BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Stigmatta]

Bah, ya i just found out its not freeware lol
Well im gonna try again with dvd-9 and a few other changes, see how it goes...

[jdobbs]

Bah, ya i just found out its not freeware lol
Well im gonna try again with dvd-9 and a few other changes, see how it goes...I just completed one of the STNG series discs and it works fine as well (although the quality is pretty poor having put more than 4 hours of HD video on a BD-9).

[Stigmatta]

Interesting...well i have one bluray going atm, probably be done a bit later when i get home.
One question, is it best to delete the ANY! and ANYVM folders when done? Ive never deleted them in the past but if its best to do so, then i will from now on.

[DoctorM]

I'll look at it. But I don't get what you're saying. The input size is the size before removal or reencoding -- thus the name "Input Size". It includes everything except files that will be copied intact (full backup mode).

The determination as to whether it is kept intact is made when the file is extracted. If the video + kept-audio + kept-subtitles are small enought to hit the target without encoding... then encoding is avoided.

Thank you. I know it seems ridiculous, but a good test is a movie only where video plus all audio tracks is oversized and Video minus most audio tracks fits on a BD25.

When I did this BD-RB started re-encoding, but running the same thing through tsmuxer with a BD output the final disc was undersized.

To be fair the source disc had a LOT of audio tracks.

[jdobbs]

Thank you. I know it seems ridiculous, but a good test is a movie only where video plus all audio tracks is oversized and Video minus most audio tracks fits on a BD25.

When I did this BD-RB started re-encoding, but running the same thing through tsmuxer with a BD output the final disc was undersized.

To be fair the source disc had a LOT of audio tracks.The number of tracks really doesn't matter. BD-RB accounts for the audio size when it does it's processing. Can you give me a specific title with which you are having problems?

[Jake802]

Any Ideas as to what I am doing wrong.....

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[02/19/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.13 (beta)
[01:48:21] Source: MARVELS_THOR_THE_DARK_WORLD_3D_01800
- Input BD size: 37.89 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:52:03.299]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[01:48:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:48:22] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 1)
- [01:48:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [02:05:27] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 161,198 frames
- Bitrate: 21,326 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [02:05:28] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:14:59] Video Encode complete
- [18:14:59] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
[18:14:59]PHASE ONE complete
[18:14:59]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:14:59] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
-
[18:25:51] - Failed to REBUILD

[Jake802]

NVM I think I ran out of Space!

[omegaman7]

NVM I think I ran out of Space!

I thought Jdobbs, setup code to prevent that kind of error. Or at least warn you prior to running the job??

[gonca]

I thought Jdobbs, setup code to prevent that kind of error. Or at least warn you prior to running the job??

I think it might be for the next version. I guess he's got to make sure we don't hurt ourselves to badly with self inflicted wounds :rolleyes:

[Stigmatta]

Nope, tried again this time with DVD-9 settings and still wont play in my bluray player or Powerdvd. Here are the files if you wanna check it out.

[jdobbs]

I thought Jdobbs, setup code to prevent that kind of error. Or at least warn you prior to running the job??No. But the error output and INSPECT report now shows the amount of space available.

[jdobbs]

Nope, tried again this time with DVD-9 settings and still wont play in my bluray player or Powerdvd. Here are the files if you wanna check it out. Post the contents of BDREBUILDER.INI and I'll try a job with your settings. Any possibility your player has had an update lately?

Did you reinstall everything as I suggested?

It's also possible that your burner has gone bad.

[gonca]

Interesting...well i have one bluray going atm, probably be done a bit later when i get home.
One question, is it best to delete the ANY! and ANYVM folders when done? Ive never deleted them in the past but if its best to do so, then i will from now on.

Rip to HDD and try it that way

[Ch3vr0n]

No need to either manually remove the folders not do to HDD. There is a setting in bdrb to do just that, ignore ask covers but the bdmv and certificate folders.

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[Sesselmarder]

I am having some issues when trying to rebuild any of the 5 discs of "Games of Thrones S1" to BD25. All other movies run without any issues.
After I start the rebuild process, BD Rebuilder just stops working/reencoding at a random spot. When I abort and restart the session, it will eventually stop again, but at a different spot.
Has anybody seen this before? Any help is appreciated!

