BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[wakko709]

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[10/03/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.17 (beta)
[14:44:07] Source: NOW_YOU_SEE_ME_00706
- Input BD size: 18.85 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:52:23.152]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:44:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:44:10] Processing: VID_00506 (1 of 15)
- [14:44:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00506]
- [14:49:48] Reencoding video [VID_00506]
- [14:49:48] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:48] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:49:48] Processing: VID_00513 (2 of 15)
- [14:49:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00513]
- [14:49:54] Reencoding video [VID_00513]
- [14:49:54] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:54] Processing: VID_00508 (3 of 15)
- [14:49:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00508]
- [14:50:07] Reencoding video [VID_00508]
- [14:50:07] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:07] Processing: VID_00511 (4 of 15)
- [14:50:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00511]
- [14:50:17] Reencoding video [VID_00511]
- [14:50:17] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:17] Processing: VID_00516 (5 of 15)
- [14:50:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00516]
- [14:50:29] Reencoding video [VID_00516]
- [14:50:29] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:29] Processing: VID_00504 (6 of 15)
- [14:50:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00504]
- [14:52:06] Reencoding video [VID_00504]
- [14:52:06] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:52:06] Processing: VID_00518 (7 of 15)
- [14:52:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00518]
- [14:52:15] Reencoding video [VID_00518]
- [14:52:15] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:52:15] Processing: VID_00501 (8 of 15)
- [14:52:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00501]
- [14:52:23] Reencoding video [VID_00501]
- [14:52:23] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:52:23] Processing: VID_00503 (9 of 15)
- [14:52:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00503]
- [14:52:35] Reencoding video [VID_00503]
- [14:52:35] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:52:35] Processing: VID_00507 (10 of 15)
- [14:52:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00507]
- [14:52:42] Reencoding video [VID_00507]
- [14:52:42] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:52:42] Processing: VID_00510 (11 of 15)
- [14:52:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00510]
- [14:53:52] Reencoding video [VID_00510]
- [14:53:52] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:53:52] Processing: VID_00517 (12 of 15)
- [14:53:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00517]
- [14:54:03] Reencoding video [VID_00517]
- [14:54:03] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:54:03] Processing: VID_00509 (13 of 15)
- [14:54:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00509]
- [14:54:14] Reencoding video [VID_00509]
- [14:54:14] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:54:14] Processing: VID_00515 (14 of 15)
- [14:54:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00515]
- [14:54:22] Reencoding video [VID_00515]
- [14:54:22] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:54:22] Processing: VID_00514 (15 of 15)
- [14:54:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00514]
- [15:00:58] Reencoding video [VID_00514]
- [15:00:58] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[15:00:58]PHASE ONE complete
[15:00:58]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:00:58] Rebuilding BD file Structure

[JCKitchens1]

Since version 44.15, I have been experiencing "Not Rersponding" at the top of the window when it reaches 100% of extracting each video. Oddly this occurs when using the faster BD-Rebuilder settings. Even that has exceptions. I used it on one that had 39 parts. One through thirty-six hung on extracting the video, but thirty-seven through thirty-nine went through fine. I noticed they were the three largest videos as well. Thankfully, BD-Rebuilder will restart from where it left off, but this requires babysitting it through all the hangs. I was hoping that 44.17 would fix the problem, but it didn't. After going through two tries, I decided to set it to the slower two pass setting and it workes just fine. Any suggestions on what I can check to eliminate this problem. I don't mind using the slower settings, but using the faster settings would be nice from time to time...

[wakko709]

Since version 44.15, I have been experiencing "Not Rersponding" at the top of the window when it reaches 100% of extracting each video. Oddly this occurs when using the faster BD-Rebuilder settings. Even that has exceptions. I used it on one that had 39 parts. One through thirty-six hung on extracting the video, but thirty-seven through thirty-nine went through fine. I noticed they were the three largest videos as well. Thankfully, BD-Rebuilder will restart from where it left off, but this requires babysitting it through all the hangs. I was hoping that 44.17 would fix the problem, but it didn't. After going through two tries, I decided to set it to the slower two pass setting and it workes just fine. Any suggestions on what I can check to eliminate this problem. I don't mind using the slower settings, but using the faster settings would be nice from time to time...
im just going to suggest something that has worked for me in the past re-install all those things that he told to install on the 1st page of this forum!

