BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

Uh huh... Uh... it's called 'Irony' mate :DI, Rony... sounds like a movie title.

[AmigaFuture]

Uh huh... Uh... it's called 'Irony' mate :D

I'm not a believer of irony, mate...that's too shallow for me. ;-)

But now that we know your name, Rony...

[AmigaFuture]

Oppps..Dobbs sort of beat me to it. Ha!

[Lathe]

There are just TOO damn many clever people here... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/no.gif

[gonca]

There are just TOO damn many clever people here... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/no.gif

793 posts and nothing meaningful or useful as of yet :cool:

[Lathe]

793 posts and nothing meaningful or useful as of yet :cool:

Hmmm... do you guys smell something...?

[gonca]

794 and rising

[Blurayhd]

Hi Jdobbs I don´t know why on some Bluray encodings I get this message? sorry guys the screen capture is in Spanish (my first language)


http://img.fenixzone.net/i/TE9CWRa.jpeg


And this is the log

[02/10/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[12:35:10] Source: LES_MISERABLES_25TH_00005
- Input BD size: 43,16 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:49:52.098]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:35:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:35:14] Processing: VID_00007 (1 of 2)
- [12:35:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [12:44:39] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 119.784 frames
- Bitrate: 12.137 Kbs
- [12:44:39] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 88,50GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[13:28:11] - Failed video encode, aborted


So I don´t know what is wrong and how to get a solution?

I hope im doing well posting image and log

[gonca]

Are you overclocked
How are your temps
That is a x264 crash

[Blurayhd]

Are you overclocked
How are your temps
That is a x264 crash

No, I don´t I never do any overclock just in case it helps my processor is i7 2700k

Can be the problem if I use an SSD por encoding?

Anyway I hope there´s can be a solution?

[jdobbs]

No, I don´t I never do any overclock just in case it helps my processor is i7 2700k

Can be the problem if I use an SSD por encoding?

Anyway I hope there´s can be a solution?When X264 crashes it is highly likely you are overheating. I'd check your processor's heatsink and see if it is clogged with dust.

[Blurayhd]

When X264 crashes it is highly likely you are overheating. I'd check your processor's heatsink and see if it is clogged with dust.

I have an watercooling system, I check frecuently the system and the liquid of course.

And this computer I use for gaming too and noo problems

Could be anything else?

What do you recommend?

[jdobbs]

I have an watercooling system, I check frecuently the system and the liquid of course.

And this computer I use for gaming too and noo problems

Could be anything else?

What do you recommend?Not likely. Other software (even overclock testing software) just doesn't stress your system like X264. It's the ultimate test. The only other possibility I can think of might be memory overheating. You could try cleaning that as well. If you look back through this thread you'll find other similar reports, and I'm pretty sure every one of them was caused to overheating.

Try getting some software (like "Core Temp" or "CPUID HW Monitor") and monitor the temps while you are encoding.

Does your watercooling system have a radiator? I know I have to vacuum mine out regularly or my system overheats.

[Blurayhd]

Not likely. Other software (even overclock testing software) just doesn't stress your system like X264. It's the ultimate test. The only other possibility I can think of might be memory overheating. You could try cleaning that as well. If you look back through this thread you'll find other similar reports, and I'm pretty sure every one of them was caused to overheating.

Try getting some software (like "Core Temp" or "CPUID HW Monitor") and monitor the temps while you are encoding.

Does your watercooling system have a radiator? I know I have to vacuum mine out regularly or my system overheats.

Thank you Jdobbs, always you are there tryng (or trying, sorry) to solve problems.

And I have one more question, there´s a way to clean up Bd rebuilder, avisint and the others tools so I can install everything again without re install the OS?

I have 32gb on my system but maybe re installing all related to Bd rebuilder?

Please dont get my wrong thanks to you BD rebuilder exist, I just need to see the problem

[Blurayhd]

Not likely. Other software (even overclock testing software) just doesn't stress your system like X264. It's the ultimate test. The only other possibility I can think of might be memory overheating. You could try cleaning that as well. If you look back through this thread you'll find other similar reports, and I'm pretty sure every one of them was caused to overheating.

Try getting some software (like "Core Temp" or "CPUID HW Monitor") and monitor the temps while you are encoding.

Does your watercooling system have a radiator? I know I have to vacuum mine out regularly or my system overheats.

Dear Jdobbs I tried encoding the same Bluray movie but this time with another computer just in case and I get the same problem

I dont know what to do

[jdobbs]

Dear Jdobbs I tried encoding the same Bluray movie but this time with another computer just in case and I get the same problem

I dont know what to doAre you sure the source isn't corrupt?

[jdobbs]

I just wanted to give everyone an update on the UHD capability. I have BD-RB working. It can import 2160p MKVs etc. It can do full backups and movie-only backups of non-protected UHD-BD sources. But... I am having a lot of trouble with audio/video sync after TSMUXER muxes them. I can't blame TSMUXER, however, because MKVMERGE has the same issue after muxing. It may be some inconsistency in the HEVC stream generated by X265, or possibly FFMPEG (used for frame serving) could be losing frames... I really don't know. I don't think it is the audio, as it doesn't necessarily get reencoded, and it is handled no differently than with previous BD-RB versions.

I haven't figured out why this is happening yet, but if and when I do I'll release a test version here on Doom9. The biggest problem is that it takes anywhere between 10 and 18 hours for my system to do a full movie (even at the fastest encode speed and using one-pass ABR)... so you can only do so much in a day.

I think I'll do a couple encodes using AVISYNTH just to eliminate the FFMPEG possibility -- but even if it works correctly that's not a long term solution as it would also be losing the HDR and 10 bit attributes during encode.

[Acerjen]

I just wanted to give everyone an update on the UHD capability. I have BD-RB working. It can import 2160p MKVs etc. It can do full backups and movie-only backups of non-protected UHD-BD sources. But... I am having a lot of trouble with audio/video sync after TSMUXER muxes them. I can't blame TSMUXER, however, because MKVMERGE has the same issue after muxing. It may be some inconsistency in the HEVC stream generated by X265, I really don't know. I don't think it is the audio, as it doesn't get reencoded, and it is handled no differently than with previous BD-RB versions.

I haven't figured out why this is happening yet, but if and when I do I'll release a test version here on Doom9. The biggest problem is that it takes anywhere between 10 and 18 hours for my system to do a full movie (even at the fastest encode speed and using one-pass ABR)... so you can only do so much in a day.


I have a system setup with a Ryzen 1700 (8-Core) running at 3.9 GHz. If you want some help getting some UHD testing done, let me know. Thank you for a great program.

Later,
Acerjen

[LowDead]

I have a system setup with a Ryzen 1700 (8-Core) running at 3.9 GHz. If you want some help getting some UHD testing done, let me know. Thank you for a great program.

Later,
Acerjen

I too got a new rig for UHD encoding. Intel i7 6 core 8700K @3.7GHz with Nvidia 1060 gfx and 32gb ram. Doing Men in Black now down to BD50 under 30 minutes using the gfx card hardware decoding and encoding. Haven't tried software encodes on this CPU yet, but will probably be quite fast too. So count me in if you need testers.

Have nice day!

//LD

[kufo]

Thanks for the backup, jdobbs. The issue with audio and video getting out of sync, was discussed in Redfox before. I read about that, obout two weeks before.
I'll be patient...
Thanks for your great work
anyway!

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the backup, jdobbs. The issue with audio and video getting out of sync, was discussed in Redfox before. I read about that, obout two weeks before.
I'll be patient...
Thanks for your great work
anyway!Did anyone come to any conclusion?

[Lathe]

Did anyone come to any conclusion?

Yeah...

gonca is a wee wee head... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif

[MrVideo]

Suggestion mode: Allow DTS audio for background music.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I just wanted to give everyone an update on the UHD capability. I have BD-RB working. It can import 2160p MKVs etc. It can do full backups and movie-only backups of non-protected UHD-BD sources. But... I am having a lot of trouble with audio/video sync after TSMUXER muxes them. I can't blame TSMUXER, however, because MKVMERGE has the same issue after muxing. It may be some inconsistency in the HEVC stream generated by X265, or possibly FFMPEG (used for frame serving) could be losing frames... I really don't know. I don't think it is the audio, as it doesn't necessarily get reencoded, and it is handled no differently than with previous BD-RB versions.

I haven't figured out why this is happening yet, but if and when I do I'll release a test version here on Doom9. The biggest problem is that it takes anywhere between 10 and 18 hours for my system to do a full movie (even at the fastest encode speed and using one-pass ABR)... so you can only do so much in a day.

I think I'll do a couple encodes using AVISYNTH just to eliminate the FFMPEG possibility -- but even if it works correctly that's not a long term solution as it would also be losing the HDR and 10 bit attributes during encode. It looks as though frames are being added during the encode process (FFMPEG?). I just ran the original and the output from the encode through AVISYNTH using StackVertical() and the new encode slowly lags more-and-more behind the original as it plays (at the same frame rate). Because of the apparent addition of frames, the total length of the new encode is 31 seconds longer than the original on the test I'm doing. I'm now running the exact same encode using AVISYNTH as the frame server rather than FFMPEG. I'll see what happens in about 15 hours or so.

If I'm lucky I may find that its caused by my use of the "-r" option in FFMPEG... but that'll take another encode as well.

[kufo]

Did anyone come to any conclusion?

@jdobbs
Unfortunately, I can not find the post anymore. I'm afraid it was deleted ... How does it look if MKV is selected as the output format?
I remember it was related to the output format. Details were as far as I remember not mentioned. That's probably a secret from Elby CBD.
It is about 2 weeks (may be 3 weeks) ago that I have read the post. I'm sorry that I can not say more about that.

If I'm lucky I may find that its caused by my use of the "-r" option in FFMPEG... but that'll take another encode as well.

I hope this is the solution to the problem.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Unfortunately, I can not find the post anymore. I'm afraid it was deleted ... How does it look if MKV is selected as the output format?
I remember it was related to the output format. Details were as far as I remember not mentioned. That's probably a secret from Elby CBD.
It is about 2 weeks (may be 3 weeks) ago that I have read the post. I'm sorry that I can not say more about that.

If I'm lucky I may find that its caused by my use of the "-r" option in FFMPEG... but that'll take another encode as well.

I hope this is the solution to the problem.No. That wasn't the problem. In fact the problem persists even if I frame serve with AVISYNTH. So that eliminates FFMPEG as the culprit. That points to X265 as the source of the problem. I even removed all options from the X265 command line and used the default settings --- and it still appears that frames are being added. The original video gradually gets out of sync with the newly encoded video when I play them back together in AVISYNTH.

Not sure how I am going to fix this -- my next step will be to see if there is anything documented as a bug fix and try a newer X265 version.

[gonca]

I just wanted to give everyone an update on the UHD capability. I have BD-RB working. It can import 2160p MKVs etc. It can do full backups and movie-only backups of non-protected UHD-BD sources. But... I am having a lot of trouble with audio/video sync after TSMUXER muxes them. I can't blame TSMUXER, however, because MKVMERGE has the same issue after muxing. It may be some inconsistency in the HEVC stream generated by X265, or possibly FFMPEG (used for frame serving) could be losing frames... I really don't know. I don't think it is the audio, as it doesn't necessarily get reencoded, and it is handled no differently than with previous BD-RB versions.

I haven't figured out why this is happening yet, but if and when I do I'll release a test version here on Doom9. The biggest problem is that it takes anywhere between 10 and 18 hours for my system to do a full movie (even at the fastest encode speed and using one-pass ABR)... so you can only do so much in a day.

I think I'll do a couple encodes using AVISYNTH just to eliminate the FFMPEG possibility -- but even if it works correctly that's not a long term solution as it would also be losing the HDR and 10 bit attributes during encode.

Vapoursynth allows retention of HDR10 metadata
This app allows for the addition of HDR10 metadata to the hevc stream
https://github.com/SK-Hardwired/nv_hevc_hdr_patcher

@Lathe
Weak, very weak
About your limit I guess

[gonca]

@jdobbs
What happens to the sync if you re encode to MKV?

[MrVideo]

@jdobbs
What happens to the sync if you re encode to MKV?
MKV is a wrapper, so that is not going to make a difference.

[Lathe]

MKV is a wrapper, so that is not going to make a difference.

DOHHHHHH!

... and WHO is outta their league now...? :D

[gonca]

MKV is a wrapper, so that is not going to make a difference.

Would eliminate TsMuxer as the issue, process of elimination

Note
I am re encoding UHD to MKV and I have no sync issues
Using DGIndexNV, Vapoursynth and NVEnc

@Lathe
That would be you!!!:D
797 and climbing

[kufo]

MKV is a wrapper, so that is not going to make a difference.

In CBD it did make a diffrence. Maybe it was software related, but output to MKV was playing fine for me.

[MrVideo]

Maybe I should have added some fine print. jdobbs indicated that it is an encoder issue, therefore no matter what wrapper is used, it isn't going to make the encoder issue go away. As the old saying goes, crap in, crap out.

[MrVideo]

On a different note, I went looking for an option that would cause the background for the menu to loop if it contains audio, but I didn't find it. Is there one?

[jdobbs]

Would eliminate TsMuxer as the issue, process of elimination

Note
I am re encoding UHD to MKV and I have no sync issues
Using DGIndexNV, Vapoursynth and NVEnc

@Lathe
That would be you!!!:D
797 and climbingIt does the exact same think in MKV.

[jdobbs]

On a different note, I went looking for an option that would cause the background for the menu to loop if it contains audio, but I didn't find it. Is there one?Sorry, but no. That has been on the "to do" list for a long time.

[SquallMX]

No. That wasn't the problem. In fact the problem persists even if I frame serve with AVISYNTH. So that eliminates FFMPEG as the culprit. That points to X265 as the source of the problem. I even removed all options from the X265 command line and used the default settings --- and it still appears that frames are being added. The original video gradually gets out of sync with the newly encoded video when I play them back together in AVISYNTH.

Not sure how I am going to fix this -- my next step will be to see if there is anything documented as a bug fix and try a newer X265 version.

Handbrake produces properly sync re-encodes with HDR, I think it uses FFMPEG too.

[MrVideo]

Sorry, but no. That has been on the "to do" list for a long time.
OK. Thanks, just making sure.

[gonca]

@jdobbs
x265 version
2.6+31-3712d13c09bf

test 1
script
import vapoursynth as vs
core = vs.get_core()
core.avs.LoadPlugin(r'C:\Program Files (Portable)\dgdecnv\x64 Binaries\DGDecodeNV.dll')
clip = core.avs.DGSource(r'I:\Morgan.dgi', fieldop=0, fulldepth=True)
clip.set_output()


cmd line
"xxxx\avs2pipemod\avs2pipemod64.exe" -y4mp | "C:\Program Files (Portable)\x265\x265.exe" --crf 18 --preset ultrafast --profile main10 --level-idc 5.1 --output-depth 10 --frames 0 --y4m --output W:\TEMP\yyy.hevc -

test 2
same script
cmd line
"xxxx\avs2pipemod\avs2pipemod64.exe" -y4mp | "C:\Program Files (Portable)\x265\x265.exe" --crf 18 --preset ultrafast --profile main10 --level-idc 4.1 --output-depth 10 --hdr --uhd-bd --frames 0 --y4m --output W:\TEMP\yyy.hevc -

results
original 14400 frames
test 1 14400 frames
test 2 14400 frames

same frame count, no extra frames

[staina]

In Windows 10 don't go choose item

Use DirectshoeSource for frame serving

where make mistakes? Help thank you Staina

[jdobbs]

In Windows 10 don't go choose item

Use DirectshoeSource for frame serving

where make mistakes? Help thank you StainaYou have to install LAV Filters for Directshow to be available. See step 2A in the first post of this thread.

[jdobbs]

Update: I believe I've gotten past the sync issues on UHD-BD backups. I'll know after a couple of full encodes (10-18 hours each). It turns out it was poor attention to detail on my part. I went back and started over, testing every type of encoding sequence -- only to be perplexed when an AVISYNTH encode was in-sync. Apparently I'd done something in my first go-around that made me think it was out of sync also. That pointed to FFMPEG -- and I discovered it was an error in the way I used "-r " in the command line. It looks like a lot of time was wasted on this one due to my own mistakes... but I'll know for certain after this next round of encodes is done.

With a little luck I will be able to post a UHD-BD test version some time this week.

[Lathe]

Update: I believe I've gotten past the sync issues on UHD-BD backups. I'll know after a couple of full encodes (10-18 hours each). It turns out it was poor attention to detail on my part. I went back and started over, testing every type of encoding sequence -- only to be perplexed when an AVISYNTH encode was in-sync. Apparently I'd done something in my first go-around that made me think it was out of sync also. That pointed to FFMPEG -- and I discovered it was an error in the way I used "-r " in the command line. It looks like a lot of time was wasted on this one due to my own mistakes... but I'll know for certain after this next round of encodes is done.

With a little luck I will be able to post a UHD-BD test version some time this week.

Thanks Boss!

[kufo]

Glad to her this. Little mistake, big impact. I really want to know, what your new encode will bring.

[Ch3vr0n]

I'd love to see NVEnc support :D Hardware decoding and encoding for 3D discs ^^

[drmih]

Update: I believe I've gotten past the sync issues on UHD-BD backups. I'll know after a couple of full encodes (10-18 hours each). It turns out it was poor attention to detail on my part. I went back and started over, testing every type of encoding sequence -- only to be perplexed when an AVISYNTH encode was in-sync. Apparently I'd done something in my first go-around that made me think it was out of sync also. That pointed to FFMPEG -- and I discovered it was an error in the way I used "-r " in the command line. It looks like a lot of time was wasted on this one due to my own mistakes... but I'll know for certain after this next round of encodes is done.

With a little luck I will be able to post a UHD-BD test version some time this week.

If using LAV will it be possible to get the CUDA acceleration using GPU as I'm not sure I want to go back to 1 day encodes?

[kufo]

If using LAV will it be possible to get the CUDA acceleration using GPU as I'm not sure I want to go back to 1 day encodes?
A one day encode is even better, than a fault. We all have to do some testing when the new version will ne introduced.

[jdobbs]

If using LAV will it be possible to get the CUDA acceleration using GPU as I'm not sure I want to go back to 1 day encodes?Yes, for frame serving. You can tell LAV to use it in the Video Configuration dialog.

[jdobbs]

A one day encode is even better, than a fault. We all have to do some testing when the new version will ne introduced.I added a test mode that limits any M2TS to the first 10 minutes so testing can be done without the huge time investment.

[jdobbs]

I'd love to see NVEnc support :D Hardware decoding and encoding for 3D discs ^^I haven't been following NVEnc, since my NVIDIA video card is older. How do you use it now? Via FFMPEG?

[gonca]

I haven't been following NVEnc, since my NVIDIA video card is older. How do you use it now? Via FFMPEG?

I believe it can be used thru ffmpeg or by NVEncC, a command line app by rigaya

[Ch3vr0n]

I haven't been following NVEnc, since my NVIDIA video card is older. How do you use it now? Via FFMPEG?Via CloneBD from elby for my 2d discs. Bdrb is still my go-to for 3d ones but with software encoding it still takes up to half a day. HW enc would cut that down significantly

For comparison

On my new current rig a BD50 to bd25 2d takes around 4-6hrs with bdrb. NVenc with CloneBD does that in 15min's with my GTX 1080.

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk

[gonca]

@Ch3vr0n
Doesn't CloneBD use FFMPEG in the background?

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

@Ch3vr0n
Doesn't CloneBD use FFMPEG in the background?

Depending on where you look you'll see it stated that CloneBD is powered by libav or ffmpeg. Elaborate Bytes' page on the product says libav. RedFox's page say ffmpeg. Looking in the application forlder you'll see "drone" files related to both.

[Ch3vr0n]

Oh I know, it's just that under video settings encoding and decoding is done by hardware (though I believe it says 'cuda' in settings instead of the newer NVEnc) .

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk

[jdobbs]

Via CloneBD from elby for my 2d discs. Bdrb is still my go-to for 3d ones but with software encoding it still takes up to half a day. HW enc would cut that down significantly

For comparison

On my new current rig a BD50 to bd25 2d takes around 4-6hrs with bdrb. NVenc with CloneBD does that in 15min's with my GTX 1080.

Sent from my Nexus 6P with TapatalkIs the GTX 1080 a Maxwell GPU? The NVEnc writeup I saw says you need Maxwell for H.265 encoding.

[gonca]

GTX 10-series cards are Pascal GPUs, so they are good for 10 bit HEVC encoding

[jdobbs]

GTX 10-series cards are Pascal GPUs, so they are good for 10 bit HEVC encodingAhhh... I wasn't thinking. I guess I misread and it is a minimum of maxwell (I just haven't been keeping up on this stuff). Has anyone tested a GTX 1050? Is it good enough for HEVC encoding? Any minimum amount of memory? I'm thinking about upgrading -- but I need to keep my cost down.

Does the 10 series encodes support B frames when HEVC encoding? Some reading I saw seems to imply it doesn't.

[Ch3vr0n]

Plenty people use the 1050 in combination with clbd. Though I'd recommend perhaps posting on the RedFox forum section for clbd and tag Pete for the b-frames. He's pretty knowledgeable in that area.

The memory doesn't matter that much I believe, it's the 'cuda/NVEnc' cores that matter that determines the speed.

So if I could wish for 1 thing with bdrb it's HW accelerated de-/encoding.

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[gonca]

Does the 10 series encodes support B frames when HEVC encoding? Some reading I saw seems to imply it doesn't.
No
But if compression is to BD25 it is pretty good, your eyes are the final answer on that

Edit
I can take a 2 hour+ (70GB +) movie using AC3 640 Kbps audio to 15 or 16 GB file
The extra bit rate given to the movie should make it good for normal viewing
Advantage is encode in about 30 to 40 minutes with my settings

[geheim]

Picture uality with NVEnc definitely is worse than with software encoding. I did some UHD encoding with DVDFab using CUDA and the resulting video files have much more blocking and compression artefacts, especially in dark Scenes, than compared to encodes with x265. So CUDA/NVEnc is a good thing for testing, but if you care about picture quality I'd always prefer x265, no matter how long encoding takes with it.

[Ch3vr0n]

X265 is all ENCODING library. Just like x264. It has ZERO impact on quality software encoding or hardware encoding. Hardware only speeds things up. Quality is determined by the level of compression you choose (and in case of cli the switches you select)

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[Blurayhd]

Dear Jdobbs, at this time I just cant donate (I really want to) but my budget dont let me do it, but I just like to say thank you for doing it, I really appreciate your work and pacience to respond questions

And so dar we know you are making a new release that includes support for 4k, please dont get me wrong, it is possible thanks to you, I just wish to know more or less when you think new release will come?

Have a nice week!!

[Ch3vr0n]

He's already working on uhd support

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[gonca]

Picture uality with NVEnc definitely is worse than with software encoding. I did some UHD encoding with DVDFab using CUDA and the resulting video files have much more blocking and compression artefacts, especially in dark Scenes, than compared to encodes with x265. So CUDA/NVEnc is a good thing for testing, but if you care about picture quality I'd always prefer x265, no matter how long encoding takes with it.

CUDA encoding results were not that good,
But NVEnc is not CUDA based, it is VPU based
If your encoding app is still using the CUDA cores for encoding, then yeah, quality wouldn't be that good.
Quality, as Ch2vr0n said, also depends on your settings

[drmih]

Ahhh... I wasn't thinking. I guess I misread and it is a minimum of maxwell (I just haven't been keeping up on this stuff). Has anyone tested a GTX 1050? Is it good enough for HEVC encoding? Any minimum amount of memory? I'm thinking about upgrading -- but I need to keep my cost down.

Does the 10 series encodes support B frames when HEVC encoding? Some reading I saw seems to imply it doesn't.

I have 2 1050s - a second hand 2 Gb one I recently put into an oldish pc (8 years old) and another 4Gb one in a new gaming laptop - both perform the same. With either DVDFab, or CloneBD, the time for a typical UHD ranges from 20 to 40 mins, depending on the length. For discs of around 60 to 70 Gb, where I tend to lose the ATMOS, compressing to bd-25 produces discs which I struggle to tell the difference from the original. As you get up to 90 to 100 Gb then you do occasionally see artefacts, and I tend to go for bd-50 with the ATMOS.

[MrVideo]

Strange issue. I'm authoring some Blu-rays that will also contain some 480i videos extracted from a DVD. The problem is that the audio is leading the video by a second. The original files are fine. If I manually run tsmuxer on the MKV file, the audio is correct. But, the m2ts file that BDRB creates has the issue. So, I went looking for the meta file. Very tricky, in that I have to abort the process during the integration stage and not say OK to the dialog, so that the meta file will hang around.

Here is the content of the meta file:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:07:18.471
--vbv-len=500 --start-time=27000000
V_MPEG-2,"E:\BD-REBUILDER\WORK\TEMPIMPORT\Video.track_1.MPV", fps=29.97
A_AC3,"E:\BD-REBUILDER\WORK\TEMPIMPORT\Audio.track_2.AC3", timeshift= -1mn 5s, lang=eng
The plot thickens. For some reason there is that large audio timeshift, yet the actual shift is 1 sec. The audio should not be shifted at all. The H.264 MKV 1080p files are just fine.

As a test, I removed the timeshift and ran the BDRB tsmuxer using the modified meta file and all was well.

What do I have to do to stop the audio shift?

[SquallMX]

Picture uality with NVEnc definitely is worse than with software encoding. I did some UHD encoding with DVDFab using CUDA and the resulting video files have much more blocking and compression artefacts, especially in dark Scenes, than compared to encodes with x265. So CUDA/NVEnc is a good thing for testing, but if you care about picture quality I'd always prefer x265, no matter how long encoding takes with it.

Yeah, Tried with Ghostbusters (the original one), The results are awful, even using BD-50 as a target size. Software encoding with x265 is way better but more time consuming.

Software encoding------->Hardware encoding.

[Glarioo]

Ahhh... I wasn't thinking. I guess I misread and it is a minimum of maxwell (I just haven't been keeping up on this stuff). Has anyone tested a GTX 1050? Is it good enough for HEVC encoding? Any minimum amount of memory? I'm thinking about upgrading -- but I need to keep my cost down.

Does the 10 series encodes support B frames when HEVC encoding? Some reading I saw seems to imply it doesn't.

ET movie with CloneBD and hardware acceleration enabled. 7(CUDA and Highest quality).
The bitrate at 29.37mbps, and after 40 minutes ... job done.
I'm happy with my MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4G OC GPU.

[jdobbs]

X265 is all ENCODING library. Just like x264. It has ZERO impact on quality software encoding or hardware encoding. Hardware only speeds things up. Quality is determined by the level of compression you choose (and in case of cli the switches you select)

Sent from my Nexus 6P with TapatalkI can't agree with that. There are a number of reasons why X265 will encode better.

[jdobbs]

Dear Jdobbs, at this time I just cant donate (I really want to) but my budget dont let me do it, but I just like to say thank you for doing it, I really appreciate your work and pacience to respond questions

And so dar we know you are making a new release that includes support for 4k, please dont get me wrong, it is possible thanks to you, I just wish to know more or less when you think new release will come?

Have a nice week!!I was hoping this week -- but I've run into another problem. I've found that, while now in sync, my full-film backups are running into halt-and-resume problems at about the halfway point (on at least one film). I think it may be related to the muxing.

[kufo]

I was hoping this week -- but I've run into another problem. I've found that, while now in sync, my full-film backups are running into halt-and-resume problems at about the halfway point (on at least one film). I think it may be related to the muxing.

I would have been happy if it had worked so fast, but it doesn´t matter for me to wait a bit longer for such a good software. You really set the bar high for it with BDrebuilder :D

[MrVideo]

Fixed: Audio Issue

Got it working, but not sure why. To get around the issue, I took the TS file and made a new MKV file, with the audio delayed 1 sec. The result: the 1 sec delay stayed. So, I tried the original MKV file and again got the 1 sec advancement.

In frustration, I took the TS file and remade the MKV file, without any delay and all was well (the meta file had a 4ms shift). I made the original MKV file with an older VideoReDo and the new MKV with a newer version.

No idea what BDRB was looking at in the MKV file to cause the original problem, even though the file plays via VLC, and VRD, without any audio issues.

[Lathe]

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Very nice pictures mate! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif

[jdobbs]

Fixed: Audio Issue

Got it working, but not sure why. To get around the issue, I took the TS file and made a new MKV file, with the audio delayed 1 sec. The result: the 1 sec delay stayed. So, I tried the original MKV file and again got the 1 sec advancement.

In frustration, I took the TS file and remade the MKV file, without any delay and all was well (the meta file had a 4ms shift). I made the original MKV file with an older VideoReDo and the new MKV with a newer version.

No idea what BDRB was looking at in the MKV file to cause the original problem, even though the file plays via VLC, and VRD, without any audio issues.The delay would only be added if MEDIAINFO told BD-RB it existed.

[MrVideo]

Very nice pictures mate! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif
Thanks.

[MrVideo]

The delay would only be added if MEDIAINFO told BD-RB it existed.
Interesting. A sample using the BDRB mediainfo.exe:
General
Count : 284
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : General
Kind of stream : General
Stream identifier : 0
Unique ID : 324646248287871411194358783481100742116
Unique ID : 324646248287871411194358783481100742116
(0xF43C97D4D0CBC93310519FAEF9F1ADE4)
Count of video streams : 1
Count of audio streams : 1
Count of menu streams : 1
Video_Format_List : MPEG Video
Video_Format_WithHint_List : MPEG Video
Codecs Video : MPEG-2 Video
Audio_Format_List : AC-3
Audio_Format_WithHint_List : AC-3
Audio codecs : AC3
Audio_Language_List : English
Complete name : input.mkv
File name : input.mkv
File extension : mkv
Format : Matroska
Format : Matroska
Format/Url : http://packs.matroska.org/
Format/Extensions usually used : mkv mk3d mka mks
Commercial name : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
Codec : Matroska
Codec : Matroska
Codec/Url : http://packs.matroska.org/
Codec/Extensions usually used : mkv mk3d mka mks
File size : 331694344
File size : 316 MiB
File size : 316 MiB
File size : 316 MiB
File size : 316 MiB
File size : 316.3 MiB
Duration : 1276908
Duration : 21mn 16s
Duration : 21mn 16s 908ms
Duration : 21mn 16s
Duration : 00:21:16.908
Overall bit rate mode : VBR
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 2078110
Overall bit rate : 2 078 Kbps
File creation date : UTC 2018-02-21 19:09:40.740
File creation date (local) : 2018-02-21 13:09:40.740
File last modification date : UTC 2016-10-24 02:23:45.795
File last modification date (local) : 2016-10-23 20:23:45.795
Writing application : Lavf54.63.104
Writing library : Lavf54.63.104
Writing library : Lavf54.63.104

Video
Count : 264
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Video
Kind of stream : Video
Stream identifier : 0
StreamOrder : 0
ID : 1
ID : 1
Unique ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Commercial name : MPEG-2 Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format_Settings_Matrix_Data : [removed due to length]
Internet media type : video/MPV
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Codec ID/Url : http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/
Codec : V_MPEG2
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec/Family : MPEG-V
Codec/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Codec/Url : http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/
Codec profile : Main@Main
Codec settings : CustomMatrix
Codec settings, Matrix : Custom
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate mode : Variable
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Bit rate : 1 845 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 9800000
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
Width : 720
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480
Height : 480 pixels
Pixel aspect ratio : 1.181
Original pixel aspect ratio : 1.185
Display aspect ratio : 1.771
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Original display aspect ratio : 1.778
Original display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : VFR
Frame rate mode : Variable
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Original frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 8
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : TFF
Scan order : Top Field First
Interlacement : PPF
Interlacement : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay : 65769
Delay : 1mn 5s
Delay : 1mn 5s 769ms
Delay : 1mn 5s
Delay : 00:01:05.769
Delay, origin : Container
Delay, origin : Container
Default : No
Default : No
Forced : No
Forced : No
Buffer size : 229376
intra_dc_precision : 10

Audio
Count : 250
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
Kind of stream : Audio
Stream identifier : 0
StreamOrder : 1
ID : 2
ID : 2
Unique ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : AC-3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
Codec : AC3
Codec : AC3
Codec/Family : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Duration : 1276908
Duration : 21mn 16s
Duration : 21mn 16s 908ms
Duration : 21mn 16s
Duration : 00:21:16.908
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192000
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Channel positions : 2/0/0
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Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
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Resolution : 16
Resolution : 16 bits
Bit depth : 16
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay : 234
Delay : 234ms
Delay : 234ms
Delay : 234ms
Delay : 00:00:00.234
Delay, origin : Container
Delay, origin : Container
Delay relative to video : -65535
Delay relative to video : -1mn 5s
Delay relative to video : -1mn 5s 535ms
Delay relative to video : -1mn 5s
Delay relative to video : -00:01:05.535
Video0 delay : -65535
Video0 delay : -1mn 5s
Video0 delay : -1mn 5s 535ms
Video0 delay : -1mn 5s
Video0 delay : -00:01:05.535
Stream size : 30645792
Stream size : 29.2 MiB (9%)
Stream size : 29 MiB
Stream size : 29 MiB
Stream size : 29.2 MiB
Stream size : 29.23 MiB
Stream size : 29.2 MiB (9%)
Proportion of this stream : 0.09239
Language : en
Language : English
Language : English
Language : en
Language : eng
Language : en
Default : Yes
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Forced : No
dsurmod : 1
dsurmod/String : Not Dolby Surround encoded
dialnorm : -27
dialnorm/String : -27 dB
compr : 5.74
compr/String : 5.74 dB
dynrng : 5.60
dynrng/String : 5.60 dB
bsid : 6
dialnorm_Average : -27
dialnorm_Average/String : -27 dB
dialnorm_Minimum : -27
dialnorm_Minimum/String : -27 dB
dialnorm_Maximum : -27
dialnorm_Maximum/String : -27 dB
dialnorm_Count : 2
compr_Average : 5.74
compr_Average/String : 5.74 dB
compr_Minimum : 5.74
compr_Minimum/String : 5.74 dB
compr_Maximum : 5.74
compr_Maximum/String : 5.74 dB
compr_Count : 2
dynrng_Average : 5.60
dynrng_Average/String : 5.60 dB
dynrng_Minimum : 5.60
dynrng_Minimum/String : 5.60 dB
dynrng_Maximum : 5.60
dynrng_Maximum/String : 5.60 dB
dynrng_Count : 2

Menu
Count : 81
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Menu
Kind of stream : Menu
Stream identifier : 0
Chapters_Pos_Begin : 75
Chapters_Pos_End : 81
00:00:00.000 : :Chapter 1
00:05:42.709 : :Chapter 2
00:10:38.671 : :Chapter 3
00:15:07.539 : :Chapter 4
00:20:06.171 : :Chapter 5
00:21:15.474 : :Chapter 6
That begs the question, if the audio delay is -1mn 5s, why did it actually become 1 sec?

Something tells me that the library that VRD used had a bug and put in a delay value that was actually wrong. Using VLC, the files played without any kind of sync error.

I'm redoing all of the files with a later version of VRD.

Interesting problem.

[jdobbs]

Interesting. A sample using the BDRB mediainfo.exe:
...
That begs the question, if the audio delay is -1mn 5s, why did it actually become 1 sec?

Something tells me that the library that VRD used had a bug and put in a delay value that was actually wrong. Using VLC, the files played without any kind of sync error.

I'm redoing all of the files with a later version of VRD.

Interesting problem.Just out of curiosity -- do you get different results from a newer version of MEDIAINFO?

[MrVideo]

Just out of curiosity -- do you get different results from a newer version of MEDIAINFO?
I downloaded 17.12 and used the CLI version to grab the following info:
General
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Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : General
Kind of stream : General
Stream identifier : 0
Unique ID : [removed due to length]
Unique ID : [removed due to length]
Count of video streams : 1
Count of audio streams : 1
Count of menu streams : 1
Video_Format_List : MPEG Video
Video_Format_WithHint_List : MPEG Video
Codecs Video : MPEG-2 Video
Audio_Format_List : AC-3
Audio_Format_WithHint_List : AC-3
Audio codecs : AC3
Audio_Language_List : English
Complete name : n:/input.mkv
File name : n:/input
File extension : mkv
Format : Matroska
Format : Matroska
Format/Url : https://matroska.org/downloads/windows.html
Format/Extensions usually used : mkv mk3d mka mks
Commercial name : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
Codec : Matroska
Codec : Matroska
Codec/Url : https://matroska.org/downloads/windows.html
Codec/Extensions usually used : mkv mk3d mka mks
File size : 331694344
File size : 316 MiB
File size : 316 MiB
File size : 316 MiB
File size : 316 MiB
File size : 316.3 MiB
Duration : 1276908
Duration : 21 min 16 s
Duration : 21 min 16 s 908 ms
Duration : 21 min 16 s
Duration : 00:21:16.908
Duration : 00:21:16.908
Overall bit rate mode : VBR
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
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Overall bit rate : 2 078 kb/s
IsStreamable : Yes
File creation date : UTC 2018-02-22 02:06:20.403
File creation date (local) : 2018-02-21 20:06:20.403
File last modification date : UTC 2016-10-24 02:23:45.795
File last modification date (local) : 2016-10-23 20:23:45.795
Writing application : Lavf54.63.104
Writing application : Lavf54.63.104
Writing library : Lavf54.63.104
Writing library : Lavf54.63.104

Video
Count : 343
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Video
Kind of stream : Video
Stream identifier : 0
StreamOrder : 0
ID : 1
ID : 1
Unique ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Commercial name : MPEG-2 Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
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Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format_Settings_Matrix_Data : [removed due to length]
Format settings, GOP : Variable
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Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Codec ID/Url : http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/
Codec : V_MPEG2
Codec : MPEG-2 Video
Codec/Family : MPEG-V
Codec/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Codec/Url : http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/
Codec profile : Main@Main
Codec settings : CustomMatrix
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There is definitely a difference.

Hopefully you use Delay relative to video.

[DeathStalker77]

I have been getting this specific error on a LOT of BDs lately. Whether it is trying to make a complete copy or shrink to ANY format :(

[jdobbs]

I have been getting this specific error on a LOT of BDs lately. Whether it is trying to make a complete copy or shrink to ANY format :(That is a "path not found" error. Are there any strange or unusual characters in the path name, maybe? Is it an exceptionally long path name?

[DeathStalker77]

That is a "path not found" error. Are there any strange or unusual characters in the path name, maybe? Is it an exceptionally long path name?

Of the two most recent, one only had 21 characters and spaces, the other was 19 characters and the only "special" characters were [].

[jfcarbel]

In order to keep Atmos audio is this correct understanding:
- TrueHD track must be selected
- Keep HD audio is selected in settings page
- Full Backup is selected

Is that correct?

[worknstiff]

@ jfcarbel RE: Too keep Atmos audio is this correct understanding:
- TrueHD track must be selected
- Keep HD audio is selected in settings page
- Full Backup is selected

Is that correct? Those must be checked but you don't have to do a "Full" backup, you can do a movie only, BUT it must be a BD25 backup. You can keep just the "Core" 1500k DTS if you do a DVD+R or DVD+R DL backup by leaving the "Keep HD Audio" checked. Backup to a DVD+R doesn't leave enough space to keep the ATMOS or TrueHD lossless audio.

[jfcarbel]

@ jfcarbel RE: Too keep Atmos audio is this correct understanding:
- TrueHD track must be selected
- Keep HD audio is selected in settings page
- Full Backup is selected

Is that correct? Those must be checked but you don't have to do a "Full" backup, you can do a movie only, BUT it must be a BD25 backup. You can keep just the "Core" 1500k DTS if you do a DVD+R or DVD+R DL backup by leaving the "Keep HD Audio" checked. Backup to a DVD+R doesn't leave enough space to keep the ATMOS or TrueHD lossless audio.

Thanks was not sure movie only would work as I seem to see some prior posts indicating full backup. Yes, I understand the space atmos requires so a BD 25 or 50 is required.

Thanks.

[DeathStalker77]

That is a "path not found" error. Are there any strange or unusual characters in the path name, maybe? Is it an exceptionally long path name?

I just got this on a path that was c:\temp\XXXXXXXX#### - 8 letters, 4 numbers, no spaces, no characters.

[jdobbs]

I just got this on a path that was c:\temp\XXXXXXXX#### - 8 letters, 4 numbers, no spaces, no characters.Sorry. I haven't a clue why you are getting it. But, the fact that I'm not getting any other similar reports leads me to believe it is something particular to your system.

Try deleting (or temporarily renaming) the BDREBUILDER.INI file and see what effect that has.

[DeathStalker77]

Sorry. I haven't a clue why you are getting it. But, the fact that I'm not getting any other similar reports leads me to believe it is something particular to your system.

Try deleting (or temporarily renaming) the BDREBUILDER.INI file and see what effect that has.

Ok, I can try that. Nothing special with my system. I don't do any encodes or anything like that, just shrink what I think doesn't need to be a BD50. FWIW, both DVDRB and DVDShrink work (and yes, I know diff codecs and diff files structures :) )

[DeathStalker77]

Sorry. I haven't a clue why you are getting it. But, the fact that I'm not getting any other similar reports leads me to believe it is something particular to your system.

Try deleting (or temporarily renaming) the BDREBUILDER.INI file and see what effect that has.

Even with a ONE letter path, it is still generating the same error. Deleting the INI, it is still generating the same error, and setting BDRB to not do ANY reduction results in the same error :(

Also, I do have Haali and ffdshow installed - and they are running when BDRB runs, if that is of any help.

[DeathStalker77]

FWIW, here are the 2 INIs - 1st from the BDRB main directory, the 2nd from the job directory -

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.24
ENCODER=0
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\TEMP\M\
WORKING_PATH=C:\TEMP\M\NEW\
=================
[Status]
LABEL=M
VERSION=v0.50.25
SOURCE_SIZE=31613603817
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=31302899712
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.777270863685282
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=3
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00000]
AUDIO=111
PGS=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=23555272669
RATE=26457
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=296641244
NSIZE=22893238272
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00045]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=290033611
RATE=13720
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33668537
NSIZE=270723072
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00080]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=485525615
RATE=26978
SPLITS=1
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32677547
NSIZE=446490624
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

And here is the log -
----------------------
[02/26/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[15:50:19] Source: M
- Input BD size: 29.44 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:45:50.594]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=448
[15:50:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:50:19] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 3)
- [15:50:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:53:00] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 143,665 frames
- Bitrate: 26,457 Kbs
- [15:53:00] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:20:13] Video Encode complete
- [16:20:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [16:20:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:21:39] Processing: VID_00045 (2 of 3)
- [16:21:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [16:21:45] Reencoding video [VID_00045]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,553 frames
- Bitrate: 13,720 Kbs
- [16:21:45] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:22:21] Video Encode complete
- [16:22:21] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [16:22:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:22:25] Processing: VID_00080 (3 of 3)
- [16:22:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00080]
- [16:22:31] Reencoding video [VID_00080]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,025 frames
- Bitrate: 26,978 Kbs
- [16:22:31] Reencoding: VID_00080, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:23:05] Video Encode complete
- [16:23:05] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [16:23:05] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:23:09]PHASE ONE complete
[16:23:09]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:23:09] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [16:23:10] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:32:58] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:32:59] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:32:59] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:00] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:00] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:00] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:00] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:01] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:01] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:01] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:01] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:02] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:02] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:02] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
[16:33:02] - Aborted per user request

[DeathStalker77]

Just getting this with more & more titles, no matter what the folder name :( Nothing's changed on my system except adding ffmpg and Haali Splitter :(

[jdobbs]

Just getting this with more & more titles, no matter what the folder name :( Nothing's changed on my system except adding ffmpg and Haali Splitter :(Something is wrong -- and I'm confident it isn't BD-RB. Otherwise I'd have 20 or more other people reporting it as well.

[DeathStalker77]

So I have no clue as to how to go about troubleshooting this :( I'll try running it on another system for the heck of it.

[DeathStalker77]

Something is wrong -- and I'm confident it isn't BD-RB. Otherwise I'd have 20 or more other people reporting it as well.

Ok, I just tried one of the same titles on a clean system that has never been used for anything but web surfing, and got the same error. :(

[worknstiff]

[@ DeathStalker77 RE: I got the same error.

I have noticed that you haven't posted an (Inspect) log, which is where I ALLWAYS start when I have any problems. It may show you some problem that's not obvious. Also I don't guess it makes any difference BUT I always use a different "Source" and "Working" drive. I find it doesn't bog my CPU down as much when it's reading and writing to the same one. I don't guess you're running any VM's or network drives are you?

[DeathStalker77]

[@ DeathStalker77 RE: I got the same error.

I have noticed that you haven't posted an (Inspect) log, which is where I ALLWAYS start when I have any problems. It may show you some problem that's not obvious. Also I don't guess it makes any difference BUT I always use a different "Source" and "Working" drive. I find it doesn't bog my CPU down as much when it's reading and writing to the same one. I don't guess you're running any VM's or network drives are you?

FWIW, this is on an X99 system 6750k, 64gb RAM, and an SSD.

No, no VMs running. I've not seen an INSPECT log file - if you mean the BD-REBUILDER.LOG file, I did post that -

----------------------
[02/26/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[15:50:19] Source: M
- Input BD size: 29.44 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:45:50.594]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=448
[15:50:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:50:19] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 3)
- [15:50:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:53:00] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 143,665 frames
- Bitrate: 26,457 Kbs
- [15:53:00] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:20:13] Video Encode complete
- [16:20:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [16:20:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:21:39] Processing: VID_00045 (2 of 3)
- [16:21:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [16:21:45] Reencoding video [VID_00045]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,553 frames
- Bitrate: 13,720 Kbs
- [16:21:45] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:22:21] Video Encode complete
- [16:22:21] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [16:22:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:22:25] Processing: VID_00080 (3 of 3)
- [16:22:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00080]
- [16:22:31] Reencoding video [VID_00080]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,025 frames
- Bitrate: 26,978 Kbs
- [16:22:31] Reencoding: VID_00080, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:23:05] Video Encode complete
- [16:23:05] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [16:23:05] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:23:09]PHASE ONE complete
[16:23:09]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:23:09] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [16:23:10] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:32:58] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:32:59] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:32:59] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:00] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:00] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:00] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:00] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:01] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:01] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:01] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:01] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:02] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:02] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [16:33:02] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
[16:33:02] - Aborted per user request

[jdobbs]

FWIW, this is on an X99 system 6750k, 64gb RAM, and an SSD.

No, no VMs running. I've not seen an INSPECT log file - if you mean the BD-REBUILDER.LOG file, I did post that -

---------------------- Click on "Help/Inspect (Show Settings)"

It could be a hidden folder with a bad name on the disc, maybe?

[DeathStalker77]

[03/01/18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 153.18GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.1.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 4532, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[03/01/18] Systems Settings Check complete

Interesting that AVISYNTH and HAALI say they aren't the recommended versions, as they are the official versions from the websites. Anything I can try? :)

*I'll check for hidden folders.
=========
Nope, checked and no hidden folders, no odd named folders - just what one would normally expect :(

[jdobbs]

[03/01/18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 153.18GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.1.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 4532, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[03/01/18] Systems Settings Check complete

Interesting that AVISYNTH and HAALI say they aren't the recommended versions, as they are the official versions from the websites. Anything I can try? :)

*I'll check for hidden folders.
=========
Nope, checked and no hidden folders, no odd named folders - just what one would normally expect :(Yes. Read the first post of this thread... and download the correct versions. I doubt that has anything to do with your problem, though. But you never know.

CopyDirStructure() is a very simple routine consisting of 33 lines of code. It simply steps through the folder structure on the source and re-creates it on the destination. Somewhere in that process a path is presented that kicks off that error. The error isn't coming from BD-RB, it is coming from the operating system. BD-RB is only reporting it. It's possible that the path may be too long, as well as having bad characters in it. You'd have to look through the source structure to find out.

[DeathStalker77]

Yes. Read the first post of this thread... and download the correct versions. I doubt that has anything to do with your problem, though. But you never know.

CopyDirStructure() is a very simple routine consisting of 33 lines of code. It simply steps through the folder structure on the source and re-creates it on the destination. Somewhere in that process a path is presented that kicks off that error. The error isn't coming from BD-RB, it is coming from the operating system. BD-RB is only reporting it. It's possible that the path may be too long, as well as having bad characters in it. You'd have to look through the source structure to find out.

Ok, ffddshow has a lot of options to select when installing it - just take the default ones? Or are there specifics (some are not selected). Thanks!

[Ch3vr0n]

That's not what he's saying. REad the first post. You're using helper tool versions that are NOT the versions specified in the first post. Your settings arent the problem at this point, your tool versions are. Once you fix that, then you can move on to proper configuration. Also stated in the first post

[DeathStalker77]

That's not what he's saying. REad the first post. You're using helper tool versions that are NOT the versions specified in the first post. Your settings arent the problem at this point, your tool versions are. Once you fix that, then you can move on to proper configuration. Also stated in the first post

Yes, I understood that - I uninstalled THOSE versions and installed the versions form the links in the first post :)

[DeathStalker77]

Well holy cr@p! THAT did the trick!!!! YAAAAYYYY!!!! :) Happy Happy Joy Joy!!!!

[spotswood]

Hey guys... experiencing a weird anomaly w/BDRB. The settings I have chosen in setup don't match what settings BDRB is using (according to the log) when running a job. I tried attaching a couple pics showing my settings but I'm unable to. I've tried re-downloading/uninstalling/reinstalling BDRB, Avisynth and LAV filters but the problem persists. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Settings below...

For this job I've selected in settings:
Mode: Movie/menus, Edit Mode (manual blanking)
Output Options: BD9
Encoder Settings: Idle Priority, High Quality (Default) - only options selected
Decoding/Frame Serving: Use x264's internal LAVF
General Encoding: Remove Workfiles, Remove Output, Keep BDMV/Certificate folders, Beep at job completion
Audio Encoding: Do not reencode AC3

But the log shows:
----------------------
[03/01/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[13:53:06] Source: STRIPES
- Input BD size: 39.92 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:15:58.403]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:53:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:53:06] Blanking: VID_00002 (1 of 98)
- [13:53:06] Processing: VID_00010 (2 of 98)
- [13:53:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [13:53:11] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 346 frames
- Bitrate: 1,846 Kbs
- [13:53:11] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:53:15] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
[13:53:19]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
[03/01/18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Working Path Free Space: 185.62GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[03/01/18] Systems Settings Check complete

Here's the ini:
Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.24 (it shows this version in 0.50.0.25)
ENCODER=0
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=2
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=1
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=1800
MULTIPROCESS=1
BEEP_SOUNDFILE=C:\Windows\Media\tada.wav
[Paths]
DGIndexNV=C:\Users\eM\Downloads\BD_Rebuilder\dgdecnv2053\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Users\eM\Downloads\BD_Rebuilder\dgdecnv2053\DGDecodeNV.dll
SOURCE_PATH=K:\
WORKING_PATH=E:\STRIPES\

[worknstiff]

@ spotswood; RE: Hey guys... experiencing a weird anomaly w/BDRB. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Settings below...

But the log shows: - MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode


I always thought you could only get FRIM to kick in when processing a 3D movie, and I don't think Stripes is a 3D. Wonder if the hidden option for 3D is enabled somehow?

[jdobbs]

You can only get "MVC 3D Output Mode enabled" if the 3D flag is flagged in the "index.bdmv" file.

[spotswood]

You can only get "MVC 3D Output Mode enabled" if the 3D flag is flagged in the "index.bdmv" file.Well Stripes is definitely not a 3D movie, although I wish the mud wrestling scene was!

I did notice though when opening the disc.inf file that anydvd generates it says 3D=1, so I assumed that was what was causing the weird settings. Not having an .iso editing program, I copied the contents to a folder, edited the disc.inf to 3D=0, loaded the folder into BDRB and tried again. No luck, same thing. If you're saying BDRB is reading the 3D flag from the index.bdmv, then I guess I could try BDedit.

Then I remembered the option "process 3D movies as 2D" in settings. Checked that option, loaded the movie and voila, back to normal. Weird disc I guess, easy workaround though thanks to BDRB. Thanks for the help... ;^)

[Blurayhd]

Hi Jdobbs I don´t know why on some Bluray encodings I get this message? sorry guys the screen capture is in Spanish (my first language)


http://img.fenixzone.net/i/TE9CWRa.jpeg


And this is the log



So I don´t know what is wrong and how to get a solution?

I hope im doing well posting image and log

There´s nothing I can do about it, you say the most probably is overclocking problem and that is curious you know? because I never do any overclock

Just for make sure, few days ago I tried the same with another computer, same Windows 10, 8gb ddr3, etc and I get the same problem:scared:

So, I tried today with another movie and get the same.

Dear Jdobbs could the problem be another thing than overclock?

Could the problem be this last release? (please dont get me wrong)

I was thinking about formating and reinstall Windows but Like I said I tried on another computer and get the same

I will be so grateful to anyone who can help me with this

ps: I forgot to comment, if I try encode with another tool I have not problems (again Jdobbs dont get my wrong, I love Bd rebuilder and your work and is just for that I asking help)

[gonca]

It's not a BD_RB issue
X264 is crashing for some reason
Heat is a common reason
What are your temperatures like?

[Blurayhd]

It's not a BD_RB issue
X264 is crashing for some reason
Heat is a common reason
What are your temperatures like?

Thank you for helping me and how can I do for know?

[gonca]

Thank you for helping me and how can I do for know?

http://download.cpuid.com/hwmonitor/hwmonitor_1.34.zip

[sparkyar]

Thank you for helping me and how can I do for know?

the few times that x264 crashes on my pc, it´s because:

1- I ran out of RAM memory (I usually open 100+ tabs in browsers)
2- I ran out of virtual memory (when the disk partition where I set up the pagefile.sys is totally full)
3- too many hardware resources being used (many programs running in the background)

Try loosening the latency timings to see if it gets better... or maybe you have a faulty RAM stick...

[Blurayhd]

the few times that x264 crashes on my pc, it´s because:

1- I ran out of RAM memory (I usually open 100+ tabs in browsers)
2- I ran out of virtual memory (when the disk partition where I set up the pagefile.sys is totally full)
3- too many hardware resources being used (many programs running in the background)

Try loosening the latency timings to see if it gets better... or maybe you have a faulty RAM stick...

Could the problem be because on the drive C I have no more than maybe 3gb free space? I have many drives and where I use for encoding I have no less than 110gb free.

I never had a problem, like I said I tried with another computer and get the same error. Just por know,what about if I back to previous release?

there´s nothing to do about it, I tried uninstalling some applications I get 8gb on the Windows drive and nothing, it stops with that error at xx percent.

The watercooling is perfect, It is clean of all, I have 32gb, I never have a problem. Because that I am so worry!!

I´ll tryng re instaliing Bd rebuilder, avysint etc

[jdobbs]

You REALLY need to look at your temperatures. If you don't you can't assume "the watercooling is perfect". Saying other applications run fine is missing the point. X264 stresses your processor like no other application.

Overheating is the most common reason for an X264 crash -- but it could be memory as well. Have you tried reseating your memory? Looked to see that it is getting plenty of airflow?

Download the hardware monitor as suggested by gonca. At least then you could eliminate or confirm an overheating problem.

[Blurayhd]

You REALLY need to look at your temperatures. If you don't you can't assume "the watercooling is perfect". Saying other applications run fine is missing the point. X264 stresses your processor like no other application.

Overheating is the most common reason for an X264 crash -- but it could be memory as well. Have you tried reseating your memory? Looked to see that it is getting plenty of airflow?

Download the hardware monitor as suggested by gonca. At least then you could eliminate or confirm an overheating problem.

Thank you Jdobbs this was the temperatures while I encode the last rip

http://img.fenixzone.net/i/dqv1aBi.jpeg

The last rip was perfect, all I did was eliminate all about Bd rebuilder and avisynt, etc and install again

Again, thank you buddy

[rogress]

I've been using BD Rebuilder for years, but have suddenly started getting Failed to retrieve audio errors. Below are a couple of logs.
Any suggestions?


[03/01/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[18:32:13] Source: ATOMIC_BLONDE_00800
- Input BD size: 33.24 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:44.294]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:32:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:32:14] Processing: VID_00246 (1 of 1)
- [18:32:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00246]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[18:37:18] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
[03/02/18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 2.99GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[03/02/18] Systems Settings Check complete
----------------------
[03/05/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[17:26:17] Source: CENTRAL_INTELLIGENCE_00100
- Input BD size: 25.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:47:37.701]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:26:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:26:17] Processing: VID_00052 (1 of 1)
- [17:26:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00052]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
-
[17:30:10] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[jdobbs]

[03/02/18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 2.99GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[03/02/18] Systems Settings Check complete
It appears you are running out of space on your working path. You need a lot more than 2.99GB.

[Blurayhd]

Hi all hi Jdobbs I dont know if here is the right site site for posting it, if not, I really please apolognize to me Jdobbs, O dont have any bad intention, so, if the right, I´m checking my Bluray disc collection and some of them when I tryng to pass to hard disc with IMGburn, when is loading the disc I can notice that turns hard for IMGburn to load the disc and when I eject the disc I get this message

http://img.fenixzone.net/i/UsCdLPc.jpeg

Is the disc protected? but can I copy it to hard disc? if do so what application does? I dont know what is happening

Thank you in advance!!

[SquallMX]

Hi all hi Jdobbs I dont know if here is the right site site for posting it, if not, I really please apolognize to me Jdobbs, O dont have any bad intention, so, if the right, I´m checking my Bluray disc collection and some of them when I tryng to pass to hard disc with IMGburn, when is loading the disc I can notice that turns hard for IMGburn to load the disc and when I eject the disc I get this message

http://img.fenixzone.net/i/UsCdLPc.jpeg

Is the disc protected? but can I copy it to hard disc? if do so what application does? I dont know what is happening

Thank you in advance!!

You will need a ripping software like AnyDVD, DVDFab or MakeMKV.

[Blurayhd]

You will need a ripping software like AnyDVD, DVDFab or MakeMKV.

First I want to thank youo for helping me, when I tried to load the disc with IMGburn it says "Getting media status" and try to read but just stays at that point.

You mean that is for protection problem? I mean, the disc is perfect?

And, if you dont mean of course, could you tell me how to do it with Makemkv?

[jdobbs]

First I want to thank youo for helping me, when I tried to load the disc with IMGburn it says "Getting media status" and try to read but just stays at that point.

You mean that is for protection problem? I mean, the disc is perfect?

And, if you dont mean of course, could you tell me how to do it with Makemkv?Please take this discussion elsewhere. It isn’t appropriate for this thread. Perhaps the Doom9 “Decrypting” forum.

[Blurayhd]

Please take this discussion elsewhere. It isn’t appropriate for this thread. Perhaps the Doom9 “Decrypting” forum.

Hi Jdobbs and thank you and please excuse me I had no idea

[Blurayhd]

Jdobbs this questions come to my mind since and as we know you´re about to release a new Bd rebuilder with option like import from an UHD and encode it to a Full HD 1920x1080. few hours ago I get the chance to watch (on my monitor, not 4k) how is like and UHD movie, and the example was The Mummy 1999, and, I think the UHD was a little more detailed? maybe is just me I still dont get clear so far if the UHD is really much better than Full hd?, I mean, on my tv 55 at home we watch movies that encode with Bd rebuilder or some MKV and I´m surprise for the quality. But I wish to know, if I download any movie in UHD, and encode it to full hd with Bd rebuilder , the quality will be much better than if I encode it from the same movie but BD50?

I really hope you can understand

Dear Jdobbs, thank you for your pacience

[Ch3vr0n]

But I wish to know, if I download any movie in UHD, and encode it to full hd with Bd rebuilder , the quality will be much better than if I encode it from the same movie but BD50?

And i wish to know if you can read the forum rules. Especially number 6. Downloading a movie is illegal and nobody can/should/will help you answer that question. The only one that can will be you.

Besides, you're comparing DISC CAPACITY (BD25/BD50) with screen resolution (480p/720p/1080p...). Those 2 arent even remotely connected. Just a BD25 can be full HD (1080p), just the same as a BD50 can.

If you want to get an answer on your question, it's not going to come from me.

[Blurayhd]

And i wish to know if you can read the forum rules. Especially number 6. Downloading a movie is illegal and nobody can/should/will help you answer that question. The only one that can will be you.

Besides, you're comparing DISC CAPACITY (BD25/BD50) with screen resolution (480p/720p/1080p...). Those 2 arent even remotely connected. Just a BD25 can be full HD (1080p), just the same as a BD50 can.

If you want to get an answer on your question, it's not going to come from me.