[02/19/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.07 (beta)
[19:28:03] Source: GAMEOFTHRONES_D1
- Input BD size: 43.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:20:38.346]
- Target BD size: 23.93 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:28:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:28:03] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 54)
- [19:28:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [19:33:50] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [19:33:50] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02] <<<<<<< stops here

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

I am having some issues when trying to rebuild any of the 5 discs of "Games of Thrones S1" to BD25. All other movies run without any issues.
After I start the rebuild process, BD Rebuilder just stops working/reencoding at a random spot. When I abort and restart the session, it will eventually stop again, but at a different spot.
Has anybody seen this before? Any help is appreciated!

[02/19/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.07 (beta)
[19:28:03] Source: GAMEOFTHRONES_D1
- Input BD size: 43.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:20:38.346]
- Target BD size: 23.93 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:28:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:28:03] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 54)
- [19:28:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [19:33:50] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [19:33:50] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02] <<<<<<< stops here

I'd recommend updating to the BD Rebuilder 0.46.13 beta to start with. Update and then see how things go.

[Sesselmarder]

Just updated to version v0.46.13 and tried again, but still having the same problem.
Reencode stops after a few minutes...

[02/19/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.13 (beta)
[22:45:56] Source: GAMEOFTHRONES_D1
- Input BD size: 43.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:20:38.346]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:45:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:45:56] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 54)
- [22:45:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [22:51:40] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [22:51:40] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02] <<<<<< stops here

[setarip_old]

@Jake802

Hi!
Marvel's "Thor: The Dark World" is now available on Digital 3D and Digital HD, and you can pre-order the film on Blu-ray 3D Combo Pack, Blu-ray and DVD before it hits shelves February 25.

Perhaps there will be some changes/fixes on or before the official release date...

[DoctorM]

The number of tracks really doesn't matter. BD-RB accounts for the audio size when it does it's processing. Can you give me a specific title with which you are having problems?

To eliminate my PC's old CPU as the issue I rolled back my calendar and reloaded v45.05.

Tested again with the Tinker Bell movie. Movie only, one audio track (DD 640kbps) and found the same results. I checked the .INF file that is created instantly when 'Backup' is clicked:
[Status]
LABEL=TINKTEST
VERSION=v0.45.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=25539293184
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=25539293184
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.964848001957923
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=010000000
PGS=1000000000000000000

I see the Source_Size is identical to the Source_Video_Size. Shouldn't one of those numbers represent the size without the disabled tracks or something?

The actual size of video track alone is 16,875,900,586 bytes (found after manually demuxing with txMuxeR). Adding a plain old DD track to that shouldn't exceed a BD25.

Tested another BD out of curiosity and again saw that the SOURCE_SIZE and SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE are identical numbers.
v46.13 works identically.

[Stigmatta]

Well, ive tried everything and nothing works...All my other movies play and rip fine on my computer and bluray player, just these series discs just dont wanna work for some reason.

