BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only [Archive] - Page 489

ggtop

2nd July 2016, 10:15

@ggtop

I haven't given up on your problem. I'm just doing testing to see if I can find a way to repeat it. I'd like to make sure that the new code I added (to allow for hardcoding full subtitles) is clean before I release a new version.

Hi jdobbs,

that's good news. I would to more than happy if I could help help you testing the new coding especially since I have some test candidates. In case you don't have it any longer I could also send you the EXE version 0.50.15 you compiled for me.
Is there a switch for BDRB to output more detailed logs or another way using some sort of debugging tools to analyse what is happening when BDRD aborts with
- [00:09:15] CreateAVS() 00000
[00:09:17] - Could not create AVS file

The issue is repeatable with playlists looking like in attached image:
Leading VID Segment where I can not select any audio/Sub and no sub is selected as [Forced on]. That way BDRB should default using the 9999 file.

I will redo Death Proof again and post the Contents of inf/ini files and Contents of the WORKFILES folder.

ggtop

Thaddäus

2nd July 2016, 11:06

@Thaddäus

My best guess would be a permissions issue. It looks like you have plenty of space (1.8TB) Try running BD-RB with admin privileges and see if it goes away. If it does, then adjusting the output folder permissions my fix it.

Thanks - I'll give it a try!

Is D: a USB connected drive? I've seen reports before when there were driver issues on USB connected drives (although I've never actually seen it myself that I can remember). If so, you might want to test setting the working folder to a SATA connected drive just to prove/disprove it as an issue.

Nope, D: is an internal SATA-drive. My C-drive is a 256 GB SSD-drive where only Windows and programmes (including BD Rebuilder) are installed whereas D: is a 3 TB SATA-HDD where all my data (documents, pictures, movies, videos...) is stored.

Do you resume the rebuild from the external HDD attached to another computer or do you copy the files there? What does happen if you resume the rebuild from that external drive attached to your i7?
Personally I prefer not to use long paths (and avoid spaces in names). You can try to move your WORKFILES folder directly into the root of d:\

I copied the files from that external drive to the same path on the other machine (D:\Eigene Dateien\Eigene Videos) and resumed it from there. By the way: The other machine is an i7-3612QM notebook with 8 GB RAM and also Win 10 x64 on it. I can't remember doing anything else while installing everything on that notebook but somehow BD Rebuilder works fine there. Only the constellation of drives is a bit different on that notebook: C: is a mSSD with only 30 GB where only Windows is installed and all the other programmes and the data is stored on D: which is a 1 TB SATA-HDD.

ggtop

2nd July 2016, 11:15

Maybe I should use the same version you are using?
I have no idea in what way other changes you made in the meantime influence the issue I have...

BTW Just came across another disc from my Tarantino box where the full commentary Sub track was marked as forced. Version 0.50.14 fully hard-coded These. That's why I like the ability to choose the correct sub track by myself :-)

I redid Death Proof until the error occurs...
This is the inf right I after I pressed "Backup":
[Status]
LABEL=DEATH_PROOF_BD
VERSION=v0.50.15
SOURCE_SIZE=33942312960
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33942312960
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.725982817642372
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=37
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
[00005]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=00

This is is inf file after the error message:
[Status]
LABEL=DEATH_PROOF_BD
VERSION=v0.50.15
SOURCE_SIZE=33942312960
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33942312960
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.725982817642372
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=37
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
FORCED_SUB_LANG=deu
[00005]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=00
S1440=0

Only the line FORCED_SUB_LANG=deu seems to be different which is OK since the second sub track has forced subs.

Edit: My ini file:
[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.15
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=1
SUPTITLE=1
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
MENU_BACKGROUND=C:\Users\xxx\Documents\Software\BD_Rebuilder_V05014\misc\menuback.jpg
MENU_AUDIO=C:\Users\xxx\Documents\Software\BD_Rebuilder_V05014\tools\blankclip\blank.ac3
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=7
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=7
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_AUTO_DVDAUDIO=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1
IMPORT_LIMIT_LANG=0
IMPORT_KEEP_PLAYALL=0
AUTO_BURN=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=37
ALTCRF=23
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALT_CRF_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
FORCED_SUB_LANG=deu;ger;
NEW_CRF_PREDICTION=1
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=0
STATUS_LOG=1
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
;MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=3
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\USERS\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_ORIGINAL\DEATH_PROOF_BD\
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK_2\
SupTitlePath=C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\SupTitle.dll
NeroAACPath=C:\Users\xxx\Documents\Software\Nero AAC\win32\neroAacEnc.exe

:thanks:

ggtop

ggtop

2nd July 2016, 11:25

Thanks - I'll give it a try!