[wakko709]

wakko709
Look in your Jar directory for an unusally large folder, possibly like 06000. This might be a form of protection.

thank you very much

[JCKitchens1]

I reinstalled everything, and I used his inspect program to verify all is well. It got "OK" on everything. If 44.14 hadn't expired, I would go back to that and see if it still worked. At least the slower settings work...

[sytyguy]

I believe you could set the system date to the date of that older version and then run it.

[roadhowl]

Using BD Rebuilder v.44.17, I tried encoding Star Trek 1 as a movie-only MKV container 1920*1080 640kbs DD5.1 file. After the extracting A/V streans completes I get a "Stop Statement Encountered" error box and the program terminates.

On a different note, is there any way to get BD Rebuilder to output a MPEG-2 file at a quality and resolution equal to the original Blu-Ray, preferably with burned-in forced subtitles if there are any? I like to load my blu-rays to my server which serves as a movie library watchable on my Tivo.

[jdobbs]

Using BD Rebuilder v.44.17, I tried encoding Star Trek 1 as a movie-only MKV container 1920*1080 640kbs DD5.1 file. After the extracting A/V streans completes I get a "Stop Statement Encountered" error box and the program terminates.

On a different note, is there any way to get BD Rebuilder to output a MPEG-2 file at a quality and resolution equal to the original Blu-Ray, preferably with burned-in forced subtitles if there are any? I like to load my blu-rays to my server which serves as a movie library watchable on my Tivo.Your Tivo doesn't support AVC? I hate to spend time writing code to support MPEG-2 HD output because the quality is much poorer than AVC at a given bitrate.

[jdobbs]

Using BD Rebuilder v.44.17, I tried encoding Star Trek 1 as a movie-only MKV container 1920*1080 640kbs DD5.1 file. After the extracting A/V streans completes I get a "Stop Statement Encountered" error box and the program terminates.

On a different note, is there any way to get BD Rebuilder to output a MPEG-2 file at a quality and resolution equal to the original Blu-Ray, preferably with burned-in forced subtitles if there are any? I like to load my blu-rays to my server which serves as a movie library watchable on my Tivo.Hmmm... that means I must have left some test code in there somewhere. Can you post your log so I can narrow it down?

[Edit] Well, the good news is that I found it. The bad news is that it was encountered because an extracted SUP file was corrupt. It contained a segment code that isn't defined in the BD standard...

[roadhowl]

Your Tivo doesn't support AVC? I hate to spend time writing code to support MPEG-2 HD output because the quality is much poorer than AVC at a given bitrate.
I will check again to see if there is a better way to transfer AVC files to the Tivo. When I've tried transferring AVC in the past, the transfer software transcoded AVC on the fly to Mpeg2. Since the Tivo can play AVC, that seems a waste of resources that also bogs the server down some. It doesn't transcode MPEG-2. Thanks!

[roadhowl]

Hmmm... that means I must have left some test code in there somewhere. Can you post your log so I can narrow it down?

[Edit] Well, the good news is that I found it. The bad news is that it was encountered because an extracted SUP file was corrupt. It contained a segment code that isn't defined in the BD standard...
So, is there a workaround? Or should I just hold my horses for a bit? :)

[jdobbs]

So, is there a workaround? Or should I just hold my horses for a bit? :) I should have a new release out in the next few days. I've added interactive menu support to the Quick-Play Reauthoring, and I need to do some more testing before I post it.

[roadhowl]

I should have a new release out in the next few days. I've added interactive menu support to the Quick-Play Reauthoring, and I need to do some more testing before I post it.

Thanks very much!

[AmigaFuture]

I should have a new release out in the next few days. I've added interactive menu support to the Quick-Play Reauthoring, and I need to do some more testing before I post it.

