00108 (6 of 14)
- [12:15:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,451 frames
- [12:15:10] Reencoding: VID_00108, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:15:30] Video Encode complete
- [12:15:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:15:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:15:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [12:15:38] Reencoding: VID_00022 (7 of 14)
- [12:15:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,555 frames
- [12:15:38] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:16:01] Video Encode complete
- [12:16:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:16:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:16:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00109]
- [12:16:14] Reencoding: VID_00109 (8 of 14)
- [12:16:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,151 frames
- [12:16:14] Reencoding: VID_00109, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:16:55] Video Encode complete
- [12:16:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:16:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:16:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00113]
- [12:17:10] Reencoding: VID_00113 (9 of 14)
- [12:17:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,797 frames
- [12:17:10] Reencoding: VID_00113, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:18:05] Video Encode complete
- [12:18:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:18:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:18:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00110]
- [12:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00110 (10 of 14)
- [12:18:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,771 frames
- [12:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00110, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:19:14] Video Encode complete
- [12:19:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:19:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:19:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00111]
- [12:19:33] Reencoding: VID_00111 (11 of 14)
- [12:19:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,559 frames
- [12:19:33] Reencoding: VID_00111, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:20:53] Video Encode complete
- [12:20:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:20:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:20:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
- [12:21:28] Reencoding: VID_00105 (12 of 14)
- [12:21:28] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [12:21:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,712 frames
- [12:21:38] Reencoding: VID_00105, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:23:52] Video Encode complete
- [12:23:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:23:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:24:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- [12:25:38] Reencoding: VID_00106 (13 of 14)
- [12:25:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 66,135 frames
- [12:25:39] Reencoding: VID_00106, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:29:14] Video Encode complete
- [12:29:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:29:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:29:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [12:45:31] Reencoding: VID_00011 (14 of 14)
- [12:45:31] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [12:51:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 127,656 frames
- Bitrate: 23,952 Kbs
- [12:51:52] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:04:07] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:30:54] Video Encode complete
- [18:30:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:30:54] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:43:43]PHASE ONE complete
[18:43:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:43:43] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:44:07] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:44:07] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:48:43]JOB: STAND_BY_ME finished.

[A.Fenderson]

That would be virtually impossible. A frame-by-frame examination would take as long as an encode. Interesting, though, that in a couple thousand encodes I've never seen it. I guess I've been lucky with my drives.

Yeah, I didn't think it would be feasible, but thought I'd ask. I generally rip with my LiteOn (which was the cheapest BD-ROM drive I could get at the time I bought it), to save wear and tear on my nice Pioneer BD writer--I've had 2 bad rips with the LiteOn using AnyDVD-HD (always up-to-date), but reripping with the Pioneer, so far, hasn't given any issues. I hate to add the extra wear to my Pioneer, but I may have to start ripping with it to avoid these random and virtually undetectable bad rips.

[omegaman7]

Yeah, I didn't think it would be feasible, but thought I'd ask. I generally rip with my LiteOn (which was the cheapest BD-ROM drive I could get at the time I bought it), to save wear and tear on my nice Pioneer BD writer--I've had 2 bad rips with the LiteOn using AnyDVD-HD (always up-to-date), but reripping with the Pioneer, so far, hasn't given any issues. I hate to add the extra wear to my Pioneer, but I may have to start ripping with it to avoid these random and virtually undetectable bad rips.

I hear you. I really do LOL! My lite-on is guilty of a few bad rips. My LG hasn't done it yet. I don't expect it to for a while yet either. *touch wood*

[steveg32]

I was just reviewing the two INF files and noticed that they aren't matching. Did you choose an alternate playlist when you did Jackass?

@ jdobbs

Yes, I chose the Theatrical version:
Playlist 00001 -- Playlength: 01:34:00 - [048 Chapters].

And the Director's Cut version:
Playlist 00007 -- Playlength: 01:39:44 - [049 Chapters].

Both had the same sync issues.

[A.Fenderson]

BD-RB is still randomly refusing to continue an incomplete rebuild for me. My system BSODed, I rebooted, opened BD-RB, clicked Backup, and it allowed me to resume. My system later BSODed again while encoding the same segment that it was encoding the first time my system crashed, but after this reboot, it's now only allowing me the option to delete the contents of the working directory. I didn't change anything either time, just rebooted, relaunched the app, and clicked "Backup."

Thanks.


-----------------------
[03:27:29] BD Rebuilder v0.38.02 (beta)
- Source: GIRL_NEXT_DOOR
- Input BD size: 33.99 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:20.272]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[03:27:29] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:27:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [03:27:52] Reencoding: VID_00028 (1 of 15)
- [03:27:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 14,314 frames
- Bitrate: 4,540 Kbs
- [03:27:52] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:32:05] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:55:24] Video Encode complete
- [03:55:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:55:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:55:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [03:56:03] Reencoding: VID_00029 (2 of 15)
- [03:56:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 17,982 frames
- Bitrate: 4,539 Kbs
- [03:56:03] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:27:15] Video Encode complete
- [04:27:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:27:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:27:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [04:27:31] Reencoding: VID_00030 (3 of 15)
- [04:27:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,016 frames
- Bitrate: 4,546 Kbs
- [04:27:31] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:28:50] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:36:03] Video Encode complete
- [04:36:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:36:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:36:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [04:36:14] Reencoding: VID_00031 (4 of 15)
- [04:36:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,690 frames
- Bitrate: 4,544 Kbs
- [04:36:14] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:37:36] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:45:04] Video Encode complete
- [04:45:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:45:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:45:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [04:45:17] Reencoding: VID_00032 (5 of 15)
- [04:45:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,787 frames
- Bitrate: 4,533 Kbs
- [04:45:17] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:46:37] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:54:31] Video Encode complete
- [04:54:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:54:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:54:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00033]
- [04:54:41] Reencoding: VID_00033 (6 of 15)
- [04:54:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,581 frames
- Bitrate: 4,347 Kbs
- [04:54:41] Reencoding: VID_00033, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:55:39] Reencoding: VID_00033, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:02:38] Video Encode complete
- [05:02:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:02:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:02:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [05:02:46] Reencoding: VID_00034 (7 of 15)
- [05:02:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,760 frames
- Bitrate: 4,539 Kbs
- [05:02:46] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:03:31] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:08:08] Video Encode complete
- [05:08:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:08:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:08:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00035]
- [05:08:17] Reencoding: VID_00035 (8 of 15)
- [05:08:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,728 frames
- Bitrate: 4,509 Kbs
- [05:08:17] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:09:21] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:15:33] Video Encode complete
- [05:15:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:15:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:15:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00036]
- [05:15:44] Reencoding: VID_00036 (9 of 15)
- [05:15:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,787 frames
- Bitrate: 4,498 Kbs
- [05:15:44] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:17:04] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:24:59] Video Encode complete
- [05:24:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:24:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:25:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
- [05:25:09] Reencoding: VID_00037 (10 of 15)
- [05:25:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,134 frames
- Bitrate: 4,511 Kbs
- [05:25:09] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:26:22] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:32:43] Video Encode complete
- [05:32:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:32:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:32:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [05:32:53] Reencoding: VID_00038 (11 of 15)
- [05:32:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,462 frames
- Bitrate: 4,502 Kbs
- [05:32:53] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:34:08] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:42:46] Video Encode complete
- [05:42:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:42:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:42:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [05:42:59] Reencoding: VID_00039 (12 of 15)
- [05:42:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,890 frames
- Bitrate: 4,510 Kbs
- [05:43:00] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:44:38] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:53:52] Video Encode complete
- [05:53:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:53:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:53:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00072]
- [05:54:05] Reencoding: VID_00072 (13 of 15)
- [05:54:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,346 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 4,932 Kbs
- [05:54:05] Reencoding: VID_00072, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:55:06] Reencoding: VID_00072, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:59:53] Video Encode complete
- [05:59:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:59:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:59:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00073]
- [06:15:28] Reencoding: VID_00073 (14 of 15)
- [06:15:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 157,489 frames
- Bitrate: 19,512 Kbs
- [06:15:29] Reencoding: VID_00073, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:38:47] Reencoding: VID_00073, Pass 2 of 2
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[04:21:06] BD Rebuilder v0.38.02 (beta)
- Source: GIRL_NEXT_DOOR
- Input BD size: 33.99 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:20.272]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[04:21:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:21:09] Reencoding: VID_00073 (14 of 15)
- [04:21:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 157,489 frames
- Bitrate: 19,512 Kbs
- [04:21:09] Reencoding: VID_00073, Pass 2 of 2
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[02:19:26] BD Rebuilder v0.38.02 (beta)
- Source: GIRL_NEXT_DOOR
- Input BD size: 33.99 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:20.272]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[02:19:29] - Aborted per user request
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[02:19:30] BD Rebuilder v0.38.02 (beta)
- Source: GIRL_NEXT_DOOR
- Input BD size: 33.99 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:20.272]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[02:19:31] - Aborted per user request

[jdobbs]

@A.Fenderson

If you're getting a BDOD, it is definitely a problem with your system. The fact that it is "random" is pretty much proof of that.

[jdobbs]

@ jdobbs

Yes, I chose the Theatrical version:
Playlist 00001 -- Playlength: 01:34:00 - [048 Chapters].

And the Director's Cut version:
Playlist 00007 -- Playlength: 01:39:44 - [049 Chapters].

Both had the same sync issues. Hmm... that's even worse. I just went to look at my copy -- and there is no "Director's Cut". So I went to Amazon, and I can't even find one with it.

[worknstiff]

@omegaman7: RE:I hear you. I really do LOL! My lite-on is guilty of a few bad rips.

I have recently done the BBC Life series ( the David Attenborough one, not Oprah's ) and on Disk 3, Episode 6 Insects, Chapter 5, there is a scene where one of the Dawson's bee's are coming out of the ground that is really a mess. It is specifically at 39:39 and 39:40 and lasts for about 40 frames, it is a blocky mess of little squares, and is not in the original or in the rip, that I did, and redid. It has shown up no matter if I do it as automatic quality, or even as highest quality 2 pass. I have finally given up and accepted that it is just a hiccup while being encoded and left it alone but wondered if anyone else has seen this problem either on this disk or others?

On another note, you really have to love Sandy Bridge, doing a 2 hour movie in high quality default 2 pass in under 3 hours! WOW! Who cares if it runs hot as a firecracker, even 98 degrees sometimes. I have noticed that when it is on the 1'st pass that it maxes out around 65 fps but the cores are not maxed and are only running ariund 30 percent. Is there a limit to how fast x264 can go or is the bottleneck in the hardrives and bus speeds? I have wondered about going all SSD, even for the output folder not just for the source. It does max out the cores on 2'nd pass, at around 20 fps.

[KillingTime]

Heartbreak Ridge got delivered yesterday (I ordered it online), but I haven't run it yet. There shouldn't be errors reading -- as the reading software should pick that up via CRC errors. I've never had any issues of that type with AnyDVD HD.

Also, the post in your link doesn't contain the INI file. That is the LOG and the INF file. The INI is called BDREBUILDER.INI and is located in the installation folder. It contains all the saved settings.

Found it. My mistake.

[Options]
VERSION=0.37.0.6
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=16000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=16000
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=20
ALT_TARGET=4000
ALTMETHOD=2
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\WORKING\HEARTBREAK_RIDGE\
WORKING_PATH=C:\WORKING\


I'm ripping from an LG burner BH10LS30, and it gets good reviews. The source disc is semi-transparent.

[jdobbs]

Found it. My mistake.

...

I'm ripping from an LG burner BH10LS30, and it gets good reviews. The source disc is semi-transparent. So it's working now?

[omegaman7]

I Knew it! Those transparent discs are a total buzz kill. I remember the first one I ever dealt with. "Broken arrow". It was soo transparent, it was almost like glass. Pretty stupid if you ask me. Clearly they haven't learned, since at least 1 out of 5 are at least semi-transparent. Ok, I'll shut up about this now.

@Worknstiff, Harddrives are hardly a bottleneck for such an intensive process(Fragmentation COULD slow it slightly though). I seriously doubt that any single processor can encode fast enough to saturate a hard drives bandwidth(Who knows what the industry has at their disposal though). Cloud computing...that's a different story.

[worknstiff]

@ omegaman7, RE: Harddrives are hardly a bottleneck for such an intensive process

Looking at this from purely a theoretical hypothesis, since I have not even a vague idea what x264 is doing in either pass, is that if pass1 is only reading the frames and if pass2 is actually writing the frames, then it stands to reason the writing is slower since pass1 is doing 60fps and pass2 is only 20fps with all 4 cores running 100%. There must be a reason that pass2 is so much more cpu intensive and still is slower by about 40fps. thanks for your input, worknstiff

[omegaman7]

I don't understand the coding of X264 myself. But it is logical to assume, an SSD has lower latency, so you would likely see at least a slight improvement. But I'd wager it wouldn't be much. The CPU is being worked like a dog with the X264 process. It takes a lot of horsepower/resources. THat's just the easiest way to explain it. Even reading a 1920 x 1080 frame takes some processing horse power ;) So a faster hard drive would probably not speed this up.

[jdobbs]

I'm pretty sure the reason you aren't hitting 100% on pass one is because X264's settings are less challenging and it is encoding faster than the frames are being presented to it. That would indicate the combination of FFDSHOW, AVISYNTH, HAALI and the harddrive are the bottleneck. You'll also find that the processor will run under 100% on pass 2 for some very powerful processors.

[worknstiff]

@jdobbs, RE:X264's settings are less challenging and it is encoding faster than the frames are being presented to it.

Thanks for the input from the person in charge that should know if anyone here does, lol. I was just wondering why such a big difference between pass1 and pass2 unless it's because it is actually writing the data to the HD instead of just examining the data. I thought maybe that accounts for the 40 fps difference, and maybe a intel X25 SSD would help close the gap between pass 1 and 2, but I am still really pleased with 20 fps in pass2. I was getting around 5 fps in pass2 with my old E8400.

[omegaman7]

Keep in mind, that the amount of compression will greatly effect how many FPS you'll see. If you have over 4hrs to compress, that's gonna take some time. 3+ hrs seems to be pretty common I've noticed. If you're converting only the main title, that's gonna take considerably less time. Myself, I prefer to keep as much intact as possible :D

[had-z]

A perfect backup of Black Hawk Down done with the latest build!! many thanks jdobbs seems like the IGS problem is 100% fixed, now the only major issue is the DTS-E Mux...

Cheers!

[KillingTime]

So it's working now?

No, I meant I've found the .ini fiile from the re-encode I did, my mistake was to give you the log file first time round.

All the errors I've had so far have been with those transparent discs though. I think it has more to do with your optical drive design than anything else. Remember the silliness with DVDs when the distributors wanted to stop home ripping? They made DVDs that did not conform to Philips spec, that would play in most set top players, but not in computer drives. This could be the start of something similar, but I have no proof.

The rip and rebuild of your copy will put this issue to bed. At exactly 20 muinutes into the film, there's a scene where the new CO is telling Eastwood he's obsolete, and you get a close up of the actors faces. It's asy to spot audio lag here.

[jdobbs]

No, I meant I've found the .ini fiile from the re-encode I did, my mistake was to give you the log file first time round.

All the errors I've had so far have been with those transparent discs though. I think it has more to do with your optical drive design than anything else. Remember the silliness with DVDs when the distributors wanted to stop home ripping? They made DVDs that did not conform to Philips spec, that would play in most set top players, but not in computer drives. This could be the start of something similar, but I have no proof.

The rip and rebuild of your copy will put this issue to bed. At exactly 20 muinutes into the film, there's a scene where the new CO is telling Eastwood he's obsolete, and you get a close up of the actors faces. It's asy to spot audio lag here. I ran "Heartbreak Ridge" yesterday -- no issues here. Just to be sure I just reviewed the scene you mentioned. I wanted to punch the CO ;), but the sound was in perfect sync.

[[SLiM]D12]

D12;1502546']Re-encoded again using custom size, was 7GB this time.........here's the log:


[12:13:28] BD Rebuilder v0.37.08 (beta)
- Source: STAND_BY_ME
- Input BD size: 29.25 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:42:11.511]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:13:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:13:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [12:13:29] Reencoding: VID_00021 (1 of 14)
- [12:13:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [12:13:29] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:13:30] Video Encode complete
- [12:13:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:13:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:13:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [12:13:35] Reencoding: VID_00081 (2 of 14)
- [12:13:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
- [12:13:35] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:13:50] Video Encode complete
- [12:13:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:13:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:13:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [12:13:55] Reencoding: VID_00101 (3 of 14)
- [12:13:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- [12:13:55] Reencoding: VID_00101, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:14:10] Video Encode complete
- [12:14:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:14:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:14:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [12:14:16] Reencoding: VID_00104 (4 of 14)
- [12:14:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- [12:14:16] Reencoding: VID_00104, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:14:31] Video Encode complete
- [12:14:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:14:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:14:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00107]
- [12:14:40] Reencoding: VID_00107 (5 of 14)
- [12:14:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,040 frames
- [12:14:40] Reencoding: VID_00107, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:15:01] Video Encode complete
- [12:15:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:15:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:15:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- [12:15:10] Reencoding: VID_00108 (6 of 14)
- [12:15:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,451 frames
- [12:15:10] Reencoding: VID_00108, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:15:30] Video Encode complete
- [12:15:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:15:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:15:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [12:15:38] Reencoding: VID_00022 (7 of 14)
- [12:15:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,555 frames
- [12:15:38] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:16:01] Video Encode complete
- [12:16:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:16:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:16:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00109]
- [12:16:14] Reencoding: VID_00109 (8 of 14)
- [12:16:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,151 frames
- [12:16:14] Reencoding: VID_00109, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:16:55] Video Encode complete
- [12:16:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:16:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:16:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00113]
- [12:17:10] Reencoding: VID_00113 (9 of 14)
- [12:17:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,797 frames
- [12:17:10] Reencoding: VID_00113, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:18:05] Video Encode complete
- [12:18:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:18:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:18:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00110]
- [12:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00110 (10 of 14)
- [12:18:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,771 frames
- [12:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00110, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:19:14] Video Encode complete
- [12:19:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:19:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:19:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00111]
- [12:19:33] Reencoding: VID_00111 (11 of 14)
- [12:19:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,559 frames
- [12:19:33] Reencoding: VID_00111, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:20:53] Video Encode complete
- [12:20:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:20:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:20:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
- [12:21:28] Reencoding: VID_00105 (12 of 14)
- [12:21:28] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [12:21:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,712 frames
- [12:21:38] Reencoding: VID_00105, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:23:52] Video Encode complete
- [12:23:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:23:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:24:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- [12:25:38] Reencoding: VID_00106 (13 of 14)
- [12:25:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 66,135 frames
- [12:25:39] Reencoding: VID_00106, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:29:14] Video Encode complete
- [12:29:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:29:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:29:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [12:45:31] Reencoding: VID_00011 (14 of 14)
- [12:45:31] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [12:51:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 127,656 frames
- Bitrate: 23,952 Kbs
- [12:51:52] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:04:07] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:30:54] Video Encode complete
- [18:30:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:30:54] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:43:43]PHASE ONE complete
[18:43:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:43:43] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:44:07] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:44:07] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:48:43]JOB: STAND_BY_ME finished.


@jdobbs here is the log you asked me to post. Encoded twice, one came out 11GB in size, and the other 7GB. It def seems like it's re-encoding the main movie so i'm not sure what's causing it to be so undersized.

Thanks in advance.

[jdobbs]

D12;1503036']@jdobbs here is the log you asked me to post. Encoded twice, one came out 11GB in size, and the other 7GB. It def seems like it's re-encoding the main movie so i'm not sure what's causing it to be so undersized.

Thanks in advance. I'm looking at your log and the main feature is encoded at a bitrate of 23,952 Kbs. I also see that you are keep HD audio. A guess mght be that you are hitting the maximum combined bitrate. But that should add up to almost 16GB for the video alone...

Are you using all the exact versions that are linked in the first post of this thread?

[[SLiM]D12]

@jdobbs

Ok let me try to change to 640 kbps and see what happens. Will post back with results.

[Capsbackup]

I'm looking at your log and the main feature is encoded at a bitrate of 23,952 Kbs. I also see that you are keep HD audio. A guess mght be that you are hitting the maximum combined bitrate.

Just curious, not related to the suspect undersize, but the top of the log says:
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
The only file reencoded with 2-pass is the last one, with all the rest 1-pass. :confused:

[Capsbackup]

D12;1503043']@jdobbs

Ok let me try to change to 640 kbps and see what happens. Will post back with results.

Lowering the audio to 640kbps will not increase the file size, but perhaps lower it. The suggestion is that the video bitrate is already very high, so giving the video more space by lowering the audio will not increase the file size since it is already maxed out. :)

[[SLiM]D12]

Lowering the audio to 640kbps will not increase the file size, but perhaps lower it. The suggestion is that the video bitrate is already very high, so giving the video more space by lowering the audio will not increase the file size since it is already maxed out. :)

But if I make the audio small enough, it can leave the video untouched and thus make it closer to the 25GB size I desire.

[jdobbs]

Just curious, not related to the suspect undersize, but the top of the log says:
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
The only file reencoded with 2-pass is the last one, with all the rest 1-pass. :confused: Probably "Quick Encode for Extras"

[jdobbs]

D12;1503048']But if I make the audio small enough, it can leave the video untouched and thus make it closer to the 25GB size I desire. I edited my response -- are you using the exact versions of the apps linked in the first post of this thread? Something is wrong because the bitrate and length of the main feature should add up to almost 16GB for that stream's video alone.

[Capsbackup]

Probably "Quick Encode for Extras"

Awe yes, I forgot about that option.:p Thanks!

[[SLiM]D12]

So selecting 640 audio got me to 15GB, but still quite a bit under. I confirmed i had the versions defined in this thread, but uninstalled and reinstalled to ensure and i'm trying again with HD Audio.

[jdobbs]

D12;1503125']So selecting 640 audio got me to 15GB, but still quite a bit under. I confirmed i had the versions defined in this thread, but uninstalled and reinstalled to ensure and i'm trying again with HD Audio. I guess I'm going to have to run that disc to find out what's going on...

[Edit] Picked it up, will run tonight. Glad to find out this movie is now available in Blu-Ray -- one of my favorites.

[[SLiM]D12]

Awesome. I ran it again and got 17GB....getting closer :)

[RobertM]

Originally Posted by [SLiM]D12 View Post
Re-encoded again using custom size, was 7GB this time.........here's the log:

@jdobbs:

Is there any significance to the fact that VID_00105 (12 of 14) and VID_00011 (14 of 14) say "Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]" instead of "Reencoding: VID_00### (## of 14)"?

Also, I noticed that VID_00106 (13 of 14) reencodes 66,135 frames in 3.1/2 minutes, or approx 300fps. That seems pretty fast.


@[slim]D12: Try turning OFF the option that clears the WORKFILES folder after the process completes, so you can see what actual files are used to create the BD file structure (and how big they are). Also, until you get this figured out, perhaps you should remove ImgBurn as a variable, and just evaluate the contents of the recreated BD folders.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs:

Is there any significance to the fact that VID_00105 (12 of 14) and VID_00011 (14 of 14) say "Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]" instead of "Reencoding: VID_00### (## of 14)"?

Also, I noticed that VID_00106 (13 of 14) reencodes 66,135 frames in 3.1/2 minutes, or approx 300fps. That seems pretty fast.


@[slim]D12: Try turning OFF the option that clears the WORKFILES folder after the process completes, so you can see what actual files are used to create the BD file structure (and how big they are). Also, until you get this figured out, perhaps you should remove ImgBurn as a variable, and just evaluate the contents of the recreated BD folders.It's supposed to say "Secondary" -- because that stream has a secondary video stream (PiP).

300fps isn't unusual for a 720x480 stream. I get around 360fps on my dedicated video computer.

[empty1]

I have had a lot of good results with BD-RB, but recently I have been getting some errors. I tried version 37.07 and had errors so I downloaded 38.02 and got the same results. Here is the log:
-----------------------
[20:34:09] BD Rebuilder v0.37.07 (beta)
- Source: DRWHO_ENDOFTIME_PART2
- Input BD size: 41.62 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:19:44.013]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:34:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:34:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [20:36:51] Reencoding: VID_00123 (1 of 4)
- [20:36:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 31,078 frames
- [20:36:52] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:41:42] Video Encode complete
- [20:41:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:41:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:41:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00122]
- [20:45:59] Reencoding: VID_00122 (2 of 4)
- [20:45:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 37,950 frames
- Bitrate: 18,690 Kbs
- [20:46:00] Reencoding: VID_00122, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:53:50] Video Encode complete
- [20:53:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:53:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:53:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00121]
- [21:05:26] Reencoding: VID_00121 (3 of 4)
- [21:05:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 102,317 frames
- Bitrate: 20,604 Kbs
- [21:05:30] Reencoding: VID_00121, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.37.07 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [1]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[21:08:44] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[23:56:03] BD Rebuilder v0.38.02 (beta)
- Source: DRWHO_ENDOFTIME_PART2
- Input BD size: 41.62 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:19:44.013]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:56:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:56:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00120]
- [00:12:56] Reencoding: VID_00120 (1 of 4)
- [00:12:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 130,667 frames
- Bitrate: 14,936 Kbs
- [00:13:02] Reencoding: VID_00120, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.02 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [1]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[00:16:21] - Failed video encode, aborted

Am I missing something obvious?
Thanks.

[setarip_old]

@empty1

Hi!
Am I missing something obvious?Yes, you are:


- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080

- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [1]

[empty1]

OK, I am confused. Isn't 1080p = 1920x1080? What settings should be set in ffdshow for VC1?

[ceet12]

just updated to the latest version of bd rebuilder, i am tryin to convert salt (i now this is cinivia protected), to a bd25 backup on the options setting i have set encoder to highest (very slow)

the problem im having is about 30% through i get the error x264 has stopped working?

anyone no why this is doing it?

also the main problem that geeting to me is this

i was prompted with a dialogue box when running bdrebuilder from ffdshow about what to selct or something it said ffdshow "choose dont use now, or always, etc" so i chose no, however apparently on reading up i should have chose yes, how can i get the dialogue box to appear again so i can choose yes??

i have looked in the setiing briefly and found something different in ffdshow, but i can not find the exact popup i had

i also got the same popup when i loaded a audio cue file through imgburn

Any Help appreciated?

[jdobbs]

just updated to the latest version of bd rebuilder, i am tryin to convert salt (i now this is cinivia protected), to a bd25 backup on the options setting i have set encoder to highest (very slow)

the problem im having is about 30% through i get the error x264 has stopped working?

anyone no why this is doing it?

also the main problem that geeting to me is this

i was prompted with a dialogue box when running bdrebuilder from ffdshow about what to selct or something it said ffdshow "choose dont use now, or always, etc" so i chose no, however apparently on reading up i should have chose yes, how can i get the dialogue box to appear again so i can choose yes??

i have looked in the setiing briefly and found something different in ffdshow, but i can not find the exact popup i had

i also got the same popup when i loaded a audio cue file through imgburn

Any Help appreciated?
Most probable causes:

1. You have the wrong version of FFDSHOW, HAALI, or AVISYNTH installed. My testing has shown that using the latest version of FFDSHOW definitely causes this error.

2. Your system is unstable. If you are overclocked, slow it down a little.

[jdobbs]

OK, I am confused. Isn't 1080p = 1920x1080? What settings should be set in ffdshow for VC1? I have no idea what you are are trying to say in this post. It has nothing to do with the solution to your problem that setarip_old pointed out. If you follow the instructions in the first post of this thread (step 8) it will solve your problem.

More specifically:

1. Click on the windows/start icon.
2. Select "FFDSHOW" from "All Programs"
3. Select "Video Decoder Configuration"
4. Set the VC-1 decoder (under CODECs) to "wmv9"

[empty1]

Sorry, didn't mean to be a pain. What is weird is that everything was working and suddenly things changed. I had not reinstalled anything but the latest version of BD-RB and apparently the FFDSHOW settings got messed with. I ONLY use this machine for ripping and can't imagine what would have changed the settings. Are there other programs that would mess with FFDSHOW settings without my knowing it????

[Ch3vr0n]

yes, if u use any codec pack. ANY at all, uninstall em. You don't need em

[jdobbs]

Sorry, didn't mean to be a pain. What is weird is that everything was working and suddenly things changed. I had not reinstalled anything but the latest version of BD-RB and apparently the FFDSHOW settings got messed with. I ONLY use this machine for ripping and can't imagine what would have changed the settings. Are there other programs that would mess with FFDSHOW settings without my knowing it???? Sometimes other software packages will do things without telling you. It's safe to say that either something changed it -- or this is the first VC-1 source you've tried (unlikely).

[jdobbs]

D12;1503125']So selecting 640 audio got me to 15GB, but still quite a bit under. I confirmed i had the versions defined in this thread, but uninstalled and reinstalled to ensure and i'm trying again with HD Audio. Something is wrong on your end. Uninstall everyting and install with the software from the first post of this thread. I just ran "Stand By Me" with settings that should be the same as yours -- and it came out to the exact size (22.3 GB) that it was supposed to.

[ceet12]

Most probable causes:

1. You have the wrong version of FFDSHOW, HAALI, or AVISYNTH installed. My testing has shown that using the latest version of FFDSHOW definitely causes this error.

2. Your system is unstable. If you are overclocked, slow it down a little.

@ jdobbs thanks for your super fast reply

i have installed all correct versions of ffdshow hali etc, and the system isnt overclocked

i will try again with these settings however

im still baffeled by this

i was prompted with a dialogue box when running bdrebuilder from ffdshow about what to select or something it said ffdshow "choose dont use now, or always, etc" so i chose no, however apparently on reading up i should have chose yes, how can i get the dialogue box to appear again so i can choose yes??

Do you no how to get the dialogue box to reapper when i open bdrebuilder??

Thanks

[[SLiM]D12]

Something is wrong on your end. Uninstall everyting and install with the software from the first post of this thread. I just ran "Stand By Me" with settings that should be the same as yours -- and it came out to the exact size (22.3 GB) that it was supposed to.

thanks jdobbs. I'll see if i can figure out wtf is going wrong here.

Appreciate the time and your help.

[jdobbs]

@ jdobbs thanks for your super fast reply

i have installed all correct versions of ffdshow hali etc, and the system isnt overclocked

i will try again with these settings however

im still baffeled by this

i was prompted with a dialogue box when running bdrebuilder from ffdshow about what to select or something it said ffdshow "choose dont use now, or always, etc" so i chose no, however apparently on reading up i should have chose yes, how can i get the dialogue box to appear again so i can choose yes??

Do you no how to get the dialogue box to reapper when i open bdrebuilder??

Thanks You were probably doing a backup to DVD and it was asking whether to add HC Encoder to its "ok" list.

[ceet12]

You were probably doing a backup to DVD and it was asking whether to add HC Encoder to its "ok" list.

hi no i was converting a bd50 to bd25

and i have read that it should be set to yes always (ffdshow)

and i chose no (always) i just wanted the dialogue box to appear again to rectify the problem

how can i do this?


All so my inspect log seems wrong on a few things

here is the log, i hope you can help and am extremley greatfull!

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok



Thanks

[Capsbackup]

For ffdshow, go to Start, All Programs, ffdshow, ffdshow video decoder configuration. For MPEG2 set to Libmpeg2. For VC1 set to wmv9. :)

[jdobbs]

@ jdobbs

Yes, I chose the Theatrical version:
Playlist 00001 -- Playlength: 01:34:00 - [048 Chapters].

And the Director's Cut version:
Playlist 00007 -- Playlength: 01:39:44 - [049 Chapters].

Both had the same sync issues.

@steveg32 and others who have reported sync issues on DVD-5/9 output.


I think I've found a connection. On my test computer I had upgraded to AVISYNTH v2.58 some time ago so I can certify it as the recommended version. When I removed it and reinstalled v2.57 (the currrent recommendation) I was able to repeat the sync issue on certain discs. When I reinstall v2.58, the problem is solved.

So, though it is still not completely clear why, it appears that the DVD-5/9 audio synchronization problem is linked to using the combination of HC Encoder and AVISYNTH 2.57.

Since I have been running v2.58 for some time now, I am confident it is safe to use and I have now updated the first link of this thread so that it now links to that version.

@steveg32

Can you please download and install this version of AVISYNTH (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_258.exe) and report if it corrects your issue?

Thanks.

[Ch3vr0n]

So, though it is still not completely clear why, it appears that the DVD-5/9 audio synchronization problem is linked to using the combination of HC Encoder and AVISYNTH 2.57.

Since I have been running v2.58 for some time now, I am confident it is safe to use and I have now updated the first link of this thread so that it now links to that version.


Got some news you might be interested in too jdobbs. You know about my HP5 that kept crashing on VID_00033 ? Well with 2.58 it DIDNT when it hit the actual encoding phase, though it did leave an mkv file along with the m2ts file in the workfiles dir.

I think the problem is that the message sais at some point "... secondairy video stream". However when you take a look at the properties for vid_00033 there IS no secondary video stream. VID_00002 also had the non-existant secondairy stream but it was mentioned during the encoding process. Maybe thats the reason 2.57 crashed.

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1208/vid00033.jpg


I'll let you know about the final outcome

Also there are 14 audio streams present, stream 13 is being flagged as "undetermined". This may be because of stream 8. 8 is often incorrectly flagged as english (on the main m2ts though its correctly identified as dutch). Stream 13 however is also dutch but flemish (belgian) to be exact. Maybe add another language option ?

I also couldnt help but notice that x264-64 didnt get called on VC-1 streams, a bug or is x264 incapable of doing vc1 in 64bit with the LAFV.

UPDATE 1:
Encode was aborted and restarted from scratch to make sure it wasnt a fluke, VID_00033 was successfully encoded again with AVS 2.58 and multiplexed back. So far its going good.

[POP*READ]

Can you please download and install this version of AVISYNTH and report if it corrects your issue?

Jdobbs , i was having an issue with Sherlock Holmes to dvd and this does correct the audio sync issue !!
thank you so much.

Adding bd to dvd was a huge bonus for me , so thank you .

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs , i was having an issue with Sherlock Holmes to dvd and this does correct the audio sync issue !!
thank you so much.

Adding bd to dvd was a huge bonus for me , so thank you . Great! Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new release of BD-RB (v0.38.03). Changes for this version:- Corrected an error in which .CHP files could be
created and never removed in the destination
folder while previewing streams.
- Fixed an issue in subtitle end-times related to
previously resized (via TSMUXER) subtitles.
- Changed the default setting for B_PYRAMID (see
HIDDENOPTS.TXT) to disabled. While it should
be supported per standard, at least two standalone
players appear to have difficulty with b-frame
references.
- Corrected level settings associated with 720x480
or 576 secondary video streams.
- Added code to prevent redundant reencoding of
secondary video streams when resuming after the
encoding has previously been completed.
- Changed the recommended version of AVISYNTH to
v2.58. This should solve reported audio sync
issues on ALTERNATE DVD-5/9 output that can
occur on certain discs. AVISYNTH v2.58 can be
downloaded from here:
http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_258.exe
(http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_258.exe)- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

All Users,

Please note that the recommended version of AVISYNTH has changed. All users are advised to update to v2.5.8.0. A link to that version is included in the first post of this thread.

[mrickman]

This may be off-topic for this forum, but here goes:

Is there any way to force BD-Rebuilder to keep HD-Audio on
a BD9 encode? According to the following excerpt:

If doing BD-5 or BD-9:

1. Default (all audio options unchecked)
---- All audio is converted to DD AC3. Bitrate is 640Kbs for 5.1 and 224Kbs for 2.0.
---- All 7.1 sources are down-converted to 5.1

1.1 448Kbs selected -- 5.1 = 448Kbs, 2.0 = 224Kbs
1.2 192Kbs selected, all sources down-converted to 2.0 @ 192Kbs

2. "Do not convert DTS" checked and full-backup, or movie-only and "Strict AVCHD" is not checked: When the source is DTS, the DTS core is extracted and used intact (bit-for-bit).

3. "Do not reencode AC3" checked and full-backup, or movie-only and "Strict AVCHD" is not checked: When the source is Dolby, the Dolby core is extracted and used intact.

4. LPCM is always converted to AC3.

5. Keep HD is always ignored.

6. Setting "OVERRIDE_AVCHD_AUDIO_LIMIT=1" in the INI will allow strict AVCHD to also use DTS.

and I was wondering if there is perhaps a hidden setting that can be turned on to allow HD-Audio
on a BD-9 level. If not, what would the minimum custom
size that would allow HD-Audio to be kept intact?

Thanks! :thanks:
Mike

[jdobbs]

Sorry, but physics denys it. HD Audio is too big to fit on a DVD-9. There would be little or no space left for the video.

Of course, since the human ear can't detect HD audio compared to DD5.1@640Kbs* it really doesn't matter anyway. JMHO.

Any custom size over 8500 would allow it -- but be careful, you still might end up with a terrible picture or "failure to fit" messages.


*According to Dolby Labs AC-3 audio is transparent (indistinguishable from source material in double-blind tests) at 640Kbs.

[laserfan]

*According to Dolby Labs AC-3 audio is transparent (indistinguishable from source material in double-blind tests) at 640Kbs.
Or if you're >60yrs old, or otherwise spent years (say, in college) using headphones and wearing-out Led Zeppelin cassette tapes, then you don't bother even w/640k as 448 is plenty good enough.

Not that I know of anyone to whom this applies of course! ;)

[omegaman7]

This is a shot from "I am number four". (They're PNG J.D.)

Jdobbs, is there a way to tweak the dark scenery? What I mean is, can it be more gentle with them? I'm still seeing significant artifacting in the darker scenes. I'm gonna burn my result and see how it looks on the plasma. The plasma has better rendering than my monitor ;) I've noticed that lots of encoders, seem to pull bitrate from the dark scenes. ConvertX is really bad. Sure would be wonderful if we could allocate more bitrate to them. I'm probably just really critical :(

Original frame #17661, no compression.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4228/17661orig.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/17661orig.png/)
Slowest encode setting frame #17671(only 10 frames off, where the last encode was 29).
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9374/17671re.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/17671re.png/)

Ok, the video plays fine on the BD player in the living room. Though it does downscale to 720P. It's not a full HD TV :( My guess is, that TMT 3 is simply not rendering it properly. THough the original renders better.

[Sharc]

- Fixed an issue in subtitle end-times related to
previously resized (via TSMUXER) subtitles.


I just want to report back that subtitles are fine now.
I tried from a 24 fps 720p source. PAL framerate conversion to 25 fps (speedup), audio speedup without pitch shift, and subtitles speedup with correct playback times :)

[Capsbackup]

Or if you're >60yrs old, or otherwise spent years (say, in college) using headphones and wearing-out Led Zeppelin cassette tapes, then you don't bother even w/640k as 448 is plenty good enough.

Not that I know of anyone to whom this applies of course! ;)

Well if you include Jeff Beck too, I confess :o

[JJB]

Well if you include Jeff Beck too, I confess :o

Don't leave out Robin Trower or Tommy Bolin.....Then I will testify!

[steveg32]

@steveg32 and others who have reported sync issues on DVD-5/9 output.


I think I've found a connection. On my test computer I had upgraded to AVISYNTH v2.58 some time ago so I can certify it as the recommended version. When I removed it and reinstalled v2.57 (the currrent recommendation) I was able to repeat the sync issue on certain discs. When I reinstall v2.58, the problem is solved.

So, though it is still not completely clear why, it appears that the DVD-5/9 audio synchronization problem is linked to using the combination of HC Encoder and AVISYNTH 2.57.

Since I have been running v2.58 for some time now, I am confident it is safe to use and I have now updated the first link of this thread so that it now links to that version.

@steveg32

Can you please download and install this version of AVISYNTH (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_258.exe) and report if it corrects your issue?

Thanks.

@jdobbs

Will do. Mahalo jdobbs! :)

[jdobbs]

Or if you're >60yrs old, or otherwise spent years (say, in college) using headphones and wearing-out Led Zeppelin cassette tapes, then you don't bother even w/640k as 448 is plenty good enough.

Not that I know of anyone to whom this applies of course! ;) Cassettes? So you decided to go "HD audio" and give up the 8-tracks, eh? Let's add Hendrix, Jethro Tull, Deep Purple, Steppenwolf, Cream, The Byrds, CSN, Jefferson Airplane, and Creedance Clearwater Revival. We can even cover Page, Beck, and Clapton together just by saying "The Yardbirds".

"Get your motor runnin'..."

All of the above are on my iPod...

[laserfan]

*According to Dolby Labs AC-3 audio is transparent (indistinguishable from source material in double-blind tests) at 640Kbs.
BTW, am I correct in assuming that bits are applied equally to 5.1 tracks i.e. each track in this case gets 106.67Kbs? And thus my preferred (when I convert from HD audio, I use this, if the original is 640 I just leave it alone) 448 yields 75kbps?

I ask cuz in olden times when I'd rip my CDs, I did so to 160Kbps (80 per stereo track) and it sounded fine to me. I guess now that I make this comparison 448 does seem slightly weak, though I read somewhere else that 448 is as much as 9x% of the population can discern...

[Sharc]

BTW, am I correct in assuming that bits are applied equally to 5.1 tracks i.e. each track in this case gets 106.67Kbs? And thus my preferred (when I convert from HD audio, I use this, if the original is 640 I just leave it alone) 448 yields 75kbps?

I ask cuz in olden times when I'd rip my CDs, I did so to 160Kbps (80 per stereo track) and it sounded fine to me. I guess now that I make this comparison 448 does seem slightly weak, though I read somewhere else that 448 is as much as 9x% of the population can discern...
Good question. I would assume that the LFE channel with an upper cutoff of 120 Hz requires a fraction (say less than 1%) of the bitrate of any of the "regular" 5 channels. Means the LFE channel is "almost free", and we may split the 448kbps to 5 tracks rather than 6, means 448/5=90 kbps for each of the 5 "regular" channels which compares favourably with your former 80 kbps per stereo track. My speculation rather than science ...
And Dolby Digital in Cinemas is 320 kbps. So if we are aiming at Cinema experience we should be happy with even less. :devil:

And just want to add Fleetwood Mac and The Who to your list as causes for changing our ears to lowpass filters ....

[jdobbs]

BTW, am I correct in assuming that bits are applied equally to 5.1 tracks i.e. each track in this case gets 106.67Kbs? And thus my preferred (when I convert from HD audio, I use this, if the original is 640 I just leave it alone) 448 yields 75kbps?

I ask cuz in olden times when I'd rip my CDs, I did so to 160Kbps (80 per stereo track) and it sounded fine to me. I guess now that I make this comparison 448 does seem slightly weak, though I read somewhere else that 448 is as much as 9x% of the population can discern... If I remember correctly (not a sure thing) all but the LFE use equal bitrate and the LFE uses 1/3rd as much. In 448Kbs (DVD) I think that was 96Kbs per channel (80Kbs maybe?) and 32Kbs for LFE. I'd assume 640Kbs is allocated the same way.

[HWK]

Please note that the recommended version of AVISYNTH has changed. All users are advised to update to v2.5.8.0. A link to that version is included in the first post of this thread.

Jdobbs do you think changing inspect.exe would be good idea so it would say avisynth 2.5.7.0 is not recommended version.

[laserfan]

I would assume that the LFE channel with an upper cutoff of 120 Hz requires a fraction (say less than 1%) of the bitrate of any of the "regular" 5 channels. Means the LFE channel is "almost free"...
In 448Kbs (DVD) I think that was 96Kbs per channel (80Kbs maybe?) and 32Kbs for LFE.
Well 5x80=400 leaving 48kbps which is over 50% of the size of the other channels. If you believe that the table below has all the legal bitrates in it (taken from the Standards doc I have, which is almost completely indecipherable to me) this is the only way the math comes-out right. :confused:

Sorry to take this thread OT but I'm likin' 448-640kbps for 5.1 better every minute.
‘000000’ (0) 32 kbps 60 42 40
‘000001’ (0) 32 kbps 60 43 40
‘000010’ (1) 40 kbps 75 53 50
‘000011’ (1) 40 kbps 75 55 50
‘000100’ (2) 48 kbps 90 65 60
‘000101’ (2) 48 kbps 90 65 60
‘000110’ (3) 56 kbps 105 75 70
‘000111’ (3) 56 kbps 105 76 70
‘001000’ (4) 64 kbps 120 86 80
‘001001’ (4) 64 kbps 120 87 80
‘001010’ (5) 80 kbps 150 108 100
‘001011’ (5) 80 kbps 150 108 100
‘001100’ (6) 96 kbps 180 130 120
‘001101’ (6) 96 kbps 180 130 120
‘001110’ (7) 112 kbps 210 151 140
‘001111’ (7) 112 kbps 210 152 140
‘010000’ (8) 128 kbps 240 173 160
‘010001’ (8) 128 kbps 240 173 160
‘010010’ (9) 160 kbps 300 217 200
‘010011’ (9) 160 kbps 300 217 200
‘010100’ (10) 192 kbps 360 260 240
‘010101’ (10) 192 kbps 360 261 240
‘010110’ (11) 224 kbps 420 303 280
‘010111’ (11) 224 kbps 420 305 280
‘011000’ (12) 256 kbps 480 347 320
‘011001’ (12) 256 kbps 480 348 320
‘011010’ (13) 320 kbps 600 435 400
‘011011’ (13) 320 kbps 600 435 400
‘011100’ (14) 384 kbps 720 521 480
‘011101’ (14) 384 kbps 720 522 480
‘011110’ (15) 448 kbps 840 608 560
‘011111’ (15) 448 kbps 840 610 560
‘100000’ (16) 512 kbps 960 696 640
‘100001’ (16) 512 kbps 960 696 640
‘100010’ (17) 576 kbps 1080 782 720
‘100011’ (17) 576 kbps 1080 783 720
‘100100’ (18) 640 kbps 1200 870 800
‘100101’ (18) 640 kbps 1200 871 800

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs do you think changing inspect.exe would be good idea so it would say avisynth 2.5.7.0 is not recommended version. It will already say v2.5.8.0 is "Ok" -- but will also say "Ok" for v2.5.7.0. The fact is that v2.5.7.0 has been working fine for a long time... I'll probably wait a couple revisions and then start enforcing v2.5.8.0 as the only "Ok". The only issue I've found is when creating DVD output -- and that seem to be selective.

[Ch3vr0n]

It will already say v2.5.8.0 is "Ok" -- but will also say "Ok" for v2.5.7.0. The fact is that v2.5.7.0 has been working fine for a long time... I'll probably wait a couple revisions and then start enforcing v2.5.8.0 as the only "Ok". The only issue I've found is when creating DVD output -- and that seem to be selective.

You must have missed my post then. http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1503653&postcount=12097 HP5 backup failed with 2.57 but worked with 2.58.

did get some weird behavior though. If i play the back up on my computer, both movie and extras have audio. If i play the backup on my standalone, only the movie has audio. Extra's play fine but no audio :s

[jdobbs]

You must have missed my post then. http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1503653&postcount=12097 HP5 backup failed with 2.57 but worked with 2.58.

did get some weird behavior though. If i play the back up on my computer, both movie and extras have audio. If i play the backup on my standalone, only the movie has audio. Extra's play fine but no audio :s I read it -- but I have doubts it is definitely v2.5.7 that is the cause (without some other contributing factor), mainly because if it were that alone it would have been reported by many, many users. v2.5.7.0 has been in use with BD-RB for over two years now. I also ran Harry Potter 5 with v2.5.7.0 on my computer and had no issues

[Ch3vr0n]

well then i don't know why it failed with 2.57 but worked with 2.58. However now i have a weird audio problem on playback lo, think i'll get a batch of double layer blanks even though they're expensive. That way i'll be able to back it up without much hassle and have printable double layers for my future 3D discs :)

[steveg32]

@steveg32 and others who have reported sync issues on DVD-5/9 output.


I think I've found a connection. On my test computer I had upgraded to AVISYNTH v2.58 some time ago so I can certify it as the recommended version. When I removed it and reinstalled v2.57 (the currrent recommendation) I was able to repeat the sync issue on certain discs. When I reinstall v2.58, the problem is solved.

So, though it is still not completely clear why, it appears that the DVD-5/9 audio synchronization problem is linked to using the combination of HC Encoder and AVISYNTH 2.57.

Since I have been running v2.58 for some time now, I am confident it is safe to use and I have now updated the first link of this thread so that it now links to that version.

@steveg32

Can you please download and install this version of AVISYNTH (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_258.exe) and report if it corrects your issue?

Thanks.

@jdobbs

Big mahalos! AviSynth v2.58 fixed ALL DVD output sync issues. Also, no more oversizing too! You're amazing brah. But what I most appreciate about you is your tenacity. You never give up. True warrior spirit. Aloha, jdobbs u da man! :)

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Big mahalos! AviSynth v2.58 fixed ALL DVD output sync issues. Also, no more oversizing too! You're amazing brah. But what I most appreciate about you is your tenacity. You never give up. True warrior spirit. Aloha, jdobbs u da man! :) Now that you mention it -- the output from my test run was larger with v2.57 also -- mahalo back at you for the follow-up.

Go Swords.

[Jonaldinho]

I have a 1080p video and because I live in the UK it's 25fps, it's not a movie it's a video from a videographer who gave me the HD file and I would like it to be playable on a blu-ray device. I know for blu-ray compliancy at 25fps it needs to be interlaced, I typed in the hidden option DEINTERLACER_TYPE=4 for fake interlaced, it's currently encoding the 2nd pass but the LASTCMD doesn't have --fake-interlaced in the script so I was wondering will it still be fake interlaced? Do I need to enable "use DEINTERLACER on interlaced sources" for fake interlaced to work? Thanks

[jdobbs]

I have a 1080p video and because I live in the UK it's 25fps, it's not a movie it's a video from a videographer who gave me the HD file and I would like it to be playable on a blu-ray device. I know for blu-ray compliancy at 25fps it needs to be interlaced, I typed in the hidden option DEINTERLACER_TYPE=4 for fake interlaced, it's currently encoding the 2nd pass but the LASTCMD doesn't have --fake-interlaced in the script so I was wondering will it still be fake interlaced? Do I need to enable "use DEINTERLACER on interlaced sources" for fake interlaced to work? Thanks Yes, you need to enable it. The deinterlacer type only applys when "Use Deinterlacer" is selected.

[Jonaldinho]

Yes, you need to enable it. The deinterlacer type only applys when "Use Deinterlacer" is selected.

OK thanks. I enabled it to deinterlace in the setup, it's on the 2nd pass now and the LASTCMD script still doesn't have fake-interlaced in the script. Is this right?

"O:\BD Rebuilder 38.03\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "L:\BACK UP MEDIA\BLU-RAY\VIDEO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS"
--preset slower --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0
--bitrate 29869 --level 4.1 --qpfile "L:\BACK UP MEDIA\BLU-RAY\VIDEO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP"
--sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1
--ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input
--stats "L:\BACK UP MEDIA\BLU-RAY\VIDEO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats"
--pass 2 --output "L:\BACK UP MEDIA\BLU-RAY\VIDEO\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

[jdobbs]

You're right. I just looked at the code. It isn't adding the "--fake-interlaced" because the source is 1080p. Since 1080p/25 isn't a legal BD source, BD-RB doesn't have a condition for that occurance. I'll have to add it just to cover all bases (and for 1080p/29.97 as well). Right now that command line will create output that is out-of-standard.

In the meantime, you can add this to your INI file:

TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--fake-interlaced
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--fake-interlaced

Don't forget to remove the lines after your encode is complete, as it will affect all encodes until you do.

[Jonaldinho]

I'm glad i've raised awareness to help eliminate a problem. I've added the tweaked x264 command and it has successfully been added to the LASTCMD script. Thanks a lot.

[europeman]

Does Rebuilder support any of these similar technologies to speak up process

[jdobbs]

No. It does not use any "special features" or dependencies that requires specific hardware. I do that purposely.

[Capsbackup]

I have found a strange occurance doing a full movie backup to BD9 of the movie I AM Number Four. The deleted scenes are listed as 18:58 on the original disc. On the BD-RBV03803 backup, the same deleted scenes are listed as 30:39. :confused:
These scenes are 1080P, 23.976fps. There are numerous duplicate .m2ts files within the same playlist 00329.mpls.
Could this be the problem, that BD-RB is not making the necessary reference corrections?

[jdobbs]

I have found a strange occurance doing a full movie backup to BD9 of the movie I AM Number Four. The deleted scenes are listed as 18:58 on the original disc. On the BD-RBV03803 backup, the same deleted scenes are listed as 30:39. :confused:
These scenes are 1080P, 23.976fps. There are numerous duplicate .m2ts files within the same playlist 00329.mpls.
Could this be the problem, that BD-RB is not making the necessary reference corrections? Don't know. I'll try that one and see what happens.

Do they appear to play correctly?

[Capsbackup]

Don't know. I'll try that one and see what happens.

Do they appear to play correctly?

They play correctly until the last deleted scene, where the video freezes on the screen at the last 5 seconds or so, while the audio continues to completion.

[jdobbs]

They play correctly until the last deleted scene, where the video freezes on the screen at the last 5 seconds or so, while the audio continues to completion. Weird. If the audio is that long (full time), it makes you wonder why the original's time was shorter? The data was there, but didn't show in the original time... easter eggs, maybe?

[Capsbackup]

Weird. If the audio is that long (full time), it makes you wonder why the original's time was shorter? The data was there, but didn't show in the original time... easter eggs, maybe?

I'm pretty sure there is no easter eggs. My suspicion is this multiple, duplicate m2ts files within this playlist is the cause. I can't be certain, but this is the only thing I can see as to this backup having a different time than the original.

By the way, this was a pretty good movie too. :)

[Ch3vr0n]

Just wanted to let ya know jdobbs, i ran a couple more tests and was able to backup HP5 with avs 2.58

[jdobbs]

Just wanted to let ya know jdobbs, i ran a couple more tests and was able to backup HP5 with avs 2.58

Good to know, I sure wouldn't have thought AVISYNTH 2.57 could be the problem. But as long as its working...

Thanks.

[bassnut]

I am just ripping I Am Number Four now and will let BD Rebuilder run though there is no way I will be able to stay up for another 4 hours tonigh will let you know what happens in the early am. Anything s[eciffic you want to know or for me too look for?

[Ch3vr0n]

I think it crashed because vid_00033 and vid_00002 were generating the message "encoding secondairy ..." however when lookin on the expanded entry in the filetree, there is no secondairy video stream present nor a secondairy audio stream. Those were also the only 2 streams in the tree that were listed with ** next to the fps rate.

vid_00033 VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps** 587.15MB
vid_00002 VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps** 2.239,99MB

I think since there was no second stream in those stream, AVS crashed. But that only a guess for me. I'm not that experienced as you are :)

[Capsbackup]

Weird. If the audio is that long (full time), it makes you wonder why the original's time was shorter? The data was there, but didn't show in the original time... easter eggs, maybe?

To try and make better sense of what is going on for this movie, here is some additional info from the original Blu-ray:

1) 00329.mpls, 0:18:59
[514+503+502+503+505+504+505+507+506+507+509+508+509+511+510+511+512+513+512].m2ts
- Chapters, 13 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- AC3, English, stereo, 48kHz

The times listed for the original playlist 00329.mpls per BDInfo:

00514.m2ts = :33
00503.m2ts = :06
00502.m2ts = :58
00503.m2ts = 1:21
00505.m2ts = :06
00504.m2ts = 1:14
00505.m2ts = 3:06
00507.m2ts = :06
00506.m2ts = :51
00507.m2ts = :30
00509.m2ts = :06
00508.m2ts = 1:07
00509.m2ts = 1:20
00511.m2ts = :06
00510.m2ts = 1:02
00511.m2ts = 1:20
00512.m2ts = :07
00513.m2ts = :55
00512.m2ts = 3:57

The BD-RB reencoded playlist for 00329.mpls:

00514.m2ts = :33
00503.m2ts = 1:28
00502.m2ts = :58
00503.m2ts = 1:21
00505.m2ts = 3:14
00504.m2ts = 1:15
00505.m2ts = 3:06
00507.m2ts = :37
00506.m2ts = :51
00507.m2ts = :30
00509.m2ts = 1:27
00508.m2ts = 1:07
00509.m2ts = 1:20
00511.m2ts = 1:26
00510.m2ts = 1:02
00511.m2ts = 1:20
00512.m2ts = 4:04
00513.m2ts = :55
00512.m2ts = 3:57

After doing the math, reducing the times of the six duplicate files above is the difference. Now why these duplicate files and why BD-RB treats them the way it does, not matching the original is the question! :p

[thegame]

Sorry if this has been answered before but, does BD-RB work with 3D Blu-ray movies? I have decided to make the jump to 3D and have all the gear coming and was wondering this.

Thanks

[Capsbackup]

Sorry if this has been answered before but, does BD-RB work with 3D Blu-ray movies? I have decided to make the jump to 3D and have all the gear coming and was wondering this.

Thanks

No it does not. :(

[Ch3vr0n]

There currenly is only 1 way of backing up 3D blu-rays, and thats a 1:1 backup (or covert to a side-by-side portable file afaik with DVDCrap, buts thats not a real backup. Its a conversion)

[jdobbs]

Sorry if this has been answered before but, does BD-RB work with 3D Blu-ray movies? I have decided to make the jump to 3D and have all the gear coming and was wondering this.

Thanks Unfortunately the real stumbling block for 3D backups right now is a method for writing them. On a 3D disc there are blocks that are referenced by more than one file. Right now there is no popular burning software (that I know of) that would support that. Even if it did, a calling program would have to give a lot of information to the software to tell it which parts of which files are to be shared.

The only current way to get around that is to have the blocks duplicated -- which would be exceptionally inefficient.

[thegame]

Unfortunately the real stumbling block for 3D backups right now is a method for writing them. On a 3D disc there are blocks that are referenced by more than one file. Right now there is no popular burning software (that I know of) that would support that. Even if it did, a calling program would have to give a lot of information to the software to tell it which parts of which files are to be shared.

The only current way to get around that is to have the blocks duplicated -- which would be exceptionally inefficient.

Thanks, I assumed it couldn't be done, but I thought I would ask.

[bassnut]

I Am Number Four.

Extras are all encoded twiced as previously posted thopugh some do not have the directors comentary defore the clip. All play fine and I didn't have any freezes as Cap's did. Should not that this is only evident when you click on play all if you select the individual Deleted Sceen it just plays once.

[MickJT]

On a 3D disc there are blocks that are referenced by more than one file. Right now there is no popular burning software (that I know of) that would support that. Even if it did, a calling program would have to give a lot of information to the software to tell it which parts of which files are to be shared.

The only current way to get around that is to have the blocks duplicated -- which would be exceptionally inefficient.

You got me thinking. I've mentioned in another thread my opinions & theories on how it works, but I now think it's more likely the .ssif files are the real files, and the .m2ts files are the virtual files. It makes more sense if you think about how the drive & laser read the disc; It would be much more efficient and not wear out the motor as much, and also be faster, to have the .ssif as the non-virtual file.

[k-c-ksum]

this looks interesting

http://www.sisveltechnology.com/3D_tile_format.asp

720p 3D from a 1920x1080.

Your 3DTV would need to support it but it would get around the need for MVC and siff file creation. AVISYNTH could take care of the tiling :)

how much res could be created if the source material is 2:40.1 as the black space wouldnt need to be encoded? Something to look at a bit furher down the road prehaps?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs, @thegame

For what MAY prove to be a pleasant surprise, try specifically using MakeMKV to rip "Dinosaurs Alive 3D" and then perform a FULL DISC backup with BD Rebuilder.

As opposed to using AnyDVD, which copies the .SSIF files at their full 15.2Gb combined filesizes (apparently essentially duplicates of most of the .M2TS files), it appears that MakeMKV is able to extract the pertinent data (likely primarily pointers) from the .SSIF files - and save it as a miniscule total of 56.2Kb in five "SSIF.MAP" files.

File 00008.M2TS contains the 2D full movie (8.86Gb), while file 00009.M2TS (4.67Gb) apparently contains the required additional information for 3D display. I'd speculate that 00009.M2TS likely has to remain uncompressed - and it does when using BD-RB . (I say "I'd speculate" because I do not presently have the required hardware to playback "new 3D" discs)...

Note: After compressing with BD Rebuilder, you'll have to manually copy the five tiny ".SSIF.MAP" files into the "SSIF" sub-folder.

[jdobbs]

I have found a strange occurance doing a full movie backup to BD9 of the movie I AM Number Four. The deleted scenes are listed as 18:58 on the original disc. On the BD-RBV03803 backup, the same deleted scenes are listed as 30:39. :confused:
These scenes are 1080P, 23.976fps. There are numerous duplicate .m2ts files within the same playlist 00329.mpls.
Could this be the problem, that BD-RB is not making the necessary reference corrections? I ran this one and was able to repeat it. It was caused by the fact that some CLPI/M2TS pairs were referenced more than once within the same MPLS and one of them was for partial playback. A fix I had added into v0.34.06 (to correct a TSMUXER end-time glitch and resulting "stutter") needed to be tweaked to consider the possibility of multiple-reference/partial playback.

I've fixed it for the next release.

[Capsbackup]

I ran this one and was able to repeat it. It was caused by the fact that some CLPI/M2TS pairs were referenced more than once within the same MPLS and one of them was for partial playback. A fix I had added into v0.34.06 (to correct a TSMUXER end-time glitch and resulting "stutter") needed to be tweaked to consider the possibility of multiple-reference/partial playback.

I've fixed it for the next release.

Thanks again! :) I am impressed with your continued vigilance. ;)

[Acerjen]

Jdobbs,

I have a question about DTS Express and how it differs from
AC3 Plus.

I have backed up a few movies that use AC3 Plus instead of DTS Express for the PIP track and it works fine in the final BD-25 disc. Everything is in sync. I assume this works because TSMUXER supports AC3 Plus but not DTS Express? So, I was curious what the difference is. I was also wondering if it would be possible to convert DTS Express tracks to AC3 plus and then use TSMUXER to put it back together? I was curious and thought maybe you would know the answer.

I would also like to thank you for such an awesome program and all the time you put into it. Thanks.

Later,
Acerjen

[PurpleMan]

Unfortunately the real stumbling block for 3D backups right now is a method for writing them. On a 3D disc there are blocks that are referenced by more than one file. Right now there is no popular burning software (that I know of) that would support that. Even if it did, a calling program would have to give a lot of information to the software to tell it which parts of which files are to be shared.

The only current way to get around that is to have the blocks duplicated -- which would be exceptionally inefficient.

Actually, wouldn't it be sufficient to have a program that can write such ISO files? (then use any burning software to write that ISO)

[jdobbs]

Actually, wouldn't it be sufficient to have a program that can write such ISO files? (then use any burning software to write that ISO) Yes, but typically the ISO is created by the same (or similar) program that writes it.

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs,

I have a question about DTS Express and how it differs from
AC3 Plus.

I have backed up a few movies that use AC3 Plus instead of DTS Express for the PIP track and it works fine in the final BD-25 disc. Everything is in sync. I assume this works because TSMUXER supports AC3 Plus but not DTS Express? So, I was curious what the difference is. I was also wondering if it would be possible to convert DTS Express tracks to AC3 plus and then use TSMUXER to put it back together? I was curious and thought maybe you would know the answer.

I would also like to thank you for such an awesome program and all the time you put into it. Thanks.

Later,
Acerjen It would work fine to convert DTS Express to AC3 Plus. But TSMUXER can't demux DTS Express, and I don't know of a freeware CODEC that will play it back (so you can reencode it).

[drmih]

Jdobbs,

I have a question about DTS Express and how it differs from
AC3 Plus.

I have backed up a few movies that use AC3 Plus instead of DTS Express for the PIP track and it works fine in the final BD-25 disc. Everything is in sync. I assume this works because TSMUXER supports AC3 Plus but not DTS Express? So, I was curious what the difference is. I was also wondering if it would be possible to convert DTS Express tracks to AC3 plus and then use TSMUXER to put it back together? I was curious and thought maybe you would know the answer.

I would also like to thank you for such an awesome program and all the time you put into it. Thanks.

Later,
Acerjen

This is one of those things which keeps cropping up and you revisit it and then think there may be an easy solution, only to find there's always one link missing. I understand that eac3to will read / demux DTS-E and E-AC3, but I've never seen an ability to encode to E-AC3. eac3to picks up commercial codecs (which may be on your machine if you've installed TMT or Power DVD) but I can find no mention of, for instance, demuxing DTS-E and encoding it to E-AC3 - it seems to have to be to a format such as ac3, wav etc. Given the number of great brains who would have their eye out for a solution to the PiP issue, I guess it's not possible, rather than nobody's tried. With TsMuxer frozen, maybe the author of eac3to might be able to do what you suggest, as I think the remux of DTS-E might be too problematic.

[shon3i]

eac3to (in order is much better than tsmuxer for demuxing, and safer for streams that will be direct stream copyed) can demux/decode dts-e IIRC and here is freeware e-ac3 encoder (aften extension/patch from developer) http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=161383, maybe is not best but will satisfy needs here (i hope that secondary audio not need core track as primary e-ac3 does, i am not sure but i can check), it probably will create same quality like ac3 at same bitrate, but that is not bad at all for first time :)

[drmih]

Thanks - sounds interesting. Currently if I process an m2ts file with dts-express I can use the .dts setting within eac3to. Does eac3to automatically pick up aften, and thus should you be able to just put a suitable suffix in the command line for it automatically encode to e-ac3?

**As an initial test I have extracted a dts-express PiP audio track and I got a perfect ac3 files using Aften, therefore if the beta version of Aften does make a E-AC3 file, can this be remuxed back into the m2ts file to test?

eac3to p:\LET_ME_IN_2010\BMDV\STREAM\00001.M2TS 6: audio.ac3
DTS Express, 2.0 channels, 1:55:48, 24 bits, 192kbps, 48kHz
Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder...
Encoding AC3 <448kbps> with libAften...
Creating file "audio.ac3"...
eac3to processing took 2 minutes, 42 seconds.
Done.

[shon3i]

Thanks - sounds interesting. Currently if I process an m2ts file with dts-express I can use the .dts setting within eac3to. Does eac3to automatically pick up aften, and thus should you be able to just put a suitable suffix in the command line for it automatically encode to e-ac3?
No there is no compiled bulds of aften that support eac3 (i didn't see) and eac3to uses aftenlib, so no eac3 encoding inside eac3to at least not yet. But still i am not sure (someone correct me if i wrong) and don't know that eac3to can decode dtse or just can demux it.

eac3 encoding will be now easy, but still need to check that secondary audio need core (normal ac3), that will broke completely idea and back to beginning

[jdobbs]

My plan has always been to manually pull the DTS-E audio packets from the source M2TS, manipulate the timestamps appropriately, and reinsert it in the output stream. It's already very efficiently encoded, so I see no need to go through all the decoding/reencoding. I wrote the code to do the extract/insert, but haven't been able to make it work without causing "stutter" in the output, so I haven't released it for any testing outside myself. I'm not sure yet what I'm doing wrong.

[drmih]

Just out of interest, is the stuttering limited to the secondary audio, or does it impact the video? Is it possible that the stuttering is player dependent?