heres the INI file

[Status]
LABEL=SIMPSONS_S13_D2
VERSION=v0.46.13 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=45223997719
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=44940490752
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.181098500012215
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=33
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00011]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=3023122
RATE=2007
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27405405
NSIZE=3065856
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00020]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=30878795
RATE=2768
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=30007296
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00021]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=11250198
RATE=2774
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=10795008
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00022]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=11250198
RATE=2774
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=10795008
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00122]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=3729667
RATE=2256
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27499248
NSIZE=4048896
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00123]
AUDIO=
PGS=
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=7320251
RATE=3576
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27685059
NSIZE=7280640
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00301]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2217550
RATE=801
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27710209
NSIZE=2291712
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00302]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2800588
RATE=887
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27828828
NSIZE=2893824
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00303]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=3766385
RATE=901
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28100599
NSIZE=3883008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00304]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=4417297
RATE=928
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28261260
NSIZE=4466688
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00306]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2119635
RATE=820
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27666666
NSIZE=2217984
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00307]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=2217550
RATE=767
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27734233
NSIZE=2267136
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00308]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=9122775
RATE=1105
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29262760
NSIZE=9259008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00309]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=6275454
RATE=1025
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28654653
NSIZE=6457344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00310]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=3716315
RATE=982
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28015014
NSIZE=3796992
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00311]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=2
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=6755015
RATE=1033
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28770268
NSIZE=6875136
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00312]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=36537831
RATE=462
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=44313796
NSIZE=38406144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00313]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=12310572
RATE=990
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30339336
NSIZE=12625920
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00314]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=4565282
RATE=1152
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28094593
NSIZE=4632576
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00315]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=3020897
RATE=1095
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27755254
NSIZE=3115008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00316]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=3575006
RATE=1164
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27849849
NSIZE=3692544
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00317]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=18739574
RATE=1146
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31513509
NSIZE=18991104
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00318]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=19717611
RATE=1226
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31490986
NSIZE=19961856
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00319]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=4523000
RATE=471
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29118616
NSIZE=4749312
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00322]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
MSCAN=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=56267681
RATE=844
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=44313796
NSIZE=57735168
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00800]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=989486691
RATE=3670
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=87992806
NSIZE=972552192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00801]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=993049458
RATE=3690
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=88039728
NSIZE=977977344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00802]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=991591861
RATE=3688
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=88064127
NSIZE=976551936
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00803]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=991406046
RATE=3675
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=88030344
NSIZE=975544320
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00804]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=990432460
RATE=3678
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=88041605
NSIZE=974696448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00805]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=951800586
RATE=3677
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=85554746
NSIZE=937826304
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00806]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=990957640
RATE=3687
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=87977791
NSIZE=975611904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00807]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=969812475
RATE=3667
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=86804744
NSIZE=951484416
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Capsbackup]

@DoctorM,
Have you tried setting the output size to BD-50?
If your goal is to not reencode, and you are certain the output will fit a BD-25 when unwanted audio and subtitles are removed, then this should keep BD-RB from reencoding any files.
If any of the files are not Blu-ray compliant resolution though, then reencoding must take place!

[jdobbs]

@Stigmatta

I mentioned this earlier. I suspect that the series discs you are trying to backup use JAVA for the menus. AVCHD doesn't support JAVA. Some players are strict when it comes to DVD discs, and will only play them if they strictly comply with AVCHD. Are you sure that isn't the case with your series backups?

The second possibility is burner issues. BD-RB will output to your hard drive before burning to disc. Have you tried playing the folder on the hard drive with PowerDVD?

[Stigmatta]

I honestly dont know. Im trying game of thrones and the simpsons. How can i find out if they do use java? Sorry to sound stupid if its easy to do lol.

[Stigmatta]

Im ripping to my hard drive but not burning the files with BDRB, im dropping the files into IMGBURN.
Yes, i can play the m2ts files fine in powerdvd

[jdobbs]

Im ripping to my hard drive but not burning the files with BDRB, im dropping the files into IMGBURN.
Yes, i can play the m2ts files fine in powerdvdBut can you play the BD structure? You should be able to play it (in PowerDVD) with menus and all by selecting the folder. I'm not talking about the folder you ripped, I mean the one that is created by BD-RB in your working folder.

[Stigmatta]

But can you play the BD structure? You should be able to play it (in PowerDVD) with menus and all by selecting the folder. I'm not talking about the folder you ripped, I mean the one that is created by BD-RB in your working folder.


Ok, so i dragged and dropped the folders on Powerdvd and the picture is all black but does look like it would work if i could see the menus. My only guess its some kind of menus problem...? Some kind of java situation with these titles like you stated? Any other options for some kind of work around?

[jdobbs]

Ok, so i dragged and dropped the folders on Powerdvd and the picture is all black but does look like it would work if i could see the menus. My only guess its some kind of menus problem...? Some kind of java situation with these titles like you stated? Any other options for some kind of work around?Import the disc, and then do a full backup of the import (to get it down to size). That will create a disc without JAVA that contains all the episodes.

Of course, if the problem turns out to be your burner -- you'll still be in the same boat.