Excellent! I just tried that feature recently. Very cool about interactive rather than only a list that gets displayed. Yes, I know...evolution of BD-RB. Hehe!

[AmigaFuture]

Your Tivo doesn't support AVC? I hate to spend time writing code to support MPEG-2 HD output because the quality is much poorer than AVC at a given bitrate.

TiVo Desktop doesn't support streaming ("Transcoding") without buying the "Plus" part of the Desktop program. There are other ways, probably but since I use my LG player and external USB Hard Drives with TV & LG player, I haven't investigated further into streaming to TiVo HD.
If you have edited MPG shows on the hard drive (VideoReDo/TVSuite), yes, TiVo Desktop (without "Plus") will transfer them.

@ roadhowl

May I currently suggest converting the MKV's to MPG via VLC? If you change the default MPEG-2 settings you could set it to keep the, if you've kept them, original AC-3. Subtitles are also possible. Use MKVExtract. It does do "Burn In" it looks like. I haven't used that part of VLC, so...

[colinhunt]

I should have a new release out in the next few days. I've added interactive menu support to the Quick-Play Reauthoring, and I need to do some more testing before I post it.
Looking forward to this, as I've had nothing but problems with Quick-Play. It's amazing, really: 4 different PCs, all running Windows 7 64-bit, all using only the approved software from post 1, and none of them have ever managed to create a proper Quick-Play backup. Boggles the mind.

[jdobbs]

Looking forward to this, as I've had nothing but problems with Quick-Play. It's amazing, really: 4 different PCs, all running Windows 7 64-bit, all using only the approved software from post 1, and none of them have ever managed to create a proper Quick-Play backup. Boggles the mind.What kind of problems are you having? The operating structure of a Quick-Play disc is really pretty simple. There's not much that can go wrong.Excellent! I just tried that feature recently. Very cool about interactive rather than only a list that gets displayed. Yes, I know...evolution of BD-RB. Hehe!I've also updated the scanning algorithms to more accurately prevent repeats (playlists that have almost the same set of components). Quick-Play really comes in handy when combining DVD or BD series discs into one BD-25/50. I created it specifically for my own use in doing that.

[colinhunt]

What kind of problems are you having? The operating structure of a Quick-Play disc is really pretty simple. There's not much that can go wrong.
It never ever creates/copies the menu. A few times the resulting backup has played despite the error, but without menus, like a movie-only backup. I wonder if it's something in my set-up, a rare combination of ticked boxes etc. that causes it.

[jdobbs]

It never ever creates/copies the menu. A few times the resulting backup has played despite the error, but without menus, like a movie-only backup. I wonder if it's something in my set-up, a rare combination of ticked boxes etc. that causes it.Typically it will start and play without the popup pseudo-menu. You get to that by pushing the MENU button on the remote. If there is only one title that meets the minimum-playlist-length criteria, then it will work the same as a movie-only backup. There's no need for a menu when there is only one item.

In the next release it will do the same unless there are several titles -- in that case it will go to the menu at startup.

[AmigaFuture]

I've also updated the scanning algorithms to more accurately prevent repeats (playlists that have almost the same set of components). Quick-Play really comes in handy when combining DVD or BD series discs into one BD-25/50. I created it specifically for my own use in doing that.

I recall you sharing that bit of info before. Still, it's pretty sweet to know you're updating it to be more interactive. By interactive I'm thinking you mean, press the MENU button and now you're able to select which in the list to view?
I've also noticed the repeats, I'm pleased to test that when released.

[AmigaFuture]

Thanks very much!

I've tested with VLC 2.0.8 and I'm unable to have it convert an MKV BD-RB created to MPEG-2 that my TiVo HD will accept for transfer and play. I've tried different settings, and...nada... Transfer fails. I'm using TiVo Desktop 2.8.3 with the "hack" from the TiVo Forum to make the software transfer files correctly. However, I am using my TVSuite V4 (VideoReDo) to produce an MPG with 1080 and AC-3 but Closed Captioning (SRT) and SUP (Blu-ray Subtitles) are not retained. It doesn't provide a Burn-In option that I can find, where as VLC would. Yet, it does play through my TiVo after rerender and listed within the TiVo Video Share for the Desktop program; not using Plus.