Any chance you have "installed" BDRB to program files or program files (x86)? Usually unzipping to a folder outside these standard folders should be the better choice (such as desktop) because of Windows UAC.

ggtop

ggtop

2nd July 2016, 11:39

After error
- [11:52:43] CreateAVS() 00000
[11:54:28] - Could not create AVS file
occured I marked the second sub track as [FORCED ON] and resumed. AVS gets created, Encoding starts followed by audio conversion, extracting video from VID_00006 and so on...normal :o

inf file:
[Status]
LABEL=DEATH_PROOF_BD
VERSION=v0.50.15
SOURCE_SIZE=33942312960
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33942312960
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.725982817642372
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=37
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
FORCED_SUB_LANG=deu
COMPLETED=1
[00005]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=00
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=5401591
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
PGS=01

log file:
----------------------
[07.02.16] BD Rebuilder v0.50.15
[11:46:07] Source: DEATH_PROOF_BD_00021
- Input BD size: 31,61 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:53:44.234]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: My MP4 Container, 1920x1080, AutoGOP, AAC-256
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:46:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:46:07] Processing: VID_00005 (1 of 2)
- [11:46:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [11:52:43] CreateAVS() 00000
[11:54:28] - Could not create AVS file
----------------------
[07.02.16] BD Rebuilder v0.50.15
[12:31:24] Source: DEATH_PROOF_BD_00021
- Input BD size: 31,61 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:53:44.234]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: My MP4 Container, 1920x1080, AutoGOP, AAC-256
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[12:31:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:31:25] Processing: VID_00005 (1 of 2)
- [12:31:25] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 114 frames
- [12:31:25] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:31:31] Video Encode complete
- [12:31:31] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (deu): Reencoding audio to AAC...
- [12:35:59] Processing: VID_00006 (2 of 2)
- [12:35:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]

ggtop

ggtop

2nd July 2016, 12:15

Any chance you have "installed" BDRB to program files or program files (x86)? Usually unzipping to a folder outside these standard folders should be the better choice (such as desktop) because of Windows UAC.

ggtop

@Thaddäus:
I have the same disc than you have. Mine worked fine in full backup mode. As 00021.m2ts is the main movie and therfore the largest file is there a chance you have a filesystem problem. Maybe one of your your drives in your process chain is FAT32 formatted?´

Edit: Very unlikely though if other BDs are processed successfully. And of course the unsual suspects such as A/V soft-/malware...

jdobbs

2nd July 2016, 14:01

Hi jdobbs,

that's good news. I would to more than happy if I could help help you testing the new coding especially since I have some test candidates. In case you don't have it any longer I could also send you the EXE version 0.50.15 you compiled for me.
Is there a switch for BDRB to output more detailed logs or another way using some sort of debugging tools to analyse what is happening when BDRD aborts with
- [00:09:15] CreateAVS() 00000
[00:09:17] - Could not create AVS file

The issue is repeatable with playlists looking like in attached image:
Leading VID Segment where I can not select any audio/Sub and no sub is selected as [Forced on]. That way BDRB should default using the 9999 file.

I will redo Death Proof again and post the Contents of inf/ini files and Contents of the WORKFILES folder.

ggtopI've tried every test disc I have, multipart and not, and can't seem to repeat the issue.

ggtop

2nd July 2016, 15:59

I've tried every test disc I have, multipart and not, and can't seem to repeat the issue.

Many thanks. You spent more time I could have expected on this. I'll wait for the next release. In case the issue is still present I'll report back.

