BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[colinhunt]

Risky Business (Full Backup 1-pass CRF to BD25)
- VC1/VC1
- Dolby Digital Plus for secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video glitches
0.39.02, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX disabled: main video OK, secondary video glitches
0.39.02, LAVF disabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
0.39.01, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
Notes: Secondary audio is audible on PowerDVD 11 over LAN.

Battle Los Angeles (Full Backup 1-pass CRF to BD25)
- AVC/AVC
- DTS Express for secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
Notes: Secondary audio is inaudible on PowerDVD 11 over LAN.

Animal House (Full Backup 1-pass CRF to BD25)
- VC1/VC1
- DTS Express for secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled: main video glitches (chp 28), secondary video glitches
0.39.02, LAVF disabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK (chp28 verified), secondary video OK
0.39.02 with x264 from 0.39.01, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK (chp28 verified), secondary video OK
0.39.02, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX disabled: main video glitches (chp 28), secondary video glitches
Notes: Main audio volume is lowered when PiP window opens, but secondary audio remains inaudible on PowerDVD 11 over LAN.

Stand By Me (Full Backup 2-pass High Speed Option to BD25)
- AVC/AVC
- DTS Express for secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
Notes: Secondary audio is inaudible on PowerDVD 11 over LAN.

The Wizard of Oz (1939; Full Backup 1-pass CRF to BD25)
- VC1/VC1
- No secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled: Severe glitches in main video for the first 86 seconds (movie starts with credits), glitches then disappear for 12 seconds, then resume until credits fade to black. Rest of the movie appears to play without video glitching.
0.39.02 with x264 from 0.39.01, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled, 2-pass Very Slow: main video OK, secondary video OK
Notes: BDInfo lists secondary video but the track is preceded by an asterisk denoting a hidden track; it's activated by selecting the "Sing-along with the movie" feature which displays song lyrics as animated on-screen text.

RED (Full Backup 1-pass CRF to BD25)
- AVC/AVC
- DTS Express for secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, DEINT enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
Notes: Secondary audio is inaudible on PowerDVD 11 over LAN.

Running a full backup of Animal House now, with LAVF and DTSX enabled, but with x264 copied over from BD-RB 0.39.01.

edit: Added result of running Animal House on 0.39.02 using x264 from 0.39.01.

edit: Added result of running The Wizard of Oz on 0.39.02 using x264 from 0.39.01.

edit: Added Animal House on vanilla 0.39.02 with LAVF enabled but DTSX disabled.

[jdobbs]

When in movie and menu mode should the main menus animation be blanked?No. What disc are you encoding?

[jdobbs]

Hi,

Anyone any ideas why whilst trying to backup Megamind (using 0.39.02) BDRB only sees the main movie when I select DVD9 as the target size?? Otherwise, I get the "target is too small..." error.

The image appears fine (41.5Gb) and can play no probs.

Oh, should say this only happens with "Full Backup", movie only seems alright.

Cheers I'm pretty sure I know what's causing it. It's a condition of the User Operations masking that makes BD Rebuilder think the feature is a menu. A dumb mistake on my part, luckily it is very rare. I've fixed it for the next release.

[drmih]

Risky Business (Full Backup 1-pass CRF to BD25)
- VC1/VC1
- Dolby Digital Plus for secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, "Use DEINT" enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video glitches
0.39.02, LAVF enabled, "Use DEINT" enabled, DTSX disabled: main video OK, secondary video glitches
0.39.02, LAVF disabled, "Use DEINT" enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
0.39.01, LAVF enabled, "Use DEINT" enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
Notes: Secondary audio is audible on PowerDVD 11 over LAN.

Battle Los Angeles (Full Backup 1-pass CRF to BD25)
- AVC/AVC
- DTS Express for secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, "Use DEINT" enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
Notes: Secondary audio is inaudible on PowerDVD 11 over LAN.