PM me if you wan to talk more...as I want to keep On Topic here. I write the above in hopes it'll help someone else. I'm going to check some other programs to see if something will keep SRT as Closed Captions. It's been a fun experience.

[DoctorM]

I've noticed that since installing the older/recommended version of Haali has caused my playback of mp4 files to be out of sync.

I'm letting my player act as splitter in the mean time to fix this, but are there plans to let BDRB use a more recent version of Haali?

[jdobbs]

I recall you sharing that bit of info before. Still, it's pretty sweet to know you're updating it to be more interactive. By interactive I'm thinking you mean, press the MENU button and now you're able to select which in the list to view?Exactly.

[jdobbs]

I've noticed that since installing the older/recommended version of Haali has caused my playback of mp4 files to be out of sync.

I'm letting my player act as splitter in the mean time to fix this, but are there plans to let BDRB use a more recent version of Haali? I use the older one and have never had an issue with sync... I suspect your problem is elsewhere. With that said, I'll do some testing of the newer version to see if it is alright for use.

[roadhowl]

I've tested with VLC 2.0.8 and I'm unable to have it convert an MKV BD-RB created to MPEG-2 that my TiVo HD will accept for transfer and play. I've tried different settings, and...nada... Transfer fails. I'm using TiVo Desktop 2.8.3 with the "hack" from the TiVo Forum to make the software transfer files correctly. However, I am using my TVSuite V4 (VideoReDo) to produce an MPG with 1080 and AC-3 but Closed Captioning (SRT) and SUP (Blu-ray Subtitles) are not retained. It doesn't provide a Burn-In option that I can find, where as VLC would. Yet, it does play through my TiVo after rerender and listed within the TiVo Video Share for the Desktop program; not using Plus.

PM me if you wan to talk more...as I want to keep On Topic here. I write the above in hopes it'll help someone else. I'm going to check some other programs to see if something will keep SRT as Closed Captions. It's been a fun experience.

Yeah, I've been doing a similar process in the past. The reason I asked about MPEG2 from BD Rebuilder is that there is a MKV setting that already does part of what I need; convert the Blu-Ray to AC3 and burn in forced subs. But then I have to process the whole file again to go from MKV to MPEG2 using something like VideoRedo. If BD Rebuilder output MPEG2, it would be a perfect one-shot tool for me.

[g00g]

Hello,

when setup the audio and subtitle streams via the bd gui (by clicking on a stream) and then add this job to the batch queue, these settings are only recognized for the video file where the settings have been made.
Example: 1. Under Setup choose the language English for audio and subtitle.
2. Under BD GUI unset English und set for example Spanish instead.
3. Add this setting to batch queue
4. Compare the options for the audio und subtitle settings in the bdbatch.ini file (option AUDIO=... and SUBS=... )

Of course you could only see this effect, if the whole video consists of multiple video files not just one.

Is this a feature or a bug?

[g00g]

Hello,

when importing a dvd in sd format, set convert to hd 720p under setup and choose the size of an alternate mp4 output, the output seems not to be calculated correctly.

In my case an output size of 1713 MB was chosen and the alternate output had a size of about 1048 MB.

[gonca]

g00g
Where did you choose 720p, Settings>Setup or Alternate Movie Only?

Settings>Setup are general settings. The Stream tab changes you make are on a per job basis.

[jdobbs]

Hello,

when importing a dvd in sd format, set convert to hd 720p under setup and choose the size of an alternate mp4 output, the output seems not to be calculated correctly.

In my case an output size of 1713 MB was chosen and the alternate output had a size of about 1048 MB.The SETUP screen's "convert to HD 720p" only applies to BD output. The size of ALTERNATE is determined by the preset you've chosen.