[shon3i]

My plan has always been to manually pull the DTS-E audio packets from the source M2TS, manipulate the timestamps appropriately, and reinsert it in the output stream. It's already very efficiently encoded, so I see no need to go through all the decoding/reencoding. I wrote the code to do the extract/insert, but haven't been able to make it work without causing "stutter" in the output, so I haven't released it for any testing outside myself. I'm not sure yet what I'm doing wrong.
I agree, but from this point it's completely irrelevant since quality will not drop (reencoding will not affect that much since bitrate can be up 256kbps and eac3 encoding is efficient as much ac3 is), and it's secondary audio, who cares anyway. Reinserting is not good idea (there is ton of PES/DTS extensions,flags, ...) and tsmuxer support eac3, but you maybe success, you may need more samples ?

[jdobbs]

Just out of interest, is the stuttering limited to the secondary audio, or does it impact the video? Is it possible that the stuttering is player dependent? It's everything.

No. I have four different players that I use for testing, two Sonys and two Samsungs. It does play ok on the computer -- but that's always a bad test.

[jdobbs]

I agree, but from this point it's completely irrelevant since quality will not drop (reencoding will not affect that much since bitrate can be up 256kbps and eac3 encoding is efficient as much ac3 is), and it's secondary audio, who cares anyway. Reinserting is not good idea (there is ton of PES/DTS extensions,flags, ...) and tsmuxer support eac3, but you maybe success, you may need more samples ? I'm very aware of all the timestamps -- I manipulate them already in other areas. There are times when you just can't use the timestamps created by TSMUXER (especially in menus or sources with out-of-mux substreams) and you have to set the stream's timestamps back to match the original.

[Capsbackup]

There appears to be a problem with the english or any subtitles being forced on with no option to turn them off through the menu or through the remote. I am using BD-RBV03803 to make a full backup of True Blood season 3. I have tried two different times now, with the same results. Subtitles are always on regardless if the subtitle set up page says they are off. There is no way to turn them off. :confused:
The original does not display this same behavior. I have not had this happen on any other title, so perhaps True Blood Season 3 is unique... damn vampires! :rolleyes: :p

[apophis906]

I agree, but from this point it's completely irrelevant since quality will not drop (reencoding will not affect that much since bitrate can be up 256kbps and eac3 encoding is efficient as much ac3 is), and it's secondary audio, who cares anyway. Reinserting is not good idea (there is ton of PES/DTS extensions,flags, ...) and tsmuxer support eac3, but you maybe success, you may need more samples ?

The problem from my understanding is that reencoding would make the audio useless. The dts-express track has metadate inside of it that controls the volume of the secondary track as well as the main track and the mixing of the tracks together. Once you decode the audio you would loose that metadata and would then have no way for the player to know how to set the two audio tracks. Could end up with both tracks playing and full volume the whole time. This is from the DTS site.
To ensure that the audio mix comes out perfectly, DTS-HD employs an innovative feature called Dynamic Mixing. When the movie or concert creators encode the Secondary or Sub audio, they include meta-data that will dynamically mix that audio with the primary audio. With Dynamic Mixing, you’ll continually have the correct sound balance — just as the producers intended.

[PurpleMan]

Yes, but typically the ISO is created by the same (or similar) program that writes it.

If you know (or can find out) how it needs to be done, maybe we can seek the help of ImgBurn's author to implement a feature that can write an ISO with mulit-referenced blocks.

Just an idea.

[jdobbs]

There appears to be a problem with the english or any subtitles being forced on with no option to turn them off through the menu or through the remote. I am using BD-RBV03803 to make a full backup of True Blood season 3. I have tried two different times now, with the same results. Subtitles are always on regardless if the subtitle set up page says they are off. There is no way to turn them off. :confused:
The original does not display this same behavior. I have not had this happen on any other title, so perhaps True Blood Season 3 is unique... damn vampires! :rolleyes: :pNot sure what could cause something like this. The subtitles are simply extracted and then remuxed with TSMUXER. There really is no processing done that could change the behaviour (except when resizing).

[Capsbackup]

Not sure what could cause something like this. The subtitles are simply extracted and then remuxed with TSMUXER. There really is no processing done that could change the behaviour (except when resizing).

No resizing, kept full 1080P. This set does not allow turning subtitles on / off by the remote subtitle button while the episode is playing. ( message pops up saying feature not allowed ) The only way to turn them on / off is through the languages button. By default they are off, but with the BD-RB backup they are always on, even though the setup says they are off! :confused:

EDIT:
If I select another language, then that language is displayed always, even though the subtitle selection button option says " None " for the subtitles to be displayed.

[drmih]

I had something very similar on 'the girl with the dragon tattoo' - I put it down to moving between Swedish and English soundtracks but I couldn't turn off the english subtitles - never got to the bottom of it and forgot to raise it.

[Capsbackup]

I had something very similar on 'the girl with the dragon tattoo' - I put it down to moving between Swedish and English soundtracks but I couldn't turn off the english subtitles - never got to the bottom of it and forgot to raise it.

I do not have this problem with The Girl With The Dragon tatoo. The english subtitles start on by default, but I can turn them off with the remote.

[jdobbs]

No resizing, kept full 1080P. This set does not allow turning subtitles on / off by the remote subtitle button while the episode is playing. ( message pops up saying feature not allowed ) The only way to turn them on / off is through the languages button. By default they are off, but with the BD-RB backup they are always on, even though the setup says they are off! :confused:

EDIT:
If I select another language, then that language is displayed always, even though the subtitle selection button option says " None " for the subtitles to be displayed. Are you ripping with AnyDVD HD? Any settings selected that might change the commands?

[Winenut]

:thanks:I apologize if I posted this in the wrong spot, but I could not find any post specifically dealing with this problem.

I've been using BD Rebuilder for quite some time, and I must say it's a great tool and very reliable. I've encountered very few problems...and the results are often amazing.

But very recently I encountered some issues with a couple of Blu-Ray discs (where the movie is in the 38-39GB range). These both were shot in a soft look, which appears to cause some issues and results in VERY HIGH bit rates even when compressed down to a BD25. In particular is AI (Artificial Intelligence), where I've noticed that BD Rebuilder has a number of sequences where the re-encoded bitrate exceeds the original (which was already high). Generally these are in the low 40 mbps range, which is above the Blu-Ray standard.

Interesting these high bitrate sections playback ok on my Sony BX-37. However, generally each time there is a bitrate spike it's followed by scene using a lower bit rate...and quite often when this occurs, the video freezes for 1-2 seconds and resumes. This only happens when played on my BX-37 (which is update to date with regard to firmware). Since this only happens for the two films where BD Rebuilder pushed the bitrate above 40, and does not occur for any other film I've re-encoded with BD Rebuilder, I'm thinking it's related to that excessively high bitrate.

Many of these high bit rate scenes are low-contrast without obvious reason for the high bitrate...except that they are complex video scenes with low-contract and that semi-frosted look that some film makers are striving for.

Except for the freezing, the end result look great. In fact, the re-encode is slightly sharper with less noise.

Now I've tried all the possible settings (High Speed, Good, Better, High Quality, and Highest Quality)...and this is one movie where the highest encoding actually makes it better without introducing DNR artifacts and without adding additional softness or reducing the color, or shifting the color.

All resulted in at least some freezing, with the Highest Quality setting introducing the most...mainly because it introduced the most high bitrate spikes.

So my question is...is there a way or and option to limit the maximum bitrate to under 40 mbps?

Note than when I compressed down to a BD5 (which still looks ok), the playback appeared without any freezing. Which tends to imply the problem is the high bit rate...

[jdobbs]

How are you determining that the bitrate is above 40Mbs? BD Rebuilder already has code that limits the average bitrate in the command line -- and the maximum (--vbv-maxrate) is always set to 35Mbs or below (occasionally the combined audio bitrate drives it lower).

If you're seeing spikes above 40Mbs, I'd have to believe there may be some glitch in X264's limiting algorithm. A player should be able to handle spikes through it's buffering, but they have to be very short.

[Capsbackup]

Are you ripping with AnyDVD HD? Any settings selected that might change the commands?

Yes I am ripping with AnyDVD HD, and I have not changed any rip settings. The original rip on my hard drive works properly with TMT3 and PowerDVD. The original Blu-ray disc plays properly as well on my Sony S360 and BX1.
The BD-RE of the BD-RB backup has the subtitles on all the time regardless of playing back on my S360, BX1 or Power DVD and TMT3.
I always burn to disc for the ultimate test of standalone playback. I became suspicious when the software playback had the subtitles on all the time. So this reporting is only after confirming that as well as exhausting all other reasons on my end!:p
I have tried two different Blu-ray titles after this problem, ripping them with AnyDVD HD with no changes, doing full backups with BD-RBV03803, and I cannot repeat this issue. So it seams to be related to True Blood S3 D1. I have not tried discs 2-5 yet, but I will and let you know if this happens on these discs too. ;)

[juardis]

Hi all, very useful forum. Did a search on Pacific, got this thread as a hit, and, well, it's a bazillion pages. I spent some time looking through it but as you can imagine, no luck. So anyway...

Trying to back up my Blu disc set of The Pacific. No problems with Discs 1, 2, and 4 so far, but Disc 3 is stumping me. I'm selecting BD-R since that's what I'm backing up to but the file size after BD Builder is a couple hundred sectors larger than the BD-R. I've tried custom size, but same problem. I really don't want to go to DVD DL so what's the trick to forcing a couple hundred sectors off this rebuild?

Particulars:
BDRebuilder ver 38.03 beta
ImgBurn v2.5.5.0 reports file size as 12,283,158 sectors and BD-R as 12,281,442 sectors.

Tried to backup anyway, ran out of space, backup failed.

Any suggestions?

[jdobbs]

Hi all, very useful forum. Did a search on Pacific, got this thread as a hit, and, well, it's a bazillion pages. I spent some time looking through it but as you can imagine, no luck. So anyway...

Trying to back up my Blu disc set of The Pacific. No problems with Discs 1, 2, and 4 so far, but Disc 3 is stumping me. I'm selecting BD-R since that's what I'm backing up to but the file size after BD Builder is a couple hundred sectors larger than the BD-R. I've tried custom size, but same problem. I really don't want to go to DVD DL so what's the trick to forcing a couple hundred sectors off this rebuild?

Particulars:
BDRebuilder ver 38.03 beta
ImgBurn v2.5.5.0 reports file size as 12,283,158 sectors and BD-R as 12,281,442 sectors.

Tried to backup anyway, ran out of space, backup failed.

Any suggestions? Do you have the log for that encode? It would also be helpful to see the INF file. It's more important to find the cause of the oversize and fix it than to simply post a tweak to make it fit.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I can confirm the exact same problem with disc 2 of True Blood Season 3. :(

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
I can confirm the exact same problem with disc 2 of True Blood Season 3. :( Can you post your INI so I can test it with the same settings? Ughh... I really hate vampire movies. Zombies are so much more fun. :) Why couldn't you have found the problem in "Shaun of the Dead" or "Zombieland"? Hmmm -- maybe I should try "The Pacific Disc 3" instead...

[Capsbackup]

Can you post your INI so I can test it with the same settings? Ughh... I really hate vampire movies. Zombies are so much more fun. :) Why couldn't you have found the problem in "Shaun of the Dead" or "Zombieland"?

I never watched either of those two movies, not my favorite either. True Blood is for my daughter, she's the fan. :p
This last test was done at quickest setting to BD5 for DVD+RW testing so bitrates will be quite low. The first test was to BD9, but I since have run this latest test, so I don't have that INI.
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V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1406
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28668542
NSIZE=8546304
FLINK=0
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[00037]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=9634911
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1506
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28668542
NSIZE=7809024
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00038]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=9702239
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1366
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28668542
NSIZE=8294400
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00039]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=9704162
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1396
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28670418
NSIZE=8712192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00040]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=12342125
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1441
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29130253
NSIZE=11218944
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00041]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=12292751
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1428
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29120868
NSIZE=10758144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00042]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=77233181
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1301
NSTART=27000000
NEND=40239476
NSIZE=65961984
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00043]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=15923316
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1478
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29755252
NSIZE=14419968
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00044]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=24084713
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1387
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31146017
NSIZE=21295104
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00045]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=26606615
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1429
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31590836
NSIZE=23494656
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00046]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=24192437
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1394
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31166662
NSIZE=20754432
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00047]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=24016744
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1420
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31142263
NSIZE=21178368
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00048]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=24042393
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1400
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31142263
NSIZE=21614592
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00049]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=12265820
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1510
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29124622
NSIZE=10450944
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00050]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=26552753
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1472
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31592713
NSIZE=22554624
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00051]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=26695103
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1376
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31592713
NSIZE=22659072
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00052]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=26618798
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1471
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31603974
NSIZE=22837248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00053]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=26641882
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1413
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31592713
NSIZE=23808000
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00054]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=31847273
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1406
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32489859
NSIZE=27082752
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00055]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=31056654
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1296
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32495490
NSIZE=26425344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00056]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111111111000
M2TS_TARGET=1188820174
VIDEO2=57202741.5966387
V2MBRATE=7000
RATE=1493
NSTART=27000000
NEND=178284960
NSIZE=1173817344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00057]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4101217
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2031
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27673798
NSIZE=4208640
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00059]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=5626670
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1305
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27930930
NSIZE=5412864
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00061]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4102500
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2032
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27673798
NSIZE=4288512
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00062]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4102500
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2032
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27673798
NSIZE=4270080
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00065]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=28468707
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1324
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32048793
NSIZE=24545280
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00068]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=60682114
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1242
NSTART=27000000
NEND=37707572
NSIZE=52058112
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00069]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=21858411
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1507
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30915161
NSIZE=18683904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00070]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=28475760
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1317
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32045040
NSIZE=24416256
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00071]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=9470119
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1225
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28668542
NSIZE=8017920
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00072]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=46257961
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1303
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35188805
NSIZE=40464384
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00073]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=33947256
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1308
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33013507
NSIZE=28452864
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00074]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=17037749
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=1294
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30016138
NSIZE=14751744
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00075]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=641
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=200
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27043168
NSIZE=12288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00076]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4098011
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2030
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27673798
NSIZE=4270080
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00077]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4096088
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2029
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27673798
NSIZE=4220928
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[worknstiff]

Hey everyone, I know this has probably been discussed before but I can't remember the answer or maybe there is a new recomendation now for tne newest version. I have some concert BD disks that I am backing up and they are mostly 1080i VC-1 29.97 video. I noticed that these files have the little asterick " ** " indicator in the stream section but when it shows the source in the log section while processing the "**" are not shown. What is the best method to keep the BD_RB output smooth like the original, without judders or smearing? Does BD_Rebuilder leave the output still interlaced like the original if you take out the checkmark from "use DEINTERLACER on interlaced sources? Also while we are on this subject what about the use "IVCT sources with 3.2 pulldown? What is the very best solution for 1080i output for NTSC 29.97?
PS: thanks, dobbs for this great program, when I get over paying for the new computer I will be sure to send another donation. I think I wore out the old one with BD_RB, LOL!

[omegaman7]

I didn't know it was possible to wear a computer out like that LOL! My 2001 HP is still kicking, and I worked it like a dog, with dvd shrink, dr. divx, etc.

[jdobbs]

Hey everyone, I know this has probably been discussed before but I can't remember the answer or maybe there is a new recomendation now for tne newest version. I have some concert BD disks that I am backing up and they are mostly 1080i VC-1 29.97 video. I noticed that these files have the little asterick " ** " indicator in the stream section but when it shows the source in the log section while processing the "**" are not shown. What is the best method to keep the BD_RB output smooth like the original, without judders or smearing? Does BD_Rebuilder leave the output still interlaced like the original if you take out the checkmark from "use DEINTERLACER on interlaced sources? Also while we are on this subject what about the use "IVCT sources with 3.2 pulldown? What is the very best solution for 1080i output for NTSC 29.97?
PS: thanks, dobbs for this great program, when I get over paying for the new computer I will be sure to send another donation. I think I wore out the old one with BD_RB, LOL! You don't want to do IVTC on that source -- because the "**" indicates that it is hybrid. So BD-RB won't do IVTC unless you force it (see IVTC_SELECTION in HIDDENOPTS.TXT). Hybrid means that there are parts that use pulldown and other parts that are true interlaced. Normally for interlaced or hybrid sources I do no filtering and reencode it as interlaced. If, though, you plan to do much playback on a computer I would recommend you select "use DEINTERLACER". For a hybrid source I would also set DEINTERLACER_TYPE=3 in the INI file. That will tell BD-RB to use SmoothDeinterlace().

[sandrino3867]

[23:38:36] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: BEAN.1997.1080P.BLU-RAY.CEE.VC-1.DTS-HD.MA.5.1-RFW
- Input BD size: 29,06 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:02:24.670]
- Target BD size: 23,83 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:38:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:38:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [23:38:59] Reencoding: VID_00011 (1 of 3)
- [23:38:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 37.020 frames
- Bitrate: 6.400 Kbs
- [23:38:59] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:44:40] Video Encode complete
- [23:44:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:44:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:45:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50132]
- [23:45:09] Reencoding: VID_50132 (2 of 3)
- [23:45:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 6.810 frames
- Bitrate: 4.049 Kbs
- [23:45:09] Reencoding: VID_50132, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:46:04] Video Encode complete
- [23:46:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:46:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:46:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50133]
- [23:54:49] Reencoding: VID_50133 (3 of 3)
- [23:54:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 128.448 frames
- Bitrate: 28.142 Kbs
- [23:54:49] Reencoding: VID_50133, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
[23:54:52] - Failed video encode, aborted

[worknstiff]

@jdobbs, RE:Normally for interlaced or hybrid sources I do no filtering and reencode it as interlaced.

So for most 1080i and 1080i hybrid "**", if playing on STB just leave the use DEINTERLACER off, and no pulldown. Thanks for your input, that helps me with these music disks alot. Are these disks encoded in 1080i just because they originally for broadcast or for some technical reason? It seems like a lot of the music and documentary disks are encoded as 1080i. I was using a Hauppauge HD-1212 for a DVR and had success just changing the video to 720p for playback and got rid of the interlaced altogether but I don't think I could easily do these videos like that.

[setarip_old]

@sandrino3867

Hi!
Source: BEAN.1997.1080P.BLU-RAY.CEE.VC-1.DTS-HD.MA.5.1-RFWIf this descriptive title is something other than an original, commercial Blu-ray disc, that's likely the cause of your problem - and likely cannot be meaningfully addressed here...

[juardis]

Do you have the log for that encode? It would also be helpful to see the INF file. It's more important to find the cause of the oversize and fix it than to simply post a tweak to make it fit.
Is this the INF file? How do I save the log file? Simply cut and paste or is it stored somewhere on my computer? I'll do a rebuild if necessary. Right now I'm trying a rebuild with 23.4GB target size vs. 23.5GB, so we'll see if that makes a difference.

[Status]
LABEL=PACIFIC_DISC3
VERSION=v0.38.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39397548002
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=37854277632
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.610189047973642
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=43
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00088]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4671256
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27630720
NSIZE=3354624
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00017]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111011
M2TS_TARGET=20410728
VIDEO2=1572551.47058824
V2MBRATE=7000
RATE=9081
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27675360
NSIZE=6291456
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01019]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111011
M2TS_TARGET=39379594
VIDEO2=2689534.66386555
V2MBRATE=7000
RATE=9150
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28306080
NSIZE=11550720
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01018]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111011
M2TS_TARGET=39543577
VIDEO2=3118910.71428571
V2MBRATE=7000
RATE=9082
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28306080
NSIZE=11974656
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01047]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111011
M2TS_TARGET=39681151
VIDEO2=1660669.11764706
V2MBRATE=7000
RATE=9491
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28306080
NSIZE=10500096
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01035]
AUDIO=10
PGS=111011
M2TS_TARGET=39738972
VIDEO2=2640671.2184874
V2MBRATE=7000

[jdobbs]

The LOG is stored in the WORKING folder. It's called BD-REBUILDER.LOG and is a text file.

I ordered "The Pacific" for testing and hope to get it either tomorrow or the next day.

[jdobbs]

@sandrino3867

Did you edit the LOG you posted? There seems to be debug information missing after "- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok".

But since this appears to be a downloaded source I don't think I can help anyway -- there is too much likelihood that there are problems even before the encode. A lot of people who reencode and post those things are clueless and screw it up royally. Besides, it violates DOOM9 forum rules.

[Kerry56]

Here is my latest unsuccessful attempt at converting a blu ray to dvd-video using BDRebuilder.

21:35:38] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: THE_WAY_BACK
- Input BD size: 19.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:21.910]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-9, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:35:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:35:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [21:38:58] Reencoding: VID_00012 (1 of 2)
- [21:38:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 240 frames
- Bitrate: 7,996 Kbs
- [21:38:58] Reencoding: VID_00012
- [21:39:41] Video Encode complete
- [21:39:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:44:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:44:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [21:48:08] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 2)
- [21:48:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 191,614 frames
- Bitrate: 7,659 Kbs
- [21:48:08] Reencoding: VID_00006
- [04:38:55] Video Encode complete
- [04:38:55] Multiplexing M2TS
[04:38:55]PHASE ONE complete
[04:38:55]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [04:38:55] Rebuilding stream 00012 [1 of 2]
- [04:38:55] Rebuilding stream 00006 [2 of 2]
- [04:38:55] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [04:42:09] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [04:43:05] Starting MPLEX.
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MPLEX)
[04:46:38] - Failed to REBUILD


I took the m2v file and the ac3 audio from the WorkFiles folder and authored in DVDLab Pro successfully, so I've got a good result, but thought you might want to see the log.

[Ch3vr0n]

Where's the rest of it ?

[Phallius]

I am having problems with King's Speech.

I get to 8.80% then I get this error...

-----------------------
[19:45:36] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: BD_VIDEO
- Input BD size: 31.51 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:58:28.142]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:45:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:45:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 0
[19:46:59] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted



Goodfellas worke fine. Using W7 64 Ultimate.

[Ch3vr0n]

where's the rest of the log

[Ichinisan]

1. Download and install FFDSHOW (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/ffdshow_rev3326_20100319_clsid.exe) and the Haali Matroska Splitter (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/MatroskaSplitter.exe). They are required for BD-RB to work and are free. After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Do the same using "Audio Decoder Configuration" to ensure "Uncompressed" is set to "All Supported".
Could someone clarify this? There's no "enabled" option.

(screenshot)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/jevansturner/bdrebuilder_ffdshow_mpeg2_enable.png

How do I decide between "libavcodec" and "libmpeg2" options?

Thanks!

[jabberwockie]

Go easy on me. I hope this isnt too off topic as I dont know if its something to do with bd rebuilder or not but does anyone know what bd rebuilder may be doing to the files that keeps my Sony BDP-CX7000ES from finding the cover art and metadata for title, description etc. that would otherwise be pulled from Gracenote on the original disk?

[jdobbs]

@Ichinisan

Either choice is fine. I use "libavcodec"

[jdobbs]

Go easy on me. I hope this isnt too off topic as I dont know if its something to do with bd rebuilder or not but does anyone know what bd rebuilder may be doing to the files that keeps my Sony BDP-CX7000ES from finding the cover art and metadata for title, description etc. that would otherwise be pulled from Gracenote on the original disk? Those are typically stored in a folder other than BDMV or CERTIFICATE. BD-RB will copy them if they exist in the source -- but only for a full backup. But you have to make sure they are there before starting.

[jdobbs]

Hi all, very useful forum. Did a search on Pacific, got this thread as a hit, and, well, it's a bazillion pages. I spent some time looking through it but as you can imagine, no luck. So anyway...

Trying to back up my Blu disc set of The Pacific. No problems with Discs 1, 2, and 4 so far, but Disc 3 is stumping me. I'm selecting BD-R since that's what I'm backing up to but the file size after BD Builder is a couple hundred sectors larger than the BD-R. I've tried custom size, but same problem. I really don't want to go to DVD DL so what's the trick to forcing a couple hundred sectors off this rebuild?

Particulars:
BDRebuilder ver 38.03 beta
ImgBurn v2.5.5.0 reports file size as 12,283,158 sectors and BD-R as 12,281,442 sectors.

Tried to backup anyway, ran out of space, backup failed.

Any suggestions?Can you give me any specifics on your settings, and perhaps provide the INI file?

I ran "The Pacific", Disc 3 overnight and it sized to 24,336,711,840 bytes -- which will easily fit on a BD-25.

[jabberwockie]

Backing up to 25 gb disks and doing full backkups and wanted to know (generally speaking) what is the difference between Highest (very slow) and High Speed Option (BD-25)? Which one provides the best quality audio/video output?
thanks in advance!

I would also like to know if this thread is for bug reports only is there another thread for usage questions?


Does it help if I say it like the Double Rainbow Guy: "What Does it Mean!!"

[Ichinisan]

1. Download and install FFDSHOW (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/ffdshow_rev3326_20100319_clsid.exe) ... After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Do the same using "Audio Decoder Configuration" to ensure "Uncompressed" is set to "All Supported".Could someone clarify this? There's no "enabled" option.

(screenshot)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/jevansturner/bdrebuilder_ffdshow_mpeg2_enable.png

How do I decide between "libavcodec" and "libmpeg2" options?

Thanks!

Either choice is fine. I use "libavcodec"

Thanks. Maybe jdobbs can update the OP to reduce confusion.

Thanks for all your hard work, jdobbs!


[edit]
Also: If this how-to thread is meant for bug reports (as stated in the OP), is there another thread for usage questions?

[Winenut]

I would see the Bitrate displayed on my TV (via my Blu-Ray player)...which does show very short lived high rates. But after posting this question, I installed BDInfo and then Scanned the Bitrates on a number of Blu-Ray titles, including the original of A.I. and the copy. It includes categories for Peak Bitrates for 1 sec, 5 sec, and 10 sec duration. The original of A.I. only exceeded 40 mbps a few times in the 1 sec category. Never in the 5 or 10 sec category. The copy exceeded 40 mbps in both the 1 sec and 5 sec categories.

Now that was done using the Highest Quality setting to a target size of 24500 (which is normally what I use, as it works 98% of the time).

Last night re-encoded A.I. with a target size of 23500 to see if could reduce the high bit rates, and it helped. The copy only exceeds 40 mbps in the 1 sec category...though the highest at the 1 sec category exceeds the highest bit rate the original had (about 48 mbps).

I have not burned that to a BD yet, but will shortly and will check it out.

I'm thinking it's my player and not the encode...as I rarely encounter such problems. Though I did note a two occurances of a few dropped frames on another film last night. In one of the two cases, backing up and replaying did not reproduce the dropped frames and in the other case it was reproduceable. Not sure if the two are related.

And once again. As I did this film (A.I.) in all the quality modes, I did note that the High-Speed only included two such freezes, whereas the Highest Quality mode dozens of them. The various in-between showed more than the High-Speed mode but less than the Highest Quality mode. So my assuption is (without knowing for sure) is that as you go higher on the quality scale, the encoder is able to better determine where it should boost the bitrate, and where it can slack off a bit...to fit the target size. And the smaller the target size, the lower the max bit rate...

I have an I7-930 system (not overclocked) with 9GB memory. A.I. took about 9.5 hours at the highest quality setting. Which is quite a bit more than most films...which average anywhere between 4 and 6 hours using the Highest Quality mode.

BTW, the WB encode of A.I. looks fabulous. No DNR, no EE. Very sharp. Very detailed.

[Ichinisan]

Why is the "Blank this..." option always disabled when I right-click on an item? I really want to keep menus and such, but blank out studio intros and all that.

[A.Fenderson]

It hasn't yet been implemented, potential future feature.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I ran a full backup to BD5, and forgot to delete the extra files copied from the Anydvd HD rip. (ANY!, PS3_UPDATE, PS3_VPRM, PS3_DISC.SFB) These files total 177MB. Normally I would not think this is a big deal since I have selected "Keep only BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders" in Setup. The total file size of the backup was only 4.06GB.
So out of curiosity, I ran the same backup again using the exact same settings, except I deleted these files from the source folder. I noticed in the log of this new backup that the bitrates are higher on all files reencoded, and the final output was 4.22GB.
Could it be that BD-RB is not subtracting for these folders to allow for this extra available room when "Keep only BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders" is selected in Setup?

Test 1
-----------------------
[20:36:33] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: TALL_DARK_STRANGER
- Input BD size: 21.09 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:58:54.458]
- Target BD size: 4.44 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:36:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:36:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20:36:35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 10)
- [20:36:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 346 frames
- Bitrate: 1,897 Kbs
- [20:36:35] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:36:45] Video Encode complete
- [20:36:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:36:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:36:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [20:36:53] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 10)
- [20:36:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,124 frames
- Bitrate: 2,804 Kbs
- [20:36:53] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:37:48] Video Encode complete
- [20:37:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:37:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:37:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [20:52:01] Reencoding: VID_00011 (3 of 10)
- [20:52:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 141,792 frames
- Bitrate: 4,533 Kbs
- [20:52:01] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:14:49] Video Encode complete
- [23:14:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:16:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:18:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [23:18:52] Reencoding: VID_00021 (4 of 10)
- [23:18:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,360 frames
- Bitrate: 2,877 Kbs
- [23:18:52] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:20:39] Video Encode complete
- [23:20:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:20:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:20:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [23:20:56] Reencoding: VID_00022 (5 of 10)
- [23:20:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,343 frames
- Bitrate: 2,664 Kbs
- [23:20:56] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:23:08] Video Encode complete
- [23:23:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:23:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:23:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [23:23:18] Reencoding: VID_00081 (6 of 10)
- [23:23:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
- Bitrate: 2,947 Kbs
- [23:23:18] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:23:42] Video Encode complete
- [23:23:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:23:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:23:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [23:23:49] Reencoding: VID_00101 (7 of 10)
- [23:23:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- Bitrate: 4,212 Kbs
- [23:23:49] Reencoding: VID_00101, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:24:33] Video Encode complete
- [23:24:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:24:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:24:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [23:24:41] Reencoding: VID_00104 (8 of 10)
- [23:24:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- Bitrate: 4,249 Kbs
- [23:24:41] Reencoding: VID_00104, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:25:26] Video Encode complete
- [23:25:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:25:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:25:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [23:25:28] Reencoding: VID_00205 (9 of 10)
- [23:25:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 120 frames
- Bitrate: 3,543 Kbs
- [23:25:28] Reencoding: VID_00205, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:25:31] Video Encode complete
- [23:25:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:25:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:25:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_04999]
- [23:25:36] Reencoding: VID_04999 (10 of 10)
- [23:25:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 4,303 Kbs
- [23:25:36] Reencoding: VID_04999, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:26:23] Video Encode complete
- [23:26:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:26:23] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:26:25]PHASE ONE complete
[23:26:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:26:25] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:26:42] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

Test 2
-----------------------
[11:52:10] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: TALL_DARK_STRANGER
- Input BD size: 20.92 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:58:54.458]
- Target BD size: 4.44 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:52:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:52:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11:52:12] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 10)
- [11:52:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 346 frames
- Bitrate: 2,005 Kbs
- [11:52:12] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:52:26] Video Encode complete
- [11:52:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:52:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:52:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [11:52:36] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 10)
- [11:52:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,124 frames
- Bitrate: 2,989 Kbs
- [11:52:36] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:53:52] Video Encode complete
- [11:53:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:53:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:53:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [12:08:21] Reencoding: VID_00011 (3 of 10)
- [12:08:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 141,792 frames
- Bitrate: 4,754 Kbs
- [12:08:21] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:59:03] Video Encode complete
- [14:59:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:00:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:03:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [15:03:29] Reencoding: VID_00021 (4 of 10)
- [15:03:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,360 frames
- Bitrate: 3,025 Kbs
- [15:03:29] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:05:18] Video Encode complete
- [15:05:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:05:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:05:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [15:05:36] Reencoding: VID_00022 (5 of 10)
- [15:05:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,343 frames
- Bitrate: 2,803 Kbs
- [15:05:36] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:07:49] Video Encode complete
- [15:07:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:07:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:07:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [15:07:59] Reencoding: VID_00081 (6 of 10)
- [15:07:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
- Bitrate: 3,068 Kbs
- [15:07:59] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:08:24] Video Encode complete
- [15:08:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:08:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:08:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [15:08:32] Reencoding: VID_00101 (7 of 10)
- [15:08:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- Bitrate: 4,396 Kbs
- [15:08:32] Reencoding: VID_00101, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:09:17] Video Encode complete
- [15:09:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:09:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:09:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [15:09:25] Reencoding: VID_00104 (8 of 10)
- [15:09:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- Bitrate: 4,434 Kbs
- [15:09:25] Reencoding: VID_00104, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:10:10] Video Encode complete
- [15:10:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:10:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:10:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [15:10:13] Reencoding: VID_00205 (9 of 10)
- [15:10:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 120 frames
- Bitrate: 3,690 Kbs
- [15:10:13] Reencoding: VID_00205, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:10:15] Video Encode complete
- [15:10:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:10:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:10:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_04999]
- [15:10:21] Reencoding: VID_04999 (10 of 10)
- [15:10:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 4,481 Kbs
- [15:10:21] Reencoding: VID_04999, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:11:09] Video Encode complete
- [15:11:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:11:09] Multiplexing M2TS
[15:11:11]PHASE ONE complete
[15:11:11]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:11:11] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:11:28] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[15:11:28]JOB: TALL_DARK_STRANGER finished.

[jdobbs]

@Capsbackup

I'll take a look at the code and see if I may be somehow counting those files.

[Capsbackup]

@Capsbackup

I'll take a look at the code and see if I may be somehow counting those files.

I realize on a BD25 this amount would be inconsequential, but on a BD5/9, trying to "squeeze" every last MB :p could make a difference to someone. :rolleyes: ;)

Thanks for shortening this post for me, selected the wrong quotes code.. :)

[jdobbs]

I realize on a BD25 this amount would be inconsequential, but on a BD5/9, trying to "squeeze" every last MB :p could make a difference to someone. :rolleyes: ;)

Thanks for shortening this post for me, selected the wrong quotes code.. :) It looks like it is working properly and any folders other than BDMV and CERTIFICATE is ignores... were there any files in the ROOT folder?

[Capsbackup]

It looks like it is working properly and any folders other than BDMV and CERTIFICATE is ignores... were there any files in the ROOT folder?

The only files / folders were BDMV, CERTIFICATE, and the above mentioned extra folders. The backup did only keep the BDMV , CERTIFICATE and PS3_DISC.SFB, but this file is only 1.5kb.

From the above log, the only change was the input source size, which went from 21.09GB to 20.92GB. What got my attention was the higher bitrates for test 2, which was 221 kbps higher for the main movie than test 1, with only the additional folders removed!

[Ichinisan]

It hasn't yet been implemented, potential future feature.

I can de-select audio, but I can't blank the video? Damn. It's the only feature I really want. Is there a technical reason it can't blank out the unwanted video (trailers and such) to save space?

That would be the best way to fit many BD-50 movies on BD-25. Useless trailers and such can take up a lot of space and time to re-encode.

Is there an alternative that can do it? I thought BD-Rebuilder let me do it back when I made a Beauty and the Beast backup without re-encoding, but I guess all I did was remove the audio.

[A.Fenderson]

The only files / folders were BDMV, CERTIFICATE, and the above mentioned extra folders. The backup did only keep the BDMV , CERTIFICATE and PS3_DISC.SFB, but this file is only 1.5kb.

From the above log, the only change was the input source size, which went from 21.09GB to 20.92GB. What got my attention was the higher bitrates for test 2, which was 221 kbps higher for the main movie than test 1, with only the additional folders removed!

I had a similar experience (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1493510#post1493510)previously, and after a bit more info back and forth, jdobbs suggested (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1497748#post1497748)I check my config file and make sure that BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1 was set--and then I seem to have totally spaced out on that and didn't do it, but then again I was setting the option in the GUI, not the config, and only manually edited my config file once (for something unrelated), I think a few versions prior to the incident in question, and never carry them over. Anyway, might be worth checking.

[dfsooner]

I can de-select audio, but I can't blank the video? Damn. It's the only feature I really want. Is there a technical reason it can't blank out the unwanted video (trailers and such) to save space?

That would be the best way to fit many BD-50 movies on BD-25. Useless trailers and such can take up a lot of space and time to re-encode.

Is there an alternative that can do it? I thought BD-Rebuilder let me do it back when I made a Beauty and the Beast backup without re-encoding, but I guess all I did was remove the audio.

I use Clown_BD BD Copier to remove trailers, warnings, etc. It can be a little tricky sometimes and takes some effort, but it's worth it.

[jdobbs]

I can de-select audio, but I can't blank the video? Damn. It's the only feature I really want. Is there a technical reason it can't blank out the unwanted video (trailers and such) to save space?

That would be the best way to fit many BD-50 movies on BD-25. Useless trailers and such can take up a lot of space and time to re-encode.

Is there an alternative that can do it? I thought BD-Rebuilder let me do it back when I made a Beauty and the Beast backup without re-encoding, but I guess all I did was remove the audio. Do a movie-only backup -- then you get it without any extras. That feature (when implemented) is meant to allow you to keep some and remove others while retaining the menu.

[Capsbackup]

I had a similar experience (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1493510#post1493510)previously, and after a bit more info back and forth, jdobbs suggested (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1497748#post1497748)I check my config file and make sure that BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1 was set--and then I seem to have totally spaced out on that and didn't do it, but then again I was setting the option in the GUI, not the config, and only manually edited my config file once (for something unrelated), I think a few versions prior to the incident in question, and never carry them over. Anyway, might be worth checking.

By setting "Keep only BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders" in the GUI setup page, then "BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1" is set in the configuration file. I can confirm this was set for this test. :)
My suspicion was that though only the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders were kept in the backup, the size (MB) of the additional folders was not being subtracted so as to allow for this space that is saved by having "BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1" selected to be added back to be available for the video files to be reencoded. :cool:

[A.Fenderson]

My suspicion was that though only the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders were kept in the backup, the size (MB) of the additional folders was not being subtracted so as to allow for this space that is saved by having "BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1" selected to be added back to be available for the video files to be reencoded. :cool:
That's precisely what happened to me previously.

I wanted to figure this out, and so reproduced it today as below:

Before doing anything, I took a random m2ts file that was bonus material on a BD, and used tsmuxer to create a BD structure around it. The resulting BD structure was 344MB. The root directory of this shall be known as "testBD".

Control test:
0. "uninstall"/delete existing BD_Rebuilder program directory.
1. "install"/unzip BD_Rebuilder program directory from latest beta (BD-RBV03803.zip). Ran inspect.exe: all "OK."
2. Run BD-RB and change settings as below:
* set "Keep BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders"
* set custom target size to 400 in Setup menu
* set Output Options > Custom Target Size (400MB)
NOTE: No other settings changes whatsoever were made via GUI, and config file was never opened or edited.
3. Pointed the Source Path to the BD structure I had created (testBD), and pointed the Working Path to ...\TESTBDOUT1.
4. Clicked "Backup" button: the rebuild began and quickly successfully completed with no reported errors/problems.
Log:

-----------------------
[12:36:15] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: TESTBD
- Input BD size: 0.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:02:48.768]
- Target BD size: 0.39 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:36:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:36:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12:36:39] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [12:36:39] Collecting video information
- [12:36:39] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:36:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:36:48] Multiplexing M2TS
[12:37:12]PHASE ONE complete
[12:37:12]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:37:12] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:37:12] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:37:12]JOB: TESTBD finished.


Experimental test 1:
Before beginning this test, I dropped a 13GB m2ts file directly into the root directory of the BD structure (testBD), so the file itself sits right alongside the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders of my test source structure.

0. "uninstall"/delete existing BD_Rebuilder program directory.
1. "install"/unzip BD_Rebuilder program directory from latest beta (BD-RBV03803.zip).
2. Run BD-RB and change settings as below:
* set "Keep BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders"
* set custom target size to 400 in Setup menu
* set Output Options > Custom Target Size (400MB)
NOTE: No other settings changes whatsoever were made via GUI, and config file was never opened or edited.
3. Pointed the Source Path to the BD structure I had created (testBD), and pointed the Working Path to ...\TESTBDOUT2.
4. Clicked "Backup" button: got popup "Target is too small to continue."
Log:

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[12:44:59] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: TESTBD
- Input BD size: 13.02 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:02:48.768]
- Target BD size: 0.39 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.


Experimental test 2:
Before beginning this test, I moved the 13GB m2ts file into a new subdirectory of the root directory of the BD structure (testBD), so the file itself sits in a directory labeled "ps3_update", and this directory sits right alongside the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders of my test source structure.

0. "uninstall"/delete existing BD_Rebuilder program directory.
1. "install"/unzip BD_Rebuilder program directory from latest beta (BD-RBV03803.zip).
2. Run BD-RB and change settings as below:
* set "Keep BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders"
* set custom target size to 400 in Setup menu
* set Output Options > Custom Target Size (400MB)
NOTE: No other settings changes whatsoever were made via GUI, and config file was never opened or edited.
3. Pointed the Source Path to the BD structure I had created (testBD), and pointed the Working Path to ...\TESTBDOUT3.
4. Clicked "Backup" button: got popup "Target is too small to continue."
Log:

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[12:54:00] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: TESTBD
- Input BD size: 13.02 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:02:48.768]
- Target BD size: 0.39 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

[jdobbs]

@A.Fenderson

I think you must be mixing up what you're doing, because I just did the exact same experiment you did in which a large file is inserted into the root. I get the "Target too small to continue" when BDMV_CERT_ONLY is off -- but it goes away when I set BDMV_CERT_ONLY on, and the job completes successfully. I also tried it with a folder in the root called "JUNK" into which I inserted a large file. It did exactly the same thing (as it was supposed to). I even renamed the folder to "PS3_UPDATE" just to be sure -- same results.

So the bottom line is -- on my computer it is working as it is supposed to.

Where do you have BD Rebuilder installed (what path)? I have to assume that for some reason the "BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1" isn't being asserted in the INI file. Also -- are you saying "Save" after you set the checkbox in SETUP?

[Capsbackup]

I agree that all folders named anything other than BDMV and CERTIFICATE are removed. I could only assume the reason the bitrates were approx. 200kbps higher on the exact same backup that only had the extra files removed by me manually, as well the total file size of the backup, were because this additional space was now available for the video files. This is why I posted the two logs showing the total source files and bitrates for each backup. :)
This is really not a big concern for me, as I usually remember to delete all files from the Anydvd HD rip except BDMV and CERTIFICATE. :cool:

[A.Fenderson]

@A.Fenderson

I think you must be mixing up what you're doing, because I just did the exact same experiment you did in which a large file is inserted into the root.
...
So the bottom line is -- on my computer it is working as it is supposed to.

Where do you have BD Rebuilder installed (what path)? I have to assume that for some reason the "BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1" isn't being asserted in the INI file. Also -- are you saying "Save" after you set the checkbox in SETUP?

I don't doubt that it's working properly on your setup and possibly others, but I was meticulous in the above experiements, and did every step as described, as I was writing the post and documenting everything, to ensure I didn't do anything I forgot to mention, or otherwise.

The BD_Rebuilder folder is on my desktop:
C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Desktop\BD_Rebuilder

I am clicking "Save" when exiting the setup menu, as confirmed by the fact that thereafter when I would go to Settings > Output Options > Custom Target Size (400MB) it displayed the custom target size I had entered in the setup menu.

I would conjecture that BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1 is being asserted, due to the below test which I just performed, but that there's some type of (possibly rarely-triggered or otherwise strangely-dependent) bug in the implementation.

Experimental test 3:
Before beginning this test, I moved the 13GB m2ts file completely out of the BD structure (testBD), retained the "ps3_update" folder, and inserted a single, blank file named "file.txt" into this folder.

0. "uninstall"/delete existing BD_Rebuilder program directory.
1. "install"/unzip BD_Rebuilder program directory from latest beta (BD-RBV03803.zip).
2. Run BD-RB and change settings as below:
* set "Keep BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders"
* set custom target size to 400 in Setup menu
* set Output Options > Custom Target Size (400MB)
NOTE: No other settings changes whatsoever were made via GUI, and config file was never opened or edited.
3. Pointed the Source Path to the BD structure I had created (testBD), and pointed the Working Path to ...\TESTBDOUT4.
4. Clicked "Backup" button: the rebuild proceeded quickly and without incident/error/warning. The resulting rebuild structure contained only BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders: the "ps3_update" folder was not copied over.
Log:

-----------------------
[16:09:05] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: TESTBD
- Input BD size: 0.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:02:48.768]
- Target BD size: 0.39 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:09:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:09:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [16:09:30] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [16:09:30] Collecting video information
- [16:09:30] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [16:09:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:09:46] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:10:10]PHASE ONE complete
[16:10:10]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:10:10] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:10:11] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[16:10:11]JOB: TESTBD finished.


As Capsbackup said, it's an easy work-around, and not a big deal, but I absolutely promise you I'm not retarded or delusional. :)

[Ichinisan]

Do a movie-only backup -- then you get it without any extras. That feature (when implemented) is meant to allow you to keep some and remove others while retaining the menu.

Any idea when / if the blanking feature will be enabled in the near future? I really can't find out what tool I used on my Beauty and the Beast backup. I can't get Clown_BD to work correctly with this one. It always has the descriptive audio track enabled by default and there's no way to preview the audio streams in Clown_BD before starting the [extremely long] process.

[jdobbs]

Any idea when / if the blanking feature will be enabled in the near future? I really can't find out what tool I used on my Beauty and the Beast backup. I can't get Clown_BD to work correctly with this one. It always has the descriptive audio track enabled by default and there's no way to preview the audio streams in Clown_BD before starting the [extremely long] process. No idea. I prioritize bug fixes ahead of feature requests.

[dfsooner]

Any idea when / if the blanking feature will be enabled in the near future? I really can't find out what tool I used on my Beauty and the Beast backup. I can't get Clown_BD to work correctly with this one. It always has the descriptive audio track enabled by default and there's no way to preview the audio streams in Clown_BD before starting the [extremely long] process.

Clown_BD only makes a movie-only version without menus.

Clown_BD BD Copier is a separate program which allows you to keep menus and anything else you care to.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Clown_BD_BD_Copier

You'll want to enable mplayer in order to preview specific playlists to determine which ones to eliminate.

[colinhunt]

jdobbs, has anyone reported a serious audio sync issue when processing a movie-only backup of Japanese releases of Sleepy Hollow and Sky Captain? MediaInfo says Sky Captain is 23.976p and Sleepy Hollow is 29.97p (i.e. not i). No errors during encoding, but audio sync is way way off in the backup. Both movies start with the Japanese distributor's logo animation tacked in the same .M2TS file as the main movie itself, which could be the cause of the issue.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, has anyone reported a serious audio sync issue when processing a movie-only backup of Japanese releases of Sleepy Hollow and Sky Captain? MediaInfo says Sky Captain is 23.976p and Sleepy Hollow is 29.97p (i.e. not i). No errors during encoding, but audio sync is way way off in the backup. Both movies start with the Japanese distributor's logo animation tacked in the same .M2TS file as the main movie itself, which could be the cause of the issue. I haven't seen any reports of issues on them. Not sure how I could test them, as I don't have access to those.

[dfsooner]

Rebuilt from full rip using AnyDVD and Imgburn.

Will not play with TMT3 Platinum.

Tried to load BD-25 output as input source to BD-Rebuilder and got the message "Selected source is not BD format."

Inspect output:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.3, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Logfile:

[09:26:52] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: RED_BIRD_2D_WW
- Input BD size: 43.17 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:55:01.782]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:26:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:26:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [09:27:04] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 2)
- [09:27:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,056 frames
- [09:27:04] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:27:28] Video Encode complete
- [09:27:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:27:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:27:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [09:44:19] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [09:44:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 232,608 frames
- Bitrate: 11,066 Kbs
- [09:44:19] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:24:11] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:39:20] Video Encode complete
- [14:39:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:39:20] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:49:49]PHASE ONE complete
[14:49:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:49:49] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[14:50:00] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[14:50:00]JOB: RED_BIRD_2D_WW finished.

BD_REBUILDER.INI:

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.3
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=D:\BD_REBUILDER WORKFILES\
SOURCE_PATH=G:\

[JJB]

I"m not sure this is a commercial rip...maybe a download or pre-processed somewhere else? Just try a folder rip from AnyDVD if it is a a bought disc and make sure AnyDVD is up to date as I
remember some early problems with this disc with encryption.

[jdobbs]

@dfsooner

Have you tried it on a standalone player? I don't trust software players, they are too buggy.

[dfsooner]

@dfsooner

Have you tried it on a standalone player? I don't trust software players, they are too buggy.

I'll burn it to a BD-RE and try. What threw me though is that BD_Rebuilder itself declared the folder it created as not a valid BD format.

The original disc (all 47GB or so) plays fine on a Blu-ray player.

[PurpleMan]

@dfsooner

Have you tried it on a standalone player? I don't trust software players, they are too buggy.

Actually, in my experience standalone players are too forgiving.

I always say that if every single original disc is played-back fine on a software player, so should the BD-RB'ed copy.

So far most (99%) BD-RB copy I tried on PowerDVD/TMT5 worked flawlessly. The other 1% resulted in successful bug reports after further investigation of the cause of failure.

[jdobbs]

Actually, in my experience standalone players are too forgiving.

I always say that if every single original disc is played-back fine on a software player, so should the BD-RB'ed copy.

So far most (99%) BD-RB copy I tried on PowerDVD/TMT5 worked flawlessly. The other 1% resulted in successful bug reports after further investigation of the cause of failure. Sorry but that's just outright incorrect. Standalone players are the standard to shoot for. Software players are almost always much more forgiving. I can create a BD that wildly violates the standard and they will play back just fine on a software player, mainly because it has virtually no buffer or processor limits. Their biggest problem is just poorly written code that does goofy things randomly.

[jdobbs]

I'll burn it to a BD-RE and try. What threw me though is that BD_Rebuilder itself declared the folder it created as not a valid BD format.

The original disc (all 47GB or so) plays fine on a Blu-ray player. Really? What did it say?

[colinhunt]

I haven't seen any reports of issues on them. Not sure how I could test them, as I don't have access to those.
Apart from sending the discs over to you, what information can I provide to help you?

[dfsooner]

Really? What did it say?

Just pointed it to the folder with the Browse button for the Source field and a message box popped up titled "Illegal Source" and the message "Selected source is not BD format.".

I burned the folder using Imgburn and it would not play on my Insignia Blu-ray player. No message other than "waiting" on the display and it apparently never found what it was waiting on.

I am re-running the rebuild to make sure it wasn't just an anomaly.

UPDATE:

Rebuilt the BD-25. The original rebuild really was unplayable, but this one WAS playable. Not sure what happened on the first iteration. I'm not aware of anything that really changed in the environment. Chalk it up as an anomaly.

However, here is what else I discovered:

If I copy the BD-25 folder to my NAS and browse to it in BD_Rebuilder via "Network" in Windows Explorer (equivalent of \\NAS\Movies\Avatar), I get the error noted above. If, however, I map the folder to a drive letter (V:\Movies\Avatar), it accesses it without error (sees it as a valid BD format). This is true of any BD structure on my file server.

To summarize, same folder accessed via different means yields different results.

[rernst]

I know this has been mentioned in the thread before but I cannot find a solution. Somewhere in there I found that DTS Express would be able to be turned on in some release but I do not know what release that pertained to.

Anyhow, the series has lots of PiP material but the audio is silent which is due to what I understand the lack of DTS Express support. Am I correct? What is the status on this?

[jdobbs]

Just pointed it to the folder with the Browse button for the Source field and a message box popped up titled "Illegal Source" and the message "Selected source is not BD format.".

I burned the folder using Imgburn and it would not play on my Insignia Blu-ray player. No message other than "waiting" on the display and it apparently never found what it was waiting on.

I am re-running the rebuild to make sure it wasn't just an anomaly.

UPDATE:

Rebuilt the BD-25. The original rebuild really was unplayable, but this one WAS playable. Not sure what happened on the first iteration. I'm not aware of anything that really changed in the environment. Chalk it up as an anomaly.

However, here is what else I discovered:

If I copy the BD-25 folder to my NAS and browse to it in BD_Rebuilder via "Network" in Windows Explorer (equivalent of \\NAS\Movies\Avatar), I get the error noted above. If, however, I map the folder to a drive letter (V:\Movies\Avatar), it accesses it without error (sees it as a valid BD format). This is true of any BD structure on my file server.

To summarize, same folder accessed via different means yields different results. That is very definitely a problem in your computer/NAS interface and has nothing to do with BD Rebuilder. BD-RB opens the files etc. via the operating system... it doesn't have any idea whether the source is on a NAS or a local drive. I've seen similar things happen to people who connect via a dodgy USB interface.

[Groucho2004]

That is very definitely a problem in your computer/NAS interface and has nothing to do with BD Rebuilder. BD-RB opens the files etc. via the operating system... it doesn't have any idea whether the source is on a NAS or a local drive. I've seen similar things happen to people who connect via a dodgy USB interface.

Not sure which functions you're using in BDRB but I had problems with UNC paths and calls like FindFirstFile/FindNextFile when I tried to enumerate a remote directory recursively. I ended up writing some code mapping the path to a drive letter. :mad:

[Capsbackup]

There appears to be a problem for BD-RB converting the numerous .dts files to .ac3 for a BD9 conversion. The Workfiles folder has the working demuxed .dts file, but the converted .ac3 file, example "AUD_00044_4352" is only 1kb in size, and thus no audio is included for the many extras on this backup.
This was brought to my attention when testing the extras on True Blood season 3. So not only is there a problem with the subtitles, there is an audio conversion problem on several extra features as well. :(

[dfsooner]

That is very definitely a problem in your computer/NAS interface and has nothing to do with BD Rebuilder. BD-RB opens the files etc. via the operating system... it doesn't have any idea whether the source is on a NAS or a local drive. I've seen similar things happen to people who connect via a dodgy USB interface.

Not a "dodgy USB interface" - internal SATA with standard SMB shares. And it doesn't matter whether it's a NAS or another Win7 computer on the wired gigabit LAN. I have four Windows 7 desktops and two NAS servers on my LAN and the problem manifests itself on any SMB share (even on the local machine). Not saying there may not be an OS issue, but I haven't seen this problem with other programs.

[rernst]

I have the same problem. If my ripped copy is on an (unmapped) Win 7 shared, BD Rebuilder will not reccognize it as a valid copy. Opening it locally works just fine.

[jdobbs]

Not a "dodgy USB interface" - internal SATA with standard SMB shares. And it doesn't matter whether it's a NAS or another Win7 computer on the wired gigabit LAN. I have four Windows 7 desktops and two NAS servers on my LAN and the problem manifests itself on any SMB share (even on the local machine). Not saying there may not be an OS issue, but I haven't seen this problem with other programs. I never said it was a "dodgy USB interface", I used that as an example (which is why I said "I've seen similar things happen"). I know how NAS boxes work. But the bottom line is that no matter how they work or how we think they work -- the problem is very clearly outside BD-RB and therefore isn't a bug report.

The test is simple. If you put it on a local drive and it then starts to work, the NAS or its interface is obviously the problem. I run BD-RB using network shares on different computers every day -- and have never had an issue. I do map them as drives, however and it is very possible there may be a dependency there somewhere.

All BD-RB does is ask the O/S to open the files. If there is an issue, it is somewhere between the O/S and the NAS.

It really doesn't matter to me what your other programs do -- but I'd be willing to bet other software will see the same issue under the same circumstances. It's probably the NAS driver, but I really can't say.

I'll do some testing using different methods of opening... (drive mapped and non-drive mapped) -- you never know what might be found.

[rernst]

Must be related to UNC names. Handbrake for some reason doesn't support them, either. Not sure what is behind that.

[jdobbs]

I never said it was a "dodgy USB interface", I used that as an example (which is why I said "I've seen similar things happen"). I know how NAS boxes work. But the bottom line is that no matter how they work or how we think they work -- the problem is very clearly outside BD-RB and therefore isn't a bug report.

The test is simple. If you put it on a local drive and it then starts to work, the NAS or its interface is obviously the problem. I run BD-RB using network shares on different computers every day -- and have never had an issue. I do map them as drives, however and it is very possible there may be a dependency there somewhere.

All BD-RB does is ask the O/S to open the files. If there is an issue, it is somewhere between the O/S and the NAS.

It really doesn't matter to me what your other programs do -- but I'd be willing to bet other software will see the same issue under the same circumstances. It's probably the NAS driver, but I really can't say.

I'll do some testing using different methods of opening... (drive mapped and non-drive mapped) -- you never know what might be found. Ok -- I just tried opening using a UNC path, and it doesn't recognize the BD ("Selected source is no BD format"). It also is exceptionally slow. I'll have to follow the code and see if there is anything I can do about it from within BD-RB. In the meantime I would suggest just mapping a drive.

[Capsbackup]

There appears to be a problem for BD-RB converting the numerous .dts files to .ac3 for a BD9 conversion. The Workfiles folder has the working demuxed .dts file, but the converted .ac3 file, example "AUD_00044_4352" is only 1kb in size, and thus no audio is included for the many extras on this backup.
This was brought to my attention when testing the extras on True Blood season 3. So not only is there a problem with the subtitles, there is an audio conversion problem on several extra features as well. :(

This has happened on season 3 disc 2 as well. :confused:
I ran both discs again, and the same thing has happened. For whatever reason, BD-RB is not converting all of the .dts audio tracks for the numerous extras, but instead there is only this 1kb .ac3 file corresponding to the VID_00....AVS, so when it is remuxed, no audio is present for these extras. :(

[jdobbs]

This has happened on season 3 disc 2 as well. :confused:
I ran both discs again, and the same thing has happened. For whatever reason, BD-RB is not converting all of the .dts audio tracks for the numerous extras, but instead there is only this 1kb .ac3 file corresponding to the VID_00....AVS, so when it is remuxed, no audio is present for these extras. :( Can you post the AVS file for one of the M2TS files that failed?

[Capsbackup]

Can you post the AVS file for one of the M2TS files that failed?

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.03 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Ed\Desktop\BD-RBV03803B\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("00044.track_4352.dts").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.03 (beta)
DirectshowSource("G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=2210, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2 BDRB\WORKFILES\VID_00044.AVS.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "G:\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2 BDRB\WORKFILES\AUD_00044_4352.AC3", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2 BDRB\WORKFILES\00044.track_4608.sup", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2 BDRB\WORKFILES\00044.track_4609.sup", lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2 BDRB\WORKFILES\00044.track_4610.sup", lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2 BDRB\WORKFILES\00044.track_4611.sup", lang=por
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2 BDRB\WORKFILES\00044.track_4612.sup", lang=nld

The rebuild is successful, Mediainfo shows an audio file is present, its just a silent audio track since being only 1 kb size I think it is acting like a place holder.

[discoballs]

I have no sound in bd rebuilder. Everything was installed as instructed on 1st page. When I open bd rebuilder and look down the list of audio there is nothing selected. Have tried deleting and reinstalling, deleting and cleaning registry then installing but have not luck at all. Inspect.exe says

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.3, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
so everything should be working. Any ideas as I have searched everywhere for answers (before I format the drive again). :confused::confused:

[Capsbackup]

You have to select the desired audio you want in the "Setup". ex.: go to Settings, Setup and set your desired audio and subtitle tracks. You can also click on the audio track while in the regular tree view of BD-RB and select/deselect your desired audio/subtitles for each video file listed. :)

[jdobbs]

If you try open the audio AVS with Media Player Classic, does it play? (You may need to enable raw audio in FFDSHOW)

[Capsbackup]

If you try open the audio AVS with Media Player Classic, does it play? (You may need to enable raw audio in FFDSHOW)

MPC opens the file, it shows the total time of the clip to be played, but it will not play, but only immediately goes from start to end with no sound.

[jdobbs]

MPC opens the file, it shows the total time of the clip to be played, but it will not play, but only immediately goes from start to end with no sound. Hmmm.... can you post the .META file that extracted the audio (it starts with "AUD_")? Also, does the DTS file look like it extracted ok? Does it play?

[Capsbackup]

Hmmm.... can you post the .META file that extracted the audio (it starts with "AUD_")? Also, does the DTS file look like it extracted ok? Does it play?

I posted the meta file on the previous page with avs info. :)
The .dts file will open with MPC and plays, but I only get static.This happens with any .dts file, I think because of the haali version being used. ( I tested that version you asked a while back that allowed .dts files to play properly, but you determined that version was buggy, so I removed it! :p ) It does play properly with PowerDVD if I choose "Open With" and play it.
Some .dts files are being reencoded to .ac3 properly, but there are numerous ones, 15+, that have created a 1 kb ac3 file! :confused:

[jdobbs]

I posted the meta file on the previous page with avs info. :)
The .dts file will open with MPC and plays, but I only get static.This happens with any .dts file, I think because of the haali version being used. ( I tested that version you asked a while back that allowed .dts files to play properly, but you determined that version was buggy, so I removed it! :p ) It does play properly with PowerDVD if I choose "Open With" and play it.
Some .dts files are being reencoded to .ac3 properly, but there are numerous ones, 15+, that have created a 1 kb ac3 file! :confused:Wrong META. That one was for the rebuild. I was looking for the one used in the extraction. I need to see if "down-to-dts" was set (it should be when reencoding to AC3).

If you are getting static -- that means it is probably still HD, regular DTS should play back (or at least it does on my system). HD would be wrong for reencoding (nicaudio.dll can't handle it).

You didn't, by chance, start the job and then change audio settings and resume maybe? I don't think that should cause an issue, but you never know.

[Capsbackup]

Wrong META. That one was for the rebuild. I was looking for the one used in the extraction. I need to see if "down-to-dts" was set (it should be when reencoding to AC3).

If you are getting static -- that means it is probably still HD, regular DTS should play back (or at least it does on my system). HD would be wrong for reencoding (nicaudio.dll can't handle it).

You didn't, by chance, start the job and then change audio settings and resume maybe? I don't think that should cause an issue, but you never know.

I don't see any other meta files in the Workfiles folder :o
The dts file will play, just not with MPC. ( PowerDVD works)
I did not stop the job once it started. I do not use batch mode either. Just straight run through to rebuild completion and shut down upon completion. :p

Edit;
The main video's audio track is DTS-HD, and it is demuxed to .dts correctly and is reencoded to 640kbps 5.1 .ac3 correctly.
If I manually demux the .dts track with tsMuxeR of one of these files that have a problem with BD-RB, the file size of this .dts is exactly the same as the one BD-RB demuxed in the Workfiles folder.

[discoballs]

You have to select the desired audio you want in the "Setup". ex.: go to Settings, Setup and set your desired audio and subtitle tracks. You can also click on the audio track while in the regular tree view of BD-RB and select/deselect your desired audio/subtitles for each video file listed. :)
the option to select audio is not there in tree view but I know it should be. :confused:

If you try open the audio AVS with Media Player Classic, does it play? (You may need to enable raw audio in FFDSHOW)
I have already enabled uncompressed to 'all supported' :confused:

P.S. the original file does play sound so I know it has some in it.

[worknstiff]

@discoballs; RE: the option to select audio is not there in tree view but I know it should be.

You failed to mention what disk you are processing and also what kind of audio files that were originally on the disk. I have seen the problem you are refering to on a few disk before, but can't remember which ones, maybe the Last Emperor, Max & Me, or one of the Girl with Dragon Tattoo's. The audio was there but BD_RB was not able to recognize it. I ended up pre-processing (used either ClownBD or TsmuxeR GUI) it to remove the audio and rebuild it to a BD output that had 640k 5.1 audio that BD_RB was happy to use. I seen to remember it was some LPCM weird bitrate that was not being recognised. Hope this helps

[jdobbs]

I don't see any other meta files in the Workfiles folder :o
The dts file will play, just not with MPC. ( PowerDVD works)
I did not stop the job once it started. I do not use batch mode either. Just straight run through to rebuild completion and shut down upon completion. :p

Edit;
The main video's audio track is DTS-HD, and it is demuxed to .dts correctly and is reencoded to 640kbps 5.1 .ac3 correctly.
If I manually demux the .dts track with tsMuxeR of one of these files that have a problem with BD-RB, the file size of this .dts is exactly the same as the one BD-RB demuxed in the Workfiles folder.The META should be there. It's called "AUD_00044.META".

Interesting -- so you're saying the file demuxed directly by TSMUXER directly is also 1K long?

[jdobbs]

Not a "dodgy USB interface" - internal SATA with standard SMB shares. And it doesn't matter whether it's a NAS or another Win7 computer on the wired gigabit LAN. I have four Windows 7 desktops and two NAS servers on my LAN and the problem manifests itself on any SMB share (even on the local machine). Not saying there may not be an OS issue, but I haven't seen this problem with other programs. Ok. I think I have it working using UNC paths. I'm doing a test run of an encode now. The problem was an oddity (that, by the way, I couldn't find documented in the Microsoft docs) in the O/S's "CreateFile()" function as BD-RB is collecting filesizes when working with UNC filenames. Luckily a google search found someone who discussed it.

[discoballs]

@discoballs; RE: the option to select audio is not there in tree view but I know it should be.

You failed to mention what disk you are processing and also what kind of audio files that were originally on the disk. I have seen the problem you are refering to on a few disk before, but can't remember which ones, maybe the Last Emperor, Max & Me, or one of the Girl with Dragon Tattoo's. The audio was there but BD_RB was not able to recognize it. I ended up pre-processing (used either ClownBD or TsmuxeR GUI) it to remove the audio and rebuild it to a BD output that had 640k 5.1 audio that BD_RB was happy to use. I seen to remember it was some LPCM weird bitrate that was not being recognised. Hope this helps


Thanks for replying but the fault comes up on all of the bluray discs I have (even the one's I have already done). There must be something I installed recently affecting it but the only way I know to fix it is format and reinstall everything. Was hoping there was a way to fix it but don't know it. Will have to check after each thing I install so I can bin it. :confused::confused:

[Capsbackup]

The META should be there. It's called "AUD_00044.META".

This is the contents of AUD_00044.META:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4609,lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4610,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4611,lang=por
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4612,lang=nld

Interesting -- so you're saying the file demuxed directly by TSMUXER directly is also 1K long?

No, the file demuxed directly with tsMuxeR is the same file size as the one demuxed with BD-RB. These .dts files range in size from about 5MB to 8MB. They both will play correctly. BD-RB demuxed them correctly. BD-RB just did not reencode them to .ac3 correctly.
It is the BD-RB created .ac3 that is only 1kb with no audio!

I can manually convert these BD-RB .dts files to 448kbps ac3 with Aften, rename them to AUD_00044_4352, etc... insert them in the Workfiles folder in place of the 1kb files, and do a rebuild and now the audio is there and works for these m2ts files that previously had no audio.

[jdobbs]

This is the contents of AUD_00044.META:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4609,lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4610,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4611,lang=por
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4612,lang=nld



No, the file demuxed directly with tsMuxeR is the same file size as the one demuxed with BD-RB. These .dts files range in size from about 5MB to 8MB. They both will play correctly. BD-RB demuxed them correctly. BD-RB just did not reencode them to .ac3 correctly.
It is the BD-RB created .ac3 that is only 1kb with no audio!

