BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only [Archive] - Page 474

Lathe

25th February 2016, 02:05

Yep. That's it. Except, of course, that AnyDVD doesn't create it on your hard drive... BD Rebuilder does.

Oh... (again...) So, I DON'T actually rip the Blu-ray with AnyDVD. I have it running in the background and use BDRB to import the actual Blu-ray from the BDMV folder on the disc itself while in the drive while AnyDVD is running, right?

So, if I DO understand this right, is it always better to 'rip' a disc to your HDD using BDRB this way rather than have AnyDVD do it?

Ch3vr0n

25th February 2016, 02:21

Anydvd can do its magic in the background yes. I'd recommend ripping first though. I don't like a constantly spinning disc. The PC can process the data faster than an optical drive can deliver the data to BDRB/helper tools, a harddrive doesn't have that problem.

jdobbs

25th February 2016, 02:31

So, if I DO understand this right, is it always better to 'rip' a disc to your HDD using BDRB this way rather than have AnyDVD do it?Not really. If you do this it is reauthoring the original disc -- that isn't something you necessarily want to always do. When you import there is a setting that limits the size of what's imported (default of 15 minutes), so importing doesn't always keep everything.

Just try it on a couple of discs and you'll see what I mean.

Lathe

25th February 2016, 04:58

Not really. If you do this it is reauthoring the original disc -- that isn't something you necessarily want to always do. When you import there is a setting that limits the size of what's imported (default of 15 minutes), so importing doesn't always keep everything.

Just try it on a couple of discs and you'll see what I mean.

Okay then. So, for this instance with the STAR TREK: TOS discs being so fragmented, you were suggesting to have BDRB reauthor the disc, I see. But yeah, I can see now that you have explained it, that you wouldn't necessarily want to do that as a rule. And yes Ch3vr0n I was thinking too that generally you would indeed want to work from the HDD instead of directly from the disc if at all possible.

Thanks all! I THINK I've got it now :D

HWK

25th February 2016, 17:36

does it keep track of the decryption as you use it?

i.e. I tried with a new disc yesterday (good dinosaur which worked) and another new one (fantastic 4 which didn't) today. I haven't tried with one I've ripped before.

I installed and I'm trying DVDFab Passkey (got free license when they were giving them away months ago)... I'll see how that goes. If I get a chance I'll re-enable AnyDVDHD and try a disc I ripped before.

There's always MAKEMKV and PassKey, I guess. I really feel bad for someone who bought a lifetime license for AnyDVD last week.

All software dies... it's just a matter of when (slightly edited line stolen from Paul Newman in "Hombre" -- just before he killed Richard Boone and got shot himself).

The bad thing is that the companies who make these discs (for which you paid good money) can limit you from playing it however you want (like adding it to your own streaming server for easy access). How is that right? Oh well... if you believe life is fair you're living in a fantasy anyway.

There's always the option of just not buying discs anymore -- and going 100% streaming. It would serve them right to be forced out of business for lack of sales.

It seems DVDfab has announced no AACS 2.0 decryption to crack the next-gen 4K UHD Blu-rays.
http://www.myce.com/news/dvdfab-we-will-not-decrypt-or-circumvent-aacs-2-0-in-the-days-to-come-78698/

Ch3vr0n

25th February 2016, 17:49

if not them, someone else will. Besides. 4K is overrated unless you have huge screen and afaik only an inbetweenstep to the 8k upcoming

HWK

25th February 2016, 17:55

if not them, someone else will. Besides. 4K is overrated unless you have huge screen and afaik only an inbetweenstep to the 8k upcoming

I hope so, but I think 4K will be niche for quite some time.

Glarioo

25th February 2016, 18:15

There is, Bert the Beaver from Elby's CloneBD :). Rip 1:1 with DVDFab (that's what i'll do), and use BDRB and/or CloneBD :)

Which version of DVDFab are you using for 1:1 rips?
DVDFab Blu-ray Copy ($60) or DVDFab Blu-ray Ripper ($60), or ...

Ch3vr0n

25th February 2016, 18:18

Only downloaded trial so far, think I checked out the copier. Haven't used it yet, only set the thing to 'bd50' on the left which should produce a 1:1 copy.

