BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[kufo]

[QUOTE=andref4;1822498]Hi jdobbs,

I have some encoding problems with a few new German/EU Reg. B Blu-Ray movies (see log). All movies are multipart and the 3D movie is multipart and multiangel! And the movies are all from Sony!
BAYWATCH, ARRIVAL and THE SMURFS THE LOST VILLAGE 3D.
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Similar problems for me. With Baywatch and Smurfs 3D ( Both region B )
Baywatch fails in exact these folder with about 27% while exracting audio. Had the same problem with xXx -Return of Xander Cage 3D.
This titele worked in a later redfox update two versions later.
I think the issue is multi angele for the Smurfs and the extended version in Baywatch. I ripped both untouched for testing. Arrival was without problems . The isue is in the ripping software, I think.

[jdobbs]

This titele worked in a later redfox update two versions later.That makes it clear where the issue is...

[Lathe]

I know we've talked about this before, but I can't remember seem to remember anything... I wonder why...?






http://lathe-of-heaven.com/shroom.gif

Oh yeah... that's probably why...

Seriously though, I'm trying to compress one of the old Avengers series discs. I don't do that too often, but in this case I want to keep the full menus and such. I can't seem to remember if there is a way to indicate which playlists / files are the Xtras so that you can tell BDRB to do those faster. But, if you just select 'faster encode for extras' which is what I would normally do with a movie, in this case I THINK with a series disc with like 3 or 4 episodes on it, BDRB will only encode the largest episode properly and then do everything else, including the OTHER episodes at a faster rate, right?

I tried being 'clever' and last night I chose 1 pass CRF to fit a BD-50 to a BD-25. The dang thing took like 18 hours! I was thinking of tonight trying a 1 pass ABR set at 'High', but then it will do EVERYTHING that way...

Any suggestions on how to speed up doing a full BD-50 series disc but still keeping high quality for the 3 or 4 episodes on the disc?

Thanks!

[Sharc]

.... I tried being 'clever' and last night I chose 1 pass CRF to fit a BD-50 to a BD-25. The dang thing took like 18 hours! I was thinking of tonight trying a 1 pass ABR set at 'High', but then it will do EVERYTHING that way...

Hmmm .... why not just try BD-RB in AUTO mode and tell us afterwards what quality difference you spot compared with your 18 hours CRF encode? ;)

[AmigaFuture]

I tried being "clever" and last night I chose 1 pass CRF to fit a BD-50 to a BD-25. The dang thing took like 18 hours! I was thinking of tonight trying a 1 pass ABR set at 'High', but then it will do EVERYTHING that way...

Any suggestions on how to speed up doing a full BD-50 series disc but still keeping high quality for the 3 or 4 episodes on the disc?

Thanks!

I don't think there is a way. I use 2-pass for a final rerender..always. Episode BDs, as far as I know and looking through the Hidden Options don't have a way to "quick" encode the extras. I think JD would have to add the ability to Flag extras for quick processing like movie BDs. Hmm..
I admit I've considered requesting this but I don't have many Episode BDs.

[gonca]

@Lathe
Any suggestions on how to speed up doing a full BD-50 series disc but still keeping high quality for the 3 or 4 episodes on the disc?

Get a decent computer

[Lathe]

Hmmm .... why not just try BD-RB in AUTO mode and tell us afterwards what quality difference you spot compared with your 18 hours CRF encode? ;)

Yeah, that is a good suggestion. Actually, I was gonna do that, but first I wanted to see why it took so long. Apparently my usual 'Tweaks' that I use with movies must have REALLY slowed it down way more than I thought! So, I removed the tweaks and re-ran BDRB with the same CRF / BD-25 setting on the 2nd disc in the series. Well, right away I noticed that instead of predicting around 4 or 5 hours an episode, that it now would be about 2 hours, which was a lot better and should finish the encode in 8-10 hours overnight instead of 18!

But, my next step would have been simply to set it to 'Automatic' and see what it did. But, this turned out okay. I don't do full disc encodes too often and when I do I suppose it would be with series discs like this IF I wanted to keep all episodes and menus, which with say STAR TREK: TNG that wasn't the case, where I only selected certain episodes and grouped them together.

[Lathe]

I don't think there is a way. I use 2-pass for a final rerender..always. Episode BDs, as far as I know and looking through the Hidden Options don't have a way to "quick" encode the extras. I think JD would have to add the ability to Flag extras for quick processing like movie BDs. Hmm..
I admit I've considered requesting this but I don't have many Episode BDs.

