BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[punisher12]

Well, you didn't indicate what version of tsmuxer you are using with BDRB. As a personal rule with me, I don't just keep updating stuff to be updating. I keep 2 copies of BDRB with 2 different versions of tsmuxer. Copy #1 is 1.8.35(b) which has been working perfectly with HD audio and I work with copy # 2 that has the newest version. That way if ever I run into an issue, I don't have to scratch my head wondering, I just go back to my baseline with copy #1 to rule out the newer tsmuxer.

When I ran into an issue like yours, I was short disk space so as a general rule make sure you have atleast 45-50GB of FREE space before running BDRB. Also, I would suggest going back to one of the previous versions of txmuxer.

One other thing, rarely do you need an older copy of BDRB, the problem usually lies somewhere else.

thats great, got more than enough H/D space, the old bd rebuilder comes up with beta expired need to update version for me, if i could get the old one back i would be more than happy as I have completed 30 + copies without one coaster.

[Furiousflea]

thats great, got more than enough H/D space, the old bd rebuilder comes up with beta expired need to update version for me, if i could get the old one back i would be more than happy as I have completed 30 + copies without one coaster.

Use that thing inside your head you were borne with.

You know how to change the date and time in windows....right?

DO NOT REPORT ANY BUGS YOU GET WITH THE OLD VERSION. YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN IF YOU USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE LATEST VERSION.

[punisher12]

Use that thing inside your head you were borne with.

You know how to change the date and time in windows....right?

DO NOT REPORT ANY BUGS YOU GET WITH THE OLD VERSION. YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN IF YOU USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE LATEST VERSION.

I WAS REPORTING A BUG WITH THE LATEST VERSION, GENIUS

AND WANTED THE PREVIOUS BETA RELEASE TO CONTINUE COPYING WHILST THE PROBLEM
THAT I AND SEVERAL OTHERS HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH THE LATEST RELEASE.

:eek:

[Furiousflea]

I WAS REPORTING A BUG WITH THE LATEST VERSION, GENIUS

AND WANTED THE PREVIOUS BETA RELEASE TO CONTINUE COPYING WHILST THE PROBLEM
THAT I AND SEVERAL OTHERS HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH THE LATEST RELEASE.

:eek:

I know ;)

jdobbs has expressed his view that no support should be given whatsoever on old versions. I was saying this pre-emptively so if you have a problem with it. Don't expect any help, his reasoning for this is because the problem you potentially could have using old versions could have been fixed in newer versions.

The primary concern with this thread is to fix bugs for an eventually proper non beta release. Not to help people make and enjoy working backups. I have done the same thing as you in the past and was told to not expect any help with old releases. I was just echoing that sentiment before you post again with a problem with an old version. This is not being critical, rude or heavy handed. Just posting for you information.

All the old releases are available at http://www.videohelp.com

Do a seach for "bd-rebuilder".

There are some serious bugs in older versions, especially the last couple before 0.20.05 (current latest as of this post). One of which will prevent backups of discs where you have selected to keep HD audio altogether.

It is fairly obvious the first port of call in the event of any "....expired" message would be to change your system clock back. The reason jdobbs has gone to the lengths to impose the expired message is because he really doesn't want people using old versions.

Anyway, good luck to you and hope it works out with the older version. :)

[punisher12]

I know ;)

jdobbs has expressed his view that no support should be given whatsoever on old versions. I was saying this pre-emptively so if you have a problem with it. Don't expect any help, his reasoning for this is because the problem you potentially could have using old versions could have been fixed in newer versions.

The primary concern with this thread is to fix bugs for an eventually proper non beta release. Not to help people make and enjoy working backups. I have done the same thing as you in the past and was told to not expect any help with old releases. I was just echoing that sentiment before you post again with a problem with an old version. This is not being critical, rude or heavy handed. Just posting for you information.

All the old releases are available at http://www.videohelp.com

Do a seach for "bd-rebuilder".

There are some serious bugs in older versions, especially the last couple before 0.20.05 (current latest as of this post). One of which will prevent backups of discs where you have selected to keep HD audio altogether.

It is fairly obvious the first port of call in the event of any "....expired" message would be to change your system clock back. The reason jdobbs has gone to the lengths to impose the expired message is because he really doesn't want people using old versions.

Anyway, good luck to you and hope it works out with the older version. :)


Thanks m8ty, changed the time and the older version worked straight away, when i have time i can work at fixing the latest version to work for me as something has changed that my setup didnt like.

only another 30 to go!! so prob. a months worth of work!! LOL!!