Animal House (Full Backup 1-pass CRF to BD25)
- VC1/VC1
- DTS Express for secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, "Use DEINT" enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video glitches
0.39.02, LAVF disabled, "Use DEINT" enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
Notes: Main audio gets lower in volume when PiP window opens, but secondary audio remains inaudible on PowerDVD 11 over LAN.

Stand By Me (Full Backup 2-pass High Speed Option to BD25)
- AVC/AVC
- DTS Express for secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, "Use DEINT" enabled, DTSX enabled: main video OK, secondary video OK
Notes: Secondary audio is inaudible on PowerDVD 11 over LAN.

The Wizard of Oz (1939; Full Backup 1-pass CRF to BD25)
- VC1/VC1
- No secondary audio

0.39.02, LAVF enabled, "Use DEINT" enabled, DTSX enabled: Severe glitches in main video for the first 86 seconds (movie starts with credits), glitches then disappear for 12 seconds and return to resume until credits fade to black. Rest of the movie appears to play without video glitching.
Notes: BDInfo lists secondary video but the track is preceded by an asterisk denoting a hidden track; it's activated by selecting the "Sing-along with the movie" feature which displays song lyrics as animated on-screen text.

Running a full backup of Animal House now, with LAVF and DTSX enabled, but with x264 copied over from BD-RB 0.39.01.

I hadn't got DEINT enabled, so I will try my discs again.

[colinhunt]

I hadn't got DEINT enabled, so I will try my discs again.
Don't. I'm fairly certain it has no effect. I ran one backup with DEINT disabled and it made no difference.

[drmih]

Don't. I'm fairly certain it has no effect. I ran one backup with DEINT disabled and it made no difference.

...but I get problems on the main video which you don't seem to get. The only thing I haven't tried is DEINT. My Animal House definitely had main video glitches but none of yours did.

[jdobbs]

Don't. I'm fairly certain it has no effect. I ran one backup with DEINT disabled and it made no difference. It isn't used unless the source is interlaced.

[colinhunt]

...but I get problems on the main video which you don't seem to get. The only thing I haven't tried is DEINT. My Animal House definitely had main video glitches but none of yours did.
The problem is that I'm certain I saw glitches in main video on one of the earlier backups - but I don't remember which one! From now on I will keep better notes on the results. Also, as you can see from Wizard of Oz, the glitches do not necessarily run through the entire movie which makes this even harder.

[colinhunt]

It isn't used unless the source is interlaced.
Yeah, I know... I was just going through the variables and tried changing that option on a whim.

[drmih]

Thanks - I've just aborted Terminator 2, but not before I identified the usual glitches were present.

[Ch3vr0n]

Just did an encode of "The Fast & The Furious", full backup (non-blanking). Pip is severely pixellated, audio is totally out of sync, pip doesnt play smooth at all. Neither does the u-control tutorial. Main movie also pixellated at point, sometimes more then other. Main movie also has 2 pip streams. What bugs me though is that a scan of the ripped content sais the codec is VC-1. When i scan the final ISO, everything has changed to AVC (mpeg 4). Is that the cause. IVTC is selected, deinterlacer is not.

Very weird.

[colinhunt]

Added the result of using x264 from 0.39.01 in 0.39.02 to do a Full backup of Animal House to my post listing various encoding results.

Using x264 from earlier BD-RB got rid of glitching in secondary video.

[Ch3vr0n]

I'll run a test on TF&TF using that x264 build aswell later today and post back results.

[colinhunt]

What bugs me though is that a scan of the ripped content sais the codec is VC-1. When i scan the final ISO, everything has changed to AVC (mpeg 4).
Well, x264 is an AVC encoder; it won't output VC-1. So when the source is too large to fit on the destination (BD25 or whatever) as-is, video streams need to be re-encoded and the output is always AVC when using x264.

IVTC is selected, deinterlacer is not.
I would do another run with IVTC disabled, just to make sure. I had a couple of encodes in the past where IVTC messed things up so I disabled it and haven't used it since.

[jdobbs]

Thanks - I've just aborted Terminator 2, but not before I identified the usual glitches were present. They're in the same spot? That sure sounds like it is occuring during frame-serving... which is usually an indication of a CODEC issue.