I can manually convert these BD-RB .dts files to 448kbps ac3 with Aften, rename them to AUD_00044_4352, etc... insert them in the Workfiles folder in place of the 1kb files, and do a rebuild and now the audio is there and works for these m2ts files that previously had no audio. I can see the problem. The AUD_00044.META file should have had "down-to-DTS" as a part of this line:

A_DTS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng

Without it NICAUDIO.DLL cannot decode it (because it is HD) and the AC3 encode fails. The question is: Why did it not insert it?

I'm not sure I got the gist correctly... you did say these were DTS-HD, right?

[jdobbs]

Thanks for replying but the fault comes up on all of the bluray discs I have (even the one's I have already done). There must be something I installed recently affecting it but the only way I know to fix it is format and reinstall everything. Was hoping there was a way to fix it but don't know it. Will have to check after each thing I install so I can bin it. :confused::confused: You have to select the desired audio you want in the "Setup". ex.: go to Settings, Setup and set your desired audio and subtitle tracks. You can also click on the audio track while in the regular tree view of BD-RB and select/deselect your desired audio/subtitles for each video file listed. :)
Capsbackup has given you the correct advice. Go to SETUP and select the languages you want to keep by default -- and then save.

[Capsbackup]

I can see the problem. The AUD_00044.META file should have had "down-to-DTS" as a part of this line:

A_DTS, "G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D2\BDMV\STREAM\00044.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng

Without it NICAUDIO.DLL cannot decode it (because it is HD) and the AC3 encode fails. The question is: Why did it not insert it?

I'm not sure I got the gist correctly... you did say these were DTS-HD, right?

No only the main movie's audio track is DTS-HD. These other files are just dts. The main DTS-HD tracks were reencoded properly and play back perfectly.

[Capsbackup]

Just completed True Blood season 3 disc 3, and a whopping 36 .dts audio tracks were not converted to ac3 :eek:

[jdobbs]

Just completed True Blood season 3 disc 3, and a whopping 36 .dts audio tracks were not converted to ac3 :eek: I'll do some testing with that disc and see what's up.

[discoballs]

Capsbackup has given you the correct advice. Go to SETUP and select the languages you want to keep by default -- and then save.

Have tried that.
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3614/picture20110617054046.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/picture20110617054046.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

:confused::confused:

[setarip_old]

@discoballs

Hi!

Does your system have the ability to play TrueHD audio, the audio that you've selected as the ONLY audiostream?

[Carter]

I wonder, is the entire re-encoding process with x264 is any way limited by copying speed of harddisks ?

HDD1 re-encode to HDD2 = faster if HDD's are 200mb/s read/write or doesnt it matter if they are 100mb/s read/write only ? or basically, completely CPU dependend only ?:thanks:

[PurpleMan]

Sorry but that's just outright incorrect. Standalone players are the standard to shoot for. Software players are almost always much more forgiving. I can create a BD that wildly violates the standard and they will play back just fine on a software player, mainly because it has virtually no buffer or processor limits. Their biggest problem is just poorly written code that does goofy things randomly.

Even if I agree with you and accept that software players are forgiving, it only enhances my point that if a backup does not play on a software player - chances are something is very wrong.

As mentioned, in my experience whenever PowerDVD fails to play something correctly, I will usually find something wrong in the MPLS or CLPI (which, as mentioned, led to bug reports which were confirmed and fixed later on).

My only point is that if a backup doesn't work on PowerDVD we shouldn't dismiss it because "it's a software player" but rather investigate why the original plays fine and the backup does not.


P.S.
TMT (both 3 and 5) are more forgiving than PDVD11, which I find is very strict.

[jdobbs]

Have tried that.
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3614/picture20110617054046.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/picture20110617054046.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

:confused::confused: I don't even see how that is possible, I just followed the code and there isn't even a path that would create the audio tree without an image (either selected or not selected).

My best guess is that some other program has replaced the registered version of MSCOMCTL.OCX (included with Windows) with a corrupted or old one. Some less-then-careful developers will do that without telling you. You may be able to fix it by registering the one in the BD Rebuilder folder. You can do that by putting yourself in that folder under CMD and then typing:

regsvr32 MSCOMCTL.OCX

[jdobbs]

Even if I agree with you and accept that software players are forgiving, it only enhances my point that if a backup does not play on a software player - chances are something is very wrong.

As mentioned, in my experience whenever PowerDVD fails to play something correctly, I will usually find something wrong in the MPLS or CLPI (which, as mentioned, led to bug reports which were confirmed and fixed later on).

My only point is that if a backup doesn't work on PowerDVD we shouldn't dismiss it because "it's a software player" but rather investigate why the original plays fine and the backup does not.


P.S.
TMT (both 3 and 5) are more forgiving than PDVD11, which I find is very strict. I have said at least 20 times in this very thread that I will not accept bug reports from software players. It's because they are buggy and unreliable. If you go back through the thread you will also find numerous reports that turned out to be the software player. I don't have the time or inclination to chase down bugs for the developers of software players and will not do so. I also do not intend to spend my time debating the point.

Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

By the way, I don't "dismiss it" when it is reported -- I simply ask that it be confirmed on a real player (a standalone).

[jdobbs]

I wonder, is the entire re-encoding process with x264 is any way limited by copying speed of harddisks ?

HDD1 re-encode to HDD2 = faster if HDD's are 200mb/s read/write or doesnt it matter if they are 100mb/s read/write only ? or basically, completely CPU dependend only ?:thanks: Hard drive speed makes a difference, especially on large writes like BD-25, but CPU speed has much more impact by far.

[PurpleMan]

I have said at least 20 times in this very thread that I will not accept bug reports from software players. It's because they are buggy and unreliable. If you go back through the thread you will also find numerous reports that turned out to be the software player. I don't have the time or inclination to chase down bugs for the developers of software players and will not do so. I also do not intend to spend my time debating the point.

Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

By the way, I don't "dismiss it" when it is reported -- I simply ask that it be confirmed on a real player (a standalone).

I think you got me wrong. I know you don't usually dismiss it and we obviously have similar goals in regards to bugs and this thread. I was only stressing that it's indeed important to act like you do and not dismiss a report solely on it being a software player tested issue.

And by the way, I know how you feel about software players, and that's why whenever something doesn't play right I try to find the underline cause by examining the appropriate MPLS/CLPI/M2TS and only then report a bug :)

[RJNelson]

I seem to be having trouble with every BLU-RAY I try to encode after the update on this computer. I haven't really seen anything like the problem I'm having since it's not related to a specific movie. Anyway, here's some info i got from BD-Rebuilder:

[08:51:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:51:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00400]
- [08:51:29] Reencoding: VID_00400 (1 of 20)
- [08:51:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 568 frames
- [08:51:29] Reencoding: VID_00400, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[08:51:30] - Failed video encode, aborted

I hope this helps, please let me know what the problem could be if possible.

[jdobbs]

A good bet would be that something else has changed your configuration and is intercepting the AVC CODEC. I'd suggest you uninstall FFDSHOW and reinstall it.

[Ch3vr0n]

I just had a rather serious issue with a rebuild of the disc "How Do You Know" (with reese witherspoon) The rebuild itself was successful, however BDRB cut the last chapter short the original movie is just a fraction over 2hrs long (2hrs 45seconds). Verified this with the original disc, and the iso rip from anydvd hd. Both say the same. However with the rebuild the last 5 minutes are missing and the movie is cut short to 1hr 55min 22 seconds where the ending is arround 1:57h and the rest are credits with the last chapter mark being set at 1:52:11 (same on original and rebuilt disc). Something is off, thats for sure

The rebuilt disc had 154 m2ts files and so did the original, i'm at a loss here. I enjoyed the 1h55m long in front of my TV and then had to swap to my htpc for the ending, kind of a mood killer if you ask me

Another thing that i noticed is that the original had the common PS3 folders, on the rebuilt they were not present however a file called PS3_DISC.FSB was (wich was also on the original disc)

[A.Fenderson]

My past system instability issues have been resolved: oddly, Avast was causing frequent BSODs, so it's been replaced with MS Security Essentials, and I'm back to normal on that machine.

I had one really odd rebuild problem: Boogie Nights. There's a point in the movie when it cuts to a black screen with just "80s" in white letters for a few seconds, then the film resumes--but not on my rebuild. From that point to the very end of the massive, full-movie m2ts file, I get the "80s" only for video, but audio is normal. I don't have access to the log atm, but I did read through it and no errors were reported.

[DMagic1]

I'm not sure which recent version of BD Rebuilder it started with but recently I started getting a video glitch once on every project I do. It varies on when during the movie but always happens once.

See here.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6056/ci107049385630158389.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/ci107049385630158389.jpg/)

[setarip_old]

@A.Fenderson

Hi!

Did you play your rip of "Boogie Nights" to make certain that it doesn't exhibit the same behavior? (I presume you've ascertained that the commercial Blu-ray plays properly)

[PurpleMan]

I'm not sure which recent version of BD Rebuilder it started with but recently I started getting a video glitch once on every project I do. It varies on when during the movie but always happens once.

See here.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6056/ci107049385630158389.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/ci107049385630158389.jpg/)

Assuming there's nothing wrong with your decoder and that you use all the recommended versions in the first post, that is likely to happen if your system is overclocked.

No matter how stable you think your system is, video encoding is an extremely demanding process, and even the slightest mistake in calculation during encodes could cause this.

[DMagic1]

Assuming there's nothing wrong with your decoder and that you use all the recommended versions in the first post, that is likely to happen if your system is overclocked.

No matter how stable you think your system is, video encoding is an extremely demanding process, and even the slightest mistake in calculation during encodes could cause this.

Thanks, Ill look into the overclock.

[DMagic1]

If that is the problem, which I am really not thinking so, I am checking it. I have had the system setup this way for the longest, before Avatar came out and never had this issue untill recently. I'm running the same project as earlier a third time now without overclocking and I see what happens. The second time I ran it still overclocked it gave the glitch at the same place again.

[jdobbs]

If that is the problem, which I am really not thinking so, I am checking it. I have had the system setup this way for the longest, before Avatar came out and never had this issue untill recently. I'm running the same project as earlier a third time now without overclocking and I see what happens. The second time I ran it still overclocked it gave the glitch at the same place again. Unfortunately, though, no one else is reporting anything like your post shows. That points back to something systemic on your computer. The only other similar report I've ever seen turned out to be a flaky hard drive. That kind of macroblocking seems to only come when the encoding is corrupted somehow.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
A happy father's day to you! :)

I ran a full backup to BD9 of True Blood season 3 disc 5, which has only one episode and the rest bonus features. There are 355 titles with .dts audio tracks that do not get reencoded to ac3. :eek:
Interesting that the first dts track, the second track, which is a dts-hd track and the next three dts tracks are converted to ac3 properly. ( the first five audio tracks are fine ) The following 355 dts tracks are not converted or are converted to only 1 kb. :(

[LowDead]

I'm not sure which recent version of BD Rebuilder it started with but recently I started getting a video glitch once on every project I do. It varies on when during the movie but always happens once.

See here.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6056/ci107049385630158389.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/ci107049385630158389.jpg/)

To me it sounds like there's something going on with your hdd.. do a chkdsk on it..

[DMagic1]

I did the project again with no overclock and the glitch is in the same exact spot.

If it was something with my system it would seem that the glitch would be in different locations in the video not at the same exact spot right?

This makes 4 times running it and its always at the same location.

I'll check into the chkdsk.

[PurpleMan]

I did the project again with no overclock and the glitch is in the same exact spot.

If it was something with my system it would seem that the glitch would be in different locations in the video not at the same exact spot right?

This makes 4 times running it and its always at the same location.

I'll check into the chkdsk.

I would suggest opening the corresponding AVS in the WORKFILES folder (VID_XXXX.avs) in VirtualDub or another editing program, then scroll to the location where the glitch occurs and look if you see it there as well.

If you do, it means that the glitch is being frameserved to the encoder, in which case it's not BD-RB's fault but rather the decoder your system is using. If it's indeed the correct version of ffdshow, try switching between ffmpeg and libavcodec for h264 decoding and see if that makes a difference.

[jdobbs]

I did the project again with no overclock and the glitch is in the same exact spot.

If it was something with my system it would seem that the glitch would be in different locations in the video not at the same exact spot right?

This makes 4 times running it and its always at the same location.

I'll check into the chkdsk. Or it's possible it could be fed a bad frame at that location...

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.38.04). Changes for this version:- Corrected an issue in which end-times might be
incorrectly updated in an MPLS file for cases
where partial CLPI/M2TS playback is referenced.
- Added code to handle non-standard 1080p/25 and
1080p/29.97 sources and use "--fake-interlaced"
in the command line to make them compliant.
- Added a hidden option "CHECK_FFDSHOW". If set
to "0" BD-RB will continue running even if no
version of FFDSHOW is found. Anyone using this
option must ensure appropriate alternate CODECs
are installed, and bug reports will not be
accepted when FFDSHOW has not been installed.
- Changed routines so that UNC pathnames can be
used as a source (should make use with NAS and
other network units more compatible).
- Added an additional quality setting for hidden
AUTO_BIAS. Setting AUTO_BIAS=3, gives bias for
even higher quality settings (lower speed) when
"Automatic Quality Settings" is selected. See
HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more details on AUTO_BIAS.
- Changed the default values so that DTS and AC3
are kept in their original format rather than
being reencoding. That choice can be changed
via the SETUP dialog.
- Completed testing on FFDSHOW rev 3882 and HAALI
Mediasplitter version 1.11.96.14. These are now
the recommended versions of these helper apps
and can be downloaded from jdobbs.net. They are
also now linked in the first post of the DOOM9
bug reporting thread.
- Made improvements that should improve accuracy
of sizing.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r2008).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r2008).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[berndy2001]

- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to the latest release (r2008).
I have a Question: I´m using win7 64bit. How can I use the 64bit edition of x264? Just rename it to X264.EXE? Or is there a switch i haven´t found yet?

[jdobbs]

I have a Question: I´m using win7 64bit. How can I use the 64bit edition of x264? Just rename it to X264.EXE? Or is there a switch i haven´t found yet? No. Doing so will cause BD-RB to fail.

There are only certain circumstances in which the 64 bit version can be used. If you set "Use X264's internal LAVF for decoding" in the SETUP dialog the 64 bit version will be used whenever it is possible.

This tells BD-RB to use the internal decoders in X264 (LAVF), making use of the X264 64 bit version possible. You don't have to rename anything, BD-RB knows if you are on a 64 bit system. Note, however, that lots of things will make BD-RB revert to 32 bit automatically (like resizing, using filters, etc.). When USE_LAVF is asserted and is in effect, FFDSHOW, AVISYNTH, and HAALI are not used for decoding.

Do some testing... sometimes the 32 bit version along with the helper apps can be faster, even on a 64 bit system.

[Capsbackup]

Will this change be used for AVCHD, full backups to BD5/9?
- Changed the default values so that DTS and AC3
are kept in their original format rather than
being reencoding. That choice can be changed
via the SETUP dialog.

[laserfan]

I would suggest opening the corresponding AVS in the WORKFILES folder (VID_XXXX.avs) in VirtualDub or another editing program, then scroll to the location where the glitch occurs and look if you see it there as well.

If you do, it means that the glitch is being frameserved to the encoder, in which case it's not BD-RB's fault but rather the decoder your system is using. If it's indeed the correct version of ffdshow, try switching between ffmpeg and libavcodec for h264 decoding and see if that makes a difference.
Couldn't have said it better myself! ;)

I used to have odd, infrequent glitching exactly as you're describing DMagic1, and found that it went away once I started using DGIndexNV to decode-and-feed to x264. My issues were never as frequent as your own (you said it now happens on every project) but they were exactly as you've described.

I dunno if this issue still exists for me as I very rarely use BD-RB (when I have, it's worked) and more typically roll-my-own BDs using DG's nvidia tools now. Anyway my money's on a decoding problem in your PC. Good luck finding it! :)

[jdobbs]

Will this change be used for AVCHD, full backups to BD5/9?
- Changed the default values so that DTS and AC3
are kept in their original format rather than
being reencoding. That choice can be changed
via the SETUP dialog. It still works the way it always did. The only difference is the default setting. DTS cannot be used in AVCHD, as it is not a part of the standard.

[A.Fenderson]

@A.Fenderson

Hi!

Did you play your rip of "Boogie Nights" to make certain that it doesn't exhibit the same behavior? (I presume you've ascertained that the commercial Blu-ray plays properly)

Yeah, the rip plays normally. It might have been a one-off: I'm going to update to the newest BD-RB and run it again.

I did the project again with no overclock and the glitch is in the same exact spot.

If it was something with my system it would seem that the glitch would be in different locations in the video not at the same exact spot right?

This makes 4 times running it and its always at the same location.

I'll check into the chkdsk.

Possibly a bad rip: I've had similar happen with one. Sometimes you can see a problem (even if it's very, very minor) in the original rip if you play back and step frame-by-frame through it, looking carefully for artifacts, at the spot where the reencode shows the issue.

[DMagic1]

I would suggest opening the corresponding AVS in the WORKFILES folder (VID_XXXX.avs) in VirtualDub or another editing program, then scroll to the location where the glitch occurs and look if you see it there as well.

If you do, it means that the glitch is being frameserved to the encoder, in which case it's not BD-RB's fault but rather the decoder your system is using. If it's indeed the correct version of ffdshow, try switching between ffmpeg and libavcodec for h264 decoding and see if that makes a difference.

Checked the AVS and no glitches.

I'm running the project again with the new version of BD with the lastest x264.
Also did a frame by frame of the source and saw no glitch or pixel errors.

[Stormcrow]

Regarding the new recommended versions of FFDSHOW and HAALI:

Do the new versions install cleanly on top of the old ones?
Or is it better to un-install and re-install?

And will their settings be preserved?

--
SC

[Balthazar2k4]

Let me start by saying that DVD Rebuilder Pro is a great program and jdobbs, I hope you were well compensated for your work. Next, let me apologize for asking a question that has probably been answered, but I have searched and this thread is far too long to just sit down and read. I have played around with BD-Rebuilder just a tad and I am unable to find a one-pass CRF mode. I see places in this thread where it is mentioned so that leads me to believe it exists. Am I missing something? Ultimately, I don't really care so much about the file size, so I would rather set a target quality and call it a day.

EDIT: Nevermind. I am an idiot. Nothing to see here folks.... move along....

EDIT #2: Is it possible to keep HD audio when using CRF and MKV container?

[JJB]

Let me start by saying that DVD Rebuilder Pro is a great program and jdobbs, I hope you were well compensated for your work. Next, let me apologize for asking a question that has probably been answered, but I have searched and this thread is far too long to just sit down and read. I have played around with BD-Rebuilder just a tad and I am unable to find a one-pass CRF mode. I see places in this thread where it is mentioned so that leads me to believe it exists. Am I missing something? Ultimately, I don't really care so much about the file size, so I would rather set a target quality and call it a day.

Just uncheck Automatic Quality Settings and then choose what you want.;)

[jdobbs]

Regarding the new recommended versions of FFDSHOW and HAALI:

Do the new versions install cleanly on top of the old ones?
Or is it better to un-install and re-install?

And will their settings be preserved?

--
SC I installed both on top of the old ones.

[Sharc]

....I used to have odd, infrequent glitching exactly as you're describing DMagic1, and found that it went away once I started using DGIndexNV to decode-and-feed to x264. .....
I noticed similar glitches in the temporary sample file which is produced for CRF prediction. Fortunately it has so far never materialized for the real encode.

[jdobbs]

EDIT #2: Is it possible to keep HD audio when using CRF and MKV container? Currently you keep the core of HD audio when "intact" is selected. I do plan to allow keeping HD audio as well -- but I forgot to make that change in this release, it'll probably be in the next release. I'm not a big believer in HD audio (I think its a useless marketing gimmick) so it probably just slipped my mind.

[Balthazar2k4]

Currently you keep the core of HD audio when "intact" is selected. I do plan to allow keeping HD audio as well -- but I forgot to make that change in this release, it'll probably be in the next release. I'm not a big believer in HD audio (I think its a useless marketing gimmick) so it probably just slipped my mind.

Thanks jdobbs. I have several thousand dollars in audio gear alone invested in my home theater, so even if it is a placebo effect, I feel better about my investment with HD audio :)

I'll keep an eye out for the next release.

[Balthazar2k4]

Just uncheck Automatic Quality Settings and then choose what you want.;)

Thanks jjb. I found it just before your post. Just needed to tinker with it some more before posting...

[Capsbackup]

I just downloaded the new release, BD-RBV03804 and the new ffdshow and haali. Installed ffdshow and haali and now I get the " - HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version" when I run Inspect! :confused:

[jdobbs]

I just downloaded the new release, BD-RBV03804 and the new ffdshow and haali. Installed ffdshow and haali and now I get the " - HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version" when I run Inspect! :confused: Hmm... it says "Ok" on both my 32 and 64 bit systems. Can you look at the HAALI/Mediasplitter folder and tell me what it says for the total size?

[Edit] Whoops. I just tested it again and realized that I didn't save after I updated the size on the 32 bit check. I'll fix it for the next release. If the folder is 2,434,588 bytes, you're good to go.

[jdobbs]

Thanks jdobbs. I have several thousand dollars in audio gear alone invested in my home theater, so even if it is a placebo effect, I feel better about my investment with HD audio :)

I'll keep an eye out for the next release.Wow. You must be rich. Have you donated? :)

[Balthazar2k4]

Wow. You must be rich. Have you donated? :)

I did for DVD Rebuilder and as soon as you get HD audio passthrough enabled for MKV, then I can try out BD Rebuilder. If all goes well, you can bet I will make a much more generous donation then I did with DVD Rebuilder. I was "poor" back then :p

[Capsbackup]

Hmm... it says "Ok" on both my 32 and 64 bit systems. Can you look at the HAALI/Mediasplitter folder and tell me what it says for the total size?

[Edit] Whoops. I just tested it again and realized that I didn't save after I updated the size on the 32 bit check. I'll fix it for the next release. If the folder is 2,434,588 bytes, you're good to go.

Yes mine says 2,434,588 bytes. Thanks. :)

[MilesAhead]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.38.04). Changes for this version:- Corrected an issue in which end-times might be
incorrectly updated in an MPLS file for cases
where partial CLPI/M2TS playback is referenced.
- Added code to handle non-standard 1080p/25 and
1080p/29.97 sources and use "--fake-interlaced"
in the command line to make them compliant.
- Added a hidden option "CHECK_FFDSHOW". If set
to "0" BD-RB will continue running even if no
version of FFDSHOW is found. Anyone using this
option must ensure appropriate alternate CODECs
are installed, and bug reports will not be
accepted when FFDSHOW has not been installed.
- Changed routines so that UNC pathnames can be
used as a source (should make use with NAS and
other network units more compatible).
- Added an additional quality setting for hidden
AUTO_BIAS. Setting AUTO_BIAS=3, gives bias for
even higher quality settings (lower speed) when
"Automatic Quality Settings" is selected. See
HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more details on AUTO_BIAS.
- Changed the default values so that DTS and AC3
are kept in their original format rather than
being reencoding. That choice can be changed
via the SETUP dialog.
- Completed testing on FFDSHOW rev 3882 and HAALI
Mediasplitter version 1.11.96.14. These are now
the recommended versions of these helper apps
and can be downloaded from jdobbs.net. They are
also now linked in the first post of the DOOM9
bug reporting thread.
- Made improvements that should improve accuracy
of sizing.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r2008).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r2008).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Downloaded all from first post in thread. Ran BDRB As Administrator(I'm on W7 32 bit) then ran inspect.exe. Tells me
Media Splitter is not recommended version.

[had-z]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.38.04). Changes for this version:- Corrected an issue in which end-times might be
incorrectly updated in an MPLS file for cases
where partial CLPI/M2TS playback is referenced.

this issue seems not properly fixed...

i do a backup of the dark knight (high speed option) and when the partial playback of M2TS is referred (in the special feature "play movie with focus points") i obtain a black screen when the enter button is pressed in some points. In other scenes the scene of the referenced M2TS is played correctly but when is supossed to return to the movie the screen remains black for a few minutes before resume the movie playback.

Tested with TMT5.

Cheers Jdobbs.

[Capsbackup]

Downloaded all from first post in thread. Ran BDRB As Administrator(I'm on W7 32 bit) then ran inspect.exe. Tells me
Media Splitter is not recommended version.

Read just a few posts above this! ( To previous page ) :rolleyes:

[Capsbackup]

Tested with TMT5.


You need to test it on a standalone. It has been repeatedly said by jdobbs that he does NOT accept bug reports from software players! :cool:

[had-z]

You need to test it on a standalone. It has been repeatedly said by jdobbs that he does NOT accept bug reports from software players! :cool:

Yeah, i know but when i reported this issue the last time i played the backup in TMT5 and PDVD10, after that i burned to bd-r and played on PS3, showing the same issue...

I supose this bug is not related with the player because is a problem with the mpls reference times.

sorry if i'm wrong.

[Capsbackup]

Yeah, i know but when i reported this issue the last time i played the backup in TMT5 and PDVD10, after that i burned to bd-r and played on PS3, showing the same issue...

I supose this bug is not related with the player because is a problem with the mpls reference times.

sorry if i'm wrong.

That is why a BD-RE is the best choice to test with on questionable backups. :p

[MilesAhead]

Read just a few posts above this! ( To previous page ) :rolleyes:

I see. For a bit I thought maybe it was dependent on the order of installs.

[jdobbs]

I see. For a bit I thought maybe it was dependent on the order of installs.Nope, just sloppiness on my part.

[sonate]

JDobbs, if you can help

A Criterion Collection BD "Army of Shadows" I attempted to compress to fit on BD25. Full disc backup but the message pops up when the last A/V stream is ready to be re encoded. This is probably because resizing issues are affecting several of the previously recoded m2t's making four of them larger than the originals.

This also occurred using the previous version of BD Rebuilder. But the first time I tried to compress I used the standard output target size of 25 bd but ended up with an almost 2gb oversize but without the oversize message. So I adjusted the desired output down to 22170mb. This is when the oversize message appeared.

Comparing original uncompressed m2t files to the finished compressed mt2, for instance one uncompressed file [00320] was 3,732,522kb before and 6,199,944kb after compression. (See two attached images, the top one is original rip)

12324

12325

The ini/config

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.4
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=22174
AUTO_BURN=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22174
VERBOSE_STATUS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
AUTO_BLANK=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\ORIGINAL BD\ARMY_OF_SHADOWS\
WORKING_PATH=D:\BD REB WORK FOLDER\
COLOR_BOOST=1


The inf

[Status]
LABEL=ARMY_OF_SHADOWS
VERSION=v0.38.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45929434188
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=45061926912
TARGET_SIZE=23251124224
REDUCTION=.496730132994806
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1.5
COMPLETED=11
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00319]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=101787300
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31955040
NSIZE=78587904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00321]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=167971019
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35153280
NSIZE=205664256
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00327]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=244705191
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=38848320
NSIZE=439787520
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00326]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=303622312
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41700960
NSIZE=688336896
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00318]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=401317001
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=46522080
NSIZE=653813760
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00328]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=608975057
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=56610720
NSIZE=866918400
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00323]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=787774253
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=65108160
NSIZE=1116868608
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00324]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=1305951937
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=90198720
NSIZE=2428981248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00325]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=1537646836
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=101414880
NSIZE=2220601344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00322]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=1690755053
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=108878400
NSIZE=4651640832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00320]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=1898553497
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=119342880
NSIZE=6348742656
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00274]
AUDIO=11
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=2683673524
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=419198880
NSIZE=15377645568
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

And the log

[09:15:03] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: ARMY_OF_SHADOWS
- Input BD size: 42.78 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:11:24.506]
- Target BD size: 21.65 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:17:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:17:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00319]
- [09:17:12] Reencoding: VID_00319 (1 of 12)
- [09:23:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00321]
- [09:23:12] Reencoding: VID_00321 (2 of 12)
- [09:35:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00327]
- [09:35:58] Reencoding: VID_00327 (3 of 12)
- [09:55:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00326]
- [09:56:15] Reencoding: VID_00326 (4 of 12)
- [10:21:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00318]
- [10:21:25] Reencoding: VID_00318 (5 of 12)
- [10:44:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
- [10:44:43] Reencoding: VID_00328 (6 of 12)
- [11:31:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00323]
- [11:31:54] Reencoding: VID_00323 (7 of 12)
- [12:32:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00324]
- [12:33:45] Reencoding: VID_00324 (8 of 12)
- [14:08:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00325]
- [14:10:06] Reencoding: VID_00325 (9 of 12)
- [16:13:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00322]
- [16:15:30] Reencoding: VID_00322 (10 of 12)
- [18:31:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00320]
- [18:33:18] Reencoding: VID_00320 (11 of 12)
- [20:46:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00274]
- [20:50:33] Reencoding: VID_00274 (12 of 12)
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- [04:12:44]PHASE ONE complete
- [04:12:44]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [04:12:44] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [04:13:19] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

[Sharc]

DB-RB v0.38.04.
I had repeated crashes (ffdshow.ax).
Installation of the former matroska splitter 1.9.42.1 solved the problem.

[jdobbs]

DB-RB v0.38.04.
I had repeated crashes (ffdshow.ax).
Installation of the former matroska splitter 1.9.42.1 solved the problem.Interesting. I've been running the new one for at least a few weeks now with no issues.

[DMagic1]

Just got back.
Ran the project again with the v.0.38.04 with "Use X264's internal LAVF for decoding checked" and there was no glitch.

Now I'm not sure what made the difference, the new version or BDR or having that version of x264 running?

I may run it again without that setting check just to see.

[sonate]

JD, I updated my previous post with more info including the INI

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1509509#post1509509

[woecarlson]

Hello all,

I believe the source disc has issues (DVDFab and AnyDVD HD both took an exceptionally long amount of time to rip), but I wanted to ask on this forum specifically about this message in the BD Rebuilder log as I've never seen it before. I have copied/pasted the log file and will attach here.

Thanks!

[A.Fenderson]

You might just copy and paste the log into a box offset by code tags for a faster response, as your attachment is pending approval.

[woecarlson]

You might just copy and paste the log into a box offset by code tags for a faster response, as your attachment is pending approval.

[17:03:42] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES_OF_THE_CARIBBEAN_2_-_R
- Input BD size: 28.65 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:30:40.031]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:03:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:03:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [17:03:43] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 2)
- [17:03:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24 frames
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [17:03:43] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:04:05] Video Encode complete
- [17:04:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:04:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:04:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (49143 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[17:28:40] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[RichardB]

Hi All!

After installing all programs as instructed in the first post of this thread, I go to run BD Rebuilder and I get this:

Component "MSCOMCTLOCX" or one of it's dependencies not currently registered a file is missing or invalid

Any idea what is wrong?

(PS.. Sorry if this question is asked somewhere else in this thread)

Richard

[worknstiff]

@ RichardB Re:After installing all programs as instructed in the first post of this thread, I go to run BD Rebuilder and I get this:

If you are installing the newest version of BD_Rebuilder and the first time you run the program, you have to right click BD_Rebuilder.exe and run as Adminstrator to allow registry charges. This maybe if you are running Win7 only, I don't remember if it's for XP also. Hope this helps, worknstiff

@jdobbs, was a little apprenhensive to install the new BD-RB v0.38.04, especially because of installing all the helper programs. I uninstalled each one and reinstalled the new ones and everything is working perfectly. I have just finished the third encode and it is tearing through the forth, thanks for all the hard work.

[Sharc]

Interesting. I've been running the new one for at least a few weeks now with no issues.
Well, the issue is reproducible here. I re-installed the new version, tried with another source, and it failed again. I resize to 720p. It crashes with the first attempt for CRF prediction.
Reverting to the former haali version cured the problem. Maybe it's only with my system? I am on Vista.
Would the new haali version have any significant benefit for the DB-RB application?

[RichardB]

you have to right click BD_Rebuilder.exe and run as Adminstrator to allow registry charges.

Looks like it worked, it installed. I'll rebuild my first bluray tonight.

BTW, anyone know of good BR playback software that will allow me to take a screen capture that I can export to a photo manipulation program like Photoshop? They used to have it (Single Frame Screen Capture) in Power DVD, but they did away with it!

Richard

[Ch3vr0n]

@Richard: No real player allows this afaik. BD licensing restrictions stuff

[jdobbs]

Well, the issue is reproducible here. I re-installed the new version, tried with another source, and it failed again. I resize to 720p. It crashes with the first attempt for CRF prediction.
Reverting to the former haali version cured the problem. Maybe it's only with my system? I am on Vista.
Would the new haali version have any significant benefit for the DB-RB application? I'll try a couple discs using CRF and see how it goes.

Nothing significant to BD-RB that I can think of... and definitely no dependencies. I was just trying to keep a little more current. The older version is fine.

@All

Has anyone else had any problems with the HAALI upgrade?

[jdobbs]

Looks like it worked, it installed. I'll rebuild my first bluray tonight.

BTW, anyone know of good BR playback software that will allow me to take a screen capture that I can export to a photo manipulation program like Photoshop? They used to have it (Single Frame Screen Capture) in Power DVD, but they did away with it!

Richard You can play the M2TS files directly with MPC and do a pause followed by a screen capture. Then just paste it into MSPAINT.

[berndy2001]

The subs for the PiP is a little weird. If I remember correctly they are referenced indirectly -- which can make it a little confusing. I'll go back and check how I'm updating it.
I want kindly ask, if there is a solution in sight?

[greslogo]

Not sure where the problem is but it seems like I started to have issues with the last 2 versions of BD Rebuilder. I use Anydvd to rip. At least 1/2 the BD's I rip won't play on my Sony BD Player, which I've had for < 2 years. They play (AUTO) fine on my PC. The seems to encode fine (no errors) but show UNKNOWN in my player. I have no idea where to start tracking down the problem. The blanks I use are the same I have always used.

HELP !!!!!!

[jdobbs]

Not sure where the problem is but it seems like I started to have issues with the last 2 versions of BD Rebuilder. I use Anydvd to rip. At least 1/2 the BD's I rip won't play on my Sony BD Player, which I've had for < 2 years. They play (AUTO) fine on my PC. The seems to encode fine (no errors) but show UNKNOWN in my player. I have no idea where to start tracking down the problem. The blanks I use are the same I have always used.

HELP !!!!!! Almost definitely the media or the way it is being burned. Check your settings in the burning software. Even better, let BD-RB do the burn automatically through IMGBURN.

[greslogo]

I am using IMGBURN as I have been all along.

The media is from the same batch that I have burned with no issue all along. I'm really stumped.

[worknstiff]

@ Ch3vr0n RE:@Richard: No real player allows this afaik.

ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 has a way to capture a 1280x544 jpeg thumbnail by hitting (P) or right click the playback screen and (Capture Image) and saves in my documents (ArcSoft) by default. I know it's not a HD pict but works for me to do thumbs on my Movie folders. Don't know if there is a setting to increase the default image quality. Hope this helps, worknstiff

[Capsbackup]

Off topic of bugs report, but DGMPGDEC or dgavcdec will let you capture a still bmp at full resolution. ;)

[CV91913]

BTW, anyone know of good BR playback software that will allow me to take a screen capture that I can export to a photo manipulation program like Photoshop? They used to have it (Single Frame Screen Capture) in Power DVD, but they did away with it!

Richard

Just use the MPC player that is in the tools directory of bd_rebuilder. Pause the image you want to save and select "save image" from the file menu. It will allow you to save the image on the screen. It saves it in whatever resolution the clip is in. You can save to a .bmp, .jpg, or .png. You can also do thumbnails.

[RobertM]

The media is from the same batch that I have burned with no issue all along. I'm really stumped.

Your BD burner could be be failing.

[greslogo]

Wouldn't I have issues playing the same BD's on the PC, though ?

[sytyguy]

Just use the MPC player that is in the tools directory of bd_rebuilder. Pause the image you want to save and select "save image" from the file menu. It will allow you to save the image on the screen. It saves it in whatever resolution the clip is in. You can save to a .bmp, .jpg, or .png. You can also do thumbnails.
Weird that both MPC and WMP will not play any sound, is there something I'm missing? However, VLC plays the sound perfectly.

[hoju3508]

@All

Has anyone else had any problems with the HAALI upgrade?

Still using MatroskaSplitter110109.exe (702kB). Last time I had sync issues with the audio when upgrading to the latest version of Haali.

[hoju3508]

@sytyguy, check Play -> Filters -> DTS Decoder (or whatever the format) is set up correctly.

[jdobbs]

Wouldn't I have issues playing the same BD's on the PC, though ? No. Not if it is the same drive that is creating it.

[jdobbs]

Weird that both MPC and WMP will not play any sound, is there something I'm missing? However, VLC plays the sound perfectly. That could be because it is HD audio.

[sytyguy]

@sytyguy, check Play -> Filters -> DTS Decoder (or whatever the format) is set up correctly.
Thanks for the reply, but on selecting "filters" there is nothing indicating any kind of audio setting.

What is there, are the following:
Video Mixing Render 9 (Renderless), and ffdshow Video Decoder.

[sytyguy]

That could be because it is HD audio.
HD audio was not selected, but thanks for responding.

[sonate]

in reference to

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...09#post1509509

I created a movie only backup and then another backup with everything but the main movie removed via Clown BD appropriately adjusting the size for each. Renaming the M2ts, mpls and clipinf files in the movie only to match the filenames in the original, I then pasted them into the backup of the full disk minus the movie, and managed to get a good working backup with proper size reductions in each stream.

Here's an image of the m2ts in this one to compare to previous attempts.

12333

[hoju3508]

@sytyguy, my bad...I'm actually using MPC Home Cinema (http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/download-media-player-classic-hc.html) instead of MPC, and it has that option.

[jdobbs]

Let's all redirect our focus here. This thread has gotten so far from "bug reports" I have to dig through 20 "here's what I feel" posts to get to a bug. What does somebody's experience removing things with "Clown BD" have to do with a BD-RB bug report? Please move those discussions elsewhere. Open a new thread when you have something you want to debate or discuss.

[sytyguy]

@sytyguy, my bad...I'm actually using Media Player Classic (http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/download-media-player-classic-hc.html) instead of MPC, and it has that option.
Thank you, I installed Media Player Classic and it plays the audio. The only other problem I have with BD ripped movies is none of the players except VLC will display subtitles, and of course only Media Player Classic and VLC will play the audio.

There has got to be something I am missing here, darn it?

Thanks again.

[sonate]

Let's all redirect our focus here. This thread has gotten so far from "bug reports" I have to dig through 20 "here's what I feel" posts to get to a bug. What does somebody's experience removing things with "Clown BD" have to do with a BD-RB bug report? Please move those discussions elsewhere. Open a new thread when you have something you want to debate or discuss.

I thought I posted you a very detailed bug report. While waiting for a response I then posted my experience with piecing together two runs of BD rebuilder to try to help in showing that without the main title, there weren't any aberrations and gross over sizing of the extras. Being naive, I thought it would be a help to you. The original bug report was just a few posts ago.... #12312. If there is a problem posting that as well, then I'm confused but I'll avoid doing it in the future.

I appreciate your efforts and hope you please accept my apology for p'ing you off and making your job more difficult. I intended to do neither.

[jdobbs]

I'm not p'ssed. I'm sorry if I came off that way. I'm just trying to get back to the purpose of this thread. Of course it didn't work, as the next post after mine was more-of-the-same. Sigh... :(

[picrade]

Has something changed in version 0.38.04 regarding LPCM audio?
I have tried a couple of movie only backups with this new version and it always reencodes LPCM into AC3,
even though both KEEP_HD_AUDIO and KEEP_HD_LPCM are set to 1 in the INI file.

This wasn't the case in the previous versions. The LPCM audio would be kept intact with the above settings.

[laserfan]

I'm not p'ssed. I'm sorry if I came off that way. I'm just trying to get back to the purpose of this thread. Of course it didn't work, as the next post after mine was more-of-the-same. Sigh... :(As a mod (and the thread owner), You control the Vertical. You control the Horizontal. ;)

Dunno how hard it is to do, but I would simply delete all OT posts. I think at least some here would start getting the point! :devil:

And feel free to delete this post too! :)

[jdobbs]

Has something changed in version 0.38.04 regarding LPCM audio?
I have tried a couple of movie only backups with this new version and it always reencodes LPCM into AC3,
even though both KEEP_HD_AUDIO and KEEP_HD_LPCM are set to 1 in the INI file.

This wasn't the case in the previous versions. The LPCM audio would be kept intact with the above settings. Nothing has changed in the handling of LPCM or HD audio. What have you selected as your output size? Please review the FAQ in the sticky on this sub-forum. My guess is that you are outputting to DVD-5/9 -- and HD Audio cannot be written to those discs (they are too small).

[picrade]

Nothing has changed in the handling of LPCM or HD audio. What have you selected as your output size? Please review the FAQ in the sticky on this sub-forum. My guess is that you are outputting to DVD-5/9 -- and HD Audio cannot be written to those discs (they are too small).

Fair enough.
I was reencoding some video clips individually so they would all fit on a BD-25.
The custom size was about 4-5 GB for each clip.

[jdobbs]

Fair enough.
I was reencoding some video clips individually so they would all fit on a BD-25.
The custom size was about 4-5 GB for each clip. Sometimes you'll find a single HD audio track that is 4-5GB by itself.

Of course my opinion is that HD audio is nothing more than a gimmick anyway. AC3 (DD5.1) is your best bet and is indistinguishable from the original in double-blind tests at 640Kbs.

[KeVe1983]

Hey jdobbs,

New Problem with Just Go With It

I'm on 38.04.

After Encoding to BD25 including Menue and Extras, the Menue did not work anymore.

The Background is playing, but no Buttons pop up.
Tested on PC with TMT and with my Dune HD SMART

Checked the original Menue m2ts, and the BD25 Menue m2ts. Both are the same, so Menue is not reencoded by BD RB.

Any help on this?

[jdobbs]

Hey jdobbs,

New Problem with Just Go With It

I'm on 38.04.

After Encoding to BD25 including Menue and Extras, the Menue did not work anymore.

The Background is playing, but no Buttons pop up.
Tested on PC with TMT and with my Dune HD SMART

Checked the original Menue m2ts, and the BD25 Menue m2ts. Both are the same, so Menue is not reencoded by BD RB.

Any help on this? Since the menu is unchanged, I have to assume the problem is elsewhere -- either media or (more likely) the player. Please test with a standalone player.

Is this a full backup, or have you edited (preprocessed) in some way to make a disc with only the menus and extras?

[KeVe1983]

The Dune HD Smart is a SA Player ;)

It's a full Backup, not edited before.

First Backup was from a Bluray i ripped myself.
Second Backup was from a Bluray ripped by a friend ;)

Both with the same result

[RobertM]

The Dune HD Smart is a SA Player

It sure looks like a HT-PC, not a "stand alone".

[jdobbs]

It sure looks like a HT-PC, not a "stand alone". It doesn't matter anyway... I'm picking up that disc later today and will give it a test.

[Capsbackup]

I did the R1 (A) version of Just Go With It to BD-25, ripped with Anydvd HD, and it worked perfectly for me! :)

[jdobbs]

I did the R1 (A) version of Just Go With It to BD-25, ripped with Anydvd HD, and it worked perfectly for me! :) Yeah, I suspect it will for me as well.

[worknstiff]

@RobertM RE:It sure looks like a HT-PC, not a "stand alone".

The Dune HD Smart is a Media File Network player that can play a Bluray file folder but you're right, It can hardly be called a "stand alone", disk player.

[isoss]

hoi Djobs

It is still not posible to encode secundare audio DTS expres when wil this problem be fix?

Greatings

Isoss

[Ch3vr0n]

no it still aint possible. It will be possible for jdobbs when he finds a solution to the remuxing problem he's got or when a free encoder is develloped or found that supports dts-e

[drmih]

Actually from earlier replies it looks like it has to be a remux of the original dts-e. It is possible to use eac3to to extract the dts-e track, and then ffmpeg or aften can re-encode it as an eac3, which could be remuxed and is a compliant secondary PiP audio format. However, apparently there can be control segments within the dts-e track to control the audio level and mixing, which would be lost in a re-encode. I have to say that I think that in most cases you could get away with using a re-encode eac3 track.

[jdobbs]

Actually from earlier replies it looks like it has to be a remux of the original dts-e. It is possible to use eac3to to extract the dts-e track, and then ffmpeg or aften can re-encode it as an eac3, which could be remuxed and is a compliant secondary PiP audio format. However, apparently there can be control segments within the dts-e track to control the audio level and mixing, which would be lost in a re-encode. I have to say that I think that in most cases you could get away with using a re-encode eac3 track. Actually I don't believe they (AFTEN or FFMPEG) can reencode it... because they can't decode it. Also, the output would have to be either E-AC3 (DD Plus) or DTS-E. I don't think either of those encoders can do that.

[drmih]

You're probably correct but I have used eac3to take a dts-e track from a disc and produce a standalone audio track (I can't remember whether I did it to ac3 or DTS) which is the correct length and I have listened to for verification. Although I haven't got a recent build, I have seen source code posts which advise that libavcodec now has a patch for eac3enc.c and FFMpeg does mention E-AC-3 encoding. There is the associated text:

"This patch set adds basic support for E-AC-3 encoding. The quality is pretty much still the same as normal AC-3, but this is the starting point for adding more E-AC-3 features. It does have the advantage of supporting a wider variety and range of bit rates rather than just the 19 supported by AC-3. For example, 48kHz content can go up to 1024kbps, and will eventually be able to go even higher.

This is part of my project sponsored by the Foundation for Free Multimedia Technology. Future improvements will include:

- E-AC-3 mixing and production metadata support
- high bitrate support using fewer blocks per frame
- AHT encoding (better quality via better quantization)
- Spectral Extension support
- optional: Enhanced Coupling "

**I have looked at the latest FFMpeg (26/06/2011) and the Help does give an insight, but whether it is suitable for what you're trying to achieve is beyond me:
"File formats:
D. = Demuxing supported
.E = Muxing supported
--

DE eac3 raw E-AC-3"

"E-AC-3 Encoder AVOptions:
-dialnorm <int> E..A. Dialogue Level (dB)
-stereo_rematrixing <int> E..A. Stereo Rematrixing
-channel_coupling <int> E..A. Channel Coupling
auto E..A. Selected by the Encoder
-cpl_start_band <int> E..A. Coupling Start Band
auto E..A. Selected by the Encoder"

"Codecs:
D..... = Decoding supported
.E.... = Encoding supported
..V... = Video codec
..A... = Audio codec
..S... = Subtitle codec
...S.. = Supports draw_horiz_band
....D. = Supports direct rendering method 1
.....T = Supports weird frame truncation
------

DEA eac3 ATSC A/52 E-AC-3"

[jdobbs]

And how would you decode DTS-E (for reencoding)? There are lots of ways to decode e-ac3, are you sure that isn't what you've reencoded before? If you've reencoded DTS-E -- then you must have a payware decoder installed somehow. I can tell you that nothing on my system will decode it. But if you've found a way to do it (with freeware), I'd love to hear the details.

The bottom line is that DTS-E should prefereably to be kept intact. In fact both DTS-E and E-AC3 secondary audio should be kept intact. Since the bitrate is already low, there is no reason to reencode. You really don't accomplish anything by doing so. The problem is how to remux DTS-E...

[drmih]

As I mentioned, you can extract the dts-e track from a disc using eac3to - either raw, or as I did, to another format. That definately works as I've done it (I will check that unbeknown to me a commericial codec wasn't picked up, as I have arcsoft installed - I certainly haven't got anything but software players on the machine). As there is currently only the ability to remux an E-AC3 track, the suggestion was that as a work around you could convert from DTS-E into E-AC3 to get a secondary audio capability. Obviously keeping them untouched and remuxing them has got to be better, but given that no one has successfully managed this in a year and a half suggests that it's not easy.

**Reading through the old updates to eac3to it appears that it might automatically pick up either the nero or arcsoft dts decoders if present. Although these are 'commercial', given that many people will have them installed, couldn't it be an option to use these if present? I remember there was a work around in the early versions when there was the issue with the fields (before a solution was found) where an arcsoft library was used.

[jdobbs]

As I mentioned, you can extract the dts-e track from a disc using eac3to - either raw, or as I did, to another format. That definately works as I've done it (I will check that unbeknown to me a commericial codec wasn't picked up, as I have arcsoft installed - I certainly haven't got anything but software players on the machine). As there is currently only the ability to remux an E-AC3 track, the suggestion was that as a work around you could convert from DTS-E into E-AC3 to get a secondary audio capability. Obviously keeping them untouched and remuxing them has got to be better, but given that no one has successfully managed this in a year and a half suggests that it's not easy.

**Reading through the old updates to eac3to it appears that it might automatically pick up either the nero or arcsoft dts decoders if present. Although these are 'commercial', given that many people will have them installed, couldn't it be an option to use these if present? I remember there was a work around in the early versions when there was the issue with the fields (before a solution was found) where an arcsoft library was used. Sorry, but I will not build any dependencies on commercial software.

[illuminatori]

Hello, i dont know if this is a bug or just me missing something obvious.

Just did a fresh install of my OS (win 7) downloaded all files from first page of this thread (as i have done on numerous occasions before) when i ran the inspection it reported HAALI splitter wrong version-so i did a wipe and re-download but the same thing happend again.

Is it a problem on my side or is there something wrong with the download.


- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Thank you.

[jdobbs]

That's a bug in v0.38.04. If the size of the HAALI\Matroskasplitter program folder is 5,341,184 bytes you should be alright.

[illuminatori]

Thank you for your reply and for a great programe.

[drmih]

Sorry, but I will not build any dependencies on commercial software.

Okay. Perhaps just a quick question. Assuming I only have a rudimentary knowledge of bdedit, if I was to convert a dts-e track to eac3, and then remux the m2ts with it, how messed up with the files be to make them ready for bd rebuilder? I know that I'd have to change the flag of the audio stream type, but is that just the tip of the iceberg?

[jdobbs]

Okay. Perhaps just a quick question. Assuming I only have a rudimentary knowledge of bdedit, if I was to convert a dts-e track to eac3, and then remux the m2ts with it, how messed up with the files be to make them ready for bd rebuilder? I know that I'd have to change the flag of the audio stream type, but is that just the tip of the iceberg? With a secondary it's likely to be a mess, because of the way they are referenced in the MPLS.

[picrade]

That's a bug in v0.38.04. If the size of the HAALI\Matroskasplitter program folder is 5,341,184 bytes you should be alright.

I have similar problem as illuminatori a few posts ago with Inspect on a new Windows 7 machine.
It checks AVISYNTH version which is ok then it pops up the error:

Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch

The next item to check would have been Matroska splitter.
The size of my Matroska splitter folder is 5,298,204.
The size on disk is 5,341,184.
This is the version I downloaded using the link on the first page of this thread.

Is this error also related to the bug in 0.39.04 that you mentioned?

[jfcarbel]

In the first post regarding ffdshow- "and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. "

Can you indicate if we should choose libmpeg2 or libavcodec.

[jdobbs]

I have similar problem as illuminatori a few posts ago with Inspect on a new Windows 7 machine.
It checks AVISYNTH version which is ok then it pops up the error:

Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch

The next item to check would have been Matroska splitter.
The size of my Matroska splitter folder is 5,298,204.
The size on disk is 5,341,184.
This is the version I downloaded using the link on the first page of this thread.

Is this error also related to the bug in 0.39.04 that you mentioned? No that wouldn't be related to the error I mentioned. Weird, though, that you could get that error when others don't. I'll check it out.

You're right, I quoted the "size on disc" rather than the actual size. 5,298,204 is what I should have said.

[jdobbs]

In the first post regarding ffdshow- "and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. "

Can you indicate if we should choose libmpeg2 or libavcodec. Either is fine. I use libavcodec.

[RobertM]

Hi Folks,

I'm having a small problem with a BD-25 "movie only" backup of Wall-E (region A). The entire rebuild plays fine up to about the 1:10:00 mark, then there is a slight hesitation (a few seconds), and then, without any intervention from me, the movie continues perfectly to the end. I tried a BD-50 "full" backup and it doesn't have the hesitation. I repeated the BD-25 "movie only" rebuild and the hesitation appears again at exactly the same spot. My standalone player is a Sony S580, and I tried this with both BD-RB 38.03 and 38.04.

I noticed that the "movie only" rebuild was only approx 19 GB and that no re-encoding was required, so I used tsMuxeR to create a manual rebuild. I joined all the parts of the stream together, using BD-Rebuilder to guide me in selecting the playlist file order. The resulting contiguous m2ts file plays fine without the hesitation.

I've done many builds and this is the first instance of a glitch like this. My manual build works fine, so I'm not in any panic over this. But if further investigation is warranted to determine if this is an actual bug then I'm willing to do some more troubleshooting.

Regards,
Bob

[owine]

Trying to shrink a BD50 to a BD25, but keep hitting this error (attached) no matter what disc I try.

Have all the requirements, inspect comes back clean. Something on my end? Any help appreciated.

[jfcarbel]

I scanned over the release notes and did not find any new features related to cutting end credits. tsmuxer does accept values to cut a stream.

Does BD rebuilder use tsmuxer and if so could it be possible to add a hidden_Opt to pass in these cut parms?

Have some titles that are only over by a hair and then they have to be re-encoded. Would be nice to be able to chop a ## number of minutes of the end od the stream.

[jdobbs]

Trying to shrink a BD50 to a BD25, but keep hitting this error (attached) no matter what disc I try.

Have all the requirements, inspect comes back clean. Something on my end? Any help appreciated.That error is "File already exists". Try cleaning out the WORKFILES folder and try again. BD-RB is attempting to rename the output files from the audio extraction and can't because the target already exists.

[jdobbs]

I scanned over the release notes and did not find any new features related to cutting end credits. tsmuxer does accept values to cut a stream.

Does BD rebuilder use tsmuxer and if so could it be possible to add a hidden_Opt to pass in these cut parms?

Have some titles that are only over by a hair and then they have to be re-encoded. Would be nice to be able to chop a ## number of minutes of the end od the stream. Please put requests in the "Features Request" thread. This is a bug reporting thread.

[Edit] I see you've added it there as well...

[berndy2001]

Hello,

I have problems with Gladiator - 10th Anniversary Edition (Extended and theatrical version on one disc). The Main movie is splitted in many m2ts files.

There are a lot of judders in one m2ts file (chapter), when playing with powerdvd 11 (I know I should test it on a standalone first, but I havn't one).
The strange thing is, the file (00125.m2ts) isn't processed by BR-RB. So the HD audio and some languages are not removed from this part.
Why is the part 125 not processed by BR-RB? File has 187MB, so not too small...

[jdobbs]

Hello,

I have problems with Gladiator - 10th Anniversary Edition (Extended and theatrical version on one disc). The Main movie is splitted in many m2ts files.

There are a lot of judders in one m2ts file (chapter), when playing with powerdvd 11 (I know I should test it on a standalone first, but I havn't one).
The strange thing is, the file (00125.m2ts) isn't processed by BR-RB. So the HD audio and some languages are not removed from this part.
Why is the part 125 not processed by BR-RB? File has 187MB, so not too small... If the MPLS lists an M2TS as a part of a playlist, it should be processsed with the same parameters as all other parts of the playlist. If it doesn't, there has to be a bug in there somewhere. I'll do some testing on that disc to make sure everything is working correctly.

[jdobbs]

Hello,

I have problems with Gladiator - 10th Anniversary Edition (Extended and theatrical version on one disc). The Main movie is splitted in many m2ts files.

There are a lot of judders in one m2ts file (chapter), when playing with powerdvd 11 (I know I should test it on a standalone first, but I havn't one).
The strange thing is, the file (00125.m2ts) isn't processed by BR-RB. So the HD audio and some languages are not removed from this part.
Why is the part 125 not processed by BR-RB? File has 187MB, so not too small... I can't seem to find that disc. Is if available in the US? All I can find is the "Sapphire Series" and no Extended version.

[owine]

That error is "File already exists". Try cleaning out the WORKFILES folder and try again. BD-RB is attempting to rename the output files from the audio extraction and can't because the target already exists.

Cleared the target working folder and still getting the same error. Even tried a fresh working folder, no luck.

Edit: Let me add some details about my setup since it is unconventional. I have a Mac but run Windows 7 x64 in BootCamp. I also use Parallels to run in a VM. Native or virtualized I get the same error. The drive I am using is an external HFS+ drive that is accessed either using MacDrive when native or thru Parallels sharing when virtualized. Not sure if this would have an effect,but figure I would mention it.

[berndy2001]

Thanks for looking at it.

the playlists lists the m2ts file (see screenshot).

I can´t find a availability for the US, its a german edition. There a two editions on the disc: Extended with 2:50:56 and normal with 2:34:58 runtime.
But I think the Sapphire Series (remasted) (http://www.dvdtown.com/moviedatabase/release-details/gladiator/blu-ray/28838) is like the 10th Anniversary Edition (also remasted). On both discs are the normal and extended edition.

Edit: Maybe its not the same edition, german is from Universal, US from Paramount...

[jdobbs]

Cleared the target working folder and still getting the same error. Even tried a fresh working folder, no luck.

Edit: Let me add some details about my setup since it is unconventional. I have a Mac but run Windows 7 x64 in BootCamp. I also use Parallels to run in a VM. Native or virtualized I get the same error. The drive I am using is an external HFS+ drive that is accessed either using MacDrive when native or thru Parallels sharing when virtualized. Not sure if this would have an effect,but figure I would mention it.

Sounds like there is a bug in the O/S interface that is preventing the system level renaming of files. But I'm no expert on Macs.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for looking at it.

the playlists lists the m2ts file (see screenshot).

I can´t find a availability for the US, its a german edition. There a two editions on the disc: Extended with 2:50:56 and normal with 2:34:58 runtime.
But I think the Sapphire Series (remasted) (http://www.dvdtown.com/moviedatabase/release-details/gladiator/blu-ray/28838) is like the 10th Anniversary Edition (also remasted). On both discs are the normal and extended edition.

Edit: Maybe its not the same edition, german is from Universal, US from Paramount... I guess I can try that one and see if it maps the same way as yours. I must have missed that it had an extended version on it...

[jdobbs]

Hi Folks,

I'm having a small problem with a BD-25 "movie only" backup of Wall-E (region A). The entire rebuild plays fine up to about the 1:10:00 mark, then there is a slight hesitation (a few seconds), and then, without any intervention from me, the movie continues perfectly to the end. I tried a BD-50 "full" backup and it doesn't have the hesitation. I repeated the BD-25 "movie only" rebuild and the hesitation appears again at exactly the same spot. My standalone player is a Sony S580, and I tried this with both BD-RB 38.03 and 38.04.

I noticed that the "movie only" rebuild was only approx 19 GB and that no re-encoding was required, so I used tsMuxeR to create a manual rebuild. I joined all the parts of the stream together, using BD-Rebuilder to guide me in selecting the playlist file order. The resulting contiguous m2ts file plays fine without the hesitation.

I've done many builds and this is the first instance of a glitch like this. My manual build works fine, so I'm not in any panic over this. But if further investigation is warranted to determine if this is an actual bug then I'm willing to do some more troubleshooting.

Regards,
Bob Start the whole job over again (instead of just a rebuild). It sounds like X264 may have crashed and the system didn't pick up the error.

If you are overclocked -- slow it down a little. When a glitch like this gets through it's usually something odd happening at the system level. As summer reaches its peak I see more-and-more of this kind of report due to system overheating.

[owine]

Sounds like there is a bug in the O/S interface that is preventing the system level renaming of files. But I'm no expert on Macs.

That would make sense, but this is the only app I've ever had issues with.

[jdobbs]

That would make sense, but this is the only app I've ever had issues with. Of course, on the other hand, no one is reporting this problem except in the instance where it is running on the Mac... That section of code is executed in every multi-part backup done by BD Rebuilder. I would also submit that those system functions aren't used often by other apps. A program usually names a file one time when it is created and it stays that way throughout processing. But BD Rebuilder has to do it because TSMUXER creates a ridiculously long unmanagable name when it extracts certain types of multi-part audio streams.

[owine]

Of course, on the other hand, no one is reporting this problem except in the instance where it is running on the Mac... That section of code is executed in every backup done by BD Rebuilder.

Whoops my edit did not go through.

I will see if I can try with an NTFS drive and whether that helps since I cannot replace the computer so easily.

[jdobbs]

Whoops my edit did not go through.

I will see if I can try with an NTFS drive and whether that helps since I cannot replace the computer so easily. That might do it.

[owine]

That might do it.

Happy to report than with a NTFS formatted drive for the workfiles, it gets past this error point so promising so far.

[Mishap64]

Nothing has changed in the handling of LPCM or HD audio. What have you selected as your output size? Please review the FAQ in the sticky on this sub-forum. My guess is that you are outputting to DVD-5/9 -- and HD Audio cannot be written to those discs (they are too small).

Ive looked all over and cant seem to find this FAQ. Since 38.04 any of the backups I do with HD Audio has no sound when the output is around 10 gigs. Been looking all over on what to do. I do not see any errors in the logs Thanks

I currently do backups and keep the m2ts movies for my HTPC playback

[jdobbs]

Ive looked all over and cant seem to find this FAQ. Since 38.04 any of the backups I do with HD Audio has no sound when the output is around 10 gigs. Been looking all over on what to do. I do not see any errors in the logs Thanks

I currently do backups and keep the m2ts movies for my HTPC playback I don't know how you can miss it. It's at the top of the page you clicked to get here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157143

[Mishap64]

I seen that one, but it was written before 38.04 so I wasnt sure if it applied with the problem I am having with audio BD-5 or BD-9

[jdobbs]

I seen that one, but it was written before 38.04 so I wasnt sure if it applied with the problem I am having with audio BD-5 or BD-9 Do you really think I'm going to rewrite a new FAQ with every version released? I'll just update that one if something significant changes.

[colinhunt]

FYI folks, if you try to make a movie-only backup of Danish title "Klovn - the movie" and output is all messed up, be aware that it appears to be an issue with tsMuxeR, not BD-RB. Took me a while and some empirical tests to figure that out.

[jdobbs]

FYI folks, if you try to make a movie-only backup of Danish title "Klovn - the movie" and output is all messed up, be aware that it appears to be an issue with tsMuxeR, not BD-RB. Took me a while and some empirical tests to figure that out. Wow. "all messed up" doesn't give me a lot of information as to what might be done to fix it.

[colinhunt]

Wow. "all messed up" doesn't give me a lot of information as to what might be done to fix it.
I think you misunderstood the intent of my post. It was not in any way a comment on BD-RB's abilities; simply a FYI to anyone processing that particular title with BD-RB. I'm fairly certain you can't fix it because it's not caused by BD-RB.

I first processed the title with BD-RB and it came out stuttering really badly without audio. MediaInfo's data for the m2ts looked pretty odd so I guessed the problem lies with tsMuxeR (and not for the first time either). I dropped the movie file into tsMuxeR, remuxed into Blu-ray and output behaved exactly the same way.

Remuxing same movie file into Blu-ray with the old TsRemux (v0.0.21.2) results in a properly playing Blu-ray. QED, tsMuxeR dropped the ball, not BD-RB.

By the way, talking about giving you information... do you check your PMs?

[laserfan]

FYI folks, if you try to make a movie-only backup of Danish title "Klovn - the movie" and output is all messed up...

MediaInfo's data for the m2ts looked pretty odd...
But "messed up" and "pretty odd" are not helpful if you're trying to get anyone to understand-or-appreciate what you are seeing!

[colinhunt]

But "messed up" and "pretty odd" are not helpful if you're trying to get anyone to understand-or-appreciate what you are seeing!
What the H? My post wasn't trying to describe what I'm seeing! Set aside the caveman brain's urge for tribalism and taking sides, and think for a moment. I was simply letting people know that processing this particular BD doesn't work because of tsMuxeR; in other words, don't blame BD-RB if trying to process this title.

I assumed, foolishly it seems, that people reading this thread are aware of the dependency relationship between BD-RB and tsMuxeR, and of tsMuxeR's development status.

[jdobbs]

I think you misunderstood the intent of my post. It was not in any way a comment on BD-RB's abilities; simply a FYI to anyone processing that particular title with BD-RB. I'm fairly certain you can't fix it because it's not caused by BD-RB.

I first processed the title with BD-RB and it came out stuttering really badly without audio. MediaInfo's data for the m2ts looked pretty odd so I guessed the problem lies with tsMuxeR (and not for the first time either). I dropped the movie file into tsMuxeR, remuxed into Blu-ray and output behaved exactly the same way.

Remuxing same movie file into Blu-ray with the old TsRemux (v0.0.21.2) results in a properly playing Blu-ray. QED, tsMuxeR dropped the ball, not BD-RB.

By the way, talking about giving you information... do you check your PMs? I've fixed lots of problems caused by TSMUXER. It's just that most people don't know BD-RB is doing it.

[KeVe1983]

Strange Problem with ADJUSTMENT_BUREAU_G51
Looks like 3D, but this isn't a 3D Bluray Disc ^^

-38.04
-Full Backup
-2pass HQ
-Quicker Encode for Extras
-Resize 1080p to 720p
-Output Size 15000 MB

Here some Screens, idk what it is:

http://s7.directupload.net/images/110703/temp/jgr2x98w.png (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2574/jgr2x98w_png.htm)

http://s7.directupload.net/images/110703/temp/k8welj6z.png (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2574/k8welj6z_png.htm)

http://s1.directupload.net/images/110703/temp/i8ju3gnr.png (http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2574/i8ju3gnr_png.htm)

[colinhunt]

I've fixed lots of problems caused by TSMUXER. It's just that most people don't know BD-RB is doing it.
And nice work you've been doing, certainly. I suppose Klovn and those two japanese releases I mentioned earlier are throwing curveballs you haven't seen yet. Klovn, a Danish title, is flagged 1080i50 bottom field first, which is something I haven't seen on European releases previously.

[jdobbs]

And nice work you've been doing, certainly. I suppose Klovn and those two japanese releases I mentioned earlier are throwing curveballs you haven't seen yet. Klovn, a Danish title, is flagged 1080i50 bottom field first, which is something I haven't seen on European releases previously. That's interesting. I'm pretty sure I haven't see one of those. I may create a 1080i50 from scratch and see how TSMUXER handles it. By 1080i50 I assume you mean 1080i @ 25 fps (which is sometimes referred to as 1080i50 because of the 50 fields per second).

[jdobbs]

Just completed True Blood season 3 disc 3, and a whopping 36 .dts audio tracks were not converted to ac3 :eek: Just wanted to let you know that I finally picked this ups and tested it. For some reason NicDTSSource() just won't decode those files. I'll looking into a solution. I'll probably have to use DirectShowSource() to decode them when I run into this.

Weird though, I wonder what is different about them? These are the first DTS streams I've had an issue with.

[Capsbackup]

Just wanted to let you know that I finally picked this ups and tested it. For some reason NicDTSSource() just won't decode those files. I'll looking into a solution. I'll probably have to use DirectShowSource() to decode them when I run into this.

Weird though, I wonder what is different about them? These are the first DTS streams I've had an issue with.