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Glarioo

25th February 2016, 18:25

DVDFab Announces no AACS 2.0 decryption to crack the next-gen 4K UHD Blu-rays.

http://www.myce.com/news/dvdfab-we-will-not-decrypt-or-circumvent-aacs-2-0-in-the-days-to-come-78698/

Glarioo

25th February 2016, 18:47

Only downloaded trial so far, think I checked out the copier. Haven't used it yet, only set the thing to 'bd50' on the left which should produce a 1:1 copy.

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Thanks!

Sharc

25th February 2016, 18:50

.... Besides. 4K is overrated unless you have huge screen and afaik only an inbetweenstep to the 8k upcoming
Video seems to take the same route as audio: New (bloated) formats pretending that it will make a huge difference for everybody. Sell, sell, sell .....

gonca

26th February 2016, 16:33

Ch3vr0n

26th February 2016, 17:42

Anydvd doesn't like it when that thing is installed too. As long as that works, i'm not going too

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jdobbs

26th February 2016, 18:09

You have to do one of two things. Give up on AnyDVD and find something else -- or hang on to it and hope they come back online. Based on what has been posted on their website and the forum, I suspect that the second choice isn't likely to happen. I have no idea if the first choice will succeed either -- as it's probably just a matter of time before any other alternative either get the same ax or becomes irrelevant by new technologies. IMHO, as long as consumers keep spending they're money on products that never actually become their property -- it will continue.

Ch3vr0n

26th February 2016, 19:06

I'm already in contact with DVDFab themselves about that :) I'm not too worried atm, i've got no use for 4K. As long as AnyDVD works, i'll use that as my primary ripper/decrypter. When it stops, i'll have DVDFab :)

DoctorM

26th February 2016, 19:47

4k may be close to a useless upgrade, but I'm told the HDR on the new discs is quite impressive.

jdobbs is quite right about buying discs that aren't ours, but the problem is if we stop buying they'll assume people don't want physical media. Then it's all crappy streams. No good answer there.

Video Dude

26th February 2016, 20:01

I just realized MakeMKV has a full disc mode. I never used the program before because I assumed it only made MKVs.

How well does MakeMKV decrypted discs work with BD-RB? I never had problems with AnyDVD, but it seems MakeMKV full disc mode could be a good free replacement to use with BD-RB?

kufo

26th February 2016, 20:26

The current circumstances will take affect anyway only in the near future,if there come new levels of protection mechanisms.
With the rippers still available BD Rebuilder has full functionality anyway. That should be the main thing currently.
There will pass at least 1 or 2 years, until the 4K film a serious medium at the film market.
When you consider that here in Germany the DVD rental in the same strong as the Blu-Ray, then it speaks for itselve.
Let's see what the future brings. :)

jdobbs

26th February 2016, 20:51

One other thing to be angry about today. On Sony BD/DVD smart players, there's a "Network Connection" procedure in which the player attempts to connect to some mystical Sony server before you can use it. Every few months the Sony server goes down, and you can't use Netflix or Amazon until they fix it. It's down right now.

One more example of buying something that you never really own. The three Sony BD players I currently use will be the last. Goodbye Sony, and hello Samsung or someone else.

Ch3vr0n

26th February 2016, 21:00

My Panasonic has yet to let me down for the first time. My old dmp-bd85 still plays every new BD I throw at it.

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raul124

27th February 2016, 00:31

One other thing to be angry about today. On Sony BD/DVD smart players, there's a "Network Connection" procedure in which the player attempts to connect to some mystical Sony server before you can use it. Every few months the Sony server goes down, and you can't use Netflix or Amazon until they fix it. It's down right now.

One more example of buying something that you never really own. The three Sony BD players I currently use will be the last. Goodbye Sony, and hello Samsung or someone else.

Don't know man but i have a Samsung BD-F5900 3D Blu-ray Player and about three month ago it stop playing all back-up to b25gb including my 3D, only plays
B5/9 and had to get a Sony BDP-S5200 3D Blu-ray Disc Player with Streaming & Wi-Fi and plays all so far..

