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Discoboy
25th February 2010, 12:08
Rolled back to v0.31.06 (beta) and playback is working again on the BD35 SAP.

I see from some posts that this issue is not just with me as other BD30 and BD50 users have had similar experiences also.

Will now roll forward and test v0.31.08 (beta)....

Hi jdobbs,

Now rolled forward to v0.31.08 (beta).... and playback is still working again on the BD35 SAP and so x264 r1400 is working OK.

So the issue seems to be from v0.32.01 (beta) and after and so either the x264 version r1442 or the added code to append ExtensionData() information to AVCHD output (BD-5/9) movie-only encodes is the issue...

Discoboy
25th February 2010, 14:22
Hi jdobbs,

Now rolled forward to v0.31.08 (beta).... and playback is still working again on the BD35 SAP and so x264 r1400 is working OK.

So the issue seems to be from v0.32.01 (beta) and after and so either the x264 version r1442 or the added code to append ExtensionData() information to AVCHD output (BD-5/9) movie-only encodes is the issue...

Hi jdobbs,

Next test was to see if it’s the new code or x264.

I used again v0.32.03 (beta) and not using the optional switch of “FIX_MOVIEONLY=0” i.e. the new code is used.

I then replaced the x264 r1442 from v0.32.03 (beta) with the x264 r1400 from v0.31.08.

Interestingly I noticed the file size of r1442 was very big at 6.8MB compared to the 1.1MB (typical x264 file size) of r1400.

So I ran the same project with the hybrid version of v0.32.03 (beta) and success.. playback is still working again on the BD35 SAP.

So the issue seems to be from the x264 version r1442 and not your added code to append ExtensionData() information to AVCHD output (BD-5/9) movie-only encodes...

I will make 1 final test just to double check all my findings and run with v0.32.03 (beta) with the original x264 r1442 just to be sure...

jdobbs
25th February 2010, 15:08
Hi jdobbs,

Next test was to see if it’s the new code or x264.

I used again v0.32.03 (beta) and not using the optional switch of “FIX_MOVIEONLY=0” i.e. the new code is used.

I then replaced the x264 r1442 from v0.32.03 (beta) with the x264 r1400 from v0.31.08.

Interestingly I noticed the file size of r1442 was very big at 6.8MB compared to the 1.1MB (typical x264 file size) of r1400.

So I ran the same project with the hybrid version of v0.32.03 (beta) and success.. playback is still working again on the BD35 SAP.

So the issue seems to be from the x264 version r1442 and not your added code to append ExtensionData() information to AVCHD output (BD-5/9) movie-only encodes...

I will make 1 final test just to double check all my findings and run with v0.32.03 (beta) with the original x264 r1442 just to be sure...Thanks. I wonder what could have been introduced in X264 that might have that kind of effect? Wierd. Version 1462 has just been released. I'll go through the change logs and see if there was something fixed that might have been related.

Good analysis and reporting. Much appreciated. :thanks:

As an additional test do you think you could try this build of x264 (http://komisar.gin.by/old/1462/x264.1462kGIT.generic.x86.exe) and see how well it does? It's the latest (r1462) with the nal-hrd patch.

Discoboy
25th February 2010, 15:46
Thanks. I wonder what could have been introduced in X264 that might have that kind of effect? Wierd. Version 1462 has just been released. I'll go through the change logs and see if there was something fixed that might have been related.

Good analysis and reporting. Much appreciated. :thanks:

As an additional test do you think you could try this build of x264 (http://komisar.gin.by/old/1462/x264.1462kGIT.generic.x86.exe) and see how well it does? It's the latest (r1462) with the nal-hrd patch.

v0.32.03 (beta) + r1462 = BD_RB crash at encode

[14:33:43] BD Rebuilder v0.32.03 (beta)
- Source: xxxxxx
- Input BD size: 29.59 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:46.201]
- Target BD size: 4.39 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[14:33:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:33:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00262]
- [14:40:14] Reencoding: VID_00262 (1 of 1)
- [14:40:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 147,841 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 147,841 frames
- [14:40:14] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 22.17 - [14:40:14] PredictAndEncode() 00053 2810
[14:41:21] - Aborted by user request

Also both r1462 and r 1442 = 6.8MB file size, why so big??

r1400 and below are all only around 1.1MB....

jdobbs
25th February 2010, 16:48
v0.32.03 (beta) + r1462 = BD_RB crash at encode

[14:33:43] BD Rebuilder v0.32.03 (beta)
- Source: xxxxxx
- Input BD size: 29.59 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:46.201]
- Target BD size: 4.39 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[14:33:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:33:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00262]
- [14:40:14] Reencoding: VID_00262 (1 of 1)
- [14:40:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 147,841 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 147,841 frames
- [14:40:14] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 22.17 - [14:40:14] PredictAndEncode() 00053 2810
[14:41:21] - Aborted by user request

Also both r1462 and r 1442 = 6.8MB file size, why so big??

r1400 and below are all only around 1.1MB.... Recent versions of x264 include interfaces into the FFMPEG libraries for reading/writing many sources and containers. Some only reference the DLL, others actually include it in the compile. Most of the patched versions include it, and that's what makes it so much bigger.

Since I don't have a player that has issues, I'd appreciate it if you could try one more thing. Download this version (http://mirror01.x264.nl/x264/revision1462/x264.exe) of x264. It is directly from the x264 site and doesn't include patches. In order to make it work you need to add USE_NAL_HRD=0 to the options area of the BD-RB INI file.

Please make sure you are placing the file in the right place and renaming it to x264.exe... the error 53/2810 means it "can't find specified file" -- which could mean the source or the exe in the command line.

Discoboy
25th February 2010, 17:24
Recent versions of x264 include interfaces into the FFMPEG libraries for reading/writing many sources and containers. Some only reference the DLL, others actually include it in the compile. Most of the patched versions include it, and that's what makes it so much bigger.

Since I don't have a player that has issues, I'd appreciate it if you could try one more thing. Download this version (http://mirror01.x264.nl/x264/revision1462/x264.exe) of x264. It is directly from the x264 site and doesn't include patches. In order to make it work you need to add USE_NAL_HRD=0 to the options area of the BD-RB INI file.

Please make sure you are placing the file in the right place and renaming it to x264.exe... the error 53/2810 means it "can't find specified file" -- which could mean the source or the exe in the command line.

Hi jdobbs,

X264.exe is defiantly in the correct location, I copy and paste over the top of the old file to make sure both file name and location are the same.

I have repeated two times now a run with the patched r1462 and in-between installed the working r1400 just to make sure to check encoding starts ok. Both times now the patched r1462 crashes at encode start for error 53/2810.

I am now running the non patched r1462 + the optional switch of USE_NAL_HRD=0 and encoding is now running OK.

I Will report back once the encode is finished as to the BD35’s ability to play the DVD or not.

FYI - I have now repeated two times (so as to double check) the following scenarios and both come out with the same results:

- V0.32.03 (beta) + x264 r1400 = OK BD35 SAP playability

- V0.32.03 (beta) + x264 r1442 = NO BD35 SAP playability (plays ok in pc based powerDVD 9)

jdobbs
25th February 2010, 17:39
I Will report back once the encode is finished as to the BD35’s ability to play the DVD or not.Thanks, I'd like to get this issue put to bed.

I still don't understand why it would get the 53/2810 error, though.

If the newer version you are running now works, I will post an update that will use the new patched version.

Discoboy
25th February 2010, 18:00
Thanks, I'd like to get this issue put to bed.

I still don't understand why it would get the 53/2810 error, though.

If the newer version you are running now works, I will post an update that will use the new patched version.

The V0.32.03 (beta) + x264 non patched r1462 + “USE_NAL_HRD=0” encode will be finished in 30mins...

Discoboy
25th February 2010, 18:15
If the newer version you are running now works, I will post an update that will use the new patched version.

Will the update still be able to run 2 pass encoding instead of the 1 pass CRF I am using at the momoment to save time for results etc as I prefer 2 pass for good final file size and PQ

Discoboy
25th February 2010, 18:49
Thanks, I'd like to get this issue put to bed.

I still don't understand why it would get the 53/2810 error, though.

If the newer version you are running now works, I will post an update that will use the new patched version.

So:

- V0.32.03 (beta) + x264 non-patched r1462 + “USE_NAL_HRD=0” = OK BD35 SAP playability ;)

DK
25th February 2010, 19:09
I have the following "problem" with 0.32.03:

done two conversion with it so far

- FULL movie BD25 works fine

- MOVIE only BD9 plays fine with software players but playing the material burned (for testing purposes) to a BD-RE i am NOT able to fast forward/backward or jump to any chapter

the picture freezes, sound goes on

used 31.06 afterwards and the same movie plays fine again

jdobbs
25th February 2010, 19:59
@Discoboy

I've modified the exe to add the additional parameter to nal-hrd. Please download from this link (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV03204.ZIP) and try running it without the USE_NAL_HRD=0 parameter. Hopefully that means that X264 r1462 fixed whatever was causing the issue -- if not, then I know it has something to do with the NAL-HRD patched version.

Thanks.

@DK

Please try this version also.

datman
25th February 2010, 20:07
It's a bad rip - the pictures freezes but you hear the audio. I have had it twice and on both times when I re-ripped them they were fine the next time

Thanks I'll rerip and try it

funny how the rip plays fine

jdobbs
25th February 2010, 20:12
Thanks I'll rerip and try it

funny how the rip plays fine Most of the time that's not a good test. Players can sometimes get past bad portions because it really doesn't matter that much -- but it's different when you have to decode and reencode it.

DK
25th February 2010, 20:45
@DK

Please try this version also.

will do so

i'm running another 32.03 test on the same movie right now to make sure it was not simply a coincidence

after that i'll try .04 and report back

Discoboy
25th February 2010, 20:49
@Discoboy

I've modified the exe to add the additional parameter to nal-hrd. Please download from this link (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV03204.ZIP) and try running it without the USE_NAL_HRD=0 parameter. Hopefully that means that X264 r1462 fixed whatever was causing the issue -- if not, then I know it has something to do with the NAL-HRD patched version.

Thanks.
.

So:

- V0.32.04 (beta) = NO BD35 SAP playability :confused: (plays ok in pc based powerDVD 9)

Shuttle99
25th February 2010, 23:01
I'm sure I changed something but not sure why this is happening. When I convert movie only it no longer puts the certificate folder in the new folder it creates. I took a chance not knowing if it would work but it did and I copied the original certificate to the new folder and burned it and it worked fine. Any idea why it stopped doing it on its own?

jefrey
25th February 2010, 23:03
Hi,
i have downloaded the newst bd rebuilder and wanted to try an dvd 9 fullmovie Backup... everything works fine...
1.pass run and passed well.
2.pass x264.exe starts and dont encode..it freeze

i've rerun this project 4x times and everytime the same shit.:confused:

But As i switched to bd25 backup everything works fine, and both passes completed sucessfull:) and now rebuilding is in progress.
very strange.

jdobbs
26th February 2010, 00:01
So:

- V0.32.04 (beta) = NO BD35 SAP playability :confused: (plays ok in pc based powerDVD 9) Well since the new version works without NAL-HRD, that means it has to be the patch or the build that is causing the problem.

Damn.

I'm going to take the NAL-HRD requirement out. The fact is that TSMUXER will add it, but I wanted to use the patch because the way it does it is more compliant.

It sure doesn't seem to be true with the latest versions though. I'm pulling the plug on X264's NAL-HRD for a now.

Dark Shikari
26th February 2010, 00:02
The patch isn't done yet. When it's done, it will work.

jdobbs
26th February 2010, 00:04
The patch isn't done yet. When it's done, it will work.When it is done will it be in the standard build, or will I still have to download one of the alterate builds?

Dark Shikari
26th February 2010, 00:52
When it is done will it be in the standard build, or will I still have to download one of the alterate builds?It will be committed to x264 when it is done.

jdobbs
26th February 2010, 01:04
That would be great. Thanks.

jdobbs
26th February 2010, 01:06
Hi,
i have downloaded the newst bd rebuilder and wanted to try an dvd 9 fullmovie Backup... everything works fine...
1.pass run and passed well.
2.pass x264.exe starts and dont encode..it freeze

i've rerun this project 4x times and everytime the same shit.:confused:

But As i switched to bd25 backup everything works fine, and both passes completed sucessfull:) and now rebuilding is in progress.
very strange.Are you overclocked? Whenever I hear of a freeze it is almost always either the system itself or a decoder error -- not X264.

datman
26th February 2010, 04:08
It's a bad rip - the pictures freezes but you hear the audio. I have had it twice and on both times when I re-ripped them they were fine the next time

It worked thanks for the tip

DK
26th February 2010, 09:53
Using 32.04 i still have this problem that the (movie only bd9) conversion STARTS to play but the picture freezes (sound keeps playing) when fastforward/rewind or skip is used.
Only chapter that will give normal video again is the first/beginning of the film.

jefrey
26th February 2010, 11:59
No there is nothing overclocked, i will test it later with build1400.

michael1971
26th February 2010, 12:56
My bd9 is not work with my panasonic dmp-bd80 whith bd-rb 32.04... But with tmt it's ok...
Excuse my bad english i'm belgian lol !

[Options]
MODE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=fra;fre;frm;fro;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8244
TARGET_SIZE=8244
ENCODE_QUALITY=4
TWEAK_PASS_ONE= --tune grain
TWEAK_PASS_TWO= --tune grain
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\BLURAYRIP\STAR_TREK_3_EU\
WORKING_PATH=D:\BLURAYRIP\BDREBUILDER\


"C:\Users\Michael\Desktop\Nouveau dossier\BD-RBV03204\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BLURAYRIP\BDREBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_00004.AVS" --preset slower --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --weightp 0 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 9194 --level 4.0 --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --vbv-bufsize 14500 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --threads auto --thread-input --tune grain --stats "D:\BLURAYRIP\BDREBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_00004.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "D:\BLURAYRIP\BDREBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_00004.AVS.MKV"

I have checked one audio and one subtitle to default...
Please help ;-)

Ch3vr0n
26th February 2010, 14:35
it could be because you have "strict avchd selected" in your options. Try unticking that box and burning again. If you dont want coasters, i suggest you get a BD-REwritable.

BTW shoulda payed more attention in the english classes in high school :p, i'm belgian to and my english is flawless. But then again i did start watching english language based shows and to the bbc arround 8-9yrs old :p

jdobbs
26th February 2010, 14:47
I have updated the first post of this thread to link to a new release of BD-RB (v0.32.05). Changes for this release:- Disabled NAL-HRD processing in X264. Recent patch
releases have proven problematic on certain players
(mainly Panasonic). TSMUXER performs insertion of
necessary information, but the NAL-HRD patch was used
due to its greater degree of blu-ray compliancy. It
appears that this is no longer the case, or at least
that it isn't in current versions.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1462 without nal-hrd patch).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Discoboy
26th February 2010, 15:33
I have updated the first post of this thread to link to a new release of BD-RB (v0.32.05). Changes for this release:- Disabled NAL-HRD processing in X264. Recent patch
releases have proven problematic on certain players
(mainly Panasonic). TSMUXER performs insertion of
necessary information, but the NAL-HRD patch was used
due to its greater degree of blu-ray compliancy. It
appears that this is no longer the case, or at least
that it isn't in current versions.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1462 without nal-hrd patch).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Hi jdobbs,
The new v0.32.05 (beta) download still has the old v0.32.04 (beta) .exe file in it. Please can you take a look? :thanks:

xtremevideoinc117
26th February 2010, 17:29
Having problems with 2012 blu ray and planet 51 BR. it plays but doesnt show the video, u can only hear the audio. the menu shows and plays perfect. any suggestions? thank u p.s i have the latest BD (feb 26)

Kampfwurstwasser
26th February 2010, 17:52
Having problems with 2012 blu ray and planet 51 BR. it plays but doesnt show the video, u can only hear the audio. the menu shows and plays perfect. any suggestions? thank u p.s i have the latest BD (feb 26)

I had the same Problem on my PS3 with Version 32.03.
Hope the new Version fixes this, otherwise i have to rollback to 31.08.

jdobbs
26th February 2010, 17:54
Hi jdobbs,
The new v0.32.05 (beta) download still has the old v0.32.04 (beta) .exe file in it. Please can you take a look? :thanks: Damn... yep.

I've just deleted that zip and have uploaded a new one with the correct EXE. Sorry.

So far this hasn't been the best of days... and I'm only a couple of hours into it. :(

jdobbs
26th February 2010, 19:26
Having problems with 2012 blu ray and planet 51 BR. it plays but doesnt show the video, u can only hear the audio. the menu shows and plays perfect. any suggestions? thank u p.s i have the latest BD (feb 26) Has that (2012) actually been released anywhere? It isn't supposed to be available until March 2nd here in the US... I only ask because I don't respond to bugs except on commercially authored/released discs. With the single exception of ripping with AnyDVD, preprocessing has become my worst enemy.

k-c-ksum
26th February 2010, 19:32
Dark knight vc1 interlaced causing rb to fail - encode fail, retrying. using latest build

is this a windows 7 issue, never had a problen with vc1 interlaced material when using vista :(

Kampfwurstwasser
26th February 2010, 19:32
Has that (2012) actually been released anywhere? It isn't supposed to be available until March 2nd here in the US... I only ask because I don't respond to bugs except on commercially authored/released discs. With the single exception of ripping with AnyDVD, preprocessing has become my worst enemy.

I dont think is has something to do with the bluray or a bad rip, because i had the same problems with only audio playing and no video on Public Enemies and Terminator 4 bd25 backups on my ps3 with version 32.03.

jdobbs
26th February 2010, 20:05
I dont think is has something to do with the bluray or a bad rip, because i had the same problems with only audio playing and no video on Public Enemies and Terminator 4 bd25 backups on my ps3 with version 32.03.Please take the time to read a few posts back from where I am right now you'd probably see that there is an issue that was fixed this morning related to the NAL-HRD patched X264 version that very probably is the source of your issue.

Sorry if I sound abrupt, but I'm having a very bad day and this issue is not making it any better.

The one real downside to buying a Sony standalone blu-ray player like the S360 is that the quality is so much better than the competition that I just don't always have the luxury of experiencing the same headaches and finding odd bugs that others do.

Kampfwurstwasser
26th February 2010, 20:18
Please take the time to read a few posts back from where I am right now you'd probably see that there is an issue that was fixed this morning related to the NAL-HRD patched X264 version that very probably is the source of your issue.

Sorry if I sound abrupt, but I'm having a very bad day and this issue is not making it any better.

The one real downside to buying a Sony standalone blu-ray player like the S360 is that the quality is so much better than the competition that I just don't always have the luxury of experiencing the same headaches others do.

Thanks for your quick response an sorry for annoying you^^.
Keep up the good work. :)

Capsbackup
26th February 2010, 21:14
The one real downside to buying a Sony standalone blu-ray player like the S360 is that the quality is so much better than the competition that I just don't always have the luxury of experiencing the same headaches and finding odd bugs that others do.

Happy to say I agree with you here! :)
It may not do Netflix or mkv, but it is excellent at Blu-Ray backups, full or movie only, to BD-5/9 and BD-R/RE.:D

Discoboy
26th February 2010, 22:16
V0.32.05 (beta) movie only 2-pass encoding = OK BD35 SAP playability :thanks:

k-c-ksum
26th February 2010, 22:50
Dark knight vc1 interlaced causing rb to fail - encode fail, retrying. using latest build

is this a windows 7 issue, never had a problen with vc1 interlaced material when using vista :(

deleted all preferred entries in the registry, now its workin :)

jdobbs
27th February 2010, 00:33
Thanks for your quick response an sorry for annoying you^^.
Keep up the good work. :)I'm more annoyed at me than you. :)

Ch3vr0n
27th February 2010, 08:04
Hey JDobbs, just ran into my first "issue". The encoding went fine, however the burning went not. IMGBurn opened up, and shortly thereafter closed immediately. I had to manually reburn the files to disc.

-----------------------
[21:51:42] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: TRANSFORMERS_D1_EU
- Input BD size: 42,95 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:17.398]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:51:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:51:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [21:51:48] Reencoding: VID_00013 (1 of 2)
- [21:51:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.201 frames
- [21:51:48] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:52:24] Video Encode complete
- [21:52:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:52:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:52:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [22:12:44] Reencoding: VID_00010 (2 of 2)
- [22:12:45] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [22:27:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 206.369 frames
- Bitrate: 15.290 Kbs
- [22:27:21] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:57:42] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:22:08] Video Encode complete
- [07:22:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:22:08] Multiplexing M2TS
[07:34:06]PHASE ONE complete
[07:34:06]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:34:06] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[07:34:31] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[07:34:31] BURNING BD structure to disc
- Burn-to-disc WAS NOT COMPLETED successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[07:34:37]JOB: TRANSFORMERS_D1_EU finished.


LEt me know if u need anythin else

Kampfwurstwasser
27th February 2010, 13:01
Just made a new Full Backup Bd25 on Terminator 4 with Version 32.05 and it works great on the PS3.

Data24
27th February 2010, 15:13
I've tested it also with Star Trek 11 Bonus and several BD-Rebuilder versions incl. the newest one but the same problem. Some m2ts files stay at 1080p. :confused:
I tried to convert the BluRay "Transformers 2 Bonus" (second bluray) to BD-9 (DVD-9). To decrease the amount of data i set the "resize 1080p - 720p" checkbox but only the first two m2ts files where resized. The avs-files generated for the other m2ts had to "LanczosResize" line so they where still 1080p. Any idea why BD-Rebuilder ignores the resize setting?

jdobbs
27th February 2010, 15:36
I've tested it also with Star Trek 11 Bonus and several BD-Rebuilder versions incl. the newest one but the same problem. Some m2ts files stay at 1080p. :confused:

There can be lots of reasons.

1. The source isn't 1080p. Lots of sources on BD are 720x480/576 -- especially on bonus discs.
2. If that particular source is flagged to be kept intact (menus for example)
3. The source is being left alone for some other reason (like embedded graphics that depend on size, etc.)
4. The stream will fit in the allocated space with its current state (so reencoding isn't needed).

So the bottom line is that is isn't a "problem" -- it is doing what it is supposed to do.

jdobbs
27th February 2010, 15:57
Hey JDobbs, just ran into my first "issue". The encoding went fine, however the burning went not. IMGBurn opened up, and shortly thereafter closed immediately. I had to manually reburn the files to disc.

-----------------------
...
[07:34:31] BURNING BD structure to disc
- Burn-to-disc WAS NOT COMPLETED successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[07:34:37]JOB: TRANSFORMERS_D1_EU finished.


LEt me know if u need anythin elseThat usually just means that the disc either wasn't seated properly, already had data on it, the image was too large, or the disc wasn't registered yet (was just inserted). In the end ImgBurn looked at the disc and said "I can't write to this right now." When it happens you just open up the drive, reinsert the disc, wait for it to register, and try again (click on "Burn Current Disc (with ImgBurn)" from the FILE menu).

Sophocles
27th February 2010, 16:21
When it happens you just open up the drive, reinsert the disc, wait for it to register, and try again (click on "Burn Current Disc (with ImgBurn)" from the FILE menu).

And don't forget to look for a thumb or finger print that's found its way onto the disc. I know someone personally who's experienced that simple error many times.:rolleyes:

k-c-ksum
27th February 2010, 20:23
interlaced encode playing pack juddery compaired to the original. Just backed up Batman Dark Knight, the extras are interlaced but play back fine. The reencode though is very juddery in comparison. Would this be down to a field order mix up? havent got a standalone player to try it on. Used TMT3 and also mpc but it still juddery. Noticable on the helicopter flyin/over on the shooting in imax section. The feature is siky smooth but the interlaced extras are unbarable :(

Race Guy
27th February 2010, 23:10
interlaced encode playing pack juddery compaired to the original. Just backed up Batman Dark Knight, the extras are interlaced but play back fine. The reencode though is very juddery in comparison. Would this be down to a field order mix up? havent got a standalone player to try it on. Used TMT3 and also mpc but it still juddery. Noticable on the helicopter flyin/over on the shooting in imax section. The feature is siky smooth but the interlaced extras are unbarable :(

Add
DEINTERLACE=0
to your ini file & see if that smooths 'em out.

DK
27th February 2010, 23:27
just wanted to report back that 32.05 works fine so far with different BD9 conversion i have done.

gwendal13
28th February 2010, 01:37
Problem with 32.05 with my BD 30. Don"t play BD 25.

31.08 works fine

007 only for yours eyes


Millenium and 30 days of night don't play at all with all versions

jdobbs
28th February 2010, 02:08
Problem with 32.05 with my BD 30. Don"t play BD 25.

31.08 works fine

007 only for yours eyes


Millenium and 30 days of night don't play at all with all versionsCan anyone else confirm issues with v0.32.05 and Panasonic players using BD-25?

Moviewatcher666
28th February 2010, 05:50
Can anyone else confirm issues with v0.32.05 and Panasonic players using BD-25?

I have had problems with Drag Me To Hell and Groundhog Day Region A BD25 Full Disk playing on Panasonic BD35. Used BD versions .31.08 (?), .32.02, .32.03 & .32.05. BD player will get to the studio video at beginning of disk and then freeze and won't go any further.

Had successful BD25 Region A burns of Dark Knight, Hangover, I Robot, Live Free or Die Hard, Monster vs. Aliens, Poltergeist, Ugly Truth, North By Northwest. All play on my Panasonic BD35 without any (for the most part) problems.

Any comments?

Thanks!

Tripledrop
28th February 2010, 10:41
I seem to be having similar problems (I think) with Metallica: Français pour une nuit. I have tried shrinking it twice now, and both times it loads the intros, the menu briefly appears on screen, then disappears, and you can't get it back (or watch the movie). Also there's no sound on the menu like there is originally.

Any ideas?

gwendal13
28th February 2010, 11:23
Problem with 32.05 with my BD 30. Don"t play BD 25.

31.08 works fine

007 only for yours eyes


Millenium and 30 days of night don't play at all with all versions


Millenium and 30 days of night region B: audio is played with blank screen the two are 24 fps

only for yours eye region B: audio is played but screen is freezed


:thanks:

Discoboy
28th February 2010, 11:34
Millenium and 30 days of night region B: audio is played with blank screen the two are 24 fps

Hi, does the BD30 have the HDMI option to turn off 24fps as does the later BD35 etc and if so did you try the option?

Discoboy
28th February 2010, 12:08
Can anyone else confirm issues with v0.32.05 and Panasonic players using BD-25?

Up until now I have only been interested to backup in movie only mode to BD5/9, but due to your request I purchased a BD-RE disk for testing purposes.

With v32.05 (beta) I made a full movie backup of Pandorum region B to BD25 with full HD audio kept + 2 pass encoding = OK BD35 SAP playability

gwendal13
28th February 2010, 13:13
Hi, does the BD30 have the HDMI option to turn off 24fps as does the later BD35 etc and if so did you try the option?

24p is for 23,976 fps

i'll test 30 days of night with 24p disabled



Operation thunderball play with BD30 et 32.05. Strange !!!! It appears to have the same BR structure.

Data24
28th February 2010, 14:22
aahh.. ok.. then i think the reason is that the files are flagged to be kept intact.. thanks.. i didn't know that this is possible.. :thanks:
There can be lots of reasons.

1. The source isn't 1080p. Lots of sources on BD are 720x480/576 -- especially on bonus discs.
2. If that particular source is flagged to be kept intact (menus for example)
3. The source is being left alone for some other reason (like embedded graphics that depend on size, etc.)
4. The stream will fit in the allocated space with its current state (so reencoding isn't needed).

So the bottom line is that is isn't a "problem" -- it is doing what it is supposed to do.

Willobee
28th February 2010, 14:44
I seem to be having similar problems (I think) with Metallica: Français pour une nuit. I have tried shrinking it twice now, and both times it loads the intros, the menu briefly appears on screen, then disappears, and you can't get it back (or watch the movie). Also there's no sound on the menu like there is originally.

Any ideas?

Try adding MIN_M2TS_SIZE=700 to the BDREBUILDER .ini file. You can copy and past it from the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. This should keep the menus from being re-encoded (I think this command means do not re-encode anything under 700 Mb). If you still have the problem try a larger number. I use this command this for all concert blu-rays because for some reason thier menus refuse to work after being re-encoded.

gwendal13
28th February 2010, 17:37
24p is for 23,976 fps

i'll test 30 days of night with 24p disabled



Operation thunderball play with BD30 et 32.05. Strange !!!! It appears to have the same BR structure.

30 days of night BD25 with 24p disabled on BD30 works.

i'll reencode with down-convert dts master audio. perhaps a problem with 24fps and dts ma when 24p actived.

Capsbackup
28th February 2010, 17:37
I'm not sure if this has been discussed before or has affected anyone else, but a recent full movie backup of the region A version of A Serious Man, to BD-9 had something I have never experienced before.
This movie has BD Live, and the AnyDVD HD rip keeps it working.( It is not disabled ) When the movie starts playing on the PC, it states that a fresh preview is being loaded from the internet, and then starts playing. When finished, returns to the main menu and when I select play the movie, it starts and plays perfectly fine.
Since I don't watch my movies this way I burn to DVD+R DL and watch on my Sony S360. The burn goes successfully with ImgBurn, but when I start the disc in the Sony S360, it starts to load and shows the play >, but only a black screen and no time clock moving.
Out of curiosity, I try this same disc on my older Sony BX-1, and now it works and starts to play, but no fresh preview is loaded from the internet, but just straight to the main menu. Press play movie, and all works perfectly.
So now I want to try again on the newer Sony S360, but first I remove the ethernet cable and 2GB memory stick, and now the disc works and plays the movie perfectly!
Could BD Live not be compaible with AVCHD/DVD media?
I have not tried but a few BD5/9 full movie backups, but usually do movie only. My full backups have been to BD-R/RE.
Perhaps this could be the cause of some reported "bugs", when in fact BD-RB is not the reason. :confused:

jdobbs
28th February 2010, 17:43
I'm not sure if this has been discussed before or has affected anyone else, but a recent full movie backup of the region A version of A Serious Man, to BD-9 had something I have never experienced before.
This movie has BD Live, and the AnyDVD HD rip keeps it working.( It is not disabled ) When the movie starts playing on the PC, it states that a fresh preview is being loaded from the internet, and then starts playing. When finished, returns to the main menu and when I select play the movie, it starts and plays perfectly fine.
Since I don't watch my movies this way I burn to DVD+R DL and watch on my Sony S360. The burn goes successfully with ImgBurn, but when I start the disc in the Sony S360, it starts to load and shows the play >, but only a black screen and no time clock moving.
Out of curiosity, I try this same disc on my older Sony BX-1, and now it works and starts to play, but no fresh preview is loaded from the internet, but just straight to the main menu. Press play movie, and all works perfectly.
So now I want to try again on the newer Sony S360, but first I remove the ethernet cable and 2GB memory stick, and now the disc works and plays the movie perfectly!
Could BD Live not be compaible with AVCHD/DVD media?
I have not tried but a few BD5/9 full movie backups, but usually do movie only. My full backups have been to BD-R/RE.
Perhaps this could be the cause of some reported "bugs", when in fact BD-RB is not the reason. :confused: I haven't been removing BD-Live, and as yet haven't had issues. I have "A Serious Man", and will see what happens when I back it up. There was a similar report a few pages back where selecting "Remove BD Live" in AnyDVD fixed an issue. It could be that I should recommend that all rips have that setting enabled... I'll test and see.

This certainly seems to have all the earmarks of someone using "BD Live" as a copy protection mechanism, doesn't it?

Tripledrop
28th February 2010, 18:04
Try adding MIN_M2TS_SIZE=700 to the BDREBUILDER .ini file. You can copy and past it from the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. This should keep the menus from being re-encoded (I think this command means do not re-encode anything under 700 Mb). If you still have the problem try a larger number. I use this command this for all concert blu-rays because for some reason thier menus refuse to work after being re-encoded.

Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a go :)

Ch3vr0n
28th February 2010, 19:01
That usually just means that the disc either wasn't seated properly, already had data on it, the image was too large, or the disc wasn't registered yet (was just inserted). In the end ImgBurn looked at the disc and said "I can't write to this right now." When it happens you just open up the drive, reinsert the disc, wait for it to register, and try again (click on "Burn Current Disc (with ImgBurn)" from the FILE menu).


Weird, cause the disc was seated nicely no finger prints no nothing. Registered fine in Windows Explorer. I did do a manual project burn and resulted in IMGBurn opening and closing again immediately after all in about 2 seconds. However when i fired up IMGBurn manually and went to the build mode to write no problems there. Burnt without a hitch and the backup itself also played perfectly on the standalone panasonic. As all my full disc backups have and that's about 20 discs or something.

I'm about to start a new backup process for mummy 3 and ill post again bout the results.

colinhunt
28th February 2010, 23:49
Ohh-kay, I finally had a moment to check some of my previous encodes, all of which worked perfectly in Arcsoft TMT3. I burned a few of them on BD-R discs earlier today and played them on a PS3 and an Oppo BD-player. All discs made with 0.32.02 and 0.32.03 go straight into the rubbish bin, as the video stream is incompatible with both SA players. There was one exception which worked, but that was because the video stream was a direct copy, i.e. no re-encoding.

I was pretty sure the culprit with 32.02 and 32.03 had been NAL-HRD, but a few encodes made with 31.08 played fine in both stand-alones. According to changes.txt NAL-HRD had already been implemented in 31.08, however.

Capsbackup
1st March 2010, 02:16
All discs made with 0.32.02 and 0.32.03 go straight into the rubbish bin,


It is always a good idea to test to BD-RE for compatibility before burning to BD-R. :rolleyes:
Software players can play discs that standalones may not. Perhaps, before you discard those ones, you could try them on other mfg. Blu-Ray players to see if they work on a brand different than yours. :cool:

Ch3vr0n
1st March 2010, 03:16
As promised, i'm reporting back. The mummy backup job just finished without a hitch in about 8hrs. Standard duration here on this rig. It was probably a one time hiccup thingy. Just wanted to let you know, keep up the good work.

Nico8583
1st March 2010, 10:14
Hello,

I use BD Rebuilder and it works fine on my Windows 7 32 bit.
I am currently testing the Strict AVCHD compatibility with the PS3.

But I would like to install Windows 7 64 bit on my computer. Does BD Rebuilder is compatible? I read in the introduction should not modify the files provided with the software.

Thank you.

colinhunt
1st March 2010, 10:44
It is always a good idea to test to BD-RE for compatibility before burning to BD-R. :rolleyes:
And bears crap in the woods, I know. I would certainly have tested with BD-RE, but as it happens, every single encode was slightly too large to fit on an RE. That was again not BD-RB's fault.

Software players can play discs that standalones may not. Perhaps, before you discard those ones, you could try them on other mfg. Blu-Ray players to see if they work on a brand different than yours. :cool:
Yeah, I will.

Tripledrop
1st March 2010, 11:25
Hello,

I use BD Rebuilder and it works fine on my Windows 7 32 bit.
I am currently testing the Strict AVCHD compatibility with the PS3.

But I would like to install Windows 7 64 bit on my computer. Does BD Rebuilder is compatible? I read in the introduction should not modify the files provided with the software.

Thank you.

I use it on win 7 x64

jstreit29
1st March 2010, 11:56
BD-Rebuilder has worked flawlessly for me, with just one exception. Each time I attempt to do a movie-only backup of Walk Hard to BD-25, I get the following error: "BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1605 [10:02:19] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605." Here's the log:

[09:53:33] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: WALK_HARD_DISC1_NA_P2
- Input BD size: 33.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:00:19.628]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:53:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:53:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00000]
- [10:02:19] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 12 min 0 sec
[10:11:00] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Any suggestions or information regarding this error would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Nico8583
1st March 2010, 14:13
I use it on win 7 x64
Thank you. Did you use versions of FFDShow, Matroska and Avisynth are on page 1 for Windows 7 x64?

jdobbs
1st March 2010, 14:48
Ohh-kay, I finally had a moment to check some of my previous encodes, all of which worked perfectly in Arcsoft TMT3. I burned a few of them on BD-R discs earlier today and played them on a PS3 and an Oppo BD-player. All discs made with 0.32.02 and 0.32.03 go straight into the rubbish bin, as the video stream is incompatible with both SA players. There was one exception which worked, but that was because the video stream was a direct copy, i.e. no re-encoding.

I was pretty sure the culprit with 32.02 and 32.03 had been NAL-HRD, but a few encodes made with 31.08 played fine in both stand-alones. According to changes.txt NAL-HRD had already been implemented in 31.08, however.Yes. I've been using NAL-HRD for some time now, but there were some recent changes...

jdobbs
1st March 2010, 14:54
BD-Rebuilder has worked flawlessly for me, with just one exception. Each time I attempt to do a movie-only backup of Walk Hard to BD-25, I get the following error: "BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1605 [10:02:19] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605." Here's the log:

[09:53:33] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: WALK_HARD_DISC1_NA_P2
- Input BD size: 33.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:00:19.628]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:53:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:53:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00000]
- [10:02:19] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 12 min 0 sec
[10:11:00] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Any suggestions or information regarding this error would be most appreciated. Thanks. Weird. That error happens in a small loop where files are renamed (1605). It gets a name from the operating system, and then renames it. The error 53 means that the file to be renamed doesn't exist. I don't know how that is possible...

Capsbackup
1st March 2010, 16:21
I would certainly have tested with BD-RE, but as it happens, every single encode was slightly too large to fit on an RE. That was again not BD-RB's fault.


If the BD-RE is formatted with IMGBurn, and if you go to settings, and select " Prefer Format Without Spare Areas ", your BD-RE will now be very equivalent in size to a BD-R.
This is another reason jdobbs leaves some room in his calculations for encoding, as to try to prevent this. :rolleyes:

colinhunt
1st March 2010, 16:28
If the BD-RE is formatted with IMGBurn, and if you go to settings, and select " Prefer Format Without Spare Areas ", your BD-RE will now be very equivalent in size to a BD-R.
All my BD-RE discs came pre-formatted with spare areas, and reformatting them to a larger size can not be achieved with Quick format or on-the-fly while burning the disc. Yeah, I can't be arsed to reformat them, being an impatient bastich :)

k-c-ksum
1st March 2010, 16:51
Add
DEINTERLACE=0
to your ini file & see if that smooths 'em out.

still a mess :( which command can i set to just throw away the odd or even fields and have it
encoded progressive.?

Capsbackup
1st March 2010, 18:25
All my BD-RE discs came pre-formatted with spare areas, and reformatting them to a larger size can not be achieved with Quick format or on-the-fly while burning the disc. Yeah, I can't be arsed to reformat them, being an impatient bastich :)

You are correct, a Full format is required, and it takes me, though only once is necessary, about 1:45:00.:cool:

colinhunt
1st March 2010, 19:09
Yes. I've been using NAL-HRD for some time now, but there were some recent changes...
I re-did one of the malfunctioning ones with 0.32.05 and burned it on a BD-RE. Works fine on the PS3 and Oppo 83.

drmih
1st March 2010, 20:11
I tend to do most full backups to bd-9 and have been very pleased with the quality. However, I have always thought that the 'extras' are not very good resolution wise. I don't use 'quicker for extras' and always use 'Highest (Very Slow)'. I have just done a disc (Star Trek - Original Series) which had an extra which was 480i and it's such poor quality (large pixels and very soft images) that I haven't even thought of burning it to a disc. I tried redoing it with SD to HD set, but that was no better and made a mess of the menus (the top third was just a smudge).

As a side issue, I would also say that these discs use multiple angles to allow you to watch the original episode, or one with new CGI (the M2TS files are broken up and jump around depending on which version you use). The bd-9 discs confuse Sony SAPs and forget the sound or get out of sync - they seem okay on another player I have or on a HTPC.

mochevolete
1st March 2010, 22:52
Hi, just upgraded to latest version of BD-rebuilder, trying to do a 25GB re-encode of "There will be blood",
I have, from the beginning in the new PC, ffdshow ver 3254 installed, but now I had this error:
[22:31:36] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: THEREWILLBEBLOOD_EU
- Input BD size: 37,51 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:38:25.746]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:31:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:31:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [22:45:37] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 1)
- [22:45:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 227.910 frames
- Bitrate: 12.302 Kbs
- [22:45:37] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3254)
- FFDSHOW: AVC is not set to libavcodec
[22:45:38] - Failed video encode, aborted

VC-1 is set to wmv9, should I downgrade to ffdshow 3211 ?

oh and the "AVC is not set to libavcodec" is ininfluent

thanks, Nik

Capsbackup
1st March 2010, 23:16
@mochevolete;
Try this:
uninstall your ffdshow, haali and avisynth. Reboot. Download the supported ones at the first page of this bug report thread. Install them.
Then unzip a fresh new BD-RB, right click on "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" and select run it as administrator."
Then, if that does not work, right click on BD_Rebuilder.EXE and select "Run as Administrator" .
You should be ready to go.

jefrey
1st March 2010, 23:48
Here we go again :(
I have done a "sucsessfull backup of Eagle Eye, and the whole F** movie is async...
Then i tried to backup My Man on Fire Disc aaand, let me see.. let me see what happen.. Pass2 freezing again und x264 crashs

damned Win7..(for that money,what i*ve paid, i could by some new Bd discs :D )

Now i'm going back to windows xp.( never touch a running system)

Or can you Port your Your Programm to MacOSX?:devil: ;) *joke*

Tripledrop
2nd March 2010, 00:02
Try adding MIN_M2TS_SIZE=700 to the BDREBUILDER .ini file. You can copy and past it from the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. This should keep the menus from being re-encoded (I think this command means do not re-encode anything under 700 Mb). If you still have the problem try a larger number. I use this command this for all concert blu-rays because for some reason thier menus refuse to work after being re-encoded.

Thanks for the advice, worked perfectly :)

jdobbs
2nd March 2010, 02:34
still a mess :( which command can i set to just throw away the odd or even fields and have it
encoded progressive.? That's what happens without that line...

LAustinTX
2nd March 2010, 02:37
BD-Rebuilder has worked flawlessly for me, with just one exception. Each time I attempt to do a movie-only backup of Walk Hard to BD-25, I get the following error: "BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1605 [10:02:19] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605." Here's the log:

[09:53:33] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: WALK_HARD_DISC1_NA_P2
- Input BD size: 33.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:00:19.628]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:53:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:53:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00000]
- [10:02:19] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 12 min 0 sec
[10:11:00] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Any suggestions or information regarding this error would be most appreciated. Thanks.

I don't know if this will be helpful, but i get the exact same error on Sin City (Disc1, US) when I try to do a Movie only encode with one english or all english tracks (Tried both since I got the error initially on keeping only one english track.) No problem when I do a full disc encode of the same movie, with all english tracks. For what it's worth.....

Also, I'm new to the forum but wanted to give my props to jdobbs. My head hurts just thinking about how hard you must have worked on this application. I'm very thankful for your efforts!

eTiMaGo
2nd March 2010, 12:00
Has that (2012) actually been released anywhere? It isn't supposed to be available until March 2nd here in the US... I only ask because I don't respond to bugs except on commercially authored/released discs. With the single exception of ripping with AnyDVD, preprocessing has become my worst enemy.

Not sure if anyone has answered this yet, but it's been out officially in Asia since about a month now :) Had no problems converting it though!

jdobbs
2nd March 2010, 14:33
Hi, just upgraded to latest version of BD-rebuilder, trying to do a 25GB re-encode of "There will be blood",
I have, from the beginning in the new PC, ffdshow ver 3254 installed, but now I had this error:
[22:31:36] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: THEREWILLBEBLOOD_EU
- Input BD size: 37,51 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:38:25.746]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:31:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:31:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [22:45:37] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 1)
- [22:45:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 227.910 frames
- Bitrate: 12.302 Kbs
- [22:45:37] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3254)
- FFDSHOW: AVC is not set to libavcodec
[22:45:38] - Failed video encode, aborted

VC-1 is set to wmv9, should I downgrade to ffdshow 3211 ?

oh and the "AVC is not set to libavcodec" is ininfluent

thanks, Nik3133 is what I am using and it is stable. I'm not sure why, but it seems that with each release of FFDSHOW it is hit-or-miss as to whether there will be issues. Also, make sure you use the 32 bit version.

"AVC is not set to libavcodec" is just telling you that it found something that wasn't still set to the way it originally configures it. It looks at each of the FFDSHOW settings anytime it gets an "Encode failed" error.

eTiMaGo
2nd March 2010, 15:48
problem problem problem....

I updated to 32.02 about a week ago, but didn't convert anything til a couple days ago... And the output came out with all blank video... So I saw that 32.05 had been released meanwhile, got that, and also uninstalled then redownloaded FFDshow, AViSynth, and Haali from the first page of this thread, just in case there's a new version of those required.

Now, different problem.. One movie came out just fine, and now another one is giving me the "VC-1 not set to wmv9" error. But, I am on an XP machine and have WMV11 installed, and FFDshow set to disabled for VC-1. If I do try to set it as wmv9, then there's just an Encoding Failed error... any ideas?

DK
2nd March 2010, 16:55
Sorry to say that running the FULL movie backup test on DVD/DVD-DL is not possible these days.

My Samsung 1600 quit playing BDs (DVDs still worked) and i had to sent it to Samsung's service.
Meanwhile i only have a Philipps player for as a long as the Samsung is serviced.

My Samsung is back from service and the FULL movie test with jar and bdjo files as BD5 does NOT run here.

I'm running another FULL movie BD5 without jar/bdjo now because i'm not even sure the Samsung will accept anything but strict avchd.

jdobbs
2nd March 2010, 18:10
problem problem problem....

I updated to 32.02 about a week ago, but didn't convert anything til a couple days ago... And the output came out with all blank video... So I saw that 32.05 had been released meanwhile, got that, and also uninstalled then redownloaded FFDshow, AViSynth, and Haali from the first page of this thread, just in case there's a new version of those required.

Now, different problem.. One movie came out just fine, and now another one is giving me the "VC-1 not set to wmv9" error. But, I am on an XP machine and have WMV11 installed, and FFDshow set to disabled for VC-1. If I do try to set it as wmv9, then there's just an Encoding Failed error... any ideas? I really have no idea -- but either should work ("disabled" or "wmv9") if you have WMV11 installed on an XP machine. Is it VC-1 that you are encoding at the time? The error message just looks to see what is set...

I really wish FFMS2.DLL worked for all video types, it would sure make life a lot easier. I could get rid of the FFDSHOW requirement and the Windows 7 headaches associated with preferred DirectShow codecs.

eTiMaGo
2nd March 2010, 18:18
I really have no idea -- but either should work ("disabled" or "wmv9") if you have WMV11 installed on an XP machine. Is it VC-1 that you are encoding at the time? The error message just looks to see what is set...

Yes, this movie is VC-1...

I think it's time to reinstall that PC anyway, it's getting to be very sluggish otherwise...

Funny thing though, I managed to convert the same movie before (but ended up with blanked out video)...

DK
2nd March 2010, 19:29
Next testrun with FULL movie BD5 but original DTS audio stream failed as well, now running Full movie BD5 with audio converted to AC3.

mochevolete
2nd March 2010, 19:30
@mochevolete;
Try this:
uninstall your ffdshow, haali and avisynth. Reboot. Download the supported ones at the first page of this bug report thread. Install them.
Then unzip a fresh new BD-RB, right click on "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" and select run it as administrator."
Then, if that does not work, right click on BD_Rebuilder.EXE and select "Run as Administrator" .
You should be ready to go.
thanks for the tip :)
it worked but ... I used last stable ffdshow ver (3285) because the 3133 does not support HD audio pass through

Nik

jdobbs
2nd March 2010, 20:34
thanks for the tip :)
it worked but ... I used last stable ffdshow ver (3285) because the 3133 does not support HD audio pass through

Nik

That's your choice, of course, but I can't guarantee it will work.

Ch3vr0n
3rd March 2010, 00:44
Encountered a rather "serious" bug here i think. BDRB was halfway through a 5hr process when it suddenly jumped to "complete" and started remuxing the m2ts file. Below the log

-----------------------
[22:57:39] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: STARTREK11D1EU
- Input BD size: 39,94 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:06:50.269]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:57:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:57:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [23:07:29] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [23:07:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 182.464 frames
- Bitrate: 16.023 Kbs
- [23:07:29] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:59:32] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:37:08] Video Encode complete
- [00:37:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:37:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00000.meta
- Matroska parser: read error at pos 4233965568
[00:40:44] - Failed to build structure, aborted

I've started a new rebuild to see if it happens again. I'd love some info on why this happened though

Moviewatcher666
3rd March 2010, 04:26
Try adding MIN_M2TS_SIZE=700 to the BDREBUILDER .ini file. You can copy and past it from the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. This should keep the menus from being re-encoded (I think this command means do not re-encode anything under 700 Mb). If you still have the problem try a larger number. I use this command this for all concert blu-rays because for some reason thier menus refuse to work after being re-encoded.

Hey Willobee,

I have been trying for weeks to get Groundhog Day Region A to work in my Panasonic BD-35. I ripped and transcoded as BD25 full disk and the studio logo would play but would go no further. It would not play the Blu-ray ad video or the menus.

I tried your trick above and lo and behold, my Panasonic will now play the BD25 complete with menus. All other movies that I have tried (except for Drag Me To Hell) worked so I could not figure out why Groundhog Day would not. Now I am going to try Drag Me To Hell with the same setting and see what happens.

So the Panasonic BD-35 is very picky about what get transcoded.

Thank you for your tip. I am very please that it worked.

Jdobbs, thanks again for the great program and all the hard work you are putting into it. A donation will definitely be coming your way.

mochevolete
3rd March 2010, 08:31
That's your choice, of course, but I can't guarantee it will work.it's working :)
right now is encoding

Nik

ViolentA79
3rd March 2010, 13:44
Not sure what happened here. One of my first errors...

-----------------------
[21:06:18] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: 2012
- Input BD size: 38.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:53:02.914]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:06:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:06:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00423]
- [21:06:21] Reencoding: VID_00423 (1 of 9)
- [21:06:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 173 frames
- [21:06:21] Reencoding: VID_00423, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:06:30] Video Encode complete
- [21:06:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:06:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:06:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00398]
- [21:06:36] Reencoding: VID_00398 (2 of 9)
- [21:06:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
- [21:06:36] Reencoding: VID_00398, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:07:09] Video Encode complete
- [21:07:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:07:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:07:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00433]
- [21:07:16] Reencoding: VID_00433 (3 of 9)
- [21:07:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,489 frames
- [21:07:16] Reencoding: VID_00433, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:11] Video Encode complete
- [21:08:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:08:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:08:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00742]
- [21:08:22] Reencoding: VID_00742 (4 of 9)
- [21:08:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,521 frames
- [21:08:22] Reencoding: VID_00742, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:10:06] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:10:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:10:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00504]
- [21:10:21] Reencoding: VID_00504 (5 of 9)
- [21:10:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,505 frames
- [21:10:21] Reencoding: VID_00504, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:12:45] Video Encode complete
- [21:12:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:12:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:12:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00450]
- [21:13:01] Reencoding: VID_00450 (6 of 9)
- [21:13:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,529 frames
- [21:13:01] Reencoding: VID_00450, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:15:31] Video Encode complete
- [21:15:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:15:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:15:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00503]
- [21:15:50] Reencoding: VID_00503 (7 of 9)
- [21:15:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,153 frames
- [21:15:50] Reencoding: VID_00503, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:18:40] Video Encode complete
- [21:18:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:18:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:18:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00428]
- [21:19:03] Reencoding: VID_00428 (8 of 9)
- [21:19:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,091 frames
- [21:19:03] Reencoding: VID_00428, Pass 1 of 1
[21:21:57]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[21:22:35] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: 2012
- Input BD size: 38.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:53:02.914]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:22:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:22:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00423]
- [21:22:40] Reencoding: VID_00423 (1 of 9)
- [21:22:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 173 frames
- [21:22:40] Reencoding: VID_00423, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:22:48] Video Encode complete
- [21:22:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:22:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:22:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00398]
- [21:22:53] Reencoding: VID_00398 (2 of 9)
- [21:22:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,440 frames
- [21:22:53] Reencoding: VID_00398, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:23:27] Video Encode complete
- [21:23:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:23:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:23:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00433]
- [21:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00433 (3 of 9)
- [21:23:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,489 frames
- [21:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00433, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:24:28] Video Encode complete
- [21:24:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:24:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:24:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00742]
- [21:24:38] Reencoding: VID_00742 (4 of 9)
- [21:24:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,521 frames
- [21:24:38] Reencoding: VID_00742, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:26:14] Video Encode complete
- [21:26:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:26:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:26:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00504]
- [21:26:30] Reencoding: VID_00504 (5 of 9)
- [21:26:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,505 frames
- [21:26:30] Reencoding: VID_00504, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:28:50] Video Encode complete
- [21:28:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:28:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:28:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00450]
- [21:29:06] Reencoding: VID_00450 (6 of 9)
- [21:29:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,529 frames
- [21:29:06] Reencoding: VID_00450, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:31:25] Video Encode complete
- [21:31:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:31:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:31:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00503]
- [21:31:42] Reencoding: VID_00503 (7 of 9)
- [21:31:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,153 frames
- [21:31:42] Reencoding: VID_00503, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:34:20] Video Encode complete
- [21:34:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:34:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:34:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00428]
- [21:34:42] Reencoding: VID_00428 (8 of 9)
- [21:34:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,091 frames
- [21:34:42] Reencoding: VID_00428, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:37:43] Video Encode complete
- [21:37:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:37:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:37:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00740]
- [21:58:32] Reencoding: VID_00740 (9 of 9)
- [21:58:32] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [22:21:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 227,040 frames
- Bitrate: 12,359 Kbs
- [22:21:13] Reencoding: VID_00740, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:01:47] Video Encode complete
- [01:01:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:01:47] Multiplexing M2TS
[01:16:25]PHASE ONE complete
[01:16:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [01:16:25] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [07:41:34] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
[07:41:39] - Aborted at user request
-----------------------

Revgen
3rd March 2010, 14:53
Try adding MIN_M2TS_SIZE=700 to the BDREBUILDER .ini file. You can copy and past it from the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. This should keep the menus from being re-encoded (I think this command means do not re-encode anything under 700 Mb). If you still have the problem try a larger number. I use this command this for all concert blu-rays because for some reason thier menus refuse to work after being re-encoded.Hey Willobee,

I have been trying for weeks to get Groundhog Day Region A to work in my Panasonic BD-35. I ripped and transcoded as BD25 full disk and the studio logo would play but would go no further. It would not play the Blu-ray ad video or the menus.

I tried your trick above and lo and behold, my Panasonic will now play the BD25 complete with menus. All other movies that I have tried (except for Drag Me To Hell) worked so I could not figure out why Groundhog Day would not. Now I am going to try Drag Me To Hell with the same setting and see what happens.

So the Panasonic BD-35 is very picky about what get transcoded.

Thank you for your tip. I am very please that it worked.

Jdobbs, thanks again for the great program and all the hard work you are putting into it. A donation will definitely be coming your way.

From what I understand, Menus use a different MiniCR than the movie does. That may be causing the problem.

jdobbs
3rd March 2010, 15:21
it's working :)
right now is encoding

Nik Thanks. I guess it's time I started testing a newer release, as 3133 is getting old.

jdobbs
3rd March 2010, 15:24
Not sure what happened here. One of my first errors...

...

01:16:25]PHASE ONE complete
[01:16:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [01:16:25] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [07:41:34] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
[07:41:39] - Aborted at user request
-----------------------That's an overflow error, and probably means I made a poor choice in type of variable somewhere in that section of code. I'll check it out. I haven't bought my copy of 2012 yet, but was planning to do so.

Capsbackup
3rd March 2010, 15:53
My BD9 full backup of 2012, region A, on XP Pro went through perfectly! :)
I did have secondary video/audio disabled though.

jdobbs
3rd March 2010, 17:02
@ViolentA79

What did you use to rip 2012? I've had a few instances reported recently of oddities happening with DVDFab rips. I always use AnyDVD.

At the point you experienced the error (2203) BD-RB is in a loop copying unchanged files from the source to the target... that's a weird place to get an error.

tonimacarronis
3rd March 2010, 17:14
-----------------------
[17:12:36] BD Rebuilder v0.32.04 (beta)
- Source: UNDERWORLD_EVOLUTION
- Input BD size: 32,54 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:38:06.856]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:12:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:12:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [17:12:37] Reencoding: VID_00025 (1 of 23)
- [17:12:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
- Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 489 frames
- [17:12:37] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [17:12:37] Video Encode complete
- [17:12:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:12:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00025.meta
- Can't open file: C:\WORKING_BDREBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_00025.AVS.MKV
[17:12:37] - Failed to build structure, aborted

jdobbs
3rd March 2010, 17:45
-----------------------
[17:12:36] BD Rebuilder v0.32.04 (beta)
- Source: UNDERWORLD_EVOLUTION
- Input BD size: 32,54 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:38:06.856]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:12:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:12:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [17:12:37] Reencoding: VID_00025 (1 of 23)
- [17:12:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
- Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 489 frames
- [17:12:37] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [17:12:37] Video Encode complete
- [17:12:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:12:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00025.meta
- Can't open file: C:\WORKING_BDREBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_00025.AVS.MKV
[17:12:37] - Failed to build structure, abortedIt couldn't encode the segment -- probably because of CODEC issues. Look in FFDSHOW setup and make sure you have MPEG-2 set to "libavcodec". If that is correct, look and make sure you don't have any "codec packs" installed. They can screw up things. Check and make sure you are using FFDSHOW v3133 and AVISYNTH v2.57.

Upgrade to v0.32.05 (see the first post of this thread). The one you are using has issues.

Macota
3rd March 2010, 18:37
Ok, I uninstalled everything and reinstalled the software listed at the beginning of this guide. A/V extracting is only using 1-15% of my cpu even on normal and it is taking forever. Then it just errors out when going to decode stating ffdshow (3133). If I try to run REG_MSCOMCTL under admin it just gives me an error regarding mscomctl.ocx. The exact error I cannot recall but can get it when I get home. I have also tried deleting and using a new instance of BD Rebuilder.

The first time I ran BD Rebuilder it had to make a registry change to DirectShow btw. Dont know if this is the same thing as the REG file is trying to do but I would assume it would let me rerun it but there must be another problem.

Just a side note, if I try to use Shark007 codecs the A/V extract (if it runs without an x264 error) is very fast, using 90%+ of both my cores.

If anyone has any ideas or has had these problems, I would appreciate the help.

Edit: I will post the log and exact errors when I get home tonight.

jdobbs
3rd March 2010, 22:22
Your post isn't making any sense. You're telling me that somehow the codecs are affecting the extract when in fact the two are completely unrelated. Then you tell me that you get an error when you try to run REG_MSCOMCTL... and I can't see why you are even running it since you only need to if you get an error saying "MSCOMCTL isn't installed". The error is probably telling you it won't register it because it's already registered. Last you tell me that installing the Shark007 codecs somehow miraculously makes the audio extract go faster... even though the extract is done by TSMUXER and never references the codecs in any manner whatsoever (and hardly uses any CPU).

In other words... huh????

I think you are confused. Something else is going on with your computer.

Macota
3rd March 2010, 23:41
Your post isn't making any sense. You're telling me that somehow the codecs are affecting the extract when in fact the two are completely unrelated. Then you tell me that you get an error when you try to run REG_MSCOMCTL... and I can't see why you are even running it since you only need to if you get an error saying "MSCOMCTL isn't installed". The error is probably telling you it won't register it because it's already registered. Last you tell me that installing the Shark007 codecs somehow miraculously makes the audio extract go faster... even though the extract is done by TSMUXER and never references the codecs in any manner whatsoever (and hardly uses any CPU).

In other words... huh????

I think you are confused. Something else is going on with your computer.

What dont you understand?

With Shark007 the a/v extract goes very fast if it starts at all. Most of the time it will just popup an x264 error. The exact error I have to retrieve when I get home. Why did I tell you this? I don't know, because I thought the more information I give the better someone could help me. I have absolutely no idea why Shark007 would allow BD Rebuilder to extract the a/v quicker but it does for me. I can't use it though because of the x264 error I receive.

When I uninstall Shark007 and just install the recommended software at the beginning of this page the a/v extract goes extremely slow, taking probably 2 hours to extract and only using 1-15% of my CPU the whole time. I didn't know if this is supposed to be a CPU intensive process or what software it uses, I just know that it seems to take unreasonably long based on what others are saying on here.

Once it is done extracting the a/v it begins to encode or decode (whichever it is) but spits back a very basic error, again I have to retreive this info when I get home. It basically just says something like the error is ffdshow (3133). If I install a different version of ffdshow it gives the exact same error but changes the version number of course.

You say that it just uses tsmuxer, is this built in or is it your own version? I ask because using the stand alone tsmuxer it is very fast for me, often taking about 30min. Using Ripbot it demuxes files in about the same amount of time.

I can't say for certain there isn't a problem with my system but the only issue I appear to be having is with BD Rebuilder or one of the required pieces of software it uses.

Why did I run the REG_MSCOMCTL? Because searching through this page one user suggested to another that it be done and since I was uninstalling everything and starting from scratch I thought I should too.

@mochevolete;
Try this:
uninstall your ffdshow, haali and avisynth. Reboot. Download the supported ones at the first page of this bug report thread. Install them.
Then unzip a fresh new BD-RB, right click on "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" and select run it as administrator."
Then, if that does not work, right click on BD_Rebuilder.EXE and select "Run as Administrator" .
You should be ready to go.

jdobbs
4th March 2010, 00:02
Sigh... I understand what you said perfectly. But I'm telling you it is nonsense.

I'm done with this conversation... you're looking for an argument and I don't have time for it.

Macota
4th March 2010, 01:13
Sigh... I understand what you said perfectly. But I'm telling you it is nonsense.

I'm done with this conversation... you're looking for an argument and I don't have time for it.

You understand, yet you say my post doesn't make sense. So clearly you don't understand. Btw, I am not trying to start an argument. If I wanted that there are a lot more creative ways to go about it. It certainly looks like you are looking for an argument though, saying what I am telling you is nonsense.

Please, don't get defensive about your software. I am just asking for help. If you have nothing to contribute then by all means do ignore my posts. However, saying it must just be my computer is a cop out. I understand this program is in beta and might not work with all setups but that is not at the fault of my system. It is a limitation of the software.

Also, I was not saying that ffdshow was the reason for or against a/v extract running fast or slow. I merly relaying what I was seeing to happen on my computer. If you choose to disbelieve me that that is fine.

Truthfully, I am here because I don't understand how all this works. I believe I said that in another post. Please don't fall under the impression that I know every in and out of decoding, encoding or recoding.

So, does ANYONE ELSE have any ideas on what might the problem be or has anyone else had any of these specific problems?

Thanks

Priapismic
4th March 2010, 01:17
Wow, just wow. How you get along with anyone I dont understand. There is much that you do not understand.

jdobbs
4th March 2010, 01:33
Wow, just wow. How you get along with anyone I dont understand. Yeah, I guess working hundreds of hours building a package that I just give to people for free isn't enough. I should also go over to everyone's house and sing "cum-bah-yah" with them to make sure they aren't offended when I state simple facts.

Macota
4th March 2010, 01:54
Yeah, I guess working hundreds of hours building a package that I just give to people for free isn't enough. I should also go over to everyone's house and sing "cum-bah-yah" with them to make sure they aren't offended when I state simple facts.

Go read the first response you typed to me on the other thread. You have had a problem since the first word you typed.

Did I ever once say I didn't appreciate the work you put into the program? No, I was just asking for help with it.

Did I specifically ask you for help? Absolutely not!

Did I ever say that I expected anything more of you? Nope!

The program isn't working for me and you just jump to the conclusion that what I am saying is nonsense and the problem is on my end. Yeah, you are really trying to help people out. I rather you not respond at all then act the way you are. You have some serious social issues.

You know what forget it, if I have to post in this thread for help it isn't worth it. Not letting you take whatever frustration you have out on me.

Good luck with the program .. and the attitude.

jdobbs
4th March 2010, 02:03
Any time you have to write more than one paragraph as a response, you are defending yourself -- not making a point. This is a thread for bug reports, not arguments. In my second response I said that is what you were looking for (an argument), and your last two posts have only proven that point.

Do you honestly think your need to be perceived as "right" isn't obvious in your responses? I explained clearly in my first response that there is something else at fault because the codec pack is not involved in the extraction. That should have been enough -- but you had to then respond with a lengthy diatribe to defend your position. If you truly want to "understand how all this works" then listen when you are told.

Suck it up and move on. I'm trying to do some real work here.

Willobee
4th March 2010, 02:38
Hey Willobee,

I have been trying for weeks to get Groundhog Day Region A to work in my Panasonic BD-35. I ripped and transcoded as BD25 full disk and the studio logo would play but would go no further. It would not play the Blu-ray ad video or the menus.

I tried your trick above and lo and behold, my Panasonic will now play the BD25 complete with menus. All other movies that I have tried (except for Drag Me To Hell) worked so I could not figure out why Groundhog Day would not. Now I am going to try Drag Me To Hell with the same setting and see what happens.

So the Panasonic BD-35 is very picky about what get transcoded.

Thank you for your tip. I am very please that it worked.

Jdobbs, thanks again for the great program and all the hard work you are putting into it. A donation will definitely be coming your way.
@moviewatcher666

Not my trick. I learned this by searching and reading this thread. My advice to anyone with questions about this program is to do the same. Rather than post the question search and read you shall find an answer to your questions.

@jodobbs

Your hard work is very much appreciated by all, anyways hang in there and thanks for all of your efforts.

Moviewatcher666
4th March 2010, 04:22
@moviewatcher666

Not my trick. I learned this by searching and reading this thread. My advice to anyone with questions about this program is to do the same. Rather than post the question search and read you shall find an answer to your questions.

@jodobbs

Your hard work is very much appreciated by all, anyways hang in there and thanks for all of your efforts.

Hey Willobee,

I thought the problem was solved until I tested my BD25 of Groundhog Day a little more.

What works:
The menu, playing movie from the menu, selecting audio and subtitle options from the menu, scene selection from the menu and only some special features from the menu (deleted scenes, previews).

What doesn't work:
3 of the special feature videos selected from the special features menu. The video freezes and I have to stop or eject.

I used PROCESS_SECONDARY=0 (audio is DTS Express and doesn't work anyway) & MIN_M2TS_SIZE=700 BD Rebuilder .32.05.

Any other suggestion to try to have it work 100%? Appreciate any suggestions

Thanks for reading!

Revgen
4th March 2010, 04:59
^I honestly have no idea. And I don't have time to rent and watch the Groundhog Day BD, so I can't really investigate anything.

My suggestions.

1) Look at the videos and see what's different about each of them. Resolution, Framerate, audio track, etc.

2) Try creating a custom blu-ray with just the special feature video (recompressed, of course) and see if your player plays it. The problem may be the BD menu structure and not the video.

meadrocks
4th March 2010, 05:02
Using 0.32.05 I have English Language & English Subtitles selected by default to keep. Last night I ran Run Lola Run & La Femme Nikita in batch mode, selecting the German & French track & unselecting the English dubbed track on both. However the final output had the English track on both. These were Movie Only to BD5 output. I haven't tried them 1 at a time yet. Wonder if this is a batch mode problem.

jdobbs
4th March 2010, 05:31
Using 0.32.05 I have English Language & English Subtitles selected by default to keep. Last night I ran Run Lola Run & La Femme Nikita in batch mode, selecting the German & French track & unselecting the English dubbed track on both. However the final output had the English track on both. These were Movie Only to BD5 output. I haven't tried them 1 at a time yet. Wonder if this is a batch mode problem. Hmmm... could be. The way I'm trying to keep the audio selections in batch is a little messy. I'll take a relook.

RichardB
4th March 2010, 07:43
I'm a newbie to this stuff as well as this forum. So please try to be understanding if I am missing some things that seem elementary to you guys.

The video part of my backup of Batman, The Dark Knight is failing to play on both my PC and my PS3. (Interestingly, if I go to the working files and open the stream, the movie plays on VLC with no problems).

When inserted in the computer the, Power DVD 9 comes up, and the disc copy seems to start fine. But as soon as the WB Home Video logo, and Age Warning logo is over, the image becomes differant shades of gray and magnified and stretched so that only the far left half or so of the screen is shown on the monitor. Throughout the movie the entire image is differant shades of pale gray, with, sometimes some tints of light blue. This pale gray picture and partial image renders the movie unwatchable.

Frustratingly, audio remaions fine and all the special features as well as the disc menu and navigation controls seem to work, with the image being clear and the colors correct when I trigger the appropriate special feature. But, the playback of the actual movie stays pale gray and distorted.

When I try to play the same copy in the PS3 the audio comes through, but after all the pre-movie screens are over, instewad of pale gray, the screen goes completely dark. Similar to the computer playback, I get full audio.. but instead of a grayed out streched partial image I get on the computer, I get absolutely no video image (the screen remains dark). Just like the computer, on the PS 3 I can again pull up the navigation bar and jump around to differant scenes as well as the special features, but this time (unlike the computer) when I go to the "special features" I get the audio and a dark screen.

Incidently, when I went to the computer after the BD-R process was complete there was only a Windows message over the Power DVD 9 welcome screen saying something to the nature that "The DVD was stopped because the graphics card was not adequate". Also, if I go into the "working files" directory and pull up the movie stream, then everything plays fine in VLC!?!

I have tried reinstalling and so far have burned two disks.. only to get the same results.

My computer is a Gateway SX-2840 with an Intel Core i3 CPU (530@2.93 GHZ 4 MB L3 cache) and has 6GB of DDR3 Ram. The computer is new, and completely unmodified except for a Pioneer BDR-205 which I swapped into the old DVD tray.

I still need to learn about how to save these back-ups to hard disk array so I can set up my entertainment system properly and retrieve my media from a server, and I'm also interested in exploring other aspects of this program, like precisely which of the audio options need to be checked in order to preserve the true HD audio of the discs, but all I care about right now is getting the BD-25 to work. That, to me, would be quite an accomplishment.

Any help in non tech wording would be greatly appreciated by this novice.

ViolentA79
4th March 2010, 13:19
Sorry I'm late with this jdobbs, but that was an AnyDVD rip. It did something i never saw before... asked me where i wante to save the files or something so i picked the same folder the rip was in.... i have my suspicions that it wiped the folder, and my rip, and thus failed. I am using different folders this time to see if i get a different result. Also, i did a DVDFab rip and my computer crashed every time i tried to convert that rip.

ftb32
4th March 2010, 18:50
jdobbs, thanks, worked like a charm, but a have a problem with some extras in Fast and Furius, the video is black a here a red the subtitles but no video, Thanks mi amigo..

[14:24:29] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: FAST_AND_FURIOUS
- Input BD size: 45,33 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:16:36.180]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:24:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:24:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00238]
- [14:24:34] Reencoding: VID_00238 (1 of 36)
- [14:24:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 191 frames
- [14:24:34] Reencoding: VID_00238, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:24:48] Video Encode complete
- [14:24:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:24:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:24:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00236]
- [14:24:49] Reencoding: VID_00236 (2 of 36)
- [14:24:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 191 frames
- [14:24:49] Reencoding: VID_00236, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:24:57] Video Encode complete
- [14:24:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:24:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:24:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00237]
- [14:24:58] Reencoding: VID_00237 (3 of 36)
- [14:24:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 191 frames
- [14:24:58] Reencoding: VID_00237, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:25:06] Video Encode complete
- [14:25:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:25:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:25:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [14:25:09] Reencoding: VID_00078 (4 of 36)
- [14:25:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.128 frames
- [14:25:09] Reencoding: VID_00078, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:26:07] Video Encode complete
- [14:26:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:26:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:26:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
- [14:26:11] Reencoding: VID_00061 (5 of 36)
- [14:26:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.296 frames
- [14:26:11] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:27:18] Video Encode complete
- [14:27:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:27:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:27:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [14:27:22] Reencoding: VID_00050 (6 of 36)
- [14:27:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.465 frames
- [14:27:22] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:28:37] Video Encode complete
- [14:28:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:28:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:28:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [14:28:44] Reencoding: VID_00062 (7 of 36)
- [14:28:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.560 frames
- [14:28:44] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:30:06] Video Encode complete
- [14:30:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:30:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:30:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00064]
- [14:30:13] Reencoding: VID_00064 (8 of 36)
- [14:30:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.978 frames
- [14:30:13] Reencoding: VID_00064, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:31:52] Video Encode complete
- [14:31:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:31:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:31:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00212]
- [14:32:01] Reencoding: VID_00212 (9 of 36)
- [14:32:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 7.530 frames
- [14:32:01] Reencoding: VID_00212, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:33:48] Video Encode complete
- [14:33:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:33:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:33:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00214]
- [14:33:55] Reencoding: VID_00214 (10 of 36)
- [14:33:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.064 frames
- [14:33:55] Reencoding: VID_00214, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:36:11] Video Encode complete
- [14:36:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:36:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:36:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00225]
- [14:36:21] Reencoding: VID_00225 (11 of 36)
- [14:36:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 2.532 frames
- [14:36:21] Reencoding: VID_00225, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:37:50] Video Encode complete
- [14:37:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:37:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:37:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00202]
- [14:37:57] Reencoding: VID_00202 (12 of 36)
- [14:37:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.616 frames
- [14:37:57] Reencoding: VID_00202, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:40:11] Video Encode complete
- [14:40:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:40:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:40:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00215]
- [14:40:25] Reencoding: VID_00215 (13 of 36)
- [14:40:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.144 frames
- [14:40:25] Reencoding: VID_00215, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:44:00] Video Encode complete
- [14:44:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:44:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:44:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00228]
- [14:44:16] Reencoding: VID_00228 (14 of 36)
- [14:44:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 3.924 frames
- [14:44:16] Reencoding: VID_00228, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:46:29] Video Encode complete
- [14:46:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:46:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:46:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00216]
- [14:46:40] Reencoding: VID_00216 (15 of 36)
- [14:46:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.192 frames
- [14:46:40] Reencoding: VID_00216, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:50:08] Video Encode complete
- [14:50:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:50:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:50:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00221]
- [14:50:26] Reencoding: VID_00221 (16 of 36)
- [14:50:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.342 frames
- [14:50:26] Reencoding: VID_00221, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:52:54] Video Encode complete
- [14:52:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:52:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:52:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00217]
- [14:53:12] Reencoding: VID_00217 (17 of 36)
- [14:53:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 5.340 frames
- [14:53:12] Reencoding: VID_00217, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:56:15] Video Encode complete
- [14:56:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:56:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:56:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00224]
- [14:56:31] Reencoding: VID_00224 (18 of 36)
- [14:56:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.634 frames
- [14:56:31] Reencoding: VID_00224, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:59:09] Video Encode complete
- [14:59:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:59:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:59:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00223]
- [14:59:25] Reencoding: VID_00223 (19 of 36)
- [14:59:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.681 frames
- [14:59:25] Reencoding: VID_00223, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:02:03] Video Encode complete
- [15:02:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:02:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:02:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00220]
- [15:02:22] Reencoding: VID_00220 (20 of 36)
- [15:02:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.763 frames
- [15:02:22] Reencoding: VID_00220, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:05:04] Video Encode complete
- [15:05:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:05:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:05:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00226]
- [15:05:21] Reencoding: VID_00226 (21 of 36)
- [15:05:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.855 frames
- [15:05:21] Reencoding: VID_00226, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:08:06] Video Encode complete
- [15:08:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:08:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:08:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00211]
- [15:08:29] Reencoding: VID_00211 (22 of 36)
- [15:08:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 5.250 frames
- [15:08:29] Reencoding: VID_00211, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:11:28] Video Encode complete
- [15:11:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:11:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:11:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00219]
- [15:11:51] Reencoding: VID_00219 (23 of 36)
- [15:11:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 6.106 frames
- [15:11:52] Reencoding: VID_00219, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:15:17] Video Encode complete
- [15:15:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:15:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:15:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00207]
- [15:15:43] Reencoding: VID_00207 (24 of 36)
- [15:15:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 6.900 frames
- [15:15:44] Reencoding: VID_00207, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:19:39] Video Encode complete
- [15:19:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:19:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:19:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [15:20:07] Reencoding: VID_00011 (25 of 36)
- [15:20:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 9.000 frames
- [15:20:08] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:25:09] Video Encode complete
- [15:25:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:25:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:25:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [15:25:39] Reencoding: VID_00205 (26 of 36)
- [15:25:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 8.970 frames
- [15:25:39] Reencoding: VID_00205, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:30:40] Video Encode complete
- [15:30:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:30:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:30:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00204]
- [15:31:28] Reencoding: VID_00204 (27 of 36)
- [15:31:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 12.450 frames
- [15:31:28] Reencoding: VID_00204, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:38:29] Video Encode complete
- [15:38:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:38:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:38:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00227]
- [15:39:20] Reencoding: VID_00227 (28 of 36)
- [15:39:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 13.209 frames
- [15:39:20] Reencoding: VID_00227, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:46:48] Video Encode complete
- [15:46:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:46:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:46:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00222]
- [15:47:45] Reencoding: VID_00222 (29 of 36)
- [15:47:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 13.948 frames
- [15:47:46] Reencoding: VID_00222, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:55:37] Video Encode complete
- [15:55:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:55:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:55:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00218]
- [15:56:43] Reencoding: VID_00218 (30 of 36)
- [15:56:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 14.780 frames
- [15:56:44] Reencoding: VID_00218, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:05:05] Video Encode complete
- [16:05:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:05:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:05:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00206]
- [16:06:15] Reencoding: VID_00206 (31 of 36)
- [16:06:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 17.700 frames
- [16:06:16] Reencoding: VID_00206, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:16:13] Video Encode complete
- [16:16:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:16:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:16:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00208]
- [16:17:22] Reencoding: VID_00208 (32 of 36)
- [16:17:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 17.610 frames
- [16:17:23] Reencoding: VID_00208, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:27:18] Video Encode complete
- [16:27:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:27:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:27:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00209]
- [16:28:39] Reencoding: VID_00209 (33 of 36)
- [16:28:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 19.830 frames
- [16:28:40] Reencoding: VID_00209, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:39:51] Video Encode complete
- [16:39:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:39:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:39:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00210]
- [16:41:24] Reencoding: VID_00210 (34 of 36)
- [16:41:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 20.460 frames
- [16:41:24] Reencoding: VID_00210, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:52:54] Video Encode complete
- [16:52:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:52:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:52:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00203]
- [16:53:57] Reencoding: VID_00203 (35 of 36)
- [16:53:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 29.328 frames
- [16:53:57] Reencoding: VID_00203, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:30:24] Video Encode complete
- [17:30:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:30:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:32:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [17:43:33] Reencoding: VID_00010 (36 of 36)
- [17:43:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 153.744 frames
- [17:43:33] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 18,76 34,38 24,17 21,37 21,07 [21,04]
- [18:06:15] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- [23:21:45] Video Encode complete
- [23:21:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:21:45] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:32:43]PHASE ONE complete
[23:32:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:32:43] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:33:58] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23:33:58]JOB: FAST_AND_FURIOUS finished.