Yes this is a strange one. :p
Disc 5 has over 200 DTS tracks that are not converted! :devil:
Yet there are a few that do get converted though. :confused:
I am pretty confident you will find and correct this issue, as rare as it probably is. :)

[colinhunt]

By 1080i50 I assume you mean 1080i @ 25 fps (which is sometimes referred to as 1080i50 because of the 50 fields per second).
Yup! Here's what MediaInfo says of the movie file's video portion (funny how it says NTSC despite the frame rate):

ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 29mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 26.5 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 35.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.511
Stream size : 16.6 GiB (85%)
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

>>>

In totally (?) unrelated news, I got the idea of running the Japanese release of Sky Captain through TsRemux first. As I probably mentioned earlier, both full backup and movie-only backup come out of BD-RB with picture and audio severely (as in several seconds) out-of-sync. Since TsRemux was able to create a fully working movie-only backup of "Klovn", I thought it might do the same for Sky Captain, and it did. However, whereas movie-only of Klovn needed no further processing (it fits on a BD25), Sky Captain's movie-only is almost 29GB. Processing TsRemuxed movie-only output through BD-RB results in audio being out-of-sync. There's something quite odd about the Japanese releases of Sky Captain and Sleepy Hollow :/

[k-c-ksum]

demux it with eac3to. Does that still mess it up?

[Capsbackup]

Just wanted to let you know that I finally picked this ups and tested it. For some reason NicDTSSource() just won't decode those files. I'll looking into a solution. I'll probably have to use DirectShowSource() to decode them when I run into this.

Weird though, I wonder what is different about them? These are the first DTS streams I've had an issue with.

Sorry to repeat, :o , but did you also experience the subtitles issue where they are always displayed with no capabilities to turn them off?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs, @Capsbackup

Could the problem you folks are discussing have anything to do with the following type of Compressed DTS?

http://www.intelligentsound.org/dts/dts-9624-compressed-surround-format-technology.html

[jdobbs]

Sorry to repeat, :o , but did you also experience the subtitles issue where they are always displayed with no capabilities to turn them off? I forgot about that. I'll burn it to disc and see...

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs, @Capsbackup

Could the problem you folks are discussing have anything to do with the following type of Compressed DTS?

http://www.intelligentsound.org/dts/dts-9624-compressed-surround-format-technology.html

The DTS audio properties for this disc vary from 768kbps/ 2.0/ 48kHz/24 bit and 768kbps/ 5.1/48kHz/24 bit and 256kbps/ 2.0/ 48kHz/24 bit. ( The ones that are not converting to AC3 )

[jdobbs]

Sorry to repeat, :o , but did you also experience the subtitles issue where they are always displayed with no capabilities to turn them off?

Sorry. My backup is playing correctly (no subtitles). Any more information that might help me repeat it?

Here's how I tested it:

1. Inserted disc
2. Waited for menu
3. Selected "Episodes"
4. Chose the first episode and played it.
5. No subtitles.

By the way, I've fixed the other issue. BD-RB looks for it to occur, and then switches to DirectshowSource() as the audio source. I just tested that too, and it works fine. If I don't get any negative feedback when I release this version, I may make DirectshowSource() the default at some point in the future.

[Capsbackup]

Sorry. My backup is playing correctly (no subtitles). Any more information that might help me repeat it?

Here's how I tested it:

1. Inserted disc
2. Waited for menu
3. Selected "Episodes"
4. Chose the first episode and played it.
5. No subtitles.

By the way, I've fixed the other issue. BD-RB looks for it to occur, and then switches to DirectshowSource() as the audio source. I just tested that too, and it works fine. If I don't get any negative feedback when I release this version, I may make DirectshowSource() the default at some point in the future.

I tried all five discs with the same results for all five, subtitles always on with no way to turn them off. These were BD9 full backups. Here is the inf and ini for disc 3. Hope it might help. I can't see what I could do differently regarding the subtitles displaying or not, so I am at a loss on this one! :confused:

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REDUCTION=.195523378404668
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=63
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
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VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=3138
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30915161
NSIZE=35622912
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MLINK=0
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PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=53348338
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2967
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32045040
NSIZE=47652864
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=17741935
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2883
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28668542
NSIZE=16343040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=86662669
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2954
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35188805
NSIZE=79091712
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=63598994
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2958
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33013507
NSIZE=56715264
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=10656694
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=3246
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27900000
NSIZE=8632320
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00072]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=31919626
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=2944
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30016138
NSIZE=28827648
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00073]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=12352923
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=3876
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27900000
NSIZE=10272768
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00074]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=12330098
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=3867
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27900000
NSIZE=10254336
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00075]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=7681084
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=3805
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27673798
NSIZE=7477248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=7677480
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
RATE=3803
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27673798
NSIZE=7550976
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Options]
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=100
KEEP_MBTREE=1
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=8250
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8400
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
USE_FILTERS=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
VERSION=0.38.0.3
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\BD RIPS\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D3\
WORKING_PATH=G:\TRUE_BLOOD_S3_D3 BDRB\

[jdobbs]

My test was a BD-25 backup. I'll try a BD-9 backup today.

[jdobbs]

I tried all five discs with the same results for all five, subtitles always on with no way to turn them off. These were BD9 full backups. Here is the inf and ini for disc 3. Hope it might help. I can't see what I could do differently regarding the subtitles displaying or not, so I am at a loss on this one! :confused: Well... by reencoding with your INI I'm able to repeat the problem. But I can't for the life of me find any reason why it is happening. I went through every video that is encoded (that isn't encoded in BD-25) -- nothing. I even wrote the BD-9 structure to a BD-RE with the same results.

I'm scratching my head on this one so far.

[Capsbackup]

Well... by reencoding with your INI I'm able to repeat the problem. But I can't for the life of me find any reason why it is happening. I went through every video that is encoded (that isn't encoded in BD-25) -- nothing. I even wrote the BD-9 structure to a BD-RE with the same results.

I'm scratching my head on this one so far.

Sorry to say I am relieved that it is not just me! :o I did burn my BD9 to BD-RE with the same results too.(subtitles always displayed) I did not try a BD-25 backup, but it sounds like that would be successfull. :)
Well this is a first for me, regarding the subtitles display, and it just so happens to be true for all five discs.
Since this is extremely rare, I understand and agree that this need not be a high priority fix. :p But thank you for following up with your discovery too. Much appreciated.
Damn vampire movies anyway.. :devil:

[jdobbs]

Sorry to say I am relieved that it is not just me! :o I did burn my BD9 to BD-RE with the same results too.(subtitles always displayed) I did not try a BD-25 backup, but it sounds like that would be successfull. :)
Well this is a first for me, regarding the subtitles display, and it just so happens to be true for all five discs.
Since this is extremely rare, I understand and agree that this need not be a high priority fix. :p But thank you for following up with your discovery too. Much appreciated.
Damn vampire movies anyway.. :devil: Well, obviously something is wrong and I need to fix it. I'll find it eventually.

[MILLZY]

Seem to be having a lot of problems over the last couple of days with encoding. I have tried multiple blu rays and basically the same problem on all of them.
The only success i have had is with wolverine with x264 lavf decoding ticked, then tried x264 lavf unticked with the same film and it failed.
I have uninstalled reinstalled but no joy. I wonder if you could take a look at the documentation for it please :confused:

The first encode is with lavf unticked and the second ticked wich finished.

[23:10:52] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: XMEN_WOLVERINE
- Input BD size: 41.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:44:28.821]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[23:10:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:10:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00296]
- [23:10:58] Reencoding: VID_00296 (1 of 24)
- [23:10:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 762 frames
- [23:10:58] Reencoding: VID_00296, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:11:18] Video Encode complete
- [23:11:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:11:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:11:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00294]
- [23:11:25] Reencoding: VID_00294 (2 of 24)
- [23:11:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 961 frames
- [23:11:25] Reencoding: VID_00294, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:11:43] Video Encode complete
- [23:11:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:11:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:11:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00298]
- [23:11:51] Reencoding: VID_00298 (3 of 24)
- [23:11:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,041 frames
- [23:11:51] Reencoding: VID_00298, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:12:18] Video Encode complete
- [23:12:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:12:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:12:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00317]
- [23:12:27] Reencoding: VID_00317 (4 of 24)
- [23:12:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,684 frames
- [23:12:27] Reencoding: VID_00317, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:12:59] Video Encode complete
- [23:12:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:12:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:13:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00301]
- [23:13:10] Reencoding: VID_00301 (5 of 24)
- [23:13:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,705 frames
- [23:13:10] Reencoding: VID_00301, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:13:50] Video Encode complete
- [23:13:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:13:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:13:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00295]
- [23:14:01] Reencoding: VID_00295 (6 of 24)
- [23:14:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,192 frames
- [23:14:01] Reencoding: VID_00295, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:14:43] Video Encode complete
- [23:14:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:14:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:14:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00323]
- [23:14:56] Reencoding: VID_00323 (7 of 24)
- [23:14:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,164 frames
- [23:14:56] Reencoding: VID_00323, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:17:17] Video Encode complete
- [23:17:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:17:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:17:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00318]
- [23:17:36] Reencoding: VID_00318 (8 of 24)
- [23:17:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,178 frames
- [23:17:36] Reencoding: VID_00318, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[23:22:45] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[04:42:12] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: XMEN_WOLVERINE
- Input BD size: 41.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:44:28.821]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[04:42:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:42:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00296]
- [04:42:18] Reencoding: VID_00296 (1 of 24)
- [04:42:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 762 frames
- [04:42:18] Reencoding: VID_00296, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:42:42] Video Encode complete
- [04:42:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:42:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:42:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00294]
- [04:42:49] Reencoding: VID_00294 (2 of 24)
- [04:42:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 961 frames
- [04:42:49] Reencoding: VID_00294, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:43:18] Video Encode complete
- [04:43:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:43:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:43:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00298]
- [04:43:29] Reencoding: VID_00298 (3 of 24)
- [04:43:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,041 frames
- [04:43:29] Reencoding: VID_00298, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:44:09] Video Encode complete
- [04:44:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:44:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:44:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00317]
- [04:44:21] Reencoding: VID_00317 (4 of 24)
- [04:44:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,684 frames
- [04:44:21] Reencoding: VID_00317, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:45:13] Video Encode complete
- [04:45:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:45:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:45:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00301]
- [04:45:24] Reencoding: VID_00301 (5 of 24)
- [04:45:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,705 frames
- [04:45:24] Reencoding: VID_00301, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:46:25] Video Encode complete
- [04:46:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:46:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:46:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00295]
- [04:46:38] Reencoding: VID_00295 (6 of 24)
- [04:46:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,192 frames
- [04:46:38] Reencoding: VID_00295, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:47:56] Video Encode complete
- [04:47:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:47:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:47:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00323]
- [04:48:11] Reencoding: VID_00323 (7 of 24)
- [04:48:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,164 frames
- [04:48:11] Reencoding: VID_00323, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:49:39] Video Encode complete
- [04:49:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:49:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:49:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00318]
- [04:50:00] Reencoding: VID_00318 (8 of 24)
- [04:50:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,178 frames
- [04:50:00] Reencoding: VID_00318, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:52:02] Video Encode complete
- [04:52:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:52:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:52:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00299]
- [04:52:38] Reencoding: VID_00299 (9 of 24)
- [04:52:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 11,478 frames
- [04:52:38] Reencoding: VID_00299, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:53:41] Video Encode complete
- [04:53:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:53:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:53:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00336]
- [04:54:07] Reencoding: VID_00336 (10 of 24)
- [04:54:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,208 frames
- [04:54:07] Reencoding: VID_00336, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:58:30] Video Encode complete
- [04:58:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:58:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:59:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00329]
- [04:59:44] Reencoding: VID_00329 (11 of 24)
- [04:59:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,251 frames
- [04:59:44] Reencoding: VID_00329, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:03:54] Video Encode complete
- [05:03:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:03:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:04:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00331]
- [05:04:29] Reencoding: VID_00331 (12 of 24)
- [05:04:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,990 frames
- [05:04:29] Reencoding: VID_00331, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:08:13] Video Encode complete
- [05:08:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:08:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:08:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00333]
- [05:09:17] Reencoding: VID_00333 (13 of 24)
- [05:09:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,831 frames
- [05:09:17] Reencoding: VID_00333, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:13:45] Video Encode complete
- [05:13:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:13:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:13:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
- [05:14:24] Reencoding: VID_00328 (14 of 24)
- [05:14:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 7,666 frames
- [05:14:25] Reencoding: VID_00328, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:19:12] Video Encode complete
- [05:19:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:19:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:19:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00327]
- [05:20:01] Reencoding: VID_00327 (15 of 24)
- [05:20:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 8,002 frames
- [05:20:01] Reencoding: VID_00327, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:24:57] Video Encode complete
- [05:24:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:24:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:25:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00335]
- [05:25:48] Reencoding: VID_00335 (16 of 24)
- [05:25:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 10,592 frames
- [05:25:48] Reencoding: VID_00335, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:32:53] Video Encode complete
- [05:32:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:32:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:33:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00334]
- [05:34:12] Reencoding: VID_00334 (17 of 24)
- [05:34:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 12,920 frames
- [05:34:12] Reencoding: VID_00334, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:42:11] Video Encode complete
- [05:42:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:42:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:42:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00330]
- [05:43:29] Reencoding: VID_00330 (18 of 24)
- [05:43:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 13,270 frames
- [05:43:29] Reencoding: VID_00330, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:51:45] Video Encode complete
- [05:51:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:51:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:52:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00297]
- [05:53:07] Reencoding: VID_00297 (19 of 24)
- [05:53:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,777 frames
- [05:53:07] Reencoding: VID_00297, Pass 1 of 1
- [05:59:18] Video Encode complete
- [05:59:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:59:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:59:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00326]
- [06:00:41] Reencoding: VID_00326 (20 of 24)
- [06:00:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 13,393 frames
- [06:00:41] Reencoding: VID_00326, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:09:15] Video Encode complete
- [06:09:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:09:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:09:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00332]
- [06:10:58] Reencoding: VID_00332 (21 of 24)
- [06:10:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 16,487 frames
- [06:10:58] Reencoding: VID_00332, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:21:15] Video Encode complete
- [06:21:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:21:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:22:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00325]
- [06:23:26] Reencoding: VID_00325 (22 of 24)
- [06:23:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 21,733 frames
- [06:23:26] Reencoding: VID_00325, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:37:37] Video Encode complete
- [06:37:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:37:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:38:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00324]
- [06:40:44] Reencoding: VID_00324 (23 of 24)
- [06:40:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 29,320 frames
- [06:40:44] Reencoding: VID_00324, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:57:46] Video Encode complete
- [06:57:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:57:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:59:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [07:24:45] Reencoding: VID_00074 (24 of 24)
- [07:24:45] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [07:36:46] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_03]
- [07:49:09] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_04]
- [08:01:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 154,439 frames
- Bitrate: 10,752 Kbs
- [08:01:07] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:02:50] Video Encode complete
- [10:02:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:02:51] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:10:25]PHASE ONE complete
[10:10:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:10:25] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:10:50] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:10:50] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- XMEN_WOLVERINE folder removed.
- WORKFILES folder removed.
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

[Status]
LABEL=XMEN_WOLVERINE
VERSION=v0.38.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=44089437883
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=43669886976
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.554661043806041
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=24
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00296]
AUDIO=10
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=36654700
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28429920
NSIZE=37152768
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00294]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=53966514
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28802880
NSIZE=82544640
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00298]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=1111100
M2TS_TARGET=77552157
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28952640
NSIZE=103483392
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00317]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=94437992
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30159360
NSIZE=54534144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00301]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=96060122

p.s I only ever use the programs from page 1.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Is your system overclocked? If so, that's probably the issue.

It may be possible that the upgraded versions recently added to the first post may be the cause. You might try reverting to the previously recommended HAALI (http://www.jdobbs.net/Freeware/MatroskaSplitter.exe) and see if that has an effect. If it does, please post and let me know.

If that doesn't do it, then try switching to the older FFDSHOW version (http://www.jdobbs.net/Freeware/ffdshow_rev3326_20100319_clsid.exe).

[MILLZY]

No my system is not over clocked JD, i have also tried the other versions of HAALI and FFDSHOW but the same outcome.
I will try your link for recommened HAALI and a previous FDSHOW. I will run a blu ray again that i know bombed out early and let you know soon as. It all started to go down the swanney once i had installed the new update of BD-REBUILDER and the new versions of HAALI and FFDSHOW from the first thread as you said.

Just tried again with previous versions. Failed video encode again!!!!
I think something has knackered my settings up that were previously fine. Any ideas mate, cause i dont know what else to do.

This is strange this, same encode as before with X264 LAVF enabled and the encode has not failed yet.

[Dirk Diggler]

Millzy did you physically removed the Haali folder after uninstalling it. Last time something similar happened to me was because the installer didnt clean up all the way and left some other stuff around that wasnt overwritten when the new or old version was installed again

[MILLZY]

Millzy did you physically removed the Haali folder after uninstalling it. Last time something similar happened to me was because the installer didnt clean up all the way and left some other stuff around that wasnt overwritten when the new or old version was installed again

Yes mate,i even checked the registry to make sure nothing was left. Very strange that the encode is still going once i enabled the X264 LAVF.
Its at 32 pecent now and still going. If i dont enable LAVF it fails :confused:

[jdobbs]

No my system is not over clocked JD, i have also tried the other versions of HAALI and FFDSHOW but the same outcome.
I will try your link for recommened HAALI and a previous FDSHOW. I will run a blu ray again that i know bombed out early and let you know soon as. It all started to go down the swanney once i had installed the new update of BD-REBUILDER and the new versions of HAALI and FFDSHOW from the first thread as you said.

Just tried again with previous versions. Failed video encode again!!!!
I think something has knackered my settings up that were previously fine. Any ideas mate, cause i dont know what else to do.

This is strange this, same encode as before with X264 LAVF enabled and the encode has not failed yet. That's because LAVF bypasses FFDSHOW, HAALI, and AVISYNTH. Which, of course, suggests that one of those three is likely the problem.

[MILLZY]

Replaced avisynth with an earlier version and it is still running at the moment with BD-REBUILDER at default settings.
looks like the newest version of avisynth didnt want to play nice with my system.
fingers crossed that was the problem. Will report back at a later date. :thanks:

[Capsbackup]

Replaced avisynth with an earlier version and it is still running at the moment with BD-REBUILDER at default settings.
looks like the newest version of avisynth didnt want to play nice with my system.
fingers crossed that was the problem. Will report back at a later date. :thanks:

I have been using Avisynth 2.58 for over a year and have never experienced any such problems. As jdobbs has said repeatedly, other software that gets installed can, without your knowledge, change the default decoder programs that work with BD-RB. So by just reinstalling Avisynth probably restored it to your previous state, and this would have been true for either 2.57 or 2.58. ;)

[MILLZY]

To be honest this is the first time i have ever encounted this problem. Will take your advice on board mate.
Something so trivial could cause this much trouble for me over the last few days.

[sonate]

J Dobbs, do you have any idea why this missed target size so badly and oversized several of the streams?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1509404#post1509404

[jdobbs]

J Dobbs, do you have any idea why this missed target size so badly and oversized several of the streams?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1509404#post1509404 No, sorry but I don't. All I can say is that I have done a couple thousand discs in testing -- and oversizing to any meaningful extent is pretty much non-existent on my test machines. Something has to be out-of-kilter on your system, probably CODEC related.

[wooper]

Hi How are you? well i have a problem recoding Death race movie, i dont know why, this is the log file

[16:10:06] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: DEATH_RACE_G52
- Input BD size: 31.65 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:50:35.670]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:10:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:10:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01211]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 85791
[16:19:29] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

it says that not enough buffer but how can i get more buffer?

[jdobbs]

That's a TSMUXER message. It's almost always a bad rip when you see that one. What did you use to rip it?

[sonate]

No, sorry but I don't. All I can say is that I have done a couple thousand discs in testing -- and oversizing to any meaningful extent is pretty much non-existent on my test machines. Something has to be out-of-kilter on your system, probably CODEC related.

Well I can't say I've done that many, maybe about 150 but the good news is that this is the only problematic one. As far as CODEC compatibility, the only codecs used are the ones contained in ffdshow. Is there any way to further test for conflicts?

What I was trying to tell you earlier is that when the main movie was cut from the streams, leaving everything else, there were no resizing issues. Likewise when the movie alone was recoded, there were no issues as well.

[jdobbs]

Well I can't say I've done that many, maybe about 150 but the good news is that this is the only problematic one. As far as CODEC compatibility, the only codecs used are the ones contained in ffdshow. Is there any way to further test for conflicts?

What I was trying to tell you earlier is that when the main movie was cut from the streams, leaving everything else, there were no resizing issues. Likewise when the movie alone was recoded, there were no issues as well.

I can tell you that the error message means that on that single M2TS it is impossible to hit the goal, because the selected audio and PGSs combined are already bigger than the target size.

[wooper]

That's a TSMUXER message. It's almost always a bad rip when you see that one. What did you use to rip it?

Hi Used dvdfab not a newer version, but it worked fine, mmm so do you think it is the rip? should i rip it again? which program do you recommend?

[Ch3vr0n]

Anydvd beats DVDCrap any time and day of the week/month/year and doesnt use stolen code

[Capsbackup]

Hi Used dvdfab not a newer version, but it worked fine, mmm so do you think it is the rip? should i rip it again? which program do you recommend?

Anydvd HD! ;)
(As Ch3vr0n just said! :p)

[HWK]

Hi Used dvdfab not a newer version, but it worked fine, mmm so do you think it is the rip? should i rip it again? which program do you recommend?

Anydvd beats DVDCrap any time and day of the week/month/year and doesnt use stolen code

This is not the first time where dvdfab has failed. There were two or three separate instace where fab output was not good one and caused these kind of problem to happen as well and anydvd worked just fine. Which remind me Jdobbs also use AnyDVD to do his rips.

[sonate]

I can tell you that the error message means that on that single M2TS it is impossible to hit the goal, because the selected audio and PGSs combined are already bigger than the target size.

Yes, I figured that, after 4 M2ts were oversized, there was no room left for the main title.

[jdobbs]

Hi Used dvdfab not a newer version, but it worked fine, mmm so do you think it is the rip? should i rip it again? which program do you recommend? I'd rip it with AnyDVD HD. It's by far the best ripper available. JMHO.

[jdobbs]

Yes, I figured that, after 4 M2ts were oversized, there was no room left for the main title. You need to listen to what I said, not what want me to have said.

That error messge has nothing to do with the other 4 M2TS files. It won't fit because the audio/PGSs of that MT2S are larger than the output target for that M2TS. You probably decided to keep HD audio -- and HD audio just uses too much space (especially for the nonexistent benefit it provides).

[nozuul]

Anyone know what would cause a subtitle not to be converted?

Most of the time I do not pay attention, so I can't check past log files, but will in the future. With foreign films, I like to keep the original language audio and read the subtitles, can't stand voice-overs most of the time.

This happened with The Man from Nowhere, Region A.

Here is the log, tried it twice.

Thanks for any help!

-----------------------
[12:37:44] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: THE_MAN_FROM_NOWHERE
- Input BD size: 20.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:59:19.569]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-9, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:37:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:37:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12:45:26] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [12:45:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 171,658 frames
- Bitrate: 8,776 Kbs
- [12:45:26] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [14:32:26] Video Encode complete
- [14:32:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:32:55] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:32:55]PHASE ONE complete
[14:32:55]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:32:55] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
- [14:32:55] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [14:36:37] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- Unable to convert subtitle: 4608, ignored.
- [14:36:37] Starting MPLEX.
- [14:40:26] Building DVD File Structure.
[14:44:40] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[14:44:40]JOB: THE_MAN_FROM_NOWHERE finished.

[jdobbs]

Sometimes it might happen when it is not actually a subtitle, but instead is a pop-up graphic image. But that is very rare and the image would have to be huge.

That error occurs when BD-RB's internal subroutine (that converts subtitles from BD to DVD) fails.

I'll see if I can pick up that film and give it a try.

[geeky]

Hi...I've used BD Rebuilder in the past and have downloaded the latest beta version.....I keep getting error msg saying Haali spliter isn't the recommended version....I have uninstalled Haali splitter many times and reinstalled it but same problem. When uninstalling it the programs folder is deleted as well. I'm running XP Pro 32bit. Everything else that's needed to run BD Rebuilder is fine. I'm frustrated because other older versions worked. I'd appreciate any assistance. Thanks in advance!

[sonate]

You need to listen to what I said, not what want me to have said.

That error messge has nothing to do with the other 4 M2TS files. It won't fit because the audio/PGSs of that MT2S are larger than the output target for that M2TS. You probably decided to keep HD audio -- and HD audio just uses too much space (especially for the nonexistent benefit it provides).

I am aware about the error message.

Shouldn't keep HD audio when compressing to a 25 gb Blu-ray????

[jdobbs]

I am aware about the error message.

Shouldn't keep HD audio when compressing to a 25 gb Blu-ray????HD audio is a gimmick, and is indistinguishable from AC3 @640Kbs in double-blind tests. It's a digital-age equivalent to snake oil in my not-so-humble opinion. So what's the point?

Sure you can keep HD on some sources (although there is no reason to do so) -- but on others it is just way too large, especially when you are keeping multiple audio tracks. Suppose you have 5 tracks of DTS HD that each uses 5GB of space for audio. How much space do you calculate is left over for the video on a 25GB BD disc?

[jdobbs]

Hi...I've used BD Rebuilder in the past and have downloaded the latest beta version.....I keep getting error msg saying Haali spliter isn't the recommended version....I have uninstalled Haali splitter many times and reinstalled it but same problem. When uninstalling it the programs folder is deleted as well. I'm running XP Pro 32bit. Everything else that's needed to run BD Rebuilder is fine. I'm frustrated because other older versions worked. I'd appreciate any assistance. Thanks in advance! Don't worry about it. That is caused by a mistake in my HAALI checking code.

[sonate]

HD audio is a gimmick, and is indistinguishable from AC3 @640Kbs in double-blind tests. It's a digital-age equivalent to snake oil in my not-so-humble opinion. So what's the point?

Sure you can keep HD on some sources (although there is no reason to do so) -- but on others it is just way too large, especially when you are keeping multiple audio tracks. Suppose you have 5 tracks of DTS HD that each uses 5GB of space for audio. How much space do you calculate is left over for the video on a 25GB BD disc?

Understood, and I am very aware of that. But in this case there was one DTS HD selected. Particularly in the case of a monaural soundtrack, there is a striking difference between a compressed and uncompressed copy if that copy was made from a high dynamic range original. Needless to say higher sampling rates usually tend to preserve ambient phase material as well as resolve details as separate resulting in imaging and accurate soundstaging which lower sampling rates can only represent as inter modulation composites. When you say snake oil, I would have to agree with you that 99% of the times modern movie production incorporates audio which is well beneath the headroom high sampling rates provide.

BTW, I have about 15 years of audio engineering experience under my belt manifested during the analog era. I am a classical pianist who performs regularly. I have ears too. If you want to have a discussion about the merits of various recording or mastering schemes, I would be happy to tell you my experiences. Just tell me where, as I don't want to further degrade your bug report thread, even if you brought the issue up.

[jdobbs]

Understood, and I am very aware of that. But in this case there was one DTS HD selected. Particularly in the case of a monaural soundtrack, there is a striking difference between a compressed and uncompressed copy if that copy was made from a high dynamic range original. Needless to say higher sampling rates usually tend to preserve ambient phase material as well as resolve details as separate resulting in imaging and accurate soundstaging which lower sampling rates can only represent as inter modulation composites. When you say snake oil, I would have to agree with you that 99% of the times modern movie production incorporates audio which is well beneath the headroom high sampling rates provide.

BTW, I have about 15 years of audio engineering experience under my belt manifested during the analog era. I am a classical pianist who performs regularly. I have ears too. If you want to have a discussion about the merits of various recording or mastering schemes, I would be happy to tell you my experiences. Just tell me where, as I don't want to further degrade your bug report thread, even if you brought the issue up. I'm also an engineer, and an pianist too (I also play several other instruments, not that it matters). I've heard every argument. Everyone thinks he/she can tell the difference, but they all fail to identify the HD track in double-blind tests. In scientific terms that is a slam dunk. I can't explain the human psychological belief that something can be heard when it isn't there -- I don't think anyone can -- but I can understand open-and-shut fact based upon the scientific method.

As an engineer, you should also know that in 99% of all cases the sampling rate is the same whether it is compressed or not. But, of course, that's another argument, because tests also show that no one (human anyway) can tell the difference between 48Khz and 96Khz samples... it definitely is noticable when you get less than 48Khz, but not at that rate or higher. All BD tracks are at or above 48Khz. It is noted, however, that (as you said) the track being digitized typically isn't of a level of quality that it matters anyway.

Most importantly (at least for this thread) I can tell you that in the referenced M2TS the audio alone was bigger than the target. It makes no difference if it was one, two, or ninety tracks. You can't get that warning message unless it is true.

[nozuul]

Sometimes it might happen when it is not actually a subtitle, but instead is a pop-up graphic image. But that is very rare and the image would have to be huge.

That error occurs when BD-RB's internal subroutine (that converts subtitles from BD to DVD) fails.

I'll see if I can pick up that film and give it a try.

I'd sure appreciate it! Thanks for all the hard work on this program.

[sonate]

I'm also an engineer, and an pianist too (I also play several other instruments, not that it matters). I've heard every argument. Everyone thinks he/she can tell the difference, but they all fail to identify the HD track in double-blind tests. In scientific terms that is a slam dunk.



Well, I suggest you get any cd version of a mercury living presence or RCA red seal and the same selection on SACD, and give a listen on not just a mediocre system but a quality one. And while you are at it find one of those obsolete vinyl LP's if you have access to a high quality turntable, cartridge and head amp. You may be shocked.

This should answer any question as to how sensitive the human ear is to sampling rates and the ambient details they can reveal.

When recording a very dynamic instrument like a Steinway B, there are major differences when I record using a 192khz sample and create DVD audio files as opposed to CD format which sounds flat. And in terms of playback, on a ribbon /transmission line transducers powered by pure class a , the usual response from the double blind tests I myself conducted, the DVD audio has an element of tangibility, a physical spacial presence of a live piano absent in the CD. For instance the repetitive chord motiff in Davidsbundler of Schumann's Carnival you can discern every vertical note in a fortissimo rhythmic accentuated pattern on the DVD. It is clogged up on the CD. The voices in the Scherzo in Schubert's D960 sonata can be listened to as if a string quartet was playing in terms of clarity and tone, a CD lacks the openness. Not that the DVD sounds like the live instrument but it is a lot closer than the CD.

You can also see the difference side by side on a spectrum analyzer. DVD has less a problem with any complex composite waveform consisting of the full range of upper harmonics when a hammer strikes a piano string forcefully. .

Again, none of this makes much difference in movie soundtracks or overly processed sound, but since you say the ear couldn't possibly tell the difference, I'm wondering how you can explain that the ear can hear the difference between a CD of a live performance and an actual live performance?

Most importantly (at least for this thread) I can tell you that in the referenced M2TS the audio alone was bigger than the target. It makes no difference if it was one, two, or ninety tracks. You can't get that warning message unless it is true.

I do understand, but my theory is that if 4 of the streams were not oversized by BD reb, when it came to re-encode the video of the main selection and remux it with the DTS soundtrack, the target size would have easily accommodated it.

Can I make a suggestion, pick up a copy of "Army of Shadows" on the Criterion label. You will enjoy watching it, a wonderful directive on the French Resistance and a lesson in moral equivalences.

Nice talking to a fellow musician.... Greg

[Dark Shikari]

Well, I suggest you get any cd version of a mercury living presence or RCA red seal and the same selection on SACD, and give a listen on not just a mediocre system but a quality one.This has nothing to do with the SACD itself. SACDs are typically mastered much better than normal CDs because they're marketed to audiophiles. This means no Loudness war (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ)-style dynamic range reduction, for example.

If you convert "HD" audio like an SACD down to regular 44.1khz/16-bit, it's going to be indistinguishable from the original audio. However, nevertheless, it will often still be better than a typical CD.

[jdobbs]

@sonate

If a human ear was anything even remotely similar to a spectrum analyzer, you might get me to agree. Bit it doesn't work that way. In fact it doesn't work anything even remotely that way. Compression algorithms are expressly designed and tuned to take advantage of the psycho-acoustical limitations of human hearing . A machine can also be made to see microwaves -- that doesn't mean my eyes will ever see them. Anyway, this is one of those arguments in which your opinion, I'm sure, will never be changed -- so let's get back to the purpose of this thread.

I do understand, but my theory is that if 4 of the streams were not oversized by BD reb, when it came to re-encode the video of the main selection and remux it with the DTS soundtrack, the target size would have easily accommodated it. I appreciate your persistence, but I wrote the code and as a result I'm pretty sure I know a little more about how it works than you, and, as I said, it doesn't work that way.

[sonate]

This has nothing to do with the SACD itself. SACDs are typically mastered much better than normal CDs because they're marketed to audiophiles. This means no Loudness war-style dynamic range reduction, for example.

Not wanting this to develop further life of its own, I will make this my last comment on the topic.

The reason I said Mercury Living Presence is because they are have always used minimalist processing and have maintained that standard regardless of medium.

Taking audiophile pressings on LP and 16ips tape masters from previous recordings, using reference playback equipment, you would first have to agree that these have a level of clarity and imaging well beyond the capability of cd format.Dynamics are not too far off either.

Taking either of these sources and creating digital versions in both CD and DVD audio straight 2 channel stereo with no mixing or signal processing either analog or digital using the same inputs on the same sound card, the DVD audio preserves far more of the originals sound stage and imaging capabilities as well as the openness of the sound. Now if you are telling me that if I re sample the DVD to CD specs it will sound identical, that has not been the case.

[sonate]

I appreciate your persistence, but I wrote the code and as a result I'm pretty sure I know a little more about how it works than you, and, as I said, it doesn't work that way.

I agree, you know what you coded, I don't. If I did I wouldn't be asking the dumb questions. But I wasn't really too concerned about the error message. Is there any light you can shed on the oversizing of previous M2ts. And this is the last time I'll mention this, would you please compare the top original to the bottom compressed image in terms of before and after. The only HD audio in the whole movie was in 00274.m2ts should be about 15gb after compression. All the others were AC3. What could have happened in 00230m2ts which is almost double the size?


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[buffalofloyd]

I have similar problem as illuminatori a few posts ago with Inspect on a new Windows 7 machine.
It checks AVISYNTH version which is ok then it pops up the error:

Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch

The next item to check would have been Matroska splitter.
The size of my Matroska splitter folder is 5,298,204.
The size on disk is 5,341,184.
This is the version I downloaded using the link on the first page of this thread.

Is this error also related to the bug in 0.39.04 that you mentioned?

I have this exact same error as you when I try to run the inspect.exe

I am using all the recommended downloads from the first post. I am also running Windows 7 Ultimate - Core I7 920.

I have done 1 successful encode so far and I will be trying more.

Thanks a lot jdobbs for creating such a useful program :thanks:

[geeky]

Don't worry about it. That is caused by a mistake in my HAALI checking code.

:) Thanks for responding. Apparently the problem is with VC-1 codec....how do I get around this issue....I get a error msg saying no decompressor when I try to view the video in preview within BD Rebuilder....a friend of mine said it has to do with VC-1 codec. I'd appreciate any assistance. Thanks in advance! :)

[Ch3vr0n]

Is your system setup to decode VC-1 properly. whats the output of Inspect.exe

[jdobbs]

:) Thanks for responding. Apparently the problem is with VC-1 codec....how do I get around this issue....I get a error msg saying no decompressor when I try to view the video in preview within BD Rebuilder....a friend of mine said it has to do with VC-1 codec. I'd appreciate any assistance. Thanks in advance! :)

Have you followed the instructions in the first post of this thread exactly? If so, VC-1 would be handled by FFDSHOW.

You may want to try setting "Raw Video" to "All Supported" in FFDSHOW. That might be the reason you're getting the playback problem.

[b_gla]

I've had a problem with the current build. On two different (noncontigious) rebuilds, I get the following in the log.
...
[02:12:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:12:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00126]
- [02:48:35] Reencoding: VID_00126 (36 of 36)
- [02:48:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]

at this point it stops. No error. No disc space issue. On both occasions the rebuild stops or freezes (although the app isn't frozen) at this point. This is over 12 hours into the rebuild. Current progress read 100% in each case but the overall progress was 28.79% on one and 31.22% on the other. I'd tried in both cases to delete everything and rebuild from scratch, as well as recopying the master BD discs. Each time, this is the result with the stop point in the exact same place.

My settings (which haven't changed for several successful builds) are:
Target size BD-25
High Priority
Highest (Quality)
One Pass (CRF)

[jdobbs]

I've had a problem with the current build. On two different (noncontigious) rebuilds, I get the following in the log.
...
[02:12:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:12:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00126]
- [02:48:35] Reencoding: VID_00126 (36 of 36)
- [02:48:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]

at this point it stops. No error. No disc space issue. On both occasions the rebuild stops or freezes (although the app isn't frozen) at this point. This is over 12 hours into the rebuild. Current progress read 100% in each case but the overall progress was 28.79% on one and 31.22% on the other. I'd tried in both cases to delete everything and rebuild from scratch, as well as recopying the master BD discs. Each time, this is the result with the stop point in the exact same place.

My settings (which haven't changed for several successful builds) are:
Target size BD-25
High Priority
Highest (Quality)
One Pass (CRF) Please post the entire log (in a CODE block, shown as "#" in the tools section when you're composing a reply). Portions don't help -- as it tells me very little. I don't even know what disc you're trying to encode. Also please post the results of running INSPECT.EXE.

[b_gla]

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[16:11:59] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: BATTLE_LA
- Input BD size: 41.85 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:52:52.748]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), CRF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[16:11:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:11:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [16:12:00] Reencoding: VID_00021 (1 of 36)
- [16:12:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [16:12:00] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:12:04] Video Encode complete
- [16:12:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:12:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:12:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [16:12:05] Reencoding: VID_00022 (2 of 36)
- [16:12:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 72 frames
- [16:12:05] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:12:08] Video Encode complete
- [16:12:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:12:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:12:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00127]
- [16:12:09] Reencoding: VID_00127 (3 of 36)
- [16:12:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 165 frames
- [16:12:09] Reencoding: VID_00127, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:12:14] Video Encode complete
- [16:12:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:12:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:12:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [16:12:23] Reencoding: VID_00101 (4 of 36)
- [16:12:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- [16:12:23] Reencoding: VID_00101, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:13:01] Video Encode complete
- [16:13:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:13:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:13:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [16:13:11] Reencoding: VID_00104 (5 of 36)
- [16:13:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,012 frames
- [16:13:11] Reencoding: VID_00104, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:13:49] Video Encode complete
- [16:13:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:13:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:13:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00129]
- [16:13:59] Reencoding: VID_00129 (6 of 36)
- [16:14:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,330 frames
- [16:14:00] Reencoding: VID_00129, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:14:49] Video Encode complete
- [16:14:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:14:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:14:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00116]
- [16:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00116 (7 of 36)
- [16:15:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,883 frames
- [16:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00116, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:16:25] Video Encode complete
- [16:16:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:16:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:16:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00136]
- [16:16:39] Reencoding: VID_00136 (8 of 36)
- [16:16:39] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [16:16:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 856 frames
- [16:16:43] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 11.00 30.50 22.59 19.20 18.10 [17.87]
- [16:18:11] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [16:24:00] Video Encode complete
- [16:24:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:24:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:24:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00137]
- [16:24:13] Reencoding: VID_00137 (9 of 36)
- [16:24:13] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [16:24:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 856 frames
- [16:24:17] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 11.00 30.50 22.69 19.28 18.13 [17.87]
- [16:25:45] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [16:31:35] Video Encode complete
- [16:31:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:31:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:31:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00125]
- [16:31:48] Reencoding: VID_00125 (10 of 36)
- [16:31:48] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [16:31:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 856 frames
- [16:31:52] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 11.00 30.50 22.57 19.17 18.08 [17.86]
- [16:33:17] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [16:39:09] Video Encode complete
- [16:39:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:39:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:39:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00131]
- [16:39:23] Reencoding: VID_00131 (11 of 36)
- [16:39:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,691 frames
- [16:39:23] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:40:23] Video Encode complete
- [16:40:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:40:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:40:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00128]
- [16:40:38] Reencoding: VID_00128 (12 of 36)
- [16:40:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,451 frames
- [16:40:38] Reencoding: VID_00128, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:41:28] Video Encode complete
- [16:41:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:41:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:41:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00117]
- [16:41:41] Reencoding: VID_00117 (13 of 36)
- [16:41:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,351 frames
- [16:41:41] Reencoding: VID_00117, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:43:39] Video Encode complete
- [16:43:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:43:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:43:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00121]
- [16:43:57] Reencoding: VID_00121 (14 of 36)
- [16:43:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,531 frames
- [16:43:57] Reencoding: VID_00121, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:45:50] Video Encode complete
- [16:45:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:45:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:45:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00122]
- [16:46:10] Reencoding: VID_00122 (15 of 36)
- [16:46:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,705 frames
- [16:46:10] Reencoding: VID_00122, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:48:24] Video Encode complete
- [16:48:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:48:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:48:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00115]
- [16:48:45] Reencoding: VID_00115 (16 of 36)
- [16:48:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,919 frames
- [16:48:45] Reencoding: VID_00115, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:51:17] Video Encode complete
- [16:51:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:51:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:51:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00132]
- [16:51:46] Reencoding: VID_00132 (17 of 36)
- [16:51:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,549 frames
- [16:51:46] Reencoding: VID_00132, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:53:13] Video Encode complete
- [16:53:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:53:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:53:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00120]
- [16:53:33] Reencoding: VID_00120 (18 of 36)
- [16:53:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,016 frames
- [16:53:33] Reencoding: VID_00120, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:55:46] Video Encode complete
- [16:55:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:55:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:55:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00133]
- [16:56:09] Reencoding: VID_00133 (19 of 36)
- [16:56:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,610 frames
- [16:56:09] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:57:53] Video Encode complete
- [16:57:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:57:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:57:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00119]
- [16:58:16] Reencoding: VID_00119 (20 of 36)
- [16:58:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,419 frames
- [16:58:16] Reencoding: VID_00119, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:00:35] Video Encode complete
- [17:00:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:00:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:00:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00118]
- [17:01:07] Reencoding: VID_00118 (21 of 36)
- [17:01:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,625 frames
- [17:01:07] Reencoding: VID_00118, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:04:10] Video Encode complete
- [17:04:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:04:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:04:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [17:05:05] Reencoding: VID_00081 (22 of 36)
- [17:05:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,887 frames
- [17:05:05] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:08:59] Video Encode complete
- [17:08:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:08:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:09:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
- [17:09:35] Reencoding: VID_00130 (23 of 36)
- [17:09:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,549 frames
- [17:09:35] Reencoding: VID_00130, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:11:39] Video Encode complete
- [17:11:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:11:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:11:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00135]
- [17:12:06] Reencoding: VID_00135 (24 of 36)
- [17:12:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,604 frames
- [17:12:06] Reencoding: VID_00135, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:14:17] Video Encode complete
- [17:14:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:14:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:14:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00134]
- [17:14:49] Reencoding: VID_00134 (25 of 36)
- [17:14:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,797 frames
- [17:14:49] Reencoding: VID_00134, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:17:09] Video Encode complete
- [17:17:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:17:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:17:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00114]
- [17:17:37] Reencoding: VID_00114 (26 of 36)
- [17:17:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,437 frames
- [17:17:37] Reencoding: VID_00114, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:21:27] Video Encode complete
- [17:21:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:21:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:21:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00124]
- [17:22:07] Reencoding: VID_00124 (27 of 36)
- [17:22:07] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [17:22:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,182 frames
- [17:22:14] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 11.00 10.50 [10.65]
- [17:22:41] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [17:38:10] Video Encode complete
- [17:38:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:38:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:38:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [17:38:43] Reencoding: VID_00123 (28 of 36)
- [17:38:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,172 frames
- [17:38:43] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:42:18] Video Encode complete
- [17:42:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:42:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:42:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00110]
- [17:42:59] Reencoding: VID_00110 (29 of 36)
- [17:42:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,558 frames
- [17:42:59] Reencoding: VID_00110, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:49:32] Video Encode complete
- [17:49:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:49:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:49:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00113]
- [17:50:27] Reencoding: VID_00113 (30 of 36)
- [17:50:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,633 frames
- [17:50:27] Reencoding: VID_00113, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:57:01] Video Encode complete
- [17:57:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:57:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:57:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00112]
- [17:58:09] Reencoding: VID_00112 (31 of 36)
- [17:58:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,314 frames
- [17:58:09] Reencoding: VID_00112, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:05:22] Video Encode complete
- [18:05:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:05:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:05:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- [18:06:41] Reencoding: VID_00108 (32 of 36)
- [18:06:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,437 frames
- [18:06:41] Reencoding: VID_00108, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:14:31] Video Encode complete
- [18:14:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:14:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:15:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00107]
- [18:15:58] Reencoding: VID_00107 (33 of 36)
- [18:15:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,694 frames
- [18:15:58] Reencoding: VID_00107, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:24:15] Video Encode complete
- [18:24:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:24:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:24:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00111]
- [18:25:54] Reencoding: VID_00111 (34 of 36)
- [18:25:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,838 frames
- [18:25:54] Reencoding: VID_00111, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:38:49] Video Encode complete
- [18:38:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:38:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:40:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00109]
- [18:42:44] Reencoding: VID_00109 (35 of 36)
- [18:42:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 25,840 frames
- [18:42:44] Reencoding: VID_00109, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:04:17] Video Encode complete
- [19:04:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:04:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:06:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00126]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[19:33:49] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[02:12:54] BD Rebuilder v0.38.03 (beta)
- Source: BATTLE_LA
- Input BD size: 41.85 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:52:52.748]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), CRF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
- Resuming from previously started job.
[02:12:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:12:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00126]
- [02:48:35] Reencoding: VID_00126 (36 of 36)
- [02:48:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]


The "failed to retrieve audio, aborted"
was a disc space issue that was rectified and the process was restarted. This disc was Battle Los Angeles. The previous BD disc where this happened was "Megamind" (though there was no disc space issue with that disc.) I don't have the log results for that disc anymore.

The inspect results are below:

- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3065, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.3, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[jdobbs]

I don't know how yiou can expect it to work when you have completely ignored the installation instructions in the first post of this thread (and in the README file included in the zip):
In order to make this beta version work, you have to first install some other packages. I highly recommend you use ONLY the versions linked below, as sometimes new version changes can cause unexpected issues.

- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3065, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.3, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[b_gla]

I hadn't done this since the last 40+ rebuilds worked perfectly well. Since you indicated it though, I have followed those instructions.
I've now downloaded the FFDSHOW from the link on the first page as you indicated and the HAALI Splitter also from the link on the first page. I made the changes to MPEG2 and Audio as suggested as well.
Here is the new INSPECT report:

- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3882, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.3, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok


Since the report says:
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3882, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok

I'm not sure what the recommended version is since I simply used the link on the first page as you suggested.
MatroskaSplitter03032011_(1.11.96.14).exe
ffdshow_rev3882_20110613_clsid.exe
As for the VC-1 setting, I chose wmv9 since the libavcodec gave me and error [1] instead of the previous [0].

Are there different links I should use or is it acceptable as is?

[JJB]

Update to the current version of BD Rebuilder from the fist page.

CURRENT VERSION 0.38.04 (June 20th, 2011)

[sonate]

When using auto settings, and BD RB chooses Auto Quality: "High Quality (Default), Two Pass"

Is there anyway to tell which particular a/v stream actually received the 2nd pass by looking at a log, ini, or inf log after the process completed?

[jdobbs]

When using auto settings, and BD RB chooses Auto Quality: "High Quality (Default), Two Pass"

Is there anyway to tell which particular a/v stream actually received the 2nd pass by looking at a log, ini, or inf log after the process completed? You'll see something like this in the log:

- [15:03:11] Reencoding: VID_00310, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:03:53] Reencoding: VID_00310, Pass 2 of 2

[sonate]

You'll see something like this in the log:

- [15:03:11] Reencoding: VID_00310, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:03:53] Reencoding: VID_00310, Pass 2 of 2

You would see that only if you chose the verbose status reporting
option?

[jdobbs]

You would see that only if you chose the verbose status reporting
option? Verbose is the default. Why would you turn it off?

I guess I need to remove that as an option...

[sonate]

Verbose is the default. Why would you turn it off?

I guess I need to remove that as an option...

Inadvertently.......

Now see, I can actually be useful!

[sonate]

If anyone has made a full disc backup of this, can you compare the original mt2s to the ones resulting from the compression to see if any over-sizing occurs during re encoding using the automatic quality settings.

For instance 00120.m2ts is about 2,128,818 kilobytes in the original but may be over 4,000,000 after it is undergoes re encoding.

Thank you much.

[had-z]

this issue seems not properly fixed...

i do a backup of the dark knight (high speed option) and when the partial playback of M2TS is referred (in the special feature "play movie with focus points") i obtain a black screen when the enter button is pressed in some points. In other scenes the scene of the referenced M2TS is played correctly but when is supossed to return to the movie the screen remains black for a few minutes before resume the movie playback.

Tested with TMT5.

Cheers Jdobbs.

Hi finally i have a little time to test again this issue with a burned BD-RE in the PS3, as i spected the PS3 shows the same problem.

Jdobbs can you please do a backup of TDK with the actual BD-Rebuilder build? and confirm if that special feature is showed correctly?

Cheers

[jdobbs]

If anyone has made a full disc backup of this, can you compare the original mt2s to the ones resulting from the compression to see if any over-sizing occurs during re encoding using the automatic quality settings.

For instance 00120.m2ts is about 2,128,818 bytes in the original but may be over 4,000,000 after it is undergoes re encoding.

Thank you much. You're talking about a couple of megabytes -- that's not really something to be concerned about. On a 25GB disc that would make the overall size be off by .007%. My guess would be that you have "Quicker Encode for Extras" selected. The setting encodes extras with a fixed CRF value. That could very easily make the output bigger (although it is rare).

[jdobbs]

Hi finally i have a little time to test again this issue with a burned BD-RE in the PS3, as i spected the PS3 shows the same problem.

Jdobbs can you please do a backup of TDK with the actual BD-Rebuilder build? and confirm if that special feature is showed correctly?

Cheers I'll test it.

[jdobbs]

Anyone know what would cause a subtitle not to be converted?

Most of the time I do not pay attention, so I can't check past log files, but will in the future. With foreign films, I like to keep the original language audio and read the subtitles, can't stand voice-overs most of the time.

This happened with The Man from Nowhere, Region A.

Here is the log, tried it twice.

Thanks for any help! Just wanted to let you know that I finally tried this one. I repeated the problem -- and found the bug. It'll be fixed for the next release.

[sonate]

You're talking about a couple of megabytes -- that's not really something to be concerned about. On a 25GB disc that would make the overall size be off by .007%. My guess would be that you have "Quicker Encode for Extras" selected. The setting encodes extras with a fixed CRF value. That could very easily make the output bigger (although it is rare).

Those are exactly the settings I have been using. And I'm terribly sorry, but instead of bytes I meant kilobytes and edited the previous post to reflect that change. The oversize is quite substantial Results in another case resulted in an original stream which was slightly under 4 gigabytes to end up over 6.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1509509#post1509509

It's reasonable that the CRF setting would result in a less accurate achieving of the target. Others may want to be aware of this when using this setting especially when the disc is authored with many hours of extra features, which I suppose the faster encode is the main the reason they would want to use it in the first place.

[jdobbs]

Those are exactly the settings I have been using. And I'm terribly sorry, but instead of bytes I meant kilobytes and edited the previous post to reflect that change. The oversize is quite substantial Results in another case resulted in an original stream which was slightly under 4 gigabytes to end up over 6.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1509509#post1509509

It's reasonable that the CRF setting would result in a less accurate achieving of the target. Others may want to be aware of this when using this setting especially when the disc is authored with many hours of extra features, which I suppose the faster encode is the main the reason they would want to use it in the first place. So you're saying you have an "Extra" that is over 4GB in length? That's kinda' too big to be an extra. I just went throught about 15 discs that I happen to have on my hard drive. I couldn't find a single disc with an extra anywhere near that big. I guess it's not unheard of, though. Have you changed the default CRF value for quicker?

It shouldn't make your overall encode (disc) oversize, though. The bitrate for the feature is adjusted for the actual output sizes of the extras. But I would still recommend keeping it off when you are doing a disc with "many hours of extras" or if it is a series disc -- I've made that point many times throughout this thread.

Just turn "Quicker Encode for Extras" off.

[sonate]

So you're saying you have an "Extra" that is over 4GB in length? That's kinda' too big to be an extra. I just went throught about 15 discs that I happen to have on my hard drive. I couldn't find a single disc with an extra anywhere near that big. I guess it's not unheard of, though. Have you changed the default CRF value for quicker?

It shouldn't make your overall encode (disc) oversize, though. The bitrate for the feature is adjusted for the actual output sizes of the extras. But I would still recommend keeping it off when you are doing a disc with "many hours of extras" or if it is a series disc -- I've made that point many times throughout this thread.

Just turn "Quicker Encode for Extras" off.

These were the only two with "extras" approaching 4 , probably more like 3.5 gb. A lot of historical documentary stuff with "wizard of oz" and the french resistance movie as well.

I haven't consciously changed the default CRF for quicker. Is the default for CRF a hidden toggle in the INI?

Present settings are
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=1

And yes, I will turn off the quicker option when I see huge amounts of extras. It works very satisfactorily on everything else.

[jdobbs]

These were the only two with "extras" approaching 4 , probably more like 3.5 gb. A lot of historical documentary stuff with "wizard of oz" and the french resistance movie as well.

I haven't consciously changed the default CRF for quicker. Is the default for CRF a hidden toggle in the INI?

Present settings are
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=1

And yes, I will turn off the quicker option when I see huge amounts of extras. It works very satisfactorily on everything else. There are a couple of hidden options related to "Quick Encoding for Extras":

QUICK_CRF=n
n = 10..50 -- CRF value for "Quick Extras" encoding, defaults are BD5=30,BD9=24,BD25=20

QUICK_USE_QUALITY=n
n = 0/1 - if set to 1, BD-RB will use the current quality selection for CRF encodes

[sonate]

There are a couple of hidden options related to "Quick Encoding for Extras":

QUICK_CRF=n
n = 10..50 -- CRF value for "Quick Extras" encoding, defaults are BD5=30,BD9=24,BD25=20

QUICK_USE_QUALITY=n
n = 0/1 - if set to 1, BD-RB will use the current quality selection for CRF encodes

If I add
QUICK_USE_QUALITY=0 does it turn off the quicker encode for extras feature or change it from CRF to ABR?

[jdobbs]

If I add
QUICK_USE_QUALITY=0 does it turn off the quicker encode for extras feature or change it from CRF to ABR? Neither. It leaves it at CRF, but if set to 1 it uses the quality mode selected by Automatic (Fast, High Quality, etc.).

You turn "Quicker Encode for Extras" off/or on from the menu. It isn't a hidden option.

[K4rm4d0n]

Hello. First of all BIG THANKS for this awesome soft and here is my problem:
I'm trying to reauthor BATMAN_BEGINS_2005_BLU-RAY_1080P_CEE_VC-1_TRUEHD_5.1 and at the end I always get corrupted audio tracks except the TrueHD one... the rest are mixed together. Here is a log and inf, where should be everything fine...


-----------------------
[18:38:27] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: BATMAN_BEGINS_2005_BLU-RAY_1080P_CEE_VC-1_TRUEHD_5.1
- Input BD size: 34,44 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:07:29.288]
- Target BD size: 48,83 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:38:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:38:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [18:38:39] Reencoding: VID_00016 (1 of 13)
- [18:38:39] Collecting video information
- [18:38:39] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:38:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:38:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:38:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [18:38:51] Reencoding: VID_00014 (2 of 13)
- [18:38:51] Collecting video information
- [18:38:51] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:38:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:38:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:39:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [18:39:26] Reencoding: VID_00017 (3 of 13)
- [18:39:26] Collecting video information
- [18:39:26] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:39:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:39:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:39:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [18:40:08] Reencoding: VID_00023 (4 of 13)
- [18:40:09] Collecting video information
- [18:40:09] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:40:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:40:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:40:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [18:41:13] Reencoding: VID_00022 (5 of 13)
- [18:41:13] Collecting video information
- [18:41:13] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:41:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:41:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:41:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [18:42:25] Reencoding: VID_00021 (6 of 13)
- [18:42:25] Collecting video information
- [18:42:25] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:42:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:42:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:42:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [18:43:37] Reencoding: VID_00025 (7 of 13)
- [18:43:37] Collecting video information
- [18:43:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:43:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:43:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:43:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [18:44:50] Reencoding: VID_00024 (8 of 13)
- [18:44:51] Collecting video information
- [18:44:51] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:44:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:44:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:45:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [18:46:06] Reencoding: VID_00027 (9 of 13)
- [18:46:07] Collecting video information
- [18:46:07] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:46:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:46:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:46:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [18:47:27] Reencoding: VID_00026 (10 of 13)
- [18:47:27] Collecting video information
- [18:47:27] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:47:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:47:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:47:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [18:48:53] Reencoding: VID_00018 (11 of 13)
- [18:48:53] Collecting video information
- [18:48:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:48:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:48:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:49:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00121]
- [18:49:59] Reencoding: VID_00121 (12 of 13)
- [18:49:59] Collecting video information
- [18:49:59] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:49:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:49:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:51:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [19:03:27] Reencoding: VID_00000 (13 of 13)
- [19:03:27] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [19:18:18] Collecting video information
- [19:18:18] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [19:18:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:18:18] Multiplexing M2TS
[19:42:18]PHASE ONE complete
[19:42:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:42:18] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[19:45:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[19:45:48]JOB: BATMAN_BEGINS_2005_BLU-RAY_1080P_CEE_VC-1_TRUEHD_5.1 finished.



[Status]
LABEL=BATMAN_BEGINS_2005_BLU-RAY_1080P_CEE_VC-1_TRUEHD_5.1
VERSION=v0.38.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=36974973397
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=32828577792
TARGET_SIZE=52428800000
REDUCTION=1.47074310379556
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=cze;eng;enm;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=cze;eng;enm;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=13
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00016]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=190673819
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33747741
NSIZE=126695424
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00014]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=267310218
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=42313423
NSIZE=180867072
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00017]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=383841642
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41075060
NSIZE=259510272
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00023]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=645395772
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=49435412
NSIZE=416047104
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00022]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1000953965
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=61593058
NSIZE=639191040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00021]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1005399797
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=61638103
NSIZE=649211904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00025]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1009538398
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=62178643
NSIZE=649095168
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00024]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1055008786
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=63927890
NSIZE=678365184
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00027]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1096494190
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=65429390
NSIZE=705540096
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00026]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1137979593
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=67225184
NSIZE=729722880
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00018]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1263267139
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=65557017
NSIZE=816697344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00121]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000010000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=1833806652
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
NSTART=27000000
NEND=44870400
NSIZE=1227448320
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00000]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=111000001
PGS=10000010000000000000010010
M2TS_TARGET=41204012587
VIDEO2=253423716.386555
V2MBRATE=7000
NSTART=27000000
NEND=405135225
NSIZE=21070276608
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

It looks like you're not encoding from an original BD. The most likely problem is that the source is corrupted.

I don't see why you're even reencoding... as your target size is bigger than the source.

[K4rm4d0n]

Thanks for reply. Because I want to rid of all unwanted audio tracks and I suppose it's not reencoded if I put bigger target size. BTW original disc plays just fine... And now I got the same problem with The.Matrix.Trilogy.BluRay.1080p.DTHD5.1.MultiSubs-JaNn - all tracks except TrueHD are mixed together...

[jdobbs]

Thanks for reply. Because I want to rid of all unwanted audio tracks and I suppose it's not reencoded if I put bigger target size. BTW original disc plays just fine... And now I got the same problem with The.Matrix.Trilogy.BluRay.1080p.DTHD5.1.MultiSubs-JaNn - all tracks except TrueHD are mixed together... Whether the original plays really doesn't matter -- unfortunately if it is corrupt the problem can show in the output but not necessarily in the original. It has to be decoded and reencoded, where a playback device can ignore errors -- a reencoder has to make sense of all of it. Just as advice, the names you're showing could be read as downloaded content -- which violates forum rules. More importantly, corruption is much more highly probable in downloaded content. There are some pretty goofy techniques used by those hackers, and they don't typically know what they are doing.

[K4rm4d0n]

OK, thanks for the answer. But video is untouched, right? Not reencoded? That's why I got bigger target than original and log says "Keeping original video (no reencode)".

[jdobbs]

OK, thanks for the answer. But video is untouched, right? Not reencoded? That's why I got bigger target than original and log says "Keeping original video (no reencode)". Yes. If the video will fit as is (and your target/mode allows the original CODEC), it is not reencoded but is kept intact.

Audio might be kept intact -- depending upon your settings.

[buffalofloyd]

Looks like I finally got the inspect error to go away.

Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch

I uninstalled K-lite and just installed Haali, ffdshow, and avisynth by themselves and now all is good. Just a heads up if anyone else is having issues.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Cheers!

[dfsooner]

I've been getting the following error on recent rebuilds in phase two - rebuilding BD file structure:

"BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2401 [06:38:41] CorrectMPLS() 00009"

What is this message trying to tell me?

I believe the problem is in my system but I am looking for a clue as to where to start searching for a culprit. Inspect looks ok. 38.04 was working fine until yesterday when I just got this error on two consecutive movies.

[jdobbs]

I've been getting the following error on recent rebuilds in phase two - rebuilding BD file structure:

"BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2401 [06:38:41] CorrectMPLS() 00009"

What is this message trying to tell me?

I believe the problem is in my system but I am looking for a clue as to where to start searching for a culprit. Inspect looks ok. 38.04 was working fine until yesterday when I just got this error on two consecutive movies. That means a subscript is out of range during setup of MPLS scans. I just looked at it, and the only way you could get it with 2401 is if somehow the number of entries in BD-RB's M2TS attributes array has changed since the program was started or a new source was selected -- and that's pretty much impossible.

It sounds like possibly flaky memory?

[dfsooner]

That means a subscript is out of range during setup of MPLS scans. I just looked at it, and the only way you could get it with 2401 is if somehow the number of entries in BD-RB's M2TS attributes array has changed since the program was started or a new source was selected -- and that's pretty much impossible.

It sounds like possibly flaky memory?

Sounded plausible, but I got the same error on another system. The movie is "The Lincoln Lawyer".

[jdobbs]

Sounded plausible, but I got the same error on another system. The movie is "The Lincoln Lawyer". Hmmm... I picked that movie up today. I'll run it and see what happens. Did you do a movie-only backup, full backup, or Alternate backup? BD-25, 9, or 5? Any special settings used?

[setarip_old]

Hi!

To help things along - I did a BD25 full disc backup of "The Lincoln Lawyer", with no problems noted...

[Av8r]

only libavcodec and libmpeg2.

This is the 3rd time I've installed BDRebuilder and have not had a problem before, so I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

[jdobbs]

Hi!

To help things along - I did a BD25 full disc backup of "The Lincoln Lawyer", with no problems noted... I did that last night as one of the jobs I ran -- it also ran fine (no compression required). I have a DVD-5 movie-only encode going now.

[jdobbs]

only libavcodec and libmpeg2.

This is the 3rd time I've installed BDRebuilder and have not had a problem before, so I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

"Enabled" would be either of those. When it isn't "disabled" it is "enabled".

[dfsooner]

I did that last night as one of the jobs I ran -- it also ran fine (no compression required). I have a DVD-5 movie-only encode going now.

I reloaded a saved project and re-ran it last night and it worked fine. I must have somehow inadvertently introduced some inconsistency in the setup info. I know I tried at one time to get two concurrent rebuilds going on one of the systems (I have an i7 2600k -Z68 system and thought I could pull if off). That is probably what caused a problem in the first instance - INI file changed midstream.

It would be nice if you could run multiple instances using separate workfile folders if you have the horsepower to do it.

[jdobbs]

I reloaded a saved project and re-ran it last night and it worked fine. I must have somehow inadvertently introduced some inconsistency in the setup info. I know I tried at one time to get two concurrent rebuilds going on one of the systems (I have an i7 2600k -Z68 system and thought I could pull if off). That is probably what caused a problem in the first instance - INI file changed midstream.

It would be nice if you could run multiple instances using separate workfile folders if you have the horsepower to do it. I also ran movie-only this morning and it worked as well.

You can run muliple instances -- just install BD-RB in two (or more) different folders -- and then set two (or more) different working folders. Each BD-RB installation works independently as long as they are installed in different paths.

[Av8r]

"Enabled" would be either of those. When it isn't "disabled" it is "enabled".

I'm getting Component "MSCOMCTL.OCX" or dependencies not correctly registered.

Would it be easier just to uninstall and reinstall? I'm not sure it will work though, because I thought I did it right the first time. This is on a new hard drive with a new installation of W7x64.

[Av8r]

I'm getting Component "MSCOMCTL.OCX" or dependencies not correctly registered.

Would it be easier just to uninstall and reinstall? I'm not sure it will work though, because I thought I did it right the first time. This is on a new hard drive with a new installation of W7x64.

Never mind. I used this incredible new tool called "Search";)
Fixed issue in 30 seconds:)

[setarip_old]

@Av8R

Hi! Fixed issue in 30 secondsPlease be good enough to share your solution...

[HWK]

@Av8R

Hi! Please be good enough to share your solution...

Use search and you will have solution as well :) or you can use what I do run BD-Rebuilder.exe as admin and it will take care of the problem. Whenever this kind of problem rise.

[setarip_old]

@HWK

Hi!

I wasn't seeking the solution for myself - just asking Av8R to be courteous and share and post the solution for "all to see" ;>}

[laserfan]

To me, there are few worse things one can do on a board like this than to post a problem, and then say "nm I fixed it" without posting what the fix was! :devil:

[dfsooner]

Got this message on multiple rebuild attempts on two different systems for the movie "Gamer".

I have tried BD-9 and BD-25 both with and without LAVF.

Interestingly, BD Rebuilder log shows a negative bitrate on the clips that fail before the program stops.

Excerpt from the end of the log file on the BD-25 rebuild:


- [23:00:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00375]
- [23:00:30] Reencoding: VID_00375 (40 of 67)
- [23:00:30] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [23:00:42] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_03]
- [23:00:52] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_04]
- [23:01:00] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_05]
- [23:01:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,533 frames
- Bitrate: 5,488 Kbs
- [23:01:13] Reencoding: VID_00375, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:01:13] Reencoding: VID_00375, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:02:29] Video Encode complete
- [23:02:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:02:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:02:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00378]
- [23:02:51] Reencoding: VID_00378 (41 of 67)
- [23:02:51] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [23:03:01] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_03]
- [23:03:10] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_04]
- [23:03:22] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_05]
- [23:03:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_06]
- [23:03:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,372 frames
- Bitrate: -2,041 Kbs
- [23:03:43] Reencoding: VID_00378, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:03:43] Reencoding: VID_00378, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[09:06:05] - Failed video encode, aborted

You will notice that VID-00375 rebuild was ok in this instance. However, it was the one that failed on the BD-9 rebuild.