[jdobbs]

@DoctorM,
Have you tried setting the output size to BD-50?
If your goal is to not reencode, and you are certain the output will fit a BD-25 when unwanted audio and subtitles are removed, then this should keep BD-RB from reencoding any files.
If any of the files are not Blu-ray compliant resolution though, then reencoding must take place!Just a note: You have to be careful with when selecting larger sizes in order to force BD-RB to keep original video intact. If your intent is to output to BD-5/9 -- the VIDEO HAS TO BE RE-ENCODED and it should NEVER be forced to be kept intact by setting a larger size or asserting the FORCE_NOENCODE hidden option. This is because the maximum bitrate for BD-5/9 is much, much lower than BD-25/50. Forcing BD-RB to keep something intact that is destined for BD-5/9 will likely result in severe playback issues. The disc transfer rate of the DVD media will not be able to keep up with the original bitrate.

If left to it's own devices, BD-RB will never keep video destined for BD-5/9 intact. So anyone who decides to "get-around" this should be warned that they are creating a self-inflicted-wound that is NOT the fault of the software.

[Stigmatta]

Well i tried doing the import thing you asked and it still seems to be some sort of menus issue, even when i drop into Powerdvd. Anyone else have problems with Game of thrones or Simpsons blurays possibly besides me? Oh well, i might call it quits on these, as i really dont wanna make them into mkv/mp4 files...:(

[HWK]

Just a note: You have to be careful with when selecting larger sizes in order to force BD-RB to keep original video intact. If your intent is to output to BD-5/9 -- the VIDEO HAS TO BE RE-ENCODED and it should NEVER be forced to be kept intact by setting a larger size or asserting the FORCE_NOENCODE hidden option. This is because the maximum bitrate for BD-5/9 is much, much lower than BD-25/50. Forcing BD-RB to keep something intact that is destined for BD-5/9 will likely result in severe playback issues. The disc transfer rate of the DVD media will not be able to keep up with the original bitrate.

If left to it's own devices, BD-RB will never keep video destined for BD-5/9 intact. So anyone who decides to "get-around" this should be warned that they are creating a self-inflicted-wound that is NOT the fault of the software.

Jdobbs, I suggest put it on first post, otherwise it will get buried and folks will complain when error occurs.

[jdobbs]

Well i tried doing the import thing you asked and it still seems to be some sort of menus issue, even when i drop into Powerdvd. Anyone else have problems with Game of thrones or Simpsons blurays possibly besides me? Oh well, i might call it quits on these, as i really dont wanna make them into mkv/mp4 files...:(There's definitely something wrong from your end. The HDMV menus from IMPORTING are created by BD-RB -- they aren't even on the original.

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs, I suggest put it on first post, otherwise it will get buried and folks will complain when error occurs.I added it to the sticky "BD Rebuilder (BD-RB) Frequently Asked Questions"

[Stigmatta]

Ya maybe ill do a format of my comp this weekend and see how things go if i cant get it worked out. thanks for your help.

[jdobbs]

Ya maybe ill do a format of my comp this weekend and see how things go if i cant get it worked out. thanks for your help.Check that burner...

[Stigmatta]

Looks like i figured it out!!!
So, for the hell of it, i tried playing the original bluray in PowerDVD and it ended up crashing and saying my display was not HDCP compliant which i thought seemed very wierd. So i ended up doing some research and also remembered i just recently hooked up my monitor with a mini-hdmi cable. As soon as i got home from work i switched my monitor back to using a DVI cable instead, and instantly NVIDIA control panel said my monitor was now hdcp compliant. So i dropped one of those folders i made onto PowerDVD and BAM, it played!!! So it seems all it was, was just an HDCP issue and just a stupid little mini-hdmi cable, ughhhhh. Guess ill just have to re-rip these discs which isnt a big deal.

[jdobbs]

Looks like i figured it out!!!
So, for the hell of it, i tried playing the original bluray in PowerDVD and it ended up crashing and saying my display was not HDCP compliant which i thought seemed very wierd. So i ended up doing some research and also remembered i just recently hooked up my monitor with a mini-hdmi cable. As soon as i got home from work i switched my monitor back to using a DVI cable instead, and instantly NVIDIA control panel said my monitor was now hdcp compliant. So i dropped one of those folders i made onto PowerDVD and BAM, it played!!! So it seems all it was, was just an HDCP issue and just a stupid little mini-hdmi cable, ughhhhh. Guess ill just have to re-rip these discs which isnt a big deal.Good to know you got it worked out. Thanks.