Regarding "Never say never again" is there anything I can check on the source files that explain the delay when muxing happens?
"C:\xxx\BD_Rebuilder_V05014\tools\mp4box\mp4box.exe" -fps 23.976 -tmp "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\WORKFILES"
-chap "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\WORKFILES\mChapters.chp"
-mpeg4 -add "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_05016+VID_05012+VID_05017.264"
-add "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\WORKFILES\AUD_05016_4357.AAC":delay=758:lang=deu:name=""
-new "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\NEVER_SAY_NEVER_AGAIN.mp4"
ggtop

ggtop

2nd July 2016, 16:17

One last comment on the sub issue :D

I'm just running "Never say never again" again:
As the selected playlist is also multipart (00130 -> 3 M2TS files) I wondered why I didn't see the issue there. It is obviously because the disc does not contain forced subs for my language (deu; ger).

ggtop

Thaddäus

2nd July 2016, 17:44

Any chance you have "installed" BDRB to program files or program files (x86)? Usually unzipping to a folder outside these standard folders should be the better choice (such as desktop) because of Windows UAC.

ggtop

Yes, the path to BD Rebuilder is C:\Program Files (x86)\BD Rebuilder and as far as I remember I extracted it directly to this path. So you think it might help to extract it somewhere else first and move it afterwards or should I leave it completely out of the Program Files-folders?

@Thaddäus:
I have the same disc than you have. Mine worked fine in full backup mode. As 00021.m2ts is the main movie and therfore the largest file is there a chance you have a filesystem problem. Maybe one of your your drives in your process chain is FAT32 formatted?´

Edit: Very unlikely though if other BDs are processed successfully. And of course the unsual suspects such as A/V soft-/malware...

The drive is of course formated in NTFS. ;)
As I already said: There are times the whole process finishes fine like on "The Revenant", but most of the time I get these error-message with one of the meta-files. If I try the same disc for a second time or resume the job so it starts directly with phase 2 again it might work or the error comes at least with another file - the more files there are the bigger the chance to fail. But I'll try jdobbs' advice to run BD Rebuilder with admin-rights in the next days. Fingers crossed. ;)

jdobbs

2nd July 2016, 20:54

Many thanks. You spent more time I could have expected on this. I'll wait for the next release. In case the issue is still present I'll report back.

Regarding "Never say never again" is there anything I can check on the source files that explain the delay when muxing happens?
"C:\xxx\BD_Rebuilder_V05014\tools\mp4box\mp4box.exe" -fps 23.976 -tmp "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\WORKFILES"
-chap "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\WORKFILES\mChapters.chp"
-mpeg4 -add "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\WORKFILES\VID_05016+VID_05012+VID_05017.264"
-add "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\WORKFILES\AUD_05016_4357.AAC":delay=758:lang=deu:name=""
-new "C:\xxx\VIDEOS\BD_RB_WORK\NEVER_SAY_NEVER_AGAIN.mp4"
ggtopIf BD-RB set a delay of 758ms -- that means that the first PTS of the source audio stream occurs 758ms after the video begins.

jdobbs

2nd July 2016, 20:57

Yes, the path to BD Rebuilder is C:\Program Files (x86)\BD Rebuilder and as far as I remember I extracted it directly to this path. So you think it might help to extract it somewhere else first and move it afterwards or should I leave it completely out of the Program Files-folders?From the first post of this thread (installation instructions):3. Unzip the BD-RB.zip file. Put it in a directory of its own. I'd recommend putting it somewhere other than "C:\Program Files" until it has been tested more (because of the virtualization that began with Vista).

Ch3vr0n

2nd July 2016, 22:28

I've always used bdrb from program files folder, works perfectly. The catch? My UAC is disabled, so there's no virtualization whatsoever for any program.

soneca

2nd July 2016, 23:29

That's one I've never seen before. I looked it up, and it says the that there is a DLL that is missing or hasn't been registered somehow. Have you recently done an install of a new O/S or something similar? I'd suggest you try to uninstall/reinstall DVD-RB from scratch.

Strange, I had to reinstall Windows 7 again but the error remains.:( For years I have been installing DVD Rebuilder in Windows 7 without any problems, but could finish the installation by editing the Reg-RB file on another PC.

veggav

3rd July 2016, 14:00

I've upgraded my pc to Asus Maximus VIII Hero with i7 6700k and gtx 980ti. I managed to safely overclock my cpu to 4.6Ghz and this is how long it took to encode Metropolis BD-50 to BD-25 using very high (slowest settings).
Full backup and quicker encode for extras.