[jdobbs]

Hello,

when setup the audio and subtitle streams via the bd gui (by clicking on a stream) and then add this job to the batch queue, these settings are only recognized for the video file where the settings have been made.
Example: 1. Under Setup choose the language English for audio and subtitle.
2. Under BD GUI unset English und set for example Spanish instead.
3. Add this setting to batch queue
4. Compare the options for the audio und subtitle settings in the bdbatch.ini file (option AUDIO=... and SUBS=... )

Of course you could only see this effect, if the whole video consists of multiple video files not just one.

Is this a feature or a bug?It SHOULD only apply to the job where the settings were made. Settings only apply to jobs from that point until they are changed again -- you don't want previously added Batch jobs to be changed.

[g00g]

The SETUP screen's "convert to HD 720p" only applies to BD output. The size of ALTERNATE is determined by the preset you've chosen.

If the size 1280*720 of ALTERNATE is chosen by an input of a SD DVD input, i got the following error: PopUp Window, which tells me that the h.264 encoder has a problem.

If I set "convert to HD 720p" this error does not appear.

Do I need to use another setup for upscaling von SD to HD in ALTERNATE menu?

[g00g]

It SHOULD only apply to the job where the settings were made. Settings only apply to jobs from that point until they are changed again -- you don't want previously added Batch jobs to be changed.

I don't want to change previously added batch jobs.
If you look on the bd gui stream tab while a video is loaded in Movie Only mode and if the video consists of multiple video files (VIDs), then the settings you can manually change are just for one VID file. If the general settings under Setup differ from your manual setup in the bd gui stream tab and you choose "add current project to batch queue", the entries AUDIO and SUBS contains the settings for each VID file of the video. But the manuall setting in the bd gui stream tab is only recognized for the VID file which is visible in the bg gui stream tab.

Sorry, if I can not explain this more precisiously.

[LowDead]

I use the older one and have never had an issue with sync... I suspect your problem is elsewhere. With that said, I'll do some testing of the newer version to see if it is alright for use.

I'm using the newer Haali 20130623 version (just to be able to go 64-bit in AVCHDcoder). And it works 99% of the time for me. Very rarely I get an error and the encode stops. I just fire it up again and it continues. With the recomennded version I have 100% successrate. So the new version isn't completely stable with BD-RB. Atleast for me.

//LD

[gonca]

g00g

If you are talking about Movie-only and seamless branching, the audio and subtitles you see in the one VID affects all the other VIDs. In other words, X out an audio stream in that one VID and it is automatically Xed out for all the VIDs

[soneca]

I'm using the newer Haali 20130623 version (just to be able to go 64-bit in AVCHDcoder). And it works 99% of the time for me. Very rarely I get an error and the encode stops. I just fire it up again and it continues. With the recomennded version I have 100% successrate. So the new version isn't completely stable with BD-RB. Atleast for me.

//LD

I have used this version a couple of months without problems. But the official tester is jdobbs.:D

[MalibuDave42]

I am glad someone brought up forced subtitles again. I am just plain confused how these work. Using Win7 MCE to play movies, my forced subtitles are hit and miss, mostly miss. When the movie gets run through BDRebuilder, I use movie only, keep only the English sound track and include all of the subtitle versions. The movie plays in VLC with the English subtitles always on. Is there a setting I am missing in BDR and or MCE?

[Lathe]

I am glad someone brought up forced subtitles again. I am just plain confused how these work. Using Win7 MCE to play movies, my forced subtitles are hit and miss, mostly miss. When the movie gets run through BDRebuilder, I use movie only, keep only the English sound track and include all of the subtitle versions. The movie plays in VLC with the English subtitles always on. Is there a setting I am missing in BDR and or MCE?

I believe that with VLC you merely right-click the screen and de-select 'Subtitles' which I THINK is usually selected by default. You absolutely should be able to turn the subs off by doing that or perhaps set it that way to stay in the 'Preferences'.

[AmigaFuture]

@ Lathe

Subtitles aren't always displayed automatically by VLC. VLC checks the flag within the MKV container and displays them accordingly. :-) If it's outside MKV it might display automatically.