MrVideo

27th February 2016, 03:36

I've always hoped someone else would write one -- because I'm too lazy.

The problem with someone else writing such a manual is that you are the only one, I suspect, that knows the program inside and out. You are the only one that can write a manual covering ALL of the capabilities.

MrVideo

27th February 2016, 03:49

Don't know man but i have a Samsung BD-F5900 3D Blu-ray Player and about three month ago it stop playing all back-up to b25gb including my 3D

My BD-C6800 (pre Cinavia) and BD-H5900 (w/ Cinavia :mad: ) both play backed up discs.

Blurayhd

27th February 2016, 08:47

My BD-C6800 (pre Cinavia) and BD-H5900 (w/ Cinavia :mad: ) both play backed up discs.

I read on DVdfab website and seems they last release can remove Cinavia, what about it?

MrVideo

27th February 2016, 09:18

I read on DVdfab website and seems they last release can remove Cinavia, what about it?

You need to go on their forum and read ALL of the info regarding Cinavia removal.

In a nutshell, to do so requires a separate license. There is a limited number of discs that they currently can remove Cinavia. It only works via the original media (1:1 ISO backups might work). It only works when creating movie only backups. It does not do full disc backups.

In other words, at this point in time it is extremely limited.

DoctorM

27th February 2016, 21:07

I've found the best answer for Cinavia is just to grab the DVD and sync the audio. Sure the bitrate is lower, but the 'fixes' lower the quality anyway.

One other thing to be angry about today. On Sony BD/DVD smart players, there's a "Network Connection" procedure in which the player attempts to connect to some mystical Sony server before you can use it. Every few months the Sony server goes down, and you can't use Netflix or Amazon until they fix it. It's down right now.

One more example of buying something that you never really own. The three Sony BD players I currently use will be the last. Goodbye Sony, and hello Samsung or someone else.

Do you have BD Live turned on or something? My Sony player is a few years old (2012) and it has never needed an internet connection to work.

jdobbs

28th February 2016, 00:01

I've found the best answer for Cinavia is just to grab the DVD and sync the audio. Sure the bitrate is lower, but the 'fixes' lower the quality anyway.I do the same.Do you have BD Live turned on or something? My Sony player is a few years old (2012) and it has never needed an internet connection to work.The player works -- but Netflix and Amazon (or any other network streaming service) won't. It has happened 3 times to me. Each time it only lasts an hour or two, and the Sony server eventually comes back up. Meanwhile my network is working fine, even the BD player says the local connection is good. It's their server that goes down. I have three Sony players -- and when it happens all three concurrently fail.

The thing that irks me is that they have created a device that relies their server to continue working. If you google it, you'll see it is a common occurrence. It's apparently also common on the Playstation Network.

I've had enough. I will never buy a Sony player again.

kufo

28th February 2016, 00:17

Would it be possible that the manual is written by several useres? In fact each one uses a different method to create his perfect dic or file. Perhaps this could show diffrent settings and new useres could find a matching one that works for them. jdobbs will have to take a look at the descriptions before they are shown as good. Tis is much easier than writing the whole stuff by one guy.

What do you think?

CV91913

28th February 2016, 00:31

I've found the best answer for Cinavia is just to grab the DVD and sync the audio. Sure the bitrate is lower, but the 'fixes' lower the quality anyway.

Can you do this with a BD and, if so, what do you use to do it?

DoctorM

28th February 2016, 01:34

Can you do this with a BD and, if so, what do you use to do it?

I think I should defer to jdobbs on this. I load the audio and video into a video editing program to confirm sync first and determine if a delay is needed, then create a temporary BD mux manually.

I'm sure there's an easier way. Maybe pausing a BDRB encoding and swapping the audio file?

Ch3vr0n

28th February 2016, 02:59

Jdobbs, forgive me for going OT on this, but many of us here use Anydvd to decrypt in order to be able to use BDRB to backup our purchased discs.

To all those users i'd say. check out the sticky in the General Chat section on the slysoft forums. Things aint over till the fat lady sings! Show your love/support!