[MikeyBK]

LOL FuriousFlea, you get no love for being the BD-RB support intern here huh???.. :p:)

I've not had any issues with all the latest releases of BD-RB. All to BD-9 without worrying about HD audio of course. All BD-9s play incredibly crisp on my 42" 1080p HDTV, 'AND' the AC3 sound is 'thunderous' to say the least... ;)
Gotta be around 50 Blurays backed-up by now.

I have only appreciation and thanks to JDobbs for this great program.........

[GaPony]

Same here... 20.05 has worked very well when working with BD9 and BD25 discs.

Only 50 movies??? Rookie! ;)

[turbojet]

Someone mentioed using tsmuxer 1.8.30b was a good combination to retain HD audio correctly and no picture problems on some player.

I tried this version and I got problems just getting my SAP Sony BDP-S550 (which is the most compatible player series available) to recognise the disc. Won't even load it, showing an error message on my LCD display.


I'm using 1.8.35b with ZERO problems and I'd recommend to at least try that.

I think 1.9.7 will clear up a lot of problems but I tried that too with no success but I think this is because it has couple of very big changes that need new switches from BDRB to select the right output type (bluray\avchd).

That's very odd as 1.8.30 uses the same basic output except for the fixed TrueHD that 1.8.18 that comes with BD-RB uses.

1.8.35 was the first version of the major change to bluray output and it has some not working reports as a standalone app and a few days later a 'fixed' 1.9.1 version came out.

[Furiousflea]

That's very odd as 1.8.30 uses the same basic output except for the fixed TrueHD that 1.8.18 that comes with BD-RB uses.

1.8.35 was the first version of the major change to bluray output and it has some not working reports as a standalone app and a few days later a 'fixed' 1.9.1 version came out.

I don't know what to say to that then :confused:

Don't really want to go back and try again just in case it doesn't work. I can't be sure of course than the backups I'm making will work on all SAPs like the PS3 for example.

Just reporting my findings with my BDP-S550. Could have been a strange couple of discs, who knows. I do know that BDRB reported no errors however.

Make of it what you will :)

[unixman2]

[17:22:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:22:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00136]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[17:22:31] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted



Hey punisher, are you still having this problem? I have two more ideas. If you haven't already, pick a previous movie that is similar (same video and audio type) to the one you're having problem with that has worked to see if that movie has an issue. If it fails also then you know something has changed on your computer and for a longshot, boot to safe mode and run BDRB on the movie again to see if you get the same results.


Update: I ran into ths issue again with another movie today, it's AVP 2 for Blu-ray with DTS HD MA while using BDRB2005 with tsmuxer _1.9.9(b) to BD-25. I found a workabound for my problem by running the same movie files through tsMuxeRGUI_1.9.9 (confirimed version) and I extracte only the HD video file and the DTS-HD audio file output to Blu-ray disk files. Then I used the same copy of BDRB again, which failed previously using the same ver./copy of tsmuxer copy) and this time BDRB was able to do it's thing. (I'll let the experts speculate as where the problem might be)

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi!

I have again problems with a Universal disc: Bourne Identity (EUR).

Full Copy to BD25.

Regardless to what I do in BD-RB, the movie does not start when I choose Play movie in the menu.

The time index stays at 00:00 and the screen stays black.

I also tried to set the MIN_M2TS_SIZE=2000. In this case, only the main movie was encoded, all the extras were only copied from the disc. Also no effect, problem stays the same.

Bye

[Bundy00]

Hi there,

I have a problem with this constellation:

I've re-encoded Hellboy2 (full to BD25) without any errors with latest Rebuilder version, latest TsMuxeR version.
(I get around the problem with VC1 interlaced by using the INI para MIN_M2TS_SIZE=460).

When I try to play it with my Pana BD35 (Firmware 1.4) I get the Universal trailer and then the main menu.

If I choose the language (no matter if german or english) nothing happens and player just stops. (It really shows STOP in the panel display).

Some days ago I did a full rebuild of Quantum of Solace.
Here I ran into the Pana 24p issue - plays fine with 24p disabled but only sound with 24p enabled. (During rebuild I had an older TsMuxeR in place).

But why is Hellboy2 just stopping in the main menu??

Any idea?

Have a nice day!