Capsbackup
4th March 2010, 18:54
jdobbs;
I have tested BD-RBV03205 on a full backup to BD-25 of The Matrix, Region A, with some interesting results. It has Dolby Digital 5.1 and Dolby TrueHD and PiP/DDPlus secondary audio, many subtitle tracks and 4 audio commentary tracks.
Test 1 was to keep only the Dolby Digital 5.1 main audio, all four commentary tracks and all subtitle tracks, and the PiP/DDPlus secondary audio. Removed only the non-english audio tracks.
Play back on TMT3 from folders and image has the mixed/garbled audio, as if it is trying to play both main and secondary audio at the same time. The original rip does not do this.
( Not a big deal to me, just reporting the find ) All subtitles work properly, including the secondary video/audio subtitle track.
PowerDVD 7.3 plays back fine.

Test 2 was to keep only the TrueHD and the secondary DDPlus audio, and only the two english subtitle tracks, the main and the secondary PiP video/audio subtitles, removing all non-english audio and the four audio commentary tracks as well as the many non-english subtitle tracks. ( about 700+MB of subtitle tracks and 748MB; four x 187MB ea. audio tracks )
Tested again with same software players and this time TMT3 plays audio perfectly for main audio track but when playing the secondary track, no sound is heard. Also, no secondary subtitle track displays.
PowerDVD, when played from image, works fine though for the main audio and the secondary video/audio! However, there are no secondary subtitles displayed regardless if I turn them on/off manually.

I know software players are buggy, and I do no more than test on them before burning to disc. But what I am wondering is by removing several subtitle tracks after the kept english main track but before the secondary video/audio subtitle track, from its original order, it appears BD-RB did not re-adjust the subtitle order or re-associate the secondary video/audio subtitle track to its new position when I select to play the In-Movie experience from the menu!
When all subtitles were kept, it worked properly.

k-c-ksum
4th March 2010, 20:23
jdobbs;
I have tested BD-RBV03205 on a full backup to BD-25 of The Matrix, Region A, with some interesting results. It has Dolby Digital 5.1 and Dolby TrueHD and PiP/DDPlus secondary audio, many subtitle tracks and 4 audio commentary tracks.
Test 1 was to keep only the Dolby Digital 5.1 main audio, all four commentary tracks and all subtitle tracks, and the PiP/DDPlus secondary audio. Removed only the non-english audio tracks.
Play back on TMT3 from folders and image has the mixed/garbled audio, as if it is trying to play both main and secondary audio at the same time. The original rip does not do this.
( Not a big deal to me, just reporting the find ) All subtitles work properly, including the secondary video/audio subtitle track.
PowerDVD 7.3 plays back fine.

Test 2 was to keep only the TrueHD and the secondary DDPlus audio, and only the two english subtitle tracks, the main and the secondary PiP video/audio subtitles, removing all non-english audio and the four audio commentary tracks as well as the many non-english subtitle tracks. ( about 700+MB of subtitle tracks and 748MB; four x 187MB ea. audio tracks )
Tested again with same software players and this time TMT3 plays audio perfectly for main audio track but when playing the secondary track, no sound is heard. Also, no secondary subtitle track displays.
PowerDVD, when played from image, works fine though for the main audio and the secondary video/audio! However, there are no secondary subtitles displayed regardless if I turn them on/off manually.

I know software players are buggy, and I do no more than test on them before burning to disc. But what I am wondering is by removing several subtitle tracks after the kept english main track but before the secondary video/audio subtitle track, from its original order, it appears BD-RB did not re-adjust the subtitle order or re-associate the secondary video/audio subtitle track to its new position when I select to play the In-Movie experience from the menu!
When all subtitles were kept, it worked properly.

wonder if its worth adding dummy blank sub tracks in place of the removed ones. That will save space and keep everything aligned?

Moviewatcher666
5th March 2010, 00:00
^I honestly have no idea. And I don't have time to rent and watch the Groundhog Day BD, so I can't really investigate anything.

My suggestions.

1) Look at the videos and see what's different about each of them. Resolution, Framerate, audio track, etc.

2) Try creating a custom blu-ray with just the special feature video (recompressed, of course) and see if your player plays it. The problem may be the BD menu structure and not the video.

Hi Revgen,

I did the first part of your suggestion using BDInfo. I will post the results here. Maybe you can help me make some sense of it.

Main Movie - MPEG4 AVC 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/ High Profile 4.1. Movie works great.

Special feature 1 - MPEG 2 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/17737 kbps
Special feature 2 - MPEG 2 480i/29.970 fps/4:3/5796 kbps
Special feature 3 - MPEG 2 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/17749 kbps
These special feature freeze the menu when selected. Subsequently the features don't ever play.

All testing done on original movie rip using AnyDVD (not transcoded).

I don't know if any of this info will help to detemine the problem I have but I appreciate you (or anyone else) looking at it and offering a solution.

And not sure how to do the second part of your suggestion.

Thanks!

Capsbackup
5th March 2010, 00:42
wonder if its worth adding dummy blank sub tracks in place of the removed ones. That will save space and keep everything aligned?

I could do that, and possible get this disc to work, but more important is why BD-RB doesn't make the necessary corrections. If jdobbs is made aware of instances like this, he will likely make the fix so all of us beta testers can benefit. :)

Revgen
5th March 2010, 05:45
Hi Revgen,

I did the first part of your suggestion using BDInfo. I will post the results here. Maybe you can help me make some sense of it.

Main Movie - MPEG4 AVC 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/ High Profile 4.1. Movie works great.

Special feature 1 - MPEG 2 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/17737 kbps
Special feature 2 - MPEG 2 480i/29.970 fps/4:3/5796 kbps
Special feature 3 - MPEG 2 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/17749 kbps
These special feature freeze the menu when selected. Subsequently the features don't ever play.

All testing done on original movie rip using AnyDVD (not transcoded).

I don't know if any of this info will help to detemine the problem I have but I appreciate you (or anyone else) looking at it and offering a solution.

And not sure how to do the second part of your suggestion.

Thanks!

If the special features are freezing and the main movie is not, then it may a problem with the MPEG-2. Pehaps you could re-encode them to X264?

Moviewatcher666
5th March 2010, 14:36
If the special features are freezing and the main movie is not, then it may a problem with the MPEG-2. Pehaps you could re-encode them to X264?

Thanks for the reply Revgen.

I am going to open a new thread for my issue. Can you respond to my questions there?

Thanks!

Bystander
6th March 2010, 03:37
Receiving Error when ripping Movie Only on Sin City (BD - Region 1).

BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1605[21:24:49] ExtractedAudioSubs() 00053 1605

I only flagged the DTS HD XLL audio track.

Here is the BD-Rebuilder "Program Window Log":
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[21:04:03] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: SIN_CITY_D1
- Input BD size: 26.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:03.685]
- Target BD size: 58.59 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:04:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:04:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00614]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00614]
- [21:24:49] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 20 min 44 sec
[21:36:10] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Any thoughts?

Capsbackup
6th March 2010, 04:24
Receiving Error when ripping Movie Only on Sin City (BD - Region 1).

BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1605[21:24:49] ExtractedAudioSubs() 00053 1605

I only flagged the DTS HD XLL audio track.

Here is the BD-Rebuilder "Program Window Log":
-----------------------
[21:04:03] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: SIN_CITY_D1
- Input BD size: 26.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:03.685]
- Target BD size: 58.59 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:04:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:04:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00614]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00614]
- [21:24:49] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 20 min 44 sec
[21:36:10] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Any thoughts?

Why are you trying for 58.59GB Target Size?
It looks like this movie is only slightly over a BD-25, so unless you plan to burn to BD-R DL, why not change to a target size of BD-25, remove any unnecessary audio tracks and try again.:confused:

Bystander
6th March 2010, 05:04
Why are you trying for 58.59GB Target Size?
It looks like this movie is only slightly over a BD-25, so unless you plan to burn to BD-R DL, why not change to a target size of BD-25, remove any unnecessary audio tracks and try again.:confused:

I choose 60GB to ensure there is no compressed video. I'm using BD-Rebuilder instead of ClownBD to rip movies to a server. I'm not burning to BD-R or BD-R DL.

Bystander
6th March 2010, 05:34
Is there going to be an option to use ImageBurn to ISO? Currently I only see ImageBurn to Disc.

Capsbackup
6th March 2010, 16:16
Is there going to be an option to use ImageBurn to ISO? Currently I only see ImageBurn to Disc.

This is not really a BD-RB issue. If you do not want to reduce the size of the movie, just rip to image with AnyDVDHD. Or, as an alternative, rip to folders with AnyDVDHD then just use IMGBurn to create an image of those folders. Either way, it will be original quality and take less time. :cool:

Bystander
6th March 2010, 16:55
This is not really a BD-RB issue. If you do not want to reduce the size of the movie, just rip to image with AnyDVDHD. Or, as an alternative, rip to folders with AnyDVDHD then just use IMGBurn to create an image of those folders. Either way, it will be original quality and take less time. :cool:

Either I'm way ahead of the curve or people drank some bad Kool-Aid.

I want the Movie Only with 1 Audio Track, and English Subtitles. I do not want to compress the video of the movie which is why I put my custom size higher to 60GB to *ensure* there is no compression of the movie video.

Then to make things nice and tidy, I would like to have the movie stored as an ISO. With my technique I am saving 9-20GB of space while preserving the movie and English audio track quality.

So instead of having approximately 40 BD movies (AnyDVD ISO only) on a 2.25TB Raid 5 NAS vs. approx 70-80 BD movies (AnyDVD+BD-Rebuilder ISO).

When played back with a Dune Player, the movie starts within 5 seconds. No waiting, no menus, just watching the movie.

jdobbs
6th March 2010, 17:01
@Bystander

I can add that easy enough. It's virtually the same command line. I'll make the output always go to the working directory.

woodman
6th March 2010, 21:17
Hi, I’ve just done a full backup of District 9 on Bd-25 with settings, quicker encode for extras, custom target size 23900mb. The file size that BD Rebuilder created was 22.9 GB; the film size was 10.5 GB and the extras 12.4 GB, is this normal as the extras on the District 9 rip are about 13 GB, hardly any compression. I’m using BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 with ffdshow 3133

Capsbackup
6th March 2010, 22:14
@woodman;
I had some issues with this disc back quite some time ago, so see if any of this info applies to your situation.
I just realized that when ANYDVD rips all the files off the disc, for this one there is 4.99GB of extra files: example-PS3_GAME=2.95GB, PS3_UPDATE=256MB, SNP=1.78GB
Also, read this page and scroll down and also the following page.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=321

iSeries
7th March 2010, 00:29
Hi,

Ok this is driving me nuts. All extras of 'The Hurt Locker' completed. First pass of main movie completed. About an hour and twenty mins into the second pass I aborted, thinking I'll just restart later (something I frequently do). However now I'm getting 'Failed video encode, aborted'. Absolutely nothing had changed between aborting and restarting so I just cannot figure out whats gone wrong. I've uninstalled and reinstalled ffdshow, haali and avisynth to no avail.

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[09:04:54] BD Rebuilder v0.31.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_HURT_LOCKER
- Input BD size: 36.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:47:39.689]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[09:04:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:04:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00085]
- [09:04:55] Reencoding: VID_00085 (1 of 21)
- [09:04:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 20 frames
- [09:04:55] Reencoding: VID_00085, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:04:58] Video Encode complete
- [09:04:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:04:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:04:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [09:05:01] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 21)
- [09:05:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 400 frames
- [09:05:02] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:06:04] Video Encode complete
- [09:06:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:06:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:06:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [09:06:09] Reencoding: VID_00001 (3 of 21)
- [09:06:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 475 frames
- [09:06:09] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:07:17] Video Encode complete
- [09:07:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:07:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:07:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [09:07:22] Reencoding: VID_00010 (4 of 21)
- [09:07:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 622 frames
- [09:07:22] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:09:06] Video Encode complete
- [09:09:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:09:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:09:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [09:09:11] Reencoding: VID_00011 (5 of 21)
- [09:09:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 623 frames
- [09:09:12] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:10:55] Video Encode complete
- [09:10:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:10:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:10:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [09:11:00] Reencoding: VID_00007 (6 of 21)
- [09:11:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 633 frames
- [09:11:01] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:12:41] Video Encode complete
- [09:12:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:12:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:12:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [09:12:47] Reencoding: VID_00002 (7 of 21)
- [09:12:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 668 frames
- [09:12:47] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:14:32] Video Encode complete
- [09:14:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:14:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:14:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [09:14:38] Reencoding: VID_00017 (8 of 21)
- [09:14:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 709 frames
- [09:14:38] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:16:32] Video Encode complete
- [09:16:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:16:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:16:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [09:16:38] Reencoding: VID_00016 (9 of 21)
- [09:16:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 741 frames
- [09:16:38] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:18:25] Video Encode complete
- [09:18:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:18:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:18:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [09:18:31] Reencoding: VID_00009 (10 of 21)
- [09:18:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 783 frames
- [09:18:31] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:20:40] Video Encode complete
- [09:20:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:20:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:20:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [09:20:46] Reencoding: VID_00018 (11 of 21)
- [09:20:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 866 frames
- [09:20:46] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:22:52] Video Encode complete
- [09:22:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:22:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:22:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [09:22:58] Reencoding: VID_00012 (12 of 21)
- [09:22:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 935 frames
- [09:22:59] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:25:33] Video Encode complete
- [09:25:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:25:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:25:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [09:25:40] Reencoding: VID_00008 (13 of 21)
- [09:25:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 948 frames
- [09:25:40] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:28:12] Video Encode complete
- [09:28:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:28:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:28:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [09:28:19] Reencoding: VID_00019 (14 of 21)
- [09:28:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 960 frames
- [09:28:19] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:30:38] Video Encode complete
- [09:30:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:30:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:30:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [09:30:47] Reencoding: VID_00015 (15 of 21)
- [09:30:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 1,779 frames
- [09:30:47] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:35:29] Video Encode complete
- [09:35:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:35:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:35:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [09:35:40] Reencoding: VID_00013 (16 of 21)
- [09:35:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 1,962 frames
- [09:35:40] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:40:50] Video Encode complete
- [09:40:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:40:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:40:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [09:41:01] Reencoding: VID_00014 (17 of 21)
- [09:41:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 1,989 frames
- [09:41:01] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:46:34] Video Encode complete
- [09:46:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:46:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:46:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [09:46:46] Reencoding: VID_00003 (18 of 21)
- [09:46:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 2,104 frames
- [09:46:46] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:52:14] Video Encode complete
- [09:52:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:52:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:52:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [09:53:12] Reencoding: VID_00004 (19 of 21)
- [09:53:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 19,396 frames
- [09:53:12] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:13:12] Video Encode complete
- [11:13:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:13:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:13:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00084]
- [11:15:23] Reencoding: VID_00084 (20 of 21)
- [11:15:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 18,014 frames
- [11:15:23] Reencoding: VID_00084, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:12:36] Video Encode complete
- [12:12:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:12:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:13:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [12:32:38] Reencoding: VID_00020 (21 of 21)
- [12:32:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 188,064 frames
- Bitrate: 16,572 Kbs
- [12:32:38] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:53:54] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
[18:11:48]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
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[22:54:34] BD Rebuilder v0.31.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_HURT_LOCKER
- Input BD size: 36.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:47:39.689]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:54:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:54:36] Reencoding: VID_00020 (21 of 21)
- [22:54:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 188,064 frames
- Bitrate: 16,572 Kbs
- [22:54:37] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[22:54:45] - Failed video encode, aborted

P.S Starting from scratch works ok - please does anyone have an idea on what I can do so I don't have to start over?

P.P.S I'm using this version as later versions gave me weird crashes with tsmuxer.

DVDIT
7th March 2010, 01:40
I did two backups since updating to V32.05 and I am having issues with both backups, one full movie on BD-25 and the other movie only on BD-9. Whenever I press FF or REW keys, the picture freezes and the only way to unfreeze it (resume playback ) is by powering down the player. I am only having issues with Pioneer BDP-51-FD. I don't have a problem with the PS3.

I have done many backups with 31.05 and 31.06 and in all my of my backups the FF and REW function work fine with all my players. What could be causing this issue ?

BTW, I didn't want to upgrade from 31.06 because I never had any issues at all but when I launch BR-RB the program doesn't launch but keep saying to upgrade to the latest beta version. Since my primary player is the Pioneer 51FD, this is a major bug for me. Is there anyway I could keep using the 31.06 without the need to upgrade to the latest version ?

jdobbs
7th March 2010, 04:09
I did two backups since updating to V32.05 and I am having issues with both backups, one full movie on BD-25 and the other movie only on BD-9. Whenever I press FF or REW keys, the picture freezes and the only way to unfreeze it (resume playback ) is by powering down the player. I am only having issues with Pioneer BDP-51-FD. I don't have a problem with the PS3.

I have done many backups with 31.05 and 31.06 and in all my of my backups the FF and REW function work fine with all my players. What could be causing this issue ?

BTW, I didn't want to upgrade from 31.06 because I never had any issues at all but when I launch BR-RB the program doesn't launch but keep saying to upgrade to the latest beta version. Since my primary player is the Pioneer 51FD, this is a major bug for me. Is there anyway I could keep using the 31.06 without the need to upgrade to the latest version ? You can look at the change log and see what has changed. For a full backup that is essentially nothing beyond the newer version of X264. You can try downgrading the X264 version and see if that has an effect.

Upgrading is the least I should be able to expect since the purpose of these versions and this thread are beta testing... don't you think? It doesn't do anyone any good to keep getting bug reports on old versions. That is exactly why I put timeouts on the versions, and it isn't going to change.

jdobbs
7th March 2010, 04:13
Hi, I’ve just done a full backup of District 9 on Bd-25 with settings, quicker encode for extras, custom target size 23900mb. The file size that BD Rebuilder created was 22.9 GB; the film size was 10.5 GB and the extras 12.4 GB, is this normal as the extras on the District 9 rip are about 13 GB, hardly any compression. I’m using BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 with ffdshow 3133 Quicker encode for extras uses fixed CRF values, so that could happen.

jdobbs
7th March 2010, 04:15
@iSeries

Upgrade to v0.32.05 -- this is a beta test. I can't respond to issues that may have already been fixed.

DVDIT
7th March 2010, 05:09
You can look at the change log and see what has changed. For a full backup that is essentially nothing beyond the newer version of X264. You can try downgrading the X264 version and see if that has an effect.

Upgrading is the least I should be able to expect since the purpose of these versions and this thread are beta testing... don't you think? It doesn't do anyone any good to keep getting bug reports on old versions. That is exactly why I put timeouts on the versions, and it isn't going to change.

I see your reasoning. I will try to downgrade the X264 and see if that helps.

RichardB
7th March 2010, 07:50
Re my post 7125 on the previous page.

Anyone have any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Regards,
Richard

woodman
7th March 2010, 12:49
@woodman;
I had some issues with this disc back quite some time ago, so see if any of this info applies to your situation.

Also, read this page and scroll down and also the following page.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=321

Thanks Capsbackup, just read the thread and i have a similar problem as you, some larger extras than original, i will do another backup with (quicker encode for extras) disabled as Jdobbs suggested. Thanks.

jdobbs
7th March 2010, 15:09
Re my post 7125 on the previous page.

Anyone have any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Regards,
RichardWhat did you use to rip it? It sure sounds a lot like what would happen if encryption wasn't removed...

RichardB
7th March 2010, 17:43
Thanks for your response jdobbs.

Used most recent version of AnyDVD HD (which I paid for!). The rip seems to have been properly decrypted, as the entire disc plays when mounted using Virtual Clone Drive.

Would you like me to re-rip, try your program again, and post the log for you?

jdobbs
7th March 2010, 18:15
Thanks for your response jdobbs.

Used most recent version of AnyDVD HD (which I paid for!). The rip seems to have been properly decrypted, as the entire disc plays when mounted using Virtual Clone Drive.

Would you like me to re-rip, try your program again, and post the log for you? Yes please. But make sure you are using the latest version of BD-RB. The two versions before the current one had issues on PS3. Better yet, wait until I post a new update later today.

madhusker
7th March 2010, 18:21
Is there going to be an option to use ImageBurn to ISO? Currently I only see ImageBurn to Disc.

Thanks for agreeing the output to ISO through imageburn. I think that would be a very well used feature for sure. Rather than burning to BD-25 RW, I use imageburn to put into ISO and then mount with daemon tools, then load with PowerDVD to check if everything is OK. It's a cumbersome process and it would be ohh so nice if BD Rebuilder would just "output" ISO to start with.

Is there a way to preview BD without making ISO? I have powerDVD9 AND powerDVD7.3.

Thanks for such a great program. I haven't had a single issue and it just works. Even titles in the recent posts worked and I have never seen any grey or banding. Good stuff!

Capsbackup
7th March 2010, 18:24
TMT3 can play Blu-Ray movies from files/folders, but I don't think it is any better than what you are using!

jdobbs
7th March 2010, 18:43
I have updated the first post of this thread with a new version of BD-RB (v0.32.07). Changes for this release:- Added a new option to the "Output Options" menu.
You can now select to output to an ISO file rather
than burning directly to disc. Both options require
ImgBurn to be installed on your computer in order to
be enabled.
- Added a new hidden option. "REMOVE_OUTPUT=1" added
to the "[Options]" area of the config/ini file will
instruct BD-RB to remove the output folder after a
successful burn or write to ISO. It has no affect if
one of the ImgBurn options aren't selected. If used in
conjunction with "REMOVE_WORKFILES=1", virtually all
temporary files are removed after successful encoding,
rebuilding, and writing occurs. This can be handy for
systems with limited disc space during BATCH operations
See HIDDENOPTS.TXT for details and use with caution.
- Corrected an error in which changes in audio or
subtitle selections were not being kept in batch
mode.
- Changed the default setting for intermediate files. The
MKV format was not compatible with AUD & NAL-HRD output,
and was the cause of issues with Panasonic and PS3
players when the NAL-HRD patch was used. The hidden
MKV_INTERMEDIATE option still exists but its default has
been changed to "0" -- and NAL-HRD is now disabled when
it is manually set to "1". Many thanks to shon3i and
Discoboy for helping put this issue to bed.
- Changed the settings so that NAL-HRD is once again used
in encodes. This should make the output more compliant
with BD specs.
- Added Media Player Classic to the package. You can now
review video by right clicking on it from the streams
list. It helps you know what video is related to which
streams. This feature is added in preparation for
future stream editing options (like blanking streams or
converting to "slideshow").
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1471 with nal-hrd patch).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Capsbackup
7th March 2010, 19:14
@jdobbs;
- Corrected an error in which changes in audio or
subtitle selections were not being kept in batch
mode.
My recent experience that I reported for the subtitles not displaying properly when removing some from the list from the original order was Not when using batch mode!
Does this fix for BD-RBV03207 also correct the above mentioned?

jdobbs
7th March 2010, 19:53
@jdobbs;

My recent experience that I reported for the subtitles not displaying properly when removing some from the list from the original order was Not when using batch mode!
Does this fix for BD-RBV03207 also correct the above mentioned? That was to fix a different reported bug that was specifically related to batch.

Is your issue something that just started recently, or is it something that may have been there but was only recently noticed? The issue is only with secondary subtitle tracks, right?

Capsbackup
7th March 2010, 20:20
That was to fix a different reported bug that was specifically related to batch.

Is your issue something that just started recently, or is it something that may have been there but was only recently noticed? The issue is only with secondary subtitle tracks, right?

Yes it is only with the secondary subtitle tracks.
This was the first disc, The Matrix, that had PiP with DDPlus audio, that I have tried to do a full backup to BD-25 and retain the PiP track in quite some time.
Also, The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions appear to all have the same structure, with many non-english subtitles. There is approx. 650MB of just non-english subtitles. So removing those could save space. However, doing so prevents the PiP subtitle track from working. :( If all are kept, the secondary subtitles work just like the original.

michael1971
7th March 2010, 20:37
Hello,
I Have a problem with the preview mode, MPC crash...

D:\BLURAYRIP\BDREBUILDER\MPC_VIEW.AVS::Avisynth audio #1
ACM Wrapper::Output

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
Audio: PCM 48000Hz 6ch 4608Kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 12
cbFormat: 18

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0001
nChannels: 6
nSamplesPerSec: 48000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 576000
nBlockAlign: 12
wBitsPerSample: 16
cbSize: 0 (extra bytes)

pbFormat:
0000: 01 00 06 00 80 bb 00 00 00 ca 08 00 0c 00 10 00 ....€»...Ê......
0010: 00 00 ..


Media Type 1:
--------------------------
Audio: PCM 44100Hz stereo 1411Kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 4
cbFormat: 18

..



My configuration is :

Win seven pro 32bits
FFDShow
TMT 2
VLC

Help me :thanks:

Discoboy
7th March 2010, 20:42
@jdobbs,

V0.32.07 (beta) movie only 1-pass CRF = OK BD35 SAP playability :thanks:

MILLZY
7th March 2010, 23:06
Thanks for the option to output to iso:thanks:

jdobbs
7th March 2010, 23:14
Yes it is only with the secondary subtitle tracks.
This was the first disc, The Matrix, that had PiP with DDPlus audio, that I have tried to do a full backup to BD-25 and retain the PiP track in quite some time.
Also, The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions appear to all have the same structure, with many non-english subtitles. There is approx. 650MB of just non-english subtitles. So removing those could save space. However, doing so prevents the PiP subtitle track from working. :( If all are kept, the secondary subtitles work just like the original. The subs for the PiP is a little weird. If I remember correctly they are referenced indirectly -- which can make it a little confusing. I'll go back and check how I'm updating it.

jdobbs
7th March 2010, 23:17
Hello,
I Have a problem with the preview mode, MPC crash...

D:\BLURAYRIP\BDREBUILDER\MPC_VIEW.AVS::Avisynth audio #1
ACM Wrapper::Output

Media Type 0:
--------------------------
Audio: PCM 48000Hz 6ch 4608Kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 12
cbFormat: 18

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0001
nChannels: 6
nSamplesPerSec: 48000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 576000
nBlockAlign: 12
wBitsPerSample: 16
cbSize: 0 (extra bytes)

pbFormat:
0000: 01 00 06 00 80 bb 00 00 00 ca 08 00 0c 00 10 00 ....€»...Ê......
0010: 00 00 ..


Media Type 1:
--------------------------
Audio: PCM 44100Hz stereo 1411Kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 4
cbFormat: 18

..



My configuration is :

Win seven pro 32bits
FFDShow
TMT 2
VLC

Help me :thanks: I may have to do some tweaking of the FFDSHOW audio settings... I'm making the assumption that they are set up properly for all BD audio. But I see that your source had what appears to be a 44100Khz audio stream in it. How is that possible from a legal/compliant source? The only legal BD sample frequencies are 48, 96, and 192Khz.

You may want to open up the audio decoder configuration under FFDSHOW and make sure you have something selected for AC3, True HD, DTS, and LPCM.

RichardB
8th March 2010, 01:01
(Shall I re-rip and try again?) Yes please. But make sure you are using the latest version of BD-RB. The two versions before the current one had issues on PS3. Better yet, wait until I post a new update later today.

Okay, downloaded and installed ver.32.07. Opened my flimsy plastic case (yep, I bought the "bat pod" version of BatmanDK as I am a sucker for toys!) and the original is now being ripped using AnyDVD HD 6.6.2.3. So, I'll let the HD rip cook overnight in your program and report back tomorrow.

In the interim, I have two quick Qs for you.

1. I put your program in, and I run it from, a different directory from the normal C:\Program Files (I put it under my name in the My Documents folder). Could this be affecting my results? Furthermore, when I remove your program to replace it with new versions you release, I just use the "Delete" command, as "Remove Program" does not appear to be an option. Is this okay.. or should I do something else?

2. I want to preserve the highest fidelity sound possible on the copy. If I am recording to BR25s, which options do I chose under Audio Encoding?

Thanks,
Richard

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 01:56
Okay, downloaded and installed ver.32.07. Opened my flimsy plastic case (yep, I bought the "bat pod" version of BatmanDK as I am a sucker for toys!) and the original is now being ripped using AnyDVD HD 6.6.2.3. So, I'll let the HD rip cook overnight in your program and report back tomorrow.

In the interim, I have two quick Qs for you.

1. I put your program in, and I run it from, a different directory from the normal C:\Program Files (I put it under my name in the My Documents folder). Could this be affecting my results? Furthermore, when I remove your program to replace it with new versions you release, I just use the "Delete" command, as "Remove Program" does not appear to be an option. Is this okay.. or should I do something else?

2. I want to preserve the highest fidelity sound possible on the copy. If I am recording to BR25s, which options do I chose under Audio Encoding?

Thanks,
Richard1. You're doing it the right way. When I get out of beta I'll create an install package -- but because of virtualization it's better to keep it out of the "c:\program files" directory for now.

2. Just select "Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding" in the SETUP dialog. For BD-25 it has the highest priority and will override the other settings.

tonimacarronis
8th March 2010, 02:38
Made well but i think i have a problem with codecs: i have installed eac3to decodec pack, surcode and sonic cineplayer decoder. I´ve installed so arcsoft media theatre, quick media player with itunes. I´ve the correct versions avisynth, ffdshow and haali.

My S.O. is windows 7 ultimate and procesor intel quad core.

With Vista and the same codecs work perfectly.

Thanks!!

LAustinTX
8th March 2010, 03:36
I've seen this reported before, and the only way around it is to encode the entire disc, but I'm perplexed as to why this error occurs. Log below:

[20:11:34] BD Rebuilder v0.32.07 (beta)
- Source: SIN_CITY_D1
- Input BD size: 26.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:03.685]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:11:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:11:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00614]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00614]
- [20:30:55] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 19 min 43 sec
[20:30:58] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I've tried every permutation of audio tracks, just one english, all english, all audio...all with the same results: "error in attempt to extract audio/subs". Jdobbs, any thoughts here? Could this be corrected by changing settings (other than recoding the entire disc)? Or is this a bug?

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 06:10
Made well but i think i have a problem with codecs: i have installed eac3to decodec pack, surcode and sonic cineplayer decoder. I´ve installed so arcsoft media theatre, quick media player with itunes. I´ve the correct versions avisynth, ffdshow and haali.

My S.O. is windows 7 ultimate and procesor intel quad core.

With Vista and the same codecs work perfectly.

Thanks!!What can I say. You've installed so much that it's impossible to predict what is actually being used...

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 06:22
I've seen this reported before, and the only way around it is to encode the entire disc, but I'm perplexed as to why this error occurs. Log below:

[20:11:34] BD Rebuilder v0.32.07 (beta)
- Source: SIN_CITY_D1
- Input BD size: 26.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:03.685]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:11:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:11:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00614]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00614]
- [20:30:55] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 19 min 43 sec
[20:30:58] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I've tried every permutation of audio tracks, just one english, all english, all audio...all with the same results: "error in attempt to extract audio/subs". Jdobbs, any thoughts here? Could this be corrected by changing settings (other than recoding the entire disc)? Or is this a bug? I think that possibly the combination of a filename and the working path is too long??? This error (53: "Can't find specified file") is happening in a small loop in a renaming process. Look in your WORKFILES folder and see if there is an incredibly long filename in there somewhere. I would expect that it is a name that resulted from the combining of numerous parts for movie-only.

WesX
8th March 2010, 06:38
Having problems with Fast And The Furious and Tokyo Drift:

-----------------------
[18:55:15] BD Rebuilder v0.31.07 (beta)
- Source: TFATF
- Input BD size: 38.43 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:42:29.878]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:55:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:55:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
- [18:55:16] Reencoding: VID_00103 (1 of 35)
- [18:55:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00097]
- [18:55:20] Reencoding: VID_00097 (2 of 35)
- [18:55:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [18:55:25] Reencoding: VID_00095 (3 of 35)
- [18:55:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [18:55:30] Reencoding: VID_00092 (4 of 35)
- [18:55:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00099]
- [18:55:35] Reencoding: VID_00099 (5 of 35)
- [18:55:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
- [18:55:40] Reencoding: VID_00093 (6 of 35)
- [18:55:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [18:55:47] Reencoding: VID_00100 (7 of 35)
- [18:55:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00098]
- [18:55:53] Reencoding: VID_00098 (8 of 35)
- [18:56:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00118]
- [18:56:02] Reencoding: VID_00118 (9 of 35)
- [18:56:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00079]
- [18:56:11] Reencoding: VID_00079 (10 of 35)
- [18:56:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [18:56:21] Reencoding: VID_00101 (11 of 35)
- [18:56:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [18:56:34] Reencoding: VID_00094 (12 of 35)
- [18:56:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [18:56:50] Reencoding: VID_00078 (13 of 35)
- [18:57:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
- [18:57:18] Reencoding: VID_00061 (14 of 35)
- [18:57:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
- [18:57:50] Reencoding: VID_00130 (15 of 35)
- [18:58:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [18:58:15] Reencoding: VID_00050 (16 of 35)
- [18:58:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00129]
- [18:58:51] Reencoding: VID_00129 (17 of 35)
- [18:59:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
- [18:59:14] Reencoding: VID_00096 (18 of 35)
- [18:59:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [18:59:38] Reencoding: VID_00062 (19 of 35)
- [19:00:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00084]
- [19:00:19] Reencoding: VID_00084 (20 of 35)
- [19:00:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00102]
- [19:00:46] Reencoding: VID_00102 (21 of 35)
- [19:01:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00089]
- [19:01:14] Reencoding: VID_00089 (22 of 35)
- [19:01:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
- [19:01:56] Reencoding: VID_00090 (23 of 35)
- [19:02:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00088]
- [19:02:52] Reencoding: VID_00088 (24 of 35)
- [19:03:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00056]
- [19:03:32] Reencoding: VID_00056 (25 of 35)
- [19:05:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00117]
- [19:05:38] Reencoding: VID_00117 (26 of 35)
- [19:06:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00086]
- [19:06:27] Reencoding: VID_00086 (27 of 35)
- [19:07:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00115]
- [19:07:30] Reencoding: VID_00115 (28 of 35)
- [19:08:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00116]
- [19:08:14] Reencoding: VID_00116 (29 of 35)
- [19:08:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00087]
- [19:09:06] Reencoding: VID_00087 (30 of 35)
- [19:09:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00080]
- [19:10:29] Reencoding: VID_00080 (31 of 35)
- [19:17:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00083]
- [19:18:27] Reencoding: VID_00083 (32 of 35)
- [19:21:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00085]
- [19:21:57] Reencoding: VID_00085 (33 of 35)
- [19:24:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [19:26:15] Reencoding: VID_00081 (34 of 35)
- [19:42:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [19:58:40] Reencoding: VID_00010 (35 of 35)
- [19:58:40] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [20:20:37] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_03]
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00010.meta
- Can't open file: C:\A BLU RAY ENCODES\WORKFILES\00010.track_6656.DTS
[07:50:44] - Failed to build structure, aborted

-----------------------
[01:43:34] BD Rebuilder v0.31.07 (beta)
- Source: TFATF_TD
- Input BD size: 40.81 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:28:46.109]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[01:43:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:43:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00307]
- [01:43:35] Reencoding: VID_00307 (1 of 30)
- [01:43:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00298]
- [01:43:40] Reencoding: VID_00298 (2 of 30)
- [01:43:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00294]
- [01:43:49] Reencoding: VID_00294 (3 of 30)
- [01:43:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00302]
- [01:44:01] Reencoding: VID_00302 (4 of 30)
- [01:44:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00299]
- [01:44:14] Reencoding: VID_00299 (5 of 30)
- [01:44:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
- [01:44:27] Reencoding: VID_00078 (6 of 30)
- [01:44:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
- [01:44:55] Reencoding: VID_00061 (7 of 30)
- [01:45:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00297]
- [01:45:26] Reencoding: VID_00297 (8 of 30)
- [01:45:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00301]
- [01:45:47] Reencoding: VID_00301 (9 of 30)
- [01:46:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00295]
- [01:46:07] Reencoding: VID_00295 (10 of 30)
- [01:46:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [01:46:28] Reencoding: VID_00050 (11 of 30)
- [01:47:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00296]
- [01:47:04] Reencoding: VID_00296 (12 of 30)
- [01:47:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00303]
- [01:47:25] Reencoding: VID_00303 (13 of 30)
- [01:47:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00300]
- [01:47:47] Reencoding: VID_00300 (14 of 30)
- [01:48:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00304]
- [01:48:10] Reencoding: VID_00304 (15 of 30)
- [01:48:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [01:48:34] Reencoding: VID_00062 (16 of 30)
- [01:49:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00064]
- [01:49:15] Reencoding: VID_00064 (17 of 30)
- [01:49:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00305]
- [01:50:04] Reencoding: VID_00305 (18 of 30)
- [01:50:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00292]
- [01:50:43] Reencoding: VID_00292 (19 of 30)
- [01:51:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00056]
- [01:51:22] Reencoding: VID_00056 (20 of 30)
- [01:53:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00306]
- [01:53:27] Reencoding: VID_00306 (21 of 30)
- [01:54:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00288]
- [01:54:15] Reencoding: VID_00288 (22 of 30)
- [01:54:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00291]
- [01:55:08] Reencoding: VID_00291 (23 of 30)
- [01:56:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00287]
- [01:56:16] Reencoding: VID_00287 (24 of 30)
- [01:57:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00289]
- [01:57:40] Reencoding: VID_00289 (25 of 30)
- [01:58:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00293]
- [01:59:12] Reencoding: VID_00293 (26 of 30)
- [02:00:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00290]
- [02:01:01] Reencoding: VID_00290 (27 of 30)
- [02:02:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [02:03:37] Reencoding: VID_00011 (28 of 30)
- [02:20:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00308]
- [02:24:07] Reencoding: VID_00308 (29 of 30)
- [09:35:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [09:49:29] Reencoding: VID_00010 (30 of 30)
- [09:49:29] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [09:59:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_03]
- [10:06:08] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_04]
- [10:12:42] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_05]
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00010.meta
- Can't open file: C:\A BLU RAY ENCODES\WORKFILES\00010.track_6656.DTS
[20:04:16] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------

This is the first time I ran across this problem. I have done a bunch of backups from Universal and never had this issue. Any help would be much appreciated!

My computer specs:
Windows Vista 64bit
BD Rebuilder v0.31.07
FFDSHOW rev 2661

setarip_old
8th March 2010, 09:09
@WesX

HI!

Do you have sufficient hard drive space?

chompy
8th March 2010, 09:18
Hi, maybe that a moron question, but, when BD-Rebuilder does the demux process, does it use a built-in demuxer or does it use tsMuxeR?

I ask this because I’ve read many post that state that tsMuxeR has problems demuxing seamless branching movies (overlaps and gaps in the file produced by tsMuxeR on it's own tend to cause out of sync audio), and in the tools folder of BD-Rebuilder I do not see eac3to, which doesn’t have this problems while demuxing.

I don’t have any seamless branching movie right now, but maybe someday I’ll get one, and I’d like to know if a full backup could end with these audio out of sync problems, being safer creating a movie only with eac3to and then compress it with BD-Rebuilder.

Greetings

PS. Thanks jdobbs for this great software that till know, in my first 6 backups, as worked perfectly with 0 errors

ftb32
8th March 2010, 13:45
Thanks jdobbs Fast And The Furious (OK) Bd-25 with settings, full backup, no quicker encode for extras, cfr, ahaha and .iso, and play full perfect in sony s500. Thanks...

ftb32
8th March 2010, 13:46
Thanks jdobbs Fast And The Furious (OK) Bd-25 with settings, full backup, no quicker encode for extras, cfr, ahaha and .iso, and play full perfect in sony . Thanks...BD Rebuilder v0.32.07

colinhunt
8th March 2010, 14:47
First run with 0.32.07, tried to do a movie-only backup of REC2 (Spanish import):

[15:34:11] BD Rebuilder v0.32.07 (beta)
- Source: (BD28)_REC2
- Input BD size: 18,95 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:24:14.125]
- Target BD size: 23,54 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:34:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:34:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]

Extraction proceeded to 100%, then an Error Condition box popped up. Errlog.txt contains the following:

03.08.10 [15:40:29] ExtractAudioSubs() 00075 1605

Update: ran the data through 0.32.05 and the same thing happens.

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 15:36
First run with 0.32.07, tried to do a movie-only backup of REC2 (Spanish import):

[15:34:11] BD Rebuilder v0.32.07 (beta)
- Source: (BD28)_REC2
- Input BD size: 18,95 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:24:14.125]
- Target BD size: 23,54 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:34:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:34:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]

Extraction proceeded to 100%, then an Error Condition box popped up. Errlog.txt contains the following:

03.08.10 [15:40:29] ExtractAudioSubs() 00075 1605

Update: ran the data through 0.32.05 and the same thing happens. That's a path/file access error. Do you have rights to the output area or were you accessing a directory that was in need of removal/change? Is ther plenty of free space? Do you remember what the popup box said? Sometimes the recorded error is a secondary result of a previous error -- especially when it happens in a "called" program.

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 15:39
Having problems with Fast And The Furious and Tokyo Drift:

...

This is the first time I ran across this problem. I have done a bunch of backups from Universal and never had this issue. Any help would be much appreciated!

My computer specs:
Windows Vista 64bit
BD Rebuilder v0.31.07
FFDSHOW rev 2661 Odd. That track is a DTS Express secondary audio track. It shouldn't be possible to select it???? Does it have an "X" next to it in the streams list? Was this a batch encode?

By the way, the required FFDSHOW version is 3133, and it can be downloaded from the first post of this thread. But I don't think that is related to your problem in any way.

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 15:57
Hi, maybe that a moron question, but, when BD-Rebuilder does the demux process, does it use a built-in demuxer or does it use tsMuxeR?

I ask this because I’ve read many post that state that tsMuxeR has problems demuxing seamless branching movies (overlaps and gaps in the file produced by tsMuxeR on it's own tend to cause out of sync audio), and in the tools folder of BD-Rebuilder I do not see eac3to, which doesn’t have this problems while demuxing.

I don’t have any seamless branching movie right now, but maybe someday I’ll get one, and I’d like to know if a full backup could end with these audio out of sync problems, being safer creating a movie only with eac3to and then compress it with BD-Rebuilder.

Greetings

PS. Thanks jdobbs for this great software that till know, in my first 6 backups, as worked perfectly with 0 errors I use TSMUXER -- and having done several hundred discs without any sync issues -- many of which included seamless branching, I'm pretty sure the reported problem isn't in TSMUXER itself but in "how you use" TSMUXER. That doesn't mean TSMUXER is perfect (as an attempt to demux DTS Express will prove), but I don't think there is an issue in this area.

LAustinTX
8th March 2010, 17:21
I think that possibly the combination of a filename and the working path is too long??? This error (53: "Can't find specified file") is happening in a small loop in a renaming process. Look in your WORKFILES folder and see if there is an incredibly long filename in there somewhere. I would expect that it is a name that resulted from the combining of numerous parts for movie-only.

I reencode the disc again, to capture the working file names. There are only 3 at this point in the encode process:

00614.m2ts
00614.track_4113.264
Aud_00614.meta

The exact text of the popup error is:

BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1605 [10:14:07] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605

None of those file names appear to be extremely lengthy, so I'm still scratching my head over this one. Any other insight here is very welcome.

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 17:37
I reencode the disc again, to capture the working file names. There are only 3 at this point in the encode process:

00614.m2ts
00614.track_4113.264
Aud_00614.meta

The exact text of the popup error is:

BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1605 [10:14:07] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605

None of those file names appear to be extremely lengthy, so I'm still scratching my head over this one. Any other insight here is very welcome.How about when you include the path... is it long then?

Capsbackup
8th March 2010, 17:41
@LAustinTX;
What are you using to rip the original discs with?
Are you working from the original ripped disc?

WesX
8th March 2010, 18:42
@WesX

HI!

Do you have sufficient hard drive space?

I have over 300GB's free. I hope that's enough. Lol.

Odd. That track is a DTS Express secondary audio track. It shouldn't be possible to select it???? Does it have an "X" next to it in the streams list? Was this a batch encode?

By the way, the required FFDSHOW version is 3133, and it can be downloaded from the first post of this thread. But I don't think that is related to your problem in any way.

This was not a batch encode. I actually tried to encode it twice, full movie back-up, and both times had same result. It does have a red "X" next to it. http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/774/bdrebuild.jpg

Any ideas what could be causing this?

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 18:46
I have over 300GB's free. I hope that's enough. Lol.

[Image Removed]

This was not a batch encode. I actually tried to encode it twice, full movie back-up, and both times had same result. It does have a red "X" next to it.

Any ideas what could be causing this? Then it shouldn't be a part of the extraction or the remux. Can you post the contents of the mux file for that M2TS? It should be called "MUX_00010.meta"

LAustinTX
8th March 2010, 19:42
How about when you include the path... is it long then?

No, (at least I don't think so) The longest path/file name is J:\Workfiles\00614.track_4113.264

I would think though that since the full disc encode doesn't have this problem, but shares the same path, that it wouldn't be related to a lengthy path/filename. But I'm guessing, as I'm a novice here.

LAustinTX
8th March 2010, 19:48
@LAustinTX;
What are you using to rip the original discs with?
Are you working from the original ripped disc?

I used an image file created by AnyDVD and used Daemon tools to mount it, but then reripped it (again, using AnyDVD) to a folder/files format, and the same result occured. There were no errors in the rip, as i can encode the entire disc to a BD-25 with no issues whatsoever. The issue is only when I try to do a "movie only" encode. The resulting full disc encode is fine, but I was trying to reduce additional compression by getting rid of the extraneous material (approx: 12GB) by going the "movie only" route.

colinhunt
8th March 2010, 19:57
That's a path/file access error. Do you have rights to the output area or were you accessing a directory that was in need of removal/change? Is ther plenty of free space?
There was 124 GB of free space on the destination partition at that moment.

I wonder if this has anything to do with my previous run with BD-RB 0.32.05, doing a full backup of another disc; it crashed into a "not responding" state (and had to be forcibly terminated) during multiplexing phase because destination partition ran out of free space. I deleted 16GB in trashcan and moved 108GB out of the partition, checked that there was 124 GB of free space, then started 0.32.07 and gave it the movie-only job of REC2. Which ended in the error message I posted.

I rebooted the PC a moment ago, and tried movie-only of REC2 with 0.32.07 again. No error message this time; it's rebuilding BD file structure right now.

Do you remember what the popup box said?
Same error as in Errlog.txt.

chompy
8th March 2010, 19:58
I use TSMUXER -- and having done several hundred discs without any sync issues -- many of which included seamless branching, I'm pretty sure the reported problem isn't in TSMUXER itself but in "how you use" TSMUXER. That doesn't mean TSMUXER is perfect (as an attempt to demux DTS Express will prove), but I don't think there is an issue in this area.

Then it seems there's nothing to worry about :thanks:

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 20:41
No, (at least I don't think so) The longest path/file name is J:\Workfiles\00614.track_4113.264

I would think though that since the full disc encode doesn't have this problem, but shares the same path, that it wouldn't be related to a lengthy path/filename. But I'm guessing, as I'm a novice here. The movie-only version might create a filename that is a concatenation of several sources.

LAustinTX
8th March 2010, 21:06
The movie-only version might create a filename that is a concatenation of several sources.

Would I be able to view this filename in some sort of temp area of the program, or is this something that is not seen by the user? If I can get the info somewhere, let me know, and I'll validate your assumption. Thanks!

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 21:16
Would I be able to view this filename in some sort of temp area of the program, or is this something that is not seen by the user? If I can get the info somewhere, let me know, and I'll validate your assumption. Thanks!Not normally, because it gets renamed in that exact same loop where the error is occuring -- but if it crashed there, I would think you'd see it. The file might have a name like:

"00010+00050+00115+00001+00220..." followed by the ".DTS", ".AC3", or ".SUP" suffixes.

It happens on multipart movies (such as seamless branched) when they are being converted to a single M2TS stream for movie-only. An issue would only be encountered if there was an exceptionally large number of parts that makes the title (when combined with the path) longer than 254 characters. I've personally never encountered one that long, but I have seen a report of a European title that had hit the limit.

Of course that may not even be your problem -- I'm just brainstorming to figure out what may be possible.

Capsbackup
8th March 2010, 23:02
Would I be able to view this filename in some sort of temp area of the program, or is this something that is not seen by the user? If I can get the info somewhere, let me know, and I'll validate your assumption. Thanks!

If you use BDInfo, it will tell you if the main movie is made up of more than one .m2ts file.
http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/tools/bdinfo

jdobbs
8th March 2010, 23:05
If you use BDInfo, it will tell you if the main movie is made up of more than one .m2ts file.
http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/tools/bdinfo

You will also see it in the stream listing of BD-RB. If you select movie-only and there are numerous streams listed, you know they are all parts of the main feature.

shon3i
8th March 2010, 23:15
@jdobbs, i just notice one more possible big problem, x264 form buld r1455 use b-pyramid NORMAL as default, which is marked as not-blu-ray complatible, you need to down it to STRICT or turn it off. This can make incorrect playback on some players for sure.

jdobbs
9th March 2010, 00:51
@jdobbs, i just notice one more possible big problem, x264 form buld r1455 use b-pyramid NORMAL as default, which is marked as not-blu-ray complatible, you need to down it to STRICT or turn it off. This can make incorrect playback on some players for sure.I should have thought of that. I'd read that it was now defaulted to enabled.

jdobbs
9th March 2010, 01:26
I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new release of BD-RB (v0.32.08). Changes for this version:- Added "--pic-struct" to command lines. This should
ensure a greater level of strict BD compliancy.
- Added "--b-pyramid none" to the command line. This
should prevent problems on some playback devices.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Note: I've also added a new hidden option. If you set

B_PYRAMID=1

in the INI file, the command line will set "--b-pyramid strict" rather than "--b-pyramid none"

Dark Shikari
9th March 2010, 01:31
pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray. x264 automatically enables it when necessary (interlaced, pulldown).

You should set strict pyramid, not none. There is no reason why none should ever be necessary.

LAustinTX
9th March 2010, 02:02
You will also see it in the stream listing of BD-RB. If you select movie-only and there are numerous streams listed, you know they are all parts of the main feature.

Yeah, there are 59 parts that make up the "movie only" list. But the full disc has 90 parts and the issue doesn't occur on the full backup. It is an out of the ordinary listing of files, from my limited experience, but given the little I know here, it still doesn't make sense that it would work fine with a full backup and create an error on the very first stream it encounters when trying to encode the "movie only" option. If you are correct in your assumption, then the studios have a powerful anti-backup technology on their hands: filename lengths. Who knew? :) Cheers!

jdobbs
9th March 2010, 05:22
Yeah, there are 59 parts that make up the "movie only" list. But the full disc has 90 parts and the issue doesn't occur on the full backup. It is an out of the ordinary listing of files, from my limited experience, but given the little I know here, it still doesn't make sense that it would work fine with a full backup and create an error on the very first stream it encounters when trying to encode the "movie only" option. If you are correct in your assumption, then the studios have a powerful anti-backup technology on their hands: filename lengths. Who knew? :) Cheers! I don't think it has anything to do with copy protection. Sometimes it's necessary in order to create a multipath original. It is easy enough to get around -- you can always recreate the movie in multiple parts the same way it is done on the original.

jdobbs
9th March 2010, 05:25
pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray. x264 automatically enables it when necessary (interlaced, pulldown).

You should set strict pyramid, not none. There is no reason why none should ever be necessary.Hmmm... I was misinformed. Will having the "--pic-struct" do any harm?

Dark Shikari
9th March 2010, 06:18
Hmmm... I was misinformed. Will having the "--pic-struct" do any harm?It'll waste a few bits.

Anyways, we're currently getting Criterion to do some Blu-ray validation for us. If everything passes, NAL-HRD will be officially done and x264 will support creation of real Blu-ray compliant streams.

RichardB
9th March 2010, 06:49
Hi jdobbs,

As promised yesterday, I re-ripped Batman,TDK, and let it cook overnight and through most today with DVD Rebuilder. Below is the log.

[20:29:41] BD Rebuilder v0.32.07 (beta)
- Source: THE_DARK_KNIGHT
- Input BD size: 37.92 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:47:28.960]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:29:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:29:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [20:29:42] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 4)
- [20:29:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,800 frames
- [20:29:42] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:30:19] Video Encode complete
- [20:30:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:30:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:30:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [20:30:35] Reencoding: VID_00005 (2 of 4)
- [20:30:35] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [20:31:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,498 frames
- [20:31:25] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:36:00] Video Encode complete
- [20:36:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:36:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:36:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [20:39:28] Reencoding: VID_00008 (3 of 4)
- [20:39:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 115,411 frames
- Bitrate: 5,672 Kbs
- [20:39:28] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:26:18] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:09:26] Video Encode complete
- [02:09:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:09:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:11:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [02:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00007 (4 of 4)
- [02:28:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 218,981 frames
- Bitrate: 16,276 Kbs
- [02:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:01:05] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:31:03] Video Encode complete
- [14:31:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:33:16] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:48:25]PHASE ONE complete
[14:48:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:48:25] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[14:48:31] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[14:48:31] BURNING BD structure to disc


Unfortunately, the disc never burned. Here's what my computer said to me:

I/O Error!
Device (0:0:0) Pioneer BD-RW
BDR-205 1.04 (D:) (ATAPI)

SCAI Status 0X02
Interpretation: Check Condition

SDB = AA 00 00 13 EO 20 0000 99 20 40 00
Interpretation = Write (12) - Sectors: 1302560-1302591

Sense Area - 71 00 04 00 13 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 44 00 00 0000 00

Interpretation: Internal Target Failure

Then when I click on "Retry" at the bottom of the message, the message simply repeats.

When I go into the working files area and click on the streams to play with VLC, they do work. I am a novice with all these files as well as IMG Burns, so would you direct me (or tell me) what files (or folders) I need to manually drag over to IMG Burn, so I an see if a bluray 25 will work so I don't have to re run the program and try again for another 18 hours? Also, is 18 hours really necessary to get a high quality version of this disc?

Thanks again,
Richard

Capsbackup
9th March 2010, 07:37
@RichardB;
If you look inside of the destination folder you chose for your backup, you will see a folder named after your source. Inside of this folder will be two folders, BDMV and CERTIFICATE. Those contain the files you need to burn.
You will want to use IMGBurn, udf 2.5. ( IMGBurn will set it up for you )
I would recommend creating an image first that you can test with a software player like PowerDVD. Then, if all looks good, test burn to a BD-RE for playback on your standalone. If all is still good, burn to BD-R.

shon3i
9th March 2010, 08:22
It'll waste a few bits.Verificators are always look for this flag (i know they maybe are wrong), all comercial encoders are use by default, earlier HRD patches are use it by default, so is completly safe, and will not make any harm.

Anyways, we're currently getting Criterion to do some Blu-ray validation for us. If everything passes, NAL-HRD will be officially done and x264 will support creation of real Blu-ray compliant streams. I cant wait to see that day :D

@jdobbs, thanks for quick update.

colinhunt
9th March 2010, 11:08
Anyways, we're currently getting Criterion to do some Blu-ray validation for us. If everything passes, NAL-HRD will be officially done and x264 will support creation of real Blu-ray compliant streams.
That is absolutely fantastic. Can I read more about this validation process anywhere?

DK
9th March 2010, 18:07
I'm not 100% sure (because I did not save the project so that I would be able to doublecheck now) but I have the impression that in batchmode 32.08 "forgets" the selected audio streams and uses the default settings.

Can anyone confirm this?


+++++

Seems like I was fooled by BD RB:
the conversion is fine with only the selected audio streams I wanted BUT BD RB displayed (after it had finished) ALL default audio streams and not the selection I had made.

RichardB
9th March 2010, 19:10
If you look inside of the destination folder you chose for your backup, you will see a folder named after your source. Inside of this folder will be two folders, BDMV and CERTIFICATE. Those contain the files you need to burn.
You will want to use IMGBurn, udf 2.5. ( IMGBurn will set it up for you )
I would recommend creating an image first that you can test with a software player like PowerDVD. Then, if all looks good, test burn to a BD-RE for playback on your standalone. If all is still good, burn to BD-R.

I'm a little confused, sorry...

Under THE_DARK_KIGHT source folder contains the folder:
CERTIFICATE
If I open CERTIFICATE I get a bunch of small files and two folders:
BACKUP
BDMV

Do I drag the entire CERTIFICATE folder over, or just the BDMV folder, or any other combination / permutation?

Also, what is udf 2.5 and how do I make sure it is activated?

Richard

rippn
9th March 2010, 19:26
pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray. x264 automatically enables it when necessary (interlaced, pulldown).

You should set strict pyramid, not none. There is no reason why none should ever be necessary.

Is there any way to set these parameters in the current build, or is there going to be a new release soon making these corrections?

shon3i
9th March 2010, 19:35
Is there any way to set these parameters in the current build, or is there going to be a new release soon making these corrections?
is already on in current build

DK
9th March 2010, 19:36
I'm a little confused, sorry...

Under THE_DARK_KIGHT source folder contains the folder:
CERTIFICATE
If I open CERTIFICATE I get a bunch of small files and two folders:
BACKUP
BDMV

Do I drag the entire CERTIFICATE folder over, or just the BDMV folder, or any other combination / permutation?

Also, what is udf 2.5 and how do I make sure it is activated?

Richard

Drag "The Dark Knight" folder - it contains all necessary files/folders

Imgburn normally sets UDF 2.50 automatically (for BD material) but you can doublecheck in the "Options" tab.

deank
9th March 2010, 19:45
FWIW BDMV folder has no place inside CERTIFICATE...

You must have

\CERTIFICATE
\BDMV

Dean

rippn
9th March 2010, 20:15
is already on in current build

Latest release notes:

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new release of BD-RB (v0.32.08). Changes for this version:- Added "--pic-struct" to command lines. This should
ensure a greater level of strict BD compliancy.
- Added "--b-pyramid none" to the command line. This
should prevent problems on some playback devices.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Note: I've also added a new hidden option. If you set

B_PYRAMID=1

in the INI file, the command line will set "--b-pyramid strict" rather than "--b-pyramid none"

Comment by the x264 developer:

pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray. x264 automatically enables it when necessary (interlaced, pulldown).

You should set strict pyramid, not none. There is no reason why none should ever be necessary.

So you can set the B_PYRAMID=1 to enable strict pyramid, but is there any way to disable the --pic-struct command?

shon3i
9th March 2010, 20:25
There is no reason to disable pic-struct, it should be stay always ON. No reason to disable it.

rippn
9th March 2010, 21:26
There is no reason to disable pic-struct, it should be stay always ON. No reason to disable it.

Not trying to be a dick, but are you following the thread at all?

pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray.
Hmmm... I was misinformed. Will having the "--pic-struct" do any harm?
It'll waste a few bits.

Dark Shikari
9th March 2010, 21:50
Not trying to be a dick, but are you following the thread at all?He's right. If Blu-ray analyzers want it, keep it, it can't hurt. A few bits is nothing at Blu-ray bitrates.

gerald410
9th March 2010, 22:20
pic struct is completely unnecessary for Blu-ray. x264 automatically enables it when necessary (interlaced, pulldown).

You should set strict pyramid, not none. There is no reason why none should ever be necessary.

I'm sorry I'm slightly confused is the default for the program "pyramid none" ?is "strict" more desirable?

Revgen
10th March 2010, 00:31
I'm sorry I'm slightly confused is the default for the program "pyramid none" ?is "strict" more desirable?

The default is "Normal".

"Strict" isn't as efficient as "Normal", but is necessary for Blu-Ray compatibility.

PhilippeB
10th March 2010, 00:33
Hi firends & BD Rebuilder enthusiasts,

Last weekend was the end of my Win7 RC1 and re-installation of a full version (windows 7-64 ultimate).
Like with all re-installations usually comes trouble, first thing i tried is BD-Rebuilder to make sure everything was okay.

I sucessfully Rebuilt a 'Movie only' with no problem = 100% working.

HOWEVER, only two days after that, i am now unable to do anything. Each time i run BD-Rebuilder, when it gets to encoding, x264 stops working (looks like it crashes)
I am currently running BD-rebuilder (0.32.05). Latest abvailable version = same result.

Windows doesn't give any clue why x264 crashes.
When the first crash happened, i was running Handbrake in the background (also using x264 as an encoder) so my first guess was 'x264 doesn't like to be run in multiple instances'.
I closed everything and rebooted but no effect.

Curiously, Handbrake doesn't seems to have any problem (still) using x264 (no crash) but nothin' to do when it's called by BD-Rebuilder (running alone in the machine).

I also tough of a crappy data left over in some mysterious 'AppData/User/Roam/x264...' path but i cannot find where (if any) x264 would store temporary config data.

Anyone have any clue on this ?

Thanxs !

RichardB
10th March 2010, 00:36
FWIW BDMV folder has no place inside CERTIFICATE...

You must have

\CERTIFICATE
\BDMV

Dean

Hi Dean!

In the THE_DARK_KNIGHT folder I have ONE folder ...

CERTIFICATE

under CERTIFICATE I have two folders...

BACKUP and BDMV
plus a bunch of little things (app.discount, bu.discount, id.bdmu,online.online,online.sig)

did I screw up? What do I drag over? (Seems to me I can't drag the Certificate AND MDMV file together if BDMV is a subset of Certificate!?!?).

Richard

Capsbackup
10th March 2010, 00:51
There are two folders you want, BDMV and CERTIFICATE. Check your original source disc, it will have two just like this. Any other folders are unnecessary.
So you should have one folder with the name "DARK KNIGHT" that was inside the destination folder you selected. That is the folder you want to direct IMGBurn to. And inside of that folder will be the other two folders. Thats it!

jdobbs
10th March 2010, 00:53
I'm not 100% sure (because I did not save the project so that I would be able to doublecheck now) but I have the impression that in batchmode 32.08 "forgets" the selected audio streams and uses the default settings.

Can anyone confirm this?


+++++

Seems like I was fooled by BD RB:
the conversion is fine with only the selected audio streams I wanted BUT BD RB displayed (after it had finished) ALL default audio streams and not the selection I had made. You have to look at the streams while the encoding is being accomplished. BD-RB loads the selections from batch -- but returns them to their previous state after completion.

Capsbackup
10th March 2010, 00:59
Hi firends & BD Rebuilder enthusiasts,

Last weekend was the end of my Win7 RC1 and re-installation of a full version (windows 7-64 ultimate).
Like with all re-installations usually comes trouble, first thing i tried is BD-Rebuilder to make sure everything was okay.

I sucessfully Rebuilt a 'Movie only' with no problem = 100% working.

HOWEVER, only two days after that, i am now unable to do anything. Each time i run BD-Rebuilder, when it gets to encoding, x264 stops working (looks like it crashes)
I am currently running BD-rebuilder (0.32.05). Latest abvailable version = same result.

Windows doesn't give any clue why x264 crashes.
When the first crash happened, i was running Handbrake in the background (also using x264 as an encoder) so my first guess was 'x264 doesn't like to be run in multiple instances'.
I closed everything and rebooted but no effect.

Curiously, Handbrake doesn't seems to have any problem (still) using x264 (no crash) but nothin' to do when it's called by BD-Rebuilder (running alone in the machine).

I also tough of a crappy data left over in some mysterious 'AppData/User/Roam/x264...' path but i cannot find where (if any) x264 would store temporary config data.

Anyone have any clue on this ?

Thanxs !

If handbrake installs any codecs, or changes the priorities of codecs, this is most likely your issue.:cool:
Start all over again with the uninstall first of the three programs jdobbs recommends, Avisynth, haali, and ffdshow. Reboot. install those three programs again.
Unzip a fresh BD-RB, "Look in the BD-RB folder. There is a .BAT file called "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" -- simply right click onit and run it as administrator."
Then, if that does not work, right clicking on BD_Rebuilder.EXE and select "Run as Administrator"

gerald410
10th March 2010, 01:03
The default is "Normal".

"Strict" isn't as efficient as "Normal", but is necessary for Blu-Ray compatibility.

thanks for the info. .07 has worked great for my panasonic bd-60. Was concerned about the newest revision in terms of compatibilty with default settings ie "normal"

jdobbs
10th March 2010, 01:30
thanks for the info. .07 has worked great for my panasonic bd-60. Was concerned about the newest revision in terms of compatibilty with default settings ie "normal" Just a point for clarification. Default settings in BD-RB aren't set to "normal" -- you're confusing BD-RB defaults with those in X264. BD-RB v0.32.07 overrides the X264 default, and will not even allow you to set it to "normal" because it would be non-standard for Blu-Ray. It is always either "none" or "strict" depending upon the setting of the B_PYRAMID hidden parameter.

jdobbs
10th March 2010, 01:37
@RichardB

Rarely does X264 ever crash. If it appears to be crashing in BD-RB -- you can pretty much assume that it is a problem with the CODEC that is frame-serving to it -- and that's almost always because some other package has "fiddled" with your software versions or settings.

gerald410
10th March 2010, 01:41
Just a point for clarification. Default settings in BD-RB aren't set to "Normal" -- you're confusing BD-RB defaults with those in X264. BD-RB v0.32.07 overrides the X264 default, and will not even allow you to set it to "Normal" because it would be non-standard for Blu-Ray.

Thanks for the info, great job by the way on the program. I will be updating to .08 shortly. Will be donating to the cause again soon thx.

mysticwizard
10th March 2010, 03:41
Hi !

Okay, I'm completely confused. There seems to be a disagreement on this forum as to what the file structure should be regarding the correct DVD Rebuilder output. As I have said, my CERTIFICATE folder contains my BDMV Folder along with my BACKUP folder and a bunch of little files.

When I try to drag over THE_DARK_KNIGHT folder in its entirety IMGBurn won't accept it!

BTW.. below is the report frrom IMGBurn, when it first failed when DVD Rebuilder instructed it to write .

I 22:43:03 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 22:43:03 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600)
I 22:43:03 Total Physical Memory: 6,151,264 KB - Available: 4,531,136 KB
W 22:43:03 Drive H:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
W 22:43:03 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!
I 22:43:03 Initialising SPTI...
I 22:43:03 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 22:43:04 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE!



What next? Unless you guys have any suggestions for me.. I'll try to do the whole process (Ripping, Rebuilding and Writing) over again.

Richard

PhilippeB
10th March 2010, 04:21
If handbrake installs any codecs, or changes the priorities of codecs, this is most likely your issue.:cool:
Start all over again with the uninstall first of the three programs jdobbs recommends, Avisynth, haali, and ffdshow. Reboot. install those three programs again.
Unzip a fresh BD-RB, "Look in the BD-RB folder. There is a .BAT file called "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" -- simply right click onit and run it as administrator."
Then, if that does not work, right clicking on BD_Rebuilder.EXE and select "Run as Administrator"


Okay - Always a nice idea - 'Redo from start'. It works although the REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT file wouldn't execute complaining of a missing DLL but at least, i'm pass the point where x264 would crash.. Let you know in 5 hours in a half if everything went fine = )

:thanks:

gerald410
10th March 2010, 05:09
Hi !

Okay, I'm completely confused. There seems to be a disagreement on this forum as to what the file structure should be regarding the correct DVD Rebuilder output. As I have said, my CERTIFICATE folder contains my BDMV Folder along with my BACKUP folder and a bunch of little files.

When I try to drag over THE_DARK_KNIGHT folder in its entirety IMGBurn won't accept it!

BTW.. below is the report frrom IMGBurn, when it first failed when DVD Rebuilder instructed it to write .

I 22:43:03 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 22:43:03 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600)
I 22:43:03 Total Physical Memory: 6,151,264 KB - Available: 4,531,136 KB
W 22:43:03 Drive H:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
W 22:43:03 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!
I 22:43:03 Initialising SPTI...
I 22:43:03 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 22:43:04 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE!



What next? Unless you guys have any suggestions for me.. I'll try to do the whole process (Ripping, Rebuilding and Writing) over again.

Richard

There should be 2 separate folders BDMV and Certificate. The BDMV folder should not repeat should not be inside the Certificate folder . (If there isn't a Certificate folder Imgburn will add it for you). Just drag the BDMV folder over if there is a Certificate folder in the same location it(imgburn) will move it over for you. Good luck

jdobbs
10th March 2010, 05:32
Thanks for the info, great job by the way on the program. I will be updating to .08 shortly. Will be donating to the cause again soon thx. Whoops, got my versions mixed up. .08 is the one that sets b-pyramid.

jdobbs
10th March 2010, 05:35
Hi !

Okay, I'm completely confused. There seems to be a disagreement on this forum as to what the file structure should be regarding the correct DVD Rebuilder output. As I have said, my CERTIFICATE folder contains my BDMV Folder along with my BACKUP folder and a bunch of little files.

When I try to drag over THE_DARK_KNIGHT folder in its entirety IMGBurn won't accept it!

BTW.. below is the report frrom IMGBurn, when it first failed when DVD Rebuilder instructed it to write .

I 22:43:03 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 22:43:03 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7600)
I 22:43:03 Total Physical Memory: 6,151,264 KB - Available: 4,531,136 KB
W 22:43:03 Drive H:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
W 22:43:03 AnyDVD can interfere with ImgBurn's ability to verify accurately, please ensure it's disabled!
I 22:43:03 Initialising SPTI...
I 22:43:03 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 22:43:04 Found 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM and 1 BD-RE!



What next? Unless you guys have any suggestions for me.. I'll try to do the whole process (Ripping, Rebuilding and Writing) over again.

RichardThere's no confusion. If the BDMV is in your CERTIFICATE folder you probably dragged it there by mistake. It happens. But BDMV and CERTIFICATE should both be at the same level. If BD-RB created them, they are in a folder named after the disc.

gerald410
10th March 2010, 05:51
Whoops, got my versions mixed up. .08 is the one that sets b-pyramid.

NP thanks for the great program!

colinhunt
10th March 2010, 17:57
FYI, did a full backup of Natural Born Killers (Unrated) with 0.32.08, with "B_PYRAMID=1" added in the .ini file. Resulting disc plays fine in PS3 Slim and Oppo BDP-83.

stage_man
10th March 2010, 18:15
I am having problems with "full backup" mode. The few discs I have tried consistently fail with the same message "error in attempt to multiplex," but when I do "movie only" mode it works fine. For the movie CHE I tried it twice in full backup and it gave me same error in two different places. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[23:10:35] BD Rebuilder v0.32.07 (beta)
- Source: CHE
- Input BD size: 46.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:55:04.198]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[23:10:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:10:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00264]
- [23:10:52] Reencoding: VID_00264 (1 of 6)
- [23:10:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,825 frames
- [23:10:52] Reencoding: VID_00264, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:15:21] Video Encode complete
- [23:15:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:15:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:15:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00266]
- [23:16:08] Reencoding: VID_00266 (2 of 6)
- [23:16:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 21,370 frames
- [23:16:08] Reencoding: VID_00266, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:29:38] Video Encode complete
- [23:29:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:29:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:30:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00267]
- [23:31:17] Reencoding: VID_00267 (3 of 6)
- [23:31:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,611 frames
- [23:31:18] Reencoding: VID_00267, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:03:18] Video Encode complete
- [00:03:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:03:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:05:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00268]
- [00:06:15] Reencoding: VID_00268 (4 of 6)
- [00:06:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 46,531 frames
- [00:06:15] Reencoding: VID_00268, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:38:23] Video Encode complete
- [00:38:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:38:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:40:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00269]
- [00:42:13] Reencoding: VID_00269 (5 of 6)
- [00:42:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 47,977 frames
- [00:42:14] Reencoding: VID_00269, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:08:42] Video Encode complete
- [01:08:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:09:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:10:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00262]
- [01:44:54] Reencoding: VID_00262 (6 of 6)
- [01:44:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 194,751 frames
- Bitrate: 13,733 Kbs
- [01:44:56] Reencoding: VID_00262, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:44:57] Reencoding: VID_00262, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:37:53] Video Encode complete
- [03:37:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:39:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00262.meta
- Can't create file C:\USERS\BRIAN\DOCUMENTS\BDREBUILDER\WORKFILES\TMP\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
[03:39:33] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[00:01:44] BD Rebuilder v0.32.07 (beta)
- Source: CHE
- Input BD size: 46.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:55:04.198]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[00:01:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:01:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00264]
- [00:02:26] Reencoding: VID_00264 (1 of 6)
- [00:02:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,825 frames
- [00:02:26] Reencoding: VID_00264, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:07:05] Video Encode complete
- [00:07:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:07:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:07:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00266]
- [00:08:58] Reencoding: VID_00266 (2 of 6)
- [00:08:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 21,370 frames
- [00:08:58] Reencoding: VID_00266, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:22:30] Video Encode complete
- [00:22:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:22:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:23:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00267]
- [00:26:12] Reencoding: VID_00267 (3 of 6)
- [00:26:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 41,611 frames
- [00:26:12] Reencoding: VID_00267, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:57:48] Video Encode complete
- [00:57:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:57:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:59:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00268]
- [01:03:12] Reencoding: VID_00268 (4 of 6)
- [01:03:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 46,531 frames
- [01:03:12] Reencoding: VID_00268, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:34:46] Video Encode complete
- [01:34:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:34:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:37:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00269]
- [01:38:33] Reencoding: VID_00269 (5 of 6)
- [01:38:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 47,977 frames
- [01:38:33] Reencoding: VID_00269, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:05:03] Video Encode complete
- [02:05:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:05:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00269.meta
- Can't create file C:\USERS\BRIAN\DOCUMENTS\BDREBUILDER\WORKFILES\TMP\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
[02:05:22] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[14:25:57] BD Rebuilder v0.32.07 (beta)
- Source: CHE
- Input BD size: 32.63 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:15:22.739]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[14:25:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:25:58] Reencoding: VID_00262 (1 of 1)
- [14:25:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 194,751 frames
- Bitrate: 7,312 Kbs
- [14:25:58] Reencoding: VID_00262, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:21:51] Video Encode complete
- [21:21:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:23:20] Multiplexing M2TS
[21:30:47]PHASE ONE complete
[21:30:47]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:30:47] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[21:37:42] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[21:37:42]JOB: CHE finished.

colinhunt
10th March 2010, 19:04
I am having problems with "full backup" mode. The few discs I have tried consistently fail with the same message "error in attempt to multiplex," but when I do "movie only" mode it works fine. For the movie CHE I tried it twice in full backup and it gave me same error in two different places. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
My guess is you're running out of disc space on partition C:.

stage_man
10th March 2010, 19:38
My guess is you're running out of disc space on partition C:.


I have more than 130gb free space on drive C:

jdobbs
10th March 2010, 21:10
I have more than 130gb free space on drive C:That error is coming back from TSMUXER when it attempts to multiplex. For some reason that app doesn't appear to have access to that folder -- or at least is getting an error when trying to create it.

That's really odd... maybe an access rights issue?

stage_man
10th March 2010, 21:28
That error is coming back from TSMUXER when it attempts to multiplex. For some reason that app doesn't appear to have access to that folder -- or at least is getting an error when trying to create it.

That's really odd... maybe an access rights issue?

I doubt it, but maybe I should try putting my workfiles in a different directory, i.e. not my user folder? However, I have made succesful full backups very recently with the same setup and the movie only mode worked on the same movie.

jdobbs
10th March 2010, 21:51
I doubt it, but maybe I should try putting my workfiles in a different directory, i.e. not my user folder? However, I have made succesful full backups very recently with the same setup and the movie only mode worked on the same movie. Could you try doing the MUX from the command line? Just type in:

"c:\pathto\bd_rebuilder\tools\tsmuxer.exe" "C:\USERS\BRIAN\DOCUMENTS\BDREBUILDER\WORKFILES\mux_00262.meta"

Maybe it will give a clue as to something that might be happening. (I'm not sure what you BD Rebuilder path is).

stage_man
10th March 2010, 22:28
Could you try doing the MUX from the command line? Just type in:

"c:\pathto\bd_rebuilder\tools\tsmuxer.exe" "C:\USERS\BRIAN\DOCUMENTS\BDREBUILDER\WORKFILES\mux_00262.meta"

Maybe it will give a clue as to something that might be happening. (I'm not sure what you BD Rebuilder path is).

I get message can't detect stream type. I also tried opening the same file in the tsmuxer app but that file type does not show up. I expanded to show all file types and opened it and get the same message, can't detect stream type.

jdobbs
10th March 2010, 23:01
I get message can't detect stream type. I also tried opening the same file in the tsmuxer app but that file type does not show up. I expanded to show all file types and opened it and get the same message, can't detect stream type.Can you post the meta file? I've seen that error before for DTS Express streams, but BD-RB shouldn't be attempting to extract those...

deank
10th March 2010, 23:04
That error is coming back from TSMUXER when it attempts to multiplex. For some reason that app doesn't appear to have access to that folder -- or at least is getting an error when trying to create it.

That's really odd... maybe an access rights issue?

It is good to add some kind of NTFS/FAT32 check for the destination folder.

You know that most users/admins(?!) chose FAT32 for system drive and that would cause such issues with backups.

Dean

laserfan
10th March 2010, 23:11
It is good to add some kind of NTFS/FAT32 check for the destination folder. You know that most users/admins(?!) chose FAT32 for system drive and that would cause such issues with backups.But how might a FAT32 partition solve the riddle of: works for "movie only" but not "full backup"? Are filename restrictions different maybe?

audit13
11th March 2010, 02:42
I searched but couldn't find an answer. I'm using 32.08 and movie-only to dvd-9. When I drop the index.bdmv into avchd patcher 1.06 with indx version 0100, I get an error message that says the file was patched and doesn't change the indx.bdmv but it changes the movieobject.bdmv file. Am I doing something wrong? When I burn the movie to a dvd-9, it plays in my Samsung standalone but not in my friend's Samsung soundbar BD player.

Does 32.08 automatically patch the indx and movieobject files when I select movei-only to dvd-9? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

DK
11th March 2010, 03:32
concerning playback on a samsung:

- did you use "strict avchd mode"? if not, give it a go.
- did you make sure to omit auxdata folder? samsung player dont like it.
- my samsung (1600) does not accept -ROM as booktype; any chance you use -rom instead of +r or -r?

tonimacarronis
11th March 2010, 09:39
I´ve format the pc and only install ffdshow, haali and avisynth (all versions recommended). I made the same work then ever and at the end the same results in ps3= not good. Only codified works in pc.

TheSly
11th March 2010, 11:31
jdobbs, firstly awesome program, and your dedication to this thread is impressive. Was looking back cause I'm sure I saw you comment that allowing the full HD audio sound for a DVD9 wasn't feasible as the movie would be shrunk too much. I just converted Kung Fu Panda to BD25 with HD Audio and the main movie ended up at 8.3Gb, which would be perfect as a movie only DVD9. Would it be possible to have the feature for full HD Audio and movie only enabled for DVD9? In some situations it might suit people. I know if I could get a 6000kbps rip and HD Audio I would be very happy.

Thanks,

jdobbs
11th March 2010, 13:53
jdobbs, firstly awesome program, and your dedication to this thread is impressive. Was looking back cause I'm sure I saw you comment that allowing the full HD audio sound for a DVD9 wasn't feasible as the movie would be shrunk too much. I just converted Kung Fu Panda to BD25 with HD Audio and the main movie ended up at 8.3Gb, which would be perfect as a movie only DVD9. Would it be possible to have the feature for full HD Audio and movie only enabled for DVD9? In some situations it might suit people. I know if I could get a 6000kbps rip and HD Audio I would be very happy.