[jdobbs]

Just did an encode of "The Fast & The Furious", full backup (non-blanking). Pip is severely pixellated, audio is totally out of sync, pip doesnt play smooth at all. Neither does the u-control tutorial. Main movie also pixellated at point, sometimes more then other. Main movie also has 2 pip streams. What bugs me though is that a scan of the ripped content sais the codec is VC-1. When i scan the final ISO, everything has changed to AVC (mpeg 4). Is that the cause. IVTC is selected, deinterlacer is not.

Very weird. Always try it with DTSX_ENABLED=0 if you're having problems. I'm pretty sure the pixelation will go away. It's likely a muxing/timing issue.

[Ch3vr0n]

I got a backup already on BD-50 that's working fine. The reason i want a new backup is the ones that i have now are verbatim branded double layers. On all my other backups are printables, so once i've done a backup i print a disc label on it, insert a HR scan of my original retail box cover and it looks just like an original :). I'm not doing a single layer and lose the pip audio. I may just as well use the branded dl then. I don't like loosing out on stuff

[colinhunt]

Added info on another run of The Wizard of Oz using x264 from 0.39.01; no glitching in main video. It certainly is starting to look like x264.exe packaged with 0.39.02 has issues decoding VC-1 sources using LAVF.

[Shylock]

Using BD-RB for more than a year now. Never had any issues so far. Experiencing now the same blocking glitches with VC-1 sources (Jurassic Park Trilogy - Zone A).
Using BD-RB 0.39.01 and LAVF on JP 1: no issues
BD-RB 0.39.02 and LAVF on JP 2 an JP 3: Blocking on all the encoded x264 video.
i'm rolling back to the previous version of x264.exe and testing.

[jdobbs]

Added info on another run of The Wizard of Oz using x264 from 0.39.01; no glitching in main video. It certainly is starting to look like x264.exe packaged with 0.39.02 has issues decoding VC-1 sources using LAVF.I think I've heard enough to agree. I rarely use LAVF and that is typically only in testing, which would explain why I haven't seen any issues in my encodes.

[Ch3vr0n]

I'm re-running TFATF with the x264 from 39.01, will report back on the pip quality and audio sync issues

[drmih]

I have just run Terminator 2 with x264 from 39.01 and there is no sign of any blocking, and I have past the point where it had always occurred so far. Considering that I have tried with and without LAVF on the x264 version with 39.02, and got blocks on both, it looks to be totally down to the x264 version.

[Capsbackup]

Never noticed any blocking issues on my encodes, regardless of BD5/9 or BD-25. Never have even tried LAVF! ;)

[colinhunt]

Added Animal House on vanilla 0.39.02 with LAVF enabled and DTSX disabled. Glitches in both main and secondary video; now checking earlier runs for glitches in main video. Start of chapter 28 is a good checkpoint.

edit: checked start of chapter 28 of earlier runs. Results speak for LAVF issue with VC-1 sources in the x264.exe packaged with BD-RB 0.39.02.

Using x264.exe from 0.39.01 appears to solve the video glitching issue.

[colinhunt]

I think I've heard enough to agree. I rarely use LAVF and that is typically only in testing, which would explain why I haven't seen any issues in my encodes.
Even if you had tested with VC-1 sources and LAVF extensively, you might still have missed main video glitching because it is not visible all the way through the movie.

[colinhunt]

Considering that I have tried with and without LAVF on the x264 version with 39.02, and got blocks on both, it looks to be totally down to the x264 version.
Hang on. You get blocking even when using FFDShow instead of LAVF? That's not what I'm getting on 0.39.02.

[jfcarbel]

Trying to figure a way to backup Spiderman 2.1 title, but it has 2 playlists for main movie. I only want the extended cut and menus.

Tried making note of the extended cut playlists m2ts streams, then selected full backup and had edit mode on, but when I tried deselecting the titles from the theatrical cut playlist it deselected them all including the extended cut ones.