[tekmobile]

Ive got Full Metal Jacket (Deluxe Version) here that im wanting to do but the full disc is only 1.5GB over the BD25 limit by just removing the LPCM track and leaving just the DD5.1 it will easily fit on a BD25 without any re encoding.

My question is it possible for BD-RB to do this just yet because its wanting to reencode the video when its simply not required

I tried to do it manually by remapping the audio tracks in the mpls, updating the clpi etc and it did play but the IN, OUT and chapter marks in the mpls were wrong because I dont know what values to use with the modified m2ts

[unixman2]

Ive got Full Metal Jacket (Deluxe Version) here that im wanting to do but the full disc is only 1.5GB over the BD25 limit by just removing the LPCM track and leaving just the DD5.1 it will easily fit on a BD25 without any re encoding.

My question is it possible for BD-RB to do this just yet because its wanting to reencode the video when its simply not required

I tried to do it manually by remapping the audio tracks in the mpls, updating the clpi etc and it did play but the IN, OUT and chapter marks in the mpls were wrong because I dont know what values to use with the modified m2ts

I think txMuxeRGUI should handle that. You should be able to load in all of the files for a full movie, then just remove some of the unwanted audio tracks and output to Blu-ray disk.

[pfreak]

i become every time the same failure

The Blu Ray is "Tiesto - elements of Life"

http://www.pic-upload.de/view-1893362/tiesto.jpg.html

[tekmobile]

I think txMuxeRGUI should handle that. You should be able to load in all of the files for a full movie, then just remove some of the unwanted audio tracks and output to Blu-ray disk.

Yes TsMuxer can do this but im wanting to keep the full disc and not movie only

[turbojet]

tekmobile: have you tried something like I explained here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274432#post1274432)?
Someone else came up with this hack a few months ago and described it better but I can't find it. But indeed it would be nice if BD-Rebuilder could handle this without encoding the video or even an external app that could blank/replace/strip streams.

jdobbs: I think the stream removal isn't quite right in full backup mode. Seems powerDVD and possibly some standalones can see and select the streams. I have a feeling it because the mpls files aren't updated. I've uploaded bd-rb and 'corrected' clpi and mpls files (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?kyijiwdjww4) if you could take a look it would be much appreciated. Also BDSup2Sub integration for 720p subs or bd-rb resizing properly would be a nice bug fix.

[tekmobile]

tekmobile: have you tried something like I explained here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274432#post1274432)?
Someone else came up with this hack a few months ago and described it better but I can't find it. But indeed it would be nice if BD-Rebuilder could handle this without encoding the video or even an external app that could blank/replace/strip streams.

jdobbs: I think the stream removal isn't quite right in full backup mode. Seems powerDVD and possibly some standalones can see and select the streams. I have a feeling it because the mpls files aren't updated. I've uploaded bd-rb and 'corrected' clpi and mpls files (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?kyijiwdjww4) if you could take a look it would be much appreciated. Also BDSup2Sub integration for 720p subs or bd-rb resizing properly would be a nice bug fix.

In theory that will work but the only problem is the mpls is missing audiotracks that the menu is referencing

I edited the orig playlist and just re mapped the missing LPCM audio track to kept DD and also had to remap all the tracks following because they didnt match the ones in the clpi I might try taking the IN, OUT and Chapter marks from the mpls that TsMuxer outputted unless I can add the missing menu referenced tracks to the mpls

[turbojet]

LPCM is the first audio track?

If so I can understand the issue of audio tracks getting out of order with the menu buttons/commands.

It would really be nice if an app that blanks/strips/replaces/command editor through menu button navigation and also could blank other titles not called by the menu existed for BD but I don't know if anyone with knowledge would be up to the task.

[tekmobile]

Audio mapping bug
The audio streams in the mpls don't match the ones in the clpi (see images) also the eng/spa subs are mixed up

Audio/Subs (order in RB files)
CLPI
PID1100 Eng DTSHD - correct
PID1101 Eng DD - correct
PID1102 Eng DD - correct
PID1103 Fra DD - correct
PID1200 Eng Sub - correct
PID1201 Fra Sub - correct
PID1202 Spa Sub - correct
MPLS
PID1100 Eng DTSHD - correct
PID1101 Fra DD - wrong - ends up as english commentry track (1102)
PID1102 Eng DD - wrong - ends up as english commentry track (1103)
PID1103 Eng DD - wrong - ends up as Fra track
PID1200 Eng Sub - correct
PID1201 Spa Sub - wrong - ends up as Fra subs
PID1202 Fra Sub - wrong - ends up as hard of hearing subs