Thanks, Sorry but it's just not feasible. I'd be spending most of my time responding to posts/e-mails about how X264 and BD Rebuilder both suck because the output is so blocky. Most people who use the software don't even know what a "bitrate" is... There might be an exception every now and then -- but for the most part you just have to resign yourself to the fact that you can't put 10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound bag.

Go back through this thread and count the number of times someone had to be instructed to install the software from the first post and you'll understand...

DVDIT
11th March 2010, 18:49
I did two backups since updating to V32.05 and I am having issues with both backups, one full movie on BD-25 and the other movie only on BD-9. Whenever I press FF or REW keys, the picture freezes and the only way to unfreeze it (resume playback ) is by powering down the player. I am only having issues with Pioneer BDP-51-FD. I don't have a problem with the PS3.

I have done many backups with 31.05 and 31.06 and in all my of my backups the FF and REW function work fine with all my players. What could be causing this issue ?

BTW, I didn't want to upgrade from 31.06 because I never had any issues at all but when I launch BR-RB the program doesn't launch but keep saying to upgrade to the latest beta version. Since my primary player is the Pioneer 51FD, this is a major bug for me. Is there anyway I could keep using the 31.06 without the need to upgrade to the latest version ?

I did two backups with V32.07 and the FF and REW issues I had with Pio FD51 is gone. :thanks:

dvdmansion
11th March 2010, 18:50
Can someone please explain to me why this is happening? I'm trying to do it to a 25GB but fails to encode, tried 3 different computers same thing :-(

Any help is much appreciated. Great software btw have used it for quite a few movies just having an issue with this one that's all..and please keep up the great work.

-----------------------
[12:09:27] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
- Source: 24336595_THE_DEPARTED
- Input BD size: 26.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:35:55.200]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:09:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:09:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [12:09:49] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 4)
- [12:09:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 34,909 frames
- [12:09:49] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:10:56] Video Encode complete
- [12:10:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:10:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:10:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [12:11:22] Reencoding: VID_00004 (2 of 4)
- [12:11:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 37,997 frames
- [12:11:22] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:12:47] Video Encode complete
- [12:12:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:12:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:12:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [12:13:20] Reencoding: VID_00005 (3 of 4)
- [12:13:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 43,263 frames
- [12:13:20] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:14:53] Video Encode complete
- [12:14:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:14:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:14:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12:27:44] Reencoding: VID_00000 (4 of 4)
- [12:27:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 217,679 frames
- Bitrate: 12,911 Kbs
- [12:27:44] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3154)
- FFDSHOW: VC-1 not set to wmv9
[12:30:53] - Failed video encode, aborted

laserfan
11th March 2010, 19:12
- FFDSHOW: VC-1 not set to wmv9
[12:30:53] - Failed video encode, aborted
Do you perhaps need to set VC-1 decoding in ffdshow to WMV9?

dvdmansion
11th March 2010, 19:23
Do you perhaps need to set VC-1 decoding in ffdshow to WMV9?

I'm trying that now, ty.

jdobbs
11th March 2010, 20:50
I'm trying that now, ty. Take a couple of minutes to go to the first post of this thread and read/download those versions of the supporting software. Also -- upgrade to the newest version. It doesn't do any good to post bug reports on software that's three versions out of date. I wouldn't be posting updates if there wasn't something that needed to be fixed.

stage_man
11th March 2010, 21:26
Can you post the meta file? I've seen that error before for DTS Express streams, but BD-RB shouldn't be attempting to extract those...

Put the file on a hosting site instead. Any help is appreciated.

http://rapidshare.com/files/362085402/MUX_00269.meta.html

TheSly
11th March 2010, 21:39
Sorry but it's just not feasible.

I understand that you've tested it and know why it won't work, but I was perplexed why the full BD rip including menus, etc for KFP ended up with an 8.3Gb main M2TS inc the HD Audio. Quality of it was perfect.

How about a switch to enable it for Pro users? haha :)

Race Guy
11th March 2010, 21:39
jdobbs, firstly awesome program, and your dedication to this thread is impressive. Was looking back cause I'm sure I saw you comment that allowing the full HD audio sound for a DVD9 wasn't feasible as the movie would be shrunk too much. I just converted Kung Fu Panda to BD25 with HD Audio and the main movie ended up at 8.3Gb, which would be perfect as a movie only DVD9. Would it be possible to have the feature for full HD Audio and movie only enabled for DVD9? In some situations it might suit people. I know if I could get a 6000kbps rip and HD Audio I would be very happy.

Thanks,

What I've done a couple of times is "combo up" 2 or more flix, with HD audio, onto one BD-25.

You take Dean's multiAVCHD & select the playlists for the main titles. Dump all your unneeded sound & subs, do a "top menu" (personally I like carousel), then output it "full size" (meaning you don't do any recoding) as a BluRay.

Now, you open that output with BD-RB & do a full backup (I like ABR HQ) to BD-25. You end up with the HD audio PLUS probably a higher vid bitrate than you'd get going to 9. You could prolly do the recode with multi, but I like BD-RB 'cause it ALWAYS hits the size "target". I've had multi overshoot on me a few times.

I'd guess that with those animation flix you mentioned, you could EASILY get three on a BD-25 with hi-rez sound & maybe four or five if you went SD audio!

WHATEVER you do, if you can't get this "method" to work for you, DON'T post a report here & call it a BD-RB "BUG"!!!

TheSly
11th March 2010, 21:42
DON'T post a report here & call it a BD-RB "BUG"!!!

You're right. It's not a bug, I'm in the wrong thread. Sorry, and thanks for the method you've mentioned.

ftb32
11th March 2010, 23:13
Hello I have not had problems with encoding but playback on PS3 when I do full backup, I'm using the latest beta with parameter "B_PYRAMID = 1" and can not play. Thanks for your help.
This is the .ini:
[Options]
MODE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23200
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
ONEPASS_ENCODING=1
AUTO_BURN=2
B_PYRAMID=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\RIP_BDW\TERMINATOR SALVATION DC\
WORKING_PATH=S:\WORKING\

ftb32
11th March 2010, 23:21
Hello I have not had problems with encoding but playback on PS3 when I do full backup, I'm using the latest beta with parameter "B_PYRAMID = 1" and can not play. Thanks for your help.
This is the .ini:
[Options]
MODE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23200
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
ONEPASS_ENCODING=1
AUTO_BURN=2
B_PYRAMID=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\RIP_BDW\TERMINATOR SALVATION DC\
WORKING_PATH=S:\WORKING\

Fast and Furius no sound and no video on the menu but if the buttons on a sony bx2

MikeyBK
11th March 2010, 23:49
Hey has anyone else been experiencing random and occasional pixelations in BDs encoded with BDRebuilder ever since version 32.05?
Up until that version all of my movie only BD-9s have encoded perfectly. But every BD-9 from that version on is ending up with random, occasional pixelations of differing length and severity.

I'm just trying to see if it's related to my PC alone of an others are experiencing similar things. My system is running Win7 64 bit

Capsbackup
12th March 2010, 00:11
Hey has anyone else been experiencing random and occasional pixelations in BDs encoded with BDRebuilder ever since version 32.05?
Up until that version all of my movie only BD-9s have encoded perfectly. But every BD-9 from that version on is ending up with random, occasional pixelations of differing length and severity.

I'm just trying to see if it's related to my PC alone of an others are experiencing similar things. My system is running Win7 64 bit

No problems like that for me!

Dark Shikari
12th March 2010, 00:16
Hey has anyone else been experiencing random and occasional pixelations in BDs encoded with BDRebuilder ever since version 32.05?
Up until that version all of my movie only BD-9s have encoded perfectly. But every BD-9 from that version on is ending up with random, occasional pixelations of differing length and severity.

I'm just trying to see if it's related to my PC alone of an others are experiencing similar things. My system is running Win7 64 bitCan you post a small output sample?

iSeries
12th March 2010, 00:38
Hi,

I'm having trouble with 'Jennifer's Body' (full backup). There are 2 versions on the disc, theatrical and extended, both of which are made up of scores of seamless branching m2ts's.

With 'Quicker encode for extras' enabled, some of these m2ts files are getting processed as if they are extras (i.e 1 pass).

Normal?

P.S forgot to mention this is with 0.32.08.

ftb32
12th March 2010, 04:55
I'm doing tests with the players in the BD pc not working at the Coral Win Dvd not work on the PS3 but if your Power Dvd

MikeyBK
12th March 2010, 10:57
Can you post a small output sample?

Sorry I didn't respond sooner but I was out golfing and then having dinner with my buds... anyways, it is starting to look as if it's my system.
I am starting to suspect that my overclocking is becoming unstable (Q9550 @ 3.4 GHz), and have throttled it back to default (2.8 GHz), to see if that corrects things.... will let you and JD know if that's what was the culprit, which it is appearing to be...thanks

saphire199
12th March 2010, 20:35
Please, I could use a little help here. I do not know exactly what is occurring, but the audio encode keeps going away. When I noticed that BDRB was no longer doing the audio encode, I re-installed everything using latest version of BDRB and the other programs from the first page of this thread. I was able to then backup a couple discs with the audio encode functioning. Then it went back to not doing the audio encode (leaving me with no sound). I suspect that another pgm is messing with this, but I am not sure which one, or even if my suspicion is correct. Is there a way to check that the audio is correctly set up for BDRB, and which pgm would it be - ffdshow audio config? I need to verify this before backing up until I find the pgm that is messing with this as otherwise, I get all the way thru the second pass with BDRB only to find out it just skips over the audio encode. Thank you.

MikeyBK
12th March 2010, 22:26
I have now confirmed that it is my system that was causing my issues, so please disregard my inquiry about versions 32.05 and above, they are doing just fine. My system just got a bit dusty and was causing voltage fluctuations when I had it OC'ing @ 3.4 GHz.... Thanks to both of you for x264 and BDRebuilder...Cheers.

Priapismic
13th March 2010, 02:14
I have now confirmed that it is my system that was causing my issues, so please disregard my inquiry about versions 32.05 and above, they are doing just fine. My system just got a bit dusty and was causing voltage fluctuations when I had it OC'ing @ 3.4 GHz.... Thanks to both of you for x264 and BDRebuilder...Cheers.

I too have had some OC related problems, but only on this, my first use of 32.05; x264 has now crashed 3 times consecutively as I tweaked the OC settings back toward stability.
I can not explain the exact cause - Absolutely nothing else in the system has changed (other than the current version of AnydvdHD). I am downloading 32.08 now and will try it at the current, and then the former, higher, settings.
...weird...

Sophocles
13th March 2010, 04:10
A small note:

Remember that when you're overclocking a processor you not only have to pay attention to cooling and voltage, you also have to pay attention to the North Bridge (memory controller hub) and the actual RAM itself since they are overclocked as well. I have a Q9550 E0 Stepping that's been overclocked to 3.6 GHz for over a year and not a single BD RB error to report. The processor can be pushed to 3.8 GHz and appear to be running stable. Once I've found that point high point I then begin to back it down to reduce voltage settings and heat to insure maximum stability.

Since I started using DVD Rebuilder back in 2004 I've come across overclocking issues so many times in forums that it is one of the first areas that I question. I'm all for overclocking but if you're going to do it make certain that you've checked every part on your computer that's affected by it, and insure that they're all in working order before involving others on what could be a wild goose chase.:)

MikeyBK
13th March 2010, 08:27
I too have had some OC related problems, but only on this, my first use of 32.05; x264 has now crashed 3 times consecutively as I tweaked the OC settings back toward stability.
I can not explain the exact cause - Absolutely nothing else in the system has changed (other than the current version of AnydvdHD). I am downloading 32.08 now and will try it at the current, and then the former, higher, settings.
...weird...
I've not had any sort of crashing, just that I was getting some of the recent BD-9s coming out with some pixelating on them. At first I thought it was during the encoding, suspecting that my OC'ing was becoming unstable because I had let my system get a little dusty inside... but I have since narrow it down to the actual rips of the original Blurays, so I am now taking a look at my BD drive (reflashed it's firmware) or the latest AnyDVD-HDs (but then I'd hear about the same issues for others at the Slysoft forums.)

So it appears it has nothing to do with either my overclocking, nor BDRebuilder and x264... more like the drive.

A small note:

Remember that when you're overclocking a processor you not only have to pay attention to cooling and voltage, you also have to pay attention to the North Bridge (memory controller hub) and the actual RAM itself since they are overclocked as well. I have a Q9550 E0 Stepping that's been overclocked to 3.6 GHz for over a year and not a single BD RB error to report. The processor can be pushed to 3.8 GHz and appear to be running stable. Once I've found that point high point I then begin to back it down to reduce voltage settings and heat to insure maximum stability.

Since I started using DVD Rebuilder back in 2004 I've come across overclocking issues so many times in forums that it is one of the first areas that I question. I'm all for overclocking but if you're going to do it make certain that you've checked every part on your computer that's affected by it, and insure that they're all in working order before involving others on what could be a wild goose chase.:)

For someone that is said to have OC'ed for over a year, I'm surprised that you'd mention such no-brainer type things like that.... I wouldn't have been able to OC my Q9550 even to 3.4 GHz if I wasn't controlling all aspects of OC'ing. I've had my Q9550 as high as 4.0 stable, so it's not like I just increased the clock speed and said 'voila', I'm overclocking...lmao.
I just got caught off guard since I noticed a few BD-9s having the pixelating, and then noticed some odd fluctuations in my voltages.. just coincidental though. I have now noticed some of that pixelating in the rips themselves. I have re-ripped those Blurays again and will see how it goes.

But I also did report back to emphasize that it was 'not' x264 nor BDRebuilder.

Sophocles
13th March 2010, 13:03
I've not had any sort of crashing, just that I was getting some of the recent BD-9s coming out with some pixelating on them.

I wouldn't have been able to OC my Q9550 even to 3.4 GHz if I wasn't controlling all aspects of OC'ing.

That depends on which stepping your Q9550 is. An EO stepping revision can hit much higher numbers than a C1 stepping can. If you want to know more just send me a PM and I'll discuss it with you outside this thread to keep it on topic. I just wanted to make that point for novice overclockers to read and take that into consideration as a means of diagnosing a problem before asking for help.

So it appears it has nothing to do with either my overclocking, nor BDRebuilder and x264... more like the drive.


It doesn't mean that at all. Crashing is just one possibility but pixelation can also be caused by pushing a processor too hot or too far.

For someone that is said to have OC'ed for over a year, I'm surprised that you'd mention such no-brainer type things like that.... I wouldn't have been able to OC my Q9550 even to 3.4 GHz if I wasn't controlling all aspects of OC'ing.

Not true at all. Probably the vast majority of currently working overclocks are badly done and waiting to fail or are producing errors just as yours may have done. I've been overclocking since I purchased a P5 160 Mhz processor and I still find the occasional error before I call it stable. Like many I used to run my processor as high as I could get it, stability test it with whatever means is available, and assume every thing is fine. It wasn't until years later when it became possible to backup video that genuine errors began to pop-up. Overtime I learned that's it's better to always reserve a little for extra headroom.

MikeyBK
13th March 2010, 20:57
You need to drop this unassociated topic from JD's bugs thread.... I asked if others were experiencing similar things or not, and once I found the source of the issue as not being associated with the latest versions of BDRebuilder, I acknowledged so and was dropping it...
Never did I ask you for help overclocking, I've been doing it for a hell of a lot longer than your one year, and there is no issues with overheating of my CPU because my system is liquid cooled.... I just jumped the gun since I noticed some weird voltage fluctuations, which ended up just being me over-reacting...

So let's just drop it...thanks

Data24
14th March 2010, 11:33
Problem Matrix Reloaded: The audio stream for a secondary video is placed to the normal audio streams (PID 1A00 -> 1102). TotalMedia Theatre has problems with audio playback. Is it possible to leave the PIDs untouched and to just remove the unwanted streams? Or is it a tsmuxer problem?

KarstenS
14th March 2010, 13:18
I have got a little problem in BD-Rebuilder. I've used it in Windows 7x64 RC1 long time without that problem. Since I've installed (no upgrade) the RTM of Win7 x64, BD Rebuilder rebuilds as it should, but the small Icons in the stream tab are missing, so that I don't see what tracks are selected or not:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3893/41377984.png

What did I wrong?

jdobbs
14th March 2010, 15:43
Problem Matrix Reloaded: The audio stream for a secondary video is placed to the normal audio streams (PID 1A00 -> 1102). TotalMedia Theatre has problems with audio playback. Is it possible to leave the PIDs untouched and to just remove the unwanted streams? Or is it a tsmuxer problem?TSMUXER assigns stream IDs. It does them sequentially -- so if any are removed or muxed, some have to be reassigned. I could scan the M2TS and change it, but since I didn't get any details in your report -- I can't make an educated guess as to whether that would even help.

jdobbs
14th March 2010, 15:53
I have got a little problem in BD-Rebuilder. I've used it in Windows 7x64 RC1 long time without that problem. Since I've installed (no upgrade) the RTM of Win7 x64, BD Rebuilder rebuilds as it should, but the small Icons in the stream tab are missing, so that I don't see what tracks are selected or not:

[posted image]

What did I wrong? Now that's really wierd. Have you somehow replaced the version of MSCOMCTL.OCX on your system? It is used for the treeview... you might try right clicking on "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" (in the BD-RB folder) and running it as administrator to register the one included with BD-RB.

Capsbackup
14th March 2010, 16:07
Problem Matrix Reloaded: The audio stream for a secondary video is placed to the normal audio streams (PID 1A00 -> 1102). TotalMedia Theatre has problems with audio playback. Is it possible to leave the PIDs untouched and to just remove the unwanted streams? Or is it a tsmuxer problem?

I can confirm that TMT3 does have a problem playing back the secondary audio for all three Matrix movies. PowerDVD, if an image is created and mounted, does playback the secondary audio without issue. Also, my Sony S360 standalone plays it back correctly, if you have the audio setup to "Mixed" rather than "Direct".

KarstenS
14th March 2010, 16:35
Now that's really wierd. Have you somehow replaced the version of MSCOMCTL.OCX on your system? It is used for the treeview... you might try right clicking on "REG_MSCOMCTL.BAT" (in the BD-RB folder) and running it as administrator to register the one included with BD-RB.

I got it.

I hat some trouble with registering. When I start that script by using rightclick and "Run as administrator", the path of execution is C:\Windows\System32. As the file was not there, I got an error message. Then I copied the file to that path. Started the scrip again. Same error. Then I remembered, that the "32" in the Name "System32" is wrong, as there are the x64 files stored. The x86 files are really stored in ... attention ... "SysWOW64". So I copied it and the script to this path, opened a console with admin rights, went to this folder and executed. Success message appeared. But in BD-Rebuilder the icons did left. I opened an admin console again, went to bd-rebulder folder and executed the script. Success message. But icons still not there. Now I did delete the files in System32 and SysWOW64 folder. No change.

Now I did open an admin console again, went to bd-rebuilder folder and did unregister the OCX file with "regsvr32 /u MSCOMCTL.OCX". After that I entered the register code and now the icons are back again.

jefrey
14th March 2010, 19:39
i getting this error with x264,when rebuilder starts the second pass :(. ...X264 crashes/freeze under win7 ..

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8365/x264exe2ndpasserror.jpg

steveg32
14th March 2010, 20:53
I'm a little confused, sorry...

Under THE_DARK_KIGHT source folder contains the folder:
CERTIFICATE
If I open CERTIFICATE I get a bunch of small files and two folders:
BACKUP
BDMV

Do I drag the entire CERTIFICATE folder over, or just the BDMV folder, or any other combination / permutation?

Also, what is udf 2.5 and how do I make sure it is activated?

Richard

Howzit RichardB and all you newbies. I understand your pain. Hope this helps (you may want to copy & paste this to wordpad):

1) ALWAYS use jdobbs as your primary "how to" guide.

BD Rebuilder as quoted by jdobbs:

"In order to make this work, you have to first install some other packages. I recommend you use the versions linked below, as sometimes new version changes can cause unexpected issues. Here's what you need to do:

1. Download and install FFDSHOW and the Matroska Splitter. They are required for BD-RB to work and are free. After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled.

2. Download and install AVISYNTH 2.57. If you are a DVD-RB user, it is compatible, so no worry. It is required for BD Rebuilder to work. AVISYNTH v2.57 can be downloaded from http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_257.exe or from http://www.avisynth.org.

3. Unzip the BD-RB.zip file. Put it in a directory of its own. I'd recommend putting it somewhere other than "C:\Program Files" until it has been tested more (because of Vista and Win 7 virtualization).

4. It is highly recommended that you also download and install IMGBURN (see http://www.imgburn.com) on your system. You can actually burn with any software you desire (that supports UDF 2.50), but BD-RB recognizes IMGBURN and does the burn for you.

5. Read the LICENSE.TXT file found in the BD-RB directory. If you don't agree with the license. Don't use it.

6. Please don't post questions or comments on DECRYPTION or ripping methods. I have to assume you know how to do that or you wouldn't be a beta tester. I also make the assumption that you will comply with applicable laws... I don't want to get in the middle of any of that.

7. If you decide to write to dual layer DVDs (BD-9/DVD-9), use ONLY HIGH QUALITY DUAL LAYER DISCS. I have found numerous cases where the same image works flawlessly with a quality (e.g. Verbatim) disc and fails (hangs) on a cheap one.

8. Recommended for Windows XP only: Download and install WMV11 from Microsoft, and set VC-1 decoding to "disabled" in FFDSHOW (allowing the WMV11 codec to be used). This seems to be the codec with the fewest problem on VC-1. For Vista or Windows 7 -- select "wmv9"

9. Please DO NOT replace the versions of software included in the BD-RB ZIP with other versions (e.g. replacing the 32 bit X264 with a 64 bit version). In doing so you are very likely creating a self-inflicted injury that will not be addressed as a bug.

How to use BD Rebuilder:

1. Please note: This is NOT A DECRYPTER. It is a BD Reencoder and reauthoring package. If you are planning to back up discs that are encoded or copy protected using other software (such as AnyDVD) -- that is a decision you are making independently of BD-RB and it is assumed you are staying within the laws applicable to you. BD-RB is meant as a means of backing up copies of discs THAT YOU OWN. It is NOT meant to be used as a means for copyright infringement.

2. Either copy the disc to be backed up to your hard drive or read it from the original. You will find that BD Rebuilder will work faster from a hard drive.

3. Create a working directory somewhere in your file structure. I use a folder called "D:\WORKING".

4. Run BD Rebuilder. Select the source directory (the one containing the BDMV folder). Also select the WORKING directory.

5. Click on "BACKUP". Then find something else to do... because this is going to TAKE A LONG TIME. My system usually backs up a disc in about 12-16 hours. So you may want to consider running it overnight. Your experience will differ depending upon your computer's CPU and disc speeds. Why does it take so long? Because you are encoding at very high resolutions -- and they require a lot of work. Also, BD-RB hasn't been optimized for speed as yet... but in truth the real speed improvements will have to come with updates to X264 and faster processors.

6. After running you will find a directory in the WORKING directory that has been created. It will be named based upon the source. You must write this directory to a blank disc using UDF 2.50 format. If you have IMGBURN installed on your system, you can burn it from the FILE menu of BD-RB. Alternatively you can select "Auto-burn to Disc" from the SETTINGS/OPTIONS menu (and IMGBURN is installed on your system) and the disc will be burned automatically by BD-RB.

7. How good will it look? My experience is that rebuilding to a dual-layer DVD+R results in a backup that is virtually indistinguishable to the original. DVD-5's will work fine for movie-only encodes... and some full discs. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder and is very subjective. My advice is to try it and see.

I have done only limited testing on this program and all in a fairly pristine environment. My playback tests have all been on my SONY BDP-S301 and BDP-S360 standalone unit and a 50" SONY LCD television. I burn using IMGBURN on a SONY BWU-200S Internal BD Burner (which also supports DVD+-R)."
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I am having great success with BD-RB. It works fantastic thanks to jdobbs and everyone that has contributed to this thread.

2) Use the programs that are linked on the first post of this thread:
BD-RB v0.32.08
FFDShow 3133
Hali splitter 1.9.42.1
AVISynth 2.57

3) Also go to FFDShow open Video Decoder Configuration and use these settings:
H.264/AVC = libavcodec
MPEG2 = libavcodec
VC-1 = disabled (with wmp11 installed) wmv9 (for windows 7)

Do not use versions of these programs or x.264 from any other links or web sites. Do not install any other codecs on the pc that is running BD-RB. If you do BD-RB may not work. Remember this is a beta test and for that you must create a beta test environment on you computer. Also you must follow jdobbs instructions to the letter and post sensible bug reports in order to help him perfect this program.
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4) Finally, you can use the following illustrated 33 page .pdf guide as a secondary "how to" guide:

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/305868-The-Complete-Guide-To-Making-Blu-Ray-Backups-(1-1-Backups-BD5-Backups)

NOTE: THIS GUIDE HAS BEEN REVISED AS OF 3/14/10!

Start with page 27 for illustrated step-by-step instructions on how to burn the files, created by BD Rebuilder, with ImgBurn.

ALOHA!

ozmale
14th March 2010, 22:22
Guys,

I don't know if this has been covered before but I cant find it and since it is still happening with latest version I suspect its a bug.

In a nutshell there are missing subtitles in both "movie only" and "Full backup" processes.

Read on for full explanation:-

Your watching a bluray in English with no actual subtitles turned on. During the movie someone speaks a foreign language and the subtitle pops up for this in English.

This is most common in star trek movies where klingon is spoken or in "The Bourne Ultimatum" where Russians speak in the early part of the movie. I believe these are called "forced captions"

After processing with BD Rebuilder these captions are gone. I have tried lots of different options and setting but cannot see these captions.
Just as a note Clown_BD has the same problem.

These captions are often short and you may not notice they are missing but is every option I have tried they are gone.

As I am using BD Rebuilder for full backup purposes it is necessary to have these subtitle captions.

Any ideas or have I completely lost the plot.

Chris

jdobbs
15th March 2010, 02:11
@ozmale

That means you have probably removed them with the settings in SETUP or via the streams list. My recommendation is to always keep all the subtitles. They're small enough that most of the time you don't have to worry about them -- and sometimes its hard to distinguish which you want and don't want just based on language.

ozmale
15th March 2010, 02:23
I was pretty sure I had selected all subtitles but will do it again and manually ensure all are selected.

Will let you know how I go.

Chris

ozmale
15th March 2010, 13:02
Ok,

Just did the bourne ultimatum again.

"Full back" mode the missing subtitles appeared
"movie only mode" the subtitles are still missing

Chris

DK
15th March 2010, 16:11
Ok,

Just did the bourne ultimatum again.

"Full back" mode the missing subtitles appeared
"movie only mode" the subtitles are still missing

Chris

I experienced something similar the other day: doing district 9 movie only

The problem was my player setup.
After the player returned from service I did not check each and every setting and that was exactly the problem: I had not set languages properly so that the "forced subtitles" did not appear.

32.08 definitely was NOT to blame in my case in movie only mode (BD-25) but my player's settings - maybe you could doublecheck/change yours?

ozmale
15th March 2010, 21:38
DK, I welcome your comment but dont think that is the problem.Have two desktop players and totalmedia theatre on the PC all have not had any settings changed but all exhibit the same problem.

Race Guy
15th March 2010, 21:45
Ok,

Just did the bourne ultimatum again.

"Full back" mode the missing subtitles appeared
"movie only mode" the subtitles are still missing

Chris

Hey Chris! To get a "forced" sub to be on in movie only, you have to know:

1) Which sub that is, & once you know that:
2) You have to right click on that sub in the "streams" tab & select "Turn Subtitle ON"

Correct me if I'm wrong, jdobbs, but from my experience, I don't think that "on switch" is happening "automatically" in movie only mode.

ozmale
16th March 2010, 00:15
Hey Chris! To get a "forced" sub to be on in movie only, you have to know:

1) Which sub that is, & once you know that:
2) You have to right click on that sub in the "streams" tab & select "Turn Subtitle ON"

Correct me if I'm wrong, jdobbs, but from my experience, I don't think that "on switch" is happening "automatically" in movie only mode.

Race Guy,

Thanks heaps for that. Was not aware of the "right click" option. However you are right which subtitle is it ?
It appears you can only switch one on which it obvious i guess.

Am using Bourne movie as an example there are a total of 33 subtitles and 4 English ones.

I guess i will have to use trial and error to determine which one.

Chris

jdobbs
16th March 2010, 05:20
Hey Chris! To get a "forced" sub to be on in movie only, you have to know:

1) Which sub that is, & once you know that:
2) You have to right click on that sub in the "streams" tab & select "Turn Subtitle ON"

Correct me if I'm wrong, jdobbs, but from my experience, I don't think that "on switch" is happening "automatically" in movie only mode.In movie-only you have to know the sub and force it on manually.

ozmale
16th March 2010, 05:37
In movie-only you have to know the sub and force it on manually.

Jdobbs

Any ideas on how to find out which one to select manually ?

Chris

Race Guy
16th March 2010, 06:45
Jdobbs

Any ideas on how to find out which one to select manually ?

Chris

On my Oppo, when you play the original & hit the info button, it'll tell me which sub is on. Something like "6/8 Eng".

In that example, it would be the sixth sub on a list of eight. That would directly correspond to the list you'd see in the BD-RB streams tab.

MorbidPenguin
16th March 2010, 07:16
Been trying this on Win7 x64. I have the Matroska Splitter and FFDshow 3133 from the first page. I ran the Video Decoder settings and set MPEG-2 to Libavcodec and have tried VC-1 on both wmv9 and disabled. Nothing seems to work.

[14:03:25] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_DARK_KNIGHT
- Input BD size: 23.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [07:09:48.481]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:03:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:03:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [14:03:27] Reencoding: VID_00007 (1 of 5)
- [14:03:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 218,981 frames
- Bitrate: 200 Kbs
- [14:03:28] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- Win 7: VC-1 is not configured for FFDSHOW
- FFDSHOW: VC-1 not set to wmv9
[14:03:29] - Failed video encode, aborted

Could I possibly be missing a setting somewhere? I've tried changing the settings on both FFDshow and FFDshow x64, but neither seems to make much of a difference.

colinhunt
16th March 2010, 13:01
I've tried changing the settings on both FFDshow and FFDshow x64, but neither seems to make much of a difference.
Perhaps that's your problem. I know my system started behaving a lot nicer once I uninstalled the 64-bit FFDshow.

rotty
16th March 2010, 13:03
Jdobbs

Any ideas on how to find out which one to select manually ?

Chris

I had the same problem with "The Mummy". The forced English subtitle I needed to make sense of the movie was NOT a standard subtitle stream. It was never resolved, may even be a Java prog giving that sub.

Tsmuxer could not see it

ozmale
16th March 2010, 13:39
Rotty,

Race guy & Jobbs are correct you need to find the correct stream and select it manually. Thus I may have solved your problem and fixed mine as well.
For my "bourne" example, my set top players only show 15 subtitle streams yet BD_rebuilder shows 32. So how do I find the correct stream to force ? Well I found that the PC player "TotalMedia Theatre" lists in its subtitle selection menu 32 streams and it had already selected stream 28, which was the missing subtitles. I then redid "The Bourne Ultimatum" with all subtitles but with stream 28 manually selected as suggested jdobbs said in previous post and it all worked fine.

It would seem we need a tool that shows all the subtitle stream and the one that is selected by default. For me at least TotalMedia Theatre seems to do that.

Many thanks to all who have helped with this problem

Chris

MorbidPenguin
16th March 2010, 13:55
Perhaps that's your problem. I know my system started behaving a lot nicer once I uninstalled the 64-bit FFDshow.

My bad. For some reason, I thought it was installing both x86 and x64 versions with the one installer. I've completely uninstalled both with Revo, ran CCleaner, restarted, and ran CCleaner again to make sure no remnants remained.


I still have the same problem, though. After installing FFDshow and enabling MPEG-2, I get this error:

[20:26:41] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_DARK_KNIGHT_BDR
- Input BD size: 23.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [07:09:48.481]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:26:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:26:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [20:26:44] Reencoding: VID_00007 (1 of 5)
- [20:26:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 218,981 frames
- Bitrate: 200 Kbs
- [20:26:44] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- Win 7: VC-1 is not configured for FFDSHOW
- FFDSHOW: VC-1 not set to wmv9
[20:26:44] - Failed video encode, aborted

After going into FFDshow and setting VC-1 to wmv9, I get this error:

[20:27:07] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_DARK_KNIGHT_BDR
- Input BD size: 23.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [07:09:48.481]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:27:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:27:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [20:27:09] Reencoding: VID_00007 (1 of 5)
- [20:27:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 218,981 frames
- Bitrate: 200 Kbs
- [20:27:09] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- Win 7: VC-1 is not configured for FFDSHOW
[20:27:10] - Failed video encode, aborted

So, I'm still back where I started. What's my next move in trying to get this to work?

Thanks.

e143slime8
16th March 2010, 18:33
Bourne Identity and Bourne Supremacy burning problem. Used Slysoft 6.6.2.6 along with BDRebuilder 0.32.08. Have backed up over 50 movies to BD-r 25G discs without a hitch (except for Wizard of Oz, would not compress and play). Have just found that neither of these "Bourne" backups will play on my Panasonic BD-60 beyond the "extras" sections. The extras will play fine but when I go to play the movie, the player hangs then reverts back to the Main menu. I am also not able to choose individual chapters to play. The same result occurs, hangs then back to Main menu. Same result on both of the Bourne discs mentioned above.

Any help solving this mystery (to me anyway) would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks much.

ibanez
17th March 2010, 00:12
Jdobbs
Any ideas on how to find out which one to select manually ?
Chris

I normally extract all the subtitles with the relevant language with Eac3to, which will identify the number of lines of "forced" subtitles - I then include that track.

I have found there are a number of ways forced subtitles are included - either in the main subtitle track (with a number of lines marked as forced - this seems the most common) or a seperate subtitle track (that only has the forced).

I don't have time to check my previous backups at the moment, but if the forced subs are part of the main subtitle track, and you do a movie-only backup and include those subs, and you therefore have to force the sub on manually, will you see all the subtitles or just the forced ones?

It would be good if BD-RB was able to identify those tracks that contain forced subtitles to make it easier to identify which ones to include - but as far as I'm aware (from the Eac3to notes) you can only tell with Blu-ray if subs are forced after you extract the entire subtitle track (unlike hd-dvd). Even better, it would be good to be able to extract just the forced subs from the track (if they are a part of the main subtitle track) and include them (I guess this should be for the feature requests thread).

Capsbackup
17th March 2010, 01:53
My bad. For some reason, I thought it was installing both x86 and x64 versions with the one installer. I've completely uninstalled both with Revo, ran CCleaner, restarted, and ran CCleaner again to make sure no remnants remained.


I still have the same problem, though. After installing FFDshow and enabling MPEG-2, I get this error:



After going into FFDshow and setting VC-1 to wmv9, I get this error:


So, I'm still back where I started. What's my next move in trying to get this to work?

Thanks.


Have you tried the suggestions listed here?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151633

rotty
17th March 2010, 01:56
Rotty,

Race guy & Jobbs are correct you need to find the correct stream and select it manually. Thus I may have solved your problem and fixed mine as well.
For my "bourne" example, my set top players only show 15 subtitle streams yet BD_rebuilder shows 32. So how do I find the correct stream to force ? Well I found that the PC player "TotalMedia Theatre" lists in its subtitle selection menu 32 streams and it had already selected stream 28, which was the missing subtitles. I then redid "The Bourne Ultimatum" with all subtitles but with stream 28 manually selected as suggested jdobbs said in previous post and it all worked fine.

It would seem we need a tool that shows all the subtitle stream and the one that is selected by default. For me at least TotalMedia Theatre seems to do that.

Many thanks to all who have helped with this problem

Chris

Hi

The problem is that "The Mummy" has well over the 32 subtitles streams. I can see all of them on my s/w player and know which one I need to force BUT only the standard 32 are shown in tsmuxer.

The subtitle stream I need is 36 or something like that (cant remember off the top of my head).

SO either they are some kind of txt only subs that tsmuxer cannot resolve OR the extra (above 32) subs are java generated.

Its the only movie ive come across with this problem.

Data24
17th March 2010, 03:58
Sometimes BD Rebuilder removes the audio stream for the second video stream. What is the condition for BD Rebuilder to do so? Is it possible to force the audio streams to stay?

Capsbackup
17th March 2010, 05:06
Sometimes BD Rebuilder removes the audio stream for the second video stream. What is the condition for BD Rebuilder to do so? Is it possible to force the audio streams to stay?

This is not because of BD-RB. Only DDPlus can be included at this time.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=153332

Data24
17th March 2010, 08:06
ah.. ok :thanks:
This is not because of BD-RB. Only DDPlus can be included at this time.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=153332

chompy
17th March 2010, 08:54
Hi

The problem is that "The Mummy" has well over the 32 subtitles streams. I can see all of them on my s/w player and know which one I need to force BUT only the standard 32 are shown in tsmuxer.

The subtitle stream I need is 36 or something like that (cant remember off the top of my head).

SO either they are some kind of txt only subs that tsmuxer cannot resolve OR the extra (above 32) subs are java generated.

Its the only movie ive come across with this problem.

In "The Mummy" the subtitles over 32 are in different m2ts from the movie... loading the bluray with BDInfo will tell you which these m2ts are (one for each additional subtitle), then you can use textST from deank and you will get the needed subtitles in SRT format.

(You can find more info in the post you started long ago regarding subtitles streams above #31: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146501)

Greetings

sunshineh
17th March 2010, 09:26
Hi,
my Bd rebuidler doesn't do anything further after a half hour. I don't get any Error Message. Here is a Screenshot. Does anybody know why?

deank
17th March 2010, 10:24
I had the same problem with "The Mummy". The forced English subtitle I needed to make sense of the movie was NOT a standard subtitle stream. It was never resolved, may even be a Java prog giving that sub.

Tsmuxer could not see it

I don't know if you remember, but I created a small tool (textST) to extract such subtitle streams to text SRT format, so you can later use/import it.

Here is a link to your thread. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1329089#post1329089)

edit:... ops, just saw chompy's post :)

rotty
17th March 2010, 11:49
In "The Mummy" the subtitles over 32 are in different m2ts from the movie... loading the bluray with BDInfo will tell you which these m2ts are (one for each additional subtitle), then you can use textST from deank and you will get the needed subtitles in SRT format.

(You can find more info in the post you started long ago regarding subtitles streams above #31: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146501)

Greetings

Hi

I have had a look with bdinfo but going through all the mpls files and looking at the m2ts structures I cannot see where the relevent extra subtitles are.

Do you know which mpls/m2ts file(s) it is for "The Mummy", that info will give me an example of what to look for.

BTW how do I use txtST, if I try to run it, it just opens a DOS window for a second then closes.

Thanks

deank
17th March 2010, 12:47
You will probably see textST subtitles as sub-path m2ts files for your main-movie playlist.

You can drag/drop the .m2ts file with the subtitles to textST.exe and it will create *****.srt file. It is a CLI application, that's why you see the dos window.

(sorry for the off-topic)

chompy
17th March 2010, 12:52
Hi

I have had a look with bdinfo but going through all the mpls files and looking at the m2ts structures I cannot see where the relevent extra subtitles are.

Do you know which mpls/m2ts file(s) it is for "The Mummy", that info will give me an example of what to look for.

BTW how do I use txtST, if I try to run it, it just opens a DOS window for a second then closes.

Thanks

In my copy of "The Mummy" the additional subtitles are in the m2ts following the movie m2ts:
The "problem" is that subtitles from #33 to #68 are in separate streams: the first 32 subtitles are in main movie stream (00000.mt2s), but subtitle #33 is in 00001.m2ts, subtitle #34 is in 00002.mt2s...


And in order to get the SRT subtitle from the m2ts you just have to drop it to textST.exe:

textST (CLI) (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/textST/) (630KB) self extractable 7z archive (contains calclib.dll and textST.exe), or if you're using multiAVCHD then you can download just the executable textST.exe (http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/textST.exe)(80kb) and put it in your multiAVCHD folder.

Drag-drop your .m2ts or .pes file to textST.exe - it will create a .srt file, or if using command prompt:

textST in_file [out_file]

* in_file must be in .m2ts or .pes format, containing only textST text subtitle stream (one per file)
* out_file if not set, output will be written to in_file.srt

It does quite basic parsing, ignoring styles, fonts, positions and other information, extracting only the text and timestamps.


Greetings (sorry jdobbs for the off-topic)

Edit: Ooops, now deank has overtaken me

rotty
17th March 2010, 18:28
In my copy of "The Mummy" the additional subtitles are in the m2ts following the movie m2ts:


And in order to get the SRT subtitle from the m2ts you just have to drop it to textST.exe:


Greetings (sorry jdobbs for the off-topic)

Edit: Ooops, now deank has overtaken me


Hi Chompy

How did you determin that the extra subs were in the following m2ts files using BDINFO or was it some other way.

If it was with BDINFO could you be really helpfull and step me through it.

Thanks

deank
17th March 2010, 18:38
@rotty: Let's move this to the thread you started in HD authoring sub-forum (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146501), since it has nothing to do with BD-Rebuilder (moreover bugs).

rotty
17th March 2010, 19:13
@rotty: Let's move this to the thread you started in HD authoring sub-forum (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146501), since it has nothing to do with BD-Rebuilder (moreover bugs).

Hi Dean

Yes of course, your right, sorry to have taken time in this thread and thanks to everyone trying to help me.

PhilippeB
18th March 2010, 03:28
Sorry to bang in with this, but after re-installing Win7 (RTM 64) i always get theses messages in BD-RB after a fresh and correct installing procedure:
...
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- Win 7: VC-1 is not configured for FFDSHOW
- Win 7: MPEG-2 is not configured for FFDSHOW

BD-RB works with other codecs, just this one seems to be the issue And yes, they ARE set correctly in FFDShow so i don't understand why theses messages are outputed to debug screen.
I've read at least 30 threads suggestings as many unexplainable solutions - i'm sure there is a simple quick fix.

:thanks:

e143slime8
18th March 2010, 20:57
Have another movie that will not play on my Panasonic BD60, "Did You Hear About the Morgans" when compressed to 25G BD-r media. This particular one I can play on my computer however, when loaded into my BD60, movie won't even load.

Anyone else have this problem?

e143slime8
18th March 2010, 21:01
Bourne Identity and Bourne Supremacy burning problem. Used Slysoft 6.6.2.6 along with BDRebuilder 0.32.08. Have backed up over 50 movies to BD-r 25G discs without a hitch (except for Wizard of Oz, would not compress and play). Have just found that neither of these "Bourne" backups will play on my Panasonic BD-60 beyond the "extras" sections. The extras will play fine but when I go to play the movie, the player hangs then reverts back to the Main menu. I am also not able to choose individual chapters to play. The same result occurs, hangs then back to Main menu. Same result on both of the Bourne discs mentioned above.

Any help solving this mystery (to me anyway) would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks much.

Just a little update. Ended up bypassing BD Rebuilder and burned onto 50G media, Bourne Ultimatum and this worked.

Seems to be a problem in compressed Blu-ray. Not sure if it's my setting.

Any suggestions would still be appreciated.

Thanks again.

jdobbs
18th March 2010, 23:22
Sorry to bang in with this, but after re-installing Win7 (RTM 64) i always get theses messages in BD-RB after a fresh and correct installing procedure:
...
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- Win 7: VC-1 is not configured for FFDSHOW
- Win 7: MPEG-2 is not configured for FFDSHOW

BD-RB works with other codecs, just this one seems to be the issue And yes, they ARE set correctly in FFDShow so i don't understand why theses messages are outputed to debug screen.
I've read at least 30 threads suggestings as many unexplainable solutions - i'm sure there is a simple quick fix.

:thanks: That means that even though you may have setup FFDSHOW to use the right codec -- FFDSHOW is NOT set as the default for VC-1 and MPEG-2. So the settings you made in FFDSHOW's configuration utility have no affect at all. Usually it means you have some other "CODEC Pack" that is overriding it. When you start BD-RB does it try to reconfigure it? It will do it every time you load BD-RB unless you told it to suppress the message. If you did decide to suppress it, then remove the "SUPPRESS_FF_WARNING" line from your INI and restart BD-RB. When it says it needs to configure your FFDSHOW - let it do it. You'll have to "Run as Administrator" for the changes to be made.

Nerz
19th March 2010, 00:46
I'm getting a encountered error during encode after I changed fddshow and other needed software to the versions stated at the beginning of this thread. Before that bd rebuilder didn't encounter any errors but would not encode correctly because even bd25 encode settings output very small finished product. Now bd rebuilder stats x264.exe encountered an error and needs to be closed. I'm running windows XP and even set VC-1 decoding to "disabled" in FFDSHOW as stated in the first post also.

jdobbs
19th March 2010, 00:51
I'm getting a encountered error during encode after I changed fddshow and other needed software to the versions stated at the beginning of this thread. Before that bd rebuilder didn't encounter any errors but would not encode correctly because even bd25 encode settings output very small finished product. Now bd rebuilder stats x264.exe encountered an error and needs to be closed. I'm running windows XP and even set VC-1 decoding to "disabled" in FFDSHOW as stated in the first post also. You set it to "disabled" ONLY when you have WMP-11 installed -- that's what the first post says. Did you install WMP-11?

If you follow the instructions, and use the versions in the first post it will work. If it doesn't... go back and see what you missed.

Brian5970
19th March 2010, 01:12
Having a similar problem as PhillipeB, but with only one title - "The Fourth Kind"

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[18:38:25] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: FOURTH_KIND
- Input BD size: 27.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:03:34.073]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[18:38:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:38:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [18:38:34] Reencoding: VID_00062 (1 of 4)
- [18:38:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,632 frames
- [18:38:34] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[18:38:45] - Failed video encode, aborted

All other titles work fine with current settings..it's just this one movie..any ideas?

steveg32
19th March 2010, 01:56
@jdobbs

I have only 1 HD-DVD (Transformers 2-Disc SE). I would like to back it up to Blu-ray using RipBot264. However, when I open RipBot264 it wants FFDshow rev3300 or newer. Of course I only use FFDshow 3133. Is it safe to upgrade FFDshow to rev3300 or newer? What do you recommend I do?

PhilippeB
19th March 2010, 02:06
Yes, This is exactly the title i have the problem with: 4th kind.

No, i have no other codec or extra packs of any kind - Only using BD-RB. This is a fresh re-install due to a previous 'Nothing working'. Remooved every thing and reinstalled everything. Now it works, except with VC-1.

Yes, i run BD-RB as administrator each time.

Yes, Each time it says 'It appears your windows 7 System may not be configured for use with FFDSHOW...' and i click 'Yes'. Each time it says it has successfully been configured.
But then again, if i exit and re-enter, it will fail again and re-ask to configure...
->> (I believe the problem resides here)

If i try to launch the process, each time it finishes unmuxing and gets to the encoding part, it times out on the encoder:


-----------------------
[21:00:50] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: 4TH_KIND
- Input BD size: 25,35 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:00.499]
- Target BD size: 23,93 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:00:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:00:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [21:06:10] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [21:06:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 140*991 frames
- Bitrate: 27*612 Kbs
- [21:06:10] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- Win 7: VC-1 is not configured for FFDSHOW
- Win 7: MPEG-2 is not configured for FFDSHOW
[21:06:12] - Failed video encode, aborted



:thanks:

PhilippeB
19th March 2010, 02:22
May this helps pinpointing the problem not toward a single title but toward VC-1, i scanned all my discs to find another one that was VC-1 and i successfully found this title that won't work either. So definitly it is a VC-1 / windows 7 issue:

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[21:11:55] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_MUMMY
- Input BD size: 29,42 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:53.235]
- Target BD size: 23,93 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:11:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:11:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:18:16] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [21:18:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 179*658 frames
- Bitrate: 19*550 Kbs
- [21:18:16] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- Win 7: VC-1 is not configured for FFDSHOW
- Win 7: MPEG-2 is not configured for FFDSHOW
[21:18:19] - Failed video encode, aborted

::Thanxs::

Nerz
19th March 2010, 05:25
You set it to "disabled" ONLY when you have WMP-11 installed -- that's what the first post says. Did you install WMP-11?

If you follow the instructions, and use the versions in the first post it will work. If it doesn't... go back and see what you missed.

I really appreciate the work u do on a useful project such as this. Because of that I'd hate to be a nuisance. I do have windows media player 11. I have tried the settings disabled for VC-1, even tried wmv9. All versions of secondary software, ie fddshow and others were downloaded directly from links provided from the first posts. Still the x264 error :(. Not sure as to what else exactly i could be doing wrong. here is log

18:56:38] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: 49123204_BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 42.50 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:56:39.781]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:56:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:56:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [18:56:52] Reencoding: VID_00008 (1 of 10)
- [18:56:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,675 frames
- [18:56:52] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[22:11:04] - Failed video encode, aborted

Thanks in advance

Capsbackup
19th March 2010, 05:49
@Nerz;
A couple suggestions to try.
Uninstall Avisynth, ffdshow, and haali. reboot. Reinstall those three programs. Setup ffdshow as suggested, with libavcodec for .x264/avc, libmpeg2 for mpeg2 (or libavcodec if that does not work), and VC-1 to disabled since you have WMP11 installed.
If that does not work, try to add MIN_M2TS_SIZE=250 (or 500) to below the "options" in the BDREBUILDER.ini and see if that will get you past this VID_0008.
If you have any other codec packs installed, uninstall them. Some program you installed has set a different priority order for the decoding of these files.

Capsbackup
19th March 2010, 06:01
@PhilippeB;
BD-RB will work with Win 7 and VC-1.
Suggestion:
Delete your folder with BD-RB and unzip a fresh new one. I placed my BD-RB folder on the desktop, but you could place it directly in C:\. Try it in one of these places for now.
Open this new, fresh BD-RB folder and follow the suggestions:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151633

gerald410
19th March 2010, 06:17
For whatever it's worth my setup is Win 7 x64. My settings for ffdshow are for H.264/avc (libavcodec), Mpeg 2(libmpeg2) and for VC1 (wmv9) w/ window media 11 installed. I've had no problems with VC1 sources. Good luck!

jdobbs
19th March 2010, 14:22
@jdobbs

I have only 1 HD-DVD (Transformers 2-Disc SE). I would like to back it up to Blu-ray using RipBot264. However, when I open RipBot264 it wants FFDshow rev3300 or newer. Of course I only use FFDshow 3133. Is it safe to upgrade FFDshow to rev3300 or newer? What do you recommend I do? I definitely need to find a newer version that is safe for use... but I haven't tested it and can't be sure which one that might be. All I can say for sure is that there are several later revisions that have issues and don't work with X264. I have no idea why -- as I've just seen the BD-RB bug reports that go away when you revert to 3133.

Try it... and if it works, let me know.

jdobbs
19th March 2010, 14:24
Yes, This is exactly the title i have the problem with: 4th kind.

No, i have no other codec or extra packs of any kind - Only using BD-RB. This is a fresh re-install due to a previous 'Nothing working'. Remooved every thing and reinstalled everything. Now it works, except with VC-1.

Yes, i run BD-RB as administrator each time.

Yes, Each time it says 'It appears your windows 7 System may not be configured for use with FFDSHOW...' and i click 'Yes'. Each time it says it has successfully been configured.
But then again, if i exit and re-enter, it will fail again and re-ask to configure...
->> (I believe the problem resides here)

If i try to launch the process, each time it finishes unmuxing and gets to the encoding part, it times out on the encoder:


-----------------------
[21:00:50] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
...
[21:06:12] - Failed video encode, aborted



:thanks: This has been addressed several times in this thread and in fact is included in the error message. Right click on the BD-RB executable and say "Run as Administrator" -- if you don't do that, BD-RB cannot make the changes and you will get the message every time it is run.

jdobbs
19th March 2010, 14:26
I really appreciate the work u do on a useful project such as this. Because of that I'd hate to be a nuisance. I do have windows media player 11. I have tried the settings disabled for VC-1, even tried wmv9. All versions of secondary software, ie fddshow and others were downloaded directly from links provided from the first posts. Still the x264 error :(. Not sure as to what else exactly i could be doing wrong. here is log

18:56:38] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: 49123204_BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
- Input BD size: 42.50 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:56:39.781]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:56:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:56:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [18:56:52] Reencoding: VID_00008 (1 of 10)
- [18:56:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,675 frames
- [18:56:52] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[22:11:04] - Failed video encode, aborted

Thanks in advance Have you installed any CODEC packs? If so, uninstall them.

PhilippeB
19th March 2010, 16:45
This has been addressed several times in this thread and in fact is included in the error message. Right click on the BD-RB executable and say "Run as Administrator" -- if you don't do that, BD-RB cannot make the changes and you will get the message every time it is run.

Thanxs but already do that. Run as administrator. In fact, i setted the .exe security so it will always run as administrator. That won't do it.

My installation is a fresh Windows 7 RTM about 1 week old.

Is there a shadow log somewhere created by your utility (BD-rebuilder) that would let us know what really happens when it tries to make the bridge with FFDShow ?
-> I Read somewhere that Windows 7 uses 'Media foundation class' instead of Direct Show for VC-1 among other things. Is this addressed in the attempt to bridge BD-RB with FFD Show ?

Thanxs

PhilippeB
19th March 2010, 16:47
For whatever it's worth my setup is Win 7 x64. My settings for ffdshow are for H.264/avc (libavcodec), Mpeg 2(libmpeg2) and for VC1 (wmv9) w/ window media 11 installed. I've had no problems with VC1 sources. Good luck!

Gerald, do you know if WMP 11 comes built into the RTM release of windows 7 ? I tried to find a way to check the version of wmp but there is no 'About' menu. Don't know if i should re-download it (it is quite huge).

:thanks:

Capsbackup
19th March 2010, 16:55
Gerald, do you know if WMP 11 comes built into the RTM release of windows 7 ? I tried to find a way to check the version of wmp but there is no 'About' menu. Don't know if i should re-download it (it is quite huge).

:thanks:

I believe WMP11 installed with VC-1 set to disabled in ffdshow is for XP installed OS, not Win 7.

Capsbackup
19th March 2010, 17:14
@jdobbs;
It has been quite some time, but I just tried a full backup to BD-5 of a Universal title(Couples Retreat), and though the backup finished successfully, when the main movie is playing back on either of my Sony's, S360 or BX1, there is no audio heard or subtitles displayed. I know this was an issue some time back, but I thought it had been corrected. :confused:
I can set the english subtitle through the menu, but it still is not displayed. Also, trying to change subtitle tracks from the remote while the movie is playing does nothing.
For the audio, I chose to keep one english 640kbps 5.1AC3, which is heard when playing back on my PC, but not on the standalones.
Also, normally my receiver will display Dolby Digital while playing back this type of audio, but for this movie, it only displays "Stereo", which is what I see when playing back a 2.0 AC3 audio file. The display on the Sony Player does display the correct DD 5.1 audio, but, for whatever reason, this information is not being transmitted to the receiver. I am not able to select/change the audio track thru the remote either, as nothing happens when I select/press the audio button on the remote. For my other backups, pressing the audio button will display the other audio tracks available, but continue with the english audio I chose to keep.
So what could be so different/unique about Universal titles that causes this unheard audio and not displayed subtitles? :confused:

jdobbs
19th March 2010, 18:46
Thanxs but already do that. Run as administrator. In fact, i setted the .exe security so it will always run as administrator. That won't do it.

My installation is a fresh Windows 7 RTM about 1 week old.

Is there a shadow log somewhere created by your utility (BD-rebuilder) that would let us know what really happens when it tries to make the bridge with FFDShow ?
-> I Read somewhere that Windows 7 uses 'Media foundation class' instead of Direct Show for VC-1 among other things. Is this addressed in the attempt to bridge BD-RB with FFD Show ?

Thanxs I'm sorry but I just don't buy that.

When BD Rebuilder makes those changes, it checks them to make sure they have been changed -- and tells you if they aren't. If it is coming back again later telling you they weren't -- then something -- either you or some other software are setting them back...

jdobbs
19th March 2010, 18:48
Gerald, do you know if WMP 11 comes built into the RTM release of windows 7 ? I tried to find a way to check the version of wmp but there is no 'About' menu. Don't know if i should re-download it (it is quite huge).

:thanks: Windows 7 comes with WMP-12... and it has completely reconfigured how DirectShow works... so don't even try to install WMP-11...

gerald410
19th March 2010, 19:32
Windows 7 comes with WMP-12... and it has completely reconfigured how DirectShow works... so don't even try to install WMP-11...

I'm terribly sorry, I just checked and I am running windows media 12!(win 7 x64). You can flog me now:)

PhilippeB
19th March 2010, 20:55
I'm sorry but I just don't buy that.

When BD Rebuilder makes those changes, it checks them to make sure they have been changed -- and tells you if they aren't. If it is coming back again later telling you they weren't -- then something -- either you or some other software are setting them back...

Buying it or not - this is what is happening. If you want, i can Film it to you with my digital camera while i click it and send the vdo to you wherever you want. (You may include extra steps to have me look in the registry where you modify the keys to see if they indeed have been modified or not).

Meanwhile, there is nothing else running in my machine when i do this so i fail to see what would undo the changes.

I would really appreciate if somebody can bring some other input because VC-1 is like almost 25% of everything on Blu-Ray. Not being able to use that codec is a big loss.

Previous versions of BD-Rebuilder had worked fine for me with VC-1 on the same machine. The only thing that changed recently is Win7 RC1 -> Win7 RTM, and BD-Rebuilder i had to upgrade because previous version had expired.
Otherwise it was working perfectly before that.

:thanks:

PhilippeB
19th March 2010, 20:59
I'm terribly sorry, I just checked and I am running windows media 12!(win 7 x64). You can flog me now:)

Thanxs - At least now i know which version i have. But i never use it anyways, my only objective is to have BD-Rebuilder link to that VC-1 Codec thing.

I offer 2 beers to the first that comes up with a solution :)

Capsbackup
19th March 2010, 21:22
Did you try my suggestion above, post # 7325?
There must be some software installed on your PC that is preventing BD-RB's use of ffdshow to decode VC-1 files.
Also: Uninstall Avisynth, ffdshow, and haali. reboot. Reinstall those three programs.

gerald410
19th March 2010, 21:28
Did you try my suggestion above, post # 7325?
There must be some software installed on your PC that is preventing BD-RB's use of ffdshow to decode VC-1 files.
Also: Uninstall Avisynth, ffdshow, and haali. reboot. Reinstall those three programs.

Agreed, no problems with VC-1 sources just did Pitch Black successfully (movie only) vc1-wmv9 ffdshow setting w/windows media 12 installed.

Capsbackup
19th March 2010, 21:41
Agreed, no problems with VC-1 sources just did Pitch Black successfully (movie only) vc1-wmv9 ffdshow setting w/windows media 12 installed.

Good to hear! OK then, I guess will take you off the flog list! :p

PhilippeB
19th March 2010, 22:12
Did you try my suggestion above, post # 7325?
There must be some software installed on your PC that is preventing BD-RB's use of ffdshow to decode VC-1 files.
Also: Uninstall Avisynth, ffdshow, and haali. reboot. Reinstall those three programs.

Of course i did - It's a 1 minute step for me. I redownloaded BD-rebuilder from the top of this thread and unzipped it to the desktop. I right-clicked and ran it as ADMINISTRATOR, said yes, told me everything was patched fine and proceed to my VC-1 title.

Of course, it didn't work.

One question titling my mind is, if BD-rebuilder is, like jdoobs said, check for it's modification to work befaire displaying is successfully setted up things, how come that same BD-Rebuilder re-asks me for setting it up the next time i run it like 5 seconds after ?
As a programmer myself, i can only conclude that the test that he does after doing whatever is necessary to validate his changes is not the same as the test performed at the opening of BD-Rebuilder otherwise things would stick ?

Anyone sees a failure in my analysis ?

For Gerald, i know VC-1 is working with BD-RB and Windows 7 as i used to have it working before i was forced to upgrade GRRR ! My life was simple at that time lol !

Anyways, anybody (by any chance) have the path of the registry keys that need to be modified so i can try to do it by hand ? Or is it more than a matter of modifying some keys ?

:thanks:

PhilippeB
19th March 2010, 22:15
Did you try my suggestion above, post # 7325?
There must be some software installed on your PC that is preventing BD-RB's use of ffdshow to decode VC-1 files.
Also: Uninstall Avisynth, ffdshow, and haali. reboot. Reinstall those three programs.

I just lost my whole post GRRR - Re-Writing Again...

Yes i did your suggestion - it's a one minute try - re-downloaded from the top of this thread, unzipped, ran as admin - said everything was ok, went to proceed with VC1, failed, exited, re-ran it, and asking again for modifying the config...

Now everybody trry to follow my thinking: If BD-RD validates its change after doing it, and it says that it was successfull, how come that same BD-RB says it is not configured next time i run it (like 5 seconds after that ?)

JDoobs ? Can't be the same test you do at program execution than after modidying whatever has to be modified ?

:thanks:

PS: I don't think the problem is with the direct show registry as Newer MP 12 uses media foundation class, not direct show anymore. So whatever the changes that may be done on the direct show side won't affect unless i re-route thing from mfc to direct show ? (Or am i completely lost ?)

PS2: Sorry for the repetition - this Message board said it scrapped my message first time, it seems like it didn't afterall.

jdobbs
19th March 2010, 23:00
Now everybody trry to follow my thinking: If BD-RD validates its change after doing it, and it says that it was successfull, how come that same BD-RB says it is not configured next time i run it (like 5 seconds after that ?)

JDoobs ? Can't be the same test you do at program execution than after modidying whatever has to be modified ? @PhiiipeB
That's just my point. If BD-RB sees the change the first time, and then when run again it isn't there. There HAS to be something changing it back in the mean time... either that or we have to believe start believing in alien intervention. I'm not prepared to do that at this time.

I hate to contradict your last post -- but the problem is very definitely the DirectShow registry. That's what is being inspected by BD-RB when it starts... if the correct entry isn't there for VC-1 in the preferred list -- then the wrong CODEC is attempting the decode. BD-RB is looking at it and seeing that (very definitely) the wrong codec is there. The media foundation class has nothing to do with BD-RB -- because it isn't being used, DirectShow is being accessed through the AVISYNTH filter.

gerald410
19th March 2010, 23:38
Good to hear! OK then, I guess will take you off the flog list! :p

Thx I appreciate that I really wasn't looking forward to it lol.
P.S.Thx again for the great program jdobbs!

chudm
20th March 2010, 00:39
hi guys i had a problem with the gremlins bluray:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5410/gremlinsg.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/i/gremlinsg.jpg/)

everything was fine until that

jdobbs
20th March 2010, 01:12
hi guys i had a problem with the gremlins bluray:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5410/gremlinsg.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/i/gremlinsg.jpg/)

everything was fine until that I noticed you're resizing to 720p. That error (in your circumstance) usually means there is a subtitle stream that just won't resize, deselect the substreams one at a time until you find out which one it is...

chudm
20th March 2010, 01:22
I noticed you're resizing to 720p. That error (in your circumstance) usually means there is a subtitle stream that just won't resize, deselect the substreams one at a time untile you find out which one it is...

ohh i see, thx man!

Capsbackup
20th March 2010, 01:55
@jdobbs;
Just curious if the apparent non-working audio and subtitles on Universal titles doing a full backup to BD5/9 media is affecting you too during playback on your Sony S360?

PhilippeB
20th March 2010, 03:36
@PhiiipeB
That's just my point. If BD-RB sees the change the first time, and then when run again it isn't there. There HAS to be something changing it back in the mean time... either that or we have to believe start believing in alien intervention. I'm not prepared to do that at this time.

I hate to contradict your last post -- but the problem is very definitely the DirectShow registry. That's what is being inspected by BD-RB when it starts... if the correct entry isn't there for VC-1 in the preferred list -- then the wrong CODEC is attempting the decode. BD-RB is looking at it and seeing that (very definitely) the wrong codec is there. The media foundation class has nothing to do with BD-RB -- because it isn't being used, DirectShow is being accessed through the AVISYNTH filter.


Ouuuu ! Alien intervention ! This is exactly what my problematic VC-1 title is about ! (4th kind).
So now we found the bug LOL !

Seriously, can you provide, as i asked before, the registry paths i should be looking into (and what values they should be after BD-RB intervention ?) so at least i can start debugging something ?

:thanks:

ftb32
20th March 2010, 04:51
Hello friends I am here to discuss that today assemble a new PC, with a DP55KG intel i7 860 processor, 2 sata samsung of 1 T, just after installing all the software, install the final BD-RB and gave me my chance the same mistake his friend PhiiipeB, I install everything correctly and set as it should be and also the BD-RB reconfigure.
Solution reinstall software W7 and noticing that was what hurt him, now operate normally, let alone a wonder encoding time.
Sorry for my bad English. this is goggle translate

jdobbs
20th March 2010, 16:53
Ouuuu ! Alien intervention ! This is exactly what my problematic VC-1 title is about ! (4th kind).
So now we found the bug LOL !

Seriously, can you provide, as i asked before, the registry paths i should be looking into (and what values they should be after BD-RB intervention ?) so at least i can start debugging something ?

:thanks:A warning to all -- if you are not careful you can screw yourself permanently by messing with the registry -- and you're on your own when that happens. I take no responsibility for any actions you take in editing the registry.

@PhilippeB
For your problem it appears that there are some keys that should be set but are not.


In this registry area:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Directshow\Preferred

These keys:

{31435657-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
{31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
{e06d8026-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}

should all be set to

{04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}

That tells the system that the preferred DirectShow CODEC for VC-1, AVC, and MPEG-2 should be FFDSHOW.

BD-RB looks at these keys when it loads on a Windows 7 system, and tells you when they are incorrect. It then gives you a prompt and attempts to set them correctly. It then looks at them, and if they weren't changed it knows it didn't have privilege to do so, and gives you another "you need to run me as administrator" message.

When it successfully changes them, it also creates a batch file in the BD-RB folder that lets you change them back to their original state.

Note that on Windows 7 64 bit systems the registry path (in REGEDIT) may be:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred

shon3i
20th March 2010, 16:56
Why not just use Win7DSFilterTweaker (http://www.codecguide.com/Win7DSFilterTweaker.zip) and set to ffdshow, because is recommended over manual tweaking registry.

jdobbs
20th March 2010, 17:02
Why not just use Win7DSFilterTweaker (http://www.codecguide.com/Win7DSFilterTweaker.zip) and set to ffdshow, because is recommended over manual tweaking registry. Because BD Rebuilder does it for you anyway. You don't need anything else like an additional tweaker. I'm just posting this because I was asked for the information, and PhilippeB doesn't seem to believe me when I tell him...

laserfan
20th March 2010, 18:20
@PhilippeB
For your problem it appears that there are some keys that should be set but are not.

In this registry area:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Directshow\Preferred

These keys:

{31435657-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
{31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
{e06d8026-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}

should all be set to

{04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}

That tells the system that the preferred DirectShow CODEC for VC-1, AVC, and MPEG-2 should be FFDSHOW.

BD-RB looks at these keys when it loads on a Windows 7 system, and tells you when they are incorrect. It then gives you a prompt and attempts to set them correctly. It then looks at them, and if they weren't changed it knows it didn't have privilege to do so, and gives you another "you need to run me as administrator" message.

When it successfully changes them, it also creates a batch file in the BD-RB folder that lets you change them back to their original state.

Note that on Windows 7 64 bit systems the registry path (in REGEDIT) may be:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred@jdobbs as PhilippeB has said his is a W7 64-bit machine, the entries at issue for him are in the Wow6432Node, not the first mentioned in your post.

I just checked my own 64-bit system and the Wow6432Node entries are all {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7} but the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Directshow\Preferred are different. And when I run 0.32.08 (beta) there is no mention or complaint about my system at all.

jdobbs
20th March 2010, 18:22
@jdobbs as PhilippeB has said his is a W7 64-bit machine, the entries at issue for him are in the Wow6432Node, not the first mentioned in your post.

I just checked my own 64-bit system and the Wow6432Node entries are all {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7} but the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Directshow\Preferred are different. And when I run 0.32.08 (beta) there is no mention or complaint about my system at all.Look at the last three lines of my post...Note that on Windows 7 64 bit systems the registry path (in REGEDIT) may be:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred

PhilippeB
20th March 2010, 19:27
Why not just use Win7DSFilterTweaker (http://www.codecguide.com/Win7DSFilterTweaker.zip) and set to ffdshow, because is recommended over manual tweaking registry.

Shon, this is something i tried yesturday night. Surprisingly, it succeeds (at least in part) where BD-RB Fails...

I tried Win7DSFilterTweaker_1.9 and had put everything in there to ffdshow (under 32 bits tree). I Then started BD-RB and for the 1st time, it didn't complain about anything. So for BD-RB at that point everything was fine. EXCEPT, it will still fail at the CODEC but without complaining about VC-1 and MPEG not being attributed to FFDSHOW.

Proof of what i am saying is here:

-----------------------
[14:27:40] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_MUMMY
- Input BD size: 29,42 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:53.235]
- Target BD size: 23,93 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[14:27:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:27:41] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [14:27:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 179*658 frames
- Bitrate: 19*550 Kbs
- [14:27:41] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying. <- No more VC-1 not configured for FFDSHOW
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[14:27:43] - Failed video encode, aborted

--------------------------------------------------


Ok, well, it's a start, that lead me to think JDoobs is looking under the 32-bit keys tree rather than the 64. But my machine is 64 bits. Back to Win7DSFilterTweaker_1.9, under the 64-bit tree, for all codecs, the only option available is MICRO$OFT.

Humm.. Does that mean i need to install some set of 64 bits codecs ? Does BD-RB needs 64-bit codecs if my machine is 64 bits ? Or can it uses 32-bit (then how do i tell it to go for 32-bits instead of theses 64-bit that are microsoft only ? Should i install a 64-bit FFDSHOW (Does that exists ?) Then again, i heard JDoobs saying that AVISYNTH doesn't like 64-bit codecs..

Gee - everything was so simple under RC-1 (64 bits still) should never had gone legit with RTM =P

I Will try to do a VDO at some point and post it to Youtube to show it to everybody. I seem to have fallen into a void somewhere. But my objective is to clarify this so next versions can address this problem in any situation (32, 64 or whatever the problem is).

:thanks:

jdobbs
20th March 2010, 19:30
Shon, this is something i tried yesturday night. Surprisingly, it succeeds (at least in part) where BD-RB Fails...

I tried Win7DSFilterTweaker_1.9 and had put everything in there to ffdshow (under 32 bits tree). I Then started BD-RB and for the 1st time, it didn't complain about anything. So for BD-RB at that point everything was fine. EXCEPT, it will still fail at the CODEC but without complaining about VC-1 and MPEG not being attributed to FFDSHOW.

Proof of what i am saying is here:

-----------------------
[14:27:40] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_MUMMY
- Input BD size: 29,42 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:53.235]
- Target BD size: 23,93 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[14:27:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:27:41] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [14:27:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 179*658 frames
- Bitrate: 19*550 Kbs
- [14:27:41] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying. <- No more VC-1 not configured for FFDSHOW
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[14:27:43] - Failed video encode, aborted

--------------------------------------------------


Ok, well, it's a start, that lead me to think JDoobs is looking under the 32-bit keys tree rather than the 64. But my machine is 64 bits. Back to Win7DSFilterTweaker_1.9, under the 64-bit tree, for all codecs, the only option available is MICRO$OFT.

Humm.. Does that mean i need to install some set of 64 bits codecs ? Does BD-RB needs 64-bit codecs if my machine is 64 bits ? Or can it uses 32-bit (then how do i tell it to go for 32-bits instead of theses 64-bit that are microsoft only ? Should i install a 64-bit FFDSHOW (Does that exists ?) Then again, i heard JDoobs saying that AVISYNTH doesn't like 64-bit codecs..

Gee - everything was so simple under RC-1 (64 bits still) should never had gone legit with RTM =P

I Will try to do a VDO at some point and post it to Youtube to show it to everybody. I seem to have fallen into a void somewhere. But my objective is to clarify this so next versions can address this problem in any situation (32, 64 or whatever the problem is).

:thanks: You know, a little logic would lead you to believe that what you are saying is BS... have you noticed at all that it is working for everybody else on the planet who has a Win7 64 bit setup except for you...

If you starting installing 64 bit codecs I can guarantee you will have additional failures.

You obviously know more than I do. But do me a favor, if you post videos about how to do this -- please caviat it with "the developer of BD-RB doesn't agree with this". Because all it's going to do is cause me more headaches.

Hope you find your problem. I give up.

And by the way... my name isn't JDoobs, it's jdobbs. I would appreciate it if you at least got THAT right.

PhilippeB
20th March 2010, 19:38
For your problem it appears that there are some keys that should be set but are not.


In this registry area:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Directshow\Preferred

These keys:

{31435657-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
{31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
{e06d8026-db46-11cf-b4d1-00805f6cbbea}

should all be set to

{04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}

That tells the system that the preferred DirectShow CODEC for VC-1, AVC, and MPEG-2 should be FFDSHOW.

Note that on Windows 7 64 bit systems the registry path (in REGEDIT) may be:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred


Thank you very much. I will look at this verry slowly tonight.
It is okay for the warning, anybody should know it is a risky business playing directly in the registry and don't worry - i won't sue anybody if i screw up ;)
BTW i program under WinCE and have to create / modify / flush keys all the time so this is not a so different world for me.

This is the last step i will attempt. If this doesn't work, i plan to whipeout my entire system and re-install it. This takes me about 2 days so maybe it worths it.

Thanxs for the support. will come back soon with the results.

PhilippeB

PS: The alien intervention was a joke - the movie REALLY is about Aliens abductions - if anybody is into that, it is worth listening to :)

jdobbs
20th March 2010, 19:50
Thank you very much. I will look at this verry slowly tonight.
It is okay for the warning, anybody should know it is a risky business playing directly in the registry and don't worry - i won't sue anybody if i screw up ;)
BTW i program under WinCE and have to create / modify / flush keys all the time so this is not a so different world for me.

This is the last step i will attempt. If this doesn't work, i plan to whipeout my entire system and re-install it. This takes me about 2 days so maybe it worths it.

Thanxs for the support. will come back soon with the results.

PhilippeB

PS: The alien intervention was a joke - the movie REALLY is about Aliens abductions - if anybody is into that, it is worth listening to :) If you set these keys through system functions or via a BATCH file, they will be set in the Wow6432Node area where they are supposed to be through virtualization... but if you're doing it via REGEDIT... you have to know about virtualization and do it by hand. So be careful that you aren't setting/resetting the wrong area.

PhilippeB
20th March 2010, 19:57
If you set these keys through system functions or via a BATCH file, they will be set in the Wow6432Node area where they are supposed to be through virtualization... but if you're doing it via REGEDIT... you have to know about virtualization and do it by hand. So be careful that you aren't setting/resetting the wrong area.

Oki - I went throught regedit because i don't know any other way throught GUI.

Unfortunatly, everything seems to be ok. See the 3 snapshots of the 3 keys in the order you stated them (not the order they appear in regedit) in attachment.

:(

jdobbs
20th March 2010, 19:59
Oki - I went throught regedit because i don't know any other way throught GUI.

Unfortunatly, everything seems to be ok. See the 3 snapshots of the 3 keys in the order you stated them (not the order they appear in regedit) in attachment.

:(Are you positive you are using AVISYNTH 2.57 (not 2.58), and the versions of HAALI & FFDSHOW shown in the first post???

I can't tell from the image -- are those values in the "Wow6432Node" area or the other one?

You may also want to try right-clicking on the streams and attempting to play them back. If the CODEC is set right you should be able to view them when MPC gets executed.

I worry a little that you'd been editing the REGISTRY before -- not sure what impact that could have on this whole thing.

kshock
20th March 2010, 20:33
I have a Sony BVD-E300 and use BD-RB as described in the top post of the bug thread, I have done STAR TREK and 2012 to Optical Quantum BD-25 and TDK DVD+R DL as BD/9 both run great. I did movie only english only sub strict AVCHD. About 20 hrs to do each. The only changes I have made is to check all in the Blu Ray audio. Love the Program and thanks for you hard work JDobbs!!

jdobbs
20th March 2010, 20:38
I have a Sony BVD-E300 and use BD-RB as described in the top post of the bug thread, I have done STAR TREK and 2012 to Optical Quantum BD-25 and TDK DVD+R DL as BD/9 both run great. I did movie only english only sub strict AVCHD. About 20 hrs to do each. The only changes I have made is to check all in the Blu Ray audio. Love the Program and thanks for you hard work JDobbs!! :cool: As I've said before, if you follow the instructions it will work. It's only when people "get creative" that there is ever an issue. I appreciate your kind words.
:thanks:

PhilippeB
20th March 2010, 21:50
:cool: As I've said before, if you follow the instructions it will work. It's only when people "get creative" that there is ever an issue. I appreciate your kind words.
:thanks:

I always follow instructions and yes, i learned to read at school. Appreciate your concerns but condescendence will not fix my bug. Maybe let me feel a little bit more guilty of asking for help but definitly not fixing my problem.

Meanwhile, if you understood my problem was fixed it is not - even with the keys correctly setted as posted, it is still not working... I posted a log just above that shows that and i am re-posting it here:


-----------------------
[16:36:10] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_MUMMY
- Input BD size: 29,42 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:53.235]
- Target BD size: 23,93 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:36:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:36:12] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [16:36:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 179*658 frames
- Bitrate: 19*550 Kbs
- [16:36:12] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting. <- Observe that there is no complain anymore about VC-1 or MPEG2 not being correctly setted up for FFDSHOW
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[16:36:13] - Failed video encode, aborted

---------------------------------------------

BD-RB is probably doing its job but the codec seems to be innaccessible. Why can it BD-RB access AVC or H264, but not VC1 ? Answering that question would probably fix the problem.
I'll probably have to re-install Windows 7 (again) ... Expecting things won't stop working at the first new program install.

Maybe one solution would be to include the VC-1 codec somewhere in next BD-RB package (under 'Tools' folder like the other utilities) and if it doesn't infringe any copywright so it doesn't have to rely on so flakey / obscure registry things.

My point: One cannot stop using his machine fearing that the next program he installs will comprmise what is already working. A computer generally runs more than one program everyone will agree.

jdobbs
20th March 2010, 22:09
@PhilippeB

I recommend that if you want it to work, you start from scratch and completely reinstall Win7. I have no way of knowing what has or has not been modified on your system. There are thousands of others using it on Win7/64 -- including me -- and it simply works as-is. There's obviously something different on your system -- but there's just no way I can put my finger on what it is long distance.

As for including the VC-1 CODEC in the package... that's an extremely tall order, and considering the total of two BD-RB donations I've received in the last month (combined to add up to $27) -- and the fact that I've spend four times that much buying discs in the same period so that I can repeat reported issues -- it isn't likely that I'm going to go any route that adds additional programming time/expense. Frankly it's all I can do in my mind to justify continuing the project at all.

Jagaer
21st March 2010, 00:36
I had the same issue as PhilippeB

Manually using the Last Command in a Console, the x264 1st pass encode was just "quitting" almost immediately.

I downloaded another x264 compile with the options BDRB uses from another site and it works fine.

I am not certain if it is because I am running BDRB in VMWare XP, or because my CPU is old (A64 3000+) so certain compiler optimizations are unavailable, like SSE4.