All right Ch3vr0n, I do undestand and thank you

[drmih]

It would be slightly futile to take a UHD disk and convert it to HD - just buy a disk mastered at HD, as I'm guessing more and more will use a 4K scan. However, the benefit of the new feature is to be able to backup UHD disks to either bd-25 or bd-50. So far if you want to keep a copy you would have to use a HDD (and then it's not easy to play unless you have a powerful pc to feed your tv), or try and use bd-xl disks, which can be problematic and are expensive to the point where you could nearly buy a second copy of the disk. If you can compress the video, or lose enough of the audio to fit a bd-50, then you have a safe copy for a reasonable price.

[jdobbs]

Also... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So whether 4K is really noticably better in typical usage, or if the increased resolution is worth the considerable additional effort, is a question each person could only answer for him or herself.

[gonca]

Also... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So whether 4K is really noticably better in typical usage, or if the increased resolution is worth the considerable additional effort, is a question each person could only answer for him or herself.

My experience is that the increased resolution requires a rather large screen to make use of the extra detail
However, the HDR is definitely worth it
Note
You can always resize to 1080p and keep the HDR

[Sharc]

Also... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So whether 4K is really noticably better in typical usage, or if the increased resolution is worth the considerable additional effort, is a question each person could only answer for him or herself.
It seems to me that video is following the audio route: Blowing up the bandwidth and processing complexity for little real benefit. Saturation of a mature technology?
High resolutions makes sense though in photography when one can zoom-in for details and make new pictures from image sections, for example.

Perhaps just an intermediate step towards real, goggles-free 3D viewing?

[kufo]

It seems to me that video is following the audio route: Blowing up the bandwidth and processing complexity for little real benefit. Saturation of a mature technology?
High resolutions makes sense though in photography when one can zoom-in for details and make new pictures from image sections, for example.

Perhaps just an intermediate step towards real, goggles-free 3D viewing?

An intermediate step to 8K? I think the details will be phantastic :D, but we hve to wait. In europe there will be no 8K untill the end of this decade. Let´s see what 4K will bring when it has established itself.
Fake 4K nobody needs. A lot of 4K films are not as good as the inscription. Look here:https://echtes4k.net/echte-4k-filme/
We´ll have to wait until jdobbs has the audio / video synchronization under control.
I hope this will be soon:thanks:

[Sharc]

The source is a 3D frame packed .mkv from MakeMKV. MediaInfo reports the duration of the ripped video correctly with 2:43 hours.
After importing the file with BD-RB, MediaInfo reports the duration of the imported file as 5:26, i.e. double.
When encoding the imported file in 2-pass mode for BD25 target with the option "encode 3D as 2D" the bitrate gets halved and the disc is half full only.
The BD-RB log reports the length of the imported video as 470'267 frames, which is the sum of the left + right eye frames.
I think this is a bug.

Edit:
Oh sorry, I just remembered that I reported a similar issue here (https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1826554&postcount=1815) which you replied to.

[AmigaFuture]

Hello JD,

I'm returning to my Stargate SG-1 DVD to Blu-ray conversion. Then I noticed this again. It also happens with the current version but since there isn't an update, I have to use this version to keep the 4:3 Widescreen in tact--otherwise the newest version still smooshes the video into a funky 4:3. Anyway, any idea why this is happening?

The destination has GB's full of space, and it not located on my System drive. Fully accessible and I write to it often, so.. Any possibility of 2 bugs being fixed? Smiling. Click okay, and BD-RB exits. Run BD-RB again, import and all is fine until...(possible) next time.

[jdobbs]

Hello JD,

I'm returning to my Stargate SG-1 DVD to Blu-ray conversion. Then I noticed this again. It also happens with the current version but since there isn't an update, I have to use this version to keep the 4:3 Widescreen in tact--otherwise the newest version still smooshes the video into a funky 4:3. Anyway, any idea why this is happening?

The destination has GB's full of space, and it not located on my System drive. Fully accessible and I write to it often, so.. Any possibility of 2 bugs being fixed? Smiling. Click okay, and BD-RB exits. Run BD-RB again, import and all is fine until...(possible) next time.Sounds like an issue with your anti-virus software. But it could be that your current environment doesn't have access (permission) to a file.

With that said -- I generally don't respond to bug reports in older versions, regardless of the reason. That release is over a year and a half out-of-date. I have no idea what "smooshes the video into a funky 4:3" means -- have you reported that before?

[AmigaFuture]

Indeed, reported before.

Normal picture is before processing with BD-RB (Current version).

When importing and converting VFR to CFR it becomes smooshed. Once I use "IMPORT_VFR_DISABLE=1" it isn't...of course.

Once imported without conversion and using Alternate MKV it becomes "smooshed". This is what I call smooshing and I've heard others say it for years. Haha. This is why I'm still using the older version for this process....I don't want to, but you seemed pretty busy for a while. :)

Hmmm...I'll check if Security software now...

[AmigaFuture]

Disabled Avast's Self-Protect and then disabled it with MSConfig; totally. After several imports (more than 8) in a row the Run-time error 70 shows again. Avast isn't running at all (Task Manager). But I'm going to check other software now. I would agree about permissions if it would happen much more frequently. I know luck does not exit, so I won't blame a silly notion of bad luck. Ha! I would also point to permissions if all other projects did not function well, but it's only with importing...so far. More checking..

[Lathe]

I have no idea what "smooshes the video into a funky 4:3" means -- have you reported that before?

I would be happy to translate for AF for you JD. I speak Jive...

[AmigaFuture]

Lathe, 'sup, man, whatchu mean, you jive turkey!

Muhaha!

[AmigaFuture]

Looks like I found the error problem. It wasn't security related (Avast!).. It seems like Directory Opus was getting in the way somehow. Avast is re-enabled but I don't have Directory Opus running or it's helper that's running at boot time. So far, 0 problems with importing with current BD-RB version and older... I'll keep importing for a bit more but after ~15 time it usually would cause an error, but now the count is at 30 imports and 0 error prompts. Cheering.

Hmm...shall have to check what's happening with DOpus...I won't be without it. Great file manager over...Explorer.

[jdobbs]

Just a note. At least while viewing on my iPad, the first two of your attachments (smoosh examples) look the same. We’re they supposed to? Which mean what?

[AmigaFuture]

No... Not sure why. But the 3rd is the one really in question, that's after the Alternate MKV. Hmm..

Update: Welllll....that was premature. Like Lathe... It's not Directory Opus... More checking to do.

[jdobbs]

No... Not sure why. But the 3rd is the one really in question, that's after the Alternate MKV. Hmm..

Update: Welllll....that was premature. Like Lathe... It's not Directory Opus... More checking to do.Are you importing from DVD or from an MKV/AVI/MP4? I assume it's the latter?

[AmigaFuture]

Using VideoReDo to extract the VOB stuff so it's easier to keep the DVD Text Subtitles and extract from MPG after with CCExtractor. So, convert an episode to MPG from VOB. Then have BD-RB import the MPG. Then add the SRT to the MKV made by BD-RB. THEN...have BD-RB import the MKVs for a season all at once (multiple MKVs).

Update: It's not Directory Opus as the error showed even without any of DOpus running. Still checking.

[Lathe]

Update: Welllll....that was premature. Like Lathe... It's not Directory Opus... More checking to do.

Uh, I think the word you want is 'Immature'... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif

Premature... well, you must be thinking of gonca...

[AmigaFuture]

Word is as intended.

[Sharc]

Uh, I think the word you want is 'Immature'...

Premature... well, you must be thinking of gonca...


Using VideoReDo to extract the VOB stuff so it's easier to keep the DVD Text Subtitles and extract from MPG after with CCExtractor. So, convert an episode to MPG from VOB. Then have BD-RB import the MPG. Then add the SRT to the MKV made by BD-RB. THEN...have BD-RB import the MKVs for a season all at once (multiple MKVs).
Neither immature nor premature. That's usually called preprocessed (crap) :eek:

[AmigaFuture]

@Sharc

For Lathe, it was a joke relying on much earlier stuff. I didn't want to get very deep into it, haha, so I used 1 word. As for VideoReDo -- your double entendre. It's not a Blu-ray & hasn't been rerendered. VideoReDo does quick rerenders on joined parts where commercials have been removed. In this case, not any commercials but I didn't want to edit with DVDRemakePro which I bought long ago and edit the episodes that way, it's a much more lengthy process that way. Besides, using VideoReDo allows for much quicker edits and keeping Closed Captions where as importing with BD-RB direct from DVD doesn't (only Vobsub). VideoReDo doesn't do full rerendering by default, does it's best to keep things original.

Update: Keeping with checking the simple solutions first, I'm checking with the newest portable pack of MKVMerge and MKVExtract. So far, with DOpus running as well as Avast! all is going well. Also keeping a watch in the TEMPIMPORT as well as Task Manager. So far at 50 imports of MPGs and some TSs. As well as to when TEMPIMPORT is deleted.

The permission error hasn't been displayed since I've been checking the newer MKV exe's...so far.

[gonca]

For Lathe, it was a statement of fact relying on much earlier stuff
Be nice to Lathe :rolleyes:

[Lathe]

Be nice to Lathe :rolleyes:

Uh oh... now I'm getting nervous... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/w00t.gif

[AmigaFuture]

Update: The picture is "smooshed" on the sides by all encoders except 1 and 4; DirectshowSource and FIRM. However, FIRM makes it smooshed and very long. Looks really funny! IVTC is being used all around. So, I'll do some more encodes and it looks like I'll stick with this version and DirectShow for now.

A nice plus, is I forgot that you make BD-RB add .SRT if found outside the container of same name. So I'll change a step which will be sweet. I'm glad they're not just burned into video.

Update: Well, well.... The error just showed again. During the import creation of MKV...at the end.

[14:31:12] Importing: STARGATE_SG-1_DVD_SEASONS
- [14:31:22] Importing video file: (1 of 9)
- Preparing MPG for processing...

[kufo]

Hello jdobbs! Do not think, I would not be patient .... :rolleyes: I just wanted to ask if there is something new in the 4K project. The last information was that the video and audio were out of sync. Are you on the track of the mistake?
When I read in other forums, I see that everyone is struggling with similar problems.
Either there is no menu, or the program freezes. No good news. I firmly believe that you can do it!:thanks:

[Lathe]

Hello jdobbs! Do not think, I would not be patient .... :rolleyes: I just wanted to ask if there is something new in the 4K project. The last information was that the video and audio were out of sync. Are you on the track of the mistake?
When I read in other forums, I see that everyone is struggling with similar problems.
Either there is no menu, or the program freezes. No good news. I firmly believe that you can do it!:thanks:

Yeah, you better kiss up to the Boss if you know what's good for you... His hearing may be shot because of all the tours in 'Nam (or was it WWII...?) but his reach is formidable, he knows people...

(Oh... I just realized that the people he knows are us... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/ehh.gif )

[kufo]

Yeah, you better kiss up to the Boss if you know what's good for you... His hearing may be shot because of all the tours in 'Nam (or was it WWII...?) but his reach is formidable, he knows people...

(Oh... I just realized that the people he knows are us... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/ehh.gif )

You're probably a true connoisseur I'm very impressed. :rolleyes:Or do you want to saw something on the chair of the boss ...:cool:

[Lathe]

you're probably a true connoisseur i'm very impressed. :rolleyes:or do you want to saw something on the chair of the boss ...:cool: .


:)

[jdobbs]

Hello jdobbs! Do not think, I would not be patient .... :rolleyes: I just wanted to ask if there is something new in the 4K project. The last information was that the video and audio were out of sync. Are you on the track of the mistake?
When I read in other forums, I see that everyone is struggling with similar problems.
Either there is no menu, or the program freezes. No good news. I firmly believe that you can do it!:thanks:The first instance of that issue was fixed. But then I found another sync problem. That one was fixed (but only kinda'). I've found that I can't get TSMUXER to properly mux an X265 stream that has closed GOPs. When it does, it is way out of sync. So I used open GOPs... unfortunately, though, something happens that causes the video to start/stop at about halfway through the movie when I use that stream. If you mux just the video it plays back fine -- but for some reason it doesn't work properly when I keep the audio too. Interestingly, the original stream muxes and plays fine with or without audio when muxed by TSMUXER. So it has something to do with the new stream created by X265... it could be a setting, but I've been going through virtually every possible iteration of settings with X265 and haven't found a magic bullet yet.

Honestly I've been close to tearing my hair out a few times... I guess I need to find another HEVC encoder just to see if it is TSMUXER, or X265, or the settings that is/are at fault. But since the orginal stream seems to work fine, I suspect X265 or its settings to be the issue (or at least it's interaction with TSMUXER).

[kufo]

The first instance of that issue was fixed. But then I found another sync problem. That one was fixed (but only kinda'). I've found that I can't get TSMUXER to properly mux an X265 stream that has closed GOPs. When it does, it is way out of sync. So I used open GOPs... unfortunately, though, something happens that causes the video to start/stop at about halfway through the movie when I use that stream. If you mux just the video it plays back fine -- but for some reason it doesn't work properly when I keep the audio too. Interestingly, the original stream muxes and plays fine with or without audio when muxed by TSMUXER. So it has something to do with the new stream created by X265... it could be a setting, but I've been going through virtually every possible iteration of settings with X265 and haven't found a magic bullet yet.

Honestly I've been close to tearing my hair out a few times... I guess I need to find another HEVC encoder just to see if it is TSMUXER, or X265, or the settings that is/are at fault. But since the orginal stream seems to work fine, I suspect X265 or its settings to be the issue (or at least it's interaction with TSMUXER).

Hello jdobbs! Thank you for your prompt reply. I had already thought of X265 because I still had the X264 error in the back of my mind. You may remember it. I had X264 from an old BD Rebuilder version inserted and the error was gone. Maybe an older version of X265 is better compatible with TSMUXER?
It would be worth a try, I think.

[thecrowler]

Hi jdobbs, first of all, thanks for BD Rebuilder.
I've read that you're considering a version of BD Rebuilder that can handle 4K UHD Blu-Rays.
Hope not to go OT with the following question.
Since in BD Rebuilder Beta v0.50.25 it's possible to import individual files (for example, ".mkv") and then create a bd-structure (and vice versa), I can imagine that, in the next version, it will also be possible to import mkv files with h265 video stream, and to convert the video stream to x264.
This is already possible usin' other softwares, of course, but I noticed a problem with the color space management (h265 "BT.2020" 10-bit vs x264 "BT.709" 8-bit).
In particular, when encoding to x264 8-bit, colors are completely different from the source colors (h265), they look "washed out".
This happens even if the hardware is natively made to manage h265 BT.2020, 10-bit (Monitor 4k and GPU of recent generation).
Who does not own a 4k hardware/monitor, generally, adopt some kind of software solutions to correct the display color problem.
But, when encoding, those wrong colors become the native colors of the new file, and that's the problem.
Have you found any way to correctly convert the BT.2020 10-bit color spaces (Blu-Ray UHD) into BT.709 8-bit (Blu-Ray video compliant standard)?
Kind regards. :)

[kufo]

Has anyone ever noticed if there is a difference in 4K processing when reading from a mounted ISO? More specifically, are there any differences between reading a disc and a mounted file in terms of image and sound synchronization? Probably the question can only be answered by jdobbs.

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs, first of all, thanks for BD Rebuilder.
I've read that you're considering a version of BD Rebuilder that can handle 4K UHD Blu-Rays.
Hope not to go OT with the following question.
Since in BD Rebuilder Beta v0.50.25 it's possible to import individual files (for example, ".mkv") and then create a bd-structure (and vice versa), I can imagine that, in the next version, it will also be possible to import mkv files with h265 video stream, and to convert the video stream to x264.
This is already possible usin' other softwares, of course, but I noticed a problem with the color space management (h265 "BT.2020" 10-bit vs x264 "BT.709" 8-bit).
In particular, when encoding to x264 8-bit, colors are completely different from the source colors (h265), they look "washed out".
This happens even if the hardware is natively made to manage h265 BT.2020, 10-bit (Monitor 4k and GPU of recent generation).
Who does not own a 4k hardware/monitor, generally, adopt some kind of software solutions to correct the display color problem.
But, when encoding, those wrong colors become the native colors of the new file, and that's the problem.
Have you found any way to correctly convert the BT.2020 10-bit color spaces (Blu-Ray UHD) into BT.709 8-bit (Blu-Ray video compliant standard)?
Kind regards. :)HEVC encodes stay 10 bit even for BT.709. Below is a table from BD-ROM_Part3_V3.1_WhitePaper_160729 that can be downloaded online. I haven't given much thought to the conversion to AVC -- as it would be stepping backwards for no apparent reason (unless you wanted to downgrade to 1280p or 480/576 for some reason or are trying to convert for a non-UHD player).

[sneaker_ger]

Problem is HDR. Non-UHD Blu-Ray players need SDR so you need to tonemap. Methods are discussed in other parts of the forum, it's not a trivial topic:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1827927
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=174415
https://github.com/ifb/vapoursynth-tonemap

(That said, not all UHD Blu-Rays have to be HDR.)

[Sharc]

.... and more discussions are ongoing here:
http://rationalqm.us/board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=617&start=60

[thecrowler]

Problem is HDR. Non-UHD Blu-Ray players need SDR so you need to tonemap. Methods are discussed in other parts of the forum, it's not a trivial topic:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1827927
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=174415
https://github.com/ifb/vapoursynth-tonemap

(That said, not all UHD Blu-Rays have to be HDR.)

@sneaker_ger
Thank you for your answer.
I had read the discussion in the first link you mentioned a few days ago, and that's why I asked @jdobbs what was the solution found in the next beta release of BD Rebuilder.
What I have understood is that "tonemapping" is a manual, temporary solution and, in my judgment, wrong, because it is not based on a standard of conversion between different color profiles nor on a universal algorithm.
In theory, the tonemapping should be applied frame-by-frame, or some scene will always present wrong colors.
Thanks and kind regards.

[thecrowler]

I haven't given much thought to the conversion to AVC -- as it would be stepping backwards for no apparent reason (unless you wanted to downgrade to 1280p or 480/576 for some reason or are trying to convert for a non-UHD player).

@jdobbs
Thanks for your answer.
If I can afford to give you a suggestion, the reason, not apparent, to "step backwards", is the current situation.
The hardware needed for UHD content playback and/or store is too expensive and so will be for a long time.
The availability of UHD video streams is current, instead.
A software that can only store a Blu-Ray UHD structure, perhaps reducing the size of the video/audio tracks to conform to the standard dimensions of a BD-R(L), will be usefull just for fews.
Even actual solutions like Kodi-based hardware will have no benefit at all: they may use an HEVC/x265 .mkv/mp4 file, not a Blu-ray UHD compliant structure.
Talking about standard AVC Blu-Rays, the actual main goal of a software like BD Rebuilder beta, is to retain a BD structure and shrink it (burn, maybe): it's not just a software for simple conversions, like many others.
But a software solution that allows, in the same way, to manage the UHD Blu-Rays without being able to convert it to AVC standards (actual Blu-Ray structure), this one, seems to me rather useless, at least today.
It will be in the (next?) future, of course.
Kind regards.

[drmih]

@jdobbs
Thanks for your answer.
If I can afford to give you a suggestion, the reason, not apparent, to "step backwards", is the current situation.
The hardware needed for UHD content playback and/or store is too expensive and so will be for a long time.
The availability of UHD video streams is current, instead.
A software that can only store a Blu-Ray UHD structure, perhaps reducing the size of the video/audio tracks to conform to the standard dimensions of a BD-R(L), will be usefull just for fews.
Even actual solutions like Kodi-based hardware will have no benefit at all: they may use an HEVC/x265 .mkv/mp4 file, not a Blu-ray UHD compliant structure.
Talking about standard AVC Blu-Rays, the actual main goal of a software like BD Rebuilder beta, is to retain a BD structure and shrink it (burn, maybe): it's not just a software for simple conversions, like many others.
But a software solution that allows, in the same way, to manage the UHD Blu-Rays without being able to convert it to AVC standards (actual Blu-Ray structure), this one, seems to me rather useless, at least today.
It will be in the (next?) future, of course.
Kind regards.
An Xbox One S is a uhd player, and many modern tvs support 4k, so not that rare.

[thecrowler]

An Xbox One S is a uhd player, and many modern tvs support 4k, so not that rare.

@drmih
Yes man, and how are you gonna use a UHD Blu-Ray structure on a ($250/300) Xbox One S?
Are you gonna burn it with a UHD compliant Blu-Ray burner, that costs like your Xbox ($248.52) on a compliant UHD BD-R/RL disc, that doens't even exist?
Can u handle a full UHD Blu-Ray structure from within your Xbox HDD, or from an external USB drive, if u don't wanna/cannot burn it?
Is that "burner+Xbox One S" cheap enough and "not that rare", from your personal point of view (and, in general, is it)?
And what about 4k TVs, maybe you know one that is able to manage a full UHD Blu-Ray structure?
Or, perhaps, are they only able to read HEVC/x265 MKV/M2TS/MP4/AVI containers?
For both Xbox One S and 4k TVs, as I already wrote in my previous post, u should use an HEVC/x265 .mkv/m2ts/mp4 file, not a full UHD Blu-Ray structure, 'cause it's unsupported and so, useless...
And a simple conversion to x265 MKV or M2TS containers (that is not what BD Rebuilder is made for) can be done using any other simple software out there, like MeGUI, MakeMKV, Handbrake and so on.
So, what's the point of your answer? What does this have to do with my question?
Have u carefully read what I wrote?

[jdobbs]

A lot of incorrect assumptions there.

Are you gonna burn it with a UHD compliant Blu-Ray burner, that costs like your Xbox ($248.52) on a compliant UHD BD-R/RL disc, that doens't even exist?
Is that "burner+Xbox One S" cheap enough and "not that rare", from your personal point of view (and, in general, is it)?1. You just play it.
2. You don't need a UHD burner... BD-50 is 100% UHD compliant and discs are under $1.
3. Yes... you can burn to BD-50
4. Players are reasonably priced (under $200). Otherwise a poor person like me wouldn't have one for testing.
For both Xbox One S and 4k TVs, as I already wrote in my previous post, u should use an HEVC/x265 .mkv/m2ts/mp4 file, not a full UHD Blu-Ray structure, 'cause it's unsupported and so, useless...5. Completely incorrect -- and BD Rebuilder certainly is made for creating MKV etc... it's one of its most useful features and it does it automatically from a BD format (including combining multipart sources and letting you choose angles).

Unsupported? Where does that come from?

[thecrowler]

A lot of incorrect assumptions there.


1. You just play it.
2. You don't need a UHD burner... BD-50 is 100% UHD compliant and discs are under $1.
3. Yes... you can burn to BD-50
4. Players are reasonably priced (under $200). Otherwise a poor person like me wouldn't have one for testing.
5. Completely incorrect -- and BD Rebuilder certainly is made for creating MKV etc... it's one of its most useful features and it does it automatically from a BD format (including combining multipart sources and letting you choose angles).

Unsupported? Where does that come from?

"A lot of incorrect assumptions there": well, let's see.

1. "You just play it": well, how? I could only play it on a disk, if this were possible (and it's not), but neither from consolle HDD, nor from an external USB disk.
If u're assuming it's possible, "Xbox One S" manuals are online, please, prove your point, 'cause it's not mentioned anywere.
2. "BD-50 is 100% UHD compliant": this is an "incorrect assumption", 'cause readability will depend from player's hardware/firmware, like BD9 and BD5. NOT a standard, in any case.
You're confusing recordable media standards (BD-50 or BD-RL) and content standards (UHD compliant).
BD-R/RL/XL are BD recordable standards: no specifications are even been published for recordable medias with UHD content, atm, and you're assuming they are "compliant"?
The only published specifications are for UHD-BD.
The hardware of BD-XL compatible burners should read UHD-discs, if the FW allow it: but I'm talking about few XL burners, not about standalone players.
If u wish, find and read some other threads over the Internet, like I did. For example, related to UHD-BD and BD-R media standards:

https://club.myce.com/t/difference-between-bd-xl-and-uhd-blu-ray/399431/16

3. "Yes... you can burn to BD-50": burning on BD-R/RL/XL and reading it on a standalone player (or console), well, it's a different kind of story.
Some standalone players will (hopefully) play UHD BD folder structure, made usin' BD Rebuilder and burned on a BD-R/RL: some others, simply will NOT (and they are priced under $200).
I'm neither a beta-tester nor a software developer, I won't risk $200 for no guarantees.
I also doubt a console will ever play a UHD Blu-Ray structure burned on a BD-R/RL media.
Again, prove your point.
Last but not least, 4k TVs do not handle UHD Blu-Ray folders (structure), at all: if u find that hardware specific on a single TV manual or from any other source, let me know, I'll buy it.
Again, it's not mentioned anywhere, and despite that, you're saying the opposite, so it's up to you to prove that you're not speculating.
4. "Players are reasonably priced (under $200). Otherwise a poor person like me wouldn't have one for testing": I'm poorer than you, apparently. "I'm not a software developer" and points number "2" and "3", are my answers.
Riassuming: 4k TVs are not a choise, consoles won't play UHD content on BD-R medias, standalone players are priced under $200 and gave no guarantees at all (maybe in a future).
That's where "unsupported? Where does that come from?" comes from, and that's why a "step backwards" to AVC as option is needed, in my opinion.
5. "Completely incorrect -- and BD Rebuilder certainly is made for creating MKV ": I believe you're gonna sell BD Rebuilder, after the beta stage.
Considering all the free/commercial software for creating/ripping MKV/M2TS out there, if u believe that "it's one of its most useful features", well, good luck: as a potential customer, I can't say anything else.

[drmih]

Well you seem clueless but I'll answer. I have both an Xbox One S and a Panasonic 900 (so both ends of the UHD market). Both obviously play original disks perfectly and very impressive on a 4K tv with HDR. I have also ripped ISO images (and I believe there are currently 250 to 300 which have been done by others) and then used DVDFab (or CloneBD) to compress them to bd-50, or even bd-25. Any bd burner will do them (bd-25 are about 25p and bd-50 £1) and the compressed versions (actually many uhd disks will fit on bd-50 anyway once foreign languages are removed) play fine on both, with it nearly impossible to tell the difference between bd-66 compressed to bd-50.

[thecrowler]

Well you seem clueless but I'll answer. I have both an Xbox One S and a Panasonic 900 (so both ends of the UHD market). Both obviously play original disks perfectly and very impressive on a 4K tv with HDR. I have also ripped ISO images (and I believe there are currently 250 to 300 which have been done by others) and then used DVDFab (or CloneBD) to compress them to bd-50, or even bd-25. Any bd burner will do them (bd-25 are about 25p and bd-50 £1) and the compressed versions (actually many uhd disks will fit on bd-50 anyway once foreign languages are removed) play fine on both, with it nearly impossible to tell the difference between bd-66 compressed to bd-50.

Well, for sure, you are a big rude, instead, and I will not even answer you.

[jdobbs]

@thecrowler

You are completely wrong on virtually every point you made. Unfortunately it seems you are too uninformed to even carry on a discussion about this issue. I'm not going to waste my time any longer. Writing extremely long posts is the first sign that you are attempting to defend an indefensible position. Example:like BD9 and BD5. NOT a standard, in any case.Wrong... wrong... wrong... any UHD player is required by the standard to support this format. It is completely different from BD-5/9. If you were as informed as you pretend you'd know that. Maybe you should download some of the available free information (like "BD-ROM_Part3_V3.1_WhitePaper_160729") before you start making incorrect statements (especially with an attitude of authority).

Now here is where I stop this ridiculous waste of time: You are instructed (by me -- the moderator) to stop this discussion because it is off topic. Any more posts on this subject will result in strikes and possible loss of privileges on this site.

[MrVideo]

Well, for sure, you are a big rude, instead, and I will not even answer you.
There was absolutely nothing rude in drmih's posting.

[MrVideo]

It is completely different from BD-5/9.
BD5 and BD9 are different from BD-5 and BD-9? Damn, to me the only difference was a poster's use of the dash, or no dash. Color me confused. :o

UPDATE: I can't find any difference between the two (https://www.videosolo.com/tutorials/blu-ray-discs-type.html). It is interesting that UHD players are required to play them, while BD players are not (my Samsung won't).

According to wiki: As of March 2011, BD9 was removed as an official BD-ROM disc. (http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Assets/Downloadablefile/White_Paper_General_3rd_Dec%202012_20121210.pdf)

[Lathe]

BD5 and BD9 are different from BD-5 and BD-9? Damn, to me the only difference was a poster's use of the dash, or no dash. Color me confused. :o

. :rolleyes:

[MrVideo]

. :rolleyes:
I get the feeling that I misunderstood jdobbs post. :(

[jdobbs]

Please... let’s move on. Let’s try and stick to bug reports and observations about BD-RB, ok?

[AmigaFuture]

Right-O... JD, I know you've been busy..but I am curious if you looked into the rerenderers and were able to reproduce what I posted. Not in a hurry.

[Imperial Zeppelin]

Anyone else have A/V sync issues w/The Last Jedi??? It seems that the soundtracks lags a good second behind the video. I got a good, clean AnyDVD to ISO in that that ISO plays fine, but the BD-Rebuilder ISO has the lag.

Advice appreciated!!

[kufo]

@Imperial Zeppelin
The bug is not to look at BD Rebuilder. There is a problem with shrinking the file and a high quality sound track, e.g. Dolby athmos.
I have this problem with the UHD Deepwater Horizon. There is the delay about 3 seconds. Try to convert the soundtrack to AC3 5.1.
That could fix the problem already.

[Imperial Zeppelin]

@Imperial Zeppelin
The bug is not to look at BD Rebuilder. There is a problem with shrinking the file and a high quality sound track, e.g. Dolby athmos.
I have this problem with the UHD Deepwater Horizon. There is the delay about 3 seconds. Try to convert the soundtrack to AC3 5.1.
That could fix the problem already.

Thanks kufo, I tried again with ALL audio options unchecked in BD Rebuilder and there still was a delay, but not as much as before.

Any other ideas folks???

[slvrsrfr]

There are many discs where the M2TS sequencing doesn't match the order. BD Rebuilder does analysis to determine and present episodes in the proper order wherever it can -- such as using "Play All" playlist ordering, or the order they are found in navigation command lists. It does similar analysis on DVD imports. No algorithm is perfect -- but it does pretty well.

Episodes don't have to be in a single M2TS for BD-RB, it constructs them into one when it imports.

That certainly isn't true with a BD-RB import (as opposed to a traditional "rip"). You have to create a new menu, new playlists, and even reconstruct the M2TS when they are segmented. It's even more true when importing from DVD to BD format. BD-RB also can combine multiple discs into a single structure.


I've imported 4 DVDs of season 1 of Jessica Jones to BD, but the 13 episodes are sequenced out of order from how they were on the DVDs. For example, the 2nd episode on the menu after importing is actually the third one from the DVD. Can this still be an issue? I found the post above, but didn't come across a newer post that might have indicated how to resolve this

Any suggestions appreciated.

[gonca]

.... and more discussions are ongoing here:
http://rationalqm.us/board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=617&start=60

Some good advancements made so far

[jdobbs]

I've imported 4 DVDs of season 1 of Jessica Jones to BD, but the 13 episodes are sequenced out of order from how they were on the DVDs. For example, the 2nd episode on the menu after importing is actually the third one from the DVD. Can this still be an issue? I found the post above, but didn't come across a newer post that might have indicated how to resolve this

Any suggestions appreciated.It all depends on the authoring. The best that BD-RB can do is make a best guess as to the ordering. Some discs have no rhyme or reason as to the order -- and in those cases it's up to you to reorder them (from the import menu).

The only way to get around this would be for me to write an interpreter for the instruction sequence in the DVD -- and that is way beyond what I'd intended in the import function.

What I do in this instance is look at the times for the episodes on the original, and then compare them to those on the import menu. I then reorder them from the menu if they are out of sequence.

[slvrsrfr]

It all depends on the authoring. The best that BD-RB can do is make a best guess as to the ordering. Some discs have no rhyme or reason as to the order -- and in those cases it's up to you to reorder them (from the import menu).

The only way to get around this would be for me to write an interpreter for the instruction sequence in the DVD -- and that is way beyond what I'd intended in the import function.

OK, thanks for the quick response - I wasn't sure if I need to change a setting or do something else.

What I do in this instance is look at the times for the episodes on the original, and then compare them to those on the import menu. I then reorder them from the menu if they are out of sequence.

Great suggestion - I'll keep an eye on that going forward. I appreciate the feedback.

[Ch3vr0n]

@jdobbs previously i was using software base mode to do my 3D processing. I've just enabled the iGPU (6700k) on my system to see if hardware encoding (quicksync) makes any difference. Do i need to set any options in the ini file to go from sw to hw?

which settings do you recommend on a 6700k? Software enc/dec, software enc, hw dec? Hardware enc/software dec? Hw enc & dec? How do you force hw?

FRIM_SW_DECODE=0
FRIM_SW_ENCODE=0

results in good decode but failed encode, so does 0/1. Removing both starts encoding but at 12FPS, i don't think it's doing hardware based encoding

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs previously i was using software base mode to do my 3D processing. I've just enabled the iGPU (6700k) on my system to see if hardware encoding (quicksync) makes any difference. Do i need to set any options in the ini file to go from sw to hw?

which settings do you recommend on a 6700k? Software enc/dec, software enc, hw dec? Hardware enc/software dec? Hw enc & dec? How do you force hw?

FRIM_SW_DECODE=0
FRIM_SW_ENCODE=0

results in good decode but failed encode, so does 0/1. Removing both starts encoding but at 12FPS, i don't think it's doing hardware based encodingI don't have experience with the 6700k, so I'm not sure I can be of much help. But make sure you download the latest drivers -- as that seems to be the most common issue that causes failed encodes. I ran into the same thing with my i5-based laptop a while back -- and the driver update solved it.

[Ch3vr0n]

I did, it's just 'stuck' after demuxing for a few seconds. Then aborts. Any hidden options? Did multiple reboots, no success yet

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[kufo]

@Ch3vr0n
I did my experiments and went the same way. I have the I7 4790K and I'm stuck with 12fps. HW DECODE / ENCODE with frim would certainly run much faster. If I find out something new, I will report this here.
Perhaps there has to be a new entry in the hidden options text like FRIM_HW_DECODE=1 and FRRIM_HW_ENCODE=1.
@jdobbs
Would that be possible?

[gonca]

From HIDDENOPTS.txt

FRIM_SW_DECODE=n n = 0/1 - if set to 1 (default), FRIMDecode uses software decoding, 0 uses automatic detection
FRIM_SW_ENCODE=n n = 0/1 - if set to 1 (default), FRIMEncode uses software encoding, 0 uses automatic detection

FRIM_HW_DECODE=1 and FRRIM_HW_ENCODE=0.

[Ch3vr0n]

From HIDDENOPTS.txtWeird, I did a search on 'frim' in hisdenopts and it only found the sw ones. To do HW on both, I set those 2 to '1'?

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[gonca]

Weird, I did a search on 'frim' in hisdenopts and it only found the sw ones. To do HW on both, I set those 2 to '1'?

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The post was in reply to the one prior to yours
To force HW use FRIM_xxx=0, if it detects the iGPU it will use hardware

[Ch3vr0n]

Well this is just weird

FRIM_HW_ENC=0 => 12FPS approx, HW_ENC=0: 8FPS :p

[gonca]

Well this is just weird

FRIM_HW_ENC=0 => 12FPS approx, HW_ENC=0: 8FPS :p

Try
FRIM_SW_DECODE=0
FRIM_SW_ENCODE=0

[jdobbs]

Well this is just weird

FRIM_HW_ENC=0 => 12FPS approx, HW_ENC=0: 8FPS :pThere are no FRIM_HW settings. It's just FRIM_SW_DECODE and FRIM_SW_ENCODE. Setting them to 0 implies HW (automatic detection).

All the settings do is change the FRIM command line to/from "-sw" and "-hw". For it to work, the system has to be configured to support HW encoding and have the proper drivers. That's about it. BD-RB's involvement in that process is minimal.

Is there a bios setting for the gpu maybe?

I'm using FRIM v1.25 by default in BD-RB. If you can't get it to work, maybe try downloading a newer FRIM version (with the DLLS). Beware, though, I'm not sure what changes have been made of if it will even work.

[Ch3vr0n]

the bios iGPU has been enabled yes, CloneBD for example detects QuickSync (where it previously didn't). Ah well, guess i need more tinkering. Latest intel drivers are installed, if you can point me to the place to grab frim i'll take a look

** edit ** found them on https://www.videohelp.com/software/FRIM

updated to 1.27

FRIM_SW_DECODE=0
FRIM_SW_ENCODE=0

results in what i earlier said a "pause" of 10-15sec when encoding is about to start and then "failed"

DECODE=0 and ENCODE=1 = fail
DECODE=1 and ENCODE=0 = fail

removing BOTH entries, encoding starts at the "normal" 10-12FPS

i'm outta idea's. Even did multiple googles and they all say something like "connect to VGA" for the iGPU at some point. Problem: there's no such option in windows 10

[worknstiff]

@ Ch3vr0n: RE: i'm outta idea's.

I have the same 6700K and I get BD_Rebuilder FRIM running at 88 FPS by using this in my config.ini file.

Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.24
ENCODER=0
MODE=0
ENABLE_TEST=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=0
MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=03
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=5
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=24350
FORCE_ENCODE=0
FRIM_SW_DECODE=1
FRIM_SW_ENCODE=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=2
...

Also intel has a pretty good program on their website to automatically find updated drivers for your motherboard and CPU at ( https://downloadcenter.intel.com/ ) and click on "Get Started" to download the Intel® Driver & Support Assistant (Intel® DSA) program. It will check all your intel stuff. I use it occasionally but I uninstall it after I use it to keep it from running every startup.

Hope this helps.

[gonca]

Could it be an A/V issue since HW encoding requires access to the drivers, or maybe set FRIM to run as Administrator for a test

[Ch3vr0n]

Tried 1/0, fails to start encoding. Decodes fine. No idea what the PRIORITY one is but can't find it in hiddenopts. You've got a GPU installed too like i do (GTX 1080)? Already running latest drivers. That's the first thing i did after enabling the igpu in the bios. Setting SW_DECODE to 1 and leaving the other one out works too, but at the "normal" software FPS.

No overclocking is going on btw.

[worknstiff]

RE: No idea what the PRIORITY one is?
I think it's under "Setting" and "Encoder Settings", where you can choose "Normal, Idle, or High". I have mine set at High.

RE: No overclocking is going on btw.
I have mine overclocked with a 47 multiplier all cores btw.

Have you looked under device manager to see if you have a second "greyed" out monitor listed? I think you have to hook up and run the monitor on the integrated graphics connector at least once for it to enable Quicksync, or at least that's what I had to do with my old 2600K.

[Ch3vr0n]

No greyed out ones listed. Just 2 standard "General PnP-Display". But i believe you're wrong on the last part. Elby's CloneBD can utilise QuickSync just fine (hw decoding and encoding) WITHOUT any display hooked up to the onboard hdmi.

[CraigWally]

Anyone else have A/V sync issues w/The Last Jedi??? It seems that the soundtracks lags a good second behind the video. I got a good, clean AnyDVD to ISO in that that ISO plays fine, but the BD-Rebuilder ISO has the lag.

Advice appreciated!!

No, mine just works fine. Tested on standalone too

[jdobbs]

Anyone else have A/V sync issues w/The Last Jedi??? It seems that the soundtracks lags a good second behind the video. I got a good, clean AnyDVD to ISO in that that ISO plays fine, but the BD-Rebuilder ISO has the lag.

Advice appreciated!!I recommend you uninstall and reinstall the LAV filters or FFDSHOW (or both depending on what you have installed). Make sure they are ONLY the versions listed in the first post of this thread. Sometimes other software installs can override them and cause sync issues. Other versions can also cause sync issues.

[Lathe]

I recommend you uninstall and reinstall the LAV filters or FFDSHOW (or both depending on what you have installed). Make sure they are ONLY the versions listed in the first post of this thread. Sometimes other software installs can override them and cause sync issues. Other versions can also cause sync issues.

Also... if you really let your dirty dishes pile up, that can cause a pretty serious sink issue too...

[gonca]

Also... if you really let your dirty dishes pile up, that can cause a pretty serious sink issue too...

Senility is a sad thing, good thing you don't remember
Also
A mind is a terrible thing to waste, guess you don't have much to waste

[Lathe]

Senility is a sad thing, good thing you don't remember
Also
A mind is a terrible thing to waste, guess you don't have much to waste



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[astraub]

Yesterday I used BD Rebuilder for the first time to compress a 3D BluRay disk. All worked nicely, but in the final step (conversion to BluRay folder) I found that, that the sw put only the MVC transport stream file in the "STREAMS" folder. Usually I would expect that I have a "ssif" folder and the two transport streams for both eyes. I haven't checked, if this is working, but it made me suspicious. So I used the final transport stream and converted it to a BluRay ISO using TSMuxerGUI. This ended up in a correctly structured and playing ISO.

So now two questions:
- what went wrong in the conversion to BluRay folder step of the process?
- can I only use ISO images as input data, or could I also use a MVC .mkv file?

[Ch3vr0n]

Yesterday I used BD Rebuilder for the first time to compress a 3D BluRay disk. All worked nicely, but in the final step (conversion to BluRay folder) I found that, that the sw put only the MVC transport stream file in the "STREAMS" folder. Usually I would expect that I have a "ssif" folder and the two transport streams for both eyes. I haven't checked, if this is working, but it made me suspicious. So I used the final transport stream and converted it to a BluRay ISO using TSMuxerGUI. This ended up in a correctly structured and playing ISO.

So now two questions:
- what went wrong in the conversion to BluRay folder step of the process?
- can I only use ISO images as input data, or could I also use a MVC .mkv file?

What went wrong in conversion to folder? Absolutely nothing.

Bdrb converts the 3d ssif structure to a fully BD standard compliant 'in-mux' 3d structure that DOESNT NEED an ssif structure. Nothing 'suspicious' about it. Studio's just use the ssif method because it makes it harder to make a backup because they're virtual files. You don't have that problem with an 'in-mux' structure.

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[ocean]

Usually I would expect that I have a "ssif" folder and the two transport streams for both eyes. I haven't checked, if this is working, but it made me suspicious.


Hi, to exit with the SSIF ISO folder, add the command to the bdrebuilder.ini file: OUTPUT_3D_ISO = 1

[astraub]

This is very interesting! Thanks a lot for the clarification :-)

Can someone please also help me with the second question? Does it have to be an .ISO image for input, or will a MVC .mkv file also work somehow? That would save an extra conversion step ....

[Ch3vr0n]

AFAIK BDRB can do movie-only 3D mkv's. You have the option of Over/under (or reverse) SBS (Left/right or reverse) or frame-packed i think, but not all players support frame-packed MKV's, especially since there's no official MKV standard for frame-packed ones.

[worknstiff]

@ ocean; to exit with the SSIF ISO folder, add the command to the bdrebuilder.ini file: OUTPUT_3D_ISO = 1

I added the command to the bdrebuilder.ini file: OUTPUT_3D_ISO = 1, but I still ended up with a folder instead. Wonder why?

[Sharc]

.... Does it have to be an .ISO image for input, or will a MVC .mkv file also work somehow? ....
You can convert your 3D .mkv frame-packed source to a 3D Blu-Ray folder structure (with base and dependent .m2ts streams) or to an .iso (ssiff) using TSMuxeR and then continue with BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

@ ocean; to exit with the SSIF ISO folder, add the command to the bdrebuilder.ini file: OUTPUT_3D_ISO = 1

I added the command to the bdrebuilder.ini file: OUTPUT_3D_ISO = 1, but I still ended up with a folder instead. Wonder why?From HIDDENOPTS.TXT:OUTPUT_3D_ISO=n n = 0/1 - 0=Off (default) - if set to "1", movie-only output is to an ISO rather than a folderProbably because it only applies to movie-only mode.

[worknstiff]

@ jdobbs; Probably because it only applies to movie-only mode.

Uhoh, You're right, I had forgotten all about movie only.

[astraub]

This evening I was testing the different coding results with my 3D Beamer and my Dune HD player.

I found that only the ISO with the ssif file plays in 3D on my player. Unfortunately only the left eye (2D) stream is looking very good. The right eye channel is showing a lot of blocking artifacts (not acceptable). What did I do wrong? Any idea? A quality setting - I was using the defaults? I was using the setup according to the first post (using 2A + 2B setup).

Here is the log:

----------------------
[04.04.18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[09:37:29] Source: DESPICABLE_ME_3D_00800
- Input BD size: 35,63 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:41.634]
- Target BD size: 14,65 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[09:37:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:37:31] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 2)
- [09:37:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [09:54:09] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 76.064 frames
- Bitrate: 18.053 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [09:54:09] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:08:41] Video Encode complete
- [11:08:41] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4355 (deu): Keeping original audio
- [11:08:41] Processing: VID_00006 (2 of 2)
- [11:08:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [11:16:54] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 60.159 frames
- Bitrate: 17.617 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [11:16:55] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:08:27] Video Encode complete
[12:08:27]PHASE ONE complete
[12:08:27]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:08:27] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
[12:13:02] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:13:02] JOB: DESPICABLE_ME_3D finished.

[musiclover]

What did I do wrong?

Here is the log:

----------------------
[04.04.18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[09:37:29] Source: DESPICABLE_ME_3D_00800
- Input BD size: 35,63 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:41.634]
- Target BD size: 14,65 GB


Set Target BD size to 23 GB

[astraub]

So the 15GB are not enough for both transport streams? That is very surprising to me. I would expect it to be more likely that in the calculation of the "delta" stream something went wrong. Anything in the settings (.ini file), which couldbe helpful in this case?

Would it eventually also help to increase the quality setting instead of just the average bitrate? Has someone ever tried the different settings and can tell me what is the "best" setting for minimum file sizes?

Anyway, I will try both and report about the results.

[Sharc]

Which tool did you use for ripping the Blu-Ray disc?
Does the ripped version (i.e. before encoding) play correctly?
If low file size really matters you should encode SBS using x264 rather than FRIM. Of course your playback infrastructure must support SBS in this case.

[astraub]

The original ISO is a perfect rip. I want to avoid reducing resolution by using SBS or TOB, but still compress the main movie only as good as possible without losing visible video quality.

Typically a 2D Bluray can easily be compressed to 5-10GB and retain quality (1080p). So 15GB looked reasonable to do this with 2 streams - especially as the second stream is only recorded as delta information.

I understand that FRIM has some serious restrictions in what options it allows to influence encoding quality. But for full frame sequential 3D there is no other option currently. So I will try to find the best encoding option to reduce it to the max - probably at the cost of encoding time, but I have an 8 core Xeon processor, so this should be bearable. Any hints of people who have already tried this would be highly appreciated!

I want to repeat here, that the left eye stream is running in perfect quality, only the right eye stream shows serious block artifacts.

[Sharc]

Compared to commercial 3D encoders FRIM is less efficient in compressing the dependent stream. The bitrate for your 15GB target size is probably not very comfortable for FRIM depending on the source (noise, details, action scenes...)
You may try with AUTO_BIAS=3 in the .ini and increase the target size to a 25GB disc as already recommended by musiclover, and see what you get.

Edit:
You may also want to unselect "Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-Ray only)" in the Setup Dialog in order to save some bitrate on the Audio and throw it to the Video instead.

But I am still wondering why your AVC (left eye) is perfect quality while your dependent right eye stream shows serious block artifacts.......

[astraub]

This is also what I am confused about. Could it be that whatever tool is being used to calculate the differences for the second stream is having a setup/parameter problem? Or is there a reason, why exactly this process generates that much block artifacts? Could this be a rounding/mathematical issue?

Questions .... ;-)

[jdobbs]

This is also what I am confused about. Could it be that whatever tool is being used to calculate the differences for the second stream is having a setup/parameter problem? Or is there a reason, why exactly this process generates that much block artifacts? Could this be a rounding/mathematical issue?

Questions .... ;-)Are you using the version of FRIM that comes with BD-RB? If I remember correctly, there was a version (actually the Intel Library DLL, not FRIM itself) a while back that had the issue of artifacts in one of the two stereo frames. I think I even got it myself and corrected it by updating the DLL. It's been a long time, though.

[astraub]

I was using exactly the versions which are linked on the first post of this thread. I also tried really hard to follow all instructions given, like setting the video decoders and Audio pass through. I hope the versions linked are all on static webpages?

Is there a way to get a list of all the versions used?

[Sharc]

Is there a way to get a list of all the versions used?
BD-RB Help menu: Inspect (Show settings).

How does your dependent stream (right eye) look like: Just poor quality or really garbled crap (wild blocks, far from the original picture)?

[MrVideo]

So the 15GB are not enough for both transport streams?
Why throttle the output? The BD25 has space, so use it.

[astraub]

@Sharc the dependent stream looks really pretty bad - big random block artifacts - very disturbing. Sometimes a few clean frames, than random garbage in an otherwise nice frame again. This is the reason, why I still believe that something more basic than just encoder quality is going wrong.

Currently I am trying the highest (very slow) setting. If this does not help, I will try increasing the target size to 25GBytes.

----

@Mr.Video I keep all my 3D Movies (around 35) on my NAS (I would not even think of handling all my BluRays on disks ... around 1200!). I estimated that I could save around one TB of storage space by storing only the main movies in a more compressed format. As my NAS is slowly running out of space, this would be a big relief and can save me for quite some time from having to buy a second one ...

[MrVideo]

I keep all my 3D Movies (around 35) on my NAS (I would not even think of handling all my BluRays on disks ... around 1200!). I estimated that I could save around one TB of storage space by storing only the main movies in a more compressed format. As my NAS is slowly running out of space, this would be a big relief and can save me for quite some time from having to buy a second one ...
Ah, OK.

[astraub]

So - here the results of my testing:

I generated two ISOs

1) using a target size of 15GB and the highest (very slow) setting and
2) using the BD25 / automatic setting.

Both ISOs play with the same kind of problem reported before. The left eye stream is completely fine, the dependent stream / right eye stream shows severe block artifacts. After these tests I am now sure, that this has nothing to do with the amount of compression, but some other factor in the processing chain.

Just to double check here the config list of the BD25/automatic quality run:

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.24
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=25000
TARGET_SIZE=23500
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH= ......\DESPICABLE_ME_3D\
WORKING_PATH= ......\SCHREIBTISCH\

and the system check results:

Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 330,19GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[04.06.18] Systems Settings Check complete

The only thing suspicious I could find are the two slightly different BD Rebuilder versions reported in both cases. Now only a real expert can help, I guess ....

[Sharc]

How do you watch the "right eye only" view? Is there a setting with your player for this, or do you try to play the corresponding file?

[omegaman7]

It's been a while, but I recall having problems with decoding 3D on the software players, where the problem/artifacts did not occur on a standalone.

[astraub]

@sharc I use the Dune HD 4k Solo player. This detects the 3D media by itself and so does my projector. With the original ISOs this never caused any kind of issues. All movies played perfectly fine including menus and all.

I can simply use my 3D glasses and switch between the two single channel views - or just close my left eye in 3D view ;-). I can also try to use the "Bino" SW-Player - which should enable me to show both views separately on the Mac and actually attach a picture of the issues seen. Would that help?

Before I forget: are here other people using 3D capable media players like the Zappiti or alike? What are your experiences?

[Sharc]

You could encode SBS using x264 as the encoder. It would eliminate the FRIM encoder in the process. If the right eye (you can watch the SBS format on your PC, SBS) is still garbled it would point to the FRIM decoder (or library) being the source of the problem, (or the source itself but you said that the source plays fine).

EDIT:
SW player: I am using Stereoscopic Player (http://www.3dtv.at/Index_de.aspx) (mainly for testing on PC)
HW player: 3D SAMSUNG standalone + 3D SAMSUNG TV
On my NAS I usually store 3D in compressed SBS format, CRF 20 giving file sizes in the range of 5 to 10 GB, for streaming to the TV.

[astraub]

Well, I tried SBS and TOB, but I don't like the quality degradation because of the halved resolution - especially for a projector. For a TV that may be acceptable though.

As the FRIM de-/encoder is currently the only tool available to recode MVC streams .... I guess, I will stop my testing here, except if someone of the people really knowing what FRIM does and how eventually a parameter may fix this, can help out.

[Sharc]

Well, when you really want to reduce the file size for your NAS you will quickly come to the crossover where Half-SBS using x264 looks better than full-size MVC using the Intel (FRIM) encoder, especially for action scenes. My experience only, but to each his own, of course, as "quality" is subjective.

[astraub]

Maybe you are right. So far I only tried using DVDFAB ro create SBS versions (though with a high quality setting). Maybe I will try with BD Rebuilder and x.264 ... I hope I will find all the buttons to select - or do I have to manually set something in the .INI file?

PS: I just remembered that with DVDFAB I was using HEVC (H.265) encoding for SBS 3D. I guess that cannot be beaten by using H.264 .... so, never mind ;-)

[jdobbs]

Try going to this link (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1650646#post1650646) and downloading the latest version of FRIM (v1.27). BD-RB uses v1.25. You could replace the versions in the BD-RB tools folder and see what happens. Don't forget to replace the DLL as well. Take caution, though, and save the ones you are replacing. I haven't tested v1.27 and don't even know if it works with BD-RB.

[Ch3vr0n]

1.27 seems to work on my end give, though I still haven't been able to enable quick sync HW.

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk

[Lathe]

1.27 seems to work on my end

I don't think you are supposed to use it there...

Of course, what you do in private is your business...

[astraub]

@jdobbs Yes, the new version also worked fine for me in BD Rebuilder. Unfortunately the end result is the same as with the older one ....

[CraigWally]

It's been a while, but I recall having problems with decoding 3D on the software players, where the problem/artifacts did not occur on a standalone.

I concur,
All of my 3D rebuilds have issues while playing on PowerDVD, but work flawlessly when burnt and played on the standalone

Wally

[lithiumus]

Hey JD, it's been a while! I'm curious as I wanted to try with some UHD ISOs if I can use the current BD-RB to test just the removal extras, previews, etc without any remuxing and see if it can rebuild, preserving the menus and see which releases I can get down to BD50 leaving the content untouched as much as possible... idea would be to avoid any issues with re-encoding/remuxing.

If you think the current version is ready for that kind of testing, I'm up for doing a bunch of this work to test it out.

[SquallMX]

Hey JD, it's been a while! I'm curious as I wanted to try with some UHD ISOs if I can use the current BD-RB to test just the removal extras, previews, etc without any remuxing and see if it can rebuild, preserving the menus and see which releases I can get down to BD50 leaving the content untouched as much as possible... idea would be to avoid any issues with re-encoding/remuxing.

If you think the current version is ready for that kind of testing, I'm up for doing a bunch of this work to test it out.

Beware, bitrates for BD66 / BD100 (retail discs) are higher than the ones used for BD50, so, you can get stuttering when burning the untouched video to a BD-R DL.

[lithiumus]

Beware, bitrates for BD66 / BD100 (retail discs) are higher than the ones used for BD50, so, you can get stuttering when burning the untouched video to a BD-R DL.

Hmmm... thanks for the warning! Maybe I'll just leave them on my NAS and just reduce the size leaving the video untouched and see if everything works ok...

[drmih]

You'll find that the two new Alien films (Prometheus and Covenant) will fit on a bd-50 already if you just want to experiment. Interestingly I've found that my high end Panasonic 900 can struggle (stutter) with high bitrates on bd-50 media, whereas they are fine on an Xbox.

[RobertM]

Hi folks,

I've been using BD-RB for ages, but this is the first time I tried to use it to author a quick-play menu, and it ALMOST worked. It re-encoded all the 5 MKV files, and created a menu with the right background image, but there is no text on the menu at all. There is a large grey square in the center of the screen, where I suppose all the episode links should be; not sure since I've not created one before. If I wait 30sec the episodes start to autoplay and I can ff through them to get to the next episode.

After importing the MKV files I was able to edit the quick play menus (disc name, episode names etc) before running the backup, and I see a 'titles.inf' file was created with the appropriate information, but none of those names show up in the final product. Has someone created a how-to for this? Not sure what I've done wrong or which setting I missed.

Hang on.... checking this.... could be that I'm using a s/w BD player. Lemme burn this to a BD-RE and see what it looks like...

Yep, works fine in a standalone BD player. Never mind...

[e143slime8]

Hello. Finally getting around to watching Jigsaw and am seeing, at around 32 minutes in, inconsistencies with playback, video/audio not in sync and jumping around.

I'll create a log if needed, let me know.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Hello. Finally getting around to watching Jigsaw and am seeing, at around 32 minutes in, inconsistencies with playback, video/audio not in sync and jumping around. Tried ripping again with AnyDVD 8.2.3.3 and burning, same results. I originally thought this was a problem with "AnyDVD". I used BD Rebuilder v0.50.25 as I usually do for all my Blu-Ray projects. As a last thought, tried re-ripping the .iso and viewed the original results finding the original was okay. Then used "CloneBD" and the end result worked.

I originally posted this situation to their forum and once I found the error, they suggested I post here so that "jdobbs softworks" is aware of the problem.

I'll create a log if needed, let me know.

Thanks.You've demonstrated very poor net etiquette. So what does using CloneBD have to do with anything? I really don't care what it does or can't do as it really doesn't affect BD Rebuilder. Are you trying to advertise for them, maybe? One major difference I can see... BD Rebuilder is free and they are expensive... and I believe BD Rebuilder results in better quality. But, hey, to each his/her own.

[e143slime8]

You've demonstrated very poor net etiquette. So what does using CloneBD have to do with anything? I really don't care what it does or can't do as it really doesn't affect BD Rebuilder. Are you trying to advertise for them, maybe? One major difference I can see... BD Rebuilder is free and they are expensive... and I believe BD Rebuilder results in better quality. But, hey, to each his/her own.

This post was for informational purposes only (I have been a supporter and have used BDRebuilder for many, many years now and use that program for 99.9% of my burns). I'm not advertising for anyone but did think that you might have wanted to know about this particular issue.

Sorry if I've offended anyone.

[jdobbs]

This post was for informational purposes only (I have been a supporter and have used BDRebuilder for many, many years now and use that program for 99.9% of my burns). I'm not advertising for anyone but did think that you might have wanted to know about this particular issue.

Sorry if I've offended anyone.The issue, yes. The CloneBD stuff, not so much.

[Ch3vr0n]

The thing is, afaik, BDRB recognises (when present) the playlist mentioned by anydvd in the disc.inf file anydvd creates in the disc root. If BDRB would jump chapters, then so would CloneBD as an improper playlist would be used (screenpass protection). As to the audio sync issues (at least with BDRB), that's primarily down to using BDRB helper tools that arent officially recommended versions.

[MrVideo]

When a disc is authored so that it will play a few m2ts files out-of-order because it detected the missing encryption, it is not done on chapter marks. Of the ones I've seen, they author random locations, and lengths.

[abbadon]

I'm trying to convert a video I took with my phone to a dvd. However the import fails. Here's the log.

----------------------
[16:09:09] Importing: WORKING
- [16:09:20] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Preparing MP4 for processing...
- Scanning for Variable Frame Rate...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting VFR source to CFR format...
[16:09:37]ERROR: Failed VFR conversion. Aborted.
_____________

Any ideas?

[Ch3vr0n]

Yes, post full conversion log. Not 5 lines of it.

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk

[MrVideo]

I'm trying to convert a video I took with my phone to a dvd. However the import fails. Here's the log.

----------------------
[16:09:09] Importing: WORKING
- [16:09:20] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Preparing MP4 for processing...
- Scanning for Variable Frame Rate...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting VFR source to CFR format...
[16:09:37]ERROR: Failed VFR conversion. Aborted.
_____________

Any ideas?
Set IMPORT_VFR_DISABLE=1

[jdobbs]

Just a warning though. If the source is truly VFR, turning that off will result in audio/video sync issues.

[MrVideo]

Three out of 10 videos that I have to put on a Blu-ray have forced subtitltes (for the foreign language). Those subtitle tracks are marked as forced in the MKV files. Is there a flag to tell BDRB to encode the Blu-ray to turn on subtitle #1 (the forced one in each of the three files)?

[jdobbs]

Three out of 10 videos that I have to put on a Blu-ray have forced subtitltes (for the foreign language). Those subtitle tracks are marked as forced in the MKV files. Is there a flag to tell BDRB to encode the Blu-ray to turn on subtitle #1 (the forced one in each of the three files)?It should do it automatically. Run MEDIAINFO (the one included with BD-RB) on the original MKV and see if it shows the subtitle as forced. If so, BD-RB should see it and set that subtitle stream to forced in the resulting pseudo BD structure.

I haven't looked at this in a long time, I'll check the code and make sure it is working.

[abbadon]

Yes, post full conversion log. Not 5 lines of it.

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk

That is the ENTIRE log.