Audio/Subs (order in orig files)
CLPI
PID1100 Eng DTSHD
PID1101 Eng DD
PID1102 Eng DD
PID1200 Eng Sub
PID1201 Fra Sub
PID1202 Spa Sub (Really Eng Hard Hearing subs)
PID1103 Fra DD
MPLS
PID1100 Eng DTSHD
PID1103 Fra DD
PID1101 Eng DD
PID1102 Eng DD
PID1200 Eng Sub
PID1202 Spa Sub (Really Eng Hard Hearing subs)
PID1201 Fra Sub

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3534/clpi.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5253/mpls.jpg

[liquidskin76]

Audio mapping bug
The audio streams in the mpls don't match the ones in the clpi (see images) also the eng/spa subs are mixed up

Audio/Subs (order in RB files)
CLPI
PID1100 Eng DTSHD - correct
PID1101 Eng DD - correct
PID1102 Eng DD - correct
PID1103 Fra DD - correct
PID1200 Eng Sub - correct
PID1201 Fra Sub - correct
PID1202 Spa Sub - correct
MPLS
PID1100 Eng DTSHD - correct
PID1101 Fra DD - wrong - ends up as english commentry track (1102)
PID1102 Eng DD - wrong - ends up as english commentry track (1103)
PID1103 Eng DD - wrong - ends up as Fra track
PID1200 Eng Sub - correct
PID1201 Spa Sub - wrong - ends up as Fra subs
PID1202 Fra Sub - wrong - ends up as hard of hearing subs

Audio/Subs (order in orig files)
CLPI
PID1100 Eng DTSHD
PID1101 Eng DD
PID1102 Eng DD
PID1200 Eng Sub
PID1201 Fra Sub
PID1202 Spa Sub (Really Eng Hard Hearing subs)
PID1103 Fra DD
MPLS
PID1100 Eng DTSHD
PID1103 Fra DD
PID1101 Eng DD
PID1102 Eng DD
PID1200 Eng Sub
PID1202 Spa Sub (Really Eng Hard Hearing subs)
PID1201 Fra Sub

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3534/clpi.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5253/mpls.jpg

I'm seeing similar results with '300' (UK version), full backup to BD25, retaining original Dolby TrueHD audio. BD-RB is set to retain only English audio tracks.

The audio isn't matching the choices on the disc's pop-up menu. First option is standard 5.1 Dolby, however TrueHD plays. Second option is TrueHD, however standard 5.1 Dolby plays.

[Furiousflea]

I'm seeing similar results with '300' (UK version), full backup to BD25, retaining original Dolby TrueHD audio. BD-RB is set to retain only English audio tracks.

The audio isn't matching the choices on the disc's pop-up menu. First option is standard 5.1 Dolby, however TrueHD plays. Second option is TrueHD, however standard 5.1 Dolby plays.

I reported the exact same thing a week or so ago.

It seems this discs has a PIP track...

However I got my jap import of Sin City backed up yesterday too and that also has swapped audio streams (plays with commentry to begin with) have to select commentry to get it to play the TrueHD track. All tracks are selectable but they are all mapped incorrectly.

However Sin City doesn't have a PIP track.

I can confirm that on all the discs I do, I can still select all the audio tracks...

Tekmobile...are you saying this shouldn't be the case

[tekmobile]

I reported the exact same thing a week or so ago.

It seems this discs has a PIP track...

However I got my jap import of Sin City backed up yesterday too and that also has swapped audio streams (plays with commentry to begin with) have to select commentry to get it to play the TrueHD track. All tracks are selectable but they are all mapped incorrectly.

However Sin City doesn't have a PIP track.

I can confirm that on all the discs I do, I can still select all the audio tracks...

Tekmobile...are you saying this shouldn't be the case

I can select all the audio tracks and they all play but apart from the 1st one all the rest are incorrectly mapped

Its fixable using BDedit by changing the PIDs in the MPLS to match the correct streams in the CLPI file

This seems to happen when the PIDs in the MPLS are not in the same sequence with the ones in the CLPI because BD-RB always writes them in sequence (PiP tracks are usually at the end but after TsMuxer has remuxed the streams it places them to the top throwing out the correct sequence)

[tekmobile]

Ive got Full Metal Jacket (Deluxe Version) here that im wanting to do but the full disc is only 1.5GB over the BD25 limit by just removing the LPCM track and leaving just the DD5.1 it will easily fit on a BD25 without any re encoding.