Yeah, and like you, I probably wouldn't really use it that much either as a rule. As it turns out, using the 1 pass CRF (which I prefer as a process anyway and doesn't take as long) worked just fine. I think the average episode to fit onto a BD-25 was about 18 /19 which is just fine, especially for these old episodes.

[Lathe]

@Lathe


Get a decent computer

Verrrrrrrrrrry funny little 'g'... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/rolleyes2.gif

No, it was my over-anal little 'tweaks' that slowed everything down so much. I'm guessing that with 1 pass CRF and set at 'high' the tweaks take a LOT longer and in the case with episodes it's not really necessary. Whereas, when I'm usually doing movie encodes with 2 pass 'high', they don't seem to slow it down as much and are probably more useful there than with episodes.

[gonca]

anal ... 'tweaks'
Too much info, we don't need to know what you do with your anus,
just get a decent computer

[Lathe]

Too much info, we don't need to know what you do with your anus,
just get a decent computer

*sigh... I guess I deserve that one...

Still... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/finger001.gif http://lathe-of-heaven.com/fist.gif

[AmigaFuture]

Too much info, we don't need to know what you do with your anus,
just get a decent computer

Nice!! Laughing so much my sides hurt! I love laughing that much. Oohhh, Wow....



@JD

Back to BD-RB.. I was messin' around with a BD recently and noticed when doing a Menu & Menu's lossless backup (BD50), using Decode=1 or 2, a DTS is not rerendered to AC-3. But when using Decoder=3 it will rerender DTS to AC-3. Unless KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1, then it - nope. I'll do some more checking..

[gonca]

@Lathe


https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/855c/r90rh1vj2x1qevs4g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/r90rh1vj2x1qevs/hqdefault.jpg)

[AmigaFuture]

*sigh... I guess I deserve that one...

Still... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/finger001.gif http://lathe-of-heaven.com/fist.gif

Hmmmm..Lathe....???

[Lathe]

Okay, we are TOTALLY gonna get in trouble here... I can just feel JD on his way, and it's NOT gonna be pretty...! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/no.gif

[AmigaFuture]

Argghh..the replies for this Forum have been going to Junk mail. This is a new event. I rarely check that. So, JD, when I commented before...yep, they are --- were....in there.

[gonca]

Argghh..the replies for this Forum have been going to Junk mail. This is a new event. I rarely check that. So, JD, when I commented before...yep, they are --- were....in there.

You don't suppose that has something to do with Lathe's posts do you?

[Lathe]

Argghh..the replies for this Forum have been going to Junk mail. This is a new event. I rarely check that. So, JD, when I commented before...yep, they are --- were....in there.

Hey, don't feel badly AF... Actually, it's some really exciting, new experimental AI software being implemented here at Doom9. It's really awesome! What it does is automatically scan the posts here on the site, and when it detects posts such as the ones from gonca, Varekai, etc., which have very little or no value at all, it automatically shunts them to the Junk Mail folder.

Isn't that great!

[AmigaFuture]

You don't suppose that has something to do with Lathe's posts do you?

If I thought luck were a truth, I coooould blame Lathe, haha!

Some kind of change(s) Google made, I'm thinking. More and more I don't care for Google/GMail at all. Not even what the newer Microsoft has done to Hotmail; now Outlook...a lot of bugs since Hotmail was replaced.

The Doom9 notifications started going into Junk in September.

[AmigaFuture]

Hey, don't feel badly AF... Actually, it's some really exciting, new experimental AI software being implemented here at Doom9. It's really awesome! What it does is automatically scan the posts here on the site, and when it detects posts such as the ones from gonca, Varekai, etc., which have very little or no value at all, it automatically shunts them to the Junk Mail folder.

Isn't that great!

I don't feel bad, and that would be cool if it were true. Where do I make modifications/additions?? Wink!

I'm a fan of uncontrolled AI like Max Headroom (created), but not a fan of uncontrolled AI (cannot power off).

[AmigaFuture]

I've been doing some testing and I noticed something in the new version. I haven't checked older versions yet. If IVTCFLG=[whatever 0's and 1's] is in a project and there aren't any IVTC switches, IVTC_PULLDOWN=1, ...BD-RB does an IVTC anyway when the project file is reopened. When it's deleted from the file, IVTC isn't done.

[jdobbs]

I've been doing some testing and I noticed something in the new version. I haven't checked older versions yet. If IVTCFLG=[whatever 0's and 1's] is in a project and there aren't any IVTC switches, IVTC_PULLDOWN=1, ...BD-RB does an IVTC anyway when the project file is reopened. When it's deleted from the file, IVTC isn't done.As it should... am I missing something?

BTW -- that isn't meant to be a user-modifiable item.