[cyberdoggy]

Can somebody please help me change the settings somewhere: My problem is for some reason the output audio has been NEO:6 instead of Dolby Pro-Logic II. My question is what setting changed for this to happen it is starting to really bug me! by the way I have default settings on in bdrebuilder in Windows 7, and I am making DVD5's

[jdobbs]

Got this message on multiple rebuild attempts on two different systems for the movie "Gamer".

I have tried BD-9 and BD-25 both with and without LAVF.

Interestingly, BD Rebuilder log shows a negative bitrate on the clips that fail before the program stops.

Excerpt from the end of the log file on the BD-25 rebuild:


- [23:00:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00375]
- [23:00:30] Reencoding: VID_00375 (40 of 67)
- [23:00:30] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [23:00:42] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_03]
- [23:00:52] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_04]
- [23:01:00] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_05]
- [23:01:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,533 frames
- Bitrate: 5,488 Kbs
- [23:01:13] Reencoding: VID_00375, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:01:13] Reencoding: VID_00375, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:02:29] Video Encode complete
- [23:02:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:02:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:02:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00378]
- [23:02:51] Reencoding: VID_00378 (41 of 67)
- [23:02:51] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [23:03:01] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_03]
- [23:03:10] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_04]
- [23:03:22] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_05]
- [23:03:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_06]
- [23:03:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,372 frames
- Bitrate: -2,041 Kbs
- [23:03:43] Reencoding: VID_00378, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:03:43] Reencoding: VID_00378, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[09:06:05] - Failed video encode, aborted

You will notice that VID-00375 rebuild was ok in this instance. However, it was the one that failed on the BD-9 rebuild. I'd say this is obviously a bug in BD-RB... I'll pick up "Gamer" and give it a test.

[jdobbs]

Can somebody please help me change the settings somewhere: My problem is for some reason the output audio has been NEO:6 instead of Dolby Pro-Logic II. My question is what setting changed for this to happen it is starting to really bug me! by the way I have default settings on in bdrebuilder in Windows 7, and I am making DVD5's That has to be something in the playback settings. In BD-RB the audio is either untouched, or it is decoded via NicAudio and encoded to AC3. What are you using for playback, I have to guess it is a software player that is somehow configured for NEO:6.

[PurpleMan]

I'd say this is obviously a bug in BD-RB... I'll pick up "Gamer" and give it a test.

So jdobbs, exactly how large is your Blu-ray collection as of now? :)

[cyberdoggy]

That has to be something in the playback settings. In BD-RB the audio is either untouched, or it is decoded via NicAudio and encoded to AC3. What are you using for playback, I have to guess it is a software player that is somehow configured for NEO:6.

Using a Pioneer Standalone Blu-Ray player with an onkyo Receiver. And No when I check the DVD with mediainfo it is telling me the Audio track is DTS.

[jdobbs]

Using a Pioneer Standalone Blu-Ray player with an onkyo Receiver. And No when I check the DVD with mediainfo it is telling me the Audio track is DTS. It it has been run through BD-RB, and the track is still DTS, it is a bit-for-bit duplicate of the original and it has been simply extracted and remuxed (no processing of the audio itself whatsoever).

[cyberdoggy]

It it has been run through BD-RB, and the track is still DTS, it is a bit-for-bit duplicate of the original and it has been simply extracted and remuxed (no processing of the audio itself whatsoever).

Yes it was run through BD-RB completely many different movies and they all keep coming out with a DTS audiotrack which I find strange because I was under the assumption that a DVD5 AVCHD couldn't do that, but here they are playing in NEO:6 on my pioneer Player. I would think maybe its a FFDSHOW issue? I have no clue but yes everything is being downsized to a DVD5 audio and video and I am getting a DTS audio Track every time.

[setarip_old]

@cyberdoggy

they all keep coming out with a DTS audiotrack which I find strange because I was under the assumption that a DVD5 AVCHD couldn't do thatI believe it's only the HD version(s) of DTS that would be excluded from output to BD-DVD5s...

[jdobbs]

Yes it was run through BD-RB completely many different movies and they all keep coming out with a DTS audiotrack which I find strange because I was under the assumption that a DVD5 AVCHD couldn't do that, but here they are playing in NEO:6 on my pioneer Player. I would think maybe its a FFDSHOW issue? I have no clue but yes everything is being downsized to a DVD5 audio and video and I am getting a DTS audio Track every time.Here are the rules (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1447836#post1447836) for how audio is converted or accepted.

One point to remember: DTS is never acceptable under the AVCHD standard. While some players will accept it, it is never a good idea to violate standards.

[cyberdoggy]

Here are the rules (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1447836#post1447836) for how audio is converted or accepted.

One point to remember: DTS is never acceptable under the AVCHD standard. While some players will accept it, it is never a good idea to violate standards.

JDobbs this I understand and agree with you completely, my question was is there a setting messed up somewhere that is causing the output file to be DTS and not Pro-Logic II? I mean obviously there is I just can't figure out what application the setting is in.

[jdobbs]

JDobbs this I understand and agree with you completely, my question was is there a setting messed up somewhere that is causing the output file to be DTS and not Pro-Logic II? I mean obviously there is I just can't figure out what application the setting is in. Do you have "Do not convert DTS" selected and "Strict AVCHD" turned off? If so, DTS will be used for DVD-5.

[jdobbs]

@dfsooner

Could you post your entire log please? When you post portions of the log I can't get important information (such as original size, movie-only or full backup, output size, etc.). Post it inside a code box, that way it will be scrollable.

[dfsooner]

@dfsooner

Could you post your entire log please? When you post portions of the log I can't get important information (such as original size, movie-only or full backup, output size, etc.). Post it inside a code box, that way it will be scrollable.

Will do, but I'll have to rerun it first.

[RobertM]

You don't have to re-run the job to access a previous log. Every time you run BD-Rebuilder the log tab will start out blank, but all the previous logs are archived in a BD-Rebuilder log file in your "working" folder.

[jdobbs]

Will do, but I'll have to rerun it first. No need for that then. I'll run it a couple of ways, and if I can't repeat it I'll get your settings.

[dfsooner]

No need for that then. I'll run it a couple of ways, and if I can't repeat it I'll get your settings.

-----------------------
[08:21:38] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: GAMER
- Input BD size: 42.42 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:51:12.445]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[08:21:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:21:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00322]
- [08:21:59] Reencoding: VID_00322 (1 of 67)
- [08:21:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,096 frames
- Bitrate: 4,547 Kbs
- [08:21:59] Reencoding: VID_00322, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:21:59] Reencoding: VID_00322, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:24:07] Video Encode complete
- [08:24:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:24:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:24:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00323]
- [08:24:59] Reencoding: VID_00323 (2 of 67)
- [08:24:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 15,064 frames
- Bitrate: 4,863 Kbs
- [08:24:59] Reencoding: VID_00323, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:24:59] Reencoding: VID_00323, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:28:51] Video Encode complete
- [08:28:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:28:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:29:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00324]
- [08:29:11] Reencoding: VID_00324 (3 of 67)
- [08:29:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,212 frames
- Bitrate: 4,746 Kbs
- [08:29:11] Reencoding: VID_00324, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:29:11] Reencoding: VID_00324, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:29:33] Video Encode complete
- [08:29:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:29:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:29:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00325]
- [08:29:36] Reencoding: VID_00325 (4 of 67)
- [08:29:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 365 frames
- Bitrate: 5,170 Kbs
- [08:29:36] Reencoding: VID_00325, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:29:36] Reencoding: VID_00325, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:29:43] Video Encode complete
- [08:29:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:29:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:29:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00326]
- [08:29:46] Reencoding: VID_00326 (5 of 67)
- [08:29:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 760 frames
- Bitrate: 5,189 Kbs
- [08:29:46] Reencoding: VID_00326, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:29:46] Reencoding: VID_00326, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:29:59] Video Encode complete
- [08:29:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:29:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:30:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00327]
- [08:30:04] Reencoding: VID_00327 (6 of 67)
- [08:30:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,336 frames
- Bitrate: 5,112 Kbs
- [08:30:04] Reencoding: VID_00327, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:30:04] Reencoding: VID_00327, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:30:29] Video Encode complete
- [08:30:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:30:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:30:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
- [08:30:37] Reencoding: VID_00328 (7 of 67)
- [08:30:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,218 frames
- Bitrate: 4,876 Kbs
- [08:30:37] Reencoding: VID_00328, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:30:37] Reencoding: VID_00328, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:31:31] Video Encode complete
- [08:31:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:31:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:31:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00329]
- [08:32:00] Reencoding: VID_00329 (8 of 67)
- [08:32:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,384 frames
- Bitrate: 4,479 Kbs
- [08:32:00] Reencoding: VID_00329, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:32:00] Reencoding: VID_00329, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:33:21] Video Encode complete
- [08:33:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:33:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:33:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00330]
- [08:33:37] Reencoding: VID_00330 (9 of 67)
- [08:33:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,161 frames
- Bitrate: 5,226 Kbs
- [08:33:37] Reencoding: VID_00330, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:33:37] Reencoding: VID_00330, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:34:33] Video Encode complete
- [08:34:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:34:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:34:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00331]
- [08:34:43] Reencoding: VID_00331 (10 of 67)
- [08:34:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,018 frames
- Bitrate: 5,168 Kbs
- [08:34:43] Reencoding: VID_00331, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:34:43] Reencoding: VID_00331, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:35:19] Video Encode complete
- [08:35:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:35:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:35:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00332]
- [08:35:42] Reencoding: VID_00332 (11 of 67)
- [08:35:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,613 frames
- Bitrate: 4,568 Kbs
- [08:35:42] Reencoding: VID_00332, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:35:42] Reencoding: VID_00332, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:37:21] Video Encode complete
- [08:37:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:37:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:37:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00333]
- [08:37:47] Reencoding: VID_00333 (12 of 67)
- [08:37:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,244 frames
- Bitrate: 5,276 Kbs
- [08:37:47] Reencoding: VID_00333, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:37:47] Reencoding: VID_00333, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:39:44] Video Encode complete
- [08:39:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:39:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:39:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00334]
- [08:39:59] Reencoding: VID_00334 (13 of 67)
- [08:39:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,683 frames
- Bitrate: 4,713 Kbs
- [08:39:59] Reencoding: VID_00334, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:39:59] Reencoding: VID_00334, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:40:48] Video Encode complete
- [08:40:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:40:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:40:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00335]
- [08:41:18] Reencoding: VID_00335 (14 of 67)
- [08:41:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,044 frames
- Bitrate: 4,571 Kbs
- [08:41:18] Reencoding: VID_00335, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:41:18] Reencoding: VID_00335, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:43:19] Video Encode complete
- [08:43:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:43:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:43:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00336]
- [08:43:33] Reencoding: VID_00336 (15 of 67)
- [08:43:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,490 frames
- Bitrate: 4,955 Kbs
- [08:43:33] Reencoding: VID_00336, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:43:33] Reencoding: VID_00336, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:43:59] Video Encode complete
- [08:43:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:43:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:44:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00337]
- [08:44:05] Reencoding: VID_00337 (16 of 67)
- [08:44:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 929 frames
- Bitrate: 5,232 Kbs
- [08:44:05] Reencoding: VID_00337, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:44:05] Reencoding: VID_00337, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:44:22] Video Encode complete
- [08:44:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:44:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:44:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00338]
- [08:44:32] Reencoding: VID_00338 (17 of 67)
- [08:44:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,703 frames
- Bitrate: 4,706 Kbs
- [08:44:32] Reencoding: VID_00338, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:44:32] Reencoding: VID_00338, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:45:12] Video Encode complete
- [08:45:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:45:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:45:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00339]
- [08:45:19] Reencoding: VID_00339 (18 of 67)
- [08:45:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 971 frames
- Bitrate: 4,663 Kbs
- [08:45:19] Reencoding: VID_00339, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:45:19] Reencoding: VID_00339, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:45:35] Video Encode complete
- [08:45:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:45:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:45:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00340]
- [08:45:59] Reencoding: VID_00340 (19 of 67)
- [08:45:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,497 frames
- Bitrate: 4,541 Kbs
- [08:45:59] Reencoding: VID_00340, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:45:59] Reencoding: VID_00340, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:48:14] Video Encode complete
- [08:48:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:48:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:48:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00341]
- [08:49:21] Reencoding: VID_00341 (20 of 67)
- [08:49:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 20,109 frames
- Bitrate: 4,966 Kbs
- [08:49:21] Reencoding: VID_00341, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:49:21] Reencoding: VID_00341, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:54:26] Video Encode complete
- [08:54:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:54:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:54:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00342]
- [08:55:17] Reencoding: VID_00342 (21 of 67)
- [08:55:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,277 frames
- Bitrate: 5,077 Kbs
- [08:55:17] Reencoding: VID_00342, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:55:18] Reencoding: VID_00342, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:58:20] Video Encode complete
- [08:58:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:58:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:58:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00343]
- [08:58:55] Reencoding: VID_00343 (22 of 67)
- [08:58:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,953 frames
- Bitrate: 4,707 Kbs
- [08:58:55] Reencoding: VID_00343, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:58:55] Reencoding: VID_00343, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:01:02] Video Encode complete
- [09:01:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:01:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:01:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00344]
- [09:01:46] Reencoding: VID_00344 (23 of 67)
- [09:01:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,365 frames
- Bitrate: 4,721 Kbs
- [09:01:46] Reencoding: VID_00344, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:01:46] Reencoding: VID_00344, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:04:38] Video Encode complete
- [09:04:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:04:38] Multiplexing M2TS


So big I had to break it up into two posts. Another to follow.

[dfsooner]

Part 2 of 2:

- [09:04:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00345]
- [09:05:24] Reencoding: VID_00345 (24 of 67)
- [09:05:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,689 frames
- Bitrate: 4,968 Kbs
- [09:05:24] Reencoding: VID_00345, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:05:24] Reencoding: VID_00345, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:08:38] Video Encode complete
- [09:08:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:08:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:08:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00346]
- [09:09:13] Reencoding: VID_00346 (25 of 67)
- [09:09:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,828 frames
- Bitrate: 4,417 Kbs
- [09:09:13] Reencoding: VID_00346, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:09:13] Reencoding: VID_00346, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:11:17] Video Encode complete
- [09:11:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:11:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:11:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00347]
- [09:12:09] Reencoding: VID_00347 (26 of 67)
- [09:12:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 13,662 frames
- Bitrate: 4,817 Kbs
- [09:12:09] Reencoding: VID_00347, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:12:09] Reencoding: VID_00347, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:15:37] Video Encode complete
- [09:15:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:15:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:15:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00348]
- [09:16:17] Reencoding: VID_00348 (27 of 67)
- [09:16:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,809 frames
- Bitrate: 4,915 Kbs
- [09:16:17] Reencoding: VID_00348, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:16:17] Reencoding: VID_00348, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:18:59] Video Encode complete
- [09:18:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:18:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:19:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00349]
- [09:19:13] Reencoding: VID_00349 (28 of 67)
- [09:19:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,288 frames
- Bitrate: 4,797 Kbs
- [09:19:13] Reencoding: VID_00349, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:19:13] Reencoding: VID_00349, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:19:38] Video Encode complete
- [09:19:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:19:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:19:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00350]
- [09:19:45] Reencoding: VID_00350 (29 of 67)
- [09:19:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,690 frames
- Bitrate: 4,915 Kbs
- [09:19:45] Reencoding: VID_00350, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:19:45] Reencoding: VID_00350, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:20:12] Video Encode complete
- [09:20:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:20:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:20:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00351]
- [09:20:28] Reencoding: VID_00351 (30 of 67)
- [09:20:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,109 frames
- Bitrate: 5,083 Kbs
- [09:20:28] Reencoding: VID_00351, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:20:28] Reencoding: VID_00351, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:21:46] Video Encode complete
- [09:21:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:21:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:21:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00352]
- [09:21:57] Reencoding: VID_00352 (31 of 67)
- [09:21:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,005 frames
- Bitrate: 4,343 Kbs
- [09:21:57] Reencoding: VID_00352, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:21:57] Reencoding: VID_00352, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:22:33] Video Encode complete
- [09:22:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:22:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:22:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00353]
- [09:22:52] Reencoding: VID_00353 (32 of 67)
- [09:22:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,110 frames
- Bitrate: 4,525 Kbs
- [09:22:52] Reencoding: VID_00353, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:22:52] Reencoding: VID_00353, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:24:10] Video Encode complete
- [09:24:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:24:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:24:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00354]
- [09:25:12] Reencoding: VID_00354 (33 of 67)
- [09:25:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 18,501 frames
- Bitrate: 5,176 Kbs
- [09:25:12] Reencoding: VID_00354, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:25:12] Reencoding: VID_00354, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:30:58] Video Encode complete
- [09:30:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:30:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:31:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00355]
- [09:31:27] Reencoding: VID_00355 (34 of 67)
- [09:31:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,543 frames
- Bitrate: 5,006 Kbs
- [09:31:27] Reencoding: VID_00355, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:31:27] Reencoding: VID_00355, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:32:33] Video Encode complete
- [09:32:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:32:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:32:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00356]
- [09:32:48] Reencoding: VID_00356 (35 of 67)
- [09:32:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,542 frames
- Bitrate: 4,561 Kbs
- [09:32:48] Reencoding: VID_00356, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:32:48] Reencoding: VID_00356, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:33:42] Video Encode complete
- [09:33:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:33:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:33:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00357]
- [09:33:55] Reencoding: VID_00357 (36 of 67)
- [09:33:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,834 frames
- Bitrate: 5,141 Kbs
- [09:33:55] Reencoding: VID_00357, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:33:55] Reencoding: VID_00357, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:34:48] Video Encode complete
- [09:34:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:34:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:34:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00358]
- [09:34:53] Reencoding: VID_00358 (37 of 67)
- [09:34:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 688 frames
- Bitrate: 4,775 Kbs
- [09:34:53] Reencoding: VID_00358, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:34:53] Reencoding: VID_00358, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:35:06] Video Encode complete
- [09:35:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:35:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:35:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00359]
- [09:35:14] Reencoding: VID_00359 (38 of 67)
- [09:35:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,963 frames
- Bitrate: 4,868 Kbs
- [09:35:15] Reencoding: VID_00359, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:35:15] Reencoding: VID_00359, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:35:44] Video Encode complete
- [09:35:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:35:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:35:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00360]
- [09:35:50] Reencoding: VID_00360 (39 of 67)
- [09:35:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,346 frames
- Bitrate: 4,977 Kbs
- [09:35:50] Reencoding: VID_00360, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:35:50] Reencoding: VID_00360, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:36:15] Video Encode complete
- [09:36:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:36:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:36:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00361]
- [09:36:19] Reencoding: VID_00361 (40 of 67)
- [09:36:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 794 frames
- Bitrate: 4,744 Kbs
- [09:36:19] Reencoding: VID_00361, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:36:19] Reencoding: VID_00361, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:36:35] Video Encode complete
- [09:36:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:36:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:36:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00362]
- [09:36:41] Reencoding: VID_00362 (41 of 67)
- [09:36:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,605 frames
- Bitrate: 4,941 Kbs
- [09:36:41] Reencoding: VID_00362, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:36:41] Reencoding: VID_00362, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:37:06] Video Encode complete
- [09:37:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:37:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:37:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00363]
- [09:37:15] Reencoding: VID_00363 (42 of 67)
- [09:37:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,131 frames
- Bitrate: 4,980 Kbs
- [09:37:15] Reencoding: VID_00363, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:37:15] Reencoding: VID_00363, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:37:55] Video Encode complete
- [09:37:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:37:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:37:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00364]
- [09:38:00] Reencoding: VID_00364 (43 of 67)
- [09:38:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 560 frames
- Bitrate: 4,760 Kbs
- [09:38:00] Reencoding: VID_00364, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:38:00] Reencoding: VID_00364, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:38:11] Video Encode complete
- [09:38:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:38:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:38:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00365]
- [09:38:20] Reencoding: VID_00365 (44 of 67)
- [09:38:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,555 frames
- Bitrate: 4,737 Kbs
- [09:38:20] Reencoding: VID_00365, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:38:20] Reencoding: VID_00365, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:39:02] Video Encode complete
- [09:39:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:39:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:39:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00366]
- [09:39:16] Reencoding: VID_00366 (45 of 67)
- [09:39:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,542 frames
- Bitrate: 5,069 Kbs
- [09:39:16] Reencoding: VID_00366, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:39:16] Reencoding: VID_00366, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:40:23] Video Encode complete
- [09:40:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:40:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:40:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00367]
- [09:40:32] Reencoding: VID_00367 (46 of 67)
- [09:40:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,610 frames
- Bitrate: 1,838 Kbs
- [09:40:32] Reencoding: VID_00367, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:40:32] Reencoding: VID_00367, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:40:52] Video Encode complete
- [09:40:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:40:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:40:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00368]
- [09:40:59] Reencoding: VID_00368 (47 of 67)
- [09:40:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,634 frames
- Bitrate: 4,926 Kbs
- [09:40:59] Reencoding: VID_00368, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:40:59] Reencoding: VID_00368, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:41:22] Video Encode complete
- [09:41:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:41:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:41:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00369]
- [09:41:59] Reencoding: VID_00369 (48 of 67)
- [09:41:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,589 frames
- Bitrate: 4,462 Kbs
- [09:41:59] Reencoding: VID_00369, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:41:59] Reencoding: VID_00369, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:44:45] Video Encode complete
- [09:44:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:44:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:44:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00372]
- [09:45:14] Reencoding: VID_00372 (49 of 67)
- [09:45:14] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [09:45:19] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_03]
- [09:45:24] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_04]
- [09:45:29] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_05]
- [09:45:36] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_06]
- [09:45:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,361 frames
- Bitrate: -2,215 Kbs
- [09:45:43] Reencoding: VID_00372, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:45:43] Reencoding: VID_00372, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[09:46:17] - Failed video encode, aborted

[dfsooner]

You don't have to re-run the job to access a previous log. Every time you run BD-Rebuilder the log tab will start out blank, but all the previous logs are archived in a BD-Rebuilder log file in your "working" folder.

You do if you deleted it!

I use a 60GB SSD for the working folder and have to clean it up periodically, particularly when I run things in batch mode.

[jdobbs]

@dfsooner

Wow. Five secondary video tracks! I've never seen that before. I'd be willing to bet that has something to do with the problem.

[d4amenace]

Hello,
I get this message when I attempt to compress my bluray files to bd25:

-----------------------
[17:49:20] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: RANGO
- Input BD size: 26.93 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:50.804]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:49:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:49:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01040]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[17:49:21] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


These are my standard settings:

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.4
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BLANK=0
ENCODER=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\BLU TEMPS\RANGO\
WORKING_PATH=G:\COMPLETED BLU RAY\RANGO\

Can anyone help me figure out what is set up wrong?

[Av8r]

@HWK

Hi!

I wasn't seeking the solution for myself - just asking Av8R to be courteous and share and post the solution for "all to see" ;>}

Sorry, I thought I was being courteous since a "search" explained the answer far more thoroughly and succinctly than I could.

[Capsbackup]

Hello,
I get this message when I attempt to compress my bluray files to bd25:

-----------------------
[17:49:20] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: RANGO
- Input BD size: 26.93 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:50.804]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:49:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:49:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01040]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[17:49:21] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


These are my standard settings:

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.4
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BLANK=0
ENCODER=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\BLU TEMPS\RANGO\
WORKING_PATH=G:\COMPLETED BLU RAY\RANGO\

Can anyone help me figure out what is set up wrong?

Post what Inspect reports. Looks like your setup is not configured correctly. :(

[d4amenace]

Post what Inspect reports. Looks like your setup is not configured correctly. :(

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 2975, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[RobertM]

The correct version of FFDSHOW can be found here (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1227473&postcount=1).

[d4amenace]

The correct version of FFDSHOW can be found here (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1227473&postcount=1).

Thanks for the link. I now have the correct version of FFDSHOW but I am still having the "Failed to retrieve audio, aborted" issue.

[JJB]

Thanks for the link. I now have the correct version of FFDSHOW but I am still having the "Failed to retrieve audio, aborted" issue.

But did you set it up as required on the first page?

[d4amenace]

But did you set it up as required on the first page?

Maybe that's the thing, I don't have audio config or video config options attached to ffdshow. I remember it used to but it doesn't now. Even when I go to the program file folder it doesn't have those programs. (ffdshow_rev3882_20110613)

[JJB]

Maybe that's the thing, I don't have audio config or video config options attached to ffdshow. I remember it used to but it doesn't now. Even when I go to the program file folder it doesn't have those programs. (ffdshow_rev3882_20110613)

I would:
1. Re-boot and check under start>programs if config options are not there then:
2. Un-install then remove any stuff left left by the un-install string in windows explorer.
3. Re-install and check start>programs for the options.

[jagjockey]

Hopefully just a quick one.

I have been running BD-Rebuilder for a few months with no problems. My HD packeded in and so reinstalled everything. PC works fine. But RB errors out after a few seconds with Video Encode Fail. Inspect reveals no problems - all are 'ok'.
It does the same on all discs.
I am obviously missing something simple here.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

TIA.

Al

[jdobbs]

Hopefully just a quick one.

I have been running BD-Rebuilder for a few months with no problems. My HD packeded in and so reinstalled everything. PC works fine. But RB errors out after a few seconds with Video Encode Fail. Inspect reveals no problems - all are 'ok'.
It does the same on all discs.
I am obviously missing something simple here.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

TIA.

Al You haven't given me much to work with -- you've provided no logs, or even the title of the disc you're attempting. That makes it virtually impossible to address.

[jagjockey]

Ok.

The disc in question is Cars. Although it gives the same result on any disc.

[12:40:12] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: CARS_GBR
- Input BD size: 36.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:09:53.536]
- Target BD size: 21.97 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[12:40:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:40:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [12:40:12] Reencoding: VID_00081 (1 of 34)
- [12:40:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [12:40:12] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[12:40:13] - Failed video encode, aborted

[jagjockey]

I have uninstalled/reinstalled all associated programs and it now seems to work on The Human Planet, full discs.
The file oo81 in the log is the menu screen for the film.
It now seems to back up Cars in movie mode but errors out in Full discs.

[jdobbs]

Have you tried uninstalling all components and then reinstalling everything? Sometimes other software that is installed will "intercept" CODECs, causing problems, and give no indication of doing so. Also, if you have any "codec packs" installed -- remove them. All the CODECs you will ever need are included in FFDSHOW.

Interesting that the section where it is failing is only 24 frames long... have you changed MIN_M2TS_SIZE?

[Edit] Look like you posted while I was answering... BD-RB should recognize a menu and for BD-25 in most cases it should not change it.

[jagjockey]

Just locked up at 71%.

[jagjockey]

Not installed any other codecs besides Rebuilder ones.

I can select oo81 in vlc and it plays fine.

I have just rebooted the pc and I'll rerun RB to see if it stops again.

thanks for replying.

[jagjockey]

Now this is being reported:

[13:35:13] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: CARS_GBR
- Input BD size: 25.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:35.988]
- Target BD size: 21.97 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[13:35:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:35:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00060]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[13:35:16] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[13:35:44] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: CARS_GBR
- Input BD size: 25.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:35.988]
- Target BD size: 21.97 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[13:35:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:35:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00060]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[13:35:47] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[13:36:13] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: CARS_GBR
- Input BD size: 36.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:09:53.536]
- Target BD size: 21.97 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[13:36:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:36:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[13:36:15] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[13:36:39] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: CARS_GBR
- Input BD size: 36.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:09:53.536]
- Target BD size: 21.97 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[13:36:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:36:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[13:36:40] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[13:37:10] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: CARS_GBR
- Input BD size: 25.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:35.988]
- Target BD size: 21.97 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[13:37:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:37:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[13:37:11] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[jdobbs]

What did you use to rip it? An error in extracting subs is very rare -- and could indicate a corrupt source.

[jagjockey]

Anydvd - full/latest version, not trial

[jagjockey]

Now getting the same error as in message 12545 log, on other discs

[jdobbs]

Now getting the same error as in message 12545 log, on other discs Something is installed wrong. Since it worked and then stopped again, I have to think that some other software on your system is changing the settings back...

[jagjockey]

It's just about a bare system, software wise. Just reinstalled a clean Windows. I don't understand the workings of RB or all the settings.

When I installed it about 6 months ago it worked straight out the box. Wonder if it is worth downgrading to an earlier version?

[Capsbackup]

It's just about a bare system, software wise. Just reinstalled a clean Windows. I don't understand the workings of RB or all the settings.

When I installed it about 6 months ago it worked straight out the box. Wonder if it is worth downgrading to an earlier version?

This is definately not the solution. you have a setup issue, Windows Admin. privilege issue, etc..:(
Where do you have BD-RB's install folder? Try putting it on the desktop or on C: directly.

[jagjockey]

RB is installed on a usb attached HD. It has always been there.

Everything else on the pc works fine, all dvd and mts files plays with no problem.

[sytyguy]

Try ripping the disc to harddrive with AnyDvd, and then use BD-RB from the HDD. It might resolve your problem, or it might discover some errors on the disc?

Just a thought!

[jagjockey]

I have tried ripping from the discs and ripping to HD first.

Same result.

I have ran RB from Desktop, c Drive and Ext HD, same result.

I am thinking of reinstalling Vista again.

[jdobbs]

It's just about a bare system, software wise. Just reinstalled a clean Windows. I don't understand the workings of RB or all the settings.

When I installed it about 6 months ago it worked straight out the box. Wonder if it is worth downgrading to an earlier version? Just for the heck of it, try uninstalling HAALI and then installing the previously recommended HAALI version (http://www.jdobbs.net/Freeware/MatroskaSplitter.exe).

[jagjockey]

Ok. Be back in a minute.

[jagjockey]

This is what I get now:

[17:14:19] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: CARS_GBR
- Input BD size: 25.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:35.988]
- Target BD size: 21.97 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[17:14:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:14:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[17:14:19] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


This is with Movie only and Full disc

[jagjockey]

I must be doing something wrong. Every disc and ripped folder now fail.

[jagjockey]

It fails instantly as soon as I press Backup.

[jagjockey]

I uninstalled Haali splitter and it made no difference to RB, I presume it shouldhave.

So could it be that Haali is the problem even when I had it installed?

[jagjockey]

Just found that I had Xiph.org Open codecs 0.85.17777 installed.

[laserfan]

Just found that I had Xiph.org Open codecs 0.85.17777 installed.
Six posts in a row--must be some sort of record.

Edit your last post if no one has posted after it!

[jagjockey]

I'm clutching at straws now, it's driving me mad!!!

[jdobbs]

I uninstalled Haali splitter and it made no difference to RB, I presume it shouldhave.

So could it be that Haali is the problem even when I had it installed?

It really shouldn't make a difference -- but I thought it might be worth a try.

[dfsooner]

@dfsooner

Wow. Five secondary video tracks! I've never seen that before. I'd be willing to bet that has something to do with the problem.

Were you able to reproduce the problem?

If so, is it something you can fix or is it a problem with x264?

[xtremevideoinc117]

having problems with Your Highness Blu Ray

[xtremevideoinc117]

- [20:36:40] Reencoding: VID_50278 (3 of 55)
- [20:36:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,748 frames
- [20:36:40] Reencoding: VID_50278, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[20:39:42] - Failed video encode, aborted

[xtremevideoinc117]

-----------------------
[20:35:48] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: YOUR_HIGHNESS
- Input BD size: 45.27 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:43:39.922]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:35:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:35:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00305]
- [20:35:53] Reencoding: VID_00305 (1 of 55)
- [20:35:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 980 frames
- [20:35:53] Reencoding: VID_00305, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:36:15] Video Encode complete
- [20:36:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:36:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:36:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50308]
- [20:36:19] Reencoding: VID_50308 (2 of 55)
- [20:36:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 499 frames
- Bitrate: 14,687 Kbs
- [20:36:19] Reencoding: VID_50308, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:36:36] Video Encode complete
- [20:36:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:36:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:36:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50278]
- [20:36:40] Reencoding: VID_50278 (3 of 55)
- [20:36:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,748 frames
- [20:36:40] Reencoding: VID_50278, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[20:39:42] - Failed video encode, aborted

[dfsooner]

[12:27:27] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: LIMITLESS_BD
- Input BD size: 32.03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:00:09.550]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:27:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:27:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12:28:00] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 30)
- [12:28:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,926 frames
- Bitrate: 19,419 Kbs
- [12:28:00] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:28:01] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:32:23] Video Encode complete
- [12:32:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:32:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:32:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [12:32:47] Reencoding: VID_00028 (2 of 30)
- [12:32:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,328 frames
- Bitrate: 22,040 Kbs
- [12:32:47] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:32:47] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:33:45] Video Encode complete
- [12:33:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:33:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:33:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [12:34:30] Reencoding: VID_00029 (3 of 30)
- [12:34:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,005 frames
- Bitrate: 21,984 Kbs
- [12:34:30] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:34:30] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:40:24] Video Encode complete
- [12:40:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:40:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:41:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [12:41:22] Reencoding: VID_00030 (4 of 30)
- [12:41:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,741 frames
- Bitrate: 21,648 Kbs
- [12:41:22] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:41:23] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:43:30] Video Encode complete
- [12:43:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:43:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:43:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [12:43:54] Reencoding: VID_00031 (5 of 30)
- [12:43:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,896 frames
- Bitrate: 22,087 Kbs
- [12:43:54] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:43:55] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:45:22] Video Encode complete
- [12:45:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:45:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:45:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [12:45:33] Reencoding: VID_00032 (6 of 30)
- [12:45:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 681 frames
- Bitrate: 21,896 Kbs
- [12:45:33] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:45:34] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:46:06] Video Encode complete
- [12:46:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:46:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:46:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00033]
- [12:48:28] Reencoding: VID_00033 (7 of 30)
- [12:48:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 18,547 frames
- Bitrate: 21,954 Kbs
- [12:48:28] Reencoding: VID_00033, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:48:28] Reencoding: VID_00033, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:02:26] Video Encode complete
- [13:02:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:02:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:04:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [13:04:25] Reencoding: VID_00034 (8 of 30)
- [13:04:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,589 frames
- Bitrate: 21,977 Kbs
- [13:04:25] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:04:26] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:05:36] Video Encode complete
- [13:05:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:05:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:05:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00035]
- [13:06:05] Reencoding: VID_00035 (9 of 30)
- [13:06:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,877 frames
- Bitrate: 21,833 Kbs
- [13:06:05] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:06:05] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:12:20] Video Encode complete
- [13:12:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:12:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:15:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00036]
- [13:15:40] Reencoding: VID_00036 (10 of 30)
- [13:15:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,464 frames
- Bitrate: 22,151 Kbs
- [13:15:40] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:15:41] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:16:46] Video Encode complete
- [13:16:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:16:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:16:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
- [13:17:18] Reencoding: VID_00037 (11 of 30)
- [13:17:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,489 frames
- Bitrate: 21,932 Kbs
- [13:17:18] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:17:18] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:20:28] Video Encode complete
- [13:20:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:20:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:20:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [13:20:51] Reencoding: VID_00038 (12 of 30)
- [13:20:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,251 frames
- Bitrate: 22,021 Kbs
- [13:20:51] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:20:51] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:21:44] Video Encode complete
- [13:21:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:21:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:21:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [13:22:52] Reencoding: VID_00039 (13 of 30)
- [13:22:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,291 frames
- Bitrate: 21,977 Kbs
- [13:22:52] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:22:52] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:29:18] Video Encode complete
- [13:29:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:29:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:29:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [13:30:22] Reencoding: VID_00040 (14 of 30)
- [13:30:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,143 frames
- Bitrate: 21,830 Kbs
- [13:30:22] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:30:22] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:34:01] Video Encode complete
- [13:34:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:34:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:34:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [13:36:39] Reencoding: VID_00041 (15 of 30)
- [13:36:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 22,289 frames
- Bitrate: 21,977 Kbs
- [13:36:39] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:36:39] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:52:36] Video Encode complete
- [13:52:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:52:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:54:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [13:54:35] Reencoding: VID_00042 (16 of 30)
- [13:54:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,071 frames
- Bitrate: 21,833 Kbs
- [13:54:35] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:54:35] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:56:02] Video Encode complete
- [13:56:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:56:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:56:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
- [13:56:32] Reencoding: VID_00043 (17 of 30)
- [13:56:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,422 frames
- Bitrate: 21,523 Kbs
- [13:56:32] Reencoding: VID_00043, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:56:32] Reencoding: VID_00043, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:59:30] Video Encode complete
- [13:59:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:59:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:59:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00044]
- [14:00:02] Reencoding: VID_00044 (18 of 30)
- [14:00:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,704 frames
- Bitrate: 21,966 Kbs
- [14:00:02] Reencoding: VID_00044, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:00:02] Reencoding: VID_00044, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:02:34] Video Encode complete
- [14:02:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:02:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:02:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [14:03:50] Reencoding: VID_00045 (19 of 30)
- [14:03:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,714 frames
- Bitrate: 22,012 Kbs
- [14:03:50] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:03:51] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:09:47] Video Encode complete
- [14:09:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:09:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:10:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00046]
- [14:10:15] Reencoding: VID_00046 (20 of 30)
- [14:10:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 987 frames
- Bitrate: 22,212 Kbs
- [14:10:15] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:10:15] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:10:56] Video Encode complete
- [14:10:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:10:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:10:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00047]
- [14:11:30] Reencoding: VID_00047 (21 of 30)
- [14:11:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,245 frames
- Bitrate: 22,047 Kbs
- [14:11:30] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:11:31] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:15:45] Video Encode complete
- [14:15:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:15:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:16:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00048]
- [14:16:08] Reencoding: VID_00048 (22 of 30)
- [14:16:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 979 frames
- Bitrate: 22,054 Kbs
- [14:16:08] Reencoding: VID_00048, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:16:08] Reencoding: VID_00048, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:16:48] Video Encode complete
- [14:16:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:16:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:16:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00049]
- [14:17:25] Reencoding: VID_00049 (23 of 30)
- [14:17:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,086 frames
- Bitrate: 21,992 Kbs
- [14:17:25] Reencoding: VID_00049, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:17:25] Reencoding: VID_00049, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:22:19] Video Encode complete
- [14:22:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:22:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:22:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [14:24:25] Reencoding: VID_00050 (24 of 30)
- [14:24:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 23,221 frames
- Bitrate: 21,320 Kbs
- [14:24:25] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:24:25] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:39:48] Video Encode complete
- [14:39:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:39:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
- [14:41:52] Reencoding: VID_00051 (25 of 30)
- [14:41:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,775 frames
- Bitrate: 21,918 Kbs
- [14:41:52] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:41:52] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:44:29] Video Encode complete
- [14:44:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:44:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00325]
- [14:44:49] Reencoding: VID_00325 (26 of 30)
- [14:44:49] Collecting video information
[14:44:49] - Failed video encode, aborted

From Inspect:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

FYI - According to BDEdit, 00325.m2ts is not referenced by any playlist.

7/31 update:
Removed 00325.m2ts from STREAM folder and rebuild completed successfully. It was only an ad anyway so no significant content lost.
Might want to consider ignoring such unreferenced streams in BDRB or at least just copying them.

[jagjockey]

Don't know if this might help.

But I have another old pc. I installed DvdFab and it 'shrank' Cars with no problems. Movie only and Full Disc. Installed Rebuilder on this pc and it didn't work.
Thought I'd try an earlier version of RB but it is out of date.

[k-c-ksum]

when ripping discs make sure anydvd isnt modifying them as it has the option of skipping the warnings and trailers etc. That option has messed up some of my rips.

[jagjockey]

Yes I do have it set to remove all trailer etc. I'll give it a try.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Were you able to reproduce the problem?

If so, is it something you can fix or is it a problem with x264? Mine ran ok with BD-25 output selected, but it failed with the same error when I tried BD-9. It's caused by the way BD-RB tries to speed up encoding of secondary tracks by using CRF. When the size of the 5 tracks are combined it leaves nothing for the primary video, resulting in the negative bitrate. I'm modifying it to encode secondary tracks proportionally using ABR rather than a fixed CRF.

[Capsbackup]

Mine ran ok with BD-25 output selected, but it failed with the same error when I tried BD-9. It's caused by the way BD-RB tries to speed up encoding of secondary tracks by using CRF. When the size of the 5 tracks are combined it leaves nothing for the primary video, resulting in the negative bitrate. I'm modifying it to encode secondary tracks proportionally using ABR rather than a fixed CRF.

It would be nice to have the option, only for BD5 and BD9 full movie backups, as is true with movie only backups, to not include the secondary video/audio. The secondary video/audio for full backups to BD-25, where there is plenty of room and a higher probability of actually viewing this feature makes sense. But I am not so certain for full backups to BD5/9 media. :cool: ( My Sony's do not show secondary video on BD5/9 media. )

[d4amenace]

But did you set it up as required on the first page?

I changed the video config to inlcude mpeg2 and the audio to uncompressed all supported. Still not working properly. What should I do now?

[jagjockey]

Just another observation.

I 'did' Cars using Dvdfab on full disc. The movie itself was perfect but the menu selection screen was really bad quality, very pixellated.

[jdobbs]

Just another observation.

I 'did' Cars using Dvdfab on full disc. The movie itself was perfect but the menu selection screen was really bad quality, very pixellated. This is a BD Rebuilder forum. What you did with other packages isn't related.

By the way, I and many others have done "Cars" with BD Rebuilder (as a simple search of this thread will tell you). In other words, if you are having problems doing it -- the issue is in your personal configuration.

I'll be honest. After the quotes below I lost confidence that you even know what you have on your system, and that is probably the root of the problem. I just get the feeling we could go around in circles until the cows come home.
Have you tried uninstalling all components and then reinstalling everything? Sometimes other software that is installed will "intercept" CODECs, causing problems, and give no indication of doing so. Also, if you have any "codec packs" installed -- remove them. All the CODECs you will ever need are included in FFDSHOW.

Interesting that the section where it is failing is only 24 frames long... have you changed MIN_M2TS_SIZE?

[Edit] Look like you posted while I was answering... BD-RB should recognize a menu and for BD-25 in most cases it should not change it.Not installed any other codecs besides Rebuilder ones.

I can select oo81 in vlc and it plays fine.

I have just rebooted the pc and I'll rerun RB to see if it stops again.

thanks for replying.
Just found that I had Xiph.org Open codecs 0.85.17777 installed.

[worknstiff]

Seems 2me that here jagjocky is saying that he uninstalled Haali splitter and then tried to run BD_Rebuilder without it. QUOTE: uninstalled Haali splitter and it made no difference to RB, I presume it shouldhave. So could it be that Haali is the problem even when I had it installed? BDE_Rebuilder is not going to run without the helper programs installed. When I had problems I would uninstall all programs including BD_Rebuilder and make sure all the install folders in the Program Folders were deleted. Then after rebooting run a registry cleaner and then reinstall everything (Plus make sure you run BD_Rebuilder as administrator if running Win7 os). This has always cured my problems with BD_Rebuilder, hope this helps.

[discoballs]

I have no sound in bd rebuilder. Everything was installed as instructed on 1st page. When I open bd rebuilder and look down the list of audio there is nothing selected. Have tried deleting and reinstalling, deleting and cleaning registry then installing but have not luck at all. Inspect.exe says

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.3, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
so everything should be working. Any ideas as I have searched everywhere for answers (before I format the drive again). :confused::confused:

I formatted the drive and reinstalled to fix the problem and everything was fine till now.... :confused:
I uninstalled the program I had recently installed which was Dataram RAMDisk V3.5.130R17a to see if it that was the problem. When I started bdrebuilder up I got this message - ''component 'mscomctl.ocx' or one of it's dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid''
I tried starting bdrebuilder with 'run as administrator' and it has fixed it. Just thought I would let you know incase anyone else comes across this problem and is think of a reinstall of windows. :D

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new release of BD-RB (v0.38.05). Changes for this version:- Corrected an error in which the correct version
of HAALI may show (in INSPECT) as "Incorrect".
- Added code to circumvent/correct failed encodes
in instances where NicDTSSource() cannot decode
certain unique types of DTS sources.
- Implemented a workaround for an issue associated
with AC3 reencoding in which some less-resilient
players may get "confused" on sources comprised
of multiple M2TS connections and skip or repeat
sections of video.
- Made improvements to the automatic quality code.
This should improve functioning, especially when
using custom target sizes.
- Corrected an issue in which converting subtitles
for DVD might sometimes result in error message
"Unable to convert subtitle" and subtitles are
not integrated.
- Corrected an error in which numerous secondary
video streams might (rarely) cause a negative
bitrate (and failure) for encoding the primary
video.
- Added a hidden option (MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS) to set
the minimum size of a playlist that is to be
included as a choice in the movie-only playlist
selection. In previous versions this value was
fixed at 15 minutes (which is still the default).
This can be helpful when you want to create
ALTERNATE output from very short sources (e.g.
short cartoons, etc.) See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more
information.
- Added code to prevent encoding attempts of files
that are unreferenced (not part of any MPLS).
- Changed "Quick Encode for Extras" so that it is
"Off" by default.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r2044).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r2044).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[MilesAhead]

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new release of BD-RB (v0.38.05).


I'm still getting the inspect complaint HAALI Splitter isn't recommended version.

I installed both HAALI and ffdshow from the first post, then BDRB. HAALI shows 1.11.96.14 as the version.

[Capsbackup]

Thank you for this new release. :)
I am still getting the "- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version" with this new release on my Win 7 Pro 32 bit OS. :(

[jdobbs]

Thank you for this new release. :)
I am still getting the "- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version" with this new release on my Win 7 Pro 32 bit OS. :( I just tested it, and it's showing correctly on mine. Are you sure you have the right one?

[Edit] Hmm... it is showing incorrectly on my other system, though. Ugghhh....

Ok, I'll do some more testing. It must be something in the difference between 64 bit and 32 bit.

[Edit again] Yep. The size that I'm checking on the 32 bit system was the "size on disc" instead of the actual size. I've fixed it (again) for the next release.

[Capsbackup]

I just tested it, and it's showing correctly on mine. Are you sure you have the right one?

[Edit] Hmm... it is showing incorrectly on my other system, though. Ugghhh....

Ok, I'll do some more testing. It must be something in the difference between 64 bit and 32 bit.

[Edit again] Yep. The size that I'm checking on the 32 bit system was the "size on disc" instead of the actual size. I've fixed it (again) for the next release.

No big deal, just wanted you to be aware. :p BD-RB is working perfectly for me as usual! :)

[had-z]

hi! jdobbs in this build you modified something related to the referenced m2ts (Batman TDK, Gladiator) im asking to do a new backup of TDK and check if finally the bug as gone.

Cheers and thnaks for the new build.

[AGKnotUser]

Just tried 38.05 with The Tourist Region A. I first tried this with 38.02. Here's the log:

[15:26:30] BD Rebuilder v0.38.05 (beta)
- Source: THE_TOURIST
- Input BD size: 21.82 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:28.192]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:26:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:26:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:37:45] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [15:37:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 148,848 frames
- Bitrate: 5,369 Kbs
- [15:37:45] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [16:32:12] Video Encode complete
- [16:32:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:35:14] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:35:14]PHASE ONE complete
[16:35:14]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:35:14] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
- [16:35:14] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [16:37:16] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [16:37:40] Starting MPLEX.
- [16:40:06] Multiplexing 1 subtitles into stream.
- WARNING: Failed to integrate Subtitle_01
- [16:40:09] Building DVD File Structure.
[16:42:29] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[16:42:30]JOB: THE_TOURIST finished.

[jdobbs]

Just tried 38.05 with The Tourist Region A. I first tried this with 38.02. Here's the log:

[15:26:30] BD Rebuilder v0.38.05 (beta)
- Source: THE_TOURIST
- Input BD size: 21.82 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:43:28.192]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:26:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:26:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:37:45] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [15:37:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 148,848 frames
- Bitrate: 5,369 Kbs
- [15:37:45] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [16:32:12] Video Encode complete
- [16:32:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:35:14] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:35:14]PHASE ONE complete
[16:35:14]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:35:14] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
- [16:35:14] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [16:37:16] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [16:37:40] Starting MPLEX.
- [16:40:06] Multiplexing 1 subtitles into stream.
- WARNING: Failed to integrate Subtitle_01
- [16:40:09] Building DVD File Structure.
[16:42:29] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[16:42:30]JOB: THE_TOURIST finished. I've done that one. I'll give it another go.

[AGKnotUser]

I've done that one. I'll give it another go.

To clarify: I first got the message when I tried 38.02. When I saw the Changes.txt entry about subtitles for 38.05 I tried again and got the message again.

[jdobbs]

To clarify: I first got the message when I tried 38.02. When I saw the Changes.txt entry about subtitles for 38.05 I tried again and got the message again. That fix was specifically related to this bug report (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1512666#post1512666).

[AGKnotUser]

That fix was specifically related to this bug report (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1512666#post1512666).

Okay, I see it's a different bug. So mine is a separate bug report.

[gkal]

Hi,
I use the "Symantec Endpoint Protection" and in the last update "BD-RB v0.38.05 (beta) - BD-RBV03805.zip" i had the following issue:
the file "bd_rebuilder.exe", detected As:Bloodhound.Sonar.9 (http://securityresponse.symantec.com/security_response/detected_writeup.jsp?name=Bloodhound.Sonar.9&vid=19157).

That never happens in other versions.

Please advise.

[bassnut]

Symantec does report a FALSE possitive on BDRebuilder you need to add it to your exceptions to get it to ignore BDRebuilder in the future scans.

[gkal]

I know but i had to post it...

[jdobbs]

As I've said before, sometimes the A/V software is as much of a pain as viruses themselves. "Heuristic detection" they call it. Hah!! That could just mean today is Tuesday.

Trend Micro Internet Security says it's ok.

I encrypt the EXE and prevent startup if it has been tampered with -- just to make sure no one ever attaches a virus to it. But sometimes the randomness of encryption can set off "heuristic scanners".

[Capsbackup]

Trend Micro Internet Security says it's ok.


No problems with McAffe either. ;)

[AGKnotUser]

Okay, I see it's a different bug. So mine is a separate bug report.

Just tried it with Avatar, got the warning message again:

[15:04:21] BD Rebuilder v0.38.05 (beta)
- Source: RED_BIRD_2D_WW
- Input BD size: 39.22 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:41:41.685]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:04:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:04:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:24:53] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [15:24:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 232,608 frames
- Bitrate: 3,276 Kbs
- [15:24:54] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [16:50:56] Video Encode complete
- [16:50:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:55:40] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:55:40]PHASE ONE complete
[16:55:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:55:40] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
- [16:55:40] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [16:57:54] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [16:59:55] Starting MPLEX.
- [17:02:08] Multiplexing 1 subtitles into stream.
- WARNING: Failed to integrate Subtitle_01
- [17:02:12] Building DVD File Structure.
[17:04:51] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[17:04:51]JOB: RED_BIRD_2D_WW finished.

[CV91913]

This is kinda strange! Downloaded and installed 38.05 and did a Movie Only - 25 backup of Rambo. It is pretty small and no re-encode was required. I have included all logs and ini files below. The process completed quickly with no errors. But...the movie is nothing but jumpy audio and video. I thought there might be a problem with the rip (even though it played with no problem.) So...ripped again and tried it again. Same exact problem. So...reverted to 38.04. Same results. Uninstalled and reinstalled everything. Same results with 38.05. Then, as a last resort, I forced a re-encode. Everything is just fine. Any ideas on this one? Why would a re-encode solve the problem?


[Status]
LABEL=RAMBO_FIRST_BLOOD
VERSION=v0.38.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=19456284672
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=19456284672
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=1.26650778478083
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00001]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=11001
PGS=101
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=24641536000
NSTART=27000000
NEND=278640136
NSIZE=15816392704
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[15:22:26] BD Rebuilder v0.38.05 (beta)
- Source: RAMBO_FIRST_BLOOD
- Input BD size: 18.12 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:11.586]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:22:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:22:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [15:32:03] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [15:32:03] Collecting video information
- [15:32:03] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [15:32:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:32:03] Multiplexing M2TS
[15:43:20]PHASE ONE complete
[15:43:20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:43:20] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:53:34] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[15:53:37]JOB: 17392276_A019157 finished.

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.5
MODE=2
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\PUBLIC\VIDEOS\BD25\
SOURCE_PATH=M:\RIPS\RAMBO_FIRST_BLOOD\

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.5, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[jdobbs]

@CV91913

What are you using for playback? My guess is that it isn't a standalone player. The only difference between the two ways of doing it would likely be the CODEC.

[CV91913]

@CV91913

What are you using for playback? My guess is that it isn't a standalone player. The only difference between the two ways of doing it would likely be the CODEC.

With the audio/video problems I did not burn to BD. I used MPC provided in your directory and Nero Cineplayer on two different PC's. One win7 64 and the other XP. Have done dozens of these smaller BD's that did not require re-encode and never saw that problem before. Nothing new installed on either computer (except Windows updates) in months. Oh well, as I said...I got it to make a good backup, just thought you might know what gives... Thanks

[synthea]

:eek:BUG - NEW 38.05 DETECTED AS A VIRUS

My Norton Premier 360 detected the NEW 38.05 release's BD_rebuilder.exe file as a HIGH threat and automatically DISABLED it. I'm using Windows 7 Home edition on that PC. Logging in as administrator didn't help. I installed 38.05 several times before I finally noticed the little Norton box flashing in the right corner. Sure enough, Norton had flagged the Bd_rebuilder.exe file as a HIGH THREAT VIRUS. Even after turning OFF the "Remove risks automaticaly" option in Norton360 Premier, it still kept distroying the BD.exe file.

I had to DISABLE the Norton Sonar function to make the NEW 38.05 BETA work.

I'm also using BD rebuilder (OLD release 38.04) on another computer with O/S "Win 7 Ultimate" with the SAME "NORTON 360 premier edition" with NO problems - so that leads me to think that only the NEW BD 38.05 BETA causes the "Premier Norton 360's" Sonar function to treat BD.exe files as a virus.


I'm sure there is a way to "just exclude BD_Rebuilder.exe" from Norton's new Sonar scan in the Premier edition, but I still need to figure out how. (Not as obvious as other Virus programs I've used)

I'll try to re-post later on how to do that.

Synthea

[jdobbs]

:eek:BUG - NEW 38.05 DETECTED AS A VIRUS

My Norton Premier 360 detected the NEW 38.05 release's BD_rebuilder.exe file as a HIGH threat and automatically DISABLED it. I'm using Windows 7 Home edition on that PC. Logging in as administrator didn't help. I installed 38.05 several times before I finally noticed the little Norton box flashing in the right corner. Sure enough, Norton had flagged the Bd_rebuilder.exe file as a HIGH THREAT VIRUS. Even after turning OFF the "Remove risks automaticaly" option in Norton360 Premier, it still kept distroying the BD.exe file.

I had to DISABLE the Norton Sonar function to make the NEW 38.05 BETA work.

I'm also using BD rebuilder (OLD release 38.04) on another computer with O/S "Win 7 Ultimate" with the SAME "NORTON 360 premier edition" with NO problems - so that leads me to think that only the NEW BD 38.05 BETA causes the "Premier Norton 360's" Sonar function to treat BD.exe files as a virus.


I'm sure there is a way to "just exclude BD_Rebuilder.exe" from Norton's new Sonar scan in the Premier edition, but I still need to figure out how. (Not as obvious as other Virus programs I've used)

I'll try to re-post later on how to do that.

SyntheaBug? Are you kidding me? Take your bitching to Norton, not to me. It's their software that is causing the problem. Sure, I'll recompile and reencrypt and it will probably go away -- but it's their software that is at fault, not mine. There's no virus involved here -- only sh*tty A/V detection.

Two other A/V packages (Trend Micro Titanium and McAfee) have verified that there is no virus.

I just recompiled into v0.38.06. Try downloading this one (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV03806.zip) -- then let me know if your "wonderful" A/V detection software accepts it so I can update it in the first post.

[jdobbs]

I would appreciate it if someone with Norton installed could test the link in the previous post so I can get this Norton-manufactured monkey off my back.

[Capsbackup]

I would appreciate it if someone with Norton installed could test the link in the previous post so I can get this Norton-manufactured monkey off my back.

I can confirm no problem with McAfee Still! :p
Any other changes besides trying to make Norton friendly? Should everyone update to this version?

[jdobbs]

I can confirm no problem with McAfee Still! :p
Any other changes besides trying to make Norton friendly? Should everyone update to this version? The only other change is the HAALI checksum correction for 32 bit Windows.

[Capsbackup]

The only other change is the HAALI checksum correction for 32 bit Windows.

OK thanks. Yes, Haali now shows the correct version for me! :) :thanks:

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post with links to a new version of BD Rebuilder (v0.38.06). Changes for this release:- Fixed a continuing error in which the correct
version of HAALI may show as "Incorrect" when
using INSPECT on a 32 bit version of Windows.
- Recompiled and reecrypted EXE to prevent the
Norton A/V software from falsely indicating a
virus.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

I got tired of waiting for someone to test it -- I'll have to assume this version get's around Norton's false positive screwup.

[dvdgdry]

I just downloaded 38.06 and Norton has removed the file bdrebuilder. The inspect file is there but has different parameters than before.

[dvdgdry]

I dislike norton P 360 myself but it is what Comcast in their infinite wisdom offers to their clientele. I am a different poster than 'synthea'

[dvdgdry]

I disabled Norton Anti-Virus detect for 15 mins and was able to download and begin the download process.

[dvdgdry]

I really mean the extracting of A/V streams or download of the BluRay movie is ongoing now and it is still running after enabling Norton Anti-Virus.

[jdobbs]

Yeah, there are a lot of Norton A/V users, that's why I have to try and get around this...

I know it's needed these days -- but I really, really hate A/V software. This kind of crap happens all the time. They've gotten too clever for their own good and now they are wrong as often as they are right.

Let me know how it works out. I can recompile as many times as it takes...

[woecarlson]

Hi all,

When trying to rebuild Animal House tonight, I got a repeated "encode failed" before it skipped to the next project in the queue. I downloaded the latest version (38.06) and made sure all the other components were on the recommended version (as best I can tell) and the issue repeated.

Here is a copy of my "inspection":
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD-RB v0.38.0.6, not current

Here is a log file from the Animal House project:
[01:42:26] BD Rebuilder v0.38.06 (beta)
- Source: ANIMAL_HOUSE_-_R
- Input BD size: 25.96 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:46.517]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[01:42:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:42:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [02:15:34] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [02:15:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 156,480 frames
- Bitrate: 24,294 Kbs
- [02:15:34] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[02:18:40] - Failed video encode, aborted

Thanks in advance for your help!

[teicang]

Hi all, sorry I don't know if I 'm putting the post in the right place or if I have to open a new post.
I have follwing problem to use the BD rebuild on my PC with OS WIN7 ultimate 64 Bit. In other pc all works fine
I tryed also to put a new version 38.06 of Rebuild but nothing is changed. I download all the sw suggested and running also the ispection exe file. In a ripping phase It stopped immediately.
I tryed with Harry potter 4 & 5 with same result.
Any suggest?
Many thanks
\Gianni


- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[22:23:57] - Failed video encode, aborted

[sytyguy]

Are you running it in "Administrator" mode, if not you need to?

[teicang]

Are you running it in "Administrator" mode, if not you need to?

Yes syty i running as administrator :-(

[Ch3vr0n]

can't dl 38.06. Authorisation needed ?

[jdobbs]

can't dl 38.06. Authorisation needed ? Try it again. I made a change to INSPECT (corrected the BD-RB version check) and uploaded it again. I just tested the download from the first post of this thread, and it worked for me.

[Chuckwagon]

I would appreciate it if someone with Norton installed could test the link in the previous post so I can get this Norton-manufactured monkey off my back.

I use the Symantec Endpoint Protection software, and it doesn't give me a virus warning for either 3805 or 3806. They must use slightly different coding in their Norton 360 product. (Symantec makes both, don't they?)

Note: I'm running version 11.0.6200.754 (64-bit) with virus definitions from today. (Aug. 3) I just did a fresh install and a full system scan, and it ignored BD Rebuilder. I even extracted both downloads multiple times to different directories to give it a good shot at seeing it. :)

[dvdgdry]

Page 1 download of this thread still a no go for Norton Prem 360....I am now getting 404 page not found error from the link on the recompile near the top of this page. I guess you are recompiling again. It was a success from me disabling Norton's Prem 360 Anti Virus and redownloading earlier during the night. I was able to burn Source Code movie to Bd-25 fine.

I can stick around awhile longer to try again when you are ready.

Just like 'Synthea' I am unable to figure out how to allow bdrebuilder.exe in Norton's AV file tables. Should I attempt to inform their support team that this file is OK?

[Ch3vr0n]

confirmed, dl working now :)

[dvdgdry]

I hate Norton Prem 360. I have added bd_rebuilder.exe to the exlusions list in it and have disabled its' SONAR and SONAR still removes it. I have rebooted my PC and have the same results. The only thing I have found to work is after downloading 38.06a from this site is to disable the Anti-Virus program and begin downloading the movie before reenabling the Anti-Virus from Norton Prem 360.

I have tried this after Ch3vr0n's last post.

[jdobbs]

I hate Norton Prem 360. I have added bd_rebuilder.exe to the exlusions list in it and have disabled its' SONAR and SONAR still removes it. I have rebooted my PC and have the same results. The only thing I have found to work is after downloading 38.06a from this site is to disable the Anti-Virus program and begin downloading the movie before reenabling the Anti-Virus from Norton Prem 360.

I have tried this after Ch3vr0n's last post. I suggest complain to Norton.

Just as a test, download this zipped EXE (http://www.jdobbs.net/Freeware/BD-RBTEST.ZIP) and replace the one you have. I've removed the ASPROTECT encryption. It could be that Norton is keying off that...

[jwjohnson]

Page 1 download of this thread still a no go for Norton Prem 360....I am now getting 404 page not found error from the link on the recompile near the top of this page. I guess you are recompiling again. It was a success from me disabling Norton's Prem 360 Anti Virus and redownloading earlier during the night. I was able to burn Source Code movie to Bd-25 fine.

I can stick around awhile longer to try again when you are ready.

Just like 'Synthea' I am unable to figure out how to allow bdrebuilder.exe in Norton's AV file tables. Should I attempt to inform their support team that this file is OK?
Probably need to flush you browser cache and try again.

[Nav1]

I have norton 360 and have same problem like other on version 38.06, so I tried this zipped EXE dont work. But version 38.04 work just fine with norton 360. It only happen on the new update, what course...

[jdobbs]

I have norton 360 and have same problem like other on version 38.06, so I tried this zipped EXE dont work. But version 38.04 work just fine with norton 360. It only happen on the new update, what course... That's really weird. I can't imagine...

Try renaming it to something else and see if Norton has somehow made that kind of connection somehow.

I really hate trying to debug someone else's problem -- in this case it is Norton's, not mine.

[Chuckwagon]

To the folks who have Norton and are getting false positives; in addition to working with jdobbs (who is going above and beyond with this) be sure to report the false positive.

https://submit.symantec.com/false_positive/

If enough folks report it, maybe Norton can fix their scanners.

[laserfan]

Better yet, anyone with anything on their hard drives that involves the words "norton" or "symantec", uninstall and eradicate those completely! Norton is the worst computing product ever to be foisted upon an unsuspecting public! :rolleyes:

[dfsooner]

I have had at least a couple of instances of .m2ts files dropped during conversions. Not sure if it's just BD-9's or not but that is where I have seen them.

"Solitary Man" for instance dropped 00036.m2ts, 00071.m2ts, and 00072.m2ts during the rebuild. They are all IGS tracks. The rebuilt version would not play properly until I copied those files into the stream folder - then it worked perfectly.

I was using rev 38.05.

00072.m2ts, incidentally, was not referenced by a playlist and its presence or absence had no effect. However, the others were.

[20:56:48] BD Rebuilder v0.38.05 (beta)
- Source: SOLITARY_MAN
- Input BD size: 21.12 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:53:46.427]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:56:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:56:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [20:56:52] Reencoding: VID_00003 (1 of 11)
- [20:56:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 241 frames
- Bitrate: 6,490 Kbs
- [20:56:52] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:57:04] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:57:22] Video Encode complete
- [20:57:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:57:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:57:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [20:57:26] Reencoding: VID_00004 (2 of 11)
- [20:57:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 241 frames
- Bitrate: 6,187 Kbs
- [20:57:26] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:57:37] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:57:53] Video Encode complete
- [20:57:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:57:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:57:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [20:57:55] Reencoding: VID_00005 (3 of 11)
- [20:57:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 131 frames
- Bitrate: 6,019 Kbs
- [20:57:55] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:58:01] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:58:11] Video Encode complete
- [20:58:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:58:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:58:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [21:08:23] Reencoding: VID_00009 (4 of 11)
- [21:08:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 129,508 frames
- Bitrate: 8,765 Kbs
- [21:08:23] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:19:03] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:36:31] Video Encode complete
- [01:36:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:37:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:41:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [01:41:52] Reencoding: VID_00039 (5 of 11)
- [01:41:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,578 frames
- Bitrate: 5,990 Kbs
- [01:41:52] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:43:35] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:47:36] Video Encode complete
- [01:47:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:47:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:47:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [01:48:11] Reencoding: VID_00041 (6 of 11)
- [01:48:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 21,160 frames
- Bitrate: 2,943 Kbs
- [01:48:11] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:50:04] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:56:15] Video Encode complete
- [01:56:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:56:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:56:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [01:56:23] Reencoding: VID_00050 (7 of 11)
- [01:56:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,557 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 1,637 Kbs
- [01:56:23] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:56:44] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:57:29] Video Encode complete
- [01:57:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:57:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:57:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00073]
- [01:57:38] Reencoding: VID_00073 (8 of 11)
- [01:57:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,608 frames
- Bitrate: 6,081 Kbs
- [01:57:38] Reencoding: VID_00073, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:59:12] Reencoding: VID_00073, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:02:52] Video Encode complete
- [02:02:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:02:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:02:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [02:03:05] Reencoding: VID_00074 (9 of 11)
- [02:03:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,864 frames
- Bitrate: 9,590 Kbs
- [02:03:05] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:04:28] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:08:56] Video Encode complete
- [02:08:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:08:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:08:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00075]
- [02:09:04] Reencoding: VID_00075 (10 of 11)
- [02:09:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,392 frames
- Bitrate: 5,824 Kbs
- [02:09:04] Reencoding: VID_00075, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:10:10] Reencoding: VID_00075, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:13:01] Video Encode complete
- [02:13:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:13:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:13:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00076]
- [02:13:07] Reencoding: VID_00076 (11 of 11)
- [02:13:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 917 frames
- Bitrate: 9,741 Kbs
- [02:13:07] Reencoding: VID_00076, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:13:33] Reencoding: VID_00076, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:14:43] Video Encode complete
- [02:14:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:14:43] Multiplexing M2TS
[02:14:49]PHASE ONE complete
[02:14:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:14:49] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[02:14:50] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[02:14:51]JOB: SOLITARY_MAN finished.

[jdobbs]

BD Rebuilder will drop unreferenced M2TS files (those not a part of an MPLS) because they are not used, but all others should be included. I'll test "Solitary Man" and see if there is a glitch in it somewhere in relation to IGS tracks. In most cases IGS tracks (without video) should be copied intact.