__
trying

IMPORT_VFR_DISABLE=1

we'll see what happens

[MrVideo]

It should do it automatically. Run MEDIAINFO (the one included with BD-RB) on the original MKV and see if it shows the subtitle as forced. If so, BD-RB should see it and set that subtitle stream to forced in the resulting pseudo BD structure.
Yep. Default and forced.
I haven't looked at this in a long time, I'll check the code and make sure it is working.
Is this done before Backup is run, or during Backup? I stop and burn the contents before Backup.

[Ch3vr0n]

That is the ENTIRE log.

__
trying

IMPORT_VFR_DISABLE=1

we'll see what happensNo it's not. The start and ending are missing

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk

[varekai]

No it's not. The start and ending are missing
These are my logs.
https://frupic.frubar.net/shots/36741.jpg
I know the start and endings are missing but... please advise?

[Ch3vr0n]

I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer as i wasn't talking to you in the first place.

[Lathe]

These are my logs.
https://frupic.frubar.net/shots/36741.jpg
I know the start and endings are missing but... please advise?

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/doh.gif

Careful... gonca really likes looking at other people's logs...

[Lathe]

I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer as i wasn't talking to you in the first place.

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/laugh2.gif

[gonca]

Lathe, remember saying

it was my anal little 'tweaks' that slowed everything down so much

Varekai
Please don't post those kinds of pics, Lathe likes looking at other guys "wood"

[Lathe]

Lathe, remember saying

Quote:
it was my anal little 'tweaks' that slowed everything down so much

Varekai
Please don't post those kinds of pics, Lathe likes looking at other guys "wood"

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/sigh1.gif

[varekai]

I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer as i wasn't talking to you in the first place.
Well... you actually did answer..
Relax... it was a joke... :D

[Jake802]

Not really a bug. I was just wondering if you are considering toying with the 4K Stuff?

[abbadon]

So adding "IMPORT_VFR_DISABLE=1" allowed it complete, but yes it was out of sync. As it was a small clip meant as a gift, I just put it on an old phone and gave it to the recipient to watch. I am curious what the issue is and how, if possible, to solve it.

[e143slime8]

The issue, yes. The CloneBD stuff, not so much.

Here's the contents of BDREBUILDER.INI for Jigsaw for those interested:

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.24
ENCODER=0
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=1
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=H:\RIPPED NEW MOVIES\JIGSAW GOOD\
WORKING_PATH=H:\TEMP TARGET FROM BDRB MOVIES\



Note: the problem is the movie/audio sync and jumping around starting near the 29 minute mark.

[jdobbs]

@e143slime8

Could you also click on HELP/INSPECT and post what is displayed? Sync issues are often related to the versions of the helper apps. Also, have you tried reripping? When sync issues start that late, it can sometimes be caused by a glitch just before that point due to a bad rip.

[DoctorM]

Not really a bug. I was just wondering if you are considering toying with the 4K Stuff?
Can't 4k already be imported as video files or are you talking full UHD BD to BD conversion?

[HomeDepot4]

Trying to make a encode my version of "Elf" and I'm getting the following error, been using BDRebuilder for years and never had a problem.. have done a couple this week actually.. Making a BD25.

Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 10139
Failed to REBUILD

[05/01/18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 2,365.13GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[05/01/18] Systems Settings Check complete

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.23
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
DTSX_ENABLE=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=2
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
TARGET_SIZE=23500
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=17
ALTCRF=23
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALT_CRF_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
AUTO_BURN=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=G:\MUSIC\BLURAY\
SOURCE_PATH=G:\VIDEO\BACKUP\ELF\
[Batch]
MAIN_MPLS=00023.MPLS
MAIN_MPLS_ANGLE=0
FORCED_SUB=0
FORCED_AUD=0
AUDIO=111111111
SUBS=000000000000000000


Any help would be appreciated. Thanks..

UPDATE, Actually, it doesn't seem to be picking the movie... it's choosing one of the extras and not the main movie.. interesting

[jdobbs]

@HomeDepot4

1. Please post the entire log. Thanks.
2. Any reason why you aren't using the latest version?

[HomeDepot4]

@HomeDepot4

1. Please post the entire log. Thanks.
2. Any reason why you aren't using the latest version?

I have the latest installed... that's odd why it doesn't reflect that... Anyway, here is the complete log. Thanks! Obviously, not choosing the main movie, as it would be more than 11 gigs!

[05/01/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[12:22:26] Source: ELF_00023
- Input BD size: 11.77 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:28:24.841]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:22:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:22:26] Processing: VID_00004 (1 of 9)
- [12:22:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [12:24:21] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- [12:24:21] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:24:21] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:24:21] Processing: VID_00006 (2 of 9)
- [12:24:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [12:25:06] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 29,689 frames
- Bitrate: 28,685 Kbs
- [12:25:06] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:31:38] Video Encode complete
- [12:31:38] Processing: VID_00005 (3 of 9)
- [12:31:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [12:32:12] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 16,585 frames
- Bitrate: 35,000 Kbs
- [12:32:12] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:36:14] Video Encode complete
- [12:36:14] Processing: VID_00007 (4 of 9)
- [12:36:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [12:36:35] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,529 frames
- Bitrate: 35,000 Kbs
- [12:36:35] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:38:53] Video Encode complete
- [12:38:53] Processing: VID_00008 (5 of 9)
- [12:38:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [12:39:21] Reencoding video [VID_00008]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 17,593 frames
- Bitrate: 28,279 Kbs
- [12:39:21] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:43:13] Video Encode complete
- [12:43:13] Processing: VID_00009 (6 of 9)
- [12:43:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [12:43:32] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,409 frames
- Bitrate: 33,044 Kbs
- [12:43:32] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:45:28] Video Encode complete
- [12:45:28] Processing: VID_00010 (7 of 9)
- [12:45:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [12:45:57] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 15,009 frames
- Bitrate: 34,855 Kbs
- [12:45:57] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:49:32] Video Encode complete
- [12:49:32] Processing: VID_00011 (8 of 9)
- [12:49:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [12:49:53] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,369 frames
- Bitrate: 35,000 Kbs
- [12:49:53] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:52:09] Video Encode complete
- [12:52:09] Processing: VID_00012 (9 of 9)
- [12:52:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [12:52:33] Reencoding video [VID_00012]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,865 frames
- Bitrate: 35,000 Kbs
- [12:52:33] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:55:02] Video Encode complete
[12:55:02]PHASE ONE complete
[12:55:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:55:02] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 10139
[17:21:19] - Failed to REBUILD

[jdobbs]

1. The error is coming from TSMUXER. Typically that means a corrupt source... but, I don't think so in this case.

2. There is nothing in a source that says "I'm the main movie." So BD-RB uses a series of checks to look for in each playlist to determine which is the most likely. It's right 99+% of the time, but in this case it looks like it didn't. If it's choosing the wrong playlist, use the "Other Movie-Only Playlist" selection from the MODE menu and choose the playlist for the main feature. But... the one it's selecting looks like it is almost 12GB, which is pretty large for an extra. If it is wrong, that may fix your issue.

3. Now... with that said -- there is another obvious problem for this playlist. The first section of the playlist (VID_00004) is being kept intact while the rest of the playlist (VID_00006, VID_00007... etc) are being encoded. That means the first section is VC-1 and the others are AVC. That is illegal, should never happen, and is likely the source of the issue. So there is something going wrong in BD-RB that I will have to investigate.

If this playlist actually is the movie... you can add

FORCE_NOENCODE=1

to the [Options] area of your BDREBUILDER.INI file. This should make BD-RB keep the entire stream intact, and since the length will easily fit on the target there would be no need to reencode.

If, however, you ran into a situation where it wouldn't fit, or where you needed it to be AVC rather than VC-1, you could add (instead):

FORCE_ENCODE=1

That would make sure the source is reencoded, even if it would fit without doing so.

If you use either option, it's a good idea to remove it after you are done to avoid issues with other discs.

[HomeDepot4]

Thanks for helping clear that up. It looks like it 'picked' a 1 hour 28 minute extra that is included in the movie. I tried your suggestion of using the -other movie method and am encoding an MKV. When I get home I will try to burn the the BDR and report back.

Thank you!

[slimm]

Just wanted to thank you again for this software. A gift card has been sent your way.

[jdobbs]

Just wanted to thank you again for this software. A gift card has been sent your way.Thank you. Your support is appreciated.

[Blurayhd]

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/sigh1.gif

I have to say it you make me laugh

[Lathe]

I have to say it you make me laugh

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/banana01.gif http://lathe-of-heaven.com/banana02.gif http://lathe-of-heaven.com/banana03.gif http://lathe-of-heaven.com/banana04.gif http://lathe-of-heaven.com/banana05.gif

[geheim]

Hey jdobbs, do you have any news about UHD compatibility of BDRB?? Could you figure out the muxing problems??

[gonca]

I have to say it you make me laugh

He's used that one so many times that it is old, not original or funny anymore
Unless you are talking about his capabilities:D:D

[Lathe]

He's used that one so many times that it is old, not original or funny anymore
Unless you are talking about his capabilities:D:D

I think a certain someone needs a nice little trip to the woods...

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/Beating a dead horse3.gif

[gonca]

That is an old one as well, get a new script writer

[Blurayhd]

For encoding my Bluray disc I use so far my pc desktop but I wonder if I can use my laptop for this job? I mean I dont want to my laptop explode or hardware problems I have a Dell Inspiron 17 5000 series with I5 7th gen and 8gb ddr4 and the hot air is disiping to the back, just for try I started some encode and can notice that encode takes several hours so I cancel it and for that I asking to you this

what do you say? can I the encode process too much for my processor, my hardware etc considering the serveral hours or what?

Thank you in advance!!

[jdobbs]

For encoding my Bluray disc I use so far my pc desktop but I wonder if I can use my laptop for this job? I mean I dont want to my laptop explode or hardware problems I have a Dell Inspiron 17 5000 series with I5 7th gen and 8gb ddr4 and the hot air is disiping to the back, just for try I started some encode and can notice that encode takes several hours so I cancel it and for that I asking to you this

what do you say? can I the encode process too much for my processor, my hardware etc considering the serveral hours or what?

Thank you in advance!!I can't imagine whey it would be an issue... lots of people use notebooks for BD encoding.

[Blurayhd]

I can't imagine whey it would be an issue... lots of people use notebooks for BD encoding.

Thank you for answer me Jdobbs but you know, you said me days or weeks ago x264 takes the full load of processor (thanks for teach me about it), and I dont know if the encoding proces will be 7 hours, 14 hours you think so.

I really hope you dont mind of I wait if more people around here maybe could tell me and give me they opinion?

[Blurayhd]

I can't imagine whey it would be an issue... lots of people use notebooks for BD encoding.

Dear Jdobbs please dont get me wrong I appreciate that you told me I really do, I just wish some more opinions about it

Thank you again have a nice week!!

[drmih]

I only use a laptop nowadays for all encoding - if it's got a GPU all the better, as you can do BD or UHD compressions in about 30 mins. Unless you seriously overclock the CPU / GPU, any pc or laptop should cope with whatever you throw at it - they are specified to have some margin (hence why you can over-clock them).

[LowDead]

For encoding my Bluray disc I use so far my pc desktop but I wonder if I can use my laptop for this job? I mean I dont want to my laptop explode or hardware problems I have a Dell Inspiron 17 5000 series with I5 7th gen and 8gb ddr4 and the hot air is disiping to the back, just for try I started some encode and can notice that encode takes several hours so I cancel it and for that I asking to you this

what do you say? can I the encode process too much for my processor, my hardware etc considering the serveral hours or what?

Thank you in advance!!

Yeah you are good to go. Make sure there isn't any dust clogging the fan ports on the back though.

//LD

[Blurayhd]

I only use a laptop nowadays for all encoding - if it's got a GPU all the better, as you can do BD or UHD compressions in about 30 mins. Unless you seriously overclock the CPU / GPU, any pc or laptop should cope with whatever you throw at it - they are specified to have some margin (hence why you can over-clock them).

I have to say it, please excuse me Jdobbs I know this is Bd rebuilder post but as an example I´m using for others encoding that Rebuilder still doesnt, I´m using the GPU with encodings almost maybe 1hour and half and it is ok but I dont know about if using Bd rebuilder maybe 10 hours, 14 hours I dont want hardware problems

My laptop GPU is integrated Intel HD 620 with 128gb mb.

Of course it will be amazing if BD rebuilder could have the GPU option but I think if Jdobbs not put this option yet is for something

So you think or you are saying the laptop can work full load almost 14 hours?

Thank you again!!

[Blurayhd]

Yeah you are good to go. Make sure there isn't any dust clogging the fan ports on the back though.

//LD

Same the last post, thank you Lowdead so you´re sayng I can go with full load almost 14 hours? please excuse me English is my second language and some times is hard to me to explain or tell or saying but I do m best!!, the hardware specs are:

GPU Intel Integrated HD 620 with 128mb

8gb DDR4

Processor I5 7th gen

Just for ask, there is no way to add some more memory to integrated GPU from the RAM? I read can be possible with pc Desktop but no idea with laptop

[Ch3vr0n]

You can't add ram, as it's likely 'virtual' ram taken from the actual total ram in the laptop. However if you know how to get into the laptops BIOS and know your way around, it may potentially be possible to assign more. However, bdrb mainly uses x264/265 depending on the type of conversion you'll do. That's CPU demanding, not the built-in GPU part.

You should be fine if the cooler is up to the task. As the CPU will be under full load normally. Now, that will create heat, which the cooler will need to be capable of blowing out, do the vents need to be clear from dust (and nothing blocking them).

As to potential damage, in the old days when cpu's got too hot and cooling want to to today's standards they could indeed get damaged. Today, a CPU will shut itself off when it gets too hot to prevent that from happening.

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[Blurayhd]

You can't add ram, as it's likely 'virtual' ram taken from the actual total ram in the laptop. However if you know how to get into the laptops BIOS and know your way around, it may potentially be possible to assign more. However, bdrb mainly uses x264/265 depending on the type of conversion you'll do. That's CPU demanding, not the built-in GPU part.

You should be fine if the cooler is up to the task. As the CPU will be under full load normally. Now, that will create heat, which the cooler will need to be capable of blowing out, do the vents need to be clear from dust (and nothing blocking them).

As to potential damage, in the old days when cpu's got too hot and cooling want to to today's standards they could indeed get damaged. Today, a CPU will shut itself off when it gets too hot to prevent that from happening.

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk

Thank you Ch3vr0n

Jdobbs there´s some way to add an option or button in Bd rebuilder that you can pause the encoding and continue? so we dont have to start all the encoding again...

[jdobbs]

You can stop at any time... but it will always have to resume at the beginning of a current pass (x264 doesn't have a way of which I'm aware to resume an encode pass). I'm not aware of a way to pause only a process. That doesn't mean it doesn't necessarily exist, only that I'm not familiar with it (if it does exist).

[Lathe]

That doesn't mean it doesn't necessarily exist, only that I'm not familiar with it (if it does exist).

But, if it DOESN'T exist and you DO know about it...?

Ahhhhh... then you'd have something...

[MrVideo]

You can stop at any time... but it will always have to resume at the beginning of a current pass (x264 doesn't have a way of which I'm aware to resume an encode pass). I'm not aware of a way to pause only a process. That doesn't mean it doesn't necessarily exist, only that I'm not familiar with it (if it does exist).
Under Windoze I do not think you can. I have the cygwin tools installed and start my encoding via the Zshell. One is able to Ctrl-Z (stop) the script, but I do not think that the x264 executable will accept the stop. It should under Unix/Linux, but this isn't Unix/Linux, even with the cygwin tools. Windoze architecture must still be honored.

I just tried it with a 2nd pass of the x264 encoder. The script I use to do all of my encodings indeed was suspended (stopped), but the x264 encoder kept right on ticking.

[Mediogre]

You can stop at any time... but it will always have to resume at the beginning of a current pass (x264 doesn't have a way of which I'm aware to resume an encode pass). I'm not aware of a way to pause only a process. That doesn't mean it doesn't necessarily exist, only that I'm not familiar with it (if it does exist).

Process Explorer allows you to suspend a process. Just find the x264.exe process in its window, right-click on it and select suspend. It's worked well for me in the past.

[MrVideo]

Process Explorer allows you to suspend a process. Just find the x264.exe process in its window, right-click on it and select suspend. It's worked well for me in the past.
Interesting. I'll have to remember that.

[mparade]

@jdobbs

Will BD-RB have an option for chosing DGDecNV as the frameserver for UHD-BD encodings? I have a Pascal Card and latest DGDecNV now supports decoding of HEVC upto 12-bit without any issue. I have tested it and is working flawlessly.

Thanks for this amazing software.

[mparade]

Is it possible to use Full Backup mode in case of BD3D source (including menus and extras) without reencoding the video (keeping intact)? I just want to throw out unwanted audio streams, reencode the English HD track to AC3 5.1 while keeping an other AC3 5.1 track of the main movie.

Giving thanks to any answer. :)

[kufo]

@mparade
There's no problem, I think.
You only have to use the right settings for 3D encoding. Shrinking to BD25 works fine for me. A simple selection of of your fav. audio can 't be a problem in my opinion.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Will BD-RB have an option for chosing DGDecNV as the frameserver for UHD-BD encodings? I have a Pascal Card and latest DGDecNV now supports decoding of HEVC upto 12-bit without any issue. I have tested it and is working flawlessly.

Thanks for this amazing software.Right now I don’t have a card that supports it, so I have no way of testing it... so probably not for a while.

[jdobbs]

Is it possible to use Full Backup mode in case of BD3D source (including menus and extras) without reencoding the video (keeping intact)? I just want to throw out unwanted audio streams, reencode the English HD track to AC3 5.1 while keeping an other AC3 5.1 track of the main movie.

Giving thanks to any answer. :)I should be no problem. From that perspective BD-RB treats 3D like any other source.

[mparade]

@mparade
There's no problem, I think.
You only have to use the right settings for 3D encoding. Shrinking to BD25 works fine for me. A simple selection of of your fav. audio can 't be a problem in my opinion.

I am still thinking about shrinking the video of my 3DBD-s as well, I just do not have so much experience with FrimEncode. AFAIK FrimEncode doesn't have something like CRF mode. For my encodes, I always use fix "transparent" crf values like 18 for main movie and 20 for the extras and I generally am totally "satisfied with my care". :)

Does anyone here have experience with FrimEncode? My aim to achieve some "visual transparency" while keeping the original menus with extras and throwing out unwanted tracks.
Thanks again for any opinion shared.

[kufo]

@mparade
I did a lot of 3D movies using Frim. It´s quiet slow, but it works. On my system it´s about 16fps. A normal 2D Encode is about 10x faster... The results are fine on my beamer with a 120" screen.
i can´t say if it would be ok for you with my settings. I never had faulty encodes stay over 55% of the original size.
Make a test and watch the result.

[mparade]

Thanks. Do you use software decoding/encoding in BD-RB, right? Quality settings is set to default, right?

It seems to be quite difficult to determine a sufficient average bitrate for the VBR encodes because complexity of the source changes from one to an other. ~45% of bitrate saving sounds quite impressive, anyway. On top of it all, I would like to check the result on my small LG C6V 4K HDR (3D TV), so....

[Ch3vr0n]

jdobbs, the past couple weeks i've done a full system format (to fix an issue with the windows indexing service among other things) and to move from my Samsung 850 EVO to my Samsung 960 Pro. Naturally i'm using BDRB again and i've decided to go with LAV filters only. Now the instructions don't say if anything needs to be configured in the audio or video splitter. Do they, or are they just fine simply after installing? For the video splitter is it ok to enable nvidia cuvid/quicksync? When doing 3D should i set it to quicksync?

[kufo]

Thanks. Do you use software decoding/encoding in BD-RB, right? Quality settings is set to default, right?

Absolutly right: software decoding/encoding and quality settings to default. My last 3D projects were Star Wars VIII and Jumanji.
Even the dark scenes looked good and 3D was very impressive.
Finaly you´ll have to test it for your own, if this would fit for you.;)

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, the past couple weeks i've done a full system format (to fix an issue with the windows indexing service among other things) and to move from my Samsung 850 EVO to my Samsung 960 Pro. Naturally i'm using BDRB again and i've decided to go with LAV filters only. Now the instructions don't say if anything needs to be configured in the audio or video splitter. Do they, or are they just fine simply after installing? For the video splitter is it ok to enable nvidia cuvid/quicksync? When doing 3D should i set it to quicksync?LAV Filters should work fine with the defaults. The other settings (cuvid etc.) depend on your specific configuration. What they will do for you in most cases is increase speed. On my system I just tried them and selected the ones that worked best. You don’t need to change anything when doing 3D.

[Mark_Venture]

@jdobbs

Will BD-RB have an option for chosing DGDecNV as the frameserver for UHD-BD encodings? I have a Pascal Card and latest DGDecNV now supports decoding of HEVC upto 12-bit without any issue. I have tested it and is working flawlessly.

Thanks for this amazing software.

Right now I don’t have a card that supports it, so I have no way of testing it... so probably not for a while.
Sorry, I'm still not sure I follow the status of BD-RB and UHD.. It doesn't support it, right? (not even for UHD -> Movie only MKV)..

Did you ever decide if you'll work on it? or will it be included or BD-RB or will it be a separate program?

[Mark_Venture]

Not necessarily a bug, but not a feature either.. more of a question..

Usually I rip BD's to HD, then setup a batch of multiple movies (Alt Movie only to MKV) and walk away..

Today I ran into a disc that gave me read errors trying to rip to HD... For gins and smiles, I decided to set the sources in BD-Rebuild as the bluray drive, and proceeded to do the Alt Movie Only... If there were read errors from the disc, would BD-RB have given an error message during the process?

Since it completed without error, is it possible the movie only MKV is actually fine? (I hope to get to watch it later today or tomorrow)

[ggtop]

If there were read errors from the disc, would BD-RB have given an error message during the process?

Not necessarilly from BD-RB, but from its helper apps such as TSMuxer or the chosen frameserver. In your case it sounds like you had read errors on files that are not part of the main title.

BTW You could try to copy all files with Windows Explorer to see which file is the culprit and then examine where it belongs to.

ggtop

[LowDead]

Hi! Getting these errors lately everytime I open a BD source. I have run the inspect with everything ok. Jdobbs maybe you could point me in the right direction for further troubleshooting?

05-16-18 [01:55:37] SourceCheck() 00009 2501
05-16-18 [01:56:23] SourceCheck() 00055 2501
05-16-18 [01:57:17] SourceCheck() 00009 2501
05-16-18 [01:58:54] SourceCheck() 00055 2501
05-16-18 [02:02:36] SourceCheck() 00009 2501
05-16-18 [02:03:07] SourceCheck() 00055 2501

[05-16-18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 32,40GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[05-16-18] Systems Settings Check complete

//LD

[Ch3vr0n]

Not a 100% sure but think that error means bdrb doesn't have enough free space to work with. You need a lot more than your 32gb to do a full disclosure backup. But can't be sure since you left out half the log.

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[thecrowler]

Hi all.
For the first time, I'm experiencing a target size problem with BD Rebuilder v0.50.25.
From "inspect", everything seems to be correct (gonna paste the log).
The BD I'm trying to shrink is multi-angle and multi-playlist: the resulting shrink is 26.4 GB.
It's a full backup, BD size output setting is BD-25, quality "automatic" and "Quicker encode for extras" is enabled (if disabled, the resulting folder is even bigger).
Languages selected are eng and ita only, audio is converted from dts to ac3.
x264 internal LAVF is used for frame serving.
No "Hidden" option is used.
The system is not overclocked.
Here's the conversion log(s):
16343

[LowDead]

Not a 100% sure but think that error means bdrb doesn't have enough free space to work with. You need a lot more than your 32gb to do a full disclosure backup. But can't be sure since you left out half the log.

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I don't get any log as it doesn't open the discs.. Have tried other temp drives with alot more space so it isn't that.

//LD

Edit reason: Scratch that. Seems to be a corrupt source. Sorry for taking up your time.

//LD

[Rodger]

Hi Together....since BD-Rebuilder has not been updated....maybe because of a lack of need ;)
x264/x265 encoder had further progress. Is there any info available which versions to pick from "http://msystem.waw.pl/x265/" for example ?

[jdobbs]

@LowDead

That's a subscript out of range error... which is very odd and makes me think (at first glance) it is a corrupt source. Can you tell me what disc and region you are trying to do?

[LowDead]

@ jdobbs

Thats an US funimation release of chunibyo rikka version. Well it was a corrupt source and/or hdd. After rerip everything goes smothly.

//LD

[jdobbs]

Cool.

[Lathe]

I'm experiencing a size problem...



I've never had to worry about that...

[thecrowler]

i've never had to worry about that...

rotfl :d

[Lathe]

rotfl :d

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/bananadance.gif

[gonca]

I've never had to worry about that...

Yeah, no size, no problem LITTLE Lathe

[varekai]

I've never had to worry about that...
duh... everybody knows that it's not about size, its color and frequency that matters...

[Lathe]

duh... everybody knows that it's not about size, its color and frequency that matters...

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/laugh.gif http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif

[Ch3vr0n]

@Jdobbs and others interested. I have an update on that issue where i was unable to get Intel QuickSync to work with BDRB while having my GTX 1080 being used for actual display.

Now: as to the update. After doing some research last monday (again), i read one on of the sites that even though the iGPU would be enabled in the motherboard BIOS that it would shut itself off if no display was connected. So i though, "i wonder if there's something to simulate an attached display". So i went onto Amazon (UK), and entered "HDMI dummy plug". Lo and behold, there was. Multiple ones. So i looked through a couple and ordered this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072PV6K8J

It arrived today, i just got home, grabbed it, plugged it straight in to the onboard hdmi. Instantly an "Intel HD Graphics" icon popped up in my system tray and when i checked windows control panel > Display, there was indeed a "third monitor". So i though, i wonder if it'll work. If it doesn't back to amazon. So i loaded a 3D iso in VCD. Fired up BDRB and placed the following in the ini file "FRIM_SW_DECODE=0" and "FRIM_SW_ENCODE=0" to let everything being handled automatically. Pressed "Backup" and after about 5 min of demuxing, where it would first stall for about 10-15sec and then fail, after mere seconds the FPS started ticking... 10, 20, 30 (passed that 88 someone mentioned) and it's peaking out at 116,8!!!! fps on "Sin_City_2_3D".

So i guess it worked! Long story short, if you fail to enable FRIM quicksync with bdrb on 3D sources with a discrete graphics card used for your monitors. Grab a $10 hdmi or DVI dummy plug and install that. Problem solved!

Now to hope there won't be any graphical glitches (or has that problem that was present in early builds with hardware encoding being used) been solved?

** edit ** FPS capped out at 117.11FPS. Not bad coming from 20-24 FPS. Thats nearly x5. Multipluxing the wanted streams back together took a whopping 33 seconds :p, then proceeded to scanning the 3D CLPI info

[jdobbs]

@Ch3vr0n

Way cool!

[Ch3vr0n]

Lol and the build to ISO on my samsung 960 Pro took a whopping 50 seconds :D 99-106x.

That only leave's this @Jdobbs

Now to hope there won't be any graphical glitches (or has that problem that was present in early builds with hardware encoding being used) been solved?

Is that fixed?

**edit** nupe. Setting 0/0 results in severe pixellation issues. Guess i have some tinkering to do to find out which settings work best.

[worknstiff]

@ Ch3vr0n; RE: severe pixellation issues. Same here also. The quicksync encodes all have some pretty serious crosstalk issues. Wonder if this is why Clone doesn't do full 3D backup. Kudos to BD_Rebuilder for PERFECT 3D backups, even if slow software FRIM.

[jdobbs]

I do full speed FRIM backups on my notebook computer with no pixelation issues.. I do remember having to find the right DLLs to make it work correctly, though.

[Ch3vr0n]

0/0 and 1/0, result in pixellations. Trying 0/1 next. Are those dll's included in the current release of bdrb? If not, care to link them? Maybe my FRIM could use an update but there's no link to an officially supported version in 1st post. Found this though https://www.videohelp.com/software/FRIM. Are those the ones or are you using others. (x86 or x64) You also say dlls plural, i only have frimsource.dll in bdrb folder.

[jdobbs]

0/0 and 1/0, result in pixellations. Trying 0/1 next. Are those dll's included in the current release of bdrb? If not, care to link them? Maybe my FRIM could use an update but there's no link to an officially supported version in 1st post. Found this though https://www.videohelp.com/software/FRIM. Are those the ones or are you using others. (x86 or x64) You also say dlls plural, i only have frimsource.dll in bdrb folder.If I recall correctly, they were the DLLs that support quicksync on your PC, not the ones that come with FRIM. It's been a while, though.

[MrVideo]

So i guess it worked! Long story short, if you fail to enable FRIM quicksync with bdrb on 3D sources with a discrete graphics card used for your monitors. Grab a $10 hdmi or DVI dummy plug and install that. Problem solved!
True if:
1) You have an internal GPU chipset and
2) The internal GPU is an Intel chipset.

[Lathe]

Yeah, no size, no problem LITTLE Lathe



Was this the GIF that you had attached...? I felt bad for you, so I did a search for the name of that one. WOW, 'size' is right! :)


https://archive-media-1.nyafuu.org/bant/image/1499/81/1499810903757.gif

[Ch3vr0n]

If I recall correctly, they were the DLLs that support quicksync on your PC, not the ones that come with FRIM. It's been a while, though.

Did you just have to paste the dlls in the bdrb folder? If so, if you don't mind grabbing them for me :)

@jdobbs

i did some looking into the Intel Media SDK and found this

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=170315

Starting post 6 and beyond it becomes interesting. The glitching might be specific to the right eye stream. The fix might be

b) A broken right view is produced by bad settings in tsMuxeR (please uncheck "continually insert PPS/SPS" and CHECK "do not change SEI and VUI data" for AVC and MVC tracks)

Can you make test build for me with that setting fixed?

[mparade]

@jdobbs

In archive x264 mode, is each of the hidden and non-hidden full-backup related settings applied? Is it exactly like a full-backup mode except for using fix crf value for all of the titles including extras and secondary video streams as well?

Archive_AUDIO is only for x265 mode?
In x264 mode, Archive_CRF parameter overrides all other CRF values concurrently set as well?
If I leave ARCHIVE_QUALITY on default value while using non-auto quality settings, will my quality settings be picked up by BD-RB?

This feature sounds very promising anyway for my archiving purposes.

Thank you very much for the help.

[jdobbs]

Did you just have to paste the dlls in the bdrb folder? If so, if you don't mind grabbing them for me :)

@jdobbs

i did some looking into the Intel Media SDK and found this

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=170315

Starting post 6 and beyond it becomes interesting. The glitching might be specific to the right eye stream. The fix might be



Can you make test build for me with that setting fixed?Interesting, I hadn't seen that. Was it confirmed as fixing the issue by others? I'll put that in as a hidden option so you can test it and I'll post an interim release.

[Ch3vr0n]

No idea if it was confirmed. I stopped reading after I read about the switch. Figured I'd let you know immediately. There's only one way to find out if it'll work and that's to try it with bdrb.

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[Wolfe999]

Having just acquired a new PC for editing, was forced to migrate to Win 10. With this O.S. I suffer a constant drawback with Multiavchd ( I've been using this software for many years for multiepisodic BD's with satisfactory results): it doesn't accept my menu image and always uses its default.

Sorry for the digresion.

Decided to try a way to do it with BD-Rebuilder that I copied and kept years ago.

When I import the MKV files set in the same folder with the name of the BD I want (all mkv's are compliant), the process always aborts when it enounters latin accentuated words, in this specific case, of 12 files, 4:

-Satélite
-Tecnología
-Área
-Titánico

I'm sure there must be a way to solve it, but I wasn't able to locate it. Would appreciate any help.

Thanx :)

[jdobbs]

Did you just have to paste the dlls in the bdrb folder? If so, if you don't mind grabbing them for me :)

@jdobbs

i did some looking into the Intel Media SDK and found this

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=170315

Starting post 6 and beyond it becomes interesting. The glitching might be specific to the right eye stream. The fix might be



Can you make test build for me with that setting fixed?One thing you can do to test this is to edit the MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta file and remove the ", insertSEI" entry from the video muxing line. Then just manually run TSMUXER to create the structure using the modified meta file.

[Ch3vr0n]

yeah i'll pass. Not too savvy when it comes to running command line stuff. I can wait :)

[ggtop]

yeah i'll pass. Not too savvy when it comes to running command line stuff. I can wait :)

It's really easy :-)

Open a CMD window in your working Directory (SHIFT + right click in Win Explorer will give you the option to open a prompt) and enter:
"path/to/tsmuxer" MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta "path/to/working directory"

path/to/tsmuxer is in BD-RB tools subdirectory

That's it!

[ggtop]

Hi,

I just wanted to create an movie-only backup of "The Maze Runner" (2014). The Bluray is a combined 2 & 3D one. BD-RB setup: "Process 3D Video sources as 2D for backup".

The correct playlist is 00800.mpls which points to 00800.m2ts only. That one can also be seen in "Other movie-only playlist" dialog, but it can't be chosen. BDRB always picks others which are definitely not the main movie.

Finally I was able to convince BDRB through importing the Bluray and picking up 00800. The result is fine.

Any ideas?

ggtop

[jdobbs]

The correct playlist is 00800.mpls which points to 00800.m2ts only. That one can also be seen in "Other movie-only playlist" dialog, but it can't be chosen.Can't be chosen???? Why? What stops it from being chosen?

[ggtop]

Can't be chosen???? Why? What stops it from being chosen?

Good question. When choosing 00800 I am presented something else (00232). Interestingly choosing 0850 picks another one (00290). But BDInfo says it is the same m2ts. Strange that I (or someone else) had such an issue after a large number of backups.
BTW Same result with INI entry "Process 3D Video sources as 2D for backup" set off (IGNORE_3D=0). In that case only "3D" is shown in the VID...line.

INFO: The main movie is not in 3D. It's just some extras on the disc that are.

I made some screenshots.

ggtop

[jdobbs]

That makes no sense. BD-RB reads the M2TS information directly from the MPLS. I've never seen, nor have I previously had a report of BD-RB reading the disc information incorrectly. The MPLS info in the dialog even has the correct time for the movie.

There has to be some voodoo magic at play here.

[Lathe]

That makes no sense. BD-RB reads the M2TS information directly from the MPLS. I've never seen, nor have I previously had a report of BD-RB reading the disc information incorrectly. The MPLS info in the dialog even has the correct time for the movie.

There has to be some voodoo magic at play here.

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/voodoo.gif

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

@Jdobbs and others interested. I have an update on that issue where i was unable to get Intel QuickSync to work with BDRB while having my GTX 1080 being used for actual display...

:thanks:

Just wanted to add my thanks for this post. I had been lazy and never got around to getting QuickSync to work along with discrete graphics on my system. Now it's working. Actually a lot easier & quicker than I anticipated. Nice to have it when/if I need it.

[Ch3vr0n]

When i got my mind set to do something, you can bet your ass i'll try every damn method i can find. Even if it's in some obsure post i only found on 1 site. Turned out to be the working one too. Just a note though, after i attached that dummy plug. My main monitor no longer showed the ROG logo upon boot (applies to accessing bios too), no screen until lock screen. Seems like the onboard hdmi takes priority over that. Plug the monitor into that one and yup, visuals. But hardware decoding/encoding at least on my end currently results in severe artifacts.

So if the potentially artifact resolving tweak above doesn't fix the glitching, i'll disable QS again in the bios. I can live with a slower encode, i can't live with video artifacts :)

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

<OFF-TOPIC>

When i got my mind set to do something, you can bet your ass i'll try every damn method i can find. Even if it's in some obsure post i only found on 1 site. Turned out to be the working one too. Just a note though, after i attached that dummy plug. My main monitor no longer showed the ROG logo upon boot (applies to accessing bios too), no screen until lock screen. Seems like the onboard hdmi takes priority over that. Plug the monitor into that one and yup, visuals. But hardware decoding/encoding at least on my end currently results in severe artifacts.

So if the potentially artifact resolving tweak above doesn't fix the glitching, i'll disable QS again in the bios. I can live with a slower encode, i can't live with video artifacts :)

I don't wish to sidetrack this thread but I did want to reply to your post.

I still use DVI for my monitor. It works for my system and it's easier to setup, IMO. After adding the HDMI dummy, enabling iGFX in the BIOS, installing the drivers in Windows, etc, things are just the same at boot time. Still see the same graphics, etc, leading to logging into Windows. I'm going to speculate this is related to my using DVI for my discrete graphics which you aren't doing.

If this needs to be moved then that's fine. My apologies.

</OFF-TOPIC>

[Ch3vr0n]

actually my primairy display is hooked up via DVI to the discrete gfx, cause the hdmi is used for a standalone blu-ray player hooked (cause primairy monitor is a 3D one and so's the player). I'll tinker some more with it over summer break (1 month off work) perhaps. I know the workaround if i have to (simply hook the monitor up to the on-board hdmi). In the mean time, waiting on @jdobbs to release that test build with the potential artifact fix :)

[ggtop]

There has to be some voodoo magic at play here.

Definitely. I'll do some more testing. I just loaded the original into BDRB rather than mounted ISO with the same effect.

Maybe someone elase has the disc "The Maze Runner" as well and can try it....

ggtop

[ggtop]

There has to be some voodoo magic at play here.

Update: Copied the whole content from the mouted ISO to disk and opened that folder. That works!

Maybe something in Virtual Clone Drive...doing some more testing.

Update 2: Just tried another tool for mounting images (WinCDEmu) which behaves the same as Elby's VCD. No idea!

ggtop

[Mark_Venture]

When i got my mind set to do something, you can bet your ass i'll try every damn method i can find. Even if it's in some obsure post i only found on 1 site. Turned out to be the working one too. Just a note though, after i attached that dummy plug. My main monitor no longer showed the ROG logo upon boot (applies to accessing bios too), no screen until lock screen. Seems like the onboard hdmi takes priority over that. Plug the monitor into that one and yup, visuals. But hardware decoding/encoding at least on my end currently results in severe artifacts.

So if the potentially artifact resolving tweak above doesn't fix the glitching, i'll disable QS again in the bios. I can live with a slower encode, i can't live with video artifacts :)
On my Asus Z710-Deluxe, there is a BIOS option (on the screen where you enable the iGPU), to select iGPU or PEG as the primary adapter. I have mine set to PEG, and the GTX970 is the primary monitor and works for the bios and video before windows starts.

Oh, I'm using an HDMI splitter that I had laying around, instead of the plug you linked to. While it shows as a video card and monitor (to extend my desktop too), I haven't tried any encoding software or anything yet...

[Ch3vr0n]

I fixed the no video on boot yesterday. Primary display was set to igpu by mistake

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[Yordan5]

I am still struggling to pinpoint what caused the massive increase in transcoding time with BD-RB for the past year or so.
I keep images of my system from various points in time and yesterday did a test.
Restored an image from April 2014 that had BD-RB 47.05 installed and set the PC date back to 27-April-2014 so that BD-RB 47.05 would work (not give the expired message). Below are the details of a movie I did back then and as you can see it had taken less than two hours to complete with the highest quality setting.

[04/27/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.05 (beta)
[20:58:17] Source: CLOSED_CIRCUIT_00000
- Input BD size: 25.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:01.546]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
[20:58:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:58:17] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [20:58:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:01:04] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 138,139 frames
- Bitrate: 5,481 Kbs
- [21:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:26:27] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:53:15] Video Encode complete
- [22:53:15] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[22:55:02]PHASE ONE complete
[22:55:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:55:02] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[22:55:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:55:47] JOB: CLOSED_CIRCUIT finished.

Yesterday, with the same movie and settings and with the same hardware and software installed (image restoration) from the same point in time, took over 14 hours to complete the same movie.
I am at my wits end to understand what is causing this. Beginning to think there may be a motherboard issue developing. In the past BD-RB with the highest quality setting never took more than 3.5 hours to complete a transcode. Now it is taking in excess of 12 hours on the same hardware.

[Ch3vr0n]

@jdobbs any progress yet on that 3d test build?

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[mparade]

Hello there,

Here BD-RB doesn't want to reconfigure the default LAV settings during the first run as admin. It has only been struggling with it for several minutes and doesn't open finally. Task Manager tells it looks a very CPU and memory intensive process for BD-RB. I have win10 64 bit OS, anyone has an idea? I run it as admin as it is recommended in the first post of this thread.

Any help would be appreciated.

I have found a page that states I should buy some "PC scan and repair tool" from Reimage to make BD-RB open correctly.

[worknstiff]

@ Yordan5; RE: less than two hours to complete with the highest quality setting.

- Input BD size: 25.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:01.546]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass

WHAT QUALITY? If you are putting that much video on a DVD+R WHY???? You can buy quality BD-R's for the same price as DVD+R's now and not have to worry so much about the highest quality compression.

[musiclover]

I always wondered why I couldn't get BDRB to make a dvd from a 50 fps source. But today it went flawless after I unchecked the option "Assume PAL for DVD output". So I think BDRB has a bug that allowes it to make a NTSC dvd from a 50 fps source but fails to encode a PAL dvd from the same source.

Here is the log:
---------------------
[17:05:39] Importing TS: BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND
- Preparing TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[17:10:40] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------

This is the attempt to make a PAL dvd
----------------------
[05-26-18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[17:12:11] Source: BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND
- Input BD size: 1.81 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:44:57.079]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:12:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:12:11] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:12:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:13:58] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1280x720
- Rate/Length: 50.000fps, 134,854 frames
- Bitrate: 8,776 Kbs
- [17:13:59] Reencoding: VID_00000
[17:14:11] - Failed video encode, aborted
----------------------

And this is making the NTSC dvd
----------------------
[05-26-18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[17:14:40] Source: BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND
- Input BD size: 1.81 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:44:57.079]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:14:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:14:46] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:14:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:16:37] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1280x720
- Rate/Length: 50.000fps, 134,854 frames
- Bitrate: 8,776 Kbs
- [17:16:37] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [17:52:38] Video Encode complete
- [17:52:38] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[17:53:06]PHASE ONE complete
[17:53:06]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:53:06] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [17:53:06] Starting MPLEX.
- [17:55:26] Building DVD File Structure.
[17:58:37] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:58:38] JOB: BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND_DVD finished.

[Lathe]

I am still struggling to pinpoint what caused the massive increase in transcoding time with BD-RB for the past year or so.
I keep images of my system from various points in time and yesterday did a test.
Restored an image from April 2014 that had BD-RB 47.05 installed and set the PC date back to 27-April-2014 so that BD-RB 47.05 would work (not give the expired message). Below are the details of a movie I did back then and as you can see it had taken less than two hours to complete with the highest quality setting.

[04/27/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.05 (beta)
[20:58:17] Source: CLOSED_CIRCUIT_00000
- Input BD size: 25.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:01.546]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
[20:58:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:58:17] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [20:58:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:01:04] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 138,139 frames
- Bitrate: 5,481 Kbs
- [21:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:26:27] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:53:15] Video Encode complete
- [22:53:15] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[22:55:02]PHASE ONE complete
[22:55:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:55:02] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[22:55:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:55:47] JOB: CLOSED_CIRCUIT finished.

Yesterday, with the same movie and settings and with the same hardware and software installed (image restoration) from the same point in time, took over 14 hours to complete the same movie.
I am at my wits end to understand what is causing this. Beginning to think there may be a motherboard issue developing. In the past BD-RB with the highest quality setting never took more than 3.5 hours to complete a transcode. Now it is taking in excess of 12 hours on the same hardware.

Wow! For that high of a setting and that much compression, that is REALLY fast Bro! You must have one of the first working prototype Quantum Computers...

[Lathe]

@ Yordan5; RE: less than two hours to complete with the highest quality setting.

- Input BD size: 25.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:01.546]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass

WHAT QUALITY? If you are putting that much video on a DVD+R WHY???? You can buy quality BD-R's for the same price as DVD+R's now and not have to worry so much about the highest quality compression.

Heh... well, that IS true :) However, be that as it may, the point here is that he IS doing that (for better or worse) and doing it DAMN fast! I'd sure love to know which Photon processor and what Holographic memory he is using... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif

[Yordan5]

In today’s terms my PC is a little outdated:

Intel Core i7-4770K (no overclocking)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750
RAM: 8 Gb
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45
Windows 7 64bit

What I cannot understand is why after an image restore on the same hardware, with the same software, to the same point back in time when it was taking no more than 3.5 hrs in the worst case scenario movie, now it takes overnight to complete the same movie.

Leaving the discussion "why I'm shrinking movies to 4.35 Gb" aside (I do it for quality comparision purposes), I'd really like to understand the tremendous increase in system's time to perform the same exercise.

Initially I thought It was the new versions of x264 and x265 included with BD-RB and thought the image restore test with BD-RB from that point in time should work the way it did back then. No hardware or software changes.
I keep Automatic Updates turned off on my system and unless somehow it has managed to install an update for “Meltdown” or “Spectre” into the processor itself, or a possible hardware fault developing, I cannot think of much else. This issue is only affecting BD-RB.

[varekai]

@Yordan5
I'm amazed that you only got 3.5 hours at that compression!
Why do you compress that much? Please explain?
If this was an BD-RB issue there would be lots of posts here.

You could use this tool to enable/disable “Meltdown” and “Spectre”.
Check if you have protection enabled, if that is the case disable it.
Reboot your machine and do a new encode.
You can then enable “Meltdown” and “Spectre”.
https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm

[Ch3vr0n]

Windows itself loads spectre/meltdown patches on boot (if you don't have bios ones). That said, they affect windows and windows only. There's NO IMPACT on third party applications at all. Disabling them even for a minute is a bad idea

[Yordan5]

@Yordan5
...
Why do you compress that much? Please explain?
...


As I mentioned in my post, I do it for Quality comparison purposes.
I check the Picture Quality of a very compressed copy (4.35 Gb, English stereo audio) against the PQ of a copy that has been compressed around 50% of the original (keeping original English audio track). I have to say that I am pressed to tell the difference on a 65 inch TV. I also do checks against CloneBD results and BD-RB always wins, but these are just my personal findings.
I always preferred to do movie transcodes with BD-RB (taking between 2 and 3.5 hrs) instead of CloneBD that takes around 15 min. to do the same job with Nvidia hardware acceleration enabled but producing slightly inferior Picture Quality.
However, now that BD-RB takes overnight for such tasks, using the other software makes a more compelling case.
I am fairly certain it is not BD-RB causing this “issue” and that is why I am trying to understand what else it might be.
By the way, the tool you linked to states that my system does not have Intel microcode installed for Spectre and Meltdown, so that’s ruled out.

[Lathe]

As I mentioned in my post, I do it for Quality comparison purposes.
I check the Picture Quality of a very compressed copy (4.35 Gb, English stereo audio) against the PQ of a copy that has been compressed around 50% of the original (keeping original English audio track). I have to say that I am pressed to tell the difference on a 65 inch TV. I also do checks against CloneBD results and BD-RB always wins, but these are just my personal findings.
I always preferred to do movie transcodes with BD-RB (taking between 2 and 3.5 hrs) instead of CloneBD that takes around 15 min. to do the same job with Nvidia hardware acceleration enabled but producing slightly inferior Picture Quality.
However, now that BD-RB takes overnight for such tasks, using the other software makes a more compelling case.
I am fairly certain it is not BD-RB causing this “issue” and that is why I am trying to understand what else it might be.
By the way, the tool you linked to states that my system does not have Intel microcode installed for Spectre and Meltdown, so that’s ruled out.

Wow, I guess that just shows how really good BDRB is...

(uh oh... JD's head is getter bigger!)

[Yordan5]

Wow, I guess that just shows how really good BDRB is...

(uh oh... JD's head is getter bigger!)

As JD has stated several times, it is x264 producing the amazing PQ after compression. BD-RB is giving us the tools to play with the settings of the encoder.

[jdobbs]

As JD has stated several times, it is x264 producing the amazing PQ after compression. BD-RB is giving us the tools to play with the settings of the encoder.BD-RB does a whole lot more than that... but, yes, X264 should get the credit for the high quality encodes.

[Jake802]

Is there anyway to get BD Rebuilder and RipBot to exist together? Once I run RipBot it installs some sort of modified version of AviSynth and the only way to get BD Rebuilder to work is uninstall all my AviSynth's and reinstall normal AviSynth.

[Blurayhd]

Jdobbs As we know Bd rebuilder has an option for shutdown the computer when the jbo is finish but sometimes I let my computer all night encoding but for some razon the encoding just abort and my computer obviously dont turn of, so because that I wish to ask you there´s any possibility that you can add an option for shutdown the computer even if the encoding job just get any error? So Bd rebuilder detect the job was interrupted and just shutdown? I´ll so appreciate it, if you could add this function?

[varekai]

Is there anyway to get BD Rebuilder and RipBot to exist together? Once I run RipBot it installs some sort of modified version of AviSynth and the only way to get BD Rebuilder to work is uninstall all my AviSynth's and reinstall normal AviSynth.
Look here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1836151#post1836151

[MrVideo]

I have a really weird problem. (Win7-64)

Here is the log:[06:12:26] Importing: VIDEO_1
- [06:12:28] Importing video file: (1 of 1)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [06:13:32] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[06:13:43] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[06:13:51] Importing: VIDEO_2
- [06:13:53] Importing video file: (1 of 1)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [06:15:27] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[06:15:36] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[06:15:43] Importing: VIDEO_3
- [06:15:44] Importing video file: (1 of 1)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [06:17:31] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[06:17:41] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[06:30:53] Importing: S3-D3
- [06:31:04] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[06:32:27]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
----------------------
[06:41:46] Importing: S3-D3
- [06:41:51] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[06:43:38]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
----------------------
[06:45:51] Importing: S3-D3
- [06:45:58] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[06:46:40]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
----------------------
[06:57:18] Importing: S3-D3
- [06:57:29] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[06:58:51]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
----------------------
[14:18:39] Importing: S3-D3
- [14:18:46] Importing video file: (1 of 2)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[14:20:05]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
BDRB has no issues when the videos are worked on separately. But, do it with any two and BDRB errors out. Unfortunately BDRB does not report what the source issue is. Therefore, no idea what it is trying to correct.

As a side note, the first two discs worth of videos had no issues. Just tried working on D4, but it has other issues. So, I converted a M2TS file to MKV and BDRB said that it had inconsistancies. Huh? It was the same program the converted the D3 files to MKV and BDRB didn't complain about those.

Not my day.

[Lathe]

I have a really weird problem...

We know... and that is why we all here really try to be understanding and patient with you...

[jdobbs]

I always wondered why I couldn't get BDRB to make a dvd from a 50 fps source. But today it went flawless after I unchecked the option "Assume PAL for DVD output". So I think BDRB has a bug that allowes it to make a NTSC dvd from a 50 fps source but fails to encode a PAL dvd from the same source.
...Can you show the content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set?

[musiclover]

Can you show the content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set?

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,576)
ConvertToYV12().ConvertFPS(25000,1000)
------------------------------------------------

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" NOT set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,480)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(50000,1000)

[MrVideo]

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,576)
ConvertToYV12().ConvertFPS(25000,1000)
50 frames/sec is not a legal DVD frame rate. Not even a legal BD frame rate. 25 fps is the 576i/p frame rate. So, the ConvertFPS is correct.
content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" NOT set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,480)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(50000,1000)
Again, 50 fps is not a legal value. For 480i/p video, the legal frame rate is 30 (29.97). So, the AssumeFPS is incorrect on two counts.

[Sharc]

50 frames/sec is not a legal DVD frame rate. Not even a legal BD frame rate. 25 fps is the 576i/p frame rate. So, the ConvertFPS is correct.

Again, 50 fps is not a legal value. For 480i/p video, the legal frame rate is 30 (29.97). So, the AssumeFPS is incorrect on two counts.

Well, 1280x720 16:9 progressive 50 fps is a legal BD format

[jdobbs]

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,576)
ConvertToYV12().ConvertFPS(25000,1000)
------------------------------------------------

content of the AVS file when trying to do the conversion with "Assume PAL for DVD output" NOT set

#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
DirectshowSource("G:\WORK\IMPORTS\BBC_BIGGEST_WEEKEND\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=50, framecount=134854, audio=false)
BilinearResize(720,480)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(50000,1000)This makes no sense to me based on the code I looked at yesterday. The fist one is what I would expect to see with that setting... and I have no idea why it would generate an error. The second one should be impossible when your output is set to DVD.

I guess I'll have to grab me a 720p/50fps source and trace it to see how it can happen.

[MrVideo]

Well, 1280x720 16:9 progressive 50 fps is a legal BD format
Not for the image sizes under discussion.

[jdobbs]

@musiclover

Well at least I know why you are getting the error with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set. BD-RB was improperly using ConvertFPS(). In that instance is should have been using ChangeFPS() so frames would be dropped.

[musiclover]

@musiclover

Well at least I know why you are getting the error with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set. BD-RB was improperly using ConvertFPS(). In that instance is should have been using ChangeFPS() so frames would be dropped.

And shouldn't the same go for when "Assume PAL for DVD output" is NOT set?

[jdobbs]

And shouldn't the same go for when "Assume PAL for DVD output" is NOT set?That is a different problem -- especially why it keeps it at 50fps. I just haven't looked at that yet.

[musiclover]

That is a different problem -- especially why it keeps it at 50fps. I just haven't looked at that yet.

There is no hurry. Thanks for the quick respons.

[Blurayhd]

Dear Jdobbs please dont get me wrong with this I need to ask you and my English is not perfect but as you know Im doing my best. The other day I need to make a backup copy of one of my Bd50 Bluray movies so, BD rebuilder show me an error and I have to use a third program (I writing that correct?) DVDfab with GPU encode movie and that program do the job in almost 40 minutes and the image on my tv 55 was amazing, so because that I so wish to ask you if BD rebuilder could have the GPU encode option I´ll get the same best quality that if I encode with x264? Please Jdobbs if Im breaking any rules please let me know and forget this post I really appreciate Bd rebuilder, I use it and I really hope the next release. I so wish if you can answer me that

Please have a nice day!!

[jdobbs]

I'll tell you... you are not getting the same quality from anywhere else that you can get from X264. Also, the generic term "GPU" could mean multiple things as there are more than one kind of GPU.

Now, if I understand correctly, you are asking me to change my Mercedes so it performs more like a Fiat because you tried the Fiat and it was good enough for you. Does that sum it up?

[Lathe]

I'll tell you... you are not getting the same quality from anywhere else that you can get from X264. Also, the generic term "GPU" could mean multiple things as there are more than one kind of GPU.

Now, if I understand correctly, you are asking me to change my Mercedes so it performs more like a Fiat because you tried the Fiat and it was good enough for you. Does that sum it up?

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/doh.gif

[MrVideo]

I had to re-run a build because I needed to change the background menu image. But, for some reason it now fails:
BD Master Toolkit experienced an error 4000 (17:16:53)
Create Quick Menu() 00076 4000
During: Building menu structure [1]
Current progress 98.90%

I tried it twice. The reason for that is because I also keep getting Permission errors, which go away with a 2nd run. It would be nice to know why I keep getting permission errors.

UPDATE: BDRB is constantly getting BD Master Toolkit errors.

FOUND THE BUG:

MENU_ITEMS_PAGE=6
Kinda works. If there are 17 videos, only two menus are created, when there should have been 3 (6, 6, 5)
MENU_ITEMS_PAGE=4,3,2
Fails with the BD Master Toolkit error. There are 9 videos in the case, If I set it for 5/page, then it works.

I'm pretty sure that I've done a comma separated list before, but it was on the XP-64 box. This is on the Win7-64 box.

BUG UPDATE:

I wanted to look at the menus for the run that only created 2 with 17 items. But, the overall size was too large for the media, so I re-ran it with one less video (16 total) and it created 3 menus.

I've been testing all morning and it is hit-n-miss. Sometimes the comma separated page list works and sometimes it doesn't. I've not found a pattern. Need more info in the log as to why it is failing. I'm hoping that it isn't my W7 that is the issue.

It just might be. I copied all of the files for one of the discs to the XP-64 box and it ran to completion.

[Mark_Venture]

I'll tell you... you are not getting the same quality from anywhere else that you can get from X264. Also, the generic term "GPU" could mean multiple things as there are more than one kind of GPU.

Now, if I understand correctly, you are asking me to change my Mercedes so it performs more like a Fiat because you tried the Fiat and it was good enough for you. Does that sum it up?I have to agree, I'm very happy with your "Mercedes" as it is.. don't change it! :D

I've tried other apps to back up my blurays... but I keep using BD-Rebuilder... the others use "GPU acceleration" like Cuda or QuickSync, etc.. so while they are much faster (especially if I've already ripped the bluray to my hard drive)... their resulting video quality isn't as good.

For example, one other tool I can convert a 2D Movie Only MKV in 15 minutes or less from hard drive, where as BD-RB it takes about an hour. No matter what settings I use, while it make take a little longer, the MKV produced by BD-RB always looks better, so the wait is worth it!


If you ever feel the desire to add "GPU", please make it an option, so we can select/deselect it...

[Sharc]

@musiclover

Well at least I know why you are getting the error with "Assume PAL for DVD output" set. BD-RB was improperly using ConvertFPS(). In that instance is should have been using ChangeFPS() so frames would be dropped.
Would it perhaps make sense to make an interlaced DVD out of the 1280x720 50fps progressive source, instead of dropping every 2nd frame?

[jdobbs]

Would it perhaps make sense to make an interlaced DVD out of the 1280x720 50fps progressive source, instead of dropping every 2nd frame?You'd essentially be doing the same thing -- as you'd have to drop every even or odd line of alternating frames during encoding if you made it interlaced. Personally I'd rather have a 25fps progressive souce than an interlaced one.

[Sharc]

You'd essentially be doing the same thing -- as you'd have to drop every even or odd line of alternating frames during encoding if you made it interlaced. Personally I'd rather have a 25fps progressive souce than an interlaced one.
Yes, but I was thinking of preserving the temporal resolution for high motion scenes. The bobbing deinterlacers of TVs are pretty good these days.
A matter of the source and personal preference, probably.

[MrVideo]

Yes, but I was thinking of preserving the temporal resolution for high motion scenes. The bobbing deinterlacers of TVs are pretty good these days.
But, you will lose the temporal resolution when the two fields are joined into one. You have to display the interlaced video as interlaced in order to keep it. But, no TV does interlaced these days.

[Blurayhd]

I'll tell you... you are not getting the same quality from anywhere else that you can get from X264. Also, the generic term "GPU" could mean multiple things as there are more than one kind of GPU.

Now, if I understand correctly, you are asking me to change my Mercedes so it performs more like a Fiat because you tried the Fiat and it was good enough for you. Does that sum it up?

Jdobbs you are amazing buddy I so appreciate your sense of humor, you make me laugh and I never change your Bd rebuilder, like I said I had to use that other program with GPU mode because and error and because that my question.

Bd rebuilder is the only think that I really trust on quality terms and if you can tell when you spect to relese next release?

PS: could you add the option to extract the audio/subtitle files so I dont need other program else? I mean, I so wish to use Bd rebuilder for all

[Jake802]

Look here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1836151#post1836151

I will! Thanks!

[Sharc]

But, you will lose the temporal resolution when the two fields are joined into one. You have to display the interlaced video as interlaced in order to keep it. But, no TV does interlaced these days.
The monitors are progressive, yes, but the TV or player will deinterlace (bob-deinterlace) interlaced content (broadcasted or from DVD or BD) without just throwing one field away and loosing the temporal resolution. How it is exactly done depends on the (smart) playback device.
Many TV station broadcast HD at 1080i, means interlaced, and the TV takes care of smart deinterlacing and playing it back at double rate (or even higher) without disregarding the temporal information which is available in the source.
So if the temporal resolution is available in a source, one might be interested in preserving it (at the cost of spatial resolution in motion scenes), which would eventually mean encoding as interlaced in the case of DVD.
Just a thought, not a request for BD-RB, as there are pros and cons.

[MrVideo]

The monitors are progressive, yes, but the TV or player will deinterlace (bob-deinterlace) interlaced content (broadcasted or from DVD or BD) without just throwing one field away and loosing the temporal resolution. How it is exactly done depends on the (smart) playback device.
I didn't say it would throw a field away. The two fields are combined into a single frame, reducing the temporal info in half.
Many TV station broadcast HD at 1080i, means interlaced, and the TV takes care of smart deinterlacing and playing it back at double rate (or even higher) without disregarding the temporal information which is available in the source.
Not many, but all broadcast TV, in the states anyway, is 720p or 1080i. No 1080p. It depends on the TV. those that do not do 60, 120, or more, will do as I mentioned, and combine the two fields into a single frame.

[MrVideo]

I've run into an issue of text vertical placement. I only have two lines that I want to place starting at 950, but BDRB refuses to place the text there. Instead it is placed around 200. Is there a lower limit?

