BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Sharc]

(Question 2-- when are you going to get a release version I can give some money for? Really, I've converted about 450 Blurays, and once I can get the install done right, I know this is a good program, if a little rough on the edges. It does what I need, IOW.)

That's easy:
- Open BD RB
- Help Menu => Development Donations

[jginnane]

That's easy:
- Open BD RB
- Help Menu => Development Donations

Thanks, but parsing the question is -- when are you going to get [to] a release version? I can give money towards DVD Rebuilder, which I don't use, or towards development of a beta for Blurays, which is not at all usual for me.

BD-Rebuilder is more finished than a lot of things I've tried over the years. I'd actually like to acquire a license. But it's not available (in that strict, legalistic context) yet. See the difference?

[ You can throw coins in a fountain, or you can purchase a bottle of water, but you can't do both. ]

[RobertM]

See the difference?

Uh, no.

Did you backup those 450 discs with BD-RB? And are you now splitting hairs over why you won't just make a donation to the developer?

I don't know that JDobbs will ever actually take BD-RB out of beta. Personally, I don't care. It works well for me in its present state, and I expect that to continue. So far I've made at least 3 donations to JDobbs. Money well spent by me, and well earned by him/her.


And, just to be clear, I'm not saying that you SHOULD make a donation. But you seem to like the app, want to donate, but are waiting for the official release. My point is that there is no reason to wait.

[setarip_old]

@jginnane

And what's wrong with the author saying, "Take a bottle of my water at no cost - and, only if you wish to, toss some coins in my fountain. You may keep and enjoy the bottle of water whether you toss coins in my fountain or not"?

[gonca]

@jginnane
A lot of us have have donated to DVD_RB and/or BD_RD as is. To continuously test to take out of beta means buying discs, using free time, paying for network bandwidth,etc. Help him along with the expenses. He is allowing us to use some pretty darn good software for free. I believe, and I may be wrong, that he has stated that he doesn't want to institute licensing fees for BD_RB, but would appreciate help with the improvement costs of the software.

Anti-virus tends to be a periodic mandatory fee. What is wrong with a voluntary donation to a well functioning software program?

P.S. My apologies to jdobbs if my memory is faulty.

[Guest]

Bug reports only, guys, in this thread. Thank you.

[Adbear]

Hi, I've been using the beta successfully on Win7 and Win8 64-bit machines. Two new builds (Win8 64-bit) are getting this error. I tried moving the OCX file around to different places and running regsvr32 again, with no success.

Unfortunately a search of this beta bug thread for MSCOMCTL.OCX comes up with about 500 pages of hits. When I have a few hours, I'll look. In the meantime, is there a quick fix?


Right click on BDRebuilder.exe and choose 'Run as Administrator' that should fix the problem, it always has for me
This is mentioned on the very first page of this thread as well
3.1 If you are running Windows 8 you may need to run REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT. In the installation folder (you selected in step 3), right-click on the file "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" and select "Run as Administrator". You should only have to do this once.

[colinhunt]

Can you comment on why BD-RB often spends quite a long time in the "Completing remainder of DGDecNV indexing..." phase while the system is practically idling?

I have a desktop gadget which tells me what the CPU and GPU are doing. I've noticed the system can spend a long time (30-60 minutes when processing main movie file) with very little CPU activity and no GPU activity at all while BD-RB is in the "Completing..." phase.

GPU graphs spike immediately when BD-RB moves to encoding phase, so it's not like the GPU is not used at all. I'm just interested in learning what happens during the "Completing..." phase.

[jginnane]

Right click on BDRebuilder.exe and choose 'Run as Administrator' that should fix the problem, it always has for me

This is mentioned on the very first page of this thread as well

Thanks for the reply. I believe this worked in the past, but doesn't now (with two new separate Win8/64 builds -- i7 3770K, 32GB RAM, et al) (Yes, these are hog monsters :).

Is it possible that on the older machine (which updated to Win8, and ran BD-Rebuilder OK) I've collected a lot of other installed stuff, codecs, CCE, what-not, and when I updated that to Win8 I kept essential libraries that aren't referenced by our install readme.txt? (Sorry if that sentence is mangled.) On the clean Win8 systems I just haven't yet acquired some missing but essential pieces: It could be any random thing -- Adobe, java -- that everyone sooner or later gets around to installing.

Incidentally I compared the MSCOMCTL.OCX from the old (good) system and what's in the new installs, and they're byte-for-byte identical. But I can't get this OCX to register on these 2 machines. Annoying.