[Capsbackup]

Pop-up error: tsmuxer.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Seriously, that log was about it. Here is the full log going from a BD25 to BD25 movie only (just for the quick log):
[02/19/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.13 (beta)
[01:59:35] Source: ***
- Input BD size: 21.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:09:44.777]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), CRF
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[01:59:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:59:37] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [01:59:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Network Optix tsMuxeR. Version 2.6.12. www.networkoptix.com
[02:00:07] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Has there been a change in the version of tsMuxeR? Does the new one have different system requirements or something?

Edit: Yeah, swapped out the tsmuxer.exe with an older one and it works fine. Something hinky in new version.
Edit 2: Just tested a dozen versions of tsmuxer, I can't run any version past 1.10.6. Something in the new code either doesn't like my WinXP or old CPU.
Hopefully, I can keep copying 1.10.6 into your new releases and it'll work. My PC isn't getting upgraded any time soon and I sure won't want to be doing without BDRB.

Edit 3: Noticed something else. "Input BD size" shown in the log still includes the disabled audio and subtitle tracks.
I've now seen this force an unnecessary re-encoding. It probably also causes undersized discs.

I completely understand you not supporting a really old CPU. I'll continue to swap tsmuxer or use old versions as long as I have to. That's my problem.
But the calculations for that take place before Tsmuxer becomes involved.

Unless you've addressed an issue with the "BD Input Size" being wrong recently, you should take a look. Same log: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1669241#post1669241
The original M2TS is 21.79gb as being reported, but more than a gig of audio tracks were disabled there. BDRB doesn't deduct that and forces a re-encode even though only a rebuild is needed.

True for Movie Only and Movie with Menus.

Just a note: You have to be careful with when selecting larger sizes in order to force BD-RB to keep original video intact. If your intent is to output to BD-5/9 -- the VIDEO HAS TO BE RE-ENCODED and it should NEVER be forced to be kept intact by setting a larger size or asserting the FORCE_NOENCODE hidden option. This is because the maximum bitrate for BD-5/9 is much, much lower than BD-25/50. Forcing BD-RB to keep something intact that is destined for BD-5/9 will likely result in severe playback issues. The disc transfer rate of the DVD media will not be able to keep up with the original bitrate.

If left to it's own devices, BD-RB will never keep video destined for BD-5/9 intact. So anyone who decides to "get-around" this should be warned that they are creating a self-inflicted-wound that is NOT the fault of the software.

Yes I am aware of this for BD5-BD9 size. :)
But DoctorM was referring to only having to remove some audio files to avoid reencoding, and keep BD-25 size. But since he stated BD-RB was reencoding it anyways, even though he felt it should fit to a BD-25, I mentioned this method would certainly avoid reencoding if to fit BD-25 was the goal.
However, since the source movie was removed/edited from his log, we cannot tell if this is a BD compliant Blu-ray.(1920x1080, etc...) If it is not, then BD-RB must reencode it, regardless of size, to make it compliant.

[DoctorM]

However, since the source movie was removed/edited from his log, we cannot tell if this is a BD compliant Blu-ray.(1920x1080, etc...) If it is not, then BD-RB must reencode it, regardless of size, to make it compliant.

As later mentioned, it's the Tinker Bell movie. Thanks for making me say it twice. :D

General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : .\Tinktest\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 23.8 GiB
Duration : 1h 17mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 43.7 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 17mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 29.8 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 31.9 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.600
Stream size : 16.3 GiB (68%)
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

And again, the .INI was showing: REDUCTION=.964848001957923
So it isn't re-encoding because of the format.