[jdobbs]

I've run into an issue of text vertical placement. I only have two lines that I want to place starting at 950, but BDRB refuses to place the text there. Instead it is placed around 200. Is there a lower limit?Are you talking about menu text? If so, look at the MENU_HORIZONTAL, MENU_VERTICAL, and MENU_TOP hidden options. There is an upper limit of 910 on MENU_VERTICAL and MENU_TOP, I'm guessing that's your issue? If you go above that it defaults to 200.

[MrVideo]

There is an upper limit of 910 on MENU_VERTICAL and MENU_TOP, I'm guessing that's your issue?
Yes, it is. OK, I'm reworking the background image so that I won't run into this issue.

Thanks for the info.

[mparade]

Using Frim Encoder for MVC encoding with BD-RB on a 16-core AMD system results in very similar processing speed with the same encoding settings as a 4-core Intel system. I am using software encoding/decoding setting within the Intel system as well of course. When changed to x264 the speed difference between the two systems expanded roughly as per the core counts. Any idea? When using AMD systems with Frim Encoder is it the correct behaviour or should I set up something specifically?

Thanks for the support.

[kufo]

@mparade
Did you set the number of free processors in the hidden opts?
I'm using an Intel system as well, but with Frim the CPU usage is almost about 60%.
I think there's no advantage in it using more than 6 cores, so I set the
the number of free processors to 2. I'm working with an i7-4790K, witch has 8 Cores in HT.

[mparade]

No.

I have an Intel i5 system (with Nvidia Geforce 1080Ti card installed) and an AMD Ryzen 1950X System (with Nvidia Geforce 1050Ti card intalled). Using Frim with exactly the same settings the encoding time on both nearly the same.
I suspect that the more powerful video card can compensate for the less of CPU cores.


Thank you for the answer.

[ggtop]

Hi jdobbs,

I think I found a bug in the forced-sub-extraction-routine.
I'm doing alternate output into mp4 container.

First my understanding how it is designed:
During extraction step all sub tracks are demuxed. If FORCED_SUB_LANG (DEU;GER in my case) is set this or these sub streams are scanned for forced subs following this order and stream number down.
If forced subs are found they'll be put into the 9999 stream. And these come only from 1(!) stream.

Now I have a multipart source (Hancock) which has unfortunately forced subs in 2 GER subs streams (normal & director's comments). I think that's legal because always one is hidden in two different playlists. But that is not respected by BDRB (good idea btw).
Obviously the same approach as above takes place here. On each part of the multipart source the subs are scanned and the forced ones are extracted.
But in some parts the normal stream has no forced subs, but the director's comments has and those are now in the 9999 file.

A possible solution could be to remember the sub stream number from the first part where ALL forced subs were extracted to a 9999 file and to use only this stream for searching forced subs or to disable a stream completely from the stream tab. While writing I think the latter is a bad idea because I don't know if I need to keep a track before BDRD demuxed it and I can analyse it.

I hope you could follow my attempt to explain it.

If case you have an idea for a workaround I'm also fine with it as it seems to be a very rare case.

Thanks in advance,

ggtop

[kufo]

@mparade

I had to revise my last post ( #27404 ) because it was flawed. I forgot to change the keyboard language on my smartphone and did not read it carefully ... :-P
You are certainly right with your assumption about the interaction between CPU utilization and graphics card. I've seen it with me when I exchanged the very old 760GTX for the 1060 with 6GB memory.
My suggestion: Use a tool that shows the CPU usage during the encode. Depending on how tall you are, you can try to work with more cores. If you stay well below 100%, that only makes sense for multitasking during the encode.
I hope that helps you find an answer!

[mparade]

Yes and thank you very much. I will check both my CPU and GPU utilization during both Frim and x264 in BD-RB. I guess using x264 it will be very close to 100%, and it might be much lower using Frim.

[MrVideo]

Any particular reason why BDRB wants to error out when trying to convert M2TS files that were created with tsmuxer? All BDRB indicates is that it has an error. No reason given. If I take that same M2TS file and create a MKV file, BDRB has no issue with it. BDRB has not liked any of the M2TS files that I've created with tsmuxer. Curious.

[Lathe]

Any particular reason why BDRB wants to error out when trying to convert M2TS files that were created with tsmuxer? All BDRB indicates is that it has an error. No reason given. If I take that same M2TS file and create a MKV file, BDRB has no issue with it. BDRB has not liked any of the M2TS files that I've created with tsmuxer. Curious.

I know this doesn't answer what you are asking, but since you are using TSMuxer to create the m2ts file in the first place, why not simply create the full BDMV folder instead and then use that as input into BDRB...? Because, I'm GUESSING that when you try to import an m2ts file into BDRB, it is going to create one anyway, right?

[MrVideo]

BD Master Toolkit experienced an error 4000 (17:16:53)
Create Quick Menu() 00076 4000
During: Building menu structure [1]
Current progress 98.90%

Any update as to why this error is occurring when trying to build multi-page menus? Only happens under Win7-64. The last one that I was working with, worked under XP-64.

[jdobbs]

Any update as to why this error is occurring when trying to build multi-page menus? Only happens under Win7-64. The last one that I was working with, worked under XP-64.All I can say is that the error means "Path not found". I can't repeat the error and I don't remember any other reports of it, so I'm not sure what I can do.

[Ch3vr0n]

Any news on that test build @jdobbs with that hidden option for 3D we discussed?

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[MrVideo]

All I can say is that the error means "Path not found".
So much for Win7 being a "better" OS than the previous versions. :( Why it wants to screw up when trying to do the 2nd menu set of files is beyond me, considering when it had no problem with the paths for all of the previous files.

Probably also explains the "permission" error I get every now and then, i.e., trying to create a directory/file.

For these two errors (and also HDD full), how about adding a dialog box that reports the actual error and an option to "try again?" Having to start over wastes a lot of time.

Leave it to my combination of hardware and Win7 to come up with these errors.

UPDATE: No mater how many times that I rerun this particular job, it always fails trying to build the 2nd menu. If it were an intermittent W7 thing, then it should work the next time around. It doesn't. There has to be a way to troubleshoot this.

As a side note, when doing one of the runs on the XP-64 box, I got a file not found error. Re-running it had no errors. Also, when running out of HDD space, BDRB does not handle that gracefully. It gives errors while processing files. For example, with MKVs, it complains about inconsistencies and tries to correct them, only to fail. It took a while before I noticed that I was running out of space.

[spotswood]

I used the new DTS Express switch to backup Star Trek The Original Series season 1 disc 1. The disc uses seamless branching and has a PIP for commentary.

The CPI definitely gets changed by the DTS-Express code. When the DTS Express is added to the M2TS the SPN values change and the table has to be updated. I'll look and see if there is something goofy happening there. The fact that there is PiP and Angles might make a difference.

Hi everyone... having a weird problem with this series as well. Not sure if the above from a while back have anything to do with it but... a couple episodes have PiP/dts express and the rest don't. They all include DTS-MA 7.1 audio which is overkill in my opinion, so I uncheck the Keep HD Audio for BD25 intact and check Do Not convert DTS to AC3 so it keeps the DTS core (@768k in this case).

Problem is BDRebuilder is not using the DTS core soundtrack and leaving the DTS-MA intact. Also when trying to play the Corbomite Maneuver with the original graphics from the beginning, it starts about 10 minutes in and freezes, having to go back to the main menu. The same episode with updated graphics plays fine, albeit with the DTS-MA audio rather than the core.

Any ideas? Thanks for any help you can provide... ;^)

[MrVideo]

Sub-title forced not forcing sub-title to be on. The MediaInfo that comes with v25 shows that sub-title track #3 is forced=yes. Yet, when playing the video, no sub-title track is on. Track #3 must be manually enabled in the BD player.

[mparade]

@jdobbs

Do you plan importing 4K HDR material as well with the next release for alternate output?


Thank you very for this wonderful software.

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

I have been using BDRebuilder a lot, and I recently started using it to put multiple episodes of TV shows from DVD onto one BD. I copy the DVDs to my HDD as MKV files and then import the MKV files into BDRebuilder, but when I do, they come over without any subs. I presume there is some setting that I have set incorrectly, but I've looked through them all and can't figure it out.

Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks.

SMK

[Ch3vr0n]

Well first thing you'd need to do is find out whether bdrb "is to blame" or your mkv conversion suite. You need to first find out if the MKV's have the desired subtitles or not, because if they don't that's your problem and bdrb can't use what isn't there.

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

I use MakeMKV to rip the discs, and all the subtitles are in those MKV files.

SMK

[musiclover]

Why make use of mkv as intermediary? You can import the dvd's as is.

[Sharc]

Why make use of mkv as intermediary? You can import the dvd's as is.
Yes, but the DVD needs to be decrypted. I understand the OP used MakeMKV to decrypt the DVD source.

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

Correct. Also, the one time I tried directly using a ripped DVD, I couldn't figure out how to put episodes from more than one DVD together because the VOB files are all named the same.

SMK

[jdobbs]

Correct. Also, the one time I tried directly using a ripped DVD, I couldn't figure out how to put episodes from more than one DVD together because the VOB files are all named the same.

SMKYou name them when they are imported.

[MrVideo]

I use MakeMKV to rip the discs, and all the subtitles are in those MKV files.
And you know that how?

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

You name them when they are imported.

My understanding is that BDRebuilder will only import files that are in the same folder. How can I put VOB files from multiple DVDs in one folder as they will all have the same names there???

SMK

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

And you know that how?

Because if I play those MKV files on my computer with either VLC or MPC the subtitles are all listed, and I can choose any of them, and they appear on screen. Also, if I use multiAVCHD, those subtitles are in the m2ts files it creates. I prefer to use BDRebuilder, but I've been using multiAVCHD for these discs just for that reason.

SMK

[Ch3vr0n]

Your understanding is wrong. It's simple. Just create a root folder like:

DVDs
-- DVD1
---- VIDEO_TS
-- DVD2
---- VIDEO_TS
-- DVD3
---- VIDEO_TS

and point BDRB to the DVD's folder, it will do the rest

[jdobbs]

Your understanding is wrong. It's simple. Just create a root folder like:

DVDs
-- DVD1
---- VIDEO_TS
-- DVD2
---- VIDEO_TS
-- DVD3
---- VIDEO_TS

and point BDRB to the DVD's folder, it will do the restExactly.

[RoyGBiv-inRI]

Thank you for the info. I will try it.

SMK

[Lathe]

Thank you for the info. I will try it.

SMK

Yeah, sometimes when you haven't done it before, it takes a moment to grasp that. You do the same when importing multiple BDMV folders too. I do that sometimes when I don't want to do the whole disc, but I want the main movie file and some Xtras. So, each BDMV / CERT folder is in it's OWN folder which is titled whatever it is, then all of those folders you group within one master folder, which is the one you import into BDRB. So, as shown above, in my case there is usually the main movie folder with it's name, then 1 folder for each Xtra with it's title with it's own BDMV / CERT folders inside. Then, you just put all those folders into the mother folder above it. I usually just leave the mother folder as 'New Folder' because the name doesn't get used anywhere, and then import that mother folder into BDRB.

Then BDRB allows you to rename each folder if you wish before it imports them into a completed BDMV / CERT final folder which incorporates all the other folders along with a nice menu inside.

***EDIT

Also, when using BDMV folders as mentioned above, I THINK that the running time is included with each 'title' that you import. So, if you don't have enough room to hold the full title AND running times, you can edit those before BDRB imports them. I'm guessing that the same is true with DVDs...

[MrVideo]

Because if I play those MKV files on my computer with either VLC or MPC the subtitles are all listed, and I can choose any of them, and they appear on screen.
For trouble-shooting purposes, I had to ask. It is always a good idea to provide said proof when making a claim.

[rysktkr]

I have been using BD Rebuilder for a long time. Suddenly I am getting this error "BD Master Toolkit experienced an error 2301". on all BDs that I try to compress movie only. I reinstalled BD Rebulder and LAV filters but that did not help. I searched this thread for the 2301 error but couldn't anything. Any ideas?

[jdobbs]

I have been using BD Rebuilder for a long time. Suddenly I am getting this error "BD Master Toolkit experienced an error 2301". on all BDs that I try to compress movie only. I reinstalled BD Rebulder and LAV filters but that did not help. I searched this thread for the 2301 error but couldn't anything. Any ideas?I'd need the entire message. 2301 is where the error occurred, not the error number.

I need to change that "BD Master Toolkit" text, it just confuses people. I was going to create a set of DLLs that could be linked into another program and I changed the text on the error handler. I forgot to change it back.

[rysktkr]

Here's the entire dialog:

"BD Master Toolkit experienced an error 2301 MovieOnlyRebuild() 00075 2301"

[mparade]

If I want to help development of BD-RB with donation what to enter as the email of the recipient? Sorry for asking it, but I have just forgotten the way of donating. :scared:

Thanks for the reply.

[Lathe]

If I want to help development of BD-RB with donation what to enter as the email of the recipient? Sorry for asking it, but I have just forgotten the way of donating. :scared:

Thanks for the reply.

Good for you mate! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif

Just send all donations to 'lathe.of.heaven@gmail.com' and they will be promptly forwarded... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/rolleyes2.gif

http://rs16.pbsrc.com/albums/b45/sbreik/animated%20images/devil%20angel/angelsmiley43d.gif~c200

No, don't do that... :)

[ggtop]

If I want to help development of BD-RB with donation what to enter as the email of the recipient? Sorry for asking it, but I have just forgotten the way of donating. :scared:


Hi mparade,

last time I used dvd-rb[at]jdobbs.net and jdobbs received it.

ggtop

[Lathe]

Hi mparade,

last time I used dvd-rb[at]jdobbs.net and jdobbs received it.

ggtop

Could you use PayPal with that address...?

[mparade]

Good for you mate! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif

Just send all donations to 'lathe.of.heaven@gmail.com' and they will be promptly forwarded... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/rolleyes2.gif

http://rs16.pbsrc.com/albums/b45/sbreik/animated%20images/devil%20angel/angelsmiley43d.gif~c200

No, don't do that... :)

Sent. :cool:

[mparade]

Hi mparade,

last time I used dvd-rb[at]jdobbs.net and jdobbs received it.

ggtop

thx! Since, it is long time ago I made some donation the last time, it is high time now I sent more than the average. : )

[Ch3vr0n]

For some reason PayPal doesn't want to do business with jdobbs. Same reason as always 'bdrb assists in copyright infringement'.

Just use the donate option inside the software. It'll link you to an Amazon gift card. Use that.

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[Lathe]

Sent. :cool:

OH NO! I'm toast! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/doh.gif

[ggtop]

Could you use PayPal with that address...?

No, for an Amazon gift card where the "donation" link in jdobbs footer directs you. Now jdobbs has to spend the millions in buying things from them like toothpaste, bread etc.

BTW I could use Paypal 12 years ago when donating for DVD-RB :-)

ggtop

[Lathe]

No, for an Amazon gift card where the "donation" link in jdobbs footer directs you. Now jdobbs has to spend the millions in buying things from them like toothpaste, bread etc.

BTW I could use Paypal 12 years ago when donating for DVD-RB :-)

ggtop

Yeah, I kind of thought so, thanks mate!

[jdobbs]

If I want to help development of BD-RB with donation what to enter as the email of the recipient? Sorry for asking it, but I have just forgotten the way of donating. :scared:

Thanks for the reply.The address is on the help menu next to where it says donations (dvd-rb@jdobbs.net).

[jdobbs]

Sent. :cool:It wasn't sent to me... not sure where you sent it.

[Lathe]

It wasn't sent to me... not sure where you sent it.

No, no, no...! He was just kidding. DAMN, I'm gonna get in trouble here!

BTW, JD... I know I mentioned this before, but wouldn't it just be simpler to set up a simple, private e'mail address like 'JD@gmail' or whatever, so that we could send you actual money? Wouldn't that be better?

[MrVideo]

DAMN, I'm gonna get in trouble here!
Since when are you NOT in trouble? :D

[Lathe]

Since when are you NOT in trouble? :D

Good point... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/cool4.gif

[RobertM]

Well, I, for one, am glad about your 'joke'. It reminded me that it's been quite a while since I last donated. Hope that got through.

[jdobbs]

Wow! I had two donations in my inbox this morning! That's more than I had in the last month! Thanks, guys, I really appreciate it. Now... to decide what discs I want to buy for testing...

[Ch3vr0n]

Well, I'm still a bit financially restricted, but anxiously awaiting the next build with that hidden option for the SEI data. If it works, I'll definitely do another of a (for me at least) sizeable amount.

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[Lathe]

Now... to decide what discs I want to buy for testing...

One I think you would like, if I can remember the title... I think it has the name Debbie in it, but I can't seem to recall the rest...

[MrVideo]

I think it has the name Debbie in it, but I can't seem to recall the rest...
I know! I know! ...
Debbie Does Lathe :eek:

[Mark_Venture]

Ripped Pacific Rim 2D Blu-ray and 3D Blu-ray to my hard drive as usual. When starting the process of Alt Movie Only MKV, I get a pop up (see the attached) saying the audio type doesn't match the audio detected.

When looking at the disc in the Stream tab before hitting backup, it reports TrueHD.

I DO have Keep HD Audio selected. Even if I unselect it, I still get the error.

[Lathe]

I know! I know! ...
Debbie Does Lathe :eek:

DOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/doh.gif

[jdobbs]

Ripped Pacific Rim 2D Blu-ray and 3D Blu-ray to my hard drive as usual. When starting the process of Alt Movie Only MKV, I get a pop up (see the attached) saying the audio type doesn't match the audio detected.

When looking at the disc in the Stream tab before hitting backup, it reports TrueHD.

I DO have Keep HD Audio selected. Even if I unselect it, I still get the error.That is an error report from DGDECNV. You can make it go away by opening that program and telling it to ignore that condition.

[spotswood]

Wow! I had two donations in my inbox this morning! That's more than I had in the last month! Thanks, guys, I really appreciate it. Now... to decide what discs I want to buy for testing...Here's one more donation... ;^). How 'bout LOTR Return of the King Extended Edition Disc 2. BDRB won't process this one claiming it's not a valid blu-ray format. I just tried it again and am now getting the Master toolkit errors 2503 and 2603 as well... And Star Trek TOS Season 1/Disc 3. Just posted a problem I'm having with this one/series in post #27415.

Thank you jdobbs for your great work!

[jdobbs]

Here's one more donation... ;^). How 'bout LOTR Return of the King Extended Edition Disc 2. BDRB won't process this one claiming it's not a valid blu-ray format. I just tried it again and am now getting the Master toolkit errors 2503 and 2603 as well... And Star Trek TOS Season 1/Disc 3. Just posted a problem I'm having with this one/series in post #27415.

Thank you jdobbs for your great work!Thank you very much. I'd see how much those cost... but I'm not sure how I can get them without buying the entire set.

[geheim]

Are there any news about UHD support?? Are you still working on implementing it??

[mparade]

Are there any news about UHD support?? Are you still working on implementing it??

I wish jdobbs implemented that feature. Importing HDR content would be very useful as well. x265 should be fed with the correct HDR data that is read out correctly from the source otherwise the output may be unusable.

[jdobbs]

Are there any news about UHD support?? Are you still working on implementing it??Sure... if I can ever get it to work. Most of the problems seem to be associated with TSMUXER and the way it handle UHD/HDR. I'm not sure it is ever going to work properly as I've been trying different things for some time now. If you fix X you run into problem Y. If you find a way to get around Y, you run into problem Z. Try to fix Z... and you see X again. Repeat.

[ggtop]

How 'bout LOTR Return of the King Extended Edition Disc 2. BDRB won't process this one claiming it's not a valid blu-ray format. I just tried it again and am now getting the Master toolkit errors 2503 and 2603 as well...

Hi spotswood,

no problems here with any LOTR Bluray (incl. ROTK Extended Edition discs). What does BDInfo say about this disk? I recommend to re-rip it.
I have also seen Master Toolkit Errors now and then, but cleaning the working path and restart DBRB from scratch always fixed them. Be sure not to have a subtitle file open in a program such as BDSup2Sup(++) when BDRB scans them.

ggtop

[ggtop]

I think I found a bug in the forced-sub-extraction-routine.
I'm doing alternate output into mp4 container.

First my understanding how it is designed:
During extraction step all sub tracks are demuxed. If FORCED_SUB_LANG (DEU;GER in my case) is set this or these sub streams are scanned for forced subs following this order and stream number down.
If forced subs are found they'll be put into the 9999 stream. And these come only from 1(!) stream.

Now I have a multipart source (Hancock) which has unfortunately forced subs in 2 GER subs streams (normal & director's comments). I think that's legal because always one is hidden in two different playlists. But that is not respected by BDRB (good idea btw).
Obviously the same approach as above takes place here. On each part of the multipart source the subs are scanned and the forced ones are extracted.
But in some parts the normal stream has no forced subs, but the director's comments has and those are now in the 9999 file.

A possible solution could be to remember the sub stream number from the first part where ALL forced subs were extracted to a 9999 file and to use only this stream for searching forced subs or to disable a stream completely from the stream tab. While writing I think the latter is a bad idea because I don't know if I need to keep a track before BDRD demuxed it and I can analyse it.

I hope you could follow my attempt to explain it.

If case you have an idea for a workaround I'm also fine with it as it seems to be a very rare case.

Quoting myself...

I found a work around by creating a full backup with no compression and unticking the subtiltle stream that caused problems. Afterwards I created an alternate output from that.

ggtop

[spotswood]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to an updated release of BD-RB (v0.40.10). Changes for this release include: Corrected an issue related to unusual MPLS files
that could result in "SourceCheck() 00006 2501" at
program startup or during scanning.


Just following up on a recent problem I'm having opening the above mentioned disc. Did a little more digging and found a similar problem was fixed a while back in the version above. I have noticed that BDRB will open the disc in movie only mode but not in full backup or movie & menus mode. Another member was asked to send their .mpls files for another disc with a similar problem. If you like I can do the same, let me know. Thanks for any help/suggestions!

If you send me a PM with a link, I'll download it and see what I can find.

Can I zip up and email the .mpls files to the address I just made the dontation to? FYI, I've tried re-ripping and opening/scanning the disc directly from the drive in BDRB but still no luck...

[ggtop]

I've tried re-ripping and opening/scanning the disc directly from the drive in BDRB but still no luck...

Hi spotswood, I just tried the same and BDRB reports error 2603 ScanDirectory() 00006 2603 followed by 2701 BuildTreeList() 00009 2701. It does only happen if mode is set to "Full Backup" or "Movie & Menus" as you wrote. Normally my setting is "Movie-Only". Therefore it did not happen for me.

@ jdobbs: Anything I/we could try before you buy discs you are (edit) NOT interessted in. Also tried 0.50.24 I still had on my HDD.

ggtop

[Mark_Venture]

That is an error report from DGDECNV. You can make it go away by opening that program and telling it to ignore that condition.
Cool. Thank you!

[MrVideo]

File not found/permission denied errors

I've been getting the following errors with my Win7 piece of crap system:
Run-time error '53':
File not found

Run-time error '70':
Permission denied
It would be great if BDRB would wait a second, then retry what it was trying to do. Five attempts max before really bailing.

And no, it doesn't fail at the same point in the run.

Thanks.

[Lathe]

I've been getting the following errors with my Win7 piece of crap system:




I've been thinking about buying one of those Win7 Piece of Crap systems, but I've been waiting for some solid reviews first...

(written from my Piece of Crap Win8 System)

[MrVideo]

I've been thinking about buying one of those Win7 Piece of Crap systems, but I've been waiting for some solid reviews first...
I assemble all of my own systems. I do not buy pre-packaged hardware/software. In this case, I think the motherboard is at fault. It is an ASUS Crosshair AMD mobo. I only do AMD processors. Stupid thing is that ASUS has respect in the mobo making industry. So, I do not know why this one is giving me issues.

[Lathe]

I assemble all of my own systems. I do not buy pre-packaged hardware/software. In this case, I think the motherboard is at fault. It is an ASUS Crosshair AMD mobo. I only do AMD processors. Stupid thing is that ASUS has respect in the mobo making industry. So, I do not know why this one is giving me issues.

Actually, I go ASUS & AMD also :)

[Lathe]

You know, now that you mention it, I think you are right about your MOBO... The @sshair series has had some troubles. I think it was because of questionable building materials...

[MrVideo]

I'm running a Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P for the Linux box and that box has been extremely stable. Ebay/Newegg has the GA-970A-DS3P for $70. I can transfer all of the stuff in the ASUS mobo to the Gigabyte.

Nice to know about the ASUS issue with the Crosshair IV series. The Gigabyte also has separate connectors for the keyboard and rodent, which allows for better connection to my 8-port KVM switch.

I think I'll grab one of those mobos. Thanks for the ASUS input.

[MrVideo]

MOVIE-ONLY Mode problem

I have a disc that I am creating from M2TS files that I created that have H.264 video, a DTS audio stream, a AC3 audio stream and 2 subtitle streams.

The first portion of the run that creates the BDMV structure with a menu works to completion. But because the video files are too large to fit onto a BD25, I then clicked on BACKUP. Here is the log file:
[04:27:53] Importing: VIDEO-S2
- [04:28:00] Importing video file: (1 of 5)
- Preparing M2TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [04:37:39] Importing video file: (2 of 5)
- Preparing M2TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [04:45:43] Importing video file: (3 of 5)
- Preparing M2TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [04:54:37] Importing video file: (4 of 5)
- Preparing M2TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [05:06:04] Importing video file: (5 of 5)
- Preparing M2TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [05:15:06] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[05:15:56] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[06/27/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[05:16:04] Source: VIDEO-S2_00004
- Input BD size: 7.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:13:05.881]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.2 [3790]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[05:16:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [05:16:04] Processing: VID_00004 (1 of 1)
- [05:16:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [05:19:14] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 105,156 frames
- Bitrate: 35,000 Kbs
- [05:19:14] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
[05:39:09]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
Notice that it says: MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
But, Full Backup is selected under the Mode menu pulldown. How can I turn off Movie-Only mode that is already off? My final output just needs the video recoded so that the five video files fit on the disc and the other streams (both audios and sub-titles) are left intact.

UPDATE: I did a test with a previous job and it did not do Movie-Only mode. I went back to the problem job and turned on Movie-Only mode, only using a couple of the files. It went into Movie-Only mode. I aborted and changed the mode to Full Backup and clicked on Backup. No Movie-Only mode. WTF? But, it still was not keeping both audio streams. I went looking and it seems that AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1 needs to be change. Doing so did the trick.

Am I going to have to cycle the Movie-Only mode to get it to work? Or was there something that needed a kick-in-the-butt?

[jdobbs]

File not found/permission denied errors

I've been getting the following errors with my Win7 piece of crap system:
Run-time error '53':
File not found

Run-time error '70':
Permission denied
It would be great if BDRB would wait a second, then retry what it was trying to do. Five attempts max before really bailing.

And no, it doesn't fail at the same point in the run.

Thanks.It depends on where the error happens and how likely that error is... but it retries in many error common conditions. There's not much it can do about permission errors, though. Permissions are set outside of BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

I've been thinking about buying one of those Win7 Piece of Crap systems, but I've been waiting for some solid reviews first...

(written from my Piece of Crap Win8 System)I always had good luck with Win7. But all my systems are on Windows 10 now. On all but one of my computers I skipped right over the entire Win8 series. There were too many issues on the first Win8 releases (although I understand they got better later).

I've been using ASUS for a long time too. I've had good luck with those too. Right now two of my four machines are running on ASUS motherboards (they are admittedly older models, though).

[Lathe]

I always had good luck with Win7. But all my systems are on Windows 10 now. On all but one of my computers I skipped right over the entire Win8 series. There were too many issues on the first Win8 releases (although I understand they got better later).

I've been using ASUS for a long time too. I've had good luck with those too. Right now two of my four machines are running on ASUS motherboards.

Good to know Boss, thanks!

[MrVideo]

There's not much it can do about permission errors, though. Permissions are set outside of BD-RB.
Correct. But, in the situations that BDRB is running into, they are false positives. I'll bet a retry will result in the error not happening again for the same request. If there was a real problem, BDRB would run into it each and every time the run was done. In these cases, they occur at different points in the run.

I'm hoping that the problem will be solved with a different mobo.

[MrVideo]

I've been using ASUS for a long time too. I've had good luck with those too.
But not the Crosshair IV models. When I first used it I had issues. Then I took it out of service. I thought I would save money when I put it back into service. Not so much.

[MrVideo]

Question about menu item text placement

What is the leading, in pixels, from one menu item line to the next, within a 1080 menu?

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Question about menu item text placement

What is the leading, in pixels, from one menu item line to the next, within a 1080 menu?

Thanks.Sorry. I'm not sure what you are asking.

The spacing between lines is variable based on the value of MENU_TOP (see hidden options) and a constant assumption of 16 menu items per column. If you set MENU_TOP to a fairly high value (the default is 200), you normally would have to decrease the font size in order to avoid overlap.

Not sure if that helps.

[MrVideo]

The spacing between lines is variable based on the value of MENU_TOP (see hidden options) and a constant assumption of 16 menu items per column. If you set MENU_TOP to a fairly high value (the default is 200), you normally would have to decrease the font size in order to avoid overlap.
None of my jobs have a menu top. I create the menu background image for all jobs. A menu page will never have more than 10 items. With that info in hand, can you give an idea of what the spacing would be, in pixels?

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

None of my jobs have a menu top. I create the menu background image for all jobs. A menu page will never have more than 10 items. With that info in hand, can you give an idea of what the spacing would be, in pixels?

Thanks.The spacing is (1000 - MENU_TOP) / 16. So the default spacing (MENU_TOP=200) would be 50 pixels on a 1920x1080 screen.

[ggtop]

Hi all,

first of know: I know that nearly all issues I have are subtitle-related...no comment :-)

I wonder if someone came across this issue. Source is a Bluray with some extras in 480i: Aristocats (had the same issue with some James Bond 'A view to a kill' btw).
I want to encode an extra to alternate output (mp4) and as soon as subtitles are displayed I get this massive green bar at the left side. I upscaled, downscaled, whatever, the bar persists. It vanishes after the presentation time of the subtitle. As SupTitle plugin is no longer developed I wonder if someone found a work-around.

EDIT: Using DGDecNV as frame server. Using internal LAV the bar gets smaller but is still there. Autocrop and deinterlacing make no difference. AviSynth script looks like this:
#Created by BD Master Toolkit - v0.50.25
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\xxx\Documents\Software\DGDecNV\DGDecodeNV.dll")
DGSource("C:\Users\xxx\Videos\BD_WORK_1\WORKFILES\VID_00106.DGI", fieldop=0)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth\plugins\SupTitle.dll")
SupTitle("C:\Users\xxx\Videos\BD_WORK_1\WORKFILES\00106.track_4608.sup")
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\xxx\Documents\Software\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=true)
BilinearResize(720,480)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)


ggtop

[raisingcanex]

Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place. I have been trying to understand using the mkv format to do my Blu-rays. I was using the folder structure before. With the size of 9gb on the file size. But some of the programs I am using does not recognize the folder structure. Now, when I'm trying to do MKV under alternate file output. I would try the 1080 with intact audio. Because sound is just as important to me as video. But when it's finished the file size is compressed to much. For example, having a Blu-ray with a original size of 42gb, and when the process is finished in came out under 1gb. Another was under 2gb. Some of them seem to have even lost some black level. Which I can understand to some degree with any compressing. But under the process with the 9gb folder structure was much more than the mkv, as far as black level. How can I get to get it to output between 8gb - 12gb with audio intact as a mkv. Or what settings should I be selecting. Or am I not suppose to be in the Alternate Outputs. Please help. Thanks

[ggtop]

Which CRF value are you using when outputting to MKV?
Also depends which Equipment you are using for viweing: 32 inch TV or 150 inch beamer. CRF value of 20 should give pretty good results. the lower the better. Anything below 18 is a waste in most peoples' opinion.

ggtop

[raisingcanex]

Which CRF value are you using when outputting to MKV?
Also depends which Equipment you are using for viweing: 32 inch TV or 150 inch beamer. CRF value of 20 should give pretty good results. the lower the better. Anything below 18 is a waste in most peoples' opinion.

ggtop

Not sure what CRF is. But the TV I'm using is a 80"

[MrVideo]

The spacing is (1000 - MENU_TOP) / 16. So the default spacing (MENU_TOP=200) would be 50 pixels on a 1920x1080 screen.
Thanks.

[ggtop]

Not sure what CRF is. But the TV I'm using is a 80"

CRF means C onstant R ate F actor. That setting controls the encoder output quality-wise.

In BDRB goto menu "Mode" and "- Alternate Movie-Only Output" (accessible if "Movie-Only Output" is selected also unser "Mode"). You'll see a list with the pre-defined profiles. Each Profile (that is not "intact video") gives you the opportunity to switch between different encoding modes. You'll see some checkboxes (1. CRF, 2. Two Pass, 3. Two Pass Target, ...) Which one is selected and which value are you using?

ggtop

[raisingcanex]

CRF means C onstant R ate F actor. That setting controls the encoder output quality-wise.

In BDRB goto menu "Mode" and "- Alternate Movie-Only Output" (accessible if "Movie-Only Output" is selected also unser "Mode"). You'll see a list with the pre-defined profiles. Each Profile (that is not "intact video") gives you the opportunity to switch between different encoding modes. You'll see some checkboxes (1. CRF, 2. Two Pass, 3. Two Pass Target, ...) Which one is selected and which value are you using?

ggtop

It was on Two Pass and the value was 1024. Thanks for your help.

[MrVideo]

Text not being placed as configured

I configured the text to be placed at 500 vertical and 750 horizontal. If you look at this screen shot (photo) (http://vidiot.com/images/BDRB_text_offset.jpg), you'll see that the text is placed correctly horizontally. But vertically it seems to be at 537 pixels from the top.

Is this a bug, or am I missing something? Please don't tell me that the text is being placed based upon the top of the text cell. It should be placed according to the text baseline.

[jdobbs]

Text not being placed as configured

I configured the text to be placed at 500 vertical and 750 horizontal. If you look at this screen shot (photo) (http://vidiot.com/images/BDRB_text_offset.jpg), you'll see that the text is placed correctly horizontally. But vertically it seems to be at 537 pixels from the top.

Is this a bug, or am I missing something? Please don't tell me that the text is being placed based upon the top of the text cell. It should be placed according to the text baseline.Ok. I won't tell you. But that is how it works with the Microsoft provided subroutines that place the text into the bitmap.

[MrVideo]

Ok. I won't tell you.
:D
But that is how it works with the Microsoft provided subroutines that place the text into the bitmap.
Is there way to take the value that M$ supplies and fudge it to get it near what the user actually wants?

If not, a note in the hidden text for that value (MENU_TOP/MENU_VERTICAL) to indicate what the placement value actually means, i.e. top of text cell, not the value at text base line? Also indicating that when using defaults, the offset from cell top is 37 pixels to text baseline.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

:D

Is there way to take the value that M$ supplies and fudge it to get it near what the user actually wants?

If not, a note in the hidden text for that value (MENU_TOP/MENU_VERTICAL) to indicate what the placement value actually means, i.e. top of text cell, not the value at text base line? Also indicating that when using defaults, the offset from cell top is 37 pixels to text baseline.

Thanks.Unfortunately that doesn't work, because different fonts can be used and the offset would change.

I don't think I agree that this is what the "user actually wants". I think most people would assume the offset is from the top/left of the screen to the top/left of the first character block.

[Ch3vr0n]

Well i do think there is one way around that issue. Use CAPITAL LETTERS. Should make every letter the same size, and position properly accordingly ;)

@jdobbs any news on that 3D SEI data test build (sry if i keep nagging, i just really want to test this, and i don't wanna mess with command line stuff myself in case i'd F... things up)

[MrVideo]

Unfortunately that doesn't work, because different fonts can be used and the offset would change.
Shouldn't make a difference, unless you used a difference point size. That is the whole idea behind a "point" size for a font.
I don't think I agree that this is what the "user actually wants". I think most people would assume the offset is from the top/left of the screen to the top/left of the first character block.
I guess I'm not most people. :D As you can see from the image of the screen, the idea is to align the baseline of the "date" images with the baseline of the menu text. That can't be done working with the top of the character cell.

Depending on the program being used, say a word document program, text is normally placed inside of a text cell. In that case, the text line is fit against the upper-left corner. But, in programs like Illustrator and Photoshop, when text is place on the screen and NOT placed in a cell box, the text baseline is used as the reference. I have no clue as to what M$ provides for text manipulation capabilities. The font baseline is a known value.

So, in this case, I was thinking the text would be placed more free form, i.e., baseline.

Needless to say, I won't be doing these types of menus very often.

[MrVideo]

Well i do think there is one way around that issue. Use CAPITAL LETTERS. Should make every letter the same size, and position properly accordingly ;)
Nope. That isn't how text characters work. A character cell is the same size, no matter if it is lower case or upper case. Dig into programs that are used for character creation.

[Mark_Venture]

...Now, when I'm trying to do MKV under alternate file output. I would try the 1080 with intact audio. Because sound is just as important to me as video. But when it's finished the file size is compressed to much. For example, having a Blu-ray with a original size of 42gb, and when the process is finished in came out under 1gb. Another was under 2gb. Some of them seem to have even lost some black level. Which I can understand to some degree with any compressing. But under the process with the 9gb folder structure was much more than the mkv, as far as black level. How can I get to get it to output between 8gb - 12gb with audio intact as a mkv. Or what settings should I be selecting. Or am I not suppose to be in the Alternate Outputs. Please help. Thanks

Not sure what CRF is. But the TV I'm using is a 80"

I do all my conversions as "alt-Movie Only"... I pick "MKV Container, 1920x1080 Intact Audio" For the check boxes below that I pick Constant Rate Factor Output (CRF) and enter 21 in the box.

That gives me a great balance of video quality, file size and keeps the audio tracks, including any HD audio.

Most of the resulting MKV files are between 7-10gig. Movies with HD audio or multiple audio tracks can result in bigger MKV files. Conversions where the original disc only has DD/DTS non-HD, and only one or two audio tracks, the resulting MKV could be as small as 5-6gig.

Usually I don't notice any difference in video quality between the MKV and the original disc when watching on my on my Sony 55" HX750, 46" XBR6 or 43" XBR 4K. (I use a Fire TV 2nd Gen box, with Kodi and MrMC to play the MKV's off a file share, or the Plex app to play back from a Plex Media Server)

IF/when I watch a converted file and I notice enough black crush or blockiness, or color banding in particular scenes or situations to be annoying (which is rare!!) I might change the CRF value to 20 or 19 and convert again. The resulting file size is bigger, but for the most part video quality isn't "night and day" better, so I rarely change it.

[jdobbs]

Shouldn't make a difference, unless you used a difference point size. That is the whole idea behind a "point" size for a font. Thanks for the lecture, Capt Obvious. It's amazing that I've managed to last this long without your insights! That's pretty much what I meant by changing the font. As the spacing gets adjusted, the point size changes as well. Otherwise the text in the lines would start overlapping very quickly.

[MrVideo]

That's pretty much what I meant by changing the font. As the spacing gets adjusted, the point size changes as well. Otherwise the text in the lines would start overlapping very quickly.
Sorry, wasn't obvious that you were also talking about point size. To me, changing a font doesn't mean changing the point size.

I'll just have to remember to subtract 37 from any vertical position I am interested in (if I really need to be specific). The most I will do is 7 lines a page, but usually only 5. That should result in sticking with the defaults.

[Lathe]

Thanks for the lecture, Capt Obvious. It's amazing that I've managed to last this long without your insights! That's pretty much what I meant by changing the font. As the spacing gets adjusted, the point size changes as well. Otherwise the text in the lines would start overlapping very quickly.

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[MrVideo]

I'm hoping that the problem will be solved with a different mobo.
Well, the new Gigabyte mobo is installed. Of course, with the old ASUS drivers installed, the mobo refused to boot: BSOD. Try as I might to remove drivers, it still crashed. M$, in their wisdom (they have wisdom?), do not detect driver failure and not bother to use said driver, so that the OS could boot and allow for the new drivers to be installed. Nope, to easy.

I've not run a project yet, but will in a day, or too. The issue with the keyboard/rodent connected via USB has not shown up yet. Hopefully that is a start of good things to come, like no permission errors. :cool:

[Lathe]

Well, the new Gigabyte mobo is installed. Of course, with the old ASUS drivers installed, the mobo refused to boot: BSOD. Try as I might to remove drivers, it still crashed. M$, in their wisdom (they have wisdom?), do not detect driver failure and not bother to use said driver, so that the OS could boot and allow for the new drivers to be installed. Nope, to easy.

I've not run a project yet, but will in a day, or too. The issue with the keyboard/rodent connected via USB has not shown up yet. Hopefully that is a start of good things to come, like no permission errors. :cool:

Rodent... :)

I hope you get it running Bro!

[MrVideo]

I hope you get it running Bro!
Hurray!!!! The Doom9 server is back up. :cool:
I can now run jobs without the dreaded "file not found" or the most often produced "permission denied" errors. The rodent/keyboard issue via the USB connection still happened, but that took a long time before it did. There is a strange display issue that has nothing to do with BDRB. But, it doesn't keep BDRB from doing its thing.

At the moment, I am a happy camper. :)

[Rich86]

Problem: BDRB frequently fails when converting a BD to DVD in movie only mode when including english subtitles.
Ripped using DVDFab64 to hard disc - folders/files mode.
"Starting MPLEX" goes all the way to 100% - but then fails (see below).
[15:17:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[15:17:31]PHASE ONE complete
[15:17:31]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:17:31] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [15:17:31] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [15:18:27] Starting MPLEX.
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MPLEX)
[15:20:27] - Failed to REBUILD


This does not happen on all titles - but it seems to happen more frequently as time passes. This latest example is on "Pacific Rim: Uprising" using the BD included in my 4K-UHD set.
multiAVCHD converts these BD titles to DVD just fine - in case that is helpful info.
I am happy to assist in testing or providing more info.

[Lathe]

Hurray!!!! The Doom9 server is back up. :cool:
I can now run jobs without the dreaded "file not found" or the most often produced "permission denied" errors. The rodent/keyboard issue via the USB connection still happened, but that took a long time before it did. There is a strange display issue that has nothing to do with BDRB. But, it doesn't keep BDRB from doing its thing.

At the moment, I am a happy camper. :)

Hey, that's great!

'Strange display issue'... Hmmm... have you been getting unwanted pictures of gonca too? I think he's hacked into our systems and then sends questionable pictures of himself in various states of undress.

Terrible thing...

[dracore]

will bd rebuilder be supporting the encoding of 4k uhd disks to keep menus ect aswell :thanks:

[Ch3vr0n]

Jdobbs is looking into that, so don't ask for an ETA

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[dracore]

Jdobbs is looking into that, so don't ask for an ETA

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

Thank you for the reply :thanks:

[MrVideo]

Hmmm... have you been getting unwanted pictures of gonca too?
Nope. Must be only you. Probably because he knew that you would love them. :D

[gonca]

Terrible thing...
You looking in the mirror?

[Wolfe999]

Exactly 2 months since I asked for help in this matter:

When I import the MKV files set in the same folder with the name of the BD I want (all mkv's are compliant), the process always aborts when it enounters latin accentuated words, in this specific case, of 12 files, 4:

-Satélite
-Tecnología
-Área
-Titánico

I'm sure there must be a way to solve it, but I wasn't able to locate it. Would appreciate any help.

So I must understand there is no way to avoid this?

Well, in any case thank you for the interest showed.

[Lathe]

Nope. Must be only you. Probably because he knew that you would love them. :D

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[jdobbs]

Exactly 2 months since I asked for help in this matter:

When I import the MKV files set in the same folder with the name of the BD I want (all mkv's are compliant), the process always aborts when it enounters latin accentuated words, in this specific case, of 12 files, 4:

-Satélite
-Tecnología
-Área
-Titánico

I'm sure there must be a way to solve it, but I wasn't able to locate it. Would appreciate any help.

So I must understand there is no way to avoid this?

Well, in any case thank you for the interest showed.I’m sorry that my free support for my free software hasn’t met your standards. I guess I was busy doing something that puts food on the table.

[Lathe]

I love the sense of entitlement. I write free software... and you feel you are entitled to it... but are disappointed with how long I take to provide the free support. Oh well... I guess this is where we are these days.

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/doh.gif

Don't worry, the rest of us ingrates, deviants, and all around roust-a-bouts appreciate you Boss!

[dracore]

I’m sorry that my free support for my free software hasn’t met your standards. I guess I was busy doing something that puts food on the table.

everything you do is appreciated :thanks:

[MrVideo]

When I import the MKV files set in the same folder with the name of the BD I want (all mkv's are compliant), the process always aborts when it enounters latin accentuated words
I suggest changing the accented characters to non-accented during the BDRB build. When the build is done, replace the non-accented characters with the accented characters.

Yes, it is a little bit of extra work, but it will get you through the builds.

[Wolfe999]

I suggest changing the accented characters to non-accented during the BDRB build. When the build is done, replace the non-accented characters with the accented characters.

Yes, it is a little bit of extra work, but it will get you through the builds.

Will try it.
Thank you, MrVideo

[AmigaFuture]

I’m sorry that my free support for my free software hasn’t met your standards. I guess I was busy doing something that puts food on the table.

Hmm, that could be read another way also. Making it known how long it has been between first request, and some people are very precise. My Girlfriend is like that, and me, too sometimes. But I don't get a sense of entitlement, like I do from a guy with combed forward hair and an almost constant "O" face when he talks. Haha!

But I'm also able to read it from your view, Boss, and it does seem that way then. Then again, I haven't keep updated with the thread.. But the Highlighted MrVideo wasn't really called for...that, I view as a little bit of a slap.

Do you remember that "bug" I reported a long time ago about clicking a button with BD-RB and it Looks like it clicked but there isn't a reaction? I came across it the other day, and I DIDN'T remember to record it before I click it. HAHA! It's become a funny for me. I capture it soon enough.

Anyway, other than that and DVD's 16:9 becoming resized if I don't use DirectShow, BD-RB is doing very well. Love this program!

@Lathe

Those pictures...a bit TMI of your personal interests. Perhaps a little less Parrot drink before replying? Hehe!

[Wolfe999]

But I'm also able to read it from your view, Boss, and it does seem that way then. Then again, I haven't keep updated with the thread.. But the Highlighted MrVideo wasn't really called for...that, I view as a little bit of a slap.

It was my intention no to say anything else about this matter (and I promise this will be the last, no matter what I read from here, not even if this gets censored), even when I see that it seems that some people feel the need to intervene in something that doesn't concern them: an exchange of words (no matter how justified) among two adults.

Thinking yourself adept at reading between the lines, you get to some conclusions just analysing my "bolding" of names and decide to throw in some s**t just to fulfill your role of adulator. Don't know why your mind chose to see that highlighting as a slap, but it's just your feverish conclusion, not the truth. It's a pity, because with your first words, you lost the chance to project some reason. Well, you took your path and your decision.

These words by Harlan Ellison (hint-hint about the way I tend to highlight names) have made my life much clearer, hope they help you too:

You are not entitled to your opinion, you are entitled to your informed opinion. If you are not informed on the subject, then your opinion counts for nothing.

I really hope to be forgotten by you. I promise to reciprocate.

[MrVideo]

How does one tell BDRB not to re-encode one of the files? Six of the files are ~5GB each and the 7th is ~267MB (a little less than 4 min). I do not want the short file re-encoded, only the large files.

[Ch3vr0n]

It should be somewhere in the hidden options. Min_file_size or something. Or something to do with minimum duration

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk

[AmigaFuture]

It was my intention no to say anything else about this matter (and I promise this will be the last, no matter what I read from here, not even if this gets censored), even when I see that it seems that some people feel the need to intervene in something that doesn't concern them: an exchange of words (no matter how justified) among two adults.

"I really hope to be forgotten by you. I promise to reciprocate." - This line is hypocritical to your reply. That means opposite to your reply, I thought I'd help you. :-) I didn't include the Other part of my MrVideo reply because I was attempting to keep things "cool" here..and I thought You might savvy. Since you didn't -- I adore Rod Serling, (Pagan) Buddha, and Inner Awareness, and you're good at adjusting words together, like my Son, but you might want to consider People Beyond The Words more so (he's getting it).

"Thinking yourself adept at reading between the lines, you get to some conclusions just analysing my 'bolding' of names and decide to throw in some stuff just to fulfill your role of adulator." - You MIGHT want to be inside my mind and eternal energy a bit more before drawing those ideas together. You're a bit off base with me. Surprise!

Don't PM me unless you have something to reply with that is a bit more progressive or constructive.

Back to BD-RB, eh?

[Lathe]

"I really hope to be forgotten by you. I promise to reciprocate." - This line is hypocritical to your reply. That means opposite to your reply, I thought I'd help you. :-) I didn't include the Other part of my MrVideo reply because I was attempting to keep things "cool" here..and I thought You might savvy. Since you didn't -- I adore Rod Serling, (Pagan) Buddha, and Inner Awareness, and you're good at adjusting words together, like my Son, but you might want to consider People Beyond The Words more so (he's getting it).

"Thinking yourself adept at reading between the lines, you get to some conclusions just analysing my 'bolding' of names and decide to throw in some stuff just to fulfill your role of adulator." - You MIGHT want to be inside my mind and eternal energy a bit more before drawing those ideas together. You're a bit off base with me. Surprise!

Don't PM me unless you have something to reply with that doesn't contradict your reply and is a bit more progressive or constructive.

Back to BD-RB, eh?

Groovy Baby... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/groovy.gif






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[MrVideo]

It should be somewhere in the hidden options. Min_file_size or something. Or something to do with minimum duration
MIN_M2TS_SIZE wasn't it. That won't stop it from re-encoding, it stops BDRB from using the file at all.

Back to the drawing board.

[AmigaFuture]

Groovy Baby... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/groovy.gif






http://lathe-of-heaven.com/shroom.gif

Swallloowwww it Deep, Lathe, babe......there you go. Heh...heh..

[worknstiff]

Has anyone used BD_Rebuilder to process Rampage 3D? I can't seem to get FRIM to access the 00252.m2ts, as it hangs after extraction and encoding fails. If you look in the folder the 00252.m2ts is missing and the supposedly 35GB folder is only 2.9GB. I wonder if it's just my machine or AnyDVD or something else that's problematic with the file? I have tried ripping it on 3 different pc's using 3 different burners and all fail with the same file.

[Lathe]

Swallloowwww it Deep, Lathe, babe......there you go. Heh...heh..

Hey Hey HEY! No talking dirty now... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/Wagging2.gif

[AmigaFuture]

Has anyone used BD_Rebuilder to process Rampage 3D? I can't seem to get FRIM to access the 00252.m2ts, as it hangs after extraction and encoding fails. If you look in the folder the 00252.m2ts is missing and the supposedly 35GB folder is only 2.9GB. I wonder if it's just my machine or AnyDVD or something else that's problematic with the file? I have tried ripping it on 3 different pc's using 3 different burners and all fail with the same file.

Bad mastering? All 3 machines might have optics that require cleaning. I'm met people who have several machines and that was the case with all. But some people think because they have several machines that ONE should function and do the job. Well, if stuff IS dirty..hope and the none existent luck won't help. :)

Do you only use AnyDVD HD?

Hey Hey HEY! No talking dirty now... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/Wagging2.gif

You and my girlfriend are depravity related.

@DJ

I noticed a bug with BD-RB, after repeating it a few times I'll post. It's related to creating MP4..

[jdobbs]

You and my girlfriend are depravity related.It's a brave man who admits this.

[MrVideo]

@jdobbs:

Is there is hidden option in which to keep BDRB from recoding a video file that is under a particular size?

[worknstiff]

@ AmigaFuture, RE:Bad mastering? Well, if stuff IS dirty..hope and the none existent luck won't help. :)

Do you only use AnyDVD HD?

No I don't think it is a "dirty" problem cause logic dictates that it would fail at either ripping it or burning it. I have made a BD50 that has the "complete" rip so I don't think it is a burner problem. And BD Rebuilder has no problems accessing and compressing other 3D movies, and even works when accessing other files on this rip but coughs up a hairball when FRIM wants this supposedly "extracted" 00252.m2ts file. I am leaning towards some anomaly that this file has that prevents either AnyDVD HD or BD Rebuilder from using it properly.

RE: I don't really use any other programs for 3D except AnyDVD and BD_Rebuilder.

[Ch3vr0n]

Then you should post a full processing log with any potential errors. Right now, all ya do is talk talk talk, but no log log log for jdobbs to work with and problem diagnose

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs:

Is there is hidden option in which to keep BDRB from recoding a video file that is under a particular size?MIN_M2TS_SIZE will do it, but only if there is other M2TS's as well. When you set it, it won't show on the list -- but will be copied intact.

[AmigaFuture]

It's a brave man who admits this.

:D Also confidence in more than only myself. She and I have read Abbott and Costello of gonca and Lathe pushing some boundaries that some online would be very bothered by. Personally, we enjoy great twisted banter as long as that's all it is. Lots of unsavory things happening in the world, as well as absolute beauty that you gotta poke fun at to keep a balance inside. [Some] relationships are worthy of great trust, too.


After a few tests..I can confirm that BD-RB (by way, MP4Box) has a sync problem. I'm able to import some TS/MKV files and Alternatively create MKV/MP4 and only MKV sync is fine. I've only done episodes from my TiVo files. More checking to go.

[07/25/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[08:48:11] Source: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)_00000
- Input BD size: 2.23 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:34.192]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MP4, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[08:48:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:48:11] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [08:48:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [08:49:05] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [08:49:05] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [08:49:05] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[08:49:05]PHASE ONE complete
[08:49:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:49:05] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[08:50:25] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[08:50:25] JOB: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W) finished.
----------------------
[07/25/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[08:50:34] Source: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)_00000
- Input BD size: 2.23 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:34.192]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[08:50:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:50:35] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [08:50:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [08:51:08] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [08:51:08] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [08:51:08] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[08:51:08]PHASE ONE complete
[08:51:08]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:51:08] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[08:52:13] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[08:52:13] JOB: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W) finished.
----------------------
[08:54:08] Importing MKV: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)
- Preparing MKV for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[08:55:20] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[07/25/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[08:55:46] Source: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)_00000
- Input BD size: 2.23 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:34.192]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MP4, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[08:55:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:55:47] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [08:55:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [08:56:42] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [08:56:42] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [08:56:42] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[08:56:42]PHASE ONE complete
[08:56:42]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:56:42] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[08:58:01] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[08:58:01] JOB: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W) finished.
----------------------
[08:59:50] Importing TS: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)
- Preparing TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[09:01:44] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[07/25/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[09:04:16] Source: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)_00000
- Input BD size: 2.23 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:34.192]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MP4, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:04:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:04:17] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [09:04:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [09:05:13] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [09:05:13] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [09:05:13] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[09:05:13]PHASE ONE complete
[09:05:13]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:05:13] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[09:06:51] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:06:51] JOB: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W) finished.
----------------------
[09:08:37] Importing TS: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)
- Preparing TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[09:10:36] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[07/25/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[09:10:48] Source: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)_00000
- Input BD size: 2.23 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:34.192]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:10:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:10:49] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [09:10:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [09:11:45] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [09:11:45] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [09:11:45] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[09:11:45]PHASE ONE complete
[09:11:45]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:11:45] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[09:12:54] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:12:54] JOB: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W) finished.
----------------------
[09:13:55] Importing MKV: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)_02
- Preparing MKV for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[09:15:12] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[07/25/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[09:15:25] Source: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)_02_00000
- Input BD size: 2.23 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:34.192]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MP4, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:15:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:15:26] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [09:15:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [09:16:23] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [09:16:23] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [09:16:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[09:16:23]PHASE ONE complete
[09:16:23]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:16:23] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[09:17:42] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:17:42] JOB: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)_02 finished.
----------------------
[09:19:16] Importing TS: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)
- Preparing TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[09:21:13] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[07/25/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[09:21:27] Source: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W)_00000
- Input BD size: 2.23 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:23:34.192]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MP4, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:21:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:21:27] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [09:21:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [09:22:18] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [09:22:18] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [09:22:18] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[09:22:18]PHASE ONE complete
[09:22:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:22:18] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[09:24:07] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:24:07] JOB: ANCIENT_ALIENS_-_S13_E07_-_''EARTH_STATION_EGYPT''_(HISTHD-W) finished.


Nothing out of the ordinary in logs.. Want the source?

[Lathe]

It's a brave man who admits this.

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/laugh.gif

[gonca]

Abbott and Costello of gonca and Lathe
And Lathe is Costello

[AmigaFuture]

Never wondered.

[gonca]

Now he has to go upstairs from the basement and ask mom and dad "who is Abbott and Costello?"
He might be "googling it" as I type

[Lathe]

And Lathe is Costello

Heh... :)

[Lathe]

Now he has to go upstairs from the basement and ask mom and dad "who is Abbott and Costello?"
He might be "googling it" as I type

Ho ho ho... the nerve... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/rolleyes2.gif

[gonca]

Ho ho ho... the nerve...
Hey, I was nice to you
I said you could google, just like every other semi developed mommies basement dweller

[Lathe]

Hey, I was nice to you
I said you could google, just like every other semi developed mommies basement dweller

"semi developed mommies basement dweller..." WOW! I must say, that snowed in deep in Canuk country with only the occasional slow elk for company, you DO have time to come up with some imaginative stuff...

[MrVideo]

MIN_M2TS_SIZE will do it, but only if there is other M2TS's as well. When you set it, it won't show on the list -- but will be copied intact.
Aaaah! I thought it wasn't working when I saw the file missing from the list. I'll give it a go. Thanks.

[AmigaFuture]

When you become even cooler, you don't say, "Google whatever.." you say "Use DuckDuckGo to find something." ;) A basement dweller.. Basements are cooler since they're underground, don't go dissin' the Hobbits. ;)

[worknstiff]

@ Ch3vr0n; RE: Then you should post a full processing log with any potential errors.
----------------------
[07/26/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[08:42:51] Source: RAMPAGE
- Input BD size: 36.63 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:01:00.336]
- Target BD size: 24.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[08:42:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:42:53] Blanking: VID_00003 (1 of 15)
- [08:42:53] Processing: VID_00004 (2 of 15)
- [08:42:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [08:42:57] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 321 frames
- Bitrate: 9,101 Kbs
- [08:42:57] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [08:43:00] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:43:07] Video Encode complete
- [08:43:07] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:43:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:43:11] Blanking: VID_00005 (3 of 15)
- [08:43:11] Blanking: VID_00008 (4 of 15)
- [08:43:11] Blanking: VID_00009 (5 of 15)
- [08:43:11] Blanking: VID_00013 (6 of 15)
- [08:43:11] Blanking: VID_00015 (7 of 15)
- [08:43:11] Blanking: VID_00016 (8 of 15)
- [08:43:11] Blanking: VID_00017 (9 of 15)
- [08:43:11] Processing: VID_00050 (10 of 15)
- [08:43:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [08:43:15] Reencoding video [VID_00050]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 121 frames
- Bitrate: 7,787 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [08:43:15] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:43:19] Video Encode complete
- [08:43:19] Processing audio tracks
- [08:43:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:43:23] Scanning for 3D CLPI info...
- [08:43:23] Processing: VID_00051 (11 of 15)
- [08:43:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
- [08:43:26] Reencoding video [VID_00051]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 121 frames
- Bitrate: 5,241 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [08:43:26] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:43:30] Video Encode complete
- [08:43:30] Processing audio tracks
- [08:43:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:43:34] Scanning for 3D CLPI info...
- [08:43:34] Blanking: VID_00103 (12 of 15)
- [08:43:34] Blanking: VID_00242 (13 of 15)
- [08:43:34] Processing: VID_00252 (14 of 15)
- [08:43:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00252]
- [08:47:11] Reencoding video [VID_00252]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 154,312 frames
- Bitrate: 25,644 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [08:47:11] Reencoding: VID_00252, Pass 1 of 1
[08:48:16] - Failed video encode, aborted
[07/26/18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 174.38GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[07/26/18] Systems Settings Check complete

---Also MVCENCODE.bat
"C:\BD-RBV05025\BD_Rebuilder\tools\FRIMDecode.exe" -ts -i::mvc "H:\BDMV\STREAM\00252.m2ts" "H:\BDMV\STREAM\00253.m2ts" -o \\.\pipe\bdrb.yuv -sw | "C:\BD-RBV05025\BD_Rebuilder\tools\FRIMEncode.exe" mvc -i \\.\pipe\bdrb_L.yuv -i \\.\pipe\bdrb_R.yuv -viewoutput -o "D:\WORKING\WORKFILES\VID_00252.AVS.264" -o "D:\WORKING\WORKFILES\VID_00252.AVS.mvc" -sw -w 1920 -h 1080 -f 23.976 -u 4 -cpbsize 3750 -l 6 -profile high -level 4.1 -vbr 25644 45000 -gop 24 4 0 S -maxdpb 4

[Ch3vr0n]

I'm no expert. Jdobbs is. But at least now he has something to work with :)

[AmigaFuture]

Update: BD-RB might have a bug with some TS files. But I've discovered that if I open the edited TS file I removed the commercials from into VideoReDo (5.3.86.763) and save it as MKV or MP4 then BD Rebuilder imports them and also converts them in sync. I don't recall encountering this before this update of VideoReDo. Anyway..if you still want to check the TS file I could provide a link.