[Adbear]

Thanks for the reply. I believe this worked in the past, but doesn't now (with two new separate Win8/64 builds -- i7 3770K, 32GB RAM, et al) (Yes, these are hog monsters :).

Is it possible that on the older machine (which updated to Win8, and ran BD-Rebuilder OK) I've collected a lot of other installed stuff, codecs, CCE, what-not, and when I updated that to Win8 I kept essential libraries that aren't referenced by our install readme.txt? (Sorry if that sentence is mangled.) On the clean Win8 systems I just haven't yet acquired some missing but essential pieces: It could be any random thing -- Adobe, java -- that everyone sooner or later gets around to installing.

Incidentally I compared the MSCOMCTL.OCX from the old (good) system and what's in the new installs, and they're byte-for-byte identical. But I can't get this OCX to register on these 2 machines. Annoying.Works every time for me on cleanly installed systems with nothing other than Win 8 Pro and hardware drivers installed. Did you try turning off UAC?

[sonate]

If I have a main movie which has two HD uncompressed LCPM .wav audio stereo tracks along with one DTS-HD XLL and an AC3 stereo, is there a way I can specify that BD rebuilder compress the LCPM tracks while keeping the DTS-HD XLL and AC3 intact?

[jdobbs]

Right click on BDRebuilder.exe and choose 'Run as Administrator' that should fix the problem, it always has for me
This is mentioned on the very first page of this thread as well

There was at least one report in which a person had to open up CMD.EXE in Administrator mode, and cut-and-paste the command from the .BAT file directly into it. Not sure how that could happen, but I just thought I'd mention it. In the vast majority of cases that OCX is already registered after Windows is installed -- I have no idea why it occasionally isn't.

[jdobbs]

Can you comment on why BD-RB often spends quite a long time in the "Completing remainder of DGDecNV indexing..." phase while the system is practically idling?

I have a desktop gadget which tells me what the CPU and GPU are doing. I've noticed the system can spend a long time (30-60 minutes when processing main movie file) with very little CPU activity and no GPU activity at all while BD-RB is in the "Completing..." phase.

GPU graphs spike immediately when BD-RB moves to encoding phase, so it's not like the GPU is not used at all. I'm just interested in learning what happens during the "Completing..." phase.

It's scanning during that process -- which is I/O intensive (disc), but uses very little CPU/GPU.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to the latestd release of BD-RB (v0.43.01). Changes for this version:- Created a new Mode: "Quick-Play Mode". This mode
is similar to to Movie-Only in that it removes
menus, etc. -- but in Quick-Play mode all
significant playlists are kept. The feature will
play immediately upon insertion into the player
but you can switch to other playlists (extras) by
pushing the "Menu" remote key during playback.
This action will cycle through all playable
items individually. Note: It's possible to have
a Quick-Play that consists of only the movie when
all other playlists are below the threshold that
is considered significant.
- Added a new hidden setting in support of the new
quick-play mode. QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD sets the
value (in minutes) that represents the smallest
playlist to keep in Quick-Play mode.
- Updated the DVD IMPORT function so that it now
imports all significant titles from the source
and no longer prompts to select when more than
one is present.
- Updated the IMPORT function to accept additional
source width & height settings without aborting.
- Corrected an issue associated with IVTC and the
sizing of segments in muliprocessing.
- Improved import conversion capability for XVID
sources. Keeps original quality more accurately.
- Added code to the import function to correct for
certain non-compliant FPS/resolution selections.
- Corrected an issue in which audio delay was not
correctly detected and shifted in multipart
sources.
- Added a routine that checks for certain failure
conditions when importing oddly formatted MKV
files -- and then corrects and reaccomplishes.
- Added code to extract chapter information from
MKV sources when they are present during import.
- Modified video file IMPORT function so you can
now select multiple items. The items will be
combined into a single source that is formatted
as a "Quick-Play" disc.
- Updated MKVMERGE and MKVEXTRACT to v6.0.0.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r2245).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r2245).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[soneca]

New version, thanks! :)

[Rich86]

Thanks for the new version. Did your testing with DVD-5 output regarding handling forced subtitles reveal anything that warranted a fix by any chance (your post #16644)?

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the new version. Did your testing with DVD-5 output regarding handling forced subtitles reveal anything that warranted a fix by any chance (your post #16644)? Unfortunately everything I tested related to the forced subtitles worked correctly -- so there was nothing I could find to fix there. Maybe if you sent me the specific subtitle that was having issues, I could look at it for anomalies.