[AmigaFuture]

Oh, okay... I was thinking if there isn't a switch there then perhaps that's a bug. I wasn't meaning to reflect it as user modifiable, merely removed the 0's and 1's...to whatever in the post..not the Project file. Pardon, didn't me to give that impression.

[jdobbs]

Oh, okay... I was thinking if there isn't a switch there then perhaps that's a bug. I wasn't meaning to reflect it as user modifiable, merely removed the 0's and 1's...to whatever in the post..not the Project file. Pardon, didn't me to give that impression.The IVTC can be set in a transient manner (for example, from the list) and could change (like if you exit and reenter BD-RB). All that setting does is record the state of the IVTC selection for each M2TS at the point in time you added it to the batch list or saved it to a project file.

[AmigaFuture]

Records the state - right. With it in the Project File (or as the new new INI if edited through BD-RB and the saved), and there aren't any other IVTC switches for BD-RB to notice, it still enabled IVTC. It was once I removed that line that it didn't anymore. IVTC from Setup not active, or any hidden options being used...it still did the IVTC. So, what you mean is with that line there..BD-RB does a logic "It's there...so preform a normal IVTC." Gotcha. I was thinking that should not happen unless it's enabled in Setup or Hidden Opt. You have a built in logic happening I didn't figure into play. :)

[jdobbs]

Records the state - right. With it in the Project File (or as the new new INI if edited through BD-RB and the saved), and there aren't any other IVTC switches for BD-RB to notice, it still enabled IVTC. It was once I removed that line that it didn't anymore. IVTC from Setup not active, or any hidden options being used...it still did the IVTC. So, what you mean is with that line there..BD-RB does a logic "It's there...so preform a normal IVTC." Gotcha. I was thinking that should not happen unless it's enabled in Setup or Hidden Opt. You have a built in logic happening I didn't figure into play. :)As I said -- it isn't meant to be user modified. When you removed it the values for each M2TS that BD-RB needed are no longer there -- so they defaulted to zero. It's kinda like cutting off your toes and then saying "why don't I have any toes?"

This is what I mean by a "self inflicted injury".

[Lathe]

It's kinda like cutting off your toes and then saying "why don't I have any toes?"

Wow... now, I'm gonna hafta write this sucker down! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif

[jdobbs]

Records the state - right. With it in the Project File (or as the new new INI if edited through BD-RB and the saved), and there aren't any other IVTC switches for BD-RB to notice, it still enabled IVTC. It was once I removed that line that it didn't anymore. IVTC from Setup not active, or any hidden options being used...it still did the IVTC. So, what you mean is with that line there..BD-RB does a logic "It's there...so preform a normal IVTC." Gotcha. I was thinking that should not happen unless it's enabled in Setup or Hidden Opt. You have a built in logic happening I didn't figure into play. :)
As I said -- it isn't meant to be user modified. When you removed it the values for each M2TS that BD-RB needed are no longer there -- so they defaulted to zero. It's kinda like cutting off your toes and then saying "why don't I have any toes?"

This is what I mean by a "self inflicted injury".By the way, this wasn't meant as a slight against you... just a humorous attempt at further explanation.

[AmigaFuture]

Haha, I appreciate the comment. I wasn't offended (very challenging to do) at all. I thought you'd missed my point that I understood all that and was only making a comment about a possible bug. As Lathe, I appreciate the further humor. I've used that before at times. Pardon if I seemed bothered. That wasn't my intent.

[Lathe]

... and they all lived happily ever after, together in peaceful harmony, gathering each morning at JD's Tinker shop to drink espresso and tell each other little stories of fancy and imagination...

Well, all except Varekai and gonca... sadly they were a little slow and missed the train... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/no.gif

[staina]

Thank you that the me was to no answered to questions below:


A little I'm searched and to internet found same version codec X264, but with other size see. link.

http://www.digital-digest.com/softwa...story.html#471

This codec at processing not once no srasch. It is possible codecs version 2665 compare and give here know in what are other and whether it is possible use and me found codec without reduction in quality output videos?

Yet I'm found out that the at option "Use DirectshowSource frame serving" at two pass uses latest version codec X264 (file X264.exe) how for frame serving so and for encoding, but at options "Use X264s internal LAVF for frame serving" uses older versuses older version codec X264 (file X264L - 64.exe) how for frame serving so and for encoding.

Which option is then for quality better?

[jdobbs]

Thank you that the me was to no answered to questions below:


A little I'm searched and to internet found same version codec X264, but with other size see. link.

http://www.digital-digest.com/softwa...story.html#471

This codec at processing not once no srasch. It is possible codecs version 2665 compare and give here know in what are other and whether it is possible use and me found codec without reduction in quality output videos?