MrVideo

28th February 2016, 05:39

I load the audio and video into a video editing program to confirm sync first and determine if a delay is needed, then create a temporary BD mux manually.

My last step is to use tsMuxer to mux the BD video and DVD audio into a BD format ISO.

Unfortunately, Universal is now putting Cinavia onto their DVD releases as well, stopping us from using the DVD audio with the BD video.

DoctorM

28th February 2016, 05:54

I was just reading this completely unrelated article: https://torrentfreak.com/file-sharing-sites-paypal-account-returns-after-eff-intervention-160227/ and it occurred to me that JD's PayPal account being closed could be just the sort of thing the EFF might want to take on.

Lathe

29th February 2016, 06:28

One other thing to be angry about today. On Sony BD/DVD smart players, there's a "Network Connection" procedure in which the player attempts to connect to some mystical Sony server before you can use it. Every few months the Sony server goes down, and you can't use Netflix or Amazon until they fix it. It's down right now.

One more example of buying something that you never really own. The three Sony BD players I currently use will be the last. Goodbye Sony, and hello Samsung or someone else.

OPPO :)

They are beholden to no one...

FWIW, my 5 year old BD-83 is pre-cinavia.

Lathe

29th February 2016, 06:38

Just a quick comment (yeah, like I've EVER made a 'brief' comment in my life... :o ) about extracting the Blu-ray the way you suggested JD. First, I kind of goofed and merely set it to BD50 and 'Force No Encode', but I ended up with basically the same disc arrangement with the STAR TREK: TNG disc as when I ripped it with AnyDVD.

So, then I remembered you saying to import it. So, with AnyDVD running in the background I did import the Blu-ray itself. And, lo and behold when BDRB prompted me with the playlist, I saw a nice, neat, SHORT list of 15 files instead of like 172. Very nice! It clearly showed the 4 or 5 episodes at 8 Gigs or so, and the few Xtras. Wow, was that ever nicer than seeing the messy folder that ripping the Blu-ray directly with AnyDVD produced. Also, it may have been my imagination, but I do think that using BDRB to import the full Blu-ray was actually faster than when I did it with AnyDVD.

Thanks VERY much for the suggestion to do that! I will probably do that now with all my discs when just ripping.

Lathe

1st March 2016, 22:06

Since I am not very conversant with using the import function for television episodes, I just NOW noticed with disc 5 of one of the TNG seasons that as it shows me the import titles I can indeed rename them.

However, I hadn't done this on discs 2-4 (disc one I still was using the original full disc structure from the original disc) So, I was wondering, even after running the resultant imports through BDRB and reducing the size from the original 45 Gigs or so to a single layer BD25 size, is there any way I can go back to these 'finished' discs and somehow edit the episode titles?

Should I just re-import discs 2-4 and then rename the episodes? Probably so, I'm guessing.

Thanks!

gonca

1st March 2016, 22:39

Should I just re-import discs 2-4 and then rename the episodes? Probably so, I'm guessing.

Thanks!

just re-import and rename the episodes

jdobbs

1st March 2016, 22:59

Sharc

1st March 2016, 23:56

Not a bug in BD-RB, just for information:
Since recently I experienced a number of mysterious and random "Encode failed. Aborting" cases. I am normally using DGdecNV as frame server and I noticed that the index file .dgi did not get created. Apparently the indexing process did not start for some reason.
Eventually I found that DGindexNV.exe does sometimes not start, but fails silently instead. In Donald's forum I received the hint that a virus scanner could be the root cause, and indeed, disabling the real-time scanner of Windows Defender (W10) seems to have solved the issue.
I thought I would post this, as same or similar might be the cause for mysterious "Encode failed. Aborting" messages of BD-RB.

Rich86

2nd March 2016, 00:03

One other thing to be angry about today. On Sony BD/DVD smart players, there's a "Network Connection" procedure in which the player attempts to connect to some mystical Sony server before you can use it.

The issue here is that streaming apps on these devices (from all manufacturers from what I can tell) go through the device manufacturer to get at whatever service it provided. My Panasonic player needed a firmware update to re-establish streaming & connect to the Viera Cast server/site. My Sony TV has access to whatever streaming services Sony contracted for with their TV.