My question is it possible for BD-RB to do this just yet because its wanting to reencode the video when its simply not required

I tried to do it manually by remapping the audio tracks in the mpls, updating the clpi etc and it did play but the IN, OUT and chapter marks in the mpls were wrong because I dont know what values to use with the modified m2ts

Sorted this out now using TsMuxer and a HexEditor (might seem weird but works perfect)

I demuxed the english AC3 track then built a blu-ray structure from the movie using the movie MPLS and keeping the orig chapter times replacing the orig LPCM with the demuxed AC3 so there are 2 copies if this track (I had plenty of free space) giving the correct number of Audio tracks as the orig, I then checked and corrected any mapping issues on the output with BD edit renamed the M2TS/CLPI to match the orig and used a HexEditor on the MPLS to correct the M2TS then
copied the modded files back to the orig structure.

[liquidskin76]

I reported the exact same thing a week or so ago.

It seems this discs has a PIP track...

I've just checked and it appears that the UK version of '300' doesn't have a PIP track.

[Furiousflea]

I've just checked and it appears that the UK version of '300' doesn't have a PIP track.

Just checked again, you are right :p

[DIVX2009]

Fail recode Bourne Ultimatum vc1...
vc1 is not compatible whit bd rebuilder???

[tekmobile]

Fail recode Bourne Ultimatum vc1...
vc1 is not compatible whit bd rebuilder???

Yes VC-1 is compatable with BD-RB

Was this on the main movie or extra's and have you had any success with other codecs

[DIVX2009]

main movie and full disc

[tekmobile]

main movie and full disc

Have you have previous success before with other codecs or was this your first encode

[DIVX2009]

many blu ray but avc or h264 ...not vc1

[DaMacFunkin]

Madagascar Escape 2 Africa doesn't work, all the extras work fine but any attempt to start film or select scene results in disk hanging... am i right in saying that dreamworks are essentially Universal? and if so it seems a couple of versions down the line, and various upgrades to tsmuxer this problem with Universal titles still exists, it is the same problem all the time. Has anybody heard anything anywhere as to what the problem could be???
Thanks.

[tekmobile]

many blu ray but avc or h264 ...not vc1

What do you have VC-1 set to under FFDshow's settings

[Furiousflea]

Madagascar Escape 2 Africa doesn't work, all the extras work fine but any attempt to start film or select scene results in disk hanging... am i right in saying that dreamworks are essentially Universal? and if so it seems a couple of versions down the line, and various upgrades to tsmuxer this problem with Universal titles still exists, it is the same problem all the time. Has anybody heard anything anywhere as to what the problem could be???
Thanks.

I've had success and no problems with the dreamworks discs I've done on my Sony S550. Can't remember specific discs but remember the annoying sleazy hollywoodesque cloudy dreamworks logo with some dude fishing sitting on a letter that makes me wanna spew (with annoying music) and wish that america...no sorry I don't mean that...lets just say steven spielberg...didn't exist as far as film is concerned. :)

[jdobbs]

1. Just getting back online after some intense travel etc. Can someone who has kept up summarize the top 5 or so bugs that need to be fixed? This thread is becoming really tough to follow and I'd kinda' like to see what I can do this weekend.

2. Is the newer version of TSMUXER (1.9.8?) working with BD Rebuilder? Any new bugs introduced that are something I need to worry about or adjust for?

Thanks.

[Furiousflea]

1. Just getting back online after some intense travel etc. Can someone who has kept up summarize the top 5 or so bugs that need to be fixed? This thread is becoming really tough to follow and I'd kinda' like to see what I can do this weekend.

2. Is the newer version of TSMUXER (1.9.8?) working with BD Rebuilder? Any new bugs introduced that are something I need to worry about or adjust for?

Thanks.



1. Latest tsmuxer is 1.9.9 and it isn't a beta. I would release BDRB with that. It has corrected all audio bugs (including the bug that introduced not passing through DTSHD (not MA) correctly at around version 1.8.35. I'm sure you're aware it has different modes (bluray for burning to BD-R, and AVCHD for burning to DVD media). I believe the old versions of tsmuxer were always using AVCHD mode with parts of bluray mode...ala. Go check the thread in HD DVD\Bluray authoring forum...