Yet I'm found out that the at option "Use DirectshowSource frame serving" at two pass uses latest version codec X264 (file X264.exe) how for frame serving so and for encoding, but at options "Use X264s internal LAVF for frame serving" uses older versuses older version codec X264 (file X264L - 64.exe) how for frame serving so and for encoding.

Which option is then for quality better?The quality would be the same. The encoding speed might change. As I've said before, the X264L was added because changes in X264 (last year, I think) showed a noticable slowdown when using internal decoders. So I kept an older version (X264L) to avoid the slowdown. By the way -- clicking on your link results in a "file not found" error.

[AmigaFuture]

... and they all lived happily ever after, together in peaceful harmony, gathering each morning at JD's Tinker shop to drink espresso and tell each other little stories of fancy and imagination...

Well, all except Varekai and gonca... sadly they were a little slow and missed the train... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/no.gif

I don't drink Coffee in any form. I do not enjoy what it does to the mind--and observing people for many(+) years, I'll stay away from it, haha. It also messes too much with meditation and awareness for my liking. I'm glad you didn't suggest kissing. I did sort of expect that, from you. Erm. LOL!

[gonca]

I don't drink Coffee in any form. I do not enjoy what it does to the mind--and observing people for many(+) years, I'll stay away from it, haha. It also messes too much with meditation and awareness for my liking. I'm glad you didn't suggest kissing. I did sort of expect that, from you. Erm. LOL!

I am disappointed with you for saying that about poor Lathe.
You do remember that he has this condition with anal tweaks, whatever that means

[Lathe]

I am disappointed with you for saying that about poor Lathe.
You do remember that he has this condition with anal tweaks, whatever that means

Only gonca's troubled mind would come up with some correlation between kissing and anal tweaks... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/doh.gif

That ALONE should be reason for concern... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/no.gif

[AmigaFuture]

I am disappointed with you for saying that about poor Lathe.
You do remember that he has this condition with anal tweaks, whatever that means

Shhh... I don't want Lathe's mind from going into any kind of fetishes like...rim...---never mind. Ick...

Lathe, he has a troubled mind and you're the one that trashes you're "wretched self"?? What a hoot!

Anyway, back to BD-RB.. I'm processing Game of Thrones S1 D1 BD, and so far it's showing an oversize overall progress, but isn't done.

Update: OOps...looks like I left a switch in I shouldn't have. We'll have to retest.

Update 2: Removing the switch didn't make any difference. I'll post soon..in more Detail. Time to enjoy Samhain.

[Blurayhd]

Hi jdobbs and hi dear people I have seven 1080p MKVs movies, that I like to pass it to Bluray but the size of this movies is almost 5gb, 8gb, and I was thinking if Bd rebuilder, in some how can create a fully Bluray with maybe simply menus just for playing each movie?

All I want to do is put on one disc all the seven movies or maybe fourth or less, per disc but can I do that? could you tell me how?

Thank you in advance!!

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs and hi dear people I have seven 1080p MKVs movies, that I like to pass it to Bluray but the size of this movies is almost 5gb, 8gb, and I was thinking if Bd rebuilder, in some how can create a fully Bluray with maybe simply menus just for playing each movie?

All I want to do is put on one disc all the seven movies or maybe fourth or less, per disc but can I do that? could you tell me how?

Thank you in advance!!1. Put the files into a folder together and name the folder (the name you want for your BD).
2. Use the IMPORT function from the FILE menu.
3. Choose the files you want to import.
4. Edit the popup list to give each the name you want on the menu.
5. Import. This will create a pseudo-BD to use for input.
6. Choose an output size -- and run a full backup.

You will end up with a BD structure that can be burned to a disc that matches your selected output size.

There are other options you can use, such as choosing a background, background sound, fonts, colors, etc.

[MrVideo]

I like to pass it to Bluray but the size of this movies is almost 5gb, 8gb
Is that a total of 8GB, or 5-8GB for each movie? You do know that you can only get about 23.5GB on a disc (unless you use 50GB media), so you can't fit all seven on a disc and keep the original size/bitrate.

The instructions will depend upon you wanting to really keep them on a single 25GB disc, or spread them over two discs.

[staina]

The quality would be the same. The encoding speed might change. As I've said before, the X264L was added because changes in X264 (last year, I think) showed a noticable slowdown when using internal decoders. So I kept an older version (X264L) to avoid the slowdown. By the way -- clicking on your link results in a "file not found" error.