[MrVideo]

I always have VRD output MKV files, as that allows me to add chapter marks.

[AmigaFuture]

I use TS because it retains the Closed Captions that CCExtractor is able to get as SRT, and it remains a "pure" source after commercials are removed. JD and you got that clear a bit ago since rerendering already poor HD TV quality to 23.976 FPS loses even more. I wish higher qualuty was used since Coaxil is being used rather than OTA. I also agree about chapter marks, so it's often a multiple saves to get all the wanted stuff.

Edit: TS is importing fine...after examining import Temp more. It's the process to do with MP4Box that causing it. Ah, well, I left Apple and so MKVs are used everywhere else, except online. For now, glad to own VRD. :)

[Rich86]

I'v e asked for help before, but nothing has come forward. I cannot seem to successfully complete a conversion from BD to DVD in BD-RB if I include a subtitle. This used to work fine, but now always seems to fail. It completes the "convert 1 subtitle to dvd format step", then goes into "starting mplex" and runs all the way to 100%, but then throws the "error in attempt to mux" & "failed to rebuild" messages and stops. Is this a bug? Is there something different about english subtitles in today's BD releases that the program gags on? Am I doing something wrong?

[07/30/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[06:48:32] Source: READY_PLAYER_ONE_00100
- Input BD size: 31.46 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:19:58.264]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow)
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Audio [1] set to default.
- Resuming from previously started job.
[06:48:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[06:48:35]PHASE ONE complete
[06:48:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:48:35] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [06:48:35] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [06:49:33] Starting MPLEX.
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MPLEX)
[06:51:32] - Failed to REBUILD
[07/30/18] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.25
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Working Path Free Space: 674.90GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[07/30/18] Systems Settings Check complete

[jdobbs]

@Rich86

I'll do some tests and see what's going on.

[Rich86]

Thanks - anything I can do to help (provide more info - testing, etc.) just let me know.

[jdobbs]

Thanks - anything I can do to help (provide more info - testing, etc.) just let me know.I just did a test and it worked fine for me. Can you post your settings so I can try again using the same configuration as you?

[Edit] I just did another conversion... no problem for that one either.

[Rich86]

This is a Win7Pro64 SYSTEM.
When the program throws the error, the TMPSUBS folder is sitting under Workfiles full of subtitles.

The following is after I used the program to make a movie only BD, but I don't mess with the config file between runs.

I will try running the same BD on my laptop and see if it does the same thing.
Thanks for helping me figure out what is wrong.

VERSION=0.50.0.24
Enable_test=1
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
ALTCRF=20
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
Target_Size=23500
Custom_Target_Size=25000
Min_Playlist_Mins=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=1
DGDECNV=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
RESIZE_1440=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
RESIZE_720=0
NEROAAC=0
MENU_BACKGROUND=C:\Utilities\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=0
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=0
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=0
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=1
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=0
ENCODER=0
IGNORE_3D=0
DECODER=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
SUPTITLE=0
MENU_AUTO_DVDAUDIO=1
IMPORT_LIMIT_LANG=0
IMPORT_KEEP_PLAYALL=1
IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=0
MENU_AUDIO=C:\Utilities\BD_Rebuilder\tools\blankclip\blank.ac3
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
ALT_CRF_TARGET=1024
STATUS_LOG=0
PGSTOSRT=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=
WORKING_PATH=

Update: the exact same thing happened on my laptop.
Could it be something in the rip? I use DVDFab creating folders/files.
I do not have any problems creating BDs with subtitles - only DVDs (movie only with 1 english subtitle).
multiAVCHD creates a dvd from the rips just fine.

Update #2: there is a file called "cvt.bat" in the tmpsubs folder.
The contents of that file include:
pushd "C:\VIDEOSTRANSCODED\PACIFICRIMUPRISING-DVD\WORKFILES\TMPSUBS"
"C:\Utilities\BD_Rebuilder\tools\dvdauthor\bmp2png.exe" -E 4608*.bmp
popd
all the subtitle files start with 4608 . . and . . they are all .png files. in case that has anything to do with this?

Update #3:
I ran my "Ready Player One" BD through BD-RB for DVD output including english subtitles. It failed the same as previously described.
However, then I ran the "Midnight Sun" BD through BD-RB for DVD output including the english subtitles. It ran to conclusion and the output is fine. So, whatever the problem is doesn't seem to happen with all titles.

[AmigaFuture]

Keep processing BD's that way. I've run a few so far, and 0 problems. I plan to get "Ready Player One"..soon. Meanwhile, I'm checking with my other recent BDs. I haven't used alternative that way..much.

[jdobbs]

@Rich86

I've wanted a copy of "Ready Player One" anyway -- so I'll pick it up and run that job using your settings.

[AmigaFuture]

I've processed a few BDs to DVD9 and only problem I've noticed is undersized DVD-9 when AC-3s are involved. If DTS is the only one used, and converted by the process then projected size is fine.

@Lathe
Are you going to attempt to make something from the "size" comment, Lathe?

[Lathe]

@Lathe
Are you going to attempt to make something from the "size" comment, Lathe?

Of course not... I'm not that kind of person...

[Rich86]

BD to DVD5 with Subtitles failure:
I just ran the "Death Wish" BD through BD-RB to a DVD5 with english audio and the english subtitles. It worked fine and the created dvd looks fine. So whatever problem is happening is not universal and is definitely restricted to certain titles.

[ggtop]

After a few tests..I can confirm that BD-RB (by way, MP4Box) has a sync problem. I'm able to import some TS/MKV files and Alternatively create MKV/MP4 and only MKV sync is fine.

Hi AmigaFuture,

in case BD-RB detects a delay it instructs MP4Box to use a delay on that audio stream like this:

mp4box -add video_file -add audio_file:delay=<delay>:lang=<lang> -new output

Be aware that this delay is set on container level only.
My experience: The players I use do not respect this tag.
My solution: I set a physical delay with eac3to and remux the source files with MP4Box without delay.

In order to find out the delay to be corrected you may want to playback the file with MPC and use use "+/-" buttons on NUM pad.

You could also redo BD-RB's last step (muxing ro MP4) and examine the used commandline with Process Explorer. Good chance you will see the delay tag there.

ggtop

[AmigaFuture]

Appreciate it, ggtop. I haven't checked into it enough but I will. I use MPC-HC x64, and love it for its features (though they have reported that they don't have enough programmers to keep it active. Sad Face! It always respects aspect radios where VLC doesn't, or hasn't and I haven't used than in over a year or more. I didn't consider "+/-", will check.

Edited: Found the typo! Thanks to CV91913 and JDobbs. First looked at a different message. Always appreciate corrections, and I offer them also.

[sneaker_ger]

My experience: The players I use do not respect this tag.
I use MPC-HC x64
FWIW: Last time I tested MPC-HC/LAV supported delays in mp4 just fine.

[AmigaFuture]

Aspect ratios, not audio/video sync.

[AmigaFuture]

FWIW: Last time I tested MPC-HC/LAV supported delays in mp4 just fine.

I use MPC-HC x64, and love it for it's features (though they have reported that they don't have enough programmers to keep it active.

If you're going to quote me, which is fine, don't remove the punctuation, maybe adjust for it. I'm not a millennial. I care about such stuff. It's part of speech and written grammar. Appreciate it deeply.

I appreciate your comment, but I wasn't referencing delays with MPC-HC, I was commenting on aspect ratios. 1:1, 4:3, 16:9, etc.. I'm not offended, making myself known better. ;-)

LAV might support sync errors better in MP4, but...I still noticed it. I haven't used MP4 in a while, very, very little testing since I haven't used my iPad 2 in a long time that way. Which I'm considering selling.. I don't care for Apple's direction and Copy Protection methods anymore.

Edit: Noticed MP4 A/V Sync errors with MPC-HC. BUT didn't know if it's because OF MPC-HC...when I first reported, and still don't.

[CV91913]

If you're going to quote me, which is fine, don't remove the punctuation, maybe adjust for it. I'm not a millennial. I care about such stuff. It's part of speech and written grammar. Appreciate it deeply.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. But, for the record, your use of "it's" in your original post is not the possessive of it. It is the conjunction of it is or it has. Just trying to be grammatically correct. :)

[Ch3vr0n]

What's this topic about? Bdrb or grammar school?

Sent from my Nexus 6P with Tapatalk

[ggtop]

FWIW: Last time I tested MPC-HC/LAV supported delays in mp4 just fine.

You may be correct as I wasn't very specific. The reason I do not rely on delay-flagged MP4s is that I use the same MP4 on PC, Apple devices and on my TV streamed from my NAS via DLNA.

To clarify my procedure: Mux MP4 with MP4Box without delay first and find out which physical delay needs to get applied to the audio source(s) before correcting with e.g. eac3to. I use MPC-HC for testing and analysing.

ggtop

[AmigaFuture]

I'm not sure what you are talking about. But, for the record, your use of "it's" in your original post is not the possessive of it. It is the conjunction of it is or it has. Just trying to be grammatically correct. :)

"Its part of speech."?? Thats incorrect. So is that. :) If I'm incorrect or I miss something in proof-reading then I always appreciate it being pointed to.

@ Ch3vr0n

The formulation of thought, and conveying it is improved through grammar.

@ggtop (Man, I keep thinking ZZ Top!! Haw, haw!)

I haven't found an DLNA that does a great job. My BDs are converted to MKV if I don't use discs, and I do. Even the extras are converted to MKV. DLNA do well, it seems on a lot of videos but not all. Especially not with DTS. My HDTV did a "buffering" on the screen several minutes in. I haven't noticed this yet with AC-3, and normally I don't use Streaming because older DLNA actually did on the fly transcoding and I could see it. Grr! HA.

Currently I'm using SmartShare from LG. But I'm still preferring connecting a USB Hard Drive to the TV and that has had 0 problems. I don't rerender much from 1080p, keep it all Lossless video with BD-RB.

I giggled today when I noticed the "Instant Digital Copy" on the over of "Ready Player One", and if more people knew about BD-RB (JD!!!) their copies would be Theirs...for anything device. Currently testing it now with DVD-5/9.

[jdobbs]

@Rich86

Just wanted to let you know that I ran "Ready Player One" with output set to DVD and your settings. I was able to reproduce the issue. That makes it a lot easier to track it down, so I expect I'll have it fixed for the next release. I'll look at it closer tomorrow.

[jdobbs]

You may be correct as I wasn't very specific. The reason I do not rely on delay-flagged MP4s is that I use the same MP4 on PC, Apple devices and on my TV streamed from my NAS via DLNA.

To clarify my procedure: Mux MP4 with MP4Box without delay first and find out which physical delay needs to get applied to the audio source(s) before correcting with e.g. eac3to. I use MPC-HC for testing and analysing.

ggtopI also use a DLNA server for most of my movie playback (Serviio). But I always mux into MKVs rather than MP4s. I assume that's why I've never had an issue with delays.

[jdobbs]

@AmigaFuture

"its features" rather than "it's features" -- possessive pronoun rule. To be fair, though, you will probably find posts where I have done the same. Frankly, it seems clearer to me.

[AmigaFuture]

@Rich86

Just wanted to let you know that I ran "Ready Player One" with output set to DVD and your settings. I was able to reproduce the issue. That makes it a lot easier to track it down, so I expect I'll have it fixed for the next release. I'll look at it closer tomorrow.

I came across the same problem using my own config.

[AmigaFuture]

@AmigaFuture

"its features" rather than "it's features" -- possessive pronoun rule. To be fair, though, you will probably find posts where I have done the same. Frankly, it seems clearer to me.

Now I found it, I didn't go back far enough. Adjusted and credited. I know credit isn't required, but I thought it funny anyway.

I completely agree now that I figured which one it is. :D I normally don't miss those. It's (<--) like those "their, there and they're" or "you're" and "your"...those "drive me nuts" when confused. High 5 you 2. Virtual Beer passed to both. Hehe.

JD, I have...I just haven't commented much. For whatever reason. All is good. --------- Jerks! (Muffled laugh)

[MrVideo]

If I'm incorrect or I miss something in proof-reading then I always appreciate it being pointed to.
I'm guessing that the following has lots of errors on purpose: :D
I haven't found an [a] DLNA [server] that does a great job. My BDs are converted to MKV if I don't use discs, and I do. Even the extras are converted to MKV. DLNA do[es] well, it seems on a lot of videos[,] but not all. Especially not with DTS. My HDTV did a "buffering" on the screen several minutes in. I haven't noticed this yet with AC-3, and normally I don't use Streaming because [an] older DLNA [server] actually did on the fly transcoding and I could see it. Grr! HA.

Currently I'm using SmartShare from LG. But I'm still preferring connecting a USB Hard Drive to the TV and that has had 0 problems. I don't rerender much from 1080p, keep it all Lossless video with BD-RB.
You do not have the space to store lossless videos, especially movies.
I giggled today when I noticed the "Instant Digital Copy" on the [c]over of "Ready Player One", and if more people knew about BD-RB (JD!!!) their copies would be Theirs...for anything device. Currently testing it now with DVD-5/9.
I have a QNAP NAS (TS-451A) that I use only for video streaming to my monitor/amp. I use MyKodi (a QNAP user's special release) to do the streaming. It will work with all of the audio formats, untouched, down the HDMI cable to the amp. The amp then decodes the audio.

[jdobbs]

@Rich86

Well, I found the error. It appears it isn't related to BD-RB, but, instead, the source. It has nothing to do with the subtitles. It seems that an AC3 stream being multiplexed has an issue of some sort. Here is the error that MPLEX is kicking out (apparently at the very end of the stream):

**ERROR: [mplex.exe] Can't find next AC3 frame: @ 470303232 we have a03d - broken bit-stream?

I tried playing the resulting VOB output -- and it appears to be fine. The audio is all there up to the very end. So it must be an end-of-stream detection issue of some sort.

The really interesting part is that I seem to only get the error when I am using your settings! That kinda' defies the logic I see, and I think I'll need to reconfirm that by running the job with my settings again -- as when I used my settings I only kept one audio track. That brings up a final note. The settings you sent me couldn't be exactly what you used when you posted your log -- as this one is set to keep all audio streams (5 of them) and all subtitle streams while your log indicates it is keeping only one.

[Edit] It's the first audio track. The stream is defective. Choose to keep the second (DTS) English track instead. It will be converted to AC3 and will work fine.

[Lathe]

I'm guessing that the following has lots of errors on purpose: :D



Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaFuture

"If I'm incorrect or I miss something in proof-reading then I always appreciate it being pointed to.
I'm guessing that the following has lots of errors on purpose:
Quote:
I haven't found an [a] DLNA [server] that does a great job. My BDs are converted to MKV if I don't use discs, and I do. Even the extras are converted to MKV. DLNA do[es] well, it seems on a lot of videos[,] but not all. Especially not with DTS. My HDTV did a "buffering" on the screen several minutes in. I haven't noticed this yet with AC-3, and normally I don't use Streaming because [an] older DLNA [server] actually did on the fly transcoding and I could see it. Grr! HA.render much from 1080p, keep it all Lossless video with BD-RB."

Oh man, giving this kind of stuff to Mr. Video is like giving Heroin to a junkie! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/doh.gif

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Well, I found the error. It appears it isn't related to BD-RB, but, instead, the source. It has nothing to do with the subtitles. It seems that an AC3 stream being multiplexed has an issue of some sort. Here is the error that MPLEX is kicking out (apparently at the very end of the stream):

**ERROR: [mplex.exe] Can't find next AC3 frame: @ 470303232 we have a03d - broken bit-stream?

I tried playing the resulting VOB output -- and it appears to be fine. The audio is all there up to the very end. So it must be an end-of-stream detection issue of some sort.

The really interesting part is that I seem to only get the error when I am using your settings! That kinda' defies the logic I see, and I think I'll need to reconfirm that by running the job with my settings again -- as when I used my settings I only kept one audio track. That brings up a final note. The settings you sent me couldn't be exactly what you used when you posted your log -- as this one is set to keep all audio streams (5 of them) and all subtitle streams while your log indicates it is keeping only one.

[Edit] It's the first audio track. The stream is defective. Choose to keep the second (DTS) English track instead. It will be converted to AC3 and will work fine.

Thanks for all your investigation.
Sticking with "Ready Player One" - I only kept the english audio (chose the 1st DTS-MA track & set it as the default) and 1st english subtitles. I believe it works fine if I do not include any subtitles, but I would have to test that again as it has been a while. I am out of town all this coming week, but will test using "Ready Player One" more when I am back home the week following & post with the correct setting log(s). I wonder why these work ok in multiAVCHD? It must not use mplex?

[MrVideo]

Oh man, giving this kind of stuff to Mr. Video is like giving Heroin to a junkie! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/doh.gif
ROTFLMAO :eek:

[AmigaFuture]

ROTFLMAO :eek:

I'm glad you're having fun. Do you have a T-Shirt called "I'm silently correcting your grammar."? ;-) I did open the door on purpose, but it's not always easily known, online.

@ Lathe

Hah, hah, haha! That was great!

@ Rich86

"Ready Player One" also does fine if you rip it as Alternate MKV (keeping everything as is) and then import that and use Alternate DVD-5/9. Not everyone wants to go through the extra step.

[Lathe]

I'm glad you're having fun. Do you have a T-Shirt called "I'm silently correcting your grammar."? ;-) I did open the door on purpose, but it's not always easily known, online.

@ Lathe

Hah, hah, haha! That was great!

@ Rich86

"Ready Player One" also does fine if you rip it as Alternate MKV (keeping everything as is) and then import that and use Alternate DVD-5/9. Not everyone wants to go through the extra step.

You're a good sport AmigaFuture :)

[Lathe]

ROTFLMAO :eek:

Dude, it is SO true, you catch EVERYTHING! :D

[AmigaFuture]

For sure, Lathe! Life is not too short, it's how you create it...and have fun with it. Don't be too serious about much at all and you'll have a blast, even in very challenging situations.

[Lathe]

For sure, Lathe! Life is not too short, it's how you create it...and have fun with it. Don't be too serious about much at all and you'll have a blast, even in very challenging situations.

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif

[AmigaFuture]

MrVideo... I saw this and thought of you, as well as myself. Also, JDobbs. For a very disturbing reason, also Lathe..

[varekai]

MrVideo... I saw this and thought of you, as well as myself. Also, JDobbs. For a very disturbing reason, also Lathe..
http://www.roadkilltshirts.com/Assets/ProductImages/PS_0666W_COOKING_FAMILY.jpg

[MrVideo]

I'm glad you're having fun. Do you have a T-Shirt called "I'm silently correcting your grammar."? ;-) I did open the door on purpose, but it's not always easily known, online.
No, I do not. The key was the statement before. That coupled with the obvious errors meant that you were fishing.

[Lathe]

http://www.roadkilltshirts.com/Assets/ProductImages/PS_0666W_COOKING_FAMILY.jpg

Heh, that's great! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/laugh.gif

[Lathe]

No, I do not. The key was the statement before. That coupled with the obvious errors meant that you were fishing.

I think someone should take YOU fishing! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/club.gif

[MrVideo]

I think someone should take YOU fishing! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/club.gif
As what... shark bait? :eek:

[Lathe]

As what... shark bait? :eek:

Yep... except, I'm afraid YOU would eat the shark! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif

[Blurayhd]

Hi there, I just need to ask you I know IMGburn for burn Bluray disc is great iin a fact I use it since years ago, but today a family member has given to me a licence for Nero Burning Rom Platinum 2018 and I just need to know if I burn the Bluray movies that I encode with Bdrebuilder and (obviously) not use IMGburn any more, do you recommend this? I mean, I dont want to lose any movie because Nero, if you say I have to keep use IMGburn I´ll do that.

Anyway I wish to know if some next release of Bd rebuilder (thank you Jdobbs) is coming or what because I check almost every day)

have a nice week!!

[Lathe]

Hi there, I just need to ask you I know IMGburn for burn Bluray disc is great iin a fact I use it since years ago, but today a family member has given to me a licence for Nero Burning Rom Platinum 2018 and I just need to know if I burn the Bluray movies that I encode with Bdrebuilder and (obviously) not use IMGburn any more, do you recommend this? I mean, I dont want to lose any movie because Nero, if you say I have to keep use IMGburn I´ll do that.

Anyway I wish to know if some next release of Bd rebuilder (thank you Jdobbs) is coming or what because I check almost every day)

have a nice week!!

Well, this is just my OPINION, but I've never been a fan of Nero and similar software due to their very bloated and resource intensive nature. IMGburn is consistently very good, fast, with a very small 'footprint' on one's computer. It does everything that needs to be done. That is all that I use and will use.

[Ch3vr0n]

Nero has been nothing but bloatware since v9. Nero is in my mind too pretty damn inferior compared to IMGBurn on pretty much all fronts. From UI over easy to use to burn quality and even getting a successful burn to begin with.

If someone offered me a license to Nero, I wouldn't even take it. Bdrb only creates an output ready to burn. Whatever you use to burn, or the burning result is out of bdrb's control. Even if you use bdrb and it's ability to immediately burn with IMGBurn, the burn responsibility and result is still with IMGBurn and your drive.

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[jdobbs]

Yeah. I'm not a big fan of Nero either... I used it long ago, but I like IMGBurn better.

[AmigaFuture]

I do not. The key was the statement before. That coupled with the obvious errors meant that you were fishing.

I do have a Shirt like that. So do some friends. Grammar is fun, should be fun and at times more relaxed when not being professional is A-Okay. One of the Masters of English, our loved Boss Man, conveyed he misses his own stuff sometimes. But, MrVideo, as helpful as you are...sometimes...I think you're a bit too serious at times. As well as another that's here often.. I'll let Lathe point to whom...if he wants. Heh.

But, you know what? We are a pretty good variety of Motley Crue. Except for Lathe who goes darker than the rest of us..when he drinks that Parrot drink, and then gonca clunks him on the head. That's always great fodder for a new Mel Brooks movie (Yo!! Mel!?!?!).

[AmigaFuture]

Hi there, I just need to ask you I know IMGburn for burn Bluray disc is great iin a fact I use it since years ago, but today a family member has given to me a licence for Nero Burning Rom Platinum 2018 and I just need to know if I burn the Bluray movies that I encode with Bdrebuilder and (obviously) not use IMGburn any more, do you recommend this? I mean, I dont want to lose any movie because Nero, if you say I have to keep use IMGburn I´ll do that.

ImgBurn and BD-Rebuilder are 2 bits of software that go great together. Vs...very Bloated Neo. I was a fan of Neo software over 7 years ago. But I haven't installed since then. Stay with these 2.

[Lathe]

I do have a Shirt like that. So do some friends. Grammar is fun, should be fun and at times more relaxed when not being professional is A-Okay. One of the Masters of English, our loved Boss Man, conveyed he misses his own stuff sometimes. But, MrVideo, as helpful as you are...sometimes...I think you're a bit too serious at times. As well as another that's here often.. I'll let Lathe point to whom...if he wants. Heh.

But, you know what? We are a pretty good variety of Motley Crue. Except for Lathe who goes darker than the rest of us..when he drinks that Parrot drink, and then gonca clunks him on the head. That's always great fodder for a new Mel Brooks movie (Yo!! Mel!?!?!).

Mr. Video... is...

TOO SERIOUS...???!!!

WHA....!!?

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/shocked.gif

[AmigaFuture]

Lathe, that's what you confided to me recently.

[Mark_Venture]

Lol and the build to ISO on my samsung 960 Pro took a whopping 50 seconds :D 99-106x.

That only leave's this @Jdobbs

Now to hope there won't be any graphical glitches (or has that problem that was present in early builds with hardware encoding being used) been solved?

Is that fixed?

**edit** nupe. Setting 0/0 results in severe pixellation issues. Guess i have some tinkering to do to find out which settings work best.
Just a follow up... 8700K with FRIM_SW_DECODE=0 & FRIM_SW_ENCODE=0 to my ini, doing a Alt Movie Only to MKV of a 3D disc, the resulting file has no pixellation.. and good speeds.

[Ch3vr0n]

perhaps but i don't have an 8700k, so while thanks for trying to help. It's no use, different cpu and you're not doing what i'm doing. Which is FULL DISC backup to BD25. I'm waiting on a new brdb build that should have a switch for SEI data

[Mark_Venture]

perhaps but i don't have an 8700k, so while thanks for trying to help. It's no use, different cpu and you're not doing what i'm doing. Which is FULL DISC backup to BD25. I'm waiting on a new brdb build that should have a switch for SEI dataYeah, as mentioned in the other thread, I was unsuccessful with my 6700k (most of the MKV file was black).. so I figured I'd try it now that the upgrade is in place and working..

I did run a "Full backup" w/Quicker Extras too... I just didn't burn it to disc yet... the M2TS files played with VLC on my PC look ok...

I used Avatar 3D, only took an hour which is crazy fast for a 3D Bluray in BD-Rebuilder.

[Blurayhd]

Hi all, time ago I asked some related but I dont get it clear, I really wonder how many people here use a laptop for encoding with Bd Rebuider? my laptop extract the hot air by the back, I have an i5 7200U 2.50 / 2.70 with 8gb ddr4 Windows 10 and recently I just open my laptop to clean any dust and I change the original thermal paste for the Artic MX4 so you dont have idea how much I need to use my laptop for encoding BD50 to BD25 with BD rebuilder but the hardware have to cross may hours to do that and I really worry about it

So, what you think?

Please excuse me my english is not my first language but I tryng to do my best

have a nice day!!

[Ch3vr0n]

If it only has an Intel embedded gpu, any laptop isn't really fit for ANY TYPE of video encoding

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[Blurayhd]

If it only has an Intel embedded gpu, any laptop isn't really fit for ANY TYPE of video encoding

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

Dear Ch3vr0n first thank you for answer, I know some friends that using his laptop for work and they use Premiere for encoding for hours and have an i3 with maybe 4gb and when I asked him for the hardware, etc they never pay attention for really and just works without any problems and for that is my curiousity

Time ago I tried with some other third program to encode from HD to DVD and I tried almost 2 hours and this program that I used said using Intel HD GPU for encoding" without any kind of problem and I did it because I was give a try for make sure before use the best for me Be rebuiilder but still need some opinions

[ggtop]

So, what you think?

Hi,

the most important thing (when using a Laptop) for CPU intensive tasks is the cooling. And that's where you will find big differences. I'm still using a 6 year old i5-4200M for 50% of my encodes. Never had a single issue with it. OK, it is slower than my desktop but I don't care. Even running batches of a whole series with 2 dozens episodes is running fine. 20 hours under full load...no problem.
I do not say that this will work with any laptop hardware but if it is designed for performance I do not see a reason not to use it for BD-RB.

Low Budget Laptops won't have high-performance cooling parts. Therefore it is possible you'll find some parts soldered out after some hours 100% load due to missing ablity to blow out the heat :D Had this with a former laptop after running DVD Rebuilder 8 (!) years non stop ...

ggtop

[houzer]

Can't remove Director's comments (audio and video) from BD with BD-RB. I've tried several different settings, like not including various subtitles, including not including any sub-titles. Am I missing something? BD-RB v.0.50.25 The comments don't play in the rip, only after running it through BD-RB.
TIA

[Lathe]

Can't remove Director's comments (audio and video) from BD with BD-RB. I've tried several different settings, like not including various subtitles, including not including any sub-titles. Am I missing something? BD-RB v.0.50.25 The comments don't play in the rip, only after running it through BD-RB.
TIA

Sounds like you just need to use the 'Edit Mode & Manual Blanking' where you can choose the m2ts file that has the video commentary and blank it. I believe that you have to have these enabled in your configuration file:

ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1

[jdobbs]

Can't remove Director's comments (audio and video) from BD with BD-RB. I've tried several different settings, like not including various subtitles, including not including any sub-titles. Am I missing something? BD-RB v.0.50.25 The comments don't play in the rip, only after running it through BD-RB.
TIAI'd need to see your log. From your post I can't even tell what kind of backup you are doing. You should be able to choose to keep or remove any audio stream or subtitle by double clicking on the item in the streams list.

[AmigaFuture]

Extra from "Role Models".

I'm having BD-RB make an Alternative MKV of extras..and I noticed this. It doesn't matter which Decoder is used. I've now disabled MULTIPROCESS. Check that.

[08/13/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[17:39:23] Source: ROLE_MODELS_[UNRATED]_00100
- Input BD size: 5.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:49:49.819]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [3-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:39:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:39:25] Processing: VID_00361 (1 of 81)
- [17:39:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00361]
- [17:39:33] Reencoding video [VID_00361]
- [17:39:33] Keeping original video (no reencode)

[...All goes well...]

- [17:47:02] Reencoding video [VID_00442]
- [17:47:02] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[17:47:03]PHASE ONE complete
[17:47:03]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:47:03] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 0
[17:49:24] - Failed to REBUILD

The work-around is it make a BD Movie-Only BD then make MKV.

[jdobbs]

That error message is coming from TSMUXER. Usually it means that some part of the source is corrupt. The odd part is that it appears to have demuxed from the original stream ok, but is finding an issue when it tries to remux. The fact that it works after remuxing via movie only is odd too. Can you zip up the entire log and post it (I know it will be long with 81 parts). I'd also like to see the .meta file from the working folder.

[AmigaFuture]

You're really be bossy, boss man. Hehe. As you requested. Didn't keep what I posted, so repeated.

[MrVideo]

Going to a new mobo has not totally solved the issues. To wit, the following error showed up, twice in a row:
CreateQuickMenu() 00076 4000
The first of two menus was created, but it dies on the 2nd menu.

The thing is, before I changed one of the MKV files, it worked.

Update: Just did it with the original files. No go.

Update #2: In frustration I rebooted. Have I ever mentioned that I hate M$? That fixed the issue. What does the error above mean? I tried thread search for CreateQuickMenu, but all I got back was this posting and two others, unrelated to this. I must have had a different menu creation error with the previous mobo. I do not remember what it was.

[jdobbs]

Going to a new mobo has not totally solved the issues. To wit, the following error showed up, twice in a row:
CreateQuickMenu() 00076 4000
The first of two menus was created, but it dies on the 2nd menu.

The thing is, before I changed one of the MKV files, it worked.

Update: Just did it with the original files. No go.

Update #2: In frustration I rebooted. Have I ever mentioned that I hate M$? That fixed the issue. What does the error above mean? I tried thread search for CreateQuickMenu, but all I got back was this posting and two others, unrelated to this. I must have had a different menu creation error with the previous mobo. I do not remember what it was.Error 76 means "path not found". The "4000" is just a progress indicator that narrows down (in the code) where the error occured. Looking at the code there, a guess might be that the menu audio or picture path was inaccessible at the time it ran. Either that or the path to X264 or the TMP folder used for encoding the picture.

[AmigaFuture]

I stopped hating M$ years ago, it only adds to bothersome mental blockages. Ha. MS isn't my favorite it all, even more so since the release of 8 and 10 (Fugly and clunky; though memory management is better..still not worth using daily). I'm thinking that's a "file lock" error?

Update: OOpps..was beat by JD. :-)

@ JD

Pardon, do you also want the BD creation and MKV creation logs/files for the Extra work-around?

[MrVideo]

Error 76 means "path not found". The "4000" is just a progress indicator that narrows down (in the code) where the error occured. Looking at the code there, a guess might be that the menu audio or picture path was inaccessible at the time it ran. Either that or the path to X264 or the TMP folder used for encoding the picture.
Weird, considering that it just did menu #1.

[Blurayhd]

Hi all, I just finish encode my backup of Star Wars The Last jedi, I´m a very fan and I like the menu, so I keep the trueHD English and Spanish (my first language) and I setup Bd rebuilder to encode the best quality Very slow (as always do) but when Bd rebuilder finish the encoding I wacth the result on my tv LED and I dont know if is just me or the image could be several reduce because the Truehd that size is 5.272.670.208? What do you say? I need to encode it with DTS with less size?

Maybe an audio track size 5.272.670.208 (keeping the HD intact) is too much for an encode of 25gb?

Anyway I dont know, some people at home says the image is amazing, but like I said I dont, maybe is the grain? maybe is the movie?

[MrVideo]

The menu creation error happened yet again. It gets through the creation of menu #1, but as soon as it tries to do #2, it errors out. Obviously all of the pieces needed to create the menu are there, otherwise it wouldn't be able to do #1. There has to be a way to trap the error and bring up a "Try Again" dialog box.

This time around, instead of rebooting, I tried again. It made it this time. Instead of starting over, it would be great if BDRB would notice that it never really finished the previous project and take up there it left off, i.e., the creation of menu #2. Of course BDRB would need to ask to continue or start over.

There has to be a way. :D

[AmigaFuture]

Hi all, I just finish encode my backup of Star Wars The Last jedi, I´m a very fan and I like the menu, so I keep the trueHD English and Spanish (my first language) and I setup Bd rebuilder to encode the best quality Very slow (as always do) but when Bd rebuilder finish the encoding I wacth the result on my tv LED and I dont know if is just me or the image could be several reduce because the Truehd that size is 5.272.670.208? What do you say? I need to encode it with DTS with less size?

Maybe an audio track size 5.272.670.208 (keeping the HD intact) is too much for an encode of 25gb?

Anyway I dont know, some people at home says the image is amazing, but like I said I dont, maybe is the grain? maybe is the movie?

This move, "The Last Jedi", caused the end of my deep love with Star Wars, Brian caused the character Luke to go in ways he should not have gone. I love the scene with Yoda, and that's it. Other than that, I'm assuming you're using BD and not Ultra.. The DTS isn't going hurt the quality that much unless you're very picky as I am, and I CAN see a difference (really not a huge deal). Most people don't see it, don't care.. Those of us really into this stuff, can. I almost always convert DTS to AC-3. 25GB with Very Best set has always made a reproduction that is brilliant, to me. Any rerender is going to have SOME loss. I don't care how big you start with. Maybe lower your own pickiness down some? Hehe.. I've had to for Me (but more so, become more "Shhh.." for others...and retain my own around others that are cool with this stuff).

[Lathe]

but as soon as it tries to do #2, it errors out.

Do I even need to add anything here...?

[Blurayhd]

This move, "The Last Jedi", caused the end of my deep love with Star Wars, Brian caused the character Luke to go in ways he should not have gone. I love the scene with Yoda, and that's it.

Me too about all about the Last Jedi but what can I do? I just love Star Wars and in a way or other, it is a part and about encoding I always encode DTS to AC3 so I can get some better quality on image but this disc I like the menu etc so because that I diced to encode full backup

But, if you dont mind dear AmigaFuture if other people here can give me they opinion I´ll so appreciate it.

[Lathe]

Me too about all about the Last Jedi but what can I do? I just love Star Wars and in a way or other, it is a part and about encoding I always encode DTS to AC3 so I can get some better quality on image but this disc I like the menu etc so because that I diced to encode full backup

But, if you dont mind dear AmigaFuture if other people here can give me they opinion I´ll so appreciate it.

Well, in my lowly and wretched opinion, if you are compressing a film to BD25, and especially if you are using very high settings, that is MORE THAN PLENTY of room, even using LOSSLESS audio, for a movie to look very, very good. Think about it... JD and others here have said that a full Blu-ray can be compressed even onto a BD9 (without lossless audio though in this case) and the film can look excellent. So, a BD25 even with full lossless audio with higher settings would look great. Even with the lossless audio taking up 5 gigs or so, I'm sure even JD would agree that the remaining 18 gigs or so for the film is MORE than sufficient. Now, if you were compressing to smaller sizes, that would be a different issue, but I'm quite sure that using a BD25 is totally sufficient for excellent quality, and I am the kind of person who DOES use x264 Tweaks on every encode and I use a High, 2 pass setting, and I keep Lossless audio, and I use a BD25.

[AmigaFuture]

Do I even need to add anything here...?

Oh, my Enki.... You're so........waiting for someone to go #1 or 2.. Do you offer tissues or condoms to people in restrooms under the wall?

[Lathe]

Oh, my Enki.... You're so........waiting for someone to go #1 or 2.. Do you offer tissues or condoms to people in restrooms under the wall?

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/rolleyes2.gif

[AmigaFuture]

Me too about all about the Last Jedi but what can I do? I just love Star Wars and in a way or other, it is a part and about encoding I always encode DTS to AC3 so I can get some better quality on image but this disc I like the menu etc so because that I diced to encode full backup

But, if you dont mind dear AmigaFuture if other people here can give me they opinion I´ll so appreciate it.

I still respect everything Lucas, R2-D2, Luke and so on.. May I suggest that you start extracting the Movie and Extras from your BDs and make your own backup? Then you have more control of your backup. If someone wants the Menus, you have your BD..and so on.

NO!!! Blurayhd, my reply is the ONLY reply you should read or consider. (I'm teasing you...)

[AmigaFuture]

Do I even need to add anything here...?

Ohh, I get it...under the stall he seems like gonca. Autographs are better in person, Lathe, not Underhanded..under stalls.

That's like a Rock Star's worse "nightmare".

[Lathe]

Ohh, I get it...under the stall he seems like gonca. Autographs are better in person, Lathe, not Underhanded..under stalls.

That's like a Rock Star's worse "nightmare".

Oh boy... Well, at least your putting gonca in the sordid context does seem to make more sense...

[gonca]

in my lowly and wretched opinion
Well, Lathe, I see that you are making mental progress
You are finally being honest about your self worth
Keep up the good work

[jdobbs]

Hi all, I just finish encode my backup of Star Wars The Last jedi, I´m a very fan and I like the menu, so I keep the trueHD English and Spanish (my first language) and I setup Bd rebuilder to encode the best quality Very slow (as always do) but when Bd rebuilder finish the encoding I wacth the result on my tv LED and I dont know if is just me or the image could be several reduce because the Truehd that size is 5.272.670.208? What do you say? I need to encode it with DTS with less size?

Maybe an audio track size 5.272.670.208 (keeping the HD intact) is too much for an encode of 25gb?

Anyway I dont know, some people at home says the image is amazing, but like I said I dont, maybe is the grain? maybe is the movie?If you keep a 5GB audio track, you are bound to see some degradation in video... you've used 1/5 of the total available space for a single audio track (and there are likely be more). Worse is the fact that there really is no such thing as "HD Audio" in the real world, it's a marketing gimmick -- so it's not only a lot of used space, it's a lot of wasted space. The standard human ear can only hear ~20Hz-20Khz -- and AC-3 provides that. Some will argue that they have "magic" ears and can hear the difference -- but every scientific double-blind test says they can't. In most cases the manufacturer will add a little extra volume to the "HD" audio to give the appearance of clarity. Snake oil. JMHO.

As mentioned earlier -- normally a 25GB backup is plenty of space for both video and "HD" audio... but in a full backup there can be a LOT of extraneous other video/audio included as well. I've even seen discs that have hours of unreferenced video included on the disc just to try to ruin a backup's quality (although BD-RB sees that and adjusts for it).

[MrVideo]

Do I even need to add anything here...?
Oops! :D

[ttz]

Hello everyone
I cannot complete this backup. Please help me.

[08/16/18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[14:40:28] Source: RP1
- Input BD size: 45.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:22:45.431]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:40:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:40:38] Processing: VID_00042 (1 of 1)
- [14:40:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [14:47:22] Reencoding video [VID_00042]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 201,357 frames
- Bitrate: 20,985 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [14:47:22] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 1
[14:48:25] - Failed video encode, aborted

Thanks

[MrVideo]

Worse is the fact that there really is no such thing as "HD Audio" in the real world, it's a marketing gimmick
True, while "HD" audio doesn't really exist, it is a marketing term for lossless audio. Liken it to DVD 480p MPEG-2 compression to 1080p H.264 compression (yes both are lossy, but one is a lot less lossy than the other :D). With "HD" audio you have drastically reduced compression artifacts, after decoding. Depending on the sound system used to reproduce the audio, you may, or may not, be able to hear the difference. For most... not.

For the Dolby and DTS "HD" audio streams, you especially do not want to recode to AC3. The lossy cores do not like being recoded, especially Dolby. That adds more compression artifacts to the mix. Instead you want to keep the cores of these two "HD" streams. No recoding required. I do not know if BDRB recodes or extracts.

The eac3to program is supposed to be able to extract the cores. Since it doesn't do any actual encoding, that is all it can do. If you use DVD-Fab to remove the compression, use the option to remove the "HD" portion of the audio. That will also leave you with the core. Then pass that on thru BDRB.

[Lathe]

Oops! :D

pOops...?

[Lathe]

Well, Lathe, I see that you are making mental progress
You are finally being honest about your self worth
Keep up the good work

Just lulling you into a false sense of security my Great Northern friend...

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/evilfaces.gif

[AmigaFuture]

"Role Models" update.. I ripped it 3 other different times between MakeMKV and AnyDVD and still the same error with extra. But as you commented it is related to TSMUXER. At least the work-around does well.

@ Lathe

very funky smiley graphic.

[gonca]

Just lulling you into a false sense of security my Great Northern friend...

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/evilfaces.gif

Lathe
Go up the stairs, and out the door.
Its time to get out of mothers basement, get some fresh air.
I am assuming that they didn't chain you down in the basement in order to hide you, and your hideous physical deformities
P.S.
When out in public, don't be peeking below the stall walls
Its not a good way to get a date, but you might get a chocolate surprise

[Lathe]

Lathe
Go up the stairs, and out the door.
Its time to get out of mothers basement, get some fresh air.
I am assuming that they didn't chain you down in the basement in order to hide you, and your hideous physical deformities
P.S.
When out in public, don't be peeking below the stall walls
Its not a good way to get a date, but you might get a chocolate surprise

Nice...

You know, it never ceases to amaze me the astounding environment in which the Canadian mind resides...

[Blurayhd]

Hello everyone I need some help here, I just dont know how to do it, I have Star Wars The last jedi that have English DTS HD MA size almost 5gb and I do not sure about the image quality so, I encode the DTS HD 5gb track to DTS with eac3 and I get one track 1.6gb and AC3 720mb, so I really wish to encode this movie BD50 with his menus to BD25 with the DTS and AC3 file, but I dont know how to replace the audios tracks and so then I can encode to BD25 keeping the menu without DTSHD MA but keeping DTS AC3?

I really hope you can understand if not, please let me know, English is no my first language

Thank you in advance!!

[Lathe]

Hello everyone I need some help here, I just dont know how to do it, I have Star Wars The last jedi that have English DTS HD MA size almost 5gb and I do not sure about the image quality so, I encode the DTS HD 5gb track to DTS with eac3 and I get one track 1.6gb and AC3 720mb, so I really wish to encode this movie BD50 with his menus to BD25 with the DTS and AC3 file, but I dont know how to replace the audios tracks and so then I can encode to BD25 keeping the menu without DTSHD MA but keeping DTS AC3?

I really hope you can understand if not, please let me know, English is no my first language

Thank you in advance!!

Yes, your best best is to keep the DTS core for the main audio. Looking at BDRB's settings, I can't see how you can do that directly, perhaps JD knows. Otherwise, you can simply take your ripped BDMV / CERT folders and drop them into TSMuxer, select the main audio file, and choose 'keep DTS core' or something like that, and render a new set of BDMV / CERT folders, and then use the NEW ones to load into BDRB. I don't know what you mean by the AC3 track. Is that ANOTHER audio track that you want to keep?

[Blurayhd]

Yes, your best best is to keep the DTS core for the main audio. Looking at BDRB's settings, I can't see how you can do that directly, perhaps JD knows. Otherwise, you can simply take your ripped BDMV / CERT folders and drop them into TSMuxer, select the main audio file, and choose 'keep DTS core' or something like that, and render a new set of BDMV / CERT folders, and then use the NEW ones to load into BDRB. I don't know what you mean by the AC3 track. Is that ANOTHER audio track that you want to keep?

Thank you dear I already tried that I just add the mts file on Tsmuxer and then I change the DTSHD for DTS and I just replace that new mts on BDMV but I dont know why but Rebuilder take as DTSHD and not DTS that I replace.

All I wish to do is encode to BD25 keeping the menu but without DTSHD, just DTS core

I dont know...

[Lathe]

Thank you dear I already tried that I just add the mts file on Tsmuxer and then I change the DTSHD for DTS and I just replace that new mts on BDMV but I dont know why but Rebuilder take as DTSHD and not DTS that I replace.

All I wish to do is encode to BD25 keeping the menu but without DTSHD, just DTS core

I dont know...

Uh, that's okay... you don't hafta call me 'Dear' (cough...) but thanks...

Don't render the TSMuxer files to m2ts, render them with the audio marked 'keep DTS core' to BDMV / CERT files, just like what you load into BDRB or what you burn directly to disc.

Oh, wait a second... it just occurred to me that maybe just using the DTS core MIGHT not be legal for Blu-ray. Maybe that is why BDRB does not give you that option. Hmmm...

[MrVideo]

Oh, wait a second... it just occurred to me that maybe just using the DTS core MIGHT not be legal for Blu-ray. Maybe that is why BDRB does not give you that option. Hmmm...
DTS core, or simply DTS, is quite legal with Blu-ray.

[Lathe]

DTS core, or simply DTS, is quite legal with Blu-ray.

Oh good, I wasn't sure... I wonder why the fellow cannot simply use TSMuxer and reduce the HD audio to the core and re-render the BDMV / CERT folders and then load them into BDRB...?

[jdobbs]

True, while "HD" audio doesn't really exist, it is a marketing term for lossless audio. Liken it to DVD 480p MPEG-2 compression to 1080p H.264 compression (yes both are lossy, but one is a lot less lossy than the other :D). With "HD" audio you have drastically reduced compression artifacts, after decoding. Depending on the sound system used to reproduce the audio, you may, or may not, be able to hear the difference. For most... not.

For the Dolby and DTS "HD" audio streams, you especially do not want to recode to AC3. The lossy cores do not like being recoded, especially Dolby. That adds more compression artifacts to the mix. Instead you want to keep the cores of these two "HD" streams. No recoding required. I do not know if BDRB recodes or extracts.

The eac3to program is supposed to be able to extract the cores. Since it doesn't do any actual encoding, that is all it can do. If you use DVD-Fab to remove the compression, use the option to remove the "HD" portion of the audio. That will also leave you with the core. Then pass that on thru BDRB.Sigh... :rolleyes: Let's just ignore all the science, eh? If a human being can't identify a difference (as all the studies prove) -- then what, exactly, does "lossy" mean or matter?

BD-RB will not reencode the core and will extract it if it matches your settings. Extracting the core is a simple thing to do with TSMUXER.

[Lathe]

Sigh... :rolleyes:

Poor JD... We need to remember that he had 5 tours in 'Nam. Not only that, but the mortar gun his squad was using had a really loose and floppy barrel, so his job was to stand right next to the end of the barrel and hold it still. A bit of a bad break there and likely took its toll on his hearing...

But, I feel that he is a very clever and innovative inventor,

full of...

... promise.

[Blurayhd]

Sigh... :rolleyes: Let's just ignore all the science, eh? If a human being can't identify a difference (as all the studies prove) -- then what, exactly, does "lossy" mean or matter?

BD-RB will not reencode if the core and will extract it if it matches your settings. Extracting the core is a simple thing to do with TSMUXER.

Hi JD it is nice to see you around, I dont know what do you meant, but all I wish to do is the following;

1- I have The last jedi BD50, with menus, audio and subtitles tracks..you know

The English track has (or it is "have"?) DTSHD MA with 5gb size

So, I so wish to encode that BD50 with the menus but without DTSHDMA track, I need to replace this track for just DTS core and so then I can encode with BDrebuilder to BD25 with DTS core

I´m lost here, if you dont mean, could you tel me how to do it?

Thank you JD!!

[MrVideo]

Please, please, please... something needs to be done about the create menu problem. No other programs have issues on this new box. BDRB only has an issue with building the 2nd menu.

It works just fine when run on XP-64.

I wonder if it is some kind of race issue that BDRB is tripping up with Win7-64.

Suggestion that will hopefully fix the problem and actually speed up the creation of menus: When the background is encoded, save it for all of the menus. After doing menu #1, use that encoding for creation of all other menu structures. Since the menu background has to be the same for all menu pages, no need to keep encoding.

:thanks:

[Mark_Venture]

Hi JD it is nice to see you around, I dont know what do you meant, but all I wish to do is the following;

1- I have The last jedi BD50, with menus, audio and subtitles tracks..you know

The English track has (or it is "have"?) DTSHD MA with 5gb size

So, I so wish to encode that BD50 with the menus but without DTSHDMA track, I need to replace this track for just DTS core and so then I can encode with BDrebuilder to BD25 with DTS core

I´m lost here, if you dont mean, could you tel me how to do it?

Thank you JD!!
In BD Rebuilder, go under Settings -> Setup... and un-check the box for "Keep HD audio for BD25/Alt intact"

Then re-run the job. The new output will have the non-HD audio, only core.

[jdobbs]

Please, please, please... something needs to be done about the create menu problem. No other programs have issues on this new box. BDRB only has an issue with building the 2nd menu.

It works just fine when run on XP-64.

I wonder if it is some kind of race issue that BDRB is tripping up with Win7-64.

Suggestion that will hopefully fix the problem and actually speed up the creation of menus: When the background is encoded, save it for all of the menus. After doing menu #1, use that encoding for creation of all other menu structures. Since the menu background has to be the same for all menu pages, no need to keep encoding.

:thanks:But it's only happening to you, which makes me think the problem isn't in BD-RB. I use menu creation under Win10 almost every day in my quest to move all my DVD series discs to BD. It has never happened to me once. Trying to fix something that I can't repeat is almost impossible.

A race issue is probably a good guess. I could probably put a hidden variable in that creates a "wait" state between menus. But that's likely little more than howling at the moon without a better idea of the cause.

I encode each of the menus separately because the plan is to, at some point, enable the ability to use a different menu background for each page. It only takes a few minutes. It's another of those "wish list" items that has been around for a while. I did, by the way, add the ability to use motion video rather than a fixed picture as the background to the next release. That's one item crossed off the list.

[jdobbs]

In BD Rebuilder, go under Settings -> Setup... and un-check the box for "Keep HD audio for BD25/Alt intact"

Then re-run the job. The new output will have the non-HD audio, only core.And, to make sure you keep the DTS core intact rather than convert it to AC3, check "Do not convert DTS to AC3".

[MrVideo]

But it's only happening to you, which makes me think the problem isn't in BD-RB. I use menu creation under Win10 almost every day in my quest to move all my DVD series discs to BD. It has never happened to me once. Trying to fix something that I can't repeat is almost impossible.
Apples and oranges. Things have changed between Win7 and Win10. Hell, obviously something changed between XP and Win7. Plus, am I the only one doing two menus under Win7-64?
A race issue is probably a good guess. I could probably put a hidden variable in that creates a "wait" state between menus. But that's likely little more than howling at the moon without a better idea of the cause.
Sometimes howling at the moon works. Taking stabs at guesses sometimes manages to fix things without really knowing why. Been there, done that.
I encode each of the menus separately because the plan is to, at some point, enable the ability to use a different menu background for each page. It only takes a few minutes. It's another of those "wish list" items that has been around for a while.
I wondered if that is what you were working up to. Thought... still working toward that goal is to do what I suggest. If the user only has one background, use it for all of the other menus, only encoding again when you have more backgrounds. It is a stab to see if it fixes the issue. Long shot, I know, but worth a try.
I did, by the way, add the ability to use motion video rather than a fixed picture as the background to the next release. That's one item crossed off the list.
I definitely will give this a go. I await the release.

[MrVideo]

Here is another strange one, which has happened before the mobo was replaced.

In order to save discs, I decided to put as many files onto a disc as possible. For this particular series, that worked out to 8 files. For the last disc of three, that also included special features. But the first 8 were placed on the first menu page.

After a reboot, I can get thru four discs without issues, including a disc where two menus were created. But, on the fifth disc, and any thereafter, the following happens:
----------------------
[08:48:31] Importing: CASTLE-S5
- [08:48:40] Importing video file: (1 of 14)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [08:49:58] Importing video file: (2 of 14)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [08:51:10] Importing video file: (3 of 14)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [08:52:34] Importing video file: (4 of 14)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [08:54:06] Importing video file: (5 of 14)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [08:55:35] Importing video file: (6 of 14)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [08:57:06] Importing video file: (7 of 14)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- Source issue found, attempting correction...
[08:58:29]ERROR: Removing compression. Aborted.
There is nothing wrong with said video file. It makes no difference which disc I attempt to assemble, when it gets to the 7th video, this error happens.

Unfortunately BDRB does not report what the source issue is. Something is building up with each run of BDRB. I guess 7 is not a lucky number. :(

Update: This is new. Right after a reboot, first run of BDRB and the above happened. :mad:

Another update: I think I know what this one is. Once I know for sure, I'll post.

[Blurayhd]

In BD Rebuilder, go under Settings -> Setup... and un-check the box for "Keep HD audio for BD25/Alt intact"

Then re-run the job. The new output will have the non-HD audio, only core.

Thank you very much for that I just try it and works!! but maybe this will sound stupid but I need to ask, when I select that option so BD rebuilder eill convert DTS HD MA 5gb to DTS core 1.6gb, when BD rebuilder is doing his encoding job at the same time Bd rebuilder is encoding DTS MA to DTS core.... so in theory Bd rebuilder take the size of DTS MA and assing this for video?

[Lathe]

so in theory Bd rebuilder take the size of DTS MA and assing this for video?

Well, sometimes BDRB does indeed give us a good assing. But, I believe in humble reflection, most of us would honestly admit that we deserve it...

[gonca]

@Blurayhd
BDRB will use the space saved on the audio for the video

@Lathe
Well, sometimes BDRB does indeed give us a good assing
And you deserve every bit of it

[Blurayhd]

Hi all, I disable on Bdrebuilder all others languages that I dont need or like on disc, I keep just English and Spanish, ok so far but I notice the following if I use BDinfo just appears the tracks that I keep but if I play the disc on my pc desktop or try to watch on tv, the audio/subtitles tracks that I disable on BD rebuilder still appears and that is very upset, there´s some tool that I can use for eliminate that obsolet tracks?

Thank you in advance!!

[gonca]

Hi all, I disable on Bdrebuilder all others languages that I dont need or like on disc, I keep just English and Spanish, ok so far but I notice the following if I use BDinfo just appears the tracks that I keep but if I play the disc on my pc desktop or try to watch on tv, the audio/subtitles tracks that I disable on BD rebuilder still appears and that is very upset, there´s some tool that I can use for eliminate that obsolet tracks?

Thank you in advance!!
Don't think you have to worry
BDRD re-points those selections to the remaining tracks
If you select them you will get the tracks that you chose to keep

P.S.
Ignore Lathe
He's mentally malformed (he's weird in the head)

[Ch3vr0n]

Correct. Bdrb repoints them to one of the remaining tracks. It has to (same with any other cloning tool) because of it doesn't the bluray structure is 'broken' and the player could lock up or simply refuse/abort playback.

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[Blurayhd]

Don't think you have to worry
BDRD re-points those selections to the remaining tracks
If you select them you will get the tracks that you chose to keep


Yes I knew that but honestly? if I choose to keep English and Spanish and when I´m watching and with remote control I select English and next I like Spanish I have to select French, Portuguese... and finally Spanish

but I see now what do you mean, if I get it, is no matter the French, Portuguese... or whatever , when I select the next language from English, I´ll get in this case the Spanish , because I keep it, I´m right?

And Gonca, I´m curious, I wish to ask you and of course all people here, how many of us when encode BD50 to BD25 choice to keep the menu? or just choose to start the movie?

And if you font mind and let me ask too, how many choose BD25 and how many choose MKV? I mean, speaking about that movies that you like to preserve because I like to see again every time you like, so how do you do that? what kind of media you prefer? or choose (I dont know what word is correct)

Thank you again

[Blurayhd]

Correct. Bdrb repoints them to one of the remaining tracks. It has to (same with any other cloning tool) because of it doesn't the bluray structure is 'broken' and the player could lock up or simply refuse/abort playback.

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

Thank you ch3vron, same that I just answer to Gonca, and about that you sayng if I get it, the registry languages have to be there because the structure?

[Ch3vr0n]

If by registry you mean visible in the menu (and selectable), then yes. Perfectly normal. Bdrb can't alter the menu artwork or make them disappear from the remote language option. They just get pointed to one off the remaining tracks to keep the menu structure intact to prevent problems with navigation.

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[Lathe]

Yes I knew that but honestly? if I choose to keep English and Spanish and when I´m watching and with remote control I select English and next I like Spanish I have to select French, Portuguese... and finally Spanish

but I see now what do you mean, if I get it, is no matter the French, Portuguese... or whatever , when I select the next language from English, I´ll get in this case the Spanish , because I keep it, I´m right?

And Gonca, I´m curious, I wish to ask you and of course all people here, how many of us when encode BD50 to BD25 choice to keep the menu? or just choose to start the movie?

And if you font mind and let me ask too, how many choose BD25 and how many choose MKV? I mean, speaking about that movies that you like to preserve because I like to see again every time you like, so how do you do that? what kind of media you prefer? or choose (I dont know what word is correct)

Thank you again

Just a humble suggestion... It's probably not a good idea when asking gonca something to use so many complex and compound sentences. It would be better I think to use simple one-syllable words, if possible, perhaps incorporating some of the pictograms that he is used to...

[AmigaFuture]

Lathe
Go up the stairs, and out the door.
Its time to get out of mothers basement, get some fresh air.
I am assuming that they didn't chain you down in the basement in order to hide you, and your hideous physical deformities
P.S.
When out in public, don't be peeking below the stall walls
Its not a good way to get a date, but you might get a chocolate surprise

@ MrVideo

You want to field this one??

@ gonca

Dude!! Have you NOT seen The Goonies!?!? There's a reason he's there...and here, and other places Online only. Not that I'm freaked by any "differences" in people, but...today, plenty are.

[AmigaFuture]

Sigh... :rolleyes: Let's just ignore all the science, eh? If a human being can't identify a difference (as all the studies prove) -- then what, exactly, does "lossy" mean or matter?

BD-RB will not reencode the core and will extract it if it matches your settings. Extracting the core is a simple thing to do with TSMUXER.

Have I dated you before? NO?? Ohh, nope...not my gender. Then what is it? Oohhh, I know. You come across like my Girlfriend. Heh. Actually the discussion between You and MrVideo does. To be fair, I'm a cross between you and he. She, however, loves to play with me when I become too (hands over mouth) technical...but also knows I don't _really_ care about the _old use_ of science. It's too static and doesn't bend very well to true evolution of Evvvvvverything. But the conversations here (tapping on screen) and...HERE are innnnteresting, haha!

[Rich86]

Thanks for all your investigation.
Sticking with "Ready Player One" - I only kept the english audio (chose the 1st DTS-MA track & set it as the default) and 1st english subtitles. I believe it works fine if I do not include any subtitles, but I would have to test that again as it has been a while. I am out of town all this coming week, but will test using "Ready Player One" more when I am back home the week following & post with the correct setting log(s). I wonder why these work ok in multiAVCHD? It must not use mplex?

I had some time today to experiment more with converting my "Ready Player One" BD to DVD and to no one's surprise I am sure, it behaves exactly as JDobbs said it does - on my system also. Choosing the 1st audio track (an english Dolby TrueHD track) fails in mplex, regardless of subtitles chosen or not. Choosing the 2nd audio track (an english DTS track) works fine. So I assume there is something about the english Dolby TrueHD audio track that mplex chokes on.:thanks:

[mparade]

Is it recommended to run multiple instances of BD-RB when processor utilization is too low? I have a 16-core system and only UHD encoding seems to be saturating all the cores (2 encodes run in parallel).
Is multi-processing working with x265 as well as with x264?

Thanks for your support.

[MrVideo]

@ MrVideo

You want to field this one??

Nope!

[mparade]

Does anyone have some experience with "automatic cropping of black borders" feature in case of alternate output? Is it reliable enough by now?
Is automatic down-mixing to stereo being also performed when using AAC output and the default ALTAUTOAUDIO parameter (40) on a source track that is 5.1?
Is AUDIO_AMPLIFY parameter being performed just on down-mixed tracks or all that are contained in the project?

Thank you for the help in advance.

[MrVideo]

I like my background menus to have season info and disc number. Easily accomplished with the static background JPEG.

How is this going to be accomplished with motion menus? Thanks for any info regarding the upcoming feature.