I've also used this Tweak: TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--me umh --no-deblock --subme 10 --merange 32 --b-adapt 2 --trellis 2 --no-mbtree --aq-strength 0.8 --no-psy

----------------------
[07/03/16] BD Rebuilder v0.50.14
[00:51:08] Source: METROPOLIS
- Input BD size: 46,37 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:28:03.147]
- Target BD size: 23,54 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[00:51:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:51:08] Processing: VID_00007 (1 of 4)
- [00:51:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [00:51:13] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 984 frames
- Bitrate: 4.211 Kbs
- [00:51:13] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:51:16] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:51:21] Video Encode complete
- [00:51:21] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (deu): Keeping original audio
- [00:51:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:51:25] Processing: VID_00006 (2 of 4)
- [00:51:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [00:51:36] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 2.917 frames
- [00:51:36] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:51:49] Video Encode complete
- [00:51:49] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [00:51:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:51:55] Processing: VID_00010 (3 of 4)
- [00:51:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [00:55:05] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 78.675 frames
- Bitrate: 9.263 Kbs
- [00:55:05] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:04:58] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:30:04] Video Encode complete
- [02:30:05] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
- [02:30:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:31:02] Processing: VID_00000 (4 of 4)
- [02:31:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [02:43:27] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 215.050 frames
- Bitrate: 10.875 Kbs
- [02:43:27] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:08:17] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:41:12] Video Encode complete
- [06:41:12] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (deu): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [06:41:12] Multiplexing M2TS
[06:49:14]PHASE ONE complete
[06:49:14]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:49:14] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[06:49:19] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[06:49:19] JOB: METROPOLIS finished.

Pretty good, isn't it? less than 6 hours.

jdobbs

3rd July 2016, 18:31

That let me load the VID_00042.AVS file, but the TEMP.AVS still reacts funny.

Comparing, testing, and exhibiting extreme patience, it's the SelectRangeEvery() that's causing the problem.

It seems seeking is crazy slow this way. 0.01x Speed with more than an hour estimated to test just the first CRF value.

FRIMSource doesn't seem capable of reasonably doing an analysis test.

Maybe this is one of those things you need an Intel processor to accelerate.You're probably right. I'll probably have to disable CRF prediction for FRIMSource(). More than likely it can't seek without decoding all the frames in betweenOk. Call me confused. I just went through the code -- and one-pass CRF encoding is already disabled when FRIMSource is selected. So how are you getting this condition?

DoctorM

3rd July 2016, 22:08

Ok. Call me confused. I just went through the code -- and one-pass CRF encoding is already disabled when FRIMSource is selected. So how are you getting this condition?

By having 'Use DirectshowSource for frame serving' selected under settings/setup. You can then select CRF.

When you click 'Backup' FRIMSource gets used because the disc is 3D, but until you start the backup, BD Rebuilder is assuming you are going to use DSS.

It doesn't override CRF when it switches framservers.

jdobbs

4th July 2016, 11:39

Ahhh... ok, I get it now. It only disables CRF when FRIMSourc is selected, not when it is forced by 3D. Thanks.

Lathe

4th July 2016, 21:08

Sharc

4th July 2016, 23:26

Just a quickie... (my usual style :) )

I had a .ts video snippet from a concert and Media Info showed it to be @ 60k fps, which I figured that there was no way that my OPPO would play that either as an MKV or placed in a BDMV folder. But, lo & behold, when I went ahead and tried to play the BDMV folder, it played just fine!

Is that frame rate a legal Blu-ray standard? And, how in hell can my OPPO play back such a high frame rate...?
What is 60k fps? What did MediaInfo actually report?
60i video (actually 59.94 interlaced fields fields per second) is Blu-ray compliant, and any Blu-ray player should play it. So I suspect your clip is interlaced video, or the progressive clip is just encoded as interlaced, or it has seen some (odd) framerate conversion.
Upload a few second sample.

Lathe

5th July 2016, 01:25

What is 60k fps? What did MediaInfo actually report?
60i video (actually 59.94 interlaced fields fields per second) is Blu-ray compliant, and any Blu-ray player should play it. So I suspect your clip is interlaced video, or the progressive clip is just encoded as interlaced, or it has seen some (odd) framerate conversion.
Upload a few second sample.

Oh yeah, I see now that it is 60.000 :) I'm still not that conversant with the fps stuff yet. I'll attach a picture of the MediaInfo text. It is from an outdoor concert, so I'm thinking that maybe someone used their camera, because don't cameras use odd frame rates?