You never know... sometimes new features and changes can have unintended consequences:July 31st, 2011 - v0.38.5
- Added code to prevent encoding attempts of files
that are unreferenced (not part of any MPLS)

[Nav1]

@jdobbs, Yes It works after renaming Bd Rebuilder.exe. No problem with norton 360. Thanks jdobbs......

[dfsooner]

BD Rebuilder will drop unreferenced M2TS files (those not a part of an MPLS) because they are not used, but all others should be included. I'll test "Solitary Man" and see if there is a glitch in it somewhere in relation to IGS tracks. In most cases IGS tracks (without video) should be copied intact.

You never know... sometimes new features and changes can have unintended consequences:July 31st, 2011 - v0.38.5
- Added code to prevent encoding attempts of files
that are unreferenced (not part of any MPLS)

The change you made was needed. Could be that the implementation inadvertently affected some that WERE referenced (your unitended consequences).

[jdobbs]

The change you made was needed. Could be that the implementation inadvertently affected some that WERE referenced (your unitended consequences). You're right. I just looked at it, and I am losing subpath/subplayitem references in the process. Thanks for catching this, this is a big bug for full backups. I have corrected it and will post an update in a few minutes.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to an updated release of BD Rebuilder (v0.38.08). Changes for this release:- IMPORTANT FIX. Corrected an error introduced in
v0.38.5 in which M2TS referenced through subpaths
many not be correctly retained -- especially
noticed in full backups using streams with out-
of-mux IGS streams.
- Changed the executable name for BD Rebuilder to
BDRB.EXE. This is to bypass issues in Norton
360 A/V detection (I guess only Norton knows why
I would need to do this).
- Changed default settings so strict AVCHD is now
the default. This is necessary to prevent
unintended non-standard AVCHD output now that
AC3 audio reencoding is no longer the default.
encoding is no longer the default. (v0.38.7)
- Changed default VBV buffer sizing for BD-5 and
BD-9 output. (v0.38.7)
- Fixed a continuing error in which the correct
version of HAALI may show as "Incorrect" when
using INSPECT on a 32 bit version of Windows.
(v0.38.6)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Note the first fix -- it is important that anyone who installed v0.38.5 or above download and update to this version.

Also please remember to update any shortcuts you may have created to the new EXE name (BDRB.EXE).

[soneca]

Is no longer possible to select a audio track or subtitle to play by default.:(

[hoju3508]

[EDIT] removed comment -- please ignore.

[jdobbs]

Is no longer possible to select a audio track or subtitle to play by default.:(It's working for me... note that you can only do this on movie-only backups.

[soneca]

That's right, forgot that detail.:rolleyes:

[sonate]

So you're saying you have an "Extra" that is over 4GB in length? That's kinda' too big to be an extra. I just went throught about 15 discs that I happen to have on my hard drive. I couldn't find a single disc with an extra anywhere near that big. I guess it's not unheard of, though. Have you changed the default CRF value for quicker?

It shouldn't make your overall encode (disc) oversize, though. The bitrate for the feature is adjusted for the actual output sizes of the extras. But I would still recommend keeping it off when you are doing a disc with "many hours of extras" or if it is a series disc -- I've made that point many times throughout this thread.

Just turn "Quicker Encode for Extras" off.

That definitely solved the oversizing problem , also took about 3 times longer for a start to finish.

Thank you again, just sent a donation through my wife's paypal account.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs So you're saying you have an "Extra" that is over 4GB in length? That's kinda' too big to be an extra.

I believe we've run into this earlier, with the forgettable "Expendables":
Inferno: The Making of 'The Expendables' (HD, 92 min.)

[mdray]

Using the latest build, the Inspect tool tells me that Avisynth 2.58 is the wrong version. Is this an error similar to the previous Haali one please?

[CV91913]

Using the latest build, the Inspect tool tells me that Avisynth 2.58 is the wrong version. Is this an error similar to the previous Haali one please?

Inspect shows "OK" on Avisynth 2.5.8.0 with BDRB v. 38.08 on my system.

[Sharc]

v0.38.08:
For 720p the level has been reduced to level 3.2. For --ref 6 x264 now gives a warning that DPB size (6 frames) is > level limit (5 frames). In earlier version level 4.0 did not produce the reference frames warning.
Has the level reduction from 4.0 to 3.2 become necessary for some reason?

[jdobbs]

Using the latest build, the Inspect tool tells me that Avisynth 2.58 is the wrong version. Is this an error similar to the previous Haali one please? No. For AVISYNTH BD-RB actually looks at the version number of the DLL that is installed. If it says your version is wrong, you likely don't have v2.57 or v2.58 installed.

[jdobbs]

v0.38.08:
For 720p the level has been reduced to level 3.2. For --ref 6 x264 now gives a warning that DPB size (6 frames) is > level limit (5 frames). In earlier version level 4.0 did not produce the reference frames warning.
Has the level reduction from 4.0 to 3.2 become necessary for some reason? Hmm... I changed the VBV buffer size for BD-5 and 9 -- and it appears that triggered another section of code to change the level. I'll fix it for the next release. Level 3.2 was only meant for certain secondary video streams.

[Persecutor]

I installed DB Rebuilder v. 0.38.08 (beta). After creating new shortcut on my desktop, I started the program. It reported that it could not find "a valid path for these required tools:" listing X264.EXE; TSMUXER.EXE; WAVI.EXE; AFTEN.EXE; DECOMB.DLL; SMOOTHDEINTERLACER.DLL; AND MKVMERGE.EXE. It recommended re-installation. I downloaded all the auxiliary programs from your website and installed. After rebooting and starting the DBR program again, I got same message. Have not yet tried the program with a video file.

[Capsbackup]

I installed DB Rebuilder v. 0.38.08 (beta). After creating new shortcut on my desktop, I started the program. It reported that it could not find "a valid path for these required tools:" listing X264.EXE; TSMUXER.EXE; WAVI.EXE; AFTEN.EXE; DECOMB.DLL; SMOOTHDEINTERLACER.DLL; AND MKVMERGE.EXE. It recommended re-installation. I downloaded all the auxiliary programs from your website and installed. After rebooting and starting the DBR program again, I got same message. Have not yet tried the program with a video file.

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to an updated release of BD Rebuilder (v0.38.08). Changes for this release:- IMPORTANT FIX. Corrected an error introduced in
v0.38.5 in which M2TS referenced through subpaths
many not be correctly retained -- especially
noticed in full backups using streams with out-
of-mux IGS streams.
- Changed the executable name for BD Rebuilder to
BDRB.EXE. This is to bypass issues in Norton
360 A/V detection (I guess only Norton knows why
I would need to do this).
- Changed default settings so strict AVCHD is now
the default. This is necessary to prevent
unintended non-standard AVCHD output now that
AC3 audio reencoding is no longer the default.
encoding is no longer the default. (v0.38.7)
- Changed default VBV buffer sizing for BD-5 and
BD-9 output. (v0.38.7)
- Fixed a continuing error in which the correct
version of HAALI may show as "Incorrect" when
using INSPECT on a 32 bit version of Windows.
(v0.38.6)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Note the first fix -- it is important that anyone who installed v0.38.5 or above download and update to this version.

Also please remember to update any shortcuts you may have created to the new EXE name (BDRB.EXE).

You must of missed this! ;)

[jdobbs]

Those tools are all included in the zip file. BD-RB finds them via it's own path. Make sure you retain the file structure represented in the zip file.

[Persecutor]

You must of missed this! ;)

So how do I correct it?

[dfsooner]

So how do I correct it?

Unzip the install package. Copy and paste the "BD_Rebuilder" folder onto one of your hard drives. Add a desktop shortcut to the BDRB.exe file.

If you've already installed Haali, etc., you're done.

That's the way I've always done it and never had a problem.

[Rany]

- Input BD size: 28,06 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:11.691]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:20:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:20:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50284]
- [19:20:51] Reencoding: VID_50284 (1 of 13)
- [19:20:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 122 frames
- [19:20:51] Reencoding: VID_50284, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.05 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[19:20:53] - Failed video encode, aborted

Please help i have windows server 2008 R2 x64 :helpful:

[hokiealum1988]

When I attempt to play on blu ray player it does not go pass main menu.

I selected highest quality setting on 25GB disk and quick encode for extras.

Anything I do wrong.

Help

[Persecutor]

Unzip the install package. Copy and paste the "BD_Rebuilder" folder onto one of your hard drives. Add a desktop shortcut to the BDRB.exe file.

If you've already installed Haali, etc., you're done.

That's the way I've always done it and never had a problem.

That is what I have done in past and this last time.

Went back, deleted the BD Rebuilder folder and the BDRB icon on the desktop. Reunzipped the download to "BD_Rebuilder" folder on hard drive and created shortcut BDRB icon to desktop. Used Inspect application within BD_Rebuilder and it found all auxiliary programs. When I opened BD_Rebuilder there was no error message and it worked like a champ.

[setarip_old]

@Rany

Hi! [19:20:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50284]Unless I'm mistaken, "50284" is not a valid stream number.

You've cropped off the first few lines of the log. Please be good enough to repost the log in its entirety....

[Rany]

@Rany

Hi! Unless I'm mistaken, "50284" is not a valid stream number.

You've cropped off the first few lines of the log. Please be good enough to repost the log in its entirety....


ok and another error resolved to enable the desktop experience and resolved.
now I have another error check:

Inspect

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

log:

[00:59:04] BD Rebuilder v0.38.08 (beta)
- Source:
- Input BD size: 28,06 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:11.691]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[00:59:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:59:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50284]
- [00:59:09] Reencoding: VID_50284 (1 of 13)
- [00:59:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 122 frames
- [00:59:09] Reencoding: VID_50284, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.08 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[01:02:12] - Failed video encode, aborted

to fix that mistake I have to edit registry VC-1?

[jwjohnson]

If you run as Administrator the first time it usually takes care of all these Windows 7 problems.

[setarip_old]

@Rany, @jdobbs

You seem to be playing a game of some sort regarding your source material and the log. First time around, you omitted the first several lines of the log. Now, you've gone to the trouble of DELETING the identification of your Source from the requested "complete" log: [00:59:04] BD Rebuilder v0.38.08 (beta)
- Source: -
Input BD size: 28,06 GB
What's the story? Making a guessing game of a supposed bug report is not appreciated, as it detracts from the author's (and cooperating members') ability to deal with other, properly presented bugs...

[Sharc]

Hmm... I changed the VBV buffer size for BD-5 and 9 -- and it appears that triggered another section of code to change the level. I'll fix it for the next release. Level 3.2 was only meant for certain secondary video streams.
Thanks.
Just to mention that the 720p BD-5 with level 3.2 and --ref 6 indeed caused playback issues (pixelation) on my SONY standalone. Patching the .m2ts video file with tsmuxer to level 4.0 and remuxing solved the problem.

[SLOVEHEART]

:eek:BUG - NEW 38.05 DETECTED AS A VIRUS

My Norton Premier 360 detected the NEW 38.05 release's BD_rebuilder.exe file as a HIGH threat and automatically DISABLED it.

Synthea

J.Dobbs straightened me out about some of these ridiculous 'Heuristic' scanners employed in these F'ing 'Security' software apps - when I had an issue w/ DVD-Rebuilder not loading at all (also Win 7 x64) - the culprit: 'Spyware Doctor' - I have since disabled it; and only run it once in awhile to get rid of 'spyware'.

BTW, you might consider Zone Alarm - IMHO - it is a much better app - but - really, if you are not a big business, who is going to want to break into your system; and if they are good at it, the software for public consumption won't stop them at all...

On the horizion - there is a whole new new type of security software that a fellow in California is distributing for corperate use - they say it is foolproff - I don't buy it...

That's my two cents...

Cheers...

Thank Mr. J.Dobbs (and many others) - for all your great work...

[Capsbackup]

I am having an issue with BD-RB not integrating the subtitles from a 1080i, 29.97fps Blu-ray to DVD-5. The subs are demuxed into a .sup, which is in the Workfiles folder, and the log shows they are converted and multiplexed. But they are not on the completed DVD. :confused:
This Blu-ray is originally captured from my cable box to H.264 at 13.5mbps, I convert the closed captions to .srt, and use tsMuxeR to create a Blu-ray. This Blu-ray plays the subtitle perfectly with TMT3, but after the BD-RB convert to DVD5, the subtitle is not there! :(
Anyone else have this problem?
[18:57:52]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:57:53] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
- [18:57:53] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [18:59:09] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [19:00:30] Starting MPLEX.
- [19:01:53] Multiplexing 1 subtitles into stream.
- [19:04:25] Building DVD File Structure.
[19:06:25] - Encode and Rebuild complete


EDIT:
I have run a few more tests, and the 7 episodes that are between 55:00 to 59:00 minutes long each do not retain the subtitles. The Seven 1:35 second long previews, which I have as seperate files, do retain the subtitles. :confused: Not sure what this means though!

[setarip_old]

@Rany

I previously said: Unless I'm mistaken, "50284" is not a valid stream number.
After further research, I've determined that, in fact, I was mistaken...

[k-c-ksum]

38.05 - secondary video encoded as progressive (progressive source)
38.08 - secondary video encoded as interlaced (progressive source)

[jdobbs]

38.05 - secondary video encoded as progressive (progressive source)
38.08 - secondary video encoded as interlaced (progressive source) Nothing changed in that area between those versions. Secondary video is encoded as it is defined in the source CLPI file. Generally if the primary is interlaced (e.g. 1080i), the secondary will be also. What disc are you reencoding?

[k-c-ksum]

Nothing changed in that area between those versions. Secondary video is encoded as it is defined in the source CLPI file. Generally if the primary is interlaced (e.g. 1080i), the secondary will be also. What disc are you reencoding?

bourne supremacy

[C3it]

When I attempt to play on blu ray player it does not go pass main menu.

I selected highest quality setting on 25GB disk and quick encode for extras.

Anything I do wrong.

Help

I'm running into the same issues using an insignia stand alone blu ray player...
after a few attempts and with the help of my friend we have determined that some blu ray players are just crap! mine is, yours probably is too.
i am willing to bet that the back up plays perfect on your pc... and if you put the backup into a good blu ray player, or a ps3 it will play perfect too..
just letting you know

[omegaman7]

If memory serves, Insignia is a Generic brand sold at best buy. An affordable low cost brand. You do get what you pay for ;) My brother bought an Insignia car stereo deck. It had problems...
I hear good things about Pioneer, LG, Oppo, and of course a PC optical drive can't be beat(A good one). Recommend steering clear of $ony though. Their business practices are not what they use to be. Once upon a time, I loved Sony. But no more. Quantity comes before quality to them :(

Something worth noting though, Is that a really good media, stands a better chance working in any player. My Samsung BD player does not support LTH media, but it will read Taiyo Yuden BD LTH media :D I can't say that surprised me. Taiyo Yuden is hands down the best media you can get! It won't read verbatim though. And I have a lot of respect for them.

[jdobbs]

You can buy a Sony, Samsung, or LG Player for about $99 -- I guess you have to wonder why anyone goes for "cheaper' brands.

Most of the time problems with cheap players isn't necessarily the firmware -- the hardware itself has issues, typically indicated by problems with playback of some disc types.

[colinhunt]

Some player manufacturers use sub-sub-sub-standard BD-ROM drives that exhibit playback issues with BD-R/RE media, and even on commercially replicated discs.

[Capsbackup]

v0.38.08:
For 720p the level has been reduced to level 3.2. For --ref 6 x264 now gives a warning that DPB size (6 frames) is > level limit (5 frames). In earlier version level 4.0 did not produce the reference frames warning.
Has the level reduction from 4.0 to 3.2 become necessary for some reason?


Hmm... I changed the VBV buffer size for BD-5 and 9 -- and it appears that triggered another section of code to change the level. I'll fix it for the next release. Level 3.2 was only meant for certain secondary video streams.

I have noticed this too on movie only backups of 1080i sources as well. Is there any concern for this? Do these parameters create a less compatible backup? :confused:

[jdobbs]

I have noticed this too on movie only backups of 1080i sources as well. Is there any concern for this? Do these parameters create a less compatible backup? :confused: Hmmm... I didn't think that could happen. I don't think it will matter. I'm pretty sure X264 doesn't actually do anything with LEVEL except flag it. But normally Level 3.2 would have a maximum resolution of 1280x720 (if I remember correctly). Just to be sure, I'm posting a new version with the Level fix in it.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.38.09). Changes for this release:- Corrected an error in which the wrong H.264 level
could be used during encoding.
- IMPORTANT FIX. Corrected an error introduced in
v0.38.5 in which M2TS referenced through subpaths
many not be correctly retained -- especially
noticed in full backups using streams with out-
of-mux IGS streams. (v.0.38.8)
- Changed the executable name for BD Rebuilder to
BDRB.EXE. This is to bypass issues in Norton
360 A/V detection (I guess only Norton knows why
I would need to do this). (v0.38.8)
- Changed default settings so strict AVCHD is now
the default. This is necessary to prevent
unintended non-standard AVCHD output now that
AC3 audio reencoding is no longer the default.
encoding is no longer the default. (v0.38.7)
- Changed default VBV buffer sizing for BD-5 and
BD-9 output. (v0.38.7)
- Fixed a continuing error in which the correct
version of HAALI may show as "Incorrect" when
using INSPECT on a 32 bit version of Windows.
(v0.38.6)
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r2057).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r2057).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Sharc]

Hmmm... I didn't think that could happen. I don't think it will matter. I'm pretty sure X264 doesn't actually do anything with LEVEL except flag it. But normally Level 3.2 would have a maximum resolution of 1280x720 (if I remember correctly). Just to be sure, I'm posting a new version with the Level fix in it.
It's my standalone (S360) rather than x264 which had a problem with the lower level and 6 ref frames.
Thanks for the new version :)

[soneca]

Another :thanks:

[LowDead]

It's my standalone (S360) rather than x264 which had a problem with the lower level and 6 ref frames.
Thanks for the new version :)

@Sharc: What kind of problem occured on your standalone player? I'm having some problems*(pixelating picture) myself on my Sony standalone right now that i'm trying to hunt down what is causing it.

//LD

[Sharc]

@Sharc: What kind of problem occured on your standalone player? I'm having some problems*(pixelating picture) myself on my Sony standalone right now that i'm trying to hunt down what is causing it.

//LD
Pixelation (i.e. floating "bricks") in the picture, mainly happening at sharp contrast transitions. In order to exclude a bad rip or similar as the cause I did test with 2 different sources and got the same problem. It only happened with the standalone; MPC-HC didn't show the problem.
I could fix the problem by patching the video file to level 4.0 using tsmuxer. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1518250#post1518250)

[laserfan]

I have to re-do a BD movie's subtitle, both to make it smaller and to fit it into the 2.40 frame where now it is framed at 1.77. I figure I can probably just let BD-RB do its thing and then afterwards re-mux the movie with my new .sub (though getting maybe the stream ids right is something I've never tried).

Has anyone here done this before? Easy or difficult to do?

[jdobbs]

That's pretty much it. After BD-RB has completed, simply replace the appropriate .SUB with the new one in the WORKFILES folder. Then restart BD-RB again and say yes when prompted to "continue" with the previous job. Since all the encoding is already done, the job will pick up at the rebuilding phase and will be remuxed (using your new .SUB).

Don't try to remux outside of BD-RB (e.g. using TSMUXER), though -- as there are other settings that may have to be updated in the MPLS and CLPI files.

[Sharc]

I have to re-do a BD movie's subtitle, both to make it smaller and to fit it into the 2.40 frame where now it is framed at 1.77. I figure I can probably just let BD-RB do its thing and then afterwards re-mux the movie with my new .sub (though getting maybe the stream ids right is something I've never tried).

Has anyone here done this before? Easy or difficult to do?
If I want to change something with the sups I open the extracted .sup in BDSup2Sub, edit it using the movie AR templates there, save it and rename the modified sup overwriting the original extracted .sup in DB-RBs workfolder. That can be done during the movie encoding phase i.e. before BD-RB starts the muxing.

Added: jdobbs was faster...

[shon3i]

Hmmm... I didn't think that could happen. I don't think it will matter. I'm pretty sure X264 doesn't actually do anything with LEVEL except flag it. But normally Level 3.2 would have a maximum resolution of 1280x720 (if I remember correctly). Just to be sure, I'm posting a new version with the Level fix in it.
Yep, but bd specs not allow for 720 or 1080 anything under level 4, and x264 level is not only flag it will reduce ref frames if not explicitly seted and probably some other things.

May i ask why you reduce buffersize to 12K ?

[laserfan]

After BD-RB has completed, simply replace the appropriate .SUB with the new one in the WORKFILES folder...

Don't try to remux outside of BD-RB (e.g. using TSMUXER), though -- as there are other settings that may have to be updated in the MPLS and CLPI files.
It must be a loooong time since I've used BD-RB, as I don't recall ever seeing .SUB files in the WORKFILES folder. Or maybe I'm blind as well as deaf! ;)

Thanks alot--I appreciate too the warning re: "muxing outside". I'll not attempt that ever then! :)

EDIT: Sorry, I just looked at an old logfile set and there are the .sup files. Dunno what I was thinking--not enough coffee this morning! Oops and .sup not .sub of course... :o

[Capsbackup]

It must be a loooong time since I've used BD-RB, as I don't recall ever seeing .SUB files in the WORKFILES folder. Or maybe I'm blind as well as deaf! ;)

Thanks alot--I appreciate too the warning re: "muxing outside". I'll not attempt that ever then! :)

I don't see one either, only a .SUP and XML. :confused:
I am having trouble with BD-RB converting Blu-ray subtitles to Alternative DVD format. The log says it is converting and multiplexing, but it is not there! :(

-----------------------
[21:14:24] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: TRUE_BLOOD_SEASON_4_EPISODE_2
- Input BD size: 5.70 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:55:48.803]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Mode: DVD-9, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:14:24] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:14:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:17:16] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [21:17:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 80,291 frames
- Bitrate: 8,552 Kbs
- [21:17:16] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [22:36:16] Video Encode complete
- [22:36:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:36:25] Multiplexing M2TS
[22:36:25]PHASE ONE complete
[22:36:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:36:25] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
- [22:36:25] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [22:37:36] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [22:39:00] Starting MPLEX.
- [22:40:22] Multiplexing 1 subtitles into stream.
- [22:42:21] Building DVD File Structure.
[22:44:14] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:44:14]JOB: TRUE_BLOOD_SEASON_4_EPISODE_2 finished.

[jdobbs]

Yep, but bd specs not allow for 720 or 1080 anything under level 4, and x264 level is not only flag it will reduce ref frames if not explicitly seted and probably some other things.

May i ask why you reduce buffersize to 12K ? I found that some players (Samsung for one) tended to "stutter" at the layer break on BD-9 output. Reducing the vbv-buffer appears to correct it. I have no idea why...

The reduction to level 3.2 was an unintentional side-effect of another change -- it's been fixed in the current version.

[Sharc]

I am having trouble with BD-RB converting Blu-ray subtitles to Alternative DVD format. The log says it is converting and multiplexing, but it is not there! :(
Open the .xml in notepad. You should see the display start and end times of the individual subtitles. Do these time stamps make sense, or are they totally offset / wrong?

[laserfan]

When BD-RB starts-up from a clean install, the setting --> Encoder Settings --> "Automatic Quality" is checked. But when I un-check Automatic Quality, then "Good (Very Fast)" appears and is checked, and un-checked below is "High Quality (Default)".

So if "Automatic Quality" is checked, and left alone, does it use Good or High Quality settings? :confused:

[omegaman7]

I imagine BD rebuilder makes that determination based on total video length, and based on things removed.

Probably based on just how much the main title has to be compressed. E.g. if it's 80% of the norm, it probably goes fast. If it's 60%, it may switch to default.

[Capsbackup]

Open the .xml in notepad. You should see the display start and end times of the individual subtitles. Do these time stamps make sense, or are they totally offset / wrong?

They make sense, but do not correspond to the same times that BDSup2Sub reports of the 00000.track_4608.sup file found in the Workfiles folder. The XML times for subs appear to come earlier. Even if I adjust the 00000.track_4608.sup with BDSup2Sub and change 23.976fps to 29.97fps, they do not match. ( The XML subs still come early )
So the 00000.track_4608.sup and XML subs are demuxed in the Workfiles folder, the BD-RB log shows it is integrating them into the new DVD structure, BUT it does not! There are no subtitles in the BD-RB created Alternative DVD. :(

[jdobbs]

When BD-RB starts-up from a clean install, the setting --> Encoder Settings --> "Automatic Quality" is checked. But when I un-check Automatic Quality, then "Good (Very Fast)" appears and is checked, and un-checked below is "High Quality (Default)".

So if "Automatic Quality" is checked, and left alone, does it use Good or High Quality settings? :confused: It uses whatever setting it thinks is best for the current source and target. It could be "Good" or it could be "High". Generally if a quicker setting is used, it means that the difference wouldn't be noticable after considering the size of the source and the size of the target -- so the quicker setting is used.

[laserfan]

Generally if a quicker setting is used, it means that the difference wouldn't be noticable after considering the size of the source and the size of the target -- so the quicker setting is used.
OK, I understand now, thanks. :)

[colinhunt]

- IMPORTANT FIX. Corrected an error introduced in
v0.38.5 in which M2TS referenced through subpaths
many not be correctly retained -- especially
noticed in full backups using streams with out-
of-mux IGS streams. (v.0.38.8)
How serious and likely was this bug? I did a few full backups with 0.38.5 and 0.38.8; how would the bug manifest itself in a backup?

[Sharc]

They make sense, but do not correspond to the same times that BDSup2Sub reports of the 00000.track_4608.sup file found in the Workfiles folder. The XML times for subs appear to come earlier. Even if I adjust the 00000.track_4608.sup with BDSup2Sub and change 23.976fps to 29.97fps, they do not match. ( The XML subs still come early )
So the 00000.track_4608.sup and XML subs are demuxed in the Workfiles folder, the BD-RB log shows it is integrating them into the new DVD structure, BUT it does not! There are no subtitles in the BD-RB created Alternative DVD. :(
Are the subtitles just not displayed / not visible or are there no subtitle streams at all in the newly created .vob files (check for example with MediaInfo, VobBlanker or DVDShrink ....)?
Does this happen for one particular BD backup / version of BD-RB only, or does it fail for other Sources / earlier version of BD-RB as well?
I didn't try with the latest DB-RB version yet, but it worked well here with earlier versions (0.6 ... 0.8 IIRC).

[Capsbackup]

Are the subtitles just not displayed / not visible or are there no subtitle streams at all in the newly created .vob files (check for example with MediaInfo, VobBlanker or DVDShrink ....)?
Does this happen for one particular BD backup / version of BD-RB only, or does it fail for other Sources / earlier version of BD-RB as well?
I didn't try with the latest DB-RB version yet, but it worked well here with earlier versions (0.6 ... 0.8 IIRC).

The subtitles stream are not there at all on the DVD! The Blu-ray plays the subtitles perfectly, I can convert to BD5/AVCHD and the subtitles are included and work perfectly. The subtitles are just not getting multiplexed into the Alternative Output DVD. ( But the BD-RB log says they are! ) :confused:

[jdobbs]

How serious and likely was this bug? I did a few full backups with 0.38.5 and 0.38.8; how would the bug manifest itself in a backup? It would only happen on a full backup (not movie-only). The issue would manifest itself in menus (they wouldn't work). The problem was fixed in 0.38.8, so those wouldn't have any issues.

[jdobbs]

The subtitles stream are not there at all on the DVD! The Blu-ray plays the subtitles perfectly, I can convert to BD5/AVCHD and the subtitles are included and work perfectly. The subtitles are just not getting multiplexed into the Alternative Output DVD. ( But the BD-RB log says they are! ) :confused: Is it happening on more than one DVD?

[laserfan]

I'd re-done a subtitle to fit the 2.40 frame and my 'scope screen.
After BD-RB has completed, simply replace the appropriate .SUB with the new one in the WORKFILES folder. Then restart BD-RB again
Worked great, thanks, but I noticed something odd in the log file: if you look first at the end of the complete re-encoding, notice that the REBUILD phase at 03:16:59 this morning, which resulted in a 25Gb fileset, appears to have taken just 10 seconds!?

Then I replaced the subtitle, and the subsequent rebuild not only accounts for the (correct) amount of time it took i.e. 20 minutes, but it also notes all the rebuilds which the initial process notes only "Rebuilding BD file Structure". Not an issue for my disk of course, but I thought I should bring it to your attention jdobbs:

[14:12:58] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: MEMOIRS_OF_A_GEISHA
- Input BD size: 39.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:29:51.674]
- Target BD size: 23.44 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:12:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:12:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [14:29:46] Reencoding: VID_00011 (1 of 14)
- [14:29:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 208,800 frames
- Bitrate: 17,158 Kbs
- [14:29:46] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:55:31] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:12:33] Video Encode complete
- [01:12:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:12:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:29:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [01:29:37] Reencoding: VID_00081 (2 of 14)
- [01:29:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
- Bitrate: 8,686 Kbs
- [01:29:37] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:30:16] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:31:20] Video Encode complete
- [01:31:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:31:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:31:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00091]
- [01:31:46] Reencoding: VID_00091 (3 of 14)
- [01:31:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 25,959 frames
- Bitrate: 3,186 Kbs
- [01:31:47] Reencoding: VID_00091, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:34:37] Reencoding: VID_00091, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:43:03] Video Encode complete
- [01:43:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:43:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:43:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [01:43:22] Reencoding: VID_00092 (4 of 14)
- [01:43:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 10,002 frames
- Bitrate: 3,248 Kbs
- [01:43:22] Reencoding: VID_00092, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:44:32] Reencoding: VID_00092, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:47:52] Video Encode complete
- [01:47:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:47:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:47:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
- [01:48:19] Reencoding: VID_00093 (5 of 14)
- [01:48:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 21,703 frames
- Bitrate: 3,293 Kbs
- [01:48:19] Reencoding: VID_00093, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:50:49] Reencoding: VID_00093, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:58:11] Video Encode complete
- [01:58:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:58:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:58:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [01:58:44] Reencoding: VID_00094 (6 of 14)
- [01:58:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 22,213 frames
- Bitrate: 3,303 Kbs
- [01:58:44] Reencoding: VID_00094, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:01:19] Reencoding: VID_00094, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:08:49] Video Encode complete
- [02:08:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:08:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:08:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [02:09:31] Reencoding: VID_00095 (7 of 14)
- [02:09:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 29,329 frames
- Bitrate: 3,220 Kbs
- [02:09:32] Reencoding: VID_00095, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:12:56] Reencoding: VID_00095, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:22:53] Video Encode complete
- [02:22:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:22:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:23:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
- [02:23:27] Reencoding: VID_00096 (8 of 14)
- [02:23:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 17,800 frames
- Bitrate: 3,231 Kbs
- [02:23:27] Reencoding: VID_00096, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:25:29] Reencoding: VID_00096, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:31:24] Video Encode complete
- [02:31:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:31:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:31:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00097]
- [02:31:48] Reencoding: VID_00097 (9 of 14)
- [02:31:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 14,744 frames
- Bitrate: 3,284 Kbs
- [02:31:49] Reencoding: VID_00097, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:33:31] Reencoding: VID_00097, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:38:29] Video Encode complete
- [02:38:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:38:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:38:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00098]
- [02:38:52] Reencoding: VID_00098 (10 of 14)
- [02:38:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 15,273 frames
- Bitrate: 3,259 Kbs
- [02:38:52] Reencoding: VID_00098, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:40:36] Reencoding: VID_00098, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:45:37] Video Encode complete
- [02:45:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:45:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:45:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00099]
- [02:45:55] Reencoding: VID_00099 (11 of 14)
- [02:45:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 10,729 frames
- Bitrate: 3,230 Kbs
- [02:45:55] Reencoding: VID_00099, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:47:11] Reencoding: VID_00099, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:50:47] Video Encode complete
- [02:50:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:50:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:50:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [02:51:10] Reencoding: VID_00100 (12 of 14)
- [02:51:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 18,116 frames
- Bitrate: 3,215 Kbs
- [02:51:11] Reencoding: VID_00100, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:53:18] Reencoding: VID_00100, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:59:30] Video Encode complete
- [02:59:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:59:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:59:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [02:59:56] Reencoding: VID_00101 (13 of 14)
- [02:59:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 17,482 frames
- Bitrate: 3,255 Kbs
- [02:59:56] Reencoding: VID_00101, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:02:03] Reencoding: VID_00101, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:08:00] Video Encode complete
- [03:08:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:08:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:08:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
- [03:08:16] Reencoding: VID_00103 (14 of 14)
- [03:08:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,000 frames
- Bitrate: 13,506 Kbs
- [03:08:16] Reencoding: VID_00103, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:10:29] Reencoding: VID_00103, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:16:54] Video Encode complete
- [03:16:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:16:54] Multiplexing M2TS
[03:16:59]PHASE ONE complete
[03:16:59]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [03:16:59] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[03:17:09] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[03:17:09]JOB: MEMOIRS_OF_A_GEISHA finished.
-----------------------
[08:59:00] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: MEMOIRS_OF_A_GEISHA
- Input BD size: 39.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:29:51.674]
- Target BD size: 23.44 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[08:59:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[08:59:04]PHASE ONE complete
[08:59:04]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:59:04] Rebuilding stream 00011 [1 of 14]
- [09:17:01] Rebuilding stream 00081 [2 of 14]
- [09:17:03] Rebuilding stream 00091 [3 of 14]
- [09:17:20] Rebuilding stream 00092 [4 of 14]
- [09:17:27] Rebuilding stream 00093 [5 of 14]
- [09:17:42] Rebuilding stream 00094 [6 of 14]
- [09:17:58] Rebuilding stream 00095 [7 of 14]
- [09:18:18] Rebuilding stream 00096 [8 of 14]
- [09:18:30] Rebuilding stream 00097 [9 of 14]
- [09:18:40] Rebuilding stream 00098 [10 of 14]
- [09:18:51] Rebuilding stream 00099 [11 of 14]
- [09:19:00] Rebuilding stream 00100 [12 of 14]
- [09:19:13] Rebuilding stream 00101 [13 of 14]
- [09:19:26] Rebuilding stream 00103 [14 of 14]
- [09:19:37] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[09:19:43] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:19:43]JOB: MEMOIRS_OF_A_GEISHA finished.

FWIW I see in Windows log that my system went Idle and entered Sleep mode at 03:19:05 AM.

[Capsbackup]

Is it happening on more than one DVD?

I have not tried this Alternate output on any other's lately, but it has happened on all 7 episodes I tried that I am reporting currently. I will try another disc or two and see if I have similar results or success!

[k-c-ksum]

Nothing changed in that area between those versions. Secondary video is encoded as it is defined in the source CLPI file. Generally if the primary is interlaced (e.g. 1080i), the secondary will be also. What disc are you reencoding?

38.09 same thing with the Bourne Indentity. secondary video gets encoded interlaced

[jdobbs]

38.09 same thing with the Bourne Indentity. secondary video gets encoded interlaced I'll check it out...

[meadrocks]

Strange, since I upgraded to 38.09 when I do movie only to BD-5 I only get a BDMV folder, no certificate folder. I've tried it with Strict on, & Keep Only BDMV/Certificate, but still no cert folder. I'm trying now w/ Strict turned off. I don't do any hidden opts, basically run it stock. Here's the current status file.

[Status]
LABEL=ANIMAL_HOUSE_GLO
VERSION=v0.38.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30723422208
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30723422208
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.152524875395548
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
[50201]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=1100000000000000000000

[jdobbs]

38.05 - secondary video encoded as progressive (progressive source)
38.08 - secondary video encoded as interlaced (progressive source) I just tested this, and on my system with a progressive secondary source it is properly detecting the type of source and it is encoding as progressive.

Can you post the command line used when the secondary is being encoded?

[k-c-ksum]

I just tested this, and on my system with a progressive secondary source it is properly detecting the type of source and it is encoding as progressive.

Can you post the command line used when the secondary is being encoded?

the framerate of the reencode is 23.976 but flagged as interlaced.

i'll run the encode again and post the cl

[jdobbs]

the framerate of the reencode is 23.976 but flagged as interlaced.

i'll run the encode again and post the cl I'm not sure what you are using to show it -- but it can be completely normal if pulldown is in effect.

[jdobbs]

Strange, since I upgraded to 38.09 when I do movie only to BD-5 I only get a BDMV folder, no certificate folder. I've tried it with Strict on, & Keep Only BDMV/Certificate, but still no cert folder. I'm trying now w/ Strict turned off. I don't do any hidden opts, basically run it stock. Here's the current status file.

[Status]
LABEL=ANIMAL_HOUSE_GLO
VERSION=v0.38.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30723422208
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30723422208
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.152524875395548
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
[50201]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=1100000000000000000000 If you are outputting to BD-5/9 and strict AVCHD is selected (the default) -- there should be no CERTIFICATE folder. That's how it's always been. The only difference is that strict AVCHD is now the default (since v0.38.7) .

[jdobbs]

Then I replaced the subtitle, and the subsequent rebuild not only accounts for the (correct) amount of time it took i.e. 20 minutes, but it also notes all the rebuilds which the initial process notes only "Rebuilding BD file Structure". That's not unusual when doing a full backup. Most of the muxing is done as individual M2TS/CLPI pairs are encoded and processed, then they are moved into the output folder during the rebuild (and no longer exist in the WORKFILES folder).

When you restart, they have to be individually muxed again. That's why it is best to let the job finish first and then restart when you are replacing a stream. Otherwise you may replace the audio or sub file -- but later find that the original one still there in your output.

[k-c-ksum]

I'm not sure what you are using to show it -- but it can be completely normal if pulldown is in effect.

opening the original in bdrb shows the secondard as 480p vc1
opening the reencode shows it as 480i avc

opening the m2ts re-encode in tsmuxer shows them as 480i 23.976


heres the cl of the first secondary vid.

all i changed in this encode was the speed

"E:\BD_Rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "E:\TEMP\BLU_RE-ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00009_2.AVS"
--preset ultrafast --cabac --bframes 3 --b-pyramid none --qpmin=0 --slow-firstpass --crf 25 --level 3.2
--sar 10:11 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 12000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1
--pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 3500 --tff --threads auto --thread-input
--stats "C:\TEMP\BLU_RE-ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00009_2.AVS.264.stats"
--pass 1 --output "E:\TEMP\BLU_RE-ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00009_2.AVS.264"

[laserfan]

That's not unusual when doing a full backup. Most of the muxing is done as individual M2TS/CLPI pairs are encoded and processed, then they are moved into the output folder during the rebuild (and no longer exist in the WORKFILES folder).

When you restart, they have to be individually muxed again. That's why it is best to let the job finish first and then restart when you are replacing a stream. Otherwise you may replace the audio or sub file -- but later find that the original one still there in your output.
Thanks--not sure I understand yet. I was puzzled that while numerous, long "Rebuilding..." tasks appeared in the log after I'd restarted the project, there were no such entries on the initial job. So you're saying that's normal, that in the first go-around the "Rebuilding stream..." entries are not there because the rebuilding (muxing I assume) was done on-the-fly e.g. "Multiplexing M2TS"? So that in the first go-round the "Rebuilding BD file Structure" that took only 10 seconds was just finalizing a few of the small files? Guess that would make sense (and obviously I don't understand what happens in "PHASE TWO - Rebuild") firstly or secondly. :o

[jdobbs]

Thanks--not sure I understand yet. I was puzzled that while numerous, long "Rebuilding..." tasks appeared in the log after I'd restarted the project, there were no such entries on the initial job. So you're saying that's normal, that in the first go-around the "Rebuilding stream..." entries are not there because the rebuilding (muxing I assume) was done on-the-fly e.g. "Multiplexing M2TS"? So that in the first go-round the "Rebuilding BD file Structure" that took only 10 seconds was just finalizing a few of the small files? Guess that would make sense (and obviously I don't understand what happens in "PHASE TWO - Rebuild") firstly or secondly. :o You'll see something like this in the log at the time the M2TS was being processed:

- [07:01:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00153]
- [07:02:02] Reencoding: VID_00153 (1 of 74)
- [07:02:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 426 frames
- Bitrate: 4,150 Kbs
- [07:02:02] Reencoding: VID_00153, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:02:15] Reencoding: VID_00153, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:02:36] Video Encode complete
- [07:02:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:02:37] Multiplexing M2TS

When you resume the second time, however, each of those individual items have to be multiplexed again (because the result was moved into the output BDMV/STREAM folder during rebuild on the first job). During rebuild of the second job -- the results will be moved again.

The process is really done this way just to save space. If you copied them rather than move them you'd require twice as much space (a copy in the WORKFILES and the output folders).

[colinhunt]

It would only happen on a full backup (not movie-only). The issue would manifest itself in menus (they wouldn't work). The problem was fixed in 0.38.8, so those wouldn't have any issues.
Thank you for the reply!

[laserfan]

...the result was moved into the output BDMV/STREAM folder during rebuild on the first job...
Ah, this is what I was looking for. All that the single, brief "Rebuilding..." log entry meant the first time-around was that BD-RB was merely moving the already-muxed files at the very end. Thank you.

[meadrocks]

If you are outputting to BD-5/9 and strict AVCHD is selected (the default) -- there should be no CERTIFICATE folder. That's how it's always been. The only difference is that strict AVCHD is now the default (since v0.38.7) .

So what defines when the cert folder is needed or not? Is it up to the BD player manufacturer?

[bikerdave001]

So what defines when the cert folder is needed or not? Is it up to the BD player manufacturer?

If the author backs this up, this is what he said in 2009:

jdobbs
4th July 2009, 21:50
BD-RB won't create a CERTIFICATE folder if it doesn't already exist in the RIP folder.

[omegaman7]

That sounds logical.

[jdobbs]

So what defines when the cert folder is needed or not? Is it up to the BD player manufacturer? No. It depends which standard is being used. The CERTIFICATE folder isn't a part of the AVCHD standard -- but it is a part of the Blu-Ray standard. It's always safer to stick with the AVCHD standard (when possible) when writing to DVD+-R.

AVCHD also has several other rules that "Strict AVCHD" follows -- for example it doesn't allow DTS for audio.

[omegaman7]

Thanks for the lesson JD. I was unaware. Now you know how green I am LOL!

[meadrocks]

No. It depends which standard is being used. The CERTIFICATE folder isn't a part of the AVCHD standard -- but it is a part of the Blu-Ray standard. It's always safer to stick with the AVCHD standard (when possible) when writing to DVD+-R.

AVCHD also has several other rules that "Strict AVCHD" follows -- for example it doesn't allow DTS for audio.

I have access to 3 BD players, a Panasonic BD80, A Sony BDP-S300 & a newer Sony. All 3 play disks with the certs folder. The Sony S301 does not play disks wo/ the certs folder. I even flashed the latest firmware on the S301, still won't play disks wo/ the certs folder.

[jdobbs]

I have access to 3 BD players, a Panasonic BD80, A Sony BDP-S300 & a newer Sony. All 3 play disks with the certs folder. The Sony S301 does not play disks wo/ the certs folder. I even flashed the latest firmware on the S301, still won't play disks wo/ the certs folder. Really? That's interesting. Some players will refuse to play BD-5/9 when it is there. I gave my S301 away a while back, but I'll try it on my S360.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Hi!

My S360 continues to happily play BD5s and BD9s containing "CERTIFICATE" folders...

[Capsbackup]

No. It depends which standard is being used. The CERTIFICATE folder isn't a part of the AVCHD standard -- but it is a part of the Blu-Ray standard. It's always safer to stick with the AVCHD standard (when possible) when writing to DVD+-R.

AVCHD also has several other rules that "Strict AVCHD" follows -- for example it doesn't allow DTS for audio.

Really? That's interesting. Some players will refuse to play BD-5/9 when it is there. I gave my S301 away a while back, but I'll try it on my S360.

Is this relevent to Movie only backups, and not full disc backups to BD5/9 ? I usually do full disc backups, and I have never selected "Strict AVCHD". Please clarify. :confused:

[jdobbs]

Is this relevent to Movie only backups, and not full disc backups to BD5/9 ? I usually do full disc backups, and I have never selected "Strict AVCHD". Please clarify. :confused:

The CERTIFICATE folder will always be there (assuming it is on the original) if doing a full backup. Strict AVCHD only applies to movie-only backups. AVCHD also doesn't support things like BD-J (java) that could be required for a full backup.

[thegame]

Hi jdobbs this is not a bug but I was wondering this for a while now, sorry if someone already asked, there are a lot of pages here now LOL, but I know I can tell BD-RB where to place the WORK folder, but can I tell BD-RB where to place the final build? mulitplexing could be done so much faster if it wasn't done in the same folder, same drive, so is it possible to have 3 settings? 1 for source, 2nd for WORK folder, and 3rd for final build? I would like to take advantage of all my large drives LOL, 2 500 GB's and 1 TB.

Thanks

[omegaman7]

LOL! I requested that in the request thread. I'm sure he'll get to it ;)

[jdobbs]

I've gotten a lot of requests for that -- but honestly it really won't save much time (if any at all). If you're lucky you'd cut 5-10 minutes off the overall job time. The only benefit I might see is if your working disc is close to full.

[thegame]

I've gotten a lot of requests for that -- but honestly it really won't save much time (if any at all). If you're lucky you'd cut 5-10 minutes off the overall job time. The only benefit I might see is if your working disc is close to full.

OK, well I just thought I would ask, because I see a big time difference when I work between drives, less strain on just 1 drive doing everything, but I have a QUAD Core with 8 GB's RAM running Win 7 Pro(NO over clocking here) so my back ups do not take long at all anyways, just thought it would be nice taking some of the pressure of 1 drive and spreading it out, like I do with any project I do.

Thanks again for the fast response jdobbs.

[worknstiff]

@jdobbs: RE:The only benefit I might see is if your working disc is close to full.

I can think of another benefit, have you ever looked at how fragmented the final output folder is? On mine I have seen it at 100% fragmentation quite a few times, especially if you are using a smallish drive for a working folder. I use a 120gig and I wonder if it makes the burn take longer because the data is so scattered out. I have been moving the BD folders to another drive before burning just to make it easier. Even when you rip the BD, it's comes out all fragged to pieces and then you mux and remux and the files are scattered all over the drive even more. Many thanks for the great program, worknstiff

[laserfan]

I too have argued in the past for a separate drive such that reading-from then writing-to can occur on different drives, for both reduction of "thrashing" and speed improvement.

But I can see, given what was posted a day or two ago by jdobbs to me in response to restarting a project and remuxing, that it might be (very) nontrivial to implement. :o

[jdobbs]

I too have argued in the past for a separate drive such that reading-from then writing-to can occur on different drives, for both reduction of "thrashing" and speed improvement.

But I can see, given what was posted a day or two ago by jdobbs to me in response to restarting a project and remuxing, that it might be (very) nontrivial to implement. :o Exactly. The definition of "output" isn't exact. If you do most of the muxing during processing of individual segments -- at what point is it temporary storage as compared to "output". Changing that method of processing could double the required available storage space. That's a lot of work, storage needed and risk (from changes) to save 5 minutes of processing time. I also have to dismiss the "thrashing" arguments most of the time... discs are going to "thrash" regardless of how you do it. There's a lot of data movement when you're working with video sizes of this magnitude.

[Ch3vr0n]

i can understand that, nevertheless it would still be nice if you could add that multi requested different target for source, temp & output drive :D I know i would appreciate it alot :)

[laserfan]

it would still be nice if you could add that multi requested different target for source, temp & output
Well, DVD-RB works that way, but then DVD is a different animal altogether (and ferocity i.e. size) too. ;)

[Ch3vr0n]

Well, DVD-RB works that way, but then DVD is a different animal altogether (and ferocity i.e. size) too. ;)

last time i checked that's irrelevant. This is the BD-RB thread, not DVD-RB. BD-RB doesnt

[sonate]

[20:34:17] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: DAS_BOOT
- Input BD size: 45.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:23.878]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[20:34:24] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:34:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [20:34:25] Reencoding: VID_00021 (1 of 2)
- [20:34:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [20:34:25] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:34:29] Video Encode complete
- [20:34:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00021_4352.AVS]
[20:34:31] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted


Tried uninstalling Haali and reinstalling, but that didn't help. Inspect .exe gives an OK for everything. Is there a special setup procedure for haalli other then the default?

[jdobbs]

[20:34:17] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: DAS_BOOT
- Input BD size: 45.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:23.878]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[20:34:24] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:34:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [20:34:25] Reencoding: VID_00021 (1 of 2)
- [20:34:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24 frames
- [20:34:25] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:34:29] Video Encode complete
- [20:34:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00021_4352.AVS]
[20:34:31] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted


Tried uninstalling Haali and reinstalling, but that didn't help. Inspect .exe gives an OK for everything. Is there a special setup procedure for haalli other then the default? I don't think HAALI is the issue. It would more likely be problems in nicaudio.dll. I ran into a couple of DTS streams that it couldn't decode -- but I created a workaround using DirectShowSource. Is this a DTS source?

Can up post the contents of AUD_00021_4352.AVS?

[Capsbackup]

I have found something strange regarding a full backup to BD5 of the movie Limitless. I am using BD-RBV03809. The movie is a multi-m2ts type, with the original audio being DTS-HD Master 5.1. The movie backs up successfully, but I notice the audio is listed as Stereo and not multi-channel on playback with my Sony S360 and Pioneer receiver. BDInfo reports DD 640kbps, 5.1 for the main movie mpls, 00000.mpls; 1:44:46. However, the first .m2ts listed, 00000.m2ts, which is also the starting .m2ts for this movie, and it's associated 00001.mpls, has the audio at DD 640kbps, 2.0. :confused: There is no other .mpls for the remaining individual multiple .m2ts files for this movie.
Now if I load the 00000.mpls into tsMuxeR, it reports the audio as being DD 640kbps, 2.0. If I load each .m2ts into tsMuxeR, they report DD 640kbps, 2.0.
So I am not sure why, but this movie did not convert properly the original DTS HD Master to DD 5.1 640kbps.

EDIT:
After manually reencoding all .dts audio with Aften that BD-RB demuxed to the Workfiles folder, renaming each file to the appropriate corresponding AUD_xxxx.xxxx, and substituting them for the BD-RB reencoded 2.0 channel files, letting BD-RB do a rebuild of a previously started project, the new backup has DD 5.1, 640kbps AC3.
I think something must not be right with the .dts convert to DD 5.1 AC3. :(

[sonate]

I don't think HAALI is the issue. It would more likely be problems in nicaudio.dll. I ran into a couple of DTS streams that it couldn't decode -- but I created a workaround using DirectShowSource. Is this a DTS source?

Can up post the contents of AUD_00021_4352.AVS?


AUD_001 AC3, Multi-CH, English nothing else which makes me think I have something set wrong. Since I have never re-encoded audio in the past for bd-25, this problem is new to me.

[setarip_old]

@Capsbackup

Hi! After manually reencoding all .dts audio with Aften that BD-RB demuxed to the Workfiles folder, renaming each file to the appropriate corresponding AUD_xxxx.xxxx, and substituting them for the BD-RB reencoded 2.0 channel files, letting BD-RB do a rebuild of a previously started project, the new backup has DD 5.1, 640kbps AC3. Does your revised version now still fit on a BD5?

[Capsbackup]

@Capsbackup

Hi! Does your revised version now still fit on a BD5?

Yes, the file size did not change since the audio was 640kbps, but only 2.0. The new audio is still 640kbps, but 5.1, with the exact same file size.

[jdobbs]

Yes, the file size did not change since the audio was 640kbps, but only 2.0. The new audio is still 640kbps, but 5.1, with the exact same file size. Hmmm.... can you post the contents of the AVS file? It's possible that something is up when using DirectShowSource() instead of NicAudio()... By default FFDSHOW converts to 2.0 via the mixer -- but I turn it off just before encoding and then back to its original state after. It worked correctly in my tests, but it's possible something could be going wrong there.

[jdobbs]

AUD_001 AC3, Multi-CH, English nothing else which makes me think I have something set wrong. Since I have never re-encoded audio in the past for bd-25, this problem is new to me. It would be very helpful if you'd post the contents of the AVS as requested.

[sonate]

It would be very helpful if you'd post the contents of the AVS as requested.

Sorry

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\accessories\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00021.track_4352.ac3").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

[Wolfe999]

Hi, jdobbs,
Don't know if this is a bug, though it's the first time it happens to me.

Today I "installed" version 38.09. I converted Casablanca to Movie-Only BD-9. In setup I have ticked:
- Use DEINTERLACER...
- Do not reencode AC3 (as the movie has all the languages in mono)
- Strict AVCHD (as always)
- Movie Only Playback loop.
- Remove WORKFILES...
- Use x264's internal LAVF for decoding.

And a custom target of 8300 GB.

I've always used a similar setup, always keeping two languages and just 1 sub. But today the reencode I got was one with the structure of a BluRay, including all the folders and subfolders of a BR. Both my standalone players Sony and LG read the DVD, but the LG showed on the screen that it recognized it as a "BluRay", when always that I insert an AVCHD it shows that.

Then I decided to pass the reencode from BD-RB through multiAVCHD 3.0 and I got the "right" result.

Hope you can shed some light on this issue and tell me if I may have some trouble with other SA players for them to read this disc.

Thanx :)

[Ch3vr0n]

Thats normal, a BD-9 IS a blu-ray structure on a DVD. If you want a movie only DVD you need to use the alternate move output mode

[Capsbackup]

Hmmm.... can you post the contents of the AVS file? It's possible that something is up when using DirectShowSource() instead of NicAudio()... By default FFDSHOW converts to 2.0 via the mixer -- but I turn it off just before encoding and then back to its original state after. It worked correctly in my tests, but it's possible something could be going wrong there.

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Ed\Desktop\BD-RBV03809C\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("00000.track_4352.dts").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

Does not look like DirectShowSource() is used. :confused:

[jdobbs]

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Ed\Desktop\BD-RBV03809C\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("00000.track_4352.dts").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

Does not look like DirectShowSource() is used. :confused: Ok, I'm confused... I'll recheck, but I'm pretty sure it should use DirectShowSource() for DTS on a multipart encode???

[jdobbs]

Sorry

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\accessories\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00021.track_4352.ac3").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))I'll have to try and get my hands on 'DAS_BOOT" -- that is a very short section (24 frames), I'm wondering if the audio even exists...

[sonate]

JDobbs, about the aften error:

I've remember first trying this on an earlier build using "the prestige" and ended up with the same error message. Since then I kept HD audio.

FWIW, here's the ini in case I have something set wrong. In the audio encoding options in setup I believe I had the "do not re-encode AC3 (bluray only)" and "use 448 kb for AC3 encoding" checked.

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.9
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=50500
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=R:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\TEMP\BD_REBUILDER\WORKING FOLDER\

[Wolfe999]

Thats normal, a BD-9 IS a blu-ray structure on a DVD. If you want a movie only DVD you need to use the alternate move output mode

Thanx, Ch3vron. I know that even though they are burnt on a DVD, they have a BluRay structure. What I meant is that my LG always showed them as AVCHD, not BluRay... But I think I know where was the problem.

As I always demux the movie through HD-DVD Blu-Ray Stream Extract to check which language is Spanish (Castillian) and Spanish (Latino), (as lately almost every BluRay comes with both) and the same for the subs, I think I forgot to check movie only and that gave me the BluRay result. In any case, I will check it later.

Thanx again :)

[glood1]

HI

i have a new PC : I7 intel 2600 K @overclocking a 4.43 ghz
16 mo ram and sdd hyper 240 go
i'm watercooling

I m' tow 2 pass in slow mode with CRF ABR diseabled
(it' s the best mode ?)
i dont understand why my eight core Cpu are only 30% load ?
cpu is 44 %
fps 72.4 in process



in video configuration in FFDSHOW.. :
what's the best codec libavocdec for avc
or ffmpeg ?


in audio configuration in FFDSHOW
what's the difference between liba 52 en libavcodec
it important ?

thanks for you tips

[jdobbs]

HI

i have a new PC : I7 intel 2600 K @overclocking a 4.43 ghz
16 mo ram and sdd hyper 240 go
i'm watercooling

I m' tow 2 pass in slow mode with CRF ABR diseabled
(it' s the best mode ?)
i dont understand why my eight core Cpu are only 30% load ?
cpu is 44 %
fps 72.4 in process



in video configuration in FFDSHOW.. :
what's the best codec libavocdec for avc
or ffmpeg ?


in audio configuration in FFDSHOW
what's the difference between liba 52 en libavcodec
it important ?

thanks for you tips I think what is happening is that your processor is encoding so fast that the frame serving (AVISYNTH, HAALI, and FFDSHOW) can't keep up with it -- that's why your usage peaks at 30%. Just as a test, try setting "Use X264's Internal LAVF decoding" in the SETUP menu and see if that gives you more speed.

The two MPG decoder options just use different libraries within FFDSHOW. From my experience I don't see any difference between "libavcodec" and "libmpeg2" in terms of speed or quality. But that could change depending upon the processor -- so I'd suggest you try both. Of course the only time it will be used is when your sources is MPEG-2.

As for "liba52" and "libavcodec" for AC3 -- I've always left it at the default (liba52) so I can't really comment. I'd guess it'll be more-or-less the same answer.

[jdobbs]

JDobbs, about the aften error:

I've remember first trying this on an earlier build using "the prestige" and ended up with the same error message. Since then I kept HD audio.

FWIW, here's the ini in case I have something set wrong. In the audio encoding options in setup I believe I had the "do not re-encode AC3 (bluray only)" and "use 448 kb for AC3 encoding" checked.

[Options]
VERSION=0.38.0.9
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
...
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
...
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=50500
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=R:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\TEMP\BD_REBUILDER\WORKING FOLDER\ In this INF you definitely had AC3 encoding turned on.

[sonate]

In this INF you definitely had AC3 encoding turned on.

It should be turned on, right?

I'm running a few other movies to see if this happens all the time. I set the output size to something above 50 gb so I wouldn't have to wait for a video re-encode. I'm assuming this won't have any bearing on the command to convert HD audio to AC3, and you will tell me otherwise if my assumption is wrong.

[sonate]

In this INF you definitely had AC3 encoding turned on.


Well interesting........ tried Deja-vu no error message but the application didn't continue after BD reb said audio encoding started. Question, do I need to install another encoder for the directshow workaround?

the applicable avs:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("D:\Temp\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=DirectShowSource("D:\TEMP\BD_REBUILDER\WORKING FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00014_4352.mkv").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

Also tried "midnight express" which recoded the Dolby trueHD
into AC3 480kbs perfectly. So at least now I know it works on my system.

[jdobbs]

Well interesting........ tried Deja-vu no error message but the application didn't continue after BD reb said audio encoding started. Question, do I need to install another encoder for the directshow workaround?

the applicable avs:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("D:\Temp\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=DirectShowSource("D:\TEMP\BD_REBUILDER\WORKING FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00014_4352.mkv").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

Also tried "midnight express" which recoded the Dolby trueHD
into AC3 480kbs perfectly. So at least now I know it works on my system. I don't know what you mean "didn't continue after BD reb said audio encoding started" ? Are you sure you gave it enough time to complete? Did you get an abort or error messages?

No you shouldn't need anything extra for the workaround.

Will the MKV file (AUD_00014_4352.mkv) play if you double-click it?

[sonate]

I don't know what you mean "didn't continue after BD reb said audio encoding started" ? Are you sure you gave it enough time to complete? Did you get an abort or error messages?

No you shouldn't need anything extra for the workaround.

Will the MKV file (AUD_00014_4352.mkv) play if you double-click it?

It's been here for over 40 min " - [18:03:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)" No file in the workfolder has been updated since then.

No error message, and I aborted and restarted a few times to see what would happen. The .mkv file does play.

I'd post an image of the folder, but Doom9 is rejecting every image file I try to upload.

[stereo55]

No problems here with the new 38.0.9 build . Three Blu's copied thus far with it (movie only) with DTS-DTS/HD everything went perfect and Blu's looks great . Seems the new build de-codes faster too (maybe my imagination ?) , but my files sizes are all about the same and the decoding just seemed to blaze through these last few movies (with no firmware update on my burner) .

Anyway ....Cudo's to the new build !

[jdobbs]

No problems here with the new 38.0.9 build . Three Blu's copied thus far with it (movie only) with DTS-DTS/HD everything went perfect and Blu's looks great . Seems the new build de-codes faster too (maybe my imagination ?) , but my files sizes are all about the same and the decoding just seemed to blaze through these last few movies (with no firmware update on my burner) .

Anyway ....Cudo's to the new build !Thanks. It's nice to get some good feedback. The next release should include "Menus and Movie Only" (blanking) mode and the ability to blank sections selectively.
:)

[omegaman7]

Incredible Jdobbs! Expect another donation soon then. I've been wondering all day what I'm gonna do with "Drag me to Hell". They didn't employ seamless branching, so there are 2 very large titles on the disc. I'd prefer blank the theatrical title ;)

[jdobbs]

Incredible Jdobbs! Expect another donation soon then. I've been wondering all day what I'm gonna do with "Drag me to Hell". They didn't employ seamless branching, so there are 2 very large titles on the disc. I'd prefer blank the theatrical title ;) So they have two complete independent titles? That's a pretty poor way to author it... but I guess they figure they have way more space on a BD-50 than is ever needed.

[omegaman7]

THat's exactly what I thought. Pretty poor. Perhaps lazy. Don't know about the coding involved. It is currently an obstacle for people who like to backup too. Perhaps that's why. Yes, they are independent. That's confirmed. I looked right at the files. They should have used seamless branching, and added some more extra features. I love gag reels!

[setarip_old]

A review from "Blu-ray.com" seems to indicate that MOST scenes are different in the two versions (as opposed to many other two-version videos with some additions only to a few scenes), making it necessaryto have two completely separate versions on the disc:

Please note the Blu-ray edition includes both the theatrical and unrated versions of the film. While both cuts are essentially the same length, the unrated version injects more blood into the proceedings and enhances some of the film's grosser gags. Alas, the results are a mixed bag. Some scenes have been improved (Christine's nosebleed and her fight with the old woman among them) but others are worse for the wear (a falling anvil produces a more cartoonish death, an animal sacrifice nets some over-the-top spatter, and a few CG effects are less effective).

[omegaman7]

Cheers! That explains it well ;)

[Sharc]

...the next release should include "menus and movie only" (blanking) mode and the ability to blank sections selectively.
:)
:) :)

[dfsooner]

The next release should include "Menus and Movie Only" (blanking) mode and the ability to blank sections selectively.
:)

Wow. I'm anxious to see that.

I've been using Clown_BD BD Copier to do that but it has some bugs which jump up and bite me occasionally.

[dfsooner]

So they have two complete independent titles? That's a pretty poor way to author it... but I guess they figure they have way more space on a BD-50 than is ever needed.

Both unrated and theatrical versions appear on many titles. That's why they segment the movies - so they can use segments in both, insert additional segments or leave out segments in the various versions without duplicating the footage.

[jdobbs]

Both unrated and theatrical versions appear on many titles. That's why they segment the movies - so they can use segments in both, insert additional segments or leave out segments in the various versions without duplicating the footage. You missed the point.

What is unusual is that in the example he gave they aren't segmented -- there are two complete movies with no shared segments.

[Rich86]

I've run into a problem with the "The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest" blu-ray when converting it to DVD-5. I am including both the swedish and english audio tracks, as well as the english subtitles in the conversion. The resulting DVD-5 has both audio tracks and the subtitles, but displays the subtitles out of sync (ahead of the audio). This occurs regardless of which audio track I am playing back, or where I play it back (computer or standalone players). The audio and video are in sync just fine.
There is something a little unusual in the source blu-ray that maybe contributes to this issue (this is the 3rd title in my Dragon Tattoo Trilogy blu-ray boxset). The opening scene is of the "Music Box" logo - with no audio track at all (not just silent - there is no audio track running or indicated). The audio track kicks in shortly after that first logo, when the "Yellow Bird" logo starts. That amount of time with no audio track active is approximately the amount of out of sync I am seeing in the output. Is it possible the subtitle synchronization drives off the start of the video and the audio track actually initializing and starting after the first brief logo scene throws it off?
Note that the defaults I selected (swedish audio + english subs) did not work either, in case that is relevant (maybe another result of no audio track or subtitles existing for the first scene?).
The original disc plays fine. The ripped blu-ray title plays fine off the hard disc. I am running the latest 38.09 version under Win7/64 on a quad core tower.
Maybe I did something wrong, so any advice is appreciated.

[23:19:40] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: TGW_KICKED_THE_HORNETS_NEST
- Input BD size: 18.71 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:27:10.947]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
- Audio [1] set to default.
[23:19:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:19:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [23:24:02] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 3)
- [23:24:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 240 frames
- Bitrate: 200 Kbs
- [23:24:02] Reencoding: VID_00001
- [23:24:14] Video Encode complete
- [23:24:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:28:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:28:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [23:32:25] Reencoding: VID_00000 (2 of 3)
- [23:32:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 211,394 frames
- Bitrate: 3,207 Kbs
- [23:32:25] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [02:55:37] Video Encode complete
- [02:55:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:55:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [02:55:37] Reencoding: VID_00017 (3 of 3)
- [02:55:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 97 frames
- Bitrate: 200 Kbs
- [02:55:37] Reencoding: VID_00017
- [02:55:41] Video Encode complete
- [02:55:41] Multiplexing M2TS
[02:55:41]PHASE ONE complete
[02:55:41]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:55:41] Rebuilding stream 00001 [1 of 3]
- [02:55:41] Rebuilding stream 00000 [2 of 3]
- [02:55:41] Rebuilding stream 00017 [3 of 3]
- [02:55:41] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [02:56:33] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [02:57:17] Starting MPLEX.
- [03:00:49] Multiplexing 1 subtitles into stream.
- [03:03:48] Building DVD File Structure.
[03:06:54] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

[jdobbs]

@Rich86

Does the audio appear to be in-sync?

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Does the audio appear to be in-sync?

Yes - the audio and video appear perfectly in sync . . . only the subtitles display is off.
The opening scene with no audio track is 10 seconds long. The subtitles display 10 seconds ahead of the proper audio/video scene afterwards.

[setarip_old]

@Rich86

Hi!

For kicks and giggles, try the following:

Regarding your specific problem, try loading ONLY the main movie .M2TS file into tsMuxeR and save as a "new" BluRay "package" - and then use it with BD Rebuilder.

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Hi!

For kicks and giggles, try the following:

Regarding your specific problem, try loading ONLY the main movie .M2TS file into tsMuxeR and save as a "new" BluRay "package" - and then use it with BD Rebuilder.

I confess to being one of those folks who relies on jdobbs program package for most everything. I know how to install, setup and select options within BD-RB, but I do not believe I know how to do what you are suggesting.

[Capsbackup]

@Rich86;
You might try looking at the other available playlists listed within the alternate movie choices, and if there is one that is close to the length of the one BD-RB defaults to, try selecting that one and run a new backup. :)

[Rich86]

@Rich86;
You might try looking at the other available playlists listed within the alternate movie choices, and if there is one that is close to the length of the one BD-RB defaults to, try selecting that one and run a new backup. :)

Yes - thanks for the suggestion - I generally do that to make sure I have the correct one, and this title only has 1 playlist listed.