[MrVideo]

The reason I'm asking about motion menus is that I need to know if I should stop working on the project using static menu backgrounds and start working on motion menu backgrounds. Obviously I (and anyone else who is going to want to do this) need to know how to do the background text for motion menus.

Thanks

[jdobbs]

The reason I'm asking about motion menus is that I need to know if I should stop working on the project using static menu backgrounds and start working on motion menu backgrounds. Obviously I (and anyone else who is going to want to do this) need to know how to do the background text for motion menus.

ThanksAll that is happening is that the JPEG can be replaced by a video of your choice (MKV, M2TS, or MP4). The foreground menus work exactly the same. How it becomes a video or the content of the video would be up to the person authoring. You still choose the audio independently (but I may change that so it is included in the selected MKV/M2TS/MP4). It's especially useful when you have several motion video menu backgrounds available on in imported blu-ray and you want to use something other than the default. But you can also find a particular video you think would look good and use that. Just a warning... it has to be 16:9 and will always be resized to 1920x1080 (just like the JPEG).

[MrVideo]

I only do 1920x1080. What happens when the video finishes playing? Is the last video frame frozen?

I'm guessing that it will be a freeze-frame situation. That means in order to have personal text added to the background, I will have to encode a few frames of a still image with the text and add it to the end of the video. Is my assumption correct?

[jdobbs]

I only do 1920x1080. What happens when the video finishes playing? Is the last video frame frozen?

I'm guessing that it will be a freeze-frame situation. That means in order to have personal text added to the background, I will have to encode a few frames of a still image with the text and add it to the end of the video. Is my assumption correct?Yes, the last frame is frozen. I will probably add the ability to create a loop... but not before the next release.

[MrVideo]

Yes, the last frame is frozen. I will probably add the ability to create a loop... but not before the next release.
Thanks for the update. I personally wouldn't use the loop feature as that would not allow for any personal background text. One would have to use a video editing program like Adobe Premiere, or Final Cut Pro, to add text to the motion video. Neither of which are currently in my budget. :D

[Sharc]

Thanks for the update. I personally wouldn't use the loop feature as that would not allow for any personal background text. One would have to use a video editing program like Adobe Premiere, or Final Cut Pro, to add text to the motion video. Neither of which are currently in my budget. :D
Can't you add your text via avisynth subtitle?
http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Subtitle

[MrVideo]

Can't you add your text via avisynth subtitle?
http://avisynth.nl/index.php/Subtitle
Thanks for the suggestion. Didn't know about that one. This I can afford.

Will have to use it more than once if I have multiple lines of text in different areas. The referenced link doesn't say that I can't use it more than once. But, neither does it say that I can. :D

Added note: The advantage of encoding a still image to a very short video is that it can then be appended to the end of the motion video, which means that the original motion video is not sent through a recoding process. I have a script set up to quickly create the short video, though there is currently an issue with getting the FPS right (separate thread opened for this issue).

Six of one, half dozen of the other?

Oh, and I'm ready for motion menus. :D

[sieve]

Using 0.50.25. Have been for a while. Worked great. No problems.
To my surprise, the last couple (3 for sure, maybe more) movies I copied (all U.S.) have resulted in an audio track that lags the video. I haven't changed any settings in the encoding process and I don't have anything exotic in the processing. I typically select to keep only the highest quality English audio track. I always use highest quality double pass very slow processing method and shrink to burn onto a 25gb bd disc.

I did a search of the forum here and didn't find any obvious leads or ideas. Can anyone help? Is it possible that one of the associated packages got corrupted somehow?

Thanks in advance!

[MrVideo]

Run the M2TS file through the MediaInfo program that comes with BDRB, in CLI mode, to see if it reports a delay of the audio. I've had issues with it reporting an audio delay with some MKV files.

[musiclover]

Re-installing LAVFilters-0.65 corrected it for me

[sieve]

Re-installing LAVFilters-0.65 corrected it for me

I wish that would have worked. Alas, no.

[sieve]

Run the M2TS file through the MediaInfo program that comes with BDRB, in CLI mode, to see if it reports a delay of the audio. I've had issues with it reporting an audio delay with some MKV files.

This must be operator error, but how do I run it?

I tried running the program directly from the directory, both as admin and not. It brought up a black window, then almost instantly disappeared.

I tried opening the main M2TS file via "open with" mediainfo, and the black window opened, I could see it accumulating many lines of text, but that closed quickly also.

[MrVideo]

Open a Command Prompt window and enter the commands there. I suggest "cd"ing to the location of the M2TS file and then entering the long path to the mediainfo program.

[sieve]

Open a Command Prompt window and enter the commands there. I suggest "cd"ing to the location of the M2TS file and then entering the long path to the mediainfo program.

OK, Thanks! Since I've never run the program, I naively assumed it would be a GUI. I wasn't even thinking that CLI would mean command line interface.

[sieve]

I didn't get around to learning the codes for or running MediaInfo, although I think I might do that sometime.

Anyway, the problem seems to be solved now.

Strangely, it took two tries of uninstalling/reinstalling BDR and all related programs to get things back to normal. I don't know why the first time didn't work but the second did, even though it was the same procedure steps and downloaded items.

Thanks for the assistance!

[ChuckUFarley]

Has anyone found issues with the Quick-Play menus in the most recent build?
I used BD-RB for the first time in a long time last week, and the final disc was unplayable. All the files were right and the new menu appeared to be present, but the disc would start to spin up then freeze my player.

I know that's vague, and I'm going to do more testing, probably rolling back a version, but I was curious if this was something anyone else had come across.
Edit: A clean install of v.0.50.25 seems to have fixed the problem. I'll still have to do a test burn, but things look better.

Now I have another question. In the past I was told if I wanted to build a BD with the movie untouched, but the bonus features compressed to fill whatever extra space was left, use: FORCE_NOENCODE=1 with "Quicker Encode for Extras". That doesn't seems to work. NoEncode seems to override the Quicker Encode.
How should those settings correctly work together?

[MrVideo]

Are you trying to take a BD50 disc and transfer the contents to a BD25 disc and do so without recoding the main feature? The odds are pretty slim that the main feature will even fit a BD25 disc. Even if the main feature did fit, there sure wouldn't be much room left for the special features. I'd hate to see the horrible bitrate required to get anything to fit.

[Lathe]

Has anyone found issues with the Quick-Play menus in the most recent build?
I used BD-RB for the first time in a long time last week, and the final disc was unplayable. All the files were right and the new menu appeared to be present, but the disc would start to spin up then freeze my player.

I know that's vague, and I'm going to do more testing, probably rolling back a version, but I was curious if this was something anyone else had come across.
Edit: A clean install of v.0.50.25 seems to have fixed the problem. I'll still have to do a test burn, but things look better.

Now I have another question. In the past I was told if I wanted to build a BD with the movie untouched, but the bonus features compressed to fill whatever extra space was left, use: FORCE_NOENCODE=1 with "Quicker Encode for Extras". That doesn't seems to work. NoEncode seems to override the Quicker Encode.
How should those settings correctly work together?

Well, it kinda depends on what exactly you are trying to do. For example, what Mr. Video mentions above could be one thing that you could do. Personally, what I do IF the main feature WILL fit easily on a BD25 (which sounds like what you mean, but I'm not totally sure...) I, myself, just put the movie only on a BD25, and if I really want the extras, media is SO affordable these days, I would simply just do another 'encode' with just the menus and Xtras and put it on another disc. That way you have no re-encoding, no wait time, and it's about 50 cents a disc (20 if you can fit the Xtras on a DVD [BD5] :))

However, if you instead wish to put the movie and the Xtras on one disc AND, if I understand you correctly, the movie will fit by itself on a BD25 (with whatever audio trax you want) I'm not quite sure how you JUST compress the Xtras to fit into the remainder on the disc. x264 is so efficient, that unless you have pretty high powered or huge Xtras, you should be able to figure some bitrate out just to do the Xtras and add them to the movie disc. Unless BDRB somehow 'knows' intuitively that if the movie fits uncompressed and you choose 'Fast encode for Xtras' that it just needs to compress the Xtras only. I'm just not quite sure how it works it, sorry...

[ChuckUFarley]

There are many movies on BD50 discs that the movie, stripped of unneeded audio tracks, can fit on a BD25 with a few GB to spare. If there aren't many extras, they can usually be compressed to fit in that remaining space.
In the past I would do this crazy thing where I would create 2 new discs. One stripped, but uncompressed and the second stripped with a custom size matching the remaining space, blanking the movie. I then manually copy the movie into the compressed disc's folders including PLAYLISTs and CLIPINFs. It works well, but takes some juggling.

It's also why the other method someone previously suggested (NO_ENCODE/Quicker Encode for Extras) is a great solution... if it actually worked. It might have in a previous version.

Btw, as an update, the burned QUICKPLAY disc from the fresh install still freezes my Sony BD player. I'll try an older version of BD RB next and a different movie, just to see if there is something hinky with Mummy 3. (Although no errors or problems are shown in the log.)

Edit:
1) v0.50.24 - No luck with Mummy 3/quickplay burned disc again.
2) v0.50.25 - Tested a different BD (Indiscreet) with quickplay. Burned disc plays fine.
3) v0.50.25 - Mummy 3 again, unchecked "Attempt to find original background/menu" options. Burned disc freezes in player.

Zuh? I'm ready to write this off as an unsolvable mystery.

[Blurayhd]

Hi all, I have my Bluray disc that the movie is in 3D and I need to make a backup but in 2D, so I need to know, BD rebuilder can encode the 3D movie to 2d movie? how to do that? Thank you in advance!!!

[Lathe]

Hi all, I have my Bluray disc that the movie is in 3D and I need to make a backup but in 2D, so I need to know, BD rebuilder can encode the 3D movie to 2d movie? how to do that? Thank you in advance!!!

I believe there is a setting in the 'Setup' settings where you check the box for 'Process 3D video to 2D backups' I use that one also...

[Ch3vr0n]

that setting will only convert the 3D movie to 2D. However, what it does NOT fix is the java code on the disc. Most 3D discs's java code still checks for full 3D capable equipment where the disc is inserted (checking for 3D player and 3D capable screen), if that's not found the disc still won't play. Regardless of the fact if the movie has been converted to 2D or not (if your doing 3D BD to 2D BD disc backup)

[jdobbs]

Correct. The only way to reliably do it is to do a movie-only backup or quick-play backup.

[Video Dude]

I believe there is a setting in the 'Setup' settings where you check the box for 'Process 3D video to 2D backups' I use that one also...

Really useful feature. There are some 3D blu-rays that are Open Matte, while the standard Blu-ray version is the cropped 2.35:1. I don't have a 3D TV, but I do want the extra video real estate of the movie.

[Ch3vr0n]

any news on a new release JD? been a while :) 1 more month and it'll be a year since the last release :(

[Blurayhd]

Correct. The only way to reliably do it is to do a movie-only backup or quick-play backup.

Thank all of you for helping me, so, if I encode the backup in only movie or quick play so I´ll can do it without problems

[Lathe]

Thank all of you for helping me, so, if I encode the backup in only movie or quick play so I´ll can do it without problems

Well... it kinda depends on what ELSE you happen to be doing at the time...








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[jdobbs]

any news on a new release JD? been a while :) 1 more month and it'll be a year since the last release :(Yeah... the failure of reliable UHD backups has held it back. After a while I just threw up my hands and said "I'm tired of this". Frankly I think the problem is in X265, or at least my inability to find a set of X265 settings that work. I can do a no-reencode backup that muxes and plays fine on my Sony... but any time I reencode, there is a problem. If I find a setting that fixes that problem -- an new one results.

I may just release it and say "UHD at your own risk".

[MrVideo]

However, what it does NOT fix is the java code on the disc. Most 3D discs's java code still checks for full 3D capable equipment where the disc is inserted (checking for 3D player and 3D capable screen), if that's not found the disc still won't play.
So, put the original into your system and see if it will play, or if you get the warning that you do not have a 3D system.

[Ch3vr0n]

Why are you quoting me, i'm not the one asking the question. For the record my PC is fully 3D capable (screen, and optical drive or the standalone hooked up to the screen).

[Ch3vr0n]

Yeah... the failure of reliable UHD backups has held it back. After a while I just threw up my hands and said "I'm tired of this". Frankly I think the problem is in X265, or at least my inability to find a set of X265 settings that work. I can do a no-reencode backup that muxes and plays fine on my Sony... but any time I reencode, there is a problem. If I find a setting that fixes that problem -- an new one results.

I may just release it and say "UHD at your own risk".

I'm not in it for the UHD, i'm in it for that switch you'd ask with the SEI data fix or something to potentially fix the 3D artifact glitching in software players for 3D disc backups made by BDRB

[MrVideo]

Why are you quoting me, i'm not the one asking the question. For the record my PC is fully 3D capable (screen, and optical drive or the standalone hooked up to the screen).
I quoted you because you are the one that posted it. I'm just adding that if the disc is attempted to be played, it either will or it won't. One way to find out which way BDRB should be used.

[Dominux]

...no-reencode backup that muxes and plays fine on my Sony...
@jdobbs can you public this vesion, only for no-reencode backup?

[AmigaFuture]

----------------------
[20:39:24] Importing: BOOK_CLUB_FILES
- [20:39:27] Importing video file: (1 of 6)
- Preparing MKV for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [21:10:16] Importing video file: (2 of 6)
- Preparing MKV for processing...

Run-time error '70': Permission Denied.

I have been importing the MKV files I made and moved to a different drive/partition. After selecting the MKV files MADE with BD-RB, it imports fine until here.. Other times it imports all 6, and then wants to rerender a BD-50. I just started checking this. But it's not new to get this error with other stuff. Usually I exit BD-RB, delete Temp, Import and WORK...and all goes well from there.

118GB free (not GiB--I'm poking a lot of fun at the goofy GiB thing) free...so, plenty to work with.

Any ideas for the error?

[jdobbs]

That's just about it. It means that either you don't have privileges to the file, or (more commonly) it is locked and being used. Check and see if there is a file called MEDIAINFO.TXT in the TEMP folder and whether it has information in it.

It could (possibly) be a race error. Try setting IMPORT_PREPARE_MKV=0 in the INI file and see if that has an effect. MKV files don't necessarily have to be "prepared", but I added it because I ran into a lot of MKV files that were incorrectly muxed.

[AmigaFuture]

Doh, I forgot about IMPORT_PREPARE_MKV=0. :eek: Using now... I remember you discussing that "a long time ago" and others crossing paths with MKV's like that.

Extras passed..now I'll redo with movie with them. If it happens again I'll post the contents of that file. I'll mark that setting as very important, haha!

"Locked or Denied, shhaaaa, not even!" :D

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs can you public this vesion, only for no-reencode backup?Give me a day or two to try a couple things related to UHD. Then I'll post a new version as-is so people can use some of the change requests I've made.

[Atak_Snajpera]

118GB free (not GiB--I'm poking a lot of fun at the goofy GiB thing) free...so, plenty to work with.
It is standardized binary unit. I see nothing goofy in that. GB treated in M$ way is goofy and 100% illogical because:

1kg = 1000 grams
1kW = 1000 Watts
1km = 1000 meters
1kHz = 1000 hertz
1kb = 1000 bits
1kB = 1024 bytes (WTF!?!)

kilo in metric system stands for 1000 not 1024!
You must be one of those people thinking that only scientist use metric system...

[meadrocks]

Give me a day or two to try a couple things related to UHD. Then I'll post a new version as-is so people can use some of the change requests I've made.

I'll be anxious to try out a new version of x265.

[Ch3vr0n]

@Atak_Snajpera

Wrong. You're 2nd to last line (1kb = 1000 bits) doesn't exist at least not in the PC world. 8 bits = 1 byte. 16 bits = 2 bytes... (notice how the value doubles) each time, thats because in the pc world software works by multiples of 2, ascending. 1000 doesn't fit in that line

2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512=>1024<==

Perfectly normal, it's the same reason why you "lose" space after formatting, (you don't really loose it as it was never there to begin with). Disc / drive manufacturers work by the thousand, yes, but that's not a valid value at the OS level (see line above). Manufacturers calculate per thousands, yes, the OS doesn't (it calculates by 1024). 1 GiGaBytes = 1.000.000.000 bytes, the OS works in GiBiBytes, 1 GiB = 1.07374182 or 0.931322575 gibibytes. Which is why a 1 TeraByte calculates to approx 931 GibiBytes after formatting

[Atak_Snajpera]

You're 2nd to last line (1kb = 1000 bits) doesn't exist at least not in the PC world.
Ask your internet provider how it calculates Mb/s (mega bits per second). Mine limits my download speed to 16Mbps (16 000 000 bits/s=2 000 000 bytes/s=1.9 MiB/s). My network meter confirms that.
I see the same trend in audio codecs where for example 384kbps means 384000 bits instead of 393216 bits.
Use ffmpeg and you will see what I mean.

Binary units exist for a reason and people should finally start using them.
1 KiB = 1024 bytes
1 Kib = 1024 bits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilo-
For the kilobyte, a second definition has been in common use in some fields of computer science and information technology. It uses kilobyte to mean 210 bytes (= 1024 bytes), because of the mathematical coincidence that 210 is approximately 103. The reason for this application is that digital hardware and architectures natively use base 2 exponentiation, and not decimal systems. JEDEC memory standards still permit this definition, but acknowledge the correct SI usage.

NIST comments on the confusion caused by these contrasting definitions: "Faced with this reality, the IEEE Standards Board decided that IEEE standards will use the conventional, internationally adopted, definitions of the SI prefixes", instead of kilo for 1024.[3] To address this conflict, a new set of binary prefixes has been introduced, which is based on powers of 2. Therefore, 1024 bytes are defined as one kibibyte (1 KiB).

[AmigaFuture]

Update: BR-RB has imported 2 extras fine now, including the one in the log, and the movie. I'm now getting the menu settings set as I want. I didn't make a note of them before. Appreciate the minder, Dobbs.

Another note though, for fun, I attempted the process the outcome like a normal BD, and removed 1 extra...and with the BD-50 set, as well as DO NOT ENCODE forced, I clicked backup (Full) and BD is rerendering everything. Hmmm.. I thought that to be odd since it's 47GB. Had I set BD-25 I would expect that.

[AmigaFuture]

It is standardized binary unit. I see nothing goofy in that. GB treated in M$ way is goofy and 100% illogical because:

1kg = 1000 grams
1kW = 1000 Watts
1km = 1000 meters
1kHz = 1000 hertz
1kb = 1000 bits
1kB = 1024 bytes (WTF!?!)

kilo in metric system stands for 1000 not 1024!
You must be one of those people thinking that only scientist use metric system...

It was GB way before the GiB thing. I personally don't use the ISP way of counting, everything I use shows as MB/s. GB has been in use for more than 50 years. I agree totally with Ch3vr0n about "'lose' space after formatting".

Science is okay, but has much as it claims to be so awesome, it's also not a Religion I'll join 100%. Hehe. Science is cool, but it still does more guessing than I care for. When I was small, I knew there was a planet that was destroyed in our Solar System. But when I talked to "Science" people about it all I would get back is "that hasn't been confirmed, we don't have 'proof'.". After a bit "Whatever, facts and evidence aren't everything." was my thought. Still is. I'll leave it at that for now.

[jdobbs]

It is standardized binary unit. I see nothing goofy in that. GB treated in M$ way is goofy and 100% illogical because:

1kg = 1000 grams
1kW = 1000 Watts
1km = 1000 meters
1kHz = 1000 hertz
1kb = 1000 bits
1kB = 1024 bytes (WTF!?!)

kilo in metric system stands for 1000 not 1024!
You must be one of those people thinking that only scientist use metric system...It's not M$... it's the way it is treated in all matters related to computer science. Memory, for example: 1024 bytes=1KB, etc. that's because computers use binary numbers not decimal (they don't use fingers to count things like humans) and 1024 is an even binary number: 10000000000. I went to college before Microsoft existed... and it has always been 1024 in the computer world.

[Edit] Lot's of comments I guess I should have read before answering.

[jdobbs]

@AmigaFuture

I certainly can't agree with you there. Science and Math are the language of the universe -- and the universe really doesn't care about any of our opinions. Science never "guesses". If it is a guess... it isn't science. It only becomes science when it has been tested and proven.

[Lathe]

It's not M$... it's the way it is treated in all matters related to computer science. Memory, for example: 1024 bytes=1KB, etc. that's because computers use binary numbers not decimal (they don't use fingers to count things like humans) and 1024 is an even binary number: 10000000000. I went to college before Microsoft existed... and it has always been 1024 in the computer world.

[Edit] Lot's of comments I guess I should have read before answering.

Wow! They had colleges back then...?

[Lathe]

@AmigaFuture

I certainly can't agree with you there. Science and Math are the language of the universe -- and the universe really doesn't care about any of our opinions. Science never "guesses". If it is a guess... it isn't science. It only becomes science when it has been tested and proven.

Yeah, but don't forget... AF thinks he's gonna come back as a weasel...

[AmigaFuture]

@AmigaFuture

I certainly can't agree with you there. Science and Math are the language of the universe -- and the universe really doesn't care about any of our opinions. Science never "guesses". If it is a guess... it isn't science. It only becomes science when it has been tested and proven.

That's why I didn't go any further...in that post. I DO like science, and I wanted to clarify that later. Like now. :) Math is the language of multiple Cosmos. With that there is 0 doubt here. Ehhhh...to some degree I will agree that the Cosmos doesn't care about our opinions - but it is constantly communicating to everything. The Cosmos is very much black and white in what it does, but the way (many) people think, is a bit grey.

People who don't know the name Science, is their adventuring Scientific? Science is only a definition. Or personal exploration to discover/create more? Science has discovered Reincarnation if a fact. Something I already knew, but.. Anyway, it's a deep and fun subject for sure. I don't require science for answers; but sometimes the validation is fun. :)

[AmigaFuture]

Yeah, but don't forget... AF thinks he's gonna come back as a weasel...

Yeah, I already nailed being a jackass....(in some opinions...heehaw, heehaw!).

[AmigaFuture]

It's not M$... it's the way it is treated in all matters related to computer science. Memory, for example: 1024 bytes=1KB, etc. that's because computers use binary numbers not decimal (they don't use fingers to count things like humans) and 1024 is an even binary number: 10000000000. I went to college before Microsoft existed... and it has always been 1024 in the computer world.

Math is not even close to my best subject, BUT...this reply is what learned a long time ago also. It makes very good logical sense, .........still.

I wonder if the "new math" is where the GiG and MiB thing is coming from? Hmm... Lots of people where I live are having a very difficult time getting it accepted. I haven't checked into it, so I'm guessing.

[Lathe]

yeah, i already nailed being a jackass....(in some opinions...heehaw, heehaw!).

. :)

[MrVideo]

Run-time error '70': Permission Denied.
I've run into this error and have reported it. I already have IMPORT_PREPARE_MKV=0 set. It doesn't happen often, but it happened yesterday. All I did was restart the project and all was well. Win7 just seems to love screwing with me.

[AmigaFuture]

. :)

Not...because nothing ever ends. Except a sentence. Neener, neener! Disappointed, I was expecting a graphic of some kind.

[AmigaFuture]

I've run into this error and have reported it. I already have IMPORT_PREPARE_MKV=0 set. It doesn't happen often, but it happened yesterday. All I did was restart the project and all was well. Win7 just seems to love screwing with me.

Did it hurt when you ran into it?

I've reported before also. Sometimes a restart of a project clears it here also. So, Windows 7 has feelings and is aiming it's A.I. at you to get some kind of ....."screw with you judgement" on you? Hmm..and here I thought only people do that. :p Well, okay, some people also point the Sky for that kind of "Heey, man, why me??" which is extremely silly to me. As JD has so eloquently typed before, "People often shoot themselves in the foot." but that's not verbatim. My thinkth I'll be correcth soonth...hehe.

[Lathe]

Not...because nothing ever ends. Except a sentence. Neener, neener! Disappointed, I was expecting a graphic of some kind.

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[Atak_Snajpera]

Math is not even close to my best subject, BUT...this reply is what learned a long time ago also. It makes very good logical sense, .........still.

I wonder if the "new math" is where the GiG and MiB thing is coming from? Hmm... Lots of people where I live are having a very difficult time getting it accepted. I haven't checked into it, so I'm guessing.

A lot of people in USA have even problems to accept ultra logical and easy to use metric system so I'm not surprised that you refuse to acknowledge that 1KiB = 1024 and 1kB = 1000. I guess that some people just like to live in that schizophrenic state where kilo means 1000 and 1024 at the same time. In metric world this is just plain stupid.

Metric system vs imperial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpwa0je6_Y

I went to college before Microsoft existed... and it has always been 1024 in the computer world.
Linux has no problem with showing correct binary units like GiB. So yes! The problem is in old farts in M$ refusing to add one letter "i".
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKxmB2yP/Untitled-1.png

[jdobbs]

Wow! They had colleges back then...?They even had computers... but, of course, we had to shovel coal into them to keep the steam pressure up.

[jdobbs]

A lot of people in USA have even problems to accept ultra logical and easy to use metric system so I'm not surprised that you refuse to acknowledge that 1KiB = 1024 and 1kB = 1000. I guess that some people just like to live in that schizophrenic state where kilo means 1000 and 1024 at the same time. In metric world this is just plain stupid.

Metric system vs imperial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUpwa0je6_Y


Linux has no problem with showing correct binary units like GiB. So yes! The problem is in old farts in M$ refusing to add one letter "i".It has nothing to do with acceptance. It has to do with fact. Computers are binary whether you like it or not — including those running Linux. What you call it doesn’t matter... but there isn’t a computer on the planet that has 1000 bytes of memory, or 1,000,000 bytes of memory. The address bus is binary so the memory falls on even binary boundaries. Making a decision to “round” to an even decimal number doesn’t change that fact. It just results in inaccuracy and confusion.

Just because humans have 10 fingers doesn’t mean the universe has to bend to our will and make everything conform to our wishes.

But, the bottom line is that this is all semantics. Call it whatever floats your boat, but even decimal numbers have no place in defining boundaries in computer science. If you want to use GiB... fine. But that just makes GB a useless term, and starts the discussion as to why adding an “i” somehow solved something. The real argument is whether “kilo”, “mega”, or “giga” should even be used in a binary context, but it’s too late for that.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post in this thread with a link to the lastest release of BD Rebuilder (v0.60.01). Changes for this release:- Added experimental support for UHD-BD.
- Added FFMPEG to the package to facilitate
10 bit frame serving for UHD encoding.
- Added a new hidden option UHD_LIMIT_ENCODE
which limits encodes to 10 mins for each
M2TS. Meant for testing a backup before
starting actual extended UHD-BD encoding.
- Added video file support when selecting a
background image for menus. Now you can
choose an MKV, MP4, or M2TS to provide a
full motion video for the background.
- Corrected an error in which subtitles that
have been imported in SRT format and then
output to SRT, where there were multiple
subtitles, were not included correctly in
ALTERNATE output.
- Added a new hidden option SPECIAL_3D_MUX.
If set to 1 the TSMUXER parameters for
"insertSEI" and "contSPS" are excluded
from the video command line in the meta
file. Some have reported that this fixes
pixelation that has been experienced.
- Added an adjustment for audio overhead when
muxing mono or stereo AC3 encodes (there
is a more significant overhead in the M2TS
muxtiplexing by TSMUXER for some reason).
This prevents occasional oversizing on
these types of sources.
- Added a check to correct a TSMUXER error in
which is misinterprets stereo AAC audio as
mono.
- Fixed errors related to creating extremely
large batch queues.
- Fixed an error in ALTERNATE processing in
which keeping intact audio from an imported
AAC source would cause "ERROR in attempt to
mux (MKVMERGE)".
- Corrected a problem in which IVTC while
using DirectshowSource() could cutoff the
video before the end of the stream.
- Updated the ALTERNATE selection dialog so
that bitrates can be changed for individual
presets.
- Increased the maximum number of files that
can be imported simultaneously.
- Added a 1 second delay after preparing a
file during import. This is an attempt to
correct what might be a "race" issue that
has been reported but I couldn't repeat.
- Updated the included version of MEDIAINFO
to version 17.12 in order to support
reporting of HDR parameters.
- Updated the included version of X265-64.EXE
to v2.8.68 10 bit version.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes. Please note that the UHD support is not finalized. I've posted it so beta testers can run it, comment, and (hopefully) provide information that will make it work better.

[musiclover]

@jdobbs
Thanks for the new version. It is a pity that the bug with making a dvd from a 50 fps source has not yet been solved. I hope that is still on your to-do-list and will be addressed in the next version.

see #27362 #27377 #27378 #27381 #27383 #27384 #27385 in this thread.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Thanks for the new version. It is a pity that the bug with making a dvd from a 50 fps source has not yet been solved. I hope that is still on your to-do-list and will be addressed in the next version.

see #27362 #27377 #27378 #27381 #27383 #27384 #27385 in this thread.Have you tried it? I remember looking at it, but it's been a long time. I obviously didn't document the fix if I did.

[musiclover]

Have you tried it? I remember looking at it, but it's been a long time. I obviously didn't document the fix if I did.

I have tried it and the bug is still there.

[jdobbs]

I have tried it and the bug is still there.Ok. I noticed another bug that apparently was a result of a last minute compile... so I'll see if I can fix your issue and post another version.

[Ch3vr0n]

- Added a new hidden option SPECIAL_3D_MUX. If set to 1 the TSMUXER parameters for "insertSEI" and "contSPS" are excluded from the video command line in the meta file. Some have reported that this fixes pixelation that has been experienced.

YAY, will definitely test that one as soon as you publish that updated build

[Blurayhd]

Hi all first thank you Jdobbs for last release, and I need to ask somebody could recommend some Bluray/MKV player for image capturing and testing? I mean, I have some backups encode with Bd Rebuilder but I need to compare the movies so I need some player that can let me navegate frame by frame and get the screenshot, I´ll really aprecciate it, thank you in advance

[varekai]

Hi all first thank you Jdobbs for last release, and I need to ask somebody could recommend some Bluray/MKV player for image capturing and testing? I mean, I have some backups encode with Bd Rebuilder but I need to compare the movies so I need some player that can let me navegate frame by frame and get the screenshot, I´ll really aprecciate it, thank you in advance
PotPlayer amd MPC-HC is my choice:

https://potplayer.daum.net/

https://www.videohelp.com/software/Media-Player-Classic-Home-Cinema

They cannot play BDMV folders (no menus) so you'll have to pick the right .mpls to play.

[dracore]

thank you for adding UHD support - alot of testing will be done :) - donation will be sent in the week

[Blurayhd]

PotPlayer amd MPC-HC is my choice:

https://potplayer.daum.net/

https://www.videohelp.com/software/Media-Player-Classic-Home-Cinema

They cannot play BDMV folders (no menus) so you'll have to pick the right .mpls to play.

Thank you for helping me, I just tried both but I cant find the screenshot capture option

[musiclover]

Ok. I noticed another bug that apparently was a result of a last minute compile... so I'll see if I can fix your issue and post another version.

GREAT !!! I'm looking forward to it.

[varekai]

Thank you for helping me, I just tried both but I cant find the screenshot capture option
Google is your best friend! :rolleyes:

screenshot+capture+option+mpc-hc

screenshot+capture+option+potplayer

https://aboutdevice.com/how-to-take-snapshot-screenshot-with-potplayer/

https://aboutdevice.com/take-snapshot-screenshot-with-mpc-hc/

[Blurayhd]

Google is your best friend! :rolleyes:

screenshot+capture+option+mpc-hc

screenshot+capture+option+potplayer

https://aboutdevice.com/how-to-take-snapshot-screenshot-with-potplayer/

https://aboutdevice.com/take-snapshot-screenshot-with-mpc-hc/

I got it and thank you buddy

[MrVideo]

- Added video file support when selecting a
background image for menus. Now you can
choose an MKV, MP4, or M2TS to provide a
full motion video for the background.
1) How to tell BDRB to use the audio contained with the video?
2) How to tell BDRB to display the menu text at the end of the video?
Take a look at this motion video (http://vidiot.com/video/Castle-HD-1080-logo-S1-D1-bkg.mkv). As can be seen, displaying the menu text when the video starts to play is not good. This is the type of video where the menu text needs to be displayed at the end. Maybe a hidden option: DISPLAY_MOTION_TEXT=0 where 0 means at the start and 1 means at the end.

Before anyone asks, the three seconds of black at the start is to allow the audio amp to detect the type of audio stream.

[jdobbs]

1) How to tell BDRB to use the audio contained with the video?
2) How to tell BDRB to display the menu text at the end of the video?
Take a look at this motion video (http://vidiot.com/video/Castle-HD-1080-logo-S1-D1-bkg.mkv). As can be seen, displaying the menu text when the video starts to play is not good. This is the type of video where the menu text needs to be displayed at the end. Maybe a hidden option: DISPLAY_MOTION_TEXT=0 where 0 means at the start and 1 means at the end.

Before anyone asks, the three seconds of black at the start is to allow the audio amp to detect the type of audio stream.1. Audio still has to be added separately
2. No way to do that right now. I had just planned to provide motion video as the background. That’d be outside the scope of what I intended for it.

[MrVideo]

1. Audio still has to be added separately
That I can easily work around.
2. No way to do that right now. I had just planned to provide motion video as the background. That’d be outside the scope of what I intended for it.
This I can't work around. How about a first video thing? That is where a video is played before the menu? Not sure what it is called with BD authoring. With DVDs, IIRC, it was called the first play.

[jdobbs]

Just a note: I think I'm close on the UHD-BD reencodes. I found some interesting information that has (at least on one title) gotten rid of the issues I was having. I think its a combination X265/TSMUXER thing. More to come.

By the way... if anyone has any information they've gathered on the UHD-BD standard they can share (extensions etc. for HEVC and UHD), it would sure help me out.

[jdobbs]

That I can easily work around.

This I can't work around. How about a first video thing? That is where a video is played before the menu? Not sure what it is called with BD authoring. With DVDs, IIRC, it was called the first play.I'll see what I can do... but no promises.

[MrVideo]

I'll see what I can do... but no promises.
Thanks. I'll keep this project on hold for the time being.

[AmigaFuture]

Google is your best friend! :rolleyes:

screenshot+capture+option+mpc-hc

screenshot+capture+option+potplayer

https://aboutdevice.com/how-to-take-snapshot-screenshot-with-potplayer/

https://aboutdevice.com/take-snapshot-screenshot-with-mpc-hc/

Google is NOT your Friend, they track everything you do. Even when Preferences are set to NOT watch. Use DuckDuckGo.com.

For MPC-HC which is also not getting enough donations..but an excellent program - Start the video, Pause it (click once in screen), Right Click anywhere, and from Menu at the TOP hover over Fire and then Save Image. There it is...

[varekai]

Google is NOT your Friend, they track everything you do. Even when Preferences are set to NOT watch.
https://i.imgur.com/AEilauU.jpg

[FreaQ]

After a long time I tried to use BD-RB today again.
I just wanted to blank some annoying warnings and keep the rest as is.
Even though the option FORCE_NOENCODE=1 is set, BD-RB reencodes the video.
So I tried a dryrun with all extras, movie and warnings enabled. I also set the target size to 55000 MB. At first it was promising, the short warnings were not reencoded. But as soon as the movie kicked in BD-RB startet reencodeing. I aborted the process.
I am not sure if I am missing something. The BD has multiangle (3 angles).



----------------------
[09.25.18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[14:39:38] Source:
- Input BD size: 40,89 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:31:47.906]
- Target BD size: 53,71 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:39:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:38] Processing: VID_00006 (1 of 99)
- [14:39:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [14:39:42] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- [14:39:42] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:39:43] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:39:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:39:46] Processing: VID_00100 (2 of 99)
- [14:39:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [14:39:50] Reencoding video [VID_00100]
- [14:39:50] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:39:50] Processing audio tracks
- [14:39:50] Multiplexing M2TS
.
.
.
- [14:50:26] Processing: VID_00339 (89 of 99)
- [14:50:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00339]
- [14:50:29] Reencoding video [VID_00339]
- [14:50:29] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:29] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:33] Processing: VID_00340 (90 of 99)
- [14:50:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00340]
- [14:50:37] Reencoding video [VID_00340]
- [14:50:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:37] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:40] Processing: VID_00341 (91 of 99)
- [14:50:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00341]
- [14:50:44] Reencoding video [VID_00341]
- [14:50:44] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:44] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:48] Processing: VID_00810 (92 of 99)
- [14:50:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00810]
- [14:50:53] Reencoding video [VID_00810]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.214 frames
- Bitrate: 28.750 Kbs
- [14:50:53] Reencoding: VID_00810, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:51:11] Reencoding: VID_00810, Pass 2 of 2
[14:51:16]PHASE ONE aborted by user request



[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.24
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=55000
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
DTSX_ENABLE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=10
TARGET_SIZE=55000
FORCE_NOENCODE=1
ENCODER=0
IGNORE_3D=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=2
FRIMSOURCE=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
PGSTOSRT=0

[Ch3vr0n]

And now post the full log unedited. The source volume name is missing among other things

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6P met Tapatalk

[zamengo]

bdrb 0.60.01, a lot of glitchs with Avengers Infinity War UHD.

I try to make BD-50.

[Ch3vr0n]

bdrb 0.60.01, a lot of glitchs with Avengers Infinity War UHD.

I try to make BD-50.No log, no help.

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[AmigaFuture]

Paranoid isn't really my thing. Nor is having advertising and other tracking happening because of their Email and Chrome. Conspiracy stuff isn't my bag either. :)

Many people use the quickest and most common methods to many things - unaware of what's happening in the background. :)


Anyway, JD...

Update to Role Models extra (Deleted Scenes)...

I did a little skimming with the extras...and the "work-around", of making a BD out of the extras didn't go as well as I thought. So I ripped it again, same error... This is using the default config with the new release.

[09/25/18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.01
[14:48:42] Source: ROLE_MODELS_00100
- Input BD size: 5.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:49:49.819]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:48:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:48:45] Processing: VID_00361 (1 of 81)
- [14:48:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00361]
- [14:49:14] Reencoding video [VID_00361]
- [14:49:14] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:14] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:49:15] Processing: VID_00362 (2 of 81)
[...]
- [14:54:53] Processing: VID_00442 (81 of 81)
- [14:54:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00442]
- [14:54:57] Reencoding video [VID_00442]
- [14:54:57] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[14:54:57]PHASE ONE complete
[14:54:57]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:54:57] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 0
[14:56:02] - Failed to REBUILD


I've used AnyDVD and MakeMKV to rip..multiple times. Do you have the movie or want a short clip? When I use MakeMKV to make the those extras as 1 MKV it all plays fine...no sync errors. BD-RB also imports the MKV ok. But when making the MKV again, also, it does this also. Doesn't appear to be a ripping problem.

[SquallMX]

Batman Begins UHD Backup (BD25) played without issues on a cheapo LG UP870.

[FreaQ]

And now post the full log unedited. The source volume name is missing among other things

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6P met Tapatalk

First of all, I think your answer is rude.
Secondly, the log is too long so I cut some stuff which seemed unnecessary.
And last but not least I was not sure if it is allowed to post the Volumename.

----------------------
[09.25.18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[14:39:38] Source: SOLO_A_STAR_WARS_STORY
- Input BD size: 40,89 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:31:47.906]
- Target BD size: 53,71 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:39:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:38] Processing: VID_00006 (1 of 99)
- [14:39:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [14:39:42] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- [14:39:42] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:39:43] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:39:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:39:46] Processing: VID_00100 (2 of 99)
- [14:39:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [14:39:50] Reencoding video [VID_00100]
- [14:39:50] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:39:50] Processing audio tracks
- [14:39:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:39:53] Processing: VID_00101 (3 of 99)
- [14:39:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [14:39:57] Reencoding video [VID_00101]
- [14:39:57] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:39:57] Processing audio tracks
- [14:39:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:40:01] Processing: VID_00102 (4 of 99)
- [14:40:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00102]
- [14:40:04] Reencoding video [VID_00102]
- [14:40:04] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:40:04] Processing audio tracks
- [14:40:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:40:08] Processing: VID_00103 (5 of 99)
- [14:40:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
- [14:40:12] Reencoding video [VID_00103]
- [14:40:12] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:40:12] Processing audio tracks
- [14:40:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:40:15] Processing: VID_00104 (6 of 99)
- [14:40:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [14:40:19] Reencoding video [VID_00104]
- [14:40:19] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:40:19] Processing audio tracks
- [14:40:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:40:23] Processing: VID_00105 (7 of 99)
- [14:40:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
- [14:40:26] Reencoding video [VID_00105]
- [14:40:26] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:40:26] Processing audio tracks
- [14:40:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:40:30] Processing: VID_00106 (8 of 99)
- [14:40:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- [14:40:34] Reencoding video [VID_00106]
- [14:40:34] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:40:34] Processing audio tracks
- [14:40:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:40:37] Processing: VID_00107 (9 of 99)
- [14:40:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00107]
- [14:40:41] Reencoding video [VID_00107]
- [14:40:41] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:40:41] Processing audio tracks
- [14:40:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:40:45] Processing: VID_00108 (10 of 99)
- [14:40:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- [14:40:49] Reencoding video [VID_00108]
- [14:40:49] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:40:49] Processing audio tracks
- [14:40:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:40:52] Processing: VID_00109 (11 of 99)
- [14:40:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00109]
- [14:40:56] Reencoding video [VID_00109]
- [14:40:56] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:40:56] Processing audio tracks
- [14:40:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:00] Processing: VID_00110 (12 of 99)
- [14:41:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00110]
- [14:41:03] Reencoding video [VID_00110]
- [14:41:03] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:41:03] Processing audio tracks
- [14:41:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:07] Processing: VID_00111 (13 of 99)
- [14:41:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00111]
- [14:41:11] Reencoding video [VID_00111]
- [14:41:11] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:41:11] Processing audio tracks
- [14:41:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:15] Processing: VID_00112 (14 of 99)
- [14:41:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00112]
- [14:41:19] Reencoding video [VID_00112]
- [14:41:19] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:41:19] Processing audio tracks
- [14:41:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:22] Processing: VID_00113 (15 of 99)
- [14:41:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00113]
- [14:41:26] Reencoding video [VID_00113]
- [14:41:26] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:41:26] Processing audio tracks
- [14:41:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:29] Processing: VID_00114 (16 of 99)
- [14:41:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00114]
- [14:41:33] Reencoding video [VID_00114]
- [14:41:33] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:41:33] Processing audio tracks
- [14:41:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:37] Processing: VID_00115 (17 of 99)
- [14:41:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00115]
- [14:41:41] Reencoding video [VID_00115]
- [14:41:41] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:41:41] Processing audio tracks
- [14:41:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:44] Processing: VID_00116 (18 of 99)
- [14:41:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00116]
- [14:41:48] Reencoding video [VID_00116]
- [14:41:48] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:41:48] Processing audio tracks
- [14:41:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:52] Processing: VID_00117 (19 of 99)
- [14:41:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00117]
- [14:41:55] Reencoding video [VID_00117]
- [14:41:55] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:41:55] Processing audio tracks
- [14:41:55] Multiplexing M2TS

[FreaQ]

- [14:41:59] Processing: VID_00118 (20 of 99)
- [14:41:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00118]
- [14:42:03] Reencoding video [VID_00118]
- [14:42:03] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:42:03] Processing audio tracks
- [14:42:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:42:06] Processing: VID_00119 (21 of 99)
- [14:42:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00119]
- [14:42:10] Reencoding video [VID_00119]
- [14:42:10] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:42:10] Processing audio tracks
- [14:42:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:42:14] Processing: VID_00120 (22 of 99)
- [14:42:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00120]
- [14:42:17] Reencoding video [VID_00120]
- [14:42:17] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:42:17] Processing audio tracks
- [14:42:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:42:21] Processing: VID_00121 (23 of 99)
- [14:42:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00121]
- [14:42:25] Reencoding video [VID_00121]
- [14:42:25] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:42:25] Processing audio tracks
- [14:42:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:42:28] Processing: VID_00122 (24 of 99)
- [14:42:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00122]
- [14:42:32] Reencoding video [VID_00122]
- [14:42:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:42:32] Processing audio tracks
- [14:42:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:42:36] Processing: VID_00123 (25 of 99)
- [14:42:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [14:42:39] Reencoding video [VID_00123]
- [14:42:39] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:42:39] Processing audio tracks
- [14:42:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:42:43] Processing: VID_00124 (26 of 99)
- [14:42:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00124]
- [14:42:47] Reencoding video [VID_00124]
- [14:42:47] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:42:47] Processing audio tracks
- [14:42:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:42:50] Processing: VID_00125 (27 of 99)
- [14:42:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00125]
- [14:42:54] Reencoding video [VID_00125]
- [14:42:54] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:42:54] Processing audio tracks
- [14:42:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:42:58] Processing: VID_00126 (28 of 99)
- [14:42:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00126]
- [14:43:01] Reencoding video [VID_00126]
- [14:43:01] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:43:01] Processing audio tracks
- [14:43:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:43:05] Processing: VID_00127 (29 of 99)
- [14:43:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00127]
- [14:43:09] Reencoding video [VID_00127]
- [14:43:09] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:43:09] Processing audio tracks
- [14:43:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:43:12] Processing: VID_00128 (30 of 99)
- [14:43:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00128]
- [14:43:16] Reencoding video [VID_00128]
- [14:43:16] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:43:16] Processing audio tracks
- [14:43:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:43:20] Processing: VID_00129 (31 of 99)
- [14:43:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00129]
- [14:43:24] Reencoding video [VID_00129]
- [14:43:24] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:43:24] Processing audio tracks
- [14:43:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:43:27] Processing: VID_00130 (32 of 99)
- [14:43:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
- [14:43:31] Reencoding video [VID_00130]
- [14:43:31] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:43:31] Processing audio tracks
- [14:43:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:43:34] Processing: VID_00131 (33 of 99)
- [14:43:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00131]
- [14:43:38] Reencoding video [VID_00131]
- [14:43:38] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:43:38] Processing audio tracks
- [14:43:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:43:42] Processing: VID_00132 (34 of 99)
- [14:43:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00132]
- [14:43:46] Reencoding video [VID_00132]
- [14:43:46] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:43:46] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:43:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:43:49] Processing: VID_00133 (35 of 99)
- [14:43:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00133]
- [14:43:53] Reencoding video [VID_00133]
- [14:43:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:43:53] Processing audio tracks
- [14:43:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:43:56] Processing: VID_00134 (36 of 99)
- [14:43:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00134]
- [14:44:00] Reencoding video [VID_00134]
- [14:44:00] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:44:00] Processing audio tracks
- [14:44:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:04] Processing: VID_00135 (37 of 99)
- [14:44:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00135]
- [14:44:08] Reencoding video [VID_00135]
- [14:44:08] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:44:08] Processing audio tracks
- [14:44:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:11] Processing: VID_00136 (38 of 99)
- [14:44:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00136]
- [14:44:15] Reencoding video [VID_00136]
- [14:44:15] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:44:15] Processing audio tracks
- [14:44:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:19] Processing: VID_00137 (39 of 99)
- [14:44:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00137]
- [14:44:22] Reencoding video [VID_00137]
- [14:44:22] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:44:22] Processing audio tracks
- [14:44:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:26] Processing: VID_00138 (40 of 99)
- [14:44:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00138]
- [14:44:30] Reencoding video [VID_00138]
- [14:44:30] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:44:30] Processing audio tracks
- [14:44:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:33] Processing: VID_00139 (41 of 99)
- [14:44:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00139]
- [14:44:37] Reencoding video [VID_00139]
- [14:44:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:44:37] Processing audio tracks
- [14:44:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:41] Processing: VID_00140 (42 of 99)
- [14:44:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00140]
- [14:44:44] Reencoding video [VID_00140]
- [14:44:44] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:44:44] Processing audio tracks
- [14:44:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:48] Processing: VID_00141 (43 of 99)
- [14:44:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00141]
- [14:44:52] Reencoding video [VID_00141]
- [14:44:52] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:44:52] Processing audio tracks
- [14:44:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:55] Processing: VID_00142 (44 of 99)
- [14:44:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00142]
- [14:44:59] Reencoding video [VID_00142]
- [14:44:59] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:44:59] Processing audio tracks
- [14:44:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:45:03] Processing: VID_00143 (45 of 99)
- [14:45:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00143]
- [14:45:06] Reencoding video [VID_00143]
- [14:45:06] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:45:06] Processing audio tracks
- [14:45:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:45:10] Processing: VID_00144 (46 of 99)
- [14:45:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00144]
- [14:45:14] Reencoding video [VID_00144]
- [14:45:14] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:45:14] Processing audio tracks
- [14:45:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:45:17] Processing: VID_00145 (47 of 99)
- [14:45:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00145]
- [14:45:21] Reencoding video [VID_00145]
- [14:45:21] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:45:21] Processing audio tracks
- [14:45:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:45:25] Processing: VID_00146 (48 of 99)
- [14:45:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00146]
- [14:45:28] Reencoding video [VID_00146]
- [14:45:28] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:45:28] Processing audio tracks
- [14:45:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:45:32] Processing: VID_00147 (49 of 99)
- [14:45:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00147]
- [14:45:36] Reencoding video [VID_00147]
- [14:45:36] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:45:36] Processing audio tracks
- [14:45:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:45:39] Processing: VID_00300 (50 of 99)
- [14:45:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00300]
- [14:45:43] Reencoding video [VID_00300]
- [14:45:43] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:45:43] Processing audio tracks
- [14:45:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:45:47] Processing: VID_00301 (51 of 99)
- [14:45:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00301]
- [14:45:50] Reencoding video [VID_00301]
- [14:45:50] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:45:51] Processing audio tracks
- [14:45:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:45:54] Processing: VID_00302 (52 of 99)
- [14:45:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00302]
- [14:45:58] Reencoding video [VID_00302]
- [14:45:58] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:45:58] Processing audio tracks
- [14:45:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:46:01] Processing: VID_00303 (53 of 99)
- [14:46:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00303]
- [14:46:05] Reencoding video [VID_00303]
- [14:46:05] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:46:05] Processing audio tracks
- [14:46:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:46:09] Processing: VID_00304 (54 of 99)
- [14:46:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00304]
- [14:46:12] Reencoding video [VID_00304]
- [14:46:13] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:46:13] Processing audio tracks
- [14:46:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:46:16] Processing: VID_00305 (55 of 99)
- [14:46:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00305]
- [14:46:20] Reencoding video [VID_00305]
- [14:46:20] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:46:20] Processing audio tracks
- [14:46:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:46:23] Processing: VID_00306 (56 of 99)
- [14:46:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00306]
- [14:46:27] Reencoding video [VID_00306]
- [14:46:27] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:46:27] Processing audio tracks
- [14:46:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:46:31] Processing: VID_00307 (57 of 99)
- [14:46:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00307]
- [14:46:34] Reencoding video [VID_00307]
- [14:46:34] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:46:35] Processing audio tracks
- [14:46:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:46:38] Processing: VID_00308 (58 of 99)
- [14:46:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00308]
- [14:46:42] Reencoding video [VID_00308]
- [14:46:42] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:46:42] Processing audio tracks
- [14:46:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:46:45] Processing: VID_00309 (59 of 99)
- [14:46:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00309]
- [14:46:49] Reencoding video [VID_00309]
- [14:46:49] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:46:49] Processing audio tracks
- [14:46:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:46:53] Processing: VID_00310 (60 of 99)
- [14:46:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00310]
- [14:46:56] Reencoding video [VID_00310]
- [14:46:57] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:46:57] Processing audio tracks
- [14:46:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:47:00] Processing: VID_00311 (61 of 99)
- [14:47:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00311]
- [14:47:04] Reencoding video [VID_00311]
- [14:47:04] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:47:04] Processing audio tracks
- [14:47:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:47:07] Processing: VID_00312 (62 of 99)
- [14:47:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00312]
- [14:47:11] Reencoding video [VID_00312]
- [14:47:11] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:47:11] Processing audio tracks
- [14:47:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:47:15] Processing: VID_00313 (63 of 99)
- [14:47:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00313]
- [14:47:18] Reencoding video [VID_00313]
- [14:47:18] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:47:19] Processing audio tracks
- [14:47:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:47:22] Processing: VID_00314 (64 of 99)
- [14:47:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00314]
- [14:47:26] Reencoding video [VID_00314]
- [14:47:26] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:47:26] Processing audio tracks
- [14:47:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:47:29] Processing: VID_00315 (65 of 99)
- [14:47:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00315]
- [14:47:33] Reencoding video [VID_00315]
- [14:47:33] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:47:33] Processing audio tracks
- [14:47:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:47:37] Processing: VID_00316 (66 of 99)
- [14:47:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00316]
- [14:47:41] Reencoding video [VID_00316]
- [14:47:41] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:47:41] Processing audio tracks
- [14:47:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:47:44] Processing: VID_00317 (67 of 99)
- [14:47:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00317]
- [14:47:48] Reencoding video [VID_00317]
- [14:47:48] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:47:48] Processing audio tracks
- [14:47:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:47:51] Processing: VID_00318 (68 of 99)
- [14:47:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00318]
- [14:47:55] Reencoding video [VID_00318]
- [14:47:55] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:47:55] Processing audio tracks
- [14:47:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:47:59] Processing: VID_00319 (69 of 99)
- [14:47:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00319]
- [14:48:03] Reencoding video [VID_00319]
- [14:48:03] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:48:03] Processing audio tracks
- [14:48:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:48:06] Processing: VID_00320 (70 of 99)
- [14:48:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00320]
- [14:48:10] Reencoding video [VID_00320]
- [14:48:10] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:48:10] Processing audio tracks
- [14:48:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:48:13] Processing: VID_00321 (71 of 99)
- [14:48:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00321]
- [14:48:17] Reencoding video [VID_00321]
- [14:48:17] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:48:17] Processing audio tracks
- [14:48:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:48:21] Processing: VID_00322 (72 of 99)
- [14:48:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00322]
- [14:48:25] Reencoding video [VID_00322]
- [14:48:25] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:48:25] Processing audio tracks
- [14:48:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:48:28] Processing: VID_00323 (73 of 99)
- [14:48:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00323]
- [14:48:32] Reencoding video [VID_00323]
- [14:48:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:48:32] Processing audio tracks
- [14:48:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:48:35] Processing: VID_00324 (74 of 99)
- [14:48:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00324]
- [14:48:39] Reencoding video [VID_00324]
- [14:48:39] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:48:39] Processing audio tracks
- [14:48:39] Multiplexing M2TS

[FreaQ]

- [14:48:43] Processing: VID_00325 (75 of 99)
- [14:48:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00325]
- [14:48:47] Reencoding video [VID_00325]
- [14:48:47] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:48:47] Processing audio tracks
- [14:48:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:48:50] Processing: VID_00326 (76 of 99)
- [14:48:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00326]
- [14:48:54] Reencoding video [VID_00326]
- [14:48:54] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:48:54] Processing audio tracks
- [14:48:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:48:57] Processing: VID_00327 (77 of 99)
- [14:48:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00327]
- [14:49:01] Reencoding video [VID_00327]
- [14:49:01] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:01] Processing audio tracks
- [14:49:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:49:05] Processing: VID_00328 (78 of 99)
- [14:49:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
- [14:49:09] Reencoding video [VID_00328]
- [14:49:09] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:09] Processing audio tracks
- [14:49:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:49:12] Processing: VID_00329 (79 of 99)
- [14:49:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00329]
- [14:49:16] Reencoding video [VID_00329]
- [14:49:16] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:16] Processing audio tracks
- [14:49:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:49:19] Processing: VID_00330 (80 of 99)
- [14:49:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00330]
- [14:49:23] Reencoding video [VID_00330]
- [14:49:23] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:23] Processing audio tracks
- [14:49:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:49:27] Processing: VID_00331 (81 of 99)
- [14:49:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00331]
- [14:49:31] Reencoding video [VID_00331]
- [14:49:31] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:31] Processing audio tracks
- [14:49:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:49:34] Processing: VID_00332 (82 of 99)
- [14:49:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00332]
- [14:49:38] Reencoding video [VID_00332]
- [14:49:38] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:38] Processing audio tracks
- [14:49:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:49:41] Processing: VID_00333 (83 of 99)
- [14:49:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00333]
- [14:49:45] Reencoding video [VID_00333]
- [14:49:45] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:45] Processing audio tracks
- [14:49:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:49:49] Processing: VID_00334 (84 of 99)
- [14:49:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00334]
- [14:49:53] Reencoding video [VID_00334]
- [14:49:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:53] Processing audio tracks
- [14:49:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:49:56] Processing: VID_00335 (85 of 99)
- [14:49:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00335]
- [14:50:00] Reencoding video [VID_00335]
- [14:50:00] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:00] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:04] Processing: VID_00336 (86 of 99)
- [14:50:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00336]
- [14:50:07] Reencoding video [VID_00336]
- [14:50:07] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:07] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:11] Processing: VID_00337 (87 of 99)
- [14:50:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00337]
- [14:50:15] Reencoding video [VID_00337]
- [14:50:15] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:15] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:18] Processing: VID_00338 (88 of 99)
- [14:50:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00338]
- [14:50:22] Reencoding video [VID_00338]
- [14:50:22] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:22] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:26] Processing: VID_00339 (89 of 99)
- [14:50:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00339]
- [14:50:29] Reencoding video [VID_00339]
- [14:50:29] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:29] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:33] Processing: VID_00340 (90 of 99)
- [14:50:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00340]
- [14:50:37] Reencoding video [VID_00340]
- [14:50:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:37] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:40] Processing: VID_00341 (91 of 99)
- [14:50:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00341]
- [14:50:44] Reencoding video [VID_00341]
- [14:50:44] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:44] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:48] Processing: VID_00810 (92 of 99)
- [14:50:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00810]
- [14:50:53] Reencoding video [VID_00810]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.214 frames
- Bitrate: 28.750 Kbs
- [14:50:53] Reencoding: VID_00810, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:51:11] Reencoding: VID_00810, Pass 2 of 2
[14:51:16]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

[Ch3vr0n]

There's nothing rude about it. Just an observation of vital missing info. I'm always direct, always have been. Don't like beating around the bush or tread super careful :-) The volume name is in fact required, how would jdobbs test things if he doesn't know what movie you're processing ;-)

No info is useless in a log, for any software. Think about it. If it was useless it wouldn't be logged in the first place right ;-)?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6P met Tapatalk

[FreaQ]

All right. Fine with me. :)

[ripem2011]

i tried to do Avengers Infinity War UHD and at the very end i got this dont know if it helps you but hope it does
----------------------
[09 21 18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.01
[14:03:52] Source: AVENGERS_INFINITY_WAR_00004
- Input BD size: 60.76 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:29:21.952]
- Target BD size: 46.26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:03:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:03:52] Processing: VID_00042 (1 of 1)
- [14:03:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [14:17:42] Reencoding video [VID_00042]
- Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 214,872 frames
- Bitrate: 33,502 Kbs
- [14:17:42] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:44:18] Video Encode complete
- [15:44:18] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[15:44:18]PHASE ONE complete
[15:44:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:44:18] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Bitstream exception Unknown exception. It does not have to be! Please contact application support team for more information.
[15:55:51] - Failed to REBUILD
----------------------
[09 23 18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.01
[16:20:47] Source: AVENGERS_INFINITY_WAR_00004
- Input BD size: 60.76 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:29:21.952]
- Target BD size: 46.26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:20:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[16:20:51]PHASE ONE complete
[16:20:51]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:20:51] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:21:02] - Aborted per user request
----------------------
[09 23 18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.01
[16:21:28] Source: AVENGERS_INFINITY_WAR_00004
- Input BD size: 60.76 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:29:21.952]
- Target BD size: 46.26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:21:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[16:21:39]PHASE ONE complete
[16:21:39]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:21:39] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:22:00] - Aborted per user request
----------------------
[09 23 18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.01
[16:22:13] Source: AVENGERS_INFINITY_WAR_00004
- Input BD size: 60.76 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:29:21.952]
- Target BD size: 46.26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:22:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[16:22:14]PHASE ONE complete
[16:22:14]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:22:14] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Bitstream exception Unknown exception. It does not have to be! Please contact application support team for more information.
[16:33:08] - Failed to REBUILD

[jdobbs]

@ripem2011

I saw that error the other day... if you attempt to do the TSMUXER build manually you'll probably see a buffer underrun error. I haven't put my finger on the cause yet.

Just for s&g -- try editing the X265.BAT file in the WORKFILES folder, remove the "--no-b-pyramid" from the command line, and then execute the BAT. After it is done, run BD-RB again and continue the rebuild. Let me know if it finishes the build.