2. Seems to be a bug where enabled streams are getting swapped for due to BDRB expecting all streams to be in numerical order and so a mismatch is made between the mpls and the clipi files....something like that (have a 1-2 pages back) reported by tekmobile\turbojet. They seem to think it would be easy to correct.


(2. + 3. Kinda related)

3. Encoding of secondary video track, not sure if you want to add encoding of this in yet, but you might want to add some workaround by just adding it without encoding. Since it is causing problems with streams getting incorrectly mapped. For example, the commentry tracks encoded with DTS Express have the audio embedded in this track...Might be easier just to demux, the track then remux it...Not sure if tsmuxer can handle these tracks correctly though. I know eac3to CAN.

I can select all the audio tracks and they all play but apart from the 1st one all the rest are incorrectly mapped

Its fixable using BDedit by changing the PIDs in the MPLS to match the correct streams in the CLPI file

This seems to happen when the PIDs in the MPLS are not in the same sequence with the ones in the CLPI because BD-RB always writes them in sequence (PiP tracks are usually at the end but after TsMuxer has remuxed the streams it places them to the top throwing out the correct sequence)




4. LPCM still isn't being handled correctly. It seems that tsmuxer outputs the LPCM in 4GB chunks of audio, using this audio as a source to mux back seems to be problematic for tsmuxer. Someone has created a utility that adds the nessacary header information for the LPCM to be treated in the as a wav file...Someone in the HD DVD\Bluray athoring forum...can't remember who but it was in their sig, and I linked to the thread a couple of pages back (maybe 3-4 though).

Edit - here's the program that helps with this....
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138417&highlight=lpcm
Pcm2Tsmu .....(I think at least)



5. Rebuilding - Without re-encoding, so we can just remove some foreign audio streams and rebuild without re-encoding for discs that are slightly over a BD25. Apparently, this is again quite easy, look 1 page back. Would be a very useful addition.




6. Correct handling of seemless branching (directors cut\extended edition discs). King Kong\Hancock both have this problem where if you press the play button on the main menu the movie won't start or acts very weird - not useable backup.




7. Remove "min m2ts to encode" base that you have set (make it 0). It's causing problems, for example the default value for a BD25 is 100mb I believe, this will have potential problems for...

* movies made up of loads of m2ts (some parts of main movie might get encoded with a different codec due to being below min m2ts threshold = not play)

* some mpls have multiple m2ts in, for example if you view bonus material you might click to "play all" bonus material which would be it's own m2ts. with the way you have set it, it might mean some stuff would\wouldn't be encoded = m2ts in an mpls would be encoded with a different codec if original isn't MPEG4.

*** The above 2 stars wouldn't be an issue if you respected each videos mpls and encoded based on that...

So you could have a sort of "tree view" in BDRB, would be much more intuitive also...I don't know how difficult\easy that would be to implement but it would be the ideal solution and save lots of problems.

If you don't want to do that then removing the m2ts minimum encode threshold is essential.

tsmuxer has fixed the bug where it wouldn't properly extract very small video segments (<1mb) so it shouldn't be an issue to remove the threshold




8. Not a bug as such, but adding 720p resize for extras only would be a good idea (the program that can resize subtitles can now do it reliably to 720p...) BDSupEdit

9. Maintaining of interlaced source. It looks like interlaced material is all turned to progressive. This causes 59.94i (shows as 29.97i in BDRB) to have it's frame rate halved. I have no idea on the practicalities of interlaced encoding so feel free to ignore 8. and 9. as they are requests :)

10...Finally, I've noticed some strangeness with setting of custom output size. It doesn't always seem to get updated when you set and then save it in the options menu. You might want to remove this from the ini as the values aren't always in synch...maybe I'm just stupid.

11...Ohhhh one more...I've noticed that if I get say half way through and encode and have in the options to "keep all subtitles" then when I go back to encode and untick some subtitles - the encode WILL resume. But when it comes to rebuilding there will be major problems = wonky backup. In that scenario I'd blame myself, but there are times when it's the other way round so I may have english subs to be kept, but one or two foreign subs that are MANUALLY added. If BDRB stops for any reason, exits...etc. When you open it again it will default to only have the subs selected that are set to be enabled in the options screen.

Can cause major headache again, especially if you can't remember exactly which ones you have enabled\haven't.

I noticed this with AUDIO streams also...I was doing the film "Any Given Sunday" this has what looks to me as the 1st sign of crappy extra protections like with DVD where junk audio\video is added to the discs to puff it out. In this case only audio though (The main movie has about Dolby Digital 640 audio streams) that doesn't need to be there. So basically, it would be good if BDRB saved what you have selected once you press the encode button...