[colinhunt]

Wow, nice features in the new version. Thanks!

[jdobbs]

Wow, nice features in the new version. Thanks! Look for more coming up in the next version, I'm looking at an option to include a menu in the Quick-Play output (for those times when there are a lot of included streams). I'd already started working it, but decided it would be too long between releases if I waited until that part was complete.

I'm working a couple of other features as well. I'm trying to make BD-RB a one-stop BD processing solution so you can take almost any kind of input and get almost any kind of output just by tweaking settings.

[colinhunt]

Look for more coming up in the next version (...) I'm working a couple of other features as well. I'm trying to make BD-RB a one-stop BD processing solution so you can take almost any kind of input and get almost any kind of output just by tweaking settings.
Whoa! That sounds awesome, seriously. Really looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

About to feed a bunch of previously-difficult discs to the new version. Fingers crossed :)

[colinhunt]

It's scanning during that process -- which is I/O intensive (disc), but uses very little CPU/GPU.
I wonder if there's something wrong with my system. I installed a Drives Meter gadget and started a Full Backup of Space Cobra (japanimation). Once the main movie file (40+ GB) had been demuxed to WORKFILES, BD-RB entered the "Completing remainder of DGDecNV indexing..." stage.

I've been watching the Drives Meter for the past 20 minutes. It's set up for 1 second refresh: every alternative reading for drive I/O is zero, i.e. no activity. Rest of the readings bounce between 6 and 20 kilobytes per second. CPU got to 6% max and there's been zero activity in the GPU. Is that normal?

[Ch3vr0n]

only thing i can say is i've seen that happen once or twice too. My "fix" was to cancel the encode, restart it and that "completing remainder..." was gone

[colinhunt]

only thing i can say is i've seen that happen once or twice too. My "fix" was to cancel the encode, restart it and that "completing remainder..." was gone
It happens to me for every source file. And for silly bonus, the indexing can take a long time in relation to the file's running time. Like just now, a file with a running time of less than 50 seconds took 2 minutes to index. Re-encoding took only a minute :)

[gonca]

@collinhunt
In device manager check the status if your ide controllers to make sure an i/o error has flipped it to pio mode.

[AGKnotUser]

If I try to save changes to an existing project with no source selected the error message: "Run-time error '9':
Subscript out of range" is displayed.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Congratulations on the enhancements added in v.43.01 ;>}

One question, if I may. You say: - Added a new hidden setting in support of the new quick-play mode. QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD sets the value (in minutes) that represents the smallest playlist to keep in Quick-Play mode. Why did you choose to make this a HIDDEN setting?

BTW - With all the wonderful updates you've either implemented or are working on, let's hope streaming video doesn't replace discs (of all formats) too soon!

Just noticed that you've been working on BD-RB for more than FOUR YEARS! Kudos for your fantastic work ethic.

[setarip_old]

@gonca

I believe the automatic switching from DMA mode to (Slooooow) PIO mode after two or three disc errors was eliminated with the introduction of the Vista O/S...

[gonca]

@setarip_old
Technically correct but DMA can still be unselected. While it might not become PIO as such it still isn't DMA. Doesn't hurt to check if DMA mode is selected.

[gonca]

Possible bug. DVD > MKV with Mkvmerge. If I import it throws an error about not having a supported video stream, AVC-VC1-MPEG2. If I import to batch all is good.

[jdobbs]

If I try to save changes to an existing project with no source selected the error message: "Run-time error '9':
Subscript out of range" is displayed. I'll check it out.

[Edit] Fixed for the next release. Interesting. That error has probably been there since the first version.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Congratulations on the enhancements added in v.43.01 ;>}

One question, if I may. You say: Why did you choose to make this a HIDDEN setting?

BTW - With all the wonderful updates you've either implemented or are working on, let's hope streaming video doesn't replace discs (of all formats) too soon!

Just noticed that you've been working on BD-RB for more than FOUR YEARS! Kudos for your fantastic work ethic.

1. Because it would only be changed once, twice, or, more likely, never. It is just a threshold that decides how long something is before it would be included in the backup.

2. If it does... I'll find something else to do with my spare time.

3. It seems I'm trying to get into Guiness for the worlds longest software beta... the problem is that until I fix a couple of issues that have eluded me (like the one related to DTS Express secondary tracks) it will probably stay in beta. It's probably stable enough now in most other ways.