(of course, you will have to wait until my attachment is 'Approved'... I mean, you NEVER know, it could be a bomb or something, and JD has to run all these sophisticated tests first... :cool: )

MrVideo

6th July 2016, 00:58

Oh yeah, I see now that it is 60.000 :) I'm still not that conversant with the fps stuff yet. I'll attach a picture of the MediaInfo text. It is from an outdoor concert, so I'm thinking that maybe someone used their camera, because don't cameras use odd frame rates?

Not an odd frame rate. 720p60 is a legit frame rate. It could really be 60 fps, or 59.94 fps. Manufacturers tend to not state the frame rate correctly.

There are cameras that will actually do 1080p60(59.94), but that frame rate is not Blu-ray compliant.

Lathe

8th July 2016, 05:13

Not an odd frame rate. 720p60 is a legit frame rate. It could really be 60 fps, or 59.94 fps. Manufacturers tend to not state the frame rate correctly.

There are cameras that will actually do 1080p60(59.94), but that frame rate is not Blu-ray compliant.

Ah, good to know... Just doesn't LOOK like a normal, usual Blu-ray frame rate to me...

MrVideo

8th July 2016, 11:06

You won't find much in the way of 720p60 material on a Blu-ray, since any professional work is done at a minimum 1080p23.976. Movies are shot using, for example, Red 5K cameras and there has even been work done with 6K cameras.

That said, I have seen a Blu-ray demo disc that had both 720p and 1080p material on it.

Sharc

8th July 2016, 14:03

Isn't 720p60 (59.94 respectively) used for TV broadcasting?
At least in PAL countries some TV stations broadcast at 720p50 (50 progressive frames per second) rather than at 1080i25 (50 fields per second). I imagine it's probably similar in NTSC countries with some stations broadcasting at 720p60 (59.94 progressive frames per second) rather than 1080i30 (59.94 fields per second).

MrVideo

8th July 2016, 19:37

First off, no such thing and NTSC or PAL anymore. Those were OTA analog broadcast specs. In the digital world, stuff is described by the other numbers you used.

But, you are correct. That main use of 720p is in broadcasting. As I mentioned, anything worth its salt that will be released on Blu-ray will be 1080p/i. Material that would make it onto Blu-ray at 720p would be sports that originated in 720p, like the Super Bowl that was broadcast by Fox, who use 720p.

Sharc

8th July 2016, 20:47

The OP wrote that his source is a .ts video snippet, not a Blu-Ray disc. Hence I assumed that it has been TV broadcasted as 720p59.94 which is - besides of sports for preserving the full temporal resolution - not unusual for music clips. (Moreover, music clips are notorious for all kind of butchering, e.g. for frame rate conversion).
Anyway, as has been mentioned, 720p59.94 is Blu-Ray compliant and any Blu-ray player will play it.

MrVideo

9th July 2016, 02:47

The OP wrote that his source is a .ts video snippet, not a Blu-Ray disc.

True, but I believe the point is that said video can be run thru BDR to place it onto a Blu-ray disc, as the file is compliant.

jdobbs

9th July 2016, 13:58

First off, no such thing and NTSC or PAL anymore. Those were OTA analog broadcast specs. In the digital world, stuff is described by the other numbers you used.Try renting or buying a DVD and then tell me there is no such thing as NTSC and PAL anymore.