Not sure there is a way to do this in current version, unless you can create hidden option for an advanced edit mode where we can blank any title without validations on.

Is there any current way to do this with current version? Could I maybe do a full backup and then after the backup just replace the m2ts streams for theatrical cut with with the dummy m2ts streams.

Or is there a way to blank by playlist? A better option might be to select playlist wanted and keep menus.

[drmih]

Hang on. You get blocking even when using FFDShow instead of LAVF? That's not what I'm getting on 0.39.02.

Yes, check my post #13392. The only one I have not seen blocking in the opening studio credits (I'm still running it but have checked the m2ts) is with the x264 executable replaced. That is with LAVF enabled.

[Ch3vr0n]

I can confirm that the x264 from build 39.01 fixed the glitching and smoothed out pip video on TFATF. However it did not fix the out of sync audio. What do you want me to try next. A rebuild without LAVF or without IVTC (i recon the first as i did not see any IVTC messages during the rebuild)

[jdobbs]

I've been able to confirm glitches when using LAVF on VC-1 (Bourne Supremacy). I haven't been able to find any issues without LAVF (the same encode is glitch-free), but I'm still testing. I'm going back one X264 release (to r2085) to see if it repeats there.

[Ch3vr0n]

any idea on my audio sync issue?

[jdobbs]

any idea on my audio sync issue? Not unless it is similar to the "Hobo with a Shotgun" issue.

[colinhunt]

any idea on my audio sync issue?
Do a quick run without IVTC; it's done odd things to my encodes in the past.

[Ch3vr0n]

@JD: nope, the audio is out of sync for the pip. Main movie is fine (i think, deleted the iso already). I'll run another without LAVF first, since i've seen no IVTC messages in the log. Backup is a full backup (not the menu's & movie mode)

[drmih]

Just checked Terminator 2 which was done with LAVF enabled but with the earlier x264. Everything is fine on the copy and in TMT on a PC, and on a Panasonic standalone, the PiP works fine. On a Samsung and Sony the PiP audio is missing. Got the usual CPI Reset Flag warning from IMGBurn for the disc.

[big_moviefreak]

Has anyone completed a movie only backup of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides [Blu-ray] (2011)? I'm working on my third attempt. If it fails this time will post log in my next post.

I keep seeing mentions of a movie and menus option but not seeing as a option under mode.

[Ch3vr0n]

Disabling LAVF didnt fix it either. I skipped a long time you can hear the pip audio long before the pip stream even starts, then when i skipped a while ahead the audio has already stopped but you can see the pip stream (director) still talking. Something's off for sure

[sonate]

I have no idea what those numbers are. Are you talking about v0.39.2?

If so, the question is: Why is it I'm not seeing any issue?

Sorry about the delay. We have been without power for over 2 days, got hit with 13 inches of wet snow while trees were still with green leaves. Trees and wires down like a bomb hit the area. I'm sending this message from my local library which is one of the few places which has power and internet access. Will be in touch.....

[JJB]

Has anyone completed a movie only backup of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides [Blu-ray] (2011)? I'm working on my third attempt. If it fails this time will post log in my next post.

I keep seeing mentions of a movie and menus option but not seeing as a option under mode.

Maker sure the following is in your .ini file:
ENABLE_TEST=1

Then you will see it under Mode.

Read here: http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1526277&postcount=12911

[Ch3vr0n]

@Jdobbs: forget about my TFATF issue. Somehow i thought the directors comments was the option that would enable the pip stream. It wasnt. It was the U-Control feature. Playing the original backup, enable U-Control and the audio for the pip was running straight from the disc. Somehow the Pip audio from the ISO would not be found by PowerDVD, some flag got changed? Took the chance and burnt the ISO to disc, pip stream (with the previous x264 build) was running smooth and audio was in sync, running from my standalone DMP-BD85. I inserted the burnt backup into PowerDVD again and it wouldnt play the pip audio either. Is some flag getting changed that prevents pip audio to be found in certain cases?