The debug info given by BDRB has always been enough to troubleshoot what is causing the problem. It has never been BDRB itself, but some of the helper programs distributed with it.

Rob_G
21st March 2010, 00:49
@PhilippeB

I recommend that if you want it to work, you start from scratch and completely reinstall Win7. I have no way of knowing what has or has not been modified on your system. There are thousands of others using it on Win7/64 -- including me -- and it simply works as-is. There's obviously something different on your system -- but there's just no way I can put my finger on what it is long distance.

As for including the VC-1 CODEC in the package... that's an extremely tall order, and considering the total of two BD-RB donations I've received in the last month (combined to add up to $27) -- and the fact that I've spend four times that much buying discs in the same period so that I can repeat reported issues -- it isn't likely that I'm going to go any route that adds additional programming time/expense. Frankly it's all I can do in my mind to justify continuing the project at all.

Fresh install of XP and I've had the same problems a few others are mentioning. Pass 1 of 'Good Luck Chuck' completes, pass 2 fails. I have tried everything from installing wm11, disabling vc-1 etc and have had no success.

I never had problems with previous versions of bdrebuilder. It may not be a fault of bd rebuilder itself, but one of the other applications it uses.

Rob

Rob_G
21st March 2010, 00:54
I had the same issue as PhilippeB

Manually using the Last Command in a Console, the x264 1st pass encode was just "quitting" almost immediately.

I downloaded another x264 compile with the options BDRB uses from another site and it works fine.

I am not certain if it is because I am running BDRB in VMWare XP, or because my CPU is old (A64 3000+) so certain compiler optimizations are unavailable, like SSE4.

The debug info given by BDRB has always been enough to troubleshoot what is causing the problem. It has never been BDRB itself, but some of the helper programs distributed with it.

Interesting. I am running XP in virtualbox myself. I was able to encode lost boys no problem and make it through the first pass of good luck chuck, but it can't start pass 2.

Rob

jdobbs
21st March 2010, 01:03
Fresh install of XP and I've had the same problems a few others are mentioning. Pass 1 of 'Good Luck Chuck' completes, pass 2 fails. I have tried everything from installing wm11, disabling vc-1 etc and have had no success.

I never had problems with previous versions of bdrebuilder. It may not be a fault of bd rebuilder itself, but one of the other applications it uses.

Rob Look at the times in the log. It's probably not actually completing Pass 1... it's just not having an error returned.

What version of BD-RB are you using? If it isn't the latest, download v0.32.08 and try again. What you are describing was a known issue on an earlier version that was fixed.

Rob_G
21st March 2010, 01:04
I ran the bdrebuilder last command manually from a command prompt and it seems x264 is aborting with an error:

avs [info]: 1920x1080p 1:1 @ 24000/1001 fps (cfr)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2 SSE3 Cache64
x264 [error]: ratecontrol_init: can't open stats file
x264 [error]: x264_encoder_open failed


Could this be a sign that the first pass did not complete correctly? The file is there, but I suppose it may be damaged/truncuated.

Rob

rendez2k
21st March 2010, 01:05
I've got the same issue under Win 7 64bit also. BR-Rebuilder gives me no warning or messages about changing settings. Have tried as admin and re-installing codecs and avi synth.

[00:02:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:02:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00181]
- [00:02:35] Reencoding: VID_00181 (1 of 46)
- [00:02:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,485 frames
- [00:02:36] Reencoding: VID_00181, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3322)
[00:02:42] - Failed video encode, aborted

jdobbs
21st March 2010, 01:05
I ran the bdrebuilder last command manually from a command prompt and it seems x264 is aborting with an error:

avs [info]: 1920x1080p 1:1 @ 24000/1001 fps (cfr)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2 SSE3 Cache64
x264 [error]: ratecontrol_init: can't open stats file
x264 [error]: x264_encoder_open failed


The file is there however.

Rob Read my post above yours. It never really finished pass 1... so there wouldn't be a stats file for pass 2.

jdobbs
21st March 2010, 01:07
I've got the same issue under Win 7 64bit also. BR-Rebuilder gives me no warning or messages about changing settings. Have tried as admin and re-installing codecs and avi synth.

[00:02:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:02:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00181]
- [00:02:35] Reencoding: VID_00181 (1 of 46)
- [00:02:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,485 frames
- [00:02:36] Reencoding: VID_00181, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3322)
[00:02:42] - Failed video encode, abortedRead the instructions in the first post. Download the versions as it says to do, then try again. You obviously didn't read/comply because your FFDSHOW version is wrong.

Sorry if I sound rude, but this is about the 9000th time I've posted this exact same answer. It fixed 8998 of the previous issues.

Atak_Snajpera
21st March 2010, 01:54
FFDSHOW Revision: (3322)
What is wrong in this version? Forcing old revision is not a good idea.

Rob_G
21st March 2010, 01:57
Read my post above yours. It never really finished pass 1... so there wouldn't be a stats file for pass 2.

I downloaded bdrebuilder again and cleaned out the temp folder. Pass1 is running right now. I gave the XP virtualbox 2 processors and the ETA to finish this first pass is about 3 hours.



Rob

jdobbs
21st March 2010, 05:42
What is wrong in this version? Forcing old revision is not a good idea.Using versions that don't work are an even worse idea. The concept of upgrading simply for the sake of upgrading is silly.

About half the versions released since then have issues of one sort or another that make them stop working with BD-RB. I don't know why -- I just know that going back to that version fixes it. I tell people to stick with one that works or else its just a crapshoot. I'm testing 3326 now, and when I feel comfortable there are no issues I'll recommend it.

sidneysides
21st March 2010, 08:44
I am having a little trouble with the fluidity of some scenes. T

I reencoded a Jamiroquai live concert. The original was extremely smooth when panning around the stage. When I watched the reencoded version it was slightly and jerky and blurry during the same panning scenes. The picture itself was fine with regards to sharpness - pretty much the same as the original - it was just during movement. It was a little similar to the old days with CCE when you encoded with the wrong field first, although not anywhere near as bad - I'm just trying to describe it a bit better.

I noticed the same thing happening when I reencoded Monsters Inc, although this time it was during the scrolling on the menu.

I thought that reencoding would not affect the picture in this way, only perhaps slight blockiness or grain.

I tried the Jamiroquai concert full disc and movie only and got the same result - slight motion blur

rendez2k
21st March 2010, 09:15
Read the instructions in the first post. Download the versions as it says to do, then try again. You obviously didn't read/comply because your FFDSHOW version is wrong.

Sorry if I sound rude, but this is about the 9000th time I've posted this exact same answer. It fixed 8998 of the previous issues.

No problem and thanks for the reply. I've tried installing the recommended versions and no change though. I am actually beginning to wonder if its the source files although if others are having the same issue?

lican
21st March 2010, 10:58
Mr. JOBBY I tried this version fd 3326 everything seems ok perfect video and audio encoding 15:12:29] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: UNDERWORLD_EXT.CUT_[FULL_BLU-RAY_AVC_1080P_LPCM_5.1]
- Input BD size: 36,25 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:37.009]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:12:29] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:12:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [15:19:13] Reencoding: VID_00011 (1 of 1)
- [15:19:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 192.216 frames
- Bitrate: 17.021 Kbs
- [15:19:13] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:04:20] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:35:06] Video Encode complete
- [23:35:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:35:06] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:43:50]PHASE ONE complete
[23:43:50]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:43:50] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:57:31] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23:57:31] BURNING BD structure to disc
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[01:19:48]JOB: UNDERWORLD_EXT.CUT_[FULL_BLU-RAY_AVC_1080P_LPCM_5.1] finished.

Rob_G
21st March 2010, 20:39
Pass 1 completes, pass 2 fails to start still.

[22:35:44] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: GOOD_LUCK_CHUCK
- Input BD size: 27.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:41:18.113]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[22:35:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:35:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:49:31] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [22:49:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 145,729 frames
- Bitrate: 9,315 Kbs
- [22:49:32] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:19:49] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[02:19:56] - Failed video encode, aborted

ViolentA79
21st March 2010, 21:51
Ok, so I dual boot Windows 7 64 bit and Win Vista 32 bit.

I backed up New Moon using anydvd and tried to rebuild it. It keeps rebooting my machine so i don't have the log.

I switched to Vista and it almost finished... BUT then it prompts me if I wanted overwrite my files where i have the rip.

If i Click NO, it aborts. If I click YES, it aborts and also deletes everything in my file. Now i have to re-rip it.

-----------------------
[14:03:49] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: NEW_MOONRIP
- Input BD size: 42.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:25.382]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:03:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:03:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00552]
- [14:03:51] Reencoding: VID_00552 (1 of 16)
- [14:03:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 144 frames
- [14:03:51] Reencoding: VID_00552, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:04:01] Video Encode complete
- [14:04:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:04:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:04:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00555]
- [14:04:04] Reencoding: VID_00555 (2 of 16)
- [14:04:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,786 frames
- [14:04:04] Reencoding: VID_00555, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:04:22] Video Encode complete
- [14:04:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:04:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:04:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00553]
- [14:04:29] Reencoding: VID_00553 (3 of 16)
- [14:04:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,834 frames
- [14:04:29] Reencoding: VID_00553, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:05:09] Video Encode complete
- [14:05:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:05:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:05:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00556]
- [14:05:20] Reencoding: VID_00556 (4 of 16)
- [14:05:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,654 frames
- [14:05:20] Reencoding: VID_00556, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:06:03] Video Encode complete
- [14:06:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:06:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:06:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00554]
- [14:06:14] Reencoding: VID_00554 (5 of 16)
- [14:06:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,804 frames
- [14:06:14] Reencoding: VID_00554, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:06:54] Video Encode complete
- [14:06:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:06:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:06:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [14:07:05] Reencoding: VID_00042 (6 of 16)
- [14:07:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,370 frames
- [14:07:05] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:07:37] Video Encode complete
- [14:07:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:07:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:07:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00559]
- [14:07:56] Reencoding: VID_00559 (7 of 16)
- [14:07:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,504 frames
- [14:07:56] Reencoding: VID_00559, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:09:12] Video Encode complete
- [14:09:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:09:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:09:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00558]
- [14:09:35] Reencoding: VID_00558 (8 of 16)
- [14:09:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,648 frames
- [14:09:35] Reencoding: VID_00558, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:10:57] Video Encode complete
- [14:10:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:10:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:11:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00557]
- [14:11:20] Reencoding: VID_00557 (9 of 16)
- [14:11:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,648 frames
- [14:11:20] Reencoding: VID_00557, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:12:42] Video Encode complete
- [14:12:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:12:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:12:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00547]
- [14:13:06] Reencoding: VID_00547 (10 of 16)
- [14:13:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,904 frames
- [14:13:06] Reencoding: VID_00547, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:15:23] Video Encode complete
- [14:15:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:15:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:15:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00546]
- [14:15:48] Reencoding: VID_00546 (11 of 16)
- [14:15:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,480 frames
- [14:15:49] Reencoding: VID_00546, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:18:19] Video Encode complete
- [14:18:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:18:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:18:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00548]
- [14:19:02] Reencoding: VID_00548 (12 of 16)
- [14:19:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,256 frames
- [14:19:02] Reencoding: VID_00548, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:23:12] Video Encode complete
- [14:23:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:23:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:23:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00551]
- [14:24:00] Reencoding: VID_00551 (13 of 16)
- [14:24:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,952 frames
- [14:24:00] Reencoding: VID_00551, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:28:37] Video Encode complete
- [14:28:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:28:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:28:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00550]
- [14:29:35] Reencoding: VID_00550 (14 of 16)
- [14:29:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 15,072 frames
- [14:29:35] Reencoding: VID_00550, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:35:47] Video Encode complete
- [14:35:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:35:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:36:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00549]
- [14:38:43] Reencoding: VID_00549 (15 of 16)
- [14:38:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 43,392 frames
- [14:38:43] Reencoding: VID_00549, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:56:14] Video Encode complete
- [14:56:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:56:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:58:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [15:18:30] Reencoding: VID_00001 (16 of 16)
- [15:18:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 187,944 frames
- Bitrate: 12,319 Kbs
- [15:18:30] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:26:40] Video Encode complete
- [17:26:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:26:40] Multiplexing M2TS
[17:35:48]PHASE ONE complete
[17:35:48]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:35:48] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [17:44:09] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
[17:44:15] - Aborted at user request
-----------------------
[17:44:17] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: NEW_MOONRIP
- Input BD size: 42.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:25.382]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:44:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[17:44:19]PHASE ONE complete
[17:44:19]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:44:19] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [17:44:21] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
[17:44:22] - Aborted at user request
-----------------------
[17:44:39] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: NEW_MOONRIP
- Input BD size: 42.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:25.382]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:44:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[17:44:41]PHASE ONE complete
[17:44:42]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:44:42] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [17:44:44] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
[17:44:46] - Aborted at user request

jdobbs
21st March 2010, 22:08
Ok, so I dual boot Windows 7 64 bit and Win Vista 32 bit.

I backed up New Moon using anydvd and tried to rebuild it. It keeps rebooting my machine so i don't have the log.

I switched to Vista and it almost finished... BUT then it prompts me if I wanted overwrite my files where i have the rip.

If i Click NO, it aborts. If I click YES, it aborts and also deletes everything in my file. Now i have to re-rip it.Sounds a lot like a bad rip...

RocKKer
22nd March 2010, 00:09
ViolentA79....sometimes bad memory will cause a spontaneous reboot. Encoding is known to expose hardware issues.

Use memtest86+ to test.

ViolentA79
22nd March 2010, 00:28
Thanks guys. Jdobbs, I just re-ripped with anydvd. I'm backing up again and will post my results later on. rockker, I'll def. give the memtest a try as well.

JDobbs, should i be changing any settings in anydvd. I just install and keep everything as is.

Warbucks81
22nd March 2010, 01:15
Ok, so I dual boot Windows 7 64 bit and Win Vista 32 bit.

I backed up New Moon using anydvd and tried to rebuild it. It keeps rebooting my machine so i don't have the log.

I switched to Vista and it almost finished... BUT then it prompts me if I wanted overwrite my files where i have the rip.

If i Click NO, it aborts. If I click YES, it aborts and also deletes everything in my file. Now i have to re-rip it.



Make sure you are using the latest version of anydvd as it was recently updated specifically for the R1 release of new moon.

setarip_old
22nd March 2010, 02:04
@Warbucks81

Hi!

I believe what you are referring to is regarding a DVD and not the BluRay version...

ViolentA79
22nd March 2010, 02:38
No, Warbucks81 is absolutely right. The minute i put in New Moon, anydvd told me to get the latest update and would not read the disc otherwise.

Rob_G
22nd March 2010, 03:06
Pass 1 completes, pass 2 fails to start still.

[22:35:44] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: GOOD_LUCK_CHUCK
- Input BD size: 27.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:41:18.113]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[22:35:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:35:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:49:31] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [22:49:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 145,729 frames
- Bitrate: 9,315 Kbs
- [22:49:32] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:19:49] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[02:19:56] - Failed video encode, aborted

I'm rebuilding Pink Panther 2 ar the moment. No problems starting pass 2. I guess BD Rebuilder just doesn't like my Good Luck Chuck...

Rob

setarip_old
22nd March 2010, 03:31
@ViolentA79

First you said: I backed up New Moon using anydvd and tried to rebuild it. It keeps rebooting my machine so i don't have the log.

I switched to Vista and it almost finished... BUT then it prompts me if I wanted overwrite my files where i have the rip.

Now you say: The minute i put in New Moon, anydvd told me to get the latest update and would not read the disc otherwise.These appear to be direct contradictions.

Would you please be good enough to clarify this for me (so I know what to expect should I purchase "New Moon")?

Thanks.

ViolentA79
22nd March 2010, 03:59
OK... to clarify. When i first put New Moon into my drive it told me to update anydvd. I updated it and had no problem ripping it.

Once ripped i tried to use BD Rebuilder to do a BD-25

When i did it in Windows 7 64 bit my computer kept rebooting.

Next i tried vista 32 bit and it got to 100% then prompted me to overwrite my files and never finished.

I'm waiting for my next go-around to finish and i will post the log when completed.

ViolentA79
22nd March 2010, 05:23
Seems that this time we had success...

-----------------------
[20:26:34] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: NEW_MOON
- Input BD size: 42.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:25.382]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:26:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:26:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00552]
- [20:26:37] Reencoding: VID_00552 (1 of 16)
- [20:26:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 144 frames
- [20:26:37] Reencoding: VID_00552, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:26:41] Video Encode complete
- [20:26:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:26:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:26:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00555]
- [20:26:45] Reencoding: VID_00555 (2 of 16)
- [20:26:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,786 frames
- [20:26:45] Reencoding: VID_00555, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:27:03] Video Encode complete
- [20:27:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:27:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:27:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00553]
- [20:27:11] Reencoding: VID_00553 (3 of 16)
- [20:27:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,834 frames
- [20:27:11] Reencoding: VID_00553, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:27:52] Video Encode complete
- [20:27:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:27:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:27:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00556]
- [20:28:03] Reencoding: VID_00556 (4 of 16)
- [20:28:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,654 frames
- [20:28:03] Reencoding: VID_00556, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:28:48] Video Encode complete
- [20:28:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:28:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:28:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00554]
- [20:28:59] Reencoding: VID_00554 (5 of 16)
- [20:28:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,804 frames
- [20:28:59] Reencoding: VID_00554, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:29:44] Video Encode complete
- [20:29:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:29:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:29:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [20:29:54] Reencoding: VID_00042 (6 of 16)
- [20:29:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,370 frames
- [20:29:54] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:30:28] Video Encode complete
- [20:30:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:30:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:30:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00559]
- [20:30:48] Reencoding: VID_00559 (7 of 16)
- [20:30:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,504 frames
- [20:30:48] Reencoding: VID_00559, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:32:09] Video Encode complete
- [20:32:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:32:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:32:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00558]
- [20:32:33] Reencoding: VID_00558 (8 of 16)
- [20:32:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,648 frames
- [20:32:33] Reencoding: VID_00558, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:33:57] Video Encode complete
- [20:33:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:33:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:34:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00557]
- [20:34:26] Reencoding: VID_00557 (9 of 16)
- [20:34:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,648 frames
- [20:34:26] Reencoding: VID_00557, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:35:50] Video Encode complete
- [20:35:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:35:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:35:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00547]
- [20:36:20] Reencoding: VID_00547 (10 of 16)
- [20:36:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,904 frames
- [20:36:20] Reencoding: VID_00547, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:38:41] Video Encode complete
- [20:38:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:38:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:38:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00546]
- [20:39:17] Reencoding: VID_00546 (11 of 16)
- [20:39:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,480 frames
- [20:39:17] Reencoding: VID_00546, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:41:50] Video Encode complete
- [20:41:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:41:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:42:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00548]
- [20:42:43] Reencoding: VID_00548 (12 of 16)
- [20:42:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,256 frames
- [20:42:43] Reencoding: VID_00548, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:46:59] Video Encode complete
- [20:46:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:46:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:47:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00551]
- [20:48:02] Reencoding: VID_00551 (13 of 16)
- [20:48:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,952 frames
- [20:48:03] Reencoding: VID_00551, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:52:36] Video Encode complete
- [20:52:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:52:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:52:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00550]
- [20:53:51] Reencoding: VID_00550 (14 of 16)
- [20:53:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 15,072 frames
- [20:53:51] Reencoding: VID_00550, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:59:57] Video Encode complete
- [20:59:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:59:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:00:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00549]
- [21:03:10] Reencoding: VID_00549 (15 of 16)
- [21:03:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 43,392 frames
- [21:03:11] Reencoding: VID_00549, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:21:08] Video Encode complete
- [21:21:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:21:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:22:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [21:43:10] Reencoding: VID_00001 (16 of 16)
- [21:43:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 187,944 frames
- Bitrate: 12,319 Kbs
- [21:43:10] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:55:16] Video Encode complete
- [23:55:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:55:16] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:04:05]PHASE ONE complete
[00:04:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:04:05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00:04:12] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:04:12] BURNING BD structure to disc
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[00:52:31]JOB: NEW_MOON finished.

Nerz
22nd March 2010, 08:06
Are the any system requirements for re-encoding? not necessarily for the time it takes to complete, but for success? I noticed someone stated they had a amd 64 3000+ processor. Which is what I'm trying on. I'm just wondering if this could be the problem, before I do a complete restore which might change remove any settings that might be causing any failures with my system

nurbs
22nd March 2010, 12:22
No minimum requirements. You could encode on a pentium II if you didn't mind waiting a couple of weeks for the encode to finish. IIRC the CPU needs MMX for x264 to work, but nothing more apart form that.

Dark Shikari
22nd March 2010, 12:24
No minimum requirements. You could encode on a pentium II if you didn't mind waiting a couple of weeks for the encode to finish. IIRC the CPU needs MMX for x264 to work, but nothing more apart form that.Pentium 3 or later (for Intel) or Athlon XP or later (for AMD), actually. We upped the default requirement to SSE a while back and nobody seems to have noticed, so I doubt anyone is still using older chips ;)

Jagaer
22nd March 2010, 15:46
Pentium 3 or later (for Intel) or Athlon XP or later (for AMD), actually. We upped the default requirement to SSE a while back and nobody seems to have noticed, so I doubt anyone is still using older chips ;)

Not certain if you mean the x264 distributed with BDRB or source hardware requirements, but I may have noticed...http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1384631#post1384631

Capsbackup
22nd March 2010, 16:29
I have now experienced, on three different full movie backups to BD9, on both software players and my Sony S360, that after the movie completes and returns to the main menu, the menu backround/picture is only a black screen while the selectable buttons are visible. Everything works properly, and when the disc is first inserted and starts, the proper main menu is displayed. Only after the conclusion of the movie and the return to the main menu is this black screen with only the button selections present. :confused:

jdobbs
22nd March 2010, 16:34
I have now experienced, on three different full movie backups to BD9, on both software players and my Sony S360, that after the movie completes and returns to the main menu, the menu backround/picture is only a black screen while the selectable buttons are visible. Everything works properly, and when the disc is first inserted and starts, the proper main menu is displayed. Only after the conclusion of the movie and the return to the main menu is this black screen with only the button selections present. :confused: I'll look at it. Can you give me an example disc and settings? Also -- is it a java supported disc (are the JAR files)?

jdobbs
22nd March 2010, 16:37
Not certain if you mean the x264 distributed with BDRB or source hardware requirements, but I may have noticed...http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1384631#post1384631I think in the link you referenced the command is "quiting almost immediately" because the command line is trying to do a second pass -- and there is no .stats file. You'd have to go back and reattempt the first pass in order to find out what was really the issue. One recommendation in that circumstance would be to change "--pass 2" to "--pass 1" on the command line and see what happens. Historically BD-RB reported X264 issues have almost always been linked back to CODEC problems rather than X264 itself.

Dark Shikari's comments would always apply to the version included with BD-RB... I think that if you went back to one of the processors that aren't supported you'd probably still be waiting for your first blu-ray backup to complete.

deank
22nd March 2010, 17:57
Pentium 3 or later (for Intel) or Athlon XP or later (for AMD), actually. We upped the default requirement to SSE a while back and nobody seems to have noticed, so I doubt anyone is still using older chips ;)

I noticed that, because I was using a really old Celeron machine with 128MB RAM for tests and at one point x264 refused to work with ASM-something message. I asked one of the guys who put 20 patched builds per day to compile one without the new-requirement... He never answered back. Then the power-box of that old PC blew-up :)... Fate.

Dean

brogan
22nd March 2010, 20:22
I always follow instructions and yes, i learned to read at school. Appreciate your concerns but condescendence will not fix my bug. Maybe let me feel a little bit more guilty of asking for help but definitly not fixing my problem.

Meanwhile, if you understood my problem was fixed it is not - even with the keys correctly setted as posted, it is still not working... I posted a log just above that shows that and i am re-posting it here:


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[16:36:10] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: THE_MUMMY
- Input BD size: 29,42 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:53.235]
- Target BD size: 23,93 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:36:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:36:12] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [16:36:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 179*658 frames
- Bitrate: 19*550 Kbs
- [16:36:12] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting. <- Observe that there is no complain anymore about VC-1 or MPEG2 not being correctly setted up for FFDSHOW
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[16:36:13] - Failed video encode, aborted

---------------------------------------------

BD-RB is probably doing its job but the codec seems to be innaccessible. Why can it BD-RB access AVC or H264, but not VC1 ? Answering that question would probably fix the problem.
I'll probably have to re-install Windows 7 (again) ... Expecting things won't stop working at the first new program install.

Maybe one solution would be to include the VC-1 codec somewhere in next BD-RB package (under 'Tools' folder like the other utilities) and if it doesn't infringe any copywright so it doesn't have to rely on so flakey / obscure registry things.

My point: One cannot stop using his machine fearing that the next program he installs will comprmise what is already working. A computer generally runs more than one program everyone will agree.

Hey Philippe,

Did you ever get this sorted? I'm having the exact same problem right after a clean install of Windows 7 Ultimate x64...

Capsbackup
23rd March 2010, 02:08
I'll look at it. Can you give me an example disc and settings? Also -- is it a java supported disc (are the JAR files)?

Two of the movies are Precious and New Moon.
Settings are High Quality (Default), full backup, BD 9, and no boxes checked in Setup.
Both titles are java supported too.

Brian5970
23rd March 2010, 05:15
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[23:49:33] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: BEYONDREASONABLEDOUBT
- Input BD size: 18.55 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:45:33.744]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[23:49:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:49:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [00:09:35] Reencoding: VID_00003 (1 of 1)
- [00:09:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 151,858 frames
- Bitrate: 4,525 Kbs
- [00:09:35] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[00:09:45] - Failed video encode, aborted


ok, here's the thing.. I backed up 'Law Abiding Citizen' (which is AVC/Mpeg4) and it worked BEAUTIFULLY. But I am still having an issue with the VC-1 codec and I re-installed the ffdshow AND Avi- synth.. Going to re-install the Matroska now. But, I really do think there is something amiss here...

Brian5970
23rd March 2010, 05:44
ok! sorry guys...it was the matroska installation! Go back to JDobbs original version and try that.. worked for me..

setarip_old
23rd March 2010, 06:50
@Capsbackup

Hi!

on both software players and my Sony S360...Only after the conclusion of the movie and the return to the main menu is this black screen with only the button selections present...Two of the movies are Precious and New Moon.

I just wanted to let you know that I too made a FULL disc BD-9 of "Precious", but it doesn't display the behavior you described. Upon completion of the movie, the full menu screen appears, with all background intact (and, of course, active buttons).

I used the recently added "Full disc (decrypted) BluRay backup" capability of "MakeMKV" for the initial copy/backup/"rip"...

Capsbackup
23rd March 2010, 15:46
@setarip_old;
Though I would not think this would be rip related, and I used Anydvd hd, it may be an isolated occurrence. The original rip and my full backup to BD-25 did not display this same behavior though.
I have only recently been trying full backups to BD5/9 media, since my previous attempts, back in the BD-RB beginning, were not very successful.
Thanks.

@jdobbs;
Just curious if the apparent non-working main audio and subtitles on Universal titles doing a full backup to BD5/9 media is affecting you too during playback on your Sony S360?

jdobbs
23rd March 2010, 15:50
@setarip_old;
Though I would not think this would be rip related, and I used Anydvd hd, it may be an isolated occurrence. The original rip and my full backup to BD-25 did not display this same behavior though.
I have only recently been trying full backups to BD5/9 media, since my previous attempts, back in the BD-RB beginning, were not very successful.
Thanks.

@jdobbs;
Just curious if the apparent non-working main audio and subtitles on Universal titles doing a full backup to BD5/9 media is affecting you too during playback on your Sony S360? I do most of my full backups to BD-25 now, so I might have missed something. I'm doing a bd-9 backup of "Precious" right now. I'll let you know how it looks when it finishes.

brogan
23rd March 2010, 15:59
ok! sorry guys...it was the matroska installation! Go back to JDobbs original version and try that.. worked for me..

Good to know, Brian...I've uninstalled & re-installed w/no luck...also, re-downloaded the files from the 1st page & tried to install them (again) w/no luck...as far as VC-1 encoded BD goes, I'm dead in the water right now...very strange, I didn't have these problems when I was using Windows 7 RC only after I upgraded to the full featured version...

Capsbackup
23rd March 2010, 17:10
I do most of my full backups to BD-25 now, so I might have missed something. I'm doing a bd-9 backup of "Precious" right now. I'll let you know how it looks when it finishes.

Thanks for checking this one out. Perhaps I will reconsider BD9 full movie backups and do them to BD-25 too.
( I must have two to three copies of many titles just from testing anyway.:p )

Side note: Have you tried Couples Retreat to full backup to BD5/9 media?
My test, though worked perfectly on my PC, would not play the audio nor would the subtitles display while playing back on my Sony S360.
This is a Universal title, which seems to have not been one I have luck with when backed up to BD5/9 media.
BD-25 full movie backups, for these same titles, work perfectly!

jdobbs
23rd March 2010, 17:23
Thanks for checking this one out. Perhaps I will reconsider BD9 full movie backups and do them to BD-25 too.
( I must have two to three copies of many titles just from testing anyway.:p )

Side note: Have you tried Couples Retreat to full backup to BD5/9 media?
My test, though worked perfectly on my PC, would not play the audio nor would the subtitles display while playing back on my Sony S360.
This is a Universal title, which seems to have not been one I have luck with when backed up to BD5/9 media.
BD-25 full movie backups, for these same titles, work perfectly! I'm pretty sure there is a bug of some kind in the Sony players related to BD-5/9 audio on some Universal full backups. If you write that exact same BD-5/9 image to a BD-RE I'll bet it will playback fine.

Capsbackup
23rd March 2010, 18:46
I'm pretty sure there is a bug of some kind in the Sony players related to BD-5/9 audio on some Universal full backups. If you write that exact same BD-5/9 image to a BD-RE I'll bet it will playback fine.

Yes, correct. I have tried this too.
OK, thanks for the confirmation.
I guess I will keep Universal titles on BD-25 media for backups. :)

Capsbackup
23rd March 2010, 21:25
@jdobbs;
On a BD9 full movie backup of New Moon, the issue of the menu only displaying the buttons and not the menu backround picture after conclusion of the main movie, appears to be the "looping" menu not working properly.
There are two .m2ts files associated with the main menu, 00000.m2ts and 00042.mt2s, of which 00042.m2ts plays first and only once, while 00000.m2ts plays after the conclusion of 00042.m2ts and is the looping .m2ts.
However, when the disc starts, after the first (.00042.m2ts) file plays, the menu video freezes/stops playing. At this point, the buttons are still selectable.
This freeze only happens when first playing the disc and not selecting a button before the menu loop, which is 57 seconds for this movie menu.
If you select play the movie, then when the movie finishes, it returns to the other menu video file, 00000.m2ts ( the looping one ) But it will not play, so only the button highlights are displayed and no backround video/picture is present.
I hope this makes sense. :confused: I will check the movie Precious to see if this may also be what happened on this movie.

EDIT:
Though Precious does have a similar menu structure, two different .m2ts files for the looping menu, this is not the cause for this movie.
However, the results are similar, that is after the movie plays, and on return to the main menu, only the button highlights are visible, no menu picture.
The BD-25 version does not display this same behavior. Oh well! :confused:

Nerz
23rd March 2010, 23:28
Have you installed any CODEC packs? If so, uninstall them.

Ok.So I have done a complete restore on my computer, starting it from scratch hoping this would remove and codecs or other settings/programs that may be causing interference. I have installed all software from first post and I'm still having the same problem. After extracting the first m2ts file, windows encounters an error x264 needs to be closed. I have settings for vc-1 disabled under fddshow after downloading W Media Player 11. When that didn't work I even tried setting to wmv-9 just to see if I could get past that particular point.

[14:30:52] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: LAW_ABIDING_CITIZEN
- Input BD size: 34.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:38:28.298]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:30:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:30:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00052]
- [14:31:05] Reencoding: VID_00052 (1 of 14)
- [14:31:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,950 frames
- [14:31:05] Reencoding: VID_00052, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- FFDSHOW: VC-1 not set to wmv9
[14:31:18] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[14:31:43] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: LAW_ABIDING_CITIZEN
- Input BD size: 34.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:38:28.298]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:31:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:31:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00052]
- [14:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00052 (1 of 14)
- [14:31:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,950 frames
- [14:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00052, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[14:32:11] - Failed video encode, aborted

First log is of course with fddshow vc-1 disabled and 2nd is with it set to wmv-9

Capsbackup
24th March 2010, 00:23
@Nerz;
I hear and feel your pain! :p
A complete restore does not necessarily remove any codecs. A reformat will though.
It should not be as difficult for your setup though, especially since you are using Windows XP. There must be some codec at fault. Look in your add/remove programs for any suspect ones.
What other software is installed on your system?
Could any firewall or antivirus program be preventing you from getting started?
Can you open an .avs script with MPC using directshowsource?
ex : DirectshowSource("D:\YOUR_SOURCE\YOUR_FILE\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=10000, audio=false)
Hang in there, you'll find the problem!:cool:

Nerz
24th March 2010, 00:48
well the restore did a format of the hd. I'm gonna check and see if any of the pre-installed software could be causing the problem.

jdobbs
24th March 2010, 00:53
Ok.So I have done a complete restore on my computer, starting it from scratch hoping this would remove and codecs or other settings/programs that may be causing interference. I have installed all software from first post and I'm still having the same problem. After extracting the first m2ts file, windows encounters an error x264 needs to be closed. I have settings for vc-1 disabled under fddshow after downloading W Media Player 11. When that didn't work I even tried setting to wmv-9 just to see if I could get past that particular point.

[14:30:52] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: LAW_ABIDING_CITIZEN
- Input BD size: 34.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:38:28.298]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:30:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:30:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00052]
- [14:31:05] Reencoding: VID_00052 (1 of 14)
- [14:31:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,950 frames
- [14:31:05] Reencoding: VID_00052, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- FFDSHOW: VC-1 not set to wmv9
[14:31:18] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[14:31:43] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: LAW_ABIDING_CITIZEN
- Input BD size: 34.20 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:38:28.298]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:31:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:31:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00052]
- [14:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00052 (1 of 14)
- [14:31:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,950 frames
- [14:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00052, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
[14:32:11] - Failed video encode, aborted

First log is of course with fddshow vc-1 disabled and 2nd is with it set to wmv-9Please download this file (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/inspect.exe) and place it in the BD-RB directory... then run it. It should show your current settings, and do some checking. Cut and paste the results in this thread.

@brogan

Please try the same.

Thanks.

brogan
24th March 2010, 01:30
Please download this file (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/inspect.exe) and place it in the BD-RB directory... then run it. It should show your current settings, and do some checking. Cut and paste the results in this thread.

@brogan

Please try the same.

Thanks.

jdobbs,



Here you go:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- More info available if run from BD-RB folder

I'm using the version Haali from the 1st post. I uninstalled, re-downloaded for the 3rd time, re-installed & it still says I'm using the wrong version. Can you please confirm that the version from that link is the one I should be using? Also, I'm running that inspect.exe from the unzipped BD-RB folder even though it says that message at the end. Thanks for the help..

Capsbackup
24th March 2010, 01:55
Interesting tool jdobbs!
I am able to backup all types codecs with no problems, so out of curiosity, I ran your inspect tool, and here is my results:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3026, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- More info available if run from BD-RB folder

I apparently have an older ffdshow installed, never upgraded.
I have VC-1 set to disabled with WMP11 installed.
I have MPEG2 set to libmpeg2
Since everything works for me, and I have not changed anything for many, many months on this OS, I will be leaving it as is! :cool:

Nerz
24th March 2010, 03:37
Here's the settings log:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- More info available if run from BD-RB folder

VC-1 disabled of course because i'm on xp with wmp11. however, even if set to wmv9 it won't work :(

jdobbs
24th March 2010, 06:26
Copy it to the BD-RB folder and run it from there. If it doesn't know its there -- that's probably a problem, as it can't find the tools.. I just ran it from a fresh install of the zip mine an it worked. Are you expanding the entire zip? You need to.

Nerz
24th March 2010, 09:10
Copy it to the BD-RB folder and run it from there. If it doesn't know its there -- that's probably a problem, as it can't find the tools.. I just ran it from a fresh install of the zip mine an it worked. Are you expanding the entire zip? You need to.

I assume you mean copy the inspect.exe to the BD-RB folder. Thats what I did. After I ran the inspect.exe the text form on the program posted the log I posted earlier...

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- More info available if run from BD-RB folder.

Not exactly sure why its stating "- More info available if run from BD-RB folder". The program is unzipped and run in the folder that the inspect.exe is currently in.Is the directory supposed to be named something specific? Right now it is in C:\BD-RBV03208\BD_Rebuilder\

deank
24th March 2010, 12:37
Interesting tool jdobbs!
I am able to backup all types codecs with no problems, so out of curiosity, I ran your inspect tool, and here is my results:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3026, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok

I apparently have an older ffdshow installed, never upgraded.

Since everything works for me, and I have not changed anything for many, many months on this OS, I will be leaving it as is!

- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 2661, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok

I'm quite behind you with the ffdshow and never upgraded it for year and a half (or more)... Still everything works and I never had troubles with any video codec (vc-1/mpeg-2/avc), so bd-rebuilder always worked fine since the 1st version.

jdobbs
24th March 2010, 13:18
I assume you mean copy the inspect.exe to the BD-RB folder. Thats what I did. After I ran the inspect.exe the text form on the program posted the log I posted earlier...

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- More info available if run from BD-RB folder.

Not exactly sure why its stating "- More info available if run from BD-RB folder". The program is unzipped and run in the folder that the inspect.exe is currently in.Is the directory supposed to be named something specific? Right now it is in C:\BD-RBV03208\BD_Rebuilder\Wierd. Here's what I get when I run it.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.32.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Oh... I got it now. I'd used a fixed path in my code for testing and never changed it back. I just replaced the "inspect.exe" file on the download. Note: The MP4BOX/FAAC is actually related to the next release.

jdobbs
24th March 2010, 13:26
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 2661, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok

I'm quite behind you with the ffdshow and never upgraded it for year and a half (or more)... Still everything works and I never had troubles with any video codec (vc-1/mpeg-2/avc), so bd-rebuilder always worked fine since the 1st version.

Yeah, no real reason to upgrade if it works. :) The problems usually start when people upgrade for no reason -- and there are new bugs introduced. Like they say -- if it works, don't fix it.

brogan
24th March 2010, 13:38
jdobbs,

Finally figured out which version of HAALI to use. The one in the link on the 1st page didn't work for me. I kept downloading different versions (installing, then checking, uninstalling & starting again) until one was given the "OK" by the inspect.exe...I downloaded the 1-19-2009 version (I believe, not at my home PC at the moment) & that one worked for me. Attempted to rebuild a VC-1 encoded BD50 down to a BD25 & it worked perfectly, as it's done in the past. Thanks for the help, very much appreciated. I'm back in business :)

jdobbs
24th March 2010, 13:48
jdobbs,

Finally figured out which version of HAALI to use. The one in the link on the 1st page didn't work for me. I kept downloading different versions (installing, then checking, uninstalling & starting again) until one was given the "OK" by the inspect.exe...I downloaded the 1-19-2009 version (I believe, not at my home PC at the moment) & that one worked for me. Attempted to rebuild a VC-1 encoded BD50 down to a BD25 & it worked perfectly, as it's done in the past. Thanks for the help, very much appreciated. I'm back in business :) Hmmm... I've updated the one in the first post to sure its ok. The one I'm using is 1.9.42.1.

Race Guy
24th March 2010, 17:00
jdobbs, here's an interesting Win7 "quirk" I've found that I'm surprised hasn't been posted here yet. It applies to both 32 & 64 bit versions.

On a default Win7 install "sleep" after 30 minutes is set in the power options. Vista installs with the same sleep setting too. I've just built 2 quad core 'puters, one an Intel & one an AMD, Win7/64 & Win7/32 respectively.

You would think that with x264 running all 4 cores maxed out, "sleep" would not be possible. But sure enough, you get a 4+ hour encode going & come back 35 minutes later & the 'puter will be asleep!

When you wake it up, the encode picks up where it left off like nothing happened. At first, I thought it was having the encoder set to "Idle Priority", so I switched it to "Normal" & that didn't help. Then I tried "Show Encoder=1" in the .ini file & that didn't help either.

I like sleep. Sleep is GOOD! But for some reason, BD-RB is "invisible" to Win7 while it's running. In Vista, the sleep functions normally. BD-RB finishes it's run, no matter how long it takes & then it sleeps. Same thing on a WinXP rig set to "hibernate". No hibernate till the BD-RB run is finished.

Is there anything you can do to make Win7 "find out" BD-RB is "in process" & to NOT start the sleep timer?

See ya!

turbojet
24th March 2010, 17:32
While it doesn't directly affect BD-RB (unless jdobbs checks for avisynth64 if it exists point to 64 bit x264 and includes 2 64 bit dlls) the HMS in the first post doesn't split truehd or lpcm and has no 64 bit splitter. This one (last public beta before final release) (http://www.mediafire.com/?yy5nimzdwed) does have all those things, still has the shell extension and still decodes VC-1.

Nerz
24th March 2010, 19:14
Wierd. Here's what I get when I run it.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.32.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Oh... I got it now. I'd used a fixed path in my code for testing and never changed it back. I just replaced the "inspect.exe" file on the download. Note: The MP4BOX/FAAC is actually related to the next release.

Here is my inspect.exe log...

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.32.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Real annoying because if it didnt say all ok, at least I'd know where my problem is. Just my luck

Jagaer
24th March 2010, 20:07
I think in the link you referenced the command is "quiting almost immediately" because the command line is trying to do a second pass -- and there is no .stats file. You'd have to go back and reattempt the first pass in order to find out what was really the issue. One recommendation in that circumstance would be to change "--pass 2" to "--pass 1" on the command line and see what happens. Historically BD-RB reported X264 issues have almost always been linked back to CODEC problems rather than X264 itself..

The issue is with the x264 program distributed with BDRB and my VM.
I am fairly certain it is not a codec issue as the preview option works, and when the x264.exe was exchanged with the one attached, it worked (and is still working)
I didn't mean that x264 code doesn't support the processor, but the flags used with the compiler generating the executable. (icc with sse4.1 sse4.2)

This is not a BDRB issue, I am just pointing it out for anyone else that has the same issue (again, not certain it is because of the age of the processor in the system, because it is working in a VM or a combination of the CODEC, hardware and VM)

The file I used is the NAL-HRD patched x264 from here: http://x264.fushizen.eu/?tag=x264

laserfan
24th March 2010, 20:46
Here is my inspect.exe log...

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.32.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Real annoying because if it didnt say all ok, at least I'd know where my problem is. Just my luckBut it does Not say "all ok" does it!? And your problem was/is with VC-1!?

Nerz
24th March 2010, 20:53
But it does Not say "all ok" does it!? And your problem was/is with VC-1!?

No, i'm using xp with wmv11, which the first post says needs to be set to disabled. Even if i change the settings in fddshow for vc-1, the results are the same

Capsbackup
24th March 2010, 21:58
@Nerz;
Can you open an .avs script with MPC using directshowsource on this VC-1 title?

jdobbs
24th March 2010, 22:44
The issue is with the x264 program distributed with BDRB and my VM.
I am fairly certain it is not a codec issue as the preview option works, and when the x264.exe was exchanged with the one attached, it worked (and is still working)
I didn't mean that x264 code doesn't support the processor, but the flags used with the compiler generating the executable. (icc with sse4.1 sse4.2)

This is not a BDRB issue, I am just pointing it out for anyone else that has the same issue (again, not certain it is because of the age of the processor in the system, because it is working in a VM or a combination of the CODEC, hardware and VM)

The file I used is the NAL-HRD patched x264 from here: http://x264.fushizen.eu/?tag=x264 The X264.EXE included with BD-RB isn't an icc compile -- it's gcc. That should work with any reasonably recent processor. I'm not sure what impact running on a VM might have... but I wouldn't have thought it would stop an gcc compile from executing. Can't say for certain.

Sharc
24th March 2010, 22:59
Just wondering, I have Haali 1.9.42.1 on my system and it works without problems with DB-RB. Inspect.exe however reports it as "isn't recommended version". I thought 1.9.42.1 is the one we should be using.....

jdobbs
25th March 2010, 00:38
Just wondering, I have Haali 1.9.42.1 on my system and it works without problems with DB-RB. Inspect.exe however reports it as "isn't recommended version". I thought 1.9.42.1 is the one we should be using..... That's the correct version. Since the HAALI files don't have version number embedded in them, INSPECT.EXE does a checksum of the HAALI program directory against what should be there from a clean install. If (for some reason) something has been added or removed from that directory you could get something other than "Ok" -- I can't think of a reason why anyone would do that though.

steveg32
25th March 2010, 07:22
No, i'm using xp with wmv11, which the first post says needs to be set to disabled. Even if i change the settings in fddshow for vc-1, the results are the same

You may have a corrupt wmp11 (it happens). Try this. Download and reinstall Windows Media Format 11 Runtime.

Go here and click the "Download [ Windows Media Format 11 Runtime ]" link:

http://www.free-codecs.com/Windows_Media_Format_11_download.htm

Hope this helps. It can't hurt. It worked for me. Good luck!

Adub
25th March 2010, 20:55
That's the correct version. Since the HAALI files don't have version number embedded in them, INSPECT.EXE does a checksum of the HAALI program directory against what should be there from a clean install. If (for some reason) something has been added or removed from that directory you could get something other than "Ok" -- I can't think of a reason why anyone would do that though.

I can think of one. With Haali's splitter comes bundled an Avisynth filter called 'avss.dll' that enables the famous "DSS2()" source plugin. What may have happened is that the user drag-and-dropped the avss.dll file into his/her plugins folder and didn't copy it.

ftb32
26th March 2010, 04:44
Hi here is my inspect.exe log:
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.32.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

coldhammer
26th March 2010, 05:04
I am having an issue with every movie i use BD Rebuilder on. I have used custom target size, bd 25 size and also set custom size to larger than the original blue ray. I rip the movie with either anydvd or makemkv. i then run bd rebuilder on the movie to shrink down the size. I am using all of the appropiate versions of files suggested and settings are:

custom target size
one pass cbr
highest quality
keep truehd / dts
one subtitle track
movie only rip

this results in a new bd rebuilder structure. At this point i try to convert the files into an mkv using either makeMkv or tsmuxerGui or mkvMerge. In every case they all fail saying there is something wrong with the files that bd rebuilder is producing. this happens on both my vista and my two xp machines.

this is a break down of what i have tried:

BD > anydvd =blue ray files still play
BD > make mkv = blue ray files still play
BD > anyDVD > makeMKV = mkv file that plays
BD > makeMKV(straight rip to mkv) = mkv file that plays
BD > anydvd > bd rebuilder = blue ray files that play
BD > anydvd > bd rebuilder > makeMKV = make mkv fails saying files are corrupt
BD > makeMKV(decrypt and rip) > bd rebuilder > makeMKV = make mkv fails saying files are corrupt
BD > anyDVD/makeMKV > bd rebuilder > tsmuxer/mkvMerge = make mkv fails saying files are corrupt

every thing works fine up the point that i use bd rebuilder to compress and create a new blue ray movie. after that point everything fails trying to work with the resulting bd rebuilder files.

all the mkv conversion products fail right at the end of their conversion process.

I am completely stumped at this point. any help would be greatly appreciated.

Adub
26th March 2010, 07:44
Wait, wait, wait. Your are ripping to an MKV, then encoding with BD Rebuilder BACK to a BDMV structure, and then muxing to an MKV again? May I ask why? If you want to encode your Blu-ray to an MKV, there are plenty more tools out there specifically DESIGNED for Blu-ray to MKV conversion.

Ex: Ripbot, MeGUI, Blurip, HDConvertToX....etc etc.

BD Rebuilder is specifically designed to shrink Blu-rays. Aka Blu-ray -> Blu-ray.

If you want a guide on how to convert your Blu-ray's, I wrote one up for HDConvertToX a little while ago: http://adubvideo.net/how-to/how-to-backup-bluray-with-hdconverttox
It should work just fine for what you want.

setarip_old
26th March 2010, 10:19
Hi!

What you've posted doesn't really indicate any problem with BD Rebuilder-created BluRay "packages".

1) Have you PLAYED your BD Rebuilder created BluRay "packages"? If so, do they play properly?

2) If they do play properly, have you tried burning one to disc and then converting to .MKV?

3) Have you tried using (For a "movie-only" BluRay "package") a program other than BD Rebuilder, such as "multiAVCHD" or "AVCHDCoder" to see if the same behavior is exhibited?

coldhammer
26th March 2010, 18:24
Adub:

im not ripping to an mkv > bd rebuilder > mkv. i was just illustrating that a variety of approaches all work up to the point that i get the files rebuilt by bd rebuilder.

Typically i use anydvd to rip to hdd. then bd rebuilder to shrink down the file to around 20 gbs. then take the resulting files, run through makeMKV and turn it into a single mkv file with chapters, audio, subtitles and video.

i like bd rebuilder as it is a quick easy way of stripping the unwanted extras and re-compressing the video to a smaller size. I then turn it into an mkv because it further reduces the size by changing the container and creates a single file that is easily played in a variety of htpc software.

setarip_old:

1) i use xbmc for my front end. currently i can only play the m2ts file directly. which doesnt have chapter info etc. however it will play that file with audio and video correctly.

2) I have not tried burning the file to a disc then converting it. Why would putting the file on a disc first be different than converting straight from the hdd?

3) I have not tried any of the other blueRay package programs.

coldhammer
26th March 2010, 18:32
looked at your tutorial for hdconvertox. two questions.

1) does it support pass through of the original dts-ma / true hd stream?
2) are you saying that you need to mux in the subtitles after you run hdconvertox or does the program do it for you?

Sharc
26th March 2010, 18:40
That's the correct version. Since the HAALI files don't have version number embedded in them, INSPECT.EXE does a checksum of the HAALI program directory against what should be there from a clean install. If (for some reason) something has been added or removed from that directory you could get something other than "Ok" -- I can't think of a reason why anyone would do that though.
jdobbs, Adub:
All clear now, thanks: I added to the install directory the url of the matroska download page.

Adub
26th March 2010, 19:03
1) I believe if you set audio encoding to "copy audio" in the Audio tab, it should pass through the original HD audio. I have contacted the author via PM to confirm and will edit this post when I know for sure.

2) No, HDConvertToX should handle the subs for you. That's the whole reason for the Audio and Subs Selection tab.

Edit: Yep, using the 'Copy Audio' option in the encoding settings for your audio will allow for HD audio pass through. Just remember to uncheck the 'Keep only core' option in then 'Audio and Subs Selection' tab.

coldhammer
26th March 2010, 19:04
well if it can pass through the audio that would be a much simpler approach.

Adub
26th March 2010, 19:10
I think that's what it does via the "copy" method, but I'll get back to you on that when the author tells me. I'd test it myself, but I don't have any source files at work.

Edit: You may also like Blurip (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152294). It is specifically designed for the Blu-ray to MKV conversion process and supports audio passthrough ("Untouched audio" option) and sub muxing.

I haven't used it in full yet, so I don't have a guide for it quite yet, but I have heard good things, and it looks pretty self explanatory.

sidneysides
26th March 2010, 22:08
Sorry to repost this but I think maybe my post got lost in another conversation...
I am having a little trouble with the fluidity of some scenes. T

I reencoded a Jamiroquai live concert. The original was extremely smooth when panning around the stage. When I watched the reencoded version it was slightly and jerky and blurry during the same panning scenes. The picture itself was fine with regards to sharpness - pretty much the same as the original - it was just during movement. It was a little similar to the old days with CCE when you encoded with the wrong field first, although not anywhere near as bad - I'm just trying to describe it a bit better.

I noticed the same thing happening when I reencoded Monsters Inc, although this time it was during the scrolling on the menu.

I thought that reencoding would not affect the picture in this way, only perhaps slight blockiness or grain.

I tried the Jamiroquai concert full disc and movie only and got the same result - slight motion blur

jdobbs
27th March 2010, 04:23
I think that's what it does via the "copy" method, but I'll get back to you on that when the author tells me. I'd test it myself, but I don't have any source files at work.

Edit: You may also like Blurip (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152294). It is specifically designed for the Blu-ray to MKV conversion process and supports audio passthrough ("Untouched audio" option) and sub muxing.

I haven't used it in full yet, so I don't have a guide for it quite yet, but I have heard good things, and it looks pretty self explanatory. Don't want to sound rude... but this is a BD Rebuilder bug thread... let's try and keep on topic.

jdobbs
27th March 2010, 04:24
Sorry to repost this but I think maybe my post got lost in another conversation...
I am having a little trouble with the fluidity of some scenes. T

I reencoded a Jamiroquai live concert. The original was extremely smooth when panning around the stage. When I watched the reencoded version it was slightly and jerky and blurry during the same panning scenes. The picture itself was fine with regards to sharpness - pretty much the same as the original - it was just during movement. It was a little similar to the old days with CCE when you encoded with the wrong field first, although not anywhere near as bad - I'm just trying to describe it a bit better.

I noticed the same thing happening when I reencoded Monsters Inc, although this time it was during the scrolling on the menu.

I thought that reencoding would not affect the picture in this way, only perhaps slight blockiness or grain.

I tried the Jamiroquai concert full disc and movie only and got the same result - slight motion blur Was there a "*" or "**" in the streams list for the video in question?

coldhammer
27th March 2010, 04:38
so staying on track i still have the issue with all bd rebuilder bluray structures crashing mkv conversion apps.

sidneysides
27th March 2010, 04:49
Was there a "*" or "**" in the streams list for the video in question?

I don't have the original now so not sure - why, what would this indicate?

Adub
27th March 2010, 09:02
Don't want to sound rude... but this is a BD Rebuilder bug thread... let's try and keep on topic.

Ah, yes of course. My apologies. That conversation was probably best held via PM. Please ignore my indecency.

Continue on jdobbs! Just wanted to report that I made my first AVCHD backup completely flawlessly on my new Windows 7 32-bit install. Thanks for your wonderful program jdobbs!

drmih
27th March 2010, 12:50
I have just come across a problem doing The Last Emperor - Criterion to bd-9. Although the disc and HDD rip play fine, the bd-9 has a silent main audio track (the commentary is okay). I tried playing the actual m2ts steam on a pc and there is no audio. The original main audio was DTS-HD XLL stereo, where as the bd-9 says ac3 (in bd-rb). If I try and read the bd-9 stream into tsmuxer, it says 'unsupported format'. I'll just do the backup to bd-re which should work as it will be untouched, but for information.

john920
27th March 2010, 14:04
bd rebuilder 1200 CopyDirStructure() 00005 1200

I am trying to backup toy story 2 on a new win7 ultimate 2.7 quad core pc. Had some trouble configing the pc but waws ablr to get it working and made a successful backup of toy story. however i got this error after all the file prepping was complete before the final rebuild bd rebuilder 1200 CopyDirStructure() 00005 1200
I aborted. ran as administrator and tried again...
[08:47:01] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_2_USA
- Input BD size: 39.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:26:34.027]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[08:47:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
[08:47:03]PHASE ONE complete
[08:47:03]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:47:03] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [08:47:05] CopyDirStructure() 00005 1200
[08:47:19] - Aborted at user request

I am at a loss...

jdobbs
27th March 2010, 14:24
I don't have the original now so not sure - why, what would this indicate? Whether it uses pulldown and if it is VC-1 picture (field) based.

jdobbs
27th March 2010, 14:26
I have just come across a problem doing The Last Emperor - Criterion to bd-9. Although the disc and HDD rip play fine, the bd-9 has a silent main audio track (the commentary is okay). I tried playing the actual m2ts steam on a pc and there is no audio. The original main audio was DTS-HD XLL stereo, where as the bd-9 says ac3 (in bd-rb). If I try and read the bd-9 stream into tsmuxer, it says 'unsupported format'. I'll just do the backup to bd-re which should work as it will be untouched, but for information. Check and see if the .AC3 was created properly and plays (in the WORKFILES folder).

raul124
27th March 2010, 15:52
I have backed up roughly about 25 BD DVDs (movie only) with no problem or just minor hiccups but happy with the results. I have a Qs about the work files that BD Reb build in the folder, what exactly is this file use for? it's roughly twice as large to the BD backup. Can I deleted and still be able to play the backup with out any problems? or can I use it to burn another disc using imgburn without starting from scratch. Just a thought!!:confused:

BD-RB System Inspection
-Windows Version: 6.0(6002)
-AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0 OK
-HAALI Splitter: OK
-FFDSHOW: 3133. OK
-FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9": OK
-FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "Libavcodec": OK
-FFDSHOW AVC set to "Libavcodec": OK

Ch3vr0n
27th March 2010, 16:06
In the BDRB settings you can tick a box that sais "remove workfiles after rebuild". Tick that box and BDRB will auto delete them after the rebuild is complete. They are exactly what the name states. Files needed for the work in progress. BDRB uses those files to rebuild the disc to the size you've selected. The only folder that really matters is the one named after the disc in the main directory. It is that one that you burn (unless you have BDRB auto burn it to disc with IMGBurn), then that one can be deleted too after a burn.

Freddy68
27th March 2010, 17:16
I havent used bd rebuilder in a while. But when i tried recently, the process starts fine but around 50% of pass 1 encoding it makes my pc restart. what seems to be the problem? I never had any issues before, I'm running W7 quad core, 4000 MB of memory. Any advice is appreciated.

Adub
27th March 2010, 20:38
Have you been overclocking your system recently? If so, you may want to try running some stability tests to make sure your computer is actually stable.

This is not the fault of BD Rebuilder.

sidneysides
27th March 2010, 20:50
Whether it uses pulldown and if it is VC-1 picture (field) based.

I will get hold of the original again and have a look. What do I need to change if it is one of these then?

Mark_Venture
28th March 2010, 06:06
Wierd. Here's what I get when I run it.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.32.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Oh... I got it now. I'd used a fixed path in my code for testing and never changed it back. I just replaced the "inspect.exe" file on the download. Note: The MP4BOX/FAAC is actually related to the next release.Sorry, I'm late to this thread so I might have missed it, and I have to ask...

The first post of this thread talks about using "recommended versions" and for FFDSHOW links to an older version than inspect.exe apparently reports about your system. (3133 is linked in the first post, 3326 on your system per the above post)

Is FFDSHOW 3326 ok to use with BD Rebuilder 0.32.08 (March 8th, 2010)? or should we stick with the version linked in the first post?

Kampfwurstwasser
28th March 2010, 12:01
Sorry, I'm late to this thread so I might have missed it, and I have to ask...

The first post of this thread talks about using "recommended versions" and for FFDSHOW links to an older version than inspect.exe apparently reports about your system. (3133 is linked in the first post, 3326 on your system per the above post)

Is FFDSHOW 3326 ok to use with BD Rebuilder 0.32.08 (March 8th, 2010)? or should we stick with the version linked in the first post?

I would like to know this too, because FFDShow revision 3326 supports DXVA playback for h264, right?

woodman
28th March 2010, 12:50
I have just done 2 full backups of the incredible hulk, the first one with “quicker” encode for extras checked and that came out under size(movie about 8gb with the hd audio)and over size extras around 13gb, just like District 9 backup. The second one unchecked “quicker” encode for extras and that came out ok size wise, although it did take 50 hours to do. I would like to use “quicker” checked because of the time difference on encoding. The other problem I’m having is jerky video, on this movie and others, not sure what the cause is I’m getting no errors from BD rebuilder. Using 0.32.08

jdobbs
28th March 2010, 13:53
Sorry, I'm late to this thread so I might have missed it, and I have to ask...

The first post of this thread talks about using "recommended versions" and for FFDSHOW links to an older version than inspect.exe apparently reports about your system. (3133 is linked in the first post, 3326 on your system per the above post)

Is FFDSHOW 3326 ok to use with BD Rebuilder 0.32.08 (March 8th, 2010)? or should we stick with the version linked in the first post? That's the one I've been testing (and why it shows "Ok"). I've been running it for a couple of weeks with no issues. It's probably ok. I'd suggest you try it, and if you have no issues, report back. I'll probably update the first link soon if I don't see issues. If you do, please step back to 3133 and report that too.

jdobbs
28th March 2010, 13:55
I have just done 2 full backups of the incredible hulk, the first one with “quicker” encode for extras checked and that came out under size(movie about 8gb with the hd audio)and over size extras around 13gb, just like District 9 backup. The second one unchecked “quicker” encode for extras and that came out ok size wise, although it did take 50 hours to do. I would like to use “quicker” checked because of the time difference on encoding. The other problem I’m having is jerky video, on this movie and others, not sure what the cause is I’m getting no errors from BD rebuilder. Using 0.32.08 "Jerky video" on what playback device? If it's not a standalone player you are probably seeing issues with the playback, not the encode.

If it's taking 50 hours to encode, I'd suggest you move up to a modern processor... even in high quality mode a reasonably recent processor (two years old or so) should only take a quarter of that time (e.g. my Phenom 9500).

woodman
28th March 2010, 14:13
"Jerky video" on what playback device? If it's not a standalone player you are probably seeing issues with the playback, not the encode.

If it's taking 50 hours to encode, I'd suggest you move up to a modern processor... even in high quality mode a reasonably recent processor (two years old or so) should only take a quarter of that time (e.g. my Phenom 9500).

tested on standalone player. i have a dual core 2.50 proccessor

Mark_Venture
28th March 2010, 14:25
That's the one I've been testing (and why it shows "Ok"). I've been running it for a couple of weeks with no issues. It's probably ok. I'd suggest you try it, and if you have no issues, report back. I'll probably update the first link soon if I don't see issues. If you do, please step back to 3133 and report that too.
Ok, I'll give it a try... I plan on doing a backup of Toy Story (Movie only to DVD9) later today.. I'll post back how I make out, after it finishes and I get to watch the movie from the backup (probably tomorrow).

jdobbs
28th March 2010, 14:25
tested on standalone player. i have a dual core 2.50 proccessor You'll have to give me an example or description of what you're seeing. "Jerky" can mean lot of different things. I can't imagine why this would happen on one computer and one standalone player but not others...

1. Please post your results from running INSPECT.EXE.
2. What kind of video is the source (that is jerky)?
3. What disc is it? Is it an original?
4. Is it output to BD-5, BD-9, BD-25?
5. What encode quality settings?
6. Is it all encodes, or certain ones? Main feature or extras?

Looking back at your previous posts, you've been experiencing a lot of very odd problems... I have to believe you have some type of configuration issue.

woodman
28th March 2010, 14:55
You'll have to give me an example or description of what you're seeing. "Jerky" can mean lot of different things. I can't imagine why this would happen on one computer and one standalone player but not others...

1. Please post your results from running INSPECT.EXE.
2. What kind of video is the source (that is jerky)?
3. What disc is it? Is it an original?
4. Is it output to BD-5, BD-9, BD-25?
5. What encode quality settings?
6. Is it all encodes, or certain ones? Main feature or extras?

Looking back at your previous posts, you've been experiencing a lot of very odd problems... I have to believe you have some type of configuration issue.
thanks, will try that

deank
28th March 2010, 15:23
That's the one I've been testing (and why it shows "Ok"). I've been running it for a couple of weeks with no issues. It's probably ok. I'd suggest you try it, and if you have no issues, report back. I'll probably update the first link soon if I don't see issues. If you do, please step back to 3133 and report that too.

Since I'm tired of reports of failed encodes (just like you are I guess), sometime next week I'll try to post a link to a small tool I'm preparing. It includes H.264/AVC, MPEG-2 and VC-1 short samples and does a basic encoding of few seconds of video to check if user's PC is able to handle these codecs via directshow.

It will check avisynth presence, haali ability to split video and audio and x264 ability to encode video served by avisynth from directshow source with these video codecs.

I think it will make life much easier for both coders and users. :)

Dean

jdobbs
28th March 2010, 15:53
Since I'm tired of reports of failed encodes (just like you are I guess), sometime next week I'll try to post a link to a small tool I'm preparing. It includes H.264/AVC, MPEG-2 and VC-1 short samples and does a basic encoding of few seconds of video to check if user's PC is able to handle these codecs via directshow.

It will check avisynth presence, haali ability to split video and audio and x264 ability to encode video served by avisynth from directshow source with these video codecs.

I think it will make life much easier for both coders and users. :)

DeanGood idea.

jdobbs
28th March 2010, 16:10
Have you been overclocking your system recently? If so, you may want to try running some stability tests to make sure your computer is actually stable.

This is not the fault of BD Rebuilder.

I assume you're the same Adub that made the video here (http://adubvideo.net/videos/blu-ray-backup-with-bd-rebuilder)? Pretty cool.

shon3i
28th March 2010, 17:20
If someone not notice, x264 now have official Blu-Ray support. So if anyone can update to r1050 form www.x264.nl and test on player to see is everything work normaly

jdobbs
28th March 2010, 17:39
If someone not notice, x264 now have official Blu-Ray support. So if anyone can update to r1050 form www.x264.nl and test on player to see is everything work normalyI assume you mean r1510... I'm testing it now, looks good so far.

It may be my imagination -- but it seems to be a bit faster also.

saphire199
28th March 2010, 17:43
Hey, first of all, I really like the new "inspect" tool. Let's you know right away that you have all your basics in and provides a first debug for any problems.

And on that note, my inpect shows all ok and I am wondering if anyone else has run into this - I am trying out the feature to make an iso file with Imgburn after BDRB finishes, but I am finding it takes hours to complete. When I take the same file (the completed BDRB file) and make an iso seperately, it does it in about 5 minutes tops. I am making DVD9 discs mostly, movie only. Thanks

jdobbs
28th March 2010, 17:47
Hey, first of all, I really like the new "inspect" tool. Let's you know right away that you have all your basics in and provides a first debug for any problems.

And on that note, my inpect shows all ok and I am wondering if anyone else has run into this - I am trying out the feature to make an iso file with Imgburn after BDRB finishes, but I am finding it takes hours to complete. When I take the same file (the completed BDRB file) and make an iso seperately, it does it in about 5 minutes tops. I am making DVD9 discs mostly, movie only. ThanksHmmm... I'll do some testing -- but when I tested it right after implementing it, it took only a few minutes. Any chance your disc is getting close to full? That could make a huge difference.

Dark Shikari
28th March 2010, 18:17
I assume you mean r1510... I'm testing it now, looks good so far.

It may be my imagination -- but it seems to be a bit faster also.Not your imagination (http://git.videolan.org/?p=x264.git;a=commit;h=5b1fdfabb8e473aaa8ddc6389f3882ed9e4073ac) ;)

shon3i
28th March 2010, 18:30
I assume you mean r1510... I'm testing it now, looks good so far.

It may be my imagination -- but it seems to be a bit faster also.
Yes my mistake :P i mean r1510

btw i inspect commandlines you use, and saw that High Quality not use real High Quality option's that should and x264 can provide. I mean this can be very usefull for BD5/9. Why not just stick with x264 profiles, will be nice, with some tweaking like for example deblock.

Adub
28th March 2010, 19:04
Probably because sometimes x264's profiles are not Blu-ray / AVCHD compatible.

shon3i
28th March 2010, 19:12
Probably because sometimes x264's profiles are not Blu-ray / AVCHD compatible.
None of current x264 profiles are Blu-Ray/AVCHD compilant without special switches so

You can use all x264 presets for example

--preset placebo --tune film and after that overwrite all necessary options like

--level 4.1 --ref 4 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --vbv-maxrate 14745 --vbv-bufsize 14745 --slices 4 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --b-pyramid strict

which need to achieve BD/AVCHD compatibility

drmih
28th March 2010, 23:10
Check and see if the .AC3 was created properly and plays (in the WORKFILES folder).

As expected the bd-25 was fine but I've just tried the bd-9 again. There is the same issue. When I look in the Workfiles directory the first two m2ts files have a DTS-HD stereo main audio and ac3 secondary. The m2ts files play but the first audio is silent, the secondary plays. When the m2ts files are read into tsmuxer, they both report 'unsupported format'. For information, the two dts tracks in the Workfiles directory play okay.

Sharc
28th March 2010, 23:43
None of current x264 profiles are Blu-Ray/AVCHD compilant without special switches so

You can use all x264 presets for example

--preset placebo --tune film and after that overwrite all necessary options like

--level 4.1 --ref 4 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --vbv-maxrate 14745 --vbv-bufsize 14745 --slices 4 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --b-pyramid strict

which need to achieve BD/AVCHD compatibility
To be on the safe side for some players one may have to add --weightp 0 (http://git.videolan.org/gitweb.cgi?p=x264.git;a=commit;h=c6de86497cdd7b7f3cce7d8a95d723c7d0c9f505)

bole25
29th March 2010, 05:09
Hey, men. Can somebody tell me, what can I do, if I delete by mistake the folder CERTIFICATE from a BD movie?, because I am having problems with The Blind Side, I dont have this folder.

setarip_old
29th March 2010, 06:41
@bole25

Hi!if I delete by mistake the folder CERTIFICATE from a BD movie?, because I am having problems with The Blind Side, I dont have this folder.It'sd still on your original, commercial BluRay disc...

Discoboy
29th March 2010, 12:05
I assume you mean r1510... I'm testing it now, looks good so far.

It may be my imagination -- but it seems to be a bit faster also.

@jdobbs,

FYI I’ve tested V0.32.08 (beta) with JEEB’S 32bit x264 r1510 patched with the now official NAL-HRD on a movie only 2-pass project = OK Panasonic BD35 SAP playability

woodman
29th March 2010, 13:34
You'll have to give me an example or description of what you're seeing. "Jerky" can mean lot of different things. I can't imagine why this would happen on one computer and one standalone player but not others...

1. Please post your results from running INSPECT.EXE.
2. What kind of video is the source (that is jerky)?
3. What disc is it? Is it an original?
4. Is it output to BD-5, BD-9, BD-25?
5. What encode quality settings?
6. Is it all encodes, or certain ones? Main feature or extras?

Looking back at your previous posts, you've been experiencing a lot of very odd problems... I have to believe you have some type of configuration issue.

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.32.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

The jerky video is like Sidneysides post
2. The source video is on Verbatim BD-RE
3. Ripped with Anydvd HD from original disc
4. Output is BD-25
5. High quality settings
6. Main feature only, the extras play fine

bole25
29th March 2010, 13:56
@bole25

Hi!It'sd still on your original, commercial BluRay disc...

No, I do not. Download it with a friend but not around. He lives far away

Priapismic
29th March 2010, 14:01
@woodman, looks like the ffdshow setting for VC-1 is the problem. Set it to wmv9 and try again.

woodman
29th March 2010, 14:31
@woodman, looks like the ffdshow setting for VC-1 is the problem. Set it to wmv9 and try again.

thanks for helping.
i set the ffdshow as per instuctions

8. Recommended for Windows XP only: Download and install WMV11 from Microsoft, and set VC-1 decoding to "disabled" in FFDSHOW (allowing the WMV11 codec to be used). This seems to be the codec with the fewest problem on VC-1. For Vista or Windows 7 -- select "wmv9"

Warbucks81
29th March 2010, 18:31
Jdobbs, I was wondering how difficult it would be to implement some way to tell BD-RB to only encode up to a certain timecode. I prefer to cut the credits from my backups.

Mark_Venture
29th March 2010, 19:24
That's the one I've been testing (and why it shows "Ok"). I've been running it for a couple of weeks with no issues. It's probably ok. I'd suggest you try it, and if you have no issues, report back. I'll probably update the first link soon if I don't see issues. If you do, please step back to 3133 and report that too.Ok, so I took my working Windows XP system, with FFD 3133, and BD REbuilder v0.32.08, as well as the other versions of avisynth, etc linked in the first post that had been working just fine.

I went and upgraded only FFD Show to 3336.

First test... Toy Story Bluray to Movie Only BD-9. Encoder setting as Normal priority, High Quality (default).

It completed successfully, plays in my LG BD-390 and looks great.

The original is now safely in the cabinet, and my Son is happy because he can watch it whenever he wants :)

I'll be trying Toy Story 2 later tonight. I'll report back.

Nerz
29th March 2010, 22:46
Ok so I unfortanately still have not been able to find my problem. as a refresh my inspect.exe log is below. VC-1 disabled because of wmp-11 and xp. However does the same when set to wmv-9. After extracting the first m2ts file, windows encounters an error x264 needs to be closed. However I tried another program AVCHDecoder by twan, not sure if anyone is familiar with it. It is very similar to BD Rebuilder, it uses FDDShow, Haali splitter and AVISYNTH. I've actually been able to use it to backup Law Abiding Citizen seamlessly. Took almost 3 whole days but I kinda expected this due to having a AMD 64 3000+ processor. Just wondering what could be the difference, if anyone is familiar with the program, with the way BD Rebuilder uses x264.exe and this AVCHDecoder. Just wondering because there are some functions I like about BD Rebuilder, and just for the case of bug reporting because maybe someone else might be having the same problem?

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3133, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.32.0.8, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Zot
30th March 2010, 02:35
Hello,

I have an odd problem. I want to convert a 25fps MKV to play in my PS3. My source is a 13GB MKV file. TSMUXER GUI 1.10.6 reports it as 1920X1080i, 25fps, VC-1, Profile advanced 3. I demuxed the source, with TSMUXER, used eac3to to slowdown the audio. Then I took the resulting .vc1 video converted to a .ts file at 23.976 with TSMUXER. Finally I remuxed the video and audio as a BD disk.

If I burn the resulting BD files to a BD-R. My PS3 plays the video with the image compressed in the top 1/2 of the screen only. Audio is fine and in sync with the video. PLaying the same files on my PC shows normal, as is playing on an LG BD370 BD player.

I extracted a 1 minute segment from the original, re-encoded the video with BD REbuilder 0.32.08 to a DVD-5 with forced encode=1, and the resulting output plays on the PS3 fine. Running BD-Rebuilder with forced encode and setting the size to BD25 and the output is still 1/2 height on the PS3 but fine on the PC and the BD370.

THis one displays compressed:
-----------------------
[Status]
LABEL=E1_TESTING
VERSION=v0.32.08 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=192844432
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=192841728
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=126.149878184041
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=24326960496
RATE=30000
NSIZE=246233088
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[17:42:39] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: E1_TESTING
- Input BD size: 0.18 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:00:59.597]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:42:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:42:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:42:46] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:42:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,429 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [17:42:46] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:45:04] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:01:10] Video Encode complete
- [18:01:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:01:11] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:01:16]PHASE ONE complete
[18:01:16]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:01:16] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:01:17] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:01:17]JOB: E1_TESTING finished.

=================================================================================================
this one looks good:

[Status]
LABEL=E1_TESTING
VERSION=v0.32.08 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=192844432
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=192841728
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=23.7564031784656
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=4581225840
RATE=15000
NSIZE=129404928
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

-----------------------
[18:11:19] BD Rebuilder v0.32.08 (beta)
- Source: E1_TESTING
- Input BD size: 0.18 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:00:59.597]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:11:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:11:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [18:11:25] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [18:11:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,429 frames
- Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
- [18:11:26] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:13:42] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:25:34] Video Encode complete
- [18:25:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:25:34] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:25:37]PHASE ONE complete
[18:25:37]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:25:37] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:25:37] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:25:37]JOB: E1_TESTING finished.


The only difference is that with output set to DVD-5 it looks good, with output set to bd-25 it's compressed.

I use IMGBURN 2.5.1.0 to burn the 'bd-25' output to a Panasonic BD-RE, and the 'dvd-5' output to a DVD-RW.

What would cause the PS3 to play this at 1/2 height? Other videos I've taken (.mkv's, BD's, etc) have never caused me problems, is it something unique to 1080i, 25fps converted > 23.976? My PS3 does not play 25fps source (the LG does without problems, but that's in a different room), so I need the 23.976 source. The odd part is that shrinking down works fine, but keeping it the same size (and with forced re-encode) doesn't.

Thanks for any suggestions! I apologize in advance as this is not strictly a BD REbuilder problem, altough the problem shows up under one configuration and goes away under a slight different setup.

BTW - BD Rebuilder is a GREAT program - many thanks for all the work on this. I have backed up dozens of BD's and MKV's without issue, but this one is puzzling!

Zot

new info: Since this was a 1 minute extract, I tried both outputs written to a BD-RE and they look compressed. Both outputs written to a DVD-RW look good. So how would the different disk structures affect the the way the output is displayed?

Capsbackup
30th March 2010, 03:51
Ok so I unfortanately still have not been able to find my problem.

Can you play any of the .m2ts files within the stream folders of a BluRay rip with Media Player Classic?
Can you create an Avisynth script of one of these .m2ts files, using Directshowsource, and can you play that .avs file with MPC?

Nerz
30th March 2010, 04:09
Can you play any of the .m2ts files within the stream folders of a BluRay rip with Media Player Classic?
Can you create an Avisynth script of one of these .m2ts files, using Directshowsource, and can you play that .avs file with MPC?

I'm assuming you mean viewing .m2ts directly after ripping with AnyDVD because Bd rebuilder will not encode. I can view these fine. Not exactly sure about how to others being that I've never tried. I'll have to research.

gerald410
30th March 2010, 04:14
@jdobbs,

FYI I’ve tested V0.32.08 (beta) with JEEB’S 32bit x264 r1510 patched with the now official NAL-HRD on a movie only 2-pass project = OK Panasonic BD35 SAP playability

I've successfully made 2 movie-only backup's using JEEB’S 32bit x264 r1510 patched with the now official NAL-HRD and FFDshow 3326 just an fyi.

Capsbackup
30th March 2010, 06:36
I'm assuming you mean viewing .m2ts directly after ripping with AnyDVD because Bd rebuilder will not encode. I can view these fine. Not exactly sure about how to others being that I've never tried. I'll have to research.

If you create an Avisynth script of one of your .m2ts files using Directshowsource, just like BD-RB would if it were to reencode it, and just right click that .avs file and select play with MPC to see if it will play. Try this for a VC-1 .m2ts file.
If it wont play, what does the error message say.

saphire199
30th March 2010, 10:41
Hmmm... I'll do some testing -- but when I tested it right after implementing it, it took only a few minutes. Any chance your disc is getting close to full? That could make a huge difference.

No, all my drives for Blu-ray are 1tb or more, I clean them and defrag regularly. I am going to recheck all settings and try again and will report back.

colinhunt
30th March 2010, 21:56
I'm really looking forward to testing BD-RB with a newer FFDshow and the latest x264 with NAL-HRD. I'll be checking the first post daily :)

gerald410
30th March 2010, 22:42
I'm really looking forward to testing BD-RB with a newer FFDshow and the latest x264 with NAL-HRD. I'll be checking the first post daily :)

I just finished my 3rd movie only backup using the latest FFDshow and Jeeb's x264 with NAL-HRD. will have to wait till I get home to see the results. The first 2 were fine.

Adub
30th March 2010, 23:30
I assume you're the same Adub that made the video here (http://adubvideo.net/videos/blu-ray-backup-with-bd-rebuilder)? Pretty cool.

Ah! Sorry I was so late to respond. Didn't see your post.

Yes, that's me! I'm slowly accumulating all of my knowledge into one place.