Here new link:

http://www.digital-digest.com/software/x264_history.html#471

[Blurayhd]

1. Put the files into a folder together and name the folder (the name you want for your BD).
2. Use the IMPORT function from the FILE menu.
3. Choose the files you want to import.
4. Edit the popup list to give each the name you want on the menu.
5. Import. This will create a pseudo-BD to use for input.
6. Choose an output size -- and run a full backup.

You will end up with a BD structure that can be burned to a disc that matches your selected output size.

There are other options you can use, such as choosing a background, background sound, fonts, colors, etc.

Thank you very much jdobbs for that, I´ll tell you as soon I can doo it

[Blurayhd]

Is that a total of 8GB, or 5-8GB for each movie? You do know that you can only get about 23.5GB on a disc (unless you use 50GB media), so you can't fit all seven on a disc and keep the original size/bitrate.

The instructions will depend upon you wanting to really keep them on a single 25GB disc, or spread them over two discs.

Thank so much to you too and I already know about it, I´ll give a try because I really don´t want to loss this movies but I don´t wnat to use seven disc

Thank you again

[MrVideo]

Thank so much to you too and I already know about it, I´ll give a try because I really don´t want to loss this movies but I don´t wnat to use seven disc
The most discs that you would use is 2. The total size of those 7 videos is 35-56GB. So, by splitting those up in the right sized combinations, you can fit them onto 2 discs, without recoding to make them smaller. Getting those videos onto 1 disc, IMHO, will greatly reduce the video quality.

When you follow jdobb's steps, you can then stop at #5 and burn the BD structure that is created.

[jdobbs]

When you follow jdobb's steps, you can then stop at #5 and burn the BD structure that is created.Very, very bad idea. The chance that the MKV files meet blu-ray standards is virtually zero. They pretty much always have to be reencoded.

[MrVideo]

Very, very bad idea. The chance that the MKV files meet blu-ray standards is virtually zero. They pretty much always have to be reencoded.
I totally disagree with your totally zero statement. I do it all the time. My BD player has no issue. I'm not talking about MKV files that I've encoded, but MKV files that I get elsewhere.

That is also why you do test burns on RW media, so that you can make sure that it does play all the files and that the menu structure meets your needs.

[Sharc]

Very, very bad idea. The chance that the MKV files meet blu-ray standards is virtually zero. They pretty much always have to be reencoded.
Absolutely. Typically mkv files have stripped the borders off, hence not even the resolution is blu-ray compliant. Plus number of non-compliant ref frames, GOP size, b-adapt etc. etc. Normally all far from blu-ray compliancy.

[Sharc]

..... I do it all the time. My BD player has no issue......
Sorry, but that doesn t prove anything.

[Lathe]

Absolutely. Typically mkv files have stripped the borders off, hence not even the resolution is blu-ray compliant. Plus number of non-compliant ref frames, GOP size, b-adapt etc. etc. Normally all far from blu-ray compliancy.

Yeah, I have to chime in that that is my experience too. MOSTLY the cropped borders. Now, with my OPPO I CAN sort of get away with throwing certain AR's into a BDMV folder. If it is an 1.85 or a 1.66 ratio, I can adjust the zoom / AR on my telly and it will look alright (I basically change it from the default 16x9 to 4x3) But, if it is the more common 2.35 or 2.4 it doesn't, it gets stretched.

And, I do always have to check ref & B frames first just in case I want to do that. Even at that, there are times when even playing the MKV file on my OPPO chokes it, and in looking at the encoding parameters, I still can't tell why...

[MrVideo]

Sorry, but that doesn t prove anything.
Yes, it does. It disproves the "virtually zero" and having to "always" recode. I don't.

Not all posters of MKV videos crop the image. My Samsung will just zoom the video to fit the 1920x1080 image area. What doesn't work are those people who try to save a few bits/sec by cropping 960 video to 1920x960. That doesn't play correctly, as the Samsung will vertically stretch it to 1080.

[jdobbs]

I totally disagree with your totally zero statement. I do it all the time. My BD player has no issue. I'm not talking about MKV files that I've encoded, but MKV files that I get elsewhere.

That is also why you do test burns on RW media, so that you can make sure that it does play all the files and that the menu structure meets your needs.I really don't care if you disagree. You are totally wrong. But, hey, if you want to pretend to be an expert despite my advice -- go ahead. But when you move on to a different player and it stops working, just remember what I said.Absolutely. Typically mkv files have stripped the borders off, hence not even the resolution is blu-ray compliant. Plus number of non-compliant ref frames, GOP size, b-adapt etc. etc. Normally all far from blu-ray compliancy.Agreed 100%