jdobbs

9th July 2016, 14:20

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent version of BD-RB (v0.50.16). Changes for this release:- Added code that applies the default audio
setting (from the streams list) to MKV and
MP4 output as well as BD format.
- A new hidden option (MENU_INACTIVE_COLOR)
was added to allow specifically calling out
a color for inactive menu text. Each color
(YELLOW, BLUE, GREEN, etc) is a subdued
version of the same MENU_ACTIVE_COLOR. The
default when not specified will always be
subdued white (grey). Also changed both color
options so a 24 bit RGB color can be provided
(example 0x00FF00 = full green). See info
in HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more details.
- Made modifications to code so that selecting
"Force Subtitles ON" from the streams list
while also setting "Use Suptitle()..." from
the SETUP dialog will result in hard-coded
subtitles in ALTERNATE output.
- Fixed a problem in which using BD Importing
on an HEVC/AAC archive was failing to import
the AAC tracks.
- Corrected an error in which deselecting the
"Attempt to find original menu...DVD import"
option of the IMPORT menu would cause the
menu backdrop to disappear.
- Fixed a problem in which importing HEVC from
an ARCHIVE could create problems with the
newly created Quick-Menu.
- Disabled IMPORT functions when Quick-Play
backup is selected (importing can cause a
conflict due to shared subroutine calls).
- Added "--frame-packing 4" for encoding that
uses Over/Under format in 3D mode.
- Modified video file import so AAC files are
not converted to AC3 into the pseudo-BD
structure (this saves one conversion step
to reduce possible reencoding distortion)>
- Fixed an issue in which importing a DVD
might experience audio desync when a cell's
PTS is properly flagged as discontinuous
but BD-RB incorrectly attempts to pad it to
correct (as if it weren't flagged). This
is a very rare circumstance.
- Modified encoding logic so that the SETUP
options for converting 4:3->16:9 or 4:3
widening will be enabled when the ALTERNATE
vFormat has been selected as "NO RESIZE".
- Corrected an issue in which setting the
IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1 hidden option was not
working when importing 1920x1080 videofile.
- Added an IVTC_1080i hidden option that works
like IVTC_480i. See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for info.
- Corrected an error in which attempting to
encode using a combination of MULTIPROCESS
and DirectshowSource() on an MPEG-2 source
was not working properly.
- Corrected an issue in which reencoding AAC
sources could result in overly long audio
files due to incorrect DirectShowSource
audio length detection.
- Updated the included versions of X265 to a
newest stable release (1.9+227).
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to
the latest release (r2705).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE
to the latest release (r2705).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Thaddäus

9th July 2016, 14:43

I've tried your suggestions for my problem now, but neither of them was the solution for my problem.

I used the Blu-ray of "Krampus" for testing which has 39 videos on it. For the first time the problems already came during Phase 1. I tried to run BD Rebuilder as admin from "C:\Program Files (x86)" and from a completely other directory ("D:\Eigene Dateien\Downloads\BD_Rebuilder"), but the error happened anyway. :(

You can find the logfile attached as it was too long to post it as a code.
As you can see it's not about specific files, in Phase 2 it happened with file 2, on the second attempt it ran through until file 33. The third attempt went through, but there was another error at the end which said "One or more reencoded files (00386.m2ts) are missing. Cannot complete the REBUILD process."

I'm now going to try my workaround with copying the files to my notebook and I bet It'll work there again...

jdobbs

9th July 2016, 15:13

It's almost as if you're running out of disc space... but your INSPECT report says you have plenty. Disc write error maybe?

Thaddäus

9th July 2016, 15:33

It's almost as if you're running out of disc space... but your INSPECT report says you have plenty. Disc write error maybe?

There's 1,75 TB free at the moment, so this definitely can't be the problem. ;)
I've tried something else now: I moved the "Krampus"-folder out of "Eigene Videos" and copied it straight to the top, so the path is now "D:\Krampus" - and it worked! I just don't get why, because I haven't changed anything about the user rights of that folder on any of the two computers and BD Rebuilder is the only tool that has those issues. But if this is the solution it would be definitely one I can deal with. :D

I'm keeping an eye on it...

jdobbs

9th July 2016, 16:02

There's 1,75 TB free at the moment, so this definitely can't be the problem. ;)
I've tried something else now: I moved the "Krampus"-folder out of "Eigene Videos" and copied it straight to the top, so the path is now "D:\Krampus" - and it worked! I just don't get why, because I haven't changed anything about the user rights of that folder on any of the two computers and BD Rebuilder is the only tool that has those issues. But if this is the solution it would be definitely one I can deal with. :D

I'm keeping an eye on it...As long as it works, I guess. I still can't see why. Your path is nowhere near the Windows max (and you're on Windows 10, so even that shouldn't matter), so it has to be a permissions issue. Weird.

musiclover

9th July 2016, 18:49

I'm trying to convert a PAL dvd to NTSC. I imported the dvd. However the setting IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1 did not do the job. There was not even a PSEUDO directory. Is converting not possible this way? Or did I do something wrong?

Can I manual insert a PINFO.INF file? And how does it have to look?

MrVideo

9th July 2016, 19:53

Try renting or buying a DVD and then tell me there is no such thing as NTSC and PAL anymore.