BTW: An encode that finished in 1 1/2 hours! What kind of processor are you using? Even a single pass ABR at "Very Fast" is taking me about 10 hours for a movie that size.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first link of this thread with a link to the newest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.60.02). Changes for this release:- Added code to correctly handle 50/60fps
sources when outputting to DVD.
- Updated the included version of
X265-64.EXE to v2.8.69 10 bit version.
- Corrected an build error in v0.60.01 that
could cause BD-RB to fail. Noticable when
selecting multiple streams into the batch
list -- may also possibly happen under
other circumstances.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[musiclover]

I have updated the first link of this thread with a link to the newest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.60.02). Changes for this release:- Added code to correctly handle 50/60fps
sources when outputting to DVD.
- Updated the included version of
X265-64.EXE to v2.8.69 10 bit version.
- Corrected an build error in v0.60.01 that
could cause BD-RB to fail. Noticable when
selecting multiple streams into the batch
list -- may also possibly happen under
other circumstances.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

The download link for v0.60.02 is not working correctly

[AmigaFuture]

Confirmed not working here also.

[jdobbs]

The download link for v0.60.02 is not working correctlySorry. I misspelled it on the server! I fixed it.

Note to self: Test everything.

[meadrocks]

Confirmed not working here also.

http://www.jdobbs.net/Freeware/BD-RBV06002.zip

[ripem2011]

@ripem2011

I saw that error the other day... if you attempt to do the TSMUXER build manually you'll probably see a buffer underrun error. I haven't put my finger on the cause yet.

Just for s&g -- try editing the X265.BAT file in the WORKFILES folder, remove the "--no-b-pyramid" from the command line, and then execute the BAT. After it is done, run BD-RB again and continue the rebuild. Let me know if it finishes the build.

BTW: An encode that finished in 1 1/2 hours! What kind of processor are you using? Even a single pass ABR at "Very Fast" is taking me about 10 hours for a movie that size.

lol i think it said that 1 1/2 hours because the first time it started to remux the power went out here so i had to restart it but i wish it took 1 1/2 hours it took 40hr my pc is rampage 4 extreme but i will do as you said and get back so see you in 3 days lol

[musiclover]

I have updated the first link of this thread with a link to the newest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.60.02). Changes for this release:- Added code to correctly handle 50/60fps
sources when outputting to DVD.


Thanks for the updated version. Making a dvd from a 50 fps source now works. Both in PAL and NTSC.

[jdobbs]

lol i think it said that 1 1/2 hours because the first time it started to remux the power went out here so i had to restart it but i wish it took 1 1/2 hours it took 40hr my pc is rampage 4 extreme but i will do as you said and get back so see you in 3 days lol??? If you restarted, that would show in the log (like you can see in the other logs). I'm confused... unless, of course it ended at that time 2-3 days later.

[spotswood]

Hello... have just installed a fresh Windows 10 v1803 w/all updates and no other software, other than BDRB v60.02 (located in Downloads/BD_Rebuilder), AviSynth_260.exe and LAVFilters-0.65.exe. When running BDRB for the first time (Run as Administrator) Windows Defender flagged it as an unsafe program, which I chose open anyway, then get the error in the 1st pic attached. Tried running REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT as Administrator as well and get the error cannot find the specified module. What's going on? Thanks for any help...

[MrVideo]

Thanks for the updated version. Making a dvd from a 50 fps source now works. Both in PAL and NTSC.
Where are you getting 50 frames/sec sources?

[musiclover]

Where are you getting 50 frames/sec sources?

BBC iPlayer webcast

[Ch3vr0n]

All EU dvd's are 50fps (that's the pal standard), speedup from 23.97(6) to 25 and then doubled.

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[jdobbs]

Hello... have just installed a fresh Windows 10 v1803 w/all updates and no other software, other than BDRB v60.02 (located in Downloads/BD_Rebuilder), AviSynth_260.exe and LAVFilters-0.65.exe. When running BDRB for the first time (Run as Administrator) Windows Defender flagged it as an unsafe program, which I chose open anyway, then get the error in the 1st pic attached. Tried running REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT and get the error cannot find the specified module. What's going on? Thanks for any help...The first error has nothing to do with BD Rebuilder, since it isn't using the installer.

Did you run the .BAT file as administrator? Also, make sure you are running it from within that folder.

[musiclover]

All EU dvd's are 50fps (that's the pal standard), speedup from 23.97(6) to 25 and then doubled.

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That's not correct. All PAL dvd's are 25fps

[jdobbs]

All EU dvd's are 50fps (that's the pal standard), speedup from 23.97(6) to 25 and then doubled.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6P met TapatalkPAL is 50 fields per second... 25 frames per second. The sources he's using are 720p/50fps (frames per second). You don't see a lot of that, even though they are part of the BD standard. That's probably why the bug went unreported for so long.

[Ch3vr0n]

@jdobbs just a heads-up, SPECIAL_3D_MUX isn't documented in changes.txt

[Sharc]

PAL is 50 fields per second... 25 frames per second. The sources he's using are 720p/50fps (frames per second). You don't see a lot of that, even though they are part of the BD standard. That's probably why the bug went unreported for so long.
Some TV stations in Europe broadcast HD as 720p50 rather than 1080i25. I remember the hot debates about what is better when HD TV was introduced.
Secondly, many home videocams have the option to select 720p50 or 1080i25 (or now even 1080p50).
Given the fact that the true resolution (details) of home videocams came hardly ever close to 1920x1080 due the real-time compression artifacts, 720p50 has been a very reasonable compromise with no visible loss in true spatial resolution. Moreover, 720p50 needs not to be deinterlaced by the player/TV, avoiding deinterlacing artifacts.

[Mark_Venture]

The first error has nothing to do with BD Rebuilder, since it isn't using the installer.

Did you run the .BAT file as administrator? Also, make sure you are running it from within that folder.@spotswood its outlined in step 3.1 in the OP instructions...

But to be honest, when I right click on the bat file and select "run as admin", It seems to fail because it always seems to try and run from C:\windows\system32 instead of the BD Rebuilder folder so it fails (because the OCX isn't in the win\system32 folder).

So its probably better to open an Administrative CMD prompt (Start -> Windows System -> right click on CMD Prompt -> More -> Run As Administrator)... When it launches, while in the window change to the BD-Rebuilder directory, and run the batch file from there (that is where the BAT file and the OCX file reside).... OR edit the BAT file, specify the path to the OCX file... then save/run it.

[Ch3vr0n]

@jdobbs SPECIAL_3D_MUX no change in PowerDVD 17, pixellation still present BUT reduced IMO using FRIM_SW_DECODE=0 and FRIM_SW_ENCODE=0 (and thus using hardware encoding), commenting out both lines (and pulling dummy display hdmi display plug) and running a 2nd test

[spotswood]

The first error has nothing to do with BD Rebuilder, since it isn't using the installer.

Did you run the .BAT file as administrator? Also, make sure you are running it from within that folder.Yes, ran as Administrator from the BDRB folder, sorry I didn't specify above, post updated...

@spotswood its outlined in step 3.1 in the OP instructions...

But to be honest, when I right click on the bat file and select "run as admin", It seems to fail because it always seems to try and run from C:\windows\system32 instead of the BD Rebuilder folder so it fails (because the OCX isn't in the win\system32 folder).

So its probably better to open an Administrative CMD prompt (Start -> Windows System -> right click on CMD Prompt -> More -> Run As Administrator)... When it launches, while in the window change to the BD-Rebuilder directory, and run the batch file from there (that is where the BAT file and the OCX file reside).... OR edit the BAT file, specify the path to the OCX file... then save/run it.Thanks for the tip, edited the .bat file, ran as administrator and success. All good now, thanks guys... ;^)

[ggtop]

Hi jdobbs,
thank you for the new version. Just installed and it reports itself as v0.60.01 as per INI:
[Options]
VERSION=0.60.0.1

[Ch3vr0n]

Update, even with software encoding the glitching is still present @jdobbs. So it looks like it didn't work (at least not for me), think it can be safely removed again in the next build. Considering i was the only one even persisting in finding a possible cause for this :) and a possible solution. Thanks for trying anyway!

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs just a heads-up, SPECIAL_3D_MUX isn't documented in changes.txt- Added a new hidden option SPECIAL_3D_MUX.
If set to 1 the TSMUXER parameters for
"insertSEI" and "contSPS" are excluded
from the video command line in the meta
file. Some have reported that this fixes
pixelation that has been experienced.This is from changes.txt

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,
thank you for the new version. Just installed and it reports itself as v0.60.01 as per INI:
[Options]
VERSION=0.60.0.1My mistake. I forgot to update the system version number for the compile, but the text labels (such as the form header and the help dialog) should be correct.

[jdobbs]

Yes, ran as Administrator from the BDRB folder, sorry I didn't specify above, post updated...

Thanks for the tip, edited the .bat file, ran as administrator and success. All good now, thanks guys... ;^)Good news. I'll file that one for future reports.

[jdobbs]

Update, even with software encoding the glitching is still present @jdobbs. So it looks like it didn't work (at least not for me), think it can be safely removed again in the next build. Considering i was the only one even persisting in finding a possible cause for this :) and a possible solution. Thanks for trying anyway!Thanks for the report. I'll remove that option in the next release. Too bad. It would have been good to kill it.

[MrVideo]

Some TV stations in Europe broadcast HD as 720p50 rather than 1080i25. I remember the hot debates about what is better when HD TV was introduced.
Same here, where two OTA networks are 720p59.94 (ABC and FOX). Supposedly the reason was sports. But, that point is moot now, since all of the main cameras that cover sports are high-speed for great slo-mo. That means the slo-mo plays out as if it were 1080p.

IMHO, 720 is HD-lite. Especially now that 4K exists (not OTA, yet) and 8K is around the corner. I've always considered 720 to be inferior HD.

[musiclover]

- Added a new hidden option SPECIAL_3D_MUX.
If set to 1 the TSMUXER parameters for
"insertSEI" and "contSPS" are excluded
from the video command line in the meta
file. Some have reported that this fixes
pixelation that has been experienced.This is from changes.txt

He probably means HIDDENOPTS.TXT

[FreaQ]

Hi jdobbs,

did not see a reponse regarding my problem.
I updated to 0.60.2 and BD-RB still reencodes even though FORCE_NOENCODE=1 ist set.

After a long time I tried to use BD-RB today again.
I just wanted to blank some annoying warnings and keep the rest as is.
Even though the option FORCE_NOENCODE=1 is set, BD-RB reencodes the video.
So I tried a dryrun with all extras, movie and warnings enabled. I also set the target size to 55000 MB. At first it was promising, the short warnings were not reencoded. But as soon as the movie kicked in BD-RB startet reencodeing. I aborted the process.
I am not sure if I am missing something. The BD has multiangle (3 angles).



----------------------
[09.25.18] BD Rebuilder v0.50.25
[14:39:38] Source:
- Input BD size: 40,89 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:31:47.906]
- Target BD size: 53,71 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:39:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:38] Processing: VID_00006 (1 of 99)
- [14:39:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [14:39:42] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- [14:39:42] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:39:43] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [14:39:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:39:46] Processing: VID_00100 (2 of 99)
- [14:39:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [14:39:50] Reencoding video [VID_00100]
- [14:39:50] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:39:50] Processing audio tracks
- [14:39:50] Multiplexing M2TS
.
.
.
- [14:50:26] Processing: VID_00339 (89 of 99)
- [14:50:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00339]
- [14:50:29] Reencoding video [VID_00339]
- [14:50:29] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:29] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:33] Processing: VID_00340 (90 of 99)
- [14:50:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00340]
- [14:50:37] Reencoding video [VID_00340]
- [14:50:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:37] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:40] Processing: VID_00341 (91 of 99)
- [14:50:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00341]
- [14:50:44] Reencoding video [VID_00341]
- [14:50:44] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:50:44] Processing audio tracks
- [14:50:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:48] Processing: VID_00810 (92 of 99)
- [14:50:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00810]
- [14:50:53] Reencoding video [VID_00810]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.214 frames
- Bitrate: 28.750 Kbs
- [14:50:53] Reencoding: VID_00810, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:51:11] Reencoding: VID_00810, Pass 2 of 2
[14:51:16]PHASE ONE aborted by user request



[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.24
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=55000
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
DTSX_ENABLE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=10
TARGET_SIZE=55000
FORCE_NOENCODE=1
ENCODER=0
IGNORE_3D=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=2
FRIMSOURCE=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
PGSTOSRT=0

[Ch3vr0n]

@jdobbs is there a way to do full disc backup, and output to an ssif using structure? I'd test that otherwise

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[jdobbs]

He probably means HIDDENOPTS.TXTI didn't add it because if it worked, it would be set and not have to be a hidden option. If it didn't work (as is the case), it will simply go away.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs is there a way to do full disc backup, and output to an ssif using structure? I'd test that otherwise

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6P met TapatalkNo. To get that structure you have to use TSMUXER to create the ISO, and it only does one file at a time.

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,

did not see a reponse regarding my problem.
I updated to 0.60.2 and BD-RB still reencodes even though FORCE_NOENCODE=1 ist set.Try turning off "IVTC...pulldown" in SETUP. There are several settings that can prevent noencode mode (in order obey the settings) -- that's the one that is the most common culprit.

[Ch3vr0n]

No. To get that structure you have to use TSMUXER to create the ISO, and it only does one file at a time.In that case, is it difficult for you to add? Maybe the glitching is due to the in-mux and ssif won't glitch. Maybe it's worth a try.

Sent from my Nexus 7 with Tapatalk

[jdobbs]

In that case, is it difficult for you to add? Maybe the glitching is due to the in-mux and ssif won't glitch. Maybe it's worth a try.

Sent from my Nexus 7 with TapatalkMore than difficult, virtually impossible without my having to write a piece of software that is equivalent to TSMUXER. Either way... in-mux is 100% within standard and is present on commercial discs -- so in that case the issue is with the player, not TSMUXER or BD-RB.

Have you tried doing a movie-only backup to an ISO to see if the problem still exists? My guess is it will have the same issue.

[Ch3vr0n]

No worries, just a question. I'll stick with my standard methods then. Process with bdrb, use a standalone I've hooked up to my PC's 3d monitor. Zero glitching, never has. I never doubted bdrb since 3d was first added.

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[Mark_Venture]

UHD question...

So I just did Infinity Wars 4K alt movie only MKV... I forgot, until after it was done, to change it from 1920x1080 intact to another profile to keep it 4K.. there isn't one..

Can I just edit the MISC\Alternate.txt file to add one?

Also, since Infinity Wars 4K/UHD is HDR, the output loses HDR and the color is off...

BUT at least it completes and looks good otherwise :D

[AmigaFuture]

I checked further into this..

00000.track_4113.264
[...]


All the files from the Playlist are gathered, BD-RB makes a TEMP BD, and before the MKV file is made the that file is created with 0 bytes and the MKV creation fails. There are 41 chapter points for the extras, and a single AC-3 is made while several VC1 files are extracted for the process.

[09/28/18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.02
[16:39:24] Source: ROLE_MODELS_[UNRATED]_ANYDVD_TAKE_2_00100
- Input BD size: 5.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:49:49.819]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:39:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:39:26] Processing: VID_00361 (1 of 81)
- [16:39:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00361]
- [16:39:33] Reencoding video [VID_00361]
- [16:39:33] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [16:39:33] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
(Only 1 audio...)
[...]
- [16:45:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00441]
- [16:45:13] Reencoding video [VID_00441]
- [16:45:13] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [16:45:13] Processing: VID_00442 (81 of 81)
- [16:45:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00442]
- [16:45:18] Reencoding video [VID_00442]
- [16:45:18] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[16:45:18]PHASE ONE complete
[16:45:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:45:18] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 0
[16:46:25] - Failed to REBUILD


Now what I thought to be a work-around.. Make BD of the particular extras..
[09/28/18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.02
[16:54:38] Source: ROLE_MODELS_[UNRATED]_ANYDVD_TAKE_2_00100
- Input BD size: 5.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:49:49.819]
- Target BD size: 46.26 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:54:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:54:41] Processing: VID_00361 (1 of 81)
- [16:54:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00361]
- [16:54:47] Reencoding video [VID_00361]
- [16:54:47] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [16:54:47] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [16:54:47] Processing: VID_00362 (2 of 81)
[...]
- [17:00:28] Processing: VID_00442 (81 of 81)
- [17:00:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00442]
- [17:00:33] Reencoding video [VID_00442]
- [17:00:33] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[17:00:33]PHASE ONE complete
[17:00:33]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:00:33] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[17:01:33] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:01:33] JOB: ROLE_MODELS_[UNRATED]_ANYDVD_TAKE_2 finished.

Now making MKV from it..
[09/28/18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.02
[17:05:34] Source: ROLE_MODELS_[UNRATED]_ANYDVD_TAKE_2_00000
- Input BD size: 5.84 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:49:49.820]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:05:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:05:36] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:05:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:06:40] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [17:06:40] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [17:06:40] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[17:06:40]PHASE ONE complete
[17:06:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:06:40] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[17:08:14] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:08:14] JOB: ROLE_MODELS_[UNRATED]_ANYDVD_TAKE_2 finished.


Extra 7 or 8 is where the sync is lost..for both BD and MKV.

I think it's the context of MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta you asked for?
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500 --start-time=27000000
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "Q:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\00000.track_4113.vc1", fps=23.976, contSPS

Do you have the movie? I'll help if not..

[FreaQ]

Try turning off "IVTC...pulldown" in SETUP. There are several settings that can prevent noencode mode (in order obey the settings) -- that's the one that is the most common culprit.

Thanks. That did the trick.

[jdobbs]

UHD question...

So I just did Infinity Wars 4K alt movie only MKV... I forgot, until after it was done, to change it from 1920x1080 intact to another profile to keep it 4K.. there isn't one..

Can I just edit the MISC\Alternate.txt file to add one?

Also, since Infinity Wars 4K/UHD is HDR, the output loses HDR and the color is off...

BUT at least it completes and looks good otherwise :DUse one of the NO_RESIZE options to keep the size. I'll have to check to make sure HDR is kept when outputting to ALTERNATE choices. I thought it would, but I don't think I tested it.

[m.rup]

I have installed Version 0.60.02 on a clean Windows 10 1803 System without other software and there seems to be a small glitch.
I selected "All Languages (all)" in setup, however, some audio tracks are cancelled.Manual enabling the tracks worked well. Rebuilder v0.50.25 handles the same projekt correctly.
By the way, when trying to preview some items, included version of Media Player Classic said "encode not possible". I had to install DirectX 9 to fix the issue.
The latest (and possibly last :() version 1.7.13 I installed worked well without DirectX 9.

[gonca]

Use one of the NO_RESIZE options to keep the size. I'll have to check to make sure HDR is kept when outputting to ALTERNATE choices. I thought it would, but I don't think I tested it.

Can x264 use the HDR metadata?
I don't think it can, so HEVC has to be used for that

[jdobbs]

Can x264 use the HDR metadata?
I don't think it can, so HEVC has to be used for thatYou’re right. I don’t think I created a “no resize” HEVC preset in the default set of outputs. My personal preset list has been modified quite a bit.

[jdobbs]

I have installed Version 0.60.02 on a clean Windows 10 1803 System without other software and there seems to be a small glitch.
I selected "All Languages (all)" in setup, however, some audio tracks are cancelled.Manual enabling the tracks worked well. Rebuilder v0.50.25 handles the same projekt correctly.
By the way, when trying to preview some items, included version of Media Player Classic said "encode not possible". I had to install DirectX 9 to fix the issue.
The latest (and possibly last :() version 1.7.13 I installed worked well without DirectX 9.? I haven’t made any changes to the audio selection methods... I don’t see how that could change.

[m.rup]

Sorry, my fault. I forgot to unselect "Limit to one track for each language". :o

[gonca]

You’re right. I don’t think I created a “no resize” HEVC preset in the default set of outputs. My personal preset list has been modified quite a bit.

I didn't notice any with vEncoder=1

[AmigaFuture]

Crickets making a sound, Oh... Shh.. Nope, that's Lathe....after that Parrot drink..

[gonca]

Crickets making a sound, Oh... Shh.. Nope, that's Lathe....after that Parrot drink..

Surely you mean his normal brain activity

[musiclover]

I imported a mkv that has 29 chapters in BD-RB. It is a concert with 29 songs. I want to make a blu-ray with a quick-play menu from it. But I don't know how to make the 29 chapters (songs) appear in the drop down menu.

Can someone point me in the right direction?

[MrVideo]

I imported a mkv that has 29 chapters in BD-RB. It is a concert with 29 songs. I want to make a blu-ray with a quick-play menu from it. But I don't know how to make the 29 chapters (songs) appear in the drop down menu.
Sorry, but there is no way to do that with BDRB. You need a professional Blu-ray authoring program.

[AmigaFuture]

Surely you mean his normal brain activity

gonca, stop calling me Shirley, get your glasses, binoculars checked.. :)

[musiclover]

Originally Posted by musiclover
I imported a mkv that has 29 chapters in BD-RB. It is a concert with 29 songs. I want to make a blu-ray with a quick-play menu from it. But I don't know how to make the 29 chapters (songs) appear in the drop down menu. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Originally Posted by MrVideo
Sorry, but there is no way to do that with BDRB. You need a professional Blu-ray authoring program.

Using mkvmerge.exe I split the file in 29 parts and imported these 29 songs in BD-RB. Now the quick-play menu looks good but playing the blu-ray it has a pause after each song. It's just a second or so each time but it makes viewing the concert less pleasing.

So, I guess nothing can be done further about it.

[MrVideo]

Using mkvmerge.exe I split the file in 29 parts and imported these 29 songs in BD-RB. Now the quick-play menu looks good but playing the blu-ray it has a pause after each song. It's just a second or so each time but it makes viewing the concert less pleasing.

So, I guess nothing can be done further about it.
Correct. That is the closest you are going to get with BDRB. A professional authoring program would allow you to create a song list menu, creating 30 playlists. One for a "play all" and one playlist for each chapter. But, the cost for a pro-authoring program would not be cost effective for a single project like this. BTW, I didn't suggest what you did, because I knew that you would end up going back to the menu after playing each part.

[musiclover]

Correct. That is the closest you are going to get with BDRB. A professional authoring program would allow you to create a song list menu, creating 30 playlists. One for a "play all" and one playlist for each chapter. But, the cost for a pro-authoring program would not be cost effective for a single project like this. BTW, I didn't suggest what you did, because I knew that you would end up going back to the menu after playing each part.

I set "Play items sequentially (don't return to MENU at items end)". So I thought that would take care of things. But it leaves a little pause at every item.

[gonca]

gonca, stop calling me Shirley, get your glasses, binoculars checked.. :)

Surely, you jest

[MrVideo]

I set "Play items sequentially (don't return to MENU at items end)". So I thought that would take care of things. But it leaves a little pause at every item.
You're right. I forgot all about that option. I do not know what it takes to author seamless play. jdobbs is going to have to talk about doing that.

Update: I think (based upon inspection of some Blu-ray releases) that seamless play requires the use of a single playlist. That single playlist lists the M2TS files that will be played, in the order listed. Each item of a menu will have a playlist associated with it. Once the playlist is finished being played, the "program" has to do the end instruction. That takes a little bit of time, hence the delay from the end of one playlist to the start of the next.

[Lathe]

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaFuture

Crickets making a sound, Oh... Shh.. Nope, that's Lathe....after that Parrot drink.

Surely you mean his normal brain activity

Okay you guys... Now, you are just pulling stuff directly out of each others @.. uh, out of the ether...

[jdobbs]

I imported a mkv that has 29 chapters in BD-RB. It is a concert with 29 songs. I want to make a blu-ray with a quick-play menu from it. But I don't know how to make the 29 chapters (songs) appear in the drop down menu.

Can someone point me in the right direction?I can take a look at it. The question is how much work it would be, whether it will get much use, and whether the effort is justified by the probable usage.

[Edit] Interesting. I thought I posted about this yesterday right after your post... but my answer isn't here.

[Edit again] Ahh... it was in the feature request thread.

[Lathe]

I can take a look at it. The question is how much work it would be, whether it will get much use, and whether the effort is justified by the probable usage.

[Edit] Interesting. I thought I posted about this yesterday right after your post... but my answer isn't here.

[Edit again] Ahh... it was in the feature request thread.

Okay JD... no more of these for you...

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/shroom.gif

[varekai]

Me thinks cartonish is more fun in lalaland...
https://frupic.frubar.net/shots/36570.gif

[jdobbs]

Me thinks cartonish is more fun in lalaland...
https://frupic.frubar.net/shots/36570.gifhttp://lathe-of-heaven.com/shroom.gifI think they both represent my mental state very well.

[Lathe]

I think they both represent my mental state very well.

See.... we know our JD... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif

[AmigaFuture]

"Wow, those 'shrooms are p....r....e....t..t....y...." I think JD also muttered.

[MrVideo]

I have 5 pieces of 720x480 16:9 MPEG-2 video that I've added to a Blu-ray. But, when played on my Samsung BD player, it believes that the videos are 4:3.

Here is the mediainfo on one of the videos:
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 204 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Original frame rate : 23.976 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown
Compression mode : Lossy
Time code of first frame : 01:00:00:00
Time code source : Group of pictures header
Default : Yes
Forced : No
I burn the BD structure from the one created in the IMPORTS directory. A backup is not done.

What needs to be done for the BD player to get the correct playback flag?

UPDATE: Found it... sort-of.

I looked at the M2TS files with mediainfo and discovered that the AR was set to 3:2 and the frame rate to 59.94. That was a result of BDRB doing a VFR to CFR conversion. Why, I do not know. So, I disabled VFR->CFR and ended up with the correct AR, i.e., 16.9. But the frame rate was changed to 19.181. WTF? When that was played, the audio was correct, but the video was obviously slower.

Why can't BDRB just place the video into a M2TS container without screwing with it? Is there a flag for that? There is nothing wrong with the video files, as they came off a DVD. I used DVDFab to rip the files into a MKV wrapper.

[jdobbs]

I have 5 pieces of 720x480 16:9 MPEG-2 video that I've added to a Blu-ray. But, when played on my Samsung BD player, it believes that the videos are 4:3.

Here is the mediainfo on one of the videos:
Frame rate mode : Variable
I burn the BD structure from the one created in the IMPORTS directory. A backup is not done.

What needs to be done for the BD player to get the correct playback flag?

UPDATE: Found it... sort-of.

I looked at the M2TS files with mediainfo and discovered that the AR was set to 3:2 and the frame rate to 59.94. That was a result of BDRB doing a VFR to CFR conversion. Why, I do not know. So, I disabled VFR->CFR and ended up with the correct AR, i.e., 16.9. But the frame rate was changed to 19.181. WTF? When that was played, the audio was correct, but the video was obviously slower.

Why can't BDRB just place the video into a M2TS container without screwing with it? Is there a flag for that? There is nothing wrong with the video files, as they came off a DVD. I used DVDFab to rip the files into a MKV wrapper.BD-RB did the VFR->CFR conversion because the original has a variable framerate (which is illegal for BD). It just turns out that 19.181 is the average framerate. I have no idea why some people are obsessed with VFR -- as it really doesn't save that much space.

Are you sure the first conversion was 59.94fps? BD-RB would only do that if it had to convert it to 720p. I'm not sure why BD-RB assumed it was 4:3. I'm guessing, maybe, it lost it in the conversion?? You can force 16:9 by adding the following to your INI (see HIDDENOPTS.TXT):

IMPORT_FORCE_ASPECT=16:9

Make sure you reenable framerate conversion before importing it -- and don't forget to comment IMPORT_FORCE_ASPECT out or delete it after you import that file, though, so you don't ruin the next import.

If the framerate is variable, I doubt it came directly off a DVD, someone had to convert/reencode it first.

If you still have issues, send me a short clip (dvd-rb@jdobbs.net) and I'll trace it during import. I made some changes to the import algorithm recently and there may have been some unforeseen impacts.

[Mark_Venture]

You’re right. I don’t think I created a “no resize” HEVC preset in the default set of outputs. My personal preset list has been modified quite a bit.

Can you share a present to try? :) Please :)

[jdobbs]

Can you share a present to try? :) Please :)Sure. What kind of audio are you using, AAC or AC3?

But... I'm not sure if it will keep the HDR, I'll have to check the code. I'm not sure I considered ALTERNATE when I added that code. It also has to use FFMPEG as the frame server (to keep HDR).

[gonca]

For possible consideration
When using DGDecNV the index file (*.dgi) has the HDR data in it

[jdobbs]

For possible consideration
When using DGDecNV the index file (*.dgi) has the HDR data in itUnfortunately, though, that will only work if you have an NVIDIA card that supports HEVC decoding (which I [and possibly others] don't). That doesn't mean that I can't add the capability -- but right now I have no way of testing it. I'm also not sure how it could work in a version of AVISYNTH that only supports 8 bit colors.

[gonca]

Apparently there are some hacks but they are not good solutions
The most obvious way would be to use avisynth + (it has 32 and 64 bit versions)

[MrVideo]

Are you sure the first conversion was 59.94fps? BD-RB would only do that if it had to convert it to 720p.
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L3.1
Format settings : 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, RefFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2 min 20 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 034 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.243
Stream size : 84.1 MiB (92%)
I'm not sure why BD-RB assumed it was 4:3. I'm guessing, maybe, it lost it in the conversion??
Not 4:3, 3:2. It considered the pixels to be square, which they aren't.
You can force 16:9 by adding the following to your INI (see HIDDENOPTS.TXT):

IMPORT_FORCE_ASPECT=16:9
Didn't work, still 3:2.
Make sure you reenable framerate conversion before importing it
I have no clue what that option is. I couldn't find any option with "framerate" in its title.
-- and don't forget to comment IMPORT_FORCE_ASPECT out or delete it after you import that file, though, so you don't ruin the next import.
Impossible. The options are used for the whole run, which in this case is five 720x480 files and a 1080p file. I'm assuming that a comment in the INI file is a "!" character.
If the framerate is variable, I doubt it came directly off a DVD, someone had to convert/reencode it first.
True, since BDRB won't read in VOB files directly. So, the first file I worked with is the MKV created by DVDFab. Looking at the VOB file with mediainfo, it declares the framerate as 29.97. But, DVDFab gets it right in that it is 23.976 with 2:3 pulldown. When I look at the VOB file with VideoReDo, it honors the pulldown flag and when stepping thru the video it displays four and then skips a frame. I used TSMuxer to create a TS file of the VOB file. TSMuxer declared the file to have pulldown. That file does not indicate variable framerate when looked at with mediainfo. But, BDRB still says that it has VFR. So, it also set the framerate at 59.94. By turning off VFR, it again did the frame rate as 19.181.
If you still have issues, send me a short clip (dvd-rb@jdobbs.net) and I'll trace it during import. I made some changes to the import algorithm recently and there may have been some unforeseen impacts.
I've sent you an e-mail with a couple of links.

The DVD VOB file should be able to be dropped onto a Blu-ray, since MPEG-2 with 2:3 pulldown flags should be legal. Actually, any VOB file on a DVD should be able to be dropped onto a Blu-ray.

[MrVideo]

A thought:
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 210 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Original display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Original frame rate : 23.976 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown
Compression mode : Lossy
Time code of first frame : 01:00:00;00
Time code source : Group of pictures header
Default : No
Forced : No
When the items in RED exist, ignore what is in BLUE and just copy the MPEG-2 file without mucking with it. Or better yet, remove the 2:3 pulldown flags and output it as 23.976p, which is what I really want. But, the BD book that I have indicates that 480p23.976 is not legal. :mad:

Experiment Update: I took one of the files and ran it thru TSMuxer and set it to remove the pulldown and then ran that thru BDRB. BDRB left it alone. I then played it on my Samsung BD player and it did not care that it was 480p23.976. As that violates the BD spec, BDRB will never do what I did. That said, The issues discovered still need to be resolved, as other users may have come across this problem.

[Lathe]

I've never quite grasped the 1440x1080 thing... I THINK it has something to do with the shape of the pixels, I'm not sure. Is that natively a legal AR for Blu-ray, or if you import an MKV file with that AR into BDRB, will it simply automatically add borders to bring it to a full 1920x1080?

In other words, if I were to take that MKV file and run it through TSMuxer into a BDMV folder, I think I tried that before and my OPPO just stretches it horizontally to fill the screen instead of rendering it in the proper 4:3 AR. What exactly does BDRB do with a file with that AR? I've never been able to figure out how to place an MKV file with the 1440x1080 AR into a BDMV folder and have it play properly without re-encoding it and adding borders.

And if that AR IS legal for Blu-ray, then why won't my OPPO display it properly if I just mux it through TSMuxer into a Blu-ray format? Do I have to change some kind of 'flags' or something, and is that what BDRB does? Can someone explain that to me. I've never really understood that...

[Sharc]

I've never quite grasped the 1440x1080 thing... I THINK it has something to do with the shape of the pixels, I'm not sure. Is that natively a legal AR for Blu-ray, ...
1920x1080 square pixels resized to 1440x1080 and encoded with --sar 4:3 and displayed at DAR 16:9 is fully Blu-ray compliant. You can look at it as being an anamorphic format.
No need to add borders.

[MrVideo]

I've never quite grasped the 1440x1080 thing... I THINK it has something to do with the shape of the pixels, I'm not sure. Is that natively a legal AR for Blu-ray, or if you import an MKV file with that AR into BDRB, will it simply automatically add borders to bring it to a full 1920x1080?
1440x1080 is a legal 4:3 HD Blu-ray format. Therefore, all players must handle it correctly, IFF the video file flags it as 4:3. If it gets marked as 16:9, then it will get stretched to fill the screen (though not strictly legal).
In other words, if I were to take that MKV file and run it through TSMuxer into a BDMV folder, I think I tried that before and my OPPO just stretches it horizontally to fill the screen instead of rendering it in the proper 4:3 AR. What exactly does BDRB do with a file with that AR? I've never been able to figure out how to place an MKV file with the 1440x1080 AR into a BDMV folder and have it play properly without re-encoding it and adding borders.
What does mediainfo report about the MKV file? What does mediainfo report about the M2TS file that BDRB creates.
And if that AR IS legal for Blu-ray, then why won't my OPPO display it properly if I just mux it through TSMuxer into a Blu-ray format? Do I have to change some kind of 'flags' or something, and is that what BDRB does? Can someone explain that to me. I've never really understood that...
No idea. We need more info about the MKV and M2TS files that you are attempting to use.

[MrVideo]

1920x1080 square pixels resized to 1440x1080 and encoded with --sar 4:3 and displayed at DAR 16:9 is fully Blu-ray compliant. You can look at it as being an anamorphic format.
No need to add borders.
Actually it is not. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray
All Blu-ray HD pixels are square. Taking 1920 and rescaling to 1440 (anamorphic) is not Blu-ray legal. Many cable companies have reduced 1920 to 1440, but that is OK for that technology. It is not OK for Blu-ray.

[sneaker_ger]

The Wikipedia table just says "aspect ratio" without really defining what kind of aspect ratio. I'd argue it is wrong as it says

720×480 59.94i | 4:3 or 16:9
720×576 50i | 4:3 or 16:9
which implies display aspect ratio. For 1440x1080 display aspect ratio must be 16:9 also according to the source wikipedia lists (http://blu-raydisc.com/assets/Downloadablefile/BD-ROM-AV-WhitePaper_110712.pdf) (see 3.3.1). Also info on doom9 (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154533) (table 1.3). I've fixed the Wikipedia entry.

[MrVideo]

Thanks for the clarification and fixing the wiki.

[jdobbs]

True, since BDRB won't read in VOB files directly. Yes it will via "Import DVD".

[jdobbs]

A thought:
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 4 210 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 kb/s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Original display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Original frame rate : 23.976 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown
Compression mode : Lossy
Time code of first frame : 01:00:00;00
Time code source : Group of pictures header
Default : No
Forced : No
When the items in RED exist, ignore what is in BLUE and just copy the MPEG-2 file without mucking with it. Or better yet, remove the 2:3 pulldown flags and output it as 23.976p, which is what I really want. But, the BD book that I have indicates that 480p23.976 is not legal. :mad:

Experiment Update: I took one of the files and ran it thru TSMuxer and set it to remove the pulldown and then ran that thru BDRB. BDRB left it alone. I then played it on my Samsung BD player and it did not care that it was 480p23.976. As that violates the BD spec, BDRB will never do what I did. That said, The issues discovered still need to be resolved, as other users may have come across this problem.No. BD-RB actually looks at the PTS of all the frames to make sure MEDIAINFO is right. If it says the framerate is variable -- it is variable.

BTW: BD-RB will do what you said it won't (remove the pulldown flags and keep intact)... you just have to make sure you use the proper settings. I've mentioned numerous times in this thread that 720x480@23.976fps isn't a part of the standard -- but is supported by every player so I allow it. In fact, since you said "...and then ran it through BDRB. BDRB left it alone.", I guess that is self evident. Of course, on most players you can leave the pulldown flags in and the player has the ability to playback at the original FILM rate anyway.

I'll download your sources and check it out. I think I may know what change I made that caused BD-RB to misinterpret the source aspect on your 720x480 source. Not sure though.

The file import module (especially for 720x480) has become really convoluted from all the "adjustments" I have made for the stupid things people do when they reencode and post video files. I just ran into one the other day where someone wanted to keep a 4:3 source at a standard 720x480 resolution -- so they resized the picture to 640x480 and added black borders. Tell me how I'm supposed to adjust for that...

[MrVideo]

Yes it will via "Import DVD".
Doesn't help when trying to mix DVD content with MKV content, i.e., "Video Files."

That said, the way some DVDs get authored results in a piece of video that you want being contained within a multi-part VOB. Hence the use of DVDFab to extract content based upon the "title." This particular DVD had the special features in their only VOB. Can't count on that with every DVD.

[jdobbs]

@MrVideo

The problem isn't BD-RB. It's the output file from DVDFab. It is definitely variable framerate -- in the example you gave me there are over 1,000 instances where timecodes indicate missing frames (or other anomalies) in the source. When BD-RB looks at the timecodes and sees that the source is VFR, it then looks to see what the minimum distance is between frames -- so it can determine the true original framerate. There is at least one frame in this source where the timecode difference is zero. Since there is no "infinite" framerate, BD-RB selects the next best framerate, which happened to be 59.97. Even when I tell it to ignore zero deltas between frames, it still finds a distance that would be consistent with 29.97 rather than 23.976.

So... the bottom line is: don't create MKVs using DVDFab if you want to import into BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

Doesn't help when trying to mix DVD content with MKV content, i.e., "Video Files."

That said, the way some DVDs get authored results in a piece of video that you want being contained within a multi-part VOB. Hence the use of DVDFab to extract content based upon the "title." This particular DVD had the special features in their only VOB. Can't count on that with every DVD.In that case, import from DVD, and then create an MKV using BD-RB (with intact audio and intact video). BD-RB handles video titles correctly across VOBs. Then you can import all the MKVs together.

You'd just import the DVD, and then select the playlists you want to output to ALTERNATE.

BD-RB also has the advantage of importing multiple DVDs in a single import -- so, for example, you could import an entire season of a series (across 10 DVDs) into a single BD structure, and then, using the multiple batch function, create mkvs from all of them with just a few mouse clicks. I do that all the time. You can also set the minimum time variable, so extraneous material will be ignored.

[MrVideo]

No. BD-RB actually looks at the PTS of all the frames to make sure MEDIAINFO is right. If it says the framerate is variable -- it is variable.
Just what is considered variable? Nobody, that I know of, encodes MPEG-2 video for DVD other than at 29.97 fps, or 23.976 fps with pulldown flags for 29.97 output. In the sample that I've made available, the true fps is supposedly 23.976. When I have TSMuxer remove the pulldown flags, the result is 23.976 fps. BDRB doesn't complain about it being variable. If mediainfo doesn't say it is variable, maybe you don't check the PTS for variable.

On another project, a few of the files resulted in TSMuxer giving the following warnings:
Warning! Source stream contain irregular pulldown marks. Mistiming between original fps and fps/1.25(without pulldown) exceed 100ms.
Warning! Source stream contain irregular pulldown marks. Mistiming between original fps and fps/1.25(without pulldown) exceed 200ms.
Warning! Source stream contain irregular pulldown marks. Mistiming between original fps and fps/1.25(without pulldown) exceed 400ms.
The sample I provided has no such warnings, so I'm guessing not variable frame rate. So, I'm confused as to where the variable frame rate is coming from.

BTW: BD-RB will do what you said it won't (remove the pulldown flags and keep intact)... you just have to make sure you use the proper settings.
And just how does one get BDRB to remove the pulldown flags? What are the proper settings? So many settings. :scared:
I've mentioned numerous times in this thread that 720x480@23.976fps isn't a part of the standard -- but is supported by every player so I allow it. In fact, since you said "...and then ran it through BDRB. BDRB left it alone.", I guess that is self evident. Of course, on most players you can leave the pulldown flags in and the player has the ability to playback at the original FILM rate anyway.
I suppose I should have figured that since you didn't barf on 480p23.976 (like you do some DD+ audio), that you were accepting it.
I'll download your sources and check it out. I think I may know what change I made that caused BD-RB to misinterpret the source aspect on your 720x480 source. Not sure though.
As noted, it isn't just the aspect ratio. It is the mucking with the frame rate that is an issue. Telling it to not do VFR checking and that resulting in 19.181 fps setting and when it does do VRF checking and it produced 59.94 fps. So, getting BDRB to leave the SD file well enough alone, with the pulldown flags, would be great. I just do not know how to get there. Maybe the sample will help.
The file import module (especially for 720x480) has become really convoluted from all the "adjustments" I have made for the stupid things people do when they reencode and post video files. I just ran into one the other day where someone wanted to keep a 4:3 source at a standard 720x480 resolution -- so they resized the picture to 640x480 and added black borders. Tell me how I'm supposed to adjust for that...
You don't. You just tell the person that what they did was wrong, pure and simple.

[MrVideo]

The problem isn't BD-RB. It's the output file from DVDFab. It is definitely variable framerate -- in the example you gave me there are over 1,000 instances where timecodes indicate missing frames (or other anomalies) in the source.

So... the bottom line is: don't create MKVs using DVDFab if you want to import into BD-RB.
Did you look at the VOB that I included? Mediainfo does not indicate variable frame rate. For a test, I used VideoReDo to also make a MKV file from reading the title from the DVD. It too resulted in mediainfo saying that it has a variable frame rate. Maybe there is something wrong with the MPEG-2 encoding on the DVD and not the fault of DVDFab, especially when another program gets it "wrong."

UPDATE: I took the VOB file and had TSMuxer create a TS file, keeping the pulldown flags. I then ran that through BDRB and guess what, the frame rate is 19.181 fps. No indication of variable frame rate via mediainfo.

[jdobbs]

Did you look at the VOB that I included? Mediainfo does not indicate variable frame rate. For a test, I used VideoReDo to also make a MKV file from reading the title from the DVD. It too resulted in mediainfo saying that it has a variable frame rate. Maybe there is something wrong with the MPEG-2 encoding on the DVD and not the fault of DVDFab, especially when another program gets it "wrong."

UPDATE: I took the VOB file and had TSMuxer create a TS file, keeping the pulldown flags. I then ran that through BDRB and guess what, the frame rate is 19.181 fps. No indication of variable frame rate via mediainfo.I told you how to do it correctly -- I also pointed out why you had the issues... why do I want to keep pursuing a problem that is caused by something outside of my control?

I just used MKVMERGE to create an MKV out of the VOB. It indicates the framerate is variable. The bottom line is the source is corrupt. The 19.181fps represents the total number frames divided by the time -- which is a result of the variable framerate. MEDIAINFO can sometimes miss variable framerate, especially in atypical video files (like a VOB, which is rarely used without supporting external information). On a TS it doesn't even appear that MEDIAINFO even reports the "Frame Rate Mode". That's probably because TS has no indicator of a variable frame rate beyond the timestamps.

BD-RB can be forced to scan (IMPORT_VFR_SCAN=1) regardless of what MEDIAINFO says. But even then it will only do it when there is a "Frame Rate Mode" entry in the MEDIAINFO results.

[MrVideo]

You'd just import the DVD, and then select the playlists you want to output to ALTERNATE.
OK, I copied the DVD contents into a directory,
For mode I selected "Movie-Only Backup." Then I selected "Alternate Movie-Only Output." Within the list given I selected "MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio" and saved it. I then did DVD import and selected a single title, the shortest one (which is the sample I provided). When I tell it to go, it built a BD structure. No indication of a MKV file being created.

Color me confused.

[jdobbs]

OK, I copied the DVD contents into a directory,
For mode I selected "Movie-Only Backup." Then I selected "Alternate Movie-Only Output." Within the list given I selected "MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio" and saved it. I then did DVD import and selected a single title, the shortest one (which is the sample I provided). When I tell it to go, it built a BD structure. No indication of a MKV file being created.

Color me confused.The import doesn't create an MKV. It only imports. You then have to select an output mode (like ALTERNATE) and run the job against the BD structure created during the import. You also have to make sure the source selected meets that minimum times specified for imports (see Import/QuickPlay Settings). I think it defaults to 15 minutes...

Is the DVD structure unaltered from an original disc? I ask because the VOB you gave me isn't consistent with the DVD standard (since it has a variable frame rate). If you are trying to use that one, something has happened to it in between the time it existed on a disc and it was created on the hard drive, and it is just going to fail again.

Who knows... it may be some type of new protection scheme (though I doubt it). Since the timecodes are used to display output on the player, if someone manipulated a video stream in a VOB it just might not be rejected. But it would definitely fail to meet the standard. If it is a protection scheme, it is something new, because I've worked with literally thousands of DVDs during development and testing of DVD-RB and BD-RB and have never seen a variable framerate.

What makes it even more rare is the weird variation in timecodes. Normally BD-RB would catch the underlying frame rate and correct it during the import's VFR->CFR conversion. Why would there ever be a period shorter than the distance between original frames of the video source when encoding VFR? That defeats the purpose of VFR. I may just change the algorithm so that it would use the "Original Frame Rate" when it is listed in the MEDIAINFO output rather than the value it determines from the timecode scan. That way the craziness shown in the VOB you sent me would just be ignored. But, with the crazy timecodes, I'm not sure DirectshowSource() would even work correctly during the VFR-->CFR conversion. It may be forced to drop frames where the interval is too short.

[MrVideo]

The import doesn't create an MKV. It only imports. You then have to select an output mode (like ALTERNATE) and run the job against the BD structure created during the import. You also have to make sure the source selected meets that minimum times specified for imports (see Import/QuickPlay Settings). I think it defaults to 15 minutes...
Ah, you gotta click on "backup" to get the MKV file(s) made. Not obvious, as I wasn't making a backup, per se. Maybe the BACKUP button should be changed to CREATE ALTERNATE, or whatever output mode was selected. :D
Is the DVD structure unaltered from an original disc?
Yes. It was only renamed. Of course, DVD decryption removed as well.
I ask because the VOB you gave me isn't consistent with the DVD standard (since it has a variable frame rate). If you are trying to use that one, something has happened to it in between the time it existed on a disc and it was created on the hard drive, and it is just going to fail again.
Like I said, nope. DVDFab and VideoReDo used the disc directly.
I may just change the algorithm so that it would use the "Original Frame Rate" when it is specified in the MEDIAINFO output rather than the value it determines from the timecode scan. That way the craziness shown in the VOB you sent me would just be ignored.
That sounds like a great idea. Here's why. On another project (for which I do not have the DVDs anymore), I took the six DVDFab made MKV files and ran them through BDRB, VFR scan disabled. Every one of them ended up with a frame rate of 19.181. The DVD was released in 2011. When VFR scan was allowed, the aspect ratio was 3:2 and five were 59.94 and one was 29.97. All are 23.976 OFR, 2:3 pulldown flagged. I do not believe that DVDFab and VideoReDo are doing it wrong. I do not know what is going on with the time codes, but is appears that they can't be trusted. BTW, the DVD sample that you were working with was from a 2017 release.

Any idea on the 3:2 aspect ratio issue?

[Lathe]

Thanks guys for the answers. I still am as confused as hell, but I'm THINKING that there must be some 'flag' or something that needs to be set going from the MKV which does play properly at 4:3 to the BDMV folder, when it then will display as stretched to fill the screen. What I should do is try to run it through BDRB and see what it does...

[jdobbs]

Any idea on the 3:2 aspect ratio issue?That just means that no ratio was used during the VFR-->CFR reencode and 1:1 is assumed. No big deal, as the aspect information is kept separately (720x480=3:2). Pseudo-BD structures are meant only as an in-between, and they also aren't very efficiently encoded (translated --> near-lossless and very big) to be quicker. But I can add the ratio information to the VFR-->CFR encode easy enough.

I'm going to look at the timecodes more closely to see where the anomalies are.

[jdobbs]

That just means that no ratio was used during the VFR-->CFR reencode and 1:1 is assumed. No big deal, as the aspect information is kept separately (720x480=3:2). Pseudo-BD structures are meant only as an in-between, and they also aren't very efficiently encoded (translated --> near-lossless and very big) to be quicker. But I can add the ratio information to the VFR-->CFR encode easy enough.

I'm going to look at the timecodes more closely to see where the anomalies are.Well... it just get's weirder when you look at it. Since the original rate was 23.976 there should be a little less than 42 milliseconds between pictures. But it appears to alternate between 33-34ms interval for one picture, followed by a 50ms interval for the next. That would average out right... but I've never seen anything like that. Then the last two frames have an interval of 0ms. I had my code count the frames... and the total seems right.

[MrVideo]

Mediainfo reports a time of 1:24
VideoReDo reports 2532 frames of 1:24:14
And then there is:
DGMPGIndexFileNV15 DGIndexNV 2051 X32
c:\Program Files (x86)\dgavcdecnv\

e:\\VTS_02_1.track_224.m2v 45388328
[...]
SIZ 720 x 480
FPS 30000 / 1001
CODED 2028
PLAYBACK 2535
100.00% FILM
ORDER 1
That times out as well. 2028 coded frames is 23.976 fps, or 2028 x 1.25 = 2535, the 29.97 frame rate. The M2V file was created by using TSMuxer to demux the VOB file.

No idea why the timecodes are messed up with this file and the other six files from the other project. I'm guessing that if I tear apart other DVDs that I have, I will end up with the same timecode mess.

[jdobbs]

Mediainfo reports a time of 1:24
VideoReDo reports 2532 frames of 1:24:14
And then there is:
DGMPGIndexFileNV15 DGIndexNV 2051 X32
c:\Program Files (x86)\dgavcdecnv\

e:\\VTS_02_1.track_224.m2v 45388328
[...]
SIZ 720 x 480
FPS 30000 / 1001
CODED 2028
PLAYBACK 2535
100.00% FILM
ORDER 1
That times out as well. 2028 coded frames is 23.976 fps, or 2028 x 1.25 = 2535, the 29.97 frame rate. The M2V file was created by using TSMuxer to demux the VOB file.

No idea why the timecodes are messed up with this file and the other six files from the other project. I'm guessing that if I tear apart other DVDs that I have, I will end up with the same timecode mess.Well... after looking at the code and doing some testing, I can tell you that the timecodes aren't the only problem. My routine for handling 720x480/576 VFR conversion had some other issues as well. I'm working on it and will fix it for the next release.

[Mark_Venture]

Sure. What kind of audio are you using, AAC or AC3?

But... I'm not sure if it will keep the HDR, I'll have to check the code. I'm not sure I considered ALTERNATE when I added that code. It also has to use FFMPEG as the frame server (to keep HDR).
AC3 is preferred.

I have no problem changing settings

[MrVideo]

Well... after looking at the code and doing some testing, I can tell you that the timecodes aren't the only problem. My routine for handling 720x480/576 VFR conversion had some other issues as well. I'm working on it and will fix it for the next release.
Thanks for the update.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.60.03). Changes for this release:- Updated ALTERNATE encoding so that HDR
information is kept when encoding UHD
with HEVC settings.
- Fixed an error in which particularly odd
variable framerate sources might result
in incorrect framerates during import.
- Fixed an error in which conversion from
VFR to CFR of 720x480/576 sources during
import results in incorrect aspect ratio.
- Added HEVC/No resize ALTERNATE presets to
the default list for UHD output.
- Corrected the x: function in filtering so
it correctly finds and executes external
filters when ALTERNATE titles are added to
a batch filter via "Add multiple playlists
to queue".
- Fixed an error introduced in v0.60.02 that
forced AVISYNTH mode rather than FFMPEG
for frame serving when testing UHD backups.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Lathe]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.60.03). Changes for this release:- Updated ALTERNATE encoding so that HDR
information is kept when encoding UHD
with HEVC settings.
- Fixed an error in which particularly odd
variable framerate sources might result
in incorrect framerates during import.
- Fixed an error in which conversion from
VFR to CFR of 720x480/576 sources during
import results in incorrect aspect ratio.
- Added HEVC/No resize ALTERNATE presets to
the default list for UHD output.
- Corrected the x: function in filtering so
it correctly finds and executes external
filters when ALTERNATE titles are added to
a batch filter via "Add multiple playlists
to queue".
- Fixed an error introduced in v0.60.02 that
forced AVISYNTH mode rather than FFMPEG
for frame serving when testing UHD backups.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Thank you! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/respect.gif

[MrVideo]

Changes for this release:- Fixed an error in which particularly odd
variable framerate sources might result
in incorrect framerates during import.
- Fixed an error in which conversion from
VFR to CFR of 720x480/576 sources during
import results in incorrect aspect ratio.

Using the same test file that I sent you resulted in one of the items being fixed. The VFR->CFR resulted in 23.976 fps, but the aspect ratio was still 3:2.

If VFR is forced off, the frame rate is still 19.181.

[jdobbs]

Using the same test file that I sent you resulted in one of the items being fixed. The VFR->CFR resulted in 23.976 fps, but the aspect ratio was still 3:2.

If VFR is forced off, the frame rate is still 19.181. Weird. I tested it with the source you sent me and it seemed to work fine, although it did do a VFR to CFR conversion. I actually force the aspect ratio in the VFR-CFR reencode... how could it still be 3:2???

I may have to rethink this thing for 720x480 sources with pulldown. I just imported a movie from a DVD, output it to an MKV and then tried importing the MKV. I got the same alternating timecode intervals in that one too. It must be related to the pulldown somehow -- though I can't see how the spacing would look like that???

I may have to look for that pattern, and assume pulldown. But first I need to do a little more research.

I'll let this one run and see if I can repeat the framerate issue.

[MrVideo]

Weird. I tested it with the source you sent me and it seemed to work fine, although it did do a VFR to CFR conversion. I actually force the aspect ratio in the VFR-CFR reencode... how could it still be 3:2???
I took the VOB file, used TSMuxer to create a TS file and ran that through the latest version. I then looked at the M2TS file with Media info. I played it with VLC and yep, 3:2.
I may have to look for that pattern, and assume pulldown. But first I need to do a little more research.
Mediainfo says that it is 2:3 pulldown. No need to look for it, since mediainfo provides that info.

[jdobbs]

I took the VOB file, used TSMuxer to create a TS file and ran that through the latest version. I then looked at the M2TS file with Media info. I played it with VLC and yep, 3:2.

Mediainfo says that it is 2:3 pulldown. No need to look for it, since mediainfo provides that info.Yeah... but MEDIAINFO is also telling me it is variable framerate. One doesn't necessarily exclude the other.

[MrVideo]

From what we have seen, these two values have been working out: frame rate (23.976) and scan order (2:3 pulldown). At least for the test video when VOB converted to TS. The other is frame rate (variable), original frame rate (23.976) and scan order (2:3 pulldown). It seems that a variable frame is a false positive, even when the timecodes are all over the place. It sends one down the wrong rabbit hole.

As a side note, one of the DVDFab produced MKV files also resulted in a 3:2 aspect ratio when a VFR->CFR was done on it.

Oh, and it all comes down to what you said... DVDs can't have variable frame rate videos. It must either be 29.97 or 23.976 w/ 2:3 pulldown, because analog TVs only support 29.97 interlace video. Of course, that is moot with today's digital monitors/TVs.

IMHO, it was stupid that we kept the 29.97 frame rate when converting to digital broadcasting. I do not think there is an analog TV that wouldn't have been able to handle true 30 fps interlace video. But, that is moot too. That ship has sailed.

[jdobbs]

I figured out the 19.181 fps thing. When you mux a stream with 2:3 pulldown into the pseudo BD structure with TSMUXER the framerate has to be set to 29.97, not 23.976. If pulldown results in a 23.976 framerate, then it is assumed the underlying progressive rate must be 19.181. Duh...

[Glarioo]

Mediainfo: vbv-maxrate=35000 / vbv-bufsize=30000
Isn't that too low for a mkv uhd output?
TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000 in BDREBUILDER.INI has no effect, it stays at 35000/30000.

[jdobbs]

Mediainfo: vbv-maxrate=35000 / vbv-bufsize=30000
Isn't that too low for a mkv uhd output?
TWEAK_ALTERNATE=--vbv-maxrate 50000 --vbv-bufsize 50000 in BDREBUILDER.INI has no effect, it stays at 35000/30000.Yeah, maybe, depending on the chosen bitrate. I did most of my testing using a CRF in the low 20's -- and it was plenty for that. I'll take a look at it.

[Glarioo]

Yeah, maybe, depending on the chosen bitrate. I did most of my testing using a CRF in the low 20's -- and it was plenty for that. I'll take a look at it.

Thanks.
I did not "choose" the bitrate, BD Rebuilder did that ;)
I chose Alternate Movie-Only output - MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Intact Audio. Constant Rate Factor Output (CRF) was set to 17.

[MrVideo]

I figured out the 19.181 fps thing. When you mux a stream with 2:3 pulldown into the pseudo BD structure with TSMUXER the framerate has to be set to 29.97, not 23.976. If pulldown results in a 23.976 framerate, then it is assumed the underlying progressive rate must be 19.181. Duh...
That is a good one. I did notice with the GUI that if you remove pulldown, it changes the framerate to 23.976. But if you unselect remove pulldown, it doesn't set the framerate back to 29.97. If I would have continued, I would have discovered the 19.181 thing. Nice find.

[jdobbs]

That is a good one. I did notice with the GUI that if you remove pulldown, it changes the framerate to 23.976. But if you unselect remove pulldown, it doesn't set the framerate back to 29.97. If I would have continued, I would have discovered the 19.181 thing. Nice find.Yeah, I noticed that in TSMUXERs GUI, if you check the delete pulldown box, and then uncheck it -- it doesn't set things back, and can even cause a buffer error during it's attempt to mux.

[MrVideo]

AIUI, work on TSMuxer is no longer being done, so that bug will never get fixed.

[jdobbs]

AIUI, work on TSMuxer is no longer being done, so that bug will never get fixed.Yeah. Luckily I don't use the GUI, so I can set the parameters myself.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.60.04). Changes for this release:- Corrected issues with file import of MPEG2
sources that contain 2:3 pulldown flags.
- Added IMPORT_NO_PULLDOWN as a new hidden
option. When set it will remove pulldown
flags from MPEG-2 sources during import of
files or DVDs.
- Added two new hidden options. UHD_MAXRATE
sets the maximum bitrate for UHD encodes
and UHD_VBV_BUFFER sets the buffer size.
See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more information.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[MrVideo]

Changes for this release:- Corrected issues with file import of MPEG2
sources that contain 2:3 pulldown flags.
- Added IMPORT_NO_PULLDOWN as a new hidden
option. When set it will remove pulldown
flags from MPEG-2 sources during import of
files or DVDs.
Great. Thanks.

[Glarioo]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.60.04). Changes for this release:
- Added two new hidden options. UHD_MAXRATE
sets the maximum bitrate for UHD encodes
and UHD_VBV_BUFFER sets the buffer size.
See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more information.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.[/code]

Thank you! I Will try it when I get home.

[jdobbs]

Thank you! I Will try it when I get home.I also changed the default for UHD to 50000/50000. There are two maximums listed for a 50GB UHD M2TS, the lower of the two is a maximum of 64Mbs for all streams in a single M2TS (audio/video/graphics). So 50Mbs leaves about 14Mbs for overhead/audio/graphics.

[MrVideo]

- Added IMPORT_NO_PULLDOWN as a new hidden
option. When set it will remove pulldown
flags from MPEG-2 sources during import of
files or DVDs.
Wouldn't a better description be:
removes pulldown flags during import of MPEG2/DVD, keeping the original 23.976 frame rate
The reason is that IVTC is not really being done. Doing IVTC implies that the 29.97 fps video is sent thru a filter, like AVISynth, to extract the 23.976 frames and recode those frames. Removing the 2:3 pulldown flags doesn't do any recoding, thereby keeping the original MPEG-2 quality.

Just a thought.

A side note: I started working on another project and discovered some material was marked as variable frame rate 29.97. And there was material that was marked as variable frame rate 23.976 w/ 2:3 pulldown. All on the same DVD. Can't seem to make up their minds. :D

[MrVideo]

After three DVD files were imported, I then did the backup. Only the third M2TS file was wrapped into an MKV file, the first two M2TS files were ignored. Why is that?