And some additional info . . .
the very first file listed in the log above (Vid_00001) IS the file with that opening "Music Box" logo and when viewing it within BDRB indicates no audio nor subtitles in the file, so it is consistent. Unfortunately, when I try to preview the next file (Vid_00000) where the movie starts with the "Yellow Bird" logo MPC greys out audio and subtitles in the menu and simply uses the first audio file with no subtitles regardless of what I specify as defaults, so I cannot see if the subtitles are correctly sync'ed there.

[Capsbackup]

The work-around for now, until jdobbs can correct BD-RB, is to follow setarip_old's suggestion. Download tsMuxeR, http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR, load the 00000.m2ts file from the movie into tsMuxer, select Bluray for the output, select/deselect any audio/subtitles you desire and save to a new folder. Then direct BD-RB to perform a backup using this new Bluray folder you just created.

[Rich86]

The work-around for now, until jdobbs can correct BD-RB, is to follow setarip_old's suggestion. Download tsMuxeR, http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR, load the 00000.m2ts file from the movie into tsMuxer, select Bluray for the output, select/deselect any audio/subtitles you desire and save to a new folder. Then direct BD-RB to perform a backup using this new Bluray folder you just created.

Thanks for the steps and info - I will try that and see if it corrects the problem. Maybe the results of that test will assist jdobbs also.

Update: I ran tsMuxer as suggested creating a BD strcture with only the 00000 file - and ran that through BDRB - and the resulting DVD-5 has both audio tracks + subtitles and everything appears to be in sync. So apparently that first file #0001 in the playlist is what is causing the problem with BDRB syncing subtitles with the audio/video. Of course this new output DVD-5 isn't free of issues (original chapters gone, still doesn't set up the defaults I indicate in BDRB, and the dvd does not seem to end properly - but those could be the product of shoving a modified BD structure through BDRB).
I'm hoping this exercise provides jdobbs worthwhile info in analyzing and fixing the problem. All 3 of the Dragon Tattoo blu-rays include that opening logo scene with no audio track, so I expect the same problem will exist in all 3.
Thanks for the help.

[jdobbs]

opening the original in bdrb shows the secondard as 480p vc1
opening the reencode shows it as 480i avc

opening the m2ts re-encode in tsmuxer shows them as 480i 23.976


heres the cl of the first secondary vid.

all i changed in this encode was the speed

"E:\BD_Rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "E:\TEMP\BLU_RE-ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00009_2.AVS"
--preset ultrafast --cabac --bframes 3 --b-pyramid none --qpmin=0 --slow-firstpass --crf 25
--level 3.2 --sar 10:11 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 12000 --keyint 24
--min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 3500 --tff --threads auto
--thread-input --stats "C:\TEMP\BLU_RE-ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00009_2.AVS.264.stats"
--pass 1 --output "E:\TEMP\BLU_RE-ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00009_2.AVS.264"
Just wanted to give you an update. I did BOURNE SUPREMACY and for me the secondary channels encoded correctly (23.976, progressive). Are you sure your source isn't corrupted or has been modified by any preprocessing?

[setarip_old]

@Rich86

Glad to hear that my suggestion worked for you (as it had previously regarding this series of movies).

Just to let you know that, also via tsMuxer (with a little research on your part), you can use the original chapter settings, or default settings of every 5 minutes, or ANY chapter times that you'd care to set ;>}

[k-c-ksum]

Just wanted to give you an update. I did BOURNE SUPREMACY and for me the secondary channels encoded correctly (23.976, progressive). Are you sure your source isn't corrupted or has been modified by any preprocessing?

not that im aware of, same thing happened on The Bourne Identity, i ripped the disc, selecting anydvd to leave everything in place apart from bdlive.

opening the source shows is as 23.976 Progressive on the original rip, displayed in bdrb and tsmuxer but then interlaced on the re-encode :(

i'll try a movie from an alternate studio and see what happens there.

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Glad to hear that my suggestion worked for you (as it had previously regarding this series of movies).

Just to let you know that, also via tsMuxer (with a little research on your part), you can use the original chapter settings, or default settings of every 5 minutes, or ANY chapter times that you'd care to set ;>}

Well, I'm not sure what kind of research you are suggesting, but I can't see any options to retain the original chapter settings in tsmuxer. I see the every 5 minutes and custom and no chapters options only.

[jdobbs]

Well, I'm not sure what kind of research you are suggesting, but I can't see any options to retain the original chapter settings in tsmuxer. I see the every 5 minutes and custom and no chapters options only. I think it gathers the chapters is you open the playlist (MPLS) rather than the M2TS.

[JJB]

Well, I'm not sure what kind of research you are suggesting, but I can't see any options to retain the original chapter settings in tsmuxer. I see the every 5 minutes and custom and no chapters options only.



Download tsMuxeR.
Find the m2ts that hold main movie - could be 00001.m2ts - and find the according playlist - would be 00001.mpls.
Add only the playlist in tsMuxeR and the according m2ts will be imported.
Go to the Blu-ray tab at top of tsMuxeR and select "Custom chapters list".

Your done.

Edit: Sorry, got in late....

[Rich86]

I think it gathers the chapters is you open the playlist (MPLS) rather than the M2TS.

Yes - I can see where it loads the "custom chapters" box with the original chapters when you choose the playlist (00001).
However - it also includes the opening 10 second scene (00001.m2ts) which confounds BDRB afterwards when you select the playlist. The whole purpose of this exercise is to eliminate the first scene since it seems to cause BDRB to push subtitles out of sync for dvd-5 output. It seems to me that this will result in a blu-ray structure that looks exactly like what BDRB sees as the main movie if it just points to the original directory.
I tried to upload an image of the tsmux screen, but the website has decided it is not a valid image file for some reason (155kb, .jpg).

[jdobbs]

Yes - I can see where it loads the "custom chapters" box with the original chapters when you choose the playlist (00001).
However - it also includes the opening 10 second scene (00001.m2ts) which confounds BDRB afterwards when you select the playlist. The whole purpose of this exercise is to eliminate the first scene since it seems to cause BDRB to push subtitles out of sync for dvd-5 output. It seems to me that this will result in a blu-ray structure that looks exactly like what BDRB sees as the main movie if it just points to the original directory.
I tried to upload an image of the tsmux screen, but the website has decided it is not a valid image file for some reason (155kb, .jpg). Hmm... good point.

[Rich86]

Hmm... good point.

Have you had a chance to decide if the subtitle out of sync problem with DVD-5 output is fixable in BDRB? I realize it is probably an issue only with a small number of titles - BDRB has certainly been very reliable for me with DVD-5 output until the Dragon Tattoo BDs.

[setarip_old]

@Rich86 Yes - I can see where it loads the "custom chapters" box with the original chapters when you choose the playlist (00001).
However - it also includes the opening 10 second scene (00001.m2ts) The "new" movie-only Blu-ray that you created should only contain "00000.M2TS" and, likewise, "00000.mpls" and, if I remember correctly, should no longer include the problematic opening 10-11 second scene...

Here's a little "magic" regarding tsMuxer and chapters:

If you first load the original .MPLS into tsMuxer and then "Remove" it, you'll note that the original chapters remain listed.

If you then load the NEW .M2TS into tsMuxer, you'll see that the ORIGINAL chapters are still there - Then resave as Blu-ray ;>}

Note: - I haven't done this in quite a while, so, if loading the new M2TS DOESN'T retain the original chapters, start fresh and perform the same procedure starting with opening tsMuxer anew, load the original .MPLS, etc. ...

[Rich86]

@Rich86 The "new" movie-only Blu-ray that you created should only contain "00000.M2TS" and, likewise, "00000.mpls" and, if I remember correctly, should no longer include the problematic opening 10-11 second scene...

Here's a little "magic" regarding tsMuxer and chapters:

If you first load the original .MPLS into tsMuxer and then "Remove" it, you'll note that the original chapters remain listed.

If you then load the NEW .M2TS into tsMuxer, you'll see that the ORIGINAL chapters are still there - Then resave as Blu-ray ;>}

Note: - I haven't done this in quite a while, so, if loading the new M2TS DOESN'T retain the original chapters, start fresh and perform the same procedure starting with opening tsMuxer anew, load the original .MPLS, etc. ...



Very neat little trick.
Now another question:
Since these chapter designations from the playlist were related to the playlist which included that opening 10 second scene which we've now effectively deleted, should I assume all these chapter points being applied to only the 2nd video file from the playlist are 10 seconds off and try to adjust them down by 10 seconds each before I run tsmuxer again?

[jdobbs]

Have you had a chance to decide if the subtitle out of sync problem with DVD-5 output is fixable in BDRB? I realize it is probably an issue only with a small number of titles - BDRB has certainly been very reliable for me with DVD-5 output until the Dragon Tattoo BDs. It's easy enough to fix -- but unfortunately by doing so I'd probably cause other problems.

It's not unusual for audio to be delayed in the way you've described, and BD-RB corrects for it. But in most cases I don't believe the subtitles aren't delayed as well. In those cases adjusting the subtitles would make it off in the other direction.

I'll find some examples and see if I can spot where the behaviour is consistent.

[Rich86]

It's easy enough to fix -- but unfortunately by doing so I'd probably cause other problems.

It's not unusual for audio to be delayed in the way you've described, and BD-RB corrects for it. But in most cases I don't believe the subtitles aren't delayed as well. In those cases adjusting the subtitles would make it off in the other direction.

I'll find some examples and see if I can spot where the behaviour is consistent.

It almost seems like BDRB is initiating the subtitles timing based upon the overall playlist timing - rather than the audio from the specific video file the subtitles came from.

[jdobbs]

It almost seems like BDRB is initiating the subtitles timing based upon the overall playlist timing - rather than the audio from the specific video file the subtitles came from. The display times of the subtitles come from the PGS (subtitle file) itself. It actually has nothing to do with the audio presentation times. They are set by the original authoring.

[setarip_old]

@Rich86 Since these chapter designations from the playlist were related to the playlist which included that opening 10 second scene which we've now effectively deleted, should I assume all these chapter points being applied to only the 2nd video file from the playlist are 10 seconds off and try to adjust them down by 10 seconds each before I run tsmuxer again?
FIRST, try it just as I suggested...

[xterminater]

jdobbs, how are u doing? i have a question in one of my bluray. It has a 480p avc video in it along with a 1080p video, and it's a java bluray, how would I go and "blank" out the unneeded 480p to save bitrate. I'm guessing it's because it is a bluray+dvd+digital copy all in one disc. I read in the thread and I believe you are implementing a feature where you can do menu+main movie or the ability to blank out unecessary track now?

[Rich86]

The display times of the subtitles come from the PGS (subtitle file) itself. It actually has nothing to do with the audio presentation times. They are set by the original authoring.

I'm learning much here today . . so please bear with me . .

Is the PGS associated with a playlist - or a video file?
It would appear the PGS in question is associated with the main movie video file (0000.m2ts), but somehow being applied against the timing associated with the overall playlist (00001.mpls) which includes the 10 second long 00001.m2ts file ahead of the main movie? I was originally focused on the fact that that first 10 second file being played had no audio track as the source of the problem - but maybe the very existence at all of that 10 second .m2ts is the problem if the PGS is being timed to the overall playlist instead of specifically the main movie file it belongs to? Since the blu-ray plays the subtitles correctly, I'm assuming it is not an authoring error.
Just thinking it through out loud . . .

[Rich86]

@Rich86
FIRST, try it just as I suggested...

too late - I had decided that the 10 second adjustment on every chapter would be necessary and made them and reran tsmuxer. The resulting blu-ray formatted video looks correct - the chapters appear to be in the correct place when compared to the original blu-ray title. It would appear that the original chapter stops are established in relation to the overall playlist timing, but the subtitles (pgs) relate to the specific main movie video file.
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Update: I ran a test of this title to BD output also - simply selected the ripped BD directory as input and chose BD output for main movie title - that seems to work just fine (both audio tracks are there, subtitles are there, everything is in sync, defaults selected (swedish audio with english subtitles) showed up in the output files and work.
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Summary (the 3rd Dragon Tattoo BD): The subtitles sync problem appears to be restricted to DVD output from this BD source. The movie playlist (00001.mpls) includes 3 videos (m2ts files) including:
1. 00001.m2ts - an opening "Music Box" logo scene with no audio or subtitles lasting about 10 seconds
2. 00000.m2ts - the main movie beginning with the "Yellow Bird" logo including both swedish and english audio tracks and english subtitles
3. 00017.msts - a very brief closing logo scene
When BDRB processes this to DVD-5 output, the subtitles in the main movie are out of sync by approximately 10 seconds too early, which is the length of the opening 00001.m2ts video. It appears the subtitles pgs is being processed as though the entries relate to the total playlist in BDRB much like chapters, whereas the pgs entries appear to be tied to the 00000.m2ts video itself (resulting in subtitles appearing 10 seconds too early in this case).
Any audio or subtitles default selections made in BDRB are not honored either (I do not know if that is unique to this title being processed to DVD-5, but I can say default selections seem to work when processing to BD output).
I hope these notes are somewhat helpful to jdobbs when investigating the problem further.

[jdobbs]

Interesting... and helpful. That, of course, means that there has to be a timing glitch somewhere in the conversion.

[a.k.a.]

Hello,

Getting an all clear from Inspect.exe, but when I hit the Phase 2 / Rebuild process, MPLEX fails.

Here's the log:
[02:21:49] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: GREAT_MIGRATIONS_DISC_1
- Input BD size: 14.85 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:50:00.931]
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-9, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[02:21:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[02:21:53]PHASE ONE complete
[02:21:53]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:21:53] Rebuilding stream 00022 [1 of 1]
- [02:21:53] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [02:25:40] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [02:26:22] Starting MPLEX.
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MPLEX)
[02:30:56] - Failed to REBUILD

What other info do you want from me?

And in the meantime, is there another program I can run the Phase 1 Encoding / Temp folder output through to get a DVD9 burn at this point? Earlier today, I also tried a DVD9 conversion via multiAVCHD but am also throwing errors.

Thanks!

[a.k.a.]

The other thing to note is that BDRB has extracted only 1 of 3 episodes from the BD ISO listed above. (The last of 3 episodes.)

[jdobbs]

The other thing to note is that BDRB has extracted only 1 of 3 episodes from the BD ISO listed above. (The last of 3 episodes.)When you are doing a movie-only backup you are selecting a single playlist as "the movie" -- in order to do multiple episodes you have to select other playlists from the menu.

[sfcav]

I searched for a simple answer but didn't find one.

BD-RB works flawlessly with any BD or mkv file I throw at it, but I'm consistently having an audio sync issue with most of my captured 1080i mpg files. These files are 1080i ac3 mpg and they play fine on their own. However, I like converting them to 1080p and shrinking them to fit on DL or SL disks, which is where BD-RB comes in. I've tried numerous versions up to 3808, but still get what appears to be a several second difference between the audio and video. Using Handbreak, the files turn out fine but it takes several times longer than BD-RB.

Inspect reports the following:
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14 Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok


My settings are:

- Use Deinterlacer
- Do not reencode AC3

One post here indicated that certain Haali splitters may be an issue (most current?).

Thoughts or suggestions welcome :)

sfcav

[Rich86]

too late - I had decided that the 10 second adjustment on every chapter would be necessary and made them and reran tsmuxer. The resulting blu-ray formatted video looks correct - the chapters appear to be in the correct place when compared to the original blu-ray title. It would appear that the original chapter stops are established in relation to the overall playlist timing, but the subtitles (pgs) relate to the specific main movie video file.
--------------------------------------
Update: I ran a test of this title to BD output also - simply selected the ripped BD directory as input and chose BD output for main movie title - that seems to work just fine (both audio tracks are there, subtitles are there, everything is in sync, defaults selected (swedish audio with english subtitles) showed up in the output files and work.
--------------------------------------
Summary (the 3rd Dragon Tattoo BD): The subtitles sync problem appears to be restricted to DVD output from this BD source. The movie playlist (00001.mpls) includes 3 videos (m2ts files) including:
1. 00001.m2ts - an opening "Music Box" logo scene with no audio or subtitles lasting about 10 seconds
2. 00000.m2ts - the main movie beginning with the "Yellow Bird" logo including both swedish and english audio tracks and english subtitles
3. 00017.msts - a very brief closing logo scene
When BDRB processes this to DVD-5 output, the subtitles in the main movie are out of sync by approximately 10 seconds too early, which is the length of the opening 00001.m2ts video. It appears the subtitles pgs is being processed as though the entries relate to the total playlist in BDRB much like chapters, whereas the pgs entries appear to be tied to the 00000.m2ts video itself (resulting in subtitles appearing 10 seconds too early in this case).
Any audio or subtitles default selections made in BDRB are not honored either (I do not know if that is unique to this title being processed to DVD-5, but I can say default selections seem to work when processing to BD output).
I hope these notes are somewhat helpful to jdobbs when investigating the problem further.

more info (ie. another problem) . . .

The 4th disc in the Dragon Trilogy BD Set set has documentaries and extras. The primary playlist runs those 5 documentaries in sequence (a "play all" selection in the BDs main menu). The first title in that playlist has english audio and no subtitles. The following 4 titles have swedish audio and english subtitles. I chose "movie only" output to DVD-5 in BDRB. It sees and defaults to the primary playlist described above. This is fine - except BDRB sees the 1 audio track and no subtitles in the first file, and seems to assume the rest are the same, as the subtitles in the following video files are not indicated as being available nor offered or converted to dvd anywhere.
If I select "Full Backup" in BDRB, the program sees and offers all the subtitles in the titles that have subtitles.

Update:
Just for info: I ran BDRB off a different playlist which only plays the first title (the "making of" documentary with english audio and no subtitles) to create dvd files of that. Then I used tsmuxer again to combine the remaining 4 video files that have swedish audio and english subtitles into a BD formatted directory - which I then ran through BDRB to convert to dvd files. That gave me 2 dvd structures on hard disk. I ran DVDShrink to combine those into 1 DVD. A lot of steps - but when done, at least I had all the videos and all the proper audio tracks and subtitles in the proper playback sequence.

[Ch3vr0n]

@sfcav: - HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14 Isn't recommended version

There's your problem. Switch to the right one

[sfcav]

@sfcav: - HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14 Isn't recommended version

There's your problem. Switch to the right one

Thanks Ch3vrOn - For clairfication, the inspect tool simply says that the HAALI version it finds isn't the recommended version (I added in the info), but it IS the version linked on the first page of this forum (just checked again), which seems odd. Could there be an error in the link??

[Ch3vr0n]

Then that inspect.exe bug jdobbs has been working on still isnt fixed.

[RobertM]

I thought that bug wasn't finally fixed until the LATEST version of BDRB (v0.38.0.9). sfcav is running v0.38.0.8, so perhaps he should try the current version (and the bundled current version of inspect.exe) and then maybe that HAALI error will disappear.

[sfcav]

Here's an update - I reinstalled HAALI media splitter and now Inspect indicates that my setup is Ok:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

I therefore tried BD-RB and, as before, the audio was not in sync (sound ahead of video by up to several seconds).

Per RobertM's suggestion, I set up v03809, and Inspect reports the following:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.9, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Will try again with v03809 and let you know what happens.

Thanks for the suggestions : )

[Capsbackup]

BD-RB works flawlessly with any BD or mkv file I throw at it, but I'm consistently having an audio sync issue with most of my captured 1080i mpg files. These files are 1080i ac3 mpg and they play fine on their own.

The most likely reason, which is not a BD-RB bug, is the program you use to edit your capture, remove commercials, etc... The only reliable program I have found, that leaves a 0ms audio delay and treats the time stamps of this edit properly is VideoRedo. Others are not so reliable in this regard. :(
So though your source may play in sync, the reencode may not! ;)

[sfcav]

Thanks Capsbackup

I too have found VideoRedo to be the best editor, and it is what I use to remove leading and trailing non-movie info from the mpg files. Using MediaInfo or tsMuxeR, there is no audio delay listed in either the original or the BD-RB files.

BD-RB 3809 just finished, and it too has the audio out of sync.

I'm befuddled : (

[Sharc]

I searched for a simple answer but didn't find one.

BD-RB works flawlessly with any BD or mkv file I throw at it, but I'm consistently having an audio sync issue with most of my captured 1080i mpg files. These files are 1080i ac3 mpg and they play fine on their own. However, I like converting them to 1080p and shrinking them to fit on DL or SL disks, which is where BD-RB comes in. I've tried numerous versions up to 3808, but still get what appears to be a several second difference between the audio and video. Using Handbreak, the files turn out fine but it takes several times longer than BD-RB.

Inspect reports the following:
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14 Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok


My settings are:

- Use Deinterlacer
- Do not reencode AC3

One post here indicated that certain Haali splitters may be an issue (most current?).

Thoughts or suggestions welcome :)

sfcav
How do you convert your captured .mpg file into a blu-ray structure ready for BD RB?
Is the audio of the corresponding .m2ts file in sync (i.e. before processing it with BD-RB)?

[sfcav]

How do you convert your captured .mpg file into a blu-ray structure ready for BD RB?
Is the audio of the corresponding .m2ts file in sync (i.e. before processing it with BD-RB)?

I use tsMuxeR to create the necessary input file structure for BD-RB, and the mt2s file plays fine and is properly sync'd. Note also that I typically have BD-RB set NOT to re-encode ac3 files (thought I may try re-encoding to see what happens). Thus, the issue takes place during the BD-RB conversion.

Also, I neglected to mention this and not sure if it matters, but most of the files that end up out of sync are B&W - I seem to have fewer issues with color mpgs.

FYI - Here's the log file for my last attempt:

[17:26:17] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: AVCHD
- Input BD size: 9.19 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:27:55.264]
- Target BD size: 8.15 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:26:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:26:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:31:48] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:31:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 158,100 frames
- Bitrate: 11,631 Kbs
- [17:31:48] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:54:28] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:37:44] Video Encode complete
- [22:37:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:38:57] Multiplexing M2TS
[22:42:53]PHASE ONE complete
[22:42:53]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:42:53] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[22:47:36] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[22:47:36]JOB: AVCHD finished.

[Capsbackup]

@sfcav;
I would suggest you uncheck Remove Workfiles folder, so that you keep the reencoded files for re-integrating manually via tsMuxeR, trying different audio delays until you get the audio synced. :p
Since I do not believe this is a BD-RB bug, and jdobbs probably has no way to get his hands on this type of source to experiment with, I recommend starting a new thread so we don't continue in this bug reports thread. ;)

[Monty11]

I would like to use BD Rebuilder to shrink a Blu-Ray disc of the Brandenburg Concertos (prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Medici%2BArts/2056738). It has two audio tracks, both LPCM - one is stereo and the other 5.1. The stream loads in BD-RB, but both audio tracks have a red cross by them. I have all audio boxes unchecked in Settings, and German is selected under Audio Languages to Keep (they are labelled German, but there is only music on the disc). The problem occurs whether the Source is the disc itself (with AnyDVD) or an image ripped to my hard drive using AnyDVD. Am I doing something wrong (probable), or is this a bug in BD-RB (unlikely)? The BD-RB FAQ implies that BD-RB will handle LPCM.

Edit: My apologies. The problem was solved by selecting "All Languages" in Settings.

[Ch3vr0n]

Actually selecting "all languages" will do more harm then good. When you try to compress a movie then it will keep ALL languages leaving less room the actual video. The reason the streams had a red X is because you UNTICKED all checkboxes. The checkboxes are not for wich audio you wish to remove but for wich audio you wish to KEEP. If you select English (eng) and Germand (deu). They should get detected properly

[jdobbs]

I would like to use BD Rebuilder to shrink a Blu-Ray disc of the Brandenburg Concertos (prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Medici%2BArts/2056738). It has two audio tracks, both LPCM - one is stereo and the other 5.1. The stream loads in BD-RB, but both audio tracks have a red cross by them. I have all audio boxes unchecked in Settings, and German is selected under Audio Languages to Keep (they are labelled German, but there is only music on the disc). The problem occurs whether the Source is the disc itself (with AnyDVD) or an image ripped to my hard drive using AnyDVD. Am I doing something wrong (probable), or is this a bug in BD-RB (unlikely)? The BD-RB FAQ implies that BD-RB will handle LPCM.

Edit: My apologies. The problem was solved by selecting "All Languages" in Settings.
Make sure you select both German audio types ("ger" and "deu" I believe).

[sfcav]

@sfcav;
I would suggest you uncheck Remove Workfiles folder, so that you keep the reencoded files for re-integrating manually via tsMuxeR, trying different audio delays until you get the audio synced. :p


Thanks Capsbackup for the suggestion. As an update, I just finished aBD-RB 3809 run where I un-checked "Do not reencode AC3", but the sync issue remains. Regarding keeping the workfiles and merging them myself, I tried that with the final m2ts file (demuxing or remuxing with delays), but the audio and video are so far out of sync (at least 30 seconds) that getting them to match would be quite difficult. As I mentioned before, Handbreak handles the files perfectly but takes much longer and isn't as streamline, which is why I'm hoping to find a BD-RB solution.

I will cut and test a piece of the orignial mpg file, in case posting somewhere would be helpful.

PS - Two additional notes:

1. The audio delay starts at the beginning of the BD-RB mt2s file and gets longer throughout the file (not constant)

2. I was able to reproduce the delay with a 100 MB segment of the mpg file.

[Sharc]

PS - Two additional notes:

1. The audio delay starts at the beginning of the BD-RB mt2s file and gets longer throughout the file (not constant)
.....

Looks like the framerate of the (deinterlaced?) video is incorrect, i.e. the movie duration does not match the audio duration.
Try to not select "Use deinterlace ...." in the setup, leave it interlaced.

[sfcav]

Looks like the framerate of the (deinterlaced?) video is incorrect, i.e. the movie duration does not match the audio duration.
Try to not select "Use deinterlace ...." in the setup, leave it interlaced.

Thanks Sharc: Tried BD-RB with "Use deinterlacer" unchecked (nothing checked under Video Encoding Options), but got the same result.

Just ran the file through TS Doctor and it found 2 errors in the AC3 stream - will now try BD-RB on the 'fixed' file!

2011-08-28
The 'fixed' file still resulted in the variable audio delay issue.

[samtroy]

Hi all,

I just tried to reencode an BD to an MKV file several times:

I choose 2 DTS audio tracks and 2 PGS subtitle tracks. But always in the end, when BDR says its finished, there is no completely finished MKV but only an MKV file in the workfile folder with only *one* audiotrack (with no language info) and no subtitles at all. I've tried 3 times already. I chose CRF 18 mode.

What's going on? Is this a bug?

Here's the .inf:

[Status]
LABEL=SOME_MOVIE
VERSION=v0.38.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=23386478592
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=23386478592
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=1.05366594218376
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=11
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=11
PGS=11
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=24641536000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Here's the log:

-----------------------
[13:12:33] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: SOME_MOVIE
- Input BD size: 21.78 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:57:41.546]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:12:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:12:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [13:25:21] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [13:25:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 169,308 frames
- [13:25:21] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:08:39] Video Encode complete
- [16:08:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:08:39] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:08:39]PHASE ONE complete
[16:08:39]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:08:39] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
- [16:08:39] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[16:13:58] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[16:13:59]JOB: SOME_MOVIE finished.

And the workfile folder:

00000.track_4352.dts 1,331,986,320 28.08.2011
00000.track_4353.dts 1,331,986,320 28.08.2011
00000.track_4608.sup 21,163,303 28.08.2011
00000.track_4609.sup 17,947,930 28.08.2011
AUD_00000.meta 586 28.08.2011
AUD_00000_4352.AVS 298 28.08.2011
MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta 173 28.08.2011
VID_00000.AVS 223 28.08.2011
VID_00000.CHP 170 28.08.2011
VID_00000.AVS.264 4,320,924,099 28.08.2011
VID_00000.AVS.MKV 5.600,000,000 <-- approx. (I deleted it)

Thanks for some help!

[setarip_old]

@samtroy

Hi!

I believe I read elsewhere in this thread (or another thread in this sub-forum), that in order for the German tracks to be properly processed, you have to select them an BOTH "DEU" and "GER"...

[samtroy]

Thanks for the tip. I did exactly what you said:

-> AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
-> SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;

But still the same bug: There's a MKV file inside the "WORKFILES" folder but it has only one audiotrack (without language info!) and no subs at all! All the needed and initially checked streams (2 audiotracks and 2 PGS subtitles) are there in the folder as well but don't get muxed into the MKV by BD Rebuilder.

I even tried a different movie and also deleted BDR's ini file beforehand to make sure there's no problem from an older version.

Seems like BDR's MKV-output feature has some serious bugs.

jdobbs, can you help please?
S.

Edit: I tried again with another movie and SUBS and AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ALL -> the same faulty result! BDR just won't mix all the streams together in the end.

[Ch3vr0n]

didn't jdobbs say a while ago that mkv only supported 1 sub?

[ukbackups]

been using this for ages now i am getting this please help

[19:48:42] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: THE_TOURIST
- Input BD size: 38.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:16.088]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:48:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:48:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [19:59:10] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 24)
- [19:59:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24.000fps, 148,537 frames
- Bitrate: 19,813 Kbs
- [19:59:10] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[19:59:13] - Failed video encode, aborted

[RobertM]

been using this for ages now i am getting this please help

[19:48:42] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: THE_TOURIST
- Input BD size: 38.54 GB
<snip>
[19:59:13] - Failed video encode, aborted

Are you having this problem only on this disc, or on every disc you try, or just occasionally?

[ukbackups]

been using this for ages now i am getting this please help

[19:48:42] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: THE_TOURIST
- Input BD size: 38.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:16.088]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:48:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:48:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [19:59:10] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 24)
- [19:59:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24.000fps, 148,537 frames
- Bitrate: 19,813 Kbs
- [19:59:10] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[19:59:13] - Failed video encode, aborted

i have tryed two discs so far both the same results never come across this befor been using bd rebuilder for ages

[Capsbackup]

i have tryed two discs so far both the same results never come across this befor been using bd rebuilder for ages

Something you installed has taken preference from haali, ffdshow or Avisynth. You should not have any codec packs installed, only the above mentioned. Uninstall those three programs and any codec packs ( check your uninstall programs list for what is on your system ). Reboot and install those three programs jdobbs has available from the first page of this thread. :cool:

[DGenerateKane]

Been awhile since I encoded any Blu-ray's, but I just started again recently. I did many successful rebuilds, but I keep getting the same error on two, BSG The Plan and Terminator 2. They both fail to retrieve audio, and tsmuxer stops responding and I have to force it to close. Any ideas what is wrong? I'm guessing something with my systems, as on the computer I normally encode blu-ray's BSG fails around 17% but I tried both on this computer and BSG failed before it could even do anything (although T2 seemed to fail at the same spot it did on my other system). Also, I searched this post for tsmuxer crashes and only found old posts about subs. I tried both without subs wih the same results. Also, Inspect.exe reports everything ok.

[18:42:50] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: BSG_THE_PLAN
- Input BD size: 38.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:04:30.092]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:42:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:42:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[18:44:44] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[18:45:31] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: TERMINATOR_2
- Input BD size: 44.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [07:47:23.364]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:45:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:45:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [18:45:41] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 53)
- [18:45:41] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:45:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,056 frames
- Bitrate: 5,858 Kbs
- [18:45:43] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:45:43] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:46:14] Video Encode complete
- [18:46:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:46:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:46:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [18:46:25] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 53)
- [18:46:25] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:46:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,928 frames
- Bitrate: 6,297 Kbs
- [18:46:31] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:46:31] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:47:14] Video Encode complete
- [18:47:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:47:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:47:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [18:47:18] Reencoding: VID_00005 (3 of 53)
- [18:47:18] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:47:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 610 frames
- Bitrate: 7,086 Kbs
- [18:47:20] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:47:20] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:47:30] Video Encode complete
- [18:47:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:47:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:47:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [18:47:40] Reencoding: VID_00006 (4 of 53)
- [18:47:40] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:47:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,353 frames
- Bitrate: 6,410 Kbs
- [18:47:44] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:47:44] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:48:48] Video Encode complete
- [18:48:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:48:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:48:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [18:48:53] Reencoding: VID_00007 (5 of 53)
- [18:48:53] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:48:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,147 frames
- Bitrate: 6,426 Kbs
- [18:48:54] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:48:54] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:49:12] Video Encode complete
- [18:49:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:49:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:49:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [18:50:49] Reencoding: VID_00008 (6 of 53)
- [18:50:49] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [18:51:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 34,739 frames
- Bitrate: 5,677 Kbs
- [18:51:17] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:51:17] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:59:56] Video Encode complete
- [18:59:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:59:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:00:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [19:00:18] Reencoding: VID_00010 (7 of 53)
- [19:00:18] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [19:00:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,540 frames
- Bitrate: 6,473 Kbs
- [19:00:19] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:00:20] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:00:58] Video Encode complete
- [19:00:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:00:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:00:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [19:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00011 (8 of 53)
- [19:01:04] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [19:01:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,683 frames
- Bitrate: 6,229 Kbs
- [19:01:07] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:01:07] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:01:46] Video Encode complete
- [19:01:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:01:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:01:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [19:01:53] Reencoding: VID_00012 (9 of 53)
- [19:01:53] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [19:01:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,301 frames
- Bitrate: 6,105 Kbs
- [19:01:55] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:01:55] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:02:29] Video Encode complete
- [19:02:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:02:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:02:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [19:02:38] Reencoding: VID_00013 (10 of 53)
- [19:02:38] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [19:02:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,327 frames
- Bitrate: 6,725 Kbs
- [19:02:40] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:02:40] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:03:45] Video Encode complete
- [19:03:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:03:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:03:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[19:06:25] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[Snarko]

Blu-ray to DVD conversion works great except that for a couple of things:

It places a period in the lower right corner of the image for subtitles. It's not too distracting, but is just a bit odd. Just thought I'd mention it, as I haven't seen it noted here before.

1 pass with HCEnc doesn't seem to take, even with the line HC_ONEPASS=1 in bdrebuilder.ini.

Also, for some TV series discs there is no playlist for all episodes, so there's no nice way to encode them all in one go with BD Rebuilder. A way to select sequential titles would be nice for alternative outputs, for this reason.

Anyway, thanks for the excellent software!

[fawlty99]

I having a problem with "Adjustment Bureau" aborting. BD Rebuilder is the current build as is ffdshow etc. Ripped using AnyDVD HD 6.8.4.0. I successfully rebuilt another BD earlier but for whatever reason this falls over at encoding. Any help is appreciated. Here is the log:
-----------------------
[15:33:22] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: ADJUSTMENT_BUREAU
- Input BD size: 41.00 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:09.499]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:33:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:33:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00084]
- [15:33:28] Reencoding: VID_00084 (1 of 138)
- [15:33:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,416 frames
- Bitrate: 9,318 Kbs
- [15:33:28] Reencoding: VID_00084, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[15:36:45] - Failed video encode, aborted

[omegaman7]

As you can see, the inspection fails quite extremely. You need to set certain key elements correctly to rebuild BD's. Since you say you've rebuilt some BD's in the past, you must have installed a codec/pack recently, which mucked up the settings?

[fawlty99]

As you can see, the inspection fails quite extremely. You need to set certain key elements correctly to rebuild BD's. Since you say you've rebuilt some BD's in the past, you must have installed a codec/pack recently, which mucked up the settings?
No - nothing recently. I used BD Rebuilder earlier today and it worked fine. Just doesn't like this title.

[fawlty99]

Could it be something with the source video being VC-1? If the video souce is mpeg4-AVC then it seems ok.

[jdobbs]

You're not configured properly. Closely follow the instructions in the first post of the bug thread.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
glad to see your back and hope Irene did not cause you too much harm! :(

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
glad to see your back and hope Irene did not cause you too much harm! :(Nope. I was about a thousand miles away at the time. It had some of my relatives without power for a while though. Looks like there's a chance for another one this week, though. I'll be missing that one too.

[fawlty99]

You're not configured properly. Closely follow the instructions in the first post of the bug thread.

Hmm I can't see that any settings are wrong - and i don't know how the configurations would have changed since last i used bd rebuilder.
I have FFDshow video decoder for VC-1 set to wmv9 and mpeg 2 to libavcodec. Anything else i should look for?

[omegaman7]

I'm not sure which version Jdobbs implemented the fix for incorrectly set settings. But 38.09 offers to set it up for you upon installation. Because somehow my settings were wrong last time I updated, and it offered to fix the settings. I was delightfully surprised :D

[RobertM]

Hmm I can't see that any settings are wrong - <snip>



These settings, per your log:

- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]

[fawlty99]

These settings, per your log:

Excuse my ignorance but where are those settings & what should they be? I've made sure FFDShow for mpeg2 & vc-1 are correct as per the first post in this thread.

[Ch3vr0n]

They should be what is mentioned in the very first post. IF they arent then you probably have a codec pack installed that modified those settings resulting in a failure to encode. Redo the settings

[tonimacarronis]

Hi! I have this problem with this movie if I do movie-only "alternate movie-only output". Thanks in advance.

-----------------------
[00:08:01] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: EN_EL_LIMITE_DEL_AMOR_[FULL_BLU-RAY_AVC_1080P_DTS-HDMA_SPA_DD5.1_ENG]
- Input BD size: 25,60 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:50:51.041]
- Target BD size: 7,84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[00:08:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:08:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [00:21:23] Reencoding: VID_00005 (1 of 3)
- [00:21:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 250 frames
- Bitrate: 6.085 Kbs
- [00:21:23] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:21:31] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:21:37] Video Encode complete
- [00:21:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:21:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:21:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [00:21:40] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 3)
- [00:21:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 120 frames
- Bitrate: 587 Kbs
- [00:21:40] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:21:42] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:21:44] Video Encode complete
- [00:21:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:21:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [00:35:03] Reencoding: VID_00000 (3 of 3)
- [00:35:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 159.255 frames
- Bitrate: 8.929 Kbs
- [00:35:04] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:00:48] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:27:23] Video Encode complete
- [03:27:23] Multiplexing M2TS
[03:32:00]PHASE ONE complete
[03:32:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [03:32:00] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: C:\USERS\TONY\REBUILD\WORKFILES\00005.track_4608.SUP
[03:32:01] - Failed to REBUILD

[fawlty99]

They should be what is mentioned in the very first post. IF they arent then you probably have a codec pack installed that modified those settings resulting in a failure to encode. Redo the settings

The thing is that I haven't knowingly installed any codecs for ages. What's more I had 2 ripped blu-rays, both vc-1, which I was rebuilding. The first was Fast & Furious 5 which completed successfully. A bit later in the day I tried Adjustment Bureau & I got the error. When I go back to F&F5 I now get the same message and it can't complete. Something funny is going on. Might try and uninstall all BD rebuilder progs & start from scratch. If that doesn't work will load a backup system image & see if that works.

[RobertM]

Might try and uninstall all BD rebuilder progs & start from scratch

That's a good idea. Also, take a look though your installed programs again just to make SURE that no other codecs are installed.

Once your reinstall is done, the first thing to do (after running BDRB for the first time as "admin" -- right-click!) is to check "inspect.exe" to see if everything is "ok". If you can't get those errors to disappear then let us know.

[jdobbs]

The thing is that I haven't knowingly installed any codecs for ages. What's more I had 2 ripped blu-rays, both vc-1, which I was rebuilding. The first was Fast & Furious 5 which completed successfully. A bit later in the day I tried Adjustment Bureau & I got the error. When I go back to F&F5 I now get the same message and it can't complete. Something funny is going on. Might try and uninstall all BD rebuilder progs & start from scratch. If that doesn't work will load a backup system image & see if that works.
Other software will often change your setting without the courtesy of letting you know they have done so.

Your settings are wrong, regardless of how it happened or how any of us feel about it. BD-RB looked at them and reported them as they are. If you want it to work I'd suggest you stop debating it and simply reinstall as I suggested...

[fawlty99]

If you want it to work I'd suggest you stop debating it and simply reinstall as I suggested...

Nothing to debate - the settings for win7 are clearly wrong - but why they are wrong is a good (i thought) question. Nevertheless I started from scratch, ran BD Rebuilder as an administrator & all is good again. Thanks for the help.

[AGKnotUser]

Hi,

Just tried to do a Full Disk Backup of "Disney's A Christmas Carol" (which has something like 70 VIDs) and got a size error (file was too big) when ImgBurn tried to burn a 25 gB disc. I tried it with the automatic quality setting and two-pass Good (very fast) setting. What info (if any) do you need?

Thanks

[Ch3vr0n]

Did you change the custom output size?

[AGKnotUser]

Did you change the custom output size?

No, I didn't.

[colinhunt]

Warner's US release of "A Star Is Born". Movie-only backup results in audio several seconds out of sync.

Looks like it might have something to do with a text information screen which is shown before the actual movie starts: audio begins playing right away when it should start only after the info screen has faded away and the movie proper begins.

Another way to explain it
Text screen of 5 seconds: file 00000.m2ts, no audio
Movie: file 00001.m2ts, with audio

#1) According to playlist, files 00000.m2ts and 00001.m2ts are combined into a new 00000.m2ts
#2) Audio is set to start from 00:00:00 of the new 00000.m2ts, even though it should start after a 5-second delay

[setarip_old]

@colinhunt

Hi!

See my post from last year:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1443181&postcount=9533

(Similar in concept to "The Girl..." series)

[colinhunt]

See my post from last year
So, I can't do a movie-only backup of this disc with BD-RB?

[jdobbs]

So, I can't do a movie-only backup of this disc with BD-RB? You can do a movie-only backup of any legally authored disc. In the link the source violated the Blu-Ray standard. I'll see if I can get "A Star is Born" and test it.

[colinhunt]

I'll see if I can get that "A Star is Born" and test it.
I can provide more information of the disc in case you wish to save your $.

[jdobbs]

I can provide more information of the disc in case you wish to save your $. Is this the Judy Garland film? It seems to be the only one I can find on Blu-Ray (as opposed to the Barbra Streisand version).

[colinhunt]

Is this the Judy Garland film?
Yup, that's the one. Here's some info, just in case.

"Warner Bros. dedicates this film" text screen preceding the movie is a file named 00064.m2ts:
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : AP@L3
Codec ID : 234
Duration : 21s 104ms
Bit rate : 1 690 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.034
Stream size : 4.25 MiB (82%)

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 22s 48ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 172 KiB (3%)

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 22s 48ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 172 KiB (3%)

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 22s 48ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 64.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 172 KiB (3%)


Main movie is 00020.m2ts:
Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : AP@L3
Codec ID : 234
Duration : 2h 55mn
Bit rate : 24.9 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.501
Stream size : 30.6 GiB (86%)

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA / Core
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 2h 55mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 425 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : Dolby Digital
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 55mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 242 MiB (1%)

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2h 55mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 242 MiB (1%)


00064.m2ts is played first, followed seamlessly by 00020.m2ts. If you skip back to the beginning of the movie, playback resumes from start of 00020.m2ts; 00064.m2ts is not played.

[cadre]

I just shrank a Blu-ray movie, The Lincoln Lawyer, by using BD-Rebuilder. As a result, when I play it with PowerDVD 11, the Audio lags behind the video.
Has anyone had this kind of problem? Could somebody tell me how to resolve it?

[04:58:59] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: THE_LINCOLN_LAWYER
- Input BD size: 34.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:58:28.935]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[04:58:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:58:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00436]
- [05:20:44] Reencoding: VID_00436 (1 of 1)
- [05:20:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 170,444 frames
- Bitrate: 7,966 Kbs
- [05:20:44] Reencoding: VID_00436, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [07:32:39] Reencoding: VID_00436, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:49:02] Video Encode complete
- [09:49:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:53:16] Multiplexing M2TS
[09:57:18]PHASE ONE complete
[09:57:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:57:18] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[10:01:35] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:01:35]JOB: THE_LINCOLN_LAWYER finished.

[setarip_old]

@cadre

Hi!

Have you played your original, commercial Blu-ray disc, also using PowerDVD 11, to determine whether that disc also plays with an audio lag?

[jdobbs]

I just shrank a Blu-ray movie, The Lincoln Lawyer, by using BD-Rebuilder. As a result, when I play it with PowerDVD 11, the Audio lags behind the video.
Has anyone had this kind of problem? Could somebody tell me how to resolve it?

[04:58:59] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: THE_LINCOLN_LAWYER
- Input BD size: 34.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:58:28.935]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[04:58:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:58:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00436]
- [05:20:44] Reencoding: VID_00436 (1 of 1)
- [05:20:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 170,444 frames
- Bitrate: 7,966 Kbs
- [05:20:44] Reencoding: VID_00436, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [07:32:39] Reencoding: VID_00436, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:49:02] Video Encode complete
- [09:49:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:53:16] Multiplexing M2TS
[09:57:18]PHASE ONE complete
[09:57:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:57:18] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[10:01:35] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:01:35]JOB: THE_LINCOLN_LAWYER finished. I did the US version of that movie and it has no problems.

But I don't understand your report... you're reporting output that has audio sync issues, but your log shows an encode failure?

I'd recommend you reinstall from scratch following the directions in the first post of this thread. I'd also suggest that if you are overclocked, you lower the speed. Something is clearly wrong, and it looks like your system -- as the encode had issues during the first pass.

[cadre]

@cadre

Hi!

Have you played your original, commercial Blu-ray disc, also using PowerDVD 11, to determine whether that disc also plays with an audio lag?

The original disc is played perfectly by PowerDVD 11.

[cadre]

I did the US version of that movie and it has no problems.

But I don't understand your report... you're reporting output that has audio sync issues, but your log shows an encode failure?

I'd recommend you reinstall from scratch following the directions in the first post of this thread. I'd also suggest that if you are overclocked, you lower the speed. Something is clearly wrong, and it looks like your system -- as the encode had issues during the first pass.

I think you are right. The program did encount an encode failure at the first pass, and I ignored it. I will try to install the program and rebuild it again. Thanks for you answer, jdobbs.

[Capsbackup]

Another full backup to BD9, this time Your Highness, results in DTS HD Master 5.1/48kHz/24 bit being converted to DD 2.0 640kbps. :confused:

Some additional info:
This is a multi-part .m2ts movie, with a theatrical and extended version option. Regardless of choice, the original DTS HD Master is converted to DD2.0 640kbps.

NOTE: only the last .m2ts of either version is converted properly to DD 5.1 640kbps. This is what I find with the audio AVS:

Incorrectly converted:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Ed\Desktop\BD-RBV03809C\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=DirectShowSource("G:\YOUR_HIGHNESS BDRB\WORKFILES\AUD_50285_4352.mkv").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

Correctly converted:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Ed\Desktop\BD-RBV03809C\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("50306.track_4352.dts").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

It appears when BD-RB converts the file to .mkv and trys to convert that audio file with DirectShowSource to DD 5.1 it is unsuccessful.

When BD-RB converts the audio file with NicDTSSource on the .dts file it converts properly to DD 5.1 640kbps.

[jdobbs]

While it is encoding, could you check your FFDSHOW audio decoder configuration? The "Mixer" checkbox should be unchecked. When the mixer is selected the default is for the audio to be converted to 2/0 (stereo). In BD-RB I manually turn that setting off during DirectShowSource() encoding and then reset it to its original value upon completion. The only thing I can imagine is if the setting is not "taking".

BD-RB uses this strategy on multi-part sources because NicDTSSource() isn't exact in it's timing, which can sometimes cause timing problems when attempting playback on full backups. If you look at the DD output of DTS sources when using NicDTSSource() you'll see that the audio length is very slightly different than the original. On a single-part movie it is no big deal and can be ignored, but it becomes an issue on multi-part playback (with certain players, e.g. Samsung).

[Capsbackup]

Mixer is checked right now, but I am not encoding anything at the moment.

[jdobbs]

Mixer is checked right now, but I am not encoding anything at the moment. If you uncheck it your problem will go away -- but that really only acts as a workaround and doesn't really fix the issue. BD-RB should be unchecking it temporarily during encoding.

[Capsbackup]

If you uncheck it your problem will go away -- but that really only acts as a workaround and doesn't really fix the issue. BD-RB should be unchecking it temporarily during encoding.

I have unchecked it now. I have never made any selection to that area of the ffdshow audio decoder before, so it does appear that if BD-RB is making that change as necessary, it is not reverting back to unchecked when completed.

[jdobbs]

I have unchecked it now. I have never made any selection to that area of the ffdshow audio decoder before, so it does appear that if BD-RB is making that change as necessary, it is not reverting back to unchecked when completed. Checked is the default on most installations. So it should normally be checked, but go unchecked when encoding DTS. It might be a rights issue, but it's hard to tell without actually being there to test it.

[Capsbackup]

Checked is the default on most installations. So it should normally be checked, but go unchecked when encoding DTS. It might be a rights issue, but it's hard to tell without actually being there to test it.

Since my setup is for BD-RB to do my audio conversions as necessary, I want it set to your preference. :cool: Then, if one of my test backups does this again, I can better provide you info to see if it is a bug or not.
So if it should be normally checked, I will do that.

Are you saying to us users that we need to verify the source first before making a selection to this ffdshow audio decoder mixer selection?? :confused:
Or, most likely BD-RB should be checking/unchecking if source is DTS or not!

[jdobbs]

Since my setup is for BD-RB to do my audio conversions as necessary, I want it set to your preference. :cool: Then, if one of my test backups does this again, I can better provide you info to see if it is a bug or not.
So if it should be normally checked, I will do that.

Are you saying to us users that we need to verify the source first before making a selection to this ffdshow audio decoder mixer selection?? :confused:
Or, most likely BD-RB should be checking/unchecking if source is DTS or not! It should all be automatic and the end-user shouldn't have to worry about it.

[jdobbs]

Since my setup is for BD-RB to do my audio conversions as necessary, I want it set to your preference. :cool: Then, if one of my test backups does this again, I can better provide you info to see if it is a bug or not.
So if it should be normally checked, I will do that.

Are you saying to us users that we need to verify the source first before making a selection to this ffdshow audio decoder mixer selection?? :confused:
Or, most likely BD-RB should be checking/unchecking if source is DTS or not! Is there any chance that you have another DirectShow decoder in-place that is doing the decoding (rather than FFDSHOW)? If that decoder converts to stereo it could cause the issue as well.

[jdobbs]

@Capsbackup

Just as a sanity check... does your FFDSHOW audio configuration have the DTS decoder enabled?

[Capsbackup]

Is there any chance that you have another DirectShow decoder in-place that is doing the decoding (rather than FFDSHOW)? If that decoder converts to stereo it could cause the issue as well.

None that I am aware of. I have not installed any programs on this PC for at least 6 months, except your recommended haali and ffdshow versions! :p

@Capsbackup

Just as a sanity check... does your FFDSHOW audio configuration have the DTS decoder enabled?

Yes, and is set to libavcodec.

[AGKnotUser]

Hi,

Did a Full Backup of "Paul" and the resulting BD Disc was only 13.1 GB. The size of the original was 33.4 GB. Any ideas?

[jdobbs]

None that I am aware of. I have not installed any programs on this PC for at least 6 months, except your recommended haali and ffdshow versions! :p



Yes, and is set to libavcodec. Hmmm... mine is set to libdts. Could you try and see if that makes a difference?

[jdobbs]

Hi,

Did a Full Backup of "Paul" and the resulting BD Disc was only 13.1 GB. The size of the original was 33.4 GB. Any ideas? Can't tell much without your settings or your log.

[Capsbackup]

Hmmm... mine is set to libdts. Could you try and see if that makes a difference?

I can try this, but there were many multi-m2ts movies that I have backed up to BD5/9 with previous BD-RB releases and ffdshow set as is, and I never had a DTS HD Master convert to DD 2.0. Could there have been a change to BD-RB with one of your latest updates regarding DTS decoding/encoding? My last two full backups to BD9, Limitless and now Your Highness, both multi-m2ts movies, had the audio convert to DD 640kbps/ 2.0.
I will test it tonight with libdts set and mixer selected and let you know the results.

[jdobbs]

I can try this, but there were many multi-m2ts movies that I have backed up to BD5/9 with previous BD-RB releases and ffdshow set as is, and I never had a DTS HD Master convert to DD 2.0. Could there have been a change to BD-RB with one of your latest updates regarding DTS decoding/encoding? My last two full backups to BD9, Limitless and now Your Highness, both multi-m2ts movies, had the audio convert to DD 640kbps/ 2.0.
I will test it tonight with libdts set and mixer selected and let you know the results. That would make sense. The change to DirectShowSource() was implemented in v0.38.5.

[AGKnotUser]

Can't tell much without your settings or your log.

Here's the log. Is this what you mean by settings?

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.9, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[jdobbs]

Here's the log. Is this what you mean by settings?

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.38.0.9, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok No. The settings would be the BDREBUILDER.INI file and the log would be BD-REBUILDER.LOG.

[AGKnotUser]

No. The settings would be the BDREBUILDER.INI file and the log would be BD-REBUILDER.LOG.

Ok, Here they are.

[jerfilm]

Here's a strange quirk. I'm trying to back up Gone With The Wind Bonus Disc. The Stream folder containing the files contains 68 files totalling 27.4 Gb. Here's the log:

07:48:04] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: GONE_WITH_THE_WIND_BONUS_DISC
- Input BD size: 55.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [09:25:44.043]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

And I get the error message "Target size too small to continue"

As you can see, for some reason it seems to think there are 55 Gb - double - in the input file. This problem occurred with vs 38.09.

????? Jerry Rutledge
jerfilm@aol.com

[Capsbackup]

Hmmm... mine is set to libdts. Could you try and see if that makes a difference?

Tried this but same results. :(

That would make sense. The change to DirectShowSource() was implemented in v0.38.5.

This looks more likely, perhaps you could investigate. :p

[jdobbs]

Tried this but same results. :(



This looks more likely, perhaps you could investigate. :p The problem is that it is working perfectly on my system... so I need to know what is different in your case. The only other option is to use NicDTSSources() all the time -- and that causes issues on Samsung players.

[Capsbackup]

The problem is that it is working perfectly on my system... so I need to know what is different in your case. The only other option is to use NicDTSSources() all the time -- and that causes issues on Samsung players.

Well since I don't own a Samsung player, I don't have these issues. :confused: Is there a way for me to use/set BD-RB to use NicDTSSources()?
And since this change that took place with BD-RB, regardless of playback device, I now am unable to do multi-m2ts full movie backups and get properly reencoded DTS HD Master to DD 5.1. :(
Since it does not happen to you, and I know I have not added or changed anything to my system, and it does not appear anyone else is reporting this same problem, I will have to just accept my dilemma. :devil:

[jdobbs]

Well since I don't own a Samsung player, I don't have these issues. :confused: Is there a way for me to use/set BD-RB to use NicDTSSources()?
And since this change that took place with BD-RB, regardless of playback device, I now am unable to do multi-m2ts full movie backups and get properly reencoded DTS HD Master to DD 5.1. :(
Since it does not happen to you, and I know I have not added or changed anything to my system, and it does not appear anyone else is reporting this same problem, I will have to just accept my dilemma. :devil:

Just uncheck the mixer and it should work ok.

I don't want to "accept it" -- I want to fix it. If it happens to you it will likely happen to others -- even if they don't report it. I think I'll go back through the versions of NicAudio.dll and see if this happens on all of them.

[[SLiM]D12]

Trying to do a backup of "Bridesmaids" and i'm getting a Audio/PGS sizing issue error that pops up and my resulting encode is oversized. Any idea how to fix?

thx

[Ch3vr0n]

well for starters you could post the actual entire bd-rb logfile from the encoding with the failure & inspect at the bottom. Without it jdobbs probably will have no idea what you're talking about. He needs the error code

[jdobbs]

Well since I don't own a Samsung player, I don't have these issues. :confused: Is there a way for me to use/set BD-RB to use NicDTSSources()?
And since this change that took place with BD-RB, regardless of playback device, I now am unable to do multi-m2ts full movie backups and get properly reencoded DTS HD Master to DD 5.1. :(
Since it does not happen to you, and I know I have not added or changed anything to my system, and it does not appear anyone else is reporting this same problem, I will have to just accept my dilemma. :devil: Hmm... I was going through the code and remembered that "yes", I did add a switch to disable this. Just add the following line to your INI file:

AUDIO_DIRECTSHOW=0

[laserfan]

Can't tell much without your settings or your log.
Seems like there's a rash of these lately, or maybe I'm just getting cranky! :p

I notice there's nothing in Post#1 (that I can find anyway) about how to post a bug report here.

[[SLiM]D12]

well for starters you could post the actual entire bd-rb logfile from the encoding with the failure & inspect at the bottom. Without it jdobbs probably will have no idea what you're talking about. He needs the error code

It's all good. Reducing the number of audio streams has resolved the issue.

[jdobbs]

D12;1525568']It's all good. Reducing the number of audio streams has resolved the issue. Sometimes when you keep HD audio (especially with numerous streams) you'll find that the audio alone is larger than the output target, making it impossible to fit it.

Since HD audio is essentially just a gimmick with no real benefit (proven by double-blind tests) -- I always suggest you reencode to Dolby Digital or just keep the core (uncheck "Keep HD audio"). That way you don't sacrifice video quality for non-existent audio improvements.

Just my humble opinion.

[[SLiM]D12]

Thx jdobbs, I and i'm sure many others value your true opinion.

[Capsbackup]

Hmm... I was going through the code and remembered that "yes", I did add a switch to disable this. Just add the following line to your INI file:

AUDIO_DIRECTSHOW=0

OK thanks. I will give that a try. :D
So I should leave Mixer checked and just use the switch in BD-RB?

[jdobbs]

OK thanks. I will give that a try. :D
So I should leave Mixer checked and just use the switch in BD-RB? If you use that switch it won't make a difference whether "Mixer" it is checked or not. NicDTSSource() doesn't use DirectShow/FFDSHOW.

[Ch3vr0n]

Just had this weird error. Any idea's?

-----------------------
[17:38:45] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: THE_PUNISHER
- Input BD size: 40,54 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:35:05.224]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:38:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:38:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00260]
- [17:38:48] Reencoding: VID_00260 (1 of 12)
- [17:38:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.440 frames
- Bitrate: 8.242 Kbs
- [17:38:48] Reencoding: VID_00260, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:39:05] Video Encode complete
- [17:39:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:39:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:39:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00262]
- [17:49:19] Reencoding: VID_00262 (2 of 12)
- [17:49:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 177.673 frames
- Bitrate: 16.323 Kbs
- [17:49:19] Reencoding: VID_00262, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:38:09] Video Encode complete
- [19:38:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:38:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:49:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00263]
- [19:49:39] Reencoding: VID_00263 (3 of 12)
- [19:49:39] Collecting video information
- [19:49:39] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [19:49:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:49:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:49:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00264]
- [19:49:40] DoEncoding() 00006 1607
[20:18:49] - Failed to complete.

If i try to resume the message changes to

- [20:18:54] DoEncoding() 00006 1509

[Rich86]

Sometimes when you keep HD audio (especially with numerous streams) you'll find that the audio alone is larger than the output target, making it impossible to fit it.

Since HD audio is essentially just a gimmick with no real benefit (proven by double-blind tests) -- I always suggest you reencode to Dolby Digital or just keep the core (uncheck "Keep HD audio"). That way you don't sacrifice video quality for non-existent audio improvements.

Just my humble opinion.

I agree that lossless audio codecs are not as dramatic an improvement over quality compressed audio as some folks like to suggest. However, if you have & use high quality home theater audio equipment (decoding, amplification & speakers), I find there IS an improvement in the audio. I always retain the lossless audio track if making a backup on BD, and am perfectly willing to stick to "movie only" mode to limit video quality degradation as much as possible.

[jdobbs]

I agree that lossless audio codecs are not as dramatic an improvement over quality compressed audio as some folks like to suggest. However, if you have & use high quality home theater audio equipment (decoding, amplification & speakers), I find there IS an improvement in the audio. I always retain the lossless audio track if making a backup on BD, and am perfectly willing to stick to "movie only" mode to limit video quality degradation as much as possible. If you think there is a difference and you want to keep HD audio, then more power to you.

But...

In all the double-blind tests in which people who think they can hear a difference are asked to identify the HD source compared to a compressed source, they all fail. The only requirement is that the compressed audio mean certain minmal criteria (in DD it is 640Kbs for a 5.1 source). I believe in science and engineering, and not black magic -- and in the scientific world the results of these tests would be considered a slam dunk.

[omegaman7]

Thank you for posting that JD. I'm gonna strongly consider at the very least compressing the HD audio now. Provided I don't lose channels, I believe I can be happy ;)

[Ch3vr0n]

Any idea on My issue JD? Currently running a different encode but it's about to finish. I'd love to be able to finish that other one

[jdobbs]

Thank you for posting that JD. I'm gonna strongly consider at the very least compressing the HD audio now. Provided I don't lose channels, I believe I can be happy ;) That's a good point. Non-HD audio typically is limited to 5.1 channels.

[jdobbs]

Any idea on My issue JD? Currently running a different encode but it's about to finish. I'd love to be able to finish that other one Not really. I know that 00006 is an overflow error (usually attempting to put a value that is too large into a variable). But I really can't see how I can get it at those points (1607 and 1509).

[Ch3vr0n]

I'll run the job again. See if it was a 1 time fluke. Disc in Question has EAN number 8 712609 665710. If the ISO fails again i'll then try an encode straight from the disc. I'll let you know

[Ch3vr0n]

JD: Good news. A full restart of the job did the trick. Looks like it was a 1 time fluke and BDRB didnt detect the IVTC on the first run probably. The first time after the extended mpeg2 scan it attempted to encode directly. The 2nd time it detected IVTC See the logfile below. VID_00264 was the problematic one

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[00:04:03] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: THE_PUNISHER
- Input BD size: 40,67 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:35:05.224]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[00:04:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:04:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00262]
- [00:18:24] Reencoding: VID_00262 (2 of 12)
- [00:18:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 177.673 frames
- Bitrate: 16.203 Kbs
- [00:18:24] Reencoding: VID_00262, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:28:37] Video Encode complete
- [02:28:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:28:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:41:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00263]
- [02:41:27] Reencoding: VID_00263 (3 of 12)
- [02:41:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.336 frames
- Bitrate: 9.322 Kbs
- [02:41:27] Reencoding: VID_00263, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:42:36] Video Encode complete
- [02:42:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:42:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:42:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00264]
- [02:42:59] Reencoding: VID_00264 (4 of 12)
- [02:42:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 8.030 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 4.846 Kbs
- [02:42:59] Reencoding: VID_00264, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:43:47] Video Encode complete
- [02:43:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:43:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:43:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00283]
- [02:44:08] Reencoding: VID_00283 (5 of 12)
- [02:44:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.369 frames
- Bitrate: 9.229 Kbs
- [02:44:08] Reencoding: VID_00283, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:45:38] Video Encode complete
- [02:45:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:45:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:45:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00284]
- [02:45:54] Reencoding: VID_00284 (6 of 12)
- [02:45:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.544 frames
- Bitrate: 9.322 Kbs
- [02:45:54] Reencoding: VID_00284, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:47:00] Video Encode complete
- [02:47:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:47:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:47:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00285]
- [02:47:07] Reencoding: VID_00285 (7 of 12)
- [02:47:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.632 frames
- Bitrate: 9.241 Kbs
- [02:47:07] Reencoding: VID_00285, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:47:52] Video Encode complete
- [02:47:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:47:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:47:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00286]
- [02:49:10] Reencoding: VID_00286 (8 of 12)
- [02:49:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 53.935 frames
- Bitrate: 4.848 Kbs
- [02:49:10] Reencoding: VID_00286, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:53:34] Video Encode complete
- [02:53:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:53:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:53:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00287]
- [02:54:13] Reencoding: VID_00287 (9 of 12)
- [02:54:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 11.470 frames
- Bitrate: 4.850 Kbs
- [02:54:13] Reencoding: VID_00287, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:55:03] Video Encode complete
- [02:55:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:55:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:55:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00288]
- [02:57:40] Reencoding: VID_00288 (10 of 12)
- [02:57:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 49.915 frames
- Bitrate: 4.848 Kbs
- [02:57:40] Reencoding: VID_00288, Pass 1 of 1
- [03:01:56] Video Encode complete
- [03:01:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:01:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:02:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00289]
- [03:02:22] Reencoding: VID_00289 (11 of 12)
- [03:02:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.580 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 4.763 Kbs
- [03:02:22] Reencoding: VID_00289, Pass 1 of 1
- [03:02:48] Video Encode complete
- [03:02:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:02:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:02:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00293]
- [03:03:01] Reencoding: VID_00293 (12 of 12)
- [03:03:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 6.140 frames
- Bitrate: 4.844 Kbs
- [03:03:01] Reencoding: VID_00293, Pass 1 of 1
- [03:03:29] Video Encode complete
- [03:03:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:03:29] Multiplexing M2TS
[03:03:32]PHASE ONE complete
[03:03:32]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [03:03:32] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[03:03:46] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[03:03:46] BURNING BD structure to disc
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- THE_PUNISHER folder removed.
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[03:17:18]JOB: THE_PUNISHER finished.


I did notice something on the final burn. The original had the PS3 folder "PS3_UPDATE", "PS3_VPRM" and the file "PS3_DISC.SFB" on it. Although the PS3 FOLDERS were correctly excluded from the burn, the file "PS3_DISC.FSB" WAS present on the burnt disc. Perhaps a small error in the code. That being said, the file is only 2kb in size so i doubt it has a big impact :p

[jdobbs]

Interesting -- good analysis, thanks for all the detail. Hmm... it makes sense that the error is in the MPEG-2 scan -- that would match the description you gave of where it happens. I should have caught that. The questions are: why does it act differently on different runs? and which variable is overflowing?

[Ch3vr0n]

VID_00289 also has IVTC so i "crossed my fingers" that it wouldnt jam on that one, went through the extended scan and encoding without a hitch. Anyway that would be your department to figure out what is happening, why & where. All i can say is that the rebuild worked & disc has been tested and worked like it should. Perhaps another look at the folder exclusion is needed too as the FSB file was included on the burn. Anyway, any progress on that idea of mine we pmed about a while back? Hope you've also made progress on the DTS-E front, cause i've got a dozen discs now that make use of it that i wanna back up :)

[setarip_old]

Hope you've also made progress on the DTS-E front, cause i've got a dozen discs now that make use of it that i wanna back up +1, if "DTS-E" is the same as DTS Express (Especially all of that World War II additional detail)...

[Rich86]

If you think there is a difference and you want to keep HD audio, then more power to you.

But...

In all the double-blind tests in which people who think they can hear a difference are asked to identify the HD source compared to a compressed source, they all fail. The only requirement is that the compressed audio mean certain minmal criteria (in DD it is 640Kbs for a 5.1 source). I believe in science and engineering, and not black magic -- and in the scientific world the results of these tests would be considered a slam dunk.

I also believe in factual assessments and try to avoid being suckered in by hype. With a modern home theater system, it is pretty easy to switch between and compare lossless audio vs. the compressed core and I feel confident I heard a slight improvement in detail with lossless audio when I experimented. However, I certainly did not attempt to set up and run a double blind test, so there is surely a possibility of kidding myself somewhat.