Capsbackup
31st March 2010, 01:46
I have just had another full backup to BD9 that will not play the main audio track, a DD 5.1 640kbps AC3, nor can the subtitles be selected nor are they displayed.
The title is Twilight, and though the movie works fine when playing back on PowerDVD 7.3 and TMT3, including all audio and subtitles, it does not play the audio on either of my Sony's, S360 or BX1. :(
This is not a Universal title either!
Interesting that when playing back on the Sony S360, if I select display, it does not even show there is an audio track, only 1080P, 24fps.
It would be great if there were DVD+R DL RW discs available to test with!:cool:

DK
31st March 2010, 01:54
Did two movie only encodes with latest x264 r1510 and they run fine on a Samsung 1600 with strict AVCHD setting.

ftb32
31st March 2010, 04:30
Adub, great video, and tutorial..

colinhunt
31st March 2010, 19:47
I just finished my 3rd movie only backup using the latest FFDshow and Jeeb's x264 with NAL-HRD. will have to wait till I get home to see the results. The first 2 were fine.
Good to know... but I think I'll wait for jdobbs' official approval :)

gerald410
31st March 2010, 20:15
Good to know... but I think I'll wait for jdobbs' official approval :)

Nothing wrong with that approach:)

Skidmark
31st March 2010, 20:36
Up in the Air doesn't work properly for me. All the other movies I've done work fine. Same results with 32.05 and 32.08.

BD-RB shows that it completes properly, but when playing, everything after around the 53 min mark is a single picture frame. Frozen frame with 32.05 and 32.08 at the same point in the movie. Audio works perfectly throughout the entire video. When playing the video, dragging the slider to any point after the freeze point shows the same frame, and dragging it to before the 53 min mark makes the movie play properly. Any ideas?

setarip_old
31st March 2010, 21:30
@Skidmark

Hi!

Sounds like a bad "rip". Clean your original BluRay disc and try again...

Skidmark
31st March 2010, 22:03
@Skidmark

Hi!

Sounds like a bad "rip". Clean your original BluRay disc and try again...

Interesting thought - I still have the original source on my HDD and went back to the spot where it freezes on the recode...there's a tiny glitch right at that time where it looks like the pixels shift a tiny bit for just an eighth of a second or so, but it does continue to play properly.

setarip_old
1st April 2010, 02:11
@Skidmark I still have the original source on my HDDNo, the ORIGINAL source would be your commercial BluRay disc - and that's what you should re-"rip"...

saphire199
1st April 2010, 03:03
Hmmm... I'll do some testing -- but when I tested it right after implementing it, it took only a few minutes. Any chance your disc is getting close to full? That could make a huge difference.

OK, I found the problem - it's an external drive connected by fire wire. This works fine for BDRB and comes in handy when I have several movies to do and don't know when I will be able to get to making iso image for watching. But apparently, Imgburn doesn't like it, probably due to the data transfer rates and the fact that data has to travel to pc for processing and then back to drive. So I switched my BDRB "working" folder to hard drive and no problem.

thekiller
1st April 2010, 14:11
Hello,
I have the following message in trying to recompress a bluray for the first time, or it can come? I usually have no problem with the DTS HD tracks

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2512/capture02x.jpg

drmih
1st April 2010, 20:20
Hello,
I have the following message in trying to recompress a bluray for the first time, or it can come? I usually have no problem with the DTS HD tracks

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2512/capture02x.jpg

The solution is usually to change the settings to only include 1 audio and 1 subtitle track. Then manually click on the extra ones you need - sometimes discs are mastered so that there are lots of unnecessary audio tracks included which don't seem to serve any purpose and confuse the programme.

thekiller
2nd April 2010, 13:57
Hello
Thank you for your reply, so I can not keep everything in general because I like to keep everything, the HD tracks take too much space?

jdobbs
2nd April 2010, 14:35
Hello
Thank you for your reply, so I can not keep everything in general because I like to keep everything, the HD tracks take too much space? If there are numerous HD tracks, they could all, theoretically, combine to add up to more than 25GB... in that case there would be 0GB remaining for the video in a BD-25 backup. It's rare, but possible.

The alternative might be to choose some of the tracks and decide to reencode the audio to AC3 while keeping other HD tracks... that's something I will consider in future updates.

jdobbs
2nd April 2010, 18:46
Just an fyi to all... I've updated the first post of this thread to now point to FFDSHOW r3326. I've tested it and it appears to be fine for use with BD Rebuilder.

woodman
2nd April 2010, 19:39
@woodman, looks like the ffdshow setting for VC-1 is the problem. Set it to wmv9 and try again.

No luck with vc1 set to wmv9, the menu played ok but when I tried to watch the movie or the extras it just stayed black and I could not do anything except restart the player (standalone). It played ok on the pc.
Resetting to disabled

meadrocks
2nd April 2010, 19:40
version 0.32.08, batch mode, both times I tried The Passion, movie only, dvd9, it picked the wrong audio. There are 4 audio tracks, Latin/Aramaic/Hebrew 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio & 3 AC3 tracks. I selected the DTS audio track (soundtrack) but I keep getting 1 of the supporting audio tracks. I haven't tried it wo/ batch more yet. Maybe cause in my Preefs settings I have English selected it's overriding the Latin/Aramaic/Hebrew 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio selection. I'm trying a full disk BD25 backup currently.

jdobbs
2nd April 2010, 20:20
version 0.32.08, batch mode, both times I tried The Passion, movie only, dvd9, it picked the wrong audio. There are 4 audio tracks, Latin/Aramaic/Hebrew 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio & 3 AC3 tracks. I selected the DTS audio track (soundtrack) but I keep getting 1 of the supporting audio tracks. I haven't tried it wo/ batch more yet. Maybe cause in my Preefs settings I have English selected it's overriding the Latin/Aramaic/Hebrew 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio selection. I'm trying a full disk BD25 backup currently. This is the Mel Gibson film? I'll see if I can find it and give it a run.

BlackWolf
2nd April 2010, 20:28
...It would be great if there were DVD+R DL RW discs available to test with!:cool:
Use a BD-RE, Thats what I do and it has the additional advantage of being faster.

meadrocks
2nd April 2010, 20:46
This is the Mel Gibson film? I'll see if I can find it and give it a run.

Yes, Passion of the Christ.

drmih
2nd April 2010, 20:46
Hello
Thank you for your reply, so I can not keep everything in general because I like to keep everything, the HD tracks take too much space?

I'm not sure why but I have come across a few discs which have many audio tracks (often in the extras) which aren't used (typically 10 english audio tracks). This seems to throw the space calculation. I therefore chose the option to only one audio track, and then switch on the 'useful' ones in the main movie.

Capsbackup
3rd April 2010, 00:37
Use a BD-RE, Thats what I do and it has the additional advantage of being faster.

I have never had a BD-RE disc not work, since it uses a different laser. The problem is with full backups to DVD media, whether it is DVD5 or DVD9. Testing a DVD9 size with a BD-RE will not prove that the DVD+R DL will work. Which is why I made the comment about DVD+R DL RW media, since, if it were available, this would best represent the final desired outcome. :cool:

jdobbs
3rd April 2010, 06:57
I have never had a BD-RE disc not work, since it uses a different laser. The problem is with full backups to DVD media, whether it is DVD5 or DVD9. Testing a DVD9 size with a BD-RE will not prove that the DVD+R DL will work. Which is why I made the comment about DVD+R DL RW media, since, if it were available, this would best represent the final desired outcome. :cool: Good point. For example, there are certain discs I have tested in which the exact same image work (plays audio) on a BD-RE, but doesn't on a BD-9... I still don't know why, but I would assume the firmware follows a different path when it sees the source as DVD/AVCHD media.

e143slime8
3rd April 2010, 09:30
Another movie I've run into that will not play once burned onto 25G BD-r is Red Cliff parts 1 or 2. Neither movie, once burned onto media, will not play beyond the surface menu. Plays extras but will not play the movie, gets hung up with black screen and then freezes.

This makes Wizard of Oz, Bourne Supremacy series (all 3 of the burns) and now Red Cliff parts 1 and 2. Not sure what the common thread between these movies are. Burns are all full backups, no fancy editing. Latest SlySoft used in each case.

Attempting to play on Panasonic BD60. Only thing I haven't tried is playing these on a different player.

Again, I've so far, seen no response to my posts so any help here would be appreciated. In all cases, there were no burn error messages showing either.

TIA

BlackWolf
3rd April 2010, 10:28
I have never had a BD-RE disc not work, since it uses a different laser. The problem is with full backups to DVD media, whether it is DVD5 or DVD9. Testing a DVD9 size with a BD-RE will not prove that the DVD+R DL will work. Which is why I made the comment about DVD+R DL RW media, since, if it were available, this would best represent the final desired outcome. :cool:
Thanks for the info! I will be sure to take that into account in future burns. I have used BD-RE's to eliminate some hard cases where the burns didn't work on some Verbatim DL+R's (Singapore), i.e. it wasn't disc quality - That lesson cost me 1 buck each. The BD-RE's burned with the same image had the same problems. When a new version of Rebuilder came out I would try it again and burn to a BD-RE first, if it didn't play I put it aside again. When the BD-RE finally worked, I burned the DVD DL+R and haven't had any problems. They were movie-only burns though.:thanks:

@jdobbs: FFDSHOW r3326 has cured many almost all of these problems. I have a I7 system with Windows 7 x64, (not overclocked) where I would get a message that x264 had stopped working, but a pop-up message revealed that the error was not x264, but had occurred earlier. That seems to be fixed now. Thanks for your nice program!:thanks:

Now when I have the time I will try to solve the lack of sound on "The Last Emperor - Criterion Collection [Blu-ray] (1987)" movie-only build.

drmih
3rd April 2010, 11:30
Now when I have the time I will try to solve the lack of sound on "The Last Emperor - Criterion Collection [Blu-ray] (1987)" movie-only build.

I also reported this but couldn't find any logical reason - I just did it to a bd-re and left the audio untouched to solve the issue.

jdobbs
3rd April 2010, 13:45
Another movie I've run into that will not play once burned onto 25G BD-r is Red Cliff parts 1 or 2. Neither movie, once burned onto media, will not play beyond the surface menu. Plays extras but will not play the movie, gets hung up with black screen and then freezes.

This makes Wizard of Oz, Bourne Supremacy series (all 3 of the burns) and now Red Cliff parts 1 and 2. Not sure what the common thread between these movies are. Burns are all full backups, no fancy editing. Latest SlySoft used in each case.

Attempting to play on Panasonic BD60. Only thing I haven't tried is playing these on a different player.

Again, I've so far, seen no response to my posts so any help here would be appreciated. In all cases, there were no burn error messages showing either.

TIA I can tell you that I've done "The Wizard of Oz" in both movie-only and full backup with no issues on my Sony standalone.

colinhunt
3rd April 2010, 14:15
This is somewhat off-topic; my apologies. I did some testing last night and thought this report might be of some use to someone.

Despite what I wrote earlier, I couldn't wait for jdobb's official approval of new tools. So, I installed ffdshow 3342 and Jeeb's 32-bit x264.exe r1510 with official NAL-HRD support onto my overclocked 64-bit W7 Ultimate.

As the first test I chose Madonna's Sticky and Sweet BD. It's a BD50, with 8GBs of extras and a 35GB main movie. Video is originally AVC 1080i 29.97fps (Mediainfo says it's MBAFF). As I've had some issues with 1080i AVC in the past I figured this would be a good disc to test the new set-up. I chose to encode Main Movie only, without the stereo PCM track while keeping the 5.1ch DTS-HD MA audio.

A quick check of ffdshow's video decoder configuration showed that by default ffdshow 3342 decodes AVC using ffmpeg-mt which is actually an experimental multithreading libavcodec. I left the setting as-is, just to see what happens.

To make matters more interesting, I decided to use parameters from shon3i's post on page 375. I replaced "placebo" with "slow", however, and added the following into bdrebuilder.ini:

TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--preset slow --tune film --level 4.1 --ref 4 --keyint 24 --weightp 0 --min-keyint 2 --vbv-maxrate 14745 --vbv-bufsize 14745 --slices 4 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --sar 1:1 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --b-pyramid strict

Once the process was finished, I checked LASTCMD.TXT; this is what parameters were used for pass2:

--preset slow --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid strict --weightp 0 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 19267 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 30000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --interlaced --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --preset slow --tune film --weightp 0 --sar 1:1 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --b-pyramid strict --stats "E:\ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "E:\ENCODES\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

Some parameters are listed twice, i.e. my additions contained some parameters BD-RD had already set on its own. If a parameter is listed twice, and the second instance has a different value from the first, which value would actually be used?

Parameter "--tune film" was probably overkill. It sure as heck slowed 2nd pass down; it took 9 hours while using BD-RB's regular "Very slow" settings chews through a 2-hour movie in less than 5 hours.

Results
I've just played the resulting encode from HDD and it works perfectly. I'll burn the data on a BD-RE next and will test it on a variety of stand-alones.

Finally, an apology to jdobbs. I know you're not too keen on folks running encodes on non-approved tools, but I wasn't going to bitch and moan about BD-RB if the test turned out unsuccessful. I hope me running a test like this perhaps saves you a bit of time at some point.

jdobbs
3rd April 2010, 15:31
Finally, an apology to jdobbs. I know you're not too keen on folks running encodes on non-approved tools, but I wasn't going to bitch and moan about BD-RB if the test turned out unsuccessful. I hope me running a test like this perhaps saves you a bit of time at some point.Ugghh. My bigger concern is that people will start trying this themselves and (as is usually the case) forget to mention their "tweaking" when they tell everybody my program sucks because they're creating coasters. I can see several possible problems, example: You'll note that the settings associated with a preset include some things that are not BD compliant. So when you change it with a tweak -- you may also be making your output FUBAR by overriding some of the essential settings made by BD-RB.

So I repeat to all: If you decide to move away from the standard tools -- do so at your own risk. BD-RB outputs a compliant stream -- please leave it alone. Same for FFDSHOW versions. I don't know how many times I have said that -- but I still get about half of my bug reports from wrong versions because people are obsessed with changing versions for no reason except change itself. If I start running into headaches, the "tweak" hidden option is going to disappear quicker than a prom dress after a beer. I may also add code to make BD-RB refuse to run with untested versions of FFDSHOW and HAALI.

Capsbackup
3rd April 2010, 15:45
Ugghh.disappear quicker than a prom dress after a beer.

In light of prom season, lets hope this doesn't happen to your daughter! :p

There have been only a few "coasters" for me with BD-RB, with it actually working properly, but just no audio playing back on my standalone.
If I used my PC for playback, then it would be zero coasters from BD-RB.:)

colinhunt
3rd April 2010, 15:48
Ugghh. My bigger concern is that people will start trying this themselves and (as is usually the case) forget to mention their "tweaking" when they tell everybody my program sucks because they're creating coasters. I can see several possible problems, example: You'll note that the settings associated with a preset include some things that are not BD compliant.
A bit of clarification needed here. Are you saying the parameters I used included things that are not BD compliant? Which ones, if I may ask? Would it be OK to use "--tune film" only as a tweak?

So when you change it with a tweak -- you may also be making your output FUBAR.
Perfectly understood.

I still get about half of my bug reports from wrong versions because people are obsessed with changing versions for no reason except change itself.
Caused by the classic "a newer version is always better" school of thinking, very rarely countered by the also-classic "don't fix what ain't broken".

If you decide to move away from the standard tools -- do so at your own risk.
Which is exactly what I did. If the output from my test had came out as total rubbish, I wouldn't have said anything. Instead, I would have gone back to standard tools and left it at that. Regardless, I'm happy to see that all my "bent on breaking compatibility" tweaks resulted in a compliant output; the BD-RE is right now playing on a Philips BDP9100 without problems.

jdobbs
3rd April 2010, 15:52
A bit of clarification needed here. Are you saying the parameters I used included things that are not BD compliant? Which ones, if I may ask? Would it be OK to use "--tune film" only as a tweak?


Perfectly understood.


Which is exactly what I did. If the output from my test had came out as total rubbish, I wouldn't have said anything. Instead, I would have gone back to standard tools and left it at that. Regardless, I'm happy to see that all my "bent on breaking compatibility" tweaks resulted in a compliant output; the BD-RE is right now playing on a Philips BDP9100 without problems. That's not the point -- it may run on your system and be complete rubbish on another. The only way to be sure isn't to run it on one -- but to make the output meet the standard. I can run all kinds of non-standard crap on my Sony -- but that doesn't mean I will add it to the command line.

I'd have to ask Dark Shikari to be sure -- but I think when you used the "--preset slow", you've reset the parameters to match what comes with that preset. That might override several of the switches that are there specifically for bd compliance.

You've convinced me. The "tweak" command is going away in the next release. Otherwise I will spend the rest of my development time on BD-RB having to explain over-and-over why "breaking the standard" isn't a good thing. I knew I shouldn't have added it in the first place.

I'm not trying to be a jerk -- I'm just trying to save myself and a lot of other people considerable headaches.

colinhunt
3rd April 2010, 15:55
Another donation made to alleviate the headache caused :)

jdobbs
3rd April 2010, 16:02
In light of prom season, lets hope this doesn't happen to your daughter! :p

There have been only a few "coasters" for me with BD-RB, with it actually working properly, but just no audio playing back on my standalone.
If I used my PC for playback, then it would be zero coasters from BD-RB.:) I only have boys. :)

That audio issue with a few BD-5/9 full backup discs is something I wish I could find... the really confusing part is the fact that the same output works if written to BD-RE. Curious.

colinhunt
3rd April 2010, 16:20
That's not the point -- it may run on your system and be complete rubbish on another.
Which is why I was planning on testing the disc on 10 different stand-alones. No point now, I guess.

I'd have to ask Dark Shikari to be sure -- but I think when you used the "--preset slow", you've reset the parameters to match what comes with that preset. That might override several of the switches that are there specifically for bd compliance.
So the first instance of "--preset slow", put there by BD-RB, sets some parameters that are then tuned by the rest of the parameters set by BD-RB... and having another instance of "--preset slow" later in the command line resets those parameters to non-BD-RB values?

"--tune film" sets deblock to -1:-1 and psy-trellis to 0.15, and nothing else, apparently.

You've convinced me. The "tweak" command is going away in the next release. Otherwise I will spend the rest of my development time on BD-RB having to explain over-and-over why "breaking the standard" isn't a good thing.
Actually, the initial idea for this test came from reading about x264 r1510 with official NAL-HRD. It's supposed to enable full BD compliancy, which is what I've been waiting for. Aim of the test was never to break the standard, quite the contrary. I simply did not realise that .ini tweaks would get added a second time into the command line.

Capsbackup
3rd April 2010, 16:20
I only have boys. :)

That audio issue with a few BD-5/9 full backup discs is something I wish I could find... the really confusing part is the fact that the same output works if written to BD-RE. Curious.

Girls here! :rolleyes:
Yes it would be nice to uncover that mystery, especially since I just bought two 25 pack spindles of DVD+R DL, because after 4-5 successful full movie backups to BD-9, I got excited. :p
Oh well, maybe a fix will be found, and if not I will find some use. Until then, movie only to BD5/9 or BD-25 for full backups. :)

jdobbs
3rd April 2010, 16:37
Actually, the initial idea for this test came from reading about x264 r1510 with official NAL-HRD. It's supposed to enable full BD compliancy, which is what I've been waiting for. Aim of the test was never to break the standard, quite the contrary. I simply did not realise that .ini tweaks would get added a second time into the command line.Please don't take my comments wrong, I'm not trying to come across as a "know-it-all" or bully -- but I just keep running into the same issues over-and-over and it gets frustrating after a while.

I've decided not to remove "tweak" (yet) -- I'm just going to have to add some more commands to the "restricted" list now that the new version is out so I can prevent unintentional changes that could result in non-compliant streams.

One other note: You can't just add "bt709" via the "tweak" command -- because you may also have 720x480/576 on a blu-ray and I believe they use ITU-R BT.601/SMPTE 293M/ITU-R BT.1358.

gerald410
3rd April 2010, 16:59
Ugghh. My bigger concern is that people will start trying this themselves and (as is usually the case) forget to mention their "tweaking" when they tell everybody my program sucks because they're creating coasters. I can see several possible problems, example: You'll note that the settings associated with a preset include some things that are not BD compliant. So when you change it with a tweak -- you may also be making your output FUBAR by overriding some of the essential settings made by BD-RB.

So I repeat to all: If you decide to move away from the standard tools -- do so at your own risk. BD-RB outputs a compliant stream -- please leave it alone. Same for FFDSHOW versions. I don't know how many times I have said that -- but I still get about half of my bug reports from wrong versions because people are obsessed with changing versions for no reason except change itself. If I start running into headaches, the "tweak" hidden option is going to disappear quicker than a prom dress after a beer. I may also add code to make BD-RB refuse to run with untested versions of FFDSHOW and HAALI.

Understood completely any changes that I make and/or mention (at my own peril)are just FYI's certainly not recommendations. Thanks again for the great program!

gerald410
3rd April 2010, 17:02
.

I'm not trying to be a jerk -- I'm just trying to save myself and a lot of other people considerable headaches.

I understand your point completely!

colinhunt
3rd April 2010, 17:03
Please don't take my comments wrong, I'm not trying to come across as a "know-it-all" or bully -- but I just keep running into the same issues over-and-over and it gets frustrating after a while.
I know, and I'm sorry for the extra hassle. Believe it or not, but I was only trying to help, in an ass-backwards way.

I've decided not to remove "tweak" (yet) -- I'm just going to have to add some more commands to the "restricted" list now that the new version is out so I can prevent unintentional changes that could result in non-compliant streams.
In related news, I've now played the disc in two Samsungs, two Panasonics, three Philipses, a PS3 and a PCH C-200; it worked perfectly in all of them. A couple of the players are really old, too. Sure, it's not rock-solid proof that the disc content is 100% compliant, but surely it can't be way off either?

One other note: You can't just add "bt709" via the "tweak" command -- because you may also have 720x480/576 on a blu-ray and they use rec.601.
Yeah, I'm aware of that. This was a one-off test, and I knew I would be encoding Main Movie only, so bt709 was fine for that.

jdobbs
3rd April 2010, 17:05
Girls here! :rolleyes:
Yes it would be nice to uncover that mystery, especially since I just bought two 25 pack spindles of DVD+R DL, because after 4-5 successful full movie backups to BD-9, I got excited. :p
Oh well, maybe a fix will be found, and if not I will find some use. Until then, movie only to BD5/9 or BD-25 for full backups. :) It's pretty rare, though, and it may only apply to Sony players. If I remember correctly I ran into it in "The Watcher" -- it drove me nuts until I realized it was just a "quirk".

jdobbs
3rd April 2010, 17:12
I know, and I'm sorry for the extra hassle. Believe it or not, but I was only trying to help, in an ass-backwards way.


In related news, I've now played the disc in two Samsungs, two Panasonics, three Philipses, a PS3 and a PCH C-200; it worked perfectly in all of them. A couple of the players are really old, too. Sure, it's not rock-solid proof that the disc content is 100% compliant, but surely it can't be way off either?


Yeah, I'm aware of that. This was a one-off test, and I knew I would be encoding Main Movie only, so bt709 was fine for that.:cool:

colinhunt
3rd April 2010, 17:16
For s***s and giggles, I went and picked up a really old player from storage. It's a Panasonic DMP-BD10, released in Autumn 2006. The disc plays just fine in that one as well, although it's outputting decoded DTS core as PCM; HDMI 1.0 and no support for HD audio yet in this one =)

jdobbs
3rd April 2010, 18:07
I've updated the first post of this thread with an updated link to a new version (v0.33.02) of BD-RB. Changes for this release:- Added a new option "Other Movie-Only Ouput" to the
MODE menu. This allows you to create other types of
files (rather than BD). The current choices are for
iPOD and iPAD (.MP4) files) and MKV output, but I
expect to add other choices in future releases. The
output to alternate formats does not attempt to reach
target sizes, but instead uses a fixed CRF which can
be set via the "ALTCRF=n" hidden parameter. The
default value for ALTCRF is 21.
- Added an "Automatic Quality Settings" option to the
"Encoder Settings" menu. When selected, BD-RB will
automatically make quality selections based upon the
type and size of output. This option is meant to
help avoid confusion caused by the numerous options.
The default setting is now "ON".
- Changed default for for b-pyramid to "strict"
- Added some control code to prevent certain options
from creating non-compliant streams.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1510).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

gerald410
3rd April 2010, 18:17
I've updated the first post of this thread with an updated link to a new version (v0.33.02) of BD-RB. Changes for this release:- Added a new option "Other Movie-Only Ouput" to the
MODE menu. This allows you to create other types of
files (rather than BD). The current choices are for
iPOD and iPAD (.MP4) files) and MKV output, but I
expect to add other choices in future releases. The
output to alternate formats does not attempt to reach
target sizes, but instead uses a fixed CRF which can
be set via the "ALTCRF=n" hidden parameter. The
default value for ALTCRF is 21.
- Added an "Automatic Quality Settings" option to the
"Encoder Settings" menu. When selected, BD-RB will
automatically make quality selections based upon the
type and size of output. This option is meant to
help avoid confusion caused by the numerous options.
The default setting is now "ON".
- Changed default for for b-pyramid to "strict"
- Added some control code to prevent certain options
from creating non-compliant streams.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1510).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.


Thx for the update, will test when I get home can't wait lol

ftb32
3rd April 2010, 18:21
Thanks for updatr mi amigo jdobbs...

colinhunt
3rd April 2010, 18:30
Added a new option "Other Movie-Only Ouput" to the MODE menu. This allows you to create other types of files (rather than BD). The current choices are for iPOD and iPAD (.MP4) files) and MKV output
Very, very cool and extremely useful, thank you. I tend to make Movie Only backups and encode any interesting extras as MKV, so this feature makes it quite a bit handier, I'm sure.

e143slime8
3rd April 2010, 18:53
Another movie I've run into that will not play once burned onto 25G BD-r is Red Cliff parts 1 or 2. Neither movie, once burned onto media, will not play beyond the surface menu. Plays extras but will not play the movie, gets hung up with black screen and then freezes.

This makes Wizard of Oz, Bourne Supremacy series (all 3 of the burns) and now Red Cliff parts 1 and 2. Not sure what the common thread between these movies are. Burns are all full backups, no fancy editing. Latest SlySoft used in each case.

Attempting to play on Panasonic BD60. Only thing I haven't tried is playing these on a different player.

Again, I've so far, seen no response to my posts so any help here would be appreciated. In all cases, there were no burn error messages showing either.

TIA

Jdobbs, thanks for your response elsewhere.

Am finally doing housecleaning and have tested my accumulated pile of burned, backed up to 25G Bd-r Optiplex media. Add to the list of "won't play on my Panny beyond the introduction screens", the Matrix series. So far, backed up Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolution, same results. Have not yet tried "The Matrix" itself, fearing the same results. It, for now, remains on my computer waiting a burn.

I know that if I put these to 50G media, the burn will work.

Will continue to pursue and take this batch of unplayable discs to another player to see if it's a Panny problem.

slimer8

:thanks:

colinhunt
3rd April 2010, 20:51
First test on v0.33.02 and something odd happened. Inspect gives "OK" for everything; no tweaks except custom size for BD-25. BD-RB running on a non-overclocked Vista 64-bit Ultimate.

Source is multiepisode anime BD50, with English and Japanese TrueHD audio and English subs.
1) Chose Movie Only
2) Chose Other Movie Only output and ticked the box for 1080p MKV.
3) To encode a single episode only, I then selected Alternate Movie Only, and chose first of the displayed playlists (00031 - 00:23:22 - 4 chapters)
4) Deselected English TrueHD.
5) Clicked Backup.

Once A/V streams were extracted, BD-RB tried to encode audio. A DOS window was kept open in the background for approx. 15 minutes for the Dolby Digital encode @ 640kbps. Progress was at 0% the whole time, but the value for "q" kept changing slightly every couple of seconds. Suddenly the DOS window disappeared (while still showing progress at 0%) and BD-RB reported it's Multiplexing M2TS. Then it reported Phase One complete and tried to enter Phase Two - Rebuild. Here's the log which shows what happened:

- Input BD size: 4,64 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:23:22.025]
- Target BD size: 23,49 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:26:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:26:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [22:28:28] Reencoding: VID_00038 (1 of 1)
- [22:28:28] Collecting video information
- [22:28:28] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:28:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:42:20] Multiplexing M2TS
[22:42:20]PHASE ONE complete
[22:42:20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:42:20] Rebuilding stream 00038 [1 of 1]
- [22:42:20] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[22:43:47] - Failed to REBUILD

BD-RB seems to get a bit confused with all these demands made on it.

setarip_old
3rd April 2010, 21:29
@jdobbs - Added some control code to prevent certain options from creating non-compliant streams.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the latest release (r1510).

Does this mean that "HD-DVD Compliant" is now (once again) compliant, despite the X264.exe version change?

Capsbackup
3rd April 2010, 23:42
@jdobbs;
I updated to the new recommended ffdshow you listed on the first page, even though all was working fine for me for all movie types, but to try and get my setup to agree with your inspect tool.
Inspect tool shows:
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
Since I am using XP Pro and have WMP11 installed, why does VC-1 say "set incorrectly: [0]", and what should the setting be? Do you now want VC-1 set differently if using WMP11? :confused:
What setting do you want for ffdshow for mpeg2, since I receive - "FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]"? Libmpeg2 has been my setting and has always worked, but what is your preference?
Since Avisynth 2.5.8.0 has been out for quite some time and not failed me yet, is there a reason you do not recommend it? Any testing on your part to include it in the recommended list?
I would like my setup to best match yours, so if any bugs develop, it will not be because of the setup. ;)

EDIT:
OK, I changed FFDSHOW MPEG2 to libavcodec and it now says Ok.

worknstiff
4th April 2010, 00:43
Pardon me for this question but I would like to know if there is a max encoding bitrate limit. I have just started a encode with almost 4hrs and BD_RBLD says bitrate is 3683 kbs. Am I pushing into blockyness territory? Has anyone been able to quantify what the minimun bitrate is for best picture quality? Is it affected by how many action scenes the movie contains or is there just a magic number to shoot for. Sorry to interupt but would like too know before I waste my time only to find out I maybe need to trim an episode or two from the disk I'm working on. thanks Jdobbs for the great program, it's is working for me (movie only) 100% of the time.

PS: just wanted to throw in that Toy Story 2 has some kind of glitch that causes the 1:32 minute runtime to change too 1:38 after BD_RBLDR puts the 23 part mpls back together while doing a Movie Only rebuild. I tried this with Clown_BD also with the same results, but the movie plays fine and ends at the 1:32 mark even though the time says 1:38. It has no problems with audio sync or skipping. Seeya, worknstiff

jdobbs
4th April 2010, 02:57
@jdobbs

Does this mean that "HD-DVD Compliant" is now (once again) compliant, despite the X264.exe version change? Not sure....

jdobbs
4th April 2010, 02:59
@jdobbs;
I updated to the new recommended ffdshow you listed on the first page, even though all was working fine for me for all movie types, but to try and get my setup to agree with your inspect tool.
Inspect tool shows:
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
Since I am using XP Pro and have WMP11 installed, why does VC-1 say "set incorrectly: [0]", and what should the setting be? Do you now want VC-1 set differently if using WMP11? :confused:
What setting do you want for ffdshow for mpeg2, since I receive - "FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]"? Libmpeg2 has been my setting and has always worked, but what is your preference?
Since Avisynth 2.5.8.0 has been out for quite some time and not failed me yet, is there a reason you do not recommend it? Any testing on your part to include it in the recommended list?
I would like my setup to best match yours, so if any bugs develop, it will not be because of the setup. ;)

EDIT:
OK, I changed FFDSHOW MPEG2 to libavcodec and it now says Ok.libmpeg2 should be ok too. I'll have to change the code to acknowledge that.

jdobbs
4th April 2010, 03:06
Once A/V streams were extracted, BD-RB tried to encode audio. A DOS window was kept open in the background for approx. 15 minutes for the Dolby Digital encode @ 640kbps. Progress was at 0% the whole time, but the value for "q" kept changing slightly every couple of seconds. Suddenly the DOS window disappeared (while still showing progress at 0%) and BD-RB reported it's Multiplexing M2TS. The percentage complete during encode staying at 0% is normal. I'm not sure why it does that -- but it is encoding ok, so you should ignore it.

Are you sure you didn't stop the audio encode somehow? That would result in exactly the error you received.

colinhunt
4th April 2010, 11:51
Are you sure you didn't stop the audio encode somehow? That would result in exactly the error you received.
Yup, I'm sure. I tried to run the encode a couple of times, with exact same results.

jdobbs
4th April 2010, 12:26
Yup, I'm sure. I tried to run the encode a couple of times, with exact same results. I just tested it following your steps on one of my "Firefly" discs. It worked fine on that one. What disc are you attempting to backup? I noticed also that you said you chose the episode in 00031, but the encode was of 00038...

colinhunt
4th April 2010, 12:45
I just tested it following your steps on one of my "Firefly" discs. It worked fine on that one. What disc are you attempting to backup? I noticed also that you said you chose the episode in 00031, but the encode was of 00038...
Samurai Champloo (US). I must've gotten mixed up with playlist numbers when re-trying the encode. That means the issue was not limited to one particular playlist item. I'll do some further debugging by trying the same encode on another PC, one not running Vista.

update: Ran the same encode on a Win XP Pro SP3 32-bit. Same result, unfortunately:

[14:55:19] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: BD_SAMURAICHAMPLOO_D1
- Input BD size: 4,64 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:23:22.025]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:55:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:55:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [14:57:34] Reencoding: VID_00038 (1 of 1)
- [14:57:34] Collecting video information
- [14:57:34] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:57:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:09:49] Multiplexing M2TS
[15:09:49]PHASE ONE complete
[15:09:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [15:09:49] Rebuilding stream 00038 [1 of 1]
- [15:09:49] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MKVMERGE)
[15:12:07] - Failed to REBUILD

And just in case it helps any, here's the job .INF:

[Status]
LABEL=BD_SAMURAICHAMPLOO_D1
VERSION=v0.33.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=4978784256
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=4978784256
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=4.88612519626317
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=jpn;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=5
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00038]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=01
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=24326963200
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0

WORKFILES folder contains two .264 files with identical size (3 594 012 KB), and two .ac3 files, with 1KB difference in size (371 284 KB and 371 285 KB), along with the usual .meta and .avs files.

steveg32
4th April 2010, 14:54
I can tell you that I've done "The Wizard of Oz" in both movie-only and full backup with no issues on my Sony standalone.

@e143slime8
I've also done "The Wizard of Oz" in full backup with no issues on my Pioneer BDP-120 standalone.

DaMacFunkin
4th April 2010, 15:51
Ran into a problem, been a long time since i had one, The Title Is Dr Parnasus Region B, i think the problem file(s) are AVC 1080i@25fps, audio is stereo ac3, there is a large one of these files (nearly 2 gig) later in the files list so doing a minimum file encode isnt an option, here is the Log:
[15:43:34] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: DOCTOR_PARNASSUS
- Input BD size: 42.09 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:00:51.680]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[15:43:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:43:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:43:40] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 16)
- [15:43:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 725 frames
- Bitrate: 9,327 Kbs
- [15:43:40] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:44:33] Video Encode complete
- [15:44:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:44:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:44:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 0
[15:44:35] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Here is my ini:

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23200
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
FULL_AVCHD=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\DOCTOR PARNASUS BD\DOCTOR PARNASSUS\
WORKING_PATH=E:\DR P\

any help much appreciated.

Reveal
4th April 2010, 18:28
-----------------------
[19:08:04] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: ORPHAN
- Input BD size: 22,76 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:02:55.993]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:08:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:08:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- 30.5% complete
[19:24:36] - Failed to retrieve audio,
-------------------------------------------------------
[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=7910
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUTO_BURN=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\ORPHAN.2009.720P.AC3.DVD9-REVEAL\ORPHAN\
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\XXXXXXXX\DESKTOP\XXXX\

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3766/errorstd.jpg

beto21
4th April 2010, 19:21
Hello I'm trying to reencode the Sherlock Holmes blu-ray (region A) to a BD25, first there's an audio that I cannot select, it says it's DTS-Express, Stereo; I believe that is for the picture in picture track, well I can't select it, and when I select backup anyway, I get this:
[12:15:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:15:03] Reencoding: VID_00181 (1 of 46)
- [12:15:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,485 frames
- [12:15:03] Reencoding: VID_00181, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3299)
[12:15:13] - Failed video encode, aborted

I tried before with an older 'revision' of FFDSHOW and didn't work either, but worked fine with another movie (NewMoon).

Any ideas?

jdobbs
4th April 2010, 19:47
-----------------------
[19:08:04] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: ORPHAN
- Input BD size: 22,76 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:02:55.993]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:08:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:08:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- 30.5% complete
[19:24:36] - Failed to retrieve audio,
-------------------------------------------------------
[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=7910
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUTO_BURN=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\ORPHAN.2009.720P.AC3.DVD9-REVEAL\ORPHAN\
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\XXXXXXXX\DESKTOP\XXXX\ It looks like you accidentally killed the audio encoding process because the last message wasn't an error, it was a status (30.5% complete).

jdobbs
4th April 2010, 19:48
Hello I'm trying to reencode the Sherlock Holmes blu-ray (region A) to a BD25, first there's an audio that I cannot select, it says it's DTS-Express, Stereo; I believe that is for the picture in picture track, well I can't select it, and when I select backup anyway, I get this:
[12:15:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:15:03] Reencoding: VID_00181 (1 of 46)
- [12:15:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,485 frames
- [12:15:03] Reencoding: VID_00181, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3299)
[12:15:13] - Failed video encode, aborted

I tried before with an older 'revision' of FFDSHOW and didn't work either, but worked fine with another movie (NewMoon).

Any ideas? DTS Express isn't supported yet because it cannot be demuxed/muxed by TSMUXER. It is the audio associated with PiP. Please post the entire log so I can also see what version of Windows and BD-RB you are using.

Kakashi Sensei
4th April 2010, 21:05
@colinhunt - Did a BD25 encode of all 3 Samurai Champloo Blurays (US) and it came out perfect no issues. I didn't do the BD-5/9.

colinhunt
4th April 2010, 21:45
@colinhunt - Did a BD25 encode of all 3 Samurai Champloo Blurays (US) and it came out perfect no issues. I didn't do the BD-5/9.
OK... but I wasn't doing a BD5/9. I was trying to encode a single episode into a 1080p MKV using 0.33.2's new output mode. I'm sure a BD25 of Samurai Champloo would come out just fine... hang on, I did do a full backup of disc 1 to BD25 to see what the result looks like; I was a bit worried about the quality since cramming 270 minutes of 1080p (even if it's anime) onto BD25 didn't sound too good. I saw some weird artefacts in the backgrounds and bitrate dropped quite often below 10mbps. I wasn't happy with the quality.

TeabagChamp
4th April 2010, 22:01
Hi, just an aesthetic bug but... I find that if I untic automatic quality settings and tic ultra high quality then when I restart bd-rb there is no option for ultra high quality anymore however the config file still shows it as a 4. I'm running win 7 x64.

jdobbs
4th April 2010, 22:58
Hi, just an aesthetic bug but... I find that if I untic automatic quality settings and tic ultra high quality then when I restart bd-rb there is no option for ultra high quality anymore however the config file still shows it as a 4. I'm running win 7 x64. That was a mistake. "Ultra High Quality" was left over from long ago and shouldn't actually ever be visible. The value "QUALITY=4" was meant to only be available via hidden setting.

beto21
4th April 2010, 23:41
DTS Express isn't supported yet because it cannot be demuxed/muxed by TSMUXER. It is the audio associated with PiP. Please post the entire log so I can also see what version of Windows and BD-RB you are using.

Thanks, here's the entire log:

[16:38:45] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: SHERLOCK_HOLMES
- Input BD size: 35.76 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:29:32.100]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:38:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:38:47] Reencoding: VID_00181 (1 of 46)
- [16:38:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,485 frames
- [16:38:47] Reencoding: VID_00181, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3299)
[16:38:54] - Failed video encode, aborted

even if it could reencode the pip track would have no sound right?
thanks

chudm
4th April 2010, 23:42
That was a mistake. "Ultra High Quality" was left over from long ago and shouldn't actually ever be visible. The value "QUALITY=4" was meant to only be available via hidden setting.

which one its the default quality setting in previous versions? (high quality or very high)?

jdobbs
5th April 2010, 01:04
Thanks, here's the entire log:

[16:38:45] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: SHERLOCK_HOLMES
- Input BD size: 35.76 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:29:32.100]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:38:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:38:47] Reencoding: VID_00181 (1 of 46)
- [16:38:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,485 frames
- [16:38:47] Reencoding: VID_00181, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3299)
[16:38:54] - Failed video encode, aborted

even if it could reencode the pip track would have no sound right?
thanks Please run the INSPECT.EXE program included in the BD-RB folder and post the results. It appears your configuration isn't correct for VC-1.

jdobbs
5th April 2010, 01:05
which one its the default quality setting in previous versions? (high quality or very high)?In the past the default has been "High Quality". But with AUTOMATIC enabled, now it is variable.

beto21
5th April 2010, 01:44
Please run the INSPECT.EXE program included in the BD-RB folder and post the results. It appears your configuration isn't correct for VC-1.

Here are the results from Inspect.exe
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3299, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

I guess I should update AVISYNTH, Haali splitter and FFDSHOW
what's the recommended version?
thanks so much:thanks:

Ch3vr0n
5th April 2010, 01:59
the recommended versions are the ones linked in the very first post of this topic. The ones that are linked in the installation instructions for BDRB

Kakashi Sensei
5th April 2010, 02:10
OK... but I wasn't doing a BD5/9. I was trying to encode a single episode into a 1080p MKV using 0.33.2's new output mode. I'm sure a BD25 of Samurai Champloo would come out just fine... hang on, I did do a full backup of disc 1 to BD25 to see what the result looks like; I was a bit worried about the quality since cramming 270 minutes of 1080p (even if it's anime) onto BD25 didn't sound too good. I saw some weird artefacts in the backgrounds and bitrate dropped quite often below 10mbps. I wasn't happy with the quality.

Samurai Champloo isn't the best source to be referancing though as its a 1080p up-convert not a true 1080p source for animation, I would check your rips if you are getting macro blocking as my encode was identical to the source i had, you may have a bad rip. Didn't think I would see anyone on here with this anime :)

Good luck :)

beto21
5th April 2010, 02:11
the recommended versions are the ones linked in the very first post of this topic. The ones that are linked in the installation instructions for BDRB

thanks
I'll check and post results :)

Update: It worked thanks! and excuse my newbism

deank
5th April 2010, 09:54
@jdobbs

Does this mean that "HD-DVD Compliant" is now (once again) compliant, despite the X264.exe version change?

Not sure....

No, it won't work with hddvdmux. I asked for some help here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152127&page=23) and after some investigations all day yesterday it seems it is something easy to fix in hddvdmux.

Dark Shikari suggested a fix (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1388915#post1388915), so I'll try to play with hddvdmux source later (tough thing to do, since the source is a complete mess).

Dean

Reveal
5th April 2010, 10:50
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3766/errorstd.jpg

It looks like you accidentally killed the audio encoding process because the last message wasn't an error, it was a status (30.5% complete).

colinhunt
5th April 2010, 12:15
Samurai Champloo isn't the best source to be referancing though as its a 1080p up-convert not a true 1080p source for animation
Yeah, I was a bit miffed when I found that out. Luckily it was on sale at Amazon so not an expensive mistake to make.

I would check your rips if you are getting macro blocking as my encode was identical to the source i had, you may have a bad rip.
Spent a few minutes checking the rip, then got fed up and gave up on it. I might return to this with a future version of BD-RB.

jdobbs
5th April 2010, 13:35
Here are the results from Inspect.exe
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3299, not recommended version
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [5]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

I guess I should update AVISYNTH, Haali splitter and FFDSHOW
what's the recommended version?
thanks so much:thanks: I would update HAALI first, as that seems to be the most common source of issues with VC-1.

jdobbs
5th April 2010, 13:40
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3766/errorstd.jpg TSMUXER has an issue resizing some 1080 subtitles to 720p. I'd remove subs one at a time and find our which one is causing the issue.

DaMacFunkin
5th April 2010, 16:25
The Title Is Dr Parnasus Region B, i think the problem file(s) are AVC 1080i@25fps, audio is stereo ac3,

- [15:44:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 0
[15:44:35] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


any help much appreciated.

Anyone????

jdobbs
5th April 2010, 16:38
Anyone???? That's an error reported by TSMUXER when it attempts to demux. It's been a long time since I saw a report of that one -- but I think the other reports ended up being bad rips.

happycase
5th April 2010, 19:29
Is ultra high better than the very high setting or is it really not even worth the time and effort?

jdobbs
5th April 2010, 19:35
Is ultra high better than the very high setting or is it really not even worth the time and effort? IMHO it is not worth the time involved, that's why I don't have it as a standard choice.

kalle2k3
5th April 2010, 20:04
Added an "Automatic Quality Settings" option to the
"Encoder Settings" menu. When selected, BD-RB will
automatically make quality selections based upon the
type and size of output.

Could you please comment on this regarding BD25 output ? I have manually set custom size to 23900 MB and BD-RB now seems to always choose 1-pass ABR.
Is 1-pass ABR the preferred output choice for BD25 as i have choosen High Quality 2-pass for every encode before (well, that was the default setting..) ? Thanks a lot for your new version. Great prog.

jdobbs
5th April 2010, 20:35
Could you please comment on this regarding BD25 output ? I have manually set custom size to 23900 MB and BD-RB now seems to always choose 1-pass ABR.
Is 1-pass ABR the preferred output choice for BD25 as i have choosen High Quality 2-pass for every encode before (well, that was the default setting..) ? Thanks a lot for your new version. Great prog.

That is my recommendation based on the output size -- you can, however, change it by unclicking "Automatic". You'll probably see some tweaking on the automatic settings over the next couple of versions.

MvB
5th April 2010, 22:04
Hi Jdobbs,

i get a strange crash of txmuxer.exe that appears at 2.5% with serenity blu ray (uk version).

But the file plays fine in media player classic hc.

here are the logs:

-----------------------
[22:49:24] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: SERENITY_G51_GLO2
- Input BD size: 31,50 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:59:02.552]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[22:49:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:49:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00333]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- 2.5% complete
[22:49:40] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[Status]
LABEL=SERENITY_G51_GLO2
VERSION=v0.33.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=33824704512
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33824704512
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=.135440312342558
RESIZE_1080=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=0
[00333]
AUDIO=100000000000
PGS=10000100000000000000000000000000

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "E:\SERENITY\SERENITY_G51_GLO2\BDMV\STREAM\00333.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "E:\SERENITY\SERENITY_G51_GLO2\BDMV\STREAM\00333.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=eng, mplsFile=00000
S_HDMV/PGS, "E:\SERENITY\SERENITY_G51_GLO2\BDMV\STREAM\00333.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=eng, mplsFile=00000
S_HDMV/PGS, "E:\SERENITY\SERENITY_G51_GLO2\BDMV\STREAM\00333.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4613,lang=deu, mplsFile=00000

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok


edit:
I found out, that the english subtitles are the problem, all other work.
Could there be a problem with subtitles and tsmuxer?
Sorry, i think it has nothing to do with your application.


The version of haali is the one you have for download in the first message of this thread. I hope this is ok.

jdobbs
6th April 2010, 00:25
@MvB

The most likely problem is the resizing to 720p. TSMUXER has issues trying to do so with certain subs and crashes in the process. I'd eliminate one sub at a time until I find the one that is causing the problem.

I have this listed in my "things to do" list -- and have already begun the encoding to do the sub resize myself, I just haven't gotten around to finishing it.

As long as you have installed the HAALI from the first post you should be fine. Apparently there is some way in which a new install of HAALI doesn't completely remove the old one and the checksum routine in INSPECT.EXE sees the install as a mismatch. If you completely uninstall HAALI and then clear it's folder followed by a reinstall it should fix it and get an "Ok".

[edit] Whoops, just noticed your edit... we're on the same wavelength. :)

no.1_dark_knight
6th April 2010, 01:31
when adding the movie to batch, it removes the english ac3 audio from the first track, which is kept before adding to que, and it keeps the french and spanish track when they should not. seems to work ok when just doing a straight backup. no errors in the log file, using version 0.32.08 and tried 0.33.02. Any other info you need i'll try and help, just thought i would bring this up. Thanks for the awesome program :thanks:

jdobbs
6th April 2010, 04:57
when adding the movie to batch, it removes the english ac3 audio from the first track, which is kept before adding to que, and it keeps the french and spanish track when they should not. seems to work ok when just doing a straight backup. no errors in the log file, using version 0.32.08 and tried 0.33.02. Any other info you need i'll try and help, just thought i would bring this up. Thanks for the awesome program :thanks: I'll relook at the way I'm keeping the stream selections in batch. One thing you have to be careful of, though, is that you put your job in the queue as soon as you've completed your settings. The settings in the queue represent a moment in time.

happycase
6th April 2010, 06:32
Another quick question:

With movies like The Godfather and Angels and Demons which have occasional subtitles throughout the movie, what is a good way to maintain them in backups or add them back in after the encoding job with BD RB is complete? I tried a backup of Godfather 2 and noticed that none of the foreign speech had subtitles.

jdobbs
6th April 2010, 14:26
Another quick question:

With movies like The Godfather and Angels and Demons which have occasional subtitles throughout the movie, what is a good way to maintain them in backups or add them back in after the encoding job with BD RB is complete? I tried a backup of Godfather 2 and noticed that none of the foreign speech had subtitles. You have to do a full backup and make sure you have selected the correct subtitle. I personally just always keep all the subtitles so I don't have to worry about it. If doing movie-only you have to find out which subtitle is the right one, and then right-click on the subtitle in the stream list and select "Turn subtitle ON"

setarip_old
6th April 2010, 18:40
@jdobbs

Hi!

In your summary of changes for v.33.02 you list: "Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1510)"

Is this the same as: "rack04's build" of 1510?

deank
6th April 2010, 18:52
To avoid further confusion I'll add that rack04 compiled a build answering to my request (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152127&page=24)and PM'd me the exe... It is not published for download nor you'll find it anywhere around, but in the threads (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1389305#post1389305) you follow, setarip. It is the regular x264 r1510 but without the ffmpeg/ffms2 + long start-code (just as all older builds).

setarip_old
6th April 2010, 20:27
@jdobbs, @deank

In light of how impressive both of your programs are and, still more impressively, how they continue to expand and improve, I (and, I presume the few others who use the two in conjunction as a means of creating HD-DVD videos) am more than happy to continue making the minor adjustments required in order to be able to continue to use them for this limited purpose conversion.

Congratulations to you both for continuing, "To go where no man has gone before" ;>}

jdobbs
6th April 2010, 20:41
@jdobbs

Hi!

In your summary of changes for v.33.02 you list: "Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1510)"

Is this the same as: "rack04's build" of 1510? It is the master build that is located at http://www.x264.nl. The Blu-ray changes and --nal-hrd capability have now been integrated into the master and are no longer required via patch.

Capsbackup
6th April 2010, 20:51
@jdobbs;
I have a second XP Pro installation on a seperate hard drive, since I like knowing I can boot from either drive if one has a problem.
I have not used that OS for some time, so after booting to it, updating antivirus and windows, I unzip a fresh BD-RBV03302, and run the inspect tool to check things out.
I get the message that " HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version", so I uninstall the one I have, run Regedit, delete all entries of Haali, reboot and download the one from the first page of your thread.
After installing that one, I reboot, and run the inspect tool again, but I get the same message.:confused:
MatroskaSplitter says 1.9.42.1.
I have not tried BD-RB yet, but why would I get this message from your download version?

jdobbs
6th April 2010, 21:45
@jdobbs;
I have a second XP Pro installation on a seperate hard drive, since I like knowing I can boot from either drive if one has a problem.
I have not used that OS for some time, so after booting to it, updating antivirus and windows, I unzip a fresh BD-RBV03302, and run the inspect tool to check things out.
I get the message that " HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version", so I uninstall the one I have, run Regedit, delete all entries of Haali, reboot and download the one from the first page of your thread.
After installing that one, I reboot, and run the inspect tool again, but I get the same message.:confused:
MatroskaSplitter says 1.9.42.1.
I have not tried BD-RB yet, but why would I get this message from your download version? You probably have some residual files in "c:\program files\haali\matroskasplitter". After you uninstall, clear that folder before the reinstall.

Capsbackup
6th April 2010, 22:12
You probably have some residual files in "c:\program files\haali\matroskasplitter". After you uninstall, clear that folder before the reinstall.

Thank you kindly. You were exactly correct! :)

user822
7th April 2010, 11:32
Hi!

how can I use "Hiddenopts"

Rebuilder keeps on ignoring TWEAK_PASS
although it says " - X264 Tweak(s) enabled"

i have them in the following format: TWEAK_PASS_ONE= --slices 0 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 25 --b-pyramid normal --bframes 5 --ipratio 1.4 --pbratio 1.4


EDIT: found the problem, it puts my options after the other options and the first option is taken, i think this is a BUG

thanks in advance!

user

Discoboy
7th April 2010, 12:02
Hi jdobbs and all,

If I run a project and keep the original movie size at 1080P, keeping the main languages subs, the forced subs will automatically display. The standard subs are off by default but can be enabled at any time by the player’s subs on/off option. This is how I like so as to be the same as the original movie.

But if I run the same project but resize from 1080P to 720P the forced subs do not display automatically. I have to turn on the subs on the player but then I get all the subs and not just the forced subs. If I was to set subs to on in BD_RB then I guess I will get all subs on again and not just the forced subs.

Question is: How to setup BD_RB to just show forced subs defaulted to ON when resizing from 1080P to 720P?
:thanks:

deank
7th April 2010, 13:08
Hi!

how can I use "Hiddenopts"

Rebuilder keeps on ignoring TWEAK_PASS
although it says " - X264 Tweak(s) enabled"

i have them in the following format: TWEAK_PASS_ONE= --slices 0 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 25 --b-pyramid normal --bframes 5 --ipratio 1.4 --pbratio 1.4

I guess you're aware that except for --ipratio 1.4 --pbratio 1.4 all of the other options you're using will produce non-compliant Blu-ray disc which probably won't play in any hardware player, aren't you?

user822
7th April 2010, 13:09
I guess you're aware that except for --ipratio 1.4 --pbratio 1.4 all of the other options you're using will produce non-compliant Blu-ray disc which probably won't play in any hardware player, aren't you?

my player worked with a test stream i encoded that way, so for me there seems to be no problem!

it gives much better qual. so i would really like to use those options

Dark Shikari
7th April 2010, 13:33
I guess you're aware that except for --ipratio 1.4 --pbratio 1.4 all of the other options you're using will produce non-compliant Blu-ray disc which probably won't play in any hardware player, aren't you?No, they'll probably play just fine. The Blu-ray spec is a massive subset of what Blu-ray players actually support, since most Blu-ray players use chipsets designed for general H.264 decoding.

jdobbs
7th April 2010, 14:30
Hi!

how can I use "Hiddenopts"

Rebuilder keeps on ignoring TWEAK_PASS
although it says " - X264 Tweak(s) enabled"

i have them in the following format: TWEAK_PASS_ONE= --slices 0 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 25 --b-pyramid normal --bframes 5 --ipratio 1.4 --pbratio 1.4


EDIT: found the problem, it puts my options after the other options and the first option is taken, i think this is a BUG

thanks in advance!

userNo it's NOT a bug. That's how it's supposed to work. Any options you enter will override earlier options. There are also some options that BD-RB will remove from your line because they might violate blu-ray requirements. The one's you are trying to enter very definitely do.

This is why I hesitated to add the "tweak" option and why it will probably be removed eventually.

jdobbs
7th April 2010, 14:35
No, they'll probably play just fine. The Blu-ray spec is a massive subset of what Blu-ray players actually support, since most Blu-ray players use chipsets designed for general H.264 decoding. Just because a player will play it doesn't mean it should be allowed. The problem is that some may not -- and folks always seem to "forget" to mention that the problem was self-inflicted when they tell me that BD-RB created a coaster.

jdobbs
7th April 2010, 14:36
my player worked with a test stream i encoded that way, so for me there seems to be no problem!

it gives much better qual. so i would really like to use those options If you look at the command line that was used, though, you'll see that of the things you added, the ones that would violate spec were removed by BD-RB. So the "better qual" is very likely your imagination.

While people like to play with the options that violate spec, and sometimes they're seem to work fine, it would really be a disappointment when you buy a new-and-improved player next year only to find that none of your discs work anymore.

A specification is there for a reason.

jdobbs
7th April 2010, 14:58
Hi jdobbs and all,

If I run a project and keep the original movie size at 1080P, keeping the main languages subs, the forced subs will automatically display. The standard subs are off by default but can be enabled at any time by the player’s subs on/off option. This is how I like so as to be the same as the original movie.

But if I run the same project but resize from 1080P to 720P the forced subs do not display automatically. I have to turn on the subs on the player but then I get all the subs and not just the forced subs. If I was to set subs to on in BD_RB then I guess I will get all subs on again and not just the forced subs.

Question is: How to setup BD_RB to just show forced subs defaulted to ON when resizing from 1080P to 720P?
:thanks: They should work the same way whether resized or no... but maybe I missed something. I'll take a look.

user822
7th April 2010, 16:46
No it's NOT a bug. That's how it's supposed to work. Any options you enter will override earlier options. There are also some options that BD-RB will remove from your line because they might violate blu-ray requirements. The one's you are trying to enter very definitely do.

This is why I hesitated to add the "tweak" option and why it will probably be removed eventually.

so i need to encode this stream manually or is there an old version where it works 100%?


If you look at the command line that was used, though, you'll see that of the things you added, the ones that would violate spec were removed by BD-RB. So the "better qual" is very likely your imagination.

While people like to play with the options that violate spec, and sometimes they're seem to work fine, it would really be a disappointment when you buy a new-and-improved player next year only to find that none of your discs work anymore.

A specification is there for a reason.

better quality is not an imagination with 10 times as much keyint more b and re-frames and rc-lookahead

worse compatibility, true

and i will not be disappointed when i buy a new blu ray player because i exactly know it might happen

jdobbs
7th April 2010, 17:28
so i need to encode this stream manually or is there an old version where it works 100%?

This one works 100%, the problem isn't BD-RB, it's your decision to do it wrong. If you want to encode outside of standards, I'd suggest you use something else, because that's one thing that isn't going to change in BD-RB.

jdobbs
7th April 2010, 17:34
so i need to encode this stream manually or is there an old version where it works 100%?




better quality is not an imagination with 10 times as much keyint more b and re-frames and rc-lookahead

worse compatibility, true

and i will not be disappointed when i buy a new blu ray player because i exactly know it might happen You really don't want to listen, do you? What you are saying is nonsense -- especially in consideration of the blu-ray standards. I've made my point. This is a bug thread and I make decisions on my software -- if you post anything else related to this non-bug, you will receive a strike. Consider yourself warned.

user822
7th April 2010, 17:35
This one works 100%, the problem isn't BD-RB, it's your decision to do it wrong. If you want to encode outside of standards, I'd suggest you use something else, because that's one thing that isn't going to change in BD-RB.

Edit. read your post after posting mine

How can i enable the "blank this item" option? it is greyed out

jdobbs
7th April 2010, 17:39
is it compatible to encode the rest and then add the data from tsmuxer myself into the structure without the main movie? No. Read my last post... final warning.

user822
7th April 2010, 17:45
No. Read my last post... final warning.

yep I posted mine before having a chance to read yours, sorry for that!

so far ok, one mroe question:
How can i enable the "blank this item" option? it is greyed out

jdobbs
7th April 2010, 18:09
yep I posted mine before having a chance to read yours, sorry for that!

so far ok, one mroe question:
How can i enable the "blank this item" option? it is greyed out It's there as a placeholder, I haven't implemented it yet. I probably should have just hidden it.

no.1_dark_knight
7th April 2010, 23:51
Encoded this with my normal settings, keep English audio and subtitles, custom target size = 23800. Plenty of space on the drive, encoder high quality
final size after rebuild = 16.4 GB (17,625,186,304 bytes)
thanks

here's the log file
[20:21:39] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: SNOW.WHITE.AND.THE.SEVEN.DWARFS
- Input BD size: 33.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:14:21.553]
- Target BD size: 23.24 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:21:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:21:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00054]
- [20:21:44] Reencoding: VID_00054 (1 of 48)
- [20:21:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 359 frames
- Bitrate: 11,175 Kbs
- [20:21:44] Reencoding: VID_00054, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:21:57] Reencoding: VID_00054, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:22:20] Video Encode complete
- [20:22:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:22:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:22:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [20:22:22] Reencoding: VID_00094 (2 of 48)
- [20:22:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 76 frames
- Bitrate: 10,977 Kbs
- [20:22:22] Reencoding: VID_00094, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:22:25] Reencoding: VID_00094, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:22:31] Video Encode complete
- [20:22:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:22:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:22:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [20:22:33] Reencoding: VID_00095 (3 of 48)
- [20:22:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 161 frames
- Bitrate: 11,165 Kbs
- [20:22:33] Reencoding: VID_00095, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:22:40] Reencoding: VID_00095, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:22:53] Video Encode complete
- [20:22:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:22:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:22:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00121]
- [20:22:55] Reencoding: VID_00121 (4 of 48)
- [20:22:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
- Bitrate: 11,512 Kbs
- [20:22:55] Reencoding: VID_00121, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:23:03] Reencoding: VID_00121, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:23:22] Video Encode complete
- [20:23:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:23:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:23:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00122]
- [20:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00122 (5 of 48)
- [20:23:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,824 frames
- Bitrate: 16,402 Kbs
- [20:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00122, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:25:14] Reencoding: VID_00122, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:30:26] Video Encode complete
- [20:30:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:30:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:30:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [20:30:31] Reencoding: VID_00123 (6 of 48)
- [20:30:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
- Bitrate: 10,834 Kbs
- [20:30:31] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:30:38] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:31:04] Video Encode complete
- [20:31:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:31:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:31:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00124]
- [20:31:26] Reencoding: VID_00124 (7 of 48)
- [20:31:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,674 frames
- Bitrate: 17,009 Kbs
- [20:31:26] Reencoding: VID_00124, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:34:14] Reencoding: VID_00124, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:43:25] Video Encode complete
- [20:43:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:43:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:43:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00125]
- [20:43:33] Reencoding: VID_00125 (8 of 48)
- [20:43:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
- Bitrate: 10,822 Kbs
- [20:43:33] Reencoding: VID_00125, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:43:41] Reencoding: VID_00125, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:44:03] Video Encode complete
- [20:44:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:44:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:44:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00126]
- [20:44:16] Reencoding: VID_00126 (9 of 48)
- [20:44:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,136 frames
- Bitrate: 17,123 Kbs
- [20:44:16] Reencoding: VID_00126, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:46:02] Reencoding: VID_00126, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:51:29] Video Encode complete
- [20:51:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:51:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:51:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00127]
- [20:51:44] Reencoding: VID_00127 (10 of 48)
- [20:51:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,728 frames
- Bitrate: 17,597 Kbs
- [20:51:44] Reencoding: VID_00127, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:53:05] Reencoding: VID_00127, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:58:18] Video Encode complete
- [20:58:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:58:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:58:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00129]
- [20:58:43] Reencoding: VID_00129 (11 of 48)
- [20:58:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,648 frames
- Bitrate: 15,982 Kbs
- [20:58:43] Reencoding: VID_00129, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:01:39] Reencoding: VID_00129, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:10:50] Video Encode complete
- [21:10:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:10:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:10:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
- [21:11:04] Reencoding: VID_00130 (12 of 48)
- [21:11:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,224 frames
- Bitrate: 15,074 Kbs
- [21:11:04] Reencoding: VID_00130, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:12:02] Reencoding: VID_00130, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:15:03] Video Encode complete
- [21:15:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:15:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:15:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00131]
- [21:15:19] Reencoding: VID_00131 (13 of 48)
- [21:15:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,232 frames
- Bitrate: 15,636 Kbs
- [21:15:19] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:17:00] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:23:16] Video Encode complete
- [21:23:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:23:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:23:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00132]
- [21:23:34] Reencoding: VID_00132 (14 of 48)
- [21:23:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,304 frames
- Bitrate: 16,492 Kbs
- [21:23:34] Reencoding: VID_00132, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:25:37] Reencoding: VID_00132, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:32:43] Video Encode complete
- [21:32:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:32:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:32:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00133]
- [21:33:02] Reencoding: VID_00133 (15 of 48)
- [21:33:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,448 frames
- Bitrate: 16,828 Kbs
- [21:33:02] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:35:38] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:43:40] Video Encode complete
- [21:43:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:43:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:43:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00134]
- [21:43:50] Reencoding: VID_00134 (16 of 48)
- [21:43:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 768 frames
- Bitrate: 16,932 Kbs
- [21:43:50] Reencoding: VID_00134, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:44:30] Reencoding: VID_00134, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:47:11] Video Encode complete
- [21:47:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:47:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:47:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00137]
- [21:47:57] Reencoding: VID_00137 (17 of 48)
- [21:47:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,156 frames
- Bitrate: 11,572 Kbs
- [21:47:57] Reencoding: VID_00137, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:58:38] Reencoding: VID_00137, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:29:02] Video Encode complete
- [22:29:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:29:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:29:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00138]
- [22:30:12] Reencoding: VID_00138 (18 of 48)
- [22:30:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,146 frames
- Bitrate: 18,112 Kbs
- [22:30:12] Reencoding: VID_00138, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:34:37] Reencoding: VID_00138, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:50:12] Video Encode complete
- [22:50:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:50:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:50:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00139]
- [22:51:20] Reencoding: VID_00139 (19 of 48)
- [22:51:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,574 frames
- Bitrate: 11,110 Kbs
- [22:51:20] Reencoding: VID_00139, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:01:26] Reencoding: VID_00139, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:28:37] Video Encode complete
- [23:28:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:28:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:29:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00207]
- [23:29:08] Reencoding: VID_00207 (20 of 48)
- [23:29:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,537 frames
- Bitrate: 10,937 Kbs
- [23:29:08] Reencoding: VID_00207, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:30:35] Reencoding: VID_00207, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:33:55] Video Encode complete
- [23:33:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:33:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:33:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00211]
- [23:33:59] Reencoding: VID_00211 (21 of 48)
- [23:33:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 77 frames
- Bitrate: 11,356 Kbs
- [23:33:59] Reencoding: VID_00211, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:34:03] Reencoding: VID_00211, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:34:13] Video Encode complete
- [23:34:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:34:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:34:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00214]
- [23:34:14] Reencoding: VID_00214 (22 of 48)
- [23:34:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,761 Kbs
- [23:34:14] Reencoding: VID_00214, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:34:18] Reencoding: VID_00214, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:34:27] Video Encode complete
- [23:34:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:34:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:34:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00217]
- [23:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00217 (23 of 48)
- [23:34:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,599 Kbs
- [23:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00217, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:34:33] Reencoding: VID_00217, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:34:42] Video Encode complete
- [23:34:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:34:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:34:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00220]
- [23:34:43] Reencoding: VID_00220 (24 of 48)
- [23:34:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 72 frames
- Bitrate: 11,234 Kbs
- [23:34:43] Reencoding: VID_00220, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:34:47] Reencoding: VID_00220, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:34:57] Video Encode complete
- [23:34:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:34:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:34:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00223]
- [23:34:58] Reencoding: VID_00223 (25 of 48)
- [23:34:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,580 Kbs
- [23:34:58] Reencoding: VID_00223, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:35:02] Reencoding: VID_00223, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:35:11] Video Encode complete
- [23:35:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:35:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:35:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00226]
- [23:35:13] Reencoding: VID_00226 (26 of 48)
- [23:35:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,409 Kbs
- [23:35:13] Reencoding: VID_00226, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:35:17] Reencoding: VID_00226, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:35:26] Video Encode complete
- [23:35:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:35:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:35:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00229]
- [23:35:27] Reencoding: VID_00229 (27 of 48)
- [23:35:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,485 Kbs
- [23:35:27] Reencoding: VID_00229, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:35:32] Reencoding: VID_00229, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:35:41] Video Encode complete
- [23:35:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:35:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:35:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00232]
- [23:35:42] Reencoding: VID_00232 (28 of 48)
- [23:35:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,561 Kbs
- [23:35:42] Reencoding: VID_00232, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:35:46] Reencoding: VID_00232, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:35:56] Video Encode complete
- [23:35:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:35:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:35:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00235]
- [23:35:57] Reencoding: VID_00235 (29 of 48)
- [23:35:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,656 Kbs
- [23:35:57] Reencoding: VID_00235, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:36:01] Reencoding: VID_00235, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:36:10] Video Encode complete
- [23:36:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:36:10] Multiplexing M2TS

no.1_dark_knight
7th April 2010, 23:51
- [23:36:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00238]
- [23:36:12] Reencoding: VID_00238 (30 of 48)
- [23:36:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,494 Kbs
- [23:36:12] Reencoding: VID_00238, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:36:16] Reencoding: VID_00238, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:36:25] Video Encode complete
- [23:36:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:36:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:36:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00241]
- [23:36:27] Reencoding: VID_00241 (31 of 48)
- [23:36:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,485 Kbs
- [23:36:27] Reencoding: VID_00241, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:36:31] Reencoding: VID_00241, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:36:40] Video Encode complete
- [23:36:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:36:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:36:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00244]
- [23:36:41] Reencoding: VID_00244 (32 of 48)
- [23:36:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,542 Kbs
- [23:36:41] Reencoding: VID_00244, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:36:45] Reencoding: VID_00244, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:36:55] Video Encode complete
- [23:36:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:36:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:36:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00247]
- [23:36:56] Reencoding: VID_00247 (33 of 48)
- [23:36:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,447 Kbs
- [23:36:56] Reencoding: VID_00247, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:37:00] Reencoding: VID_00247, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:37:10] Video Encode complete
- [23:37:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:37:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:37:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00250]
- [23:37:11] Reencoding: VID_00250 (34 of 48)
- [23:37:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,437 Kbs
- [23:37:11] Reencoding: VID_00250, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:37:15] Reencoding: VID_00250, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:37:24] Video Encode complete
- [23:37:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:37:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:37:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00253]
- [23:37:25] Reencoding: VID_00253 (35 of 48)
- [23:37:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,561 Kbs
- [23:37:25] Reencoding: VID_00253, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:37:29] Reencoding: VID_00253, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:37:39] Video Encode complete
- [23:37:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:37:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:37:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00256]
- [23:37:40] Reencoding: VID_00256 (36 of 48)
- [23:37:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,704 Kbs
- [23:37:40] Reencoding: VID_00256, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:37:44] Reencoding: VID_00256, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:37:53] Video Encode complete
- [23:37:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:37:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:37:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00259]
- [23:37:55] Reencoding: VID_00259 (37 of 48)
- [23:37:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73 frames
- Bitrate: 11,532 Kbs
- [23:37:55] Reencoding: VID_00259, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:37:59] Reencoding: VID_00259, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:38:08] Video Encode complete
- [23:38:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:38:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:38:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00262]
- [23:38:09] Reencoding: VID_00262 (38 of 48)
- [23:38:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 72 frames
- Bitrate: 10,230 Kbs
- [23:38:09] Reencoding: VID_00262, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:38:13] Reencoding: VID_00262, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:38:22] Video Encode complete
- [23:38:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:38:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:38:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00265]
- [23:38:23] Reencoding: VID_00265 (39 of 48)
- [23:38:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 72 frames
- Bitrate: 10,896 Kbs
- [23:38:23] Reencoding: VID_00265, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:38:27] Reencoding: VID_00265, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:38:36] Video Encode complete
- [23:38:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:38:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:38:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00268]
- [23:38:37] Reencoding: VID_00268 (40 of 48)
- [23:38:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 71 frames
- Bitrate: 10,817 Kbs
- [23:38:37] Reencoding: VID_00268, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:38:41] Reencoding: VID_00268, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:38:50] Video Encode complete
- [23:38:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:38:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:38:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00271]
- [23:38:51] Reencoding: VID_00271 (41 of 48)
- [23:38:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 72 frames
- Bitrate: 10,954 Kbs
- [23:38:51] Reencoding: VID_00271, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:38:55] Reencoding: VID_00271, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:39:04] Video Encode complete
- [23:39:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:39:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:39:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00274]
- [23:39:05] Reencoding: VID_00274 (42 of 48)
- [23:39:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 71 frames
- Bitrate: 10,944 Kbs
- [23:39:05] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:39:09] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:39:17] Video Encode complete
- [23:39:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:39:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:39:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00277]
- [23:39:19] Reencoding: VID_00277 (43 of 48)
- [23:39:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 71 frames
- Bitrate: 10,621 Kbs
- [23:39:19] Reencoding: VID_00277, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:39:23] Reencoding: VID_00277, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:39:32] Video Encode complete
- [23:39:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:39:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:39:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00279]
- [23:39:33] Reencoding: VID_00279 (44 of 48)
- [23:39:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 72 frames
- Bitrate: 10,230 Kbs
- [23:39:33] Reencoding: VID_00279, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:39:37] Reencoding: VID_00279, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:39:46] Video Encode complete
- [23:39:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:39:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:39:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00307]
- [23:52:26] Reencoding: VID_00307 (45 of 48)
- [23:52:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 119,670 frames
- Bitrate: 13,960 Kbs
- [23:52:26] Reencoding: VID_00307, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:29:34] Reencoding: VID_00307, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:42:55] Video Encode complete
- [05:42:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:42:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:50:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00312]
- [05:51:28] Reencoding: VID_00312 (46 of 48)
- [05:51:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,323 frames
- Bitrate: 11,051 Kbs
- [05:51:28] Reencoding: VID_00312, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:03:32] Reencoding: VID_00312, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:24:11] Video Encode complete
- [06:24:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:24:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:24:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00313]
- [06:24:45] Reencoding: VID_00313 (47 of 48)
- [06:24:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,929 frames
- Bitrate: 11,066 Kbs
- [06:24:45] Reencoding: VID_00313, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:29:15] Reencoding: VID_00313, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:42:44] Video Encode complete
- [06:42:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:42:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:42:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00322]
- [06:43:04] Reencoding: VID_00322 (48 of 48)
- [06:43:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,118 frames
- Bitrate: 12,263 Kbs
- [06:43:04] Reencoding: VID_00322, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:45:20] Reencoding: VID_00322, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:51:07] Video Encode complete
- [06:51:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:51:07] Multiplexing M2TS
[06:51:12]PHASE ONE complete
[06:51:12]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:51:12] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[06:53:18] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[06:53:18] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[07:03:53]JOB: SNOW.WHITE.AND.THE.SEVEN.DWARFS. finished.
-----------------------
Here's the ini file

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SOURCE_SIZE=35441215864
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=28654036992
TARGET_SIZE=24956108800
REDUCTION=.634079237528472
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=48
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
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AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=22918890
RATE=11175
NSIZE=22757376
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00094]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4768438
RATE=10977
NSIZE=4577280
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[00095]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=10269284
RATE=11165
NSIZE=10211328
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[00121]
AUDIO=10
PGS=0
M2TS_TARGET=11305562
RATE=11512
NSIZE=10745856
FLINK=0
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[00122]
AUDIO=10
PGS=0
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RATE=16402
NSIZE=167872512
FLINK=0
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[00123]
AUDIO=10
PGS=0
M2TS_TARGET=10666653
RATE=10834
NSIZE=10905600
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00124]
AUDIO=10
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=360480682
RATE=17009
NSIZE=348678144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00125]
AUDIO=10
PGS=0
M2TS_TARGET=10654966
RATE=10822
NSIZE=10874880
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00126]
AUDIO=10
PGS=0
M2TS_TARGET=210948849
RATE=17123
NSIZE=205608960
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00127]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=175247895
RATE=17597
NSIZE=170600448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00129]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=336926779
RATE=15982
NSIZE=328243200
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00130]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=106818470
RATE=15074
NSIZE=103311360
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00131]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=201817134
RATE=15636
NSIZE=198586368
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00132]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=219383219
RATE=16492
NSIZE=213497856
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00133]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=237708981
RATE=16828
NSIZE=232015872
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00134]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=75024986
RATE=16932
NSIZE=75466752
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00137]
AUDIO=100
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=758816685
RATE=11572
NSIZE=734754816
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00138]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=536753167
RATE=18112
NSIZE=520998912
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00139]
AUDIO=1
PGS=100
M2TS_TARGET=805012878
RATE=11110
NSIZE=786413568
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00207]
AUDIO=1
PGS=100
M2TS_TARGET=99026904
RATE=10937
NSIZE=95883264
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00211]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4994394
RATE=11356
NSIZE=4651008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00214]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4900895
RATE=11761
NSIZE=4638720
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00217]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4834666
RATE=11599
NSIZE=4546560
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00220]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4620398
RATE=11234
NSIZE=4263936
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00223]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4826875
RATE=11580
NSIZE=4589568
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00226]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4756751
RATE=11409
NSIZE=4460544
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00229]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4787917
RATE=11485
NSIZE=4583424
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00232]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4819083
RATE=11561
NSIZE=4497408
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00235]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4858041
RATE=11656
NSIZE=4583424
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00238]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4791813
RATE=11494
NSIZE=4509696
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00241]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4787917
RATE=11485
NSIZE=4503552
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00244]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4811292
RATE=11542
NSIZE=4515840
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00247]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4772334
RATE=11447
NSIZE=4497408
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00250]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4768438
RATE=11437
NSIZE=4429824
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00253]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4819083
RATE=11561
NSIZE=4485120
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00256]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4877520
RATE=11704
NSIZE=4583424
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00259]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4807396
RATE=11532
NSIZE=4589568
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00262]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4215237
RATE=10230
NSIZE=4012032
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00265]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4484046
RATE=10896
NSIZE=4319232
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00268]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4390547
RATE=10817
NSIZE=4202496
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00271]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4507421
RATE=10954
NSIZE=4337664
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00274]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4441192
RATE=10944
NSIZE=4245504
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00277]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4312632
RATE=10621
NSIZE=4073472
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00279]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4215237
RATE=10230
NSIZE=4325376
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00307]
AUDIO=10011
PGS=10000100
M2TS_TARGET=12505544713
RATE=13960
NSIZE=12109418496
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00312]
AUDIO=1
PGS=100
M2TS_TARGET=589591670
RATE=11051
NSIZE=575170560
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00313]
AUDIO=1
PGS=100
M2TS_TARGET=376009272
RATE=11066
NSIZE=367570944
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00322]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=218070340
RATE=12263
NSIZE=212600832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

no.1_dark_knight
7th April 2010, 23:56
After further investigation it doesn't look like it copied everything from the source for the rebuild. all the blu-ray directories are empty, only the video that was encoded is included in the output. can i do a straight copy of the missing files? thanks

I copied over the missing files and rebuilt the image and it seems to play fine, not sure what happened, everything seemed to go ok except the copy of the remaining blu-ray source files.

chompy
9th April 2010, 08:18
In x264 revision 1523 has been fixed HRD compliance, does it mean that backups made with BD-RB v0.33.02 could potentially have some kind of incompatibilities with blu-ray standard?

Is then recommended / save use this new x264 revision until you release a new version of BD-RB?