[jdobbs]

Has anyone completed a movie only backup of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides [Blu-ray] (2011)? I'm working on my third attempt. If it fails this time will post log in my next post.

I keep seeing mentions of a movie and menus option but not seeing as a option under mode. I've backed it up with no issues.

[jdobbs]

@Jdobbs: forget about my TFATF issue. Somehow i thought the directors comments was the option that would enable the pip stream. It wasnt. It was the U-Control feature. Playing the original backup, enable U-Control and the audio for the pip was running straight from the disc. Somehow the Pip audio from the ISO would not be found by PowerDVD, some flag got changed? Took the chance and burnt the ISO to disc, pip stream (with the previous x264 build) was running smooth and audio was in sync, running from my standalone DMP-BD85. I inserted the burnt backup into PowerDVD again and it wouldnt play the pip audio either. Is some flag getting changed that prevents pip audio to be found in certain cases? I wish I knew. I've looked at everything I can think of and have compared the original MPLS, CLPI, and M2TS against the backup. I've found nothing yet.

[Ch3vr0n]

Wish i could help you there, but there has to be something that's causing this behavior. a 1:1 backup has auto-audio, the shrinked (full backup, not movie & menu's) doesnt. Powerdvd doesnt "find" the audio to output it, though if you rightclick in the video stream and go to pip audio, the stream is selected. You just don't hear it.

[drmih]

Have there been any suggestions yet why PiP re-encodes trigger the Reset CPI Flag in IMGBurn?

[Ch3vr0n]

They don't always do. I've had multiple burns with re-encoded pip that didnt trigger that message. Besides you can safely disable the "Reset Copy Permission Indicator Flag". From the official IMGBurn source: http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=6232

Reset Copy Permission Indicator Flag

This option will reset the CPI (Copy Permission Indicator) flags within M2TS file packets when you create an image/disc in Build mode.
This was a request from someone at a duplication plant to save them having to mux two projects - one with AACS and one without.
The 'Reset Copy Permission Indicator Flag' feature automatically disables itself if the compilation includes an 'AACS_bd' or 'AACS_mv' folder in the root.

The flag is located under settings > build > page 2 > Left side, bottom checkbox under "Blu-ray Video"

[drmih]

I know how to stop it but from my experience it has been 100% those discs which are PiP re-encodes. I have never had it on any of the hundreds of none PiP discs I've done. As far as I can see it is only on the M2TS files which contain PiP from the STREAM directory. It must have some significance.

[Ch3vr0n]

Didnt you read my previous message

This was a request from someone at a duplication plant to save them having to mux two projects - one with AACS and one without.

It only matters if you're running a blu-ray duplicator machine

[drmih]

We're trying to discover why the PiP functionality isn't working correctly, or at least not on the majority of stand alone players. Nobody has been able to identify what might be wrong with the structure but at least for me, and others, the first sight of this IMGBurn warning has only occurred on re-encodes with PiP and DTSX. You may have done many discs which disprove this, but I haven't.

Rather than question people's capability to read, perhaps you can suggest why we are getting this message for the first time on these re-encodes.

[Ch3vr0n]

Well that message has been there WAY before bdrb had DTS-E capabilities, i doubt its related to it.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=422
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=17653
IMGBurn Version 2.4.3.0 * Release Date: Apr 2, 2009

Added: Option to have ImgBurn reset the CPI flags within M2TS file packets as it creates an image/disc in Build mode - this was a request from someone at a duplication plant to save them having to mux two projects - one with AACS and one without.

I doubt BDRB had DTS-express capabilities in april 2009. If i havent misread its working properly on the majority and not on some and atleast odd on PowerDVD sometimes it finds the audio sometimes it doesnt. JDobbs already stated he compared the related files and doesnt see anything different

[sparky99999]

Has anyone completed a movie only backup of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides [Blu-ray] (2011)? I'm working on my third attempt. If it fails this time will post log in my next post.

I keep seeing mentions of a movie and menus option but not seeing as a option under mode.



Yes I have completed a movie only backup of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides no problems.;);)