I'd be interested in seeing these professionally conducted and verified double blind tests that prove there is no difference between lossless audio & compressed audio on a high quality audio reproduction system. Are there some links available for us to read and learn? Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Interestingly most of the tests that I've seen reported were actually conducted by the same people who are "selling" you HD audio. There are lots of sources, but with a quick Google, here's a quote from the DTS Wiki:In the consumer (home theater) market, AC-3 and DTS are close in terms of audio performance. When the DTS audio track is encoded at its highest legal bitrate (1509.75 kbit/s), technical experts rank DTS as perceptually transparent for most audio program material (i.e., indistinguishable to the uncoded source in a double blind test). Dolby claims its competing AC-3 codec achieves similar transparency at its highest coded bitrate (640 kbit/s).

[AGKnotUser]

I went back and looked at the oversize problem I am having with "Disney's A Christmas Carol" and have new information:

The original disc is 33.7 GB. I used Clown_BD BD Copier to get the size down to 27.17 GB. Converted it to an ISO with ImgBurm, then ran BD-Rebuilder to fit it on a 25 GB disc. This is where I ran into the size problem.

An excerpt from the log shows what I think is the root of the problem:

[23:03:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [23:19:35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 70)
- [23:19:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [23:32:05] Collecting video information
- [23:32:05] Keeping original video (no reencode) <--------- Here's the problem
- [23:32:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:32:05] Multiplexing M2TS

When I look at the 00000.m2ts file the size is: 24.2 GB (26,051,844,096 bytes) all by itself, not including the other 69 VIDs.

Attached you will find the INI and LOG files.

[jdobbs]

I went back and looked at the oversize problem I am having with "Disney's A Christmas Carol" and have new information:

The original disc is 33.7 GB. I used Clown_BD BD Copier to get the size down to 27.17 GB. Converted it to an ISO with ImgBurm, then ran BD-Rebuilder to fit it on a 25 GB disc. This is where I ran into the size problem.

An excerpt from the log shows what I think is the root of the problem:

[23:03:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [23:19:35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 70)
- [23:19:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [23:32:05] Collecting video information
- [23:32:05] Keeping original video (no reencode) <--------- Here's the problem
- [23:32:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:32:05] Multiplexing M2TS

When I look at the 00000.m2ts file the size is: 24.2 GB (26,051,844,096 bytes) all by itself, not including the other 69 VIDs.

Attached you will find the INI and LOG files. I'm sorry, but as I've said many, many times -- I don't respoind to trouble reports on sources that have been preprocessed. There error historically almost always is a result of from the preprocessing.

Run BD-RB against the original -- and if you have an issue I will look at it.

[Rich86]

Interestingly most of the tests that I've seen reported were actually conducted by the same people who are "selling" you HD audio. There are lots of sources, but with a quick Google, here's a quote from the DTS Wiki:

Well, to me "perceptually transparent for most audio program material" means the differences are not noticeable most of the time, and I have no argument with that - even though it is a wiki quote that came from whomever. I'll try to track down some more definitive actual test results just for fun - tomorrow - football tonight . .

Football is done (it was a very fine football weekend for SF Bay Area fans!).
I came across a reference to this article. Just sharing it here - should probably start a new thread elsewhere if we want to discuss it further.
http://www.hemagazine.com/node/Dolby_TrueHD_DTS-MA_versus_Uncompressed_PCM

[jdobbs]

Sigh... that's really reaching. A double-blind test is scientific proof. If you can find scientific studies that prove to the contrary then I can listen -- but I'm confident you won't. The article you link is just some guys listening from chairs when they know which-is-which... hell that's not scientific, it is nonsense. I know of studies where people consistently identified one track as superior in quality to another --- when nothing had changed except the amplitude.

This is almost a religion -- and eventually it will come down to "faith". I'm really not that interested in talking about it anymore, as it divides people in to warring factions over an unimportant subject -- and frankly BD-RB already has the capability of keeping HD audio, so what's the point? Let's just drop it and get this thread back on topic.

[laserfan]

Let's just drop it and get this thread back on topic.
Yes, HD audio has been discussed (to death, many times!) already, and if anyone wants to keep everything on a BD, they need only burn BD-50s, right?

[Capsbackup]

Hmm... I was going through the code and remembered that "yes", I did add a switch to disable this. Just add the following line to your INI file:

AUDIO_DIRECTSHOW=0

This switch worked for me! :D Tried both multi-m2ts movies that had converted to DD 2.0, but now they convert to DD 5.1. :cool:
:thanks: jdobbs.

[jdobbs]

This switch worked for me! :D Tried both multi-m2ts movies that had converted to DD 2.0, but now they convert to DD 5.1. :cool:
:thanks: jdobbs. Great. I sure wish I knew why it was acting goofy, though. Maybe I should set NicDTSSource() back as the default and add a "SAMSUNG=" switch since that is the only player I've seen that appears to be affected by NicAudio's "inexactness" bug. Unfortunately it appears that NicAudio() and DirectShowSource() are the only options for audio decoding.

[Rich86]

Yes, HD audio has been discussed (to death, many times!) already, and if anyone wants to keep everything on a BD, they need only burn BD-50s, right?

Like I mentioned earlier - my focus is on getting the highest quality video and audio of the movie on a BD25. Using BDRE in movie only mode with the highest quality settings and including only the very best audio track plus a subtitle if needed works very well, thanks to the fine quality output available from jdobbs programs.

[Rich86]

Sigh... that's really reaching. A double-blind test is scientific proof. If you can find scientific studies that prove to the contrary then I can listen -- but I'm confident you won't. The article you link is just some guys listening from chairs when they know which-is-which... hell that's not scientific, it is nonsense. I know of studies where people consistently identified one track as superior in quality to another --- when nothing had changed except the amplitude.

This is almost a religion -- and eventually it will come down to "faith". I'm really not that interested in talking about it anymore, as it divides people in to warring factions over an unimportant subject -- and frankly BD-RB already has the capability of keeping HD audio, so what's the point? Let's just drop it and get this thread back on topic.

Finding folks sitting around talking about and posting comments on double blind test results they say they are aware of is easy . . finding an actual definitive report on a professionally conducted double blind test is not so easy. If I do come across something worthwhile I'll post it in a different thread. Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new release of BD-RB (v0.39.01). Changes for this release:- Corrected and issue in which certain types of
HDMV menus may not be flagged properly and as a
result they may not be processed as such.
- Corrected an error in which selected LPCM audio
sources from a multi-m2ts stream may cause AFTEN
to fail during reencoding.
- Changed default for IVTC selection. Some common
players appear to have playback difficulties with
AVC using 3:2 pulldown, resulting in "jerkiness".
- Added additional code to prevent encoding and/or
previewing failure on exceptionally small M2TS
sources.
- Corrected a problem in which it may be possible
for audio/pgs streams to be selected/deselected
and the effect doesn't ripple through all related
playlists via playlist siblings.
- Corrected an error in which angles that are a
part of the main feature MPLS could, under certain
circumstances be "quick encoded" rather than
following the required criteria of the MPLS.
- Corrected an error in which angles that are a
part of the main feature MPLS could under certain
circumstances not be encoded -- and as a result
might not match the coding type of the main
stream.
- Added a new "Unblock Chapter Skip" feature to
SETUP. This will get help you skip over those
annoying trailers at the beginning of discs that
force to to either watch or fast-forward through
them (ughh).
- Corrected a long-standing issue in which selection
or deselection of audio/subs could create issues
in stream lists that contain more than 255 items.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r2074).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r2074).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[xterminater]

Thank u very much for the new update! Can I ask if this version allows you to remove annoying trailers? And keep menu and movies only? Or is that still in the works :)

[jdobbs]

In the latest version of BD-RB (v0.39.01) I have added some undocumented features. I didn't want to make them widely available until there was some more widespread testing (so far I'm the only tester). The new features enable a "Movie and Menus" mode and also the ability to selectively blank playlists.

I expect that there will be a need for some additional tweaking before these features are ready for general consumption, so I ask that anyone who would like to test these features post anything they find in this thread.

---------------

1. In order to enable the new features, use the menu "File/View/Edit Config" and add this line to the config/INI file:

ENABLE_TEST=1

2. The "Movie and Menus" selection will now appear in the MODE menu.

3. Movie and Menus works by blanking any playlist (other than menus) that is less than 20 minutes long. The size of playlists to exclude, however, can be modified by setting a parameter called BLANK_THRESHOLD in the config/INI file. The parameter is set by specifying the threshold size (in seconds). The default is 1200 (20 minutes) so if you added this:

BLANK_THRESHOLD=1800

You would raise the threshold and anything less than 30 minutes would be excluded. A point to remember: The threshold isn't related to an individual M2TS file -- it is associated with PLAYLISTS.

4. Sometimes you might want to select for yourself which things to blank/unblank. You can do that by entering "Edit Mode". You enter edit mode by double-clicking on the title of the current disc (right next to the icon and above the Streams List). I may change the way of doing that later. Edit mode will not work unless you have ENABLE_TEST=1 set.

5. When in edit mode, streams that are selected for blanking will be "grayed out" in the streams display. When not in "Edit Mode" they are not visible.

6. "Edit Mode" can only be entered when using either "Full Backup" or "Movie and Menus" modes -- it will not work on a "Movie-Only" backup (for obvious reasons).

7. Also remember -- when you edit (blank or unblank), you selection works against a PlayList. So blanking/unblanking a single item can result in multiple items (any that are siblings to the selected items in any Playlist. Another point: Items that BD-RB has flagged as menus cannot be blanked (normally they won't even show up on a BD-25 backup, but will on a BD-9 because they have to be reencoded).

--------------------

You'll find that by using "Edit Mode" you can get some pretty nice effects. For example, if you select "Full Backup" mode, and then enter edit mode and blank the feature -- you can create a disc that contains only the extras. Combine that with movie-only mode and... you can now create a two disc backup that contains all features of a disc.

You may also find that menus might not be correctly identified 100% of the time... but it's close, and I'm looking for ways to make it more accurate.

Anyway -- please play with it and let me know what you think. Any suggestions for making it more usable will also be appreciated -- but please be reasonable.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Thank u very much for the new update! Can I ask if this version allows you to remove annoying trailers? And keep menu and movies only? Or is that still in the works :) Read the post immediately following yours.

[xterminater]

Yea i just saw this after i posted it lol...

[xterminater]

jdobbs, I am trying out that new feature now. Will keep you updated on what happens. I am doing a BD9 of The Dark Knight and keeping the extras, bitrate is only 1900 so does that seem too low of a quality? Consider the movie is 2hr30min long and extra is an hour long! How should I go and put extra on a second disc, preferrably a bd5 and still keep menu? I'm guessing this is how I would do it?

Select movie and menu mode, then blank out that 1 hour extra using edit mode, then I will have a bd9 with just the main movie and a menu. Then once that finish encoding, just do the same but blank out the main movie, and keeping the 1hr feature?

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, I am trying out that new feature now. Will keep you updated on what happens. I am doing a BD9 of The Dark Knight and keeping the extras, bitrate is only 1900 so does that seem too low of a quality? Consider the movie is 2hr30min long and extra is an hour long! How should I go and put extra on a second disc, preferrably a bd5 and still keep menu? I'm guessing this is how I would do it?

Select movie and menu mode, then blank out that 1 hour extra using edit mode, then I will have a bd9 with just the main movie and a menu. Then once that finish encoding, just do the same but blank out the main movie, and keeping the 1hr feature?

Not sure I understand completely what you're asking. How you want to encode is sorta' up to you. Go into edit mode and look for other extras that are longer than 20 minutes, and see if you want to blank those. A 2.5 hour movie on a BD-9 should be somewhere over 6Mbs assuming a couple of audio tracks. The menus typically are pretty small so I wouldn't think they count for much.

You could set the threshold to 70 minutes and do "movie and menus" to one disc, then set "Full backup" and blank the feature on the second one. I would guess that BD-5 would be fine for the extras -- but I don't know how much there is.

[xterminater]

You mention from the post above that we should be able to do some nice effects, such as making a 2 disc back up having movie on one disc and extras on the other disc, which is what I'm trying to achieve. It was my fault, I looked at the wrong track, the 1900kpbs was the extra being re-encoded instead of the main feature. I am keeping only one audio track, the true-hd which have 640kpbs audio bitrate, regular AC3 I believe. I will report back what the main feature bitrate will be tomorrow once it finish encoding. I took off the extra and just encode the main movie previously just to see what the bitrate is and it was reporting 4948kbps which is in the ballpark of what you said about 6Mpbs.

[owine]

jdobbs you continue to impress with your work. I will be running a couple of discs overnight in Menu and Movie mode, I will report my findings. Thank you again for your fantastic software development.

[omegaman7]

Jdobbs. Thank you for sharing the ability to blank. I'll be testing it too. And this friday, I'll try and throw something your way. ;)

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Hi!You'll find that by using "Edit Mode" you can get some pretty nice effects. For example, if you select "Full Backup" mode, and then enter edit mode and blank the feature -- you can create a disc that contains only the feature. Combine that with movie-only mode and... you can now create a two disc backup that contains all features of a disc.Does this mean that, exactly as I suggested in my August 26th post regarding DTS Express:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1522094&postcount=1

that if you, jdobbs, were to allow the inclusion of UNTOUCHABLE/UNCONVERTED (other than splitting) DTS Express tracks, we would now be able to include the DTS Express track(s) on a two disc backup?

**EDIT** Based on jdobbs revision of his earlier post, I believe that what I suggested is still not possible. Please correct me if actually CAN be done ;>}

[longtom]

Thanks for the update to 0.39.01
Any timeframe for the forced subtitles?

[colinhunt]

New functionality in 0.39.01: wow! Can't wait to test it out; kudos for all the hard work, jdobbs!

[RobertM]

Hi JDobbs,

Kudos on this new feature set in 39.01. BDRB just gets better and better.

Some initial observations; minor stuff (do you want this f/b here, in the "bugs" thread, or should this maybe in the "features" thread?).

1. When I manually blank an item there is sometimes no visual indication that anything has changed until I move off that item and can then see the new, grey background. Not a problem when there are sibling playlist items nearby, because they "grey-out" right away and I can see immediately that something has changed. Perhaps you could change the blanked item's "film" icon to a red X, which would be consistent with what you do when you de-select audio and subtitle items.

2. When I expand (double-click) a blanked video item the associated audio and subtitle content is not greyed out. Perhaps they should be greyed-out too, to reinforce the fact that this content will also also blanked.

3. I like seeing the "this clip is set to be blanked" subtitle when previewing a blanked item -- neat. But there is no indication in the preview window of which item is currently being viewed, and the hi-light in the BDRB window disappears when the preview window takes focus; I have to click on the BDRB window again to remind myself which clip is playing. Can BDRB retain its hi-light when it looses focus, or is there a Windows limitation here?

4. How about allowing resizing of the app window -- especially vertically. It would be nice to see more of the list of streams, now that we will be playing around with these items more often.

5. In your description of how the new features work you state:
if you select "Full Backup" mode, and then enter edit mode and blank the feature -- you can create a disc that contains only the feature. That last word seems wrong.

6. Entering "edit" mode by double-clicking the title felt a little non-intuitive at first. I wonder if there really needs to be an "edit mode" at all. Maybe you could allow stream blanking at all times, and just have a "Show blanked streams" checkbox at the top of the "Stream" tab. I dunno.


Anyway, thanks again, and keep up the good work.

[jdobbs]

1. When I manually blank an item there is sometimes no visual indication that anything has changed until I move off that item and can then see the new, grey background. Not a problem when there are sibling playlist items nearby, because they "grey-out" right away and I can see immediately that something has changed. Perhaps you could change the blanked item's "film" icon to a red X, which would be consistent with what you do when you de-select audio and subtitle items.The red X makes perfect sense. I'm asking myself why I didn't think of that to make it consistent. :confused:2. When I expand (double-click) a blanked video item the associated audio and subtitle content is not greyed out. Perhaps they should be greyed-out too, to reinforce the fact that this content will also also blanked. I'll look at this and see how hard it will be.3. I like seeing the "this clip is set to be blanked" subtitle when previewing a blanked item -- neat. But there is no indication in the preview window of which item is currently being viewed, and the hi-light in the BDRB window disappears when the preview window takes focus; I have to click on the BDRB window again to remind myself which clip is playing. Can BDRB retain its hi-light when it looses focus, or is there a Windows limitation here? Good idea. That probably should have been added long ago.4. How about allowing resizing of the app window -- especially vertically. It would be nice to see more of the list of streams, now that we will be playing around with these items more often. I'll look at that as well.5. In your description... Yep, that statement was ass-backwards. I'll edit it.6. Entering "edit" mode by double-clicking the title felt a little non-intuitive at first. I wonder if there really needs to be an "edit mode" at all. Maybe you could allow stream blanking at all times, and just have a "Show blanked streams" checkbox at the top of the "Stream" tab. I dunno. I don't really like the idea of leaving them on by default. It clutters the screen and makes things look too complicated for those who aren't into "advanced features". I agree that the double-click is a little goofy -- I need to come up with something else (either a small button or a menu item).

[MrT.]

Thank you for the update and new features.
I'm trying to blank some angles, there is 10 of them and are 500mb ish.
"Blank this item" is greyed out. I have enabled test.
I have output set to bd25, and full backup.
Is it because it is angle? and not possible?

[jdobbs]

Thank you for the update and new features.
I'm trying to blank some angles, there is 10 of them and are 500mb ish.
"Blank this item" is greyed out. I have enabled test.
I have output set to bd25, and full backup.
Is it because it is angle? and not possible?
Are you in "Edit Mode"? You can blank an angle -- but unfortunately since it is typically linked to other playback items which have a common playlist, they must all be blanked. If you are in "Edit Mode" and it is still disabled, it may be connected to a menu and isn't really an "angle". Sometimes there are short video sequences that appear to be angles -- but they are actually transition videos for selection actions from a menu.

[MrT.]

how do I enter Edit mode? I looked around but could not figure it out.

[jdobbs]

how do I enter Edit mode? I looked around but could not figure it out. It's outlined in my post about "ENABLE_TEST". You double-click on the name of the selected disc at the top of the streams list. A small "Edit" box will appear when it is enabled.

You cannot enter "edit" when "Movie-Only" is selected.

[MrT.]

thanks jdobbs
when I blank an angle, it blanks all the other angles and movie.

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
Thanks for the Edit feature :)
I normally do my backups on BD5@720, movie only, or perhaps from now on possibly movie + menu. I notice that menus are not resized to 720. I use crf prediction mode, and some of the menu clips get a crf of say 35 and turn out to be blocky (reminds me on the mpeg2 days...). I wonder whether the blockyness would be less if menus would also be resized to 720 (i.e. same as feature)? Is there a good reason why menus are not getting resized?

[k-c-ksum]

Just wanted to give you an update. I did BOURNE SUPREMACY and for me the secondary channels encoded correctly (23.976, progressive). Are you sure your source isn't corrupted or has been modified by any preprocessing?

done fast five and that comes out progressive :)

i'll get back to the bournes soon., dont know if makes any diffrence but fast five was avc were as Bourne was vc1

[jdobbs]

thanks jdobbs
when I blank an angle, it blanks all the other angles and movie. It's supposed to. Otherwise the authoring will fail.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Thanks for the Edit feature :)
I normally do my backups on BD5@720, movie only, or perhaps from now on possibly movie + menu. I notice that menus are not resized to 720. I use crf prediction mode, and some of the menu clips get a crf of say 35 and turn out to be blocky (reminds me on the mpeg2 days...). I wonder whether the blockyness would be less if menus would also be resized to 720 (i.e. same as feature)? Is there a good reason why menus are not getting resized? You can't resize the menu. Otherwise the HDMV or BD-J menuing action/positioning will fail. They are generally done out-of-mux.

[jdobbs]

done fast five and that comes out progressive :)

i'll get back to the bournes soon., dont know if makes any diffrence but fast five was avc were as Bourne was vc1 I just looked at "Bourne Supremacy" and the one I did (that came out correctly) was also VC-1.

[acki]

Hi,

I'm running version v0.38.09 (beta), windows 7 home premium 64 bit, with everything "Ok" when running inspect. I created a batch for 6 blurays and I got exactly the same error message in every one of them:


-----------------------
[18:43:04] BD Rebuilder v0.38.09 (beta)
- Source: QUE_ME_IMPORTA
- Input BD size: 35,32 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:07.846]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[18:43:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:43:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [18:43:27] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 3)
- [18:43:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.416 frames
- Bitrate: 15.660 Kbs
- [18:43:27] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:44:52] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:50:56] Video Encode complete
- [18:50:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00009_4352.AVS]
[18:50:57] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted


Contents of AUD_00009_4352.AVS

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\BD-RBV03809\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00009.track_4352.ac3").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))



It seems that Aften doesn't like the "DTS-HD XLL" reported tracks. Any clue ?

And the million dollar question... is there an easy way to take advantage of the already compressed video and not have to re-compress again? I guess that playing with tsmuxer and bdedit I could get somewhere... but if there is an easier way, I'd love to hear.

Thanks.

[Sharc]

You can't resize the menu. Otherwise the HDMV or BD-J menuing action/positioning will fail. They are generally done out-of-mux.
I see, thank you.
Anyway, 2-pass encoding solved the problem as these critical menu files got more bitrate allocated compared to the crf prediction mode.

[xterminater]

worked great on a bd50 to bd9 backup non java bluray! jdobbs, if there is an asterik (*) beside the stream number, ie.. IVD_00388* does that mean those are dependent of another playlist? Is it ok to blank these out, or will it mess with the bluray structure? The reason why I want to blank them is for unecessary ads and logos of a bluray.

[MrT.]

It's supposed to. Otherwise the authoring will fail.
I don't understand. When I block one thing, the entire Blu-ray is grayed out and blocked, leaving nothing to shrink.

[jdobbs]

I don't understand. When I block one thing, the entire Blu-ray is grayed out and blocked, leaving nothing to shrink. It's complicated. The way a disc plays back anything is determined by playlists. A playlist can consist of multiple parts (M2TS/CLPI combinations). In addition, an M2TS/CLPI combination might be a part of more than one playlist. You can't just blank one part of a playlist, you have to do it as a whole -- if you didn't you might get a movie or extra that has a hole right in the middle of it.

So when you decide to blank something -- the decision has to ripple through every sibling in that playlist, and any other linked playlists.

In other words, if you decide to blank an angle for a main feature -- you are also deciding to blank the entire main feature, and therefore angles aren't really "ripe" for blanking.

[MrT.]

ok, thank you for the explanation.

Would "quicker encode for extras" be good to enable in this case? The main feature film is 33 GB and all the extras, angle parts are around 500mb. Would BD-RB see those 500mb parts as extras? and does this do anything to aid the main features video quality?

[xterminater]

Jdobbs, many bluray now comes out with dvd copy and digital copy on the bluray itself, including several that I own. Is there a feature in bd-rb that let us remove those unecessary video files to save bitrate?

[jdobbs]

ok, thank you for the explanation.

Would "quicker encode for extras" be good to enable in this case? The main feature film is 33 GB and all the extras, angle parts are around 500mb. Would BD-RB see those 500mb parts as extras? and does this do anything to aid the main features video quality? Now that I think about it, though, you could redirect the alternate angles so they point to the primary angle. But that'd be a project for another day.

500MB isn't going to get you much. In a case like that you're probably better to do a just full backup and possibly blank any annoying trailors, warnings or other items that happen automatically at startup.

[Capsbackup]

Jdobbs, many bluray now comes out with dvd copy and digital copy on the bluray itself, including several that I own. Is there a feature in bd-rb that let us remove those unecessary video files to save bitrate?

Go to Settings, then Setup, and select "Keep Only BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders". :cool:
Or you could just remove/delete the unecessary extra folders from your source if you ripped the disc to folders with AnyDVD HD. ;)

[xterminater]

Go to Settings, then Setup, and select "Keep Only BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders". :cool:
Or you could just remove/delete the unecessary extra folders from your source if you ripped the disc to folders with AnyDVD HD. ;)

So you're saying that the digital copy and the dvd copy is in a dif folder structure rather than the BDMV? I analyzed the bluray with multiavchd and bdinfo and saw a 480p video stream along with the 1080p one. But there is no extra folder though, that's the part I'm lost.

[Capsbackup]

So you're saying that the digital copy and the dvd copy is in a dif folder structure rather than the BDMV? I analyzed the bluray with multiavchd and bdinfo and saw a 480p video stream along with the 1080p one. But there is no extra folder though, that's the part I'm lost.

The only two folders you need for Blu-ray backups are BDMV and CERTIFICATE. The other folders will contain the extra material. ( ex. DCOPY, etc...)
The 480P video stream you saw with BDInfo is the secondary video for the movie, and this cannot be removed. :(

[xterminater]

ohhhh i c... so what is the 480p stream for? Is that for extra features? and also what about bluray that have both 3D and 2D stream? Is BD-RB able to remove the 3D and keep the 2D only?

[Capsbackup]

ohhhh i c... so what is the 480p stream for? Is that for extra features? and also what about bluray that have both 3D and 2D stream? Is BD-RB able to remove the 3D and keep the 2D only?

The 480P stream is an extra on the Blu-ray, a PiP ( Picture-in-Picture ) feature with usually the director and actors discussing the making of the film while the movie is played.
BD-RB does not, at this time, work with 3D Blu-rays.

[xterminater]

Thanks for the explanation. I think I'll do BD25 backups for any movie that is more than 3 hour long with extras! Anything less BD9 is fine :)

[setarip_old]

I used v.38.09 to make a FULL DISC backup of "Thomas and Friends - Day of the Diesel".

The main movie is 1080i. I wanted to convert it to 1080p (for subsequent use with another tool), so I selected "Deinterlace" under "Setup".

When the task was completed, I was disappointed/confused to note that the main movie had remained as 1080i.

I tried a second time, adding "Deinterlacer Type=4" (Progressive "Fake") to the .INI file. This yielded the same result. Am I misunderstanding something (Which wouldn't be too unusual)? Does the "Deinterlace" function not work with the main movie, or have I come across a bug.

Realistically, I find it hard to believe that a function that's been around for so long is faulty - but you never know...

**EDIT** I just noticed that a couple of the "Extras", originally 480i, also remained unchanged

[acki]

Hi again.

I don't mean to be rude... but my post http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1526507#post1526507 was completely ignored. I was looking for similar problems to check wether they were fixed, but found none.

Unless I'm missing something, I'd say this is a bug and like so, should be addressed... or am I wrong ?

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.

[jdobbs]

Hi again.

I don't mean to be rude... but my post http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1526507#post1526507 was completely ignored. I was looking for similar problems to check wether they were fixed, but found none.

Unless I'm missing something, I'd say this is a bug and like so, should be addressed... or am I wrong ?

Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience.Please note this text from the first post of this thread:If you decide to download and test -- please post any errors you find in this thread. Don't push bug resolution or keep asking for a fix. I will get to the reported bugs, but only when I can find the time. Can you please post the contents of AUD_00009_4352.AVS and AUD_00009.meta? BD-RB works with any type of legal BD audio format except DTS-E in secondary titles.

[jdobbs]

I used v.38.09 to make a FULL DISC backup of "Thomas and Friends - Day of the Diesel".

The main movie is 1080i. I wanted to convert it to 1080p (for subsequent use with another tool), so I selected "Deinterlace" under "Setup".

When the task was completed, I was disappointed/confused to note that the main movie had remained as 1080i.

I tried a second time, adding "Deinterlacer Type=4" (Progressive "Fake") to the .INI file. This yielded the same result. Am I misunderstanding something (Which wouldn't be too unusual)? Does the "Deinterlace" function not work with the main movie, or have I come across a bug.

Realistically, I find it hard to believe that a function that's been around for so long is faulty - but you never know...

**EDIT** I just noticed that a couple of the "Extras", originally 480i, also remained unchanged I'll check out the 1080i and see what's up. But 480i will never be converted because 480p is illegal in Blu-Ray (except as a secondary track to a progressive primary). Also -- if you set Deinterlacer to "Fake" it will always still show as interlaced, that's what "fake" means (making a progressive source appear interlaced to make it legal).

[acki]

Please note this text from the first post of this thread:


Yes, sorry. I didn't mean to be pushy. My apologies.


Can you please post the contents of AUD_00009_4352.AVS and AUD_00009.meta? BD-RB works with any type of legal BD audio format except DTS-E in secondary titles.

Ok, there you go:

AUD_00009_4352.AVS

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\BD-RBV03809\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00009.track_4352.ac3").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))


AUD_00009.meta

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\Blurays\QUE_ME_IMPORTA\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_AC3, "G:\Blurays\QUE_ME_IMPORTA\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng


And just in case, contents of audio.bat:

"C:\BD-RBV03809\BD_Rebuilder\tools\wavi.exe" "G:\TRABAJO\WORK_QUE_ME_IMPORTA\WORKFILES\AUD_00009_4352.AVS"
- | "C:\BD-RBV03809\BD_Rebuilder\tools\aften.exe" -v 1 -b 224 -readtoeof 1
- "G:\TRABAJO\WORK_QUE_ME_IMPORTA\WORKFILES\AUD_00009_4352.AC3"


So I've got 6 workfiles folders with compressed h264 files, sup subtitle files and uncompressed audio tracks. Is there a workaround, say that I manually compress the audio and BD-RB sort of continue the process ?

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Ok, I'm confused. :confused: In your first post you said that track was "DTS-HD XLL" -- but in these files it shows the source to be AC3?

[omegaman7]

I ran "Drag me to Hell" last night. I attempted to blank the theatrical title, while maintaining the directors cut title(no seamless branching). The output folder was 12.9Gb. I find this very interesting. Because had I kept both titles, they would both end up ~10Gb. It's almost as though rebuilder felt like it still needed to compress the kept title. I guess for the time being, I could implement FORCE_NOENCODE. But if I'm not mistaken, it wouldn't compress anything. Thereby making the output to large. I have to compress the extras, or the main title slightly. Or it'll be over by ~3.1Gb.

LOL!, Looks like I kept the wrong title anyway. I assumed the longer one was the Directors cut. Which is apparently not the case. The blanking appears to work perfectly JD. I tried to play the Directors cut, and it returns to the menu almost immediately :)


-----------------------
[00:04:13] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: DRAG_ME_TO_HELL
- Input BD size: 45.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:04:17.684]
- Target BD size: 23.00 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[00:04:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:04:15] Processing: VID_00078 (1 of 19)
- [00:04:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [00:04:17] Reencoding video [VID_00078]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,128 frames
- [00:04:17] Reencoding: VID_00078, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:04:33] Video Encode complete
- [00:04:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:04:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:04:35] Processing: VID_00061 (2 of 19)
- [00:04:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
- [00:04:37] Reencoding video [VID_00061]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,296 frames
- Bitrate: 2,040 Kbs
- [00:04:37] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:05:01] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:06:01] Video Encode complete
- [00:06:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:06:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:06:03] Processing: VID_00062 (3 of 19)
- [00:06:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [00:06:05] Reencoding video [VID_00062]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,560 frames
- Bitrate: 3,675 Kbs
- [00:06:05] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:06:39] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:08:13] Video Encode complete
- [00:08:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:08:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:08:15] Processing: VID_00011 (4 of 19)
- [00:08:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [00:08:18] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,300 frames
- Bitrate: 7,537 Kbs
- [00:08:18] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:09:21] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:13:06] Video Encode complete
- [00:13:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:13:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:13:07] Processing: VID_00097 (5 of 19)
- [00:13:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00097]
- [00:13:10] Reencoding video [VID_00097]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,345 frames
- Bitrate: 7,469 Kbs
- [00:13:10] Reencoding: VID_00097, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:14:08] Reencoding: VID_00097, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:17:42] Video Encode complete
- [00:17:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:17:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:17:44] Processing: VID_00094 (6 of 19)
- [00:17:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [00:17:47] Reencoding video [VID_00094]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,589 frames
- Bitrate: 7,489 Kbs
- [00:17:47] Reencoding: VID_00094, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:18:51] Reencoding: VID_00094, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:23:03] Video Encode complete
- [00:23:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:23:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:23:05] Processing: VID_00091 (7 of 19)
- [00:23:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00091]
- [00:23:08] Reencoding video [VID_00091]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,852 frames
- Bitrate: 7,480 Kbs
- [00:23:08] Reencoding: VID_00091, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:24:28] Reencoding: VID_00091, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:29:17] Video Encode complete
- [00:29:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:29:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:29:19] Processing: VID_00089 (8 of 19)
- [00:29:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00089]
- [00:29:22] Reencoding video [VID_00089]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,297 frames
- Bitrate: 7,471 Kbs
- [00:29:22] Reencoding: VID_00089, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:30:50] Reencoding: VID_00089, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:36:03] Video Encode complete
- [00:36:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:36:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:36:05] Processing: VID_00092 (9 of 19)
- [00:36:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [00:36:09] Reencoding video [VID_00092]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,335 frames
- Bitrate: 7,507 Kbs
- [00:36:09] Reencoding: VID_00092, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:37:31] Reencoding: VID_00092, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:42:43] Video Encode complete
- [00:42:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:42:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:42:45] Processing: VID_00093 (10 of 19)
- [00:42:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
- [00:42:50] Reencoding video [VID_00093]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,897 frames
- Bitrate: 7,463 Kbs
- [00:42:50] Reencoding: VID_00093, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:44:36] Reencoding: VID_00093, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:50:58] Video Encode complete
- [00:50:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:50:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:51:01] Processing: VID_00087 (11 of 19)
- [00:51:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00087]
- [00:51:05] Reencoding video [VID_00087]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,961 frames
- Bitrate: 7,492 Kbs
- [00:51:05] Reencoding: VID_00087, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:52:49] Reencoding: VID_00087, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:59:12] Video Encode complete
- [00:59:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:59:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:59:15] Processing: VID_00096 (12 of 19)
- [00:59:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
- [00:59:19] Reencoding video [VID_00096]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,150 frames
- Bitrate: 7,487 Kbs
- [00:59:19] Reencoding: VID_00096, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:01:14] Reencoding: VID_00096, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:08:01] Video Encode complete
- [01:08:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:08:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:08:04] Processing: VID_00095 (13 of 19)
- [01:08:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [01:08:09] Reencoding video [VID_00095]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,219 frames
- Bitrate: 7,495 Kbs
- [01:08:09] Reencoding: VID_00095, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:10:03] Reencoding: VID_00095, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:16:56] Video Encode complete
- [01:16:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:16:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:16:59] Processing: VID_00098 (14 of 19)
- [01:16:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00098]
- [01:17:04] Reencoding video [VID_00098]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,225 frames
- Bitrate: 7,482 Kbs
- [01:17:04] Reencoding: VID_00098, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:18:57] Reencoding: VID_00098, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:25:31] Video Encode complete
- [01:25:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:25:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:25:33] Processing: VID_00088 (15 of 19)
- [01:25:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00088]
- [01:25:38] Reencoding video [VID_00088]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,272 frames
- Bitrate: 7,469 Kbs
- [01:25:38] Reencoding: VID_00088, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:27:35] Reencoding: VID_00088, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:34:18] Video Encode complete
- [01:34:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:34:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:34:21] Processing: VID_00099 (16 of 19)
- [01:34:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00099]
- [01:34:26] Reencoding video [VID_00099]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,453 frames
- [01:34:26] Reencoding: VID_00099, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:35:52] Video Encode complete
- [01:35:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:35:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:35:57] Processing: VID_00090 (17 of 19)
- [01:35:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
- [01:36:02] Reencoding video [VID_00090]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,658 frames
- Bitrate: 7,490 Kbs
- [01:36:02] Reencoding: VID_00090, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:38:09] Reencoding: VID_00090, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:45:24] Video Encode complete
- [01:45:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:45:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:45:27] Blanking: VID_00010 (18 of 19)
- [01:45:27] Processing: VID_00082 (19 of 19)
- [01:45:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00082]
- [01:50:39] Reencoding video [VID_00082]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 142,556 frames
- Bitrate: 8,289 Kbs
- [01:50:39] Reencoding: VID_00082, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:50:26] Reencoding: VID_00082, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:19:46] Video Encode complete
- [06:19:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:19:47] Multiplexing M2TS
[06:27:11]PHASE ONE complete
[06:27:11]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:27:11] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[06:27:24] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[06:27:24]JOB: DRAG_ME_TO_HELL finished.

[MrT.]

Thanks for the help jdobbs.
I opted to do "Movie only". There just was no other way to get rid of the unwanted videos parts.
I will be using the blank feature in days/weeks ahead for sure, will let you know of any problems.

I will also try Movie and Menu only. But will this result in a extended delay before menu shows? I tried this with DVDRB ages ago, but didn't like the delay. Preferred the trailers/warning to show, that way I could select "menu" on remote.
I guess I could try and test it out myself...lol.
But if there is a delay, is it possible to do movie and menu+all the warning and trailers before menu pops up?

[omegaman7]

I despised the delay as well. I dealt with it by either using Dvdfab, or PGCedit and forcing it to go to the main movie or menu immediately. Although Disney movies can be tricky...

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the help jdobbs.
I opted to do "Movie only". There just was no other way to get rid of the unwanted videos parts.
I will be using the blank feature in days/weeks ahead for sure, will let you know of any problems.

I will also try Movie and Menu only. But will this result in a extended delay before menu shows? I tried this with DVDRB ages ago, but didn't like the delay. Preferred the trailers/warning to show, that way I could select "menu" on remote.
I guess I could try and test it out myself...lol.
But if there is a delay, is it possible to do movie and menu+all the warning and trailers before menu pops up? It shouldn't delay except for the time it takes to load the blank replacements for any forced extras (like previews) that were set to play be for the main menu. Each of those are replaced by a .5 second (12 frame) blank stream.

[jdobbs]

@Omegaman

Hmm... with the output being that small, it shouldn't have reencoded unless FORCE_ENCODE=1 was set. I'll have to look at that. In the meantime you can always set FORCE_NOENCODE=1 to keep the original.

[omegaman7]

Are you suggesting I used FORCE_REENCODE=1? I can't think of any reason that I'd ever use it :confused:

Ahh, ok. I was under the impression that FORCE NO ENCODE, was simply a way of rebuilding the structure, and absolutely no encoding was done. So it still reencodes the extras? Good to know.

[jdobbs]

Are you suggesting I used FORCE_REENCODE=1? I can't think of any reason that I'd ever use it :confused: I have no idea whether you used it. My point was that based on what I see in your log and your statement that the output size was 12.9GB -- the output shouldn't have been reencoded. I'm trying to figure out why it was.

[omegaman7]

Sorry, your original statement had me confused. You apparently updated it. It's much more clear now :p

[jdobbs]

Sorry, your original statement had me confused. You apparently updated it. It's much more clear now :p I somehow hit submit by mistake and got a half/sentence posted before I was done... ;)

[omegaman7]

I also have "Dark City", which is structured very similarly to Drag me to hell. I'll be running that one too, and see what happens.

[acki]

Ok, I'm confused. :confused: In your first post you said that track was "DTS-HD XLL" -- but in these files it shows the source to be AC3?

Weird... because there were 2 DTS-HD-XLL tracks and some other tracks in ac3 -commentaries, and such-. I'm confused myself too :confused:

Ok, another one from the batch. The important parts:

End of log:

- [05:20:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00000_4352.AVS]
[05:20:38] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted


AUD_00000_4352.AVS

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.38.09 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\BD-RBV03809\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("00000.track_4352.dts").Amplify(1.2)
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))


AUD_00000.meta

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=eng
A_AC3, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng
A_AC3, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4354, lang=eng
A_AC3, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4355, lang=eng
A_AC3, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", track=4356, lang=eng
A_DTS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", down-to-dts, track=4357, lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4609,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4610,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4611,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4612,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4613,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4614,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4615,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4616,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4617,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4618,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "G:\TRABAJO\LOS_ULTIMOS_LOCOS\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4619,lang=spa


and a "dir" of the folder:

14/09/2011 19:27 1.206.106.916 00000.track_4352.dts
14/09/2011 19:27 153.460.992 00000.track_4353.ac3
14/09/2011 19:27 153.460.992 00000.track_4354.ac3
14/09/2011 19:27 153.460.992 00000.track_4355.ac3
14/09/2011 19:27 153.460.992 00000.track_4356.ac3
14/09/2011 19:27 1.206.104.500 00000.track_4357.dts
14/09/2011 19:27 19.444.184 00000.track_4608.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 42.223 00000.track_4609.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 3.059.985 00000.track_4610.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 3.974.831 00000.track_4611.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 2.254.513 00000.track_4612.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 2.743.484 00000.track_4613.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 24.357.815 00000.track_4614.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 54.996 00000.track_4615.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 61.406.409 00000.track_4616.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 69.080.632 00000.track_4617.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 64.307.371 00000.track_4618.sup
14/09/2011 19:27 63.359.957 00000.track_4619.sup
15/09/2011 05:20 319 audio.bat
14/09/2011 18:50 2.915 AUD_00000.meta
14/09/2011 19:27 243 AUD_00000_4352.AVS
14/09/2011 19:27 243 AUD_00000_4353.AVS
14/09/2011 19:27 243 AUD_00000_4354.AVS
14/09/2011 19:27 243 AUD_00000_4355.AVS
14/09/2011 19:27 243 AUD_00000_4356.AVS
14/09/2011 19:27 243 AUD_00000_4357.AVS
14/09/2011 19:27 254 VID_00000.AVS
15/09/2011 05:20 20.623.855.975 VID_00000.AVS.264
14/09/2011 21:13 18.131.245 VID_00000.AVS.264.stats
14/09/2011 19:27 365 VID_00000.CHP


I guess that's all the data I can provide... if you need any other thing that may help, let me know.

Thanks.

[Ch3vr0n]

I'm testing the new edit function and find atm that it triggers too much to be "blanked". I just inserted Fast & Furious 5 in edit mode. BDRB auto "blanked" stuff but selected not only trailer parts but also streams that were over 2GB in size and actual bonus features. Thats why they call it a beta feature i guess. I just check every stream in blank mode and confirm it may be blanked :)

[jdobbs]

I'm testing the new edit function and find atm that it triggers too much to be "blanked". I just inserted Fast & Furious 5 in edit mode. BDRB auto "blanked" stuff but selected not only trailer parts but also streams that were over 2GB in size and actual bonus features. Thats why they call it a beta feature i guess. I just check every stream in blank mode and confirm it may be blanked :) That's how it's supposed to work. By default anything that is less than 20 minutes long is removed. The 20 minute threshold is adjustable to whatever you want -- make it 1 minute, 5 minutes, 30 seconds -- your choice. There's nothing special that could be used to distinguish a trailer or annoying notice from any other "Extra", so picking a time threshold is pretty much the only choice we have for auto-editing.

Of course you also have the ability to edit it and blank/unblank as you see fit.

[Ch3vr0n]

That's just it. i adjusted it to 1 minute, still triggered em. Probably due to the linked blanking :)

[jdobbs]

I did a lot of testing -- and never had an issue at all with length of time??? Are you sure you put the correct INI entry in (spelling etc)? I guess I'll have to look around for F&F5. 1 min is pretty small for a playlist, so you'd think very few would be blanked.

[Ch3vr0n]

hold off on that for a while. Apparantly the code BLANK_THRESHOLD=60 wasnt present in the config file anymore. Something i saw was that it flags "static" streams for blanking aswell. Ya know background image stuff or that "pocket-blue" screen. The Universal "rotating logo pause screen" also got triggered for blanking. The BD-Live "loading a fresh preview" also got flagged. I'm just saying all this just because it may help. However the important part is that the stuff that needs to be blanked for real also got flagged. Kudos on that.

The reason alot got flagged is probably cause FF5 has a crapload of small streams. Anyway if i may offer 2 suggestions on improving that for the future. A way to set the "blank timer" via a submenu like item such as in alternate movie only output. Textbox of some kind, under the movie & edit mode. Another suggestion would be to auto enable the editing when that mode is selected and not having to "double click" :)

[omegaman7]

I had to quadruple click :p Though I'm probably doing something wrong.

[Sharc]

Here an observation with Auto-Blank:
The first clip is the static language selection picture for selecting the language of the subsequent copyright warnings. It got auto-blanked, but playback was eventually halted, waiting for the input from the remote to select the copyright language. In order to move forward I had to blindly select a language (the white cursor was visible but without the text from the blanked picture). From there onwards the regular menu was displayed and everything worked as expected.
Don't know if there is an easy solution to this (other than unblanking the language selection clip manually).

[Ch3vr0n]

@sharc, then you're probably using the default blank size of 1800. I set mine to 60 wich is 1 minute. More then enough for most trailers. I also preview any stream marked for blanking to make sure it's correct. Sounds like BDRB marked a menu stream for blankin in your case

[omegaman7]

Jdobbs, the same reaction has happened with Dark City. Blanked one title, and the other still got massively compressed. Exactly as much as would be, if I were keeping both titles. I'll post the proper info tonight, but I have to leave for work at the moment.

By the way, don't spend it all in once place ;) ♥

[jdobbs]

hold off on that for a while. Apparantly the code BLANK_THRESHOLD=60 wasnt present in the config file anymore. Something i saw was that it flags "static" streams for blanking aswell. Ya know background image stuff or that "pocket-blue" screen. The Universal "rotating logo pause screen" also got triggered for blanking. The BD-Live "loading a fresh preview" also got flagged. I'm just saying all this just because it may help. However the important part is that the stuff that needs to be blanked for real also got flagged. Kudos on that.

The reason alot got flagged is probably cause FF5 has a crapload of small streams. Anyway if i may offer 2 suggestions on improving that for the future. A way to set the "blank timer" via a submenu like item such as in alternate movie only output. Textbox of some kind, under the movie & edit mode. Another suggestion would be to auto enable the editing when that mode is selected and not having to "double click" :) The Universal rotating is used in menus if I remember correctly.

[Ch3vr0n]

that and if you pause a disc too long it defaults back to it aswell (atleast in R2), however that stream got selected to be blanked aswell. But since i previews every selected stream it was just a few clicks of "unblanking it" :)

[spotswood]

Back in 24.06 the option to not process Secondary video was removed. Is there a way to "unselect" the secondary video in Full Backup mode?

Sorry, but no. Removing it causes more problems than it solves.Can you explain why it causes more problems than it solves? I used the PROCESS_SECONDARY=0 hidden option with great success when encoding to Full Backup/BD9 before the change in 24.06 without any problems at all. Seemed to work well for me.

Making PROCESS_SECONDARY=0 a hidden option again would allow me to process my discs that have secondary video/audio and exclude it until there is a solution to encode DTS-Express audio. Kind of a waste of space to include the video with no audio in my opinion. Thanks for your insight...

PS. Both original question and response were found in this thread. If you need to move to the Features Request thread please do so. Thanks...

[omegaman7]

Here's the Log and settings. Same as with Drag me to Hell. Something must be telling it that it still needs space, so it compresses the remaining title, as if the other title isn't blanked.

-----------------------
[10:17:23] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: DARK_CITY
- Input BD size: 42.39 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:03:37.365]
- Target BD size: 23.00 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[10:17:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:17:23] Processing: VID_00073 (1 of 7)
- [10:17:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00073]
- [10:17:24] Reencoding video [VID_00073]
- [10:17:24] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [10:17:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:17:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:17:25] Processing: VID_00050 (2 of 7)
- [10:17:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [10:17:29] Reencoding video [VID_00050]
- [10:17:29] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [10:17:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:17:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:17:32] Processing: VID_00071 (3 of 7)
- [10:17:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00071]
- [10:17:35] Reencoding video [VID_00071]
- [10:17:35] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [10:17:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:17:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:17:44] Processing: VID_00052 (4 of 7)
- [10:17:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00052]
- [10:18:08] Reencoding video [VID_00052]
- [10:18:08] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [10:18:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:18:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:18:23] Processing: VID_00051 (5 of 7)
- [10:18:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
- [10:18:54] Reencoding video [VID_00051]
- [10:18:54] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [10:18:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:18:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:19:13] Blanking: VID_00045 (6 of 7)
- [10:19:13] Processing: VID_00043 (7 of 7)
- [10:19:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
- [10:24:19] Reencoding video [VID_00043]
- [10:24:19] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [10:24:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:24:19] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:39:19]PHASE ONE complete
[10:39:19]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:39:19] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:39:30] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:39:30]JOB: DARK_CITY finished.
-----------------------
[10:47:03] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: DARK_CITY
- Input BD size: 42.39 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:03:37.365]
- Target BD size: 23.00 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[10:47:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:47:08] Processing: VID_00073 (1 of 7)
- [10:47:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00073]
- [10:47:09] Reencoding video [VID_00073]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 585 frames
- [10:47:09] Reencoding: VID_00073, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:47:10] Video Encode complete
- [10:47:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:47:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:47:11] Processing: VID_00050 (2 of 7)
- [10:47:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [10:47:15] Reencoding video [VID_00050]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 9,000 frames
- [10:47:15] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:47:32] Video Encode complete
- [10:47:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:47:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:47:34] Processing: VID_00071 (3 of 7)
- [10:47:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00071]
- [10:47:38] Reencoding video [VID_00071]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,409 frames
- [10:47:38] Reencoding: VID_00071, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:48:35] Video Encode complete
- [10:48:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:48:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:48:38] Processing: VID_00052 (4 of 7)
- [10:48:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00052]
- [10:49:01] Reencoding video [VID_00052]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 60,840 frames
- [10:49:01] Reencoding: VID_00052, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:51:00] Video Encode complete
- [10:51:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:51:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:51:11] Processing: VID_00051 (5 of 7)
- [10:51:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
- [10:51:43] Reencoding video [VID_00051]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 78,090 frames
- [10:51:43] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:54:19] Video Encode complete
- [10:54:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:54:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:54:31] Blanking: VID_00045 (6 of 7)
- [10:54:31] Processing: VID_00043 (7 of 7)
- [10:54:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
- [10:59:33] Reencoding video [VID_00043]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 160,729 frames
- Bitrate: 5,633 Kbs
- [10:59:33] Reencoding: VID_00043, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:59:34] Reencoding: VID_00043, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:24:56] Video Encode complete
- [15:24:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:24:57] Multiplexing M2TS
[15:32:05]PHASE ONE complete
[15:32:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:32:05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:32:14] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[15:32:14]JOB: DARK_CITY finished.

[Ch3vr0n]

last night had to abort the encode at 73% cause needed to get some sleep. Just now i tried to resume and BDRB said working path not empty. Though nothing has changed from my end something HAS changed from BDRB's end. I saw that streams i UNSELECTED to keep that were flagged by BDRB to get blanked, were reselected by BDRB to be blanked. It seems it is not remembering (un)selected streams correctly

[Mark_Venture]

I've read as much of the thread as I could, but with 12.5K+ posts I probably missed something..

I'm still a little confused on how "forced subtitles" are handled.

I've read that if you go into "settings" -> setup -> choose English (eng) ONLY for your subtitle choice. Then UNCHECK "limit to one track for each language" it should keep forced subtitles.

Should that also work for "alternate Movie-Only output" mode? (I select MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio)

I just tried using BD-Rebuilder v0.39.01 to convert Star Wars ANH Bluray to MKV. While all the English sub titles show selected before I hit backup (and non-english have red X next to them), the resulting MKV contains NO subtitles (according to MediaInfo). I'm trying to get the ones where Greedo and Jaba are speaking...

I saw Capsbackup post something around post #12680 and a few follow ups, but I'm not sure if its the same thing, as that issue seems to be with regular subs, not forced, and DVD output rather than MKV?

Is it possible to have forced subs when using alt movie-only output as MKV file?

Also, not as important, should the resulting MKV have all selected audio streams embedded? (again, I did... Setup -> "settings" -> choose English (eng) ONLY for audio to keep. Then UNCHECK "limiti to one track for each language")... because it only has 1 (per MediaInfo)

[jdobbs]

last night had to abort the encode at 73% cause needed to get some sleep. Just now i tried to resume and BDRB said working path not empty. Though nothing has changed from my end something HAS changed from BDRB's end. I saw that streams i UNSELECTED to keep that were flagged by BDRB to get blanked, were reselected by BDRB to be blanked. It seems it is not remembering (un)selected streams correctly Any editing you've done is lost between times that you exit and reenter BD-RB... so the size doesn't match.

[jdobbs]

I've read as much of the thread as I could, but with 12.5K+ posts I probably missed something..

I'm still a little confused on how "forced subtitles" are handled.

I've read that if you go into "settings" -> setup -> choose English (eng) ONLY for your subtitle choice. Then UNCHECK "limit to one track for each language" it should keep forced subtitles.

Should that also work for "alternate Movie-Only output" mode? (I select MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio)

I just tried using BD-Rebuilder v0.39.01 to convert Star Wars ANH Bluray to MKV. While all the English sub titles show selected before I hit backup (and non-english have red X next to them), the resulting MKV contains NO subtitles (according to MediaInfo). I'm trying to get the ones where Greedo and Jaba are speaking...

I saw Capsbackup post something around post #12680 and a few follow ups, but I'm not sure if its the same thing, as that issue seems to be with regular subs, not forced, and DVD output rather than MKV?

Is it possible to have forced subs when using alt movie-only output as MKV file?

Also, not as important, should the resulting MKV have all selected audio streams embedded? (again, I did... Setup -> "settings" -> choose English (eng) ONLY for audio to keep. Then UNCHECK "limiti to one track for each language")... because it only has 1 (per MediaInfo)http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1501037#post1501037

[Ch3vr0n]

Any editing you've done is lost between times that you exit and reenter BD-RB... so the size doesn't match.

Thats just it, i havent. After the abort the only thing i did was launch BDRB and hit backup again. So it should have resumed. I noticed that BDRB had reselected streams to be blanked that i have previously UNSELECTED prior to starting the backup process in the first place. So it seems BDRB doesnt remember the streams blanked correctly

[jdobbs]

Thats just it, i havent. After the abort the only thing i did was launch BDRB and hit backup again. So it should have resumed. I noticed that BDRB had reselected streams to be blanked that i have previously UNSELECTED prior to starting the backup process in the first place. So it seems BDRB doesnt remember the streams blanked correctly Yep, that's pretty much exactly what I said...

In order to save those settings I'll have to put the selection list into the INF file so it will reset your changes to the default selections when you resume. The problem is that on some of these discs the string in the INF might be 500 characters long. :(

[Ch3vr0n]

I'm sure you'll find a way. Cause it kinda pissed me off i had to do an entire recode, still running atm. Had time yet to look at that multi-lang thing idea o' mine?

[Mark_Venture]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1501037#post1501037

Ok. Cool. Thank you. That helps! Sorry I missed it being mentioned in the other thread.

I ended up using -> http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/313620-How-to-extract-subtitles-from-a-Blu-ray-and-convert-to-srt-or-sub-idx to pull the subtitles and convert to an SRT. Yup the OCR is horrible, but thankfully, for forced subs, there isn't much there so the effort needed isn't too bad :D

However that post you linked to says you can do multiple audio tracks. its discussed in the next few posts there too.. So I'm guessing that it still doesn't work? or am I doing something wrong?

[Capsbackup]

Cause it kinda pissed me off i had to do an entire recode, still running atm.

If you remember the settings, or are selective as to what additional selections/deselections you make over and above what is set in Setup, you will not have to start over. ;)

[Ch3vr0n]

I was running FF5 with a 1 minute blanking timer. With those settings it's impossible to remember all streams

[DGenerateKane]

Been awhile since I encoded any Blu-ray's, but I just started again recently. I did many successful rebuilds, but I keep getting the same error on two, BSG The Plan and Terminator 2. They both fail to retrieve audio, and tsmuxer stops responding and I have to force it to close. Any ideas what is wrong? I'm guessing something with my systems, as on the computer I normally encode blu-ray's BSG fails around 17% but I tried both on this computer and BSG failed before it could even do anything (although T2 seemed to fail at the same spot it did on my other system). Also, I searched this post for tsmuxer crashes and only found old posts about subs. I tried both without subs wih the same results. Also, Inspect.exe reports everything ok.


I'd still like to know why tsmuxer crashes at the same spot with both titles every time on two separate machines. Here is the latest log of BSG.

-----------------------
[09:25:56] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: BSG_THE_PLAN
- Input BD size: 38.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:04:30.092]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:25:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:25:56] Processing: VID_00096 (1 of 13)
- [09:25:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
- [09:25:57] Reencoding video [VID_00096]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,119 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [09:25:57] Reencoding: VID_00096, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:26:03] Video Encode complete
- [09:26:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:26:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:26:04] Processing: VID_00094 (2 of 13)
- [09:26:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [09:26:05] Reencoding video [VID_00094]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,353 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [09:26:05] Reencoding: VID_00094, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:26:12] Video Encode complete
- [09:26:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:26:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:26:12] Processing: VID_00093 (3 of 13)
- [09:26:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
- [09:26:14] Reencoding video [VID_00093]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,512 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [09:26:14] Reencoding: VID_00093, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:26:21] Video Encode complete
- [09:26:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:26:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:26:22] Processing: VID_00095 (4 of 13)
- [09:26:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [09:26:24] Reencoding video [VID_00095]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,160 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [09:26:24] Reencoding: VID_00095, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:26:34] Video Encode complete
- [09:26:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:26:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:26:34] Processing: VID_00086 (5 of 13)
- [09:26:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00086]
- [09:26:37] Reencoding video [VID_00086]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,084 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [09:26:37] Reencoding: VID_00086, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:26:56] Video Encode complete
- [09:26:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:26:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:26:57] Processing: VID_00092 (6 of 13)
- [09:26:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [09:27:00] Reencoding video [VID_00092]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,002 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [09:27:00] Reencoding: VID_00092, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:27:22] Video Encode complete
- [09:27:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:27:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:27:24] Processing: VID_00062 (7 of 13)
- [09:27:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [09:27:27] Reencoding video [VID_00062]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,560 frames
- [09:27:27] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:27:55] Video Encode complete
- [09:27:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:27:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:27:57] Processing: VID_00097 (8 of 13)
- [09:27:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00097]
- [09:28:02] Reencoding video [VID_00097]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 9,881 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- [09:28:02] Reencoding: VID_00097, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:28:47] Video Encode complete
- [09:28:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:28:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:28:50] Processing: VID_00089 (9 of 13)
- [09:28:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00089]
- [09:29:51] Reencoding video [VID_00089]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 7,290 frames
- [09:29:51] Reencoding: VID_00089, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:34:42] Video Encode complete
- [09:34:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:34:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:34:57] Processing: VID_00088 (10 of 13)
- [09:34:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00088]
- [09:36:23] Reencoding video [VID_00088]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 12,345 frames
- [09:36:24] Reencoding: VID_00088, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:44:25] Video Encode complete
- [09:44:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:44:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:44:56] Processing: VID_00087 (11 of 13)
- [09:44:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00087]
- [09:46:11] Reencoding video [VID_00087]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 12,240 frames
- [09:46:12] Reencoding: VID_00087, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:54:09] Video Encode complete
- [09:54:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:54:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:54:22] Processing: VID_00090 (12 of 13)
- [09:54:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
- [09:55:08] Reencoding video [VID_00090]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 27,423 frames
- [09:55:08] Reencoding: VID_00090, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:05:00] Video Encode complete
- [10:05:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:05:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:05:25] Processing: VID_00010 (13 of 13)
- [10:05:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[10:09:12] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[setarip_old]

@DGenerateKane

Hi! Also, Inspect.exe reports everything ok.Please post the actual report...

[Ch3vr0n]

@JD: Just finished testing FF5 (even though it had DTS-E), i must say that although BDRB didnt remember the blankin settings and i had to rerun the job the blanking itself performed PERFECTLY with a 1 minute timer. No annoying trailers whatsoever. Excellent work

[omegaman7]

I get the feeling, that if I run either dark city, or drag me to hell with "FORCE_NOENCODE", while blanking one title, and then run the output back through the program, it's still gonna compress the remaining title. I haven't attempted it yet. But I have a feeling, that's where you're gonna discover what's going on. E.g. something else needs to be blanked with the title. Whatever is referencing the blanked title, also needs to be blanked(or simply adapt the code to be aware of this). Sorry I can't be more specific. I really don't know much about this stuff :S

Well I'll be damned...
I'm looking at a very high bitrate for encode #2. I'm rerunning the output which was 24Gb with "FORCE_NOENCODE" set, and blanked one of the titles. So i'm not sure why it can't do the job correctly in encode #1, but a second encode might just work. I may be jumping the gun here, but the bitrate for remaining title is VERY high, I feel good about this one :D

I suppose I could have removed some audio tracks, and would have not needed the second encode. Or an encode at all :p What can I say, i'm picky.

Worked like a charm for "Dark City". I guess until the code can be updated, I'll be running titles like this one twice. Which isn't really a big deal. Because the first process requires no encoding, it doesn't take long. Blank the unwanted stuff, and then reload the output and start process 2. I wonder how the blanking is going for others though. E.g. are they finishing it all in one process, and getting the expected output size?

[jwjohnson]

I've read as much of the thread as I could, but with 12.5K+ posts I probably missed something..

I'm still a little confused on how "forced subtitles" are handled.

I've read that if you go into "settings" -> setup -> choose English (eng) ONLY for your subtitle choice. Then UNCHECK "limit to one track for each language" it should keep forced subtitles.

Should that also work for "alternate Movie-Only output" mode? (I select MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio)

I just tried using BD-Rebuilder v0.39.01 to convert Star Wars ANH Bluray to MKV. While all the English sub titles show selected before I hit backup (and non-english have red X next to them), the resulting MKV contains NO subtitles (according to MediaInfo). I'm trying to get the ones where Greedo and Jaba are speaking...

I saw Capsbackup post something around post #12680 and a few follow ups, but I'm not sure if its the same thing, as that issue seems to be with regular subs, not forced, and DVD output rather than MKV?

Is it possible to have forced subs when using alt movie-only output as MKV file?

Also, not as important, should the resulting MKV have all selected audio streams embedded? (again, I did... Setup -> "settings" -> choose English (eng) ONLY for audio to keep. Then UNCHECK "limiti to one track for each language")... because it only has 1 (per MediaInfo)

Here's how I do forced subs:

1. Do a Movie Only backup with all English subs. (Unless you want a blu ray backup as well I set the output size at 60GB so no re-encoding is done. Faster that way).

2. Use BDSup2Sub to examine the subtitile files (they should still be in the BDRB /Workfiles folder) to determine which one contains the forced subs.

3. Create .mp4 (or .mkv) output with RibBot264. (Use the single .mt2s file made in step one as the input.) One of the settings for each job is which subtitle track to include. Just pick the one you identified above. The rest just set up according to what sort of output you want.

Mediainfo will not show any subtitles because it burns them into the video stream.

A couple of limitations: It's considerably slower than BDRB on my machine, and as far as I can tell you can only select one audio stream.

It has worked fine for me with titles such as Avatar, Taken, Tourist, Da Vinci Code and others.

[Ch3vr0n]

Update on FF5, the rebuilt disc jammed arround 36minutes. Something probably got blanked that shouldnt have been. The burnt double layer ISO from AnyDVD skipped past the problematic spot without a problem. I'll be running a new encode now. That being said the 2nd job i ran "Cop Out" performed flawlessly (though i did apparently have it blank the menu background, the menu itself was unaffected and behaved like it should)

[Tripledrop]

I've just converted a BD50 to BD25 (best quality), and the audio seems to start ok, but it goes out of sync towards the end of the episode. Is this fixable or is it worth converting again?

Thx :)

[colinhunt]

Could be I'm having a thick-o day (even more so than usual) but v0.39.01 is acting somewhat peculiarly.

I have not added ENABLE_TEST=1 to the .INI file. I tried to do a full backup of Citizen Kane (US) but BD-RB lists only the main movie in both Full Backup and Movie-Only Backup modes.

v0.38.09 lists 7 items in Full Backup mode:
VID_00020 (AVC 1080p Main Movie) 29 387,99 MB
VID_00055 (AVC 480i) 189,59 MB
VID_00060 (AVC 480i) 290,33 MB
VID_00063 (AVC 480i) 156,52 MB
VID_00073 (AVC 480i) 42,17 MB
VID_00074 (AVC 480i) 8,10 MB
VID_00075 (AVC 480i) 192,66 MB

v0.39.01 lists only VID_00020, no matter what I try.

[jdobbs]

@jagjockey

Best guess is that some other program has intercepted the AVC codec. Unistall BD-RB and its helper apps. Then, if you have any CODEC packs installed remove them (they aren't needed -- FFDSHOW has all the CODECs anyone needs). Then reinstall BD-RB and its apps again carefully following the instructions in the first post of this thread.

[jdobbs]

Could be I'm having a thick-o day (even more so than usual) but v0.39.01 is acting somewhat peculiarly.

I have not added ENABLE_TEST=1 to the .INI file. I tried to do a full backup of Citizen Kane (US) but BD-RB lists only the main movie in both Full Backup and Movie-Only Backup modes.

v0.38.09 lists 7 items in Full Backup mode:
VID_00020 (AVC 1080p Main Movie) 29 387,99 MB
VID_00055 (AVC 480i) 189,59 MB
VID_00060 (AVC 480i) 290,33 MB
VID_00063 (AVC 480i) 156,52 MB
VID_00073 (AVC 480i) 42,17 MB
VID_00074 (AVC 480i) 8,10 MB
VID_00075 (AVC 480i) 192,66 MB

v0.39.01 lists only VID_00020, no matter what I try. That just means the others are being kept intact for full backup. Usually that means they have certain flags that indicate they are menus (perhaps IGS subpaths) or are smaller than the MIN_M2TS_SIZE setting.

Movie-Only always shows only the main movie.

[colinhunt]

That just means the others are being kept intact for full backup.
So, uh, 0.39.01 does not list all the items it will include in the full backup?

[jdobbs]

So, uh, 0.39.01 does not list all the items it will include in the full backup? So, uh, neither did any of the previous versions... it only lists the ones that will be processed.

[colinhunt]

So, uh, neither did any of the previous versions... it only lists the ones that will be processed.
OK, now I'm totally confused (not hard to achieve, admittedly). In Full Backup mode (of Citizen Kane), 0.38.09 lists 7 items, while 0.39.01 lists only 1 item. Is that how it's supposed to be?

[jdobbs]

OK, now I'm totally confused (not hard to achieve, admittedly). In Full Backup mode (of Citizen Kane), 0.38.09 lists 7 items, while 0.39.01 lists only 1 item. Is that how it's supposed to be? Yes. There have been several improvements added in v0.39.01 to identify items should be "left alone" when possible. That's because they have a high risk for causing issues. For example, in previous versions a stream with an IGS substream would put it in that category. In v0.39.01, I have added code to look also at substreams. I've also added about 5 other analysis criteria as well. I had to, because opening those items up for editing creates a whole new world of "how careful should I be".

Here's the bottom line... when you run that disc --- does it work? Does it look a good as the original? We're squabbling about minutia here that is of virtually zero importance. Leaving a few hundred megabytes intact on a 25GB target is rounding figures.

BD-RB has always done this selection analysis to provide better speed and compatibility. Now it just does it better. BD-9 output, however, it another matter. Since the original's maximum bitrate is too high and the target is too small, BD-RB doesn't have the luxury of deciding to leave some things intact. Instead it has to go through a whole list of additional hoops (like going through the entire target M2TS -- resetting DTS, PTS and other timing codes when the "leave alones" are reencoded). That's especially true when there is an out-of-mux substream that is interactive. That takes time and increases risk.