Greetings

Dark Shikari
9th April 2010, 09:25
In x264 revision 1523 has been fixed HRD compliance, does it mean that backups made with BD-RB v0.33.02 could potentially have some kind of incompatibilities with blu-ray standard?BD-rebuilder has never been fully compatible with the Blu-ray spec. r1523 is the first revision of x264 to be fully compatible--we think. Obviously there could still be a bug or two.

datman
9th April 2010, 13:58
I"m re-doing this movie. After it was done it looks like 33.02 sticks an extra mpls in there that's part of the extras.

00047 is wrong and not shown in BDedit

I'm using tssplitter now, which may have been how I did it before

edit; actually there are several 47, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20 and 21 they are nearly every other one placed incorrectly

jdobbs
9th April 2010, 14:38
In x264 revision 1523 has been fixed HRD compliance, does it mean that backups made with BD-RB v0.33.02 could potentially have some kind of incompatibilities with blu-ray standard?

Is then recommended / save use this new x264 revision until you release a new version of BD-RB?

Greetings I wouldn't worry about it... but, yes, you should be able to replace r1510 with r1523. From my DVD experience I can say that there are likely a lot of commercial discs that aren't 100% compliant as well. Players have to be "robust" against some "less-than-clear" specs.

jdobbs
9th April 2010, 14:42
I"m re-doing this movie. After it was done it looks like 33.02 sticks an extra mpls in there that's part of the extras.

00047 is wrong and not shown in BDedit

I'm using tssplitter now, which may have been how I did it before

edit; actually there are several 47, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20 and 21 they are nearly every other one placed incorrectly

BD Rebuilder gets it's information about seamless branching from the MPLS. I'm not sure how it could "stick an extra one in there". I assume you mean M2TS?

It would sure be easier to debug if I had some logs... I don't even know if it was BD-5, BD-25, version of BD-RB being used, movie-only or full backup... in other words I'd have to be a psychic to try and address your report.

Please, everyone, try to make your bug reports at least a little informative.

datman
9th April 2010, 14:57
BD Rebuilder gets it's information about seamless branching from the MPLS. I'm not sure how it could "stick an extra one in there". I assume you mean M2TS?

It would sure be easier to debug if I had some logs... I don't even know if it was BD-5, BD-25, version of BD-RB being used, movie-only or full backup... in other words I'd have to be a psychic to try and address your report.

Please, everyone, try to make your bug reports at least a little informative.

[Status]
LABEL=DEJA_VU
VERSION=v0.33.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=38432274432
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=38432274432
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.215814345692066
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=23
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00048]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=111111
M2TS_TARGET=267908241
RATE=5891
NSIZE=235554816
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00047]
M2TS_TARGET=205248517
RATE=5032
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=178237440
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00049]

-----------------------
[16:50:36] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: DEJA_VU
- Input BD size: 35.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:43:58.495]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=448
[16:50:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:50:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00048]
- [17:16:49] Reencoding: VID_00048 (1 of 23)
- [17:16:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,290 frames
- Bitrate: 5,891 Kbs
- [17:16:49] Reencoding: VID_00048, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:21:40] Reencoding: VID_00048, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:33:22] Video Encode complete
- [17:33:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:38:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:38:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00047]
- [17:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00047 (2 of 23)
- [17:39:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,453 frames
- Bitrate: 5,032 Kbs
- [17:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:44:01] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:54:59] Video Encode complete
- [17:54:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:55:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00049]
- [17:56:23] Reencoding: VID_00049 (3 of 23)
- [17:56:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,137 frames
- Bitrate: 5,770 Kbs
- [17:56:23] Reencoding: VID_00049, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:02:39] Reencoding: VID_00049, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:17:48] Video Encode complete
- [18:17:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:18:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [18:18:41] Reencoding: VID_00014 (4 of 23)
- [18:18:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,668 frames
- Bitrate: 5,860 Kbs
- [18:18:41] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:22:01] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:30:22] Video Encode complete
- [18:30:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:30:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00035]
- [18:31:40] Reencoding: VID_00035 (5 of 23)
- [18:31:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,124 frames
- Bitrate: 5,886 Kbs
- [18:31:40] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:37:16] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:50:47] Video Encode complete
- [18:50:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:50:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [18:51:30] Reencoding: VID_00015 (6 of 23)
- [18:51:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,580 frames
- Bitrate: 5,836 Kbs
- [18:51:30] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:54:13] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:00:25] Video Encode complete
- [19:00:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:00:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
- [19:03:24] Reencoding: VID_00037 (7 of 23)
- [19:03:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 20,424 frames
- Bitrate: 5,874 Kbs
- [19:03:24] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:16:50] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:50:33] Video Encode complete
- [19:50:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:51:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [19:52:08] Reencoding: VID_00016 (8 of 23)
- [19:52:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,171 frames
- Bitrate: 5,926 Kbs
- [19:52:08] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:55:44] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:04:58] Video Encode complete
- [20:04:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:05:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [20:06:36] Reencoding: VID_00039 (9 of 23)
- [20:06:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,586 frames
- Bitrate: 5,845 Kbs
- [20:06:36] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:13:46] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:30:48] Video Encode complete
- [20:30:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:31:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
- [20:32:28] Reencoding: VID_00061 (10 of 23)
- [20:32:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,636 frames
- Bitrate: 5,789 Kbs
- [20:32:28] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:38:21] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:52:24] Video Encode complete
- [20:52:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:52:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [20:53:18] Reencoding: VID_00017 (11 of 23)
- [20:53:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,649 frames
- Bitrate: 5,913 Kbs
- [20:53:18] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:56:28] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:04:59] Video Encode complete
- [21:04:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:05:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [21:08:47] Reencoding: VID_00032 (12 of 23)
- [21:08:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 26,672 frames
- Bitrate: 5,802 Kbs
- [21:08:47] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:26:51] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:10:17] Video Encode complete
- [22:10:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:11:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [22:12:04] Reencoding: VID_00018 (13 of 23)
- [22:12:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,556 frames
- Bitrate: 4,043 Kbs
- [22:12:04] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:17:20] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:28:52] Video Encode complete
- [22:28:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:29:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [22:29:48] Reencoding: VID_00034 (14 of 23)
- [22:29:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,720 frames
- Bitrate: 5,778 Kbs
- [22:29:48] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:33:40] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:43:43] Video Encode complete
- [22:43:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:43:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00046]
- [22:44:22] Reencoding: VID_00046 (15 of 23)
- [22:44:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,646 frames
- Bitrate: 5,780 Kbs
- [22:44:22] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:46:52] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:53:17] Video Encode complete
- [22:53:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:53:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [22:54:10] Reencoding: VID_00062 (16 of 23)
- [22:54:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,459 frames
- Bitrate: 5,014 Kbs
- [22:54:10] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:58:44] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:08:57] Video Encode complete
- [23:08:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:09:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00036]
- [23:10:28] Reencoding: VID_00036 (17 of 23)
- [23:10:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,362 frames
- Bitrate: 6,037 Kbs
- [23:10:28] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:16:47] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:32:35] Video Encode complete
- [23:32:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:32:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [23:33:36] Reencoding: VID_00020 (18 of 23)
- [23:33:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,777 frames
- Bitrate: 4,837 Kbs
- [23:33:37] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:38:29] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:49:36] Video Encode complete
- [23:49:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:49:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [23:52:42] Reencoding: VID_00038 (19 of 23)
- [23:52:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 20,903 frames
- Bitrate: 5,781 Kbs
- [23:52:42] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:06:26] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:40:18] Video Encode complete
- [00:40:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:41:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [00:41:49] Reencoding: VID_00021 (20 of 23)
- [00:41:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,910 frames
- Bitrate: 5,872 Kbs
- [00:41:50] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:45:14] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:54:20] Video Encode complete
- [00:54:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:54:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [00:58:13] Reencoding: VID_00040 (21 of 23)
- [00:58:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 26,472 frames
- Bitrate: 5,924 Kbs
- [00:58:13] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:15:20] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:00:40] Video Encode complete
- [02:00:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:01:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [02:02:18] Reencoding: VID_00022 (22 of 23)
- [02:02:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,760 frames
- Bitrate: 5,838 Kbs
- [02:02:18] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:04:57] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:11:45] Video Encode complete
- [02:11:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:11:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [02:14:46] Reencoding: VID_00041 (23 of 23)
- [02:14:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 24,933 frames
- Bitrate: 4,846 Kbs
- [02:14:46] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:29:29] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:00:04] Video Encode complete
- [03:00:04] Multiplexing M2TS
[03:00:52]PHASE ONE complete
[03:00:52]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [03:00:52] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[03:14:23] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[03:14:23]JOB: DEJA_VU finished.
==========================
[03:14:23] END - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

jdobbs
9th April 2010, 15:10
@datman

Thanks. :)

chompy
9th April 2010, 15:20
BD-rebuilder has never been fully compatible with the Blu-ray spec. r1523 is the first revision of x264 to be fully compatible--we think. Obviously there could still be a bug or two.

I wouldn't worry about it... but, yes, you should be able to replace r1510 with r1523. From my DVD experience I can say that there are likely a lot of commercial discs that aren't 100% compliant as well. Players have to be "robust" against some "less-than-clear" specs.

:thanks::thanks:

8ternity
9th April 2010, 17:49
I have an question. Did Avisynth .2.5.8 can be used with BD Rebuilder or we albsolutely need 2.5.7 version?

Space@pe
9th April 2010, 18:38
can anyone tell me why all of my extras are encoded? the avs file looks like this:

AssumeFieldBased().AssumeTFF()
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace()
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)

and the others:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00071.track_4357.ac3").Amplify(1.2)

the main movie doesn't get encoded and only multiplexed i made sure
of that by unchecking some audio..so why is it needed for the extras?

btw. found a small bug. the max space on a bd-25 is 23866 MiB but
i need to put in a custom target size of about 24435 Megabytes to
get it use that in bd rebuilder. so i guess it's calculating wrong or
something.

noob here i guess hehe :D thanx

edit: is it because they are interlaced(480i)?..anyway solved it by
unchecking all but the english tracks. the only 1080p clip stil wants
to convert but not the 480i clips. confused lol but i know it is a beta
thanx for a great tool anyway :)

jdobbs
9th April 2010, 19:33
I have an question. Did Avisynth .2.5.8 can be used with BD Rebuilder or we albsolutely need 2.5.7 version?

I've gotten mixed reports. Some people report using BD-RB on 2.5.8 with no issues. Others experienced problems -- and reported that they went away with no changes except reinstalling to 2.5.7.

woodman
9th April 2010, 19:39
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[23:42:03] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: THE_HURT_LOCKER
- Input BD size: 36.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:47:39.689]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640

Just done a full backup of the Hurt Locker and I’m still getting jerky/shuddering playback on my Sony BDP-S300 standalone player, it happens when the film is panning and only seems to happen with the movie not the extras. The film plays fine on my PC using WMP11. Some films I have backed up play perfect, Star Trek/District 9/Transporter 3. All the films I backup are done on BD25, I test on BD-RE, I have tested on a Samsung BD-1400 and it’s the same, I’m not getting any errors with BD-Rebuilder. Not sure what else to do, it seems random. The Sony player plays the original discs ok and the Traxdata BD-R I use. I have the latest firmware on the player.
Has anyone else had a similar problem?

jdobbs
9th April 2010, 21:32
I have updated the first link of this thread with a new link to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.33.03). Changes for this version:- Moved the reporting from "INSPECT.EXE" into BD-RB so
it will be activated after any encoding failure.
- Made tweaks to the "Automatic Quality Settings" that
adjusts a little more finely based on source size.
- Corrected an error in which movie-only alternate
output could error when the original satisfied the
output sizing "no reencode necessary" criteria.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1523).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

jdobbs
9th April 2010, 21:33
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[23:42:03] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: THE_HURT_LOCKER
- Input BD size: 36.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:47:39.689]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640

Just done a full backup of the Hurt Locker and I’m still getting jerky/shuddering playback on my Sony BDP-S300 standalone player, it happens when the film is panning and only seems to happen with the movie not the extras. The film plays fine on my PC using WMP11. Some films I have backed up play perfect, Star Trek/District 9/Transporter 3. All the films I backup are done on BD25, I test on BD-RE, I have tested on a Samsung BD-1400 and it’s the same, I’m not getting any errors with BD-Rebuilder. Not sure what else to do, it seems random. The Sony player plays the original discs ok and the Traxdata BD-R I use. I have the latest firmware on the player.
Has anyone else had a similar problem? I'm not, and I'ver watched a backup of that movie on my Sony S360.

gerald410
9th April 2010, 21:49
Hi when I try to use your latest version 33.03 I receive a run time error 11 division by zero message when opening it. Win 7 x64 os thx
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.3, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

AGKnotUser
9th April 2010, 22:07
I get the same error with Win7 32 bit.

is0tope
9th April 2010, 22:11
Same as with Win7 64bit.

Paddy97
9th April 2010, 22:17
Hi when I try to use your latest version 33.03 I receive a run time error 11 division by zero message when opening it. Win 7 x64 os thx
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.3, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

I got the same. Disappeared when I put a BD disc in the reader. Try mounting an ISO or putting a disc in your reader.

jdobbs
9th April 2010, 22:17
Hmmm... I obviously screwed the pooch on that compile. I'll fix it and upload again. This is really weird.

jdobbs
9th April 2010, 23:03
I have updated the first link of this thread with a new link to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.33.04). Changes for this version:- Moved the reporting from "INSPECT.EXE" into BD-RB so
it will be activated after any encoding failure.
- Made tweaks to the "Automatic Quality Settings" that
adjusts a little more finely based on source size.
- Corrected an error in which movie-only alternate
output could error when the original satisfied the
output sizing "no reencode necessary" criteria.
- Corrected a bug introduced in v0.33.03 that would
result in runtime error 11.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1523).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Sorry about the confusion on v0.33.03...

gerald410
9th April 2010, 23:47
I have updated the first link of this thread with a new link to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.33.04). Changes for this version:- Moved the reporting from "INSPECT.EXE" into BD-RB so
it will be activated after any encoding failure.
- Made tweaks to the "Automatic Quality Settings" that
adjusts a little more finely based on source size.
- Corrected an error in which movie-only alternate
output could error when the original satisfied the
output sizing "no reencode necessary" criteria.
- Corrected a bug introduced in v0.33.03 that would
result in runtime error 11.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1523).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Sorry about the confusion on v0.33.03...
Thx for your great program:) Can't wait to begin testing lol

woodman
10th April 2010, 00:14
I'm not, and I'ver watched a backup of that movie on my Sony S360.

Thanks jdobbs; I was thinking of buying the S360, it might fix a lot of the playback isues

Shuttle99
10th April 2010, 00:43
Not sure whats going on I just installed 33.04 and am converting a movie only to DVD9 and both progress bars are identical like its going to do 1 pass, unlike they have been where the overall lagged behind for a 2 pass? Now lookking aT BDrebuilder it does say its going to be 1 pass. This must be something new in this version because I didn't change any of the settings. Will this be Ok compared to a 2 pass?

jdobbs
10th April 2010, 02:07
Not sure whats going on I just installed 33.04 and am converting a movie only to DVD9 and both progress bars are identical like its going to do 1 pass, unlike they have been where the overall lagged behind for a 2 pass? Now lookking aT BDrebuilder it does say its going to be 1 pass. This must be something new in this version because I didn't change any of the settings. Will this be Ok compared to a 2 pass? That's very possible if you have "Automatic" checked as I use a formula for the settings that is based on the output size. It should be fine -- but make sure you give me feedback if it's not so I can make more adjustments. I'm trying to make "Automatic" do some of the thinking needed so time can be saved. If you want to force two-pass, just unselect "Automatic" and unclick the "One Pass ABR" option"

Shuttle99
10th April 2010, 02:14
Will do, I have always had the automatic selected and it has lways done 2 pas on dvd9 so this is the first time it has ever done a 1 pass. 28 gig normally does 2 pass in about 5 hours but one pass took only 2 hours. I am burning now and will watch it and hope it works good because that will save a lot of time.

jdobbs
10th April 2010, 02:27
Will do, I have always had the automatic selected and it has lways done 2 pas on dvd9 so this is the first time it has ever done a 1 pass. 28 gig normally does 2 pass in about 5 hours but one pass took only 2 hours. I am burning now and will watch it and hope it works good because that will save a lot of time. I've been tweaking it to try and always choose the best balance of speed and quality. There is also a hidden option that can adjust BD-RB's bias in "Automatic" mode. It's documented in the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file:

AUTO_BIAS=n

n = 0/1/2 - Default= 1, Auto Quality bias, 0=higher speed, 1=normal, 2=higher quality

x400
10th April 2010, 07:33
Hi i just tried this program, it converted my bd perfectly (it was only a 27gb file i shrunk down for a bd-25)

However, my computer has no Sound anymore when trying to play Video files.... no program will play a video file, the video plays just the sound is nil

i can still have sounds from say mp3's and windows sounds (test file sounds work as well for the speakers) youtube works too

its just my avi's mkv's m2ts etc

Discoboy
10th April 2010, 10:19
They should work the same way whether resized or no... but maybe I missed something. I'll take a look.

Hi Jdobbs,

Did you find anytime to look at this issue of the forced subs missing after resizing from 1080p to 720p?

I tested the latest v0.33.04 (beta) and the forced subs are still not display separately from the main subs. Forced subs are still working correctly if 1080p size in not resized down to 720p.

A good latest movie to test on is "2012" at 1hr:19mins where they talk in Chinese.

Many thanks

jdobbs
10th April 2010, 13:58
Hi i just tried this program, it converted my bd perfectly (it was only a 27gb file i shrunk down for a bd-25)

However, my computer has no Sound anymore when trying to play Video files.... no program will play a video file, the video plays just the sound is nil

i can still have sounds from say mp3's and windows sounds (test file sounds work as well for the speakers) youtube works too

its just my avi's mkv's m2ts etc It has to be something outside of BD-RB. I'd look at any other installations or configuration changes you may have made recentely. BD Rebuilder makes no changes to your system related to audio at all. It doesn't even use the system codecs to decode audio, it uses NicAudio.dll via AVISYNTH.

You may also want to check FFDSHOW's audio configuration and see what is and is not enabled.

jdobbs
10th April 2010, 19:44
Hi Jdobbs,

Did you find anytime to look at this issue of the forced subs missing after resizing from 1080p to 720p?

I tested the latest v0.33.04 (beta) and the forced subs are still not display separately from the main subs. Forced subs are still working correctly if 1080p size in not resized down to 720p.

A good latest movie to test on is "2012" at 1hr:19mins where they talk in Chinese.

Many thanks Was it a movie-only encode where you had to select the sub to default on, or a full backup?

Discoboy
10th April 2010, 20:30
I’ve never used BD_RB to default the subs to be on. I just select the main English sub which will include the forced subs in it.

I only ever run movie only projects.

For a 1080p movie only project the forced subs only will automatically be shown on my players.

For a 720p resized movie only project the forced subs will not automatically be shown. You have to additionally select the subs to be shown by the player, but then the players shows all subs and not just the forced subs and so not want I wanted to archive.

It seems to me that during BD_RB’s resizing the subs are resized but the forced subs are somehow not being defaulted to being ON separately when played on a player.

I hope the above make sense to you?

If you need more info just ask?

jdobbs
10th April 2010, 21:24
I’ve never used BD_RB to default the subs to be on. I just select the main English sub which will include the forced subs in it.

I only ever run movie only projects.

For a 1080p movie only project the forced subs only will automatically be shown on my players.

For a 720p resized movie only project the forced subs will not automatically be shown. You have to additionally select the subs to be shown by the player, but then the players shows all subs and not just the forced subs and so not want I wanted to archive.

It seems to me that during BD_RB’s resizing the subs are resized but the forced subs are somehow not being defaulted to being ON separately when played on a player.

I hope the above make sense to you?

If you need more info just ask? Hmmm... I'll have to think about this one and do some research. I didn't think any subs could force on (except hard subs that are in the film) in a movie-only encode by default (I have to tell it do to so).

Discoboy
10th April 2010, 21:42
If it helps you to locate the problem and or a work around for it. I’ve found that RipBot264 seems to have a way around this issue:

When using Ripbot264 to process this movie and after extracting the subs if there are any forced subs it creates 2 separate sub files for selection and loading into the encoding project i.e. subs and forced_subs.

So you can just select the forced_subs and not the main subs.

If you then want to resize from 1080p to 720p, RipBot automatically resizes the forced_subs file for you.

jdobbs
10th April 2010, 21:46
If it helps you to locate the problem and or a work around for it. I’ve found that RipBot264 seems to have a way around this issue:

When using Ripbot264 to process this movie and after extracting the subs if there are any forced subs it creates 2 separate sub files for selection and loading into the encoding project i.e. subs and forced_subs.

So you can just select the forced_subs and not the main subs.

If you then want to resize from 1080p to 720p, RipBot automatically resizes the forced_subs file for you.Thanks. I'll do some testing with "2012" and figure it out.

Discoboy
10th April 2010, 21:51
I understood there to be 3 types of subs:

1. Hardcoded types in the film such as location names, dates and times info in the movie

2. Forced subs that pop-up during a different language dialog otherwise you would not know what was being said

3. Standard subs which you turn on with the player if you want complete subs on thorough the film even though the language is the same

Hookahice
10th April 2010, 23:37
Hi Everyone,

First I would like to say THANK YOU for this awesome program!!! jdobbs, you are the fucking man for getting us thus far with BD Rebuilder. Great work!
I have been testing BD Rebuilder for many months now and have successfully re-encoded over 100 Blu-Rays.
Here are some of the feedbacks/bugs I have encountered overtime using BD Rebuilder, hopefully some can be fixed for the next version. If you notice however, that some things are wrong on my end, please let me know.

My Configuration:
I use ONLY the BD 25GB output option since I only burn movies on my blank 25GB BD's.
My testing device is PS3. I don't consider my computer BD burner/drive as a testing device since I have seen many times that computers with BD drives sometimes CAN play BD's that have wrong BD structure or will not play on standalone players but are fine on the computer.
So if it works on my PS3, it also works on my friend's Sony standalone player and I place the movie in my "verified & works" BD's spindle.
INSPECT.EXE:
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

All other settings are default. Nothing has been changed or modified in the ini file. (worked fine for the 100+ BD's I have done so far...) The only thing that I change back and forth is weather I want a "Full" or "Movie-Only" encodes. Which all still remain @ 25GB output.


So let's get to the bugs/problems:

Issue 1 - Disk Space:
If the working folder (Drives) runs out of space while in the process of re-encode, BD Rebuilder freezes (not-responding). It would be nice to have a message regarding this error + prompt a message with 2 options: "Abort" & "Retry". This way I can move some files (other junk in the drive somewhere else) and click "Retry" after I know I freed up some space to continue process...

Issue 2 - Foreign Characters:
Some of the BD's that I am trying to re-encode are not A1 region but C3. That means that the title/label may have a foreign characters in it (even though it is an American movie).

This causes BD Rebuilder to display ???? in its GUI interface (in place where the title goes) and in turn generate an error when the re-encoding process starts and Command Prompt is opened to remux the audio into the working folder. The reason this is happening is because Windows file system cannot create a folder with the "?" character since it's considered invalid. And BD Rebuilder creates a folder based on the title name which in this case is ????
See attached file (WinSharLimit) to see you cannot create a folder with special characters.

It would be nice to have the Unicode enabled/integrated but if it's too much work, have "Unidentified" instead of ???? or some other title that replaces "?" characters.

Issue 3 - Subtitles:
Often with all the movies I re-encode to fit on my 25GB BD's, I tend to remove other subtitles which I don't need. (Only need English). Everything goes as usual however when I test my BD on my PS3, and click the subtitle option, it goes from 1.English to 2.Spanish, 3. French and so on... only that the actual subtitles which works (displays) is only English. Others just stay blank.
It seems like that BD Rebuilder DOES remove the subtitles but doesn't remove the reference (or link) in the options. So if a movie has for instance 20 language subtitles, and you chose to remove 19 leaving English only - you have to scroll through 20 subtitle options in the PS3 which 19 of them are not even there... see what I'm saying - hopefully I made myself clear and not too confusing...

Issue 4 - Sherlock Holmes BD:
I have Sherlock Holmes BD which I am trying to re-encode (movie-only, not Full) into 25GB and 15 minutes into the process the following error:
-----------------------
[03:15:39] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: SHERLOCK_HOLMES_2009_BLURAY_1080P_VC-1_DTS-HD_MA_5.1
- Input BD size: 25.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:08:24.738]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[03:15:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:15:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00155]
- [03:28:46] Reencoding: VID_00155 (1 of 23)
- [03:28:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,645 frames
- Bitrate: 22,440 Kbs
- [03:28:46] Reencoding: VID_00155, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[03:31:51] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any suggestions with this - nothing different with what I am doing here usually???


Issue 5 - New Rambo Film BD:
This is a problem that I encountered only with this film so far and it's very wired. :confused:
I also want to note that I have not re-tested the re-encoding of this with the new version of BD Rebuilder. It was done 2 months ago with an older version that was out at the time (can't remember which one)
So the problem is that when I tried to recode this film (can't remember if it was full or Movie-only) the disc starts playing normally on my PS3 but once it gets to "chapter 2" into the movie, the audio suddenly switches to the director's commentary audio track which the video remains the same but I start hearing all the comments made by the director on each scene. Skipping to Chapter 3 get it back to the normal sound track but it happens every few selected chapters (not random) which is very weird. It seems during the re-encode/remux of this film in BD Rebuilder, it associated the wrong audio tracks to the wrong video tracks... is this something that was resolved in the new (current) versions of BD Rebuilder? Or is it something on my end I am doing wrong?


Thanks for taking the time and reading this long thread.
This program is excellent, much appreciation!!!
-Liran
:thanks:

Ch3vr0n
11th April 2010, 00:31
about your issue nr 4. you don't have FFDShow set correctly for VC-1 video. Wich is probably the culprit. Go to the very first post and follow instructions. Search for VC-1 if you have to :)

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 02:24
I understood there to be 3 types of subs:

1. Hardcoded types in the film such as location names, dates and times info in the movie

2. Forced subs that pop-up during a different language dialog otherwise you would not know what was being said

3. Standard subs which you turn on with the player if you want complete subs on thorough the film even though the language is the same True, but I still thought you'd have to turn the forced subs on with a register just like a normal sub. Maybe I got it wrong.

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 02:36
@Hookahice

Issue 1: I'll try to see what I can do, but at the time you usually run out of disc space it's usually X264 that is running. I guess I can look and see what space is remaining before starting.

Issue 2: Not sure how that could happen unless the O/S is returning that value to me. I'll do a scrub and look for the "?" character and replace it with somethign (I already do that with some other characters).

Issue 3: Probably not much I can do. In order to remove all references (rather than just the stream), I'd probably have to put some type of AI into analyzing the commands of the virtual machine also... that can get a little hairy.

Issue 4: The reason I recommend using "wmv9" for VC-1 is because other codecs seem to fail on certain types of VC-1 sources. With your choice you are using whatever default sits behind FFDSHOW... which is probably WMP-12, but it's unpredictable.

Issue 5: Does that disc have secondary audio (PiP)? I think there may be some remaining issues with my handling of PiP. I'm working on a post rebuild scanner that changes PiP audio tracks back to their original PID -- that may fix it.

Discoboy
11th April 2010, 07:27
True, but I still thought you'd have to turn the forced subs on with a register just like a normal sub. Maybe I got it wrong.

If that is the case then you have BD_RB programmed correctly for 1080p (i.e. a non-resized movie) as the forced subs are defaulted to on when the output is played on a player and the standard subs and defaulted to off.

It’s when you resize to 720P with BD_RB that the programming of BD_RB gets it wrong and turns off the forced subs of the output and combines the forced_subs with the normal subs.

So you have to enable subs to on with the players, but it then plays both subs at once and not just the force_subs.

Discoboy
11th April 2010, 07:47
@Hookahice

Issue 3 - Subtitles:

In the “Setup” menu of BD-RB in the “Subtitle Languages to Keep:” do you have:

- Only “English (eng)” checkbox set to ON and ALL other Subtitle Language checkboxes set to OFF?
- The “Limit to one track for each language” option checkbox set to ON?

This is how I have BD-RB setup and I only then see 1 option of English subs on my player.

PhilippeB
11th April 2010, 15:48
I am having a strange issue with Lord of the ring - Fellowship of the Ring, and Return of the King.

I setted up the 3 movies to backup as 'Full' in BD-RD. Two towers went fine, but Fellowship of the ring and Return of the king came out with english audio tracks only, although i specified both english and french audio tracks.

At first, i though this was an error in my attention so i deleted every temporary files and re-done it again, this time being very torough how i setted up everything.

Now it came out (Again) a second time without French audio tracks.

Two towers makes it ok however. All 3 disks are comming from the same box set so i don't understand what is happening.

Also, i of course verified the originals with TS Muxer and they do have 2 audio tracks. English in Master audio 6.1 and French as Dolby digital 440kbps.

My settings are as follow:
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ang;eng;enm;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24500

:thanks:

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 16:37
I am having a strange issue with Lord of the ring - Fellowship of the Ring, and Return of the King.

I setted up the 3 movies to backup as 'Full' in BD-RD. Two towers went fine, but Fellowship of the ring and Return of the king came out with english audio tracks only, although i specified both english and french audio tracks.

At first, i though this was an error in my attention so i deleted every temporary files and re-done it again, this time being very torough how i setted up everything.

Now it came out (Again) a second time without French audio tracks.

Two towers makes it ok however. All 3 disks are comming from the same box set so i don't understand what is happening.

Also, i of course verified the originals with TS Muxer and they do have 2 audio tracks. English in Master audio 6.1 and French as Dolby digital 440kbps.

My settings are as follow:
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=ang;eng;enm;fra;fre;frm;fro;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24500

:thanks: What language does BD-RB see and display in the streams list?

DarWun
11th April 2010, 19:29
True, but I still thought you'd have to turn the forced subs on with a register just like a normal sub. Maybe I got it wrong.

I recently did BD9 movie only backups of Angels and Demons, 2012, and District 9. All three movies have forced subtitles for non-english dialogue as a PGS track that is separate from the tracks with full subtitles. Rather than trying to figure out which track is the forced one by trial and error, I backed up these movies with all english subtitles selected. On playback of the backups, the forced subtitles are automatically on. I don't have to do anything to enable them.

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 20:21
I recently did BD9 movie only backups of Angels and Demons, 2012, and District 9. All three movies have forced subtitles for non-english dialogue as a PGS track that is separate from the tracks with full subtitles. Rather than trying to figure out which track is the forced one by trial and error, I backed up these movies with all english subtitles selected. On playback of the backups, the forced subtitles are automatically on. I don't have to do anything to enable them.Good to know. Thanks.

kalle2k3
11th April 2010, 20:49
For 2012, i can say that there are some captions forced inside the main english sub, there is no extra track for those forced subs. From my experience, only the presence of a forced caption inside a sub track or pure forced sub track will display the subs.

DarWun
11th April 2010, 21:10
For 2012, i can say that there are some captions forced inside the main english sub, there is no extra track for those forced subs. From my experience, only the presence of a forced caption inside a sub track or pure forced sub track will display the subs.

That's strange. I'll have to go back and take a look at the subtitles. I created an MKV of 2012 to put on my media server around the same time I backed the movie up with BD-Rebuilder. I had extracted all of the PGS subtitles and converted them to sub/idx files. The main english subs did not appear to have any forced subs so I ignored them. I found one PGS which contained what I thought were all the subs for non-english dialogue, so I included it in the MKV. I got subtitles in the first scene where chinese was spoken, so I thought all was good. I haven't bothered to watch the movie much past that point, so there very well could be scenes later in the movie where subtitles will be missing.

Discoboy
11th April 2010, 21:26
For 2012, i can say that there are some captions forced inside the main english sub, there is no extra track for those forced subs. From my experience, only the presence of a forced caption inside a sub track or pure forced sub track will display the subs.

I 2nd that.
That's exactly what I found with 2012 and why I reported the bug of the forced_subs being defaulted to off when down sized to 720p

jdobbs
11th April 2010, 21:57
I"m re-doing this movie. After it was done it looks like 33.02 sticks an extra mpls in there that's part of the extras.

00047 is wrong and not shown in BDedit

I'm using tssplitter now, which may have been how I did it before

edit; actually there are several 47, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20 and 21 they are nearly every other one placed incorrectlyI think you're looking at a different MPLS than the one selected in BD-RB.

Are you saying you are doing some sort of preprocessing before you run it through BD-RB?

PhilippeB
11th April 2010, 22:37
What language does BD-RB see and display in the streams list?

Before i start, it displays English and french for both Languages and subtitles. They are automatically selected due to my preferences.

But when the job is done, there is only English remaining in audio, and both PGS (presentation graphic streams / subtitles) english and french are muxed.

I started a workaround, i demuxed the original streams with TxMuxer to salvage the french audio track, then trying to remux with the previous result of BD RB but it won'T fit a BD.

One other workaround i though is redo the job again with BDRB telling it to compress 600Meg less than actual, then take the incomplete result at the end and then be able to add the french language track.

Theses two titles are the very first one to behave like that - never had this problem before.

Hookahice
11th April 2010, 23:28
Thank you jdobbs & Discoboy!
The issue with the subtitles is now resolved. All I had to do is to checkmark English only under the “Subtitle Languages to Keep” and checkmark the "Limit to one track for each language" under Options in BD Rebuilder as Discoboy suggested -that did it. Silly me...

I have also set "wmv9" for VC-1 in the FFDSHOW settings which fixed the issue with the Sherlock Holms Blu-Ray encode issue. Thanks again.

I will have to check Rambo BD and see if it does indeed have a secondary audio (PiP) and get back to this soon.
But thanks guys.

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 00:28
Before i start, it displays English and french for both Languages and subtitles. They are automatically selected due to my preferences.

But when the job is done, there is only English remaining in audio, and both PGS (presentation graphic streams / subtitles) english and french are muxed.

I started a workaround, i demuxed the original streams with TxMuxer to salvage the french audio track, then trying to remux with the previous result of BD RB but it won'T fit a BD.

One other workaround i though is redo the job again with BDRB telling it to compress 600Meg less than actual, then take the incomplete result at the end and then be able to add the french language track.

Theses two titles are the very first one to behave like that - never had this problem before. Are you doing the encode via batch mode or regular mode?

PhilippeB
12th April 2010, 00:32
Are you doing the encode via batch mode or regular mode?

Both times it was batch.

Also, everytime i start a batch, i cleanup (delete) everything that is in the destination folder to prevent anything from a previous job to interfere.

I can start it 'Single' this time to see if it works. I'll let you know tomorrow only because this one takes 10 hours to make in maximum quality mode (it is a 3H movie).

:thanks:

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 01:15
Both times it was batch.

Also, everytime i start a batch, i cleanup (delete) everything that is in the destination folder to prevent anything from a previous job to interfere.

I can start it 'Single' this time to see if it works. I'll let you know tomorrow only because this one takes 10 hours to make in maximum quality mode (it is a 3H movie).

:thanks: Ahh... that helps. When you load the batch, is the french selected (during the encode)? One thing to remember (you probably already know this) -- when a job is added to batch, any changes made after the instant it was added to the queue has no affect.

Jake802
12th April 2010, 13:01
I know I am doing something wrong and stupid here but I am having trouble reading the log file,can someone point me in the right direction. This is what I get when I got to do full disc backup of Watchmen Directors Cut...

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[07:59:58] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:31:32.192]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:00:00] Exited per user request.
-----------------------
[08:00:51] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[08:00:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:00:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00524]
- [08:00:55] Reencoding: VID_00524 (1 of 50)
- [08:00:55] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [08:01:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 29 frames
- [08:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00524, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3274, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[08:01:01] - Failed video encode, aborted

colinhunt
12th April 2010, 13:06
v0.33.04 produced an error I've never seen before. Source is UK release of Life disc 1 (1080i50 with DTS-HD HR audio). Movie only, selected playlist which includes all three episodes.

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[14:39:45] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: LIFE_D1
- Input BD size: 40,70 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:56:28.000]
- Target BD size: 23,49 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:39:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- Error in attempt to MKVMERGE.
[14:51:33] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

update: Same thing happened with 0.33.02.

Dirk Diggler
12th April 2010, 14:24
I know I am doing something wrong and stupid here but I am having trouble reading the log file,can someone point me in the right direction. This is what I get when I got to do full disc backup of Watchmen Directors Cut...

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[07:59:58] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:31:32.192]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:00:00] Exited per user request.
-----------------------
[08:00:51] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[08:00:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:00:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00524]
- [08:00:55] Reencoding: VID_00524 (1 of 50)
- [08:00:55] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [08:01:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 29 frames
- [08:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00524, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3274, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[08:01:01] - Failed video encode, aborted

Where did you get your HAALI Splitter from? If you used the one from the first post it should work. Something changed in the latest version of HAALI Splitter and breaks BD-Rebuilder

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 14:51
I know I am doing something wrong and stupid here but I am having trouble reading the log file,can someone point me in the right direction. This is what I get when I got to do full disc backup of Watchmen Directors Cut...

-----------------------
[07:59:58] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:31:32.192]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
...
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3274, not recommended version
...
[08:01:01] - Failed video encode, aborted It's telling you in the output exactly what your problem is. Correct your setup to the recommended versions.

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 14:55
v0.33.04 produced an error I've never seen before. Source is UK release of Life disc 1 (1080i50 with DTS-HD HR audio). Movie only, selected playlist which includes all three episodes.

-----------------------
[14:39:45] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: LIFE_D1
- Input BD size: 40,70 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:56:28.000]
- Target BD size: 23,49 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:39:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- Error in attempt to MKVMERGE.
[14:51:33] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

update: Same thing happened with 0.33.02. There are certain types of VC-1 field-based sources that HAALI/FFDSHOW cannot decode properly from an M2TS source. So BD-RB has to use MKVMERGE to output it to an MKV (which is then used as input for the reencoding). It appears that MKVMERGE is having trouble trying to understand the source M2TS in 00106.m2ts.

I see your source is 1080i/50... so I don't think I'll be able to get my hands on the exact version you're using -- so the best I can do is try the US version of that disc and see if it has any issues.

colinhunt
12th April 2010, 16:00
There are certain types of VC-1 field-based sources that HAALI/FFDSHOW cannot decode properly from an M2TS source.
So it would appear, as this disc is causing severe headaches to multiAVCHD as well. The first episode alone has several scenes where bitrates climb extremely high, and those scenes come out severely garbled in x264's output for BD25. BDinfo reports max 1-sec rates such as 49 074, 50 677 and even 56 013 kbps.

I see your source is 1080i/50... so I don't think I'll be able to get my hands on the exact version you're using -- so the best I can do is try the US version of that disc and see if it has any issues.
US version is very likely to have a different framerate, methinks.

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 16:32
So it would appear, as this disc is causing severe headaches to multiAVCHD as well. The first episode alone has several scenes where bitrates climb extremely high, and those scenes come out severely garbled in x264's output for BD25. BDinfo reports max 1-sec rates such as 49 074, 50 677 and even 56 013 kbps.


US version is very likely to have a different framerate, methinks. You may want to try outputting to MKV first -- as that has fixed it all the cases I've tried. You still wouldn't be able to feed directly into X264, as FFMS2 doesn't support field-based interlacing yet either, but FFDSHOW via AVISYNTH's DirectShowSource() and "wmv9" seems to work with the US sources that I've found.

I'd be interested to know if it works with your source.

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 16:53
I think you're looking at a different MPLS than the one selected in BD-RB.

Are you saying you are doing some sort of preprocessing before you run it through BD-RB?@datman

I picked up "Deja Vu" confirmed this. BD-RB is selecting playlist 00050 by default and the streams listed are correct for that playlist.

If you want to encode using the other playlist, go into "Alternate Movie-Only Playlist" and select playlist 00030.

colinhunt
12th April 2010, 19:13
You may want to try outputting to MKV first -- as that has fixed it all the cases I've tried. You still wouldn't be able to feed directly into X264, as FFMS2 doesn't support field-based interlacing yet either, but FFDSHOW via AVISYNTH's DirectShowSource() and "wmv9" seems to work with the US sources that I've found.
You mean encapsulating the original VC-1 video stream in MKV first, then feeding that to x264 via FFDShow and AVISYNTH's DirectShowSource().... or?

PhilippeB
12th April 2010, 19:40
Ahh... that helps. When you load the batch, is the french selected (during the encode)? One thing to remember (you probably already know this) -- when a job is added to batch, any changes made after the instant it was added to the queue has no affect.

Yes it was - it is always as i alwas rebuild with two languages.
For batch mode, yes, i noticed that preferences were 'buffed' for each item (don't remember where i saw that though) and it does make sense.

3 more hours to go in 'single mode', i'll let you know if it works in 'single mode'.

If it still don'T work, i'll install the very last version (3304) as i'm still running 3208.

:thanks:

turbojet
12th April 2010, 19:59
With the 2012 forced subs issue it seems to me like TSMuxer isn't keeping the forced flag when resizing. BDSup2Sub is reported to keep it. I'd test if I had access to a forced flag sup.

PhilippeB
12th April 2010, 23:13
Yes it was - it is always as i alwas rebuild with two languages.
For batch mode, yes, i noticed that preferences were 'buffed' for each item (don't remember where i saw that though) and it does make sense.

3 more hours to go in 'single mode', i'll let you know if it works in 'single mode'.

If it still don'T work, i'll install the very last version (3304) as i'm still running 3208.

:thanks:

Jdobbs, i Finally finished Return of the King.
BD-RB DOES the job right if i go in single (not batch) mode. But there is definitly an issue with batch mode.

Now i recall i did made two towers in single mode (and it passed) and i had pushed both fellowship of the ring and return of the kind to batch, and french track disapeared.

-> To confirm that, remember i re-did the exercise and it did fail again in batch mode.

Finally, single mode passes. But why won't it do the job correctly in batch mode ? This is a complete mystery.

BTW it does that only with theses particular titles so far, as i have tested many other titles during the weekend and they all went well (both languaged tracks were kept).
Only Lord of the ring (i asume now any of the 3 titles) ran through batch mode will loose French (even if selected).

May i provide any further hints on what has gone wrong in batch mode, let me know. Meanwhile, i'll be keeping theses in 'single' mode.

From now on, i do an extra step at the end of any title, i drag and drop the final m2ts file over ts_muxer to make sure all languages had been included (see ? I had developped a new paranoia ! =)

:thanks:

jdobbs
12th April 2010, 23:47
Jdobbs, i Finally finished Return of the King.
BD-RB DOES the job right if i go in single (not batch) mode. But there is definitly an issue with batch mode.

Now i recall i did made two towers in single mode (and it passed) and i had pushed both fellowship of the ring and return of the kind to batch, and french track disapeared.

-> To confirm that, remember i re-did the exercise and it did fail again in batch mode.

Finally, single mode passes. But why won't it do the job correctly in batch mode ? This is a complete mystery.

BTW it does that only with theses particular titles so far, as i have tested many other titles during the weekend and they all went well (both languaged tracks were kept).
Only Lord of the ring (i asume now any of the 3 titles) ran through batch mode will loose French (even if selected).

May i provide any further hints on what has gone wrong in batch mode, let me know. Meanwhile, i'll be keeping theses in 'single' mode.

From now on, i do an extra step at the end of any title, i drag and drop the final m2ts file over ts_muxer to make sure all languages had been included (see ? I had developped a new paranoia ! =)

:thanks: The only thing BD-RB does differently in batch mode is save/read an entry in BDBATCH.INI that lists the selections. Maybe there are just an extreme number of selections and they won't fit..

Can you please set it up again and add the job to your batch file -- and then send me a copy of BDBATCH.INI? Send it to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com.

Jake802
13th April 2010, 01:58
Thanks! I knew I was overlooking something!

ezoch
13th April 2010, 08:34
Seems like new 2010 movies with PIP commentary features have problems with bd25 encoding. I had problems with Public Enemies Region A using bdrebuilder v0.32.08 all works perfectly until 5 minutes 30 seconds the movie get freeze, i can rewind or forward some seconds with the remote in my sony bdp-bx2 but then it freeze again in just a few seconds. Someone had succesful with this movie? i need help to see if there is a common problem or was just me.
Thanks in advance.

gwendal13
13th April 2010, 17:40
The only thing BD-RB does differently in batch mode is save/read an entry in BDBATCH.INI that lists the selections. Maybe there are just an extreme number of selections and they won't fit..

Can you please set it up again and add the job to your batch file -- and then send me a copy of BDBATCH.INI? Send it to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com.

I confirm in batchmode audio tracks are all reselected.

robinsj
13th April 2010, 21:05
jdobbs, is there anyway to implement a feature that you can just select the main movie to not be encoded, and only encode the extras, but you can still select audio/subtitles to be ripped from the main movie? Somewhat like how DVD shrink works. I love the software, but I don't want to compress the main movie, but would like to compress the extras and rip the extra audios out, while keeping the menu and such.... Thanks!!

theria05
14th April 2010, 00:07
BD Rebuilder works several times for me in the past, but now I get a windows popup error message "wavi.exe has stopped working"

Here is the lines a get in the log before the error :

[19:02:05] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: 82860856_DAVE_MATTHEWS_DISC_1
- Input BD size: 40.47 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:55:19.901]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:02:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:02:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [19:02:08] Reencoding: VID_00012 (1 of 4)

And this is from the cmd window:

C:\BD_Rebuilder>"C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\wavi.exe" "D:\WORKING\WORKFILES\AUD_00012
_4352.AVS" - | "C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\aften.exe" -v 1 -b 224 -readtoeof 1 - "D
:\WORKING\WORKFILES\AUD_00012_4352.AC3"

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

Does anybody has a clue about what is the problem ?

Thanks,

Olivier

Oldfart13
14th April 2010, 13:31
I downloaded the test discs and burned them with Imgburn to Verbatim DVD-R single layer. My results for the Curtis DVD 1102 and a Samsung 42" LCD:

OLD_BD - works fine
NEW_BD - works fine
NEWBD CROP 720 - works fine
NEWBD CROP 1080 - works fine
AVCHD - works fine
AVCHD STRICT - works fine
AVCHD AUX - works fine
AVCHD CROP 720 - works fine
AVCHD CROP 1080 - works fine
AVCHD DTSHD - works fine
NEWBD TRUEHD - works fine
NEWBD DTSHD - works fine
AVCHD TRUEHD - no audio

I also tried an AVCHD converted from an MKV full movie and that displayed fine but no subtitles. It's an ongoing problem with players that don't display anything other than SRT subs and programs that can convert other sub formats to SRT and integrate them into the finished back up. I also don't have a double layer AVCHD or Blu Ray back up to test. Hopefully soon.

Hope this helps someone.

Tuxon86
14th April 2010, 14:28
Hi!

I did my first BD25 yesterday. I used 300 as a source and selected the english PCM audio and french AC3 audio (i did check the keep hd audio on bd25 option). I also told it to keep all the subs.

Once the process ended I tried the disk in my PS3 but I only get the english audio track and english subs only.

Is this normal? Does the multiple audio track not implemented yet?

mscsmyrpln
14th April 2010, 15:26
jdobbs-

Greetings! Two questions, when you have a chance:

1. Is there a way for full backups to force one CRF level for the main movie and another for extras? I tried combining hidden options "QUICK_CRF=18" and "FIXED_CRF=20" together, but it seems "FIXED_CRF=20" takes precedence and causes everything to use that setting.

2. An earlier post in this thread seems to confirm that BD-Rebuilder does modify MPLS files, as needed. For some reason my jobs are all resulting in PLAYLIST folders full of MPLS files identical to the original disc, even though I've had BD-Rebuilder strip out several unwanted language and subtitle tracks across each file. MediaInfo confirms the resulting M2TS files are devoid of these unwanted tracks. BDedit also confirms the MPLS files to be straight copies of their originals, still referring to language and subtitle tracks not present in the new M2TS files. I am using 33.04, but have experienced this problem with previous versions as well. My settings:

FREE_PROCESSOR=2
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=2
FIXED_CRF=22
QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1
SHOW_ENCODER=1
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=7910
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=1000
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0

By the way, thank you for this wonderful (beta) program. Since this program is not available for purchase yet, I bought a license of DVD-Rebuilder as a way of saying thanks. I look forward to using it some day, if I ever buy a DVD again.

guest135
14th April 2010, 15:48
First, let me say that BD-RB is an amazing program and that jdobbs has done a truly fantastic job. Thanks for all your hard work, jdobbs!

I have noticed that a few of the finished movie encodes seem to have very slight pauses or freezes throughout the movie. These freezes are perhaps half a second and are barely noticeable. The audio does not even get off sync. I have noticed that these freezes seem to appear in the encodes of movies in which BD-RB detects multiple video streams. I am not very knowledgeable about the subject, but I was wondering if somehow we are not getting seamless transitions between these video streams (please excuse my poor terminology).

I am encoding to a BD-5 ("Movie Only," "Very High Quality") and I have noticed these pauses in the encoded video files on my harddrive, so they are present even before I burn the movie to a disc. I am running Windows 7 64-bit, 6 gig RAM, 400 GB free HDD space, Intel i7.

I apologize if this issue has already been discussed. Thank you again for a truly incredible program!

Ch3vr0n
14th April 2010, 23:06
Hi!

I did my first BD25 yesterday. I used 300 as a source and selected the english PCM audio and french AC3 audio (i did check the keep hd audio on bd25 option). I also told it to keep all the subs.

Once the process ended I tried the disk in my PS3 but I only get the english audio track and english subs only.

Is this normal? Does the multiple audio track not implemented yet?

The multi audio & subs is implemented yes, but there is a setting in BDRB for that. Open up the setup menu and just below both the audio streams section & the subs section there each time is a tickbox that sais something like "limit to 1 stream per language". Untick that box and all should be well again :)

DK
14th April 2010, 23:44
The multi audio & subs is implemented yes, but there is a setting in BDRB for that. Open up the setup menu and just below both the audio streams section & the subs section there each time is a tickbox that sais something like "limit to 1 stream per language". Untick that box and all should be well again :)

That option should not disable a secondary language/subtitle but is meant for including MORE than one stream for a certain language - e.g. another commentary stream.

SektOderSelters
15th April 2010, 00:49
hey folks,

sorry if that topic is already old (I guess it is) but instead of reading all 380+ pages of that topic I dare to ask right away ;).

i've got the problem that the sound doesn't seem to be synchron to the picture; while watching the movie the picture / sound freezes for some seconds every 1-2 minutes.
is that a common problem? and much more important, is there a solution?

regards

Jake802
15th April 2010, 01:34
Ok im confused. I was trying to do the second disc of Snow White and got the following:

[Earlier Status Text Truncated]
...
- [08:18:34] Reencoding: VID_00115, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:18:48] Video Encode complete
- [08:18:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:18:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:18:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00276]
- [08:18:51] Reencoding: VID_00276 (189 of 256)
- [08:18:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 803 frames
- Bitrate: 6,804 Kbs
- [08:18:51] Reencoding: VID_00276, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:19:44] Video Encode complete
- [08:19:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:19:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:19:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00279]
- [08:19:46] Reencoding: VID_00279 (190 of 256)
- [08:19:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,152 frames
- Bitrate: 4,597 Kbs
- [08:19:47] Reencoding: VID_00279, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:20:45] Video Encode complete
- [08:20:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:20:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:20:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [08:20:47] Reencoding: VID_00100 (191 of 256)
- [08:20:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,969 frames
- [08:20:47] Reencoding: VID_00100, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[08:20:53] - Failed video encode, aborted

What am I doing wrong now? And what is MPEG2 supposed to be set at?

Thanks

Jake

Ch3vr0n
15th April 2010, 02:06
It's supposed to be set to "libavcodec". Looks like ur FFDShow isnt configured properly

Fulgrim
15th April 2010, 02:36
Everything works great on standard discs. When using a multi-episode disc it crashes after a few seconds. Message follows:

[21:31:48] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: BSG_S1_D1
- Input BD size: 41.32 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:42:53.231]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:31:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:31:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00280]
- [21:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00280 (1 of 18)
- [21:31:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,128 frames
- [21:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00280, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3342)
[21:32:02] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any ideas?

Jake802
15th April 2010, 02:41
It's supposed to be set to "libavcodec". Looks like ur FFDShow isnt configured properly

Thanks!

jdobbs
15th April 2010, 04:32
Everything works great on standard discs. When using a multi-episode disc it crashes after a few seconds. Message follows:

[21:31:48] BD Rebuilder v0.33.02 (beta)
- Source: BSG_S1_D1
- Input BD size: 41.32 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:42:53.231]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:31:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:31:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00280]
- [21:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00280 (1 of 18)
- [21:31:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,128 frames
- [21:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00280, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3342)
[21:32:02] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any ideas? I see you fixed the problem by changing to the recommended versions. But you should also upgrade to the latest version of BD Rebuilder as well. It has a little better debugging output if you run into encoding problems.

DVD Maniac
15th April 2010, 12:41
Seems like this problem should be fixed now reading earlier posts...

Trying Terminator Salvation and the process breaks down in Phase 1 with break error "ExtractAudioSubs()" -

[02:39:54] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: TERMINATOR_SALVATION
- Input BD size: 24.86 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:46.712]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6000]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[02:39:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:39:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00100]
- [02:52:58] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 13 min 0 sec
[12:40:27] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Shuttle99
15th April 2010, 14:17
I had the same problem with Terminator Salvation many versions back and gave up on it until DVDfab started to convert Bluray's and then I used it and it had no problem. So far this was the only movie to give me this problem. Also on a side note since version 33.04 and using Automatic Quality Settings all that have been done in 1 pass work and look as good as two pass but cut about 3 to 4 hours off a coversion. So now a 1 pass on a 1.5 to 2 hour conversion to DVD-DL takes about 2 hours and what a savings in time.

Capsbackup
15th April 2010, 14:53
I made both a full backup to BD-25 and a movie only backup to BD5, of Terminator Salvation, no problems with either! I use XP Pro. :cool: So BD-RB worked fine for me.;)
Used Anydvdhd too.

datman
15th April 2010, 17:11
I think you're looking at a different MPLS than the one selected in BD-RB.

Are you saying you are doing some sort of preprocessing before you run it through BD-RB?

This is one of those movies that have several MPLS files in the main movie. BDRB has always done this correctly before.

Because 33.02 included those MPLS files from the extras as part of the movie only recode. I did it the old-school way by using tssplitter and then using the one MPLS file to do the movie only rebuild. It worked.

jdobbs
15th April 2010, 17:22
This is one of those movies that have several MPLS files in the main movie. BDRB has always done this correctly before.

Because 33.02 included those MPLS files from the extras as part of the movie only recode. I did it the old-school way by using tssplitter and then using the one MPLS file to do the movie only rebuild. It worked. As I said (and loaded on my computer and proved), BD-RB simply chose the wrong MPLS. It turns out that one was substantially larger than 00030. All you have to do is select it from the "Alternate Playlist" -- that's what it's there for.

8ternity
16th April 2010, 03:40
Hello,

I have converted over 5 bluray's with your softwares with theses settings:

- avisynth 2.5.8
- ffdshow clsid rev3342
- BD Rebuilder 33.02

I try to convert an new movie; it crashed on first file encode.
I download new version 33.04; samething.
I've read the log, Inspector found "Avisynth not good version" and ffdshow "not good version"

I download ffdshow clsid 3326 and install it. Same for avisynth 2.5.7. Because previously i was using for ripbot264.

I reboot, reset vc1 to wm9 and samething.

Here the log:

-----------------------
[22:24:32] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: ***MASKED***
- Input BD size: 36,52 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:19:12.023]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:24:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:24:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [22:24:34] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 20)
- [22:24:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 577 frames
- [22:24:34] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3342, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[22:27:38] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[22:31:49] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: ***MASKED***
- Input BD size: 36,52 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:19:12.023]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:31:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:31:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [22:31:57] Reencoding: VID_00074 (1 of 20)
- [22:31:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 577 frames
- [22:31:57] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:32:11] Video Encode complete
- [22:32:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:32:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:32:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00077]
- [22:32:14] Reencoding: VID_00077 (2 of 20)
- [22:32:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2*257 frames
- [22:32:15] Reencoding: VID_00077, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[22:36:39] - Failed video encode, aborted



Movie Specs Job


[Status]
LABEL=***MASKED***
VERSION=v0.33.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39215686561
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=38768240640
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.615955660736427
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=1
[00074]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=111111
M2TS_TARGET=16942900
NSIZE=23795712
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00077]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=111111
M2TS_TARGET=64032582



Can you help me with that please?

Note: it was decrypt and copy over my hard drive and worked from my hdd, not from the bd movie.


EDIT: the last video file AVS file source code

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.33.04 (beta)
DirectshowSource("E:\BDR\THE_BLIND_SIDE\FULLDISC\THE_BLIND_SIDE\BDMV\STREAM\00077.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=2257, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

Capsbackup
16th April 2010, 04:22
@8ternity;
You could try to put "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=500" ( or just larger than the .m2ts file BD-RB doesn't like ) under options in the BD-RB ini, and it should leave it alone and move on to the next file.
Try it, then load BD-RB again and see if that vid# is listed in the to reencode list.

x400
16th April 2010, 06:38
It has to be something outside of BD-RB. I'd look at any other installations or configuration changes you may have made recentely. BD Rebuilder makes no changes to your system related to audio at all. It doesn't even use the system codecs to decode audio, it uses NicAudio.dll via AVISYNTH.

You may also want to check FFDSHOW's audio configuration and see what is and is not enabled.

when i installed bd-rebuilder ... i dont recall now... but it had said one of my programs or codecs... wasnt configured properly for win7 and i told it to configure it properly.. im assuming thats the point where the audio stopped working

anyhow i just uninstalled cccp (codec pack) and reinstalled it and everything works normally again, and bd-rebuilder still works

so everythings ok anyhow ^^

sidneysides
16th April 2010, 07:08
I am stll getting slight motion blur on my backups, enough to tell the difference between the original, even though I'm backing up to a Bd25. It is more noticable in concerts where there is a camera pan or maybe the drummer is drumming. You get blurring during the pan or blurring of the drumsticks moving which weren't present in the original. I know I shouldn't expect it to be perfect as I am still reencoding, but most people on here say they can't tell the difference between their backup and the original.
I've tried doing movie only encodes with the same result. During slow moving scenes the picture is indistinguishable, just during motion. Are there any tweaks or setting for BDRB or for x264? Although the backup is great and certainly watchable, I find myself getting annoyed as I am always noticing it now as I'm always looking for it. Hope someone can help me out

Dark Shikari
16th April 2010, 07:12
I am stll getting slight motion blur on my backups, enough to tell the difference between the original, even though I'm backing up to a Bd25. It is more noticable in concerts where there is a camera pan or maybe the drummer is drumming.Interlaced source?

sidneysides
16th April 2010, 07:27
One was 1080i source (29.97) but the last one, Bon Jovi was 23.97p and still was the same. What should I have done differently with the interlaced one? As I said, the original played fine.

jdobbs
16th April 2010, 13:13
One was 1080i source (29.97) but the last one, Bon Jovi was 23.97p and still was the same. What should I have done differently with the interlaced one? As I said, the original played fine. The interlaced source would have been adjusted by the use of DECOMB's "FieldDeinterlace()" function. BD-RB uses that by default to remove combing effects. If you want to encode without deinterlacing, add this to your INI file:

DEINTERLACE=0

You can also use field delinteracing without blending rather than the default by setting DEINTERLACE=2.

As for the 23.976 source... check and see if the original used pulldown. If BD-RB shows a "*" in the stream listing, that is an indicator that the source was actually 29.97 as a result of pulldown.

I can think of no reason why you'd ever get motion blur on a 23.97 progressive source -- I've never seen it.

Moviewatcher666
16th April 2010, 13:49
Hey jdobbs,

I have made a BD25 Region A full backup of Monsters Vs Aliens. The audio on the PIP Secondary video is terribly out of sync. Is there anyway to fix this? Otherwise the rest of the disc plays perfectly.

I ran Inspect.exe and I have all the right versions of the encoding software and I am using BD Rebuilder .33.04.

Is this a bug in the program? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Moviewatcher666

8ternity
16th April 2010, 13:53
Resolved.

jdobbs
16th April 2010, 14:23
Hey jdobbs,

I have made a BD25 Region A full backup of Monsters Vs Aliens. The audio on the PIP Secondary video is terribly out of sync. Is there anyway to fix this? Otherwise the rest of the disc plays perfectly.

I ran Inspect.exe and I have all the right versions of the encoding software and I am using BD Rebuilder .33.04.

Is this a bug in the program? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Moviewatcher666 I'll have to get it and run a test. If I can repeat it I can fix it.

jdobbs
16th April 2010, 14:27
I've try to put MIN_M2TS_SIZE=100 and it freezed in the same file.

I've try to put MIN_M2TS_SIZE=500 and it freeze at another file VID_00026....


Thank you!What happens if you try to playback the AVS file with Media Player Classic or Windows Media Player?

8ternity
16th April 2010, 16:02
What happens if you try to playback the AVS file with Media Player Classic or Windows Media Player?

It play well with mpc the latest avs file, the one who not work for converting. It work if i set "play with ffdshow" use ffdshow for this time.

Properties of video played:
video: YV12 1920x1080 23.98fps [Avisynth video #1]

woodman
16th April 2010, 20:18
Just done a full backup of Tropic Thunder (BD25) and some of the extras files are not getting compressed enough, 3.5GB original to 3.3GB encoded approx, and also the 1GB files. The very small files get to about half their size, it’s happened on the Incredible Hulk to. The film is fine, apart from the file being smaller, just thought I’d report it; it leaves less room for the main film


- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok

Ch3vr0n
16th April 2010, 20:18
As for the 23.976 source... check and see if the original used pulldown. If BD-RB shows a "*" in the stream listing, that is an indicator that the source was actually 29.97 as a result of pulldown.

What if there's 2 *'s next to the stream ? I've got a VC-1 disc where multiple streams are

1080i, 29.97fps**

just a question though.

Zot
16th April 2010, 20:53
Hi,

I'm using BD Rebuilder 0.33.04. Inspect.exe shows all OK. Source is "Motherhood" which shows up as MPEG-4 (AVC), 1080i, 29.97fps.

I've tried to encode with and without forcing deinterlace, but the output seems jerky whenever they pan across a scene. Images seem like they are ghosting or doubling during motion. Static scenes play OK, just scenes that pan across the screen seem off. THis is true if output is played on my PC or my LG370 BD Player. When playing original BD I don't have this problem.

Any ideas?

Much thanks,

Z

Here's the INF file:
[Status]
LABEL=MOTHERHOOD
VERSION=v0.33.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=17816524800
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=17816524800
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=.257133677606982
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;hun;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;hun;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00005]
AUDIO=100
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=4581228544
RATE=5812
NSIZE=4091873280
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Capsbackup
16th April 2010, 22:50
Hi,

I'm using BD Rebuilder 0.33.04. Inspect.exe shows all OK. Source is "Motherhood" which shows up as MPEG-4 (AVC), 1080i, 29.97fps.


I experienced this too. :( You might check to see if BD-RB chose the correct field order. Open the .avs script created by BD-RB for the .m2ts file of the main movie with notepad.)
ex:
AssumeFieldBased().AssumeTFF() or it may say AssumeBFF().
Then open the .m2ts file with dgavcdec, select preview, and see what it says the field order is.

DK
16th April 2010, 23:14
I experienced this too. :(

me too with for example "A Frozen Flower/Blood & Flowers"

setarip_old
16th April 2010, 23:23
@jdobbs

Does the conversation in the following post (37722) mean that you solved the DTS Express (or is it Express DTS) quandary?

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1392203&postcount=7722

Ch3vr0n
17th April 2010, 00:06
That would definately be nice if DTS-E was able to be decoded. I'd be able to backup my Fast & Furious BD boxset then. They all contain DTS-E

Zot
17th April 2010, 00:16
I experienced this too. :( You might check to see if BD-RB chose the correct field order. Open the .avs script created by BD-RB for the .m2ts file of the main movie with notepad.)
ex:
AssumeFieldBased().AssumeTFF() or it may say AssumeBFF().
Then open the .m2ts file with dgavcdec, select preview, and see what it says the field order is.

OK - Here's what I got. the MBAFF is throwing me?

Thank you for your help, BTW!

Inspect:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

=============================================================================
AVS File:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.33.04 (beta)
DirectshowSource("Y:\BLURAY\MOTHERHOOD\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=160542, audio=false)
AssumeFieldBased().AssumeTFF()
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("F:\Installed ABITP35 WIN7\bd rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace()
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)

==============================================================================
DGAVCDEC:


Stream Type: Transport [192]
Profile: High
Level: 4.1
Frame Size: 1920x1080
SAR: 1:1
Display Size: 1920x1080
Frame Rate: 29.970030 fps
Colorimetry: BT.709 [1]
Frame Structure: MBAFF
Frame Type: not yet
Coded Number: 371
Playback Number: 371
Frame Repeats: 0
Field Repeats: 0
Bitrate: 18.748
Bitrate (Avg): 19.100
Bitrate (Max): 23.099
Audio Stream: 1100: DTS HDMA C+L+R+SL+SR 48 1536
Audio Stream: 1101: AC3 3/2 48 448
Audio Stream: 1102: AC3 2/0 48 192
Elapsed: 0:00:23
Remain: 3:04:43
FPS: 16.24
Info:

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 00:52
What if there's 2 *'s next to the stream ? I've got a VC-1 disc where multiple streams are

1080i, 29.97fps**

just a question though. That means it is a field based interlaced source.

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 00:54
@jdobbs

Does the conversation in the following post (37722) mean that you solved the DTS Express (or is it Express DTS) quanndary?

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1392203&postcount=7722 No. I just assume his source is DD. I'm going to start working on the DTS Express issue next week. Not sure if I can fix it without support from TSMUXER -- but I'll give it a shot.

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 00:57
Just done a full backup of Tropic Thunder (BD25) and some of the extras files are not getting compressed enough, 3.5GB original to 3.3GB encoded approx, and also the 1GB files. The very small files get to about half their size, it’s happened on the Incredible Hulk to. The film is fine, apart from the file being smaller, just thought I’d report it; it leaves less room for the main film


- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.33.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok I assume you have "Quick Code for Extras" selected. Since it uses a fixed CRF for different output sizes, it can randomly happen that way... the only alternative is to deselect it.

8ternity
17th April 2010, 01:37
About my issue jdobbs?

setarip_old
17th April 2010, 01:50
@jdobbs No. I just assume his source is DD.Sorry, my mistake. I thought ALL PIP audio was DTS Express...

Moviewatcher666
17th April 2010, 02:48
@jdobbs

Does the conversation in the following post (37722) mean that you solved the DTS Express (or is it Express DTS) quandary?

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1392203&postcount=7722

setarip_old

Monsters Vs Aliens uses AC3 for the secondary audio not DTS Express. I think that this movie is one for the few the does use AC3 for secondary audio on PIP video.

Jdobbs

Your assumption is correct. Sorry...should have mentioned that it was DD (AC3)

setarip_old
17th April 2010, 03:15
Hopefully someone already has an answer for this, because I failed to save he logs:

I recently made full disc BD-RB backups on DVD-9s of "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" and "Sleeping Beauty - 50th Anniversary".

Both burned discs play perfectly under Power DVD v.7.3, with menu background music looping until selections are made.

However, with each of the two, when played on a SONY BDP-S360, the menu background music ceases after approximately halfway through the first loop.

Somewhat surprisingly, everything else about these two discs continues to play perfectly - main movie, extras, options, etc. with all controls totally functional.

Your ideas will be appreciated.

Capsbackup
17th April 2010, 04:10
@setarip_old;
I believe this is due to DVD media and AVCHD, it's apparently not very consistent. If you burned that very same creation onto a BD-RE, I am quite sure you would find it works perfectly.
I have had this happen to me randomly, some work perfectly and some don't. Most always the movie plays fine though, with the occasional audio not heard on the main movie but works for all the trailesrs and extras.

Capsbackup
17th April 2010, 04:25
OK - Here's what I got. the MBAFF is throwing me?


I checked my region A version of this disc, and I receive the same log.:confused:
You could try changing the field order to BFF, run it manually to BD5 size and burn to DVD+RW and test to see if it's OK.
Found this post, but I'm not sure what to make of it.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=142427

EDIT:
Zot, you could try and run ReStream on the file to change the field order without reencoding. It does work with .ts files, but I am not sure about .m2ts or .264 files, but tsMuxeR can convert it for you, and this would be quicker than reencoding. If you burn to RW media and test on your standalone, you can confirm if this was the problem. :cool:

SoniG
17th April 2010, 04:52
Zot : Yeah there is a problem with the way interlaced footages are processed. I reported it but had any answer. I advise you to process interlaced footages as 'interlaced' in adding DEINTERLACE=0 in the options. If you see ghosty images in playing, it should be from the way your player process interlaced footages. Ever try to set your player deinterlace mode to BOB/Double framerate, it will play smoother and without frame blending/ghosty effects. If you feel images are jerky in motion it's certainly due to field order issue. BDR sometimes interprete and process with the wrong fields order, especially in BFF (Bottom Field First) interlaced VC1 sources. The only way (I think) is to edit the avs file with the good field order, but also create you own batch for x264 with the good interlaced flag --bff, and remux or try to rebuild with BDR if you set to keep workfiles.

setarip_old
17th April 2010, 07:46
@Capsbackup

Hi! - and thanks for your feedback.I have had this happen to me randomly, some work perfectly and some don't.Is your standalone player a SONY BDP-S360?

I ask because, as far as I can tell, all postings here (including, most notably, those by "jdobbs") led me to believe that the SONY BDP-S360 properly played everything that was thrown at it, regardless of media type.

**EDIT** If anyone has any detailed information regarding this issue SPECIFIC to the SONY BDP-S360, please post to this thread.

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 14:16
About my issue jdobbs?A quote from the first post of this thread:If you decide to download and test -- please post any errors you find in this thread. Don't push bug resolution or keep asking for a fix. I will get to the reported bugs, but only when I can find the time.

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 14:19
Zot : Yeah there is a problem with the way interlaced footages are processed. I reported it but had any answer. I advise you to process interlaced footages as 'interlaced' in adding DEINTERLACE=0 in the options. If you see ghosty images in playing, it should be from the way your player process interlaced footages. Ever try to set your player deinterlace mode to BOB/Double framerate, it will play smoother and without frame blending/ghosty effects. If you feel images are jerky in motion it's certainly due to field order issue. BDR sometimes interprete and process with the wrong fields order, especially in BFF (Bottom Field First) interlaced VC1 sources. The only way (I think) is to edit the avs file with the good field order, but also create you own batch for x264 with the good interlaced flag --bff, and remux or try to rebuild with BDR if you set to keep workfiles. I'll take a look at it. But I can tell you that I don't know how I can get the field wrong on VC-1... I pull the information directly from the source stream's flags.

Can you give me an example source where it gets it wrong?

Capsbackup
17th April 2010, 15:11
@setarip_old;
Yes, my standalone is a Sony S360.

@jdobbs;
Motherhood, as reported from Zot, shows MPEG-4 (AVC), 1080i, 29.97fps, and dgavcdec reports Frame Structure: MBAFF. So I am not sure if BD-RB is selecting the wrong field order or not, but playback is not smooth on scenes where the camera is panning, but jumpy. So forgive me if I assumed this was a field order issue.:confused:
BD-RB's avs says - AssumeFieldBased().AssumeTFF()

What is MBAFF?
Some Google searching does find this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=120317
Quite old though, so I am not sure why/how a field order is selected, nor do I need to know. :p
As long as BD-RB selects for me, I can just view my backups and enjoy! :)

SoniG
17th April 2010, 15:51
jdobbs : Yeah, Stargate BD on 480i bonuses, that are bff and encoded by BDR as TFF and give jerky results. I don't know how you read the flags but mediainfo always give the good one. For more info I invite you to read the PM I sent you the March 28th, I'm also talking about the artefacts generated by decomb.dll, the fact that you encode as interlaced these decombed footages, some tff footages that are assumed bff on AVS and encoded as tff on x264 (but don't seems to have visual impact), and some strange VC1 that are flagged progressive but with a bff flag (Batman 1989) and don't seem to be pulldown or something and are interpreted as 480i on BDR (that in fact are not) and processed as interlaced and so give artefacts or degrade the quality of already very comppressed bonuses. I have also other issues but will PM you later, I'm working on them. It would be a tech/advanced option, but it would be fine to force a scan type/field order by footage. I know it's not the solution, but some footages are very strangely flagged without talking about studios that do mistakes on their proper authoring in flagging some footages as interlaced that are absolutly not, sometimes only your eyes can judge of them and prevent you artefacts or useless loss of quality.
If at least I could ask you to enhance the lastcmd.txt concept in adding a cmd file on the WORKFILES folder for each pass/footages as RipBot do, it would be already very useful. In waiting your app to be perfect, the WORKFILES folder and the rebuild function allow to analyse and correct any of these mistakes and is very very useful, it just miss the encode commands for each footages.

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 16:05
@setarip_old;
Yes, my standalone is a Sony S360.

@jdobbs;
Motherhood, as reported from Zot, shows MPEG-4 (AVC), 1080i, 29.97fps, and dgavcdec reports Frame Structure: MBAFF. So I am not sure if BD-RB is selecting the wrong field order or not, but playback is not smooth on scenes where the camera is panning, but jumpy. So forgive me if I assumed this was a field order issue.:confused:
BD-RB's avs says - AssumeFieldBased().AssumeTFF()

What is MBAFF?
Some Google searching does find this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=120317
Quite old though, so I am not sure why/how a field order is selected, nor do I need to know. :p
As long as BD-RB selects for me, I can just view my backups and enjoy! :) I'm not sure there is a connection to field order. Field/interlaced detection and handling, yes, but I don't see order...

I need to find some good docs on NAL in AVC so I can read picture information directly from the stream I guess. I already do that in VC-1 and MPEG-2.

sidneysides
17th April 2010, 16:05
Zot : Yeah there is a problem with the way interlaced footages are processed. I reported it but had any answer. I advise you to process interlaced footages as 'interlaced' in adding DEINTERLACE=0 in the options. If you see ghosty images in playing, it should be from the way your player process interlaced footages. Ever try to set your player deinterlace mode to BOB/Double framerate, it will play smoother and without frame blending/ghosty effects. If you feel images are jerky in motion it's certainly due to field order issue. BDR sometimes interprete and process with the wrong fields order, especially in BFF (Bottom Field First) interlaced VC1 sources. The only way (I think) is to edit the avs file with the good field order, but also create you own batch for x264 with the good interlaced flag --bff, and remux or try to rebuild with BDR if you set to keep workfiles.

So when yo are talking about getting the field order wrong, is then when you deinterlace or when you leave the interlacing as it is? In other words, if you set DEINTERLACE=0, do you need to worry about the field order?

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 16:12
jdobbs : Yeah, Stargate BD on 480i bonuses, that are bff and encoded by BDR as TFF and give jerky results. I don't know how you read the flags but mediainfo always give the good one. For more info I invite you to read the PM I sent you the March 28th, I'm also talking about the artefacts generated by decomb.dll, the fact that you encode as interlaced these decombed footages, some tff footages that are assumed bff on AVS and encoded as tff on x264 (but don't seems to have visual impact), and some strange VC1 that are flagged progressive but with a bff flag (Batman 1989) and don't seem to be pulldown or something and are interpreted as 480i on BDR (that in fact are not) and processed as interlaced and so give artefacts or degrade the quality of already very comppressed bonuses. I have also other issues but will PM you later, I'm working on them. It would be a tech/advanced option, but it would be fine to force a scan type/field order by footage. I know it's not the solution, but some footages are very strangely flagged without talking about studios that do mistakes on their proper authoring in flagging some footages as interlaced that are absolutly not, sometimes only your eyes can judge of them and prevent you artefacts or useless loss of quality.
If at least I could ask you to enhance the lastcmd.txt concept in adding a cmd file on the WORKFILES folder for each pass/footages as RipBot do, it would be already very useful. In waiting your app to be perfect, the WORKFILES folder and the rebuild function allow to analyse and correct any of these mistakes and is very very useful, it just miss the encode commands for each footages. I can understand the impact of deinterlacing with decomb. But that's not the same thing as detecting field order correctly. Frankly what mediainfo says is of little interest to me. If the stream says BFF -- then it is BFF. The stream controls playback, not mediainfo.

I'm going to go back and review all the interlaced processing code. There's probably a bug in there somewhere.

AVC assumptions wouldn't surprise me, as I'm not looking directly at the stream as I am in VC-1 and MPEG-2.

The determination as to whether it is 480i or 480p isn't BD-RB's call. It's defined by the source's stream descriptions in the CLPI and MPLS files. I have serious doubts that these are wrong. I'd question whatever software is telling you otherwise.

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 16:23
So when yo are talking about getting the field order wrong, is then when you deinterlace or when you leave the interlacing as it is? In other words, if you set DEINTERLACE=0, do you need to worry about the field order? You always have to worry about field order on an interlaced source. But the deinterlacing code (DEINTERLACE=1) certainly makes it a lot less worrisome. I'd recommend you not mess with things and let BD-RB do its job. If there is a bug, it will be fixed. Playing around with field order and understanding the impact of stream flags isn't something that should be experimented with by the uninitiated...

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 17:43
For more info I invite you to read the PM I sent you the March 28th Can you send it again? I accidentally deleted about 50 PMs and that was apparently one of them.

SoniG
17th April 2010, 18:22
jdobbs : arf, I was answering you. I answered you by PM in copying you my old one. It will be more productive and certainly too technical to be posted here.

sidneysides
17th April 2010, 19:04
You always have to worry about field order on an interlaced source. But the deinterlacing code (DEINTERLACE=1) certainly makes it a lot less worrisome. I'd recommend you not mess with things and let BD-RB do its job. If there is a bug, it will be fixed. Playing around with field order and understanding the impact of stream flags isn't something that should be experimented with by the uninitiated...

I remember the days of manual CCE and Scenarist and after waiting 2 days for it to endode finding out that the field order was wrong!

:devil:

sidneysides
17th April 2010, 20:13
Just wondered how good the new automatic quality setting is? I've always encoded to a BD25 from BD50 with 2 passes (default setting). Would I see much difference with the automatic setting, which, when I've tried it, uses only one pass? I'm sure 2 passes would be needed for a DVD9 but not sure how much improvememnt I would get over 1 pass with a BD25?

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 20:22
Just wondered how good the new automatic quality setting is? I've always encoded to a BD25 from BD50 with 2 passes (default setting). Would I see much difference with the automatic setting, which, when I've tried it, uses only one pass? I'm sure 2 passes would be needed for a DVD9 but not sure how much improvememnt I would get over 1 pass with a BD25? When writing to BD-25 I really don't think the virtually undedectable difference is worth the significant extra time. BD-RB looks at the total video length, though, and will do a two pass if it thinks it's necessary.

tandi
17th April 2010, 20:25
hi, i have this problem, any sugggestion ?
all in default setting

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zjmj4p.jpg

jdobbs
17th April 2010, 20:27
hi, i have this problem, any sugggestion ?
all in default setting

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zjmj4p.jpg Sure. Follow the instructions in the first post of this thread. You pretty much have the wrong version of all the support programs.