When reloading...Reload from what was actually set when encoding for each m2ts (or mpls if you decide to change the way encoding is done);), NOT what was set in the options.

That's all I can think of....(sorry I say "all"...lol...I don't envy you!!!) ;)


Thanks, Rob

[turbojet]

I see a few reports of tsmuxer 1.9.9 outputting unplayable BD's in this thread, I think it will take some thorough testing of 1.9.9 --avchd before using it as the tsmuxer.exe in the pack. While this testing is going on it would be nice to use a 1.8 version that muxes TrueHD properly like 1.8.30 - 1.8.34 other than that little fix it's --bluray output is identical to the current tsmuxer.exe used in BD-RB.

To add to the bug reports the 720p subs are still way too big and fall off the screen, BDSup2Sub integration would solve this. Check subtitle section of this forum for more info, it has command line support so integration should be fairly simple but it needs java runtime installed.

Also there's an issue with removed streams not getting removed from the mpls files which I mentioned here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274545#post1274545).

[DaMacFunkin]

Me and some others are still having probs with full back ups of Universal titles..
Me and a some others can't get full back ups of Twilight region B.
Sometimes the output is too big to fit on a BD-RE, but not a BD-R???

[Furiousflea]

Me and some others are still having probs with full back ups of Universal titles..
Me and a some others can't get full back ups of Twilight region B.
Sometimes the output is too big to fit on a BD-RE, but not a BD-R???

If you format a BD-RE in ImgBurn using the maximum available space. It will hold the same amount of data as a BD-R. Look at my guide for details, it's listed in it's own heading.

You only need to format it once, from then on you can just write over with more data and for all intents and purposes it will hold same data as a BD-R

[Mediogre]

Problem with aspect ratio on 480i 16/9 video:

I think this happens on all 480i 16/9 video that gets processed by BD-RB. At least on all that I've processed. I'll use the 00022.m2ts video in I Robot as the example. After shrinking with BD-RB to a BD25 I play the movie and this file is played with a 4/3 aspect ratio which is wrong. I use MPC to play the 00022.m2ts file directly and it plays with the correct aspect ratio. MediaInfo correctly reports the aspect ratio of it:

MediaInfo:
General
ID : 1
Complete name : F:\####\I.ROBOT\BDMV\STREAM\00022.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 1.37 GiB
Duration : 34mn 24s
Overall bit rate : 5 684 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 34mn 22s
Bit rate : 5 226 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 5 155 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.505
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1130 8475977


However, BDInfo does not:

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 29.970 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps


Upon further inspection I find that the associated CLPI file says its 4/3. I then used the CLIPINF Editor program to edit it back to 16/9 and now this video plays fine within the movie. Note that the original CLPI file (the one not processed by BD-RB) has the correct aspect ratio. So it looks like the CLPI file is being generated incorrectly for 480i 16/9 video. Let me know if you need any more info and thanks for a great program.

[tekmobile]

Problem with aspect ratio on 480i 16/9 video:

I think this happens on all 480i 16/9 video that gets processed by BD-RB. At least on all that I've processed. I'll use the 00022.m2ts video in I Robot as the example. After shrinking with BD-RB to a BD25 I play the movie and this file is played with a 4/3 aspect ratio which is wrong. I use MPC to play the 00022.m2ts file directly and it plays with the correct aspect ratio. MediaInfo correctly reports the aspect ratio of it:

MediaInfo:
General
ID : 1
Complete name : F:\####\I.ROBOT\BDMV\STREAM\00022.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 1.37 GiB
Duration : 34mn 24s
Overall bit rate : 5 684 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 34mn 22s
Bit rate : 5 226 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 5 155 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.505
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1130 8475977


However, BDInfo does not:

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 29.970 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps


Upon further inspection I find that the associated CLPI file says its 4/3. I then used the CLIPINF Editor program to edit it back to 16/9 and now this video plays fine within the movie. Note that the original CLPI file (the one not processed by BD-RB) has the correct aspect ratio. So it looks like the CLPI file is being generated incorrectly for 480i 16/9 video. Let me know if you need any more info and thanks for a great program.