[jdobbs]

Possible bug. DVD > MKV with Mkvmerge. If I import it throws an error about not having a supported video stream, AVC-VC1-MPEG2. If I import to batch all is good. Probably a bug. I did a lot of changes in that area.

What disc?

[HatchetMan]

In v43.01b I also noticed that inspect.exe now checks your anydvd settings to tell you which features of anydvd should not be selected, such as jump to main menu or remove annoying adverts, I deselected them and re-ran inspect, the warnings went away! Or maybe that was just the 1st time I ever ran inspect with those anydvd setting because I almost never set them, unless I am keeping the full disc backup. Because otherwise that is pre-processing. Thanks!

[colinhunt]

In device manager check the status if your ide controllers to make sure an i/o error has flipped it to pio mode.
I don't use IDE at all, not even when ripping discs to HDD. The data is on a SATA HDD when BD-RB enters the "Completing remainder..." stage.

[gillie]

Right-click on a subtitle no longer gives the option to force subtitles on. In fact it doesn't do anything at all.
Tried same movie with v0.42.08 and it worked fine.

[jdobbs]

In v43.01b I also noticed that inspect.exe now checks your anydvd settings to tell you which features of anydvd should not be selected, such as jump to main menu or remove annoying adverts, I deselected them and re-ran inspect, the warnings went away! Or maybe that was just the 1st time I ever ran inspect with those anydvd setting because I almost never set them, unless I am keeping the full disc backup. Because otherwise that is pre-processing. Thanks!It's done that for a while. I haven't tested it in a while, but some of those features caused issues in the past.

[jdobbs]

Right-click on a subtitle no longer gives the option to force subtitles on. In fact it doesn't do anything at all.
Tried same movie with v0.42.08 and it worked fine.You are mistaken. It hasn't changed. That feature only works and has always only worked when you select Movie-Only output. You can't do it in a full backup because the subtitles are handled programatically by the original authoring.

[gonca]

@jdobbs
Every DVD disc I've tried with the new version so far. I only use MKVMerge when a DVD has DTS audio. BD_RB isn't able to import DVD discs with DTS audio, Not a big deal since it isn't DVD spec? However MKV's with DTS worked fine before.

@collinhunt
I wasn't talking about using IDE mode. SATA is still under an IDE controller in Device Manager.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Every DVD disc I've tried with the new version so far. I only use MKVMerge when a DVD has DTS audio. BD_RB isn't able to import DVD discs with DTS audio, Not a big deal since it isn't DVD spec? However MKV's with DTS worked fine before.

@collinhunt
I wasn't talking about using IDE mode. SATA is still under an IDE controller in Device Manager.It should import DTS fine from DVD. I'll find a DVD with DTS and test it.

I have no idea what you mean when you say: "I only use MKVMerge when a DVD has DTS audio."

[colinhunt]

@collinhunt
I wasn't talking about using IDE mode. SATA is still under an IDE controller in Device Manager.
Right. Well, everything is running as Ultra DMA Mode 5. I would be surprised if the problem lies with IDE/ATA since I get very healthy 100+ MB/sec transfer rates from the HDDs.

[gonca]

Every time I've tried to import a DVD with DTS audio it always fails with a remux error. I always thought that it was because DTS wasn't actually part of the DVD spec.

[jdobbs]

Every time I've tried to import a DVD with DTS audio it always fails with a remux error. I always thought that it was because DTS wasn't actually part of the DVD spec. DTS is part of the DVD spec (just not HD). I think I may have found the issue, it was a mistype in the creation of the file extension. Unfortunately, though, I'm having a tough time proving that to be the issue, as finding a DVD in my collection that has DTS audio is harder than I thought. They don't use it very often.

[omegaman7]

I believe multiple Disney movies carry DTS audio. Don't quote me though :S LOL!

[gonca]

@jdobbs
The two predator movies have DTS audio.
Thank you for your efforts.

@collinhunt
Sorry I couldn't help any more, just thought it was woth a shot.

[gonca]

@jdobbs
I don't want you to go through any expense on my account, i.e. buy a disc you don't want. If you allow me to download a test version I can try it out and supply any feedback you want, that I am able to supply

[HatchetMan]

DTS is part of the DVD spec (just not HD). I think I may have found the issue, it was a mistype in the creation of the file extension. Unfortunately, though, I'm having a tough time proving that to be the issue, as finding a DVD in my collection that has DTS audio is harder than I thought. They don't use it very often.
^^ Monster (2003) immediately comes to mind...