Zot
17th April 2010, 20:50
Zot : Yeah there is a problem with the way interlaced footages are processed. I reported it but had any answer. I advise you to process interlaced footages as 'interlaced' in adding DEINTERLACE=0 in the options..

OK - I extracted a 1 minute segment from the original source using TSMUXER as an AVCHD. Set force_encode=1, deinterlace=0. At least on the 1 minute test - the encode plays like the original. Set deinterlace=1 - have the ghosted images on panning.

JDOBBS - you have done an EXCELLENT job with BD Rebuilder so many thanks, I'm not complaining in the least; fortunately for me this is the first movie I've run across like this.

For now, I'll encode with de-interlace set to 0 and that should do the trick for me!

Thanks,

Zot

Capsbackup
17th April 2010, 23:51
You always have to worry about field order on an interlaced source. But the deinterlacing code (DEINTERLACE=1) certainly makes it a lot less worrisome. I'd recommend you not mess with things and let BD-RB do its job. If there is a bug, it will be fixed. Playing around with field order and understanding the impact of stream flags isn't something that should be experimented with by the uninitiated...

Just curious, but if I set DEINTERLACE=0 on a full backup to BD5/9, where the main movie is 29.97, 1080i, and is experiencing this jerky playback, but the extras have some 29.97, 1080i and some 23.976, 1080P, how will the 1080P files be treated?

k-c-ksum
18th April 2010, 00:15
has the encoding speed options changed. upgraded to latest version from .33.02. that version had a ultra slow HQ option that dosent appear in the latest version. Speed isnt an issue, i would rather an encode take 36 hours instead of 20 if it can squeeze an ounce more detail into the pic quality. Is this encode preset now hidden?

SoniG
18th April 2010, 00:21
Just curious, but if I set DEINTERLACE=0 on a full backup to BD5/9, where the main movie is 29.97, 1080i, and is experiencing this jerky playback, but the extras have some 29.97, 1080i and some 23.976, 1080P, how will the 1080P files be treated?
They will be treated and outputed as progressive, no worry. Most of issues come from 480 footages (and VC-1 format I would say). But here you say you have jerky playback on a 1080i footage (in motions I suppose) with no option (or DEINTERLACE=1), is that right?

Capsbackup
18th April 2010, 00:33
They will be treated and outputed as progressive, no worry. Most of issues come from 480 footages (and VC-1 format I would say). But here you say you have jerky playback on a 1080i footage (in motions I suppose) with no option (or DEINTERLACE=1), is that right?

Default was set, and playback was jerky on camera panning scenes. ( I guess default DEINTERLACE=1 )
I made a movie only backup of this 1080i, 29.97fps, avc video that experiences these issues.
Since the entire original BD-25 disc has only 1:59:38 of video, I was considering a full backup test to BD5 to burn to DVD+RW with DEINTERLACE=0. Just trying to see if this corrects the problem on the main movie, and if the extras will be ok, I may redo to a BD9 for higher quality.

f362580
18th April 2010, 00:39
I dont't know if it is a bug or just expected result of x264 ABR setting but I get constant 1-1.5Gb undersize when doing BD-25 movie only encode.

Also I want to know what settings BD rebuilder uses when doing "Automatic Quality Settings": ABR + good / better / high quality? It seems relatively fast (0.5x on my OC e6300) compared to manually set "high quality (default) + 1pass ABR", is it normal?

8ternity
18th April 2010, 00:45
@jdobbs:

I have make some tries to try to find what happen.

i have install the bew x264.exe version to know if it's the version of x264 has the trouble, and not.

i have also try to change mkvmerge with the newer version to check out if its that the trouble and not.

i asked you that question previoulsy what happen with my issue because i want to know if you need something precise that i need to change or do, and if you need more log or softwares informations.

Thank You, :thanks::thanks::thanks:

SoniG
18th April 2010, 01:14
Default was set, and playback was jerky on camera panning scenes. ( I guess default DEINTERLACE=1 )
I made a movie only backup of this 1080i, 29.97fps, avc video that experiences these issues.
Since the entire original BD-25 disc has only 1:59:38 of video, I was considering a full backup test to BD5 to burn to DVD+RW with DEINTERLACE=0. Just trying to see if this corrects the problem on the main movie, and if the extras will be ok, I may redo to a BD9 for higher quality.
Oh yeah I forgot that with DEINTERLACE=1 (so with no option), interlaced sources are deinterlaced but encoded and outputed as interlaced, that's why you have jerky playback. I already reported this to jdobbs.

jdobbs
18th April 2010, 02:56
Just curious, but if I set DEINTERLACE=0 on a full backup to BD5/9, where the main movie is 29.97, 1080i, and is experiencing this jerky playback, but the extras have some 29.97, 1080i and some 23.976, 1080P, how will the 1080P files be treated? DEINTERLACE only applies to interlaced sources.

jdobbs
18th April 2010, 02:57
has the encoding speed options changed. upgraded to latest version from .33.02. that version had a ultra slow HQ option that dosent appear in the latest version. Speed isnt an issue, i would rather an encode take 36 hours instead of 20 if it can squeeze an ounce more detail into the pic quality. Is this encode preset now hidden?It has to be something else -- the latest version is actually a bit faster.

tandi
18th April 2010, 04:05
hi, got it working, but got new message while reencoding video

' Audio and/or PGS size too large, probable oversize, continue ?"

what should i do then ?

8ternity
18th April 2010, 04:54
Resolved.

fabul
18th April 2010, 06:10
Hi,Thank you for your good work,

I have the same question as k-c-ksum

has the encoding speed options changed. upgraded to latest version from .33.02. that version had a ultra slow HQ option that dosent appear in the latest version. Speed isnt an issue, i would rather an encode take 36 hours instead of 20 if it can squeeze an ounce more detail into the pic quality. Is this encode preset now hidden?

I don't understand what you mean by "It has to be something else --"

I also noticed this in v.33.02 "Ultra high quality" and i like this option,it dissapears from the encoder options in some circumstances like when i change the BD custom size after choosing this option and i cannot find this option in v.33.04.

Sorry for my english,

Zot
18th April 2010, 07:52
Hi,Thank you for your good work,

I have the same question as k-c-ksum


....I also noticed this in v.33.02 "Ultra high quality" and i like this option,it dissapears from the encoder options in some circumstances like when i change the BD custom size after choosing this option and i cannot find this option in v.33.04.

Sorry for my english,

From what I understand, that option was 'accidently' enabled in 33.02. You can edit the config file and set encode_quality=4 to achieve the same thing. I just did "Mask of Zorro" from BD50 to BD25 at setting of 4 - looks like the original. However, I've taken BD25's to DVD5 at encode_quality=3 (Highest), and still can't tell the difference. So - not sure how much you will actually see for the extra 24 hours of encoding or so. (BTW - I've shown people the original BD and the DVD5 output from BD Rebuilder - hard pressed to see any difference on a 110" screen!)


Zot

k-c-ksum
18th April 2010, 09:24
It has to be something else -- the latest version is actually a bit faster.

there is no ultra slow option in .33.04 though. Default high quality and very slow, were as .33.02 had default, very slow and extremly slow. Or is the new very slow option in the latest build using a similar profile as the Extremely Slow from .33.02?


also while encoding i left resize and noise activated by mistake as i was watching some SD TV upscaled yesterday. Does BDRB over ride those settings or will the current project also have the resize and noise settings encoded into the video?

jdobbs
18th April 2010, 15:25
there is no ultra slow option in .33.04 though. Default high quality and very slow, were as .33.02 had default, very slow and extremly slow. Or is the new very slow option in the latest build using a similar profile as the Extremely Slow from .33.02?


also while encoding i left resize and noise activated by mistake as i was watching some SD TV upscaled yesterday. Does BDRB over ride those settings or will the current project also have the resize and noise settings encoded into the video? Sorry, I misread your post.

My opinion is that there is never an instance when that level of encoding is needed and that's why it doesn't show on the menu. That option has been there for almost a year now -- but because I think it wastes time, it was never meant to be a standard choice that is easily set. But you can still select it by adding the following line to your INI file:

ENCODE_QUALITY=4

"Automatic" has to be turned off before you modify the INI. Note, also, that if you change the quality level from the menu, it will overwrite what you manually set in the INI file.

What's the "noise" setting?

jdobbs
18th April 2010, 15:33
@8ternity

That's confusing, because I did "The Blide Side" with FFDSHOW r3326 and had no issues at all. Try reinstalling 3326 and see if it still causes issues. It's possible that all it needed was to be reinstalled for some reason.

tandi
18th April 2010, 17:23
hi jdobbs
i've tried 3 titles

-first title - after all process complete & burn with imgburn, test in bluray player and bluray rom , it worked

-second title - while reencoding video, got this message
' Audio and/or PGS size too large, probable oversize, continue ?"
i press yes to continue , after complete the result was 11 gb ( i was set it to BD-9)

-third title - after all complete , burn it, i test it in bluray player it can't play it, and in bluray rom got this message while try play it with powerDVD ' a disc with unsupported format '

any suggestion for these issue ?

raul124
18th April 2010, 18:29
It has to be something else -- the latest version is actually a bit faster.
:p Yes it is a faster version, take a look @Armored (movie only) it only literally took just under 3 hours. The picture quality excellent to the original.[22:16:04] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: ARMORED
- Input BD size: 20.33 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:27:53.268]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
[22:16:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:16:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [22:20:29] Reencoding: VID_00011 (1 of 1)
- [22:20:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 126,432 frames
- Bitrate: 10,961 Kbs
- [22:20:29] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:58:20] Video Encode complete
- [23:58:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:01:28] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:05:44]PHASE ONE complete
[00:05:44]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:05:44] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[00:10:19] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:10:20] BURNING BD structure to disc
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[01:09:49]JOB: ARMORED finished.

k-c-ksum
18th April 2010, 18:36
Sorry, I misread your post.

My opinion is that there is never an instance when that level of encoding is needed and that's why it doesn't show on the menu. That option has been there for almost a year now -- but because I think it wastes time, it was never meant to be a standard choice that is easily set. But you can still select it by adding the following line to your INI file:

ENCODE_QUALITY=4

"Automatic" has to be turned off before you modify the INI. Note, also, that if you change the quality level from the menu, it will overwrite what you manually set in the INI file.

What's the "noise" setting?

ffdshows noise filter. I use ffdshow to scale SD TV in realtime for live watching but forgot to switch the filter off when i had finished.


thanks for the encode_quality option. I only use that on stuff that is over two and a half hours or were the source is poor. Whats an extra 12 hours ontop of an encode :)

8ternity
18th April 2010, 19:28
@8ternity

That's confusing, because I did "The Blide Side" with FFDSHOW r3326 and had no issues at all. Try reinstalling 3326 and see if it still causes issues. It's possible that all it needed was to be reinstalled for some reason.

True. I reinstall the ffdshow 3326 and it has worked. :eek::confused::thanks:

kanerulz69
19th April 2010, 00:40
jdobbs if im playing on a 65in tv do you think its best using automatic quality settings or uncheck so it does a 2-pass? cause putting in the original blu ray disc and putting in my backup copy (doing automatic quality) it looks a lil different?
ps by the way im doing bd-25 output option

DK
19th April 2010, 00:55
Even on 25GB media I have more than once come across poor output quality when not using high or even highest quality!
Titles were Fireball (the underwater scenes were real crap with fast options!) or today the BBC documentary "Galapagos", where I tried "automatic quality" and went for high quality 1 pass abr later on as the automatic setting results were too poor even though the input was only~24.80gb down to 22.66gb.

I rather have some more time spent on the encoding than watching for the next blocky scene instead of enjoying HD worthy material.


BTW is there a thread for feature requests?

The following came to my mind:
- in batch mode it is not possible to delete an entry (I wanted to do so but had to stop the current process altogether)
- could more infos of a current conversion added to the corresponding log file like the quality setting used and the last command txt files content or the infos which inspect provides as I sometimes like to take a look which version was used for the encoding of XYZ
- recently I'd wished I was able to have one out of two audiostreams converted down to 448/640 but keep the other as is for a 25gb conversion

jdobbs
19th April 2010, 01:05
hi jdobbs
i've tried 3 titles

-first title - after all process complete & burn with imgburn, test in bluray player and bluray rom , it worked

-second title - while reencoding video, got this message
' Audio and/or PGS size too large, probable oversize, continue ?"
i press yes to continue , after complete the result was 11 gb ( i was set it to BD-9)

-third title - after all complete , burn it, i test it in bluray player it can't play it, and in bluray rom got this message while try play it with powerDVD ' a disc with unsupported format '

any suggestion for these issue ? second -- It did exactly as it warned. When you're trying to fit on a DVD-5 or DVD-9, you usually have to select only certain audio, as the combined size of all of audio tracks takes too much space away from the video. In this instance it was telling you that exactly.

third: Not all players support all full backups on DVD-5/9. The one you backed up probably had Java-base menus. Either that or the disc was questionable. What did you use to burn it?

For playback my recommendation is to get you hands on a Sony BDP-S360. It's very inexpensive and will play all formats.

jdobbs
19th April 2010, 01:07
True. I reinstall the ffdshow 3326 and it has worked. :eek::confused::thanks: It probably got corrupted somehow. Stranger things have happened. I'm just glad you got it working. :)

jdobbs
19th April 2010, 01:08
jdobbs if im playing on a 65in tv do you think its best using automatic quality settings or uncheck so it does a 2-pass? cause putting in the original blu ray disc and putting in my backup copy (doing automatic quality) it looks a lil different?
ps by the way im doing bd-25 output optionIt's up to you. But I think I have the "Automatic" pretty optimized now so you'll get good results.

jdobbs
19th April 2010, 01:10
Even on 25GB media I have more than once come across poor output quality when not using high or even highest quality!
Titles were Fireball (the underwater scenes were real crap with fast options!) or today the BBC documentary "Galapagos", where I tried "automatic quality" and went for high quality 1 pass abr later on as the automatic setting results were too poor even though the input was only~24.80gb down to 22.66gb.

I rather have some more time spent on the encoding than watching for the next blocky scene instead of enjoying HD worthy material.


BTW is there a thread for feature requests?

The following came to my mind:
- in batch mode it is not possible to delete an entry (I wanted to do so but had to stop the current process altogether)
- could more infos of a current conversion added to the corresponding log file like the quality setting used and the last command txt files content or the infos which inspect provides as I sometimes like to take a look which version was used for the encoding of XYZ
- recently I'd wished I was able to have one out of two audiostreams converted down to 448/640 but keep the other as is for a 25gb conversion You can remove from the list by right clicking on the choice and saying "Remove from Queue". I'll probably add some more choices to the audio "right-click" selections that will include individually choosing encode options.

kanerulz69
19th April 2010, 03:13
It's up to you. But I think I have the "Automatic" pretty optimized now so you'll get good results.

But do you think i would see better quality results if i did the 2 pass instead? cause i see some blocky parts

tandi
19th April 2010, 06:09
how did i know if it Java-base menus ?
and how i can make it work ?
i use LG bluray player, to burn i use pioneer & LG , and burn with imgburn
with Verbatim disc

i have success using this verbatim blank and can play it smoothly in rom or player with first title

can you suggest what should i do now to make it play ?

setarip_old
19th April 2010, 08:11
@tandi

Hi![how did i know if it Java-base menus ?
The "BDMV" folder will include sub-folders named "BDJO" and "JAR" - and these sub-folders will NOT be empty...

DK
19th April 2010, 13:19
You can remove from the list by right clicking on the choice and saying "Remove from Queue".

I thought of this options but I was not able to!

Will test it again if you say it should have been possible.


++++++++++

Retried batch mode with two conversions added.
Started batch mode and I am definitely NOT able to do anything with a rightclick to the second process, which is not running yet!

v 33.04 / XP Pro 32

jdobbs
19th April 2010, 13:43
But do you think i would see better quality results if i did the 2 pass instead? cause i see some blocky parts If you see blocky parts, I would do a two-pass encode. But can you give me more details? What bitrate were you seeing for the subject video? I want to make sure I tweak "Automatic" so you never see a difference. "Automatic" should only select one-pass when the size/bitrate of the source is at a point where you doesn't visibly affect the encode.

jdobbs
19th April 2010, 13:48
how did i know if it Java-base menus ?
and how i can make it work ?
i use LG bluray player, to burn i use pioneer & LG , and burn with imgburn
with Verbatim disc

i have success using this verbatim blank and can play it smoothly in rom or player with first title

can you suggest what should i do now to make it play ? You will see files in BDMV\JAR folder. There really isn't much I can do -- the problem is that your player doesn't support java menus in BD-9. Your only choice would be to burn to BD-25 instead of BD-5/9. Some players won't play BD-5/9 full-backups at all. At least yours appears to play the non-java ones. All BD-25 backups should work on all players. All movie-only backups should work on players that support AVCHD. But not all players will handle full backups on BD-5/9.

Just to be careful, though, I'm only assuming that this is the issue... There's also a chance it could be the format in which it was burned, the disc, or other things. I'm doing remote analysis here -- which is always dangerous.

Did you burn manually, or did BD-RB send the burn directly to ImgBurn? The reason I ask is that there are some specific configuration parameters that have to be set in ImgBurn in order to make the disc work.

jdobbs
19th April 2010, 13:52
I thought of this options but I was not able to!

Will test it again if you say it should have been possible.


++++++++++

Retried batch mode with two conversions added.
Started batch mode and I am definitely NOT able to do anything with a rightclick to the second process, which is not running yet!

v 33.04 / XP Pro 32

You can't modify the queue while work is being done.

drmih
19th April 2010, 18:34
You will see files in BDMV\JAR folder. There really isn't much I can do -- the problem is that your player doesn't support java menus in BD-9. Your only choice would be to burn to BD-25 instead of BD-5/9. Some players won't play BD-5/9 full-backups at all. At least yours appears to play the non-java ones. All BD-25 backups should work on all players. All movie-only backups should work on players that support AVCHD. But not all players will handle full backups on BD-5/9.

Just to be careful, though, I'm only assuming that this is the issue... There's also a chance it could be the format in which it was burned, the disc, or other things. I'm doing remote analysis here -- which is always dangerous.

Did you burn manually, or did BD-RB send the burn directly to ImgBurn? The reason I ask is that there are some specific configuration parameters that have to be set in ImgBurn in order to make the disc work.

I have tried on an LG and can confirm that bd-9 discs with java are rejected. They work fine on bd-r or bd-re, so it is definitely a player limitation.

tandi
19th April 2010, 18:42
yeah it have BDMV\JAR folder

and you said ' I'm doing remote analysis here ' not understand what you mean

and i burn it manually
and for the first title, i use same blank disc, same burning rom and same player, but it work

can you suggest what should i do ? cause i really need to make backup to BD-9

kanerulz69
19th April 2010, 19:34
If you see blocky parts, I would do a two-pass encode. But can you give me more details? What bitrate were you seeing for the subject video? I want to make sure I tweak "Automatic" so you never see a difference. "Automatic" should only select one-pass when the size/bitrate of the source is at a point where you doesn't visibly affect the encode.

[06:34:44] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: THE_LORD_OF_THE_RINGS_THE_TWO_TOWERS
- Input BD size: 37.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:39.623]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6000]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[06:34:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [06:34:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [06:35:01] Reencoding: VID_00022 (1 of 5)
- [06:35:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,521 frames
- [06:35:01] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:38:46] Video Encode complete
- [06:38:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:38:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:38:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [06:39:16] Reencoding: VID_00040 (2 of 5)
- [06:39:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,954 frames
- [06:39:16] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:42:22] Video Encode complete
- [06:42:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:42:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:42:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [06:43:03] Reencoding: VID_00009 (3 of 5)
- [06:43:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,499 frames
- [06:43:03] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:47:49] Video Encode complete
- [06:47:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:47:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:48:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [06:49:14] Reencoding: VID_00021 (4 of 5)
- [06:49:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,588 frames
- [06:49:14] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [06:59:28] Video Encode complete
- [06:59:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:59:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:59:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [08:23:21] Reencoding: VID_00005 (5 of 5)
- [08:23:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 258,096 frames
- Bitrate: 11,613 Kbs
- [08:23:21] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:41:46] Video Encode complete
- [18:41:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:41:46] Multiplexing M2TS
[19:29:52]PHASE ONE complete
[19:29:52]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:29:52] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[19:30:37] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[19:30:37]JOB: THE_LORD_OF_THE_RINGS_THE_TWO_TOWERS finished.

setarip_old
19th April 2010, 19:34
@tandicause i really need to make backup to BD-9What does your "need" have to do with reporting bugs?

tandi
19th April 2010, 19:43
sorry, cause i don't know where i can ask for my issue

sa2k9
19th April 2010, 20:03
I don't know if this is already answered, but...

is there any way I can define a separate hard drive as "Destination Path", apart from Source Path and Working Path?

This is from a 2 x 1TB 7200 RPM SATA2 Stripe 0 volume:

- [10:46:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:11:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]

About 23 minutes of multiplexing.

Where as the same task is finished in about 6 minutes on a 2 x 146GB SAS 15K RPM Stipe 0 volume:

TIA.

daberti
19th April 2010, 20:27
@jdobbs
Thanks for your wonderful software.
I've a question since it a long time I visited this thread.
What is the difference among One Pass CRF and One Pass ABR?

Thanks

woodman
19th April 2010, 21:10
I assume you have "Quick Code for Extras" selected. Since it uses a fixed CRF for different output sizes, it can randomly happen that way... the only alternative is to deselect it.

Thanks jdobbs, i'm getting great picture quality with one pass mode (Automatic Setting), even on 45GB movies.

8ternity
19th April 2010, 23:22
Hello Jdobbs!

x264.exe crashed during conversion of this bluray:
BAD_LIEUTENANT

here the 1rst try:

-----------------------
[18:11:32] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: FULLDISC
- Input BD size: 23,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:11:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:11:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [18:11:33] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
- [18:11:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
- Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
- [18:11:33] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[18:11:58]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[18:15:18] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: FULLDISC
- Input BD size: 23,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:15:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:15:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [18:15:22] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
- [18:15:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
- Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
- [18:15:22] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.



[Status]
LABEL=FULLDISC
VERSION=v0.33.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24999965565
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24807383040
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.972870884288164
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00006]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=19761016
RATE=14585


It crashed again and again.

i've got this message in the inspector:


-----------------------
[18:19:42] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: FULLDISC
- Input BD size: 23,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:19:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:19:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [18:19:45] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
- [18:19:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
- Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
- [18:19:45] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- X264: Wrong version found
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[18:20:54] - Failed video encode, aborted


What should i do to resolving the x264 version?

Edit: x264 --help
version: x264 core:92 r1523 25ca5b0
test also x264 core: 93 r1538 bd72d46

8ternity
19th April 2010, 23:35
I have try this change and it works:

- Uninstall/Reinstall ffdshow 3326
- update x264.exe for rev 1542

at 2% now and not crashed. After conversion done, i will retry the old x264.exe.

I will give you some news. :thanks:

Nerz
20th April 2010, 00:01
I've have now been able to back up a number of blu-rays now. For that, thank you very much jdobbs, your work has been great. I am now only having one problem so far, my blu-rays re-encode, burn fine, from what i can tell. On my ps3 and my vizio blu-ray players the movies play and look great. Though its not a big problem but there is one blu-ray which i don't use that much anymore, bdp-s301 that will not play the bd-r25 backups. It says can't play disc, or no disc in tray. At first I ignored it because before the firmware update it said it was not bd-r compliant. The lastest firmware update did state it added this: "Compatibility with BD-R/RE discs burned by the Click to Disc™ and Click to Disc™ Editor software included with some VAIO® computers". I don't have this software but I have a hard time believing that only that software has the capabilities the record data that my blu-ray player can play. Since it's not a much used player it won't be big deal if get it working, just would be nice. Yes it does play original blu-rays

jdobbs
20th April 2010, 00:05
Hello Jdobbs!

x264.exe crashed during conversion of this bluray:
BAD_LIEUTENANT

here the 1rst try:

-----------------------
[18:11:32] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: FULLDISC
- Input BD size: 23,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:11:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:11:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [18:11:33] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
- [18:11:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
- Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
- [18:11:33] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[18:11:58]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[18:15:18] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: FULLDISC
- Input BD size: 23,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:15:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:15:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [18:15:22] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
- [18:15:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
- Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
- [18:15:22] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.



[Status]
LABEL=FULLDISC
VERSION=v0.33.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24999965565
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24807383040
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.972870884288164
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00006]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=19761016
RATE=14585


It crashed again and again.

i've got this message in the inspector:


-----------------------
[18:19:42] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: FULLDISC
- Input BD size: 23,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:19:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:19:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [18:19:45] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
- [18:19:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
- Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
- [18:19:45] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- X264: Wrong version found
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[18:20:54] - Failed video encode, aborted


What should i do to resolving the x264 version?

Edit: x264 --help
version: x264 core:92 r1523 25ca5b0
test also x264 core: 93 r1538 bd72d46 You upgraded X264 on your own and caused the error. Downgrade, and don't report problems that you cause for yourself.

The new X264 version has a bug related to sizing when it gets its input from an AVS... next time wait until I upgrade in the release -- that way you know it has been tested. This is a self inflicted injury.

Dark Shikari
20th April 2010, 00:11
The new X264 version has a bug related to sizing when it gets its input from an AVS... next time wait until I upgrade in the release -- that way you know it has been tested. This is a self inflicted injury.What bug?

x264 will weave field-based sources. This is a good thing; previously, they would be interpreted wrong. Do you want the old broken behavior back where field-based sources get interpreted as alternating-field half-vertical-res progressive videos?

jdobbs
20th April 2010, 00:14
What bug?

x264 will weave field-based sources. This is a good thing; previously, they would be interpreted wrong. Do you want the old broken behavior back? I was just about to PM you. It's definitely there. If you feed a 720x480 interlaced source into X264 via an AVS with the latest version the output is 720x960.

I'll PM you, but I have to do it in about an hour (gotta run). I have an example command line, source, and AVS file.

You're not implying this is something you wanted to happen are you? I can understand weaving two fields -- but why would you weave what appears to be two frames?

Dark Shikari
20th April 2010, 00:17
I was just about to PM you. It's definitely there. If you feed a 720x480 interlaced source into X264 via an AVS with the latest version the output is 720x960.

I'll PM you, but I have to do it in about an hour (gotta run). I have an example command line, source, and AVS file.

You're not implying this is something you wanted to happen are you? I can understand weaving two fields -- but why would you weave what appears to be two frames?x264 will weave if the field-based flag is set. That is, if you used SeparateFields() or AssumeFieldBased().

If you set AssumeFieldBased on a frame-based input, you are doing it wrong.

jdobbs
20th April 2010, 00:49
x264 will weave if the field-based flag is set. That is, if you used SeparateFields() or AssumeFieldBased().

If you set AssumeFieldBased on a frame-based input, you are doing it wrong. You may be right -- but the encode works perfectly when you switch back to r1142. The point I was making in the post above is that the error is caused by the poster upgrading to the new version before I am able to test the new one.

As per the AVISYNTH docs, I used "AssumeFieldBased()" because that's the only way you can tell AVISYNTH the field order of the source. It didn't cause an issue until now.

From the AVISYNTH docs:
However, this information isn't necessarily correct, because field information usually isn't stored in video files and AviSynth's source filters just guess at it. AssumeFrameBased and AssumeFieldBased let you tell AviSynth the correct type of a clip.

Either way -- BD Rebuilder doesn't work with the new version. Now that I can define bff/tff in the command line I don't really need to do this anymore anyway.

Dark Shikari
20th April 2010, 00:56
You may be right -- but the encode works perfectly when you switch back to r1142. The point I was making in the post above is that the error is caused by the poster upgrading to the new version before I am able to test the new one.

Either way -- BD Rebuilder doesn't work with the new version.Check your Avisynth scripts. If you can recreate a case in which:

a) you are not using AssumeFieldBased
b) you are not using weird complex scripts that you don't control

and it triggers, post a test case and we'll fix it.

As per the AVISYNTH docs, I used "AssumeFieldBased()" because that's the only way you can tell AVISYNTH the field order of the source. It didn't cause an issue until now.I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do that unless you actually have separate fields. I imagine this could break a lot of filters internally as well.

jdobbs
20th April 2010, 01:02
Check your Avisynth scripts. If you can recreate a case in which:

a) you are not using AssumeFieldBased
b) you are not using weird complex scripts that you don't control

and it triggers, post a test case and we'll fix it.

I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do that unless you actually have separate fields. I imagine this could break a lot of filters internally as well.

No big deal. I've already removed AssumeFieldBased() for the next release. In the older versions of X264 all I had was "interlaced" and AVISYNTH could sometimes be wrong about BFF sources. I can tell X264 the field order on the command line now.

Zot
20th April 2010, 04:10
jdobbs if im playing on a 65in tv do you think its best using automatic quality settings or uncheck so it does a 2-pass? cause putting in the original blu ray disc and putting in my backup copy (doing automatic quality) it looks a lil different?
ps by the way im doing bd-25 output option

For those that keep asking “what encode setting should I use” I ran a test using “Enemy At the Gates”

The original is a 40GB move that I shrunk to 25GB – a reduction of 39% according to BD-Rebuilder (after excluding all the unneeded audio and subtitles).

I cut a 2 minute segment from the opening sequence when they are crossing the water in boats and getting all shot up. This is a good reference clip because it has facial close-ups, explosions, fast panning, CGI (airplanes strafing the boats), bold colors (explosions, blood) distance shots and text on paper. After stripping all but the video, I ended up with a 500MB file. I then forced encoding using a custom output size to retain the 39% reduction and encoded with 4 different settings (all 2 pass). Encode was set to 0,1,2,3 and 4. The resulting files are about 235MB each (I know the percentages don’t seem to add up, but BD-Rebuilder’s inf files confirmed the target reductions were the same: REDUCTION=.611948951309969

The resulting encode times and min/max bit rates are as follows (from BD-INFO):

Length......Avg.Video.Rate.kbps.....Max.1-Sec.Rate.kbps.....Encode_Quality............total.time
01:59.8....32,948.............................47,978..............................Original.clip............N/A
01:59.8....15,008.............................22,730..............................0..........................0:08:26
01:59.8....14,936.............................28,042..............................1..........................0:15:47
01:59.8....14,933.............................28,057..............................2..........................0:17:36
01:59.8....14,950.............................27,692..............................3..........................0:23:47
01:59.8....14,930............................28,106...............................4.........................0:48:33

Encode Quality does spread the average/max bit rates a bit as I expected. My test PC is an Intel E6750 (core 2 duo @2.66GHz), 2GB RAM @667MHz, Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit). Note that encode level 4 took 6 times as long as level 0.
I watched each output clip on an LG BD370 player connected to an LG 50’ 720P plasma TV. (I also have a PS3 connected to a Panasonic AE3000 projector with a 120’ screen I’ll test later EDIT: I also tested with the PS3/AE3000 setup - can't tell between clips.).

I had to check the file names to see which encode version I was watching as I could not tell the difference between all 5 clips. Freezing the screen during closeup shots and during explosions allowed me to see MINOR differences (more discernable facial hair, a little more detail in exploded pieces). So –if the extra time is of no consequence, you will get a SLIGHTLY better picture with higher encode values, but only if you scrutinize the image.

I know some people will argue that the overall bitrates will suffer and picture quality is therefore inherently worse with lower quality values. The human eye isn’t that good of a detector, even if the numbers indicate a difference.

I will gladly FTP the config and .m2ts files to anyone who wants to analyze further (I don’t have ability to capture good photos from the screen).

Z

PS - I will try compression to equal to DVD-5 and see what that output looks like next.

8ternity
20th April 2010, 05:31
Hello jdobbs:

ive converted with version 33.04 *stock* reintall original version; and converted BAD_LIEUTENANT bluray version and all bonus features are too stretched and audio is out of sync.

i have restored ffdshow 3326 and stock x264 version. movie is okay, not stretched or out of sync, only bonus features. I see that bonus features are 720 x 480 SDTV resolution.

Here example with mediainfos original and converted files:

00009.m2ts (orignal)

General
ID : 0
Complete name : E:\BDR\BAD_LIEUTENANT\FULLDISC\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 2.90 GiB
Duration : 31mn 11s
Overall bit rate : 13.3 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 31mn 11s
Bit rate : 12.5 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.211
Stream size : 2.73 GiB (94%)
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics : BT.601-6 525, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 525, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 31mn 11s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 224 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 50.0 MiB (2%)



00009.m2ts (converted)

General
ID : 1
Complete name : E:\BDR\BAD_LIEUTENANT\BD REBUILDED\REBUILDED 3304\FULLDISC\BDMV\STREAM\00009.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 842 MiB
Duration : 31mn 11s
Overall bit rate : 3 776 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Duration : 31mn 9s
Bit rate : 3 393 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 960 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 0.909
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.164
Stream size : 756 MiB (90%)
Writing library : x264 core 93 r1538 bd72d46
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=0:0:0 / analyse=0:0 / me=dia / subme=0 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=tff / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=0 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=0 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=0 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=22.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=35000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / crf-max=0.0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=0 / nal_hrd=vbr

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 31mn 11s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 224 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 50.0 MiB (6%)
Language : English / /



Here projetcts logs:


-----------------------
[23:00:49] BD Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Source: FULLDISC
- Input BD size: 23,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:00:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:00:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [23:00:50] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
- [23:00:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
- Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
- [23:00:50] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:01:00] Video Encode complete
- [23:01:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:01:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:01:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [23:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00013 (2 of 7)
- [23:01:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 3*837 frames
- [23:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:01:24] Video Encode complete
- [23:01:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:01:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:01:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [23:01:35] Reencoding: VID_00011 (3 of 7)
- [23:01:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3*649 frames
- [23:01:35] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:02:53] Video Encode complete
- [23:02:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:02:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:02:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [23:03:40] Reencoding: VID_00008 (4 of 7)
- [23:03:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 24*727 frames
- [23:03:40] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:06:27] Video Encode complete
- [23:06:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:06:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:06:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [23:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00012 (5 of 7)
- [23:07:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 37*048 frames
- [23:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:10:21] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [23:11:54] Reencoding: VID_00009 (6 of 7)
- [23:11:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 56*084 frames
- [23:11:54] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:17:25] Video Encode complete
- [23:17:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:17:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:17:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [23:26:04] Reencoding: VID_00000 (7 of 7)
- [23:26:04] Collecting video information
- [23:26:04] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [23:26:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:26:04] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:35:12]PHASE ONE complete
[23:35:12]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:35:12] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:35:17] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[23:35:18]JOB: FULLDISC finished.


Fulldisc Infos (Conversion log):

[Status]
LABEL=FULLDISC
VERSION=v0.33.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24999965565
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24807383040
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.972870884288164
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=7
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00006]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=19761016
RATE=14585
NSIZE=19826688
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00013]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=138392860
NSIZE=45778944
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=352841124
NSIZE=141613056
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00008]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1453283431
NSIZE=270833664
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00012]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1613045205
NSIZE=310444032
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00009]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3028043910
NSIZE=883156992
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=22462727299
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=18000046080
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

8ternity
20th April 2010, 05:50
You upgraded X264 on your own and caused the error. Downgrade, and don't report problems that you cause for yourself.

The new X264 version has a bug related to sizing when it gets its input from an AVS... next time wait until I upgrade in the release -- that way you know it has been tested. This is a self inflicted injury.

Yes i understand. I've made just some test after trying the official released 33.04! i just want to find the trouble and trying to help you.

It's with some research that we found and resolved issues. I will submit you with official release from this issue.

Thank You.

steveg32
20th April 2010, 10:29
@tandi

You will see files in BDMV\JAR folder. There really isn't much I can do -- the problem is that your player doesn't support java menus in BD-9. Your only choice would be to burn to BD-25 instead of BD-5/9. Some players won't play BD-5/9 full-backups at all. At least yours appears to play the non-java ones. All BD-25 backups should work on all players. All movie-only backups should work on players that support AVCHD. But not all players will handle full backups on BD-5/9.

Just to be careful, though, I'm only assuming that this is the issue... There's also a chance it could be the format in which it was burned, the disc, or other things. I'm doing remote analysis here -- which is always dangerous.

Did you burn manually, or did BD-RB send the burn directly to ImgBurn? The reason I ask is that there are some specific configuration parameters that have to be set in ImgBurn in order to make the disc work.

Re: BD-5 & BD-9 playback problems on standalone Blu-ray players.

Also, make sure your burner drive & DVD+R/+R DL disc's Book Type are set to "Normal" and not "DVD-ROM". Many standalone B-R players cannot read BD-5 (DVD+R) & BD-9 (DVD+R DL) discs with a Book Type of "DVD-ROM". In ImgBurn, to check & change Book Type, go to > Tools > Drive > Change Book Type. This fixed all my playback issues regardless of what brand DVD+R/+R DL I burned on (although I only recommend Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden media). Good luck!

@jdobbs
U Da Bes! Mahalo brah!:)

tandi
20th April 2010, 17:53
@steveg32

i've change Change Book Type to normal, & i've use verbatim
but still get same problem ' a disc with unsupported format '

Ch3vr0n
20th April 2010, 19:02
Well then the probable cause is that your player doesnt support BD5/9

drmih
20th April 2010, 19:31
yeah it have BDMV\JAR folder

and you said ' I'm doing remote analysis here ' not understand what you mean

and i burn it manually
and for the first title, i use same blank disc, same burning rom and same player, but it work

can you suggest what should i do ? cause i really need to make backup to BD-9

It's quite straight forward - LG players (well the one I have) will only play compressed blu ray movies on either dvd-5 or dvd+dl if they don't have java implemented. Therefore, if there is anything in the CERTIFICATE directory (it may be there but empty) or files in the BDMV\JAR, then it won't play. It's nothing to do with settings or how you burn discs. However, if you put the files (whatever their size) on a bd-r or bd-re, then they are fine.

If you mention a title that won't play, then I'm sure one of us will confirm whether it's got java. Once again, if you play the original, and there is a point at the beginning when it has an icon or picture on the screen that either slowly changes colour, gets filled in, or does something for typically 10 to 20 seconds, then that is the java loading.

kanerulz69
20th April 2010, 19:44
For those that keep asking “what encode setting should I use” I ran a test using “Enemy At the Gates"
so you believe that automatic doenst seem that much difference in your opinion as to 2pass mode?

Zot
20th April 2010, 21:31
so you believe that automatic doenst seem that much difference in your opinion as to 2pass mode?

Actually, that's a good point - I was using all 2 pass tests. I personally can see a SLIGHT difference in a 1 pass vs 2 pass test. I just did the same clip, using the same ratio (39%) with automatic quality (1 pass ABR). A few scenes with lots of smoke billowing in the background looked a little blocky. Smoke and Fire tend to be where it can be noticeable becuase neither has discrete boundaries - its all shades of color and rapidly moving/changing. But that's me :-). Ultimately, do what's best for you. I posted test results so that you can get an idea of how long each takes and what you might see. Some movies I get I'll make a dvd5 backup as the quality of the original wasn't that great to begin with and a DVD5 looks just as good (i.e. Predators - great movie but very grainy). Others I want to maintain absolute pristine one-to-one backup (i.e. Patton) because the original is stunning in PQ. Balancing cost of blanks, time to convert, etc.

I recommend you take a favorite movie, use TSMUXER to cut a short clip (1-2 minutes) and try different encoding qualities to see what works best in your particular viewing environment.

Z

jdobbs
20th April 2010, 22:48
so you believe that automatic doenst seem that much difference in your opinion as to 2pass mode? You have to be careful in your description, because "Automatic" often is two-pass mode...

Zot
20th April 2010, 23:00
You have to be careful in your description, because "Automatic" often is two-pass mode...

You are correct :-) In this case it resulted in 1 pass but yes, I have seen 2 pass as well.

BTW - I noticed that even taking a 25GB Blu Ray movie down to AVCHD-5 STILL looks better than the same movie as a DVD on dual layer :-). You've made a great product - many thanks!

Z

meadrocks
20th April 2010, 23:13
You have to be careful in your description, because "Automatic" often is two-pass mode...

How do we know what settings Automatic will pick for a given movie? Can we right click on the stream & get that info?

jdobbs
20th April 2010, 23:38
How do we know what settings Automatic will pick for a given movie? Can we right click on the stream & get that info? You can deselect "Automatic" and you'll see the settings that were selected. The settings aren't different for individual streams (except when you've selected "Quick Encode for Extras") -- they are set based upon the complete content of the disc that will be encoded and the space that is available for output. The bitrate, however, would change from stream to stream based upon the allocation on the original disc.

steveg32
21st April 2010, 00:07
@steveg32

i've change Change Book Type to normal, & i've use verbatim
but still get same problem ' a disc with unsupported format '

Then you should burn to BD-25 instead of BD-5/9.

jdobbs
21st April 2010, 00:45
Then you should burn to BD-25 instead of BD-5/9. Or do movie-only to BD-5/9.

meadrocks
21st April 2010, 00:49
You can deselect "Automatic" and you'll see the settings that were selected. The settings aren't different for individual streams (except when you've selected "Quick Encode for Extras") -- they are set based upon the complete content of the disc that will be encoded and the space that is available for output. The bitrate, however, would change from stream to stream based upon the allocation on the original disc.

I typically do Movie Only to dvd5 or dvd9. Thanks for the reply.

kanerulz69
21st April 2010, 01:41
You have to be careful in your description, because "Automatic" often is two-pass mode...

out of all the bd rebuilder betas i have tried only the recent one i have used automatic and i have done all 3 lord of the ring blu-rays and 2012 blu-ray (usa versions) and the automatic button did all 4 movies in 1pass mode, and i have looked at all of the final results and it seems when i use to do the movies with 2pass i can tell alot of difference in the movie, i hate that cause it really does the movie alot faster, i can start a movie at night and in the afternoon its done, and with 2 pass its about 24hrs or more, so i dunno if in time 1 pass will show the same great results as 2pass or not do you?

jdobbs
21st April 2010, 01:53
out of all the bd rebuilder betas i have tried only the recent one i have used automatic and i have done all 3 lord of the ring blu-rays and 2012 blu-ray (usa versions) and the automatic button did all 4 movies in 1pass mode, and i have looked at all of the final results and it seems when i use to do the movies with 2pass i can tell alot of difference in the movie, i hate that cause it really does the movie alot faster, i can start a movie at night and in the afternoon its done, and with 2 pass its about 24hrs or more, so i dunno if in time 1 pass will show the same great results as 2pass or not do you? I'm still playing with settings for "Automatic" and will be tweaking it over the next few versions. In the meantime you may want to try setting the bias a little higher by using:

AUTO_BIAS=2

From the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file:

AUTO_BIAS=n -- n = 0/1/2 - Default= 1, Auto Quality bias, 0=higher speed, 1=normal, 2=higher quality

It's in the eye of the beholder -- but I personally don't see a lot of difference between one-pass and two-pass on BD-25 encodes, where it is very obvious in challenging BD-5/9 backups.

You may want to try a compromise like Good-Quality/2 pass or High-Quality/1 pass.

tandi
21st April 2010, 03:34
@Ch3vr0n
@steveg32
my player support BD5/9, cause i have tried another title and it play smoothly in BD5, but then i try other 2 titles, got this problem
not only my player can't play it also my Bluray writer show this problem ' a disc with unsupported format '
so i mean , after i burn with imgburn, i play it in my lg bluray rom, it got this message ' a disc with unsupported format '
if play in standalone player it will reject

@jdobbs
you said ' Or do movie-only to BD-5/9. '
is it mean i only get movie only, and no menu , etc ?

Zot
21st April 2010, 04:11
I'm still playing with settings for "Automatic" and will be tweaking it over the next few versions. In the meantime you may want to try setting the bias a little higher by using:

AUTO_BIAS=2



Any downside to setting bias to 2? Longer encoding time or are there potential image quality trade-offs?

Thanks,

Z

Nerz
21st April 2010, 04:33
I've have now been able to back up a number of blu-rays now. For that, thank you very much jdobbs, your work has been great. I am now only having one problem so far, my blu-rays re-encode, burn fine, from what i can tell. On my ps3 and my vizio blu-ray players the movies play and look great. Though its not a big problem but there is one blu-ray which i don't use that much anymore, bdp-s301 that will not play the bd-r25 backups. It says can't play disc, or no disc in tray. At first I ignored it because before the firmware update it said it was not bd-r compliant. The lastest firmware update did state it added this: "Compatibility with BD-R/RE discs burned by the Click to Disc™ and Click to Disc™ Editor software included with some VAIO® computers". I don't have this software but I have a hard time believing that only that software has the capabilities the record data that my blu-ray player can play. Since it's not a much used player it won't be big deal if get it working, just would be nice. Yes it does play original blu-rays

Just wondering, could it be because of LTH type discs? I'm using verbatim 2x bd-r LTH. Does anyone know if the BDP S301 supports LTH? I can get these discs for about $35 for 20. Any other mediums close in price?

Zot
21st April 2010, 05:25
Just wondering, could it be because of LTH type discs? I'm using verbatim 2x bd-r LTH. Does anyone know if the BDP S301 supports LTH? I can get these discs for about $35 for 20. Any other mediums close in price?

LTH doesn't work with all players. If these are Verbatim LTH, you can find a list of compatible players here:

http://www.verbatim.com/userfiles/file/BDR_LTHCompatibility.pdf

Also suggest this post should be moved as this is not a BD RB bug.

drmih
21st April 2010, 08:14
@Ch3vr0n
@steveg32
my player support BD5/9, cause i have tried another title and it play smoothly in BD5, but then i try other 2 titles, got this problem
not only my player can't play it also my Bluray writer show this problem ' a disc with unsupported format '
so i mean , after i burn with imgburn, i play it in my lg bluray rom, it got this message ' a disc with unsupported format '
if play in standalone player it will reject

@jdobbs
you said ' Or do movie-only to BD-5/9. '
is it mean i only get movie only, and no menu , etc ?

I don't usually repost but please READ the following I said earlier:

It's quite straight forward - LG players (well the one I have) will only play compressed blu ray movies on either dvd-5 or dvd+dl if they don't have java implemented. Therefore, if there is anything in the CERTIFICATE directory (it may be there but empty) or files in the BDMV\JAR, then it won't play. It's nothing to do with settings or how you burn discs. However, if you put the files (whatever their size) on a bd-r or bd-re, then they are fine.

If you mention a title that won't play, then I'm sure one of us will confirm whether it's got java. Once again, if you play the original, and there is a point at the beginning when it has an icon or picture on the screen that either slowly changes colour, gets filled in, or does something for typically 10 to 20 seconds, then that is the java loading.

... and yes he does mean movie only and obviously this has no menu.

graffight
21st April 2010, 08:33
hope you's can help i'm re-ecoding 40GB saving private ryan to bd25 using the latest version of bd-rebuilder i've used the same settings all the versions of bd-rebuilder i've had for eg. i do not tick the quicker encode for extras, i always use full movie and i now use automatic quality settings.

But for some reason on this particular film its creating the image at the right size and everything but when i put in the ps3 instead of it coming up as BDMV it states AVCHD.CO.UK and the disc loads the intro but the main movie won't play.

I just wondered if anyone has come across it before its only happened since I started using the latest version.

I am also using the recommended versions of FFDSHOW,Matroska Splitter and Avisynth off your first page.

thanks guys

top product by the way Jdobbs

deank
21st April 2010, 08:57
But for some reason on this particular film its creating the image at the right size and everything but when i put in the ps3 instead of it coming up as BDMV it states AVCHD.CO.UK and the disc loads the intro but the main movie won't play.

Probably because you downloaded the movie from avchd.co.uk site.

hautem
21st April 2010, 10:56
I'm still playing with settings for "Automatic" and will be tweaking it over the next few versions. In the meantime you may want to try setting the bias a little higher by using:

AUTO_BIAS=2

A little confused and just looking for clarification:

AUTO_QUALITY=n n = 0/1 - Default=1?, 0=Off, 1=On (Menu Selectable)
AUTO_BIAS=n n = 0/1/2 - Default= 1, Auto Quality bias, 0=higher speed, 1=normal, 2=higher quality (From the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file)
ENCODE_QUALITY=n n = 0/1/2/3 - Default= 2, 0=Good (Very Fast), 1=Better (Fast), 2=High Quality (Default), 3=Highest (Very Slow) (Menu Selectable)
ONEPASS_ENCODING=n n=0/1 - 0=One Pass (CRF) Encoding, 1=One Pass (ABR) Encoding (Menu Selectable)

Is there a difference between AUTO_BIAS and ENCODE_QUALITY or is AUTO_BIAS an extension of ENCODE_QUALITY when having chosen AUTO_QUALITY=1?

I've noticed on sources in the 25-30GB range (e.g. "The Bad Lieutenant", "Dr. Strangelove") targeted to full disc BD9, that "Automatic" is selecting ENCODE_QUALITY=0 Good (Very Fast) and ONEPASS_ENCODING=1 (1-Pass ABR) - with "Quicker" Encode for Extras either checked or unchecked. That combination is great for speed (under 3 hrs), but marginal quality on the main movie and noticeably blocky on the smaller files. For the sake of argument, is it possible to select ENCODE_QUALITY=3 Highest (Very Slow) and ONEPASS_ENCODING=1 (1-Pass ABR) and how would AUTO_BIAS=n have an effect on that?

I'm still experimenting and have only tried a few encodes using the "Automatic" setting so far, but just trying to understand how some of the options work in conjunction with each other. I've had excellent results using 2-Pass, High Quality (Default) targeted to full disc BD9 (custom 8210 MB), but reducing the 8-10 hour encoding routine while still maintaining that level of video quality would be nice (if possible).

jdobbs
21st April 2010, 13:28
Any downside to setting bias to 2? Longer encoding time or are there potential image quality trade-offs?

Thanks,

Z The threshold for selecting the next higher setting gets lowered. So on some encodes you will see longer times.

jdobbs
21st April 2010, 13:36
A little confused and just looking for clarification:

AUTO_QUALITY=n n = 0/1 - Default=1?, 0=Off, 1=On (Menu Selectable)
AUTO_BIAS=n n = 0/1/2 - Default= 1, Auto Quality bias, 0=higher speed, 1=normal, 2=higher quality (From the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file)
ENCODE_QUALITY=n n = 0/1/2/3 - Default= 2, 0=Good (Very Fast), 1=Better (Fast), 2=High Quality (Default), 3=Highest (Very Slow) (Menu Selectable)
ONEPASS_ENCODING=n n=0/1 - 0=One Pass (CRF) Encoding, 1=One Pass (ABR) Encoding (Menu Selectable)

Is there a difference between AUTO_BIAS and ENCODE_QUALITY or is AUTO_BIAS an extension of ENCODE_QUALITY when having chosen AUTO_QUALITY=1?

I've noticed on sources in the 25-30GB range (e.g. "The Bad Lieutenant", "Dr. Strangelove") targeted to full disc BD9, that "Automatic" is selecting ENCODE_QUALITY=0 Good (Very Fast) and ONEPASS_ENCODING=1 (1-Pass ABR) - with "Quicker" Encode for Extras either checked or unchecked. That combination is great for speed (under 3 hrs), but marginal quality on the main movie and noticeably blocky on the smaller files. For the sake of argument, is it possible to select ENCODE_QUALITY=3 Highest (Very Slow) and ONEPASS_ENCODING=1 (1-Pass ABR) and how would AUTO_BIAS=n have an effect on that?

I'm still experimenting and have only tried a few encodes using the "Automatic" setting so far, but just trying to understand how some of the options work in conjunction with each other. I've had excellent results using 2-Pass, High Quality (Default) targeted to full disc BD9 (custom 8210 MB), but reducing the 8-10 hour encoding routine while still maintaining that level of video quality would be nice (if possible). Several of the settings you mentioned are not meant to be manually modified and are set by menu selections. Only the items listed in "HIDDENOPTS.TXT" are meant to be directly user modifiable.

AUTO_BIAS isn't an extension of ENCODE_QUALITY. AUTO_BIAS simply sets thresholds for when BD-RB changes settings to higher quality levels (ENCODE_QUALITY) when in "Automatic" mode (AUTO_QUALITY). You will find that there actually is a time when BD-B will select "High Quality" and One-Pass when in "Automatic" mode.

If you like using two-pass -- then use it. You just have to deselect "Automatic"..

hautem
21st April 2010, 14:46
Several of the settings you mentioned are not meant to be manually modified and are set by menu selections. Only the items listed in "HIDDENOPTS.TXT" are meant to be directly user modifiable.

AUTO_BIAS isn't an extension of ENCODE_QUALITY. AUTO_BIAS simply sets thresholds for when BD-RB changes settings to higher quality levels (ENCODE_QUALITY) when in "Automatic" mode (AUTO_QUALITY). You will find that there actually is a time when BD-B will select "High Quality" and One-Pass when in "Automatic" mode.

If you like using two-pass -- then use it. You just have to deselect "Automatic"..

Thanks - understand manually modified vs. menu items - just wanted to make sure I understood what menu items were being translated to what specific line items in the .ini file vs. those that may be added in hiddenopts etc.

I probably have it backwards, but I would have thought that more robust encoding would be indicated in "Automatic" when compressing (if that's the right word) to a smaller space - e. g. 1-Pass ABR seems fine from all accounts going to BD25, but maybe at times not so well going to BD9. Plus, it's bypassing "Better" altogether and down to "Good" in the encoding quality calculation for the two that I mentioned. Maybe I'll give 1-Pass ABR at the "High Quality" setting a try and see how that nets out speed vs. pic quality. Yes, 2-Pass at "High Quality" has been a no-brainer for me full disc to BD9 across the board. Maybe there's no free lunch here.

BTW - for anyone that may be interested in evaluating video quality on a still frame basis (saw this in another post), you can do screen captures in VLC Media Player playing .mt2s files. I leave the output format set to .png (.jpg appears far too compressed) in preferences and use single frame advance to navigate. The time counter doesn't seem to work for .mt2s files, so you'll have to wing it to capture identical frames. I use Irfanview to quickly toggle between captures.

jdobbs
21st April 2010, 17:01
I've updated the first post of this thread with a new version of BD Rebuilder (v0.33.05). The changes for this release are:- Corrected an error in which "?" may appear in the
label name for certain types of non-western characters.
Now if a "?" is found it is replaced by "X".
- Added an new audio option under setup. You can now
select to reencode audio to 192Kbs 2ch AC3 audio
rather than 5.1 AC3 (448Kbs/640Kbs).
- Made a update to the X264 command line to distinguish
between TFF and BFF interlaced sources. In previous
versions it was possible for a BFF source (rare) to
be encoded as TFF and cause "jitter".
- Corrected an error in which some MPEG-2 interlaced
sources might not be tested for pulldown or BFF flags.
- Corrected an error in which 576i sources that use
pulldown might be incorrectly interpreted.
- Changed the default value for DEINTERLACE and added it
to the SETUP dialog. Now that X264 has more inclusive
default (non-patched) support for interlacing, BD-RB
will no longer deinterlace by default. You can change
the desired action by setting the "Use DECOMB on
interlaced sources" selection of the video options in
SETUP.
- Made a change to the AVS files generated by BD-RB so
they don't conflict with the new interleaving added
to X264 r1542.
- Fixed an error in the "Automatic" quality selection
code that could have made it more likely to use 1 pass
encoding on BD-5 encodes than was intended.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1542).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Alarven
21st April 2010, 17:27
A big hello jdobbs really thank you for such hard work that makes such excellent program as it is BD Rebuilder BETA and see if I can help I have a problem with the True HD audio does not get to do a Back Up of 50 to 25 gb because ffdshow will not let me encode the ACDC_NO_BULL bluray if you can tell me how to get the two TRUE HD audio and LPCM thanks.

Alarven
21st April 2010, 17:30
Here you put the problem that gives me see if I can help thank you very much for your understanding. excuse me my English is not very good.

description:

[11:49:53] BD Rebuilder v0.33.05 (beta)
- Source: ACDC_NO_BULL
- BD Input size: 44.77 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:20.856]
- BD Target size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3 = 1 DTS HD = 0 = 1 = 192 Kbs
[11:49:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:49:53] Extracting A / V streams [VID_00016]
- [11:49:54] Reencoding: VID_00016 (1 of 7)
- [11:49:54] Collecting information video
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate / Length: 29.970 fps, 30 frames
- [11:49:54] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:49:56] Video Encode complete
- [11:49:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in Attempt to reencode audio (Aften) [AUD_00016__4352.AVS]
[11:51:35] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

Alarven
21st April 2010, 17:38
1- imagen

http://s2.subirimagenes.com/imagen/previo/thump_439268420100421-12-04-29.png

2- imagen
http://s3.subirimagenes.com:81/imagen/previo/thump_439269220100421-12-05-14.png

Thanks for your help

jdobbs
21st April 2010, 20:00
1- imagen

http://s2.subirimagenes.com/imagen/previo/thump_439268420100421-12-04-29.png

2- imagen
http://s3.subirimagenes.com:81/imagen/previo/thump_439269220100421-12-05-14.png

Thanks for your help It's probably the 96Khz sample rate of the original that is causing the issue. I'll look at it.

tandi
21st April 2010, 21:53
@drmih
hi, yes, i understand
what i mean , if this affect also to my pc ? , cause when i play in my pc
it got same message ' a disc with unsupported format '

hautem
21st April 2010, 23:03
I've updated the first post of this thread with a new version of BD Rebuilder (v0.33.05).

Whatever you did re: "fixing "Automatic" quality selection code that could have made it more likely to use 1 pass encoding on BD-5 encodes than was intended" appears to apply to BD9 as well. Out of the two sources I mentioned earlier, it selected "High Quality" for both and 1-Pass ABR for the 25GB source and 2-Pass for the 30GB source (v0.33.04 was previously selecting "Good" and 1-Pass for both).

Thanks much. I'll keep trying "Automatic" and see what shakes out speed vs. quality on the BD9 front.

Zot
21st April 2010, 23:12
@drmih
hi, yes, i understand
what i mean , if this affect also to my pc ? , cause when i play in my pc
it got same message ' a disc with unsupported format '

What program (and what version) are you using to play the disc?
What was used to burn the disc?
Is the disc an DVD5, DVD9, BDR?
Was it burned as an AVCHD?
Using clipinf.edit (from clownbd site) open the clip file. Does it say it's AVCHD or Blu ray?


Z

SoniG
22nd April 2010, 02:09
Hi jdobbs, thanks for the improvements and fixes you provided on your last update.
When a main movie+PiP is encoded, I noticed the main movie is well encoded with the quality set, but the secondary movie is always encoded in 1pass, ultrafast mode and the x264 Tweaks bypassed. I noticed this with quicker extras unchecked and 2-pass Highest Quality set.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 02:27
Hi jdobbs, thanks for the improvements and fixes you provided on your last update.
When a main movie+PiP is encoded, I noticed the main movie is well encoded with the quality set, but the secondary movie is always encoded in 1pass, ultrafast mode and the x264 Tweaks bypassed. I noticed this with quicker extras unchecked and 2-pass Highest Quality set. The secondaries are always encoded with a fixed CRF that is determined by the output size. That guarantees a specific quality level.

SoniG
22nd April 2010, 03:33
Mmmh, ok for the rc to CRF, but shouldn't the quality preset be a bit better than ultrafast? That gives sometimes ugly result compared to default or slow preset. Fortunately most of the time secondaries are reduced on playback.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 04:54
Mmmh, ok for the rc to CRF, but shouldn't the quality preset be a bit better than ultrafast? That gives sometimes ugly result compared to default or slow preset. Fortunately most of the time secondaries are reduced on playback. No, that shouldn't be the case. It will give you the quality associated with the CRF. You'd just use a little more bitrate than a higher quality setting.

Dark Shikari
22nd April 2010, 04:59
No, that shouldn't be the case. It will give you the quality associated with the CRF. You'd just use a little more bitrate than a higher quality setting.Different presets at the same CRF are not guaranteed to give the same quality. This is particularly true on the following three boundaries:

1. No AQ -> AQ (ultrafast -> superfast)
2. No MBtree -> MBtree (veryfast -> faster)
3. No psy -> psy (faster -> fast)

tandi
22nd April 2010, 05:28
What program (and what version) are you using to play the disc?
What was used to burn the disc?
Is the disc an DVD5, DVD9, BDR?
Was it burned as an AVCHD?
Using clipinf.edit (from clownbd site) open the clip file. Does it say it's AVCHD or Blu ray?


Z

i use powerdvd BD Edition ver 7.3
i use Imgburn and nero as UDF 2.5
the disc : verbatim dvd+DL
ClipINF Header : Blu-ray

Sharc
22nd April 2010, 06:04
Mmmh, ok for the rc to CRF, but shouldn't the quality preset be a bit better than ultrafast? That gives sometimes ugly result compared to default or slow preset. Fortunately most of the time secondaries are reduced on playback.
Wouldn't QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1 in the [Options] of the .ini help in your case?
It would force the CRF encodes to use the same settings as for the main feature.

SoniG
22nd April 2010, 06:09
Different presets at the same CRF are not guaranteed to give the same quality. This is particularly true on the following three boundaries:

1. No AQ -> AQ (ultrafast -> superfast)
2. No MBtree -> MBtree (veryfast -> faster)
3. No psy -> psy (faster -> fast)

That's what I would say. CRF could be variables but with better preset and other x264 setting quality. With the same CRF, the quality is not the same with ultrafast preset and slow preset. The only difference is encoding time. I already take time to make a full backup in the highest quality possible, bonuses included, I have time to give the same for the PiP. The main movie took 14 hours to encode, the secondary : 10 minutes (that is in 480p I know). Why not just let the secondary with the same quality than all the rest with 1pass, crf you want? To not say normally you should only need to touch the crf in 'one pass encoding' and the bitrate in 2 pass for your final BD size calculation. All the other parameters are for quality/encode speed already set to the beginning by the user.

Zot
22nd April 2010, 06:33
i use powerdvd BD Edition ver 7.3
i use Imgburn and nero as UDF 2.5
the disc : verbatim dvd+DL
ClipINF Header : Blu-ray

Hi,

PowerDVD 7 has AVCHD support so that should not be the problem.

I have never used Nero, so I don't know if that will work for you or not, but imgburn has always produced good output for me.

Using clipinf.exe to set header to 100 (AVCHD) and AVCHD patcher will ensure that the index.bdmv are set to AVCHD. This could be the problem - I can't see anything else with your setup that could be the problem.

I have a Verbatim DVD-9 set to AVCHD as above burned with imgburn 2.5.1.0. I just tested with PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra and it recognized it fine. Try opening the .m2ts file with VLC Media player and see if that plays. If so, you know the .m2ts file is good and it's disc structure/layout that's the issue. You can even drag and drop the AVCHD drive right onto VLC and see if it plays.

I"m afraid that's as far as I can help. :-(

Sharc
22nd April 2010, 06:33
Why not just let the secondary with the same quality than all the rest with 1pass, crf and bitrate you want? To not say normally you should only need to touch the bitrate for your final BD size calculation. All the other parameters are for quality/encode speed already set to the beginning by the user.
QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1 in the [Options] of the .ini does exactly what you want (The default is 0, I always set it to 1 for that reason).

SoniG
22nd April 2010, 07:01
QUICK_USE_QUALITY=1 in the [Options] of the .ini does exactly what you want (The default is 0, I always set it to 1 for that reason).
I never used this option because I always encode in 2-pass (abr is used in first pass) and QUICK_EXTRAS=0. So this option should have no effect (that I confirm). And I've just tested it on the highest quality, one pass crf setting, and I have well the slow preset for the main movie and the same preset quality on secondary : ultrafast. So it changes nothing.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 13:42
I never used this option because I always encode in 2-pass (abr is used in first pass) and QUICK_EXTRAS=0. So this option should have no effect (that I confirm). And I've just tested it on the highest quality, one pass crf setting, and I have well the slow preset for the main movie and the same preset quality on secondary : ultrafast. So it changes nothing.

I'll put a hidden option in that will allow secondaries to use the same quality selection as the primary video (but still CRF). But, IMHO changing the encoding parameters for secondaries really isn't that important -- and while I stand corrected by Dark Shikari that all CRF settings aren't equal, I've looked at both outputs and we're debating over something that just isn't that significant. If the output isn't looking good enough for you it's probably more related to my selection of "25" for the CRF value on secondaries (I was mixing this one up with how I do the extras in my previous post). I guess I should rethink that too. I was just trying to breeze through the secondaries quickly so they didn't add an inordinate amount of time to the overall job.

[Edit] I've added two new hidden options to the next release. SECONDARY_USE_QUALITY=1 will use the selected quality level for encoding secondaries and SECONDARY_CRF=n will use a specified CRF value for that encode. I warn, though, that any additional bitrate that is used for secondaries is stolen directly from the primary video...

SoniG
22nd April 2010, 14:51
jdobbs : Yeah I understand you about speed optimization, but when you have a 1080p main movie with about 6-7 1080/480p bonuses, like this BD of Dumbo I am doing (who is laughing?...), the secondary is finally just another 480p one. When my main setting is low preset with --me umh --subme 9 etc... believe me it's not the same as ultrafast preset, --me dia --subme 0 etc... Maybe you should eventually consider this secondary as another bonus footage in the backup process, it would be clearer, with same setting for all. But I suppose you are constrained by some technical limitations and sizeable code work.

Edit : Yeah, to go to your meaning, the secondary is so often reduced to top of the main movie (at about 25%), so in theory the encode quality loss is 4 time less felt than the main movie or any full screen bonus. About crf to 25, it makes a 7500 bitrate for the movie, and 450 for the secondary. A 7000/1000 ratio should maybe be more fair.

drmih
22nd April 2010, 15:44
i use powerdvd BD Edition ver 7.3
i use Imgburn and nero as UDF 2.5
the disc : verbatim dvd+DL
ClipINF Header : Blu-ray

I am guessing that the old version of Powerdvd (it's now on V10) isnt able to handle newer discs. Doesn't it give you some indication apart from 'unsupported' - or is that the message from the LG.

As you are using BD-Rebuilder and have said that you haven't done 'movie-only' copies, then you are doing proper blu ray copies rather than avchd, so I'm note sure the previous advice regarding avchd is valid. On the bright side, I think that the discs that you have done will turn out to be fine when you get the correct equipment / software.

DK
22nd April 2010, 16:22
Tried 33.05's DECOMB option today for the first time as i still have severe issues with one interlaced title which came out stuttering for the last 5 or so bd-rb versions i tried it with and it failed completely:


[15:09:55] BD Rebuilder v0.33.05 (beta)
- Source: BLOOD_AND_FLOWERS
- Input BD size: 19,84 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:12:20.198]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[15:09:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:09:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [15:39:52] Reencoding: VID_00003 (1 of 1)
- [15:39:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 237.968 frames
- [15:39:54] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 28,80 19,40 27,57 26,85 26,46 26,23 [26,12]
- [15:51:46] Encoding using constant rate factor.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.05 (beta)
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, not recommended version
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[15:51:56] - Failed video encode, aborted




"C:\Programme\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "F:\DVD\BLOOD\WORKFILES\VID_00003.AVS" --preset veryfast --b-pyramid strict --weightp 0 --slow-firstpass --qpmin=0 --crf 26.12 --level 4.0 --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 14500 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --tff --threads auto --thread-input --stats "F:\DVD\BLOOD\WORKFILES\VID_00003.AVS.264.stats" --pass 1 --output "F:\DVD\BLOOD\WORKFILES\VID_00003.AVS.264"




[Options]

RESIZE=0
MODE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=4369
ONEPASS_ENCODING=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
STATUS_LOG=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
DEINTERLACE=1
AC3_192=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BD\BLOOD_AND_FLOWERS\
WORKING_PATH=F:\DVD\BLOOD\


btw: i have this avisynth version in use for quite some time with bd-rb and no issues so far

the same bd version and title worked fine in a testrun before WITHOUT decomb

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 16:53
@DK

Since DECOMB is an AVISYNTH function. Please try it with the recommended version of AVISYNTH and report back.

SoniG
22nd April 2010, 16:55
DK : follow jdobbs advice and if the problem remain you should open VID_00003.AVS with a directshow compatible media player to see what you get.

tandi : First when you insert the disc to your pc, you should see if you can access the BD files, bdmv, certificate, m2ts files etc.. After, I'd really recommended you to install and use Arcsoft Total Media Platinum 3. It take on isos and bdmv folders (it is the only one to support this), I have also Powerdvd and Windvd and by my own experience it is just the best one. Best BD compatibility, best reliability, best non-crap protections.

DK
22nd April 2010, 16:57
OK, installed 257 now and rerun the test

will report back

+++

pls dont worry about my chosen output size:
of course i do not expect any decent quality at all with fastest setting and 4gb size.
the only purpose was to be able to burn it to a DVD-RW media for testing purposes on the bd player as i have tried this title with different bd versions and settings over the time (all of which were not successful and resulted in a stuttering playback) so i was not willing to output to the usual 9gb for this test

btw: i did NOT maintain HD audio. at least i have picked AC3 encoding in the setup for movie only

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 16:58
DK : Yeah but as avisynth is used for decomb process, who knows? You should stay with recommended versions, especially for a specific avisynth version and his plugin code compatibilty. Now I don't know if to shrink a BD from 20 to 4GB in maintaining HD audio is the best thing to do. And first you should launch VID_00003.AVS with a directshow compatible media player to see what you get.

tandi : First when you insert the disc to your pc, you should see if you can access the BD files, bdmv, certificate, m2ts files etc.. After, I'd really recommended you to install and use Arcsoft Total Media Platinum 3. It take on isos and bdmv folders (it is the only one to support this), I have also Powerdvd and Windvd and by my own experience it is just the best one. Best BD compatibility, best reliability, best non-crap protections. I do movie-only encodes to BD-5 all the time. They look great.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 17:00
OK, installed 257 now and rerun the test

will report backJust a note... in all previous versions BD-RB was using DECOMB by default, so it isn't really anything new.

I just tested the DECOMB selection on an interlaced 29.97 source and didn't have any issues.

Let me know if you continue to have problems, though.

If it works with 2.57 -- you may want to try reinstalling 2.58 and see if it fails again. It could have just been something that got corrupted in AVISYNTH too.

DK
22nd April 2010, 17:40
I know you said in the change log, that decomb was not new but because of the field order change i had hopes that maybe this time it would make a change to this "problem movie" of mine

Last night i ran the title with standard settings and NO decomb and because the result was not ok I thought to give the decomb option another try.

What yould be the correct setting (inside the config) btw to maintain interlacing?
Something like: keep_interlacing=1 and deinterlace=0 ?

One more thing concerning the field order in question:
I am NOT able to load my original m2ts into DGAVCIndex - it fails preview but i can check the converted m2ts.
Is there another way to determine which field order may be in the original m2ts?

+++++

The encoding process started this time after installing 257.
Will let you know what comes out of this test and will also try 258 afterwards as well again.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 18:14
I know you said in the change log, that decomb was not new but because of the field order change i had hopes that maybe this time it would make a change to this "problem movie" of mine

Last night i ran the title with standard settings and NO decomb and because the result was not ok I thought to give the decomb option another try.

What yould be the correct setting (inside the config) btw to maintain interlacing?
Something like: keep_interlacing=1 and deinterlace=0 ?

One more thing concerning the field order in question:
I am NOT able to load my original m2ts into DGAVCIndex - it fails preview but i can check the converted m2ts.
Is there another way to determine which field order may be in the original m2ts?

+++++

The encoding process started this time after installing 257.
Will let you know what comes out of this test and will also try 258 afterwards as well again. When you open BD-RB, is there a "**" or a "*" next to the frame rate in the streams list? "**" means it is a field-based source. "*" means it is using pulldown.

BD Rebuilder does a sample scan of the M2TS and looks at the TFF/RFF flags. I've tested it on a lot of sources and I'm confident it is right.

SoniG
22nd April 2010, 18:32
I do movie-only encodes to BD-5 all the time. They look great.
Sorry, I didn't noticed it was a movie-only mode.

To encode in interlace mode you have to use : DEINTERLACE=0, it should be ok in this mode.

About image stuttering jdobbs, I saw the logs, I think I know where it come from and I already gave you my point of view about this.

DK
22nd April 2010, 19:28
When you open BD-RB, is there a "**" or a "*" next to the frame rate in the streams list? "**" means it is a field-based source. "*" means it is using pulldown.

BD Rebuilder does a sample scan of the M2TS and looks at the TFF/RFF flags. I've tested it on a lot of sources and I'm confident it is right.

It says this:

VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps**

WiseWeasel
22nd April 2010, 19:40
Hi. I've been using BD Rebuilder with great success for several months, but recently hit a snag with v3304 and now v3305. BD Rebuilder has apparently stopped working since build v3304; when it gets to and AVC-encoded titles, it just fails to encode the video and stops. I've been able to reproduce this behavior on all the movies I've tried, including with the same BluRay rips that previously worked with v3208. Here's the end of the log from trying to process Law Abiding Citizen:
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 27,180 frames
- [15:28:32] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:56:52] Video Encode complete
- [15:56:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:56:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:57:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [16:09:54] Reencoding: VID_00001 (14 of 14)
- [16:09:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 169,896 frames
- Bitrate: 16,231 Kbs
- [16:09:54] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[16:11:19] - Failed video encode, aborted
I tried ripping discs several different times, and was careful to clean the discs of any smudges before ripping, with the same results. I tried using BD Rebuilder in Full Backup and Movie Only modes. I even tried installing the latest releases of ffdshow and Haali Media Splitter, and even the 64-bit beta of Haali, all to no avail. I tried all the different ffdshow decoder options for the AVC/h.264 codec, including libavcodec and ffmpeg-mt. I'm running Windows Vista 64bit SP2 on an AMD Athlon64 X2 machine I built. This may be the same issue as Nerz was having here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1387272&highlight=abiding#post1387272), along with some other problems people were having, though I wasn't able to find a working solution in this thread.

While I've been waiting for the 5-day forum account activation to take effect and allow me to post this, I've tried installing every version of all the different apps, and even grabbing a copy of the x264.exe codec from BD Rebuilder v3208, which had been working previously, all to no avail. I don't seem to be able to run version 3208 anymore to test side by side, as it reports it has expired. I'd be happy to test anything out for you to help get this resolved. Thanks for your time, and for this great software!

sa2k9
22nd April 2010, 20:08
JDobbs,

Is there any way I can use 3 dedicated drives for

1.Source folder
2.Working folder
3.Destination folder ??


TIA.

Ch3vr0n
22nd April 2010, 20:21
The Working folder is currently the destination folder, all finished recodes end up there. However i wouldnt mind a feature like that, could be handy yes. Although lately i'm having BDRB remove the workfiles & output folder after a successful burn. Easy way to free up the space again.

SoniG
22nd April 2010, 20:24
WiseWeasel : First you should set back ffdshow h.264 decoding to libavcodec. Last version 0.33.05 works properly with any source format. You are in 64bit but you don't have to bother about any 64bit codecs. All codecs used by BDRebuilder will be 32bit ones. If the log say ok, your 32bit codecs installation should be ok. Install 32bit version of Media Player Classic HC (http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/download-media-player-classic-hc.html). From your source BD, open the file BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts with mpc-hc. Does it play well? If it doesn't, you should uninstall/reinstall Haali and ffdshow codecs to reset their priority use. If it's ok, double click ffdshow icon on the taskbar while playing, verify the version is well 3326...x86 in about section. Verify all ffdshow effects are unchecked. If it's ok, you should go to the WORKFILES folder where you outputted your BDR and open the VID_00001.AVS file generated by BDRebuilder with mpc-hc and see what you get. You should see the movie or an error message. If it's an error, you should uninstall/reinstall avisynth 2.5.7. If you see the movie, try to reencode the BD again. Let us informed.

sa2k9
22nd April 2010, 20:52
The Working folder is currently the destination folder, all finished recodes end up there. However i wouldnt mind a feature like that, could be handy yes. Although lately i'm having BDRB remove the workfiles & output folder after a successful burn. Easy way to free up the space again.

This way, for a BD25, the multiplexing is taking about 20 to 25 minutes on a 7200RPM SATAii drive. If the destination folder is on a different drive, it'd be much less.

Jdobbs, is there any way we can add a line to config file to accomplish this? or could you please add this feature in the next build. TIA

WiseWeasel
22nd April 2010, 21:17
1) ffdshow set to libavcodec.
2) Media Player Classic HC plays all the m2ts files I've tried just fine.
3) There does not seem to be a ffdshow icon appearing in my taskbar while either MPC-HC or BD RB is running. The only one I see while BD RB is running is Haali before it errors out.
4) No ffdshow effects appear to be enabled in the ffdshow video decoder configuration. I'm not sure if I'm looking in the right place, however.
5) The only VID_xxx.AVS file I see is VID_00423.AVS, and opening it in MPC-HC, it simply says "Cannot render the file". Note that manually telling MPC-HC to open and play the 00423.m2ts file does play it normally (it's a copyright notice).
6) Uninstalling and re-installing AVISynth did nothing.

Additional note: While troubleshooting, I ran into advice from jdobbs to check the registry for certain entries that should reference ffdshow's ID. I checked, and my registry seemed to be missing the directory with those keys entirely. I can't find the post now, but it may indicate that ffdshow is somehow not completely installed correctly or something. I've tried reinstalling everything multiple times though. It really seemed like version 0.33.04 broke something that was working before on this setup, and I was suspecting the new version of x264 not liking my 64-bit AMD CPU for some reason.

Oh, I will also note that mpeg2-encoded titles seem to still encode just fine in the latest builds of BD RB; it's just the AVC titles that fail.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 21:59
Sorry, I didn't noticed it was a movie-only mode.

To encode in interlace mode you have to use : DEINTERLACE=0, it should be ok in this mode.

About image stuttering jdobbs, I saw the logs, I think I know where it come from and I already gave you my point of view about this. You can use DEINTERLACE=0 or you can just delete it. If it isn't there it defaults to "0" now.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 22:00
Sorry, I didn't noticed it was a movie-only mode.

To encode in interlace mode you have to use : DEINTERLACE=0, it should be ok in this mode.

About image stuttering jdobbs, I saw the logs, I think I know where it come from and I already gave you my point of view about this. You can use DEINTERLACE=0 or you can just delete it. If it isn't there it defaults to "0" now. If you set DEINTERLACE=1, the output will still be interlaced -- but the difference between the two fields will be smoothed. This is especially useful when your player is attempting to play it as frames (like on a PC).

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 22:03
JDobbs,

Is there any way I can use 3 dedicated drives for

1.Source folder
2.Working folder
3.Destination folder ??


TIA. Not right now.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 22:06
Hi. I've been using BD Rebuilder with great success for several months, but recently hit a snag with v3304 and now v3305. BD Rebuilder has apparently stopped working since build v3304; when it gets to and AVC-encoded titles, it just fails to encode the video and stops. I've been able to reproduce this behavior on all the movies I've tried, including with the same BluRay rips that previously worked with v3208. Here's the end of the log from trying to process Law Abiding Citizen:
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 27,180 frames
- [15:28:32] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:56:52] Video Encode complete
- [15:56:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:56:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:57:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [16:09:54] Reencoding: VID_00001 (14 of 14)
- [16:09:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 169,896 frames
- Bitrate: 16,231 Kbs
- [16:09:54] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[16:11:19] - Failed video encode, aborted
I tried ripping discs several different times, and was careful to clean the discs of any smudges before ripping, with the same results. I tried using BD Rebuilder in Full Backup and Movie Only modes. I even tried installing the latest releases of ffdshow and Haali Media Splitter, and even the 64-bit beta of Haali, all to no avail. I tried all the different ffdshow decoder options for the AVC/h.264 codec, including libavcodec and ffmpeg-mt. I'm running Windows Vista 64bit SP2 on an AMD Athlon64 X2 machine I built. This may be the same issue as Nerz was having here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1387272&highlight=abiding#post1387272), along with some other problems people were having, though I wasn't able to find a working solution in this thread.