Ive had the same issue and always fixed with clpinfeditor but this is a issue with TsMuxer there is a option that can be wrote in the meta file to state the aspect ratio but I dont know the commands, detecting from the video may have been fixed in the latest release but im still using 1.8.35

EDIT: Just done a very quick movie only rebuild with the latest version of TsMuxer 1.9.9 on some 480i 16:9 material and unlike earlier version the aspect ratio was correct don't know how it performs with a full BD-RB task though

[jdobbs]

2. Seems to be a bug where enabled streams are getting swapped for due to BDRB expecting all streams to be in numerical order and so a mismatch is made between the mpls and the clipi files....something like that (have a 1-2 pages back) reported by tekmobile\turbojet. They seem to think it would be easy to correct.Can you elaborate? When the streams are remuxed through TSMUXER they should be in numerical order... I'm a little confused.

[tekmobile]

Can you elaborate? When the streams are remuxed through TSMUXER they should be in numerical order... I'm a little confused.

See this post http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274615#post1274615

The streams in the clpi and mpls seem to be out of order on some titles but as BD Rebuilder puts them in the correct order this is resulting in incorrect mapping

[Mediogre]

Ive had the same issue and always fixed with clpinfeditor but this is a issue with TsMuxer there is a option that can be wrote in the meta file to state the aspect ratio but I dont know the commands, detecting from the video may have been fixed in the latest release but im still using 1.8.35

EDIT: Just done a very quick movie only rebuild with the latest version of TsMuxer 1.9.9 on some 480i 16:9 material and unlike earlier version the aspect ratio was correct don't know how it performs with a full BD-RB task though

Thanks. I too did a couple quick tests. 1.8.4 does have this bug and 1.9.9 does not (like you said). So I guess I'll wait for jdobbs to update TsMuxer then. Not a big deal since I wrote a script which looks for all 480i 16/9 source video and then just fix them with clpinf editor.

[tekmobile]

Thanks. I too did a couple quick tests. 1.8.4 does have this bug and 1.9.9 does not (like you said). So I guess I'll wait for jdobbs to update TsMuxer then. Not a big deal since I wrote a script which looks for all 480i 16/9 source video and then just fix them with clpinf editor.

If the latest version of TsMuxer works ok with your player then can update it yourself by overwriting the tsmuxer in the BD Rebuilders tool directory with the latest.

A quick test shows the latest version of TsMuxer is compatable with BD Rebuilders commands

[jdobbs]

See this post http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1274615#post1274615

The streams in the clpi and mpls seem to be out of order on some titles but as BD Rebuilder puts them in the correct order this is resulting in incorrect mappingOk. I see. The original had the stream ID's correct but they were out of order in the MPLS. Interesting -- I didn't expect that. I'll fix it.

[jangai]

I am running into the following Gordian knot :
-Want to make a BD25 backup of a 37,7 GB BD (Gattaca) with BD_RB (0.20.05) keeping only EN and FR audio and subtitles tracks.
-Feature of this movie is that ALL audio tracks are TrueHD ones

If I have have well understood, I CAN save TrueHD audio format with BD25 target by asking that into setting menu...

Alas, BD_RB rip make a 102% BD25 size that I can't burn on a 25GB disk...

I try to rip with manually reduced target size : Result is OK for BD 25 burning, but... TrueHD tracks don't works... ( Only allowed for true BD25 size ?)

It seems that in case of TrueHD tracks, size calculation is too large...

Could we have "TrueHD conservation" allowed for manually BD25 target adjusted ???

Thanks by advance

[MILLZY]

I have a sony BDP S300 i have done quite a few back-ups to bdr 25s the quality is fantastic my only problem is that the seems to be a little lag when i choose source direct on the player 1080/24p(my television can source 24p)But when i select 1080p instead everything is fine,No big deal but has anyone else seen this,Not sure if it is a bug or the player and tv can`t handle it well at source direct.:confused:

[mhammer]

I have a sony BDP S300 i have done quite a few back-ups to bdr 25s the quality is fantastic my only problem is that the seems to be a little lag when i choose source direct on the player 1080/24p(my television can source 24p)But when i select 1080p instead everything is fine,No big deal but has anyone else seen this,Not sure if it is a bug or the player and tv can`t handle it well at source direct.:confused:

It seems there is a problem with 24p on some players, my panasonic bd35 has only sound and no picture with 24p, with 60hz its plays fine.

[MILLZY]

It seems there is a problem with 24p on some players, my panasonic bd35 has only sound and no picture with 24p, with 60hz its plays fine.

No probs though, looks great at 1080p and 60hz i dont think you would notice the difference anyway! Or would you?