DVDs & BDs are always advertised as "OWN this on Tuesday" - so I "own" it. That doesn't give me the right to go into business selling copyrighted material, but I believe I can pretty much do whatever I want with this disc. DMCA type laws forbid circumventing digital copy protection on commercially sold media, and that is what lawyers representing folks like AACS point to when trying to kill off decryption type programs. I cannot imagine what excuse anyone used to convince Paypal to shut off JDobbs ability to accept money, since there is nothing in BDRB that decrypts anything. If beging able to read and modify unprotected "copyrighted" material is the excuse, then they should be going after all companies who provide that ability with images, words, music, etc?

jdobbs

2nd March 2016, 00:07

Rich86

2nd March 2016, 00:11

OPPO :)

They are beholden to no one...

FWIW, my 5 year old BD-83 is pre-cinavia.

Unfortunately 8x & 9x Oppo's do not play nice with BDs that utilize complex seamless branching & Dolby TrueHD (or Atmos) - mostly Lionsgate titles, as I recall.
And Oppo is forced to comply with BD Assoc. requirements like everyone else if they expect to sell blu-ray players.
All my Panasonic & Sony players are pre-cinavia and continue to work just fine.

raul124

2nd March 2016, 00:58

The red fox is back!!!

MrVideo

2nd March 2016, 01:24

jdobbs

2nd March 2016, 03:49

I have a dumb question. Why would you want to rename Star Trek (any series) episode titles?If you are importing or re-authoring you are given default titles that are fairly meaningless (basic source disc/time text). So in the title editor you can replace those with actual text that matches that used officially for the episode -- for example you can get them from Wikipedia's episode indexes or the disc cover. The titles are used in the newly create menus, and are also used when you create an ALTERNATE output to MKV or MP4.

manolito

2nd March 2016, 03:56

I already asked a while ago:
Still not endorsing AviSynth 2.60? A lot of other software now requires it, and switching between different versions (while possible) is just annoying.

Cheers
manolito

Lathe

2nd March 2016, 06:16

You can import and reimport as many times as you want, since there is no reencoding involved in the process there also is no quality loss.

In fact you can import several discs individually, and then put them all in a folder together (as subfolders) and import that folder to combine previously imported discs.

I personally use import a lot. I have a lot of series discs on DVD that I've bought over the years. I like to import them and put them on a single 50GB BD reencoded to AVC. The ones that have half-hour shows can even fit an entire season on a single-layer BD.

Just as an aside, I went to the theater today and saw "The Lady in the Van". Great writing, and a fantastic performance by Dame Maggie Smith. Excellent. I really do love the movies...

Yeah, I kinda thought so... Very nice to be able to do that. I also should take some of my rarer DVD sets and back them up like you do (BTW, I found out just the other day that my Blu-ray set of The Prisoner, which was one of my very first purchases in the Blu-ray format and I bought for about $20 is now going for $200! DAMN!) I backed up that puppy faster than you can say Amiga Future! :D

Yes, my older friend wants to go see 'THE VAN' Not normally my type of film, but I have a feeling that this one with her in it is likely very well done.

Thanks! (Thanks to you too Gonca!)

Lathe

2nd March 2016, 06:21

Unfortunately 8x & 9x Oppo's do not play nice with BDs that utilize complex seamless branching & Dolby TrueHD (or Atmos) - mostly Lionsgate titles, as I recall.
And Oppo is forced to comply with BD Assoc. requirements like everyone else if they expect to sell blu-ray players.
All my Panasonic & Sony players are pre-cinaiva and continue to work just fine.

Hmmm, that is very interesting. I've never had any trouble at all with TrueHD whatsoever. I don't think I've watched too many titles though with seamless branching, so I don't remember if I had any trouble with that. As far as I can say, and I've played probably hundreds of Blu-ray titles on it (including many series) in the last 5 years, I haven't had any trouble with those things that I can remember. Besides, I would expect OPPO, who are VERY conscientious, to keep their players current with updates.

But, if that indeed IS the case, that is good to know... I frigg'n LOVE mine though! ;)