[jdobbs]

Yes I am aware of this for BD5-BD9 size. :)
But DoctorM was referring to only having to remove some audio files to avoid reencoding, and keep BD-25 size. But since he stated BD-RB was reencoding it anyways, even though he felt it should fit to a BD-25, I mentioned this method would certainly avoid reencoding if to fit BD-25 was the goal.
However, since the source movie was removed/edited from his log, we cannot tell if this is a BD compliant Blu-ray.(1920x1080, etc...) If it is not, then BD-RB must reencode it, regardless of size, to make it compliant.When I post things, it isn't always just an answer to one post -- I try to aim at the entire reading audience.

[jdobbs]

As later mentioned, it's the Tinker Bell movie. Thanks for making me say it twice. :D

General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : .\Tinktest\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 23.8 GiB
Duration : 1h 17mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 43.7 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 17mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 29.8 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 31.9 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.600
Stream size : 16.3 GiB (68%)
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

And again, the .INI was showing: REDUCTION=.964848001957923
So it isn't re-encoding because of the format.If it says .965 -- then BD-RB has calculated that it must be reencoded to reduce that required 3.5%.

File size : 23.8 GiB

The default target size is: 22.95GB

According to one of the logs you posted you are keeping HD audio: Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640HD audio can be very large, and is probably the reason the video needs to be reduced. HD audio can also have a huge amount of muxing overhead (13-35% depending on the type).

I don't even know why we're having this discussion. BD-RB has the required files right in front of it from the demux and simply adds them up when it does the calculations.

[slvrsrfr]

In my previous run I noticed the audio had been reencoded and yours hadn't. So I changed the settings to match yours. Unfortunately, though, it completed again in perfect sync.

I don't know what else to do. All my instincts tell me something is wrong with your CODEC setup. But you've assured me everything is installed correctly and all of the recommended versions are in use. So I'm at a loss.

@jdobbs, I'm starting to get somewhere with the DVD hybrid issues that I've been having. I went through the import process on disc 2 of the Simpsons season 3 using BDRB (DVD to BD file step). I can now preview these episodes in BDRB (right-click-->Preview this item), which opens up Media Player Classic version 6.4.9.1 rev 107. It is here that the audio/video is immediately off.

So, I tried playing the same converted BD episode in PowerDVD and there is no issue at all! The audio/video is spot on! I then went back to the original DVD episode in Media Player Classic, and again, the audio/video is fine.

Does this make sense to you? Any suggestions?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs, I'm starting to get somewhere with the DVD hybrid issues that I've been having. I went through the import process on disc 2 of the Simpsons season 3 using BDRB (DVD to BD file step). I can now preview these episodes in BDRB (right-click-->Preview this item), which opens up Media Player Classic version 6.4.9.1 rev 107. It is here that the audio/video is immediately off.

So, I tried playing the same converted BD episode in PowerDVD and there is no issue at all! The audio/video is spot on! I then went back to the original DVD episode in Media Player Classic, and again, the audio/video is fine.

Does this make sense to you? Any suggestions?Don't depend on the previewer to give you perfect playback by any stretch. It is meant to preview so you know which stream contains what. It simply points to the stream with an AVS and plays it back -- without any adjustments (for the most part).

[Audiophile1178]

Jdobbs, I have a consistant issue come up on several different Blu-ray titles. Why doesn't BD Rebuilder always see all of the m2ts files? I wanted to do a normal 2-pass encode on The X-Files: I Want To Believe and BD Rebuilder isn't seeing 133 of the m2ts files which adds up to 6.4 GB in size of files that won't get encoded. That's a significant percentage (about 28%) of a BD25 that isn't going to get encoded which will take away from the main video bitrate.

Ironically, if I change the output size to BD5 or BD9 it sees a lot more m2ts files to encode but still not all of them. If it's set to either BD25 or BD50 it ignores so many more files than the BD5/BD9 setting.

I would really love to know why BD Rebuilder does this as it's not the first time that it doesn't see all the m2ts files to encode. It seems to be a constant bug with BD Rebuilder.


I've also tried adding the following lines to the config file but it doesn't make any difference:

MIN_M2TS_SIZE=1
MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=1

Usually when this problem occurs BD Rebuilder ignores 1 or 2 files which isn't too big of a deal as I can fix that easily but this times it's ignoring a lot of the m2ts files from the stream folder.