But, I was trying to do Galapagos with v43.01b and it fails, is this here uncommon?

Video
ID : 1
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@L3
Codec ID : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / WVC1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 2h 26mn
Bit rate : 19.3 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.310
Stream size : 19.8 GiB (96%)
Language : English

[RobertM]

Hi guys,

I ran into another audio sync issue. The last time I had this issue was with a heavily mulit-part title (70 parts IIRC); Total Recall 2012. The audio was in sync at the beginning, but delayed by about 1/2 second by the end of the film.

This time the title is "Man On Fire". The audio is in sync at the beginning, again, but out of sync at the end by about 300ms delay. This time the original video is in one single stream.

I was running BD-RB 42.08 when this problem happened, so, today, I upgraded to 43.01 to see if that would help: the problem remains.

To solve this problem I took the audio stream from the Workfiles folder and scaled it down by approx 300ms. Then I manually used tsMuxeR to created a new BD structure from the video and sup files that BD-RB created, plus my scaled-down audio file.

I detected this problem during my usual validation process - after rebuilding, before burning. I use VLC Media Player, checking 3 positions of the video: just after opening credits, midway, and just before closing credits. I look primarily at lip movement vs audio. The original disc audio sync is fine, my custom rebuild is fine (good enough, anyway), the BD-RB rebuild has the sync issue.

Like I said, I've solved my problem manually, so this is just FYI. But let me know if you need additional info.

Log:

[02/26/13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.01 (beta)
[08:26:46] Source: MOF_00001
- Input BD size: 37.44 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:26:05.756]
- Target BD size: 23.63 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:26:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:26:51] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [08:26:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [08:33:22] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 210,168 frames
- Bitrate: 20,775 Kbs
- [08:33:22] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [09:19:55] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:07:23] Video Encode complete
- [10:07:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[10:12:37]PHASE ONE complete
[10:12:37]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:12:37] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:29:44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:29:44] JOB: MOF finished.



Inspect:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [4422], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.43.0.1, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[techno1]

Using the updated 43.01, I backed up 'The Bourne Legacy' with the Quick-Play Backup MODE and cannot play the disc using PowerDVD 10. The error message displayed is 'There is a disc with an unsupported format in drive'. The disc plays successfully in my Panasonic standalone player. It ALSO plays successfully using VLC Player. I'm not sure if this error appears in newer versions of PowerDVD as I've not a need to upgrade. PowerDVD is my preferred player for testing mounted ISO's. I've attached a screen clip of the error.


ps. Thanks JDobbs for your continued work on this project!

[jdobbs]

Hi guys,

I ran into another audio sync issue. The last time I had this issue was with a heavily mulit-part title (70 parts IIRC); Total Recall 2012. The audio was in sync at the beginning, but delayed by about 1/2 second by the end of the film.

This time the title is "Man On Fire". The audio is in sync at the beginning, again, but out of sync at the end by about 300ms delay. This time the original video is in one single stream.

I was running BD-RB 42.08 when this problem happened, so, today, I upgraded to 43.01 to see if that would help: the problem remains.

To solve this problem I took the audio stream from the Workfiles folder and scaled it down by approx 300ms. Then I manually used tsMuxeR to created a new BD structure from the video and sup files that BD-RB created, plus my scaled-down audio file.

I detected this problem during my usual validation process - after rebuilding, before burning. I use VLC Media Player, checking 3 positions of the video: just after opening credits, midway, and just before closing credits. I look primarily at lip movement vs audio. The original disc audio sync is fine, my custom rebuild is fine (good enough, anyway), the BD-RB rebuild has the sync issue.

Like I said, I've solved my problem manually, so this is just FYI. But let me know if you need additional info. I'll pick it up and give it a try.

[jdobbs]

Using the updated 43.01, I backed up 'The Bourne Legacy' with the Quick-Play Backup MODE and cannot play the disc using PowerDVD 10. The error message displayed is 'There is a disc with an unsupported format in drive'. The disc plays successfully in my Panasonic standalone player. It ALSO plays successfully using VLC Player. I'm not sure if this error appears in newer versions of PowerDVD as I've not a need to upgrade. PowerDVD is my preferred player for testing mounted ISO's. I've attached a screen clip of the error.


ps. Thanks JDobbs for your continued work on this project! I've tried many of the Quick-Play backups in PowerDVD 11 during testing, and they've all worked. Sounds like it might be an issue with PowerDVD 10.