The digital video that is on the DVD media is neither NTSC or PAL. Show me the color subcarrier in the digital file. The video is either 720x480i59.94 or 720x576i50.

If you do play the DVD thru an older player to an analog TV, then the output of the player is either NTSC or PAL.

If you play the DVD on your computer, or a Blu-ray player via an HDMI connection, the video stays in the digital realm. No analog anywhere in sight.

And yes, DVDs are labeled NTSC/PAL for the least common user who has no clue as to what is really going on. For a majority of users, marking the disc as 480i59.94 or 576i50 would confusing to so many.

My modified Samsung player (U.S. purchase) can play Blu-rays or DVDs from anywhere in the world.

MrVideo

9th July 2016, 19:59

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent version of BD-RB (v0.50.16). Changes for this release:

Weren't you going to add the ability to position the menu text vertically?

MrVideo

9th July 2016, 20:03

I'm trying to convert a PAL dvd to NTSC.
Why would you want to do that? 576i video is better than 480i video. The only reason that you would have to convert is if you are going to reauthor to a DVD that will be played via an old DVD player to an old analog NTSC TV. If you are staying in the digital realm, keeping the video as 576i would provide for better video quality.

Ch3vr0n

9th July 2016, 21:14

maybe because he's got an oversees disc and his player doesnt support PAL?

jdobbs

9th July 2016, 22:36

The digital video that is on the DVD media is neither NTSC or PAL. Show me the color subcarrier in the digital file. The video is either 720x480i59.94 or 720x576i50.

If you do play the DVD thru an older player to an analog TV, then the output of the player is either NTSC or PAL.

If you play the DVD on your computer, or a Blu-ray player via an HDMI connection, the video stays in the digital realm. No analog anywhere in sight.

And yes, DVDs are labeled NTSC/PAL for the least common user who has no clue as to what is really going on. For a majority of users, marking the disc as 480i59.94 or 576i50 would confusing to so many.

My modified Samsung player (U.S. purchase) can play Blu-rays or DVDs from anywhere in the world.:rolleyes: Really, really want to be right, eh? It says NTSC or PAL on the box because that's the system upon which that disc was designed to run. Saying computers/players can play it other ways is just saying they can get around it. Seems like a lot of extra work adding pulldown flags to film source when it doesn't matter because there's "no such thing [as] NTSC or PAL anymore", don't you think?

Just because they stop transmitting NTSC over the air doesn't mean the standard doesn't exist anymore.

jdobbs

9th July 2016, 22:38

jdobbs

9th July 2016, 22:46

Weren't you going to add the ability to position the menu text vertically?Sorry, I never got around to it. Maybe next version.

MrVideo

10th July 2016, 03:29

maybe because he's got an oversees disc and his player doesnt support PAL?

That is why I asked why he needs to do it.

Ch3vr0n

10th July 2016, 03:40

That was a rhetorical question.

MrVideo

10th July 2016, 03:44

:rolleyes: Really, really want to be right, eh? It says NTSC or PAL on the box because that's the system upon which that disc was designed to run. Saying computers/players can play it other ways is just saying they can get around it. Seems like a lot of extra work adding pulldown flags to film source when it doesn't matter because there's "no such thing [as] NTSC or PAL anymore", don't you think?
Nope. They are stuck labeling the DVD releases because of what I previous said. How many people who purchase DVDs these days are actually viewing them via old analog output DVD players? Very few. The point is that digital media is neither NTSC or PAL. The potential playback device's analog output is either NTSC or PAL. Overseas, pretty much ever DVD player will handle 480i or 576i media. Back in the DVD heyday, if you walked past a shop in the U.K. that sold DVD players, pretty much every one of them had a display in their store window advertising multi-standard players and even multi-standard TVs. Here in the U.S., you had to look harder to find players that would convert 576i to 480i for playback to their NTSC only TV.
Just because they stop transmitting NTSC over the air doesn't mean the standard doesn't exist anymore.
Standards never go away, they just become obsolete. :D People who are in forums like this are more tech savvy, working with newer technology, digital only technology, where NTSC and PAL does not exist. IMHO, digital video should only be described by its digital properties, i.e., 480i59.94, 576i50, 480p29.97, 576p25, 1080p23.976, etc.

I've run across situations where 1080 video has been called NTSC, or PAL, just because of the frame rate. Worse, I've seen 1080p23.976 called NTSC. Ouch.