Thank you for your time and this software that we all love!

[slvrsrfr]

Don't depend on the previewer to give you perfect playback by any stretch. It is meant to preview so you know which stream contains what. It simply points to the stream with an AVS and plays it back -- without any adjustments (for the most part).

Ok, thanks for the quick reply. Sorry for the green questions, but it sounds like the only real test then is on a stand-alone player, correct? Also, how can I force audio reencodes for these? THanks again - always appreciate your responses...

[Seajunk]

Jdobbs, I have a consistant issue come up on several different Blu-ray titles. Why doesn't BD Rebuilder always see all of the m2ts files?
Do you have speedmenu's enabled in AnyDVD?

[Audiophile1178]

Do you have speedmenu's enabled in AnyDVD?

No, I don't have speedmenu enabled. I've never used that feature.

I don't try to bother Jdobbs with issues until I have tried everything else first.

This issue doesn't come up all the time but it happens enough for me to think that there's a bug somewhere that's being overlooked as I've seen it before on various other titles.

[g00g]

BD 0.46.0.13

Until version 0.46.0.5 the alternate output list contains 2 entries for mp4,1280x720,auto-gop, auto-aac and the according output was an mp4 file. Since version 0.46.0.11 the alternate output list contains only 1 entry for mp4 ... and the output is now mkv.

Further when doing a movie only backup the subtitle list of the backup contains next to the n chosen subtitles 1 more and only the first subtitle is working, for example:
- selection german, english
- backup german, english, english and only the german subtitle is working.

[jdobbs]

BD 0.46.0.13

Until version 0.46.0.5 the alternate output list contains 2 entries for mp4,1280x720,auto-gop, auto-aac and the according output was an mp4 file. Since version 0.46.0.11 the alternate output list contains only 1 entry for mp4 ... and the output is now mkv.

Further when doing a movie only backup the subtitle list of the backup contains next to the n chosen subtitles 1 more and only the first subtitle is working, for example:
- selection german, english
- backup german, english, english and only the german subtitle is working.If you don't like the choices -- edit them. The ALTERNATE.TXT file is there for that exact reason. I just populated the list with what I thought would be the most common selections.

But you're right. That choice somehow got set to an MKV container. I've changed it back for the next release (I edited the default ALTERNATE.TXT list).

[Crocluvr92]

I had an issue with the " h.264 encoder has stopped working " error that kept popping up on the last few versions of this software, but I ended up fixing it by replacing the x264 codec, but once I upgraded to the newest beta v0.46.13 I am getting that error again. I once again followed all the directions when downloading ffdshow and Mastroska Splitter and even ran the program as Administrative and I am back to getting this error. I even tested out multiple versions of x264 as well, but to avail this time. What is the reason for this? And why is there no Inspect tool included the WinZip folder with the program so I can check to see if I am running this properly?


----------------------
[02/22/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.13 (beta)
[02:05:17] Source: SALO
- Input BD size: 42.66 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:20:09.293]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[02:05:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:05:18] Processing: VID_00274 (1 of 7)
- [02:05:18] Reencoding video [VID_00274]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 167,914 frames
- Bitrate: 13,241 Kbs
- [02:05:18] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.46.13 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Working Path Free Space: 169.11GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[02:05:31] - Failed video encode, aborted

[Sharc]

Well, I finally found out what was causing this and fixed it for the next release. Too bad I didn't catch it yesterday and it could have been fixed in v0.46.13. The interesting thing is that this bug has been there for a long time -- and it just wasn't noticed by anyone. It only affects BD imports. I guess that tells me how many people actually import BDs and edit the import list. ;)
Glad you found it :)
Until the new release becomes available I wanted to re-author the existing backup, trying to fix the faulty quick-menu. As the size already fits, re-encoding is not required. However whatever I tried -- e.g. increasing the target size and including the hidden option FORCE_NOENCODE=1 -- the Quick-Play backup mode always re-encodes the video.
Do I miss something?

Edit:
It seems like "Resize to 1440x1080" did trigger the re-encoding, although the source was -- with the exception of the menu backdrop -- already at 1440x1080.
After deselecting the resize option the video was copied intact.