While I've been waiting for the 5-day forum account activation to take effect and allow me to post this, I've tried installing every version of all the different apps, and even grabbing a copy of the x264.exe codec from BD Rebuilder v3208, which had been working previously, all to no avail. I don't seem to be able to run version 3208 anymore to test side by side, as it reports it has expired. I'd be happy to test anything out for you to help get this resolved. Thanks for your time, and for this great software! Make sure you haven't installed 64 bit versions of any of the packages. They just don't work correctly.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 22:09
1) ffdshow set to libavcodec.
2) Media Player Classic HC plays all the m2ts files I've tried just fine.
3) There does not seem to be a ffdshow icon appearing in my taskbar while either MPC-HC or BD RB is running. The only one I see while BD RB is running is Haali before it errors out.
4) No ffdshow effects appear to be enabled in the ffdshow video decoder configuration. I'm not sure if I'm looking in the right place, however.
5) The only VID_xxx.AVS file I see is VID_00423.AVS, and opening it in MPC-HC, it simply says "Cannot render the file". Note that manually telling MPC-HC to open and play the 00423.m2ts file does play it normally (it's a copyright notice).
6) Uninstalling and re-installing AVISynth did nothing.

Additional note: While troubleshooting, I ran into advice from jdobbs to check the registry for certain entries that should reference ffdshow's ID. I checked, and my registry seemed to be missing the directory with those keys entirely. I can't find the post now, but it may indicate that ffdshow is somehow not completely installed correctly or something. I've tried reinstalling everything multiple times though. It really seemed like version 0.33.04 broke something that was working before on this setup, and I was suspecting the new version of x264 not liking my 64-bit AMD CPU for some reason.

Oh, I will also note that mpeg2-encoded titles seem to still encode just fine in the latest builds of BD RB; it's just the AVC titles that fail. Have you installed any "Codec Packs" or other AVC decoders? That would cause exactly the problem you're describing. If so, remove all codec packs. FFDSHOW has everything you need, and these packs are notorious for screwing up the process.

SoniG
22nd April 2010, 23:21
You can use DEINTERLACE=0 or you can just delete it. If it isn't there it defaults to "0" now. If you set DEINTERLACE=1, the output will still be interlaced -- but the difference between the two fields will be smoothed. This is especially useful when your player is attempting to play it as frames (like on a PC).

Problem jdobbs is that decomb without the dthreshold to 0 will forget some fields line that should be deinterlaced, and so I'm agree, a part will be smoothed, I would much say 'field blended', but another part will be artefacts irrelevant to any logical, and reinterlacing after is even worse and not done for that. You decomb, it's progressive. You interlace progressive, you take more artefacts because there is no fields anymore. And a deinterlacer is made to transform your footage to progressive and be played by your pc as frames as you say, you don't need to interlace anything after. Or we keep fields interlaced and we let the player play with the fields. Fields will be deinterlaced by the player by frame blend (as decomb do), or Bob (double framerate that also exist as a avisynth plugin). But trust me there is nothing else valuable. Any other processes are artefacts, or jerky results in motion as somes will complain because x264 with --tff... will recreate irrelevant fields from deinterlaced, smoothed or whatever frames.
As the full example I sent you. Really look at motions on any bonuses, you will see strange lines that comes from nowhere. It's not fields, it's not frames, it's artefacts, generated by decomb and x264. Now I let you think about it and will not talk about this anymore. If you want to discuss more about it, we could maybe chat or you can PM me.

WiseWeasel : I think your ffdshow install/priority set is the issue. Don't think installing BDRebuilder messed something. First there is no installer and the only mess that could occured would be from ffdshow/Haali/Avisynth or other codec packs installations. BDRebuilder do nothing apart from using these elements. So you say you can play m2ts files but you don't see any ffdshow icon on the taskbar. That's not a good thing, and maybe you play the file with another codec than ffdshow, and this would be the problem. You should try to analyse which codec is actually playing your AVC/H.264 files. Open one of them with mpc-hc, right click on the movie and see what you have on the 'Filters' section. Find the codec which is playing the video and you will have to find the way to lower his priority or disable it from your system (MMCompView), until ffdshow take the control of your AVC videos. Be sure before to well set on the ffdshow video decoder config, AVC to libavc and VC1 to wm9. You can set the merit/priority there too. Good luck, I think you have definitely a codec conflict and you will have to get rid of it. Try to find tools : Codec Tweak Tool, GraphStudio, and MMCompView to enable/disable any codecs to test your installation. As jdobbs asked you, remove any other codecs and codecs pack, even 3rd parts from Adobe Premiere/After Effects installs, Mainconcept or whatever.

jdobbs
22nd April 2010, 23:33
@SoniG

The reason it has to stay flagged as interlaced even when deinterlacing (at least on 720x480 sources) is because the blu-ray standard doesn't support progressive streams at 29.97fps on primary video.

I think in most circumstances now that X264 inherently supports, it is better just to leave it as-is and not deinterlace. That's why I changed the default. But some folks like the look better with the source is deinterlaced -- so the option remains.

SoniG
23rd April 2010, 00:01
Damn are you sure? Because that's what I did with Batman 1989 bonuses. I reencoded as 29.97 480p and of course on TMT3 it worked well. Finally I'm surprised, and I'm not. I would say to you the only solution would be to let these footages as interlaced, or is there a way to pulldown them (I sux on pulldowns), or transform them as 720p or something compatible? But I think if nothing is compatible, the best way is to keep those footages as is. And believe me deinterlace+interlace, it doesn't exist. But if it would only doesn't exist I would even don't bother you with that, but the problem is it doesn't exist, and in encoding deinterlaced footages as interlaced, it creates artefacts, and it's not logical. And for what can be deinterlaced, to say, no many things anymore, decomb gives artefacts too. You just had to remove his 'motion detection' or 'luma detection' something or whatever, in using what I told you. Do the test with any high motion footages, play them as progressive on your PC and you will notice the same thing than me, there is no reason. I really tell you that to guarantee you free artifacts footages. If you stay with these settings, you can send me any processed footages, I will show you where it's wrong.

WiseWeasel
23rd April 2010, 00:22
OK, great news guys! Thanks for all your help, SoniG and jdobbs! So, after not being able to figure out what codec was actually being used in MPC-HC, I decided to simply go use the 'Uninstall Programs' function in the control panel to remove all the tools one more time (I had previously used the individual uninstallers), in addition to some Cannon camera software I think one of my roommates installed which happened to be running an h.264 decoder according to Installed Codecs and DSFMgr, and Real Software, which I had installed at some point. After uninstalling everything, I installed the correct versions of ffdshow, haali and AVISynth once more, and now BD RB works perfectly again. Unfortunately, since I uninstalled everything all at once, I didn't really get to see what exactly was causing the problem, but it's working now, so I'll go sacrifice a chicken to the version dependency gods and pray that BD RB and RipBot can play nicely together. Now that I think about it, I was messing around with RipBot around the time v3304 came out, so maybe that's when I managed to screw something up in one of the libs.

SoniG
23rd April 2010, 01:04
WiseWeasel : Yeah don't bother what caused the issue, it was an obscure and scary one. Happy you got rid of it. If you use Ripbot, I advise you to always keep ffdshow/haali/Avisynth versions recommended by jdobbs. Don't touch anything and you will be able to encode with BDRB, Ripbot, play movies and whatever. You can even create 'auto presets' on ffdshow following your needs. Ripbot will always work with BDRB recommendations, and soon, you will even not need Ripbot anymore, and you will be able to thank jdobbs for that too ! :) Good encodes!

jdobbs
23rd April 2010, 02:31
Damn are you sure? Because that's what I did with Batman 1989 bonuses. I reencoded as 29.97 480p and of course on TMT3 it worked well. Positive. Some players will play 480p@29.97... but it is very definitely not compliant. The only place where 480p@29.97 is accepted is for secondary video that is being played with a 720p source @ 59.94fps.

No progressive stream at all is allowed for 720x480 or 720x576 when it is primary video -- not even 23.976 or 24fps. If you do have a 23.976 stream @720x480, it has to include pulldown flags making it 29.97i.

SoniG
23rd April 2010, 03:27
Ok, you make me things clearer now, all these footages tagged 480i here and 480p pulldown there. I hope more and more new productions will be provided all in hd progressive, and at worst, just interlaced. I will take a look at all these BD compliancy rules.

8ternity
23rd April 2010, 04:36
Hi jdobbs;

I've god an issue about version 33.05;

1rst: 1920x1080 m2ts : video mouvements is saccaged; jerky movements,.. i dont know if i explain you correctly, but when the peoples moves, camera moves, mouvements are not fluid.

2nd: Compression ratio is too high, poor quality for any videos likes bonus features, previews, etc. Main movie is look to be okay. Poor quality for 720x480 29.97 FPS

Here two samples about the issue point #1 and #2.

#1 sample:
http://rapidshare.com/files/379045164/sample.split.89.m2ts.html

#2 sample:
http://rapidshare.com/files/379049887/00013.m2ts.html

Thank You.

EDIT:

Settings ini:

[Options]
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23200
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BDR\BAD_LIEUTENANT\FULLDISC\
WORKING_PATH=E:\BDR\BAD_LIEUTENANT_REBUILDED_3305\


Log:

-----------------------
[08:21:36] BD Rebuilder v0.33.05 (beta)
- Source: FULLDISC
- Input BD size: 23,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:12:07.048]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[08:21:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:21:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [08:21:37] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 7)
- [08:21:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 214 frames
- Bitrate: 14*585 Kbs
- [08:21:37] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:21:47] Video Encode complete
- [08:21:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:21:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:21:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [08:21:52] Reencoding: VID_00013 (2 of 7)
- [08:21:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 3*837 frames
- [08:21:52] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:22:11] Video Encode complete
- [08:22:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:22:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:22:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [08:22:22] Reencoding: VID_00011 (3 of 7)
- [08:22:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3*649 frames
- [08:22:22] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:23:40] Video Encode complete
- [08:23:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:23:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:23:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [08:24:24] Reencoding: VID_00008 (4 of 7)
- [08:24:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 24*727 frames
- [08:24:24] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:26:50] Video Encode complete
- [08:26:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:26:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:26:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [08:27:40] Reencoding: VID_00012 (5 of 7)
- [08:27:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 37*048 frames
- [08:27:40] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:30:23] Video Encode complete
- [08:30:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:30:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:30:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [08:31:54] Reencoding: VID_00009 (6 of 7)
- [08:31:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 56*084 frames
- [08:31:54] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:36:42] Video Encode complete
- [08:36:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:36:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:37:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [08:45:24] Reencoding: VID_00000 (7 of 7)
- [08:45:24] Collecting video information
- [08:45:24] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [08:45:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:45:24] Multiplexing M2TS
[08:55:02]PHASE ONE complete
[08:55:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:55:02] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[08:55:06] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[08:55:08]JOB: FULLDISC finished.


Fulldisc:

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VERSION=v0.33.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24999965565
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24807383040
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.972870884288164
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=7
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00006]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=19761016
RATE=14585
NSIZE=19814400
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
USE_ORIGINAL=1
[00013]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=138392860
NSIZE=45287424
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=352841124
NSIZE=141459456
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00008]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1453283431
NSIZE=333066240
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00012]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1613045205
NSIZE=318019584
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00009]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=3028043910
NSIZE=1013925888
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=22262807683
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSIZE=18000046080
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

DK
23rd April 2010, 09:33
It took me quite a while to get back to you and I had a lot of re-tries/re-installations since then:

When I said the conversion started I was right only for a couple of minutes because then again it failed and after some retries BD RB said: I cant - Failure.
Since I had installed Avisynth 257 by then and all else was OK according to Inspect I had no clue what was going on and tried again and again... to no avail.

I went back to the setting WITHOUT decomb - same problem!
Uninstalled FFDSHOW and reinstalled it - same problem!
Used 3304 instead of 3305 with and without decomb - same problem!

I could not believe that the title did not work or go beyond the stage of the CRF prediction because hours before it completed fine in a 2 pass mode!

So after hours of trying I decided to NOT use 1 pass CRF for this quick test but set 2 pass and guess what: the conversion works fine again.

I have absolutely no idea what is going on here but I can NOT use CRF mode with this title.
Any infos I can provide?

kanerulz69
23rd April 2010, 10:06
is there a difference in speed between idle priority and normal priority? cause when i use bd rebuilder, i dont run anything else, and exit out of anything im not using in the system tray?

SoniG
23rd April 2010, 13:19
8ternity : You should tell which settings you used. Sample 2 seems to be an original.

DK : Your issue is strange, it seems to be a crf issue, as normally in 2pass mode, abr is used. So if you want to encode this in 1 pass, try one pass ABR encoding.

kanerulz69 : idle priority will just lower the process priority of x264. It just useful if you want to encode in keeping using your computer. Your other tasks will have priority. Of course more you use your computer, longer the encode will be. If you do nothing and don't have greedy tasks, it would have no effect and you can even set it to normal. Number of threads is also an important value. By default, threads is set to auto, it will create 1,5 x you number of cores. For a 4 cores machine it will encode with 6 threads. So it will maximise your encode speed. If your machine respond too bad, you can lower this number in the BDRebuilder config file.

jdobbs
23rd April 2010, 15:05
@8ternity

Something is fishy in your post. I look at it and it is telling me that you completed that entire disc (23.8GB) in about 34 minutes. That's just not feasible.... it's also saying the biggest thing on the disc is only 57,084 frames (about 31 minutes).

I have to believe you're preprocessing the disc in some way -- either that or you're editing what is being posted. I don't accept bug reports on preprocessed sources. My experience is that 99% of the time the problem is caused in the preprocessing.

I also noticed that the bitrate is being shown on one of the encodes, but not on the others. Are you editing the log before you're posting it? How does the verbose reporting change midstream?

What gives?

Manuel Marques
23rd April 2010, 16:17
First of all, thank you very much for your EXCELENT program!
I use a VAIO AW11Z PC with VISTA Home, WMediaPlayer11, and BD-RB v0.33.05(beta) with Haali Media Spliter 1.10.120.15 and Avysinth 2.6.0.1. latest versions (instead of Haali MS 1.9.42.1 and Avysinth 257).
With H.264 video streams BD-RB functions PERFECTLY!
But it doesn't encode VC-1 video streams (I've selected the "wmv9" codec).
There's anything I can do?
Thanks again.

Manuel Marques
23rd April 2010, 16:26
When I said H.264 video files I mean MPEG-4 (AVC) video files. The problem is ONLY with the VC-1 video files.

jdobbs
23rd April 2010, 16:47
First of all, thank you very much for your EXCELENT program!
I use a VAIO AW11Z PC with VISTA Home, WMediaPlayer11, and BD-RB v0.33.05(beta) with Haali Media Spliter 1.10.120.15 and Avysinth 2.6.0.1. latest versions (instead of Haali MS 1.9.42.1 and Avysinth 257).
With H.264 video streams BD-RB functions PERFECTLY!
But it doesn't encode VC-1 video streams (I've selected the "wmv9" codec).
There's anything I can do?
Thanks again. Check and make sure you don't have any "Codec Packs" or programs that may have another VC-1 codec installed. These can override FFDSHOW. While FFDSHOW's "wmv9" will decode all types of VC-1 while others have issues.

If you've installed a codec pack -- uninstall it. FFDSHOW has all the CODECs anyone ever needs.

Also, while I'm sure you know what you're doing -- you have to use the software listed in the first post of this thread. The odds are good that the version of HAALI you have installed isn't splitting VC-1 correctly. I've seen it before. Additionally you are using a version of AVISYNTH that is obviously not what is supported and isn't even considered stable yet. I don't mean to be rude, but it's just not appropriate to post a bug report here when you are already aware that you aren't using the right software and haven't even tried to correct it.

Last but not least... if you did a search of the postings in this thread you'll see that this subject has been discussed about a gazzillion times already. Again, I don't like being difficult, but people seem to think that their time (doing a search) is much more valuable than mine (answering the same question over-and-over) -- and I think that's inconsiderate.

No hard feelings... but every now and then I have to reemphasize the rules (look up DOOM9 forum rule 1a).

Manuel Marques
23rd April 2010, 18:49
You are absolutely right, I'm very sorry but I've read the guide by milOtis (pag.4) where he says:"The versions below are considered the minimum versions, while any builds that came after the ones listed are also compatible."
My behaviour doesn't mean any inconsideration for you. I have THE MAXIMUM consideration for you because I think that your program is a PUBLIC SERVICE.

The VC1 video files are noe beeing PERFECTLY encoded.

Thank you very much again for your pacience for newbies like me.

setarip_old
23rd April 2010, 19:00
@ManuelMarques

Hi!I'm very sorry but I've read the guide by milOtisThat's outdated...

drmih
23rd April 2010, 19:37
I have come across a similar bug to one I mentioned earlier. 'The Last Emperor', when encoded to bd-9 lost the audio. Although the original, and HDD rip played fine, the encoded one with Dolby Digital 64kbs wouldn't play and tsmuxer reported it as an unsupported file type. I got around it by encoding to bd-25 and keeping the audio. However, I have just had exactly the same with Clash of the Titans (the original one). That had an audio track of DTS-HD which became DD64kbps. Once again it won't play and tsmuxer says it's not supported.

Shuttle99
23rd April 2010, 21:44
jdobbs, I have backed up a couple movies only with 1pass 33.04 and it would take about 2 hours and now 33.05 1pass takes about 4.5 hours so I redid it with 33.04 and it took 2 hours and 20 min. Not sure what changed between versions but it was not good time wise.

jdobbs
23rd April 2010, 21:57
You are absolutely right, I'm very sorry but I've read the guide by milOtis (pag.4) where he says:"The versions below are considered the minimum versions, while any builds that came after the ones listed are also compatible."
My behaviour doesn't mean any inconsideration for you. I have THE MAXIMUM consideration for you because I think that your program is a PUBLIC SERVICE.

The VC1 video files are noe beeing PERFECTLY encoded.

Thank you very much again for your pacience for newbies like me. Thank you for your understanding. You are a gentleman and a scholar. Hope you enjoy the program.

jdobbs
23rd April 2010, 22:00
I have come across a similar bug to one I mentioned earlier. 'The Last Emperor', when encoded to bd-9 lost the audio. Although the original, and HDD rip played fine, the encoded one with Dolby Digital 64kbs wouldn't play and tsmuxer reported it as an unsupported file type. I got around it by encoding to bd-25 and keeping the audio. However, I have just had exactly the same with Clash of the Titans (the original one). That had an audio track of DTS-HD which became DD64kbps. Once again it won't play and tsmuxer says it's not supported. It was probably originally encode at a 96Khz sample rate -- I've put a fix in for the next release that will downsample those to 48Khz.

jdobbs
23rd April 2010, 22:01
jdobbs, I have backed up a couple movies only with 1pass 33.04 and it would take about 2 hours and now 33.05 1pass takes about 4.5 hours so I redid it with 33.04 and it took 2 hours and 20 min. Not sure what changed between versions but it was not good time wise. There was a bug in 33.04 that caused BD-RB to sometimes select the wrong quality level when using "Automatic". The 4.5 hours is right. You can always manually select a faster (lower quality) level if you think it is good enough. But most of the posts I've seen seem to indicate that the Q needed a boost.

Shuttle99
23rd April 2010, 22:15
Ok though I realy could not tell a differance from the 2 hour from the 4.5 hour on a 50 inch panasonic plasma. But I do want the best with wasting time so 4.5 is ok then.

tandi
23rd April 2010, 23:25
hi
@Zot
i've tried clipinf.exe to set header to 100 (AVCHD) and AVCHD patcher, still got same problem

@drmih
yeah, i'm doing in full backup

@jdobbs
yeah i can see BD files, bdmv, certificate, m2ts files etc
and have tried Arcsoft Total Media Platinum 3 and yes, it can play it

so seem like it's problem with powerdvd and my standalone bluray player not support java menus
like to ask, for your next ver , if it can help solved this java menus problem ?

jdobbs
23rd April 2010, 23:31
hi
@Zot
i've tried clipinf.exe to set header to 100 (AVCHD) and AVCHD patcher, still got same problem

@drmih
yeah, i'm doing in full backup

@jdobbs
yeah i can see BD files, bdmv, certificate, m2ts files etc
and have tried Arcsoft Total Media Platinum 3 and yes, it can play it

so seem like it's problem with powerdvd and my standalone bluray player not support java menus
like to ask, for your next ver , if it can help solved this java menus problem ? There's nothing I can do. The problem is in the player, not BD Rebuilder. The only option for you would be to either replace the player (Sony BDP-S360 is a good choice) or do movie-only backups for discs that use java.

tandi
23rd April 2010, 23:59
ok, thanks for all your helps guys
and jdobbs, very appreciate for your hard works

8ternity
24th April 2010, 01:54
@8ternity

Something is fishy in your post. I look at it and it is telling me that you completed that entire disc (23.8GB) in about 34 minutes. That's just not feasible.... it's also saying the biggest thing on the disc is only 57,084 frames (about 31 minutes).

I have to believe you're preprocessing the disc in some way -- either that or you're editing what is being posted. I don't accept bug reports on preprocessed sources. My experience is that 99% of the time the problem is caused in the preprocessing.

I also noticed that the bitrate is being shown on one of the encodes, but not on the others. Are you editing the log before you're posting it? How does the verbose reporting change midstream?

What gives?

The Original Movie is about (25*000*189*952 octets) i just convert it because it was a little too big for burning in the BD-R 25GB.

I dont really understand what you exlain me about the preprocessing, i am french, i have translate it and can't really catch what you exlpain to me about this. I will try to give you maximum of informations for this issue.

I have Decrypt with AnyDVD HD, oem license, copy *.* except the ANY! crypted files folder; into an Folder on my hard drive. I've modify the settings in BD REbuilder to keep all languages of audio and subtitles, also all bluray audio original....

I have open BD REbuilder, select the Movie Folder; create a empty one and start the project.

The log is integral, i give you all the log file. The only two things i've done:

- i have split the m2ts file movie (the one has been converted) to give you an sample. I have only take out languages to have the smalless file possible.

- i have select in settings to delete temporary converted files.

Thats the only one thing i've done.

About the 34 minutes, of conversion time, probably about the size "25GB to 23.xxx GB". But i have seen that quality conversion for bonus, fbi warnings, federales warnings are verry low quality that previous version of BD Rebuilder.

Let me know if you what than i test again with recommanded settings.

About the sample i give you, did what i make has helping you?

Question: What is the preprocessing? You mean about BD Rebuilder prepares and demux all files etc??

Thank for your help and your time according to me.

8ternity

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 02:36
You need to start over -- because the disc you are attempting to convert doesn't appear to be complete. I can also see that at the very least you are changing settings while the encode is going on (otherwise the bitrate would show for all streams as they are processing, not just the first. BD-RB doesn't change it's reporting halfway through the encode.

I will also say that with compression no larger than you are using, the output will be identical to the original. If you are getting distortion it would have to be in the CODEC that is presenting the video to X264 -- and if that's the case I would guess that you are not using FFDSHOW.

Looking at the input size, I also have to ask, why are you even reencoding? It looks like it will fit without it.

8ternity
24th April 2010, 03:43
Regarding reeconding, you're right, it's fit on a BD-R 25GB.

About ffdshow, between every conversion, i need to uninstall and re-install version of ffdshow 3326 has recommand by you for the conversion. I always use FFDSHOW because i also convert with Ripbot264 some mkv movies and from my digital camera HD720P to fit on a BD5.

So i would say that i don't know why BD Rebuilder cant convert a movie without uninstall/reinstall ffdshow. I know it's ffdshow issue because i can't play m2ts files and ffdshow are not showen video and audio icons in the windows tray. it. I has using Rev. 3362 before reading your first post and it wont make me that issue.

Question: Can i install newer version of FFDSHOW with BD Rebuilder? or i need to keep 3326rev for support?

Thanks!! :)

Sharc
24th April 2010, 07:50
Question: Can i install newer version of FFDSHOW with BD Rebuilder? or i need to keep 3326rev for support?

From the first post in this thread:

... In order to make this beta version work, you have to first install some other packages. I recommend you use the versions linked below, as sometimes new version changes can cause unexpected issues. Here's what you need to do: ....

You are free to do what you want with your PC, but it has been said a trillion times by jdobbs in this thread that people should not complain if they run into issues when using other versions.

glood1
24th April 2010, 08:38
hi

i don' t understand difference beteween crf and abr option if my choice encoding option is very slow and my target is bd 25

by defaut is ?

if abr and crf not enable (it s possible) what it s occurs

what is the better option with my context
i want best quality picture

sorry for my english

thanks you

samtroy
24th April 2010, 10:44
Hi all, I have the following quality question:

I ususally do BD-25 one-pass CRF movie-only encodings. And since I'm too paranoid ;) to use the 'High-Speed BD-25 option', I normally use the 'Better (Fast)' quality option. But a movie still takes up to 7 hours on my Core i5 with that. That's a lot. So I've tried the 'Good (Very Fast)' option which takes only 2 hours a movie. OK, good.

Then I did some reading and found out that BD Rebuilder's 'Better' option translates to x264's '--preset fast' preset. And BD Rebuilder's 'Good' setting translates to x264's '--preset veryfast' setting.

But x264 has one more preset in-between: '--preset faster'! I absolutely would like to try that. But it can't be chosen through BD Rebuilder. Is there a reason for that? Can I choose this preset without any problem using the ini-file? Will it make sense? Or will I break some BD standard or something?

Thanks in advance.

Edit:

I just tried this addition to the ini-file: TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--preset faster
but BD Rebuilder is not using it. It still uses --preset veryfast (corresponding to the 'Good' setting in BD Rebuilder). Why is it ignoring it? Do I have to tweak the first pass too for it to work?

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 13:27
Hi all, I have the following quality question:

I ususally do BD-25 one-pass CRF movie-only encodings. And since I'm too paranoid ;) to use the 'High-Speed BD-25 option', I normally use the 'Better (Fast)' quality option. But a movie still takes up to 7 hours on my Core i5 with that. That's a lot. So I've tried the 'Good (Very Fast)' option which takes only 2 hours a movie. OK, good.

Then I did some reading and found out that BD Rebuilder's 'Better' option translates to x264's '--preset fast' preset. And BD Rebuilder's 'Good' setting translates to x264's '--preset veryfast' setting.

But x264 has one more preset in-between: '--preset faster'! I absolutely would like to try that. But it can't be chosen through BD Rebuilder. Is there a reason for that? Can I choose this preset without any problem using the ini-file? Will it make sense? Or will I break some BD standard or something?

Thanks in advance.

Edit:

I just tried this addition to the ini-file: TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--preset faster
but BD Rebuilder is not using it. It still uses --preset veryfast (corresponding to the 'Good' setting in BD Rebuilder). Why is it ignoring it? Do I have to tweak the first pass too for it to work? It's removing it because it could override some previous settings and break the BD standard.

"Good (Very Fast)" = X264 setting "--veryfast"
"Better (Fast)" = X264 setting "--fast"
"High Quality (Default)" = X264 setting "--medium"
"Highest (Slow)" = X264 setting "--slow"

and "High Speed Option (BD-25)" = X264 setting "--ultrafast"

On my system there is very little speed difference between "Better" and "High Quality" -- so if I do anything I may replace "--fast" with "--faster" I personally never even use "Better"... what's the point when I can use "High Quality" and get better output for virtually no impact in speed?

The four current choices are plenty -- the program is already getting too complicated, and I'm not going to make it more so.

Dark Shikari
24th April 2010, 13:31
It's removing it because it could override some previous settings and break the BD standard.

"Good (Very Fast)" = X264 setting "--veryfast"
"Better (Fast)" = X264 setting "--fast"
"High Quality (Default)" = X264 setting "--medium"
"Highest (Slow)" = X264 setting "--slow"

On my system there is very little speed difference between "Better" and "High Quality" -- so why would I add another choice between the two and make it more complicated? I personally never even use "Better"... what's the point when I can use "High Quality" and get better output for virtually no impact in speed?

Why not something like:

"Good (Very Fast)" = X264 setting "--superfast"
"Better (Fast)" = X264 setting "--faster"
"High Quality (Default)" = X264 setting "--medium"
"Highest (Slow)" = X264 setting "--slow"

That would have larger gaps in speed between settings.

samtroy
24th April 2010, 13:40
OK, thanks for your replay.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read is x264's 'faster' preset placed between 'fast' and 'veryfast' and not between 'medium' and 'fast'.

From x264 wiki:
---------
ultrafast: subme 0, ref 1, me dia, b-adapt 0, partitions none, trellis 0, bframes 0, weightp 0, no-mixed-refs, no-mbtree, no-scenecut, no-deblock, no-cabac, no-8×8dct, aq-mode 0

veryfast: subme 1, ref 1, me dia, partitions i8×8,i4×4, trellis 0, weightp 0, no-mixed-refs, no-mbtree

faster: subme 4, ref 2, weightp 1, no-mixed-refs, no-mbtree

fast: subme 6, ref 2, rc-lookahead 30

medium: No changes -> BD Rebuilder's default High Quality

slow: subme 8, ref 5, me umh, b-adapt 2, direct auto, rc-lookahead 50

slower: subme 9, ref 8, me umh, b-adapt 2, direct auto, rc-lookahead 60, partitions all, trellis 2

veryslow: subme 10, ref 16, me umh, b-adapt 2, direct auto, rc-lookahead 60, partitions all, trellis 2, bframes 8, merange 24

placebo: subme 10, ref 16, me tesa, b-adapt 2, direct auto, rc-lookahead 60, partitions all, trellis 2, bframes 16, no-fast-pskip, slow-firstpass
---------

And since the encoding time difference between x264's 'fast' and 'veryfast' is up to 5 hours on my Core i5 system I thought 'faster' *may be* be a good compromise..

Cheers, S.

samtroy
24th April 2010, 13:44
Why not something like:

"Good (Very Fast)" = X264 setting "--superfast"
"Better (Fast)" = X264 setting "--faster"
"High Quality (Default)" = X264 setting "--medium"
"Highest (Slow)" = X264 setting "--slow"

That would have larger gaps in speed between settings.

Yes, this looks good too ;).

For some reason x264's new '-superfast' preset is missing from my wiki paste above.. :confused:

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 13:46
Why not something like:

"Good (Very Fast)" = X264 setting "--superfast"
"Better (Fast)" = X264 setting "--faster"
"High Quality (Default)" = X264 setting "--medium"
"Highest (Slow)" = X264 setting "--slow"

That would have larger gaps in speed between settings. Works for me.

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 13:57
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read is x264's 'faster' preset placed between 'fast' and 'veryfast' and not between 'medium' and 'fast'.Yeah. Sorry, I just woke up. It's 6:58am out here in the mountains. I corrected it, but not fast enough. :)

glood1
24th April 2010, 15:19
hi all

i don' t understand difference beteween crf and abr option if my choice encoding option is very slow and my target is bd 25

i want better quality

thanks for answers

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 15:25
hi all

i don' t understand difference beteween crf and abr option if my choice encoding option is very slow and my target is bd 25

i want better quality

thanks for answers
CRF is a constant quality encode (almost, actually constant rate factor) while ABR uses bitrate averaging.

CRF will generally deliver better quality, but its sizing many not be completely accurate (there's a chance you may oversize). BD-RB tries to predict the output size by doing sample CRF encodes, but there is a limit to how well you can predict size with samples. ABR will do a single pass and will average the bitrate, resulting in correct sizing, but with lower quaility at a given bitrate. Two pass will deliver the best quality along with accuracy but it is slower (because of the extra pass). Two pass is the default if you don't select either of the one-pass options.

If you set the quality settings to "Automatic", the quality along with pass selection will be changed automatically based upon what BD-RB believes to be optimal for the specific input length (in minutes) and target size.

glood1
24th April 2010, 15:39
CRF is a constant quality (almost, actually constant rate factor) encode while ABR uses bitrate averaging.

CRF will generally deliver better quality, but its sizing many not be completely accurate (there's a chance you may oversize). Two pass will deliver the best quality along with accuracy but it is slower (because of the extra pass). Two pass is the default if you don't select either of the one-pass options.

If you set the quality settings to "Automatic", the quality along with pass selection will be changed automatically based upon what BD-RB believes to be optimal for the specific input length (in minutes) and target size.

great thanks i understand
ok but if crf and abr are not selected (it s possible)
encoding slow mode is enable, what happen's.
it s crf or abr ?

i must secleted slow mode and CRF >> it s the better result for maximum quality
for source 40 gb and target 25 gb

SoniG
24th April 2010, 15:47
I still have field order issues. I tested 2 different BD with the 0.33.05 version, field order on AVC footages seems to be well detected (Dumbo, 480i 29.97 tff encoded as tff), but mpeg2 footages seems to be wrong (Batman Begins, 480i 29.97 tff encoded as bff) and give me jerky playback. Didn't tested VC-1 footages yet.

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 16:09
I still have field order issues. I tested 2 different BD with the 0.33.05 version, field order on AVC footages seems to be well detected (Dumbo, 480i 29.97 tff encoded as tff), but mpeg2 footages seems to be wrong (Batman Begins, 480i 29.97 tff encoded as bff) and give me jerky playback. Didn't tested VC-1 footages yet. Are you positive? I just checked the code, and it seems to look at the M2TS MPEG-2 flags correctly. I sent you a PM.

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 16:13
great thanks i understand
ok but if crf and abr are not selected (it s possible)
encoding slow mode is enable, what happen's.
it s crf or abr ?

i must secleted slow mode and CRF >> it s the better result for maximum quality
for source 40 gb and target 25 gb It's neither. It is two-pass encoding. Two pass is the best selection for quality. Go back and re-read my previous post.

Also, this is a bug reporting thread. If you want to ask questions like this, open a new thread... only bug reports should be here.

Race Guy
24th April 2010, 16:20
Why not something like:

"Good (Very Fast)" = X264 setting "--superfast"
"Better (Fast)" = X264 setting "--faster"
"High Quality (Default)" = X264 setting "--medium"
"Highest (Slow)" = X264 setting "--slow"

That would have larger gaps in speed between settings.

Correct me if I'm wrong Mr. Dark, but I recall you saying somewhere here that there's no "quality" difference between doing a 1 pass vs a 2 pass encode at the same quality setting.

The only diff was the final output was closer to target size. First pass is the "educated guess" on size, second pass uses that size result to dial in the size of the second pass.

If that's so, how does x264 pick the bitrate? Is it ABR?

SoniG
24th April 2010, 17:08
Correct me if I'm wrong Mr. Dark, but I recall you saying somewhere here that there's no "quality" difference between doing a 1 pass vs a 2 pass encode at the same quality setting.

The only diff was the final output was closer to target size. First pass is the "educated guess" on size, second pass uses that size result to dial in the size of the second pass.

If that's so, how does x264 pick the bitrate? Is it ABR?

Not totally true. 2 pass allow a better bitrate prediction but most of all, it allows to impove image quality in balancing low bitrate/vectors on simple images and high bitrate/vectors on complexe images.

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 17:37
I have updated the first post of this thread with a new release of BD-RB (v0.33.06). The changes for this release are:- Fixed an error in which field order could be detected
incorrectly on MPEG-2 interlaced sources.
- Updated the audio AVS so that sample rates and sample
sizes that are not compatible with AFTEN AC3 output are
converted before being sent to the encoder. This fixes
some issues that cause audio encoding failures.
- Added two hidden settings related to secondary video
encoding. SECONDARY_USE_QUALITY=1 tells BD-RB to use
the same quality settings for secondaries as is used
for primary video. SECONDARY_CRF=n sets a CRF value to
be used for secondary video. Be careful... any bitrate
you use for secondaries is stolen directly from the
primary video.
- Changed the x264 profiles used with the "Good" and
"Better" quality selections in order to allow for more
discrete differences. The "Good" quality selection now
uses the x264 "--superfast" profile and the "Better"
selection uses "--faster".
- Tweaked the "Automatic" quality selections to adjust for
the changes in profiles. Also added greater distinction
in quality selection for different input video sizes.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1563).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

colinhunt
24th April 2010, 18:49
Something rather peculiar popped up when I inadvertently tried to process BD-RB's output with BluRip. I meant to process the original file, but pointed BluRip to BD-RB's output by accident. I used BD-RB v0.33.05 to make a movie-only BD25 backup, with quality set for Highest.

Here's what BluRip's Demux log says of the .m2ts output by BD-RB:

[24.4.2010 19:23:36]M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1:40:46, 24p
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] 1: Chapters, 12 chapters
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] 2: h264/AVC, 1080p23.999 (16:9)
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] 3: DTS Master Audio, French, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 96khz
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] (core: DTS-ES-96/24, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 96khz)
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] v02 The video bitstream is encoded in a non-standard framerate.
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] v02 The video bitstream framerate field doesn't seem to match the timestamps.

And here's what BluRip says of the original file:

[24.4.2010 20:37:07] M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1:40:46, 24p
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] 1: Chapters, 12 chapters
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] 2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 (16:9)
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] 3: DTS Master Audio, French, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 96khz
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] (core: DTS-ES-96/24, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 96khz)
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] v02 The video framerate is correct, but rather unusual.

I was attempting to add English subtitles to a BD25 backup of a French movie, and noticed that while the subs were synced fine at the beginning of the movie, they were several seconds off by the end. This difference in framerate might be the explanation.

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 19:42
Something rather peculiar popped up when I inadvertently tried to process BD-RB's output with BluRip. I meant to process the original file, but pointed BluRip to BD-RB's output by accident. I used BD-RB v0.33.05 to make a movie-only BD25 backup, with quality set for Highest.

Here's what BluRip's Demux log says of the .m2ts output by BD-RB:

[24.4.2010 19:23:36]M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1:40:46, 24p
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] 1: Chapters, 12 chapters
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] 2: h264/AVC, 1080p23.999 (16:9)
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] 3: DTS Master Audio, French, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 96khz
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] (core: DTS-ES-96/24, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 96khz)
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] v02 The video bitstream is encoded in a non-standard framerate.
[24.4.2010 19:23:36] v02 The video bitstream framerate field doesn't seem to match the timestamps.

And here's what BluRip says of the original file:

[24.4.2010 20:37:07] M2TS, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1:40:46, 24p
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] 1: Chapters, 12 chapters
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] 2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 (16:9)
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] 3: DTS Master Audio, French, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 96khz
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] (core: DTS-ES-96/24, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 96khz)
[24.4.2010 20:37:08] v02 The video framerate is correct, but rather unusual.

I was attempting to add English subtitles to a BD25 backup of a French movie, and noticed that while the subs were synced fine at the beginning of the movie, they were several seconds off by the end. This difference in framerate might be the explanation. Did you do anything else between the two processes? BD Rebuilder never sets the framerate to 23.999. Either the demuxer is wrong or somehow an incorrectly encoded stream with that framerate was fed into BD Rebuilder.

I'd suggest you use TSMUXER to check the framerate on the original source and the BD Rebuilder output.

It could be that is what X264 produced. But, with that said, with that setting you would be off by 250ms in a 2 hour movie. You wouldn't be able to see that in your subtitles.

deank
24th April 2010, 19:59
These 'logs' look exactly the same as eac3to's. I'd say BluRip uses eac3to and that's what you see...

colinhunt
24th April 2010, 20:07
Did you do anything else between the two processes?
Nope, nothing.

It could be that is what X264 produced. But, with that said, with that setting you would be off by 250ms in a 2 hour movie. You wouldn't be able to see that in your subtitles.
Ah, indeed. Yet for some reason subs drift out of sync during the movie.

I'd suggest you use TSMUXER to check the framerate on the original source and the BD Rebuilder output.
tsMuxeR reports 24 for both.

These 'logs' look exactly the same as eac3to's. I'd say BluRip uses eac3to and that's what you see...
That is correct.

update: I fed both files to Mediainfo in Advanced mode. Here's the relevant info from the original file:


General
Duration : 6046739.911333
Duration : 1h 40mn 46s 740ms
Duration : 01:40:46.740

Video
Codec profile : High@L4.1
Codec settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Duration : 6046000
Duration : 1h 40mn 46s 0ms
Duration : 01:40:46.000
Frame rate : 24.000 fps
Frame count : 145104

And here's the info from BD-RB's output:

General
Duration : 6046004.333333
Duration : 1h 40mn 46s 4ms
Duration : 01:40:46.004

Video
Codec profile : High@L4.1
Codec settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Duration : 6045958
Duration : 1h 40mn 45s 958ms
Duration : 01:40:45.958
Frame rate : 24.000 fps
Frame count : 145103

update: RipBot also says BD-RB output is 23.999fps. Furthermore, I encoded the original m2ts into 640w/24fps mkv and opened it in SubtitleEdit 2.90 for Visual Sync. The subtitle file I have syncs perfectly to the mkv without any adjustments. I'll encode the BD-RB output into lores mkv to see how the subs sync in SubtitleEdit.

update: Subtitles sync perfectly to a lores 24fps mkv created from BD-RB output. I guess the problem has to lie with tsmuxer which I use to inject subtitles and create BD output.

ggab_
24th April 2010, 20:33
Any idea why Burn Current Disc under the File menu would be greyed out? ImgBurn is installed. I have to drag the files over manually and it burns OK. Back when I first installed this program I used this option, not sure why it changed?

It was this way with 0.33.04 and is still that way with 0.33.05.

SoniG
24th April 2010, 20:40
I have updated the first post of this thread with a new release of BD-RB (v0.33.06). The changes for this release are:......
What a reactivity! Not even had time to push the Backup button!
Fields issue fixed!

jdobbs
24th April 2010, 22:35
Any idea why Burn Current Disc under the File menu would be greyed out? ImgBurn is installed. I have to drag the files over manually and it burns OK. Back when I first installed this program I used this option, not sure why it changed?

It was this way with 0.33.04 and is still that way with 0.33.05.If you haven't done a backup yet, it would be greyed out because there is no "current disc". BD Rebuilder looks at this registry entry:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ImgBurn\InstallDirectory

to find ImgBurn's path and determine if it has been installed. I just checked it, and it's working correctly for me. You may want to try reinstalling ImgBurn.

ggab_
24th April 2010, 23:26
If you haven't done a backup yet, it would be greyed out because there is no "current disc". BD Rebuilder looks at this registry entry:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ImgBurn\InstallDirectory

to find ImgBurn's path and determine if it has been installed. I just checked it, and it's working correctly for me. You may want to try reinstalling ImgBurn.

I'm definitely doing it after a backup is done and before I close out BD Rebuilder. My HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ImgBurn\InstallDirectory key says C:\Program Files (x86)\ImgBurn

8ternity
24th April 2010, 23:32
From the first post in this thread:

... In order to make this beta version work, you have to first install some other packages. I recommend you use the versions linked below, as sometimes new version changes can cause unexpected issues. Here's what you need to do: ....

You are free to do what you want with your PC, but it has been said a trillion times by jdobbs in this thread that people should not complain if they run into issues when using other versions.

@Sharc
c.c. to Jdobbs:

I know the rules... i've read it. Im asking that question for that point:

i use ripbot264 latest version for bugs and now the ripbot program forced to detect an newer version of ffdshow than yours, and i can't start the program if i don't have an newer version. I need to install / uninstall all the times i need to use one or the other program.

If i see that i have an issue with BD Rebuilder, i unstall newer version, reboot, install back the rev. 3326, and restart a blank new project.

I like both softwares for differents uses :)

Thanks you!! :p

9020V
24th April 2010, 23:51
Is anyone having trouble playing BDR-25 backups on PS3? They've been working fine up until a few weeks ago, I've noticed the last few I've done don't play properly on PS3 (full disc mode).

Surrogates would not play at all. It just went into a blank screen on the PS3 and I could not go to top menu or fast forward. Info said title 50 with 0:00:00 time.

I then tried Star Trek. At first it seemed like it was going to work. The starship appeared like on the disc-open sequence, but then it froze. On subsequent attempts, it blanked screen just like surrogates.

The Informat! plays all the trailers ok, but it blank screens when it gets to the main title (again, info says that it has 0:00:00 time and none of the menu buttons work).

All of the discs work fine in the PC with powerdvd and I tried a movie-only backup of surrogates and it played fine in the PS3.

Rips were done with DVDFAB. I tried re-ripping the burned disc with anydvd and disabling bd-live, but it didn't make a difference (I don't even know if it is a bd-live disc).

Anyone have any clue as to what the problem is? Is it some sort of copy protection that the PS3's latest firmware is preventing it from playing these discs? Oh, and I also tried them on multiple media types including verbatim BD-R 25 and same thing.

jdobbs
25th April 2010, 01:25
I'm definitely doing it after a backup is done and before I close out BD Rebuilder. My HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ImgBurn\InstallDirectory key says C:\Program Files (x86)\ImgBurn Look in that directory, if there is a file called imgburn.exe -- then BD-RB should enable itself.

Shuttle99
25th April 2010, 01:49
jdobbs question? I just did a movie only with 33.05 to bd9 I used automatic qualtiy setting and it choose to do it 1 pass and took about 6 hours I just installed 33.06 and going to try the same movie again with automatic qualtiy setting but this time it choose to do it with 2 pass I don't really care which one it chooses. I see you made changes to the new version on quality settings so I'm sure thats why it wants to do it a 2 pass but my question is does a 2 pass conversion always produce a better conversion compared to a 1 pass whether you can truely notice a differance or not the conversion is always better with a 2 pass?

jdobbs
25th April 2010, 01:53
jdobbs question? I just did a movie only with 33.05 to bd9 I used automatic qualtiy setting and it choose to do it 1 pass and took about 6 hours I just installed 33.06 and going to try the same movie again with automatic qualtiy setting but this time it choose to do it with 2 pass I don't really care which one it chooses. I see you made changes to the new version on quality settings so I'm sure thats why it wants to do it a 2 pass but my question is does a 2 pass conversion always produce a better conversion compared to a 1 pass whether you can truely notice a differance or not the conversion is always better with a 2 pass? With all things being equal (bitrate, source, settings etc.) two pass will almost always result in a better encode. It's a matter of better distributing the available bandwidth across the entire stream.

What you will find between this version and the previous is that all things are not equal because the presets have changed. That's why you will see different selections.

Let me know how long this one takes.

Shuttle99
25th April 2010, 01:58
Thanks for the answer.

turbojet
25th April 2010, 02:43
The 23.999 issue might be because Directshowsource.dll is known to change framerates hence the assumefps.

In the most recent version SUPPRESS_FF_WARNING=1 doesn't work, popup still comes up every time. I use this because I'm using x64 avisynth, x264 to gain speed, about 10% (good) to 25% (slow). It's an incredibly easy hack (if anyone would like to know I'd be willing to share) also shouldn't be tough to add to BD-RB itself (simple as check for x64 OS, check for Avisynth x64, point to x264 x64 exe, use 64 bit versions of decomb and ffms dll's.

9020V
25th April 2010, 03:13
Is anyone having trouble playing BDR-25 backups on PS3? They've been working fine up until a few weeks ago, I've noticed the last few I've done don't play properly on PS3 (full disc mode).

Surrogates would not play at all. It just went into a blank screen on the PS3 and I could not go to top menu or fast forward. Info said title 50 with 0:00:00 time.

I then tried Star Trek. At first it seemed like it was going to work. The starship appeared like on the disc-open sequence, but then it froze. On subsequent attempts, it blanked screen just like surrogates.

The Informat! plays all the trailers ok, but it blank screens when it gets to the main title (again, info says that it has 0:00:00 time and none of the menu buttons work).

All of the discs work fine in the PC with powerdvd and I tried a movie-only backup of surrogates and it played fine in the PS3.

Rips were done with DVDFAB. I tried re-ripping the burned disc with anydvd and disabling bd-live, but it didn't make a difference (I don't even know if it is a bd-live disc).

Anyone have any clue as to what the problem is? Is it some sort of copy protection that the PS3's latest firmware is preventing it from playing these discs? Oh, and I also tried them on multiple media types including verbatim BD-R 25 and same thing.

Oh, and one other thing. The Informant! was only a 17GB disc, so BD-rebuilder was not even used. So I suspect this may be a problem with IMGBurn or the PS3, but I am not sure. Has anyone else experienced anything like this recently? I've gone back through all the backups I've made and had to toss about 10 discs. I need to backup again, but don't want to start until I have found out exactly what the problem is. Again, only the PS3 seems to be affected, but I don't have another standalone player besides powerdvd.

8ternity
25th April 2010, 06:48
Jdobbs:

Question. Can we leave checked the option "Use DECOMB with interlaced sources" ? I have seen that for my latest conversion "BAD_LIEUTENANT" i have ntsc 720x480 bonus movies having interlaced mosaics lines in the original and converted files, can we leave all the time CHECKED and it will not affect 1920x1080P and 1280x720 video files?

Thank You.

8ternity
25th April 2010, 06:53
Oh, and one other thing. The Informant! was only a 17GB disc, so BD-rebuilder was not even used. So I suspect this may be a problem with IMGBurn or the PS3, but I am not sure. Has anyone else experienced anything like this recently? I've gone back through all the backups I've made and had to toss about 10 discs. I need to backup again, but don't want to start until I have found out exactly what the problem is. Again, only the PS3 seems to be affected, but I don't have another standalone player besides powerdvd.

What i've read about PS3, every backups on a BD-R 25GB use with PS3 need to be patched with AVCHD-Patcher.

Here the post about this tool.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15285018&postcount=1662

8ternity

jdobbs
25th April 2010, 07:03
Jdobbs:

Question. Can we leave checked the option "Use DECOMB with interlaced sources" ? I have seen that for my latest conversion "BAD_LIEUTENANT" i have ntsc 720x480 bonus movies having interlaced mosaics lines in the original and converted files, can we leave all the time CHECKED and it will not affect 1920x1080P and 1280x720 video files?

Thank You. Yes you can leave it checked. It only applies to interlaced sources.

samtroy
25th April 2010, 12:47
Thanks for the new update, jdobbs! Much appreciated!

9020V
25th April 2010, 15:49
What i've read about PS3, every backups on a BD-R 25GB use with PS3 need to be patched with AVCHD-Patcher.

Here the post about this tool.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15285018&postcount=1662

8ternity

I've never used AVCHD-Patcher until a few weeks ago when a lot of the recent titles I backed up blank screened on the PS3. All the other ones have worked fine, including the few DVD9 backups I have done. I was under the impression that AVCHD-Patcher was not necessary anymore. Anyways, I might try it.

deank
25th April 2010, 16:10
The post he quoted is from 2 years ago and is for different things... Outdated anyway.

***

You don't need AVCHD-patcher AT ALL for BD-R media. And you don't need it at all with BD-Rebuilder for "Movie only" backups to DVD media. The one thing you may accomplish using it is to break all.

There were a lot of reports of problems after updating PS3 to FW 3.30 - most of the reports about BD discs stop working/playing, console hangs, no sound, etc...

Another user reported issues but it turned out that the problem is with the media he used, so a good start would be to try your discs in another BD player before throwing them out.

It is possible that the blu-laser of your PS3 is on its way already...

SoniG
25th April 2010, 20:20
jdobbs : I had another field order issue, I sent you a PM.

jfcarbel
26th April 2010, 01:58
I see this requires Matroska Splitter. I have some other tools that mention the requirement of the Haali Media Splitter.

I assume these both cannot be on a machine at the same time. So what do I do in this case? Does one supercede the other and offer any features that might be needed by the other.

jdobbs
26th April 2010, 02:21
:I see this requires Matroska Splitter. I have some other tools that mention the requirement of the Haali Media Splitter.

I assume these both cannot be on a machine at the same time. So what do I do in this case? Does one supercede the other and offer any features that might be needed by the other.:confused: The Matroska Splitter is the Haali Media Splitter.

9020V
26th April 2010, 05:32
The post he quoted is from 2 years ago and is for different things... Outdated anyway.

***

You don't need AVCHD-patcher AT ALL for BD-R media. And you don't need it at all with BD-Rebuilder for "Movie only" backups to DVD media. The one thing you may accomplish using it is to break all.

There were a lot of reports of problems after updating PS3 to FW 3.30 - most of the reports about BD discs stop working/playing, console hangs, no sound, etc...

Another user reported issues but it turned out that the problem is with the media he used, so a good start would be to try your discs in another BD player before throwing them out.

It is possible that the blu-laser of your PS3 is on its way already...

The discs work in my PC, but it's just those recent 3 titles. All the other backups I've made that worked in the past still work. I tried those titles on different media, and same problem, so I don't think it's the media. This issue seems to have started occurring after I updated my firmware in the PS3 a few weeks ago. When I do a movie backup only, the movies work. Where can I find out more about the PS3 problem? I am curious to see if others are experiencing the same thing I am.

jfcarbel
26th April 2010, 06:34
::confused: The Matroska Splitter is the Haali Media Splitter.

Well, you learn something new everyday :)

I guess I have seen it referred to in many different ways and most times the developer has the splitter included in the download package so I never realized it was one in the same.

Thanks for clearing that up :thanks:

On another note related to the splitter, it seems many tools mention you need to use their version and not the lastest release as their are issues with eac3to and lastest releases. I think the 11-1-2009 is the release suggested.
I looked at hashcode of your exe for splitter and it seems to be this same older version as well.

Zot
26th April 2010, 07:53
The discs work in my PC, but it's just those recent 3 titles. All the other backups I've made that worked in the past still work. I tried those titles on different media, and same problem, so I don't think it's the media. This issue seems to have started occurring after I updated my firmware in the PS3 a few weeks ago. When I do a movie backup only, the movies work. Where can I find out more about the PS3 problem? I am curious to see if others are experiencing the same thing I am.

I have a PS3 with 3.30 f/w. I've recently used BD RB 0.33.05 to back up The Young Victoria (movie only) to BD-25. No problems. I did a 1:1 backup of Avatar to BD-R DL. So the main menu, scene selector and movie. Plays fine. I dont usually backup extras, just the movie, but I haven't had any problems with playback. Watched a DVD I backed up 3 years ago with just DVDfab - menus, movie, extras - no problems. I've heard some people on another forum lament the memorex and ridata BD's go bad after several months. I haven't experienced that myself.

Z

Mr. Monte
26th April 2010, 14:19
With all things being equal (bitrate, source, settings etc.) two pass will almost always result in a better encode. It's a matter of better distributing the available bandwidth across the entire stream.

Dark S says that this not true anymore. That CRF and 2-pass are the same. In THAT all 2-pass does is find out what CRF value to use. They both use the CRF algorythm, have lookahead and use a table.

Did I miss something? :thanks:

jdobbs
26th April 2010, 14:50
Dark S says that this not true anymore. That CRF and 2-pass are the same. In THAT all 2-pass does is find out what CRF value to use. They both use the CRF algorythm, have lookahead and use a table.

Did I miss something? :thanks: I think you're missing the context of what he is saying. Also, we weren't talking about CRF. We were talking about one-pass ABR. When you compare CRF to 2-pass, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Yes, you can do an encode with CRF that is very close to 2 pass (but IMHO two pass is better). The issue with CRF is that you aren't encoding to a specified output size (bitrate) -- you are encoding to a constant quality level. So the size of your output is unpredictable. That's ok when you are planning to playback from a hard drive or an iPod, but it's not a good thing when you have to burn on a specific disc size like BD-5/9/25.

BD-RB will let you do a CRF one-pass encode, and will attempt to predict the size by doing some sample encodes to determine the best (closest) CRF value. But even that can sometimes be off significantly because your sample is never a perfect representation of the overall video. You can get more accurate by increasing your sample size -- but it very quickly becomes a lost cause because the sample encodes rapidly become just as time consuming as a first-pass.

iSeries
26th April 2010, 17:45
Hi,

Backup to BD-9 of 'The Box' (UK version) has just finished. This disc is unusual in that it has both DTS-MA and TrueHD tracks. I selected the TrueHD track and BD-RB correctly demuxed the 640kbps AC3 core. However I was quite surprised to find that at the end of encoding BD-RB then re-encoded the AC3 track. Is this normal? Why would it need to do this?

SoniG
26th April 2010, 20:49
Hi,

Backup to BD-9 of 'The Box' (UK version) has just finished. This disc is unusual in that it has both DTS-MA and TrueHD tracks. I selected the TrueHD track and BD-RB correctly demuxed the 640kbps AC3 core. However I was quite surprised to find that at the end of encoding BD-RB then re-encoded the AC3 track. Is this normal? Why would it need to do this?
Do you have well checked 'Do not reencode AC3' and unchecked 'Use 448Kbps for AC3 encoding' on the Setup? What are the final specs of this AC3 track on your movie file?

iSeries
26th April 2010, 21:40
Hi SoniG - yes 'do not re-encode AC3' is checked, and 'Use 448kbps' is unchecked. The demuxed core is 640kbps, and it re-encoded again to 640kbps (and came out a few bytes bigger).

Moviewatcher666
26th April 2010, 22:18
The discs work in my PC, but it's just those recent 3 titles. All the other backups I've made that worked in the past still work. I tried those titles on different media, and same problem, so I don't think it's the media. This issue seems to have started occurring after I updated my firmware in the PS3 a few weeks ago. When I do a movie backup only, the movies work. Where can I find out more about the PS3 problem? I am curious to see if others are experiencing the same thing I am.

Do a search for PS3BDFix. It is a small executable program that sets the copy protection bit off. I had some movies that did not work on a PS3 while others did. When I used PS3BDFix on the MT2S files, the BD movies then worked. I did BD25 full disk copies Region A.

Just to be clear, don't throw out your existing copies. Copy the rips back to your harddrive, use the PS3BDFix program and then burn back to a new disk. This worked for me!

Let me know how it works.

Moviewatcher666

chudm
26th April 2010, 22:59
jdobbs is there any way to convert dts hd to ac3? cause when bdrebuilder convert dts hd to regular dts, its still to big for dvd5/dvd9...

i saw the problem...:

[17:09:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:09:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00001__4352.AVS]

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 00:20
jdobbs is there any way to convert dts hd to ac3? cause when bdrebuilder convert dts hd to regular dts, its still to big for dvd5/dvd9...

i saw the problem...:

[17:09:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:09:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00001__4352.AVS] Yes. It should do it now. The fix I added to v0.33.06 should stop the error you reported. Just make sure you don't have "Do not convert DTS to AC3" checked in the SETUP dialog.

brento
27th April 2010, 00:49
Hey,
I bought The Hurt Locker on blu-ray, and tried to back it up to a DVD-5 using BDRebuilder.
I get through the encoding phase no problem, but when I get to the reencoding phase, i get an error "X264.exe has stopped working" and the shrinking process is aborted.


[14:31:47] BD Rebuilder v0.33.05 (beta)
- Source: HURT_LOCKER_NA
- Input BD size: 35.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:10:39.832]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[14:31:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:31:51] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [14:31:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 187,968 frames
- Bitrate: 3,574 Kbs
- [14:31:51] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.05 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
[14:31:55] - Failed video encode, aborted
any help would be much appreciated

SoniG
27th April 2010, 01:39
Hi SoniG - yes 'do not re-encode AC3' is checked, and 'Use 448kbps' is unchecked. The demuxed core is 640kbps, and it re-encoded again to 640kbps (and came out a few bytes bigger).Ok I had a look at a WORKFILES folder and I think the process is due to the audio amplification of the AC3 files. It should not be really a re-encode but more a gain volume process. You can remove this step by adding 'AUDIO_AMPLIFY=1' in BDREBUILDER.INI. It does not mean it will amplify the sound, it means it will let it at x1.

For info to jdobbs, in fact AC3 encoding that is an acoustic compression algorithm is especially normalized to a -6db level. This normality sound level is due to the decode=>compress/expand sound signal that characterize this kind of format. It's an audio level normality defined by Dolby that all receivers recognize and use to process the signal. It is used for example in the LFE or CENTER compression processed independently of the other channels. In amplifying the AC3 signal by 1.2, you would prevent some audio receivers to manage the sound compression efficiently in reducing the margin of action and even some time causing overdrives and distortions. So yes the sound is higher and nearer to 0db, but despite the specific AC3 acoustic compression management.

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 02:18
Hey,
I bought The Hurt Locker on blu-ray, and tried to back it up to a DVD-5 using BDRebuilder.
I get through the encoding phase no problem, but when I get to the reencoding phase, i get an error "X264.exe has stopped working" and the shrinking process is aborted.


any help would be much appreciatedSo where are the rest of the reported settings that are shown after a failed encode? Did you edit them out before posting the log?

Also -- use the newest version.

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 02:25
For info to jdobbs, in fact AC3 encoding that is an acoustic compression algorithm is especially normalized to a -6db level. This normality sound level is due to the decode=>compress/expand sound signal that characterize this kind of format. It's an audio level normality defined by Dolby that all receivers recognize and use to process the signal. It is used for example in the LFE or CENTER compression processed independently of the other channels. In amplifying the AC3 signal by 1.2, you would prevent some audio receivers to manage the sound compression efficiently in reducing the margin of action and even some time causing overdrives and distortions. So yes the sound is higher and nearer to 0db, but despite the specific AC3 acoustic compression management. I understand how Dolby works very well. I add the amplification because to my ears it sounds better and I don't have to keep worrying about volume. The authors use lower volume because it gives them a greater dynamic range. All channels are amplified equally, so if there is a negative gain difference between the LFE or CENTER and other channels -- it would still be there. In hundreds of encodes I have never experience high-volume clipping or distortion.

MHO: They just set the volume too low to impress their friends with their "greater dynamic range".

But, anyone who doesn't want to amplify can very easily change it to no amplification with the hidden command AUDIO_AMPLIFY=1.

pilot550
27th April 2010, 02:26
There are a lot of posts here. I've read through a bunch of them but there is no way for me to get through them all. So if someone would please indulge me.

I am trying to make a full backup, not movie only, of a Blu-ray onto a standard DVD (DVD-9 or DVD-5) to play on my PS3 which has firmware 3.30 on it. I am using BD Rebuilder 0.33.06 beta. Right now everything I have tried keeps resulting in my PS3 seeing my DVD as a data disc. Even if I use AVCHD Patcher 1.06. From reading these forums my key problem seems to be my desire for a full backup with menu's, special features and everything else burned onto a standard DVD. So right now it is not possible to do this in a way which is PS3 compatible. Is that correct?

Rob_G
27th April 2010, 02:37
I'm not sure what has changed, but lately almost all my 2 pass attempts fail when starting the second pass. X264 cannot seem to load the stats file created from the first pass.

I think something changed in anydvd to cause this. Even dvdfab cannot re-ecode the video. I can do a 1 pass CBR with bdrebuilder that is successful though.

I'm running a fresh xp image in virtualbox with 2 processors and 512MB memory assigned to it.

Rob

brento
27th April 2010, 02:52
So where are the rest of the reported settings that are shown after a failed encode? Did you edit them out before posting the log?

Also -- use the newest version.

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[21:23:17] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: HURT_LOCKER_NA
- Input BD size: 35.13 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:10:39.832]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:23:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:23:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [21:52:00] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [21:52:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 187,968 frames
- Bitrate: 3,574 Kbs
- [21:52:00] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6001]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
[21:52:12] - Failed video encode, aborted

this is the complete log.
still get the x264.exe error in the newest version. any ideas? thanks :)

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 03:14
this is the complete log.
still get the x264.exe error in the newest version. any ideas? thanks :)There should be a whole lot more after the AVISYNTH 2.5.7.0, Ok line. It should say whether HAALI is installed correctly, and the same for FFDSHOW and all the other support apps.

I just looked at the code -- and it can't output a log with a video encode error without those things...

SoniG
27th April 2010, 03:31
jdobbs : Yeah that's what I was trying to explain. Anyway, when we set AUDIO_AMPLIFY=1, it should be well to remove the command line from AVS files instead of process it as 1. And I don't understand ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000)), is it not already the specs of the original AC3 tracks?

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 03:48
jdobbs : Yeah that's what I was trying to explain. Anyway, when we set AUDIO_AMPLIFY=1, it should be well to remove the command line from AVS files instead of process it as 1. And I don't understand ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000)), is it not already the specs of the original AC3 tracks? The original may not necessarily be AC3. Also, blu-ray supports 96Khz and 192Khz sample rates and 20 & 24 bit samples. I added that because I'd gotten bug reports where AFTEN was failing in it's attempt to reencode a source with a 96Khz sample rate.

8ternity
27th April 2010, 05:03
:pI have a PS3 with 3.30 f/w. I've recently used BD RB 0.33.05 to back up The Young Victoria (movie only) to BD-25. No problems. I did a 1:1 backup of Avatar to BD-R DL. So the main menu, scene selector and movie. Plays fine. I dont usually backup extras, just the movie, but I haven't had any problems with playback. Watched a DVD I backed up 3 years ago with just DVDfab - menus, movie, extras - no problems. I've heard some people on another forum lament the memorex and ridata BD's go bad after several months. I haven't experienced that myself.

Z

Personnally i was talking about the FULL DISC and not MOVIE ONLY. I've read that with some posts because they where talking about BD-R 25GB full disc backup. I have personally tested 10 minutes on a PS3, but my brother took me one movie to test it and he was reported to be that the movie is freezing sometimes (2-4 times) in his Ps3. Also i was burning in 2X the lower than i can. I have listen the hole movie in my bluray sony bdps250 reader and it played fine.

I just would like to know if someone else here has tester full backup with bd rebuilder in BD-R 25GB and movies played fine because i was planning to purchass an Ps3.

Any feedback is appreciated.

8ternity
27th April 2010, 05:41
Question:

When resuming an project; did the video encoded when it has beem resumed can be corrupt? Did we have an option to restart from the begining the encoding the current batch filename?

I have resumed an project and i would like to must be sure that the resumed file (main movie) will be good.

:thanks:

SoniG
27th April 2010, 06:03
8ternity : No worry, backup is always resumed in restarting the last pass/track process. No corrupt possible. Even if you modify an important thing in the setup, then the present backup is cancelled and restarted from the beginning. However in pure batch layout, I didn't test it yet but you can watch what it's done in the log tab.

jdobbs : Mmh I understand, I suspected it was again for a compliancy purpose. I don't know if amplify or changing a sample rate with the same value degrade in some way the original track, even a bit, but eventually, one day, it would be nice for standard AC3/DTS tracks to just be demuxed/remuxed without any process, but I'm sure you already thought about it.

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 06:09
Question:

When resuming an project; did the video encoded when it has beem resumed can be corrupt? Did we have an option to restart from the begining the encoding the current batch filename?

I have resumed an project and i would like to must be sure that the resumed file (main movie) will be good.

:thanks: It should be good. BD-RB keeps track of where it was when you stopped. But if you want to start over, just say "No" to the "Resume" prompt.

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 06:10
jdobbs : Mmh I understand, I suspected it was again for a compliancy purpose. I don't know if amplify or changing a sample rate with the same value degrade in some way the original track, even a bit, but eventually, one day, it would be nice for standard AC3/DTS tracks to just be demuxed/remuxed without any process, but I'm sure you already thought about it. They should be now. If you tell it not to reecode them, then you will get the original. If it is BD-5/9 you will get the core (because HD is too big). But since I got a bug report on it, I'll go back and check just to be sure, the original code has changed a lot since I added that feature.

BD-RB will create the AVS file either way (in case someone changes the option and the "resumes") -- but it doesn't necessarily use it. It's the same with encoding. It is possible that the AC3 encoding is done, but the original (core) is multiplexed. But, as I said, I'll go back and look.

Also, if it is movie-only and is going to BD-5/9, you're not supposed to keep DTS because DTS is not supported by AVCHD. I have a hidden option, though, that will allow you to override that -- but I wouldn't recommend it.

SoniG
27th April 2010, 07:24
jdobbs : I never use any BD9/AVCHD settings, I just try to reduce original BD size in using the best quality possible to archive and play from a server. And just for this, I'm really grateful your software exists, and I think it is the most advanced. I always try to have a 10-12000 Kbps bitrate for the main movie video track and just remove the HD audio in keeping core or original AC3/DTS tracks. However I noticed these commands on the AVS in normally standard AC3 files. But I hear you about the fact you don't always use them. Pity... bad for me! :) By the way, did you have a look at my Batman Returns bonus sample?

PeteWalker74
27th April 2010, 16:32
Good morning all. My first time posting, but don't be afraid! I think I've done a good job at not being a newb, and hopefully have given you everything necessary to advise me what my issue is. Please advise otherwise.

Windows 7 x64
All disc -> ISO backups done using latest version of AnyDVD HD (6.6.3.4)
Latest version of BD Rebuilder installed (0.33.06)
All recommended executables from page 1 of this thread

I've been able to backup some discs without error, but ran into an issue with "Sin City" and "9" recently.

1. I'm receiving "HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version" from the Inspect.exe. I saw that jdobbs pointed out (I hope I'm getting this right) that it doesn't have an internal version number to check against, so he does a CRC check (?) of the directory, which is thrown off by additional files. I have uninstalled and reinstalled, and even manually deleted the installation directory after uninstalling, before reinstalling again, all to no avail.

2. Backing up "9" I get:

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[10:54:39] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: 9
- Input BD size: 21.92 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:19:24.259]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[10:54:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:54:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00115]
- [11:01:43] Reencoding: VID_00115 (1 of 1)
- [11:01:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 114,228 frames
- Bitrate: 6,422 Kbs
- [11:01:43] Reencoding: VID_00115, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[11:01:45] - Failed video encode, aborted


All reports OK except for the HAALI Splitter (which I am installing from page 1 of this very thread as described above).

3. Encoding "Sin City" gives me a pop-up that states:

BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1605 [11:26:08] ExtractAudioSubs () 0053 1605

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[11:18:06] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: SIN_CITY_D1
- Input BD size: 26.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:03.685]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:18:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:18:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00614]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00614]
- [11:26:08] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 10 min 58 sec
[11:27:15] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


I have attempted the alternate movie only backup method (it brings up 2 in the list, both fail with the same error) to no avail, with all 3 methods giving me the same error. I've also attempted using "AUD_004 AC3, Multi-Ch, English" vs. "AUD_001 DTS-HD XLL Multi-Ch English"

Thank you so much for reading this and assisting me getting this resolved. I gave it my best effort to resolve these issues on my own, and while I hate admitting defeat, I have no choice at this point. I hope I've included all the information necessary, but please advise me of how I can be of further help, if I have not.

PS Thanks jdobbs for you continued efforts on this project. Once I have all my issues resolved, you sir, are receiving a donation from me. Thank you kindly.

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 16:51
@PeteWalker74

Check and make sure you don't have any other VC-1 codecs installed (such as "Codec Packs") that are interfering with VC-1. Also recheck your version of HAALI. Sometimes other software will install a different version without your knowledge. The odds are very high that HAALI is the issue. There are multiple versions of HAALI out there that will not properly split VC-1 M2TS files. If you could post a directory listing of c:\program files\haali\matroskasplitter I can tell you if it is right... note: If you're on a Win7 64 bit system it will be "program files (x86)"


I'll see if I can pick up "Sin City" and check it out.

PeteWalker74
27th April 2010, 17:11
Thanks for the fast reply. Since this is a PC I just put together, I've barely installed anything, let alone codec packs. The only codecs I've installed are related to BD Rebuilder. That being said, I poured over my Start Menu and installed programs, and took screen shots. Being the man I take you to be, you want proof (and rightfully so). Now perhaps it's one of these installed programs that have installed something VC1-related codec that may muck around with the operation of BD Rebuilder, and if that's the case and I'm just oblivious to it, my sincere apologies. I've also included a shot of Haali installation directory. Hopefully, providing these shots can take any "guess work" out of the equation, so that you can see for yourself what I have installed. Thanks, once again.

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 17:47
@PeteWalker74

That is very definitely not the HAALI version I have linked in the first post of this thread. It is also very likely the source of your problem.

If you want it to work. First remove HAALI, then delete that folder, then install from the first post of this thread (Matroska Splitter in Step #1).

9020V
27th April 2010, 18:04
Do a search for PS3BDFix. It is a small executable program that sets the copy protection bit off. I had some movies that did not work on a PS3 while others did. When I used PS3BDFix on the MT2S files, the BD movies then worked. I did BD25 full disk copies Region A.

Just to be clear, don't throw out your existing copies. Copy the rips back to your harddrive, use the PS3BDFix program and then burn back to a new disk. This worked for me!

Let me know how it works.

Moviewatcher666

Thanks I will try that. I am doing BD25 full disk Region A also. When your movies did not work, what were the symptoms? Did they blank screen? Do you remember what titles they were?

The Informant is the one that is really throwing me because I backed it up 1-to-1 on a BD25 since the original is only 17GB.

Edit: I found another program called CPIStrip - does that do the same thing? Can this functionality be put into BDRebuilder?

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 18:08
@PeteWalker74

Since your post says "D1", I assume you are using the newer "Recut" version of "Sin City", correct?

PeteWalker74
27th April 2010, 19:52
@PeteWalker74

That is very definitely not the HAALI version I have linked in the first post of this thread. It is also very likely the source of your problem.

If you want it to work. First remove HAALI, then delete that folder, then install from the first post of this thread (Matroska Splitter in Step #1).

You know, I thought I had all my ducks in a row, and clearly that wasn't the case, so let me first apologize for that.

I removed HAALI, saw that the install directory was removed, and reinstalled, and yes I see now the difference between the SS I posted and what my directory shows now.

Regarding Sin City, I am at work remoted into my PC at home, and I don't have any blu-ray playback software installed, nor the disc with me, so I'll have to check once I get home, since I don't want to guess (considering my track record :) ).

9 is moving along so far without a hitch, so thank you very much. Hopefully, once I provide you with what version of Sin City I have, you can bang out the issue I'm having with that. Thanks once again.

DGenerateKane
27th April 2010, 20:30
I had to redo all the Star Trek Blu-rays I did back in sept due to error. But, Disc 7 keeps failing. What's wrong?

- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00028.meta
- Can't open file: F:\FULL DISC\WORKFILES\00028.track_6656.DTS
[12:07:36] - Failed to build structure, aborted

jdobbs
27th April 2010, 21:34
I had to redo all the Star Trek Blu-rays I did back in sept due to error. But, Disc 7 keeps failing. What's wrong?

- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00028.meta
- Can't open file: F:\FULL DISC\WORKFILES\00028.track_6656.DTS
[12:07:36] - Failed to build structure, aborted The full log would help. Did you stop, change you audio settings, and resume? The error you are describing is exactly what would happen if you did. In the next release I think I'm going to put in a check to prevent that from being allowed.

chudm
27th April 2010, 23:09
jdobbs i keep having problems doing the lord of the rings blurays.. the only problem is converting dts hd to ac3... it wont happen!

[11:12:22] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:10:30] Video Encode complete
- [17:10:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00005__4353.AVS]
[17:10:31] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted


any suggestion to manually convert dts hd to ac3?

Kakashi Sensei
27th April 2010, 23:11
@JDobbs - I have a question and I hope you can answer, this has happened to me on a few versions(that I had tried), I thought it was a bad rip but maybe i'm wrong.

I have my decrypted Bluray Files on 1 drive, run BD-Rebuilder and the output goes to another physical drive, the output ends up being very blocky and pixelated, so I thought it was a bad rip. Just out of curiosity, i moved the source files (of a problem encode) to the same drive I was outputting to and the encode was flawless.

Is it not recommended to encode from 1 drive to the other? :thanks:

Bystander
27th April 2010, 23:18
@PeteWalker74

Since your post says "D1", I assume you are using the newer "Recut" version of "Sin City", correct?

I've had the same problem with *only* this disc - Sin City.

Log follows. Yes I have 60GB as target size as I am NOT shrinking to fit a BD25.[17:04:30] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: SIN_CITY_D1
- Input BD size: 26.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:03.685]
- Target BD size: 58.59 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:04:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:04:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00614]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00614]
- [17:23:46] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 18 min 58 sec
[18:12:01] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

PeteWalker74
27th April 2010, 23:39
@PeteWalker74

Since your post says "D1", I assume you are using the newer "Recut" version of "Sin City", correct?

Nowhere on the box does it say Recut, nor the disc, nor in any of the menus. Thank you once again for your help.

Kakashi Sensei
27th April 2010, 23:44
@Bystander - Something is screwy with your log, the input size is about half of your output size, it will be impossible for the outcome to be that big, what are your settings? Is this disk Pre-prossed at all?

jdobbs
28th April 2010, 00:00
jdobbs i keep having problems doing the lord of the rings blurays.. the only problem is converting dts hd to ac3... it wont happen!

[11:12:22] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:10:30] Video Encode complete
- [17:10:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00005__4353.AVS]
[17:10:31] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted


any suggestion to manually convert dts hd to ac3? I'm not going to respond anymore unless I see the entire log. I can't even tell what version you are using.

jdobbs
28th April 2010, 00:02
@JDobbs - I have a question and I hope you can answer, this has happened to me on a few versions(that I had tried), I thought it was a bad rip but maybe i'm wrong.

I have my decrypted Bluray Files on 1 drive, run BD-Rebuilder and the output goes to another physical drive, the output ends up being very blocky and pixelated, so I thought it was a bad rip. Just out of curiosity, i moved the source files (of a problem encode) to the same drive I was outputting to and the encode was flawless.

Is it not recommended to encode from 1 drive to the other? :thanks: I can think of no reason why one drive would be blocky and another not...

jdobbs
28th April 2010, 00:03
I've had the same problem with *only* this disc - Sin City.

Log follows. Yes I have 60GB as target size as I am NOT shrinking to fit a BD25.[17:04:30] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: SIN_CITY_D1
- Input BD size: 26.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:03.685]
- Target BD size: 58.59 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:04:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:04:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00614]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00614]
- [17:23:46] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053 1605
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Muxing time: 18 min 58 sec
[18:12:01] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
I had to order that disc. I should get it in a couple of days.

chudm
28th April 2010, 00:11
I'm not going to respond anymore unless I see the entire log. I can't even tell what version you are using.

was using the lastest version:

[Status]
LABEL=EL_SEÑOR_DE_LOS_ANILLOS_2_BD25
VERSION=v0.33.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=22384220160
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=22384220160
TARGET_SIZE=4089446400
REDUCTION=.182693271008285
RESIZE_1080=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
[00005]
AUDIO=01
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=4089446400
RATE=2297

Bystander
28th April 2010, 00:41
@Bystander - Something is screwy with your log, the input size is about half of your output size, it will be impossible for the outcome to be that big, what are your settings? Is this disk Pre-prossed at all?

It is not screwy. By selecting 60GB as the target size, I ensure that I get no video compression. I am creating ISOs and not physical discs.

PeteWalker74
28th April 2010, 03:52
I had to order that disc. I should get it in a couple of days.

I wonder if somehow only selecting certain audio/subs is throwing this off? As we speak I'm attempting to select all English audio streams and all English subs, just for shits and giggles. Might be pointless, but I have no other discs to backup at the moment. Thank you for taking the time to figure out what the issue is here. Just glad after my initial screw up, it seems like you agree that my config is solid perhaps.