[Sharc]

Wouldn't a better description be:
removes pulldown flags during import of MPEG2/DVD, keeping the original 23.976 frame rate
The reason is that IVTC is not really being done. Doing IVTC implies that the 29.97 fps video is sent thru a filter, like AVISynth, to extract the 23.976 frames and recode those frames. Removing the 2:3 pulldown flags doesn't do any recoding, thereby keeping the original MPEG-2 quality.

Just a thought.

A side note: I started working on another project and discovered some material was marked as variable frame rate 29.97. And there was material that was marked as variable frame rate 23.976 w/ 2:3 pulldown. All on the same DVD. Can't seem to make up their minds. :D

IVTC applies to hard-telecined material only which is different from soft-telecining based on flags.

[jdobbs]

After three DVD files were imported, I then did the backup. Only the third M2TS file was wrapped into an MKV file, the first two M2TS files were ignored. Why is that?It does one at a time. You have to choose which playlist to output to MKV.

When you import more than one at a time, do this:

1. Import multiple files. It creates a pseudo-structure with multiple menu entries. Let it finish importing.

2. From the mode menu, select the ALTERNATE method to be used (output format)

3. Go to the "Batch" tab.

3. Right-click on the queue area.

4. Select "Add multiple playlists to Queue"

5. From the list, choose the playlist(s) you want to output in the format you selected in step 2.

6. Push the "Batch Backup" button.

That way you can create multiple MKVs. I've imported as many as a hundred in a batch (multiple seasons of as series, for example).

[Mark_Venture]

UHD... smaller file size that I thought...

Wow... First off A+ @jdobbs for adding UHD to MKV support.

I did a few with 60.02, 3 and 4... using Alt Movie Only, CRF=20, Encoder+better(fast), "MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Intact Audio"

With i8700k cpu, it takes anywhere from 7-9hrs depending on the movie. HDR flags remain intact per media info. Playing the files via SPMC 16.7.4 on my FireTV Cube with my Sony XBR 4K TV, the TV reports HDR and colors look right (good).

I'm surprised at the file size. Its smaller than I expected. For example, Valerian And the City of a Thousand Planets compressed from 70gig down to 13gig. (70gig was using MakeMKV to rip to MKV file without compression/etc.)

While I managed to watch a few other 4K converts I did, and they looked better than internet streaming (UHD via VUDU) of the same titles, Valerian just finished over night so I didn't get to watch it yet. I can't wait to get a chance to see how good it looks after compressing like this.

[jdobbs]

UHD... smaller file size that I thought...

Wow... First off A+ @jdobbs for adding UHD to MKV support.

I did a few with 60.02, 3 and 4... using Alt Movie Only, CRF=20, Encoder+better(fast), "MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Intact Audio"

With i8700k cpu, it takes anywhere from 7-9hrs depending on the movie. HDR flags remain intact per media info. Playing the files via SPMC 16.7.4 on my FireTV Cube with my Sony XBR 4K TV, the TV reports HDR and colors look right (good).

I'm surprised at the file size. Its smaller than I expected. For example, Valerian And the City of a Thousand Planets compressed from 70gig down to 13gig. (70gig was using MakeMKV to rip to MKV file without compression/etc.)

While I managed to watch a few other 4K converts I did, and they looked better than internet streaming (UHD via VUDU) of the same titles, Valerian just finished over night so I didn't get to watch it yet. I can't wait to get a chance to see how good it looks after compressing like this.Actually I was surprised in my testing also. The UHD with a fixed CRF was shrinking much smaller than I had expected. But the quality was outstanding. It's just one more example of how superior X265 is to most HEVC encoders. It also shows how much wasted space is used on the original UHD discs (probably just to make them harder to copy).

Now... if I can find a way to get past that annoying audio sync issue when using TSMUXER to create UHD-BDs, I'll feel better. Interestingly, the higher the bitrate used the worse the sync issue gets. If I output several UHD movies to a single UHD disc (low bitrate as a result of a CRF of 23 or so) it seems to sync ok. I have to believe the whole issue is related to some X265 setting, although I have failed to find it. If I create a UHD disc from an untouched HEVC file (original, not reencoded) the bitrate doesn't seem to matter and the mux via TSMUXER followed by my UHD corrections works perfectly.

[MrVideo]

That way you can create multiple MKVs.
Thanks for the how-to instructions.

[AmigaFuture]

I have 5 pieces of 720x480 16:9 MPEG-2 video that I've added to a Blu-ray. But, when played on my Samsung BD player, it believes that the videos are 4:3.

When did your hardware start developing human repetitive patterns of thought (Believe)?

[AmigaFuture]

Yes it will via "Import DVD".

No, it won't...since I reported about Stargate DVDs.. Twice.. But I haven't checked it yet with the newest update..

Update: I now see there have been 2 Updates released. Woohoo! I'll check them soon. Pardon the reply..

[jdobbs]

No, it won't...since I reported about Stargate DVDs.. Twice.. But I haven't checked it yet with the newest update..

Update: I now see there have been 2 Updates released. Woohoo! I'll check them soon. Pardon the reply..??? I've imported more DVDs than I can count and I've never had an issue. The MPEG2 issues that are fixed in recent updates are related to file imports.

[MrVideo]

When did your hardware start developing human repetitive patterns of thought (Believe)?
It is called A.I. :eek:

[AmigaFuture]

It is called A.I. :eek:

A.I., and not even "Big Blue" are close to being Human. A.I. is based on complex code that people feed it (Keyboard, USB, some kind of physical connection). It will never think for itself. A.I. is based on Computer code. Not any way around it. Unless you're thinking there is some kind of External Port to us other than the 3rd eye? Which would mean the "UnSeen" but sensed by many. Okay, but A.I. will never say it has Past-Lives knowledge until it starts to clone itself. Every A.I. is New even to every new programmed A.I. People aren't. Complex and very fun subject.

But for your joke.. I Git Yaz...Havin' Fun N'all. :)

[jdobbs]

I know, I know, I have to revisit the DVDs.. I'll get there.Then I'd appreciate it if you didn't post comments about DVD import not working -- like this:No, it won't...since I reported about Stargate DVDs.. Twice.....especially about a function that has been working correctly for years. If you had a problem, I'm guessing it is something related to those particular DVDs... although I don't recall your specific bug report.

In the meantime I have some clueless-noob over on VIDEOHELP posting a review lambasting BD-RB for not working correctly in outputting UHD-BDs -- even through I've posted very clearly in the logs and this thread that it still has issues (including the one he complained about) and is meant to be experimental. That's exactly why I didn't post any updates for so long -- and now I wish I hadn't. In fact, I now have to consider walking away from it again. It seems that no matter how clear I am -- people fail to read or understand. I should have just disabled it rather than try to get help looking at it (after a long period of banging my head against the wall alone).

When you are doing work for free, just to provide a service to others... you have the right to at least expect a little common courtesy and appreciation for your labors.

If I sound pissed... it's because I am.

[Ch3vr0n]

Well there's a solution to that. Pull the UHD code and go back to non-UHD version for the general user, and only build an UHD version for yourself until you find it working correctly. And if you link to that specific review, i'm sure there's plenty users here that will post a reply telling him that uhd support is experimental and BDRB works just fine.

[jdobbs]

Well there's a solution to that. Pull the UHD code and go back to non-UHD version for the general user, and only build an UHD version for yourself until you find it working correctly. And if you link to that specific review, i'm sure there's plenty users here that will post a reply telling him that uhd support is experimental and BDRB works just fine.If I do that it will likely never work. The whole reason for releasing it was so I could get other eyes looking at it. I think a year is long enough for me trying to figure it out alone.

I'm just going to disable UHD-BD output by default with a popup "no can do" message. I'll then add a hidden option that will enable it so I can get some help from those who are well informed. I'll keep the UHD ALTERNATE output enabled.

[gonca]

I'm just going to disable UHD-BD output by default with a popup "no can do" message. I'll then add a hidden option that will enable it so I can get some help from those who are well informed. I'll keep the UHD ALTERNATE output enabled.
How about a point form list of the problems you are encountering so some of us can test various settings on each item.
This might help since we can then focus on one item at a time
PS
Make the message actually say "NO CAN DO"

[gonca]

Ran a couple of quick tests on the UHD stuff
Imported a full disc with quick re-author
I also cut a 5 minute section (original disc) of the main M2TS and remuxed as MKV with MKVToolNix
I ran an Import on both of these and they play fine, although with a 10 second delay on the audio.
According to mediainfo both audio tracks have a 10 sec delay where the originals had 83 ms and 0
No encoding took place, so this 10 sec delay is being added in the remux (I could be wrong)

[MrVideo]

In the meantime I have some clueless-noob over on VIDEOHELP posting a review lambasting BD-RB for not working correctly in outputting UHD-BDs
Did you post over there, pointing out the error of his ways?

[MrVideo]

How about a point form list of the problems ...
What is a "point form list?"

[gonca]

What is a "point form list?"

a)
b)
etc, or
1)
2)
etc, or
---
---
etc

How is the DVD thing going?

[MrVideo]

a)
b)
etc, or
1)
2)
etc, or
---
---
etc
Must be a Canadian thing to call it that. :D

[gonca]

Just for MrVideo
https://www.google.com/search?q=point+form+list&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

[MrVideo]

Just for MrVideo
https://www.google.com/search?q=point+form+list&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
Never heard of lists of that type called that.

[Max1984]

I m try to UHD TO BD25 with menu encoding to.. menu /sub/video all fine. just sync in audio . plzz tell me best audio setting & how to fix it. thanx ..

[jdobbs]

I m try to UHD TO BD25 with menu encoding to.. menu /sub/video all fine. just sync in audio . plzz tell me best audio setting & how to fix it. thanx ..I wish I knew. I've been struggling with that for almost a year now. That is why the UHD-BD function is considered "experimental" -- with a hope that someone catches something that might offer a solution.

[gonca]

Any idea why that 10 second audio delay is introduced during the muxing

[jdobbs]

Any idea why that 10 second audio delay is introduced during the muxingI'd have to see it to know. But... if BD-RB inserts a delay, it is because there is that much of a difference between the Presentation Time Stamp (PTS) of the first video packet and the PTS of the first audio packet. My guess would be it is caused by the way you cut it -- but, as I said, I'd only know if I could test the clip itself.

[jdobbs]

Just an update... I seem to be getting closer on the audio sync issue with UHD-BD -- at least based upon a small segment of a source I've been testing. I don't want to get too excited, though, as I've gotten to this point before only to find that the solution I implemented caused another problem when applied against a full movie. The unfortunate part is that it takes so long to encode, that it will usually take the better part of an entire day before I know whether it needs further tweaking. Then, if it does, there's another day to test that one!

[gonca]

I'd have to see it to know. But... if BD-RB inserts a delay, it is because there is that much of a difference between the Presentation Time Stamp (PTS) of the first video packet and the PTS of the first audio packet. My guess would be it is caused by the way you cut it -- but, as I said, I'd only know if I could test the clip itself.

That 10 second delay was present on both the full disc import (UHD) which had a 83ms delay, according to MediaInfo, and on the clip import, which had a 0ms delay, according to MediaInfo.
Might this delay have something to do with the audio sync issue others are reporting

If you wish I can cut the clip one more time and post it somewhere for you

[jdobbs]

That 10 second delay was present on both the full disc import (UHD) which had a 83ms delay, according to MediaInfo, and on the clip import, which had a 0ms delay, according to MediaInfo.
Might this delay have something to do with the audio sync issue others are reporting

If you wish I can cut the clip one more time and post it somewhere for youNo. The audio sync issues aren't related to that.

[MrVideo]

1. Import multiple files. It creates a pseudo-structure with multiple menu entries. Let it finish importing.
I suspect you mean to import into the batch queue.
2. From the mode menu, select the ALTERNATE method to be used (output format)
I'm guessing this step can be skipped if it was already set.
3. Go to the "Batch" tab.
4. Right-click on the queue area.
5. Select "Add multiple playlists to Queue"
6. From the list, choose the playlist(s) you want to output in the format you selected in step 2.
Well, at this point it is not as you expected. The first time I did this, only one of the three playlists was given. Knowing as to how you like to have options for minimum minutes, I went looking and found MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS. The default is 15, which explained the one item, which is 16 min+. So, I added the option and set it to "1". Now nothing shows up.

UPDATE: Now I am really confused. I removed the option and there is still nothing.

[AmigaFuture]

Then I'd appreciate it if you didn't post comments about DVD import not working -- like this:...especially about a function that has been working correctly for years. If you had a problem, I'm guessing it is something related to those particular DVDs... although I don't recall your specific bug report.

[...]
If I sound pissed... it's because I am.

Ack!! I should have removed the post. I'll do that next. It wasn't meant to come across the way it was read by you, and I understand why it seems as it was. Pardon for not being clearer and not removing it.

[AmigaFuture]

Did you post over there, pointing out the error of his ways?

It's not me, there.

I edited my reply here.. I wasn't really annoyed or bothered THAT much, only commenting but I see how it WAS taken. Not my intent at all. Also had some personal stuff happening that I allowed to reflect some of my reply. Oops! I don't have any problems owning my own goofs.

@JD

Pardon, Boss. My reply should have been considered better and I accept the reason you became pissed. Respect!

[jdobbs]

@JD

Pardon, Boss. My reply should have been considered better and I accept the reason you became pissed. Respect!Ain't no big thing brother. Peace.

[jdobbs]

I suspect you mean to import into the batch queue.No. I meant import into a pseudo-BD structure. Select "Import video files", select all the MKVs you want to import, and let it bring them in. Then when they have been imported, follow the rest of the instructions.

[AmigaFuture]

Ain't no big thing brother. Peace.

Ehhhh...it matters to me. Appreciate the reply.

[AmigaFuture]

I downloaded the new release. I haven't gotten to the Stargate DVDs yet. However, I figured I'd check "Role Models" BD..the Extra I typed about before. I see it's still the same. I'm not upset. :)

Making an MKV of the Extra..
----------------------
[10/22/18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.04
[21:00:51] Source: ROLE_MODELS_[UNRATED]_ANYDVD_(PROCESSED)_00100
- Input BD size: 5.80 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:49:49.819]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:00:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:00:54] Processing: VID_00361 (1 of 81)
- [21:00:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00361]
- [21:02:11] Reencoding video [VID_00361]
- [21:02:11] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:02:11] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [21:02:11] Processing: VID_00362 (2 of 81)
- [21:02:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00362]
- [21:02:18] Reencoding video [VID_00362]
- [21:02:18] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[...]
- [21:07:41] Processing: VID_00441 (80 of 81)
- [21:07:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00441]
- [21:07:44] Reencoding video [VID_00441]
- [21:07:44] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:07:44] Processing: VID_00442 (81 of 81)
- [21:07:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00442]
- [21:07:49] Reencoding video [VID_00442]
- [21:07:49] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[21:07:49]PHASE ONE complete
[21:07:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:07:49] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 0
[21:10:12] - Failed to REBUILD

I've re-ripped sevvvvveral times. Same result. If I make a BD of the extra, that goes well. When I play the resulting BD..there is an out of sync that happens as part of the multi-part extra. "Coffee Shop" is where the out of sync happens. If I make an MKV of that BD extra, the out of sync remains. If you want a log, that doesn't show any errors...I shall provide.

I don't remember which files you want to look at anymore. Remind me and I'll attach them.

[MrVideo]

No. I meant import into a pseudo-BD structure. Select "Import video files", select all the MKVs you want to import, and let it bring them in. Then when they have been imported, follow the rest of the instructions.
Now you really have me confused. I'm trying to make MKV files from a DVD, as you've suggested, instead of using DVDFab.

I import into the Batch Queue from the DVD and select the three special features that I want made into MKVs. The result is as outlined in the post.
[22:08:17] Importing DVD: PRETTY_LITTLE_LIARS_SEASON1_D5
- Processing DVD title [1 of 9 ]
- Not kept, per user setting...
- Processing DVD title [2 of 9 ]
- Not kept, per user setting...
- Processing DVD title [3 of 9 ]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [4 of 9 ]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [5 of 9 ]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [6 of 9 ]
- Not kept, per user setting...
- Processing DVD title [7 of 9 ]
- Not kept, per user setting...
- Processing DVD title [8 of 9 ]
- Not kept, per user setting...
- Processing DVD title [9 of 9 ]
- Not kept, per user setting...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[22:09:43] DVD import completed successfully.

[jdobbs]

Now you really have me confused. I'm trying to make MKV files from a DVD, as you've suggested, instead of using DVDFab.

I import into the Batch Queue from the DVD and select the three special features that I want made into MKVs. The result is as outlined in the post.Yeah, my mistake, I forgot you are importing DVDs. But... still the same answer. Don't use batch import, that was a bad assumption. Use "Import DVD(s)...". That will import the DVD into a BD structure and make it the current project. Importing to batch doesn't do that, and the settings in steps 2-6 wouldn't apply, since they only affect the current job. When the import is complete -- follow the remaining instructions:

2. From the mode menu, select the ALTERNATE method to be used (output format)
3. Go to the "Batch" tab.
4. Right-click on the queue area.
5. Select "Add multiple playlists to Queue"
6. From the list, choose the playlist(s) you want to output in the format you selected in step 2.
7. Push the "Batch Backup" button.

You may want to clear the queue before you start now (to clear out the previous "Import to Batch" jobs.

You can save yourself some time by importing an entire season of DVDs at once. If you want to import multiple DVDs all at once, just put them all in a single folder, like this, for example:

Create a folder called "\MY_SERIES_SEASON1"

Then under that folder -- put folders containing each of the component DVDs, for example:
\MY_SERIES_SEASON1\MY_SERIES_SEASON1_D1
\MY_SERIES_SEASON1\MY_SERIES_SEASON1_D2
\MY_SERIES_SEASON1\MY_SERIES_SEASON1_D3
\MY_SERIES_SEASON1\MY_SERIES_SEASON1_D4
\MY_SERIES_SEASON1\MY_SERIES_SEASON1_D5

Then you could go to "Import DVD(s)" and select "\MY_SERIES_SEASON1" -- and it will import all the DVDs into a single BD structure. Then you can perform steps 2-7 and do the entire season at one time. Of course doing multiple discs at a time assumes you rip to your hard drive rather than reading directly from a DVD.

[jdobbs]

I downloaded the new release. I haven't gotten to the Stargate DVDs yet. However, I figured I'd check "Role Models" BD..the Extra I typed about before. I see it's still the same. I'm not upset. :)

Making an MKV of the Extra..


I've re-ripped sevvvvveral times. Same result. If I make a BD of the extra, that goes well. When I play the resulting BD..there is an out of sync that happens as part of the multi-part extra. "Coffee Shop" is where the out of sync happens. If I make an MKV of that BD extra, the out of sync remains. If you want a log, that doesn't show any errors...I shall provide.

I don't remember which files you want to look at anymore. Remind me and I'll attach them.I guess I'll need to pick up that disc to see if I can repeat the issue. Does this Amazon link (https://www.amazon.com/Models-Blu-ray-Seann-William-Scott/dp/B001OD4S5A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1540290464&sr=8-1&keywords=role+models+blu+ray) appear to be the disc you are having the issue with?

[MrVideo]

Crap, I keep getting:
Run-time error '52':
Bad file name or number
I've even rebooted the computer. It isn't a problem reading the disc as it read previously. Plus, I'm currently copying the contents to the HDD.

UPDATE: You ready for this crap. The disc that I was using, a copy of the original, now has corruption errors reading two of the IFO files. I had to borrow an original disc because my personal copy was not readable. I made another copy and read from that to the HDD.
BDRB likes it.

But, after importing the DVD items that I wanted, the batch queue is empty. This is getting frustrating.

If I import to batch queue, the disc is listed in the batch queue, but as previously mentioned, the list is empty. So, I tried again, after clearing the batch queue, to just import the DVD, but nothing in the batch queue.

I took the original DVD over to the XP-64 box, same result,

Here is my INI:
[Options]
VERSION=0.60.0.4
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=1
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=2
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=10
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=10
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
MENU_BACKGROUND=E:\BD-Rebuilder\PrettyLittleLiars\Season-1\PrettyLittleLiars_S1_D1_Bkg.jpg
MENU_AUDIO=E:\BD-Rebuilder\PrettyLittleLiars\Season-1\PrettyLittleLiars-opening_theme.ac3
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=0
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=0
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=0
MENU_AUTO_DVDAUDIO=1
MENU_FORCE_QUICK=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1
IMPORT_LIMIT_LANG=0
IMPORT_KEEP_PLAYALL=1
IMPORT_VFR_SCAN=0
FORCE_NOENCODE=0
MENU_FONT=Century Gothic
MENU_FONT_BOLD=0
MENU_FONT_ITALIC=0
MENU_VERTICAL=500
MENU_HORIZONTAL=600
MENU_ACTIVE_COLOR=0xCFCFCF
MENU_CUSTOM_COLOR=
MENU_INACTIVE_COLOR=0x808080
MENU_BACKDROP_OPACITY=0
MENU_ROLLOVER=1
MENU_ITEMS_PAGE=6
MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
IMPORT_VFR_FILM=0
IMPORT_VFR_DISABLE=0
IMPORT_NO_PULLDOWN=1
AVSFilter01=selectevery(2,0)
IMPORT_PREPARE_MKV=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=28
ALTCRF=23
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALT_CRF_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=E:\BD-REBUILDER\WORK\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGAVCDec
NV\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGAVCDecNV\DGDecodeNV.dll
[Batch]
MAIN_MPLS=.MPLS
MAIN_MPLS_ANGLE=0
FORCED_SUB=0
FORCED_AUD=0
AUDIO=
SUBS=

[MrVideo]

I haven't gotten to the Stargate DVDs yet.
I have all of the Stargate DVDs. Remind me... what is the issue with them? Any particular season, or can I just test using S1-D1?

[jdobbs]

Crap, I keep getting:
Run-time error '52':
Bad file name or number
I've even rebooted the computer. It isn't a problem reading the disc as it read previously. Plus, I'm currently copying the contents to the HDD.

UPDATE: You ready for this crap. The disc that I was using, a copy of the original, now has corruption errors reading two of the IFO files. I had to borrow an original disc because my personal copy was not readable. I made another copy and read from that to the HDD.
BDRB likes it.

But, after importing the DVD items that I wanted, the batch queue is empty. This is getting frustrating.

If I import to batch queue, the disc is listed in the batch queue, but as previously mentioned, the list is empty. So, I tried again, after clearing the batch queue, to just import the DVD, but nothing in the batch queue.Please read and follow the instructions (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1855787#post1855787) I gave exactly. When you import, it just imports. All you have then is a BD structure that contains everything you imported. Nothing is in the queue. The jobs aren't added to the queue until you complete steps 5 and 6.

[MrVideo]

The jobs aren't added to the queue until you complete steps 5 and 6.
The first time I imported the DVD, the single entry appeared in the batch queue. That is when I went looking for the minimum minutes thing, because only one of the three entries was there. I have to clue how that entry got there. That is what had me fooled.

Things are better now. One for you and one for me today. :D

BTW, when the importing was done, the stream list only showed one of the three items I imported. But all three are there being worked on.

[jdobbs]

BTW, when the importing was done, the stream list only showed one of the three items I imported. But all three are there being worked on.That's the way it is supposed to work. Since movie-only ALTERNATE output is selected, only one playlist can be selected at a time (to output to MKV). So it chose the largest by default. Typically on a BD there is only one playlist you care about (the main feature) when outputting in movie-only mode. If you selected full backup they would all show up -- but, of course, you wouldn't be outputting to MKV in full backup mode, you would be reencoding to BD format.

If you want to create an MKV from more than one playlist, you would run each job individually and select "Other Movie-Only Playlist" between jobs to work with a different playlist -- or you could select each one, add it to the queue, then select the next, do that same, etc.

That's fine for a short list of jobs... but when you are doing a lot it can be a nightmare. That's why I created "Add multiple playlists..."

When you add multiple playlists to the queue, it actually creates a job for each selected playlist -- just like selecting a playlists and adding them to the queue -- but it adds them automatically. Then when you run in batch mode you are actually running a separate job for each playlist individually.

[MrVideo]

Since movie-only ALTERNATE output is selected, only one playlist can be selected at a time (to output to MKV). So it chose the largest by default.
Ah, OK, thanks for the update.

[AmigaFuture]

I guess I'll need to pick up that disc to see if I can repeat the issue. Does this Amazon link (https://www.amazon.com/Models-Blu-ray-Seann-William-Scott/dp/B001OD4S5A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1540290464&sr=8-1&keywords=role+models+blu+ray) appear to be the disc you are having the issue with?

I'll cover you on it. :-) Nice that the price is lower than I paid.

[AmigaFuture]

Crap, I keep getting:
Run-time error '52':
Bad file name or number
I've even rebooted the computer. It isn't a problem reading the disc as it read previously. Plus, I'm currently copying the contents to the HDD.

YAY!! Someone else got the error I often see when Importing MKVs (made by BD-RB). I found that deleting WORKFILES, IMPORT after exiting helps a lot. If I leave the IMPORT there from previous jobs, yep...get a Runtime error often.

I have all of the Stargate DVDs. Remind me... what is the issue with them? Any particular season, or can I just test using S1-D1?

Umm...thinking.. It's been a while. All the decoders except DirectshowSource squished the 16:9 video to 4:3 on the sides. But it didn't happen when importing DVD... After I had BD-RB convert each Episode to MKV for Season 1 and 2. I'll find the HD I left off with, and have another look soon. Maybe I'll have a Winter Solstice present for my Mother...that was intended for 2 years ago (not a big deal).

[MrVideo]

YAY!! Someone else got the error I often see when Importing MKVs (made by BD-RB). I found that deleting WORKFILES, IMPORT after exiting helps a lot. If I leave the IMPORT there from previous jobs, yep...get a Runtime error often.
In this case it didn't like the DVD copy I had made. It was an ISO copy as well. When I put in the original disc, the error went away. Of course it was an ISO copy, minus the copy protection.

[jdobbs]

I'll cover you on it. :-) Nice that the price is lower than I paid.Thanks! Ordered this morning, arrives Friday.

[Devilman1]

Hi I have also an UBP-X800 and I reduced a 54 GByte UHD disc to a 50 GB dual layer Blu-ray removing nothing, but when I play the burned blu-ray on the Sony player I have a lot of artifacts (green lines/square, etc) since the beginning of the movie.
These artifacts are not present in the copy on my HD or when I play the same burned disc on the Blu-ray player of the PC even USB.

Could it be a problem of the encoding settings?

I burned the disc on a BD-RE, could it be a problem for the standalone player?

[AmigaFuture]

Thanks! Ordered this morning, arrives Friday.

Nod. You're welcome. :)

Others...especially any lurkers, Donate!

[Lathe]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.60.04). Changes for this release:- Corrected issues with file import of MPEG2
sources that contain 2:3 pulldown flags.
- Added IMPORT_NO_PULLDOWN as a new hidden
option. When set it will remove pulldown
flags from MPEG-2 sources during import of
files or DVDs.
- Added two new hidden options. UHD_MAXRATE
sets the maximum bitrate for UHD encodes
and UHD_VBV_BUFFER sets the buffer size.
See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for more information.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.


Thanks Boss!

BTW, when the HELL are you ever simply gonna setup a 'PayJDNOW@gmail.com' so that we can just start sending you some damn money???!!

Are we gonna hafta start getting rough...? https://forum.blu-ray.com/images/smilies/imported/baseballbat.gif

[AmigaFuture]

Not to start some big commentary on it, but I did think there has to be a better way to link to the page, at least. You might want to consider a simpler way than to expect the masses to remember the Email address. Good note though when informing people.

[jdobbs]

Just thought I'd post an update. I have some more testing to do... but I think I may be very close to completing the UHD-BD module. After a couple of setbacks since my last update (I fixed the sync issue -- and the fix created a video stutter problem) After some testing it looks like I've gotten past all the major issues and am doing some testing to make sure it is consistent. My final tests are related to what bitrate BD-25/50 can actually provide without issues... Look for a new release in a day or two.

[kufo]

Thanks for the good news. I am glad that you have not stuck your head in the sand with the problems with UHD:thanks:

[Lathe]

Just thought I'd post an update. I have some more testing to do... but I think I may be very close to completing the UHD-BD module. After a couple of setbacks since my last update (I fixed the sync issue -- and the fix created a video stutter problem) After some testing it looks like I've gotten past all the major issues and am doing some testing to make sure it is consistent. My final tests are related to what bitrate BD-25/50 can actually provide without issues... Look for a new release in a day or two.

U Da Man! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif



Of course... you da man...

... WITHOUT THE F**#'n GMAIL PAYPAL ADDRESS TO SEND YOU MONEY!!!!!!!!!! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/angry.gif :angry: http://lathe-of-heaven.com/angry.gif

[AmigaFuture]

Lathe, the Parrot drink is sweet I agree, but...but I think you've had enough for today. ;-)

[Lathe]

lathe, the parrot drink is sweet i agree, but...but i think you've had enough for today. ;-).



:)

[AmigaFuture]

.

:)

OOOohhhhhhhhhhh...it's that times of month for you. Pardon the drink reference. We...Understand....

[Lathe]

OOOohhhhhhhhhhh...it's that times of month for you. Pardon the drink reference. We...Understand....

Oh boy... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/rolleyes2.gif

Cute...

[AmigaFuture]

Oh boy... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/rolleyes2.gif

Cute...

*Pats you on the back..with a Smile.* Glad you take things so well. Heh. Heh. Heh. You're alright.

[Lathe]

*Pats you on the back..with a Smile.* Glad you take things so well. Heh. Heh. Heh. You're alright.

Uh huh... especially considering that it is that 'time'... :sly:

[AmigaFuture]

All right...obviously, this is what happens when you mix the Parrot drink and hormones treatment.

[Lathe]

All right...obviously, this is what happens when you mix the Parrot drink and hormones treatment.

"I have a right to be a woman. I want to have babies"

"But, you can't..."

"You're oppressing me!"

"No, I'm not... There is no womb... There's no place for the fetus to gestate!"

(any guesses...?)

[jdobbs]

Just thought I'd post an update. I have some more testing to do... but I think I may be very close to completing the UHD-BD module. After a couple of setbacks since my last update (I fixed the sync issue -- and the fix created a video stutter problem) After some testing it looks like I've gotten past all the major issues and am doing some testing to make sure it is consistent. My final tests are related to what bitrate BD-25/50 can actually provide without issues... Look for a new release in a day or two.Another update. My testing turned up another "stutter" glitch... so I'm working on a fix for that now. I'm hopeful I can put my finger on the cause of that one soon. I'll let you know what I find and when to expect another release.

[Lathe]

Another update. My testing turned up another "stutter" glitch... so I'm working on a fix for that now. I'm hopeful I can put my finger on the cause of that one soon. I'll let you know what I find and when to expect another release.

Thank you!

[AmigaFuture]

"I have a right to be a woman. I want to have babies"

"But, you can't..."

"You're oppressing me!"

"No, I'm not... There is no womb... There's no place for the fetus to gestate!"

(any guesses...?)

Almost seemed like a funky Monty Python sketch.

[Lathe]

Almost seemed like a funky Monty Python sketch.

DING, DING DING! (and, no, that is not the sound of gonca doing something dubious with himself...)

Yep, very good mate! :) It is one of the MANY great scenes from the absolutely hilarious film 'LIFE OF BRIAN'

[AmigaFuture]

The Python really enjoyed busting Catholic controlling goofy methods/hypocrisy. Celeb[R]ate life rather than prime kids for...anyway, yeah. There was a big ta-do about that recently in the news here. Some Catholic stuff was exposed not long ago, and the once were kids were talking about it and a great deal of anger. How the hee-haa does that Religion still exist?!?! Oy...

I hear DING, DING, DING at times and think Dinner. But, what's the prize?!? Huh? I'm all excited now...Mentally!! (Wanna stop any other references you might try to consider.)

Now I should find the Stargate files...

[Rich86]

Problem: Converting BD to DVD - BDRB release 60.04
Title: "Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again" - BD from 4K USA release set ripped to hard disc to input to BDRB.
I selected the main title playlist to output to DVD5, choosing the 1st english lossless audio stream, and 2 english subtitles to include.
The program extracted streams to the Workfiles just fine, but when it goes into the reencoding stage it immediately fails (even brought up the Microsoft Windows "do you want to report the failure to Microsoft" box).
I reinstalled 60.02 - it behaves exactly the same way.
I reinstalled 50.25 - it initiates and runs the reencoding process just fine, but fails at the very end with a cannot mux type message (this type problem was previously reported and discussed).
I ran the very same input folders/files into multiAVCHD 4.1 and it created my DVD5 just fine.

[jdobbs]

Problem: Converting BD to DVD - BDRB release 60.04
Title: "Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again" - BD from 4K USA release set ripped to hard disc to input to BDRB.
I selected the main title playlist to output to DVD5, choosing the 1st english lossless audio stream, and 2 english subtitles to include.
The program extracted streams to the Workfiles just fine, but when it goes into the reencoding stage it immediately fails (even brought up the Microsoft Windows "do you want to report the failure to Microsoft" box).
I reinstalled 60.02 - it behaves exactly the same way.
I reinstalled 50.25 - it initiates and runs the reencoding process just fine, but fails at the very end with a cannot mux type message (this type problem was previously reported and discussed).
I ran the very same input folders/files into multiAVCHD 4.1 and it created my DVD5 just fine.50.25 had no support for BD-UHD, so that is no surprise. I'll have to look at why DVD output didn't work in the latest versions.

[Rich86]

50.25 had no support form BD-UHD, so that is no surprise. I'll have to look at why DVD output didn't work in the latest versions.

My post was not clear enough I think . . I was using the 1080P BD disc from my 4K set - not the 4K disc.

Problem: Converting BD to DVD - BDRB release 60.04
I did another test run. I installed 60.04
Title: "Ant-Man and the Wasp" - 1080P BD disc out of my 4K USA release set ripped to hard disc to input to BDRB.
I selected the main title playlist to output to DVD5, choosing the 1st english lossless audio stream, and 1st english subtitles to include.
The program extracted streams to the Workfiles just fine, but when it entered the reencoding stage it immediately failed.
I reinstalled 50.25 - it initiated and ran everything perfectly fine on this title creating the DVD5 with no problems.

[AmigaFuture]

I'm back to checking the Stargate DVDs and the files I made.

I get this error once in a while when importing MKVs. 87GB free, there isn't anything locking the path or files. Aside from BD-RB. When I exit BD-RB after this, delete IMPORTS, TEMPIMPORT then it'll all import well. I often have to delete them before it'll all go fine.

Hmm.. I didn't consider this until now because I don't have any problems with Directory Opus 11.5 that I've ever encountered. But I'll exit that program and then run BD-RB with a few re-imports and report back..

[MrVideo]

Hmm.. I didn't consider this until now because I don't have any problems with Directory Opus 11.5 that I've ever encountered. But I'll exit that program and then run BD-RB with a few re-imports and report back..
Oops! Apples and oranges. Ya, having another program running that is a desktop file manager could indeed be the issue. What you described has never happened to me, i.e., having to delete the working directories.

[AmigaFuture]

The File most powerful File Manager around didn't do it. I have it exited totally, and I've been importing and importing, and re-importing and then exited a few times, after and then doing it again and just notice the same error. I didn't delete the directories, went back to importing....and I'll check if it happens again. I'm sure it will.

@ MrVideo

It's an all around File Manager, it does a great deal more than only that. :-)

[MrVideo]

The File most powerful File Manager around didn't do it. I have it exited totally, and I've been importing and importing, and re-importing and then exited a few times, after and then doing it again and just notice the same error. I didn't delete the directories, went back to importing....and I'll check if it happens again. I'm sure it will.
Is it only the Stargate SG-1 DVDs that are giving you trouble?

[AmigaFuture]

Heh... BD disc.. Is the same as saying, "Go to the ATM machine." Blu-ray Disc Disc; Automatic Teller Machine machine...

@ MrVideo

I shall answer that soon...I have dug into some of my archives to check. I don't do much with DVDs anymore. I'll test soon with my Max Headroom DVDs. As well as some others. Mostly, I found that VideoReDo has a sweet DVD Import, appreciation to you. I had previously only been using it to edit.

[AmigaFuture]

So far, it seems that...if I delete a directory in IMPORTS *related* to a previous Import then BD-RB does okay. Example, if I import some MKVs from within a directory and I'm testing, checking the Menu in various ways..the error occurs if I DON'T delete the "Name of the Directory" that is used as "The Name of the Disc".

If I let it be a few times (don't delete the directory from IMPORTS before I import some more; replacing the directory and contents), then Bing or a *DING* (Nod to Lathe) happens and a Run-time error as I shared happens. Hmm.. I'm checking this a bit..now..

Edit Update: It was going well for a while, but then...that error happened. Ah, well. Hmm..

[MrVideo]

What M$ version are you using? I've never had to delete any working directory in IMPORTS. That said, I do tend to rename them to more match the situation, i.e., SEASON 1 to Program_Name-S1-D1. But, when I am testing to see if the font I want is being used, then I do not bother to do any renaming.

[jdobbs]

Heh... BD disc.. Is the same as saying, "Go to the ATM machine." Blu-ray Disc Disc; Automatic Teller Machine machine...

@ MrVideo

I shall answer that soon...I have dug into some of my archives to check. I don't do much with DVDs anymore. I'll test soon with my Max Headroom DVDs. As well as some others. Mostly, I found that VideoReDo has a sweet DVD Import, appreciation to you. I had previously only been using it to edit.Just FYI. I got the "Role Models" BD last Friday, but I haven't gotten to it yet. I've been busy banging my head against the wall with UHD-BD. I'm going to have company for the next several days... so it may not be until after then that I will actually test them.

Definition of a computer programmer: Someone who bangs his/her head against the wall, only so they can feel the pleasure of relief when they stop.

[AmigaFuture]

What M$ version are you using? I've never had to delete any working directory in IMPORTS. That said, I do tend to rename them to more match the situation, i.e., SEASON 1 to Program_Name-S1-D1. But, when I am testing to see if the font I want is being used, then I do not bother to do any renaming.

Not a method I use but I understand. Cool. Windoze 7 Pro 64-Bit. I won't install to 8 or 10 for daily personal use. ;-)

Just FYI. I got the "Role Models" BD last Friday, but I haven't gotten to it yet. I've been busy banging my head against the wall with UHD-BD. I'm going to have company for the next several days... so it may not be until after then that I will actually test them.

Definition of a computer programmer: Someone who bangs his/her head against the wall, only so they can feel the pleasure of relief when they stop.

Haaahaaahaaa, yeah, I've heard something like that before from other programmers. I remember hanging with some Amiga programmers also, who did the same. Company!!?? Naah, naahh...that'ssss...not Okay! *Tapping foot..* I expect it to be DONE NOW after all my...dona...

Yeah, not a worry. Enjoy your Samhain or ("Halloween") and have a look then. As I typed before, it's not a big deal, I'm much more curious as to why and I think it'll help make other "problematic" BDs solved. Playlist 00100 in BD-RB is the one in question when you do.

[videoh]

Definition of a computer programmer: Someone who bangs his/her head against the wall, only so they can feel the pleasure of relief when they stop. I saw a Youtube video entitled "5 Reasons Not to Be a SW Developer". Number 1 was "It's very hard."

[AmigaFuture]

If you have a passion for it it can still be challenging. Many love that challenge. Geddy Lee of the extremely well know and influential band Rush calls what he does his favorite headache. :-)

[Glarioo]

Jdobbs... You can be the captain, Sailing into destiny, Closer tot the heart...

[AmigaFuture]

It's time for a new BD burner - not player. I have an ASUS internal Optical that's having a lot of challenges. Did the disc cleaning, and all..that but it's starting to have more problems with burning DL and ejecting the tray. I use the same media, and that hasn't changed. So I think it's time for something new. I trust you all here except for Lathe. Ha! Nahh... Ha. Any recommendations? I use MKVs on HD and BDs at times, but girlfriend still (and so do I) loves the menus and her older BD player doesn't support USB. Which is cool with us.

[AmigaFuture]

Oy.....fantastic song, but please pick something further into the vault. HAH!

[MrVideo]

Not a method I use but I understand. Cool. Windoze 7 Pro 64-Bit.
Then I do not know why you are having trouble, while I, and I suspect others, do not. I'm not trouble free, just different troubles. :D

[MrVideo]

So I think it's time for something new. Any recommendations?
I use Pioneer in all of my computers.

[AmigaFuture]

Then I do not know why you are having trouble, while I, and I suspect others, do not. I'm not trouble free, just different troubles. :D

I'm wondering why it is also. I'll check with VMWare Workstation soon...Perhaps there is something else causing a problem in the background. Either that or I'll check with my Notebook soon since I don't have any frizzles installed there.

The LG reviews through Amazon are....Okay. I'll check Pioneer. Does your Pioneer support CD ripping and checking? My ASUS never did that, but I do use a Sony drive for that which functions great for it. But would be a great bonus.

[omegaman7]

Amiga, I have a Pioneer BD-R-209D that I've had more than a year. Zero coasters. Though it's seen maybe 20 or 30 in that time.

I had O-K luck with LG. After about a hundred burns each on the two of them, they crapped out burns, but still read ok. But I currently only trust the Pioneer to burn.
Ugh... off to work.

Good luck ;)

Edited: sentence structure.

[AmigaFuture]

Luck doesn't exist but I understand your meaning. Good to seeeee you again!

I'm very much considering a Pioneer next. Zero coasters, but has seen 20 or 30 in that time?? The last seems to contradict the previous. Is that what you meant?

I'm noting LG Burners aren't....great quality, hmm.. But then many of them are "cheaper" drives. I'm going to go mid-range this time. 100 to 150$ or so, I think.

[jdobbs]

I use Pioneer in all of my computers.Same here... never an issue.

[MrVideo]

Does your Pioneer support CD ripping and checking?
Third party software is used to do CD/DVD/BD ripping. There is nothing the drive can do to stop it. Checking?

[omegaman7]

Luck doesn't exist but I understand your meaning. Good to seeeee you again!

I'm very much considering a Pioneer next. Zero coasters, but has seen 20 or 30 in that time?? The last seems to contradict the previous. Is that what you meant?

I'm noting LG Burners aren't....great quality, hmm.. But then many of them are "cheaper" drives. I'm going to go mid-range this time. 100 to 150$ or so, I think.

The Pioneer hasn't seen many since I've owned it. About 20 - 30. I guess It's "My precious" lol

My LG may be fine, but I see a slight hiccup, and I don't like trusting them anymore.

No contradiction, but I see that my sentence structure could have made that easier to interpret.

I try to check-in every now and again :)

[Rich86]

I have a LG BD burner in my tower, and a LG slim drive in an external case for my laptop. Both of those drives have been outstanding performers.
I've been using Ritek 4x inkjet printable BD-Rs for a long time in those drives with no coasters and excellent longevity. I burn them at 4x.
Writing software is exclusively ImgBurn.
For BD-RE: I have a handful of Fujifilm BD-REs I have been using for years in my LG burner reliably.
I also picked up a cakebox of Ritek BD-REs for cheap a while ago. They work ok, but tend to get fussy in my burner when pushing them to their limits (data size wise).

[Rich86]

My post was not clear enough I think . . I was using the 1080P BD disc from my 4K set - not the 4K disc.

Problem: Converting BD to DVD - BDRB release 60.04
I did another test run. I installed 60.04
Title: "Ant-Man and the Wasp" - 1080P BD disc out of my 4K USA release set ripped to hard disc to input to BDRB.
I selected the main title playlist to output to DVD5, choosing the 1st english lossless audio stream, and 1st english subtitles to include.
The program extracted streams to the Workfiles just fine, but when it entered the reencoding stage it immediately failed.
I reinstalled 50.25 - it initiated and ran everything perfectly fine on this title creating the DVD5 with no problems.

I did another test run with the 1080P BD from my "Skyscraper" 4K combo set choosing 1 english audio track and 1 english subtitle. I did not bother trying 60.04 - and went straight to 50.25. It failed towards the end of "Starting to MPLEX":
[21:32:59]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:32:59] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [21:32:59] Converting 1 subtitles to DVD format.
- [21:33:46] Starting MPLEX.
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MPLEX)
[21:35:37] - Failed to REBUILD
Then I used 50.25 to make a 50gb movie only BD from the source files including the engish audio and 1 subtitle. That ran fine and the resulting files play fine.
I tried making a DVD from the resulting BD movie folder that BDRB had created and it failed in the same manner/place described above.
Then I tried it again with no subtitles included . . still failed the same way.
Then I tried this one in multiAVCHD and it finished, but there is a huge out of sync between video and audio in the resulting DVD video. It looks like the video jumps frames in the beginning, maybe throwing off the A/V sync.
The source BD files ripped from my disc and created by BDRB 50.25 play fine.

Update:
Making a DVD from the "Skyscraper" BD - how I got it to work.
This title has an english Dolby Atmos track and no lossy english audio tracks other than commentaries.
I ripped the BD to hard disc (DVDFab64). I then created a movie only BD50 folder/files using BDRB and forcing BDRB to convert the audio to lossy Dolby Digital by unchecking everything under "Audio Encoding Options" in Setup. Then I used BDRB to create a DVD from those BD folder/files successfully.
It appears the process to create a DVD from a BD in BDRB cannot handle the lossless audio tracks in some titles?

[Zathor]

3.1 If you are running Windows 8 or Windows 10 you may need to run REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT. In the installation folder (you selected in step 3), right-click on the file "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" and select "Run as Administrator". You should only have to do this once.
The REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT does not work if you select "run as administrator" as it will then search for the dll in your windir. In order to have it always work please change the command to
regsvr32 "%~dp0MSCOMCTL.OCX"
Brackets may be required if there is a blank in the path.

Thank you very much for you work!

[Ch3vr0n]

Not needed, is the bat file command doesn't run as administrator, run BDRB executable as an administrator as specified in the setup instructions.

That's what I needed to do on win 10, there's ZERO need to change the path.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6P met Tapatalk

[LowDead]

It's time for a new BD burner - not player. I have an ASUS internal Optical that's having a lot of challenges. Did the disc cleaning, and all..that but it's starting to have more problems with burning DL and ejecting the tray. I use the same media, and that hasn't changed. So I think it's time for something new. I trust you all here except for Lathe. Ha! Nahh... Ha. Any recommendations? I use MKVs on HD and BDs at times, but girlfriend still (and so do I) loves the menus and her older BD player doesn't support USB. Which is cool with us.

I have used LGs and ASUS in the past. LG seems to have better firmwares. Asus have rebadged LGs inside so build quality is the same, but their firmwares are lacking in compability with different brands of blanks. Have had hiccups with all of them until I couldn' be bothered anymore and went with Pioneer BDR-S09XLT. I wish I did that sooner as I have been thinking about switching to Pioneer before.

So my advice is this: Don't think, just buy a Pioneer :D

[AmigaFuture]

Third party software is used to do CD/DVD/BD ripping. There is nothing the drive can do to stop it. Checking?

I get that. Some drives are better for CD (Audio) ripping than others. My ASUS BDs...not very good for it at all with CDs that *might* have some micro scratches. But my Sony DVD/CD drive does well with making attempts including passing C2 errors along via Easy CD-DA Extractor or Exact Audio Copy. Error reporting is what I meant by checking. :)

As for BD's..I have been reading about riplock..that's new to me. I guess I'm not well enough in the Know now these days. There's a slowing that happens when ripping is noticed with some drives. Looks like the Pioneers don't have it.

I have a LG BD burner in my tower, and a LG slim drive in an external case for my laptop. Both of those drives have been outstanding performers.
I've been using Ritek 4x inkjet printable BD-Rs for a long time in those drives with no coasters and excellent longevity.
Writing software is exclusively ImgBurn.

I wondered if those Ritek's are any good. Mostly I've been using Sony BD-RE's if we want to watch from BDs, and I've been wondering why they're Hit-N-Miss. I was buying Digitor for BD-Rs and they never fail, but the price was up a little more for the RE's by them than other BD-RE's... So, I avoided that route.

I took some Sony BD-RE's I've burned to someone I know who has the same LG player and they read pretty well. HMM!! I'm going to disassemble my LG player and clean the lens better than the CD cleaner does and check if that improves things.

I'll keep the Digistor and Ritek's in mind. Appreciate the reply.

I have used LGs and ASUS in the past. LG seems to have better firmwares. Asus have rebadged LGs inside so build quality is the same, but their firmwares are lacking in compability with different brands of blanks. Have had hiccups with all of them until I couldn' be bothered anymore and went with Pioneer BDR-S09XLT. I wish I did that sooner as I have been thinking about switching to Pioneer before.

So my advice is this: Don't think, just buy a Pioneer :D

Yep, that's where I'm heading.. I'm really thinking a combination of media and Optical drive are the problems here.

Great Tagline. Ha! Girlfriend said, "You have a B-day anniversary coming...so choose what you want to do." - Something I'm normally not at all interested in celebrating anymore; prefer every day being special rather than 1 or a couple through the year. But, she knows how to surprise and that can be very fun.

Appreciate the replies, all.

[AmigaFuture]

I'm starting to think my ASUS BD Burner has had problems for a while with media. When I burn to BD-RE (SL/DL) sometimes different video parts, not only the movie, have pauses in them. Such as an error of some kind is encountered. The video can seem to be paused while the Optical Player is attempting to get the data. Once it does, there's a short burst to get back into sync and then play resumes as normal. A while ago I thought maybe it's BD-RB not rebuilding correctly for some discs. But others would have reported that, for sure. So, it's either the media or the drive or both.

Opened my Player and cleaned the lens and it's accepting discs again, BD-REs and original but some of those video glitches remain with BD-RE, and I wondered if any of you encountered any of that from now to a long, long time ago? It's burner related and media, since JD also commented not any problems with his Pioneer. I'm going to locate one of the Pioneers mentioned and it should solve it all...and I'll keep my BD-RE for when I get it and check it. But for wonderment, I pose that question. :)

[omegaman7]

Amiga, I recall having problems with a Maxell DVD+RW. If I didn't do a complete erasure of the disc, there were problems. Verbatim never gave me the problem. But perhaps it was the burner that didn't like the media. I have a BD-RE from Sony that worked once, and never again. I think whatever data was burned to it, caused problems for acknowledgement of the disc from any reader at the time. I'm not sure if I threw it away, or it's simply stored.
Finicky things, media/burners lol

[AmigaFuture]

Oops.. I've been using Verbatim BD-RE DL for a while now with my LG BD Player, and ASUS BD Burner.. Switch over to Pioneer should solve it all, going by the replies here and reviews at Amazon. I'll check my not so favorite Store BestBuy to see about getting it locally. A lot do great Stores have gone bye, bye since Amazon got huge. :(

Yeah, I've been checking the reformat idea also since yesterday and before. Not any improvements. Sad Face. LOL.

[jdobbs]

Oops.. I've been using Verbatim BD-RE DL for a while now with my LG BD Player, and ASUS BD Burner.. Switch over to Pioneer should solve it all, going by the replies here and reviews at Amazon. I'll check my not so favorite Store BestBuy to see about getting it locally. A lot do great Stores have gone bye, bye since Amazon got huge. :(

Yeah, I've been checking the reformat idea also since yesterday and before. Not any improvements. Sad Face. LOL.Good idea. I hate giving advice on this kind of thing... but my Pioneer has lasted at least 3x longer than any of the previous LGs I had (several). Admittedly I do a lot more burning than most people and I thought that was the reason. But my Pioneer just keeps on trucking. Just my experience...

[kufo]

I had this trouble with Sony BD-RE too. I'm using an LG with original FW and an LG with Asus 3.02 FW. Both drives don't recognize the disc. This was already the 2nd Sony Disc with this behaviour.

[jdobbs]

I had this trouble with Sony BD-RE too. I'm using an LG with original FW and an LG with Asus 3.02 FW. Both drives don't recognize the disc. This was already the 2nd Sony Disc with this behaviour.I've used the same two Sony BD-RE discs for several years now, no idea how many burns I've done (probably hundreds). One of them finally failed in the last month. I certainly got my money's worth out of those discs. I ordered some Verbatim BD-RE's from Amazon (donation money) to replace them. It's amazing how inexpensive they've gotten since I bought them last.

[Blurayhd]

Hi all I need some help here, I have Deja Vu 2006 with without spanish subtitles (my first language and you know, I need it) I get subtitles in Spanish that fit on my movie but this subtitles when I watch on tv appears too big and I need to decrease the size of font, there´s some way to do that? So I´ll can encode it with Bd rebuilder?

Thank you in advance!!

[jdobbs]

Hi all I need some help here, I have Deja Vu 2006 with without spanish subtitles (my first language and you know, I need it) I get subtitles in Spanish that fit on my movie but this subtitles when I watch on tv appears too big and I need to decrease the size of font, there´s some way to do that? So I´ll can encode it with Bd rebuilder?

Thank you in advance!!What kind of subtitles? SRT, PGS, etc?

[Lathe]

I get that. Some drives are better for CD (Audio) ripping than others. My ASUS BDs...not very good for it at all with CDs that *might* have some micro scratches. But my Sony DVD/CD drive does well with making attempts including passing C2 errors along via Easy CD-DA Extractor or Exact Audio Copy. Error reporting is what I meant by checking. :)

As for BD's..I have been reading about riplock..that's new to me. I guess I'm not well enough in the Know now these days. There's a slowing that happens when ripping is noticed with some drives. Looks like the Pioneers don't have it.



I wondered if those Ritek's are any good. Mostly I've been using Sony BD-RE's if we want to watch from BDs, and I've been wondering why they're Hit-N-Miss. I was buying Digitor for BD-Rs and they never fail, but the price was up a little more for the RE's by them than other BD-RE's... So, I avoided that route.

I took some Sony BD-RE's I've burned to someone I know who has the same LG player and they read pretty well. HMM!! I'm going to disassemble my LG player and clean the lens better than the CD cleaner does and check if that improves things.

I'll keep the Digistor and Ritek's in mind. Appreciate the reply.



Yep, that's where I'm heading.. I'm really thinking a combination of media and Optical drive are the problems here.

Great Tagline. Ha! Girlfriend said, "You have a B-day anniversary coming...so choose what you want to do." - Something I'm normally not at all interested in celebrating anymore; prefer every day being special rather than 1 or a couple through the year. But, she knows how to surprise and that can be very fun.

Appreciate the replies, all.

FWIW, I've always used basic LG BD burners and I've literally burned 1000's of blanks from Amazon, mainly the printable BD25's and I've worn out maybe 2 burners so far. I always buy the same brand, Optical Quantum 50 packs. I will typically go through several hundred without a hitch, and then once in a GREAT while, maybe I will have a pack where I have 2-3 coasters. They are generally about $21 shipped Prime in 2 days (or one day if you order a bit more :))

***EDIT

Oh yeah, I forgot that once every few years or so I buy the same brand of printable BD-50's too. I just did a few days ago for the nice new 4k Remastered Studio Canal version of 'THE FOG' & the 4k versions of both '2001' & 'THE MATRIX' All burned just fine...

[AmigaFuture]

Good idea. I hate giving advice on this kind of thing... but my Pioneer has lasted at least 3x longer than any of the previous LGs I had (several). Admittedly I do a lot more burning than most people and I thought that was the reason. But my Pioneer just keeps on trucking. Just my experience...
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I haven't gone yet. I felt a nibble in the brain to check something, and so I did. 99% of the time I use ImgBurn, but this time I used my bought DAEMON Tools Ultra.. Though it states it's burning at 2.0x, I think it's more like 1.6 or slower (will time it soon). It doesn't give ANY indicators as ImgBurn...BUT!! I noticed a result.. The Verbatim discs are fine, at a slower burn. I'm running another burn with DAEMON Tools.. If that goes well, and the problems I noted above are gone again, I'll use ImgBurn the same way..change the speed to slower. That'll be an "Ahhh!!" moment.

JD, typically, do you notice 2.x burn speeds with your Pioneer? (Giggling, and I don't mean a Pioneer smoking pot...haha!)

[AmigaFuture]

LATHE!!! BD-RE DL, NOT BD-R........Stop sniffing the Parrots butt. LOL! "The Fog" and "2001", sweet movies. :)

[MrVideo]

I use Verbatim BD-RE/25 for testing. I've been using the same two discs for quite a while now. The BD/25 discs that I burn I do @ 6x.

[AmigaFuture]

I use Verbatim BD-RE/25 for testing. I've been using the same two discs for quite a while now. The BD/25 discs that I burn I do @ 6x.

Hmmm... Sweet to know. I was using BD-RE/25s for a while also, but I didn't want to rerender everything all the time. That and other life stuff happening.. Hmmm...6x is impressive.

JD,

Last test I did at about 3+ hours yielded a different result. But the differences in the tests are:

One was done from a previous BD-RB Processing. (Daemon Tools Ultimate burned an ISO made by ImgBurn outside of BD-RB.)

The other test, first one, same move, but processed the older processed again with recent version 60.04 of BD-RB , but excluded all the extras except the "Fox" intro (needed) to get a shorter burn time. This is the one that played "fine" and at a slower burn. I'm now checking it again with ImgBurn only. Locked at 2x, but shows as 0.9x.

[zargana]

Issues with UHD discs. Same failure on 4 UHDs i tried.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1atAH9KU0sgFZvoMcm74xqP6NKuCZIGyj

[Blurayhd]

What kind of subtitles? SRT, PGS, etc?

I forget that, in SRT

[jdobbs]

Issues with UHD discs. Same failure on 4 UHDs i tried.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1atAH9KU0sgFZvoMcm74xqP6NKuCZIGyjCan you please post the entire log? Thanks.

[MrVideo]

Hmmm... Sweet to know. I was using BD-RE/25s for a while also, but I didn't want to rerender everything all the time. That and other life stuff happening.. Hmmm...6x is impressive.
I don't do my jobs using BD/50, as those discs are more expensive than BD/25s. Even though the discs that I buy are rated for 6x, IMGBurn sometimes sees them being able to do 8x (depends on the brand). I don't do any faster than 6x.

The BD/REs just keep on ticking.

[zargana]

Can you please post the entire log? Thanks.----------------------
[11/04/18] BD Rebuilder v0.60.04
[13:09:16] Source: THE_MATRIX_REVOLUTIONS
- Input BD size: 62,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:18:49.529]
- Target BD size: 97,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:09:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:09:16] Processing: VID_00004 (1 of 2)
- [13:09:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [13:09:30] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- [13:09:30] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:09:30] Processing audio tracks
- [13:09:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00004.meta
- Can't open file: D:\WORK\WORKFILES\00004.track_4117.mpv
[13:09:34] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[jdobbs]

@zargana

This is from a UHD-BD? BD-RB seems to think the source is MPEG-2 rather than HEVC... I'll have to check that out -- but I've never seen anything like it before on my testing of UHD.

@everyone
A note to anyone testing UHD -- UHD backups are still very experimental right now.

[zargana]

@zargana

This is from a UHD-BD? BD-RB seems to think the source is MPEG-2 rather than HEVC... I'll have to check that out -- but I've never seen anything like it before on my testing of UHD.

Yes mate it is and it plays perfectly with DVDFab Player 5 and can be processed also with DVDfab. All Matrix UHDs i tried, failed. Also failed with other titles like 2001 Space Odyssey, Blade Runner..

BD-RB sees fine the UHD source is HEVC and not MPEG-2. Check here.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jRQ2qRehuhP--DxEma2s7UZZnSs1uKVJ

Please find the source for these errors. We need the strong BD-RB for the UHD era that is already here!
If you cant find full UHD sources for testing pm me.

[jdobbs]

Yes mate it is and it plays perfectly with DVDFab Player 5 and can be processed also with DVDfab. All Matrix UHDs i tried, failed. Also failed with other titles like 2001 Space Odyssey, Blade Runner..

BD-RB sees fine the UHD source is HEVC and not MPEG-2. Check here.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jRQ2qRehuhP--DxEma2s7UZZnSs1uKVJ

Please find the source for these errors. We need the strong BD-RB for the UHD era that is already here!
If you cant find full UHD sources for testing pm me.Can you post the contents of the MUX_00004.meta file? You should be able to just cut & paste it into a post here. I went through the code and can see no way what you posted can happen??? PiP maybe?

[Blurayhd]

What kind of subtitles? SRT, PGS, etc?

They are in SRT, any idea Jdobbs?

[jdobbs]

They are in SRT, any idea Jdobbs?Not much information to go with.

1. Are you playing it from BD or ALTERNATE source?
2. How did you merge the SRT with the original source?
3. Was the original source a BD or some other format?
4. If from other format -- was it imported with BD-RB?

A log can go a long way in helping...