[Lathe]

@ Lathe

Subtitles aren't always displayed automatically by VLC. VLC checks the flag within the MKV container and displays them accordingly. :-) If it's MKV...and if it's inside the MKV.

Ah, I didn't know that; thank you kindly for telling me.

That's what I get for trying to swim with the Big Boys!... :o

[AmigaFuture]

@ Lathe

There isn't any such thing as a dumb or stupid question. Arrogance will often suggest differently. Annoying, as in highly repetitive and non-learning/evolving questions...perhaps. Enjoy the water...I might even PUSH you IN! HA HA HA!!! You're welcome to do the same with me! HA! :)

[dentnu]

Hi first off I would like to say thank you for making this program its awesome. I would like to know if there are any plan in the future to have the option to use the gpu to encode instead of using the cpu ? I am sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but I think it would make the encoding process so much faster.

[roadhowl]

I've had a strange error. I used BD Rebuilder 44.17 to process the Blu-ray of Star Trek Generations into a 1920x1080 MKV file with 640kbs AC3. It seemed to work ok and the file seemed the correct length, but the processed video in the MKV file essentially "froze" on a particular frame and never changed that frame for the rest of the movie length. The sound seemed to process correctly.

[omegaman7]

I've had a strange error. I used BD Rebuilder 44.17 to process the Blu-ray of Star Trek Generations into a 1920x1080 MKV file with 640kbs AC3. It seemed to work ok and the file seemed the correct length, but the processed video in the MKV file essentially "froze" on a particular frame and never changed that frame for the rest of the movie length. The sound seemed to process correctly.

Bad rip probably. I've had trouble like that before. One of my optical drives ignored a read error. Ripped it with a different drive, and voila! You may not notice a problem with the ripped files either. The applications however do notice it.

[laserfan]

BD-RB in Edit mode, with English checked under "Audio Langs to Keep" under Setup: In the Feature, de-select any of the "extra" English audiotracks, then Save as Project. Quit BD-RB. Launch BD-RB again and the Open Project i.e. the .epr you just saved. The audio track deselected before is selected again.

This same issue exists for the Subtitles i.e. de-select a sub and save the project, reload the project and the sub is selected again.

[jdobbs]

BD-RB in Edit mode, with English checked under "Audio Langs to Keep" under Setup: In the Feature, de-select any of the "extra" English audiotracks, then Save as Project. Quit BD-RB. Launch BD-RB again and the Open Project i.e. the .epr you just saved. The audio track deselected before is selected again.

This same issue exists for the Subtitles i.e. de-select a sub and save the project, reload the project and the sub is selected again. The unchecked items are transient.

[laserfan]

The unchecked items are transient.
Hmm you mean we can't use Projects in Edit mode then? Not now, not ever?

[jdobbs]

Hmm you mean we can't use Projects in Edit mode then? Not now, not ever?I'll look at it.

[laserfan]

If it can't be done for some technical reason, maybe it would help the next guy to (simply?) grey-out the Save Project menu item when "Movie & Menus (Auto-blank Extras)" is checked (though I guess the worst that can happen is that extra audiotracks would reduce the bits available for other stuff).

[jdobbs]

If it can't be done for some technical reason, maybe it would help the next guy to (simply?) grey-out the Save Project menu item when "Movie & Menus (Auto-blank Extras)" is checked (though I guess the worst that can happen is that extra audiotracks would reduce the bits available for other stuff).I'm confused. I though you were talking about audio/subtitle selections that were being unchecked...

[MalibuDave42]

Sorry for the lack of clarity on my part.. I prefer to use MCE to organize and play the movies. Sometimes the forced subtitles show up.. more often they do not show up. Is there a setting in MCE or BDR I should using? e.g District 9, no subtitles. Pretty hard to watch without them. I re-ripped it, tried different RBD settings, I know jdobbs uses this as a test movie... I am doing something wrong. Any insights how to get forced subtitles to show up every time they are used in every movie?